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In the criminal justice system
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the people are represented by two
separate yet equally important groups,
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the police who investigate crime
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and the district attorneys
who prosecute the offenders.
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These are their stories.
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I've been lied to by experts.
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Like I said, no wife, no
roommates, no live-ins.
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No problems, baby.
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Oh.
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Red lipstick?
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My mother's.
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You want a drink, baby? Wine?
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Uh-huh. A glass of
red wine would be nice.
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All right.
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Are you sure you're not married?
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Last time I checked.
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I did it. You don't
have to worry anymore.
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I killed Dee-Dee.
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Here we go.
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I just remembered, there's
someplace I gotta be.
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Oh, Come on, baby.
What's the matter?
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No.
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Stop it! Stop it! Come on.
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What?
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Come on.
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Hey, what did I
do? Come on, now!
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The message
said, "I killed her."
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Are you sure you heard right?
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I mean, you said yourself,
you'd had a few drinks.
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This guy had someone killed.
It said so on the machine.
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And where can we find him?
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You know that big building on
the corner of Riverside and 114th?
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Well, that's where he lives.
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Okay.
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What's his name?
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Stanley.
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He said he was a fashion
photographer, but I don't know where.
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Okay, let me see
if I got this straight.
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Stanley somebody, who's a
fashion photographer someplace,
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lives in some apartment, probably
in a building at 114th and Riverside
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and has a message about
the murder of somebody
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who might be named Dee-Dee.
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That's right.
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Yeah, thanks for coming in.
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You think you could describe
him to our sketch artist?
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Yes. Good.
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You wait here.
We'll bring someone.
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Oh, this is gonna
be a slam dunk, Rey.
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I got Stan Arnold, Stan Hudson,
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except he's in New Mexico
till the end of October.
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Stan Kaminski...
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Why don't you take
a look at the picture.
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Our Stanley is a photographer.
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About my height, dark hair,
likes to pick up women in bars...
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Kaminski.
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Did you see him with
anyone last night?
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When the Rangers play, I don't
see anything except the television.
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Where can we find him?
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He works in a lumber
store, West 88th.
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She had dark hair, skinny.
I don't remember her name.
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Does the name
"Ellen" ring a bell?
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Something happen to her?
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Just tell us what went on.
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We go back to my place.
One minute she's warming up,
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next thing it's a no-hitter.
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But I didn't touch her.
She saying I touched her?
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No.
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You return all the calls you got on
your answering machine last night?
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I haven't checked the messages.
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Do you know a girl by
the name of "Dee-Dee"?
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What's this got to do with
my answering machine?
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She says someone left a message
on your machine about Dee-Dee.
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This chick listens to my answering
machine, invading my privacy,
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and I'm the one
getting the third degree?
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Who's Dee-Dee, Stan?
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I don't know any Dee-Dee.
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Good, then you won't mind
us listening to your messages,
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we'll clear this up,
and we'll be on our way.
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Come on, man, I'm working
here. What do you want from me?
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We'll square it with your boss.
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And I'm leaving with two cops?
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Well, look at the
bright side, Stan,
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you're not wearing handcuffs.
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Number of messages
received, two.
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Hi, this is Kristin, from
the clam house last Friday.
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I'm off the whole weekend.
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Have bikini, will travel, if you still
wanna go to your place in Jamaica.
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The number's 555-0137. Bye.
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Friday, 11:20 a.m.
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You're a busy man.
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Mr. Kaminski, this is
Mr. Lee from OK Cable.
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Could you give us a call
regarding your outstanding balance?
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Friday, 12:47 p.m.
End of final message.
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So, which one of these is
supposed to be from Dee-Dee?
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The tape rewinds after
the last message plays?
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Yeah.
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Then, we're gonna need
to take the tape with us.
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Let me just get a pen.
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555-0137.
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What?
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Have bikini, will
travel, 555-0137.
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The loudness of
the original message
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and the high-frequency
left a print-through.
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I did it. You don't
have to worry anymore.
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I killed Dee-Dee.
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- The number is 555...
- Thursday, 7:37 p.m.
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Sounds young. Probably
female. Early 20s.
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Maybe he got one of his
girlfriends to kill Dee-Dee.
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This guy's good-looking, but
not that good-looking. Thanks.
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Don't you have crimes with
actual bodies to investigate?
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It could be, she just
wants to rattle his chain.
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Hey, if she just wanted to make trouble
for him, she could've yelled "rape."
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Okay. Stanley Kaminski,
1995, assault three, probation.
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And last April, a Dina Perucci
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got an order of
protection against him.
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Dina... Dee-Dee?
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Go see if Dina's
still alive and kicking.
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Miss Perucci? Who are you?
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I'm Detective Briscoe,
this is Detective Curtis.
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I'm Theresa Green.
Dina's not home.
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Do you know when she'll be back?
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She hasn't been
around since Monday.
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Is that unusual for her?
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We're flight attendants.
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Do you know her
boyfriend, Stan Kaminski?
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Oh, that guy?
What did he do now?
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Well, she had a protection
order against him.
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Dina breaks up with him, one
week later, 2:00 in the morning,
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he comes banging on our door.
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When's the last
time you saw her?
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Monday morning. I had a flight,
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and when I got
back, she wasn't here.
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How many times do I have to
tell you, I don't know this Dee-Dee.
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How about Dina Perucci. You
know who she is, don't you?
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What's she got to do with this?
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She had an order of
protection against you.
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Dina overreacted.
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You like playing rough
with women, Stan?
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I knocked on Dina's
door. What's the big deal?
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The big deal is the murder
confession on your answering machine.
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Where's Dina?
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I haven't seen her in months.
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She jammed you up
with that restraining order.
