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In the criminal justice system
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the people are represented by two
separate yet equally important groups,
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the police who investigate crime
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and the district attorneys
who prosecute the offenders.
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These are their stories.
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Hey, what's taking Mike?
His dessert's getting wasted.
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Maybe he fell in.
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It looks delicious
now. Hey, easy.
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Hey! You said it
was getting wasted.
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He said it's Mike's.
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Mike?
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Mike?
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Mike?
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Andy, Paul, I'm
in here. I'm okay.
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The moron missed me.
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Let's get the hell out of here.
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Go. Go.
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Milton Garner, 37-year-old
camera repairman.
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His wife's out front. Poor
woman's all shook up.
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Some lady saw him walking
in just as the shooting began.
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Excuse me. Do you mind?
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This lock get busted
in the shooting?
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We broke it to get
at the second victim.
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Leon Mayer, 54, he's
a doctor from Seattle.
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Now he's at Hudson E.R.
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Good luck to him.
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He's unconscious. He's
got three slugs in him.
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And three holes in the door.
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That's impressive shooting. Was
anybody else in here with them?
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All right, these two guys,
they were at table 14,
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and they came running by with
guns. I figured them for cops.
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Their friend was
in the second stall.
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The one next to the wounded guy.
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Looked pretty scared.
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Where'd they go?
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Oh, they went
right out the front.
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Where does that door lead?
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That's 47th Street.
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You got someone
canvassing out there?
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Okay, the shooter
probably went out there.
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Then, Mark here, says he
saw two guys run into the john,
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then three run out.
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They say anything?
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The third guy, the one that
they'd gotten out of the stall,
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I think he said that
the moron missed him.
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Okay, Mark, do me a
favor, you wait up front,
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then we're going to take
you down to the station,
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put you with a
sketch artist, all right?
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All right.
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Sounds to me like a hit.
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And a miss.
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This is a disaster.
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This party of three at table
14, we're going to need a name.
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Party of six. Three couples.
There was no reservation.
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Really? The busboy
said you had a full house.
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We did. But they insisted.
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Someone slipped you a $20?
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A $50. We've been
reviewed in the Times.
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Anybody come in after them?
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No.
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Did you see them talking
to any of the other patrons?
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Not that I noticed.
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Oh, uh...
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One of the ladies
gave me a card.
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She fancied herself
a wine expert.
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She ordered the
Cabaret Sauvignon.
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Can you imagine?
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How gauche.
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Gayle Landis, sales
representative, Wines Aplenty.
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She said she works
for them part-time.
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Wine in a bag. Unbelievable.
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The guys seemed nice.
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Considering I think
they were ex-cons,
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which normally
doesn't bother me much.
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I mean, people
make mistakes, right?
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Right. Who were they?
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Jerks.
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Maybe I'm old-fashioned,
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but if you heard shooting,
would you ditch your date?
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He wouldn't. Uh, these
jerks have names?
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Andy, Paul and Mike.
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That's all I got.
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I never seen them
before last night,
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and I don't expect to
ever see them again.
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Which one was in the restroom?
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Mike.
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What does Mike do?
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Professional stamp
licker. I don't know.
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He had his tongue in
Jen's ear most of the night.
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So how'd you hook up
with the Three Stooges?
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Jen. She said they were
friends of her husband, Kenny.
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Maybe we better talk to Kenny.
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He's easy to find.
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He's in Altona doing
three-to-six for armed robbery.
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Gayle's wrong.
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You're cheating on your husband
with a guy somebody tried to kill.
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We understand how you'd
be scared to talk to us.
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I wasn't there.
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Why would Gayle lie?
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Out of habit.
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Did she happen to tell
you she was in Cats once?
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Maybe we should ask Kenny
what he thinks of his wife
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getting the wax sucked out
of her ear by his buddy Mike.
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Go ahead and ask him. He
knows it's just a bunch of lies.
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He doesn't know any
Mike, and I don't either.
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So, you want to
take a trip to Altona?
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And get lied to by a pro?
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If Kenny got wind
of Jenny and Mike,
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maybe he had one of his known
associates take care of things.
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Monday would have
been our fifth anniversary,
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but we couldn't
get a sitter for then,
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so we figured we'd
celebrate early.
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Why would anyone
want to hurt Milton?
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We think he was simply in the
wrong place at the wrong time.
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We were eating dinner in a nice
restaurant in a safe neighborhood.
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We're doing all we can.
We're very sorry for your loss.
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I have to pick up
our son at daycare.
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What's happening with
the other victim, Dr. Mayer?
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Still unconscious
and not getting better.
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His family been notified?
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His home number's unlisted,
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but we got his address
off his driver's license.
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Seattle PD's going to send
a car over to ring his doorbell.
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Didn't he have a credit card?
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Yeah. His billing
address is his work.
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I left a message on
his machine at his office.
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Maybe by Monday,
somebody will call us back.
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Where was he staying in town?
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He had a hotel key card, but
the hotel's name isn't on the card.
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Okay. Should I switch
to easy questions?
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Well, we know what
caliber he was shot with.
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Hospital pulled three
.38 slugs out of him.
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Kenneth Felker's sheet.
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The guy he pulled the stick-up
with, Michael Thompson.
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Mike.
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Felker's still in,
Thompson's already out?
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Oh, it pays to rat
out your friends.
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He rolled on Felker
and cut himself a deal.
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So, I guess Mike was in a
hurry to console Felker's wife.
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Get with his P.O.
for a current address.
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I don't know what
you're talking about.
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Forget about it, Mike.
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We passed your picture
around the restaurant.
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Four people made you.
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So why did you take off?
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What we hear, someone
was trying to whack you.
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I didn't want to get violated 'cause
I'm eating with the wrong people.
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You're going to get violated
now if you don't start talking.
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So, who was this
moron throwing shots?
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Willie. Willie Felker.
Kenny's brother.
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He found out about me and Jen.
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We had some words
a few days back.
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Those words include,
"I'm going to kill you"?
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Yeah.
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So what happened
at the restaurant?
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I'm sitting on the john,
minding my business.
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People come in, they go
out. Then I hear a gun cock.
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So, right away,
I pull my feet up.
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Then it's like a
shooting gallery.
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I heard the guy next
to me getting popped.
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How did you know it was
Kenny's brother? You saw him?
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Oh, yeah. I just stuck
my head right out
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and said "Is that you, Willie?"
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How did this guy know you were
going to be at that restaurant?
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He didn't. He followed me.
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You sure? He had to.
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Unless the brother is Kreskin,
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he couldn't have
been waiting for them
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if they didn't know
where they were going.
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Could have waited outside till he
saw Mike head for the john. Curtis.
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They were stuffing
themselves for an hour.
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Somebody would've
noticed him hanging around.
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Yeah. Thanks. It's Profaci.
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Hospital just called. Mayer
just took a turn for the worse.
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May be our last
chance to talk to him.
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He won't be able to
talk for a few days.
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We had to open him up
again. But he's stable for now.
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What happened?
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Pulmonary embolism.
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Once we got inside,
we figured out why.
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We missed a bullet
the first time around.
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You missed a bullet?
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What can I tell you. It
didn't show up in the x-rays.
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So that makes four
bullets you took out of him?
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That's right. I hope
we have them all now.
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There were only three
holes in the door of the stall.
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Yeah. The door that was locked.
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So, Mayer must
have taken a bullet
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before he could get it closed.
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So, if the door was open
when the shooting started,
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the perp had to see
who he was shooting at.
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Mayer was the target, not Mike.
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Good news for Mike.
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We got Dr. Mayer's
personal effects here.
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Breath spray. Breath
mints. Maybe he had a date.
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Here. Check his
wallet for rubbers.
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You think his date shot him?
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Or whoever he
came to town to see.
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Picture of his kids. No wife.
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Probably divorced.
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Seattle PD said they didn't get an
answer when they rang his doorbell.
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Restaurant receipts. Modo
Mio in LA Monday night.
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Receipt for magazines.
O'Hare Airport Wednesday.
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Another restaurant in
Atlanta Thursday night.
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Must have had a
hell of a practice.
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Rent. Friday night. $75 ticket.
You think he went by himself?
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Well, he had dinner by himself.
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Maybe his date got a headache.
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September 14th. Row what?
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"G". Seat 14.
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Is this about somebody
scalping tickets?
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No.
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Come on. You gotta tell me.
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Homicide.
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Really?
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My friends are going to die.
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About the ticket.
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Sure.
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The ticket was bought
as a single by Leon Mayer.
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Is that the guy who
was homicided?
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No. Did Mr. Mayer
call the order in?
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No. The concierge at
his hotel would have.
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The ticket's part of a block
we put aside for some hotels.
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They're mainly singles,
real tough to unload.
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Which hotel?
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The Hampstead.
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He checked in Friday morning.
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Housekeeping doesn't
think the room's been slept in.
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You booked his
theater ticket? Yes.
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Did he say why he was in town?
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No. We just talked
about musicals.
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He said that he'd seen Yul
Brynner in The King and I in 1964.
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Well, it's just
clothing and toiletries.
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No address book.
No appointment book.
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Probably all on his hard drive.
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Probably?
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It's password protected.
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Is that his bill?
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No phone calls.
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Did he get any messages? No.
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What's this notation mean?
