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In the criminal justice
system, the people are represented
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by two separate yet
equally important groups...
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the police
who investigate crime,
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and the district attorneys
who prosecute the offenders.
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These are their stories.
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No!
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No-oo!
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No-oo!
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So he missed a lay
up at the buzzer. So what?
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It just ticks me off.
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Some pituitary freak
makes more in 40 minutes
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than I make all year.
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Who told you life was fair?
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Excuse us, sir.
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Aw, another kid.
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Mother of God.
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How am I going to tell Denise?
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How am I going to face her?
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We'll tell her, ma'am.
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How old is Andrew?
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Was.
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How old was he?
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11 months.
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He never even made it
to his birthday.
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The boy's father?
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Who knows?
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Where's Denise work?
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One of the offices.
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Columbus Circle.
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They was rough-housing
over by the window.
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I told Gregory
to get away from there.
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I said,
"Put him in his jumper."
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Stay with her.
Make sure she's okay.
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Excuse me,
Mrs. winters?
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Hello?
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Sorry.
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Are you Denise winters?
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Sit down, please.
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Mrs. winters,
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there's been a shooting.
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Gregory?
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He's in the hospital.
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Last we heard,
serious, but stable.
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Oh my God! wait, whoa, whoa, whoa!
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Let me go!
We'll take you to him.
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We'll take you to him.
But that's not all.
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What you talking about?
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Andrew.
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He's dead.
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You're lying.
You're lying.
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That's my baby.
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My baby.
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No, no, not my baby.
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No. No!
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Aaah!
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Oh God!
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No... my baby.
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Six in one week.
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At this clip,
we're going to have
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a worse infant mortality rate
than Ethiopia.
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Anybody see anything?
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What do you think?
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Slugs are from an automatic,
that's all we know.
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They go through the door,
hit the wall,
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they're too deformed
for a positive make.
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You don't have one slug
to get a match from?
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Might get one from the baby.
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One went right through him,
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and one is lodged
in the base of his neck.
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They think.
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How's the older brother doing?
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Not good. He still hasn't
regained consciousness.
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Mushrooms.
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What?
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That's what they call them.
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It's a video game.
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You shoot at the centipedes.
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The mushrooms get in the way
of the bullets.
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Video game...
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that's hysterical.
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Hey, give me a break, Max,
I didn't make it up.
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He's a little tired.
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We're all tired.
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This thing about drugs?
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A place gets sprayed
with automatic fire,
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you assume it's not because
the stereo's too loud.
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Nobody ever has a verbal
altercation anymore, you notice that?
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A good fist-fight.
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Somebody looks at you cockeyed,
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you whip out a Mac-10.
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Mmm.
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I got 10 bucks says
the older brother's a dealer
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and this is just a payback.
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Judge Haberman, please.
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Tell him it's Cragen.
Captain Donald Cragen.
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I need a warrant.
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Why you always come too late?
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Excuse me?
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I said how come
the police never there
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before somebody gets shot?
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With all due respect, ma'am,
how are we supposed to know
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before somebody
starts shooting?
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Max!
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Used?
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Hasn't been cleaned lately,
that's for sure.
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That ain't Gregory's.
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It belonged to Gregory's daddy.
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We kept it for protection.
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Ain't got bullets no more.
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Yes, ma'am, I understand.
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But you still need
a permit for a handgun.
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What happened to the bike?
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What?
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Had an accident.
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You guys hang
with Gregory winters?
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We know Gregory.
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See somebody in
the building last night?
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Someone who doesn't live here?
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I look like a doorman?
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What about you?
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People come and go.
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Maybe they dealing,
I don't know.
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Mike, did you say
something about dealers?
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Why else are you asking then?
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'Cause a boy was hurt
and his brother was killed.
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Come on.
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What did you see?
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He didn't see nothing.
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Hey, who's asking you, pal?
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When I was coming in,
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this dude was sitting here.
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Yeah?
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I never saw him before.
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What did he look like?
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He had some tracks on the side,
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and his mouth were
all sparked out.
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It's a checkerboard cut,
gold caps on his teeth.
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Gold caps.
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Your mom and dad around?
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You see him, Tonel?
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What, am I supposed to know
everybody in the neighborhood?
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Nope, just a possible
accomplice to a murder.
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That's enough.
He's only a boy.
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So were the victims, ma'am.
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What about the one who ran out?
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Whoever it was ran him over.
He told you that already.
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Ain't that enough?
Do you knowwhat happens to him
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if those boys on the block
think he's a snitch?
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Let's go.
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Wait, wait a minute.
Tonel.
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Just a sec, all right?
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If you were looking for a
bad guy in your neighborhood,
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where would you start?
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You don't have to snitch.
We're just talking here.
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The crack house
above the bodega.
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Which one?
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99th and Manhattan.
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Raise up! Yo! Yo!
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Raise up!
Raise up, man! Raise up!
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Police!
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- Get out of there!
- Don't even breathe!
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Get out of there!
Don't even breathe!
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Get your butt in here!
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Come here, come here!
Up against the wall!
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Move it! I said
now! Move it, now!
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Hands behind your head!
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Behind your head!
Spread your legs.
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Spread your legs.
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Come on, move it.
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Let's go.
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Look towards the window.
Spread your legs.
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Face the window!
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Mike!
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Gimme your hand.
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Check out over there.
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Gimme your hand.
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Max!
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Yeah?
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What've you got?
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You believe this firepower?
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You guys are so trigger-happy,
why don't you join the army?
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9mm.
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Nice and clean.
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Hardly a scratch.
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That was in the boy's neck?
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Sometimes...
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bullets take
a very strange route.
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This one corkscrewed
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down into the right lung.
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We're lucky we found it.
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So which one was it?
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Tec-9.
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Superior spraying power,
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unsurpassed
for penetrating steel doors.
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That's terrific.
How good's the match?
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The slug you got
from the winters kid?
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Fired from this gun,
no question.
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Prints?
Multiples.
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One set, loud and clear.
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I wasn't there.
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Your prints were.
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I got an alibi.
Who cares?
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That's the gun
that killed the baby.
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It's got your fingerprints
all over it.
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Maybe the gun killed him,
but not me!
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Roneld, stupid and tough
is a bad combination.
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Yeah, well, it works
for you, man, right?
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That's funny.
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Yeah, he'll be
the class clown at Spofford.
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Yo, forget Spofford.
I ain't going to no Spofford.
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I'm calling the DA.
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You find who did it?
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Maybe.
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Listen,
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Did Gregory know a guy
named Roneld Griggs?
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I don't know. why?
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He had the gun that...
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We need a motive.
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Was Gregory involved with...
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with what?
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Drugs?
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Wednesday and Thursday nights,
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Saturday mornings,
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Gregory plays basketball.
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Monday and Tuesday nights,
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he got choir practice.
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Gregory ain't perfect,
but he ain't into no dope.
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I can guarantee you that.
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No offense, but sometimes
you can't tell these kinds of things.
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Maybe you can't,
but I sure as hell can.
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Look, I know it's not easy...
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Easy?
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Mister...
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I got a dead baby,
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a boy who may be crippled...
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and a supervisor who tells me
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that going to the morgue
and to the hospital
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is considered personal time.
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And now you saying
maybe Greg...
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Gregory was on drugs?
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Maybe he brought
this on himself?
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I'm sorry.
