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You want to be a billionaire?

No.

B-I-L-L-I-O-N billion.

Not a million.

I heard you spell it.

I still don't want it.

Look, I won't consider selling without...

your blessing but I've got until 12:45 to get it.

So for now, it's time to check out the legendary Trender food court.

Look, if the food court is that legendary, I'm sure you can order delivery.

But then I would have to call.

What's wrong with calling? You're calling me now.

You're someone I've known since college.

Yeah. So you should know that I don't want to be a billionaire.

I want to be a multi-billionaire.

$1,000,000,000 is what they pay you to give up your dreams.

Sounds like a pretty fair price to me.

It's the easy way out.

We'll regret it in the future.

We may be in a briar patch...

now, but with some hard work, a couple turns of the clock...

We could turn this startup into something that's worth billions.

But it won't just fall in our laps.

It's going to be a challenge.

Something it seems like you're not even up for.

All you want is easy.

You don't want to do anything.

I want to sell our little startup called Glitch for $1,000,000,000.

Hello.

Hello?

Who is this?

I'm calling about the arrest...

warrant for Ev Kaufman.

Noah?

How'd you know it was me?

I haven't done anything illegal.

Il-le-gal. Seven letters. Nope, doesn't fit.

Do you happen to know any six-letter words for the end of a sentence?

If I knew any six letter words, I'd be teaching business, not practicing.

So, what are you up to?

Right now trying to listen to the new Barstool single.

Haven't got a chance all morning.

Oh, you'll like it. You will definitely like it.

Maybe as much as I'm going to like this acquisition.

Yeah, about that.

You sold already?

Wow, that was fast.

Congrats! No?

No? Not it?

Actually, Sean wants me to buzz a few investors...

to see if we can get a better deal.

A better deal than $1,000,000,000?

Not with me calling.

Well, it's a good thing that I'm content with a billion isn't it?

Wait, you're calling investors?

Technically, I'm face timing them.

Well investors don't buy startups outright, they give seed money.

I learned that much in Professor Sandberg's business class.

Ev, I thought you said we were selling.

If Trender finds out we're cheating on them...

They might up their price.

What?

If Trender finds out that we're involving...

other investors, they might up their price.

I heard you the first time.

I just wanted to hear you say those glorious syllables again.

Hey, Ev.

I know you didn't really mean what you said.

You were...

stressed and driving...

and talking on the phone, which I know you hate.

If you're busy, we don't have to visit your dad tomorrow.

I was just trying to think of stuff to...

I want to help.

If there's something I can do, someone I can call, a meeting I can set up...

That's why I was calling.

Just call me back.

Hi, Ev! I just wanted to let you know that I've been waiting...

on a response for the past hour, so I just figured you were busy,

but just wanted to let...

you know I've been waiting to help, but something else came up.

I just didn't want you to get the last message, and, you know... just...

don't worry about it.

Ev. There's something important I need to tell you.

I'm at...

I guess I can't say; you're not listening anyway.

I'll figure it out.

Just I hope your part's going well.

Actually, I don't care.

Don't feel bad about not calling back; don't. Please.

Selling Glitch may not get your blood racing but $1,000,000,000 might.

A $1,000,000,000.

...Is that all you say? Look. Let me break it down.

I don't want to hear it.

One fourth goes to you.

That's 250 million. Same to me.

Another 250 million.

And then 25 million goes to Noah so we don't have to reenact...

The Social Network.

I figured you actually did want to hear it.

I guess that's good.

But what happened to you, Ev?

What do you mean what happened to me?

I'm Ev.

Just last week you were at the whiteboard explaining your three part plan...

to attract seed funding and take the social networking app...

we've spent two years working on to the masses.

Ev, we were going to take on Trender, not sell to them.

...Don't deny it... Deny it? I'm proud of it.

I found a prospective buyer in less than a week.

And how'd you do that?

I tried looking. And I didn't find just any buyer.

I found a buyer called Trender that has been the biggest,

most influential and innovative company in the past ten years.

What are the odds of that?

I don't know, man.

I'm no good at math. I'm just a programmer.

I just wish we'd talked about it.

We're talking about it now,

and we can talk about it all the way till 12:15 when I get to water

the seed that I planted in the CEO of Trender's head.

So South by southwest...

...what happened? Did Jack see Glitch?

Did he test the prototype?

Did Jack get cozy with other startups?

So what'd he see?

...What's he know? Nothing.

He didn't see the prototype.

He didn't see the plan.

He didn't see the stats, but he did see me.

And he must have liked that.

Jack wasn't like other business people.

He was personable.

There was this connection.

I told him about my life and my dad and his struggle with cancer.

You should meet him.

Maybe it's better if I don't see his toothy grin.

Darth Jack put a spell on you, Ev.

What is your problem?

You're acting like he poisoned the coffee.

I don't know what to say.

I've never had to sell candy bars, much less a company worth $1,000,000,000.

Is there anyone we can ask?

Ev Kaufman?

THE Ev Kaufman that when asked to explain how we found the answer to a cash flow

diagram, answered "math".

This time I've got a better answer for a business drowning in debt.

It better not be bankruptcy.

Much better.

...A buyout... Ah! Good answer.

And a buyout is very much a straightforward process.

It's typically something both parties are able to agree...

to after several rounds of negotiation if the deadline's not too tight.

And what constitutes a tight...

...Professor, we aren't...in such matters of negotiation?

Well normally a little over four weeks is the standard...

Professor, a buyout may be the best answer, but it's not in the cards.

We were dealt a different hand, one that involves venture capitalists.

...Ah! Venture capitalists! What are they?

What do they do and how do I get their money?

So, venture capitalists: they're people attracted

to the concept of people with moronic ideas begging them for money.

That's a joke, Ev.

Anyone can call themselves a venture capitalists...

but there's only about a thousand of them with deep pockets...

...Professor...divided in between independent...

VCs and VC firms that are a group of successful folks dumping...

...their money in the same baskets. The wisest thing...

Professor, I got, I got to take this call.

Sometimes you can find one online for free.

...Professor! Right Silly me.

VC stands for venture capitalists, V - C, get it?

...That's where the biggest gains... Hello.

I'm driving right now so I can talk, but it's not like the best time.

...I can call back... No, no, it's a good time.

I'm sorry.

I'm horrible at these things, these calls.

It's fine. Ev, right?

Yep. I'm Ev that, that, that's me.

Who I am, and your are?

How are you doing?

I'm sorry.

I'm Jessica.

Sheryl's Secretary.

Hi, Sheryl. I mean, Jessica.

So the call or the face time thing,

was she wanting to do that now?

I mean, I know it's you calling; she's not calling...

So Ev, Sheryl is busy with several meetings today,

but she should have some time tonight to talk to you

about what you were wanting to talk about.

That's great.

I mean, not exactly, but.

No, that's good. That's good.

Hi, is this Ev? Ev Kaufman.

It is.

...It is... The CEO of Glitch?

I've never really considered myself a CEO, but yeah, I guess so.

Fresh, you are just like me.

Back when I was starting Trender with Jason we'd get people call...

and want to speak to the CEO, and neither of us knew what to do.

You are just like us: college guys connecting the world.

Man, I miss the smallness of it all.

It's so cool to be talking to the CEO of Trender.

...You sound just like me... Really?

Yeah.

So can I ask you a question?

...Why not? So back in 2013.

The Big 13. I love where this is going.

That's when you guys got your first offices, right?

It was. It was.

...So did you and Jason share? We did. We did.

We shoved two desks together, his standing, and we'd work...

for hours, him coding mobile and me pounding away on desktop.

So what do you and Sean do?

Have you guys graduated to having-an-office-level of startup?

Yeah, well, no, we actually usually do everything over face time so, no?

That's great. That's great.

You are so much cooler than the person over at Clapper.

When I called to acquire Clapper, that lady that was in charge...

was like a librarian: will the books match this?

Will it be too hard too have that tiny detail in the terms of agreement amended?

Can I have this typed out, not handwritten?

But you, Ev.

You are a man after my own brain.

You are cool.

...I hope so... You are!

This is going to be the funnest negotiation ever.

No haggling over stupid stock vesting options or data centers in the Kazakhstan.

We are just going to connect, man. A match waiting to happen.

This is so surreal, Mr. Jack.

Can I call you that?

Heck yeah, you can!

Well Mr. Jack there's so much we can talk about.

Well, I'd like to talk about Glitch.

You know, it's a shame you don't want to sell right now, because...

I know you've got your eyes on some of the other options out there.

...And so... Sean, no.

You're the CEO. It's the CEO's job to listen.

Okay, I'm doing it.

I know you're looking at the possibility of a buyout but remember the plan.

Remember our long term goal.

The launch.

We've already submitted the beta version to the app store.

Remember the slogan "Get Gooder"?

Yeah, I liked the other slogan better.

But that really doesn't really matter now...

because we're going to... You're great at running a company, Ev.

You're the perfect blend of hardworking software programmer...

and hardworking manager.

I'd rather have a job that doesn't require me to be hard working.

Do you not see your change?

You got tempted by this juicy fruit called a buyout...

and now that's all you think there is.

...You shouldn't have gone looking... It's the job of a CEO.

And not only did...

you just recently submit a good approval rating of my job performance...

you bought the tickets to South by Southwest.

See, we work together.

You didn't even have to tell me to do that.

Most tech startups don't fail because of bad ideas.

They fail because of infighting.

We're the perfect team, Ev.

So that's why you're calling me, right?

