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Yes, they only make about
four decent suits for women that
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don't make you look like
Hillary Rodham Clinton,
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and I've got them all,
so now I'm onto dresses.
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[crew speaking]
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[crew 2] Walking out.
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[clapboard clicks]
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I did not drive my car
into John.
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Didn't reverse it.
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Did not hit John with my car.
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There is zero chance
this was an accident.
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There was zero chance
John was hit by a vehicle.
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No, I just, no,
I'm not tired of it.
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I hate answering it because
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I feel like I'm being
so scrutinized, like,
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did she blink
three times or twice?
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And did she like smirk
or look to the right
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or down and up and left
and whatever.
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And, like, it just feels so
fake, even though it's true.
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I'd rather like, explain
everything else.
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And I did not
hit John with my car.
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Like, I can't make it
sincere enough.
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I hate saying it.
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[reporter 1]
Karen Read is accused
of hitting her boyfriend,
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a Boston police officer,
with a car and leaving him
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to die in the snow.
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Was this an accident?
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What do they have against me?
Why am I in shackles right now?
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And then everything shifted
from horrible accident
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to second-degree murder.
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[Ted] For law enforcement,
this is one of their own,
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and that raises the stakes.
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I hit him, I hit him,
I hit him.
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Prosecutors have alleged
she was angry,
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she had been drinking,
she killed him,
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and then she tried
to cover it up.
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-[Adam] Objection.
-[Judge Cannone] I'll let him
have that.
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There's a whole other side
of the story.
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Karen Read was framed.
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There is corruption
in this city.
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[Ted] Phones being destroyed,
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butt dials at
two in the morning.
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The most shocking part is that
not a single witness
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actually saw this happen.
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I am a witness,
and these people are
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terrorizing me.
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[Michael] She's a babe, no ass,
no nudes so far.
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[Alan] "No nudes so far."
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Wow, are you kidding me, dude?
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There were gasps,
there was headshaking.
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All eyes are on this now.
People are following it.
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-[horns beeping]
-[protesters cheering]
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In all my years of practice,
this is the first time
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I've ever shown up to a court
hearing where there are people
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cheering for a defendant.
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[protesters cheering]
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This is not about justice.
This is about spectacle.
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A quite literal
murder carnival.
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It's as though she was
the happiest murder defendant
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in America,
walking a red carpet
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on the way into
her own murder trial.
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Are we not at
a trial for a police officer?
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[Karen] Elle magazine
wants to feature me.
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-Can I do it?
-[Alan] Damn right,
you should do it.
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[Alan] Karen Read is
the face of this case...
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[protesters cheering]
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...but this is so much
bigger than her.
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[Alan] This so-called justice
system here in Massachusetts...
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[protesters] Free Karen Read!
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...will never, ever, ever
be the same after this.
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[orchestral theme music playing]
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[theme music fades]
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My name is Karen Read.
I'm 44 years old.
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I've never been married.
I don't have any kids.
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I don't, like,
envision myself having,
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like, the white picket fence
bullshit, um.
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I've worked in a financial
services company for decades.
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I was a lecturer
at Bentley University.
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Now I'm being charged with
murdering a Boston
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police officer.
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I could face life for
second-degree, life in prison.
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So, as we approach trial,
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I'm moving to a hotel
in Boston.
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It's weird, like you're used to
working all day and...
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having a life and a career
and a routine,
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and then you don't have it,
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and now you're
fighting for your life.
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I still can't believe
what's happening to me.
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[indistinct chatter]
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- Christ our Lord, amen.
-[woman] Amen.
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[women] Very nice, Karen.
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[Karen] I've lived most
of my life in Massachusetts.
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I have a older brother
and a younger sister,
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so I'm in the middle.
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[singing incoherently]
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[Karen] Definitely
the most outgoing.
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[singing]
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[Karen] I've always been
very reactionary, and I guess
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a little maybe impetuous.
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I'm private, but I'm open.
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So when I'm with people,
I'll tell them anything.
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[Karen, archive]
Welcome back to Lifestyles of
the Almost Rich and Famous.
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And I am your host, the lovely,
the beautiful Karen Read.
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[Janet]
When she was a young girl,
she would do plays constantly
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when we'd have like,
if we had cookouts or the pool.
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[Karen, archive]
We're gonna watch Mom.
Everything you do is grand.
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She was, always brought
a lot of fun to -- yeah.
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She's got a great personality,
she really does.
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[William, archive]
Thereโs my darling daughter.
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[William] I was Dean of Business
at Bentley University.
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I did that up until
the time this event transpired.
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My father loved his job so much
and there's an old phrase,
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"You love your job you never
work a day in your life,"
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and that's my dad and, I mean,
my dad's gonna be 76.
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I've just turned 44 and I need
my dad more than ever.
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John died two years,
two months ago,
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and we dated maybe
just shy of two years.
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OK, first thing you need is
the graham crackers.
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Reach into the bag, reach into
the bag, and you pull out
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a set of graham crackers.
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OK, also inside the bag,
if you look, there is some
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chocolate bars.
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Johnny and I grew up together
on the same street.
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We met when we were four.
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I went to the same
nursery school,
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and we went to school,
elementary, junior high,
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high school,
all the way through.
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Stayed close friends during
college, stayed close friends
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when I was moving around
the country for my -- my job.
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Uh, he would visit me
wherever I lived,
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so I knew Johnny
for over 40 years.
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Johnny was from a family of
five, his mom and dad,
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and then his older sister,
Kristen,
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and he had a little brother,
a younger brother, Paul.
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Anyone that knew Johnny
would say the same things,
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Johnny was
relentlessly generous.
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He was funny.
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I mean, all we ever did
our entire lives growing up
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was laugh.
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He was loyal.
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He was very, very
tight with his family,
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really protective
of his family.
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[Tara]
Johnny and I started dating
when I was around 25 years old.
