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- I can't really remember
the last time I had a chance
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to go out in the backyard
and just run around.
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- School's just so much pressure
that every day, I would wake up,
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and I would wake up dreading it.
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- There's definitely been times
when I've sat doing my homework,
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you know, and then
just started crying.
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- Not eating made me
have more energy,
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and I could get
so much stuff done at night,
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but it still was not enough time
to get everything done.
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- My mom checked me
into a stress center.
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- You think
you know your children.
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I thought I knew my little girl.
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- We definitely, at college,
we still do whatever it takes
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to get the A,
Just like in high school.
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- Things that actually
get our students to think
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are pushed aside.
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- How come no one's insisting
that it change?
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♪ - When I was a child ♪
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♪ Everybody smiled ♪
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♪ Nobody knows me at all ♪
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♪ Very late at night ♪
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♪ And in the morning light ♪
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♪ Nobody knows me at all ♪
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♪ I got lots of friends ♪
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♪ Yes, but then again ♪
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♪ Nobody knows me at all ♪
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♪ Very late at night ♪
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♪ And in the morning light ♪
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♪ Nobody knows me at all ♪
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♪ And, oh, ♪
♪ when the lights are low ♪
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♪ Oh ♪
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♪ With someone I don't know, ♪
♪ oh ♪
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♪ I know how you feel ♪
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♪ No secrets to reveal ♪
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♪ Nobody knows me at all ♪
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♪ Nobody knows me ♪
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♪ Nobody knows me ♪
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♪ Nobody knows me at all ♪
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- I came from a family
where my parents were divorced.
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My mother
was a single parent
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raising four kids
on very little income.
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That drove me
to work really hard
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so that I could be independent.
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My mom taught me
from a very young age
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that an education
was something
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that would help you
go far in life,
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and it was something that
couldn't be taken away from you.
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"Good night, moon.
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Good night,
cow jumping over the moon."
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When I had kids, I wanted
to be a really good mom.
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- Dada.
- Yes, Shelby?
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- Dada.
- Yes.
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- I wanted to provide my kids
with the security
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of a stable family,
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and I wanted my kids
to have a good education.
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I wanted to give them
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the opportunities
that I didn't have growing up.
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So what do you think?
- It was fun.
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- Was it good?
- Yes.
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- I also really wanted
to have time together.
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- Everybody wave.
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What are you growing this year?
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- Corn.
- Corn? What else?
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Pumpkins?
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- To the sky.
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- And that worked out well
for a few years,
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but as my kids got older
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and the pressures on them
from school were greater
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and the time commitment
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for extra-curricular
activities increased,
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it became much more complicated.
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- Zakary.
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Let's go.
Let's go. Here.
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- I didn't think when I had kids
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that the only time
I would see them
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was for 20 minutes at dinner.
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In all three of my kids,
I started to see the toll
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that the schedule and the stress
was taking on them.
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Our oldest daughter
looks like all is fine.
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She's doing really well
in school,
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but she doesn't have time
to sleep at night
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or to hang out with friends.
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For Jamey,
when she started seventh grade,
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the workload really increased.
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No matter how much time
she spent doing homework,
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she wasn't getting the grades
that she expected.
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In Zakary's case,
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when he started
fourth grade this year,
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the homework level increased.
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Every evening became
a battle around homework.
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Right now?
- Yeah.
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- Well, you need help
'cause you weren't doing it.
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- No, I didn't!
- Let him do it himself.
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- Do your-do it.
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- All three of my kids started
complaining about headaches
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from school or stomachaches,
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or they would wake up
in the middle of the night
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worried about a test
the next day,
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and I didn't really know
how seriously to take it.
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At that same time,
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a 13-year-old girl in
my community committed suicide.
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She was the exact same age
as my oldest daughter.
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When something
like that happens,
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you can't help but start
worrying about your own kids.
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I started checking
more often on them.
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There was a night where
I found my daughter out of bed,
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doubled over in pain.
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Doug and I took her
to the emergency room,
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and after a series of tests,
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the doctors concluded that her
condition was stress-induced.
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I wanted to understand
what was going on.
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I started talking to parents
in my community, to students,
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to experts, and visiting schools
across the country.
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I was determined to find out
how we had gotten to a place
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where our family
had so little time together,
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where our kids
were physically sick
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because of the pressures
they were under,
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and where a 13-year-old girl
had taken her life.
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- These kids are so
overscheduled and tired.
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We are always looking
at the next step,
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and this is what the kids say.
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They say, "In elementary school,
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I was worried
about high school."
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We've stolen 11th
and 12th grade from them.
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I'm afraid that our children
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are going to sue us
for stealing their childhoods.
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- We're a New York City suburb,
high-powered parents,
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who are very competitive
themselves, many of them,
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and, you know, and they'll go
to parties and things,
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and they want to be able
to talk about their kid
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is going to be going to Harvard
or the equivalent,
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and I worry.
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What happens when their kid
is not going in that direction?
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- You have a system
that is trying
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to further robot-icize students,
mechanize them, if you will,
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to be, you know,
these academic competitors,
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these producers.
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The very nature of it in itself
is very dehumanizing.
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- I put so much pressure
on myself.
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- I definitely felt a lot of
pressure to have perfect grades.
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- The stress definitely
first comes from home.
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- Because my mother
wasn't able to graduate,
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she puts extra pressure on us.
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- You need to have
the best grades.
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You need to be able
to afford the college.
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- My family is low-income,
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so there's no way I could afford
college without financial aid.
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- Until senior year,
I haven't had any free periods.
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I haven't had lunch periods.
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- I didn't want to take out
loans, not for my family.
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- When I was in middle school,
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I would sometimes stay up
till 1:00 in the morning.
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- I would spend
six hours a night,
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at least, on my homework.
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- It's not just your homework.
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- I have soccer practice
every day from, like,
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after school to 6:00,
and then from 6:00 to 8:00,
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I have my
outside-of-school practice.
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- We're in so many
different clubs.
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- Now it's all about
preparing yourself
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to look good for colleges.
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- High school is about
learning how to pass tests.
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- You try to stuff
as much information
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into your brain as possible,
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then as soon as you're
done with it, out it goes.
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- You start out in,
like, kindergarten.
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- You have to get into
the top schools.
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- You have to take tests
and do interviews
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to get into public high schools.
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- And then AP,
and then a four-year college.
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- If I don't get into college,
you know,
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my mind-set is basically, like,
you know, I'm screwed.
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- And then graduate school.
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- Now, how are you
gonna get into
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a top-tier medical school
or law school?
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- And then what?
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People get caught up in this,
like, race to nowhere.
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- I'm Jessica Vaughn,
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and I'm a senior.
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I just wanted
to put it out there
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to parents and teachers
that the worst question
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you can ask your child
in high school is, "And?"
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Like, they'll say,
"I'm in three AF' classes."
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"And?"
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"Well, I do sports."
"And?"
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"Well, I work at the theater."
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"And?
Well, what else are you doing?"
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"I'm in three clubs."
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"Well, you know what
looks really good?
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"Community service.
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"They're looking for all of this
on college applications.
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Why aren't you doing this,
this, and this?"
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And I find that that question
comes up all the time.
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Everyone expects us
to be superheroes.
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We need to be doing more.
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Why aren't we doing more
for our community?
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We need to be doing more.
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Why aren't you
working harder in school?
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And I think sometimes parents
need to just step back and say,
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"You know what?
You've done a really good job."
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- Some of the pressure
that is out there is real.
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If you want to have
the same opportunities
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that your parents had,
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to attend those kinds of schools
and all, you have to do more.
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You have to have
better test scores.
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You have to have better grades.
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You have to have
more activities.
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So there is definitely
some part of the pressure
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that's created
by the demographic.
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- I can't help it,
I mean, you know,
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when you start
their freshman year
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and you go to the orientation
at the high school
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and all they talk about
is what is necessary
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to get into college.
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People are raising their hands
and asking about AP courses and,
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"How do you get into UC?"
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I mean, you look around,
and you think,
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"I guess this is what
everybody's gonna be doing."
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- I think if you ask them,
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they'd probably say that we
did pressure them in some way,
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because we did want them
to have a choice.
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That was my, you know,
feeling as a parent,
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that the better you do,
the more choices that you have.
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- I want them to be able to do
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what I wasn't able
to accomplish.
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Me, as a young parent
having four kids,
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I wasn't able
to go back to school
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and get myself an education,
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and so I want them
to have the things
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that I never was able to have.
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- Even though we know better,
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even though we know we shouldn't
be pushing our kids,
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inadvertently, we are, you know?
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I'm just as guilty of saying
to my daughters
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when they get in the car,
"So how was school today?
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"Did you get your test back?
Do you have any homework?
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"How much homework do you have?
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How are you gonna study
for that test?"
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Because I am also feeling
the pressure
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that they need to work really,
really hard.
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- We want the best for them,
but that, in the end,
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is causing us
to put pressure on them
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to be whatever we think
they ought to be.
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Even though we send them
to all these sports camps
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and all their private lessons
and the tutors and the-
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we would drop anything
any time for our kids,
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but in my mind,
it's gone way to the extreme.
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- We're all caught up in it.
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We're all afraid
that our children
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won't be able to be
as successful as we are.
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- And so you have a fear
from the parents that,
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"My kid needs to be able
to get a job.
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"Okay, I got 'em
in the accelerated program.
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"That's the first step,
but now they need to perform
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and compete so they can
get into a 'good school, “
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And it's out of love.
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It's out concern.
It's out of fear.
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It's out of all these things
that parents normally have,
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but it ends up turning kids
into little professionals.
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All: I Oh, light the candles I
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I All around the world I
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I Let them shine I
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I Let them shine I
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I Oh, let them shine I
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- We live in a society today
where, like,
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oh, you have to be smart,
but also, you have to be pretty,
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and also, you have to,
you know, do sports,
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and you have to be involved
in the arts,
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and amongst all that,
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you have to find something
unique about yourself,
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and you have to know yourself,
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because if you don't
know yourself
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before you do all of that,
you're gonna lose yourself.
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- I have grown up
in Oakland, California.
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I'm 19 years old.
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I went to a private school
starting in kindergarten.
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It was a very competitive,
small school.
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A lot of homework started
probably around fifth grade,
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but middle school started about
an hour per class a night.
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I participated in soccer,
took tennis lessons,
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went to Hebrew school
three times a week,
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plus the homework
on top of that.
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It was a very hectic schedule.
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Home life in middle school
was difficult.
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It was the time when my parents
and I had the biggest fights.
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I was expected
to get straight A's.
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I had so much homework.
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They would want to know
when I had tests
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and tell me to study for them,
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and I wouldn't want them to know
anything about my school life.
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I figured out that not eating
made me have more energy.
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I would stay up later.
It gave me insomnia.
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So I wouldn't sleep at night.
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I could get
so much stuff done at night,
295
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but it still was not enough time
to get everything done.
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In tenth grade,
my anorexia flared up.
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I had so much homework
in tenth grade,
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so many papers,
so many projects.
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I would stay up all night.
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I remember coming up
to my history teacher
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the day my history final
was due.
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I came up to him crying.
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I had a huge coffee in my hand,
and I was sobbing,
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and about ten other people
did too.
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I got very sleep-deprived.
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When you are sleep deprived,
your concentration is off.
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Instead of taking notes
and remembering everything,
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you're kind of just
staring off into space.
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I was sent to a facility for
eating disorders specifically.
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I was admitted
to a medical hospital twice.
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When I returned to school
in 11th grade,
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my weight had plummeted.
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The workload had increased,
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and the head of the school
told me
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she did not want me coming back,
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because she could not have
students and teachers
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worrying about me.
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I was too much of a distraction.
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Another high school was really
hard to go into senior year,
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so I took my G.E.D.
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Good boy.
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- The common force
that drives kids
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towards so many negative
behaviors is stress.
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It's coming from schools.
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It's coming from colleges,
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and it's coming from
all the places
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that it's always come
from during adolescence.
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Don't forget,
adolescence is a tough time.
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You know, you worry
about what you look like,
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what you feel like,
what you act like to your peers.
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The media tells you exactly
what you're supposed to buy
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to be acceptable,
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what you're supposed
to look like
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and how you're supposed to think
to be acceptable,
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and you're trying to answer
this fundamental question
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of adolescence,
which is, "Who am I?"
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- I think it's captured by this
girl that came into my office.
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She's got all the great
social skills,
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but she's wearing
a cutter T-shirt.
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That's a T-shirt
that's pulled low over the wrist
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to hide cutting.
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And by the end of the session,
she sort of pulls it back,
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and that morning,
she had taken a razor
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and incised the word "empty"
into her forearm.
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And she's emblematic, to me,
of the kinds of kids
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that I'm seeing more
and more frequently,
347
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and that's kids who look
terrific on the outside,
348
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terrific presentation,
but you roll up their sleeve,
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and metaphorically,
and in her case, literally,
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they're bleeding underneath.
351
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- When success is defined
by high grades, test scores,
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trophies, we know that we end up
with unprepared, disengaged,
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exhausted,
and ultimately unhealthy kids.
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- I've gone through bouts
of depression,
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just because
you feel so swamped.
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There's so much work.
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It feels like there's piles
and piles of work to be done,
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and it's all kept in your head,
359
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and you don't know
how to sort through it all,
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and you don't ever think
you're ever gonna get it done.
361
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- Sometimes
when I get stressed out,
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I feel a little sick.
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Like, I actually get headaches.
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- Usually when stress
gets really bad,
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I get a lot of stomachaches.
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- I think it was in November
where I almost, like,
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had an emotional breakdown,
because at the end of November,
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that was when UC's application
was due, November 30th,
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and I was also applying
for a scholarship.
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I wasn't eating.
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I wasn't even
taking care of myself.
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You care so much
about getting in,
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about making people proud of you
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and living up
to that expectation
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and that standard that, like,
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you start neglecting yourself,
your health.
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Everything gets focused
on that piece of application
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that you're putting in
for people who never meet you.
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- I was really stressed, and I-
all my joints swelled.
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- In sixth grade last year,
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I had a lot of homework
one night,
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and it got really late,
so my mom told me to go to bed,
383
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but I thought my teachers
would get really mad at me
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if I didn't finish my homework,
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so I woke up in the middle of
the night to finish my homework.
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- These kids are growing.
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They need 9 to 11 hours of sleep
in elementary school.
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The high school kids
are still growing.
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Some of them
get six hours of sleep
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because they're taking
six AP classes.
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It is a form of neglect
of the children
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that they don't
get enough sleep.
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- I visited a high school once
that had a drug problem.
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Well, I assumed
it was recreational drugs
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like I knew about in my youth,
396
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but no, I'm talking about
stimulants and things like that
397
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that help you stay up all night
398
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or tranquilizers
that help you come down
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after you've been taking
too many stimulants.
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Those are the kinds of problems
that we're seeing on the rise.
401
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- I took Adderall my first time
as a junior.
402
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I knew a lot of people
that took it,
403
00:18:49,291 --> 00:18:51,055
and I would ask them for it
every once in a while.
404
00:18:51,127 --> 00:18:52,561
It seems like everyone
has ADD now,
405
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so most anyone you talk to knows
someone that takes medicine.
406
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I was a really well-rounded
person in high school,
407
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and it's hard to be the
vice president of your class,
408
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play on the soccer team,
and do homework.
409
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It made me feel focused
and almost better,
410
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because, "Look, I can keep up
with everyone now.
411
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I come to school,
and my homework's done."
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My senior year, I started
doing it a little more,
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'cause it was easier to get;
all of a sudden, my-
414
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I couldn't breathe as well,
415
00:19:24,427 --> 00:19:25,986
and it was hard
to catch my breath,
416
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and I'd be trying to breathe,
and it was scary.
417
00:19:29,298 --> 00:19:31,266
Like, I'd be sitting there
trying to catch my breath.
418
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I couldn't fall asleep at night.
419
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- I've often wondered.
I mean, why am I doing this?
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I'm doing this so I can go
to college and get a job I like,
421
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ultimately so I can be happy,
but if I'm not healthy,
422
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then none of that
really matters.
