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We're so happy to be
in this beautiful sanctuary
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to celebrate the bat mitzvah
of the one and only Sevey.
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You're not an adult right now.
We know that.
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You're not paying the mortgage.
You're not-- you know,
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you're not getting a job
and supporting yourself.
You, you're--
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You're on the brink of it.
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My darling Sevey,
what an honor and privilege
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it is to be your mom,
and to stand here before you
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today to witness you
become a bat mitzvah.
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I'm very proud of you.
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I can't believe
I have a daughter who is 13.
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Open up the card.
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"I love you more than unicorns!"
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That's a lot of love.
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People always say
how quickly the time goes
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with our kids, but for us,
each day, month, year
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has been a journey,
and not always an easy one.
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The lessons I've learned
in the past year
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while studying this Torah
portion and everything about it
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is to stand up for what's right
and only look forward
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because the past is in the past.
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While Sevey appears so confident
and self-possessed in public,
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getting to this day
has not been easy for her.
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Because since she was a baby,
she's had an extremely
anxious existence.
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Anxiety, like, hurts my bones.
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I don't know how to, like, say
that, like, it hurts my bones,
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and, like,
it feels like a little piece
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of my heart rips off every time.
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It's become almost a daily thing
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in our house for Sevey to have
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a colossal meltdown
where she lands on the ground,
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can't catch her breath,
and can't move.
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I start getting this, like,
gut feeling to just start
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crying and start, like,
hysterically melting down, um--
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It feels like a giant person is
just going like this to my head.
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It just makes my body just,
like, stop everything
that it's doing
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-and just...
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...break down.
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Sevey's anxiety has left me
feeling powerless as her mother,
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and I know we're not alone.
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The pressures our kids feel,
the complexities of the world,
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and their ability to cope
with it has made anxiety
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impact our kids on a level
we've never seen before.
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So I set out to make
this film to understand
what our kids are going through.
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- It gets very hard
to breathe...
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...and my head's pounding,
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and I can't exactly
think straight.
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It became unbearable.
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Every day,
I dreaded going to school.
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This, like, storm
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of just negativity.
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Suddenly start
breathing really hard.
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And you can't think straight,
and you start screaming
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and getting angry for no reason.
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Anxiety is like worrying
about your own shadow.
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Anxiety in kids and teens
is a national crisis,
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and it's time we talk about it.
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The real joy,
as well as responsibility,
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of parenthood begins the day
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the mother and father bring
the baby home from the hospital.
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Noah is our oldest child...
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...and so as first-time parents,
we just assumed
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that, you know, crying 23 out
of 24 hours a day was normal.
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And I think it was actually
when he first went to school
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that we probably noticed it
was as an issue.
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We would drop him off.
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They would assure us
that it was going to be fine.
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Cut off. Come to order.
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And then he would go
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to the other side
of the building
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outside for early recess,
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and we would hear him screaming
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as we walked away
from the building.
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It was just awful.
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The first real memory I have
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of being very anxious
going to school,
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I was clinging to the seat, um,
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when my dad was trying
to pull me out of the car.
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And, uh, it almost
became a sense of panic
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when I was feeling anxious,
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and I would all
of a sudden start
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to feel a little bit sick...
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...and then my mind
would start racing.
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I would get really nervous
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looking for a place to go,
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maybe biting my nails
and think, "Okay,
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I'm gonna throw up soon,
something bad is gonna happen,
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and I won't be
able to handle it."
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And he would call and say,
"My stomach hurts.
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I think I'm going to throw up."
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And it started
as one phone call,
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and then it became four,
five, six phone calls.
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And ending each day, uh,
with Noah, uh, was a process.
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It would take up
to two or three hours
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a night to put him to bed.
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That was our routine.
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And there was one night
I said to him,
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"But why are you so
afraid to go to sleep?"
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And he said, "Because tomorrow
I'm gonna wake up,
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and it's gonna start
all over again."
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We're at the children's museum.
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Good girl!
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Cooper, say hello.
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Cooper, honey,
be careful of the big kids.
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-Yay!
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I wasn't really sure
what it was,
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but when she was... four...
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...and we were applying
to kindergarten,
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she started to have
some motor tics.
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She was doing a very aggressive
flinching of the arms.
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-Mom, I can--
Like, it was like...
-No, no, no, you don't have
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-to demonstrate. So, it--
-It was like,
I would go like this,
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-like, constantly.
-And it was
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really painful to watch.
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We took her to the pediatrician
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just to tell her
what was going on,
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and the pediatrician said,
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"Do you have any idea
how anxious your child is
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about all this
kindergarten nonsense,
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these interviews,
these playdates?"
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And I said, "Oh, I don't,
I don't really think
she's anxious."
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And he said, "Yeah,
I think she's really anxious."
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Um, for me, I feel like
it's just kind of something
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that can really come
in big, and it can last.
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And sometimes,
it makes you think
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about all the bad possibilities.
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It's just, sometimes,
it feels like
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you can't control it.
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When I go to bed,
I have a lot of things
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beside me, like ChapStick,
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and hair ties,
and Vaseline, and tissues,
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and... So that's just
where I keep all that.
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And then I get in bed.
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I make sure
my sheets are tucked.
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That's just a way of comfort.
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And then
I organize all my things
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and organize my things,
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and I put them,
like, in the middle.
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Sometimes I just feel
really overwhelmed with it,
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like, "Oh, my God, what--"
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Like, sometimes, I'll just have
a minute, and I'll be like,
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I need to get
that thought out of my brain.
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When I first started
ha-- having anxiety,
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it did start off
with the stuffed animals
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and the bedtime routine.
I was having
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an extremely
difficult time sleeping.
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I couldn't stop
straightening things,
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and closing things,
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and making sure things
were exactly how I wanted them.
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Some nights, I would just...
I would sit there,
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and I'd say, "I can't stop.
I think I'm gonna die."
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That was really when we knew
anxiety was something
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that was definitely
a part of everything,
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and probably
a part of the ticking
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when she was, you know, four.
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It's crazy to think
about being a kid
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and having episodes,
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like panic attack
level episodes.
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Like, there was one instance
where I couldn't find
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where my mom was in the house,
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and there was a locked door
to my dad's studio,
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and he wasn't home.
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And at five or six,
I punched my hand through,
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like, a full pane glass door
because I was so frantic
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that she was on the other side
and, like, needed me and that...
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...you know,
she needed help or something.
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It was a, it was just a whole--
the way it escalated
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was probably in 30 seconds.
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And she had just been
on the phone upstairs.
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I wanna go to sleep
because...
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Well, Jonah, if you need
to take a nap, that's fine,
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but, you know, j--
we gotta read the book.
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-There's nothing we can do--
-I can't take a nap, though.
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I can't do anything!
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You said it's just
the one page is boring.
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-It's-- you know--
-It is. It's so stupid!
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If it happens, like,
I'll just kind of feel
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maybe s-- a little bit sick.
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For the most part,
I just want to scream,
and being really upset,
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and you just kind
of start spiraling.
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It's basically just when
I have a bunch of stuff, like,
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I guess a bunch of information,
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like, coming in at once...
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...or like bunch of things that
people are telling me to do.
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That's really what triggers me.
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When he's actually
in the middle of anxiety issues,
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it can be a little scary
sometimes, yeah,
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is what I would describe it.
She says heartbreaking,
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I say scary,
it's kind of the same thing.
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Oh, my God.
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The thought
that goes through my mind,
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"What do I have to do?"
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You know, I pray about it.
I think about it.
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I'm like, "What can I do
to do this? What can I do?
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What are--
what's the next solution?
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What's the next strategy?
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How can I help him?"
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Because I can't foresee him
being like this his whole life.
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It's just torture.
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I just had all these feelings
in my, my gut,
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all these gut problems
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where I just was feeling sick
all the time.
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And it was like,
I'm embarrassed to, to be
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in class because
my stomach is rumbling
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or I'm having to run
to the restroom.
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So it became more embarrassment.
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That was in elementary
school, you know, fifth grade,
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around all these other kids
who seem to be so carefree...
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...and who I didn't know,
maybe some of them
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were dealing with some
of the similar things I was,
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but no one was talking about it.
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I didn't think anyone else
was having the same issues
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that I was having...
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...and I didn't want
to be judged.
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I began going to the doctor,
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just trying
to figure out, you know,
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what it was
that I was dealing with.
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They really didn't know
what to do for me,
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and I tried everything,
everything under the sun.
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And it was never a cure.
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♪ Feel like a merry-go-round ♪
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It was always
like going to the doctor
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and the doctor saying, "Oh,
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it's like a phase
she's going through."
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But what happens is, like,
you can say it's a phase,
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but I think with anxiety,
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a huge factor of it
is how it changes.
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You, you tend to find
new, new triggers.
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You find things that...
Like, it goes through--
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it does go through phases,
but it's not a phase.
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Yeah.
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I remember one day,
Noah coming home from school
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and sitting on the bottom step,
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and he said,
"No one understands me.
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Um, what's wrong with me?
Why don't I feel normal?"
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And that's
a terrible question to get
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when you're tucking
your child in bed at night, say,
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"Why, why aren't I normal?"
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I travel around the country.
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I have been talking
for a few years
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about what's going on
with our kids, anxiety,
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the issues
that we're dealing with, stress.
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When I talk to parents,
I do a lot
of parenting workshops,
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and conferences,
and that kind of stuff,
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and I say to parents
at the beginning jokingly,
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"Okay, so here's the deal.
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If it's nature, it's you.
If it's nurture, it's you."
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And then everybody sort
of laughs nervously, "Ha-ha."
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But really, it's a combination.
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There is a genetic component.
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Temperament plays a part in it.
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If you have several kids,
you may have one child,
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you say, "Gosh,
he's so laid-back."
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And then we've got other kids
with different temperaments,
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more introverted,
more sensitive,
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just generally more
fearful of the world.
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So there is
that huge nature component.
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What do we do with that,
is the nurture,
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and if we have a kid
who we know is at risk
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because of trauma,
because of their personality,
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because of, uh, the way that
their family handles the world,
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that's when we have
to step in and say,
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"How do we nurture
through the nature?"
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In the same way
that sometimes your kid
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has a musical ear and sometimes
they have a gift for math,
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sometimes they're going
to be more anxious
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or more inattentive, um,
than the average child.
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And, and basically, we're
talking about DNA roulette.
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When you have children,
you get this whole set
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of networks inside of you
of ancient, ancient history...
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...as a mammal
and as a human being,
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to protect that baby.
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That's, like,
your number one thing.
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"I'm gonna keep that baby safe."
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So, of course, even in you,
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it can create
incredible anxiety.
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What am I supposed
to do so that my child
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won't get depressed,
won't get anxious,
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won't get into trouble,
won't experience trauma,
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won't feel despair
in their life,
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that they can have a good,
solid life,
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they can be kind,
they can be caring,
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they can be empathic,
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and they can feel
good about who they are?
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Our environment
plays such a strong role
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as to those who go on
to develop anxiety disorders.
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And so I kind
of like to think about it
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as genetics being the gun
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and the environment
being the trigger.
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I believe
the parent-child relationship
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is the most
profound relationship
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because the child is bathed
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and surrounded
by the parents' energy
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more than anyone else.
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And those early years
is when the child
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is the most absorbent,
the most sponge-like.
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So it's very important
for the parent to be
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in a state of wholeness.
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Nobody comes
into my office and says,
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"You know, I really wanted
to make my kid a worrier
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like, like I am."
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But what we know
about kids that are anxious,
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that are raised
in worried environments,
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is that they perceive the world
as a more dangerous place.
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Anxiety is generally
fueled by thoughts
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about things
that haven't happened yet.
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It's called
"catastrophic thinking."
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Anxious parents talk a lot
about the dangers of the world.
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They catastrophize.
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So instead of saying,
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"Hey, pay attention
when you ride your bike,"
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they say, "Look,
there are people
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on the way to school
that could steal you,
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and you could get hit by a car,"
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and they talk about all
the things that could happen.
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Now, think about the way
that worry and anxiety work.
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They're all about what-if-ing,
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thinking about
what could happen,
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and anxious parents
tend to do that
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in front of their children,
not just about
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what's going on
with their children,
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-but in their own lives too.
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Noah would go out
and want to ride his bike
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in the driveway
without his helmet.
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I would say things like,
"You can't go out
without your helmet.
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You know what would happen?
You fall off your bike.
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You crack your skull.
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You know,
you'll have brain damage."
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And then, you know, I would give
every worst-case scenario.
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And I did that to my kids.
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Anxiety, uh, depends
a, a lot on your upbringing.
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There's a family feeling,
and this family feeling
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is an heirloom
dating back generations
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that's just transmitted
around the dinner table
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that help people to shape
what it is that they'll feel.
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Each one of us
comes with a legacy
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from our childhoods,
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and those early
childhood experiences
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create imprints
within us, a script...
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...a mental movie
we make of who we are,
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how we relate with others,
and how the world is.
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You know, how our parents
were around love,
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around challenges,
around race, color, sexuality,
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all of that has created
a script within us
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that creates our life story
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upon which we now
base our entire existence.
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Unless we awaken
to these patterns,
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unless we realize
how we are living a pattern,
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we will unconsciously
project these patterns
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onto our children.
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I was always an anxious kid,
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I think, even if my parents
or friends didn't realize it.
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I was always worried
about something.
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I was worried about money,
or worried about how I looked,
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worried about friends,
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worried about
what people thought.
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I-- It was unsettling.
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When I was a kid,
did you find me to be anxious?
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Uh, I don't, I don't know that I
would have said it was anxious.
362
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You had a little--
you had a lot of tics.
363
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What sort of tics,
physical tics?
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Physical tics.
Whatever you call them.
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But your father did also,
so it didn't bother me.
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I could see where people, um,
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would literally be
thinking dark thoughts,
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like, "This is
on the DNA of your family,
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and then, you know,
you're to blame."
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And-- But I, I, I, I don't think
we've gone down that path.
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If you look at the closet,
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every shirt has to be laying
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on the hanger
facing the same way.
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The hangers are virtually
the same distance apart,
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and he's meticulous about it,
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shoes in plastic containers.
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I've never seen
ties hung so neatly,
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almost color coordinated.
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He is impeccably organized,
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neat, and it's just
sort of the way
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he is with all his stuff.
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I'm certainly a neatnik,
fussy, uh, regimented.
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It's just a, a, a way of,
I think, imposing order
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on a chaotic world.
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Um, and, and so I'm going to put
myself in the category of...
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...definitely hyper-regimented,
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but not, uh,
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you know, to, to the point of...
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Uh, what's the word
I'm searching for?
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-Dysfunction?
-Yeah.
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I knew there was
something off about me.
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I was a very depressed teenager.
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I knew that that wasn't normal.
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And I was looking
for solutions for myself.
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Yeah, I, I've had a lifelong
struggle with mental illness.
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And Jonah, certainly,
has inherited
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some of my brain chemistry.
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He's gotta d-- deal
with his dad,
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who has major anxiety
issues himself, so...
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...it's a challenge
for the poor kid, you know?
401
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Because I'm, I have problems
and I can't--
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I try to remember back
to when I was a kid.
403
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And when he is having a bad day,
404
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I feel like
it was much more intense
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than anything
I experienced at his age.
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So if a parent hasn't coped
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00:22:08,912 --> 00:22:10,663
with their own
mental health concerns,
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00:22:10,830 --> 00:22:15,168
it makes it very difficult
for them to be able
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to try and address
a child's concerns.
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00:22:18,963 --> 00:22:22,092
Kids are always
going to need you,
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and when you don't
have the resources
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to just be present
and to kind of manage
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your own experiences
and your own thoughts,
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it makes it incredibly difficult
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to take care of somebody else.
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I thought I would just show
you guys some of my,
um, pictures,
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uh, from when I was growing up,
so I'll just turn the camera.
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My mom, dad, and I.
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I think with my anxiety,
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it's a bit of a mixture
of nature and nurture.
421
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It's hard to tell,
you know, the exact balance,
422
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but I think given
that my mom and my grandmother,
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and probably her mother
have all suffered from anxiety,
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that there's definitely
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a strong genetic
component to it.
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But I think
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the, uh, nurture part of it
is also a huge role.
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This is my parents'
wedding photo.
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I keep this in my scrapbook
'cause, I mean,
430
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they're divorced now,
so I don't, I don't think
431
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either one of them wanted
this picture anymore,
432
00:23:38,877 --> 00:23:40,003
but I, I keep it.
433
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:42,964
Yeah, so my parents were,
you know,
434
00:23:43,131 --> 00:23:45,133
were fighting a lot,
ended up getting a divorce.
435
00:23:46,551 --> 00:23:48,678
I think it made me
grow up very quickly.
436
00:23:48,845 --> 00:23:50,263
I kind of felt
like I was taking care
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00:23:50,430 --> 00:23:52,807
of my sister and making
sure she was okay.
438
00:23:52,974 --> 00:23:54,893
I'm very protective over her.
439
00:23:55,769 --> 00:23:59,981
I think my parents kind
of look to me to, you know--
440
00:24:00,148 --> 00:24:02,567
it's like, "What does
your sister want to eat?"
441
00:24:02,734 --> 00:24:04,486
You know, "How is she feeling?"
They look to me
442
00:24:04,694 --> 00:24:07,072
to kind of give those updates,
443
00:24:07,822 --> 00:24:09,407
and that can also be
really stressful.
444
00:24:12,994 --> 00:24:15,121
You know, my mom
and my dad didn't know
445
00:24:15,288 --> 00:24:16,790
how to deal with my anxiety.
446
00:24:18,500 --> 00:24:19,501
They'd say, you know,
"It's all in your head.
447
00:24:19,709 --> 00:24:20,710
It's fine."
448
00:24:22,462 --> 00:24:24,714
And I think
that caused a lot of loneliness
449
00:24:24,881 --> 00:24:26,800
because I was
feeling these things,
450
00:24:26,966 --> 00:24:29,803
but I didn't have a name
to put on it at the time.
451
00:24:32,514 --> 00:24:34,474
So I kind of-- I was like,
"Something's wrong with me,
452
00:24:34,683 --> 00:24:36,267
but I don't know what it is,
453
00:24:36,434 --> 00:24:39,270
and I don't know if I'll get
any help anytime soon."
