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I thought, 14 00:01:17,333 --> 00:01:19,750 "She's definitely not wearing any underwear now." 15 00:01:19,750 --> 00:01:21,959 ♪ Girls on film... ♪ 16 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:23,583 Every time you tried to move, 17 00:01:23,583 --> 00:01:26,542 there would be 200 teenage girls trying to rip you apart. 18 00:01:29,625 --> 00:01:31,792 Duran Duran is my life. 19 00:01:31,792 --> 00:01:34,542 Waiting for them outside of BBC... 20 00:01:34,542 --> 00:01:37,125 They never noticed me. 21 00:01:38,625 --> 00:01:41,125 Nobody really wanted to give you credit for the fact 22 00:01:41,125 --> 00:01:43,959 that everybody was a great musician. 23 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:47,125 I feel like Duran Duran is my second band. 24 00:01:47,125 --> 00:01:48,792 ♪ Her name is Rio... ♪ 25 00:01:48,792 --> 00:01:52,083 The demands on us had become absurd. 26 00:01:52,083 --> 00:01:54,458 It's like one of those rat wheels isn't it? 27 00:01:54,458 --> 00:01:57,458 And you just gotta be King Rat sometimes and say, 28 00:01:57,458 --> 00:01:59,333 "Bollocks. I'm jumping off." 29 00:01:59,333 --> 00:02:01,417 The atmosphere was completely toxic. 30 00:02:01,417 --> 00:02:03,125 We'd just had a few years of, 31 00:02:03,125 --> 00:02:04,875 like, "'80s band, '80s band." 32 00:02:04,875 --> 00:02:07,208 I think they just saw the boat going the other way 33 00:02:07,208 --> 00:02:10,750 down the river with all their money on it. 34 00:02:10,750 --> 00:02:14,000 Imagine to be in a band like Duran Duran 35 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,000 and have the career that they've had. 36 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,333 That's, like, the ultimate dream. 37 00:02:18,333 --> 00:02:21,208 ♪ No-No-Notorious... ♪ 38 00:02:38,750 --> 00:02:40,709 For me, all of our albums 39 00:02:40,709 --> 00:02:43,667 define different stages in our career. 40 00:02:43,667 --> 00:02:46,375 The first album was our game plan. 41 00:02:47,875 --> 00:02:50,250 ♪ Only came outside ♪ 42 00:02:50,250 --> 00:02:53,291 ♪ To watch the night fall with the rain... ♪ 43 00:02:55,917 --> 00:02:57,750 The way we are on that first album, 44 00:02:57,750 --> 00:03:00,542 we're all playing the best that we could play, 45 00:03:00,542 --> 00:03:02,959 and we're all just playing every note we know. 46 00:03:02,959 --> 00:03:08,208 ♪ Some New Romantic looking for the TV sound... ♪ 47 00:03:08,208 --> 00:03:12,208 "Planet Earth" was the energy of rock music and punk, 48 00:03:12,208 --> 00:03:14,333 and strong melody. 49 00:03:14,333 --> 00:03:15,709 We all loved melodies, 50 00:03:15,709 --> 00:03:17,792 good songs, that was what it was about. 51 00:03:17,792 --> 00:03:20,375 ♪ Look now, look all around ♪ 52 00:03:22,250 --> 00:03:24,375 ♪ There's no sign of life ♪ 53 00:03:24,375 --> 00:03:27,750 ♪ Voices, another sound ♪ 54 00:03:29,458 --> 00:03:32,750 ♪ Can you hear me now? ♪ 55 00:03:34,750 --> 00:03:37,166 -Ooh, it smells old. -Jesus! 56 00:03:39,083 --> 00:03:40,500 The Decrepids. 57 00:03:43,166 --> 00:03:45,041 Oh-- Oh, come on, Rodge. 58 00:03:45,041 --> 00:03:46,375 Come on. Let's get cozy. 59 00:03:46,375 --> 00:03:49,375 -Snuggle up in the back. -Put your seat belt on. 60 00:03:49,375 --> 00:03:51,417 Well, if you're driving, I will. 61 00:03:51,417 --> 00:03:53,583 -He's actually driving it? -Oh, no. 62 00:03:53,583 --> 00:03:55,000 That's what I said. 63 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:57,375 I'm in the danger seat. You're fine there. 64 00:03:57,375 --> 00:04:00,375 So it appears that in here... 65 00:04:00,375 --> 00:04:01,917 our very first demo, 66 00:04:01,917 --> 00:04:04,917 in Birmingham, for our first album. 67 00:04:06,917 --> 00:04:09,625 -It's "Faster Than Light." -It is. 68 00:04:09,625 --> 00:04:10,792 Oh, wow. 69 00:04:15,709 --> 00:04:17,709 -♪ The light ♪ -♪ Faster than light ♪ 70 00:04:17,709 --> 00:04:21,166 -♪ The light ♪ -♪ Faster than light... ♪ 71 00:04:24,041 --> 00:04:26,709 I think the last time we were in a Citroen was probably, 72 00:04:26,709 --> 00:04:31,333 together, maybe 1982? 73 00:04:31,333 --> 00:04:33,667 I don't know how we came across the first Citroen, 74 00:04:33,667 --> 00:04:36,291 but it was, like, the perfect car for Duran Duran. 75 00:04:36,291 --> 00:04:39,834 It was super fast and it was super comfortable. 76 00:04:39,834 --> 00:04:42,041 I don't remember where we got the first one from. 77 00:04:42,041 --> 00:04:44,542 -We bought the second one. -Buying the second one 78 00:04:44,542 --> 00:04:47,500 was a major commitment to success. 79 00:04:47,500 --> 00:04:49,125 We don't know what else is on here. 80 00:04:49,125 --> 00:04:50,500 Let's have a look. 81 00:04:56,333 --> 00:04:58,875 -Andy's playing was-- -The car's shaking. 82 00:05:00,417 --> 00:05:03,500 Andy's playing was very economical, wasn't it? 83 00:05:03,500 --> 00:05:05,333 Oh, yeah, but that was so great. 84 00:05:05,333 --> 00:05:08,834 -He played essential guitar. -Yeah. 85 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,041 That's a loud vocal. Wow. 86 00:05:13,041 --> 00:05:15,500 I hate-- The vocal's horrible. 87 00:05:15,500 --> 00:05:17,875 -It's so loud. -Horrible vocal! 88 00:05:17,875 --> 00:05:19,709 Stop it! 89 00:05:26,041 --> 00:05:28,500 White riot, I wanna riot ♪ 90 00:05:28,500 --> 00:05:31,166 ♪ White riot, a riot of our own... ♪ 91 00:05:31,166 --> 00:05:32,333 Aah! 92 00:05:36,125 --> 00:05:38,709 We really became brothers. 93 00:05:38,709 --> 00:05:42,250 We were both single kids. we didn't have any siblings. 94 00:05:42,250 --> 00:05:44,875 We lived a few hundred meters away from each other 95 00:05:44,875 --> 00:05:47,417 in Hollywood, Birmingham. 96 00:05:47,417 --> 00:05:50,667 There was a lot of other kids at school that loved music. 97 00:05:50,667 --> 00:05:53,583 But not as much as we did. Or that's what we thought. 98 00:06:01,041 --> 00:06:02,875 Blondie, Talking Heads, 99 00:06:02,875 --> 00:06:05,792 Patti Smith, Roxy Music... 100 00:06:05,792 --> 00:06:07,709 we saw lots and lots of times. 101 00:06:07,709 --> 00:06:10,959 I took John to his first concert. 102 00:06:10,959 --> 00:06:14,166 It was in April 1974, 103 00:06:14,166 --> 00:06:16,583 and it was actually Mick Ronson. 104 00:06:16,583 --> 00:06:20,750 And it cost us £1.35 each. 105 00:06:20,750 --> 00:06:22,000 Every time we went to a show, 106 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:24,083 John and I used to count the trucks 107 00:06:24,083 --> 00:06:26,917 outside at the back of the show and figure out 108 00:06:26,917 --> 00:06:30,208 how many lights they had and how much sound, and think 109 00:06:30,208 --> 00:06:33,125 how many we needed to make what we were gonna do happen. 110 00:06:38,750 --> 00:06:41,000 My dad was a manual worker. 111 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:42,750 My dad worked at the Rover. 112 00:06:42,750 --> 00:06:45,333 So it was very much expected 113 00:06:45,333 --> 00:06:47,917 that I would remain a manual worker. 114 00:06:50,458 --> 00:06:52,583 I didn't think it was a great way of life. 115 00:06:52,583 --> 00:06:54,208 I wanted to do something different. 116 00:06:54,208 --> 00:06:56,917 I had this dream of being in a band. 117 00:06:58,959 --> 00:07:01,667 Birmingham was a very small world in those days, 118 00:07:01,667 --> 00:07:04,625 and anybody who was kind of any good, 119 00:07:04,625 --> 00:07:06,959 you know, you'd hear about. 120 00:07:06,959 --> 00:07:10,917 So I think that John and Nick had heard about me, 121 00:07:10,917 --> 00:07:12,875 and I'd heard about Duran Duran. 122 00:07:14,333 --> 00:07:16,667 We were rehearsing at this... 123 00:07:16,667 --> 00:07:19,166 this squat in Cheapside. 124 00:07:19,166 --> 00:07:20,291 It was kind of like 125 00:07:20,291 --> 00:07:21,959 the armpit of Birmingham down here. 126 00:07:21,959 --> 00:07:24,166 This is really, it's the spiritual home 127 00:07:24,166 --> 00:07:26,834 of Duran Duran right here. 128 00:07:26,834 --> 00:07:29,125 Roger is the most likable person 129 00:07:29,125 --> 00:07:30,667 you'll ever meet in this business. 130 00:07:30,667 --> 00:07:33,458 You know, and right away we clicked. 131 00:07:33,458 --> 00:07:37,000 Just set my drums up and started jamming, 132 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,667 and they said, "Come back next week," 133 00:07:39,667 --> 00:07:42,000 so I must have got the gig, you know. 134 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:44,834 So this is really my moment, 135 00:07:44,834 --> 00:07:47,083 is just walking through that door right there. 136 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:54,208 ♪ Outside ♪ 137 00:07:55,417 --> 00:07:57,667 ♪ Is there anyone out there? ♪ 138 00:07:57,667 --> 00:08:02,166 At 19 years old, it was like walking into a space rocket. 139 00:08:02,166 --> 00:08:03,583 It took me all over the world, 140 00:08:03,583 --> 00:08:05,709 and kind of everything that I have, 141 00:08:05,709 --> 00:08:08,583 really, that's good in life 142 00:08:08,583 --> 00:08:11,208 is a result of walking through that... 143 00:08:11,208 --> 00:08:13,583 through that door there. 144 00:08:13,583 --> 00:08:15,458 ♪ Look out of the window ♪ 145 00:08:15,458 --> 00:08:18,333 ♪ Baby, you can call by my name... ♪ 146 00:08:18,333 --> 00:08:20,291 Birmingham at that time 147 00:08:20,291 --> 00:08:22,458 might as well have been the center of the world. 148 00:08:22,458 --> 00:08:23,792 I don't feel like-- 149 00:08:23,792 --> 00:08:25,208 It was the center of our world, wasn't it? 150 00:08:25,208 --> 00:08:26,625 I don't feel like we ever thought, 151 00:08:26,625 --> 00:08:28,458 "Oh, man, I wish we lived in London." 152 00:08:35,917 --> 00:08:38,542 The Rum Runner was like the sort of premier 153 00:08:38,542 --> 00:08:39,917 New Romantic club 154 00:08:39,917 --> 00:08:41,875 in Birmingham where everybody went. 155 00:08:41,875 --> 00:08:44,166 It had this really big kind of entrance 156 00:08:44,166 --> 00:08:47,875 that was like a big corridor that was almost like a catwalk. 157 00:08:48,917 --> 00:08:50,917 It really was just about showing off. 158 00:08:50,917 --> 00:08:54,083 It was about going out, getting your photo taken. 159 00:08:54,083 --> 00:08:56,041 It was just about getting attention. 160 00:08:58,875 --> 00:09:01,583 This is where we found somewhere to rehearse. 161 00:09:01,583 --> 00:09:04,041 This is where we found our management. 