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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 3 00:00:32,490 --> 00:00:34,860 I've seen pretty unethical practices 4 00:00:34,860 --> 00:00:36,060 about mass culling of deer 5 00:00:36,060 --> 00:00:37,980 that I think would turn most people's stomachs, 6 00:00:37,980 --> 00:00:38,930 not just sportsmen. 7 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:41,640 They actually had seen 8 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:45,360 a helicopter moving deer and they kinda shoot an arena. 9 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:48,093 There would've been at least a dozen to 15 rifles. 10 00:00:49,034 --> 00:00:50,220 So if we don't manage them, 11 00:00:50,220 --> 00:00:51,450 their numbers will grow. 12 00:00:51,450 --> 00:00:52,710 They'll track the habitat, 13 00:00:52,710 --> 00:00:54,960 and then they'll die miserable deaths. 14 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:57,210 There must have been about five, 600 deer 15 00:00:57,210 --> 00:01:00,810 in the circle, and it really was cruel. 16 00:01:00,810 --> 00:01:03,240 You could see the steam coming off this deer. 17 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:06,390 They were just utterly stressed out to their mind. 18 00:01:06,390 --> 00:01:07,320 There's certainly been 19 00:01:07,320 --> 00:01:09,720 the use of helicopters to round up deer 20 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:12,880 and effectively get 'em into large segregations, 21 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:16,350 where there's been multiple shooters firing into the herds. 22 00:01:16,350 --> 00:01:18,480 The deer have been left to rot and sit 23 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:21,423 and certainly grates with the sporting ethics. 24 00:01:22,260 --> 00:01:23,610 The human effort required 25 00:01:23,610 --> 00:01:25,700 to drag or carry stags out, 26 00:01:25,700 --> 00:01:28,290 or even the practicalities of using ponies 27 00:01:28,290 --> 00:01:30,000 to take them out in these situations 28 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:33,570 is such that the carbon cost associated with economic cost 29 00:01:33,570 --> 00:01:34,403 is so high. 30 00:01:34,403 --> 00:01:35,610 And then, you have to weigh that up 31 00:01:35,610 --> 00:01:37,320 against the biodiversity benefits 32 00:01:37,320 --> 00:01:39,070 from leaving carcasses on the hill. 33 00:01:40,050 --> 00:01:42,173 And of course, there was a mass panic. 34 00:01:42,173 --> 00:01:43,980 It was a complete disgrace. 35 00:01:43,980 --> 00:01:45,450 It's just a case of killing deer. 36 00:01:45,450 --> 00:01:46,860 It's not management of deer, no. 37 00:01:46,860 --> 00:01:48,543 It's just killing deer. 38 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:52,155 The roar of the stags in the highland is now gone. 39 00:02:05,717 --> 00:02:07,680 So, this castle in Scotland is famous 40 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:10,620 for holding out against Oliver Cromwell's invasion 41 00:02:10,620 --> 00:02:13,620 after he chopped off the head of Charles I 42 00:02:13,620 --> 00:02:17,760 and we had crowned Charles II at Scone. 43 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:20,700 I'm here to explore the plight of the rural folks 44 00:02:20,700 --> 00:02:21,720 that live in the Highlands 45 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:23,580 and their relationship with wildlife. 46 00:02:23,580 --> 00:02:26,970 How does history affect today's modern land use issues? 47 00:02:26,970 --> 00:02:28,530 Scholar's relationship with the lands 48 00:02:28,530 --> 00:02:30,420 encapsulated in that story. 49 00:02:30,420 --> 00:02:31,830 You've got conflict. 50 00:02:31,830 --> 00:02:33,990 You've got the relationship between those and power 51 00:02:33,990 --> 00:02:35,610 and those in lowly position. 52 00:02:35,610 --> 00:02:38,082 You've got survival, greed, 53 00:02:38,082 --> 00:02:41,613 who owns resources and how to protect what's yours. 54 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:45,210 Picts settled along these outcrops, 55 00:02:45,210 --> 00:02:47,907 tribal peoples who lived with the land. 56 00:02:47,907 --> 00:02:50,250 The history and mythology of the stone of destiny 57 00:02:50,250 --> 00:02:52,530 are all wrapped up in the biblical struggle 58 00:02:52,530 --> 00:02:54,330 between Jacob and Esau. 59 00:02:54,330 --> 00:02:58,740 The conflict between hunter gatherers working with the land 60 00:02:58,740 --> 00:03:02,040 and farmers controlling and managing it. 61 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:04,980 And then when landless vikings came looking for land, 62 00:03:04,980 --> 00:03:07,080 the Picts and Scots came together 63 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:10,410 to forge what we call Scotland. 64 00:03:10,410 --> 00:03:11,790 Not long after that, 65 00:03:11,790 --> 00:03:13,950 Norman's crossed English channel. 66 00:03:13,950 --> 00:03:17,730 More second sons seeking estates for themselves. 67 00:03:17,730 --> 00:03:20,850 And David I of Scotland brought them 68 00:03:20,850 --> 00:03:23,580 in feudal land tenure with them. 69 00:03:23,580 --> 00:03:27,810 The king owned the land and the game that honed on it. 70 00:03:27,810 --> 00:03:30,450 A forest wasn't a place of trees. 71 00:03:30,450 --> 00:03:32,910 It was a royal hunting grounds. 72 00:03:32,910 --> 00:03:35,160 And he divided it amongst his nobility 73 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:39,720 and that division between high and low became starker still. 74 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:41,760 But in the Highland, these tribal groups 75 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:44,550 developed the clans who belonged to the land. 76 00:03:44,550 --> 00:03:46,040 To them, they were clan lands. 77 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:49,740 And so, the chief was a steward of the lands. 78 00:03:49,740 --> 00:03:53,370 And so, you had like common grazings and summer shillings 79 00:03:53,370 --> 00:03:57,090 and of course, you had cattle raids and clan feuds 80 00:03:57,090 --> 00:03:58,613 when resources were scarce, yeah. 81 00:03:58,613 --> 00:04:01,380 And the Culloden changed all that. 82 00:04:01,380 --> 00:04:05,103 Culloden was where 10 groups attached to the land ended. 83 00:04:05,940 --> 00:04:09,360 It wasn't just a battle that was lost that day, 84 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:10,920 but lifestyle. 85 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:12,690 New landowners were brought in. 86 00:04:12,690 --> 00:04:16,470 Existing chiefs changed from stewards who managed 87 00:04:16,470 --> 00:04:19,028 to landlords who rented the land. 88 00:04:19,028 --> 00:04:21,150 When this sort of sheep is more profitable, 89 00:04:21,150 --> 00:04:24,330 the human tenants were displaced, cleared, 90 00:04:24,330 --> 00:04:25,980 and shipped across the Americas. 91 00:04:25,980 --> 00:04:30,450 And the connection between people and land was broken. 92 00:04:30,450 --> 00:04:32,880 See, there's always been tension for resources 93 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:33,713 in these islands. 94 00:04:33,713 --> 00:04:36,097 Even to this day, the English are always going, 95 00:04:36,097 --> 00:04:38,010 "Yeah, we subsidize you 96 00:04:38,010 --> 00:04:40,440 and we needed that money for our own hospitals." 97 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:41,330 And of course, the Scots was going, 98 00:04:41,330 --> 00:04:43,320 "Yeah, well you took our oil 99 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:45,330 and we needed that for cooking chips." 100 00:04:45,330 --> 00:04:46,163 You know? 101 00:04:46,163 --> 00:04:46,996 It was just. 102 00:04:48,810 --> 00:04:51,540 Walter Scott popularized highland culture. 103 00:04:51,540 --> 00:04:54,120 And Queen Victoria came north, fell in love, 104 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:56,820 and bought Balmoral over the hills there. 105 00:04:56,820 --> 00:04:58,860 The Victorian era brought trains 106 00:04:58,860 --> 00:05:01,230 and estates became a playground for toffs 107 00:05:01,230 --> 00:05:03,660 to come hunting, shooting, and fishing, 108 00:05:03,660 --> 00:05:05,760 reinforcing that separation 109 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:07,470 between the people who owned the land 110 00:05:07,470 --> 00:05:10,950 and those who had belonged to. 111 00:05:10,950 --> 00:05:12,570 Much of our coastal and lowland areas 112 00:05:12,570 --> 00:05:15,030 were stripped to trees by humans. 113 00:05:15,030 --> 00:05:18,330 Based in secondhand Roman chroniclers, popular history 114 00:05:18,330 --> 00:05:21,810 established a narrative of the great forest of Culloden 115 00:05:21,810 --> 00:05:23,400 spanning the land. 116 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:25,500 There's been a movement to rewild the land 117 00:05:25,500 --> 00:05:28,830 with age old trees, plants, and animals. 118 00:05:28,830 --> 00:05:31,706 While Scots now have the right to roam the land, 119 00:05:31,706 --> 00:05:33,870 there is a group who feel targeted. 120 00:05:33,870 --> 00:05:36,420 The keepers, stalkers, and gillies, 121 00:05:36,420 --> 00:05:38,400 working for the landed gentry, 122 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:42,480 whose relationship with the land spans almost two centuries. 123 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:45,812 They feel like they're in the government's crosshairs. 124 00:05:45,812 --> 00:05:48,241 It's a way of life that may disappear. 125 00:05:50,130 --> 00:05:52,800 Scotland, known for its rolling hills. 126 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:54,840 It's glens. It's heather. 127 00:05:54,840 --> 00:05:57,720 But for many, the reality is very different. 128 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:01,005 Greenock on the river Clyde was once a bustling port, 129 00:06:01,005 --> 00:06:06,005 handling tobacco, sugar, rum from a global empire. 130 00:06:06,060 --> 00:06:08,670 In the Industrial Revolution, this town rattled 131 00:06:08,670 --> 00:06:11,640 with the sound of some of the world's first steam engines 132 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:13,560 driving factories and mills. 133 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:15,210 And back then, Clyde built 134 00:06:15,210 --> 00:06:17,670 was a mark of shipbuilding excellence. 135 00:06:17,670 --> 00:06:19,710 The highlands were being depopulated 136 00:06:19,710 --> 00:06:22,710 as the Scottish central belt, factories, and mills 137 00:06:22,710 --> 00:06:25,620 soaked up the displaced, often in poor housing 138 00:06:25,620 --> 00:06:27,300 and cramped conditions. 139 00:06:27,300 --> 00:06:29,640 And to this day, 70% of Scots 140 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:32,910 live in this narrow and industrialized central ban 141 00:06:32,910 --> 00:06:36,510 long after the shipyards and mills fell silent. 142 00:06:36,510 --> 00:06:39,000 And this Central Belt dominates politics 143 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,700 with Scotland's parliament and affluent Edinburgh 144 00:06:41,700 --> 00:06:44,940 having autonomous control of domestic law. 145 00:06:44,940 --> 00:06:46,800 From highland life, these people 146 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:49,920 are generations removed, a world away. 147 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:51,660 But in Scotland, the difference 148 00:06:51,660 --> 00:06:53,763 is often just a matter of perception. 149 00:06:54,900 --> 00:06:58,920 Scotland today is in the midst of a battle over land use. 150 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:02,370 On one side are the so-called conservation groups, 151 00:07:02,370 --> 00:07:05,130 politicians, and climate activists. 152 00:07:05,130 --> 00:07:08,490 On the other are landowners and the rural communities 153 00:07:08,490 --> 00:07:10,830 impacted by the policy decisions. 154 00:07:10,830 --> 00:07:14,220 At the crux of the conflict are sporting estates, 155 00:07:14,220 --> 00:07:17,490 which generate income that fuels the rural economy 156 00:07:17,490 --> 00:07:19,440 through the recreational hunting of deer, 157 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:20,703 grouse, and pheasants. 158 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:24,300 So we have a government now, a Scottish government, 159 00:07:24,300 --> 00:07:27,690 that two ambitions. 160 00:07:27,690 --> 00:07:29,490 One is a breakup the union. 161 00:07:29,490 --> 00:07:32,030 The other is a breakup of a sport in states. 162 00:07:32,030 --> 00:07:36,510 And they're making life so unbearable and unmanageable, 163 00:07:36,510 --> 00:07:40,200 unworkable, that it's very difficult to do our job 164 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:41,670 the way it should be done. 165 00:07:41,670 --> 00:07:44,790 We are managing these areas of habitat 166 00:07:44,790 --> 00:07:47,400 for the benefit of very, very few people. 167 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:48,660 They'll conveniently overlook 168 00:07:48,660 --> 00:07:49,740 the very large amounts of money 169 00:07:49,740 --> 00:07:51,960 that those very, very few people will pay to do 170 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:53,760 what they wanna do, what they hope to do, 171 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:56,010 and aspire to do on those bits of ground, which in turn, 172 00:07:56,010 --> 00:08:00,570 generates all sorts of socio and economic factors. 173 00:08:00,570 --> 00:08:01,770 They just look at the downside, 174 00:08:01,770 --> 00:08:04,750 which is we're smashing things up, we're suppressing it, 175 00:08:04,750 --> 00:08:07,350 we're doing bad stuff, and we should be stopped. 176 00:08:07,350 --> 00:08:11,460 We are in the midst of a bit of a biodiversity crisis, 177 00:08:11,460 --> 00:08:12,360 a nature crisis. 178 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:14,580 We are a country that is traditionally thought 179 00:08:14,580 --> 00:08:15,870 to be rich in nature, 180 00:08:15,870 --> 00:08:17,880 but actually many of our wildlife populations 181 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:19,620 are suffering. 182 00:08:19,620 --> 00:08:21,420 We're also a very deforested country, 183 00:08:21,420 --> 00:08:24,150 quite a degraded country, industrial agriculture, 184 00:08:24,150 --> 00:08:25,980 industrial forestry. 185 00:08:25,980 --> 00:08:28,470 The habitat that you see around here, the landscape, 186 00:08:28,470 --> 00:08:31,040 the animals that inhabit it, and the way it's laid out 187 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:33,510 is all the consequences of human choices. 188 00:08:33,510 --> 00:08:35,700 All the shepherds that came to live in the Highlands 189 00:08:35,700 --> 00:08:37,680 came because the sheep were here. 190 00:08:37,680 --> 00:08:39,780 All the gamekeepers, and gillies, and stalkers 191 00:08:39,780 --> 00:08:42,510 that were here to show benefit to sportsmen 192 00:08:42,510 --> 00:08:44,644 from grouse, and salmon, and deer came here 193 00:08:44,644 --> 00:08:47,010 and lived in the houses that were built for them 194 00:08:47,010 --> 00:08:49,290 to support that activity and that habitat. 195 00:08:49,290 --> 00:08:50,550 The big challenge really 196 00:08:50,550 --> 00:08:54,600 is to manage our wildlife resources, 197 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:59,100 our wider habitat resource in a sustainable way 198 00:08:59,100 --> 00:09:02,670 and resolve many of the big conflicts there are 199 00:09:02,670 --> 00:09:04,770 over how that management takes place 200 00:09:04,770 --> 00:09:06,450 and who makes the decisions. 201 00:09:06,450 --> 00:09:09,450 Trying to find middle ground in there 202 00:09:09,450 --> 00:09:10,810 and a workable solution 203 00:09:11,910 --> 00:09:15,930 is definitely problematic at times. 204 00:09:15,930 --> 00:09:17,970 The wildlife side of things, 205 00:09:17,970 --> 00:09:20,190 the actual sort of wildlife conservation then 206 00:09:20,190 --> 00:09:22,976 can get completely lost in the people politics. 207 00:09:30,810 --> 00:09:32,550 One keeper is Alex Jenkins, 208 00:09:32,550 --> 00:09:35,310 who at age 38 is working his dream job 209 00:09:35,310 --> 00:09:38,010 at Edinglassie estate in Straton. 210 00:09:38,010 --> 00:09:40,740 My job is to look after the running estate. 211 00:09:40,740 --> 00:09:44,310 We're primarily a sporting estate, a driven grouse moor. 212 00:09:44,310 --> 00:09:45,840 I manage the deer as well. 213 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:49,440 I oversee a lot of the grazing aspect to the estate, 214 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:50,883 conduct all the muirburn, 215 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:54,180 look after the roads, infrastructure, 216 00:09:54,180 --> 00:09:55,912 property side of things, 217 00:09:55,912 --> 00:09:58,590 and a bit forestry work as well. 218 00:09:58,590 --> 00:10:00,210 We also do a lot of conservation work 219 00:10:00,210 --> 00:10:02,610 on the in by ground for waders. 220 00:10:02,610 --> 00:10:04,980 We plant species rich grassland. 221 00:10:04,980 --> 00:10:07,710 Red grouse is one of our indigenous grouse species. 222 00:10:07,710 --> 00:10:09,210 My whole year revolves 223 00:10:09,210 --> 00:10:12,660 around trying to hopefully produce a surplus stock 224 00:10:12,660 --> 00:10:13,500 that we can take. 225 00:10:13,500 --> 00:10:15,930 When numbers are very low, we don't shoot. 226 00:10:15,930 --> 00:10:17,280 It's not in our interest to shoot. 227 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:20,010 We count our grouse twice a year every year 228 00:10:20,010 --> 00:10:22,710 and have done decades now, if not a hundred years. 229 00:10:22,710 --> 00:10:24,320 Generally sitting over a hundred grouse 230 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:25,920 to the kilometer square. 231 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:27,090 And that's gonna allow me 232 00:10:27,090 --> 00:10:29,790 for a very moderate shooting program this year. 233 00:10:29,790 --> 00:10:33,210 But we know from generations of experience 234 00:10:33,210 --> 00:10:35,707 when we can afford to shoot and when we can't. 235 00:10:35,707 --> 00:10:39,330 It can be a hugely rewarding way of life being a keeper. 236 00:10:39,330 --> 00:10:40,170 We're very fortunate 237 00:10:40,170 --> 00:10:42,510 that we get to work up in these environments. 238 00:10:42,510 --> 00:10:44,400 The majority of the people that live here 239 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:46,680 and their families have been here for generations, 240 00:10:46,680 --> 00:10:49,170 very supportive and understanding. 241 00:10:49,170 --> 00:10:50,880 You feel like you belong. 242 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:52,771 You don't feel like an outsider. 243 00:11:00,570 --> 00:11:04,080 I'm the last traditional employed gamekeeper 244 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:07,110 on an estate left on the Isle of Skye now. 245 00:11:07,110 --> 00:11:09,090 Skye used to have a rich sporting tradition, 246 00:11:09,090 --> 00:11:11,700 with private estates employing gatekeepers. 247 00:11:11,700 --> 00:11:13,660 Having gamekeepers on this estate 248 00:11:14,790 --> 00:11:17,910 means that not only is it employment for local people, 249 00:11:17,910 --> 00:11:22,260 but the added a benefit to the environment, to crafting, 250 00:11:22,260 --> 00:11:24,900 to farming communities is massive. 251 00:11:24,900 --> 00:11:27,690 I was born and raised and brought up on a housing estate 252 00:11:27,690 --> 00:11:29,490 in the middle of a town city. 253 00:11:29,490 --> 00:11:30,323 So, I haven't got 254 00:11:30,323 --> 00:11:32,370 that kind of background with gamekeepers in the family, 255 00:11:32,370 --> 00:11:34,290 but it's something that I've wanted to do. 256 00:11:34,290 --> 00:11:35,820 I always wanted to have that feeling. 