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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:30,368 - Rosebud... 2 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:39,885 - Orson Welles: A magician is just an actor. 3 00:00:41,480 --> 00:00:44,361 Just an actor playing the part of a magician. 4 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:29,200 You know, one sunny morning in Kenosha, 5 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:30,720 a chubby little one, you know. 6 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:39,848 - Simon Callow: Welles' family background was complex. 7 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:43,641 His parents broke up when he was about seven, 8 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:47,529 and his mother and he moved to Chicago. 9 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:53,801 She was something of a social reformer 10 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:56,445 and a bit of a cultural figure, too. 11 00:01:57,480 --> 00:01:59,803 - She used to take a long piece of cord, 12 00:01:59,880 --> 00:02:01,288 and she was such a dignified lady 13 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:03,127 that if she would come to the street comer 14 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:05,000 and say to a man, "Will you hold this, please?" 15 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:07,644 And then go around to the other side of the street corner 16 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:09,520 and find somebody and say, 'Would you hold this, please?" 17 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:11,641 And then leave the two men holding the cord. 18 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:14,328 So that was her idea of a fun thing to do. 19 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:18,525 Very tall and handsome, and she was a great beauty. 20 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:22,168 My father lived in Peking for quite a long time, 21 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:23,604 and I spent five or six years there, 22 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:25,360 or the greater part of those years. 23 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:27,121 - His father was a businessman 24 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:30,605 who then went on to become an alcoholic, 25 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:32,284 a ambler, and a womanizer. 26 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:33,768 - He was just a playboy. - 27 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:35,924 He inherited some money, and he spent it. 28 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:38,728 - And in the meantime, his mother had taken up 29 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:42,848 with this Hungarian doctor, Maurice Bernstein, 30 00:02:42,920 --> 00:02:45,320 a sort of- very slippery character. 31 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:48,161 - Simon Callow: Controlling, wheedling, 32 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:51,644 emotionally blackmailing kind of a person. 33 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:55,724 - Mr. Bernstein? - Yes, Mr. Kane. 34 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:58,768 - Mr. Carter, this is Mr. Bernstein. - How do you do? 35 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:00,280 - Mr. Bernstein is my general manager, Mr. Carter. 36 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:01,768 - Chris Welles Feder: When his mother died, 37 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:04,601 he was forced to make him his legal guardian. 38 00:03:04,679 --> 00:03:10,408 - Simon Callow: He was, from the earliest age, formed on, 39 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:14,244 identified as being remarkable and charming. 40 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:17,485 His mother's position was that a child had 41 00:03:17,559 --> 00:03:19,284 to justify themselves in the room. 42 00:03:19,359 --> 00:03:21,040 You had to say something interesting, 43 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:22,648 you had to do something extraordinary, 44 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:25,088 otherwise, you were exiled to the nursery. 45 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:28,161 Welles was not about to spend any time in the nursery. 46 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:30,564 - Orson Welles: I played the violin, and I played the piano, 47 00:03:30,640 --> 00:03:33,880 and there's nothing more hateful on earth. 48 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:35,488 I was one of those. 49 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:36,923 And my mother, 50 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:38,605 who was a professional musician, 51 00:03:38,679 --> 00:03:41,440 died when I was nine- 52 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:43,484 And I stopped playing immediately. 53 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:45,447 As a kid, I was moved around everywhere. 54 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:46,644 I have lots of homes, 55 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:49,601 but I would like to have the one. 56 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:53,680 See, I suppose it's Woodstock, Illinois, 57 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:55,727 if it's anywhere. 58 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:57,448 I went to school there for four years, 59 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:00,728 and if I try to think of the... 60 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:02,163 home, it's that. 61 00:04:08,439 --> 00:04:10,044 - Feder: I think the most exciting thing 62 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:12,040 that ever happened in Skipper's life 63 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:14,640 was the arrival of Orson Welles at his school 64 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:17,481 because he had never seen such a prodigy. 65 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:19,808 - The kids, of course, hated him. 66 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:21,888 - I must have been intolerable as a child. 67 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:23,727 - He didn't want to do anything. 68 00:04:23,799 --> 00:04:26,800 He- he couldn't play athletics, 69 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:28,047 he just was not athletic. 70 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:31,164 He was overweight, even as a kid. 71 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:33,520 Skipper said, "Okay, what we'll do 72 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:34,888 "is have him do what he wants, 73 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:36,607 Was just the Theatre. 74 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:38,928 - I played Mary, the mother of Jesus, 75 00:04:39,039 --> 00:04:41,484 at the age of 13. 76 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:43,960 Yes. Very good in drag. 77 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:49,720 - Joanne Hill Styles: He could talk about China, 78 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:51,447 I think he'd been to China. 79 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:55,084 He could talk about Shakespeare, 80 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:58,049 which- my father's favorite author. 81 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:00,684 And he could talk about the Bible. 82 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:03,008 At 11, he could do all this. 83 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:04,247 It's like... 84 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:08,161 Mozart playing music at four years old, 85 00:05:08,239 --> 00:05:10,400 you can't believe it happens, 86 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:11,768 but it does happen. 87 00:05:13,479 --> 00:05:16,644 But he was without a doubt 88 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:18,804 the only person I know who had 89 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:21,924 absolutely no empathetic skills. 90 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:24,968 I told him just what I thought about him. 91 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:27,288 He looked at me. 92 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:28,964 "Joanne... 93 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:33,241 everybody has their little idiosyncrasies. " 94 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:36,288 This was a very unusual boy. 95 00:05:47,079 --> 00:05:50,964 - Man: This is truly where Orson started his theatrical career. 96 00:05:51,039 --> 00:05:52,720 He was putting on "Twelfth Night," he was putting on 97 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:54,568 a variety of Shakespeare plays 98 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:57,728 when he was a child, and he was Orson. 99 00:05:57,800 --> 00:05:59,447 There's a warmth that I think 100 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:01,648 much of the world never experienced. 101 00:06:01,719 --> 00:06:04,240 - Emcee: So it is a pleasure that we here in the city of Woodstock 102 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:08,281 dedicate this stage to an individual 103 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:11,961 who got it all started. 104 00:06:12,039 --> 00:06:14,287 Even though he was a humble person. 105 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:19,400 - "He made his American debut 106 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:21,040 "as a professional theater director 107 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:24,688 "upon this stage, now named in his honor. -... 108 00:06:24,759 --> 00:06:26,243 the Orson Welles Stage. " 109 00:06:29,439 --> 00:06:31,960 - man: I feel his hand on my shoulder. 110 00:06:32,039 --> 00:06:34,724 - All: "Rosebud!" 111 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:49,243 - Simon Callow: He did a sort of deal with Dr. Bernstein 112 00:06:49,319 --> 00:06:51,687 that he would go to university, 113 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:53,364 but that they would let him go to Ireland 114 00:06:53,439 --> 00:06:55,359 on a painting holiday. 115 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:58,648 That was what he pretended he wanted. 116 00:06:58,720 --> 00:06:59,920 - Orson Welles: I'd come to Ireland 117 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:01,605 and found myself in Dublin 118 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:03,408 without what are technically referred to 119 00:07:03,479 --> 00:07:04,559 as financial resources. 120 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:05,687 Oh, I had a few shillings, 121 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:07,408 but I blew those on a good dinner 122 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:08,604 and a ticket to the theater. 123 00:07:08,679 --> 00:07:10,447 The theater was the Gate- 124 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:13,488 I was 16 years old, my career, as you might say, 125 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:15,164 was at the crossroads. 126 00:07:15,239 --> 00:07:17,760 - I saw this brilliant, not necessarily an actor, 127 00:07:17,839 --> 00:07:20,447 but a brilliant creature of 16 128 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:22,124 telling us he was 19 129 00:07:22,239 --> 00:07:24,520 and telling us he'd had lots of experience, 130 00:07:24,599 --> 00:07:26,519 which was obvious to us he'd had none at all. 131 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:28,248 - And just as- for the fun of it, 132 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:30,807 I'd like to stay with them and play a few leading roles. 133 00:07:30,879 --> 00:07:32,963 They were nice enough to pretend they were fooled, 134 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:35,048 and they were desperate enough for actors. 135 00:07:35,119 --> 00:07:37,847 They gave me a star part. I began as a star. 136 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:41,361 And I've been working my way down slowly ever since. 137 00:07:42,679 --> 00:07:45,200 - Simon Callow: The parts got smaller and smaller and smaller, 138 00:07:45,279 --> 00:07:47,004 and eventually Welles, 139 00:07:47,079 --> 00:07:49,840 after about nine months, left and via London, perhaps, 140 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:53,008 we're not sure about that, went back to America. 141 00:07:53,079 --> 00:07:54,999 Went off again on another trip, 142 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:57,164 and than he came back to Chicago 143 00:07:57,239 --> 00:07:59,727 and felt very much at a loose end. 144 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:04,560 - Joanne Hill Styles: He came to the theatre festival. 145 00:08:04,639 --> 00:08:05,927 That's the last time I knew him, 146 00:08:05,999 --> 00:08:07,560 in the theatre festival. 147 00:08:07,639 --> 00:08:10,204 One of the students, he had a camera, 148 00:08:10,359 --> 00:08:14,080 and it just fascinated Orson. 149 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:17,804 I'm sure this guy was not very knowledgeable, 150 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:19,800 and Orson would tell him what he'd want. 151 00:08:19,879 --> 00:08:21,363 First he'd say, "We don't want it right here, 152 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:23,644 we want you to zoom up," so they'd go this silly way 153 00:08:23,719 --> 00:08:25,564 up and down the stairs. 154 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:29,247 - Orson Welles: It's not a film at all. 155 00:08:29,319 --> 00:08:32,680 It was a little joke one Sunday afternoon. 156 00:08:32,759 --> 00:08:35,007 We'd all seen either Bu�uel or Cocteau 157 00:08:35,079 --> 00:08:36,924 or somebody's surrealist movie. 158 00:08:36,999 --> 00:08:38,363 We said, "Let's make one. " 159 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:40,284 And from 2:00 in the afternoon till 5:00, 160 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:42,967 we shot some dumb stuff. 161 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:55,840 - Feder: My father was married three times. 162 00:08:55,919 --> 00:08:58,320 I was his oldest daughter. 163 00:08:58,399 --> 00:09:01,487 He had a daughter by each of his three wives. 164 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:03,043 My half-sister Rebecca, 165 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:05,084 she was Rita Hayworth's daughter, 166 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:07,320 and then Beatrice was the youngest daughter 167 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:11,600 by Paola Mori, who was an Italian countess. 168 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:13,840 He was not really a family man, you know? 169 00:09:13,919 --> 00:09:17,204 That's not where his head was. 170 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:19,528 His head was entirely in his work, 171 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:22,284 and I think having wives and daughters 172 00:09:22,359 --> 00:09:24,727 was actually an encumbrance for him. 173 00:09:30,759 --> 00:09:34,960 - Welles had picked up a huge amount of knowledge 174 00:09:35,039 --> 00:09:36,119 about stagecraft, 175 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:38,448 added to what he already knew. 176 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:40,003 He plugged into 177 00:09:40,079 --> 00:09:42,207 the absolute latest developments in the theater, 178 00:09:42,279 --> 00:09:43,927 and that meant, above all, expressionism. 