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The room's been prepaid
by Phillips and Schulman.
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It's a law firm. They
often put people up here.
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He's an expert witness,
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forensic psychologist.
One of the best in his field.
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He was due in court
after lunch today.
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Yeah? What case?
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People v. Worley.
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The guy who ran
over his girlfriend?
250
00:10:57,423 --> 00:10:58,948
Dr. Mayer was going to testify
251
00:10:59,025 --> 00:11:02,325
my client isn't responsible for
murdering the girl he murdered.
252
00:11:02,662 --> 00:11:04,722
Oh, one of those
expert witnesses.
253
00:11:05,732 --> 00:11:08,031
And I thought Mayer
was being paranoid.
254
00:11:08,501 --> 00:11:09,594
What are you talking about?
255
00:11:09,669 --> 00:11:13,299
He was pissed we made the hotel
reservation under his real name.
256
00:11:13,373 --> 00:11:16,002
He always checks in
under a pseudonym.
257
00:11:16,075 --> 00:11:17,907
This is going to be a lawsuit.
258
00:11:18,244 --> 00:11:19,712
I know it.
259
00:11:22,448 --> 00:11:25,646
Worley. Didn't he crush his
girlfriend against a wall with a car?
260
00:11:25,718 --> 00:11:27,949
Yeah. A '54 Studebaker.
261
00:11:28,021 --> 00:11:31,253
Mayer was the hired gun to convince
a jury Worley's a mental defect.
262
00:11:31,324 --> 00:11:34,761
I'm convinced. Guy purposely
messed up a vintage automobile.
263
00:11:34,827 --> 00:11:37,922
So Mayer was shot by
an antique car collector?
264
00:11:37,997 --> 00:11:39,260
Or by the girl's brother.
265
00:11:39,332 --> 00:11:41,301
Lawyer said he attacked
Worley at his arraignment.
266
00:11:41,367 --> 00:11:44,804
Well, see where this hot-head
had dinner Friday night.
267
00:11:45,271 --> 00:11:47,740
I begged Lisa to
get away from him.
268
00:11:47,807 --> 00:11:51,300
She finally told him to get
lost, the bastard killed her.
269
00:11:51,377 --> 00:11:53,573
So, what? You went
to court to kick his ass?
270
00:11:53,646 --> 00:11:56,639
Seeing his smug face, it
seemed like the right thing to do.
271
00:11:56,716 --> 00:11:58,378
Where were you Friday night?
272
00:11:58,451 --> 00:12:01,421
At home with my wife,
my kids and my mother.
273
00:12:01,487 --> 00:12:03,683
She's staying with
us during the trial.
274
00:12:03,756 --> 00:12:07,591
Must be tough, thinking this guy
might get off on an insanity plea.
275
00:12:07,660 --> 00:12:10,687
Mayer made a career
out of this theory of his,
276
00:12:10,763 --> 00:12:12,857
dissociation disorder.
277
00:12:12,932 --> 00:12:16,198
He says Worley snapped
and went into a trance.
278
00:12:16,903 --> 00:12:17,927
It's a joke.
279
00:12:18,471 --> 00:12:20,804
Big break he won't
be able to testify, huh?
280
00:12:21,774 --> 00:12:24,039
It's funny how
things work out, huh?
281
00:12:24,110 --> 00:12:25,738
But I had nothing to do with it.
282
00:12:26,279 --> 00:12:30,273
Try the families of the 200-plus
victims his clients have killed.
283
00:12:30,750 --> 00:12:33,083
Sorry. I've never
seen him before.
284
00:12:33,152 --> 00:12:34,552
None of the
busboys or waiters...
285
00:12:34,621 --> 00:12:36,021
No. They don't
remember him, either.
286
00:12:36,055 --> 00:12:37,148
I wish I could help.
287
00:12:37,223 --> 00:12:38,282
That pretzel guy,
288
00:12:38,358 --> 00:12:39,724
is he a regular around here?
289
00:12:39,792 --> 00:12:41,420
Day and night. I
can't get rid of him.
290
00:12:41,494 --> 00:12:43,429
Sometimes we can smell
those disgusting things
291
00:12:43,496 --> 00:12:45,055
all the way in the restaurant.
292
00:12:45,131 --> 00:12:46,599
Well, thanks.
293
00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:50,698
So, the shooter comes out the
side door, maybe he ran by this guy.
294
00:12:50,770 --> 00:12:53,171
Yeah. So, what do you
say we have some lunch?
295
00:12:53,239 --> 00:12:55,470
Hey! How are you doing? Police.
296
00:12:55,541 --> 00:12:58,534
I have a permit at home. The
boss won't sign for renewals.
297
00:12:58,611 --> 00:13:01,979
Relax. We're not the pretzel
police. Let me have an extra salty.
298
00:13:02,048 --> 00:13:03,048
Yes, sir.
299
00:13:03,116 --> 00:13:06,553
So, last Friday night, you
here for all the excitement?
300
00:13:06,619 --> 00:13:09,111
Excitement? BRISCOE:
Yeah. The shooting inside.
301
00:13:09,188 --> 00:13:10,520
Oh, yes. Yes.
302
00:13:10,590 --> 00:13:11,867
I don't know what
the guy's talking about.
303
00:13:11,891 --> 00:13:13,325
These are pretty
good. Thank you.
304
00:13:13,393 --> 00:13:16,056
So, did the police officers
take your statement?
305
00:13:16,129 --> 00:13:20,464
Oh, no. When cops are
coming, I'm going. Quickly.
306
00:13:20,533 --> 00:13:22,661
Did you see this guy
run out the side door?
307
00:13:22,735 --> 00:13:24,795
Nobody comes out from that door.
308
00:13:24,871 --> 00:13:26,100
Nobody? You sure?
309
00:13:26,172 --> 00:13:28,698
Yes. If people
come out, I see them.
310
00:13:29,809 --> 00:13:33,075
So, nobody saw the shooter
leave through the dining room.
311
00:13:33,146 --> 00:13:35,411
He had to go out the side.
312
00:13:35,481 --> 00:13:37,643
Unless he ducked in here.
313
00:13:37,717 --> 00:13:38,878
Oh, sorry.
314
00:13:40,887 --> 00:13:43,065
There were interviews with
two women who were in the can
315
00:13:43,089 --> 00:13:45,786
at the time of the shooting. I
think they would've noticed.
316
00:13:45,858 --> 00:13:47,622
Not if he was a she.
317
00:13:49,128 --> 00:13:51,359
The poor man who was killed?
318
00:13:51,431 --> 00:13:53,764
He was right in front of me.
319
00:13:53,833 --> 00:13:57,395
Walked into the men's room
just as the shots were fired.
320
00:13:57,470 --> 00:13:59,302
So, what did you do?
321
00:13:59,372 --> 00:14:02,365
Ran into the ladies'
room and stayed there.
322
00:14:02,442 --> 00:14:04,001
I was terrified.
323
00:14:04,077 --> 00:14:05,136
Anybody in there with you?
324
00:14:05,211 --> 00:14:06,235
One other woman.
325
00:14:06,579 --> 00:14:08,980
She came out of a stall and
asked what was going on.
326
00:14:09,048 --> 00:14:10,482
And then another woman ran in.
327
00:14:10,550 --> 00:14:12,348
How soon after you
did she come in?
328
00:14:12,418 --> 00:14:13,943
Right after the shooting.
329
00:14:14,020 --> 00:14:16,182
We heard a commotion
in the hallway,
330
00:14:16,255 --> 00:14:19,419
but we just stayed put until the
waiter said it was safe to come out.
331
00:14:19,492 --> 00:14:20,769
What happened
to the third woman?
332
00:14:20,793 --> 00:14:23,160
Don't know. It
was very confused.
333
00:14:23,229 --> 00:14:24,754
Can you describe her?
334
00:14:24,831 --> 00:14:25,924
Yes.
335
00:14:26,766 --> 00:14:30,999
Ann Taylor knock-off
pantsuit, wannabe Prada pumps
336
00:14:31,070 --> 00:14:34,598
and a leatherette copy of a
Coach portfolio bag in black.
337
00:14:34,674 --> 00:14:36,768
Very tacky. What
did she look like?
338
00:14:36,876 --> 00:14:42,679
Oh! She was about 5'7",
light brown hair, bangs.
339
00:14:43,449 --> 00:14:45,475
I noticed her
earlier eating alone.
340
00:14:45,551 --> 00:14:47,281
Why? Because
of the tacky outfit?
341
00:14:48,421 --> 00:14:51,914
I noticed the man in the Zegna
suit who tried to pick her up.
342
00:14:51,991 --> 00:14:55,792
He and another man were at the
table next to me and my husband.
343
00:14:55,862 --> 00:14:57,387
It wasn't hard, Mr. Patterson.
344
00:14:57,463 --> 00:14:58,974
We traced your pal
from his credit card,
345
00:14:58,998 --> 00:15:00,762
and he gave us your name.
346
00:15:00,833 --> 00:15:01,892
I better be careful.
347
00:15:01,968 --> 00:15:04,130
Wouldn't want my fiancée
to get the wrong idea.
348
00:15:04,203 --> 00:15:05,865
What idea is she
supposed to get?
349
00:15:05,938 --> 00:15:07,531
It was a gag.