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We had a big love that evolved
into a friendship that lasted
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a really long time.
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He was just a really sweet,
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dependable, reliable,
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honest guy -- very loyal,
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selfless.
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[John Jackson]
I met Johnny in college.
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We went to
Northeastern together.
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He was always gonna be
a cop, and he went to school
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for criminal justice.
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His grandfather was a cop,
and he just, it was always
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just, it was never a question.
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From what I hear on the job,
he was a great cop, you know.
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This is Johnny's badge
number, 2490.
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His grandfather,
also John O'Keefe,
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his badge number was 490.
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So when he became
a police officer,
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he requested that badge number,
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but they had retired it.
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So he added a two.
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So, in honor of Johnny,
we wear his badge number
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everywhere, his friends and his
family, just to try to help
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keep his legacy alive.
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Nine years prior to John's
death, Johnny's sister Kristen,
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we call her Kristy,
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Kristy was diagnosed
with a brain tumor.
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She fought hard,
but she -- she passed
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fairly quickly, I think it was
five months, she was young.
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Johnny was devastated.
They were very close.
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And then his brother-in-law
died of a heart attack
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almost two months to the day
that Christy died,
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like one day off,
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and they had two children.
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[Brendan] John, he entered
a very difficult situation.
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He has this niece and nephew
that just lost
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both of their parents.
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And he said,
"I'm taking the kids."
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He said, "I think
my sister would like it.
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"I think she'd be proud of me.
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I'm super close to the kids
anyway, and I want to do this."
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There was never a question
for Johnny, it was never like,
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"Oh, should I or could I?
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I have all this other stuff
I have to do."
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It was just -- just did it.
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He assumed that role
rather seamlessly.
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They needed somebody to be
there, and he was there,
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always there.
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He loved them
with all of his heart.
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I think that's what guided
all of his decisions.
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I think, I think he, you know,
he -- if he had kids
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of his own, he would have been
an unbelievable dad.
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[Karen] I met John
in February of 2004,
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through a friend of his
from high school.
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And we maybe dated another
couple of weeks after that.
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And then I went to work
that spring in Ireland,
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just temporarily,
but because of that I --
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I stopped seeing him,
and I just lost touch.
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Then, at the beginning of
the pandemic, I'd been home
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working remote for about two
weeks and was going stir-crazy.
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And I hadn't been
on Facebook in years.
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[John Jackson]
Johnny's a single dad,
and, you know,
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everything's going in lockdown,
so from what I understand,
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he put out a Facebook message
to several ex-girlfriends,
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and she was the one to reply.
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[Karen]
I didn't answer right away,
because it was like a picture
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of him with a bunch of kids.
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I thought, oh, he looks like
he's married and he's got
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kids, and then I ended up
reaching back out to him,
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and then I learned
the backstory of where these
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kids came from.
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I knew John for only two years,
but I knew a lot about him.
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He loved life.
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There were things
he liked to do.
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There were things
that made him laugh and smile,
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and songs he liked, and Red Sox
games he liked to tune into.
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And John loved his sister
more than anyone or anything.
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And he loved those kids.
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I didn't really aspire
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to have kids,
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but I cared about John's kids.
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Prior to Johnny's death,
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everybody in Johnny's orbit
liked Karen.
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There wasn't a single person
that said,
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"You know, I don't think
he should be dating her."
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Everything we could see
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looked like
a happy relationship.
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But the key to that is that
you don't know what happens
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behind closed doors.
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[Karen speaking, archived]
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This is my version
of testifying.
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Doing this film
is my -- my testimony.
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This has happened to me,
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and, you know, I -- I know what
happened between John and me.
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I know what happened in our life
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and time spent together
before then.
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I know the events of
that morning.
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I know what I said.
I know what I didn't say.
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And I haven't
been able to -- to say it.
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It's incredibly frustrating.
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I want to say what happened
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exactly as it happened.
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John and I argued the morning
of the 28th, Friday morning.
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Most of our arguments
were about his kids,
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and that he thought
I spoiled them.
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And I thought it was a real
low blow of him to get on me
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for that -- it pissed me off.
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And I said, "I -- I gotta
get out of here for a minute."
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So I came down here
to my house in Mansfield,
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sat in the other room,
and I worked remote all day.
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[meteorologist]
Forecasters anticipate Boston
will experience one of
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the biggest single-day
snow totals on record.
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[Karen]
That day, everyone was getting
ready for this massive blizzard,
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but I realized I didn't want to
be shut in here with the snow.
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I'd rather be up there
with John and the kids,
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and doing something fun.
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And we always had fun
on the weekends.
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[phone ringing]
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And then, at about 6 p.m.,
either I called my father
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or he called me, and he said,
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"How was your day?
What are you up to?"
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And I told him what happened,
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and I hated complaining about
John to my parents
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because they liked him a lot.
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And my father just said gently
to me, "Karen, why don't
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you stay home tonight?
It's gonna snow."
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But I didn't.
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Dad, if I'd listened to you,
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none of this
would have happened.
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I think I left here in
Mansfield at 8:30, and I met
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John at a bar in Canton,
C.F. McCarthy's, at 9:00.
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And then we went to
the Waterfall,
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right next door to McCarthy's.
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At the Waterfall,
it was Jen and Matt McCabe.
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We saw Jen McCabe all the time.
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She coached John's niece's
basketball team, so we saw
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her two or three times a week.
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And then
Brian and Nicole Albert
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and Brian Higgins were there.
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The previous weekend, I had met
the Alberts for the first time
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with the McCabes,
and then it was getting late,
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and John said, "Jen just
invited us to the Alberts'."
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And my attitude always when
I was out and about with John
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was, you know, he's gotta
blow off steam.
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It suits us all if John
blows off a little steam,
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because he always has steam.
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Uh, so I said, "Sure, let's go.
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This can't last forever, right?"
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Everybody was some level
of intoxication.
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That was what we did in Canton.