179 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,160 A very "now" 180 00:09:46,239 --> 00:09:49,087 and aggressive form of theater. 181 00:09:49,159 --> 00:09:51,440 - He brought, in one word, theatricality. 182 00:09:52,839 --> 00:09:55,927 He united the performance, 183 00:09:55,999 --> 00:09:58,803 the script, the music, 184 00:09:58,879 --> 00:10:01,564 the lights, the sound. 185 00:10:01,639 --> 00:10:03,887 As audience, you had an experience 186 00:10:03,959 --> 00:10:06,240 you had with no other director. 187 00:10:06,319 --> 00:10:10,487 I was six months older than Orson, and I met him 188 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:13,528 in his office with John Houseman 189 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:15,848 who was Orson's partner at that time. 190 00:10:15,919 --> 00:10:17,720 John Houseman had great elegance, 191 00:10:17,799 --> 00:10:19,840 spoke beautifully. 192 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:22,801 He had the one grey flannel suit at the time, 193 00:10:22,879 --> 00:10:25,127 because nobody had any money. 194 00:10:25,199 --> 00:10:27,764 The Federal Theatre was a theater 195 00:10:27,839 --> 00:10:29,520 created by the government, 196 00:10:29,599 --> 00:10:32,284 putting people to work throughout the country. 197 00:10:32,359 --> 00:10:34,279 Orson and Houseman 198 00:10:34,359 --> 00:10:36,083 used it to their advantage 199 00:10:36,159 --> 00:10:37,447 to create a theater. 200 00:10:37,519 --> 00:10:38,720 - Lay on, Macduff! 201 00:10:38,799 --> 00:10:40,808 - Announcer: The Negro Theatre unit of the Federal Theatre Project 202 00:10:40,879 --> 00:10:42,407 produced a highly successful version 203 00:10:42,479 --> 00:10:44,640 of Shakespeares immortal tragedy, "Macbeth. " 204 00:10:44,719 --> 00:10:46,880 - Tyrant, show thy face! 205 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:48,324 - What is thy name? 206 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:55,447 My name is Macbeth. 207 00:10:55,519 --> 00:10:57,199 - Orson Welles: There were so many curtain calls, 208 00:10:57,279 --> 00:11:00,083 that finally they left this curtain open, 209 00:11:00,159 --> 00:11:02,887 and the audience came up on the stage. 210 00:11:02,959 --> 00:11:05,240 That was- that was magical. 211 00:11:07,199 --> 00:11:09,360 - Norman Lloyd: There was thunderous reaction to it 212 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:11,448 in the audience. Thunderous. 213 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:14,164 Except for one critic, 214 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:17,088 a very fine critic, Percy Hammond. 215 00:11:17,159 --> 00:11:20,967 There were two voodoo companies, 216 00:11:21,039 --> 00:11:23,320 and they were gain, "Bom, bom, bom, bom, 217 00:11:23,399 --> 00:11:25,920 Percy Hammond, ham, ham... 218 00:11:25,999 --> 00:11:28,640 Percy Hammond died three days later. 219 00:11:28,719 --> 00:11:30,639 No, sorry, that was rude, 220 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:32,160 I bee your pardon. 221 00:11:32,239 --> 00:11:33,963 - Lloyd: We all left the Federal Theatre 222 00:11:34,039 --> 00:11:35,403 at a given point. 223 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:38,284 Houseman and Welles left because they weren't allowed 224 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:39,767 to do "Cradle Will Rock. " 225 00:11:39,839 --> 00:11:42,688 They formed the Mercury Theater. 226 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:44,800 - Newscaster: In a single year, the first in the life 227 00:11:44,879 --> 00:11:46,080 of the Mercury Theater, 228 00:11:46,159 --> 00:11:47,567 Orson Welles has come to be 229 00:11:47,639 --> 00:11:50,324 the most famous name of our time in American drama. 230 00:11:50,399 --> 00:11:52,767 Time Magazine declares, "The brightest moon 231 00:11:52,839 --> 00:11:54,607 that has risen over Broadway in years. 232 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:57,320 - He was ruthless, tough, disciplined. 233 00:11:57,399 --> 00:11:59,287 - Ruth Ford: We just worked all the time, we worked until 234 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:00,964 2:00 and 3:00 in the morning. 235 00:12:01,039 --> 00:12:03,319 - Julie Taymor: I don't think there are rules for any of that. 236 00:12:03,399 --> 00:12:04,403 If that's what he needed, 237 00:12:04,479 --> 00:12:06,007 if that's when his inspiration came 238 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:07,040 and he thought he would get 239 00:12:07,119 --> 00:12:09,039 the best out of his performers... 240 00:12:09,159 --> 00:12:10,480 You know, the crazy thing is 241 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:12,479 it might be fine for him, but if they're dragged 242 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:13,847 out of bed and are exhausted, 243 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:16,320 I'd- they're slaves then, you know what I mean? 244 00:12:16,399 --> 00:12:18,243 - Newscaster: Robert Benchley writes in "The New Yorker, " 245 00:12:18,319 --> 00:12:19,639 The production at the Mercury is, 246 00:12:19,719 --> 00:12:21,040 I should say, just about perfect. 247 00:12:21,119 --> 00:12:23,280 Welles should feel at home in the sky, 248 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:26,044 the only limit which his ambitions recognize. " 249 00:12:32,039 --> 00:12:35,640 - The play made absolutely no sense 250 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:37,040 without the Film. 251 00:12:37,119 --> 00:12:39,083 - The film could not be shown in the theater, 252 00:12:39,159 --> 00:12:41,320 because there was no real projection booth. 253 00:12:41,399 --> 00:12:44,880 - He is an arrogant- - I am Orson Welles! 254 00:12:44,959 --> 00:12:46,203 And every single one of you stands here 255 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:47,568 as an adjunct to my vision. 256 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:49,123 You want a career in the Mercury Theater 257 00:12:49,199 --> 00:12:51,207 and in everything else I plan to do? 258 00:12:51,279 --> 00:12:53,079 Then remember one simple rule. 259 00:12:53,159 --> 00:12:54,883 I own the store. 260 00:12:54,959 --> 00:12:56,639 - Newscaster: The Columbia Network is proud to give 261 00:12:56,719 --> 00:12:58,366 Orson Welles the opportunity 262 00:12:58,439 --> 00:13:00,448 to bring to the air those same qualities 263 00:13:00,519 --> 00:13:03,281 of vitality and imagination that have made him 264 00:13:03,359 --> 00:13:04,920 the most talked-of theatrical director 265 00:13:04,999 --> 00:13:06,560 in America today. 266 00:13:06,639 --> 00:13:08,920 - Good evening, this is Orson Welles, 267 00:13:08,999 --> 00:13:10,407 inviting you to listen now 268 00:13:10,479 --> 00:13:13,207 to one of the strangest stories ever told. 269 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:16,204 I'd been contributing from my radio salary. 270 00:13:16,279 --> 00:13:18,680 I kept putting $1,000 or so every week, 271 00:13:18,759 --> 00:13:21,083 and we got all our plays on before anybody else 272 00:13:21,159 --> 00:13:23,167 because I was doing radio all day long. 273 00:13:23,239 --> 00:13:25,640 You out there! Look down! 274 00:13:25,719 --> 00:13:27,280 Behold! 275 00:13:27,359 --> 00:13:31,320 - Sound is the... 276 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:35,721 first stirring of the infant. 277 00:13:35,799 --> 00:13:39,246 Sounds have a romance. 278 00:13:39,319 --> 00:13:41,480 Radio was a Medium, 279 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:46,043 which employed that magic. 280 00:13:46,119 --> 00:13:47,679 - Man: I don't like that literature of yours going out 281 00:13:47,759 --> 00:13:49,679 all over the country with my town's postmark on it. 282 00:13:49,759 --> 00:13:51,484 I don't like it to be a return address 283 00:13:51,560 --> 00:13:53,524 for all that anti-Semitic garbage. 284 00:13:53,599 --> 00:13:54,767 - He'd never rehearse. 285 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:56,007 He'd walk in, and they'd say, 286 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:57,368 "Chinaman, 85 years old. " 287 00:13:57,559 --> 00:13:59,763 - Orson Welles character: I'm sorry, sir, but my identity must be... 288 00:13:59,839 --> 00:14:01,563 I used to go by ambulance from one- 289 00:14:01,639 --> 00:14:03,123 one radio station to another because 290 00:14:03,199 --> 00:14:05,360 I discovered there was no law in New York 291 00:14:05,439 --> 00:14:07,600 that you had to be sick to travel in an ambulance. 292 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:09,404 - Man: Shadow. Why are you here? 293 00:14:09,479 --> 00:14:11,760 - I anticipated your performance, Mr. Kent. 294 00:14:11,839 --> 00:14:13,444 - Interviewer: How did "The Shadow" originate? 295 00:14:13,519 --> 00:14:14,763 - Was it a... - Orson Welles: I don't know. 296 00:14:14,839 --> 00:14:16,564 - a show before you took over the part? 297 00:14:16,639 --> 00:14:18,484 - No, no, I was the original Lamont Cranston, 298 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:20,927 as far as I know, but I wouldn't want to... 299 00:14:20,999 --> 00:14:23,367 - But you didn't write that? - Oh, no, my God, 300 00:14:23,439 --> 00:14:25,959 I didn't even know how they came out. 301 00:14:31,479 --> 00:14:32,526 - Announcer: Ladies and gentlemen, we interrupt 302 00:14:32,599 --> 00:14:33,723 our program of dance music 303 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:35,088 to bring you a special bulletin from 304 00:14:35,159 --> 00:14:36,720 the intercontinental Radio News. 305 00:14:36,799 --> 00:14:39,003 At 20 minutes before 8:00 Central time, 306 00:14:39,079 --> 00:14:41,043 Professor Ferrell of the Mount Jennings Observatory 307 00:14:41,119 --> 00:14:42,919 Chicago, Illinois, reports observing 308 00:14:42,999 --> 00:14:45,322 several explosions of incandescent gas 309 00:14:45,399 --> 00:14:48,203 occurring at regular intervals on the planet Mars. 310 00:14:48,279 --> 00:14:50,079 - A lot of people just accidentally tuned in 311 00:14:50,159 --> 00:14:51,687 to "The War of the Worlds" while... 312 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:53,440 the Jack Benny commercial was on or something, 313 00:14:53,519 --> 00:14:55,124 and it freaked them out. 314 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:57,644 It was the turning point in Welles' career. 315 00:14:57,719 --> 00:14:58,963 - Male character: Something smacked the ground, 316 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:00,600 knocked me clear out of my chair. 317 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:02,840 - Interviewer: Well, were you frightened, Mr. Wilmuth? 318 00:15:02,919 --> 00:15:04,643 - I reckon I was kind of filed. 319 00:15:04,719 --> 00:15:05,963 - Were you aware of the tenor that was going on 320 00:15:06,039 --> 00:15:07,239 throughout the nation? - Oh, no, oh, no, 321 00:15:07,319 --> 00:15:08,879 of course not, we did "Dracula," 322 00:15:08,959 --> 00:15:11,087 and it seemed to me, during "Dracula," 323 00:15:11,159 --> 00:15:13,243 I had high hopes that people would react 324 00:15:13,319 --> 00:15:15,447 as they do in a movie of that kind, 325 00:15:15,519 --> 00:15:17,603 and I don't know that they did. 326 00:15:17,679 --> 00:15:19,404 - What scared them is very interesting. 327 00:15:19,479 --> 00:15:22,283 It was all done as news reports. 328 00:15:22,359 --> 00:15:23,886 Until that Moment 329 00:15:23,959 --> 00:15:26,404 When the guy is describing this horrible monster- 330 00:15:26,479 --> 00:15:28,366 "It's coming out, oh, my God! Aah!" 331 00:15:28,439 --> 00:15:31,003 - man: Wait a minute, something's happening. 332 00:15:31,079 --> 00:15:33,360 Some shape is rising out of the pit. 333 00:15:33,439 --> 00:15:34,683 Aah! 334 00:15:34,759 --> 00:15:35,960 - And it went dead. 335 00:15:42,519 --> 00:15:45,006 The people in the booth were going... 336 00:15:45,079 --> 00:15:47,360 And he just mute it. 337 00:15:47,439 --> 00:15:49,240 - Announcer: Ladies and gentlemen, due to circumstances 338 00:15:49,319 --> 00:15:51,480 beyond our control, we are unable to continue 339 00:15:51,559 --> 00:15:53,240 the broadcast from Grover's Mill. 340 00:15:53,319 --> 00:15:55,087 - man: Citizens of the nation, 341 00:15:55,159 --> 00:15:57,046 I shall not try to conceal 342 00:15:57,119 --> 00:15:58,679 the gravity of the situation 343 00:15:58,759 --> 00:16:00,679 that confronts the country, 344 00:16:00,759 --> 00:16:03,159 nor the concern of your government 345 00:16:03,239 --> 00:16:06,523 in protecting the lives and property of its people. 346 00:16:06,599 --> 00:16:09,927 - We will have to sit down and think very carefully 347 00:16:09,999 --> 00:16:12,160 about future broadcasts. 348 00:16:12,239 --> 00:16:14,127 - Reporter: Have you made any specific changes of any programs 349 00:16:14,199 --> 00:16:15,399 that were already scheduled, such as next week's, 350 00:16:15,479 --> 00:16:16,723 for instance? - No. 351 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:18,600 - Police were already in the control room 352 00:16:18,679 --> 00:16:21,440 during the broadcast, not knowing who to arrest. 353 00:16:24,039 --> 00:16:25,927 - Male voice: Flash, country overrun by men from Mars! 354 00:16:25,999 --> 00:16:27,603 Millions of Martians are landing in our fields! 355 00:16:27,679 --> 00:16:29,763 Strange creatures are dropping from the stratosphere! 356 00:16:29,839 --> 00:16:33,767 - M-m-m-m-m-men from Mars! 357 00:16:33,839 --> 00:16:37,199 - Orson Welles character: Army bombing plane, V-8-43, off Bayonne, New Jersey, 358 00:16:37,279 --> 00:16:38,762 - Don't you think that somebody here would have 359 00:16:38,839 --> 00:16:40,444 been able to gauge the reaction 360 00:16:40,519 --> 00:16:43,127 which in fact has occurred throughout the United States? 361 00:16:43,199 --> 00:16:46,287 - Well, every radio program tries to be more dramatic than life. 362 00:16:46,359 --> 00:16:49,644 - Woman: Oh, my gosh! 363 00:16:49,719 --> 00:16:51,279 - Man on radio: There's another group of spaceships- 364 00:16:51,359 --> 00:16:53,368 of the alien ships, they're coming out of the sky! 365 00:16:53,439 --> 00:16:55,599 - Woody Allen character narrating: Despite his bravado all evening, 366 00:16:55,679 --> 00:16:58,047 Mr. Manulis panicked and bolted out of the car. 367 00:16:58,119 --> 00:16:59,799 He was so frightened by the reports 368 00:16:59,879 --> 00:17:01,483 of interplanetary invasion 369 00:17:01,559 --> 00:17:03,403 that he ran off, leaving Aunt Bea 370 00:17:03,479 --> 00:17:05,727 to contend with the slimy green monsters 371 00:17:05,799 --> 00:17:08,199 he expected to drop from the sky at any moment. 372 00:17:08,279 --> 00:17:10,886 When Mr. Manulis called her for a date the next week, 373 00:17:10,959 --> 00:17:12,160 she told my mother to tell him 374 00:17:12,239 --> 00:17:13,602 she couldn't see him anymore. 375 00:17:13,679 --> 00:17:15,284 She had married a Martian. 376 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:17,443 - Reporter, as bells ring: I'm speaking from the roof 377 00:17:17,519 --> 00:17:19,887 of the broadcasting building, New York City- 378 00:17:19,959 --> 00:17:22,000 the bells you hear 379 00:17:22,079 --> 00:17:23,563 are ringing to warn the people 380 00:17:23,639 --> 00:17:26,443 to evacuate the city as the Martians approach... 381 00:17:26,519 --> 00:17:29,203 - This is Orson Welles, ladies and gentlemen. 382 00:17:29,279 --> 00:17:31,767 Out of character to assure you 383 00:17:31,839 --> 00:17:34,959 that "The War of the Worlds has no further significance 384 00:17:35,039 --> 00:17:37,843 than as the holiday offering it was intended to be. 385 00:17:37,919 --> 00:17:40,559 - reporter:... crowds like New Year's Eve in the city. 386 00:17:40,639 --> 00:17:44,360 - Orson Welles: In fact, we weren't as innocent as we meant to be 387 00:17:44,438 --> 00:17:46,163 when we did the Martian broadcast. 388 00:17:46,239 --> 00:17:48,399 We were fed up with the way 389 00:17:48,479 --> 00:17:51,720 in which everything that came over this new magic box, 390 00:17:51,799 --> 00:17:53,719 the radio, was being swallowed. 