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he was an outsider who became an icon of
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Irish ballads featuring Sinead O'Connor
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and Nick Cave some strong language night
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in the great hunger the life and songs
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of Shane MacGowan
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as I wandered down the long lonesome
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highway I made other people away the
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brokenhearted
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living on
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I don't think anyone writes better
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lyrics and shame ago I think well he is
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what Keith Richards would describe as a
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specialist she none I mean and you know
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the words or everything you know for him
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that's that's where he lives
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really the people love me as I go on my
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way they all have a story to tell Holly
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one left
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on the bow the water
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it's one of the few singers that we can
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say of in 1997 main that in a hundred
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years time people will still be singing
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and still be playing the songs of Shane
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MacGowan who else in Ireland even bottle
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can we say that about
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he's operating on two engines funny as
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Ford he's genius plan he's completely
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up imagine how much more genius
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he would be if he wasn't illusion so
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that's the main kind of feeling I left
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with her if somebody said to me what
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what would you say is that is that him
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I hope he doesn't smash himself entirely
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you know to me because because it is a
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very incredible beauty that he does have
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Oh
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so
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in the early 1980s Shane MacGowan and
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his band the poll seemed to have come
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from nowhere against the backdrop of the
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Fae charms of the New Romantics McGowan
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unleashed his anarchic drunken crew on a
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British public at a time when it was
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neither popular nor fashionable to be
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Irish in Britain McGowan fed his
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audience an uncompromising diet of Irish
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pub and rebel songs but it was his
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songwriting talent that made the Pokes
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one of the most popular bands of the
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1980s
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at this time McGowan's drinking and
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consumption of other chemicals with that
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of legend and the line between his own
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lifestyle and the drunks and
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down-and-outs of his songs had become
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blurred hero to the Irish in London
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McGowan's pump freshen of Irish music
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was way out of sync with the respectable
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face of Ireland in the nineteen eighties
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he was an embarrassment
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the drunken paddy reincarnated
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took a long time the respectable island
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to accept him as one of their own
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this is the extraordinary story of how a
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North London Punk transformed himself
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into one of Ireland's greatest living
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balladeers while threatening to destroy
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himself in the process
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Shane MacGowan was born on Christmas Day
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1957 on the banks of the river Shannon
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in rural Ireland
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is good
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work at you
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we spent the first six years of his life
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in kearney Commons in County Tipperary
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in this house
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just like sure
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Fotis house is a boys bein by singing
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war regard is harmed
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there was about soil people living here
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like sleep in three to evade night I
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usually used to sleep under thing over
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there that counts which is thinking more
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comfortable in sleeper and three no
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abate and the radio is nice too as well
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like when I was a kid there was no
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television in here was there was no
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running water there was electric light
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and and hard for the coke on there was
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no cooker I know the basic yeah I was
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Boise and beautiful you know it was the
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end of an era though I just happened to
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cash I'm glad I caught it you know the
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thing I remember most Botha family is
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the music that they every every weekend
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and sometimes in the middle of the week
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I mean we had us for the you had music
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you had dancing set dancing in the old
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kitchen floor and you had songs so he
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absorbed all that wonderful traditional
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Irish music and singing and dancing
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through his pores when he was at a very
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formative age you know and just had a
