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MAN: Let's go!
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NARRATOR: Our newlyweds
went on the annual couples' retreat.
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It was just perfect
to just have a little reset.
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(WOMAN YELPS)
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And the mini coastal getaway...
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AWHINA: It's been good having
that chance to connect again.
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..proved to be the remedy
some desperately needed.
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We're back to our old selves,
where we're having fun together.
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JAMIE: The thing is, like,
you are so lucky.
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But when Jamie put Lauren and Clint's
marriage under the microscope...
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In real life, I would not come
to you for relationship advice.
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..Lauren did not hold back...
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You're a bunch of wild animals.
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You actually ambushed me
last night.
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No, no, no, don't even go there.
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..and left Jamie feeling betrayed
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by the lack of support
from friends Rhi and Carina.
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RHI: I'm a Switzerland.
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I want everyone
to come together.
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Then stand up for me too, Carina!
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I'm so sick of being the bad guy
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because I speak up,
but where is my defence?
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And then...
(TINKLES GLASS)
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(TINKLES GLASS)
Dinner is served.
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..a MAFS world first saw
two dinner parties on the same night.
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What do you reckon's going on
over there?
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How are you going to defend Lauren?
You were my friend!
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I am your friend!
There's no apology.
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While Rhi made amends with Jamie...
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I am sorry in that moment
I didn't stand up for you.
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Bingo. Thank you.
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..a defiant Carina felt
the full force of Jamie's tirade.
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Don't you call me 'amiga'...
You're attacking me!
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Stop. Stop.
No, don't tell me to stop!
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Carina, shut your mouth.
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MEL AND ALESSANDRA: Oooh!
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NARRATOR: Tonight...
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ALESSANDRA: You're smiling, Adrian.
That doesn't always happen.
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..Awhina and Adrian's
extraordinary turnaround.
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I'm happy, you know.
We're at a great place right now.
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We're also talking about
our next moments together.
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Love is on full display
at the commitment ceremony.
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Can you see yourself falling in love
with Rhi?
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Yeah.
And how does that feel?
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It feels very good.
It feels very good.
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CARINA: It was like
a mean girls 2.0 environment.
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A friendship in tatters...
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JAMIE: You keep on doubling down
and insulting me.
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..with neither Jamie nor Carina
backing down.
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I defended you and your husband...
When? When?
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Can the experts mend deep wounds?
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You're embarrassing.
Please, just stop talking to me.
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You talk as though
you're above them.
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Lauren held to account.
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You've thrown some words around
tonight - 'psycho', 'animals',
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"I don't associate with this type."
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The experts deliver some hard truths.
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I think you're giving yourself
a little bit too much credit here,
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personality-wise.
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Oh, dang.
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That's the problem, though.
That's your problem.
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NARRATOR: It's the morning
of the fifth commitment ceremony
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of the experiment.
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Our couples are still feeling
the impact
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of last night's dinner party.
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TEEJAY: Last night
got pretty hectic, didn't it?
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BETH: Mm-hm. It did.
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It really did.
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I didn't expect Jamie and Carina
to now be on different sides either.
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I did.
That didn't get resolved at all.
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AWHINA: Lauren walked off calling us
a bunch of losers. Like...
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Like, Jamie was just expressing
how she felt
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and they couldn't see
her perspective,
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so it just went round
and roundabouts.
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And I'm still confused as to why
we're all arguing over a couple
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who just don't care enough
to even show up.
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This morning, Jamie has woken up
feeling the hangover
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of her intense fight with Carina
at the dinner party.
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DAVE: Oh!
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Oh...
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That's such an unpleasant way
to start the day.
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Carina is certainly not my friend,
that is for damn sure.
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If that is her being a friend,
well, she's no friend of mine.
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No, she's not...
She's not my cup of tea.
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You would say the rest of the group
were mean girls.
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Asking questions
and we're mean girls.
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And we're mean girls...
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Because if I was in that situation,
I would feel the same way!
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Exactly how I am now!
I'm being defensive of myself!
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You're feeding into this narrative
and you are validating delusion!
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I don't validate what she said,
Jamie!
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I can't fight with someone
who has no logic!
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You keep saying things
that validate her behaviour.
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DAVE: Mmm.
Don't call me a mean girl.
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Like, you want to start the night
with mean girl,
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I'm gonna be
the biggest (BLEEP) bitch here.
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(SIGHS)
That conversation was painful.
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Talking to her was painful.
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Sitting in that chair facing her
was painful.
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Hearing the words
come out of her mouth, painful.
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Don't... Don't put your hands
in the lion cage, babe.
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Don't do it.
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Doubling down
and calling me a mean girl.
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Like, you know what I mean?
I'm, like...
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Oh...
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Why would I want to be friends
with that?
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I definitely got my words out.
You got your apology from Rhi.
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Yeah, well, that's...
That's what I wanted.
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I'm really sorry I hurt you in
that moment when I didn't stand up.
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Bingo. Thank you.
That's all I needed.
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I came in hoping
that you would come like this.
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You're not meeting me
with this stupidity.
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That's why I put you
in very different categories.
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She was genuine, she was remorseful,
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she was, like, empathetic
to my feelings, she validated me.
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I was really hoping to
resolve things with Rhi.
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She is someone, like,
I'm quite close with,
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and so that would've been
really hard
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if her and I, like,
couldn't resolve this.
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I wanted clarity on where I stand
with everyone else.
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Yeah.
And the clarity I did get.
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I know exactly where I stand
with Carina.
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I literally dropped enough F-bombs
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to fill up quite a few swear jars.
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Am I proud of my behaviour? No.
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I feel like Ryan now has to give
the title of 'classless' to my mouth
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because it was brutal.
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I've been the person
to have good relationships
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with pretty much everyone.
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Like, people do mean
something to me
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and friends do mean something to me.
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But, like, if you actually do manage
to hurt me,
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I am gonna be, like,
nothing short of ruthless.
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The absence of Lauren and Clint
was remarkable for many reasons.
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One, I didn't have to look
at her face for a second longer
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or break bread with this bitch.
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Two, it was, like, case in point.
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Where is your mate?
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After her confrontation with Jamie
at last night's dinner party,
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Carina is feeling let down by
how their disagreement unfolded.
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CARINA: Yeah, I'm quite disappointed
how the outcome was last night.
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Feeling deflated, yeah.
Just a bit hurt.
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I obviously cried
and I'm so confused about everything
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and how it got
so blown out of proportion.
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PAUL: Yeah.
It just was so unnecessary.
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Yeah.
It was not needed at all.
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Didn't realise last night
was going to pan out the way it did.
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Jamie just attacked me
so quickly, before I could even...
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Yeah.
..give myself a piece of bread.
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But why do you have to say
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those types of quick,
like, narky comments?
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Mmm.
That's what I don't like about...
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Yeah.
..Jamie's presence and aura.
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She just says such narky comments
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and, like, how she was instantly
shutting me down.
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Just what comes out of her mouth,
I'm just, like...
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Right now, I feel Jamie
doesn't want to be a friend of mine
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and maybe the same goes for me.
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I do not agree with what Lauren said
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but how Jamie has gone about
this whole situation,
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it was probably the most hurtful.
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I have my own voice.
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I found it hard to stand up
for myself,
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so, yeah, I'm nervous
about facing Jamie tonight.
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Feeling so isolated
and just attacked, to say the least.
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NARRATOR: As our couples prepare
for the evening ahead...
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there is one question
on everyone's lips.
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Lauren and Clint,
what do you reckon?
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Do you reckon they'll rock up?
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It'll be interesting to see
if Lauren and Clint come.
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I don't know.
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We'll find out tonight, though,
won't we, love?
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Yeah.
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Lauren and Clint
are gonna get roasted.
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(LAUGHS)
I know.
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DAVE: I don't know if Clint
and Lauren are gonna rock up.
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(SIGHS) Will Lauren and Clint
show up tonight?
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I don't want to have to look at her.
Like, I really, really don't.
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I just want to hear the experts'
perspective on her behaviour.
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That's my Christmas present
for today.
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I'm really hoping the experts
can go,
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"Yeah, like, Lauren,
your behaviour's shit. You're shit.
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"Stop being a bitch. You're rude.
Get out of here."
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And I'd be, like, "Yes."
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I just want the experts
to let her have it.
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That would be really, like,
orgasmic.
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It's, like, my version
of, like, auditory porn.
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(DRAMATIC MUSIC)
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JEFF: Hello.
ALESSANDRA: Hi.
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JOHN: Greetings, gentlemen.
MEL: Hello, gents.
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MAN: Good evening, guys.
MAN: Evening.
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DAVE: How you going?
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(DRAMATIC MUSIC CONTINUES)
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JOHN: Ah. Welcome, ladies.
MEL: Hello, ladies.
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Hello. Come and take a seat.
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(PAUL LAUGHS)
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(TENSE MUSIC)
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Still in Byron.
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(DRAMATIC MUSIC)
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Hey.
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Yes! You made it, guys! Well done.
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I thought tonight was gonna be
boring without you guys.
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So, glad you're coming.
CLINT: Did you miss us?
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RYAN: Not really. Terrible.
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Where were you last night, guys?
Just didn't want to come?
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We actually had a nice dinner
without you, so...
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Nice.
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Didn't want to be a part
of this experiment anymore?
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Why are you here now?
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JAMIE: They can't learn anything
from this experiment, apparently.
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The experts can't teach them
anything, so why bother?
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It's actually got nothing to do with
the experts. It's more about you.
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No, that's what you said, though.
ADRIAN: With us?
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(JAMIE LAUGHS)
ADRIAN: What's wrong with us?
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We should've bought some little zoo
feeding pellets to keep them quiet.
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JOHN: Hold on, guys. OK.
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Welcome.
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It has been clearly a huge week
for all of you.
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You had the couples' retreat
and last night was the dinner party
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which left us, frankly, speechless.
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We clearly have a lot to unpack
tonight.
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And with that being said,
our first couple up on the couch...
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(TENSE MUSIC)
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..and thank you for joining us,
Lauren and Clint.
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LAUREN: Hello.
CLINT: Hey.
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Evening.
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Alright.
Well, let's cut straight to it.
