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♪ Please, please
tell me now... ♪
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What did I wanna be
when I grew up?
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I wanted to be adored.
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♪ Please, please
tell me now... ♪
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I was just, like,
perpetually excited in 1981.
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It was just so much fun.
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That's what New Romantic was--
wearing that on the 50 bus.
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What teenage
girl didn't have a crush
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on every single guy
in that band?
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This one person
threw three bras on the stage.
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And two pairs of knickers.
I thought,
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"She's definitely not wearing
any underwear now."
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♪ Girls on film... ♪
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Every time
you tried to move,
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there would be 200 teenage girls
trying to rip you apart.
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Duran Duran is my life.
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Waiting for them
outside of BBC...
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They never noticed me.
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Nobody really wanted to
give you credit for the fact
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that everybody was
a great musician.
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I feel like Duran Duran
is my second band.
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♪ Her name is Rio... ♪
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The demands on us
had become absurd.
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It's like one of those
rat wheels isn't it?
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And you just gotta be
King Rat sometimes and say,
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"Bollocks. I'm jumping off."
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The atmosphere
was completely toxic.
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We'd just had
a few years of,
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like, "'80s band, '80s band."
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I think they just saw
the boat going the other way
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down the river
with all their money on it.
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Imagine to be in
a band like Duran Duran
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and have the career
that they've had.
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That's, like,
the ultimate dream.
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♪ No-No-Notorious... ♪
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For me,
all of our albums
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define different stages
in our career.
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The first album
was our game plan.
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♪ Only came outside ♪
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♪ To watch the night
fall with the rain... ♪
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The way we are
on that first album,
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we're all playing the best
that we could play,
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and we're all just
playing every note we know.
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♪ Some New Romantic
looking for the TV sound... ♪
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"Planet Earth" was the energy
of rock music and punk,
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and strong melody.
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We all loved melodies,
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good songs,
that was what it was about.
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♪ Look now,
look all around ♪
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♪ There's no sign of life ♪
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♪ Voices, another sound ♪
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♪ Can you hear me now? ♪
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-Ooh, it smells old.
-Jesus!
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The Decrepids.
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Oh--
Oh, come on, Rodge.
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Come on. Let's get cozy.
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-Snuggle up in the back.
-Put your seat belt on.
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Well, if you're driving,
I will.
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-He's actually driving it?
-Oh, no.
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That's what I said.
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I'm in the danger seat.
You're fine there.
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So it appears that in here...
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our very first demo,
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in Birmingham,
for our first album.
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-It's "Faster Than Light."
-It is.
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Oh, wow.
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-♪ The light ♪
-♪ Faster than light ♪
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-♪ The light ♪
-♪ Faster than light... ♪
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I think the last time we were
in a Citroen was probably,
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together, maybe 1982?
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I don't know how we
came across the first Citroen,
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but it was, like,
the perfect car for Duran Duran.
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It was super fast
and it was super comfortable.
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I don't remember where
we got the first one from.
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-We bought the second one.
-Buying the second one
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was a major commitment
to success.
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We don't know
what else is on here.
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Let's have a look.
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-Andy's playing was--
-The car's shaking.
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Andy's playing was very
economical, wasn't it?
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Oh, yeah,
but that was so great.
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-He played essential guitar.
-Yeah.
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That's a loud vocal. Wow.
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I hate--
The vocal's horrible.
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-It's so loud.
-Horrible vocal!
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Stop it!
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White riot, I wanna riot ♪
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♪ White riot,
a riot of our own... ♪
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Aah!
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We really became brothers.
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We were both single kids.
we didn't have any siblings.
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We lived a few hundred meters
away from each other
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in Hollywood, Birmingham.
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There was a lot of other kids
at school that loved music.
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But not as much as we did.
Or that's what we thought.
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Blondie,
Talking Heads,
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Patti Smith, Roxy Music...
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we saw lots and lots of times.
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I took John
to his first concert.
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It was in April 1974,
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and it was actually
Mick Ronson.
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And it cost us £1.35 each.
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Every time we went to a show,
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John and I used to
count the trucks
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outside at the back of the show
and figure out
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how many lights they had
and how much sound, and think
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how many we needed to make
what we were gonna do happen.
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My dad was a manual worker.
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My dad worked at the Rover.
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So it was very much expected
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that I would remain
a manual worker.
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I didn't think it was
a great way of life.
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I wanted to do
something different.
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I had this dream
of being in a band.
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Birmingham was a very small
world in those days,
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and anybody who was
kind of any good,
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you know, you'd hear about.
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So I think that John and Nick
had heard about me,
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and I'd heard about
Duran Duran.
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We were rehearsing
at this...
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this squat in Cheapside.
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It was kind of like
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the armpit of Birmingham
down here.
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This is really,
it's the spiritual home
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of Duran Duran
right here.
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Roger is the most likable person
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you'll ever
meet in this business.
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You know, and right away
we clicked.
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Just set my drums up
and started jamming,
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and they said,
"Come back next week,"
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so I must have got
the gig, you know.
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So this is really my moment,
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is just walking through
that door right there.
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♪ Outside ♪
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♪ Is there anyone out there? ♪
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At 19 years old, it was like
walking into a space rocket.
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It took me
all over the world,
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and kind of everything
that I have,
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really, that's good in life
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is a result of walking
through that...
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through that door there.
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♪ Look out of the window ♪
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♪ Baby, you can call
by my name... ♪
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Birmingham at that time
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might as well have been
the center of the world.
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I don't feel like--
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It was the center
of our world, wasn't it?
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I don't feel like
we ever thought,
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"Oh, man,
I wish we lived in London."
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The Rum Runner was
like the sort of premier
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New Romantic club
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in Birmingham
where everybody went.
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It had this really big
kind of entrance
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that was like a big corridor
that was almost like a catwalk.
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It really was just about
showing off.
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It was about going out,
getting your photo taken.
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It was just about
getting attention.
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This is where we found
somewhere to rehearse.
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This is where we found
our management.
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This is where
we found Andy.
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This is where
we found Simon.
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This was like our Cavern,
in a way.
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So I guess within
about a month
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of having gone
to the Rum Runner,
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suddenly it's Nick,
me and Rodge,
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and now we're planning
world domination,
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although we don't have
a guitar player and a singer,
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but this is, like, the--
this is the core.
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We were looking
for a guitar player
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that could play, like,
Nile Rodgers funk,
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but could play, like,
Mick Ronson lead,
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and there weren't that many
who could do that.
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Andy came down
from Newcastle.
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We joke about his style,
you know,
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'cause that wasn't his thing,
but he thought about music,
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and he just right away brought--
he took us to another level.
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♪ Da-da, da-da ♪
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♪ Groovin' now
to X-Ray Spex... ♪
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We all had jobs here
doing different things.
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Nick got the DJ job,
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John worked on the door,
I worked behind the bar.
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and I remember Simon comes
walking down one day,
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and that was
our first meeting.
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When he said his name was
Simon Le Bon,
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we sort of didn't believe
that was his real name,
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but anyway,
turned out it was.
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And he had a lyric book
with him.
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Well,
this was the holy grail.
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There were things in there,
and we started reading through.
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Wow! This would be perfect
if only he can sing.
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♪ All alone ain't much fun ♪
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♪ So you're looking
for the thrill... ♪
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When he started singing,
it was crazy.
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It was just one of those
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fantastic "Eureka!" moments.
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♪ Don't say a prayer
for me now ♪
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♪ Save it till
the morning after ♪
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♪ No, don't say a prayer
for me now ♪
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♪ Save it till
the morning after... ♪
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I thought,
this guy's a star.
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He was tall,
he was well put together,
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and he was really smart.
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I mean, he's a poet,
Simon, you know?
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So at that time particularly,
he was always writing words.
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The gold dust
of the music business
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is words on paper.
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Whatever anybody else
will tell you
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about grooves or notes,
it's all about those lyrics.
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♪ Any other day ♪
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♪ You might have gone
walking by ♪
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♪ Without a second look ♪
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♪ Any other way ♪
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♪ But I'm still mystified ♪
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♪ I'm just trying to
change my luck ♪
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♪ Staring at the world... ♪
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I'm going to take you
to the church,
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'cause we're gonna go
and see Mr. Turvey...
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my old choir master.
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♪ And nobody knows ♪
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♪ What's gonna happen
tomorrow... ♪
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This is the beautiful...
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Church of St. John
the Baptist, Pinner.
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This is where I was a choirboy
for four years.
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This place had a huge effect
on my musical development.
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I grew to love church music
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and the intricacies of it
and the harmonies.
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Hello. Long time.
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-Nice to see you.
-It's been many years.
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So this is where I spent
a lot of time sitting.
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Right here. Yeah.
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There'd be somebody there
who was better than me.
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Until, for a very brief time,
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I became the one
who sat...here.
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So this is myself and you,
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performing
"O For the Wings of a Dove."
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In this
particular place.
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Yes, right. Right here.
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♪ O for the wings ♪
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♪ For the wings of a dove ♪
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-♪ Far away ♪
-Yeah.
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♪ Far away would I rove ♪
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I didn't quite get
my breathing right there.
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I was running out of breath.
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Yes. There's a long note
coming up.
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-Yeah. Totally out of breath.
-Yeah.
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-♪ Far away ♪
-That's it.
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♪ Far away would I rove ♪
250
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I'm a little bit
ahead of the beat as well,
251
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- I think.
- Just a fraction.
252
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That's something
that I've worked
253
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for decades to try
and overcome, actually.
254
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Yeah, mm-hmm. Yeah.
255
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♪ Far away ♪
256
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-That's my favorite note in it.
257
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-That one.
-You got it right that time.
258
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-Yeah.
259
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We thought we were
so great, didn't we?
260
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We thought that we were
gonna take over the world.
261
00:14:16,792 --> 00:14:19,083
But I don't think
we were arrogant, though.
262
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Well, at the time,
we were young.
263
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We were teenagers.
I was 17.
264
00:14:22,542 --> 00:14:25,041
We were a lot more
alike then.
265
00:14:25,041 --> 00:14:27,083
We were really birds
of a feather, you know,
266
00:14:27,083 --> 00:14:29,583
and we had a--
and our dress, really,
267
00:14:29,583 --> 00:14:31,458
I think, helped
define us in a way.
268
00:14:31,458 --> 00:14:33,875
Charlie, you had
some theatrical things.
269
00:14:33,875 --> 00:14:37,458
There was some gray velvet thing
that you had made.
270
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Gray velvet
with purple slashing.
271
00:14:39,959 --> 00:14:41,709
It was right out of
Midsummer Night's Dream.
272
00:14:41,709 --> 00:14:44,417
Yeah, it was.
Oh, my goodness.
273
00:14:44,417 --> 00:14:46,250
-It had bells.
-It had bells on it.
274
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You'd hear him coming down
the corridor with bells.
275
00:14:48,542 --> 00:14:49,917
That was one of the things
276
00:14:49,917 --> 00:14:51,250
that was great about
that period, actually.
277
00:14:51,250 --> 00:14:53,166
None of us were
afraid of color.
278
00:14:53,166 --> 00:14:54,583
-Except Roger.
-Apart from me.