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Maybe you wanted
to jam her, too?
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Maybe the message was
a mistake, a wrong number.
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When I first got this number,
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I used to get a lot of
calls for some other guy.
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This other guy got a name?
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Ray or Roy.
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"Ray or Roy,"
that's all you got?
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Come on. Let's go.
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What about this other guy, Ray?
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When you remember anything
more about him, like his last name,
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tell lock-up,
they'll let us know.
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Hey, we heard from Worldwide.
Dina Perucci's in Athens on a layover.
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So, Dina's not Dee-Dee.
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Or she is, and the phone
call was just a prank.
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Or she isn't, and the
call was for this guy, Roy.
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Listen, send Mr. Kaminski home.
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Uh-huh.
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We don't have
the budget for this.
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Do you have a current address?
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All right. Thanks.
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Roy Lawlor, he had the
number before Kaminski.
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I did it. You don't
have to worry anymore.
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I killed Dee-Dee.
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Do you recognize the voice?
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No idea.
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You don't know anybody
named Dee-Dee, huh?
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No.
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Diane? Dina? Doris?
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Maybe somebody you
met along your route?
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The only people I meet are
named Roberto and Jacques.
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Oh, yeah, and Joe the barber. And
they're not killing each other over me.
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Hey, two packs a day?
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Ever since I quit drinking.
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You a friend of Bill W.?
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Yeah, when I quit,
I went half nuts.
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I went into the program
when my marriage broke up.
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It's still a struggle.
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One day at a time, huh?
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Sure. One long day.
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Roy's out in the
field most of the time.
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What does he cover?
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The Bronx, uptown
Manhattan to Lincoln Center,
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East Side to 86th Street.
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You guys are from the 15?
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No, 27.
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You know anybody at the
15? I got parking problems.
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Four tickets in the past month.
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My guys pull up outside,
double-park for two minutes to restock,
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by the time they get back
to the car, there's a ticket.
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Listen, is Lawlor close with
any of the other salesmen?
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No, he doesn't spend much
time with the other guys.
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Most of them work out
of town, the tri-state area.
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Lawlor has to stay
pretty much in the city.
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How come?
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I couldn't get insurance on him.
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Our carrier said
he was a liability.
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What's his problem? DUIs?
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Something under the influence.
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Two years ago, he got drunk,
passed out, and started a fire.
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Killed somebody.
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Who?
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His daughter, Diane.
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Dee-Dee.
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So, what should I do
with the parking tickets?
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Pay them, like we do.
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Five-year-old kid asleep on a
daybed in a corner of the room.
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Fire company got there in the early
stages, but the windows were shut.
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Smoke inhalation.
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Father recovered. Kid didn't.
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EMTs worked on her for 45
minutes, but she was already dead.
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How did it start?
With a cigarette
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in the living room, near the
couch where we found Lawlor.
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Says here it started
three feet from the couch.
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Now usually, if someone
drops a cigarette,
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doesn't the fire start
on or near them?
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That's a good point.
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There were cigarette
butts all over the floor.
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I guess the investigator figured
one of them hit some newspapers.
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Who called it in?
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Neighbor's dog
started going crazy.
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She went into the
hall, smelled the smoke.
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And Lawlor says
he started the fire?
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After he came to.
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He was out when they found him.
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Because of the smoke inhalation?
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That, and his blood alcohol
was .25. He was loaded.
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Where was the
mother at the time?
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Upstate, Saratoga.
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Awfully big memory lapse, Roy.
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You try dealing with
something like this.
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Who made the phone call?
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I don't know. Somebody's
trying to spook me.
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Now who'd do that?
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I don't know. You want a list
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of the people I've
pissed off, pull up a seat.
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Why don't we start
with your ex-wife.
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Come on.
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Don't go re-hashing it with
her. She's been through enough.
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She a drinker, too, Roy?
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You wanna tell us
where to find her?
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I don't know where she is.
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Oh, you don't keep
in touch with her?
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Like I said, she's
been through enough.
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You used my Social Security
number to look up where I work?
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And your boss sent us here.
249
00:11:44,470 --> 00:11:47,235
Can't even drink
in peace anymore.
250
00:11:47,407 --> 00:11:48,466
Mrs. Lawlor...
251
00:11:48,541 --> 00:11:49,565
Call me Sandra.
252
00:11:50,076 --> 00:11:52,443
And you can call me Sandy.
253
00:11:52,812 --> 00:11:56,977
Mrs. Lawlor, we need to ask you some
questions about your daughter's death.
254
00:11:58,518 --> 00:12:00,214
What? We're just following up.
255
00:12:00,486 --> 00:12:02,819
The report said you
were up in Saratoga.
256
00:12:03,756 --> 00:12:05,190
I was at a conference.
257
00:12:05,258 --> 00:12:08,023
What about last Thursday, around
11:00 or 12:00 in the afternoon?
258
00:12:08,094 --> 00:12:09,687
Do you remember where you were?
259
00:12:13,032 --> 00:12:15,399
I was still asleep. I
didn't get up till 1:00.
260
00:12:15,802 --> 00:12:17,236
It's my day off.
261
00:12:17,303 --> 00:12:18,703
Sleeping off a late night?
262
00:12:20,673 --> 00:12:22,335
All my nights are late.
263
00:12:23,509 --> 00:12:25,774
Did you try calling your
ex-husband that day?
264
00:12:26,412 --> 00:12:27,412
No, why?
265
00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:28,560
Somebody left him a message
266
00:12:28,915 --> 00:12:30,315
at his old number.
267
00:12:30,683 --> 00:12:32,879
Why would I call his old number?
268
00:12:33,253 --> 00:12:35,119
Last time I spoke to
him was September 25th.
