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The new lion comes in, kills them,
and takes over their bread.
Same thing in the mob.
Your best friend is the one
that's going to whack you next time.
You never know who it is.
It's never-ending.
I started getting a lot of respect.
I'm with the biggest family there is, in control of Toronto.
I'd kill for him.
I would do it in a blind sight.
I wouldn't hesitate.
The mob is what controls the world.
Drug Lord is one thing.
Bikers are another thing...
But the mob controls banks, lawyers, policemen,
money laundering, drugs.
The worldwide, you're talking about $80 billion a year.
It's like an octopus.
You have your fingers everywhere, every country,
it's never ending.
Most people are completely swamped by the American
mythology of organized crime.
The reasons for the mob’s success are clear,
organization and discipline, vows of secrecy and loyalty,
insulation of its leaders from direct criminal involvement.
It's a very nasty world, very violent.
There's not only Sicilians, there are those from Calabria,
the southern part of Italy, the Calabrese called the ‘Ndrangheta
The ‘Ndrangheta basically morphed from something in Italy,
to the new world.
It’s a very different situation here in Canada.
Remo Commisso runs the Commisso clan in Toronto, Canada.
If you wanted to draw a picture of a mafia leader,
he would be it.
They’re organized crime, murder incorporated.
They kill people and get away with it.
The Commisso were new Canadians who were more aggressive.
There was a lot of money in getting people shot or scared
or blown up.
My name is Alberto Josepe Ferraro Moya.
I knew that I wasn't a normal kid.
I stabbed the first guy at 13 years old
'cause he was treating me bad.
That's when I realized I wasn't normal.
I realized that if you push me, I would hurt you, right?
I’m born in Ecuador, 1962.
I’m part Italian and part Spanish.
I was nine and a half years old when we got to Canada
and we moved to the St. Clair area,
which was an Italian area.
My father opened up a business.
When we got to Toronto,
we opened up a supermarket business
and we started selling Italian food.
I started seeing people walking in,
and the people were coming in with high-end cars
and they would gamble all day.
And the back of the coffee shop,
there was a gambling area where the Italians hang out.
I liked what they were doing. I liked the people walked in,
how they had money, you have class and you had to work.
They just gamble all day so I was intrigued by it.
I said, I don't want to live like a normal guy.
- you get these guys coming in,
these gangsters with Camaros and Porsches and Corvettes,
nice clothes, sit down, gamble all day,
have coffees and drinks and bet $500 or a $1,000 a hand
and playing Italian games and so that intrigued me.
So I decided that day when I was almost 13, I said,
this is what I want to do.
If you kill someone in the Italian mob,
you are never safe.
You can try to insulate yourself.
You can try to grow to power,
but vengeance has no timeline with the mafia.
The biggest cause of most traditional organized
crime deaths is revenge,
and revenge can come from anything.
When it comes to organized crime so much of what they do
is built on money, on muscle, on fear, on intimidation, on power,
but underneath all of that, it's built on vengeance.
And with the Italian mob, vengeance has no timeline.
They do not forget.
In the 1940s, the father of Remo and Cosimo Commisso
was murdered in Italy.
Fast forward 40 years, the Commissos are here in Canada.
They're serving time in jail for their crimes,
but there's an opportunity to strike back.
So I remember at 13 years old, when I left the house,
I was starting to do karate. I started doing martial arts.
I was doing wrestling.
So I needed to do this
because I knew that I need it in the future.
I have to be a badass to protect myself
and be somebody that's aggressive.
So when I used to go to the Gold's Gym,
I started meeting drug dealers, they had dope,
and I would talk to them and we'd hang out with them
and we'll have a coffee, and then I say, hey, buy from me.
I say, okay, I'll buy from you
and I'll sell it to the other guys.
I start making income, right?
Then I said, okay, now we're going something bigger.
Let's do some coke. We start selling coke.
And it started growing and to the point where I was making
so much money, I was like, wow, this is good, you know.
I had a providing guy that was bringing the coke,
like large amounts.
At that time, bringing 200-300 kilos.