423
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Why am I-it just doesn't
really seem to add up.
424
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- We do have a sense that both
depression and anxiety
425
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are rising among adolescents,
426
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and if we're seeing it
in childhood, you know,
427
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if we're seeing the stomachaches
and the headaches
428
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that clearly are related
to stress in childhood,
429
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then what do you think they're
seeing in adulthood?
430
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You know, this translates
into the same stomachaches
431
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and the same chest pains,
432
00:20:09,973 --> 00:20:11,805
but it also translates
into high blood pressure
433
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and heart disease,
434
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and all of the other
manifestations of stress.
435
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- We do an awful lot of talking
about kids who are stressed
436
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and are working too hard,
437
00:20:21,818 --> 00:20:25,311
but we sort of forget that there
are just as many, if not more,
438
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kids who have taken a look
at this crazy system and said,
439
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"I'm not interested in this."
440
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I think we lose boys
in particular,
441
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because boys tend to act out,
and we lose girls to depression.
442
00:20:42,906 --> 00:20:44,670
- Ever since middle school,
basically,
443
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I've felt bad about school,
444
00:20:46,843 --> 00:20:50,074
because I don't like
to disappoint people.
445
00:20:50,147 --> 00:20:52,616
You feel bad about yourself.
You feel guilty.
446
00:20:52,683 --> 00:20:54,117
You stay up at night.
447
00:20:54,184 --> 00:20:57,119
I remember this all too clearly
about not doing homework
448
00:20:57,187 --> 00:20:59,781
and coming home from school
and being like, "I'm sorry, Mom.
449
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I didn't do homework,"
And I would cry.
450
00:21:02,159 --> 00:21:04,093
- I felt basically
like a prison guard,
451
00:21:04,161 --> 00:21:06,220
that I had to constantly
be asking,
452
00:21:06,296 --> 00:21:07,525
"Did you do your homework?
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Are you done
with your homework?"
454
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I personally felt
a lot of anxiety
455
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about what they
were supposed to be doing.
456
00:21:13,937 --> 00:21:18,704
Sam had trouble with school,
really, from the very beginning.
457
00:21:18,775 --> 00:21:20,368
He struggled through
elementary school,
458
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and he also struggled
through middle school.
459
00:21:23,513 --> 00:21:26,073
He always was
at grade level or above,
460
00:21:26,149 --> 00:21:31,588
but I think the struggle
was always just the homework.
461
00:21:31,655 --> 00:21:33,749
- Last year was gonna be
my redemption year.
462
00:21:33,824 --> 00:21:35,485
I took a bunch of hard classes,
and I was like,
463
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"I'm gonna pass
all these classes."
464
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- And so we would
have heart-to-hearts
465
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at the beginning of every year,
466
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at the beginning
of every semester.
467
00:21:42,966 --> 00:21:44,297
"I'm gonna work harder
this time.
468
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I'm gonna do it.
I promise."
469
00:21:46,236 --> 00:21:48,534
- Halfway through the year,
I was like, "This is ridiculous.
470
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Like, no student should
be put through this much work,"
471
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and I dropped
some of the classes.
472
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Really, the only thing
that kept me in high school
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was the sport wrestling,
because I've been wrestling
474
00:21:59,783 --> 00:22:02,684
since my freshman year,
and I just fell in love with it.
475
00:22:08,458 --> 00:22:09,892
Wrestling was
a very intense sport.
476
00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:12,452
Like, last year,
l weighed 160,
477
00:22:12,530 --> 00:22:14,294
and I cut down to 145 pounds,
478
00:22:14,365 --> 00:22:16,834
but that means, every day,
you're starving.
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Every day after practice,
you don't get to drink.
480
00:22:19,103 --> 00:22:21,197
You stand on the scale, and
you're looking at the number,
481
00:22:21,272 --> 00:22:22,603
and you're like,
"Do I get to drink?
482
00:22:22,674 --> 00:22:24,301
Do I get to have
a piece of lettuce tonight?"
483
00:22:24,375 --> 00:22:25,638
The school is like,
484
00:22:25,710 --> 00:22:28,111
"You're dedicating
your whole life to your grades."
485
00:22:28,179 --> 00:22:29,408
And then the sport is like,
486
00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:31,949
"No, you're dedicating
your whole life to us."
487
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- I started to understand
more and more
488
00:22:34,218 --> 00:22:36,516
what was actually
going on with him and that,
489
00:22:36,587 --> 00:22:38,749
you know, it just wasn't
physically possible
490
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for him to do the work.
491
00:22:40,124 --> 00:22:41,387
Not that he wasn't
bright enough.
492
00:22:41,459 --> 00:22:42,949
It's just-that type of work,
493
00:22:43,027 --> 00:22:45,894
hours and hours of sitting still
just wasn't gonna work for him.
494
00:22:45,963 --> 00:22:49,365
- I have school for seven hours.
I get out of school at 3:10.
495
00:22:49,434 --> 00:22:53,462
I go to my sport until probably,
generally around 7:00.
496
00:22:53,538 --> 00:22:56,508
I come home tired,
wanting to go to sleep,
497
00:22:56,574 --> 00:22:58,235
and then I got to stay up
till 12:00 or 1:00
498
00:22:58,309 --> 00:23:01,609
to finish all my homework
and then wake up the next day
499
00:23:01,679 --> 00:23:03,545
and do it all over again.
500
00:23:03,614 --> 00:23:05,480
Yeah, eventually,
school was so bad
501
00:23:05,550 --> 00:23:08,383
that the negatives
outweighed the positives
502
00:23:08,453 --> 00:23:10,012
of being at the school
just to wrestle,
503
00:23:10,088 --> 00:23:11,317
and I couldn't do it anymore,
504
00:23:11,389 --> 00:23:14,916
so I left that school,
and I left the sports team.
505
00:23:17,662 --> 00:23:18,993
- When you have students
506
00:23:19,063 --> 00:23:22,089
that just have three hours
of homework,
507
00:23:22,166 --> 00:23:25,898
four hours of homework after
soccer practice or after work,
508
00:23:25,970 --> 00:23:28,337
and they're gonna have that
every night,
509
00:23:28,406 --> 00:23:31,398
and they have weekend homework,
and it's all-
510
00:23:31,476 --> 00:23:36,744
their whole future
is on the line at that moment,
511
00:23:36,814 --> 00:23:39,647
it's no longer about learning.
512
00:23:39,717 --> 00:23:44,587
- Jamey has always been
such a lighthearted,
513
00:23:44,655 --> 00:23:47,681
fun kid with
a great sense of humor.
514
00:23:47,759 --> 00:23:51,593
She always loved school
up until fifth grade.
515
00:23:51,662 --> 00:23:54,393
- The last time I was
really excited to go to school
516
00:23:54,465 --> 00:23:56,957
and excited about learning
was in fourth grade.
517
00:23:57,035 --> 00:23:59,231
When we got to middle school,
518
00:23:59,303 --> 00:24:02,466
I think expectations
changed a lot.
519
00:24:02,540 --> 00:24:05,100
- In sixth grade,
the workload increased.
520
00:24:05,176 --> 00:24:07,645
She would come home
to hours of homework.
521
00:24:07,712 --> 00:24:11,615
I started noticing
that she was really, you know,
522
00:24:11,683 --> 00:24:14,516
a duck trying to paddle
as quickly as she could
523
00:24:14,585 --> 00:24:16,144
to keep her head
above the water,
524
00:24:16,220 --> 00:24:19,850
and she wasn't
having a really easy time.
525
00:24:19,924 --> 00:24:21,221
- It's ironic,
526
00:24:21,292 --> 00:24:23,351
and here's the thing
that not everybody understands.
527
00:24:23,428 --> 00:24:25,693
The countries
that outperform us,
528
00:24:25,764 --> 00:24:28,028
many of them,
on the international tests,
529
00:24:28,100 --> 00:24:31,434
actually give less homework than
we do here in the United States.
530
00:24:31,503 --> 00:24:36,270
There's almost no correlation
between academic achievement
531
00:24:36,341 --> 00:24:38,742
in elementary school
and homework.
532
00:24:38,811 --> 00:24:41,678
When you get to middle school,
there's a slight correlation,
533
00:24:41,747 --> 00:24:43,772
but anything
that you're doing after an hour,
534
00:24:43,849 --> 00:24:46,011
pretty much,
that correlation fades.
535
00:24:46,085 --> 00:24:47,416
And in high school,
there is a link,
536
00:24:47,486 --> 00:24:50,148
but really, we see a fallout
after two hours.
537
00:24:50,222 --> 00:24:52,384
So you have to look at
the options of homework and say,
538
00:24:52,458 --> 00:24:54,119
"What is developmentally
appropriate?
539
00:24:54,193 --> 00:24:55,217
"What can these kids handle?
540
00:24:55,294 --> 00:24:56,693
"And what is the purpose
of homework?
541
00:24:56,762 --> 00:24:58,526
Why are we doing it
in the first place?"
542
00:24:58,597 --> 00:25:00,725
We have parents who do their
homework for their kids.
543
00:25:00,799 --> 00:25:02,665
We have parents who edit
their kids' homework.
544
00:25:02,735 --> 00:25:04,601
We have parents who correct
their kids' homework.
545
00:25:04,670 --> 00:25:07,401
If the teacher is using homework
as a gauge for understanding,
546
00:25:07,473 --> 00:25:08,872
that's not gonna work.
547
00:25:08,941 --> 00:25:10,409
- I know you had a Japan quiz,
548
00:25:10,476 --> 00:25:14,344
'cause you made me quiz you
last night, so we know that's-
549
00:25:14,413 --> 00:25:18,748
a large part of our time every
evening is trying to manage
550
00:25:18,817 --> 00:25:21,445
all three kids
getting their homework done.
551
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:22,851
That's the question every night.
552
00:25:24,390 --> 00:25:27,416
- So you do-finish this one
and do your math page,
553
00:25:27,493 --> 00:25:28,756
and then that'll leave you-
554
00:25:28,827 --> 00:25:29,919
- And last night, you know,
555
00:25:29,995 --> 00:25:31,724
my wife had to leave
for a couple hours,
556
00:25:31,797 --> 00:25:34,858
and my youngest was supposed
to be doing homework,
557
00:25:34,933 --> 00:25:38,597
and I wasn't quite aware of it,
and so when she came home,
558
00:25:38,670 --> 00:25:41,731
she asked him if he had done
his homework, and he hadn't,
559
00:25:41,807 --> 00:25:43,673
and so immediately, I mean,
560
00:25:43,742 --> 00:25:45,369
the minute she walked
in the door,
561
00:25:45,444 --> 00:25:47,708
we were having to discuss
562
00:25:47,780 --> 00:25:49,748
whether he did
his homework or not.
563
00:25:49,815 --> 00:25:51,283
You know, I get pulled into it.
564
00:25:51,350 --> 00:25:54,752
I should have been aware
and maybe applying the pressure
565
00:25:54,820 --> 00:25:56,652
for him to have done it
and done it well,
566
00:25:56,722 --> 00:26:00,056
and we ended the evening
with some turmoil about-
567
00:26:00,125 --> 00:26:01,559
surrounding homework.
568
00:26:01,627 --> 00:26:05,154
- This is what you do is,
you have a mock one that you-
569
00:26:05,230 --> 00:26:09,667
- At what point did it become
okay for schools to dictate
570
00:26:09,735 --> 00:26:13,763
how students live their lives
once the bell rings?
571
00:26:13,839 --> 00:26:15,807
Because that's sort
of a private time.
572
00:26:15,874 --> 00:26:17,171
That's family time.
573
00:26:17,242 --> 00:26:19,438
There's some weird,
interesting,
574
00:26:19,511 --> 00:26:22,674
like, molecular
communication here.
575
00:26:22,748 --> 00:26:25,445
When I first started
teaching AP biology,
576
00:26:25,517 --> 00:26:29,954
the first thing I did was,
I cut the homework load in half,
577
00:26:30,022 --> 00:26:32,081
and what happened
to the AP scores?
578
00:26:32,157 --> 00:26:33,090
They went up.
579
00:26:33,158 --> 00:26:35,183
Now, that's very telling.
580
00:26:35,260 --> 00:26:37,991
When you cut homework in half
and AP scores improve,
581
00:26:38,063 --> 00:26:40,362
what's the value
of the homework?
582
00:26:40,433 --> 00:26:42,959
- So there's a couple of things
that drive homework
583
00:26:43,036 --> 00:26:44,333
at different grade levels.
584
00:26:44,404 --> 00:26:47,066
There are the standards,
and literally,
585
00:26:47,140 --> 00:26:50,132
there is so much content
to teach that the teachers feel
586
00:26:50,210 --> 00:26:52,110
that they have to then
load up the homework
587
00:26:52,178 --> 00:26:53,646
to try and get
that content across.
588
00:26:53,713 --> 00:26:55,238
Parents expect homework.
589
00:26:55,315 --> 00:26:57,909
It's going to seem like you're
not doing your job as a teacher
590
00:26:57,984 --> 00:27:00,282
if you say, "No homework today."
591
00:27:00,353 --> 00:27:02,321
Parents need
to educate themselves
592
00:27:02,389 --> 00:27:04,824
about the fact that homework
593
00:27:04,891 --> 00:27:07,986
is not going
to make their kids any smarter.
594
00:27:09,396 --> 00:27:11,763
The schools have our kids
for seven hours a day.
595
00:27:11,831 --> 00:27:14,766
That should be plenty for them
to impart the kind of knowledge
596
00:27:14,834 --> 00:27:15,767
that they want to do,
597
00:27:15,835 --> 00:27:17,166
and then the kids
should go home,
598
00:27:17,237 --> 00:27:20,798
and there's so much more
to a child's life
599
00:27:20,874 --> 00:27:23,275
than just what's going on
in school.
600
00:27:26,246 --> 00:27:28,738
There was kind of
a real lull period in homework
601
00:27:28,815 --> 00:27:32,251
that went from the 1900s
almost up to the 1950s,
602
00:27:32,318 --> 00:27:36,255
and at the same time,
the labor laws were changing.
603
00:27:36,323 --> 00:27:39,315
Those two things
went together very nicely,
604
00:27:39,392 --> 00:27:43,056
and kids started to have
more of a childhood.
605
00:27:43,129 --> 00:27:45,860
And then there was Sputnik,
and all of a sudden,
606
00:27:45,932 --> 00:27:50,028
we were falling behind
in the space race.
607
00:27:50,103 --> 00:27:53,232
And then it kind of faded out
again, which makes sense,
608
00:27:53,306 --> 00:27:55,400
because when you think about
what this country was like
609
00:27:55,475 --> 00:27:57,500
in the late '60s and early '70s,
610
00:27:57,577 --> 00:28:01,013
it was much more
of a free-thinking time
611
00:28:01,081 --> 00:28:03,709
and a big change
of social ideas.
612
00:28:03,783 --> 00:28:07,515
The upswing in homework has
been going on since about 1983
613
00:28:07,587 --> 00:28:10,682
with A Nation at Risk,
but I think the level got upped
614
00:28:10,757 --> 00:28:15,991
after the passage in 2002
of No Child Left Behind.
615
00:28:16,062 --> 00:28:18,429
- So the principle behind
the No Child Left Behind Act
616
00:28:18,498 --> 00:28:21,297
is to set high standards,
believe every child can learn,
617
00:28:21,368 --> 00:28:23,462
and measure to see
if we're getting results.
618
00:28:29,576 --> 00:28:31,635
- This overwhelming feeling
came down
619
00:28:31,711 --> 00:28:34,180
from the federal government,
from the state saying,
620
00:28:34,247 --> 00:28:36,773
"No, no, no, we need to push
our kids academically,
621
00:28:36,850 --> 00:28:38,841
because we're not competing
with other countries."
622
00:28:38,918 --> 00:28:40,545
So all of a sudden,
they're being forced
623
00:28:40,620 --> 00:28:43,612
into this one mold
that we never, ever had had.