279
00:14:54,583 --> 00:14:56,208
He just used to wear black.
280
00:14:56,208 --> 00:14:58,583
I was completely
afraid of color.
281
00:15:04,041 --> 00:15:05,083
Yeah, yeah.
282
00:15:07,500 --> 00:15:11,250
You look like you
should be in Wham!
283
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Very nice, Roger.
284
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Baby, I'm your man.
285
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- Ooh!
-♪ Come fly with me ♪
286
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I don't think we better go
any deeper into here.
287
00:15:27,583 --> 00:15:29,917
Music at that time
was kind of androgynous.
288
00:15:29,917 --> 00:15:31,959
There was this crossover,
you know,
289
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between girls and boys
wearing the same--
290
00:15:34,917 --> 00:15:36,709
There were clothes
that crossed over,
291
00:15:36,709 --> 00:15:38,166
and we kind of
bought into that.
292
00:15:38,166 --> 00:15:39,959
-We found 'em.
-Yeah, we did.
293
00:15:39,959 --> 00:15:42,667
We used to trawl
the streets of Birmingham
294
00:15:42,667 --> 00:15:46,125
trying to find, uh,
bits of clothing.
295
00:15:46,125 --> 00:15:48,041
Ladies' clothes
that would fit us.
296
00:15:48,041 --> 00:15:50,333
Yes, but we--
Then it was easier, right?
297
00:15:53,291 --> 00:15:55,291
I can see you working
the bumper cars in that outfit.
298
00:15:55,291 --> 00:15:57,208
-Yeah, really? Cheers.
-I quite like that.
299
00:15:57,208 --> 00:15:58,625
Yeah, so do I.
300
00:15:58,625 --> 00:16:01,834
Italian Vogue.
Old habit, you know.
301
00:16:01,834 --> 00:16:04,000
Uh...
302
00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:05,959
We were out at dinner
with Andy Warhol once,
303
00:16:05,959 --> 00:16:07,375
and somebody asked Andy,
304
00:16:07,375 --> 00:16:09,875
"Which do you think
is the coolest Vogue?"
305
00:16:09,875 --> 00:16:13,333
And at the time, I'd made it
as far as Paris Vogue,
306
00:16:13,333 --> 00:16:15,208
and I was really into
Paris Vogue, and he said,
307
00:16:15,208 --> 00:16:17,667
"Oh, Italian Vogue,
definitely."
308
00:16:17,667 --> 00:16:19,750
And we were like,
"Italian Vogue?
309
00:16:19,750 --> 00:16:22,834
Is there one?"
You know?
310
00:16:22,834 --> 00:16:24,417
Pictures of girls.
311
00:16:35,667 --> 00:16:38,166
I first met
Duran Duran around 1980
312
00:16:38,166 --> 00:16:40,083
when they came
into the shop.
313
00:16:40,083 --> 00:16:44,041
We became very good friends.
They had the balls to run around
314
00:16:44,041 --> 00:16:45,917
with all the makeup
and the hair.
315
00:16:45,917 --> 00:16:48,125
This lot
didn't give a damn,
316
00:16:48,125 --> 00:16:50,542
and they'd worked out
that women quite liked it.
317
00:16:50,542 --> 00:16:53,542
So when they came along,
they were a breath of fresh air.
318
00:16:53,542 --> 00:16:56,792
This is from the year...
319
00:16:56,792 --> 00:16:59,000
-Well, that's probably from...
-Well, when you first started.
320
00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:00,166
1981.
321
00:17:04,166 --> 00:17:05,709
I think
after the punk thing,
322
00:17:05,709 --> 00:17:07,041
military was still very much--
323
00:17:07,041 --> 00:17:09,375
Military
was very happening.
324
00:17:09,375 --> 00:17:11,709
But you, of course,
broke the mold for that.
325
00:17:11,709 --> 00:17:14,542
You lot went in
waist-deep into it
326
00:17:14,542 --> 00:17:18,458
♪ I saw you
at the air race yesterday ♪
327
00:17:18,458 --> 00:17:22,000
♪ April showers
get out of my way... ♪
328
00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:25,333
You obviously kept
all these over the years.
329
00:17:25,333 --> 00:17:28,500
-How many are there?
-There's about 10,000 in all.
330
00:17:28,500 --> 00:17:31,458
This was actually worn
in the "Planet Earth" video,
331
00:17:31,458 --> 00:17:33,583
along with
one of your suits.
332
00:17:33,583 --> 00:17:37,083
The shirts were like this one,
because they had to be.
333
00:17:37,083 --> 00:17:39,917
It's the low arm holes
and all of the rest of it.
334
00:17:39,917 --> 00:17:42,000
That's your easy wear.
335
00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:44,166
It wasn't easy wear
on the number 50 bus
336
00:17:44,166 --> 00:17:45,417
from Birmingham.
337
00:17:45,417 --> 00:17:46,917
That's what New Romantic was:
338
00:17:46,917 --> 00:17:48,583
wearing that on the 50 bus.
339
00:17:48,583 --> 00:17:51,000
So this one was from 1983,
340
00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:52,917
and that's from
the front cover
341
00:17:52,917 --> 00:17:55,166
of the Seven
and the Ragged Tiger album.
342
00:17:55,166 --> 00:17:57,208
This fabric's
happening now big-time.
343
00:17:57,208 --> 00:17:59,083
It's everywhere
on the catwalk.
344
00:17:59,083 --> 00:18:02,041
Well, then, only 37 years
ahead of our time.
345
00:18:02,041 --> 00:18:04,291
I remember
when you came to the shop.
346
00:18:04,291 --> 00:18:07,750
We came because
when we finally got
347
00:18:07,750 --> 00:18:10,083
our advance
from EMI records,
348
00:18:10,083 --> 00:18:12,583
and part of it was
a clothing budget for--
349
00:18:12,583 --> 00:18:14,291
Which you insisted on,
of course.
350
00:18:14,291 --> 00:18:15,959
-Of course.
-The first band to do that.
351
00:18:15,959 --> 00:18:18,250
No, the hard work
was writing the songs
352
00:18:18,250 --> 00:18:19,834
and getting
all of that right.
353
00:18:19,834 --> 00:18:21,333
-We know that.
-Finally, when you get to
354
00:18:21,333 --> 00:18:23,333
sort of present it,
that's the fun,
355
00:18:23,333 --> 00:18:25,041
sort of saying,
"How are we going do this?"
356
00:18:25,041 --> 00:18:27,291
-Put it all in positions.
-It ends up like this.
357
00:18:27,291 --> 00:18:29,000
There you go.
358
00:18:31,542 --> 00:18:33,792
Well, perfect for shopping
in Oxford Street.
359
00:18:33,792 --> 00:18:37,166
These are the epitome
of '80s over-the-top.
360
00:18:37,166 --> 00:18:39,959
-Really? You think so?
-Oh, I think so, yeah.
361
00:18:39,959 --> 00:18:42,625
I mean,
they're quite panto-y now,
362
00:18:42,625 --> 00:18:44,333
but at the time
they were right,
363
00:18:44,333 --> 00:18:47,250
because they fused
military with romance.
364
00:18:47,250 --> 00:18:50,333
We've got these
corseted-back trousers here
365
00:18:50,333 --> 00:18:53,458
that were all laced
up the back,
366
00:18:53,458 --> 00:18:55,500
and then
these hanging jackets.
367
00:18:55,500 --> 00:18:58,667
-It's, uh, matador-ish.
-Yeah, yeah.
368
00:18:58,667 --> 00:19:00,750
Somehow
we managed to make it work
369
00:19:00,750 --> 00:19:04,750
because we all had such
individual and personal taste.
370
00:19:04,750 --> 00:19:07,000
We could look at a rail
of clothes now and say,
371
00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:09,709
Roger's gonna like that,
I'm gonna have that one,
372
00:19:09,709 --> 00:19:11,333
-John's gonna like that one.
-Yeah, you could do that.
373
00:19:11,333 --> 00:19:12,792
- Most of the band--
-You were pretty right
374
00:19:12,792 --> 00:19:14,500
because you knew
all their tastes
375
00:19:14,500 --> 00:19:15,750
even better than I did.
376
00:19:18,959 --> 00:19:21,125
Any band,
if you think of anyone you--
377
00:19:21,125 --> 00:19:24,041
anyone in history
that's worth remembering,
378
00:19:24,041 --> 00:19:25,875
they all have an image.
379
00:19:25,875 --> 00:19:29,542
Elvis Presley, Madonna,
Prince, Duran Duran.
380
00:19:29,542 --> 00:19:31,750
They were
Birmingham's peacocks.
381
00:19:34,625 --> 00:19:36,709
There was
this Smash Hits magazine,
382
00:19:36,709 --> 00:19:39,875
and suddenly nobody was reading
any of the weeklies anymore.
383
00:19:39,875 --> 00:19:41,959
There were these, like,
colored magazines
384
00:19:41,959 --> 00:19:43,291
that came out every week,
385
00:19:43,291 --> 00:19:44,583
and it was, like,
perfect for Duran.
386
00:19:44,583 --> 00:19:46,333
It was like,
"There's a John cover.
387
00:19:46,333 --> 00:19:48,709
It's a Roger cover.
It's Simon and Nick."
388
00:19:48,709 --> 00:19:50,375
There was like
an explosion,
389
00:19:50,375 --> 00:19:52,917
and we made ourselves
very available to it.
390
00:20:05,709 --> 00:20:08,709
We went on tour
behind Planet Earth,
391
00:20:08,709 --> 00:20:10,208
and we played Nottingham,
392
00:20:10,208 --> 00:20:12,583
and that show was reviewed
in the NME,
393
00:20:12,583 --> 00:20:15,166
and it was
the meanest review.
394
00:20:15,166 --> 00:20:17,583
"A Ripple in a Stagnant Pool"
was the headline.
395
00:20:17,583 --> 00:20:19,333
I can still remember it
to this day.
396
00:20:19,333 --> 00:20:22,083
And the last line in it was,
"Duran Duran are gonna be huge,
397
00:20:22,083 --> 00:20:24,083
and they really
don't deserve any of it."
398
00:20:24,083 --> 00:20:25,500
And I remember
reading that, thinking,
399
00:20:25,500 --> 00:20:27,291
"That's so mean. Why?"
400
00:20:27,291 --> 00:20:29,500
You know, like, "Why?"
401
00:20:29,500 --> 00:20:32,917
And then we kind of knew
that we were part of this,
402
00:20:32,917 --> 00:20:35,417
and that was probably
after the Smash Hits cover.
403
00:20:35,417 --> 00:20:36,750
And it was like,
404
00:20:36,750 --> 00:20:39,250
so we were a threat
to that institution,
405
00:20:39,250 --> 00:20:41,166
and they weren't
gonna be nice to us,
406
00:20:41,166 --> 00:20:42,959
so we just
had to swallow it.
407
00:20:42,959 --> 00:20:45,917
But the NME never, never--
408
00:20:45,917 --> 00:20:49,959
And it bothered me up until
about a year ago, I think.
409
00:20:52,208 --> 00:20:54,792
The first time
I think that
410
00:20:54,792 --> 00:20:58,625
we recognized that something
different was happening
411
00:20:58,625 --> 00:21:01,750
was when out of nowhere--
it was like a movie set,
412
00:21:01,750 --> 00:21:04,750
and we got
completely mobbed.
