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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:40,000 I think we should move. 2 00:00:40,001 --> 00:00:41,560 I think we should move. 3 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:44,520 I'm not leaving this house! I want to be around life, not death. 4 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:47,520 Not death, every single minute of the day. 5 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:48,000 Guilty. He can't be... 6 00:00:48,001 --> 00:00:49,240 Guilty. He can't be... 7 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:51,400 The case against you is a travesty of justice. 8 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:54,800 The entire prosecution case rested on this. 9 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:55,999 The tracks on the fragment are of copper, 10 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:57,720 The tracks on the fragment are of copper, 11 00:00:57,760 --> 00:00:59,880 covered by a layer of pure tin. 12 00:00:59,920 --> 00:01:02,080 What is this? No, this is not the same fragment. 13 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:03,999 And I will do everything in my power to help you. 14 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:04,880 And I will do everything in my power to help you. 15 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:07,240 I've just heard Megrahi is being granted a second appeal. 16 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:09,960 But there's nothing in here that helps us discover what did happen. 17 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:11,280 Was Megrahi framed? 18 00:01:11,320 --> 00:01:12,000 Whatever it is, they want to keep it buried. 19 00:01:12,001 --> 00:01:13,096 Whatever it is, they want to keep it buried. 20 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:14,880 I'm so sorry, but it's prostate cancer. 21 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:16,480 I don't want to die here, Jim. 22 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:17,600 I don't want that either. 23 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:19,999 There's a good possibility that you're released 24 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:20,040 There's a good possibility that you're released 25 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:23,640 on compassionate grounds and you can keep your appeal. 26 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:26,160 I will never give up my appeal. 27 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:28,000 My name will be cleared, 28 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:30,400 and you will go on and find out who really did this. 29 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:12,440 Oh. 30 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:20,960 You're going to miss us. 31 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:23,840 Mmm... 32 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:26,320 Yes, of course. 33 00:02:30,920 --> 00:02:31,999 It's for you. 34 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:33,000 It's for you. 35 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:41,320 Britain's biggest mass murderer is now a free man, 36 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:43,999 shown mercy by Scotland's Justice Secretary. 37 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:44,160 Shown mercy by Scotland's Justice Secretary. 38 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:48,720 Mister al-Megrahi now faces a sentence imposed by a higher power. 39 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:50,840 Justice Secretary knew his decision 40 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:51,999 would be welcomed and reviled. 41 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:52,320 Would be welcomed and reviled. 42 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:54,160 The FBI director sent a letter 43 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:56,560 to Scotland's justice officials blasting their decision 44 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:57,680 to release Abdelbaset... 45 00:03:57,720 --> 00:03:59,880 The decision gives comfort to terrorists 46 00:03:59,920 --> 00:03:59,998 around the world... 47 00:03:59,999 --> 00:04:00,920 around the world... 48 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:03,120 This man was convicted of murdering 270 people. 49 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:04,960 He showed no compassion to them. 50 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,999 Served only eight years, and that works out at about two weeks 51 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:08,520 Served only eight years, and that works out at about two weeks 52 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:10,320 for every one of the lives he took. 53 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:12,160 Liberty comes at a price. 54 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:15,320 Expected to die within months, he will do so a guilty man. 55 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:16,000 Downing Street released a letter written by 56 00:04:16,001 --> 00:04:17,656 Downing Street released a letter written by 57 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:19,880 Prime Minister Gordon Brown, asking the Libyan leader 58 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:21,920 to handle Megrahi's arrival with sensitivity. 59 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:23,999 Requested that the Libyan authorities 60 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:24,160 Requested that the Libyan authorities 61 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:26,400 keep Megrahi's return low-key. It was anything but. 62 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:28,840 Alongside Megrahi was Colonel Gaddafi's son, 63 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:30,920 Saif al-Islam. 64 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:44,280 Hello, Jim Swire. 65 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:46,800 Jim, Lance Ferguson from the Mirror. 66 00:04:46,840 --> 00:04:47,999 You've got the TV on, right? 67 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:48,560 You've got the TV on, right? 68 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:50,640 Yes. How are you feeling right now? 69 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:53,360 You campaigned for Megrahi to go home, 70 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:54,960 and this is how he thanks you. 71 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:56,000 Have you been played, Jim? 72 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:56,440 Have you been played, Jim? 73 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:59,440 Has Megrahi killed your search for justice stone dead? 74 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:32,440 Jim, how long have you been waiting? 75 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:35,520 A couple of hours. I couldn't reach you on your phone. 76 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:38,840 We've been in meetings all day, and... 77 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:42,360 Roddy's tied up in another case. 78 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:46,240 Come through. 79 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:51,680 I don't know why he abandoned his appeal. 