391 00:17:54,879 --> 00:17:56,242 People, you know, do suspect 392 00:17:56,319 --> 00:17:57,727 what they read in the newspapers 393 00:17:57,799 --> 00:17:59,239 and what people tell them, but when the radio came, 394 00:17:59,319 --> 00:18:01,523 and I suppose now, television, 395 00:18:01,599 --> 00:18:05,287 anything that came through that new machine was believed. 396 00:18:06,559 --> 00:18:08,567 I didn't go to jail... 397 00:18:08,639 --> 00:18:10,287 I went to Hollywood. 398 00:18:13,479 --> 00:18:15,084 - James Naremore: He had established a celebrity 399 00:18:15,158 --> 00:18:17,526 that made Hollywood have an appetite for him. 400 00:18:17,599 --> 00:18:20,360 He was an extremely successful and ambitious 401 00:18:20,439 --> 00:18:22,839 designer of conceptual theater in New York. 402 00:18:22,919 --> 00:18:24,567 He had been on the cover of Time magazine. 403 00:18:24,639 --> 00:18:26,767 He was an important radio performer, 404 00:18:26,839 --> 00:18:29,643 which had made him a worldwide celebrity 405 00:18:29,719 --> 00:18:31,323 and the studios saw 406 00:18:31,399 --> 00:18:32,807 that they could make a buck from this. 407 00:18:38,439 --> 00:18:40,044 - Peter Bogdanovich: RKO wanted him, 408 00:18:40,199 --> 00:18:41,727 and he kept turning it down, 409 00:18:41,799 --> 00:18:44,167 and so every time he turned it down, 410 00:18:44,238 --> 00:18:45,766 the contract would get better, 411 00:18:45,839 --> 00:18:47,323 'cause he'd ask for something 412 00:18:47,399 --> 00:18:48,719 that they just wouldn't give him, 413 00:18:48,799 --> 00:18:51,003 and then they would give it to him. 414 00:18:51,079 --> 00:18:53,163 - Orson Welles: When you honestly didn't want to go, 415 00:18:53,239 --> 00:18:55,727 then- then the deals got better and better. 416 00:18:55,799 --> 00:18:56,999 In my case, I didn't want money. 417 00:18:57,079 --> 00:18:58,323 I wanted authority. 418 00:19:09,799 --> 00:19:11,327 - Orson Welles: There was this guy with a beard 419 00:19:11,398 --> 00:19:13,559 who was going to do it all by himself, you know? 420 00:19:13,639 --> 00:19:16,279 I represented the terrible future 421 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:19,403 of what was going to happen to that town. 422 00:19:19,478 --> 00:19:20,962 - James Naremore: His initial project was 423 00:19:21,039 --> 00:19:22,447 an adaptation of "Heart of Darkness," 424 00:19:22,519 --> 00:19:24,286 which he had done on the radio. 425 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:27,447 - Orson Welles character:... a black and incomprehensible frenzy. 426 00:19:27,519 --> 00:19:29,964 - We were a bunch of 22-, 23-year-old kids, really, 427 00:19:30,038 --> 00:19:31,686 and we had- - 428 00:19:31,759 --> 00:19:33,439 moved in and taken over this studio, 429 00:19:33,519 --> 00:19:35,199 and all these people were looking around, wondering 430 00:19:35,279 --> 00:19:36,762 who the hell we were and what did we think 431 00:19:36,839 --> 00:19:39,000 we were gonna be doing? 432 00:19:39,079 --> 00:19:40,727 - We were not in a very strong 433 00:19:40,799 --> 00:19:43,003 financial situation at the time. 434 00:19:43,078 --> 00:19:46,286 And we thought this acquisition of Mr. Welles 435 00:19:46,358 --> 00:19:48,639 would have done it, but it didn't. 436 00:19:48,719 --> 00:19:50,443 - Man: He wanted to shoot the whole movie, 437 00:19:50,519 --> 00:19:53,083 more or less, from the perspective 438 00:19:53,159 --> 00:19:54,763 of Marlowe, the central character. 439 00:19:54,839 --> 00:19:56,683 So we didn't get a close-up of Welles 440 00:19:56,759 --> 00:19:58,407 until pretty late in the movie. 441 00:19:58,479 --> 00:20:00,607 There were no big movie stars until then, 442 00:20:00,679 --> 00:20:02,326 and people wanted to see Welles. 443 00:20:02,399 --> 00:20:04,964 And it was a film about blackness, 444 00:20:05,039 --> 00:20:06,839 and RKO tried to convince him 445 00:20:06,919 --> 00:20:09,963 Just to hire ordinary extras in blackface in the background. 446 00:20:10,039 --> 00:20:12,439 But he wouldn't go with that. 447 00:20:12,519 --> 00:20:15,443 - Orson Welles: Not knowing anything about it, 448 00:20:15,519 --> 00:20:18,007 there was no basis for fear. 449 00:20:18,079 --> 00:20:20,479 In other words, if you're walking along the edge of a cliff, 450 00:20:20,559 --> 00:20:22,839 and you don't know it's the edge of a cliff, 451 00:20:22,919 --> 00:20:25,167 you have perfect confidence. 452 00:20:32,718 --> 00:20:34,802 - Orson Welles: The first day that I directed a film 453 00:20:34,879 --> 00:20:38,120 was the first day I had ever been on a movie set. 454 00:20:38,198 --> 00:20:39,726 - The Union forever! 455 00:20:39,799 --> 00:20:41,686 - Be careful, Charles! 456 00:20:41,759 --> 00:20:43,243 Pull your muffler around your neck, Charles. 457 00:20:43,319 --> 00:20:45,687 - Mrs. Kane, I think we shall have to tell him now. 458 00:20:45,758 --> 00:20:47,406 - Yes. 459 00:20:47,479 --> 00:20:49,924 I'll sign those papers now, Mr. Thatcher. 460 00:20:49,998 --> 00:20:52,519 - You people seem to forget that I'm the boy's father. 461 00:20:52,598 --> 00:20:54,126 - It's going to be done exactly the way I've told... 462 00:20:54,199 --> 00:20:55,966 - Steven Spielberg: It's about courage and audacity 463 00:20:56,038 --> 00:20:57,958 and "I'm making this my way. " 464 00:20:59,079 --> 00:21:01,763 We're gonna see from one inch to infinity in every shot. 465 00:21:01,839 --> 00:21:03,366 We're gonna see ceilings, and... 466 00:21:03,438 --> 00:21:06,166 we're gonna tell a very convoluted 467 00:21:06,239 --> 00:21:10,483 mystery story about a man's life. 468 00:21:14,678 --> 00:21:16,239 It is just... 469 00:21:16,319 --> 00:21:19,168 one of the great movies ever made. 470 00:21:19,239 --> 00:21:20,963 - I didn't know what you couldn't do. 471 00:21:21,039 --> 00:21:24,847 I didn't deliberately set out to invent anything. 472 00:21:24,919 --> 00:21:27,080 It just seemed to me, "Why not?" 473 00:21:29,599 --> 00:21:31,803 - Simon Callow: He grasped the medium 474 00:21:31,879 --> 00:21:34,247 with such brilliance, enthusiasm, 475 00:21:34,318 --> 00:21:36,447 he completely mastered it. 476 00:21:36,519 --> 00:21:37,806 It's the first film of somebody 477 00:21:37,878 --> 00:21:39,887 who had never even acted in a movie. 478 00:21:39,959 --> 00:21:43,800 - I make no campaign promises! 479 00:21:43,879 --> 00:21:46,563 Because, until a few weeks ago, 480 00:21:46,638 --> 00:21:48,722 I had no hope of being elected. 481 00:21:50,358 --> 00:21:52,203 - Orson Welles: It was intended... 482 00:21:52,278 --> 00:21:54,482 consciously as a sort of social document, 483 00:21:54,559 --> 00:21:56,523 as an attack on the acquisitive society, 484 00:21:56,599 --> 00:21:57,679 but I didn't think that up 485 00:21:57,758 --> 00:22:01,119 and then try to find a story to match the idea. 486 00:22:04,358 --> 00:22:07,207 - John Houseman: The picture was about William Randolph Hearst 487 00:22:07,279 --> 00:22:09,723 and two or three other newspaper barons, 488 00:22:09,799 --> 00:22:11,927 but the picture was also about Orson. 489 00:22:11,999 --> 00:22:14,444 - You're a 24-year-old novice director. 490 00:22:14,519 --> 00:22:15,807 This is difficult material, 491 00:22:15,919 --> 00:22:17,163 maybe impossible. 492 00:22:17,238 --> 00:22:19,279 And old man Hearst is gonna come down on us 493 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:20,526 with all he's got. 494 00:22:20,599 --> 00:22:22,399 - Think of the free publicity. 495 00:22:22,479 --> 00:22:25,523 - Kane: "I'll provide the people of this city 496 00:22:25,598 --> 00:22:29,766 "with a daily paper that will tell all the news honestly. 497 00:22:29,838 --> 00:22:31,159 I will also provide-" 498 00:22:31,238 --> 00:22:33,279 - That's the second sentence you've started with "I." 499 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:34,887 - People are gonna know who's responsible. 500 00:22:36,278 --> 00:22:38,122 - John Houseman: Basic script was 501 00:22:38,198 --> 00:22:40,162 a Herman Mankiewicz script. 502 00:22:40,239 --> 00:22:43,404 A great deal of that picture is, 503 00:22:43,479 --> 00:22:46,327 in every respect, is Green's picture. 504 00:22:46,399 --> 00:22:47,839 - Orson Welles: One day in the office they said, 505 00:22:47,919 --> 00:22:50,920 "There's a man called Toland waiting to see you. " 506 00:22:52,799 --> 00:22:55,166 He was, of course, the leading cameraman. 507 00:22:55,238 --> 00:22:57,726 He said, "I want to make your picture. " 508 00:22:57,799 --> 00:22:59,927 And I said, "Well, that's wonderful. 509 00:22:59,999 --> 00:23:02,519 Why? I don't know anything about movies. " 510 00:23:02,599 --> 00:23:04,563 He says, "That's why I want to do it. " 511 00:23:06,318 --> 00:23:08,479 Well, it was pretty much like my... 512 00:23:08,559 --> 00:23:10,326 My beginnings in the theater. 513 00:23:10,399 --> 00:23:12,079 I had the confidence of ignorance. 514 00:23:21,599 --> 00:23:24,326 - William Friedkin: It contains the very best 515 00:23:24,399 --> 00:23:28,404 of cinematography, editing, lighting, 516 00:23:28,479 --> 00:23:31,043 performance, screenwriting. 517 00:23:34,799 --> 00:23:36,840 It's a quarry for filmmakers. 518 00:23:37,998 --> 00:23:40,999 - It was obvious when you saw it, it was a great picture, 519 00:23:41,079 --> 00:23:42,442 but that doesn't always mean 520 00:23:42,518 --> 00:23:44,799 that it's gonna do big money at the box office-. 521 00:23:44,878 --> 00:23:47,519 - Peter Bogdanovich: A lot of the theater chains were afraid to book it 522 00:23:47,598 --> 00:23:49,562 because they were afraid 523 00:23:49,639 --> 00:23:51,603 their ads wouldn't run in the Hearst papers. 524 00:23:51,679 --> 00:23:55,367 - I sometimes forget that you're all Jews. 525 00:23:55,438 --> 00:23:58,046 Apparently, quite a number of people forget, 526 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:00,519 if they ever knew. 527 00:24:04,638 --> 00:24:07,487 See what you can do about this "Citizen Kane" picture, 528 00:24:07,559 --> 00:24:08,803 will you, Louie? 529 00:24:12,079 --> 00:24:13,923 - Peter Bogdanovich: Orson said he wanted to open it in tents 530 00:24:13,999 --> 00:24:15,003 all across the country. 531 00:24:15,079 --> 00:24:16,726 He'd say, "This is the picture you... not- 532 00:24:16,799 --> 00:24:18,240 they won't let you see. " 533 00:24:18,318 --> 00:24:19,802 But RKO wouldn't hear about it. 534 00:24:19,879 --> 00:24:21,362 - James Naremore: In the next 70- something years, 535 00:24:21,439 --> 00:24:24,003 it became one of the most admired films ever made. 536 00:24:25,718 --> 00:24:30,322 - You can see a change in films after "Kane. " 537 00:24:30,398 --> 00:24:32,482 I said, "Don't you think you had a tremendous influence?" 538 00:24:32,559 --> 00:24:34,087 He said not really. He said they didn't- 539 00:24:34,159 --> 00:24:35,719 They really weren't influenced by anything important. 540 00:24:35,799 --> 00:24:38,603 There were just a lot of ceilings and shadows. 541 00:24:38,679 --> 00:24:40,807 - Many people can agree, it's just one of the great 542 00:24:40,879 --> 00:24:43,007 American experiences in the cinema. 543 00:24:43,079 --> 00:24:44,923 - Welles as Kane: Rosebud. 544 00:24:44,999 --> 00:24:46,482 - Orson Welles: I'm ashamed of Rosebud. 545 00:24:46,559 --> 00:24:47,683 I think it's the... 546 00:24:47,759 --> 00:24:49,483 A rather tawdry device. 547 00:24:49,559 --> 00:24:51,403 It doesn't stand up very well. 548 00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:01,047 - Orson Welles: Well, I've regretted early successes in many fields, 549 00:25:01,118 --> 00:25:03,279 but I don't regret that in "Kane" 550 00:25:03,358 --> 00:25:07,407 because it was the only chance I ever had of that kind. 551 00:25:07,479 --> 00:25:10,163 I'm glad I had it at any time in my life. 552 00:25:13,358 --> 00:25:15,846 I was spoiled in a very strange way. 553 00:25:15,918 --> 00:25:17,762 I didn't know what was ahead of me. 554 00:25:27,799 --> 00:25:30,319 - man narrating: The magnificence of the Ambersons 555 00:25:30,399 --> 00:25:33,006 began in 1873. 556 00:25:33,078 --> 00:25:35,523 Their splendor lasted throughout all the years 557 00:25:35,599 --> 00:25:37,246 that saw their midland town 558 00:25:37,318 --> 00:25:40,406 spread and darken into a city. 559 00:25:40,478 --> 00:25:42,606 In that town, in those days, 560 00:25:42,678 --> 00:25:44,478 all the women who wore silk or velvet 561 00:25:44,559 --> 00:25:47,047 knew all the other women who wore silk or velvet, 562 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:49,039 and everybody knew everybody else's 563 00:25:49,118 --> 00:25:51,246 family horse and carriage. 564 00:25:51,318 --> 00:25:53,446 - One of the reasons he liked "Amberson" so much 565 00:25:53,518 --> 00:25:55,123 was 'cause he wasn't in it. 566 00:25:55,198 --> 00:25:56,442 - Too slow for us nowadays. 567 00:25:56,518 --> 00:25:58,123 - Often, he was the- you know, a name 568 00:25:58,198 --> 00:25:59,879 that he used for himself in a movie, 569 00:25:59,958 --> 00:26:02,119 'cause he was a name actor. 570 00:26:02,198 --> 00:26:04,599 As he said to me once, he said, 571 00:26:04,679 --> 00:26:07,483 "I don't enjoy acting as much as I should. " 572 00:26:09,998 --> 00:26:12,639 - Orson Welles: The real point of "Ambersons," 573 00:26:12,718 --> 00:26:15,762 everything that is any good in it 574 00:26:15,839 --> 00:26:17,040 is that part of it 575 00:26:17,118 --> 00:26:19,803 which was really just a preparation 576 00:26:19,878 --> 00:26:22,639 for the decay of the Ambersons. 577 00:26:22,718 --> 00:26:24,126 - Pride of the town. 578 00:26:24,199 --> 00:26:25,966 - Hot and cold running water? 579 00:26:26,038 --> 00:26:28,166 - Woman: Upstairs and down. 580 00:26:28,238 --> 00:26:29,286 - Man: I want to look at that 581 00:26:29,358 --> 00:26:31,278 automobile carriage of yours, Gene. 582 00:26:31,358 --> 00:26:32,525 - Franny, you'll catch cold! 583 00:26:32,598 --> 00:26:33,558 - Man: We're gonna ride in that thing tomorrow. 584 00:26:33,639 --> 00:26:34,806 I want to see if it's safe. 585 00:26:34,879 --> 00:26:35,926 - Good night, Isabella- - Good night, Eugene. 586 00:26:35,999 --> 00:26:37,439 - You be ready at ten minutes after 2:00. 587 00:26:37,518 --> 00:26:38,762 - No, I won't. 588 00:26:38,839 --> 00:26:40,127 - Yes, you will. 589 00:26:40,199 --> 00:26:41,562 Ten minutes after 2:00. 590 00:26:42,918 --> 00:26:45,002 - Yes, I will. 591 00:26:47,239 --> 00:26:49,487 - Get a horse, get a horse! 592 00:26:49,559 --> 00:26:51,479 Get a horse. 593 00:26:51,558 --> 00:26:52,562 - Look out, Lucy! 594 00:26:52,638 --> 00:26:53,598 - Oh! 595 00:26:53,679 --> 00:26:54,967 - Woman: What's happened to them? 596 00:26:55,039 --> 00:26:56,206 - Oh, George... 597 00:26:57,239 --> 00:27:00,283 - Orson Welles: A good film, I think, should not be an illustrated, 598 00:27:00,358 --> 00:27:05,127 all-talking, all-movin version of a printed work 599 00:27:05,199 --> 00:27:08,483 but should be itself, a thin of itself. 600 00:27:08,558 --> 00:27:09,846 - George, you tried to swing underneath me 601 00:27:09,918 --> 00:27:12,363 and break the fall for me when you went over. 602 00:27:12,439 --> 00:27:14,567 I knew you were doing that. It was nice of you. 603 00:27:14,639 --> 00:27:16,483 It wasn't much of a fall to speak of. 604 00:27:16,559 --> 00:27:17,847 How about that kiss? 605 00:27:17,998 --> 00:27:20,366 - # Can hear them sigh and wish to die # 606 00:27:20,438 --> 00:27:22,762 # And see 'em wink the other eye # 607 00:27:22,838 --> 00:27:26,199 # At the man who broke the bank at Monte Carlo # 608 00:27:30,038 --> 00:27:33,443 - Orson Welles: About the time Major Amberson dies, 609 00:27:33,518 --> 00:27:35,482 the picture starts to become another picture, 610 00:27:35,558 --> 00:27:37,086 becomes their picture. 611 00:27:37,159 --> 00:27:38,719 An actual plot was changed. 612 00:27:38,799 --> 00:27:40,763 - Robert Wise: Well, I'm sorry about that, 613 00:27:40,839 --> 00:27:41,918 'cause I was involved in all the cuts, 614 00:27:41,998 --> 00:27:43,286 but it was one of those circumstances 615 00:27:43,358 --> 00:27:44,362 that couldn't be helped. 616 00:27:44,438 --> 00:27:45,726 He was in South America 617 00:27:45,799 --> 00:27:47,163 making a film for the government 618 00:27:47,238 --> 00:27:48,439 to help our war effort 619 00:27:48,519 --> 00:27:50,166 in that good neighbor policy we had. 620 00:27:52,478 --> 00:27:54,562 The studio was very- naturally, very upset. 