162 00:09:04,041 --> 00:09:06,750 This is where we found Andy. 163 00:09:06,750 --> 00:09:08,792 This is where we found Simon. 164 00:09:08,792 --> 00:09:11,750 This was like our Cavern, in a way. 165 00:09:15,542 --> 00:09:17,166 So I guess within about a month 166 00:09:17,166 --> 00:09:18,834 of having gone to the Rum Runner, 167 00:09:18,834 --> 00:09:21,333 suddenly it's Nick, me and Rodge, 168 00:09:21,333 --> 00:09:22,875 and now we're planning world domination, 169 00:09:22,875 --> 00:09:24,750 although we don't have a guitar player and a singer, 170 00:09:24,750 --> 00:09:28,792 but this is, like, the-- this is the core. 171 00:09:28,792 --> 00:09:30,917 We were looking for a guitar player 172 00:09:30,917 --> 00:09:33,417 that could play, like, Nile Rodgers funk, 173 00:09:33,417 --> 00:09:35,583 but could play, like, Mick Ronson lead, 174 00:09:35,583 --> 00:09:38,333 and there weren't that many who could do that. 175 00:09:38,333 --> 00:09:41,417 Andy came down from Newcastle. 176 00:09:41,417 --> 00:09:44,959 We joke about his style, you know, 177 00:09:44,959 --> 00:09:47,625 'cause that wasn't his thing, but he thought about music, 178 00:09:47,625 --> 00:09:50,667 and he just right away brought-- he took us to another level. 179 00:09:52,667 --> 00:09:54,542 ♪ Da-da, da-da ♪ 180 00:09:57,792 --> 00:10:01,917 ♪ Groovin' now to X-Ray Spex... ♪ 181 00:10:01,917 --> 00:10:05,500 We all had jobs here doing different things. 182 00:10:05,500 --> 00:10:07,125 Nick got the DJ job, 183 00:10:07,125 --> 00:10:10,834 John worked on the door, I worked behind the bar. 184 00:10:10,834 --> 00:10:14,542 and I remember Simon comes walking down one day, 185 00:10:14,542 --> 00:10:16,375 and that was our first meeting. 186 00:10:16,375 --> 00:10:18,458 When he said his name was Simon Le Bon, 187 00:10:18,458 --> 00:10:20,792 we sort of didn't believe that was his real name, 188 00:10:20,792 --> 00:10:23,792 but anyway, turned out it was. 189 00:10:23,792 --> 00:10:26,208 And he had a lyric book with him. 190 00:10:26,208 --> 00:10:28,041 Well, this was the holy grail. 191 00:10:28,041 --> 00:10:30,417 There were things in there, and we started reading through. 192 00:10:30,417 --> 00:10:34,291 Wow! This would be perfect if only he can sing. 193 00:10:34,291 --> 00:10:37,583 ♪ All alone ain't much fun ♪ 194 00:10:37,583 --> 00:10:41,875 ♪ So you're looking for the thrill... ♪ 195 00:10:41,875 --> 00:10:45,583 When he started singing, it was crazy. 196 00:10:45,583 --> 00:10:47,333 It was just one of those 197 00:10:47,333 --> 00:10:51,291 fantastic "Eureka!" moments. 198 00:10:51,291 --> 00:10:56,250 ♪ Don't say a prayer for me now ♪ 199 00:10:56,250 --> 00:10:58,959 ♪ Save it till the morning after ♪ 200 00:10:58,959 --> 00:11:04,333 ♪ No, don't say a prayer for me now ♪ 201 00:11:04,333 --> 00:11:09,375 ♪ Save it till the morning after... ♪ 202 00:11:11,500 --> 00:11:13,041 I thought, this guy's a star. 203 00:11:13,041 --> 00:11:15,000 He was tall, he was well put together, 204 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:16,500 and he was really smart. 205 00:11:16,500 --> 00:11:18,542 I mean, he's a poet, Simon, you know? 206 00:11:18,542 --> 00:11:22,083 So at that time particularly, he was always writing words. 207 00:11:22,083 --> 00:11:23,709 The gold dust of the music business 208 00:11:23,709 --> 00:11:24,875 is words on paper. 209 00:11:24,875 --> 00:11:26,750 Whatever anybody else will tell you 210 00:11:26,750 --> 00:11:29,458 about grooves or notes, it's all about those lyrics. 211 00:11:29,458 --> 00:11:31,375 ♪ Any other day ♪ 212 00:11:31,375 --> 00:11:35,125 ♪ You might have gone walking by ♪ 213 00:11:36,458 --> 00:11:39,250 ♪ Without a second look ♪ 214 00:11:41,208 --> 00:11:43,208 ♪ Any other way ♪ 215 00:11:43,208 --> 00:11:46,417 ♪ But I'm still mystified ♪ 216 00:11:48,041 --> 00:11:50,959 ♪ I'm just trying to change my luck ♪ 217 00:11:52,583 --> 00:11:55,417 ♪ Staring at the world... ♪ 218 00:11:55,417 --> 00:11:58,250 I'm going to take you to the church, 219 00:11:58,250 --> 00:12:00,792 'cause we're gonna go and see Mr. Turvey... 220 00:12:02,500 --> 00:12:05,000 my old choir master. 221 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:08,583 ♪ And nobody knows ♪ 222 00:12:08,583 --> 00:12:13,750 ♪ What's gonna happen tomorrow... ♪ 223 00:12:13,750 --> 00:12:16,792 This is the beautiful... 224 00:12:16,792 --> 00:12:19,834 Church of St. John the Baptist, Pinner. 225 00:12:19,834 --> 00:12:23,917 This is where I was a choirboy for four years. 226 00:12:23,917 --> 00:12:28,041 This place had a huge effect on my musical development. 227 00:12:28,041 --> 00:12:30,083 I grew to love church music 228 00:12:30,083 --> 00:12:33,959 and the intricacies of it and the harmonies. 229 00:12:33,959 --> 00:12:36,166 Hello. Long time. 230 00:12:36,166 --> 00:12:38,291 -Nice to see you. -It's been many years. 231 00:12:38,291 --> 00:12:42,667 So this is where I spent a lot of time sitting. 232 00:12:42,667 --> 00:12:44,792 Right here. Yeah. 233 00:12:44,792 --> 00:12:47,500 There'd be somebody there who was better than me. 234 00:12:47,500 --> 00:12:49,542 Until, for a very brief time, 235 00:12:49,542 --> 00:12:53,000 I became the one who sat...here. 236 00:12:54,083 --> 00:12:57,417 So this is myself and you, 237 00:12:57,417 --> 00:13:00,291 performing "O For the Wings of a Dove." 238 00:13:00,291 --> 00:13:02,000 In this particular place. 239 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,333 Yes, right. Right here. 240 00:13:04,333 --> 00:13:07,208 ♪ O for the wings ♪ 241 00:13:07,208 --> 00:13:10,834 ♪ For the wings of a dove ♪ 242 00:13:10,834 --> 00:13:13,834 -♪ Far away ♪ -Yeah. 243 00:13:13,834 --> 00:13:17,083 ♪ Far away would I rove ♪ 244 00:13:17,083 --> 00:13:19,875 I didn't quite get my breathing right there. 245 00:13:19,875 --> 00:13:22,000 I was running out of breath. 246 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:24,208 Yes. There's a long note coming up. 247 00:13:26,709 --> 00:13:30,083 -Yeah. Totally out of breath. -Yeah. 248 00:13:30,083 --> 00:13:32,875 -♪ Far away ♪ -That's it. 249 00:13:32,875 --> 00:13:35,667 ♪ Far away would I rove ♪ 250 00:13:35,667 --> 00:13:37,041 I'm a little bit ahead of the beat as well, 251 00:13:37,041 --> 00:13:38,500 - I think. - Just a fraction. 252 00:13:38,500 --> 00:13:40,750 That's something that I've worked 253 00:13:40,750 --> 00:13:43,750 for decades to try and overcome, actually. 254 00:13:43,750 --> 00:13:45,000 Yeah, mm-hmm. Yeah. 255 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:47,500 ♪ Far away ♪ 256 00:13:47,500 --> 00:13:50,667 -That's my favorite note in it. 257 00:13:50,667 --> 00:13:52,417 -That one. -You got it right that time. 258 00:13:52,417 --> 00:13:54,875 -Yeah. 259 00:14:11,417 --> 00:14:14,458 We thought we were so great, didn't we? 260 00:14:14,458 --> 00:14:16,792 We thought that we were gonna take over the world. 261 00:14:16,792 --> 00:14:19,083 But I don't think we were arrogant, though. 262 00:14:19,083 --> 00:14:20,750 Well, at the time, we were young. 263 00:14:20,750 --> 00:14:22,542 We were teenagers. I was 17. 264 00:14:22,542 --> 00:14:25,041 We were a lot more alike then. 265 00:14:25,041 --> 00:14:27,083 We were really birds of a feather, you know, 266 00:14:27,083 --> 00:14:29,583 and we had a-- and our dress, really, 267 00:14:29,583 --> 00:14:31,458 I think, helped define us in a way. 268 00:14:31,458 --> 00:14:33,875 Charlie, you had some theatrical things. 269 00:14:33,875 --> 00:14:37,458 There was some gray velvet thing that you had made. 270 00:14:37,458 --> 00:14:39,959 Gray velvet with purple slashing. 271 00:14:39,959 --> 00:14:41,709 It was right out of Midsummer Night's Dream. 272 00:14:41,709 --> 00:14:44,417 Yeah, it was. Oh, my goodness. 273 00:14:44,417 --> 00:14:46,250 -It had bells. -It had bells on it. 274 00:14:46,250 --> 00:14:48,542 You'd hear him coming down the corridor with bells. 275 00:14:48,542 --> 00:14:49,917 That was one of the things 276 00:14:49,917 --> 00:14:51,250 that was great about that period, actually. 277 00:14:51,250 --> 00:14:53,166 None of us were afraid of color. 278 00:14:53,166 --> 00:14:54,583 -Except Roger. -Apart from me. 279 00:14:54,583 --> 00:14:56,208 He just used to wear black. 280 00:14:56,208 --> 00:14:58,583 I was completely afraid of color. 281 00:15:04,041 --> 00:15:05,083 Yeah, yeah. 282 00:15:07,500 --> 00:15:11,250 You look like you should be in Wham! 283 00:15:11,250 --> 00:15:12,750 Very nice, Roger. 284 00:15:12,750 --> 00:15:15,166 Baby, I'm your man. 285 00:15:18,083 --> 00:15:21,333 - Ooh! -♪ Come fly with me ♪ 286 00:15:21,333 --> 00:15:23,500 I don't think we better go any deeper into here. 287 00:15:27,583 --> 00:15:29,917 Music at that time was kind of androgynous. 288 00:15:29,917 --> 00:15:31,959 There was this crossover, you know, 289 00:15:31,959 --> 00:15:34,917 between girls and boys wearing the same-- 290 00:15:34,917 --> 00:15:36,709 There were clothes that crossed over, 291 00:15:36,709 --> 00:15:38,166 and we kind of bought into that. 292 00:15:38,166 --> 00:15:39,959 -We found 'em. -Yeah, we did. 293 00:15:39,959 --> 00:15:42,667 We used to trawl the streets of Birmingham 294 00:15:42,667 --> 00:15:46,125 trying to find, uh, bits of clothing. 295 00:15:46,125 --> 00:15:48,041 Ladies' clothes that would fit us. 296 00:15:48,041 --> 00:15:50,333 Yes, but we-- Then it was easier, right? 297 00:15:53,291 --> 00:15:55,291 I can see you working the bumper cars in that outfit. 298 00:15:55,291 --> 00:15:57,208 -Yeah, really? Cheers. -I quite like that. 299 00:15:57,208 --> 00:15:58,625 Yeah, so do I. 300 00:15:58,625 --> 00:16:01,834 Italian Vogue. Old habit, you know. 301 00:16:01,834 --> 00:16:04,000 Uh... 302 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:05,959 We were out at dinner with Andy Warhol once, 303 00:16:05,959 --> 00:16:07,375 and somebody asked Andy, 304 00:16:07,375 --> 00:16:09,875 "Which do you think is the coolest Vogue?" 305 00:16:09,875 --> 00:16:13,333 And at the time, I'd made it as far as Paris Vogue, 306 00:16:13,333 --> 00:16:15,208 and I was really into Paris Vogue, and he said, 307 00:16:15,208 --> 00:16:17,667 "Oh, Italian Vogue, definitely." 308 00:16:17,667 --> 00:16:19,750 And we were like, "Italian Vogue? 309 00:16:19,750 --> 00:16:22,834 Is there one?" You know? 310 00:16:22,834 --> 00:16:24,417 Pictures of girls. 