350
00:15:07,607 --> 00:15:09,735
My buddy bet me I couldn't
have dessert with the lady.
351
00:15:09,809 --> 00:15:11,744
Did you get as far as
exchanging numbers?
352
00:15:11,811 --> 00:15:13,074
Not even a first name.
353
00:15:13,146 --> 00:15:14,910
Said she was busy and
pulled out some work.
354
00:15:14,981 --> 00:15:16,643
Really. Didn't
want to talk to me.
355
00:15:16,716 --> 00:15:18,275
What kind of work?
356
00:15:18,351 --> 00:15:22,288
Looked like party planning,
promotions, that kind of thing.
357
00:15:22,355 --> 00:15:24,654
Funmakers. That was
the name on the book.
358
00:15:24,724 --> 00:15:26,556
We're gonna need
your help with a sketch.
359
00:15:26,626 --> 00:15:27,924
I got to get back to work.
360
00:15:27,994 --> 00:15:29,690
We'd really appreciate it, Hal.
361
00:15:29,762 --> 00:15:31,697
And so would your fiancée.
362
00:15:32,498 --> 00:15:34,843
It looks like Lindsay Carson,
but it's not very flattering.
363
00:15:34,867 --> 00:15:35,926
What does she do here?
364
00:15:36,002 --> 00:15:38,202
She's a freelance coordinator,
handles corporate events.
365
00:15:38,271 --> 00:15:39,548
Do you know where
we can find her?
366
00:15:39,572 --> 00:15:41,803
Oh, let's see.
367
00:15:41,874 --> 00:15:45,038
She's in Chicago at a convention,
and she'll be back tomorrow.
368
00:15:45,111 --> 00:15:46,170
Is she in trouble?
369
00:15:46,245 --> 00:15:47,611
We just want to talk to her.
370
00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:49,842
Did she ever mention
if anybody in her family
371
00:15:49,916 --> 00:15:51,578
had been the victim
of a serious crime?
372
00:15:51,651 --> 00:15:52,812
No.
373
00:15:52,885 --> 00:15:54,163
I don't really
know her very well.
374
00:15:54,187 --> 00:15:55,831
She's only been working
for us a few months.
375
00:15:55,855 --> 00:15:57,153
She's not a talker.
376
00:15:57,223 --> 00:15:58,987
Do you know if she's
from around this area?
377
00:15:59,058 --> 00:16:00,390
I don't think so.
378
00:16:00,460 --> 00:16:01,985
Maurry hired her.
He read her resume,
379
00:16:02,061 --> 00:16:03,552
but he's in
Pittsburgh till Monday.
380
00:16:03,629 --> 00:16:04,995
Can we take a
look at that resume?
381
00:16:06,132 --> 00:16:08,761
You don't know
Maurry's filing system.
382
00:16:10,636 --> 00:16:12,502
Mayer's office faxed it over.
383
00:16:12,572 --> 00:16:15,838
It's a list of all the cases
the good doctor testified in,
384
00:16:15,908 --> 00:16:18,810
including the names of the
victims. None of them named Carson.
385
00:16:18,878 --> 00:16:20,972
That would be too easy.
386
00:16:21,047 --> 00:16:24,142
Dr. Mayer's been busy. There
must be over 100 cases here.
387
00:16:24,217 --> 00:16:25,742
One hundred and thirty-two.
388
00:16:25,818 --> 00:16:27,309
What's his batting average?
389
00:16:27,386 --> 00:16:30,879
Forty-three acquittals by
reason of mental defect.
390
00:16:30,957 --> 00:16:33,927
The doctor let these killers
walk into a padded cell.
391
00:16:33,993 --> 00:16:35,894
And then they walked home.
392
00:16:36,329 --> 00:16:38,423
Okay. According to the
state employment records,
393
00:16:38,498 --> 00:16:40,023
Lindsay Carson worked in Albany
394
00:16:40,099 --> 00:16:41,897
for six years
before moving here.
395
00:16:41,968 --> 00:16:45,769
Albany? Dr. Mayer
worked a case in Albany.
396
00:16:46,739 --> 00:16:49,538
People v. Rigg. Double homicide.
397
00:16:49,609 --> 00:16:52,636
The victims were Robert
Kort and Kathy Morris.
398
00:16:57,383 --> 00:17:00,751
My back was to the door. I
don't remember after that.
399
00:17:01,187 --> 00:17:03,088
I never saw who it was.
400
00:17:03,656 --> 00:17:05,534
Do you get a lot of
threats in your line of work?
401
00:17:05,558 --> 00:17:07,493
I mean, setting killers free?
402
00:17:08,327 --> 00:17:10,922
Nobody goes free.
They get treatment.
403
00:17:11,697 --> 00:17:13,859
But anonymous calls and letters.
404
00:17:13,933 --> 00:17:15,925
I've been doing
this over 20 years.
405
00:17:16,235 --> 00:17:18,363
The name Lindsay Carson
mean anything to you?
406
00:17:18,437 --> 00:17:20,099
Business or otherwise?
407
00:17:20,172 --> 00:17:21,470
No. Who is she?
408
00:17:21,541 --> 00:17:24,568
She's from Albany. You had a
case up there a couple of years ago.
409
00:17:24,644 --> 00:17:27,273
People v. Rigg. Guy
killed two people.
410
00:17:27,780 --> 00:17:30,011
Yes. His boss and a co-worker.
411
00:17:30,750 --> 00:17:32,013
He'd been fired.
412
00:17:32,084 --> 00:17:35,350
Being a defense witness, you
must have been very popular.
413
00:17:35,421 --> 00:17:38,823
People get emotional.
That's why I'm careful,
414
00:17:39,659 --> 00:17:42,254
but there's no reason anybody
in Albany would hold a grudge.
415
00:17:42,328 --> 00:17:43,694
How's that?
416
00:17:44,130 --> 00:17:47,259
The jury found Rigg
guilty. Life without parole.
417
00:17:49,268 --> 00:17:50,497
Thanks.
418
00:17:52,038 --> 00:17:55,167
Oh, Doctor, one more
thing. What's your fee?
419
00:17:56,275 --> 00:17:58,176
$30,000 to $60,000.
420
00:17:59,078 --> 00:18:01,707
If I was Rigg, I'd
ask for a refund.
421
00:18:02,515 --> 00:18:05,781
Rigg is in Attica. Guess
who was on his guest list?
422
00:18:08,287 --> 00:18:10,779
Lindsay Rigg
Carson. His daughter?
423
00:18:11,257 --> 00:18:13,158
We make her 10
feet from the scene
424
00:18:13,225 --> 00:18:15,820
five seconds after
the shooting stops.
425
00:18:15,895 --> 00:18:18,729
That's 10 feet too far and five
seconds too late for an arrest warrant.
426
00:18:18,798 --> 00:18:20,562
Even if you talk to
Judge Siedenburg?
427
00:18:20,633 --> 00:18:22,898
He's in the
hospital. Gallstones.
428
00:18:23,369 --> 00:18:26,134
I could talk to Judge Flores.
Search warrant good enough?
429
00:18:29,942 --> 00:18:32,571
I need you to open the storage
room for this detective. All right?
430
00:18:32,645 --> 00:18:35,444
Rey! Get a look at this.
It was under the bed.
431
00:18:35,514 --> 00:18:38,678
Court TV, Mayer
testifying at her father's trial.
432
00:18:39,285 --> 00:18:42,255
Mayer testifying
in Florida, in LA.
433
00:18:42,321 --> 00:18:44,847
Without Reason
by Dr. Leon Mayer.
434
00:18:44,924 --> 00:18:46,483
Looks like she has
the complete works.
435
00:18:46,559 --> 00:18:49,028
Yeah. Plus a bunch of
newspaper clippings of Mayer.
436
00:18:49,095 --> 00:18:51,121
Only thing missing is
the doll with the pins in it.
437
00:18:51,197 --> 00:18:53,166
I'd rather have the gun.
438
00:18:54,100 --> 00:18:56,331
Take a look at
this. Must be Rigg.
439
00:18:56,402 --> 00:18:58,200
What are you doing to my home?
440
00:18:58,270 --> 00:19:00,034
You can't just come
in here like this.
441
00:19:00,106 --> 00:19:02,598
Ms. Carson, we
have a search warrant.
442
00:19:02,675 --> 00:19:05,372
I don't care.
That's my property.
443
00:19:05,444 --> 00:19:07,174
Yeah. Well, now it's evidence.
444
00:19:07,246 --> 00:19:08,957
But if you want to make
sure we don't lose it,
445
00:19:08,981 --> 00:19:10,359
you're welcome to
come along with us.
446
00:19:10,383 --> 00:19:13,353
Once we're done, you can leave
and take this stuff back with you.
447
00:19:13,419 --> 00:19:15,251
I guess I don't have a choice.
448
00:19:15,321 --> 00:19:16,321
Then if you don't mind.
449
00:19:16,389 --> 00:19:17,499
We have to check and make sure
450
00:19:17,523 --> 00:19:18,734
you're not carrying
anything dangerous,
451
00:19:18,758 --> 00:19:21,387
like a hatpin. Officer, you
want to escort her, please.
452
00:19:22,662 --> 00:19:23,755
Miss?
453
00:19:24,730 --> 00:19:26,708
I told you, I don't know
where I was on Friday night.