80 00:05:52,840 --> 00:05:54,320 We fought so hard for him. 81 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:56,920 Why did he do it? 82 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:00,000 The Libyans requested Megrahi's release 83 00:06:00,001 --> 00:06:02,720 The Libyans requested Megrahi's release 84 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:05,600 under a prisoner transfer agreement between Libya and the UK, 85 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:07,999 but, of course, he was convicted in a Scottish court, 86 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:08,440 but, of course, he was convicted in a Scottish court, 87 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:11,440 and under Scottish law, a prisoner transfer cannot be granted 88 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:14,000 if there's an ongoing appeal, which obviously there was. 89 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:15,800 That still left compassionate release, 90 00:06:15,840 --> 00:06:16,000 which Megrahi met the criteria for. 91 00:06:16,001 --> 00:06:17,760 Which Megrahi met the criteria for. 92 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:19,880 Terminally ill, no more than three months to live. 93 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:21,960 And, crucially, he didn't need to drop his appeal. 94 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:23,999 The case would have still gone to the appeal court, 95 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:24,080 The case would have still gone to the appeal court, 96 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:26,256 even if he was in Libya. Even if he were to die in Libya. 97 00:06:26,280 --> 00:06:28,200 Well, that's what he promised me would happen. 98 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:30,280 His appeal would go on no matter where he was. 99 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:31,999 Then, at the eleventh hour, he seems to have changed his mind. 100 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:34,440 Then, at the eleventh hour, he seems to have changed his mind. 101 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:39,120 When he told us, Roddy was devastated. 102 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:40,000 And it all happened so quickly. 103 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:40,960 And it all happened so quickly. 104 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,760 He was smuggled out of the country before anyone could notice. 105 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:47,440 Did he leave anything for me? 106 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:50,200 A message, letter? 107 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:52,440 Nothing. 108 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:55,999 I only have, um, his address and telephone number in Tripoli. 109 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:58,400 I only have, um, his address and telephone number in Tripoli. 110 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:00,600 May I have it? 111 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:09,920 I mean, surely... his hand must have been forced. 112 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:14,680 We may never find out. 113 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:18,080 And maybe that's for the best. 114 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:27,080 Thank you, John. 115 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:52,000 Reportedly living in the family villa 116 00:07:52,001 --> 00:07:53,736 Reportedly living in the family villa 117 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:55,600 in an upmarket area of Tripoli, 118 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:59,840 Abdelbaset al-Megrahi, the convicted Lockerbie bomber, 119 00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:00,000 is still alive after nine months. 120 00:08:00,001 --> 00:08:01,840 Is still alive after nine months. 121 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:04,560 Very much alive, and very much free, 122 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:07,040 living in the lap of luxury, by all accounts. 123 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:08,000 He only had three months to live, 124 00:08:08,001 --> 00:08:09,136 He only had three months to live, 125 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:11,240 may actually live another ten years. 126 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:13,120 The medical evidence seems to be, 127 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:15,999 when you look at it closely, highly suspect. 128 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:16,320 When you look at it closely, highly suspect. 129 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:19,000 Nearly one year on, Mr al-Megrahi is still alive. 130 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:20,520 Correct. 131 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:21,960 Have you been in contact with him? 132 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:23,999 I've tried, but I've been unable to reach him. 133 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:24,920 I've tried, but I've been unable to reach him. 134 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:28,240 Dr Swire, has al-Megrahi got away with it? 135 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:31,999 A cancer prognosis, as any doctor knows, 136 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:33,016 A cancer prognosis, as any doctor knows, 137 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:34,760 is an inexact science. Yes. 138 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:38,760 And the inference that he is somehow "getting away with it," 139 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:39,999 frankly, I find that offensive. 140 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:41,240 Frankly, I find that offensive. 141 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:43,720 Why else would he drop his appeal? 142 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:46,680 I, and many other members of the UK Families group, 143 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:47,999 believe that the authorities pushed Mr al-Megrahi to drop his appeal 144 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:49,696 believe that the authorities pushed Mr al-Megrahi to drop his appeal 145 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:52,360 so that they would never be held to account 146 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:54,600 for the false conviction of an innocent man. 147 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:55,999 And that is why I consider Mr al-Megrahi 148 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:57,176 And that is why I consider Mr al-Megrahi 149 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,800 to be the 271st victim of Lockerbie. 150 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:03,999 You realise how many people will find that offensive? 151 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:06,080 You realise how many people will find that offensive? 152 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:10,080 The purpose is not to offend people. The purpose is to find the truth. 153 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:17,960 Thank you. 154 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:31,480 Where are you going? Out. 155 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:34,920 Where? God knows. I just need some air. 156 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:39,240 I wish sometimes you'd think about us 157 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:41,120 before you open your mouth to them. 158 00:10:02,560 --> 00:10:05,440 Alright. Alright, alright. 