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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:25,580 --> 00:00:33,820 SOUND OF SPEEDBALL BEING PUNCHED 2 00:00:38,620 --> 00:00:42,660 When I was a small child, my father took me to a movie, and the movie was 3 00:00:42,740 --> 00:00:44,540 called Joe Palooka. 4 00:00:47,740 --> 00:00:52,860 I was about six at the time, and I was very impressed by this movie, 5 00:00:52,940 --> 00:00:56,660 because in it, they trained this young guy to be a champion boxer. 6 00:01:01,300 --> 00:01:04,740 Coming out of the movie, I can remember my dad is holding my hand, 7 00:01:04,820 --> 00:01:09,220 and I said to him, one day I'm going to train a man to be the world 8 00:01:09,300 --> 00:01:11,140 champion boxer. 9 00:01:11,620 --> 00:01:15,220 And I remember my dad stopped and looked down at me, and he said to me, 10 00:01:15,300 --> 00:01:18,220 well knowing you Tony, you probably will. 11 00:01:18,980 --> 00:01:22,700 I got this new manager, and she said to me, what do you want? 12 00:01:22,780 --> 00:01:25,140 I said, I want you to get me a boxer. 13 00:01:32,220 --> 00:01:36,180 I also had this thing about Las Vegas that I didn't want to get into 14 00:01:36,260 --> 00:01:40,540 things, even relationships, too deeply, because one day I would have 15 00:01:40,620 --> 00:01:43,260 to go to Las Vegas and start a new life. 16 00:01:43,340 --> 00:01:46,900 So when Colette rang me on the phone and said, 17 00:01:46,980 --> 00:01:51,460 I've got your boxer, and I said, where is it gonna be? 18 00:01:51,540 --> 00:01:54,180 She said, Las Vegas. I knew we couldn't lose then. 19 00:01:54,260 --> 00:01:57,780 It was all over in my mind, I was there and we were going to win, 20 00:01:57,860 --> 00:01:59,460 and that was the end of it. 21 00:01:59,540 --> 00:02:02,860 Joe, where you going, pal? I don't know. 22 00:02:02,940 --> 00:02:04,260 I hate to go back home. 23 00:02:04,340 --> 00:02:05,900 You ain't going back home. 24 00:02:05,980 --> 00:02:07,700 I just signed you up for another fight. 25 00:02:07,780 --> 00:02:09,220 You'll be a sensation. 26 00:02:09,300 --> 00:02:11,220 Guess who you're gonna fight? Guess who? 27 00:02:11,300 --> 00:02:12,860 Who? The champion. 28 00:02:13,300 --> 00:02:16,820 Just listen to the roars from the Irish crowd. 29 00:02:16,900 --> 00:02:19,020 Welcome to the lion's den, Chris Eubank. 30 00:02:20,780 --> 00:02:23,220 This is a tough, battle hardened fighter. 31 00:02:26,460 --> 00:02:29,100 I said at 14 years old that I would become a world champion and 32 00:02:29,180 --> 00:02:33,620 I'd never boxed before and it shows you that the universe is listening to you. 33 00:02:33,700 --> 00:02:37,500 And it doesn't emphasise the humour, I could have been joking and 34 00:02:37,580 --> 00:02:39,900 it gives you what you ask. 35 00:02:40,500 --> 00:02:42,380 These are desperate moments... 36 00:02:48,100 --> 00:02:51,060 Just one more punch like that from Eubank. 37 00:02:51,140 --> 00:02:54,340 Collins must stand off to get through this round. 38 00:02:56,020 --> 00:02:58,140 Eubank strutting his stuff. 39 00:03:00,420 --> 00:03:01,740 This is mind games. 40 00:03:01,820 --> 00:03:05,460 He has now convinced everybody here that he is the man. 41 00:03:05,540 --> 00:03:06,940 He's the champion. 42 00:03:07,020 --> 00:03:08,500 It's the Chris Eubank show. 43 00:03:08,580 --> 00:03:10,300 I gotta take this away. 44 00:03:15,620 --> 00:03:18,580 The right hand's got Collins! The right hand's got Collins! 45 00:03:18,660 --> 00:03:20,300 What a cracking contest! 46 00:03:32,620 --> 00:03:37,180 From Brattan, the reigning WBL super middle-weight champion of the world, 47 00:03:37,260 --> 00:03:39,820 Chris Eubank. 48 00:03:41,460 --> 00:03:45,180 The boxing business, you know, it's not about great promoters or great 49 00:03:45,260 --> 00:03:50,620 trainers, it's about great fighters, because great fighters make promoters great. 50 00:03:50,700 --> 00:03:53,020 They make trainers great. 51 00:03:53,100 --> 00:03:55,820 On their own, we would disappear into oblivion. 52 00:03:55,900 --> 00:03:57,220 We need talent. 53 00:03:57,300 --> 00:04:01,100 And Eubank was top of the tree when it comes to selling his own form of talent. 54 00:04:02,980 --> 00:04:04,940 What are we looking for? We're looking for entertainment, 55 00:04:05,020 --> 00:04:06,620 that is interesting. 56 00:04:06,700 --> 00:04:11,180 You're doing something where you have the control to do what, to 57 00:04:11,260 --> 00:04:14,820 engross, you know, the eyes. 58 00:04:15,700 --> 00:04:18,140 You know, how do I win the hearts, you know? 59 00:04:18,220 --> 00:04:21,220 How do I get people to sit up on their seats like this? 60 00:04:22,180 --> 00:04:24,620 You know, I can remember watching fights. 61 00:04:24,700 --> 00:04:27,500 I'm not watching the fight, I'm watching one guy, every time the 62 00:04:27,580 --> 00:04:30,540 camera comes around and the guy is just sitting like that. 63 00:04:30,620 --> 00:04:32,860 I want to get that man to move. 64 00:04:32,940 --> 00:04:34,820 I don't want him to just sit there. 65 00:04:36,820 --> 00:04:38,260 I want to get him... 66 00:04:39,340 --> 00:04:41,700 How do I move my audience? 67 00:04:52,100 --> 00:04:54,940 We're at the start of a fabulous adventure on Sky Sports. 68 00:04:55,740 --> 00:04:59,420 Mauricio Amaral. 69 00:04:59,500 --> 00:05:03,180 Some people say that Eubank must be insane to try this, eight fights in a year. 70 00:05:03,260 --> 00:05:05,820 Sam Storey. 71 00:05:05,900 --> 00:05:11,060 He's got a tremendous right hand, he's got big heart, and he's different. 72 00:05:12,340 --> 00:05:15,020 Dangerous Dan Schommer. 73 00:05:15,500 --> 00:05:18,260 Very much the star attraction tonight, Eubank. 74 00:05:19,540 --> 00:05:22,220 Henry Wharton. 75 00:05:23,340 --> 00:05:27,900 He's still the man in charge of this WBO super middleweight division. 76 00:05:28,980 --> 00:05:33,420 Would you please welcome into the ring, the boxers of the WBO super 77 00:05:33,500 --> 00:05:36,140 middleweight championship of the world. 78 00:05:36,220 --> 00:05:38,860 First the challenger for the title... 79 00:05:43,660 --> 00:05:47,900 For me, Chris Eubank wasn't a boxer. 80 00:05:48,500 --> 00:05:54,860 You know, he wasn't, he wasn't, you wouldn't say he had a great punch either. 81 00:05:55,700 --> 00:06:01,260 He just didn't like boxing me because he knew I was a boxer, not a fighter. 82 00:06:02,580 --> 00:06:05,820 Belfast loves boxers, Belfast loves a trier. 83 00:06:05,900 --> 00:06:08,500 Belfast loves people who give their all in the ring. 84 00:06:08,580 --> 00:06:12,780 Belfast cannot stand somebody who struts, who is arrogant, and they 85 00:06:12,860 --> 00:06:15,820 love to see somebody like that go on the seat of their pants. 86 00:06:16,500 --> 00:06:17,900 Ray Close fought him twice. 87 00:06:17,980 --> 00:06:20,980 Thought he beat him the first time, but didn't get the decision. 88 00:06:21,060 --> 00:06:22,940 He fought him the second time. 89 00:06:23,020 --> 00:06:25,180 You know, didn't fight as well the second time. 90 00:06:25,260 --> 00:06:27,620 And Ray Close felt he won it, but I didn't. 91 00:06:27,700 --> 00:06:29,740 So they were going for a third fight. 92 00:06:30,460 --> 00:06:34,300 There was a deal that would have netted him 1.6 million pounds, 93 00:06:34,380 --> 00:06:36,260 he would have been made for life. 94 00:06:36,340 --> 00:06:40,500 However, Ray did go for a routine brain scan in the Royal Victoria 95 00:06:40,580 --> 00:06:44,100 Hospital, and a couple of days afterwards, Barney Eastwood 96 00:06:44,180 --> 00:06:48,580 travelled up to his house in Bangor, and he broke the bad news that they 97 00:06:48,660 --> 00:06:51,340 had discovered lesions on his brain. 98 00:06:51,420 --> 00:06:54,860 So in essence, the British Boxing Board of Control intervened and says 99 00:06:54,940 --> 00:06:57,380 that they were going to take away his license. 100 00:06:59,300 --> 00:07:01,540 The fight that didn't happen... 101 00:07:02,700 --> 00:07:05,060 That long ago. 102 00:07:07,940 --> 00:07:10,340 Well, gentlemen, thank you very much for your understanding. 103 00:07:10,420 --> 00:07:15,060 I think Ray is to be congratulated for turning up today, and let's wish 104 00:07:15,140 --> 00:07:17,660 him best in luck in whatever he does from here. 105 00:07:18,780 --> 00:07:22,660 You have a devastated Ray Close having the face of the cameras. 106 00:07:22,740 --> 00:07:27,140 His career was in ruins, it was a cruel spectacle, an absolutely awful 107 00:07:27,220 --> 00:07:28,820 spectacle to behold. 108 00:07:29,980 --> 00:07:33,420 I remember that press conference, you know, and it was really sad. 109 00:07:33,500 --> 00:07:36,100 It was, it was tragic to see Ray Close there. 110 00:07:37,020 --> 00:07:40,660 I was kind of very uncomfortable watching one man whose career is 111 00:07:40,740 --> 00:07:44,660 ending and another man who's just been handed the opportunity of a lifetime. 112 00:07:46,220 --> 00:07:49,540 If it wasn't bad enough that your career and your livelihood was 113 00:07:49,620 --> 00:07:54,540 shattered by the MRI scan, and you had to sit there at that press 114 00:07:54,620 --> 00:07:58,460 conference between Barney Eastwood and Barry Hearn, you know, you'd 115 00:07:58,540 --> 00:08:00,540 nothing to say, you'd nothing to add. 116 00:08:00,620 --> 00:08:02,660 You just felt like a bit part player. 117 00:08:02,740 --> 00:08:07,020 And then Close is asked to vacate the seat so Collins can sit in the 118 00:08:07,100 --> 00:08:09,580 middle of the two mega promoters. 119 00:08:11,020 --> 00:08:16,380 I went through the WBO top 10, I went through the WBC top 20, or the 120 00:08:16,460 --> 00:08:20,100 IBF top 12, and the WBA top 15. 121 00:08:20,180 --> 00:08:25,100 And then, really, I have to say, there was only one meaningful 122 00:08:25,180 --> 00:08:30,100 contest that could be made, in such a way to guarantee value for money 123 00:08:30,180 --> 00:08:33,420 for everyone, and at the same time, provide a meaningful fight. 124 00:08:33,500 --> 00:08:35,660 They needed a replacement. 125 00:08:35,740 --> 00:08:39,580 And I seem to be the guy who was replacing everybody throughout my 126 00:08:39,660 --> 00:08:40,900 career, you know. 127 00:08:41,820 --> 00:08:43,780 Getting the fight and getting there was like a Rocky story. 128 00:08:43,860 --> 00:08:45,180 It was like a movie. 129 00:09:01,260 --> 00:09:03,100 Stephen loved it. 130 00:09:03,180 --> 00:09:05,620 He loved the boxing. 131 00:09:05,700 --> 00:09:08,620 Honest to God, he was just -- he loved it. 132 00:09:08,700 --> 00:09:11,780 He never used to go out, you know, the way the lads do go out dancing 133 00:09:11,860 --> 00:09:16,660 and going here, there -- boxing was his, was his passion. 134 00:09:17,820 --> 00:09:19,740 I had my first fight when I was eight. 135 00:09:19,820 --> 00:09:22,580 So basically a club in the city centre. 136 00:09:22,660 --> 00:09:26,260 I remember the kids that were there against me from the neighbourhood, 137 00:09:26,340 --> 00:09:28,820 and I was there, I felt like on my own going into the lion's den, 138 00:09:28,900 --> 00:09:30,660 everything about it appealed to me. 139 00:09:30,740 --> 00:09:32,820 I knew there and then this is what I was gonna do. 140 00:09:36,060 --> 00:09:40,100 I wanted him to get a trade, oh he loved the boxing, and that was it. 141 00:09:40,180 --> 00:09:42,260 But he didn't make it his life. 142 00:09:42,740 --> 00:09:47,900 In the beginning, he got an apprenticeship as electrician. 143 00:09:47,980 --> 00:09:53,980 He was happy boxing, and he was happy training, and it was no bother. 144 00:09:54,060 --> 00:09:55,940 There was no big deal about it. 145 00:09:56,020 --> 00:10:00,180 We didn't think he was going to be a world title or anything like that, 146 00:10:00,260 --> 00:10:02,220 but he was very good. 147 00:10:05,420 --> 00:10:08,140 My father had just passed away recently, and I thought to myself, 148 00:10:08,220 --> 00:10:10,700 I can make my own decisions now and do what I want to do. 149 00:10:10,780 --> 00:10:13,900 So I gave up my job, a very good job, which my dad probably wouldn't have 150 00:10:13,980 --> 00:10:16,020 let me give up if he was around. 151 00:10:16,100 --> 00:10:19,900 And I said, now's the time to make the change and go to the States and 152 00:10:19,980 --> 00:10:21,780 become a professional boxer. 153 00:10:22,660 --> 00:10:25,580 Marvin Hagler was the middleweight champion of the world at the time. 154 00:10:25,660 --> 00:10:28,540 I watched Marvin Hagler, I loved his style. 155 00:10:28,620 --> 00:10:30,580 I wanted to learn to fight like he fought. 156 00:10:30,660 --> 00:10:34,180 I believed his style would suit me, so I decided that I'm gonna, you 157 00:10:34,260 --> 00:10:38,620 know, pack my bags and go over to the United States and train with Marvin Hagler. 