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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:11,899 --> 00:00:14,766 - I can't really remember the last time I had a chance 2 00:00:14,836 --> 00:00:18,670 to go out in the backyard and just run around. 3 00:00:18,740 --> 00:00:21,505 - School's just so much pressure that every day, I would wake up, 4 00:00:21,576 --> 00:00:24,876 and I would wake up dreading it. 5 00:00:24,946 --> 00:00:27,972 - There's definitely been times when I've sat doing my homework, 6 00:00:28,049 --> 00:00:31,485 you know, and then just started crying. 7 00:00:31,552 --> 00:00:33,748 - Not eating made me have more energy, 8 00:00:33,821 --> 00:00:35,687 and I could get so much stuff done at night, 9 00:00:35,757 --> 00:00:40,422 but it still was not enough time to get everything done. 10 00:00:40,495 --> 00:00:43,260 - My mom checked me into a stress center. 11 00:00:45,299 --> 00:00:47,131 - You think you know your children. 12 00:00:47,201 --> 00:00:48,862 I thought I knew my little girl. 13 00:00:51,139 --> 00:00:53,335 - We definitely, at college, we still do whatever it takes 14 00:00:53,408 --> 00:00:56,400 to get the A, Just like in high school. 15 00:00:56,477 --> 00:00:58,309 - Things that actually get our students to think 16 00:00:58,379 --> 00:01:00,939 are pushed aside. 17 00:01:01,015 --> 00:01:03,382 - How come no one's insisting that it change? 18 00:01:18,733 --> 00:01:20,497 ♪ - When I was a child ♪ 19 00:01:20,568 --> 00:01:22,696 ♪ Everybody smiled ♪ 20 00:01:22,770 --> 00:01:26,934 ♪ Nobody knows me at all ♪ 21 00:01:27,008 --> 00:01:28,533 ♪ Very late at night ♪ 22 00:01:28,609 --> 00:01:31,271 ♪ And in the morning light ♪ 23 00:01:31,345 --> 00:01:35,339 ♪ Nobody knows me at all ♪ 24 00:01:35,416 --> 00:01:37,180 ♪ I got lots of friends ♪ 25 00:01:37,251 --> 00:01:39,379 ♪ Yes, but then again ♪ 26 00:01:39,454 --> 00:01:43,516 ♪ Nobody knows me at all ♪ 27 00:01:43,591 --> 00:01:45,491 ♪ Very late at night ♪ 28 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:47,722 ♪ And in the morning light ♪ 29 00:01:47,795 --> 00:01:51,754 ♪ Nobody knows me at all ♪ 30 00:01:51,833 --> 00:01:59,001 ♪ And, oh, ♪ ♪ when the lights are low ♪ 31 00:01:59,073 --> 00:02:02,270 ♪ Oh ♪ 32 00:02:02,343 --> 00:02:08,373 ♪ With someone I don't know, ♪ ♪ oh ♪ 33 00:02:08,449 --> 00:02:10,110 ♪ I know how you feel ♪ 34 00:02:10,184 --> 00:02:12,551 ♪ No secrets to reveal ♪ 35 00:02:12,620 --> 00:02:16,558 ♪ Nobody knows me at all ♪ 36 00:02:16,625 --> 00:02:18,719 ♪ Nobody knows me ♪ 37 00:02:18,794 --> 00:02:20,853 ♪ Nobody knows me ♪ 38 00:02:20,929 --> 00:02:23,660 ♪ Nobody knows me at all ♪ 39 00:02:32,541 --> 00:02:36,000 - I came from a family where my parents were divorced. 40 00:02:36,078 --> 00:02:38,069 My mother was a single parent 41 00:02:38,147 --> 00:02:42,584 raising four kids on very little income. 42 00:02:42,651 --> 00:02:44,483 That drove me to work really hard 43 00:02:44,553 --> 00:02:48,786 so that I could be independent. 44 00:02:48,857 --> 00:02:50,723 My mom taught me from a very young age 45 00:02:50,793 --> 00:02:52,591 that an education was something 46 00:02:52,661 --> 00:02:54,652 that would help you go far in life, 47 00:02:54,730 --> 00:02:57,199 and it was something that couldn't be taken away from you. 48 00:03:00,235 --> 00:03:01,600 "Good night, moon. 49 00:03:01,670 --> 00:03:05,629 Good night, cow jumping over the moon." 50 00:03:05,707 --> 00:03:09,371 When I had kids, I wanted to be a really good mom. 51 00:03:09,445 --> 00:03:11,345 - Dada. - Yes, Shelby? 52 00:03:11,413 --> 00:03:12,710 - Dada. - Yes. 53 00:03:12,781 --> 00:03:15,944 - I wanted to provide my kids with the security 54 00:03:16,018 --> 00:03:17,782 of a stable family, 55 00:03:17,853 --> 00:03:20,345 and I wanted my kids to have a good education. 56 00:03:20,422 --> 00:03:22,322 I wanted to give them 57 00:03:22,391 --> 00:03:25,918 the opportunities that I didn't have growing up. 58 00:03:25,994 --> 00:03:28,156 So what do you think? - It was fun. 59 00:03:28,230 --> 00:03:30,358 - Was it good? - Yes. 60 00:03:30,432 --> 00:03:32,958 - I also really wanted to have time together. 61 00:03:33,035 --> 00:03:33,968 - Everybody wave. 62 00:03:34,036 --> 00:03:35,367 What are you growing this year? 63 00:03:35,437 --> 00:03:37,838 - Corn. - Corn? What else? 64 00:03:37,906 --> 00:03:39,305 Pumpkins? 65 00:03:39,374 --> 00:03:40,398 - To the sky. 66 00:03:40,476 --> 00:03:42,672 - And that worked out well for a few years, 67 00:03:42,745 --> 00:03:44,406 but as my kids got older 68 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:47,973 and the pressures on them from school were greater 69 00:03:48,050 --> 00:03:49,449 and the time commitment 70 00:03:49,518 --> 00:03:52,977 for extra-curricular activities increased, 71 00:03:53,055 --> 00:03:55,990 it became much more complicated. 72 00:03:58,394 --> 00:04:00,021 - Zakary. 73 00:04:00,095 --> 00:04:01,221 Let's go. Let's go. Here. 74 00:04:08,237 --> 00:04:10,137 - I didn't think when I had kids 75 00:04:10,205 --> 00:04:11,900 that the only time I would see them 76 00:04:11,974 --> 00:04:14,568 was for 20 minutes at dinner. 77 00:04:14,643 --> 00:04:18,671 In all three of my kids, I started to see the toll 78 00:04:18,747 --> 00:04:22,581 that the schedule and the stress was taking on them. 79 00:04:22,651 --> 00:04:26,383 Our oldest daughter looks like all is fine. 80 00:04:26,455 --> 00:04:28,652 She's doing really well in school, 81 00:04:28,725 --> 00:04:30,750 but she doesn't have time to sleep at night 82 00:04:30,827 --> 00:04:33,853 or to hang out with friends. 83 00:04:33,930 --> 00:04:36,422 For Jamey, when she started seventh grade, 84 00:04:36,499 --> 00:04:39,059 the workload really increased. 85 00:04:39,135 --> 00:04:42,230 No matter how much time she spent doing homework, 86 00:04:42,305 --> 00:04:44,933 she wasn't getting the grades that she expected. 87 00:04:45,008 --> 00:04:46,407 In Zakary's case, 88 00:04:46,476 --> 00:04:48,740 when he started fourth grade this year, 89 00:04:48,812 --> 00:04:50,507 the homework level increased. 90 00:04:50,580 --> 00:04:53,379 Every evening became a battle around homework. 91 00:04:53,450 --> 00:04:54,849 Right now? - Yeah. 92 00:04:54,918 --> 00:04:56,784 - Well, you need help 'cause you weren't doing it. 93 00:04:56,853 --> 00:04:58,252 - No, I didn't! - Let him do it himself. 94 00:04:58,321 --> 00:04:59,686 - Do your-do it. 95 00:04:59,756 --> 00:05:02,384 - All three of my kids started complaining about headaches 96 00:05:02,459 --> 00:05:04,120 from school or stomachaches, 97 00:05:04,194 --> 00:05:05,923 or they would wake up in the middle of the night 98 00:05:05,995 --> 00:05:07,861 worried about a test the next day, 99 00:05:07,931 --> 00:05:10,764 and I didn't really know how seriously to take it. 100 00:05:10,834 --> 00:05:12,199 At that same time, 101 00:05:12,268 --> 00:05:15,704 a 13-year-old girl in my community committed suicide. 102 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:21,274 She was the exact same age as my oldest daughter. 103 00:05:23,179 --> 00:05:24,647 When something like that happens, 104 00:05:24,714 --> 00:05:28,673 you can't help but start worrying about your own kids. 105 00:05:28,752 --> 00:05:31,551 I started checking more often on them. 106 00:05:31,621 --> 00:05:34,056 There was a night where I found my daughter out of bed, 107 00:05:34,124 --> 00:05:36,889 doubled over in pain. 108 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:39,588 Doug and I took her to the emergency room, 109 00:05:39,662 --> 00:05:41,596 and after a series of tests, 110 00:05:41,664 --> 00:05:45,464 the doctors concluded that her condition was stress-induced. 111 00:05:45,535 --> 00:05:48,766 I wanted to understand what was going on. 112 00:05:48,838 --> 00:05:53,105 I started talking to parents in my community, to students, 113 00:05:53,176 --> 00:05:57,409 to experts, and visiting schools across the country. 114 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:00,643 I was determined to find out how we had gotten to a place 115 00:06:00,717 --> 00:06:03,709 where our family had so little time together, 116 00:06:03,787 --> 00:06:05,778 where our kids were physically sick 117 00:06:05,855 --> 00:06:07,653 because of the pressures they were under, 118 00:06:07,724 --> 00:06:11,786 and where a 13-year-old girl had taken her life. 119 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:22,434 - These kids are so overscheduled and tired. 120 00:06:22,505 --> 00:06:26,169 We are always looking at the next step, 121 00:06:26,242 --> 00:06:27,903 and this is what the kids say. 122 00:06:27,977 --> 00:06:29,877 They say, "In elementary school, 123 00:06:29,946 --> 00:06:31,778 I was worried about high school." 124 00:06:31,848 --> 00:06:34,874 We've stolen 11th and 12th grade from them. 125 00:06:34,951 --> 00:06:36,578 I'm afraid that our children 126 00:06:36,653 --> 00:06:40,021 are going to sue us for stealing their childhoods. 127 00:06:42,660 --> 00:06:45,254 - We're a New York City suburb, high-powered parents, 128 00:06:45,329 --> 00:06:48,026 who are very competitive themselves, many of them, 129 00:06:48,099 --> 00:06:50,431 and, you know, and they'll go to parties and things, 130 00:06:50,501 --> 00:06:52,629 and they want to be able to talk about their kid 131 00:06:52,703 --> 00:06:55,468 is going to be going to Harvard or the equivalent, 132 00:06:55,539 --> 00:06:56,870 and I worry. 133 00:06:56,941 --> 00:07:01,105 What happens when their kid is not going in that direction? 134 00:07:04,348 --> 00:07:07,079 - You have a system that is trying 135 00:07:07,151 --> 00:07:14,080 to further robot-icize students, mechanize them, if you will, 136 00:07:14,158 --> 00:07:17,856 to be, you know, these academic competitors, 137 00:07:17,928 --> 00:07:20,124 these producers. 138 00:07:20,197 --> 00:07:23,497 The very nature of it in itself is very dehumanizing. 139 00:07:23,567 --> 00:07:26,662 - I put so much pressure on myself. 140 00:07:26,737 --> 00:07:30,105 - I definitely felt a lot of pressure to have perfect grades. 141 00:07:30,174 --> 00:07:33,007 - The stress definitely first comes from home. 142 00:07:33,077 --> 00:07:35,273 - Because my mother wasn't able to graduate, 143 00:07:35,346 --> 00:07:38,509 she puts extra pressure on us. 144 00:07:38,582 --> 00:07:40,641 - You need to have the best grades. 145 00:07:40,718 --> 00:07:42,914 You need to be able to afford the college. 146 00:07:42,987 --> 00:07:44,455 - My family is low-income, 147 00:07:44,522 --> 00:07:47,048 so there's no way I could afford college without financial aid. 148 00:07:47,124 --> 00:07:49,491 - Until senior year, I haven't had any free periods. 149 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:50,925 I haven't had lunch periods. 150 00:07:50,995 --> 00:07:52,929 - I didn't want to take out loans, not for my family. 151 00:07:52,997 --> 00:07:54,260 - When I was in middle school, 152 00:07:54,331 --> 00:07:56,322 I would sometimes stay up till 1:00 in the morning. 153 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:59,370 - I would spend six hours a night, 154 00:07:59,437 --> 00:08:01,405 at least, on my homework. 155 00:08:01,472 --> 00:08:02,769 - It's not just your homework. 156 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:05,275 - I have soccer practice every day from, like, 157 00:08:05,342 --> 00:08:07,401 after school to 6:00, and then from 6:00 to 8:00, 158 00:08:07,478 --> 00:08:09,242 I have my outside-of-school practice. 159 00:08:09,313 --> 00:08:10,803 - We're in so many different clubs. 160 00:08:10,881 --> 00:08:12,975 - Now it's all about preparing yourself 161 00:08:13,050 --> 00:08:14,916 to look good for colleges. 162 00:08:14,985 --> 00:08:16,919 - High school is about learning how to pass tests. 163 00:08:16,987 --> 00:08:19,547 - You try to stuff as much information 164 00:08:19,623 --> 00:08:20,954 into your brain as possible, 165 00:08:21,025 --> 00:08:24,188 then as soon as you're done with it, out it goes. 166 00:08:24,261 --> 00:08:27,231 - You start out in, like, kindergarten. 167 00:08:27,298 --> 00:08:28,993 - You have to get into the top schools. 168 00:08:29,066 --> 00:08:31,535 - You have to take tests and do interviews 169 00:08:31,602 --> 00:08:32,933 to get into public high schools. 170 00:08:33,003 --> 00:08:35,938 - And then AP, and then a four-year college. 171 00:08:36,006 --> 00:08:37,405 - If I don't get into college, you know, 172 00:08:37,475 --> 00:08:40,911 my mind-set is basically, like, you know, I'm screwed. 173 00:08:40,978 --> 00:08:42,707 - And then graduate school. 174 00:08:42,780 --> 00:08:43,941 - Now, how are you gonna get into 175 00:08:44,014 --> 00:08:46,176 a top-tier medical school or law school? 176 00:08:46,250 --> 00:08:47,615 - And then what? 177 00:08:47,685 --> 00:08:50,985 People get caught up in this, like, race to nowhere. 178 00:09:00,932 --> 00:09:01,865 - I'm Jessica Vaughn, 179 00:09:01,933 --> 00:09:02,900 and I'm a senior. 180 00:09:02,968 --> 00:09:04,129 I just wanted to put it out there 181 00:09:04,202 --> 00:09:06,330 to parents and teachers that the worst question 182 00:09:06,405 --> 00:09:09,431 you can ask your child in high school is, "And?" 183 00:09:09,508 --> 00:09:12,739 Like, they'll say, "I'm in three AF' classes." 184 00:09:12,811 --> 00:09:13,744 "And?" 185 00:09:13,812 --> 00:09:15,746 "Well, I do sports." "And?" 186 00:09:15,814 --> 00:09:17,339 "Well, I work at the theater." 187 00:09:17,416 --> 00:09:19,510 "And? Well, what else are you doing?" 188 00:09:19,584 --> 00:09:21,074 "I'm in three clubs." 189 00:09:21,153 --> 00:09:22,643 "Well, you know what looks really good? 190 00:09:22,721 --> 00:09:23,984 "Community service. 191 00:09:24,056 --> 00:09:26,252 "They're looking for all of this on college applications. 192 00:09:26,324 --> 00:09:27,951 Why aren't you doing this, this, and this?" 193 00:09:28,026 --> 00:09:30,154 And I find that that question comes up all the time. 194 00:09:30,228 --> 00:09:31,992 Everyone expects us to be superheroes. 195 00:09:32,064 --> 00:09:33,190 We need to be doing more. 196 00:09:33,265 --> 00:09:34,892 Why aren't we doing more for our community? 197 00:09:34,966 --> 00:09:36,127 We need to be doing more. 198 00:09:36,201 --> 00:09:37,726 Why aren't you working harder in school? 199 00:09:37,803 --> 00:09:40,033 And I think sometimes parents need to just step back and say, 200 00:09:40,105 --> 00:09:42,574 "You know what? You've done a really good job." 201 00:09:42,774 --> 00:09:44,902 - Some of the pressure that is out there is real. 202 00:09:44,976 --> 00:09:46,569 If you want to have the same opportunities 203 00:09:46,645 --> 00:09:48,010 that your parents had, 204 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:51,607 to attend those kinds of schools and all, you have to do more. 205 00:09:51,683 --> 00:09:53,048 You have to have better test scores. 206 00:09:53,118 --> 00:09:54,244 You have to have better grades. 207 00:09:54,319 --> 00:09:56,253 You have to have more activities. 208 00:09:56,321 --> 00:09:59,882 So there is definitely some part of the pressure 209 00:09:59,958 --> 00:10:01,653 that's created by the demographic. 210 00:10:01,727 --> 00:10:04,059 - I can't help it, I mean, you know, 211 00:10:04,129 --> 00:10:05,528 when you start their freshman year 212 00:10:05,597 --> 00:10:08,225 and you go to the orientation at the high school 213 00:10:08,300 --> 00:10:11,395 and all they talk about is what is necessary 214 00:10:11,470 --> 00:10:12,835 to get into college. 215 00:10:12,904 --> 00:10:16,169 People are raising their hands and asking about AP courses and, 216 00:10:16,241 --> 00:10:17,208 "How do you get into UC?" 217 00:10:17,275 --> 00:10:18,868 I mean, you look around, and you think, 218 00:10:18,944 --> 00:10:22,073 "I guess this is what everybody's gonna be doing." 219 00:10:22,147 --> 00:10:23,581 - I think if you ask them, 220 00:10:23,648 --> 00:10:26,618 they'd probably say that we did pressure them in some way, 221 00:10:26,685 --> 00:10:30,121 because we did want them to have a choice. 222 00:10:30,188 --> 00:10:32,680 That was my, you know, feeling as a parent, 223 00:10:32,758 --> 00:10:35,523 that the better you do, the more choices that you have. 224 00:10:35,594 --> 00:10:37,153 - I want them to be able to do 225 00:10:37,229 --> 00:10:39,197 what I wasn't able to accomplish. 