311 00:16:35,667 --> 00:16:38,166 I first met Duran Duran around 1980 312 00:16:38,166 --> 00:16:40,083 when they came into the shop. 313 00:16:40,083 --> 00:16:44,041 We became very good friends. They had the balls to run around 314 00:16:44,041 --> 00:16:45,917 with all the makeup and the hair. 315 00:16:45,917 --> 00:16:48,125 This lot didn't give a damn, 316 00:16:48,125 --> 00:16:50,542 and they'd worked out that women quite liked it. 317 00:16:50,542 --> 00:16:53,542 So when they came along, they were a breath of fresh air. 318 00:16:53,542 --> 00:16:56,792 This is from the year... 319 00:16:56,792 --> 00:16:59,000 -Well, that's probably from... -Well, when you first started. 320 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:00,166 1981. 321 00:17:04,166 --> 00:17:05,709 I think after the punk thing, 322 00:17:05,709 --> 00:17:07,041 military was still very much-- 323 00:17:07,041 --> 00:17:09,375 Military was very happening. 324 00:17:09,375 --> 00:17:11,709 But you, of course, broke the mold for that. 325 00:17:11,709 --> 00:17:14,542 You lot went in waist-deep into it 326 00:17:14,542 --> 00:17:18,458 ♪ I saw you at the air race yesterday ♪ 327 00:17:18,458 --> 00:17:22,000 ♪ April showers get out of my way... ♪ 328 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:25,333 You obviously kept all these over the years. 329 00:17:25,333 --> 00:17:28,500 -How many are there? -There's about 10,000 in all. 330 00:17:28,500 --> 00:17:31,458 This was actually worn in the "Planet Earth" video, 331 00:17:31,458 --> 00:17:33,583 along with one of your suits. 332 00:17:33,583 --> 00:17:37,083 The shirts were like this one, because they had to be. 333 00:17:37,083 --> 00:17:39,917 It's the low arm holes and all of the rest of it. 334 00:17:39,917 --> 00:17:42,000 That's your easy wear. 335 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:44,166 It wasn't easy wear on the number 50 bus 336 00:17:44,166 --> 00:17:45,417 from Birmingham. 337 00:17:45,417 --> 00:17:46,917 That's what New Romantic was: 338 00:17:46,917 --> 00:17:48,583 wearing that on the 50 bus. 339 00:17:48,583 --> 00:17:51,000 So this one was from 1983, 340 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:52,917 and that's from the front cover 341 00:17:52,917 --> 00:17:55,166 of the Seven and the Ragged Tiger album. 342 00:17:55,166 --> 00:17:57,208 This fabric's happening now big-time. 343 00:17:57,208 --> 00:17:59,083 It's everywhere on the catwalk. 344 00:17:59,083 --> 00:18:02,041 Well, then, only 37 years ahead of our time. 345 00:18:02,041 --> 00:18:04,291 I remember when you came to the shop. 346 00:18:04,291 --> 00:18:07,750 We came because when we finally got 347 00:18:07,750 --> 00:18:10,083 our advance from EMI records, 348 00:18:10,083 --> 00:18:12,583 and part of it was a clothing budget for-- 349 00:18:12,583 --> 00:18:14,291 Which you insisted on, of course. 350 00:18:14,291 --> 00:18:15,959 -Of course. -The first band to do that. 351 00:18:15,959 --> 00:18:18,250 No, the hard work was writing the songs 352 00:18:18,250 --> 00:18:19,834 and getting all of that right. 353 00:18:19,834 --> 00:18:21,333 -We know that. -Finally, when you get to 354 00:18:21,333 --> 00:18:23,333 sort of present it, that's the fun, 355 00:18:23,333 --> 00:18:25,041 sort of saying, "How are we going do this?" 356 00:18:25,041 --> 00:18:27,291 -Put it all in positions. -It ends up like this. 357 00:18:27,291 --> 00:18:29,000 There you go. 358 00:18:31,542 --> 00:18:33,792 Well, perfect for shopping in Oxford Street. 359 00:18:33,792 --> 00:18:37,166 These are the epitome of '80s over-the-top. 360 00:18:37,166 --> 00:18:39,959 -Really? You think so? -Oh, I think so, yeah. 361 00:18:39,959 --> 00:18:42,625 I mean, they're quite panto-y now, 362 00:18:42,625 --> 00:18:44,333 but at the time they were right, 363 00:18:44,333 --> 00:18:47,250 because they fused military with romance. 364 00:18:47,250 --> 00:18:50,333 We've got these corseted-back trousers here 365 00:18:50,333 --> 00:18:53,458 that were all laced up the back, 366 00:18:53,458 --> 00:18:55,500 and then these hanging jackets. 367 00:18:55,500 --> 00:18:58,667 -It's, uh, matador-ish. -Yeah, yeah. 368 00:18:58,667 --> 00:19:00,750 Somehow we managed to make it work 369 00:19:00,750 --> 00:19:04,750 because we all had such individual and personal taste. 370 00:19:04,750 --> 00:19:07,000 We could look at a rail of clothes now and say, 371 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:09,709 Roger's gonna like that, I'm gonna have that one, 372 00:19:09,709 --> 00:19:11,333 -John's gonna like that one. -Yeah, you could do that. 373 00:19:11,333 --> 00:19:12,792 - Most of the band-- -You were pretty right 374 00:19:12,792 --> 00:19:14,500 because you knew all their tastes 375 00:19:14,500 --> 00:19:15,750 even better than I did. 376 00:19:18,959 --> 00:19:21,125 Any band, if you think of anyone you-- 377 00:19:21,125 --> 00:19:24,041 anyone in history that's worth remembering, 378 00:19:24,041 --> 00:19:25,875 they all have an image. 379 00:19:25,875 --> 00:19:29,542 Elvis Presley, Madonna, Prince, Duran Duran. 380 00:19:29,542 --> 00:19:31,750 They were Birmingham's peacocks. 381 00:19:34,625 --> 00:19:36,709 There was this Smash Hits magazine, 382 00:19:36,709 --> 00:19:39,875 and suddenly nobody was reading any of the weeklies anymore. 383 00:19:39,875 --> 00:19:41,959 There were these, like, colored magazines 384 00:19:41,959 --> 00:19:43,291 that came out every week, 385 00:19:43,291 --> 00:19:44,583 and it was, like, perfect for Duran. 386 00:19:44,583 --> 00:19:46,333 It was like, "There's a John cover. 387 00:19:46,333 --> 00:19:48,709 It's a Roger cover. It's Simon and Nick." 388 00:19:48,709 --> 00:19:50,375 There was like an explosion, 389 00:19:50,375 --> 00:19:52,917 and we made ourselves very available to it. 390 00:20:05,709 --> 00:20:08,709 We went on tour behind Planet Earth, 391 00:20:08,709 --> 00:20:10,208 and we played Nottingham, 392 00:20:10,208 --> 00:20:12,583 and that show was reviewed in the NME, 393 00:20:12,583 --> 00:20:15,166 and it was the meanest review. 394 00:20:15,166 --> 00:20:17,583 "A Ripple in a Stagnant Pool" was the headline. 395 00:20:17,583 --> 00:20:19,333 I can still remember it to this day. 396 00:20:19,333 --> 00:20:22,083 And the last line in it was, "Duran Duran are gonna be huge, 397 00:20:22,083 --> 00:20:24,083 and they really don't deserve any of it." 398 00:20:24,083 --> 00:20:25,500 And I remember reading that, thinking, 399 00:20:25,500 --> 00:20:27,291 "That's so mean. Why?" 400 00:20:27,291 --> 00:20:29,500 You know, like, "Why?" 401 00:20:29,500 --> 00:20:32,917 And then we kind of knew that we were part of this, 402 00:20:32,917 --> 00:20:35,417 and that was probably after the Smash Hits cover. 403 00:20:35,417 --> 00:20:36,750 And it was like, 404 00:20:36,750 --> 00:20:39,250 so we were a threat to that institution, 405 00:20:39,250 --> 00:20:41,166 and they weren't gonna be nice to us, 406 00:20:41,166 --> 00:20:42,959 so we just had to swallow it. 407 00:20:42,959 --> 00:20:45,917 But the NME never, never-- 408 00:20:45,917 --> 00:20:49,959 And it bothered me up until about a year ago, I think. 409 00:20:52,208 --> 00:20:54,792 The first time I think that 410 00:20:54,792 --> 00:20:58,625 we recognized that something different was happening 411 00:20:58,625 --> 00:21:01,750 was when out of nowhere-- it was like a movie set, 412 00:21:01,750 --> 00:21:04,750 and we got completely mobbed. 413 00:21:04,750 --> 00:21:08,000 And we sensed that something had changed. 414 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:11,291 I'm desperate to know what it's like to be a pop star. 415 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:14,375 Do you think it's all full of fast cars, 416 00:21:14,375 --> 00:21:16,166 fast women, fast living? 417 00:21:16,166 --> 00:21:18,333 Well, that's probably part of it. 418 00:21:18,333 --> 00:21:20,458 -It is, yeah. But... 419 00:21:32,625 --> 00:21:34,000 I love boats. 420 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:35,959 I do have a boat a bit similar to this. 421 00:21:35,959 --> 00:21:39,375 It lives in a garage in Italy, where she was built. 422 00:21:42,166 --> 00:21:44,417 I think living the life was very much 423 00:21:44,417 --> 00:21:47,750 a sort of a part of the rock star lifestyle. 424 00:21:51,208 --> 00:21:53,375 We were objects of desire. 425 00:21:55,709 --> 00:21:58,583 And people wanted to 426 00:21:58,583 --> 00:22:00,500 have us at their parties. 427 00:22:00,500 --> 00:22:02,959 So there was a lot of that. 428 00:22:02,959 --> 00:22:04,792 ♪ See them walking hand in hand ♪ 429 00:22:04,792 --> 00:22:08,000 ♪ Across the bridge at midnight... ♪ 430 00:22:09,333 --> 00:22:11,291 Duran Duran were like-- it was glamorous. 431 00:22:11,291 --> 00:22:14,166 It was, like, hot, beautiful locations, 432 00:22:14,166 --> 00:22:17,417 leggy blondes, yachts and the limousines. 433 00:22:17,417 --> 00:22:19,375 It was aspirational, I think. 434 00:22:19,375 --> 00:22:21,000 That's why I think people liked it, 435 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:22,000 because it was like, 436 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:23,542 you can come from Birmingham, 437 00:22:23,542 --> 00:22:25,125 you can come from southeast London, 438 00:22:25,125 --> 00:22:27,041 but you can still have a glamorous life. 439 00:22:31,417 --> 00:22:34,959 I was just, like, perpetually excited in 1981. 440 00:22:34,959 --> 00:22:37,875 I mean, it was like-- I don't think I slept all year. 441 00:22:37,875 --> 00:22:41,250 I mean, it was just-- it was just so much fun. 442 00:22:41,250 --> 00:22:44,542 It was just... just this crazy adventure, 443 00:22:44,542 --> 00:22:46,542 and it never really stopped. 444 00:23:05,417 --> 00:23:07,083 It did become the album 445 00:23:07,083 --> 00:23:09,583 that was the most important in launching our career. 446 00:23:09,583 --> 00:23:15,083 ♪ You saw me standing by the wall ♪ 447 00:23:15,083 --> 00:23:17,959 ♪ Corner of a main street... ♪ 448 00:23:17,959 --> 00:23:20,417 I remember really being worried, 449 00:23:20,417 --> 00:23:22,000 just briefly, 450 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,125 that it wouldn't be as good as the first album. 451 00:23:24,125 --> 00:23:28,834 And I used to lay in my bed and listen to the album, 452 00:23:28,834 --> 00:23:32,750 and I rationed myself to two entire listens a night 453 00:23:32,750 --> 00:23:34,625 because I didn't want to wear it out. 454 00:23:34,625 --> 00:23:38,625 But I just loved it. I thought it was so great. 