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Get out of here.
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All right?
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I got work to do.
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Gregory Winters was
a classic point guard.
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He ran the floor,
you know what I'm saying?
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Kid was the brains
of this team.
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Then he isn't in a gang?
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He didn't have time for that.
He thought those guys were lame.
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You ever see him hang out
with a kid
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with a checkerboard haircut
and sparked out teeth?
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That kinda crap's out there.
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But like I say,
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my boys don't have
time for stuff like that.
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Thanks.
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Gregory winters is a good kid.
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He plays ball, that's it.
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No link to Roneld whatsoever.
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A lot of partial prints.
Only Roneld's for sure.
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Does that make a case
against him? No, it does not.
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But if he didn't fire the gun,
at least he knows who did.
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Hey look, I would like
to have another crack at him.
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Fine, great. Only this time make
sure a parent is in the room.
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Otherwise, legally, the kid's
flapping his lips for nothing.
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Be gentle, Mike.
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Don't break the little creep's
trigger finger.
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Ronnie never killed nobody.
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Right. He's a good boy.
270
00:16:58,517 --> 00:17:00,815
Just two prior j gun possessions,
271
00:17:00,853 --> 00:17:02,320
and a dope misdemeanor.
272
00:17:02,354 --> 00:17:04,083
What about yesterday?
273
00:17:04,123 --> 00:17:06,523
Let's make that
three guns, two drugs.
274
00:17:06,558 --> 00:17:08,458
Sounds to me
like a year, minimum.
275
00:17:08,494 --> 00:17:09,927
Ain't nothing to it.
276
00:17:09,962 --> 00:17:11,259
Oh, why is that?
277
00:17:11,296 --> 00:17:13,958
You like it in prison, punk?
278
00:17:19,805 --> 00:17:23,104
Maybe if we knew exactly
what you was looking for...
279
00:17:23,142 --> 00:17:25,770
we want to know
who pulled the damn trigger.
280
00:17:25,811 --> 00:17:28,974
Because it sure as hell
looks like your boy did it.
281
00:17:37,656 --> 00:17:39,248
Tell them, Ronnie.
282
00:17:39,291 --> 00:17:41,623
No.
283
00:17:46,331 --> 00:17:49,528
You think you can play
this fool game with me?!
284
00:17:53,839 --> 00:17:55,636
Tell them.
285
00:17:59,344 --> 00:18:01,278
I lent the gun to Dizz.
286
00:18:04,116 --> 00:18:05,481
Who's Dizz?
287
00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:08,609
His cousin.
288
00:18:10,889 --> 00:18:12,686
What's he look like?
289
00:18:12,724 --> 00:18:15,249
He's got some
290
00:18:15,294 --> 00:18:17,956
design cut in his head...
291
00:18:17,996 --> 00:18:19,827
like a checkerboard.
292
00:18:20,999 --> 00:18:23,490
I don't suppose he's sporting
a lot of gold teeth?
293
00:18:23,535 --> 00:18:26,470
Fort Knox.
294
00:18:46,158 --> 00:18:48,023
Yo! Yo!
295
00:18:49,027 --> 00:18:52,155
Which one of you guys
is Dizz williams?
296
00:18:54,433 --> 00:18:56,025
Hey, Dizz! Go, man!
297
00:18:56,135 --> 00:18:57,625
C'mon, man!
298
00:19:01,173 --> 00:19:03,107
Look at them gold teeth.
299
00:19:03,142 --> 00:19:04,632
Hello, Dizz.
300
00:19:04,676 --> 00:19:06,610
The Tec-9 you got
from your cousin Ronnie...
301
00:19:06,645 --> 00:19:08,510
who used it
when you were on the stoop?
302
00:19:08,547 --> 00:19:11,482
I want a lawyer!
Give him a lawyer.
303
00:19:11,517 --> 00:19:15,453
Who used the gun?
I want to know the name, Dizz!
304
00:19:15,487 --> 00:19:16,977
I ain't got no name!
305
00:19:17,022 --> 00:19:19,547
Wrong. You got a name,
306
00:19:19,591 --> 00:19:21,456
and pretty soon you're going
to have a number.
307
00:19:21,493 --> 00:19:23,859
You're under arrest for
the murder of Andrew winters.
308
00:19:23,896 --> 00:19:25,329
You have the right
to remain silent,
309
00:19:25,364 --> 00:19:26,956
and refuse to answer questions.
310
00:19:26,999 --> 00:19:29,229
Anything you do say may be used
against you in a court of law.
311
00:19:29,268 --> 00:19:32,795
You're saying you've never been
in that building before, huh?
312
00:19:32,838 --> 00:19:35,136
I said I was in South Carolina
until last night.
313
00:19:35,174 --> 00:19:37,074
That's right, with family.
314
00:19:37,109 --> 00:19:39,202
How could you shoot the hell
out of the winters family
315
00:19:39,244 --> 00:19:41,337
if you were down south
with yourfamily?
316
00:19:41,380 --> 00:19:43,610
I don't know nothing
about no shooting.
317
00:19:43,649 --> 00:19:45,173
Oh.
318
00:19:45,217 --> 00:19:46,878
The gun that was used
in the shooting,
319
00:19:46,919 --> 00:19:49,251
the one that you know
nothing about...
320
00:19:49,288 --> 00:19:51,586
your cousin Roneld
said he gave it to you.
321
00:19:51,623 --> 00:19:53,215
Roneld a punk.
322
00:19:53,258 --> 00:19:55,522
You're dissing me.
Roneld'd never say that.
323
00:19:55,561 --> 00:19:58,621
I'm dissing you? Huh?
324
00:19:58,664 --> 00:20:01,656
Oh, I forgot,
you're such a big man.
325
00:20:01,700 --> 00:20:04,362
It takes a real big man
to ice a baby.
326
00:20:04,403 --> 00:20:06,030
I didn't ice nobody!
Yeah?
327
00:20:06,071 --> 00:20:08,301
Then you're going down
for someone else's bummer,
328
00:20:08,340 --> 00:20:10,900
'cause right nowwe got
a witness that puts you there.
329
00:20:10,943 --> 00:20:12,968
And you had the gun.
330
00:20:13,011 --> 00:20:16,503
My boy's 13. You can't do nothing
like this. You got to go to juvie...
331
00:20:16,548 --> 00:20:19,881
we can do plenty when it comes
to felony homicide, Mr. williams.
332
00:20:19,918 --> 00:20:21,818
If you don't want
to blow parole,
333
00:20:21,853 --> 00:20:23,377
just shut up!
334
00:20:23,422 --> 00:20:25,390
You're dissing me.
335
00:20:25,424 --> 00:20:27,858
I don't know
nothing about no shooting.
336
00:20:29,194 --> 00:20:31,162
It's not enough
that he had the gun.
337
00:20:31,196 --> 00:20:33,130
His prints could've
been from anytime.
338
00:20:33,165 --> 00:20:35,759
You got a witness
who saw him at the shooting.
339
00:20:35,801 --> 00:20:38,269
Tonel Otten, a 12 year old.
340
00:20:38,303 --> 00:20:40,863
As we all know,
not terrific on the stand.
341
00:20:40,906 --> 00:20:43,272
Roneld gave Dizz the gun.
342
00:20:43,308 --> 00:20:44,741
Says Roneld.
343
00:20:44,776 --> 00:20:46,300
Let's be realistic here.