226 00:10:39,264 --> 00:10:41,858 Me, as a young parent having four kids, 227 00:10:41,933 --> 00:10:43,901 I wasn't able to go back to school 228 00:10:43,969 --> 00:10:45,403 and get myself an education, 229 00:10:45,470 --> 00:10:47,404 and so I want them to have the things 230 00:10:47,472 --> 00:10:50,066 that I never was able to have. 231 00:10:50,142 --> 00:10:51,439 - Even though we know better, 232 00:10:51,510 --> 00:10:53,478 even though we know we shouldn't be pushing our kids, 233 00:10:53,545 --> 00:10:55,536 inadvertently, we are, you know? 234 00:10:55,614 --> 00:10:58,311 I'm just as guilty of saying to my daughters 235 00:10:58,383 --> 00:11:01,011 when they get in the car, "So how was school today? 236 00:11:01,086 --> 00:11:03,487 "Did you get your test back? Do you have any homework? 237 00:11:03,555 --> 00:11:05,023 "How much homework do you have? 238 00:11:05,090 --> 00:11:06,683 How are you gonna study for that test?" 239 00:11:06,758 --> 00:11:08,784 Because I am also feeling the pressure 240 00:11:08,861 --> 00:11:12,729 that they need to work really, really hard. 241 00:11:12,799 --> 00:11:16,360 - We want the best for them, but that, in the end, 242 00:11:16,436 --> 00:11:19,098 is causing us to put pressure on them 243 00:11:19,172 --> 00:11:21,664 to be whatever we think they ought to be. 244 00:11:21,741 --> 00:11:24,904 Even though we send them to all these sports camps 245 00:11:24,977 --> 00:11:27,378 and all their private lessons and the tutors and the- 246 00:11:27,447 --> 00:11:30,314 we would drop anything any time for our kids, 247 00:11:30,383 --> 00:11:34,251 but in my mind, it's gone way to the extreme. 248 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:35,549 - We're all caught up in it. 249 00:11:35,621 --> 00:11:38,090 We're all afraid that our children 250 00:11:38,157 --> 00:11:40,751 won't be able to be as successful as we are. 251 00:11:40,827 --> 00:11:43,319 - And so you have a fear from the parents that, 252 00:11:43,396 --> 00:11:45,626 "My kid needs to be able to get a job. 253 00:11:45,698 --> 00:11:48,030 "Okay, I got 'em in the accelerated program. 254 00:11:48,101 --> 00:11:50,331 "That's the first step, but now they need to perform 255 00:11:50,403 --> 00:11:53,464 and compete so they can get into a 'good school, “ 256 00:11:53,539 --> 00:11:54,700 And it's out of love. 257 00:11:54,774 --> 00:11:56,208 It's out concern. It's out of fear. 258 00:11:56,275 --> 00:11:58,767 It's out of all these things that parents normally have, 259 00:11:58,845 --> 00:12:04,113 but it ends up turning kids into little professionals. 260 00:12:04,183 --> 00:12:08,211 All: I Oh, light the candles I 261 00:12:08,287 --> 00:12:10,915 I All around the world I 262 00:12:10,990 --> 00:12:12,617 I Let them shine I 263 00:12:12,692 --> 00:12:13,750 I Let them shine I 264 00:12:13,826 --> 00:12:15,885 I Oh, let them shine I 265 00:12:19,132 --> 00:12:22,397 - We live in a society today where, like, 266 00:12:22,468 --> 00:12:25,028 oh, you have to be smart, but also, you have to be pretty, 267 00:12:25,104 --> 00:12:26,697 and also, you have to, you know, do sports, 268 00:12:26,773 --> 00:12:28,241 and you have to be involved in the arts, 269 00:12:28,307 --> 00:12:30,435 and amongst all that, 270 00:12:30,510 --> 00:12:32,376 you have to find something unique about yourself, 271 00:12:32,445 --> 00:12:35,312 and you have to know yourself, 272 00:12:35,381 --> 00:12:36,746 because if you don't know yourself 273 00:12:36,816 --> 00:12:39,717 before you do all of that, you're gonna lose yourself. 274 00:12:43,923 --> 00:12:46,449 - I have grown up in Oakland, California. 275 00:12:46,526 --> 00:12:48,585 I'm 19 years old. 276 00:12:48,661 --> 00:12:53,223 I went to a private school starting in kindergarten. 277 00:12:53,299 --> 00:12:57,497 It was a very competitive, small school. 278 00:12:57,570 --> 00:13:01,473 A lot of homework started probably around fifth grade, 279 00:13:01,541 --> 00:13:06,638 but middle school started about an hour per class a night. 280 00:13:06,713 --> 00:13:10,672 I participated in soccer, took tennis lessons, 281 00:13:10,750 --> 00:13:13,185 went to Hebrew school three times a week, 282 00:13:13,252 --> 00:13:15,243 plus the homework on top of that. 283 00:13:15,321 --> 00:13:17,983 It was a very hectic schedule. 284 00:13:18,057 --> 00:13:21,153 Home life in middle school was difficult. 285 00:13:21,228 --> 00:13:28,191 It was the time when my parents and I had the biggest fights. 286 00:13:28,268 --> 00:13:30,396 I was expected to get straight A's. 287 00:13:30,471 --> 00:13:32,098 I had so much homework. 288 00:13:32,172 --> 00:13:33,640 They would want to know when I had tests 289 00:13:33,707 --> 00:13:35,334 and tell me to study for them, 290 00:13:35,409 --> 00:13:38,868 and I wouldn't want them to know anything about my school life. 291 00:13:38,946 --> 00:13:43,008 I figured out that not eating made me have more energy. 292 00:13:43,083 --> 00:13:45,211 I would stay up later. It gave me insomnia. 293 00:13:45,285 --> 00:13:46,480 So I wouldn't sleep at night. 294 00:13:46,553 --> 00:13:48,317 I could get so much stuff done at night, 295 00:13:48,389 --> 00:13:51,359 but it still was not enough time to get everything done. 296 00:13:51,425 --> 00:13:56,522 In tenth grade, my anorexia flared up. 297 00:13:56,597 --> 00:13:59,066 I had so much homework in tenth grade, 298 00:13:59,133 --> 00:14:01,500 so many papers, so many projects. 299 00:14:01,568 --> 00:14:03,161 I would stay up all night. 300 00:14:03,237 --> 00:14:05,672 I remember coming up to my history teacher 301 00:14:05,739 --> 00:14:08,174 the day my history final was due. 302 00:14:08,242 --> 00:14:10,210 I came up to him crying. 303 00:14:10,277 --> 00:14:14,771 I had a huge coffee in my hand, and I was sobbing, 304 00:14:14,848 --> 00:14:18,113 and about ten other people did too. 305 00:14:18,185 --> 00:14:20,779 I got very sleep-deprived. 306 00:14:20,854 --> 00:14:24,552 When you are sleep deprived, your concentration is off. 307 00:14:24,625 --> 00:14:27,720 Instead of taking notes and remembering everything, 308 00:14:27,795 --> 00:14:30,093 you're kind of just staring off into space. 309 00:14:30,164 --> 00:14:37,298 I was sent to a facility for eating disorders specifically. 310 00:14:37,371 --> 00:14:42,366 I was admitted to a medical hospital twice. 311 00:14:42,443 --> 00:14:44,571 When I returned to school in 11th grade, 312 00:14:44,645 --> 00:14:46,443 my weight had plummeted. 313 00:14:46,513 --> 00:14:49,278 The workload had increased, 314 00:14:49,349 --> 00:14:52,910 and the head of the school told me 315 00:14:52,986 --> 00:14:55,455 she did not want me coming back, 316 00:14:55,522 --> 00:14:58,116 because she could not have students and teachers 317 00:14:58,192 --> 00:14:59,125 worrying about me. 318 00:14:59,193 --> 00:15:01,218 I was too much of a distraction. 319 00:15:01,295 --> 00:15:05,357 Another high school was really hard to go into senior year, 320 00:15:05,432 --> 00:15:07,833 so I took my G.E.D. 321 00:15:07,968 --> 00:15:08,901 Good boy. 322 00:15:08,969 --> 00:15:14,203 - The common force that drives kids 323 00:15:14,274 --> 00:15:17,039 towards so many negative behaviors is stress. 324 00:15:17,111 --> 00:15:20,137 It's coming from schools. 325 00:15:20,214 --> 00:15:22,546 It's coming from colleges, 326 00:15:22,616 --> 00:15:23,947 and it's coming from all the places 327 00:15:24,017 --> 00:15:26,486 that it's always come from during adolescence. 328 00:15:26,553 --> 00:15:29,181 Don't forget, adolescence is a tough time. 329 00:15:29,256 --> 00:15:31,657 You know, you worry about what you look like, 330 00:15:31,725 --> 00:15:34,093 what you feel like, what you act like to your peers. 331 00:15:34,162 --> 00:15:36,824 The media tells you exactly what you're supposed to buy 332 00:15:36,898 --> 00:15:37,922 to be acceptable, 333 00:15:37,999 --> 00:15:39,262 what you're supposed to look like 334 00:15:39,334 --> 00:15:41,200 and how you're supposed to think to be acceptable, 335 00:15:41,269 --> 00:15:44,034 and you're trying to answer this fundamental question 336 00:15:44,105 --> 00:15:47,336 of adolescence, which is, "Who am I?" 337 00:15:47,409 --> 00:15:51,505 - I think it's captured by this girl that came into my office. 338 00:15:51,579 --> 00:15:53,240 She's got all the great social skills, 339 00:15:53,314 --> 00:15:54,941 but she's wearing a cutter T-shirt. 340 00:15:55,016 --> 00:15:56,882 That's a T-shirt that's pulled low over the wrist 341 00:15:56,951 --> 00:15:58,282 to hide cutting. 342 00:15:58,353 --> 00:16:00,845 And by the end of the session, she sort of pulls it back, 343 00:16:00,922 --> 00:16:02,583 and that morning, she had taken a razor 344 00:16:02,657 --> 00:16:05,957 and incised the word "empty" into her forearm. 345 00:16:06,027 --> 00:16:09,190 And she's emblematic, to me, of the kinds of kids 346 00:16:09,264 --> 00:16:10,857 that I'm seeing more and more frequently, 347 00:16:10,932 --> 00:16:13,924 and that's kids who look terrific on the outside, 348 00:16:14,002 --> 00:16:16,972 terrific presentation, but you roll up their sleeve, 349 00:16:17,038 --> 00:16:19,905 and metaphorically, and in her case, literally, 350 00:16:19,974 --> 00:16:21,908 they're bleeding underneath. 351 00:16:24,446 --> 00:16:28,110 - When success is defined by high grades, test scores, 352 00:16:28,183 --> 00:16:32,677 trophies, we know that we end up with unprepared, disengaged, 353 00:16:32,754 --> 00:16:35,883 exhausted, and ultimately unhealthy kids. 354 00:16:37,792 --> 00:16:39,886 - I've gone through bouts of depression, 355 00:16:39,961 --> 00:16:42,396 just because you feel so swamped. 356 00:16:42,464 --> 00:16:43,898 There's so much work. 357 00:16:43,965 --> 00:16:46,297 It feels like there's piles and piles of work to be done, 358 00:16:46,368 --> 00:16:47,961 and it's all kept in your head, 359 00:16:48,036 --> 00:16:49,731 and you don't know how to sort through it all, 360 00:16:49,804 --> 00:16:52,569 and you don't ever think you're ever gonna get it done. 361 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:54,768 - Sometimes when I get stressed out, 362 00:16:54,843 --> 00:16:56,538 I feel a little sick. 363 00:16:56,611 --> 00:16:59,137 Like, I actually get headaches. 364 00:16:59,214 --> 00:17:00,943 - Usually when stress gets really bad, 365 00:17:01,015 --> 00:17:02,915 I get a lot of stomachaches. 366 00:17:02,984 --> 00:17:05,351 - I think it was in November where I almost, like, 367 00:17:05,420 --> 00:17:09,618 had an emotional breakdown, because at the end of November, 368 00:17:09,691 --> 00:17:12,422 that was when UC's application was due, November 30th, 369 00:17:12,494 --> 00:17:14,758 and I was also applying for a scholarship. 370 00:17:14,829 --> 00:17:15,887 I wasn't eating. 371 00:17:15,964 --> 00:17:17,329 I wasn't even taking care of myself. 372 00:17:17,399 --> 00:17:18,992 You care so much about getting in, 373 00:17:19,067 --> 00:17:21,035 about making people proud of you 374 00:17:21,102 --> 00:17:23,070 and living up to that expectation 375 00:17:23,138 --> 00:17:25,106 and that standard that, like, 376 00:17:25,173 --> 00:17:27,107 you start neglecting yourself, your health. 377 00:17:27,175 --> 00:17:30,167 Everything gets focused on that piece of application 378 00:17:30,245 --> 00:17:34,045 that you're putting in for people who never meet you. 379 00:17:34,115 --> 00:17:39,747 - I was really stressed, and I- all my joints swelled. 380 00:17:39,921 --> 00:17:41,582 - In sixth grade last year, 381 00:17:41,690 --> 00:17:43,556 I had a lot of homework one night, 382 00:17:43,625 --> 00:17:46,493 and it got really late, so my mom told me to go to bed, 383 00:17:46,562 --> 00:17:49,259 but I thought my teachers would get really mad at me 384 00:17:49,332 --> 00:17:50,766 if I didn't finish my homework, 385 00:17:50,833 --> 00:17:57,705 so I woke up in the middle of the night to finish my homework. 386 00:17:57,773 --> 00:17:59,741 - These kids are growing. 387 00:17:59,809 --> 00:18:04,212 They need 9 to 11 hours of sleep in elementary school. 388 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:06,681 The high school kids are still growing. 389 00:18:06,749 --> 00:18:08,877 Some of them get six hours of sleep 390 00:18:08,951 --> 00:18:11,818 because they're taking six AP classes. 391 00:18:11,887 --> 00:18:18,953 It is a form of neglect of the children 392 00:18:19,028 --> 00:18:21,497 that they don't get enough sleep. 393 00:18:21,564 --> 00:18:25,432 - I visited a high school once that had a drug problem. 394 00:18:25,501 --> 00:18:27,595 Well, I assumed it was recreational drugs 395 00:18:27,670 --> 00:18:30,071 like I knew about in my youth, 396 00:18:30,139 --> 00:18:32,904 but no, I'm talking about stimulants and things like that 397 00:18:32,975 --> 00:18:34,101 that help you stay up all night 398 00:18:34,176 --> 00:18:36,338 or tranquilizers that help you come down 399 00:18:36,412 --> 00:18:38,540 after you've been taking too many stimulants. 400 00:18:38,614 --> 00:18:42,847 Those are the kinds of problems that we're seeing on the rise. 401 00:18:42,918 --> 00:18:46,980 - I took Adderall my first time as a junior. 402 00:18:47,056 --> 00:18:49,218 I knew a lot of people that took it, 403 00:18:49,291 --> 00:18:51,055 and I would ask them for it every once in a while. 404 00:18:51,127 --> 00:18:52,561 It seems like everyone has ADD now, 405 00:18:52,628 --> 00:18:57,464 so most anyone you talk to knows someone that takes medicine. 406 00:18:57,533 --> 00:19:00,161 I was a really well-rounded person in high school, 407 00:19:00,236 --> 00:19:02,500 and it's hard to be the vice president of your class, 408 00:19:02,571 --> 00:19:04,801 play on the soccer team, and do homework. 409 00:19:04,874 --> 00:19:10,335 It made me feel focused and almost better, 410 00:19:10,413 --> 00:19:14,247 because, "Look, I can keep up with everyone now. 411 00:19:14,316 --> 00:19:16,910 I come to school, and my homework's done." 412 00:19:16,986 --> 00:19:19,785 My senior year, I started doing it a little more, 413 00:19:19,855 --> 00:19:23,189 'cause it was easier to get; all of a sudden, my- 414 00:19:23,259 --> 00:19:24,351 I couldn't breathe as well, 415 00:19:24,427 --> 00:19:25,986 and it was hard to catch my breath, 416 00:19:26,062 --> 00:19:29,225 and I'd be trying to breathe, and it was scary. 417 00:19:29,298 --> 00:19:31,266 Like, I'd be sitting there trying to catch my breath. 418 00:19:31,334 --> 00:19:32,995 I couldn't fall asleep at night. 419 00:19:33,069 --> 00:19:37,233 - I've often wondered. I mean, why am I doing this? 420 00:19:37,306 --> 00:19:41,106 I'm doing this so I can go to college and get a job I like, 421 00:19:41,177 --> 00:19:44,772 ultimately so I can be happy, but if I'm not healthy, 422 00:19:44,847 --> 00:19:46,212 then none of that really matters. 423 00:19:46,282 --> 00:19:50,116 Why am I-it just doesn't really seem to add up. 424 00:19:50,186 --> 00:19:53,816 - We do have a sense that both depression and anxiety 425 00:19:53,889 --> 00:19:55,857 are rising among adolescents, 426 00:19:55,925 --> 00:19:58,951 and if we're seeing it in childhood, you know, 427 00:19:59,028 --> 00:20:00,963 if we're seeing the stomachaches and the headaches 428 00:20:01,031 --> 00:20:03,090 that clearly are related to stress in childhood, 429 00:20:03,166 --> 00:20:05,328 then what do you think they're seeing in adulthood? 430 00:20:05,402 --> 00:20:08,736 You know, this translates into the same stomachaches 431 00:20:08,805 --> 00:20:09,897 and the same chest pains, 432 00:20:09,973 --> 00:20:11,805 but it also translates into high blood pressure 433 00:20:11,875 --> 00:20:14,276 and heart disease, 434 00:20:14,344 --> 00:20:16,574 and all of the other manifestations of stress. 435 00:20:16,647 --> 00:20:20,311 - We do an awful lot of talking about kids who are stressed 436 00:20:20,384 --> 00:20:21,749 and are working too hard, 437 00:20:21,818 --> 00:20:25,311 but we sort of forget that there are just as many, if not more, 438 00:20:25,389 --> 00:20:29,485 kids who have taken a look at this crazy system and said, 439 00:20:29,559 --> 00:20:30,754 "I'm not interested in this." 440 00:20:30,827 --> 00:20:33,296 I think we lose boys in particular, 441 00:20:33,363 --> 00:20:38,597 because boys tend to act out, and we lose girls to depression. 