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Last night, what happened?
Where were you?
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We had a dinner party
in our apartment.
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A cocktail party and a dinner party.
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A party of two.
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BETH: Just the both of you?
ADRIAN: Where was the invite?
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Didn't you get it?
No, must've missed it.
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I'm sure you don't get invited
to a lot of parties, Adrian.
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This is a huge reason
why we don't enjoy this environment,
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because of the peanut gallery.
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The chips and the cheap comments.
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So, explain
what was behind your decision
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not to come to
the group dinner party.
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I can... Do you want me to go?
Yeah.
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Yeah, I... For me, it's about
a lot of the standards and values
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that I know I live too and we share.
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We align on those sort of values
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and what we've experienced
in the social environments,
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dinner parties, couples' retreat
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aren't the values that I know
I don't stand for and live for.
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We just find it
an absolute embarrassment,
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so we just chose not to turn up
last night and endure that again.
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So, Lauren,
what happened on the retreat?
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Basically, I just got attacked
by Awhina, Jamie and Beth
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at girls' night.
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Tell me some of the things
that were said to you.
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They are asking me things
about Clint,
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like, you know, what I did
and didn't like about Clint
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and it upset me
because there's, like...
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Clint is literally the nicest person
probably on this entire planet
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and for me to have to bring up
things and talk about things
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that, you know, might be hurtful
or upsetting
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or, you know, just something
that's not positive
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didn't make me feel good
to talk about those things
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and so that's when I started to cry.
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Like, I do feel shut down
a lot of the time...
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in a group dynamic,
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especially when that lady
keeps flapping her mouth constantly.
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So, being rude to us...
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Shut up, Jamie, for god's sake.
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Oh...
Shut the (BLEEP) up for once.
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By the time we got back...
JEFF: Wait, wait, wait.
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Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
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At the start, right, we gave you
the benefit of the doubt.
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We welcomed you with open arms.
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The reason you're met with this,
I guess...
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Frustration.
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..frustration is because we welcomed
you in, we put our arms around you,
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we went into bat against Eliot
for you,
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so, like, you had every opportunity
to open yourself up to the group...
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Oh, god.
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..and get more out of this experiment
than anyone else.
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But I've explained to you
multiple times
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that we are not, like,
extroverted personalities.
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We are like not all of them.
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And when we've tried to remove
ourselves in social situations,
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it's created more drama
and more psycho behaviour.
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Like...
BETH: Psycho behaviour?
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Honestly, the behaviour
at social settings is boganic.
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There is no other way
to describe it.
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JOHN: What does that mean?
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It is bogan behaviour.
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Classless.
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It's, like, just... It's just
lacking class, I would say.
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I do feel like the behaviour
at dinner parties,
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which is usually led by
the four of you in the corner there,
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is boganic behaviour.
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And I stand by that.
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It's 'cause of your behaviour.
JACQUI: Yeah, the irony is...
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It's your behaviour.
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Dealing with this absolute circus
is just honestly mentally draining,
298
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so there's absolutely no point in me
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even having a discussion
with any of you.
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I'm done. Don't even...
We're just saying...
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Don't even cut me.
I'm literally done talking.
302
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You are so rude to us all.
You're embarrassing.
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Please, just stop talking to me.
304
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Do we have a curtain
that we can pull across?
305
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Now, Lauren, I've got an issue...
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Mm-hm.
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..because you've thrown some words
around tonight...
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'psycho', 'animals'...
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Mm-hm.
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.."I don't associate
with this type of person."
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You talk as though
you're above them...
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and they're way below you.
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Do you think you're better than them?
314
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Now, Lauren, I've got an issue...
Mm-hm.
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..because you've thrown
some words around tonight -
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'psycho', 'animals'...
Mm-hm.
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.."I don't associate with
this type of person."
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You talk as though
you're above them...
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and they're way below you.
320
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(DRAMATIC MUSIC)
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Do you think you're better than them?
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Because that's what you're saying
to them.
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I feel...
Boganic behaviour...
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Mm-hm.
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..is essentially
"You've got no class.
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"I don't have time for you peasants."
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That's what I'm getting tonight
328
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and that's what I've heard
from this group.
329
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And I'm challenging you and I'm
saying to you, is this how you feel?
330
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Because that's what's coming across.
331
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At the dinner parties
and at the couples' retreat,
332
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I definitely do feel like
I would not behave
333
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the way that they behave
in social situations.
334
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So, for that reason, yes, I do feel
like my behaviour is better.
335
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How's your behaviour?
336
00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:15,920
I don't know, Adrian.
Why don't you tell me?
337
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The fact that you can't see
your attitude is wild to me.
338
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Like, the fact that you cannot see
what you are saying is crazy,
339
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I think, to everyone.
340
00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:27,520
Adrian, pipe down.
Guys...
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Do you know
what's quite interesting to me,
342
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is that when it all went down
with Eliot
343
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and you came back to say
your piece, Eliot had gone,
344
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the group really rallied around you.
345
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And now they're sitting here tonight
throwing daggers at you.
346
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How do you explain the fact that the
group's turned on you particularly?
347
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Yeah, I definitely have a cold,
hard exterior, that is for sure.
348
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Like, it does take me a long time
to drop my walls
349
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and to get to know someone
and to let them get to know me.
350
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And, you know, people think
351
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that, you know,
I'm a bitch or something
352
00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:12,080
because I, you know, maybe...
353
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I don't know, I have
resting bitch face, apparently.
354
00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:19,680
And I feel like I get taken
the wrong way a lot of the time
355
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and then, like, people get
their back up and then I react.
356
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Why do they get their back up?
357
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Probably 'cause they think
that I'm being rude
358
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or that I don't like them,
359
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when it's really just the case
that I am shy,
360
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I am very closed off to begin with.
361
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MEL: No, this time
I've got to jump in.
362
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There is a clear difference
between being shy...
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Mm-hm.
..and being rude...
364
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or being disrespectful.
365
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I think you're giving yourself
a little bit too much credit here...
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personality-wise
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because what we're seeing
368
00:19:54,120 --> 00:19:56,080
in terms of the pattern
that you're displaying here
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is rudeness, Lauren.
370
00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:02,000
You know, John asked you earlier
371
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if you see yourself
as above the rest of the group.
372
00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:08,080
Well, certainly as outsiders
observing you,
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even just your non-verbal
communication,
374
00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:13,040
we would say
that it's a resounding yes.
375
00:20:13,120 --> 00:20:15,320
But I think that's the problem,
though,
376
00:20:15,360 --> 00:20:16,480
that is how I'm perceived...
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00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:19,000
That's your problem.
It is my problem, yes.
378
00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:20,280
Yes.
379
00:20:20,360 --> 00:20:22,480
So, what I think would be
really helpful here for you
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in terms of your own development
is to start asking yourself,
381
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"What am I doing that's making
them feel that way toward me?"
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00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:33,680
I mean, you've acknowledged
some of the words,
383
00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:36,080
the bogans, the losers and so on
384
00:20:36,120 --> 00:20:38,000
but apart from that, I mean,
385
00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:41,840
are you aware of some of the
throwaway comments, for example,
386
00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:46,280
the passive-aggressive barbs
that you're throwing out to the group
387
00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:48,840
or the eye rolling or the, you know,
388
00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:50,800
the really looking down
on these people?
389
00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:53,760
I feel like in the same
conversations, though,
390
00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:55,280
they're calling me names as well.
391
00:20:55,360 --> 00:20:57,960
Again, you're blaming them.
I'm only talking about you.
392
00:20:58,040 --> 00:20:59,640
But it's in the same conversations,
so why is it just...
393
00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:01,760
As a mature adult,
one of your jobs
394
00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:04,920
is to take accountability
for what you do and say.
395
00:21:06,360 --> 00:21:07,720
So my concern here
396
00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:11,360
is that you're choosing not to look
at that stuff at the moment.
397
00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:14,760
I mean, are you able to do that now?
398
00:21:19,120 --> 00:21:22,120
Yeah, it's definitely something
that I can work on.
399
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ALESSANDRA: Lauren, do you feel like
the group conflict
400
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has been a distraction to you
401
00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:30,120
focusing on a relationship
with Clint?
402
00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:31,480
Yep.
403
00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:35,040
It's definitely been a major
negative part of the experience,
404
00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:37,080
is the group.
405
00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:39,520
Clint actually said that when there
was conflict, that you guys...
406
00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:42,640
your relationship got stronger...
OK, Jeff. Sure. Yep.
407
00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:43,760
..'cause you turned into each other.
408
00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:47,160
Did you not say that?
OK. Yep. Uh-huh. Yep.
409
00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:50,240
We definitely united much more
when you guys had your carry-on.
410
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ALESSANDRA: To soothe my curiosity,
what's going on with you two?
411
00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:58,240
What is the relationship?
412
00:21:58,280 --> 00:21:59,920
We get along really well.
413
00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:03,240
Like, day-to-day living,
we actually get along fine.
414
00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:08,120
But we are really...
We are friends, like...
415
00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:11,640
We did speak last time about
the fact that it was a friendship...
416
00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:12,800
Mm-hm.
Yep.
417
00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:16,120
..and it was very clear to me,
Clint, at least from your side
418
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that you did want to pursue
something more than a friendship.
419
00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:23,240
So, what has happened
and what has been done
420
00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,080
to progress the relationship?
421
00:22:25,120 --> 00:22:27,120
I don't know.
422
00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:32,000
We just have been getting along,
enjoying company but haven't...
423
00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:33,760
But that wasn't your goal.
424
00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:35,760
No, definitely not.
425
00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:37,680
Definitely came in here
to find someone
426
00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,400
to be intimate
and affectionate with, for sure.
427
00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:41,920
But in the last couple of weeks,
no...
428
00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:43,880
Do you think you were impacted
by her
429
00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,600
not wanting to meet you
at that level?
430
00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:49,680
I probably got my guard up
a little bit.
431
00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:54,400
Not sure if there was something
that I wanted to keep advancing.
432
00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:56,680
I would need...
433
00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,640
I think we're on the same page
434
00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:02,440
but we probably need to spend
more time as friends
435
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:03,760
to see if it would be something...