344
00:20:46,345 --> 00:20:48,745
Juvenile court judges may not
like kids with guns,
345
00:20:48,780 --> 00:20:51,214
but they like a clean case,
and they want a motive.
346
00:20:51,250 --> 00:20:53,480
Who says the little son
of a bitch needs a motive?
347
00:20:53,518 --> 00:20:55,816
What the hell
is a motive, anyway?
348
00:20:55,854 --> 00:20:57,845
"He took my seat. " Bam!
349
00:20:57,889 --> 00:20:59,914
"He's looking
at my girlfriend. " Bam!
350
00:20:59,958 --> 00:21:02,893
"I need them shoes. " Bam!
351
00:21:03,962 --> 00:21:06,328
Max has been busting
his chops on this case.
352
00:21:06,365 --> 00:21:07,593
I understand.
353
00:21:07,633 --> 00:21:09,794
Whoa, I can apologize
for myself!
354
00:21:09,835 --> 00:21:13,134
Only I don't feel apologetic!
I'm fed up!
355
00:21:21,413 --> 00:21:24,075
You put together a strong case
356
00:21:24,116 --> 00:21:25,913
we'll put him away, Sergeant.
357
00:21:27,686 --> 00:21:31,144
I know, I know.
Why am I picking a fight with you?
358
00:21:34,092 --> 00:21:36,026
You knowwhat it is, Paul?
359
00:21:36,061 --> 00:21:37,961
Dizz is 13.
360
00:21:37,996 --> 00:21:40,988
The boy in the hospital, he's 12.
361
00:21:41,033 --> 00:21:43,968
The baby's in the ground.
362
00:21:44,002 --> 00:21:46,994
Our emergency rooms
are up to their ears
363
00:21:47,039 --> 00:21:48,973
with kids on the wrong end
of stray bullets,
364
00:21:49,007 --> 00:21:50,668
and this little scuz
is laughing at us
365
00:21:50,709 --> 00:21:53,542
'cause he knows he's a juvenile
and we can't get him!
366
00:21:59,718 --> 00:22:01,743
That's not necessarily true.
367
00:22:08,727 --> 00:22:10,422
People versus Williams,
368
00:22:10,462 --> 00:22:12,760
counsel will waive reading
of the rights and charges.
369
00:22:12,798 --> 00:22:13,958
Your Honor, this is a joke.
370
00:22:13,999 --> 00:22:15,660
You can't try this boy
as an adult.
371
00:22:15,701 --> 00:22:17,532
We should be standing
in family court.
372
00:22:17,569 --> 00:22:20,663
Mr. williams may be
only 13, but the statute is clear.
373
00:22:20,706 --> 00:22:23,800
He's here on a felony complaint
charging intentional murder two.
374
00:22:23,842 --> 00:22:25,742
Mr. Robinette,
can I get in a word here?
375
00:22:25,777 --> 00:22:27,176
This boy have any priors?
376
00:22:27,212 --> 00:22:29,407
Two, Your Honor,
both involving guns.
377
00:22:29,448 --> 00:22:31,712
We believe these show
a real propensity to violence.
378
00:22:31,750 --> 00:22:34,742
If the court remands
to Supreme Criminal,
379
00:22:34,786 --> 00:22:36,583
you'll indict
on intentional murder two?
380
00:22:36,621 --> 00:22:37,781
Absolutely.
381
00:22:37,823 --> 00:22:39,518
Your Honor,
with all due respect,
382
00:22:39,558 --> 00:22:41,219
isn't this kind of overkill?
383
00:22:41,259 --> 00:22:43,557
"Kill"? I wouldn't use
that word in here
384
00:22:43,595 --> 00:22:45,620
if the accused were my client.
385
00:22:45,664 --> 00:22:48,929
Mr. williams knew
exactly what he was doing.
386
00:22:48,967 --> 00:22:52,232
It is just and appropriate
that he be tried as an adult.
387
00:22:52,270 --> 00:22:53,703
Keep it down.
388
00:22:53,739 --> 00:22:55,263
Your Honor, I intend
to submit written motions...
389
00:22:55,307 --> 00:22:57,298
Be my guest.
Anything further, Mr. Robinette?
390
00:22:57,342 --> 00:22:59,037
The people ask that Mr. williams
be remanded without bail
391
00:22:59,077 --> 00:23:01,671
to an appropriate juvenile facility,
pending trial.
392
00:23:01,713 --> 00:23:04,045
So ordered. Case transferred
to Supreme Court.
393
00:23:04,082 --> 00:23:05,344
This is jive!
394
00:23:05,384 --> 00:23:07,648
I didn't murder nobody!
It's a set-up!
395
00:23:07,686 --> 00:23:10,177
Restrain your client
or the court officers will.
396
00:23:10,222 --> 00:23:12,554
You going to stand there?!
It's a set-up.
397
00:23:13,792 --> 00:23:15,225
Get off me!
398
00:23:15,260 --> 00:23:17,251
Listen, Stone,
this kid didn't do it.
399
00:23:17,295 --> 00:23:19,058
I understand you're getting
a lot of heat...
400
00:23:19,097 --> 00:23:21,361
Knock of the sermon, Alex.
Your client had the gun.
401
00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:22,958
The judge's decision
is unwarranted.
402
00:23:23,001 --> 00:23:25,629
Mr. williams was out in front
at the time of the murder.
403
00:23:25,670 --> 00:23:28,036
An eyewitness who can see
in the dark? Very compelling.
404
00:23:28,073 --> 00:23:30,234
The stoop was well lit.
Tonel saw somebody else.
405
00:23:30,275 --> 00:23:32,243
He won't be testifying
against me.
406
00:23:32,277 --> 00:23:35,178
For your sake, young man,
I hope you didn't threaten him.
407
00:23:35,213 --> 00:23:36,874
What are we talking about?
408
00:23:36,915 --> 00:23:39,884
He pleads as an accessory
to manslaughter two.
409
00:23:39,918 --> 00:23:41,818
He gives us the shooter.
410
00:23:43,755 --> 00:23:45,746
I was at my Aunt Cecile's
in Carolina.
411
00:23:45,791 --> 00:23:47,622
Wasn't nowhere near
New York City.
412
00:23:47,659 --> 00:23:49,786
Cut the crap, Dizz.
413
00:23:49,828 --> 00:23:52,023
The police in Charleston
talked to a guy named Summers.
414
00:23:52,063 --> 00:23:54,657
Who? The guy who put you on
the train to New York City...
415
00:23:54,699 --> 00:23:56,132
four days before the murder.
416
00:23:59,938 --> 00:24:01,701
Who shot the baby?
417
00:24:04,209 --> 00:24:06,302
Dude named T-Ball.
418
00:24:06,344 --> 00:24:07,936
T- Ball Howard.
419
00:24:07,979 --> 00:24:09,503
Real name?
420
00:24:09,548 --> 00:24:11,072
Franklin.
421
00:24:11,116 --> 00:24:13,414
Come to me and said he
needed a burner. For what?
422
00:24:13,452 --> 00:24:15,249
A job, man.
423
00:24:15,287 --> 00:24:17,278
Says this job was worth 500.
424
00:24:17,322 --> 00:24:19,313
So I borrowed the burner
from Roneld.
425
00:24:19,357 --> 00:24:22,087
Roneld let you borrow
a gun worth $1500?
