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SOUND OF SPEEDBALL BEING PUNCHED
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When I was a small child, my father
took me to a movie, and the movie was
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called Joe Palooka.
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I was about six at the time, and
I was very impressed by this movie,
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because in it, they trained this
young guy to be a champion boxer.
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Coming out of the movie, I can
remember my dad is holding my hand,
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and I said to him, one day I'm
going to train a man to be the world
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champion boxer.
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And I remember my dad stopped and
looked down at me, and he said to me,
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well knowing you
Tony, you probably will.
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I got this new manager,
and she said to me, what do you want?
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I said, I want you to get me a boxer.
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I also had this thing about Las
Vegas that I didn't want to get into
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things, even relationships, too
deeply, because one day I would have
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to go to Las Vegas
and start a new life.
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So when Colette rang
me on the phone and said,
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I've got your boxer, and
I said, where is it gonna be?
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She said, Las Vegas.
I knew we couldn't lose then.
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It was all over in my mind, I
was there and we were going to win,
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and that was the end of it.
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Joe, where you going, pal?
I don't know.
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I hate to go back home.
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You ain't going back home.
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I just signed you
up for another fight.
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You'll be a sensation.
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Guess who you're gonna fight?
Guess who?
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Who?
The champion.
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Just listen to the
roars from the Irish crowd.
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Welcome to the
lion's den, Chris Eubank.
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This is a tough,
battle hardened fighter.
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I said at 14 years old that
I would become a world champion and
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I'd never boxed before and it shows
you that the universe is listening
to you.
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And it doesn't emphasise the
humour, I could have been joking and
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it gives you what you ask.
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These are desperate moments...
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Just one more punch
like that from Eubank.
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Collins must stand off
to get through this round.
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Eubank strutting his stuff.
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This is mind games.
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He has now convinced
everybody here that he is the man.
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He's the champion.
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It's the Chris Eubank show.
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I gotta take this away.
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The right hand's got Collins!
The right hand's got Collins!
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What a cracking contest!
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From Brattan, the reigning WBL super
middle-weight champion of the world,
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Chris Eubank.
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The boxing business, you know, it's
not about great promoters or great
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trainers, it's about great fighters,
because great fighters make promoters
great.
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They make trainers great.
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On their own, we would
disappear into oblivion.
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We need talent.
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And Eubank was top of the tree when
it comes to selling his own form of
talent.
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What are we looking for?
We're looking for entertainment,
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that is interesting.
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You're doing something where you
have the control to do what, to
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engross, you know, the eyes.
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You know, how do I
win the hearts, you know?
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How do I get people to
sit up on their seats like this?
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You know, I can
remember watching fights.
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I'm not watching the fight, I'm
watching one guy, every time the
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camera comes around and the
guy is just sitting like that.
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I want to get that man to move.
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I don't want him to just sit there.
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I want to get him...
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How do I move my audience?
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We're at the start of a
fabulous adventure on Sky Sports.
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Mauricio Amaral.
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Some people say that Eubank must be
insane to try this, eight fights in
a year.
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Sam Storey.
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He's got a tremendous right
hand, he's got big heart, and he's
different.
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Dangerous Dan Schommer.
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Very much the star
attraction tonight, Eubank.
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Henry Wharton.
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He's still the man in charge of this
WBO super middleweight division.
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Would you please welcome into the
ring, the boxers of the WBO super
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middleweight
championship of the world.
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First the
challenger for the title...
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For me, Chris Eubank wasn't a boxer.
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You know, he wasn't, he wasn't, you
wouldn't say he had a great punch
either.
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He just didn't like boxing me
because he knew I was a boxer, not a
fighter.
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Belfast loves boxers,
Belfast loves a trier.
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Belfast loves people
who give their all in the ring.
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Belfast cannot stand somebody who
struts, who is arrogant, and they
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love to see somebody like
that go on the seat of their pants.
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Ray Close fought him twice.
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Thought he beat him the first
time, but didn't get the decision.
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He fought him the second time.
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You know, didn't
fight as well the second time.
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And Ray Close felt
he won it, but I didn't.
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So they were
going for a third fight.
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There was a deal that would
have netted him 1.6 million pounds,
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he would have been made for life.
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However, Ray did go for a routine
brain scan in the Royal Victoria
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Hospital, and a couple of
days afterwards, Barney Eastwood
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travelled up to his house in Bangor,
and he broke the bad news that they
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had discovered lesions on his brain.
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So in essence, the British Boxing
Board of Control intervened and says
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that they were going
to take away his license.
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The fight that didn't happen...
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That long ago.
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Well, gentlemen, thank you
very much for your understanding.
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I think Ray is to be congratulated
for turning up today, and let's wish
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him best in luck in
whatever he does from here.
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You have a devastated Ray Close
having the face of the cameras.
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His career was in ruins, it was a
cruel spectacle, an absolutely awful
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spectacle to behold.
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I remember that press conference,
you know, and it was really sad.
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It was, it was tragic
to see Ray Close there.
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I was kind of very uncomfortable
watching one man whose career is
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ending and another man who's just
been handed the opportunity of a
lifetime.
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If it wasn't bad enough that your
career and your livelihood was
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shattered by the MRI scan, and
you had to sit there at that press
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conference between Barney Eastwood
and Barry Hearn, you know, you'd
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nothing to say,
you'd nothing to add.
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You just felt
like a bit part player.
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And then Close is asked to vacate
the seat so Collins can sit in the
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middle of the two mega promoters.
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I went through the WBO top 10, I
went through the WBC top 20, or the
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IBF top 12, and the WBA top 15.
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And then, really, I have to
say, there was only one meaningful
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contest that could be made, in such
a way to guarantee value for money
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for everyone, and at the same
time, provide a meaningful fight.
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They needed a replacement.
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And I seem to be the guy who was
replacing everybody throughout my
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career, you know.
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Getting the fight and
getting there was like a Rocky story.
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It was like a movie.
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Stephen loved it.
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He loved the boxing.
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Honest to God, he
was just -- he loved it.
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He never used to go out, you know,
the way the lads do go out dancing
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and going here, there --
boxing was his, was his passion.
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I had my first
fight when I was eight.
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So basically a
club in the city centre.
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I remember the kids that were there
against me from the neighbourhood,
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and I was there, I felt like on
my own going into the lion's den,
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everything about it appealed to me.
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I knew there and then
this is what I was gonna do.
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I wanted him to get a trade, oh he
loved the boxing, and that was it.
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But he didn't make it his life.
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In the beginning, he got an
apprenticeship as electrician.
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He was happy boxing, and he
was happy training, and it was no
bother.
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There was no big deal about it.
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We didn't think he was going to be a
world title or anything like that,
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but he was very good.
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My father had just passed away
recently, and I thought to myself,
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I can make my own decisions
now and do what I want to do.
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So I gave up my job, a very good job,
which my dad probably wouldn't have
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let me give up if he was around.
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And I said, now's the time to make
the change and go to the States and
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become a professional boxer.
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Marvin Hagler was the middleweight
champion of the world at the time.
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I watched Marvin
Hagler, I loved his style.
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I wanted to learn
to fight like he fought.
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I believed his style would suit
me, so I decided that I'm gonna, you
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know, pack my bags and go over to the
United States and train with Marvin
Hagler.
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So I settled in Boston,
Massachusetts, got a little
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apartment, got a job.
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One evening, I drove
to Brockton, Massachusetts.
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I was introduced to Goody Petronelli,
and I said, I'm gonna take over from
Marvin.
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Anybody else you say that to
them, they think you're a lunatic.
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But he went, that's great, and
welcome into our gym, I'm delighted
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to have you here,
so he believed in me.
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Goody Petronelli was a very positive
person, and he's a very clever, wise
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man, and he gave me confidence.
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You know, it was a
great start in my career.
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Hadn't seen him in two years.
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And when I walked into the
Petronelli's gym, you know, as I
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say, they were training
some of the best fighters.
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They were giving him the education.
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And I looked at my brother
Stephen, and I was in awe,
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I actually was like,
is that my brother?
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He looked to me like
somebody I'd watch on TV.
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I was a sports writer for
the Sunday Tribune at the time.
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I'd covered his career when he was
in America, there were probably five
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reporters covering boxing for the
Irish newspapers at the time, and
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it's not like today, where
you're sort of kept remote from the
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fighters or from any
sportsperson that you're covering.
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So we got to know
each other quite well.
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When I went to cover the fight in
New Jersey, I was staying with some
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friends in New York, just sleeping
on the floor, and kind of two days
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before the fight, Steve rang to say,
I've got you a deal in the hotel,
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which was the
Meadowlands Hilton in New Jersey.
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And I was broke, I was a freelance
journalist at the time, so it was a
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really decent thing to do,
especially that's, you know,
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so close to the fight.
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So we, you know, we'd
become good friends at that stage.
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I had the mindset
that this can happen.
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All I ever needed
was two weeks notice.
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You know, if someone came to me and
said, you know, in a week, two weeks
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time, there's an opening there, you
know, for Collins, if he wants to
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take it, I was always ready.
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I got a phone call to say that
Michael Watson had broken his nose in
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preparation for a
fight against Mike McCallum.
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They needed someone to stand
in as substitute, will I take it?
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And of course,
I jumped at the opportunity.
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The chance to fight for the world
title against a great fighter was
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something that every
young fighter dreamed of.
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This is Animo Terrace in Cabra, where
my father grew up and where I grew
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up, as far as I'm concerned, this is
where the next middleweight champion
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of the world is coming from, which I
believe is going to be me, Stephen
Collins.
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On February the 4th, this place is
going to be a lit up with lights, and
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there's going to be flags and
bunting out, and everybody's going to
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celebrate my victory.
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I'm sorry about that
Michael McCallum, that's it.
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At the time, Steve,
I think was like a novice.
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Mike McCallum, I think was 33,
34 fights, you know, probably 30
knockouts.
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Everybody thought it
was a huge jump, a huge step.
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I reckon I learned more in the one
fight with him than I probably had in
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my five previous fights.
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He put together combinations.
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I felt like standing back
and saying, show us that again.
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That was just, you
know, he took me to school.
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The Mike McCallum
fight was really interesting.
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I mean, Steve lost a unanimous
decision, but that was the fight
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that really put him into the,
what they call the "who needs him"
category.
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You know, there's no real sort of
commercial advantage in fighting
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them, like you won't make millions
from them, because they're not
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personalities, and at the same time,
there's a chance that you might lose
to them.
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In Britain, you had Nigel Benn,
Chris Eubank, Michael Watson, on
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prime time television
every Saturday night, practically.
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But Steve was in America,
not making a huge amount of money.
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Nigel Benn rewrote British
middleweight boxing in America,
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because this guy came over
and smashed and beat up the best
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middleweights they had in
America and took all the titles.
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And went back to London, Chris
Eubank then, who beat Nigel Benn.
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He became the big name, and I
was, I was just left out on my own,
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so I had to move from America and
return back to Europe and start all
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over again and try and break into the
scene over here, which I knew was
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going to be hard, but it
was a lot harder than I expected.
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When I approached managers and
promoters in the UK, they had no
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hesitation signing me up, so they
could prevent me or let me fight
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their fighters, I was under their
control, so they now owned the danger
man.
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So it was always
going to be hard for me.
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I was with Barry Hearn in the early
90s, and I was number one contender
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for the middleweight title,
WBO middleweight, and the current
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champion was a guy called Chris
Pyatt, but we were both managed and
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promoted by the same company, and he
was never going to fight me because
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his manager was my manager, and it
wasn't allowed to happen until one
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day Chris Pyatt jumped
ship and went to Frank Warren.
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Barry Hearn came straight to me
and said, that fight's gonna happen.
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This fight against Chris Pyatt,
he was offered it, he took it.
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He beat Chris Pyatt, and still there
weren't, you know, there were no
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million dollar fights
being offered to him afterwards.
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So he did, I think he did have a
sense at that point of his career
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that he was a journeyman,
despite being a world champion.