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On average,
depending on the diagnosis,
455
00:24:48,947 --> 00:24:52,534
parents wait anywhere
from two to eight years
456
00:24:53,326 --> 00:24:55,704
from the onset
of symptoms till they go
457
00:24:55,870 --> 00:24:57,497
to a mental health professional.
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00:24:58,707 --> 00:25:00,917
The reason I find
that so chilling
459
00:25:01,084 --> 00:25:04,045
is that we treat everything
else with more seriousness,
460
00:25:04,212 --> 00:25:05,964
with, with more respect.
461
00:25:08,466 --> 00:25:11,636
If someone gets a rash,
by the time I'm done speaking,
462
00:25:11,803 --> 00:25:14,472
they've gone to the drugstore
to get some cortisone.
463
00:25:14,681 --> 00:25:17,267
And if it's not gone
in two days,
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00:25:17,434 --> 00:25:19,394
within two weeks, they're
in a dermatologist's office.
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00:25:19,561 --> 00:25:22,272
And yet we do not give
the same concern
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00:25:22,439 --> 00:25:23,773
to our children's mental health.
467
00:25:27,569 --> 00:25:30,488
It's also something
that you can't physically see.
468
00:25:31,072 --> 00:25:33,700
It's like a broken bone,
there on display.
469
00:25:33,867 --> 00:25:35,702
Everyone can see it.
470
00:25:36,578 --> 00:25:39,706
Because it's something that
not everybody is experiencing,
471
00:25:39,873 --> 00:25:43,918
it's very easy to chalk it up
to just kind of being weak.
472
00:25:44,085 --> 00:25:46,087
There's been so much shame
473
00:25:46,254 --> 00:25:49,883
around any sort
of mental "ill health"
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00:25:50,050 --> 00:25:52,385
that families have
typically suppressed it.
475
00:25:52,552 --> 00:25:55,180
And that's why
I think in today's generation,
476
00:25:55,347 --> 00:25:58,600
we're seeing it more clearly,
but it's always been there.
477
00:26:02,020 --> 00:26:04,564
I've observed anxiety
in my parents, definitely.
478
00:26:07,192 --> 00:26:09,569
It's not something that
everyone's really comfortable
479
00:26:09,778 --> 00:26:10,612
talking about.
480
00:26:12,072 --> 00:26:13,073
It's a different generation.
481
00:26:13,239 --> 00:26:14,741
There's not as much willingness
482
00:26:14,908 --> 00:26:16,951
to talk about that it's okay,
483
00:26:17,118 --> 00:26:18,745
that we shouldn't
have it stigmatized,
484
00:26:18,912 --> 00:26:20,622
so it's kind of
a little embarrassing.
485
00:26:20,830 --> 00:26:24,376
It's also very difficult
for parents to identify...
486
00:26:25,377 --> 00:26:28,296
...um, problems
within their child
487
00:26:28,463 --> 00:26:32,050
if they're having
so much difficulty themselves.
488
00:26:32,217 --> 00:26:35,512
I think that, potentially,
they may have blinders on.
489
00:26:36,346 --> 00:26:38,014
I'm here in Cooper's room.
490
00:26:38,807 --> 00:26:41,643
With Cooper's OCD,
she wants everything
491
00:26:41,851 --> 00:26:44,437
to be really symmetrical,
which I totally get.
492
00:26:44,604 --> 00:26:47,482
So when we're making her bed...
493
00:26:47,649 --> 00:26:49,109
Um, and this is
kind of a new thing.
494
00:26:49,275 --> 00:26:51,861
She didn't really care
too much about this,
495
00:26:52,028 --> 00:26:54,114
um, but recently,
it's, it's a thing.
496
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:58,535
So I have to fold each side,
and she wants to know
497
00:26:58,743 --> 00:27:02,580
that each side of the bed
is tucked in really tightly.
498
00:27:03,289 --> 00:27:06,418
So I go to the other side,
and I do the same thing.
499
00:27:07,502 --> 00:27:11,089
I talk a lot about anxiety
as the cult leader.
500
00:27:11,256 --> 00:27:12,757
The cult leader
501
00:27:12,924 --> 00:27:14,634
says, "These are the rules
we're gonna follow."
502
00:27:14,843 --> 00:27:18,346
Families listen because they
just gotta get through the day.
503
00:27:18,513 --> 00:27:20,348
So you gotta get to your job.
504
00:27:20,515 --> 00:27:23,059
You want your kid
to sleep in his own bed.
505
00:27:23,226 --> 00:27:24,769
You want them to go to school.
506
00:27:24,936 --> 00:27:27,230
You don't want
the chaos that happens
507
00:27:27,397 --> 00:27:28,606
when you disobey
the cult leader.
508
00:27:29,399 --> 00:27:31,693
So you start listening
to the cult leader.
509
00:27:32,652 --> 00:27:34,988
And the problem is,
is that the more you listen
510
00:27:35,155 --> 00:27:37,323
to the cult leader,
the stronger this thing gets.
511
00:27:37,490 --> 00:27:38,908
That's how cult leaders work.
512
00:27:39,075 --> 00:27:41,036
So people become beholden,
513
00:27:41,202 --> 00:27:42,328
and they will say,
514
00:27:42,495 --> 00:27:44,914
"Oh, everything's going great."
515
00:27:45,081 --> 00:27:46,833
So people will come to see me,
and I'll say,
516
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:48,293
"Well, what have you learned
517
00:27:48,460 --> 00:27:50,503
about managing anxiety
in your family?"
518
00:27:50,670 --> 00:27:53,673
"Well, as long as we,
fill in the blank."
519
00:27:54,257 --> 00:27:56,176
Like, if I were
to leave the bed like this...
520
00:27:56,343 --> 00:27:58,595
I don't know if you can see it,
but it's just uneven
521
00:27:58,803 --> 00:28:01,848
and not tucked tightly enough,
522
00:28:02,015 --> 00:28:05,477
she would not be happy,
so I have to take it down,
523
00:28:06,269 --> 00:28:07,520
tuck it in,
524
00:28:07,687 --> 00:28:10,231
and if it's not tucked
on both sides,
525
00:28:10,732 --> 00:28:14,152
she really can't go to sleep,
526
00:28:14,319 --> 00:28:20,158
and it just causes her,
um, some anxiety,
527
00:28:20,325 --> 00:28:21,868
and it causes her to have to do
528
00:28:22,035 --> 00:28:24,245
another fixing
of the bed before.
529
00:28:24,412 --> 00:28:25,663
So I'm happy to do it,
530
00:28:25,872 --> 00:28:27,624
and it only takes a few minutes.
531
00:28:30,293 --> 00:28:33,004
As long as we put
the cult leader in charge,
532
00:28:33,171 --> 00:28:35,548
as long as everybody
falls in line,
533
00:28:35,715 --> 00:28:37,092
things will go great.
534
00:28:37,634 --> 00:28:40,011
The problem is,
how do you pull that off?
535
00:28:40,512 --> 00:28:41,846
Worlds get smaller.
536
00:28:42,013 --> 00:28:44,265
I've had kids where the child
537
00:28:44,432 --> 00:28:45,725
determines what restaurant
538
00:28:45,934 --> 00:28:47,435
the family is allowed to eat at,
539
00:28:47,602 --> 00:28:49,020
that the child determines
540
00:28:49,187 --> 00:28:50,438
the parents have to go to bed
541
00:28:50,605 --> 00:28:52,399
at the same time as the child,
542
00:28:52,565 --> 00:28:54,943
nobody's allowed to be
in certain rooms of the house.
543
00:28:55,110 --> 00:28:56,653
And they're not
doing it on purpose,
544
00:28:56,861 --> 00:28:58,697
and they're not
trying to be controlling,
545
00:28:59,322 --> 00:29:02,409
but the cult leader says,
"Listen to what I'm saying,
546
00:29:02,575 --> 00:29:04,411
or there's going to be
a price to pay."
547
00:29:04,577 --> 00:29:06,705
And they don't want
to pay the price,
understandably,
548
00:29:07,372 --> 00:29:08,998
and it gets stronger
and stronger,
549
00:29:09,165 --> 00:29:10,542
and you start avoiding more.
550
00:29:10,709 --> 00:29:12,711
You start changing
your routines.
551
00:29:12,919 --> 00:29:15,296
You start demanding
of other people
552
00:29:15,463 --> 00:29:17,507
that they follow
your cult leader too.
553
00:29:18,258 --> 00:29:20,719
And pretty soon the anxiety
is what is determining
554
00:29:20,927 --> 00:29:23,888
what everybody does
and what everybody experiences.
555
00:29:24,055 --> 00:29:24,973
And it happens fast.
556
00:29:26,933 --> 00:29:29,894
There was a day
in particular when I went
557
00:29:30,061 --> 00:29:32,647
to school with Noah to sit
in the classroom with Noah,
558
00:29:32,814 --> 00:29:34,733
just to reassure him.
559
00:29:34,941 --> 00:29:36,401
Just watched him,
occasionally would go over,
560
00:29:36,568 --> 00:29:40,030
and kind of rub his neck,
and say, "Th-- It's okay."
561
00:29:40,196 --> 00:29:42,949
And, um, all the while,
we were sort of building
562
00:29:43,116 --> 00:29:46,369
on team worry, you know,
building on his anxiety.
563
00:29:48,455 --> 00:29:50,331
Are you working
to create certainty
564
00:29:50,498 --> 00:29:52,250
and to create comfort
565
00:29:52,417 --> 00:29:54,377
in the absence
of skill building?
566
00:29:54,961 --> 00:29:58,214
So an example of that may be,
so you've got a, a, a child
567
00:29:58,381 --> 00:30:01,051
who's having
difficulty going into school.
568
00:30:01,217 --> 00:30:03,261
So the school
and the parents work together,
569
00:30:03,428 --> 00:30:05,347
and they come up with a plan
570
00:30:05,513 --> 00:30:08,058
that everything
goes in a certain order.
571
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:10,101
The backfield
shifts to the right,
572
00:30:10,268 --> 00:30:12,771
the right end takes
a defensive tackle in...
573
00:30:12,979 --> 00:30:15,231
So everybody works
really hard to make sure
574
00:30:15,398 --> 00:30:17,734
that everything goes as planned.
575
00:30:17,942 --> 00:30:21,154
The anxiety disorder says,
"This is exactly what I need."
576
00:30:21,321 --> 00:30:24,407
The more you do the disorder,
the stronger it gets.
577
00:30:24,574 --> 00:30:27,035
The more that everybody
steps in to make sure
578
00:30:27,202 --> 00:30:29,287
that anxiety gets what it wants,
579
00:30:29,454 --> 00:30:31,164
the stronger this thing gets.
580
00:30:31,331 --> 00:30:32,999
So I use
that phrase all the time,
581
00:30:33,166 --> 00:30:34,292
"Are you doing the disorder?"
582
00:30:34,876 --> 00:30:37,545
I remember feeling
better for that day,
583
00:30:37,712 --> 00:30:40,548
but then I don't think
there was a long-term plan
584
00:30:40,715 --> 00:30:44,594
in effect there
because he couldn't come
to school with me every day.
585
00:30:44,761 --> 00:30:46,846
So I felt better for one day
and then went right back
586
00:30:47,055 --> 00:30:48,264
to the same routine
the next one.
587
00:30:57,691 --> 00:30:59,025
And then there are parents
588
00:30:59,192 --> 00:31:01,403
who have
the tough love approach.
589
00:31:01,569 --> 00:31:03,571
Basically, what
they're saying to me is that,
590
00:31:03,738 --> 00:31:05,490
"We're working
for the cult leader,
591
00:31:05,657 --> 00:31:08,034
and it's not working because
the problem's getting worse."
592
00:31:08,493 --> 00:31:10,370
So they're not totally off base,
593
00:31:10,537 --> 00:31:14,207
but the tough love approach
is simply based on a lack
594
00:31:14,374 --> 00:31:20,088
of understanding and a lack
of, um, talking about skills.
595
00:31:20,255 --> 00:31:22,924
They just don't know
what to do instead,
596
00:31:23,133 --> 00:31:25,385
so they move far
in the other direction.
597
00:31:26,094 --> 00:31:29,097
What happens with families
when you've got one
598
00:31:29,264 --> 00:31:31,808
that believes in tough love
and one that's working
599
00:31:32,017 --> 00:31:35,103
for the cult leader is
they stake out their territory,
600
00:31:35,270 --> 00:31:37,522
and then they get farther
and farther apart.
601
00:31:37,689 --> 00:31:39,441
The more-- The parent says,
602
00:31:39,607 --> 00:31:42,068
"The more
that you do tough love,
603
00:31:42,235 --> 00:31:44,362
the more I'm gonna
compensate over here."
604
00:31:44,529 --> 00:31:46,364
"The more that you work
for the cult leader,
605
00:31:46,531 --> 00:31:48,783
the more that I'm going
to resist that."
606
00:31:48,950 --> 00:31:51,036
So we need to pull them together
607
00:31:51,202 --> 00:31:53,329
so that we're talking
about skill building.
608
00:32:03,506 --> 00:32:05,300
Okay, get off. We're gonna ride.
609
00:32:06,926 --> 00:32:08,678
Excellent, Noah!
610
00:32:09,929 --> 00:32:14,559
Anxiety doesn't have
a lot of tricks in its toolbox.
611
00:32:14,726 --> 00:32:18,938
It does the same thing over,
and over, and over again.
612
00:32:19,147 --> 00:32:20,565
It shows up, and it says...
613
00:32:20,732 --> 00:32:22,317
"
What if?"
614
00:32:22,484 --> 00:32:25,570
And you start imagining
bad things happening.
615
00:32:25,737 --> 00:32:28,281
You start imagining
these bad things happening.
616
00:32:29,074 --> 00:32:31,826
You are playing
a little movie in your head.
617
00:32:32,494 --> 00:32:34,829
Your alarm system,
your amygdala,
618
00:32:34,996 --> 00:32:37,791
your body responds
to this narrative
619
00:32:37,957 --> 00:32:40,460
as if you are in danger.
620
00:32:41,252 --> 00:32:43,838
It fires up the system
through your adrenal glands.
621
00:32:44,005 --> 00:32:46,424
It gets your body going,
fills you
622
00:32:46,591 --> 00:32:50,387
with all of the chemicals, the,
the, the, the norepinephrine,
623
00:32:50,553 --> 00:32:52,180
the epinephrine,
that are designed
624
00:32:52,347 --> 00:32:55,350
to get your body going
for fight or flight,
625
00:32:55,517 --> 00:32:56,685
and sometimes freeze.
626
00:32:58,812 --> 00:33:00,271
If in that moment, you say...
627
00:33:00,438 --> 00:33:02,023
" What's going on?
Oh, my God,
628
00:33:02,232 --> 00:33:03,525
it's happening again.
I've got to get out of here.
629
00:33:03,692 --> 00:33:04,984
I've got to get rid
of these feelings.
630
00:33:05,193 --> 00:33:06,111
I've got to get rid
of these thoughts.
631
00:33:06,277 --> 00:33:07,487
I can't stand this."
632
00:33:07,654 --> 00:33:09,489
You are doing the disorder.
633
00:33:09,656 --> 00:33:11,741
What happens
if we begin to recognize it
634
00:33:11,908 --> 00:33:12,909
when it shows up?
635
00:33:13,118 --> 00:33:15,912
So a huge skill is being able
636
00:33:16,121 --> 00:33:18,832
to step into the situation,
637
00:33:18,998 --> 00:33:21,960
have that response,
and know what to do with it.
638
00:33:22,168 --> 00:33:24,421
So we want to name it.
We want to normalize it.
639
00:33:28,425 --> 00:33:30,301
We want to say, okay,
so worry is named Fred.
640
00:33:34,264 --> 00:33:36,474
When Fred shows up,
this is what Fred says,
641
00:33:36,641 --> 00:33:37,642
this is what Fred demands...
642
00:33:39,185 --> 00:33:41,730
...and this is how
we're gonna respond to Fred.
643
00:33:49,654 --> 00:33:51,364
How do we help them recognize
644
00:33:51,531 --> 00:33:54,909
the thoughts, the emotions,
the sensations show up?
645
00:33:55,493 --> 00:33:58,538
That's very empowering
because now we're talking
646
00:33:58,705 --> 00:34:01,916
about how this thing works
rather than trying
647
00:34:02,083 --> 00:34:04,544
to rearrange the world
in order to accommodate it.
648
00:34:05,170 --> 00:34:09,049
When I was younger, I think
that I just didn't understand
that I could get through it.
649
00:34:11,301 --> 00:34:13,261
It was just something
that was completely
650
00:34:13,428 --> 00:34:15,305
just out of reach for me.
651
00:34:17,932 --> 00:34:19,809
We felt that the message
we were sending was,
652
00:34:19,976 --> 00:34:21,061
"We love you. We care for you.
653
00:34:21,269 --> 00:34:22,896
We'll always be there for you."
654
00:34:23,063 --> 00:34:24,689
When in fact, it was more,
655
00:34:24,856 --> 00:34:26,524
"We don't think
you can handle this."
656
00:34:26,691 --> 00:34:28,610
I think that's probably
the message that was received,
657
00:34:29,319 --> 00:34:32,072
that, you know, somewhere
in the back of his mind was,
658
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:33,865
"Oh, I can't-- They don't
believe I can handle this.
659
00:34:34,032 --> 00:34:35,367
I probably can't handle this."
660
00:34:36,076 --> 00:34:38,953
That's a lot of stairs
for a little guy.
661
00:34:41,581 --> 00:34:42,749
If we don't pay attention
662
00:34:42,916 --> 00:34:45,377
to how our
"caring for our children"
663
00:34:45,543 --> 00:34:47,420
is really a mask
of our own anxiety,
664
00:34:47,587 --> 00:34:50,548
then we'll keep doing it
and keep blaming,
665
00:34:50,715 --> 00:34:52,884
and fixing,
and contouring our children,
666
00:34:53,051 --> 00:34:56,513
puppeteering them into greater
and greater inner disconnection
667
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:58,223
and not even realize
that we are.
668
00:34:58,765 --> 00:35:00,684
And in doing so,
the child grows up
669
00:35:00,850 --> 00:35:03,853
kind of feeling disconnected
to who it is they are.