To tell me you're recommitting...

to making Glitch succeed, to inspire me with how much we could be worth?

No. We aren't compatible.

We can't work well together.

We have been since the beginning!

Since you told all the sophomores to meet in room 21 C...

to talk over a new business idea.

And you were the only one that showed up.

...It was fate... It was bad luck.

We could have had a finished product a half a year ago,

but you wanted perfection.

You ran Glitch into the ground with too much debt.

You knew we couldn't compete in the marketplace with a subpar product.

When we step into the App Store, we aren't competing with Baby Trender.

We're going to war with the sixth largest company in the world...

and now we've got a contender.

It's time to fire the starting pistol.

Sean. I've got to tell you something.

You told Jack too much?

You told him the password to the prototype? What...

Nothing. I just explained the concept of Glitch's adaptive timeline.

...And he liked it? No, he loved it.

He offered to buy us out right then and there.

That's a stamp of approval that we can make it.

If Trender wants us in their family of apps that bad, then Glitch...

must be one heck of an idea.

You did say no, right?

I was the one who suggested it.

...Ev! Sean,

We are selling Glitch to Trender for $1,000,000,000.

I'm not at Trender headquarters to talk.

I'm here to sign the contract.

No. But Ev!

Sean, everything has lined up.

We have labored away in pursuit of a great product.

And now we've got one.

But we're in debt and we can't take on any more for marketing or launch.

And then we come across the CEO of Trender who actually wants to buy us? That's fate.

No, that's bad luck.

Now you think a buyout is our only option.

It is.

That's not an option, Professor.

We're on a deadline.

It has to be today.

Then better get a second helping of etiquette.

The normal stuff, dress code, handshakes, small talk...

those are all the same, but what's going to be different...

since this is your first time is be sure that whatever you're speaking about...

Hi, Ev, this is Kevin with Lendstreamer.

...We're happy to assist you... I don't need your service.

And if I did, I wouldn't choose you.

But Lendstreamer has won the RK customer award...

That should be all you need to know...

to survive your first journey through venture capitalist park.

Good stuff. Very helpful.

Need the lowdown on anything else?

No, I think I'm good.

...I've got to get... I've got a class coming up so anything to...

delay it.

I'd be happy to talk about I-9s, equities, IPOs.

...Anything. I'd even... Thanks Professor, I've got a call.

Well feel free to call back about anything.

We're just starting that chapter on basic investing...

Hey. Hey, hi Crystal.

It's good to hear from you.

It's not a great time right now. I'm trying to call...

...When is? What?

When is a good time to call?

I'm not sure.

I don't know how long this is going to take.

What's going to take?

...Calling the investors, the... You're calling investors?

Ev, why didn't you tell me?

I could find a list, get numbers together, send you a script.

It was a last minute thing. Sean's idea.

So can you talk about it now?

...About what you're doing? One could call at any second.

I want to help.

You've been holding me off all morning...

I can't go to Oregon to see my dad right now!

I know. Can you... just, can you?

...There's one calling now... Well can I do something?

I'm just...

It's an investor, Crystal. I have to take this.

...I know. I'm not trying to... I have to get off.

I understand. Just...

Can you please...

Hi. Hello.

Is this Mr. Krieger?

It is. Am I speaking with Sean Dorsey?

No sir. This is Kaufman... Ev Kaufman.

You know.

I don't know.

Right. Sorry.

I'm the head of Glitch.

That's what I am, who I am.

And you are?

Well. No, you're Mr. Krieger.

Is this a bad time, Mr. Kaufman?

No, no, it's a good time, actually.

So you got a partner, you got help with the startup?

Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

So we made this thing called Glitch.

It's a startup, you know, like a small company...

I know what a startup is.

...Right. You're the investor... I know what I am.

So what is Glitch?

Well, Glitch, it's...

It's this thing we made; it's an app. It's an app.

Uh, you can use it on the website as well.

But no one really uses computers anymore.

Well, they use a computer, but not the website.

They use mobile phone apps.

So what's it do, Ev?

Glitch, it has an adaptive timeline.

So anything you post, or even if you look at it...

for a long period of time, our algorithm takes it into...

Is it a video editor?

Is it a scheduling app?

Is it a TikTok?

What is Glitch, Ev?

Glitch is a social media platform.

Kind of like Facebook or Trender or Twitter.

Well not like TikTok.

I'm sorry.

I was talking to myself.

Well you're supposed to be talking me, Ev.

Right, it would be great if you could see the prototype, so...

you know, you could get it, get the idea.

Is there a reason I can't?

You know, a lot of these founders are awkward on the phone and over Zoom...

and I get it.

So the prototype is of Glitch, a social media app?

Right! Yeah. Yeah.

Now we're talking; so I can get you that in the email.

In the one that Sean sent.

Sean who?

The guy you thought I was.

Never mind. It doesn't matter.

There should be a link in the email thing.

Okay.

I've got the email pulled up. I see it now.

Looks like Glitch version 1.1.

Yeah. Just click that.

Got it?

...It's loading... Right.

So the first thing you should come to will be the loading page.

It's completely different from all the previous era designs.

It takes up the whole page and it loads faster.

...No more little spinny... Hold up now Eve.

It's showing a picture of a cute little village; says site is under maintenance.

The "downtown".

...What? Nothing.

Nothing it's the blasted...

...Sorry... Did you say the "downtown".

...No yes... Is that the app?

No, no, no, no, sir.

That's just a cute little picture that pops up when Glitch is down.

Little nickname for it. I see.

...Yeah. Yeah, right. You get it... Oh, that's funny.

Ev, well, the downtown is up, so I assume the site isn't ready.

It crashed with no one on it.

No, no, it didn't crash.

I promise. I just got to get a friend to pull it up.

I know enough about start ups to know it's not ready yet.

Unless your target demographic are customers...

that are too shy to make returns Glitch is in need of some work.

No, it's in need of seed money.

Now, look, I appreciate your call, but you got some work to do.

Spoiler: You're not ready.

But, sir, let me call Sean. He'll pull it up.

...Just wait five... I'm not waiting, Ev. The site's not ready.

...Start ups are a tough journey... Please don't hang up.

I promise, Sean will get it going in record time.

So there is a problem with the site?

No, no, it's fine.

I just... I've got to log in. Just please.

...Please, hold... I hope you find success...

Mr. Krieger it's going to be ready in five, literally FIVE minutes.

Please hold.

Ev, I got to go, good luck.

So, the buyout.

...The buyout... Yeah, the buyout.

Does that count as finishing each other's sentences?

...I know, right? Podcast! What?

...Podcast? Which one?

...Ours man, we really got to do one... I'm Ev Kaufman.

...And this is Jack... This is a... Podcast.

It is Friday, November 15th, and it will be all day long.

...Have you heard the acoustics in here? Where are you?

...Like a bathroom... Yeah.

The buyout, so the buyout.

Ah back to boring business.

Back to boring business.

Sorry, I'm just repeating everything you're saying.

This is just great.

Wait what did you say?

I took my glasses off so I can't hear as well.

I know what you mean.

So this buyout thing that we're talking about has to be secret.

The regulators might not like it.

Well, why does it have to be secret?

So you can get $1,000,000,000.

But no, seriously, the Department of Justice prides itself...

on crushing monopolies.

They might not feel the vibe. They think Trender's this thing called a monopoly.

I mean, yeah, we could be... we bought out like

Lightbulb and Clapper, and You're Smart, and now these regulators are, like, tired.

...I don't get it... I don't get it either.

It's like this. We can't buy a company that's already prosperous, but we can buy

a tiny little startup with zero users and register it as a learn-quasition.

...Or R&D... That is awesome.

...I know, right? So the site... Our site?

Yeah, your site. Two words. It's great.

...Really? Yeah. Man. Really. Really.

But you haven't even seen it yet. You've only heard about it.

Hearing was believing.

I bought Clapper, the little startup where you clap for things

instead of liking them, for the sum of $2 billion.

That's about an eighth of a Lyft.

Clapper came with 40 million...

registered users, 212 employees and none of that stuff called debt...

and a little thing I like to call a fully functioning product.

Hey, we've got one of those too.

That's why even though you have more debt than users, I'm...

willing to pay $1 billion for Glitch.

So whatcha gonna do with a billion?

Well it's not really a billion.

More like 250 million.

Oh yeah. Just 250 million.

Not much you can do with that, if you know what I mean.

I do.

So, Jack, you just threw out a price.

Does that mean you're officially offering to buy us out?

I don't know, am I?

It's kind of like you're...

hinting at getting married, but you're not really getting down on one knee.

I know I'm a coward, but not anymore, Ev.

So, what do you say to Trender buying your super cool startup called Glitch?

Do you think we can make it work?

And this is where I'm supposed to act surprised?

I don't know. Are you?

...I mean, I knew you were going to ask... You did?

You did.

...So? This is so cool.

It was fun.

The CEO of the seventh biggest company in the world...

is offering to buy my little startup.

This is cool, Jack.

But I'm sorry...

it's a no.

I don't think you heard me.

I clearly said there were three options.

Yeah, a buyout, a buyout, and oh!

A buyout.

A buyout's not the only option.

We could take on more debt.

No. We can't.

Glitch is maxed out at Golden Gate Capital.

Just listen. Ev, just listen.

It's the CEO's job to listen.

Glitch is an LLC.

Ev Kaufman is not, you could personally take out a loan to get Glitch launched.

Me? I'm not piling all that debt on myself.