455 00:23:38,625 --> 00:23:41,333 -♪ Don't say a prayer 456 00:23:41,333 --> 00:23:43,709 ♪ For me now ♪ 457 00:23:43,709 --> 00:23:47,000 ♪ Save it till the morning after... ♪ 458 00:23:48,375 --> 00:23:50,917 Everyone has that record, 459 00:23:50,917 --> 00:23:53,458 and I think Rio was that record. 460 00:23:53,458 --> 00:23:55,709 It was the sort of thing that seals the deal. 461 00:23:55,709 --> 00:23:57,709 I remember the sleeve. 462 00:23:57,709 --> 00:24:00,792 I remember hearing the songs for the first time. 463 00:24:00,792 --> 00:24:02,667 And I think that Rio was the album 464 00:24:02,667 --> 00:24:06,500 that established Duran Duran as a kind of global super force, 465 00:24:06,500 --> 00:24:09,917 because it was like, "Okay, they can write songs." 466 00:24:09,917 --> 00:24:12,125 Rio was like a masterstroke. 467 00:24:12,125 --> 00:24:13,959 The image on the cover of that album 468 00:24:13,959 --> 00:24:17,500 so perfectly represents 469 00:24:17,500 --> 00:24:19,667 the sounds in the music. 470 00:24:19,667 --> 00:24:21,500 Whether you're Bowie or Kanye West, 471 00:24:21,500 --> 00:24:24,750 it doesn't matter, you're selling a fantasy. 472 00:24:29,834 --> 00:24:31,875 Here we have... 473 00:24:31,875 --> 00:24:35,333 the original Rio painting. 474 00:24:35,333 --> 00:24:38,333 Yes. Still smiling after all these years. 475 00:24:38,333 --> 00:24:41,333 For our second album we thought, 476 00:24:41,333 --> 00:24:44,166 "Why don't we stick a beautiful painting on the cover?" 477 00:24:44,166 --> 00:24:46,291 And actually, 478 00:24:46,291 --> 00:24:49,542 to the credit of Paul Berrow, one of our managers at the time, 479 00:24:49,542 --> 00:24:53,041 who was an avid reader of Playboy magazine, 480 00:24:53,041 --> 00:24:57,458 um, he spotted these beautiful illustrations 481 00:24:57,458 --> 00:25:00,709 done by a Californian artist called Patrick Nagel 482 00:25:00,709 --> 00:25:04,542 and brought them and said, "Chaps, do you like these?" 483 00:25:04,542 --> 00:25:06,875 And we looked and said, "Actually, yeah." 484 00:25:06,875 --> 00:25:10,792 They've got a real energy and a brightness, 485 00:25:10,792 --> 00:25:14,083 and they represented the period so well, 486 00:25:14,083 --> 00:25:17,667 it's become a symbol of that whole decade. 487 00:25:17,667 --> 00:25:20,125 But for us, she's got a very lucky smile 488 00:25:20,125 --> 00:25:22,709 because that period was amazing, and the Rio album 489 00:25:22,709 --> 00:25:25,625 was really what established us around the world. 490 00:25:47,917 --> 00:25:51,417 This was the home to Duran Duran in the '80s, 491 00:25:51,417 --> 00:25:53,834 when we were in Los Angeles. 492 00:25:53,834 --> 00:25:55,250 We've got all The Beatles here. 493 00:25:55,250 --> 00:25:58,083 We've got John, George, 494 00:25:58,083 --> 00:26:00,417 Ringo, and then Paul McCartney. 495 00:26:00,417 --> 00:26:02,166 I know I wouldn't be standing here 496 00:26:02,166 --> 00:26:03,792 without those guys. 497 00:26:03,792 --> 00:26:06,250 Then we go on to Buddy Holly, 498 00:26:06,250 --> 00:26:07,959 but then they probably wouldn't be there 499 00:26:07,959 --> 00:26:10,083 without Buddy Holly, so that's cool. 500 00:26:10,083 --> 00:26:13,709 Moving on. Tina Turner, and Tina Turner's bicycle, 501 00:26:13,709 --> 00:26:15,625 which is a permanent show here now. 502 00:26:15,625 --> 00:26:17,750 I'm getting a warm feeling. 503 00:26:17,750 --> 00:26:20,291 Capitol Recording artists Duran Duran. 504 00:26:21,667 --> 00:26:24,250 It's a big deal in terms of, like, 505 00:26:24,250 --> 00:26:26,250 where you're from, I guess. 506 00:26:26,250 --> 00:26:28,125 I don't think many of my schoolmates have got one. 507 00:26:28,125 --> 00:26:30,458 We got a lot of prizes in the early '80s. 508 00:26:30,458 --> 00:26:32,375 I took them for granted. I was like-- you know. 509 00:26:32,375 --> 00:26:36,208 But as I've gotten older, I've come to appreciate them, 510 00:26:36,208 --> 00:26:38,125 and display them, even. 511 00:26:38,125 --> 00:26:41,375 And I think to know where you come in the evolution 512 00:26:41,375 --> 00:26:44,333 of, uh, popular music, you know, 513 00:26:44,333 --> 00:26:47,041 contemporary culture, you know, that we've got a place-- 514 00:26:47,041 --> 00:26:49,959 we've got a place in that, it feels good. 515 00:26:57,333 --> 00:27:00,041 They were such a seminal band for me as a kid, you know. 516 00:27:00,041 --> 00:27:03,208 Like, I really loved them. They had great pop songs, 517 00:27:03,208 --> 00:27:04,834 great melody, great band. 518 00:27:04,834 --> 00:27:07,125 There's a reason that they sold 18 million records. 519 00:27:07,125 --> 00:27:10,250 They were just attuned to writing 520 00:27:10,250 --> 00:27:12,917 really universal, great songs. 521 00:27:12,917 --> 00:27:15,250 What's your first memory of being in this building? 522 00:27:15,250 --> 00:27:17,792 I'm not sure they ever really knew what to do with us. 523 00:27:17,792 --> 00:27:20,625 EMI in London just kept pressurizing Capitol 524 00:27:20,625 --> 00:27:24,625 into basically making more effort to break the band, 525 00:27:24,625 --> 00:27:27,917 and it was really with Rio that they said, 526 00:27:27,917 --> 00:27:29,834 "Look, you've got to make this happen." 527 00:27:29,834 --> 00:27:31,834 To me, definitely the first album 528 00:27:31,834 --> 00:27:34,667 had a lot of the seeds of what became, like, 529 00:27:34,667 --> 00:27:37,375 the iconic early Duran Duran sound, 530 00:27:37,375 --> 00:27:40,667 but Rio is probably-- and also just 'cause 531 00:27:40,667 --> 00:27:42,834 the level of songwriting just went like this. 532 00:27:42,834 --> 00:27:44,875 Do you feel like Rio is where you sort of forged 533 00:27:44,875 --> 00:27:47,000 -the Duran sound? -Definitely. 534 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,792 It was a development from the first-- 535 00:27:49,792 --> 00:27:52,458 All the basic ideas-- I mean, you just nailed it, 536 00:27:52,458 --> 00:27:54,959 the funky rhythm section, you know, 537 00:27:54,959 --> 00:27:58,083 sort of Moroder-esque synths, you know, 538 00:27:58,083 --> 00:28:00,458 but also that kind of-- that chunky rock guitar. 539 00:28:00,458 --> 00:28:02,166 -Yeah, Steve Jones guitars. -Yeah. 540 00:28:02,166 --> 00:28:04,542 And also, the other thing is, like, 541 00:28:04,542 --> 00:28:08,375 probably because your whole, you know, pin-ups 542 00:28:08,375 --> 00:28:10,250 and all this kind of thing at first, 543 00:28:10,250 --> 00:28:12,041 nobody really wanted to give you credit 544 00:28:12,041 --> 00:28:14,834 or the fact that everybody was a great musician. 545 00:28:14,834 --> 00:28:18,417 I think for all the excitement of the punk rock era, 546 00:28:18,417 --> 00:28:22,125 the post-punk era was really exciting too, 547 00:28:22,125 --> 00:28:24,041 because you had kids saying, "I want to be a bass player." 548 00:28:24,041 --> 00:28:26,583 Roger and I were like, "We wanna be a rhythm section." 549 00:28:26,583 --> 00:28:29,792 That sound, like, when I play "The Chauffeur" in my head, 550 00:28:29,792 --> 00:28:32,750 that sound of Roger's drums on top, 551 00:28:32,750 --> 00:28:35,542 locked into the sequence of whatever Nick was doing, 552 00:28:35,542 --> 00:28:38,250 and then you with that, is such an important part. 553 00:28:38,250 --> 00:28:39,834 I feel like "The Chauffeur," 554 00:28:39,834 --> 00:28:41,083 sonically and everything about it, 555 00:28:41,083 --> 00:28:42,583 if came out tomorrow and you said, 556 00:28:42,583 --> 00:28:45,208 "Oh, this is a new Killers tune," 557 00:28:45,208 --> 00:28:46,583 you would believe it. 558 00:28:46,583 --> 00:28:49,875 ♪ And watching lovers part ♪ 559 00:28:49,875 --> 00:28:52,917 ♪ I feel you smiling ♪ 560 00:28:52,917 --> 00:28:58,375 ♪ What glass splinters lie so deep in your mind? ♪ 561 00:28:58,375 --> 00:29:00,250 ♪ To tear out from your eyes ♪ 562 00:29:00,250 --> 00:29:04,166 ♪ With a thought to stiffen brooding lies ♪ 563 00:29:04,166 --> 00:29:08,458 ♪ And I'll only watch you leave me further behind... ♪ 564 00:29:08,458 --> 00:29:11,750 When we first came to New York, I remember our managers 565 00:29:11,750 --> 00:29:14,041 meeting with these guys 566 00:29:14,041 --> 00:29:16,625 that were putting MTV together, and they were like, 567 00:29:16,625 --> 00:29:18,291 "Look, we can't play 'Stairway to Heaven' all day, 568 00:29:18,291 --> 00:29:20,291 "like what happens on the radio. 569 00:29:20,291 --> 00:29:22,125 "We need to get more into new music, 570 00:29:22,125 --> 00:29:24,125 "and it'd be great if you could give us something really 571 00:29:24,125 --> 00:29:26,083 kind of like a James Bond film." 572 00:29:26,083 --> 00:29:28,125 -Right. -And our manager went away, 573 00:29:28,125 --> 00:29:31,750 and that's where the Sri Lanka video idea came from. 574 00:29:31,750 --> 00:29:34,750 ♪ In touch with the ground ♪ 575 00:29:34,750 --> 00:29:38,250 ♪ I'm on the hunt I'm after you ♪ 576 00:29:38,250 --> 00:29:41,875 ♪ Smell like I sound I'm lost in a crowd ♪ 577 00:29:41,875 --> 00:29:45,959 ♪ And I'm hungry like the wolf... ♪ 578 00:29:45,959 --> 00:29:51,125 MTV was, like, such a big part of my teenage life. 579 00:29:51,125 --> 00:29:54,041 I mean, that's how we got our music. 580 00:29:54,041 --> 00:29:59,917 And I think Duran Duran was such a perfect band 581 00:29:59,917 --> 00:30:01,917 for this new way 582 00:30:01,917 --> 00:30:06,125 that people were getting music, which was through television. 583 00:30:06,125 --> 00:30:10,291 ♪ Stalked in the forest too close to hide ♪ 584 00:30:10,291 --> 00:30:13,333 ♪ I'll be upon you by the moonlight side... ♪ 585 00:30:13,333 --> 00:30:17,166 They were really some of the pioneers in music videos. 586 00:30:17,166 --> 00:30:19,583 That was just the age where 587 00:30:19,583 --> 00:30:22,291 we didn't know what to expect, and anything could go. 588 00:30:22,291 --> 00:30:24,834 ♪ And your skin it's so tight ♪ 589 00:30:24,834 --> 00:30:27,500 ♪ You feel my heat I'm just a moment behind... ♪ 590 00:30:27,500 --> 00:30:29,917 There was something about it when we were there 591 00:30:29,917 --> 00:30:32,417 that we knew that it was new ground. 592 00:30:32,417 --> 00:30:34,166 It was very exotic. 593 00:30:34,166 --> 00:30:36,834 And we were very lucky to have Russell Mulcahy directing, 594 00:30:36,834 --> 00:30:39,875 because at that time, he was the guy. 595 00:30:39,875 --> 00:30:42,208 He had just done "Vienna" for Ultravox 596 00:30:42,208 --> 00:30:44,583 and all the coolest things that were out there, really. 