624
00:28:43,690 --> 00:28:48,025
- Our students don't do well
compared to many other nations,
625
00:28:48,094 --> 00:28:49,823
particularly in science
and math,
626
00:28:49,896 --> 00:28:52,366
primarily because the way
we teach science and math
627
00:28:52,433 --> 00:28:54,765
is to prepare for the test.
628
00:28:54,835 --> 00:28:58,100
- When American students
encounter questions
629
00:28:58,172 --> 00:29:00,607
that are not just like what
they've seen in their class,
630
00:29:00,675 --> 00:29:05,010
they fall apart, partly because
the strategy for teaching math
631
00:29:05,079 --> 00:29:08,105
in the United States
tends to be more formulaic.
632
00:29:08,182 --> 00:29:12,517
- So Wilson's 14 Points
offered these groups
633
00:29:12,586 --> 00:29:15,078
the premise
of self-determination.
634
00:29:15,156 --> 00:29:16,590
When you did the review sheet,
635
00:29:16,657 --> 00:29:17,988
this is something
that was on there
636
00:29:18,059 --> 00:29:19,049
that I just gave the answer,
637
00:29:19,126 --> 00:29:20,787
but this is gonna be
on your test,
638
00:29:20,861 --> 00:29:22,158
so you should know about it.
639
00:29:22,229 --> 00:29:25,563
- No Child Left Behind,
what we know is,
640
00:29:25,633 --> 00:29:27,294
the measures
don't necessarily measure
641
00:29:27,368 --> 00:29:28,699
what they're supposed
to measure.
642
00:29:28,769 --> 00:29:33,366
It becomes literally
just drowning in content,
643
00:29:33,441 --> 00:29:35,842
and the teachers are cutting out
things that they know
644
00:29:35,910 --> 00:29:38,402
to be very developmentally
appropriate or very successful,
645
00:29:38,479 --> 00:29:39,605
like project-based learning.
646
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:40,977
Wonderful projects,
647
00:29:41,048 --> 00:29:43,380
we no longer teach them,
because they're not on the test,
648
00:29:43,451 --> 00:29:46,216
and everything becomes
about the tests.
649
00:29:46,287 --> 00:29:50,246
- We're told, "Either you do it,
or you don't have a job,"
650
00:29:50,324 --> 00:29:54,591
And we've just kind of gone
with the flow, because our job,
651
00:29:54,662 --> 00:29:57,563
our bonus money was based
on our test scores.
652
00:29:57,631 --> 00:30:01,033
If your kids did well, you got
bonus money from the state.
653
00:30:01,102 --> 00:30:03,070
Well, you know,
everybody pushes,
654
00:30:03,137 --> 00:30:04,502
because it means a bonus check.
655
00:30:14,482 --> 00:30:16,883
- One of the craziest things
about No Child Left Behind is,
656
00:30:16,951 --> 00:30:19,443
like, so your school's
doing a bad job,
657
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,181
so we're gonna give you
less funding
658
00:30:21,255 --> 00:30:23,155
and less time and less support.
659
00:30:23,224 --> 00:30:26,387
So these fairies are arguing,
and all of a sudden,
660
00:30:26,460 --> 00:30:29,293
winter's turning into spring,
and spring's turning hotter,
661
00:30:29,363 --> 00:30:32,594
and so what does that tell us
about those two?
662
00:30:32,667 --> 00:30:34,635
Ah, they're sort of powerful,
right?
663
00:30:34,702 --> 00:30:36,602
These fairies have some power.
664
00:30:36,671 --> 00:30:39,971
I grew up in the Bay Area.
My dad was born and raised here.
665
00:30:40,041 --> 00:30:44,239
So I feel very tied to Oakland.
I always knew I wanted to teach.
666
00:30:44,312 --> 00:30:47,338
I went to graduate school.
I found a program at UC Berkley.
667
00:30:47,415 --> 00:30:49,816
You get your masters
and credential at the same time
668
00:30:49,884 --> 00:30:52,478
in two years,
so l joined that program.
669
00:30:52,553 --> 00:30:54,043
This was the school
that hired me.
670
00:30:54,121 --> 00:30:56,852
I just really dove right in
and loved it.
671
00:30:56,924 --> 00:30:59,018
I wanted to teach
social justice,
672
00:30:59,093 --> 00:31:01,619
and I wanted
to really change the system
673
00:31:01,696 --> 00:31:03,391
and change these kids' lives
674
00:31:03,464 --> 00:31:06,730
and get them to see learning
as a lifetime skill
675
00:31:06,802 --> 00:31:10,363
that's important for them
to move out of their
676
00:31:10,439 --> 00:31:12,737
sort of socioeconomic strata,
677
00:31:12,808 --> 00:31:15,368
and it's really hard to do
in education today.
678
00:31:15,444 --> 00:31:18,903
I mean, I pretty much was,
you know, fighting
679
00:31:18,980 --> 00:31:20,505
and was working hard
and was feeling like
680
00:31:20,582 --> 00:31:23,608
I was making a difference,
but it's gotten harder
681
00:31:23,685 --> 00:31:26,916
and harder to feel like
I can teach the things
682
00:31:26,988 --> 00:31:33,155
I believe in versus be a yes-man
and sort of do what all the-
683
00:31:33,228 --> 00:31:34,855
what the district
and the state-
684
00:31:34,930 --> 00:31:38,093
and, you know, federally,
all the pressure's on us.
685
00:31:38,166 --> 00:31:40,191
Demetrius ditches Helena
in the forest,
686
00:31:40,268 --> 00:31:41,963
where she finds Lysander.
687
00:31:42,037 --> 00:31:44,734
The standards very much
go along with the testing
688
00:31:44,806 --> 00:31:47,468
and this whole idea that,
you know, there's certain things
689
00:31:47,542 --> 00:31:49,101
that kids need to know.
690
00:31:49,177 --> 00:31:51,168
I believe that one
of the main things
691
00:31:51,246 --> 00:31:53,112
we are doing in schools
is socializing,
692
00:31:53,181 --> 00:31:56,344
and the jobs don't necessarily
need you to know
693
00:31:56,418 --> 00:31:57,715
how to use a semicolon.
694
00:31:57,786 --> 00:31:59,845
They need you
to be a critical thinker.
695
00:31:59,921 --> 00:32:01,389
They need you
to be a problem solver.
696
00:32:01,456 --> 00:32:03,117
They need you to be-you know,
697
00:32:03,191 --> 00:32:05,592
be able to work in groups
with other people.
698
00:32:05,661 --> 00:32:07,959
So things that actually
get our students to think
699
00:32:08,030 --> 00:32:11,967
and work together and care
are pushed aside.
700
00:32:12,033 --> 00:32:15,901
What's happened more and more
with No Child Left Behind
701
00:32:15,971 --> 00:32:19,134
and the testing craze is,
instead of, you know,
702
00:32:19,207 --> 00:32:20,436
professional developments
703
00:32:20,509 --> 00:32:22,705
or making teachers
more accountable
704
00:32:22,778 --> 00:32:24,803
or working on getting rid
of the teachers
705
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:26,712
who don't actually
do any teaching,
706
00:32:26,782 --> 00:32:29,183
they decided that they need
to give more tests.
707
00:32:29,251 --> 00:32:32,016
These tests
that they do horribly on,
708
00:32:32,087 --> 00:32:34,385
it's not related
to my curriculum.
709
00:32:34,456 --> 00:32:36,151
You're testing them
on their culture,
710
00:32:36,224 --> 00:32:37,749
and they are
from a different culture
711
00:32:37,826 --> 00:32:41,763
than this testing culture.
712
00:32:41,830 --> 00:32:45,596
- CAHSEE is basically a test
that determines whether or not
713
00:32:45,667 --> 00:32:47,135
you will get a diploma
for high school,
714
00:32:47,202 --> 00:32:50,137
and I feel like I have
set many goals for myself,
715
00:32:50,205 --> 00:32:51,604
which is to graduate
from high school
716
00:32:51,673 --> 00:32:53,505
and go through college
and become a lawyer.
717
00:32:53,575 --> 00:32:55,009
I'm really thinking
about Harvard.
718
00:32:55,077 --> 00:32:56,511
I'm really trying.
719
00:32:56,578 --> 00:33:00,742
I've been getting 4.0s for
three marking periods already,
720
00:33:00,816 --> 00:33:02,250
and so hopefully
I can keep that up,
721
00:33:02,317 --> 00:33:04,877
but when I heard about
this CAHSEE test,
722
00:33:04,953 --> 00:33:06,944
I became really nervous,
723
00:33:07,022 --> 00:33:10,925
because I felt like this CAHSEE
might, you know, end my dreams.
724
00:33:12,294 --> 00:33:14,456
- My philosophy was, you know,
725
00:33:14,529 --> 00:33:16,224
to get these kids
to love learning,
726
00:33:16,298 --> 00:33:19,826
to get them to see learning
as power, you know?
727
00:33:19,902 --> 00:33:20,960
Learning as power.
728
00:33:21,037 --> 00:33:22,835
Like, if you want to have power
in your life
729
00:33:22,905 --> 00:33:26,569
to do whatever you want to do,
you have to be a learner.
730
00:33:26,643 --> 00:33:28,737
You have to read the paper.
You have to care.
731
00:33:28,811 --> 00:33:31,542
From day one, it was very clear
732
00:33:31,614 --> 00:33:35,016
that that is not what
the district wants me to do.
733
00:33:35,084 --> 00:33:37,553
If you aren't teaching things
that you love,
734
00:33:37,620 --> 00:33:39,418
you cannot do this job.
735
00:33:39,489 --> 00:33:41,082
- Wake up.
736
00:33:41,157 --> 00:33:42,215
- So what's gonna happen now?
737
00:33:42,291 --> 00:33:43,656
- He's gonna
fall in love with her.
738
00:33:43,726 --> 00:33:47,788
- Oh, okay, Lysander.
Wake up lovingly.
739
00:33:47,864 --> 00:33:50,765
I realize
that my educational philosophy
740
00:33:50,833 --> 00:33:54,030
and what I believe is just
and efficacious.
741
00:33:54,103 --> 00:33:57,368
I couldn't reconcile that
with all the inefficiencies
742
00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,932
and what the district believes
I should be doing.
743
00:34:00,009 --> 00:34:01,738
I just couldn't
make that balance
744
00:34:01,811 --> 00:34:05,543
and felt like the fight of that
is just killing me.
745
00:34:05,615 --> 00:34:06,946
It's sucking the life out of me.
746
00:34:07,016 --> 00:34:08,984
I ended up resigning,
747
00:34:09,051 --> 00:34:11,486
but it's been the hardest
decision of my life.
748
00:34:11,554 --> 00:34:12,715
I've always been a teacher.
749
00:34:12,789 --> 00:34:14,621
I've always wanted
to be in East Oakland,
750
00:34:14,691 --> 00:34:16,056
and I love these kids.
751
00:34:16,125 --> 00:34:17,786
I mean, one of the things
that I never knew
752
00:34:17,860 --> 00:34:19,794
about teaching was,
I'm a mother.
753
00:34:19,862 --> 00:34:21,091
I'm a friend.
754
00:34:21,164 --> 00:34:23,929
I'm a mentor,
and I don't want to leave them,
755
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:27,026
and, I mean, I see these kids
more than their parents
756
00:34:27,103 --> 00:34:29,367
half the time,
because I'm with them every day,
757
00:34:29,439 --> 00:34:30,964
and because
I'm an English teacher,
758
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:32,838
they do all this writing for me,
759
00:34:32,909 --> 00:34:34,308
and so I learn about their lives
760
00:34:34,377 --> 00:34:36,971
and their fears
and their beliefs,
761
00:34:37,046 --> 00:34:39,913
and I don't want them to feel
like I've just given up on them.
762
00:34:43,319 --> 00:34:45,845
- Clearly, the first thing
we need to improve education
763
00:34:45,922 --> 00:34:47,686
in urban schools,
764
00:34:47,757 --> 00:34:49,851
in schools
that are serving students
765
00:34:49,926 --> 00:34:51,325
who are
economically disadvantaged
766
00:34:51,394 --> 00:34:54,193
is greater equity,
because right now,
767
00:34:54,263 --> 00:34:55,890
students in more
affluent communities
768
00:34:55,965 --> 00:34:58,332
are going to schools
that have more resources
769
00:34:58,401 --> 00:35:01,803
than students who are
in low-income communities.
770
00:35:01,871 --> 00:35:05,239
It doesn't make sense to me
that we don't invest up front
771
00:35:05,308 --> 00:35:08,903
and then are willing to pay
the costs through prisons,
772
00:35:08,978 --> 00:35:13,211
welfare, health costs,
and all the other ways
773
00:35:13,283 --> 00:35:16,275
in which individuals suffer
and society suffers
774
00:35:16,352 --> 00:35:17,945
when we don't invest up front,
775
00:35:18,021 --> 00:35:22,117
but I don't think the problem
is really just with kids
776
00:35:22,191 --> 00:35:23,488
in low-income schools.
777
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:25,688
I think the United States
really needs to rethink
778
00:35:25,762 --> 00:35:29,528
how we do schooling
and how much we want to invest
779
00:35:29,599 --> 00:35:31,500
in our next generation.
780
00:35:31,569 --> 00:35:34,231
One of the things
we know from research is,
781
00:35:34,305 --> 00:35:36,933
it's the quality of the teaching
that matters most.
782
00:35:37,007 --> 00:35:39,101
I think countries
that understand that
783
00:35:39,176 --> 00:35:41,440
and have invested
in quality teaching
784
00:35:41,512 --> 00:35:43,571
are the ones that are killing us
785
00:35:43,647 --> 00:35:46,173
on these
international comparisons.
786
00:35:46,250 --> 00:35:48,844
In Singapore,
just as an example,
787
00:35:48,919 --> 00:35:54,255
the government selects the top
20% of their high school class
788
00:35:54,324 --> 00:35:57,988
and offers them a full ride,
basically,
789
00:35:58,062 --> 00:36:01,657
and a stipend to be trained
to be a teacher.
790
00:36:01,732 --> 00:36:05,191
It's very high-status,
and there's no opportunity cost,
791
00:36:05,269 --> 00:36:08,967
whereas in the United States,
you have to go a fifth year,
792
00:36:09,039 --> 00:36:10,336
and you have to pay tuition,
793
00:36:10,407 --> 00:36:13,900
and you forgo a year
of being able to work,
794
00:36:13,977 --> 00:36:16,173
so the financial cost
is quite great,
795
00:36:16,246 --> 00:36:19,375
yet the financial reward
is very small.
796
00:36:19,483 --> 00:36:25,889
- Okay, so imagine you've got
a long sequence of numbers.
797
00:36:25,956 --> 00:36:28,118
Being a math teacher is
something I always wanted to do.
798
00:36:28,192 --> 00:36:29,626
I got close to adulthood
and said,
799
00:36:29,693 --> 00:36:32,253
"Wow, my life is really gonna
be hard if I choose to do this."
800
00:36:32,329 --> 00:36:33,558
How is that possible?
801
00:36:33,630 --> 00:36:36,292
And you can only do it
for the love of it for so long.
802
00:36:36,367 --> 00:36:38,392
You can only fight
the good fight for so long
803
00:36:38,469 --> 00:36:41,234
if you feel that you don't have
any reinforcements behind you,
804
00:36:41,305 --> 00:36:44,138
that culturally,
that financially, societally,
805
00:36:44,208 --> 00:36:48,338
the fact that we don't have as
great respect for our teachers
806
00:36:48,412 --> 00:36:51,473
as we do for some
other professions means,
807
00:36:51,549 --> 00:36:53,381
well, why should I go on
doing this thing
808
00:36:53,450 --> 00:36:55,248
if it's clearly not very valued?
809
00:36:55,319 --> 00:36:56,718
I do love this thing.
810
00:36:56,787 --> 00:36:59,119
I do want to do this thing,
but I'm gonna have to find a way
811
00:36:59,189 --> 00:37:00,350
to do it on my own terms,
812
00:37:00,424 --> 00:37:02,859
because the most popular way
to do it is a way
813
00:37:02,927 --> 00:37:04,656
that's gonna burn me out
inside of five years,
814
00:37:04,728 --> 00:37:06,287
like it does for most teachers,
815
00:37:06,363 --> 00:37:08,491
so I became a private tutor.