670
00:35:04,020 --> 00:35:05,814
They have to meet
the needs of the parent
671
00:35:05,980 --> 00:35:07,357
versus meet their own needs.
672
00:35:07,524 --> 00:35:10,485
My dad, uh, has been
in the military
673
00:35:10,652 --> 00:35:13,029
for 40 plus years.
674
00:35:13,238 --> 00:35:14,322
He recently retired.
675
00:35:15,573 --> 00:35:18,910
I think
that that kind of gave him
676
00:35:19,077 --> 00:35:23,415
a more hardened outlook
and perception of life.
677
00:35:24,290 --> 00:35:28,044
He's very much a "my way
or the highway" kind of person.
678
00:35:30,714 --> 00:35:33,550
He doesn't take
into account that the world
679
00:35:33,717 --> 00:35:35,427
that he grew up in and the world
680
00:35:35,593 --> 00:35:38,388
that I'm in now are
two different places.
681
00:35:39,723 --> 00:35:42,017
I mean, I'm not out to him.
682
00:35:43,893 --> 00:35:47,063
As far as he knows,
I am your typical straight,
683
00:35:47,272 --> 00:35:51,484
white conservative,
like, red-blooded American.
684
00:35:52,861 --> 00:35:55,071
But the truth is, I'm everything
685
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:58,408
that he rails
against on the daily.
686
00:36:00,493 --> 00:36:02,162
He's not doing any of this
because he hates me.
687
00:36:02,370 --> 00:36:04,456
He's not doing any of this
because he has any malice,
688
00:36:04,622 --> 00:36:05,707
any ill-intent.
689
00:36:06,624 --> 00:36:10,420
I genuinely feel that he wants
what's best for me,
690
00:36:11,296 --> 00:36:16,134
it's just what he thinks
is best for me is not me.
691
00:36:17,927 --> 00:36:20,180
There was the conversation of,
like, "Oh, like,
692
00:36:20,388 --> 00:36:23,099
if Karl were
to come out as gay one day,
693
00:36:23,308 --> 00:36:25,435
like, could you love him?"
694
00:36:25,602 --> 00:36:27,687
And like, obviously,
my mom was immediately
695
00:36:27,854 --> 00:36:30,440
just like, "Well, duh."
Like, "That's my child."
696
00:36:31,399 --> 00:36:34,527
But the words that ring
in my head was from my dad
697
00:36:34,694 --> 00:36:36,529
saying, "I don't know."
698
00:36:40,116 --> 00:36:41,034
Those three words.
699
00:36:44,579 --> 00:36:45,580
And honestly...
700
00:36:47,999 --> 00:36:49,459
I, I, I honestly
would have preferred
701
00:36:49,626 --> 00:36:50,669
if he had just said no.
702
00:36:57,342 --> 00:37:00,804
When a child is not allowed
to discover who they are,
703
00:37:00,970 --> 00:37:03,682
is not allowed
to develop autonomy,
704
00:37:03,848 --> 00:37:07,018
figure out their own identity,
their own choices,
705
00:37:07,185 --> 00:37:10,271
the likelihood
of that young person
706
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:13,775
developing an anxiety disorder
is pretty significant.
707
00:37:18,113 --> 00:37:21,658
My quote
in my high school yearbook was,
708
00:37:22,534 --> 00:37:24,536
"To hear the applause."
709
00:37:24,703 --> 00:37:27,539
That's what I dreamed of
when I graduated high school.
710
00:37:28,456 --> 00:37:31,292
I love being
the center of attention.
You get that from me.
711
00:37:31,501 --> 00:37:33,628
You know,
it says a lot about me,
712
00:37:33,795 --> 00:37:36,965
and I, I get that you have
a lot of that in you.
713
00:37:37,132 --> 00:37:40,093
But I'm telling you,
I'm always proud of you.
714
00:37:40,260 --> 00:37:42,512
I think you do a lot
of things that make me proud.
715
00:37:42,679 --> 00:37:46,057
I think you try your hardest.
716
00:37:48,518 --> 00:37:50,311
-That makes us proud.
-Okay.
717
00:37:51,396 --> 00:37:53,273
Yeah, I just don't know.
I mean, I just--
718
00:37:53,815 --> 00:37:55,483
I don't know, like, what I do.
719
00:37:55,650 --> 00:37:58,236
When are you proud of me?
720
00:37:58,820 --> 00:38:00,697
When you're not mean.
721
00:38:00,864 --> 00:38:03,199
-That's not fair!
-I'm kidding, I'm kidding.
722
00:38:03,408 --> 00:38:05,535
-Um...
-What do you mean "mean"?
723
00:38:05,702 --> 00:38:07,412
When I'm scared of you.
724
00:38:07,579 --> 00:38:08,830
Are you really
ever scared of me?
725
00:38:08,997 --> 00:38:11,624
Well, sometimes,
I'm afraid you'll get mad.
726
00:38:12,292 --> 00:38:16,463
Like, when I did bad
on that audition,
727
00:38:16,629 --> 00:38:17,714
you were just like,
728
00:38:18,631 --> 00:38:20,216
"Cooper, I'm done.
729
00:38:20,425 --> 00:38:21,468
-Yeah.
-I'm sick of it."
730
00:38:21,634 --> 00:38:23,219
Like, you just-- and it, it--
731
00:38:23,428 --> 00:38:26,806
Well, I, I think I lose
my temper more easily because...
732
00:38:28,016 --> 00:38:30,310
Especially when it comes
to singing,
733
00:38:30,518 --> 00:38:32,270
I know what you're capable of.
734
00:38:33,605 --> 00:38:36,608
I think-- Well,
I think a couple things happen.
735
00:38:36,775 --> 00:38:39,027
I worry
that it's a reflection on me.
736
00:38:41,279 --> 00:38:43,365
I also kind of feel that
737
00:38:43,573 --> 00:38:45,700
I would nail every audition.
738
00:38:45,867 --> 00:38:47,660
They seem really easy to me,
739
00:38:48,161 --> 00:38:52,248
so I don't understand
why you can't nail them.
740
00:38:52,457 --> 00:38:54,000
Like, that's-- I mean, I'm--
741
00:38:54,167 --> 00:38:56,670
I, I sound crazy admitting it,
but I'm like,
742
00:38:56,836 --> 00:38:59,839
-"Why can't you say this line
the way it's meant to be said?"
743
00:39:00,006 --> 00:39:02,258
You know what made me
so angry about that one, Cooper?
744
00:39:02,467 --> 00:39:06,221
Here I am spending all the time,
745
00:39:06,388 --> 00:39:08,306
and the energy,
746
00:39:08,515 --> 00:39:11,601
and the financial commitment
on therapy and this,
747
00:39:11,768 --> 00:39:13,937
and I'm like, "Oh, my gosh!
748
00:39:14,104 --> 00:39:16,606
Like, you let your anxiety win."
749
00:39:16,773 --> 00:39:18,400
I just want you
to have that confidence.
750
00:39:18,608 --> 00:39:23,363
And I didn't have it,
but I realize how so much
751
00:39:23,571 --> 00:39:26,991
of the anxiety I had
over being judged
752
00:39:27,158 --> 00:39:29,703
at an audition
really held me back.
753
00:39:29,869 --> 00:39:32,330
If I could audition--
if I had an agent right now,
754
00:39:33,164 --> 00:39:35,583
and I could go back and audition
755
00:39:35,750 --> 00:39:38,169
for everything
I auditioned for--
756
00:39:38,336 --> 00:39:41,589
-I'd do it differently.
-No, no, no,
I would be booking every job.
757
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,930
Kids can develop just
kind of a sense of inadequacy,
758
00:39:49,097 --> 00:39:52,892
of never being able
to meet that standard
759
00:39:53,059 --> 00:39:54,853
that parents have set for them,
760
00:39:55,020 --> 00:39:56,980
as well as it can also impact
761
00:39:57,147 --> 00:39:59,107
just their own
personal identity...
762
00:40:00,150 --> 00:40:04,029
...because they're not
being given the chance
763
00:40:04,195 --> 00:40:07,365
of developing that sense
of self and who they are,
764
00:40:08,116 --> 00:40:10,660
and they're becoming
heavily reliant
765
00:40:10,827 --> 00:40:13,663
on just becoming the person that
somebody else wants them to be.
766
00:40:15,540 --> 00:40:17,375
Tell me about
some of those pressures
767
00:40:17,584 --> 00:40:21,046
that, that are, um, coming
at you so quickly.
768
00:40:22,714 --> 00:40:26,009
Um, well, parental pressures.
769
00:40:27,886 --> 00:40:28,762
To do what?
770
00:40:29,679 --> 00:40:34,559
Just to be good and, like,
kind of act like an adult,
771
00:40:34,726 --> 00:40:37,354
even though I'm not,
um, an adult yet.
772
00:40:37,562 --> 00:40:40,357
This is so stupid.
773
00:40:40,565 --> 00:40:43,234
It's put me
into the wrong mindset!
774
00:40:43,401 --> 00:40:46,029
Okay, honey,
tell me what I can do
775
00:40:46,196 --> 00:40:48,156
to help you get
into the right mindset.
776
00:40:48,323 --> 00:40:52,035
You just put a whole 'nother
layer of stress on me here!
777
00:40:55,372 --> 00:40:56,998
And it just messed me all up.
778
00:40:57,665 --> 00:40:59,292
Please don't.
779
00:40:59,459 --> 00:41:00,627
There were
so many things I thought
780
00:41:00,794 --> 00:41:02,170
I was doing as a good parent
781
00:41:02,337 --> 00:41:04,589
that just made
Sevey's anxieties worse.
782
00:41:05,382 --> 00:41:07,634
- Please!
-I don't always know
the right thing to do
783
00:41:07,801 --> 00:41:10,345
because I don't know
what anxiety feels like for her.
784
00:41:11,596 --> 00:41:13,098
Take a deep breath. Look at Mom.
785
00:41:13,765 --> 00:41:15,183
Take a deep breath.
786
00:41:15,350 --> 00:41:17,435
My empathy for Sevey
is significant,
787
00:41:17,644 --> 00:41:19,229
but I've never
walked in her shoes.
788
00:41:19,771 --> 00:41:21,314
And now that she's 13,
789
00:41:21,481 --> 00:41:23,274
what makes her anxious
has changed,
790
00:41:23,441 --> 00:41:25,819
and it's become even
more difficult to navigate.
791
00:41:26,778 --> 00:41:29,072
Feeling
like I'm gonna disappoint
792
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:30,824
makes me very anxious.
793
00:41:31,991 --> 00:41:36,454
Having my mom being mad at me
is-- makes me anxious.
794
00:41:37,455 --> 00:41:40,333
Having one of my friends being
mad at me makes me anxious.
795
00:41:41,042 --> 00:41:42,127
If you look at it,
it's interesting,
796
00:41:42,293 --> 00:41:43,837
developmentally, the things
797
00:41:44,004 --> 00:41:45,630
that kids become aware of
798
00:41:45,797 --> 00:41:48,425
are the things
that worry then grabs on to.
799
00:41:48,633 --> 00:41:52,512
So middle school kids will be
worried about social stuff.
800
00:41:52,721 --> 00:41:54,556
They start worrying
about achievement.
801
00:41:54,764 --> 00:41:57,142
They start worrying
about how are they gonna live
802
00:41:57,308 --> 00:41:58,393
separate from their parents.
803
00:42:00,228 --> 00:42:02,564
As a child
leaves elementary school
804
00:42:02,772 --> 00:42:04,649
and moves into middle school,
the first thing
805
00:42:04,816 --> 00:42:07,819
that generally happens
is a remodeling of the brain
806
00:42:07,986 --> 00:42:10,030
and how an adolescent
experiences life.
807
00:42:13,450 --> 00:42:15,368
There's more
intense emotions that happen.
808
00:42:21,166 --> 00:42:23,835
It can get overwhelming.
Your emotions get so big.
809
00:42:25,295 --> 00:42:27,005
Then there's social engagement.
810
00:42:27,172 --> 00:42:31,718
For this adolescent to survive,
she must have belonging
811
00:42:31,885 --> 00:42:33,720
to at least one
other adolescent.
812
00:42:33,887 --> 00:42:37,557
That's been true for many,
many mammals,
813
00:42:37,766 --> 00:42:40,935
where you see that if you
don't have an association
814
00:42:41,102 --> 00:42:43,396
with other adolescents,
you will die,
815
00:42:44,064 --> 00:42:45,482
you will be somebody's lunch.
816
00:42:46,149 --> 00:42:49,027
So the reason your adolescent
says, "Oh, my God,
817
00:42:49,194 --> 00:42:50,695
I need to have
that kind of boot,"
818
00:42:50,862 --> 00:42:52,197
or that kind of shoe,
or that kind of jacket,
819
00:42:52,364 --> 00:42:53,907
or whatever, you know,
820
00:42:54,074 --> 00:42:55,992
they're not just
being superficial,
821
00:42:56,159 --> 00:42:57,619
they have
an evolutionary history
822
00:42:57,827 --> 00:42:59,829
to wanting to be
socially connected.
823
00:43:01,498 --> 00:43:04,292
Belonging, for the mind,
824
00:43:04,918 --> 00:43:06,753
is like breathing for the body.
825
00:43:10,131 --> 00:43:11,966
I remember in middle school,
826
00:43:12,133 --> 00:43:15,720
that was even rougher
than elementary school for me.
827
00:43:17,180 --> 00:43:18,556
I grew up in South Florida,
828
00:43:18,765 --> 00:43:20,433
very predominantly white areas,
829
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:22,560
you know,
went to a private school
830
00:43:22,769 --> 00:43:24,396
from kindergarten
through fifth grade,
831
00:43:24,562 --> 00:43:26,815
where I was literally,
not exaggerating,
832
00:43:26,981 --> 00:43:28,441
one of like three
or four Black kids
833
00:43:28,608 --> 00:43:29,859
in the entire school.
834
00:43:30,860 --> 00:43:32,445
I don't know.
I just wasn't myself.
835
00:43:32,612 --> 00:43:34,531
I don't think
I was my best self then
836
00:43:34,739 --> 00:43:37,242
because I was
so anxious all the time
837
00:43:37,409 --> 00:43:39,327
and hiding that part of me.
838
00:43:39,494 --> 00:43:40,745
When I was around 14,
839
00:43:40,912 --> 00:43:43,206
I felt like I was being bullied,
840
00:43:43,373 --> 00:43:47,168
and it was really hard for me.
I couldn't, I couldn't
really understand why
841
00:43:47,877 --> 00:43:50,213
not everyone would like me.
Like, for some reason,
I just had to have everybody
842
00:43:50,380 --> 00:43:51,673
like me and everybody
be cool with me.
843
00:43:51,881 --> 00:43:53,550
And I just remember trying to do
844
00:43:53,758 --> 00:43:56,302
everything I could
to get people to like me.
845
00:43:56,469 --> 00:44:00,223
And I just remember my mind,
like, almost tricking me
846
00:44:00,390 --> 00:44:02,767
and being like, "Oh, yeah, like,
you weren't invited to that
because they don't like you,"
847
00:44:02,934 --> 00:44:04,602
or, "Oh, you're being annoying,"
or, "Oh, you need to calm down,"
848
00:44:04,811 --> 00:44:07,188
or "You're doing too much," or--
And it was just back and forth
849
00:44:07,355 --> 00:44:10,817
and back and forth,
and I just remember that's
when I really started, like,
850
00:44:10,984 --> 00:44:13,820
having days
where I'd just be home crying
851
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:15,780
and not exactly knowing why.
852
00:44:17,824 --> 00:44:19,242
Where I went to middle school,
853
00:44:19,409 --> 00:44:21,286
the typical thing
for people was like,
854
00:44:21,453 --> 00:44:25,123
"Oh, that's, that's gay," like,
calling people the F-slur.
855
00:44:25,790 --> 00:44:28,209
When your only real exposure
to it is the fact
856
00:44:28,376 --> 00:44:30,462
that everybody else
is using it as an insult,
857
00:44:31,421 --> 00:44:32,547
made me feel...
858
00:44:34,674 --> 00:44:36,343
...awful, subhuman.
859
00:44:40,096 --> 00:44:43,224
When it started really
conflicting with this idea
860
00:44:43,391 --> 00:44:44,434
of who I was...
861
00:44:45,977 --> 00:44:49,314
...you, you just shut down
completely and utterly.
862
00:44:51,191 --> 00:44:52,859
Your, your emotions
are heightened.
863
00:44:53,026 --> 00:44:57,280
Your, your, your, your physical
abilities are lowered.
864
00:44:59,074 --> 00:45:01,451
It, it, it just
gets overwhelming.
865
00:45:05,246 --> 00:45:06,998
This morning,
I woke up to my mom sending me
866
00:45:07,165 --> 00:45:08,708
a picture
of when I was in eighth grade.
867
00:45:09,751 --> 00:45:13,004
And it was interesting
because I, I wanted
868
00:45:13,171 --> 00:45:17,467
to cringe when I saw it,
and I was bigger.
869
00:45:17,634 --> 00:45:19,886
I was definitely at-- I'm 5'10".
870
00:45:20,053 --> 00:45:22,222
And I was probably like 5'8"
in eighth grade.
871
00:45:22,389 --> 00:45:24,641
And I remember
that moment where that's really
872
00:45:24,849 --> 00:45:26,768
when my depression
and anxiety started.
873
00:45:27,352 --> 00:45:30,355
The body image stuff is--
it probably is hard
874
00:45:30,522 --> 00:45:33,608
for a lot of people to kind
of grasp when you, uh,
875
00:45:33,775 --> 00:45:35,777
when you don't--
when you haven't felt it.
876
00:45:35,985 --> 00:45:37,445
It's kind of like a panic
attack in that way.
877
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:40,198
I remember feeling
878
00:45:40,365 --> 00:45:41,658
uncomfortable in my skin.
879
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:44,661
I remember the anxious thoughts.
880
00:45:45,328 --> 00:45:47,414
I remember feeling
like I just wasn't good enough,
881
00:45:48,081 --> 00:45:51,251
and that was weird for somebody
that's just about to be
13 years old.
882
00:45:53,294 --> 00:45:54,671
I've always just felt like,
883
00:45:55,171 --> 00:45:56,923
"Man, I need,
I need a little more."