442 00:20:42,906 --> 00:20:44,670 - Ever since middle school, basically, 443 00:20:44,741 --> 00:20:46,766 I've felt bad about school, 444 00:20:46,843 --> 00:20:50,074 because I don't like to disappoint people. 445 00:20:50,147 --> 00:20:52,616 You feel bad about yourself. You feel guilty. 446 00:20:52,683 --> 00:20:54,117 You stay up at night. 447 00:20:54,184 --> 00:20:57,119 I remember this all too clearly about not doing homework 448 00:20:57,187 --> 00:20:59,781 and coming home from school and being like, "I'm sorry, Mom. 449 00:20:59,856 --> 00:21:02,086 I didn't do homework," And I would cry. 450 00:21:02,159 --> 00:21:04,093 - I felt basically like a prison guard, 451 00:21:04,161 --> 00:21:06,220 that I had to constantly be asking, 452 00:21:06,296 --> 00:21:07,525 "Did you do your homework? 453 00:21:07,597 --> 00:21:09,224 Are you done with your homework?" 454 00:21:09,299 --> 00:21:11,233 I personally felt a lot of anxiety 455 00:21:11,301 --> 00:21:13,861 about what they were supposed to be doing. 456 00:21:13,937 --> 00:21:18,704 Sam had trouble with school, really, from the very beginning. 457 00:21:18,775 --> 00:21:20,368 He struggled through elementary school, 458 00:21:20,444 --> 00:21:23,436 and he also struggled through middle school. 459 00:21:23,513 --> 00:21:26,073 He always was at grade level or above, 460 00:21:26,149 --> 00:21:31,588 but I think the struggle was always just the homework. 461 00:21:31,655 --> 00:21:33,749 - Last year was gonna be my redemption year. 462 00:21:33,824 --> 00:21:35,485 I took a bunch of hard classes, and I was like, 463 00:21:35,559 --> 00:21:36,993 "I'm gonna pass all these classes." 464 00:21:37,060 --> 00:21:39,927 - And so we would have heart-to-hearts 465 00:21:39,997 --> 00:21:41,328 at the beginning of every year, 466 00:21:41,398 --> 00:21:42,888 at the beginning of every semester. 467 00:21:42,966 --> 00:21:44,297 "I'm gonna work harder this time. 468 00:21:44,368 --> 00:21:46,166 I'm gonna do it. I promise." 469 00:21:46,236 --> 00:21:48,534 - Halfway through the year, I was like, "This is ridiculous. 470 00:21:48,605 --> 00:21:51,233 Like, no student should be put through this much work," 471 00:21:51,308 --> 00:21:53,003 and I dropped some of the classes. 472 00:21:55,112 --> 00:21:57,080 Really, the only thing that kept me in high school 473 00:21:57,147 --> 00:21:59,707 was the sport wrestling, because I've been wrestling 474 00:21:59,783 --> 00:22:02,684 since my freshman year, and I just fell in love with it. 475 00:22:08,458 --> 00:22:09,892 Wrestling was a very intense sport. 476 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:12,452 Like, last year, l weighed 160, 477 00:22:12,530 --> 00:22:14,294 and I cut down to 145 pounds, 478 00:22:14,365 --> 00:22:16,834 but that means, every day, you're starving. 479 00:22:16,901 --> 00:22:19,029 Every day after practice, you don't get to drink. 480 00:22:19,103 --> 00:22:21,197 You stand on the scale, and you're looking at the number, 481 00:22:21,272 --> 00:22:22,603 and you're like, "Do I get to drink? 482 00:22:22,674 --> 00:22:24,301 Do I get to have a piece of lettuce tonight?" 483 00:22:24,375 --> 00:22:25,638 The school is like, 484 00:22:25,710 --> 00:22:28,111 "You're dedicating your whole life to your grades." 485 00:22:28,179 --> 00:22:29,408 And then the sport is like, 486 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:31,949 "No, you're dedicating your whole life to us." 487 00:22:32,016 --> 00:22:34,144 - I started to understand more and more 488 00:22:34,218 --> 00:22:36,516 what was actually going on with him and that, 489 00:22:36,587 --> 00:22:38,749 you know, it just wasn't physically possible 490 00:22:38,823 --> 00:22:40,052 for him to do the work. 491 00:22:40,124 --> 00:22:41,387 Not that he wasn't bright enough. 492 00:22:41,459 --> 00:22:42,949 It's just-that type of work, 493 00:22:43,027 --> 00:22:45,894 hours and hours of sitting still just wasn't gonna work for him. 494 00:22:45,963 --> 00:22:49,365 - I have school for seven hours. I get out of school at 3:10. 495 00:22:49,434 --> 00:22:53,462 I go to my sport until probably, generally around 7:00. 496 00:22:53,538 --> 00:22:56,508 I come home tired, wanting to go to sleep, 497 00:22:56,574 --> 00:22:58,235 and then I got to stay up till 12:00 or 1:00 498 00:22:58,309 --> 00:23:01,609 to finish all my homework and then wake up the next day 499 00:23:01,679 --> 00:23:03,545 and do it all over again. 500 00:23:03,614 --> 00:23:05,480 Yeah, eventually, school was so bad 501 00:23:05,550 --> 00:23:08,383 that the negatives outweighed the positives 502 00:23:08,453 --> 00:23:10,012 of being at the school just to wrestle, 503 00:23:10,088 --> 00:23:11,317 and I couldn't do it anymore, 504 00:23:11,389 --> 00:23:14,916 so I left that school, and I left the sports team. 505 00:23:17,662 --> 00:23:18,993 - When you have students 506 00:23:19,063 --> 00:23:22,089 that just have three hours of homework, 507 00:23:22,166 --> 00:23:25,898 four hours of homework after soccer practice or after work, 508 00:23:25,970 --> 00:23:28,337 and they're gonna have that every night, 509 00:23:28,406 --> 00:23:31,398 and they have weekend homework, and it's all- 510 00:23:31,476 --> 00:23:36,744 their whole future is on the line at that moment, 511 00:23:36,814 --> 00:23:39,647 it's no longer about learning. 512 00:23:39,717 --> 00:23:44,587 - Jamey has always been such a lighthearted, 513 00:23:44,655 --> 00:23:47,681 fun kid with a great sense of humor. 514 00:23:47,759 --> 00:23:51,593 She always loved school up until fifth grade. 515 00:23:51,662 --> 00:23:54,393 - The last time I was really excited to go to school 516 00:23:54,465 --> 00:23:56,957 and excited about learning was in fourth grade. 517 00:23:57,035 --> 00:23:59,231 When we got to middle school, 518 00:23:59,303 --> 00:24:02,466 I think expectations changed a lot. 519 00:24:02,540 --> 00:24:05,100 - In sixth grade, the workload increased. 520 00:24:05,176 --> 00:24:07,645 She would come home to hours of homework. 521 00:24:07,712 --> 00:24:11,615 I started noticing that she was really, you know, 522 00:24:11,683 --> 00:24:14,516 a duck trying to paddle as quickly as she could 523 00:24:14,585 --> 00:24:16,144 to keep her head above the water, 524 00:24:16,220 --> 00:24:19,850 and she wasn't having a really easy time. 525 00:24:19,924 --> 00:24:21,221 - It's ironic, 526 00:24:21,292 --> 00:24:23,351 and here's the thing that not everybody understands. 527 00:24:23,428 --> 00:24:25,693 The countries that outperform us, 528 00:24:25,764 --> 00:24:28,028 many of them, on the international tests, 529 00:24:28,100 --> 00:24:31,434 actually give less homework than we do here in the United States. 530 00:24:31,503 --> 00:24:36,270 There's almost no correlation between academic achievement 531 00:24:36,341 --> 00:24:38,742 in elementary school and homework. 532 00:24:38,811 --> 00:24:41,678 When you get to middle school, there's a slight correlation, 533 00:24:41,747 --> 00:24:43,772 but anything that you're doing after an hour, 534 00:24:43,849 --> 00:24:46,011 pretty much, that correlation fades. 535 00:24:46,085 --> 00:24:47,416 And in high school, there is a link, 536 00:24:47,486 --> 00:24:50,148 but really, we see a fallout after two hours. 537 00:24:50,222 --> 00:24:52,384 So you have to look at the options of homework and say, 538 00:24:52,458 --> 00:24:54,119 "What is developmentally appropriate? 539 00:24:54,193 --> 00:24:55,217 "What can these kids handle? 540 00:24:55,294 --> 00:24:56,693 "And what is the purpose of homework? 541 00:24:56,762 --> 00:24:58,526 Why are we doing it in the first place?" 542 00:24:58,597 --> 00:25:00,725 We have parents who do their homework for their kids. 543 00:25:00,799 --> 00:25:02,665 We have parents who edit their kids' homework. 544 00:25:02,735 --> 00:25:04,601 We have parents who correct their kids' homework. 545 00:25:04,670 --> 00:25:07,401 If the teacher is using homework as a gauge for understanding, 546 00:25:07,473 --> 00:25:08,872 that's not gonna work. 547 00:25:08,941 --> 00:25:10,409 - I know you had a Japan quiz, 548 00:25:10,476 --> 00:25:14,344 'cause you made me quiz you last night, so we know that's- 549 00:25:14,413 --> 00:25:18,748 a large part of our time every evening is trying to manage 550 00:25:18,817 --> 00:25:21,445 all three kids getting their homework done. 551 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:22,851 That's the question every night. 552 00:25:24,390 --> 00:25:27,416 - So you do-finish this one and do your math page, 553 00:25:27,493 --> 00:25:28,756 and then that'll leave you- 554 00:25:28,827 --> 00:25:29,919 - And last night, you know, 555 00:25:29,995 --> 00:25:31,724 my wife had to leave for a couple hours, 556 00:25:31,797 --> 00:25:34,858 and my youngest was supposed to be doing homework, 557 00:25:34,933 --> 00:25:38,597 and I wasn't quite aware of it, and so when she came home, 558 00:25:38,670 --> 00:25:41,731 she asked him if he had done his homework, and he hadn't, 559 00:25:41,807 --> 00:25:43,673 and so immediately, I mean, 560 00:25:43,742 --> 00:25:45,369 the minute she walked in the door, 561 00:25:45,444 --> 00:25:47,708 we were having to discuss 562 00:25:47,780 --> 00:25:49,748 whether he did his homework or not. 563 00:25:49,815 --> 00:25:51,283 You know, I get pulled into it. 564 00:25:51,350 --> 00:25:54,752 I should have been aware and maybe applying the pressure 565 00:25:54,820 --> 00:25:56,652 for him to have done it and done it well, 566 00:25:56,722 --> 00:26:00,056 and we ended the evening with some turmoil about- 567 00:26:00,125 --> 00:26:01,559 surrounding homework. 568 00:26:01,627 --> 00:26:05,154 - This is what you do is, you have a mock one that you- 569 00:26:05,230 --> 00:26:09,667 - At what point did it become okay for schools to dictate 570 00:26:09,735 --> 00:26:13,763 how students live their lives once the bell rings? 571 00:26:13,839 --> 00:26:15,807 Because that's sort of a private time. 572 00:26:15,874 --> 00:26:17,171 That's family time. 573 00:26:17,242 --> 00:26:19,438 There's some weird, interesting, 574 00:26:19,511 --> 00:26:22,674 like, molecular communication here. 575 00:26:22,748 --> 00:26:25,445 When I first started teaching AP biology, 576 00:26:25,517 --> 00:26:29,954 the first thing I did was, I cut the homework load in half, 577 00:26:30,022 --> 00:26:32,081 and what happened to the AP scores? 578 00:26:32,157 --> 00:26:33,090 They went up. 579 00:26:33,158 --> 00:26:35,183 Now, that's very telling. 580 00:26:35,260 --> 00:26:37,991 When you cut homework in half and AP scores improve, 581 00:26:38,063 --> 00:26:40,362 what's the value of the homework? 582 00:26:40,433 --> 00:26:42,959 - So there's a couple of things that drive homework 583 00:26:43,036 --> 00:26:44,333 at different grade levels. 584 00:26:44,404 --> 00:26:47,066 There are the standards, and literally, 585 00:26:47,140 --> 00:26:50,132 there is so much content to teach that the teachers feel 586 00:26:50,210 --> 00:26:52,110 that they have to then load up the homework 587 00:26:52,178 --> 00:26:53,646 to try and get that content across. 588 00:26:53,713 --> 00:26:55,238 Parents expect homework. 589 00:26:55,315 --> 00:26:57,909 It's going to seem like you're not doing your job as a teacher 590 00:26:57,984 --> 00:27:00,282 if you say, "No homework today." 591 00:27:00,353 --> 00:27:02,321 Parents need to educate themselves 592 00:27:02,389 --> 00:27:04,824 about the fact that homework 593 00:27:04,891 --> 00:27:07,986 is not going to make their kids any smarter. 594 00:27:09,396 --> 00:27:11,763 The schools have our kids for seven hours a day. 595 00:27:11,831 --> 00:27:14,766 That should be plenty for them to impart the kind of knowledge 596 00:27:14,834 --> 00:27:15,767 that they want to do, 597 00:27:15,835 --> 00:27:17,166 and then the kids should go home, 598 00:27:17,237 --> 00:27:20,798 and there's so much more to a child's life 599 00:27:20,874 --> 00:27:23,275 than just what's going on in school. 600 00:27:26,246 --> 00:27:28,738 There was kind of a real lull period in homework 601 00:27:28,815 --> 00:27:32,251 that went from the 1900s almost up to the 1950s, 602 00:27:32,318 --> 00:27:36,255 and at the same time, the labor laws were changing. 603 00:27:36,323 --> 00:27:39,315 Those two things went together very nicely, 604 00:27:39,392 --> 00:27:43,056 and kids started to have more of a childhood. 605 00:27:43,129 --> 00:27:45,860 And then there was Sputnik, and all of a sudden, 606 00:27:45,932 --> 00:27:50,028 we were falling behind in the space race. 607 00:27:50,103 --> 00:27:53,232 And then it kind of faded out again, which makes sense, 608 00:27:53,306 --> 00:27:55,400 because when you think about what this country was like 609 00:27:55,475 --> 00:27:57,500 in the late '60s and early '70s, 610 00:27:57,577 --> 00:28:01,013 it was much more of a free-thinking time 611 00:28:01,081 --> 00:28:03,709 and a big change of social ideas. 612 00:28:03,783 --> 00:28:07,515 The upswing in homework has been going on since about 1983 613 00:28:07,587 --> 00:28:10,682 with A Nation at Risk, but I think the level got upped 614 00:28:10,757 --> 00:28:15,991 after the passage in 2002 of No Child Left Behind. 615 00:28:16,062 --> 00:28:18,429 - So the principle behind the No Child Left Behind Act 616 00:28:18,498 --> 00:28:21,297 is to set high standards, believe every child can learn, 617 00:28:21,368 --> 00:28:23,462 and measure to see if we're getting results. 618 00:28:29,576 --> 00:28:31,635 - This overwhelming feeling came down 619 00:28:31,711 --> 00:28:34,180 from the federal government, from the state saying, 620 00:28:34,247 --> 00:28:36,773 "No, no, no, we need to push our kids academically, 621 00:28:36,850 --> 00:28:38,841 because we're not competing with other countries." 622 00:28:38,918 --> 00:28:40,545 So all of a sudden, they're being forced 623 00:28:40,620 --> 00:28:43,612 into this one mold that we never, ever had had. 624 00:28:43,690 --> 00:28:48,025 - Our students don't do well compared to many other nations, 625 00:28:48,094 --> 00:28:49,823 particularly in science and math, 626 00:28:49,896 --> 00:28:52,366 primarily because the way we teach science and math 627 00:28:52,433 --> 00:28:54,765 is to prepare for the test. 628 00:28:54,835 --> 00:28:58,100 - When American students encounter questions 629 00:28:58,172 --> 00:29:00,607 that are not just like what they've seen in their class, 630 00:29:00,675 --> 00:29:05,010 they fall apart, partly because the strategy for teaching math 631 00:29:05,079 --> 00:29:08,105 in the United States tends to be more formulaic. 632 00:29:08,182 --> 00:29:12,517 - So Wilson's 14 Points offered these groups 633 00:29:12,586 --> 00:29:15,078 the premise of self-determination. 634 00:29:15,156 --> 00:29:16,590 When you did the review sheet, 635 00:29:16,657 --> 00:29:17,988 this is something that was on there 636 00:29:18,059 --> 00:29:19,049 that I just gave the answer, 637 00:29:19,126 --> 00:29:20,787 but this is gonna be on your test, 638 00:29:20,861 --> 00:29:22,158 so you should know about it. 639 00:29:22,229 --> 00:29:25,563 - No Child Left Behind, what we know is, 640 00:29:25,633 --> 00:29:27,294 the measures don't necessarily measure 641 00:29:27,368 --> 00:29:28,699 what they're supposed to measure. 642 00:29:28,769 --> 00:29:33,366 It becomes literally just drowning in content, 643 00:29:33,441 --> 00:29:35,842 and the teachers are cutting out things that they know 644 00:29:35,910 --> 00:29:38,402 to be very developmentally appropriate or very successful, 645 00:29:38,479 --> 00:29:39,605 like project-based learning. 646 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:40,977 Wonderful projects, 647 00:29:41,048 --> 00:29:43,380 we no longer teach them, because they're not on the test, 648 00:29:43,451 --> 00:29:46,216 and everything becomes about the tests. 649 00:29:46,287 --> 00:29:50,246 - We're told, "Either you do it, or you don't have a job," 650 00:29:50,324 --> 00:29:54,591 And we've just kind of gone with the flow, because our job, 651 00:29:54,662 --> 00:29:57,563 our bonus money was based on our test scores. 