454
00:19:26,732 --> 00:19:28,064
I've been working very hard.
455
00:19:28,134 --> 00:19:31,161
So, you really don't remember
where you ate dinner?
456
00:19:31,237 --> 00:19:32,364
Why is that so important?
457
00:19:32,438 --> 00:19:34,236
People saw you at
the Trident Restaurant
458
00:19:34,306 --> 00:19:36,468
on 9th Avenue around midnight.
459
00:19:37,143 --> 00:19:39,305
It's a mistake. I
never eat that late.
460
00:19:39,378 --> 00:19:42,644
Funny thing is, that's the same
time two people got shot there.
461
00:19:42,715 --> 00:19:44,274
One of them was killed.
462
00:19:44,350 --> 00:19:47,286
And the other one seems
to be a hobby of yours.
463
00:19:47,353 --> 00:19:48,821
Dr. Mayer?
464
00:19:48,888 --> 00:19:50,880
What? You think I shot him?
465
00:19:50,956 --> 00:19:53,152
It sure looks like you
got a problem with him.
466
00:19:53,225 --> 00:19:55,660
What, you blame him for
your father's conviction?
467
00:19:55,728 --> 00:19:59,597
Oh, I get it. My father got
railroaded for murder, now it's my turn.
468
00:20:00,299 --> 00:20:01,995
This girl's going
to be a lot of fun.
469
00:20:02,068 --> 00:20:03,245
She's been here almost an hour
470
00:20:03,269 --> 00:20:04,413
and she hasn't been Mirandized?
471
00:20:04,437 --> 00:20:06,181
We told her she can
leave whenever she wants.
472
00:20:06,205 --> 00:20:07,673
I'd like to keep her talking.
473
00:20:07,740 --> 00:20:09,936
I'd like to be sure whatever
she does say, we can use.
474
00:20:10,009 --> 00:20:11,375
Lieutenant.
475
00:20:18,818 --> 00:20:20,980
Ms. Carson, I'm
Lieutenant Van Buren.
476
00:20:21,153 --> 00:20:22,951
I'd like you to clear
up a few points.
477
00:20:23,022 --> 00:20:24,422
Do you own a gun? No.
478
00:20:24,490 --> 00:20:25,834
Have you been in
possession of one?
479
00:20:25,858 --> 00:20:26,882
No, of course not.
480
00:20:26,959 --> 00:20:29,087
Have you fired one at a
shooting range recently?
481
00:20:29,161 --> 00:20:30,424
No.
482
00:20:30,496 --> 00:20:32,124
Then maybe you can
explain why our lab
483
00:20:32,198 --> 00:20:34,531
found traces of
gunpowder in your portfolio.
484
00:20:38,304 --> 00:20:40,569
I've answered enough
questions. I'm leaving now.
485
00:20:40,639 --> 00:20:43,803
I want my portfolio back,
and I'm taking these with me.
486
00:20:43,876 --> 00:20:45,053
I'm afraid that's not possible.
487
00:20:45,077 --> 00:20:46,121
I'm not leaving without them.
488
00:20:46,145 --> 00:20:47,374
You're not leaving.
489
00:20:47,446 --> 00:20:49,278
Please, put those down.
490
00:20:49,348 --> 00:20:51,908
You're being arrested for
murder and attempted murder.
491
00:20:51,984 --> 00:20:54,419
What? You have the
right to remain silent.
492
00:20:54,487 --> 00:20:56,786
Anything you say can
be used in a court of law.
493
00:20:56,856 --> 00:20:59,451
You have the right to an
attorney. If you can't afford...
494
00:21:01,527 --> 00:21:04,190
This material serves
only one purpose,
495
00:21:04,263 --> 00:21:07,597
to make my client look
like a blue ribbon lunatic.
496
00:21:07,666 --> 00:21:08,895
If the shoe fits.
497
00:21:08,968 --> 00:21:11,369
It's just research. My
father needed an expert.
498
00:21:11,437 --> 00:21:13,997
Ms. Powell, would
you instruct your client?
499
00:21:14,073 --> 00:21:15,371
Yes, Your Honor.
500
00:21:15,975 --> 00:21:18,535
Ms. Carson assembled
these clippings on the doctor
501
00:21:18,611 --> 00:21:21,342
when she was thinking of
hiring him in her father's defense.
502
00:21:21,413 --> 00:21:23,006
And her client went
right on clipping
503
00:21:23,082 --> 00:21:24,914
long after her
father's trial was over.
504
00:21:24,984 --> 00:21:26,184
What was she researching then?
505
00:21:26,252 --> 00:21:28,016
She had an
interest in Dr. Mayer.
506
00:21:28,187 --> 00:21:30,156
It doesn't mean she
wanted to kill him.
507
00:21:30,222 --> 00:21:33,090
It's for a jury to decide
what she wanted.
508
00:21:33,159 --> 00:21:35,458
I'm going to allow this
material, Ms. Powell.
509
00:21:35,528 --> 00:21:39,522
Now for the other part of your
motion about the gunpowder residue?
510
00:21:39,598 --> 00:21:42,568
They had a premises
warrant for the apartment.
511
00:21:42,635 --> 00:21:44,729
Ms. Carson was in
the building hallway
512
00:21:44,804 --> 00:21:46,102
when they searched
her portfolio.
513
00:21:46,172 --> 00:21:48,903
The defendant voluntarily
handed it to the officers.
514
00:21:48,974 --> 00:21:50,374
They took it from me.
515
00:21:52,211 --> 00:21:54,646
What did they tell
you? Their exact words?
516
00:21:55,047 --> 00:21:57,983
They told me because I was
going to ride with them to the station,
517
00:21:58,050 --> 00:22:00,246
they had to check my
portfolio for anything dangerous.
518
00:22:00,319 --> 00:22:03,721
Assuming even a temporary
seizure was legitimate,
519
00:22:03,789 --> 00:22:07,055
People v. Clements allows
only an inventory of the contents,
520
00:22:07,126 --> 00:22:08,321
not a chemical analysis.
521
00:22:08,561 --> 00:22:10,996
The gunpowder residue
was apparent to the officers.
522
00:22:11,096 --> 00:22:13,224
How? Were these canine officers?
523
00:22:13,599 --> 00:22:14,876
The police have
every right to...
524
00:22:14,900 --> 00:22:17,597
To check for weapons
for their own safety.
525
00:22:17,670 --> 00:22:20,333
They don't need a
microscope to do that.
526
00:22:20,406 --> 00:22:21,772
The gunpowder is out.
527
00:22:21,841 --> 00:22:24,140
Then, Your Honor, I move
to dismiss the charges.
528
00:22:24,210 --> 00:22:25,872
The People have
no direct evidence.
529
00:22:25,945 --> 00:22:28,710
We can still place her in the
ladies' room right after the shooting.
530
00:22:29,014 --> 00:22:31,813
Come back when you can
place her in the men's room.
531
00:22:31,884 --> 00:22:35,844
The motion is granted.
Charges are dismissed.
532
00:22:38,824 --> 00:22:41,851
Don't these cops know,
you got a premises warrant,
533
00:22:41,927 --> 00:22:45,295
you bring the suspect into the
premises you want to search her.
534
00:22:45,364 --> 00:22:47,765
And procedure tells
them to keep a suspect
535
00:22:47,833 --> 00:22:49,859
outside the premises
they're searching.
536
00:22:49,935 --> 00:22:51,426
This wasn't their fault.
537
00:22:51,503 --> 00:22:52,869
Of course not.
538
00:22:52,938 --> 00:22:55,498
I hope somebody's putting
this case back together.
539
00:22:55,574 --> 00:22:57,975
The police are pulling her
travel records, phone records,
540
00:22:58,043 --> 00:22:59,978
if she stalked Mayer,
she might've left tracks.
541
00:23:00,045 --> 00:23:01,638
What does the doctor say?
542
00:23:01,714 --> 00:23:03,683
He doesn't remember
Carson or the shooting.
543
00:23:03,749 --> 00:23:06,189
He'd just gotten out of the ICU
when the police talked to him.
544
00:23:06,218 --> 00:23:08,153
How's he feeling now?
545
00:23:09,889 --> 00:23:13,382
I told the police. I never
heard of Lindsay Carson.
546
00:23:13,859 --> 00:23:15,327
You say she kept a file on me?
547
00:23:15,628 --> 00:23:18,120
Apparently she blames you
for her father going to prison.
548
00:23:18,530 --> 00:23:19,657
She said he was railroaded.
549
00:23:19,732 --> 00:23:21,826
Look, I did everything
I could for Mr. Rigg.
550
00:23:21,901 --> 00:23:23,062
The jury was out for blood.
551
00:23:23,569 --> 00:23:26,835
I can understand their feelings.
He executed two people.
552
00:23:26,906 --> 00:23:30,001
He was dissociative. He had
no idea what he was doing.
553
00:23:30,075 --> 00:23:33,375
After he was fired, he had what
I describe as a psychic overload.
554
00:23:34,413 --> 00:23:35,642
If you say so.
555
00:23:37,449 --> 00:23:39,247
Have you even read the case?
556
00:23:41,620 --> 00:23:43,452
Arthur Rigg had been an employee
557
00:23:43,522 --> 00:23:46,185
of Pine Mountain
Fabricating for 18 years.
