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I received this in my e-mail
on a Sunday morning.

I think the date was March 5th.

The e-mail had come in from
our cell expert, Rick Green,

at 5 a.m. -- he had
been up all night.

He saw this,
what he calls an artifact,

which is the footprint on
the cellphone of a Google search

conducted on
Jennifer McCabe's phone.

It says January 29, 2022,
at 2:27 and 40 seconds.

"How long to die in cold."

And if that search
was deleted by the user,

you get a red "yes" flag
in this column.

And this would indicate
that it was deleted.

I'm on trial
for my life right now.

They want you to believe
that I killed John,

but their rush to prosecute me
will bite them in the ass.

If Jen McCabe knew at 2:27
that John was about to be

or was placed in the cold,

that's highly incriminating.

[director] Yeah.

[suspenseful
orchestral music playing]

[David] We kind of get at,

you know, what is the -- the
million-dollar question here,

which is...

"Did the search happen
at 2:27 a.m.?"

Jennifer McCabe's 2:27 a.m.
Google search was really

bombshell information.

And so, very early on,
we were hopeful that the media

would take the Karen Read story
and run with it,

but they didn't.

So the coverage
was essentially dead,

and it was not by our choice.

We would have preferred
to have the media

shine a spotlight here.

Welcome to the live show,
ladies and gentlemen.

I am your fearless host here.

They call me Uncle Turtleboy
around these parts.

[Flint] Turtleboy,
on his Twitter, calls himself

"an award-winning journalist."

I'm not sure where
those awards come from,

but his real name
is Aidan Kearney.

He was a history teacher
in Worcester County,

and then left
and became a blogger.

Joining us tonight,
our special guest blogger,

social media personality,
Aidan Kearney,

also known as Turtleboy.

The Karen Read case
really started to blow up

when Turtleboy started shining
a light on Karen's innocence.

What we know it to be
is a cover-up.

It's outrageous, outrageous.

[Jon] I've been a big fan
of Turtleboy for many years,

and me and Karen,
we had some discussion about,

you know, possibly reaching out
to him because we've seen him

uncover some massive scandals.

What really caught my attention
was a court filing in April

about the Google search.

And every page I read further,
my jaw just dropped.

[Kristina]
That 2:27 Google search
was one of those stories that

Turtleboy reported early on
in this case that the people

who support Karen Read latched
onto as evidence of a cover-up.

Court paperwork appears to show
a link between murder suspect

Karen Read and the blogger
known as Turtleboy.

According to the prosecution,
the defense was selectively

leaking bits of information
for Turtleboy

and sort of guiding him
on the path of,

"Hey, this should be
your next story,"

or, "Here's information
for a new story."

[Sue] Defense attorneys
have used the media

since the dawn of time
to forward stories.

We wouldn't be in this business
if we didn't get leaks and have

anonymous sources.

So it's definitely
a media strategy.

[Karen]
My lawyers told me we could
share anything with Turtleboy,

as long as it was public,
and not for me to do it

directly, to go through
a third party.

And then I started to get
nervous about who I was using

for a third party.

So I eventually just started
sending things directly.

And then we started talking
about the case and probably

once a day, almost every day,
five, six days a week.

He drew a lot of eyeballs.

There wasn't a ton of attention
on this case until he started

blogging about it
and speaking about it.

I took up the cause of
somebody arrested for murder.

[Paul] When he started
posting all these stories,

I started watching all of them.

And I just kept
getting more involved.

We started doing standouts.

We'd go stand out
over overpass on the highway

and hold the sign.

And the idea was to get
as many people to know about

the Karen Read case as possible.

[horn beeping]

It seems to me that
there's no middle ground.

You're either pro-Karen Read

or you are pro-prosecution,
pro-police.

It's gotten really vitriolic
to the point that friends

and neighbors are no longer
talking because of this case.

Turtleboy is the primary reason
that there are people

out in front of that courthouse
every single day right now.

-[horns beeping]
-[protesters cheering]

[protesters] Free Karen Read!

[Jennifer C.] The problem is

he's crossed
the boundary concerning

jury selection
and tainting a jury pool.