159 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:11,000 Murray. 160 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:12,600 Long time no see, Jim. 161 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:15,600 I thought you'd given up on us. 162 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:20,120 Well, this story's got a funny way of pulling me back in. 163 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:23,160 Well... 164 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:28,520 Jane is over at Cathy's. She, um... 165 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:31,999 She spends quite a bit of time there with the grandkids. 166 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:33,696 She spends quite a bit of time there with the grandkids. 167 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:34,840 Right. 168 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:38,080 Order tends to break down. 169 00:10:39,680 --> 00:10:40,000 Ah, no milk. Sorry. 170 00:10:40,001 --> 00:10:42,680 Ah, no milk. Sorry. 171 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:44,960 Mmm. 172 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:50,400 You look exhausted. 173 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:56,000 Have you been following the WikiLeaks story? 174 00:10:56,001 --> 00:10:57,880 Have you been following the WikiLeaks story? 175 00:10:57,920 --> 00:10:59,520 Uh... No, not really. 176 00:10:59,560 --> 00:11:02,320 It's a media organisation that's been leaking secret 177 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:03,999 and classified information online. 178 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:04,240 And classified information online. 179 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:06,240 It's linked to all sorts of stuff. 180 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:10,440 Assassinations in Somalia, government corruption in Kenya, 181 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:11,960 Guantanamo Bay, 182 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:15,240 and thousands upon thousands of US embassy cables. 183 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:17,720 Well, we've read a few of those. 184 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:19,999 Everything that the powers that be don't want us to see. 185 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:21,096 Everything that the powers that be don't want us to see. 186 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:22,360 And I found something. 187 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:24,720 Buried amongst it all. 188 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:27,120 About Megrahi. 189 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:33,920 The Libyans made a direct threat to the UK. 190 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:36,000 What do you mean, "threat"? 191 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:36,760 What do you mean, "threat"? 192 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:40,320 They wanted Megrahi out. Home. ASAP. 193 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:42,040 If he died in prison here, 194 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:43,999 then all trade, political ties, would be ceased immediately. 195 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:46,360 Then all trade, political ties, would be ceased immediately. 196 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:48,480 Trade with Libya means only one thing. 197 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:49,520 Oil. 198 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:51,999 You remember when Tony Blair met Gaddafi in 2004? 199 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:53,920 You remember when Tony Blair met Gaddafi in 2004? 200 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:56,560 The "Deal in the Desert"? Aye? 201 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:59,999 Well, they met again in 2007, and BP signed a £90million deal. 202 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:02,016 Well, they met again in 2007, and BP signed a £90million deal. 203 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:05,040 And in that second meeting, Blair and Gaddafi 204 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:07,960 signed a prisoner transfer agreement. 205 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,520 And I reckon that was only ever about one man. 206 00:12:10,560 --> 00:12:11,720 Megrahi. 207 00:12:12,560 --> 00:12:15,999 Yeah. The British wanted into those oil fields desperately, 208 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:16,520 Yeah. The British wanted into those oil fields desperately, 209 00:12:16,560 --> 00:12:19,520 and Gaddafi suddenly is threatening to rip it all up. 210 00:12:19,560 --> 00:12:21,800 They had no choice but to sign. 211 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:23,920 So do you think the Labour government put pressure 212 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:24,000 on the Scottish government to release him? 213 00:12:24,001 --> 00:12:25,960 On the Scottish government to release him? 214 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:28,440 Well, they claim they didn't, but it's on record. 215 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:31,999 Kenny MacAskill took phone calls from Jack Straw, 216 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:32,600 Kenny MacAskill took phone calls from Jack Straw, 217 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:36,560 Lord Chancellor and Justice Minister at the time. 218 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:39,320 And after that, MacAskill met with Megrahi 219 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:40,000 and his Libyan lawyers in private. 220 00:12:40,001 --> 00:12:41,640 And his Libyan lawyers in private. 221 00:12:41,680 --> 00:12:43,360 It caused an outrage at the time. 222 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:46,440 Now, we don't know what was said in those meetings, 223 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:47,999 but what we do know is we've got two sides, 224 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:50,880 but what we do know is we've got two sides, 225 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:52,960 both wanting what the other had. 226 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:55,999 With Megrahi at the centre of it, all reduced to a political pawn. 227 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:57,776 With Megrahi at the centre of it, all reduced to a political pawn. 228 00:12:57,800 --> 00:12:58,800 Aye. 229 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:02,200 Makes you wonder what was behind him dropping his appeal. 230 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:09,240 The former Labour government has been accused 231 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:10,800 of organised hypocrisy. 232 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:11,999 The Americans, they wanted Megrahi to die in prison, 233 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:13,616 The Americans, they wanted Megrahi to die in prison, 234 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:17,000 but saying privately to the Libyans that they wanted him released. 