158 00:10:39,300 --> 00:10:41,500 So I settled in Boston, Massachusetts, got a little 159 00:10:41,580 --> 00:10:43,180 apartment, got a job. 160 00:10:48,300 --> 00:10:50,500 One evening, I drove to Brockton, Massachusetts. 161 00:10:53,220 --> 00:10:57,820 I was introduced to Goody Petronelli, and I said, I'm gonna take over from Marvin. 162 00:10:57,900 --> 00:11:00,380 Anybody else you say that to them, they think you're a lunatic. 163 00:11:00,460 --> 00:11:02,780 But he went, that's great, and welcome into our gym, I'm delighted 164 00:11:02,860 --> 00:11:04,700 to have you here, so he believed in me. 165 00:11:04,780 --> 00:11:09,580 Goody Petronelli was a very positive person, and he's a very clever, wise 166 00:11:09,660 --> 00:11:12,340 man, and he gave me confidence. 167 00:11:12,420 --> 00:11:14,780 You know, it was a great start in my career. 168 00:11:16,420 --> 00:11:17,940 Hadn't seen him in two years. 169 00:11:18,020 --> 00:11:20,020 And when I walked into the Petronelli's gym, you know, as I 170 00:11:20,100 --> 00:11:21,780 say, they were training some of the best fighters. 171 00:11:21,860 --> 00:11:23,380 They were giving him the education. 172 00:11:23,460 --> 00:11:25,020 And I looked at my brother Stephen, and I was in awe, 173 00:11:25,100 --> 00:11:27,700 I actually was like, is that my brother? 174 00:11:27,780 --> 00:11:30,020 He looked to me like somebody I'd watch on TV. 175 00:11:32,100 --> 00:11:34,740 I was a sports writer for the Sunday Tribune at the time. 176 00:11:34,820 --> 00:11:38,660 I'd covered his career when he was in America, there were probably five 177 00:11:38,740 --> 00:11:42,620 reporters covering boxing for the Irish newspapers at the time, and 178 00:11:42,700 --> 00:11:46,060 it's not like today, where you're sort of kept remote from the 179 00:11:46,140 --> 00:11:48,580 fighters or from any sportsperson that you're covering. 180 00:11:48,660 --> 00:11:50,580 So we got to know each other quite well. 181 00:11:50,660 --> 00:11:54,260 When I went to cover the fight in New Jersey, I was staying with some 182 00:11:54,340 --> 00:11:59,180 friends in New York, just sleeping on the floor, and kind of two days 183 00:11:59,260 --> 00:12:03,380 before the fight, Steve rang to say, I've got you a deal in the hotel, 184 00:12:03,460 --> 00:12:05,620 which was the Meadowlands Hilton in New Jersey. 185 00:12:05,700 --> 00:12:08,980 And I was broke, I was a freelance journalist at the time, so it was a 186 00:12:09,060 --> 00:12:11,260 really decent thing to do, especially that's, you know, 187 00:12:11,340 --> 00:12:12,980 so close to the fight. 188 00:12:13,060 --> 00:12:16,460 So we, you know, we'd become good friends at that stage. 189 00:12:39,580 --> 00:12:42,100 I had the mindset that this can happen. 190 00:12:42,180 --> 00:12:44,100 All I ever needed was two weeks notice. 191 00:12:44,180 --> 00:12:46,220 You know, if someone came to me and said, you know, in a week, two weeks 192 00:12:46,300 --> 00:12:49,420 time, there's an opening there, you know, for Collins, if he wants to 193 00:12:49,500 --> 00:12:51,660 take it, I was always ready. 194 00:12:52,460 --> 00:12:56,540 I got a phone call to say that Michael Watson had broken his nose in 195 00:12:56,620 --> 00:12:59,500 preparation for a fight against Mike McCallum. 196 00:12:59,580 --> 00:13:03,780 They needed someone to stand in as substitute, will I take it? 197 00:13:03,860 --> 00:13:06,020 And of course, I jumped at the opportunity. 198 00:13:06,100 --> 00:13:09,340 The chance to fight for the world title against a great fighter was 199 00:13:09,420 --> 00:13:11,460 something that every young fighter dreamed of. 200 00:13:14,100 --> 00:13:18,060 This is Animo Terrace in Cabra, where my father grew up and where I grew 201 00:13:18,140 --> 00:13:21,340 up, as far as I'm concerned, this is where the next middleweight champion 202 00:13:21,420 --> 00:13:26,940 of the world is coming from, which I believe is going to be me, Stephen Collins. 203 00:13:27,020 --> 00:13:30,260 On February the 4th, this place is going to be a lit up with lights, and 204 00:13:30,340 --> 00:13:32,500 there's going to be flags and bunting out, and everybody's going to 205 00:13:32,580 --> 00:13:34,220 celebrate my victory. 206 00:13:34,300 --> 00:13:37,460 I'm sorry about that Michael McCallum, that's it. 207 00:13:38,580 --> 00:13:42,140 At the time, Steve, I think was like a novice. 208 00:13:42,220 --> 00:13:47,580 Mike McCallum, I think was 33, 34 fights, you know, probably 30 knockouts. 209 00:13:47,660 --> 00:13:51,020 Everybody thought it was a huge jump, a huge step. 210 00:13:52,180 --> 00:13:56,060 I reckon I learned more in the one fight with him than I probably had in 211 00:13:56,140 --> 00:13:58,380 my five previous fights. 212 00:13:58,460 --> 00:14:00,740 He put together combinations. 213 00:14:00,820 --> 00:14:04,180 I felt like standing back and saying, show us that again. 214 00:14:04,260 --> 00:14:06,860 That was just, you know, he took me to school. 215 00:14:06,940 --> 00:14:08,900 The Mike McCallum fight was really interesting. 216 00:14:08,980 --> 00:14:11,700 I mean, Steve lost a unanimous decision, but that was the fight 217 00:14:11,780 --> 00:14:16,260 that really put him into the, what they call the "who needs him" category. 218 00:14:16,340 --> 00:14:19,820 You know, there's no real sort of commercial advantage in fighting 219 00:14:19,900 --> 00:14:22,140 them, like you won't make millions from them, because they're not 220 00:14:22,220 --> 00:14:26,660 personalities, and at the same time, there's a chance that you might lose to them. 221 00:14:31,940 --> 00:14:37,220 In Britain, you had Nigel Benn, Chris Eubank, Michael Watson, on 222 00:14:37,300 --> 00:14:40,380 prime time television every Saturday night, practically. 223 00:14:40,460 --> 00:14:43,580 But Steve was in America, not making a huge amount of money. 224 00:14:47,140 --> 00:14:50,900 Nigel Benn rewrote British middleweight boxing in America, 225 00:14:50,980 --> 00:14:53,820 because this guy came over and smashed and beat up the best 226 00:14:53,900 --> 00:14:57,140 middleweights they had in America and took all the titles. 227 00:14:57,220 --> 00:15:01,180 And went back to London, Chris Eubank then, who beat Nigel Benn. 228 00:15:01,260 --> 00:15:05,020 He became the big name, and I was, I was just left out on my own, 229 00:15:05,100 --> 00:15:09,620 so I had to move from America and return back to Europe and start all 230 00:15:09,700 --> 00:15:14,380 over again and try and break into the scene over here, which I knew was 231 00:15:14,460 --> 00:15:17,260 going to be hard, but it was a lot harder than I expected. 232 00:15:20,740 --> 00:15:24,660 When I approached managers and promoters in the UK, they had no 233 00:15:24,740 --> 00:15:28,980 hesitation signing me up, so they could prevent me or let me fight 234 00:15:29,060 --> 00:15:32,700 their fighters, I was under their control, so they now owned the danger man. 235 00:15:32,780 --> 00:15:34,820 So it was always going to be hard for me. 236 00:15:34,900 --> 00:15:39,100 I was with Barry Hearn in the early 90s, and I was number one contender 237 00:15:39,180 --> 00:15:42,460 for the middleweight title, WBO middleweight, and the current 238 00:15:42,540 --> 00:15:46,460 champion was a guy called Chris Pyatt, but we were both managed and 239 00:15:46,540 --> 00:15:49,860 promoted by the same company, and he was never going to fight me because 240 00:15:49,940 --> 00:15:53,580 his manager was my manager, and it wasn't allowed to happen until one 241 00:15:53,660 --> 00:15:57,260 day Chris Pyatt jumped ship and went to Frank Warren. 242 00:15:57,340 --> 00:16:00,220 Barry Hearn came straight to me and said, that fight's gonna happen. 243 00:16:04,020 --> 00:16:07,140 This fight against Chris Pyatt, he was offered it, he took it. 244 00:16:07,220 --> 00:16:11,940 He beat Chris Pyatt, and still there weren't, you know, there were no 245 00:16:12,020 --> 00:16:15,900 million dollar fights being offered to him afterwards. 246 00:16:15,980 --> 00:16:18,380 So he did, I think he did have a sense at that point of his career 247 00:16:18,460 --> 00:16:21,140 that he was a journeyman, despite being a world champion. 248 00:16:21,780 --> 00:16:23,460 He hadn't made a lot of money. 249 00:16:23,540 --> 00:16:26,780 I remember he was trying to build a house at the time in Dublin, and, 250 00:16:26,860 --> 00:16:33,100 you know, was actively talking about how he needed purses to build this house. 251 00:16:33,900 --> 00:16:36,820 He'd had two world title fights, and he was still living in a rented 252 00:16:36,900 --> 00:16:38,380 house in Swords. 253 00:16:39,940 --> 00:16:46,540 He phoned me sometime in the summer of 1994 and he'd had this idea that 254 00:16:46,620 --> 00:16:50,060 he wanted to write a book, and he asked me, would I help him with it? 255 00:16:53,060 --> 00:16:55,100 He had a couple of fights arranged. 256 00:16:55,180 --> 00:16:59,140 He was going to fight an American called Lonnie Beasley, and the fight 257 00:16:59,220 --> 00:17:01,380 was supposed to happen in Hong Kong. 258 00:17:02,140 --> 00:17:05,860 And these are the early chapters of the book, and they're all about 259 00:17:05,940 --> 00:17:07,540 Steve's preparation for the fight. 260 00:17:07,620 --> 00:17:09,580 So I spent quite a lot of time with him. 261 00:17:09,660 --> 00:17:12,700 And then, you know, 24 hours, 48 hours before the fight we're 262 00:17:12,780 --> 00:17:15,180 suddenly told the fight's off. 263 00:17:17,740 --> 00:17:22,980 Steve's fight then was rescheduled for Boston, seven weeks later. 264 00:17:23,060 --> 00:17:28,100 As the fight got closer, there was a kind of nervousness about Steve, and 265 00:17:28,180 --> 00:17:31,660 it turned out that one of the Petronelli brothers with whom he had 266 00:17:31,740 --> 00:17:36,220 a historical contractual dispute, was going to court to try to seize 267 00:17:36,300 --> 00:17:41,500 his purse from the fight, and suddenly there's this doubt about 268 00:17:41,580 --> 00:17:43,540 whether the fight would go ahead. 269 00:17:43,620 --> 00:17:48,020 The day before the weigh in, I just, I lost all my strength. 270 00:17:48,100 --> 00:17:49,540 I couldn't get out of bed. 271 00:17:49,620 --> 00:17:52,780 I just became very lethargic, and they had to call for a doctor, and 272 00:17:52,860 --> 00:17:55,580 the doctor said, under no circumstances was he gonna allow this 273 00:17:55,660 --> 00:17:57,300 fight to go ahead. 274 00:17:57,380 --> 00:18:00,300 At that time then I just thought, you know, my boxing career was over. 275 00:18:00,380 --> 00:18:03,660 I returned home after that, on a real downer. 276 00:18:05,260 --> 00:18:08,420 I was despairing, I thought there's no book here, you know, because 277 00:18:08,500 --> 00:18:12,340 there's no story, like you can't write a boxing book in which there's no boxing. 278 00:18:12,420 --> 00:18:15,100 This is a year in a boxer's life, and you're just talking about press 279 00:18:15,180 --> 00:18:19,940 conferences and contracts and illness and medical certs. 280 00:18:22,300 --> 00:18:24,260 He rang me in January. 281 00:18:24,340 --> 00:18:28,140 It was a Friday night in January, and he said, how's the book going? 282 00:18:28,220 --> 00:18:33,700 And I said, well, I don't, I just don't think there is a book at the moment. 283 00:18:33,780 --> 00:18:36,820 And he said, right, well, how's about this for a book, I'm fighting 284 00:18:36,900 --> 00:18:38,380 Chris Eubank. 285 00:18:51,900 --> 00:18:56,220 The whole idea behind the tour is to take Eubank all over the country, 286 00:18:56,300 --> 00:18:58,820 United Kingdom, Europe, wherever. 287 00:18:58,900 --> 00:19:02,420 And it made sense because of obviously Steve, to do the fight in 288 00:19:02,500 --> 00:19:03,980 Ireland, but where? 289 00:19:06,620 --> 00:19:09,780 This is where it's all happening, behind us here the magnificent Green 290 00:19:09,860 --> 00:19:13,860 Glens complex, Millstreet, County Cork, the venue for the Eurovision 291 00:19:13,940 --> 00:19:16,260 Song Contest 1993. 292 00:19:16,340 --> 00:19:19,420 Welcome friends to Memories of Millstreet. 293 00:19:20,380 --> 00:19:24,060 You know, it was a time when things were very down in Ireland, and the 294 00:19:24,140 --> 00:19:28,260 European community was a big thing, and everybody was talking about the 295 00:19:28,340 --> 00:19:30,020 money that was coming. 296 00:19:30,100 --> 00:19:34,420 And I, from reading the papers, came to the conclusion that all the money 297 00:19:34,500 --> 00:19:36,820 that was coming into Ireland was going to Dublin. 298 00:19:37,740 --> 00:19:43,580 And I said, hey guys, why can't we get some of that out into the rural Ireland? 