So now I had a good price I could compete.
So I asked my friends,
I said, I need a big supply for steroids.
I need to make money. How am I going to do this?
Don't worry, I have a friend in United States.
So we start buying $20,000- $30,000 of steroids a month,
and I could sell that to 70,000, 80,000.
I could make double, triple the price.
So, I thought perfectly, let's do that.
In my 30'... the Ferraro crew started in the '80's.
That’s when I made the crew.
They became a group of 50 like hardcore soldiers.
I mean hardcore.
Like Phil... Phil McDonald he’s in jail, 20 years, 25 years,
but he used to bring me every single guy that was
10 years, 5 years, 15 years,
that was hardcore people that really did their time.
He’d bring 'em to me.
The baddest of the bad.
In my 30’s my main business was collections
because it was quick money.
At the end it was very easy
'cause our name was very powerful
so we had no problem.
My guys were really serious.
We weren’t like Mickey Mouse,
like when we collect, we collect.
We didn’t fail any collection.
So they only way--
some companies would say, you know what,
a fee, the guy owes me 2 million or 3 million
and they’ll say you know,
I’ll give you 50 percent or 40 percent if you collect it.
I just had to say come in and listen my friend,
there is a debt outstanding, we have to fix this problem.
How would you like to pay it?
But if you don't wanna tell me that,
you can tell me fuck yourself. Fuck you, get out of my office
and I'm gonna walk out of the office
and say thank you very much, shake my hand,
and we'll see you later.
That's how I had to say it.
I never said said I'm gonna beat the fuck outta you,
I'm gonna kill you, I don't have to do that.
And 99 percent of the time, they would say we like to pay.
And the one percent time that didn't happen after a few times,
the word got out on the street that you had to pay.
You know you are better off paying cause the sooner--
you're gonna get it anyways.
And then you're gonna pay double
because now you got me more costs and now you pissed us off
so you're gonna pay a bit more, right?
There was construction companies that were doing dealings.
Some companies would pay a fee
so there would be no disturbances to their project.
So disturbance means the project,
means that nobody’s gonna hold on
to the project and take longer than it is,
could cost them millions and millions of dollars.
People would pay me 50,000, 100,000 to make sure
that their building would be constructed
and no one would come and ask them for any costs.
And let's say the building is 13 floors
and you say oh can I get one or two floors more?
And you think it’s nothing but those two floors
are millions and millions of dollars
'cause it’s just the same structure
just a little more building.
So they would pay a fee for making sure
that no one would give them a problem
and you could get those permits
or you could get that building quicker and done
without having someone come in and muscle you.
We call it protection fee, right?
Some clubs pay for, or discotheques pay protection fee
for no one to bother them,
we have no people coming in and breaking your club,
coming in a smashing your club or shutting it down.
So there’s no fights inside your club
or no one’s gonna do any damage, right?
So it’s like an insurance policy.
I call it an insurance policy.
So if they pay that for insurance policy
everything be perfect.
In the mafia you can only rely on certain people
to do certain jobs.
You have to have the right mentality,
you have to have the strength, the actual physical strength
that we’re talking enforcers, to shake people down,
to get violent when needed,
or the ability to intimidate people.
Joe Ferraro is muscle.
He would go around trying to collect debts from people,
he would go around intimidating people.
Joe Ferraro’s been known to cut people’s limbs off.
In the 1980s, there was a war that broke out
between the Costa family and the Commisso family,
and it all started over a pissing match
and it ended in vengeance and death.
One of the members of the Costa family,
for some reason in the middle of the night,
went into the bedroom of one of the Commisso bosses in Italy,
whipped it out and took a piss all over his bed,
plastered the thing with his urine.
This incensed Commisso and all because of this pissing match,
he literally decided he was going to start a war
against the Costa family
and that they're all to be wiped out,
flushed down the toilet like a bunch of piss themselves.
Police in Calabria, Italy
arrested seven suspected members of the underworld today.
They're believed to be involved in a war
that's raging among organized crime families in the region.
Feuds that break out
between some of these factions are unbelievable.