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tremendous influence on him you know and
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on his love of Irish music and on his
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desire really to do thing for Irish
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music as well are you read sing here
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you know and playing anything in dance
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and Friday Saturday and Sunday the door
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was up in Illinois and you know be a
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place to go for a session you know I
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mean it was a constant session was all
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weekend you know and I'll be stuck up on
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the table from the earliest I joke in
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remember and childhood saying what songs
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on you you know I I remember exactly my
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repertoire graduating straight crazy you
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know so long I didn't know first gig
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when I was straight you know
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I didn't have this sort of someone who's
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dropping our until they're 20 or
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something you know is always cursing
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like the Church in the Christian
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Brothers and and the small-mindedness
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and then gossip being in the side is
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Amanda brutai in and the OD odor bad
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things you can say about Irish sorry you
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know I write all I ever had was sir
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happy times this song is called Aisling
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Aisling is a woman's name but it's also
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the Irish Irish word for a dream and I
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was talking to Shane backstage in
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Finsbury Park some years ago and he told
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me about this lyric and he sent it over
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to me and I just started singing her
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look at how the bright new moon is
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rising above the land a black-and-gray
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listen to the rebel voice is called an
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AI unit Aida uberrimae the ant upstairs
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in the bed she's callin ye is he first
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secondly
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fed the pictures in the hallway but she
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damn bro loss to see
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let's the wooden the chicks the barley
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course the spared and course the plow I
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come to the years and new weeks and days
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and I wish to God the livers but you
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know
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redneck fun dreams he you still hunt
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make by Russ the Grendel see
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and the wind blows north and south to
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the east and to do less
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I'll be like the wind my love I will no
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no rest until I return today
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1 2 3 4 telegraph poles burn under coal
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black road the nauseous Boorstin in to
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mourn and give visitor up a year sweet
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pudgy
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the rain was lation the sun was rising
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the new wind was whipping through the
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tree the madness from the mountains
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crawl and when the tally first
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me or nationally this stupid the chicks
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the barrel the curse despair and cursed
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cloud
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I don't thirty years and weeks and days
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and the wish to garland it wasn't you
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know
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ferdi well in the Black Cat Island very
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well hi Ashley
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unlike for dreams you used to hum it by
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Russ tendency
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yay McGraw who calling this old ma
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moshling gal moshling gal mash them down
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good night my sweet black-haired dream
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woman I couldn't make a shrink
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my darlin
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unfair Plataea Shane MacGowan from pecan
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and County Tipperary but you know how to
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write them by Talia nice one in 1963
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McGowan and his family became a
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statistic in the massive wave of Irish
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immigration to Britain his father worked
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for the CNA department store and the
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family moved around a lot mainly in the
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Southeast of England it was very strange
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you know very strange in like on every
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sort of settle down felt it was anywhere
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alone I think it was a very sure my
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choice at first you know I mean but like
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I got I got I didn't enjoy I didn't
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enjoy my life which others you know I I
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always felt in a constant state it's
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Rama tell you the truth right because um
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because I always felt I came back here I
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let my breath out and over there was um
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I felt lonely you know you yes really
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really feel that it's a part of yourself
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that is missing like and you must be
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reunited with it that kind of thing
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I think a lot of the people who
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emigrated felt that it was a temporary
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arrangement they were going to guess
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something like say wealth jobs education
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whatever else and then they were going
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to come back there was very often no