And he has, on megaphone,

said that that's his purpose.

[protesters] Free Karen Read!
Free Karen Read!

[Brendan] The atmosphere
around the courthouse

changed very quickly.

It was a single day where there
were a number of folks standing

on the courthouse steps,

and they were
booing Johnny's family

as they were walking into
the courthouse, which at first,

I frankly had
trouble processing, like,

"What -- what's --
why are they doing this?"

And then it became
very clear that

we had underestimated
the effectiveness of

the Free Karen Read PR campaign.

-[protesters booing]
-[man] Give it up!

The reason that the community
is so, it's so incendiary there,

is because they've been
dealing with it for generations,

of what they consider
to be sort of this, this --

this old-boys network of cops
who just get away with it.

Everybody knows everybody,
everybody's connected
to everybody,

and that leads to problems.

That leads to corruption.

[Joseph]
Massachusetts is not unique,
and certainly there's been

a long and tortured history
involving and including

police corruption,

lack of accountability
for police officers,

police officers that have
been caught planting evidence,

police officers that
have been caught lying.

And I think a lot of people
are saying, "That stops now."

-[protesters cheering]
-[woman] Love you, Karen.

[Priscilla]
We are just now weeks away from
the high-profile murder trial

against Karen Read.

There will be
a 200-foot buffer zone

around the courthouse in Dedham.

No one is allowed to
wear clothing or have signs

in the courthouse that
support one side or the other.

Starting next week, apparently,
we can't have any gear

that says "Karen Read."

We basically are gonna
have to put duct tape

over our mouth.

[Joseph]
Judge Cannone doesn't want

any outside influences
or distractions.

She's got to make sure
the case is tried

within the four walls
of that courtroom.

I can tell you from my
experience with this community,

they are not gonna be muzzled.

[horn beeping]

[Paul]
We were trying to figure out
how we can get around that

buffer zone, and everyone said
we should wear a certain color.

Karen Read said, "I love pink,"
or something of that sort,

and it snowballed from there.

Pink, because
it's Karen's favorite color.

-[horn beeping]
-[protesters cheering]

We love her.

Free Karen Read.
Let freedom ring, woo!

[Karen]
I wanted it to be something
feminine that they wouldn't

confuse it with justice for
John either, and think we're

pro-prosecution.

-[woman] Looking dapper, buddy.
-I appreciate that.

Thank you.
You guys look great
in the pink.

I love it.

And I do like
the color pink.

I don't wear it ever,
but I like it.

So I just said, "Pink."

[protesters cheering
via phone]

-[Alan] Is that live?
-[Karen] Yeah.

Oh, actually,

I love the pink.

Love the pink.

[protesters cheering]

[reporter] Supporters of
Karen Read were cheering

as she and her defense team
arrived for day one

of the trial -- jury selection.

[Elizabeth] Honestly, we had
no idea, going into this,

how many jurors we were
gonna be able to find that
could be fair and neutral.

Everyone's read
the media about this.

There's a lot of people
who know what's going on.

[reporter] Out of the 88 people
in this first pool,

69 indicated
they did know about it,

including 24 who said they've
already formed an opinion

about Read's guilt or innocence.

[Karen] It's just bizarre.

I'm facing life in prison,

and now these strangers
are gonna decide

how I live the rest of my life.

Arguably, I've said this many
times, jury selection,

that's your trial.

[David]
You will question the shoddy

and biased investigation
that was done,

a faulty investigation
that's led to Karen Read
sitting here today.

We're working on
our opening statement,

and we're all on edge right now.

Like, this is showtime.

And you will reasonably doubt
their case because Karen Read

was framed and the evidence
tends to show that.

[Alan] Immediately off
the top of my head,

I don't ever want you or me
or Liza or anybody else

to say "tends to prove"
that she didn't do it.
-[David] Yeah.

We're gonna [bleep] --
We're not trying this case

to a hanging jury.

We're trying this case
to an acquittal.

-I did, I --
-Good.

I watched TV
and like chilled out,

and then I got up at four and...

-[Alan] Got up at four?
-And was like, ah!

[laughing]

-[Alan] Jesus Christ.
-Big day.