597 00:30:44,583 --> 00:30:46,458 ♪ I'm lost and I'm found ♪ 598 00:30:46,458 --> 00:30:50,458 ♪ And I'm hungry like the wolf... ♪ 599 00:30:50,458 --> 00:30:51,959 With Duran, it was a bit 600 00:30:51,959 --> 00:30:54,041 like being a tourist with a big camera. 601 00:30:54,041 --> 00:30:57,583 ♪ I howl and I whine I'm after you... ♪ 602 00:30:57,583 --> 00:30:59,667 I had very much a cinematic vision, 603 00:30:59,667 --> 00:31:01,583 they had a vision with their music, 604 00:31:01,583 --> 00:31:04,458 and the managers had a vision about, "Let's make it big 605 00:31:04,458 --> 00:31:07,041 and-and stand out from the rest." 606 00:31:08,208 --> 00:31:11,542 We just wanted to raise the bar. 607 00:31:12,709 --> 00:31:14,041 On first glance, 608 00:31:14,041 --> 00:31:16,500 it looks like a guy chasing a girl. 609 00:31:16,500 --> 00:31:19,417 It's slightly uncomfortable, actually. 610 00:31:19,417 --> 00:31:21,750 But it's us chasing our career, 611 00:31:21,750 --> 00:31:25,166 trying to make it happen, and we were so hungry. 612 00:31:25,166 --> 00:31:27,375 We would chase and we would grab 613 00:31:27,375 --> 00:31:29,083 and we would achieve. 614 00:31:29,083 --> 00:31:31,667 And that is what that song's about. 615 00:31:31,667 --> 00:31:34,917 Then after that, the travelogue continued, 616 00:31:34,917 --> 00:31:39,083 and hence we ended up doing the "Rio" video in Antigua. 617 00:31:45,417 --> 00:31:47,625 That was wild. I mean, we sort of-- 618 00:31:47,625 --> 00:31:50,125 That one we actually just made up on the spot. 619 00:31:50,125 --> 00:31:53,083 I would say in the morning, "Okay, I need, um-- 620 00:31:53,083 --> 00:31:54,667 "I need a mirror, 621 00:31:54,667 --> 00:31:57,667 I need a bed, I want to put it on the beach." 622 00:31:59,625 --> 00:32:02,166 ♪ Moving on the floor now, babe ♪ 623 00:32:02,166 --> 00:32:06,250 ♪ You're a bird of paradise ♪ 624 00:32:06,250 --> 00:32:09,125 ♪ Cherry ice cream smile ♪ 625 00:32:09,125 --> 00:32:12,083 ♪ I suppose it's very nice... ♪ 626 00:32:12,083 --> 00:32:14,125 The classic shot eventually ended up being 627 00:32:14,125 --> 00:32:17,291 Simon at the front of the boat with the boys hanging off, 628 00:32:17,291 --> 00:32:20,291 and the cameraman was sitting at the top of the boat, 629 00:32:20,291 --> 00:32:22,458 on the-- whatever you call it-- 630 00:32:22,458 --> 00:32:25,166 with no harness, hand-held, 631 00:32:25,166 --> 00:32:28,083 hanging on to the thing like that. 632 00:32:28,083 --> 00:32:29,709 Song blasting away, 633 00:32:29,709 --> 00:32:32,417 the boys were all in their sort of tailored suits, 634 00:32:32,417 --> 00:32:35,041 very expensive suits, getting splashed with seawater, 635 00:32:35,041 --> 00:32:38,959 ruining the suits, of course, and we just had a lot of fun. 636 00:32:38,959 --> 00:32:42,709 ♪ Down to the Rio Grande... ♪ 637 00:32:46,834 --> 00:32:49,667 The yacht was such a powerful image. 638 00:32:49,667 --> 00:32:52,834 With us all with the colored Antony Price suits, 639 00:32:52,834 --> 00:32:54,667 it really worked beautifully. 640 00:32:54,667 --> 00:32:58,834 ♪ Doo-doo, doo-doo-doo, doo-doo ♪ 641 00:32:58,834 --> 00:33:01,417 ♪ Doo-doo, doo-doo-doo, doo-doo... ♪ 642 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:11,500 Rio was a very hard record to follow, in hindsight. 643 00:33:11,500 --> 00:33:14,500 We made a classic album with Rio. 644 00:33:14,500 --> 00:33:17,041 And I think it was first time that we really felt 645 00:33:17,041 --> 00:33:19,917 the pressure of having to follow something up. 646 00:33:28,875 --> 00:33:32,875 The Ragged Tiger is that kind of 647 00:33:32,875 --> 00:33:37,583 dirty but incredible... 648 00:33:38,917 --> 00:33:41,375 charismatic animal 649 00:33:41,375 --> 00:33:44,583 that is success. 650 00:33:44,583 --> 00:33:48,542 ♪ I knew this was a big mistake... ♪ 651 00:33:51,750 --> 00:33:53,792 Hello, good evening, 652 00:33:53,792 --> 00:33:55,208 and welcome to our show. 653 00:34:01,834 --> 00:34:03,583 This is a dressing room, 654 00:34:03,583 --> 00:34:05,333 and by the nature of the word "dressing," 655 00:34:05,333 --> 00:34:07,291 it means everyone has to change, so fuck off. 656 00:34:07,291 --> 00:34:09,375 What we really want to tell you is we're gonna do this. 657 00:34:09,375 --> 00:34:10,500 Good night. 658 00:34:13,375 --> 00:34:16,834 The demands on us had become absurd 659 00:34:16,834 --> 00:34:19,417 because I think a lot of the business people 660 00:34:19,417 --> 00:34:21,125 had smelled the money 661 00:34:21,125 --> 00:34:23,375 everywhere that they possibly could, 662 00:34:23,375 --> 00:34:26,750 and they just wanted more and more and more and more. 663 00:34:26,750 --> 00:34:31,750 ♪ The union of the snake is on the climb... ♪ 664 00:34:31,750 --> 00:34:33,208 Our accountants were saying, 665 00:34:33,208 --> 00:34:34,667 "You can't stay in England 666 00:34:34,667 --> 00:34:36,250 because you're gonna pay all this tax." 667 00:34:36,250 --> 00:34:39,250 So we decamped to the South of France, 668 00:34:39,250 --> 00:34:41,792 and we end up in this château in the middle of nowhere. 669 00:34:43,583 --> 00:34:45,834 It was wonderful. 670 00:34:45,834 --> 00:34:47,959 The scenery was fantastic. 671 00:34:47,959 --> 00:34:50,000 And they had swimming pool 672 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,125 and tennis courts, 673 00:34:52,125 --> 00:34:55,291 and we didn't get a lot of work done. 674 00:34:55,291 --> 00:34:56,625 I get up and... 675 00:34:56,625 --> 00:34:58,959 have a bath and a wee-wee. 676 00:34:58,959 --> 00:35:00,291 Have lunch. 677 00:35:00,291 --> 00:35:02,959 -Play a bit of tennis. -And then I wake up. 678 00:35:02,959 --> 00:35:05,208 I mean, I was all into the swimming pool 679 00:35:05,208 --> 00:35:06,458 and the tennis courts. 680 00:35:06,458 --> 00:35:10,792 John was bringing his girls down. 681 00:35:10,792 --> 00:35:14,250 Andy was getting a bit high. 682 00:35:14,250 --> 00:35:16,583 John and Andy were funding 683 00:35:16,583 --> 00:35:20,625 South American countries with their, uh... 684 00:35:20,625 --> 00:35:22,625 with their pocket money. 685 00:35:22,625 --> 00:35:24,750 They were up very, very, very late at night, 686 00:35:24,750 --> 00:35:26,750 but not in the studio so much. 687 00:35:26,750 --> 00:35:29,458 It was like, nobody was a saint in that band. 688 00:35:29,458 --> 00:35:31,333 I mean, why would you be? 689 00:35:31,333 --> 00:35:33,166 There's so much being served up, 690 00:35:33,166 --> 00:35:34,917 being offered to us. 691 00:35:34,917 --> 00:35:37,083 You've got drugs, you've got alcohol-- 692 00:35:37,083 --> 00:35:39,000 You know, there's a whole load of things. 693 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,583 It's a-- It's a minefield, really. 694 00:35:41,583 --> 00:35:45,083 And even in amongst all of the fraternal 695 00:35:45,083 --> 00:35:46,792 kind of fun and games, 696 00:35:46,792 --> 00:35:48,333 there was loneliness as well. 697 00:35:48,333 --> 00:35:51,750 So, you know, 698 00:35:51,750 --> 00:35:54,000 I don't think anybody relished 699 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:57,166 sleeping alone if it could be avoided. 700 00:35:57,166 --> 00:35:59,750 ♪ The reflex, fle-fle-fle-fle-flex ♪ 701 00:35:59,750 --> 00:36:02,166 ♪ You've gone too far this time ♪ 702 00:36:02,166 --> 00:36:04,667 ♪ But I'm dancing... ♪ 703 00:36:04,667 --> 00:36:07,875 The tour for that album 704 00:36:07,875 --> 00:36:10,875 in '83-'84 705 00:36:10,875 --> 00:36:14,458 was the height of everything coming together. 706 00:36:14,458 --> 00:36:17,750 All the insanity from every single place 707 00:36:17,750 --> 00:36:20,500 just came to meet us in America. 708 00:36:22,959 --> 00:36:25,792 We couldn't hear what we were playing most of the time 709 00:36:25,792 --> 00:36:28,458 because the noise of the audience 710 00:36:28,458 --> 00:36:31,000 was just overwhelming. 711 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:32,291 And they were all teenage girls, 712 00:36:32,291 --> 00:36:35,166 so it was all this certain pitch. 713 00:36:35,166 --> 00:36:36,875 It was like hitting... 714 00:36:36,875 --> 00:36:39,375 very heavy weather in an airplane. 715 00:36:39,375 --> 00:36:41,375 And we were just looking at each other, going, 716 00:36:41,375 --> 00:36:43,625 "Whoa, whoa! Hang on! Hang on!" 717 00:36:43,625 --> 00:36:47,625 I have photograph upon photograph 718 00:36:47,625 --> 00:36:50,333 of girls screaming and crying. 719 00:36:50,333 --> 00:36:51,959 I wasn't prepared for the fact 720 00:36:51,959 --> 00:36:53,583 that it was the Beatles, effectively. 721 00:36:53,583 --> 00:36:56,500 it was madness, carnage, everywhere we went. 722 00:37:01,458 --> 00:37:05,083 We were hemmed into the hotels. We couldn't move at that point. 723 00:37:05,083 --> 00:37:07,625 Every time you tried to leave the hotel, there would be 724 00:37:07,625 --> 00:37:11,917 200 teenage girls trying to rip you apart. 725 00:37:11,917 --> 00:37:15,250 ♪ Finding treasure in the dark ♪ 726 00:37:15,250 --> 00:37:19,125 ♪ And watching over lucky clover ♪ 727 00:37:19,125 --> 00:37:22,083 ♪ Isn't that bizarre... ♪ 728 00:37:22,083 --> 00:37:24,667 It's absolutely incredible. There's tons of people here. 729 00:37:24,667 --> 00:37:26,917 I think there's about 2,000, 730 00:37:26,917 --> 00:37:29,125 3,000, four million, you never know. 731 00:37:29,125 --> 00:37:31,750 Did you think they'd have to bring in police horses 732 00:37:31,750 --> 00:37:33,000 to keep the people quiet? 733 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:34,375 Have they got police horses out there? 734 00:37:34,375 --> 00:37:35,917 Oh, God, where are they? 735 00:37:35,917 --> 00:37:37,417 The fans began to realize 736 00:37:37,417 --> 00:37:39,333 that all they had to do was phone the top hotels, 737 00:37:39,333 --> 00:37:41,875 wait for my name, then they'd know where the band was staying. 738 00:37:41,875 --> 00:37:44,166 And I'd get the phone call at 2:00 in the morning 739 00:37:44,166 --> 00:37:47,583 asking how John was, or the fire alarm would go off 740 00:37:47,583 --> 00:37:50,166 and the whole hotel then had to evacuate. 741 00:37:50,166 --> 00:37:53,875 And that's how fans got to meet the band. 742 00:37:53,875 --> 00:37:57,125 ♪ Who's waiting by the park ♪ 743 00:37:57,125 --> 00:38:00,375 ♪ The reflex Is in charge of finding... ♪ 744 00:38:00,375 --> 00:38:04,417 It was... wild. 745 00:38:04,417 --> 00:38:08,041 I had somebody in a wardrobe in my room. 746 00:38:08,041 --> 00:38:09,834 I checked into my room, 747 00:38:09,834 --> 00:38:13,375 and I opened the wardrobe when I was unpacking, 748 00:38:13,375 --> 00:38:16,458 and there was a girl in there. 