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♪ Rom-pa-dom-pom-bom-bom-bom
Rob-dob-dom, dob-a-dob-dom
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♪ Rom-pa-dom-pom-bom-bom-bom I'm in a good mood ♪
Places, people, please.
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I once saw Pierce Brosnan
with a compact in LA Fitness.
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I was quite shocked and then
I thought, "Well, I'll get one."
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Right, what have we got?
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Corporal punishment.
Make-up checks. Stand by.
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First positions, everyone.
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You're looking very brown.
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Been on a sunbed?
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Erm... No.
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Have you had a spray tan, then?
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Erm...
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Don't think so.
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THEY CHUCKLE
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Good evening.
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Good evening and welcome to
This Time with me, Jennie Gresham,
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and the man I am delighted,
no tickled pink,
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to announce is my new permanent
co-host, Alan Partridge.
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APPLAUSE
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I'd like to tickle your pink.
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Tickle you pink.
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So, end of era, start of a new one!
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Thank you. SO many messages,
the vast majority being positive.
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I also had a great meeting with
the team,
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had a few drinks, a few canapes,
said a few words.
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You respect me, I'll respect you -
it's as simple as that.
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It was a good atmosphere. Yeah.
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Now, plenty in store tonight.
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First, it's National Teenage Week,
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so every day we've been focusing on
a different aspect of teenage life
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and gettin' down
with Britain's youth. Oh, yeah.
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Take a look. Wassup?
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And we're off!
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Yes. Good. That's fine. Erm...
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So, oh, yeah, now, very quickly,
now we're co-hosting,
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we should probably meet at mine
for lasagne once a week.
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You know, just to get to know
each other, foster a bit of rapport.
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Doesn't have to be lasagne -
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it could be fish and chips on the
cenotaph with a couple of cans.
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OK, lovely, yeah. I think that's
a great idea. Good. Thank you.
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All right. No, it's good and you're
right about the chemistry -
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it's all about the chemistry.
Good, great.
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I feel like the audience
can just smell insincerity.
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Absolutely.
It's like an animal instinct.
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It is an animal instinct.
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Have you ever seen Noel Edmonds
talk to contestants?
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They won't let cats in the studio
because they start to hiss.
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Yeah.
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Well, look, I think
it'll be fun because it will give us
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a chance to air any concerns,
any quibbles and you'll be great.
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This is Dale.
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Oh, hi, Dale. I'm Jennie.
Nice to meet you. Hi.
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WHISPERING: What do you... what do
you mean quibbles? What do you mean?
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I'll tell you later.
You can't do that. Tell me now.
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You can't do that. Tell me.
We're on in five, four...
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All right, fine, it's your diction.
Thank you.
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Welcome back. Tomorrow, our focus
is on teenage angst
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and the troubling issue of self-harm.
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Ah, well, that's a tough issue,
actually.
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The closest I've ever come to
self-harm, I guess,
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would be I used to pluck nasal hairs
when I was angry with myself
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after a show had gone badly.
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I'd sometimes poke my skin with one
and think,
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"That would make a good
sword for an ant."
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But today we look at
youth unemployment -
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a trend that has cause particular
decay amongst Scottish inner cities.
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And yet I know anecdotally
from friends with large gardens
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that Scottish people
can make great workers,
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so it's a shame.
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We're joined on the sofa
by Dale Daniels,
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himself long-term unemployed,
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who now campaigns to improve
prospects for Scottish youth.
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Dale, thanks for joining us.
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Welcome. Hi.
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Now, you're furious, aren't you,
even for a Scot?
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Well, so should everyone be, huh?
In...
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Absolutely.
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Mmm? A so-called developed nation,
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you know, letting young kids
rot away on these estates, huh?
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When I grew up... Indeed. Mmm?
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I thought you were... Please.
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When I grew up there was industry,
there was factories
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and ship building in the Clyde,
you know, work if you wanted it.
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That... that's not there
any more, huh?
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And then... Absolutely.
What? Sorry.
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So, what happens?
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You know, I mean, kids
fall into a cycle of crime
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and we lay the blame at them,
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but we did that, huh?
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You don't agree? No, I do.
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So, how do we get out of
this vicious cycle?
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Is it education? Training?
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Aye, but it's bigger than that, eh?
Eh.
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It's... You know, it's about
seeing the world from,
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well, from their point of view, huh?