413
00:21:04,750 --> 00:21:08,000
And we sensed that
something had changed.
414
00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:11,291
I'm desperate to know
what it's like to be a pop star.
415
00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:14,375
Do you think
it's all full of fast cars,
416
00:21:14,375 --> 00:21:16,166
fast women, fast living?
417
00:21:16,166 --> 00:21:18,333
Well, that's
probably part of it.
418
00:21:18,333 --> 00:21:20,458
-It is, yeah. But...
419
00:21:32,625 --> 00:21:34,000
I love boats.
420
00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:35,959
I do have a boat
a bit similar to this.
421
00:21:35,959 --> 00:21:39,375
It lives in a garage in Italy,
where she was built.
422
00:21:42,166 --> 00:21:44,417
I think living the life
was very much
423
00:21:44,417 --> 00:21:47,750
a sort of a part
of the rock star lifestyle.
424
00:21:51,208 --> 00:21:53,375
We were objects of desire.
425
00:21:55,709 --> 00:21:58,583
And people wanted to
426
00:21:58,583 --> 00:22:00,500
have us at their parties.
427
00:22:00,500 --> 00:22:02,959
So there was
a lot of that.
428
00:22:02,959 --> 00:22:04,792
♪ See them walking
hand in hand ♪
429
00:22:04,792 --> 00:22:08,000
♪ Across the bridge
at midnight... ♪
430
00:22:09,333 --> 00:22:11,291
Duran Duran were like--
it was glamorous.
431
00:22:11,291 --> 00:22:14,166
It was, like,
hot, beautiful locations,
432
00:22:14,166 --> 00:22:17,417
leggy blondes,
yachts and the limousines.
433
00:22:17,417 --> 00:22:19,375
It was aspirational, I think.
434
00:22:19,375 --> 00:22:21,000
That's why I think
people liked it,
435
00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:22,000
because it was like,
436
00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:23,542
you can come from Birmingham,
437
00:22:23,542 --> 00:22:25,125
you can come from
southeast London,
438
00:22:25,125 --> 00:22:27,041
but you can still have
a glamorous life.
439
00:22:31,417 --> 00:22:34,959
I was just, like,
perpetually excited in 1981.
440
00:22:34,959 --> 00:22:37,875
I mean, it was like--
I don't think I slept all year.
441
00:22:37,875 --> 00:22:41,250
I mean, it was just--
it was just so much fun.
442
00:22:41,250 --> 00:22:44,542
It was just... just this
crazy adventure,
443
00:22:44,542 --> 00:22:46,542
and it never really stopped.
444
00:23:05,417 --> 00:23:07,083
It did become the album
445
00:23:07,083 --> 00:23:09,583
that was the most important
in launching our career.
446
00:23:09,583 --> 00:23:15,083
♪ You saw me standing
by the wall ♪
447
00:23:15,083 --> 00:23:17,959
♪ Corner of a main street... ♪
448
00:23:17,959 --> 00:23:20,417
I remember
really being worried,
449
00:23:20,417 --> 00:23:22,000
just briefly,
450
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,125
that it wouldn't be
as good as the first album.
451
00:23:24,125 --> 00:23:28,834
And I used to lay in my bed
and listen to the album,
452
00:23:28,834 --> 00:23:32,750
and I rationed myself to
two entire listens a night
453
00:23:32,750 --> 00:23:34,625
because I didn't want
to wear it out.
454
00:23:34,625 --> 00:23:38,625
But I just loved it.
I thought it was so great.
455
00:23:38,625 --> 00:23:41,333
-♪ Don't say a prayer
456
00:23:41,333 --> 00:23:43,709
♪ For me now ♪
457
00:23:43,709 --> 00:23:47,000
♪ Save it
till the morning after... ♪
458
00:23:48,375 --> 00:23:50,917
Everyone has that record,
459
00:23:50,917 --> 00:23:53,458
and I think Rio
was that record.
460
00:23:53,458 --> 00:23:55,709
It was the sort of thing
that seals the deal.
461
00:23:55,709 --> 00:23:57,709
I remember the sleeve.
462
00:23:57,709 --> 00:24:00,792
I remember hearing the songs
for the first time.
463
00:24:00,792 --> 00:24:02,667
And I think that Rio
was the album
464
00:24:02,667 --> 00:24:06,500
that established Duran Duran
as a kind of global super force,
465
00:24:06,500 --> 00:24:09,917
because it was like,
"Okay, they can write songs."
466
00:24:09,917 --> 00:24:12,125
Rio was like
a masterstroke.
467
00:24:12,125 --> 00:24:13,959
The image on the cover
of that album
468
00:24:13,959 --> 00:24:17,500
so perfectly represents
469
00:24:17,500 --> 00:24:19,667
the sounds in the music.
470
00:24:19,667 --> 00:24:21,500
Whether you're Bowie
or Kanye West,
471
00:24:21,500 --> 00:24:24,750
it doesn't matter,
you're selling a fantasy.
472
00:24:29,834 --> 00:24:31,875
Here we have...
473
00:24:31,875 --> 00:24:35,333
the original Rio painting.
474
00:24:35,333 --> 00:24:38,333
Yes. Still smiling
after all these years.
475
00:24:38,333 --> 00:24:41,333
For our second album
we thought,
476
00:24:41,333 --> 00:24:44,166
"Why don't we stick a beautiful
painting on the cover?"
477
00:24:44,166 --> 00:24:46,291
And actually,
478
00:24:46,291 --> 00:24:49,542
to the credit of Paul Berrow,
one of our managers at the time,
479
00:24:49,542 --> 00:24:53,041
who was an avid reader
of Playboy magazine,
480
00:24:53,041 --> 00:24:57,458
um, he spotted these
beautiful illustrations
481
00:24:57,458 --> 00:25:00,709
done by a Californian artist
called Patrick Nagel
482
00:25:00,709 --> 00:25:04,542
and brought them and said,
"Chaps, do you like these?"
483
00:25:04,542 --> 00:25:06,875
And we looked and said,
"Actually, yeah."
484
00:25:06,875 --> 00:25:10,792
They've got a real energy
and a brightness,
485
00:25:10,792 --> 00:25:14,083
and they represented
the period so well,
486
00:25:14,083 --> 00:25:17,667
it's become a symbol
of that whole decade.
487
00:25:17,667 --> 00:25:20,125
But for us,
she's got a very lucky smile
488
00:25:20,125 --> 00:25:22,709
because that period was amazing,
and the Rio album
489
00:25:22,709 --> 00:25:25,625
was really what established us
around the world.
490
00:25:47,917 --> 00:25:51,417
This was the home
to Duran Duran in the '80s,
491
00:25:51,417 --> 00:25:53,834
when we were in Los Angeles.
492
00:25:53,834 --> 00:25:55,250
We've got
all The Beatles here.
493
00:25:55,250 --> 00:25:58,083
We've got John, George,
494
00:25:58,083 --> 00:26:00,417
Ringo,
and then Paul McCartney.
495
00:26:00,417 --> 00:26:02,166
I know I wouldn't
be standing here
496
00:26:02,166 --> 00:26:03,792
without those guys.
497
00:26:03,792 --> 00:26:06,250
Then we go on
to Buddy Holly,
498
00:26:06,250 --> 00:26:07,959
but then they probably
wouldn't be there
499
00:26:07,959 --> 00:26:10,083
without Buddy Holly,
so that's cool.
500
00:26:10,083 --> 00:26:13,709
Moving on. Tina Turner,
and Tina Turner's bicycle,
501
00:26:13,709 --> 00:26:15,625
which is a permanent show
here now.
502
00:26:15,625 --> 00:26:17,750
I'm getting a warm feeling.
503
00:26:17,750 --> 00:26:20,291
Capitol Recording artists
Duran Duran.
504
00:26:21,667 --> 00:26:24,250
It's a big deal
in terms of, like,
505
00:26:24,250 --> 00:26:26,250
where you're from, I guess.
506
00:26:26,250 --> 00:26:28,125
I don't think many of my
schoolmates have got one.
507
00:26:28,125 --> 00:26:30,458
We got a lot of prizes
in the early '80s.
508
00:26:30,458 --> 00:26:32,375
I took them for granted.
I was like-- you know.
509
00:26:32,375 --> 00:26:36,208
But as I've gotten older,
I've come to appreciate them,
510
00:26:36,208 --> 00:26:38,125
and display them, even.
511
00:26:38,125 --> 00:26:41,375
And I think to know
where you come in the evolution
512
00:26:41,375 --> 00:26:44,333
of, uh,
popular music, you know,
513
00:26:44,333 --> 00:26:47,041
contemporary culture, you know,
that we've got a place--
514
00:26:47,041 --> 00:26:49,959
we've got a place in that,
it feels good.
515
00:26:57,333 --> 00:27:00,041
They were such a seminal
band for me as a kid, you know.
516
00:27:00,041 --> 00:27:03,208
Like, I really loved them.
They had great pop songs,
517
00:27:03,208 --> 00:27:04,834
great melody, great band.
518
00:27:04,834 --> 00:27:07,125
There's a reason that
they sold 18 million records.
519
00:27:07,125 --> 00:27:10,250
They were just attuned
to writing
520
00:27:10,250 --> 00:27:12,917
really universal,
great songs.
521
00:27:12,917 --> 00:27:15,250
What's your first memory
of being in this building?
522
00:27:15,250 --> 00:27:17,792
I'm not sure they ever
really knew what to do with us.
523
00:27:17,792 --> 00:27:20,625
EMI in London just kept
pressurizing Capitol
524
00:27:20,625 --> 00:27:24,625
into basically making more
effort to break the band,
525
00:27:24,625 --> 00:27:27,917
and it was really with Rio
that they said,
526
00:27:27,917 --> 00:27:29,834
"Look, you've got to
make this happen."
527
00:27:29,834 --> 00:27:31,834
To me, definitely
the first album
528
00:27:31,834 --> 00:27:34,667
had a lot of the seeds
of what became, like,
529
00:27:34,667 --> 00:27:37,375
the iconic early
Duran Duran sound,
530
00:27:37,375 --> 00:27:40,667
but Rio is probably--
and also just 'cause
531
00:27:40,667 --> 00:27:42,834
the level of songwriting
just went like this.
532
00:27:42,834 --> 00:27:44,875
Do you feel like Rio
is where you sort of forged
533
00:27:44,875 --> 00:27:47,000
-the Duran sound?
-Definitely.
534
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,792
It was a development
from the first--
535
00:27:49,792 --> 00:27:52,458
All the basic ideas--
I mean, you just nailed it,
536
00:27:52,458 --> 00:27:54,959
the funky rhythm section,
you know,
537
00:27:54,959 --> 00:27:58,083
sort of Moroder-esque
synths, you know,
538
00:27:58,083 --> 00:28:00,458
but also that kind of--
that chunky rock guitar.
539
00:28:00,458 --> 00:28:02,166
-Yeah, Steve Jones guitars.
-Yeah.