816
00:37:21,111 --> 00:37:23,705
- The tutoring industry is
a multimillion-dollar industry,
817
00:37:23,781 --> 00:37:26,113
and when I say tutoring, I mean
individual private tutors,
818
00:37:26,183 --> 00:37:28,015
but also the enrichment programs
819
00:37:28,085 --> 00:37:30,520
like Kumon and Sylvan
and the learning centers,
820
00:37:30,588 --> 00:37:32,249
and sometimes this starts
really young,
821
00:37:32,323 --> 00:37:34,758
like with Brilliant Babies,
822
00:37:34,825 --> 00:37:37,590
and the problem is this,
what you're sending the message
823
00:37:37,661 --> 00:37:39,629
to the kid is,
"You cannot do this alone.
824
00:37:39,697 --> 00:37:41,495
We need to help you."
825
00:37:41,565 --> 00:37:43,329
- So what unit
is this first mark?
826
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:44,732
- One.
827
00:37:44,803 --> 00:37:46,828
- Good, and what's the value
of the second one?
828
00:37:46,905 --> 00:37:49,272
- The reason that kids
are seeking tutors
829
00:37:49,341 --> 00:37:52,743
is because we are teaching
the majority of our kids
830
00:37:52,811 --> 00:37:54,836
as if they were in the top 2%.
831
00:37:54,913 --> 00:37:56,711
You'll see that at every level.
832
00:37:56,781 --> 00:38:00,775
Everything has been pushed down,
and we're really putting kids
833
00:38:00,852 --> 00:38:04,413
under a great deal
of pressure to be there.
834
00:38:04,489 --> 00:38:06,685
When the kids feel like
they're under pressure,
835
00:38:06,758 --> 00:38:08,749
the parents are even worse.
836
00:38:08,827 --> 00:38:10,522
They feel a huge amount
of stress.
837
00:38:10,595 --> 00:38:11,994
"Is my child
where they should be?
838
00:38:12,063 --> 00:38:15,294
What's everybody else doing?"
There's a huge worry.
839
00:38:18,436 --> 00:38:21,133
- Zakary started feeling
at the beginning of fourth grade
840
00:38:21,206 --> 00:38:23,675
like he was disappointing
his teachers,
841
00:38:23,742 --> 00:38:27,736
like he wasn't measuring up to
what they were expecting of him.
842
00:38:41,259 --> 00:38:44,854
- He started developing
headaches and stomachaches.
843
00:38:44,930 --> 00:38:46,625
There were nights
that he came home this year
844
00:38:46,698 --> 00:38:49,497
with math homework
that I could not help him with.
845
00:38:49,567 --> 00:38:52,730
It was clear that he was getting
really frustrated.
846
00:38:52,804 --> 00:38:55,899
It was suggested that he start
working with a tutor,
847
00:38:55,974 --> 00:38:59,103
but he spends
seven hours a day at school,
848
00:38:59,177 --> 00:39:01,908
and then we're asking him
to do more sitting at a desk
849
00:39:01,980 --> 00:39:03,448
after school with a tutor
850
00:39:03,515 --> 00:39:06,815
and then to come home to another
hour or two of homework.
851
00:39:06,885 --> 00:39:08,478
That's not how I want to see
852
00:39:08,553 --> 00:39:11,716
Zakary spending
his young years,
853
00:39:11,790 --> 00:39:14,020
but I didn't want Zakary,
in fourth grade,
854
00:39:14,092 --> 00:39:16,459
to convince himself
that he wasn't good at math,
855
00:39:16,528 --> 00:39:20,192
and my worry for him is that,
if, at age ten,
856
00:39:20,265 --> 00:39:23,929
he's already convinced himself
that he's not good at anything,
857
00:39:24,002 --> 00:39:27,632
how is he going to get back
to a place where he's excited
858
00:39:27,706 --> 00:39:30,300
about learning
and where he feels confident
859
00:39:30,375 --> 00:39:33,140
in his abilities?
860
00:39:33,211 --> 00:39:35,578
- So you multiply by three,
so what's it gonna be?
861
00:39:35,647 --> 00:39:37,513
How many groups of three?
862
00:39:37,582 --> 00:39:39,311
- Mmm...
863
00:39:39,384 --> 00:39:41,352
I'm not sure yet.
864
00:39:41,419 --> 00:39:44,411
- My worry is he'll rebel
and he'll check out,
865
00:39:44,489 --> 00:39:47,288
as so many of the boys
that I've met have done.
866
00:39:49,995 --> 00:39:52,965
- When I want to school,
a very small number of kids
867
00:39:53,031 --> 00:39:55,261
were expected
to be really super smart,
868
00:39:55,333 --> 00:39:58,326
and they went on
to great colleges.
869
00:39:58,404 --> 00:40:00,463
Now every kid is expected
to be that way.
870
00:40:00,540 --> 00:40:01,939
That's just not
the way it works.
871
00:40:02,008 --> 00:40:06,036
There's a bell curve, and smart
has many different meanings,
872
00:40:06,112 --> 00:40:08,638
so there's academically smart,
873
00:40:08,714 --> 00:40:10,876
there's kids
who are incredibly creative.
874
00:40:10,950 --> 00:40:13,942
There are kids who are totally
hands-on kinds of kids,
875
00:40:14,020 --> 00:40:17,650
and we're ignoring
this great group of kids
876
00:40:17,723 --> 00:40:20,658
because we're so focused
on this narrow group
877
00:40:20,726 --> 00:40:22,160
of highly achieving kids,
878
00:40:22,228 --> 00:40:23,923
and we're trying to turn them
all into that.
879
00:40:23,996 --> 00:40:27,022
- We know it's absolutely
developmentally appropriate
880
00:40:27,099 --> 00:40:29,591
for some kids
not to be proficient readers
881
00:40:29,669 --> 00:40:32,730
until the end of first grade,
beginning of second grade,
882
00:40:32,805 --> 00:40:36,400
but we have schools now
who are told they must have kids
883
00:40:36,475 --> 00:40:39,103
proficient in reading
by the end of kindergarten
884
00:40:39,178 --> 00:40:41,909
or they go to
a mandatory literacy camp.
885
00:40:41,981 --> 00:40:43,312
You can send them
to literacy camp,
886
00:40:43,382 --> 00:40:45,612
and they can get completely
turned off to reading
887
00:40:45,685 --> 00:40:48,814
because they
are literally not ready.
888
00:40:48,888 --> 00:40:50,287
- Even younger, you know.
889
00:40:50,356 --> 00:40:53,348
When you're doing flash cards
with your six-month-old...
890
00:40:53,426 --> 00:40:54,860
- Good job.
891
00:40:54,927 --> 00:40:56,395
- Your six-month-old
is supposed to be
892
00:40:56,462 --> 00:40:59,488
sucking on his toes and thumbs,
and there's reasons for that.
893
00:40:59,565 --> 00:41:03,661
It's not just mindless work.
It's learning about their body.
894
00:41:03,736 --> 00:41:06,671
All along the way, we're missing
the developmental tasks
895
00:41:06,739 --> 00:41:10,937
with this tremendous
preoccupation with performance.
896
00:41:11,043 --> 00:41:15,139
- This issue of perform
and produce, perform, produce,
897
00:41:15,214 --> 00:41:17,740
produce, produce,
produce, perform,
898
00:41:17,817 --> 00:41:22,311
produce leaves out processing.
899
00:41:32,331 --> 00:41:34,663
- Because of how much pressure
and how much stress
900
00:41:34,734 --> 00:41:36,668
is put on getting that A
901
00:41:36,736 --> 00:41:39,364
so that you can get into
an Ivy League school,
902
00:41:39,438 --> 00:41:41,270
people don't know how
to deal with that besides,
903
00:41:41,340 --> 00:41:42,398
like, cheating.
904
00:41:42,475 --> 00:41:43,909
That's what they have
to result to,
905
00:41:43,976 --> 00:41:46,308
because you're getting, like,
five hours of homework a night,
906
00:41:46,379 --> 00:41:47,744
and you just can't-
you can't do it.
907
00:41:47,813 --> 00:41:50,714
- We have a study where
there's eight different ways
908
00:41:50,783 --> 00:41:52,512
to cheat on our study.
909
00:41:52,585 --> 00:41:54,417
Copying homework is one of them,
910
00:41:54,487 --> 00:41:57,650
cheating off of a test,
plagiarism, et cetera.
911
00:41:57,723 --> 00:42:02,024
In our study, less than 3%
of the 5,000 students
912
00:42:02,094 --> 00:42:04,392
have never cheated.
913
00:42:04,463 --> 00:42:07,023
- Cheating has become
another course.
914
00:42:07,099 --> 00:42:10,262
You learn how to do it from 9th
to 12th grade,
915
00:42:10,336 --> 00:42:13,204
and it continues,
and you get better at it.
916
00:42:13,273 --> 00:42:16,675
- I ended up getting a B
in a class, and then I cheated,
917
00:42:16,743 --> 00:42:19,872
and it really ended up
backfiring on me,
918
00:42:19,947 --> 00:42:24,316
but a lot of people-
and I learned my lesson,
919
00:42:24,384 --> 00:42:27,149
because I was caught
and et cetera,
920
00:42:27,221 --> 00:42:30,452
but a lot of people
in this school aren't caught,
921
00:42:30,524 --> 00:42:33,858
and there is a very high level
of cheating going on.
922
00:42:33,927 --> 00:42:35,725
- Kids cheat
for a lot of reasons.
923
00:42:35,796 --> 00:42:37,992
Most of the time, it's because
they have too much work to do
924
00:42:38,065 --> 00:42:39,464
and too little time to do it,
925
00:42:39,533 --> 00:42:41,331
or the pressure on them
is so great,
926
00:42:41,401 --> 00:42:44,200
they feel like they need to get
the grade by hook or by crook,
927
00:42:44,271 --> 00:42:45,670
but we also have kids
who are cheating
928
00:42:45,739 --> 00:42:47,730
because they think the teacher
doesn't care.
929
00:42:47,808 --> 00:42:48,866
"It's busy work.
930
00:42:48,942 --> 00:42:50,706
Why can't I just copy
my homework?"
931
00:42:50,777 --> 00:42:52,802
- How are you expected to learn?
932
00:42:52,879 --> 00:42:54,643
Like, how do you expect us
to do well
933
00:42:54,715 --> 00:42:56,183
when you can't even
make mistakes?
934
00:42:56,250 --> 00:42:58,617
And it just motivates you
to cheat more.
935
00:42:58,685 --> 00:43:00,153
- We're producing children who,
936
00:43:00,220 --> 00:43:02,552
all they know how to do
is cut corners and cheat.
937
00:43:02,623 --> 00:43:04,819
I mean, look around
at the business world
938
00:43:04,891 --> 00:43:06,791
and what we've done, okay,
939
00:43:06,860 --> 00:43:09,352
because we were cutting corners
and we were cheating,
940
00:43:09,429 --> 00:43:11,557
and we're gonna
pay the price for it.
941
00:43:11,632 --> 00:43:12,724
We are paying the price for it,
942
00:43:12,799 --> 00:43:14,460
financially, right now
in the country.
943
00:43:14,568 --> 00:43:18,664
- The point of education
is to learn, not to memorize.
944
00:43:18,739 --> 00:43:22,175
That's when you have to resort
to cheating or stressing,
945
00:43:22,242 --> 00:43:26,475
you know, your sleep and
sacrificing your love to eat.
946
00:43:26,546 --> 00:43:29,413
You're just molding yourself
and buying into the thought
947
00:43:29,483 --> 00:43:31,474
of being a better worker,
948
00:43:31,551 --> 00:43:35,044
that I'm teaching myself to
be able to live without sleep,
949
00:43:35,122 --> 00:43:36,385
to be able to live
without eating,
950
00:43:36,456 --> 00:43:41,951
to be able to live
with some bald guy yelling at me
951
00:43:42,029 --> 00:43:43,963
to do his work.
952
00:43:48,468 --> 00:43:51,165
I've got this message
where because I'm black
953
00:43:51,238 --> 00:43:55,197
and because I'm living
under the poverty line,
954
00:43:55,275 --> 00:43:58,210
you know, there's so much
expected of me to excel
955
00:43:58,278 --> 00:44:02,272
and try to be more mobile
in terms of status in society,
956
00:44:02,349 --> 00:44:06,047
you know, and that too much is
riding on my grades, you know?
957
00:44:06,119 --> 00:44:09,714
That outside of sports,
education's the only way I can,
958
00:44:09,790 --> 00:44:12,760
you know, earn money,
and, you know, live a happy,
959
00:44:12,826 --> 00:44:15,761
you know, American life.
960
00:44:15,829 --> 00:44:19,390
Yeah, there goes me
being funny again.
961
00:44:19,466 --> 00:44:22,299
This is my older brother Justin,
my older sister Courtney,
962
00:44:22,369 --> 00:44:23,598
and my little sister Ashley.
963
00:44:23,670 --> 00:44:25,765
There's me, my second
oldest brother Cameron,
964
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:27,433
who's actually
in the military right now.
965
00:44:27,508 --> 00:44:31,706
I think he's serving a tour
in Iraq, and my mother.
966
00:44:31,779 --> 00:44:35,079
Middle school, I was, like,
967
00:44:35,149 --> 00:44:37,516
the dude to go to if you needed
help with your math work.
968
00:44:37,585 --> 00:44:41,021
Like, I was a 4.0 student.
969
00:44:41,089 --> 00:44:43,854
But now that you come
to high school,
970
00:44:43,925 --> 00:44:46,724
it's been really hard
in high school.
971
00:44:46,794 --> 00:44:48,853
It's been really hard.
972
00:44:48,930 --> 00:44:52,525
My counselor said,
"if you want to be competitive,
973
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:55,365
"you know, if you want colleges
to look at you, you know,
974
00:44:55,436 --> 00:44:58,337
taking the AP classes is
a big thing on your transcript,"
975
00:44:58,406 --> 00:45:01,376
and the transcript is almost
as if it's a resume for us.
976
00:45:01,442 --> 00:45:04,503
You know, going to college
is like a job.
977
00:45:04,579 --> 00:45:07,048
The harder my classes are,
978
00:45:07,115 --> 00:45:10,107
not only does it mean
the more looks I will have
979
00:45:10,185 --> 00:45:11,983
but also the wider range
980
00:45:12,053 --> 00:45:13,953
of scholarships I can apply to,
you know.
981
00:45:14,022 --> 00:45:15,490
Being an African American
982
00:45:15,556 --> 00:45:18,253
and taking AP classes
is what people are looking for.
983
00:45:18,326 --> 00:45:21,785
People want to give money to me
and colleges want to accept me,
984
00:45:21,863 --> 00:45:23,888
'cause they,
especially in California,
985
00:45:23,965 --> 00:45:27,424
are having a model of being,
you know, diverse campuses.
986
00:45:29,570 --> 00:45:32,437
In the past four years...
987
00:45:32,507 --> 00:45:34,498
I've done a lot of cheating.
988
00:45:34,575 --> 00:45:38,808
The homework given by AP or
honor classes is time-consuming,
989
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:42,180
so you can't stay up, you know,
11:00, 12:00,
990
00:45:42,250 --> 00:45:44,742
1:00 in the morning
doing homework each night.
991
00:45:44,819 --> 00:45:47,345
I know that I want the A,
I want that B,
992
00:45:47,422 --> 00:45:52,258
I want that 3.5, that 3.8,
that 4.0, and then this year,
993
00:45:52,327 --> 00:45:54,557
I'm now taking
an AP government class,
994
00:45:54,629 --> 00:45:58,122
and I've gotten a D
every marking period,
995
00:45:58,199 --> 00:46:03,069
and even though it's bad
to see it, it's all me.
996
00:46:03,137 --> 00:46:06,698
When I got that D,
I couldn't cope.