Huh.
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You know, we closed down Sure Start
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and football pitches and youth centres,
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and you wonder why the kids are
getting into bother, huh? Huh.
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I mean, I don't know
if you have any kids, huh?
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Huh. Huh? Uh. Huh.
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Well, eh, I've got a 13-year-old
and that's why
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I'm saying to the Government,
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"All you're doing is building
problems for the future, huh?"
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Uh-huh. A-a-a-a-a, it's amazing
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because, weirdly, what you're
saying actually makes sense.
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Eh? Mmm? Aye. Aye.
Good. Good.
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Jimmie. Jennie.
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Well, thank you so much, Dale Daniels.
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Finding the time to
stay in shape isn't easy.
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I donned my sweatbands
and leotard to find out how
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one street in Walsall
are getting in shape.
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And we're off. One minute.
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Ah...
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Dale, thank you. Thanks.
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Cheers. Uh. Uh.
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I hope I didn't put you off with
the whole diction thing.
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Oh, God, no.
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I think if you don't enunciate,
we're going to get letters.
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They're just buggers about it.
OK, OK, sure, sure.
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Your Ts are just a little bit
splashy, actually. Splashy?
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Yeah, bit sibilant. Splashy?
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Say, "intimate".
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Intimate.
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Yeah, see, what you're saying
is "intimate".
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It's "intimate".
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Do you hear the difference?
I think so.
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Come here, come here.
Look at my lips.
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In. In.
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Te. Te.
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Mate. M-mate.
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Oh, she's just teaching me to talk.
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OK. Do you warm up before the show?
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No, not really.
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Yeah, you should. You'll get there.
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None of us are perfect.
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Oh, thanks.
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It's "none of us IS perfect".
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Mmm? Yeah.
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It's... None is an abbreviation
of not one,
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and you wouldn't say
"not one of us ARE perfect",
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and neither would you say
"none of us are perfect",
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so, none of us IS, is perfect, just...
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You know, like you say, we don't
want people writing letters.
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Yeah, well, thanks.
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And we're back. Happy to help.
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Five, four... HTH. T.
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Is. Now, how much meat do you eat?
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I know you're a big fan, Alan.
I enjoy lots of meat.
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Did you know that I am actually
a pescatarian now?
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I just started to think,
if you're not prepared to
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kill the animal yourself,
you shouldn't be eating it.
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I think... I think I'd be prepared to
hunt down a chicken.
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I actually once saw a man behead
a chicken, yeah.
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Just ran round in circles and...
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Yeah.
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It stays with you, stuff like that.
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Well, farms can be quite
unsentimental places, can't they?
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They can, yes,
although this was in a car park.
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Well, how long can you go without meat?
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We set avowed carnivore Paleo Partridge
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the challenge of going
meat-free for a week.
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Let's see how he got on.
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♪ You and I ate a sausage sandwich... ♪
Meat, it makes you feel good.
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But, today, everyone from
colonoscopists to Morrissey
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are telling us we need to
eat less of it.
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This is about the amount of meat
I eat in a week,
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which is roughly 8kg -
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that's the equivalent of a very fat
baby or two malnourished ones.
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Monday is mince day,
so there are two maxi packs of that.
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Then it goes chicken, chops, chicken,
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before rounding out the week with
a whole rope of Walls pork sausages.
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I like sausages.
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Quick tip - if there's
any pieces of meat left over
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at the end of the week,
you can take a used Magnum stick,
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shove it inside them
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and, hey presto, you've got
meat lollies for the car.
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Do remember, though,
to whittle barbs into the sticks
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so they don't slide off,
similar to the barbs on a bee sting,
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which is why bees die
when they sting you
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because, as they fly away,
they pull their own arses off.
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But this delicious, groaning table
of animal pieces is about to be
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replaced by this...
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BELL CHIMES,
COW MOOS
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..as I, Alan Partridge,
become a vegetarian for a week.
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I'm kicking the weef okk with a medical.
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As a man of a certain age,
I get myself checked out
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whenever I undergo a significant
change in lifestyle,
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be it enjoying regular sex again
after a hiatus,
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or feeling down in the dumps
and not really knowing why.
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If you just want to pop
yourself on the scales...
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Aye.
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VOICEOVER: This is physician
Dr David Armitage.
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No, you can keep them on, Alan.
OK.