The things that these people will do to each other,
you would never even think of.
The victim of the mob style hit was 38-year-old Giovanni Costa,
who bled to death from a massive throat wound
within moments after being shot at close range with a shotgun,
There's over 20 members of the Costa family murdered.
One of them even being here in Toronto,
taken out by a hit squad
that the Commisso family sent to Toronto.
Police intelligence sources say three of Giovanni's brothers
were killed during mafia gang wars
in Calabria in southern Italy.
They come here to wipe out as many Costas as they can,
and this feud that all started with a leak
ends up with blood being spelled on the streets of Toronto.
So the next thing was where I could make more action.
I knew that the power was in Woodbridge.
That's where you're going to grow.
Woodbridge area is mostly Italians.
It's a wealthy area where there's a lot of money.
There's private houses, there are mansions.
It's the economy of Italians.
It's basically where everything moves.
But all the people from St. Clair
that made millions at that time,
the mobs or the families that made money
go to Woodbridge because they had the bigger mansion,
they had the bigger fancier car.
Everybody had to have a Range Rover.
You had to have that 5,000 square foot home.
I moved there in the '90's.
The people had money, the people had cash.
I had two limos. I had the Mercedes,
I had the Lambo, had the Ferrari,
and people would knock on my house and say, is that car,
can I rent it?
And I'd say, well, it's not for rent, it's my private car.
But then they started asking me,
I said, okay, you know what I'm going to, as a joke, lemme try.
So I opened up a company,
it was called Ferraros Exotic Car Rentals
and Limousine Service.
And all of a sudden people were coming there every day
renting limos for weddings, graduations.
I said, I'll buy two more.
So I bought two more, two more, two more.
And I ended up 30 limos, 30 limos.
I had like $3 million, $4 million worth of cars.
I'm like, wow, this is great.
And as a joke, I was thinking,
this is a good business just to launder my money.
I thought this is perfect.
Your businesses, they pay you the weddings by checks
and stuff like that.
I started laundering money through there and this business
started making millions, started making me more profit.
Like, wow, this is great.
I had big companies coming in and then I had these CEOs
of companies taking my limos.
And my driver would say, boss,
you know what these guys were talking about
how they're going to up the price of the stock
and how much they're going to buy
and how much they're going to drop.
So I started realizing that these people
were just as crooked as us.
I remember being in Reggio Calabria once
talking to a police officer, and I said to him,
how many murders a month you get here?
He said, this month we had 65.
I’m like 65 murders?! How do you manage that?
In Toronto, they get 65 a year.
It takes them years to develop a case.
And he's like, what case? Take a picture, chalk the body.
He says, 'cause tomorrow the guy that did this killing,
he's going to be dead because they'll kill him tomorrow.
The mafia is everywhere.
You go to small towns, you go to big towns, it's the mafia.
They may be different colours,
they may be different generations.
They may be different ethnic sort of backgrounds
in terms of Calabrese, Sicilian, the Kimora,
for example in Naples, but it's the mafia.
Kidnapping is big business in Italy.
Within the last 10 years,
the families of over 400 wealthy Italians
have paid ransoms totaling over $100 million.
At that time, kidnapping of industrialists in Italy
was sort of the daily event, so they would kidnap these guys.
They would run 'em down to the Astro Mountain range
where they had caves and you couldn't find these guys,
so then they would ransom them.
The money was laundered in Toronto through a travel agency
down to the Bank of America in New York.
I ended up getting ahold of an FBI agent of New York,
purely by chance by the name of Rick Demberger.
In 1987, I was involved developing a case
based upon an undercover drug purchase.
An opportunity arose for a heroin purchase to be made
in August of 1988.
The heroin came from one of the underlings
who worked at the Cafe Giardino,
which is the Gambino Brothers Club.
That heroin was delivered.
It was tested out and determined to be beige heroine
somewhere in the 40 percent range.
We started talking about the heroin business,
and he's telling me he had just got a sample of,
I'm going to say I think it was around 40 percent.
I realize we're talking the same stuff.