Everybody drank.
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They leave these bars,
they're in their little
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enclaves where they can all go
drunk driving on the way home,
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and nobody gets pulled over.
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So I'm driving, and John got on
the phone with Jen,
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and he's telling me
it's 34 Fairview.
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And we arrive at 34 Fairview.
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It didn't look like there was
any soiree going on.
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It didn't look inviting.
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The outside was dark,
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and I didn't see
any familiar-looking vehicles.
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And I said, "John, can you
make sure we're welcome?"
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He said, "I'll run in."
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So when John got out of the car
at Brian Albert's house,
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he took my full vodka soda,
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which is sitting in the --
in the cup holder,
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and he walked up the driveway.
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And John always walked,
kind of skipped and walked
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at the same time.
He was always in a rush.
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And I saw him reach
the breezeway door,
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which is the second,
the side front door.
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And he opened the door
and went to walk in.
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And I waited probably a minute
and he doesn't come.
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And it only took like
two or three minutes, that,
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for -- for me to be irritated.
So I started -- I called him.
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I didn't want to wait for him
to respond to a text,
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and he didn't answer.
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I said, "You've gotta be
[bleep] kidding me.
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"What are you doing?
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"You just went in
and I'm sitting here.
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"Um, either we're welcome or
we're not, but it shouldn't take
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you five minutes to --
to determine that."
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And then about 10 minutes
went by, and I...
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I left, and I was not happy.
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[Karen speaking, archived]
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And little did I know,
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John was not
getting my phone calls.
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And then that was it.
The last I ever talked to him
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was when he got out of my car
at Brian Albert's house.
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[reporter 2]
Boston Police Officer
John O'Keefe, a veteran with
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the department, was found
face up in the snow
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on Saturday morning during
the blizzard on Fairview Road
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in Canton around 6 a.m.
He later died...
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What happened that morning
was on a local news program.
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And on the morning of,
uh, January 29th, 2022,
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I got a call from, uh, another
close friend saying that
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Johnny had died.
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[John Jackson] Johnny?
Like, what?
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Not John.
Like, John, well, how, how?
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Like...
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you know, he was --
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uh, I'm stunned.
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Just stunned.
Um, devastated.
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[Tara]
I was just in utter disbelief.
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I was screaming, like,
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"Please God,
not John O'Keefe, not John."
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All I could think about
was the children,
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and Paul, and Peg, and Papa.
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I still can barely believe it.
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They don't make people like
that anymore, you know?
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Sorry, I can't.
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My daughter is, uh,
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was one of
Johnny's godchildren.
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And so my -- my oldest,
I had to tell her.
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So that was rough.
That was rough.
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We had no detail.
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At that point, I immediately
called Johnny's brother, Paul,
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and Paul started to
fill in some of the gaps.
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I think the very first
explanation that I got was that
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Karen had hit John
with her car.
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[John Jackson]
When Brendan called me,
we both went, "Wait, what?
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Did she do this?
Did she do this?"
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He's like, "I don't know yet,
but it looks that way."
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Everybody liked Karen,
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and everything changed on
the morning of January 29th.
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[reporter 3]
Karen Read left the courthouse
after posting bail,
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charged with
hitting her boyfriend,
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Boston Police Officer
John O'Keefe,
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with her SUV
early Saturday morning.
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Suddenly, John's death was on
the six o'clock local news.
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[Jennifer]
They had somebody saying that
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Karen Read hit John O'Keefe
in her SUV.
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The wounds that he suffered
were commensurate with what
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EMT said was being hit by
a blunt object, the vehicle.
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Everything you're seeing there
is presenting
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as a motor vehicle accident,
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that she hit him,
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and left him
to die in the snow.
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Just three days after John
died, they arrested me here,
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literally where
I'm sitting right now.
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This is my dining room
at my house.
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They had already seized
my vehicle and my cell phone,
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so I knew I was a suspect.
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And I wasn't hearing about
anybody else being a suspect,
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so I -- I knew they were
coming for me.
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It was about 7:45 at night,
I was on the phone,
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and I heard a bunch of car doors
shut at the same time.
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And I looked out,
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and they brought about
a dozen cops.
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It was like a SWAT team.
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I was being charged with
vehicular manslaughter.
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My wife gets all
the notifications on her phone
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for everything, and I heard
her kind of gasp,
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and I said, "What?"
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And she goes,
"Your sister's been arrested."
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It felt so surreal to see
your sister paraded in front of
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cameras in handcuffs
and being made to look like
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the worst person on the planet.
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[Karen]
I remember it all perfectly.
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I remember being in jail,
I remember the hearing,
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the cameras, my parents,
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00:20:33,100 --> 00:20:35,266
and I remember the statement
of the case.
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I was just...
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00:20:37,100 --> 00:20:39,166
dying to know, "What do
they have against me?
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Why am I in shackles
right now?"
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I felt embarrassed
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00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:48,667
for the position I was in,
and I wanted to get back to
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my home base and figure out what
the hell was going on.
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[Tara] When I first heard
an explanation about how
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Johnny died, it was that
Karen Read was driving drunk.
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And she had hit John
with her car,
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and she was arrested.
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And I thought, "Well, that's
a simple open-shut case."
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I figured she was remorseful.
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I figured...
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she must be devastated
at what she had done,
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like, she was just gonna
fall on the sword,
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and it was not
that complicated.
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I had no idea just how out of
hand things were about to get,
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and still had no idea just how
big things were gonna be.
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[siren wailing]
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When John was killed,
David Yannetti is the first
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and only call I made
for local counsel.
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So he's been with me
from the beginning.
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00:21:49,333 --> 00:21:50,467
Then he went on TV.
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00:21:50,467 --> 00:21:52,367
This is a defensible case.
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00:21:52,367 --> 00:21:56,367
I will tell you that my client
has no criminal intent.
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She loved this man.
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I've had my own firm
since 1999.