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VOICEOVER: A slightly ill-tempered
GP, he left the world of medicine to
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start a new business venture
with his wife, who then left him,
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so he came back to being a GP.
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It's nothing to worry about.
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Some say that homo sapiens
are naturally herbivorous anyway,
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and feeding on meat is like...
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Just like putting petrol
in the diesel tank.
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No.
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Putting diesel in the petrol tank?
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No, not that bad, even.
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Like putting premium unleaded
into a Citroen Saxo.
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VOICEOVER: The doctor would normally
join in with car chat,
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but, as I say, his wife ran off
with a client.
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Well, today promises to be
the first real test.
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I'm about to have lunch with two of
Norwich's biggest businessmen.
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In both senses -
they're both portly steak eaters.
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The first made his money
from online activity,
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and the second,
well, let me give you a clue.
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If you were to walk into any tanning
facility in the county of Norfolk,
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chances are he owns it.
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That's right, it's Darryl Flench.
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Ideally I'd have relocated the lunch
to a more suitable eatery,
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but business doesn't work that way.
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When a bunch of men close a business
deal, whether to promote a brand of
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fashion-forward gardening dungaree
or indeed anything else,
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they don't toast it with a cup of
tea and an egg flan.
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They clink glasses
and laugh their way through
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mouthfuls of wine and beef.
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That's great. Thanks, Baz. That's
a wicked, wicked sense of humour.
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We'll have to do this again.
Cheers, mate.
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All right, OK, I'll see you.
Thanks again, Baz.
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That was really great, really good.
Cheers. See you soon. OK.
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Well, munching on hummus
and carrot sticks wasn't going to
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fly with those guys.
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I had to think of something
meat-free but masculine.
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In the end, I demolished eight
chunky chips served Jenga style
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and 20 onion rings, which were
very greasy but very good.
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All washed down with
a pint of meat-free Lilt.
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Day three, and I'm here at my local
gym and racquets club.
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Whereas gyms in London often stink,
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this one and most others
in Norwich don't.
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I'm here to investigate
whether the switch to veggie-ism
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was affecting my strength.
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Spot me, spot me, spot me.
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This is Gino.
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After his career as a male model was
aborted due to eczema,
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he turned to personal training.
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I wanted to ask him about
the big drop-off in my strength.
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Gino, talk me through the stats.
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VOICEOVER: It's worth noting that Gino is
unfamiliar with imperial measurements.
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OK, well, you'd normally
bench around 30 kilos.
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66 pounds, and sometimes
when you're not here,
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I might bench 41 kilos or 90 pounds.
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Wow. Yeah, wow. But today...
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Today you were struggling
to lift 28 kilos.
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61 pounds, which is some way
short of 41 kilos or 90 pounds.
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You don't normally do 41 kilos.
90 pounds.
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You normally do 30 kilos. 66 pounds.
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And 28 kilos... 61 pounds.
..is only 2 kilos... 5 pounds.
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..short of 30 kilos. 66 pounds.
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So it's not a huge drop-off at all.
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Well, it's a drop-off of 12 kilos,
26 pounds from the 41 kilos,
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90 pounds, that I sometimes do
when you're not here.
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Fine.
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I like Gino.
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I don't think he quite got what I
was driving at, but what he lacks
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in aptitude, he makes for
by having a muscly body.
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But in the early hours,
something even more troubling,
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especially as someone whose mind
is usually as tough as
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a DirtBoy gardening dungaree.
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I've just woken up from having
my regular prostitute dream.
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It's fine. I have it all the time.
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And it got the part where
I was gargling mouthwash
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in the bathroom, and I looked up
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and Bianca was leaning against the wall,
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and I said, "I thought I told you to
stay in the bedroom?"
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And then she untwizzled
her dressing gown
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and, as it dropped to the floor,
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I saw that she was made
completely of ham.
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I think I ate her.
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And worse was to follow at
that morning's production meeting.
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Ordinarily at these meetings,
they call me Mr Berocca,
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because I'm literally fizzing
with ideas.
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What does drive value mean?
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Is it meaningless? No, it's not.
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It actually means something.
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But today I was more like flat pop...
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OVERLAPPING VOICES SPEAK
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..lifeless, listless, lost.
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This had to end.
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But after nearly five days of
meat avoidance,
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I think I'd proved A, my point,
and B, a lot of people wrong.
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I'm Alan Partridge and I eat meat.