436
00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,640
Like, I don't feel like I want to
jump into bed with Lauren.
437
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:10,000
No, I don't feel like
I want to just...
438
00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:13,320
Yeah, I don't feel that right now,
no.
439
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:17,480
RYAN: Clint, can I just say
something as your mate?
440
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:20,520
I'm sitting here and I'm sad,
brother,
441
00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:24,120
because you said you like Lauren,
she's attractive.
442
00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:25,560
You've gone into bat for her.
443
00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:27,360
You still put your balls
on the line.
444
00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:30,440
You said at the boys' night
you had hope for the relationship
445
00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:34,120
and now I just...I want you to speak
from the heart, mate.
446
00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:35,920
Like, what do you want from this,
447
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,840
because I've not seen her give you
a single thing.
448
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:42,960
No support, no emotional connection,
no physical touch.
449
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,880
So, just... It makes me sad, mate.
450
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:47,600
ADRIAN: You can like her, Clint.
That's the thing.
451
00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:48,960
Sorry, mate?
You can like her.
452
00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:50,400
You can say you do like her.
Oh, yeah.
453
00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:51,960
It's clear as day...
Listen, it's clear as day
454
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:53,600
Lauren doesn't like you
and that's OK
455
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:55,840
but you can also say, you know what,
I actually do like her as a person
456
00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,200
and I do like her
and I want to pursue things
457
00:23:58,240 --> 00:23:59,360
and if she says no, that's alright.
458
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:05,680
Like, I don't know why
you're beating around the bush.
459
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:07,800
And again, it's OK to like her, man.
460
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:10,720
LAUREN: But why do you all think
that I've convinced him to say this?
461
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,520
We've said we are friends.
We've been friends...
462
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:14,800
ADRIAN: That's all good.
LAUREN: ..from the beginning.
463
00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:16,760
DAVE: That's all good as hell.
..continue to be friends outside.
464
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,040
That is what we've discussed.
465
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:23,680
BETH: Oh, I know.
I feel so sorry for him.
466
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:31,400
ALESSANDRA: I don't know.
I get a sense that it's different.
467
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:35,400
This is my sense.
CLINT: Mmm.
468
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:36,840
From observing you not just tonight
469
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,520
but since you've arrived
to the experiment,
470
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:43,040
that if she had allowed or
had opened a window or a door,
471
00:24:43,120 --> 00:24:46,520
maybe there's something here,
you would've been very game.
472
00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:48,760
Probably. Early on, yeah, for sure.
473
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:54,040
Lauren, do you feel like
you've put everything you can
474
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,400
into this relationship
475
00:24:56,480 --> 00:25:00,680
or into attempting to build
a relationship with Clint?
476
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:02,120
(DRAMATIC MUSIC)
477
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,000
I do.
478
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:14,240
BETH: You're joking. You're joking.
479
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:18,560
Why do you say that?
480
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:19,800
Um...
481
00:25:21,120 --> 00:25:24,800
Look, Clint and I have been
living together for a few weeks now.
482
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,240
We've done the tasks,
we've gone on the retreat,
483
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:30,120
we've had long conversations,
we've gone on dates.
484
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,840
We've, you know,
spent a lot of time together.
485
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:41,240
And we've both agreed
that it's just not...
486
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:42,560
it's just not there.
487
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,760
(DRAMATIC MUSIC)
488
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:07,480
Lauren, do you feel like
you've put everything you can
489
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:09,840
into this relationship
490
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,960
or into attempting to build
a relationship with Clint?
491
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:17,200
I do.
492
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:20,440
You're joking. You're joking.
493
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:21,840
Why do you say that?
494
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:25,080
Look, Clint and I have been
living together for a few weeks now.
495
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:28,520
We've had long conversations,
we've gone on dates,
496
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:31,240
we've, you know,
spent a lot of time together
497
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:37,280
and we've both agreed
that it's just not...
498
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:38,680
it's just not there.
499
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,080
(DRAMATIC MUSIC)
500
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:47,640
I know. I feel so sorry for him.
501
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:54,600
JOHN: On that note,
we're gonna go to the decision.
502
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:59,040
We're gonna go with you first,
Lauren.
503
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,440
(TENSE MUSIC)
504
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:15,960
"Leave...ing the zoo."
505
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,200
MEL: And another barb.
506
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,040
Oh, that's horrible.
507
00:27:20,120 --> 00:27:22,840
Bro, I actually feel embarrassed
for you.
508
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:24,760
Like, you're actually embarrassing.
509
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,400
(SIGHS)
510
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:28,960
JOHN: I know, I know.
511
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,040
If you had this again, this decision
512
00:27:33,120 --> 00:27:34,720
and you wanted to write down
something...
513
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:36,400
Mm-hm.
..on the card...
514
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:43,480
that wasn't condescending
and sarcastic and demeaning,
515
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:44,720
what would it be?
516
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:46,360
"Leave xx."
517
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:47,960
Gotcha.
518
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,240
For you, Clint,
what have you got for us?
519
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:56,960
Well, it's been
a challenging few days.
520
00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,320
I think...
521
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,920
Yeah, I think the best thing
right now is to also leave.
522
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:04,400
OK.
523
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:07,840
JAMIE: Thank Christ.
524
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:09,680
What we're really curious about
525
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:14,440
is where to from here
as a couple, as a friendship?
526
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,560
What are you gonna do?
What are your plans?
527
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:21,640
Invite her to Tassie, maybe.
I would definitely go to Tassie.
528
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:26,920
OK.
Fantastic.
529
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:30,640
Clint, do you hope
there might be something more?
530
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:34,920
Well, I think if I saw Lauren
outside of here...
531
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:36,320
Or when... When I see Lauren
outside of here...
532
00:28:36,360 --> 00:28:37,720
Yes.
533
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,280
It's also about me seeing if
Lauren's the right person for me.
534
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,200
It's not just me waiting there
for Lauren to just jump up...
535
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:44,240
I get it.
536
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:47,800
So if it did look like she was,
like, the right person for me
537
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:49,960
and our worlds could actually work,
538
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:51,600
absolutely, I'd love to explore
a future.
539
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:53,040
What about you, Lauren?
540
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:54,280
Um...
541
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,520
Sure, I hope that it does blossom
into something.
542
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,000
But if it doesn't,
then that's OK too.
543
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:00,760
BETH: Oh, come on, babe.
544
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,160
OK.
545
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,160
This was intense.
546
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,840
A rollercoaster.
547
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:14,360
You shone brightly
for a short period of time in here.
548
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,320
We thank you very much
for your time in this experiment.
549
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:18,880
Thank you.
Thanks for your help.
550
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:20,800
Good luck for the future.
551
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,600
(DRAMATIC MUSIC)
552
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,040
MEL: Oh, straight out.
553
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,320
They're walking
straight out the door.
554
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:33,360
(DRAMATIC MUSIC)
555
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:40,760
They're just leaving.
556
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:47,400
JOHN: Lauren, Clint,
we don't want you to go right now.
557
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:50,640
ADRIAN: Oh, we do. We do.
558
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:52,280
Yeah, see? Let's go.
559
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:55,520
Do you want to stay for the rest
of the commitment ceremony?
560
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,200
Come on, Loz. Let's get out of here.
No, we're OK. Thank you.
561
00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,000
Thanks for the offer.
That's alright.
562
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:04,120
AWHINA: At least they're consistent.
JAMIE: And case in point.
563
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:05,320
At least they've gone.
564
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:07,960
Bogans.
565
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,080
LAUREN: They're literally crazy.
566
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,320
ALESSANDRA: Our next couple
up on the couch...
567
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:28,840
Awhina and Adrian.
568
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,480
(APPLAUSE AND CHEERING)
569
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,080
JOHN: Hello, you two.
MEL: Hi, guys.
570
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:39,960
AWHINA: Hello.
ALESSANDRA: Hi, guys.
571
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:44,680
You're smiling, Adrian.
572
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:48,360
Yeah, I know.
First time in a minute.
573
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:49,760
That doesn't always happen.
574
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,120
No, I'm always smiling,
but not on this couch here, no.
575
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:53,640
He's always smiling.
576
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:55,400
You know he's about to do
something naughty
577
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:57,560
'cause, like, the smile comes out
and I'm, like, "Shit."
578
00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:58,960
(JAMIE LAUGHS)
579
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:00,920
How was the couples' retreat
for you?
580
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,040
I really enjoyed
the couples' retreat
581
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:06,720
and I left with a smile on my dial.
582
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:08,360
I left and I was having a perk
to my step.
583
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:12,920
And I feel bad because there was
so much turmoil within the group
584
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,680
and I was sad for that,
but I'm here for Adrian
585
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:17,480
and our relationship is stronger
after leaving.
586
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:24,040
This is really nice to see you
having so much lightness again.
587
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:27,680
How are you feeling about that,
Adrian?
588
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:29,840
I'm feeling good, you know.
589
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,720
We started off strong and then
obviously went downhill from there
590
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:36,960
but we're back on...you know,
back on the bike, going up the hill
591
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:38,320
and I'm happy, you know.
592
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,480
We're at a great place right now.
593
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,240
We're also talking about
our next moments together...
594
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:44,440
Yay!
595
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:46,320
..so, like, on the weekend
just gone,
596
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:47,720
Adrian was already discussing
597
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,280
what he wanted to do with me
the following weekend
598
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,200
and I really loved hearing that
599
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:55,560
because it made me hear "I want to
spend more time with you."
600
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:57,360
You know, he could just even say
601
00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:02,360
"I want to go to the tip with you
on the weekend,"
602
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,840
but I'm still hearing
"I want to spend time with you."
603
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,120
So you've had some validation?
604
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:12,200
Loads of validation.
Loads.
605
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:14,120
Yeah.
Mmm. That's wonderful.
606
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:22,960
So, you feel comfortable enough
to be physically attentive, I guess.
607
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:26,240
Has that now progressed
back into the sexual realm?
608
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:27,520
Within 24 hours.
609
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,840
Within 24 hours.
(LAUGHTER)
610
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:36,720
I think we should go to the decision.
So do I.
611
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:40,040
That was the quickest
couch session in, like, ever.
612
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:44,120
Yeah, it's obviously obvious
that I'm staying.