I'm not a betting man.

You are.

I don't have a credit rating.

I exclusively use Bitcoin for my payments and purchases.

...I don't care or understand... Time out.

How could you not want to know more?

This is the future of money we're talking about...

Time in. Back to your stupid idea about finding funding for Glitch.

If you really want it, you could cosign with my dad.

He has cancer.

The banks wouldn't know.

You wouldn't actually let me go through with that.

You're right.

I've already found the easiest opportunity I'm selling.

No, no, no, no. Ev, just hold.

Actually can you please hold?

...For who? Crystal.

What's up?

You have a minute?

I can make time.

Have you swung by Oregon to see your dad recently?

Not in the past week, but mom's been there with him.

I think she left last night to take a break.

Want to surprise him?

...When were you thinking? This evening?

If we left now, we could still make it in time.

I don't know if a surprise is good for someone on their deathbed.

You know what I mean.

Actually, I'm in the middle of selling Glitch.

We got a buyer.

That's awesome.

You're not wrong, but awesome things sometimes take a while.

It may take till tonight just to put my name on all 503 documents.

So tomorrow? Around lunch or so?

...That's when mom will be back... Yeah.

...That works... Is that okay with you?

It will work.

Oh, I had a funny story...

...I was going to tell you... Do you mind maybe telling me...

I was at the mall...

The one with the indoor skydiving place.

And it was pretty crowded, not quite like a Friday night crowded...

Crystal, do you mind maybe telling me this later?

Yeah. I can.

Sorry. I'm just busy.

I've got a lot of paperwork, and... CRYSTAL: That's fine.

...It's completely fine... I'm sorry, Crystal.

I love...

I found Sandberg's number.

I don't know if Sandberg would actually be that useful.

Then call someone who would.

I don't know.

Call the head of Clapper, that company that Trender bought last year.

Ask how it went, what happened, what to expect.

I hate calling people.

Ev, it's like back when...

Actually, if you don't mind, I'll call you back.

Wait, what are you doing?

Calling someone who is excited about selling.

Ev, what's going on, man?

I know it's been a while, but you should know that I'm still busy before noon.

Not busy enough to know that Trender just offered to buy Glitch.

Wait what?

What?

Seriously? Freaking cow man.

Well, so how much, how much do I get?

Just 125 million.

Nothing major.

Yes! Dude. Yes.

My man!

Ev, you beautiful human I could kiss you.

You know, I knew.

I knew that spending one summer...

with a bunch of tech nerds was just gonna change my life.

No offense, Ev.

No offense.

What are you doing to celebrate?

Nothing yet.

Still hammering out all the details. And there are a lot of them.

Okay. Right. Yeah, well, you do that.

If you need some more hammers or something, let me know.

I'm actually at Trender's headquarters.

That's like five hours away.

Just five?

Right, right.

I gotcha Ev. Okay. Okay. Well...

I am going to go and listen

to the new Barstool single to celebrate.

Why can't you have the same enthusiasm as Noah?

The man nearly had a heart attack he was so excited.

And I nearly had a heart attack, I was so disappointed. But...

I got the Clapper person's contact info.

Her name is Sheryl...

but her contact info isn't available anywhere...

so you'll have to call her secretary to set up a call.

I know, that's two calls that you aren't going to like.

That's two calls I'm not going to make.

Oh, no, you're going to do it, Ev.

Even if Mommy has to sit with you.

Is little Evan throwing a temper tantrum?

No, I'm pausing our argument.

Ten bucks says it's because you weren't going to win.

Ten bucks is wrong.

There's another call coming in.

Who?

Unknown number. Maybe it's Sheryl from Clapper.

Hello.

This is Kevin with Lendstreamer.

We make lending easy when it comes to debt consolidation.

Debt consolidation, you say?

Lendstreamer does offer debt consolidation services, yes.

Would you be interested in us helping...

...You need any debt consolidation? No.

I don't either.

Better luck next time.

I'm not calling the CEO of Clapper.

I'm not calling anyone.

What about Beedo?

What about the guy who used to run Beedo?

If my memory serves me correct...

and it usually does, Beedo has been out of business for three years.

Why would I call them, Sean?

The guy was offered a buyout by Trender, but he didn't take it.

And Beedo went the way of MySpace.

Are you wanting Glitch to fail?

This guy went against all reason. Maybe he had a reason.

You'll have to ask him...

When he calls in 15 minutes.

No, no, no.

Hi, Dad.

How's it going in Eugene, Oregon?

Your side of the world.

Ev. I'm good.

They're making me rest.

Won't let me get out of bed.

But I'm good.

I'm fine.

That's great.

I don't want to keep you long, Ev, but just...

No, keep me as long as you want.

No, I just wanted to check and see if you're coming tomorrow.

Your mother will be back.

Everyone will be there.

Are you coming?

Yeah.

I plan on coming up to Oregon tomorrow with Crystal.

Sounds good.

That's all I needed to know.

You have a good one, Ev.

I'm driving, Dad.

I can talk if you want.

Oh, no I don't want to keep you.

You'll be here tomorrow.

You're acting like you know there'll be a tomorrow.

I won't let myself pass until there's someone by my side.

I'll wait for you, Ev.

...Goodbye now... Dad!

I just want to say my goodbye.

Okay.

Well, you can say it now and then I'll hang up.

No, I...

I want to say my final goodbye, just in case.

I love you, Dad.

...I've always loved you... Save it, Ev. Save it for tomorrow.

No, I want to say it now.

Just in case something happens.

Ev, I'm going to make it.

I'm going to make it till tomorrow.

Ev, I'm glad we could talk. Now I gotta go.

Dad. Wait.

Please, please, dad.

Ah, Ev. Going well?

Well, there's a reason I'm calling, but here's something you can help with.

...What's the best way to pitch? Ah 12 slides.

Now, the 12 slide rule has an interesting backstory.

So back in 2004.

That's right after 2003...

Hello.

Who is this?

Yeah, yeah, that's, that's...

That's the new Barstool single. So what do you think?

It's good, right? Right. I...

I'm thinking it's keeping me from this stupid crossword. Anyway...

I still haven't got a chance to listen to it yet.

Pretty busy with investors?

Yeah, I get that. What's the progress? How's it looking? What's going on?

Looking like a buyout.

That's good, right?

I mean, that's, that's what we want.

A buyout means that we don't have to do any work?

Yeah, pretty much.

Okay. Okay.

Well, you know, keep me posted.

Seems like you're doing a pretty good job of that yourself.

...Right, right, and Ev? Yeah.

You know, if one of these investors uses some big like whopping...

six letter word or whatever you know, let me know.

It's just I'm still stuck on this stupid crossword, but, you know, it's good for

the brain they say.

You know, Noah, there's...

a lot of six letter words, maybe sprinkle on some context?

Right. Yes. Ok.

It's a, it's a six letter word for the end of a sentence.

"Comma" didn't work.

Oh, I, I'm an idiot.

I know what it is. Don't even, don't even worry about it, Ev.

So she says, "why have"

I never seen you at a rave? "And he goes," Why have...

"I never seen you at a bank?" SEAN: I've got an idea.

Let me hear it.

We just need three months of funding to launch and market Glitch. Right?

Right. But it doesn't matter what size loan.

We can't get any loan from a bank.

Then we don't use a bank.

What's your proposed substitute?

Bitcoin is sold on cryptocurrency exchanges.

You can borrow up to 250 without verification.

Thousand?

I know it's not much, but it would be enough to get us...

launched and attract seed funding.

But this is only for backup.

Top priority is getting Glitch back up and running for our next investor.

Ev, now tell me this.

Have you ever seen the youtube explainer video of Trender's legal department?

The one with 120 million views?

Yeah, that one.

I haven't seen it, but I've seen a few Getty Images and the ones in the book.

Then you would know there's not a lot of legal battles we don't win.

We have lawyers for everything: for copyright laws...

and trademarks, for business mergers and federal court...

for local court and entertainment, for defamation.

But the one I'd like you to be particularly aware of...

is our Department of Lawyers for Defamation and Slander.

I would imagine you need it with all that negative press.

You're right, Ev.

You're right.

Trender also has employees in practically every industry on the planet.

We have employees in business, of course, and we have employees in finance.

We have employees working in programming and logistics and plumbing and security;

we even have employees in investments, fintech, medical, VR.

We also have employees working on a car project.

Ev, we have employees working on a car project.

But just as I focused your awareness on our defamation division...

of our legal department,

I'd now like you to...

focus on the fact that we have employees in the medical and security field.

These folks are the best.

Our medical people could...

get away with murder, and our security people could cover one up.

Now, Ev, wanna guess who...

the easiest people to put to death are?

The ones closest to it.

You knew it was going to take elegance of speech to get me to sell.

Not sure what you thought that boring word vomit was going to do.

I have someone I'd like you to meet, Ev.

Like call them?

I already have one of those scheduled.

You may have already met them.

Someone left a phone beside his bed.

They left something else inside his body.

Jack?

Who's Jack?

No one.

Ev?

Yeah Dad.

I didn't recognize the number.

I'm glad it's you.

I'm sorry.

For what?

Dad, don't you know what they've done?

I'm sorry I let them.

I'm sorry I didn't stop it.

Ev?

Do you feel bad?

Are you all right? Are you okay?

It's night, Ev.

Don't, don't go to sleep, dad.

Don't. Don't go to sleep.

Talk to me, Dad.

Stay awake.

We'll talk tomorrow.