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integration into English life mainstream
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English life from any of them they
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didn't register to vote they didn't
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participate in any sense
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very often didn't even apply for say
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council housing for which they would
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have been or to which they would have
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been entitled they were all the time in
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their own minds going home and they
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didn't want to take any further steps
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into life in England now for children
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growing up in that environment is
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basically saying look your real life is
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taking place elsewhere we move around a
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lot you know and but wherever I know you
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know I mean Jude Law said there was a
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lot of relatives and stuff for that and
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all living on hand but my parents were
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really unhappy going you know I mean I
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could tell my parents were really
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unhappy I was very unsettled long
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darling I never really settled in
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England you know anything the English
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people are great you know I love them
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and but the general atmosphere is very
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puritanical compared with our lenders
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that's a bit of saying isn't as you know
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it's a bit paradoxical really because
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they have all the right laws I think
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that you know the wrong application I
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mean we're the oldest people aren't for
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him in this that's her that's what makes
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us free people are thinking the way nine
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years ago I fell
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in love with a lady proud and fair
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they're so passionate were she and I we
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made fire in the air I loved her more
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than life itself she loved me just the
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same and it broke my heart to think we'd
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part if she ended the affair but I was
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brutal I was ignorant I was cruel I was
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brash I never gave a damn about the
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beauty that I smashed no say this star
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yet I found delight in making my love
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cry now I'd pray for a single kiss from
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her to be lashed and crucified and now I
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fear this lady fair can never more be
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mine long gone are nights in my
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only bet Oh suffering and crying and
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though I fear that through this life
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she'll call me only friend till I'm dead
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and buried in my grave my love will
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ever end
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Shane left school at 16 and spent most
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of his time drifting around Soho and
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Piccadilly he found casual work based
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around the two enduring loves of his
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life working as a barman and on a record
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store
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then in 1976 punk happened
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it was quite a violent year 976 we've
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been getting more violent since the
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early seventies and life and it's a pate
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in 1976 this fingers up tight music and
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things outside actually they're not I
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was at vacant nihilistic sort of thing
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they put crosses the way to arms well
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you know most people my age were feeling
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you know I mean
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I remember once he told me that he had
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only really ever been happy jun-hyung
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since his childhood and the happiness
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was somehow linked to the sense of
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energy and chaos and I think Punk give
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him that sense of belonging there was a
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saying you know no I mean there is like
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about a hundred Punk's in London you
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know I mean so I you know I you know if
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he saw another Punk you know it was like
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you know I immediately saw my contact
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was that the front of yielding so
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classic in the osci
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with this girl called Jane who is
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lighter in her mouth - and we were
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biting each other and then it got more
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outrageous and she brought the button
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stored cold and me up and she got me in
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here and your air blades a lot not only
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son this photographer took these
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father's you know I know you made the
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term abandoned it looked as if my heir
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had been he said in India it said my ear
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had been paid enough you know me but I
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had just been cut bait by the boat Shane
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certainly was was photographed a lot you
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had the front cover on signs and lying
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on his back I mean I feel in many ways
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that he was he became a victim of that
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image because a lot of his almost like
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you were only seen a very small