235 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:19,280 I'd like to know if there was some kind of 236 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:20,000 illicit deal here. There was a story in many of the newspapers 237 00:13:20,001 --> 00:13:22,256 illicit deal here. There was a story in many of the newspapers 238 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:25,200 that this was done particularly by the British government 239 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:27,999 in return for getting an oil contract. That would be despicable. 240 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:28,200 In return for getting an oil contract. That would be despicable. 241 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:30,760 We need to know what this oil deal was all about 242 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:33,680 and whether there was a compromise to the judicial system 243 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:34,920 for commercial gain. 244 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:35,999 Some of your citizens believe that it was the result 245 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:37,616 Some of your citizens believe that it was the result 246 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:39,296 of a deal, and that deal had to do with oil. 247 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:42,560 There was no deal. I can give you an absolute, unconditional assurance... 248 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:43,999 The so-called Arab Spring appears to be spreading 249 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:44,880 The so-called Arab Spring appears to be spreading 250 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:47,720 to Libya today, as hundreds of anti-government protesters 251 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:50,920 have clashed with police in Libya's second city, Benghazi. 252 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:51,999 Gaddafi, go away. We don't want you. Neither you or your family. 253 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:54,960 Gaddafi, go away. We don't want you. Neither you or your family. 254 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:56,760 Colonel Gaddafi is crazy. 255 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:59,120 They're worried he will kill and kill and kill 256 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:00,000 just to save his regime. 257 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:00,520 Just to save his regime. 258 00:14:00,560 --> 00:14:03,000 This is not an Egyptian-style protest movement. 259 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:04,320 This is a war for Libya. 260 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:07,160 And the people of Libya have made themselves clear. 261 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:08,000 It is time for Gaddafi to go. 262 00:14:08,001 --> 00:14:09,016 It is time for Gaddafi to go. 263 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:11,800 The rebel-held east of Libya had been staring at defeat, 264 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:13,640 but now they're tasting victory. 265 00:14:13,680 --> 00:14:15,680 A degree of chaos is settling in here. 266 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:16,000 There are simply too many gunmen and no central authority. 267 00:14:16,001 --> 00:14:19,080 There are simply too many gunmen and no central authority. 268 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:21,200 Gaddafi, from somewhere in hiding, 269 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:22,680 is vowing to fight to the death. 270 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:26,040 I think today is a day to remember 271 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:28,040 all of Colonel Gaddafi's victims. 272 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:31,240 To Yvonne Fletcher, and obviously those who died 273 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:32,000 in connection with the Pan Am flight over Lockerbie... 274 00:14:32,001 --> 00:14:33,936 in connection with the Pan Am flight over Lockerbie... 275 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:36,280 With the fall of Gaddafi, the darkest secrets 276 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:38,000 of his regime are beginning to surface. 277 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:39,999 This is confirmation, now that Colonel Gaddafi 278 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:40,360 This is confirmation, now that Colonel Gaddafi 279 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:43,560 personally ordered the bombing of Pan Am Flight 103. 280 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:46,760 Libya's ex-foreign minister reportedly telling a newspaper 281 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:47,999 that Gaddafi gave the order to Abdelbaset al-Megrahi. 282 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:49,736 That Gaddafi gave the order to Abdelbaset al-Megrahi. 283 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:51,800 This brings into question 284 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:54,240 the decision to approve Megrahi's release. 285 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:05,880 Baset? 286 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:08,520 Baset, it's Jim Swire. 287 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:11,999 No, please speak English. Please speak English. 288 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:13,336 No, please speak English. Please speak English. 289 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:16,360 I need to know what's going on. 290 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:19,640 Baset, I need to know. Please tell me why- 291 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:37,640 Jim? 292 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:45,880 Jim? 293 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:29,120 Jim? 294 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:34,000 Jim! 295 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:47,999 Oh, thank God. Thank God. 296 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:49,760 Oh, thank God. Thank God. 297 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:53,640 Jim. 298 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:56,000 What are you doing here? 299 00:16:56,001 --> 00:16:57,520 What are you doing here? 300 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:00,440 You're freezing. 301 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:03,640 I was so sure. 302 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:09,960 I thought Baset was innocent, but... 303 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:12,000 ..I don't know anymore. 304 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:13,000 ..I don't know anymore. 305 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:16,800 Don't know what to believe. 306 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:23,040 And if I don't know that, if I don't know... 307 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:26,280 ..what I believe, then... 308 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:29,920 What will I do? 309 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:34,880 That's 20 years of my life wasted. 310 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:38,280 With no one to blame but myself. 