426
00:24:22,127 --> 00:24:23,719
Who hired your friend
to do the job?
427
00:24:23,762 --> 00:24:26,856
He didn't tell me.
Just said he needed the gun.
428
00:24:28,900 --> 00:24:30,367
And then what?
429
00:24:30,402 --> 00:24:32,097
I rented it from Roneld for 100,
430
00:24:32,137 --> 00:24:33,900
charged T-ball 200.
431
00:24:33,939 --> 00:24:36,806
I didn't shoot that baby, man.
432
00:24:36,842 --> 00:24:38,400
T- Ball did.
433
00:24:42,747 --> 00:24:44,578
That T-Ball?
434
00:25:16,882 --> 00:25:18,645
Five minutes, Counselor.
435
00:25:18,683 --> 00:25:20,275
Then I want him alone.
436
00:25:21,319 --> 00:25:23,844
I told you, I never been
on Jacobs Place.
437
00:25:23,889 --> 00:25:25,754
And I'll bet you never
rented a Tec-9.
438
00:25:25,790 --> 00:25:28,258
Tec-9?
What's that, mouthwash?
439
00:25:28,293 --> 00:25:30,420
Who ordered the hit, T-Ball?
440
00:25:33,899 --> 00:25:35,867
That's right, genius.
441
00:25:35,901 --> 00:25:39,337
Your buddy Dizz
told us the whole story.
442
00:25:39,371 --> 00:25:41,566
And he's going
to repeat it in court.
443
00:25:48,246 --> 00:25:51,181
Why don't you let me
talk with my client?
444
00:25:51,216 --> 00:25:53,707
The Howard kid'll roll.
He's got no choice.
445
00:25:53,752 --> 00:25:55,777
You better hope you're
right, 'cause we still ain't got
446
00:25:55,820 --> 00:25:57,981
idea one why he shot
the winters boys.
447
00:25:58,023 --> 00:26:01,083
Anything else on T-Ball?
448
00:26:01,126 --> 00:26:04,220
He's 14 years old, lives with his
mother and two-year-old brother,
449
00:26:04,262 --> 00:26:05,490
no gang affiliation.
450
00:26:05,530 --> 00:26:07,327
He even know Gregory winters?
451
00:26:07,365 --> 00:26:09,731
There's no indications.
452
00:26:09,768 --> 00:26:11,702
The winters kid
been upgraded yet?
453
00:26:11,736 --> 00:26:14,432
Yeah, he regained
consciousness last night.
454
00:26:17,042 --> 00:26:18,202
Franklin Howard?
455
00:26:18,243 --> 00:26:19,733
Tall guy, thin.
456
00:26:19,778 --> 00:26:21,177
Sure you don't know him?
457
00:26:21,212 --> 00:26:24,045
I don't know him.
458
00:26:26,751 --> 00:26:28,446
Sorry.
459
00:26:28,553 --> 00:26:30,748
These things have to be asked.
460
00:26:32,891 --> 00:26:34,256
How do you feel?
461
00:26:39,297 --> 00:26:41,265
Okay.
462
00:26:42,834 --> 00:26:44,995
Thanks, Gregory.
463
00:26:47,405 --> 00:26:49,168
Excuse me.
464
00:26:56,514 --> 00:27:00,507
Why do you people insist
on blaming my boy?
465
00:27:00,552 --> 00:27:02,110
I'm sorry.
466
00:27:02,153 --> 00:27:04,383
He doesn't know these boys.
467
00:27:04,422 --> 00:27:06,822
He didn't do anything
to cause them
468
00:27:06,858 --> 00:27:09,349
to shoot up the apartment.
469
00:27:09,394 --> 00:27:10,884
I know.
470
00:27:17,535 --> 00:27:19,833
Ben.
471
00:27:19,871 --> 00:27:22,704
Mr. Howard understands
you can convict him.
472
00:27:22,741 --> 00:27:24,868
He's ready to deal.
I thought he might be.
473
00:27:24,909 --> 00:27:27,002
He names the buyer of the hit,
but he gets tried as a juvenile.
474
00:27:27,045 --> 00:27:28,569
Not a prayer.
I know he's...
475
00:27:28,613 --> 00:27:31,241
we're in an epidemic, Brian.
He killed a baby,
476
00:27:31,282 --> 00:27:32,874
the older brother's
a paraplegic.
477
00:27:32,917 --> 00:27:34,748
It was a mistake.
You want to explain that?
478
00:27:34,786 --> 00:27:36,515
Look, just make me an offer.
479
00:27:36,554 --> 00:27:38,021
Why?
480
00:27:38,056 --> 00:27:41,423
Trust me, Ben, you make a deal,
you'll want the result.
481
00:27:41,459 --> 00:27:42,517
As in?
482
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:44,653
As in you get a major dealer
off the streets.
483
00:27:45,664 --> 00:27:47,131
T- Ball's just a soldier.
484
00:27:47,165 --> 00:27:49,861
He can give you the general.
485
00:27:49,901 --> 00:27:53,769
Manslaughter one, he gets
sentenced in Supreme Court,
486
00:27:53,805 --> 00:27:55,773
and he does the youthful
offender maximum.
487
00:27:55,807 --> 00:27:57,297
Deal. I do this plea and
you're throwing curves...
488
00:27:57,342 --> 00:27:59,708
Believe me, you won't regret it.
489
00:28:01,112 --> 00:28:04,013
I know they're screaming
for this kid's head, Adam,
490
00:28:04,049 --> 00:28:06,745
but they're better off
if we put away the dealer.
491
00:28:06,785 --> 00:28:08,616
I want 'em both. I want everyone.
492
00:28:08,653 --> 00:28:10,985
I want the kid
who gave him the gun,
493
00:28:11,022 --> 00:28:14,185
I want the kid who
pulled the trigger and this pusher.
494
00:28:14,225 --> 00:28:17,490
So do I, but if we don't
get the guy who gave the order,
495
00:28:17,529 --> 00:28:19,394
we have more crack,
more contract killings,
496
00:28:19,431 --> 00:28:20,659
more dead kids.
497
00:28:20,699 --> 00:28:22,257
What are they asking for?
498
00:28:22,300 --> 00:28:25,360
Man one. T-Ball gets three
and a third to 10,
499
00:28:25,403 --> 00:28:26,836
he does the whole 10.
500
00:28:26,871 --> 00:28:28,668
He's not going
to boarding school.
501
00:28:28,707 --> 00:28:31,107
You and I wouldn't last
10 minutes in there.
502
00:28:31,142 --> 00:28:32,905
You sure this pays off?
503
00:28:32,944 --> 00:28:35,435
I think I can trust Doxsee.
504
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:36,845
You think?
505
00:28:38,550 --> 00:28:40,814
I can't afford not to.
506
00:28:42,053 --> 00:28:44,544
He said he needed to get rid
of a business problem.
507
00:28:44,589 --> 00:28:46,648
Somebody burn him on a drug deal?
508
00:28:46,691 --> 00:28:48,454
It was real estate.
509
00:28:48,493 --> 00:28:50,927
Said it was 300 large.
510
00:28:54,365 --> 00:28:56,560
Had you ever met
Ingrams before?
511
00:28:56,601 --> 00:28:58,899
I've done some
little jobs for him.
512
00:28:58,937 --> 00:29:00,928
No hits.