269
00:12:36,022 --> 00:12:37,490
You remember the exact date?
270
00:12:39,792 --> 00:12:41,954
It would've been
Dee-Dee's seventh birthday.
271
00:12:45,698 --> 00:12:47,963
I pulled the LUDs off
Sandra Lawlor's phone.
272
00:12:48,034 --> 00:12:49,696
No calls to Kaminski,
273
00:12:49,769 --> 00:12:52,637
but she did make some late
night calls to Roy's new number.
274
00:12:54,307 --> 00:12:56,071
Hmm. All calls
were a minute long.
275
00:12:56,209 --> 00:12:57,253
Yeah, just long enough
276
00:12:57,277 --> 00:12:58,754
to get the answering
machine and hang up.
277
00:12:58,778 --> 00:13:00,576
Lawlor was screening his calls.
278
00:13:00,713 --> 00:13:03,512
Yeah, and she also made about
a dozen one-minute late night calls
279
00:13:03,583 --> 00:13:04,642
to another number.
280
00:13:04,717 --> 00:13:08,813
Get this, this number is registered
to an Elaine Anderton Lawlor.
281
00:13:09,088 --> 00:13:10,420
Another Mrs. Lawlor?
282
00:13:10,490 --> 00:13:11,753
This one's on Park Avenue.
283
00:13:11,824 --> 00:13:13,349
Could be a sister, or an aunt.
284
00:13:13,493 --> 00:13:15,985
Well, whoever it is, I
pulled their LUDs, too.
285
00:13:16,062 --> 00:13:18,531
The confession was
made from their phone.
286
00:13:22,402 --> 00:13:23,461
Roy?
287
00:13:23,936 --> 00:13:25,734
We got divorced eight years ago.
288
00:13:25,805 --> 00:13:28,604
He moved to the West
Side six, seven months ago.
289
00:13:28,675 --> 00:13:30,075
I haven't talked to him since.
290
00:13:30,143 --> 00:13:31,771
What about Sandra Lawlor?
291
00:13:32,111 --> 00:13:33,875
His second wife?
292
00:13:34,380 --> 00:13:38,408
That drunk calls at all hours, complaining
about me, complaining about him.
293
00:13:39,052 --> 00:13:40,816
Is Roy in some kind of trouble?
294
00:13:40,953 --> 00:13:42,993
We're looking into the
death of his daughter, Diane.
295
00:13:43,456 --> 00:13:45,448
Uh-huh. And?
296
00:13:45,525 --> 00:13:48,893
Someone left a message on an
answering machine confessing to the arson.
297
00:13:49,128 --> 00:13:50,824
Well, what does that
have to do with me?
298
00:13:51,230 --> 00:13:53,165
The call came
from this apartment.
299
00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:55,366
That's impossible.
300
00:13:55,435 --> 00:13:57,267
Introduce me to
your friends, Elaine.
301
00:13:57,337 --> 00:13:59,568
Daddy, these are
police detectives.
302
00:14:00,006 --> 00:14:01,406
Oh, is there a problem?
303
00:14:01,474 --> 00:14:05,104
They're saying someone used our
phone to confess to killing Roy's daughter.
304
00:14:05,311 --> 00:14:06,677
Well, someone's
pulling your leg.
305
00:14:06,746 --> 00:14:08,624
Be that as it may, the
phone records show the call...
306
00:14:08,648 --> 00:14:10,082
In my business, I
only trust records
307
00:14:10,149 --> 00:14:12,084
that I can prove haven't
been tampered with.
308
00:14:13,019 --> 00:14:15,716
Well, why would somebody want
to tamper with your phone records?
309
00:14:15,788 --> 00:14:18,986
My daughter is no longer
married to that drunk.
310
00:14:19,258 --> 00:14:23,195
If you have questions about
the fire, talk to him. He set it.
311
00:14:24,063 --> 00:14:26,794
He destroyed one life, he
nearly destroyed my daughter's.
312
00:14:26,999 --> 00:14:29,833
Now, this is my lawyer. You can
talk to him to your heart's content.
313
00:14:30,536 --> 00:14:33,062
Now, if you'll please
leave, I'd appreciate it.
314
00:14:34,006 --> 00:14:35,006
Thank you.
315
00:14:35,074 --> 00:14:36,151
Who works for the Andertons?
316
00:14:36,175 --> 00:14:40,306
Yeah, you got two housekeepers,
Elsie Ruiz and Anne Ryan,
317
00:14:40,380 --> 00:14:44,283
the cook, Emma Hooper,
the chauffeur, a secretary,
318
00:14:44,350 --> 00:14:45,790
people going in
and out all the time.
319
00:14:45,918 --> 00:14:46,942
Ages?
320
00:14:47,019 --> 00:14:48,385
Ruiz is around 60.
321
00:14:48,588 --> 00:14:49,817
And Ryan?
322
00:14:49,889 --> 00:14:52,381
50s. Hooper, maybe 40, 45.
323
00:14:52,925 --> 00:14:54,291
Anybody else?
324
00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:56,693
No, just Mr. Anderton,
his daughter and her kid.
325
00:14:56,763 --> 00:14:57,787
Her kid?
326
00:14:57,864 --> 00:14:58,888
Yeah, Terry.
327
00:14:58,965 --> 00:15:01,443
Him and his mother have lived
with Mr. Anderton since her divorce.
328
00:15:01,467 --> 00:15:03,026
How old is Terry?
329
00:15:03,102 --> 00:15:05,628
Teenager, like 14, 15.
330
00:15:06,205 --> 00:15:07,468
High-pitched voice? Yeah.
331
00:15:08,074 --> 00:15:09,940
Where is he now? He's at school.