299 00:19:44,340 --> 00:19:48,020 One night, we were sitting around the fire, watching television from 300 00:19:48,100 --> 00:19:52,820 Sweden, and I took a little, small brown envelope off the mantelpiece, 301 00:19:52,900 --> 00:19:57,260 and I wrote, now that the Irish have won the Eurovision, I presume it 302 00:19:57,340 --> 00:20:00,940 will be in Ireland next year, and I have this place. 303 00:20:01,020 --> 00:20:04,860 And I said, if you consider it, you will have it free of charge. 304 00:20:04,940 --> 00:20:08,460 I didn't hear from them for ages, but eventually they did come. 305 00:20:08,540 --> 00:20:12,340 And when they looked at it, they, according to their own language that 306 00:20:12,420 --> 00:20:14,540 was said, they were gobsmacked. 307 00:20:14,620 --> 00:20:18,780 And then they started planning to how it could happen, take it out of 308 00:20:18,860 --> 00:20:22,060 Dublin and bring it out in the country, 20 miles from the nearest 309 00:20:22,140 --> 00:20:25,460 traffic light on that side, and 20 miles from the other side. 310 00:20:30,540 --> 00:20:34,940 # There lives a great man here among us, 311 00:20:35,860 --> 00:20:41,140 # Green Glens is a sight you must see 312 00:20:41,220 --> 00:20:45,780 # He has done many great things for Millstreet 313 00:20:46,660 --> 00:20:52,140 # You all know the famous Noel C. 314 00:20:52,220 --> 00:20:56,660 # Oh Millstreet will always remember 315 00:20:57,660 --> 00:21:02,460 # Those bright, happy days spent with you, 316 00:21:03,140 --> 00:21:07,500 # Admiring your beauty and splendour 317 00:21:08,220 --> 00:21:13,620 # And the few people so true. 318 00:21:14,700 --> 00:21:17,780 There's a lot of television programmes, and there was two 319 00:21:17,860 --> 00:21:23,740 journalists brought on that Marian Finucane Show, they called it the 320 00:21:23,820 --> 00:21:26,780 arsehole of Ireland and all that kind of thing. 321 00:21:26,860 --> 00:21:29,060 And where the hell is Millstreet? 322 00:21:29,140 --> 00:21:31,420 Who is Millstreet and how did this happen? 323 00:21:31,500 --> 00:21:35,460 Is it Millstreet in Cork city, or is it Millstreet somewhere? 324 00:21:35,940 --> 00:21:41,460 # It was our great moment of pride 325 00:21:41,540 --> 00:21:45,500 # Oh Millstreet we'll always remember... 326 00:21:45,580 --> 00:21:49,260 This is an opportunity now to create something new, not just for 327 00:21:49,340 --> 00:21:53,540 Millstreet alone or the Millstreet parish, but for all rural Ireland. 328 00:21:53,620 --> 00:21:57,820 The Collins, Eubank thing came up then, and as soon as I saw that 329 00:21:57,900 --> 00:22:05,060 Barry Hearn was the promoter, I found out his number and did it just direct. 330 00:22:06,300 --> 00:22:09,620 Barry Hearn was back and forth to me when the Eubank fight was announced. 331 00:22:09,700 --> 00:22:11,380 And he came back and he was talking about venues. 332 00:22:11,460 --> 00:22:12,460 They never heard of Millstreet. 333 00:22:12,540 --> 00:22:15,660 And I said, well, Millstreet is where the Eurovision song contest was held. 334 00:22:15,740 --> 00:22:17,100 It's a great venue. 335 00:22:17,180 --> 00:22:19,980 They said to me, we had to switch off the fax machine, because Noel 336 00:22:20,060 --> 00:22:23,820 Duggan just sent us fax after fax and information about the venue, what he 337 00:22:23,900 --> 00:22:27,380 could do, what he could provide, the whole support system he had there, 338 00:22:27,460 --> 00:22:28,860 everything about it. 339 00:22:28,940 --> 00:22:30,940 Well, I remember Noel telling me it's just around the corner from 340 00:22:31,020 --> 00:22:34,260 Cork airport, it was an hour and a half drive from Cork airport! 341 00:22:34,340 --> 00:22:35,940 It wasn't around the corner. 342 00:22:36,020 --> 00:22:38,020 But it didn't really matter, because he was a thoroughly engaging 343 00:22:38,100 --> 00:22:40,220 personality at the time, went like that. 344 00:22:43,220 --> 00:22:45,900 I think they sat back and thought they had some old guy here who didn't 345 00:22:45,980 --> 00:22:48,540 know what was going on and they were the big "I ams", but, you know, 346 00:22:48,620 --> 00:22:51,100 I think to this day, they're still reeling from Noel C. Duggan. 347 00:22:51,180 --> 00:22:54,500 I think he educated them like a way they'd never been educated before. 348 00:22:54,580 --> 00:22:55,900 And I just loved it. 349 00:22:55,980 --> 00:22:58,580 I loved -- I knew what they were getting into when they went over to 350 00:22:58,660 --> 00:23:02,220 him, I thought, do you know what, they don't know who they're dealing with here. 351 00:23:02,300 --> 00:23:03,780 This man's amazing. 352 00:23:05,580 --> 00:23:08,940 I remember him saying to me when I showed him around, but Noel, he 353 00:23:09,020 --> 00:23:13,100 said, where are the chimney pots? Where are the chimney pots? 354 00:23:13,180 --> 00:23:16,100 And I didn't know what he meant by, where are the chimney pots. 355 00:23:16,180 --> 00:23:19,220 And he meant, where are the crowd? Where do the crowds come from? 356 00:23:19,300 --> 00:23:24,020 You know, surely they don't all live around here, like, then I took him 357 00:23:24,100 --> 00:23:27,980 home when we were finished here and he was silent, but I could see that 358 00:23:28,060 --> 00:23:30,060 he was enthused. 359 00:23:31,540 --> 00:23:35,340 Will you come indoors and have a bowl of soup with me and the family? 360 00:23:35,420 --> 00:23:39,300 And I thought, what a nice, what a nice fella. 361 00:23:40,700 --> 00:23:45,300 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 -- I should have counted these fingers, shouldn't I? 362 00:23:45,380 --> 00:23:48,300 But he was smart and he was energetic. 363 00:23:48,380 --> 00:23:51,140 He was a live wire and frankly, we needed him. 364 00:23:52,740 --> 00:23:55,940 Before he left, he shook hands, he said, we'll do it. 365 00:23:57,340 --> 00:23:59,220 That's a big headline. 366 00:23:59,300 --> 00:24:04,620 It says a bowl of soup brings multi millions to a small town. 367 00:24:05,780 --> 00:24:11,460 Having done the Eurovision and the big international shows and some 368 00:24:11,540 --> 00:24:17,340 concerts, very big concerts, I knew that we could manage the handles, you know. 369 00:24:18,340 --> 00:24:22,700 I'd say the only worry that we had was that Collins would get killed. 370 00:24:26,500 --> 00:24:30,500 Press conferences were pretty mundane affairs, maybe somebody 371 00:24:30,580 --> 00:24:33,740 would say a few things and spark off a little bit of a row, and the 372 00:24:33,820 --> 00:24:36,380 journalists would give them a bit of copy. 373 00:24:36,460 --> 00:24:40,180 But there might be only one sort of quote, and everybody has that same quote. 374 00:24:40,260 --> 00:24:43,660 But on this occasion, it was remarkable. 375 00:24:43,740 --> 00:24:48,100 Eubank arrived more or less on time, which was very unusual with him. 376 00:24:48,940 --> 00:24:52,180 I was on my own, but I had my own little game plan, and that was to 377 00:24:52,260 --> 00:24:55,340 undermine him, take him out of his comfort zone. 378 00:24:55,420 --> 00:24:58,580 And the first, the first thing to do was his style. 379 00:24:58,660 --> 00:25:02,020 He was a good dresser, and he was known for it, he was, I mean, best 380 00:25:02,100 --> 00:25:04,260 dressed man in Britain, I think, twice. 381 00:25:04,340 --> 00:25:08,300 So this is all part of him, so I want to match him, but in the Irish style. 382 00:25:08,380 --> 00:25:14,660 So I got the countryman, Irish attire, the jacket, the cap, the whole lot. 383 00:25:14,740 --> 00:25:19,500 And then I contacted a very well known Wolfhound breeding 384 00:25:19,580 --> 00:25:23,860 family, and I asked, could I borrow their Wolfhound? 385 00:25:23,940 --> 00:25:26,020 Which they kindly let me borrow. 386 00:25:26,100 --> 00:25:27,740 They obviously met me around the corner, gave it to me, because 387 00:25:27,820 --> 00:25:29,420 this dog was a beautiful dog, and they weren't just gonna hand me a 388 00:25:29,500 --> 00:25:30,820 Wolfhound, you know. 389 00:25:30,900 --> 00:25:34,820 They met me around the corner and then I'd bought this old mark II Jag 390 00:25:34,900 --> 00:25:38,100 an old green Jaguar, which was a perfect car, I says right, this is it. 391 00:25:38,180 --> 00:25:42,700 I remember Steve arriving dressed like Darby O'Gill. 392 00:25:42,780 --> 00:25:46,660 I mean, it was extraordinary, you know, to see him in the flat cap, 393 00:25:46,740 --> 00:25:50,020 the three piece suit, like thorn proof suit. 394 00:25:50,100 --> 00:25:53,700 I think he had a shillelagh and this Irish Wolfhound. 395 00:25:53,780 --> 00:25:56,620 I don't know where he got the Irish Wolf -- it wasn't his, like, you 396 00:25:56,700 --> 00:26:01,220 know, but he had an Irish Wolfhound, and he got out of this green Jaguar. 397 00:26:02,500 --> 00:26:05,900 And I couldn't believe it when I saw him coming, like, I didn't recognise 398 00:26:05,980 --> 00:26:07,580 him at first, you know. 399 00:26:07,660 --> 00:26:10,860 And he walks into the hotel, I knew something was going on, like, you 400 00:26:10,940 --> 00:26:14,260 know, whatever this was, it was part of a plan. 401 00:26:15,420 --> 00:26:17,820 You know, no one got underneath my skin. 402 00:26:18,820 --> 00:26:21,380 You know, I was always kind of objective. 403 00:26:22,100 --> 00:26:23,580 But he did a very good job. 404 00:26:23,660 --> 00:26:26,140 You see, he turned up, remember I'm champion of the world. 405 00:26:27,860 --> 00:26:30,740 So he turns up 45 minutes late. 406 00:26:35,100 --> 00:26:39,100 He comes dressed as an Irish countryman. 407 00:26:39,180 --> 00:26:43,500 He then proceeds to speak only in Irish. 408 00:26:51,340 --> 00:26:52,780 Excellent tactics. 409 00:26:52,860 --> 00:26:56,220 Tá míle fáilte roimh go léir anseo inniú. 410 00:26:56,300 --> 00:26:59,300 ar an lá mór seo in mo shaol. 411 00:26:59,380 --> 00:27:04,220 Agus deirim libh anois, go mbeidh and bua agam ar Cristóir Mac Eubanc... 412 00:27:04,300 --> 00:27:06,380 (Laughter) 413 00:27:06,460 --> 00:27:08,980 ...an mhí Márta, go raibh míle maith agat. 414 00:27:09,060 --> 00:27:12,100 Steve was very clever, and he would think of ways to get under an 415 00:27:12,180 --> 00:27:15,140 opponent's skin before, before a fight, 416 00:27:15,220 --> 00:27:20,260 but I had no idea what hell was about to be unleashed. 417 00:27:20,940 --> 00:27:24,220 It started to go off the rails when he said, I deserve this. 418 00:27:24,300 --> 00:27:29,020 And Chris said, talk to me about deserve, what is deserve? 419 00:27:29,100 --> 00:27:32,740 There are starving children in Africa, do they deserve that? 420 00:27:32,820 --> 00:27:39,780 Then he says to me, he said something to me, which, which, which caught me. 421 00:27:40,620 --> 00:27:45,860 He said to me, everyone, everyone admires you. 422 00:27:46,980 --> 00:27:50,220 You know, the quintessential English gentleman. 423 00:27:51,980 --> 00:27:54,340 That's fantastic, that's great, he says. 424 00:27:56,340 --> 00:27:58,460 I'm listening, where's he going with this? 425 00:27:59,540 --> 00:28:01,980 We're talking about boxing, right, if you want to bring Africa 426 00:28:02,060 --> 00:28:06,180 into it right, you are an African, Anglo-African, or African descent, right? 427 00:28:06,260 --> 00:28:09,060 Why do you deny your African heritage and try to impersonate or behave like 428 00:28:09,140 --> 00:28:10,460 in Englishman, when you're not? 429 00:28:10,540 --> 00:28:13,380 He's asking a question, hey, well, what about this? 430 00:28:13,460 --> 00:28:16,900 You're not really an Englishman, you're an African. 431 00:28:18,620 --> 00:28:21,020 Chris got really, really angry. 432 00:28:22,780 --> 00:28:26,300 Usually, he's so mentally tough, or was in those days that, you know, he 433 00:28:26,380 --> 00:28:28,860 wouldn't be cowed by something like that. 434 00:28:28,940 --> 00:28:32,540 You know, he would shake it off, or he would be the aggressor in those, 435 00:28:32,620 --> 00:28:36,540 you know, kind of intellectual back and forths, but 436 00:28:36,620 --> 00:28:38,220 he was really, really shaken. 437 00:28:38,300 --> 00:28:42,020 And I remember the Lord Mayor went up to him afterwards and said, Would 438 00:28:42,100 --> 00:28:44,180 you like a tour around the city? 439 00:28:44,260 --> 00:28:48,700 And Chris said, Fuck this city! At the top of his voice. 440 00:28:49,540 --> 00:28:51,980 He really, really had lost it. 441 00:29:14,620 --> 00:29:19,940 No, you crossed the line that works, this is war. 442 00:29:26,900 --> 00:29:28,900 I wanted to fight Chris Eubank because I didn't really like him, 443 00:29:28,980 --> 00:29:31,220 I found him kind of disrespectful. 444 00:29:31,300 --> 00:29:34,660 I just felt I wanted to teach him something, you know, teach him manners. 445 00:29:35,780 --> 00:29:37,220 I'm there to take your title. 446 00:29:37,300 --> 00:29:38,860 I'm there to end your career. 