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- I'd come to this project with many
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of the same assumptions that you have,
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concerning the Jersey double murders
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and the guilt of Jim Suerd.
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His characterization is
a troubled young man,
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responsible for a spree of horrific,
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ritualistic homicides in the Pine Barrens.
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The question in my mind was why?
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Why would a man commit such crimes?
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After reviewing hours of archived footage
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generated by Steven
Avkast and Locus Wheeler,
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the hosts of "Fact or Fiction",
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I've been forced to change my perspective.
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The question now for me is what?
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What really happened that night
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and is Jim Suerd truly responsible?
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Ironically, in the course of this project,
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Jim Suerd has died in prison
under mysterious causes.
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His death will forever
shroud the reconciliation
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of this case.
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As they said on "Fact or
Fiction", "You decide."
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911, what is your emergency?
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My name is Jim Suerd.
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I just hitchhiked here from...
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from the middle of pine barrens
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and I can't seem to get,
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I can't seem to find the people
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that I was in the Pine Barrens with,
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and I was camping with them
last night doing a project
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Are you lost?
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I'm not lost.
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I'm just trying, I can't find the people
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who drove me here and,
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You know I looked around for them
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and I went back to the
site where we had parked
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and they're not at the van
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and they're nowhere to be found
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like I don't know where they are.
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Their vehicle is still there?
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The vehicle's
still there and I had to
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hitchhike to this payphone.
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How far are you
from the vehicle right now?
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I'm about five five,
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somewhere you know five, 10
miles from it I don't know.
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Okay, Jim.
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We'll send someone out.
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Yeah it would be a good idea,
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I got a really bad feeling about it.
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You might want to send
somebody out quickly,
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I have a bad feeling-
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- WBRK time
it is five o'clock.
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It's time for that afternoon
drive that you love so much.
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Hey, guess who made missing reports?
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It's those hosts from "Fact or Fiction".
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Missing. Ha
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Bob, you know those guys
gonna be showing up sometime
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in the next day saying,
"Surprise did you miss us?"
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Let's go to the phones and we'll ask you.
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Do you miss them?
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- We have found bodies.
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At this time we don't know who they are,
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or how many we have found.
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We cannot assume at this time that it is
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the "Fact or Fiction" crew.
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At this time, we have arrested Jim Suerd
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for the murders of Rein
Clackin and Locus Wheeler.
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- Behind me is a house where Jim Suerd
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resided until his arrest
nearly seven months ago.
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Inside, amongst his dirty
laundry, blood evidence was found,
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linking him to the grisly
"Fact or Fiction" murders.
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Today, Jim's own life hangs in the balance
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as jurors decide his fate.
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I had heard of the
"Fact or Fiction" murders.
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They were big news for
a period of one year,
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and then like so many things
in today's fast-paced world,
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were forgotten.
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I was intrigued by how
this case, this story,
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was so well documented.
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How, in spite of the remote
location of the murders,
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and the rural nature of
the people prosecuting Jim,
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that these were murders
of a high tech age.
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I was intrigued by the fact
that the four individuals
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were indeed children of a digital age.
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Mostly though, I wondered
why the man named Jim Suerd
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would commit such
horrendous acts of violence.
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- This is Johnny-
- And Locus.
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- And we are live in the
Pine Barrens where tonight
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we are doing a first-ever,
internet broadcast, cable,
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ham radio, broadcast all live, all real
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and we are doing it with
the help of a psychic
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and a sound man
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who has the ability to record
sounds from other worlds,
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otherworldly sounds.
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- Yeah, that's right, Steven.
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We're here in the Pine
Barrens southern New Jersey
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live and direct, coming right at you
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in your living room, first-ever web
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simulcast cable-cast and everybody
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is on the edge of their
seat and I know you are,
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because I am and I'm sure Steven is too.
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- A little later we're gonna
be showing you the campsite,
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but right now we're gonna
do a little recapping,
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and you're gonna see some tape
of the history of the legend
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of the Pine Barrens and the Jersey Devil.
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- They actually lived their
show, "Fact or Fiction".
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Here's this real eerie
circumstances that come to play
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And they were actually the victims of it.
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- He had the opportunity.
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It appears as if he had the motive.
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He did lure those people up
there in a in a veil of secrecy.
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I would say yeah he fits the profile.
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Who was Jim Suerd?
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The answer proved more
difficult than I imagined.
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His mother had died four
months before the murders,
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His father, five years before.
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The only two people that
I was able to speak with
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that knew him personally
were his landlady,
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Joyce Dryer and a childhood psychologist
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named Dr. Dale Orstall.
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- I was sort of a father
figure to him, I feel.
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Sort of a surrogate father, if you will.
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He didn't talk a whole
lot about his family life
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but one of the things I know
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is that his father left
them when he was very young,
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ran off with another woman.
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He had few friends if any.
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Very reclusive.
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- I remember him being quite a loner.
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He seemed to stay in his room quite a bit
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when he wasn't at work.
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And the computer seemed to be a highlight
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in his in his life.
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- With the advent of the Internet,
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of course he got into that
years after I was seeing him.
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It wasn't even available
I don't think at the time.
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It opened up a whole new world
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for a guy like Jim.
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- Often he would be on
the internet with people
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and as we know the horrible situation
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that has come up because
of the internet fiasco,
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with him being blamed for these murders.
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The internet was
the first of two interests
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that would attach him
to the "Fact or Fiction"
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television show.
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The second interest
was a bit more obscure.
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- Jim had this fascination for magic.
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I mean a true fascination,
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I mean he like I told
you he was very reclusive
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so I believe he must have
spent countless hours
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in his room alone
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working on tricks.
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And he used to come in and
start the sessions and he had to
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show me a new trick and often
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was a simple card trick
but very quickly he
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built skills and became
very proficient at magic.
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The internet and magic,
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both interests generally
considered harmless.
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Both interests that could
have a sinister edge to them.
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Either way, it was a
combination that virtually
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sealed his fate in meeting
Steven Avkast and Locus Wheeler,
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The hosts of "Fact or Fiction".
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- Welcome to "Fact or Fiction".
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Welcome to "Fact or Fiction".
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Yes we are rolling.
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We are on we are ready to go.
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Locus you joker, you knew it
all along that we were on,
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didn't you?
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- Yeah welcome to our new show,
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well actually it's not a new
show, it's got a new name.
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Thanks to everybody out
there who helped us come up
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with this great name,
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"Fact or Fiction"
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- That's right.
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"Fact or Fiction" was
one of those fluke successes
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that no television producer
would ever predict.
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Short on production value,
talent and execution,
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It maintained a following of
youth probably more amused
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by its Kitsch value than anything else.
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Steven Avkast, the creator
of "Fact or Fiction"
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is remembered.
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- Steven, I always got bad
bad vibes about Steven,
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you know he always came in here with this,
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you know attitude that you know,
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all he was doing is making
a little cable show.
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I mean, nobody ever goes
anywhere with this stuff.
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But he had this idea
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he was destined for stardom
and was gonna be rich, you know
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millions of dollars and
you know he basically
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had that that big you know
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director stereotype that you think of,
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you know, you think of the big
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Hollywood directors and I mean he really
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just had to put it in perspective.
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Steven's longtime
friend, Locus Wheeler,
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was the co-host of the show.
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Their pairing was like oil and water.
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- Locus, I think,
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he and Steven would have problems
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getting along sometimes but I think
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Locus, he knew what he was doing.
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I mean with this he knew
it was just a little
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cable show and I think he
was just in it for the fun.
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Somehow, Steven, a
misguided egomaniac and Locus,
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a sardonic slacker,
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managed to keep turning out shows
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for the better part of 1995.
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The ideas were slim.
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However, they did latch onto
one idea that intrigued many.
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- We're also doing something new.
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We are on IRC tonight.
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And we have joined-
- IRC is in the house.
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- You can say that, I'm
saying it's swingin'.
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- Well I'll have to say
one idea they came up with,
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it was actually, well at
first it was pretty cool
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but it got to be pretty freaky too.
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They came up with this idea,
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you know how most TV shows
will have like call ins.
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Where people call in the phone and talk,
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well they tie this into the internet
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through IRC chat, except, so
people could like, you know
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ask questions on the
show, but they rigged up
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some sort of text-to-speech converter so
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like whatever they typed
in was actually said
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on the show like it was a voice.
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It was this idea
that provided the impetus
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for what would ironically give
Steven the fame he so craved.
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By the fall of 1995, the
one-joke television show
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was losing popularity.
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By November, the show was
about to self-destruct.
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Everybody had this sense.
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- Once again, Steven in his
delinquency and procrastination
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has made it so we are too
late to find the snow angel.
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At this desperate time,
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Steven turned to viewer suggestions,
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one of which would take hold in his mind.
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It provided the seedling
with which Steven hoped
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to rebuild the show's popularity.
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- You know we had a call
we have an IRC come in
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and it's real eerie voice,
I mean it drove me nuts.
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I almost couldn't stand this
after a while because just
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hearing this voice like
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"Hello, why don't you do a piece on-"
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Why don't you do a show
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about the Jersey Devil?
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Steven's idea
was to do a first-ever
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live broadcast of "Fact or Fiction".
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It would be broadcast simultaneously
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to cable television and the Internet.
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The promotion's began immediately.
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And with ratings dropping
in an ever-increasing speed,
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the concept was implemented immediately.
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- This Jersey Devil cablecast,
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I mean I for one, I knew
it wasn't gonna work.
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I mean these guys couldn't even make
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a halfway decent TV Show.
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Suddenly they want to
jump into doing you know
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big time live from the Pine Barrens
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and have radio and Internet
and this and that and,
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I knew it was gonna be fiasco.
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I didn't really think was
gonna end up like it did but,
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I knew it wasn't gonna look pretty.
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Since the show was going to air
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from a remote location,
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Steven hastily looked for people
who might be able to help.
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A former employer of his,
Sam woods, was approached.
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This is the room of Sam woods.
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I used to cut his grass.
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He's a filmmaker
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and he used to do soap operas and
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we're gonna ask him if he
wants to direct the show
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Because I think he'd be
perfect and he's a name
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and that could really be good for us.
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So I've had to talk to Locus and try to
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convince him about it,
but he's going for it,
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well here they come so,
I'm going to turn it down.
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- Steven-
- That's right.
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- And I'm Locus.
- Locus.
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- Nice to meet you.
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- Well they say that up
to up to 50,000 people
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could possibly be watching at any time,
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but they don't know exactly how many
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but we're selling lots of T-shirts.
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So that's a good sign I think.
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Anyway we have this idea we want
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to taking this like direction
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where it's gonna become much bigger
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and it'll be really cool if you
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could you know help us out;
if you could direct the show.
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I know that you used to
direct lots of soap operas.
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- Network soaps.
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Right, right.
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This union of cable access show
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and former Network soap director
never made sense to anyone.
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Though it was later discovered that Steven
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was paying Sam out of his own pocket
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in an act of desperation
to save "Fact or Fiction".
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We're in business
yeah, yeah this is cool.
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Sam Woods, a once successful
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television soap director
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became one of the people I would question
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about these events.
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In stark contrast to his work,
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meeting him was another road sign
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on my travel into a surreal world.
305
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- Well, this devil hunt
thing never appealed to me.
306
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We're getting into a pretty
flaky area there, you know?
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I think the kids were they were
asking for it with that one.
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Not the kind of not the kind of work I do,
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you know what I mean?
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Not what I do.
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For the internet
end, Jay McDowell was enlisted.
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- Well, they came to
me with a seedling idea
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they said you know
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we wanna, we want to use some
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of this technology you've been
using for teleconferencing
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for video conferencing
and we want to, you know,
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we want to turn this
into a broadcast thing.
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They had heard some talk about it
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they had seen some sites
that were trying to
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do some stuff like that,
so they wanted something
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like that they wanted to do it
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a live, a live thing
rather than like, you know,
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streaming cam video.
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They wanted to actually broadcast
and compress it all live.
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So they basically just came
to me with that seedling
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of an idea and I had to
figure out, you know,
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the technical aspects of
how to make it happen,
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and make it real and
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you know, kind of the packaging for it
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what it was really gonna
be in the final product.
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Steven and Locus decided
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that they needed additional help
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at the actual location.
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They searched vaguely for
a sound man and a guide
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and on December 7th,
1995, worlds collided.
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- Okay, we're at Rein's
and we've come today
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to meet him in hopes that
he'll be able to help us
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out on our trip to the Pine Barrens.
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Basically Rein is an audio whiz
340
00:17:18,738 --> 00:17:22,075
and supposebly he's been able to document,
341
00:17:22,075 --> 00:17:24,511
supposedly he's been able to document
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00:17:24,511 --> 00:17:28,481
you know paranormal occurrences on tape.
343
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So that's what we're gonna see today.
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We're also going to be meeting Jim,
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who does some psychic things
346
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and we'll see, you know.
347
00:17:35,055 --> 00:17:36,356
Hopefully these guys will fit the bill
348
00:17:36,356 --> 00:17:37,690
and we'll be able to go down to
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the Pine Barrens with them, you know.
350
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Could use the extra help.
351
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Is that good?
352
00:17:42,562 --> 00:17:43,630
Yeah you got enough?
353
00:17:45,665 --> 00:17:47,200
I hope this damn mic works.
354
00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:48,134
You ready?
355
00:17:48,134 --> 00:17:49,002
Okay.
356
00:17:52,472 --> 00:17:53,640
Remember, play it cool.
357
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Play it cool.