[Alan] There's no way
that we could be more prepared.

[Karen]
I'm emotionally prepared.

I'm not emotionally
looking forward to it,

and I know
I'm gonna have emotions

that I'm not
completely expecting.

-[woman] We love you, Karen!
-[man] Go get ‘em Karen!

[Karen]
But I've steeled myself for it,

and these last
two and a half years

have prepared me for it.

-[horn beeping]
-[protesters cheering]

Free Karen Read!
Free Karen Read!

[Karen]
They say it's become a circus.

It's -- it's not about justice
for John, it's all about
the Karen Read case.

[protesters] Free Karen Read!

I mean, it's my life
and my trial.

Lock her up!

But the Karen Read case is
trying to get justice for John.

The case is about how he died.

I think a lot of people
are gonna be, like,

shocked when
they see the truth.

[bailiff]
22-117, the Commonwealth
versus Karen Read.

[Adam] Good morning.

John O'Keefe
grew up in Braintree.

He was 46 years old
when he passed.

He was the son of

John O'Keefe Jr., and
Margaret, or Peggy, O'Keefe.

Adam Lally has a reputation
for being methodical

and hard-evidence focused,
and not flashy at all.

And they had two children
who were very young.

[Kristina]
It is not a prosecutor's job
to be flashy or interesting.

[Adam] They eventually cajoled
another friend of theirs,
Mr. Curt Roberts,

to come out to the bar
and join them as well.

And there's some other people
that are located within the bar,

including a Mr. James Sullivan,
who we hear from, who was...

[Karen] I thought Adam Lally's
opening statement
was rambling.

"You'll hear from this person,"
and like incidental witnesses,

people who had a beer with us
the night before and then left.

[Adam] You'll hear
testimony from

Ms. Roberts,
Ms. McCabe, firefighters,

and the responding
Canton police officers.

I'm not an attorney,
but you just threw literally

27 names.

Eventually, the defendant,
while driving around, this will

come in as far as
other testimony

and related testimony
as well.

Thank you very much
for your time.

[Judge Cannone] All right.
Thank you, Mr. Lally.

Mr. Yannetti?

[David] Thank you, Your Honor.
May it please the court,

Karen Read was framed.

Yeah!

[David] The car never struck
John O'Keefe.

She did not cause his death,

and that means that
somebody else did.

You will learn that at that
address lived a well-known

and well-connected law
enforcement family in Canton.

You will learn in short
that the police did no

real investigation of this case,
and you will question why.

-You tell ‘em, Yannetti!
-[protesters cheering]

[Karen]
I'd heard David's opening,
he's rehearsed it,

but when you hear it
in the courtroom,

and the cameras are rolling,

and my family's there,
my friends are there,

and the jurors are there,

it feels like you're hearing it
for the first time.

It really felt like I'd never
heard it, and I'd just heard it

the night before.

We will stand before you again
at the end of this trial

and ask that you find
Karen Read not guilty.

-Good job, guys.
-[protesters cheering]

Excellent job, David.
You crushed the opening.

-David.
-[Karen] David.

-[Alan] What an amateur.
-[all laughing]

[Karen] David, I will iron
your shirt every day.

[Alan] That was
[bleep] phenomenal.
I love it, I love it.

You really, really
did an amazing job.

And the contrast between
the Commonwealth

standing up and just
rattling off 50 names...
-[Karen] Rambling.

...that don't --
they've got no context for.

It was just name
after name after name.

I know this case, and I couldn't
keep up with the frickin' names.

[Karen] I was dreading
opening statements.

I've been advised they will...

they will call you everything
but -- but -- but human,

um, and, uh, it was --
it was a good day.

It was -- it was
a really good day.

[Alan] Well, I got to say,
if that's the opening salvo

by the prosecution...
-Yeah.

[Alan] Womp, womp.

Like, wow.

[Judge Cannone]
Your next witness,
please, Mr. Lally.

[Adam] Yes, Your Honor.
The Commonwealth calls

Jennifer McCabe to the stand.

Here was a woman
who was involved

in John O'Keefe's
last night out.

Someone who was
out drinking

with Karen Read
and John O'Keefe.