447 00:29:38,940 --> 00:29:41,260 I mean, you're loving this, you're loving this whole, this whole show, 448 00:29:41,340 --> 00:29:43,460 your lifestyle, you love this. 449 00:29:43,540 --> 00:29:46,020 I'm taking it -- I'm here, I'm going to take this away from you. 450 00:29:46,100 --> 00:29:48,940 I'm taking this from you, and I'm going to live this lifestyle now, 451 00:29:49,020 --> 00:29:50,500 and it's over for you. 452 00:29:50,580 --> 00:29:54,980 I wasn't the big name, I wasn't the golden goose, and it didn't make 453 00:29:55,060 --> 00:29:57,460 sense or business for me to win this fight. 454 00:29:57,540 --> 00:30:01,260 So I believed then that my opponent for this match wasn't just Chris 455 00:30:01,340 --> 00:30:04,060 Eubank, it was the whole organisation. 456 00:30:08,060 --> 00:30:09,980 My trainer was Freddie King. 457 00:30:10,060 --> 00:30:12,380 Who was part of the Matchroom Company. 458 00:30:12,460 --> 00:30:16,740 He had a stable of fighters, and one of his fighters was Herbie Hyde, and 459 00:30:16,820 --> 00:30:20,500 he had a big title fight in Las Vegas. 460 00:30:20,580 --> 00:30:25,060 So I'm on my own, I've no coach, and I'm fighting Chris Eubank. 461 00:30:25,140 --> 00:30:29,380 And I just thought, you know, it's, it's obvious, I'm not that 462 00:30:29,460 --> 00:30:32,700 concerned, I now have to look after myself. 463 00:30:33,460 --> 00:30:39,140 So I booked my own flights out to Vegas to be with my trainer and coach. 464 00:30:39,220 --> 00:30:43,060 But when I got out there, he wasn't there, so I was like a gypsy. 465 00:30:43,140 --> 00:30:45,060 I had to find a gym. 466 00:30:45,140 --> 00:30:48,100 I had to find a guy to coach me, who wasn't my coach. 467 00:30:48,180 --> 00:30:50,340 This is preparation for the Chris Eubank title fight?! 468 00:30:50,420 --> 00:30:52,740 So I knew, I knew what the script was. 469 00:30:58,660 --> 00:31:02,180 I do recall being out there having this room booked in the MGM hotel. 470 00:31:02,260 --> 00:31:05,660 I booked myself a room in the MGM hotel, and I'm trying to make weight 471 00:31:05,740 --> 00:31:08,260 for this fight, even though it was super middleweight, not middleweight, 472 00:31:08,340 --> 00:31:10,580 I still had to cut weight to make weight. 473 00:31:10,660 --> 00:31:14,140 And I remember coming from my room every day with my training gear to go 474 00:31:14,220 --> 00:31:17,660 to the gym and I used to walk through the food hall to get out, I had to 475 00:31:17,740 --> 00:31:21,340 walk through smelling this food every day and I was starving, and I was on 476 00:31:21,420 --> 00:31:25,740 my way to the gym to slog hard, work hard, and the heat was, it was 477 00:31:25,820 --> 00:31:29,940 unbelievable, it was Vegas, and I hadn't got -- I had no money, and I 478 00:31:30,020 --> 00:31:34,060 borrowed a bicycle off one of the coaches out there. 479 00:31:34,140 --> 00:31:38,780 He loaned me his daughter's little yellow racing bike. 480 00:31:38,860 --> 00:31:42,740 So I pick up a little bike from around the side, I used to hide it 481 00:31:42,820 --> 00:31:44,980 around the back of the hotel, the MGM hotel. 482 00:31:45,060 --> 00:31:47,620 My little training bag on my shoulder, and I get on this little 483 00:31:47,700 --> 00:31:50,780 bike and I was cycling through the traffic on the big motorways 484 00:31:50,860 --> 00:31:55,700 through Vegas to get to the Top Rank gym, and I had my workout, and then 485 00:31:55,780 --> 00:31:59,700 I'd get on my little bike and I'd cycle back, you know. 486 00:32:00,620 --> 00:32:02,380 It just wasn't, it wasn't the way things should happen, 487 00:32:02,460 --> 00:32:04,220 it's not how someone should prepare for a world title. 488 00:32:04,300 --> 00:32:07,940 But it just told me what was really going on, and it made me even more 489 00:32:08,020 --> 00:32:11,980 determined to succeed, and it made me really want this more to prove that 490 00:32:12,060 --> 00:32:15,500 I'm not just going to beat this fighter, I'm going to beat the whole system. 491 00:32:17,860 --> 00:32:23,500 I was working as always, exclusively in my own mind, and that's how you win. 492 00:32:23,580 --> 00:32:25,820 You don't think about your opponent, you think about what you are going 493 00:32:25,900 --> 00:32:27,820 to do and who you are. 494 00:32:29,820 --> 00:32:34,540 There is a psychological battle going on and winning that can be the fight. 495 00:32:34,620 --> 00:32:40,300 I look at what people thought of me at the time, and I remember always 496 00:32:40,380 --> 00:32:42,660 trying to explain I'm just a man. 497 00:32:44,700 --> 00:32:49,020 I always thought myself to be a grasshopper. 498 00:32:50,780 --> 00:32:52,980 That's the way in which I stay champion. 499 00:32:53,060 --> 00:32:57,660 I always doubted myself, so I never took my foot off the pedal. 500 00:32:58,300 --> 00:33:01,020 I trained meticulously. 501 00:33:01,100 --> 00:33:03,300 I had the right mindset. 502 00:33:04,140 --> 00:33:08,060 I trained and managed him to start with, we used to train in a gym on 503 00:33:08,140 --> 00:33:12,980 about eight boxers, ten boxers, when was it, '87, 1987. 504 00:33:13,060 --> 00:33:15,900 And I come in the gym, and he was training there with his brothers, 505 00:33:15,980 --> 00:33:18,940 and I went, kid's good, beautifully balanced. 506 00:33:19,020 --> 00:33:20,860 And that's where I met him. 507 00:33:20,940 --> 00:33:24,140 He moved really smoothly, fast hands, he could hit. 508 00:33:24,220 --> 00:33:26,380 Yeah, he had everything about him. 509 00:33:26,460 --> 00:33:28,660 But you could say, that kid's gonna be good. 510 00:33:29,140 --> 00:33:31,700 He was winning, beating everyone up, and I couldn't get him fights 511 00:33:31,780 --> 00:33:34,820 because he was that good, and all avoiding him. 512 00:33:34,900 --> 00:33:38,340 So I had a meeting with Barry Hearn, and we went on from there. 513 00:33:40,020 --> 00:33:42,300 And we met at the Grosvenor House Hotel in Sheffield. 514 00:33:42,380 --> 00:33:46,420 I sat there waiting, suited and booted as you'd expect, and in 515 00:33:46,500 --> 00:33:52,140 wandered this charismatic personality with a certain style. 516 00:33:52,220 --> 00:33:55,820 And he went, my name is Christopher Livingston Eubank. 517 00:33:55,900 --> 00:33:58,020 I'm an athlete, and I know my worth. 518 00:33:58,100 --> 00:34:00,140 That was the first sentence he ever said. 519 00:34:00,220 --> 00:34:02,860 I thought, oh, you got me, mate, you got me. 520 00:34:04,020 --> 00:34:10,460 My father worked at Ford Dagenhams, 90 pounds a week, bringing up four children. 521 00:34:11,460 --> 00:34:13,380 The system crushes people. 522 00:34:13,460 --> 00:34:17,900 It crushed my people, you know, slave trade, the Windrush 523 00:34:17,980 --> 00:34:22,700 generation, my parents coming into the United Kingdom in the 1950s, 524 00:34:22,780 --> 00:34:25,380 me being second generation. 525 00:34:26,380 --> 00:34:32,940 And somehow, through the grace that my mother put in me, somehow 526 00:34:33,020 --> 00:34:39,620 I didn't let all that prejudice, jealousy, you know, hate, racism, 527 00:34:39,700 --> 00:34:42,380 I didn't let anything sit on me. 528 00:34:46,100 --> 00:34:49,500 I want to be better prepared than him and take away this mindset he has, 529 00:34:49,580 --> 00:34:52,500 which is very powerful, strong mindset, and he is in control. 530 00:34:52,580 --> 00:34:57,180 I've upset him, but I need to take control of the whole scenario. 531 00:34:57,260 --> 00:34:59,180 I needed to come back with the mind games. 532 00:34:59,260 --> 00:35:02,060 I needed help to understand his mind games and strengthen and prepare 533 00:35:02,140 --> 00:35:03,420 my mind game. 534 00:35:03,500 --> 00:35:06,820 Dr. Tony Quinn has a doctorate in clinical hypnotherapy and 535 00:35:06,900 --> 00:35:10,620 counselling, Master of Science degree in psychotherapy and neuro 536 00:35:10,700 --> 00:35:15,100 linguistic programming, how the mind is programmed for success or failure. 537 00:35:16,740 --> 00:35:20,980 Tony Quinn had a health shop business in Dublin, and he used to 538 00:35:21,060 --> 00:35:25,060 sell these hypnotism tapes, and he would help people stop smoking or 539 00:35:25,140 --> 00:35:27,300 help people to transform their lives. 540 00:35:27,380 --> 00:35:30,420 And then he had this business where he would do seminars. 541 00:35:30,500 --> 00:35:32,900 He would talk to them about changing their lives. 542 00:35:32,980 --> 00:35:35,540 He looked like Jesus Christ, you know, he had a goatee. 543 00:35:35,620 --> 00:35:41,100 He had this huge perm and a little bit of an aura about him as well. 544 00:35:41,180 --> 00:35:43,540 You know, you never saw him, he was kind of reclusive. 545 00:35:43,620 --> 00:35:46,300 You saw his shops everywhere, but you didn't see him often. 546 00:35:46,780 --> 00:35:48,460 It's okay I'm here. 547 00:35:56,940 --> 00:36:01,460 He got in touch with me through my manager, and we arranged, at the 548 00:36:01,540 --> 00:36:05,020 time to meet in the MGM in Vegas. 549 00:36:05,100 --> 00:36:09,140 And I knew nothing about boxing, by the way, I never saw a real boxing 550 00:36:09,220 --> 00:36:13,220 match in my life, till I was involved with Steve. 551 00:36:13,300 --> 00:36:16,260 So I said to him, What can I do for you, Steve? 552 00:36:16,340 --> 00:36:18,580 And he said, anything you can. 553 00:36:21,900 --> 00:36:25,220 I'm sitting there listening to the guy, and I'm thinking, how long is 554 00:36:25,300 --> 00:36:26,940 this fight away? 555 00:36:27,700 --> 00:36:29,740 And I think it was about five weeks. 556 00:36:29,820 --> 00:36:31,500 And I'm thinking, Oh my God. 557 00:36:31,580 --> 00:36:34,340 Then I said, who's your trainer? 558 00:36:34,420 --> 00:36:37,180 And he said, I don't have a trainer at all. 559 00:36:37,820 --> 00:36:43,100 And I said, stupidly, I thought all boxers had trainers. 560 00:36:43,180 --> 00:36:48,060 So Steve said to me, well, Tony, I guess you're going to be the trainer. 561 00:36:48,140 --> 00:36:50,300 And I go, whoa. 562 00:36:50,380 --> 00:36:52,980 I never even saw a boxing match, Steve. 563 00:36:53,820 --> 00:36:57,820 I was at a loss as to how I was going to train him straight away. 564 00:36:57,900 --> 00:37:01,300 And then I said something really stupid that he thought was really stupid. 565 00:37:01,380 --> 00:37:04,940 I said, is there any boxing gyms in Las Vegas? 566 00:37:05,020 --> 00:37:09,980 So Steve says to me, it's the home of boxing, of course there are! 567 00:37:10,060 --> 00:37:14,540 So I said, tomorrow, let's go down now and we'll pick out three 568 00:37:14,620 --> 00:37:17,620 opponents, and we'll see how you do against them. 569 00:37:17,700 --> 00:37:23,300 And frankly, he did so badly, I said, you know, Steve, I think I'd 570 00:37:23,380 --> 00:37:25,500 do better than that myself. 571 00:37:25,580 --> 00:37:29,740 And he was so annoyed, he was practically telling me to go home at 572 00:37:29,820 --> 00:37:34,500 that point, where I'm saying, Jesus, Steve, we don't have time for this. 573 00:37:34,580 --> 00:37:36,020 We've only got five weeks. 574 00:37:36,100 --> 00:37:37,780 We need to get on with it. 575 00:37:37,860 --> 00:37:41,980 Okay, this is combination number two, and that's a driving straight 576 00:37:42,060 --> 00:37:45,420 left to the head, stepping in. 577 00:37:45,500 --> 00:37:48,860 Then we have a straight right to solar plexus, left hook to head, 578 00:37:48,940 --> 00:37:50,980 right hook to head. 579 00:37:57,860 --> 00:38:00,540 Tell me when you're okay Mary and then start rolling a little. 580 00:38:00,620 --> 00:38:02,420 Yeah, it's rolling now. 581 00:38:04,540 --> 00:38:06,180 Action. 582 00:38:07,380 --> 00:38:12,380 Tony Quinn was a master of martial arts, and I love Bruce Lee. 583 00:38:13,060 --> 00:38:14,420 You know, I love Bruce Lee. 584 00:38:14,500 --> 00:38:17,060 And he's talking Bruce Lee and the one inch punch. 585 00:38:17,140 --> 00:38:19,300 And he said, I'll teach you the one inch punch. 586 00:38:19,380 --> 00:38:21,660 So we used to practice the one inch punch over and over again. 587 00:38:21,740 --> 00:38:26,380 I used to practice it all the time for Eubank, and I planned this whole, 588 00:38:26,460 --> 00:38:29,300 this was a combination that Freddie King told me, which was a jab to the 589 00:38:29,380 --> 00:38:32,060 head, bring his hands up, bend the knees and drive the straight hand 590 00:38:32,140 --> 00:38:33,780 through the chest. 591 00:38:33,860 --> 00:38:35,860 So I wanted to make that straight hand not just a straight hand, 592 00:38:35,940 --> 00:38:38,580 I wanted to make it a one inch punch, so we practiced over and over. 593 00:38:39,900 --> 00:38:44,460 When you have all of your mind going, your mind will generate this 594 00:38:44,540 --> 00:38:47,660 palpable power, like a force. 