358
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Is this gonna blow us this airplane sound?
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- Come on.
360
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- Steven, this is Rein.
361
00:18:02,348 --> 00:18:04,551
Right Rein?
- Yeah.
362
00:18:04,551 --> 00:18:06,619
- I'm Locus.
- Locus?
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Locus.
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00:18:13,093 --> 00:18:16,296
- I'll just turn it off.
- So you just taped us?
365
00:18:16,296 --> 00:18:18,064
- Yeah, I guess so, accidentally.
366
00:18:18,064 --> 00:18:19,165
So do you have
a surveillance setup
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00:18:19,165 --> 00:18:20,033
here or something?
368
00:18:20,033 --> 00:18:22,569
- Well, for the time being I did.
369
00:18:22,569 --> 00:18:25,338
I have like plugins, I can
plug into the wall and stuff,
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00:18:25,338 --> 00:18:26,206
if I need to.
371
00:18:26,206 --> 00:18:29,742
At one point this was like a
working studio of some sort.
372
00:18:31,544 --> 00:18:33,713
I think maybe
Jim has arrived now.
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Can you...
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00:18:37,584 --> 00:18:40,386
- Hi, I'm Rein.
- Hey, how are you?
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- We pre-determined that we met.
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00:18:43,490 --> 00:18:46,226
Hold on, hey
hey yeah Jim what's up?
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00:18:46,226 --> 00:18:47,627
- How are you?
- Doing pretty good.
378
00:18:47,627 --> 00:18:49,996
- Lotus.
- Um, Locus.
379
00:18:49,996 --> 00:18:51,297
- Locus, Locus.
380
00:18:52,565 --> 00:18:53,700
- Hi.
- How are you?
381
00:18:54,634 --> 00:18:55,502
I'm Jim.
382
00:18:57,303 --> 00:18:59,239
It was inevitable
that the combination
383
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of the internet,
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a television show about
paranormal happenings,
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and similar ages, would draw
Jim Suerd to "Fact or Fiction".
386
00:19:10,416 --> 00:19:15,221
- So just to give some,
a little background,
387
00:19:15,221 --> 00:19:17,056
you know basically we're
going to be doing this
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00:19:17,056 --> 00:19:21,761
webcast, cablecast in the in
search of the Jersey Devil,
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00:19:21,761 --> 00:19:23,229
the Leeds devil,
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down in the Pine Barrens.
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00:19:24,197 --> 00:19:26,699
And basically why we've gotten
you guys together here is
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because you have skills regarding audio
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and paranormal activity so we're hoping
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that you can help us in that way,
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00:19:34,307 --> 00:19:36,309
and you have these psychic abilities.
396
00:19:36,309 --> 00:19:37,577
- Psychic abilities,
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00:19:37,577 --> 00:19:41,414
I feel that I can, I can really help out.
398
00:19:41,414 --> 00:19:43,016
I understand what you're trying to do and
399
00:19:43,016 --> 00:19:45,018
I really think that I can help out.
400
00:19:45,018 --> 00:19:47,387
- You can help us find
help us find a location.
401
00:19:47,387 --> 00:19:50,223
You can help us tap into whatever we need.
402
00:19:50,223 --> 00:19:51,791
- I can pinpoint that location.
403
00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:56,629
- Jim came to me one day and told me
404
00:19:56,629 --> 00:19:59,999
how excited he was that he had met these
405
00:19:59,999 --> 00:20:01,734
people over the Internet.
406
00:20:01,734 --> 00:20:05,805
It was some show, "Fact or Fiction",
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00:20:05,805 --> 00:20:10,109
and he was to be their
guide in the Pine Barrens
408
00:20:10,109 --> 00:20:14,314
and what really amazed
me, I just didn't think
409
00:20:14,314 --> 00:20:18,618
he knew or had any knowledge
of the Pine Barrens to be able
410
00:20:18,618 --> 00:20:20,753
to even be a guide.
411
00:20:20,753 --> 00:20:23,790
But he seemed so excited about it.
412
00:20:25,358 --> 00:20:26,359
- Is this, is this good?
413
00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:28,361
- Do you want to hold them up
or do you want me to just...
414
00:20:30,129 --> 00:20:31,464
- Just like this.
415
00:20:31,464 --> 00:20:33,266
Don't touch, you can't touch.
416
00:20:33,266 --> 00:20:34,100
Okay.
417
00:20:36,703 --> 00:20:37,604
- Six Spade.
418
00:20:41,841 --> 00:20:42,742
Seven Spade.
419
00:20:44,344 --> 00:20:45,211
Four Spade.
420
00:20:49,749 --> 00:20:50,583
Five Spade
421
00:20:52,185 --> 00:20:53,052
Eight Club.
422
00:20:54,287 --> 00:20:55,154
Eight Diamond.
423
00:21:06,165 --> 00:21:07,367
Come on, man.
424
00:21:12,739 --> 00:21:16,709
- I saw him probably
about two or three weeks
425
00:21:16,709 --> 00:21:19,312
before the incident.
426
00:21:19,312 --> 00:21:22,482
I ran into him at a shopping mall.
427
00:21:22,482 --> 00:21:27,487
And he was very excited about his life.
428
00:21:27,587 --> 00:21:31,057
He said he was studying acting.
429
00:21:31,057 --> 00:21:33,826
His magic was coming together.
430
00:21:33,826 --> 00:21:35,628
People were appreciating it.
431
00:21:35,628 --> 00:21:38,731
Combined with the acting,
I guess he did a few gigs
432
00:21:38,731 --> 00:21:40,566
on a small level but it was
433
00:21:40,566 --> 00:21:42,502
it was going very very well.
434
00:21:51,611 --> 00:21:53,546
Give him more ashes.
435
00:21:53,546 --> 00:21:55,448
There's something on his arm.
436
00:21:55,448 --> 00:21:56,316
His arm.
437
00:22:01,721 --> 00:22:04,023
1395.
438
00:22:04,023 --> 00:22:05,024
What does this mean?
439
00:22:07,327 --> 00:22:08,528
- I don't know.
440
00:22:13,066 --> 00:22:14,033
Back off, back off.
441
00:22:14,033 --> 00:22:15,802
Are you recording this?
442
00:22:18,271 --> 00:22:20,173
Was Jim psychic?
443
00:22:20,173 --> 00:22:22,075
It was not likely.
444
00:22:22,075 --> 00:22:23,343
The card demonstration,
445
00:22:23,343 --> 00:22:26,212
and the supposed psychic fit,
in which numbers appeared
446
00:22:26,212 --> 00:22:27,246
on his arm,
447
00:22:27,246 --> 00:22:29,382
were nothing more than simple tricks
448
00:22:29,382 --> 00:22:30,817
known to any amateur magician.
449
00:22:32,218 --> 00:22:36,689
To Steven and Locus, Rein Clackin
and Jim Suerd were perfect
450
00:22:36,689 --> 00:22:38,458
for "Fact or Fiction".
451
00:22:38,458 --> 00:22:41,594
Youthful, eager and strange.
452
00:22:52,338 --> 00:22:55,708
On December 15th 1995,
453
00:22:55,708 --> 00:22:58,578
Steven Avkast, Locus Wheeler,
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00:22:58,578 --> 00:23:01,514
Rein Clackin and Jim Suerd
455
00:23:01,514 --> 00:23:03,783
headed for the Pine Barrens of New Jersey
456
00:23:03,783 --> 00:23:05,651
to do a live broadcast
457
00:23:05,651 --> 00:23:07,453
in search of the Jersey Devil.
458
00:23:08,788 --> 00:23:11,691
Jim Suerd would be the only one to return.
459
00:23:15,228 --> 00:23:17,330
911, what is your emergency?
460
00:23:18,398 --> 00:23:20,533
My name is Jim Suerd
and I just hitchhiked here
461
00:23:20,533 --> 00:23:23,169
from the middle of Pine Barrens.
462
00:23:23,169 --> 00:23:25,638
And I can't seem to get, I can't seem
463
00:23:25,638 --> 00:23:27,540
to find the people that I
was in the Pine Barrens with
464
00:23:27,540 --> 00:23:30,243
and I was camping with them
last night doing a project.
465
00:23:30,243 --> 00:23:31,244
Are you lost?
466
00:23:31,244 --> 00:23:33,579
I'm not lost, I'm just trying to,
467
00:23:33,579 --> 00:23:36,749
I can't find the people
that drove me here.
468
00:23:36,749 --> 00:23:40,186
And you know I looked around
for them and I went back
469
00:23:40,186 --> 00:23:41,454
to the site where we had parked
470
00:23:41,454 --> 00:23:43,089
and they're not at the
van and they're nowhere
471
00:23:43,089 --> 00:23:45,391
to be found like I don't
know where they are.
472
00:23:45,391 --> 00:23:47,560
Their vehicle is still there?
473
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:48,428
The vehicle is still there.
474
00:23:48,428 --> 00:23:50,596
And I had to hitchhike to this payphone.
475
00:23:50,596 --> 00:23:53,466
How far are you
from the vehicle right now?
476
00:23:54,700 --> 00:23:57,103
I'm about five,
five, somewhere, you know,
477
00:23:57,103 --> 00:23:58,304
five, 10 miles from it.
478
00:23:58,304 --> 00:23:59,338
I don't know.
479
00:23:59,338 --> 00:24:01,607
Okay Jim,
we'll send someone out.
480
00:24:01,607 --> 00:24:04,677
- After Mr. Suerd made the call,
481
00:24:04,677 --> 00:24:06,712
we went to the area that he specified
482
00:24:06,712 --> 00:24:09,482
and did a preliminary look around,
483
00:24:10,416 --> 00:24:14,053
under a missing-persons investigation.
484
00:24:14,053 --> 00:24:16,255
- I mean I just figured that
was one of the little stints
485
00:24:16,255 --> 00:24:19,992
to do just to try to get
that extra sensationalism.
486
00:24:19,992 --> 00:24:22,662
So I didn't think anything of it at first.
487
00:24:22,662 --> 00:24:26,399
You know I kind of expected
them to try something like that.
488
00:24:26,399 --> 00:24:27,733
We have a 187.
489
00:24:27,733 --> 00:24:29,402
Repeat, we have a 187.
490
00:24:30,636 --> 00:24:33,172
This isn't a missing
person's report anymore.
491
00:24:34,207 --> 00:24:35,041
912?
492
00:24:36,676 --> 00:24:37,610
We're clear.
493
00:24:37,610 --> 00:24:39,812
Do you need emergency support?
494
00:24:39,812 --> 00:24:41,614
1012
495
00:24:41,614 --> 00:24:42,482
No.
496
00:24:42,482 --> 00:24:44,684
This guy's definitely DOA.
497
00:24:44,684 --> 00:24:48,287
- One body we found
approximately 2.5 miles
498
00:24:48,287 --> 00:24:49,689
from the campsite.
499
00:24:50,656 --> 00:24:53,693
The other body, we found
approximately three miles
500
00:24:53,693 --> 00:24:55,161
from the campsite.
501
00:24:55,161 --> 00:24:57,663
The body of Steven
Avkast was never found.
502
00:24:58,764 --> 00:25:02,168
Large amounts of blood
in the snow and a hat
503
00:25:02,168 --> 00:25:04,303
were all that remained
of this third victim.
504
00:25:05,605 --> 00:25:07,540
- In any murder investigation,
505
00:25:07,540 --> 00:25:11,310
anybody associated with
the victims is a suspect.
506
00:25:11,310 --> 00:25:14,380
Our job is to eliminate suspects based
507
00:25:14,380 --> 00:25:18,017
on the evidence that we sift
through and that we gather,
508
00:25:18,017 --> 00:25:19,719
and as we sifted through
509
00:25:19,719 --> 00:25:21,687
and gathered this evidence there was
510
00:25:21,687 --> 00:25:25,591
only one suspect left at the
end and that was Mr. Jim Suerd.
511
00:25:27,326 --> 00:25:29,395
Who led
everybody to the site?
512
00:25:29,395 --> 00:25:30,263
I did.
513
00:25:30,263 --> 00:25:31,130
You did.
514
00:25:31,130 --> 00:25:32,164
Did anybody else know where you were going
515
00:25:32,164 --> 00:25:33,499
to set up and camp?
516
00:25:33,499 --> 00:25:38,237
Well, I was asked to
uh, to find a place to camp.
517
00:25:38,237 --> 00:25:41,574
And I thought that I was
doing a good job at it
518
00:25:41,574 --> 00:25:44,410
and Rein continued to provoke me and uh
519
00:25:46,012 --> 00:25:47,747
and then give me a hard
time about my ability
520
00:25:47,747 --> 00:25:48,748
to locate the place
521
00:25:48,748 --> 00:25:52,418
that we would camp and ultimately it just
522
00:25:52,418 --> 00:25:56,289
led to an argument and I
ran away from the group.
523
00:25:56,289 --> 00:25:57,757
Did you hit him first?
524
00:25:58,658 --> 00:26:01,027
I don't know, I
might have pushed him.
525
00:26:01,961 --> 00:26:05,097
Sometimes I can't remember if I, you know.
526
00:26:05,097 --> 00:26:10,102
I ran away from group and I
found the spot that I thought
527
00:26:10,102 --> 00:26:12,171
would be good to locate the Jersey Devil.