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percentage of who he was and and I can't
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help thinking that maybe he started to
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pursue that small part and lost a lot of
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the bigger parts
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the ethos of punk was DIY and everyone
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wants to start a band
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Shane MacGowan was no exception forming
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the nipple directors in 1978 he was
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great he was he had a great stage
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presence he was he did a lot of kind of
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drops to his knees he just had charisma
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he had a lot of star quality we went
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along expecting it to be a lot of fun
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you know Shane's band it didn't expect
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it to be so good what knocked me out was
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was the songs the songs were great
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you know the most famous song gabrielle
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was very melodic and I think he can
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trace back you can trace a lineage from
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gabrielle onwards of sort of bothered
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writing where he became the master of
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that really when no one else was doing
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it near these so it wasn't really Punk
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at all that sensibility was actually
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very refined however all right you know
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I've seen to write home about
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we're a good live bones you know
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when McGowan wound up the nips to think
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about creating his new act the Pogues
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the British charts were dominated by the
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synthesizer sounds of the New Romantics
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but that was a time where everything was
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really boring again it was like the tie
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line of New Romantics and all that night
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it was one that it was the year of the
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one and a guy on a synthesizer
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bags you know I mean
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you know having expected a clash to
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change the world
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and it all it only actually led to was
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our chance those of us who've been for
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the cleansing fire of punk-rock expected
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a little bit more I think I think that's
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what it seems to me that that's whether
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we're the Pogues idea was come from the
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only alternative was these world music
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bones you know I mean as either world
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music bones about plains South American
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music and African music you know meaning
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like the foot classes they ever been
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Africa was nothing your gate you know I
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mean like right I thought it says we've
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got our own indigenous ethnic farm music
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oh no oh
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back on our doorstep I think the great
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the great thing about the Pogues was
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they instead of coming up folk music
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like Steeleye span and purple convention
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with respect they came at it got old a
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bit by the lapels and threw it down the
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stairs
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nobody who never wouldn't never really
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gone it like a bunch of navvies if we're
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gonna use that price
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you know we've sort of like messed it
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around and put the put the put a power
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drill on it and see what came out and
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that's what the pokes did it was really
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exciting when you saw them it was really
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exciting it was like seeing the clash it
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was like going to a punky
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it was folk music she and particular was
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drawing on an Irish music that was
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populist and popular from a decade or so
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before this from probably 50s early 60s
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and and I am in town I'm killin a night
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I could be a star called behind the
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dollar why am I alone could be if you if
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you take the The Dubliners as the
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archetype with her they sang a lot of
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body dirty songs and they sang songs
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were drinking in excess hold behind the
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door where my yellow coat should be
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yeah
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malaria real fight but my diets are oniy
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true ones you know I mean the dirty so
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everyone I'm a big influence on as a
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kiddos minor when my own pipe could be
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well I called me when I said to her will
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you kindly tell to me who owned the pond
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the chair I am gonna be there's a sense
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of humor that runs through a very black
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sense of humor that runs through Irish
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music you know just anything bad that
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happens it's funny and they'll find a
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way to turn the phrase to make it funny
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what Shane did that was different was he
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didn't always do that he didn't always
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sugarcoat it he's just like sort of put
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it right in your face I was I know I
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personally was suddenly I suddenly got