We had the same percentage of stuff that we were-- in Toronto.
The presumption was that the Gambino brothers,
John and Joe Gambino and their crew
had a drug operation going on.
The investigation revealed that the Gambino brothers
were not the origin point of it in any way.
That the origin specifically involved
a new group on our radar, known as the ‘Ndrangheta
based in Calabria in Italy.
It was essentially a conspiracy to import heroin
and a conspiracy to export cocaine.
The heroin would come here, the money would go to New York.
Cocaine was being shipped to Italy.
I think one of the only things
that actually tripped the Italians
was some of it was being shipped as baby clothes,
and it was going to a woman in Italy
who was almost 100 years old.
The box was opened and the clothing
was clearly not baby clothes.
It was a towel, some loose cloth and blocks of cocaine.
We had a clear understanding that there were many days
before when this same activity happened.
The same individuals came down from Canada with money
or had money wired down to New York,
contacted Colombian cocaine groups,
bought cocaine and shipped it back to Italy.
We got an understanding that this group essentially
attributed to... Gioisa Jonica,
which is a small town in Calabria.
He was the head of a family or clan there that was active
in the importation of cocaine,
and the postal authorities in that small town
kept copies of the customs declaration
affixed to the front of the packages
that revealed the shipper, the recipient,
the weight and baby clothes.
We were able to develop a listing over time
that totaled 127 and a half pounds of cocaine
that had been shipped over the span of August 1988
through February 1989.
We prosecuted people in Toronto.
We prosecuted people in New York
and the Italians went to town in Italy
and prosecuted a whole bunch over there.
One of the leaders of the Italian
was a guy named Vittorio Ierino.
He came to Toronto with his wife and a young boy
because his young boy was, had some serious medical issues
where he could only be treated at Sick Kids Hospital.
But the first thing he did after he dropped his wife
at the hospital was he came straight to the Casa Commisso
and he met the Commissos.
When you see that,
you understand that the Commissos are a powerful faction
because otherwise, why would you do that?
Is he kissing the ring?
Absolutely. He's kissing the ring.
They were the leaders without a doubt.
Neil was a lieutenant for the Commissos.
Neil on his own was a very successful businessman.
He owned nurseries where they grow trees, flowers,
that kind of type of stuff.
He owned gymnasiums because of course they sold steroids
and distributed steroids.
He was a definite go-to guy for Cosimo Commisso.
So at that time in the '90's
I started hanging out with Neil, Cosimo.
I had good power in the streets.
My job was more street control, right?
I was more street guy, you know?
And at that time, the big deal was ecstasy.
Everybody started talking about this ecstasy deal
and the clubs downtown, they were doing raves.
They would make millions of dollars in a year in sales
for water bottles and the clubs and selling these pills.
One of my guys,
I'll never forget, he comes to my office.
He goes, boss, why don't we going into ecstasy business?
I have a connection in Amsterdam.
I can bring it in for cheap.
I said, okay. So I said, well, how much is it?
He goes, I could get him for around two bucks a pill.
I'm like saying, are you serious?
$2 a pill. I could sell it for $20 a pill.
I said, let's try one. Let's bring 30,000 pills.
As soon as it lands to my office,
I have a buyer for about $15, $17, a whole thing in one shot.
Wow. I made $150,000, $20,000 in one day.
I'm like, wow, this is a good business.
I was getting so much money. It was just crazy.
One day I made $1.2 million in one day.
I had the businesses going, had everything going.
So what's my next market?
My next market goes to become a real mobster.
I wanted to get into mob,
I wanted to be part of the main family.
And the main family was controlled by Neil and Cosimo
in Woodbridge area.
And when we started working together,
he started sending me to the captains in each crew
to buy from me.
A guy will come and say I need 30,000 ecstasies,
40,000 ecstasies or I need 100 pounds of weed,
200 pounds of weed.
So I was like, wow, this is perfect.
Now, I'm making more money, which is crazy.
Neil was getting really closer to me,
anything he'd ask I would do for him.
And then he asked me for a favor one time,
he has a problem downtown with some guys,
so I sent 30 guys down there to help the problem.