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But there's a happy accident
to my story.
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People say, "How did going veggie help
you reconnect with your daughter?"
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Well, it's to do with
going to the toilet.
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I never realised it could be
so utterly painless... and swift.
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What was once a gentle migration is
now a rapid exodus,
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leaving me with a free half-hour
of extra time every day.
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I was twiddling my thumbs
when I found myself
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twiddling out a text to my daughter.
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"Hey, Denise, it's Alan Partridge,
comma, ah-hah, exclamation mark,
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"brackets, Dad, exclamation mark.
Wassup?"
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Well, fast-forward to me and my daughter
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sitting at my favourite table
in my favourite Starbucks,
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having a good old noggin
and a welcome catch-up.
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Thanks, vegetarianism!
I'll never slag you off again.
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Mmm, vegetables!
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♪ You and I share a common language
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♪ When you and I ate
a sausage sandwich... ♪
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So a fairly gruelling week, there, Alan.
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It did gruel me, Jennie, yes.
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But you reconnected with your daughter.
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Briefly. Obviously, now I've
resumed meat eating,
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that free time has evaporated
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but life, like cheap meat, can be tough.
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Conversely, life can also,
like good-quality meat,
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be tender and succulent,
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with just... with just
a bit of blood.
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Now, though, over to a man that
looks like he sits in a dark room
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eating white bread all day long.
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Vitamin deficient
but humour proficient, who else?
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Simon Denton.
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Hello, Alan.
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Hi. Hello, Alan.
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Well, Simon, you've been on the hunt
for wacky stories... Wack-wack!
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..keeping your ear to the ground
like a Native American tracker,
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Big Chief Chuckle Chops. Yes.
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Right, so, we asked viewers to send
in funny stories they had spotted
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in the news, and you have done
in your dozens.
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Wow.
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I was just having a chuckle with Lucy
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and some of the guys in the office
and they are very, very funny,
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but we start with one that was
sent in by a Mr Alan Partridge.
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Oh, now, this is good.
This is fantastic.
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It's very funny. It is, yeah.
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Now, you found it in
the Sussex Telegraph? Mm-hmm.
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And if we can just get a picture up,
we shall see.
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That is no files found.
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Mmm. Hmm... The plot thickens.
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00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:12,479
Up there, down there...
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You found it in the Sussex Telegraph
and that's no files found.
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Nada. What are we doing here?
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Nada. Let's go again.
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Come on. Say a little prayer.
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Come on.
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No files found. Aye.
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Can you do it without the picture?
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It's better with the picture.
Do it without.
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So the headline is
"What Choo Lookin' At?"
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Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm, and there's
a picture of a train, hence "choo",
345
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but vandals have got involved
and kind of, erm...
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I want to find the picture.
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It's fine.
I'll find it on my photos.
348
00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:51,079
Can someone bring me my smartpad?
My iTablet?
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Erm... Ah, right...
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TABLET CHIMES
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God, that's a good picture.
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00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:14,799
Ah, no, it's not here.
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Oh, well.
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Do it without the picture, just...
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It's fine. I've got it on my phone.
Good.
356
00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:25,159
Right, OK, so the headline is
"What Choo Lookin' At?"
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And I can... Can you see that?
Which camera?
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Any. Where am I going?
Any? This one.
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00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:31,359
So if you zoom in, you should just
be able... OK, it's gone off.
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That's gone off.
Why's that gone off?
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Is it the battery? Battery's gone.
Battery's gone.
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00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:37,199
Yep. Note to Simon, make sure
your battery's charged
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before you're on a live TV show
next time. On This Time.
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Just tell us what it was.
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So the headline read...
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"What Choo Lookin' At?"
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And the photo was of?
Photo of a truck...
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A train. A train, sorry, saying...
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Not saying. A train which
looked like it had eyes,
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hence, "What are you looking at?"
What Choo Looking At?
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Choo-choo train. What Choo Lookin'
At? Yeah, choo-choo train, yes.
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I know. It was very funny.
Choo-choo train.
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OK, well, that was all right.
That was good. Back to you, Jennie.
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I know. Huh?
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00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:05,880
- Now, to some people...
- LOUD THUD
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..driverless cars sound like the
ultimate care-free way to travel.
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Others see a computer failing to
recognise a wireless printer
378
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and wonder why you'd expect it to
recognise a lollypop lady at 30mph,
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even one of the larger ones.