613
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,360
It's obviously obvious
that Adrian is staying.
614
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:48,760
Alright.
615
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:50,920
Awhina, what about you?
616
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,080
I'm also staying.
617
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,440
That's an enthusiastic big stay.
618
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,200
MEL: Very enthusiastic.
We love it.
619
00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,160
We're never getting rid of you,
Adrian.
620
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,280
I know. Not that easy.
(LAUGHTER)
621
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:04,520
ALESSANDRA: You guys can go back
to the couch.
622
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:05,760
MEL: Thank you.
ALESSANDRA: Thank you so much.
623
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:07,080
MAN: Well done, Adrian and Awhina.
624
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:10,120
(APPLAUSE)
625
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:13,120
JOHN: Our next couple up,
Jacqui and Ryan.
626
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:17,120
(APPLAUSE)
627
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:18,920
Come and grab a seat.
MEL: Hello.
628
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:20,840
RYAN: Thank you, guys.
ALESSANDRA: Hello, hello.
629
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,600
MEL: Welcome.
Hello, Alessandra, Mel, John.
630
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:25,360
JOHN: How are you two?
631
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:29,360
Well, oh, OK, so, Ryan has started
complimenting me
632
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,200
on the thing that's most important
to me, which is my intellect.
633
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,080
And he hasn't...
And fashion sense.
634
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:35,640
I mean, look.
Oh, yeah, fashion as well. Yeah.
635
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:37,200
(LAUGHS)
That too?
636
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:38,520
Yeah. Yeah.
637
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:40,440
She's brilliant, you know, and...
Yeah.
638
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,120
..it's nice to meet someone who...
639
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,920
She's probably even slightly above
my intellectual level
640
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:46,680
and it's really refreshing,
you know.
641
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:48,320
Like... Yeah.
(COUPLE LAUGH)
642
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:51,920
That was big for me.
643
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,240
Like, on my letter writing,
like, I wrote about that,
644
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,480
how I felt like I never get seen
by anyone
645
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,920
because I get assumed
I'm a model or, like, hot
646
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:04,000
and I never get seen for who I am
as a person deep down inside
647
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:05,880
and so, like,
that's really important to me.
648
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:09,360
So do you feel like you're on
the same page as one another?
649
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:13,120
So, Ryan and I started getting
sexually intimate...
650
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,640
and I think we've done it, like,
maybe twice or three times...
651
00:34:17,720 --> 00:34:19,080
There's been more than that.
Come on.
652
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:19,920
Again, I... I...
(LAUGHS)
653
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:23,720
One morning, we woke up
654
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:25,400
and I was, like, "Oh, shall we..."
you know...
655
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,760
And Ryan said, "Oh, no.
656
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,840
"Like, sorry,
I can't before the gym."
657
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:40,360
Then he explained to me that
he would prefer to... (LAUGHS)
658
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,000
save his testosterone for the gym.
659
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:47,640
(LAUGHS)
660
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,160
MEL: I wasn't expecting you
to go there.
661
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,200
You're saving it for the gym?
662
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:57,200
He likes to save his testosterone
for dinner parties and curls.
663
00:34:57,240 --> 00:34:59,720
(LAUGHTER)
664
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:07,560
And I actually really respected it,
right?
665
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:10,640
It shows discipline in a man and
it shows that he's got self-control.
666
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:17,280
He obviously values his lifestyle
and fitness and body very highly,
667
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,600
which is actually a huge priority
for me, so I said to him...
668
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:21,120
Not at the expense of your needs.
Yeah.
669
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:22,320
That needs to be said.
Yeah.
670
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,520
But it was at the expense
of my needs.
671
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:26,920
(LAUGHTER)
672
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,000
Anyway... Anyway...
Alright.
673
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:30,400
(BOTH LAUGH)
674
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:34,360
At the retreat, I had a girls' chat
675
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,880
and everyone's sharing
how their relationship's going
676
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,520
and I was, like, "Has anyone dated
a gym boy before?
677
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:41,560
"Like, is it true?"
678
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,120
And what was the feedback, Jacqui?
679
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,920
The feedback was that
no-one's ever heard of it before.
680
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:50,520
No-one's ever dated a guy who
saves his testosterone for the gym.
681
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,640
(DRAMATIC MUSIC)
682
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:58,760
ALESSANDRA: I have a question
on this whole morning situation...
683
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,400
and your testosterone,
you know, holding onto.
684
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:11,000
Why were you not
just pleasuring her?
685
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:13,320
Um...
(LAUGHS)
686
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:14,360
I'm not sure.
687
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,560
Oh, dang.
688
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:18,880
In what situation, sorry?
689
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:29,720
I have a question on
this whole morning situation.
690
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,440
Why were you not just pleasuring her?
691
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:36,960
In what situation, sorry?
692
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:38,280
In the morning situation
693
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:42,000
that you wanted to maintain
your testosterone in your body.
694
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:46,520
You can totally do that
and still super pleasure her.
695
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:47,960
Um...
(LAUGHS)
696
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:49,960
I'm not sure.
Oh, dang.
697
00:36:51,240 --> 00:36:54,600
So, what's up with modern man?
Where did he go?
698
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,240
BETH AND TEEJAY: Oooh!
699
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:00,720
BETH: Alessandra!
700
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:01,800
So, are you saying
701
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:03,840
at that particular morning
that you're talking about...
702
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:08,360
Any morning that you want to
maintain your testosterone
703
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:11,840
and not be active yourself,
you can still pleasure your partner.
704
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:13,120
Yeah, for sure.
705
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,920
There has to be a balance
between our two sets of needs
706
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:17,040
and, like, they're not identical.
707
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:22,120
We're all making light
because it is funny.
708
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:26,040
But, yeah,
you can get really frustrated
709
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,200
if when you have your moment,
710
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:31,120
your partner isn't available because
of something that he's choosing
711
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:35,640
and there ways that you can come to,
you know,
712
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:38,000
both of you being satisfied.
713
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:41,080
There's no reason for her
to be not satisfied
714
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:42,920
just because you haven't been
to the gym.
715
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:45,640
Yeah, absolutely.
716
00:37:45,720 --> 00:37:47,440
And I don't want to classify that
in those terms.
717
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:52,080
I would never prioritise "gym"
over my partner's needs. Never.
718
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,240
It seems like you did that morning,
though.
719
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,480
It's not even about, like, the sex.
Like, I honestly don't care.
720
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:11,440
But, like, I feel like often
there's just no willingness
721
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:14,200
to compromise, you know.
722
00:38:14,240 --> 00:38:15,960
Which is my point.
723
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:20,120
But there has been compromise.
724
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,640
There has been. From both sides.
725
00:38:22,720 --> 00:38:25,880
JOHN: Ryan, do you hear yourself
when you say that?
726
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:29,720
Because it's quite telling.
727
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,640
She's saying, "I don't feel like
there's a lot of compromise."
728
00:38:35,240 --> 00:38:37,240
And you're saying
"That's simply not true."
729
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:40,800
It does confuse me a little bit
730
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:42,400
'cause she has made
a lot of comments
731
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:44,280
about "You've changed
your behaviour so much
732
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:45,920
"and now
you're the most supportive husband
733
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,640
"that you've never been before..."
and all these positive things
734
00:38:48,720 --> 00:38:50,680
and then say
I'm not compromising at all...
735
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:52,480
No, but there's different...
No, listen, listen...
736
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:55,800
'Cause if I wasn't, then there'd be
no change to our energy
737
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:57,080
and we wouldn't be in a good place,
738
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:58,800
so I just need you to think
more carefully
739
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:00,400
when you make these statements
740
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:03,080
because then John
rightly jumped on that
741
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:05,320
and it's not 100% the case, is it?
742
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,520
Ryan, I'm getting uncomfortable
with how you're talking to her.
743
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,800
You're saying to her
"You need to think more carefully
744
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,520
"about how you bring up
these things."
745
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:20,760
You're saying, when she speaks,
"That's simply not true."
746
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:23,760
Your response is to shut her down
747
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:25,640
and talk to her
like she's a little schoolgirl.
748
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:32,760
Oh, do you think?
Yes.
749
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:34,280
You're like the school principal...
WOMAN: Yes.
750
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:35,600
..telling her off.
751
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:38,760
Oh, I'm sorry.
That wasn't my intention.
752
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:40,880
How do you go about expressing that
753
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:44,120
in a way that doesn't make me
come across as the school principal?
754
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:49,480
(JACQUI CRIES)
755
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:52,920
BETH: Wait, is she crying
or laughing? Oh...
756
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:54,520
(TEARFULLY) I don't know.
What's wrong?
757
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:02,240
(CRIES)
758
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:06,520
RYAN: What's wrong?
759
00:40:09,720 --> 00:40:11,880
I just feel like it's hopeless.
760
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:15,880
You've just, like,
never really tried.
761
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,160
It's not hopeless.
(CRIES) It is.
762
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:22,400
It's not, babe. It's not.
763
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:27,320
Like, I feel like I'm met
with so much, like, resistance
764
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:29,640
and it's just so hard for me
to just push through
765
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:31,560
and, like, try and, like...
766
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:33,440
I feel like I'm wading through
an ocean
767
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:34,920
where the current's
just coming back at me
768
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:35,960
with the relationship, you know.
769
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:39,880
Yeah.
770
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:42,040
I am confused and...
Yeah.
771
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:43,200
..honestly a little bit hurt.
772
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,160
Yeah, well, there's,
like, obviously good stuff.
773
00:40:45,240 --> 00:40:47,400
That doesn't discredit
all the, like, fun
774
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:48,960
I've been having with you.
775
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:51,480
You're right, there has been growth.
Yeah.
776
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:54,360
You're absolutely right.
Mmm.
777
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:58,120
You are a couple that has made
huge strides.
778
00:40:58,160 --> 00:40:59,440
Yep.
779
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:00,880
Is it perfect? No.
780
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:06,480
Are you both trying completely?
Yes.
781
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,920
You're a very different couple.
782
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,200
But you've gotta be more open-minded.
783
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:16,400
When people bring things up,
get curious as opposed to defensive.
784
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:22,520
What we're gonna do now
is go to the decision.