He was very appreciative for me sending in so many guys
last minute call just to make sure it was done.
So that's when we started getting closer.
And then he started coming over the office
and we'd have meetings.
And they were very nice to me and invite me to his house,
to have BBQ and have dinner and New Years,
my kids, my wife and we became close like...
we became friends.
And then go to the restaurant and have lunch all day you know.
Cosimo would come and Neil would come and we'd sit down
and we’d have lunch.
We’d have bottles of wine and talk,
like they brought me in as a family.
They brought me in close, you know.
And I said okay, well now I got respect.
The only person I respected was Cosimo and Neil.
They’re my bosses, that’s it.
Old fashioned, real men, really Italian background.
Their word means something, you know.
You don't have to sign a contract with Neil.
You don't have to just-- shake your hand, it's done.
I was more the gangster street guy, less rules.
But when I started getting involved with 'em,
I started to realize there's rules,
but then again, there's more benefits, right?
I just started going so big.
I had power, I had money, I had respect.
I had everything I needed.
'Cause now I’m with the biggest family there is,
in control of Toronto.
Cosimo was a businessman. I call him big boss.
Cosimo is the main structure of the family.
He's the one that controls the rules that power the respect,
and he's the one that runs the show.
It's got lines.
You go to military, you have the Colonel General.
We have the same thing only our way.
It's like a government basically
with everybody has a role in their family to rule, right?
The families are more of a corporation.
Banking, extortion, protection, money laundering, drugs.
Anything that you are making illegally or sometimes legally
have to pay a percentage for the protection of the person
that controls that zone or the family.
And the structure is-- that whoever's making money,
you got to pay up.
Ndrangheta is controlled by different cities, countries.
Worldwide you’re talking about 80 billion...
$73, $70, $80 billion a year.
It's so much money. You have your fingers.
It's like octopus.
It has everywhere, every country.
Some countries, you can't even imagine the control.
So the deal is to try to make as much money as possible
together without a conflict.
If you have just a conflict of interest,
they have to talk it out.
But sometimes it depends on the issues
and if it could be resolved.
When the major issues come in front,
they have to be met and discussed and figured
just like a corporation.
So it's very structured, very professional.
The table is structured with five or six people.
They're not new.
They're all people in the older ages--
and basically they control the structure of any major issues.
Jimmy De Maria, Cosimo, Neil,
there's his brother, and there's Chichi.
It's a group, which... it's a sit down.
It's not just like a one guy calls the shots and that's it.
No, the family's there
and you try to make sure everything's happy.
Basically, everybody tries to avoid wars and problems,
but the bigger you grow, the more power you're going to get,
the more it's going to happen.
I've been aware of Joey Limo since the '90's
He owned and operated a limousine business on steals.
He was always a guy that knew a lot of bad guys.
Sometimes bad things happened around him.
He was well-known in the intelligence world
and in that criminal underworld.
One of the things with Joey was
I think he had a lot of connections.
He knew a lot of people, and in that world,
knowing people means you also have a lot of dirt on people.
In Canada, we have very strict disclosure laws.
So every time you're arrested, you can sit in your jail cell
for five years and read your entire file
and know exactly how all of the police techniques,
where we put the probes in your car,
how we do that, how we do surveillance,
where we sit when we conduct surveillance,
We knew what the cops were doing, right?
We knew that they were surveillance.
So I knew my office was tapped.
I knew my office was watched in front.
Neil's office was watched.
They knew Cosimo, they were following Cosimo.
So everybody knew what was going on,
but just had to be careful.
So I bought some things to surveillance.
I had the little things that we put on the table,
which would block the zoning.
So even if you came and talk to me with the phone,
I would block your phone so you couldn't call out.
You couldn't-- but you couldn't receive nothing, right?
I remember when Cosimo always talked,
he always put his hand in front of his mouth.
So, I guess, he was very shy or protective,
but he was-- never like to talk openly.
He's very secretive.
Doesn't like to talk to a lot of people.