Ev, they want me to sleep.

No, Dad. Don't. Don't go.

Don't go to sleep.

You got to call someone. Call a nurse.

Ev, are you ok?

No, I'm fine.

You never wanted to die alone.

I'm not dying now, Ev.

Am I?

No, no, no, Dad.

Ev, am I dying?

Yes, yes, Dad.

I'm sorry you're alone.

None of us could be there.

I'm not. I'm not.

This phone doesn't count.

I'm sorry. I should.

Tell your mother I wasn't alone.

Tell her I wasn't alone.

But I'm sorry.

I'm not there. I'm sorry. I could have come.

I might have made it back in time.

Ev? EV: Yeah Dad.

Tell her...

You tell her I wasn't alone.

I will.

I will. But you're going to make it, aren't you?

You said you would make it till tomorrow.

I would...

I wish...

Ev, talk to me.

Talk to me.

Ev, speak to me.

The company's safe. DAD: Say something.

What am I even saying?

Dad, we know who did it.

We are going to go after them.

But if...

I'm coming, Dad, I'm coming tomorrow.

I'll make it. Everyone will be there.

Everyone. Mom, Dad.

Me, Crystal.

Crystal?

Yeah, Dad. She'll be there.

I'll be there.

I'll show you everything.

The company, our plan, what we're going to do next.

You were an amazing...

I'm gonna start by not selling, Dad.

Then.

Then we'll convict the head of Trender.

We'll get him...

and then I'm going to work with Sean.

I'm going to work with him.

Is he still...?

Yeah. Yeah.

He does.

You've raised me to fight.

That's what I'll do for the company, for Crystal.

I'll work hard to win her back.

I'll do the tough things, the hard things, all of them.

I will.

I will dad.

Looks like I'm cutting out, Ev.

While I'm regaining connection, you can have a nice chat...

with the Beedo guy.

Sean! SEAN: Actually, his name is Tyler.

I can't make the call. I'm the CEO.

I've got the meeting.

Yeah, well, the CEO's

job is to listen to other's viewpoints.

Good to see you, Tyler.

Did my business associate get a chance to brief you?

The only thing I was told was to talk some sense into this guy.

So what's the situation?

So I'm the CEO of Glitch, a little startup.

The environment's pretty similar to Beedo's start.

How many users?

We haven't launched yet, but we've already got a buyout offer...

so I just wanted to touch base

with you and see how the attempted buyout went with Trender.

Oh. So it's Trender.

"Keep your friends close and your enemies acquired" Trender.

I need a minute.

Ev?

Hey, dad.

It's good to see you.

Well, hear you at least.

I could see you if you were on facetime.

Don't worry about it, Ev.

I'm fine just talking with you.

I didn't mean to stress you out.

I already am, Dad.

I already am. There is a lot on my mind.

I thought I had something figured out, but now...

I don't know.

I'm sorry, Dad. I'm not trying to be such a downer.

You're good, Ev.

You'll figure it out.

The simple thing.

Remember the simple thing.

Sean's not a big fan of the simple thing.

What is it?

I don't want to stress you out further, Dad...

but it's like we got a ship ready to go to the moon...

and someone just offered to pilot it for us to take on all the expenses,

planning, heartbreak and danger, and pay us $1,000,000,000.

The simple thing would be to let them.

Simple doesn't always mean easy.

Sean would know how to tell the difference.

He was always challenging himself while other kids played.

He'd read twice the required books instead of using CliffsNotes, he'd...

slap screen limits on his phone, while others were racking up seven, eight

hours a day.

You wish I were him?

I'm glad you're you, Ev.

You balance him out.

But you can still learn from him.

He's saying we pilot the ship ourselves.

He did read...

twice as many books as you and they weren't middle grade fiction.

Hey, Ev, I'm glad I could meet...

on such short notice; you can call me Kaitlyn.

I'm glad too...

that we're able to meet on such short notice.

Not because I can call you...

Never mind. How are you?

I can't complain.

Good. Good.

I'm doing good, too.

Well, I mean, proper grammar.

So were you able to look over the attachment?

I glanced over it.

But to fully understand it, I'm going to have to hear from you.

Right. Right.

Well, the reason I say that is because there was...

this one person I invested in only to find out that...

SANDBURG:... like

when you watch a movie on a plane and people still walk out...

but they did get tickets to come back later. So it all worked out.

Professor! SANDBURG: But enough of that.

What you're going to want to do is start off with the name, start with the name.

...The reason... KAITLYN: So probably better to...

...hear it directly from you.

I understand. I understand. Especially because of the short notice.

It's called Glitch because it has that tech feel and it's easy to say...

and spin off into words like graze and goner and gabble.

Uh, Ev. Let me just stop you right there.

I don't have to hear that whole thought process that that went into it...

...because things like this typically change names at least three...

Because starting with YOUR name breaks the ice, it shows initiative.

You are the product.

And how are you gonna know something like that?

Right. Right. Right. Thanks for stopping me on that one.

So Glitch is an app.

It's for... KAITLYN: Social networking, and there's already tons of those.

So what sets Glitch apart from, say, Trender or Twitter?

Well, every big app started with a hook: Twitter it's 140 characters.

Instagram, make your photos look better, Snapchat, your content disappears.

Uh, seems like all the good ideas are taken.

Seems like. But Glitch makes your words better.

Everybody wants to sound funny or smart or clever.

Glitch does it for them.

So if you want to say something funny about a movie or a headline...

just type in a few keywords, your take, and let Glitch do the rest for you.

Need the perfect clever comment?

Let Glitch format it.

Need to sound smart or sophisticated? Let Glitch find you some stats.

Your words are convincing, but what about the product?

It's complete and ready for review. We're just tweaking...

a few last minute things so it'll be up and running for visitors.

Here let me call my... Wait wait, wait, wait, wait.

If it's not completely ready, why are you seeking seed funding?

Deadline thing.

I'm sorry, we're on a deadline to get funding.

If we don't get it by midnight, then someone else has claim to our product.

Let me call our programmer. Please hold.

It's coming.

What does that mean?

I'm still searching for the problem.

You haven't found the leak in the ship yet?

I've found 700 things that look like leaks.

But aren't? SEAN: But aren't.

We are literally putting the finishing touches on it right now.

Actually, we're... It's more like letting the paint dry.

It'll be done by tonight.

Do you think maybe you could call back then and see it?

Maybe around 4:00?

Yeah, I can do that.

It's unique.

You're just the software guy, Sean.

I've done the business since the beginning...

And you've gotten us nowhere.

I've gotten us to an historic buyout.

If you don't want control, let me take Glitch to Trender and Facebook levels.

And lose my billion dollars?

You're too idealistic.

I'm the one with the brain that knows if we launch Glitch now,

it will be a hit.

Couldn't have said it better if you beat me with a stick.

But Trender has one third of planet Earth on its platform.

They'll bury us in a hole deeper than Beedo.

...Snapchat... What about the little ghost?

They're still kicking after everyone cloned them.

No one tried to clone them until they were a threat.

We won't even get a chance to be a threat.

Trender will have their beady eyes on us and our 42 person user base...

from the moment you can search for Glitch in the App Store.

That was a strange call.

Because she didn't say no?

Never had that happen.

If you don't mind, I'm going to snap you out of your reverie.

I think I found the problem.

How much you want to bet this is it?

The problem with Glitch or the...

overcomplicated-cryptocurrency-Bitcoin-exchange-thing?

The first one.

How much you betting?

I'm going to bet 20 bucks...

this is the squirrel in the circuit breaker.

I'm not a betting man.

Hypothetically, at least, using Monopoly money.

OK sure. $20 this isn't it.

All right, let's see.

Alright it's saying there's a coding problem with the base code.

That's, that's your domain.

But you can fix it?

I did the patchwork and algorithm

for Glitch, but the base, the foundation, that's all you.

It's a maze, a different planet.

Is pretty, though.

I worked hard getting it that way.

I think I can find where the squirrel is.

Start by going about halfway down the main column.

Ev, I really need you to just...

I'm busy, Crystal!

I'm sorry.

I think I found the problem.

Who is it?

It's the last venture capitalist able to meet on such short notice.

All right, how much you betting he's a taker?

Nothing. I'm not...

You've gotten every other fake bet right.

Sean. No.

Small amounts, I'll go with ten bucks he doesn't like it.

Okay, ten bucks he does.

This section does not start with an "A".

What do I need to do?

Hello, Mr. Peter, thanks for contacting me on such short notice.

I'm Ev Kaufman, the head of Glitch.

Trender knows where you are,

where you were headed, where you stopped on the side of the road.

You're too late for your father.

You were always going to be.

Consider we know where you are when I ask you this: Are you ready to sell, Ev?

I'm not selling.

I'm prosecuting you for murder.

You can't, EV.

You know that.

There's no proof.

We've covered our tracks. We've buried the evidence.

You're going up against the impossible.

Ev, I'd like to lay out the process.

Hopefully we can come to an agreement.

Let's put the past behind us.

I wish it hadn't come to that.

Right.

The documents I left in that office are still the agreement.

No changes from what we talked about, except the monetary compensation.

I'm upping the deal to 1.5 billion.

No one should have to go through what you did, and I'm going to make it up to you.

That would work out to different numbers for each of you.

That works out to 425 million to Sean.

Same to you Ev and then your friend... Sorry Jack.

It's another number calling.

An unknown number. It might be important.

Sorry. I got to answer.

Then don't mute me.