513
00:29:00,972 --> 00:29:03,532
When I heard about this one,
I thought,
514
00:29:03,575 --> 00:29:05,372
"If I had a gun..."
515
00:29:05,410 --> 00:29:07,970
But you didn't know
a baby was behind the door?
516
00:29:08,012 --> 00:29:09,775
That's why
I'm talking to you, man.
517
00:29:09,814 --> 00:29:11,748
I didn't know.
518
00:29:11,783 --> 00:29:15,810
Ingrams gives me the address
of this guy he wants me to do...
519
00:29:15,854 --> 00:29:18,015
Mr. Kay.
520
00:29:18,056 --> 00:29:20,047
I'm supposed to go
air out his crib.
521
00:29:20,091 --> 00:29:22,025
So I go over there,
522
00:29:22,060 --> 00:29:23,960
hear some voices inside,
523
00:29:23,995 --> 00:29:26,225
but I...
524
00:29:26,264 --> 00:29:28,732
just must've gone
to the wrong place.
525
00:29:28,767 --> 00:29:30,701
You thought
a real estate tycoon
526
00:29:30,735 --> 00:29:32,327
lived in the winters' building?
527
00:29:32,370 --> 00:29:36,101
Like I told you
What'd you do with the address?
528
00:29:36,141 --> 00:29:38,371
I threw it away after the...
529
00:29:38,409 --> 00:29:40,434
thing went down.
530
00:29:44,816 --> 00:29:46,807
"This guy
he wants me to do."
531
00:29:46,851 --> 00:29:48,318
It's not enough.
532
00:29:48,353 --> 00:29:51,322
It would be, if we could connect
Ingrams with the mythical Mr. Kay.
533
00:29:51,356 --> 00:29:53,187
You want me to have
Ingrams brought in?
534
00:29:53,224 --> 00:29:56,523
Why? Have him go through
the motions of denying it?
535
00:29:56,561 --> 00:29:59,553
You think it's K like Murray
the K, or K-A-Y, or...?
536
00:29:59,597 --> 00:30:01,189
Or Kaye with an E.
537
00:30:01,232 --> 00:30:04,099
There couldn't be more than
a thousand variations in New York City.
538
00:30:07,305 --> 00:30:10,934
That's K-A-Y-E.
Five boroughs.
539
00:30:10,975 --> 00:30:13,170
This must be 500 more names.
540
00:30:14,412 --> 00:30:16,004
What do you want me to do?
541
00:30:19,417 --> 00:30:20,884
Start with Manhattan.
542
00:30:29,260 --> 00:30:32,457
Someone was hired
to kill a "Mr. Kay."
543
00:30:32,497 --> 00:30:35,898
The hit man went
to 315 Jacobs Place.
544
00:30:35,934 --> 00:30:38,198
You live at 315 Jameson Place.
545
00:30:40,071 --> 00:30:41,561
So?
546
00:30:43,274 --> 00:30:45,105
My husband and I are active
547
00:30:45,143 --> 00:30:47,577
in the Reform Democrats,
Mr. Robinette.
548
00:30:47,612 --> 00:30:51,412
We helped found the Carnegie Hill
Alternative School.
549
00:30:51,449 --> 00:30:54,714
We were once mentioned j
j j in passing on page six,
550
00:30:54,752 --> 00:30:58,347
but I doubt any of that
qualifies us for assassination.
551
00:30:59,524 --> 00:31:01,822
What kind of work
does your husband do, Mrs. Kay?
552
00:31:01,860 --> 00:31:03,384
Real estate.
553
00:31:04,729 --> 00:31:08,096
What, he's guilty of gentrification?
554
00:31:08,132 --> 00:31:11,465
I'm afraid it's going to be
much worse than that.
555
00:31:16,074 --> 00:31:17,905
A month ago...
556
00:31:18,910 --> 00:31:21,378
Edward M. Kay
deposited 300,000
557
00:31:21,412 --> 00:31:24,040
into his corporate
checking account.
558
00:31:24,082 --> 00:31:26,607
But he hasn't made
a sale since August.
559
00:31:26,651 --> 00:31:29,814
And the kid who did the hit
said he mentioned 300,000.
560
00:31:29,854 --> 00:31:32,948
Kay fronted as a buyer
of an apartment for Ingrams.
561
00:31:32,991 --> 00:31:34,720
300,000 cash.
562
00:31:34,759 --> 00:31:37,319
It comes to closing, Kay
doesn't show up with the money.
563
00:31:37,362 --> 00:31:39,557
He stiffed him, Adam.
Stiffed a drug dealer.
564
00:31:39,597 --> 00:31:41,292
There's your motive.
565
00:31:41,332 --> 00:31:42,890
And the kid shot up
the wrong apartment.
566
00:31:42,934 --> 00:31:44,561
Unbelievable.
567
00:31:44,602 --> 00:31:46,399
The winters baby is dead
568
00:31:46,437 --> 00:31:49,099
'cause a 14-year-old hit man
went to the wrong place.
569
00:31:49,140 --> 00:31:51,335
Do you understand these people?
570
00:31:51,376 --> 00:31:53,936
They live better
than 99% of humanity,
571
00:31:53,978 --> 00:31:55,969
and they have to steal
from drug dealers.
572
00:31:56,014 --> 00:31:58,005
Ingrams will go up for murder,
one way or the other.
573
00:31:58,049 --> 00:32:00,847
If Mr. Kay decides
to testify.
574
00:32:00,885 --> 00:32:03,410
Real estate fraud-
not much to work with.
575
00:32:03,454 --> 00:32:05,149
Maybe Kay has a conscience.
576
00:32:05,189 --> 00:32:08,556
Yeah, maybe he houses the homeless in
his basement, but I wouldn't count on it.
577
00:32:10,929 --> 00:32:14,057
I sold a nice two-bedroom
on west End Avenue
578
00:32:14,098 --> 00:32:17,124
to a young black man.
That's a crime?
579
00:32:17,168 --> 00:32:19,568
When you steal his money it is.
580
00:32:19,604 --> 00:32:22,971
What stealing? we had a little
problem with the closing papers.
581
00:32:23,007 --> 00:32:24,702
You know, this Chamber
of Commerce routine
582
00:32:24,742 --> 00:32:27,438
is getting on my nerves.
In 1986 you were arrested
583
00:32:27,478 --> 00:32:30,777
for cocaine possession.
Ingrams your dealer?
584
00:32:30,815 --> 00:32:33,443
An arrest with no conviction
is not relevant here.
585
00:32:33,484 --> 00:32:35,577
It isn't?
586
00:32:38,256 --> 00:32:41,020
You do a little coke,
you figure, what the hell?
587
00:32:41,059 --> 00:32:42,754
It's a victimless crime.
588
00:32:42,794 --> 00:32:46,355
And you use drug money
to buy real estate.
589
00:32:47,932 --> 00:32:49,365
You think that makes it clean?
590
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,061
Look, I...
591
00:32:51,102 --> 00:32:54,265
An 11-month-old baby died
because of your sins, Mr. Kay.
592
00:32:56,407 --> 00:32:58,898
If you want to
talk about his testimony...
593
00:32:58,943 --> 00:33:01,377
what did you do
with the $300,000?
594
00:33:03,047 --> 00:33:06,016
You didn't cheat
some yuppie banker.