And then the person
who had invited them back

to 34 Fairview Road
for an after party.

[bailiff] Do you solemnly swear
for the court and the jury
[indistinct],

the whole truth and nothing
but the truth, so help you God?

-[Jennifer M.] I do.
-[bailiff] Thank you,
you may take the stand.

[Alan] I think it's pretty clear
that Jen McCabe is gonna be

a central witness for us.

She was one of the women that
was in the house that night,

and she's the woman
that Google searched

"how long to die in the cold."

I think a major turning point
in the Karen Read trial is when

Jennifer McCabe took the stand.

That's when
we went to, you know,

"Wow, these are
the heavy hitters."

[Karen] Jen McCabe was
at the crime scene,

and something happened.

John was -- John was murdered.

So, Jen McCabe, it's me or her.

Either I'm going down,
Jen, or you are.

[Adam]
How would you describe your
relationship with John O'Keefe?

He was my friend.
I loved John.

He was an amazing guy.

[Elizabeth]
Karen and John initially
started their night on the 28th

at C.F. McCarthy's.

They got drinks with friends.

Everyone was in good spirits,
by all accounts.

They eventually decide to meet
up with some additional people

at the Waterfall Bar and Grill.

At the Waterfall that night are
all of the McCabes and Alberts.

You have Brian Albert,
a Boston police officer,

Nicole Albert, Julie Albert,
Chris Albert, Jennifer McCabe,

Matt McCabe, and Brian Higgins,
a federal ATF agent.

They're all drinking together
at this watering hole.

[Adam]
With respect to Miss Read,

did you speak to her
at the bar?
-Yes.

[Adam] Do you recall what,
if anything, the two of you
spoke about?

[Jennifer M.]
Karen had shared a little bit
of frustration that morning,

and then we just
talked about how, you know,

challenging it is with kids.

You know, she mentioned that
that's kind of all they ever
fight about.

And I said, "Yeah,
well, welcome to parenthood."

But again,

it was just, you know,
girlfriend to girlfriend

kind of venting.

Karen and John enter the bar.

There's not a single person
there who says that they were

in anything but a good mood.

You can see
their interactions that evening.

They're hugging each other.
They're getting along.

[Adam]
Now, you left the Waterfall
sometime around midnight.

-Is that correct?
-Yes.

[Elizabeth] Jennifer McCabe
invited John and Karen

to come back to
her brother-in-law
Brian Albert's house

for some additional drinks.

So after the Waterfall,

Karen and John drive
to go to the Albert residence.

They've never
been there before.

The Alberts are people that
they know, sort of in passing,

but they've never socialized
at their home before.

When Karen and John show up
at the Albert residence,

Jennifer McCabe is already in
the house, and she looked out

the front door and initially
observed Karen's vehicle

parked in the street,
in the roadway,

in front of
the Albert residence.

[Adam]
So when you went over to
the storm door and looked out,

what, if anything, did you see?

I saw a dark SUV.

So at that point,
I text him, "Here?!"

"Pull behind me"
at 12:31.

[Adam] And at any point in time,
did John and O'Keefe respond
to your text message?

[Jennifer M.] No.

And then a few minutes later,
at 12:40, when I say "Hello,"

I cannot be certain whether
they were still out front

or if they had left.

[Adam]
And what was your thought as
far as where John was or where

John had gone at that point?

At that point, I thought maybe,

uh, they decided not to come in.

Maybe they got
into an argument.

[Adam] Did you think much of it
at that point?

No.

[Adam]
At some point, you left
the residence at Fairview.

You went home around what time?

Roughly 1:30, 1:45.

[Karen]
After I -- I left 34 Fairview,

I was angry at John.

So I'm calling
while I'm driving,

and he didn't answer.

When I got to John's,
I kept calling him.

You know, I'm --
I'm drinking, I'm swearing.

It's -- it's horrible.

I became convinced
he's sleeping with someone.

And there were multiple women
in the neighborhood of Fairview

that John had been with.