621 00:27:54,638 --> 00:27:55,882 They had a lot of money in this film, 622 00:27:55,958 --> 00:27:57,322 and they ranted to get it out. 623 00:27:57,398 --> 00:27:58,642 Consequently, we did cut 624 00:27:58,799 --> 00:28:00,883 about 25 or 30 minutes of the original film, 625 00:28:00,958 --> 00:28:03,403 and we had to make two or three or four 626 00:28:03,479 --> 00:28:05,683 new bridge scenes to tie it together, 627 00:28:05,758 --> 00:28:07,122 and there was a new ending shot. 628 00:28:07,199 --> 00:28:08,400 - How is Georgie? 629 00:28:08,478 --> 00:28:10,366 - He's going to be all right. 630 00:28:10,438 --> 00:28:11,486 Annie. 631 00:28:11,559 --> 00:28:13,687 I wish you could have seen Georgie's face... 632 00:28:13,759 --> 00:28:14,959 - Orson Welles: There's no scene in a hospital, 633 00:28:15,038 --> 00:28:18,039 nothing like that ever happened. 634 00:28:18,118 --> 00:28:19,482 - I can only say that all of us up here 635 00:28:19,558 --> 00:28:22,078 did the very best job we could with the problem. 636 00:28:24,319 --> 00:28:25,966 - James Naremore: As one important critic has said, 637 00:28:26,038 --> 00:28:27,838 RKO had hired Wells 638 00:28:27,918 --> 00:28:29,882 To make them masterpieces, 639 00:28:29,959 --> 00:28:32,446 and he delivered a masterpiece, 640 00:28:32,518 --> 00:28:34,002 and they didn't like it. 641 00:28:34,079 --> 00:28:35,562 - Orson Welles: The key long scene at the end, 642 00:28:35,638 --> 00:28:36,839 Which was Aggie Moorehead 643 00:28:36,918 --> 00:28:39,962 in a third-rate lodging house, 644 00:28:40,038 --> 00:28:42,559 that was the best scene in the picture. 645 00:28:42,638 --> 00:28:45,039 That was what the picture was about. 646 00:28:45,118 --> 00:28:48,839 It's gone. 647 00:28:48,918 --> 00:28:50,402 I was sent to South America 648 00:28:50,478 --> 00:28:54,362 by Nelson Rockefeller and Jock Whitney. 649 00:28:54,438 --> 00:28:57,526 I was told that it was my patriotic duty 650 00:28:57,598 --> 00:28:59,366 to go and spend a million dollars 651 00:28:59,439 --> 00:29:03,160 shooting the Carnival in Rio. 652 00:29:03,238 --> 00:29:05,399 They put it to me that it would be 653 00:29:05,479 --> 00:29:08,240 a real contribution to inter-American affairs, 654 00:29:08,318 --> 00:29:09,999 and so... 655 00:29:16,039 --> 00:29:18,243 Anything that I've done in any medium, 656 00:29:18,318 --> 00:29:20,522 if it's ever been any good, 657 00:29:20,598 --> 00:29:25,563 has been my way, to quote the song. 658 00:29:30,998 --> 00:29:32,918 I was in terrible trouble then. 659 00:29:35,198 --> 00:29:38,559 In the meantime, RKO has now a new government, 660 00:29:38,638 --> 00:29:40,722 and they asked to see the rushes 661 00:29:40,798 --> 00:29:42,642 of what I'm doing in South America, 662 00:29:42,718 --> 00:29:46,079 and they see a lot of people, black people, 663 00:29:46,158 --> 00:29:48,886 and they... 664 00:29:48,959 --> 00:29:51,163 made a great publicity point 665 00:29:51,238 --> 00:29:52,963 of the fact that I had gone to South America 666 00:29:53,038 --> 00:29:55,766 and thrown all this money away. 667 00:29:55,838 --> 00:29:59,559 - RKO said, "Well, maybe we'd better stop this. " 668 00:29:59,639 --> 00:30:01,647 - So I was fired from RKO. 669 00:30:08,559 --> 00:30:09,966 And its slogan for that year 670 00:30:10,038 --> 00:30:12,003 printed on every piece of paper 671 00:30:12,078 --> 00:30:14,119 that went out from RKO was 672 00:30:14,198 --> 00:30:17,002 "Showmanship Instead of Genius. " 673 00:30:17,078 --> 00:30:19,162 I really wouldn't want to try 674 00:30:19,238 --> 00:30:22,087 to edge my way into an elevator 675 00:30:22,158 --> 00:30:25,006 that's for geniuses only. 676 00:30:26,598 --> 00:30:28,518 - Julie Taymor: Sometimes you get frustrated that 677 00:30:28,598 --> 00:30:31,325 people want to do things to your projects, 678 00:30:31,398 --> 00:30:33,406 in theater or film, 'cause I've had both, 679 00:30:33,478 --> 00:30:35,246 and then you have to fight, 680 00:30:35,318 --> 00:30:37,838 and I'm sure Orson Welles had a lot of struggles, 681 00:30:37,919 --> 00:30:41,083 as we know, and lost battles 682 00:30:41,158 --> 00:30:42,686 and hopefully won a few. 683 00:30:42,758 --> 00:30:45,398 - He was a brilliant man, he had a lot to offer, 684 00:30:45,478 --> 00:30:48,118 he made two wonderful pictures, 685 00:30:48,199 --> 00:30:51,243 but he also... 686 00:30:51,318 --> 00:30:54,287 went bad after the second picture. 687 00:30:54,359 --> 00:30:57,479 - Horrendous. I mean, there are some who've committed suicide. 688 00:30:57,558 --> 00:31:00,766 - An Italian waiter came and said to me in Italian, 689 00:31:00,838 --> 00:31:04,646 "Did you ever make a picture after 'Citizen Kane'?" 690 00:31:07,238 --> 00:31:08,602 I didn't get a job as a director 691 00:31:08,678 --> 00:31:10,326 for years afterwards. 692 00:31:11,718 --> 00:31:13,323 So then I did "Jane Eyre. " 693 00:31:17,638 --> 00:31:18,839 EH! 694 00:31:26,879 --> 00:31:28,766 - Can I do anything? - Stand out of the way. 695 00:31:28,838 --> 00:31:30,486 - I'm sorry I frightened your horse. 696 00:31:30,558 --> 00:31:32,206 - Apologies won't mend my ankle. 697 00:31:32,278 --> 00:31:33,445 Down, Pilot! 698 00:31:35,078 --> 00:31:36,486 - Orson Welles: I was obsessed 699 00:31:36,558 --> 00:31:38,402 in my hot youth 700 00:31:38,478 --> 00:31:42,887 with the idea that I would not be a star. 701 00:31:42,958 --> 00:31:45,402 I was in a position to promote myself as a star... 702 00:31:45,478 --> 00:31:47,442 - Who's that? - ... And I should've. 703 00:31:47,518 --> 00:31:49,166 I should've gone back to New York 704 00:31:49,238 --> 00:31:52,446 and played Hamlet and as long as it was going, 705 00:31:52,519 --> 00:31:54,199 I didn't- I had this idea that 706 00:31:54,278 --> 00:31:56,843 I wanted to be known as a director and that was it. 707 00:32:01,958 --> 00:32:04,206 The next picture I did do was "The Stranger," 708 00:32:04,278 --> 00:32:06,482 and I did that to show people 709 00:32:06,558 --> 00:32:08,282 that I didn't glow in the dark, 710 00:32:08,358 --> 00:32:10,682 that I could say "action" and "cut" 711 00:32:10,759 --> 00:32:12,242 just like all the other fellas. 712 00:32:19,478 --> 00:32:21,365 What is it, dear? 713 00:32:21,438 --> 00:32:22,846 - When you grew up in that era, you thou ht- 714 00:32:22,918 --> 00:32:24,446 you saw movies for the junk that they were, 715 00:32:24,518 --> 00:32:25,522 nobody took them seriously. 716 00:32:25,598 --> 00:32:27,802 - You'll become part of the crime. 717 00:32:27,878 --> 00:32:30,279 - But I'm already a part of it. 718 00:32:30,358 --> 00:32:33,643 'Cause I'm a part of you. 719 00:32:33,718 --> 00:32:35,966 - And I now that people dislike it, 720 00:32:36,038 --> 00:32:39,082 but I just love his love of using the medium 721 00:32:39,158 --> 00:32:42,158 for all of its tricks and playing with them. 722 00:32:42,238 --> 00:32:44,519 This is what a studio movie could be. 723 00:32:48,158 --> 00:32:49,763 - It was supposed to be a hammy performance. 724 00:32:49,838 --> 00:32:52,807 It wasn't unconsciously so. 725 00:32:52,878 --> 00:32:54,798 That's all I can say about that. 726 00:32:55,798 --> 00:32:57,326 - James Naremore: They cut that one up, too. 727 00:32:57,398 --> 00:33:00,606 Welles was an ideological challenge to Hollywood. 728 00:33:00,678 --> 00:33:02,719 He was simply not a Hollywood filmmaker. 729 00:33:05,598 --> 00:33:07,398 - Peter Bogdanovich: None of his pictures 730 00:33:07,478 --> 00:33:08,558 really received wide distribution 731 00:33:08,638 --> 00:33:10,319 except for "The Stranger," 732 00:33:10,398 --> 00:33:12,407 which was the only picture of his that made any money. 733 00:33:12,478 --> 00:33:14,639 - It's not an accident that it comes in a can. 734 00:33:14,718 --> 00:33:17,086 They welcomed the adventurer 735 00:33:17,158 --> 00:33:19,526 in the 19th century much more than they do today. 736 00:33:19,598 --> 00:33:21,802 My kind of fella is the real outsider. 737 00:33:31,318 --> 00:33:33,479 Good evening, everybody, this is Orson Welles, 738 00:33:33,558 --> 00:33:35,086 the Mercury Wonder Show broadcasting tonight from 739 00:33:35,158 --> 00:33:36,522 the Air Service Command Training Center 740 00:33:36,598 --> 00:33:38,126 at Fresno, California. 741 00:33:39,998 --> 00:33:41,406 Last week, an American president 742 00:33:41,478 --> 00:33:43,278 fell in the midst of battle. 743 00:33:43,358 --> 00:33:44,646 - announcer: Guess who's taking Jack's place 744 00:33:44,718 --> 00:33:46,125 on the program tonight? - man: Who? 745 00:33:46,198 --> 00:33:47,726 - Orson Welles, that's who! 746 00:33:47,798 --> 00:33:49,358 Orson Welles! 747 00:33:52,598 --> 00:33:54,802 - Orson Welles: I did "Around the World in 80 Days," 748 00:33:54,878 --> 00:33:56,798 and it was, I think, 749 00:33:56,878 --> 00:33:58,362 the best thing I ever did in the theater, 750 00:33:58,438 --> 00:33:59,921 but it was a financial disaster. 751 00:33:59,998 --> 00:34:01,438 Before the opening in Boston, 752 00:34:01,518 --> 00:34:04,366 the costumes were sitting in the railway station, 753 00:34:04,438 --> 00:34:07,439 and there was $55,000 to pay for them. 754 00:34:07,518 --> 00:34:10,486 And I was trying to think who in Hollywood could send me 755 00:34:10,558 --> 00:34:12,086 $55,000... 756 00:34:12,158 --> 00:34:14,962 In the next three hours. 757 00:34:15,038 --> 00:34:17,482 I thought, "Harry Cohn. " 758 00:34:17,558 --> 00:34:19,642 Only one with the courage to do it. 759 00:34:19,718 --> 00:34:22,086 I called him up, I said, "I've got the greatest story 760 00:34:22,158 --> 00:34:23,325 you've ever read," and I turned 761 00:34:23,398 --> 00:34:24,925 the paperback around 762 00:34:24,998 --> 00:34:28,042 that the girl in the box office was reading. 763 00:34:28,118 --> 00:34:29,798 It was called "The Man I Killed. " 764 00:34:29,878 --> 00:34:32,442 And I says, "It's called 'The Man I Killed,' 765 00:34:32,518 --> 00:34:35,519 written by such and such, a paperback, buy it!" 766 00:34:35,598 --> 00:34:39,526 I said, "You get me $55,000 to Boston-" 767 00:34:39,598 --> 00:34:41,726 "And I will make it for you if you'll send me 768 00:34:41,798 --> 00:34:43,522 $47,000 in two hours. " 769 00:34:43,598 --> 00:34:46,042 55,000 came. 770 00:34:46,118 --> 00:34:47,482 - Welles always liked to pretend that he had 771 00:34:47,558 --> 00:34:49,566 absolutely no idea that Harry Cohn 772 00:34:49,638 --> 00:34:51,482 had asked him to make a movie with Rita Hayworth. 773 00:34:51,558 --> 00:34:52,998 He had no idea what to do. 774 00:34:53,078 --> 00:34:55,119 The stage door keeper of the theater that he was 775 00:34:55,198 --> 00:34:57,402 working in when he was doing "Around the World" 776 00:34:57,478 --> 00:35:00,402 happened to be reading a book called "The Lady from Shanghai. " 777 00:35:00,478 --> 00:35:01,766 - It's called something or other, 778 00:35:01,838 --> 00:35:03,082 it wasn't "Lady from Shanghai" then. 779 00:35:03,157 --> 00:35:04,641 - Sometimes he told the story one way, 780 00:35:04,718 --> 00:35:05,962 and sometimes he'd tell it another way. 781 00:35:06,037 --> 00:35:07,205 - It's all nonsense. 782 00:35:07,277 --> 00:35:08,478 - Maybe that comes from one of those 783 00:35:08,558 --> 00:35:09,878 foreign language interviews 784 00:35:09,958 --> 00:35:11,922 where I pretend I understand the question 785 00:35:11,998 --> 00:35:13,678 and say yes, you know? 786 00:35:27,798 --> 00:35:31,399 - host: We are bringing together, for the first time on the air, 787 00:35:31,478 --> 00:35:34,086 one of Hollywood's best-known married couples, 788 00:35:34,157 --> 00:35:36,405 Rita Hayworth and Orson Welles. 789 00:35:36,478 --> 00:35:40,362 - Orson Welles: I had divorced from Rita. 790 00:35:43,558 --> 00:35:46,362 She came to me and said, "I want to make your picture. " 791 00:35:46,438 --> 00:35:49,122 - Welles would say anything at any time 792 00:35:49,198 --> 00:35:51,763 if it sounded good at the moment, 793 00:35:51,838 --> 00:35:54,239 and he often admitted to that himself. 794 00:35:54,317 --> 00:35:55,801 - Orson Welles: Harry sent for me and said, 795 00:35:55,878 --> 00:35:58,726 "I want you to do that with Rita, for her sake. " 796 00:35:58,798 --> 00:35:59,922 - # Then don't... # 797 00:35:59,998 --> 00:36:01,286 - I was lucky enough to be with her 798 00:36:01,358 --> 00:36:05,199 longer than any of the other men in her life. 799 00:36:05,278 --> 00:36:06,599 She is a dear person, 800 00:36:06,678 --> 00:36:08,358 and she was a wonderful wife 801 00:36:08,437 --> 00:36:11,722 and an extraordinary girl in every way. 802 00:36:11,798 --> 00:36:14,559 - Hayworth character: There've been many women, haven't there... 803 00:36:14,638 --> 00:36:16,558 - Welles character: Yes. 804 00:36:16,638 --> 00:36:19,006 - Orson Welles: I think the first sex biologically 805 00:36:19,078 --> 00:36:20,366 is the female sex, 806 00:36:20,438 --> 00:36:22,446 and there are many creatures 807 00:36:22,518 --> 00:36:25,279 in our world who are women 808 00:36:25,358 --> 00:36:28,566 and only become male as long as is necessary 809 00:36:28,638 --> 00:36:30,242 and then revert to their original 810 00:36:30,318 --> 00:36:31,606 and superior condition. 811 00:36:31,678 --> 00:36:35,639 You know, I think we're a kind of decoration. 812 00:36:35,718 --> 00:36:38,599 I think the basic and essential human 813 00:36:38,678 --> 00:36:41,078 is the woman, 814 00:36:41,158 --> 00:36:42,686 and all that we're doing 815 00:36:42,758 --> 00:36:44,842 is trying to brighten up the place 816 00:36:44,917 --> 00:36:47,678 because we've got to try and justify our existence-. 817 00:36:47,758 --> 00:36:48,882 Look how little we do 818 00:36:48,958 --> 00:36:50,638 to keep the race going. 819 00:36:50,718 --> 00:36:52,878 I've had a marvelous sex life. 820 00:36:52,958 --> 00:36:55,206 - Dick Cavett: Is it too personal to ask what age it started at? 821 00:36:55,278 --> 00:36:56,598 - Well, if I tell you, you won't believe it, 822 00:36:56,678 --> 00:36:57,682 so I'd better not answer. 823 00:36:57,758 --> 00:37:02,679 - He was notoriously flirtatious with both sexes. 824 00:37:02,757 --> 00:37:05,846 He used to love to lie in a bath 825 00:37:05,917 --> 00:37:07,958 and do interviews with his associates, 826 00:37:08,038 --> 00:37:09,566 which embarrassed some of them 827 00:37:09,638 --> 00:37:11,242 and perhaps delighted others, I don't know. 828 00:37:13,918 --> 00:37:15,762 I myself have absolutely no evidence 829 00:37:15,838 --> 00:37:17,246 that Wells ever had 830 00:37:17,318 --> 00:37:19,205 any kind of sexual relationship with a man, 831 00:37:19,278 --> 00:37:20,445 but he was very, very conscious 832 00:37:20,518 --> 00:37:22,198 that it was something that he could use. 833 00:37:22,278 --> 00:37:24,438 - Orson Welles: It's the business of the director, 834 00:37:24,518 --> 00:37:26,963 is to carry on a continual courtship 835 00:37:27,037 --> 00:37:29,198 with the people he sticks in front of the lens. 836 00:37:29,278 --> 00:37:31,842 And when you deal with stars, 837 00:37:31,918 --> 00:37:35,442 you know, real stars, you have to... 838 00:37:35,518 --> 00:37:37,482 You have to really make love. 839 00:37:47,278 --> 00:37:48,958 - Orson Welles character: Personally, I don't like 840 00:37:49,038 --> 00:37:50,762 a girlfriend to have a husband. 841 00:37:50,838 --> 00:37:53,565 If she'll fool a husband, I figure she'll fool me. 842 00:37:53,637 --> 00:37:55,285 - Rita Hayworth character: George. 843 00:37:55,358 --> 00:37:57,125 - James Naremore: Even though this is a more conventional thriller 844 00:37:57,197 --> 00:37:59,565 with a movie star at the heart of it, 845 00:37:59,638 --> 00:38:01,243 the film is much more surrealistic, 846 00:38:01,317 --> 00:38:04,286 much more strange, and all the more strange 847 00:38:04,358 --> 00:38:06,278 because, when the studio doctored it, 848 00:38:06,358 --> 00:38:09,446 they put into it these big close-ups 849 00:38:09,518 --> 00:38:10,642 of Rita Hayworth, and they add 850 00:38:10,718 --> 00:38:12,485 to the surreal quality of the film. 851 00:38:21,877 --> 00:38:24,365 - Welles character: I thought it was me that was crazy. 