595
00:33:06,050 --> 00:33:09,486
Mr. Ingrams- he doesn't sue,
he hires a hit man.
596
00:33:12,523 --> 00:33:14,991
You haven't mentioned
any incentives
597
00:33:15,026 --> 00:33:17,017
for cooperation.
598
00:33:18,463 --> 00:33:20,727
No?
599
00:33:20,765 --> 00:33:22,824
How is this?
600
00:33:22,867 --> 00:33:26,200
If your client doesn't
start talking now,
601
00:33:26,237 --> 00:33:28,467
I'll tear his life apart.
602
00:33:28,506 --> 00:33:30,303
Real estate boards,
603
00:33:30,341 --> 00:33:32,809
clients,
skeletons in the closet...
604
00:33:33,845 --> 00:33:36,313
light of day, guaranteed.
605
00:33:48,860 --> 00:33:52,455
Ingrams came to me
with 300,000 he wanted cleaned.
606
00:33:53,765 --> 00:33:56,893
I was in the middle
of a redevelopment project
607
00:33:56,934 --> 00:33:59,630
that was dying
for an infusion of cash.
608
00:33:59,670 --> 00:34:01,262
So you used Ingrams' money.
609
00:34:01,305 --> 00:34:02,829
I thought I could
turn it around,
610
00:34:02,874 --> 00:34:04,842
get his money
in and out quickly.
611
00:34:06,377 --> 00:34:08,242
The market went soft.
612
00:34:08,279 --> 00:34:10,873
The lenders foreclosed
on the project.
613
00:34:10,915 --> 00:34:14,078
And the $300,000 went to them.
614
00:34:16,721 --> 00:34:18,586
Did Ingrams threaten you?
615
00:34:20,091 --> 00:34:21,820
Oh, no.
616
00:34:21,859 --> 00:34:23,759
No, no.
617
00:34:25,229 --> 00:34:28,255
I point my finger at him,
I'm dead.
618
00:34:28,299 --> 00:34:30,290
If you help us out,
we'll put him away.
619
00:34:30,334 --> 00:34:31,801
And if you don't?
620
00:34:31,836 --> 00:34:34,430
And if you don't testify,
621
00:34:34,472 --> 00:34:36,201
he'll get you- sooner or later.
622
00:34:36,240 --> 00:34:38,731
I'd rather it was later.
623
00:34:40,478 --> 00:34:42,173
You made your pitch,
Mr. Stone.
624
00:34:45,416 --> 00:34:47,247
And it didn't get through?
625
00:34:47,285 --> 00:34:50,812
I'd rather go to a loan shark
for the 300 grand
626
00:34:50,855 --> 00:34:53,323
than take on Michael Ingrams.
627
00:35:00,131 --> 00:35:02,497
Pick Ingrams up.
We have enough to charge him.
628
00:35:02,533 --> 00:35:05,001
Without Kay's testimony?
Come on, Paul.
629
00:35:05,036 --> 00:35:06,901
Ingrams is a maggot.
We can crush him.
630
00:35:06,938 --> 00:35:08,633
He doesn't know
Kay won't testify.
631
00:35:08,673 --> 00:35:10,766
We get him to plead
manslaughter, he's off the street.
632
00:35:10,808 --> 00:35:13,208
At least Kay lives long enough
to change his mind.
633
00:35:14,545 --> 00:35:16,445
Sold.
634
00:35:16,481 --> 00:35:19,507
The people
versus Michael Ingrams.
635
00:35:19,550 --> 00:35:22,542
Murder in the second degree;
636
00:35:22,587 --> 00:35:24,987
Manslaughter
in the first degree;
637
00:35:25,022 --> 00:35:27,752
Attempted murder
in the second degree;
638
00:35:27,792 --> 00:35:30,226
And assault
in the first degree.
639
00:35:30,261 --> 00:35:32,161
How does the defendant plead?
640
00:35:32,196 --> 00:35:33,720
Not guilty.
641
00:35:33,764 --> 00:35:35,664
On all counts, Your Honor.
642
00:35:35,700 --> 00:35:37,361
I'm serving grand jury notice
643
00:35:37,401 --> 00:35:38,959
upon defense counsel,
Your Honor.
644
00:35:39,003 --> 00:35:42,530
Do the People wish to be
heard on bail, Mr. Robinette?
645
00:35:42,573 --> 00:35:46,703
Your Honor, as a multiple
prior felony offender,
646
00:35:46,744 --> 00:35:49,872
and a convicted
narcotics trafficker,
647
00:35:49,914 --> 00:35:52,212
Mr. Ingrams faces
mandatory life.
648
00:35:52,250 --> 00:35:55,413
The People request he be
held without bail.
649
00:35:57,421 --> 00:35:59,412
Well, Counselor,
I believe a high bail
650
00:35:59,457 --> 00:36:01,288
is appropriate in this case.
Name a figure.
651
00:36:01,325 --> 00:36:04,192
The people ask
$1 million, Your Honor.
652
00:36:04,228 --> 00:36:06,059
So ordered.
653
00:36:12,870 --> 00:36:15,338
You wanted the whole
package, Adam. we delivered.
654
00:36:15,373 --> 00:36:17,034
So far.
655
00:36:17,074 --> 00:36:19,201
But if this Ingrams hood
walks on a technicality,
656
00:36:19,243 --> 00:36:21,734
all your good work is bupkis.
657
00:36:21,779 --> 00:36:23,508
Offer him man two.
658
00:36:23,548 --> 00:36:26,711
He engineered the death of an infant, for
heaven's sake. People will be outraged.
659
00:36:26,751 --> 00:36:28,548
The people will forget
this outrage
660
00:36:28,586 --> 00:36:31,555
as soon as the next outrage
hits the front page.
661
00:36:31,589 --> 00:36:34,854
The winters boy isn't the only
innocent victim in New York City.
662
00:36:34,892 --> 00:36:38,988
Man two, then go for
the maximum at sentencing.
663
00:36:47,071 --> 00:36:49,369
Forget it, Stone.
664
00:36:49,407 --> 00:36:52,103
You don't come running
with your hat in your hand
665
00:36:52,143 --> 00:36:53,576
from a position of strength.
666
00:36:53,611 --> 00:36:55,943
You call this a position
of strength, Counselor?
667
00:36:55,980 --> 00:36:59,143
We're offering a deal
so we can wrap this up,
668
00:36:59,183 --> 00:37:01,242
but if you want to play games...
669
00:37:01,285 --> 00:37:04,118
what games? You got
the unsubstantiated testimony
670
00:37:04,155 --> 00:37:06,783
of a little psycho
who can't shoot straight.
671
00:37:06,824 --> 00:37:09,315
Let's get something
straight here, Mr. Stone.
672
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,624
I'm not in short pants.
673
00:37:11,662 --> 00:37:14,256
T- Ball's testimony
isn't enough to convict me.
674
00:37:14,298 --> 00:37:17,028
Probably not.
But Ned Kay's will.
675
00:37:17,068 --> 00:37:19,536
Ned Kay?
676
00:37:21,939 --> 00:37:23,804
He won't mess with my thing.
677
00:37:25,409 --> 00:37:27,036
I'm going back to my cell.
678
00:37:36,621 --> 00:37:38,816
Okay, so it's not an even bet.
679
00:37:38,856 --> 00:37:41,518
Even? I wouldn't
give you 20 to one.