749 00:38:16,458 --> 00:38:18,667 It was like losing your virginity, you know. 750 00:38:18,667 --> 00:38:21,458 We were never the same again. It was like-- You know? 751 00:38:21,458 --> 00:38:26,709 ♪ What a game, he's hiding all the cards ♪ 752 00:38:26,709 --> 00:38:30,333 ♪ The reflex is in charge of finding... ♪ 753 00:38:32,875 --> 00:38:35,500 I think by the end of the U.S. tour, 754 00:38:35,500 --> 00:38:39,333 we'd literally been deep-fried daily 755 00:38:39,333 --> 00:38:41,333 for months on end. 756 00:38:41,333 --> 00:38:43,542 Of course, pettiness 757 00:38:43,542 --> 00:38:46,375 and misunderstandings 758 00:38:46,375 --> 00:38:49,333 had started to set in within the band. 759 00:38:49,333 --> 00:38:53,625 We really for the first time had had enough of each other 760 00:38:53,625 --> 00:38:57,166 We all kind of went... 761 00:38:57,166 --> 00:38:59,583 John and Andy 762 00:38:59,583 --> 00:39:02,667 wanted to be more rock, and they did Power Station. 763 00:39:02,667 --> 00:39:06,667 Me and Nick decided we wanted to be more arty, 764 00:39:06,667 --> 00:39:09,000 and we started Arcadia. 765 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:10,792 Roger didn't know which bloody camp 766 00:39:10,792 --> 00:39:12,834 to be in, so he did a bit of both. 767 00:39:12,834 --> 00:39:14,250 It was kind of like two boats 768 00:39:14,250 --> 00:39:16,542 were sailing off in different directions, 769 00:39:16,542 --> 00:39:18,917 and I kinda had one leg on one boat 770 00:39:18,917 --> 00:39:20,417 and one leg on the other. 771 00:39:20,417 --> 00:39:23,166 And I got kinda stretched in between, actually, 772 00:39:23,166 --> 00:39:25,041 which was a bit painful. 773 00:39:25,041 --> 00:39:27,208 I know you've been here all day, 774 00:39:27,208 --> 00:39:29,583 but if you've got any energy left, 775 00:39:29,583 --> 00:39:33,000 we'd like to see you dancing! 776 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,667 When Bob Geldof calls you and says, you know, 777 00:39:35,667 --> 00:39:37,542 "I'm doing this project. 778 00:39:37,542 --> 00:39:40,542 It's gonna save millions of lives in Africa," 779 00:39:40,542 --> 00:39:42,583 you can't say, "No, we're on a break." 780 00:39:42,583 --> 00:39:45,792 When we got together in Philadelphia, 781 00:39:45,792 --> 00:39:47,625 we were really in two camps. 782 00:39:53,750 --> 00:39:55,667 The atmosphere was completely toxic. 783 00:39:55,667 --> 00:39:59,417 Nobody wanted to be together at that point. 784 00:39:59,417 --> 00:40:00,750 Which was quite sad, really, 785 00:40:00,750 --> 00:40:02,917 because we'd been so close a few years ago, 786 00:40:02,917 --> 00:40:05,542 and suddenly it was like we could hardly bear 787 00:40:05,542 --> 00:40:08,333 to be in the same room as each other. 788 00:40:08,333 --> 00:40:10,583 Just got to the point where I couldn't-- 789 00:40:10,583 --> 00:40:12,542 I couldn't deal with it anymore. 790 00:40:12,542 --> 00:40:14,917 I got up every morning 791 00:40:14,917 --> 00:40:17,917 feeling unhappy with what I was doing. 792 00:40:17,917 --> 00:40:21,208 I was sensible enough at the age of 25 793 00:40:21,208 --> 00:40:24,875 to think, you know, I'm gonna walk away from this. 794 00:40:24,875 --> 00:40:27,417 I remember when Roger left the band just thinking, 795 00:40:27,417 --> 00:40:30,166 "What a weird thing to do." It just-- 796 00:40:30,166 --> 00:40:33,125 Who leaves a band when they're that successful? 797 00:40:33,125 --> 00:40:34,583 Because I sort of knew him. 798 00:40:34,583 --> 00:40:36,417 I just thought, he's obviously gone mad. 799 00:40:36,417 --> 00:40:39,792 ♪ The new moon on Monday ♪ 800 00:40:39,792 --> 00:40:44,583 ♪ And a fire dance through the night ♪ 801 00:40:44,583 --> 00:40:48,166 ♪ I stayed the cold day... ♪ 802 00:40:51,917 --> 00:40:54,625 ♪ Notorious, notorious ♪ 803 00:40:58,125 --> 00:41:01,166 ♪ No-No, notorious... ♪ 804 00:41:06,125 --> 00:41:08,583 We were fighting for our lives, you know? 805 00:41:08,583 --> 00:41:11,291 Because the band had had its moment. 806 00:41:11,291 --> 00:41:15,834 ♪ I can't read about it... ♪ 807 00:41:15,834 --> 00:41:18,834 We realized that this was a real crisis. 808 00:41:18,834 --> 00:41:20,417 It was survival. 809 00:41:20,417 --> 00:41:24,333 ♪ I'll do fine without it... ♪ 810 00:41:24,333 --> 00:41:25,750 Andy kind of, you know, 811 00:41:25,750 --> 00:41:28,041 dicked us around for about six months, actually. 812 00:41:28,041 --> 00:41:31,000 We didn't know whether he was coming or going. 813 00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,000 Maybe he wasn't getting his rocks off, 814 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:34,875 the music wasn't speaking to him, 815 00:41:34,875 --> 00:41:37,417 he was getting frustrated with the style of the music 816 00:41:37,417 --> 00:41:39,709 and the direction the music was taking. 817 00:41:39,709 --> 00:41:43,625 The three of us came together in such an insanely-- 818 00:41:43,625 --> 00:41:45,875 like, with our backs to the wall-- 819 00:41:45,875 --> 00:41:47,750 but it was so galvanizing. 820 00:41:47,750 --> 00:41:49,583 The desire to prove ourselves 821 00:41:49,583 --> 00:41:53,041 was more powerful than it had been at the beginning. 822 00:41:53,041 --> 00:41:56,709 Whereas we were in two camps at Live Aid, 823 00:41:56,709 --> 00:41:58,041 six, eight months later, 824 00:41:58,041 --> 00:42:00,125 the three of us were in a new camp, 825 00:42:00,125 --> 00:42:02,041 and it was our camp, and it was the trio camp. 826 00:42:02,041 --> 00:42:04,458 ♪ I heard you promise but I don't believe it ♪ 827 00:42:04,458 --> 00:42:06,125 ♪ That's why I did it again... ♪ 828 00:42:06,125 --> 00:42:09,542 So as things have always seemed to happen with us, 829 00:42:09,542 --> 00:42:13,667 it was one door closed, another door opened. 830 00:42:13,667 --> 00:42:15,750 And standing in that doorway 831 00:42:15,750 --> 00:42:18,166 was Sir Nile of Rodgers, 832 00:42:18,166 --> 00:42:21,208 who came in and really oversaw 833 00:42:21,208 --> 00:42:23,250 the Notorious project. 834 00:42:23,250 --> 00:42:25,750 As soon as we met each other, 835 00:42:25,750 --> 00:42:28,417 it was... 836 00:42:28,417 --> 00:42:31,083 goddamn, like love at first sight. 837 00:42:31,083 --> 00:42:34,166 We had so much fun. We were making music 838 00:42:34,166 --> 00:42:36,417 the same way Chic makes music, 839 00:42:36,417 --> 00:42:39,291 the same way Luther Vandross makes music. 840 00:42:39,291 --> 00:42:42,583 When you meet an artist, 841 00:42:42,583 --> 00:42:46,250 and there's that kind of connection right away, 842 00:42:46,250 --> 00:42:48,417 you know that big things are gonna happen. 843 00:42:48,417 --> 00:42:49,792 Three, four... 844 00:42:51,750 --> 00:42:53,458 He's fantastic to be around. 845 00:42:53,458 --> 00:42:55,291 He has a great energy, 846 00:42:55,291 --> 00:42:58,291 a joy, a joyfulness about the way he plays 847 00:42:58,291 --> 00:43:01,250 and the way he approaches songwriting and recording. 848 00:43:06,917 --> 00:43:09,250 That sounds like music to me, man. 849 00:43:09,250 --> 00:43:11,792 When we'd finished it, and we were all pretty pleased, 850 00:43:11,792 --> 00:43:15,125 we were just doing the mixes, and we'd sent 851 00:43:15,125 --> 00:43:17,709 an almost complete version to the record label, 852 00:43:17,709 --> 00:43:20,291 and they'd come back, and they'd said, 853 00:43:20,291 --> 00:43:22,083 "Uh, we've got a problem. 854 00:43:22,083 --> 00:43:23,667 "We can't put this out. 855 00:43:23,667 --> 00:43:25,458 "It doesn't sound like Duran Duran. 856 00:43:25,458 --> 00:43:27,291 It's-It's-- Um... 857 00:43:27,291 --> 00:43:28,917 It's far too urban." 858 00:43:28,917 --> 00:43:31,375 But we just told them we were changing direction, 859 00:43:31,375 --> 00:43:32,625 and that was that. 860 00:43:32,625 --> 00:43:34,041 I think they just saw the boat 861 00:43:34,041 --> 00:43:35,709 going the other way down the river 862 00:43:35,709 --> 00:43:37,125 with all their money on it. 863 00:43:37,125 --> 00:43:40,125 When your record's not as successful 864 00:43:40,125 --> 00:43:42,667 as the one before, nobody wants to talk to you. 865 00:43:42,667 --> 00:43:44,792 The press don't want to talk to you, 866 00:43:44,792 --> 00:43:47,000 the music press aren't interested 867 00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:48,375 because it's other things. 868 00:43:48,375 --> 00:43:50,625 "You can't get on the radio because 869 00:43:50,625 --> 00:43:52,583 "you're old stuff, man. you're old news. 870 00:43:52,583 --> 00:43:55,125 We've got new stuff we're playing here on Radio 1." 871 00:43:55,125 --> 00:43:56,583 So you sit there 872 00:43:56,583 --> 00:44:00,000 in your business manager' office in New York City, 873 00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:04,000 looking at the pictures of all the other acts he's working on 874 00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:07,000 and talking about, "What can we do to save this? 875 00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,500 What can we do to make it work?" 876 00:44:09,500 --> 00:44:12,625 The first time it happens, it's really scary, 877 00:44:12,625 --> 00:44:16,000 because you thought it would carry on forever. 878 00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:18,834 But it happens. You get through it. 879 00:44:18,834 --> 00:44:22,500 And the next time it happens, it's not so bad. 880 00:44:22,500 --> 00:44:25,458 And the next time it happens, it's not so bad. 881 00:44:25,458 --> 00:44:27,458 And then you just get to a point where you think, 882 00:44:27,458 --> 00:44:28,583 "You know what? 883 00:44:28,583 --> 00:44:30,750 "Let's just relax and do what we do. 884 00:44:30,750 --> 00:44:32,917 "Do we believe in the music we make? 885 00:44:32,917 --> 00:44:34,542 "Yes, we do. 886 00:44:34,542 --> 00:44:36,417 "Can we go in and write new stuff? 