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00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:22,639
But it seems driverless cars
are on their way.
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And for some, that spells opportunity.
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Our reporter Ruth Duggan joins us
from AI Mobile Tech,
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00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:30,839
a Cambridge-based software company.
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Ruth, I'm sure we'll be speaking
to each other a great deal
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now I'm the new co-host.
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I hope there are no hard feelings.
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00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:39,159
OK, fair enough.
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00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:42,239
Ruth, a drastic change to
the world of motoring.
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00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:43,839
Well, I don't know about drastic.
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00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:46,599
Mercedes Benz developed
a driverless car in 1987,
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so change has been relatively gradual.
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00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:51,439
And I believe we'll be seeing these
cars on British roads quite soon?
393
00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:53,599
That's right. The Government has
said that it wants
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fully driverless cars
in use by 2021. Wow.
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00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:59,159
Once again, jobs potentially
being lost to robots.
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00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:01,919
Well, actually,
it's expected to boost employment.
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00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:04,359
The treasury has earmarked
150 million for
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training and development.
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00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:07,799
And it'll spell big changes
to everything
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00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:10,399
from congestion to insurance.
It certainly will.
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00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:12,559
Presumably premiums are going to
go through the roof.
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00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:13,879
No, the opposite.
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00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:17,159
Some 94% of crashes
are caused by human error.
404
00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:20,359
Remove that from the equation,
and insurance costs should tumble.
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00:18:20,360 --> 00:18:23,039
Computers don't share our
bad habits, I suppose. Here we go.
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00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:24,519
Exactly. Unbelievable.
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00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:26,639
A computer isn't going to
fiddle with a car's sat nav
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00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:28,879
while changing lanes on a motorway
like some people.
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I'm not sure people do.
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00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:33,639
In-built sat navs tend to be
disabled while driving,
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00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:34,919
so not totally accurate.
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Look, the point is, all of
the things that a driver
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has to remember to do -
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you know, look in the mirror, slow
down, push the clutch, change gear -
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they're all done by AI.
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00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:45,519
I doubt if they'd have
a clutch to push, though -
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00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:47,079
it'll just be a torque converter.
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00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:49,959
Because it's automatic transmission.
Precisely.
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00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:52,279
Well, I take your point,
but whatever the mechanics,
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it'll mean no more slaps
on the wrist from the DVLA.
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00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:56,399
DVSA, maybe?
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00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:58,999
Sorry? Oh, it's not the DVLA
any more, they merged with VOSA
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and became the DVSA in 2014, I think.
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00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:04,959
Mmm, meaning what, the Driving
and Vehicle Standards Agency?
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00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:06,439
That's absolutely right, Jennie.
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00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:09,319
Well, forgive me, I'm not familiar
with all the latest abbreviations.
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00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:11,119
It's not an abbreviation.
Acronym, sorry.
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00:19:11,120 --> 00:19:14,039
And not an acronym either.
No, it's an initialism.
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00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:16,639
An acronym is an initialism that can
be pronounced as a word
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00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:18,239
like NASA or LOL.
431
00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:20,559
You should watch more QI.
Which is initialism?
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00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:22,559
That's exactly right, Jennie, yes.
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00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:26,239
Either way, the biggest change
will be one of attitudes.
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00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:29,399
Britain has tended to be
somewhat cool on new technology,
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00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:33,679
but expect that frostiness to unthaw once
driverless cars hit the roads. Unthaw?
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00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:35,439
Back to you. Thanks, Ruth.
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00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:36,999
I think means thaw. Yeah.
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00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:39,319
A fascinating... I think she
probably said the wrong word
439
00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:40,719
because she was under pressure.
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00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:43,999
A fascinating glimpse
at a driverless future.
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00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:47,519
Now, it's three decades since
corporal punishment was abolished
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00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:48,839
in British schools.
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00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:52,079
Corporal punishment, of course,
different from capital punishment.
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00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:55,679
I've been asked to point that out,
as some BBC One viewers
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find added clarity useful.
446
00:19:57,760 --> 00:19:59,279
But as we found out this week,
447
00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:02,599
it's a topic that provokes
strong opinion.
448
00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:03,759
45 seconds.
449
00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:05,119
Lynn, lunch box. I'm starving.
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00:20:05,120 --> 00:20:06,239
But you don't have time.