257 00:11:35,820 --> 00:11:38,401 I needed to be out out on the hill. 258 00:11:38,401 --> 00:11:40,110 And I've been doing it now 259 00:11:40,110 --> 00:11:44,700 for just over 30 years in a gamekeeper role. 260 00:11:44,700 --> 00:11:46,470 I think the most difficult part 261 00:11:46,470 --> 00:11:48,420 about being a wife to a gamekeeper 262 00:11:48,420 --> 00:11:51,390 is understanding what they're going through I think 263 00:11:51,390 --> 00:11:53,460 because there's a lot of pressure. 264 00:11:53,460 --> 00:11:55,650 Not just Scott, but other gamekeepers 265 00:11:55,650 --> 00:11:57,600 may not want to tell their partners 266 00:11:57,600 --> 00:11:58,680 because of worrying them. 267 00:11:58,680 --> 00:11:59,513 So, there's always 268 00:11:59,513 --> 00:12:00,660 - that. - Bobbie. 269 00:12:00,660 --> 00:12:01,969 There's always that sort of thought, 270 00:12:01,969 --> 00:12:03,560 you know, "Is he all right?" 271 00:12:03,560 --> 00:12:05,300 'Cause he spends a lot of time on his own, you know? 272 00:12:05,300 --> 00:12:07,980 He is out on the hill on his own, doing the deer count, 273 00:12:07,980 --> 00:12:10,800 doing the deer call, and it must get quite lonely. 274 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:14,310 So, I do worry about that side of things. 275 00:12:14,310 --> 00:12:18,450 It is really hard to live as a gamekeeper's wife. 276 00:12:18,450 --> 00:12:19,680 I'm warm. 277 00:12:19,680 --> 00:12:20,820 I know. 278 00:12:20,820 --> 00:12:24,240 I know that there are nights when they don't come home 279 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:26,760 for long time. 280 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:31,410 I know that I'm bringing up a family without them. 281 00:12:31,410 --> 00:12:33,210 They don't go to the schools. 282 00:12:33,210 --> 00:12:36,570 They don't get chance to go to the events 283 00:12:36,570 --> 00:12:39,180 that as the children are growing up. 284 00:12:39,180 --> 00:12:40,939 And so it is really, really hard. 285 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:48,060 At its core, this controversy 286 00:12:48,060 --> 00:12:49,890 is a clash of ideologies. 287 00:12:49,890 --> 00:12:53,580 A class warfare centered on how we should manage the land. 288 00:12:53,580 --> 00:12:56,730 On one side, there's a commitment to wildlife conservation 289 00:12:56,730 --> 00:12:59,880 for both financial gain and cultural preservation. 290 00:12:59,880 --> 00:13:02,070 On the other, the rewilding movement 291 00:13:02,070 --> 00:13:04,860 advocates for letting nature be truly wild, 292 00:13:04,860 --> 00:13:06,750 free from human management. 293 00:13:06,750 --> 00:13:10,470 The epicenter of this clash, grouse moors and red deer. 294 00:13:10,470 --> 00:13:12,660 Grouse moors often are misunderstood, 295 00:13:12,660 --> 00:13:16,020 but they're a vital ecosystem supporting endangered species. 296 00:13:16,020 --> 00:13:19,260 Although historical evidence challenges this claim, 297 00:13:19,260 --> 00:13:22,110 red deer accused of causing deforestation, 298 00:13:22,110 --> 00:13:23,820 has become a focal point. 299 00:13:23,820 --> 00:13:26,640 It's a battle between carefully woven tapestries 300 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:29,460 and the allure of leaving nature's canvas untouched 301 00:13:29,460 --> 00:13:31,200 by human hands. 302 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:33,120 For me, rewilding is anything 303 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:35,340 that counteracts more dewilding. 304 00:13:35,340 --> 00:13:38,250 Anything that joins up and enriches habitats 305 00:13:38,250 --> 00:13:40,890 rather than further fragment and degrade them. 306 00:13:40,890 --> 00:13:42,510 Anything that results in more nature 307 00:13:42,510 --> 00:13:44,400 and not less nature. 308 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:46,740 It is a fact that we have lost certain species 309 00:13:46,740 --> 00:13:49,920 from our country over decades, centuries. 310 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:51,900 It's also a fact that everything existed 311 00:13:51,900 --> 00:13:52,980 before we were around 312 00:13:52,980 --> 00:13:55,632 in a rather better way than it does now. 313 00:13:55,632 --> 00:13:57,660 It's not our prerogative to say 314 00:13:57,660 --> 00:13:59,460 whether trees will grow there or not. 315 00:13:59,460 --> 00:14:01,320 We just want to create the right environment 316 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:03,180 if the trees want to grow. 317 00:14:03,180 --> 00:14:04,980 But when things start getting gritty, 318 00:14:04,980 --> 00:14:06,780 and granular, and confused, 319 00:14:06,780 --> 00:14:08,580 and we don't have a lot of the data we need, 320 00:14:08,580 --> 00:14:11,700 it's very easy just to be overruled by the tree. 321 00:14:11,700 --> 00:14:13,080 I mean, the trees look great. 322 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:15,150 We kind of have this sort of innate association 323 00:14:15,150 --> 00:14:17,520 that there should be trees because we love trees, 324 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:20,550 because they're sort of built into our understanding 325 00:14:20,550 --> 00:14:22,590 of what nature and wildlife should be. 326 00:14:22,590 --> 00:14:24,960 It's not as simple as just the more trees we have, 327 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:25,800 the better we're gonna do, 328 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:27,600 the better things are gonna be for us. 329 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:29,790 People blame the introduction of sheep 330 00:14:29,790 --> 00:14:31,380 for getting rid of the trees. 331 00:14:31,380 --> 00:14:32,700 But the sheep weren't introduced 332 00:14:32,700 --> 00:14:35,760 till during the Highland Clearances after 1750. 333 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:38,610 And woodland was only about 45% of the landscape 334 00:14:38,610 --> 00:14:39,443 before sheep came along there. 335 00:14:39,443 --> 00:14:44,443 There's a famous Scottish geologist way back in 1866, 336 00:14:44,490 --> 00:14:45,840 James Geikie. 337 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:47,430 And he concluded then that the woodlands 338 00:14:47,430 --> 00:14:48,802 had died out naturally. 339 00:14:48,802 --> 00:14:51,630 And all the evidence looking at tree remains in peat. 340 00:14:51,630 --> 00:14:54,690 And the evidence shows that woodland 341 00:14:54,690 --> 00:14:58,380 has been declining for the last four to 5,000 years 342 00:14:58,380 --> 00:15:00,630 or 7,000 years in some places. 343 00:15:00,630 --> 00:15:03,870 The rewilding word is incredibly loaded 344 00:15:03,870 --> 00:15:08,304 with lots of connotations, whether justified or not. 345 00:15:08,304 --> 00:15:11,910 But one of the connotations might be that in some way 346 00:15:11,910 --> 00:15:13,740 the rewilding word is anti-people, 347 00:15:13,740 --> 00:15:16,200 anti-community, anti something. 348 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:19,838 We are more than capable of looking after our natural assets 349 00:15:19,838 --> 00:15:21,990 and having vibrant communities 350 00:15:21,990 --> 00:15:24,060 living in amongst those areas. 351 00:15:24,060 --> 00:15:26,520 Without this I idea that it's one or other. 352 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:28,440 At the moment, it's one that, 353 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:31,230 it's a word that I find unhelpful in terms of the debate 354 00:15:31,230 --> 00:15:32,700 because it's polarized. 355 00:15:32,700 --> 00:15:35,910 I would prefer we talk about ecological restoration, 356 00:15:35,910 --> 00:15:39,660 or nature restoration, or even peatland recovery. 357 00:15:39,660 --> 00:15:40,500 That's what I want to see. 358 00:15:40,500 --> 00:15:43,200 I want to see our wetlands, our peatlands, 359 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:46,230 our forests, our rivers restore to ecological health. 360 00:15:46,230 --> 00:15:49,950 But if you choose to label it rewilding, okay, 361 00:15:49,950 --> 00:15:53,490 you immediately enter a whole series of debates, 362 00:15:53,490 --> 00:15:56,670 like was this wild at land wild in the first place, 363 00:15:56,670 --> 00:15:59,160 'cause you're implying it was, right? 364 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:01,710 And excuse me, my ancestors lived here. 365 00:16:01,710 --> 00:16:05,670 You know, this is a degraded environmentally habitat, 366 00:16:05,670 --> 00:16:07,740 but it's also a depopulated environment. 367 00:16:07,740 --> 00:16:08,573 Are you actually saying 368 00:16:08,573 --> 00:16:10,590 we should all live in a nature reserve? 369 00:16:10,590 --> 00:16:12,807 So, those were the kind of responses to that. 370 00:16:12,807 --> 00:16:16,260 And in my view, it's set up a fairly unhelpful 371 00:16:16,260 --> 00:16:19,473 and unproductive debate, which needn't have been. 372 00:16:20,340 --> 00:16:22,227 There's a big difference between trees 373 00:16:22,227 --> 00:16:24,210 and a woodland ecosystem. 374 00:16:24,210 --> 00:16:26,460 Our tree cover is something like 18%. 375 00:16:26,460 --> 00:16:28,890 The average across Europe is about 37%. 376 00:16:28,890 --> 00:16:30,390 So, trees plays a part in it, 377 00:16:30,390 --> 00:16:33,900 but as does heather, blaeberry, wood ants, 378 00:16:33,900 --> 00:16:36,570 badgers, otters, all of these species 379 00:16:36,570 --> 00:16:38,820 are components in a system. 380 00:16:38,820 --> 00:16:42,120 And it's the system, it's the functionality of the system 381 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:45,120 that we as rewilders want to improve. 382 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:48,358 It's been known for a long time that you get an ice age, 383 00:16:48,358 --> 00:16:51,150 then you get the climate changes warms up after an ice age, 384 00:16:51,150 --> 00:16:53,850 and then plants colonize. 385 00:16:53,850 --> 00:16:55,050 The soils are quite rich 386 00:16:55,050 --> 00:16:58,380 from more than glacial mixing of the soil. 387 00:16:58,380 --> 00:17:01,530 And woodland expands 388 00:17:01,530 --> 00:17:04,470 and that's what's called the mesocratic phase. 389 00:17:04,470 --> 00:17:06,000 But in this part of all, it rains, 390 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:07,860 and it rains, and it rains. 391 00:17:07,860 --> 00:17:09,900 And after 10,000 years of rain, 392 00:17:09,900 --> 00:17:12,840 the nutrients get leached out of the soil. 393 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:17,160 It becomes too acidic for earthworms, so you get podzols. 394 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:18,630 You often get an iron pan, 395 00:17:18,630 --> 00:17:20,880 a solid layer of iron precipitating out in the soil, 396 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:22,650 which is impenetrable. 397 00:17:22,650 --> 00:17:25,380 So in fact, the soil deteriorates 398 00:17:25,380 --> 00:17:26,860 and the climate may deteriorate 399 00:17:26,860 --> 00:17:29,400 after the middle phase of an interglacial, 400 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:32,610 you get the mesocratic phase, then the oligocratic phase. 401 00:17:32,610 --> 00:17:35,639 And that means that the woodland declines naturally 402 00:17:35,639 --> 00:17:39,330 and you get more acid moorland and heathland and peat bog. 403 00:17:39,330 --> 00:17:43,530 So at this stage, we about 10,000 years after interglacial, 404 00:17:43,530 --> 00:17:45,030 you expect woodland have declined 405 00:17:45,030 --> 00:17:46,860 and moorland to become dominant. 406 00:17:46,860 --> 00:17:49,760 And that for an open landscape with woodland 407 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:52,470 is a natural feature you'd expect. 408 00:17:52,470 --> 00:17:54,960 But every time you plant trees 409 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:57,060 on Scottish upland vegetation, 410 00:17:57,060 --> 00:17:58,740 you're resulting a loss of biodiversity 411 00:17:58,740 --> 00:18:00,960 'cause you're reducing the area 412 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:03,600 of natural habitat in Scotland. 413 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:05,460 So, you can't plant trees really, 414 00:18:05,460 --> 00:18:09,210 or certain commercial trees without losing biodiversity. 415 00:18:09,210 --> 00:18:10,830 So, and also the landscape. 416 00:18:10,830 --> 00:18:14,700 So not only damage in the soils, dubious climate impact, 417 00:18:14,700 --> 00:18:17,340 you also change a natural landscape 418 00:18:17,340 --> 00:18:19,152 into an artificial landscape. 419 00:18:19,152 --> 00:18:21,690 And windthrow is a huge problem. 420 00:18:21,690 --> 00:18:24,090 A lot of the new native wooden plantations been put up. 421 00:18:24,090 --> 00:18:24,923 will just blow over. 422 00:18:24,923 --> 00:18:27,090 A lot fo economic use for the trees. 423 00:18:27,090 --> 00:18:28,410 And in 50 or 60 years time, 424 00:18:28,410 --> 00:18:31,830 you end up with a huge lot of wind blown plantations 425 00:18:31,830 --> 00:18:33,480 and no use to anybody, 426 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:35,640 having destroyed a natural open landscape 427 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:37,380 in the process of creating them. 428 00:18:37,380 --> 00:18:39,120 The trees are there just now. 429 00:18:39,120 --> 00:18:41,700 All we're saying is just like the trees grow. 430 00:18:41,700 --> 00:18:43,380 So if you reduce the grazing pressure, 431 00:18:43,380 --> 00:18:45,030 we don't need to plant trees. 432 00:18:45,030 --> 00:18:47,100 This notion that the climate 433 00:18:47,100 --> 00:18:49,413 is such that trees don't want to grow in Scotland, 434 00:18:49,413 --> 00:18:51,510 it's a construct that people 435 00:18:51,510 --> 00:18:53,397 are working quite hard to create. 436 00:18:53,397 --> 00:18:55,380 But the problem with the argument 437 00:18:55,380 --> 00:18:58,020 is that, well, what happens if the trees are there 438 00:18:58,020 --> 00:18:58,860 and they just want to grow? 439 00:18:58,860 --> 00:18:59,820 Nobody's planting them. 440 00:18:59,820 --> 00:19:01,740 You're just reducing the deer grazing pressure 441 00:19:01,740 --> 00:19:03,390 and the trees are starting to grow. 442 00:19:03,390 --> 00:19:04,350 What then? 443 00:19:04,350 --> 00:19:05,670 And is it not slightly unusual 444 00:19:05,670 --> 00:19:07,800 that Scotland is almost unique across Europe 445 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:09,810 and it doesn't have a natural tree life? 446 00:19:09,810 --> 00:19:11,490 That's not to do with our climate or anything. 447 00:19:11,490 --> 00:19:13,823 That's just to do the fact it's been overgrazed. 448 00:19:17,610 --> 00:19:20,820 Land reform is being debated by the Scottish government. 449 00:19:20,820 --> 00:19:23,940 The arguments come down to who owns the land 450 00:19:23,940 --> 00:19:27,840 and who has the right to determine its best use. 451 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:30,180 We had hardly heard of land reform. 452 00:19:30,180 --> 00:19:33,660 We had, but it seemed to be something very, very distant, 453 00:19:33,660 --> 00:19:36,450 promoted by a very, very small minority. 454 00:19:36,450 --> 00:19:40,020 I would say their motivation is neo-Marxist. 455 00:19:40,020 --> 00:19:42,450 I mean, they want to see the breaking up 456 00:19:42,450 --> 00:19:43,920 of large land holdings. 457 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:46,350 Scotland is a wild country, a lot of mountain, 458 00:19:46,350 --> 00:19:49,890 a lot of moorland, and you need large areas 459 00:19:49,890 --> 00:19:52,980 in order to be able to manage them viably and efficiently. 460 00:19:52,980 --> 00:19:56,670 Who pays to stop, or prevent, or disincentivize 461 00:19:56,670 --> 00:19:58,800 the farmer from ripping up a forest 462 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:02,790 or, you know, filling in an a peat bog or whatever? 463 00:20:02,790 --> 00:20:06,900 Those systems are benefiting the whole of society 464 00:20:06,900 --> 00:20:09,600 and therefore, the whole of society has to contribute 465 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:10,980 to the maintenance of those systems 466 00:20:10,980 --> 00:20:12,450 or the preservation of those systems. 467 00:20:12,450 --> 00:20:14,730 And that includes the business sector. 468 00:20:14,730 --> 00:20:17,040 And if we can get to a situation 469 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:21,390 where we have the private sector fueling nature recovery, 470 00:20:21,390 --> 00:20:24,000 but what gets spat out at the other end 471 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:25,440 is community benefit. 472 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:26,520 And that might be money. 473 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:27,390 It might be jobs. 474 00:20:27,390 --> 00:20:28,800 It might be recreational opportunities. 475 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:30,690 It might be ecosystem services. 476 00:20:30,690 --> 00:20:34,170 If we can get that conveyor belt flowing more freely, 477 00:20:34,170 --> 00:20:36,900 then I think we've gotta, maybe not a perfect situation, 478 00:20:36,900 --> 00:20:40,170 but a situation that's moving towards rewilding 479 00:20:40,170 --> 00:20:43,200 a nature recovery becoming an economically viable land use. 480 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:46,320 We're not there yet, but that is the direction of travel. 481 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:47,970 So, I think the problem with rewilding 482 00:20:47,970 --> 00:20:49,590 is to put it in a nutshell, 483 00:20:49,590 --> 00:20:52,770 it embraces a lot of concepts 484 00:20:52,770 --> 00:20:56,010 which are problematic 485 00:20:56,010 --> 00:20:58,350 and come into conflict with each other. 486 00:20:58,350 --> 00:21:01,080 And some of the more modern advocates of it 487 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:02,100 are people who are coming in, 488 00:21:02,100 --> 00:21:05,550 buying a lot of land and restoring forests. 489 00:21:05,550 --> 00:21:08,879 But these people often tend to be very wealthy 490 00:21:08,879 --> 00:21:11,610 and they immediately bring with them the baggage 491 00:21:11,610 --> 00:21:13,950 associated with the whole debate around land ownership, 492 00:21:13,950 --> 00:21:17,670 because they're buying large areas of land to rewild. 493 00:21:17,670 --> 00:21:20,598 So again, that makes this debate complicated 494 00:21:20,598 --> 00:21:25,470 because people who don't want foreigners, or wealthy people, 495 00:21:25,470 --> 00:21:27,720 or people buying large areas of land, 496 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:30,510 find themselves critical of an endeavor, 497 00:21:30,510 --> 00:21:32,370 which in other terms 498 00:21:32,370 --> 00:21:34,410 were it to be done by other people maybe 499 00:21:34,410 --> 00:21:36,330 if it were to be done by themselves maybe 500 00:21:36,330 --> 00:21:38,898 would be regarded as quite positive. 501 00:21:42,510 --> 00:21:43,800 Across the millennia, 502 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:45,510 the patterns of land use in Scotland 503 00:21:45,510 --> 00:21:48,150 have sculpted the tapestry of the rural highlands. 504 00:21:48,150 --> 00:21:50,250 Today, a collective yearning exists 505 00:21:50,250 --> 00:21:52,830 to enhance Scotland's biodiversity, 506 00:21:52,830 --> 00:21:55,920 yet finding consensus on the precise goals 507 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:58,200 remains a formidable challenge. 