680
00:37:41,559 --> 00:37:42,890
So Kay stole his money,
681
00:37:42,927 --> 00:37:44,861
but does a jury
believe he'd kill him?
682
00:37:44,895 --> 00:37:46,328
Ingrams is a drug dealer.
683
00:37:46,364 --> 00:37:49,265
He doesn't look
like a drug dealer.
684
00:37:50,401 --> 00:37:52,392
You want me not to go to trial?
685
00:37:52,436 --> 00:37:54,700
Mr. Kay is still
a question mark.
686
00:37:54,739 --> 00:37:56,866
What have you got
on his finances?
687
00:37:56,907 --> 00:37:58,534
Is there a federal tax charge?
688
00:38:00,177 --> 00:38:01,735
The IRS.
689
00:38:03,347 --> 00:38:05,815
Uh-uh, we do not let
tax evaders walk.
690
00:38:05,850 --> 00:38:07,715
If it's major fraud,
he goes to jail.
691
00:38:07,752 --> 00:38:09,583
Come on, Sam, you can still
make an example of him.
692
00:38:09,620 --> 00:38:11,884
No, never. Forget
about it. Go away.
693
00:38:11,922 --> 00:38:13,685
Take his money,
put him in the poorhouse,
694
00:38:13,724 --> 00:38:16,192
treble penalties,
but don't send him to jail.
695
00:38:16,227 --> 00:38:17,660
What do you get?
696
00:38:17,695 --> 00:38:19,959
A dealer and a killer
off the street.
697
00:38:21,565 --> 00:38:23,362
Okay,
698
00:38:23,401 --> 00:38:25,961
but I want it in writing
in letters eight feet high.
699
00:38:26,003 --> 00:38:28,767
When they go for my neck,
I want yours in the noose with me.
700
00:38:30,908 --> 00:38:34,935
Tax fraud, Mr. Morton, and your
client goes away for 10 years.
701
00:38:36,047 --> 00:38:39,107
10 years in a federal
country club?
702
00:38:39,150 --> 00:38:42,483
I can work on my tennis game.
It's better than being dead.
703
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,978
Suppose I convince the IRS
not to prosecute?
704
00:38:50,795 --> 00:38:53,457
I'll bite.
Suppose you do?
705
00:38:53,497 --> 00:38:55,328
They take every dime,
706
00:38:55,366 --> 00:38:58,233
you don't even keep
the dishwasher.
707
00:38:58,269 --> 00:39:01,067
But if you testify,
you can move to Nebraska
708
00:39:01,105 --> 00:39:02,834
the day the trial is over.
709
00:39:03,841 --> 00:39:06,036
You son of a bitch.
710
00:39:07,211 --> 00:39:08,678
You set this up.
711
00:39:08,713 --> 00:39:11,841
The deal is good
for 15 seconds.
712
00:39:16,253 --> 00:39:18,721
I keep the house in Sag Harbor.
713
00:39:18,756 --> 00:39:21,156
No, you don't.
714
00:39:21,192 --> 00:39:22,853
10 seconds.
715
00:39:23,994 --> 00:39:25,393
The Mercedes.
716
00:39:25,429 --> 00:39:27,294
They take the Mercedes.
717
00:39:27,331 --> 00:39:28,992
Five seconds.
718
00:39:46,350 --> 00:39:49,615
When you told Mr. Ingrams that you
were unable to return his money,
719
00:39:49,653 --> 00:39:51,518
how did he respond?
720
00:39:51,555 --> 00:39:54,183
He indicated he would kill me.
721
00:39:54,225 --> 00:39:56,716
Objection. Indicated?
722
00:39:56,761 --> 00:39:59,696
When Mr. Kay continues, I think
you'll find it admissible, Your Honor.
723
00:39:59,730 --> 00:40:01,630
I'll allow it.
Go ahead, Mr. Stone.
724
00:40:01,665 --> 00:40:04,532
How did he indicate it, Mr. Kay?
725
00:40:07,071 --> 00:40:09,904
He said he would
have my place aired out.
726
00:40:11,409 --> 00:40:12,774
No further questions.
727
00:40:17,081 --> 00:40:19,675
Mr. Kay, you testified
Mr. Ingrams said
728
00:40:19,717 --> 00:40:21,207
he'd air your place out.
729
00:40:21,252 --> 00:40:23,015
Could he have meant
he'd break all your windows?
730
00:40:23,053 --> 00:40:26,079
Don't be ridiculous. Please
just stick to yes or no.
731
00:40:26,123 --> 00:40:28,853
This cash you allege
came from the defendant...
732
00:40:28,893 --> 00:40:30,224
you said you used it
to bail out
733
00:40:30,261 --> 00:40:31,922
one of your own projects,
is that right?
734
00:40:31,962 --> 00:40:33,293
Yes.
735
00:40:33,330 --> 00:40:36,822
Well? Did you?
736
00:40:36,867 --> 00:40:40,428
Yes. At least, I tried, but...
737
00:40:40,471 --> 00:40:42,336
But what?
738
00:40:46,010 --> 00:40:48,570
Did your habit interfere
with business, Mr. Kay?
739
00:40:48,612 --> 00:40:49,772
Objection, Your Honor.
740
00:40:49,814 --> 00:40:51,748
Sidebar, Your Honor.
741
00:40:53,017 --> 00:40:54,746
What's this about?
742
00:40:54,785 --> 00:40:58,721
I'm going to impeach
his credibility, Judge.
743
00:40:58,756 --> 00:41:00,189
He's a cocaine user.
744
00:41:00,224 --> 00:41:03,455
Your Honor, the People are
aware of Mr. Kay's '86 arrest,
745
00:41:03,494 --> 00:41:05,689
but he was not convicted.
It's not relevant.
746
00:41:05,729 --> 00:41:06,855
It's not admissible.
747
00:41:06,897 --> 00:41:08,865
Do you have an offer
of proof, Counselor?
748
00:41:08,899 --> 00:41:11,094
Why don't we just
go to the record?
749
00:41:15,906 --> 00:41:17,430
Mr. Stone.
750
00:41:22,646 --> 00:41:24,341
Go ahead, Mr. Anson.
751
00:41:24,381 --> 00:41:25,439
Mr. Kay,
752
00:41:25,483 --> 00:41:30,011
under the name
Edward M. Kayman...
753
00:41:30,054 --> 00:41:32,420
you were convicted
754
00:41:32,456 --> 00:41:34,481
of possession
of a controlled substance
755
00:41:34,525 --> 00:41:37,926
in the state of Connecticut
in 1984?
756
00:41:42,266 --> 00:41:46,202
In fact, it was cocaine,
was it not?
757
00:41:49,540 --> 00:41:51,770
Answer the question,
Mr. Kay.
758
00:41:53,210 --> 00:41:55,178
Yes.
759
00:41:55,212 --> 00:41:57,578
And then later you
legally changed your name
760
00:41:57,615 --> 00:41:59,708
to Ned Kay, didn't you?
761
00:41:59,783 --> 00:42:01,774
Yes.
762
00:42:03,387 --> 00:42:07,221
Do you still use cocaine, Mr. Kay?
763
00:42:09,927 --> 00:42:11,986
I respectfully
764
00:42:12,029 --> 00:42:14,862
refuse to answer on the...