887 00:44:36,417 --> 00:44:38,125 "Have you still got stuff inside you 888 00:44:38,125 --> 00:44:39,500 "that you want to say? 889 00:44:39,500 --> 00:44:41,875 Yes, I have. Yes, we can." And you do it. 890 00:44:43,542 --> 00:44:44,875 ♪ Notorious ♪ 891 00:44:46,125 --> 00:44:49,375 ♪ No-No, Notorious ♪ 892 00:45:03,542 --> 00:45:06,041 ♪ Hey, child... ♪ 893 00:45:06,041 --> 00:45:08,250 At that time, we were looking to move 894 00:45:08,250 --> 00:45:10,000 into a new phase of the band 895 00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:11,333 and what that band looked like. 896 00:45:11,333 --> 00:45:12,917 We'd gotten away from the early '80s, 897 00:45:12,917 --> 00:45:15,750 and we were looking to sort of redefine ourselves. 898 00:45:17,333 --> 00:45:19,917 ♪ Who do you need ♪ 899 00:45:19,917 --> 00:45:23,417 ♪ Who do you love ♪ 900 00:45:23,417 --> 00:45:25,750 ♪ When you come undone? ♪ 901 00:45:25,750 --> 00:45:28,083 We knew there was this guy, Nick Egan, 902 00:45:28,083 --> 00:45:29,458 and he did lots of cool stuff. 903 00:45:29,458 --> 00:45:31,583 He's got that same interest 904 00:45:31,583 --> 00:45:34,750 in art and music and fashion. 905 00:45:34,750 --> 00:45:36,458 I've worked with the Clash, 906 00:45:36,458 --> 00:45:37,709 I've worked with Bob Dylan, 907 00:45:37,709 --> 00:45:39,083 I've worked with Malcolm McLaren. 908 00:45:39,083 --> 00:45:41,583 My first cover I did was for the Ramones. 909 00:45:41,583 --> 00:45:43,250 The greatest achievement and the proudest achievement 910 00:45:43,250 --> 00:45:46,041 of my working career is actually working with Duran Duran, 911 00:45:46,041 --> 00:45:48,458 because I find the fact they stay relevant 912 00:45:48,458 --> 00:45:50,458 and keep ahead of the game, 913 00:45:50,458 --> 00:45:52,667 there's not many bands that can do that anymore. 914 00:45:52,667 --> 00:45:54,792 I think Nick was really important at that moment 915 00:45:54,792 --> 00:45:56,583 to help us realize first the cover 916 00:45:56,583 --> 00:45:59,000 and then the "Ordinary World" video. 917 00:46:13,458 --> 00:46:16,834 ♪ Came in from a rainy Thursday ♪ 918 00:46:16,834 --> 00:46:20,542 ♪ On the avenue ♪ 919 00:46:20,542 --> 00:46:23,750 ♪ Thought I heard you talking softly... ♪ 920 00:46:23,750 --> 00:46:25,625 "Ordinary World," the song itself, 921 00:46:25,625 --> 00:46:27,875 the thing that was the catapult back into phase two, 922 00:46:27,875 --> 00:46:29,458 if you like, when I heard it, 923 00:46:29,458 --> 00:46:31,333 I just thought, "This is a hit record." 924 00:46:31,333 --> 00:46:34,083 And you don't often think that. How did you guys feel as a band? 925 00:46:34,083 --> 00:46:37,542 We'd had the biggest flop of our careers 926 00:46:37,542 --> 00:46:39,959 with the album before, with Liberty. 927 00:46:39,959 --> 00:46:42,166 We were kind of a bit lost, really, 928 00:46:42,166 --> 00:46:45,000 but I remember hearing "Ordinary World" on the radio 929 00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,709 and thinking, "Thank you, God." 930 00:46:47,709 --> 00:46:49,458 You know, that we'd just, like, 931 00:46:49,458 --> 00:46:51,709 we'd got a foot into another decade, you know? 932 00:46:51,709 --> 00:46:53,917 'Cause we'd just had a few years of, like, 933 00:46:53,917 --> 00:46:57,166 "'80s band, '80s band. They're done. They're done." 934 00:46:57,166 --> 00:46:59,333 I think the success of the single 935 00:46:59,333 --> 00:47:02,250 took an enormous amount of pressure off us. 936 00:47:02,250 --> 00:47:05,041 So I think Simon's lyrics were fantastic on that. 937 00:47:05,041 --> 00:47:07,375 Most of Simon's lyrics from the early albums 938 00:47:07,375 --> 00:47:09,667 are kind of quite oblique. 939 00:47:09,667 --> 00:47:11,333 You're not quite sure what they are. 940 00:47:11,333 --> 00:47:12,667 That's what makes them so interesting. 941 00:47:12,667 --> 00:47:15,208 But it kind of felt at this point like, 942 00:47:15,208 --> 00:47:18,583 maybe we just need to start writing songs about emotions 943 00:47:18,583 --> 00:47:22,250 and-and, uh, and see how that works out. 944 00:47:22,250 --> 00:47:26,041 ♪ But I won't cry for yesterday ♪ 945 00:47:26,041 --> 00:47:29,709 ♪ There's an ordinary world ♪ 946 00:47:29,709 --> 00:47:33,709 ♪ Somehow I have to find... ♪ 947 00:47:33,709 --> 00:47:36,750 "Ordinary World" is a song 948 00:47:36,750 --> 00:47:39,834 about trying to get over 949 00:47:39,834 --> 00:47:44,083 the death of a best friend. 950 00:47:44,083 --> 00:47:47,959 And putting it in words freed me, absolutely. 951 00:47:47,959 --> 00:47:53,083 It really worked for me emotionally and mentally. 952 00:47:53,083 --> 00:47:54,542 Everybody who heard it 953 00:47:54,542 --> 00:47:56,709 could apply it to something in their life, 954 00:47:56,709 --> 00:47:59,250 and it meant something to them, 955 00:47:59,250 --> 00:48:01,083 but for a totally different reason. 956 00:48:01,083 --> 00:48:04,750 And it became such an important song for us. 957 00:48:04,750 --> 00:48:08,417 And I think it only had that power to touch people 958 00:48:08,417 --> 00:48:11,083 because it meant so much to me. 959 00:48:11,083 --> 00:48:12,417 ♪ In my world ♪ 960 00:48:12,417 --> 00:48:16,583 ♪ I will learn to survive... ♪ 961 00:48:26,875 --> 00:48:30,667 ♪ I put my hand ♪ 962 00:48:30,667 --> 00:48:34,208 ♪ Into the flame ♪ 963 00:48:34,208 --> 00:48:37,834 ♪ Burning but I feel no pain... ♪ 964 00:48:37,834 --> 00:48:40,291 We get Andy Taylor back as well tonight. 965 00:48:40,291 --> 00:48:45,041 - ♪ Don't speak my name ♪ 966 00:48:45,041 --> 00:48:47,041 ♪ Hold onto... ♪ 967 00:48:47,041 --> 00:48:48,959 I was talking to somebody this morning, 968 00:48:48,959 --> 00:48:51,333 and they thought we got back together to party... 969 00:48:52,458 --> 00:48:54,417 or find another wife or whatever, but... 970 00:48:57,834 --> 00:48:59,750 Fuckin' rockin' show, dude. 971 00:48:59,750 --> 00:49:01,375 Simon, the way you came in the crowd, 972 00:49:01,375 --> 00:49:03,500 I just wanted to lick you all over. 973 00:49:04,792 --> 00:49:08,125 People have been asking us for 20 years by then, 974 00:49:08,125 --> 00:49:11,458 "When are you ever gonna put the original band back together?" 975 00:49:11,458 --> 00:49:14,500 And we didn't know that we would, 976 00:49:14,500 --> 00:49:16,750 but nobody had ever ruled it out. 977 00:49:26,625 --> 00:49:28,375 I just thought, 978 00:49:28,375 --> 00:49:29,959 if we ever get a ball near a pocket, 979 00:49:29,959 --> 00:49:32,500 this massive cheer's gonna go up. 980 00:49:34,500 --> 00:49:37,834 ♪ 'Cause where I stop that's where you begin... ♪ 981 00:49:37,834 --> 00:49:40,583 Apparently, it was 18 years 982 00:49:40,583 --> 00:49:42,709 -Wow. -in between... 983 00:49:42,709 --> 00:49:45,375 the last show that we were all on stage together 984 00:49:45,375 --> 00:49:49,250 and the first show of the Astronaut project. 985 00:49:49,250 --> 00:49:50,750 It was a gamble, 986 00:49:50,750 --> 00:49:52,375 but we didn't have a record company, 987 00:49:52,375 --> 00:49:54,166 and we didn't have a manager. 988 00:49:54,166 --> 00:49:58,125 I think we went in pretty much with nothing to lose. 989 00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:08,375 We've got this super hooky vocal on the chorus. 990 00:50:08,375 --> 00:50:11,208 -To D-minor. 991 00:50:13,750 --> 00:50:15,625 Down. 992 00:50:22,208 --> 00:50:24,583 -♪ Does anybody know? ♪ -I like that bit. 993 00:50:24,583 --> 00:50:25,917 What's that chord? 994 00:50:25,917 --> 00:50:27,959 It wasn't gonna be all about 995 00:50:27,959 --> 00:50:29,500 what happened in 1983. 996 00:50:29,500 --> 00:50:32,750 This was gonna be about what we could do now. 997 00:50:34,125 --> 00:50:36,750 So, play it-- play it from that first chord. 998 00:50:38,917 --> 00:50:42,709 But I've gotta say, getting the different personalities 999 00:50:42,709 --> 00:50:44,417 to work again 1000 00:50:44,417 --> 00:50:47,041 was probably more challenging than the music, I think. 1001 00:50:47,041 --> 00:50:48,875 That was the tough part. 1002 00:50:48,875 --> 00:50:52,709 Okay, clear the room, please. Including you. Out. 1003 00:50:52,709 --> 00:50:54,875 You guys sang it differently. 1004 00:50:54,875 --> 00:50:56,250 -No, we didn't. -Yeah, you did. 1005 00:50:56,250 --> 00:50:58,792 Absolutely, you did. And we all noticed it. 1006 00:50:58,792 --> 00:51:00,417 You sang it-- It was exac-- 1007 00:51:00,417 --> 00:51:01,792 It was exactly the conversation 1008 00:51:01,792 --> 00:51:03,667 that we were having in sound check. 1009 00:51:03,667 --> 00:51:04,875 You said that before, 1010 00:51:04,875 --> 00:51:07,458 but I can't figure out what you mean. 1011 00:51:07,458 --> 00:51:10,375 You go to the last-- 1012 00:51:10,375 --> 00:51:13,125 No, no. You're wrong. You are wrong. 1013 00:51:13,125 --> 00:51:14,750 I don't think ever 1014 00:51:14,750 --> 00:51:18,375 was there a more important "Lights!" 1015 00:51:18,375 --> 00:51:23,083 than that first show in Osaka on the reunion tour. 1016 00:51:23,083 --> 00:51:24,542 Because that was the ultimate 1017 00:51:24,542 --> 00:51:27,250 "Shut the fuck up and play your guitars." 1018 00:51:38,250 --> 00:51:41,083 And that was really what we needed, because then, 1019 00:51:41,083 --> 00:51:43,792 all the politics just "doof, schtum." 1020 00:51:43,792 --> 00:51:46,792 And then we go out and play, and we remind each other, 1021 00:51:46,792 --> 00:51:50,208 "When we do this together, this is what we get." 1022 00:51:50,208 --> 00:51:53,458 ♪ Reach up for the sunrise ♪ 1023 00:51:53,458 --> 00:51:58,041 ♪ Put your hands into the big sky ♪ 1024 00:51:58,041 --> 00:52:01,291 ♪ You can touch the sunrise ♪ 1025 00:52:01,291 --> 00:52:05,875 ♪ Feel the new day enter your life ♪ 1026 00:52:05,875 --> 00:52:08,625 ♪ Reach up for the sunrise ♪ 1027 00:52:08,625 --> 00:52:12,375 ♪ Put your hands into the big sky... ♪ 1028 00:52:12,375 --> 00:52:14,208 After the Budokan shows, 1029 00:52:14,208 --> 00:52:17,709 we decided to do a tour to support Astronaut, 1030 00:52:17,709 --> 00:52:19,792 and I think it was planned to be 1031 00:52:19,792 --> 00:52:21,250 about three to six months, 1032 00:52:21,250 --> 00:52:24,041 but in reality ended up being around two years. 1033 00:52:27,709 --> 00:52:29,333 Tomorrow night we'll do like tonight. 1034 00:52:29,333 --> 00:52:30,875 Tonight we'll do like last night. 1035 00:52:30,875 --> 00:52:33,041 And tomorrow we'll do like the night before. 1036 00:52:33,041 --> 00:52:34,834 We've got to shorten "The Reflex." 1037 00:52:34,834 --> 00:52:38,125 Second show, "Tiger Tiger's" out. Right? 1038 00:52:38,125 --> 00:52:40,125 What do we play "Bedroom Toys" instead of? 1039 00:52:40,125 --> 00:52:41,917 We want to play that next to "Notorious," don't we? 1040 00:52:41,917 --> 00:52:44,333 We could play "Night Boat," then "Chauffeur." 