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He hadn't made a lot of money.
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I remember he was trying to build a
house at the time in Dublin, and,
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you know, was actively talking about
how he needed purses to build this
house.
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He'd had two world title fights,
and he was still living in a rented
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house in Swords.
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He phoned me sometime in the summer
of 1994 and he'd had this idea that
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he wanted to write a book, and he
asked me, would I help him with it?
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He had a couple of fights arranged.
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He was going to fight an American
called Lonnie Beasley, and the fight
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was supposed to happen in Hong Kong.
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And these are the early chapters
of the book, and they're all about
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Steve's preparation for the fight.
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So I spent quite a
lot of time with him.
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And then, you know, 24 hours,
48 hours before the fight we're
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suddenly told the fight's off.
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Steve's fight then was rescheduled
for Boston, seven weeks later.
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As the fight got closer, there was a
kind of nervousness about Steve, and
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it turned out that one of the
Petronelli brothers with whom he had
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a historical contractual dispute,
was going to court to try to seize
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his purse from the fight, and
suddenly there's this doubt about
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whether the fight would go ahead.
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The day before the weigh in,
I just, I lost all my strength.
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I couldn't get out of bed.
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I just became very lethargic, and
they had to call for a doctor, and
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the doctor said, under no
circumstances was he gonna allow this
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fight to go ahead.
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At that time then I just thought,
you know, my boxing career was over.
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I returned home
after that, on a real downer.
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I was despairing, I thought there's
no book here, you know, because
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there's no story, like you can't
write a boxing book in which there's
no boxing.
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This is a year in a boxer's life,
and you're just talking about press
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conferences and contracts
and illness and medical certs.
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He rang me in January.
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It was a Friday night in January,
and he said, how's the book going?
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And I said, well, I don't, I just
don't think there is a book at the
moment.
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And he said, right, well, how's
about this for a book, I'm fighting
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Chris Eubank.
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The whole idea behind the tour is
to take Eubank all over the country,
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United Kingdom, Europe, wherever.
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And it made sense because of
obviously Steve, to do the fight in
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Ireland, but where?
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This is where it's all happening,
behind us here the magnificent Green
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Glens complex, Millstreet, County
Cork, the venue for the Eurovision
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Song Contest 1993.
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Welcome friends to
Memories of Millstreet.
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You know, it was a time when things
were very down in Ireland, and the
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European community was a big thing,
and everybody was talking about the
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money that was coming.
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And I, from reading the papers, came
to the conclusion that all the money
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that was coming into
Ireland was going to Dublin.
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And I said, hey guys, why can't we
get some of that out into the rural
Ireland?
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One night, we were sitting around
the fire, watching television from
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Sweden, and I took a little, small
brown envelope off the mantelpiece,
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and I wrote, now that the Irish have
won the Eurovision, I presume it
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will be in Ireland next
year, and I have this place.
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And I said, if you consider it,
you will have it free of charge.
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I didn't hear from them for
ages, but eventually they did come.
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And when they looked at it, they,
according to their own language that
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was said, they were gobsmacked.
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And then they started planning to
how it could happen, take it out of
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Dublin and bring it out in the
country, 20 miles from the nearest
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traffic light on that side,
and 20 miles from the other side.
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# There lives a great man
here among us,
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# Green Glens
is a sight you must see
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# He has done many
great things for Millstreet
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# You all know the famous Noel C.
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# Oh Millstreet will always remember
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# Those bright, happy days
spent with you,
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# Admiring your beauty and splendour
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# And the few people so true.
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There's a lot of television
programmes, and there was two
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journalists brought on that Marian
Finucane Show, they called it the
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arsehole of Ireland
and all that kind of thing.
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And where the hell is Millstreet?
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Who is Millstreet
and how did this happen?
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Is it Millstreet in Cork city,
or is it Millstreet somewhere?
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# It was our great moment of pride
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# Oh Millstreet
we'll always remember...
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This is an opportunity now to
create something new, not just for
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Millstreet alone or the Millstreet
parish, but for all rural Ireland.
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The Collins, Eubank thing came
up then, and as soon as I saw that
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Barry Hearn was the promoter, I
found out his number and did it just
direct.
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Barry Hearn was back and forth to me
when the Eubank fight was announced.
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And he came back and
he was talking about venues.
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They never heard of Millstreet.
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And I said, well, Millstreet is where
the Eurovision song contest was held.
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It's a great venue.
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They said to me, we had to switch
off the fax machine, because Noel
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Duggan just sent us fax after fax and
information about the venue, what he
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could do, what he could provide, the
whole support system he had there,
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everything about it.
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Well, I remember Noel telling me
it's just around the corner from
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Cork airport, it was an hour
and a half drive from Cork airport!
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It wasn't around the corner.
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But it didn't really matter,
because he was a thoroughly engaging
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personality at the
time, went like that.
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I think they sat back and thought
they had some old guy here who didn't
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know what was going on and they
were the big "I ams", but, you know,
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I think to this day, they're
still reeling from Noel C. Duggan.
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I think he educated them like a way
they'd never been educated before.
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And I just loved it.
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I loved -- I knew what they were
getting into when they went over to
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him, I thought, do you know what,
they don't know who they're dealing
with here.
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This man's amazing.
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I remember him saying to me when
I showed him around, but Noel, he
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said, where are the chimney pots?
Where are the chimney pots?
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And I didn't know what he meant
by, where are the chimney pots.
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And he meant, where are the crowd?
Where do the crowds come from?
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You know, surely they don't all live
around here, like, then I took him
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home when we were finished here and
he was silent, but I could see that
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he was enthused.
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Will you come indoors and have a
bowl of soup with me and the family?
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And I thought, what
a nice, what a nice fella.
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1, 2, 3, 4, 5 -- I should have
counted these fingers, shouldn't I?
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But he was smart
and he was energetic.
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He was a live wire
and frankly, we needed him.
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Before he left, he shook
hands, he said, we'll do it.
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That's a big headline.
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It says a bowl of soup brings
multi millions to a small town.
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Having done the Eurovision and the
big international shows and some
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concerts, very big concerts, I knew
that we could manage the handles,
you know.
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I'd say the only worry that we had
was that Collins would get killed.
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Press conferences were pretty
mundane affairs, maybe somebody
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would say a few things and spark
off a little bit of a row, and the
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journalists would
give them a bit of copy.
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But there might be only one sort of
quote, and everybody has that same
quote.
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But on this
occasion, it was remarkable.
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Eubank arrived more or less on time,
which was very unusual with him.
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I was on my own, but I had my own
little game plan, and that was to
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undermine him, take
him out of his comfort zone.
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And the first, the first
thing to do was his style.
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He was a good dresser, and he was
known for it, he was, I mean, best
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dressed man in
Britain, I think, twice.
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So this is all part of him, so I want
to match him, but in the Irish style.
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So I got the countryman, Irish
attire, the jacket, the cap, the
whole lot.
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And then I contacted a
very well known Wolfhound breeding
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family, and I asked,
could I borrow their Wolfhound?
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Which they kindly let me borrow.
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They obviously met me around
the corner, gave it to me, because
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this dog was a beautiful dog, and
they weren't just gonna hand me a
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Wolfhound, you know.
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They met me around the corner and
then I'd bought this old mark II Jag
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an old green Jaguar, which was a
perfect car, I says right, this is
it.
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I remember Steve arriving
dressed like Darby O'Gill.
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I mean, it was extraordinary, you
know, to see him in the flat cap,
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the three piece suit,
like thorn proof suit.
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I think he had a shillelagh
and this Irish Wolfhound.
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I don't know where he got the Irish
Wolf -- it wasn't his, like, you
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know, but he had an Irish Wolfhound,
and he got out of this green Jaguar.
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And I couldn't believe it when I saw
him coming, like, I didn't recognise
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him at first, you know.
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And he walks into the hotel, I knew
something was going on, like, you
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know, whatever this
was, it was part of a plan.
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You know, no one
got underneath my skin.
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You know, I was
always kind of objective.
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But he did a very good job.
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You see, he turned up,
remember I'm champion of the world.
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So he turns up 45 minutes late.
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He comes dressed
as an Irish countryman.
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He then proceeds
to speak only in Irish.
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Excellent tactics.
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Tá míle fáilte
roimh go léir anseo inniú.
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ar an lá mór seo in mo shaol.
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Agus deirim libh anois, go mbeidh and
bua agam ar Cristóir Mac Eubanc...
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(Laughter)
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...an mhí Márta,
go raibh míle maith agat.
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Steve was very clever, and he
would think of ways to get under an
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opponent's skin
before, before a fight,
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but I had no idea what
hell was about to be unleashed.
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It started to go off the
rails when he said, I deserve this.
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And Chris said, talk to
me about deserve, what is deserve?
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There are starving children
in Africa, do they deserve that?
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Then he says to me, he said
something to me, which, which, which
caught me.
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He said to me,
everyone, everyone admires you.
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You know, the
quintessential English gentleman.
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That's fantastic,
that's great, he says.
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I'm listening,
where's he going with this?
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We're talking about boxing,
right, if you want to bring Africa
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into it right, you are an African,
Anglo-African, or African descent,
right?
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Why do you deny your African heritage
and try to impersonate or behave like
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in Englishman, when you're not?
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He's asking a question,
hey, well, what about this?
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You're not really an
Englishman, you're an African.
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Chris got really, really angry.
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Usually, he's so mentally tough, or
was in those days that, you know, he
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wouldn't be cowed
by something like that.
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You know, he would shake it off, or
he would be the aggressor in those,
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you know, kind of
intellectual back and forths, but
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he was really, really shaken.
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And I remember the Lord Mayor went
up to him afterwards and said, Would
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you like a tour around the city?
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And Chris said, Fuck this city!
At the top of his voice.
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He really, really had lost it.
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No, you crossed the
line that works, this is war.
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I wanted to fight Chris Eubank
because I didn't really like him,
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I found him kind of disrespectful.
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I just felt I wanted to teach
him something, you know, teach him
manners.
445
00:29:35,780 --> 00:29:37,220
I'm there to take your title.
446
00:29:37,300 --> 00:29:38,860
I'm there to end your career.
447
00:29:38,940 --> 00:29:41,260
I mean, you're loving this, you're
loving this whole, this whole show,
448
00:29:41,340 --> 00:29:43,460
your lifestyle, you love this.
449
00:29:43,540 --> 00:29:46,020
I'm taking it -- I'm here, I'm
going to take this away from you.
450
00:29:46,100 --> 00:29:48,940
I'm taking this from you, and I'm
going to live this lifestyle now,
451
00:29:49,020 --> 00:29:50,500
and it's over for you.
452
00:29:50,580 --> 00:29:54,980
I wasn't the big name, I wasn't
the golden goose, and it didn't make
453
00:29:55,060 --> 00:29:57,460
sense or business
for me to win this fight.
454
00:29:57,540 --> 00:30:01,260
So I believed then that my opponent
for this match wasn't just Chris
455
00:30:01,340 --> 00:30:04,060
Eubank, it was
the whole organisation.
456
00:30:08,060 --> 00:30:09,980
My trainer was Freddie King.
457
00:30:10,060 --> 00:30:12,380
Who was part of
the Matchroom Company.
458
00:30:12,460 --> 00:30:16,740
He had a stable of fighters, and one
of his fighters was Herbie Hyde, and
459
00:30:16,820 --> 00:30:20,500
he had a big
title fight in Las Vegas.
460
00:30:20,580 --> 00:30:25,060
So I'm on my own, I've no coach,
and I'm fighting Chris Eubank.
461
00:30:25,140 --> 00:30:29,380
And I just thought, you know,
it's, it's obvious, I'm not that
462
00:30:29,460 --> 00:30:32,700
concerned, I now
have to look after myself.
463
00:30:33,460 --> 00:30:39,140
So I booked my own flights out
to Vegas to be with my trainer and
coach.