[Adam] And from your analysis
of that phone, we were able to

determine approximately
how many calls occurred

from the defendant's phone
to Mr. O'Keefe's phone

from the time period
shortly after 12:30 a.m.

to the time period
shortly after 6:00 a.m.?

There was over 50.
I think it was 53 or 55.

[Karen]
Eventually, I fell asleep
on the couch at John's house

from about
1:30 a.m. to 4:30.

And I woke up, and the reason
I slept on the couch was

to know when he came in.

And I knew when I woke up on
the couch, he hadn't come in.

I called him again,
and he didn't answer.

My voice is shaking.

I started calling
all his friends,

and nobody had heard from him,
nobody had seen him.

And then I called
Jen McCabe at 4:53.

And I said, "I'm looking --
looking for John."

She proceeds to scream
my name multiple times.

And she tells me that
John didn't come home,

they got into a fight, and that
she left him at the Waterfall.

And I say, "Karen, we saw you
outside of my sister's."

[Adam] And what
was her response?

She told me that she
didn't remember going there.

And then she
started yelling, um,

"Jen, Jen."

And then she was saying,
"Did I hit him?

Could I have hit him?"

[Adam]
And this is while you're still
in your home and you're in

your bed, correct?
-[Jennifer M.] Correct.

And then she proceeded
to say that she had

a cracked taillight.

For some reason, that morning,

it's going through
Karen Read's head at this point

that something bad
has happened to John O'Keefe.

The prosecution
would be arguing, like,

"Why would she know something's
wrong with John O'Keefe,

if she's innocent?"

[Brendan]
Karen made dozens of calls
that morning, not one to 911.

If one of those calls
went to 911,

Johnny might still be alive.

It's upsetting
to think that's true.

So Jen says,
"You're hysterical,

come pick me up, and I'll go
look for John with you."

And I'm simultaneously
calling Kerry Roberts.

Kerry wasn't at the bar or at
Fairview, but she was a friend

of John's and had known
John for a long time

and communicated with him
all the time.

[Kerry] Karen called me
at five o'clock in the morning.

I answered the phone
and she said, "John's dead.

Kerry, Kerry, Kerry."

And then she hung up.

I -- I may have said to Kerry,
"I'm worried he's dead,"

or something,
but I didn't say unequivocally

in a declarative statement,
"Kerry, John's dead."

And if I had killed him,
why would I be saying that?

It doesn't make any sense.

[Kerry] Finally, she called me
back again.

And she said,
"I'm afraid John might be dead.

"He might have
gotten hit by a plow.

"He did not
come home last night.

I think something happened."

And I said, "Kerry,
I'm pulling into Jen McCabe's.

Just come over here.
Let's all hop in one car."

Kerry was telling her
to shut up,

that we needed
to just go back to John's

and we'll drive in one car,
and let's go to John's.

Maybe he's there,
and he's passed out,

and you didn't see him.

So we go back to John's.

Now, this is an hour after
I first called Jen McCabe.

I called her at 4:53.
It's 5:45.

And we're back where
I just spent the night.

[Kerry] Karen did point it out
at one point in the driveway.

She said, "My taillight,
look at my taillight."

And I looked at it, and I said,
"You told me you don't remember

anything from last night."

She said,
"Do you think I hit him?
Do you think I hit him?"

I said,
"No, I don't think you hit him."

I think you
probably hit something.

But let's just go in the house
and look for him.

And we go all through
the house, and I'm just

running around -- we're all
running around the house.

And eventually, I said, "Jen, we
have to go back to 34 Fairview."

He's not any of these places.

After that, the three of us
got in the car,

and we drove to Fairview.

Karen is in between us,

like from the back,
kind of pushing up in between

Kerry and myself.

And she's just screaming,

"Kerry! Kerry!"

Her name over and over,
my name over and over,

and repeating certain phrases.
"Could I have hit him?

Did I hit him?"

Kerry is yelling at her
to shut up, to sit back,

to buckle up, to look for John.

And as soon as we --
we approached the property,

he's right [bleep] there.

He's -- he's right on the edge
of the property, and I said,

"There he is."

And both women said, "Where?"

I said, "He's right there.
Stop the car."

[Adam] At the time that
she's saying this,

were you able to see anything
outside of the vehicle?