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Before that, I was
an assistant district attorney,
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a prosecutor, and I spent
the majority of my time there
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investigating and prosecuting
homicides.
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00:22:11,166 --> 00:22:17,066
When I heard that an officer
was killed, I knew that there's
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00:22:17,233 --> 00:22:20,333
a heightened
sense of importance
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that is given to those cases.
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00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:25,467
Even if prosecutors thought
that they had a case that
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they couldn't prove,
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00:22:27,033 --> 00:22:29,467
they were not gonna
let this one go.
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00:22:29,634 --> 00:22:35,333
It became clear that this was
going to require a lot of work.
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So somebody else would have
to be brought in.
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[Karen] So I called Harvard's
Criminal Justice Institute,
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and a professor
got on the call, and he said,
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00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:48,333
"You need to look
into the Kevin Spacey case,
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00:22:48,500 --> 00:22:51,367
look into the attorneys, maybe
you can get some help there."
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00:22:51,367 --> 00:22:54,266
And long-story-longer,
that's how I found Alan Jackson
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and Liza Little.
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00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:56,900
[airport PA]
Good afternoon, customers.
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If you just arrived
on flight 288 from Los Angeles,
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your bags are being offloaded
on carousel number seven.
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Welcome to Boston.
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[Alan] Youโre good?
All right, letโs do this.
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My name is Alan Jackson.
I'm an attorney in Los Angeles.
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I got an email, and, uh,
the subject line of the email
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was something along the lines of
"murder of a Boston cop."
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I took one look at one of the
autopsy photos of John O'Keefe,
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and I saw his arm, and I said,
"Are you kidding me?"
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He was hit by a car?"
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00:23:33,867 --> 00:23:36,367
And I actually remember Alan
calling me into his office
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00:23:36,367 --> 00:23:37,667
and saying,
"Liza, you gotta read this.
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You'll like this case."
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00:23:39,500 --> 00:23:40,767
[Alan] Let's call Karen Read.
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The motions that we really need
to put some effort into have
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not been done yet.
-[Karen] Mm-hmm.
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You know, police misconduct
and, and --
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[Liza] Alan and I have been
working together for
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almost nine years now.
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00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,000
We've both worked on
the Spacey case,
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00:23:56,967 --> 00:23:59,934
and we've done several big
murder trials in Los Angeles.
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00:24:01,467 --> 00:24:03,133
[Alan] I do want to see
the war room, though.
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00:24:03,300 --> 00:24:04,333
Can you meet us down there?
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00:24:04,500 --> 00:24:05,867
[Karen] Right.
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00:24:10,367 --> 00:24:12,867
Nice, nice, nice, nice.
This is perfect.
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00:24:13,033 --> 00:24:14,967
Where are our boxes?
Oh, shit.
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00:24:15,133 --> 00:24:16,567
In this little corner.
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00:24:16,734 --> 00:24:19,834
[Alan] Oh, my god.
Um, Karen, do me a favor?
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00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,166
-[Karen] No.
-And just unpack all this shit.
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00:24:22,166 --> 00:24:24,333
-I knew you were gonna say that.
-[laughing]
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00:24:24,500 --> 00:24:26,567
That's why I said no.
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00:24:26,567 --> 00:24:27,767
We're right on the cusp
of the trial.
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00:24:27,934 --> 00:24:29,867
Uh, it's gonna start
in a couple weeks.
481
00:24:30,033 --> 00:24:31,867
Most of this is just for
the courtroom, right?
482
00:24:32,033 --> 00:24:35,266
-[Liza] So there's three
sets of witnesses --
-No, no, no, no.
483
00:24:35,433 --> 00:24:38,367
[Karen] I'm on trial for my life
right now, but I'm not...
484
00:24:39,367 --> 00:24:44,433
afraid of whatever emotional
or mental hurdles
485
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,467
I know I will be facing
in the next two months.
486
00:24:47,467 --> 00:24:49,266
I know I'm innocent.
487
00:24:49,433 --> 00:24:50,567
[Alan] I like it.
488
00:24:50,734 --> 00:24:52,533
Um, welcome home.
489
00:24:54,266 --> 00:24:58,367
In this case, everybody has
an opinion, and it's binary.
490
00:24:58,533 --> 00:25:01,367
Either you think that
she did it,
491
00:25:01,533 --> 00:25:04,734
backed into her boyfriend
with her SUV,
492
00:25:04,900 --> 00:25:08,166
and there he lay,
and tragically he passed away.
493
00:25:08,166 --> 00:25:11,667
Or you think, "Wait a minute,
something doesn't sound right
494
00:25:11,834 --> 00:25:13,834
about that -- none of
the evidence fits."
495
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:15,367
Evidence was missed,
496
00:25:16,367 --> 00:25:19,367
bizarrely missed,
and then later found.
497
00:25:19,533 --> 00:25:24,333
There are two conflicting,
contrasting theories,
498
00:25:24,500 --> 00:25:28,233
and the public doesn't
have an answer yet.
499
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:32,266
So it's sort of
a classic "whodunit."
500
00:25:34,233 --> 00:25:37,166
[Alan] We need to look deeper
at what actually happened
501
00:25:37,166 --> 00:25:38,934
to John O'Keefe.
502
00:25:42,934 --> 00:25:46,233
[Karen]
The day after this happened,
the day after John was killed,
503
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:49,767
I was confused and bewildered.
504
00:25:49,934 --> 00:25:52,934
There was no memory
of anything happening,
505
00:25:53,100 --> 00:25:55,166
but I had been drinking,
and it was late.
506
00:25:55,166 --> 00:25:57,667
I never heard from him
again, ever,
507
00:25:57,834 --> 00:25:59,367
um, obviously.
508
00:25:59,367 --> 00:26:02,467
So I thought,
"Could I have run him over?
509
00:26:02,634 --> 00:26:05,233
Did he try to get me as I was
leaving, and I didn't know it?"