464
00:30:39,220 --> 00:30:43,060
But when I got out there, he
wasn't there, so I was like a gypsy.
465
00:30:43,140 --> 00:30:45,060
I had to find a gym.
466
00:30:45,140 --> 00:30:48,100
I had to find a guy to
coach me, who wasn't my coach.
467
00:30:48,180 --> 00:30:50,340
This is preparation for
the Chris Eubank title fight?!
468
00:30:50,420 --> 00:30:52,740
So I knew, I knew
what the script was.
469
00:30:58,660 --> 00:31:02,180
I do recall being out there having
this room booked in the MGM hotel.
470
00:31:02,260 --> 00:31:05,660
I booked myself a room in the MGM
hotel, and I'm trying to make weight
471
00:31:05,740 --> 00:31:08,260
for this fight, even though it was
super middleweight, not middleweight,
472
00:31:08,340 --> 00:31:10,580
I still had to cut
weight to make weight.
473
00:31:10,660 --> 00:31:14,140
And I remember coming from my room
every day with my training gear to go
474
00:31:14,220 --> 00:31:17,660
to the gym and I used to walk through
the food hall to get out, I had to
475
00:31:17,740 --> 00:31:21,340
walk through smelling this food every
day and I was starving, and I was on
476
00:31:21,420 --> 00:31:25,740
my way to the gym to slog hard,
work hard, and the heat was, it was
477
00:31:25,820 --> 00:31:29,940
unbelievable, it was Vegas, and I
hadn't got -- I had no money, and I
478
00:31:30,020 --> 00:31:34,060
borrowed a bicycle off
one of the coaches out there.
479
00:31:34,140 --> 00:31:38,780
He loaned me his daughter's
little yellow racing bike.
480
00:31:38,860 --> 00:31:42,740
So I pick up a little bike from
around the side, I used to hide it
481
00:31:42,820 --> 00:31:44,980
around the back of
the hotel, the MGM hotel.
482
00:31:45,060 --> 00:31:47,620
My little training bag on my
shoulder, and I get on this little
483
00:31:47,700 --> 00:31:50,780
bike and I was cycling through
the traffic on the big motorways
484
00:31:50,860 --> 00:31:55,700
through Vegas to get to the Top Rank
gym, and I had my workout, and then
485
00:31:55,780 --> 00:31:59,700
I'd get on my little bike
and I'd cycle back, you know.
486
00:32:00,620 --> 00:32:02,380
It just wasn't, it wasn't
the way things should happen,
487
00:32:02,460 --> 00:32:04,220
it's not how someone
should prepare for a world title.
488
00:32:04,300 --> 00:32:07,940
But it just told me what was really
going on, and it made me even more
489
00:32:08,020 --> 00:32:11,980
determined to succeed, and it made me
really want this more to prove that
490
00:32:12,060 --> 00:32:15,500
I'm not just going to beat this
fighter, I'm going to beat the whole
system.
491
00:32:17,860 --> 00:32:23,500
I was working as always, exclusively
in my own mind, and that's how you
win.
492
00:32:23,580 --> 00:32:25,820
You don't think about your opponent,
you think about what you are going
493
00:32:25,900 --> 00:32:27,820
to do and who you are.
494
00:32:29,820 --> 00:32:34,540
There is a psychological battle
going on and winning that can be the
fight.
495
00:32:34,620 --> 00:32:40,300
I look at what people thought of me
at the time, and I remember always
496
00:32:40,380 --> 00:32:42,660
trying to explain I'm just a man.
497
00:32:44,700 --> 00:32:49,020
I always thought
myself to be a grasshopper.
498
00:32:50,780 --> 00:32:52,980
That's the way in
which I stay champion.
499
00:32:53,060 --> 00:32:57,660
I always doubted myself, so I
never took my foot off the pedal.
500
00:32:58,300 --> 00:33:01,020
I trained meticulously.
501
00:33:01,100 --> 00:33:03,300
I had the right mindset.
502
00:33:04,140 --> 00:33:08,060
I trained and managed him to start
with, we used to train in a gym on
503
00:33:08,140 --> 00:33:12,980
about eight boxers, ten
boxers, when was it, '87, 1987.
504
00:33:13,060 --> 00:33:15,900
And I come in the gym, and he was
training there with his brothers,
505
00:33:15,980 --> 00:33:18,940
and I went, kid's
good, beautifully balanced.
506
00:33:19,020 --> 00:33:20,860
And that's where I met him.
507
00:33:20,940 --> 00:33:24,140
He moved really smoothly,
fast hands, he could hit.
508
00:33:24,220 --> 00:33:26,380
Yeah, he had everything about him.
509
00:33:26,460 --> 00:33:28,660
But you could say,
that kid's gonna be good.
510
00:33:29,140 --> 00:33:31,700
He was winning, beating everyone
up, and I couldn't get him fights
511
00:33:31,780 --> 00:33:34,820
because he was that
good, and all avoiding him.
512
00:33:34,900 --> 00:33:38,340
So I had a meeting with Barry
Hearn, and we went on from there.
513
00:33:40,020 --> 00:33:42,300
And we met at the Grosvenor
House Hotel in Sheffield.
514
00:33:42,380 --> 00:33:46,420
I sat there waiting, suited and
booted as you'd expect, and in
515
00:33:46,500 --> 00:33:52,140
wandered this charismatic
personality with a certain style.
516
00:33:52,220 --> 00:33:55,820
And he went, my name is
Christopher Livingston Eubank.
517
00:33:55,900 --> 00:33:58,020
I'm an athlete, and I know my worth.
518
00:33:58,100 --> 00:34:00,140
That was the first
sentence he ever said.
519
00:34:00,220 --> 00:34:02,860
I thought, oh, you
got me, mate, you got me.
520
00:34:04,020 --> 00:34:10,460
My father worked at Ford Dagenhams,
90 pounds a week, bringing up four
children.
521
00:34:11,460 --> 00:34:13,380
The system crushes people.
522
00:34:13,460 --> 00:34:17,900
It crushed my people, you
know, slave trade, the Windrush
523
00:34:17,980 --> 00:34:22,700
generation, my parents coming into
the United Kingdom in the 1950s,
524
00:34:22,780 --> 00:34:25,380
me being second generation.
525
00:34:26,380 --> 00:34:32,940
And somehow, through the grace
that my mother put in me, somehow
526
00:34:33,020 --> 00:34:39,620
I didn't let all that prejudice,
jealousy, you know, hate, racism,
527
00:34:39,700 --> 00:34:42,380
I didn't let anything sit on me.
528
00:34:46,100 --> 00:34:49,500
I want to be better prepared than him
and take away this mindset he has,
529
00:34:49,580 --> 00:34:52,500
which is very powerful, strong
mindset, and he is in control.
530
00:34:52,580 --> 00:34:57,180
I've upset him, but I need to
take control of the whole scenario.
531
00:34:57,260 --> 00:34:59,180
I needed to come
back with the mind games.
532
00:34:59,260 --> 00:35:02,060
I needed help to understand his
mind games and strengthen and prepare
533
00:35:02,140 --> 00:35:03,420
my mind game.
534
00:35:03,500 --> 00:35:06,820
Dr. Tony Quinn has a doctorate
in clinical hypnotherapy and
535
00:35:06,900 --> 00:35:10,620
counselling, Master of Science
degree in psychotherapy and neuro
536
00:35:10,700 --> 00:35:15,100
linguistic programming, how the
mind is programmed for success or
failure.
537
00:35:16,740 --> 00:35:20,980
Tony Quinn had a health shop
business in Dublin, and he used to
538
00:35:21,060 --> 00:35:25,060
sell these hypnotism tapes, and he
would help people stop smoking or
539
00:35:25,140 --> 00:35:27,300
help people to
transform their lives.
540
00:35:27,380 --> 00:35:30,420
And then he had this business
where he would do seminars.
541
00:35:30,500 --> 00:35:32,900
He would talk to them
about changing their lives.
542
00:35:32,980 --> 00:35:35,540
He looked like Jesus
Christ, you know, he had a goatee.
543
00:35:35,620 --> 00:35:41,100
He had this huge perm and a little
bit of an aura about him as well.
544
00:35:41,180 --> 00:35:43,540
You know, you never saw
him, he was kind of reclusive.
545
00:35:43,620 --> 00:35:46,300
You saw his shops everywhere,
but you didn't see him often.
546
00:35:46,780 --> 00:35:48,460
It's okay I'm here.
547
00:35:56,940 --> 00:36:01,460
He got in touch with me through my
manager, and we arranged, at the
548
00:36:01,540 --> 00:36:05,020
time to meet in the MGM in Vegas.
549
00:36:05,100 --> 00:36:09,140
And I knew nothing about boxing, by
the way, I never saw a real boxing
550
00:36:09,220 --> 00:36:13,220
match in my life, till
I was involved with Steve.
551
00:36:13,300 --> 00:36:16,260
So I said to him,
What can I do for you, Steve?
552
00:36:16,340 --> 00:36:18,580
And he said, anything you can.
553
00:36:21,900 --> 00:36:25,220
I'm sitting there listening to the
guy, and I'm thinking, how long is
554
00:36:25,300 --> 00:36:26,940
this fight away?
555
00:36:27,700 --> 00:36:29,740
And I think it was about five weeks.
556
00:36:29,820 --> 00:36:31,500
And I'm thinking, Oh my God.
557
00:36:31,580 --> 00:36:34,340
Then I said, who's your trainer?
558
00:36:34,420 --> 00:36:37,180
And he said, I don't
have a trainer at all.
559
00:36:37,820 --> 00:36:43,100
And I said, stupidly, I
thought all boxers had trainers.
560
00:36:43,180 --> 00:36:48,060
So Steve said to me, well, Tony,
I guess you're going to be the
trainer.
561
00:36:48,140 --> 00:36:50,300
And I go, whoa.
562
00:36:50,380 --> 00:36:52,980
I never even saw
a boxing match, Steve.
563
00:36:53,820 --> 00:36:57,820
I was at a loss as to how I was
going to train him straight away.
564
00:36:57,900 --> 00:37:01,300
And then I said something really
stupid that he thought was really
stupid.
565
00:37:01,380 --> 00:37:04,940
I said, is there any
boxing gyms in Las Vegas?
566
00:37:05,020 --> 00:37:09,980
So Steve says to me, it's the
home of boxing, of course there are!
567
00:37:10,060 --> 00:37:14,540
So I said, tomorrow, let's go
down now and we'll pick out three
568
00:37:14,620 --> 00:37:17,620
opponents, and we'll
see how you do against them.
569
00:37:17,700 --> 00:37:23,300
And frankly, he did so badly, I
said, you know, Steve, I think I'd
570
00:37:23,380 --> 00:37:25,500
do better than that myself.
571
00:37:25,580 --> 00:37:29,740
And he was so annoyed, he was
practically telling me to go home at
572
00:37:29,820 --> 00:37:34,500
that point, where I'm saying, Jesus,
Steve, we don't have time for this.
573
00:37:34,580 --> 00:37:36,020
We've only got five weeks.
574
00:37:36,100 --> 00:37:37,780
We need to get on with it.
575
00:37:37,860 --> 00:37:41,980
Okay, this is combination number
two, and that's a driving straight
576
00:37:42,060 --> 00:37:45,420
left to the head, stepping in.
577
00:37:45,500 --> 00:37:48,860
Then we have a straight right to
solar plexus, left hook to head,
578
00:37:48,940 --> 00:37:50,980
right hook to head.
579
00:37:57,860 --> 00:38:00,540
Tell me when you're okay Mary
and then start rolling a little.
580
00:38:00,620 --> 00:38:02,420
Yeah, it's rolling now.
581
00:38:04,540 --> 00:38:06,180
Action.
582
00:38:07,380 --> 00:38:12,380
Tony Quinn was a master of
martial arts, and I love Bruce Lee.
583
00:38:13,060 --> 00:38:14,420
You know, I love Bruce Lee.