785
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:25,560
Jacqui.
786
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:28,760
For me, like,
I genuinely mean it when I say,
787
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:32,360
Ryan, I am enjoying
spending time with you.
788
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:34,240
I do still want to work
on this relationship.
789
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:35,720
I want it to be the best it can.
Lovely.
790
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:38,800
And that's why I said stay.
(LAUGHS) Yeah.
791
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:40,680
Ryan.
792
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:43,840
OK. I want to keep chatting.
793
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:45,480
I want to keep seeing where it goes.
794
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:47,200
Good.
Alright. Thank you, guys.
795
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:48,440
Well done.
Appreciate it.
796
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:50,400
Well done.
(APPLAUSE)
797
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:57,120
Ow!
Sorry.
798
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,120
You just hit her in the head.
799
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:02,080
Are you OK? Are you alright?
(LAUGHS) Yeah...
800
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,640
I went to put the arm up
and her head went back.
801
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:07,320
I'm so sorry. (KISSES)
802
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,040
(LAUGHS) Sorry, gang.
803
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:13,520
Let's get our next couple up.
804
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:20,360
Eliot and Veronica.
805
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:23,360
(APPLAUSE)
(TENSE MUSIC)
806
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:28,320
Well...
MEL: Hello.
807
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:29,840
VERONICA: How are you?
ALESSANDRA: Hello.
808
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:31,160
Well, we're doing well.
809
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:35,080
Who wants to kick it off?
810
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:43,640
We had a great retreat as a couple.
811
00:42:43,720 --> 00:42:48,160
But now I'm feeling really unsure
about my choices this week.
812
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:50,040
In what way?
813
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:53,440
I guess maybe holding back
a little bit
814
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:57,440
to what my normal communication
would look like
815
00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:02,160
in order to fit in with Eliot.
816
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:06,920
So, does that mean
at the couples' retreat...
817
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:08,240
Yes.
818
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:12,480
..that it was a filtered version
of you that Eliot saw?
819
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:18,840
Yes, I have held back
on certain areas
820
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,160
that are very big parts
of my personality
821
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:22,760
in my relationship with you
822
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:27,320
because I don't want to
overwhelm you
823
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:29,040
and I don't feel like
824
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,920
we're at that point
of comfortability with each other
825
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:36,520
and emotional openness
that it will be received well.
826
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:39,960
Are you saying that the reason
why we're getting along
827
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:43,680
is because you were changing
your personality?
828
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:46,720
Like, that to me
is a really big accusation.
829
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:50,720
It feels like from my perspective
we had a great week.
830
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:52,600
Total disconnect here.
Yeah.
831
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:57,560
Like, it's just baffling to me.
832
00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:02,280
Like, it just seems like
I'm in this experiment
833
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:04,280
with someone
that doesn't really like me.
834
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:05,320
Like...
835
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:07,120
Do you think I feel that way
as well?
836
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:11,480
I'm gonna ask you, Veronica,
to let him finish...
837
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:13,080
I apologise.
..before you go on.
838
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:19,320
It just feels like this constant,
constant uphill battle
839
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:23,920
and, like, it doesn't feel like
I can just, like, relax.
840
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,720
Do you feel judged?
Yeah, 100%.
841
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:31,240
Like, the other thing that came out
at the dinner party
842
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:35,200
which, you know,
kind of blindsided me
843
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:37,840
was that when we did have
our kind of worst week
844
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:39,680
after the first dinner party,
845
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:43,440
Veronica chose to go and confide
in Lauren.
846
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:48,800
I admit now that going to Lauren
probably was not the best choice.
847
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:50,640
Why?
848
00:44:50,720 --> 00:44:55,120
Well, because she obviously has
her own motivations, opinions.
849
00:44:57,160 --> 00:45:00,920
But I understand why you would be
hurt by that and I apologise.
850
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:02,600
It's not about being hurt.
851
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:06,920
It's about me questioning, like,
what your priorities are here.
852
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:08,800
Mmm.
853
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:14,360
And if we're modifying
our personalities,
854
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:17,320
we're not truly engaging
in the experiment.
855
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:22,600
Let's sum this up.
Mmm.
856
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:28,520
That even after a good week away
as a couple at the couples' retreat,
857
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:32,440
you're basically saying
that neither one of you feel desired
858
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:34,120
or really liked by the other person.
859
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:36,240
Mmm.
860
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:37,560
That's a bit sad.
861
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:39,440
Mmm.
862
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:41,120
But I think we're gonna need to go
to the decision.
863
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:46,920
Sadly, the way that you're talking
right now about one another,
864
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:51,760
we kind of feel like
we know where this is headed.
865
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:56,000
So let's find out.
Stay or leave?
866
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:58,200
Let's go with you first...
867
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:02,200
Veronica.
868
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:09,600
So, obviously I have made
a lot of adjustments
869
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:12,000
that I thought would be beneficial
for the relationship
870
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:14,160
and I realise that maybe
they're not.
871
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:16,680
And so...
872
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:21,560
no more moderated personality.
(LAUGHS)
873
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:25,280
I said stay.
You're gonna stay? OK.
874
00:46:27,240 --> 00:46:29,160
Alright.
875
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:31,280
Eliot.
876
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:34,600
Yeah. I... I was definitely
in two minds.
877
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:35,760
I...
878
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:37,840
I...
879
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:41,960
have decided...
880
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:45,320
(DRAMATIC MUSIC)
881
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:47,800
..I was gonna give it another week
882
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:51,040
and then if we write stay,
we write stay,
883
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:52,640
if we write leave, we write leave.
884
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:58,160
Alright, I'm glad
that you've done this.
885
00:46:58,240 --> 00:47:01,440
It's completely confused me,
but I love it.
886
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:07,280
The fact that you've decided to
stay means we can deal with that.
887
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:11,040
And the way
you're gonna deal with it, Veronica,
888
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:12,840
you're gonna start by
just being yourself...
889
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:16,400
and you're gonna embrace her.
890
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:19,720
But give him a chance to do it.
891
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:21,160
You're gonna have to do
this differently.
892
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:25,080
And with that,
you can go back to the group.
893
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:27,880
(APPLAUSE)
894
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:33,760
(DRAMATIC MUSIC)
895
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:40,040
NARRATOR: Coming up...
896
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:42,320
I'm so sorry, I will cut you off.
897
00:47:44,720 --> 00:47:46,920
..Jamie gets called out
for her behaviour
898
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:49,440
at last night's dinner party.
899
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:52,000
Mama bears don't do this
to their cubs.
900
00:47:53,720 --> 00:47:55,800
They just don't.
901
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:11,240
Our next couple up on the couch,
Rhi and Jeff.
902
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:12,920
MAN: Hey!
(APPLAUSE)
903
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:15,560
RHI: Hello.
ALESSANDRA AND MEL: Hello.
904
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:17,160
JEFF: Hello.
JOHN: Hey, you two.
905
00:48:17,240 --> 00:48:20,120
MEL: Welcome.
COUPLE: Thank you.
906
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:22,600
How has the week been for you two?
907
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:26,000
(LAUGHS)
It's been a big week.
908
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:27,200
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
909
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:30,960
Yeah, obviously, as we've heard,
there's been a lot of drama.
910
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:38,920
And, yeah, it's taken a little bit
of a toll on probably Rhi
911
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:41,120
more so than myself.
912
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:44,280
Seeing Rhi, how she's been,
you know, a bit off
913
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:46,920
and not her normal self,
914
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:49,200
it's hard for me to see
and it actually hurts me inside.
915
00:48:49,240 --> 00:48:50,680
Yeah.
916
00:48:50,720 --> 00:48:52,240
I guess it's demonstrated to me
917
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:54,280
how much I actually
genuinely do care for Rhi.
918
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:58,200
I want to help her as best I can
919
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:00,480
and I really do care about
how she feels
920
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:02,840
and I do truly hate
seeing her upset.
921
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:04,680
Yeah, it just...
It did really affect me
922
00:49:04,720 --> 00:49:06,280
when I saw her like that.
923
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:12,120
Listening to you describe
your experience this week, Jeff,
924
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:14,840
and the way that you're caring
for Rhi,
925
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:19,040
it's really throwing out signs of,
926
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:21,760
you know, this relationship's
got legs.
927
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:23,960
It's gonna go somewhere.
It definitely has legs.
928
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:27,400
Can you see yourself falling in love
with Rhi?
929
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:29,760
(LAUGHS) Oh, hard-hitting.
930
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:32,280
Um...
931
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:33,960
Yeah. (LAUGHS)
932
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:35,520
Um...
933
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:40,440
Yeah, I think I'm on the right path
to feeling that way, yeah,
934
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:42,760
especially over the last, like,
two or three weeks, like,
935
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:44,600
the feelings are getting
a lot deeper
936
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:46,760
and last week definitely
demonstrated that for me,
937
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:50,040
so, yeah, I'm optimistic about it.
938
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:51,720
(LAUGHS)
939
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:54,520
ALESSANDRA: He's blushing.
MEL: Yeah.
940
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:56,200
Why couldn't you look me in the eye
and say that?
941
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:03,000
Rhi, did you hear what he just said,
942
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:06,600
that he does see himself
falling in love with you?
943
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:09,520
Yes, I did hear that.
And how does that feel?
944
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:10,800
It feels very good.
(LAUGHS)
945
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:13,120
It feels very good.
946
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:14,920
I kind of didn't know
where to look, to be honest.
947
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:16,880
I'm, like...
Yeah.
948
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:18,680
(LAUGHS)
949
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:21,000
Have you heard him say
anything like that before?
950
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:23,880
No.
Wow.
951
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:25,520
It's pretty crazy to hear it
as well,
952
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:27,040
considering obviously
where we came from...
953
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:29,360
Yeah.
..and having dated before.
954
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:32,480
I just thought that, you know,
we'd go through the experiment,
955
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:35,360
figure out that we're friend-zoned
and that was it.
956
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:37,520
I didn't realise
that we would be here, right...
957
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:39,840
like, at this point
in the experiment.
958
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:42,240
So, Rhi, what about
from your perspective?
959
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:44,200
Can you see yourself
falling in love with Jeff?