311 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:45,760 You have to go. 312 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:48,520 To Libya. 313 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:55,280 I don't even know if he's alive or dead. 314 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:58,440 I don't want you to, but it's the only way you'll find out. 315 00:18:00,120 --> 00:18:02,440 You have to find him and you have to ask him. 316 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:39,800 Taxi? 317 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:51,440 Where do you want to go? 318 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:58,120 Will you take me here? 319 00:19:02,120 --> 00:19:03,999 It's too dangerous. I have money. 320 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:05,280 It's too dangerous. I have money. 321 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:06,720 How much do you need? 322 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:10,200 Yalla. Get in. 323 00:19:29,360 --> 00:19:30,440 Who are they? 324 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:33,360 Militia. 325 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:35,160 Many, many militia everywhere. 326 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:03,640 Thank you. 327 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:06,400 Ah, add it to my tip. 328 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:05,720 Uh, I'm Jim Swire. 329 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:07,320 Jim Swire. I'm from England. 330 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:09,760 I've come to see Baset. 331 00:21:10,360 --> 00:21:11,999 I'm here to see Baset. 332 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:13,560 I'm here to see Baset. 333 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:16,440 I'm here to see Baset. 334 00:21:21,120 --> 00:21:22,560 Bye-bye. 335 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:26,200 Baset! 336 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:27,999 Baset! 337 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:28,080 Baset! 338 00:21:28,120 --> 00:21:29,720 Alright! 339 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:31,920 Baset! It's Jim! 340 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:35,999 It's Jim. 341 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:37,040 It's Jim. 342 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:54,760 Thank you. 343 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:05,000 Ghada. It's just me. 344 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:07,920 I promise you, I came alone. 345 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:11,160 I needed to see him, so I came. 346 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:15,999 Then you're crazy. 347 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:17,000 Then you're crazy. 348 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:18,920 Yes, probably. 349 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:21,960 Is he here? 350 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:34,600 Come with us. 351 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:23,880 You shouldn't have come. 352 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:25,840 I had to. 353 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:28,000 Libya is a dangerous country. You could be killed. 354 00:23:28,001 --> 00:23:30,080 Libya is a dangerous country. You could be killed. 355 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:32,360 I realise that. 356 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:36,000 Come. 357 00:23:40,120 --> 00:23:41,160 Please. 358 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:49,480 I know why you have come. 359 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:51,999 It was not to inquire after my health. 360 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:52,960 It was not to inquire after my health. 361 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:54,960 I phoned. I wrote letters. 362 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:57,600 I did not reply. 363 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:02,760 I saw this as a friendship. 364 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:07,040 It is friendship. 365 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:09,240 It is. 366 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:12,680 I gave you my word. 367 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:15,280 I broke my word. 368 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:18,520 Forgive me. 369 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:23,999 I know that dropping my appeal means you're still not released from this. 370 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:25,696 I know that dropping my appeal means you're still not released from this. 371 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:26,960 Why did you? 372 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:29,400 I had no choice. 373 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:31,999 I was allowed only to return home to my family to die here. 374 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:35,760 I was allowed only to return home to my family to die here. 375 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:38,200 Under one condition. 376 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:41,880 I still remain guilty. 377 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:47,999 I am only a tiny player in a... 378 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:49,240 I am only a tiny player in a... 379 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:51,120 ..far greater game. 380 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,800 They don't care about my innocence. 381 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:55,999 They never have. 382 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:57,000 They never have. 383 00:24:57,360 --> 00:25:00,240 I am no use to anyone as an innocent man. 384 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:06,600 Only to you. 385 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:12,000 But I am tired now. 386 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:13,000 But I am tired now. 387 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:17,760 And I am dying. 388 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:20,000 I cannot take them on. I cannot prove them wrong. 389 00:25:20,001 --> 00:25:24,360 I cannot take them on. I cannot prove them wrong. 390 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:27,840 But you... 391 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:30,720 You can keep fighting. 392 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:58,480 We have worked on this together, myself, Ghada, and John Ashton. 393 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:00,000 We had to keep it secret, 394 00:26:00,001 --> 00:26:01,760 We had to keep it secret, 395 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,560 for fear of censorship. 396 00:26:08,360 --> 00:26:10,800 John will publish the findings soon. 397 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:13,360 Please, Jim. Open, open. 398 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:22,760 PT/35b. 399 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:26,240 The timer fragment. 400 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,720 The key piece of evidence against my father. 