584
00:38:14,500 --> 00:38:17,060
And he's talking Bruce
Lee and the one inch punch.
585
00:38:17,140 --> 00:38:19,300
And he said, I'll
teach you the one inch punch.
586
00:38:19,380 --> 00:38:21,660
So we used to practice the
one inch punch over and over again.
587
00:38:21,740 --> 00:38:26,380
I used to practice it all the time
for Eubank, and I planned this whole,
588
00:38:26,460 --> 00:38:29,300
this was a combination that Freddie
King told me, which was a jab to the
589
00:38:29,380 --> 00:38:32,060
head, bring his hands up, bend
the knees and drive the straight hand
590
00:38:32,140 --> 00:38:33,780
through the chest.
591
00:38:33,860 --> 00:38:35,860
So I wanted to make that straight
hand not just a straight hand,
592
00:38:35,940 --> 00:38:38,580
I wanted to make it a one inch
punch, so we practiced over and over.
593
00:38:39,900 --> 00:38:44,460
When you have all of your mind
going, your mind will generate this
594
00:38:44,540 --> 00:38:47,660
palpable power, like a force.
595
00:38:47,740 --> 00:38:50,060
It's a bit like what
you'd see in Star Wars.
596
00:38:50,140 --> 00:38:54,660
So now you're hitting a person
with this extra force, and then you
597
00:38:54,740 --> 00:38:56,660
become kind of superhuman.
598
00:38:56,740 --> 00:38:59,300
And that's where
I was going with Steve.
599
00:38:59,380 --> 00:39:04,580
I frankly wanted him to be the only
boxer ever in history to be able to
600
00:39:04,660 --> 00:39:07,660
punch with this chi.
601
00:39:07,740 --> 00:39:12,340
I mean, that's just a useful word
for it, but think of it as life
force.
602
00:39:14,260 --> 00:39:16,060
Now, will I start?
603
00:39:17,060 --> 00:39:19,220
Combination number 12.
604
00:39:19,860 --> 00:39:24,060
This is to be delivered when the
opponent is up against the ropes
605
00:39:24,140 --> 00:39:27,620
with two hands up,
protecting his head.
606
00:39:29,740 --> 00:39:33,820
Step in with forearm
block to opponents gloves,
607
00:39:33,900 --> 00:39:37,180
followed by a driving right to the
body with the knuckles facing the
608
00:39:37,260 --> 00:39:42,540
ground, immediately
followed by right uppercut to chin.
609
00:39:44,100 --> 00:39:49,140
So we did no aerobics whatsoever, no
running, no road work, no skipping,
610
00:39:49,220 --> 00:39:51,780
nothing resembling aerobics.
611
00:39:51,860 --> 00:39:58,180
And the reason being this, you see,
for example, Chris Eubank ran for an
612
00:39:58,260 --> 00:39:59,900
hour a day.
613
00:39:59,980 --> 00:40:04,460
So I'm thinking, is he
training to be a runner or a boxer?
614
00:40:04,540 --> 00:40:08,540
In boxing, you need to be able to
fight for three minutes all out.
615
00:40:09,660 --> 00:40:12,580
And then, as far as I
remember, you rested for a minute.
616
00:40:12,660 --> 00:40:17,140
So why on Earth are you
trying to run for an hour?
617
00:40:17,780 --> 00:40:19,700
That doesn't make sense to me.
618
00:40:19,780 --> 00:40:25,340
So all I did was train Steve to make
maximum effort for three minutes at
a time.
619
00:40:25,420 --> 00:40:26,900
That's all I did.
620
00:40:26,980 --> 00:40:28,540
It was easy.
621
00:40:38,980 --> 00:40:40,860
Second one felt better.
622
00:40:40,940 --> 00:40:43,860
Steve's demeanour, you could just
see there was something different
about him.
623
00:40:43,940 --> 00:40:46,260
It was, it was, his
focus was totally different.
624
00:40:46,340 --> 00:40:48,620
I could see it because I'd spent so
many times with Steve before each
625
00:40:48,700 --> 00:40:54,380
fight, and there was something,
you just knew, you just knew he was
ready.
626
00:40:55,140 --> 00:40:56,780
Do it again.
627
00:41:00,900 --> 00:41:04,060
That one is good too, if you do
it like that, put your two hands
628
00:41:04,140 --> 00:41:08,820
together, push together hard
and pulling down on your abs.
629
00:41:10,780 --> 00:41:12,980
When he came back he
was just a different person.
630
00:41:13,060 --> 00:41:15,180
He had this kind
of brashness about him.
631
00:41:15,260 --> 00:41:17,780
He was always confident,
but this was something different.
632
00:41:17,860 --> 00:41:21,140
He'd completely rebranded himself,
you know, the previous year, as the
633
00:41:21,220 --> 00:41:23,060
Celtic Warrior.
634
00:41:23,140 --> 00:41:25,620
And I think, I think
that was all a marketing thing.
635
00:41:25,700 --> 00:41:29,620
But when he went away, he kind of
grew into that, that persona, and
636
00:41:29,700 --> 00:41:32,660
then the stories, you know, I
remember Steve told me on the phone
637
00:41:32,740 --> 00:41:38,500
one night that, you know,
Tony Quinn had trained him,
638
00:41:38,580 --> 00:41:44,980
had mentally conditioned him, that
when he heard Chris Eubank's voice,
639
00:41:45,060 --> 00:41:46,940
he would hear Donald Duck.
640
00:41:47,740 --> 00:41:53,020
And I mean, I thought this stuff was
just nonsense, like I thought it
641
00:41:53,100 --> 00:41:54,540
was madness.
642
00:41:54,620 --> 00:41:59,100
I mean, Steve was a great boxer,
he didn't need any of this stuff.
643
00:42:00,020 --> 00:42:05,220
But then, I suppose, the sort of
sinister twist to this was that he
644
00:42:05,300 --> 00:42:09,460
started saying that Tony Quinn
had trained him not to feel pain.
645
00:42:13,460 --> 00:42:21,060
MARCHING BAND MUSIC
646
00:42:21,140 --> 00:42:23,620
Well, we did go
to some strange places.
647
00:42:24,620 --> 00:42:29,220
Bruno fought at Shepton
Mallet in an agricultural tent.
648
00:42:29,300 --> 00:42:33,140
We had fights at the
Scottish Showgrounds in Edinburgh.
649
00:42:33,220 --> 00:42:40,940
It wasn't entirely off the radar,
but rural Ireland for most people,
was new.
650
00:42:45,580 --> 00:42:49,220
There's just a magic and something
about Millstreet, you arrive there
651
00:42:49,300 --> 00:42:54,340
and you smell the air, you smell the
countryside, the grass, everything
652
00:42:54,420 --> 00:42:57,100
about it, there was a
smell, an atmosphere down there.
653
00:42:57,180 --> 00:43:02,460
When I arrived there, I just
said, like, I'm the Celtic Warrior
654
00:43:02,540 --> 00:43:04,580
and I'm coming home.
655
00:43:09,060 --> 00:43:14,460
I have an opportunity here to be a
superhero, to go to my opponent's
656
00:43:14,540 --> 00:43:20,500
backyard, when I'm champion,
on St Patrick's Day weekend.
657
00:43:20,580 --> 00:43:22,340
Oh, look at me!
658
00:43:22,420 --> 00:43:27,140
SIRENS
659
00:43:27,220 --> 00:43:29,500
Oh huge excitement in Millstreet.
660
00:43:29,580 --> 00:43:32,180
There was huge excitement in Ireland
generally, because this was Steve
661
00:43:32,260 --> 00:43:37,940
Collins, and since Barry McGuigan
there'd really been no major world
662
00:43:38,020 --> 00:43:40,740
level professional
boxer from Ireland.
663
00:43:40,820 --> 00:43:43,860
It was a technical nightmare, I have
to say, as well, because there were
664
00:43:43,940 --> 00:43:49,300
no permanent facilities to broadcast
a boxing event in an environment
like that.
665
00:43:49,380 --> 00:43:51,100
It was actually very challenging.
666
00:43:52,020 --> 00:43:56,740
Ladies and gentlemen, can I ask you
please to welcome into the ring for
667
00:43:56,820 --> 00:44:01,060
the official weigh-in, the reigning
WBO middleweight champion of the
668
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world and challenger for this
title from Dublin, Steve Collins.
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APPLAUSE AND CHEERING
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There's never a weigh-in
without a story, and the things that
671
00:44:13,020 --> 00:44:17,780
happen at weigh-ins are generally
just to try to build the gate, to
672
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sell those last few tickets, to
ensure a big walk up audience on the
night.
673
00:44:22,620 --> 00:44:24,700
So there's always
boxers threatening to pull out.
674
00:44:24,780 --> 00:44:26,380
Barney Eastwood was famous for it.
675
00:44:26,460 --> 00:44:29,020
You know, all of McGuigan's
fights, you know, there was always
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a row over the gloves,
over the nationality of the judges.
677
00:44:32,940 --> 00:44:34,500
You get used to these things.
678
00:44:34,580 --> 00:44:36,620
This was something
completely different.
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Ladies and gentlemen, we call first
to the scales, the challenger, Steve
Collins.
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CHEERING
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Ladies and gentlemen, Steve Collins
came in at 11 stone, 13 and three
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quarters of a pound.
683
00:45:06,900 --> 00:45:10,740
I just hopped up my tracksuit, they
called the weight out, 168 pound.
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00:45:10,820 --> 00:45:13,780
And Chris Eubank comes out,
he strips off to his underwear, and
685
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he's showing his muscles, and his
physique and so on, and I thought,
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he's never going to change, you know.
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00:45:18,780 --> 00:45:24,020
Ladies and gentlemen, Chris Eubank
has scaled 11 stone, 13 and three
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00:45:24,100 --> 00:45:27,500
quarters of a pound,
the same as Steve Collins.
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00:45:27,580 --> 00:45:29,740
In the ring I'm fierce.
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00:45:29,820 --> 00:45:32,820
I have the correct
attitude for the job.
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00:45:33,660 --> 00:45:35,100
I look correct.
692
00:45:35,180 --> 00:45:37,020
I'm not supposed
to look like a waiter.
693
00:45:37,100 --> 00:45:40,780
I'm not supposed to look like
a, you know, a property developer.
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I'm supposed to look like a warrior.
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00:45:47,260 --> 00:45:49,620
We had a brief
press conference there,
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and, you know, talking to Chris and
talking to me, and I said, and by the
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00:45:53,780 --> 00:45:56,940
way, I said, I've prepared for
this fight in a way that I've never
698
00:45:57,020 --> 00:45:58,540
prepared for a fight before.
699
00:45:58,620 --> 00:46:02,420
I've got my mindset and I'm ready
now for anything he throws at me,
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physically, mentally, I've never
been so well prepared in my life.
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As a matter of fact, I introduced
the guy who helped me prepare.
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00:46:08,260 --> 00:46:11,980
The issue has been raised that
sometimes the mind tells the body
703
00:46:12,060 --> 00:46:16,500
when to stop, and people are worried
that he may go on through the pain
704
00:46:16,580 --> 00:46:20,580
threshold, and it could cause Steve
some damage, and people are worried
about that.
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00:46:20,660 --> 00:46:25,140
Well, I think in something like
boxing, the mind plays a big part in
it.
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00:46:25,220 --> 00:46:28,460
I mean, a lot of people in
situations where they're very
707
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excited may actually feel no pain
anyway, many boxers, I don't think,
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00:46:32,260 --> 00:46:34,180
feel pain till afterwards.
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00:46:34,260 --> 00:46:37,580
Now it's true, he will feel
less pain than he normally would.
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00:46:37,660 --> 00:46:39,340
I mean, that is definitely true.
711
00:46:39,420 --> 00:46:42,580
He'll also find that
he's able to move much easier.
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00:46:42,660 --> 00:46:46,100
For instance, one of the things we
do is that I've slowed down, so when
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he sees the punches coming at him,
they look about three times slower
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00:46:50,300 --> 00:46:52,780
than normal, and we've done this
in the training sessions, and it's
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00:46:52,860 --> 00:46:54,300
worked very well.