I saw nothing.

So I looked over,
and I didn't see anything.

And I looked at Jen,
and I said, "She's crazy."

And I unlocked the door,
and I sat back and watched.

And she ran over to
a mound of snow.

They pull up to 34 Fairview,
and Jen McCabe says that Karen

just darted out of the car,
like before it even stopped.

It was like, "Oh, there's John."
You know?

Somehow, in this dark,
we're still in the dark,

in -- in a blizzard,

Karen is able to spot
John's body and run to him.

Karen beelined from the car

to jump onto what Kerry
described as a hump in the snow,

by the time
they got over there.

But from the car,
Kerry testified,

you could not see anything
eight feet off the street.

So that was the moment for me,
the first question I had was,

"How did Karen know
where the body was?"

I ran over to him,
and John is perfectly still.

His mouth is open a little bit.

He's got cuts
and blood on his face.

And he's just wearing
the thin clothes he had on

the night before.

And he had a piece of glass

like perched on his nose,
like just wedged like

a splinter would be.

And I just -- just

pulled it, and as soon as
I pulled it,

it just gushed blood
down his face.

And he had, um,

his eyes were purple,
but this eye was split,

and it was dripping blood
from a cut down his face.

And I did try to do
mouth-to-mouth resuscitation.

I don't even know if
I was doing it right, but

when I pinched his nose
and breathed into his mouth,

I could hear gurgling.

And my first thought was,
"He left drunk,

he fell, and he's asphyxiating
on his vomit."

I said, "Kerry, roll him over,
roll him over.'"

And she said, "No,
don't roll him over.
He could've -- he --"

What she was implying
was he could have like

a broken neck or something.

So we're screaming
at each other,

and then she says,
"Shut the [bleep] up, Karen.
Shut the [bleep] up.

Leave him the way he is."

And it continued
where I felt like,

what is wrong with everyone?

Why are you
screaming at me like this?

And where's Jen?

Karen's screaming,
"Is he dead? Is he dead?"

And I was trying
to be calm and get help there

for John as fast as possible.

[phone line ringing]

So the first responders arrived.

And I'm screaming and crying.
I said, "It's my boyfriend.

"I left him,
and he never came home.

Is -- is he dead?"

He's [bleep] dead,
he's [bleep] freezing.

[Officer Lank]
We have a Boston police officer
that was just found in the snow

here, and does have
some trauma to his head.

Not sure if he's been
in a fight or whatever.

[Karen]
I mean, I was like a chicken.
You can see me on the video.

Like, I was yelling anything
and everything, and I was

really confused.

And a few minutes after that,
the EMTs come, and they put him

on a stretcher, and they get
him in the ambulance.

[Adam]
As he's being taken off
the ground, what, if anything,

did you observe in that area?

[Kerry] His phone was under him,
and it was grass.

[Adam] So everything else
is covered in snow,

and when he's lifted off
the ground, underneath his body,

is that where the grass is?
-Yes.

[Jennifer M.] More officers
began to arrive.

Miss Read just continued
to run around screaming.

One EMT had asked,

you know, his name,
his age, things like that,

um, if she knew what happened.

Ms. Read stated that
she hit him.

-[Adam] That's something that
she said once or more than once?
-Three times.

"I hit him,
I hit him, I hit him."

[Flint]
In the first week of trial,
one of the central ideas about

Karen Read's guilt or innocence

came up in multiple testimonies.

These first responders,
the people who were there,

several of them testified
that Karen Read said things

to the effect of, "I hit him,
I hit him, I hit him."

Like that she was taking
some kind of responsibility.

As I was ventilating,
I was able to ask,

"Did anybody see anything?
Did anybody -- what happened?"

And there was one individual
that replied several times,

"I hit him, I hit him."

"I hit him, I hit him.

Oh, my god, I hit him."

She said, "I hit him."

She repeated it, and there was
a police officer who was

in that vicinity,
kind of with us, who replied,

"You what?"
She repeated it one more time.

Earlier, it was,
"Could I, did I?"

When she spoke
to the paramedic,

it was crystal clear,
"I hit him."