595 00:38:47,740 --> 00:38:50,060 It's a bit like what you'd see in Star Wars. 596 00:38:50,140 --> 00:38:54,660 So now you're hitting a person with this extra force, and then you 597 00:38:54,740 --> 00:38:56,660 become kind of superhuman. 598 00:38:56,740 --> 00:38:59,300 And that's where I was going with Steve. 599 00:38:59,380 --> 00:39:04,580 I frankly wanted him to be the only boxer ever in history to be able to 600 00:39:04,660 --> 00:39:07,660 punch with this chi. 601 00:39:07,740 --> 00:39:12,340 I mean, that's just a useful word for it, but think of it as life force. 602 00:39:14,260 --> 00:39:16,060 Now, will I start? 603 00:39:17,060 --> 00:39:19,220 Combination number 12. 604 00:39:19,860 --> 00:39:24,060 This is to be delivered when the opponent is up against the ropes 605 00:39:24,140 --> 00:39:27,620 with two hands up, protecting his head. 606 00:39:29,740 --> 00:39:33,820 Step in with forearm block to opponents gloves, 607 00:39:33,900 --> 00:39:37,180 followed by a driving right to the body with the knuckles facing the 608 00:39:37,260 --> 00:39:42,540 ground, immediately followed by right uppercut to chin. 609 00:39:44,100 --> 00:39:49,140 So we did no aerobics whatsoever, no running, no road work, no skipping, 610 00:39:49,220 --> 00:39:51,780 nothing resembling aerobics. 611 00:39:51,860 --> 00:39:58,180 And the reason being this, you see, for example, Chris Eubank ran for an 612 00:39:58,260 --> 00:39:59,900 hour a day. 613 00:39:59,980 --> 00:40:04,460 So I'm thinking, is he training to be a runner or a boxer? 614 00:40:04,540 --> 00:40:08,540 In boxing, you need to be able to fight for three minutes all out. 615 00:40:09,660 --> 00:40:12,580 And then, as far as I remember, you rested for a minute. 616 00:40:12,660 --> 00:40:17,140 So why on Earth are you trying to run for an hour? 617 00:40:17,780 --> 00:40:19,700 That doesn't make sense to me. 618 00:40:19,780 --> 00:40:25,340 So all I did was train Steve to make maximum effort for three minutes at a time. 619 00:40:25,420 --> 00:40:26,900 That's all I did. 620 00:40:26,980 --> 00:40:28,540 It was easy. 621 00:40:38,980 --> 00:40:40,860 Second one felt better. 622 00:40:40,940 --> 00:40:43,860 Steve's demeanour, you could just see there was something different about him. 623 00:40:43,940 --> 00:40:46,260 It was, it was, his focus was totally different. 624 00:40:46,340 --> 00:40:48,620 I could see it because I'd spent so many times with Steve before each 625 00:40:48,700 --> 00:40:54,380 fight, and there was something, you just knew, you just knew he was ready. 626 00:40:55,140 --> 00:40:56,780 Do it again. 627 00:41:00,900 --> 00:41:04,060 That one is good too, if you do it like that, put your two hands 628 00:41:04,140 --> 00:41:08,820 together, push together hard and pulling down on your abs. 629 00:41:10,780 --> 00:41:12,980 When he came back he was just a different person. 630 00:41:13,060 --> 00:41:15,180 He had this kind of brashness about him. 631 00:41:15,260 --> 00:41:17,780 He was always confident, but this was something different. 632 00:41:17,860 --> 00:41:21,140 He'd completely rebranded himself, you know, the previous year, as the 633 00:41:21,220 --> 00:41:23,060 Celtic Warrior. 634 00:41:23,140 --> 00:41:25,620 And I think, I think that was all a marketing thing. 635 00:41:25,700 --> 00:41:29,620 But when he went away, he kind of grew into that, that persona, and 636 00:41:29,700 --> 00:41:32,660 then the stories, you know, I remember Steve told me on the phone 637 00:41:32,740 --> 00:41:38,500 one night that, you know, Tony Quinn had trained him, 638 00:41:38,580 --> 00:41:44,980 had mentally conditioned him, that when he heard Chris Eubank's voice, 639 00:41:45,060 --> 00:41:46,940 he would hear Donald Duck. 640 00:41:47,740 --> 00:41:53,020 And I mean, I thought this stuff was just nonsense, like I thought it 641 00:41:53,100 --> 00:41:54,540 was madness. 642 00:41:54,620 --> 00:41:59,100 I mean, Steve was a great boxer, he didn't need any of this stuff. 643 00:42:00,020 --> 00:42:05,220 But then, I suppose, the sort of sinister twist to this was that he 644 00:42:05,300 --> 00:42:09,460 started saying that Tony Quinn had trained him not to feel pain. 645 00:42:13,460 --> 00:42:21,060 MARCHING BAND MUSIC 646 00:42:21,140 --> 00:42:23,620 Well, we did go to some strange places. 647 00:42:24,620 --> 00:42:29,220 Bruno fought at Shepton Mallet in an agricultural tent. 648 00:42:29,300 --> 00:42:33,140 We had fights at the Scottish Showgrounds in Edinburgh. 649 00:42:33,220 --> 00:42:40,940 It wasn't entirely off the radar, but rural Ireland for most people, was new. 650 00:42:45,580 --> 00:42:49,220 There's just a magic and something about Millstreet, you arrive there 651 00:42:49,300 --> 00:42:54,340 and you smell the air, you smell the countryside, the grass, everything 652 00:42:54,420 --> 00:42:57,100 about it, there was a smell, an atmosphere down there. 653 00:42:57,180 --> 00:43:02,460 When I arrived there, I just said, like, I'm the Celtic Warrior 654 00:43:02,540 --> 00:43:04,580 and I'm coming home. 655 00:43:09,060 --> 00:43:14,460 I have an opportunity here to be a superhero, to go to my opponent's 656 00:43:14,540 --> 00:43:20,500 backyard, when I'm champion, on St Patrick's Day weekend. 657 00:43:20,580 --> 00:43:22,340 Oh, look at me! 658 00:43:22,420 --> 00:43:27,140 SIRENS 659 00:43:27,220 --> 00:43:29,500 Oh huge excitement in Millstreet. 660 00:43:29,580 --> 00:43:32,180 There was huge excitement in Ireland generally, because this was Steve 661 00:43:32,260 --> 00:43:37,940 Collins, and since Barry McGuigan there'd really been no major world 662 00:43:38,020 --> 00:43:40,740 level professional boxer from Ireland. 663 00:43:40,820 --> 00:43:43,860 It was a technical nightmare, I have to say, as well, because there were 664 00:43:43,940 --> 00:43:49,300 no permanent facilities to broadcast a boxing event in an environment like that. 665 00:43:49,380 --> 00:43:51,100 It was actually very challenging. 666 00:43:52,020 --> 00:43:56,740 Ladies and gentlemen, can I ask you please to welcome into the ring for 667 00:43:56,820 --> 00:44:01,060 the official weigh-in, the reigning WBO middleweight champion of the 668 00:44:01,140 --> 00:44:06,620 world and challenger for this title from Dublin, Steve Collins. 669 00:44:06,700 --> 00:44:08,700 APPLAUSE AND CHEERING 670 00:44:08,780 --> 00:44:12,940 There's never a weigh-in without a story, and the things that 671 00:44:13,020 --> 00:44:17,780 happen at weigh-ins are generally just to try to build the gate, to 672 00:44:17,860 --> 00:44:22,540 sell those last few tickets, to ensure a big walk up audience on the night. 673 00:44:22,620 --> 00:44:24,700 So there's always boxers threatening to pull out. 674 00:44:24,780 --> 00:44:26,380 Barney Eastwood was famous for it. 675 00:44:26,460 --> 00:44:29,020 You know, all of McGuigan's fights, you know, there was always 676 00:44:29,100 --> 00:44:32,860 a row over the gloves, over the nationality of the judges. 677 00:44:32,940 --> 00:44:34,500 You get used to these things. 678 00:44:34,580 --> 00:44:36,620 This was something completely different. 679 00:44:36,700 --> 00:44:41,900 Ladies and gentlemen, we call first to the scales, the challenger, Steve Collins. 680 00:44:41,980 --> 00:44:49,740 CHEERING 681 00:44:58,380 --> 00:45:03,900 Ladies and gentlemen, Steve Collins came in at 11 stone, 13 and three 682 00:45:03,980 --> 00:45:05,820 quarters of a pound. 683 00:45:06,900 --> 00:45:10,740 I just hopped up my tracksuit, they called the weight out, 168 pound. 684 00:45:10,820 --> 00:45:13,780 And Chris Eubank comes out, he strips off to his underwear, and 685 00:45:13,860 --> 00:45:16,980 he's showing his muscles, and his physique and so on, and I thought, 686 00:45:17,060 --> 00:45:18,700 he's never going to change, you know. 687 00:45:18,780 --> 00:45:24,020 Ladies and gentlemen, Chris Eubank has scaled 11 stone, 13 and three 688 00:45:24,100 --> 00:45:27,500 quarters of a pound, the same as Steve Collins. 689 00:45:27,580 --> 00:45:29,740 In the ring I'm fierce. 690 00:45:29,820 --> 00:45:32,820 I have the correct attitude for the job. 691 00:45:33,660 --> 00:45:35,100 I look correct. 692 00:45:35,180 --> 00:45:37,020 I'm not supposed to look like a waiter. 693 00:45:37,100 --> 00:45:40,780 I'm not supposed to look like a, you know, a property developer. 694 00:45:40,860 --> 00:45:42,660 I'm supposed to look like a warrior. 695 00:45:47,260 --> 00:45:49,620 We had a brief press conference there, 696 00:45:49,700 --> 00:45:53,700 and, you know, talking to Chris and talking to me, and I said, and by the 697 00:45:53,780 --> 00:45:56,940 way, I said, I've prepared for this fight in a way that I've never 698 00:45:57,020 --> 00:45:58,540 prepared for a fight before. 699 00:45:58,620 --> 00:46:02,420 I've got my mindset and I'm ready now for anything he throws at me, 700 00:46:02,500 --> 00:46:05,260 physically, mentally, I've never been so well prepared in my life. 701 00:46:05,340 --> 00:46:08,180 As a matter of fact, I introduced the guy who helped me prepare. 702 00:46:08,260 --> 00:46:11,980 The issue has been raised that sometimes the mind tells the body 703 00:46:12,060 --> 00:46:16,500 when to stop, and people are worried that he may go on through the pain 704 00:46:16,580 --> 00:46:20,580 threshold, and it could cause Steve some damage, and people are worried about that. 705 00:46:20,660 --> 00:46:25,140 Well, I think in something like boxing, the mind plays a big part in it. 706 00:46:25,220 --> 00:46:28,460 I mean, a lot of people in situations where they're very 707 00:46:28,540 --> 00:46:32,180 excited may actually feel no pain anyway, many boxers, I don't think, 708 00:46:32,260 --> 00:46:34,180 feel pain till afterwards. 709 00:46:34,260 --> 00:46:37,580 Now it's true, he will feel less pain than he normally would. 710 00:46:37,660 --> 00:46:39,340 I mean, that is definitely true. 711 00:46:39,420 --> 00:46:42,580 He'll also find that he's able to move much easier. 712 00:46:42,660 --> 00:46:46,100 For instance, one of the things we do is that I've slowed down, so when 713 00:46:46,180 --> 00:46:50,220 he sees the punches coming at him, they look about three times slower 714 00:46:50,300 --> 00:46:52,780 than normal, and we've done this in the training sessions, and it's 715 00:46:52,860 --> 00:46:54,300 worked very well. 716 00:46:54,380 --> 00:46:57,420 We've also made the target three times bigger, so it's much easier 717 00:46:57,500 --> 00:46:59,700 for him to be aware of what's happening. 718 00:46:59,780 --> 00:47:02,620 But of course, I've told him at the same time, and this is instilled in 719 00:47:02,700 --> 00:47:06,020 him, that he will be very aware of all dangers. 720 00:47:06,100 --> 00:47:10,140 In fact, he'd be much more aware than normal of any danger there may be to him. 721 00:47:10,220 --> 00:47:12,820 What a load of rubbish! 722 00:47:12,900 --> 00:47:16,820 The only person didn't think it was a load of rubbish was Chris Eubank. 723 00:47:16,900 --> 00:47:19,100 He thought it was black magic. 724 00:47:19,180 --> 00:47:22,860 I'll never forget, I mean, we did the weigh-in, we did the press. 725 00:47:22,940 --> 00:47:25,980 Collins came out with his cock and ball story, 726 00:47:26,060 --> 00:47:28,500 but he looked believable. 727 00:47:29,220 --> 00:47:31,740 The only person in the room that believed him was Chris Eubank. 728 00:47:31,820 --> 00:47:34,540 Went back to the room, Eubank said to me, I'm going home. 729 00:47:34,620 --> 00:47:38,620 The 43 fights I've had in the past, I've always known what I was dealing with. 730 00:47:39,740 --> 00:47:43,100 I don't know what I'm dealing with tonight, I'm fighting someone who's 731 00:47:43,180 --> 00:47:49,460 mechanically orientated, and that is just an unknown area. 732 00:47:49,540 --> 00:47:51,940 It's not fair that I should be put into the situation. 733 00:47:52,020 --> 00:47:56,380 I suppose it was a particularly sensitive time for Eubank, because 734 00:47:56,460 --> 00:48:01,620 this was just three weeks after the Nigel Benn, Gerald McClellan fight. 735 00:48:01,700 --> 00:48:05,380 Gerald McClellan had been left in a coma after the fight. 736 00:48:05,460 --> 00:48:10,380 You know, he was left permanently blind, with restricted mobility, the 737 00:48:10,460 --> 00:48:15,540 kind of brutality of boxing was at the forefront of everybody's minds, 738 00:48:15,620 --> 00:48:18,740 but more so for Chris Eubank, because he'd been through a similar 739 00:48:18,820 --> 00:48:22,100 experience himself four years earlier with Michael Watson. 740 00:48:23,540 --> 00:48:25,940 Eubank's got snagged on the right again and again. 741 00:48:27,980 --> 00:48:29,580 Eubanks is staggering. 742 00:48:30,540 --> 00:48:34,460 Watching for the first 10 rounds, Eubank getting a severe 743 00:48:34,540 --> 00:48:38,340 hiding from Watson, Watson was clearly in front and drops Eubank in 744 00:48:38,420 --> 00:48:42,660 the 11th round, and like it looked like the fight was coming to an end 745 00:48:42,740 --> 00:48:46,220 in Watson's favour, and all of a sudden, he pulls out that uppercut! 