558
00:23:46,859 --> 00:23:50,227
He was fired on a Friday
after his shift. He snapped.
559
00:23:50,829 --> 00:23:53,196
He took a .38 out
of his glove box,
560
00:23:53,265 --> 00:23:56,292
and he shot his boss and his
boss's secretary in a parking lot.
561
00:23:57,069 --> 00:23:59,868
He didn't remember
anything for the next two days.
562
00:23:59,939 --> 00:24:02,670
That's classic
dissociative behavior.
563
00:24:02,741 --> 00:24:04,505
Rigg used a .38?
564
00:24:05,577 --> 00:24:08,012
Lindsay Carson shot you
with the same caliber gun.
565
00:24:09,581 --> 00:24:12,210
Not surprising. It's symbolic.
566
00:24:12,451 --> 00:24:16,320
Or just practical. Do you know
if the gun was ever recovered?
567
00:24:19,959 --> 00:24:22,155
Because Rigg still
has appeals pending,
568
00:24:22,227 --> 00:24:25,129
Albany police wouldn't release
the actual slugs Rigg used.
569
00:24:25,197 --> 00:24:26,426
They sent macro photos.
570
00:24:26,498 --> 00:24:28,990
Will they do? I can make
a phone call. They're fine.
571
00:24:29,068 --> 00:24:32,232
I checked them against your
slugs from Mayer and Garner.
572
00:24:32,304 --> 00:24:34,102
The good news is,
573
00:24:34,173 --> 00:24:36,540
same number of lands
and grooves, same pitch.
574
00:24:36,608 --> 00:24:38,042
They were fired
from the same gun.
575
00:24:38,110 --> 00:24:39,806
The bad news is,
576
00:24:39,878 --> 00:24:42,939
the slugs from the restaurant
have too many secondary marks.
577
00:24:43,015 --> 00:24:44,540
Three went through a metal door.
578
00:24:44,616 --> 00:24:47,677
Two were dug out of the
wall, and the sixth struck bone.
579
00:24:47,753 --> 00:24:49,517
So, I put you on
the stand and...
580
00:24:49,588 --> 00:24:52,080
I'd have to say the
match was 60%.
581
00:24:52,157 --> 00:24:53,853
You get me the gun,
we're in business.
582
00:24:53,926 --> 00:24:55,417
That's not likely.
583
00:24:56,061 --> 00:24:58,530
She shot Mayer
with her father's gun?
584
00:24:58,597 --> 00:25:00,566
Freud must be
having a good laugh.
585
00:25:00,632 --> 00:25:03,124
Unless we prove it,
so will Lindsay Carson.
586
00:25:03,969 --> 00:25:07,235
Her father must know where
that gun ended up two years ago.
587
00:25:07,306 --> 00:25:09,104
According to Mayer,
Rigg went blank
588
00:25:09,174 --> 00:25:11,439
for two days after the shooting.
589
00:25:11,510 --> 00:25:14,639
Well, maybe we
can jog his memory.
590
00:25:14,713 --> 00:25:17,205
Who was the riding
A.D.A. in Albany?
591
00:25:18,550 --> 00:25:20,348
A deal for Arthur Rigg?
592
00:25:20,419 --> 00:25:22,183
What I'm asking
isn't unreasonable.
593
00:25:22,254 --> 00:25:24,849
If he cooperates with us,
you give him a shot at parole
594
00:25:24,923 --> 00:25:26,516
after 25 years.
595
00:25:26,592 --> 00:25:27,787
If he lives that long.
596
00:25:27,860 --> 00:25:29,237
He's lucky he lived this long.
597
00:25:29,261 --> 00:25:31,253
I asked for the death penalty.
598
00:25:31,330 --> 00:25:35,062
Robert Kort had four kids. Kathy
Morris was seven weeks pregnant.
599
00:25:35,134 --> 00:25:37,729
Rigg has a history of
drinking and brawling.
600
00:25:37,803 --> 00:25:41,205
As far as my constituents
are concerned, I lost that case.
601
00:25:41,273 --> 00:25:42,707
What will your
constituents think
602
00:25:42,775 --> 00:25:44,437
if you let another
killer walk free?
603
00:25:44,943 --> 00:25:46,935
That case is your problem.
604
00:25:47,679 --> 00:25:49,113
It wouldn't be anybody's problem
605
00:25:49,181 --> 00:25:51,275
if your cops had
found Rigg's gun.
606
00:25:51,350 --> 00:25:53,342
That's hardly a fair assessment.
607
00:25:53,419 --> 00:25:56,446
Lindsay Carson would've
found another gun to do the job.
608
00:25:56,522 --> 00:25:59,981
By the time we're through, the
media won't care about fairness.
609
00:26:00,059 --> 00:26:02,119
Especially if Rigg gets
anywhere with his appeals.
610
00:26:02,594 --> 00:26:04,620
He already lost
his direct appeal.
611
00:26:04,696 --> 00:26:06,665
And now he's
writing his own briefs.
612
00:26:06,732 --> 00:26:09,099
Have you seen Acevedo v. US?
613
00:26:09,168 --> 00:26:11,330
For a jailhouse
lawyer, Rigg isn't bad.
614
00:26:11,403 --> 00:26:14,498
If a judge ever gets around to
reading his brief, he might just prevail.
615
00:26:14,573 --> 00:26:16,269
Ms. Solvan.
616
00:26:16,341 --> 00:26:18,503
If we convict Lindsay Carson,
617
00:26:18,577 --> 00:26:21,240
there's nothing I'd like
more than to give the credit
618
00:26:21,313 --> 00:26:23,612
to the Albany County
District Attorney's office.
619
00:26:32,825 --> 00:26:34,987
I was finished with
this case a year ago.
620
00:26:35,060 --> 00:26:36,995
When I ran out of money.
621
00:26:37,062 --> 00:26:39,361
I did the trial. I did
the direct appeal.
622
00:26:39,431 --> 00:26:41,457
That's all I was required to do.
623
00:26:41,533 --> 00:26:43,798
Now I drive all the way
from Albany to listen to this?
624
00:26:43,869 --> 00:26:45,497
We're prepared
to drop murder one
625
00:26:45,571 --> 00:26:47,540
down to murder two
against his daughter,
626
00:26:47,606 --> 00:26:50,633
and we're giving your client an
opportunity you haven't been able to offer.
627
00:26:50,709 --> 00:26:52,541
An opportunity to
sell out his daughter
628
00:26:52,611 --> 00:26:55,240
for a chance at
parole in 23 years?
629
00:26:55,948 --> 00:26:58,349
He's got a better shot
claiming I screwed up.
630
00:26:58,417 --> 00:26:59,749
I read your brief.
631
00:26:59,818 --> 00:27:01,810
I wouldn't pack
your suitcase just yet.
632
00:27:01,887 --> 00:27:05,585
Maybe you haven't read
Acevedo v. US down in New York.
633
00:27:05,657 --> 00:27:07,990
You should give the
dissent a closer read.
634
00:27:08,060 --> 00:27:09,585
You're here to stay, Mr. Rigg.
635
00:27:09,661 --> 00:27:11,755
You tell us how your daughter
ended up with your gun,
636
00:27:11,830 --> 00:27:13,059
you get a chance at parole.
637
00:27:13,132 --> 00:27:14,930
Parole after 15 years?
638
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:16,992
You're lucky to
get any offer at all.
639
00:27:17,436 --> 00:27:20,031
I wouldn't wish
this life on anybody.
640
00:27:20,105 --> 00:27:21,767
Especially my own kid.
641
00:27:22,407 --> 00:27:24,842
Even if I could answer
your questions, I wouldn't.
642
00:27:26,211 --> 00:27:28,476
You can all go to hell.
643
00:27:28,547 --> 00:27:29,742
Guard!
644
00:27:36,221 --> 00:27:38,019
Well, it was worth a shot.
645
00:27:38,590 --> 00:27:40,889
Niagara Falls is 45 minutes
away. You ever been?
646
00:27:40,959 --> 00:27:44,054
When I was nine, my
brothers tried to push me in.
647
00:27:44,129 --> 00:27:46,462
Maybe we don't need Rigg
to connect her to the gun.
648
00:27:46,532 --> 00:27:48,558
If Albany Homicide
couldn't find the gun...
649
00:27:48,634 --> 00:27:51,570
They don't know what we know.
They tracked Rigg, not his daughter.
650
00:27:54,706 --> 00:27:55,867
Monday, May 7.
651
00:27:55,941 --> 00:27:58,001
County jail records have
Lindsay visiting her father
652
00:27:58,076 --> 00:27:59,840
six hours after he surrendered.
653
00:27:59,912 --> 00:28:01,312
What time Monday?
654
00:28:01,380 --> 00:28:03,281
3:30 in the afternoon.
655
00:28:03,348 --> 00:28:05,283
Well, her work has
her checking out
656
00:28:05,350 --> 00:28:06,978
Monday at 1:00 in the afternoon,
657
00:28:07,052 --> 00:28:09,544
and she didn't come back
in until Tuesday afternoon.
658
00:28:09,621 --> 00:28:11,647
Monday, May 7?
659
00:28:11,723 --> 00:28:14,124
Wherever she went,
she had a full tank of gas.