332
00:15:10,009 --> 00:15:11,875
Their chauffeur brings
him home around 4:00.
333
00:15:11,944 --> 00:15:13,242
All right, thanks. Sure.
334
00:15:13,813 --> 00:15:15,179
The kid? The kid.
335
00:15:15,248 --> 00:15:17,843
I doubt the Andertons are gonna
volunteer him for a voice sample.
336
00:15:17,917 --> 00:15:19,943
Maybe he'll
volunteer one himself.
337
00:15:25,191 --> 00:15:28,684
Hey, kid! We're looking for
the Metropolitan Museum.
338
00:15:28,761 --> 00:15:31,128
Yeah, take a left right there,
339
00:15:31,197 --> 00:15:33,723
go three blocks over,
and go straight up Fifth.
340
00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:36,292
Okay, right there, and
then three blocks over?
341
00:15:36,369 --> 00:15:39,498
No, no, no. First
left. Go to Fifth
342
00:15:39,572 --> 00:15:41,483
and go all the way up to
the 80s. You can't miss it.
343
00:15:41,507 --> 00:15:43,669
Oh, thanks, nice talking to you.
344
00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:49,972
The kid's voice barely
registers 50 decibels.
345
00:15:50,049 --> 00:15:53,713
Even with a filter, 60%
match is what I can do.
346
00:15:54,220 --> 00:15:55,552
Thanks.
347
00:15:55,988 --> 00:15:59,083
60% is about 20%
short of an arrest warrant.
348
00:15:59,292 --> 00:16:01,591
Let's take a look at
the arson evidence.
349
00:16:02,161 --> 00:16:05,495
Five cigarette butts,
some newspapers,
350
00:16:05,665 --> 00:16:06,928
a couple of matchbooks.
351
00:16:06,999 --> 00:16:09,093
The Connaught Hotel, London.
352
00:16:09,168 --> 00:16:12,138
Yeah, my first wife wanted
to stay there one night.
353
00:16:12,405 --> 00:16:14,169
I figured out we
could afford one hour.
354
00:16:14,807 --> 00:16:16,673
That seem like Roy
Lawlor's kind of place?
355
00:16:16,943 --> 00:16:20,778
Not the Roy Lawlor I saw, but
it's right up Carl Anderton's alley.
356
00:16:22,148 --> 00:16:23,241
Where was it found?
357
00:16:24,684 --> 00:16:25,947
On the floor, in the hallway.
358
00:16:26,285 --> 00:16:27,810
Was it ever checked for prints?
359
00:16:27,887 --> 00:16:28,980
No.
360
00:16:31,057 --> 00:16:32,081
Huh.
361
00:16:32,158 --> 00:16:35,151
Geniuses. The cardboard
has an acetate finish.
362
00:16:35,428 --> 00:16:39,160
It's not too damaged. They
should have been able to lift a print.
363
00:16:39,265 --> 00:16:40,927
Maybe they still can.
364
00:16:42,301 --> 00:16:44,964
Latent found a print on the
matchbook. It's not Roy's.
365
00:16:45,037 --> 00:16:46,037
Whose?
366
00:16:46,105 --> 00:16:49,098
Well, the size of the print
looks like it could belong to a kid.
367
00:16:49,175 --> 00:16:50,438
What else do you got?
368
00:16:50,510 --> 00:16:52,672
A 60% voice match
on the phone call.
369
00:16:52,745 --> 00:16:57,183
Only 60%? Carl Anderton sits on
the Mayor's re-election committee.
370
00:16:57,250 --> 00:17:00,015
Hey, if he sat in a booth collecting
tolls for the Lincoln Tunnel,
371
00:17:00,086 --> 00:17:01,918
we'd be arresting
his grandson by now.
372
00:17:01,988 --> 00:17:03,581
What's that supposed to mean?
373
00:17:03,823 --> 00:17:05,067
You've got... BRISCOE:
We've got a print,
374
00:17:05,091 --> 00:17:06,150
we've got a confession.
375
00:17:06,292 --> 00:17:07,316
Motive?
376
00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:09,729
It's the kid's half-sister.
You don't have to be
377
00:17:09,795 --> 00:17:11,320
a genius to come
up with something.
378
00:17:12,198 --> 00:17:13,325
Then come up with something.
379
00:17:15,234 --> 00:17:16,258
What about the father?
380
00:17:16,335 --> 00:17:17,860
He's had plenty of opportunities
381
00:17:17,937 --> 00:17:19,428
to implicate his
son, but he hasn't.
382
00:17:19,539 --> 00:17:20,632
The little girl's mother?
383
00:17:20,706 --> 00:17:22,937
If she had anything to
say about Terry and the fire,
384
00:17:23,009 --> 00:17:24,637
she would've said it by now.
385
00:17:24,710 --> 00:17:26,474
What about the people
who live with the boy?
386
00:17:26,546 --> 00:17:29,106
I'm sure there's no shortage of
household help at the Andertons'.
387
00:17:29,215 --> 00:17:32,515
Yeah. If they worked there two
years ago, if we can find them,
388
00:17:32,585 --> 00:17:34,213
and if they'll talk to us.
389
00:17:34,854 --> 00:17:36,789
I have confidence in you.
390
00:17:41,460 --> 00:17:42,894
When I worked for Mr. Anderton,
391
00:17:42,962 --> 00:17:44,794
he had me sign a
confidentiality agreement.
392
00:17:44,864 --> 00:17:46,542
Well, he can't stop
you from talking to us.
393
00:17:46,566 --> 00:17:50,025
A little girl died in a fire
we think Terry might've set.
394
00:17:50,136 --> 00:17:51,764
He makes all his
employees sign one.