884
00:45:57,090 --> 00:45:59,384
Like, "I need to, I need to be
a little more muscular,"
885
00:45:59,551 --> 00:46:01,136
or "I need--
I'm too skinny right now."
886
00:46:01,302 --> 00:46:03,388
And it's that, it's that
same negative self-talk,
887
00:46:03,555 --> 00:46:04,931
like, you're not good enough.
888
00:46:05,098 --> 00:46:07,392
When we don't allow
our children to own
889
00:46:07,559 --> 00:46:09,602
their authentic voice
and to feel comfortable
890
00:46:09,769 --> 00:46:11,021
in their own skin,
891
00:46:11,187 --> 00:46:13,690
then they grow up
constantly foraging,
892
00:46:13,898 --> 00:46:16,609
scavenging the Earth
for an inner sense of self,
893
00:46:16,776 --> 00:46:17,777
and they look outward.
894
00:46:18,903 --> 00:46:21,364
I sought external validation
because I feel like
895
00:46:21,531 --> 00:46:22,741
that's just what I was taught.
896
00:46:23,450 --> 00:46:25,368
I think we live
in a world now where you pick up
897
00:46:25,535 --> 00:46:26,619
your phone, it's Instagram,
898
00:46:26,786 --> 00:46:28,413
it's Twitter, it's TikTok.
899
00:46:28,580 --> 00:46:31,791
You're looking and comparing
yourself to everything.
900
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:34,836
And you also see
the way that people idolize
901
00:46:35,045 --> 00:46:39,007
those people that are "winning"
in this social media industry.
902
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:44,012
I downloaded TikTok, um,
903
00:46:44,179 --> 00:46:46,973
and I made a...
a couple of videos.
904
00:46:47,140 --> 00:46:49,768
I was just like, "Hey, it'd be
cool to get TikTok famous."
905
00:46:49,976 --> 00:46:52,103
And then I made, like,
three videos that week,
and they all blew up.
906
00:46:52,270 --> 00:46:56,441
So I really never expected
to get any followers
907
00:46:56,608 --> 00:46:57,859
or even grow as much as I did.
908
00:46:58,735 --> 00:47:03,698
Currently, I have about
280,000 followers, I think.
909
00:47:06,034 --> 00:47:07,535
There definitely is
a danger when it comes
910
00:47:07,702 --> 00:47:10,413
to spending a lot
of time on social media.
911
00:47:10,955 --> 00:47:12,749
It definitely has
the potential to become
912
00:47:12,957 --> 00:47:17,087
this environment
of judgment and pressure.
913
00:47:17,962 --> 00:47:19,214
I remember there
was one point in my life
914
00:47:19,381 --> 00:47:21,174
where I was just
on social media scrolling,
915
00:47:21,341 --> 00:47:22,842
and scrolling, and scrolling.
It, it just took a toll on me,
916
00:47:23,051 --> 00:47:24,344
and I was like, "Wow,
why can't I look like that?
917
00:47:24,511 --> 00:47:25,762
Why is, you know,
this going on?" Like,
918
00:47:25,970 --> 00:47:27,430
"I need to, like,
do better for myself."
919
00:47:27,597 --> 00:47:29,057
Now I'm just
comparing everything.
920
00:47:29,224 --> 00:47:30,600
I'm com-- comparing my body.
921
00:47:30,767 --> 00:47:33,144
I'm comparing
sometimes even my character.
922
00:47:33,311 --> 00:47:35,730
"I shouldn't have done this.
I've made too many mistakes.
923
00:47:35,897 --> 00:47:37,899
I regret this."
And all of a sudden, it's like,
924
00:47:38,108 --> 00:47:39,526
it's not even just
the way that I look.
925
00:47:39,693 --> 00:47:40,902
It's the way that I feel.
926
00:47:41,111 --> 00:47:42,696
It's the way
that I carry myself.
927
00:47:42,862 --> 00:47:46,491
I don't, um, walk straight.
I don't stand up straight.
928
00:47:46,658 --> 00:47:48,576
I don't do all
of these things that I see
929
00:47:48,743 --> 00:47:50,495
in, like, a really short clip.
930
00:47:52,622 --> 00:47:54,749
I got so incredibly
tough on myself
931
00:47:54,916 --> 00:47:57,711
about looking a certain way,
932
00:47:57,877 --> 00:48:00,422
like, basically looking
like an Instagram model,
933
00:48:01,006 --> 00:48:02,507
which is such
an unfair standard,
934
00:48:02,674 --> 00:48:04,801
but it's definitely
one of my biggest triggers
935
00:48:05,010 --> 00:48:05,927
right now.
936
00:48:07,220 --> 00:48:10,473
I will sadly look at myself
in the mirror and like say,
937
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:12,183
"Oh, my gosh,
you need to lose weight.
938
00:48:12,350 --> 00:48:14,352
You look too fat.
Your waist isn't perfect."
939
00:48:14,894 --> 00:48:16,396
Like, "How are you
gonna fit into that dress?
940
00:48:16,563 --> 00:48:18,314
How are you gonna fit
into that bathing suit?"
941
00:48:19,107 --> 00:48:21,317
And, like,
that's a normal activity for me.
942
00:48:21,484 --> 00:48:23,486
Like, it's sad to say,
but it is.
943
00:48:26,740 --> 00:48:29,743
I can't get away from the trap.
944
00:48:29,909 --> 00:48:34,581
Everything that, um,
I love is on my phone.
945
00:48:34,748 --> 00:48:36,332
How many hours
did I spend in my phone?
946
00:48:36,499 --> 00:48:38,376
Oh, my God,
yesterday, it was ten.
947
00:48:40,045 --> 00:48:42,088
To be able to post
on TikTok or to be able
948
00:48:42,255 --> 00:48:45,342
to post on Instagram
is super important to me,
949
00:48:45,508 --> 00:48:47,969
and the amount of followers
I have is important to me.
950
00:48:48,178 --> 00:48:49,721
Why am I losing followers?
951
00:48:49,888 --> 00:48:51,848
Do I not look good
in a certain picture?
952
00:48:52,057 --> 00:48:53,850
Do I need to change something?
953
00:48:55,352 --> 00:48:59,856
I can have hundreds
of comments that are so nice
954
00:49:00,065 --> 00:49:02,567
and so uplifting,
and all it takes
955
00:49:02,734 --> 00:49:06,613
is just one video to flop
or, like, one negative comment,
956
00:49:07,364 --> 00:49:08,948
and it just
overshadows the rest.
957
00:49:10,367 --> 00:49:13,078
It's almost as if it feels
like the rest just isn't real,
958
00:49:13,703 --> 00:49:16,456
that the rest is just
some sort of, sort of mirage,
959
00:49:16,623 --> 00:49:18,208
people just being nice to me.
960
00:49:18,667 --> 00:49:21,419
And then if someone notices,
like, bad parts,
961
00:49:21,586 --> 00:49:23,546
if someone notices flaws,
it's like,
962
00:49:23,713 --> 00:49:25,465
"Well, they're,
they're right, they exist."
963
00:49:26,132 --> 00:49:29,386
The other token of that
is the validation
964
00:49:29,552 --> 00:49:33,139
that you do receive once you've
been deprived of it for so long
965
00:49:33,306 --> 00:49:36,101
is satisfying, it's addicting,
966
00:49:36,267 --> 00:49:38,311
and that's why we go back
to it every single time.
967
00:49:38,478 --> 00:49:40,146
But it's fleeting.
It doesn't fill anything.
968
00:49:40,689 --> 00:49:42,315
We have an empty void.
969
00:49:42,482 --> 00:49:45,318
So in that world of comparison
that I was living in,
970
00:49:45,485 --> 00:49:47,696
it felt like I didn't
just have anxiety,
971
00:49:47,862 --> 00:49:48,988
I was living in it.
972
00:49:50,448 --> 00:49:52,409
The loneliness
almost crept in more...
973
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:56,371
...and that kind of loneliness
is the most debilitating thing
974
00:49:56,538 --> 00:49:59,040
that you can feel
because you get just enough
975
00:49:59,249 --> 00:50:01,918
to keep you going, but nothing
that's actually real or true.
976
00:50:03,003 --> 00:50:04,879
It was definitely
super overwhelming,
977
00:50:05,046 --> 00:50:07,257
and I just remember waking up
978
00:50:07,424 --> 00:50:09,467
and like feeling dead
and drained,
979
00:50:09,634 --> 00:50:11,344
and driving to school,
980
00:50:11,511 --> 00:50:13,388
and then getting
in the parking lot,
981
00:50:13,555 --> 00:50:17,559
and doing nothing
but just crying.
982
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:20,562
And I just remember
calling my mom and being like,
983
00:50:20,729 --> 00:50:22,397
"I, I can't do this. I can't,
984
00:50:22,564 --> 00:50:24,232
I can't go to school.
I can't do this."
985
00:50:24,399 --> 00:50:26,234
Like, I just feel like I,
I just want to stop everything.
986
00:50:26,401 --> 00:50:29,863
Anxiety thrives in isolation
987
00:50:30,030 --> 00:50:31,406
because it's
an internal process.
988
00:50:31,573 --> 00:50:32,782
People think that anxiety
989
00:50:32,949 --> 00:50:34,784
is all about
what goes on out here,
990
00:50:34,951 --> 00:50:36,953
but the way
it really gets its power
991
00:50:37,162 --> 00:50:40,999
is how we interpret in here
what's going on out here.
992
00:50:41,624 --> 00:50:43,460
And so if you are alone,
993
00:50:43,626 --> 00:50:46,254
if you are
in your room by yourself,
994
00:50:46,421 --> 00:50:48,757
if you're looking
at your smartphone,
995
00:50:48,923 --> 00:50:50,550
the stories that you tell,
996
00:50:50,717 --> 00:50:54,304
the internal focus
that we have with anxiety
997
00:50:54,471 --> 00:50:57,182
is, is something we really
need to pay attention to.
998
00:50:58,058 --> 00:51:00,560
When you are left alone
with your thoughts,
999
00:51:00,727 --> 00:51:05,190
when you are in there
telling stories, worrying,
1000
00:51:05,357 --> 00:51:08,651
feeling all of
these feelings by yourself,
1001
00:51:08,818 --> 00:51:10,403
it is no surprise at all
1002
00:51:10,570 --> 00:51:12,947
that those kids
move toward depression.
1003
00:51:14,074 --> 00:51:16,701
They're being bombarded
by messages that who it is
1004
00:51:16,868 --> 00:51:18,453
they are is not good enough.
1005
00:51:19,204 --> 00:51:20,455
That's why you
and I are anxious,
1006
00:51:20,622 --> 00:51:24,292
because if we fall prey
to the message
1007
00:51:24,459 --> 00:51:26,336
that who you are is
still not good enough,
1008
00:51:26,503 --> 00:51:28,088
you need to be that,
and you need to be more,
1009
00:51:28,296 --> 00:51:31,800
and you need to be skinnier,
and whiter, and lovelier,
1010
00:51:31,966 --> 00:51:35,220
and cleverer, I mean,
that's what our children
are bombarded by,
1011
00:51:35,387 --> 00:51:37,847
a standard of beauty,
a standard of intellect,
1012
00:51:38,014 --> 00:51:40,642
a standard of perfectionism
that is out of reach.
1013
00:51:45,647 --> 00:51:47,065
My name is Frances Haugen.
1014
00:51:47,732 --> 00:51:49,067
I used to work at Facebook.
1015
00:51:49,776 --> 00:51:52,112
The documents I have provided
to Congress prove
1016
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:54,572
that Facebook
has repeatedly misled the public
1017
00:51:54,739 --> 00:51:56,366
about what
its own research reveals
1018
00:51:56,533 --> 00:51:57,951
about the safety of children.
1019
00:51:58,576 --> 00:52:00,954
The company's leadership knows
how to make Facebook
1020
00:52:01,121 --> 00:52:02,789
and Instagram safer,
1021
00:52:02,956 --> 00:52:05,250
but won't the necessary changes
because they have put
1022
00:52:05,417 --> 00:52:08,294
their astronomical
profits before people.
1023
00:52:08,461 --> 00:52:11,881
We have culture that wants
to be, uh, capitalistic
1024
00:52:12,048 --> 00:52:14,843
and predating
on children because culture
1025
00:52:15,010 --> 00:52:16,761
makes a quick buck on it.
1026
00:52:16,928 --> 00:52:18,346
But they need to be told,
our children,
1027
00:52:18,513 --> 00:52:20,765
that what you're
seeing is fantasy.
1028
00:52:21,850 --> 00:52:24,102
You have the child,
you know, at that intersection
1029
00:52:24,310 --> 00:52:27,605
of a culture
that's desiring of greatness
1030
00:52:27,772 --> 00:52:32,110
and a cultural pressure that's
desiring of capitalism, really.
1031
00:52:32,318 --> 00:52:34,279
You have the poor child
1032
00:52:34,446 --> 00:52:37,365
who's just mercilessly
thrown around
1033
00:52:37,532 --> 00:52:39,659
in the winds of this craze.
1034
00:52:44,998 --> 00:52:48,001
When we think about whether
or not kids are more anxious
1035
00:52:48,168 --> 00:52:51,046
today than
they were in the past,
1036
00:52:51,212 --> 00:52:53,340
the answer is yes,
the statistics show it
1037
00:52:53,506 --> 00:52:56,051
in terms of the numbers rising.
1038
00:52:56,217 --> 00:52:58,720
Kids are more anxious today
because they are
1039
00:52:58,887 --> 00:53:02,140
constantly being put
into situations,
1040
00:53:02,349 --> 00:53:05,560
not all of them bad,
where they're being evaluated.
1041
00:53:05,727 --> 00:53:08,063
There's enormous
amount of information.
1042
00:53:08,229 --> 00:53:12,567
We are being s-- bombarded
by too much stimulation.
1043
00:53:12,734 --> 00:53:15,070
This is another route
to anxiety,
1044
00:53:15,236 --> 00:53:16,780
too much stimulation,
1045
00:53:16,946 --> 00:53:18,865
and people will have a meltdown
1046
00:53:19,032 --> 00:53:20,909
because of the limited bandwidth
1047
00:53:21,076 --> 00:53:22,994
that they have to be able
to process
1048
00:53:23,161 --> 00:53:25,372
the bombardment of sounds
1049
00:53:25,538 --> 00:53:27,499
and images
that are coming at them.
1050
00:53:29,668 --> 00:53:33,004
The ability to know
everything all the time
1051
00:53:33,171 --> 00:53:37,175
is really causing
the anxiety to really explode
1052
00:53:37,384 --> 00:53:39,094
in a way
that's pretty unprecedented.
1053
00:53:40,345 --> 00:53:42,263
There's a lot of cultural unrest
1054
00:53:42,472 --> 00:53:43,890
happening right now,
1055
00:53:44,057 --> 00:53:46,017
um, and it's very scary.
1056
00:53:46,184 --> 00:53:48,019
Uh, things feel very uncertain.
1057
00:53:48,645 --> 00:53:53,108
So tonight,
I, I was in the bathroom
1058
00:53:53,274 --> 00:53:56,194
washing my face,
and they were out here
watching their show.
1059
00:53:57,529 --> 00:53:59,572
And I was just
in there washing my face,
1060
00:53:59,739 --> 00:54:01,783
and a helicopter flew over...
1061
00:54:03,118 --> 00:54:04,411
...and it started, like,
1062
00:54:05,161 --> 00:54:07,914
saying stuff off
like a loudspeaker.
1063
00:54:10,083 --> 00:54:12,669
And I couldn't really understand
what they, they were saying,
1064
00:54:12,836 --> 00:54:16,131
but all I could understand was,
"Something, something, 911"...
1065
00:54:17,215 --> 00:54:19,676
...and I got really scared,
and I didn't know what it was,
1066
00:54:19,843 --> 00:54:21,094
and we didn't know what it was.
1067
00:54:22,554 --> 00:54:25,265
Every time a helicopter
flies over like that,
1068
00:54:25,473 --> 00:54:27,726
it's, it's,
it's really scary for me
1069
00:54:27,892 --> 00:54:30,478
because I don't know
what's gonna happen
1070
00:54:30,645 --> 00:54:33,898
because... ...like,
1071
00:54:34,065 --> 00:54:35,692
all the stories
that I've heard in the past,
1072
00:54:35,859 --> 00:54:37,152
like, school shootings,
1073
00:54:37,318 --> 00:54:38,570
mall shootings,
1074
00:54:38,737 --> 00:54:39,821
anything that happens
with, like,
1075
00:54:39,988 --> 00:54:41,448
really dangerous situations,
1076
00:54:41,614 --> 00:54:42,866
that's my worst fear.
1077
00:54:43,033 --> 00:54:44,617
I never want to be
caught up in that.
1078
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:48,955
We're living
in very scary times.
1079
00:54:49,122 --> 00:54:52,459
I, I see a lot of hate
being displayed.
1080
00:54:53,293 --> 00:54:54,878
I'm sure, you know,
some of these people
1081
00:54:55,045 --> 00:54:56,546
always had these feelings,
1082
00:54:56,713 --> 00:54:59,299
but it just wasn't
in your face like that.
1083
00:55:00,633 --> 00:55:02,635
And we're just living
in very divisive times.
1084
00:55:02,802 --> 00:55:03,553
It's scary.
1085
00:55:05,764 --> 00:55:06,931
Recently,
I've been worrying a lot
1086
00:55:07,098 --> 00:55:08,641
about the state of our nation,
1087
00:55:08,808 --> 00:55:10,643
and there's been a lot going on
1088
00:55:10,810 --> 00:55:13,313
when it comes
to racial injustices and stuff.
1089
00:55:15,607 --> 00:55:18,151
I worry a lot
because of my racial background.
1090
00:55:18,318 --> 00:55:21,029
Um, in case you couldn't tell,
I'm...
1091
00:55:21,196 --> 00:55:22,197
...I'm not exactly white.
1092
00:55:22,364 --> 00:55:24,908
Uh, and so, um,
1093
00:55:25,784 --> 00:55:29,537
there is definitely
a lot of, um...
1094
00:55:30,789 --> 00:55:33,375
...certain systemic issues
that I face.