401 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:31,999 The head of the FBI investigation, Richard Marquis, 402 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:32,720 The head of the FBI investigation, Richard Marquis, 403 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:36,240 said that without it, there would not have been an indictment. 404 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:39,160 Without it, there is no case against my father. 405 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:44,200 But John Ashton met the technician who built the MEBO timer boards. 406 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,400 From the timers that were supplied to Libya. 407 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:47,999 Mmm. He told him that the circuitry on MEBO boards was coated 408 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,480 Mmm. He told him that the circuitry on MEBO boards was coated 409 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:54,520 with an alloy of 70% tin and 30% lead. 410 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:56,000 That is how he always constructed them. 411 00:26:56,001 --> 00:26:57,521 That is how he always constructed them. 412 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:02,120 But PT/35b was coated with pure tin, 413 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:03,999 no lead whatsoever. 414 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:04,640 No lead whatsoever. 415 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,040 The fragment is not from a MEBO board. 416 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,120 It was not sold to Libya. 417 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:12,000 But Feraday in court, the forensics expert, 418 00:27:12,001 --> 00:27:15,480 But Feraday in court, the forensics expert, 419 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:19,080 he swore that the timer fragment was similar in all respects... 420 00:27:19,120 --> 00:27:20,000 ..to the sample boards obtained from MEBO. 421 00:27:20,001 --> 00:27:21,641 ..to the sample boards obtained from MEBO. 422 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:22,920 Feraday's notes. 423 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:26,440 The page is dated August 1991, 424 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:27,999 four months before his forensic report. 425 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:29,520 Four months before his forensic report. 426 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:34,920 He records that the metallic coating on the fragment is pure tin. 427 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:35,999 But here, on this page, he also states 428 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:37,880 But here, on this page, he also states 429 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:41,480 that the metallic coating on the sample board itself was... 430 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:43,999 You see? You see what he's written? 431 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:45,360 You see? You see what he's written? 432 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:50,400 In other notes, he even speculated why there could be discrepancies. 433 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:52,000 He knew they weren't an exact match. 434 00:27:52,001 --> 00:27:54,120 He knew they weren't an exact match. 435 00:27:55,360 --> 00:27:58,240 The question is, who else knew? 436 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:00,000 The Scottish police, the Crown office, 437 00:28:00,001 --> 00:28:02,000 The Scottish police, the Crown office, 438 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:05,960 the prosecution, DOJ, CIA? 439 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,000 PT/35b... 440 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:13,120 ..was planted. 441 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:15,999 The timer fragment has no connection to Libya, 442 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:17,016 The timer fragment has no connection to Libya, 443 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:18,760 and no connection to my father. 444 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:21,840 It was used only to frame him. 445 00:28:23,120 --> 00:28:24,000 The whole case against me dissolves into thin air. 446 00:28:24,001 --> 00:28:26,200 The whole case against me dissolves into thin air. 447 00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,720 Dr Jim Swire. 448 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:02,360 Jim... 449 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:05,920 How did I survive so long? 450 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:11,999 How did I confound medical expertise? 451 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:13,440 How did I confound medical expertise? 452 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,760 Here... is the answer. 453 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:28,000 We have lived so long with the dead... 454 00:29:28,001 --> 00:29:31,000 We have lived so long with the dead... 455 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,160 ..and we must never forget them. 456 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:36,000 But how much sweeter... 457 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:37,000 But how much sweeter... 458 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:39,600 ..to be with the living. 459 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:23,240 When I die, Jim... 460 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:28,040 ..I am going to a place where I hope to see Flora. 461 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:31,160 I will tell her... 462 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:35,280 ..that her father is my friend. 463 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,999 Go back, Jim. Go home to your family. 464 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:41,440 Go back, Jim. Go home to your family. 465 00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:58,480 Dr Swire? 466 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:03,999 Our father is not the Lockerbie bomber. 467 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:05,520 Our father is not the Lockerbie bomber. 468 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:08,560 He's a good man. 469 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:12,000 He's lucky to have you as a friend. 470 00:31:12,001 --> 00:31:13,401 He's lucky to have you as a friend. 471 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:16,760 Thank you. 472 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:48,960 Back in one piece. 473 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:52,000 Have you got another trip in you? 474 00:31:52,001 --> 00:31:53,321 Have you got another trip in you? 475 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,680 Skye, me, the kids, the grandkids. 476 00:31:57,800 --> 00:31:59,120 Will you come? 477 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:01,800 Am I wanted? 478 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:44,800 I'll leave you to it. 479 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:55,960 So where do you think the fragment came from? 480 00:32:56,000 --> 00:33:01,360 We think, Baset, Ghada, John Ashton, myself, 481 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:03,400 we think it was planted, 482 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:04,000 somewhere along the line. 483 00:33:04,001 --> 00:33:05,360 Somewhere along the line. 484 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:07,560 Planted where? 