746 00:48:46,300 --> 00:48:49,060 10 seconds left to go... And Watson's down! 747 00:48:49,500 --> 00:48:51,340 Watson's down. 748 00:48:51,420 --> 00:48:53,180 The bell's gonna save him. 749 00:48:53,260 --> 00:48:57,820 He went back to the corner, my great friend, Jimmy Tibbs, worked on him, 750 00:48:57,900 --> 00:49:00,340 and he talked to me, he said, Look, I said to him, are you okay? 751 00:49:00,420 --> 00:49:02,060 Are you compos mentis? 752 00:49:02,140 --> 00:49:03,700 And I could see that he was compos mentis. 753 00:49:03,780 --> 00:49:05,620 He was answering the questions. 754 00:49:05,700 --> 00:49:09,180 And then he went back out, but his legs hadn't recovered. 755 00:49:09,260 --> 00:49:10,820 And Eubank just jumped on him. 756 00:49:11,220 --> 00:49:12,940 It's all over. 757 00:49:13,020 --> 00:49:14,980 He has stopped it. 758 00:49:15,340 --> 00:49:16,980 People hit me for a living. 759 00:49:17,060 --> 00:49:18,940 I hit people for a living. 760 00:49:19,020 --> 00:49:21,940 There's nothing personal when I strike you, it's a point. 761 00:49:23,380 --> 00:49:27,100 You know that should give me credit, shouldn't discredit me that I hit 762 00:49:27,180 --> 00:49:29,460 people for a living. 763 00:49:30,060 --> 00:49:33,540 Because I'm looking at it objectively, I score a point. 764 00:49:33,620 --> 00:49:35,140 There is no malice. 765 00:49:35,780 --> 00:49:39,140 So here comes the WBO super middleweight champion, Chris Eubank, 766 00:49:39,220 --> 00:49:41,020 fresh from his win. 767 00:49:43,340 --> 00:49:45,380 It is the main man. 768 00:49:48,380 --> 00:49:52,060 I don't regret anything in my career, other than what happened to 769 00:49:52,140 --> 00:49:53,540 Michael Watson. 770 00:49:53,620 --> 00:49:56,940 Ladies and gentlemen, please, we must clear the ring. 771 00:49:57,020 --> 00:49:59,060 Michael Watson has got to leave the ring. 772 00:49:59,140 --> 00:50:02,020 Will you please now clear the ring and let's have a bit of order and 773 00:50:02,100 --> 00:50:03,940 a bit of sanity, please. 774 00:50:04,180 --> 00:50:09,020 That was a very sad night, and I remember walking out the gates of 775 00:50:09,100 --> 00:50:14,340 the club thinking, yeah, this night will never be forgotten, and 776 00:50:14,420 --> 00:50:16,340 not for good, but for bad. 777 00:50:17,180 --> 00:50:20,100 Michael Watson had been in a coma for a month after and was left with 778 00:50:20,180 --> 00:50:25,300 these life changing injuries from brain damage sustained at the hands 779 00:50:25,380 --> 00:50:26,860 of Chris Eubank. 780 00:50:26,940 --> 00:50:33,300 So you could totally understand why this suddenly worried him. 781 00:50:33,380 --> 00:50:35,700 I think he felt genuine fear then. 782 00:50:36,180 --> 00:50:40,180 I understand getting into a ring with a man who was trained to be 783 00:50:40,260 --> 00:50:42,020 the best he can be. 784 00:50:42,100 --> 00:50:45,860 Under hypnosis, basically, he will be more, mentally. 785 00:50:45,940 --> 00:50:49,620 I mean, and if you talk to anyone in the business, you'll get to 786 00:50:49,700 --> 00:50:53,300 understand that it's 85% mental because it's only endurance. 787 00:51:04,420 --> 00:51:06,140 Yeah, he didn't like that. 788 00:51:06,980 --> 00:51:08,500 He didn't want to go ahead with the fight. 789 00:51:08,580 --> 00:51:11,500 I said, listen, once you whack him or he hits you, mate, all that 790 00:51:11,580 --> 00:51:13,980 hypnotism goes out the window, mate, that's all gone. 791 00:51:15,420 --> 00:51:18,020 I said, Chris, you know, ask yourself a rational question, can 792 00:51:18,100 --> 00:51:20,140 you hypnotize a chin? 793 00:51:20,220 --> 00:51:21,580 The answer is no. 794 00:51:21,660 --> 00:51:24,420 But anyway, Ronnie Davis, Chris Eubank's trainer and me, sat up till 795 00:51:24,500 --> 00:51:28,300 one o'clock in the morning convincing him to take the fight. 796 00:51:28,380 --> 00:51:31,060 There's nothing I can do about it, I'm in that corner. 797 00:51:31,140 --> 00:51:34,900 If I walk away from the fight now, they say, Well, you're a coward. 798 00:51:34,980 --> 00:51:38,540 Well, they say that, you know, you have no more credibility. 799 00:51:39,380 --> 00:51:40,540 I shouldn't do this. 800 00:51:40,620 --> 00:51:42,500 I shouldn't be in that ring tonight, this is wrong. 801 00:51:42,580 --> 00:51:44,180 This is unfair. 802 00:51:44,260 --> 00:51:46,820 That's legal cheating, that's not right. 803 00:51:47,780 --> 00:51:52,140 It was scary, and when you'd see in the paper about the air ambulances, 804 00:51:52,220 --> 00:51:55,180 and how long it took the air ambulances to go from here to the 805 00:51:55,260 --> 00:51:59,580 wherever, if there was a bad accident in the ring, you had all 806 00:51:59,660 --> 00:52:01,580 those kind of worries all right. 807 00:52:01,660 --> 00:52:04,140 It was different to the Eurovision. 808 00:52:04,220 --> 00:52:06,780 The Eurovision was a gentle thing. 809 00:52:07,620 --> 00:52:09,220 The other thing was war. 810 00:52:09,700 --> 00:52:12,100 And a very good evening to you from the Green Glens Arena here in 811 00:52:12,180 --> 00:52:14,500 Millstreet in the deep rural south west of Ireland. 812 00:52:14,580 --> 00:52:16,900 There is a fantastic atmosphere here. 813 00:52:16,980 --> 00:52:21,060 It's already a famous venue in Irish terms, a Eurovision Song Contest 814 00:52:21,140 --> 00:52:24,540 victory here a couple of years ago, but the roof will truly lift off if 815 00:52:24,620 --> 00:52:27,420 sporting history is made here for Ireland and if Steve Collins can 816 00:52:27,500 --> 00:52:30,420 become the WBO world super middleweight champion. 817 00:52:30,500 --> 00:52:33,420 It's all in front of us, and here to share the atmosphere, one of the 818 00:52:33,500 --> 00:52:35,860 finest fighters ever produced in these shores, Barry McGuigan, 819 00:52:35,940 --> 00:52:37,940 we'll hear from Barry in just a moment or two. 820 00:52:39,300 --> 00:52:40,940 It was the hottest ticket in town. 821 00:52:41,020 --> 00:52:42,540 They were sold out in seconds. 822 00:52:42,620 --> 00:52:45,980 And lucky enough, I had a couple of thousand tickets in a little old 823 00:52:46,060 --> 00:52:48,900 rucksack there that were pretty valuable. 824 00:52:48,980 --> 00:52:52,500 So at the time, my brother, Patrick Peters, we'd the Wilton pub 825 00:52:52,580 --> 00:52:54,980 in Bishopstown in Cork, he thought it'd be good idea to sell 826 00:52:55,060 --> 00:52:56,700 some tickets from the pubs. 827 00:52:56,780 --> 00:52:58,460 I said, sure, look, that could be interesting. 828 00:52:58,540 --> 00:53:02,260 So I got him down 250 and he came in early, I think, one morning, and 829 00:53:02,340 --> 00:53:04,260 there was, I think, three or 4,000 people. 830 00:53:04,340 --> 00:53:06,340 It was mental, the queue outside, so I had to get some fella on a 831 00:53:06,420 --> 00:53:09,860 motorbike try to get down with five or 700 tickets pretty quick. 832 00:53:11,860 --> 00:53:15,220 Steve, I know you very well, and I've never seen you as intense as I 833 00:53:15,300 --> 00:53:16,860 have over the past few days. 834 00:53:16,940 --> 00:53:18,700 What do you think is gonna happen? I'm gonna win. 835 00:53:19,340 --> 00:53:20,700 New champ. 836 00:53:29,980 --> 00:53:35,260 Can I ask you to welcome into the arena the reigning WBO middleweight 837 00:53:35,340 --> 00:53:41,860 champion of the world and challenger for the title, from Dublin, Steve Collins. 838 00:53:41,940 --> 00:53:44,220 LOUD ROAR 839 00:53:44,300 --> 00:53:47,940 I was outside the dressing room, and when Freddie King says to me, 840 00:53:48,020 --> 00:53:50,380 Mick, make sure no one sticks their -- pokes their finger in his eye or 841 00:53:50,460 --> 00:53:53,140 slaps him or tries to upset him. 842 00:53:54,820 --> 00:53:57,940 Straight away, the big brother kicked in, and that's all, I just 843 00:53:58,020 --> 00:54:01,020 focused on him, and my job was to make sure that he got up and didn't 844 00:54:01,100 --> 00:54:03,940 trip or anything, and got him in, sat him on his stool. 845 00:54:07,340 --> 00:54:09,260 I remember all the guards there. 846 00:54:09,340 --> 00:54:10,940 That's one of my outstanding memories. 847 00:54:11,020 --> 00:54:14,100 The Gardaí did the official security for the event. 848 00:54:14,180 --> 00:54:16,380 So it's full of guards. 849 00:54:16,460 --> 00:54:18,820 You know, it felt like something really, really serious was 850 00:54:18,900 --> 00:54:23,180 happening, because you'd never see a thousand guards under one roof like that. 851 00:54:23,260 --> 00:54:27,620 There was a huge number of Dublin criminals at the fight as well. 852 00:54:27,700 --> 00:54:31,860 Most of them I recognised from the papers, you know, they all went 853 00:54:31,940 --> 00:54:36,540 to the fight, just criminals and guards rubbing shoulders under the same roof. 854 00:54:39,340 --> 00:54:41,540 I mean, it was like a Roman arena. 855 00:54:41,620 --> 00:54:43,340 It was unbelievable. 856 00:54:43,420 --> 00:54:46,580 I've never, in all -- I worked with my brother for seven years doing 857 00:54:46,660 --> 00:54:50,900 corner man, I've been at lots of shows, and I've never, ever 858 00:54:50,980 --> 00:54:53,220 experienced the intensity. 859 00:54:55,100 --> 00:54:59,020 I had the privilege of leaving him in, and he didn't even know that I 860 00:54:59,100 --> 00:55:01,860 left him into the ring, he was so focused. 861 00:55:01,940 --> 00:55:13,940 LOUD CHEERING 862 00:55:18,380 --> 00:55:20,620 It was nearly a tougher fight to get into the ring with the 863 00:55:20,700 --> 00:55:23,980 people, the way they were in, you know, and once we got into the ring, 864 00:55:24,060 --> 00:55:26,620 I think one of the cameras slightly picked up. 865 00:55:26,700 --> 00:55:29,780 I had a very sizable bet with Barney, you know, I wasn't -- 866 00:55:29,860 --> 00:55:32,940 might be earning a lot of money at the time, but I had my life savings 867 00:55:33,020 --> 00:55:34,500 on him anyway. 868 00:55:36,980 --> 00:55:40,340 Before I sat down, I got them to put the Walkman on, with the earphones 869 00:55:40,420 --> 00:55:44,340 in, to listen to the music, to cut out Chris Eubank. 870 00:55:44,420 --> 00:55:46,900 And I put the hood -- I mean, I even designed my rope, so I could put 871 00:55:46,980 --> 00:55:49,940 the hood up and not look at him, you know, and I put the hood up, I sat 872 00:55:50,020 --> 00:55:53,060 down, I listened to my music, and I switched off. 873 00:55:53,140 --> 00:55:55,580 And then, you know, it all began. 874 00:55:55,660 --> 00:56:10,660 MUSIC PLAYS "MARS, THE BRINGER OF WAR" 875 00:56:15,820 --> 00:56:18,580 In the dressing room, he used to put his blinkers on. 876 00:56:18,660 --> 00:56:23,260 And he'd be focused, no one could speak, and he would take that into the ring. 877 00:56:23,340 --> 00:56:27,620 And he was so strong minded, nothing, nothing phased him. 878 00:56:27,700 --> 00:56:30,140 If anything happened, you know, they could have dropped a bomb in 879 00:56:30,220 --> 00:56:32,220 the next room and it wouldn't have worried him. 880 00:56:32,300 --> 00:56:33,740 He would have just carried on. 881 00:56:33,820 --> 00:56:36,140 He goes, Don't worry about it Davis, it'll be okay. 882 00:56:36,220 --> 00:56:37,740 Because that's what he's like. 883 00:56:38,540 --> 00:56:41,500 I said, let me do the worrying, I done the worrying, as long as he won 884 00:56:41,580 --> 00:56:43,020 the fight, I didn't mind. 885 00:56:43,620 --> 00:56:50,860 MUSIC PLAYS 886 00:56:52,580 --> 00:56:56,740 The music began, Tina Turner, Simply The Best, which is one of the best 887 00:56:56,820 --> 00:56:59,220 entrance songs you could have. 888 00:56:59,300 --> 00:57:01,100 When that started, the whole place erupted. 889 00:57:01,180 --> 00:57:03,100 Everybody starts singing, Simply The Best. 890 00:57:03,180 --> 00:57:05,820 And he's coming down, the lights are all on him. 891 00:57:05,900 --> 00:57:08,620 Everybody's watching him, it's all about him, it's Chris Eubank, 892 00:57:08,700 --> 00:57:11,260 it's his show, it's him, he's the champ. 893 00:57:11,340 --> 00:57:13,780 The guy sitting in the corner, he's just a part. 894 00:57:13,860 --> 00:57:28,860 MUSIC PLAYS "SIMPLY THE BEST" BY TINA TURNER 895 00:57:28,940 --> 00:57:43,140 SINGING, CHEERING AND SHOUTING 896 00:57:45,700 --> 00:57:49,900 By the time we all got together, it was like a party, you know, we were 897 00:57:49,980 --> 00:57:54,620 all singing along, great form, having a few drinks and what have you. 898 00:57:54,700 --> 00:57:58,900 I'll never forget it, we were all standing on the seats. 899 00:57:59,780 --> 00:58:04,900 And when they were coming out, and the gas part was we were all happy. 