960
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:47,360
I can.
961
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:52,280
Jeff is still blushing.
I know!
962
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:55,200
I am. Oh...
(LAUGHS)
963
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:59,680
(LAUGHS)
I've gotta say, this is really cute.
964
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:01,560
My smile is really wide
and I can't...
965
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:03,240
Yes, it is. It's a huge smile.
966
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:06,200
And we are so happy
for the two of you as well.
967
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:08,880
I think it's time
to go to the decision.
968
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:10,000
Perfect.
969
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:12,720
I am writing stay.
Fabulous.
970
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:15,080
No surprises here. Stay.
971
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:16,960
There's some kisses
and hugs for you.
972
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:18,840
Oh, thanks.
Well done, you guys.
973
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:20,520
Thank you so much. Thanks, guys.
Awesome.
974
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:29,360
Our next couple up on the couch,
Beth and Teejay.
975
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:33,640
(APPLAUSE)
BETH: Oooh, thank you.
976
00:51:33,720 --> 00:51:35,520
TEEJAY: Hey, hey, hey.
Hello.
977
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:38,000
How you going?
JOHN: Very good.
978
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:39,480
MEL: Good to see you guys.
You too.
979
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:41,480
Hello.
Where are you at?
980
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:44,360
How are you going?
I'll start.
981
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:47,760
He's amazing.
I feel so comfortable with him.
982
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:50,640
And we've established
a really good friendship,
983
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:53,400
but I feel...
984
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:58,200
that Teejay's maybe
not attracted to me.
985
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:04,960
It's not really anything
that he's doing.
986
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:09,920
I think obviously we did sleep
together a few weeks ago...
987
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:13,600
and I think because we kind of
ripped the Band-Aid off
988
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:16,920
and we were intimate
and then it stopped,
989
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:21,080
for me, I'm thinking,
"Oh, maybe he's not attracted to me
990
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:22,200
"and he doesn't want to
do that again."
991
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:26,600
I always wait for the guy
to initiate everything
992
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:31,800
because I've got this belief
about myself
993
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:33,320
that I won't be good enough
for someone.
994
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:38,720
I try to ignore the voice in my head
and, you know, hype myself up, like,
995
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:40,640
"You are pretty, you are worthy,"
you know,
996
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:42,560
and tell myself all those things
997
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:45,080
but I think it still kind of
lives in my head a little bit.
998
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:49,440
ALESSANDRA: Teejay, do you feel
sexual chemistry with Beth?
999
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:52,200
It does confuse me, hearing Beth say
1000
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:53,840
that she doesn't think
that I'm attracted to her
1001
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:57,240
because I felt like
I was doing those things,
1002
00:52:57,320 --> 00:53:00,160
like, active service, affirmation...
doing all these things.
1003
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:01,280
I make it known to Beth
1004
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:03,880
that I'm particularly
a big fan of her backside.
1005
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:04,920
(LAUGHS)
1006
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:06,480
I like smacking her on the butt
any chance I get.
1007
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:09,520
It's one thing to admire
a beautiful woman...
1008
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:10,560
Of course.
1009
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:13,680
It's a very different thing to be
attracted to that beautiful woman.
1010
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:16,840
You can admire and not necessarily
want to... (EXCLAIMS) go.
1011
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:20,200
I don't think that I would be
as touchy-feely with Beth
1012
00:53:20,240 --> 00:53:21,520
if I wasn't attracted to her.
1013
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:22,960
Like, I just wouldn't do that.
1014
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:24,280
Why do you not just grab her
and kiss her?
1015
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:29,240
I've taken, I guess,
a step back in that aspect
1016
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:31,520
because I feel like
the reciprocation wasn't there,
1017
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:34,200
because I crave
a sense of being wanted.
1018
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:37,200
I want my partner to equally want me
as much as I want them.
1019
00:53:37,240 --> 00:53:38,520
And I hope that it's aware to you
1020
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:40,320
that I definitely am attracted
to you as well too...
1021
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:43,200
OK.
..by the things that I do.
1022
00:53:43,240 --> 00:53:45,240
I do not know a single human
1023
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:47,360
who doesn't want to feel desired
by their partner.
1024
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:53,400
It is important, Beth,
that you are able to let Teejay know
1025
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:56,000
about how desirable you find him.
1026
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:59,440
Don't make it a bigger deal
than it needs to be,
1027
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:01,400
if it's just confusion
and communication.
1028
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:02,880
Yeah.
1029
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:05,960
I think it's time for the decision.
1030
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:09,520
I'm staying.
MEL: Staying.
1031
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:11,160
With a smiley face
and a little kiss.
1032
00:54:11,240 --> 00:54:13,720
I'm not done with you yet, love.
(BOTH LAUGH)
1033
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:17,760
Yeah, it was an easy stay for me.
Yay.
1034
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:20,200
Just to see where the connection
can take us as well.
1035
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:21,760
Great.
Thanks guys.
1036
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:23,320
Thank you so much.
1037
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:24,280
(APPLAUSE)
Great.
1038
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:25,920
Thank you.
1039
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:28,960
As I say, S is for staying
and sexy time.
1040
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:30,640
JEFF: Just keep it down tonight.
1041
00:54:30,720 --> 00:54:33,360
We'll put a sock on the door knob
or something. (LAUGHS)
1042
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:36,480
Our next couple up on the couch...
1043
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:39,480
Carina and Paul.
1044
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:41,360
(APPLAUSE)
1045
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:49,080
So, we're gonna go
straight to last night.
1046
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:55,400
Carina, we certainly observed
quite a level of tension
1047
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:57,080
between yourself and Jamie
1048
00:54:57,160 --> 00:55:00,480
based on your differing opinions
about Clint and Lauren.
1049
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:03,520
CARINA: Mm-hm.
What was going on for you?
1050
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:08,800
Somehow, I've been caught
and brought into
1051
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:11,600
the crazy drama that's happening.
1052
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:15,280
(TENSE MUSIC)
1053
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:19,960
The behaviour that I saw
1054
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:23,520
at the girls' night
was something I don't stand for,
1055
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:30,360
from both ends, but it was like
a mean girls 2.0 environment.
1056
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:35,880
It was like one girl
against a few girls.
1057
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:38,920
I don't stand by
that behaviour.
1058
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:42,360
You're still suggesting
that I'm a mean girl?
1059
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:45,160
I didn't specifically say
that you're a mean girl.
1060
00:55:45,240 --> 00:55:47,680
The environment was
a mean-girl environment, Jamie.
1061
00:55:47,720 --> 00:55:49,840
Oh, good lord!
1062
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:51,880
Make sense of this, 'cause I can't.
1063
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:53,320
It's actually frustrating
speaking to you.
1064
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:56,280
You keep on doubling down
and insulting me.
1065
00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:58,400
But I don't understand
how she's insulting you, though.
1066
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:00,880
The only reason
I was in confrontation
1067
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:03,720
is because your mate made comments
1068
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:05,520
saying "I don't care
about your opinion."
1069
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:07,240
She's going,
"I'm so bored of this."
1070
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:09,920
Why am I getting involved in that?
I'm not...
1071
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:10,800
And I defend all that.
1072
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:13,520
I defended you and your husband
who are in this experiment.
1073
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:15,760
When? When? Jamie, when?
1074
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:19,080
I can't... I actually can't be
a part of this.
1075
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:23,200
I really can't, I promise you.
It's so frustrating.
1076
00:56:23,240 --> 00:56:25,920
Whew. Jesus Christ.
1077
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:33,880
JAMIE: I defended you and your
husband who are in this experiment.
1078
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:35,920
CARINA: When? When? Jamie, when?
1079
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:39,600
I can't... I actually can't be
a part of this.
1080
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:41,520
I really can't, I promise you.
It's so frustrating.
1081
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:49,000
I'm friends with everyone,
so for some reason,
1082
00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:54,040
because I didn't agree with how some
of the girls reacted towards Lauren,
1083
00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:59,800
I'm now getting accused
or I'm not a good friend to Jamie.
1084
00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:02,800
Whew. Jesus Christ.
1085
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:05,440
I'm sorry that I offended you
and hurt you,
1086
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:08,440
but I don't want this animosity
between anyone.
1087
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:12,560
I'm trying to make everyone
be friends. That's it.
1088
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:19,000
(SIGHS)
MEL: OK.
1089
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:22,040
You found yourself in a situation
1090
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:24,840
where you had offered support
to Lauren...
1091
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:26,000
Yeah.
1092
00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:27,480
..and the group's
turning against you.
1093
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:30,360
Mm-hm.
What was that like for you?
1094
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:33,080
It was hard.
1095
00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:35,080
It was really tough
because I didn't want it...
1096
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:37,320
I didn't want it
to turn out that way.
1097
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:40,640
I just felt like everything was
completely blown out of proportion
1098
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:45,440
and somehow I got involved
for trying to mend everything.
1099
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:48,400
I'm coming from a good place.
1100
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:50,400
I'm not the one
throwing words out there.
1101
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:57,680
And last night, I felt like I...
I was, like, cornered...
1102
00:57:57,720 --> 00:57:58,880
Yeah.
1103
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:01,320
..and it was
a very uncomfortable feeling
1104
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:02,760
and I did not want to be there.
1105
00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:10,080
I felt really, like, sad
and I felt uncomfortable.
1106
00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:15,840
And I felt, like, less worthy.
1107
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:17,240
Mmm.
1108
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:19,680
Less worthy.
1109
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:22,680
(HALF-LAUGHS) Yeah.
1110
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:29,720
And I'm not intelligent enough,
to say the least...
1111
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:31,720
PAUL: No, don't say that.
1112
00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:39,320
Last night at the dinner party, did
you feel like your voice was heard?
1113
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:42,320
Not really.
1114
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:44,440
I tried to express my feelings
1115
00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:50,400
and I felt like my feelings
are invalid or they're dumbed down
1116
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:53,720
and I don't feel confident
in that environment
1117
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:57,320
because maybe I express
my words differently
1118
00:58:57,360 --> 00:58:58,880
to some of the other girls,
1119
00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:01,800
maybe I'm not as quick to the mark
as some of the other girls are,
1120
00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:04,480
maybe I take time to digest
how I feel
1121
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:07,640
and then I make the executive
decision to open my mouth.