652 00:29:57,631 --> 00:30:01,033 If your kids did well, you got bonus money from the state. 653 00:30:01,102 --> 00:30:03,070 Well, you know, everybody pushes, 654 00:30:03,137 --> 00:30:04,502 because it means a bonus check. 655 00:30:14,482 --> 00:30:16,883 - One of the craziest things about No Child Left Behind is, 656 00:30:16,951 --> 00:30:19,443 like, so your school's doing a bad job, 657 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,181 so we're gonna give you less funding 658 00:30:21,255 --> 00:30:23,155 and less time and less support. 659 00:30:23,224 --> 00:30:26,387 So these fairies are arguing, and all of a sudden, 660 00:30:26,460 --> 00:30:29,293 winter's turning into spring, and spring's turning hotter, 661 00:30:29,363 --> 00:30:32,594 and so what does that tell us about those two? 662 00:30:32,667 --> 00:30:34,635 Ah, they're sort of powerful, right? 663 00:30:34,702 --> 00:30:36,602 These fairies have some power. 664 00:30:36,671 --> 00:30:39,971 I grew up in the Bay Area. My dad was born and raised here. 665 00:30:40,041 --> 00:30:44,239 So I feel very tied to Oakland. I always knew I wanted to teach. 666 00:30:44,312 --> 00:30:47,338 I went to graduate school. I found a program at UC Berkley. 667 00:30:47,415 --> 00:30:49,816 You get your masters and credential at the same time 668 00:30:49,884 --> 00:30:52,478 in two years, so l joined that program. 669 00:30:52,553 --> 00:30:54,043 This was the school that hired me. 670 00:30:54,121 --> 00:30:56,852 I just really dove right in and loved it. 671 00:30:56,924 --> 00:30:59,018 I wanted to teach social justice, 672 00:30:59,093 --> 00:31:01,619 and I wanted to really change the system 673 00:31:01,696 --> 00:31:03,391 and change these kids' lives 674 00:31:03,464 --> 00:31:06,730 and get them to see learning as a lifetime skill 675 00:31:06,802 --> 00:31:10,363 that's important for them to move out of their 676 00:31:10,439 --> 00:31:12,737 sort of socioeconomic strata, 677 00:31:12,808 --> 00:31:15,368 and it's really hard to do in education today. 678 00:31:15,444 --> 00:31:18,903 I mean, I pretty much was, you know, fighting 679 00:31:18,980 --> 00:31:20,505 and was working hard and was feeling like 680 00:31:20,582 --> 00:31:23,608 I was making a difference, but it's gotten harder 681 00:31:23,685 --> 00:31:26,916 and harder to feel like I can teach the things 682 00:31:26,988 --> 00:31:33,155 I believe in versus be a yes-man and sort of do what all the- 683 00:31:33,228 --> 00:31:34,855 what the district and the state- 684 00:31:34,930 --> 00:31:38,093 and, you know, federally, all the pressure's on us. 685 00:31:38,166 --> 00:31:40,191 Demetrius ditches Helena in the forest, 686 00:31:40,268 --> 00:31:41,963 where she finds Lysander. 687 00:31:42,037 --> 00:31:44,734 The standards very much go along with the testing 688 00:31:44,806 --> 00:31:47,468 and this whole idea that, you know, there's certain things 689 00:31:47,542 --> 00:31:49,101 that kids need to know. 690 00:31:49,177 --> 00:31:51,168 I believe that one of the main things 691 00:31:51,246 --> 00:31:53,112 we are doing in schools is socializing, 692 00:31:53,181 --> 00:31:56,344 and the jobs don't necessarily need you to know 693 00:31:56,418 --> 00:31:57,715 how to use a semicolon. 694 00:31:57,786 --> 00:31:59,845 They need you to be a critical thinker. 695 00:31:59,921 --> 00:32:01,389 They need you to be a problem solver. 696 00:32:01,456 --> 00:32:03,117 They need you to be-you know, 697 00:32:03,191 --> 00:32:05,592 be able to work in groups with other people. 698 00:32:05,661 --> 00:32:07,959 So things that actually get our students to think 699 00:32:08,030 --> 00:32:11,967 and work together and care are pushed aside. 700 00:32:12,033 --> 00:32:15,901 What's happened more and more with No Child Left Behind 701 00:32:15,971 --> 00:32:19,134 and the testing craze is, instead of, you know, 702 00:32:19,207 --> 00:32:20,436 professional developments 703 00:32:20,509 --> 00:32:22,705 or making teachers more accountable 704 00:32:22,778 --> 00:32:24,803 or working on getting rid of the teachers 705 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:26,712 who don't actually do any teaching, 706 00:32:26,782 --> 00:32:29,183 they decided that they need to give more tests. 707 00:32:29,251 --> 00:32:32,016 These tests that they do horribly on, 708 00:32:32,087 --> 00:32:34,385 it's not related to my curriculum. 709 00:32:34,456 --> 00:32:36,151 You're testing them on their culture, 710 00:32:36,224 --> 00:32:37,749 and they are from a different culture 711 00:32:37,826 --> 00:32:41,763 than this testing culture. 712 00:32:41,830 --> 00:32:45,596 - CAHSEE is basically a test that determines whether or not 713 00:32:45,667 --> 00:32:47,135 you will get a diploma for high school, 714 00:32:47,202 --> 00:32:50,137 and I feel like I have set many goals for myself, 715 00:32:50,205 --> 00:32:51,604 which is to graduate from high school 716 00:32:51,673 --> 00:32:53,505 and go through college and become a lawyer. 717 00:32:53,575 --> 00:32:55,009 I'm really thinking about Harvard. 718 00:32:55,077 --> 00:32:56,511 I'm really trying. 719 00:32:56,578 --> 00:33:00,742 I've been getting 4.0s for three marking periods already, 720 00:33:00,816 --> 00:33:02,250 and so hopefully I can keep that up, 721 00:33:02,317 --> 00:33:04,877 but when I heard about this CAHSEE test, 722 00:33:04,953 --> 00:33:06,944 I became really nervous, 723 00:33:07,022 --> 00:33:10,925 because I felt like this CAHSEE might, you know, end my dreams. 724 00:33:12,294 --> 00:33:14,456 - My philosophy was, you know, 725 00:33:14,529 --> 00:33:16,224 to get these kids to love learning, 726 00:33:16,298 --> 00:33:19,826 to get them to see learning as power, you know? 727 00:33:19,902 --> 00:33:20,960 Learning as power. 728 00:33:21,037 --> 00:33:22,835 Like, if you want to have power in your life 729 00:33:22,905 --> 00:33:26,569 to do whatever you want to do, you have to be a learner. 730 00:33:26,643 --> 00:33:28,737 You have to read the paper. You have to care. 731 00:33:28,811 --> 00:33:31,542 From day one, it was very clear 732 00:33:31,614 --> 00:33:35,016 that that is not what the district wants me to do. 733 00:33:35,084 --> 00:33:37,553 If you aren't teaching things that you love, 734 00:33:37,620 --> 00:33:39,418 you cannot do this job. 735 00:33:39,489 --> 00:33:41,082 - Wake up. 736 00:33:41,157 --> 00:33:42,215 - So what's gonna happen now? 737 00:33:42,291 --> 00:33:43,656 - He's gonna fall in love with her. 738 00:33:43,726 --> 00:33:47,788 - Oh, okay, Lysander. Wake up lovingly. 739 00:33:47,864 --> 00:33:50,765 I realize that my educational philosophy 740 00:33:50,833 --> 00:33:54,030 and what I believe is just and efficacious. 741 00:33:54,103 --> 00:33:57,368 I couldn't reconcile that with all the inefficiencies 742 00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,932 and what the district believes I should be doing. 743 00:34:00,009 --> 00:34:01,738 I just couldn't make that balance 744 00:34:01,811 --> 00:34:05,543 and felt like the fight of that is just killing me. 745 00:34:05,615 --> 00:34:06,946 It's sucking the life out of me. 746 00:34:07,016 --> 00:34:08,984 I ended up resigning, 747 00:34:09,051 --> 00:34:11,486 but it's been the hardest decision of my life. 748 00:34:11,554 --> 00:34:12,715 I've always been a teacher. 749 00:34:12,789 --> 00:34:14,621 I've always wanted to be in East Oakland, 750 00:34:14,691 --> 00:34:16,056 and I love these kids. 751 00:34:16,125 --> 00:34:17,786 I mean, one of the things that I never knew 752 00:34:17,860 --> 00:34:19,794 about teaching was, I'm a mother. 753 00:34:19,862 --> 00:34:21,091 I'm a friend. 754 00:34:21,164 --> 00:34:23,929 I'm a mentor, and I don't want to leave them, 755 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:27,026 and, I mean, I see these kids more than their parents 756 00:34:27,103 --> 00:34:29,367 half the time, because I'm with them every day, 757 00:34:29,439 --> 00:34:30,964 and because I'm an English teacher, 758 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:32,838 they do all this writing for me, 759 00:34:32,909 --> 00:34:34,308 and so I learn about their lives 760 00:34:34,377 --> 00:34:36,971 and their fears and their beliefs, 761 00:34:37,046 --> 00:34:39,913 and I don't want them to feel like I've just given up on them. 762 00:34:43,319 --> 00:34:45,845 - Clearly, the first thing we need to improve education 763 00:34:45,922 --> 00:34:47,686 in urban schools, 764 00:34:47,757 --> 00:34:49,851 in schools that are serving students 765 00:34:49,926 --> 00:34:51,325 who are economically disadvantaged 766 00:34:51,394 --> 00:34:54,193 is greater equity, because right now, 767 00:34:54,263 --> 00:34:55,890 students in more affluent communities 768 00:34:55,965 --> 00:34:58,332 are going to schools that have more resources 769 00:34:58,401 --> 00:35:01,803 than students who are in low-income communities. 770 00:35:01,871 --> 00:35:05,239 It doesn't make sense to me that we don't invest up front 771 00:35:05,308 --> 00:35:08,903 and then are willing to pay the costs through prisons, 772 00:35:08,978 --> 00:35:13,211 welfare, health costs, and all the other ways 773 00:35:13,283 --> 00:35:16,275 in which individuals suffer and society suffers 774 00:35:16,352 --> 00:35:17,945 when we don't invest up front, 775 00:35:18,021 --> 00:35:22,117 but I don't think the problem is really just with kids 776 00:35:22,191 --> 00:35:23,488 in low-income schools. 777 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:25,688 I think the United States really needs to rethink 778 00:35:25,762 --> 00:35:29,528 how we do schooling and how much we want to invest 779 00:35:29,599 --> 00:35:31,500 in our next generation. 780 00:35:31,569 --> 00:35:34,231 One of the things we know from research is, 781 00:35:34,305 --> 00:35:36,933 it's the quality of the teaching that matters most. 782 00:35:37,007 --> 00:35:39,101 I think countries that understand that 783 00:35:39,176 --> 00:35:41,440 and have invested in quality teaching 784 00:35:41,512 --> 00:35:43,571 are the ones that are killing us 785 00:35:43,647 --> 00:35:46,173 on these international comparisons. 786 00:35:46,250 --> 00:35:48,844 In Singapore, just as an example, 787 00:35:48,919 --> 00:35:54,255 the government selects the top 20% of their high school class 788 00:35:54,324 --> 00:35:57,988 and offers them a full ride, basically, 789 00:35:58,062 --> 00:36:01,657 and a stipend to be trained to be a teacher. 790 00:36:01,732 --> 00:36:05,191 It's very high-status, and there's no opportunity cost, 791 00:36:05,269 --> 00:36:08,967 whereas in the United States, you have to go a fifth year, 792 00:36:09,039 --> 00:36:10,336 and you have to pay tuition, 793 00:36:10,407 --> 00:36:13,900 and you forgo a year of being able to work, 794 00:36:13,977 --> 00:36:16,173 so the financial cost is quite great, 795 00:36:16,246 --> 00:36:19,375 yet the financial reward is very small. 796 00:36:19,483 --> 00:36:25,889 - Okay, so imagine you've got a long sequence of numbers. 797 00:36:25,956 --> 00:36:28,118 Being a math teacher is something I always wanted to do. 798 00:36:28,192 --> 00:36:29,626 I got close to adulthood and said, 799 00:36:29,693 --> 00:36:32,253 "Wow, my life is really gonna be hard if I choose to do this." 800 00:36:32,329 --> 00:36:33,558 How is that possible? 801 00:36:33,630 --> 00:36:36,292 And you can only do it for the love of it for so long. 802 00:36:36,367 --> 00:36:38,392 You can only fight the good fight for so long 803 00:36:38,469 --> 00:36:41,234 if you feel that you don't have any reinforcements behind you, 804 00:36:41,305 --> 00:36:44,138 that culturally, that financially, societally, 805 00:36:44,208 --> 00:36:48,338 the fact that we don't have as great respect for our teachers 806 00:36:48,412 --> 00:36:51,473 as we do for some other professions means, 807 00:36:51,549 --> 00:36:53,381 well, why should I go on doing this thing 808 00:36:53,450 --> 00:36:55,248 if it's clearly not very valued? 809 00:36:55,319 --> 00:36:56,718 I do love this thing. 810 00:36:56,787 --> 00:36:59,119 I do want to do this thing, but I'm gonna have to find a way 811 00:36:59,189 --> 00:37:00,350 to do it on my own terms, 812 00:37:00,424 --> 00:37:02,859 because the most popular way to do it is a way 813 00:37:02,927 --> 00:37:04,656 that's gonna burn me out inside of five years, 814 00:37:04,728 --> 00:37:06,287 like it does for most teachers, 815 00:37:06,363 --> 00:37:08,491 so I became a private tutor. 816 00:37:21,111 --> 00:37:23,705 - The tutoring industry is a multimillion-dollar industry, 817 00:37:23,781 --> 00:37:26,113 and when I say tutoring, I mean individual private tutors, 818 00:37:26,183 --> 00:37:28,015 but also the enrichment programs 819 00:37:28,085 --> 00:37:30,520 like Kumon and Sylvan and the learning centers, 820 00:37:30,588 --> 00:37:32,249 and sometimes this starts really young, 821 00:37:32,323 --> 00:37:34,758 like with Brilliant Babies, 822 00:37:34,825 --> 00:37:37,590 and the problem is this, what you're sending the message 823 00:37:37,661 --> 00:37:39,629 to the kid is, "You cannot do this alone. 824 00:37:39,697 --> 00:37:41,495 We need to help you." 825 00:37:41,565 --> 00:37:43,329 - So what unit is this first mark? 826 00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:44,732 - One. 827 00:37:44,803 --> 00:37:46,828 - Good, and what's the value of the second one? 828 00:37:46,905 --> 00:37:49,272 - The reason that kids are seeking tutors 829 00:37:49,341 --> 00:37:52,743 is because we are teaching the majority of our kids 830 00:37:52,811 --> 00:37:54,836 as if they were in the top 2%. 831 00:37:54,913 --> 00:37:56,711 You'll see that at every level. 832 00:37:56,781 --> 00:38:00,775 Everything has been pushed down, and we're really putting kids 833 00:38:00,852 --> 00:38:04,413 under a great deal of pressure to be there. 834 00:38:04,489 --> 00:38:06,685 When the kids feel like they're under pressure, 835 00:38:06,758 --> 00:38:08,749 the parents are even worse. 836 00:38:08,827 --> 00:38:10,522 They feel a huge amount of stress. 837 00:38:10,595 --> 00:38:11,994 "Is my child where they should be? 838 00:38:12,063 --> 00:38:15,294 What's everybody else doing?" There's a huge worry. 839 00:38:18,436 --> 00:38:21,133 - Zakary started feeling at the beginning of fourth grade 840 00:38:21,206 --> 00:38:23,675 like he was disappointing his teachers, 841 00:38:23,742 --> 00:38:27,736 like he wasn't measuring up to what they were expecting of him. 842 00:38:41,259 --> 00:38:44,854 - He started developing headaches and stomachaches. 843 00:38:44,930 --> 00:38:46,625 There were nights that he came home this year 844 00:38:46,698 --> 00:38:49,497 with math homework that I could not help him with. 845 00:38:49,567 --> 00:38:52,730 It was clear that he was getting really frustrated. 846 00:38:52,804 --> 00:38:55,899 It was suggested that he start working with a tutor, 847 00:38:55,974 --> 00:38:59,103 but he spends seven hours a day at school, 848 00:38:59,177 --> 00:39:01,908 and then we're asking him to do more sitting at a desk 849 00:39:01,980 --> 00:39:03,448 after school with a tutor 850 00:39:03,515 --> 00:39:06,815 and then to come home to another hour or two of homework. 851 00:39:06,885 --> 00:39:08,478 That's not how I want to see 852 00:39:08,553 --> 00:39:11,716 Zakary spending his young years, 853 00:39:11,790 --> 00:39:14,020 but I didn't want Zakary, in fourth grade, 854 00:39:14,092 --> 00:39:16,459 to convince himself that he wasn't good at math, 855 00:39:16,528 --> 00:39:20,192 and my worry for him is that, if, at age ten, 856 00:39:20,265 --> 00:39:23,929 he's already convinced himself that he's not good at anything, 857 00:39:24,002 --> 00:39:27,632 how is he going to get back to a place where he's excited 858 00:39:27,706 --> 00:39:30,300 about learning and where he feels confident 859 00:39:30,375 --> 00:39:33,140 in his abilities? 860 00:39:33,211 --> 00:39:35,578 - So you multiply by three, so what's it gonna be? 861 00:39:35,647 --> 00:39:37,513 How many groups of three? 862 00:39:37,582 --> 00:39:39,311 - Mmm... 863 00:39:39,384 --> 00:39:41,352 I'm not sure yet. 864 00:39:41,419 --> 00:39:44,411 - My worry is he'll rebel and he'll check out, 865 00:39:44,489 --> 00:39:47,288 as so many of the boys that I've met have done. 866 00:39:49,995 --> 00:39:52,965 - When I want to school, a very small number of kids 867 00:39:53,031 --> 00:39:55,261 were expected to be really super smart, 868 00:39:55,333 --> 00:39:58,326 and they went on to great colleges. 