540
00:28:02,166 --> 00:28:04,542
And also, the other thing
is, like,
541
00:28:04,542 --> 00:28:08,375
probably because your whole,
you know, pin-ups
542
00:28:08,375 --> 00:28:10,250
and all this
kind of thing at first,
543
00:28:10,250 --> 00:28:12,041
nobody really wanted
to give you credit
544
00:28:12,041 --> 00:28:14,834
or the fact that everybody
was a great musician.
545
00:28:14,834 --> 00:28:18,417
I think for all the excitement
of the punk rock era,
546
00:28:18,417 --> 00:28:22,125
the post-punk era
was really exciting too,
547
00:28:22,125 --> 00:28:24,041
because you had kids saying,
"I want to be a bass player."
548
00:28:24,041 --> 00:28:26,583
Roger and I were like,
"We wanna be a rhythm section."
549
00:28:26,583 --> 00:28:29,792
That sound, like, when I play
"The Chauffeur" in my head,
550
00:28:29,792 --> 00:28:32,750
that sound of Roger's drums
on top,
551
00:28:32,750 --> 00:28:35,542
locked into the sequence
of whatever Nick was doing,
552
00:28:35,542 --> 00:28:38,250
and then you with that,
is such an important part.
553
00:28:38,250 --> 00:28:39,834
I feel like
"The Chauffeur,"
554
00:28:39,834 --> 00:28:41,083
sonically
and everything about it,
555
00:28:41,083 --> 00:28:42,583
if came out tomorrow
and you said,
556
00:28:42,583 --> 00:28:45,208
"Oh, this is
a new Killers tune,"
557
00:28:45,208 --> 00:28:46,583
you would believe it.
558
00:28:46,583 --> 00:28:49,875
♪ And watching lovers part ♪
559
00:28:49,875 --> 00:28:52,917
♪ I feel you smiling ♪
560
00:28:52,917 --> 00:28:58,375
♪ What glass splinters lie
so deep in your mind? ♪
561
00:28:58,375 --> 00:29:00,250
♪ To tear out
from your eyes ♪
562
00:29:00,250 --> 00:29:04,166
♪ With a thought to stiffen
brooding lies ♪
563
00:29:04,166 --> 00:29:08,458
♪ And I'll only watch you
leave me further behind... ♪
564
00:29:08,458 --> 00:29:11,750
When we first came to New York,
I remember our managers
565
00:29:11,750 --> 00:29:14,041
meeting with these guys
566
00:29:14,041 --> 00:29:16,625
that were putting MTV together,
and they were like,
567
00:29:16,625 --> 00:29:18,291
"Look, we can't play
'Stairway to Heaven' all day,
568
00:29:18,291 --> 00:29:20,291
"like what happens
on the radio.
569
00:29:20,291 --> 00:29:22,125
"We need to get more
into new music,
570
00:29:22,125 --> 00:29:24,125
"and it'd be great if you could
give us something really
571
00:29:24,125 --> 00:29:26,083
kind of like
a James Bond film."
572
00:29:26,083 --> 00:29:28,125
-Right.
-And our manager went away,
573
00:29:28,125 --> 00:29:31,750
and that's where the Sri Lanka
video idea came from.
574
00:29:31,750 --> 00:29:34,750
♪ In touch with the ground ♪
575
00:29:34,750 --> 00:29:38,250
♪ I'm on the hunt
I'm after you ♪
576
00:29:38,250 --> 00:29:41,875
♪ Smell like I sound
I'm lost in a crowd ♪
577
00:29:41,875 --> 00:29:45,959
♪ And I'm hungry
like the wolf... ♪
578
00:29:45,959 --> 00:29:51,125
MTV was, like, such a big part
of my teenage life.
579
00:29:51,125 --> 00:29:54,041
I mean, that's how
we got our music.
580
00:29:54,041 --> 00:29:59,917
And I think Duran Duran
was such a perfect band
581
00:29:59,917 --> 00:30:01,917
for this new way
582
00:30:01,917 --> 00:30:06,125
that people were getting music,
which was through television.
583
00:30:06,125 --> 00:30:10,291
♪ Stalked in the forest
too close to hide ♪
584
00:30:10,291 --> 00:30:13,333
♪ I'll be upon you
by the moonlight side... ♪
585
00:30:13,333 --> 00:30:17,166
They were really some of
the pioneers in music videos.
586
00:30:17,166 --> 00:30:19,583
That was just the age where
587
00:30:19,583 --> 00:30:22,291
we didn't know what to expect,
and anything could go.
588
00:30:22,291 --> 00:30:24,834
♪ And your skin
it's so tight ♪
589
00:30:24,834 --> 00:30:27,500
♪ You feel my heat
I'm just a moment behind... ♪
590
00:30:27,500 --> 00:30:29,917
There was something
about it when we were there
591
00:30:29,917 --> 00:30:32,417
that we knew
that it was new ground.
592
00:30:32,417 --> 00:30:34,166
It was very exotic.
593
00:30:34,166 --> 00:30:36,834
And we were very lucky to have
Russell Mulcahy directing,
594
00:30:36,834 --> 00:30:39,875
because at that time,
he was the guy.
595
00:30:39,875 --> 00:30:42,208
He had just done "Vienna"
for Ultravox
596
00:30:42,208 --> 00:30:44,583
and all the coolest things
that were out there, really.
597
00:30:44,583 --> 00:30:46,458
♪ I'm lost and I'm found ♪
598
00:30:46,458 --> 00:30:50,458
♪ And I'm hungry
like the wolf... ♪
599
00:30:50,458 --> 00:30:51,959
With Duran, it was a bit
600
00:30:51,959 --> 00:30:54,041
like being a tourist
with a big camera.
601
00:30:54,041 --> 00:30:57,583
♪ I howl and I whine
I'm after you... ♪
602
00:30:57,583 --> 00:30:59,667
I had very much
a cinematic vision,
603
00:30:59,667 --> 00:31:01,583
they had a vision
with their music,
604
00:31:01,583 --> 00:31:04,458
and the managers had a vision
about, "Let's make it big
605
00:31:04,458 --> 00:31:07,041
and-and stand out
from the rest."
606
00:31:08,208 --> 00:31:11,542
We just wanted
to raise the bar.
607
00:31:12,709 --> 00:31:14,041
On first glance,
608
00:31:14,041 --> 00:31:16,500
it looks like a guy
chasing a girl.
609
00:31:16,500 --> 00:31:19,417
It's slightly uncomfortable,
actually.
610
00:31:19,417 --> 00:31:21,750
But it's us
chasing our career,
611
00:31:21,750 --> 00:31:25,166
trying to make it happen,
and we were so hungry.
612
00:31:25,166 --> 00:31:27,375
We would chase
and we would grab
613
00:31:27,375 --> 00:31:29,083
and we would achieve.
614
00:31:29,083 --> 00:31:31,667
And that is what
that song's about.
615
00:31:31,667 --> 00:31:34,917
Then after that,
the travelogue continued,
616
00:31:34,917 --> 00:31:39,083
and hence we ended up doing
the "Rio" video in Antigua.
617
00:31:45,417 --> 00:31:47,625
That was wild.
I mean, we sort of--
618
00:31:47,625 --> 00:31:50,125
That one we actually
just made up on the spot.
619
00:31:50,125 --> 00:31:53,083
I would say in the morning,
"Okay, I need, um--
620
00:31:53,083 --> 00:31:54,667
"I need a mirror,
621
00:31:54,667 --> 00:31:57,667
I need a bed, I want
to put it on the beach."
622
00:31:59,625 --> 00:32:02,166
♪ Moving on the floor
now, babe ♪
623
00:32:02,166 --> 00:32:06,250
♪ You're a bird
of paradise ♪
624
00:32:06,250 --> 00:32:09,125
♪ Cherry ice cream smile ♪
625
00:32:09,125 --> 00:32:12,083
♪ I suppose it's very nice... ♪
626
00:32:12,083 --> 00:32:14,125
The classic shot
eventually ended up being
627
00:32:14,125 --> 00:32:17,291
Simon at the front of the boat
with the boys hanging off,
628
00:32:17,291 --> 00:32:20,291
and the cameraman was sitting
at the top of the boat,
629
00:32:20,291 --> 00:32:22,458
on the--
whatever you call it--
630
00:32:22,458 --> 00:32:25,166
with no harness, hand-held,
631
00:32:25,166 --> 00:32:28,083
hanging on to the thing
like that.
632
00:32:28,083 --> 00:32:29,709
Song blasting away,
633
00:32:29,709 --> 00:32:32,417
the boys were all in their
sort of tailored suits,
634
00:32:32,417 --> 00:32:35,041
very expensive suits,
getting splashed with seawater,
635
00:32:35,041 --> 00:32:38,959
ruining the suits, of course,
and we just had a lot of fun.
636
00:32:38,959 --> 00:32:42,709
♪ Down to the Rio Grande... ♪
637
00:32:46,834 --> 00:32:49,667
The yacht was such
a powerful image.
638
00:32:49,667 --> 00:32:52,834
With us all with the colored
Antony Price suits,
639
00:32:52,834 --> 00:32:54,667
it really worked beautifully.
640
00:32:54,667 --> 00:32:58,834
♪ Doo-doo,
doo-doo-doo, doo-doo ♪
641
00:32:58,834 --> 00:33:01,417
♪ Doo-doo, doo-doo-doo,
doo-doo... ♪
642
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:11,500
Rio was a very hard record
to follow, in hindsight.
643
00:33:11,500 --> 00:33:14,500
We made a classic album
with Rio.
644
00:33:14,500 --> 00:33:17,041
And I think it was first time
that we really felt
645
00:33:17,041 --> 00:33:19,917
the pressure of having to
follow something up.
646
00:33:28,875 --> 00:33:32,875
The Ragged Tiger
is that kind of
647
00:33:32,875 --> 00:33:37,583
dirty but incredible...
648
00:33:38,917 --> 00:33:41,375
charismatic animal
649
00:33:41,375 --> 00:33:44,583
that is success.
650
00:33:44,583 --> 00:33:48,542
♪ I knew this was
a big mistake... ♪
651
00:33:51,750 --> 00:33:53,792
Hello, good evening,
652
00:33:53,792 --> 00:33:55,208
and welcome to our show.
653
00:34:01,834 --> 00:34:03,583
This is a dressing room,
654
00:34:03,583 --> 00:34:05,333
and by the nature
of the word "dressing,"
655
00:34:05,333 --> 00:34:07,291
it means everyone has to change,
so fuck off.
656
00:34:07,291 --> 00:34:09,375
What we really want to tell you
is we're gonna do this.
657
00:34:09,375 --> 00:34:10,500
Good night.
658
00:34:13,375 --> 00:34:16,834
The demands on us
had become absurd
659
00:34:16,834 --> 00:34:19,417
because I think a lot
of the business people
660
00:34:19,417 --> 00:34:21,125
had smelled the money
661
00:34:21,125 --> 00:34:23,375
everywhere that they
possibly could,
662
00:34:23,375 --> 00:34:26,750
and they just wanted more
and more and more and more.
663
00:34:26,750 --> 00:34:31,750
♪ The union of the snake
is on the climb... ♪
664
00:34:31,750 --> 00:34:33,208
Our accountants were saying,
665
00:34:33,208 --> 00:34:34,667
"You can't stay in England
666
00:34:34,667 --> 00:34:36,250
because you're gonna pay
all this tax."