852 00:38:24,438 --> 00:38:26,205 After what I'd been through, 853 00:38:26,277 --> 00:38:31,285 anything crazy at all seemed natural, but now... 854 00:38:31,357 --> 00:38:34,162 I was sane on one subject, her. 855 00:38:34,237 --> 00:38:36,398 I knew about her. 856 00:38:36,478 --> 00:38:38,365 And I was the fail guy. 857 00:38:40,798 --> 00:38:42,359 - Martin Scorsese: He was not afraid of being self-conscious 858 00:38:42,438 --> 00:38:44,686 with the camera. 859 00:38:44,758 --> 00:38:46,842 He did it with such conviction and with such brilliance 860 00:38:46,918 --> 00:38:48,598 that you began to realize, "Ah, I see, the camera moves. " 861 00:38:53,798 --> 00:38:57,006 - James Naremore: Bewildering, astonishing things 862 00:38:57,078 --> 00:38:58,922 are happening all the time, 863 00:38:58,998 --> 00:39:01,802 building up to the great mirror maze at the end. 864 00:39:07,078 --> 00:39:09,238 - I knew I'd find you two together. 865 00:39:09,318 --> 00:39:11,883 But you'd be foolish to fire that gun. 866 00:39:13,918 --> 00:39:16,286 With these mirrors, it's difficult to tell. 867 00:39:16,357 --> 00:39:19,282 You are aiming at me, aren't you? 868 00:39:19,357 --> 00:39:21,725 I'm aiming at you, lover. 869 00:39:21,798 --> 00:39:24,243 Of course, killing you is killing myself. 870 00:39:46,237 --> 00:39:49,086 - Michael... 871 00:39:49,158 --> 00:39:51,286 Come back here. 872 00:39:51,358 --> 00:39:53,366 Michael. 873 00:39:53,438 --> 00:39:55,162 Please! 874 00:39:56,318 --> 00:39:58,566 - Simon Callow: This is one of the great mysteries, 875 00:39:58,638 --> 00:40:02,042 why this extraordinarily smart guy was outwitted 876 00:40:02,118 --> 00:40:04,366 by so much less remarkable 877 00:40:04,438 --> 00:40:06,762 and intelligent people so often. 878 00:40:06,837 --> 00:40:08,125 - MONEY- 879 00:40:12,157 --> 00:40:14,077 Macbeth! 880 00:40:14,158 --> 00:40:15,686 Beware MacDuff! 881 00:40:15,758 --> 00:40:19,042 Macduff! Beware MacDuff! 882 00:40:20,797 --> 00:40:22,565 - I don't know what I haven't done about this play 883 00:40:22,638 --> 00:40:24,678 except do it as well as I'd like to. 884 00:40:24,757 --> 00:40:27,202 It's a great feeling to be dealing with 885 00:40:27,277 --> 00:40:29,438 material which is better than yourself. 886 00:40:29,518 --> 00:40:31,602 Answer me! 887 00:40:37,198 --> 00:40:40,438 - Witches: Double, double, toil and trouble, 888 00:40:40,518 --> 00:40:44,087 fire burn and cauldron bubble. 889 00:40:44,158 --> 00:40:46,045 - He had nothing. The sets are bad. 890 00:40:46,118 --> 00:40:49,283 But the way that he then had to light them 891 00:40:49,357 --> 00:40:52,839 and choreograph the camera and the actors in those sets... 892 00:40:52,917 --> 00:40:56,082 It had tremendous power. 893 00:40:59,158 --> 00:41:02,323 - Which of you have done this? 894 00:41:02,398 --> 00:41:05,606 - Julie Taymor: Sometimes, when you can do it all, you- 895 00:41:05,718 --> 00:41:07,126 you know, it's like too much ice cream, 896 00:41:07,198 --> 00:41:09,206 too many flavors, you can't even make a decision, 897 00:41:09,278 --> 00:41:12,759 but how you fill the limitation 898 00:41:12,838 --> 00:41:14,878 shows the real artist or not. 899 00:41:16,558 --> 00:41:17,878 - Jonathan Rosenbaum: None of his Shakespeare films 900 00:41:17,958 --> 00:41:20,282 were ever really supported by the critics. 901 00:41:20,357 --> 00:41:22,998 They complained about the Scottish accents. 902 00:41:24,678 --> 00:41:28,606 - Knock, knock. Never at quiet. 903 00:41:28,677 --> 00:41:29,921 The plague of these... 904 00:41:29,998 --> 00:41:31,406 - Rosenbaum: He had to do all these changes 905 00:41:31,478 --> 00:41:34,566 in the soundtrack and cut "Macbeth," 906 00:41:34,638 --> 00:41:36,405 but he was the one who did the cutting. 907 00:41:43,797 --> 00:41:48,805 - Orson Welles: It was a big critical failure. 908 00:41:48,877 --> 00:41:50,722 It was the biggest critical failure I ever had. 909 00:41:57,117 --> 00:41:59,126 - What is that noise? 910 00:42:06,998 --> 00:42:08,645 - Orson Welles: I'm very happy in America, 911 00:42:08,717 --> 00:42:11,718 but it happens that America is not as happy with me 912 00:42:11,798 --> 00:42:13,238 as I am with it. - Muchas gracias, sexier. 913 00:42:13,318 --> 00:42:14,801 - Julie Taymor: He was different. 914 00:42:14,878 --> 00:42:17,006 He was really doing something 915 00:42:17,077 --> 00:42:20,678 so unique to his own imagination, 916 00:42:20,758 --> 00:42:23,322 and whether that means his films were successful 917 00:42:23,437 --> 00:42:24,758 is a whole different matter. 918 00:42:24,838 --> 00:42:26,245 They are successful. 919 00:42:30,277 --> 00:42:32,798 - Like the fruit pickers, I go where the work is. 920 00:42:37,797 --> 00:42:41,725 I don't think of myself as in exile at all. 921 00:42:41,797 --> 00:42:44,198 In fact, I've spent most of my life 922 00:42:44,277 --> 00:42:45,882 not quite unpacked. 923 00:42:48,718 --> 00:42:50,245 - Henry Jaglom: One of the things that had driven him away 924 00:42:50,317 --> 00:42:52,762 was the McCarthy-in period. 925 00:42:52,838 --> 00:42:54,998 He was very messed up by what was going on 926 00:42:55,077 --> 00:42:56,157 in America politically, 927 00:42:56,238 --> 00:42:57,798 had been a real progressive, you know, 928 00:42:57,877 --> 00:43:00,081 and he was horrified. 929 00:43:02,397 --> 00:43:05,441 - He was never a communist, but the FBI was following him, 930 00:43:05,517 --> 00:43:07,045 since "Citizen Kane," 931 00:43:07,118 --> 00:43:09,246 when Hearst was a friend of Hoover. 932 00:43:09,318 --> 00:43:11,806 - Orson Welles: I've been investigated over and over again. 933 00:43:11,878 --> 00:43:14,846 It's one of our favorite indoor and outdoor sports. 934 00:43:37,678 --> 00:43:38,878 Harry! 935 00:43:40,278 --> 00:43:42,242 - Rosenbaum: The most successful thing he was ever part of, 936 00:43:42,317 --> 00:43:45,722 commercially, was offered a percentage as part of the deal, 937 00:43:45,798 --> 00:43:47,839 but he couldn't afford it because he needed the money, 938 00:43:47,917 --> 00:43:49,958 so he would have been a wealthy man. 939 00:43:51,678 --> 00:43:53,445 - Look down there. 940 00:43:53,517 --> 00:43:55,885 Would you really feel any pity if one of those dots 941 00:43:55,957 --> 00:43:57,844 stopped moving forever? 942 00:43:57,917 --> 00:44:01,005 If I offered you �20,000 for every dot that stopped, 943 00:44:01,077 --> 00:44:02,997 would you really, old man, tell me to keep my money, 944 00:44:03,078 --> 00:44:04,965 or would you calculate 945 00:44:05,037 --> 00:44:06,957 how many dots you could afford to spare? 946 00:44:07,038 --> 00:44:08,762 Free of income tax, old man. 947 00:44:08,838 --> 00:44:11,118 - Rosenbaum: What's also kind of interesting and ironic 948 00:44:11,197 --> 00:44:12,605 is that Harry Lime, for him, 949 00:44:12,678 --> 00:44:14,926 was the most detestable character he ever played, 950 00:44:14,998 --> 00:44:16,481 but everybody else loves Harry Lime. 951 00:44:17,797 --> 00:44:19,118 - Woman: I have never in my life 952 00:44:19,197 --> 00:44:20,398 seen anything in the same 953 00:44:20,478 --> 00:44:24,046 category of hideousness, but I adore him! 954 00:44:28,597 --> 00:44:30,125 - Don't be so gloomy. 955 00:44:30,198 --> 00:44:32,282 After all, it's not that awful. 956 00:44:32,357 --> 00:44:34,277 You know what the fella says. 957 00:44:34,357 --> 00:44:36,244 In Italy, for 30 years under the Borgias, 958 00:44:36,317 --> 00:44:38,957 they had warfare, terror, murder, and bloodshed, 959 00:44:39,037 --> 00:44:40,565 but they produced Michelangelo, 960 00:44:40,638 --> 00:44:42,558 Leonardo da Vinci, and the Renaissance. 961 00:44:42,637 --> 00:44:44,885 In Switzerland, they had brotherly love. 962 00:44:44,957 --> 00:44:47,522 They had 500 years of democracy and peace, 963 00:44:47,597 --> 00:44:49,517 and what did that produce? 964 00:44:49,597 --> 00:44:52,478 The cuckoo clock. Solon, Holly. 965 00:44:52,558 --> 00:44:54,445 - Orson Welles: A great many of us have been 966 00:44:54,517 --> 00:44:55,925 in Europe during these last years. 967 00:44:55,998 --> 00:44:58,278 It's been a kind of frontier for us in films, 968 00:44:58,357 --> 00:45:02,405 and it's a more anarchistic and freer atmosphere. 969 00:45:02,477 --> 00:45:04,125 - Elvis Mitchell: You know, a lot of people, I think, conceptually, 970 00:45:04,197 --> 00:45:06,042 like the idea of change, 971 00:45:06,117 --> 00:45:07,798 but they don't want things to change. 972 00:45:07,877 --> 00:45:10,038 But Welles' impatience was about that change, 973 00:45:10,118 --> 00:45:12,158 and his interest in the Scottsboro Boys case 974 00:45:12,237 --> 00:45:13,842 and in early civil fights. 975 00:45:13,917 --> 00:45:15,161 Speaking out, which you could only do 976 00:45:15,237 --> 00:45:16,645 if you were an independent. 977 00:45:16,718 --> 00:45:18,201 - Orson Welles: My own loyalty is greater 978 00:45:18,277 --> 00:45:21,125 to the idea of myself as a member of the human family 979 00:45:21,197 --> 00:45:25,081 than it is to a- as a member of any profession. 980 00:45:25,157 --> 00:45:28,158 I don't take art as seriously as politics. 981 00:45:30,718 --> 00:45:34,078 - Rosenbaum: One of the great things about Welles as a filmmaker 982 00:45:34,157 --> 00:45:36,044 is him capturing the periods... 983 00:45:36,117 --> 00:45:38,757 of whenever he was making the film, 984 00:45:38,837 --> 00:45:41,118 the paranoia of what was going on in America. 985 00:45:41,197 --> 00:45:43,445 It's really reflected in "Othello. " 986 00:45:43,517 --> 00:45:44,881 - Orson Welles: Black Othello, the outsider, 987 00:45:44,958 --> 00:45:45,918 the mercenary, the foreigner, 988 00:45:45,997 --> 00:45:48,038 must feel a certain insecurity 989 00:45:48,118 --> 00:45:51,599 when he contemplates this curious conquest of his: 990 00:45:51,678 --> 00:45:53,838 The senator's daughter who fled from her palace 991 00:45:53,917 --> 00:45:56,198 in the dead of night to marry a black man-. 992 00:45:56,277 --> 00:45:59,125 - Man: It's partly a kind of an atmosphere and a mood, 993 00:45:59,197 --> 00:46:01,326 but it's like a horror film. 994 00:46:09,638 --> 00:46:12,202 - Has he said anything? - I know not what he- 995 00:46:12,277 --> 00:46:13,717 - What, what? 996 00:46:13,797 --> 00:46:15,684 - Lying. 997 00:46:17,237 --> 00:46:18,885 - Lie with her? 998 00:46:18,957 --> 00:46:22,646 - With her. On her. 999 00:46:22,717 --> 00:46:23,961 What you will. 1000 00:46:25,997 --> 00:46:29,718 - Orson Welles: Came to Mogador on the west coast of Africa to shoot. 1001 00:46:29,797 --> 00:46:31,881 We got a telegram- Scalera, with whom I had 1002 00:46:31,957 --> 00:46:33,441 a contract to make the picture, 1003 00:46:33,518 --> 00:46:34,522 had gone bankrupt. 1004 00:46:34,597 --> 00:46:36,801 We had no costumes, nothing. 1005 00:46:36,877 --> 00:46:40,118 That was the big scene of the murder of Rodrigo. 1006 00:46:40,197 --> 00:46:43,318 And what can you shoot without costumes? 1007 00:46:43,398 --> 00:46:45,362 That's a Turkish bath. 1008 00:46:45,438 --> 00:46:49,606 Nothing was designed, everything had to be found-. 1009 00:46:49,677 --> 00:46:50,998 We had to do it 1010 00:46:51,078 --> 00:46:52,245 with whatever money I could raise 1011 00:46:52,318 --> 00:46:54,925 and stop until I raised some more. 1012 00:46:54,997 --> 00:46:57,801 Now, that took almost four years. 1013 00:46:57,877 --> 00:46:59,645 Now, there are still people today who say, 1014 00:46:59,718 --> 00:47:01,038 "I don't want to hire Welles as a director," 1015 00:47:01,117 --> 00:47:03,681 it took him four years to make 'Othello. '" 1016 00:47:04,997 --> 00:47:07,245 - Peter Bogdanovich: "Othello" was his own production. 1017 00:47:07,637 --> 00:47:10,758 However, there are various versions of it. 1018 00:47:10,837 --> 00:47:12,245 There's his version, and then there's a version 1019 00:47:12,317 --> 00:47:13,845 that Beatrice redid. 1020 00:47:13,917 --> 00:47:16,165 - Called some friends who were in the business, 1021 00:47:16,237 --> 00:47:18,081 the movie business, and so I said, 1022 00:47:18,157 --> 00:47:20,558 "Where do you think one could find, you know, 1023 00:47:20,637 --> 00:47:24,206 a negative or whatever is left of 'Othello'?" 1024 00:47:24,277 --> 00:47:26,121 And they ended up finding it 1025 00:47:26,197 --> 00:47:28,717 in some lab in New Jersey. 1026 00:47:28,798 --> 00:47:30,926 It really was in perfect condition. 1027 00:47:30,997 --> 00:47:32,677 - They made, I think, a few mistakes. 1028 00:47:43,957 --> 00:47:45,398 - In June of 1955, 1029 00:47:45,477 --> 00:47:48,238 He finally got round to nailing "Moby Dick. " 1030 00:47:48,317 --> 00:47:51,765 Of course, he'd appeared in John Huston's movie of it. 1031 00:47:51,838 --> 00:47:54,806 He staged what he called "Moby Dick Rehearsed" here. 1032 00:47:54,877 --> 00:47:58,281 It only ran for three-and-a-half weeks, 1033 00:47:58,357 --> 00:48:00,441 but I think it's one of the landmarks 1034 00:48:00,517 --> 00:48:02,361 in British theater of the 1950s, 1035 00:48:02,437 --> 00:48:03,965 and it's certainly a great landmark 1036 00:48:04,038 --> 00:48:05,762 in Wells' own life. 1037 00:48:05,837 --> 00:48:07,397 They'd filmed a little bit of it. 1038 00:48:07,477 --> 00:48:09,441 The possibility is that it was impounded 1039 00:48:09,518 --> 00:48:12,158 by the tax people here, 1040 00:48:12,237 --> 00:48:14,878 that it was lost, that somebody stole it. 1041 00:48:14,957 --> 00:48:17,881 A very Wellesian episode altogether. 1042 00:48:17,957 --> 00:48:20,085 - Hands off, you two are of mankind! 1043 00:48:20,157 --> 00:48:22,645 Old Ahab stands alone 1044 00:48:22,717 --> 00:48:24,877 among the millions of the peopled Earth, 1045 00:48:24,957 --> 00:48:27,402 nor gods nor men his neighbors. 1046 00:48:27,477 --> 00:48:28,678 Cut, no good. 1047 00:48:31,917 --> 00:48:34,165 - Sir Peter Brook: Television was the medium 1048 00:48:34,277 --> 00:48:37,081 for great freedom and experiment. 1049 00:48:37,157 --> 00:48:38,881 We started working. 1050 00:48:38,957 --> 00:48:43,682 Both of us believed that you don't hang on to any idea, 1051 00:48:43,757 --> 00:48:45,241 but the moment that you'd had an idea, 1052 00:48:45,318 --> 00:48:46,845 and you begin to try it, 1053 00:48:46,917 --> 00:48:48,805 that leads to you think of something else. 1054 00:48:48,877 --> 00:48:51,758 And then, as I was doing that, turn around, 1055 00:48:51,957 --> 00:48:54,281 "Yes, Peter, but what if, instead of that, 1056 00:48:54,357 --> 00:48:55,645 "we started with him here, 1057 00:48:55,717 --> 00:48:57,726 and he leapt over to that point?" 1058 00:48:57,798 --> 00:48:59,205 - Blow winds-... 1059 00:48:59,277 --> 00:49:03,402 - Orson suddenly took off with tremendous passion. 1060 00:49:03,477 --> 00:49:04,678 - Rage... blow... 1061 00:49:06,877 --> 00:49:08,764 You cataracts and hurricanoes! 1062 00:49:08,837 --> 00:49:10,757 - One thing one can be sure is that 1063 00:49:10,837 --> 00:49:13,521 there wasn't before him an Orson, 1064 00:49:13,597 --> 00:49:14,917 and there'll never be a second. 1065 00:49:14,997 --> 00:49:20,082 - I think I made, essentially, a mistake in staying in movies, 1066 00:49:20,158 --> 00:49:21,446 because I... but it... 1067 00:49:21,517 --> 00:49:23,122 It's a mistake I can't regret, 1068 00:49:23,197 --> 00:49:25,238 because it's like saying, 1069 00:49:25,317 --> 00:49:27,358 "I shouldn't have stayed married to that woman, 1070 00:49:27,437 --> 00:49:28,757 but I did because I love her. " 1071 00:49:30,157 --> 00:49:32,002 - Julie Taymor: In theater, you're in space, 1072 00:49:32,077 --> 00:49:34,118 and the lighting can focus 1073 00:49:34,197 --> 00:49:35,845 where you want the audience to look, 1074 00:49:35,917 --> 00:49:39,082 but, in general, the audience can look anywhere they want. 1075 00:49:39,157 --> 00:49:41,121 The actual complete manipulation 1076 00:49:41,197 --> 00:49:43,281 of the image is something you can do in film. 1077 00:49:47,597 --> 00:49:51,241 - I can't change this condition of love, 1078 00:49:51,317 --> 00:49:53,640 but I think I would be better off without it. 1079 00:49:55,757 --> 00:49:57,481 - Orson Welles narrating: On December 25th, 1080 00:49:57,557 --> 00:50:00,318 an aeroplane was sighted off the coast of Barcelona. 1081 00:50:00,397 --> 00:50:02,481 It was flying empty. 