1095
00:55:33,583 --> 00:55:37,003
And so I pretty much worry
every time I go out the street,
1096
00:55:37,170 --> 00:55:39,089
every time a cop car passes me,
1097
00:55:39,255 --> 00:55:43,468
and I, I-- it's just, it's just
things where I fear for my life,
1098
00:55:43,635 --> 00:55:44,803
and I just worry and...
1099
00:55:45,970 --> 00:55:47,263
I don't know, I just get worried
that I'd never see
1100
00:55:47,472 --> 00:55:49,140
my parents or friends again
because if,
1101
00:55:49,849 --> 00:55:51,559
if something were
to happen to me, I don't know.
1102
00:55:54,104 --> 00:55:55,980
I remember
I was pulled over once
1103
00:55:56,147 --> 00:55:57,315
when I was in high school,
1104
00:55:58,066 --> 00:56:00,819
and I remember being terrified.
1105
00:56:01,277 --> 00:56:03,071
I didn't even--
hadn't realized, you know,
1106
00:56:03,238 --> 00:56:05,073
that I was even doing
anything wrong.
1107
00:56:05,240 --> 00:56:09,035
And I remember being afraid
that I could lose my life.
1108
00:56:09,202 --> 00:56:12,205
And I was actually crying.
I remember calling my parents,
and they said like,
1109
00:56:12,372 --> 00:56:13,665
"Just stay calm.
You'll be fine."
1110
00:56:16,793 --> 00:56:20,213
It's an extra layer of anxiety
1111
00:56:20,380 --> 00:56:23,133
for Black and brown families,
just dealing with racism.
1112
00:56:23,299 --> 00:56:26,011
That's something
that white people don't have
1113
00:56:26,177 --> 00:56:27,387
to, to deal with.
1114
00:56:27,595 --> 00:56:28,888
That sort of experience
1115
00:56:29,055 --> 00:56:32,726
of just constantly
feeling afraid.
1116
00:56:33,309 --> 00:56:35,645
Anxiety to me...
1117
00:56:36,813 --> 00:56:39,065
It might have been
when I was around eight,
1118
00:56:39,232 --> 00:56:42,027
nine years old,
coming home with my dad
1119
00:56:42,193 --> 00:56:45,030
and pulling into the driveway,
1120
00:56:45,697 --> 00:56:47,991
turning the car off,
try to step out,
1121
00:56:48,158 --> 00:56:49,909
and seeing...
1122
00:56:51,036 --> 00:56:54,080
...just the whole world
turning red and blue.
1123
00:56:54,706 --> 00:56:57,042
Having the first interaction
1124
00:56:57,208 --> 00:56:59,544
with the police in that sense...
1125
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:02,005
...from the flashlights,
1126
00:57:02,172 --> 00:57:04,090
and with the guns drawn,
1127
00:57:04,257 --> 00:57:06,301
and the flashlights
on assault rifles pointed at me
1128
00:57:06,468 --> 00:57:08,345
and my father from both windows.
1129
00:57:09,429 --> 00:57:13,475
Finding out my brother
had passed away from drugs,
1130
00:57:13,683 --> 00:57:17,103
sadly, and seeing him
and his body that same day.
1131
00:57:18,563 --> 00:57:20,607
I ended up
being institutionalized
1132
00:57:20,774 --> 00:57:22,567
in St Lukes Psychiatric Hospital
1133
00:57:22,734 --> 00:57:24,944
when I was like six years old.
1134
00:57:26,279 --> 00:57:29,574
Been there...
about three months,
1135
00:57:29,741 --> 00:57:32,285
but that first day
was the hardest,
1136
00:57:32,452 --> 00:57:34,788
and the one I'll live
with the most was...
1137
00:57:35,789 --> 00:57:38,458
...being held down
by those staff
1138
00:57:39,209 --> 00:57:40,877
and seeing my mom just walk away
1139
00:57:41,044 --> 00:57:42,170
through those double doors.
1140
00:57:50,428 --> 00:57:52,889
So was it that--
is that where you were?
1141
00:57:53,056 --> 00:57:56,142
Yeah, them-- in the--
Right up there.
1142
00:57:57,936 --> 00:58:01,022
They ended up putting
a needle in my ass,
1143
00:58:01,189 --> 00:58:03,108
you know, my ass,
you know, my rear end,
1144
00:58:03,274 --> 00:58:04,984
and putting me to sleep.
1145
00:58:05,151 --> 00:58:07,904
And I don't remember, like,
after, like, the first week.
1146
00:58:11,199 --> 00:58:12,742
Yeah, three months of that.
1147
00:58:14,619 --> 00:58:17,247
Even as a child,
I saw with my own eyes
1148
00:58:17,414 --> 00:58:19,416
that only a few get
the luxury to live,
1149
00:58:19,624 --> 00:58:21,876
while the rest have to scramble
just to survive.
1150
00:58:23,128 --> 00:58:24,713
That's something
I want to change.
1151
00:58:25,422 --> 00:58:27,132
I think that's the unrest
1152
00:58:27,298 --> 00:58:29,759
and why I feel
that I can't rest,
1153
00:58:29,926 --> 00:58:33,138
because survival
is a part of life,
1154
00:58:33,304 --> 00:58:34,389
but it isn't life.
1155
00:58:35,306 --> 00:58:40,437
I'd say people are upset when
every day is like on the brink
1156
00:58:40,645 --> 00:58:44,649
of not seeing tomorrow
or if there will be tomorrow.
1157
00:58:44,816 --> 00:58:47,027
I'm living like
that every single day,
1158
00:58:47,193 --> 00:58:48,486
seeing my mother like that,
1159
00:58:48,695 --> 00:58:51,406
seeing my father
for a long time like that,
1160
00:58:51,573 --> 00:58:54,284
seeing family members
have to overcome that.
1161
00:58:55,368 --> 00:58:58,204
And as it grows continually,
it gets more heavy,
1162
00:58:58,371 --> 00:59:00,999
to where it's almost
like you want to reach inside
1163
00:59:01,166 --> 00:59:03,084
and just throw it off, you know?
1164
00:59:06,171 --> 00:59:09,883
The system doesn't serve
every child well.
1165
00:59:10,050 --> 00:59:13,094
Kids get lost,
they get overdiagnosed,
1166
00:59:13,261 --> 00:59:14,888
and they get overmedicated.
1167
00:59:15,513 --> 00:59:18,933
There are times
when people are treating them
1168
00:59:19,100 --> 00:59:21,186
who don't have
the expertise that's needed
1169
00:59:21,353 --> 00:59:23,605
to handle some
of the complexities
1170
00:59:23,813 --> 00:59:27,692
of being a child in a world
that is so complicated.
1171
00:59:29,402 --> 00:59:33,531
It is not a surprise at all
to me how frequently we are
1172
00:59:33,740 --> 00:59:37,160
seeing kids with long
histories of anxiety,
1173
00:59:37,744 --> 00:59:39,871
and by the time
that they hit college,
1174
00:59:40,038 --> 00:59:42,999
the ability
for these kids to move on
1175
00:59:43,166 --> 00:59:46,294
with their lives
really becomes impaired.
1176
00:59:46,461 --> 00:59:49,130
And it was a long time
in the making, unfortunately.
1177
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:53,051
Today, I worry
1178
00:59:53,218 --> 00:59:54,844
about a lot of things, honestly.
1179
00:59:55,011 --> 00:59:57,555
It all falls into worrying
about the future
1180
00:59:57,764 --> 01:00:00,850
and the uncertainty of it all.
1181
01:00:01,017 --> 01:00:02,602
Currently,
I'm worried about college.
1182
01:00:03,978 --> 01:00:05,689
When I got to college,
1183
01:00:05,897 --> 01:00:08,775
I basically was
just shell-shocked.
1184
01:00:08,942 --> 01:00:11,319
All the things that I didn't
expect to be hard were...
1185
01:00:12,612 --> 01:00:14,114
...just the constant grind,
1186
01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:17,200
and basically al-- just all
the same thoughts
1187
01:00:17,367 --> 01:00:21,454
-from my anxiety
all came back into my life.
1188
01:00:23,248 --> 01:00:25,917
When I tried to go see
a counselor on campus,
1189
01:00:26,084 --> 01:00:29,963
it was three weeks before
I could even get an intake
to discuss what was going on.
1190
01:00:30,130 --> 01:00:32,340
And I remember thinking
at that time,
1191
01:00:32,966 --> 01:00:35,510
"Man, I've dealt with this
for so long that I know
how to deal with it,"
1192
01:00:35,677 --> 01:00:37,387
but imagine
if this was a kid that...
1193
01:00:38,513 --> 01:00:40,640
...didn't know what
they were doing with anxiety,
1194
01:00:40,849 --> 01:00:42,892
or depression, or anything,
and they had to wait
1195
01:00:43,059 --> 01:00:45,311
three weeks,
going through whatever
they were going through,
1196
01:00:45,478 --> 01:00:49,024
to get an intake,
not even, not even the help
that they needed.
1197
01:00:51,609 --> 01:00:53,695
My first panic attack
was when I was 18
1198
01:00:53,903 --> 01:00:55,864
in my freshman year of college.
1199
01:00:56,740 --> 01:00:58,491
It was during a calculus exam.
1200
01:00:59,534 --> 01:01:03,872
I suddenly couldn't breathe,
and my hands were shaking.
1201
01:01:04,039 --> 01:01:06,666
I couldn't even
write on the test.
1202
01:01:06,875 --> 01:01:07,959
Like, I literally had
to just walk out
1203
01:01:08,126 --> 01:01:10,670
and leave
because I thought,
1204
01:01:10,879 --> 01:01:13,757
like, something
was happening to me.
Like, I thought I was dying.
1205
01:01:13,965 --> 01:01:16,426
Um, I called my mom,
and I was like,
1206
01:01:16,593 --> 01:01:18,595
"Mom--" Like, I was,
like, hyperventilating.
1207
01:01:18,762 --> 01:01:20,430
I was like, "I can't breathe.
I don't know what's going on."
1208
01:01:20,597 --> 01:01:22,390
And she was like, "I think
you're having a panic attack."
1209
01:01:24,684 --> 01:01:28,021
I didn't have a therapist yet.
I waited like a month to get in,
1210
01:01:28,188 --> 01:01:31,107
and then I only got
five sessions,
and they kicked me out.
1211
01:01:31,274 --> 01:01:33,443
So I finally got close
with the therapist there,
and they're like,
1212
01:01:33,610 --> 01:01:36,279
"Oh, sorry, you, like,
ran out of appointments."
1213
01:01:36,738 --> 01:01:38,948
So then I had to find
somebody else,
1214
01:01:39,574 --> 01:01:42,118
who ended up not taking
my insurance,
1215
01:01:42,285 --> 01:01:45,163
found somebody else who ended up
just being really terrible,
1216
01:01:45,330 --> 01:01:47,624
and so I just kept going through
all these different therapists
1217
01:01:47,791 --> 01:01:50,085
after I had found the one
that was helping me,
1218
01:01:50,251 --> 01:01:52,587
and then
she could no longer see me.
1219
01:01:53,171 --> 01:01:56,049
It doesn't make any sense
at all how they work.
1220
01:01:58,510 --> 01:02:00,762
College campuses have to
recognize that their consumer,
1221
01:02:00,970 --> 01:02:04,474
their client, is more likely
to have mental health disorders.
1222
01:02:04,641 --> 01:02:08,061
It's not because of college.
It's because that's the time
1223
01:02:08,228 --> 01:02:12,023
the brain has those changes if
you're genetically predisposed
1224
01:02:12,190 --> 01:02:13,775
to getting those disorders.
1225
01:02:13,983 --> 01:02:15,402
You talk to any president
of a college,
1226
01:02:15,568 --> 01:02:17,320
and he's gonna say,
or she's going to say,
1227
01:02:17,487 --> 01:02:19,948
"This is a problem. Where am I
supposed to find the funds?"
1228
01:02:20,115 --> 01:02:22,033
Well, you're,
you're gonna have to reallocate.
1229
01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:24,953
You just have to because
this problem is not going away.
1230
01:02:28,498 --> 01:02:30,667
I was having
cycling panic attacks.
1231
01:02:31,626 --> 01:02:34,254
Just, like, went through
panic attack after panic attack.
1232
01:02:36,381 --> 01:02:38,925
It was like an elephant
was sitting on my chest.
1233
01:02:39,092 --> 01:02:42,512
Like, it was tight.
I couldn't breathe.
1234
01:02:43,596 --> 01:02:47,017
And I also just felt like
a hollow emptiness inside,
1235
01:02:47,183 --> 01:02:50,186
like I wasn't even-- Like, I
feel like I was disassociating.
1236
01:02:50,353 --> 01:02:53,356
I wasn't even, like, a person.
Like, I was just this, like,
1237
01:02:53,523 --> 01:02:57,110
crumpled up
piece-of-paper-type thing,
1238
01:02:57,777 --> 01:03:00,113
and that just couldn't
function anymore.
1239
01:03:00,822 --> 01:03:03,575
And I knew I couldn't
keep living like that.
1240
01:03:05,994 --> 01:03:07,829
And I started having
a panic attack,
1241
01:03:08,038 --> 01:03:12,125
and I took a Klonopin to help,
and it didn't help.
1242
01:03:12,292 --> 01:03:14,544
And so I took another Klonopin,
and it didn't help.
1243
01:03:14,711 --> 01:03:16,588
Took another Klonopin,
and it didn't help.
1244
01:03:16,755 --> 01:03:19,215
And I had already written
a suicide note,
1245
01:03:19,382 --> 01:03:24,679
so I was just like,
"I can't do this anymore.
Like, this is my end."
1246
01:03:32,562 --> 01:03:34,564
It felt like
I was supposed to feel better.
1247
01:03:35,273 --> 01:03:37,317
I knew that I had it
better than others.
1248
01:03:37,484 --> 01:03:40,111
And it was, like,
not only was I taking the hammer
1249
01:03:40,278 --> 01:03:42,030
of all the things
that I had done wrong,
1250
01:03:42,197 --> 01:03:44,366
I was also taking on
this huge hammer of,
1251
01:03:44,532 --> 01:03:48,828
"Well, I'm supposed
to feel better, do better,
look better, think better,
1252
01:03:49,496 --> 01:03:50,747
but for whatever reason,
I'm not.
1253
01:03:52,248 --> 01:03:54,584
-And that's my fault,
and that's me."
1254
01:03:54,751 --> 01:03:56,878
I looked at myself
in the mirror, and I thought,
1255
01:03:57,087 --> 01:03:59,756
"I ha-- I hate the person
that I see in front of me."
1256
01:04:03,385 --> 01:04:07,013
I remember, you know,
pulling up to this bridge.
1257
01:04:08,390 --> 01:04:11,226
I stood at that ledge, and...
1258
01:04:13,019 --> 01:04:14,604
...I thought of all the people,
1259
01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:18,400
you know, that I loved
and that loved me back.
1260
01:04:18,900 --> 01:04:23,905
But the painful thing
about what I think depression
and anxiety does is...
1261
01:04:25,573 --> 01:04:29,577
...you also have, like,
the enemy and the ego in
your head reminding you of why,
1262
01:04:30,328 --> 01:04:33,164
like, the choice that you think
you're about to make
is the right one.
1263
01:04:33,832 --> 01:04:36,793
And I was taking that all in
1264
01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:41,089
and I didn't realize
that my dad had my location,
1265
01:04:41,256 --> 01:04:43,633
and he noticed, like,
I've been gone for four hours.
1266
01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:47,345
"Where is she?" And he saw me
driving around, I guess,
all over.
1267
01:04:48,054 --> 01:04:51,474
And he pulled up finally,
he was probably going like 90,
1268
01:04:51,641 --> 01:04:55,103
pulled up and I remember him
walking around my car
1269
01:04:55,562 --> 01:04:57,522
and his eyes,
and he was a paramedic,
1270
01:04:57,689 --> 01:04:58,940
so he looked at me,
and he's like,
1271
01:04:59,858 --> 01:05:03,153
"What are you doing?" Like, calm
and centered, and I was like,
1272
01:05:03,319 --> 01:05:05,822
"I don't know.
I don't know what I'm doing."
1273
01:05:14,998 --> 01:05:18,001
I would say that, in the richest
country in the world,
1274
01:05:18,209 --> 01:05:20,128
we are truly failing
our young people.
1275
01:05:22,756 --> 01:05:25,800
The message is loud and clear.
"We don't think
this is important,"
1276
01:05:25,967 --> 01:05:27,218
and then we pay later.
1277
01:05:33,558 --> 01:05:36,978
Some disturbing findings
about suicides in this country
1278
01:05:37,187 --> 01:05:41,232
and how the rate has continued
to climb for more than 15 years.
1279
01:05:41,858 --> 01:05:45,862
The mental health of teenagers
is a major cause for concern.
1280
01:05:46,029 --> 01:05:49,616
Kids are a frequent sight in
hospital emergency departments.
1281
01:05:51,034 --> 01:05:53,370
The obstacles this generation
of young people face
1282
01:05:53,995 --> 01:05:56,748
are unprecedented and uniquely
hard to navigate,
1283
01:05:57,540 --> 01:06:00,377
and the impact that's having
on their mental health
is devastating.
1284
01:06:01,628 --> 01:06:03,421
The coronavirus pandemic
has fueled
1285
01:06:03,588 --> 01:06:06,049
a mental health crisis
in the United States.
1286
01:06:06,591 --> 01:06:09,010
Recent report warns
that kids and teens may develop
1287
01:06:09,219 --> 01:06:13,056
serious mental health conditions
because of the pandemic.
1288
01:06:14,391 --> 01:06:16,893
It took COVID to finally put
1289
01:06:17,060 --> 01:06:19,771
child mental health
at the front of the agenda
1290
01:06:19,938 --> 01:06:24,067
because COVID is
such a remarkable, uh, equalizer
1291
01:06:24,275 --> 01:06:26,945
that everyone is feeling the
stress of this global pandemic.
1292
01:06:29,739 --> 01:06:32,492
Since there is a high percentage
of people in the United States,
1293
01:06:32,659 --> 01:06:35,245
particularly under the age
of 18, who are struggling,
1294
01:06:35,412 --> 01:06:37,497
they look more symptomatic
than ever before.