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00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:08,639
If I don't eat, I'll faint.
Lynn, a Penguin?
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00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:11,039
I'm back on TV - I think we can
afford to kick it up a notch.
453
00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:12,239
Do you want some shortbread?
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00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:13,559
No, Lynn, think premium.
455
00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:14,919
Double Decker, Topic...
456
00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:16,599
Do you think the Dimblebys eat Penguins?
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00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:18,639
I'm having a sandwich now.
You don't have time.
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00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:20,960
Clear the floor, please.
Do you...?
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00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:25,119
OK, guys, stand by.
We're coming on shortly.
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00:20:25,120 --> 00:20:27,399
It's a seeded batch.
You'll never break it down.
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00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:30,279
It'll push your gums back even further.
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00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:31,999
15 seconds.
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00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:33,399
Do you want to spit it into my...
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00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:34,919
Do you want to spit it into my hanky?
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00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:36,000
ALAN GRUNTS
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Quiet on the floor now.
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00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:40,040
And we're back on in five, four...
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00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:42,440
That was good egg.
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00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:45,639
The viewers of the British public there.
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00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:49,919
And as you can see,
some vocal opinions on either side.
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00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:51,519
Especially that very shouty guy -
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it did worry me a bit
what might have happened to him.
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00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:55,599
I remember a boy at school
actually who was
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00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:58,799
hit on the head
by a wooden board duster. Oh.
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00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:00,839
And he spoke really loudly
for about a year.
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00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:03,279
We used to call him Boom Boom.
477
00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:06,399
Well, to help us look at
the discipline of yesteryear,
478
00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:08,639
we sent Alan back to his old school.
479
00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:12,519
And I must warn you that this film
contains teachers some viewers
480
00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:14,280
may find disturbing.
481
00:21:17,360 --> 00:21:19,359
This is St Jude's High School,
482
00:21:19,360 --> 00:21:23,479
a secondary specialising in the
performing arts and media studies,
483
00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:26,319
but back in the 1970s,
it was an actual school
484
00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:27,959
and I was a pupil here.
485
00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:29,519
BELL RINGS
486
00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:33,199
Today the corridors of
St Jude's are alive
487
00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,279
with the sound of laughter and play.
488
00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:37,280
CHILDREN LAUGHING
489
00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:39,799
Back then, however,
490
00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:43,359
the school echoed with an
altogether different noise...
491
00:21:43,360 --> 00:21:45,360
PUNCHING AND GRUNTING
492
00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:53,119
GROANING
493
00:21:53,120 --> 00:21:56,319
..the noise of corporal punishment.
494
00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:58,359
Thrashings were
the order of the day back then.
495
00:21:58,360 --> 00:22:00,199
The only ways to avoid a walloping -
496
00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:03,999
keep out of trouble or get
home-schooled like Dominic Bentham,
497
00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,799
although I think he ended up
killing himself in his 40s.
498
00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:08,839
Oi!
499
00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:12,239
Alas, for those of us
schooled in the classroom,
500
00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:15,159
the finger of blame didn't always
land on the guilty.
501
00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:18,159
Partridge! What is that?
502
00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:22,039
Bring it here. And stop gawping,
for crying out loud.
503
00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:25,359
Ordinarily I'd see a boy taking
the long walk to the teacher's desk
504
00:22:25,360 --> 00:22:29,079
and think, "He was being disruptive.
Go on, sir, batter him."
505
00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:31,599
But on this occasion, that boy was me.
506
00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:32,680
What is it?
507
00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:37,039
It's a picture of you, sir,
508
00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,039
with a penis where your nose should be.
509
00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:40,559
Is that what you think I look like?
510
00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:42,319
It wasn't me, sir.
511
00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:44,199
It as Smithy.
He's from a broken home...
512
00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:45,999
Oh!
513
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,159
Something changed in me that day.
514
00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:49,879
I had walked to school a boy...
515
00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:51,479
Now, sit down, you lemon.
516
00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,760
..but I returned home a big boy.
517
00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:01,239
Fortunately, what the psychotic
teachers of the 1970s lacked
518
00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:06,079
in self-control,
they also lacked in technique.
519
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:09,759
Inexperienced teachers would often
opt for a one-handed stroke
520
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:13,879
with little backlift
and a short follow-through.
521
00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:16,239
But swing analysis from my
squash coach reveals this to be
522
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,839
both ineffective and inaccurate.