667
00:34:36,250 --> 00:34:39,250
So we decamped
to the South of France,
668
00:34:39,250 --> 00:34:41,792
and we end up in this château
in the middle of nowhere.
669
00:34:43,583 --> 00:34:45,834
It was wonderful.
670
00:34:45,834 --> 00:34:47,959
The scenery
was fantastic.
671
00:34:47,959 --> 00:34:50,000
And they had
swimming pool
672
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,125
and tennis courts,
673
00:34:52,125 --> 00:34:55,291
and we didn't get
a lot of work done.
674
00:34:55,291 --> 00:34:56,625
I get up and...
675
00:34:56,625 --> 00:34:58,959
have a bath
and a wee-wee.
676
00:34:58,959 --> 00:35:00,291
Have lunch.
677
00:35:00,291 --> 00:35:02,959
-Play a bit of tennis.
-And then I wake up.
678
00:35:02,959 --> 00:35:05,208
I mean, I was all
into the swimming pool
679
00:35:05,208 --> 00:35:06,458
and the tennis courts.
680
00:35:06,458 --> 00:35:10,792
John was bringing
his girls down.
681
00:35:10,792 --> 00:35:14,250
Andy was getting
a bit high.
682
00:35:14,250 --> 00:35:16,583
John and Andy were funding
683
00:35:16,583 --> 00:35:20,625
South American countries
with their, uh...
684
00:35:20,625 --> 00:35:22,625
with their pocket money.
685
00:35:22,625 --> 00:35:24,750
They were up very, very,
very late at night,
686
00:35:24,750 --> 00:35:26,750
but not in the studio
so much.
687
00:35:26,750 --> 00:35:29,458
It was like, nobody was a saint
in that band.
688
00:35:29,458 --> 00:35:31,333
I mean,
why would you be?
689
00:35:31,333 --> 00:35:33,166
There's so much
being served up,
690
00:35:33,166 --> 00:35:34,917
being offered to us.
691
00:35:34,917 --> 00:35:37,083
You've got drugs,
you've got alcohol--
692
00:35:37,083 --> 00:35:39,000
You know, there's
a whole load of things.
693
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,583
It's a--
It's a minefield, really.
694
00:35:41,583 --> 00:35:45,083
And even in amongst
all of the fraternal
695
00:35:45,083 --> 00:35:46,792
kind of fun and games,
696
00:35:46,792 --> 00:35:48,333
there was loneliness
as well.
697
00:35:48,333 --> 00:35:51,750
So, you know,
698
00:35:51,750 --> 00:35:54,000
I don't think
anybody relished
699
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:57,166
sleeping alone
if it could be avoided.
700
00:35:57,166 --> 00:35:59,750
♪ The reflex,
fle-fle-fle-fle-flex ♪
701
00:35:59,750 --> 00:36:02,166
♪ You've gone too far
this time ♪
702
00:36:02,166 --> 00:36:04,667
♪ But I'm dancing... ♪
703
00:36:04,667 --> 00:36:07,875
The tour for that album
704
00:36:07,875 --> 00:36:10,875
in '83-'84
705
00:36:10,875 --> 00:36:14,458
was the height of
everything coming together.
706
00:36:14,458 --> 00:36:17,750
All the insanity
from every single place
707
00:36:17,750 --> 00:36:20,500
just came to meet us
in America.
708
00:36:22,959 --> 00:36:25,792
We couldn't hear what we were
playing most of the time
709
00:36:25,792 --> 00:36:28,458
because the noise
of the audience
710
00:36:28,458 --> 00:36:31,000
was just overwhelming.
711
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:32,291
And they were all
teenage girls,
712
00:36:32,291 --> 00:36:35,166
so it was all
this certain pitch.
713
00:36:35,166 --> 00:36:36,875
It was like hitting...
714
00:36:36,875 --> 00:36:39,375
very heavy weather
in an airplane.
715
00:36:39,375 --> 00:36:41,375
And we were just looking
at each other, going,
716
00:36:41,375 --> 00:36:43,625
"Whoa, whoa! Hang on! Hang on!"
717
00:36:43,625 --> 00:36:47,625
I have photograph
upon photograph
718
00:36:47,625 --> 00:36:50,333
of girls
screaming and crying.
719
00:36:50,333 --> 00:36:51,959
I wasn't prepared
for the fact
720
00:36:51,959 --> 00:36:53,583
that it was
the Beatles, effectively.
721
00:36:53,583 --> 00:36:56,500
it was madness, carnage,
everywhere we went.
722
00:37:01,458 --> 00:37:05,083
We were hemmed into the hotels.
We couldn't move at that point.
723
00:37:05,083 --> 00:37:07,625
Every time you tried to leave
the hotel, there would be
724
00:37:07,625 --> 00:37:11,917
200 teenage girls
trying to rip you apart.
725
00:37:11,917 --> 00:37:15,250
♪ Finding treasure
in the dark ♪
726
00:37:15,250 --> 00:37:19,125
♪ And watching over
lucky clover ♪
727
00:37:19,125 --> 00:37:22,083
♪ Isn't that bizarre... ♪
728
00:37:22,083 --> 00:37:24,667
It's absolutely incredible.
There's tons of people here.
729
00:37:24,667 --> 00:37:26,917
I think there's
about 2,000,
730
00:37:26,917 --> 00:37:29,125
3,000, four million,
you never know.
731
00:37:29,125 --> 00:37:31,750
Did you think they'd
have to bring in police horses
732
00:37:31,750 --> 00:37:33,000
to keep the people quiet?
733
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:34,375
Have they got
police horses out there?
734
00:37:34,375 --> 00:37:35,917
Oh, God, where are they?
735
00:37:35,917 --> 00:37:37,417
The fans began to realize
736
00:37:37,417 --> 00:37:39,333
that all they had to do
was phone the top hotels,
737
00:37:39,333 --> 00:37:41,875
wait for my name, then they'd
know where the band was staying.
738
00:37:41,875 --> 00:37:44,166
And I'd get the phone
call at 2:00 in the morning
739
00:37:44,166 --> 00:37:47,583
asking how John was,
or the fire alarm would go off
740
00:37:47,583 --> 00:37:50,166
and the whole hotel
then had to evacuate.
741
00:37:50,166 --> 00:37:53,875
And that's how fans
got to meet the band.
742
00:37:53,875 --> 00:37:57,125
♪ Who's waiting by the park ♪
743
00:37:57,125 --> 00:38:00,375
♪ The reflex
Is in charge of finding... ♪
744
00:38:00,375 --> 00:38:04,417
It was... wild.
745
00:38:04,417 --> 00:38:08,041
I had somebody
in a wardrobe in my room.
746
00:38:08,041 --> 00:38:09,834
I checked into my room,
747
00:38:09,834 --> 00:38:13,375
and I opened the wardrobe
when I was unpacking,
748
00:38:13,375 --> 00:38:16,458
and there was
a girl in there.
749
00:38:16,458 --> 00:38:18,667
It was like losing
your virginity, you know.
750
00:38:18,667 --> 00:38:21,458
We were never the same again.
It was like-- You know?
751
00:38:21,458 --> 00:38:26,709
♪ What a game,
he's hiding all the cards ♪
752
00:38:26,709 --> 00:38:30,333
♪ The reflex is
in charge of finding... ♪
753
00:38:32,875 --> 00:38:35,500
I think by the end
of the U.S. tour,
754
00:38:35,500 --> 00:38:39,333
we'd literally been
deep-fried daily
755
00:38:39,333 --> 00:38:41,333
for months on end.
756
00:38:41,333 --> 00:38:43,542
Of course, pettiness
757
00:38:43,542 --> 00:38:46,375
and misunderstandings
758
00:38:46,375 --> 00:38:49,333
had started to set in
within the band.
759
00:38:49,333 --> 00:38:53,625
We really for the first time
had had enough of each other
760
00:38:53,625 --> 00:38:57,166
We all kind of went...
761
00:38:57,166 --> 00:38:59,583
John and Andy
762
00:38:59,583 --> 00:39:02,667
wanted to be more rock,
and they did Power Station.
763
00:39:02,667 --> 00:39:06,667
Me and Nick decided
we wanted to be more arty,
764
00:39:06,667 --> 00:39:09,000
and we started Arcadia.
765
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:10,792
Roger didn't know
which bloody camp
766
00:39:10,792 --> 00:39:12,834
to be in,
so he did a bit of both.
767
00:39:12,834 --> 00:39:14,250
It was kind of like two boats
768
00:39:14,250 --> 00:39:16,542
were sailing off
in different directions,
769
00:39:16,542 --> 00:39:18,917
and I kinda had
one leg on one boat
770
00:39:18,917 --> 00:39:20,417
and one leg on the other.
771
00:39:20,417 --> 00:39:23,166
And I got kinda stretched
in between, actually,
772
00:39:23,166 --> 00:39:25,041
which was a bit painful.
773
00:39:25,041 --> 00:39:27,208
I know
you've been here all day,
774
00:39:27,208 --> 00:39:29,583
but if you've got
any energy left,
775
00:39:29,583 --> 00:39:33,000
we'd like to see you dancing!
776
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,667
When Bob Geldof calls you
and says, you know,
777
00:39:35,667 --> 00:39:37,542
"I'm doing this project.
778
00:39:37,542 --> 00:39:40,542
It's gonna save millions
of lives in Africa,"
779
00:39:40,542 --> 00:39:42,583
you can't say,
"No, we're on a break."
780
00:39:42,583 --> 00:39:45,792
When we got together
in Philadelphia,
781
00:39:45,792 --> 00:39:47,625
we were really in two camps.
782
00:39:53,750 --> 00:39:55,667
The atmosphere
was completely toxic.
783
00:39:55,667 --> 00:39:59,417
Nobody wanted to be
together at that point.
784
00:39:59,417 --> 00:40:00,750
Which was quite sad, really,
785
00:40:00,750 --> 00:40:02,917
because we'd been so close
a few years ago,
786
00:40:02,917 --> 00:40:05,542
and suddenly it was like
we could hardly bear
787
00:40:05,542 --> 00:40:08,333
to be in the same room
as each other.
788
00:40:08,333 --> 00:40:10,583
Just got to the point
where I couldn't--
789
00:40:10,583 --> 00:40:12,542
I couldn't deal with it anymore.
790
00:40:12,542 --> 00:40:14,917
I got up every morning
791
00:40:14,917 --> 00:40:17,917
feeling unhappy
with what I was doing.
792
00:40:17,917 --> 00:40:21,208
I was sensible enough
at the age of 25
793
00:40:21,208 --> 00:40:24,875
to think, you know, I'm gonna
walk away from this.
794
00:40:24,875 --> 00:40:27,417
I remember when Roger
left the band just thinking,
795
00:40:27,417 --> 00:40:30,166
"What a weird thing to do."
It just--
796
00:40:30,166 --> 00:40:33,125
Who leaves a band when
they're that successful?
797
00:40:33,125 --> 00:40:34,583
Because I sort of knew him.