[Karen] I remember everything.
I said, "Could I have hit him?

Did I hit him?"

And I'm not as clear as I would
be if I hadn't been drinking.

I mean, I had drank so, and that
led me to question like,

"Could -- could I have hit him?
Did I run over his foot

or hit him in the knee?
Did I incapacitate him?"

[Flint] Without a doubt,
alcohol consumption

played some role in the events
of January 29th, 2022.

Adam Lally provided a count of
each drink that Karen Read

had that night.

[Adam]
8:58 p.m. is when the defendant
receives drink number one.

9:57 p.m., drink number five.
10.29 p.m., drink number seven.

10.54 p.m., defendant
and Mr. O'Keefe arrive
at the Waterfall,

during the course of which,
on an hour that they're there,

the defendant receives
drinks number eight

and drinks number nine.

So the first two drinks
I had at McCarthy's

was a vodka soda with a shot.

So that was, I mean,
they were doubles,

which technically are
two drinks.

So those two,
the drink and then a shot,

they're counting as four.

Three drinks are ordered
for me at C.F. McCarthy's,

that I don't drink.

So someone buys me a double,
and I'm holding it,

but I'm just talking the whole
time, I never drink it.

And then they buy
a round of shots,

and I pour that into the drink.

So that one drink has three.

So I had, um,

five and a shot
over three hours.

So that's six.

[Kristina]
Everyone out that night
was drinking extensively,

including John O'Keefe.

And to have this trial where
all of these people who were

there that night are testifying
to things that

they specifically remember,
given the amount of alcohol

that it seems
they had been drinking,

it's just hard to believe
that memories were that clear.

[Alan]
Can we pivot to the, "I hit him,
I hit him, I hit him?"

I wanna know exactly where
she says she was

when she heard that.
Because I think that's --

Two or three minutes
before this.

[Alan] Yeah.

[Alan] One of
the big themes, um,

throughout our examination
of every one of the officers

on scene, and the firefighters
is this supposed statement,

"I hit him,"

that they're now turning into
some sort of an admission

that -- that she did this.

So this has to be the point at
which, and Jen's on her left,

you're on her right,
right there.

So if we stop here,

directly across from her
is a CPD officer, right?

She didn't know his name,
name happens to be Saraf.

At any point when you
were at that location,

did you hear my client
repeating the phrase,

"I hit him, I hit him,
I hit him, I hit him"?

She said, um...

"I hit him"?
No, I didn't hear that part.

I think the prosecution
believes that Karen telling one

or multiple people, "I hit him,
I hit him, I hit him,"

is a big piece of evidence
in their case.

But at the same time,
you saw how closely

the defense team picked apart

every person who claimed
to have heard Karen say,

"I hit him."

[Alan] Did you see
any place in that video where

you engaged my client and said,
"How'd you get here?

What happened?"

She said, "I hit him."

And you said,
"How'd you hit him?"

All the stuff that
you testified earlier to.

I didn't see that
in the video, no.

[Alan]
So it's fair to say that your
memory is a little bit faulty

as it pertains
to that time frame.

-Absolutely.
-[Alan] OK.

Can you point to that
portion of your report where

you indicate that my client
said the words, "I hit him"?

It doesn't say that.

Given what we know,

not a single individual
wrote that statement down.

That statement doesn't appear
on any of the tapes.

What does appear is,
"Is he dead?
Is he dead?"

Another statement
that appears is, "My boyfriend!

I left him
and he never came home."

[Alan] You can hear that.

Nowhere, do you hear "I hit him"
or any iteration thereof.

If she actually said that,
and someone heard that

statement at the scene,
she would never go anywhere.

She would have been arrested
on the spot.

It's kind of to the point
that I even wondered,

"Did I even say
the word 'hit' at all?"

I've -- I've just been
told it from the beginning,

and I know it -- I thought it,
like, could I be responsible?

Because I don't know
what the hell happened.

So, yeah, if anything, I said,
"Could I have?"

Because I have -- I did question
that in the early innings.

-[Alan] Of course.
-But now, I'm like, "Jesus,
did I ever even say 'hit'?"