1082 00:50:02,557 --> 00:50:04,837 This motion picture is a fictionalized reconstruction 1083 00:50:04,917 --> 00:50:06,641 of the events leading up 1084 00:50:06,717 --> 00:50:08,397 to the appearance of the empty plane. 1085 00:50:14,517 --> 00:50:16,558 - ... was talking to you, what was it? 1086 00:50:16,637 --> 00:50:18,721 - ... it was just a name. He was dying. 1087 00:50:18,797 --> 00:50:19,998 - Man: What name was it? 1088 00:50:20,077 --> 00:50:21,245 - Arkadin. 1089 00:50:21,317 --> 00:50:24,919 - It's a story about a- a high financier, 1090 00:50:24,997 --> 00:50:27,682 a man of many countries 1091 00:50:27,757 --> 00:50:28,925 and three passports. 1092 00:50:28,997 --> 00:50:31,081 In the morning, I think it's splendid, 1093 00:50:31,157 --> 00:50:33,405 in the evening, I wonder. 1094 00:50:33,477 --> 00:50:36,358 - Woman: How much obligation do you feel to a mass audience? 1095 00:50:36,437 --> 00:50:39,721 - I would love to have a mass audience. 1096 00:50:39,797 --> 00:50:42,318 - I knew what I wanted. 1097 00:50:42,397 --> 00:50:44,317 That's the difference between us. 1098 00:50:44,397 --> 00:50:48,041 - Did my poverty help my creativity? 1099 00:50:48,117 --> 00:50:49,721 Uh, no. 1100 00:51:10,597 --> 00:51:13,445 Ladies and gentlemen, please. 1101 00:51:13,517 --> 00:51:15,601 I must beg you 1102 00:51:15,677 --> 00:51:18,404 not to make the slightest sound, 1103 00:51:18,477 --> 00:51:22,198 as the princess is in a state of trance. 1104 00:51:23,637 --> 00:51:25,197 - Orson really, it seems to me, 1105 00:51:25,277 --> 00:51:26,881 just wants to work. 1106 00:51:26,957 --> 00:51:30,045 But at the same time, there is something in him 1107 00:51:30,117 --> 00:51:33,761 that drives him to alienate the people with the money. 1108 00:51:33,837 --> 00:51:36,402 - Excuse me, sir? 1109 00:51:36,477 --> 00:51:38,801 - Yes? 1110 00:51:38,877 --> 00:51:41,245 - Well, I'm a young filmmaker and a real bi fan. 1111 00:51:41,317 --> 00:51:44,601 I- I just wanted to meet you. 1112 00:51:44,677 --> 00:51:46,761 - My pleasure, I'm Orson Welles. 1113 00:51:46,837 --> 00:51:49,445 - I'm... Edward D. Wood, Jr. 1114 00:51:52,116 --> 00:51:53,961 What you working on? 1115 00:51:54,036 --> 00:51:55,804 - Well, the financing just fell through 1116 00:51:55,877 --> 00:51:57,601 for the third time on "Don Quixote. " 1117 00:51:57,677 --> 00:52:00,197 I hate when that happens. 1118 00:52:00,277 --> 00:52:04,402 - Man: He had just done a picture for Universal as an actor. 1119 00:52:07,197 --> 00:52:11,202 They asked him to play the heavy in this thing. 1120 00:52:11,277 --> 00:52:14,245 He needed the money, so he said okay. 1121 00:52:14,317 --> 00:52:16,358 - I said, "Who's gonna direct it?" 1122 00:52:16,437 --> 00:52:17,964 And he says, "Well, we haven't picked a director yet. 1123 00:52:18,036 --> 00:52:20,404 We have Orson Welles to do the heavy, though. " 1124 00:52:20,477 --> 00:52:22,245 This was on the long-distance phone, 1125 00:52:22,317 --> 00:52:25,285 and after a static-filled pause, 1126 00:52:25,357 --> 00:52:28,477 I said, "Why don't you have him direct it? 1127 00:52:28,557 --> 00:52:30,925 He's a pretty good director, you know. " 1128 00:52:30,997 --> 00:52:33,038 And the reaction at first 1129 00:52:33,117 --> 00:52:34,917 was a prolonged silence as though 1130 00:52:34,997 --> 00:52:37,878 I had suggested that my mother direct the film. 1131 00:52:37,957 --> 00:52:39,365 - Ed... 1132 00:52:40,477 --> 00:52:41,481 - Yes? 1133 00:52:41,557 --> 00:52:43,881 - Visions are worth fighting for. 1134 00:52:43,956 --> 00:52:48,398 Why spend your life making someone else's dreams? 1135 00:52:48,477 --> 00:52:50,038 - I said, "I'll direct it, 1136 00:52:50,117 --> 00:52:52,081 "but if I also get to write it. 1137 00:52:52,157 --> 00:52:54,165 Every word of it, an entirely new script. " 1138 00:52:54,237 --> 00:52:55,241 They said yes. 1139 00:52:55,317 --> 00:52:56,878 - You won't have any trouble with me. 1140 00:52:56,957 --> 00:52:59,597 - You bet your sweet life I won't. 1141 00:52:59,677 --> 00:53:02,001 - Charlton Heston: "Touch of Evil" is, of course, really 1142 00:53:02,076 --> 00:53:04,357 the story of the decline and fall of Captain Quinlan, 1143 00:53:04,437 --> 00:53:05,725 Orson's part. 1144 00:53:05,797 --> 00:53:09,997 - Orson Welles: He's everything we- we hate. 1145 00:53:10,077 --> 00:53:13,242 But he isn't what we hate, it's his method, 1146 00:53:13,316 --> 00:53:15,957 and it's that ambiguity 1147 00:53:16,037 --> 00:53:17,957 which gives tension to a story. 1148 00:53:21,117 --> 00:53:23,638 They loved the rushes. 1149 00:53:25,557 --> 00:53:28,121 Then they saw a rough cut of it, 1150 00:53:28,197 --> 00:53:30,041 they were so horrified that they... 1151 00:53:30,117 --> 00:53:33,402 wouldn't let me in the studio. 1152 00:53:33,476 --> 00:53:34,960 I gave a dinner party 1153 00:53:35,037 --> 00:53:36,520 not long after I started the picture 1154 00:53:36,597 --> 00:53:40,045 for all my old producer friends and big star friends, 1155 00:53:40,117 --> 00:53:42,321 the old Hollywood brigade. 1156 00:53:42,396 --> 00:53:43,804 I was a little late, 1157 00:53:43,877 --> 00:53:45,525 so they were all there having their drinks on. 1158 00:53:45,597 --> 00:53:47,845 I came in, in order to arrive in time 1159 00:53:47,917 --> 00:53:50,644 in my makeup and costume. 1160 00:53:50,717 --> 00:53:52,245 And they all said, "How are you, Orson? 1161 00:53:52,317 --> 00:53:54,117 You're looking great. " 1162 00:53:55,477 --> 00:53:57,638 It was too dark for them, too strange. 1163 00:54:03,717 --> 00:54:06,641 - Welles had been fired off the film, 1164 00:54:06,717 --> 00:54:08,517 kicked off the Lot. 1165 00:54:08,596 --> 00:54:10,757 He wrote this 58-page memo 1166 00:54:10,837 --> 00:54:13,564 about what should happen to the movie, 1167 00:54:13,637 --> 00:54:15,557 um, and pretty much, 1168 00:54:15,637 --> 00:54:19,642 Universal at the time took the memo and tossed it. 1169 00:54:22,917 --> 00:54:24,925 It's not like with "Magnificent Ambersons," 1170 00:54:24,997 --> 00:54:26,765 as if we found the missing last reel, 1171 00:54:26,836 --> 00:54:29,957 but the film became more itself. 1172 00:54:30,037 --> 00:54:32,437 Orson, above everything else, 1173 00:54:32,517 --> 00:54:35,278 was a master filmmaker and knew exactly 1174 00:54:35,357 --> 00:54:37,244 how to make a film, 1175 00:54:37,317 --> 00:54:39,521 as it turned out, from beyond the grave. 1176 00:54:43,797 --> 00:54:45,684 In Welles' memo, 1177 00:54:45,756 --> 00:54:48,321 he said two thins about the opening shot. 1178 00:54:48,397 --> 00:54:51,485 He didn't want titles over it, 1179 00:54:51,557 --> 00:54:54,001 and he wanted a montage 1180 00:54:54,077 --> 00:54:55,877 of different music tracks. 1181 00:55:00,436 --> 00:55:03,797 At that time, this was seen as a B-movie. 1182 00:55:03,876 --> 00:55:06,124 It was very rare that somebody 1183 00:55:06,196 --> 00:55:07,801 would not have titles 1184 00:55:07,877 --> 00:55:09,917 At the beginning of a film in a B-movie. 1185 00:55:11,317 --> 00:55:13,281 So there they are, walking through the town, 1186 00:55:13,357 --> 00:55:15,124 and oop, there's that music, 1187 00:55:15,197 --> 00:55:18,045 and there's a car, and, right now- 1188 00:55:18,116 --> 00:55:21,117 boonk!- that car could've blown up. 1189 00:55:21,197 --> 00:55:23,041 Whereas- but if there are titles over that, 1190 00:55:23,117 --> 00:55:24,917 you just know it's not gonna blow up. 1191 00:55:24,996 --> 00:55:26,884 So by removing the titles 1192 00:55:26,957 --> 00:55:29,761 and having this sort of freeform music, 1193 00:55:29,837 --> 00:55:31,965 it puts a suspense under this scene 1194 00:55:32,037 --> 00:55:35,245 that didn't really exist before. 1195 00:55:35,317 --> 00:55:37,640 He'd spent those years in radio doing 1196 00:55:37,716 --> 00:55:39,124 exactly this kind of stuff. 1197 00:55:39,197 --> 00:55:40,441 We did this in "American Graffiti," 1198 00:55:40,517 --> 00:55:42,241 which was the same kind of thing. 1199 00:55:42,317 --> 00:55:44,565 - George Lucas: What we called "worldization" of the sound, 1200 00:55:44,637 --> 00:55:45,957 which is to make it sound like it was 1201 00:55:46,037 --> 00:55:48,078 in the environment in "American Graffiti," 1202 00:55:48,156 --> 00:55:50,240 and having it pass by in cars and that sort of thing, 1203 00:55:50,317 --> 00:55:53,525 which Welles had already thought of in "Touch of Evil. " 1204 00:55:53,597 --> 00:55:54,918 I think both Walter and I were 1205 00:55:54,996 --> 00:55:57,997 very charmed by that- that whole concept. 1206 00:55:58,077 --> 00:56:02,277 He's definitely way ahead of all the rest of us. 1207 00:56:07,557 --> 00:56:10,318 - Fell, Hank was a great detective all right. 1208 00:56:10,396 --> 00:56:12,884 - And a lousy cop. 1209 00:56:12,957 --> 00:56:14,725 - Is that all you have to say for him? 1210 00:56:15,996 --> 00:56:18,157 - He was some kind of a man. 1211 00:56:21,277 --> 00:56:23,797 What does it matter what you say about people? 1212 00:56:31,277 --> 00:56:34,158 - Quinlan: Goodbye, Tana. 1213 00:56:34,236 --> 00:56:35,480 - Adios. 1214 00:56:35,557 --> 00:56:37,281 - Adios. 1215 00:56:38,356 --> 00:56:39,523 Wow, huh? 1216 00:56:39,596 --> 00:56:42,357 You know, Welles didn't even want to do this movie, 1217 00:56:42,437 --> 00:56:44,281 but you know, sometimes you do your best work 1218 00:56:44,357 --> 00:56:46,638 when you got a gun to your head. 1219 00:56:48,557 --> 00:56:51,765 - Orson Welles: I do think working for posterity is vulgar. 1220 00:56:55,636 --> 00:56:58,964 Because posterity is just as big a whore 1221 00:56:59,037 --> 00:57:01,001 as the present. 1222 00:57:01,077 --> 00:57:05,125 - Filmmakers of today can do what they do because Orson did it. 1223 00:57:05,197 --> 00:57:06,605 Every art form that I know 1224 00:57:06,677 --> 00:57:08,564 has somebody who blazed new trails, 1225 00:57:08,637 --> 00:57:10,317 and their influence starts being felt 1226 00:57:10,397 --> 00:57:11,805 about a generation later. 1227 00:57:11,877 --> 00:57:14,681 - Plato told us that we should know ourselves, 1228 00:57:14,757 --> 00:57:18,117 and the object of every artist, 1229 00:57:18,197 --> 00:57:20,281 good, bad or indifferent, 1230 00:57:20,357 --> 00:57:24,285 is a lifelong inquiry into that subject, 1231 00:57:24,357 --> 00:57:28,121 and his work is testimony to that effort, 1232 00:57:28,197 --> 00:57:31,045 but I'm in no position to sum myself up. 1233 00:57:31,117 --> 00:57:32,765 - It's a peculiar thing. When you have an artist 1234 00:57:32,837 --> 00:57:35,084 who works so outside the box, 1235 00:57:35,156 --> 00:57:37,121 not everybody gets it at the time. 1236 00:57:37,196 --> 00:57:41,005 - Do you know that I always liked Hollywood very much? 1237 00:57:41,077 --> 00:57:42,637 It just wasn't reciprocated. 1238 00:58:02,836 --> 00:58:06,001 - Costa-Gavras: He freed the directors 1239 00:58:06,077 --> 00:58:08,761 from the kind of static ways 1240 00:58:08,837 --> 00:58:11,041 they used to have about the way you light, 1241 00:58:11,117 --> 00:58:12,961 about the way you put your camera, 1242 00:58:13,037 --> 00:58:15,764 the way you have the setting and so forth, 1243 00:58:15,837 --> 00:58:19,242 and it's very clear in "The Trial," the Kafka. 1244 00:58:19,316 --> 00:58:20,844 He didn't do really Kafka. 1245 00:58:20,916 --> 00:58:22,957 He did Orson Welles' Kafka. 1246 00:58:33,676 --> 00:58:35,563 - Orson Welles: I was living in a hotel on Tuileries, 1247 00:58:35,636 --> 00:58:38,397 pacing up and down in my bedroom, 1248 00:58:38,476 --> 00:58:40,484 looking out the window. 1249 00:58:40,556 --> 00:58:42,356 And I'm not such a fool 1250 00:58:42,437 --> 00:58:45,164 as not to take the moon very seriously, 1251 00:58:45,236 --> 00:58:47,484 and I saw the moon, very large, 1252 00:58:47,597 --> 00:58:51,525 what we in America call a harvest moon, enormous. 1253 00:58:51,597 --> 00:58:54,521 And then, miraculously, two of them. 1254 00:58:54,597 --> 00:58:56,605 And on each moon, there were numbers, 1255 00:58:56,677 --> 00:58:58,685 and I realized they were the clock faces 1256 00:58:58,757 --> 00:59:01,005 of the Gare d'Orsay. 1257 00:59:01,077 --> 00:59:03,925 And I remembered that the Gare d'Orsay was empty. 1258 00:59:03,996 --> 00:59:06,244 And at 5:30 in the morning, I went downstairs, 1259 00:59:06,316 --> 00:59:08,357 got in a cab, crossed the Seine, 1260 00:59:08,436 --> 00:59:12,081 and entered this empty railway station 1261 00:59:12,157 --> 00:59:14,677 where I discovered the world of Kafka. 1262 00:59:19,557 --> 00:59:23,441 - Orson fellas narrating: It has been said that the logic of this story 1263 00:59:23,516 --> 00:59:26,037 is the logic of a dream. 1264 00:59:26,116 --> 00:59:27,360 - Come with me, Mr. K. 1265 00:59:44,316 --> 00:59:46,040 - Anthony Perkins: Orson's view of Josef K. 1266 00:59:46,116 --> 00:59:49,160 Was that, far from being the innocent victim 1267 00:59:49,236 --> 00:59:52,641 of bureaucracy that Kafka had written that- 1268 00:59:52,716 --> 00:59:55,237 but, in Orson's version, 1269 00:59:55,316 --> 00:59:56,483 and I can hear him saying, 1270 00:59:56,556 --> 00:59:57,680 I can hear his thundering voice, 1271 00:59:57,756 --> 00:59:59,316 "He's guilty as hell. " 1272 01:00:00,956 --> 01:00:02,801 - Costa-Gavras: He would like to tell a story 1273 01:00:02,876 --> 01:00:06,478 to make a metaphor about his vision of the world, 1274 01:00:06,556 --> 01:00:09,196 speaking about how we can feel guilty 1275 01:00:09,276 --> 01:00:10,836 without being guilty. 1276 01:00:10,916 --> 01:00:13,361 - You came to see me about this case, that's good. 1277 01:00:15,876 --> 01:00:18,920 - Orson Welles: I saw it as a European story, 1278 01:00:18,996 --> 01:00:21,680 full of old European bric-a-brac, 1279 01:00:21,756 --> 01:00:26,285 With IBM machines lurking in the background. 1280 01:00:26,357 --> 01:00:28,124 - Costa-Gavras: You think it's a major movie, 1281 01:00:28,196 --> 01:00:30,444 whatever the critics said about it. 1282 01:00:32,636 --> 01:00:33,837 - There really wasn't indie filmmaking 1283 01:00:33,917 --> 01:00:35,717 in the '40s, '50s, 1284 01:00:35,796 --> 01:00:37,684 you know, when Welles was doing it. 1285 01:00:38,796 --> 01:00:39,756 He wasn't happy doing it. 1286 01:00:39,837 --> 01:00:40,884 He had no choice. 1287 01:00:41,916 --> 01:00:44,404 - Orson Welles: There's a new moment in filmmaking. 1288 01:00:44,477 --> 01:00:46,637 It's not that we're better, the filmmakers, 1289 01:00:46,716 --> 01:00:48,844 but that the distribution system 1290 01:00:48,916 --> 01:00:50,204 has broken down a little, 1291 01:00:50,276 --> 01:00:53,920 and the public is more open, more ready 1292 01:00:53,996 --> 01:00:55,000 for difficult subjects. 1293 01:00:55,076 --> 01:00:56,604 Imagine what it means for me 1294 01:00:56,677 --> 01:00:58,237 to have had the chance to make it. 1295 01:00:58,317 --> 01:01:00,445 Indeed, to have had the chance to work. 1296 01:01:05,477 --> 01:01:07,681 - He was an unbeatable man. 1297 01:01:07,756 --> 01:01:09,044 You couldn't, you know, if- 1298 01:01:09,116 --> 01:01:10,600 Something didn't work, 1299 01:01:10,677 --> 01:01:12,957 he said, "Okay, let's move forward," 1300 01:01:13,036 --> 01:01:14,520 and he would do another thing 1301 01:01:14,596 --> 01:01:16,037 and one other thing. 1302 01:01:16,116 --> 01:01:17,916 There was no way of stopping him. 1303 01:01:20,636 --> 01:01:23,081 I said once to him, "My God, you looked 1304 01:01:23,157 --> 01:01:24,324 wonderful in 'Jane Eyre!" 1305 01:01:24,397 --> 01:01:25,924 That's the first time I saw him. 1306 01:01:25,996 --> 01:01:27,884 And he said, "Yeah, 1307 01:01:27,957 --> 01:01:31,197 but you should have seen the corset I had. " 1308 01:01:31,276 --> 01:01:33,163 We are on the Dalmatian Coast, 1309 01:01:33,236 --> 01:01:35,244 on the Adriatic. 1310 01:01:35,316 --> 01:01:37,717 Down there is a small place 1311 01:01:37,796 --> 01:01:40,241 called Primosten where we shot "Dead Reckoning," 1312 01:01:40,317 --> 01:01:42,401 later entitled "The Deep," 1313 01:01:42,477 --> 01:01:44,081 with Lawrence Harvey, Jeanne Moreau, 1314 01:01:44,157 --> 01:01:45,640 Orson Welles, myself. 1315 01:01:45,716 --> 01:01:46,720 Jeanne Moreau 1316 01:01:46,796 --> 01:01:48,716 I was pretty girl when I was young. 