510
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:06,834
I mean, I've always got
the music blasting.
511
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,433
It's snowing.
I got the wipers going,
the heater blasting.
512
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,567
Did he come and hit the back
of my car, and I...
513
00:26:12,567 --> 00:26:16,066
hit him in the knee,
and he was drunk and passed out
514
00:26:16,233 --> 00:26:17,667
and asphyxiated or something?
515
00:26:17,834 --> 00:26:20,433
And then,
when I hired David Yannetti,
516
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,433
I asked him those questions
the night of January 29th.
517
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,100
Like, "David, what if,
I don't know, what if I ran his
518
00:26:26,266 --> 00:26:28,467
"foot over or what if
519
00:26:28,467 --> 00:26:31,467
"I clipped him in the knee
and he passed out
520
00:26:31,634 --> 00:26:33,033
"and, or went to
521
00:26:34,166 --> 00:26:36,667
care for himself
and he threw up or passed out?"
522
00:26:36,667 --> 00:26:39,467
And David said, "Yeah, then you
have some element
of culpability."
523
00:26:39,467 --> 00:26:45,867
So that's how I thought about
things for about three days.
524
00:26:46,033 --> 00:26:50,266
[David]
I'm looking at a police report
that says that she accidentally
525
00:26:50,266 --> 00:26:51,867
hit her boyfriend with a car.
526
00:26:52,033 --> 00:26:55,567
And based on what she said,
my thoughts were,
527
00:26:55,567 --> 00:26:59,000
"This is a district court
motor vehicle homicide case."
528
00:26:59,166 --> 00:27:00,500
Stakes are much lower,
529
00:27:00,500 --> 00:27:03,266
but of course, the case became
much more than that after that.
530
00:27:03,433 --> 00:27:05,533
[bagpipes playing]
531
00:27:07,767 --> 00:27:09,467
[reporter 4] Hundreds gathering
to pay tribute to
532
00:27:09,634 --> 00:27:11,667
Boston Police Officer
John O'Keefe.
533
00:27:11,667 --> 00:27:15,166
His wake held Sunday at
St. Francis of Assisi Church
534
00:27:15,333 --> 00:27:16,700
in Braintree.
535
00:27:17,634 --> 00:27:21,967
[Tara]
I remember it was a really
raw day -- it was cold out.
536
00:27:22,133 --> 00:27:25,033
And the media was kind of
swirling again everywhere,
537
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:28,166
and hundreds of people
were waiting in line patiently.
538
00:27:30,033 --> 00:27:33,967
[Brendan]
The pallbearers, we were
situated on the inside of
539
00:27:34,133 --> 00:27:36,467
the front door of
St. Francis Church,
540
00:27:36,467 --> 00:27:38,333
and we could hear a bagpipe.
541
00:27:39,834 --> 00:27:42,467
And we were instructed that
the hearse had arrived.
542
00:27:42,634 --> 00:27:47,867
And when we opened the large
church doors and saw,
543
00:27:47,867 --> 00:27:49,634
it wasn't one bagpipe,
544
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,433
it was 50 bagpipers
545
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:56,266
and hundreds of police
in formation.
546
00:27:56,433 --> 00:27:58,233
[bagpipes playing]
547
00:27:59,533 --> 00:28:02,333
[Brendan]
And there were a handful
of local Boston news outlets
548
00:28:02,500 --> 00:28:03,734
covering the memorial.
549
00:28:04,934 --> 00:28:06,300
Support was overwhelming.
550
00:28:08,767 --> 00:28:10,467
It was surreal
carrying his casket.
551
00:28:10,467 --> 00:28:13,433
Just to think that,
you know, years earlier,
552
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,767
he was in my wedding party,
and here was this
553
00:28:16,934 --> 00:28:19,166
friend of 40 years that
554
00:28:20,967 --> 00:28:23,367
was always there.
555
00:28:23,367 --> 00:28:24,867
He was just always there.
556
00:28:25,033 --> 00:28:26,567
He was part of my life.
557
00:28:28,767 --> 00:28:31,533
I was just trying to process
how that...
558
00:28:34,033 --> 00:28:35,166
it just changed.
559
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:41,634
[Tara] Part of the highway
was closed down.
560
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:43,934
Like, the city shut down for
John O'Keefe's funeral.
561
00:28:45,467 --> 00:28:46,834
That's an honor, you know?
562
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:48,767
I remember being touched
by that, being on the highway,
563
00:28:48,934 --> 00:28:51,667
and just the highway
being cleared for him.
564
00:28:51,834 --> 00:28:53,433
And then...
565
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:55,734
people were lined up with
their hands on their hearts,
566
00:28:55,900 --> 00:28:57,767
wearing blue ribbons.
567
00:28:57,767 --> 00:29:00,433
It was beautiful -- it was like
his legacy had spread
568
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,667
far and wide already,
569
00:29:02,667 --> 00:29:04,834
even before this
was sensationalized.
570
00:29:06,266 --> 00:29:10,567
I think he would have been
very proud to have earned
571
00:29:10,567 --> 00:29:12,367
that kind of send-off.
572
00:29:17,166 --> 00:29:21,367
[Karen]
As soon as I was arraigned
publicly on February 2nd,
573
00:29:21,533 --> 00:29:24,567
they said there was
a stay-away order
574
00:29:24,734 --> 00:29:27,233
between me and any member
of his family.
575
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,834
So I -- I did not go
to John's funeral
576
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:32,467
or any memorial for John.
577
00:29:32,467 --> 00:29:34,166
I've never been to his grave.
578
00:29:34,333 --> 00:29:37,734
I was really looking forward
just to have this behind me.
579
00:29:39,100 --> 00:29:41,734
New developments tonight in
the case of Karen Read.
580
00:29:41,900 --> 00:29:43,934
A Massachusetts woman
accused in the death
581
00:29:44,100 --> 00:29:46,567
of Boston Police Officer
John O'Keefe.