900 00:58:04,980 --> 00:58:07,980 And when Eubanks was coming out, we were all singing. 901 00:58:08,060 --> 00:58:10,620 Do you understand? # simply the best. 902 00:58:10,700 --> 00:58:13,980 And I was saying to meself, why are we singing this to him? 903 00:58:14,380 --> 00:58:27,020 SIMPLY THE BEST CONTINUES TO PLAY 904 00:58:27,100 --> 00:58:31,900 LOUD CHEERING AND SHOUTING 905 00:58:31,980 --> 00:58:35,660 I'm walking into a cauldron of people who are against me. 906 00:58:35,740 --> 00:58:38,180 And I'm walking towards the danger. 907 00:58:38,260 --> 00:58:40,340 Look at me. 908 00:58:45,020 --> 00:58:50,740 It's wonderful, it's wonderful, it's for me, can you not see? 909 00:58:52,060 --> 00:58:55,740 You know, you know, if you're a fighter, you're not existing, you're 910 00:58:55,820 --> 00:58:57,820 not playing it safe. 911 00:58:59,180 --> 00:59:00,780 How many people can say that? 912 00:59:00,860 --> 00:59:06,180 How many people can say that they were in real and present danger, and 913 00:59:06,260 --> 00:59:09,900 they were not running, they weren't looking to actually escape it? 914 00:59:09,980 --> 00:59:13,100 They were moving towards it, they were combating it. 915 00:59:13,180 --> 00:59:14,860 Oh, what? 916 00:59:14,940 --> 00:59:16,620 Oh mate! 917 00:59:17,500 --> 00:59:19,220 Oh... 918 00:59:22,180 --> 00:59:24,940 That's beautiful, sorry, that's beautiful. 919 00:59:28,740 --> 00:59:36,460 CROWD CHANT "STEVO, STEVO" 920 00:59:36,540 --> 00:59:39,780 The more people hissed and spat at him and screamed at him and said the 921 00:59:39,860 --> 00:59:44,660 most abusive things to him, he would just touch his gloves and walk in and 922 00:59:44,740 --> 00:59:48,060 he'd wink at them, and he'd nod the head and he'd put the chin up like this. 923 00:59:48,140 --> 00:59:50,300 It was just great. 924 00:59:50,380 --> 00:59:53,220 I used to sit there ringside going, look at these guys, 925 00:59:53,300 --> 00:59:55,540 and they're going, we hate you. 926 00:59:55,620 --> 00:59:57,980 And he'd go, too bad. 927 00:59:58,060 --> 01:00:06,540 CROWD CHANT "STEVO, STEVO" 928 01:00:06,620 --> 01:00:10,500 The image he saw when he came to the ring, was he saw me not even paying 929 01:00:10,580 --> 01:00:11,940 attention to him. 930 01:00:12,020 --> 01:00:17,100 This, all this effort he put in was a waste and that, to me, was like a body blow. 931 01:00:17,180 --> 01:00:20,820 I remember the ropes moving and the spring on the ropes, and he hit the 932 01:00:20,900 --> 01:00:23,060 canvas, I could hear him hit the canvas. 933 01:00:23,140 --> 01:00:24,700 And I just went, right, this is it now. 934 01:00:24,780 --> 01:00:27,300 Stick to your plan. This is working, you know. 935 01:00:27,380 --> 01:00:31,500 And you know, obviously I couldn't see, I was aware, and I knew he'd be 936 01:00:31,580 --> 01:00:34,580 looking at me, and I just totally switched off, and I waited. 937 01:00:34,660 --> 01:00:39,180 CROWD CHANT "STEVO, STEVO" 938 01:00:39,260 --> 01:00:43,140 It wasn't until they announced me that I even acknowledged anybody. 939 01:00:43,220 --> 01:00:47,340 But they announced me, then I'd get up and I came out of my trance. 940 01:00:47,420 --> 01:00:51,180 I took off my robe, and I walked straight to the centre of the ring to 941 01:00:51,260 --> 01:00:53,300 front him, you know. 942 01:00:53,380 --> 01:00:56,660 And when I fronted him, it wasn't till I looked back on video that 943 01:00:56,740 --> 01:00:58,540 something happened that never happened before, and I must have 944 01:00:58,620 --> 01:01:02,580 obviously scared him and I scared his corner man, because 945 01:01:02,660 --> 01:01:06,420 his corner man, Ronnie Davis, who usually stands behind, like most 946 01:01:06,500 --> 01:01:10,300 corner men do, behind the fighters, stood between the two of us and put 947 01:01:10,380 --> 01:01:11,780 his arm out. 948 01:01:11,860 --> 01:01:15,380 I actually believe and think he was afraid I was gonna attack him before 949 01:01:15,460 --> 01:01:17,140 the fight even started. 950 01:01:17,220 --> 01:01:18,940 So I had them all rattled. 951 01:01:19,020 --> 01:01:21,780 You can see my lips move, and I kept telling him, I kept telling him 952 01:01:21,860 --> 01:01:23,260 "new champ, I'm gonna win". 953 01:01:23,340 --> 01:01:25,340 "I'm the new champ, I'm gonna win." "It's over." 954 01:01:25,420 --> 01:01:26,580 He couldn't even look at me. 955 01:01:26,660 --> 01:01:27,980 He put his head down because he just couldn't, he put his head down, 956 01:01:28,060 --> 01:01:29,260 he looked at the ground. 957 01:01:29,340 --> 01:01:32,380 So he's looking down at the ground, his trainer's there, giving us a 958 01:01:32,460 --> 01:01:34,940 part, and I'm giving it the whole "Big I Am". 959 01:01:35,020 --> 01:01:36,780 And I went back to the corner, put the mouthpiece in, it was like a 960 01:01:36,860 --> 01:01:39,700 movie, it was great, this is gonna be so easy, you know. 961 01:01:39,780 --> 01:01:41,180 And the bell rang and I went down... 962 01:01:41,260 --> 01:01:42,700 Whack! 963 01:01:42,780 --> 01:01:44,660 Fuckin' hell that hurt. 964 01:01:48,540 --> 01:01:50,460 Oh... Collins. 965 01:01:51,620 --> 01:01:54,100 Is that counted as a knockdown? No, it's not. 966 01:01:56,140 --> 01:01:58,420 Collins jumped up and shouted, no knockdown. 967 01:01:58,500 --> 01:02:00,780 But it did seem to be a glance of the right hand. 968 01:02:00,860 --> 01:02:04,220 LOUD ROAR 969 01:02:14,380 --> 01:02:16,540 Collins was very clever, a very clever person. 970 01:02:16,620 --> 01:02:18,660 He had a good, very good brain on him. 971 01:02:18,740 --> 01:02:21,220 He knew, as he said they had to cancel each other out right through 972 01:02:21,300 --> 01:02:26,100 the fight, because if you let Eubanks flow, you'd get murdered. 973 01:02:26,180 --> 01:02:28,020 He'd... cor! 974 01:02:34,780 --> 01:02:36,820 Didn't land with that, the crowd at the back of the hall thought he did, 975 01:02:36,900 --> 01:02:38,660 it only hit the glove of Eubank. 976 01:02:38,740 --> 01:02:41,180 And those punches from Collins do get through. 977 01:02:41,780 --> 01:02:43,300 Three or four of them. 978 01:02:43,380 --> 01:02:47,900 He did like to stand back, and he was accused of being boring at times 979 01:02:47,980 --> 01:02:49,620 and one pace. 980 01:02:49,700 --> 01:02:51,180 Collins knew that. 981 01:02:51,260 --> 01:02:55,740 Collins knew to keep the pace of the fight high, go in, do his work, and 982 01:02:55,820 --> 01:02:59,300 take a step back, and then just retreat and move to the left and go 983 01:02:59,380 --> 01:03:00,700 in again. 984 01:03:00,780 --> 01:03:02,420 So it was a tactical thing. 985 01:03:02,500 --> 01:03:05,140 And I even said it in the commentary that night. 986 01:03:05,220 --> 01:03:08,940 I said, you know, Eubank can't allow Collins to go in, steal a couple of 987 01:03:09,020 --> 01:03:12,020 shots and then get back out again, he's got to go to him. 988 01:03:12,100 --> 01:03:16,660 Everybody has their qualities and his quality was fighting, 989 01:03:16,740 --> 01:03:20,220 backing up, you know, getting hit and not having any effect on him, 990 01:03:20,300 --> 01:03:22,540 and walking guys on to counter punches. 991 01:03:22,620 --> 01:03:25,260 And by God, could he do it well! 992 01:03:34,300 --> 01:03:40,620 The gratitude I have for being chosen for this vocation, I can't 993 01:03:40,700 --> 01:03:46,580 tell you how lucky I've been that I did it correctly, because you can't 994 01:03:46,660 --> 01:03:50,020 do it, you can't make it if you don't do it correctly, but if you do 995 01:03:50,100 --> 01:03:55,980 it correctly, you continue to, you continue to enjoy your career over 996 01:03:56,060 --> 01:03:59,100 and over and over and over. 997 01:04:01,900 --> 01:04:04,540 Collins, once again he's past. 998 01:04:08,780 --> 01:04:11,780 He did seem to hurt Eubank a little bit there with them punches. 999 01:04:11,860 --> 01:04:15,540 Chris Eubank was verbal, but so was I, and I would talk to 1000 01:04:15,620 --> 01:04:18,300 him, and I felt so comfortable in there. 1001 01:04:18,380 --> 01:04:21,540 I felt so well prepared, and I was enjoying it, because I knew, I knew I 1002 01:04:21,620 --> 01:04:22,820 could beat him. 1003 01:04:22,900 --> 01:04:26,220 I knew I had the advantage, so I knew I had the skills and experience to beat him. 1004 01:04:27,100 --> 01:04:28,540 So I felt pretty comfortable. 1005 01:04:28,620 --> 01:04:30,860 He was dangerous, he did catch with some good shots. 1006 01:04:30,940 --> 01:04:33,220 So I was always very much aware of his danger, and I knew as the fight 1007 01:04:33,300 --> 01:04:35,380 went on, and I felt I was in control. 1008 01:04:35,460 --> 01:04:37,900 As the fight went on, he was getting more dangerous because he knew it 1009 01:04:37,980 --> 01:04:39,380 wasn't going his way. 1010 01:04:39,460 --> 01:04:42,980 Surely there could be no doubting Collins' desire here. 1011 01:05:03,780 --> 01:05:05,100 I feel Eubank's got to pick it up. 1012 01:05:05,180 --> 01:05:08,260 He's got to try and do something big in one of these rounds. 1013 01:05:08,340 --> 01:05:10,980 I just feel he's slightly getting out worked by Collins. 1014 01:05:11,060 --> 01:05:14,100 Between Freddie King and the Tony Quinn teaching me one inch punch, 1015 01:05:14,180 --> 01:05:17,140 that was the jab to the head, drop the legs, straight to the body, and 1016 01:05:17,220 --> 01:05:20,460 come back with the left hook, which is my best shot. 1017 01:05:20,540 --> 01:05:23,980 LOUD CHEER 1018 01:05:24,060 --> 01:05:26,420 I reckon if it had caught him, it would have knocked him out, but 1019 01:05:26,500 --> 01:05:29,180 because I put so much drive into the right hand, I practically lifted him 1020 01:05:29,260 --> 01:05:32,260 off his feet, and drove him back so far, then when the left hook came 1021 01:05:32,340 --> 01:05:34,540 around, I actually -- he was too far away. 1022 01:05:34,620 --> 01:05:35,820 I missed him. 1023 01:05:35,900 --> 01:05:38,300 Crashes through his right. Eubank is in trouble here. 1024 01:05:38,660 --> 01:05:41,220 Well Collins said he had the extra punch power. 1025 01:05:41,820 --> 01:05:43,980 And Eubank comes back in terrific style... 1026 01:05:45,740 --> 01:05:48,020 What a round this is, look at Eubank. 1027 01:05:48,100 --> 01:05:50,180 Suddenly come back with an answer. 1028 01:05:50,260 --> 01:05:52,340 He's been stung by that... BELL RINGS 1029 01:05:52,420 --> 01:05:55,780 It was the first time he's been down since 1991. 1030 01:05:55,860 --> 01:05:58,460 There were several fights where Eubank just, we thought he just 1031 01:05:58,540 --> 01:06:00,620 didn't do enough to get the decision. 1032 01:06:00,700 --> 01:06:03,900 But then you're judging it against him, and then the judges all come 1033 01:06:03,980 --> 01:06:07,380 back for him and then you start to think, hold on a second, 1034 01:06:07,460 --> 01:06:10,540 well if I do that, I'll be made to look like an idiot again. 1035 01:06:10,620 --> 01:06:13,060 And so you start to think, well, the close rounds, maybe I'll give it 1036 01:06:13,140 --> 01:06:14,420 to Eubank. 1037 01:06:14,500 --> 01:06:16,820 There were a lot of, and I don't mean this to be in any way 1038 01:06:16,900 --> 01:06:19,940 disrespectful, Eubank was a tremendous fighter. 1039 01:06:20,020 --> 01:06:22,820 Often it looked like he was out-worked for a round. 1040 01:06:22,900 --> 01:06:25,620 And I would say it's, you know, he's A, and the other guy's B, and I was 1041 01:06:25,700 --> 01:06:27,500 giving B rounds that were close. 1042 01:06:27,580 --> 01:06:29,460 And then I see at the end of the fight, actually all those rounds 1043 01:06:29,540 --> 01:06:30,940 were given to Eubank. 1044 01:06:31,020 --> 01:06:33,540 Good moments again from Collins, Eubank has to do something special. 1045 01:06:33,620 --> 01:06:36,220 He's got to pull a big one, and he's trying with that right hand. 1046 01:06:37,340 --> 01:06:39,460 Key phase of the fight now. 1047 01:06:49,140 --> 01:06:55,620 LOUD ROAR 1048 01:06:55,700 --> 01:07:01,220 The Irish crowd, a lot of them were on their feet as those punches got through. 1049 01:07:02,460 --> 01:07:04,460 When he had a fight and he'd come back in the gym, he'd had a few 1050 01:07:04,540 --> 01:07:06,940 weeks off, which he never took a few weeks off the gym, but he hadn't 1051 01:07:07,020 --> 01:07:09,580 sparred, he let the opponents hit him. 1052 01:07:09,660 --> 01:07:11,540 And I said, what are you doing, what are you doing? 1053 01:07:11,620 --> 01:07:14,100 I need to feel the pain, I need to feel the pain. 1054 01:07:14,180 --> 01:07:16,780 That's what he was like, and he would overcome it with his mental, 1055 01:07:16,860 --> 01:07:22,740 as I said, I've never had a fighter like him with such mental strength. 1056 01:07:22,820 --> 01:07:27,100 I used to say to him, don't rely on that punch resistance to win fights. 