485 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:11,280 Well, it could have been planted by the US intelligence services, 486 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:12,000 or the UK's, or both of them conspiring together. 487 00:33:12,001 --> 00:33:14,800 Or the UK's, or both of them conspiring together. 488 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:17,600 It's happened before. 489 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:20,000 Is that what happened here? 490 00:33:20,001 --> 00:33:21,081 Is that what happened here? 491 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,360 Have they fooled the world for 30 years? 492 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,480 If you think about everything that's happened, 493 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,520 is it really so wild a claim? 494 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:36,000 Let Iran off the hook, blame the rogue state, Libya. 495 00:33:36,001 --> 00:33:38,560 Let Iran off the hook, blame the rogue state, Libya. 496 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:41,360 Maybe there's some truth in that. 497 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:43,999 Younger Murray believed it. 498 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:44,680 Younger Murray believed it. 499 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,960 "Just asking the question." I've still got questions. 500 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:51,480 I'll never run out of them. 501 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,720 Why did Gaddafi want to get one man back to Libya so badly? 502 00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:59,840 Why was it so important to him? 503 00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:00,000 Popularity? Yeah. 504 00:34:00,001 --> 00:34:01,600 Popularity? Yeah. 505 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:05,600 Partly, because Megrahi is a hero, a martyr. 506 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:07,800 We saw that when he got off that plane. 507 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,400 I think he was involved, Jim. 508 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:13,640 I really do. 509 00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:15,999 I think Iran wanted revenge for its Airbus being shot down. 510 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,720 I think Iran wanted revenge for its Airbus being shot down. 511 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:20,640 They farmed it out to the PFLP-GC, 512 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:22,960 but then they got busted by the German police. 513 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:24,000 So someone else stepped forward. Libya. 514 00:34:24,001 --> 00:34:26,000 So someone else stepped forward. Libya. 515 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:30,640 I think when they handed Megrahi and Fhimah over to be tried, 516 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:31,999 they didn't think they'd be convicted. 517 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:32,640 They didn't think they'd be convicted. 518 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:36,440 There wasn't enough evidence. But he was found guilty. 519 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:39,999 Gaddafi owed it to Megrahi to get him home. 520 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:41,680 Gaddafi owed it to Megrahi to get him home. 521 00:34:41,720 --> 00:34:44,040 He owed it to all his security service personnel 522 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:45,440 for keeping him in power. 523 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:47,999 But just because it was a sham trial, 524 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:49,480 But just because it was a sham trial, 525 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:51,440 it doesn't make Megrahi innocent. 526 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:54,800 It was Libya. 527 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:56,000 It was also Iran. 528 00:34:56,001 --> 00:34:57,960 It was also Iran. 529 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,680 And Syria. And the Palestinians. 530 00:35:00,720 --> 00:35:02,200 You believe all of them? 531 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:09,000 I don't think we ever truly realise how much the West is hated. 532 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:11,999 And no wonder. Look how we act, what we do. 533 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,560 And no wonder. Look how we act, what we do. 534 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:15,920 Look how we justify it. 535 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,720 I mean, always someone else. 536 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:21,400 Never us. 537 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:28,000 You might never find the answer you're looking for. You know that? 538 00:35:28,001 --> 00:35:30,601 You might never find the answer you're looking for. You know that? 539 00:35:31,240 --> 00:35:33,280 Well, there, Murray, I have to disagree with you. 540 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:36,000 That's new evidence. 541 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:37,000 That's new evidence. 542 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:41,400 No one can dispute it. No one. Changes everything. 543 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:42,800 So the fight goes on. 544 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:43,999 Well, of course the fight goes on. 545 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:44,640 Well, of course the fight goes on. 546 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,120 They're gonna write that on your gravestone, you know that? 547 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:49,160 Well, I'm not planning one of those just yet. 548 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,440 It's been a hell of a ride, Dr Swire. 549 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,000 It's far from over, Murray. 550 00:36:04,240 --> 00:36:05,680 It's far from over. 551 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:19,560 Can I pay for that? 552 00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:22,680 What's that? 553 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:25,760 The Lockerbie disaster. 554 00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:28,920 What was that? 555 00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,280 But again, essentially, a dry picture. 556 00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,520 And as I mentioned, warming up as the week goes on. 557 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:48,000 And that's how it's looking at the moment. Susan, back to you. 558 00:36:48,001 --> 00:36:50,441 And that's how it's looking at the moment. Susan, back to you. 559 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:53,440 Thank you, Helen. That was Helen Willets. 560 00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:11,999 BBC News at 6:00. This is Peter Donaldson. 561 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,056 BBC News at 6:00. This is Peter Donaldson. 562 00:37:16,240 --> 00:37:17,800 Good evening. 