395
00:17:51,837 --> 00:17:53,396
This girl was five years old.
396
00:17:53,573 --> 00:17:55,201
Come on. You gonna
wait for a subpoena?
397
00:17:55,274 --> 00:17:57,937
Sooner or later, you're
gonna have to talk to us.
398
00:18:03,783 --> 00:18:05,945
After the fire, Terry
stayed in his room,
399
00:18:06,018 --> 00:18:08,510
drawing pictures
of that poor little girl.
400
00:18:09,021 --> 00:18:10,221
Did he talk about her?
401
00:18:10,289 --> 00:18:11,450
Only to his father.
402
00:18:11,891 --> 00:18:13,771
Terry would call him in
the middle of the night.
403
00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:16,429
I could hear him from the
other room, talking on and on.
404
00:18:16,495 --> 00:18:17,588
About what?
405
00:18:17,663 --> 00:18:20,030
Well, Terry could only see
his father on the weekends.
406
00:18:20,099 --> 00:18:21,431
He blamed the little girl.
407
00:18:21,801 --> 00:18:23,463
What else did he say about her?
408
00:18:23,569 --> 00:18:26,129
He said she was trying to
turn his father against him.
409
00:18:26,205 --> 00:18:28,640
A little girl. It was crazy.
410
00:18:29,008 --> 00:18:30,909
I thought maybe he was on drugs.
411
00:18:31,310 --> 00:18:33,711
After the fire, Terry
stopped calling him.
412
00:18:33,779 --> 00:18:35,270
Did Terry use drugs?
413
00:18:36,382 --> 00:18:37,907
I don't think so.
414
00:18:38,718 --> 00:18:41,153
Do you know where he
was the night of the fire?
415
00:18:42,188 --> 00:18:43,622
I don't know.
416
00:18:45,024 --> 00:18:46,253
Two weeks after the fire,
417
00:18:46,325 --> 00:18:48,624
I checked through a bag of
clothes for The Salvation Army.
418
00:18:48,894 --> 00:18:50,362
Why would you do that?
419
00:18:51,063 --> 00:18:54,227
Well, they throw things
out. Lots of stuff is still good.
420
00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:55,834
So, you looked in the bag...
421
00:18:58,971 --> 00:18:59,971
I found a shirt.
422
00:19:00,039 --> 00:19:01,039
And?
423
00:19:02,308 --> 00:19:03,833
You could still smell the smoke.
424
00:19:04,644 --> 00:19:06,044
Was it one of Terry's shirts?
425
00:19:10,082 --> 00:19:11,710
Come on, sweetie.
426
00:19:15,454 --> 00:19:17,013
Terry Lawlor.
427
00:19:17,089 --> 00:19:18,557
What do you think you're doing?
428
00:19:18,691 --> 00:19:20,068
We have a warrant
for your son, ma'am.
429
00:19:20,092 --> 00:19:21,526
Terry Lawlor,
you're under arrest
430
00:19:21,594 --> 00:19:22,960
for the murder of Diane Lawlor.
431
00:19:23,029 --> 00:19:24,895
Mom... It's okay. It's
a misunderstanding.
432
00:19:24,964 --> 00:19:26,308
You have the right
to remain silent.
433
00:19:26,332 --> 00:19:27,609
You have the
right to an attorney.
434
00:19:27,633 --> 00:19:29,073
You can talk to my
lawyer about this.
435
00:19:29,135 --> 00:19:31,934
We'll be happy to talk to you and
your lawyer down at the precinct.
436
00:19:32,004 --> 00:19:33,529
Getting in?
437
00:19:34,874 --> 00:19:36,467
You bastards.
438
00:19:41,981 --> 00:19:43,745
Well, I don't like it,
439
00:19:43,816 --> 00:19:46,877
my grandson having to wear some
sort of electronic monitoring device
440
00:19:46,952 --> 00:19:48,181
while he's out on bail.
441
00:19:48,254 --> 00:19:50,189
All due respect, if he
weren't your grandson,
442
00:19:50,256 --> 00:19:52,122
he might not even
be out on bail.
443
00:19:52,191 --> 00:19:56,322
With all due respect, Mr. McCoy,
if he weren't my grandson,
444
00:19:56,729 --> 00:19:58,823
he wouldn't even have
been charged with the crime.
445
00:19:58,898 --> 00:20:01,333
Mr. McCoy, Terry
Lawlor's a good kid.
446
00:20:01,500 --> 00:20:04,629
Whose prints were found at an
arson that killed another good kid.
447
00:20:04,870 --> 00:20:06,515
Well, that's not enough
to prove that my grand...
448
00:20:06,539 --> 00:20:08,440
We have enough for a trial.
449
00:20:08,774 --> 00:20:10,367
Or could we talk about a plea?
450
00:20:10,543 --> 00:20:14,207
No, no. We're here to talk
about dropping the charges.
451
00:20:14,580 --> 00:20:16,158
We'll talk about a plea
with the boy's mother.
452
00:20:16,182 --> 00:20:17,241
I'm his guardian.
453
00:20:17,550 --> 00:20:21,385
I make all decisions concerning
him. You'll talk to me, Mr. McCoy.
454
00:20:21,587 --> 00:20:24,318
The arson squad closed
this case two years ago.
455
00:20:24,790 --> 00:20:26,952
A drunk named Roy Lawlor did it.
456
00:20:27,059 --> 00:20:28,721
This case is not
about Roy Lawlor.
457
00:20:28,794 --> 00:20:31,229
Nor, for that matter, is it
about you, Mr. Anderton.
458
00:20:31,297 --> 00:20:33,266
Oh, it certainly is about me.
459
00:20:33,599 --> 00:20:36,125
No way you'll prove
Terry set that fire.