That's what he had--
People really close him to get the information out
what he needed to get out
without putting himself in risk for things that he shouldn't do.
Because a lot of people are like a lot of rats
will try to get him because he's a head of a family.
And he's smart enough
that he's lived till now and he is still out there, right?
I really got close to him, you know,
and we spent a lot of time together.
Whenever they asked me to do something,
I would do it in a flash.
I didn't have to be-- or ask why or how.
No, I would do it.
And I keep so close.
I could tell you, I'd kill for him.
I would do it in a blind sight.
I wouldn't hesitate.
So here's a question. How many people have you killed?
I... I... I'm not a... I haven't killed anybody.
I just presume my life you know I've...
I haven't killed anybody. I wouldn't be saying that.
People have gone to see the creator,
but that's about it.
If you were a uniform officer working,
you knew where his limo, luxury car rental place was.
Again, very out there and boisterous,
and that's why no doubt brought a lot of attention on himself,
not just from police, but also criminal groups.
He wasn't afraid to make enemies.
He wasn't afraid to push back. So he made a lot of enemies,
but he also made people a lot of money.
I got into an issue with another family.
They tried to disrespect me,
and I asked them nicely to pay me the money
that they-- was outstanding to me
for doing what I had to do.
And they knew they owed me the money,
but they thought they could disrespect me, right?
But I did my job.
You owe me money. Outstanding.
You have to pay me.
So they hired a hit guy from Italy
came to Canada with no suitcase, nothing, just a passport.
But the cops stopped him at the airport when he came to Toronto
and they deported him back to Belgium.
And then the cops from the Europe, Interpol,
grabbed him and put him to jail for life.
And the second hit was one, two, three, four, five...
There was five guys that were trying to whack me.
It was planned perfect.
They would hit me from each side, whack me.
They had guns already,
and apparently the next door neighbour was worried
because he sees these two cars there,
and when he went drop off the kid to the bus station.
He calls the cops.
So all of a sudden, these cops come and they save my life.
It's believed that someone was sent to Joe Ferraro's home.
It was called in as a potential home invasion,
but it's believed that it wasn't
a typical home invasion for money,
probably a gun for hire to take him out
as part of a vendetta or money owed,
or he's created that wrong enemy.
My next door neighbour,
I bought him a case of champagne, Dom Perignon
I'll never forget. I bought him a case.
I said, here's this case.
Thank you very much for saving my life.
It was so funny.
That was the best part of my life.
People would been trying to whack me for years.
So I mean, I'm alive because God thinks
it's not time to go visit him yet.
God thinks I'm still good person, you know.
In '99, I was making so much money and so many good things,
and one of our guys said to me,
there's a guy that's interested in buying some ecstasy.
He wants to export.
So I meet the guy, the guy says, I want 30,000 pills.
I said, okay, no problem.
He's an older man, who's an undercover cop.
It was my fault 'cause I didn't do diligence.
I let my guard down,
and when you let guard down once, you're screwed.
So I let my guard down and I got screwed.
I was charged with trafficking ecstasy,
conspiracy to traffic cocaine.
And then they come back and they say,
hey, do you want to not go to jail?
And I said, what do you mean not go to jail?
Well, you can help us out with some information
and we don't have to go-- to put you in jail.
I said, thanks for the offer, but I ain't ratting anybody out.
I'm not going to put somebody in my time and go to jail
and suffer because I'm trying to save my ass.
I ain't a rat. I'm going to jail.
And it was my crew that turned on me.
I'm in jail and my right-hand man comes
and tells me that he's taking over my business.
He's taking over my house.
He's taking over my limousine company.
He's taking over my wife,
And he's taking every business I have in the streets.
And then if I came back to Toronto,
after I came out of jail that I'll be killed in two minutes
and you have no control 'cause nobody was behind you.
I was kind of shocked. So fucking-- I went nuts.
I'm fucking, I'm trying to punch the window.
I'm trying to fucking jump the guy.
I wasn't going to kill him. I was going nuts.
what they just said to me, right?
That whole my life was gone.
So they put me in a private room
where there's nothing on the floor.