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00:46:54,380 --> 00:46:57,420
We've also made the target three
times bigger, so it's much easier
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for him to be
aware of what's happening.
718
00:46:59,780 --> 00:47:02,620
But of course, I've told him at the
same time, and this is instilled in
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00:47:02,700 --> 00:47:06,020
him, that he will be
very aware of all dangers.
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00:47:06,100 --> 00:47:10,140
In fact, he'd be much more aware
than normal of any danger there may
be to him.
721
00:47:10,220 --> 00:47:12,820
What a load of rubbish!
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00:47:12,900 --> 00:47:16,820
The only person didn't think it was
a load of rubbish was Chris Eubank.
723
00:47:16,900 --> 00:47:19,100
He thought it was black magic.
724
00:47:19,180 --> 00:47:22,860
I'll never forget, I mean, we
did the weigh-in, we did the press.
725
00:47:22,940 --> 00:47:25,980
Collins came out with
his cock and ball story,
726
00:47:26,060 --> 00:47:28,500
but he looked believable.
727
00:47:29,220 --> 00:47:31,740
The only person in the room
that believed him was Chris Eubank.
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00:47:31,820 --> 00:47:34,540
Went back to the room,
Eubank said to me, I'm going home.
729
00:47:34,620 --> 00:47:38,620
The 43 fights I've had in the past,
I've always known what I was dealing
with.
730
00:47:39,740 --> 00:47:43,100
I don't know what I'm dealing with
tonight, I'm fighting someone who's
731
00:47:43,180 --> 00:47:49,460
mechanically orientated,
and that is just an unknown area.
732
00:47:49,540 --> 00:47:51,940
It's not fair that I should
be put into the situation.
733
00:47:52,020 --> 00:47:56,380
I suppose it was a particularly
sensitive time for Eubank, because
734
00:47:56,460 --> 00:48:01,620
this was just three weeks after the
Nigel Benn, Gerald McClellan fight.
735
00:48:01,700 --> 00:48:05,380
Gerald McClellan had been
left in a coma after the fight.
736
00:48:05,460 --> 00:48:10,380
You know, he was left permanently
blind, with restricted mobility, the
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00:48:10,460 --> 00:48:15,540
kind of brutality of boxing was at
the forefront of everybody's minds,
738
00:48:15,620 --> 00:48:18,740
but more so for Chris Eubank,
because he'd been through a similar
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00:48:18,820 --> 00:48:22,100
experience himself four
years earlier with Michael Watson.
740
00:48:23,540 --> 00:48:25,940
Eubank's got snagged
on the right again and again.
741
00:48:27,980 --> 00:48:29,580
Eubanks is staggering.
742
00:48:30,540 --> 00:48:34,460
Watching for the first 10
rounds, Eubank getting a severe
743
00:48:34,540 --> 00:48:38,340
hiding from Watson, Watson was
clearly in front and drops Eubank in
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00:48:38,420 --> 00:48:42,660
the 11th round, and like it looked
like the fight was coming to an end
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00:48:42,740 --> 00:48:46,220
in Watson's favour, and all of a
sudden, he pulls out that uppercut!
746
00:48:46,300 --> 00:48:49,060
10 seconds left to go...
And Watson's down!
747
00:48:49,500 --> 00:48:51,340
Watson's down.
748
00:48:51,420 --> 00:48:53,180
The bell's gonna save him.
749
00:48:53,260 --> 00:48:57,820
He went back to the corner, my great
friend, Jimmy Tibbs, worked on him,
750
00:48:57,900 --> 00:49:00,340
and he talked to me, he said,
Look, I said to him, are you okay?
751
00:49:00,420 --> 00:49:02,060
Are you compos mentis?
752
00:49:02,140 --> 00:49:03,700
And I could see that
he was compos mentis.
753
00:49:03,780 --> 00:49:05,620
He was answering the questions.
754
00:49:05,700 --> 00:49:09,180
And then he went back out,
but his legs hadn't recovered.
755
00:49:09,260 --> 00:49:10,820
And Eubank just jumped on him.
756
00:49:11,220 --> 00:49:12,940
It's all over.
757
00:49:13,020 --> 00:49:14,980
He has stopped it.
758
00:49:15,340 --> 00:49:16,980
People hit me for a living.
759
00:49:17,060 --> 00:49:18,940
I hit people for a living.
760
00:49:19,020 --> 00:49:21,940
There's nothing personal
when I strike you, it's a point.
761
00:49:23,380 --> 00:49:27,100
You know that should give me credit,
shouldn't discredit me that I hit
762
00:49:27,180 --> 00:49:29,460
people for a living.
763
00:49:30,060 --> 00:49:33,540
Because I'm looking at it
objectively, I score a point.
764
00:49:33,620 --> 00:49:35,140
There is no malice.
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00:49:35,780 --> 00:49:39,140
So here comes the WBO super
middleweight champion, Chris Eubank,
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fresh from his win.
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It is the main man.
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00:49:48,380 --> 00:49:52,060
I don't regret anything in my
career, other than what happened to
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Michael Watson.
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00:49:53,620 --> 00:49:56,940
Ladies and gentlemen,
please, we must clear the ring.
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00:49:57,020 --> 00:49:59,060
Michael Watson
has got to leave the ring.
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00:49:59,140 --> 00:50:02,020
Will you please now clear the ring
and let's have a bit of order and
773
00:50:02,100 --> 00:50:03,940
a bit of sanity, please.
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00:50:04,180 --> 00:50:09,020
That was a very sad night, and I
remember walking out the gates of
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the club thinking, yeah, this
night will never be forgotten, and
776
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not for good, but for bad.
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00:50:17,180 --> 00:50:20,100
Michael Watson had been in a coma
for a month after and was left with
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00:50:20,180 --> 00:50:25,300
these life changing injuries from
brain damage sustained at the hands
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of Chris Eubank.
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00:50:26,940 --> 00:50:33,300
So you could totally understand
why this suddenly worried him.
781
00:50:33,380 --> 00:50:35,700
I think he felt genuine fear then.
782
00:50:36,180 --> 00:50:40,180
I understand getting into a ring
with a man who was trained to be
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the best he can be.
784
00:50:42,100 --> 00:50:45,860
Under hypnosis, basically,
he will be more, mentally.
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00:50:45,940 --> 00:50:49,620
I mean, and if you talk to anyone
in the business, you'll get to
786
00:50:49,700 --> 00:50:53,300
understand that it's 85%
mental because it's only endurance.
787
00:51:04,420 --> 00:51:06,140
Yeah, he didn't like that.
788
00:51:06,980 --> 00:51:08,500
He didn't want to
go ahead with the fight.
789
00:51:08,580 --> 00:51:11,500
I said, listen, once you whack
him or he hits you, mate, all that
790
00:51:11,580 --> 00:51:13,980
hypnotism goes out the
window, mate, that's all gone.
791
00:51:15,420 --> 00:51:18,020
I said, Chris, you know, ask
yourself a rational question, can
792
00:51:18,100 --> 00:51:20,140
you hypnotize a chin?
793
00:51:20,220 --> 00:51:21,580
The answer is no.
794
00:51:21,660 --> 00:51:24,420
But anyway, Ronnie Davis, Chris
Eubank's trainer and me, sat up till
795
00:51:24,500 --> 00:51:28,300
one o'clock in the morning
convincing him to take the fight.
796
00:51:28,380 --> 00:51:31,060
There's nothing I can do
about it, I'm in that corner.
797
00:51:31,140 --> 00:51:34,900
If I walk away from the fight now,
they say, Well, you're a coward.
798
00:51:34,980 --> 00:51:38,540
Well, they say that, you
know, you have no more credibility.
799
00:51:39,380 --> 00:51:40,540
I shouldn't do this.
800
00:51:40,620 --> 00:51:42,500
I shouldn't be in that
ring tonight, this is wrong.
801
00:51:42,580 --> 00:51:44,180
This is unfair.
802
00:51:44,260 --> 00:51:46,820
That's legal
cheating, that's not right.
803
00:51:47,780 --> 00:51:52,140
It was scary, and when you'd see in
the paper about the air ambulances,
804
00:51:52,220 --> 00:51:55,180
and how long it took the air
ambulances to go from here to the
805
00:51:55,260 --> 00:51:59,580
wherever, if there was a bad
accident in the ring, you had all
806
00:51:59,660 --> 00:52:01,580
those kind of worries all right.
807
00:52:01,660 --> 00:52:04,140
It was different to the Eurovision.
808
00:52:04,220 --> 00:52:06,780
The Eurovision was a gentle thing.
809
00:52:07,620 --> 00:52:09,220
The other thing was war.
810
00:52:09,700 --> 00:52:12,100
And a very good evening to you
from the Green Glens Arena here in
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00:52:12,180 --> 00:52:14,500
Millstreet in the deep
rural south west of Ireland.
812
00:52:14,580 --> 00:52:16,900
There is a
fantastic atmosphere here.
813
00:52:16,980 --> 00:52:21,060
It's already a famous venue in Irish
terms, a Eurovision Song Contest
814
00:52:21,140 --> 00:52:24,540
victory here a couple of years ago,
but the roof will truly lift off if
815
00:52:24,620 --> 00:52:27,420
sporting history is made here for
Ireland and if Steve Collins can
816
00:52:27,500 --> 00:52:30,420
become the WBO world
super middleweight champion.
817
00:52:30,500 --> 00:52:33,420
It's all in front of us, and here
to share the atmosphere, one of the
818
00:52:33,500 --> 00:52:35,860
finest fighters ever produced
in these shores, Barry McGuigan,
819
00:52:35,940 --> 00:52:37,940
we'll hear from Barry
in just a moment or two.
820
00:52:39,300 --> 00:52:40,940
It was the hottest ticket in town.
821
00:52:41,020 --> 00:52:42,540
They were sold out in seconds.
822
00:52:42,620 --> 00:52:45,980
And lucky enough, I had a couple of
thousand tickets in a little old
823
00:52:46,060 --> 00:52:48,900
rucksack there that
were pretty valuable.
824
00:52:48,980 --> 00:52:52,500
So at the time, my brother,
Patrick Peters, we'd the Wilton pub
825
00:52:52,580 --> 00:52:54,980
in Bishopstown in Cork, he
thought it'd be good idea to sell
826
00:52:55,060 --> 00:52:56,700
some tickets from the pubs.
827
00:52:56,780 --> 00:52:58,460
I said, sure, look,
that could be interesting.
828
00:52:58,540 --> 00:53:02,260
So I got him down 250 and he came
in early, I think, one morning, and
829
00:53:02,340 --> 00:53:04,260
there was, I think,
three or 4,000 people.
830
00:53:04,340 --> 00:53:06,340
It was mental, the queue outside,
so I had to get some fella on a
831
00:53:06,420 --> 00:53:09,860
motorbike try to get down with
five or 700 tickets pretty quick.
832
00:53:11,860 --> 00:53:15,220
Steve, I know you very well, and
I've never seen you as intense as I
833
00:53:15,300 --> 00:53:16,860
have over the past few days.
834
00:53:16,940 --> 00:53:18,700
What do you think is gonna happen?
I'm gonna win.
835
00:53:19,340 --> 00:53:20,700
New champ.
836
00:53:29,980 --> 00:53:35,260
Can I ask you to welcome into the
arena the reigning WBO middleweight
837
00:53:35,340 --> 00:53:41,860
champion of the world and challenger
for the title, from Dublin, Steve
Collins.
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00:53:41,940 --> 00:53:44,220
LOUD ROAR
839
00:53:44,300 --> 00:53:47,940
I was outside the dressing room,
and when Freddie King says to me,
840
00:53:48,020 --> 00:53:50,380
Mick, make sure no one sticks their
-- pokes their finger in his eye or
841
00:53:50,460 --> 00:53:53,140
slaps him or tries to upset him.