869 00:39:58,404 --> 00:40:00,463 Now every kid is expected to be that way. 870 00:40:00,540 --> 00:40:01,939 That's just not the way it works. 871 00:40:02,008 --> 00:40:06,036 There's a bell curve, and smart has many different meanings, 872 00:40:06,112 --> 00:40:08,638 so there's academically smart, 873 00:40:08,714 --> 00:40:10,876 there's kids who are incredibly creative. 874 00:40:10,950 --> 00:40:13,942 There are kids who are totally hands-on kinds of kids, 875 00:40:14,020 --> 00:40:17,650 and we're ignoring this great group of kids 876 00:40:17,723 --> 00:40:20,658 because we're so focused on this narrow group 877 00:40:20,726 --> 00:40:22,160 of highly achieving kids, 878 00:40:22,228 --> 00:40:23,923 and we're trying to turn them all into that. 879 00:40:23,996 --> 00:40:27,022 - We know it's absolutely developmentally appropriate 880 00:40:27,099 --> 00:40:29,591 for some kids not to be proficient readers 881 00:40:29,669 --> 00:40:32,730 until the end of first grade, beginning of second grade, 882 00:40:32,805 --> 00:40:36,400 but we have schools now who are told they must have kids 883 00:40:36,475 --> 00:40:39,103 proficient in reading by the end of kindergarten 884 00:40:39,178 --> 00:40:41,909 or they go to a mandatory literacy camp. 885 00:40:41,981 --> 00:40:43,312 You can send them to literacy camp, 886 00:40:43,382 --> 00:40:45,612 and they can get completely turned off to reading 887 00:40:45,685 --> 00:40:48,814 because they are literally not ready. 888 00:40:48,888 --> 00:40:50,287 - Even younger, you know. 889 00:40:50,356 --> 00:40:53,348 When you're doing flash cards with your six-month-old... 890 00:40:53,426 --> 00:40:54,860 - Good job. 891 00:40:54,927 --> 00:40:56,395 - Your six-month-old is supposed to be 892 00:40:56,462 --> 00:40:59,488 sucking on his toes and thumbs, and there's reasons for that. 893 00:40:59,565 --> 00:41:03,661 It's not just mindless work. It's learning about their body. 894 00:41:03,736 --> 00:41:06,671 All along the way, we're missing the developmental tasks 895 00:41:06,739 --> 00:41:10,937 with this tremendous preoccupation with performance. 896 00:41:11,043 --> 00:41:15,139 - This issue of perform and produce, perform, produce, 897 00:41:15,214 --> 00:41:17,740 produce, produce, produce, perform, 898 00:41:17,817 --> 00:41:22,311 produce leaves out processing. 899 00:41:32,331 --> 00:41:34,663 - Because of how much pressure and how much stress 900 00:41:34,734 --> 00:41:36,668 is put on getting that A 901 00:41:36,736 --> 00:41:39,364 so that you can get into an Ivy League school, 902 00:41:39,438 --> 00:41:41,270 people don't know how to deal with that besides, 903 00:41:41,340 --> 00:41:42,398 like, cheating. 904 00:41:42,475 --> 00:41:43,909 That's what they have to result to, 905 00:41:43,976 --> 00:41:46,308 because you're getting, like, five hours of homework a night, 906 00:41:46,379 --> 00:41:47,744 and you just can't- you can't do it. 907 00:41:47,813 --> 00:41:50,714 - We have a study where there's eight different ways 908 00:41:50,783 --> 00:41:52,512 to cheat on our study. 909 00:41:52,585 --> 00:41:54,417 Copying homework is one of them, 910 00:41:54,487 --> 00:41:57,650 cheating off of a test, plagiarism, et cetera. 911 00:41:57,723 --> 00:42:02,024 In our study, less than 3% of the 5,000 students 912 00:42:02,094 --> 00:42:04,392 have never cheated. 913 00:42:04,463 --> 00:42:07,023 - Cheating has become another course. 914 00:42:07,099 --> 00:42:10,262 You learn how to do it from 9th to 12th grade, 915 00:42:10,336 --> 00:42:13,204 and it continues, and you get better at it. 916 00:42:13,273 --> 00:42:16,675 - I ended up getting a B in a class, and then I cheated, 917 00:42:16,743 --> 00:42:19,872 and it really ended up backfiring on me, 918 00:42:19,947 --> 00:42:24,316 but a lot of people- and I learned my lesson, 919 00:42:24,384 --> 00:42:27,149 because I was caught and et cetera, 920 00:42:27,221 --> 00:42:30,452 but a lot of people in this school aren't caught, 921 00:42:30,524 --> 00:42:33,858 and there is a very high level of cheating going on. 922 00:42:33,927 --> 00:42:35,725 - Kids cheat for a lot of reasons. 923 00:42:35,796 --> 00:42:37,992 Most of the time, it's because they have too much work to do 924 00:42:38,065 --> 00:42:39,464 and too little time to do it, 925 00:42:39,533 --> 00:42:41,331 or the pressure on them is so great, 926 00:42:41,401 --> 00:42:44,200 they feel like they need to get the grade by hook or by crook, 927 00:42:44,271 --> 00:42:45,670 but we also have kids who are cheating 928 00:42:45,739 --> 00:42:47,730 because they think the teacher doesn't care. 929 00:42:47,808 --> 00:42:48,866 "It's busy work. 930 00:42:48,942 --> 00:42:50,706 Why can't I just copy my homework?" 931 00:42:50,777 --> 00:42:52,802 - How are you expected to learn? 932 00:42:52,879 --> 00:42:54,643 Like, how do you expect us to do well 933 00:42:54,715 --> 00:42:56,183 when you can't even make mistakes? 934 00:42:56,250 --> 00:42:58,617 And it just motivates you to cheat more. 935 00:42:58,685 --> 00:43:00,153 - We're producing children who, 936 00:43:00,220 --> 00:43:02,552 all they know how to do is cut corners and cheat. 937 00:43:02,623 --> 00:43:04,819 I mean, look around at the business world 938 00:43:04,891 --> 00:43:06,791 and what we've done, okay, 939 00:43:06,860 --> 00:43:09,352 because we were cutting corners and we were cheating, 940 00:43:09,429 --> 00:43:11,557 and we're gonna pay the price for it. 941 00:43:11,632 --> 00:43:12,724 We are paying the price for it, 942 00:43:12,799 --> 00:43:14,460 financially, right now in the country. 943 00:43:14,568 --> 00:43:18,664 - The point of education is to learn, not to memorize. 944 00:43:18,739 --> 00:43:22,175 That's when you have to resort to cheating or stressing, 945 00:43:22,242 --> 00:43:26,475 you know, your sleep and sacrificing your love to eat. 946 00:43:26,546 --> 00:43:29,413 You're just molding yourself and buying into the thought 947 00:43:29,483 --> 00:43:31,474 of being a better worker, 948 00:43:31,551 --> 00:43:35,044 that I'm teaching myself to be able to live without sleep, 949 00:43:35,122 --> 00:43:36,385 to be able to live without eating, 950 00:43:36,456 --> 00:43:41,951 to be able to live with some bald guy yelling at me 951 00:43:42,029 --> 00:43:43,963 to do his work. 952 00:43:48,468 --> 00:43:51,165 I've got this message where because I'm black 953 00:43:51,238 --> 00:43:55,197 and because I'm living under the poverty line, 954 00:43:55,275 --> 00:43:58,210 you know, there's so much expected of me to excel 955 00:43:58,278 --> 00:44:02,272 and try to be more mobile in terms of status in society, 956 00:44:02,349 --> 00:44:06,047 you know, and that too much is riding on my grades, you know? 957 00:44:06,119 --> 00:44:09,714 That outside of sports, education's the only way I can, 958 00:44:09,790 --> 00:44:12,760 you know, earn money, and, you know, live a happy, 959 00:44:12,826 --> 00:44:15,761 you know, American life. 960 00:44:15,829 --> 00:44:19,390 Yeah, there goes me being funny again. 961 00:44:19,466 --> 00:44:22,299 This is my older brother Justin, my older sister Courtney, 962 00:44:22,369 --> 00:44:23,598 and my little sister Ashley. 963 00:44:23,670 --> 00:44:25,765 There's me, my second oldest brother Cameron, 964 00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:27,433 who's actually in the military right now. 965 00:44:27,508 --> 00:44:31,706 I think he's serving a tour in Iraq, and my mother. 966 00:44:31,779 --> 00:44:35,079 Middle school, I was, like, 967 00:44:35,149 --> 00:44:37,516 the dude to go to if you needed help with your math work. 968 00:44:37,585 --> 00:44:41,021 Like, I was a 4.0 student. 969 00:44:41,089 --> 00:44:43,854 But now that you come to high school, 970 00:44:43,925 --> 00:44:46,724 it's been really hard in high school. 971 00:44:46,794 --> 00:44:48,853 It's been really hard. 972 00:44:48,930 --> 00:44:52,525 My counselor said, "if you want to be competitive, 973 00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:55,365 "you know, if you want colleges to look at you, you know, 974 00:44:55,436 --> 00:44:58,337 taking the AP classes is a big thing on your transcript," 975 00:44:58,406 --> 00:45:01,376 and the transcript is almost as if it's a resume for us. 976 00:45:01,442 --> 00:45:04,503 You know, going to college is like a job. 977 00:45:04,579 --> 00:45:07,048 The harder my classes are, 978 00:45:07,115 --> 00:45:10,107 not only does it mean the more looks I will have 979 00:45:10,185 --> 00:45:11,983 but also the wider range 980 00:45:12,053 --> 00:45:13,953 of scholarships I can apply to, you know. 981 00:45:14,022 --> 00:45:15,490 Being an African American 982 00:45:15,556 --> 00:45:18,253 and taking AP classes is what people are looking for. 983 00:45:18,326 --> 00:45:21,785 People want to give money to me and colleges want to accept me, 984 00:45:21,863 --> 00:45:23,888 'cause they, especially in California, 985 00:45:23,965 --> 00:45:27,424 are having a model of being, you know, diverse campuses. 986 00:45:29,570 --> 00:45:32,437 In the past four years... 987 00:45:32,507 --> 00:45:34,498 I've done a lot of cheating. 988 00:45:34,575 --> 00:45:38,808 The homework given by AP or honor classes is time-consuming, 989 00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:42,180 so you can't stay up, you know, 11:00, 12:00, 990 00:45:42,250 --> 00:45:44,742 1:00 in the morning doing homework each night. 991 00:45:44,819 --> 00:45:47,345 I know that I want the A, I want that B, 992 00:45:47,422 --> 00:45:52,258 I want that 3.5, that 3.8, that 4.0, and then this year, 993 00:45:52,327 --> 00:45:54,557 I'm now taking an AP government class, 994 00:45:54,629 --> 00:45:58,122 and I've gotten a D every marking period, 995 00:45:58,199 --> 00:46:03,069 and even though it's bad to see it, it's all me. 996 00:46:03,137 --> 00:46:06,698 When I got that D, I couldn't cope. 997 00:46:06,774 --> 00:46:09,505 I wanted to get out of the class so bad. 998 00:46:09,577 --> 00:46:11,705 I felt so ashamed. 999 00:46:11,779 --> 00:46:14,214 And I wouldn't say I wanted to resort 1000 00:46:14,282 --> 00:46:16,410 to dropping out of school, 1001 00:46:16,484 --> 00:46:22,582 but I was really close to not caring anymore. 1002 00:46:22,657 --> 00:46:25,592 Existentialism means pertaining to existence 1003 00:46:25,660 --> 00:46:27,389 or it can also apply to a vision 1004 00:46:27,462 --> 00:46:29,794 of condition and existence of man. 1005 00:46:29,864 --> 00:46:32,834 Well, right now, we are at Youth Radio, 1006 00:46:32,901 --> 00:46:35,336 one of the studios broadcasting the show 1007 00:46:35,403 --> 00:46:37,098 that I co-host with my friend. 1008 00:46:37,171 --> 00:46:40,574 Youth Radio is a media-based nonprofit organization 1009 00:46:40,643 --> 00:46:43,738 that provides youth such as myself an outlet 1010 00:46:43,812 --> 00:46:45,507 to voice our opinions and thoughts. 1011 00:46:45,581 --> 00:46:46,810 We have another break. 1012 00:46:46,882 --> 00:46:48,475 I'm gonna try to come on 1013 00:46:48,550 --> 00:46:51,315 and deal with this and get back to you guys. 1014 00:46:51,387 --> 00:46:57,053 Doing Youth Radio for about 18 months, and I love it. 1015 00:46:57,126 --> 00:47:00,221 The biggest challenges for me going from high school 1016 00:47:00,295 --> 00:47:03,287 into college would be financial, 1017 00:47:03,365 --> 00:47:05,561 whether or not I can afford college 1018 00:47:05,634 --> 00:47:09,002 and whether or not I'm academically prepared, 1019 00:47:09,071 --> 00:47:11,802 and I just have a fear that I'll spend all this money 1020 00:47:11,874 --> 00:47:14,639 just to fail, you know? 1021 00:47:14,710 --> 00:47:18,408 That I'm gonna be at a high level of learning 1022 00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:24,544 and not be prepared to... be there. 1023 00:47:26,789 --> 00:47:30,350 - In order for students to have a more valuable experience 1024 00:47:30,426 --> 00:47:33,327 from their high school years, 1025 00:47:33,395 --> 00:47:35,454 they're gonna have to decide, you know, 1026 00:47:35,531 --> 00:47:38,899 "I don't need to take five AP classes. 1027 00:47:38,968 --> 00:47:41,960 "Here are some classes I'm really interested in taking. 1028 00:47:42,037 --> 00:47:43,368 "I'm gonna take AP English 1029 00:47:43,439 --> 00:47:45,237 because I really enjoy literature." 1030 00:47:45,307 --> 00:47:49,107 A majority of my students will sign up for my AP biology course 1031 00:47:49,178 --> 00:47:53,547 because they get a GPA boost on their transcript. 1032 00:47:53,616 --> 00:47:55,584 The course is a runaway train. 1033 00:47:55,651 --> 00:47:59,610 There's no way we can cover all of the material in one year. 1034 00:47:59,688 --> 00:48:00,883 It's impossible. 1035 00:48:00,956 --> 00:48:04,620 What do we do? We go as fast as we can. 1036 00:48:04,693 --> 00:48:10,188 And the students absorb some of it, maybe. 1037 00:48:10,266 --> 00:48:12,564 - High school now has become preparation 1038 00:48:12,635 --> 00:48:15,002 for the college application, not even for college, 1039 00:48:15,070 --> 00:48:16,629 just the college application. 1040 00:48:16,705 --> 00:48:17,934 And it creates a mentality 1041 00:48:18,007 --> 00:48:20,442 that was expressed very well by my daughter. 1042 00:48:20,509 --> 00:48:22,944 After her French AP test, she said, 1043 00:48:23,012 --> 00:48:25,106 "I never have to speak French again." 1044 00:48:25,180 --> 00:48:26,579 - I don't think what I'm learning 1045 00:48:26,649 --> 00:48:28,378 will help me that much in my college classes. 1046 00:48:28,450 --> 00:48:32,284 I think that college is gonna be a place where I start to learn. 1047 00:48:32,354 --> 00:48:34,186 - I'm never really thinking hard 1048 00:48:34,256 --> 00:48:36,452 about the meanings of any of this. 1049 00:48:36,525 --> 00:48:38,323 I'm just thinking about how to get done. 1050 00:48:38,494 --> 00:48:41,464 - Because the standards are organized 1051 00:48:41,530 --> 00:48:43,430 in sort of component skills, 1052 00:48:43,499 --> 00:48:46,196 they often lead to teaching which is very fragmented, 1053 00:48:46,268 --> 00:48:47,736 sort of compoted teaching. 1054 00:48:47,803 --> 00:48:50,238 "We can check this off now. We've done this in the class." 1055 00:48:50,306 --> 00:48:52,776 It also reinforces 1056 00:48:52,842 --> 00:48:55,004 what Americans are often criticized for 1057 00:48:55,078 --> 00:48:57,274 in their education system, of having an education system 1058 00:48:57,347 --> 00:48:59,111 that's a mile wide and an inch deep. 1059 00:48:59,182 --> 00:49:03,278 Whereas, if you really think about what adults need 1060 00:49:03,353 --> 00:49:05,185 to be successful in life, 1061 00:49:05,255 --> 00:49:07,883 it's not knowing a whole bunch of things. 1062 00:49:07,958 --> 00:49:10,290 It's really having critical thinking skills 1063 00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:13,762 and analytic skills, being able to learn. 1064 00:49:13,830 --> 00:49:16,458 - I've been teaching graduate school 1065 00:49:16,533 --> 00:49:20,595 and medical school and dental school for over 30 years. 1066 00:49:20,670 --> 00:49:24,732 In the last decade or so, they have this entitlement 1067 00:49:24,808 --> 00:49:27,709 that they need to know exactly what's gonna go on the test 1068 00:49:27,777 --> 00:49:31,270 and not have to think about anything beyond that. 1069 00:49:31,348 --> 00:49:32,907 So what is that going to mean 1070 00:49:32,983 --> 00:49:37,011 when we have a whole population of dentists and doctors 1071 00:49:37,087 --> 00:49:39,351 who've been being trained from a script? 1072 00:49:39,422 --> 00:49:41,447 How are they going to approach new diseases 1073 00:49:41,524 --> 00:49:43,390 as they emerge in our populations? 1074 00:49:43,460 --> 00:49:47,260 How are they going to diagnose people 1075 00:49:47,330 --> 00:49:51,563 who have the nontraditional, non-scripted kind of illnesses? 