1295
01:06:41,543 --> 01:06:44,170
The unknown is so challenging
for an anxious child
1296
01:06:44,838 --> 01:06:48,008
and that made COVID one
of the hardest times for us
1297
01:06:48,216 --> 01:06:51,594
because Sevey wanted assurances
that everything would be okay,
1298
01:06:51,761 --> 01:06:54,305
and wanted certainty
that I just couldn't give her.
1299
01:06:57,559 --> 01:07:01,187
For school, I have to keep
a journal about quarantine
and what our feelings are.
1300
01:07:02,731 --> 01:07:04,858
Me and my mom had to quarantine,
but then instead
1301
01:07:05,025 --> 01:07:07,902
of having it to be two weeks,
it became unknown.
1302
01:07:08,778 --> 01:07:12,824
It's changed so much,
and some things I just don't
want to change are changing.
1303
01:07:14,492 --> 01:07:16,036
I want life
to go back to normal.
1304
01:07:16,995 --> 01:07:19,205
No, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no!
1305
01:07:19,372 --> 01:07:21,916
I will do the stuff for today.
I'm not doing the stuff
for yesterday
1306
01:07:22,083 --> 01:07:23,960
because if it cannot fit
on one page
1307
01:07:24,127 --> 01:07:26,421
when you could just make
the font smaller,
1308
01:07:26,588 --> 01:07:29,090
I'm not gonna to do it
because I didn't see it,
so I'm not going to do it.
1309
01:07:30,050 --> 01:07:32,844
Just the other day, I took him
back to the psychiatrist,
1310
01:07:33,553 --> 01:07:36,890
and he prescribed, uh,
an antidepressant...
1311
01:07:38,516 --> 01:07:40,518
...which I'm on the fence about,
but Mike and I both agree
1312
01:07:40,685 --> 01:07:43,521
we got to try something else
because screaming
1313
01:07:43,688 --> 01:07:46,232
and the panic attacks, I mean,
it's, it's not getting better,
1314
01:07:46,399 --> 01:07:50,111
it's getting worse.
Uh, just simple things
like doing homework or--
1315
01:07:50,320 --> 01:07:52,364
-Transitioning...
-Transitions are really hard--
1316
01:07:52,530 --> 01:07:54,783
-...from anyth-- from anything
to homework, yeah.
-It's really hard.
1317
01:07:54,949 --> 01:07:56,451
It's like he feels
1318
01:07:56,993 --> 01:07:59,829
almost like a self-hatred
when he's in that moment.
1319
01:07:59,996 --> 01:08:01,706
Like, he's freaking out,
and screaming,
1320
01:08:01,873 --> 01:08:03,583
and, like, "I am so stupid."
1321
01:08:03,750 --> 01:08:05,710
Like, he broke an iPad
on his forehead...
1322
01:08:07,587 --> 01:08:10,006
...and, uh, really scared me.
1323
01:08:11,633 --> 01:08:13,843
Lockdown was really strange.
1324
01:08:14,552 --> 01:08:15,929
I've been home in Florida
1325
01:08:16,096 --> 01:08:18,181
with my parents
for about five months.
1326
01:08:18,890 --> 01:08:20,975
It's more stressful
than I anticipated.
1327
01:08:22,852 --> 01:08:25,647
I miss my friends.
I miss my freedom.
1328
01:08:26,356 --> 01:08:27,649
I'm nervous.
1329
01:08:27,816 --> 01:08:30,485
Today, I was very antsy.
1330
01:08:30,652 --> 01:08:34,739
I, I, I couldn't stay still.
1331
01:08:34,906 --> 01:08:37,784
I had a hard time
focusing during my,
1332
01:08:37,951 --> 01:08:40,662
uh, online classes today,
1333
01:08:40,829 --> 01:08:42,872
my li-- my live sessions,
1334
01:08:43,456 --> 01:08:47,002
and it was just really,
really tough.
1335
01:08:47,168 --> 01:08:50,505
I'm just trying
to do whatever it is that
1336
01:08:51,381 --> 01:08:52,841
will take my mind off of things.
1337
01:08:56,136 --> 01:08:57,512
When everything
just kind of shut down
1338
01:08:57,679 --> 01:08:59,472
around the beginning of COVID,
1339
01:08:59,639 --> 01:09:01,057
my dreams about
the future were just, like,
1340
01:09:01,224 --> 01:09:02,767
stopped and, like, crushed,
1341
01:09:02,934 --> 01:09:04,519
and the future was
just so uncertain.
1342
01:09:05,311 --> 01:09:08,857
I definitely hit
a very low point.
1343
01:09:09,691 --> 01:09:10,650
I...
1344
01:09:12,819 --> 01:09:16,322
I basically shut out my friends.
I shut out my family.
1345
01:09:16,489 --> 01:09:18,241
I physically was feeling sick.
1346
01:09:18,450 --> 01:09:21,911
I would just feel very,
almost woozy,
1347
01:09:22,078 --> 01:09:24,497
and it was almost like
I couldn't exactly, like,
1348
01:09:24,664 --> 01:09:26,666
have like control on reality.
1349
01:09:28,501 --> 01:09:30,003
It wasn't like
a silence of emotions,
1350
01:09:30,170 --> 01:09:31,921
it was almost like
an emptiness of it.
1351
01:09:32,088 --> 01:09:34,883
It was like being sucked out
and I just remember
1352
01:09:35,050 --> 01:09:37,719
sitting there feeling like,
like, like there was no future.
1353
01:09:39,721 --> 01:09:42,599
All right, so tell me
what's been going on,
tell me what's--
1354
01:09:43,516 --> 01:09:46,936
Yeah, so...
1355
01:09:47,103 --> 01:09:51,441
I think at first I was doing
all right, and then--
1356
01:09:51,608 --> 01:09:55,195
-Like, a little while in,
1357
01:09:55,403 --> 01:09:58,198
I just started getting
like a lot more panic attacks...
1358
01:09:58,406 --> 01:09:59,657
-and, like...
-Mm-hmm.
1359
01:09:59,824 --> 01:10:01,201
...just started to feel those,
1360
01:10:01,409 --> 01:10:03,161
like, coming on at all times.
1361
01:10:04,037 --> 01:10:06,373
And then, like, when I'm not
having a panic attack,
1362
01:10:06,539 --> 01:10:08,833
I'm worrying that one's coming.
1363
01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:11,169
So I, I think the most
important thing for you
1364
01:10:11,378 --> 01:10:14,964
to hear from me right now
is that this is okay,
1365
01:10:15,799 --> 01:10:17,425
and I know
you're just like, "Oh,
1366
01:10:17,592 --> 01:10:19,302
-God, you know, why is this--"
You know.
-Yeah.
1367
01:10:19,511 --> 01:10:21,221
-You're just,
you're just frustrated with it.
-Yeah.
1368
01:10:21,429 --> 01:10:25,558
But, but, you know,
we're in a global pandemic.
1369
01:10:25,725 --> 01:10:27,686
-Yeah.
- Right?
1370
01:10:27,852 --> 01:10:30,730
I mean, it is sort of like,
if this were a novel about
1371
01:10:30,897 --> 01:10:33,233
little boy who worries
about death and uncertainty.
1372
01:10:33,441 --> 01:10:36,945
-Yeah.
-And then when he's in college,
then there's a global pandemic
1373
01:10:37,112 --> 01:10:39,614
that shuts down the world,
and then, you know,
1374
01:10:39,781 --> 01:10:42,742
there's a death
to somebody near,
close to him that's unexpected.
1375
01:10:42,909 --> 01:10:44,953
-Yeah.
-I mean, people would look
at this, and you'd probably
1376
01:10:45,120 --> 01:10:47,706
send it off to the--
to your editor,
and the editor would be like,
1377
01:10:47,872 --> 01:10:50,583
-"Really?" Like,
"This is a little--
- Yeah.
1378
01:10:50,750 --> 01:10:52,877
Don't you think
this is a little much?
You got this little kid
1379
01:10:53,044 --> 01:10:55,296
who worries about
death and uncertainty,
and then we throw him
1380
01:10:55,505 --> 01:10:58,133
-into a pandemic, I mean,
who's gonna believe that?"
-Right.
1381
01:10:58,299 --> 01:11:01,594
This is just another part
of your story to say,
1382
01:11:02,262 --> 01:11:07,142
"This is--
This is me on this path,
and this is me figuring me out."
1383
01:11:08,601 --> 01:11:10,478
It takes these kind of crises
1384
01:11:10,645 --> 01:11:13,481
for us to rethink
and be innovative.
1385
01:11:13,648 --> 01:11:16,985
It's maybe the only silver
lining for the pandemic.
1386
01:11:18,111 --> 01:11:20,447
And I think America
is still having trouble
1387
01:11:20,613 --> 01:11:22,866
wrapping its head
around the fact
1388
01:11:23,033 --> 01:11:25,076
that the most common illnesses
of childhood
1389
01:11:25,243 --> 01:11:27,454
and adolescence
are mental health disorders.
1390
01:11:27,620 --> 01:11:30,040
I think we still have
so much stigma related to it.
1391
01:11:31,666 --> 01:11:33,793
There's an illusion
that we think
1392
01:11:33,960 --> 01:11:37,339
people with depression
and anxiety and these very,
1393
01:11:37,547 --> 01:11:40,925
you know, deep emotions,
that they're not strong.
1394
01:11:42,177 --> 01:11:44,304
But I actually think that
they're incredibly strong.
1395
01:11:45,180 --> 01:11:46,389
You know, so strong that
1396
01:11:47,057 --> 01:11:49,184
they're pushing through
these things that, normally...
1397
01:11:50,935 --> 01:11:52,729
...you know,
other people maybe wouldn't.
1398
01:11:52,896 --> 01:11:54,814
They would take
the time to heal from them.
1399
01:12:04,074 --> 01:12:06,034
When I was in my early twenties,
1400
01:12:06,201 --> 01:12:08,244
I started taking
an antidepressant,
1401
01:12:08,411 --> 01:12:12,957
and I noticed within like two
weeks, for me, it was just like,
1402
01:12:13,124 --> 01:12:15,794
I really could just start saying
yes to everything.
1403
01:12:18,880 --> 01:12:21,716
I was really in like
a super, super good place.
1404
01:12:22,926 --> 01:12:25,261
And I had a boyfriend, and he's
like, "Oh, so you're cheating."
1405
01:12:26,429 --> 01:12:30,934
And I was like,
"I'm sorry, wha-- what?"
1406
01:12:31,101 --> 01:12:32,519
He goes,
"You're happy all the time.
1407
01:12:32,686 --> 01:12:34,062
Like, you're always
in a good mood and..."
1408
01:12:34,729 --> 01:12:38,775
I was just like, "Yeah, I am.
1409
01:12:39,818 --> 01:12:41,986
That's just who I am and...
1410
01:12:43,029 --> 01:12:46,116
...if I am not
chemically balanced right,
1411
01:12:46,282 --> 01:12:50,245
I can't be like that because
I'm, like, internally suffering
1412
01:12:50,412 --> 01:12:54,708
at a level that
you can't even comprehend
with your reptile brain."
1413
01:12:54,874 --> 01:12:57,043
And I had not really
ever seen it.
1414
01:12:57,210 --> 01:12:59,004
I had never been
exposed to somebody
1415
01:12:59,754 --> 01:13:01,673
who said something like that.
1416
01:13:01,840 --> 01:13:04,759
And so it was just super--
it was just such a bummer,
you know?
1417
01:13:05,301 --> 01:13:06,386
I'd like to see...
1418
01:13:07,554 --> 01:13:10,932
...many things changed
on the state of mental health.
1419
01:13:11,808 --> 01:13:15,687
And part of it is,
it's okay to be undone.
1420
01:13:16,896 --> 01:13:20,191
That there are people that have
asthma, they have lupus...
1421
01:13:21,484 --> 01:13:24,070
...they have other illnesses
from childhood,
1422
01:13:24,946 --> 01:13:27,699
but if they have anxiety,
that that's terrible?
1423
01:13:28,283 --> 01:13:29,617
If they need to see
a psychologist,
1424
01:13:29,784 --> 01:13:31,745
that's terrible? No.
1425
01:13:31,911 --> 01:13:36,458
But I, I do believe that there
are a lot of advocates
1426
01:13:37,375 --> 01:13:40,211
uh, that are rising up
and saying, "Hey,
1427
01:13:40,837 --> 01:13:47,093
like, it's okay to admit you
have a mental health problem."
1428
01:13:47,260 --> 01:13:49,679
We in the African American
community,
1429
01:13:49,846 --> 01:13:52,098
we don't deal
with mental health issues.
1430
01:13:52,265 --> 01:13:53,975
We don't even talk about it.
1431
01:13:54,142 --> 01:13:57,771
We've been taught to pray
our problems away.
1432
01:13:57,937 --> 01:13:59,481
Um, we've been demonized
1433
01:13:59,689 --> 01:14:02,650
for coming out saying
we have issues,
1434
01:14:02,817 --> 01:14:04,527
uh, and we have trust issues.
1435
01:14:04,736 --> 01:14:07,322
Just to throw in
a little bit of my journey,
1436
01:14:07,489 --> 01:14:11,618
I felt like once I found out
what was going on mentally,
1437
01:14:11,785 --> 01:14:17,624
I found that it was, there was
more freedom for me to be okay
1438
01:14:17,791 --> 01:14:19,918
with what I had
because I was learning about it.
1439
01:14:20,085 --> 01:14:22,962
People have called me brave,
but to me it just felt
like not dying,
1440
01:14:23,129 --> 01:14:26,216
and I felt like
being honest and, um,
1441
01:14:26,883 --> 01:14:30,428
maybe bravery is just being
honest when it would be
easier not to.
1442
01:14:30,637 --> 01:14:32,555
Um, and if that's bravery,
then so be it,
1443
01:14:32,764 --> 01:14:34,307
but I've just been
really grateful,
1444
01:14:34,474 --> 01:14:36,685
um, to, one,
receive the help I have,
1445
01:14:37,310 --> 01:14:40,939
and then, two,
to have learned some things
that I can share with others.
1446
01:14:41,481 --> 01:14:44,442
So what needs to change is
something systemic,
1447
01:14:44,651 --> 01:14:46,820
is not to blame the anxiety
1448
01:14:46,986 --> 01:14:49,364
and not to blame the one who is
experiencing the anxiety.
1449
01:14:49,531 --> 01:14:52,409
We should take away all labels,
all judgement, all shame.
1450
01:14:52,575 --> 01:14:54,244
It's not the child's "fault."
1451
01:14:54,411 --> 01:14:56,496
We need to understand
what's happening systemically.
1452
01:15:08,425 --> 01:15:11,219
It's not
that the system is broke.
1453
01:15:12,512 --> 01:15:14,180
It's, it was never right.
1454
01:15:14,347 --> 01:15:15,724
It's not a broke system.
1455
01:15:15,890 --> 01:15:18,226
It's, it's,
it's not a woke system.
1456
01:15:18,393 --> 01:15:23,023
You know, we never woke up
and created the proper system.
1457
01:15:24,274 --> 01:15:27,152
Families are making
the daily decision
1458
01:15:27,318 --> 01:15:30,864
on how to prioritize
their bills.
1459
01:15:31,031 --> 01:15:35,035
And I think that mental health
falls at the bottom of the pole
1460
01:15:35,618 --> 01:15:37,620
because it's not something
that's an immediate need,
1461
01:15:37,829 --> 01:15:40,081
like housing or food.
1462
01:15:40,248 --> 01:15:42,709
And so families have to make
really tough decisions
1463
01:15:42,876 --> 01:15:45,879
about priorities
and what's gonna be feasible.
1464
01:15:46,755 --> 01:15:49,841
Then those services
are overwhelmed
1465
01:15:50,008 --> 01:15:51,718
because there's a lot
of people that are asking
1466
01:15:51,885 --> 01:15:54,763
for the exact same thing
at the exact same time.
1467
01:15:54,929 --> 01:15:58,183
We have to be able to make sure
that insurance companies
1468
01:15:58,350 --> 01:16:01,436
treat mental health the way
they treat physical health,
1469
01:16:01,603 --> 01:16:03,271
that they don't discount it,
1470
01:16:03,438 --> 01:16:05,899
they don't limit
the number of sessions,
1471
01:16:06,066 --> 01:16:09,652
they don't do things
that they would never consider
doing when a kid has a seizure,
1472
01:16:09,861 --> 01:16:11,571
or a child has
a series of headaches
1473
01:16:11,780 --> 01:16:13,406
that they can't figure out
what's going on.
1474
01:16:13,573 --> 01:16:15,200
They don't say
you only have five sessions,
1475
01:16:15,367 --> 01:16:16,785
or you only have ten sessions.
1476
01:16:16,951 --> 01:16:19,996
They decide on the relief
that the child gets,
1477
01:16:20,163 --> 01:16:22,290
and when the kid is better,
that's when the treatment ends.
1478
01:16:24,959 --> 01:16:26,586
Our children are hurting.
1479
01:16:28,213 --> 01:16:29,798
Mental health supports
for children are too hard
1480
01:16:29,964 --> 01:16:32,175
to navigate and,
and too scarce in supply.
1481
01:16:33,134 --> 01:16:35,845
This results in emergency rooms
and hospitals providing care
1482
01:16:36,012 --> 01:16:38,682
that is best delivered in homes,
communities, and schools.
1483
01:16:39,432 --> 01:16:42,686
A better system to support
children, youth, and families
1484
01:16:42,894 --> 01:16:44,479
means, for starters,
1485
01:16:44,646 --> 01:16:47,982
a stronger and more stable
school nursing workforce,
1486
01:16:48,566 --> 01:16:52,320
one capable of identifying
and screening for
mental health issues,
1487
01:16:52,487 --> 01:16:55,532
providing immediate counseling,
de-escalation, and relief,
1488
01:16:56,157 --> 01:16:58,451
and able to make referrals
to next level care.
1489
01:17:02,622 --> 01:17:05,625
In child mental health,
the greatest advances we've made
1490
01:17:05,834 --> 01:17:08,920
in the last 20 years
tend not to be for medications.
1491
01:17:09,087 --> 01:17:13,049
They tend to be from
psychosocial interventions
that are evidence-based.
1492
01:17:14,801 --> 01:17:16,386
We have to help parents,
1493
01:17:16,553 --> 01:17:18,847
teachers,
and the public recognize
1494
01:17:19,014 --> 01:17:22,225
how real, common, and treatable
these disorders are.