997
00:46:06,774 --> 00:46:09,505
I wanted to get
out of the class so bad.
998
00:46:09,577 --> 00:46:11,705
I felt so ashamed.
999
00:46:11,779 --> 00:46:14,214
And I wouldn't say
I wanted to resort
1000
00:46:14,282 --> 00:46:16,410
to dropping out of school,
1001
00:46:16,484 --> 00:46:22,582
but I was really close
to not caring anymore.
1002
00:46:22,657 --> 00:46:25,592
Existentialism means
pertaining to existence
1003
00:46:25,660 --> 00:46:27,389
or it can also apply to a vision
1004
00:46:27,462 --> 00:46:29,794
of condition
and existence of man.
1005
00:46:29,864 --> 00:46:32,834
Well, right now,
we are at Youth Radio,
1006
00:46:32,901 --> 00:46:35,336
one of the studios
broadcasting the show
1007
00:46:35,403 --> 00:46:37,098
that I co-host with my friend.
1008
00:46:37,171 --> 00:46:40,574
Youth Radio is a media-based
nonprofit organization
1009
00:46:40,643 --> 00:46:43,738
that provides youth
such as myself an outlet
1010
00:46:43,812 --> 00:46:45,507
to voice our opinions
and thoughts.
1011
00:46:45,581 --> 00:46:46,810
We have another break.
1012
00:46:46,882 --> 00:46:48,475
I'm gonna try to come on
1013
00:46:48,550 --> 00:46:51,315
and deal with this
and get back to you guys.
1014
00:46:51,387 --> 00:46:57,053
Doing Youth Radio for
about 18 months, and I love it.
1015
00:46:57,126 --> 00:47:00,221
The biggest challenges for me
going from high school
1016
00:47:00,295 --> 00:47:03,287
into college would be financial,
1017
00:47:03,365 --> 00:47:05,561
whether or not
I can afford college
1018
00:47:05,634 --> 00:47:09,002
and whether or not
I'm academically prepared,
1019
00:47:09,071 --> 00:47:11,802
and I just have a fear
that I'll spend all this money
1020
00:47:11,874 --> 00:47:14,639
just to fail, you know?
1021
00:47:14,710 --> 00:47:18,408
That I'm gonna be
at a high level of learning
1022
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:24,544
and not be prepared to...
be there.
1023
00:47:26,789 --> 00:47:30,350
- In order for students to have
a more valuable experience
1024
00:47:30,426 --> 00:47:33,327
from their high school years,
1025
00:47:33,395 --> 00:47:35,454
they're gonna have to decide,
you know,
1026
00:47:35,531 --> 00:47:38,899
"I don't need to take
five AP classes.
1027
00:47:38,968 --> 00:47:41,960
"Here are some classes
I'm really interested in taking.
1028
00:47:42,037 --> 00:47:43,368
"I'm gonna take
AP English
1029
00:47:43,439 --> 00:47:45,237
because I really
enjoy literature."
1030
00:47:45,307 --> 00:47:49,107
A majority of my students will
sign up for my AP biology course
1031
00:47:49,178 --> 00:47:53,547
because they get a GPA boost
on their transcript.
1032
00:47:53,616 --> 00:47:55,584
The course is a runaway train.
1033
00:47:55,651 --> 00:47:59,610
There's no way we can cover all
of the material in one year.
1034
00:47:59,688 --> 00:48:00,883
It's impossible.
1035
00:48:00,956 --> 00:48:04,620
What do we do?
We go as fast as we can.
1036
00:48:04,693 --> 00:48:10,188
And the students absorb
some of it, maybe.
1037
00:48:10,266 --> 00:48:12,564
- High school now
has become preparation
1038
00:48:12,635 --> 00:48:15,002
for the college application,
not even for college,
1039
00:48:15,070 --> 00:48:16,629
just the college application.
1040
00:48:16,705 --> 00:48:17,934
And it creates a mentality
1041
00:48:18,007 --> 00:48:20,442
that was expressed very well
by my daughter.
1042
00:48:20,509 --> 00:48:22,944
After her French AP test,
she said,
1043
00:48:23,012 --> 00:48:25,106
"I never have
to speak French again."
1044
00:48:25,180 --> 00:48:26,579
- I don't think
what I'm learning
1045
00:48:26,649 --> 00:48:28,378
will help me that much
in my college classes.
1046
00:48:28,450 --> 00:48:32,284
I think that college is gonna be
a place where I start to learn.
1047
00:48:32,354 --> 00:48:34,186
- I'm never really thinking hard
1048
00:48:34,256 --> 00:48:36,452
about the meanings
of any of this.
1049
00:48:36,525 --> 00:48:38,323
I'm just thinking about
how to get done.
1050
00:48:38,494 --> 00:48:41,464
- Because the standards
are organized
1051
00:48:41,530 --> 00:48:43,430
in sort of component skills,
1052
00:48:43,499 --> 00:48:46,196
they often lead to teaching
which is very fragmented,
1053
00:48:46,268 --> 00:48:47,736
sort of compoted teaching.
1054
00:48:47,803 --> 00:48:50,238
"We can check this off now.
We've done this in the class."
1055
00:48:50,306 --> 00:48:52,776
It also reinforces
1056
00:48:52,842 --> 00:48:55,004
what Americans
are often criticized for
1057
00:48:55,078 --> 00:48:57,274
in their education system,
of having an education system
1058
00:48:57,347 --> 00:48:59,111
that's a mile wide
and an inch deep.
1059
00:48:59,182 --> 00:49:03,278
Whereas, if you really think
about what adults need
1060
00:49:03,353 --> 00:49:05,185
to be successful in life,
1061
00:49:05,255 --> 00:49:07,883
it's not knowing
a whole bunch of things.
1062
00:49:07,958 --> 00:49:10,290
It's really having
critical thinking skills
1063
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:13,762
and analytic skills,
being able to learn.
1064
00:49:13,830 --> 00:49:16,458
- I've been teaching
graduate school
1065
00:49:16,533 --> 00:49:20,595
and medical school and dental
school for over 30 years.
1066
00:49:20,670 --> 00:49:24,732
In the last decade or so,
they have this entitlement
1067
00:49:24,808 --> 00:49:27,709
that they need to know exactly
what's gonna go on the test
1068
00:49:27,777 --> 00:49:31,270
and not have to think about
anything beyond that.
1069
00:49:31,348 --> 00:49:32,907
So what is that going to mean
1070
00:49:32,983 --> 00:49:37,011
when we have a whole population
of dentists and doctors
1071
00:49:37,087 --> 00:49:39,351
who've been being trained
from a script?
1072
00:49:39,422 --> 00:49:41,447
How are they going to approach
new diseases
1073
00:49:41,524 --> 00:49:43,390
as they emerge
in our populations?
1074
00:49:43,460 --> 00:49:47,260
How are they going
to diagnose people
1075
00:49:47,330 --> 00:49:51,563
who have the nontraditional,
non-scripted kind of illnesses?
1076
00:49:51,634 --> 00:49:53,625
- We've created
a couple of generations now
1077
00:49:53,703 --> 00:49:55,535
that have grown up
in a world of training wheels,
1078
00:49:55,605 --> 00:49:58,074
and when you always have
training wheels on your bike,
1079
00:49:58,141 --> 00:50:00,371
you don't have this opportunity
to fall off
1080
00:50:00,443 --> 00:50:02,639
and realize that you
can pick yourself up
1081
00:50:02,712 --> 00:50:04,942
and dust yourself off
and you're gonna be okay again.
1082
00:50:05,015 --> 00:50:08,576
- Fire it in there.
- Kick it low. Kick it low.
1083
00:50:11,154 --> 00:50:12,986
- They have been coached
from the time
1084
00:50:13,056 --> 00:50:14,319
they were very, very young.
1085
00:50:14,391 --> 00:50:16,257
They were coached
by T-ball coaches,
1086
00:50:16,326 --> 00:50:17,816
by their soccer coaches.
1087
00:50:17,894 --> 00:50:19,658
They have been coached
by their parents.
1088
00:50:19,729 --> 00:50:21,322
They have been coached
by their teachers,
1089
00:50:21,398 --> 00:50:24,925
and in my experience,
they are very much looking
1090
00:50:25,001 --> 00:50:28,130
for their employers to provide
the same levels of coaching.
1091
00:50:28,204 --> 00:50:30,639
- Make sense? Okay.
So anything else?
1092
00:50:30,707 --> 00:50:33,768
- I'm sure there will be.
- Okay. Yeah. I'm right there.
1093
00:50:33,844 --> 00:50:35,744
- Thank you very much.
- No problem.
1094
00:50:35,812 --> 00:50:39,043
- The longer I was a lawyer,
1095
00:50:39,115 --> 00:50:41,709
I felt like the kinds
of newer lawyers
1096
00:50:41,785 --> 00:50:44,379
that were coming into the office
or the kinds of students
1097
00:50:44,454 --> 00:50:46,422
who were my interns
didn't seem to have
1098
00:50:46,489 --> 00:50:50,551
the same kind of thinking skills
as the ones from years earlier.
1099
00:50:50,627 --> 00:50:53,528
They seem to be so focused on,
"How many cases do you want,
1100
00:50:53,596 --> 00:50:55,325
"and how many paragraphs
should I write,
1101
00:50:55,398 --> 00:50:57,196
and what should I cite?"
1102
00:50:57,267 --> 00:50:59,235
rather then going out there
and saying,
1103
00:50:59,302 --> 00:51:00,497
"This is the problem,
1104
00:51:00,570 --> 00:51:02,664
and how am I gonna find
the answer to the problem?"
1105
00:51:02,739 --> 00:51:04,003
- Kids are our future.
1106
00:51:04,075 --> 00:51:07,375
These are many of our leaders,
and without creativity,
1107
00:51:07,445 --> 00:51:10,039
they're not gonna be prepared
to lead us,
1108
00:51:10,114 --> 00:51:13,846
and the bottom line is that
what creates the opportunity
1109
00:51:13,918 --> 00:51:15,317
to be innovative is to say,
1110
00:51:15,386 --> 00:51:17,013
"I'm gonna think
outside this box,
1111
00:51:17,088 --> 00:51:19,079
"and if I get a C,
that's all right.
1112
00:51:19,156 --> 00:51:20,749
Maybe he just
doesn't get it yet."
1113
00:51:20,825 --> 00:51:22,657
Maybe he just
doesn't get it yet."
1114
00:51:22,727 --> 00:51:25,958
- We are known
for being innovative thinkers,
1115
00:51:26,030 --> 00:51:28,795
and I think it's because
we had time,
1116
00:51:28,866 --> 00:51:31,597
or we used to have time
as children to be bored,
1117
00:51:31,669 --> 00:51:36,835
and it's really important
just to have that downtime.
1118
00:51:36,907 --> 00:51:39,877
- Every minute of
our kids' days are scheduled.
1119
00:51:39,944 --> 00:51:42,504
They go from spending
their days in school
1120
00:51:42,580 --> 00:51:45,709
to their structured activities
after school
1121
00:51:45,783 --> 00:51:47,877
to hours of homework
in the evenings.
1122
00:51:47,952 --> 00:51:50,717
The only unstructured time
seems to be the time
1123
00:51:50,788 --> 00:51:53,280
they spend on their computer.
1124
00:51:53,357 --> 00:51:56,156
I worry about the addictive
nature of the time
1125
00:51:56,227 --> 00:51:57,558
they're spending
on the computer,
1126
00:51:57,628 --> 00:51:59,562
and I worry about the isolation.
1127
00:52:03,167 --> 00:52:05,067
- If we take play
away from childhood,
1128
00:52:05,136 --> 00:52:08,902
we're taking away the very tool
that has always worked
1129
00:52:08,973 --> 00:52:12,637
to have kids figure out
how to exist in the adult world.
1130
00:52:14,178 --> 00:52:15,703
- Play is children's work.
1131
00:52:15,780 --> 00:52:18,772
Play for older children teaches
them the rules of the game,
1132
00:52:18,849 --> 00:52:22,410
teaches them that all structures
have rules around them.
1133
00:52:22,486 --> 00:52:24,614
Play is just a critical part
1134
00:52:24,689 --> 00:52:27,715
of a growing mind
and a growing body.
1135
00:52:27,792 --> 00:52:30,818
- I feel like I've missed out
on a lot of my childhood
1136
00:52:30,895 --> 00:52:33,125
because I've been
inside doing homework
1137
00:52:33,197 --> 00:52:36,030
instead of being able to go out
and play in the street,
1138
00:52:36,100 --> 00:52:38,694
draw on the street with chalk,
and I think that's sad.
1139
00:52:38,769 --> 00:52:39,827
I think that the teachers
1140
00:52:39,904 --> 00:52:42,839
are slowly
taking away your innocence,
1141
00:52:42,907 --> 00:52:45,842
and what you have as a child,
you're not gonna ever, you know,
1142
00:52:45,910 --> 00:52:48,004
have a chance to get back.
1143
00:52:48,079 --> 00:52:49,911
- I think what's happening
to kids these days is,
1144
00:52:49,981 --> 00:52:52,109
they're not being allowed
to find what it is
1145
00:52:52,183 --> 00:52:55,414
that they love to do,
and it's really important,
1146
00:52:55,486 --> 00:52:57,648
because we're driven
by our passions.
1147
00:52:57,722 --> 00:52:59,087
To be successful,
1148
00:52:59,156 --> 00:53:02,421
you have to really, really love
what you're doing.
1149
00:53:02,493 --> 00:53:04,188
- If you're four
and you're resume building,
1150
00:53:04,261 --> 00:53:06,093
if you're eight and you're
resume building,
1151
00:53:06,163 --> 00:53:07,597
you lose all of that time,
1152
00:53:07,665 --> 00:53:09,997
the wonder,
the joy of childhood,
1153
00:53:10,067 --> 00:53:12,092
which should be full of zest
and adventure
1154
00:53:12,169 --> 00:53:14,399
and, you know,
sort of a joie de vivre,
1155
00:53:14,472 --> 00:53:16,406
and I think it's lost
for these kids.
1156
00:53:17,042 --> 00:53:21,673
- A lot of people say
that you have to do well now
1157
00:53:21,747 --> 00:53:24,546
so you can get
into a good college someday,
1158
00:53:24,616 --> 00:53:29,520
but I'm in third grade,
so I have a long time.
1159
00:53:29,588 --> 00:53:33,388
- We don't have time
for you to be a child.
1160
00:53:33,459 --> 00:53:35,689
We just don't have time.
You're playing.
1161
00:53:35,761 --> 00:53:38,059
No time for play.
It's about business.
1162
00:53:38,130 --> 00:53:39,564
You have to get into
a good school.
1163
00:53:39,631 --> 00:53:42,066
No school other than a good
school is gonna be good enough.
1164
00:53:46,004 --> 00:53:48,302
- This is
a numbers-driven society.
1165
00:53:48,373 --> 00:53:51,240
We have ratings
of all of the colleges,
1166
00:53:51,310 --> 00:53:54,245
and those ratings are largely
driven by numbers.
1167
00:53:54,313 --> 00:53:57,305
- Every school has
to have a good yield.
1168
00:53:57,382 --> 00:54:00,579
They have to show their donors,
you know,
1169
00:54:00,652 --> 00:54:02,814
so that their endowment
continues to grow,
1170
00:54:02,888 --> 00:54:05,585
that they are recruiting
amazing kids.
1171
00:54:05,657 --> 00:54:06,920
- College now
is more competitive
1172
00:54:06,992 --> 00:54:09,689
than it has ever been,
partly because we have a bulge
1173
00:54:09,762 --> 00:54:11,787
of the children
of the baby boomers.
1174
00:54:11,864 --> 00:54:14,196
They are in a very
competitive situation,
1175
00:54:14,266 --> 00:54:16,064
but they don't have
to make students feel
1176
00:54:16,134 --> 00:54:19,866
like they have to go to Stanford
to be happy or Yale or Harvard
1177
00:54:19,938 --> 00:54:22,430
or some of the other
handful of schools.