460
00:20:36,202 --> 00:20:38,068
We have his confession on tape.
461
00:20:38,304 --> 00:20:39,772
Not for long.
462
00:20:41,907 --> 00:20:43,876
It's a motion for an
audibility hearing.
463
00:20:43,943 --> 00:20:48,608
A 60% voice match is
crap, and you know it.
464
00:20:54,987 --> 00:20:56,455
Six reports
465
00:20:56,522 --> 00:20:59,253
from three different
nationally recognized experts
466
00:20:59,325 --> 00:21:03,990
comparing the tape to my client's
voice and to five random samples.
467
00:21:04,230 --> 00:21:06,722
My wife's voice was a 50% match.
468
00:21:07,166 --> 00:21:09,328
We're not offering a
conclusive match, Your Honor,
469
00:21:09,401 --> 00:21:11,427
but a probable one in
light of the other evidence.
470
00:21:11,504 --> 00:21:14,474
Your Honor, the tape
was altered in the lab.
471
00:21:14,907 --> 00:21:17,900
The call to the answering machine
came from his client's home.
472
00:21:17,977 --> 00:21:19,605
That may be so,
but whether or not
473
00:21:19,678 --> 00:21:21,579
my client made
the call is the issue.
474
00:21:22,014 --> 00:21:24,142
Mr. McCoy, the
tape was enhanced,
475
00:21:24,216 --> 00:21:27,584
and produced a voice
match disputed by experts.
476
00:21:28,187 --> 00:21:29,348
By defense experts.
477
00:21:29,421 --> 00:21:31,219
I also heard your experts.
478
00:21:31,524 --> 00:21:32,822
I listened to the tapes
479
00:21:32,892 --> 00:21:36,260
and I can't tell that the two
voices are from the same person.
480
00:21:36,562 --> 00:21:39,293
Given the inflammatory
nature of the tape's content,
481
00:21:39,565 --> 00:21:41,193
I'm going to suppress it.
482
00:21:43,502 --> 00:21:46,961
Carl Anderton's grandson.
Carl's a good man.
483
00:21:47,473 --> 00:21:50,238
We worked on the
Lindsay campaign together.
484
00:21:50,743 --> 00:21:52,405
We're not prosecuting him.
485
00:21:52,478 --> 00:21:55,346
The boy obviously feels
repentant for what he did.
486
00:21:55,414 --> 00:21:57,212
He called his father, didn't he?
487
00:21:57,516 --> 00:21:58,643
You offered a plea?
488
00:21:58,717 --> 00:21:59,810
We got turned down.
489
00:21:59,885 --> 00:22:01,820
What kind of plea?
We didn't get that far.
490
00:22:01,887 --> 00:22:03,913
He turned down
the idea of a plea.
491
00:22:03,989 --> 00:22:05,924
Adam, why are we
pussyfooting around?
492
00:22:06,058 --> 00:22:10,086
The man has a $4 billion
war chest. Three years ago,
493
00:22:10,496 --> 00:22:14,627
the Atlantic-Star Cable merger,
he took on the SEC and won.
494
00:22:15,434 --> 00:22:16,732
He's rich, he's powerful.
495
00:22:16,802 --> 00:22:18,896
Maybe we should let
Robin Leach try the case.
496
00:22:18,971 --> 00:22:21,202
Carl Anderton brought
down a governor,
497
00:22:21,740 --> 00:22:25,507
put senators in office, and now
he's fighting for his grandson.
498
00:22:29,081 --> 00:22:30,481
I'm not kissing his ass, Adam.
499
00:22:30,549 --> 00:22:33,041
I want you to treat
him with respect.
500
00:22:34,553 --> 00:22:36,749
He gets the same from
me as everybody else.
501
00:22:38,224 --> 00:22:39,988
I don't care who he is.
502
00:22:43,662 --> 00:22:45,597
Bobby Kennedy sat right
in that chair over there,
503
00:22:45,664 --> 00:22:46,893
smoking Monte Cruise,
504
00:22:47,466 --> 00:22:50,078
right after we signed the
Bedford-Stuyvesant Restoration Agreement.
505
00:22:50,102 --> 00:22:51,730
Remember? Yeah.
506
00:22:52,004 --> 00:22:53,028
You were sitting at...
507
00:22:53,105 --> 00:22:54,505
I stood right over there.
508
00:22:56,275 --> 00:22:59,734
Yeah. That's right. You
want something, Adam?
509
00:22:59,812 --> 00:23:01,405
No, thank you.
510
00:23:04,617 --> 00:23:07,177
You know why I'm here.
511
00:23:07,319 --> 00:23:09,914
We've been through some
rough times together, Carl.
512
00:23:11,056 --> 00:23:12,649
This is gonna be another one.
513
00:23:13,025 --> 00:23:15,119
It's just gonna end
up a bloody mess.
514
00:23:15,895 --> 00:23:18,763
Adam, if you wanted to,
you could make it go away.
515
00:23:19,398 --> 00:23:21,697
Your grandson confessed.
516
00:23:21,767 --> 00:23:23,133
No, that was no confession.
517
00:23:23,569 --> 00:23:25,902
Terry was just trying to
make his father feel better.
518
00:23:26,238 --> 00:23:28,070
The boy has a good heart.
519
00:23:28,674 --> 00:23:33,374
There's other evidence. A plea
bargain is the best way to go.
520
00:23:36,215 --> 00:23:39,379
When is your term up?
Is it next spring, what?
521
00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:42,579
What are you implying?
522
00:23:42,755 --> 00:23:44,656
Don't misunderstand me.
523
00:23:46,292 --> 00:23:47,817
We go back a long way.