528
00:26:13,506 --> 00:26:15,575
- After we got the
permission from the state
529
00:26:15,575 --> 00:26:17,376
of Pennsylvania to search
530
00:26:17,376 --> 00:26:21,180
Mr. Suerd's residence,
we went to his residence
531
00:26:21,180 --> 00:26:23,115
and we did conduct a search
532
00:26:23,115 --> 00:26:27,019
for anything that we felt
would help us in this case
533
00:26:27,019 --> 00:26:28,988
and we did find the garments
534
00:26:28,988 --> 00:26:30,523
that Mr. Suerd was wearing that night,
535
00:26:30,523 --> 00:26:33,059
with the blood of the three victims on it.
536
00:26:33,059 --> 00:26:35,194
Interestingly, the garments that Mr. Suerd
537
00:26:35,194 --> 00:26:37,363
was wearing were merely
538
00:26:37,363 --> 00:26:39,332
lying right on his bedroom floor,
539
00:26:39,332 --> 00:26:41,734
along with the other dirty
laundry that was there.
540
00:26:45,705 --> 00:26:47,707
Even as Jim was arrested,
541
00:26:47,707 --> 00:26:49,709
the evidence continued
to mount against him.
542
00:26:53,045 --> 00:26:57,483
- We could tell that
the nature of the blows
543
00:26:57,483 --> 00:26:59,352
with the weapons that were used
544
00:26:59,352 --> 00:27:04,156
were consistent with the size
and build of the accused.
545
00:27:05,057 --> 00:27:09,528
In this case it was very
clear that the attacker
546
00:27:09,528 --> 00:27:14,000
was using both hands with two
weapons and was ambidextrous.
547
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,402
And the suspect in this
case is ambidextrous,
548
00:27:16,402 --> 00:27:17,703
which is quite rare.
549
00:27:18,738 --> 00:27:20,740
- He was the only survivor
550
00:27:21,641 --> 00:27:23,976
in the place where nobody else was.
551
00:27:23,976 --> 00:27:25,645
It doesn't look that good for him.
552
00:27:27,346 --> 00:27:29,115
- Ladies and gentlemen of the jury,
553
00:27:29,115 --> 00:27:32,318
we will show that on December 15th 1995,
554
00:27:32,318 --> 00:27:35,121
Jim Suerd maliciously
and with premeditation
555
00:27:35,121 --> 00:27:37,590
killed Rein Clackin and Locus Wheeler.
556
00:27:37,590 --> 00:27:39,158
We will show, without doubt,
557
00:27:39,158 --> 00:27:42,028
how he planned this well
in advance of that day.
558
00:27:42,028 --> 00:27:44,463
We will show, with video
shot by the deceased,
559
00:27:44,463 --> 00:27:48,300
that Jim Suerd was, and is,
a devious and cunning person.
560
00:27:48,300 --> 00:27:49,769
Using the guise of psychic
561
00:27:49,769 --> 00:27:52,104
to perpetrate these horrible acts.
562
00:27:53,606 --> 00:27:55,174
The proceedings that summer turned out
563
00:27:55,174 --> 00:27:56,442
to be one of the greatest spectacles
564
00:27:56,442 --> 00:27:58,144
of Baroake County history.
565
00:27:58,144 --> 00:28:00,546
The trial attracted a strange
assemblage of cult followers,
566
00:28:00,546 --> 00:28:03,315
ritual homicide fanatics
and others seeking
567
00:28:03,315 --> 00:28:05,251
to satisfy their morbid curiosities.
568
00:28:06,385 --> 00:28:07,953
Eventually, it became a matter of trying
569
00:28:07,953 --> 00:28:09,722
to keep the tabloid press at bay.
570
00:28:09,722 --> 00:28:12,091
An effort which was not
entirely successful.
571
00:28:12,091 --> 00:28:13,626
- When the court case came up,
572
00:28:15,094 --> 00:28:18,998
the media frenzy was hysterical.
573
00:28:18,998 --> 00:28:21,567
I felt like they were, you know,
574
00:28:21,567 --> 00:28:24,503
somebody was watching
me like every minute.
575
00:28:24,503 --> 00:28:26,539
They were talking to everybody,
576
00:28:26,539 --> 00:28:29,508
everybody who had the slightest
thing to do with the show.
577
00:28:29,508 --> 00:28:30,776
Who knows, they probably even talked
578
00:28:30,776 --> 00:28:33,579
to every single viewer that
said they watched the show.
579
00:28:35,648 --> 00:28:37,316
Reporters day in and day out
580
00:28:37,316 --> 00:28:41,387
and police here just taking
everything they could;
581
00:28:41,387 --> 00:28:44,490
every videotape, every prop,
582
00:28:44,490 --> 00:28:47,259
and I mean it was ridiculous.
583
00:28:47,259 --> 00:28:48,627
I don't know what they were looking for,
584
00:28:48,627 --> 00:28:51,097
all they were getting was
a bunch of bad television.
585
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:55,768
In an election year,
586
00:28:55,768 --> 00:28:57,236
what the prosecution was looking
587
00:28:57,236 --> 00:29:00,039
for was an open and shut case.
588
00:29:00,039 --> 00:29:02,608
And in the state of New
Jersey versus Jim Suerd,
589
00:29:02,608 --> 00:29:04,243
they found it.
590
00:29:04,243 --> 00:29:07,046
Not content to leave any stone unturned
591
00:29:07,046 --> 00:29:09,048
they decided to utilize
the very video that
592
00:29:09,048 --> 00:29:11,751
Steven Avkast and Locus Wheeler had shot.
593
00:29:12,685 --> 00:29:15,321
The man, who would later by the press come
594
00:29:15,321 --> 00:29:17,423
to be known as "The killer cutter",
595
00:29:17,423 --> 00:29:19,258
was hired to go through this video.
596
00:29:19,258 --> 00:29:22,128
And put together an
incriminating image of Jim Suerd.
597
00:29:23,696 --> 00:29:25,965
- The prosecution contacted me
598
00:29:25,965 --> 00:29:30,202
in early January 1996.
599
00:29:30,202 --> 00:29:34,106
They had a pretty good case
against him, it seemed to me
600
00:29:34,106 --> 00:29:35,241
from what I saw.
601
00:29:36,442 --> 00:29:39,578
They had blood evidence,
they'd found the blood
602
00:29:39,578 --> 00:29:41,714
and you know this was the only guy there.
603
00:29:43,282 --> 00:29:46,352
And he was the only one
that knew where it was.
604
00:29:47,620 --> 00:29:51,090
But they wanted to clinch this case.
605
00:29:51,090 --> 00:29:53,325
They didn't want, they
really wanted to get him.
606
00:29:53,325 --> 00:29:56,362
They didn't want there to be any question
607
00:29:56,362 --> 00:29:57,363
that he had done it.
608
00:29:58,397 --> 00:30:01,333
So they came to me with
all this videotape,
609
00:30:01,333 --> 00:30:03,636
like 15 hours of videotape.
610
00:30:03,636 --> 00:30:08,073
And this was video that these
guys who did this cable show
611
00:30:08,073 --> 00:30:10,176
had shot on location.
612
00:30:10,176 --> 00:30:12,111
I'd never really edited anything like,
613
00:30:12,111 --> 00:30:13,813
I mean I'd never seen
anything like this before,
614
00:30:13,813 --> 00:30:17,516
I mean this was like video
from the crime scene.
615
00:30:17,516 --> 00:30:20,286
And normally, you know,
I've got, you know,
616
00:30:20,286 --> 00:30:22,021
hours and hours of people
617
00:30:22,021 --> 00:30:25,157
talking heads like, you know in some room
618
00:30:25,157 --> 00:30:27,159
somewhere badly shot.
619
00:30:27,159 --> 00:30:28,661
This was badly shot but at least it was
620
00:30:28,661 --> 00:30:30,696
out in the woods, you know.
621
00:30:30,696 --> 00:30:32,231
It was different.
622
00:30:32,231 --> 00:30:33,666
The prosecution's video
623
00:30:33,666 --> 00:30:35,801
was intended to show facts.
624
00:30:35,801 --> 00:30:39,438
Perhaps, not inadvertently,
it also created an intimacy
625
00:30:39,438 --> 00:30:40,773
with the murdered three,
626
00:30:40,773 --> 00:30:43,108
that the defense was unhappy with.
627
00:30:43,108 --> 00:30:45,644
- We're stopping to get some gasoline.
628
00:30:45,644 --> 00:30:48,647
They protested it,
deeming it an unfair swaying
629
00:30:48,647 --> 00:30:50,115
towards a guilty verdict.
630
00:30:51,383 --> 00:30:53,219
This was not enough reason for the video
631
00:30:53,219 --> 00:30:56,689
to be struck down and so it was used.
632
00:30:58,424 --> 00:31:01,327
The first point demonstrated
that Jim was indeed
633
00:31:01,327 --> 00:31:03,596
leading the group into very remote regions
634
00:31:03,596 --> 00:31:05,397
of the Pine Barrens.
635
00:31:05,397 --> 00:31:08,400
Areas where there was
no hope for help or aid
636
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:09,668
from the civilized world.
637
00:31:10,669 --> 00:31:12,738
The following represents excerpts
638
00:31:12,738 --> 00:31:15,608
from the first section
of the prosecution video.
639
00:31:15,608 --> 00:31:19,445
Over 54 minutes of video,
showing the four wandering deeper
640
00:31:19,445 --> 00:31:21,680
into the pines, was shot.
641
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,783
It is estimated that the four
walked for more than two hours
642
00:31:24,783 --> 00:31:27,286
before Jim finally
decided upon the location
643
00:31:27,286 --> 00:31:28,687
of their operations.
644
00:31:28,687 --> 00:31:29,755
Hey guys he's starting to go.
645
00:31:29,755 --> 00:31:31,357
Let's get the stuff together.
646
00:31:34,126 --> 00:31:35,327
So what's the deal, Jim?
647
00:31:36,362 --> 00:31:40,232
- Something's come right through here.
648
00:31:42,501 --> 00:31:45,371
When Jim finally
found the perfect location,
649
00:31:45,371 --> 00:31:46,739
it was more than three miles
650
00:31:46,739 --> 00:31:49,308
from their van and the
nearest access road.
651
00:31:53,112 --> 00:31:56,048
The second point was to
make evident a defendant
652
00:31:56,048 --> 00:31:57,750
who had an agenda.
653
00:31:57,750 --> 00:32:00,252
An agenda warped enough
to commit these murders.
654
00:32:05,524 --> 00:32:10,462
- I've been contacting
the supernatural world
655
00:32:10,462 --> 00:32:11,630
for the last week.
656
00:32:12,731 --> 00:32:15,034
Last couple days I've been
657
00:32:15,034 --> 00:32:17,236
in contact, getting my
spiritual self together
658
00:32:17,236 --> 00:32:18,804
for this journey.
659
00:32:18,804 --> 00:32:22,474
We've put ourselves out on and
660
00:32:24,543 --> 00:32:28,280
we are headed in the right
direction, I can assure you.
661
00:32:30,115 --> 00:32:31,183
I can feel it.
662
00:32:31,183 --> 00:32:34,653
It's a gut instinct in my body that,
663
00:32:35,688 --> 00:32:37,523
we're going to find the Leeds devil,
664
00:32:39,124 --> 00:32:40,693
and we're going to settle this case,
665
00:32:43,329 --> 00:32:44,630
once and for all.
666
00:32:46,398 --> 00:32:51,070
I feel that I know what
I'm doing here and for you
667
00:32:52,338 --> 00:32:54,039
is perfectly authentic.
668
00:32:56,809 --> 00:33:01,413
I have a feeling inside,
it's it's a definite feeling,
669
00:33:01,413 --> 00:33:05,351
we are at a place where
with the Jersey Devil,
670
00:33:05,351 --> 00:33:07,219
we will encounter the Jersey Devil.
671
00:33:10,189 --> 00:33:12,725
I know we're headed in
the right direction.
672
00:33:12,725 --> 00:33:15,327
Repeated phrases such as,
673
00:33:15,327 --> 00:33:16,528
"We're going to settle this thing
674
00:33:16,528 --> 00:33:18,063
"once and for all"
675
00:33:18,063 --> 00:33:21,800
and "I know we're headed
in the right direction",
676
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,803
seemed to clearly show Jim's agenda.
677
00:33:24,803 --> 00:33:27,539
It didn't take much to
read into these phrases,
678
00:33:27,539 --> 00:33:30,743
and see an individual with a
plan that was to be carried out
679
00:33:30,743 --> 00:33:32,411
in the desolate Pine Barrens.
680
00:33:36,648 --> 00:33:39,318
As the prosecution's video progressed,
681
00:33:39,318 --> 00:33:41,353
Jim's personality changed
682
00:33:41,353 --> 00:33:43,722
from a quiet and shy person,
683
00:33:43,722 --> 00:33:46,759
to one that presented the
prosecution with an opportunity
684
00:33:46,759 --> 00:33:50,162
to show the violent nature
just below the surface.
685
00:33:52,031 --> 00:33:52,731
- Look man,
686
00:33:55,434 --> 00:33:57,436
I'll see you back at camp, man!
687
00:34:02,374 --> 00:34:04,510
I don't know what Jim's doing.
688
00:34:04,510 --> 00:34:05,711
I think he's talking
about burning something.
689
00:34:05,711 --> 00:34:07,346
An agenda proven,
690
00:34:07,346 --> 00:34:09,782
and a potential violent streak proven,
691
00:34:09,782 --> 00:34:12,985
the prosecution solidified
their first-degree murder case
692
00:34:12,985 --> 00:34:16,155
against Suerd with
video taken in the barn.
693
00:34:16,155 --> 00:34:17,623
Video in which the original date
694
00:34:17,623 --> 00:34:19,591
of the trip appeared on Suerd's arm.