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it I suddenly understood what that sense
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of humor in most of the Irish songs that
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I've heard was hiding and when he
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connected to his heritage you know
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something really really profound
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happening Camden party
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God a very rowdy kind of bosy life you
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know my tribe ordiance they all came out
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of the woodwork you know these people
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who had been nuts about Irish music for
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years some people from Irish families
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who who listen isn't wholly rare lives
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at home no I mean exact four on the
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jukebox in I suppose you know the span
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was a distinctively Aires band and
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Avery's band which couldn't have emerged
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in Ireland this was a London Irish pound
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I mean this was the brashness the
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aggression and the energy of muggle
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paints Fusiliers and the Poblana fraidy
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Nate
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the London air is felt and rightly so
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that they had been to some extent
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second-class citizens in the country
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that they lived in and also that they
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were a source of embarrassment to people
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in Ireland they were coated the the
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labourer and Paddy working on the
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railways and drunkenness and and others
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and somewhere that's true of course
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for people London Aries people she had
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magome was the first voice the first
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person that arose from with unknown to
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give to give defiant and poetic
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expression to a community which had
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never really felt able to proclaim
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itself over the next few years The
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Pogues released three commercially and
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critically successful albums the single
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most important thing that catapulted
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them out of a London Irish ghetto was
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the sheer quality of Shane MacGowan
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songwriting
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oh and I am
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I mean okay his voice is very Irish but
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the emotion that comes out is
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international
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I mean people all over the world relate
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to Shen stories
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that was looking
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when we go by label
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there was no
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I think the first one I learned was a
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pair of brown eyes and I loved the
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imagery of them it reminded me very much
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of em a grand a great great granduncle
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of mine who was blown up in the end of
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first world war and a couple years ago I
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was over in in Belgium and I found his
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name on the wall and that night I was
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playing at this big festival and I spoke
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about to all these Belgian and French
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people and German people and I signed
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the pair of brown eyes and it was just I
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felt the whole audience felt what I'd
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felt that day through shinsung
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oh I like to write about what's
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happening around the cars and what's the
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my own personal angst
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when I win
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for me what's happening around me
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this book is it's affecting what's going
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on inside me anyway you know this so
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they're not separable you know
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I love the time the actual songs are
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structured like little narratives and if
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you think of a great Pogues song like
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the old me and drag being a trainer one
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of the best songs he has ever written
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it's it's romantic but it's unflinching
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it's graphic it takes it doesn't it's
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not a song about as some of the old W
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songs would be like like I'll paint
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Fusiliers what would be about you know
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builders are people who built the roads
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and it's about rentboys you know it's
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about the flotsam and jetsam off of the
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exiled experience is about people lying
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and Soho and taking diners and getting
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drunk to get him through their life
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one evening as I was lying down in last
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I was picked off by the covers and
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kicked in the balls but suena metal
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doors at vine say I was baton
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and I ruin my good looks funny old
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and I should say Simeon
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what trouble
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shouts Undercovers were come along
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I'm about
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I wish they can escape from me all mine
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try and I am like
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I've had too much booze I've been spat
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on
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I wish I could bike for some money to