1178
00:54:22,507 --> 00:54:24,771
It's like going through
the eye of the needle
1179
00:54:24,843 --> 00:54:26,333
to get into these schools now.
1180
00:54:26,411 --> 00:54:28,573
- For those who don't
get into their dream school,
1181
00:54:28,647 --> 00:54:30,638
that rejection letter
is like death.
1182
00:54:30,715 --> 00:54:32,979
If you don't get
into a four-year university
1183
00:54:33,051 --> 00:54:35,452
and you're going
to a junior college instead
1184
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:36,919
or a community college,
it's, like-
1185
00:54:36,989 --> 00:54:38,320
there's such a stigma
around that.
1186
00:54:38,390 --> 00:54:40,620
It's like you're not
good enough or...
1187
00:54:40,692 --> 00:54:43,423
- You're stupid.
- You're not rich enough.
1188
00:54:43,495 --> 00:54:45,691
- The world is really run
by C students.
1189
00:54:45,764 --> 00:54:48,358
You start looking at top CEOs
across the country,
1190
00:54:48,433 --> 00:54:50,834
and few of them
were from top schools.
1191
00:54:50,903 --> 00:54:52,632
Few of them were the top grads.
1192
00:54:52,704 --> 00:54:55,503
They're just people who were
very, very persistent.
1193
00:55:12,624 --> 00:55:17,289
- The notion that there
is a best school,
1194
00:55:17,362 --> 00:55:19,160
it goes against everything
1195
00:55:19,231 --> 00:55:21,825
that educators and psychologists
and psychiatrists know.
1196
00:55:21,900 --> 00:55:27,168
There is no best anything.
It's a match between children.
1197
00:55:30,510 --> 00:55:33,036
- College is really,
at this point in time,
1198
00:55:33,112 --> 00:55:36,207
it is big business,
and I think that colleges
1199
00:55:36,282 --> 00:55:41,914
have gotten so savvy and have
really become major companies
1200
00:55:41,988 --> 00:55:45,356
that are selling their wares
and their goods to kids,
1201
00:55:45,425 --> 00:55:47,917
because the more kids
apply to schools,
1202
00:55:47,994 --> 00:55:51,089
that's going to increase
a school's reputation.
1203
00:55:51,164 --> 00:55:55,328
Now we have over 48,000 students
who are applying,
1204
00:55:55,401 --> 00:55:57,563
and we're only gonna
accept 12,000
1205
00:55:57,637 --> 00:56:01,073
to enroll about less than half
of that number.
1206
00:56:01,140 --> 00:56:05,077
The average weighted GPA
is a 4.35,
1207
00:56:05,144 --> 00:56:09,342
but the average
unweighted GPA is a 3.87,
1208
00:56:09,415 --> 00:56:11,383
so I say that to tell you,
of course,
1209
00:56:11,451 --> 00:56:14,443
we're gonna always take
the top students
1210
00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:17,012
who have taken
every AP and honors course,
1211
00:56:17,090 --> 00:56:20,788
college-level course
that they possibly can.
1212
00:56:20,860 --> 00:56:24,694
I feel that I've been
a perpetrator of the madness
1213
00:56:24,764 --> 00:56:27,028
in a sense,
because I've gone out,
1214
00:56:27,100 --> 00:56:28,761
and I've told kids, you know,
1215
00:56:28,835 --> 00:56:32,100
"You've got to take this AP,
this, you know, honors.
1216
00:56:32,172 --> 00:56:33,662
"You have to take
as many as you can,
1217
00:56:33,740 --> 00:56:36,232
"because we want to see
if you've taken total advantage
1218
00:56:36,309 --> 00:56:38,141
"of the opportunities
that are available to you
1219
00:56:38,211 --> 00:56:39,474
at your high school,"
1220
00:56:39,545 --> 00:56:42,776
and I don't think that we really
realize the pressure
1221
00:56:42,849 --> 00:56:46,251
and the stress that
is on these kids to perform.
1222
00:56:46,319 --> 00:56:49,880
We just know what the ultimate
goal is that we want,
1223
00:56:49,956 --> 00:56:51,446
and we want the top students,
1224
00:56:51,524 --> 00:56:53,390
because we are
a top institution,
1225
00:56:53,459 --> 00:56:58,056
but I wonder sometimes,
at the expense of what?
1226
00:57:06,573 --> 00:57:09,736
- So this is
a really striking statistic.
1227
00:57:09,809 --> 00:57:10,935
The University of California,
1228
00:57:11,010 --> 00:57:12,739
which is a tough school
to get into,
1229
00:57:12,812 --> 00:57:15,179
and Cal State schools
in California,
1230
00:57:15,248 --> 00:57:17,182
you need B average
for the state schools;
1231
00:57:17,250 --> 00:57:20,220
you need, sometimes,
over a 4.0 for the UCs.
1232
00:57:20,286 --> 00:57:24,587
They have to remediate 50%
of their admits.
1233
00:57:24,657 --> 00:57:26,989
What that means is,
almost half of the kids
1234
00:57:27,060 --> 00:57:28,653
who get into
the University of California
1235
00:57:28,728 --> 00:57:32,790
have to retake basic high school
level math or English
1236
00:57:32,865 --> 00:57:37,701
just to get to where they need
to be as university freshmen.
1237
00:57:37,770 --> 00:57:40,467
So how are they getting
these really high GPAs
1238
00:57:40,540 --> 00:57:43,943
and yet not being college ready?
1239
00:57:44,011 --> 00:57:46,309
They're doing school.
They're cheating.
1240
00:57:46,380 --> 00:57:48,940
They're spitting back but
not retaining the information,
1241
00:57:49,016 --> 00:57:51,280
and the schools
are not teaching, necessarily,
1242
00:57:51,352 --> 00:57:54,117
in a way that's preparing them
for college work.
1243
00:57:59,393 --> 00:58:02,920
- In high school,
I was definitely doing school.
1244
00:58:02,996 --> 00:58:04,259
I was in a situation
1245
00:58:04,331 --> 00:58:07,995
where I wanted to get
a good grade on a test,
1246
00:58:08,068 --> 00:58:12,027
and what that meant was learning
everything I needed to learn
1247
00:58:12,106 --> 00:58:14,131
the night or two nights
before the test
1248
00:58:14,208 --> 00:58:16,472
and making sure
that I could memorize it
1249
00:58:16,543 --> 00:58:19,240
and throw it back down
on a test,
1250
00:58:19,313 --> 00:58:22,840
and I would-l can't say
that more than two weeks later,
1251
00:58:22,916 --> 00:58:24,441
I knew what the information was,
1252
00:58:24,518 --> 00:58:26,953
but I know that I got
a good grade on that test.
1253
00:58:27,021 --> 00:58:29,217
When I got to college,
1254
00:58:29,289 --> 00:58:32,224
I was burned out
from high school.
1255
00:58:32,292 --> 00:58:34,090
Freshman year
was very difficult,
1256
00:58:34,161 --> 00:58:38,792
just adjusting to a new level
and knowing that no longer
1257
00:58:38,866 --> 00:58:41,801
was I getting ready for tests
like I was in high school.
1258
00:58:41,869 --> 00:58:46,238
I actually really had to know
this information inside and out,
1259
00:58:46,307 --> 00:58:49,675
and, you know, my grades
didn't reflect that I knew that,
1260
00:58:49,743 --> 00:58:54,146
and I ended up
getting really sad about it.
1261
00:58:54,215 --> 00:58:57,879
- I think there's a lot of sort
of hidden depression on campus.
1262
00:58:57,952 --> 00:58:59,010
I think a lot of students
1263
00:58:59,086 --> 00:59:01,783
will maybe secretly
take a quarter off,
1264
00:59:01,856 --> 00:59:03,119
or they'll take a quarter off
1265
00:59:03,190 --> 00:59:04,624
and only tell
their closest friends.
1266
00:59:04,691 --> 00:59:06,318
I've had a couple friends
do that,
1267
00:59:06,394 --> 00:59:09,455
and when they're here,
you have completely no idea
1268
00:59:09,530 --> 00:59:11,464
that they're
this stressed out or depressed.
1269
00:59:11,532 --> 00:59:13,261
- We have folks that are going
in the psych ward.
1270
00:59:13,334 --> 00:59:15,234
My dad works
at a psychiatric hospital
1271
00:59:15,302 --> 00:59:16,497
in Berkeley, California.
1272
00:59:16,570 --> 00:59:18,732
He said,
"I know when finals are.
1273
00:59:18,806 --> 00:59:21,707
I always know when finals are,
because we have to clear-
1274
00:59:21,775 --> 00:59:24,107
"we get all-our beds start
to fill up
1275
00:59:24,178 --> 00:59:26,704
with students
from the local university."
1276
00:59:26,780 --> 00:59:27,975
Parents come in and say,
1277
00:59:28,048 --> 00:59:29,812
"Well, they need to get up
and go do their work."
1278
00:59:29,884 --> 00:59:31,750
And my dad's like, "They can't."
1279
00:59:31,819 --> 00:59:33,651
"Well, they were a good kid."
1280
00:59:33,721 --> 00:59:34,847
No, they were a good performer.
1281
00:59:34,922 --> 00:59:36,754
You never knew
if they were a good kid.
1282
00:59:36,824 --> 00:59:39,589
You never found out if they were
a good, solid kid.
1283
00:59:39,660 --> 00:59:41,560
You knew they were
a good student.
1284
00:59:55,209 --> 00:59:56,735
- I would get very good grades
1285
00:59:56,811 --> 00:59:58,745
in elementary school
and junior high.
1286
00:59:58,813 --> 01:00:01,043
I was considered
to be very intelligent,
1287
01:00:01,116 --> 01:00:03,847
and my parents expected me
to get straight A's
1288
01:00:03,918 --> 01:00:07,081
and go to
a very prestigious college.
1289
01:00:07,155 --> 01:00:09,055
I was a cheerleader, a gymnast.
1290
01:00:09,124 --> 01:00:12,890
You know, I've played sports,
like, every year of my life.
1291
01:00:12,961 --> 01:00:16,761
I was getting my academic honors
diploma to graduate.
1292
01:00:16,832 --> 01:00:19,096
I had been working
really hard for that
1293
01:00:19,167 --> 01:00:22,933
up until my sophomore year,
and a teacher-
1294
01:00:23,004 --> 01:00:25,598
I've never been good in math,
and I needed his help.
1295
01:00:25,674 --> 01:00:28,871
I came in after school,
and he wouldn't help me,
1296
01:00:28,944 --> 01:00:32,244
so I failed that class and lost
my academic honors diploma,
1297
01:00:32,314 --> 01:00:35,841
which, you know, I needed,
1298
01:00:35,917 --> 01:00:37,851
'cause I wanted to go
to a really good college.
1299
01:00:37,919 --> 01:00:39,910
I wanted to make
my parents proud,
1300
01:00:39,988 --> 01:00:44,755
and so after that was gone,
1301
01:00:44,826 --> 01:00:48,456
I kind of gave up and stopped
attending school regularly.
1302
01:00:50,398 --> 01:00:53,197
It was definitely a huge blow
to my self-esteem
1303
01:00:53,268 --> 01:00:55,737
that I did not get the grade
that I wanted in math.
1304
01:00:55,804 --> 01:00:57,101
I had a tutor.
1305
01:00:57,172 --> 01:01:00,403
I was trying so hard,
and I still couldn't do it,
1306
01:01:00,475 --> 01:01:03,968
so I stopped trying, because if
you don't try, you can't fail.
1307
01:01:07,549 --> 01:01:12,111
I just thought everything that
I worked so hard for was over,
1308
01:01:12,187 --> 01:01:15,953
so it was really hard for me
to get up in the morning
1309
01:01:16,024 --> 01:01:18,118
and go to school.
1310
01:01:18,193 --> 01:01:20,355
My mom was worried about me
being expelled,
1311
01:01:20,428 --> 01:01:22,021
because I wasn't
going to school,
1312
01:01:22,097 --> 01:01:26,625
so she checked me
into a stress center
1313
01:01:26,701 --> 01:01:33,437
where I went for two weeks all
day until it got under control.
1314
01:01:35,076 --> 01:01:37,738
- I hope that taking some
of the pressure off
1315
01:01:37,812 --> 01:01:43,114
of Allison going to college
helped her make some progress.
1316
01:01:43,184 --> 01:01:44,549
Just because you don't
go to college
1317
01:01:44,619 --> 01:01:46,417
doesn't mean
you're a failure for life.
1318
01:01:46,488 --> 01:01:49,389
There's other options.
Maybe you go part-time.
1319
01:01:49,457 --> 01:01:51,221
Maybe you wait a couple years.
1320
01:01:51,292 --> 01:01:55,160
It's not the end of the world
if you don't fit the same mold
1321
01:01:55,230 --> 01:01:57,358
as everyone else.
1322
01:01:57,432 --> 01:02:02,529
So I'm glad if that helped her.
1323
01:02:02,604 --> 01:02:07,508
I wish I could help her more.
I just don't know how exactly.
1324
01:02:09,912 --> 01:02:14,816
- I am very disappointed
that there's no artistic,
1325
01:02:14,884 --> 01:02:19,446
right-brain kind of measurement
of talent and knowledge.
1326
01:02:19,522 --> 01:02:22,321
The SATs are about English
and math.
1327
01:02:22,391 --> 01:02:28,489
There's no standardized test
for art or just different ideas.
1328
01:02:28,564 --> 01:02:32,592
There's absolutely
no appreciation for that kind
1329
01:02:32,668 --> 01:02:37,230
of interest or thinking
or talent or knowledge.
1330
01:02:37,306 --> 01:02:39,638
I think success in America
1331
01:02:39,709 --> 01:02:42,235
is definitely defined
by how much money you've made,
1332
01:02:42,311 --> 01:02:45,076
not by how happy you are
with your life.
1333
01:02:45,147 --> 01:02:49,380
I mean, I just felt this
enormous pressure to grow up
1334
01:02:49,452 --> 01:02:51,853
and get a really big house,
but I don't know.
1335
01:02:51,921 --> 01:02:54,856
That's just not how it is
in other countries.
1336
01:02:54,924 --> 01:02:57,950
They're like, "Oh, okay,
so they have a modest living.
1337
01:02:58,027 --> 01:02:59,324
Cool."
1338
01:02:59,395 --> 01:03:01,261
But here it's like, "Okay,
well, if you don't earn
1339
01:03:01,330 --> 01:03:03,424
a lot of money,
something went wrong."
1340
01:03:05,167 --> 01:03:08,034
- The reason why kids want
to go to great colleges
1341
01:03:08,104 --> 01:03:10,402
is to get a great job
and to make a lot of money,
1342
01:03:10,473 --> 01:03:13,374
and I think people place
so much emphasis on making money
1343
01:03:13,443 --> 01:03:16,469
and watching TV and seeing
all the famous people
1344
01:03:16,545 --> 01:03:17,842
with their huge houses,
1345
01:03:17,914 --> 01:03:20,645
and everyone wants to be that
and have all of that,
1346
01:03:20,716 --> 01:03:21,911
and that's not really
1347
01:03:21,984 --> 01:03:23,509
what's gonna make people happy
in the end.
1348
01:03:23,586 --> 01:03:27,147
I think the whole culture
just kind of needs to revise
1349
01:03:27,223 --> 01:03:30,215
what is important
and what is not.
1350
01:03:30,393 --> 01:03:33,920
- The environment and
the culture is so competitive
1351
01:03:33,996 --> 01:03:36,431
that kids don't ever feel
they can let anyone
1352
01:03:36,499 --> 01:03:38,797
really see their true selves.
1353
01:03:38,868 --> 01:03:42,634
You can go online very easily
and start to understand
1354
01:03:42,705 --> 01:03:45,538
how success is defined
in our culture.
1355
01:03:45,608 --> 01:03:47,303
Part of it, I do think,
1356
01:03:47,376 --> 01:03:51,006
is this media
and technology-driven culture
1357
01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:54,448
where kids are creating
these identities online,
1358
01:03:54,517 --> 01:03:56,508
whether through Facebook or I.M.