695
00:34:20,793 --> 00:34:23,195
The defense attempted
to have this also struck
696
00:34:23,195 --> 00:34:24,430
from the records,
697
00:34:24,430 --> 00:34:26,432
claiming the video of Suerd to be that
698
00:34:26,432 --> 00:34:28,200
of a character he was playing.
699
00:34:29,068 --> 00:34:31,103
The prosecution countered
by agreeing fully
700
00:34:31,103 --> 00:34:34,740
with this assessment of Suerd
and the events in the barn.
701
00:34:34,740 --> 00:34:37,142
Events that had taken
place a full two weeks
702
00:34:37,142 --> 00:34:38,444
before the trip;
703
00:34:38,444 --> 00:34:41,046
the best argument for premeditated murder.
704
00:35:09,041 --> 00:35:11,176
The trip began at sunrise.
705
00:35:11,176 --> 00:35:14,213
Steven ran a video
camera much of the time,
706
00:35:14,213 --> 00:35:16,181
documenting what should have been amusing
707
00:35:16,181 --> 00:35:17,549
but banal preparation.
708
00:35:23,589 --> 00:35:25,324
Locus, do you
wanna do a blurb about?
709
00:35:25,324 --> 00:35:26,758
- Yeah, I'll do it.
710
00:35:26,758 --> 00:35:28,360
Locus.
711
00:35:29,728 --> 00:35:31,130
Yeah but I'm getting light,
712
00:35:31,130 --> 00:35:32,698
the backlight's killing your face.
713
00:35:32,698 --> 00:35:34,166
- What do you mean the
backlight's killing my face?
714
00:35:34,166 --> 00:35:36,001
Why don't you adjust it?
715
00:35:36,001 --> 00:35:37,736
What do you mean you can't?
716
00:35:39,771 --> 00:35:41,673
Okay you ready?
- Yeah, yeah.
717
00:35:41,673 --> 00:35:44,810
- Okay, we're here at Rein's
barn, and we're getting, okay.
718
00:35:44,810 --> 00:35:46,545
Here.
719
00:35:46,545 --> 00:35:49,581
Come on, I'm trying to
get at this on camera.
720
00:35:55,587 --> 00:35:58,090
The trip, guided by Jim,
721
00:35:58,090 --> 00:35:59,258
took them into the loneliest
722
00:35:59,258 --> 00:36:02,060
of areas on a lonely cold day.
723
00:36:02,060 --> 00:36:04,263
Here's to you, Steven.
724
00:36:04,263 --> 00:36:05,531
A stop at a gas station
725
00:36:05,531 --> 00:36:07,399
was the last obvious landmark,
726
00:36:07,399 --> 00:36:09,968
before they moved into
the unidentifiable roads
727
00:36:09,968 --> 00:36:10,969
of the Pine Barrens.
728
00:36:12,738 --> 00:36:15,741
At a certain point, at Jim's request,
729
00:36:15,741 --> 00:36:18,677
they stopped, parked and started
730
00:36:18,677 --> 00:36:20,612
walking into the woods.
731
00:36:20,612 --> 00:36:22,648
Following the psychic visions of Suerd.
732
00:36:25,250 --> 00:36:26,118
- I understand.
733
00:36:26,118 --> 00:36:27,152
He's gonna do it this is part
734
00:36:27,152 --> 00:36:29,988
of the show we gotta do it in
a place he thinks is right.
735
00:36:29,988 --> 00:36:31,390
Because if we're gonna find something
736
00:36:31,390 --> 00:36:33,358
yeah we could fake it,
but I don't go for that.
737
00:36:33,358 --> 00:36:34,326
I think we should go for real
738
00:36:34,326 --> 00:36:37,663
and he's off doing his thing
that's why we got him here.
739
00:36:43,502 --> 00:36:44,369
We knew this was gonna be it.
740
00:36:44,369 --> 00:36:45,370
We knew, we all talked about.
741
00:36:45,370 --> 00:36:46,805
We knew we were going to be way out here.
742
00:36:46,805 --> 00:36:49,107
- Here he comes.
- Let's see what he says.
743
00:36:54,713 --> 00:36:56,782
- Where did you get this guy from anyway?
744
00:36:56,782 --> 00:36:58,483
Psychics R US?
745
00:37:02,487 --> 00:37:04,022
I think this
is a pretty good idea.
746
00:37:04,022 --> 00:37:06,992
Us waiting around and then
him finding the spot you know
747
00:37:06,992 --> 00:37:08,727
and then taking the stuff over to it.
748
00:37:10,062 --> 00:37:12,097
- Yeah, we still gotta go back to the car
749
00:37:12,097 --> 00:37:13,665
and get stuff, man.
750
00:37:13,665 --> 00:37:14,700
I don't think he even knows that.
751
00:37:14,700 --> 00:37:15,567
Is he volunteering?
752
00:37:15,567 --> 00:37:17,603
I don't think so.
753
00:37:17,603 --> 00:37:19,338
Well, I know he's
not carrying too much.
754
00:37:19,338 --> 00:37:21,406
But you know what he said about that.
755
00:37:21,406 --> 00:37:22,674
it's a vibe thing.
756
00:37:23,742 --> 00:37:26,111
Tensions increase
as they work further
757
00:37:26,111 --> 00:37:28,213
into the forsaken Pines.
758
00:37:28,213 --> 00:37:32,451
And then a key point in the
prosecution video arrives.
759
00:37:34,553 --> 00:37:39,057
Jim, are you
a psychic or a psycho?
760
00:37:40,993 --> 00:37:41,693
- Look man!
761
00:37:44,529 --> 00:37:46,465
I'll see you back at camp, man!
762
00:37:49,434 --> 00:37:51,570
Approximately one hour later,
763
00:37:51,570 --> 00:37:53,472
judging from the sun,
764
00:37:53,472 --> 00:37:55,507
a camp is being built.
765
00:37:55,507 --> 00:37:58,443
Discussions are already
being had about Suerd.
766
00:37:58,443 --> 00:38:00,245
Suerd is not helping.
767
00:38:00,245 --> 00:38:01,580
He's keeping to himself.
768
00:38:04,216 --> 00:38:06,485
For the next two hours,
the video of the group
769
00:38:06,485 --> 00:38:08,086
is a collection of promotions for
770
00:38:08,086 --> 00:38:11,056
future cable shows; the
camera frequently left
771
00:38:11,056 --> 00:38:12,324
on between takes.
772
00:38:12,324 --> 00:38:15,027
- This is Locus reporting
from the Pine Barrens
773
00:38:15,027 --> 00:38:16,495
and I'm with Rein.
774
00:38:16,495 --> 00:38:17,596
Our sound man.
775
00:38:17,596 --> 00:38:19,631
Gee, Rein I'm pretty parched.
776
00:38:19,631 --> 00:38:21,099
- I sure am, too.
777
00:38:21,099 --> 00:38:23,201
- Wow is that is that mulberry
778
00:38:23,201 --> 00:38:24,703
natural spring water?
779
00:38:24,703 --> 00:38:26,405
- Yes from Mueller's.
780
00:38:26,405 --> 00:38:29,141
- Wow, how about, I wish I could have a
781
00:38:29,141 --> 00:38:31,343
sparkling glass of that.
782
00:38:31,343 --> 00:38:34,379
- Boy I'm telling you and in a gallon jar.
783
00:38:34,379 --> 00:38:35,247
- Jug.
784
00:38:35,247 --> 00:38:36,114
the mood is good.
785
00:38:36,114 --> 00:38:36,982
- Let's do that again.
786
00:38:36,982 --> 00:38:39,751
Jim does not
join them, instead staying
787
00:38:39,751 --> 00:38:40,786
in the tent on IRC.
788
00:38:44,656 --> 00:38:48,293
- I don't really feel like I'm
being taken very seriously,
789
00:38:50,696 --> 00:38:51,730
by really any of you.
790
00:38:53,031 --> 00:38:53,732
I'm taking you seriously.
791
00:38:53,732 --> 00:38:56,134
We set up here you know.
792
00:38:58,437 --> 00:39:01,206
- I'm doing what, what I do and
793
00:39:02,207 --> 00:39:04,209
I don't appreciate being laughed at.
794
00:39:05,577 --> 00:39:08,146
Well it's just a stress thing.
795
00:39:09,681 --> 00:39:11,583
Look we're gonna be going on in a bit.
796
00:39:11,583 --> 00:39:13,385
You gonna come out for the broadcast?
797
00:39:18,523 --> 00:39:20,992
- I think that I'll probably stay in here.
798
00:39:25,030 --> 00:39:25,997
Stay on IRC.
799
00:39:28,100 --> 00:39:29,267
Okay.
800
00:39:29,267 --> 00:39:30,469
At 10 p.m.
801
00:39:30,469 --> 00:39:33,605
in what will be the last broadcast,
802
00:39:33,605 --> 00:39:35,207
"Fact or Fiction" goes live.
803
00:39:37,442 --> 00:39:39,611
- This is Johnny-
- And Locus.
804
00:39:39,611 --> 00:39:41,380
- And we are live in the Pine Barrens
805
00:39:41,380 --> 00:39:44,249
where tonight we are doing a first ever,
806
00:39:44,249 --> 00:39:46,451
internet broadcast, cable-
807
00:39:54,292 --> 00:39:58,563
Jim has been on IRC
for two hours and 30 minutes.
808
00:39:58,563 --> 00:40:02,334
A surveillance camera
records the camp to VHS tape.
809
00:40:02,334 --> 00:40:05,470
It runs for two hours before shutting off.
810
00:40:05,470 --> 00:40:06,772
At one a.m.
811
00:40:06,772 --> 00:40:10,041
the last tape in the
series of 22 tapes shot
812
00:40:10,041 --> 00:40:12,778
by Locus Wheeler and Rein Clackin
813
00:40:12,778 --> 00:40:13,745
reaches its end.
814
00:40:13,745 --> 00:40:15,514
I think this is a way for him
815
00:40:15,514 --> 00:40:17,215
to try and scare us or something.
816
00:40:19,684 --> 00:40:20,552
Man, this thing's still on.
817
00:40:20,552 --> 00:40:23,522
What the hell's going on?
- Oh, I must have left it on.
818
00:40:23,522 --> 00:40:25,157
We should change tapes.
819
00:40:25,157 --> 00:40:26,425
Did you change tapes?
820
00:40:26,425 --> 00:40:28,693
Here, I'm gonna change tapes in this.
821
00:40:28,693 --> 00:40:31,596
There is no
indication that this is done.
822
00:40:31,596 --> 00:40:33,598
No other footage exists.
823
00:40:54,219 --> 00:40:57,522
The tape show a group of men
going through a wide range
824
00:40:57,522 --> 00:40:59,191
of emotions.
825
00:40:59,191 --> 00:41:01,793
Seemingly enjoying their
jaunt into the pine barrens.
826
00:41:04,129 --> 00:41:06,731
The tape shows the
brooding nature of one man
827
00:41:06,731 --> 00:41:08,700
who does not share in the frivolity.
828
00:41:10,235 --> 00:41:14,239
The tapes do make clear the
maladjusted nature of Jim Suerd.
829
00:41:18,143 --> 00:41:20,345
Though Suerd maintained his innocence,
830
00:41:20,345 --> 00:41:21,680
the facts were indisputable.
831
00:41:22,581 --> 00:41:26,051
Four people went into the Pine
Barrens, only Jim returned.
832
00:41:26,818 --> 00:41:29,287
Blood of all three was
found on on Jim's shirt.
833
00:41:30,155 --> 00:41:32,657
His pushing Rein showed a
potential violent streak.
834
00:41:33,725 --> 00:41:35,460
The angle and depth of the cuts
835
00:41:35,460 --> 00:41:39,197
and lacerations matched somebody
of his height and weight
836
00:41:39,197 --> 00:41:42,167
and more importantly ambidextrous nature.
837
00:41:42,167 --> 00:41:44,102
The number, which closely matched
838
00:41:44,102 --> 00:41:46,671
the date of the murders appearing
through ashes on his arm,
839
00:41:46,671 --> 00:41:47,539
was deemed to
840
00:41:47,539 --> 00:41:50,141
be a good case for premeditated murder.
841
00:41:50,141 --> 00:41:52,143
The tape showing the four walking further
842
00:41:52,143 --> 00:41:54,079
and further into the woods,
843
00:41:54,079 --> 00:41:57,215
virtually guaranteed a
seclusion from civilization
844
00:41:57,215 --> 00:41:59,084
that would make the killing easier.
845
00:42:00,218 --> 00:42:02,187
The defense's one victory was
846
00:42:02,187 --> 00:42:04,122
getting the third charge of murder,
847
00:42:04,122 --> 00:42:06,525
the murder of Steven Avkast, dropped.
848
00:42:07,492 --> 00:42:10,762
Though a body is not necessarily
needed to prove a murder,
849
00:42:10,762 --> 00:42:13,031
the prosecution had more
than enough evidence
850
00:42:13,031 --> 00:42:14,699
with the two bodies that were found.
851
00:42:15,700 --> 00:42:19,404
On July 16th 1996
852
00:42:19,404 --> 00:42:22,207
Jim Suerd was found guilty on two counts
853
00:42:22,207 --> 00:42:23,375
of first degree murder.
854
00:42:24,509 --> 00:42:26,244
He was sentenced to two life terms
855
00:42:27,178 --> 00:42:29,147
to be served consecutively.