660
00:28:14,193 --> 00:28:16,560
$18 worth, Monday, in Albany.
661
00:28:16,628 --> 00:28:18,961
I wonder what else she charged?
662
00:28:22,834 --> 00:28:27,863
Tuesday, Yellow Shutters Motel.
Binghamton, New York. $2.50.
663
00:28:27,940 --> 00:28:30,842
Must be an incidental
charge. Phone call maybe.
664
00:28:30,909 --> 00:28:33,174
She probably paid
for the room in cash.
665
00:28:33,245 --> 00:28:36,010
So, after she talked to her
father in the lock-up in Albany,
666
00:28:36,081 --> 00:28:37,549
right away she jumps in her car
667
00:28:37,616 --> 00:28:40,051
and drives two
hours to Binghamton.
668
00:28:40,118 --> 00:28:41,663
You guys want to check
out the accommodations
669
00:28:41,687 --> 00:28:43,178
at the Yellow Shutters Motel?
670
00:28:43,255 --> 00:28:45,520
We'll break out our thermals.
671
00:28:48,694 --> 00:28:51,721
Here it is. May 7.
672
00:28:51,797 --> 00:28:57,293
Lindsay Carson. Room
103. New York tags.
673
00:28:58,370 --> 00:29:02,239
Charge was for a phone call. Must've
been posted after she checked out.
674
00:29:02,307 --> 00:29:03,900
You have those phone records?
675
00:29:03,976 --> 00:29:08,346
From two years ago? We
get rid of that stuff after a year.
676
00:29:08,413 --> 00:29:12,373
Weird though. We were
pretty empty that night.
677
00:29:12,451 --> 00:29:14,852
I don't know why
they stuck her in 103.
678
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:16,752
It's right beside the kitchen.
679
00:29:16,822 --> 00:29:17,822
Maybe she asked for it?
680
00:29:19,291 --> 00:29:21,920
Who used the room
the night before?
681
00:29:24,263 --> 00:29:27,324
Oh, here we go. Gerald Foster.
682
00:29:28,500 --> 00:29:31,834
Him I remember. Almost
had to call the cops.
683
00:29:33,205 --> 00:29:35,674
Borrowed a screwdriver from me.
684
00:29:35,741 --> 00:29:38,142
Then he nearly took
my eye out with it.
685
00:29:38,210 --> 00:29:39,269
How come?
686
00:29:39,344 --> 00:29:43,907
I wanted a deposit on the
screwdriver, in case he lost it.
687
00:29:44,883 --> 00:29:47,443
The guy just went off on me.
688
00:29:47,519 --> 00:29:48,748
You get his license tags?
689
00:29:54,660 --> 00:29:59,496
Foster said he needed
the screwdriver to fix his car.
690
00:29:59,598 --> 00:30:04,093
After the Carson lady checked
out, I come to find out, uh,
691
00:30:05,170 --> 00:30:07,935
the space heater in
the room got broken.
692
00:30:08,006 --> 00:30:10,874
I think Foster tried
to take it apart.
693
00:30:11,076 --> 00:30:14,274
Lennie, it was Rigg's car.
694
00:30:16,548 --> 00:30:17,792
You going to keep arresting her
695
00:30:17,816 --> 00:30:20,809
until you find a judge stupid
enough to let you get away with it?
696
00:30:20,886 --> 00:30:22,130
We've got her at the scene.
697
00:30:22,154 --> 00:30:23,588
We've got a decent
ballistics match.
698
00:30:23,655 --> 00:30:24,679
To what?
699
00:30:24,756 --> 00:30:26,691
To a gun she didn't
have access to?
700
00:30:26,758 --> 00:30:29,193
You mean the gun she
removed from the space heater
701
00:30:29,261 --> 00:30:32,891
of room 103 at the Yellow
Shutters Motel two years ago?
702
00:30:37,469 --> 00:30:38,562
What's your evidence?
703
00:30:38,637 --> 00:30:40,448
A registration book
which shows your client
704
00:30:40,472 --> 00:30:42,998
and her father stayed in the
same room on consecutive nights.
705
00:30:44,343 --> 00:30:45,834
Another coincidence?
706
00:30:45,911 --> 00:30:48,437
The way they keep piling
up, it's enough to bury her.
707
00:30:48,513 --> 00:30:51,005
Not if you expect a jury
to vote on a capital charge.
708
00:30:51,083 --> 00:30:53,917
We'll argue inevitable discovery,
and get the gunpowder back in.
709
00:31:03,729 --> 00:31:05,425
You have an offer?
710
00:31:05,497 --> 00:31:07,898
Murder two. Assault
one. 25-to-life.
711
00:31:12,204 --> 00:31:13,695
Give us a day?
712
00:31:16,074 --> 00:31:18,953
It's still a mystery why she chose
to wreak her vengeance on Mayer.
713
00:31:18,977 --> 00:31:22,277
In my book, her father's
lawyer is a better candidate.
714
00:31:22,347 --> 00:31:24,248
Better a doctor than
a fellow attorney.
715
00:31:24,916 --> 00:31:28,648
We got Carson's answer.
She wants to change her plea.
716
00:31:32,157 --> 00:31:34,820
Not guilty by reason of
mental disease or defect.
717
00:31:35,060 --> 00:31:37,928
She's claiming she was
dissociative when she shot Mayer.
718
00:31:37,996 --> 00:31:39,089
Her father's defense.
719
00:31:40,232 --> 00:31:41,530
Maybe it's genetic.
720
00:31:48,507 --> 00:31:50,237
I don't remember anything.
721
00:31:50,909 --> 00:31:51,933
Nothing?
722
00:31:52,010 --> 00:31:53,171
Mmm-mmm.
723
00:31:54,212 --> 00:31:58,616
Ms. Carson, the court ordered you
to answer all my questions honestly.
724
00:31:59,851 --> 00:32:02,150
I don't remember where I went,
725
00:32:02,220 --> 00:32:04,314
how I got there or what I did.
726
00:32:04,389 --> 00:32:06,949
I don't remember anything
till I woke up the next morning.
727
00:32:07,025 --> 00:32:09,460
What's the last thing
you do remember?
728
00:32:09,528 --> 00:32:12,862
I found out where Mayer was
staying, and I went to talk to him.
729
00:32:14,366 --> 00:32:15,366
With a gun?
730
00:32:15,434 --> 00:32:16,458
Mmm.
731
00:32:16,535 --> 00:32:18,401
The city's dangerous.
732
00:32:20,705 --> 00:32:22,901
I saw him outside his hotel.
733
00:32:25,143 --> 00:32:27,669
And I don't remember
anything after that.
734
00:32:28,146 --> 00:32:30,445
You were very
interested in Dr. Mayer.
735
00:32:33,151 --> 00:32:35,780
Because of him, my father will
be in prison the rest of his life.
736
00:32:36,588 --> 00:32:37,988
What did Dr. Mayer do?
737
00:32:38,957 --> 00:32:40,983
He screwed up.
738
00:32:41,059 --> 00:32:45,326
He got to Albany three hours
before he was supposed to testify.
739
00:32:45,397 --> 00:32:48,265
He only spent half an
hour examining my father,
740
00:32:49,634 --> 00:32:51,262
and on the stand he confused him
741
00:32:51,336 --> 00:32:53,896
with another one
of his patients,
742
00:32:53,972 --> 00:32:56,339
and we mortgaged
the house to pay him.
743
00:32:56,641 --> 00:32:58,803
He was supposed
to save my father.
744
00:32:59,377 --> 00:33:00,777
How?
745
00:33:02,614 --> 00:33:06,107
By convincing the jury that he
didn't know what he was doing.
746
00:33:06,184 --> 00:33:07,880
It wasn't his fault.
747
00:33:07,953 --> 00:33:09,819
Just like this
wasn't your fault?
748
00:33:12,557 --> 00:33:14,583
My father is a very good person.
749
00:33:15,427 --> 00:33:17,658
He is. He just snapped.
750
00:33:21,500 --> 00:33:25,733
He had worked so hard for those
people, and they just threw him away.
751
00:33:27,939 --> 00:33:30,431
If only the jury knew what
my father was really like.
752
00:33:30,509 --> 00:33:33,479
And it was Dr. Mayer's
job to tell them.
753
00:33:33,545 --> 00:33:35,707
What did you feel when you
knew he was coming to town?
754
00:33:36,281 --> 00:33:38,773
I don't know. I just went numb.
755
00:33:39,951 --> 00:33:42,147
Mr. Rigg retained me
two days before the trial.
756
00:33:42,220 --> 00:33:43,745
They expected miracles.
757
00:33:43,822 --> 00:33:47,156
She's absolutely convinced
her father's not responsible.
758
00:33:47,225 --> 00:33:49,319
I don't care what her beef is.
759
00:33:49,928 --> 00:33:51,089
Do you buy this as a defense?
760
00:33:51,930 --> 00:33:53,762
Dissociation disorder?
761
00:33:54,132 --> 00:33:56,761
Even if I accepted
it as a legal defense,
762
00:33:56,835 --> 00:33:58,827
the symptoms are
too easy to mimic.
763
00:33:58,904 --> 00:34:00,532
How do you prove or
disprove memory loss?
764
00:34:00,605 --> 00:34:04,372
No offense, Dr. Skoda, but
this isn't your area of expertise.