582
00:29:46,734 --> 00:29:49,166
[Karen] I didn't think I was
gonna get arrested again
583
00:29:49,166 --> 00:29:52,233
for John's death,
but I was wrong.
584
00:29:53,433 --> 00:29:55,367
This nightmare
was just beginning.
585
00:30:02,634 --> 00:30:07,333
After Karen Read was charged
with manslaughter,
586
00:30:07,500 --> 00:30:12,433
the prosecution took the case
to a state grand jury
587
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,934
and presented
second-degree murder,
588
00:30:16,100 --> 00:30:18,066
and that returned an indictment.
589
00:30:18,233 --> 00:30:20,266
The grand jury said,
"Yeah, there is enough evidence
590
00:30:20,433 --> 00:30:23,367
here for this case
to -- to go to trial."
591
00:30:24,533 --> 00:30:29,166
[David] Involuntary manslaughter
is an unintentional killing
592
00:30:29,333 --> 00:30:33,767
that's done as a result
of acting recklessly,
593
00:30:33,934 --> 00:30:35,367
causing the death of another.
594
00:30:35,367 --> 00:30:37,533
Karen's charged with
second-degree murder,
595
00:30:37,700 --> 00:30:40,333
which is essentially murder with
malice of forethought.
596
00:30:41,567 --> 00:30:42,834
And I was floored.
597
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,166
You know, my first thought was,
598
00:30:45,333 --> 00:30:48,100
um, you know, what do they have?
599
00:30:49,166 --> 00:30:50,567
He's a Boston cop.
600
00:30:50,734 --> 00:30:52,734
I mean, that tells you
all you need to know.
601
00:30:52,900 --> 00:30:54,266
The blue wall went up,
602
00:30:54,266 --> 00:30:57,266
and Karen Read's on
the outside of that blue wall.
603
00:30:57,266 --> 00:30:58,667
She's the outsider.
604
00:30:58,667 --> 00:31:00,333
She's the patsy.
605
00:31:02,033 --> 00:31:04,967
[Karen]
I heard the car doors again,
and there they all are again.
606
00:31:05,133 --> 00:31:07,967
Not quite as theatrical as
the first time I was arrested,
607
00:31:08,133 --> 00:31:10,467
but I saw the two
lead detectives,
608
00:31:10,634 --> 00:31:12,266
Trooper Proctor
and Trooper Bukhenik.
609
00:31:12,433 --> 00:31:14,266
At first, I thought
they were here to ask me
610
00:31:14,266 --> 00:31:15,900
questions or something.
611
00:31:18,367 --> 00:31:20,767
When they went around back,
I thought they were gonna
612
00:31:20,934 --> 00:31:23,967
hurt me, because I heard them
say, "Let's do it around back."
613
00:31:24,133 --> 00:31:27,033
And so I'm shaking like a leaf.
614
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:31,467
I opened the door and I said,
"What's going on?"
615
00:31:31,467 --> 00:31:33,133
And they said,
"You're under arrest."
616
00:31:33,300 --> 00:31:35,133
I said, "For what?"
617
00:31:35,300 --> 00:31:36,834
And they said,
"You've been indicted
618
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,467
on second-degree-murder charges,
and you're under arrest."
619
00:31:39,467 --> 00:31:41,266
And they read me my rights.
Again.
620
00:31:41,433 --> 00:31:43,767
And I backed away,
621
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,367
and Trooper Proctor came
and grabbed me and tried to
622
00:31:47,367 --> 00:31:49,667
turn me and get my arm.
623
00:31:49,834 --> 00:31:52,734
And I kept trying to
writhe away from him
624
00:31:52,900 --> 00:31:55,667
because I didn't understand
why I was being arrested.
625
00:32:08,567 --> 00:32:11,767
[Karen] I was upcharged,
so the charges got upgraded from
626
00:32:11,934 --> 00:32:14,000
vehicular manslaughter
to second-degree murder,
627
00:32:14,166 --> 00:32:16,533
which means
there's an element of intent
628
00:32:16,700 --> 00:32:19,467
that I knew what I was doing,
it wasn't an accident.
629
00:32:21,734 --> 00:32:25,867
[David]
Second-degree murder carries
a life-in-prison sentence.
630
00:32:25,867 --> 00:32:27,867
You would be
eligible for parole,
631
00:32:27,867 --> 00:32:30,066
but there's no guarantee
that you'd make parole.
632
00:32:30,233 --> 00:32:31,333
It's a life sentence.
633
00:32:31,500 --> 00:32:33,834
I mean, 10 years or life
at this point
634
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:35,166
feels the same to me.
635
00:32:35,333 --> 00:32:37,967
I've spent two -- two nights,
two days in prison,
636
00:32:38,133 --> 00:32:39,634
and it felt like an eternity.
637
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:44,066
So you could lock me up for
six months, and I'd,
638
00:32:44,233 --> 00:32:47,533
at the -- at the outset,
it would feel like a lifetime.
639
00:32:47,700 --> 00:32:51,433
I mean, I'm 44 years old,
so...
640
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,133
20, 30, 40, uh...
641
00:32:54,300 --> 00:32:56,266
it's the rest of my...
642
00:32:56,433 --> 00:32:57,734
productive life.
643
00:32:58,767 --> 00:33:00,433
There's an arrest warrant
issued for you.
644
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:02,767
[Karen] I was cuffed by Proctor.
645
00:33:02,934 --> 00:33:07,867
I had on boxer shorts,
no underpants, a tank top,
646
00:33:08,033 --> 00:33:10,333
and I had thrown a cardigan on
it when I heard them out front,
647
00:33:10,500 --> 00:33:11,734
and I had on my slippers.
648
00:33:11,900 --> 00:33:12,867
We're gonna
take care of it.
649
00:33:49,333 --> 00:33:51,133
I was taken in the cruiser,
650
00:33:51,300 --> 00:33:54,767
up to the barracks again,
booked again.