856
00:42:44,229 --> 00:42:48,733
- I think the whole trial was
a kangaroo court of sorts,
857
00:42:48,733 --> 00:42:50,201
a pig circus.
858
00:42:50,201 --> 00:42:52,037
I mean it's...
859
00:42:52,037 --> 00:42:55,640
the police obviously
didn't do their homework.
860
00:42:56,508 --> 00:43:00,445
They're not investigating to
the best of their ability,
861
00:43:00,445 --> 00:43:02,013
because there has to be,
862
00:43:06,551 --> 00:43:10,255
there has to be some evidence
indicating somebody else
863
00:43:10,255 --> 00:43:12,023
or something else.
864
00:43:18,496 --> 00:43:20,532
- The case they built up against him,
865
00:43:20,532 --> 00:43:21,666
it was all circumstantial.
866
00:43:21,666 --> 00:43:24,169
They didn't have any actual
evidence that he did this
867
00:43:24,169 --> 00:43:26,071
but I mean he was the only one there.
868
00:43:26,071 --> 00:43:28,473
They really had no one else to go on.
869
00:43:28,473 --> 00:43:30,508
- I don't consider having the blood of
870
00:43:30,508 --> 00:43:33,111
victims all over your
clothes as circumstantial.
871
00:43:33,111 --> 00:43:35,246
I mean that's pretty hard
evidence as far as I'm concerned.
872
00:43:35,246 --> 00:43:36,114
You don't get blood
873
00:43:36,114 --> 00:43:40,285
on your clothes from a
murder victim, you know,
874
00:43:40,285 --> 00:43:41,286
just out of the air.
875
00:43:41,286 --> 00:43:44,823
I mean, you have to be there
conducting those murders
876
00:43:44,823 --> 00:43:46,491
to get that blood on your clothes.
877
00:43:46,491 --> 00:43:49,694
I don't consider that
circumstantial in the least.
878
00:43:53,164 --> 00:43:56,735
and I can't explain
that I can't explain why
879
00:43:56,735 --> 00:43:58,470
there would be blood on my shirt.
880
00:43:59,738 --> 00:44:01,306
would you
agree that it looks bad?
881
00:44:01,306 --> 00:44:02,173
Excuse me?
882
00:44:02,173 --> 00:44:03,041
Would you agree that things
883
00:44:03,041 --> 00:44:05,176
don't look very good for you right now?
884
00:44:05,176 --> 00:44:09,180
I don't, I don't the
way that you're telling me
885
00:44:09,180 --> 00:44:11,149
it doesn't look that good for me but I
886
00:44:11,149 --> 00:44:13,284
can't understand where
this evidence came from.
887
00:44:14,619 --> 00:44:16,588
The evidence
of blood on Jim's shirt
888
00:44:16,588 --> 00:44:19,491
was a strong point for the prosecution.
889
00:44:19,491 --> 00:44:21,026
DNA tests showed
890
00:44:21,026 --> 00:44:23,228
indisputably that it was
the blood of the three
891
00:44:23,228 --> 00:44:25,230
that had gone into the woods with Suerd.
892
00:44:26,798 --> 00:44:30,669
As I look at the images of DNA
patterns and pools of blood,
893
00:44:30,669 --> 00:44:31,503
I wonder though
894
00:44:31,503 --> 00:44:35,473
if perhaps the jury anxious
not to ignore DNA evidence
895
00:44:35,473 --> 00:44:37,475
as it happened in other trials
896
00:44:37,475 --> 00:44:39,110
perhaps looked too closely.
897
00:44:40,278 --> 00:44:41,613
Through the magnifying glass
898
00:44:41,613 --> 00:44:45,650
of the prosecution's microscope,
the evidence was solid.
899
00:44:45,650 --> 00:44:48,787
However a macroscopic view
begged another question.
900
00:44:49,721 --> 00:44:52,290
Could the master of this
orgy of violence have walked
901
00:44:52,290 --> 00:44:54,626
away from his work with
merely the equivalent
902
00:44:54,626 --> 00:44:57,595
of 17 eyedrops of blood on his shirt
903
00:44:57,595 --> 00:44:58,463
and nothing else?
904
00:44:59,597 --> 00:45:02,500
- You know, every piece of
evidence they would get,
905
00:45:02,500 --> 00:45:05,470
they'd try to tie it
somehow, instead of thinking
906
00:45:06,337 --> 00:45:09,207
okay well gee, does this have anything
907
00:45:09,207 --> 00:45:10,208
to do with something else
908
00:45:10,208 --> 00:45:12,444
would always take a
piece of evidence and go,
909
00:45:12,444 --> 00:45:16,081
well gee how could Jim have used this?
910
00:45:16,081 --> 00:45:17,215
And it's kind of like, after a while,
911
00:45:17,215 --> 00:45:20,552
it's like building up a house of cards,
912
00:45:20,552 --> 00:45:22,520
after a while, they just
kept building up building up
913
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:25,990
and eventually they had enough built up
914
00:45:25,990 --> 00:45:28,126
to get a case against him.
915
00:45:29,494 --> 00:45:32,097
I wasn't really
monitoring their conduct outside
916
00:45:32,097 --> 00:45:33,631
of camp.
917
00:45:33,631 --> 00:45:34,799
I was doing my thing.
918
00:45:34,799 --> 00:45:36,167
what were you doing?
919
00:45:36,167 --> 00:45:37,035
I was on the IRC.
920
00:45:37,035 --> 00:45:37,769
In the tent?
921
00:45:37,769 --> 00:45:38,636
Yeah.
922
00:45:38,636 --> 00:45:39,504
All night?
923
00:45:39,504 --> 00:45:40,371
all night
924
00:45:40,371 --> 00:45:42,440
About what
time did you start on IRC?
925
00:45:45,410 --> 00:45:48,279
Probably around 8:30.
926
00:45:49,748 --> 00:45:53,284
- When we interviewed
some of the individuals
927
00:45:53,284 --> 00:45:56,121
that Mr. Suerd claimed
to have been talking
928
00:45:56,121 --> 00:45:59,624
with on IRC that evening,
929
00:45:59,624 --> 00:46:04,562
and we've looked at
their logs as well, too,
930
00:46:05,196 --> 00:46:08,266
their chat logs from their computers,
931
00:46:08,266 --> 00:46:10,635
and we have determined
932
00:46:10,635 --> 00:46:14,272
that there was about a 45 minute gap
933
00:46:14,272 --> 00:46:18,409
between when Mr. Suerd made one comment
934
00:46:18,409 --> 00:46:20,512
to when he made the next comment.
935
00:46:20,512 --> 00:46:24,382
And 45 minutes is an
awfully long time to not
936
00:46:24,382 --> 00:46:27,519
be responding to other
people on the Internet.
937
00:46:27,519 --> 00:46:30,588
- They say the signal dropped out
938
00:46:30,588 --> 00:46:34,392
so you know Jim could have walked away
939
00:46:34,392 --> 00:46:37,061
and I guess that is possible.
940
00:46:37,061 --> 00:46:39,030
- It is possible, yes.
941
00:46:39,030 --> 00:46:40,231
You don't necessarily have
942
00:46:40,231 --> 00:46:43,401
to be a world-class sprint runner,
943
00:46:43,401 --> 00:46:47,372
to cover that amount of
ground in 45 minutes.
944
00:47:21,139 --> 00:47:22,373
- In a way I have to raise doubts
945
00:47:22,373 --> 00:47:26,644
of this one guy doing
all that to these bodies.
946
00:47:26,644 --> 00:47:30,782
- The murdered pair,
947
00:47:32,016 --> 00:47:34,452
they were darlings of the media.
948
00:47:34,452 --> 00:47:38,256
It was one of the reasons they jumped
949
00:47:38,256 --> 00:47:39,724
on this whole thing so quickly
950
00:47:39,724 --> 00:47:42,560
and had to come up with a conclusion
951
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:44,662
of what happened was just that:
952
00:47:44,662 --> 00:47:46,664
it was their very own.
953
00:47:46,664 --> 00:47:50,602
- As professionals in law enforcement,
954
00:47:50,602 --> 00:47:53,071
we do not feel the pressure
from outside sources,
955
00:47:53,071 --> 00:47:57,041
be it the media or otherwise
to conduct our investigations.
956
00:47:57,041 --> 00:48:01,246
We conduct them to the best
of our ability at all times.
957
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:05,984
There were no other suspects
to apprehend or to interview
958
00:48:05,984 --> 00:48:07,452
or to consider.
959
00:48:07,452 --> 00:48:11,723
All the evidence pointed that
Mr. Suerd was the only suspect
960
00:48:11,723 --> 00:48:15,059
and therefore all we had to do was gather
961
00:48:15,059 --> 00:48:18,630
the evidence to prove Mr. Suerd's guilt.
962
00:48:18,630 --> 00:48:23,268
We did not have to gather
evidence to gather other suspects.
963
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:32,076
On January 2nd, 1997,
964
00:48:32,076 --> 00:48:33,745
an event occurred that forced me
965
00:48:33,745 --> 00:48:36,748
to rethink the making of this documentary,
966
00:48:36,748 --> 00:48:40,485
the very thesis with which
I had begun this journey.
967
00:48:40,485 --> 00:48:44,188
Jim Suerd was found dead in his jail cell
968
00:48:44,188 --> 00:48:45,757
of undetermined causes.
969
00:48:48,660 --> 00:48:52,330
On January third, a package
arrived at my door which I think
970
00:48:52,330 --> 00:48:53,298
in no way was
971
00:48:53,298 --> 00:48:55,466
coincidental with the death of Jim Suerd.
972
00:49:09,414 --> 00:49:13,017
The acquiring of mysterious
video tape has changed the mood
973
00:49:13,017 --> 00:49:14,986
behind the making of this documentary.
974
00:49:15,753 --> 00:49:18,289
Gone is the attempt at pure objectivity
975
00:49:18,289 --> 00:49:19,590
with which we started.
976
00:49:19,590 --> 00:49:22,627
Now we question, who gave us this tape?
977
00:49:22,627 --> 00:49:26,731
And more importantly, what, if
any information, does it hold
978
00:49:26,731 --> 00:49:29,133
that was never brought up in the trial?
979
00:49:29,133 --> 00:49:31,135
Going to the authorities
with this new tape
980
00:49:31,135 --> 00:49:33,604
is pondered but rejected.
981
00:49:33,604 --> 00:49:36,507
To them the case is closed
and with Jim's death,
982
00:49:36,507 --> 00:49:39,210
appeals are a moot point.
983
00:49:39,210 --> 00:49:40,712
Nothing is ruled out.
984
00:49:40,712 --> 00:49:42,246
The tape could be a hoax.
985
00:49:43,448 --> 00:49:46,017
I am conscious of one thing though.
986
00:49:46,017 --> 00:49:49,253
My search for the truth behind
the "Fact or Fiction" murders
987
00:49:49,253 --> 00:49:52,223
has in some way become part of the story.
988
00:49:53,224 --> 00:49:56,027
- There was this discussion
on the last tape that
989
00:49:56,728 --> 00:49:59,030
they were going to change tapes.
990
00:49:59,030 --> 00:50:01,666
But whether that ever happened or not,
991
00:50:04,068 --> 00:50:05,236
I don't know.
992
00:50:05,236 --> 00:50:08,306
I didn't see any other tapes
993
00:50:08,306 --> 00:50:11,442
and from what I saw of the camera
994
00:50:11,442 --> 00:50:13,177
it was pretty damaged.
995
00:50:13,177 --> 00:50:14,512
So if there was any tape in there,
996
00:50:14,512 --> 00:50:18,683
I doubt that it ever could be played.
997
00:50:26,157 --> 00:50:28,026
- My name is Michele Monarch.
998
00:50:28,026 --> 00:50:31,596
I'm a magnetic media
data recovery specialist.
999
00:50:31,596 --> 00:50:35,033
The particular videotape that
I was given was mangled almost
1000
00:50:35,033 --> 00:50:36,501
beyond recognition.
1001
00:50:36,501 --> 00:50:41,439
I digitized sections of
this particular video,
1002
00:50:41,439 --> 00:50:43,207
placed it into the computer
1003
00:50:43,207 --> 00:50:47,512
and am now reconstructing the
actual picture frame by frame.
1004
00:50:48,513 --> 00:50:52,250
And I have to guide the computer
to complete these pictures.
1005
00:50:52,250 --> 00:50:55,219
There was some that were easily
captured by the computer.
1006
00:50:55,219 --> 00:50:58,122
Others were unrecognizable,
1007
00:50:58,122 --> 00:51:00,391
and I'm rebuilding them now at this time.
1008
00:51:07,732 --> 00:51:10,268
As the tape is
reassembled by Shelly,
1009
00:51:10,268 --> 00:51:13,438
it becomes apparent that some
sections are rather viewable.
1010
00:51:28,052 --> 00:51:30,488
- And I'll say, yeah I'm here
1011
00:51:30,488 --> 00:51:34,692
while Locus is out hunting
for the Jersey Devil.
1012
00:51:34,692 --> 00:51:36,327
And I'll be like, "ah, shut up"
1013
00:51:37,228 --> 00:51:39,363
Yeah, you can be like, "I don't see him."
1014
00:51:39,363 --> 00:51:41,399
No, no, we better not do that
because, we've got to deliver
1015
00:51:41,399 --> 00:51:42,266
on this show.
1016
00:51:42,266 --> 00:51:43,167
This is the big one here.
1017
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:50,441
Okay are we ready there, Rein?