765
00:42:14,899 --> 00:42:16,560
Are you invoking
the Fifth Amendment
766
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:18,625
against self-incrimination?
767
00:42:18,669 --> 00:42:20,569
Yes, sir.
768
00:42:20,604 --> 00:42:22,765
Did you pay for cocaine
769
00:42:22,806 --> 00:42:25,570
out of any of the $300,000
770
00:42:25,609 --> 00:42:28,134
that you stole
from Mr. Ingrams?
771
00:42:28,178 --> 00:42:31,511
I respectfully refuse
to answer for the same reason.
772
00:42:31,549 --> 00:42:34,017
You refuse to answer.
773
00:42:35,619 --> 00:42:37,519
But you expect us to believe
774
00:42:37,555 --> 00:42:40,023
that Mr. Ingrams
threatened to kill you.
775
00:42:40,057 --> 00:42:42,116
Objection, Your Honor.
Sustained.
776
00:42:42,159 --> 00:42:44,218
The jury will disregard
that remark.
777
00:42:44,261 --> 00:42:46,354
No further questions.
778
00:42:51,335 --> 00:42:55,795
So after Mr. Ingrams told you to air
out the dude's crib, what did you do?
779
00:42:55,839 --> 00:42:58,569
I went up on the roof
and smoked some weed.
780
00:42:58,609 --> 00:43:00,338
Then I got the gun
from my stash.
781
00:43:00,377 --> 00:43:01,810
Which was where?
782
00:43:01,845 --> 00:43:03,813
In my locker in school.
783
00:43:03,847 --> 00:43:05,109
In school.
784
00:43:06,717 --> 00:43:09,277
And you rented this gun
from Dizz Williams, right?
785
00:43:10,888 --> 00:43:12,719
Then what did you do?
786
00:43:12,756 --> 00:43:14,724
I smoked a little more weed,
787
00:43:14,758 --> 00:43:17,784
then I went over to do the dude.
788
00:43:17,828 --> 00:43:19,989
Which was supposed to be
789
00:43:20,030 --> 00:43:22,225
315 Jameson Place.
790
00:43:22,266 --> 00:43:24,131
Now you knew that
791
00:43:24,168 --> 00:43:26,898
because Michael Ingrams
792
00:43:26,937 --> 00:43:28,768
wrote it out for you,
is that true?
793
00:43:28,806 --> 00:43:30,205
Yes.
794
00:43:30,240 --> 00:43:34,643
And why did you go
to 315 Jacobs Place?
795
00:43:36,814 --> 00:43:39,374
Answer the question,
Mr. Howard.
796
00:43:39,416 --> 00:43:42,283
It was a mistake.
797
00:43:42,319 --> 00:43:45,345
This is the correct address.
798
00:43:46,457 --> 00:43:48,789
Would you read that out
to the court, please?
799
00:43:49,927 --> 00:43:52,225
"315
800
00:43:52,262 --> 00:43:53,786
Jameson Place."
801
00:43:53,831 --> 00:43:55,230
Right.
802
00:43:55,265 --> 00:43:56,960
Nowwould you read this?
803
00:43:59,203 --> 00:44:01,797
Objection.
Relevance, Your Honor.
804
00:44:01,839 --> 00:44:03,966
It goes to the factual elements
805
00:44:04,008 --> 00:44:05,441
of the crime charged,
Your Honor.
806
00:44:05,476 --> 00:44:07,307
I'll allow it.
807
00:44:07,344 --> 00:44:09,437
Just read the police report.
808
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:11,539
You don't have to read
the big legal words,
809
00:44:11,582 --> 00:44:14,346
just give us the easy ones.
810
00:44:22,159 --> 00:44:23,820
Mr. Howard?
811
00:44:27,898 --> 00:44:30,162
You can't read, can you?
812
00:44:36,106 --> 00:44:38,267
You can't read anything.
813
00:44:39,576 --> 00:44:41,407
No.
814
00:44:52,656 --> 00:44:54,556
No further questions.
815
00:45:00,798 --> 00:45:03,426
Gregory winters is a victim.
816
00:45:03,467 --> 00:45:06,436
His mother Denise winters
is a victim as well.
817
00:45:06,470 --> 00:45:08,267
And to a lesser extent,
818
00:45:08,305 --> 00:45:10,170
Franklin "T-Ball" Howard
819
00:45:10,207 --> 00:45:11,799
is a victim, too.
820
00:45:11,842 --> 00:45:14,003
A victim of circumstance,
821
00:45:14,044 --> 00:45:17,013
in which he learned
how to fire a deadly weapon
822
00:45:17,047 --> 00:45:19,140
before he learned to read.
823
00:45:20,184 --> 00:45:22,482
Then, of course,
there is Andrew winters,
824
00:45:22,519 --> 00:45:25,682
who would have celebrated
his first birthday
825
00:45:25,723 --> 00:45:27,384
not long ago.
826
00:45:27,424 --> 00:45:29,324
Now,
827
00:45:29,359 --> 00:45:31,418
maybe we've all become
so accustomed
828
00:45:31,462 --> 00:45:33,225
to slaughter in our streets,
829
00:45:33,263 --> 00:45:35,288
in the subways,
and our homes...
830
00:45:36,433 --> 00:45:38,526
that it takes the killing
of a baby
831
00:45:38,569 --> 00:45:40,400
to snap us out of it.
832
00:45:40,437 --> 00:45:42,234
I don't know.
833
00:45:42,272 --> 00:45:45,537
What I do know is that
when Michael Ingrams
834
00:45:45,576 --> 00:45:48,044
ordered the contract killing
of Ned Kay,
835
00:45:48,078 --> 00:45:50,569
he was ordering
the killing of Andrew winters.
836
00:45:51,849 --> 00:45:54,579
And it doesn't matter
that the wrong person was hit...
837
00:45:56,754 --> 00:45:59,245
Michael Ingrams' intent
was to kill.
838
00:46:00,190 --> 00:46:04,024
And legally,
intent follows the bullet.
839
00:46:05,095 --> 00:46:06,562
In the eyes of the law,
840
00:46:06,597 --> 00:46:08,758
Michael Ingrams is
guilty of murder.
841
00:46:09,867 --> 00:46:11,528
In the eyes of society,
842
00:46:11,568 --> 00:46:13,092
he is guilty
843
00:46:13,137 --> 00:46:15,071
of the slaughter of an innocent.
844
00:46:21,311 --> 00:46:24,109
Mr. Stone, do you think
the murder conviction
845
00:46:24,148 --> 00:46:25,581
will stand on appeal?
846
00:46:25,616 --> 00:46:27,709
Absolutely. There's no
reversible error here.
847
00:46:27,751 --> 00:46:29,810
Michael Ingrams is as guilty
of killing that little boy
848
00:46:29,853 --> 00:46:31,912
as if he'd pulled
the trigger himself.
849
00:46:35,392 --> 00:46:37,189
Mrs. winters,
850
00:46:37,227 --> 00:46:40,162
were you satisfied
with today's verdict?
851
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:44,529
I'm thinking,
852
00:46:44,568 --> 00:46:48,026
what about the boy
who did pull the trigger?
853
00:46:48,071 --> 00:46:51,063
He'll be back out j in seven years.
854
00:46:52,176 --> 00:46:54,770
My baby would have been
eight years old then.
855
00:46:55,979 --> 00:46:58,243
Would you be satisfied?60718
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