765
00:34:04,442 --> 00:34:06,206
I mean, as much as
I wish it weren't so,
766
00:34:06,278 --> 00:34:09,146
Ms. Carson meets all
the criteria for dissociation.
767
00:34:09,214 --> 00:34:11,615
Those criteria are
completely subjective,
768
00:34:11,683 --> 00:34:13,628
and you gotta believe
whatever the defendant tells you.
769
00:34:13,652 --> 00:34:15,382
Well, my studies show otherwise.
770
00:34:15,453 --> 00:34:18,719
The disorder manifests
itself very specifically
771
00:34:18,790 --> 00:34:23,251
through irrational violence
brought on by emotional catalyst,
772
00:34:23,328 --> 00:34:26,423
accompanied by memory
loss, lack of affect and remorse.
773
00:34:26,498 --> 00:34:30,401
If that's all it takes to duck a murder
charge, we're all out of business.
774
00:34:30,468 --> 00:34:31,697
Doctors.
775
00:34:32,504 --> 00:34:34,132
The question is very simple.
776
00:34:34,506 --> 00:34:36,099
At the time she fired the gun,
777
00:34:36,174 --> 00:34:39,042
did Lindsay Carson appreciate
the consequences of her action,
778
00:34:39,110 --> 00:34:40,635
and did she know it was wrong?
779
00:34:41,112 --> 00:34:42,375
Yes. No.
780
00:34:42,681 --> 00:34:43,944
Terrific.
781
00:34:48,687 --> 00:34:52,681
She ran into the restroom just
moments after the shooting stopped.
782
00:34:52,757 --> 00:34:55,750
She was perspiring
and breathing heavily.
783
00:34:56,628 --> 00:34:58,597
What happened next?
784
00:34:58,663 --> 00:35:01,963
We stood away from the
door, the three of us, and waited.
785
00:35:02,033 --> 00:35:05,333
The other woman kept saying
"Oh, my God," over and over.
786
00:35:05,403 --> 00:35:06,427
I told her to be quiet
787
00:35:06,504 --> 00:35:08,824
so whoever did the shooting
wouldn't know we were in there.
788
00:35:09,207 --> 00:35:12,700
While you were waiting, did the
defendant do anything out of the ordinary?
789
00:35:13,745 --> 00:35:14,974
No.
790
00:35:15,313 --> 00:35:16,872
Thank you.
791
00:35:18,183 --> 00:35:21,210
Ms. Carson never said
a word, isn't that right?
792
00:35:21,286 --> 00:35:22,345
Yes. I think so.
793
00:35:22,420 --> 00:35:24,582
She wasn't screaming
hysterically, was she?
794
00:35:24,656 --> 00:35:27,990
No. She just stood there
quietly the whole time?
795
00:35:28,226 --> 00:35:29,285
Yes.
796
00:35:29,361 --> 00:35:31,853
Without displaying any
emotion, isn't that right?
797
00:35:31,930 --> 00:35:32,989
Yes.
798
00:35:34,532 --> 00:35:38,162
Didn't you think that was
strange, given the circumstance?
799
00:35:40,038 --> 00:35:41,097
Yes.
800
00:35:43,375 --> 00:35:44,502
Thank you.
801
00:35:46,711 --> 00:35:49,180
Since she wasn't seen
leaving through the side door
802
00:35:49,247 --> 00:35:50,681
or through the dining room,
803
00:35:50,749 --> 00:35:53,583
we concluded that she
ran into the ladies' room.
804
00:35:53,652 --> 00:35:56,247
That was later confirmed
by two witnesses.
805
00:35:56,921 --> 00:35:58,466
In your opinion, would
she have been seen
806
00:35:58,490 --> 00:36:01,358
if she'd left through the side
door or through the dining room?
807
00:36:01,426 --> 00:36:03,395
Yes, most likely.
808
00:36:03,461 --> 00:36:05,089
What if any conclusion
809
00:36:05,163 --> 00:36:07,203
did you draw from her
running into the ladies' room?
810
00:36:07,866 --> 00:36:09,698
That it was pretty
quick thinking.
811
00:36:10,568 --> 00:36:11,900
Thank you.
812
00:36:14,639 --> 00:36:17,541
My client has been charged
with shooting her victims
813
00:36:17,609 --> 00:36:20,704
in the busy men's room
of a crowded restaurant.
814
00:36:20,779 --> 00:36:23,044
Is that also evidence
of her quick thinking?
815
00:36:23,281 --> 00:36:24,305
I don't know.
816
00:36:24,382 --> 00:36:26,977
It was better than shooting
them in the dining room.
817
00:36:27,052 --> 00:36:28,452
Move to strike, Your Honor.
818
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:32,355
The jury will disregard
the witness's last statement.
819
00:36:32,991 --> 00:36:36,223
During questioning,
Ms. Carson told you that
820
00:36:36,294 --> 00:36:38,661
she didn't remember
where she was
821
00:36:38,730 --> 00:36:40,460
on Friday night,
isn't that right?
822
00:36:41,866 --> 00:36:42,959
Yes.
823
00:36:43,034 --> 00:36:45,833
Did she say anything to you
to contradict that statement?
824
00:36:47,505 --> 00:36:48,529
No.
825
00:36:48,606 --> 00:36:52,668
And you were with her
prior to and after her arrest
826
00:36:52,744 --> 00:36:55,339
for nearly five
hours, isn't that right?
827
00:36:56,981 --> 00:36:58,142
Yes.
828
00:36:58,216 --> 00:36:59,309
Thank you.
829
00:37:01,686 --> 00:37:03,712
That was Briscoe on the phone.
830
00:37:03,788 --> 00:37:05,848
Feels bad about the
way his testimony went.
831
00:37:06,858 --> 00:37:09,418
We say she's cold blooded,
they say she was in a trance.
832
00:37:09,494 --> 00:37:10,723
Tomato, tomato.
833
00:37:10,795 --> 00:37:12,889
There's nothing
Briscoe could've done.
834
00:37:12,964 --> 00:37:14,626
It's Friday, Jamie. Go home.
835
00:37:15,266 --> 00:37:16,711
I got the pleadings
from Rigg's trial,
836
00:37:16,735 --> 00:37:20,035
to see if his daughter's beef
with Mayer had any rational basis.
837
00:37:20,105 --> 00:37:21,129
And?
838
00:37:21,506 --> 00:37:23,737
It seems she had a better
case against the judge.
839
00:37:23,808 --> 00:37:25,242
The defense asked
for a continuance
840
00:37:25,310 --> 00:37:26,750
so Mayer could
prepare his testimony.
841
00:37:26,778 --> 00:37:27,802
The judge denied it.
842
00:37:27,879 --> 00:37:31,316
Fourth amendment due process
violation. Tailor-made for an appeal.
843
00:37:31,382 --> 00:37:33,544
That's just it. I looked
at Rigg's appeals.
844
00:37:33,618 --> 00:37:35,587
They never argued due process.
845
00:37:35,653 --> 00:37:38,589
Rigg is pretty sharp. He
wouldn't have overlooked it.
846
00:37:40,125 --> 00:37:41,650
Track down his lawyer.
847
00:37:45,730 --> 00:37:48,256
You think I'm an idiot? Of
course it's grounds for an appeal.
848
00:37:48,533 --> 00:37:50,559
Funny it didn't find
its way into a brief.
849
00:37:51,636 --> 00:37:53,070
What're you accusing me of?
850
00:37:53,138 --> 00:37:56,836
You gave a less-than-zealous
representation of an unpopular defendant.
851
00:37:56,908 --> 00:37:58,786
Maybe the ethics committee
should look into this.
852
00:37:58,810 --> 00:38:01,678
He got a better defense
than he deserved.
853
00:38:01,746 --> 00:38:03,305
Look, I told Rigg
and his daughter
854
00:38:03,381 --> 00:38:05,213
we had a good due process claim,
855
00:38:05,283 --> 00:38:06,945
but we needed
Mayer to back it up.
856
00:38:07,018 --> 00:38:08,077
What was the problem?
857
00:38:08,253 --> 00:38:09,414
Mayer refused to help.
858
00:38:09,487 --> 00:38:11,422
Did he say why? No explanation.
859
00:38:11,489 --> 00:38:12,513
When was this?
860
00:38:12,590 --> 00:38:14,252
A year ago. Then
Rigg told me to drop it.
861
00:38:14,325 --> 00:38:16,191
And that was the end
of my involvement.
862
00:38:16,661 --> 00:38:18,755
You have the
transcripts of Rigg's trial?
863
00:38:18,930 --> 00:38:20,489
If Mayer wouldn't
help with the appeal,
864
00:38:20,565 --> 00:38:23,262
it gives Carson a whole
other motive to shoot him.
865
00:38:23,334 --> 00:38:25,997
If this woman had
been in touch with him,
866
00:38:26,070 --> 00:38:27,936
why did Mayer say
he never heard of her?
867
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:32,099
Maybe for the same reason he didn't
want anything to do with Rigg's appeal.
868
00:38:32,243 --> 00:38:34,075
He's hiding something?
869
00:38:34,145 --> 00:38:36,410
The psychology profession.
870
00:38:37,482 --> 00:38:38,780
Good night.