1317 01:01:48,797 --> 01:01:51,404 No woman ever looked at me like this. 1318 01:01:51,476 --> 01:01:54,161 He said, "Jeanne, I don't want to- 1319 01:01:54,236 --> 01:01:56,560 "I don't want to be rude, but you're not the age 1320 01:01:56,637 --> 01:01:58,524 of playing a young bride. " 1321 01:01:58,596 --> 01:02:00,560 Look, I don't care what these people are 1322 01:02:00,636 --> 01:02:02,120 going to think of me. 1323 01:02:02,196 --> 01:02:03,484 I'm not in the movie business, 1324 01:02:03,556 --> 01:02:06,001 I'm 72 years old, I want to have a farm, 1325 01:02:06,077 --> 01:02:07,637 I dream of chickens, literally, 1326 01:02:07,717 --> 01:02:09,801 and have a donkey and a dog and so on, 1327 01:02:09,876 --> 01:02:12,604 so I'm going to tell anything that comes into my mind. 1328 01:02:12,677 --> 01:02:16,605 I was in the elevator, and Polanski stepped in, 1329 01:02:16,676 --> 01:02:18,476 and he said to me, "You know, 1330 01:02:18,557 --> 01:02:21,044 "I was thinking of using Orson, 1331 01:02:21,116 --> 01:02:23,561 "but I hear that 1332 01:02:23,637 --> 01:02:28,121 "he's late on the set, that he's difficult. 1333 01:02:28,196 --> 01:02:30,083 I'm not very sure. " 1334 01:02:30,156 --> 01:02:31,640 I said, "If you are not sure, 1335 01:02:31,717 --> 01:02:33,037 don't engage him. " 1336 01:02:33,117 --> 01:02:36,357 He would have been the happiest man in the world 1337 01:02:36,436 --> 01:02:39,317 if Geraldine, whatever her name is, 1338 01:02:39,397 --> 01:02:40,880 came and said, "Orson, 1339 01:02:40,956 --> 01:02:42,876 this is your son," you know? 1340 01:02:42,956 --> 01:02:45,324 I hear that the guy is very good-looking 1341 01:02:45,396 --> 01:02:47,437 on top of everything, it would be wonderful. 1342 01:02:49,957 --> 01:02:51,245 They were showing Magnificent Ambersons“ 1343 01:02:51,316 --> 01:02:52,800 in the middle of the night. 1344 01:02:52,876 --> 01:02:54,840 I see the light, 1345 01:02:54,917 --> 01:02:57,045 I go to the living room, 1346 01:02:57,117 --> 01:02:58,841 and, just before I open the door, 1347 01:02:58,916 --> 01:03:01,643 I see his reflection in the mirror, 1348 01:03:01,716 --> 01:03:04,324 and I see him crying. 1349 01:03:04,396 --> 01:03:06,557 And I don't open the door. 1350 01:03:07,797 --> 01:03:10,120 What's the use to cry? I do cry enough for Orson. 1351 01:03:10,196 --> 01:03:12,684 I cry... Too often. 1352 01:03:17,876 --> 01:03:20,441 But I also smile, 1353 01:03:20,516 --> 01:03:24,761 because I'm so happy that I have known him. 1354 01:03:26,317 --> 01:03:28,640 - Orson Welles: I think man is a crazy animal. 1355 01:03:30,996 --> 01:03:32,436 I think we are also- 1356 01:03:32,516 --> 01:03:34,557 I think we're also marvelous people, 1357 01:03:34,636 --> 01:03:37,757 divine in our potentialities. 1358 01:03:38,956 --> 01:03:40,276 You see, there you are. 1359 01:03:40,356 --> 01:03:42,080 You can say anything with passion and get a hand. 1360 01:03:48,556 --> 01:03:51,600 If you're going to try to finance movies and live, 1361 01:03:51,676 --> 01:03:53,760 you have to earn your money somehow. 1362 01:03:55,756 --> 01:03:58,037 Is there any man with a decent regard for human life 1363 01:03:58,116 --> 01:03:59,437 and the slightest bit of heart 1364 01:03:59,517 --> 01:04:03,881 who doesn't understand it? 1365 01:04:03,956 --> 01:04:06,640 I would have sold my soul to play the Godfather, 1366 01:04:06,716 --> 01:04:09,881 but I never get those parts offered to me-. 1367 01:04:12,156 --> 01:04:14,164 20 million years ago, 1368 01:04:14,236 --> 01:04:17,760 an ape-like creature inhabited the Earth. 1369 01:04:19,876 --> 01:04:22,080 I'm a kin actor, maybe a bad one. 1370 01:04:22,156 --> 01:04:24,000 They weren't necessarily the best actor, 1371 01:04:24,076 --> 01:04:26,084 they were the actor who played the king. 1372 01:04:26,156 --> 01:04:28,120 - Aah! - Aah! 1373 01:04:28,196 --> 01:04:31,164 - Mike Nichols knows how to deal with actors. 1374 01:04:31,236 --> 01:04:33,036 Orson would turn to Mike, 1375 01:04:33,117 --> 01:04:34,797 as, I guess, he did to every director 1376 01:04:34,876 --> 01:04:36,677 and say things like, 1377 01:04:36,756 --> 01:04:38,361 "You're really gonna do that shot 1378 01:04:38,436 --> 01:04:40,237 when you know you're not gonna need it?" 1379 01:04:40,316 --> 01:04:43,404 - Knucklehead fool! 1380 01:04:43,476 --> 01:04:44,960 You empty-headed yokel! 1381 01:04:46,596 --> 01:04:47,840 - Richard Benjamin: You say, "My God, I'm in a scene 1382 01:04:47,917 --> 01:04:49,521 "with Orson Welles, there's an actual 1383 01:04:49,596 --> 01:04:51,079 "piece of film in my life 1384 01:04:51,156 --> 01:04:53,076 that has Orson Welles in it. " 1385 01:04:53,277 --> 01:04:55,241 - I don't want the men to pay any attention to me, 1386 01:04:55,316 --> 01:04:57,041 just carry on as usual. 1387 01:04:57,117 --> 01:04:58,600 - Don't pay any attention to Dad, 1388 01:04:58,676 --> 01:04:59,680 just carry on as usual. 1389 01:04:59,756 --> 01:05:00,803 - Will you clam up? 1390 01:05:00,876 --> 01:05:02,884 - Orson Welles character: Money, money, money. 1391 01:05:02,956 --> 01:05:04,844 I never concern myself with this madness. 1392 01:05:06,556 --> 01:05:08,685 - Elvis Mitchell: There's this complete sort of self-knowledge 1393 01:05:08,756 --> 01:05:11,037 and almost the arrogance of an athlete, like, 1394 01:05:11,116 --> 01:05:13,843 the ownership of his body on camera 1395 01:05:13,916 --> 01:05:16,361 before he got to be, you know, the size of a Buick. 1396 01:05:16,436 --> 01:05:19,557 - My salads are... a bit complicated. 1397 01:05:19,636 --> 01:05:21,677 - But he would just slice through. 1398 01:05:21,756 --> 01:05:22,957 - Dinner, ho, dinner! 1399 01:05:24,916 --> 01:05:26,324 Would you take this away, please, 1400 01:05:26,396 --> 01:05:27,924 and... and bring me 1401 01:05:27,996 --> 01:05:29,763 The steak au poivre, thanks a lot. 1402 01:05:29,836 --> 01:05:32,597 - When I watched Orson Welles eat, 1403 01:05:32,676 --> 01:05:34,356 it was like... 1404 01:05:34,436 --> 01:05:36,596 somebody making love to the food. 1405 01:05:36,676 --> 01:05:38,280 He really loved to eat, 1406 01:05:39,077 --> 01:05:40,877 and you could see, his eyes lit up. 1407 01:05:40,956 --> 01:05:42,756 When he put that forkful in, 1408 01:05:42,836 --> 01:05:45,520 and his whole face was like a sunshine. 1409 01:05:45,596 --> 01:05:46,884 - You think he'd remember the lunch. 1410 01:05:46,956 --> 01:05:50,077 There was a marvelous mousse. 1411 01:05:50,156 --> 01:05:53,037 Got any donuts or sweet rolls? 1412 01:05:53,116 --> 01:05:55,396 - And he could describe every dish, 1413 01:05:55,476 --> 01:05:56,677 the way it tasted. 1414 01:05:56,756 --> 01:05:58,524 - Welles: Schwartzw�lder Torte... 1415 01:05:58,596 --> 01:05:59,884 Kugel... 1416 01:06:02,796 --> 01:06:04,040 Caf� cr�me Torte. 1417 01:06:04,116 --> 01:06:06,157 - Obviously, when you looked at him and said, you know, 1418 01:06:06,237 --> 01:06:08,277 this is not a guy who is on a diet. 1419 01:06:08,356 --> 01:06:10,996 Welles: 1420 01:06:11,076 --> 01:06:12,277 ...und Sachertorte. 1421 01:06:12,356 --> 01:06:14,724 How sweet it was- 1422 01:06:14,796 --> 01:06:18,604 - Even when he lost some idea of himself physically... 1423 01:06:18,676 --> 01:06:20,924 - Overweight, me? 1424 01:06:20,996 --> 01:06:23,364 - The words still had the same kind of precision 1425 01:06:23,436 --> 01:06:24,483 that his body once had. 1426 01:06:24,556 --> 01:06:27,196 - More... 1427 01:06:27,276 --> 01:06:29,163 Are you going to help me? 1428 01:06:32,196 --> 01:06:35,077 Have I your support, or have I not? 1429 01:06:35,156 --> 01:06:37,360 - No, Your Grace. 1430 01:06:37,436 --> 01:06:39,280 I'm not going to help you. 1431 01:06:41,956 --> 01:06:45,437 - Then good night, Master More. 1432 01:06:51,396 --> 01:06:52,879 - Simon Callow: You have to wait quite a long time 1433 01:06:52,956 --> 01:06:54,844 before Welles makes his masterpiece, 1434 01:06:54,916 --> 01:06:57,361 which in my view and the view of many other people 1435 01:06:57,436 --> 01:07:00,284 is Falstaff, the "Chimes at Midnight," 1436 01:07:00,356 --> 01:07:02,517 which is, to me, one of the great, 1437 01:07:02,596 --> 01:07:05,324 great achievements of filmmaking in the 20th century. 1438 01:07:05,396 --> 01:07:08,724 - Falstaff! Good night. 1439 01:07:08,796 --> 01:07:12,484 - Now comes in the sweetest morsel of the night. 1440 01:07:12,556 --> 01:07:13,800 And we must dance. 1441 01:07:14,756 --> 01:07:17,004 - Joseph McBride: I saw it three times in a row in one night 1442 01:07:17,076 --> 01:07:19,280 because I thought I might never see it again, 1443 01:07:19,356 --> 01:07:21,920 so you had intellectuals from the University of Chicago 1444 01:07:21,996 --> 01:07:23,197 and you had winos off the street, 1445 01:07:23,276 --> 01:07:25,240 and they all loved the film. 1446 01:07:25,316 --> 01:07:27,084 - This chair shall be the state 1447 01:07:27,156 --> 01:07:29,284 and this cushion... my crown. 1448 01:07:36,356 --> 01:07:38,800 - Simon Callow: Welles had, by now, mastered the art 1449 01:07:38,876 --> 01:07:40,720 of making independent films, 1450 01:07:40,796 --> 01:07:43,241 and making them in the way that he wanted to make them 1451 01:07:43,316 --> 01:07:44,997 in this kind of improvised way. 1452 01:07:46,596 --> 01:07:48,124 Although he had a script, of course, for it, 1453 01:07:48,196 --> 01:07:50,476 but he didn't stick very closely to the script. 1454 01:07:50,556 --> 01:07:52,717 Unless, of course, it was Shakespeare's words. 1455 01:07:52,796 --> 01:07:56,124 - What is honor? Air. 1456 01:07:56,196 --> 01:07:58,324 A trim reckoning! Who hath it? 1457 01:07:58,396 --> 01:08:01,440 He that died 0' Wednesday. Doth he feel it? No. 1458 01:08:01,516 --> 01:08:03,196 'Tis insensible then? Yea, to the dead. 1459 01:08:03,276 --> 01:08:05,437 But will it not live with the living? 1460 01:08:05,516 --> 01:08:07,121 No. Why? 1461 01:08:07,196 --> 01:08:08,560 The traction will not suffering. 1462 01:08:08,636 --> 01:08:10,164 Therefore, I'll none of it. 1463 01:08:39,476 --> 01:08:42,040 - Orson Welles: Violence always has been part of our story. 1464 01:08:42,116 --> 01:08:43,884 It is, you know, I've seen it 1465 01:08:43,955 --> 01:08:46,443 in my own lifetime long before this period, 1466 01:08:46,516 --> 01:08:49,277 and we certainly read about it in history. 1467 01:08:49,356 --> 01:08:52,160 That's the way we won the country and stole it away 1468 01:08:52,236 --> 01:08:54,123 from the Indians and all the rest of it. 1469 01:09:01,356 --> 01:09:03,801 - fellas: If I wanted to, uh, to get into heaven 1470 01:09:03,876 --> 01:09:06,276 on the basis of one movie, 1471 01:09:06,356 --> 01:09:08,397 that's the one I would offer up, 1472 01:09:08,476 --> 01:09:11,924 because it is, to me, the least flawed. 1473 01:09:11,996 --> 01:09:13,120 Let me put it that way. 1474 01:09:13,196 --> 01:09:16,284 - I banish thee, on pain of death, 1475 01:09:16,356 --> 01:09:19,564 as I have done the rest for my misleaders, 1476 01:09:19,636 --> 01:09:25,004 not to come near our person by 10 mile. 1477 01:09:25,076 --> 01:09:26,440 - Simon Callow: "Chimes at Midnight" is true, 1478 01:09:26,516 --> 01:09:28,240 through and through and through, 1479 01:09:28,316 --> 01:09:30,357 and is profound and is movin 1480 01:09:30,436 --> 01:09:32,837 and contains an absolute essence of Shakespeare 1481 01:09:32,915 --> 01:09:36,636 and an absolute essence of Orson Welles. 1482 01:09:37,995 --> 01:09:39,556 - Falstaff? 1483 01:09:39,635 --> 01:09:42,920 - Falstaff is dead. 1484 01:09:56,396 --> 01:10:00,040 - Simon Callow: It's human to the core. 1485 01:10:00,116 --> 01:10:04,241 - Jesus, the days that we have seen. 1486 01:10:10,556 --> 01:10:11,876 - Stefan Drossler: The Munich Film Museum 1487 01:10:11,956 --> 01:10:15,557 is part of the municipal museum. 1488 01:10:15,636 --> 01:10:18,363 We are very much caring 1489 01:10:18,436 --> 01:10:21,317 to keep the legacy of Orson Welles. 1490 01:10:22,596 --> 01:10:25,203 All the material Orson had 1491 01:10:25,276 --> 01:10:26,924 was shipped to Munich. 1492 01:10:30,276 --> 01:10:32,196 - Sometimes I try to imagine 1493 01:10:32,276 --> 01:10:36,324 Orson having different bedrooms in different motels and hotels, 1494 01:10:36,396 --> 01:10:39,724 and the doors to this room, bedroom is locked, 1495 01:10:39,796 --> 01:10:42,720 and under the bed are hidden, 1496 01:10:42,796 --> 01:10:45,436 you know, boxes and boxes of film. 1497 01:10:48,556 --> 01:10:51,960 - Stefan Drossler: Some believe these films look more amateurish 1498 01:10:52,036 --> 01:10:54,437 because they are not really Hollywood productions. 1499 01:10:54,515 --> 01:10:56,676 Many others see him as a hero 1500 01:10:56,756 --> 01:10:59,156 of the independent filmmaker. 1501 01:10:59,236 --> 01:11:01,843 The problem is only that, uh, 1502 01:11:01,916 --> 01:11:04,077 few of these films were really finished, 1503 01:11:04,156 --> 01:11:08,161 that he still was working and working and working on them. 1504 01:11:08,235 --> 01:11:09,643 - Pellegrina's dead. 1505 01:11:12,956 --> 01:11:15,640 I had no chance to say good-bye. 1506 01:11:15,716 --> 01:11:17,964 Will you do that for me? 1507 01:11:18,036 --> 01:11:21,517 - Everybody who is an intellectual artist 1508 01:11:21,596 --> 01:11:23,844 starts on many things 1509 01:11:23,916 --> 01:11:26,196 and sometimes doesn't complete them. 1510 01:11:26,276 --> 01:11:29,320 - Since it's my own little picture and I put my own money on it, 1511 01:11:29,396 --> 01:11:31,796 I don't know why they don't bug authors 1512 01:11:31,876 --> 01:11:34,004 and say, "When are you gonna finish 'Nelly,' 1513 01:11:34,076 --> 01:11:36,280 that novel you started 10 years ago?" 1514 01:11:36,355 --> 01:11:38,843 - If the wolf is not really at the door, 1515 01:11:38,916 --> 01:11:41,764 it's a big temptation to say, "Well, this isn't- 1516 01:11:41,835 --> 01:11:44,520 this isn't my best, I'm gonna put it away. " 1517 01:11:44,595 --> 01:11:46,036 - Orson Welles narrating: A newly-wedded couple 1518 01:11:46,115 --> 01:11:47,840 are here on their small yacht 1519 01:11:47,916 --> 01:11:50,360 cruising up the west coast of Africa 1520 01:11:50,436 --> 01:11:52,444 on their way to the Mediterranean. 1521 01:11:52,516 --> 01:11:53,957 Out in these waters, 1522 01:11:54,035 --> 01:11:56,763 they might expect to be very much alone, 1523 01:11:56,836 --> 01:11:59,204 but there's someone else out there. 1524 01:12:01,595 --> 01:12:05,763 - He said once, I'm not going to call Don Quixote "Don Quixote. " 1525 01:12:05,835 --> 01:12:08,684 I'm going to call it 'When Are You Going to Finish Don Quixote?" 1526 01:12:12,356 --> 01:12:14,636 - Stanley Kubrick had projects that he never completed. 1527 01:12:14,716 --> 01:12:17,717 The difference is, Welles actually got footage in the can, 1528 01:12:17,795 --> 01:12:19,520 as opposed to a number of projects by people 1529 01:12:19,596 --> 01:12:23,043 in much better financial position or industry position, 1530 01:12:23,115 --> 01:12:25,156 never even getting them off the round. 1531 01:12:25,236 --> 01:12:27,843 - Man: Are you happy when it's all done and cut 1532 01:12:27,915 --> 01:12:30,436 and goes out to be printed and into the movie houses? 1533 01:12:30,515 --> 01:12:32,283 - No. 1534 01:12:32,356 --> 01:12:34,843 No, because you always hope you can make it better. 1535 01:12:34,915 --> 01:12:36,879 - James Naremore: I don't think it's a... 1536 01:12:36,956 --> 01:12:38,920 at all any failure to want to finish 1537 01:12:38,996 --> 01:12:40,720 or be a fear of finishing or whatever. 1538 01:12:40,796 --> 01:12:42,564 That sounds like some kind of bizarre sexual malady. 1539 01:12:44,955 --> 01:12:46,843 - Eric Sherman: I don't know why he didn't finish it, 1540 01:12:46,916 --> 01:12:49,000 and I never asked him. 1541 01:12:49,076 --> 01:12:51,399 But we have an unbelievable body of work, 1542 01:12:51,476 --> 01:12:53,800 including the greatest film on Shakespeare: 1543 01:12:53,876 --> 01:12:56,036 "Falstaff," "Chimes at Midnight," 1544 01:12:56,116 --> 01:12:58,723 the short color film "Immortal Story," 1545 01:12:58,795 --> 01:13:00,595 one of the most brilliantly shot films ever. 1546 01:13:02,635 --> 01:13:05,920 Film after film was phenomenal. 