524
00:23:50,195 --> 00:23:52,164
It was a different city.
525
00:23:53,032 --> 00:23:56,662
But you know, the important
things, loyalty and friendship,
526
00:23:57,269 --> 00:23:58,999
they haven't changed.
527
00:23:59,204 --> 00:24:00,797
No, they haven't.
528
00:24:01,674 --> 00:24:04,337
He's my only grandson, Adam,
529
00:24:06,412 --> 00:24:08,938
and you were at his
mother's wedding.
530
00:24:09,682 --> 00:24:13,312
I've got pictures of you holding
the boy when he was a baby.
531
00:24:13,419 --> 00:24:16,412
I'm sorry, Carl. There's
a plea offer on the table.
532
00:24:16,789 --> 00:24:19,759
Take it, don't take
it, it's up to you.
533
00:24:19,825 --> 00:24:24,763
Adam, you deny me
this personal request?
534
00:24:28,567 --> 00:24:30,593
I can't do this, my friend.
535
00:24:33,038 --> 00:24:34,267
I won't.
536
00:24:40,879 --> 00:24:44,907
A fingerprint on an old
matchbook and a smelly shirt,
537
00:24:46,919 --> 00:24:49,081
not the strongest case
I've ever taken to trial.
538
00:24:49,154 --> 00:24:52,420
It might help if we could tell a jury
what turned Terry into an arsonist.
539
00:24:53,492 --> 00:24:56,587
He was angry at his father.
That's an emotion I can understand.
540
00:24:57,696 --> 00:24:59,289
Something pushed
him over the edge.
541
00:25:01,133 --> 00:25:04,262
The nanny suspected drugs.
It'd be nice to be able to prove it.
542
00:25:04,403 --> 00:25:06,770
I checked the school records,
medical records, insurance,
543
00:25:06,839 --> 00:25:08,933
there's no sign he ever
had a drug problem.
544
00:25:09,842 --> 00:25:11,208
What about friends?
545
00:25:11,343 --> 00:25:12,743
I haven't found any.
546
00:25:13,178 --> 00:25:15,977
And I can't get anybody at his
school to say anything bad about him.
547
00:25:16,348 --> 00:25:18,510
They're afraid of losing
a future endowment.
548
00:25:20,352 --> 00:25:22,150
What about other
schools the boy attended?
549
00:25:22,354 --> 00:25:26,155
Selwyn Academy. The prep
he was at when the fire occurred.
550
00:25:26,425 --> 00:25:27,620
They won't talk to me either.
551
00:25:28,594 --> 00:25:29,721
That their yearbook?
552
00:25:29,795 --> 00:25:30,795
Mmm-hmm.
553
00:25:35,267 --> 00:25:37,498
Looks pretty harmless
in a jacket and tie.
554
00:25:37,569 --> 00:25:38,901
You all do.
555
00:25:39,271 --> 00:25:41,934
Yeah. Oh, look, here.
556
00:25:43,075 --> 00:25:44,304
They had a school counselor.
557
00:25:45,277 --> 00:25:47,576
If the kid was doing drugs,
maybe she'll know about it.
558
00:25:51,650 --> 00:25:53,346
Drugs weren't his problem.
559
00:25:53,419 --> 00:25:55,615
Maybe he would've been
better off if they were.
560
00:25:55,687 --> 00:25:56,814
What was his problem?
561
00:25:56,889 --> 00:25:57,948
His real problem?
562
00:25:58,490 --> 00:25:59,958
I never got the
chance to find out.
563
00:26:00,692 --> 00:26:03,662
But his behavior in
school was something else.
564
00:26:04,163 --> 00:26:05,163
A handful?
565
00:26:05,464 --> 00:26:06,796
Depending on when
you caught him.
566
00:26:06,865 --> 00:26:09,096
He could be a charmer one week,
567
00:26:09,168 --> 00:26:11,330
and then an absolute
monster the next.
568
00:26:11,403 --> 00:26:14,703
He'd get in these funks, and I
could hardly get a word out of him.
569
00:26:15,307 --> 00:26:17,708
Given his home life, wouldn't
you expect him to be moody?
570
00:26:18,143 --> 00:26:20,044
It wasn't about that.
571
00:26:20,112 --> 00:26:23,742
He decided to run for Student
President of the middle school.
572
00:26:24,316 --> 00:26:28,048
He had a very well-articulated
platform, posters, the whole bit.
573
00:26:28,921 --> 00:26:30,822
A week before the
election, he withdrew.
574
00:26:31,757 --> 00:26:34,727
I asked him why. He
went into a diatribe
575
00:26:34,793 --> 00:26:38,821
about the other candidate sabotaging
his campaign, planting spies.
576
00:26:39,264 --> 00:26:40,425
Was it true?
577
00:26:43,502 --> 00:26:46,062
He said he could hear them
whispering through the walls.
578
00:26:50,809 --> 00:26:54,439
Paranoia, schizophrenia,
bipolar disorder...
579
00:26:55,247 --> 00:26:56,527
You expect me to
make a diagnosis
580
00:26:56,582 --> 00:26:58,551
based on the observations
of an amateur?
581
00:26:58,617 --> 00:27:00,813
Yeah. You got a
problem with that?
582
00:27:02,988 --> 00:27:08,052
Okay. He can't relate to others,
has low tolerance for frustration,
583
00:27:08,127 --> 00:27:09,925
he's unpredictable...
584
00:27:10,863 --> 00:27:12,161
So far, that's my kid.
585
00:27:13,565 --> 00:27:16,899
Now, the fear and suspicion,
the whispering through the walls,
586
00:27:17,436 --> 00:27:19,735
sounds like he's in the early
stages of bipolar disorder.