842
00:53:54,820 --> 00:53:57,940
Straight away, the big brother
kicked in, and that's all, I just
843
00:53:58,020 --> 00:54:01,020
focused on him, and my job was to
make sure that he got up and didn't
844
00:54:01,100 --> 00:54:03,940
trip or anything, and got
him in, sat him on his stool.
845
00:54:07,340 --> 00:54:09,260
I remember all the guards there.
846
00:54:09,340 --> 00:54:10,940
That's one of my
outstanding memories.
847
00:54:11,020 --> 00:54:14,100
The Gardaí did the
official security for the event.
848
00:54:14,180 --> 00:54:16,380
So it's full of guards.
849
00:54:16,460 --> 00:54:18,820
You know, it felt like
something really, really serious was
850
00:54:18,900 --> 00:54:23,180
happening, because you'd never see a
thousand guards under one roof like
that.
851
00:54:23,260 --> 00:54:27,620
There was a huge number of Dublin
criminals at the fight as well.
852
00:54:27,700 --> 00:54:31,860
Most of them I recognised from the
papers, you know, they all went
853
00:54:31,940 --> 00:54:36,540
to the fight, just criminals and
guards rubbing shoulders under the
same roof.
854
00:54:39,340 --> 00:54:41,540
I mean, it was like a Roman arena.
855
00:54:41,620 --> 00:54:43,340
It was unbelievable.
856
00:54:43,420 --> 00:54:46,580
I've never, in all -- I worked with
my brother for seven years doing
857
00:54:46,660 --> 00:54:50,900
corner man, I've been at lots
of shows, and I've never, ever
858
00:54:50,980 --> 00:54:53,220
experienced the intensity.
859
00:54:55,100 --> 00:54:59,020
I had the privilege of leaving him
in, and he didn't even know that I
860
00:54:59,100 --> 00:55:01,860
left him into the
ring, he was so focused.
861
00:55:01,940 --> 00:55:13,940
LOUD CHEERING
862
00:55:18,380 --> 00:55:20,620
It was nearly a tougher fight
to get into the ring with the
863
00:55:20,700 --> 00:55:23,980
people, the way they were in, you
know, and once we got into the ring,
864
00:55:24,060 --> 00:55:26,620
I think one of the
cameras slightly picked up.
865
00:55:26,700 --> 00:55:29,780
I had a very sizable bet
with Barney, you know, I wasn't --
866
00:55:29,860 --> 00:55:32,940
might be earning a lot of money at
the time, but I had my life savings
867
00:55:33,020 --> 00:55:34,500
on him anyway.
868
00:55:36,980 --> 00:55:40,340
Before I sat down, I got them to put
the Walkman on, with the earphones
869
00:55:40,420 --> 00:55:44,340
in, to listen to the
music, to cut out Chris Eubank.
870
00:55:44,420 --> 00:55:46,900
And I put the hood -- I mean, I
even designed my rope, so I could put
871
00:55:46,980 --> 00:55:49,940
the hood up and not look at him, you
know, and I put the hood up, I sat
872
00:55:50,020 --> 00:55:53,060
down, I listened to my
music, and I switched off.
873
00:55:53,140 --> 00:55:55,580
And then, you know, it all began.
874
00:55:55,660 --> 00:56:10,660
MUSIC PLAYS
"MARS, THE BRINGER OF WAR"
875
00:56:15,820 --> 00:56:18,580
In the dressing room, he
used to put his blinkers on.
876
00:56:18,660 --> 00:56:23,260
And he'd be focused, no one could
speak, and he would take that into
the ring.
877
00:56:23,340 --> 00:56:27,620
And he was so strong minded,
nothing, nothing phased him.
878
00:56:27,700 --> 00:56:30,140
If anything happened, you know,
they could have dropped a bomb in
879
00:56:30,220 --> 00:56:32,220
the next room and
it wouldn't have worried him.
880
00:56:32,300 --> 00:56:33,740
He would have just carried on.
881
00:56:33,820 --> 00:56:36,140
He goes, Don't worry
about it Davis, it'll be okay.
882
00:56:36,220 --> 00:56:37,740
Because that's what he's like.
883
00:56:38,540 --> 00:56:41,500
I said, let me do the worrying, I
done the worrying, as long as he won
884
00:56:41,580 --> 00:56:43,020
the fight, I didn't mind.
885
00:56:43,620 --> 00:56:50,860
MUSIC PLAYS
886
00:56:52,580 --> 00:56:56,740
The music began, Tina Turner, Simply
The Best, which is one of the best
887
00:56:56,820 --> 00:56:59,220
entrance songs you could have.
888
00:56:59,300 --> 00:57:01,100
When that started,
the whole place erupted.
889
00:57:01,180 --> 00:57:03,100
Everybody starts
singing, Simply The Best.
890
00:57:03,180 --> 00:57:05,820
And he's coming down,
the lights are all on him.
891
00:57:05,900 --> 00:57:08,620
Everybody's watching him, it's
all about him, it's Chris Eubank,
892
00:57:08,700 --> 00:57:11,260
it's his show,
it's him, he's the champ.
893
00:57:11,340 --> 00:57:13,780
The guy sitting in the
corner, he's just a part.
894
00:57:13,860 --> 00:57:28,860
MUSIC PLAYS "SIMPLY
THE BEST" BY TINA TURNER
895
00:57:28,940 --> 00:57:43,140
SINGING, CHEERING AND SHOUTING
896
00:57:45,700 --> 00:57:49,900
By the time we all got together, it
was like a party, you know, we were
897
00:57:49,980 --> 00:57:54,620
all singing along, great form,
having a few drinks and what have
you.
898
00:57:54,700 --> 00:57:58,900
I'll never forget it, we
were all standing on the seats.
899
00:57:59,780 --> 00:58:04,900
And when they were coming out, and
the gas part was we were all happy.
900
00:58:04,980 --> 00:58:07,980
And when Eubanks was
coming out, we were all singing.
901
00:58:08,060 --> 00:58:10,620
Do you understand?
# simply the best.
902
00:58:10,700 --> 00:58:13,980
And I was saying to meself,
why are we singing this to him?
903
00:58:14,380 --> 00:58:27,020
SIMPLY THE BEST CONTINUES TO PLAY
904
00:58:27,100 --> 00:58:31,900
LOUD CHEERING AND SHOUTING
905
00:58:31,980 --> 00:58:35,660
I'm walking into a cauldron
of people who are against me.
906
00:58:35,740 --> 00:58:38,180
And I'm walking towards the danger.
907
00:58:38,260 --> 00:58:40,340
Look at me.
908
00:58:45,020 --> 00:58:50,740
It's wonderful, it's wonderful,
it's for me, can you not see?
909
00:58:52,060 --> 00:58:55,740
You know, you know, if you're a
fighter, you're not existing, you're
910
00:58:55,820 --> 00:58:57,820
not playing it safe.
911
00:58:59,180 --> 00:59:00,780
How many people can say that?
912
00:59:00,860 --> 00:59:06,180
How many people can say that they
were in real and present danger, and
913
00:59:06,260 --> 00:59:09,900
they were not running, they weren't
looking to actually escape it?
914
00:59:09,980 --> 00:59:13,100
They were moving towards
it, they were combating it.
915
00:59:13,180 --> 00:59:14,860
Oh, what?
916
00:59:14,940 --> 00:59:16,620
Oh mate!
917
00:59:17,500 --> 00:59:19,220
Oh...
918
00:59:22,180 --> 00:59:24,940
That's beautiful,
sorry, that's beautiful.
919
00:59:28,740 --> 00:59:36,460
CROWD CHANT "STEVO, STEVO"
920
00:59:36,540 --> 00:59:39,780
The more people hissed and spat at
him and screamed at him and said the
921
00:59:39,860 --> 00:59:44,660
most abusive things to him, he would
just touch his gloves and walk in and
922
00:59:44,740 --> 00:59:48,060
he'd wink at them, and he'd nod the
head and he'd put the chin up like
this.
923
00:59:48,140 --> 00:59:50,300
It was just great.
924
00:59:50,380 --> 00:59:53,220
I used to sit there
ringside going, look at these guys,
925
00:59:53,300 --> 00:59:55,540
and they're going, we hate you.
926
00:59:55,620 --> 00:59:57,980
And he'd go, too bad.
927
00:59:58,060 --> 01:00:06,540
CROWD CHANT "STEVO, STEVO"
928
01:00:06,620 --> 01:00:10,500
The image he saw when he came to the
ring, was he saw me not even paying
929
01:00:10,580 --> 01:00:11,940
attention to him.
930
01:00:12,020 --> 01:00:17,100
This, all this effort he put in was
a waste and that, to me, was like a
body blow.
931
01:00:17,180 --> 01:00:20,820
I remember the ropes moving and the
spring on the ropes, and he hit the
932
01:00:20,900 --> 01:00:23,060
canvas, I could
hear him hit the canvas.
933
01:00:23,140 --> 01:00:24,700
And I just went,
right, this is it now.
934
01:00:24,780 --> 01:00:27,300
Stick to your plan.
This is working, you know.
935
01:00:27,380 --> 01:00:31,500
And you know, obviously I couldn't
see, I was aware, and I knew he'd be
936
01:00:31,580 --> 01:00:34,580
looking at me, and I just
totally switched off, and I waited.
937
01:00:34,660 --> 01:00:39,180
CROWD CHANT "STEVO, STEVO"
938
01:00:39,260 --> 01:00:43,140
It wasn't until they announced me
that I even acknowledged anybody.
939
01:00:43,220 --> 01:00:47,340
But they announced me, then I'd
get up and I came out of my trance.
940
01:00:47,420 --> 01:00:51,180
I took off my robe, and I walked
straight to the centre of the ring to
941
01:00:51,260 --> 01:00:53,300
front him, you know.
942
01:00:53,380 --> 01:00:56,660
And when I fronted him, it wasn't
till I looked back on video that
943
01:00:56,740 --> 01:00:58,540
something happened that never
happened before, and I must have
944
01:00:58,620 --> 01:01:02,580
obviously scared him and I
scared his corner man, because
945
01:01:02,660 --> 01:01:06,420
his corner man, Ronnie Davis,
who usually stands behind, like most
946
01:01:06,500 --> 01:01:10,300
corner men do, behind the fighters,
stood between the two of us and put
947
01:01:10,380 --> 01:01:11,780
his arm out.
948
01:01:11,860 --> 01:01:15,380
I actually believe and think he was
afraid I was gonna attack him before
949
01:01:15,460 --> 01:01:17,140
the fight even started.
950
01:01:17,220 --> 01:01:18,940
So I had them all rattled.
951
01:01:19,020 --> 01:01:21,780
You can see my lips move, and I
kept telling him, I kept telling him
952
01:01:21,860 --> 01:01:23,260
"new champ, I'm gonna win".
953
01:01:23,340 --> 01:01:25,340
"I'm the new champ, I'm gonna win."
"It's over."
954
01:01:25,420 --> 01:01:26,580
He couldn't even look at me.
955
01:01:26,660 --> 01:01:27,980
He put his head down because he
just couldn't, he put his head down,
956
01:01:28,060 --> 01:01:29,260
he looked at the ground.
957
01:01:29,340 --> 01:01:32,380
So he's looking down at the ground,
his trainer's there, giving us a
958
01:01:32,460 --> 01:01:34,940
part, and I'm giving
it the whole "Big I Am".
959
01:01:35,020 --> 01:01:36,780
And I went back to the corner,
put the mouthpiece in, it was like a
960
01:01:36,860 --> 01:01:39,700
movie, it was great, this
is gonna be so easy, you know.
961
01:01:39,780 --> 01:01:41,180
And the bell rang and I went down...
962
01:01:41,260 --> 01:01:42,700
Whack!
963
01:01:42,780 --> 01:01:44,660
Fuckin' hell that hurt.
964
01:01:48,540 --> 01:01:50,460
Oh... Collins.