1122
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:14,280
Carina, I'm noticing in your voice
that this is really upsetting you.
1123
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:18,440
It's not a nice feeling.
(HALF-LAUGHS) It's not.
1124
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:20,400
Why is it so distressing?
1125
00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:22,640
Because I guess...
1126
00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:25,720
Yeah, I don't know, like,
growing up,
1127
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:27,960
I'm a baby of five,
1128
00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:31,760
so it was hard
to get your voice across
1129
00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:36,240
and, you know,
that's just how it goes
1130
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:38,360
and how it went, so, yeah,
1131
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:42,000
it's kind of like bringing back
a little bit of trauma,
1132
00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:44,400
so I just want to, like,
abort the situation.
1133
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:48,080
And that's why I think
I try and preach, like,
1134
00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:51,680
what you give is what you'll get
in return
1135
00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:53,440
and just being kind to everyone
1136
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:55,680
or if you have nothing nice to say,
don't say it at all.
1137
00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:03,480
I did not sleep last night
and I kept thinking about Jamie
1138
01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:05,360
and I kept thinking about everyone
1139
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:08,240
and I was racking my brain
1140
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:11,400
as to how, like...
how did it get to this point,
1141
01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:14,600
because I don't think that's how
friends act towards one another,
1142
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:16,000
if we're friends.
1143
01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:22,400
And I wish I could change it
but, yeah, I don't know how.
1144
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:24,400
Mmm.
1145
01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:27,280
(SOLEMN MUSIC)
1146
01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:39,560
What I want to say to you is this -
well done.
1147
01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:41,680
Thank you.
1148
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:45,560
Because it is difficult to
stand up against the group,
1149
01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:48,880
to go against the grain
and you did that.
1150
01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:51,560
So, well done. That took courage.
1151
01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:56,720
Thank you.
1152
01:00:56,800 --> 01:00:59,120
It's great that you've got that
support here in Paul.
1153
01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:00,240
Yeah.
I can see that.
1154
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:03,000
Yeah, I'm very lucky
because last night I was, like,
1155
01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:05,160
I just want to koala-bear him
in bed...
1156
01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:06,360
Mm-hm.
1157
01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:08,600
..and I wrap myself around him
like a little kid.
1158
01:01:08,680 --> 01:01:11,280
Yeah.
Yeah.
1159
01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:12,600
Seeing Carina
1160
01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:14,560
and, like, literally hearing
the thing that she just said,
1161
01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:16,520
that makes me feel extremely sad,
1162
01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:18,680
but sometimes things happen
for a reason
1163
01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:22,880
and it just make me, you know,
appreciate her even more.
1164
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:24,680
I just care for this woman so much.
1165
01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:28,480
You know,
I just don't want to lose her.
1166
01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:31,760
Alright. We're gonna go
to the decision now.
1167
01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:33,080
Sure.
Mm-hm.
1168
01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:35,040
Paul, we'll start with you.
Sure.
1169
01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:37,680
Well, I definitely want to continue
this adventure
1170
01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:39,200
with this beautiful woman
1171
01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:42,520
and I have no intention to leave,
so... (LAUGHS)
1172
01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:44,040
Aw.
..I'm gonna stay.
1173
01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:46,560
(LAUGHS)
Oh, that's nice writing.
1174
01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:49,040
Oh, that's a nice love heart.
Very nice, babe.
1175
01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:50,520
I did one as well.
1176
01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:53,200
Aw!
(LAUGHS)
1177
01:01:53,240 --> 01:01:55,000
And Carina.
1178
01:01:55,080 --> 01:01:57,920
Yes, well... I'm, like,
did you copy me?
1179
01:01:58,000 --> 01:01:59,240
(BOTH LAUGH)
Oooh!
1180
01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:01,560
(OTHERS EXCLAIM)
Two hearts.
1181
01:02:01,600 --> 01:02:03,280
Love it.
1182
01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:04,560
JOHN: Have a great week.
Thank you.
1183
01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:05,720
(APPLAUSE)
Thank you.
1184
01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:17,760
Our last couple up on the couch,
Jamie and Dave.
1185
01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:21,920
(APPLAUSE)
1186
01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:25,240
Hello, you two.
DAVE: Hey, guys.
1187
01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:28,120
Oh, I know I'm in trouble.
1188
01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:29,640
Why do you say that?
1189
01:02:29,720 --> 01:02:32,560
Because I know... I know how
I conducted myself last night.
1190
01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:35,360
So, take us there, then,
to last night.
1191
01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:38,680
What was it that took you
1192
01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:41,640
into this completely different
version of Jamie?
1193
01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:46,840
Like, so, obviously,
after girls' night,
1194
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:51,080
there was, like, a clear, like,
issue that we had with Lauren
1195
01:02:51,160 --> 01:02:54,680
the night that I got into
that garden party argument.
1196
01:02:54,760 --> 01:02:57,200
It felt like no-one
was speaking up for me
1197
01:02:57,240 --> 01:02:58,520
when I've always had people's backs
1198
01:02:58,600 --> 01:03:01,960
and I feel like I have defended
so many people
1199
01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:05,720
and in that moment,
I felt so much pain.
1200
01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:12,120
Lauren sat there, smug, going,
"Where are your mates?"
1201
01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:14,120
And that killed me.
1202
01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:19,040
So, Lauren shamed you?
Humiliated you?
1203
01:03:19,080 --> 01:03:21,400
I felt very humiliated.
1204
01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:25,040
Like, I don't remember the last time
I felt pain like that, to be honest.
1205
01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:29,960
I know I'm strong
but, like, I'm very sensitive
1206
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:31,840
and my heart is very big
1207
01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:35,240
and unfortunately, like,
when I feel that kind of pain
1208
01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:38,680
that I never want to feel,
I come out swinging.
1209
01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:40,120
Yeah.
1210
01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:44,000
I'm someone that you've probably
seen time and time again,
1211
01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:46,400
I defend the cub.
1212
01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:51,040
I'm, like, a mother bear
with her cubs.
1213
01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:55,520
I'm very protective
over the people around me.
1214
01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:02,400
I just... I don't know, I've just
naturally taken this role.
1215
01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:06,080
It's like a part of, I guess, like,
my personal values.
1216
01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:10,600
Like, you know, I see bad behaviour
and I call it out.
1217
01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:15,920
ALESSANDRA: I'm sorry.
I'm so sorry, I will cut you off.
1218
01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:20,560
Mama bears don't do this to
their cubs.
1219
01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:22,720
(DRAMATIC MUSIC)
1220
01:04:26,120 --> 01:04:27,520
They just don't.
1221
01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:43,040
JAMIE: I see bad behaviour
and I call it out.
1222
01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:47,880
I'm sorry. I'm so sorry,
I will cut you off.
1223
01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:52,960
Mama bears
don't do this to their cubs.
1224
01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:56,120
(TENSE MUSIC)
1225
01:04:56,160 --> 01:04:58,760
They just don't.
1226
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:03,800
So the self-description of mama bear
as an excuse...
1227
01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:07,040
not flying.
1228
01:05:08,200 --> 01:05:10,000
If what happened at the retreat
1229
01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:15,800
was anywhere near the vicinity
of what we saw last night,
1230
01:05:15,880 --> 01:05:21,720
I can certainly see how your friends
were intimidated by you
1231
01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:24,960
and did not want to step in.
1232
01:05:25,040 --> 01:05:27,800
You know, there's a saying
in Spanish...
1233
01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:29,920
(SPEAKS SPANISH)
1234
01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:39,240
What that means is the road to hell
is paved by good intentions.
1235
01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:43,880
I don't doubt your good intentions,
Jamie. I really don't.
1236
01:05:43,960 --> 01:05:47,160
But people need to be able to have
differing opinions.
1237
01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:48,480
They need to be able to be heard,
1238
01:05:48,560 --> 01:05:51,800
they need to be able to not feel
drowned out and shut up.
1239
01:05:54,480 --> 01:05:57,920
It is interesting
in the entire situation
1240
01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:03,560
that the woman who was
originally hurtful, Lauren,
1241
01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:07,440
clearly didn't end up being the
person most hurt in this situation.
1242
01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:14,160
And she's not even here in the room.
1243
01:06:16,600 --> 01:06:18,720
She wasn't here last night
1244
01:06:18,800 --> 01:06:20,320
when everybody
was chewing each other out.
1245
01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:25,680
Seems almost like her goal
was achieved.
1246
01:06:25,720 --> 01:06:27,360
(TENSE MUSIC)
1247
01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:29,720
She won.
1248
01:06:32,160 --> 01:06:34,680
She came out on top, no?
MEL: Mmm.
1249
01:06:39,040 --> 01:06:41,120
How do you feel at this moment
1250
01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:44,000
about everything
that's been said here tonight
1251
01:06:44,080 --> 01:06:46,840
about your behaviour
and your choices?
1252
01:06:48,240 --> 01:06:52,560
I think it's just, like,
now I'm feeling embarrassed.
1253
01:06:54,280 --> 01:06:55,920
Like, ashamed.
1254
01:06:55,960 --> 01:07:00,760
I feel like I've let Dave down...
1255
01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:05,160
like I've let myself down.
1256
01:07:05,240 --> 01:07:07,040
I was on, like,
such a good trajectory.
1257
01:07:07,120 --> 01:07:12,360
Like, essentially, I'm calling out
bad behaviour
1258
01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:14,880
and then I took it
and multiplied it by 1,000.
1259
01:07:14,960 --> 01:07:18,600
It's like, well, if you can be that,
I can do it better, essentially.
1260
01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:27,640
And because I just couldn't process
the hurt in a healthy way,
1261
01:07:27,720 --> 01:07:31,560
it came out in a really nasty way
towards other people.
1262
01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:38,480
Carina, especially.
1263
01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:42,080
I said...
1264
01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:49,040
The things I did say to you
were completely unacceptable
1265
01:07:49,080 --> 01:07:50,240
and I know that.
1266
01:07:50,280 --> 01:07:53,040
My behaviour was unacceptable.
1267
01:07:54,720 --> 01:07:57,000
1,000%.