651
00:33:59,166 --> 00:34:02,734
I knew I was gonna be
paraded around again.
652
00:34:02,900 --> 00:34:03,967
It's scary.
653
00:34:04,133 --> 00:34:07,533
I'm in a completely
vulnerable position here,
654
00:34:07,700 --> 00:34:09,767
so your -- your mind just races.
655
00:34:09,934 --> 00:34:13,100
They're about to lock you up,
and they think
656
00:34:13,266 --> 00:34:14,767
you're a murderer.
657
00:34:14,767 --> 00:34:18,767
That -- that's when I realized
this was for keeps.
658
00:34:18,767 --> 00:34:21,767
They wanted a pound of
flesh for me.
659
00:34:47,066 --> 00:34:49,467
[Karen] The second night was
much, much worse in jail
660
00:34:49,467 --> 00:34:51,333
than the first,
661
00:34:51,500 --> 00:34:55,367
because I started to think
I wasn't going home again.
662
00:34:55,367 --> 00:34:58,233
So that night was one of
the worst in my life.
663
00:35:10,166 --> 00:35:13,033
[David] The first time
Karen was arrested,
664
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:18,533
I remember going back to
my home office that afternoon
665
00:35:18,700 --> 00:35:21,133
and my paralegal told me that
666
00:35:21,300 --> 00:35:24,066
a guy named Mike had called
the office and he has
667
00:35:24,233 --> 00:35:26,233
important information for me.
668
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:27,667
I called him back
669
00:35:27,834 --> 00:35:30,233
and I -- I have a memory
of sitting at my desk
670
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,266
at home in my office.
671
00:35:32,433 --> 00:35:35,367
And, you know,
he had a gravelly voice,
672
00:35:35,367 --> 00:35:39,867
and, you know, it was like
a "holy smokes" moment
673
00:35:40,033 --> 00:35:42,834
because he said that
674
00:35:43,967 --> 00:35:49,033
perhaps someone else caused
the death of John O'Keefe.
675
00:35:54,734 --> 00:35:57,567
Very early on in the case, it
was just the fog of war, right.
676
00:35:57,734 --> 00:35:58,967
David didn't know what
he was dealing with.
677
00:35:59,133 --> 00:36:00,166
He came -- comes in
on this case,
678
00:36:00,166 --> 00:36:01,667
he had never met Karen before.
679
00:36:01,667 --> 00:36:04,667
She's accused of hitting
this guy, a cop, with her car,
680
00:36:04,667 --> 00:36:08,066
and he ends up dying,
and David is standing there
681
00:36:08,233 --> 00:36:10,100
with his hands out, going,
"I -- I wonder what happened.
682
00:36:10,266 --> 00:36:11,900
I need some evidence.
I don't have anything."
683
00:36:14,367 --> 00:36:17,166
But then he got a call
at his office,
684
00:36:17,333 --> 00:36:18,734
and this person said
685
00:36:19,634 --> 00:36:22,834
in almost whispered tones,
686
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:26,433
"You need to look at the folks
inside 34 Fairview."
687
00:36:28,266 --> 00:36:31,934
You need to look really hard
at the homeowners.
688
00:36:32,100 --> 00:36:34,667
You need to look really hard at
the occupants of the house.
689
00:36:36,367 --> 00:36:39,467
Something here is
more than meets the eye.
690
00:36:41,100 --> 00:36:45,166
[David]
We didn't have any inkling that
there might have been somebody
691
00:36:45,166 --> 00:36:47,266
else out there who did it.
692
00:36:47,266 --> 00:36:50,567
So, you know, it -- it was
a turning point.
693
00:36:52,166 --> 00:36:54,233
I called him into my office,
694
00:36:55,367 --> 00:36:58,533
and he came and sat with
my investigator and me.
695
00:36:58,700 --> 00:37:01,567
And, you know, it didn't really
696
00:37:01,567 --> 00:37:04,467
go anywhere with him
beyond that.
697
00:37:04,634 --> 00:37:08,133
It's not like he was a witness
or that we could use him,
698
00:37:08,300 --> 00:37:13,133
but that tip was invaluable
because it sent us
699
00:37:13,300 --> 00:37:19,000
in a different direction very
early on in this investigation.
700
00:37:19,166 --> 00:37:23,634
Had that tipster never provided
that information, I'm not sure
701
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,934
if we'd necessarily be here.
702
00:37:27,100 --> 00:37:30,567
Because initially,
David was saying
703
00:37:30,567 --> 00:37:33,133
something to the effect of
it was a bad accident
704
00:37:33,300 --> 00:37:35,934
and she's not criminally liable.
705
00:37:36,100 --> 00:37:37,734
But then, after this tipster,
706
00:37:37,900 --> 00:37:40,166
we start seeing the new defense,
707
00:37:40,166 --> 00:37:43,433
which is they're saying
Karen Read's been framed.
708
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:45,667
[reporter 5]
The defense says that Read did
not hit O'Keefe,
709
00:37:45,834 --> 00:37:48,433
but that he was actually
beaten inside of the home,
710
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,133
and that his body
was later dumped outside.
711
00:37:51,300 --> 00:37:53,667
It feels we're the only ones
fighting for the truth of what
712
00:37:53,667 --> 00:37:54,867
happened to John O'Keefe.
713
00:37:55,033 --> 00:37:56,767
[reporter] Karen, just to
be clear, you didn't do it.
714
00:37:58,033 --> 00:38:00,266
We know who did it, Steve.
We know.
715
00:38:00,266 --> 00:38:02,634
And we know who spearheaded
this cover-up.
716
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:04,266
-You all know.
-[man] Yes, we do.
717
00:38:04,433 --> 00:38:07,266
And no, she didn't do it.
No, she didn't do it.
718
00:38:07,266 --> 00:38:09,000
This is an innocent woman.