523
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:22,759
With little rotation of the hips,
the backswing ends here,
524
00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:25,079
which means the maximum arc of
the swing is shortened
525
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,359
and an unsteady stance means
energy dissipates
526
00:23:27,360 --> 00:23:29,199
as the swing is completed.
527
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,759
But watch what happens with a firmer
base and a longer backlift.
528
00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:33,080
WHISTLE BLOWS
529
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:38,199
In this case, the swing stops here.
530
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:41,119
Look at the line from the shoulder
all the way down to the knee.
531
00:23:41,120 --> 00:23:43,759
The wider stance creates stability,
so that energy can be
532
00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:47,279
transferred from the standing leg
all the way to the front knee.
533
00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,119
And with the hips rotated right round,
534
00:23:49,120 --> 00:23:51,439
the striker is like a coiled spring.
535
00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:55,119
If we play on, watch, now,
how all of that force is driven down
536
00:23:55,120 --> 00:23:57,839
through the arc of the swing,
picking up speed, picking up speed,
537
00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:03,079
as the front knee bears
all the weight, and then pow!
538
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:06,079
The striker hits through the target,
continuing to rotate the hips
539
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,159
until he ends up in a finishing pose
540
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,600
that is the mirror image
of the backlift.
541
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:13,680
Impressive.
542
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,439
Eventually corporal punishment was
subject to a blanket ban,
543
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:22,919
except in emergencies,
544
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:24,919
but the memories remain -
545
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:29,399
sore heads, swollen knuckles,
rosy-red bum cheeks.
546
00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:31,079
Sounds funny -
547
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:32,240
don't feel funny.
548
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,119
Well, a rather harrowing look...
Thank you.
549
00:24:39,120 --> 00:24:42,679
..at a practice I'm glad to say
we've long since left behind.
550
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:46,719
Hear, hear. As a parent, I didn't
even hit my own kids. Mm-hmm.
551
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,479
Yet my wife hit them, ex-wife,
but I didn't
552
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:51,599
and now she's their favourite.
553
00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:53,039
Riddle me that one.
554
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,959
But have schools become too soft?
Really awful woman.
555
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,639
And are we now facing
a crisis of discipline?
556
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:00,679
Functioning alcoholic.
To discuss the subject,
557
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:04,639
we're here with a panel of people
drawn from media, education
558
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:06,599
and the general public.
559
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:10,039
Paul Froggatt, a former head teacher,
560
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:11,799
you headed up the campaign to abolish
561
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:13,439
corporal punishment in schools.
562
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:17,439
Which we finally achieved in
all English schools in 1998.
563
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,199
Ah, that must have been quite a moment.
564
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:20,919
It was. You must have got hammered.
565
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,119
We were very pleased.
566
00:25:23,120 --> 00:25:27,359
But others wonder if we're letting
unruly children off too lightly.
567
00:25:27,360 --> 00:25:31,759
Carole Blears from the Daily Mail,
you famously wrote a book
568
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,319
attacking political correctness
called Fat Black Cripple,
569
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:37,599
and you believe that pupils have
lost respect for authority.
570
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:39,159
Well, that's an understatement.
571
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:42,119
Hilarious. We'll come to you in a
minute, but first a show of hands -
572
00:25:42,120 --> 00:25:45,959
who believes school discipline
is too soft?
573
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,599
Half and half. That's shocking.
574
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,039
Paul Froggatt,
let me put to you a hypothesis.
575
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:52,119
You can put it down now.
576
00:25:52,120 --> 00:25:54,319
Oh, thank you.
577
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:57,159
You're a teacher
at a tough inner-city school -
578
00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,719
let's call it
St Bastard's in Knucklesford.
579
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:03,559
There's a problem boy -
let's call him Bad Gav.
580
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,719
Erm... No, no, Bobby Rascal.
581
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,759
He's been going around saying
that your wife brings off boys
582
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:11,719
round the back of the bike shed.
583
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:15,479
Now, that's crossing a line.
It's not even true, probably.
584
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,239
How do you handle a pupil like that?
585
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:20,119
Well, I don't handle any pupil.
586
00:26:20,120 --> 00:26:21,279
That's my point.
587
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:22,799
Because looking back 30 or 40 years,
588
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:24,719
he would have been given
six of the best.
589
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:28,079
Further back than that,
he would have been given 40 lashes.