508 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:01,920 It's a delicate dance between preserving tradition 509 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,920 and forging a sustainable future. 510 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,500 You see an effort to target heather moorland 511 00:22:07,500 --> 00:22:09,360 and plant trees on it. 512 00:22:09,360 --> 00:22:10,193 And then, we look 513 00:22:10,193 --> 00:22:13,560 at marginal agricultural lands at lower elevations, 514 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:16,590 where there's actual biodiversity loss. 515 00:22:16,590 --> 00:22:19,833 Why doesn't the rewilding movement target these lands? 516 00:22:21,970 --> 00:22:26,070 Again, I don't think rewilding is targeting, 517 00:22:26,070 --> 00:22:29,370 as you put it, a given habitat or a given land use. 518 00:22:29,370 --> 00:22:31,470 I think there are some extremes. 519 00:22:31,470 --> 00:22:33,447 You might argue that driven grouse moors 520 00:22:33,447 --> 00:22:38,250 are one such extreme, where the intensity of the management 521 00:22:38,250 --> 00:22:41,310 in some cases is undoubtedly detrimental. 522 00:22:41,310 --> 00:22:42,600 Maybe not to red grouse, 523 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:44,130 but to a whole range of other species. 524 00:22:44,130 --> 00:22:47,790 And there's, you know, routine calling of stokes, weasels, 525 00:22:47,790 --> 00:22:50,280 foxes, corvids on those estates. 526 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:52,590 One of the challenges in Scotland 527 00:22:52,590 --> 00:22:56,580 or in rural places really across Europe is depopulation, 528 00:22:56,580 --> 00:22:59,550 especially young people leaving rural areas 529 00:22:59,550 --> 00:23:00,930 to go and work in the city. 530 00:23:00,930 --> 00:23:02,550 It's completely understandable. 531 00:23:02,550 --> 00:23:05,130 We believe that rewilding is not a silver bullet, 532 00:23:05,130 --> 00:23:07,890 but if we get it right, it brings benefits for nature, 533 00:23:07,890 --> 00:23:09,600 it brings benefits for climate, 534 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:11,960 but crucially, it also brings benefits for people. 535 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,970 If you have a look at the biodiversity within these areas, 536 00:23:17,970 --> 00:23:20,130 they're often far greater than anywhere else. 537 00:23:20,130 --> 00:23:23,520 And I dunno why people 538 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:26,520 don't seem to understand why that is. 539 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,220 And unfortunately, I think it comes all the way down 540 00:23:29,220 --> 00:23:32,940 to this emotional aspect that people just want to believe 541 00:23:32,940 --> 00:23:34,830 that yes, nature will just prevail. 542 00:23:34,830 --> 00:23:37,482 We don't need to do anything. That's not the case 543 00:23:42,540 --> 00:23:45,420 On sporting estates specializing in grouse shooting, 544 00:23:45,420 --> 00:23:47,700 one of the critical roles of the gamekeepers 545 00:23:47,700 --> 00:23:50,670 to manage the land in a way that maximizes 546 00:23:50,670 --> 00:23:54,750 the number of grouse available each year for the hunt. 547 00:23:54,750 --> 00:23:57,843 The Glorious Twelfth is the first day of grouse season. 548 00:23:58,860 --> 00:24:01,560 The sporting estates support various rural businesses, 549 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,860 including Pam Blackhall, who has run Wm Blackhall, 550 00:24:04,860 --> 00:24:08,850 makers of fine kilts and tailoring for three generations. 551 00:24:08,850 --> 00:24:10,878 You are wanting a new suit 552 00:24:10,878 --> 00:24:12,284 - or is it- - Yes, please. 553 00:24:12,284 --> 00:24:13,617 I just... 554 00:24:13,617 --> 00:24:14,584 Just a pair of breaks. 555 00:24:14,584 --> 00:24:16,670 A pair of breaks this year, please, Pam. 556 00:24:16,670 --> 00:24:18,114 And I'm needing a new hat and I- 557 00:24:18,114 --> 00:24:18,947 Would you like a cap, 558 00:24:18,947 --> 00:24:19,780 - right? - Yes, please. 559 00:24:19,780 --> 00:24:20,760 Let just take a note to that. 560 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:24,720 A lot of the tweets are designed for camouflage. 561 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,450 So, there's historically they were supposed to blend in 562 00:24:27,450 --> 00:24:30,420 with the, you know, the heather, the rocks. 563 00:24:30,420 --> 00:24:34,260 The business has been going for 101 years now, 564 00:24:34,260 --> 00:24:39,260 and I've been doing it myself since 1992. 565 00:24:39,420 --> 00:24:44,420 My father took over from his father in 1966. 566 00:24:44,463 --> 00:24:49,380 And my grandfather started the business in 1921. 567 00:24:49,380 --> 00:24:51,033 I probably have a pool 568 00:24:51,033 --> 00:24:55,680 of about 35 to 40 different estates 569 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:56,513 that I work for. 570 00:24:57,900 --> 00:25:00,420 And normally in a year, 571 00:25:00,420 --> 00:25:04,020 I will do possibly up to about 28 states 572 00:25:04,020 --> 00:25:06,900 outta that 35. 573 00:25:06,900 --> 00:25:11,250 So, it's quite a lucrative business to be honest, 574 00:25:11,250 --> 00:25:13,609 as long as everybody keeps going. 575 00:25:16,020 --> 00:25:18,020 So the day starts for me pretty early. 576 00:25:19,020 --> 00:25:22,410 I think most head keepers would be the same. 577 00:25:22,410 --> 00:25:25,109 You don't get much sleep the night before. 578 00:25:25,942 --> 00:25:26,775 Morning boys, how are you? 579 00:25:26,775 --> 00:25:27,608 - Good. - Yeah. 580 00:25:27,608 --> 00:25:28,441 So, how's the game? 581 00:25:28,441 --> 00:25:29,274 - Pete. - Alex. 582 00:25:29,274 --> 00:25:30,840 I look like him almost, but yeah, how you doing? 583 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:31,673 It's all good. 584 00:25:31,673 --> 00:25:33,556 Yeah, good, good. Baller. 585 00:25:33,556 --> 00:25:34,389 Hi. 586 00:25:34,389 --> 00:25:35,222 Hi. 587 00:25:35,222 --> 00:25:36,055 What regiment are you boys? 588 00:25:36,055 --> 00:25:38,580 Eh 589 00:25:38,580 --> 00:25:39,630 Oh, a bit whole different. 590 00:25:39,630 --> 00:25:40,463 Yeah, yeah. 591 00:25:40,463 --> 00:25:41,370 Yeah, yeah. Cool. 592 00:25:41,370 --> 00:25:42,203 Done A bad being. 593 00:25:42,203 --> 00:25:43,036 Nice. 594 00:25:43,036 --> 00:25:43,869 Yeah. 595 00:25:43,869 --> 00:25:45,248 Seasoned beaters like half. 596 00:25:45,248 --> 00:25:46,200 Nice. 597 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:47,940 Good stuff, guys. 598 00:25:47,940 --> 00:25:50,550 At Edinglassie estate, organizing a driven grouse shoot 599 00:25:50,550 --> 00:25:51,660 is no small feat. 600 00:25:51,660 --> 00:25:54,720 Alex oversees 30 beaters driving wild red grouse 601 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:59,340 toward eight guns or hunters stations and butts or blinds. 602 00:25:59,340 --> 00:26:01,380 The typical day involves six drives, 603 00:26:01,380 --> 00:26:02,520 and on a larger estate, 604 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:04,830 birds may be pushed in two directions 605 00:26:04,830 --> 00:26:06,930 during back-to-back drives. 606 00:26:06,930 --> 00:26:08,780 22 and a half old, 90. 607 00:26:09,864 --> 00:26:13,800 Okay,. 608 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,860 Alex and his beekeepers meticulously sort the grouse 609 00:26:16,860 --> 00:26:18,420 after a day's work. 610 00:26:18,420 --> 00:26:20,850 The young birds find their way to game dealers, 611 00:26:20,850 --> 00:26:22,980 distributing them to restaurants and markets 612 00:26:22,980 --> 00:26:24,720 across the UK. 613 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:27,300 Each gun takes home a brace or two, 614 00:26:27,300 --> 00:26:29,970 while beaters and support staff depart with a brace 615 00:26:29,970 --> 00:26:31,095 for their own tables. 616 00:26:35,070 --> 00:26:38,370 The famed Glorious Twelfth marks the start of grouse season 617 00:26:38,370 --> 00:26:40,470 upholding a longstanding tradition 618 00:26:40,470 --> 00:26:43,560 of featuring this quarry in the finest restaurants 619 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:45,099 across Scotland. 620 00:26:45,099 --> 00:26:46,500 The grouse to me is the holy grail. 621 00:26:46,500 --> 00:26:48,390 It's the holy grail of what we do here. 622 00:26:48,390 --> 00:26:49,920 It's heap in history. 623 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,800 It's something that we're really proud to do here 624 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:53,700 in the restaurant. 625 00:26:53,700 --> 00:26:56,970 Every year, we celebrate it, the Glorious Twelfth. 626 00:26:56,970 --> 00:26:58,560 People come from all over the world 627 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:00,210 to eat the grouse on the 12th, 628 00:27:00,210 --> 00:27:01,800 but we don't take it for granted, you know? 629 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,500 The work that goes into, you know, 630 00:27:04,500 --> 00:27:06,360 keeping the grouse to shooting the grouse, 631 00:27:06,360 --> 00:27:09,210 to protecting the grouse, to keeping the traditional alive, 632 00:27:09,210 --> 00:27:10,043 you know? 633 00:27:10,043 --> 00:27:11,850 So someone like Andy going to pick it up 634 00:27:11,850 --> 00:27:13,530 from the shoot, the goat, the gamekeepers 635 00:27:13,530 --> 00:27:16,080 looking after the grouse through the tough times 636 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:19,770 from when the exit hatched to now. 637 00:27:19,770 --> 00:27:22,260 It's part of the journey and it goes hand in hand 638 00:27:22,260 --> 00:27:25,560 with what we do here and our philosophy of nature to plate. 639 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:27,240 The young birds of which are really tender. 640 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:28,110 This is what we're after. 641 00:27:28,110 --> 00:27:28,980 This is the holy grail. 642 00:27:28,980 --> 00:27:31,080 This is when you eat it, it's like butter. 643 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:32,757 It's tender. It's absolutely delicious. 644 00:27:35,490 --> 00:27:37,320 Grouse moors on shooting estates 645 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:39,030 undergo intense management, 646 00:27:39,030 --> 00:27:41,610 a crucial responsibility of the gamekeeper, 647 00:27:41,610 --> 00:27:44,400 sparking debates about the land's usage. 648 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,770 However, many argue that it's hard 649 00:27:46,770 --> 00:27:49,260 to justify using this land this way, 650 00:27:49,260 --> 00:27:52,050 but science tells us a different story. 651 00:27:52,050 --> 00:27:55,440 Grouse moor management provides the habitat for the grouse 652 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,300 and reduces the predation level 653 00:27:57,300 --> 00:28:00,510 and the disease risk for grouse. 654 00:28:00,510 --> 00:28:02,820 But that also means that other species 655 00:28:02,820 --> 00:28:05,790 that enjoy the same habitats, such as the waders, 656 00:28:05,790 --> 00:28:09,300 like curlew, they're having the same benefits. 657 00:28:09,300 --> 00:28:11,370 Well, we're gonna do a grouse count 658 00:28:11,370 --> 00:28:14,010 so that we can look at how many young 659 00:28:14,010 --> 00:28:16,110 and how many old grouse there are on this bit. 660 00:28:16,110 --> 00:28:18,360 And it's a bit of ground that we count every year. 661 00:28:18,360 --> 00:28:22,530 I walk along the transact and the dog quarters in front. 662 00:28:22,530 --> 00:28:25,050 So, the dog will be hunting with the wind 663 00:28:25,050 --> 00:28:26,400 looking for grouse. 664 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,890 And whenever any grouse flush, 665 00:28:28,890 --> 00:28:32,730 we need to write down how many old and how many young, 666 00:28:32,730 --> 00:28:35,460 because all the data I collect obviously goes straight 667 00:28:35,460 --> 00:28:38,820 to the estates and they compare it with previous counts. 668 00:28:38,820 --> 00:28:40,740 But from our point of view 669 00:28:40,740 --> 00:28:43,080 as the Game and Wildlife Conservation Trust, 670 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:44,280 we're collecting this data, 671 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,740 so that we can look at long-term trends 672 00:28:46,740 --> 00:28:49,680 and compare the kind of management that's done on the grouse 673 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,517 with, you know, what impact it is on the grouse themselves 674 00:28:52,517 --> 00:28:55,593 and on other wildlife that shares the same habitats. 675 00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,970 If it's more about less animals being shot, 676 00:28:59,970 --> 00:29:03,030 would you have a problem with grouse mores 677 00:29:03,030 --> 00:29:05,610 if they weren't so intensively managed? 678 00:29:05,610 --> 00:29:09,510 I mean, the purpose is not to shoot large bag limits. 679 00:29:09,510 --> 00:29:12,210 So, I struggle still to get to 680 00:29:12,210 --> 00:29:15,600 is that there's any biodiversity benefit 681 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:17,430 from grouse moors of any sort. 682 00:29:17,430 --> 00:29:19,440 Large areas of land are being given award 683 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:21,120 for the management of a single species 684 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,670 for the very privileged few to benefit. 685 00:29:23,670 --> 00:29:26,340 How do you justify the loss of biodiversity 686 00:29:26,340 --> 00:29:29,880 if we don't intensively manage these hill sites? 687 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,430 I struggle to get my head around 688 00:29:32,430 --> 00:29:34,680 even the basis of the argument. 689 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:35,903 It's what they're sort of saying 690 00:29:35,903 --> 00:29:39,543 is that we have offshoot benefits from managing for grouse 691 00:29:39,543 --> 00:29:41,400 and we're gonna amplify those, 692 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,790 and then claim that somehow if we didn't manage for grouse, 693 00:29:44,790 --> 00:29:46,706 those species wouldn't exist. 694 00:29:46,706 --> 00:29:49,263 And you think that's difficult to understand 695 00:29:49,263 --> 00:29:51,060 that argument actually. 696 00:29:51,060 --> 00:29:53,430 If grouse shooting had never existed 697 00:29:53,430 --> 00:29:56,190 and in 2023 in a climate emergency, 698 00:29:56,190 --> 00:29:57,750 in a biodiversity emergency, 699 00:29:57,750 --> 00:30:00,990 somebody suggested it as a sustainable land use 700 00:30:00,990 --> 00:30:03,900 for the future, it would be laughed at. 701 00:30:03,900 --> 00:30:05,700 It would be completely dismissed. 702 00:30:05,700 --> 00:30:09,210 And yet, here we have roughly 12, 15% 703 00:30:09,210 --> 00:30:11,010 of Scotland's entire land area 704 00:30:11,010 --> 00:30:13,050 devoted to driven grouse shooting. 705 00:30:13,050 --> 00:30:13,920 Driven grouse shooting 706 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:17,783 was not really a big environmental problem as such. 707 00:30:17,783 --> 00:30:19,620 What it was a problem, 708 00:30:19,620 --> 00:30:24,206 however, was in the extent to which they killed anything 709 00:30:24,206 --> 00:30:27,840 that predated on grouse and grouse chicks. 710 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,300 The issue of predator control on grouse moors 711 00:30:30,300 --> 00:30:32,190 is steeped in controversy. 712 00:30:32,190 --> 00:30:35,580 Historically, gamekeepers and crofters were notorious 713 00:30:35,580 --> 00:30:37,860 for targeting various raptor species 714 00:30:37,860 --> 00:30:40,140 that threatened grouse and lambs. 715 00:30:40,140 --> 00:30:44,130 The killing of raptors was outlawed in 1954 in Scotland 716 00:30:44,130 --> 00:30:46,200 through the Protection of Birds Act. 717 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:50,490 However, the actions of a few rogue keepers who defy the law 718 00:30:50,490 --> 00:30:53,823 cast a shadow over the reputation of all keepers. 719 00:30:54,810 --> 00:30:56,836 Gamekeepers have come to symbolize 720 00:30:56,836 --> 00:31:01,620 the injustice in land ownership or the perceived injustice. 721 00:31:01,620 --> 00:31:04,920 There's links as well that we can't avoid of raptor crime. 722 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,980 And in the past, gamekeeping models in the country 723 00:31:07,980 --> 00:31:11,130 were responsible for killing a lot of our predatory species, 724 00:31:11,130 --> 00:31:12,690 but I really think that's very detached 725 00:31:12,690 --> 00:31:14,520 from the model today. 726 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:15,353 And I think we need to get over that. 727 00:31:15,353 --> 00:31:17,310 There's the historical vestige there 728 00:31:17,310 --> 00:31:19,830 that is really challenging for wildlife management. 729 00:31:19,830 --> 00:31:23,656 We know from a major study published five years ago 730 00:31:23,656 --> 00:31:28,650 on satellite tagged eagles was that applying an analysis 731 00:31:28,650 --> 00:31:33,450 of the fate of these eagles, these birds were disappearing. 732 00:31:33,450 --> 00:31:34,283 That's all they were doing. 733 00:31:34,283 --> 00:31:38,340 They were disappearing at far, far higher intensities 734 00:31:38,340 --> 00:31:40,530 on areas used for driven grouse moors. 735 00:31:40,530 --> 00:31:43,740 And that is all proven by data. 736 00:31:43,740 --> 00:31:46,050 And that proves that raptor persecution 737 00:31:46,050 --> 00:31:49,710 is still happening on driven grouse moors. 738 00:31:49,710 --> 00:31:51,063 It's just an nonsense. 739 00:31:52,500 --> 00:31:54,510 I mean, we've had harriers breed and draft on 740 00:31:54,510 --> 00:31:55,343 in recent years. 741 00:31:55,343 --> 00:31:58,770 We've got in numerous buzzard nests. 742 00:31:58,770 --> 00:32:01,680 I mean, a lot of the eagles that were taken 743 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,680 to repopulate Ireland, for example, 744 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:06,003 came from sporting estate. 745 00:32:06,990 --> 00:32:08,910 This was 20 years ago. 746 00:32:08,910 --> 00:32:11,700 We had enough surplus eagles to ship out 747 00:32:11,700 --> 00:32:13,740 to reintroduction programs, 748 00:32:13,740 --> 00:32:16,110 but they hunt on these moors for a reason. 749 00:32:16,110 --> 00:32:18,180 You know, there's plenty of prey. 750 00:32:18,180 --> 00:32:19,440 This is down to our management. 751 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,260 This is because we're controlling the legal predators 752 00:32:22,260 --> 00:32:25,465 that we can, like the fox, stokes, crows. 753 00:32:25,465 --> 00:32:29,043 And that's why you see so many raptors on grouse moors. 754 00:32:29,043 --> 00:32:32,610 There's evidence on a regular basis that is it going on. 755 00:32:32,610 --> 00:32:35,100 Is it going on all estates? No. 756 00:32:35,100 --> 00:32:38,340 Is it any more appropriate or moral 757 00:32:38,340 --> 00:32:41,610 to shoot stout or to shoot a golden eagle? 758 00:32:41,610 --> 00:32:43,639 Golden eagle is illegal to shoot 759 00:32:43,639 --> 00:32:46,980 and society rightly recoils in horror, 760 00:32:46,980 --> 00:32:49,987 but stouts are somehow dispensable. 761 00:32:52,350 --> 00:32:54,840 Traditionally, you know, birds of prey 762 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:56,010 was seen as competition. 763 00:32:56,010 --> 00:32:59,370 So particularly on grouse moors back in Victorian times, 764 00:32:59,370 --> 00:33:01,410 any predator there that was competition for the grouse 765 00:33:01,410 --> 00:33:02,610 was eliminated. 766 00:33:02,610 --> 00:33:04,590 You know, we know that that's part of the history. 