I want to be sure it's not another investor.

A what? I would never call one of those.

Hello, this is Kevin with Lendstreamer.

Is it important?

Super.

Jack wouldn't steal from anybody and I would know.

I'm the one that shook his hand.

Ev, just promise me you won't show him the prototype.

You've raised some good points.

It's about time for a meeting.

Where you'll be bringing up these concerns?

Don't worry, Sean.

I'll talk it over and make sure we get the best deal.

You aren't good at talking things over.

Jack's the one who's going to get the best deal.

...Ev! EV: I'm talking about an app...

...that has the management,

the design and the hook to take on the two biggest companies.

I'm talking about a 500 times return.

500! That's huge.

Take whatever you're willing to put in.

Multiply it by 500.

So what are you willing to put in?

Ev?

Ev. Do you see any straws?

I'm sorry?

Do you see any straws?

Exactly.

You don't see any straws...

...because you have used the last one.

Ev, I'd love to see the prototype you've built.

You really hyped me up and I for one am excited.

Maybe we could just let...

that excitement keep building until after the deal.

Well, I like to examine the grapes before I buy them.

The grapes aren't working right now.

Didn't you spend all afternoon fixing Glitch?

Now, Jack... now Jack.

Well, what's the holdup, Ev?

I mean, it's an incredible design, and the worst that could happen...

is that it might need a little bit of improvement

to integrate with our family of apps, but that's Trender's specialty.

Look, Ev, you can't be shy if we're going to be working together.

Sean, you can't judge his character just because you don't like his company.

Ev, it's just I've been doing some digging.

Digging?

You mean hacking?

No, Ev. I did not say hacking.

I said digging.

...You hacked Trender? Look, Ev.

And you're the one saying Trender's immoral?

Why did you just venmo me ten bucks?

Take a guess. SEAN: The investor...?

First try, good job.

I'm sorry, Ev.

We've still got Kaitlyn, though. Still got Kaitlyn.

Only if Glitch is alive and kicking.

How's that coming?

I found another circle thing that looks more like art than code.

Page 428?

I'm running a deep search on it now.

How long?

Long enough for us to get your crypto wallet setup.

Right. Okay, bitcoin boy.

What do you need from me?

I'm using kucoin it's an international exchange based in Hong Kong.

Meaning no legal junk.

Work together?

Yes, Ev, I forgot to mention that.

I want you to come along with Glitch.

I want you to be a part of the acquisition.

I want you to join Trender.

Wait, wait, wait, let's command z this thing.

You may have forgotten: I'm not selling.

Ev when you sell we want you to join.

It's good to stay busy with work.

I like conducting my own job searches.

No, Ev.

There's too much mischief for a mind like yours to get into with a real job.

We can't have you talking to lawyers and authorities and posting crazy...

conspiracy theories.

A brilliant mind like yours needs to be kept busy...

or it goes insane.

You got someone calling you.

Yes. It's the blasted telemarketer.

I'm telling you, call the head of Clapper,

talk to their management, ask how the buyout went.

Just ask what happened.

You tell me.

...What? You hacked into Trender.

You tell me what you learned.

Tell me, Sean.

What do you need from me?

Uh, I need an email.

Sorry.

Noah!

Ev!

How many unknown numbers are you going to call from?

Well, I mean, it's just one actually.

A little trick I learned back in the day.

Maybe I'll show you some time, though maybe not today.

You know.

You don't look happy.

Investors, Noah, investors.

Well, crazy idea.

Don't worry about the investors.

I mean, you don't have to get a bidding war started dude.

We could sell the company for...

Oh, I don't know, like $1,000,000,000 I'd be pretty content with that.

I really want to forget them.

I really do.

Well, then do it.

I might Noah. I might.

I've got a lot of discussion and calls going on right now.

If you want to join...

You're welcome to. Yeah.

Ugh, nah. That's all you.

Man, that is all you.

...We done? I've got to get back to... Actually.

Actually what?

Crossword puzzle.

The word that I was thinking didn't really work out. So if you had a suggestion.

I don't have time for that Noah.

So where were we?

Yeah. Glitch email? Yeah.

...Just use that one... EKaufman@glitch.com?

I already did.

Okay. Uh.

The deep search with Glitch is done.

Want me to go ahead...?

No. No. Finish the KuCoin stuff.

I don't want to use it, but if Glitch isn't running it, this is our only backup.

Ev, you're going to have to sell, you can either do it...

now or you can wait for our employees to come by and assist you.

Now Jack, I've got a call coming in.

I figured that.

It's actually from one of your employees.

The head of Clapper.

I set this up just to see how buyouts with you go, what to expect and such.

Of course. Of course.

Take it.

I'll call you back, Jack...

but I'm going to talk over the process, get a walk through.

You know, if I hear that you actually keep your word, that...

you actually are a great boss, I might just consider it.

I really might, Jack.

You don't have to call Clapper.

Just the head of it.

I'm not calling anyone, Sean.

You're being unreasonable, Ev, you're being unreasonable.

What was that?

Mr. Kaufman. EV: That's me.

Jack wanted me to remind you...

that the meeting is in fifteen minutes.

It will be in the green... SEAN: Who is it?

...conference room.

Me and several others will help you find it.

Awesome, thank you.

And if you need anything just let us know, Mr. Kaufman.

Absolutely. SEAN: Who is it?

Just tell Jack thanks for letting me use an office.

Of course. Are you still good for the meeting?

Everything good?

Yeah, I'll be there.

Better be getting that billion dollar check ready.

Sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. SEAN: I don't need an apology.

I just need to know if this little section needs to be reworked or deleted.

What's it do?

Who is it?

It's Kaitlyn. Go all in on Glitch.

Act like KuCoin doesn't exist. SEAN: Okay. Okay.

So this little thing is a route marker.

It stops or pauses a video if you need to tap near the top.

Necessary?

What's the opposite of no?

Yes, it looks pretty necessary.

Does it need to be deleted or reworked?

Deleted or reworked, Ev?

Sorry.

Hey, Ev, how are you?

I'm doing all right, Ms.

Sheryl. I'm doing all right.

It's been a long day for me, but thanks for calling this late in the day.

I appreciate it. It's not a problem.

Jessica may have told you it's been an all hands on deck day here at Trender.

I'm sorry, but who's Jessica?

Oh, that's my secretary you called three times.

If you want, I can give you her personal number.

...No, no... Are you sure?

You kind of sound like you want it. No, no, no.

I'm going to send it.

It's not necessary.

...I don't need... Sent.

It's been a long day.

You're still at the offices at Trender?

Correct.

Well, that leads right into what I was going to call about.

Just how it was like being under Trender management after a buyout.

So my first question would be and please take your time answering:

What's it like working under Trender, under Jack?

I have something I need to tell you.

Then tell me, Sean.

Not over the phone.

Take your phone out and look.

You little... I'm not doing that.

You're going to have the Clapper person call me.

...I swear I won't... I found the loophole.

You'll have someone else do it. I know you too well, Sean.

Look, I'm being honest.

You're the one who just hacked into Trender.

Hello, Ms. Kaitlyn.

Thank you for being so flexible.

I hope that we can get funding by midnight.

I hope you can too, Ev, and I hope it can be me.

That makes two of us.

So what you described in our earlier call was cool.

I always assumed social networking apps were maxed out.

But those were just the first movers.

There's some room now for some early shapers and Glitch could be one.

Thank you, Miss Kaitlyn.

This early shaker is ready to go.

But before you see it,

what's your expectations?

So, management hours?

That was your question right?

Yeah.

...Yeah, it was... Trender sets those.

No, I mean, we set those.

We make our own hours.

Imagine an entirely separate company.

That's easy.

So working there at Trender HQ doesn't affect the autonomy?

Nope, not at all.

This may be an obvious question, but...

do you ever regret selling to Trender?

It's been a very good thing.

Although there have been trade offs...

we now have the environment to focus solely on the product.

And, you know, Trender has the teams...

in place for moderation and all the legal junk.

So we get to devote all of our time to the fun stuff.

That's the good stuff.

So what's the trade off?

Uh... No, that's that's not what I meant.

Nothing.

Nothing is traded off.

I don't want to sell without you Sean, but I will if you make me.

Just take a step back.

There's 10 minutes till that meeting.

Not an ideal time frame to "take a step back".

If you board the wrong train, running to the last cart isn't going to help.

Then stop the train, burn the...

station, block the tracks, at least till delay it until we can talk.

We are talking.

In person.

There's something important but I can't say it over the phone.

Then sing it.

Is this some type of psychological trick to get me to enjoy the design better?

I do it to everyone.

So what's the first thing that pops in your head when you hear the word

"Glitch". Full detail and everything.

The first thing that comes to mind...

That's one you don't delete, Sean.

I already did, Ev.

I already did. EV: Don't panic. Don't panic.

It was a negative.

Just go to the line above it.

It was the same function.

Just copy and paste.

And then what? EV: Just copy and paste!

KAITLYN:... and text.

That's what I'm expecting.

Yeah. Yeah.

Uh did you cut out?

I'm driving sometimes my video drops signal,

but trust me, I've heard everything.

That's of course the initial expectation.

Every app follows a pattern generally.

Literally, any social media app...

you open will look similar, the same basic building blocks.

So get out your phone and open up any social media app.

You'll see they all have three things in common.

Go ahead.

Got it Sean?

Got it. EV: Okay. Just retype the last two lines.

It has the same format as the code behind the home page.

On it.