1057 01:07:27,180 --> 01:07:29,420 He's no, no, I won't, he said, I know what I'm doing. 1058 01:07:29,500 --> 01:07:33,060 Crushing left hand, but Collins takes the punches as the bell goes 1059 01:07:33,140 --> 01:07:34,340 to end that round. 1060 01:07:34,420 --> 01:07:36,380 Eubank punches the air. 1061 01:07:37,620 --> 01:07:40,740 A puncher always has a chance in a fight. 1062 01:07:40,820 --> 01:07:43,780 Doesn't matter how far behind he is, a puncher always has a chance. 1063 01:07:43,860 --> 01:07:48,820 Eubank had picked himself up off the floor against Nigel Benn to stop Nigel Benn. 1064 01:07:48,900 --> 01:07:54,380 In that awful final round against Michael Watson, he was, he's out on 1065 01:07:54,460 --> 01:07:59,820 his feet, he was knocked down, stood up and delivered this uppercut, 1066 01:07:59,900 --> 01:08:05,180 which was, you know, the punch that essentially ended Michael Watson's 1067 01:08:05,260 --> 01:08:07,060 career and almost ended his life. 1068 01:08:07,140 --> 01:08:12,060 So he had this extraordinary explosive power. 1069 01:08:12,140 --> 01:08:14,700 His WBO Super middleweight championship. 1070 01:08:14,780 --> 01:08:18,340 In this his 15th... and he's caught Collins 1071 01:08:18,420 --> 01:08:21,100 As I was going down, just look at my expression. 1072 01:08:21,180 --> 01:08:23,780 I'm going, I'm smiling, I'm going, fuck, you know, because I knew I was 1073 01:08:23,860 --> 01:08:25,060 caught square. 1074 01:08:25,140 --> 01:08:26,940 I got up on one knee, and the referee came to me, and I got up and 1075 01:08:27,020 --> 01:08:29,260 I put up the glove, and he says, are you fine? I said, yeah, great. 1076 01:08:29,340 --> 01:08:30,980 And then Eubank ran at me. 1077 01:08:33,180 --> 01:08:38,460 I thought, two or three more punches and it's over, and you just expected 1078 01:08:38,540 --> 01:08:45,940 Eubank to charge in there with fists flailing and finish the fight. 1079 01:08:51,340 --> 01:08:53,100 Is Collins' head really clear? 1080 01:08:53,180 --> 01:08:56,900 I was banging the canvas, finish the fight, finish the fight, finish him, 1081 01:08:56,980 --> 01:08:58,460 finish him off and he wouldn't. 1082 01:08:58,540 --> 01:09:00,140 He just walked about. 1083 01:09:01,100 --> 01:09:06,180 May make the crisis a very deep and alarming one indeed for Steve Collins. 1084 01:09:06,260 --> 01:09:08,780 Yes, his legs still don't look solid. 1085 01:09:08,860 --> 01:09:14,060 He postured, he posed, he didn't make the commitment, and frankly, 1086 01:09:14,140 --> 01:09:16,060 let Steve Collins off the hook. 1087 01:09:16,140 --> 01:09:18,620 And Steve was a good enough fighter to take advantage. 1088 01:09:18,980 --> 01:09:20,740 What do you think he's saying? 1089 01:09:21,420 --> 01:09:25,260 I think he's just trying to lull him into a false sense of security. 1090 01:09:25,340 --> 01:09:28,460 He's trying to bring Collins in, trying to make him make a mistake 1091 01:09:28,540 --> 01:09:30,020 so he can counter. 1092 01:09:30,980 --> 01:09:32,540 They're both saying, come on, come on. 1093 01:09:32,620 --> 01:09:36,100 I think they both want the other to lead, so that they can counter. 1094 01:09:36,180 --> 01:09:39,780 He was just hopeless at coming forward, and he was pretty gassed at 1095 01:09:39,860 --> 01:09:41,220 that stage. 1096 01:09:41,300 --> 01:09:44,140 And even though he knew he was well behind, he couldn't do it. 1097 01:09:44,220 --> 01:09:48,300 He simply couldn't come forward and fight aggressively enough. 1098 01:10:00,980 --> 01:10:04,100 I don't want to, I'd rather not actually talk on that for this 1099 01:10:04,180 --> 01:10:11,060 reason that it takes credit away from Steve, that I can't do, no. 1100 01:10:11,140 --> 01:10:15,260 I chose to do what I did and it was a choice I made. 1101 01:10:16,740 --> 01:10:19,980 He was in trouble in the early seconds of the round, and I was kind 1102 01:10:20,060 --> 01:10:23,140 of expecting a Eubank barrage really, for the rest of the round. 1103 01:10:23,220 --> 01:10:24,540 That has not happened. 1104 01:10:25,780 --> 01:10:27,340 That was a slip. 1105 01:10:27,420 --> 01:10:31,380 As the bell goes, but that was a 10-8 round for Chris Eubank. 1106 01:10:31,460 --> 01:10:33,020 He come back to the corner. 1107 01:10:33,100 --> 01:10:35,540 And I've got him to realise, I slapped him so hard. 1108 01:10:35,620 --> 01:10:37,780 I said, you've just blown it boy, you've just blown it. 1109 01:10:41,180 --> 01:10:42,700 You're gonna stop him. 1110 01:10:42,780 --> 01:10:44,300 Sit down, sit down. 1111 01:10:44,380 --> 01:10:47,380 Davey seemed to be furious with him for not finishing the fight when 1112 01:10:47,460 --> 01:10:52,420 he could have and he said, you've got two rounds to win the fight. 1113 01:10:52,500 --> 01:10:54,860 You've got two rounds to save your title. 1114 01:10:54,940 --> 01:10:59,380 Pretty close again here as they touch gloves, the final three minutes. 1115 01:11:00,620 --> 01:11:04,220 But one thing strikes me, try telling this big Irish crowd that 1116 01:11:04,300 --> 01:11:06,220 Collins is not ahead. 1117 01:11:06,300 --> 01:11:11,300 The press, or a few of them anyway, think Eubank might be winning. 1118 01:11:18,180 --> 01:11:21,740 I've never been under so much pressure, I've never been so wanting 1119 01:11:21,820 --> 01:11:27,380 to succeed and determined and in a dangerous place ever in my career, 1120 01:11:27,460 --> 01:11:30,740 as I had been that night, and I did put myself under pressure. 1121 01:11:30,820 --> 01:11:35,540 And I did say things public to purposely put myself under pressure. 1122 01:11:35,620 --> 01:11:37,140 I wanted to be under pressure. 1123 01:11:37,220 --> 01:11:41,540 I wanted to be in a situation that you have to win this. 1124 01:11:41,620 --> 01:11:45,140 After all you've said, all you've gobbed off, all you've done, 1125 01:11:45,220 --> 01:11:48,300 if you don't back this up, you're finished. 1126 01:11:51,900 --> 01:11:55,260 Whoa, big right from Eubank! 1127 01:11:55,340 --> 01:11:57,580 Collins took it very, very well indeed. 1128 01:12:03,540 --> 01:12:08,540 I would rank Chris Eubank as the physically strongest, 1129 01:12:08,620 --> 01:12:12,620 toughest and probably one of the most determined fighters I've ever fought. 1130 01:12:12,700 --> 01:12:15,540 I felt he was dangerous to the last second of the last round, 1131 01:12:15,620 --> 01:12:19,420 and really wanted to keep his title. 1132 01:12:19,860 --> 01:12:23,380 Really on instinct, with the batteries going ever flatter... 1133 01:12:23,460 --> 01:12:25,660 BELL RINGS 1134 01:12:27,100 --> 01:12:29,140 Who's got that? 1135 01:12:29,220 --> 01:12:31,020 We shall see. 1136 01:12:33,660 --> 01:12:40,300 It was close, as I said, all the newspapers and TV had him two rounds up. 1137 01:12:43,780 --> 01:12:47,300 Look at the tape, and you'll see me inside in the ring, 1138 01:12:47,380 --> 01:12:50,340 I said, Steve, I think you've won. 1139 01:12:50,420 --> 01:12:55,060 And he threw his arm around my neck, and he said, I know I have won. 1140 01:13:04,100 --> 01:13:08,300 Chris Eubank was the golden goose of Sky Sports and Matchroom Boxing. 1141 01:13:08,380 --> 01:13:12,020 So were they going to let -- and I won't even say it was a close fight 1142 01:13:12,100 --> 01:13:14,300 when he fought Steve, I don't think it was. 1143 01:13:14,380 --> 01:13:17,420 I think Steve won the fight by probably eight to four rounds. 1144 01:13:17,500 --> 01:13:19,740 But could we see him being robbed? 1145 01:13:26,580 --> 01:13:29,620 If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs 1146 01:13:29,700 --> 01:13:31,460 and blaming it on you. 1147 01:13:31,540 --> 01:13:36,340 If you can trust yourself, when all men doubt you, but make allowance 1148 01:13:36,420 --> 01:13:38,140 for their doubting too. 1149 01:13:38,220 --> 01:13:42,300 If you can dream and not make dreams your master. 1150 01:13:42,380 --> 01:13:46,100 If you can think and not make thoughts your aim. 1151 01:13:46,820 --> 01:13:50,340 If you can meet with triumph and disaster, 1152 01:13:50,420 --> 01:13:53,940 and treat those two imposters just the same. 1153 01:13:54,020 --> 01:13:59,500 Yours is this earth and everything that is in it, 1154 01:13:59,580 --> 01:14:04,380 and which is more, you will be a standard bearer. 1155 01:14:05,380 --> 01:14:06,740 You will be an example. 1156 01:14:06,820 --> 01:14:08,220 You will be a benchmark. 1157 01:14:08,300 --> 01:14:10,500 You will be, you will be a man. 1158 01:14:11,020 --> 01:14:16,060 Ladies and gentlemen, we have a unanimous decision... 1159 01:14:16,140 --> 01:14:19,860 CHEERING 1160 01:14:21,180 --> 01:14:23,420 When I was writing the column for that Saturday, it was Saturday 1161 01:14:23,500 --> 01:14:26,340 evening column, which is the night of the fight, I knew I was sticking 1162 01:14:26,420 --> 01:14:30,500 my neck out, but I did go for Collins, it was against the grain, 1163 01:14:30,580 --> 01:14:34,780 because nobody else seemed to be, you know, convinced that he could do it. 1164 01:14:34,860 --> 01:14:38,140 Ladies and gentlemen, the winner and the new... 1165 01:14:38,220 --> 01:14:43,340 LOUD CHEERING 1166 01:14:48,860 --> 01:14:50,820 Eubanks was the kiddie on the block. 1167 01:14:50,900 --> 01:14:54,380 He was the shining example of success. 1168 01:14:54,460 --> 01:14:58,740 And then this little kid from Cabra, from a working class family, comes 1169 01:14:58,820 --> 01:15:01,940 in and just takes it from under him. 1170 01:15:04,060 --> 01:15:07,540 It was just the worst idea ever had, as it turned out, wasn't it? 1171 01:15:07,620 --> 01:15:10,740 You know, we had Steve Collins had just won the middleweight title, 1172 01:15:10,820 --> 01:15:12,260 he beat Chris Pyatt. 1173 01:15:12,340 --> 01:15:14,180 And then I come up with this idea. 1174 01:15:14,260 --> 01:15:18,300 Look, you know, we can't really seem to find a big middleweight fight. 1175 01:15:18,380 --> 01:15:21,180 Why don't you move up to super middleweight? 1176 01:15:21,260 --> 01:15:24,100 And I'm virtually saying to him, why don't you move up to super 1177 01:15:24,180 --> 01:15:25,820 middleweight and get beat? 1178 01:15:25,900 --> 01:15:27,780 Because it doesn't really matter, because you're still going to be 1179 01:15:27,860 --> 01:15:30,940 middleweight champion and you're gonna get a colossal payday. 1180 01:15:31,620 --> 01:15:34,060 It all seemed to tick so many boxes. 1181 01:15:34,140 --> 01:15:37,380 And then, you know, Steve forgot the script, didn't he really? 1182 01:15:39,220 --> 01:15:40,820 No complaints. 1183 01:15:40,900 --> 01:15:42,860 I don't have any complaints. 1184 01:15:42,940 --> 01:15:46,700 An opponent brings you to places where you can only look back and 1185 01:15:46,780 --> 01:15:49,380 thank them for. 1186 01:15:50,140 --> 01:15:54,220 I thank them for putting me through what they put me through. 1187 01:15:54,300 --> 01:15:59,140 In regards to that first loss, it was the relief that, you know, 1188 01:15:59,220 --> 01:16:02,340 perhaps you can see me now as a human being, because I am. 1189 01:16:05,340 --> 01:16:08,140 I tell you the truth, it was very close. 1190 01:16:08,220 --> 01:16:14,900 It was a very, very close fight, and it was -- when Stephen won, 1191 01:16:14,980 --> 01:16:18,300 I needn't tell you, oh my God, it was great. 1192 01:16:18,380 --> 01:16:22,860 It was great because Eubanks was good too, you know. 1193 01:16:22,940 --> 01:16:26,900 And they all thought Eubanks was going to win because he was heard 1194 01:16:26,980 --> 01:16:32,060 of, and he was known and he was tough, but he wasn't tougher than Stephen. 1195 01:16:36,540 --> 01:16:39,820 I just thought Steve was the perfect guy to work with. 1196 01:16:40,580 --> 01:16:42,660 It made it all very easy for me. 1197 01:16:42,740 --> 01:16:45,740 I felt I was very lucky, but I thought there was something you see 1198 01:16:45,820 --> 01:16:51,380 strange going on, from the time I was with my dad watching that movie, 1199 01:16:51,460 --> 01:16:56,100 then I always thought I was going to be in Vegas, like all, you know, it 1200 01:16:56,180 --> 01:16:57,940 was destiny, really. 1201 01:16:58,020 --> 01:17:00,420 Steve never lost again. 1202 01:17:00,500 --> 01:17:02,300 It's like a path. 1203 01:17:02,380 --> 01:17:06,460 So we got on that path together for a while, and we were both winners. 1204 01:17:08,700 --> 01:17:10,020 It was elevated into the air. 1205 01:17:10,100 --> 01:17:12,420 I'm sure it's probably picked up on my brothers and family, but I just 1206 01:17:12,500 --> 01:17:18,180 rose into the air, and I thought, do you know, if I die now, 1207 01:17:18,260 --> 01:17:19,860 I've achieved it. 1208 01:18:52,420 --> 01:19:06,020 Subtitling by Premier Captioning & Realtime Ltd. www.pcr.ie 110616

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