767 00:33:04,590 --> 00:33:06,270 A couple hundred years ago, 768 00:33:06,270 --> 00:33:08,580 numbers were, you know, much reduced 769 00:33:08,580 --> 00:33:10,950 due to mostly to human influence persecution 770 00:33:10,950 --> 00:33:12,060 across Scotland. 771 00:33:12,060 --> 00:33:15,240 When legal protection came in about 50, 60 years ago, 772 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,880 numbers have begun to increase across most of Scotland, 773 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,250 but in the South we weren't seeing that increase. 774 00:33:20,250 --> 00:33:22,860 There was a very small isolated residual population 775 00:33:22,860 --> 00:33:25,830 of just three pairs, so six, seven birds 776 00:33:25,830 --> 00:33:28,050 and they weren't producing enough young for the population 777 00:33:28,050 --> 00:33:29,280 to kind of increase on its own. 778 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:30,900 So, we decided to do a translocation 779 00:33:30,900 --> 00:33:34,140 to bring chicks from nest in the Highlands and islands down 780 00:33:34,140 --> 00:33:35,100 into the south of Scotland, 781 00:33:35,100 --> 00:33:36,840 just to kind of boost that population. 782 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,360 We take a chick from a nest of twins, 783 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:40,890 taking one, leaving one behind. 784 00:33:40,890 --> 00:33:42,600 We actually work with a qualified vets, 785 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:44,550 who comes with us to every nest. 786 00:33:44,550 --> 00:33:45,930 They'll do a health check on both birds 787 00:33:45,930 --> 00:33:47,130 and make sure that we are taking 788 00:33:47,130 --> 00:33:49,260 really strong healthy chicks for translocation. 789 00:33:49,260 --> 00:33:50,490 They remain completely wild. 790 00:33:50,490 --> 00:33:52,200 We are feeding them from behind a screen. 791 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,270 So, we're giving them natural food that they'd expect. 792 00:33:54,270 --> 00:33:56,820 Things like rabbits and bits and bobs like that. 793 00:33:56,820 --> 00:33:58,200 And they stay in the Avery and they grow 794 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,210 until they're, you know, would naturally fledge. 795 00:34:00,210 --> 00:34:02,100 So, they're full adult size. 796 00:34:02,100 --> 00:34:04,980 We have released 20 juvenile golden eagles. 797 00:34:04,980 --> 00:34:07,470 Some of the older birds are now four, five years old. 798 00:34:07,470 --> 00:34:09,510 They are pairing up, settling on territories. 799 00:34:09,510 --> 00:34:12,180 So, we're now looking at probably five new territories, 800 00:34:12,180 --> 00:34:13,800 which is brilliant progress 801 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:15,630 in kinda five, six years that we've had. 802 00:34:15,630 --> 00:34:18,990 Out of the 20 or so birds that we've translocated, 803 00:34:18,990 --> 00:34:21,960 I'd say 18 or 19 of them have come from land 804 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:22,890 managed for shooting. 805 00:34:22,890 --> 00:34:25,140 So typically, grouse moors and stalking. 806 00:34:25,140 --> 00:34:26,910 We've not lost any birds to persecution. 807 00:34:26,910 --> 00:34:28,470 If you look at the tag data from our eagles, 808 00:34:28,470 --> 00:34:29,640 they are spending a lot of time 809 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:30,930 in areas managed for shooting. 810 00:34:30,930 --> 00:34:33,660 I think without those areas, we wouldn't have the prey base. 811 00:34:33,660 --> 00:34:35,820 We wouldn't have the available habitat for golden eagle. 812 00:34:35,820 --> 00:34:37,760 So I think it's really, really kind of key important part 813 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:39,150 to having them there. 814 00:34:39,150 --> 00:34:40,770 The issues that we have had 815 00:34:40,770 --> 00:34:42,300 have been unrelated to persecution. 816 00:34:42,300 --> 00:34:43,620 You know, we've even had tags fall off 817 00:34:43,620 --> 00:34:44,820 and found them on grouse moors. 818 00:34:44,820 --> 00:34:46,860 So, I think jumping to those conclusions 819 00:34:46,860 --> 00:34:49,320 that it's automatically persecution, I think, is unhelpful. 820 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,210 The keeper support is really important. 821 00:34:51,210 --> 00:34:52,980 So yeah, they have that incredible knowledge 822 00:34:52,980 --> 00:34:53,910 of their ground. 823 00:34:53,910 --> 00:34:55,620 They often know where their eagles are nesting 824 00:34:55,620 --> 00:34:56,790 and how they're doing. 825 00:34:56,790 --> 00:34:58,290 And in terms of collection, you know, 826 00:34:58,290 --> 00:34:59,730 we really couldn't do it without keepers. 827 00:34:59,730 --> 00:35:02,070 They're helping to often take the team out 828 00:35:02,070 --> 00:35:04,290 to the nest in ATVs or four by fours, 829 00:35:04,290 --> 00:35:06,000 which helps us access very quickly 830 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:07,650 and get the chicks back very quickly as well. 831 00:35:07,650 --> 00:35:09,540 Much of the food we're getting for our young eagles 832 00:35:09,540 --> 00:35:10,620 is provided by keepers. 833 00:35:10,620 --> 00:35:12,720 So, we're getting foxes, rabbits, squirrels, 834 00:35:12,720 --> 00:35:13,553 that kind of thing. 835 00:35:13,553 --> 00:35:14,386 And nearly all of that 836 00:35:14,386 --> 00:35:15,930 is coming from keepers in the south of Scotland. 837 00:35:15,930 --> 00:35:17,806 So, the support has been absolutely fantastic. 838 00:35:17,806 --> 00:35:19,890 And welcoming us, welcoming the eagles, 839 00:35:19,890 --> 00:35:22,680 you know, sharing sightings, things like that. 840 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:24,300 You know, shooting estates welcoming us 841 00:35:24,300 --> 00:35:25,680 with, you know, with artificial areas, 842 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:26,760 like the one behind me, 843 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:28,470 I see that partnership with shooting estates 844 00:35:28,470 --> 00:35:30,538 as one of the real successes of this project. 845 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,300 Taking the life of a raptor in Scotland 846 00:35:36,300 --> 00:35:38,850 now carries severe consequences. 847 00:35:38,850 --> 00:35:41,820 An automatic prison sentence and unlimited fines 848 00:35:41,820 --> 00:35:45,030 with both landowner and the employee held accountable. 849 00:35:45,030 --> 00:35:48,750 The risk is palatable, making it a choice few, if any, 850 00:35:48,750 --> 00:35:50,130 would consider. 851 00:35:50,130 --> 00:35:53,760 For gamekeepers managing ground predators is integral 852 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,550 to the success of wild red grouse populations 853 00:35:56,550 --> 00:35:59,430 and yields unintended positive effects 854 00:35:59,430 --> 00:36:02,280 on ground nesting waders and raptors. 855 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,890 However, government efforts to license 856 00:36:04,890 --> 00:36:07,890 and restrict specific predator control methods 857 00:36:07,890 --> 00:36:11,370 presents challenges for keepers in executing their duties. 858 00:36:11,370 --> 00:36:14,700 The control of foxes with snares is deemed crucial. 859 00:36:14,700 --> 00:36:18,030 In 2023, the Scottish government proposed a complete ban 860 00:36:18,030 --> 00:36:21,150 on their use, raising concerns about how gamekeepers 861 00:36:21,150 --> 00:36:24,090 will continue to fulfill their roles. 862 00:36:24,090 --> 00:36:27,270 So, I'm targeting targeting the fox here. 863 00:36:27,270 --> 00:36:29,880 And so as the fox walk wanders down here, 864 00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,820 it'll pick up and round the neck here 865 00:36:32,820 --> 00:36:34,710 and it's just a restraining device. 866 00:36:34,710 --> 00:36:36,120 It's not a killing device. 867 00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:38,070 I have to check these every 24 hours, 868 00:36:38,070 --> 00:36:39,780 well within a 24 hour period. 869 00:36:39,780 --> 00:36:41,130 So every day. 870 00:36:41,130 --> 00:36:44,670 So if it's a non-target species, a hare for example, 871 00:36:44,670 --> 00:36:46,620 I can just, I can let it go. 872 00:36:46,620 --> 00:36:51,270 These are pretty heavily legislated in Scotland these days. 873 00:36:51,270 --> 00:36:52,920 They have to be set in a certain way, 874 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,050 designed in a certain way. 875 00:36:55,050 --> 00:36:59,250 I have to have my own unique snaring number attached to it, 876 00:36:59,250 --> 00:37:01,590 so folk know that I've set these snares. 877 00:37:01,590 --> 00:37:03,720 Everybody that undertakes snaring in Scotland now 878 00:37:03,720 --> 00:37:07,050 has to be trained and we have to keep record. 879 00:37:07,050 --> 00:37:09,120 The detriment is to those species 880 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:12,720 that are literally eliminated to allow red grouse 881 00:37:12,720 --> 00:37:15,540 to produce a harvest for the shooters. 882 00:37:15,540 --> 00:37:18,030 If you're a crow, or a fox, or a stout, or a weasel, 883 00:37:18,030 --> 00:37:21,210 it's detrimental 'cause you have your head blown off. 884 00:37:21,210 --> 00:37:24,090 The studies we've done have clearly shown 885 00:37:24,090 --> 00:37:27,180 that wader breeding success is much greater 886 00:37:27,180 --> 00:37:29,040 when there's grouse moor management, 887 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,650 particularly the predator control aspect. 888 00:37:31,650 --> 00:37:35,010 So, the birds of here are at higher densities 889 00:37:35,010 --> 00:37:36,270 when there's grouse moor management, 890 00:37:36,270 --> 00:37:38,370 as well as breeding much better, 891 00:37:38,370 --> 00:37:41,190 which means that populations are likely to be robust enough 892 00:37:41,190 --> 00:37:44,500 to continue and hopefully even increase into the future. 893 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,690 Gamekeepers employ a strategic approach 894 00:37:48,690 --> 00:37:50,340 to Heather moorland management 895 00:37:50,340 --> 00:37:53,520 utilizing low intensity burning in small patches, 896 00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:55,500 typically less than half an acre. 897 00:37:55,500 --> 00:37:58,920 This practice efficiently clears old or overgrown heather, 898 00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:02,160 fostering a mosaic pattern of new growth buds. 899 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:03,930 From this rejuvenated growth, 900 00:38:03,930 --> 00:38:06,960 young grouse find a vital primary food source 901 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,750 ensuring a sustainable ecosystem. 902 00:38:09,750 --> 00:38:12,780 Once the heather gets old and degenerate, 903 00:38:12,780 --> 00:38:15,720 it loses a lot of its feed value. 904 00:38:15,720 --> 00:38:17,820 So, we look to rotationally burn it on a cycle. 905 00:38:17,820 --> 00:38:20,307 Now, that cycle's roughly about 20 years up here 906 00:38:20,307 --> 00:38:22,800 and we take the surface of the vegetation off 907 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:24,630 only just the heather. 908 00:38:24,630 --> 00:38:27,240 it leaves the understory of the mosses, et cetera. 909 00:38:27,240 --> 00:38:30,483 Removing that old vegetation results in new growth. 910 00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:33,330 One common argument against muirburn 911 00:38:33,330 --> 00:38:36,360 is its impact on peat, crucial carbon storage 912 00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:37,950 deep in the heather moorland. 913 00:38:37,950 --> 00:38:41,610 However, my firsthand observation challenges this notion. 914 00:38:41,610 --> 00:38:44,760 The mirror burn I witnessed moves swiftly across the land, 915 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:46,950 leaving a chocolate bar buried in the soil 916 00:38:46,950 --> 00:38:49,140 beneath the heather untouched. 917 00:38:49,140 --> 00:38:52,080 The candy remained as fresh as the day it was made 918 00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,000 demonstrating the keepers precision 919 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,100 and targeting specific vegetation 920 00:38:56,100 --> 00:38:58,732 without compromising the surrounding environment. 921 00:39:01,290 --> 00:39:03,510 If you're trying to conserve global biodiversity, 922 00:39:03,510 --> 00:39:06,750 the full range of plants, animals on the planet 923 00:39:06,750 --> 00:39:09,480 need to conserve the variety of natural habitats 924 00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:10,770 across the world. 925 00:39:10,770 --> 00:39:12,453 And that means heather moorland. 926 00:39:12,453 --> 00:39:14,370 Heather moorland is an ancient landscape 927 00:39:14,370 --> 00:39:16,110 between a thousands of years old 928 00:39:16,110 --> 00:39:18,360 and burning doesn't stop it being a heather moorland. 929 00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:20,910 It just adds diversity of pattern to it. 930 00:39:20,910 --> 00:39:24,570 Those landscapes is actually what brings in huge amounts 931 00:39:24,570 --> 00:39:27,210 of tourists to Scotland in particular 932 00:39:27,210 --> 00:39:29,250 because of this unique habitat that we have. 933 00:39:29,250 --> 00:39:31,860 And I think we do value it as a nation. 934 00:39:31,860 --> 00:39:34,980 And I think that's been forgotten with this whole argument 935 00:39:34,980 --> 00:39:38,190 of planting the trees and it's more money 936 00:39:38,190 --> 00:39:42,234 and focusing on the carbon sequestration side of things. 937 00:39:46,530 --> 00:39:47,850 I'm in Kinrara, 938 00:39:47,850 --> 00:39:50,730 an old grouse shooting and stalking estate. 939 00:39:50,730 --> 00:39:53,520 It has been purchased by a Scottish beer company 940 00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:55,740 that wishes to be the first beer company 941 00:39:55,740 --> 00:39:57,600 to be carbon neutral. 942 00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:00,690 Unfortunately, when you talk to the scientist, 943 00:40:00,690 --> 00:40:04,680 what you see behind me not only destroys what the UN says 944 00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:06,780 is an ecosystem of concern, 945 00:40:06,780 --> 00:40:09,900 but also creates many other issues. 946 00:40:09,900 --> 00:40:12,420 I mean, what we have at the moment is this real rush 947 00:40:12,420 --> 00:40:14,760 into the whole carbon market, carbon trading market. 948 00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,929 And that we will risk losing altogether a range of species, 949 00:40:17,929 --> 00:40:20,587 you know, in this sort of carbon gold rush. 950 00:40:22,050 --> 00:40:22,920 There's another debate, 951 00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:24,990 which is that we want to offset carbon. 952 00:40:24,990 --> 00:40:27,240 I've got a super tank of oil on the way to New Zealand. 953 00:40:27,240 --> 00:40:28,890 I want to decarbonize it. How do I do it? 954 00:40:28,890 --> 00:40:31,230 Well, I plant some trees in some other country 955 00:40:31,230 --> 00:40:32,910 and I sell the carbon credits for it. 956 00:40:32,910 --> 00:40:35,070 And then, I've decarbonized and made money. 957 00:40:35,070 --> 00:40:37,020 We can't just go short term 958 00:40:37,020 --> 00:40:39,330 and say there's short term economic goals. 959 00:40:39,330 --> 00:40:41,220 That we need to meet our political goals 960 00:40:41,220 --> 00:40:43,010 that we're trying to get to and damage 961 00:40:43,010 --> 00:40:45,570 our very natural assets that we've only got once. 962 00:40:45,570 --> 00:40:47,400 Once we've damaged them or destroyed them, 963 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:48,600 we don't get 'em back. 964 00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:53,600 Peatland is the greatest sequestration vessel for carbon. 965 00:40:53,970 --> 00:40:57,010 And actually planting woodland on peatland, deep peat, 966 00:40:57,010 --> 00:40:58,290 is counterproductive. 967 00:40:58,290 --> 00:41:01,110 It actually releases more carbon than it sequesters. 968 00:41:01,110 --> 00:41:02,569 The big corporates will enter the market. 969 00:41:02,569 --> 00:41:05,490 They will buy their carbon or create their carbon, 970 00:41:05,490 --> 00:41:08,280 and then exit the market again quite quickly thereafter. 971 00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,770 And what they'll leave us with is uncertain. 972 00:41:10,770 --> 00:41:14,100 I think we should make it illegal to sell carbon credits. 973 00:41:14,100 --> 00:41:16,380 We should be restoring these ecosystems 974 00:41:16,380 --> 00:41:18,210 because it's a good thing to do, 975 00:41:18,210 --> 00:41:19,680 because it sequesters carbon, 976 00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:21,270 because it helps cool the planet, 977 00:41:21,270 --> 00:41:24,173 and we shouldn't be getting messed up at offsetting schemes. 978 00:41:25,230 --> 00:41:26,063 I was invited 979 00:41:26,063 --> 00:41:28,500 by wildlife photographer Neil McIntyre 980 00:41:28,500 --> 00:41:31,530 and his son-in-law Ed Jaundrel, a gamekeeper, 981 00:41:31,530 --> 00:41:34,710 to see carbon sequestration schemes in action. 982 00:41:34,710 --> 00:41:38,220 Neil's brother was a second generation keeper on Kinrara, 983 00:41:38,220 --> 00:41:40,680 but when the estate was purchased by the brewery, 984 00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:42,360 all the keepers were fired. 985 00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:45,303 What they showed me on the old estate blew my mind. 986 00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:48,360 Well, it was a, I would say more than that, 987 00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:51,030 it was a very typical, we call a typical highland estate. 988 00:41:51,030 --> 00:41:52,530 Had a bit of everything. 989 00:41:52,530 --> 00:41:54,720 Yeah, grouse very much so. 990 00:41:54,720 --> 00:41:56,370 But a, you know, decent deer stocking, 991 00:41:56,370 --> 00:41:59,850 a roll stocking, and it just looks horrendous 992 00:41:59,850 --> 00:42:01,250 to be honest with you. 993 00:42:01,250 --> 00:42:04,560 It beats me how that's conducive to conservation 994 00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:07,590 or you know, it's just mind boggling really 995 00:42:07,590 --> 00:42:10,008 with the damage they've done in that place. 996 00:42:10,008 --> 00:42:12,030 You know, you used to drive up this road, 997 00:42:12,030 --> 00:42:14,610 these rocky knolls will be full of kestrels. 998 00:42:14,610 --> 00:42:17,520 Further out we go, we'd see eagles. 999 00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:20,190 But if it's all been fenced off and they're culling the deer 1000 00:42:20,190 --> 00:42:24,240 and let's say the hares, there's no food source valley 1001 00:42:24,240 --> 00:42:25,620 for any of these predators now. 1002 00:42:25,620 --> 00:42:29,450 So, there's no real reason for these birds to be back here. 1003 00:42:31,170 --> 00:42:32,003 The sheer volume of trees 1004 00:42:32,003 --> 00:42:33,870 that are getting parked in, 1005 00:42:33,870 --> 00:42:34,950 you know, they're not for, you know, 1006 00:42:34,950 --> 00:42:36,360 they're for carbon capture. 1007 00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:37,332 So they're the forests 1008 00:42:37,332 --> 00:42:40,200 that are gonna be supposedly there forevermore. 1009 00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:41,580 But what a missed opportunity as well 1010 00:42:41,580 --> 00:42:43,560 to actually to create nice forests, 1011 00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:45,390 you know, just a little bit of thought. 