There's nothing... you can't do nothing.
It's like a room where people are nuts
and they let you cool off, right?
So they left me there for a day or two days, I think,
and then they said, okay, you okay?
I said, yeah, I'm a fine.
And then when my seven months are up,
they put me in front of the Board.
And the Board says to me,
Mr. Ferraro, we heard that your business has been taken away
by the bikers.
Don't you think your life's in danger?
They're going to get you and kill you
because they want to take over their property.
I said, they took my business and took everything.
That doesn't matter anymore. I've lost everything.
I just want to come out and I just want to do my life.
I'm going to just walk away.
I'm going to be a little boy, going to let these fuckers
take my money, my business, my house, my whole thing.
They said, okay. He said, you know what,
tomorrow you're allowed to leave.
I said, God, thank God.
So I get to Toronto, I bought some coffee.
I walked into the fucking office and they're all fucking there.
Everybody's there.
Said, hey guys, how are you?
I said, fuck it. I said, you know what?
I just want to say hi and tell you I'm out.
By the end of this week,
I'll have this place belong to me.
Here's your coffees.
I want you to make sure that you know that I'm here
and I'm coming back to my business.
Everybody in the fucking office, they shit their pants.
They're like, what the fuck?
The guy just walked in and told everybody,
I'm taking my place in the next few days and be ready.
They said, cap, we want to wait until you come out.
We told them we were with them, but we're not with them.
We're just waiting for you to come out.
Because if wasn't with them, they couldn't work.
They couldn't sell their drugs,
they couldn't get piece of the action and they couldn't move.
But we're ready for you.
As soon as you say the word, we'll have a meeting.
We'll grab it and we'll take the place over.
Perfect. So I knew my guys were behind me.
I was like, wow.
Out of the 40, 50 guys, I had maybe 35, 40 guys with me.
I'd say, call my guys.
Tell them to start coming up to this restaurant
'cause we're having a meeting.
So when we walk into the restaurant,
I see the Hell’s Angels, Terry, Lou and Ross,
my ex right-hand man.
So I told Mike, I said, Mike, tell everybody
from the restaurant to leave. I'll pay their bill.
Just wait at the door and make sure when the guys come in,
you let 'em in.
So one at a time, we're sitting down on their table,
they're talking, saying, you fucking come to Toronto.
Now you think you're going to take over the businesses,
we're not letting you take any.
I'm saying, oh, yeah, okay. I say, okay, I understand.
You got more peace of the ice. I'm saying, okay, okay.
So as everybody leaves the restaurant,
so the only table is us.
All of a sudden Mike opens the door and cousin,
one of my guys comes in, he's a big black dude.
He's real-- and he comes with gloves
and he comes over to the right hand side and says,
Hey, captain, hey boss. How about you?
What's a problem?
And he brought a gun for me and I said,
wait, we're going to have a meeting,
and I wanted him to be here.
He goes, why'd you do that? I said, I call my guys.
I want to hear what you're offering, right?
So they're saying, one of my main guys, Tuffy,
which is the head of my crew, comes in.
He's a big 280 pound guy, really crazy, really fucked up,
really nuts.
People are scared of him.
He comes and sits on my left side.
All of a sudden, Mike closes the door, locks the door.
I said, now you're going to tell me what the fuck
you want to say.
So the guys, they're like, uh-oh.
And I said, I'm going to tell you something.
See, these fucking guys you thought they were with you.
Can't you see they're with me.
They played you, motherfucker. They're proving it right now.
Ross is a 250 pound right-hand man.
He was a big bus. Puffy's so big.
He grabs the chair and lifts him and throws him
on the fucking floor.
I said, get up you fucking piece of shit
Sit down right now.
He get up and sit down. He's like this.
Don't fucking move, don't say a fucking word.
I'll get him to fucking kill you right now.
And the guy starts crying.
This piece of shit is supposed to be a boss of a family.
This fucking bitch's crying.
I said, is this what you want as a boss?
And you think you're going to take over my fucking business
and you're going to take over my property and my houses?