871
00:38:39,384 --> 00:38:42,445
Jack. Mayer's testimony.
872
00:38:48,092 --> 00:38:49,390
This was no mistake.
873
00:38:49,460 --> 00:38:51,759
There's only one way
he could've known.
874
00:38:51,830 --> 00:38:53,822
Find out where
Mayer is, fly him in.
875
00:38:53,898 --> 00:38:56,458
I don't see him volunteering
to take the stand.
876
00:38:56,534 --> 00:38:58,901
Tell him we need to
put a face on the crime.
877
00:38:58,970 --> 00:39:02,498
Tell him we'll subpoena
him. Just get him into court.
878
00:39:04,342 --> 00:39:05,953
I spent two months
in the hospital.
879
00:39:05,977 --> 00:39:08,811
I have an hour of
physical therapy every day.
880
00:39:10,281 --> 00:39:11,521
I suppose, though, I was lucky.
881
00:39:11,583 --> 00:39:13,745
Luckier, certainly,
than Mr. Garner.
882
00:39:14,686 --> 00:39:18,020
Were you aware that the
defendant holds you responsible
883
00:39:18,089 --> 00:39:19,955
for her father's conviction?
884
00:39:20,024 --> 00:39:21,515
No, not until recently.
885
00:39:22,393 --> 00:39:25,886
In Dr. Skoda's
videotaped interview,
886
00:39:25,964 --> 00:39:27,990
she claims that you
were unprepared,
887
00:39:28,766 --> 00:39:31,463
that you made factual
errors during the testimony,
888
00:39:31,536 --> 00:39:34,870
that you confused her father's
case with another. Is that true?
889
00:39:34,939 --> 00:39:36,498
I was prepared.
890
00:39:36,574 --> 00:39:39,134
I made one misstatement,
which I corrected immediately.
891
00:39:39,844 --> 00:39:42,211
What was the gist of
your testimony at that trial?
892
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:43,942
That Arthur Rigg
committed his crimes
893
00:39:44,015 --> 00:39:46,143
while suffering from
dissociative disorder.
894
00:39:46,217 --> 00:39:48,311
What symptoms did he exhibit?
895
00:39:48,386 --> 00:39:51,447
Sudden and irrational
violence, memory loss.
896
00:39:51,522 --> 00:39:53,388
How serious was his memory loss?
897
00:39:53,491 --> 00:39:54,802
Well, he couldn't
remember the shooting
898
00:39:54,826 --> 00:39:56,604
or anything that happened
in the next two days.
899
00:39:56,628 --> 00:39:58,426
And you believed him? Oh, yes.
900
00:39:58,897 --> 00:40:02,425
So, he would have
no memory of his stay
901
00:40:02,500 --> 00:40:05,026
at the Yellow Shutters
Motel in Binghamton,
902
00:40:05,103 --> 00:40:06,833
the two nights
after the shooting?
903
00:40:09,240 --> 00:40:10,264
That's right.
904
00:40:13,611 --> 00:40:15,546
I refer to People's 16.
905
00:40:17,048 --> 00:40:21,713
The grand jury testimony of the
manager of the Yellow Shutters Motel.
906
00:40:23,054 --> 00:40:25,489
I'd like you to read
the highlighted portion.
907
00:40:33,798 --> 00:40:36,165
"I remember him clearly because
the day after he checked in
908
00:40:36,234 --> 00:40:37,793
"he threatened me
with a screwdriver."
909
00:40:41,506 --> 00:40:42,940
People's 43.
910
00:40:43,942 --> 00:40:48,107
This is a transcript of your
testimony at the trial of Arthur Rigg.
911
00:40:49,914 --> 00:40:53,043
Again, read the
highlighted portion.
912
00:41:02,794 --> 00:41:04,729
Dr. Mayer, please
read the passage.
913
00:41:08,933 --> 00:41:12,233
"Mr. Rigg exhibited classic
dissociative reactions.
914
00:41:12,303 --> 00:41:14,795
"Trance-like behavior
over a period of two days,
915
00:41:14,872 --> 00:41:18,331
"instances of irrational
violence, including the shooting..."
916
00:41:20,511 --> 00:41:21,535
Please finish, Doctor.
917
00:41:23,514 --> 00:41:26,541
"and the attack
with the screwdriver."
918
00:41:28,820 --> 00:41:31,221
This is the misstatement
that you referred to earlier?
919
00:41:31,289 --> 00:41:32,313
Yes.
920
00:41:40,365 --> 00:41:41,799
How did you know
about the attack?
921
00:41:46,137 --> 00:41:48,265
Answer the question, Doctor.
922
00:41:50,174 --> 00:41:51,665
Mr. Rigg told me.
923
00:41:52,076 --> 00:41:54,204
Even though he'd
lost his memory?
924
00:42:03,388 --> 00:42:05,118
Permission to treat as hostile.
925
00:42:06,557 --> 00:42:07,957
Go ahead.
926
00:42:09,127 --> 00:42:11,323
Isn't it true that Mr. Rigg
had no memory loss?
927
00:42:11,829 --> 00:42:13,627
He had some loss of memory.
928
00:42:13,698 --> 00:42:14,938
He wasn't dissociative, was he?
929
00:42:14,966 --> 00:42:16,093
I stand by my diagnosis.
930
00:42:16,167 --> 00:42:17,367
You perjured yourself, Doctor.
931
00:42:17,402 --> 00:42:19,894
You sold your professional
integrity for $40,000.
932
00:42:19,971 --> 00:42:20,995
Isn't that true? No!
933
00:42:21,072 --> 00:42:23,232
That's why you refused to
testify at Mr. Rigg's appeal.
934
00:42:23,274 --> 00:42:24,640
It is absolutely not true!
935
00:42:24,709 --> 00:42:26,473
You were afraid
you'd be found out. No.
936
00:42:26,544 --> 00:42:29,378
That your theory
would be discredited,
937
00:42:29,447 --> 00:42:32,349
a theory upon which you
had built your entire career,
938
00:42:32,417 --> 00:42:35,683
and that Mr. Rigg would
be shown for who he was,
939
00:42:35,753 --> 00:42:38,951
not as a good man
who just snapped,
940
00:42:39,457 --> 00:42:42,985
but as a violent
individual, a bully and a liar
941
00:42:43,061 --> 00:42:44,901
who was no more
dissociative than his daughter.
942
00:42:44,929 --> 00:42:45,953
Objection.
943
00:42:51,936 --> 00:42:53,268
Withdrawn.
944
00:42:53,805 --> 00:42:55,535
I have no more
questions for this witness.
945
00:43:04,882 --> 00:43:07,852
You turned this into the
trial of Dr. Leon Mayer.
946
00:43:07,919 --> 00:43:09,319
Whatever the jury thinks of him,
947
00:43:09,387 --> 00:43:11,151
they'll take it
out on my client.
948
00:43:11,222 --> 00:43:14,215
You hitched your wagon to his
theory. Your mistake, not ours.
949
00:43:15,860 --> 00:43:16,884
Man one.
950
00:43:19,063 --> 00:43:21,396
Not until I hear
what she has to say.
951
00:43:30,007 --> 00:43:34,536
I needed him to help us with
the appeal. I thought he owed us.
952
00:43:37,115 --> 00:43:39,482
Dad told me to
forget it, but I couldn't.
953
00:43:41,052 --> 00:43:42,748
I tracked Mayer to his hotel.
954
00:43:42,820 --> 00:43:44,254
And you brought
the gun with you?
955
00:43:45,089 --> 00:43:46,955
Yes. Just to scare him.
956
00:43:48,993 --> 00:43:50,985
Uh, he wouldn't speak to me.
957
00:43:52,463 --> 00:43:55,922
I followed him everywhere,
the theater, the restaurant.
958
00:43:56,634 --> 00:43:58,626
I waited to talk to him.
959
00:44:01,772 --> 00:44:04,718
When I thought he was going to
duck out the back of the restaurant,
960
00:44:04,742 --> 00:44:07,234
I went after him.
961
00:44:07,912 --> 00:44:12,247
I told him he was a bastard
for abandoning a good man.
962
00:44:15,553 --> 00:44:17,078
And he laughed.
963
00:44:20,358 --> 00:44:26,355
Said he wasn't the problem. The
problem was my father was a murderer.
964
00:44:30,601 --> 00:44:32,593
And then he went
into the restroom,
965
00:44:35,606 --> 00:44:37,768
and I didn't believe him.
966
00:44:38,943 --> 00:44:40,411
I couldn't.
967
00:44:46,884 --> 00:44:52,551
I was just so angry that I went
in there and started shooting,
968
00:45:01,799 --> 00:45:04,598
and then when I
saw that other man,
969
00:45:07,104 --> 00:45:09,699
I just kept on firing.
970
00:45:18,516 --> 00:45:20,712
I'm sorry. I didn't know...
971
00:45:31,262 --> 00:45:35,290
Murder two, 20-to-life.
That's the best I can do.
972
00:45:45,610 --> 00:45:48,375
Whole world says her father's
a killer. One man says he's sick.
973
00:45:48,446 --> 00:45:50,039
She heard what
she wanted to hear.
974
00:45:50,114 --> 00:45:51,742
We all do.
975
00:45:51,816 --> 00:45:54,809
Yeah, but we don't all
pay $40,000 to hear it.
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