1012 00:42:45,390 --> 00:42:47,700 Have some open bits, you know, just have it, 1013 00:42:47,700 --> 00:42:50,760 just, you know, you could have the native trees in it, 1014 00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:52,530 You know, there was always exposed peat 1015 00:42:52,530 --> 00:42:53,700 out in the hill, 1016 00:42:53,700 --> 00:42:56,010 but now there's more exposed peat on this estate 1017 00:42:56,010 --> 00:42:58,290 than ever before. 1018 00:42:58,290 --> 00:43:02,010 And it's gonna take at least 10 years, 1019 00:43:02,010 --> 00:43:04,440 five years to 10 years to get them trees established 1020 00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:06,917 and to get that heather to grow back under it. 1021 00:43:06,917 --> 00:43:09,660 And it eventually it will die back 1022 00:43:09,660 --> 00:43:11,640 when it's all got a canvas of pain 1023 00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:13,983 and no light getting to all these, 1024 00:43:15,180 --> 00:43:16,647 you know, plants and everything. 1025 00:43:16,647 --> 00:43:18,180 And that's the end of that. 1026 00:43:18,180 --> 00:43:21,060 And if there was a fire here sit by a barbecue 1027 00:43:21,060 --> 00:43:24,957 or anybody, it would go up through the moor. 1028 00:43:24,957 --> 00:43:28,770 But when all that's one big bunker for fuel load, 1029 00:43:28,770 --> 00:43:31,413 you'll never get this out ever. 1030 00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:35,190 The example you've mentioned not too far from here, 1031 00:43:35,190 --> 00:43:37,950 I would argue is not a particularly good example. 1032 00:43:37,950 --> 00:43:40,033 I think their motivations are questionable, 1033 00:43:40,033 --> 00:43:42,968 but equally we work with corporate bodies 1034 00:43:42,968 --> 00:43:44,370 who have no agenda. 1035 00:43:44,370 --> 00:43:45,390 They don't want greenwash. 1036 00:43:45,390 --> 00:43:47,057 They just want to give back to nature 1037 00:43:47,057 --> 00:43:50,130 and in many cases, give back to local communities as well. 1038 00:43:50,130 --> 00:43:51,330 So, we need to make sure 1039 00:43:51,330 --> 00:43:55,547 that the motivation of these investors is well placed. 1040 00:43:55,547 --> 00:43:57,720 And it is true to say that in some cases 1041 00:43:57,720 --> 00:43:59,190 that's not the case. 1042 00:43:59,190 --> 00:44:00,023 It's been realized 1043 00:44:00,023 --> 00:44:01,830 there were a lot of plantations of trees 1044 00:44:01,830 --> 00:44:06,390 of non-native conifers, biological part of this instance 1045 00:44:06,390 --> 00:44:08,760 in the peat bogs in the north, very north of Scotland, 1046 00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:10,740 what's called the flow country. 1047 00:44:10,740 --> 00:44:14,430 And research shows there that the water content 1048 00:44:14,430 --> 00:44:16,693 of the soil goes down, it dries out the soil 1049 00:44:16,693 --> 00:44:18,690 and the peat oxidizes away. 1050 00:44:18,690 --> 00:44:20,970 That carbon's released into the air. 1051 00:44:20,970 --> 00:44:22,560 So, it's known for quite a long time now 1052 00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:25,800 that planting trees on deep peat isn't good for the climate 1053 00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,620 'cause an order magnitude more carbon stored in the peat 1054 00:44:28,620 --> 00:44:30,030 than the trees. 1055 00:44:30,030 --> 00:44:32,973 So, there's now a government of not planting on deep peat, 1056 00:44:33,810 --> 00:44:37,350 but there's no policy by not planting on shallow peat. 1057 00:44:37,350 --> 00:44:41,520 Peat is a dead plant remains as the plants remains decay. 1058 00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:43,140 You know, the peat gets thicker and thicker and thicker, 1059 00:44:43,140 --> 00:44:46,290 being a store of carbon for 5,000 years or more. 1060 00:44:46,290 --> 00:44:48,180 Trees are cut down after 60 years. 1061 00:44:48,180 --> 00:44:51,450 They can't store more than 60 years worth of carbon. 1062 00:44:51,450 --> 00:44:55,440 So if you have a shallow peat and plant trees on that, 1063 00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:56,273 you're stopping that, 1064 00:44:56,273 --> 00:44:58,337 going to be a huge terrestrial store of carbon. 1065 00:44:58,337 --> 00:45:00,360 'Cause that much organic matter 1066 00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:03,300 covering the landscape stores as much forest, 1067 00:45:03,300 --> 00:45:04,710 sorry, stores as much carbon 1068 00:45:04,710 --> 00:45:07,960 as a 60 year rotation spruce forest. 1069 00:45:11,370 --> 00:45:12,600 The Highlands of Scotland 1070 00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:14,850 and the sporting estates play a crucial role 1071 00:45:14,850 --> 00:45:17,640 in sustaining the incomes of rural communities, 1072 00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:19,620 Beyond direct staff employment, 1073 00:45:19,620 --> 00:45:22,230 these estates contribute to the local economy 1074 00:45:22,230 --> 00:45:24,330 through various spinoff benefits. 1075 00:45:24,330 --> 00:45:26,550 Thanks to the businesses in the area 1076 00:45:26,550 --> 00:45:28,230 and the guests they attract. 1077 00:45:28,230 --> 00:45:30,180 However, rewilding advocates 1078 00:45:30,180 --> 00:45:33,810 argue that even more robust job opportunities could arise 1079 00:45:33,810 --> 00:45:36,360 from the managing of restored ecosystems 1080 00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:38,518 and the resulting boost in tourism. 1081 00:45:39,780 --> 00:45:42,160 If you look at the land that we own 1082 00:45:43,094 --> 00:45:46,320 as a John Muir Trust or even the those that are involved 1083 00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:48,000 in the environmental sector, 1084 00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:50,117 the employment base per acre is higher than it is 1085 00:45:50,117 --> 00:45:52,170 in the sporting estates. 1086 00:45:52,170 --> 00:45:55,230 So, those are not jobs in the sort of tourism sector. 1087 00:45:55,230 --> 00:45:56,640 Those are jobs in land management. 1088 00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:57,990 These are high quality jobs. 1089 00:45:57,990 --> 00:45:59,130 We've seen it on Skye 1090 00:45:59,130 --> 00:46:03,420 this whole kind of tourism boom, 1091 00:46:03,420 --> 00:46:06,450 where often many of these operators 1092 00:46:06,450 --> 00:46:08,250 are coming out with Skye, 1093 00:46:08,250 --> 00:46:11,350 Edinburgh, Glasgow, Aberdeen 1094 00:46:12,750 --> 00:46:13,800 coming here. 1095 00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:16,470 Those people are not linked to that landscape. 1096 00:46:16,470 --> 00:46:18,483 They're not managing that landscape. 1097 00:46:19,410 --> 00:46:21,120 They're coming here now 1098 00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:25,650 in this supposedly devoid landscape and they're enjoying it. 1099 00:46:25,650 --> 00:46:28,200 They are seeing deer. They are seeing eagles. 1100 00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:30,930 They're seeing this wealth of wildlife. 1101 00:46:30,930 --> 00:46:34,380 They love to see the heather in bloom on the grouse moors. 1102 00:46:34,380 --> 00:46:37,020 So, they're coming here now on mass 1103 00:46:37,020 --> 00:46:40,380 and there is a huge amount of wealth there, agreed. 1104 00:46:40,380 --> 00:46:43,143 But direct jobs on the ground, 1105 00:46:44,460 --> 00:46:45,910 that's not the case just now. 1106 00:46:47,155 --> 00:46:48,660 You know what COVID showed us 1107 00:46:48,660 --> 00:46:49,920 and what broadband has shown us 1108 00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:53,040 is that people want to live in these rural areas. 1109 00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:55,680 You can communicate with the rest of your sector, 1110 00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:56,640 whatever that sector is. 1111 00:46:56,640 --> 00:47:00,060 It doesn't really matter through broadband connections now. 1112 00:47:00,060 --> 00:47:02,760 And you can be living in some of the most spectacular places 1113 00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:03,660 in the world. 1114 00:47:03,660 --> 00:47:06,420 The concept that we need to in some way 1115 00:47:06,420 --> 00:47:10,170 have extractive industries based on our land 1116 00:47:10,170 --> 00:47:12,960 is kind of moved that part a sort of an old paradigm 1117 00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:14,373 has been a big shift there. 1118 00:47:15,390 --> 00:47:16,860 The sporting estates in this area 1119 00:47:16,860 --> 00:47:18,450 is what's keeping it going. 1120 00:47:18,450 --> 00:47:21,150 Everything gets poured back into the community 1121 00:47:21,150 --> 00:47:24,750 For jacket, waistcoat, breaks, and a cap, 1122 00:47:24,750 --> 00:47:27,450 including the cloth, you are speaking 1123 00:47:27,450 --> 00:47:29,763 about 900 to a thousand pounds. 1124 00:47:30,690 --> 00:47:33,360 And we've been dependent on gamekeepers 1125 00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:38,360 for possibly 50 to 60% of the business. 1126 00:47:38,700 --> 00:47:42,360 I would fear that possibly I couldn't stay open 1127 00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:46,380 without shooting, hunting, and fishing. 1128 00:47:46,380 --> 00:47:47,760 You know, the manufacturer of our guns 1129 00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:51,480 supports the community and the industry. 1130 00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:54,210 We obviously provide all the shooting facility 1131 00:47:54,210 --> 00:47:56,969 that supports the local community. 1132 00:47:56,969 --> 00:48:01,020 That comes through in terms of supporting 1133 00:48:01,020 --> 00:48:05,730 the local estates with their ammunition, with their guns. 1134 00:48:05,730 --> 00:48:09,390 And also, you know, the shooting parties that come into us 1135 00:48:09,390 --> 00:48:11,190 are staying in the local community. 1136 00:48:11,190 --> 00:48:12,450 They're staying in Dunkeld. 1137 00:48:12,450 --> 00:48:13,890 They're eating in our restaurants. 1138 00:48:13,890 --> 00:48:15,300 They're drinking in our pubs. 1139 00:48:15,300 --> 00:48:17,400 They're bringing revenue into the economy, 1140 00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:19,500 into the locals pockets at the end of the day. 1141 00:48:19,500 --> 00:48:22,740 To be blunt, it would decimate the country. 1142 00:48:22,740 --> 00:48:24,123 It decimate the Highlands. 1143 00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:27,044 So, we got the fishing clients 1144 00:48:27,044 --> 00:48:29,820 and they tend to come in groups 1145 00:48:29,820 --> 00:48:32,730 of maybe between four, six, or eight. 1146 00:48:32,730 --> 00:48:36,360 And they'll typically be up here for a week. 1147 00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:38,193 Then, you've got the stalking side. 1148 00:48:39,300 --> 00:48:40,980 They're gonna be in smaller groups, you know. 1149 00:48:40,980 --> 00:48:42,749 We've got maybe two or four. 1150 00:48:42,749 --> 00:48:43,582 They're coming up here. 1151 00:48:43,582 --> 00:48:44,850 They're gonna spend a lot of money on the hill 1152 00:48:44,850 --> 00:48:46,470 and they want comfort, and they want food, 1153 00:48:46,470 --> 00:48:47,790 and they wanna enjoy themselves. 1154 00:48:47,790 --> 00:48:49,710 They're getting away for a couple of days. 1155 00:48:49,710 --> 00:48:53,370 So, it's they spend good money. 1156 00:48:53,370 --> 00:48:55,740 If the government were to ban shooting, 1157 00:48:55,740 --> 00:49:00,090 it's gonna really make our life a lot more difficult here. 1158 00:49:00,090 --> 00:49:02,220 But I feel like we are bringing back 1159 00:49:02,220 --> 00:49:05,259 that type of shooting lodge type place. 1160 00:49:05,259 --> 00:49:08,460 And to lose those sort of traditions 1161 00:49:08,460 --> 00:49:11,340 and to lose those places be a real shame. 1162 00:49:11,340 --> 00:49:13,650 But you're talking probably losing 1163 00:49:13,650 --> 00:49:17,280 30 to 40% of my revenue within the next year. 1164 00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:18,990 You know, people wanna see the wildlife. 1165 00:49:18,990 --> 00:49:22,440 They wanna see the rich biodiversity, 1166 00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:25,110 but what they're not realizing is the people on the ground, 1167 00:49:25,110 --> 00:49:27,840 They're the ones that are actually helping 1168 00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:29,460 the biodiversity here. 1169 00:49:29,460 --> 00:49:32,460 You know, these guys are the important conservationists. 1170 00:49:32,460 --> 00:49:34,950 You know, they're the ones that keep the wildlife 1171 00:49:34,950 --> 00:49:36,300 going here. 1172 00:49:36,300 --> 00:49:37,650 And you can drive along the roads 1173 00:49:37,650 --> 00:49:39,050 and the hillside, and lay-by, 1174 00:49:39,050 --> 00:49:43,140 are full of people in camper vans, parking for free, 1175 00:49:43,140 --> 00:49:46,143 and camping right next to the roadside for free. 1176 00:49:47,130 --> 00:49:50,040 You can replace it with other forms of tourism, 1177 00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:51,420 but will they provide the jobs? 1178 00:49:51,420 --> 00:49:53,233 And that's the million dollar question. 1179 00:49:59,670 --> 00:50:02,400 The Isle of Muck is the home to Gallanach Lodge, 1180 00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:04,980 a sporting estate born when a laird's daughter 1181 00:50:04,980 --> 00:50:07,830 sought a means to remain on her island home, 1182 00:50:07,830 --> 00:50:09,300 where the aristocratic model 1183 00:50:09,300 --> 00:50:11,550 favored her older brother's family. 1184 00:50:11,550 --> 00:50:13,080 Beyond summer tourism, 1185 00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:16,410 the sporting estate model extended the tourism season 1186 00:50:16,410 --> 00:50:18,570 from September through January, 1187 00:50:18,570 --> 00:50:21,090 generating income for 10 families 1188 00:50:21,090 --> 00:50:24,210 and preserving a way of life on the island. 1189 00:50:24,210 --> 00:50:27,360 All right folks, we're gonna redraw this morning. 1190 00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:29,176 So, we're numbering eight, right to left. 1191 00:50:29,176 --> 00:50:30,145 With that look, I'll wait. 1192 00:50:30,145 --> 00:50:32,963 You gonna come back. I'll come back to you. 1193 00:50:32,963 --> 00:50:34,650 I always get what's left. 1194 00:50:34,650 --> 00:50:36,300 Numbering right to left, 1195 00:50:36,300 --> 00:50:38,820 we'll move up two pins each drive please. 1196 00:50:38,820 --> 00:50:41,785 I'm gonna shoot three drives this morning. 1197 00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:48,120 The island economy is largely based around farming, 1198 00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:50,580 tourism, and fishing. 1199 00:50:50,580 --> 00:50:54,480 And what we offer, I guess, is a sort of sporting tourism 1200 00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:57,360 from red stag stocking, Billy goat stocking 1201 00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:59,520 on the Isle of Rum behind us here. 1202 00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:01,230 We're spending somewhere in the region 1203 00:51:01,230 --> 00:51:04,890 of about 70 to 90,000 pounds a year just on boat charters 1204 00:51:04,890 --> 00:51:07,830 to either bring people from the mainland out to the island 1205 00:51:07,830 --> 00:51:10,277 or to bring people from between Muck and Rum here. 1206 00:51:10,277 --> 00:51:12,330 We are also using a local boat 1207 00:51:12,330 --> 00:51:15,120 to extract the deer off the island as well. 1208 00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:17,160 The number of guests we bring onto the island 1209 00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:19,920 is obviously directly related to the number of deer 1210 00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:20,753 we're shooting. 1211 00:51:20,753 --> 00:51:21,630 So the more deer we shoot, 1212 00:51:21,630 --> 00:51:23,700 the more people we bring onto the island, 1213 00:51:23,700 --> 00:51:25,830 which has a knock on effect to Rums economy, 1214 00:51:25,830 --> 00:51:27,540 to the local economy there. 1215 00:51:27,540 --> 00:51:30,150 Without the hunting season, we couldn't really survive here. 1216 00:51:30,150 --> 00:51:31,949 We need the hunting in the winter months 1217 00:51:31,949 --> 00:51:34,500 to get through the year. 1218 00:51:34,500 --> 00:51:38,310 So, we fish predominantly lobster and langoustine 1219 00:51:38,310 --> 00:51:40,980 close into the shore, around about the island, 1220 00:51:40,980 --> 00:51:44,010 and sell as much as we can locally. 1221 00:51:44,010 --> 00:51:45,330 Until we opening the lodge 1222 00:51:45,330 --> 00:51:47,400 and having guests all through the winter, 1223 00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:50,100 we now have a mark to have local seafood and stuff 1224 00:51:50,100 --> 00:51:50,933 on the menu. 1225 00:51:50,933 --> 00:51:53,040 The thing what a lot of people don't realize 1226 00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:54,780 it's not just the shooting. 1227 00:51:54,780 --> 00:51:58,050 It's all the other businesses that are connected to that. 1228 00:51:58,050 --> 00:52:00,210 So, there's B&B's on the mainland. 1229 00:52:00,210 --> 00:52:01,500 There's the ferry transport. 1230 00:52:01,500 --> 00:52:02,880 It's kind of the wider impact 1231 00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:04,500 that people don't kind of see for here, 1232 00:52:04,500 --> 00:52:06,420 especially it seeing the people getting pulled in 1233 00:52:06,420 --> 00:52:09,510 to help clean the lodge and all the other things. 1234 00:52:09,510 --> 00:52:12,600 All those little things, all those jobs were just, 1235 00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:16,080 and that would impact probably 2,000 of the families 1236 00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:17,220 on the island. 1237 00:52:17,220 --> 00:52:19,590 I think out of something like 1,200 applicants, 1238 00:52:19,590 --> 00:52:22,260 we were chosen to come and run the tea room. 1239 00:52:22,260 --> 00:52:24,660 And this is now coming into the end of our third year. 1240 00:52:24,660 --> 00:52:26,794 And also we get the shoot lunches here. 1241 00:52:26,794 --> 00:52:29,400 So, we have the tourist in the summer. 1242 00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:33,510 Come near September, again, it slows right down. 1243 00:52:33,510 --> 00:52:35,820 And if the lodge weren't doing shoot parties 1244 00:52:35,820 --> 00:52:38,193 through the winter up till January, 1245 00:52:39,810 --> 00:52:42,270 then we would probably close down. 1246 00:52:42,270 --> 00:52:43,740 When I was first here, 1247 00:52:43,740 --> 00:52:47,640 we had power in the morning 1248 00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:48,777 and then off all day. 1249 00:52:48,777 --> 00:52:52,350 And power at the nighttime till about half past 11. 1250 00:52:52,350 --> 00:52:54,783 No internet apart from satellite internet. 1251 00:52:55,860 --> 00:52:58,680 So, it has made a heck of a difference with Toby 1252 00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:01,260 setting up the hotel definitely. 1253 00:53:01,260 --> 00:53:04,290 They've turned it into like a global phenomenon. 1254 00:53:04,290 --> 00:53:06,000 We were getting people from Sweden. 1255 00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:08,970 We're getting people from South Africa. 1256 00:53:08,970 --> 00:53:11,140 We're getting people from all over Europe 1257 00:53:12,002 --> 00:53:13,980 and further afield. 1258 00:53:13,980 --> 00:53:15,660 There's a lot of management that's going on 1259 00:53:15,660 --> 00:53:16,560 to do with the shooting. 