563 00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:19,999 The only person to be convicted of the Lockerbie bombing 564 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:20,480 The only person to be convicted of the Lockerbie bombing 565 00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:22,880 has died of cancer at his home in Libya. 566 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:26,240 David Cameron said the death of Abdelbaset al-Megrahi 567 00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:27,999 was a moment to remember the victims of what he called 568 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:28,760 was a moment to remember the victims of what he called 569 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,080 an "appalling terrorist act." 570 00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:34,040 The Scottish government has said investigations into the bombings 571 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:35,640 will continue. 572 00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:36,000 An earthquake has struck northern Italy... 573 00:37:36,001 --> 00:37:38,160 An earthquake has struck northern Italy... 574 00:38:02,240 --> 00:38:05,120 Go! Come on! Run, run, run, run! 575 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:23,999 Isabel! Archie, come on! 576 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:25,240 Isabel! Archie, come on! 577 00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:29,360 He's dead. 578 00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:36,240 I don't know what to say. 579 00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:42,600 At some kind of peace now, hopefully. 580 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:47,999 But not you. 581 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:49,000 But not you. 582 00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:53,280 Well, he's gone, but... 583 00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:56,000 ..it's not the end, no. 584 00:38:56,001 --> 00:38:57,560 ..it's not the end, no. 585 00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:04,000 There was a time I envied you. 586 00:39:04,001 --> 00:39:05,480 There was a time I envied you. 587 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,080 Your persistence, your anger. 588 00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:11,840 How it drove you on. 589 00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:15,240 Well, if I'd done nothing, 590 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:18,280 if I'd just sat down and cried, I'd never have stopped. 591 00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:23,760 All these years. 592 00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:26,560 On and on and on. 593 00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:30,240 It's always for her. 594 00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:33,760 It's always been for her. 595 00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:42,600 That night, the night it happened... 596 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,040 ..do you remember the awful waiting? 597 00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,280 Not knowing if she was alive or dead? 598 00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:58,960 Sometimes I think we're no closer to the truth now than we were then. 599 00:40:01,720 --> 00:40:06,360 Maybe the only truth is... we'll never really know what happened. 600 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,200 And that breaks my heart. 601 00:40:15,240 --> 00:40:16,000 But once I started to accept that I may never get an answer, 602 00:40:16,001 --> 00:40:18,840 But once I started to accept that I may never get an answer, 603 00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:20,760 I may never know... 604 00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:23,960 ..it meant that I could go on. 605 00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:28,040 And I will. 606 00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:31,040 For them. 607 00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:40,000 Come on, come on. 608 00:40:40,001 --> 00:40:41,321 Come on, come on. 609 00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:46,440 You can't give up. I know that. 610 00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:48,000 I know. 611 00:40:48,001 --> 00:40:49,200 I know. 612 00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:20,000 Lucas, I wanna catch this! 613 00:41:20,001 --> 00:41:21,041 Lucas, I wanna catch this! 614 00:41:27,240 --> 00:41:28,000 Oh, now things are going to change up. Granddad's playing. 615 00:41:28,001 --> 00:41:30,600 Oh, now things are going to change up. Granddad's playing. 616 00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:35,760 Look out over here. Probably better get way out. 617 00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:39,880 Oh! Yeah! 618 00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,600 We got out! We got him out! 619 00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:52,480 It's too full. 620 00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:55,600 It's fine. 621 00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:58,720 Ta-da! 622 00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:11,999 Dad, Mum, come here. 623 00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:13,040 Dad, Mum, come here. 624 00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:14,920 Why? What is it? 625 00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:16,760 A newsflash. 626 00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:18,040 A plane's gone down. 627 00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:20,000 It won't be her flight. It can't be. 628 00:43:20,001 --> 00:43:21,401 It won't be her flight. It can't be. 629 00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:23,920 What's going on? 630 00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:25,560 Cathy, did Flora make her flight? 631 00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:27,200 Yeah, I think so. Oh! 632 00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:31,360 So all your damn computers, 633 00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:34,320 and you can't say whether my child is on that plane! 634 00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:39,800 We have confirmation for you. 635 00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:43,600 The passenger list has been checked and verified. 636 00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:50,080 Flora MacDonald Margaret Swire was a passenger on Pan Am Flight 103. 637 00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:52,000 I'm afraid there are no survivors. 638 00:43:52,001 --> 00:43:53,520 I'm afraid there are no survivors. 639 00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:00,000 No... 640 00:44:00,001 --> 00:44:01,200 No... 641 00:44:02,240 --> 00:44:04,440 No, no. 642 00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:20,760 We have lived so long with the dead, 643 00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:23,960 but how much sweeter to be with the living. 644 00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:30,480 It's been a hell of a ride, Dr Swire. 645 00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:31,880 Guilty. 646 00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:00,400 Be with us. 647 00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,440 Go and have the time of your life. 648 00:45:28,720 --> 00:45:30,040 Love you, Dad. 649 00:48:10,240 --> 00:48:13,680 Subtitles by Sky Access Services www.skyaccessibility.sky 45796

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