1076 00:49:51,634 --> 00:49:53,625 - We've created a couple of generations now 1077 00:49:53,703 --> 00:49:55,535 that have grown up in a world of training wheels, 1078 00:49:55,605 --> 00:49:58,074 and when you always have training wheels on your bike, 1079 00:49:58,141 --> 00:50:00,371 you don't have this opportunity to fall off 1080 00:50:00,443 --> 00:50:02,639 and realize that you can pick yourself up 1081 00:50:02,712 --> 00:50:04,942 and dust yourself off and you're gonna be okay again. 1082 00:50:05,015 --> 00:50:08,576 - Fire it in there. - Kick it low. Kick it low. 1083 00:50:11,154 --> 00:50:12,986 - They have been coached from the time 1084 00:50:13,056 --> 00:50:14,319 they were very, very young. 1085 00:50:14,391 --> 00:50:16,257 They were coached by T-ball coaches, 1086 00:50:16,326 --> 00:50:17,816 by their soccer coaches. 1087 00:50:17,894 --> 00:50:19,658 They have been coached by their parents. 1088 00:50:19,729 --> 00:50:21,322 They have been coached by their teachers, 1089 00:50:21,398 --> 00:50:24,925 and in my experience, they are very much looking 1090 00:50:25,001 --> 00:50:28,130 for their employers to provide the same levels of coaching. 1091 00:50:28,204 --> 00:50:30,639 - Make sense? Okay. So anything else? 1092 00:50:30,707 --> 00:50:33,768 - I'm sure there will be. - Okay. Yeah. I'm right there. 1093 00:50:33,844 --> 00:50:35,744 - Thank you very much. - No problem. 1094 00:50:35,812 --> 00:50:39,043 - The longer I was a lawyer, 1095 00:50:39,115 --> 00:50:41,709 I felt like the kinds of newer lawyers 1096 00:50:41,785 --> 00:50:44,379 that were coming into the office or the kinds of students 1097 00:50:44,454 --> 00:50:46,422 who were my interns didn't seem to have 1098 00:50:46,489 --> 00:50:50,551 the same kind of thinking skills as the ones from years earlier. 1099 00:50:50,627 --> 00:50:53,528 They seem to be so focused on, "How many cases do you want, 1100 00:50:53,596 --> 00:50:55,325 "and how many paragraphs should I write, 1101 00:50:55,398 --> 00:50:57,196 and what should I cite?" 1102 00:50:57,267 --> 00:50:59,235 rather then going out there and saying, 1103 00:50:59,302 --> 00:51:00,497 "This is the problem, 1104 00:51:00,570 --> 00:51:02,664 and how am I gonna find the answer to the problem?" 1105 00:51:02,739 --> 00:51:04,003 - Kids are our future. 1106 00:51:04,075 --> 00:51:07,375 These are many of our leaders, and without creativity, 1107 00:51:07,445 --> 00:51:10,039 they're not gonna be prepared to lead us, 1108 00:51:10,114 --> 00:51:13,846 and the bottom line is that what creates the opportunity 1109 00:51:13,918 --> 00:51:15,317 to be innovative is to say, 1110 00:51:15,386 --> 00:51:17,013 "I'm gonna think outside this box, 1111 00:51:17,088 --> 00:51:19,079 "and if I get a C, that's all right. 1112 00:51:19,156 --> 00:51:20,749 Maybe he just doesn't get it yet." 1113 00:51:20,825 --> 00:51:22,657 Maybe he just doesn't get it yet." 1114 00:51:22,727 --> 00:51:25,958 - We are known for being innovative thinkers, 1115 00:51:26,030 --> 00:51:28,795 and I think it's because we had time, 1116 00:51:28,866 --> 00:51:31,597 or we used to have time as children to be bored, 1117 00:51:31,669 --> 00:51:36,835 and it's really important just to have that downtime. 1118 00:51:36,907 --> 00:51:39,877 - Every minute of our kids' days are scheduled. 1119 00:51:39,944 --> 00:51:42,504 They go from spending their days in school 1120 00:51:42,580 --> 00:51:45,709 to their structured activities after school 1121 00:51:45,783 --> 00:51:47,877 to hours of homework in the evenings. 1122 00:51:47,952 --> 00:51:50,717 The only unstructured time seems to be the time 1123 00:51:50,788 --> 00:51:53,280 they spend on their computer. 1124 00:51:53,357 --> 00:51:56,156 I worry about the addictive nature of the time 1125 00:51:56,227 --> 00:51:57,558 they're spending on the computer, 1126 00:51:57,628 --> 00:51:59,562 and I worry about the isolation. 1127 00:52:03,167 --> 00:52:05,067 - If we take play away from childhood, 1128 00:52:05,136 --> 00:52:08,902 we're taking away the very tool that has always worked 1129 00:52:08,973 --> 00:52:12,637 to have kids figure out how to exist in the adult world. 1130 00:52:14,178 --> 00:52:15,703 - Play is children's work. 1131 00:52:15,780 --> 00:52:18,772 Play for older children teaches them the rules of the game, 1132 00:52:18,849 --> 00:52:22,410 teaches them that all structures have rules around them. 1133 00:52:22,486 --> 00:52:24,614 Play is just a critical part 1134 00:52:24,689 --> 00:52:27,715 of a growing mind and a growing body. 1135 00:52:27,792 --> 00:52:30,818 - I feel like I've missed out on a lot of my childhood 1136 00:52:30,895 --> 00:52:33,125 because I've been inside doing homework 1137 00:52:33,197 --> 00:52:36,030 instead of being able to go out and play in the street, 1138 00:52:36,100 --> 00:52:38,694 draw on the street with chalk, and I think that's sad. 1139 00:52:38,769 --> 00:52:39,827 I think that the teachers 1140 00:52:39,904 --> 00:52:42,839 are slowly taking away your innocence, 1141 00:52:42,907 --> 00:52:45,842 and what you have as a child, you're not gonna ever, you know, 1142 00:52:45,910 --> 00:52:48,004 have a chance to get back. 1143 00:52:48,079 --> 00:52:49,911 - I think what's happening to kids these days is, 1144 00:52:49,981 --> 00:52:52,109 they're not being allowed to find what it is 1145 00:52:52,183 --> 00:52:55,414 that they love to do, and it's really important, 1146 00:52:55,486 --> 00:52:57,648 because we're driven by our passions. 1147 00:52:57,722 --> 00:52:59,087 To be successful, 1148 00:52:59,156 --> 00:53:02,421 you have to really, really love what you're doing. 1149 00:53:02,493 --> 00:53:04,188 - If you're four and you're resume building, 1150 00:53:04,261 --> 00:53:06,093 if you're eight and you're resume building, 1151 00:53:06,163 --> 00:53:07,597 you lose all of that time, 1152 00:53:07,665 --> 00:53:09,997 the wonder, the joy of childhood, 1153 00:53:10,067 --> 00:53:12,092 which should be full of zest and adventure 1154 00:53:12,169 --> 00:53:14,399 and, you know, sort of a joie de vivre, 1155 00:53:14,472 --> 00:53:16,406 and I think it's lost for these kids. 1156 00:53:17,042 --> 00:53:21,673 - A lot of people say that you have to do well now 1157 00:53:21,747 --> 00:53:24,546 so you can get into a good college someday, 1158 00:53:24,616 --> 00:53:29,520 but I'm in third grade, so I have a long time. 1159 00:53:29,588 --> 00:53:33,388 - We don't have time for you to be a child. 1160 00:53:33,459 --> 00:53:35,689 We just don't have time. You're playing. 1161 00:53:35,761 --> 00:53:38,059 No time for play. It's about business. 1162 00:53:38,130 --> 00:53:39,564 You have to get into a good school. 1163 00:53:39,631 --> 00:53:42,066 No school other than a good school is gonna be good enough. 1164 00:53:46,004 --> 00:53:48,302 - This is a numbers-driven society. 1165 00:53:48,373 --> 00:53:51,240 We have ratings of all of the colleges, 1166 00:53:51,310 --> 00:53:54,245 and those ratings are largely driven by numbers. 1167 00:53:54,313 --> 00:53:57,305 - Every school has to have a good yield. 1168 00:53:57,382 --> 00:54:00,579 They have to show their donors, you know, 1169 00:54:00,652 --> 00:54:02,814 so that their endowment continues to grow, 1170 00:54:02,888 --> 00:54:05,585 that they are recruiting amazing kids. 1171 00:54:05,657 --> 00:54:06,920 - College now is more competitive 1172 00:54:06,992 --> 00:54:09,689 than it has ever been, partly because we have a bulge 1173 00:54:09,762 --> 00:54:11,787 of the children of the baby boomers. 1174 00:54:11,864 --> 00:54:14,196 They are in a very competitive situation, 1175 00:54:14,266 --> 00:54:16,064 but they don't have to make students feel 1176 00:54:16,134 --> 00:54:19,866 like they have to go to Stanford to be happy or Yale or Harvard 1177 00:54:19,938 --> 00:54:22,430 or some of the other handful of schools. 1178 00:54:22,507 --> 00:54:24,771 It's like going through the eye of the needle 1179 00:54:24,843 --> 00:54:26,333 to get into these schools now. 1180 00:54:26,411 --> 00:54:28,573 - For those who don't get into their dream school, 1181 00:54:28,647 --> 00:54:30,638 that rejection letter is like death. 1182 00:54:30,715 --> 00:54:32,979 If you don't get into a four-year university 1183 00:54:33,051 --> 00:54:35,452 and you're going to a junior college instead 1184 00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:36,919 or a community college, it's, like- 1185 00:54:36,989 --> 00:54:38,320 there's such a stigma around that. 1186 00:54:38,390 --> 00:54:40,620 It's like you're not good enough or... 1187 00:54:40,692 --> 00:54:43,423 - You're stupid. - You're not rich enough. 1188 00:54:43,495 --> 00:54:45,691 - The world is really run by C students. 1189 00:54:45,764 --> 00:54:48,358 You start looking at top CEOs across the country, 1190 00:54:48,433 --> 00:54:50,834 and few of them were from top schools. 1191 00:54:50,903 --> 00:54:52,632 Few of them were the top grads. 1192 00:54:52,704 --> 00:54:55,503 They're just people who were very, very persistent. 1193 00:55:12,624 --> 00:55:17,289 - The notion that there is a best school, 1194 00:55:17,362 --> 00:55:19,160 it goes against everything 1195 00:55:19,231 --> 00:55:21,825 that educators and psychologists and psychiatrists know. 1196 00:55:21,900 --> 00:55:27,168 There is no best anything. It's a match between children. 1197 00:55:30,510 --> 00:55:33,036 - College is really, at this point in time, 1198 00:55:33,112 --> 00:55:36,207 it is big business, and I think that colleges 1199 00:55:36,282 --> 00:55:41,914 have gotten so savvy and have really become major companies 1200 00:55:41,988 --> 00:55:45,356 that are selling their wares and their goods to kids, 1201 00:55:45,425 --> 00:55:47,917 because the more kids apply to schools, 1202 00:55:47,994 --> 00:55:51,089 that's going to increase a school's reputation. 1203 00:55:51,164 --> 00:55:55,328 Now we have over 48,000 students who are applying, 1204 00:55:55,401 --> 00:55:57,563 and we're only gonna accept 12,000 1205 00:55:57,637 --> 00:56:01,073 to enroll about less than half of that number. 1206 00:56:01,140 --> 00:56:05,077 The average weighted GPA is a 4.35, 1207 00:56:05,144 --> 00:56:09,342 but the average unweighted GPA is a 3.87, 1208 00:56:09,415 --> 00:56:11,383 so I say that to tell you, of course, 1209 00:56:11,451 --> 00:56:14,443 we're gonna always take the top students 1210 00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:17,012 who have taken every AP and honors course, 1211 00:56:17,090 --> 00:56:20,788 college-level course that they possibly can. 1212 00:56:20,860 --> 00:56:24,694 I feel that I've been a perpetrator of the madness 1213 00:56:24,764 --> 00:56:27,028 in a sense, because I've gone out, 1214 00:56:27,100 --> 00:56:28,761 and I've told kids, you know, 1215 00:56:28,835 --> 00:56:32,100 "You've got to take this AP, this, you know, honors. 1216 00:56:32,172 --> 00:56:33,662 "You have to take as many as you can, 1217 00:56:33,740 --> 00:56:36,232 "because we want to see if you've taken total advantage 1218 00:56:36,309 --> 00:56:38,141 "of the opportunities that are available to you 1219 00:56:38,211 --> 00:56:39,474 at your high school," 1220 00:56:39,545 --> 00:56:42,776 and I don't think that we really realize the pressure 1221 00:56:42,849 --> 00:56:46,251 and the stress that is on these kids to perform. 1222 00:56:46,319 --> 00:56:49,880 We just know what the ultimate goal is that we want, 1223 00:56:49,956 --> 00:56:51,446 and we want the top students, 1224 00:56:51,524 --> 00:56:53,390 because we are a top institution, 1225 00:56:53,459 --> 00:56:58,056 but I wonder sometimes, at the expense of what? 1226 00:57:06,573 --> 00:57:09,736 - So this is a really striking statistic. 1227 00:57:09,809 --> 00:57:10,935 The University of California, 1228 00:57:11,010 --> 00:57:12,739 which is a tough school to get into, 1229 00:57:12,812 --> 00:57:15,179 and Cal State schools in California, 1230 00:57:15,248 --> 00:57:17,182 you need B average for the state schools; 1231 00:57:17,250 --> 00:57:20,220 you need, sometimes, over a 4.0 for the UCs. 1232 00:57:20,286 --> 00:57:24,587 They have to remediate 50% of their admits. 1233 00:57:24,657 --> 00:57:26,989 What that means is, almost half of the kids 1234 00:57:27,060 --> 00:57:28,653 who get into the University of California 1235 00:57:28,728 --> 00:57:32,790 have to retake basic high school level math or English 1236 00:57:32,865 --> 00:57:37,701 just to get to where they need to be as university freshmen. 1237 00:57:37,770 --> 00:57:40,467 So how are they getting these really high GPAs 1238 00:57:40,540 --> 00:57:43,943 and yet not being college ready? 1239 00:57:44,011 --> 00:57:46,309 They're doing school. They're cheating. 1240 00:57:46,380 --> 00:57:48,940 They're spitting back but not retaining the information, 1241 00:57:49,016 --> 00:57:51,280 and the schools are not teaching, necessarily, 1242 00:57:51,352 --> 00:57:54,117 in a way that's preparing them for college work. 1243 00:57:59,393 --> 00:58:02,920 - In high school, I was definitely doing school. 1244 00:58:02,996 --> 00:58:04,259 I was in a situation 1245 00:58:04,331 --> 00:58:07,995 where I wanted to get a good grade on a test, 1246 00:58:08,068 --> 00:58:12,027 and what that meant was learning everything I needed to learn 1247 00:58:12,106 --> 00:58:14,131 the night or two nights before the test 1248 00:58:14,208 --> 00:58:16,472 and making sure that I could memorize it 1249 00:58:16,543 --> 00:58:19,240 and throw it back down on a test, 1250 00:58:19,313 --> 00:58:22,840 and I would-l can't say that more than two weeks later, 1251 00:58:22,916 --> 00:58:24,441 I knew what the information was, 1252 00:58:24,518 --> 00:58:26,953 but I know that I got a good grade on that test. 1253 00:58:27,021 --> 00:58:29,217 When I got to college, 1254 00:58:29,289 --> 00:58:32,224 I was burned out from high school. 1255 00:58:32,292 --> 00:58:34,090 Freshman year was very difficult, 1256 00:58:34,161 --> 00:58:38,792 just adjusting to a new level and knowing that no longer 1257 00:58:38,866 --> 00:58:41,801 was I getting ready for tests like I was in high school. 1258 00:58:41,869 --> 00:58:46,238 I actually really had to know this information inside and out, 1259 00:58:46,307 --> 00:58:49,675 and, you know, my grades didn't reflect that I knew that, 1260 00:58:49,743 --> 00:58:54,146 and I ended up getting really sad about it. 1261 00:58:54,215 --> 00:58:57,879 - I think there's a lot of sort of hidden depression on campus. 1262 00:58:57,952 --> 00:58:59,010 I think a lot of students 1263 00:58:59,086 --> 00:59:01,783 will maybe secretly take a quarter off, 1264 00:59:01,856 --> 00:59:03,119 or they'll take a quarter off 1265 00:59:03,190 --> 00:59:04,624 and only tell their closest friends. 1266 00:59:04,691 --> 00:59:06,318 I've had a couple friends do that, 1267 00:59:06,394 --> 00:59:09,455 and when they're here, you have completely no idea 1268 00:59:09,530 --> 00:59:11,464 that they're this stressed out or depressed. 1269 00:59:11,532 --> 00:59:13,261 - We have folks that are going in the psych ward. 1270 00:59:13,334 --> 00:59:15,234 My dad works at a psychiatric hospital 1271 00:59:15,302 --> 00:59:16,497 in Berkeley, California. 1272 00:59:16,570 --> 00:59:18,732 He said, "I know when finals are. 1273 00:59:18,806 --> 00:59:21,707 I always know when finals are, because we have to clear- 1274 00:59:21,775 --> 00:59:24,107 "we get all-our beds start to fill up 1275 00:59:24,178 --> 00:59:26,704 with students from the local university." 1276 00:59:26,780 --> 00:59:27,975 Parents come in and say, 1277 00:59:28,048 --> 00:59:29,812 "Well, they need to get up and go do their work." 1278 00:59:29,884 --> 00:59:31,750 And my dad's like, "They can't." 1279 00:59:31,819 --> 00:59:33,651 "Well, they were a good kid." 1280 00:59:33,721 --> 00:59:34,847 No, they were a good performer. 1281 00:59:34,922 --> 00:59:36,754 You never knew if they were a good kid. 1282 00:59:36,824 --> 00:59:39,589 You never found out if they were a good, solid kid. 1283 00:59:39,660 --> 00:59:41,560 You knew they were a good student. 1284 00:59:55,209 --> 00:59:56,735 - I would get very good grades 1285 00:59:56,811 --> 00:59:58,745 in elementary school and junior high. 1286 00:59:58,813 --> 01:00:01,043 I was considered to be very intelligent, 1287 01:00:01,116 --> 01:00:03,847 and my parents expected me to get straight A's 1288 01:00:03,918 --> 01:00:07,081 and go to a very prestigious college. 