965
01:01:51,620 --> 01:01:54,100
Is that counted as a knockdown?
No, it's not.
966
01:01:56,140 --> 01:01:58,420
Collins jumped up
and shouted, no knockdown.
967
01:01:58,500 --> 01:02:00,780
But it did seem to be
a glance of the right hand.
968
01:02:00,860 --> 01:02:04,220
LOUD ROAR
969
01:02:14,380 --> 01:02:16,540
Collins was very
clever, a very clever person.
970
01:02:16,620 --> 01:02:18,660
He had a good,
very good brain on him.
971
01:02:18,740 --> 01:02:21,220
He knew, as he said they had to
cancel each other out right through
972
01:02:21,300 --> 01:02:26,100
the fight, because if you let
Eubanks flow, you'd get murdered.
973
01:02:26,180 --> 01:02:28,020
He'd... cor!
974
01:02:34,780 --> 01:02:36,820
Didn't land with that, the crowd at
the back of the hall thought he did,
975
01:02:36,900 --> 01:02:38,660
it only hit the glove of Eubank.
976
01:02:38,740 --> 01:02:41,180
And those punches
from Collins do get through.
977
01:02:41,780 --> 01:02:43,300
Three or four of them.
978
01:02:43,380 --> 01:02:47,900
He did like to stand back, and he
was accused of being boring at times
979
01:02:47,980 --> 01:02:49,620
and one pace.
980
01:02:49,700 --> 01:02:51,180
Collins knew that.
981
01:02:51,260 --> 01:02:55,740
Collins knew to keep the pace of the
fight high, go in, do his work, and
982
01:02:55,820 --> 01:02:59,300
take a step back, and then just
retreat and move to the left and go
983
01:02:59,380 --> 01:03:00,700
in again.
984
01:03:00,780 --> 01:03:02,420
So it was a tactical thing.
985
01:03:02,500 --> 01:03:05,140
And I even said it
in the commentary that night.
986
01:03:05,220 --> 01:03:08,940
I said, you know, Eubank can't allow
Collins to go in, steal a couple of
987
01:03:09,020 --> 01:03:12,020
shots and then get back out
again, he's got to go to him.
988
01:03:12,100 --> 01:03:16,660
Everybody has their qualities
and his quality was fighting,
989
01:03:16,740 --> 01:03:20,220
backing up, you know, getting hit
and not having any effect on him,
990
01:03:20,300 --> 01:03:22,540
and walking guys
on to counter punches.
991
01:03:22,620 --> 01:03:25,260
And by God, could he do it well!
992
01:03:34,300 --> 01:03:40,620
The gratitude I have for being
chosen for this vocation, I can't
993
01:03:40,700 --> 01:03:46,580
tell you how lucky I've been that I
did it correctly, because you can't
994
01:03:46,660 --> 01:03:50,020
do it, you can't make it if you
don't do it correctly, but if you do
995
01:03:50,100 --> 01:03:55,980
it correctly, you continue to, you
continue to enjoy your career over
996
01:03:56,060 --> 01:03:59,100
and over and over and over.
997
01:04:01,900 --> 01:04:04,540
Collins, once again he's past.
998
01:04:08,780 --> 01:04:11,780
He did seem to hurt Eubank a
little bit there with them punches.
999
01:04:11,860 --> 01:04:15,540
Chris Eubank was verbal,
but so was I, and I would talk to
1000
01:04:15,620 --> 01:04:18,300
him, and I felt
so comfortable in there.
1001
01:04:18,380 --> 01:04:21,540
I felt so well prepared, and I was
enjoying it, because I knew, I knew I
1002
01:04:21,620 --> 01:04:22,820
could beat him.
1003
01:04:22,900 --> 01:04:26,220
I knew I had the advantage, so I knew
I had the skills and experience to
beat him.
1004
01:04:27,100 --> 01:04:28,540
So I felt pretty comfortable.
1005
01:04:28,620 --> 01:04:30,860
He was dangerous, he
did catch with some good shots.
1006
01:04:30,940 --> 01:04:33,220
So I was always very much aware of
his danger, and I knew as the fight
1007
01:04:33,300 --> 01:04:35,380
went on, and I felt I was in control.
1008
01:04:35,460 --> 01:04:37,900
As the fight went on, he was getting
more dangerous because he knew it
1009
01:04:37,980 --> 01:04:39,380
wasn't going his way.
1010
01:04:39,460 --> 01:04:42,980
Surely there could be no
doubting Collins' desire here.
1011
01:05:03,780 --> 01:05:05,100
I feel Eubank's got to pick it up.
1012
01:05:05,180 --> 01:05:08,260
He's got to try and do something
big in one of these rounds.
1013
01:05:08,340 --> 01:05:10,980
I just feel he's slightly
getting out worked by Collins.
1014
01:05:11,060 --> 01:05:14,100
Between Freddie King and the Tony
Quinn teaching me one inch punch,
1015
01:05:14,180 --> 01:05:17,140
that was the jab to the head, drop
the legs, straight to the body, and
1016
01:05:17,220 --> 01:05:20,460
come back with the left
hook, which is my best shot.
1017
01:05:20,540 --> 01:05:23,980
LOUD CHEER
1018
01:05:24,060 --> 01:05:26,420
I reckon if it had caught him,
it would have knocked him out, but
1019
01:05:26,500 --> 01:05:29,180
because I put so much drive into the
right hand, I practically lifted him
1020
01:05:29,260 --> 01:05:32,260
off his feet, and drove him back
so far, then when the left hook came
1021
01:05:32,340 --> 01:05:34,540
around, I actually
-- he was too far away.
1022
01:05:34,620 --> 01:05:35,820
I missed him.
1023
01:05:35,900 --> 01:05:38,300
Crashes through his right.
Eubank is in trouble here.
1024
01:05:38,660 --> 01:05:41,220
Well Collins said he
had the extra punch power.
1025
01:05:41,820 --> 01:05:43,980
And Eubank comes
back in terrific style...
1026
01:05:45,740 --> 01:05:48,020
What a round this
is, look at Eubank.
1027
01:05:48,100 --> 01:05:50,180
Suddenly come back with an answer.
1028
01:05:50,260 --> 01:05:52,340
He's been stung by that...
BELL RINGS
1029
01:05:52,420 --> 01:05:55,780
It was the first time
he's been down since 1991.
1030
01:05:55,860 --> 01:05:58,460
There were several fights where
Eubank just, we thought he just
1031
01:05:58,540 --> 01:06:00,620
didn't do enough
to get the decision.
1032
01:06:00,700 --> 01:06:03,900
But then you're judging it against
him, and then the judges all come
1033
01:06:03,980 --> 01:06:07,380
back for him and then you
start to think, hold on a second,
1034
01:06:07,460 --> 01:06:10,540
well if I do that, I'll be
made to look like an idiot again.
1035
01:06:10,620 --> 01:06:13,060
And so you start to think, well,
the close rounds, maybe I'll give it
1036
01:06:13,140 --> 01:06:14,420
to Eubank.
1037
01:06:14,500 --> 01:06:16,820
There were a lot of, and I
don't mean this to be in any way
1038
01:06:16,900 --> 01:06:19,940
disrespectful, Eubank
was a tremendous fighter.
1039
01:06:20,020 --> 01:06:22,820
Often it looked like
he was out-worked for a round.
1040
01:06:22,900 --> 01:06:25,620
And I would say it's, you know, he's
A, and the other guy's B, and I was
1041
01:06:25,700 --> 01:06:27,500
giving B rounds that were close.
1042
01:06:27,580 --> 01:06:29,460
And then I see at the end of the
fight, actually all those rounds
1043
01:06:29,540 --> 01:06:30,940
were given to Eubank.
1044
01:06:31,020 --> 01:06:33,540
Good moments again from Collins,
Eubank has to do something special.
1045
01:06:33,620 --> 01:06:36,220
He's got to pull a big one, and
he's trying with that right hand.
1046
01:06:37,340 --> 01:06:39,460
Key phase of the fight now.
1047
01:06:49,140 --> 01:06:55,620
LOUD ROAR
1048
01:06:55,700 --> 01:07:01,220
The Irish crowd, a lot of them were
on their feet as those punches got
through.
1049
01:07:02,460 --> 01:07:04,460
When he had a fight and he'd come
back in the gym, he'd had a few
1050
01:07:04,540 --> 01:07:06,940
weeks off, which he never took a
few weeks off the gym, but he hadn't
1051
01:07:07,020 --> 01:07:09,580
sparred, he let
the opponents hit him.
1052
01:07:09,660 --> 01:07:11,540
And I said, what are
you doing, what are you doing?
1053
01:07:11,620 --> 01:07:14,100
I need to feel the pain,
I need to feel the pain.
1054
01:07:14,180 --> 01:07:16,780
That's what he was like, and he
would overcome it with his mental,
1055
01:07:16,860 --> 01:07:22,740
as I said, I've never had a fighter
like him with such mental strength.
1056
01:07:22,820 --> 01:07:27,100
I used to say to him, don't rely on
that punch resistance to win fights.
1057
01:07:27,180 --> 01:07:29,420
He's no, no, I won't, he
said, I know what I'm doing.
1058
01:07:29,500 --> 01:07:33,060
Crushing left hand, but Collins
takes the punches as the bell goes
1059
01:07:33,140 --> 01:07:34,340
to end that round.
1060
01:07:34,420 --> 01:07:36,380
Eubank punches the air.
1061
01:07:37,620 --> 01:07:40,740
A puncher always
has a chance in a fight.
1062
01:07:40,820 --> 01:07:43,780
Doesn't matter how far behind he
is, a puncher always has a chance.
1063
01:07:43,860 --> 01:07:48,820
Eubank had picked himself up off the
floor against Nigel Benn to stop
Nigel Benn.
1064
01:07:48,900 --> 01:07:54,380
In that awful final round against
Michael Watson, he was, he's out on
1065
01:07:54,460 --> 01:07:59,820
his feet, he was knocked down, stood
up and delivered this uppercut,
1066
01:07:59,900 --> 01:08:05,180
which was, you know, the punch that
essentially ended Michael Watson's
1067
01:08:05,260 --> 01:08:07,060
career and almost ended his life.
1068
01:08:07,140 --> 01:08:12,060
So he had this
extraordinary explosive power.
1069
01:08:12,140 --> 01:08:14,700
His WBO Super
middleweight championship.
1070
01:08:14,780 --> 01:08:18,340
In this his 15th...
and he's caught Collins
1071
01:08:18,420 --> 01:08:21,100
As I was going down,
just look at my expression.
1072
01:08:21,180 --> 01:08:23,780
I'm going, I'm smiling, I'm going,
fuck, you know, because I knew I was
1073
01:08:23,860 --> 01:08:25,060
caught square.
1074
01:08:25,140 --> 01:08:26,940
I got up on one knee, and the
referee came to me, and I got up and
1075
01:08:27,020 --> 01:08:29,260
I put up the glove, and he says,
are you fine? I said, yeah, great.
1076
01:08:29,340 --> 01:08:30,980
And then Eubank ran at me.
1077
01:08:33,180 --> 01:08:38,460
I thought, two or three more punches
and it's over, and you just expected
1078
01:08:38,540 --> 01:08:45,940
Eubank to charge in there with
fists flailing and finish the fight.
1079
01:08:51,340 --> 01:08:53,100
Is Collins' head really clear?
1080
01:08:53,180 --> 01:08:56,900
I was banging the canvas, finish the
fight, finish the fight, finish him,
1081
01:08:56,980 --> 01:08:58,460
finish him off and he wouldn't.
1082
01:08:58,540 --> 01:09:00,140
He just walked about.
1083
01:09:01,100 --> 01:09:06,180
May make the crisis a very deep
and alarming one indeed for Steve
Collins.
1084
01:09:06,260 --> 01:09:08,780
Yes, his legs
still don't look solid.