1260 00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:19,020 That we've seen lots of other birds coming 1261 00:53:19,020 --> 00:53:20,760 and you know, for the children 1262 00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:22,770 they're growing up interested in. 1263 00:53:22,770 --> 00:53:25,980 Even things like when they're waiting to go beating, 1264 00:53:25,980 --> 00:53:27,780 you know, Hughes always looking at the heather 1265 00:53:27,780 --> 00:53:29,640 and seeing what kind of different grouses there are. 1266 00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:30,473 Do you know what I mean? 1267 00:53:30,473 --> 00:53:33,030 They're kind of, it's another way of looking 1268 00:53:33,030 --> 00:53:35,640 at all the things around us, I suppose. 1269 00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:37,020 So, there's the financial impact, 1270 00:53:37,020 --> 00:53:40,260 but there's also all the other management things 1271 00:53:40,260 --> 00:53:42,600 that are going on that have a positive impact. 1272 00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:45,210 It's a different connection to the environment around them. 1273 00:53:45,210 --> 00:53:46,890 So, they're already connected through farming, 1274 00:53:46,890 --> 00:53:48,754 but this is a different angle. 1275 00:53:58,725 --> 00:54:00,210 So, all these stag heads 1276 00:54:00,210 --> 00:54:03,667 are ones that have called with the girls. 1277 00:54:03,667 --> 00:54:05,430 You know, I've got four daughters now 1278 00:54:05,430 --> 00:54:09,210 and they've all been kind of involved and immersed 1279 00:54:09,210 --> 00:54:11,010 in the world that I'm in. 1280 00:54:11,010 --> 00:54:12,597 When we're out with the stags 1281 00:54:12,597 --> 00:54:15,174 and the hinds in each season, 1282 00:54:15,174 --> 00:54:18,270 I enjoy seeing them in between the trees. 1283 00:54:18,270 --> 00:54:20,940 So each bit of more of a challenge to spy 1284 00:54:20,940 --> 00:54:23,610 and glass across to them. 1285 00:54:23,610 --> 00:54:25,140 The reason why I want to be a gamekeeper 1286 00:54:25,140 --> 00:54:29,160 is I like being outside and like amongst the environment. 1287 00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:31,917 Well, when I go to school, they just say to me 1288 00:54:31,917 --> 00:54:34,867 and my sister, they go, 1289 00:54:34,867 --> 00:54:37,380 "Why does your dad shoot so many deer?" 1290 00:54:37,380 --> 00:54:40,357 And I do, I just put them right and just say, 1291 00:54:40,357 --> 00:54:41,910 "My dad shoots them in season. 1292 00:54:41,910 --> 00:54:43,710 He doesn't shoot them outta season. 1293 00:54:43,710 --> 00:54:45,120 He has to color for each year." 1294 00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:47,160 And they go, "Oh, but that's so cruel. 1295 00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:49,350 Your dad just kills animals for the sake of it." 1296 00:54:49,350 --> 00:54:52,530 And he doesn't, he has to manage them. 1297 00:54:52,530 --> 00:54:54,270 Yeah, I couldn't really see him doing anything else. 1298 00:54:54,270 --> 00:54:55,350 I've been with him for 30 years 1299 00:54:55,350 --> 00:54:58,740 and it's all he's ever done and it's all he wants to do. 1300 00:54:58,740 --> 00:55:01,530 He has returning guests year after year after year 1301 00:55:01,530 --> 00:55:02,940 that come back. 1302 00:55:02,940 --> 00:55:04,680 It's not just always for the sport, 1303 00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:07,170 it can just be to spend a day in the hotel 1304 00:55:07,170 --> 00:55:08,520 or a couple of nights in the hotel 1305 00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:09,930 and you know, they'll get in touch with Scott 1306 00:55:09,930 --> 00:55:11,130 'cause they've become friends. 1307 00:55:11,130 --> 00:55:13,140 The people that sort of, 1308 00:55:13,140 --> 00:55:14,520 they've got a place in your heart, you know. 1309 00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:17,430 You're out all day on the hill with them or maybe longer. 1310 00:55:17,430 --> 00:55:19,110 The girls have quite a bit of stick at school 1311 00:55:19,110 --> 00:55:20,250 off certain people. 1312 00:55:20,250 --> 00:55:23,550 And it's hard really sometimes to take it in 1313 00:55:23,550 --> 00:55:27,625 because these children at school that take it out on them 1314 00:55:27,625 --> 00:55:29,580 have also got dads that are crofters 1315 00:55:29,580 --> 00:55:32,040 and dads that work the land themselves. 1316 00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:34,410 So, they'll have a go at the girls 1317 00:55:34,410 --> 00:55:35,467 and just say, you know, 1318 00:55:35,467 --> 00:55:38,187 "All your dad does is go out and kill foxes," you know? 1319 00:55:38,187 --> 00:55:39,210 And it's hard for the girls 1320 00:55:39,210 --> 00:55:40,410 because they've been brought up with it. 1321 00:55:40,410 --> 00:55:41,490 They've seen it. 1322 00:55:41,490 --> 00:55:44,580 They go out with Scott onto the hill 1323 00:55:44,580 --> 00:55:47,052 and they'll be there with him, you know, 1324 00:55:47,052 --> 00:55:50,042 while Scott uses a firearm to, you know, 1325 00:55:50,042 --> 00:55:51,630 to call the beast. 1326 00:55:51,630 --> 00:55:54,750 So, they'll see it from as soon as it's shot 1327 00:55:54,750 --> 00:55:55,980 to actually being cooked 1328 00:55:55,980 --> 00:55:58,530 and put on a plate in front of them and they eat it. 1329 00:55:58,530 --> 00:56:00,623 They love it because they know where it comes from. 1330 00:56:00,623 --> 00:56:03,360 There's so many kids at their school that don't even know 1331 00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:05,190 where a piece of meat comes from. 1332 00:56:05,190 --> 00:56:06,090 They're just so used to seeing it 1333 00:56:06,090 --> 00:56:08,240 in a cellophane wrapper at the supermarket. 1334 00:56:09,420 --> 00:56:10,353 A wee boy look. 1335 00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:12,353 We staggy. 1336 00:56:20,310 --> 00:56:23,010 Ah, clan, the Mackenzie's intrinsically linked 1337 00:56:23,010 --> 00:56:24,000 to the red deer. 1338 00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:25,560 So, I've always thought it's nice for us 1339 00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:27,537 to say something like that 1340 00:56:27,537 --> 00:56:29,580 and it's not a done thing in the Gaelic world. 1341 00:56:29,580 --> 00:56:31,442 There's never any, you know, 1342 00:56:31,442 --> 00:56:35,011 it's our little link to our ancestors past. 1343 00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:39,240 The red deer or the red stag 1344 00:56:39,240 --> 00:56:42,420 is the most iconic symbol of the Scottish Highlands. 1345 00:56:42,420 --> 00:56:44,970 But today, they're under the gun. 1346 00:56:44,970 --> 00:56:47,760 Red deer in Scotland have become a dilemma. 1347 00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:49,950 Favorited for stalking by sportsmen 1348 00:56:49,950 --> 00:56:51,960 and sightings of the monarch of the glen 1349 00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:53,790 are desired by tourist. 1350 00:56:53,790 --> 00:56:55,890 Those within the rewilding effort 1351 00:56:55,890 --> 00:56:59,100 have put crosshairs on this iconic species. 1352 00:56:59,100 --> 00:57:02,070 Red deer are woody browsers during the winter months 1353 00:57:02,070 --> 00:57:03,930 and can cause significant damage 1354 00:57:03,930 --> 00:57:06,450 if they're concentrated onto an area 1355 00:57:06,450 --> 00:57:08,760 filled with young tree plantings. 1356 00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:11,940 No one really knows how many deer exist on the land 1357 00:57:11,940 --> 00:57:14,040 nor can they agree on how many 1358 00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:15,810 or how few need to be culled 1359 00:57:15,810 --> 00:57:18,420 to allow for healthy ecosystems. 1360 00:57:18,420 --> 00:57:20,880 Each side has put up their battle lines, 1361 00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:23,790 but the government has budgeted 30 million pounds 1362 00:57:23,790 --> 00:57:27,390 to hire contractors to kill deer over the next year. 1363 00:57:27,390 --> 00:57:30,540 So, we have a situation where the grazing pressure, 1364 00:57:30,540 --> 00:57:34,050 primarily through red deer and sheep, 1365 00:57:34,050 --> 00:57:38,640 is preventing the regeneration of the woodland habitats. 1366 00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:41,040 And not only woodland, but habitats in general. 1367 00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:45,180 And it's keeping them in a suppressed, degraded situation. 1368 00:57:45,180 --> 00:57:48,150 I think it's often portrayed that red deer 1369 00:57:48,150 --> 00:57:51,240 are naturally a woodland animal. 1370 00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:54,090 I think that helps push 1371 00:57:54,090 --> 00:57:56,940 this kind of narrative 1372 00:57:56,940 --> 00:57:59,100 of huge woodland expansion. 1373 00:57:59,100 --> 00:58:01,680 Deer are a woodland animal. 1374 00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:03,722 They're not meant to live in the open hill. 1375 00:58:03,722 --> 00:58:06,540 And give them a wood, they'll head into the wood. 1376 00:58:06,540 --> 00:58:08,130 That's where they wanna live. 1377 00:58:08,130 --> 00:58:11,310 So, the big challenge today is to get numbers down 1378 00:58:11,310 --> 00:58:13,950 to more sustainable levels, so that plant communities 1379 00:58:13,950 --> 00:58:16,890 and other wildlife communities can flourish. 1380 00:58:16,890 --> 00:58:19,500 But also to get them back into their native habitat, 1381 00:58:19,500 --> 00:58:20,610 which is woodland. 1382 00:58:20,610 --> 00:58:22,230 There's been no trees over most of the highlands 1383 00:58:22,230 --> 00:58:23,730 for 2,000 years. 1384 00:58:23,730 --> 00:58:24,990 If the deer survive that, 1385 00:58:24,990 --> 00:58:26,550 you can't tell me they're woodland animals 1386 00:58:26,550 --> 00:58:28,500 because they're not living in woodlands. 1387 00:58:28,500 --> 00:58:32,520 But if you are in a wet, cold, stormy climate and snowy 1388 00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:34,620 and you want shelter, where the first place you go to 1389 00:58:34,620 --> 00:58:35,730 is trees. 1390 00:58:35,730 --> 00:58:38,400 They have a wide ecological altitude. 1391 00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:41,088 Like wolves, in fact, they can be woodland or open ground. 1392 00:58:41,088 --> 00:58:43,290 And if they're eating more nutritious vegetation, 1393 00:58:43,290 --> 00:58:45,630 they're bound to be bigger and more robust, 1394 00:58:45,630 --> 00:58:48,630 especially if you've keep the populations very low 1395 00:58:48,630 --> 00:58:50,250 by shooting or hunting. 1396 00:58:50,250 --> 00:58:52,080 So, deer management is one of these things 1397 00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:54,660 where people view it as shooting deer. 1398 00:58:54,660 --> 00:58:55,973 For about six months of the year, 1399 00:58:55,973 --> 00:58:58,110 that is part and parcel of what we do. 1400 00:58:58,110 --> 00:59:00,510 It's not a matter of having a kind of key number of deer 1401 00:59:00,510 --> 00:59:02,040 that we're aiming for the area. 1402 00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:04,350 It's we're looking at impact that they're having 1403 00:59:04,350 --> 00:59:06,750 and making our management choices based on that. 1404 00:59:06,750 --> 00:59:07,800 There are parts of the highlands 1405 00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:09,413 where, yeah, potentially you've got too many deer. 1406 00:59:09,413 --> 00:59:10,720 There's also large parts of the highlands 1407 00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:12,450 where you don't have enough deer. 1408 00:59:12,450 --> 00:59:14,430 There's bits and pieces of historic Gaelic culture 1409 00:59:14,430 --> 00:59:16,710 that were here, the original sort of indigenous people 1410 00:59:16,710 --> 00:59:17,543 that were here. 1411 00:59:17,543 --> 00:59:19,470 Deer gave them food, and clothing, and heat, 1412 00:59:19,470 --> 00:59:21,690 and like all sorts of valuable 1413 00:59:21,690 --> 00:59:22,740 between human beings and deer 1414 00:59:22,740 --> 00:59:24,480 going way back to the stone age. 1415 00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:28,200 The problem, if indeed you perceive it to be a problem, 1416 00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:30,330 is the deer, the number of deer. 1417 00:59:30,330 --> 00:59:32,070 So, the way that the Scottish landscape 1418 00:59:32,070 --> 00:59:35,283 has been managed for the last 150, 200 years, 1419 00:59:36,150 --> 00:59:37,980 generally speaking to paraphrase, 1420 00:59:37,980 --> 00:59:40,170 is to maximize the number of deer. 1421 00:59:40,170 --> 00:59:43,350 So if your objective is sport shooting, 1422 00:59:43,350 --> 00:59:46,830 then you may wish to have higher numbers of deer. 1423 00:59:46,830 --> 00:59:51,830 If your objective is to let nature have its freedom 1424 00:59:52,110 --> 00:59:53,790 and for lots of species to benefit, 1425 00:59:53,790 --> 00:59:55,110 rather than just a single species, 1426 00:59:55,110 --> 00:59:58,500 then the chances are you'll want deer to lower density. 1427 00:59:58,500 --> 01:00:00,810 You know, the ideal density for an area like this 1428 01:00:00,810 --> 01:00:02,100 to get the trees to grow 1429 01:00:02,100 --> 01:00:03,960 is probably two deer per square kilometer. 1430 01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:05,460 That's what you're gonna aim for. 1431 01:00:05,460 --> 01:00:07,920 To manage two deer per square kilometer, 1432 01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:10,620 you are hitting them really hard all the time. 1433 01:00:10,620 --> 01:00:14,730 If deer stalking is part of your income for the estate 1434 01:00:14,730 --> 01:00:18,690 and, you know, stags are of a big income 1435 01:00:18,690 --> 01:00:22,710 and support many jobs, then you that you want to lessen 1436 01:00:22,710 --> 01:00:25,500 the winter mortality that you have. 1437 01:00:25,500 --> 01:00:28,230 So, those estates that feed stags are feeding the stags 1438 01:00:28,230 --> 01:00:30,180 to help 'em see through the winter. 1439 01:00:30,180 --> 01:00:31,950 It could be argued that we should just leave them 1440 01:00:31,950 --> 01:00:33,870 and what happens is what happens, 1441 01:00:33,870 --> 01:00:37,860 but it's a business like any other. 1442 01:00:37,860 --> 01:00:41,400 You want stags for next year, you've got to look after 'em. 1443 01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:43,530 You've got to take care of your animals. 1444 01:00:43,530 --> 01:00:44,363 We're now in a phase 1445 01:00:44,363 --> 01:00:47,100 where we're seeing how we manage red deer, 1446 01:00:47,100 --> 01:00:49,860 not as just an environmental issue, 1447 01:00:49,860 --> 01:00:53,010 not just as a an issue to do a quarry species, 1448 01:00:53,010 --> 01:00:56,083 but as a component of a wider ecosystem 1449 01:00:56,083 --> 01:00:58,650 and that's a positive development. 1450 01:00:58,650 --> 01:01:01,140 You put manure in your garden or farmers did 1451 01:01:01,140 --> 01:01:03,120 because it's rich in nutrients. 1452 01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:05,640 Now if you think on the wide landscape scale, 1453 01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:07,753 then all the deer and even the sheep 1454 01:01:07,753 --> 01:01:10,770 are actually breaking down the plant material 1455 01:01:10,770 --> 01:01:14,340 excreting in that dung and that's fertilizing the ground. 1456 01:01:14,340 --> 01:01:18,180 If you reduce deer numbers or graze the animals generally, 1457 01:01:18,180 --> 01:01:20,730 you reduce fertility of the whole landscape. 1458 01:01:20,730 --> 01:01:24,000 On lots of the property that we have, it is red deer. 1459 01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:25,440 That's the problem. 1460 01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:26,820 It's not roe deer. It's not hares. 1461 01:01:26,820 --> 01:01:28,020 It's red deer. 1462 01:01:28,020 --> 01:01:30,938 There are areas in our ground too where sheep of the problem 1463 01:01:30,938 --> 01:01:33,300 and unless we manage the sheep 1464 01:01:33,300 --> 01:01:36,060 and work well with the crafters whose sheep they are, 1465 01:01:36,060 --> 01:01:38,430 then we're not, just killing the deer by itself 1466 01:01:38,430 --> 01:01:39,540 isn't gonna solve the problem. 1467 01:01:39,540 --> 01:01:41,580 We're gotta manage the sheep issue as well. 1468 01:01:41,580 --> 01:01:43,950 We know the deer are really, really important. 1469 01:01:43,950 --> 01:01:44,820 I mean, look at them. 1470 01:01:44,820 --> 01:01:45,660 Every bottle of whiskey 1471 01:01:45,660 --> 01:01:48,540 that gets sold to America each year's gotta stag on it. 1472 01:01:48,540 --> 01:01:50,130 Of course, like this is our national brand. 1473 01:01:50,130 --> 01:01:51,270 This is what we're about. 1474 01:01:51,270 --> 01:01:54,270 It sets all kinds of strange questions running 1475 01:01:54,270 --> 01:01:55,103 when we start to say, 1476 01:01:55,103 --> 01:01:56,670 "Actually, we hate deer now. 1477 01:01:56,670 --> 01:01:59,130 We don't want deer. These spaces aren't for deer." 1478 01:01:59,130 --> 01:02:03,063 Deer are part of us and in large part, we're part of them. 1479 01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:05,730 The intense management of red deer 1480 01:02:05,730 --> 01:02:08,130 has spurred entrepreneurs to develop businesses 1481 01:02:08,130 --> 01:02:11,340 capitalizing on providing sustainable healthy meat 1482 01:02:11,340 --> 01:02:13,980 to the broader public throughout the UK. 1483 01:02:13,980 --> 01:02:15,060 Animals being shot, 1484 01:02:15,060 --> 01:02:17,460 they go from being a deer to being venison 1485 01:02:17,460 --> 01:02:18,840 and of course, categorize 1486 01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:21,600 into variety of different specifications 1487 01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:23,130 and depending on the species. 1488 01:02:23,130 --> 01:02:23,963 So, we will supply 1489 01:02:23,963 --> 01:02:28,410 around two and a half thousand stores nationwide daily 1490 01:02:28,410 --> 01:02:32,010 with specifications such as burgers, sausages, steaks 1491 01:02:32,010 --> 01:02:33,930 ready for you to cook. 1492 01:02:33,930 --> 01:02:34,980 This is a wild animal. 1493 01:02:34,980 --> 01:02:37,680 This is a product that is as God intended 1494 01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:39,750 is out there for a reason. 1495 01:02:39,750 --> 01:02:43,650 And we are making it available to you 1496 01:02:43,650 --> 01:02:45,300 who is looking for an alternative, 1497 01:02:45,300 --> 01:02:47,970 but perhaps also looking for alternative 1498 01:02:47,970 --> 01:02:50,190 from a healthier point of view. 1499 01:02:50,190 --> 01:02:53,760 It is proven to be a healthier protein 1500 01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:56,430 than most other proteins that we can get our hands on. 1501 01:02:56,430 --> 01:02:59,760 And that food product must be looked after 1502 01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:02,850 just as well, if not even better, 1503 01:03:02,850 --> 01:03:06,105 than a cow produced in the field going through an abattoir. 1504 01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:16,140 The specter of conflict looms in Scotland, 1505 01:03:16,140 --> 01:03:18,450 particularly on the Assynt Peninsula, 1506 01:03:18,450 --> 01:03:21,240 where the John Muir Trust finds itself at odds 1507 01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:24,900 with neighbors to managing the deer population. 