1268
01:07:57,040 --> 01:08:01,720
I'm sorry how I spoke to you,
1269
01:08:01,760 --> 01:08:04,680
conducted myself, my aggression,
1270
01:08:04,760 --> 01:08:07,680
just everything,
the comments, the demeanour.
1271
01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:12,280
And I'm sorry I made you feel
stupid, less than,
1272
01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:16,200
unimportant or small
or you wanted to remove yourself.
1273
01:08:19,200 --> 01:08:21,520
That is... That is my behaviour
that was wrong.
1274
01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:22,680
And I'm sorry.
1275
01:08:22,720 --> 01:08:24,440
Thank you, Jamie.
1276
01:08:32,280 --> 01:08:36,000
I really appreciate
that apology to Carina.
1277
01:08:36,040 --> 01:08:37,880
I'm in the wrong.
1278
01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:39,520
Like, I'm in the wrong
1279
01:08:39,600 --> 01:08:43,080
and as much as I wanted
to walk out last night,
1280
01:08:43,120 --> 01:08:44,960
like, you know, big ego...
1281
01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:47,080
And that's the thing,
unfortunately -
1282
01:08:47,160 --> 01:08:51,200
like, my hurt does put me in
a corner where I come out swinging.
1283
01:08:53,560 --> 01:08:55,440
I've been hurt so many times
1284
01:08:55,520 --> 01:08:58,800
that my natural response
is to come forward with aggression
1285
01:08:58,880 --> 01:09:03,640
and protect myself and hurt someone
as much as I can that's hurt me.
1286
01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:05,200
And it's wrong.
1287
01:09:05,280 --> 01:09:08,080
And it's something
I haven't had to do in years
1288
01:09:08,160 --> 01:09:11,880
and, like, the fact
that I'm even in this place...
1289
01:09:13,840 --> 01:09:16,560
is just really disappointing.
1290
01:09:17,840 --> 01:09:21,960
Lauren said
some really, really horrible things.
1291
01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:25,160
That is not lost on me.
1292
01:09:25,240 --> 01:09:28,440
It's not lost on any of us.
Of course. It's not.
1293
01:09:28,520 --> 01:09:33,640
I do understand and also like many
people in the group,
1294
01:09:33,720 --> 01:09:36,600
do not agree with the things
that Lauren was saying.
1295
01:09:36,680 --> 01:09:39,520
I understand how that can get under
someone's skin.
1296
01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:44,320
I understand how offended many of you
must have felt.
1297
01:09:44,360 --> 01:09:48,920
Of course, that is understandable.
1298
01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:52,760
She was conducting herself horribly.
1299
01:09:54,160 --> 01:09:57,400
But when you see somebody
conduct themselves horribly
1300
01:09:57,480 --> 01:10:01,160
and are impacted by
that horrible behaviour,
1301
01:10:01,240 --> 01:10:05,880
perhaps emulating that
and bringing it to the nth degree
1302
01:10:05,920 --> 01:10:07,360
is not the way to go.
1303
01:10:11,320 --> 01:10:15,240
In that fight, simply because of
the way that you were doing things,
1304
01:10:15,280 --> 01:10:18,200
the point is missed.
1305
01:10:19,960 --> 01:10:21,400
You never win.
1306
01:10:24,240 --> 01:10:26,560
You become worse
than the perpetrator.
1307
01:10:35,720 --> 01:10:40,080
Jamie, when it comes to
your relationship with Dave...
1308
01:10:41,840 --> 01:10:44,640
and I guess the experiences
that you've had this week
1309
01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:46,640
which have been very intense...
1310
01:10:49,120 --> 01:10:51,680
how are you feeling at the moment?
1311
01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:55,440
Well, even though this has, like,
been a really tough couch session,
1312
01:10:55,520 --> 01:10:58,640
I still have loved this experiment
with him.
1313
01:10:58,680 --> 01:11:00,840
And not to sound cliched
1314
01:11:00,920 --> 01:11:04,040
but, like, the retreat
has brought us closer together,
1315
01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:06,360
because you saw me with so much hurt
1316
01:11:06,400 --> 01:11:11,040
and your instinct was to protect me
1317
01:11:11,120 --> 01:11:14,040
and I appreciate everything
you've done for me
1318
01:11:14,080 --> 01:11:15,880
and the support I've received.
1319
01:11:15,960 --> 01:11:18,520
So I think,
for the first time in my life,
1320
01:11:18,560 --> 01:11:20,920
I just get to feel the good feels
1321
01:11:21,000 --> 01:11:25,240
and keep on experiencing
all this amazing joy that we have
1322
01:11:25,320 --> 01:11:27,880
within our little home
and within this experiment.
1323
01:11:27,960 --> 01:11:30,760
Like, we truly are having
the best experiment.
1324
01:11:32,640 --> 01:11:37,800
And so, I kind of saw
an opportunity...
1325
01:11:40,280 --> 01:11:42,720
I covered his mouth and I said,
"I'm gonna say something"
1326
01:11:42,800 --> 01:11:44,000
"and I don't want you
to say anything..."
1327
01:11:47,000 --> 01:11:49,520
and I said "I love you.
Like, I really love you.
1328
01:11:51,160 --> 01:11:53,200
"Now, goodnight."
And I told him to go to bed.
1329
01:11:54,640 --> 01:11:56,000
That's very big.
1330
01:11:57,880 --> 01:12:00,160
I was trying to keep it
buried inside me.
1331
01:12:02,080 --> 01:12:04,160
But I'm not gonna suppress
how I feel.
1332
01:12:17,880 --> 01:12:19,720
So, you haven't said it back?
1333
01:12:24,000 --> 01:12:25,320
No.
1334
01:12:27,320 --> 01:12:30,640
Do you feel that's a place
where you can see yourself landing?
1335
01:12:30,720 --> 01:12:35,400
I mean, this experiment, like,
we've really done it properly.
1336
01:12:35,480 --> 01:12:40,360
Like, we have. And I don't think
you can do this...
1337
01:12:40,440 --> 01:12:42,800
you can do this properly
and not fall in love.
1338
01:12:48,240 --> 01:12:49,840
Um...
1339
01:12:49,880 --> 01:12:51,880
I want to own my feelings...
1340
01:12:53,640 --> 01:12:58,240
and I'm...
I am in tune with his emotions.
1341
01:12:58,280 --> 01:13:00,480
I understand what's going on here.
1342
01:13:00,520 --> 01:13:03,520
(DRAMATIC MUSIC)
1343
01:13:05,600 --> 01:13:10,880
And so, he gives me enough assurance
and security
1344
01:13:10,960 --> 01:13:15,600
where I know that
that is within him
1345
01:13:15,640 --> 01:13:17,800
and it is gonna come to the surface,
1346
01:13:17,880 --> 01:13:19,840
but I'm also patient
and understanding.
1347
01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:24,760
(DRAMATIC MUSIC)
1348
01:13:38,200 --> 01:13:40,160
I think we're gonna go
to the decision.
1349
01:13:43,760 --> 01:13:46,960
I'm so pleased. (LAUGHS)
I want to get off this couch.
1350
01:13:47,000 --> 01:13:48,800
Let's see.
1351
01:13:48,840 --> 01:13:52,760
(TENSE MUSIC)
1352
01:13:55,360 --> 01:13:56,760
Yeah, I'm staying.
1353
01:13:58,800 --> 01:14:02,240
I also have decided to stay,
which may come as a shock.
1354
01:14:02,280 --> 01:14:04,320
Um...
1355
01:14:04,360 --> 01:14:05,760
So, yeah.
1356
01:14:05,840 --> 01:14:08,400
Have a great week.
Thank you, guys.
1357
01:14:08,480 --> 01:14:09,920
You can go back to the group.
Thank you.
1358
01:14:09,960 --> 01:14:12,800
(APPLAUSE)
1359
01:14:12,840 --> 01:14:15,840
(DRAMATIC MUSIC)
1360
01:14:32,480 --> 01:14:34,800
NARRATOR: Tomorrow night...
(KNOCKING)
1361
01:14:34,880 --> 01:14:37,840
Oh, my god.
What?
1362
01:14:38,720 --> 01:14:41,800
Are you... Are you lying?
What's happening?
1363
01:14:41,880 --> 01:14:45,720
..the experiment enters
a critical new phase.
1364
01:14:45,760 --> 01:14:47,480
We have decided to bring back
1365
01:14:47,560 --> 01:14:50,840
a polarising element
of feedback week.
1366
01:14:50,880 --> 01:14:52,360
The partner swap.
1367
01:14:52,440 --> 01:14:57,360
Over two big nights, feedback week
will see temporary new pairings...
1368
01:14:57,400 --> 01:14:58,520
Honey, I'm home.
1369
01:14:58,600 --> 01:15:01,400
RHI: "Jacqui will pack her bags
and move in with Jeff."
1370
01:15:01,480 --> 01:15:05,160
TEEJAY: "Beth will pack her bags
and move in with Ryan."
1371
01:15:05,240 --> 01:15:08,480
..as these new combinations
offer fresh perspective.
1372
01:15:08,560 --> 01:15:11,800
ELIOT: Rhi and Jeff, I see them
as kind of a model couple.
1373
01:15:11,880 --> 01:15:13,440
Maybe there's something
I can learn from this.
1374
01:15:13,520 --> 01:15:16,800
While some embrace feedback
week and the partner swap...
1375
01:15:16,840 --> 01:15:18,680
That's really constructive.
1376
01:15:18,760 --> 01:15:23,600
"Do you honestly think Dave and I
will last beyond this experiment?"
1377
01:15:23,640 --> 01:15:24,720
No.
1378
01:15:26,480 --> 01:15:29,640
..others will be put
to the ultimate test.
1379
01:15:29,720 --> 01:15:31,840
CARINA: I don't want to be
doing this.
1380
01:15:31,920 --> 01:15:35,560
What threatens to derail
Paul's marriage to Carina?
1381
01:15:35,640 --> 01:15:38,160
Wow.
That is so wrong!
1382
01:15:41,400 --> 01:15:43,360
PAUL: I'm quite scared
of how she's gonna react.
1383
01:15:47,440 --> 01:15:50,400
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