1085
01:09:08,860 --> 01:09:14,060
He postured, he posed, he didn't
make the commitment, and frankly,
1086
01:09:14,140 --> 01:09:16,060
let Steve Collins off the hook.
1087
01:09:16,140 --> 01:09:18,620
And Steve was a good
enough fighter to take advantage.
1088
01:09:18,980 --> 01:09:20,740
What do you think he's saying?
1089
01:09:21,420 --> 01:09:25,260
I think he's just trying to lull
him into a false sense of security.
1090
01:09:25,340 --> 01:09:28,460
He's trying to bring Collins in,
trying to make him make a mistake
1091
01:09:28,540 --> 01:09:30,020
so he can counter.
1092
01:09:30,980 --> 01:09:32,540
They're both
saying, come on, come on.
1093
01:09:32,620 --> 01:09:36,100
I think they both want the other
to lead, so that they can counter.
1094
01:09:36,180 --> 01:09:39,780
He was just hopeless at coming
forward, and he was pretty gassed at
1095
01:09:39,860 --> 01:09:41,220
that stage.
1096
01:09:41,300 --> 01:09:44,140
And even though he knew he
was well behind, he couldn't do it.
1097
01:09:44,220 --> 01:09:48,300
He simply couldn't come forward
and fight aggressively enough.
1098
01:10:00,980 --> 01:10:04,100
I don't want to, I'd rather not
actually talk on that for this
1099
01:10:04,180 --> 01:10:11,060
reason that it takes credit away
from Steve, that I can't do, no.
1100
01:10:11,140 --> 01:10:15,260
I chose to do what I did
and it was a choice I made.
1101
01:10:16,740 --> 01:10:19,980
He was in trouble in the early
seconds of the round, and I was kind
1102
01:10:20,060 --> 01:10:23,140
of expecting a Eubank barrage
really, for the rest of the round.
1103
01:10:23,220 --> 01:10:24,540
That has not happened.
1104
01:10:25,780 --> 01:10:27,340
That was a slip.
1105
01:10:27,420 --> 01:10:31,380
As the bell goes, but that was
a 10-8 round for Chris Eubank.
1106
01:10:31,460 --> 01:10:33,020
He come back to the corner.
1107
01:10:33,100 --> 01:10:35,540
And I've got him to
realise, I slapped him so hard.
1108
01:10:35,620 --> 01:10:37,780
I said, you've just blown
it boy, you've just blown it.
1109
01:10:41,180 --> 01:10:42,700
You're gonna stop him.
1110
01:10:42,780 --> 01:10:44,300
Sit down, sit down.
1111
01:10:44,380 --> 01:10:47,380
Davey seemed to be furious with him
for not finishing the fight when
1112
01:10:47,460 --> 01:10:52,420
he could have and he said, you've
got two rounds to win the fight.
1113
01:10:52,500 --> 01:10:54,860
You've got two
rounds to save your title.
1114
01:10:54,940 --> 01:10:59,380
Pretty close again here as
they touch gloves, the final three
minutes.
1115
01:11:00,620 --> 01:11:04,220
But one thing strikes me, try
telling this big Irish crowd that
1116
01:11:04,300 --> 01:11:06,220
Collins is not ahead.
1117
01:11:06,300 --> 01:11:11,300
The press, or a few of them anyway,
think Eubank might be winning.
1118
01:11:18,180 --> 01:11:21,740
I've never been under so much
pressure, I've never been so wanting
1119
01:11:21,820 --> 01:11:27,380
to succeed and determined and in a
dangerous place ever in my career,
1120
01:11:27,460 --> 01:11:30,740
as I had been that night,
and I did put myself under pressure.
1121
01:11:30,820 --> 01:11:35,540
And I did say things public to
purposely put myself under pressure.
1122
01:11:35,620 --> 01:11:37,140
I wanted to be under pressure.
1123
01:11:37,220 --> 01:11:41,540
I wanted to be in a
situation that you have to win this.
1124
01:11:41,620 --> 01:11:45,140
After all you've said, all
you've gobbed off, all you've done,
1125
01:11:45,220 --> 01:11:48,300
if you don't back
this up, you're finished.
1126
01:11:51,900 --> 01:11:55,260
Whoa, big right from Eubank!
1127
01:11:55,340 --> 01:11:57,580
Collins took it
very, very well indeed.
1128
01:12:03,540 --> 01:12:08,540
I would rank Chris Eubank
as the physically strongest,
1129
01:12:08,620 --> 01:12:12,620
toughest and probably one of the most
determined fighters I've ever fought.
1130
01:12:12,700 --> 01:12:15,540
I felt he was dangerous to
the last second of the last round,
1131
01:12:15,620 --> 01:12:19,420
and really wanted to keep his title.
1132
01:12:19,860 --> 01:12:23,380
Really on instinct, with the
batteries going ever flatter...
1133
01:12:23,460 --> 01:12:25,660
BELL RINGS
1134
01:12:27,100 --> 01:12:29,140
Who's got that?
1135
01:12:29,220 --> 01:12:31,020
We shall see.
1136
01:12:33,660 --> 01:12:40,300
It was close, as I said, all the
newspapers and TV had him two rounds
up.
1137
01:12:43,780 --> 01:12:47,300
Look at the tape, and
you'll see me inside in the ring,
1138
01:12:47,380 --> 01:12:50,340
I said, Steve, I think you've won.
1139
01:12:50,420 --> 01:12:55,060
And he threw his arm around my neck,
and he said, I know I have won.
1140
01:13:04,100 --> 01:13:08,300
Chris Eubank was the golden goose
of Sky Sports and Matchroom Boxing.
1141
01:13:08,380 --> 01:13:12,020
So were they going to let -- and I
won't even say it was a close fight
1142
01:13:12,100 --> 01:13:14,300
when he fought Steve,
I don't think it was.
1143
01:13:14,380 --> 01:13:17,420
I think Steve won the fight by
probably eight to four rounds.
1144
01:13:17,500 --> 01:13:19,740
But could we see him being robbed?
1145
01:13:26,580 --> 01:13:29,620
If you can keep your head when
all about you are losing theirs
1146
01:13:29,700 --> 01:13:31,460
and blaming it on you.
1147
01:13:31,540 --> 01:13:36,340
If you can trust yourself, when all
men doubt you, but make allowance
1148
01:13:36,420 --> 01:13:38,140
for their doubting too.
1149
01:13:38,220 --> 01:13:42,300
If you can dream and
not make dreams your master.
1150
01:13:42,380 --> 01:13:46,100
If you can think and
not make thoughts your aim.
1151
01:13:46,820 --> 01:13:50,340
If you can meet
with triumph and disaster,
1152
01:13:50,420 --> 01:13:53,940
and treat those two
imposters just the same.
1153
01:13:54,020 --> 01:13:59,500
Yours is this earth
and everything that is in it,
1154
01:13:59,580 --> 01:14:04,380
and which is more, you
will be a standard bearer.
1155
01:14:05,380 --> 01:14:06,740
You will be an example.
1156
01:14:06,820 --> 01:14:08,220
You will be a benchmark.
1157
01:14:08,300 --> 01:14:10,500
You will be, you will be a man.
1158
01:14:11,020 --> 01:14:16,060
Ladies and gentlemen, we
have a unanimous decision...
1159
01:14:16,140 --> 01:14:19,860
CHEERING
1160
01:14:21,180 --> 01:14:23,420
When I was writing the column
for that Saturday, it was Saturday
1161
01:14:23,500 --> 01:14:26,340
evening column, which is the night
of the fight, I knew I was sticking
1162
01:14:26,420 --> 01:14:30,500
my neck out, but I did go for
Collins, it was against the grain,
1163
01:14:30,580 --> 01:14:34,780
because nobody else seemed to be,
you know, convinced that he could do
it.
1164
01:14:34,860 --> 01:14:38,140
Ladies and gentlemen,
the winner and the new...
1165
01:14:38,220 --> 01:14:43,340
LOUD CHEERING
1166
01:14:48,860 --> 01:14:50,820
Eubanks was the kiddie on the block.
1167
01:14:50,900 --> 01:14:54,380
He was the
shining example of success.
1168
01:14:54,460 --> 01:14:58,740
And then this little kid from Cabra,
from a working class family, comes
1169
01:14:58,820 --> 01:15:01,940
in and just takes it from under him.
1170
01:15:04,060 --> 01:15:07,540
It was just the worst idea ever
had, as it turned out, wasn't it?
1171
01:15:07,620 --> 01:15:10,740
You know, we had Steve Collins had
just won the middleweight title,
1172
01:15:10,820 --> 01:15:12,260
he beat Chris Pyatt.
1173
01:15:12,340 --> 01:15:14,180
And then I come up with this idea.
1174
01:15:14,260 --> 01:15:18,300
Look, you know, we can't really seem
to find a big middleweight fight.
1175
01:15:18,380 --> 01:15:21,180
Why don't you move
up to super middleweight?
1176
01:15:21,260 --> 01:15:24,100
And I'm virtually saying to
him, why don't you move up to super
1177
01:15:24,180 --> 01:15:25,820
middleweight and get beat?
1178
01:15:25,900 --> 01:15:27,780
Because it doesn't really matter,
because you're still going to be
1179
01:15:27,860 --> 01:15:30,940
middleweight champion and
you're gonna get a colossal payday.
1180
01:15:31,620 --> 01:15:34,060
It all seemed to tick so many boxes.
1181
01:15:34,140 --> 01:15:37,380
And then, you know, Steve forgot
the script, didn't he really?
1182
01:15:39,220 --> 01:15:40,820
No complaints.
1183
01:15:40,900 --> 01:15:42,860
I don't have any complaints.
1184
01:15:42,940 --> 01:15:46,700
An opponent brings you to places
where you can only look back and
1185
01:15:46,780 --> 01:15:49,380
thank them for.
1186
01:15:50,140 --> 01:15:54,220
I thank them for putting me
through what they put me through.
1187
01:15:54,300 --> 01:15:59,140
In regards to that first loss,
it was the relief that, you know,
1188
01:15:59,220 --> 01:16:02,340
perhaps you can see me now
as a human being, because I am.
1189
01:16:05,340 --> 01:16:08,140
I tell you the
truth, it was very close.
1190
01:16:08,220 --> 01:16:14,900
It was a very, very close fight,
and it was -- when Stephen won,
1191
01:16:14,980 --> 01:16:18,300
I needn't tell you,
oh my God, it was great.
1192
01:16:18,380 --> 01:16:22,860
It was great because
Eubanks was good too, you know.
1193
01:16:22,940 --> 01:16:26,900
And they all thought Eubanks was
going to win because he was heard
1194
01:16:26,980 --> 01:16:32,060
of, and he was known and he was
tough, but he wasn't tougher than
Stephen.
1195
01:16:36,540 --> 01:16:39,820
I just thought Steve was
the perfect guy to work with.
1196
01:16:40,580 --> 01:16:42,660
It made it all very easy for me.
1197
01:16:42,740 --> 01:16:45,740
I felt I was very lucky, but I
thought there was something you see
1198
01:16:45,820 --> 01:16:51,380
strange going on, from the time I
was with my dad watching that movie,
1199
01:16:51,460 --> 01:16:56,100
then I always thought I was going to
be in Vegas, like all, you know, it
1200
01:16:56,180 --> 01:16:57,940
was destiny, really.
1201
01:16:58,020 --> 01:17:00,420
Steve never lost again.
1202
01:17:00,500 --> 01:17:02,300
It's like a path.
1203
01:17:02,380 --> 01:17:06,460
So we got on that path together for
a while, and we were both winners.
1204
01:17:08,700 --> 01:17:10,020
It was elevated into the air.
1205
01:17:10,100 --> 01:17:12,420
I'm sure it's probably picked up on
my brothers and family, but I just
1206
01:17:12,500 --> 01:17:18,180
rose into the air, and I
thought, do you know, if I die now,
1207
01:17:18,260 --> 01:17:19,860
I've achieved it.
1208
01:18:52,420 --> 01:19:06,020
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