1508 01:03:24,900 --> 01:03:27,960 Are humans across the globe predisposed 1509 01:03:27,960 --> 01:03:31,860 to manage our natural assets in a way that's sustainable? 1510 01:03:31,860 --> 01:03:34,170 You know, sadly, I think there's too many examples 1511 01:03:34,170 --> 01:03:36,970 of where we're not predisposed to manage it sustainably. 1512 01:03:37,980 --> 01:03:41,220 So, the Assynt Peninsula is about 18,000 hectares. 1513 01:03:41,220 --> 01:03:44,070 So, that's about 45,000 acres. 1514 01:03:44,070 --> 01:03:47,610 About 2,000 hectares of that is woodland 1515 01:03:47,610 --> 01:03:49,440 and most of that is native woodland. 1516 01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:50,820 And the majority of the landscape 1517 01:03:50,820 --> 01:03:53,610 is dominated by blanket bogue, and wet heath, 1518 01:03:53,610 --> 01:03:55,110 and monte, and habitats. 1519 01:03:55,110 --> 01:03:58,260 And you know, it doesn't really sustain very many animals. 1520 01:03:58,260 --> 01:04:01,680 One of the sources of income for the trust 1521 01:04:01,680 --> 01:04:05,340 was stalking, 1522 01:04:05,340 --> 01:04:10,340 where people would come in and pay to stalk stags. 1523 01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:15,300 That in turn, allowed people to come in 1524 01:04:15,300 --> 01:04:20,070 and spend money locally 1525 01:04:20,070 --> 01:04:24,000 for accommodation, buying things from shops. 1526 01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:25,860 And it still remains very important 1527 01:04:25,860 --> 01:04:29,340 that we have a sufficiency of deer 1528 01:04:29,340 --> 01:04:32,220 to allow us to continue doing that. 1529 01:04:32,220 --> 01:04:33,480 As far as I understand, 1530 01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:38,480 there was a change in the direction of the John Muir Trust 1531 01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:42,250 in relation to the number of deer 1532 01:04:43,320 --> 01:04:46,590 which they would tolerate on Quinag. 1533 01:04:46,590 --> 01:04:48,660 They pulled outta the deer management group, 1534 01:04:48,660 --> 01:04:51,813 so I understand because they didn't like the way 1535 01:04:51,813 --> 01:04:56,813 that the rest of the people in the group were behaving. 1536 01:04:57,240 --> 01:04:59,370 For the last 15 years, 1537 01:04:59,370 --> 01:05:03,270 John Muir Trust have seriously misrepresented 1538 01:05:03,270 --> 01:05:06,480 the state of the environment here on the Assynt Peninsula. 1539 01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:08,430 The collaborative approach wasn't working 1540 01:05:08,430 --> 01:05:10,140 and the deer numbers were actually going up. 1541 01:05:10,140 --> 01:05:12,420 The group had agreed to reduce the numbers 1542 01:05:12,420 --> 01:05:13,500 and that was the target, 1543 01:05:13,500 --> 01:05:14,580 but the numbers weren't going down. 1544 01:05:14,580 --> 01:05:15,990 The numbers were going the other way. 1545 01:05:15,990 --> 01:05:18,330 It's not about deer per square kilometer. 1546 01:05:18,330 --> 01:05:21,150 So if you take in the top of those mountains, 1547 01:05:21,150 --> 01:05:22,920 deer can't eat stone. 1548 01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:24,990 So, you have to exclude all that area 1549 01:05:24,990 --> 01:05:27,480 as part of your per square kilometer figure. 1550 01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:29,610 And then, what you realize is actually the deer density 1551 01:05:29,610 --> 01:05:30,900 is probably much higher. 1552 01:05:30,900 --> 01:05:32,550 They're trying to campaign 1553 01:05:32,550 --> 01:05:35,403 to change the way we manage deer in Scotland. 1554 01:05:35,403 --> 01:05:38,733 And they do that by creating a noise. 1555 01:05:40,020 --> 01:05:42,450 And they think that at the creating a noise, 1556 01:05:42,450 --> 01:05:44,853 then politicians will be on their side. 1557 01:05:45,900 --> 01:05:47,940 The concern seems to be of red deer 1558 01:05:47,940 --> 01:05:49,110 eating young trees, 1559 01:05:49,110 --> 01:05:52,560 which may or may not exist on the Quinag Estate. 1560 01:05:52,560 --> 01:05:56,190 But on the neighboring Ardvar Estate, keeper Michael Ross 1561 01:05:56,190 --> 01:05:59,793 shows us how trees are coexisting and flourishing with deer. 1562 01:06:00,780 --> 01:06:03,780 There's a good number of deer on the Ardvar Estate 1563 01:06:03,780 --> 01:06:05,760 that live in here because of the shelter. 1564 01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:06,660 And now, we've got this, 1565 01:06:06,660 --> 01:06:09,450 but we've got this throughout the estate. 1566 01:06:09,450 --> 01:06:11,820 You can see how the woodland works here. 1567 01:06:11,820 --> 01:06:13,370 Once you get in the bogey grin, 1568 01:06:14,340 --> 01:06:15,173 it starts to peat right. 1569 01:06:15,173 --> 01:06:16,110 And you can see that in there 1570 01:06:16,110 --> 01:06:18,000 once it gets the boat mill, ridge there too. 1571 01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:19,290 Yeah. 1572 01:06:19,290 --> 01:06:22,320 So, deer and forest can coexist? 1573 01:06:22,320 --> 01:06:23,190 At a loose hill, yeah. 1574 01:06:23,190 --> 01:06:24,030 They're a forest animal. 1575 01:06:24,030 --> 01:06:26,640 They have every right to be in here. 1576 01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:29,490 You mentioned something though that some of the stags, 1577 01:06:29,490 --> 01:06:34,490 those royal stags that you'd see year after year after year, 1578 01:06:34,620 --> 01:06:35,970 you haven't seen them anymore. 1579 01:06:35,970 --> 01:06:37,620 Well, stags are bad on Ardvar. 1580 01:06:37,620 --> 01:06:39,220 They didn't come back this year. 1581 01:06:40,153 --> 01:06:42,000 It's not something you get many off up here. 1582 01:06:42,000 --> 01:06:43,950 We don't have many royals really. 1583 01:06:43,950 --> 01:06:46,530 So, there's a few of them, was a few of them on Ardvar, 1584 01:06:46,530 --> 01:06:50,100 but we seem to be missing them, not coming back, 1585 01:06:50,100 --> 01:06:51,690 after the rat in October. 1586 01:06:51,690 --> 01:06:53,550 They usually come back to Ardvar for the winter 1587 01:06:53,550 --> 01:06:55,080 and they haven't returned. 1588 01:06:55,080 --> 01:06:58,320 So, they've obviously been caught up in this. 1589 01:06:58,320 --> 01:06:59,790 So, you think they were taken out 1590 01:06:59,790 --> 01:07:01,140 by the John Muir Trust. 1591 01:07:01,140 --> 01:07:03,300 Caught, they would've been caught up in the... 1592 01:07:03,300 --> 01:07:06,060 If you're missing one or two, fair enough, that happens, 1593 01:07:06,060 --> 01:07:07,630 but not when you're missing 1594 01:07:10,680 --> 01:07:12,120 quite a few numbers. 1595 01:07:12,120 --> 01:07:15,840 Us for ourselves, you cull the deer to look after the deer. 1596 01:07:15,840 --> 01:07:17,280 So, you're gonna take out the worst ones. 1597 01:07:17,280 --> 01:07:19,260 But it seems to be across the board, 1598 01:07:19,260 --> 01:07:21,654 they just shoot what's in front of them 1599 01:07:21,654 --> 01:07:23,508 and then, sickening. 1600 01:07:28,050 --> 01:07:30,300 After withdrawing from the Deer Working Group, 1601 01:07:30,300 --> 01:07:32,490 the John Muir Trust filed for a permit 1602 01:07:32,490 --> 01:07:35,280 with Nature Scot to conduct night shooting. 1603 01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:37,440 Amidst tensions with the neighbors, 1604 01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:40,290 Balharry expressed a drastic stance 1605 01:07:40,290 --> 01:07:43,470 stating he would kill every deer he could. 1606 01:07:43,470 --> 01:07:45,540 The John Muir Trust are not stalking. 1607 01:07:45,540 --> 01:07:46,710 They're not stalking the deer. 1608 01:07:46,710 --> 01:07:48,150 They're killing the deer. 1609 01:07:48,150 --> 01:07:50,850 Because as anyone who lives in this part of the world knows, 1610 01:07:50,850 --> 01:07:55,171 it's very, very easy to shoot deer at night. 1611 01:07:55,171 --> 01:07:58,500 They don't run when there are bright lights shone on them. 1612 01:07:58,500 --> 01:08:00,420 Generally, they stand still. 1613 01:08:00,420 --> 01:08:02,610 What has made people very angry of late 1614 01:08:02,610 --> 01:08:05,050 is that there are reports of animals 1615 01:08:06,810 --> 01:08:09,670 being found outside of Quinag 1616 01:08:10,800 --> 01:08:12,960 having been shot but not killed. 1617 01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:16,050 In the dark, if you hit but don't kill, 1618 01:08:16,050 --> 01:08:18,420 it's very difficult to track an animal. 1619 01:08:18,420 --> 01:08:19,740 One of the two stalkers 1620 01:08:19,740 --> 01:08:21,870 who is doing the nighttime shooting 1621 01:08:21,870 --> 01:08:26,190 is the chief executive officer of JMT himself, 1622 01:08:26,190 --> 01:08:27,023 Mr. Balharry. 1623 01:08:27,023 --> 01:08:27,856 Now, you would think 1624 01:08:27,856 --> 01:08:30,720 that the role of a chief executive officer 1625 01:08:30,720 --> 01:08:33,720 is quite an important one in a business 1626 01:08:33,720 --> 01:08:35,610 as big as the John Muir Trust, 1627 01:08:35,610 --> 01:08:40,200 but the fact that he can spend hours off his life 1628 01:08:40,200 --> 01:08:43,110 driving from where he lives south of here, 1629 01:08:43,110 --> 01:08:45,270 a couple of hours in the middle of winter 1630 01:08:45,270 --> 01:08:50,270 to come up and shoot deer, not stop deer, but shoot deer, 1631 01:08:50,520 --> 01:08:54,990 seems to me that there's a, there may be a problem with him 1632 01:08:54,990 --> 01:08:57,543 as well as a problem with Nature Scot. 1633 01:08:58,530 --> 01:09:01,950 We are what we thought the Scottish government 1634 01:09:01,950 --> 01:09:03,600 would like us to be. 1635 01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:05,970 In relation to deer in particular, 1636 01:09:05,970 --> 01:09:10,110 they seem, in a strange way, hell bent on destroying us. 1637 01:09:10,110 --> 01:09:12,630 The sporting estates roundabout are anxious. 1638 01:09:12,630 --> 01:09:14,587 We've gotta work that situation with them to say, 1639 01:09:14,587 --> 01:09:17,640 "Look, you know, our intent is to kill more deer 1640 01:09:17,640 --> 01:09:19,290 and we will," but we're trying to work with them 1641 01:09:19,290 --> 01:09:22,470 to find a solution to the deer that are crossing the road. 1642 01:09:22,470 --> 01:09:24,750 So, we're aiming to get down to a density 1643 01:09:24,750 --> 01:09:27,480 of about sort of two to four deer per square kilometer 1644 01:09:27,480 --> 01:09:28,530 across the estate. 1645 01:09:28,530 --> 01:09:31,950 But what is the total number of deer though? 1646 01:09:31,950 --> 01:09:32,783 Just now? 1647 01:09:33,630 --> 01:09:34,590 Before now, 1648 01:09:34,590 --> 01:09:36,990 I mean, you guys shot, you know how many deer you shot. 1649 01:09:36,990 --> 01:09:39,000 I mean you have to report that to the government. 1650 01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:40,137 Yeah, no, I do. So I'm saying- 1651 01:09:40,137 --> 01:09:41,940 So, how many deer did you guys shoot? 1652 01:09:41,940 --> 01:09:43,878 Well, that's what I'm saying it's about a hundred. 1653 01:09:43,878 --> 01:09:45,930 And so, we manage lots of estates. 1654 01:09:45,930 --> 01:09:48,570 I don't carry the exact numbers round in my head. 1655 01:09:48,570 --> 01:09:50,420 I could get them for you in a second. 1656 01:09:54,301 --> 01:09:56,280 Less than 150, 1657 01:09:56,280 --> 01:09:58,533 but I mean the numbers is a, 1658 01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:03,030 it's to debate the numbers 1659 01:10:03,030 --> 01:10:04,953 is to miss the point entirely. 1660 01:10:05,790 --> 01:10:08,010 It's about getting the habitat 1661 01:10:08,010 --> 01:10:10,230 and getting the trees to grow. 1662 01:10:10,230 --> 01:10:12,210 So, whatever numbers of deer need to be culled 1663 01:10:12,210 --> 01:10:14,874 to get the trees to grow, that's what we'll do. 1664 01:10:14,874 --> 01:10:17,340 A hundred, less than 150 were taken. 1665 01:10:17,340 --> 01:10:19,770 Did you take all the deer off of the estate 1666 01:10:19,770 --> 01:10:24,210 or you know, 50%, 20%, 10%? 1667 01:10:24,210 --> 01:10:25,043 - Most of - I'm just 1668 01:10:25,043 --> 01:10:26,430 trying to get some sort of idea 1669 01:10:26,430 --> 01:10:27,630 of what really was there. 1670 01:10:27,630 --> 01:10:30,783 What propagated you guys to get these permits? 1671 01:10:32,340 --> 01:10:33,270 What was the motivation? 1672 01:10:33,270 --> 01:10:36,120 I know it's to get deer densities down, I understand that, 1673 01:10:36,120 --> 01:10:39,007 but there had to be something that triggers like, 1674 01:10:39,007 --> 01:10:42,990 "Hey, we're seeing X amount of deer here we need to remove." 1675 01:10:42,990 --> 01:10:45,180 And how do you determine how many deer 1676 01:10:45,180 --> 01:10:46,937 you need to remove there at Quinag? 1677 01:10:48,128 --> 01:10:48,961 Um, 1678 01:10:51,390 --> 01:10:54,210 so you get the authorizations 1679 01:10:54,210 --> 01:10:56,160 for shooting deer outta season. 1680 01:10:56,160 --> 01:11:00,037 Come on the back of an argument that says, 1681 01:11:00,037 --> 01:11:02,640 "Is it necessary to prevent damage?" 1682 01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:06,090 Damage to what? Damage to trees that are growing. 1683 01:11:06,090 --> 01:11:09,840 If you control deer in the seasons, then that's fine. 1684 01:11:09,840 --> 01:11:12,360 You can prevent the damage in season, 1685 01:11:12,360 --> 01:11:14,820 but then the new growth will simply get browsed off 1686 01:11:14,820 --> 01:11:18,180 in the wintertime, unless you continue to shoot the deer. 1687 01:11:18,180 --> 01:11:19,500 So that's it, that's the logic 1688 01:11:19,500 --> 01:11:20,730 for getting an out season shooting. 1689 01:11:20,730 --> 01:11:23,490 It means that you are unable to protect your habitats, 1690 01:11:23,490 --> 01:11:24,960 because there are deer on the ground 1691 01:11:24,960 --> 01:11:27,030 in the out of season period. 1692 01:11:27,030 --> 01:11:29,010 The deer that you did harvest, 1693 01:11:29,010 --> 01:11:30,750 did you guys leave the carcasses on the hill 1694 01:11:30,750 --> 01:11:32,490 or were they sold? 1695 01:11:32,490 --> 01:11:34,530 Majority of them were taken off the hill. 1696 01:11:34,530 --> 01:11:36,705 Actually leaving carcasses on the hill 1697 01:11:36,705 --> 01:11:37,920 is quite a good thing to do. 1698 01:11:37,920 --> 01:11:40,410 Rather than them being left as a result of death 1699 01:11:40,410 --> 01:11:42,693 by starvation, or malnutrition, 1700 01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:45,840 or just inability to access shelter. 1701 01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:47,640 These ones are humanely shot and then left. 1702 01:11:47,640 --> 01:11:52,380 And, you know, other animals can then benefit 1703 01:11:52,380 --> 01:11:53,649 from the carcasses. 1704 01:11:54,482 --> 01:11:56,850 Scottish law allows for hostile buyouts 1705 01:11:56,850 --> 01:11:59,250 by the community of neighboring landowners, 1706 01:11:59,250 --> 01:12:01,920 if the landowner in question is running an estate 1707 01:12:01,920 --> 01:12:03,663 to the detriment of its neighbors. 1708 01:12:04,530 --> 01:12:07,290 It is possible to mount 1709 01:12:07,290 --> 01:12:11,370 what would be a hostile buyout of that estate 1710 01:12:11,370 --> 01:12:14,130 simply in order to eliminate the social problem, 1711 01:12:14,130 --> 01:12:15,390 which they're causing. 1712 01:12:15,390 --> 01:12:18,210 But I think that there are enough local people 1713 01:12:18,210 --> 01:12:20,460 so enraged at what's been going on 1714 01:12:20,460 --> 01:12:22,770 that I don't think it would be very difficult 1715 01:12:22,770 --> 01:12:26,430 to form such a community group. 1716 01:12:26,430 --> 01:12:28,650 David, the Assynt Crofters' Trust 1717 01:12:28,650 --> 01:12:30,690 regards the deer as an asset, 1718 01:12:30,690 --> 01:12:34,140 utilizing them for food, stalking jobs, 1719 01:12:34,140 --> 01:12:37,200 and promoting tourism as the tourists need lodging 1720 01:12:37,200 --> 01:12:39,120 and meals on the peninsula. 1721 01:12:39,120 --> 01:12:41,520 The Assynt Crofters' Trust is a kind of a peculiar model. 1722 01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:43,710 It was, as you say, one of the first ones, 1723 01:12:43,710 --> 01:12:45,900 but it's not exactly a community ownership model. 1724 01:12:45,900 --> 01:12:48,480 It's a group of crofters 1725 01:12:48,480 --> 01:12:51,840 who own the landlord's interest in their land. 1726 01:12:51,840 --> 01:12:54,240 And for them to exercise 1727 01:12:54,240 --> 01:12:56,400 or for that bit of legislation to be exercised, 1728 01:12:56,400 --> 01:12:58,260 it would have to be the community. 1729 01:12:58,260 --> 01:13:00,210 And, you know, ideally if the community 1730 01:13:00,210 --> 01:13:03,030 were able to manage in perpetuity that area of land 1731 01:13:03,030 --> 01:13:04,410 for its natural assets, 1732 01:13:04,410 --> 01:13:07,110 that would be a phenomenal outcome to aim for. 1733 01:13:07,110 --> 01:13:09,000 I'm reading in the paper, they're discussing 1734 01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:11,490 enacting the clause and the law. 1735 01:13:11,490 --> 01:13:13,170 So, how do you respond? 1736 01:13:13,170 --> 01:13:14,720 Well, so it's fine. 1737 01:13:14,720 --> 01:13:15,777 So the first thing we would sort of say 1738 01:13:15,777 --> 01:13:17,940 is, well, let's speak to the community 1739 01:13:17,940 --> 01:13:20,190 and let's see what their land use objectives are. 1740 01:13:20,190 --> 01:13:21,180 What it boils down to 1741 01:13:21,180 --> 01:13:23,940 is that you've got one group of private interests, 1742 01:13:23,940 --> 01:13:26,370 the landlord's interest in a crofting estate, 1743 01:13:26,370 --> 01:13:28,950 wanting at the moment to buy the asset 1744 01:13:28,950 --> 01:13:30,870 of another private individual. 1745 01:13:30,870 --> 01:13:34,260 So, there's two property rights that are at stake there 1746 01:13:34,260 --> 01:13:36,060 and neither of those property rights 1747 01:13:36,060 --> 01:13:38,400 represents a geographic community. 1748 01:13:38,400 --> 01:13:41,670 It can work if there's a genuine community thing there 1749 01:13:41,670 --> 01:13:43,290 that shows it's detrimental, 1750 01:13:43,290 --> 01:13:46,350 but I think it can only work if the owners wanted to sell. 1751 01:13:46,350 --> 01:13:49,200 It's not, you can't sort of force the sale with it. 1752 01:13:49,200 --> 01:13:53,220 People assumed that legislation would only be used 1753 01:13:53,220 --> 01:13:55,083 against private owners. 1754 01:13:56,490 --> 01:13:59,190 No one envisaged that that legislation 1755 01:13:59,190 --> 01:14:01,590 would be used against an environmental group. 1756 01:14:01,590 --> 01:14:04,050 It's a nuclear option in lots of ways. 1757 01:14:09,600 --> 01:14:12,480 I'm in Strathglass in the Scottish Highlands 1758 01:14:12,480 --> 01:14:15,060 and all around me is wildfire. 1759 01:14:15,060 --> 01:14:17,640 This wildfire burned over the last seven or eight days 1760 01:14:17,640 --> 01:14:19,230 and it is the largest wildfire 1761 01:14:19,230 --> 01:14:21,540 to ever occur in the United Kingdom. 1762 01:14:21,540 --> 01:14:23,520 It started about three miles over there, 1763 01:14:23,520 --> 01:14:25,110 three and a half miles. 1764 01:14:25,110 --> 01:14:27,565 And it burned initially towards Cannich, 1765 01:14:27,565 --> 01:14:29,850 and then it kind of settled a wee bit 1766 01:14:29,850 --> 01:14:31,440 or at least it seemed that way. 1767 01:14:31,440 --> 01:14:33,537 And then, yeah, then it started coming towards us 1768 01:14:33,537 --> 01:14:36,000 and the day it hit here was the day it just, 1769 01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:38,190 it was tearing all over the place. 1770 01:14:38,190 --> 01:14:39,930 You know, the helicopter was on site, 1771 01:14:39,930 --> 01:14:43,530 the Forestry Commission, RSPB, the Fire Service, 1772 01:14:43,530 --> 01:14:44,970 everyone was trying their absolute best, 1773 01:14:44,970 --> 01:14:46,800 but they couldn't shoot water at it from in front. 