1041 00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:51,458 ♪ Her name is Rio ♪ 1042 00:52:51,458 --> 00:52:54,417 ♪ And she dances in the sand ♪ 1043 00:52:57,750 --> 00:52:59,041 Hey, that was a great-- 1044 00:52:59,041 --> 00:53:02,709 I'm feeling job insecurity, Bill. 1045 00:53:03,875 --> 00:53:05,583 The last time we were at the wheel, 1046 00:53:05,583 --> 00:53:06,709 we just drove it off the cliff. 1047 00:53:06,709 --> 00:53:08,375 And this time, you know, 1048 00:53:08,375 --> 00:53:10,083 wanting to make sure that doesn't happen again. 1049 00:53:10,083 --> 00:53:12,291 I mean, we're all quite driven now. 1050 00:53:12,291 --> 00:53:15,166 I think what the time did was that it-- 1051 00:53:15,166 --> 00:53:18,875 we all dug back in our relationships with each other 1052 00:53:18,875 --> 00:53:21,125 and our feelings for the band, you know. 1053 00:53:21,125 --> 00:53:22,959 I love you. 1054 00:53:25,417 --> 00:53:28,834 -That was worth the work. -That was worth a year. 1055 00:53:28,834 --> 00:53:30,875 It was like, everything was set. 1056 00:53:30,875 --> 00:53:32,166 You know what? 1057 00:53:32,166 --> 00:53:33,792 Not a moment too fuckin' soon. 1058 00:53:33,792 --> 00:53:36,458 All the British gigs, all the gigs we've done. 1059 00:53:36,458 --> 00:53:37,917 You know, to get it here: 1060 00:53:37,917 --> 00:53:40,667 just press the "on" button. Boom! 1061 00:53:40,667 --> 00:53:43,667 - Aren't we smug? -Yeah, right! 1062 00:53:44,917 --> 00:53:46,417 I hit a horrific bum note 1063 00:53:46,417 --> 00:53:48,667 on the guitar in "Astronaut." 1064 00:53:48,667 --> 00:53:51,250 Oh, someone had to spoil it, didn't they? 1065 00:53:51,250 --> 00:53:53,333 Just when you thought it was perfect. 1066 00:53:53,333 --> 00:53:56,250 ♪ Bop, bop, bop, bop bop, bop, bop, bop ♪ 1067 00:53:56,250 --> 00:53:58,667 ♪ Calling Planet Earth ♪ 1068 00:53:58,667 --> 00:54:01,542 ♪ Bop, bop, bop, bop bop, bop, bop, bop... ♪ 1069 00:54:01,542 --> 00:54:03,542 This is Planet-- 1070 00:54:05,875 --> 00:54:08,667 And then we started a pretty good two-year run 1071 00:54:08,667 --> 00:54:10,083 of working together. 1072 00:54:10,083 --> 00:54:11,709 It was difficult, though, you know, 1073 00:54:11,709 --> 00:54:14,333 because everybody had had a different experience 1074 00:54:14,333 --> 00:54:17,041 and was carrying different stuff, baggage. 1075 00:54:17,041 --> 00:54:19,333 There was different things in everybody's suitcases, 1076 00:54:19,333 --> 00:54:21,625 and honestly, I really didn't want to know 1077 00:54:21,625 --> 00:54:23,041 what was going on, 1078 00:54:23,041 --> 00:54:25,000 but it would just come out. 1079 00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:26,750 It's a really big one for the fans. 1080 00:54:26,750 --> 00:54:28,458 -It's a very exciting tour. -Yes, it is. 1081 00:54:28,458 --> 00:54:30,208 Roger and I were just saying that we thought-- 1082 00:54:30,208 --> 00:54:32,000 you watched the reaction plummet. 1083 00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:33,375 Are you joking? 1084 00:54:33,375 --> 00:54:37,375 The front three, four rows. Watch all the way back. 1085 00:54:37,375 --> 00:54:38,917 They just went... 1086 00:54:38,917 --> 00:54:41,166 You're telling me you can see people at the back? 1087 00:54:41,166 --> 00:54:43,542 -Of course I can. -Bullshit. 1088 00:54:49,208 --> 00:54:52,041 This is really when it all started going wrong 1089 00:54:52,041 --> 00:54:54,291 for Andy on that project. 1090 00:54:54,291 --> 00:54:57,750 I remember just seeing how much he put into a show, 1091 00:54:57,750 --> 00:55:00,875 or rather, how much it took out of him. 1092 00:55:00,875 --> 00:55:02,834 Andy was all or nothing. 1093 00:55:02,834 --> 00:55:04,250 You kind of knew 1094 00:55:04,250 --> 00:55:06,000 that he wouldn't be able to keep it up. 1095 00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:08,417 If I don't come off, and I haven't had a good show 1096 00:55:08,417 --> 00:55:11,458 or I haven't got enough, I'm a bit burnt, 1097 00:55:11,458 --> 00:55:13,750 I get a bit dark after 10 weeks on tour. 1098 00:55:13,750 --> 00:55:17,250 I'm a performer, first and foremost, 1099 00:55:17,250 --> 00:55:19,291 and anything else for me 1100 00:55:19,291 --> 00:55:21,125 is a secondary incident in life. 1101 00:55:21,125 --> 00:55:23,208 I think he really missed his family, as well. 1102 00:55:23,208 --> 00:55:27,500 Andy was, and still is, a real family man. 1103 00:55:27,500 --> 00:55:30,834 When you're younger, you don't have a home to call. 1104 00:55:30,834 --> 00:55:33,333 When you're our age, 1105 00:55:33,333 --> 00:55:36,000 home isn't just a house, it's a-- 1106 00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:37,959 it's a family, it's your children. 1107 00:55:37,959 --> 00:55:40,709 And so you can get stretched very thinly, 1108 00:55:40,709 --> 00:55:44,333 and those stresses can also take their toll. 1109 00:55:44,333 --> 00:55:46,667 You can get very homesick, in a nutshell. 1110 00:55:46,667 --> 00:55:49,041 We wanted to do everything. 1111 00:55:49,041 --> 00:55:53,166 We wanted to do more work and more shows, 1112 00:55:53,166 --> 00:55:54,875 and we were happy 1113 00:55:54,875 --> 00:55:58,000 with the way that the management was working, 1114 00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:00,041 and Andy wasn't. 1115 00:56:00,041 --> 00:56:01,750 It's like one of those rat wheels, isn't it? 1116 00:56:01,750 --> 00:56:04,750 And you just gotta be King Rat sometimes 1117 00:56:04,750 --> 00:56:06,875 and say, "Bollocks. I'm jumping off." 1118 00:56:13,041 --> 00:56:15,875 And finally, the guitarist with the pop group Duran Duran 1119 00:56:15,875 --> 00:56:18,875 has left the band halfway through a world tour. 1120 00:56:18,875 --> 00:56:21,208 Andy Taylor, one of the original members, 1121 00:56:21,208 --> 00:56:22,917 rejoined the lineup five years ago, 1122 00:56:22,917 --> 00:56:24,834 after a 15-year absence. 1123 00:56:24,834 --> 00:56:26,166 The rest of the band 1124 00:56:26,166 --> 00:56:27,875 has described the relationship with him 1125 00:56:27,875 --> 00:56:30,792 as "unworkable" and one which couldn't be resolved. 1126 00:56:49,291 --> 00:56:51,166 ♪ Steppin' out steppin' out ♪ 1127 00:56:51,166 --> 00:56:53,458 ♪ Steppin' out and jumpin' up and ♪ 1128 00:56:53,458 --> 00:56:55,417 ♪ Steppin' out steppin' out ♪ 1129 00:56:55,417 --> 00:56:57,291 ♪ Steppin' out and jumpin' up and ♪ 1130 00:56:57,291 --> 00:56:59,417 ♪ Steppin' out Steppin' out ♪ 1131 00:56:59,417 --> 00:57:01,542 ♪ Steppin' out and jumpin' up... ♪ 1132 00:57:01,542 --> 00:57:05,625 We haven't been on Radio 1 for decades, 1133 00:57:05,625 --> 00:57:07,625 and we do another album 1134 00:57:07,625 --> 00:57:10,291 with Nile Rodgers, with Mark Ronson, 1135 00:57:10,291 --> 00:57:13,375 Ben Hudson, and it goes top-10. 1136 00:57:13,375 --> 00:57:15,000 It's extraordinary. 1137 00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:17,417 ♪ Everybody everywhere ♪ 1138 00:57:17,417 --> 00:57:20,166 ♪ Feel it in the air oh, yeah ♪ 1139 00:57:20,166 --> 00:57:23,166 ♪ It's time to take the pressure off ♪ 1140 00:57:23,166 --> 00:57:25,125 ♪ Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh ♪ 1141 00:57:25,125 --> 00:57:27,125 ♪ Oh, oh, oh, oh, it's up to you.... ♪ 1142 00:57:27,125 --> 00:57:30,083 And it was just such an uplifting experience. 1143 00:57:30,083 --> 00:57:33,792 When you see Nile playing his guitar like that and grinning, 1144 00:57:33,792 --> 00:57:35,875 there's nothing quite like it in the world. 1145 00:57:35,875 --> 00:57:39,333 ♪ It's up you, girl, it's time to take the pressure off... ♪ 1146 00:57:39,333 --> 00:57:40,500 The four of us have 1147 00:57:40,500 --> 00:57:42,208 this extraordinary belief in ourselves. 1148 00:57:42,208 --> 00:57:45,375 You know, we still believe we've got important music to make. 1149 00:57:45,375 --> 00:57:47,834 You know, when everybody else is going, "Pfft! They're done!" 1150 00:57:47,834 --> 00:57:50,125 You know? And we-- we have this sense 1151 00:57:50,125 --> 00:57:52,959 that there's a-- that staying together-- 1152 00:57:52,959 --> 00:57:56,667 'Cause we've all worked apart from each other. 1153 00:57:56,667 --> 00:57:58,375 We all tried that. 1154 00:57:58,375 --> 00:58:01,000 Eh. You know. There's something that we have 1155 00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:03,792 when we're together that's worth showing up for. 1156 00:58:03,792 --> 00:58:05,917 We accept, um, 1157 00:58:05,917 --> 00:58:09,125 who we are as people now, who we've grown into, 1158 00:58:09,125 --> 00:58:14,792 including everybody's faults and quirks. 1159 00:58:14,792 --> 00:58:16,458 I don't even know what's-- 1160 00:58:16,458 --> 00:58:18,500 I don't know what's in the future for us. 1161 00:58:18,500 --> 00:58:20,667 You know, I just know it'll be interesting. 1162 00:58:20,667 --> 00:58:25,333 -♪ Oh ♪ -♪ Bow to the paper gods ♪ 1163 00:58:25,333 --> 00:58:29,375 ♪ In a world that is paper thin ♪ 1164 00:58:29,375 --> 00:58:31,709 ♪ The fools in town... ♪ 1165 00:58:31,709 --> 00:58:35,125 Getting to a 14th album is a milestone. That's a moment. 1166 00:58:35,125 --> 00:58:37,125 It's not something you even think about doing 1167 00:58:37,125 --> 00:58:39,041 when you start your career. 1168 00:58:39,041 --> 00:58:42,083 Think about anyone now who's gonna make a 14th album. 1169 00:58:42,083 --> 00:58:43,750 On one hand. 1170 00:58:43,750 --> 00:58:45,709 Maybe not. One finger. 1171 00:58:48,834 --> 00:58:52,041 I actually think we've proved the detractors wrong 1172 00:58:52,041 --> 00:58:53,792 in the last decade. 1173 00:58:53,792 --> 00:58:56,333 The fact that we're still here 1174 00:58:56,333 --> 00:58:58,959 40 years after we started, 1175 00:58:58,959 --> 00:59:01,750 that-- that's the real proof. 1176 00:59:02,875 --> 00:59:06,000 ♪ Bow to the paper gods ♪ 1177 00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:09,792 ♪ In a world that is paper thin ♪ 1178 00:59:09,792 --> 00:59:13,917 ♪ The fools in town ♪ 1179 00:59:13,917 --> 00:59:17,125 ♪ Are ruling now ♪ 1180 00:59:19,125 --> 00:59:23,083 ♪ Bleeding from paper cuts ♪ 1181 00:59:23,083 --> 00:59:26,458 ♪ From money for head shots ♪ 1182 00:59:26,458 --> 00:59:29,417 ♪ Fools leading ♪ 1183 00:59:30,750 --> 00:59:33,250 ♪ Who needs it? ♪ 1184 00:59:34,917 --> 00:59:37,208 -Yes! -Yes! 1185 00:59:37,208 --> 00:59:40,250 -Charlie's first pot! -Finally! Well done! 85680

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