1018
00:51:50,441 --> 00:51:51,809
- Right now.
- Do you want me
1019
00:51:51,809 --> 00:51:54,178
to still be rolling on this stuff, Steven?
1020
00:51:55,113 --> 00:51:56,681
Do you want to state
that, that whole thing.
1021
00:51:56,681 --> 00:51:59,150
I think I kind of could hear you.
1022
00:51:59,150 --> 00:52:00,518
I've been rolling the camera just messing
1023
00:52:00,518 --> 00:52:02,186
around shooting camp stuff but could you,
1024
00:52:02,186 --> 00:52:03,588
what was the deal with-
1025
00:52:03,588 --> 00:52:05,556
- I don't care if he hears
this or not on camera.
1026
00:52:05,556 --> 00:52:07,458
Don't I mean this is never gonna make it
1027
00:52:07,458 --> 00:52:08,392
anything but the cutting room floor
1028
00:52:08,392 --> 00:52:09,994
as they would say film days.
1029
00:52:11,095 --> 00:52:12,563
From what Sam was saying.
1030
00:52:12,563 --> 00:52:14,665
Sam, boy even he was-
1031
00:52:14,665 --> 00:52:16,234
- All right, there it is.
1032
00:52:16,234 --> 00:52:18,136
- I don't want to be
like a bitch all night.
1033
00:52:21,172 --> 00:52:24,242
I'm going to take a walk out
into the woods and do a scout
1034
00:52:24,242 --> 00:52:26,377
out of the location.
1035
00:52:26,377 --> 00:52:28,045
I also have to go the bathroom.
1036
00:52:33,017 --> 00:52:34,819
Get on the trumpet, do the sound.
1037
00:52:37,255 --> 00:52:39,056
Newark's doing his thing.
1038
00:52:39,056 --> 00:52:41,192
Yeah, I know the airplanes from Newark.
1039
00:52:41,192 --> 00:52:42,360
But each we got
1040
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:44,395
we got a little bit from that
one machine going, but I want
1041
00:52:44,395 --> 00:52:45,530
to see that one reel going
1042
00:52:45,530 --> 00:52:46,697
I wanna see you on that trumpet,
1043
00:52:46,697 --> 00:52:49,534
I want to see you working for
the reason you're out here.
1044
00:52:49,534 --> 00:52:53,704
And Locus, come on, 1R
144 double X awaits you.
1045
00:52:55,206 --> 00:52:56,140
Do some work, man!
1046
00:52:57,275 --> 00:52:59,644
- Sure Steven, anything you say, big guy.
1047
00:52:59,644 --> 00:53:01,712
Comin' right at you.
1048
00:53:01,712 --> 00:53:04,081
- All right, I'm gonna go here.
1049
00:53:04,081 --> 00:53:05,249
I'll be back in about 10 minutes.
1050
00:53:05,249 --> 00:53:06,250
- Okay, man.
- Okay.
1051
00:53:06,250 --> 00:53:08,152
I'll be on that before you get back.
1052
00:53:12,590 --> 00:53:16,194
- Hey, do me a favor and
switch on the machine will you?
1053
00:53:16,194 --> 00:53:17,695
There goes a little tyrant.
1054
00:53:20,698 --> 00:53:22,166
Here, come on I got the camera rolling
1055
00:53:22,166 --> 00:53:24,001
and do a Steven imitation for me.
1056
00:53:40,017 --> 00:53:42,253
Oh no I'm talking about Steven
being a pussy I'm not talking
1057
00:53:42,253 --> 00:53:43,521
about Jim being a pussy.
1058
00:53:44,755 --> 00:53:47,725
Jim's one psycho motherfucker.
1059
00:53:48,593 --> 00:53:52,330
- He's scary, man.
- Let me get that on camera.
1060
00:53:53,831 --> 00:53:55,333
- That thing isn't running, is it?
1061
00:53:55,333 --> 00:53:56,200
Of course it's running.
1062
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:58,135
We're supposed to record everything.
1063
00:53:59,136 --> 00:54:03,407
Give me a Jim, why don't you
do that line that you said
1064
00:54:03,407 --> 00:54:05,376
when you were out in the woods?
1065
00:54:05,376 --> 00:54:07,478
What did you think when Jim pushed you?
1066
00:54:16,354 --> 00:54:18,155
- I was a-
- Louder.
1067
00:54:18,155 --> 00:54:20,424
- I was a little bit, I
don't know, it was weird
1068
00:54:20,424 --> 00:54:22,526
and kind of it freaked me out, man.
1069
00:54:22,526 --> 00:54:24,128
I didn't really expect him to be violent.
1070
00:54:24,128 --> 00:54:25,096
I thought it was like,
1071
00:54:25,096 --> 00:54:26,397
see that's what I don't get, man.
1072
00:54:26,397 --> 00:54:27,531
He's like totally like
1073
00:54:28,532 --> 00:54:30,668
I thought he was like
one of those guys like
1074
00:54:30,668 --> 00:54:34,538
you know those peace, fucking
meditation dudes or something.
1075
00:54:34,538 --> 00:54:37,041
I didn't think he did that.
1076
00:54:37,041 --> 00:54:39,043
Following
these recorded moments,
1077
00:54:39,043 --> 00:54:41,512
a large portion of the tape is smashed.
1078
00:54:41,512 --> 00:54:44,215
It is a section that Shelley
will attempt to restore.
1079
00:54:46,083 --> 00:54:48,653
The next section that
is immediately viewable,
1080
00:54:48,653 --> 00:54:51,689
happens somewhere in
the middle of the tape.
1081
00:54:58,029 --> 00:54:59,297
Steven!
1082
00:54:59,297 --> 00:55:01,165
The first thing
that is apparent is that this
1083
00:55:01,165 --> 00:55:03,601
is tape shot by Locus and Rein.
1084
00:55:03,601 --> 00:55:06,003
Steven is nowhere to be seen.
1085
00:55:06,003 --> 00:55:07,305
They are searching for him.
1086
00:55:08,372 --> 00:55:10,107
On her third day of restoration,
1087
00:55:10,107 --> 00:55:12,743
Shelley makes another discovery.
1088
00:55:12,743 --> 00:55:16,447
The anonymous tape is not
from one, but two cameras.
1089
00:55:16,447 --> 00:55:20,418
Both Rein and Locus took
cameras into the forest.
1090
00:55:20,418 --> 00:55:21,552
- Hold on a second.
1091
00:55:21,552 --> 00:55:23,554
Let me get the light up here.
1092
00:55:23,554 --> 00:55:25,289
This is "Fact or Fiction."
1093
00:55:25,289 --> 00:55:26,357
We can't find Steven.
1094
00:55:26,357 --> 00:55:29,026
Here we are in the Pine Barrens
on a trip that he drug us
1095
00:55:29,026 --> 00:55:29,994
out here for.
1096
00:55:29,994 --> 00:55:33,998
We did a webcast, simulcast,
cast cast cable cast
1097
00:55:33,998 --> 00:55:36,500
that really was pretty poor if you ask me.
1098
00:55:36,500 --> 00:55:38,803
But that doesn't matter at
this point because Steven,
1099
00:55:38,803 --> 00:55:40,638
our main host, is missing.
1100
00:55:40,638 --> 00:55:42,373
Johnny.
1101
00:55:42,373 --> 00:55:44,175
Johnny Love is gone.
1102
00:55:44,175 --> 00:55:46,143
He's gone and we can't find him.
1103
00:55:46,143 --> 00:55:48,412
All I want to do is drink some beer.
1104
00:55:49,513 --> 00:55:50,815
at the camp.
1105
00:55:50,815 --> 00:55:52,516
See this is for you, Steven.
1106
00:55:52,516 --> 00:55:53,818
Even though we don't know where you are,
1107
00:55:53,818 --> 00:55:56,120
we just want you to know
that we're being really loyal
1108
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:58,089
to this whole "shoot everything".
1109
00:55:59,523 --> 00:56:00,624
- Oh, man, come on, now.
1110
00:56:09,066 --> 00:56:10,634
In the sixth day of her work,
1111
00:56:10,634 --> 00:56:14,004
Shelly puts together a
stunning piece of tape.
1112
00:56:14,004 --> 00:56:16,474
It is a moment in time
that proves so much.
1113
00:56:22,246 --> 00:56:24,615
Footprint, I
think it goes off this way.
1114
00:56:28,219 --> 00:56:29,253
Do you see anything over there?
1115
00:56:29,253 --> 00:56:30,121
He's been gone for a while.
1116
00:56:30,121 --> 00:56:31,689
Do you know what time it is?
1117
00:56:31,689 --> 00:56:36,293
It's I think it's late
1118
00:56:36,293 --> 00:56:39,663
it's like, 2:45.
1119
00:56:39,663 --> 00:56:42,199
- 2:45?
- Yeah.
1120
00:56:42,199 --> 00:56:44,668
- Rein and Locus were alive
1121
00:56:44,668 --> 00:56:47,705
and speaking the time to one
another and they were supposed
1122
00:56:47,705 --> 00:56:49,373
to be being killed
1123
00:56:50,307 --> 00:56:53,177
and they're alive and they're
saying the time on the video.
1124
00:56:53,177 --> 00:56:54,812
To me that proves that
1125
00:56:54,812 --> 00:56:57,581
Jim absolutely was not
killing them at that time.
1126
00:56:58,482 --> 00:57:02,420
Jim is an innocent man and
this was not investigated
1127
00:57:02,420 --> 00:57:04,989
in any way shape or form.
1128
00:57:04,989 --> 00:57:06,357
It was overlooked.
1129
00:57:06,357 --> 00:57:08,025
So many details were overlooked.
1130
00:57:09,593 --> 00:57:11,695
Also, if he's an innocent man,
1131
00:57:11,695 --> 00:57:14,165
there's a killer on the loose.
1132
00:57:15,065 --> 00:57:18,702
Shelly's work slowly
gives voices to the dead.
1133
00:57:18,702 --> 00:57:20,404
Ghosts caught on video.
1134
00:57:44,528 --> 00:57:47,998
I don't know,
I feel weird about it.
1135
00:57:47,998 --> 00:57:51,235
I feel weird about it.
1136
00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:58,642
Why is he acting so weird?
1137
00:58:06,617 --> 00:58:08,486
The processing
of the tape is quickly
1138
00:58:08,486 --> 00:58:11,055
becoming more difficult for Shelley.
1139
00:58:11,055 --> 00:58:14,191
Now only bits and pieces tell
the story of what happened
1140
00:58:14,191 --> 00:58:15,059
in the woods.
1141
00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:19,129
On February 5th, Shelley
presents a section
1142
00:58:19,129 --> 00:58:22,366
of videotape that is
nothing short of horrifying.
1143
00:58:23,234 --> 00:58:26,370
It intensifies the question
of who the killer is.
1144
00:58:34,245 --> 00:58:35,145
Oh.
1145
00:59:16,487 --> 00:59:20,024
On February 7th,
Shelley finds what she thinks
1146
00:59:20,024 --> 00:59:23,260
is the same moment in
time from Locus's camera.
1147
00:59:23,260 --> 00:59:25,763
It cannot however be viewed.
1148
00:59:25,763 --> 00:59:28,232
She remains hopeful as
she begins the process
1149
00:59:28,232 --> 00:59:30,467
of trying to reconstruct a lost video.
1150
00:59:31,402 --> 00:59:33,604
- The computer needs me to direct it.
1151
00:59:33,604 --> 00:59:37,074
It doesn't know how to
reconstruct a circle.
1152
00:59:37,074 --> 00:59:39,276
Maybe it would have an opening at the side
1153
00:59:39,276 --> 00:59:42,079
and I have to teach it
to continue the circle.
1154
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:45,349
I'm a guiding factor.
1155
00:59:47,117 --> 00:59:49,353
While Shelley begins
the process of attempting
1156
00:59:49,353 --> 00:59:51,355
to restore video,
1157
00:59:51,355 --> 00:59:52,990
I will attempt to find a truth
1158
00:59:52,990 --> 00:59:55,125
within the film I have already shot.
1159
00:59:57,628 --> 01:00:01,065
- In sitting there waiting for
these video edits to render,
1160
01:00:01,065 --> 01:00:03,200
I did wonder about
1161
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:04,668
certain aspects of the case.
1162
01:00:06,804 --> 01:00:10,074
Sometimes I wonder, am
I doing the right thing?
1163
01:00:11,375 --> 01:00:13,310
Did this guy do it?
1164
01:00:13,310 --> 01:00:15,212
It seemed to me, from all what I saw,
1165
01:00:15,212 --> 01:00:18,549
that you know it was pretty likely
1166
01:00:18,549 --> 01:00:19,416
that he did it.
1167
01:00:19,416 --> 01:00:21,385
I mean you had the blood
evidence and stuff like that,
1168
01:00:21,385 --> 01:00:22,653
but then there was the one guy
1169
01:00:22,653 --> 01:00:25,489
that they never found his body.
1170
01:00:27,191 --> 01:00:28,192
What happened to him?
1171
01:00:28,192 --> 01:00:29,259
I mean, could he have done it?
1172
01:00:29,259 --> 01:00:30,427
I don't know.
1173
01:00:31,295 --> 01:00:32,830
It is an obvious question.
1174
01:00:32,830 --> 01:00:36,667
A question I had presented to
all the people interviewed.
1175
01:00:36,667 --> 01:00:38,769
The tape restoration is showing Locus
1176
01:00:38,769 --> 01:00:41,405
and Rein searching for Steven,
1177
01:00:41,405 --> 01:00:43,607
which only makes the
question more relevant.