1774 01:14:46,800 --> 01:14:48,660 It was coming too fast, too hot. 1775 01:14:48,660 --> 01:14:49,880 You know, it was along the top of this 1776 01:14:49,880 --> 01:14:52,214 or the side of this ridge here. 1777 01:14:52,214 --> 01:14:55,290 That was the time where the gamekeepers turned up 1778 01:14:55,290 --> 01:14:58,500 and started lighting fires this way. 1779 01:14:58,500 --> 01:15:00,390 And the two fires sort of came together 1780 01:15:00,390 --> 01:15:02,100 and they completely turned it. 1781 01:15:02,100 --> 01:15:05,760 In fact, you can see the furthest west 1782 01:15:05,760 --> 01:15:08,193 and extent of the fire over there on my ridge. 1783 01:15:09,690 --> 01:15:12,090 I mean they literally made it do 90 degrees. 1784 01:15:12,090 --> 01:15:13,500 It was kind of like the weirdest thing, you know. 1785 01:15:13,500 --> 01:15:15,840 Here we were firing water at absolutely everything. 1786 01:15:15,840 --> 01:15:17,820 Another dude stand up and set fire to stuff 1787 01:15:17,820 --> 01:15:19,650 and that's actually what saved it 1788 01:15:19,650 --> 01:15:21,090 from being an awful lot worse. 1789 01:15:21,090 --> 01:15:22,860 I'm not saying the helicopters wouldn't have caught it, 1790 01:15:22,860 --> 01:15:26,250 but it was just the fire could have just forked, 1791 01:15:26,250 --> 01:15:28,110 could have gone in all sorts of different directions 1792 01:15:28,110 --> 01:15:30,150 and none of the people on the ground 1793 01:15:30,150 --> 01:15:30,990 could do anything about it. 1794 01:15:30,990 --> 01:15:32,310 They couldn't get near it. 1795 01:15:32,310 --> 01:15:34,950 Ultimately, the gamekeepers just controlled. 1796 01:15:34,950 --> 01:15:36,120 They sort of corralled it 1797 01:15:36,120 --> 01:15:38,340 and just stopped it from spreading. 1798 01:15:38,340 --> 01:15:42,150 That skill, experience, knowledge, 1799 01:15:42,150 --> 01:15:44,970 specialist stuff, the gamekeepers 1800 01:15:44,970 --> 01:15:47,580 had a significant positive impact on the outcome. 1801 01:15:47,580 --> 01:15:48,990 No question about it. 1802 01:15:48,990 --> 01:15:51,730 I mean, this fire happened 1803 01:15:52,920 --> 01:15:57,420 in large part on ground that was vegetated heavily. 1804 01:15:57,420 --> 01:15:58,830 You know, we're a non-sporting estate. 1805 01:15:58,830 --> 01:15:59,970 We don't burn. 1806 01:15:59,970 --> 01:16:01,830 I mean the temptation, I guess, from people 1807 01:16:01,830 --> 01:16:04,470 who are opposed to conservation, rewilding, 1808 01:16:04,470 --> 01:16:05,730 whatever you wanna call it 1809 01:16:05,730 --> 01:16:09,030 is to say that we made life worse for ourselves 1810 01:16:09,030 --> 01:16:11,190 by having all this ground cover. 1811 01:16:11,190 --> 01:16:12,090 There's no getting away from it. 1812 01:16:12,090 --> 01:16:14,123 We're increasing the fuel burden on the ground. 1813 01:16:14,123 --> 01:16:16,620 There's no way to get away from that. 1814 01:16:16,620 --> 01:16:17,910 That is happening. 1815 01:16:17,910 --> 01:16:20,970 There is more to burn on a rewild landscape 1816 01:16:20,970 --> 01:16:23,490 than there is on on the opposite. 1817 01:16:23,490 --> 01:16:27,090 I think it's a fact we're gonna have more fires. 1818 01:16:27,090 --> 01:16:29,160 That's a fact. We are not prepared. 1819 01:16:29,160 --> 01:16:31,770 We are fundamentally unprepared at the moment, 1820 01:16:31,770 --> 01:16:33,840 unless you're on a sporting estate, for example, 1821 01:16:33,840 --> 01:16:36,870 which manages a mosaic of burnt habitat 1822 01:16:36,870 --> 01:16:38,460 for different purposes. 1823 01:16:38,460 --> 01:16:40,770 To me, it's bringing in an expert. 1824 01:16:40,770 --> 01:16:43,110 Somebody like the keepers who are here fighting this fire, 1825 01:16:43,110 --> 01:16:43,943 bring them in and say, 1826 01:16:43,943 --> 01:16:47,760 "What can I do to limit my chances 1827 01:16:47,760 --> 01:16:49,688 of experiencing this again?" 1828 01:16:51,930 --> 01:16:53,700 Intensive grouse moor management 1829 01:16:53,700 --> 01:16:55,650 backed by scientific evidence 1830 01:16:55,650 --> 01:16:58,170 yields positive outcomes for nature. 1831 01:16:58,170 --> 01:17:01,590 However, running such operations incurs annual costs 1832 01:17:01,590 --> 01:17:03,720 in the hundreds of thousands of pounds, 1833 01:17:03,720 --> 01:17:06,810 making ownership of privilege for the wealthy. 1834 01:17:06,810 --> 01:17:09,690 Simply put, conservation requires funding. 1835 01:17:09,690 --> 01:17:12,660 Dee Ward of Rottal Estate stands out as a landowner 1836 01:17:12,660 --> 01:17:15,990 who embraces common sense solutions, managing the lands 1837 01:17:15,990 --> 01:17:19,404 to benefit nature while permitting limited ground shooting 1838 01:17:23,730 --> 01:17:25,650 Come to my estate, 1839 01:17:25,650 --> 01:17:27,480 let's see how much wildlife we have. 1840 01:17:27,480 --> 01:17:30,570 Let's assess all these things. Let's go to another place. 1841 01:17:30,570 --> 01:17:33,000 You pick a state of your choice in the uplands 1842 01:17:33,000 --> 01:17:34,740 that does the same thing that I do. 1843 01:17:34,740 --> 01:17:37,260 It's upland. It's not a lowlander estate. 1844 01:17:37,260 --> 01:17:38,520 It's not full of trees. 1845 01:17:38,520 --> 01:17:40,170 It's upland. 1846 01:17:40,170 --> 01:17:41,457 And let's see what wildlife they have 1847 01:17:41,457 --> 01:17:44,730 and let's have a reason debate about it because I bet, 1848 01:17:44,730 --> 01:17:47,850 and I'll say it now, I bet that I will have more wildlife 1849 01:17:47,850 --> 01:17:49,680 than any other estate you could show me 1850 01:17:49,680 --> 01:17:51,690 that doesn't shoot grouse. 1851 01:17:51,690 --> 01:17:54,330 I think these things should be based on facts, 1852 01:17:54,330 --> 01:17:56,100 not on emotion. 1853 01:17:56,100 --> 01:17:57,210 All these gullies 1854 01:17:57,210 --> 01:17:59,730 where the rivers or the the streams run, 1855 01:17:59,730 --> 01:18:03,810 the watercourse run, have very few trees in them. 1856 01:18:03,810 --> 01:18:07,650 Down below, we've got trees planted along the watercourse. 1857 01:18:07,650 --> 01:18:10,470 The aim is that they will get big and shade the water. 1858 01:18:10,470 --> 01:18:13,110 And one of the aims is that we improve the water quality 1859 01:18:13,110 --> 01:18:16,740 by keeping it cool and we keep the river health high 1860 01:18:16,740 --> 01:18:18,780 'cause it doesn't really affect the grouse, 1861 01:18:18,780 --> 01:18:20,970 but it does improve the water quality. 1862 01:18:20,970 --> 01:18:22,200 And to be honest, when I got here, 1863 01:18:22,200 --> 01:18:23,670 I didn't know that was a thing to do, 1864 01:18:23,670 --> 01:18:25,623 but you learn as you experience things. 1865 01:18:26,550 --> 01:18:29,730 We are trying to create this balance between the uplands 1866 01:18:29,730 --> 01:18:31,710 and where that merges into the lower ground, 1867 01:18:31,710 --> 01:18:33,630 where the rivers are at the bottom of the valley. 1868 01:18:33,630 --> 01:18:36,450 You've got the bottom where you have the pasture. 1869 01:18:36,450 --> 01:18:37,283 You have wetland. 1870 01:18:37,283 --> 01:18:39,960 You have good habitat for waders, things like that. 1871 01:18:39,960 --> 01:18:41,700 We then have a sort of middle section, 1872 01:18:41,700 --> 01:18:45,570 which is native tree planting and some natural regeneration. 1873 01:18:45,570 --> 01:18:50,027 And then the top is moorland, heather, grasses, and so on. 1874 01:18:50,027 --> 01:18:52,800 And the peat is like a big sponge basically. 1875 01:18:52,800 --> 01:18:53,633 So, what we're trying to do 1876 01:18:53,633 --> 01:18:56,190 is restore that peat with a view that, 1877 01:18:56,190 --> 01:18:58,320 one, it's good for wildlife and biodiversity. 1878 01:18:58,320 --> 01:19:00,720 Two, it stops carbon emitting into the atmosphere. 1879 01:19:00,720 --> 01:19:02,460 But three and most importantly to me 1880 01:19:02,460 --> 01:19:05,220 is it captures that water as a big sponge 1881 01:19:05,220 --> 01:19:07,680 and it sits there rather than create flooding 1882 01:19:07,680 --> 01:19:08,847 'cause as soon as we create flooding, 1883 01:19:08,847 --> 01:19:11,494 we damage our ecosystem. 1884 01:19:14,670 --> 01:19:16,530 For Alex Jenkins and his family, 1885 01:19:16,530 --> 01:19:19,770 his dream job as the head keeper at Edinglassie 1886 01:19:19,770 --> 01:19:21,346 has come to an end. 1887 01:19:24,390 --> 01:19:25,657 Let me give you a boozy. 1888 01:19:28,373 --> 01:19:29,206 There we go. 1889 01:19:29,206 --> 01:19:30,330 Thanks, Pam. Thank you. 1890 01:19:30,330 --> 01:19:32,070 It's been a pleasure, Alex. 1891 01:19:32,070 --> 01:19:33,990 I wish you all the best in everything you do. 1892 01:19:33,990 --> 01:19:35,280 Yeah, thank you. 1893 01:19:35,280 --> 01:19:36,234 I'm going to cry. 1894 01:19:37,770 --> 01:19:40,360 I hate saying goodbye to people I know. 1895 01:19:41,433 --> 01:19:44,130 I worry about the viability of the industry 1896 01:19:44,130 --> 01:19:47,490 if we keep getting attacked the way we're being attacked. 1897 01:19:47,490 --> 01:19:50,070 It's the pressure of constantly having to fight 1898 01:19:50,070 --> 01:19:53,520 for our survival that I have found quite tiresome. 1899 01:19:53,520 --> 01:19:55,950 I've been quite politically involved 1900 01:19:55,950 --> 01:19:58,260 certainly for the last 10 years of my career. 1901 01:19:58,260 --> 01:20:01,470 And every turn, we're having a fight for our way of life. 1902 01:20:01,470 --> 01:20:04,623 I just, I feel it's almost like death by a thousand cuts. 1903 01:20:05,576 --> 01:20:08,160 I've two young children, both are primary age. 1904 01:20:08,160 --> 01:20:10,200 As a job going to the hill every day 1905 01:20:10,200 --> 01:20:14,220 and working with of wildlife, I mean it's so rewarding 1906 01:20:14,220 --> 01:20:17,040 and it's been a fantastic place for my kids to grow up. 1907 01:20:17,040 --> 01:20:20,010 It impacts on my family life quite a lot. 1908 01:20:20,010 --> 01:20:21,810 You know, there's constant political lobbying, 1909 01:20:21,810 --> 01:20:23,760 just fighting for our future. 1910 01:20:23,760 --> 01:20:25,680 And I think it's certainly a factor 1911 01:20:25,680 --> 01:20:27,090 in the decision that I've made 1912 01:20:27,090 --> 01:20:29,580 as while my kids are young, 1913 01:20:29,580 --> 01:20:30,540 I'd certainly like the opportunity 1914 01:20:30,540 --> 01:20:31,560 to spend more time with 'em 1915 01:20:31,560 --> 01:20:34,500 and not have that constant worry 1916 01:20:34,500 --> 01:20:37,290 of where we will be in 10 years time, 1917 01:20:37,290 --> 01:20:38,970 if I'm still gonna have a job. 1918 01:20:38,970 --> 01:20:41,760 Leaving Edinglassie is gonna be really quite hard. 1919 01:20:41,760 --> 01:20:43,968 We've really loved our time here. 1920 01:20:43,968 --> 01:20:46,590 We haven't taken this decision lightly. 1921 01:20:46,590 --> 01:20:50,250 I mean this has been Alex's whole working career, 1922 01:20:50,250 --> 01:20:52,410 has been based around gamekeeping. 1923 01:20:52,410 --> 01:20:54,570 The job has changed for Alex over the years 1924 01:20:54,570 --> 01:20:56,160 in such a short time. 1925 01:20:56,160 --> 01:20:59,410 There's been so many changes to the keeper in world 1926 01:21:00,660 --> 01:21:02,820 and it just gets tougher and tougher. 1927 01:21:02,820 --> 01:21:05,250 It takes a lot of time away from the family 1928 01:21:05,250 --> 01:21:08,820 and we've realized over the last year or two 1929 01:21:08,820 --> 01:21:11,142 that life's too short. 1930 01:21:11,142 --> 01:21:12,900 The countryside is what it is today 1931 01:21:12,900 --> 01:21:13,950 because of the keepers, 1932 01:21:13,950 --> 01:21:17,790 the way people enjoy taking a tour over the hills, 1933 01:21:17,790 --> 01:21:20,940 enjoying, you know, the heather and the patches. 1934 01:21:20,940 --> 01:21:24,480 And they won't see that when the keepers are gone 1935 01:21:24,480 --> 01:21:27,630 'cause there's no one there to maintain and manage it. 1936 01:21:27,630 --> 01:21:29,190 I think Alex has left industry 1937 01:21:29,190 --> 01:21:31,950 because like a lot of the rest of us, 1938 01:21:31,950 --> 01:21:34,290 we've been gradually getting worn down 1939 01:21:34,290 --> 01:21:39,250 by legislation, rules, regulations 1940 01:21:41,220 --> 01:21:43,730 just scrutinized every little thing we do. 1941 01:21:43,730 --> 01:21:45,213 It just becomes too much. 1942 01:21:46,514 --> 01:21:49,800 I mean, you're almost demonized for being a keeper. 1943 01:21:49,800 --> 01:21:52,860 Unfortunately, we do have situations 1944 01:21:52,860 --> 01:21:54,333 where there are suicides. 1945 01:21:55,620 --> 01:22:00,210 There is more than one a week in the country 1946 01:22:00,210 --> 01:22:02,943 who take their own lives in rural jobs, 1947 01:22:03,900 --> 01:22:05,848 more than one a week. 1948 01:22:05,848 --> 01:22:08,850 The straw that broke the camel's back for me 1949 01:22:08,850 --> 01:22:12,480 would've been the way the ban on shooting mountain hares 1950 01:22:12,480 --> 01:22:14,970 was pushed through as a Stage 3 amendment 1951 01:22:14,970 --> 01:22:16,410 through the parliament. 1952 01:22:16,410 --> 01:22:19,080 And I just thought to myself, you know, 1953 01:22:19,080 --> 01:22:21,030 there's them in a heartbeat. 1954 01:22:21,030 --> 01:22:23,310 And I mean, the whole thing probably took 15 minutes 1955 01:22:23,310 --> 01:22:25,440 in parliament, but it just legislated 1956 01:22:25,440 --> 01:22:30,440 half of my sporting cult for the year just vanished. 1957 01:22:31,453 --> 01:22:34,620 I mean, it was quite an inconsequential decision to be MSPs 1958 01:22:34,620 --> 01:22:35,760 who made that decision, 1959 01:22:35,760 --> 01:22:37,593 but to us up here, it was massive. 1960 01:22:38,910 --> 01:22:39,877 And the way it went through, I thought, 1961 01:22:39,877 --> 01:22:41,880 "Well if they've done this once, 1962 01:22:41,880 --> 01:22:43,980 they've got a mechanism to do it again. 1963 01:22:43,980 --> 01:22:46,440 and there's some big fights to be fought." 1964 01:22:46,440 --> 01:22:48,660 All the votes in Scotland are in the Central Belt. 1965 01:22:48,660 --> 01:22:49,920 I mean, it's a widely known fact. 1966 01:22:49,920 --> 01:22:51,360 Most of the voting population 1967 01:22:51,360 --> 01:22:52,960 is between Moscow and Edinburgh. 1968 01:22:53,804 --> 01:22:55,879 There's not enough of us involved in this industry. 1969 01:22:55,879 --> 01:22:56,790 There's not enough of us living 1970 01:22:56,790 --> 01:23:00,471 in these remote clans to really matter. 1971 01:23:00,471 --> 01:23:02,580 But the Scottish government just doesn't seem to care. 1972 01:23:02,580 --> 01:23:04,500 I mean, that's increasingly obvious 1973 01:23:04,500 --> 01:23:06,780 with every new bit of legislation that comes through, 1974 01:23:06,780 --> 01:23:09,630 what disregard they have for what happens in these hills. 1975 01:23:10,629 --> 01:23:11,619 Yeah. 1976 01:23:13,770 --> 01:23:15,720 Change is something that human beings 1977 01:23:15,720 --> 01:23:18,060 don't necessarily welcome easily. 1978 01:23:18,060 --> 01:23:20,700 We're not comfortable with it, but change is inevitable. 1979 01:23:20,700 --> 01:23:22,768 And I think in some cases, it's desirable too. 1980 01:23:22,768 --> 01:23:25,320 So, it is true to say 1981 01:23:25,320 --> 01:23:28,800 that what you might term traditional land uses, 1982 01:23:28,800 --> 01:23:31,260 and by that I mean sheep farming, 1983 01:23:31,260 --> 01:23:34,830 grouse shooting, upland deer stalking, et cetera, 1984 01:23:34,830 --> 01:23:35,730 they are under pressure. 1985 01:23:35,730 --> 01:23:37,260 They are under scrutiny. 1986 01:23:37,260 --> 01:23:40,680 And in some cases, they are being phased out. 1987 01:23:40,680 --> 01:23:41,970 I don't believe 1988 01:23:41,970 --> 01:23:45,870 and I see absolutely no evidence for this notion 1989 01:23:45,870 --> 01:23:50,130 that rewilding automatically leads to de-peopling. 1990 01:23:50,130 --> 01:23:52,290 There's no evidence of that whatsoever. 1991 01:23:52,290 --> 01:23:55,200 So if you go, for example, up to Glenfeshie, 1992 01:23:55,200 --> 01:23:57,060 which is just a few miles from here, 1993 01:23:57,060 --> 01:24:00,210 there are more people living and working in that landscape 1994 01:24:00,210 --> 01:24:02,580 than there have been for the last 20, 30 years. 1995 01:24:02,580 --> 01:24:05,850 Still the same dear stalkers, land managers, 1996 01:24:05,850 --> 01:24:07,650 but you've also got fencing contractors. 1997 01:24:07,650 --> 01:24:11,010 You've got peatland restoration experts. 1998 01:24:11,010 --> 01:24:14,010 You've got scientists, researchers, tourism operators, 1999 01:24:14,010 --> 01:24:15,450 hospitality providers. 2000 01:24:15,450 --> 01:24:18,540 All of these businesses in one way or another 2001 01:24:18,540 --> 01:24:20,370 are a reflection of the landscape 2002 01:24:20,370 --> 01:24:22,620 that is in recovery or rewilding, if you like. 2003 01:24:22,620 --> 01:24:24,090 I understand the fear, 2004 01:24:24,090 --> 01:24:27,690 but I don't think there's any serious foundation in it. 2005 01:24:27,690 --> 01:24:30,660 I can somewhat relate to the sadness 2006 01:24:30,660 --> 01:24:33,240 and the anguish of how those individuals may feel. 2007 01:24:33,240 --> 01:24:35,880 'cause my background is I'm from Zimbabwe 2008 01:24:35,880 --> 01:24:38,670 and my father was a farmer out there 2009 01:24:38,670 --> 01:24:42,900 and a lot of the white farmers were removed from their land. 2010 01:24:42,900 --> 01:24:45,540 And it's not something that I would want the people here 2011 01:24:45,540 --> 01:24:47,003 to ever experience 2012 01:25:01,580 --> 01:25:03,160 Currently where we are 2013 01:25:04,410 --> 01:25:09,120 and it's pretty much agreed that we give nature 2014 01:25:09,120 --> 01:25:11,910 a foothold, a boost up. 2015 01:25:11,910 --> 01:25:15,840 And we allow nature to kind of then kind of work 2016 01:25:15,840 --> 01:25:19,863 with what we're doing, because we are part of the landscape. 2017 01:25:21,150 --> 01:25:24,300 There's no denying that we are part of it 2018 01:25:24,300 --> 01:25:27,510 from year to where we are now. 2019 01:25:27,510 --> 01:25:30,330 And it's our involvement has gone up and down 2020 01:25:30,330 --> 01:25:31,522 over thousands of years 2021 01:25:31,522 --> 01:25:34,290 with the landscapes that we live in. 2022 01:25:34,290 --> 01:25:37,950 So yeah, we mustn't go down the road 2023 01:25:37,950 --> 01:25:40,165 of having another highland clearance, if you like. 2024 01:25:44,957 --> 01:25:48,240 In the heart of Scotland, a silent battle rages 2025 01:25:48,240 --> 01:25:51,270 and the very essence of the highlands is under threat. 2026 01:25:51,270 --> 01:25:53,850 As rural guardians, keepers, gillies, 2027 01:25:53,850 --> 01:25:58,320 and stalkers are edged out of their ancestral lands. 2028 01:25:58,320 --> 01:26:00,540 Conservation is wisdom in action. 2029 01:26:00,540 --> 01:26:04,320 Keepers of the unsung heroes, custodians of the land, 2030 01:26:04,320 --> 01:26:06,480 but it's time for a new chapter 2031 01:26:06,480 --> 01:26:09,240 where their knowledge protects not just the game 2032 01:26:09,240 --> 01:26:11,400 but entire ecosystems. 2033 01:26:11,400 --> 01:26:13,260 Rewilders and land stewards, 2034 01:26:13,260 --> 01:26:15,540 those keepers seek the same end, 2035 01:26:15,540 --> 01:26:17,520 a thriving, vibrant landscape, 2036 01:26:17,520 --> 01:26:19,950 yet history's weight drags them apart. 2037 01:26:19,950 --> 01:26:22,950 It's a struggle reminiscent of the Highland Clearances, 2038 01:26:22,950 --> 01:26:26,070 a cultural genocide in slow motion. 2039 01:26:26,070 --> 01:26:28,530 What legacy will they leave for the future? 2040 01:26:28,530 --> 01:26:31,260 It's a question echoing through the glens, 2041 01:26:31,260 --> 01:26:32,789 waiting for an answer. 153599

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