And the menu at the bottom is that one?

Sure thing.

A good example of how we integrated Trender's philosophies with ours...

is when they... um...

when they asked us to move our headquarters

together, they were so accommodating.

It's an incredible place to work.

It truly is.

From the offices to the employees, the atmosphere.

And Jack, has he ever seemed off?

Can you please be reasonable?

Can you please be reasonable?

This is the last time I'm going to say this.

Don't sell.

Good. I knew you'd get tired of saying that.

Is that important?

No. Blasted telemarketer.

So which ones have you mentioned?

The picture top left. Right.

And the menu bar at the bottom. EV: Right. Right.

So the last thing are the three bars at the top of the screen.

Every social media app has some rendition of it.

So remember these three things when you're viewing Glitch.

Now, let me call Sean and see if he's got it ready.

Sandburg. What'd you say?

Have you even been listening?

You may have cut out and then an investor called.

How'd it go?

...Get a chance to implement... It's still going, Professor.

Got it, Sean?

Yeah, but it didn't do anything.

Glitch is still down.

That wasn't it?

That wasn't it.

Do we have time for another search?

No. Yes. No.

How long would it take?

Jack is the greatest CEO in the valley.

He's open. He's honest.

It's a joy to work with him.

Does Yahoo ring a bell?

They had their chance at a buyout and they croaked.

Maybe there is a problem with Trender.

Maybe they aren't the upstanding citizens of the valley.

But we're going to sell and run.

He's getting that link ready right now.

Nervous jitters, I guess.

I understand. I remember the stress of starting a startup.

You do? I guess things have changed a lot since then.

So what's the startup market like now?

What do you mean? My part of the playing field?

Or the whole stadium?

Both, I guess.

Well... Right now things are really at an interesting point.

How we doing, Sean? SEAN: You sure she's on hold?

What do you mean:

What's that noise?

...It's Crystal... Crystal?!

You got to answer it.

I can't right now, Sean. I can't.

What's happening?

I found something, but I'm not sure what.

Let's get it shipped, Sean.

Let's get it moving.

I can't.

Okay. Okay.

Just out of curiosity, did you plant the idea of a buyout

in Jack's head, or was he the one doing all the pursuing?

I sought Trender out I saw it as a place to grow, to have somebody else

take care of the boring stuff so I could focus on the product.

Sean, with or without you, we're selling to Trender.

Sean?

Sean?

Sean?

Ok, ok.

Uh, search for "command, shift block extension, forward slash".

Ok. Searching for "command shift" ...No, Sean, just isolate the block...

you just talked about.

Gotcha. Gotcha.

...then their was in 2012. Well, the bigger firms have definitely...

...had their fill.

Yeah. Yeah, I had two others able to call earlier.

I figured that was the case.

So, Ev, what's Glitch built for?

Do I need to grab my other laptop?

Or is my phone going to suffice?

Mobile. Mobile all the way.

It does work on a desktop.

We're not pulling a "Quibi".

So back to the startup market.

What do you mostly look to invest in?

A lot of tech, of course, specifically...

What have we got, Sean?

Nothing. We've got nothing, Ev.

So searching for "command, shift block extension forward slash" found nothing?

"Command shift block...

...EXTENSION, forward slash"?

You definitely mentioned a lot of positives, but were there any negatives?

Well, we didn't stay small for long. With Trender's gasoline in the engine...

we quickly rocketed past 500 million users way faster than our charts predicted.

And getting bigger comes with his own set of problems.

So, none?

...not a single negative?

No, none.

None whatsoever.

Sean?

Sean, are you there?

You want me to check my phone.

I'm not falling for it.

I'm not falling for it.

You're going to have the Clapper person call.

I know you too well, Sean.

And is it just you or...

are there other VCs with your firm?

Of course.

You don't have to worry about pitching...

I've got something.

I don't... I'm not sure.

It doesn't matter. We don't have time to test it. Just do it.

Take a risk. SEAN: Okay. Yeah.

Trust the product. We got this.

Make that fix, package her up, send the link.

We'll see what happens... We'll see what happens.

I'm assuming that means you don't want to bet on it?

So this might sound weird, but just between you and me...

...between two technology people running technology companies...

...were there any incentives to joining?

I don't know what you're talking about.

Is that call important?

No, no.

You should have an email coming.

It will have a link in it that will take you right to it.

And when it arrives, I'm going to go quiet so you can view it as a customer...

downloading it from the App Store for the first time.

Sounds good, Ev.

I am refreshing my inbox now.

Right.

You sure?

Sean, where did you go?

I'm not falling for it.

I'm not picking up that phone.

Big file might take a while.

Thought it was just a link.

Idiot me yeah, sorry, my brain's been everywhere today.

I'll just let the work speak for itself.

Okay. Here, it is.

Incentives.

What do you mean?

Never mind.

Just don't worry about it.

Sean, the silent treatment ain't going to work.

Whether your face is on that screen or not, I'm going to the meeting,

and I'm selling.

And I'm clicking on the link now.

And I'm going quiet. See it like a customer.

No explanation or commentary from me.

So I won't be working with Jack.

Maybe I should, the way you're talking about him, I just...

I'm selling but I wasn't sure if the buyout process

was indicative of to what lengths he was...

I'm not sure if that's...

you know what?

Never mind.

I don't even know what I'm trying to say.

I think I do.

I know it's not what you were wanting, Sean.

I know it hurts.

Probably could have broken it to you better.

And I've clicked the link.

You do?

So...

No, I'm sorry. No.

You can wipe your tears...

with that billion dollar bill.

Sean, in 5 minutes, I'm...

going down the hall to that meeting.

I'm sorry, this hasn't been the most normal Q&A...

between two business executives, but you can forget all that.

Just in closing,

if you had the chance, if everything played out the same way,

you would sell again?

You would sell Clapper to Trender?

I'm sorry it's not what you wanted.

You've been a good friend, Sean.

Maybe we can make something else after this.

Well?

She opened it.

Ten bucks says... Don't jinx it.

If I had the chance to sell again, I would.

Absolutely.

Completely.

She hasn't said anything bad.

100%.

No reservations.

So right now...

you're telling me the best decision I can make...

...is to sell to Trender?

That is the complete and absolute untruth.

Can I break the silence?

Yeah.

Everything I just said was a lie.

Well, what do you think about Glitch?

Listen, Ev, do not sell to Trender.

I've been under a virtual hostage since they forced a buyout.

Jack has only one mission.

And it's not to help people.

It's cute:

the village, the picture of the town.

Do not sell.

Do not be coerced into it.

Call the police, but do not sell...!

It's not right, Sean.

That's not right.

Ev, you named the app perfectly: Glitch means a problem or mistake

and I'm not going to make one by investing in an app that doesn't even work.

Don't sell! Ev, whatever you do...

Don't!

Hello, Ev.

That was just one little mistake.

I said we were having those last minute technical things popping up.

Ev, I've waited long enough, don't call me back...

until you have 10 million users.

We'll talk then.

If you were calling

the head of Clapper to get some advice, I'd be happy to provide some.

Sheryl was just terminated.

I see.

Seeing your face made me remember something, Ev.

I forgot to mention in our little chat that Trender...

just recently made an acquisition.

Who did you kill to get it?

I'm not talking about Clapper, Ev.

I'm talking about even more recent than that.

Trender made a little acquisition the day after we met at South by Southwest.

I thought the Department of Justice didn't share your passion for acquisitions.

They don't.

If the company's in the tech sector.

This one was in the finance sector.

Ask me what it was, Ev.

Was my word not enough?

I said I would sell.

If you hadn't broken the rules, I would have.

I couldn't risk losing you, Ev.

You wouldn't have if you hadn't bugged the room,

if you hadn't hacked into Glitch, if you hadn't murdered...

my father.

That's not all I did, Ev.

I bought a little company called Golden Gate Capital.

All the people in debt to them are now in debt to me.

I own you, Ev.

I can call that loan at any moment.

I own Glitch

Ev, I do care for my clients.

You're still getting 1.5 billion.

Yea or nay?

...Nay? You already know.

That's why we had a backup.

We can still use cryptocurrency lending system on KuCoin.

Yeah, I just thought we would get someone.

If they had just seen the product.

Well, they didn't, but this should work.

Let me pull it up.

We got time?

I told Jack I had a family emergency come up and had to rush to see my dad.

...He said he'd call back tonight... Okay.

Okay. Pulling it up.

Assets.

Main accounts.

See if this works.

Well?

Take that.

So...

Not a single investor took the bait?

You must have talked to Sean.

It's looking like it could be a buyout.

For real?

What do you mean, "could be"?

Sean's working on the backup.

More investors?

Not exactly.

Uh, what does that mean?

I'll explain it when it goes through.

So we're not getting $1,000,000,000?

No, Noah, I don't know.

Just give me a second.

What's up?

It's...

It's saying wallet under maintenance.

What does that mean?

It's it's.

It's just showing a lock symbol with the words "wallet under maintenance".

What's a wallet? What does it mean?

It's...

It's not letting me purchase or borrow anything.

No. Bitcoin, no Ethereum, no litecoin. No harmony.

English? We're locked out.

Why? What for?

The whole system is under maintenance.

They must have had a hack or they just decided to mop the floors.

Ev: How long does it take them to mop?

No one knows.

On the forums it's saying they could be down...

for like a week or just a few hours. It's..

It's impossible to tell. It's different every time.

So the future of money is dependent on when they decide to mop the floors?