798
00:40:34,583 --> 00:40:36,417
I just thought,
he's obviously gone mad.
799
00:40:36,417 --> 00:40:39,792
♪ The new moon on Monday ♪
800
00:40:39,792 --> 00:40:44,583
♪ And a fire dance
through the night ♪
801
00:40:44,583 --> 00:40:48,166
♪ I stayed the cold day... ♪
802
00:40:51,917 --> 00:40:54,625
♪ Notorious, notorious ♪
803
00:40:58,125 --> 00:41:01,166
♪ No-No, notorious... ♪
804
00:41:06,125 --> 00:41:08,583
We were fighting for our lives,
you know?
805
00:41:08,583 --> 00:41:11,291
Because the band
had had its moment.
806
00:41:11,291 --> 00:41:15,834
♪ I can't read about it... ♪
807
00:41:15,834 --> 00:41:18,834
We realized that
this was a real crisis.
808
00:41:18,834 --> 00:41:20,417
It was survival.
809
00:41:20,417 --> 00:41:24,333
♪ I'll do fine without it... ♪
810
00:41:24,333 --> 00:41:25,750
Andy kind of, you know,
811
00:41:25,750 --> 00:41:28,041
dicked us around
for about six months, actually.
812
00:41:28,041 --> 00:41:31,000
We didn't know whether
he was coming or going.
813
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,000
Maybe he wasn't getting
his rocks off,
814
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:34,875
the music
wasn't speaking to him,
815
00:41:34,875 --> 00:41:37,417
he was getting frustrated
with the style of the music
816
00:41:37,417 --> 00:41:39,709
and the direction
the music was taking.
817
00:41:39,709 --> 00:41:43,625
The three of us came together
in such an insanely--
818
00:41:43,625 --> 00:41:45,875
like, with our backs
to the wall--
819
00:41:45,875 --> 00:41:47,750
but it was so galvanizing.
820
00:41:47,750 --> 00:41:49,583
The desire
to prove ourselves
821
00:41:49,583 --> 00:41:53,041
was more powerful than
it had been at the beginning.
822
00:41:53,041 --> 00:41:56,709
Whereas we were in two camps
at Live Aid,
823
00:41:56,709 --> 00:41:58,041
six, eight months later,
824
00:41:58,041 --> 00:42:00,125
the three of us
were in a new camp,
825
00:42:00,125 --> 00:42:02,041
and it was our camp,
and it was the trio camp.
826
00:42:02,041 --> 00:42:04,458
♪ I heard you promise
but I don't believe it ♪
827
00:42:04,458 --> 00:42:06,125
♪ That's why I did it again... ♪
828
00:42:06,125 --> 00:42:09,542
So as things have always
seemed to happen with us,
829
00:42:09,542 --> 00:42:13,667
it was one door closed,
another door opened.
830
00:42:13,667 --> 00:42:15,750
And standing
in that doorway
831
00:42:15,750 --> 00:42:18,166
was Sir Nile of Rodgers,
832
00:42:18,166 --> 00:42:21,208
who came in
and really oversaw
833
00:42:21,208 --> 00:42:23,250
the Notorious project.
834
00:42:23,250 --> 00:42:25,750
As soon as
we met each other,
835
00:42:25,750 --> 00:42:28,417
it was...
836
00:42:28,417 --> 00:42:31,083
goddamn, like
love at first sight.
837
00:42:31,083 --> 00:42:34,166
We had so much fun.
We were making music
838
00:42:34,166 --> 00:42:36,417
the same way
Chic makes music,
839
00:42:36,417 --> 00:42:39,291
the same way
Luther Vandross makes music.
840
00:42:39,291 --> 00:42:42,583
When you meet an artist,
841
00:42:42,583 --> 00:42:46,250
and there's that kind
of connection right away,
842
00:42:46,250 --> 00:42:48,417
you know that big things
are gonna happen.
843
00:42:48,417 --> 00:42:49,792
Three, four...
844
00:42:51,750 --> 00:42:53,458
He's fantastic to be around.
845
00:42:53,458 --> 00:42:55,291
He has a great energy,
846
00:42:55,291 --> 00:42:58,291
a joy, a joyfulness
about the way he plays
847
00:42:58,291 --> 00:43:01,250
and the way he approaches
songwriting and recording.
848
00:43:06,917 --> 00:43:09,250
That sounds like music
to me, man.
849
00:43:09,250 --> 00:43:11,792
When we'd finished it,
and we were all pretty pleased,
850
00:43:11,792 --> 00:43:15,125
we were just doing the mixes,
and we'd sent
851
00:43:15,125 --> 00:43:17,709
an almost complete version
to the record label,
852
00:43:17,709 --> 00:43:20,291
and they'd come back,
and they'd said,
853
00:43:20,291 --> 00:43:22,083
"Uh, we've got a problem.
854
00:43:22,083 --> 00:43:23,667
"We can't put this out.
855
00:43:23,667 --> 00:43:25,458
"It doesn't sound
like Duran Duran.
856
00:43:25,458 --> 00:43:27,291
It's-It's-- Um...
857
00:43:27,291 --> 00:43:28,917
It's far too urban."
858
00:43:28,917 --> 00:43:31,375
But we just told them
we were changing direction,
859
00:43:31,375 --> 00:43:32,625
and that was that.
860
00:43:32,625 --> 00:43:34,041
I think
they just saw the boat
861
00:43:34,041 --> 00:43:35,709
going the other way
down the river
862
00:43:35,709 --> 00:43:37,125
with all their money on it.
863
00:43:37,125 --> 00:43:40,125
When your record's
not as successful
864
00:43:40,125 --> 00:43:42,667
as the one before,
nobody wants to talk to you.
865
00:43:42,667 --> 00:43:44,792
The press don't want
to talk to you,
866
00:43:44,792 --> 00:43:47,000
the music press
aren't interested
867
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:48,375
because it's other things.
868
00:43:48,375 --> 00:43:50,625
"You can't get
on the radio because
869
00:43:50,625 --> 00:43:52,583
"you're old stuff, man.
you're old news.
870
00:43:52,583 --> 00:43:55,125
We've got new stuff
we're playing here on Radio 1."
871
00:43:55,125 --> 00:43:56,583
So you sit there
872
00:43:56,583 --> 00:44:00,000
in your business manager' office
in New York City,
873
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:04,000
looking at the pictures of all
the other acts he's working on
874
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:07,000
and talking about,
"What can we do to save this?
875
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,500
What can we do
to make it work?"
876
00:44:09,500 --> 00:44:12,625
The first time it happens,
it's really scary,
877
00:44:12,625 --> 00:44:16,000
because you thought
it would carry on forever.
878
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:18,834
But it happens.
You get through it.
879
00:44:18,834 --> 00:44:22,500
And the next time it happens,
it's not so bad.
880
00:44:22,500 --> 00:44:25,458
And the next time it happens,
it's not so bad.
881
00:44:25,458 --> 00:44:27,458
And then you just get
to a point where you think,
882
00:44:27,458 --> 00:44:28,583
"You know what?
883
00:44:28,583 --> 00:44:30,750
"Let's just relax
and do what we do.
884
00:44:30,750 --> 00:44:32,917
"Do we believe
in the music we make?
885
00:44:32,917 --> 00:44:34,542
"Yes, we do.
886
00:44:34,542 --> 00:44:36,417
"Can we go in
and write new stuff?
887
00:44:36,417 --> 00:44:38,125
"Have you still
got stuff inside you
888
00:44:38,125 --> 00:44:39,500
"that you want to say?
889
00:44:39,500 --> 00:44:41,875
Yes, I have. Yes, we can."
And you do it.
890
00:44:43,542 --> 00:44:44,875
♪ Notorious ♪
891
00:44:46,125 --> 00:44:49,375
♪ No-No, Notorious ♪
892
00:45:03,542 --> 00:45:06,041
♪ Hey, child... ♪
893
00:45:06,041 --> 00:45:08,250
At that time,
we were looking to move
894
00:45:08,250 --> 00:45:10,000
into a new phase of the band
895
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:11,333
and what
that band looked like.
896
00:45:11,333 --> 00:45:12,917
We'd gotten away
from the early '80s,
897
00:45:12,917 --> 00:45:15,750
and we were looking to
sort of redefine ourselves.
898
00:45:17,333 --> 00:45:19,917
♪ Who do you need ♪
899
00:45:19,917 --> 00:45:23,417
♪ Who do you love ♪
900
00:45:23,417 --> 00:45:25,750
♪ When you come undone? ♪
901
00:45:25,750 --> 00:45:28,083
We knew there was this guy,
Nick Egan,
902
00:45:28,083 --> 00:45:29,458
and he did
lots of cool stuff.
903
00:45:29,458 --> 00:45:31,583
He's got that same interest
904
00:45:31,583 --> 00:45:34,750
in art and music
and fashion.
905
00:45:34,750 --> 00:45:36,458
I've worked with the Clash,
906
00:45:36,458 --> 00:45:37,709
I've worked with Bob Dylan,
907
00:45:37,709 --> 00:45:39,083
I've worked with
Malcolm McLaren.
908
00:45:39,083 --> 00:45:41,583
My first cover I did
was for the Ramones.
909
00:45:41,583 --> 00:45:43,250
The greatest achievement
and the proudest achievement
910
00:45:43,250 --> 00:45:46,041
of my working career is actually
working with Duran Duran,
911
00:45:46,041 --> 00:45:48,458
because I find the fact
they stay relevant
912
00:45:48,458 --> 00:45:50,458
and keep ahead of the game,
913
00:45:50,458 --> 00:45:52,667
there's not many bands
that can do that anymore.
914
00:45:52,667 --> 00:45:54,792
I think Nick was really
important at that moment
915
00:45:54,792 --> 00:45:56,583
to help us realize
first the cover
916
00:45:56,583 --> 00:45:59,000
and then
the "Ordinary World" video.
917
00:46:13,458 --> 00:46:16,834
♪ Came in from
a rainy Thursday ♪
918
00:46:16,834 --> 00:46:20,542
♪ On the avenue ♪
919
00:46:20,542 --> 00:46:23,750
♪ Thought I heard you
talking softly... ♪
920
00:46:23,750 --> 00:46:25,625
"Ordinary World,"
the song itself,
921
00:46:25,625 --> 00:46:27,875
the thing that was the catapult
back into phase two,
922
00:46:27,875 --> 00:46:29,458
if you like,
when I heard it,
923
00:46:29,458 --> 00:46:31,333
I just thought,
"This is a hit record."
924
00:46:31,333 --> 00:46:34,083
And you don't often think that.
How did you guys feel as a band?
925
00:46:34,083 --> 00:46:37,542
We'd had the biggest flop
of our careers
926
00:46:37,542 --> 00:46:39,959
with the album before,
with Liberty.
927
00:46:39,959 --> 00:46:42,166
We were kind of
a bit lost, really,
928
00:46:42,166 --> 00:46:45,000
but I remember hearing
"Ordinary World" on the radio
929
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,709
and thinking,
"Thank you, God."
930
00:46:47,709 --> 00:46:49,458
You know,
that we'd just, like,
931
00:46:49,458 --> 00:46:51,709
we'd got a foot into
another decade, you know?