[Karen] At the scene, I called
my mom, my dad, my brother,

and my best friend.

And no one was answering,
so I texted.

I texted, "John is dead."
And my dad called me back.

And I said,
"Dad, I don't want to live.

I just want
to die right now."

[William]
She was in an emotional state
and shock is the only way

I would describe it,
and I just sense,

you know, that she was
at risk of hurting herself.

[Karen]
Now that we have the dash cam
videos, I can -- I can hear

one of the Canton police
officers say,

"Let's -- let's section her."

Section 12 is a psychiatric hold
that you think the person could

harm themselves.

I'm admitted to the hospital,
and I'm in the ER,

an extension of the ER,
but John's body is just about

two doors away from me.

A couple hours later,
my father comes to get me

out of the hospital.

I was met by one of
the attendants, one of

the medical attendants,
and said, my daughter was,

you know, continuing to ask,
"Is John O'Keefe, is he OK?

Is he dead, what -- what --
you know, what's the status?"

And that medical attendant
said, "We haven't told her.

"Would you like us to tell her?
Would you like to tell her?

Or would you like us
all to go in and tell her?"

I said, "No, I'm her father,
I'll do it."

She was on the edge of the bed,
and when I told her,

I held her, and she slithered
off the bed into my arms
to the floor.

[Karen] He just said,
"He's gone, he's gone."

[Nathan]
She lost it for a little bit,
and then within a pretty short

period of time, she said,
"Dad, what are we gonna do?

What's the plan?"

She doesn't get lost
in the -- in the loss.

She finds a way out of it.

[Karen]
By the time I finally get out
of the hospital, right before

noon, I said, "Dad,
I want to go see the kids."

And we left
and drove to John's.

And John's parents,
his brother,

his father, and his niece were
there, and then his nephew got

dropped off from
a friend's house.

And I hugged his dad
and his niece.

I greeted his brother
and his mother.

And I knew they
had identified the body.

I watched them go in there.

And I said to
his brother, Paul,

I said, "Paul,
what did he look like?

What happened?"

And he said,
"My brother looked like he went

five rounds with Tyson."

And his mother leans over the
kitchen island and says to me,

"I think he looks like
he got hit by a car.

He looks like
he got hit by a car."

I'm like, "Wait a minute,
were you both looking at
the same body?"

After a couple
of minutes, Paul,

his cellphone rang,
and he left the room.

The way he looked at Karen
when he came back in that room,

it was like time stopped.

Oxygen left the room
at that point.

And there was some serious
looks of guilt thrown at Karen

and subsequently
at my father and I.

I could read the room,
and I was not wanted there.

And I looked at my dad, I said,
"I gotta get out of here."

Like, they think I did this.

[Brendan] The folks that cared
most and loved Johnny

are all following the evidence.

Her behavior, in conjunction
with the hard evidence,

in conjunction with
the circumstantial evidence

presented at trial,
points in one direction.

And that is that
Karen Read killed Johnny.

[Karen] They say that I'm
a drunk, vengeful girlfriend,

scorned lover.

But I'm innocent.

I'm being set up,

and these witnesses,

they're all lying.

I just can't wait to get
our shot at these guys.

It's gonna be the game-changer.

[protesters cheering]

[protesters chanting]

This is supposed to be justice
for John O'Keefe

and it has completely become
the Karen Read Show.

They're going to try
to slut her up.

Just a slutty girl
that's a drunk.

The defendant kissed me.

Texts were being read
about an affair.

It felt like the walls were
closing in.

Karen Read had a car that
had a damaged tail light.

Pieces were found
at 34 Fairview.

Astonished faces from the
jurors. They were shocked.

All it would take is for
one rogue to drop it and say

"Guys, we've got something
over here."

♪♪

That's wht you wrote, correct?

Correct.

When you made that first pass
did you see a body?

No.

If there was no body there
at 2:30 in the morning,

the case is over.

The buzz is that today
will be judgement day.

You may now deliberate
your verdict.

Nothing points to anybody
other than Karen.

I'm either going to
be free again...

[crowd chanting]
Free Karen Read!

or I'll be alone
and in prison.

[protesters chanting]
...for John!