Ev, it's the site. KuCoin.

They're unregulated which means we're able to borrow,

but that also means there's nothing we can do when we can't borrow.

So it's over? That's what you're telling me?

This was the backup.

...Yeah, I mean... EV: So what do we do?

There's nothing we can do.

We're locked out.

We're locked out.

So, so...

what's it... It's a buyout, Noah.

Are you happy?

Happy? Am I happy?

It’s a billion dollars. Of course I'm happy.

Are you kidding me? You're...

you're not kidding, right?

Do I look like I'm kidding?

Well, I actually like a little bit, but, you're not, right?

...You're serious? EV: It's over.

Noah, we're getting $1,000,000,000.

Period.

Period?

...Yes... NOAH: Yeah!

YEAH! Fits.

Crossword.

Period.

It's all coming together, Ev.

Everything is.

It's not working, Sean.

He's got the trump card.

It's worse than we thought.

I don't want to fight anymore.

I just want it to end.

Sean, Jack has me in his hand.

He bought Golden Gate.

He bought Golden Gate Capital, Sean.

We're in debt to him.

Any moment he wants us in jail, he can legally do it.

Maybe it's time to give up.

Just... Just let Jack have it.

We fought, Sean.

We did. You did.

We gave it our best shot.

More than our best shot.

But it's too much.

We've got to know when to give up.

We should just let Jack take it.

Most people never even get this far.

There's no shame in quitting now.

We learned a lot.

We've grown.

We should take the billion, he'll give us that.

He can be reasoned with that much.

Sean.

It's just too hard.

Most people don't know how close they were to success when they gave up.

They stop at the 999th light bulb.

But you and me...

Ev, we were born to fight.

We were made

for a challenge.

That's what we thrive on.

You know the consequences if we give up now...

and you know the challenges that face us if we continue.

Neither of us can claim ignorance.

Now you've got to choose between what's right...

and what's easy.

You can take the easy way out.

You can call it quits. There's nothing I can do to stop you.

But you're not going to do that, are you?

You're changed.

You know why you can't give up now.

You have a company to run, a team to build, a standard to uphold.

You're going to fight, Ev.

You're not going to go down the easy path.

You're going to do the hard thing.

What?

Ev.

What do you mean, Sean?

I'm really excited for the meeting, aren't you Ev?

Oh, yeah!

Yeah.

Hi, this is Crystal.

Please leave a message.

Hey. Hey, Crystal.

I don't deserve a response, but

you deserve an apology.

I'm sorry for not answering earlier...

for being a jerk.

All those calls went to waste.

All of them.

Then we had a change of plan that I didn't tell you.

I thought you'd be bored hearing it.

I thought you didn't care.

No, no, that wouldn't happen.

I'm sorry.

I'm sorry, Crystal.

We're working to keep control of Glitch.

We're aren't going to sell.

I want your help, Crystal.

I'm sorry I turned it down earlier.

I want you to be part of everything I do.

I'm sorry.

This is stupid.

You aren't even going to listen to this.

You're going to do great in your meeting, Ev.

I trust you to get the best deal.

Thanks, Sean.

Thanks for understanding.

What's the best way to get to the "meeting"?

Sean, Sean?

Yeah.

What do I do now? How do I get to the parking garage?

Taking a right out the door...

and then taking a left leads towards an elevator and a staircase.

What then?

...false leads and networking.

You got someone else calling you?

That's the telemarketer.

Telemarketers.

I ignore those.

Actually I think I'm going to answer this.

You good?

Yeah.

I'm going to stall him so long his supper's going to get cold.

Maybe just delay him till the funds transfer is complete.

I've got 20 bucks on the line...

and the supper thing's not a very measurable thing to go off of.

I'll say 75.

75? 75 What?

That's how much I'm putting down.

To say you're going to succeed or you're going to fail?

75 bucks says we win.

But Ev...

You're not a betting man.

It's not betting if you know the outcome.

Anything I can do?

I mean, you didn't really give a job description.

Uh, right now I wish I had your energy, your excitement.

We hit a little roadblock but we're going to power through.

You're not at a period, Ev.

Just a little comma, a little pause.

Hold up.

...Hey! TELEMARKETER: Hi, Ev.

This is Kevin with Lendstreamer.

We make lending easy for potential clients like you.

I've been trying to reach you regarding your eligibility

...of debt consolidation... I'm in!

...student loans, credit card... I'm sorry?

I'm in. Kevin, I need debt consolidation.

Really? You're being serious? This isn't a prank?

Kevin, I'm being serious as I can be.

I need debt consolidation.

Is that Jack?

Yeah, I've got to delay him so he doesn't take Glitch

...before Kevin finishes his job... Okay. Okay.

How can I help?

Call Sean.

Hello Jack!

Back to being excited about the deal?

You have no idea.

I mean, after what you said...

we decided we might as well make the most of this incredible situation.

...I, for one, am most excited by this... I know you're stalling, Ev.

Come midnight, I'm taking Glitch if you don't agree now.

I don't want that to happen.

I want you to listen, Ev.

You can agree to this buyout or you can meet your maker.

Those are your two choices.

Choose carefully.

You left out the third choice, Jack...

Hold, please.

I know what you're trying to do!

...You can't call Sheryl! Sorry.

Important call I've got to make so you're just going to...

she doesn't work here anymore... EV:... have to hold.

There he is!

And so what services will you be needing today, Mr. Ev?

So I don't exactly

need you to consolidate different debts into one with your company.

I just need one bulk chunk transferred to your company.

That defeats the purpose of debt consolidation to begin with.

I need it consolidated in my name with your company.

But that makes no sense!

Hi, Jessica.

Oh, hi, Ev.

How did you get this number?

Sheryl gave me your number for...

It doesn't matter.

Just since her Trender number is offline,

I was calling to see if you could give me her other number.

I thought you'd already talked, and she's no longer employed.

Yeah, I know. It gets just.

Don't worry about it.

I just need to talk again.

I forgot to ask her a question, thing, or whatever.

Being you, I'm not surprised.

I'm putting you on with her now.

Sir! The meeting isn't that way.

Without actually debt consolidating...

there's not much reason to do it for small amounts.

...How much are we talking? Everything. 4.6 million.

4.6 million? Transferred in your name?

With your company.

So mine can take on more.

Um, Ev, that's a lot of interest and paperwork.

Do you know how much that will...

I mean, do you have outside capital?

Any investors?

Oh, no. This is all on me.

Hi Ms. Sheryl.

You're still at the offices, they let you stay?

I've got to be out of here by morning.

They said I could stay as long as I didn't interfere...

which means they took away my company number.

I'm sorry.

Sir! Sir!

I can hear you're...

driving but some time this week, I'll need you to send your statements...

and routing information to the form on our website.

Your service number will be 5Y9375.

That's 5Y9375.

Okay. Sean will send it over tonight.

Tonight?

Yeah, Kevin, I forgot to mention that there's no use doing it if we can't get it

processed and in Lendstreamer's name by midnight.

Well, Jessica is the only one who knows.

I haven't told anybody else.

I was the one who hired everybody.

I'm sorry.

I shouldn't have called.

No, Ev it's okay.

It was time for me to leave.

You don't really realize how much the pot is boiling until you get out.

I know that's

a lot and a little time, but is it possible?

That is a lot and a little... Kevin, is it possible?

That's all I'm asking.

Lendstreamer will make it easy.

Sorry if this is the wrong time to ask, but...

have you set your sights on another company yet?

I've never looked.

I always thought I'd stay with the company I founded my whole life.

With Clapper.

It just never crossed my mind.

Can I suggest one?

So you can do that?

You can transfer all of Glitch's debt into my name with your company?

Correct, I just need your account info.

Sean will send that over in a jiffy.

And I've got to read the terms.

How long are these terms?

Don't worry. This is the abbreviated version.

Are you offering me a job, Ev?

I am offering one to you, to Jessica, to any of your best employees.

I need people who can run a company.

Who know the administrative stuff, what details to haggle over.

Can't promise great pay at first.

But I can promise a chance to take on Trender.

Just say, agree or disagree, ok?

This agreement is between each owner of an eligible account, a person

applying for an eligible account, or authorized representative appointed...

Sandberg!

I'm going to need some help running a company.

AH! You've asked the right guy.

...I have a good batch of students that are... No professor.

...I want you... Me?

Yes, you. You, Professor Sandberg.

Well I've always figured I was better at the theory side of things.

...The things you teach in... That's great.

But ever since the financial crash of '08

I can say I've had more than a passing interest in...

Professor, that's incredible to hear, is it to go?

SANDBERG:... money principles into action.

You could see it in the public but even more so in the eyes of

those companies that...

Sean, I'm putting all the debt on me.

What?

I'm putting it all on me.

I've got a telemarketer doing it right now.

I just need you to send in the account info for Glitch.

Okay.

Hello, Jack.

I know you're stalling, but there's not much it can do for you.

I know where you are.

There are men coming.

It's time to sell, Ev.

Tyler, I'm sorry.

I was a jerk.

Things have changed a lot in the past few hours.

I've had that happen before.

You've had a lot of things happen.

You've got a lot of experience.

Trender played unfairly.

I want to offer you a chance at redemption.

With your company?

Yeah, Tyler, with my company.

We need help.

We can't take on Trender alone.

I'm assuming the paycheck wouldn't be much incentive.

Right.

We can't pay much.

But we can once we go big.

I've got a pitch if you want to hear it.

Sean, explained a lot more than I let on.