1495
01:17:25,562 --> 01:17:27,605
I was in dialectical
behavior therapy the summer
1496
01:17:27,814 --> 01:17:29,649
between my freshman
and sophomore year,
1497
01:17:29,858 --> 01:17:32,569
so I learned like
a lot of coping mechanisms.
1498
01:17:34,070 --> 01:17:36,322
I was always afraid
of my anxiety,
1499
01:17:36,489 --> 01:17:39,409
so when I would get anxious, I'd
be anxious about being anxious,
1500
01:17:39,576 --> 01:17:42,328
you know how that goes,
and then it just escalates.
1501
01:17:42,495 --> 01:17:45,498
So I really learned to just,
like, radically accept it.
1502
01:17:45,665 --> 01:17:48,460
Like, when my heart rate
was at 115
1503
01:17:48,626 --> 01:17:51,129
a couple weeks ago, I, like,
noticed it, and I was like,
1504
01:17:51,296 --> 01:17:54,007
"Okay, I'm gonna make sure I
don't get into a panic attack."
1505
01:17:54,174 --> 01:17:58,094
But I was making sure to, like,
accept the anxiety and not
1506
01:17:58,636 --> 01:18:01,890
be, like, angry at myself that
I was feeling anxious again,
1507
01:18:02,057 --> 01:18:05,185
or, like, scared that a panic
attack is gonna, like, happen.
1508
01:18:05,352 --> 01:18:07,187
It took me
literally years to, like...
1509
01:18:07,354 --> 01:18:09,731
work on the radical
acceptance skill,
1510
01:18:09,939 --> 01:18:11,858
but, um, it's really,
it's really helped.
1511
01:18:13,026 --> 01:18:15,278
I think I'm on
a good medication regimen.
1512
01:18:15,987 --> 01:18:19,282
I think, with anxiety,
like, sure, it's rough,
1513
01:18:19,449 --> 01:18:21,368
but I'm at a point
in my life where I'm like,
1514
01:18:21,534 --> 01:18:24,204
"Okay, hello, anxiety.
You're here.
1515
01:18:24,371 --> 01:18:26,289
This is cool. Could you
back off a little bit?"
1516
01:18:26,456 --> 01:18:30,210
But, like, I can, I can sit
there in my anxiety and not,
1517
01:18:30,377 --> 01:18:32,712
like, spiral into
a panic attack anymore.
1518
01:18:32,921 --> 01:18:37,217
One of the things that is key
that we need to make sure
that we are doing,
1519
01:18:37,384 --> 01:18:40,470
particularly with teenagers
around their mental wellness,
1520
01:18:40,637 --> 01:18:43,640
is that we make sure
we are not talking about this
1521
01:18:43,807 --> 01:18:45,684
in a way
that makes it permanent.
1522
01:18:46,351 --> 01:18:48,645
When we use the language
of permanence,
1523
01:18:48,812 --> 01:18:50,689
"This is who you are,"
1524
01:18:50,897 --> 01:18:53,274
that you will have to deal with
this for the rest of your life,
1525
01:18:53,441 --> 01:18:55,151
we take away hope.
1526
01:18:55,318 --> 01:18:59,948
And when you've got a teenager
who is anxious, depressed,
1527
01:19:00,115 --> 01:19:04,369
isolated in their own head,
when we take away hope,
1528
01:19:04,536 --> 01:19:06,538
that's when we put them at risk.
1529
01:19:07,706 --> 01:19:11,626
Anxiety isn't something
that you can find a fix for,
1530
01:19:11,793 --> 01:19:13,420
and it completely goes away.
1531
01:19:14,462 --> 01:19:17,507
You always have that, that
little thought in your head,
1532
01:19:17,674 --> 01:19:21,136
or that little thought pattern.
It's come back over and over,
1533
01:19:21,302 --> 01:19:23,763
and it gets really good,
and then all of a sudden,
1534
01:19:23,972 --> 01:19:27,267
I'm in the darkest place ever.
You basically just need to say,
1535
01:19:27,434 --> 01:19:29,144
I've seen this before,
and it's gonna be
1536
01:19:29,310 --> 01:19:31,771
-the same story as always.
1537
01:19:31,980 --> 01:19:35,650
One of the main things that
I learned through therapy was
1538
01:19:36,401 --> 01:19:38,403
that you have to focus on
1539
01:19:38,570 --> 01:19:41,698
not the content of the anxiety,
but the anxiety as a whole.
1540
01:19:42,282 --> 01:19:44,159
So that's something when,
1541
01:19:44,325 --> 01:19:47,370
whenever I start to feel
that anxious feeling coming on,
1542
01:19:48,288 --> 01:19:50,749
um, I'm just able to recognize
that immediately
1543
01:19:50,957 --> 01:19:54,210
and know, "Okay,
this is anxiety,
1544
01:19:54,377 --> 01:19:56,212
and it's something that I've
been dealing with my whole life,
1545
01:19:56,379 --> 01:19:57,839
and I'm able
to deal with it again."
1546
01:19:59,424 --> 01:20:02,344
We are always confronted
with adversity in some way,
1547
01:20:02,510 --> 01:20:06,556
and we need to find
ways in which we can transcend
1548
01:20:06,723 --> 01:20:10,435
the adversities and make
our intention something
1549
01:20:10,602 --> 01:20:13,605
that propels us
into having a good life.
1550
01:20:15,565 --> 01:20:19,402
It is inevitable that you're
going to be disappointed.
1551
01:20:19,569 --> 01:20:23,990
It's inevitable that you are
going to feel distress.
1552
01:20:24,532 --> 01:20:26,034
And if we say to kids,
1553
01:20:26,201 --> 01:20:28,870
"We are going to work
on creating a world
1554
01:20:29,079 --> 01:20:30,997
in which you know everything,
1555
01:20:31,164 --> 01:20:33,124
in which we can make
things predictable,
1556
01:20:33,291 --> 01:20:35,835
we are gonna give you
a certainty device
that's gonna make sure
1557
01:20:36,044 --> 01:20:38,338
that you know exactly
what's gonna happen
1558
01:20:38,505 --> 01:20:40,340
at exactly what time,"
1559
01:20:41,091 --> 01:20:44,219
when that falls apart,
which inevitably it will,
1560
01:20:44,386 --> 01:20:45,720
they are ill-equipped.
1561
01:20:46,262 --> 01:20:49,182
The more that we send
our children into the world
1562
01:20:49,349 --> 01:20:52,894
emotionally ill-equipped
to handle sadness,
1563
01:20:53,103 --> 01:20:56,231
disappointment,
stress, uncertainty,
1564
01:20:56,856 --> 01:20:59,567
the more that,
that they are falling apart
1565
01:20:59,734 --> 01:21:01,569
in front of our eyes.
1566
01:21:01,736 --> 01:21:04,698
They're not equipped, and
then they, and then they say,
1567
01:21:04,864 --> 01:21:06,950
"I can't do it,"
and they bail out.
1568
01:21:07,742 --> 01:21:11,955
So resilience is the ability
not, not to show--
1569
01:21:12,163 --> 01:21:15,709
throw kids into situations
in which they're suffering,
1570
01:21:15,875 --> 01:21:19,254
but to support them
through their distress.
1571
01:21:19,421 --> 01:21:21,381
The child is not wrong
to be anxious,
1572
01:21:21,548 --> 01:21:23,299
and the child
shouldn't be shamed.
1573
01:21:23,466 --> 01:21:26,553
Anxiety is a natural response
to this insanity.
1574
01:21:27,220 --> 01:21:29,973
All of us are anxious.
We're just not realizing it.
1575
01:21:36,354 --> 01:21:39,315
We need a more
serene approach to life
1576
01:21:39,482 --> 01:21:42,444
where you go inward
rather than outward,
1577
01:21:42,610 --> 01:21:45,530
where you connect more to the
heart rather than to the mind.
1578
01:21:46,948 --> 01:21:49,534
Because as much as
we want our children to succeed,
1579
01:21:49,701 --> 01:21:53,121
we also want
to teach them that
they don't have to do anything
1580
01:21:53,288 --> 01:21:56,041
other than be who it is
they are to be successful.
1581
01:21:58,293 --> 01:22:00,754
I tell myself to breathe,
take deep breaths, you know,
1582
01:22:00,920 --> 01:22:03,506
calm myself from that very
elevated state.
1583
01:22:03,673 --> 01:22:05,967
And I'll do this thing,
it's like five, five rules.
1584
01:22:07,761 --> 01:22:10,263
So I'll be like,
"Name five things I can see,
1585
01:22:10,430 --> 01:22:13,933
name five things I can smell,
five things I can hear,
1586
01:22:14,434 --> 01:22:16,269
-five things I can taste."
1587
01:22:16,436 --> 01:22:19,731
And it'll just keep me
more grounded to where I'm at,
1588
01:22:19,898 --> 01:22:22,359
instead of being
in that crazy high level.
1589
01:22:24,402 --> 01:22:27,947
Then I like to remind myself
that this is just a moment,
1590
01:22:28,156 --> 01:22:30,617
and that the moment will pass,
and you will get through this,
1591
01:22:31,284 --> 01:22:32,827
and that it is okay
to experience it,
1592
01:22:32,994 --> 01:22:35,372
and it is okay to sit
in that anxiousness.
1593
01:22:36,373 --> 01:22:38,625
Just reminding
to show love to yourself,
1594
01:22:38,792 --> 01:22:41,503
and just offering nothing
but positive energy
1595
01:22:41,670 --> 01:22:43,046
really just counteracts that.
1596
01:22:45,048 --> 01:22:46,800
I would tell myself
to keep going
1597
01:22:46,966 --> 01:22:49,886
and to not let
my anxiety weigh me down...
1598
01:22:50,887 --> 01:22:53,223
...because right now,
I still have anxiety,
1599
01:22:53,390 --> 01:22:56,351
but life gets better.
You have to be
1600
01:22:56,518 --> 01:22:59,729
brave enough to keep switching
therapies, therapists
1601
01:23:00,563 --> 01:23:03,733
and just keep pushing forward
until you find
what works for you
1602
01:23:03,900 --> 01:23:05,944
because there is something
that works for you.
1603
01:23:06,111 --> 01:23:08,071
There's something that works
for everybody out there.
1604
01:23:29,426 --> 01:23:31,261
You can do all the work,
but if you don't go out
1605
01:23:31,428 --> 01:23:33,930
into the real world and apply
it, you're not getting anywhere.
1606
01:23:34,097 --> 01:23:36,307
And that's,
that's what a lot of the healing
1607
01:23:36,474 --> 01:23:38,393
and a lot
of the progress was about,
1608
01:23:38,560 --> 01:23:40,228
was me getting out
of my comfort zone.
1609
01:23:41,521 --> 01:23:46,109
And you always have fallbacks,
you always have setbacks,
1610
01:23:46,317 --> 01:23:49,446
but I'd rather take
three steps forward
1611
01:23:49,612 --> 01:23:52,282
and two steps back than
just stand in one place.
1612
01:23:52,866 --> 01:23:56,119
What we've learned is that
anxiety is just, is just energy.
1613
01:23:56,327 --> 01:24:00,832
And what's most important
is how we use it.
1614
01:24:07,130 --> 01:24:10,842
And we know just from
a biological standpoint
1615
01:24:11,009 --> 01:24:13,636
how beneficial exercise can be
1616
01:24:13,803 --> 01:24:19,100
with respect to lowering stress
hormones and boosting mood.
1617
01:24:23,104 --> 01:24:24,522
You can take any energy,
1618
01:24:24,689 --> 01:24:27,442
flip it the right way,
and make it work for you.
1619
01:24:28,318 --> 01:24:30,445
In a lot of cases, that,
that just comes with, like,
1620
01:24:30,612 --> 01:24:33,156
taking care of myself.
I know when I'm burnt out,
1621
01:24:33,365 --> 01:24:37,035
or if I'm exhausted,
or feeling overwhelmed,
1622
01:24:37,202 --> 01:24:38,953
that's when I get
triggered more.
1623
01:24:39,120 --> 01:24:42,665
So a lot of the time, I try
to space things out in my life.
1624
01:24:42,832 --> 01:24:45,960
I try to take care of my body.
1625
01:24:46,127 --> 01:24:48,588
I really focus
on the really basic things
1626
01:24:48,755 --> 01:24:50,382
because I know in the long run
1627
01:24:50,548 --> 01:24:53,551
how quickly they spiral
into an anxious episode.
1628
01:24:58,765 --> 01:25:01,434
I worry most about--
1629
01:25:02,686 --> 01:25:04,479
My overthinking
is what kills me,
1630
01:25:04,646 --> 01:25:07,440
is not being able
to figure out if,
1631
01:25:07,607 --> 01:25:10,610
what I want to do
with myself or the future,
1632
01:25:10,777 --> 01:25:13,780
what I want just to do
in, in, in this life.
1633
01:25:13,947 --> 01:25:15,990
I see the stars.
I don't see just the moon.
1634
01:25:17,617 --> 01:25:20,912
The way I deal with anxiety now
is just try to stay positive,
1635
01:25:21,079 --> 01:25:23,331
because anxiety is part
of your mental health.
1636
01:25:23,498 --> 01:25:26,334
And so good mental health
can try to decrease on that.
1637
01:25:26,918 --> 01:25:30,380
Manage my stress,
eating right, exercising.
1638
01:25:31,006 --> 01:25:32,549
♪ It's a luxury
to live, lot of risk ♪
1639
01:25:32,716 --> 01:25:34,509
♪ Gotta scramble
just to survive ♪
1640
01:25:34,676 --> 01:25:36,219
♪ You know there's something
better that will come ♪
1641
01:25:36,428 --> 01:25:37,762
♪ You gonna rise and... ♪
1642
01:25:38,513 --> 01:25:40,974
I found music. I have
a passion for it, I enjoy it
1643
01:25:41,933 --> 01:25:45,270
as a way of being able to write,
and be personal about it,
1644
01:25:46,021 --> 01:25:50,150
and to get rid
of that bottled up energy.
1645
01:25:53,570 --> 01:25:57,699
♪ Run, run, run, run ♪
1646
01:25:58,533 --> 01:26:01,661
♪ Run away, young one ♪
1647
01:26:01,828 --> 01:26:04,372
I've learned to channel
all that anxious energy
1648
01:26:04,539 --> 01:26:06,583
that I have into music.
1649
01:26:06,750 --> 01:26:10,628
So when I'm feeling anxious,
just, you know,
1650
01:26:10,795 --> 01:26:13,673
basically repurposing that
in a way to create something,
1651
01:26:13,840 --> 01:26:16,092
something beautiful that,
1652
01:26:16,259 --> 01:26:18,845
that I can be proud of and,
you know, share with others.
1653
01:26:19,012 --> 01:26:22,891
♪ Ooh, I feel so ready to fly ♪
1654
01:26:23,975 --> 01:26:25,935
Stress is not the problem.
1655
01:26:26,102 --> 01:26:29,731
The problem is focusing
on something meaningful.
1656
01:26:30,190 --> 01:26:32,901
Now, if you think
about a karate master
1657
01:26:33,068 --> 01:26:35,320
who has the job
of breaking a board,
1658
01:26:35,904 --> 01:26:39,616
the focus of the karate master
is not to see the board.
1659
01:26:40,158 --> 01:26:43,495
The focus
of the karate master is
where you're going to wind up.
1660
01:26:44,120 --> 01:26:48,041
So the idea is not to focus
on stress,
1661
01:26:48,208 --> 01:26:50,085
but to focus
on what is meaningful.
1662
01:26:50,251 --> 01:26:52,253
[crowd chattering
and applauding]
1663
01:26:54,839 --> 01:26:57,634
Me and my friend Hannah
are both definitely active
1664
01:26:57,801 --> 01:26:59,886
when it comes to wanting
to instill change
1665
01:27:00,053 --> 01:27:02,180
in our communities
and our country.
1666
01:27:02,347 --> 01:27:04,015
And so we'll go to protests,
1667
01:27:04,182 --> 01:27:06,017
and we'll sign petitions
and stuff,
1668
01:27:06,184 --> 01:27:08,103
whether that's
for racial injustices
1669
01:27:08,269 --> 01:27:09,729
or environmental issues.
1670
01:27:13,358 --> 01:27:15,735
Relationships are
incredibly important.
1671
01:27:15,902 --> 01:27:17,654
Let's just call
that connecting time.
1672
01:27:18,863 --> 01:27:20,949
Relationships with people
and the planet.
1673
01:27:22,784 --> 01:27:24,828
And what happens
with that is you say,
1674
01:27:24,994 --> 01:27:30,291
"I see, the way to be happy
is actually be of service
1675
01:27:30,500 --> 01:27:32,836
to other people,
be of service to nature."
1676
01:27:35,130 --> 01:27:39,134
And then when I stop living as
if all I am is a separate self,
1677
01:27:39,300 --> 01:27:40,844
things start to get better.
1678
01:27:43,304 --> 01:27:45,515
-Alright, are you ready to go,
dribble?
- Yeah.
1679
01:27:46,975 --> 01:27:48,977
The confidence that I've built,
I think it started
1680
01:27:49,144 --> 01:27:50,770
with basketball and being able
1681
01:27:50,937 --> 01:27:54,065
to get a base
for my confidence from there.
1682
01:27:54,232 --> 01:27:56,651
If you can, try to snap it
a little harder this time.
1683
01:27:57,110 --> 01:27:58,862
I do a lot of coaching now.
1684
01:27:59,029 --> 01:28:02,073
It's really cool for me
to be able to teach other kids
1685
01:28:02,240 --> 01:28:04,743
what I worked on my whole life
1686
01:28:04,909 --> 01:28:07,704
and it's all the experiences
that I went through
1687
01:28:07,871 --> 01:28:10,040
that are making me able to be
1688
01:28:10,206 --> 01:28:13,001
a good coach
to kids that are like me.
1689
01:28:14,753 --> 01:28:16,379
Basketball is something
that I love
1690
01:28:16,588 --> 01:28:19,758
and that I'm good at
and that I can get better at.
1691
01:28:20,216 --> 01:28:24,804
And I carried it over to, um,
my struggle with anxiety.