1547 01:13:25,996 --> 01:13:28,319 - Henry Jaglom: The studios had lost interest in him, 1548 01:13:28,395 --> 01:13:31,516 and he could put together his projects in a more European way, 1549 01:13:31,596 --> 01:13:34,836 financially, getting bits of money from here and there. 1550 01:13:34,916 --> 01:13:37,960 So it was comfortable for him to be in Europe during that time. 1551 01:13:40,075 --> 01:13:42,956 - Orson Welles: The way I figure is that you've only got so much luck, 1552 01:13:43,036 --> 01:13:45,524 and it doesn't matter when it happens, 1553 01:13:45,596 --> 01:13:47,636 and I was incredibly lucky. 1554 01:13:54,916 --> 01:13:55,876 - Salud. 1555 01:13:58,516 --> 01:13:59,836 - So the central figure in this story 1556 01:13:59,916 --> 01:14:01,083 is the fellow with, you know, 1557 01:14:01,156 --> 01:14:02,357 who can hardly see through 1558 01:14:02,435 --> 01:14:04,040 the bush of the hair on his chest. 1559 01:14:05,276 --> 01:14:07,163 - reporters: Mr. Welles! Mr. Welles, please! 1560 01:14:08,956 --> 01:14:10,396 Thank you! 1561 01:14:10,476 --> 01:14:13,160 - Oh, I'm gain to go on being faithful to my girl-. 1562 01:14:13,235 --> 01:14:14,282 I love her. 1563 01:14:19,356 --> 01:14:21,800 In school, you should be making movies. 1564 01:14:23,435 --> 01:14:25,923 Not letting the professor tell you about 1565 01:14:25,995 --> 01:14:28,036 Eisenstein and D.W. Griffith. 1566 01:14:39,636 --> 01:14:41,403 - 'Cause up to that time, it was the seamless film, 1567 01:14:41,476 --> 01:14:43,517 in a way, um, the hidden camera. 1568 01:14:43,595 --> 01:14:46,116 The obtr- the camera that you couldn't tell was there. 1569 01:14:46,195 --> 01:14:48,596 So Welles was the one to really break open, 1570 01:14:48,675 --> 01:14:50,443 open up the Pandora's box. 1571 01:14:50,516 --> 01:14:54,564 In a funny way, I guess, picking up where silent films left off. 1572 01:14:58,515 --> 01:15:01,155 - Every single... 1573 01:15:01,235 --> 01:15:03,199 not just every scene, 1574 01:15:03,276 --> 01:15:05,884 but every shot has an idea. 1575 01:15:05,955 --> 01:15:07,800 There's a concept 1576 01:15:07,875 --> 01:15:11,597 and an idea being executed at every second. 1577 01:15:16,195 --> 01:15:18,563 - Welles stands kind of above everybody's work. 1578 01:15:18,636 --> 01:15:21,320 I think every filmmaker has some relation with Welles, 1579 01:15:21,395 --> 01:15:24,996 if nothing else, you know, he created the air we breathe 1580 01:15:25,076 --> 01:15:27,040 in that regard, you know? 1581 01:15:27,116 --> 01:15:29,244 He's sort of the patron saint of indie filmmakers. 1582 01:15:35,316 --> 01:15:36,516 - Elvis Mitchell: So much of what he did 1583 01:15:36,596 --> 01:15:37,556 came with quotation marks around it. 1584 01:15:37,635 --> 01:15:39,076 Postmodern. 1585 01:15:39,156 --> 01:15:41,643 And I think about just the beginning of "F for Fake. " 1586 01:15:41,715 --> 01:15:44,596 It's just all about saying, "This is what you're seeing 1587 01:15:44,676 --> 01:15:47,480 "and this is what I'm doing, and this is what you're seeing, 1588 01:15:47,556 --> 01:15:48,800 but this is what I'm doing. " 1589 01:15:48,875 --> 01:15:52,357 That sort of mirror-on-a-mirror effect. 1590 01:15:54,556 --> 01:15:56,836 - Orson Welles: It was a pretty great experience to start making 1591 01:15:56,915 --> 01:15:59,523 yet another movie with a storyline 1592 01:15:59,596 --> 01:16:01,516 rotten with coincidence. 1593 01:16:01,595 --> 01:16:05,556 For instance, that the author of "Fake," a book about a faker, 1594 01:16:05,636 --> 01:16:08,080 was himself a faker and the author of a fake 1595 01:16:08,156 --> 01:16:10,796 to end all fakes. 1596 01:16:10,876 --> 01:16:13,363 During the next hour, everything you'll hear from us 1597 01:16:13,435 --> 01:16:16,240 is really true and based on solid facts. 1598 01:16:16,315 --> 01:16:19,960 - Walter Murch: Not only are we aware of the edits as they go by, 1599 01:16:20,036 --> 01:16:23,483 but he's showing the editing process at the same time. 1600 01:16:23,555 --> 01:16:27,964 It's like watching a talented juggler do his job. 1601 01:16:28,036 --> 01:16:30,556 - This is a film about trickery. 1602 01:16:30,636 --> 01:16:32,720 Fraud.! 1603 01:16:32,796 --> 01:16:35,076 About lies. 1604 01:16:35,156 --> 01:16:37,043 Tell it by the fireside 1605 01:16:37,115 --> 01:16:39,156 or in a marketplace or in a movie. 1606 01:16:42,556 --> 01:16:46,681 - Walter Murch: Editing is cinema in a certain sense. 1607 01:16:46,755 --> 01:16:49,276 Because everything is broken into bits, 1608 01:16:49,355 --> 01:16:51,723 you can have a great deal of invention. 1609 01:16:55,876 --> 01:16:59,084 - Orson Welles: I did promise that for one hour, 1610 01:16:59,156 --> 01:17:01,000 I'd tell you only the truth. 1611 01:17:01,076 --> 01:17:03,837 That hour, ladies and gentlemen, is over. 1612 01:17:03,915 --> 01:17:07,484 For the past 17 minutes, I've been lying my head off. 1613 01:17:12,596 --> 01:17:16,796 - Elvis Mitchell: That kind of self-awareness is great for art. 1614 01:17:17,835 --> 01:17:20,562 He's part of that movement that includes Picasso 1615 01:17:20,635 --> 01:17:22,403 and Duke Ellington, all those artists 1616 01:17:22,476 --> 01:17:25,957 who were aware in a way that artists had not been before. 1617 01:17:27,355 --> 01:17:29,123 - Orson Welles: Our works are spared, 1618 01:17:29,196 --> 01:17:31,237 some of them for a few decades, 1619 01:17:31,315 --> 01:17:33,356 or a millennium or two. 1620 01:17:33,436 --> 01:17:35,880 The treasures. And the fakes. 1621 01:17:37,595 --> 01:17:39,799 Our songs. 1622 01:17:39,876 --> 01:17:45,157 Our songs will all be silenced. 1623 01:17:45,236 --> 01:17:47,396 But what of it? 1624 01:17:47,475 --> 01:17:49,920 Go on singing. 1625 01:17:58,035 --> 01:18:01,036 - Wow, how are you? 1626 01:18:01,115 --> 01:18:02,916 Orson Welles, ladies and gentlemen. 1627 01:18:04,795 --> 01:18:06,356 - Thank you. 1628 01:18:06,435 --> 01:18:08,563 Thank you very much. 1629 01:18:08,635 --> 01:18:09,999 - I... - Thank you. 1630 01:18:10,076 --> 01:18:11,364 Thank you all very much. 1631 01:18:11,436 --> 01:18:13,203 - I don't believe this, this is... 1632 01:18:13,275 --> 01:18:14,442 - Who is that? - That's the, uh, 1633 01:18:14,515 --> 01:18:15,475 That's our director, Mr. Welles. 1634 01:18:15,556 --> 01:18:16,919 - That... is a director? - Yeah. 1635 01:18:19,396 --> 01:18:21,240 - Heh heh. What? 1636 01:18:21,316 --> 01:18:22,799 I'm on my mark. 1637 01:18:24,196 --> 01:18:26,803 Yes, always. 1638 01:18:26,875 --> 01:18:28,163 Move your camera. 1639 01:18:39,235 --> 01:18:42,040 - He came back in the late '60s. 1640 01:18:42,115 --> 01:18:44,560 Films were beginning to be made in a different kind of a way. 1641 01:18:44,636 --> 01:18:46,436 - The money guys didn't trust him, 1642 01:18:46,515 --> 01:18:49,320 and they had good reason not to trust him. 1643 01:18:49,395 --> 01:18:52,800 It doesn't matter how great the material is. 1644 01:18:52,875 --> 01:18:55,243 Ultimately, it has to... 1645 01:18:55,316 --> 01:18:58,524 It has to pay off for somebody. 1646 01:18:58,596 --> 01:19:01,804 - We will sell no wine before its time. 1647 01:19:03,435 --> 01:19:06,436 - Orson Welles: We know a little place in the American far west 1648 01:19:06,515 --> 01:19:11,120 where Charlie Briggs chops up the finest prairie-fed beef and takes-... 1649 01:19:11,195 --> 01:19:13,279 This is a lot of shit, you know this? 1650 01:19:13,355 --> 01:19:15,920 Come on, fellas, you're losing your heads. 1651 01:19:17,396 --> 01:19:18,836 - Henry Jaglom: They all wanted to meet him, 1652 01:19:18,916 --> 01:19:20,399 they all wanted to have lunch with him, 1653 01:19:20,475 --> 01:19:22,003 they all celebrated him. 1654 01:19:22,076 --> 01:19:23,364 And then somehow, you know, 1655 01:19:23,436 --> 01:19:25,323 this man is not gonna be predictable. 1656 01:19:25,395 --> 01:19:27,915 Here's a scene from one film 1657 01:19:27,995 --> 01:19:29,316 that Orson is just finishing, 1658 01:19:29,395 --> 01:19:31,840 called "The Other Side of the Wind. " 1659 01:19:31,915 --> 01:19:33,443 I must say, it's a fascinating scene. 1660 01:19:33,515 --> 01:19:34,803 It's about a celebration 1661 01:19:34,875 --> 01:19:40,200 in honor of a famous movie director who is not Orson. 1662 01:19:40,275 --> 01:19:41,880 - Paul Mazursky: I get a phone call. 1663 01:19:41,956 --> 01:19:44,476 "Orson wants you to do his picture. " 1664 01:19:44,556 --> 01:19:46,160 I said, "Orson Welles? I don't know Orson Welles. 1665 01:19:46,235 --> 01:19:47,523 "He doesn't know me. 1666 01:19:47,635 --> 01:19:49,676 "L mean, I know 'Citizen Kane' is the- 1667 01:19:49,756 --> 01:19:52,560 "probably the best picture ever made, but why is- 1668 01:19:52,636 --> 01:19:54,196 Are you fucking around with me?" 1669 01:19:58,676 --> 01:19:59,876 I knocked at the door, 1670 01:19:59,955 --> 01:20:03,796 and I figure some lackey is gonna open the door. 1671 01:20:03,875 --> 01:20:06,199 The door opens and it's... 1672 01:20:06,275 --> 01:20:08,359 "Oh ho ho! Oh ho ho ho ho!" 1673 01:20:09,475 --> 01:20:12,203 "Oh ho ho! Ah ha ha ha ha. 1674 01:20:12,275 --> 01:20:15,002 "Paul Mazursky, come on in! 1675 01:20:15,075 --> 01:20:18,600 I'm making a film called 'The Other Side of the Wind. '" 1676 01:20:18,675 --> 01:20:20,400 - Orson Welles: We're going to shoot it without a script. 1677 01:20:20,475 --> 01:20:22,036 - Man: Without a script? 1678 01:20:22,115 --> 01:20:24,877 - We're gonna make the picture as though it were a documentary. 1679 01:20:24,955 --> 01:20:26,963 The actors are going to be improvising. 1680 01:20:27,035 --> 01:20:31,083 - He started in 1970 and he worked on it through his passing in '85. 1681 01:20:31,155 --> 01:20:34,680 I never saw Orson sleep. 1682 01:20:34,756 --> 01:20:36,916 - It was a stop-and-start situation. 1683 01:20:36,995 --> 01:20:40,039 It seemed to me that every time Orson got a little bit of money, 1684 01:20:40,115 --> 01:20:42,919 he would bring the cast back and start shooting again. 1685 01:20:42,995 --> 01:20:45,243 - I'm still confused about 1686 01:20:45,316 --> 01:20:48,284 the area of the magician, as director. 1687 01:20:48,355 --> 01:20:50,635 - This is crap! This is intellectual bullshit! 1688 01:20:50,715 --> 01:20:52,679 - Orson Welles: When I tell you that my partner 1689 01:20:52,755 --> 01:20:55,995 is the brother-in-law of the late Shah of Iran, 1690 01:20:56,075 --> 01:20:57,723 you will understand why we're having 1691 01:20:57,796 --> 01:20:59,323 a little legal difficulty. 1692 01:20:59,395 --> 01:21:01,239 - He owes me $25. 1693 01:21:01,315 --> 01:21:04,043 - Frank Marshall: I sort of felt that we would just 1694 01:21:04,115 --> 01:21:06,035 keep making the movie until he died. 1695 01:21:10,515 --> 01:21:13,920 - Let us raise our cups, then, 1696 01:21:13,995 --> 01:21:19,124 standing as some of us do on opposite ends of the river, 1697 01:21:19,196 --> 01:21:23,844 and drink together, to what really matters to us all... 1698 01:21:23,915 --> 01:21:27,679 to our crazy and beloved profession. 1699 01:21:27,755 --> 01:21:33,724 To the movies, to good movies, to every possible kind. 1700 01:21:33,795 --> 01:21:36,240 - Peter Bogdanovich: There is this terrible consolation of being 1701 01:21:36,315 --> 01:21:37,963 40 years ahead of your time. 1702 01:21:38,035 --> 01:21:40,283 I wish I'd be on time sometimes. 1703 01:21:40,355 --> 01:21:44,043 The night he won the Oscar, the special Oscar, 1704 01:21:44,115 --> 01:21:46,800 and he had asked John Huston to pick it up for him. 1705 01:21:46,875 --> 01:21:51,404 - "Genius" is a word that must be used very sparingly, 1706 01:21:51,475 --> 01:21:53,723 especially in this world of films. 1707 01:21:53,795 --> 01:21:55,803 - He said, "I'm- I'm not gonna go. " 1708 01:21:55,875 --> 01:21:57,119 I said, "Why not?" and he said, 1709 01:21:57,195 --> 01:21:58,678 "They're not gonna get that out of me. " 1710 01:21:58,755 --> 01:21:59,999 - On my way back to Ireland, 1711 01:22:00,075 --> 01:22:02,999 I'll stop in Spain and give him this. 1712 01:22:03,076 --> 01:22:05,880 - We were sitting at the Beverly Hills Hotel, 1713 01:22:05,956 --> 01:22:07,920 watching the Oscars, and Orson says, 1714 01:22:07,995 --> 01:22:09,796 "Yeah, come on right over, John!" 1715 01:22:11,275 --> 01:22:12,803 - Merv Griffin: You celebrated a big birthday, didn't you? 1716 01:22:12,875 --> 01:22:14,599 - Orson Welles: I didn't celebrate it, I just had it. 1717 01:22:15,955 --> 01:22:17,964 I used to pretend it was my birthday 1718 01:22:18,035 --> 01:22:20,119 when I took a girl out to dinner, 1719 01:22:20,195 --> 01:22:22,836 and then I'd have the waiter bring a cake in 1720 01:22:22,915 --> 01:22:24,476 and sing "Happy Birthday," 1721 01:22:24,555 --> 01:22:27,239 and I'd use that as an excuse to extend the evening. 1722 01:22:27,315 --> 01:22:28,679 Aha... 1723 01:22:31,715 --> 01:22:36,200 - I have a sentimental inclination toward hope. 1724 01:22:36,275 --> 01:22:39,036 I believe in bravery. 1725 01:22:39,115 --> 01:22:40,436 Worship it. 1726 01:22:40,515 --> 01:22:42,403 - Jeanne Moreau: To me, Orson 1727 01:22:42,475 --> 01:22:47,079 is so much like a destitute king. 1728 01:22:47,155 --> 01:22:49,600 On this earth, 1729 01:22:49,675 --> 01:22:53,756 there's no kingdom that is good enough 1730 01:22:53,835 --> 01:22:55,602 for Orson Welles. 1731 01:22:55,675 --> 01:22:57,443 - Merv Griffin: But you feel wonderful, don't you? 1732 01:22:57,515 --> 01:22:58,999 - Oh, sure! 1733 01:23:00,715 --> 01:23:04,119 - As it must to all men, death came to Orson Welles. 1734 01:23:04,195 --> 01:23:07,720 That, a paraphrase borrowed from his own film, "Citizen Kane. " 1735 01:23:07,795 --> 01:23:10,043 - newscaster: Orson Welles told me about a lunch he had recently 1736 01:23:10,115 --> 01:23:12,439 with director-producer Steven Spielberg, 1737 01:23:12,515 --> 01:23:14,915 who had just purchased the famous "Rosebud" sled 1738 01:23:14,995 --> 01:23:18,596 from "Citizen Kane" for $45,000. 1739 01:23:18,675 --> 01:23:21,315 - But I said, "We burnt the sled, Steven. " 1740 01:23:22,795 --> 01:23:26,363 That's why we enjoy life, is that we know it's got to end. 1741 01:23:26,435 --> 01:23:29,284 - Newscaster: Orson Welles was 70. 1742 01:23:35,795 --> 01:23:37,115 - Chris Welles Feder: After my father died, 1743 01:23:37,195 --> 01:23:40,360 I got a call from my half-sister Beatrice. 1744 01:23:40,435 --> 01:23:41,799 She and her mother Paola 1745 01:23:41,875 --> 01:23:44,756 were arranging a funeral in Los Angeles, 1746 01:23:44,835 --> 01:23:48,884 and I was really devastated by the place where it was held, 1747 01:23:48,955 --> 01:23:51,836 which was like a horrible motel room. 1748 01:23:51,915 --> 01:23:56,640 Nothing had been done, I felt, to truly honor my father. 1749 01:24:00,035 --> 01:24:01,955 - Oja Kodar: He didn't want to be cremated. 1750 01:24:02,035 --> 01:24:04,196 He said, "I took so much from this earth, 1751 01:24:04,275 --> 01:24:07,079 I should give it back, at least, something-" 1752 01:24:07,155 --> 01:24:09,720 And, um, they didn't do it. 1753 01:24:19,995 --> 01:24:25,843 - I would like to do something which would leave... 1754 01:24:25,915 --> 01:24:29,036 at least... 1755 01:24:29,115 --> 01:24:32,356 the art form concerned or the profession 1756 01:24:32,434 --> 01:24:35,315 better for my having done it... 1757 01:24:37,435 --> 01:24:43,000 ...to use this medium for something except entertaining. 1758 01:24:44,995 --> 01:24:46,959 I'd like to have been more useful in the world, 1759 01:24:47,035 --> 01:24:48,519 and I hope I can be. It's, uh... 1760 01:24:48,595 --> 01:24:51,596 You finally get to a point where, uh... 1761 01:24:51,675 --> 01:24:54,599 art for art's sake doesn't seem a good enough flag 1762 01:24:54,675 --> 01:24:57,119 to be marching under sometimes. 1763 01:24:57,195 --> 01:24:59,203 - Interviewer: What's a better flag? 1764 01:24:59,275 --> 01:25:02,396 - Well, you've got to believe in something bigger than yourself. 1765 01:25:02,474 --> 01:25:03,958 - Interviewer: Oh, we've run out of film. 1766 01:25:05,195 --> 01:25:06,483 - You had me- - I must tell you- 1767 01:25:06,555 --> 01:25:07,679 - I had me riveted! 1768 01:25:09,715 --> 01:25:12,160 I loved every- Don't cut a word out of that! 137318

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