I'm going to let you walk?
All of a sudden, cousin makes it obvious.
Cousin goes like this, and he passes me the gun
in front of their eyes and I go,
Terry, what the fuck did you say to me that
I can't come fucking to Toronto and I can't fucking do nothing?
I said, is that what you said to me?
He's like, whoa, whoa. Wait a minute.
I said, what happened, bro?--- Mind your fucking mouth, guys.
going to swamp.
Talk to me like now, tell me you're not going to tell me
what to fucking do.
I remember Terry's face. He's like this, holy fuck.
He started backing up and fucking Louis...
I said, Lou, what are you going to say?
He puts his head down, the other biker, Hells Angel,
what the fuck are you going to say now?
I said, tomorrow, 9:00 in the morning,
I'm coming to the office. I want the keys.
I want my locations back, or else you're not leaving tonight.
And if you do lie to me tonight, we're going to get you.
We're going to get you good. We're going to fucking kill you.
I’m not wasting my fucking time.
But I was so angry that I want to show, motherfucker,
you're not taking nothing away from me.
I'm going to show you, I'll die before I let you go,
and I'll kill you, motherfuckers.
I have nothing to lose. I lost everything.
You took my wife, you took my car, my business, my respect,
and he told me I can't come to Toronto.
Fuck. We come to the office 9:00 in the morning
before the door opens, we're at the door.
Here's your keys-- I said, perfect.
I want my house back and all my guys are working for me now.
And then everybody in the street knew what I did.
So that was it. I got my business back.
I had my power. My guys were back with me.
So my job was to make money.
Now what I do, get back, get the interest,
see better connections, get the flow back, right?
Jail time and the things I did to get my power back
gave me much more respect everywhere.
It just opened up the doors.
It just gave me-- to show me
this guy's, not just a fucking mouth.
He actually did the time, he did the crime, he came out,
fought against his crews, fought against the people.
So it gave me more respect out there.
And then Neil, he backed me up 100 percent.
They were always saying, what you need?
And said, my guys need this, my guys need that.
So I started selling to them.
So my cashflow started going back to normal.
I was... in 2001.
They put a new order at that time that if you had
a criminal record, you'd be deported.
So I never see that coming, but I thought I could be too smart.
I'll never get caught.
If I get caught, you know have good lawyers, I'll get out.
I thought I was untouchable, right?
But in reality, the government has resources
and sooner or later they're going to get you.
It doesn't matter how good you are, right?
And that's what happened. I got caught.
The worst mistake was not getting my citizenship,
my Canadian citizenship.
So in July, 2011, I got deported to Ecuador.
I was gone forever from Canada.
That was a day where my whole life changed.
I was into a new world.
A world where I was born before, but I was never here.
So it was a big change.
And the lifestyle change was--
You spend millions and partying and enjoying,
and now everything is gone.
Your family's gone, everything's changed.
Joey Limo.
Well, I know he got booted out of Canada
to his native country in South America.
We've known from Joey,
he is very familiar with the cocaine trade,
and clearly being in a source country doesn't fare well
on the rest of the world.
Giving Joe the opportunity to apply his trade,
I would put my money on Joey that he is active
in the drug world.
The only thing I would change is not getting caught
and going to jail.
Everything else I would never change
because my life was a dream.
I'm still in touch with my family from Canada.
I still have a context.
And my old boss, I have respect for him,
and we say hello to the time and hopefully in the next future,
the near future, I should say,
we're going to see if we spend time together,
and he come and visit.
I don't want to give up my power, my money.
I want die with power and money.
It was the spring of 2014 when we first approached Commisso.
This agent, was the first time we had somebody
since the famous Cecil Kirby as a police agent
targeting the Commisso’s
and the ‘Ndrangheta since the '80's
May 27th, 2015, 1338 for scenario 2-2-8.
I'm almost certain people are watching us right now.
Wondering what we're up to.
Anytime you're running an agent, the amount of stress
that's on an agent,
the concern about that agent being found out.
The agent testified that Cos wanted to murder him.
There was a vote whether he would live, or die.
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