932
00:46:51,709 --> 00:46:53,917
'Cause we'd just had
a few years of, like,
933
00:46:53,917 --> 00:46:57,166
"'80s band, '80s band.
They're done. They're done."
934
00:46:57,166 --> 00:46:59,333
I think the success
of the single
935
00:46:59,333 --> 00:47:02,250
took an enormous amount
of pressure off us.
936
00:47:02,250 --> 00:47:05,041
So I think Simon's lyrics
were fantastic on that.
937
00:47:05,041 --> 00:47:07,375
Most of Simon's lyrics
from the early albums
938
00:47:07,375 --> 00:47:09,667
are kind of quite oblique.
939
00:47:09,667 --> 00:47:11,333
You're not quite sure
what they are.
940
00:47:11,333 --> 00:47:12,667
That's what makes them
so interesting.
941
00:47:12,667 --> 00:47:15,208
But it kind of felt
at this point like,
942
00:47:15,208 --> 00:47:18,583
maybe we just need to start
writing songs about emotions
943
00:47:18,583 --> 00:47:22,250
and-and, uh, and see
how that works out.
944
00:47:22,250 --> 00:47:26,041
♪ But I won't cry
for yesterday ♪
945
00:47:26,041 --> 00:47:29,709
♪ There's an ordinary world ♪
946
00:47:29,709 --> 00:47:33,709
♪ Somehow I have to find... ♪
947
00:47:33,709 --> 00:47:36,750
"Ordinary World" is a song
948
00:47:36,750 --> 00:47:39,834
about trying to get over
949
00:47:39,834 --> 00:47:44,083
the death of a best friend.
950
00:47:44,083 --> 00:47:47,959
And putting it in words
freed me, absolutely.
951
00:47:47,959 --> 00:47:53,083
It really worked for me
emotionally and mentally.
952
00:47:53,083 --> 00:47:54,542
Everybody who heard it
953
00:47:54,542 --> 00:47:56,709
could apply it to something
in their life,
954
00:47:56,709 --> 00:47:59,250
and it meant something to them,
955
00:47:59,250 --> 00:48:01,083
but for a totally
different reason.
956
00:48:01,083 --> 00:48:04,750
And it became such
an important song for us.
957
00:48:04,750 --> 00:48:08,417
And I think it only had
that power to touch people
958
00:48:08,417 --> 00:48:11,083
because it meant
so much to me.
959
00:48:11,083 --> 00:48:12,417
♪ In my world ♪
960
00:48:12,417 --> 00:48:16,583
♪ I will learn to survive... ♪
961
00:48:26,875 --> 00:48:30,667
♪ I put my hand ♪
962
00:48:30,667 --> 00:48:34,208
♪ Into the flame ♪
963
00:48:34,208 --> 00:48:37,834
♪ Burning but
I feel no pain... ♪
964
00:48:37,834 --> 00:48:40,291
We get Andy Taylor back
as well tonight.
965
00:48:40,291 --> 00:48:45,041
- ♪ Don't speak my name ♪
966
00:48:45,041 --> 00:48:47,041
♪ Hold onto... ♪
967
00:48:47,041 --> 00:48:48,959
I was talking to somebody
this morning,
968
00:48:48,959 --> 00:48:51,333
and they thought we got back
together to party...
969
00:48:52,458 --> 00:48:54,417
or find another wife
or whatever, but...
970
00:48:57,834 --> 00:48:59,750
Fuckin' rockin' show, dude.
971
00:48:59,750 --> 00:49:01,375
Simon, the way
you came in the crowd,
972
00:49:01,375 --> 00:49:03,500
I just wanted to
lick you all over.
973
00:49:04,792 --> 00:49:08,125
People have been asking us
for 20 years by then,
974
00:49:08,125 --> 00:49:11,458
"When are you ever gonna put the
original band back together?"
975
00:49:11,458 --> 00:49:14,500
And we didn't know
that we would,
976
00:49:14,500 --> 00:49:16,750
but nobody had ever
ruled it out.
977
00:49:26,625 --> 00:49:28,375
I just thought,
978
00:49:28,375 --> 00:49:29,959
if we ever
get a ball near a pocket,
979
00:49:29,959 --> 00:49:32,500
this massive cheer's
gonna go up.
980
00:49:34,500 --> 00:49:37,834
♪ 'Cause where I stop
that's where you begin... ♪
981
00:49:37,834 --> 00:49:40,583
Apparently,
it was 18 years
982
00:49:40,583 --> 00:49:42,709
-Wow.
-in between...
983
00:49:42,709 --> 00:49:45,375
the last show that we were all
on stage together
984
00:49:45,375 --> 00:49:49,250
and the first show
of the Astronaut project.
985
00:49:49,250 --> 00:49:50,750
It was a gamble,
986
00:49:50,750 --> 00:49:52,375
but we didn't have
a record company,
987
00:49:52,375 --> 00:49:54,166
and we didn't have
a manager.
988
00:49:54,166 --> 00:49:58,125
I think we went in pretty much
with nothing to lose.
989
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:08,375
We've got this super hooky vocal
on the chorus.
990
00:50:08,375 --> 00:50:11,208
-To D-minor.
991
00:50:13,750 --> 00:50:15,625
Down.
992
00:50:22,208 --> 00:50:24,583
-♪ Does anybody know? ♪
-I like that bit.
993
00:50:24,583 --> 00:50:25,917
What's that chord?
994
00:50:25,917 --> 00:50:27,959
It wasn't gonna be all about
995
00:50:27,959 --> 00:50:29,500
what happened in 1983.
996
00:50:29,500 --> 00:50:32,750
This was gonna be about
what we could do now.
997
00:50:34,125 --> 00:50:36,750
So, play it-- play it
from that first chord.
998
00:50:38,917 --> 00:50:42,709
But I've gotta say, getting
the different personalities
999
00:50:42,709 --> 00:50:44,417
to work again
1000
00:50:44,417 --> 00:50:47,041
was probably more challenging
than the music, I think.
1001
00:50:47,041 --> 00:50:48,875
That was the tough part.
1002
00:50:48,875 --> 00:50:52,709
Okay, clear the room, please.
Including you. Out.
1003
00:50:52,709 --> 00:50:54,875
You guys
sang it differently.
1004
00:50:54,875 --> 00:50:56,250
-No, we didn't.
-Yeah, you did.
1005
00:50:56,250 --> 00:50:58,792
Absolutely, you did.
And we all noticed it.
1006
00:50:58,792 --> 00:51:00,417
You sang it--
It was exac--
1007
00:51:00,417 --> 00:51:01,792
It was exactly
the conversation
1008
00:51:01,792 --> 00:51:03,667
that we were having
in sound check.
1009
00:51:03,667 --> 00:51:04,875
You said that before,
1010
00:51:04,875 --> 00:51:07,458
but I can't figure out
what you mean.
1011
00:51:07,458 --> 00:51:10,375
You go to the last--
1012
00:51:10,375 --> 00:51:13,125
No, no. You're wrong.
You are wrong.
1013
00:51:13,125 --> 00:51:14,750
I don't think ever
1014
00:51:14,750 --> 00:51:18,375
was there a
more important "Lights!"
1015
00:51:18,375 --> 00:51:23,083
than that first show in Osaka
on the reunion tour.
1016
00:51:23,083 --> 00:51:24,542
Because that was
the ultimate
1017
00:51:24,542 --> 00:51:27,250
"Shut the fuck up
and play your guitars."
1018
00:51:38,250 --> 00:51:41,083
And that was really what
we needed, because then,
1019
00:51:41,083 --> 00:51:43,792
all the politics just
"doof, schtum."
1020
00:51:43,792 --> 00:51:46,792
And then we go out and play,
and we remind each other,
1021
00:51:46,792 --> 00:51:50,208
"When we do this together,
this is what we get."
1022
00:51:50,208 --> 00:51:53,458
♪ Reach up for the sunrise ♪
1023
00:51:53,458 --> 00:51:58,041
♪ Put your hands
into the big sky ♪
1024
00:51:58,041 --> 00:52:01,291
♪ You can touch the sunrise ♪
1025
00:52:01,291 --> 00:52:05,875
♪ Feel the new day
enter your life ♪
1026
00:52:05,875 --> 00:52:08,625
♪ Reach up for the sunrise ♪
1027
00:52:08,625 --> 00:52:12,375
♪ Put your hands
into the big sky... ♪
1028
00:52:12,375 --> 00:52:14,208
After the Budokan shows,
1029
00:52:14,208 --> 00:52:17,709
we decided to do a tour
to support Astronaut,
1030
00:52:17,709 --> 00:52:19,792
and I think it was
planned to be
1031
00:52:19,792 --> 00:52:21,250
about three to six months,
1032
00:52:21,250 --> 00:52:24,041
but in reality ended up
being around two years.
1033
00:52:27,709 --> 00:52:29,333
Tomorrow night
we'll do like tonight.
1034
00:52:29,333 --> 00:52:30,875
Tonight we'll do
like last night.
1035
00:52:30,875 --> 00:52:33,041
And tomorrow we'll do
like the night before.
1036
00:52:33,041 --> 00:52:34,834
We've got to shorten
"The Reflex."
1037
00:52:34,834 --> 00:52:38,125
Second show,
"Tiger Tiger's" out. Right?
1038
00:52:38,125 --> 00:52:40,125
What do we play
"Bedroom Toys" instead of?
1039
00:52:40,125 --> 00:52:41,917
We want to play that next
to "Notorious," don't we?
1040
00:52:41,917 --> 00:52:44,333
We could play "Night Boat,"
then "Chauffeur."
1041
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:51,458
♪ Her name is Rio ♪
1042
00:52:51,458 --> 00:52:54,417
♪ And she dances
in the sand ♪
1043
00:52:57,750 --> 00:52:59,041
Hey, that was a great--
1044
00:52:59,041 --> 00:53:02,709
I'm feeling
job insecurity, Bill.
1045
00:53:03,875 --> 00:53:05,583
The last time
we were at the wheel,
1046
00:53:05,583 --> 00:53:06,709
we just drove it
off the cliff.
1047
00:53:06,709 --> 00:53:08,375
And this time,
you know,
1048
00:53:08,375 --> 00:53:10,083
wanting to make sure
that doesn't happen again.
1049
00:53:10,083 --> 00:53:12,291
I mean, we're all
quite driven now.
1050
00:53:12,291 --> 00:53:15,166
I think what the time did
was that it--
1051
00:53:15,166 --> 00:53:18,875
we all dug back in our
relationships with each other
1052
00:53:18,875 --> 00:53:21,125
and our feelings
for the band, you know.
1053
00:53:21,125 --> 00:53:22,959
I love you.
1054
00:53:25,417 --> 00:53:28,834
-That was worth the work.
-That was worth a year.
1055
00:53:28,834 --> 00:53:30,875
It was like,
everything was set.
1056
00:53:30,875 --> 00:53:32,166
You know what?
1057
00:53:32,166 --> 00:53:33,792
Not a moment
too fuckin' soon.
1058
00:53:33,792 --> 00:53:36,458
All the British gigs,
all the gigs we've done.
1059
00:53:36,458 --> 00:53:37,917
You know, to get it here:
1060
00:53:37,917 --> 00:53:40,667
just press the "on" button.