-[cheering]
719
00:38:09,166 --> 00:38:12,934
[Vinnie] The defense has
an alternative story
720
00:38:13,100 --> 00:38:14,166
about what happened here.
721
00:38:14,333 --> 00:38:16,467
There's an alleged police
cover-up here.
722
00:38:16,634 --> 00:38:19,834
John O'Keefe went inside that
house, and the allegation
723
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:21,367
is that something happened
in there.
724
00:38:21,367 --> 00:38:22,934
-Who do you think did it?
-Well, certainly
725
00:38:23,100 --> 00:38:25,467
the Massachusetts State Police
is involved.
726
00:38:25,467 --> 00:38:28,033
[Liza]
There are people that were in
that house that are involved.
727
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:31,467
Brian Albert is involved.
Jennifer McCabe is involved.
728
00:38:31,467 --> 00:38:33,367
The rest of the folks
that were in that house.
729
00:38:33,367 --> 00:38:37,000
There's some level of
involvement by everyone on it.
730
00:38:37,166 --> 00:38:41,033
[Liza]
The people in the house that
night included Brian Albert,
731
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:44,567
the owner of the home,
and Brian Higgins.
732
00:38:44,734 --> 00:38:47,734
Brian Albert is
a Boston police officer.
733
00:38:47,900 --> 00:38:49,767
He's the head of
the fugitive unit.
734
00:38:49,934 --> 00:38:54,667
Brian Higgins is a federal
ATF agent and friends
735
00:38:54,834 --> 00:38:58,166
with the chief of police of
the Canton Police Department.
736
00:38:58,333 --> 00:39:00,166
This all happened
outside of the home
737
00:39:00,166 --> 00:39:01,967
of a Boston police officer.
738
00:39:02,133 --> 00:39:05,667
And so, for the first two years
of this case, we knew something
739
00:39:05,667 --> 00:39:08,367
wasn't right, and we were
fighting tooth and nail to try
740
00:39:08,367 --> 00:39:11,867
to get access to cell phone
data, electronic information
741
00:39:11,867 --> 00:39:13,634
that we knew was the key
to this case.
742
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:15,367
You can't prove a conspiracy
743
00:39:15,533 --> 00:39:18,000
by just asking tough questions
of witnesses.
744
00:39:18,166 --> 00:39:20,100
You have to have the data
to back that up.
745
00:39:20,266 --> 00:39:22,867
One of the things that we've
tried extraordinarily
746
00:39:22,867 --> 00:39:24,233
hard in this case to do is to
747
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:26,567
uncover all of
the electronic communications.
748
00:39:26,567 --> 00:39:28,266
How do you prove a conspiracy?
749
00:39:28,433 --> 00:39:30,033
You need to see
people's phones.
750
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:31,867
We live in the 21st century.
751
00:39:32,033 --> 00:39:34,166
That's how conspiracies
are conducted.
752
00:39:34,166 --> 00:39:37,634
And that's one of the things
that Alan and I had actually
753
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,667
had previous success on
in the Spacey case.
754
00:39:40,667 --> 00:39:43,166
[Alan] The prosecution
did an extraction
755
00:39:43,166 --> 00:39:44,367
of Jen McCabe's phone.
756
00:39:44,367 --> 00:39:46,367
She was one of the women that
was in the house that night.
757
00:39:46,533 --> 00:39:49,266
She was one of the people
who had suggested that John
758
00:39:49,266 --> 00:39:51,533
come over to the house
that night.
759
00:39:51,700 --> 00:39:55,467
So we hired a computer
forensics expert to look
760
00:39:55,467 --> 00:39:57,266
through her extraction.
761
00:39:57,433 --> 00:39:59,867
And lo and behold,
762
00:40:01,533 --> 00:40:04,000
I'll never forget, I was
standing in this office,
763
00:40:04,166 --> 00:40:06,934
and I get a call,
and our computer forensics guy,
764
00:40:07,100 --> 00:40:08,734
he didn't know much
about the case...
765
00:40:11,166 --> 00:40:14,634
didn't know what the timing
was, didn't know what
766
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:18,867
the impact of certain dates
and times were.
767
00:40:18,867 --> 00:40:20,100
Nothing.
768
00:40:20,100 --> 00:40:22,967
And he said, "I just wanted to
tell you, I don't know if this
769
00:40:23,133 --> 00:40:24,667
"means anything to you,
770
00:40:24,834 --> 00:40:27,066
"but in Jennifer McCabe's phone,
771
00:40:27,233 --> 00:40:30,867
there's a Google search for
'how long to die in the cold.'"
772
00:40:31,033 --> 00:40:33,467
She misspelled the word "how,"
spelled it H-O-S.
773
00:40:34,867 --> 00:40:36,000
And I said,
774
00:40:36,634 --> 00:40:37,734
"What?
775
00:40:38,867 --> 00:40:39,967
"Are you sure?
776
00:40:40,333 --> 00:40:42,233
Because that wasn't
in their report."
777
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:43,400
He said, "Yeah, I'm sure."
778
00:40:45,033 --> 00:40:48,834
And he said, "It was at 2:27
and 40 seconds."
779
00:40:50,133 --> 00:40:51,967
"OK.
What date?"
780
00:40:53,166 --> 00:40:54,667
He said, "January 29th."
781
00:40:58,100 --> 00:41:00,667
And I thought,
"This -- this can't be.
782
00:41:00,667 --> 00:41:01,834
This can't be."
783
00:41:01,834 --> 00:41:04,567
Jennifer McCabe, according to
the evidence that we have
784
00:41:04,734 --> 00:41:05,934
from her phone,
785
00:41:07,333 --> 00:41:10,767
Google searched
"how long to die in the cold"
786
00:41:10,767 --> 00:41:13,767
at 2:27 and 40 seconds a.m.,
787
00:41:13,767 --> 00:41:17,734
three and a half hours before
John's body was discovered.
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