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take me from
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mine's right
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Shayne always gave money to beggars I
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don't know he still does but he always
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gave money to beggars whenever he saw
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them and if drunks approached to me
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always gave him some money and there was
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a way that and he would talk about an
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expectation that's where he was going to
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be someday you know that and that he
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didn't didn't sound like a fear to me
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you know nothing else is working I can
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always go any embankment with the butler
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mouths you know and in strum a guitar
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and enough money to drink I remember
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meeting him once and I was coming from a
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warehouse party of something in Kings
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Cross and he was coming along the
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pavement probably at 4:00 in the morning
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on a December night freezing cold sleet
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and just you know his shirt a shirt open
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and he sort of like plimsolls and very
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flimsy trousers you know and he was
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scrambling around trying to find money
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that he was he was given a diner night
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some money and heat some of the rolled
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off the pavement loose with this bottle
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of wine so it was an extraordinary sight
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for this was a guy who would you know
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just had a top ten hit at you know the
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00:36:16,630 --> 00:36:20,470
celebrity never seemed to intervene at
543
00:36:18,190 --> 00:36:22,300
all on the way he lived his life we were
544
00:36:20,469 --> 00:36:23,649
thinking of doing a song together or
545
00:36:22,300 --> 00:36:25,840
something like that and he said I you
546
00:36:23,650 --> 00:36:27,820
know I've got tracking thousands of the
547
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,690
songs however I'm going although
548
00:36:27,820 --> 00:36:30,460
you know
549
00:36:28,690 --> 00:36:31,750
let's see someone he goes there over
550
00:36:30,460 --> 00:36:35,110
there like that and this is sort of
551
00:36:31,750 --> 00:36:36,579
garbage sort of pile of garbage over in
552
00:36:35,110 --> 00:36:37,780
the corner and he and I kind of go over
553
00:36:36,579 --> 00:36:39,599
there and sort of start pulling out
554
00:36:37,780 --> 00:36:42,250
these pieces of paper and there's like
555
00:36:39,599 --> 00:36:47,710
great songs on it and they just sort of
556
00:36:42,250 --> 00:36:50,500
thrown over in her in a pile and you
557
00:36:47,710 --> 00:36:53,650
know I mean so so I think he goes away
558
00:36:50,500 --> 00:36:55,719
he goes around that the creative process
559
00:36:53,650 --> 00:36:59,889
for him is very is in a very irreverent
560
00:36:55,719 --> 00:37:04,239
one in a way but at the same time they
561
00:36:59,889 --> 00:37:07,150
are very considered his songs as well
562
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:09,309
it's quite odd really he has a genuine
563
00:37:07,150 --> 00:37:12,150
will to live he has a genuine desire to
564
00:37:09,309 --> 00:37:16,779
be alive and to be in a human body
565
00:37:12,150 --> 00:37:19,300
um he doesn't you know it doesn't appear
566
00:37:16,780 --> 00:37:21,410
that way because
567
00:37:19,300 --> 00:37:23,720
doctors tell him that he's got to stop
568
00:37:21,409 --> 00:37:26,659
drinking and he doesn't stop drinking so
569
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:28,459
people think that he must have a death
570
00:37:26,659 --> 00:37:32,029
wish but in actual fact that's not the
571
00:37:28,460 --> 00:37:33,590
case he just doesn't enjoy life without
572
00:37:32,030 --> 00:37:35,680
a drink I think I think it's the way it
573
00:37:33,590 --> 00:37:35,680
is
574
00:37:37,940 --> 00:37:43,250
every now and then he it screws up and
575
00:37:41,150 --> 00:37:47,230
I'll do something like this you know I'm
576
00:37:43,250 --> 00:37:50,539
breaking my hair you know I mean I get
577
00:37:47,230 --> 00:37:52,219
or a taxi nuts me 18 feet across the
578
00:37:50,539 --> 00:37:56,869
road or something you know I mean but
579
00:37:52,219 --> 00:38:02,059
like I'm not out of control you know I
580
00:37:56,869 --> 00:38:06,400
mean I have been out of control I would
581
00:38:02,059 --> 00:38:10,809
use for long periods you know I mean but
582
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:14,720
but always nice to pull back from me
583
00:38:10,809 --> 00:38:17,559
from the edge before going your best
584
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:17,559
like you know I
585
00:38:19,420 --> 00:38:27,170
it's true though I'm out of it my stats
586
00:38:22,460 --> 00:38:29,210
on right and all but I can write
587
00:38:27,170 --> 00:38:31,579
songs that are out of it you know on the
588
00:38:29,210 --> 00:38:33,190
fight it's easier for me to write so I'm
589
00:38:31,579 --> 00:38:37,630
out
590
00:38:33,190 --> 00:38:41,460
I've been loving you
591
00:38:37,630 --> 00:38:41,460
long time
592
00:38:42,248 --> 00:38:48,308
down only is down all the day
593
00:38:49,510 --> 00:38:56,950
and I've cried for your troubles
594
00:38:58,769 --> 00:39:02,820
smiled at your funny
595
00:39:07,460 --> 00:39:12,920
watched our friends grow up together
596
00:39:15,739 --> 00:39:21,649
and we sorrow as they fell
597
00:39:23,940 --> 00:39:26,778
some
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00:39:32,130 --> 00:39:36,000
so
599
00:39:33,969 --> 00:39:36,000
Oh
600
00:39:38,170 --> 00:39:46,619
a hat took shelter from a shower
601
00:39:49,130 --> 00:39:54,400
and I stepped into your
602
00:40:00,260 --> 00:40:02,590
it is
603
00:40:05,179 --> 00:40:11,409
when was whispered all it's Joan
604
00:40:24,250 --> 00:40:26,309
you
605
00:40:30,509 --> 00:40:44,759
now this song is nearly over we may
606
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:44,759
never find out what it means
607
00:40:47,940 --> 00:40:54,159
there's a lighter
608
00:40:51,159 --> 00:40:54,159
me
609
00:40:56,139 --> 00:41:04,869
you're the measure of my dreams
610
00:41:01,329 --> 00:41:04,869
better on
611
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,019
you
612
00:41:27,230 --> 00:41:30,588
gentlemen the pole
613
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:40,529
when Shane first took the paint across
614
00:41:38,579 --> 00:41:44,579
the Irish Sea the great and the hoods
615
00:41:40,530 --> 00:41:47,310
reacted with first horror and villains I
616
00:41:44,579 --> 00:41:49,880
think she ins real quality was entirely
617
00:41:47,309 --> 00:41:52,409
missed by many people follow long time
618
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:53,760
necessarily became modern and urbanized
619
00:41:52,409 --> 00:41:57,210
I mean the great social changes that
620
00:41:53,760 --> 00:42:00,450
took place in Ireland in the 60s made
621
00:41:57,210 --> 00:42:04,440
people sort of enthusiastic for putting
622
00:42:00,449 --> 00:42:07,098
the cultural soyons and of the past
623
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:07,099
behind them
624
00:42:16,028 --> 00:42:24,409
they resisted putting a high valuation
625
00:42:22,460 --> 00:42:26,900
on the music of the post they didn't
626
00:42:24,409 --> 00:42:29,629
want that trashy music tragedy played
627
00:42:26,900 --> 00:42:32,269
brought back into this newly respectable
628
00:42:29,630 --> 00:42:34,548
world your performances it says here
629
00:42:32,268 --> 00:42:40,939
have been described a sordid rowdy and
630
00:42:34,548 --> 00:42:42,349
vulgar what about big complaints and the
631
00:42:40,940 --> 00:42:44,240
criticisms of you that you were thought