Yeah. Sorry. I won't be able to pay much.

I'm fine with a little as long as it's in Bitcoin.

...the most basic fundamentals of both...

...macro and microeconomics,

...then they just might... Consumer business entities

...and individual owners of the business, unless the context indicates otherwise.

...If you're a small business owner... I agree.

Gotta read the whole thing.

I've covered my trail, Trender's covered theirs.

You have no case, and if you bring one to court we'll attack you for slander.

Get over it, Ev.

Your old man was going to die anyway.

He's heading to the parking garage!

Stop him!

And after a bull run...

like that, well, as an outsider looking in, I've always thought that...

Sean? SEAN: Yeah?

I've got another task to add to your job description.

When Tyler calls...

...can you get him set up on a payment system...

...that involves Bitcoin or whatever?

Tyler, former head of... EV: Yeah.

Can you act like we know ho bitcoin works so he'll join us?

I'm more concerned about your workload.

I'm sending Kevin...

...that info, filling out all the forms, AND setting Tyler up a payroll account.

Are you doing anything?

...I'm listening... Listening?

Listening is part of the CEO's job.

The job you set out to do is impossible.

But I'm glad you're doing it.

You see, Ev, the more time you spend on this witch hunt...

instead of working on the next Glitch or trying to file anti-trust suits...

...the more it makes me glad.

It's good for everyone to take on a few impossible jobs once in their life.

And it's going to be impossible for you to frame Trender.

I won't have to frame you.

Where are you going, Ev?

I have to go for my dad.

You don't know he's in danger.

His name was on a private Trender forum with a message...

...saying "We'll take care of him". Yes, my dad is in danger.

You can't make it in time. Eugene, Oregon is an eight hour drive.

Any negotiations involving him would be over long before then.

The authorities, call them, call someone, Sean.

There's no proof.

And there won't be any after the fact.

No one will believe us.

Actually, there could be proof.

You could go to the nearest police station and tell them physically.

Tell them? They would think I'm an idiot.

I didn't say it'd be easy.

Trying to go there and convince them of something of that specific...

and that far away.

...I can't do it... Do it for your dad.

Go to the police.

Show them the proof as the negotiations happen.

Where's the nearest station?

Closest station is about five miles away.

But my brother works at one Granite Bay.

He would listen.

Granite Bay. Where's that?

Nowhere near your dad.

Professor, could you repeat that last sentence?

Although it would be a momentous move, I would, in fact...

...be open to the possibility.

So you'll be joining the boys at Glitch?

Joining the boys. What does that mean?

So tell me Ev...

...do you want to be a billionaire? No.

No.

You've got 5 minutes...

I’m so sorry, Jack.

I've just got one more call to take.

Thank you for calling Lendstreamer.

You're call will be answered in the order it was received. Please hold.

A customer service representative will be with you shortly.

You can try to save your dad, or you can bring Jack to justice.

I suppose, you know it might be a yes.

Well, I'll go with that...

...you know, Ev, this reminds me.

Thank you for holding.

Please do not hang up as that will further delay your call.

No matter which way you go, he's dying.

...Trender will see to it... I can stop them.

I can call the nurse.

...I can call the caretaker. ...Trender will have bought them off.

We don't know how they're planning to attack.

You can't save him.

Meaning all responsibility for the assets...

...under both ownership of said company

And client are accountable for all said actions.

Do you agree...

...Mr. Kaufman? Yes, I agree.

Hello! This is Lendstreamer.

Are you in need of debt consolidation of student loans, credit...

No, I'm in need of speaking with Kevin.

Kevin, did the order go through?

Yes, sir.

Yes, it did.

...Hi, this is Kevin speaking... Are we good?

So good.

That's all I needed to hear.

You are out of time.

There's no more delaying.

I have given you every opportunity, every chance.

And you spit in my face.

No more, Ev.

My men will be bursting into your room shortly.

I know where you are and where you were headed.

You've been driving for 7 hours to see your dad.

Then you stopped at the side of the road to act like you were at an office.

We calculated the time, distance and speed at which an anxious man...

would travel to know exactly where you are.

There's no more phone calls, no more investors, no more advisors.

This is your last chance before I forcefully take control of Glitch.

I wish it hadn't come to this.

I wish it hadn't either.

I am sorry about your father.

I wasn't talking about that.

I’m sorry I didn't warn you earlier about turning you in.

I knew you'd try to, but feel no remorse.

It will be impossible to catch me.

Whoever tries should know that it won't be easy.

It wasn't.

If I'd given them a recording...

...they wouldn't have believed it was really the CEO of Trender.

It could have been a deepfake or clever edit or a voice simulator.

But they didn't get a recording.

They just heard the real thing themselves.

It was tough, Jack...

...thanks for showing your face and thanks for showing your true self.

I hope your true self enjoys its new home.

You may have taken the king, Ev.

But you had to sacrifice yours to do it.

You're in debt to me, Ev.

I'm calling the loan tonight.

Actually, about that.

You might want to check which company you acquired...

...because I'm not with Golden Gate anymore.

I personally validated their client list.

That's not possible.

What can I say?

Lendstreamer makes it easy.

Trender's more than just me.

They will crush you. They will crush Glitch.

I've got a team.

You good?

I just let my dad die.

You're doing your best.

You're doing everything you can now to bring Jack to justice.

I'll submit this to the team.

Work like crazy, and by midnight you'll be an official Lendstreamer customer.

Thank you for doing business with us.

Thank you.

You ready for a challenge?

I'm starting with Noah.

Can't have him calling in the middle of negotiations.

We good?

We got all the evidence that we need.

Jack's already gotten a visit.

He's about to get a new home.

We've got a lot of work to do. SEAN: And I've got a plan.

Our first option will be to get seed funding.

I'm getting a list of venture capitalists ready to call.

This is not going to be easy.

Scared of a little challenge?

If this works...

and we convict Jack, then he'll be forced to leave Trender.

That leaves someone else in charge.

But the legal ramifications...

should keep Trender off our backs long enough to get to a 10 million users.

At that point, we can call a certain venture capitalist

who might be interested.

Well, I've been looking for a job.

It's good to have you back.

Hi, Ev.

Hey. Hey, Crystal, are you...

...are you all right?

I mean... EV: Are you safe?

Yeah. Yeah, I am.

Did you get my message?

To my old phone?

I dumped it after I got several threatening messages.

I'm so sorry, Crystal.

What was it about?

I apologized.

It was an apology.

I'm sorry for cutting you off, for forgetting about you, for being a jerk.

Ev, there's something you should know about your father.

I already know.

I don't think you understand, Ev... he passed...

I know, Crystal.

I know what happened.

I got to talk with him.

I was there.

I went anyway...

...he was on the phone with some unknown number...

...and he couldn't talk, but...

I held his hand.

I was there for his last breath.

Oh, thank God.

Thank you, Crystal. Thank you.

I'm sorry for what I said.

All that stuff I was doing, it fell apart.

And there was this change of plan.

I didn't tell you.

I'm sorry, Crystal.

Now we're keeping Glitch.

I want you to be part of it, not just someone to explain...

...what's happening with it.

I want you to help run it.

You sure, Noah?

It's not going to be an easy job.

Oh, I'm in.

I'd be happy to join Glitch.

And one more thing.

Once you get everything...

packed up at Trender HQ, could you maybe grab that computer I left?

Ev, I knew you were calling to reaffirm my commitment to Glitch.

And? SEAN: I'm in.

You in, Professor?

Oh, I'm in.

You're in?

Just like that?

No story, no advice, nothing?

Actually.

I've got nothing.

I'm in.

Thank you for offering.

You have all the help in the world...

...and everyone who works for me will be happy to join.

I want to help.

I want to help beat Trender.

Ev, I'm glad to be working with the perfect mix of hardworking...

...business manager and hardworking software programmer.

What are you gonna say?

Probably something stupid.

You've had some practice.

Ten bucks says you'll do all right.

You sure we're going to turn Glitch into a success?

It's not going to be easy.

I'm up for the challenge.

Face to face with the choice you're making

Don’t you think that it might be a bit premature to shut this door?

We play the blame game and no one’s win-ning. You’re complaining and I’m complicit

You want more But who’s keeping score?

I could never love another like you And you’ll never do better than me

I don’t want to be your biggest mistake Don’t want to be the one that got away

Don’t burn it to the ground Don’t give up on me now

I know you don’t wanna wake up wishing Overthinking what we coulda shoulda changed

Don’t burn it to the ground Don’t give up on me now

I trust my gut, but you’re second-guessin

What we’ve got, but I swear the best is yet to come

Don’t turn and run

This could be exactly

What we need agree to disagree

I don’t want to be your biggest mistake Don’t want to be the one that got away

I could never love another like you And you’ll never do better than me

I could never love another like you And you’ll never do better than me

I could never love another like you And you’ll never do better than me

I could never love another like you And you’ll never do better than me

better than me

I don’t want to be your biggest mistake Don’t want to be the one that got away

Don’t burn it to the ground Don’t give up on me now

I know you don’t wanna wake up wishing Overthinking what we coulda shoulda changed

Don’t burn it to the ground Don’t give up on me now

I don’t want to be your biggest mistake Don’t want to be the one that got away

Don’t burn it to the ground Don’t give up on me now

I know you don’t wanna wake up wishing Overthinking what we coulda shoulda changed

So what we’re striking out Don’t burn it to the ground

There’s a break in the clouds Don’t give up on me now

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