1359
01:03:56,586 --> 01:03:58,486
or through
their YouTube accounts,
1360
01:03:58,554 --> 01:04:00,886
and it's very easy for them
1361
01:04:00,957 --> 01:04:04,689
to compare themselves
to their peers.
1362
01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:09,459
Kids are so trained
to say everything is good
1363
01:04:09,532 --> 01:04:12,524
and to look a certain way.
1364
01:04:12,768 --> 01:04:14,566
- It's hard for parents to see
1365
01:04:14,637 --> 01:04:17,004
when their children
are having difficulty.
1366
01:04:17,073 --> 01:04:20,441
It's not easily observable
when kids are in trouble now.
1367
01:04:20,510 --> 01:04:22,809
You go down
to the local supermarket,
1368
01:04:22,879 --> 01:04:25,712
and everybody's on line
talking about how fabulously
1369
01:04:25,782 --> 01:04:26,840
their kids are doing,
1370
01:04:26,917 --> 01:04:28,112
and I know it's not true,
1371
01:04:28,185 --> 01:04:30,051
'cause I see
a lot of their kids,
1372
01:04:30,120 --> 01:04:31,884
so, you know, there's, again,
1373
01:04:31,955 --> 01:04:34,117
even with the adults
in this community,
1374
01:04:34,191 --> 01:04:37,252
there's a tremendous need
to look as if, you know,
1375
01:04:37,327 --> 01:04:38,488
all is right with the world,
1376
01:04:38,562 --> 01:04:42,123
and that's really not
what community is about.
1377
01:04:42,199 --> 01:04:43,223
Community is like family.
1378
01:04:43,300 --> 01:04:47,828
You have to be able
to be who you are.
1379
01:04:47,904 --> 01:04:49,872
- I think we live in a culture
1380
01:04:49,940 --> 01:04:54,776
where all of us are trained
to say everything is good.
1381
01:04:54,845 --> 01:04:57,780
Jamey had been struggling
for a long time
1382
01:04:57,848 --> 01:05:00,783
and not letting anyone
really know.
1383
01:05:00,851 --> 01:05:04,310
She was feeling really bad
about herself.
1384
01:05:04,388 --> 01:05:06,982
- When a teacher tells me
that they don't like the grade
1385
01:05:07,057 --> 01:05:08,422
that I'm getting in that class,
1386
01:05:08,492 --> 01:05:11,427
it makes me feel kind of like
I'm not that smart.
1387
01:05:11,495 --> 01:05:13,987
- When this
all started happening
1388
01:05:14,064 --> 01:05:16,658
and I would go
into Jamey's school to say
1389
01:05:16,733 --> 01:05:19,896
that Jamey's struggling
and she's having these issues,
1390
01:05:19,970 --> 01:05:22,462
the response
I'd get over and over again is,
1391
01:05:22,539 --> 01:05:24,007
"She looks fine to us."
1392
01:05:24,074 --> 01:05:27,669
I so often was made to feel
like I was the only person
1393
01:05:27,744 --> 01:05:31,078
experiencing these issues
and that everybody else's kids
1394
01:05:31,148 --> 01:05:35,813
were doing soccer and juggling
their homework just fine.
1395
01:05:35,886 --> 01:05:39,754
- Recently, the stress
has been so bad at school,
1396
01:05:39,823 --> 01:05:42,690
sometimes I would come home
feeling really sick,
1397
01:05:42,759 --> 01:05:46,696
and one night I went to bed
at 5:00 p.m.,
1398
01:05:46,763 --> 01:05:49,425
and I didn't wake up
until the next morning.
1399
01:05:49,499 --> 01:05:52,696
- When Jamey was having
a really hard time
1400
01:05:52,770 --> 01:05:54,568
going to school one day,
you know,
1401
01:05:54,638 --> 01:05:56,265
I was trying to talk her
through it and said,
1402
01:05:56,340 --> 01:05:58,172
"We have to find a way
and a school
1403
01:05:58,242 --> 01:05:59,334
"that's gonna work for you,
1404
01:05:59,409 --> 01:06:01,741
because you have a lot of school
ahead of you,"
1405
01:06:01,812 --> 01:06:03,246
And her answer to me was,
1406
01:06:03,313 --> 01:06:05,213
"That's why I don't want
to live anymore,
1407
01:06:05,282 --> 01:06:07,216
"because I think about all
of the school
1408
01:06:07,284 --> 01:06:12,381
"that I have and how much
anxiety I feel being at school,
1409
01:06:12,456 --> 01:06:15,050
and I don't want to do that."
1410
01:06:15,125 --> 01:06:19,153
The doctor that we saw
in December, the pediatrician,
1411
01:06:19,229 --> 01:06:23,188
told us that we weren't getting
the same Jamey back.
1412
01:06:25,235 --> 01:06:27,431
And so I worry about that,
1413
01:06:27,504 --> 01:06:31,634
because I worry about-
for Jamey-
1414
01:06:31,708 --> 01:06:35,042
Jamey feels really
frustrated and angry,
1415
01:06:35,112 --> 01:06:37,878
and she doesn't always have
the ability to look long-term
1416
01:06:37,949 --> 01:06:40,350
and say, "Okay, this is
a really bad time,
1417
01:06:40,418 --> 01:06:41,817
"but I'm gonna get through this,
1418
01:06:41,886 --> 01:06:45,516
and there's still really good
times to look forward to."
1419
01:07:01,973 --> 01:07:04,874
- There's an increase in suicide
for the first time in decades,
1420
01:07:04,943 --> 01:07:08,607
a significant increase,
particularly among young girls.
1421
01:07:08,680 --> 01:07:10,842
We're seeing the fallout
of many things.
1422
01:07:10,915 --> 01:07:12,007
You know, you can never say
1423
01:07:12,083 --> 01:07:13,915
suicide is simply
about pressure,
1424
01:07:13,985 --> 01:07:15,578
but we do know that pressure
1425
01:07:15,653 --> 01:07:17,382
makes kids anxious
and depressed.
1426
01:07:17,455 --> 01:07:19,685
We do know that depression
leads to suicide,
1427
01:07:19,757 --> 01:07:23,785
and there's a higher rate and
a very worrisome acceleration
1428
01:07:23,861 --> 01:07:26,626
of suicide in this country.
1429
01:07:26,698 --> 01:07:29,133
I think we need
to pay attention to it.
1430
01:07:33,071 --> 01:07:37,702
- Devon, in sixth grade, she was
my very first lab partner.
1431
01:07:37,775 --> 01:07:39,300
I thought that she was
probably just,
1432
01:07:39,377 --> 01:07:40,503
like, the most perfect person,
1433
01:07:40,578 --> 01:07:41,977
and there were times
where I thought,
1434
01:07:42,046 --> 01:07:43,536
"Wow, I wish I was like Devon,"
1435
01:07:43,614 --> 01:07:47,915
'cause she is someone who was
just really good at everything.
1436
01:07:47,986 --> 01:07:51,320
What I noticed about her
was her great talent in music.
1437
01:07:51,389 --> 01:07:56,589
She played violin, and she also
played piano in jazz band.
1438
01:07:56,661 --> 01:08:01,497
I only realized she died
at the funeral.
1439
01:08:01,566 --> 01:08:05,230
I felt like she was gonna walk
through the door.
1440
01:08:08,540 --> 01:08:12,443
- Everything seemed
so very normal,
1441
01:08:12,510 --> 01:08:16,447
and the difficult thing is,
in many ways,
1442
01:08:16,514 --> 01:08:19,484
I thought I knew Devon
really well,
1443
01:08:19,550 --> 01:08:23,418
and, well, Scott would say,
1444
01:08:23,488 --> 01:08:24,978
"I don't know
what's going on with her."
1445
01:08:25,056 --> 01:08:27,047
I'd be like, "I do.
1446
01:08:27,125 --> 01:08:28,684
I was that child."
1447
01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:30,751
Scott actually went
to the school counselor,
1448
01:08:30,828 --> 01:08:32,694
and he said,
"I don't know my daughter.
1449
01:08:32,764 --> 01:08:34,493
What's happening?"
1450
01:08:34,566 --> 01:08:38,002
They said, "Oh, it's being 13."
1451
01:08:38,069 --> 01:08:39,764
And they're like,
"Oh, get used to that.
1452
01:08:39,837 --> 01:08:42,238
You've got another
five years of this."
1453
01:08:42,307 --> 01:08:43,672
So honestly,
1454
01:08:43,741 --> 01:08:47,234
we thought everything
was very, very normal.
1455
01:08:47,312 --> 01:08:50,977
Both: Eight, nine, ten.
- Jump!
1456
01:08:54,887 --> 01:08:57,015
- She always got great grades,
1457
01:08:57,089 --> 01:09:01,390
and she always
learned things easily.
1458
01:09:01,460 --> 01:09:06,022
Until you get to a certain age,
and it's just tough,
1459
01:09:06,098 --> 01:09:09,830
so even for smart kids,
1460
01:09:09,902 --> 01:09:13,304
I think sometimes
they put pressure on themselves.
1461
01:09:13,372 --> 01:09:16,933
If you've always had A's,
there's only one way to go,
1462
01:09:17,009 --> 01:09:22,641
and it's down, and so that B
feels like a failure.
1463
01:09:22,715 --> 01:09:27,016
Devon had always
been very good at math.
1464
01:09:27,086 --> 01:09:30,420
She really wanted
to be in advanced math,
1465
01:09:30,489 --> 01:09:35,086
and she did start
having a difficult time.
1466
01:09:35,160 --> 01:09:38,221
This was eighth grade algebra,
1467
01:09:38,297 --> 01:09:44,464
and she went
from having 100% to-
1468
01:09:44,536 --> 01:09:46,561
she came home one day,
and she said,
1469
01:09:46,638 --> 01:09:50,871
"I had this test,
and I got an F,"
1470
01:09:50,943 --> 01:09:51,876
and it was hard for her.
1471
01:09:51,944 --> 01:09:55,403
The weekend before she died,
1472
01:09:55,481 --> 01:09:59,281
she was literally
gonna be doing math homework.
1473
01:09:59,351 --> 01:10:03,151
That's what she was gonna be
doing on the Saturday morning.
1474
01:10:03,222 --> 01:10:08,683
You think that with suicide
that there are signals.
1475
01:10:08,761 --> 01:10:10,627
People tell you
there are signals.
1476
01:10:10,696 --> 01:10:12,528
I mean, they've said,
"Well, was she doing this?
1477
01:10:12,598 --> 01:10:14,362
"Was she doing-
did she give everything away?
1478
01:10:14,433 --> 01:10:16,765
Was she-
were there mood swings?"
1479
01:10:16,836 --> 01:10:20,830
And the answer to all
of those questions were no,
1480
01:10:20,906 --> 01:10:26,743
and that's what made it and
continues to make it so scary.
1481
01:10:26,812 --> 01:10:33,149
I looked at every phone call,
every email, every chat to say,
1482
01:10:33,219 --> 01:10:34,778
"What did we miss?
1483
01:10:34,854 --> 01:10:38,085
How could I possibly
have let this happen?"
1484
01:10:38,157 --> 01:10:42,526
And the only thing
I can think of is,
1485
01:10:42,595 --> 01:10:47,533
she did have
this internal pressure.
1486
01:10:47,600 --> 01:10:50,433
She was torn up about this math.
1487
01:10:50,502 --> 01:10:52,937
She was torn up about-
"I can't do it."
1488
01:10:53,005 --> 01:10:56,498
And here is a child who
had always been so successful
1489
01:10:56,575 --> 01:11:02,106
on so many fronts,
and a stupid math grade.
1490
01:11:11,391 --> 01:11:16,955
All I know is, it's a lot harder
being a teenager
1491
01:11:17,030 --> 01:11:20,830
than I think it ever was for us,
1492
01:11:20,901 --> 01:11:24,929
and whether it's grades,
whether it's, "Are you popular?
1493
01:11:25,005 --> 01:11:28,964
Are you fitting in?"
1494
01:11:29,042 --> 01:11:32,342
l just - l don't know.
1495
01:12:06,513 --> 01:12:10,882
- Seeing how Jamey had changed
from being a happy-go-lucky kid
1496
01:12:10,951 --> 01:12:14,785
to not being able to
get out of bed in the morning,
1497
01:12:14,854 --> 01:12:19,189
it became clear we needed
to change her school.
1498
01:12:19,259 --> 01:12:22,456
Right now, for me, success
is just getting her health back.
1499
01:12:22,529 --> 01:12:26,989
- At the new school, I was
really excited to get there,
1500
01:12:27,067 --> 01:12:29,968
and then a few weeks later,
I guess I figured out-
1501
01:12:30,036 --> 01:12:31,834
like, it clicked
that it was still school
1502
01:12:31,905 --> 01:12:33,498
and I still had to do
lots of work,
1503
01:12:33,573 --> 01:12:38,033
so now I'm still
kind of stressed out.
1504
01:12:38,111 --> 01:12:42,947
- I started to wonder whether
when I was trying to ensure
1505
01:12:43,016 --> 01:12:46,008
that my kids had
a stable and secure future,
1506
01:12:46,086 --> 01:12:48,111
we had gone too far
in one direction
1507
01:12:48,188 --> 01:12:50,953
and had been doing
more harm than good.
1508
01:12:51,024 --> 01:12:55,188
It's only after you've been
a parent for a while
1509
01:12:55,262 --> 01:12:57,196
that you can look back and say,
1510
01:12:57,264 --> 01:12:59,699
"I wish I had this
to do over again."
1511
01:12:59,766 --> 01:13:03,669
Doug and I have implemented
a lot of changes in our home.
1512
01:13:03,737 --> 01:13:07,765
We don't ask about homework.
We don't ask about grades.
1513
01:13:07,841 --> 01:13:11,243
We advocate at our kids' schools
for less homework
1514
01:13:11,311 --> 01:13:14,645
and more time
to play after school.
1515
01:13:14,714 --> 01:13:18,015
We've always made sure
to have family dinners together.
1516
01:13:18,085 --> 01:13:20,816
I really hope that these things
have a positive impact
1517
01:13:20,888 --> 01:13:24,153
on our kids and the way
they feel about their childhood,
1518
01:13:24,225 --> 01:13:26,990
and yet, it's really hard
to do this alone.
1519
01:13:30,898 --> 01:13:35,301
- We have an opportunity
to change the way
1520
01:13:35,369 --> 01:13:38,999
that we conceive
of being successful for kids,
1521
01:13:39,073 --> 01:13:40,268
and it takes bravery.
1522
01:13:40,341 --> 01:13:42,469
You're swimming against
the popular culture.
1523
01:13:42,543 --> 01:13:44,033
You're swimming
against the stream.
1524
01:13:49,784 --> 01:13:52,583
- Why did we want
to start a school?
1525
01:13:52,653 --> 01:13:56,453
First of all, you start with,
you've got to be crazy, okay?
1526
01:13:56,524 --> 01:13:59,585
So we qualify there.
1527
01:13:59,661 --> 01:14:03,427
Our question is,
why can't we have children
1528
01:14:03,498 --> 01:14:08,060
who love going to school
all the way through 12th grade?
1529
01:14:08,136 --> 01:14:13,802
Why can't we have happiness
be as important a metric
1530
01:14:13,875 --> 01:14:18,437
as reading skills
and math scores?
1531
01:14:18,512 --> 01:14:22,142
It's something
about respecting the child
1532
01:14:22,216 --> 01:14:26,244
in a different way
than our existing system.
1533
01:14:26,320 --> 01:14:29,119
The idea of having a kid
sit at his desk
1534
01:14:29,190 --> 01:14:31,887
with his hands folded
staring out for X number
1535
01:14:31,959 --> 01:14:35,054
of hours a day
just being so antiquated.
1536
01:14:35,129 --> 01:14:37,359
- Then, Charles,
what's going on up here?
1537
01:14:37,432 --> 01:14:40,629
- That's the blue guy's
spaceship.