632
00:42:42,349 --> 00:42:45,710
of bringing Irish music into distributor
633
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:49,219
and you're playing off the paddy and the
634
00:42:45,710 --> 00:42:51,559
drunken patty images on well we started
635
00:42:49,219 --> 00:42:52,939
out playing in bars it was a dynamic and
636
00:42:51,559 --> 00:42:54,950
Ireland going on between people who
637
00:42:52,940 --> 00:42:56,150
wanted to be to go forward into this
638
00:42:54,949 --> 00:42:58,009
brave new world of you know
639
00:42:56,150 --> 00:43:01,220
sophistication that people that were
640
00:42:58,010 --> 00:43:03,710
very disturbed about this bunch of boys
641
00:43:01,219 --> 00:43:05,179
coming from England and bringing back
642
00:43:03,710 --> 00:43:07,579
this music that they thought they'd
643
00:43:05,179 --> 00:43:09,139
banished forever you know somehow in
644
00:43:07,579 --> 00:43:10,760
their head was you know it was Eva's
645
00:43:09,139 --> 00:43:13,480
devil eras music you know we don't we
646
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:13,480
don't want to go back there
647
00:43:15,710 --> 00:43:23,780
well it's Soros time Wow
648
00:43:20,739 --> 00:43:26,259
by the end of the 80s The Pogues moment
649
00:43:23,780 --> 00:43:28,490
in British pop history had passed a
650
00:43:26,260 --> 00:43:30,650
combination of splits over musical
651
00:43:28,489 --> 00:43:32,479
direction and chains increasing use of
652
00:43:30,650 --> 00:43:34,930
drink and drugs led to their eventual
653
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:34,929
demise
654
00:43:38,860 --> 00:43:43,550
since McGann split with the Pogues
655
00:43:41,539 --> 00:43:45,759
interest has centered more on the state
656
00:43:43,550 --> 00:43:48,470
of his health than on his musical output
657
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:50,600
he has however formed a new band called
658
00:43:48,469 --> 00:43:55,209
the Popes releasing a critically
659
00:43:50,599 --> 00:43:55,210
acclaimed album the snake in 1994
660
00:44:01,199 --> 00:44:06,759
in the 1990s Shane's been recognized as
661
00:44:04,599 --> 00:44:08,190
an icon in Ireland to rank alongside the
662
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:10,390
likes of Brendan being
663
00:44:08,190 --> 00:44:13,090
McGowan's thrashing of the culture
664
00:44:10,389 --> 00:44:14,500
revitalized it but like the in the
665
00:44:13,090 --> 00:44:16,300
irreverence stemmed from his own
666
00:44:14,500 --> 00:44:20,920
detailed knowledge in respective
667
00:44:16,300 --> 00:44:23,560
Ireland's past I tell you story um a
668
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:25,269
sanguine one and there was a television
669
00:44:23,559 --> 00:44:25,719
program in Ireland here a couple of
670
00:44:25,269 --> 00:44:28,480
years ago
671
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:30,819
and it was I was singing with a lot of
672
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:33,579
different people on so Shane came over
673
00:44:30,820 --> 00:44:36,190
from London to sing with me and he said
674
00:44:33,579 --> 00:44:38,259
he'd love to sing spans Hill Hill so I
675
00:44:36,190 --> 00:44:40,329
started off singer he said stop stop no
676
00:44:38,260 --> 00:44:42,010
he pulled me up that's not no that's not
677
00:44:40,329 --> 00:44:44,409
the way you're recorded that's not the
678
00:44:42,010 --> 00:44:46,570
way I learned it and this is a recording
679
00:44:44,409 --> 00:44:48,670
I made 25 years ago and he had it
680
00:44:46,570 --> 00:44:51,730
word-for-word and he couldn't handle the
681
00:44:48,670 --> 00:44:53,530
fact that it had changed a bit i reaiiy
682
00:44:51,730 --> 00:44:55,510
loved that I thought that was great you
683
00:44:53,530 --> 00:44:57,550
know and I changed it and I went back
684
00:44:55,510 --> 00:45:08,640
and I sang it the way he wanted to sing
685
00:44:57,550 --> 00:45:08,640
and was lonely neighbors see what
686
00:45:08,980 --> 00:45:16,349
they are ones they like got a gun
687
00:45:13,929 --> 00:45:16,349
the
688
00:45:20,208 --> 00:45:25,129
quickly
689
00:45:22,130 --> 00:45:25,130
laws
690
00:45:28,079 --> 00:45:31,739
sherry bharata's
691
00:45:35,559 --> 00:45:47,219
the flying visits to me first and only
692
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:50,990
low she's fair eyes on me
693
00:45:47,219 --> 00:45:50,989
li and gentle
694
00:45:51,460 --> 00:45:59,070
she kill her
695
00:45:55,179 --> 00:45:59,069
to me century
696
00:46:01,150 --> 00:46:29,050
the cha
697
00:46:30,170 --> 00:46:45,519
he drove off this well and I
698
00:46:35,530 --> 00:46:45,519
in California many miles from sponsor
699
00:46:54,679 --> 00:47:00,119
there has been a certain mood of
700
00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:01,470
celebration in Ireland in a way they
701
00:47:00,119 --> 00:47:03,329
were celebrating liberation from the
702
00:47:01,469 --> 00:47:06,480
past and liberation from having to be
703
00:47:03,329 --> 00:47:08,549
defensive about being Irish and Jack
704
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:12,599
cartons football team epitomize that in
705
00:47:08,550 --> 00:47:15,630
the sense that everybody from ray
706
00:47:12,599 --> 00:47:18,059
Houghton to bono are going out into the
707
00:47:15,630 --> 00:47:20,160
world to represent Ireland and that
708
00:47:18,059 --> 00:47:22,519
condole and often does dull our critical
709
00:47:20,159 --> 00:47:25,859
faculties but the worth of some of these
710
00:47:22,519 --> 00:47:27,360
phenomena but of course I mean it didn't
711
00:47:25,860 --> 00:47:29,370
have $2 our critical faculties in
712
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:32,070
relation to she and McGowan who remain
713
00:47:29,369 --> 00:47:34,199
assess the perhaps the one authentic
714
00:47:32,070 --> 00:47:36,240
genius who came out of that whole mood
715
00:47:34,199 --> 00:47:40,230
of the celebration of Irish Sri and its
716
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:42,119
various manifestations in that period as
717
00:47:40,230 --> 00:47:44,760
Ireland's come to terms with his own
718
00:47:42,119 --> 00:47:46,769
past and looks afresh at its history so
719
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:48,630
Shane and his later work explores his
720
00:47:46,769 --> 00:47:51,059
direct relationship with the Irish
721
00:47:48,630 --> 00:47:52,980
tradition looking beyond his immediate
722
00:47:51,059 --> 00:47:55,799
antecedents like The Dubliners and
723
00:47:52,980 --> 00:47:58,679
Brendan bein to a doomed 19th century
724
00:47:55,800 --> 00:48:01,760
romantic poet the Gothic figure of James
725
00:47:58,679 --> 00:48:01,759
Clarence Mangum
726
00:48:10,329 --> 00:48:22,750
my way oppressor see Jason again brought
727
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:29,329
me comfort with Lana my machine back
728
00:48:22,750 --> 00:48:33,028
tonight to a public execution
729
00:48:29,329 --> 00:48:34,200
Stephens dream yeah longest part
730
00:48:33,028 --> 00:48:38,730
Cheyenne
731
00:48:34,199 --> 00:48:42,689
annoy his Lord stone is over Marva the
732
00:48:38,730 --> 00:48:43,889
way he lived his Lord you know I love
733
00:48:42,690 --> 00:48:49,320
his videos
734
00:48:43,889 --> 00:48:57,449
you know he's a Republican alcoholic
735
00:48:49,320 --> 00:49:00,320
junkie you know something that I can
736
00:48:57,449 --> 00:49:00,319
identify with
737
00:49:02,539 --> 00:49:08,369
he didn't think about what he did when
738
00:49:05,460 --> 00:49:13,019
his hosts are suffering so he died young
739
00:49:08,369 --> 00:49:14,909
you know but you know I mean like I
740
00:49:13,019 --> 00:49:21,860
always put myself first
741
00:49:14,909 --> 00:49:21,859
you know I was all painful isn't my baby
742
00:49:23,659 --> 00:49:31,949
where's the part I mean I hate the
743
00:49:29,150 --> 00:49:35,760
mythology of self-destruction I really
744
00:49:31,949 --> 00:49:38,009
hated it and so easy and so
745
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:41,910
consumer-friendly you know artists or
746
00:49:38,010 --> 00:49:44,700
pop stars you know as fireworks you know
747
00:49:41,909 --> 00:49:46,819
lighten up some people's duel skies I
748
00:49:44,699 --> 00:49:51,359
don't know it's just I think Shane's
749
00:49:46,820 --> 00:49:53,519
much smarter than all that and I don't
750
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:57,329
think he had only geese you know he'd
751
00:49:53,519 --> 00:49:59,789
buy in he buys into Ola this how you
752
00:49:57,329 --> 00:50:03,779
talk to people this potential addicts
753
00:49:59,789 --> 00:50:06,449
and there's people who I've got a son
754
00:50:03,780 --> 00:50:09,890
Connor winners strange which protects
755
00:50:06,449 --> 00:50:16,339
them against sedation wears the pants
756
00:50:09,889 --> 00:50:16,339
where's the punker where is it