1289 01:00:07,155 --> 01:00:09,055 I was a cheerleader, a gymnast. 1290 01:00:09,124 --> 01:00:12,890 You know, I've played sports, like, every year of my life. 1291 01:00:12,961 --> 01:00:16,761 I was getting my academic honors diploma to graduate. 1292 01:00:16,832 --> 01:00:19,096 I had been working really hard for that 1293 01:00:19,167 --> 01:00:22,933 up until my sophomore year, and a teacher- 1294 01:00:23,004 --> 01:00:25,598 I've never been good in math, and I needed his help. 1295 01:00:25,674 --> 01:00:28,871 I came in after school, and he wouldn't help me, 1296 01:00:28,944 --> 01:00:32,244 so I failed that class and lost my academic honors diploma, 1297 01:00:32,314 --> 01:00:35,841 which, you know, I needed, 1298 01:00:35,917 --> 01:00:37,851 'cause I wanted to go to a really good college. 1299 01:00:37,919 --> 01:00:39,910 I wanted to make my parents proud, 1300 01:00:39,988 --> 01:00:44,755 and so after that was gone, 1301 01:00:44,826 --> 01:00:48,456 I kind of gave up and stopped attending school regularly. 1302 01:00:50,398 --> 01:00:53,197 It was definitely a huge blow to my self-esteem 1303 01:00:53,268 --> 01:00:55,737 that I did not get the grade that I wanted in math. 1304 01:00:55,804 --> 01:00:57,101 I had a tutor. 1305 01:00:57,172 --> 01:01:00,403 I was trying so hard, and I still couldn't do it, 1306 01:01:00,475 --> 01:01:03,968 so I stopped trying, because if you don't try, you can't fail. 1307 01:01:07,549 --> 01:01:12,111 I just thought everything that I worked so hard for was over, 1308 01:01:12,187 --> 01:01:15,953 so it was really hard for me to get up in the morning 1309 01:01:16,024 --> 01:01:18,118 and go to school. 1310 01:01:18,193 --> 01:01:20,355 My mom was worried about me being expelled, 1311 01:01:20,428 --> 01:01:22,021 because I wasn't going to school, 1312 01:01:22,097 --> 01:01:26,625 so she checked me into a stress center 1313 01:01:26,701 --> 01:01:33,437 where I went for two weeks all day until it got under control. 1314 01:01:35,076 --> 01:01:37,738 - I hope that taking some of the pressure off 1315 01:01:37,812 --> 01:01:43,114 of Allison going to college helped her make some progress. 1316 01:01:43,184 --> 01:01:44,549 Just because you don't go to college 1317 01:01:44,619 --> 01:01:46,417 doesn't mean you're a failure for life. 1318 01:01:46,488 --> 01:01:49,389 There's other options. Maybe you go part-time. 1319 01:01:49,457 --> 01:01:51,221 Maybe you wait a couple years. 1320 01:01:51,292 --> 01:01:55,160 It's not the end of the world if you don't fit the same mold 1321 01:01:55,230 --> 01:01:57,358 as everyone else. 1322 01:01:57,432 --> 01:02:02,529 So I'm glad if that helped her. 1323 01:02:02,604 --> 01:02:07,508 I wish I could help her more. I just don't know how exactly. 1324 01:02:09,912 --> 01:02:14,816 - I am very disappointed that there's no artistic, 1325 01:02:14,884 --> 01:02:19,446 right-brain kind of measurement of talent and knowledge. 1326 01:02:19,522 --> 01:02:22,321 The SATs are about English and math. 1327 01:02:22,391 --> 01:02:28,489 There's no standardized test for art or just different ideas. 1328 01:02:28,564 --> 01:02:32,592 There's absolutely no appreciation for that kind 1329 01:02:32,668 --> 01:02:37,230 of interest or thinking or talent or knowledge. 1330 01:02:37,306 --> 01:02:39,638 I think success in America 1331 01:02:39,709 --> 01:02:42,235 is definitely defined by how much money you've made, 1332 01:02:42,311 --> 01:02:45,076 not by how happy you are with your life. 1333 01:02:45,147 --> 01:02:49,380 I mean, I just felt this enormous pressure to grow up 1334 01:02:49,452 --> 01:02:51,853 and get a really big house, but I don't know. 1335 01:02:51,921 --> 01:02:54,856 That's just not how it is in other countries. 1336 01:02:54,924 --> 01:02:57,950 They're like, "Oh, okay, so they have a modest living. 1337 01:02:58,027 --> 01:02:59,324 Cool." 1338 01:02:59,395 --> 01:03:01,261 But here it's like, "Okay, well, if you don't earn 1339 01:03:01,330 --> 01:03:03,424 a lot of money, something went wrong." 1340 01:03:05,167 --> 01:03:08,034 - The reason why kids want to go to great colleges 1341 01:03:08,104 --> 01:03:10,402 is to get a great job and to make a lot of money, 1342 01:03:10,473 --> 01:03:13,374 and I think people place so much emphasis on making money 1343 01:03:13,443 --> 01:03:16,469 and watching TV and seeing all the famous people 1344 01:03:16,545 --> 01:03:17,842 with their huge houses, 1345 01:03:17,914 --> 01:03:20,645 and everyone wants to be that and have all of that, 1346 01:03:20,716 --> 01:03:21,911 and that's not really 1347 01:03:21,984 --> 01:03:23,509 what's gonna make people happy in the end. 1348 01:03:23,586 --> 01:03:27,147 I think the whole culture just kind of needs to revise 1349 01:03:27,223 --> 01:03:30,215 what is important and what is not. 1350 01:03:30,393 --> 01:03:33,920 - The environment and the culture is so competitive 1351 01:03:33,996 --> 01:03:36,431 that kids don't ever feel they can let anyone 1352 01:03:36,499 --> 01:03:38,797 really see their true selves. 1353 01:03:38,868 --> 01:03:42,634 You can go online very easily and start to understand 1354 01:03:42,705 --> 01:03:45,538 how success is defined in our culture. 1355 01:03:45,608 --> 01:03:47,303 Part of it, I do think, 1356 01:03:47,376 --> 01:03:51,006 is this media and technology-driven culture 1357 01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:54,448 where kids are creating these identities online, 1358 01:03:54,517 --> 01:03:56,508 whether through Facebook or I.M. 1359 01:03:56,586 --> 01:03:58,486 or through their YouTube accounts, 1360 01:03:58,554 --> 01:04:00,886 and it's very easy for them 1361 01:04:00,957 --> 01:04:04,689 to compare themselves to their peers. 1362 01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:09,459 Kids are so trained to say everything is good 1363 01:04:09,532 --> 01:04:12,524 and to look a certain way. 1364 01:04:12,768 --> 01:04:14,566 - It's hard for parents to see 1365 01:04:14,637 --> 01:04:17,004 when their children are having difficulty. 1366 01:04:17,073 --> 01:04:20,441 It's not easily observable when kids are in trouble now. 1367 01:04:20,510 --> 01:04:22,809 You go down to the local supermarket, 1368 01:04:22,879 --> 01:04:25,712 and everybody's on line talking about how fabulously 1369 01:04:25,782 --> 01:04:26,840 their kids are doing, 1370 01:04:26,917 --> 01:04:28,112 and I know it's not true, 1371 01:04:28,185 --> 01:04:30,051 'cause I see a lot of their kids, 1372 01:04:30,120 --> 01:04:31,884 so, you know, there's, again, 1373 01:04:31,955 --> 01:04:34,117 even with the adults in this community, 1374 01:04:34,191 --> 01:04:37,252 there's a tremendous need to look as if, you know, 1375 01:04:37,327 --> 01:04:38,488 all is right with the world, 1376 01:04:38,562 --> 01:04:42,123 and that's really not what community is about. 1377 01:04:42,199 --> 01:04:43,223 Community is like family. 1378 01:04:43,300 --> 01:04:47,828 You have to be able to be who you are. 1379 01:04:47,904 --> 01:04:49,872 - I think we live in a culture 1380 01:04:49,940 --> 01:04:54,776 where all of us are trained to say everything is good. 1381 01:04:54,845 --> 01:04:57,780 Jamey had been struggling for a long time 1382 01:04:57,848 --> 01:05:00,783 and not letting anyone really know. 1383 01:05:00,851 --> 01:05:04,310 She was feeling really bad about herself. 1384 01:05:04,388 --> 01:05:06,982 - When a teacher tells me that they don't like the grade 1385 01:05:07,057 --> 01:05:08,422 that I'm getting in that class, 1386 01:05:08,492 --> 01:05:11,427 it makes me feel kind of like I'm not that smart. 1387 01:05:11,495 --> 01:05:13,987 - When this all started happening 1388 01:05:14,064 --> 01:05:16,658 and I would go into Jamey's school to say 1389 01:05:16,733 --> 01:05:19,896 that Jamey's struggling and she's having these issues, 1390 01:05:19,970 --> 01:05:22,462 the response I'd get over and over again is, 1391 01:05:22,539 --> 01:05:24,007 "She looks fine to us." 1392 01:05:24,074 --> 01:05:27,669 I so often was made to feel like I was the only person 1393 01:05:27,744 --> 01:05:31,078 experiencing these issues and that everybody else's kids 1394 01:05:31,148 --> 01:05:35,813 were doing soccer and juggling their homework just fine. 1395 01:05:35,886 --> 01:05:39,754 - Recently, the stress has been so bad at school, 1396 01:05:39,823 --> 01:05:42,690 sometimes I would come home feeling really sick, 1397 01:05:42,759 --> 01:05:46,696 and one night I went to bed at 5:00 p.m., 1398 01:05:46,763 --> 01:05:49,425 and I didn't wake up until the next morning. 1399 01:05:49,499 --> 01:05:52,696 - When Jamey was having a really hard time 1400 01:05:52,770 --> 01:05:54,568 going to school one day, you know, 1401 01:05:54,638 --> 01:05:56,265 I was trying to talk her through it and said, 1402 01:05:56,340 --> 01:05:58,172 "We have to find a way and a school 1403 01:05:58,242 --> 01:05:59,334 "that's gonna work for you, 1404 01:05:59,409 --> 01:06:01,741 because you have a lot of school ahead of you," 1405 01:06:01,812 --> 01:06:03,246 And her answer to me was, 1406 01:06:03,313 --> 01:06:05,213 "That's why I don't want to live anymore, 1407 01:06:05,282 --> 01:06:07,216 "because I think about all of the school 1408 01:06:07,284 --> 01:06:12,381 "that I have and how much anxiety I feel being at school, 1409 01:06:12,456 --> 01:06:15,050 and I don't want to do that." 1410 01:06:15,125 --> 01:06:19,153 The doctor that we saw in December, the pediatrician, 1411 01:06:19,229 --> 01:06:23,188 told us that we weren't getting the same Jamey back. 1412 01:06:25,235 --> 01:06:27,431 And so I worry about that, 1413 01:06:27,504 --> 01:06:31,634 because I worry about- for Jamey- 1414 01:06:31,708 --> 01:06:35,042 Jamey feels really frustrated and angry, 1415 01:06:35,112 --> 01:06:37,878 and she doesn't always have the ability to look long-term 1416 01:06:37,949 --> 01:06:40,350 and say, "Okay, this is a really bad time, 1417 01:06:40,418 --> 01:06:41,817 "but I'm gonna get through this, 1418 01:06:41,886 --> 01:06:45,516 and there's still really good times to look forward to." 1419 01:07:01,973 --> 01:07:04,874 - There's an increase in suicide for the first time in decades, 1420 01:07:04,943 --> 01:07:08,607 a significant increase, particularly among young girls. 1421 01:07:08,680 --> 01:07:10,842 We're seeing the fallout of many things. 1422 01:07:10,915 --> 01:07:12,007 You know, you can never say 1423 01:07:12,083 --> 01:07:13,915 suicide is simply about pressure, 1424 01:07:13,985 --> 01:07:15,578 but we do know that pressure 1425 01:07:15,653 --> 01:07:17,382 makes kids anxious and depressed. 1426 01:07:17,455 --> 01:07:19,685 We do know that depression leads to suicide, 1427 01:07:19,757 --> 01:07:23,785 and there's a higher rate and a very worrisome acceleration 1428 01:07:23,861 --> 01:07:26,626 of suicide in this country. 1429 01:07:26,698 --> 01:07:29,133 I think we need to pay attention to it. 1430 01:07:33,071 --> 01:07:37,702 - Devon, in sixth grade, she was my very first lab partner. 1431 01:07:37,775 --> 01:07:39,300 I thought that she was probably just, 1432 01:07:39,377 --> 01:07:40,503 like, the most perfect person, 1433 01:07:40,578 --> 01:07:41,977 and there were times where I thought, 1434 01:07:42,046 --> 01:07:43,536 "Wow, I wish I was like Devon," 1435 01:07:43,614 --> 01:07:47,915 'cause she is someone who was just really good at everything. 1436 01:07:47,986 --> 01:07:51,320 What I noticed about her was her great talent in music. 1437 01:07:51,389 --> 01:07:56,589 She played violin, and she also played piano in jazz band. 1438 01:07:56,661 --> 01:08:01,497 I only realized she died at the funeral. 1439 01:08:01,566 --> 01:08:05,230 I felt like she was gonna walk through the door. 1440 01:08:08,540 --> 01:08:12,443 - Everything seemed so very normal, 1441 01:08:12,510 --> 01:08:16,447 and the difficult thing is, in many ways, 1442 01:08:16,514 --> 01:08:19,484 I thought I knew Devon really well, 1443 01:08:19,550 --> 01:08:23,418 and, well, Scott would say, 1444 01:08:23,488 --> 01:08:24,978 "I don't know what's going on with her." 1445 01:08:25,056 --> 01:08:27,047 I'd be like, "I do. 1446 01:08:27,125 --> 01:08:28,684 I was that child." 1447 01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:30,751 Scott actually went to the school counselor, 1448 01:08:30,828 --> 01:08:32,694 and he said, "I don't know my daughter. 1449 01:08:32,764 --> 01:08:34,493 What's happening?" 1450 01:08:34,566 --> 01:08:38,002 They said, "Oh, it's being 13." 1451 01:08:38,069 --> 01:08:39,764 And they're like, "Oh, get used to that. 1452 01:08:39,837 --> 01:08:42,238 You've got another five years of this." 1453 01:08:42,307 --> 01:08:43,672 So honestly, 1454 01:08:43,741 --> 01:08:47,234 we thought everything was very, very normal. 1455 01:08:47,312 --> 01:08:50,977 Both: Eight, nine, ten. - Jump! 1456 01:08:54,887 --> 01:08:57,015 - She always got great grades, 1457 01:08:57,089 --> 01:09:01,390 and she always learned things easily. 1458 01:09:01,460 --> 01:09:06,022 Until you get to a certain age, and it's just tough, 1459 01:09:06,098 --> 01:09:09,830 so even for smart kids, 1460 01:09:09,902 --> 01:09:13,304 I think sometimes they put pressure on themselves. 1461 01:09:13,372 --> 01:09:16,933 If you've always had A's, there's only one way to go, 1462 01:09:17,009 --> 01:09:22,641 and it's down, and so that B feels like a failure. 1463 01:09:22,715 --> 01:09:27,016 Devon had always been very good at math. 1464 01:09:27,086 --> 01:09:30,420 She really wanted to be in advanced math, 1465 01:09:30,489 --> 01:09:35,086 and she did start having a difficult time. 1466 01:09:35,160 --> 01:09:38,221 This was eighth grade algebra, 1467 01:09:38,297 --> 01:09:44,464 and she went from having 100% to- 1468 01:09:44,536 --> 01:09:46,561 she came home one day, and she said, 1469 01:09:46,638 --> 01:09:50,871 "I had this test, and I got an F," 1470 01:09:50,943 --> 01:09:51,876 and it was hard for her. 1471 01:09:51,944 --> 01:09:55,403 The weekend before she died, 1472 01:09:55,481 --> 01:09:59,281 she was literally gonna be doing math homework. 1473 01:09:59,351 --> 01:10:03,151 That's what she was gonna be doing on the Saturday morning. 1474 01:10:03,222 --> 01:10:08,683 You think that with suicide that there are signals. 1475 01:10:08,761 --> 01:10:10,627 People tell you there are signals. 1476 01:10:10,696 --> 01:10:12,528 I mean, they've said, "Well, was she doing this? 1477 01:10:12,598 --> 01:10:14,362 "Was she doing- did she give everything away? 1478 01:10:14,433 --> 01:10:16,765 Was she- were there mood swings?" 1479 01:10:16,836 --> 01:10:20,830 And the answer to all of those questions were no, 1480 01:10:20,906 --> 01:10:26,743 and that's what made it and continues to make it so scary. 1481 01:10:26,812 --> 01:10:33,149 I looked at every phone call, every email, every chat to say, 1482 01:10:33,219 --> 01:10:34,778 "What did we miss? 1483 01:10:34,854 --> 01:10:38,085 How could I possibly have let this happen?" 1484 01:10:38,157 --> 01:10:42,526 And the only thing I can think of is, 1485 01:10:42,595 --> 01:10:47,533 she did have this internal pressure. 1486 01:10:47,600 --> 01:10:50,433 She was torn up about this math. 1487 01:10:50,502 --> 01:10:52,937 She was torn up about- "I can't do it." 1488 01:10:53,005 --> 01:10:56,498 And here is a child who had always been so successful 1489 01:10:56,575 --> 01:11:02,106 on so many fronts, and a stupid math grade. 1490 01:11:11,391 --> 01:11:16,955 All I know is, it's a lot harder being a teenager 1491 01:11:17,030 --> 01:11:20,830 than I think it ever was for us, 1492 01:11:20,901 --> 01:11:24,929 and whether it's grades, whether it's, "Are you popular? 1493 01:11:25,005 --> 01:11:28,964 Are you fitting in?" 1494 01:11:29,042 --> 01:11:32,342 l just - l don't know. 1495 01:12:06,513 --> 01:12:10,882 - Seeing how Jamey had changed from being a happy-go-lucky kid 1496 01:12:10,951 --> 01:12:14,785 to not being able to get out of bed in the morning, 1497 01:12:14,854 --> 01:12:19,189 it became clear we needed to change her school. 