1538
01:14:40,701 --> 01:14:43,102
- These kids come to the table
with this creativity
1539
01:14:43,171 --> 01:14:47,438
and this drive and this love
of life and love of learning.
1540
01:14:47,508 --> 01:14:50,409
Let's just not
take it out of them.
1541
01:14:50,478 --> 01:14:52,276
How about that?
1542
01:14:52,346 --> 01:14:54,713
- The model that we're using
at Blue School
1543
01:14:54,782 --> 01:14:56,216
really takes the best practices
1544
01:14:56,284 --> 01:14:59,219
that exist
in many different contexts.
1545
01:14:59,287 --> 01:15:02,188
We looked a lot at Reggio Amilia
and emerging curriculums,
1546
01:15:02,256 --> 01:15:04,384
so a lot of the theories
and the threads
1547
01:15:04,458 --> 01:15:07,860
that our teachers explore come
from the children themselves.
1548
01:15:07,929 --> 01:15:10,694
- We want our kids
to be great readers.
1549
01:15:10,765 --> 01:15:13,359
We want them to be able
to do math at high levels.
1550
01:15:13,434 --> 01:15:15,493
It's just, how do you get there?
1551
01:15:15,570 --> 01:15:17,595
- We're also looking
at Howard Gardner's
1552
01:15:17,672 --> 01:15:21,267
multiple intelligence theories
and infusing a lot of values
1553
01:15:21,342 --> 01:15:24,778
of creativity
and entrepreneurial thinking,
1554
01:15:24,846 --> 01:15:27,042
and then, of course, the social
and emotional component,
1555
01:15:27,115 --> 01:15:28,777
which is, you know,
one of the core values
1556
01:15:28,851 --> 01:15:30,478
that we have at our school.
1557
01:15:30,552 --> 01:15:36,457
- The schools of tomorrow
may not resemble a lot
1558
01:15:36,525 --> 01:15:40,758
of what they looked like
the past 100 years,
1559
01:15:40,829 --> 01:15:43,821
but, hey, the world
is not resembling
1560
01:15:43,899 --> 01:15:46,425
what it looked like
the last 100 years either.
1561
01:15:48,871 --> 01:15:50,168
- So our first task, I think,
1562
01:15:50,239 --> 01:15:52,037
is for people
to really understand
1563
01:15:52,107 --> 01:15:54,337
that we have
a very serious problem
1564
01:15:54,409 --> 01:15:57,538
and that the economic future
of the country,
1565
01:15:57,613 --> 01:16:01,743
the well-being of the country,
depends on our addressing this.
1566
01:16:01,817 --> 01:16:03,649
The second thing I think
they have to understand
1567
01:16:03,719 --> 01:16:05,244
is that it's not an easy fix.
1568
01:16:05,320 --> 01:16:07,482
It's not fine-tuning this
1569
01:16:07,556 --> 01:16:09,615
or an extra year
of teacher training
1570
01:16:09,692 --> 01:16:12,389
or teach for America or KIPP
or vouchers
1571
01:16:12,461 --> 01:16:14,395
or any of the things,
which all of which
1572
01:16:14,463 --> 01:16:16,124
may contribute to the answer
1573
01:16:16,198 --> 01:16:19,168
but none of which alone
is going to be the solution.
1574
01:16:19,234 --> 01:16:20,599
- It's the complexity
of the problem
1575
01:16:20,669 --> 01:16:22,000
that people
get overwhelmed with.
1576
01:16:22,071 --> 01:16:23,596
You know, we could fix it,
1577
01:16:23,672 --> 01:16:28,200
but it requires really being
willing to do a lot of things
1578
01:16:28,277 --> 01:16:31,907
pretty close together
and change our culture
1579
01:16:31,980 --> 01:16:33,414
in some pretty substantial ways
1580
01:16:33,482 --> 01:16:37,282
and our expectations
and put large resources in.
1581
01:16:38,954 --> 01:16:42,254
- There's a school in Wyoming
that abolished homework
1582
01:16:42,324 --> 01:16:43,951
after reading
the two homework books
1583
01:16:44,026 --> 01:16:45,187
that came out two years ago.
1584
01:16:45,260 --> 01:16:47,092
The elementary school principal
just read them.
1585
01:16:47,162 --> 01:16:49,062
She thought, "That makes sense,"
and she did it.
1586
01:16:49,131 --> 01:16:52,192
She started with a trial period,
and then it worked so well
1587
01:16:52,267 --> 01:16:55,862
that she just eliminated
homework for K through five.
1588
01:16:55,938 --> 01:16:59,636
So I think that an educator
has an ethical responsibility.
1589
01:16:59,708 --> 01:17:02,040
I think a parent
has a responsibility
1590
01:17:02,110 --> 01:17:04,875
to really care
about the child's physical,
1591
01:17:04,947 --> 01:17:07,348
mental, emotional well-being,
1592
01:17:07,416 --> 01:17:09,475
and so they have
to stand up for them,
1593
01:17:09,551 --> 01:17:11,383
'cause they can't
stand up for themselves.
1594
01:17:11,453 --> 01:17:12,511
- All over the country,
1595
01:17:12,588 --> 01:17:14,181
there are parents
that are fighting this.
1596
01:17:14,256 --> 01:17:17,658
You know, there are schools
who have eliminated AP courses.
1597
01:17:17,726 --> 01:17:21,094
1/3 of the colleges in America
have now either eliminated
1598
01:17:21,163 --> 01:17:24,497
the SAT or have modified
the use of the SAT.
1599
01:17:24,566 --> 01:17:27,001
There are changes
going on everywhere.
1600
01:17:27,069 --> 01:17:29,663
- It takes somebody to say,
1601
01:17:29,738 --> 01:17:32,639
"Maybe we'll stop grading
the kids, you know?"
1602
01:17:32,708 --> 01:17:34,642
That sounds radical,
but in reality,
1603
01:17:34,710 --> 01:17:36,269
if you get rid of grades,
1604
01:17:36,345 --> 01:17:39,440
then you can really start
to assess what students know,
1605
01:17:39,515 --> 01:17:41,575
and you can really start
to think about education
1606
01:17:41,651 --> 01:17:43,517
as more than just a grade.
1607
01:17:43,586 --> 01:17:45,111
- Why can't there
be something like that,
1608
01:17:45,188 --> 01:17:47,520
where you're evaluated
by students, teachers,
1609
01:17:47,590 --> 01:17:50,719
the principal, and there's sort
of a compilation of sort of
1610
01:17:50,793 --> 01:17:52,625
what you've done
and what you've accomplished,
1611
01:17:52,695 --> 01:17:54,322
a portfolio system.
1612
01:17:54,397 --> 01:17:57,890
- You can put as much money
as you want into schools,
1613
01:17:57,968 --> 01:18:00,027
but if you don't change
the ideology
1614
01:18:00,103 --> 01:18:02,663
of what makes
a good educational system,
1615
01:18:02,739 --> 01:18:05,367
what type of individual
are we trying to create?
1616
01:18:05,442 --> 01:18:09,345
If you don't prioritize,
you know, classes,
1617
01:18:09,412 --> 01:18:11,506
agendas
that do character development,
1618
01:18:11,581 --> 01:18:14,107
that give kids free time,
unscheduled time,
1619
01:18:14,184 --> 01:18:17,017
if you don't prioritize
making cities safe enough
1620
01:18:17,086 --> 01:18:19,214
so that parents can let
their kids have unscheduled time
1621
01:18:19,289 --> 01:18:21,314
to roam around
in the first place-
1622
01:18:21,391 --> 01:18:23,655
taking the responsibility
for raising kids
1623
01:18:23,726 --> 01:18:26,093
out of advertisers'
and corporate hands,
1624
01:18:26,162 --> 01:18:28,859
giving parents
more time off work.
1625
01:18:28,932 --> 01:18:30,798
It's a social issue.
1626
01:18:30,867 --> 01:18:33,268
- The biggest thing
that needs to change is,
1627
01:18:33,336 --> 01:18:35,304
we need to look at kids
as individuals,
1628
01:18:35,371 --> 01:18:38,068
and we need to redefine
success for kids.
1629
01:18:38,141 --> 01:18:41,975
You know, I have two wonderful,
early teenage daughters.
1630
01:18:42,045 --> 01:18:44,275
I got to tell you
that I have anxiety sometimes
1631
01:18:44,347 --> 01:18:47,840
because I'm like,
"So they're really happy,
1632
01:18:47,917 --> 01:18:50,284
"but are they gonna still get
into the good college?
1633
01:18:50,353 --> 01:18:51,514
Am I making a mistake?"
1634
01:18:51,588 --> 01:18:53,215
I'm having trouble with this,
1635
01:18:53,290 --> 01:18:56,726
and I'm writing books
on this stuff.
1636
01:18:56,793 --> 01:18:59,160
The reality is that we can
create a system
1637
01:18:59,229 --> 01:19:01,857
that will still educate
our kids,
1638
01:19:01,931 --> 01:19:04,332
probably
educate our kids better,
1639
01:19:04,401 --> 01:19:06,028
without stressing them as much.
1640
01:19:06,102 --> 01:19:08,469
We have to get off
this treadmill together.
1641
01:19:08,538 --> 01:19:11,530
We need to really think,
"What does it take
1642
01:19:11,608 --> 01:19:18,981
to produce a happy, motivated,
creative human being?"
1643
01:19:21,017 --> 01:19:23,008
- I think music is good
for anybody.
1644
01:19:23,086 --> 01:19:26,818
Any type of artistic activity
is healthy.
1645
01:19:26,890 --> 01:19:30,349
I plan to, like,
be a teacher and then, like,
1646
01:19:30,427 --> 01:19:34,830
kind of do this on the side
as a hobby.
1647
01:19:34,898 --> 01:19:38,357
- A couple weeks ago,
there was a homework-free night
1648
01:19:38,434 --> 01:19:39,902
at Zakary's school,
1649
01:19:39,969 --> 01:19:42,461
and it was like having
a different kid on my hands.
1650
01:19:42,539 --> 01:19:45,065
He was excited.
He could go out and play.
1651
01:19:45,141 --> 01:19:48,008
And later that night,
he commented to me
1652
01:19:48,077 --> 01:19:50,944
that if every day
there wasn't homework,
1653
01:19:51,014 --> 01:19:53,574
he would love school.
1654
01:19:53,650 --> 01:19:57,884
- Letting Sam choose
to leave Sam Ramon High School,
1655
01:19:57,955 --> 01:19:59,013
it was hard.
1656
01:19:59,089 --> 01:20:00,716
It was harder for me
than it was for him.
1657
01:20:00,791 --> 01:20:03,283
He knew he was gonna
graduate from high school.
1658
01:20:03,360 --> 01:20:05,522
He knew he was gonna go
to community college.
1659
01:20:05,596 --> 01:20:07,963
So he's going now to Venture,
1660
01:20:08,032 --> 01:20:10,330
which is an alternative
public school.
1661
01:20:10,401 --> 01:20:14,201
It's self-study, where they
meet the teacher once a week.
1662
01:20:14,271 --> 01:20:18,230
I think the fear is there that
if they don't take that path,
1663
01:20:18,309 --> 01:20:20,437
they may stray,
1664
01:20:20,511 --> 01:20:24,072
but then sometimes straying
is what they need to do.
1665
01:20:24,148 --> 01:20:26,344
- If everything goes wrong,
1666
01:20:26,417 --> 01:20:30,581
there's still something I can do
to get where I want to be.
1667
01:20:30,655 --> 01:20:32,885
Learning that took a long time
1668
01:20:32,957 --> 01:20:36,291
and a lot of visits
to the hospital,
1669
01:20:36,360 --> 01:20:40,092
a lot of therapy,
but it was definitely worth it.
1670
01:20:40,164 --> 01:20:43,156
I'm really happy
now not having to worry
1671
01:20:43,234 --> 01:20:44,759
about what other people
think of me
1672
01:20:44,835 --> 01:20:47,031
and what kind of success
I'm supposed to achieve.
1673
01:20:50,274 --> 01:20:52,174
- I took a couple years off
1674
01:20:52,242 --> 01:20:54,176
after high school
before starting college.
1675
01:20:54,245 --> 01:20:56,771
I'm actually applying to college
as a freshman this year.
1676
01:20:56,847 --> 01:20:59,373
A lot of my friends were
burned out after high school,
1677
01:20:59,450 --> 01:21:00,781
but they went straight
to college,
1678
01:21:00,851 --> 01:21:03,218
and I'm finding that
a lot of them are dropping out
1679
01:21:03,287 --> 01:21:05,278
to take their time off now.
1680
01:21:05,356 --> 01:21:08,451
- When our son comes home
from school now,
1681
01:21:08,526 --> 01:21:10,927
where in the past,
we would have said,
1682
01:21:10,995 --> 01:21:12,861
"What homework do you have?"
and so on,
1683
01:21:12,930 --> 01:21:16,423
I deliberately ask him,
"So how was school?"
1684
01:21:16,500 --> 01:21:18,093
And he'll tell me all the work,
and I'll say,
1685
01:21:18,169 --> 01:21:22,003
"What did you have for lunch,
and who did you play with?"
1686
01:21:22,073 --> 01:21:27,443
and try to put the focus
in an entirely different area,
1687
01:21:27,511 --> 01:21:30,344
because otherwise,
it's all about the math test
1688
01:21:30,414 --> 01:21:36,581
and the homework,
and we forget about being a kid.
1689
01:23:45,584 --> 01:23:47,416
♪ - When I was a child ♪
1690
01:23:47,486 --> 01:23:49,887
♪ Everybody smiled ♪
1691
01:23:49,955 --> 01:23:53,687
♪ Nobody knows me at all ♪
1692
01:23:53,758 --> 01:23:55,624
♪ Very late at night ♪
1693
01:23:55,694 --> 01:23:58,220
♪ And in the morning light ♪
1694
01:23:58,296 --> 01:24:01,857
♪ Nobody knows me at all ♪
1695
01:24:01,933 --> 01:24:03,958
♪ Now I got lots of friends ♪
1696
01:24:04,035 --> 01:24:06,629
♪ Yes, but then again ♪
1697
01:24:06,705 --> 01:24:10,232
♪ Nobody knows me at all ♪
1698
01:24:10,308 --> 01:24:12,276
♪ Kids and a wife ♪
1699
01:24:12,344 --> 01:24:14,972
♪ It's a beautiful life ♪
1700
01:24:15,047 --> 01:24:18,415
♪ Nobody knows me at all ♪
1701
01:24:18,483 --> 01:24:26,118
♪ And, oh, ♪
♪ when the lights are low ♪
1702
01:24:26,192 --> 01:24:29,321
♪ Oh ♪
1703
01:24:29,395 --> 01:24:35,129
♪ With someone I don't know, ♪
♪ oh ♪
1704
01:24:35,201 --> 01:24:36,999
♪ I don't give a damn ♪
1705
01:24:37,070 --> 01:24:39,801
♪ I'm happy as a clam ♪
1706
01:24:39,872 --> 01:24:43,775
♪ Nobody knows me at all ♪
1707
01:24:43,843 --> 01:24:45,106
♪ Ah, what can you do ♪
1708
01:24:45,178 --> 01:24:48,079
♪ There's nobody like you ♪
1709
01:24:48,147 --> 01:24:52,277
♪ Nobody knows me at all ♪
1710
01:25:08,568 --> 01:25:10,366
♪ I know how you feel ♪
1711
01:25:10,436 --> 01:25:12,996
♪ No secrets to reveal ♪
1712
01:25:13,072 --> 01:25:16,736
♪ Nobody knows me at all ♪
1713
01:25:16,809 --> 01:25:18,538
♪ Very late at night ♪
1714
01:25:18,611 --> 01:25:21,205
♪ And in the morning light ♪
1715
01:25:21,280 --> 01:25:25,410
♪ Nobody knows me at all ♪
1716
01:25:25,485 --> 01:25:27,385
♪ Nobody knows me ♪
1717
01:25:27,453 --> 01:25:29,649
♪ Nobody knows me ♪
1718
01:25:29,722 --> 01:25:31,918
♪ Nobody knows me at all ♪
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