1178
01:00:45,142 --> 01:00:46,710
What happened to Steven Avkast?
1179
01:00:48,312 --> 01:00:51,281
By process of elimination, I proceed.
1180
01:00:52,383 --> 01:00:54,418
- We did find some blood
1181
01:00:54,418 --> 01:00:57,354
and of course the infamous Johnny hat
1182
01:00:57,354 --> 01:00:58,589
that was found.
1183
01:01:00,791 --> 01:01:05,529
We were never able to
find any more remains
1184
01:01:05,529 --> 01:01:08,732
of that person so we don't
know if he's dead or alive.
1185
01:01:08,732 --> 01:01:12,169
- They never found Steven's body, Johnny,
1186
01:01:12,169 --> 01:01:13,637
but they found his hat.
1187
01:01:14,605 --> 01:01:17,074
So, I mean, I don't know.
1188
01:01:17,074 --> 01:01:20,477
It's just weird that the
only thing left of him is
1189
01:01:20,477 --> 01:01:21,345
a hat?
1190
01:01:24,648 --> 01:01:28,318
- All right I'll be back
in about 10 minutes.
1191
01:01:28,318 --> 01:01:31,155
Okay man, I'll be
on that before you get back
1192
01:01:33,023 --> 01:01:35,325
- We don't think that Mr. Avkast
1193
01:01:35,325 --> 01:01:39,129
would be able to set up Mr. Suerd
1194
01:01:39,129 --> 01:01:41,298
because the amount of blood that we found
1195
01:01:41,298 --> 01:01:45,469
Of Mr. Avkast is so great that
he would have bled to death
1196
01:01:45,469 --> 01:01:47,671
trying to set Mr. Suerd up.
1197
01:01:47,671 --> 01:01:49,606
There goes the little tyrant.
1198
01:01:54,044 --> 01:01:55,512
Oh whoa, check it out.
1199
01:01:56,780 --> 01:01:58,182
Shine that over there.
1200
01:01:58,182 --> 01:01:59,183
- Oh wow.
- What's that?
1201
01:01:59,183 --> 01:02:00,250
- I don't know, man.
1202
01:02:03,287 --> 01:02:04,154
- Looks like a light.
1203
01:02:07,458 --> 01:02:10,127
Yo, it's Steven's light.
1204
01:02:10,127 --> 01:02:10,994
Steven's light.
1205
01:02:10,994 --> 01:02:12,196
Yo Steve!
1206
01:02:12,196 --> 01:02:13,697
Steven!
1207
01:02:13,697 --> 01:02:16,166
In finding that
Jim's alibi holds up,
1208
01:02:16,166 --> 01:02:19,169
we have to attempt to
answer the question raised:
1209
01:02:19,169 --> 01:02:20,304
who killed these people?
1210
01:02:21,405 --> 01:02:24,041
The likely suspect would
appear to be Steven.
1211
01:02:25,042 --> 01:02:28,245
As I watch these frames
though, I see no recognition
1212
01:02:28,245 --> 01:02:30,214
in Locus's face.
1213
01:02:30,214 --> 01:02:35,185
I see Locus, a man larger than
Steven, turn tail and run.
1214
01:02:35,519 --> 01:02:36,386
As does Rein.
1215
01:02:37,521 --> 01:02:41,125
Steven Avkast, being the culprit
of the horrendous massacre
1216
01:02:41,125 --> 01:02:43,827
that took place in the
minutes that follow this tape
1217
01:02:43,827 --> 01:02:45,362
is impossible to believe.
1218
01:02:46,296 --> 01:02:47,598
Along with the amount of blood
1219
01:02:47,598 --> 01:02:49,800
that belongs to Steven Avkast,
1220
01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:52,402
this makes me believe
that he also was murdered
1221
01:02:52,402 --> 01:02:53,570
in the Pine Barrens.
1222
01:02:54,471 --> 01:02:56,707
I am now also of the belief
1223
01:02:56,707 --> 01:02:59,576
that the killer was somehow
something more horrendous
1224
01:02:59,576 --> 01:03:01,645
than possible to imagine.
1225
01:03:08,018 --> 01:03:11,088
What could have killed three healthy men?
1226
01:03:11,088 --> 01:03:12,990
What would have left no footprints?
1227
01:03:13,791 --> 01:03:17,261
What would have torn
the men into 47 pieces,
1228
01:03:17,261 --> 01:03:19,663
leaving no evidence of a struggle?
1229
01:03:19,663 --> 01:03:23,000
We could tell by what
was a left in the infliction
1230
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:24,134
of the wound that it was
1231
01:03:24,134 --> 01:03:27,204
a serrated type weapon, that much we know.
1232
01:03:27,204 --> 01:03:30,207
- There were no knife fragments or
1233
01:03:30,207 --> 01:03:34,278
any evidence of the actual weapon used
1234
01:03:34,278 --> 01:03:36,180
other than the cuts themselves.
1235
01:03:43,687 --> 01:03:46,290
- Well we're a rural
County, we have people
1236
01:03:46,290 --> 01:03:48,625
who are not greatly educated.
1237
01:03:48,625 --> 01:03:51,428
Rumors and folklore are common.
1238
01:03:51,428 --> 01:03:53,764
I put no credence in
anything of that nature.
1239
01:03:53,764 --> 01:03:55,499
I just go by the facts that the police
1240
01:03:55,499 --> 01:03:57,401
are able to ascertain.
1241
01:03:57,401 --> 01:03:59,036
- A monster?
1242
01:03:59,036 --> 01:04:01,004
Yeah, I think this person's a monster.
1243
01:04:01,004 --> 01:04:02,039
I don't believe
1244
01:04:04,408 --> 01:04:06,243
fact or fiction.
1245
01:04:06,243 --> 01:04:08,378
I don't believe the fiction.
1246
01:04:08,378 --> 01:04:11,415
I think this is a person and
I'm gonna find out who it is.
1247
01:04:11,415 --> 01:04:13,750
I'm gonna reconstruct and do my job
1248
01:04:14,685 --> 01:04:19,022
to recover what has been lost, the facts.
1249
01:04:19,790 --> 01:04:21,625
It is as though the Jersey Devil
1250
01:04:21,625 --> 01:04:24,528
is a monster reborn in a digital age.
1251
01:04:24,528 --> 01:04:26,496
Reborn on the Internet.
1252
01:04:26,496 --> 01:04:30,467
A demon captured on IRC
logs, mangled video,
1253
01:04:30,467 --> 01:04:31,635
whispers in the dark.
1254
01:04:32,669 --> 01:04:34,671
It is to these that I look.
1255
01:04:34,671 --> 01:04:37,441
- It's totally anonymous I
mean you can't trace a call.
1256
01:04:37,441 --> 01:04:39,743
You don't know if it's
man, woman, old, young.
1257
01:04:41,778 --> 01:04:44,715
You don't know anything you
don't know where it's from.
1258
01:04:44,715 --> 01:04:47,184
I mean in one way I don't know
1259
01:04:47,184 --> 01:04:49,786
why the cops didn't try
to do anything you know
1260
01:04:49,786 --> 01:04:52,155
and try to figure out
well who made that idea?
1261
01:04:52,155 --> 01:04:53,690
Who came up with that suggestion?
1262
01:04:54,558 --> 01:04:56,660
Why don't you do a show
1263
01:04:56,660 --> 01:04:58,595
about the Jersey Devil?
1264
01:05:00,631 --> 01:05:01,999
- We have this show "Fact or Fiction".
1265
01:05:01,999 --> 01:05:04,034
It's a paranormal variety show.
1266
01:05:04,034 --> 01:05:05,202
You know we have guests come on,
1267
01:05:05,202 --> 01:05:06,069
that kind of thing.
1268
01:05:06,069 --> 01:05:09,239
Well, things have kind
of been a little slow
1269
01:05:09,239 --> 01:05:11,575
over at the station so we
thought what we would do
1270
01:05:11,575 --> 01:05:14,411
is we'd we'd make a little excursion
1271
01:05:14,411 --> 01:05:18,282
there was a suggestion, via IRC,
1272
01:05:22,552 --> 01:05:26,456
A suggestion via IRC to-
1273
01:05:27,457 --> 01:05:29,559
- And also to the mail bag.
1274
01:05:29,559 --> 01:05:30,627
- Yeah.
1275
01:05:30,627 --> 01:05:31,495
- That guy, D something.
1276
01:05:31,495 --> 01:05:32,462
Whatever his name was.
1277
01:05:32,462 --> 01:05:36,099
- One thing about IRC
that's really hard is that,
1278
01:05:36,099 --> 01:05:39,536
it really is hard to trace it
because, I mean, it's not like
1279
01:05:39,536 --> 01:05:42,406
you know the phone number
they're calling from.
1280
01:05:42,406 --> 01:05:45,375
I mean this could have been like Shanghai
1281
01:05:45,375 --> 01:05:48,478
where they were writing this message from.
1282
01:05:48,478 --> 01:05:49,546
You just don't know.
1283
01:05:49,546 --> 01:05:52,649
That's part of the beauty
and part of the evil of it.
1284
01:06:02,192 --> 01:06:05,529
it is amazing
to be so near yet so far
1285
01:06:05,529 --> 01:06:08,598
from the possibility of
knowing who the killer is.
1286
01:06:08,598 --> 01:06:10,233
D something.
1287
01:06:11,268 --> 01:06:12,436
- We thought what we would do
1288
01:06:12,436 --> 01:06:15,238
is we'd we'd make a little excursion.
1289
01:06:15,238 --> 01:06:19,643
There was a suggestion, via IRC, to-
1290
01:06:21,178 --> 01:06:22,479
- And also from that mail bag.
1291
01:06:22,479 --> 01:06:23,347
- Yeah.
1292
01:06:23,347 --> 01:06:26,016
- That guy D something,
whatever his name was.
1293
01:06:26,016 --> 01:06:29,319
- It's just not practical
to keep logs to that stuff.
1294
01:06:29,319 --> 01:06:32,122
I get so much email, so much,
1295
01:06:32,122 --> 01:06:34,157
it would just clog up my system.
1296
01:06:35,092 --> 01:06:36,493
I erased it as we went along.
1297
01:06:36,493 --> 01:06:38,028
I mean, once a job
1298
01:06:38,028 --> 01:06:40,998
once a point got finished I
killed the email, got rid of it.
1299
01:06:40,998 --> 01:06:42,432
It was it was like a to-do list.
1300
01:06:42,432 --> 01:06:45,002
I check it off, I get rid of this stuff.
1301
01:06:45,002 --> 01:06:46,603
So, once things weren't pertinent anymore,
1302
01:06:46,603 --> 01:06:48,005
I just get rid of them.
1303
01:06:48,005 --> 01:06:50,140
So I don't have anything of it really.
1304
01:06:50,140 --> 01:06:53,777
I mean there there were like
a couple of emails that we had
1305
01:06:53,777 --> 01:06:55,012
at the very end there
1306
01:06:55,012 --> 01:06:57,581
But there's nothing illuminating there.
1307
01:07:24,207 --> 01:07:25,742
- It gets harder and harder
1308
01:07:28,011 --> 01:07:28,712
to
1309
01:07:30,414 --> 01:07:33,617
stick with your original gut feeling.
1310
01:07:40,424 --> 01:07:43,794
Because of the media, you know.
1311
01:07:43,794 --> 01:07:46,563
The attention that the
whole case is getting,
1312
01:07:46,563 --> 01:07:50,267
how one-sided, lopsided
the whole thing is.
1313
01:07:50,267 --> 01:07:52,335
And you start to think,
1314
01:07:52,335 --> 01:07:54,805
maybe, maybe he did do it.
1315
01:07:54,805 --> 01:07:59,810
Maybe there's a side of
Jim that I don't know that,
1316
01:08:01,411 --> 01:08:04,181
that was capable of such an atrocity.
1317
01:08:04,181 --> 01:08:06,316
As this journey nears its end,
1318
01:08:06,316 --> 01:08:08,618
I begin to fully understand the essence
1319
01:08:08,618 --> 01:08:10,487
of what this is about.
1320
01:08:10,487 --> 01:08:14,124
The media upon which these
events were recorded.
1321
01:08:14,124 --> 01:08:16,326
The media that should have
been able to provide a truth
1322
01:08:16,326 --> 01:08:20,363
more pure than ever before,
has somehow become the story.
1323
01:08:21,298 --> 01:08:23,600
This has become more than
a search for the truth
1324
01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:26,103
behind the "Fact or Fiction" murders.
1325
01:08:26,103 --> 01:08:28,171
It has become an indictment of truth
1326
01:08:28,171 --> 01:08:31,141
and how it is viewed through
the lens of the media.
1327
01:08:31,141 --> 01:08:32,442
Pretty exciting moment here
1328
01:08:32,442 --> 01:08:35,345
because the fact or
fiction logo is on screen
1329
01:08:36,580 --> 01:08:38,048
which means one thing.
1330
01:08:38,048 --> 01:08:43,053
That we are now actually getting our
1331
01:08:43,086 --> 01:08:48,091
feed live to the cable company-
1332
01:08:48,091 --> 01:08:51,094
- Reality television, the news,
1333
01:08:51,094 --> 01:08:54,264
the 60-second clip of truth,
have made even the strongest
1334
01:08:54,264 --> 01:08:55,165
of doubters wonder.
1335
01:08:55,165 --> 01:08:57,501
Are you a psychic or a psycho?