590
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:31,079
Even further, he would have been
made to lie on a bed of nails
591
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:32,599
holding a sack of potatoes.
592
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:34,519
And do you understand how
that would work?
593
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:35,679
The extra weight. Yeah.
594
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:37,159
It would make the nails dig in more.
595
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:38,439
Yeah.
596
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:42,999
Carole... Look, all violence does is
continue a cycle of abuse.
597
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:44,239
Well, does it?
598
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:47,839
Does cycling continue
a violence of abuse with a chap?
599
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,199
I'd like to make a point. Yeah.
600
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,799
It's just that they tried to
kick us out of a holiday home once
601
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:56,199
because people were saying that my
wife had been hitting my daughter.
602
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,039
Right, but she hadn't? No.
603
00:26:58,040 --> 00:26:59,279
OK, well, good.
604
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,639
It was me.
You were hitting your daughter?
605
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:03,679
Hitting my daughter? No.
606
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:06,399
So it wasn't you?
It was me that was getting hit.
607
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:07,879
By your wife? Aye.
608
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,359
In front of your daughter?
In a holiday home.
609
00:27:10,360 --> 00:27:13,679
Honestly, sometimes you just want to
throw your hands up and say, "Why?"
610
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:15,719
Anyone...?
Well, that's where we were staying.
611
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:17,399
Yeah, no, I mean,
why was she hitting you?
612
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:18,959
Oh, sorry, I thought you mean that...
613
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,079
No, but why, why,
why were you being hit?
614
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:22,999
Because I'd smoked all her fags.
615
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,399
Right, so your wife was hitting you
because she was upset
616
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:26,679
about her cigarettes.
617
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:28,519
Not my wife, my daughter.
618
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:29,999
Your daughter was hitting you?
619
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,520
No. My wife was hitting me,
and my daughter was upset.
620
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:36,839
Oh, so they were her cigarettes?
621
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:38,359
No, they were my wife's cigarettes.
622
00:27:38,360 --> 00:27:40,479
Your wife hit you
because your daughter was upset
623
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,759
because you were smoking
your wife's cigarettes? Aye.
624
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:46,199
Why?
She doesn't like seeing her upset.
625
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:47,719
Not why was your wife hitting you -
626
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:51,519
why was your daughter upset that you
were smoking her mum's cigarettes?
627
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,040
Her mam doesn't smoke.
628
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,039
So why did she have cigarettes?
629
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:58,959
I don't think she did. I don't know.
630
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,399
Anyway, she was... she wasn't there.
631
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,839
But you just said she was hitting you.
632
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:05,359
No, that was my wife.
633
00:28:05,360 --> 00:28:08,199
No, my daughter's mam
was up in Sunderland.
634
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:09,519
Different people.
635
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:10,919
You'd remarried. Aye.
636
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:12,959
Right. Let me get this right.
637
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:16,119
You were in a holiday home with
your ex-wife's daughter
638
00:28:16,120 --> 00:28:19,999
and your new wife,
and your new wife was hitting you
639
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,879
because your daughter was upset
because you'd smoked
640
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:24,039
your wife's cigarettes?
641
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:25,359
Please, God, say yes.
642
00:28:25,360 --> 00:28:26,599
Yes.
643
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,879
It's like one of those mind puzzles
you get in the Sunday Times,
644
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:33,759
you know, when a man is found dead
in a field next to an open package.
645
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:34,839
How did he die?
646
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:35,999
Oh, it's a parachute.
647
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:37,039
Yes!
648
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,639
Yes, well, we are out of time.
649
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:43,399
Plenty of views on all sides, there,
of the debate.
650
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:46,359
Paul, you've written a novel
about smacking? Yes.
651
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:49,799
Yeah, in which presumably
a smacked boy becomes sociopathic
652
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:53,119
and ends up doing something awful
like letting off a nuclear bomb?
653
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:54,159
Sort of.
654
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,279
A suicide vest? Yeah. Yeah.
655
00:28:56,280 --> 00:29:00,279
Sadly, no time for our second
moral debate, do dogs go to heaven?
656
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,599
Jennie, do dogs go to heaven?
In a word.
657
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,239
No, I... No. No.
658
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:06,479
No. Yes.
659
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,519
I've got two dogs... That's all
we've got time for on This Time.
660
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:10,599
Goodnight.
661
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:11,600
Goodnight.
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