1692
01:28:24,971 --> 01:28:27,640
And then once I started getting
through the anxiety,
1693
01:28:28,183 --> 01:28:30,310
that built another layer
of confidence that,
1694
01:28:30,518 --> 01:28:32,187
uh, I didn't know that I had.
1695
01:28:36,191 --> 01:28:38,234
We are built for connection.
1696
01:28:38,401 --> 01:28:41,738
You were never created
to be singular.
1697
01:28:42,655 --> 01:28:46,117
You're not best singular.
You're best plural.
1698
01:28:47,243 --> 01:28:51,122
So I think in a world that we've
been challenged by so much
1699
01:28:51,289 --> 01:28:52,957
like never before,
1700
01:28:53,124 --> 01:28:56,753
we've got to get out
of this place of isolation
1701
01:28:57,712 --> 01:29:00,173
and get back to plural.
1702
01:29:00,340 --> 01:29:02,884
People with tremendous amounts
of anxiety
1703
01:29:03,385 --> 01:29:09,766
that may in part be due to this
false view of a separate self.
1704
01:29:10,809 --> 01:29:12,686
When that dissolves,
when they realize,
1705
01:29:12,852 --> 01:29:14,688
yes, they do have a body,
of course,
1706
01:29:14,854 --> 01:29:18,441
but they're also an identity
as a relational being,
1707
01:29:19,359 --> 01:29:22,737
there's a feeling of calm
and belonging that arises.
1708
01:29:25,615 --> 01:29:27,992
A friend of mine
who also experiences
1709
01:29:28,159 --> 01:29:29,828
anxiety and depression and...
1710
01:29:29,994 --> 01:29:31,955
I remember
just one day sitting with her,
1711
01:29:32,122 --> 01:29:33,832
and we were laying on the floor
1712
01:29:33,998 --> 01:29:35,750
and it was pitch-black.
The lights were off
1713
01:29:35,917 --> 01:29:37,961
and I was just telling
her everything.
1714
01:29:39,796 --> 01:29:42,507
And she made me aware that
what I was feeling is valid...
1715
01:29:44,175 --> 01:29:46,261
...and that there are ways
to get through it.
1716
01:29:49,431 --> 01:29:52,976
Now that I'm older, you know,
I think there's less of a stigma
1717
01:29:53,143 --> 01:29:55,145
about talking
about mental health.
1718
01:29:55,311 --> 01:29:57,605
You know, I have friends that
deal with all sorts of things.
1719
01:29:57,772 --> 01:30:02,110
And, you know,
we have that open dialogue,
which I think is very helpful.
1720
01:30:02,277 --> 01:30:05,488
Because when you're able to talk
about that and not feel like
1721
01:30:06,322 --> 01:30:08,616
people are judging you,
it's, it's really helpful.
1722
01:30:10,368 --> 01:30:14,456
I'm going into medicine,
and I'm really passionate
about psychiatry,
1723
01:30:14,664 --> 01:30:17,125
um, which there aren't a lot of,
a lot of Black people
1724
01:30:17,292 --> 01:30:19,461
in psychiatry,
especially Black women.
1725
01:30:19,669 --> 01:30:23,089
So I think it's really important
for me to, you know,
1726
01:30:23,256 --> 01:30:27,427
really look into that field
and hopefully, you know,
make a change.
1727
01:30:30,221 --> 01:30:32,724
When I went to college,
like, freshman year
1728
01:30:32,891 --> 01:30:35,060
was honestly one
of the greatest years of my life
1729
01:30:35,226 --> 01:30:37,437
just because, like,
I was out of the house
1730
01:30:37,645 --> 01:30:39,022
for the first time ever.
1731
01:30:40,023 --> 01:30:42,108
Living authentically
1732
01:30:42,275 --> 01:30:43,860
when I'm away from home...
1733
01:30:45,111 --> 01:30:46,279
...it's everything,
it's freedom,
1734
01:30:46,446 --> 01:30:49,449
it's just me being me.
1735
01:30:51,117 --> 01:30:53,870
I know the depth of pain
that I felt when I was
in eighth grade,
1736
01:30:54,788 --> 01:30:57,499
and ninth grade,
and tenth grade,
1737
01:30:57,707 --> 01:31:00,543
and all the way up to probably
a couple of years ago,
a year ago.
1738
01:31:02,545 --> 01:31:04,297
And I have the answer.
1739
01:31:05,131 --> 01:31:08,843
I do. I have the answer.
We all do. It's in us.
1740
01:31:11,930 --> 01:31:14,933
I was really angry with God,
but I mostly--
1741
01:31:15,100 --> 01:31:17,519
it wasn't that I was just angry,
I also felt
1742
01:31:17,727 --> 01:31:20,146
I wasn't worthy of his love.
1743
01:31:21,106 --> 01:31:23,066
Like, I had made
too many mistakes.
1744
01:31:25,568 --> 01:31:28,697
But I know now that God
created me for a purpose,
1745
01:31:29,698 --> 01:31:33,702
to be joyful, and to laugh,
and to love, and be loved.
1746
01:31:34,994 --> 01:31:38,248
We talk about this idea of,
"It takes a village", it does.
1747
01:31:39,124 --> 01:31:41,626
So if you're an aunt,
if you're an uncle,
1748
01:31:41,835 --> 01:31:45,088
if you're a brother or sister,
if you're a friend,
1749
01:31:45,255 --> 01:31:48,591
we need to start
paying attention
to somebody who is struggling
1750
01:31:49,300 --> 01:31:53,346
because sometimes, they don't
need just professional advice,
1751
01:31:53,930 --> 01:31:56,766
but they need somebody
that just walks with them.
1752
01:31:58,560 --> 01:32:01,646
There needs to be a connection
1753
01:32:01,855 --> 01:32:06,192
between young people and people
1754
01:32:06,359 --> 01:32:08,111
that are their leaders,
1755
01:32:08,278 --> 01:32:12,782
their tutors, their mentors,
their pastors, their parents,
1756
01:32:13,366 --> 01:32:16,161
so we can connect
and communicate.
1757
01:32:25,337 --> 01:32:27,172
It's too late.
1758
01:32:27,964 --> 01:32:29,924
It's never too late for Cubby.
1759
01:32:39,517 --> 01:32:40,935
The advice
that I would give to parents,
1760
01:32:41,102 --> 01:32:42,437
uh, who have anxious kids,
1761
01:32:43,396 --> 01:32:44,856
sometimes, they really do just--
1762
01:32:45,023 --> 01:32:46,775
the kids just really do
just need your help,
1763
01:32:47,442 --> 01:32:49,277
and you really just need
to be there and just
1764
01:32:49,444 --> 01:32:50,570
give them a big hug,
1765
01:32:50,779 --> 01:32:52,364
or just ask them what's wrong.
1766
01:32:52,530 --> 01:32:54,407
And, uh, I think that you sh--
1767
01:32:54,574 --> 01:32:56,701
you can probably figure it
out from there, just--
1768
01:32:58,036 --> 01:32:59,245
It kind of just goes
without saying.
1769
01:32:59,412 --> 01:33:00,663
You just need
to be there for them
1770
01:33:00,872 --> 01:33:02,248
if they're really upset
about something.
1771
01:33:02,415 --> 01:33:04,084
My mission is not to be
the perfect parent.
1772
01:33:04,250 --> 01:33:06,294
My mission is to be
an awakened one.
1773
01:33:06,461 --> 01:33:09,339
And part of being awakened
is looking in that mirror
1774
01:33:09,506 --> 01:33:11,466
and seeing that shadow aspect.
1775
01:33:11,633 --> 01:33:13,009
And parents don't want to look,
1776
01:33:13,176 --> 01:33:14,636
but we have to look at them.
1777
01:33:14,844 --> 01:33:16,888
We have to be brave
for our children.
1778
01:33:17,055 --> 01:33:19,641
This is not about
being perfect parents.
This is about being awakened.
1779
01:33:19,849 --> 01:33:21,393
You know,
parents feel shame and guilt,
1780
01:33:21,559 --> 01:33:23,603
and I go,
"But that's your opportunity."
1781
01:33:23,812 --> 01:33:26,523
Look at it as the turning point.
Look at it as the invitation,
1782
01:33:27,357 --> 01:33:29,192
and, and then
let's course correct.
1783
01:33:31,736 --> 01:33:33,863
A lesson for me has been...
1784
01:33:35,448 --> 01:33:37,826
...sort of understanding
that these things
1785
01:33:37,992 --> 01:33:40,203
don't just come out of thin air.
1786
01:33:41,204 --> 01:33:44,082
And, you know,
the way that I am is a product
1787
01:33:44,249 --> 01:33:47,585
of who my parents were
and who my family is
1788
01:33:47,752 --> 01:33:53,550
and the way that Cooper
reacts to a situation and exists
1789
01:33:53,717 --> 01:33:58,096
in the world is, you know,
it's, it's not about blaming,
1790
01:33:58,263 --> 01:34:03,893
but it's about recognizing...
yourself in them
1791
01:34:04,060 --> 01:34:07,564
so that you can be better,
and you can help them be better.
1792
01:34:09,482 --> 01:34:12,318
I felt this need to be
the perfect parent,
1793
01:34:12,485 --> 01:34:15,530
and what I've learned through it
all is, I'm perfectly imperfect
1794
01:34:15,697 --> 01:34:17,407
and still figuring
things out too.
1795
01:34:17,574 --> 01:34:19,784
And I think that's important.
1796
01:34:19,993 --> 01:34:23,038
I think as parents,
we can put a lot of pressure
1797
01:34:23,204 --> 01:34:26,082
on ourselves, um,
and it doesn't help our kids.
1798
01:34:26,249 --> 01:34:28,335
I would advise
parents to prepare
1799
01:34:28,501 --> 01:34:30,045
for the long haul as well.
1800
01:34:30,754 --> 01:34:33,381
-It's not something that can be
dealt with right away, right?
-Mm-hmm.
1801
01:34:34,883 --> 01:34:36,968
It's not--
it doesn't end right away.
1802
01:34:37,135 --> 01:34:39,512
I mean,
it may go on for a long time.
1803
01:34:42,265 --> 01:34:44,351
One of the things
that I'll carry with me
1804
01:34:44,517 --> 01:34:46,394
as I move forward
in my parenting
1805
01:34:46,561 --> 01:34:50,273
is to give Sevey
more space to be who Sevey is.
1806
01:34:52,108 --> 01:34:54,736
I, I think maybe I put
a lot of pressure on Sevey
1807
01:34:54,944 --> 01:34:56,154
to be a certain way.
1808
01:34:57,197 --> 01:34:58,782
And if I could go back
1809
01:34:58,990 --> 01:35:01,910
and allow things
to just be and unfold,
1810
01:35:02,535 --> 01:35:05,038
I think it would have been
a lot healthier for both of us.
1811
01:35:05,997 --> 01:35:09,376
I think that I have
a much better understanding
1812
01:35:09,542 --> 01:35:13,254
of what it might feel like
to walk in Sevey's shoes.
1813
01:35:14,464 --> 01:35:16,675
I think
it's really important to see
1814
01:35:17,550 --> 01:35:19,803
anxiety through her eyes,
not mine.
1815
01:35:21,930 --> 01:35:23,640
Sevey, what do you think
you need to do?
1816
01:35:24,265 --> 01:35:26,434
I think I definitely
need to learn to cope
1817
01:35:26,601 --> 01:35:28,436
with it much better than I am
1818
01:35:29,229 --> 01:35:30,772
because I'm not coping with,
1819
01:35:30,980 --> 01:35:32,774
with it right now
if I'm gonna be honest.
1820
01:35:33,942 --> 01:35:36,361
I don't know how.
1821
01:35:37,028 --> 01:35:39,239
In our family story,
there is no magic ending
1822
01:35:39,406 --> 01:35:41,199
to Sevey's anxiety.
1823
01:35:41,366 --> 01:35:43,159
She still struggles,
and I still find it
1824
01:35:43,326 --> 01:35:44,828
challenging as her mom.
1825
01:35:46,287 --> 01:35:49,249
And I see that it's a really
scary world for these kids.
1826
01:35:51,042 --> 01:35:53,253
They're walking a path
that we've never walked,
1827
01:35:53,753 --> 01:35:55,547
but it doesn't have
to be debilitating.
1828
01:35:56,089 --> 01:35:59,342
It's our job as parents,
as friends, and as family
1829
01:35:59,509 --> 01:36:03,346
to walk alongside them
and give them all the resources
1830
01:36:03,513 --> 01:36:05,724
they need, so they know
they're not alone.
1831
01:36:45,805 --> 01:36:47,932
I have suffered from anxiety
1832
01:36:48,141 --> 01:36:50,268
and/or depression
since I was 18.
1833
01:36:50,435 --> 01:36:53,938
Everyone's human.
Everyone has problems.
1834
01:36:54,147 --> 01:36:57,567
Everyone feels yucky
on the inside sometimes.
1835
01:36:57,734 --> 01:36:59,569
Being somebody who's, uh,
1836
01:36:59,736 --> 01:37:01,905
dealt with my share
of, of mental health struggles,
1837
01:37:02,113 --> 01:37:03,823
specifically anxiety
and depression,
1838
01:37:04,032 --> 01:37:07,285
I know this can be an extremely
tough time to, to navigate.
1839
01:37:07,452 --> 01:37:09,162
These are things
that everybody goes through.
1840
01:37:09,329 --> 01:37:10,789
We all have our trials
and errors
1841
01:37:10,955 --> 01:37:12,207
with different things
in our lives,
1842
01:37:12,374 --> 01:37:14,668
and realizing that eventually,
1843
01:37:14,834 --> 01:37:17,462
in due time, you know,
this too shall pass.
1844
01:37:17,629 --> 01:37:20,507
Speak up. Don't live in silence.
1845
01:37:20,674 --> 01:37:22,842
Because who you are,
and what you do,
1846
01:37:23,051 --> 01:37:25,553
and what you're
going through is not wrong.
1847
01:37:25,720 --> 01:37:28,765
Be your own ally.
Be gentle with yourself.
1848
01:37:28,932 --> 01:37:30,475
If you know how to be
kind to yourself,
1849
01:37:30,642 --> 01:37:33,269
you can start feeling safe
in your own skin.
1850
01:37:33,436 --> 01:37:36,439
Write down my thoughts
and feelings every day,
1851
01:37:36,606 --> 01:37:39,234
no matter how bad I'm feeling,
how anxious I'm feeling.
1852
01:37:39,734 --> 01:37:43,738
And once I get it out, uh,
it's not as powerful anymore.
1853
01:37:43,905 --> 01:37:47,492
Find things, little things
that, that make you happy.
1854
01:37:47,659 --> 01:37:49,494
I love to be in the kitchen,
I love to cook,
1855
01:37:49,661 --> 01:37:51,329
and I love to listen to music.
1856
01:37:51,496 --> 01:37:53,373
I have a little guitar
that I play.
1857
01:37:53,540 --> 01:37:55,375
Singing, I'm trying
to sing every day
1858
01:37:55,542 --> 01:37:58,128
and let my voice express
what I'm feeling every day.
1859
01:37:58,294 --> 01:38:00,171
I just make a lot of lists.
1860
01:38:00,338 --> 01:38:03,133
I have lists for things
I need to do that day,
1861
01:38:03,299 --> 01:38:06,553
long-term, short-term,
fun stuff, not fun stuff,
1862
01:38:06,720 --> 01:38:08,304
gets it out of my mind
and on paper.
1863
01:38:08,471 --> 01:38:11,891
Mental health conditions
can be scary and intimidating,
1864
01:38:12,600 --> 01:38:16,104
but I choose to believe
that they just mean
1865
01:38:16,271 --> 01:38:18,732
that we're able to see
the world in more beautiful,
1866
01:38:18,898 --> 01:38:21,359
more vibrant colors,
and getting treatment
1867
01:38:21,526 --> 01:38:23,862
is a way to learn
how to paint with those colors.
1868
01:38:24,029 --> 01:38:27,115
It does get better
and easier as life goes on
1869
01:38:27,282 --> 01:38:29,409
and you start to get
to know yourself more
1870
01:38:29,576 --> 01:38:33,663
and what will trigger certain
instances of anxiety,
1871
01:38:33,830 --> 01:38:36,958
and where you feel comfortable
and safe, so, I would just say,
1872
01:38:37,751 --> 01:38:39,377
don't ever feel
like you're a weirdo for it
1873
01:38:39,544 --> 01:38:41,129
because we're all weirdos.
1874
01:38:44,132 --> 01:38:47,927
It's hard to communicate
how you're feeling about
1875
01:38:48,136 --> 01:38:52,307
anxiety, and this is gonna
sound very movie-like,
1876
01:38:52,474 --> 01:38:55,977
but how you're sort of trapped
in a box sometimes.
1877
01:38:56,603 --> 01:39:02,650
People-- A clear box.
People hear you and understand,
1878
01:39:02,817 --> 01:39:05,236
but they don't understand
through experience,
1879
01:39:05,403 --> 01:39:08,531
and that's when it's harder
to get through to them.
1880
01:39:08,698 --> 01:39:11,409
♪ When I first started ♪
1881
01:39:11,576 --> 01:39:15,538
♪ To feel you takin' over ♪
1882
01:39:16,373 --> 01:39:20,543
♪ I had no idea what to do ♪
1883
01:39:21,503 --> 01:39:24,547
♪ I didn't know
what I was feeling ♪
1884
01:39:24,714 --> 01:39:27,842
♪ I couldn't put it into words ♪
1885
01:39:28,009 --> 01:39:33,890
♪ But I'll tell you
how badly it hurt ♪
1886
01:39:34,057 --> 01:39:39,187
♪ But along the way
I found an interesting ♪
1887
01:39:39,354 --> 01:39:43,108
♪ Newsworthy story that ♪
1888
01:39:43,316 --> 01:39:45,610
♪ I am strong enough ♪
1889
01:39:45,777 --> 01:39:49,906
♪ To face the fears
and I am brave enough now ♪
1890
01:39:50,073 --> 01:39:55,912
♪ And I'm not gonna
let you control me anymore ♪
1891
01:39:56,079 --> 01:39:59,082
♪ I'm gonna break out
of my glass box ♪
1892
01:39:59,290 --> 01:40:03,378
♪ And gonna shut that door ♪
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