1336
01:08:59,469 --> 01:09:04,407
- Look man I'll see you back at camp, man.
1337
01:09:06,743 --> 01:09:08,211
Man, why you gotta be so-
1338
01:09:08,211 --> 01:09:09,446
- What did you say to him?
1339
01:09:11,248 --> 01:09:12,382
Wait what do you mean he's gonna
1340
01:09:12,382 --> 01:09:14,017
be where we were at camp?
1341
01:09:14,017 --> 01:09:14,718
Where the hell is the camp?
1342
01:09:14,718 --> 01:09:16,987
This is the whole fucking thing,
where the hell is the camp?
1343
01:09:16,987 --> 01:09:18,255
- We can't lose him.
- Well, we're losing him.
1344
01:09:18,255 --> 01:09:19,456
Go find him, man.
1345
01:09:19,456 --> 01:09:22,058
I'm not gonna go anywhere near him,
1346
01:09:22,058 --> 01:09:23,360
what a fucking asshole, man.
1347
01:09:25,729 --> 01:09:28,398
- Just cut the damn camera already.
1348
01:09:28,398 --> 01:09:30,000
- What is the truth?
1349
01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:34,437
The editing process, it's
like sifting that stuff out
1350
01:09:34,437 --> 01:09:39,209
ultimately, I mean not necessarily
with these legal videos,
1351
01:09:39,209 --> 01:09:42,045
but with a
1352
01:09:42,045 --> 01:09:44,414
documentary film, I mean ultimately it's
1353
01:09:44,414 --> 01:09:47,551
what the filmmaker perceives as the truth.
1354
01:09:47,551 --> 01:09:50,187
I mean, don't you think,
that's what you're trying
1355
01:09:50,187 --> 01:09:51,054
to do, right?
1356
01:09:52,355 --> 01:09:54,391
The mistakes that
were discovered on this journey
1357
01:09:54,391 --> 01:09:55,559
were stunning.
1358
01:09:55,559 --> 01:09:58,028
Shoddy police work and a judgmental video
1359
01:09:58,028 --> 01:10:00,030
presented the world with a person guilty
1360
01:10:00,030 --> 01:10:01,464
before ever being tried.
1361
01:10:02,532 --> 01:10:04,601
I know Jim is not guilty.
1362
01:10:04,601 --> 01:10:07,037
I know that the truth is still at large,
1363
01:10:07,037 --> 01:10:10,273
potentially closer than
anyone can realize.
1364
01:10:10,273 --> 01:10:13,076
It is as though the real
killer planned a media event
1365
01:10:13,076 --> 01:10:14,811
so amazingly cunning
1366
01:10:14,811 --> 01:10:17,314
that it could be thought of as scripted.
1367
01:10:17,314 --> 01:10:20,217
A kill ready for primetime, so to speak.
1368
01:10:21,218 --> 01:10:23,320
Perhaps the demon we call the Jersey Devil
1369
01:10:23,320 --> 01:10:25,622
did kill them in the Pine Barrens.
1370
01:10:25,622 --> 01:10:29,626
But if so, the Jersey Devil
is the electronic image,
1371
01:10:29,626 --> 01:10:30,794
the sound,
1372
01:10:30,794 --> 01:10:33,163
The communication to the masses,
1373
01:10:33,163 --> 01:10:36,299
Somehow twisted into a
surrealist electronic world.
1374
01:10:37,734 --> 01:10:42,505
I always asked the question
last: Do you think Jim did it?
1375
01:10:42,505 --> 01:10:45,141
And with the exception of
authorities directly accountable
1376
01:10:45,141 --> 01:10:46,376
to the answer,
1377
01:10:46,376 --> 01:10:48,712
I have felt that the
answer given has been,
1378
01:10:48,712 --> 01:10:50,480
it doesn't matter.
1379
01:10:50,480 --> 01:10:53,583
The truth is what time
has made of this event.
1380
01:10:53,583 --> 01:10:56,086
It has been good for business.
1381
01:10:56,086 --> 01:10:57,220
Often murder is.
1382
01:10:58,121 --> 01:11:00,624
So many involved
benefited from this event.
1383
01:11:00,624 --> 01:11:03,593
The inevitable book deal is
being replaced with a career
1384
01:11:03,593 --> 01:11:05,629
in the business of image control.
1385
01:11:05,629 --> 01:11:08,665
And most of the people interviewed
are ready to embrace it.
1386
01:11:08,665 --> 01:11:13,603
- I guess a grim irony here,
as these post-its can attest,
1387
01:11:15,572 --> 01:11:19,409
the fact that when we have
some real dead bodies,
1388
01:11:19,409 --> 01:11:21,544
then the sharks start circling.
1389
01:11:24,547 --> 01:11:29,552
Strange that an incident
like that would be a prelude
1390
01:11:29,819 --> 01:11:34,224
to a new phase in my career.
1391
01:11:35,392 --> 01:11:38,361
- It's interesting, after
the court case was over
1392
01:11:38,361 --> 01:11:41,064
with all the publicity and
everything surrounding it,
1393
01:11:41,064 --> 01:11:42,832
you know, I started getting phone calls
1394
01:11:42,832 --> 01:11:44,267
for a couple job leads.
1395
01:11:44,267 --> 01:11:47,103
I mean, you know, so in one way,
1396
01:11:47,103 --> 01:11:49,105
this might have helped me out of here.
1397
01:11:49,105 --> 01:11:51,741
How long will it take
to process the entire tape?
1398
01:11:51,741 --> 01:11:54,511
- It's not my intention
to process the whole tape.
1399
01:11:54,511 --> 01:11:55,679
I don't need to do that.
1400
01:11:56,646 --> 01:11:59,349
It could take hours, it could take days.
1401
01:11:59,349 --> 01:12:01,751
I need to process a
particular piece of tape
1402
01:12:01,751 --> 01:12:04,688
that could potentially reveal a killer.
1403
01:12:06,089 --> 01:12:08,558
- Shelley continues to
extrapolate information
1404
01:12:08,558 --> 01:12:09,759
from a frame
1405
01:12:09,759 --> 01:12:14,431
while I will reenact the
events of December 15, 1995.
1406
01:12:18,134 --> 01:12:20,537
This is one of the stops
that the guys made on the way
1407
01:12:20,537 --> 01:12:22,205
to the pine barrens.
1408
01:12:22,205 --> 01:12:23,073
I know this because
1409
01:12:23,073 --> 01:12:25,075
of the extensive documentary
footage that they'd
1410
01:12:25,075 --> 01:12:27,077
taken taken of this place.
1411
01:12:27,077 --> 01:12:29,045
I don't know what good this will do.
1412
01:12:29,045 --> 01:12:32,182
I think it's just to keep
myself clear on what happened.
1413
01:12:32,182 --> 01:12:34,050
You know the order of events.
1414
01:12:34,050 --> 01:12:36,353
Strangely the weather is
almost identical to the way
1415
01:12:36,353 --> 01:12:37,187
it was that day.
1416
01:13:09,119 --> 01:13:10,520
I'm now traveling an access route
1417
01:13:10,520 --> 01:13:12,555
that I know Steven and Locus had taken
1418
01:13:12,555 --> 01:13:14,257
for the Jersey Devil Project.
1419
01:13:15,291 --> 01:13:17,994
We're in the midst of the
Pine Barrens at this point.
1420
01:13:19,295 --> 01:13:22,232
And what I'm hoping to do is
see if I can't do a recreation
1421
01:13:22,232 --> 01:13:23,099
of the campsite,
1422
01:13:23,099 --> 01:13:24,267
perhaps the murder scene.
1423
01:13:25,568 --> 01:13:29,172
Hopefully traversing this
won't be too big of a problem.
1424
01:13:29,172 --> 01:13:32,075
I'm using this video camera
just as a matter of convenience.
1425
01:13:32,075 --> 01:13:33,510
Using film out here would prove
1426
01:13:33,510 --> 01:13:37,080
to be logistically too difficult.
1427
01:13:38,815 --> 01:13:41,384
Hopefully we can get you some good footage
1428
01:13:41,384 --> 01:13:43,186
and really try demonstrate
1429
01:13:46,022 --> 01:13:49,325
the intrepid nature of Steven and Locus.
1430
01:14:17,587 --> 01:14:22,592
- I feel with some more work
that I will find the killer.
1431
01:14:23,359 --> 01:14:25,595
I will see the face of the killer.
1432
01:15:06,503 --> 01:15:08,404
- This site is a very close approximation
1433
01:15:08,404 --> 01:15:11,207
of the one used by Steven and Locus on
1434
01:15:11,207 --> 01:15:13,343
the night of the Jersey Devil episode.
1435
01:15:13,343 --> 01:15:15,778
They'd chosen a clearing
similar to this one as base camp
1436
01:15:15,778 --> 01:15:17,013
for the telecast.
1437
01:15:19,015 --> 01:15:22,085
When they ventured onto the
Pine Barrens with their cameras,
1438
01:15:22,085 --> 01:15:23,753
they would never return alive again.
1439
01:15:24,654 --> 01:15:26,456
The documentary footage
that they generated
1440
01:15:26,456 --> 01:15:28,525
on that evening proves irrevocably,
1441
01:15:28,525 --> 01:15:31,728
that Jim Suerd was not
responsible for their murders.
1442
01:15:31,728 --> 01:15:34,130
That Locus and Rein
Clackin were actually alive
1443
01:15:34,130 --> 01:15:36,332
at the time they were ostensibly killed.
1444
01:15:36,332 --> 01:15:38,501
And that the police
case was shoddy at best.
1445
01:15:39,702 --> 01:15:41,137
What is the Jersey Devil?
1446
01:15:42,305 --> 01:15:44,107
It's a man wandering into
the Pine Barrens never
1447
01:15:44,107 --> 01:15:45,475
to be seen again.
1448
01:15:45,475 --> 01:15:49,212
It's a mangled animal found
on one of these access roads.
1449
01:15:49,212 --> 01:15:51,347
Or perhaps it's something
that rests within our psyche
1450
01:15:51,347 --> 01:15:53,249
and we'll never truly understand.
1451
01:15:54,317 --> 01:15:56,386
I've been on this project for
months now and haven't come
1452
01:15:56,386 --> 01:15:57,387
to a clear definition
1453
01:15:57,387 --> 01:16:00,356
of what actually happened
or who was responsible.
1454
01:16:00,356 --> 01:16:01,658
All I know is that it's a mystery
1455
01:16:01,658 --> 01:16:03,359
and it may permanently remain so.
1456
01:16:09,566 --> 01:16:10,967
What is the Jersey Devil?
1457
01:16:42,231 --> 01:16:44,133
I'm now outside of Shelley's studio.
1458
01:16:45,668 --> 01:16:46,669
All the media.
1459
01:16:48,271 --> 01:16:49,372
All the interviews.
1460
01:16:51,174 --> 01:16:53,710
The truth comes down to this one frame.
1461
01:19:06,242 --> 01:19:08,611
I've determined that this
is no time to be distracted
1462
01:19:08,611 --> 01:19:09,946
or set aside in the course
1463
01:19:09,946 --> 01:19:13,216
of the events that I've set into motion.
1464
01:19:13,216 --> 01:19:15,184
My next step will be
going to the Pine Barrens
1465
01:19:15,184 --> 01:19:17,954
for a reenactment of the
murders of Steven Avkast,
1466
01:19:17,954 --> 01:19:21,324
Locus Wheeler and Rein Clackin.
1467
01:19:21,324 --> 01:19:24,193
I'm as strong in my resolve
as before in proving
1468
01:19:24,193 --> 01:19:25,061
that Jim Suerd
1469
01:19:25,061 --> 01:19:26,496
was not responsible for these murders.
1470
01:19:26,496 --> 01:19:28,164
That he had neither the intellect
1471
01:19:28,164 --> 01:19:31,234
nor the logical capacity
to carry them through.
1472
01:19:31,234 --> 01:19:32,368
I think that the replayment
1473
01:19:32,368 --> 01:19:33,603
of our events here
1474
01:19:33,603 --> 01:19:36,572
will be quite compelling
in the demonstration of
1475
01:19:36,572 --> 01:19:38,141
Suerd's innocence.
1476
01:21:49,205 --> 01:21:51,274
This site is a close
approximation of the one chosen
1477
01:21:51,274 --> 01:21:53,109
by Steven Locus as the
1478
01:21:53,109 --> 01:21:56,245
site of their "Fact or Fiction"
Jersey Devil broadcast.
1479
01:21:56,245 --> 01:21:57,346
They'd-
1480
01:22:00,316 --> 01:22:02,351
This site is a close
approximation of the one chosen
1481
01:22:02,351 --> 01:22:04,086
by Steven and Locus as the site
1482
01:22:04,086 --> 01:22:07,023
of their "Fact or Fiction"
Jersey Devil Broadcast.
1483
01:22:07,023 --> 01:22:10,259
They'd chosen a clearing similar
to this one, as base camp
1484
01:22:10,259 --> 01:22:14,530
and ventured into the pine
barrens with their cameras.
1485
01:22:14,530 --> 01:22:16,198
This site is a close approximation
1486
01:22:16,198 --> 01:22:17,733
of the one chosen by Steven
1487
01:22:17,733 --> 01:22:19,635
and Locus as the site of
their "Fact or Fiction"
1488
01:22:19,635 --> 01:22:22,004
Jersey Devil Broadcast,
1489
01:22:22,004 --> 01:22:23,506
They'd chosen a clearing similar
1490
01:22:23,506 --> 01:22:25,007
to this one as a base camp.
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