1498 01:12:19,259 --> 01:12:22,456 Right now, for me, success is just getting her health back. 1499 01:12:22,529 --> 01:12:26,989 - At the new school, I was really excited to get there, 1500 01:12:27,067 --> 01:12:29,968 and then a few weeks later, I guess I figured out- 1501 01:12:30,036 --> 01:12:31,834 like, it clicked that it was still school 1502 01:12:31,905 --> 01:12:33,498 and I still had to do lots of work, 1503 01:12:33,573 --> 01:12:38,033 so now I'm still kind of stressed out. 1504 01:12:38,111 --> 01:12:42,947 - I started to wonder whether when I was trying to ensure 1505 01:12:43,016 --> 01:12:46,008 that my kids had a stable and secure future, 1506 01:12:46,086 --> 01:12:48,111 we had gone too far in one direction 1507 01:12:48,188 --> 01:12:50,953 and had been doing more harm than good. 1508 01:12:51,024 --> 01:12:55,188 It's only after you've been a parent for a while 1509 01:12:55,262 --> 01:12:57,196 that you can look back and say, 1510 01:12:57,264 --> 01:12:59,699 "I wish I had this to do over again." 1511 01:12:59,766 --> 01:13:03,669 Doug and I have implemented a lot of changes in our home. 1512 01:13:03,737 --> 01:13:07,765 We don't ask about homework. We don't ask about grades. 1513 01:13:07,841 --> 01:13:11,243 We advocate at our kids' schools for less homework 1514 01:13:11,311 --> 01:13:14,645 and more time to play after school. 1515 01:13:14,714 --> 01:13:18,015 We've always made sure to have family dinners together. 1516 01:13:18,085 --> 01:13:20,816 I really hope that these things have a positive impact 1517 01:13:20,888 --> 01:13:24,153 on our kids and the way they feel about their childhood, 1518 01:13:24,225 --> 01:13:26,990 and yet, it's really hard to do this alone. 1519 01:13:30,898 --> 01:13:35,301 - We have an opportunity to change the way 1520 01:13:35,369 --> 01:13:38,999 that we conceive of being successful for kids, 1521 01:13:39,073 --> 01:13:40,268 and it takes bravery. 1522 01:13:40,341 --> 01:13:42,469 You're swimming against the popular culture. 1523 01:13:42,543 --> 01:13:44,033 You're swimming against the stream. 1524 01:13:49,784 --> 01:13:52,583 - Why did we want to start a school? 1525 01:13:52,653 --> 01:13:56,453 First of all, you start with, you've got to be crazy, okay? 1526 01:13:56,524 --> 01:13:59,585 So we qualify there. 1527 01:13:59,661 --> 01:14:03,427 Our question is, why can't we have children 1528 01:14:03,498 --> 01:14:08,060 who love going to school all the way through 12th grade? 1529 01:14:08,136 --> 01:14:13,802 Why can't we have happiness be as important a metric 1530 01:14:13,875 --> 01:14:18,437 as reading skills and math scores? 1531 01:14:18,512 --> 01:14:22,142 It's something about respecting the child 1532 01:14:22,216 --> 01:14:26,244 in a different way than our existing system. 1533 01:14:26,320 --> 01:14:29,119 The idea of having a kid sit at his desk 1534 01:14:29,190 --> 01:14:31,887 with his hands folded staring out for X number 1535 01:14:31,959 --> 01:14:35,054 of hours a day just being so antiquated. 1536 01:14:35,129 --> 01:14:37,359 - Then, Charles, what's going on up here? 1537 01:14:37,432 --> 01:14:40,629 - That's the blue guy's spaceship. 1538 01:14:40,701 --> 01:14:43,102 - These kids come to the table with this creativity 1539 01:14:43,171 --> 01:14:47,438 and this drive and this love of life and love of learning. 1540 01:14:47,508 --> 01:14:50,409 Let's just not take it out of them. 1541 01:14:50,478 --> 01:14:52,276 How about that? 1542 01:14:52,346 --> 01:14:54,713 - The model that we're using at Blue School 1543 01:14:54,782 --> 01:14:56,216 really takes the best practices 1544 01:14:56,284 --> 01:14:59,219 that exist in many different contexts. 1545 01:14:59,287 --> 01:15:02,188 We looked a lot at Reggio Amilia and emerging curriculums, 1546 01:15:02,256 --> 01:15:04,384 so a lot of the theories and the threads 1547 01:15:04,458 --> 01:15:07,860 that our teachers explore come from the children themselves. 1548 01:15:07,929 --> 01:15:10,694 - We want our kids to be great readers. 1549 01:15:10,765 --> 01:15:13,359 We want them to be able to do math at high levels. 1550 01:15:13,434 --> 01:15:15,493 It's just, how do you get there? 1551 01:15:15,570 --> 01:15:17,595 - We're also looking at Howard Gardner's 1552 01:15:17,672 --> 01:15:21,267 multiple intelligence theories and infusing a lot of values 1553 01:15:21,342 --> 01:15:24,778 of creativity and entrepreneurial thinking, 1554 01:15:24,846 --> 01:15:27,042 and then, of course, the social and emotional component, 1555 01:15:27,115 --> 01:15:28,777 which is, you know, one of the core values 1556 01:15:28,851 --> 01:15:30,478 that we have at our school. 1557 01:15:30,552 --> 01:15:36,457 - The schools of tomorrow may not resemble a lot 1558 01:15:36,525 --> 01:15:40,758 of what they looked like the past 100 years, 1559 01:15:40,829 --> 01:15:43,821 but, hey, the world is not resembling 1560 01:15:43,899 --> 01:15:46,425 what it looked like the last 100 years either. 1561 01:15:48,871 --> 01:15:50,168 - So our first task, I think, 1562 01:15:50,239 --> 01:15:52,037 is for people to really understand 1563 01:15:52,107 --> 01:15:54,337 that we have a very serious problem 1564 01:15:54,409 --> 01:15:57,538 and that the economic future of the country, 1565 01:15:57,613 --> 01:16:01,743 the well-being of the country, depends on our addressing this. 1566 01:16:01,817 --> 01:16:03,649 The second thing I think they have to understand 1567 01:16:03,719 --> 01:16:05,244 is that it's not an easy fix. 1568 01:16:05,320 --> 01:16:07,482 It's not fine-tuning this 1569 01:16:07,556 --> 01:16:09,615 or an extra year of teacher training 1570 01:16:09,692 --> 01:16:12,389 or teach for America or KIPP or vouchers 1571 01:16:12,461 --> 01:16:14,395 or any of the things, which all of which 1572 01:16:14,463 --> 01:16:16,124 may contribute to the answer 1573 01:16:16,198 --> 01:16:19,168 but none of which alone is going to be the solution. 1574 01:16:19,234 --> 01:16:20,599 - It's the complexity of the problem 1575 01:16:20,669 --> 01:16:22,000 that people get overwhelmed with. 1576 01:16:22,071 --> 01:16:23,596 You know, we could fix it, 1577 01:16:23,672 --> 01:16:28,200 but it requires really being willing to do a lot of things 1578 01:16:28,277 --> 01:16:31,907 pretty close together and change our culture 1579 01:16:31,980 --> 01:16:33,414 in some pretty substantial ways 1580 01:16:33,482 --> 01:16:37,282 and our expectations and put large resources in. 1581 01:16:38,954 --> 01:16:42,254 - There's a school in Wyoming that abolished homework 1582 01:16:42,324 --> 01:16:43,951 after reading the two homework books 1583 01:16:44,026 --> 01:16:45,187 that came out two years ago. 1584 01:16:45,260 --> 01:16:47,092 The elementary school principal just read them. 1585 01:16:47,162 --> 01:16:49,062 She thought, "That makes sense," and she did it. 1586 01:16:49,131 --> 01:16:52,192 She started with a trial period, and then it worked so well 1587 01:16:52,267 --> 01:16:55,862 that she just eliminated homework for K through five. 1588 01:16:55,938 --> 01:16:59,636 So I think that an educator has an ethical responsibility. 1589 01:16:59,708 --> 01:17:02,040 I think a parent has a responsibility 1590 01:17:02,110 --> 01:17:04,875 to really care about the child's physical, 1591 01:17:04,947 --> 01:17:07,348 mental, emotional well-being, 1592 01:17:07,416 --> 01:17:09,475 and so they have to stand up for them, 1593 01:17:09,551 --> 01:17:11,383 'cause they can't stand up for themselves. 1594 01:17:11,453 --> 01:17:12,511 - All over the country, 1595 01:17:12,588 --> 01:17:14,181 there are parents that are fighting this. 1596 01:17:14,256 --> 01:17:17,658 You know, there are schools who have eliminated AP courses. 1597 01:17:17,726 --> 01:17:21,094 1/3 of the colleges in America have now either eliminated 1598 01:17:21,163 --> 01:17:24,497 the SAT or have modified the use of the SAT. 1599 01:17:24,566 --> 01:17:27,001 There are changes going on everywhere. 1600 01:17:27,069 --> 01:17:29,663 - It takes somebody to say, 1601 01:17:29,738 --> 01:17:32,639 "Maybe we'll stop grading the kids, you know?" 1602 01:17:32,708 --> 01:17:34,642 That sounds radical, but in reality, 1603 01:17:34,710 --> 01:17:36,269 if you get rid of grades, 1604 01:17:36,345 --> 01:17:39,440 then you can really start to assess what students know, 1605 01:17:39,515 --> 01:17:41,575 and you can really start to think about education 1606 01:17:41,651 --> 01:17:43,517 as more than just a grade. 1607 01:17:43,586 --> 01:17:45,111 - Why can't there be something like that, 1608 01:17:45,188 --> 01:17:47,520 where you're evaluated by students, teachers, 1609 01:17:47,590 --> 01:17:50,719 the principal, and there's sort of a compilation of sort of 1610 01:17:50,793 --> 01:17:52,625 what you've done and what you've accomplished, 1611 01:17:52,695 --> 01:17:54,322 a portfolio system. 1612 01:17:54,397 --> 01:17:57,890 - You can put as much money as you want into schools, 1613 01:17:57,968 --> 01:18:00,027 but if you don't change the ideology 1614 01:18:00,103 --> 01:18:02,663 of what makes a good educational system, 1615 01:18:02,739 --> 01:18:05,367 what type of individual are we trying to create? 1616 01:18:05,442 --> 01:18:09,345 If you don't prioritize, you know, classes, 1617 01:18:09,412 --> 01:18:11,506 agendas that do character development, 1618 01:18:11,581 --> 01:18:14,107 that give kids free time, unscheduled time, 1619 01:18:14,184 --> 01:18:17,017 if you don't prioritize making cities safe enough 1620 01:18:17,086 --> 01:18:19,214 so that parents can let their kids have unscheduled time 1621 01:18:19,289 --> 01:18:21,314 to roam around in the first place- 1622 01:18:21,391 --> 01:18:23,655 taking the responsibility for raising kids 1623 01:18:23,726 --> 01:18:26,093 out of advertisers' and corporate hands, 1624 01:18:26,162 --> 01:18:28,859 giving parents more time off work. 1625 01:18:28,932 --> 01:18:30,798 It's a social issue. 1626 01:18:30,867 --> 01:18:33,268 - The biggest thing that needs to change is, 1627 01:18:33,336 --> 01:18:35,304 we need to look at kids as individuals, 1628 01:18:35,371 --> 01:18:38,068 and we need to redefine success for kids. 1629 01:18:38,141 --> 01:18:41,975 You know, I have two wonderful, early teenage daughters. 1630 01:18:42,045 --> 01:18:44,275 I got to tell you that I have anxiety sometimes 1631 01:18:44,347 --> 01:18:47,840 because I'm like, "So they're really happy, 1632 01:18:47,917 --> 01:18:50,284 "but are they gonna still get into the good college? 1633 01:18:50,353 --> 01:18:51,514 Am I making a mistake?" 1634 01:18:51,588 --> 01:18:53,215 I'm having trouble with this, 1635 01:18:53,290 --> 01:18:56,726 and I'm writing books on this stuff. 1636 01:18:56,793 --> 01:18:59,160 The reality is that we can create a system 1637 01:18:59,229 --> 01:19:01,857 that will still educate our kids, 1638 01:19:01,931 --> 01:19:04,332 probably educate our kids better, 1639 01:19:04,401 --> 01:19:06,028 without stressing them as much. 1640 01:19:06,102 --> 01:19:08,469 We have to get off this treadmill together. 1641 01:19:08,538 --> 01:19:11,530 We need to really think, "What does it take 1642 01:19:11,608 --> 01:19:18,981 to produce a happy, motivated, creative human being?" 1643 01:19:21,017 --> 01:19:23,008 - I think music is good for anybody. 1644 01:19:23,086 --> 01:19:26,818 Any type of artistic activity is healthy. 1645 01:19:26,890 --> 01:19:30,349 I plan to, like, be a teacher and then, like, 1646 01:19:30,427 --> 01:19:34,830 kind of do this on the side as a hobby. 1647 01:19:34,898 --> 01:19:38,357 - A couple weeks ago, there was a homework-free night 1648 01:19:38,434 --> 01:19:39,902 at Zakary's school, 1649 01:19:39,969 --> 01:19:42,461 and it was like having a different kid on my hands. 1650 01:19:42,539 --> 01:19:45,065 He was excited. He could go out and play. 1651 01:19:45,141 --> 01:19:48,008 And later that night, he commented to me 1652 01:19:48,077 --> 01:19:50,944 that if every day there wasn't homework, 1653 01:19:51,014 --> 01:19:53,574 he would love school. 1654 01:19:53,650 --> 01:19:57,884 - Letting Sam choose to leave Sam Ramon High School, 1655 01:19:57,955 --> 01:19:59,013 it was hard. 1656 01:19:59,089 --> 01:20:00,716 It was harder for me than it was for him. 1657 01:20:00,791 --> 01:20:03,283 He knew he was gonna graduate from high school. 1658 01:20:03,360 --> 01:20:05,522 He knew he was gonna go to community college. 1659 01:20:05,596 --> 01:20:07,963 So he's going now to Venture, 1660 01:20:08,032 --> 01:20:10,330 which is an alternative public school. 1661 01:20:10,401 --> 01:20:14,201 It's self-study, where they meet the teacher once a week. 1662 01:20:14,271 --> 01:20:18,230 I think the fear is there that if they don't take that path, 1663 01:20:18,309 --> 01:20:20,437 they may stray, 1664 01:20:20,511 --> 01:20:24,072 but then sometimes straying is what they need to do. 1665 01:20:24,148 --> 01:20:26,344 - If everything goes wrong, 1666 01:20:26,417 --> 01:20:30,581 there's still something I can do to get where I want to be. 1667 01:20:30,655 --> 01:20:32,885 Learning that took a long time 1668 01:20:32,957 --> 01:20:36,291 and a lot of visits to the hospital, 1669 01:20:36,360 --> 01:20:40,092 a lot of therapy, but it was definitely worth it. 1670 01:20:40,164 --> 01:20:43,156 I'm really happy now not having to worry 1671 01:20:43,234 --> 01:20:44,759 about what other people think of me 1672 01:20:44,835 --> 01:20:47,031 and what kind of success I'm supposed to achieve. 1673 01:20:50,274 --> 01:20:52,174 - I took a couple years off 1674 01:20:52,242 --> 01:20:54,176 after high school before starting college. 1675 01:20:54,245 --> 01:20:56,771 I'm actually applying to college as a freshman this year. 1676 01:20:56,847 --> 01:20:59,373 A lot of my friends were burned out after high school, 1677 01:20:59,450 --> 01:21:00,781 but they went straight to college, 1678 01:21:00,851 --> 01:21:03,218 and I'm finding that a lot of them are dropping out 1679 01:21:03,287 --> 01:21:05,278 to take their time off now. 1680 01:21:05,356 --> 01:21:08,451 - When our son comes home from school now, 1681 01:21:08,526 --> 01:21:10,927 where in the past, we would have said, 1682 01:21:10,995 --> 01:21:12,861 "What homework do you have?" and so on, 1683 01:21:12,930 --> 01:21:16,423 I deliberately ask him, "So how was school?" 1684 01:21:16,500 --> 01:21:18,093 And he'll tell me all the work, and I'll say, 1685 01:21:18,169 --> 01:21:22,003 "What did you have for lunch, and who did you play with?" 1686 01:21:22,073 --> 01:21:27,443 and try to put the focus in an entirely different area, 1687 01:21:27,511 --> 01:21:30,344 because otherwise, it's all about the math test 1688 01:21:30,414 --> 01:21:36,581 and the homework, and we forget about being a kid. 1689 01:23:45,584 --> 01:23:47,416 ♪ - When I was a child ♪ 1690 01:23:47,486 --> 01:23:49,887 ♪ Everybody smiled ♪ 1691 01:23:49,955 --> 01:23:53,687 ♪ Nobody knows me at all ♪ 1692 01:23:53,758 --> 01:23:55,624 ♪ Very late at night ♪ 1693 01:23:55,694 --> 01:23:58,220 ♪ And in the morning light ♪ 1694 01:23:58,296 --> 01:24:01,857 ♪ Nobody knows me at all ♪ 1695 01:24:01,933 --> 01:24:03,958 ♪ Now I got lots of friends ♪ 1696 01:24:04,035 --> 01:24:06,629 ♪ Yes, but then again ♪ 1697 01:24:06,705 --> 01:24:10,232 ♪ Nobody knows me at all ♪ 1698 01:24:10,308 --> 01:24:12,276 ♪ Kids and a wife ♪ 1699 01:24:12,344 --> 01:24:14,972 ♪ It's a beautiful life ♪ 1700 01:24:15,047 --> 01:24:18,415 ♪ Nobody knows me at all ♪ 1701 01:24:18,483 --> 01:24:26,118 ♪ And, oh, ♪ ♪ when the lights are low ♪ 1702 01:24:26,192 --> 01:24:29,321 ♪ Oh ♪ 1703 01:24:29,395 --> 01:24:35,129 ♪ With someone I don't know, ♪ ♪ oh ♪ 1704 01:24:35,201 --> 01:24:36,999 ♪ I don't give a damn ♪ 1705 01:24:37,070 --> 01:24:39,801 ♪ I'm happy as a clam ♪ 1706 01:24:39,872 --> 01:24:43,775 ♪ Nobody knows me at all ♪ 1707 01:24:43,843 --> 01:24:45,106 ♪ Ah, what can you do ♪ 1708 01:24:45,178 --> 01:24:48,079 ♪ There's nobody like you ♪ 1709 01:24:48,147 --> 01:24:52,277 ♪ Nobody knows me at all ♪ 1710 01:25:08,568 --> 01:25:10,366 ♪ I know how you feel ♪ 1711 01:25:10,436 --> 01:25:12,996 ♪ No secrets to reveal ♪ 1712 01:25:13,072 --> 01:25:16,736 ♪ Nobody knows me at all ♪ 1713 01:25:16,809 --> 01:25:18,538 ♪ Very late at night ♪ 1714 01:25:18,611 --> 01:25:21,205 ♪ And in the morning light ♪ 1715 01:25:21,280 --> 01:25:25,410 ♪ Nobody knows me at all ♪ 1716 01:25:25,485 --> 01:25:27,385 ♪ Nobody knows me ♪ 1717 01:25:27,453 --> 01:25:29,649 ♪ Nobody knows me ♪ 1718 01:25:29,722 --> 01:25:31,918 ♪ Nobody knows me at all ♪ 132397

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