Boom!
1061
00:53:40,667 --> 00:53:43,667
- Aren't we smug?
-Yeah, right!
1062
00:53:44,917 --> 00:53:46,417
I hit a horrific bum note
1063
00:53:46,417 --> 00:53:48,667
on the guitar in "Astronaut."
1064
00:53:48,667 --> 00:53:51,250
Oh, someone had to
spoil it, didn't they?
1065
00:53:51,250 --> 00:53:53,333
Just when you thought
it was perfect.
1066
00:53:53,333 --> 00:53:56,250
♪ Bop, bop, bop, bop
bop, bop, bop, bop ♪
1067
00:53:56,250 --> 00:53:58,667
♪ Calling Planet Earth ♪
1068
00:53:58,667 --> 00:54:01,542
♪ Bop, bop, bop, bop
bop, bop, bop, bop... ♪
1069
00:54:01,542 --> 00:54:03,542
This is Planet--
1070
00:54:05,875 --> 00:54:08,667
And then we started
a pretty good two-year run
1071
00:54:08,667 --> 00:54:10,083
of working together.
1072
00:54:10,083 --> 00:54:11,709
It was difficult, though,
you know,
1073
00:54:11,709 --> 00:54:14,333
because everybody had
had a different experience
1074
00:54:14,333 --> 00:54:17,041
and was carrying
different stuff, baggage.
1075
00:54:17,041 --> 00:54:19,333
There was different things
in everybody's suitcases,
1076
00:54:19,333 --> 00:54:21,625
and honestly, I really
didn't want to know
1077
00:54:21,625 --> 00:54:23,041
what was going on,
1078
00:54:23,041 --> 00:54:25,000
but it would just come out.
1079
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:26,750
It's a really big one
for the fans.
1080
00:54:26,750 --> 00:54:28,458
-It's a very exciting tour.
-Yes, it is.
1081
00:54:28,458 --> 00:54:30,208
Roger and I were
just saying that we thought--
1082
00:54:30,208 --> 00:54:32,000
you watched the reaction
plummet.
1083
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:33,375
Are you joking?
1084
00:54:33,375 --> 00:54:37,375
The front three, four rows.
Watch all the way back.
1085
00:54:37,375 --> 00:54:38,917
They just went...
1086
00:54:38,917 --> 00:54:41,166
You're telling me you
can see people at the back?
1087
00:54:41,166 --> 00:54:43,542
-Of course I can.
-Bullshit.
1088
00:54:49,208 --> 00:54:52,041
This is really when
it all started going wrong
1089
00:54:52,041 --> 00:54:54,291
for Andy on that project.
1090
00:54:54,291 --> 00:54:57,750
I remember just seeing
how much he put into a show,
1091
00:54:57,750 --> 00:55:00,875
or rather, how much
it took out of him.
1092
00:55:00,875 --> 00:55:02,834
Andy was all or nothing.
1093
00:55:02,834 --> 00:55:04,250
You kind of knew
1094
00:55:04,250 --> 00:55:06,000
that he wouldn't be able
to keep it up.
1095
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:08,417
If I don't come off,
and I haven't had a good show
1096
00:55:08,417 --> 00:55:11,458
or I haven't got enough,
I'm a bit burnt,
1097
00:55:11,458 --> 00:55:13,750
I get a bit dark
after 10 weeks on tour.
1098
00:55:13,750 --> 00:55:17,250
I'm a performer,
first and foremost,
1099
00:55:17,250 --> 00:55:19,291
and anything else for me
1100
00:55:19,291 --> 00:55:21,125
is a secondary incident
in life.
1101
00:55:21,125 --> 00:55:23,208
I think he really missed
his family, as well.
1102
00:55:23,208 --> 00:55:27,500
Andy was, and still is,
a real family man.
1103
00:55:27,500 --> 00:55:30,834
When you're younger,
you don't have a home to call.
1104
00:55:30,834 --> 00:55:33,333
When you're our age,
1105
00:55:33,333 --> 00:55:36,000
home isn't just a house,
it's a--
1106
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:37,959
it's a family,
it's your children.
1107
00:55:37,959 --> 00:55:40,709
And so you can get stretched
very thinly,
1108
00:55:40,709 --> 00:55:44,333
and those stresses can
also take their toll.
1109
00:55:44,333 --> 00:55:46,667
You can get very homesick,
in a nutshell.
1110
00:55:46,667 --> 00:55:49,041
We wanted to do everything.
1111
00:55:49,041 --> 00:55:53,166
We wanted to do more work
and more shows,
1112
00:55:53,166 --> 00:55:54,875
and we were happy
1113
00:55:54,875 --> 00:55:58,000
with the way that
the management was working,
1114
00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:00,041
and Andy wasn't.
1115
00:56:00,041 --> 00:56:01,750
It's like one of those
rat wheels, isn't it?
1116
00:56:01,750 --> 00:56:04,750
And you just gotta be
King Rat sometimes
1117
00:56:04,750 --> 00:56:06,875
and say, "Bollocks.
I'm jumping off."
1118
00:56:13,041 --> 00:56:15,875
And finally, the guitarist
with the pop group Duran Duran
1119
00:56:15,875 --> 00:56:18,875
has left the band
halfway through a world tour.
1120
00:56:18,875 --> 00:56:21,208
Andy Taylor, one of
the original members,
1121
00:56:21,208 --> 00:56:22,917
rejoined the lineup
five years ago,
1122
00:56:22,917 --> 00:56:24,834
after a 15-year absence.
1123
00:56:24,834 --> 00:56:26,166
The rest of the band
1124
00:56:26,166 --> 00:56:27,875
has described
the relationship with him
1125
00:56:27,875 --> 00:56:30,792
as "unworkable" and one
which couldn't be resolved.
1126
00:56:49,291 --> 00:56:51,166
♪ Steppin' out
steppin' out ♪
1127
00:56:51,166 --> 00:56:53,458
♪ Steppin' out
and jumpin' up and ♪
1128
00:56:53,458 --> 00:56:55,417
♪ Steppin' out
steppin' out ♪
1129
00:56:55,417 --> 00:56:57,291
♪ Steppin' out
and jumpin' up and ♪
1130
00:56:57,291 --> 00:56:59,417
♪ Steppin' out
Steppin' out ♪
1131
00:56:59,417 --> 00:57:01,542
♪ Steppin' out
and jumpin' up... ♪
1132
00:57:01,542 --> 00:57:05,625
We haven't been on Radio 1
for decades,
1133
00:57:05,625 --> 00:57:07,625
and we do another album
1134
00:57:07,625 --> 00:57:10,291
with Nile Rodgers,
with Mark Ronson,
1135
00:57:10,291 --> 00:57:13,375
Ben Hudson,
and it goes top-10.
1136
00:57:13,375 --> 00:57:15,000
It's extraordinary.
1137
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:17,417
♪ Everybody everywhere ♪
1138
00:57:17,417 --> 00:57:20,166
♪ Feel it in the air
oh, yeah ♪
1139
00:57:20,166 --> 00:57:23,166
♪ It's time to take
the pressure off ♪
1140
00:57:23,166 --> 00:57:25,125
♪ Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh ♪
1141
00:57:25,125 --> 00:57:27,125
♪ Oh, oh, oh, oh,
it's up to you.... ♪
1142
00:57:27,125 --> 00:57:30,083
And it was just such
an uplifting experience.
1143
00:57:30,083 --> 00:57:33,792
When you see Nile playing his
guitar like that and grinning,
1144
00:57:33,792 --> 00:57:35,875
there's nothing quite
like it in the world.
1145
00:57:35,875 --> 00:57:39,333
♪ It's up you, girl, it's time
to take the pressure off... ♪
1146
00:57:39,333 --> 00:57:40,500
The four of us have
1147
00:57:40,500 --> 00:57:42,208
this extraordinary belief
in ourselves.
1148
00:57:42,208 --> 00:57:45,375
You know, we still believe we've
got important music to make.
1149
00:57:45,375 --> 00:57:47,834
You know, when everybody else
is going, "Pfft! They're done!"
1150
00:57:47,834 --> 00:57:50,125
You know?
And we-- we have this sense
1151
00:57:50,125 --> 00:57:52,959
that there's a--
that staying together--
1152
00:57:52,959 --> 00:57:56,667
'Cause we've all worked
apart from each other.
1153
00:57:56,667 --> 00:57:58,375
We all tried that.
1154
00:57:58,375 --> 00:58:01,000
Eh. You know.
There's something that we have
1155
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:03,792
when we're together
that's worth showing up for.
1156
00:58:03,792 --> 00:58:05,917
We accept, um,
1157
00:58:05,917 --> 00:58:09,125
who we are as people now,
who we've grown into,
1158
00:58:09,125 --> 00:58:14,792
including everybody's
faults and quirks.
1159
00:58:14,792 --> 00:58:16,458
I don't even know what's--
1160
00:58:16,458 --> 00:58:18,500
I don't know what's
in the future for us.
1161
00:58:18,500 --> 00:58:20,667
You know, I just know
it'll be interesting.
1162
00:58:20,667 --> 00:58:25,333
-♪ Oh ♪
-♪ Bow to the paper gods ♪
1163
00:58:25,333 --> 00:58:29,375
♪ In a world
that is paper thin ♪
1164
00:58:29,375 --> 00:58:31,709
♪ The fools in town... ♪
1165
00:58:31,709 --> 00:58:35,125
Getting to a 14th album is
a milestone. That's a moment.
1166
00:58:35,125 --> 00:58:37,125
It's not something
you even think about doing
1167
00:58:37,125 --> 00:58:39,041
when you start
your career.
1168
00:58:39,041 --> 00:58:42,083
Think about anyone now
who's gonna make a 14th album.
1169
00:58:42,083 --> 00:58:43,750
On one hand.
1170
00:58:43,750 --> 00:58:45,709
Maybe not. One finger.
1171
00:58:48,834 --> 00:58:52,041
I actually think we've
proved the detractors wrong
1172
00:58:52,041 --> 00:58:53,792
in the last decade.
1173
00:58:53,792 --> 00:58:56,333
The fact that
we're still here
1174
00:58:56,333 --> 00:58:58,959
40 years after we started,
1175
00:58:58,959 --> 00:59:01,750
that--
that's the real proof.
1176
00:59:02,875 --> 00:59:06,000
♪ Bow to the paper gods ♪
1177
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:09,792
♪ In a world
that is paper thin ♪
1178
00:59:09,792 --> 00:59:13,917
♪ The fools in town ♪
1179
00:59:13,917 --> 00:59:17,125
♪ Are ruling now ♪
1180
00:59:19,125 --> 00:59:23,083
♪ Bleeding from paper cuts ♪
1181
00:59:23,083 --> 00:59:26,458
♪ From money for head shots ♪
1182
00:59:26,458 --> 00:59:29,417
♪ Fools leading ♪
1183
00:59:30,750 --> 00:59:33,250
♪ Who needs it? ♪
1184
00:59:34,917 --> 00:59:37,208
-Yes!
-Yes!
1185
00:59:37,208 --> 00:59:40,250
-Charlie's first pot!
-Finally! Well done!
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