757
00:50:17,489 --> 00:50:24,579
a lot of teachers who are partners
758
00:50:21,568 --> 00:50:26,920
without Kimora find themselves in a
759
00:50:24,579 --> 00:50:28,390
situation where their life kind of
760
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:31,989
starts to revolve around the other
761
00:50:28,389 --> 00:50:36,368
person's drinking the husband or wife of
762
00:50:31,989 --> 00:50:40,028
the alcoholic makes their mission to
763
00:50:36,369 --> 00:50:43,119
control the other person that's really
764
00:50:40,028 --> 00:50:46,478
not being very practical because you
765
00:50:43,119 --> 00:50:48,818
can't no matter how much you try you
766
00:50:46,478 --> 00:50:53,259
know you can advise people and you can
767
00:50:48,818 --> 00:50:54,429
like put up little signposts and but it
768
00:50:53,259 --> 00:50:55,719
I don't think you can really tell
769
00:50:54,429 --> 00:50:57,219
somebody else what to do you think
770
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:59,679
you've got to let them find out for
771
00:50:57,219 --> 00:51:03,429
themselves I think once I realized that
772
00:50:59,679 --> 00:51:10,239
life got a lot easier all around you
773
00:51:03,429 --> 00:51:11,198
know only addictive personality I'm not
774
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:40,119
an alcoholic
775
00:51:11,199 --> 00:51:46,349
I used to drink a lot more so it's hard
776
00:51:40,119 --> 00:51:52,619
to friend to rush in their present away
777
00:51:46,349 --> 00:51:59,459
his starfighters apart so it's hard to
778
00:51:52,619 --> 00:52:05,410
turn to rush in their prison away so
779
00:51:59,458 --> 00:52:09,659
softly then kisser powerless it was the
780
00:52:05,409 --> 00:52:09,659
same story over
781
00:52:10,659 --> 00:52:23,558
hovering the poly so watching and you
782
00:52:17,028 --> 00:52:38,690
know that I must go ash door harsh
783
00:52:23,559 --> 00:52:43,630
warnings of holies imitate I'll be awful
784
00:52:38,690 --> 00:52:50,298
the mountains there'll be time enough
785
00:52:43,630 --> 00:52:56,599
left for to cry so good night and God
786
00:52:50,298 --> 00:52:57,739
guard you forever and write to me won't
787
00:52:56,599 --> 00:53:03,130
you
788
00:52:57,739 --> 00:53:12,849
goodbye so good night and God gonna do
789
00:53:03,130 --> 00:53:12,849
forever I'm right to me wash you boy
790
00:53:26,318 --> 00:53:32,298
what do you what do you say to people
791
00:53:28,579 --> 00:53:33,798
like who say that you know you're
792
00:53:32,298 --> 00:53:35,478
killing yourself you're drinking too
793
00:53:33,798 --> 00:53:40,929
much you shouldn't drink and I'm not
794
00:53:35,478 --> 00:53:45,768
drinking too much that's right yeah
795
00:53:40,929 --> 00:53:48,338
that's a good enough well I'm drinking
796
00:53:45,768 --> 00:53:48,338
enough
797
00:53:49,690 --> 00:53:59,450
let's visit general you know I'm a
798
00:53:52,998 --> 00:54:04,759
annoyed it's probably best to drink not
799
00:53:59,449 --> 00:54:06,978
quite enough you know and does it piss
800
00:54:04,759 --> 00:54:09,528
you off when people try and lecture
801
00:54:06,978 --> 00:54:12,018
you're trying to out try and save your
802
00:54:09,528 --> 00:54:17,329
try and say you drink - of course yeah
803
00:54:12,018 --> 00:54:23,659
Oh big boy I know I'm doing
804
00:54:17,329 --> 00:54:30,019
yeah how do you get that a lot
805
00:54:23,659 --> 00:54:36,139
you got people Chinese yes yeah I know
806
00:54:30,018 --> 00:54:43,608
yeah how'd you do it's not a off
807
00:54:36,139 --> 00:54:45,318
you know couple years ago I was making a
808
00:54:43,608 --> 00:54:48,139
red card and I asked Shane MacGowan for
809
00:54:45,318 --> 00:54:51,978
a are the any Psalms that suit me so he
810
00:54:48,139 --> 00:54:53,778
sent me this Psalm it's a song about the
811
00:54:51,978 --> 00:54:57,919
famine the great famine in Ireland which
812
00:54:53,778 --> 00:54:59,869
happened between 1845 and 1847 the one
813
00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:02,329
stage people in a certain part of the
814
00:54:59,869 --> 00:55:05,209
West of Ireland and country mail they
815
00:55:02,329 --> 00:55:08,059
didn't have the strength or the ability
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to the land to bury their dead properly
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so they reduced to burying them and the
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sand dunes by the seashore and he wrote
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this song called the dunes I walk today
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on the cold grey show where I watched
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when I was much younger well the bills
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Didion's upon the sand for the dead from
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the great hunger for the dead from the
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great hunger although I was a doctor's
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son against in fear and wonder and they
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perished from the raging plague to come
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in with the great hunger that come in
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with the great hunger when I watched at
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the age of four in 1847 the mounds they
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built upon the shore they seemed to
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point to heaven they seemed to point to
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heaven though wind and the rain who
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00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:04,160
worked away the dunes there all uneven
834
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the children kicked the sand around and
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the bones they are revealed then and the
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bones they are Raviv then my brothers
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and my sister died my mother only four
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and twenty and I alone survived to seed
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potatoes grow in plenty the potatoes
840
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grow in plenty as we died in vain they
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stole our grain to put upon their tables
842
00:56:27,009 --> 00:56:32,480
dyeing covered the dead with sand and
843
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:36,199
danced whales they were able and danced
844
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while they were able and a fiddle played
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00:56:36,199 --> 00:56:41,029
we drank poutine then ate the last of
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the berries then knelt and said the
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Rosary round the mounds of dead weed
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buried round the mounds of dead weed
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buried
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00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:53,119
I saw dark showers rise up from the sand
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danced all around the dunes they danced
852
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the rattling dance of the Dead to a set
853
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of mournful tunes to a set of mournful
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tunes a crack of a lightning split the
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sky the rain undid Yoon's it poured
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I left them lying where I shut them down
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the bailiff and the landlord then I went
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for a drink in Westport
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I walked today on the cold gray shore
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where I watched when I was much younger
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well they built the dunes upon the sand
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the dead from the great hunger for the
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dead from the great hunger
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Foca Bonilla next on bbc4
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she's out on his own
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you
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