587
00:27:20,405 --> 00:27:21,703
Bipolar disorder.
588
00:27:21,773 --> 00:27:24,504
Alternating cycles of
depression and mania.
589
00:27:25,277 --> 00:27:27,109
Periods of feeling
better than normal,
590
00:27:27,179 --> 00:27:29,512
brighter and more
energetic and charming,
591
00:27:29,848 --> 00:27:32,079
hyper-sexuality
and poor judgment.
592
00:27:32,518 --> 00:27:35,886
Then, suddenly
irritability, aggression,
593
00:27:36,321 --> 00:27:39,985
delusions of persecution,
hearing voices.
594
00:27:40,659 --> 00:27:41,970
That's what's going
on with this kid?
595
00:27:41,994 --> 00:27:44,657
It's a third-hand diagnosis.
Take it for what it's worth.
596
00:27:45,597 --> 00:27:47,657
But it might explain
why the kid's a fire bug.
597
00:27:49,601 --> 00:27:51,433
If he's crazy, why
isn't his lawyer
598
00:27:51,503 --> 00:27:53,472
going for an insanity defense?
599
00:27:58,177 --> 00:27:59,304
Good question.
600
00:28:03,282 --> 00:28:05,717
Bipolar disorder?
601
00:28:05,784 --> 00:28:08,583
I think you need your
head examined, Mr. McCoy.
602
00:28:08,987 --> 00:28:11,115
We didn't just pull
this out of thin air.
603
00:28:11,256 --> 00:28:14,055
We talked to a former school
counselor, to his friends...
604
00:28:14,159 --> 00:28:16,856
People with impeccable
credentials in the field of psychiatry.
605
00:28:16,929 --> 00:28:19,990
The behavior they observed
can't be explained any other way.
606
00:28:20,065 --> 00:28:24,332
Mr. Anderton, I don't have any
interest in prosecuting your grandson
607
00:28:24,403 --> 00:28:25,894
if he has a mental disease.
608
00:28:25,971 --> 00:28:27,997
There is nothing
wrong with Terry.
609
00:28:28,073 --> 00:28:30,235
Then, you won't mind if our
psychiatrist examines him.
610
00:28:30,309 --> 00:28:32,471
So you can gather
evidence against him?
611
00:28:32,744 --> 00:28:33,768
I don't think so.
612
00:28:33,845 --> 00:28:35,657
It would be off the record.
You have nothing to lose.
613
00:28:35,681 --> 00:28:38,708
Mr. Anderton, your grandson
needs treatment, not prison.
614
00:28:38,784 --> 00:28:42,346
The way your case is going, he
doesn't have to worry about prison.
615
00:28:42,654 --> 00:28:46,113
Sir, your grandson
killed that little girl.
616
00:28:47,159 --> 00:28:50,687
Either in prison or in a psychiatric
hospital, he's going to answer for it.
617
00:28:50,929 --> 00:28:55,867
At the end of this, Mr. McCoy, my
grandson is coming home with me.
618
00:29:02,708 --> 00:29:07,271
We'll see what a judge has to say
about that. I'm moving for a 730 exam.
619
00:29:10,582 --> 00:29:13,102
Your Honor, I've brought this
motion in the interest of justice.
620
00:29:13,385 --> 00:29:15,786
Aren't the defendant's best
interests served by his counsel?
621
00:29:15,854 --> 00:29:18,187
Unless counsel refuses to
acknowledge the obvious.
622
00:29:18,257 --> 00:29:19,384
What obvious?
623
00:29:19,458 --> 00:29:22,018
Your Honor, the defendant
hasn't been howling at the moon
624
00:29:22,094 --> 00:29:23,426
or ripping his hair out.
625
00:29:23,495 --> 00:29:24,519
He's not crazy.
626
00:29:24,596 --> 00:29:27,225
If there's nothing wrong with
his client, then a 730 exam can't...
627
00:29:27,299 --> 00:29:31,259
A pointless proceeding that can
only be to my client's detriment.
628
00:29:31,336 --> 00:29:34,795
The prosecutors can question
him in violation of his rights.
629
00:29:34,873 --> 00:29:38,571
Mr. McCoy, if his client's
mental condition is so obvious,
630
00:29:38,810 --> 00:29:41,370
then it should be
apparent if I talk to him.
631
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:45,515
I'll question him in chambers
and decide if your motion has merit.
632
00:29:45,617 --> 00:29:47,449
I'd like our
psychiatrist to observe.
633
00:29:47,519 --> 00:29:48,646
Absolutely not.
634
00:29:48,887 --> 00:29:51,584
I'll decide what goes on in
my chambers, Mr. Weaver.
635
00:29:51,957 --> 00:29:56,554
Mr. McCoy's psychiatrist can observe,
but I'll be the one asking the questions.
636
00:29:56,628 --> 00:29:58,108
The court is back in session.
637
00:29:58,230 --> 00:29:59,230
Judge Jane...
638
00:29:59,298 --> 00:30:00,508
So you understand
639
00:30:00,532 --> 00:30:03,001
everything that's happened
in this case so far?
640
00:30:03,068 --> 00:30:04,297
Yes, ma'am.
641
00:30:04,703 --> 00:30:06,399
And how do you
feel about all this?
642
00:30:07,639 --> 00:30:08,732
Scared.
643
00:30:09,441 --> 00:30:13,173
Understandable. And
how is it for you, at home?
644
00:30:13,445 --> 00:30:15,277
Well, I've been playing
a lot of Nintendo.
645
00:30:15,347 --> 00:30:18,010
I can't really rollerblade
with this thing on.
646
00:30:22,654 --> 00:30:26,455
Thank you for coming in. You
can wait for Mr. Weaver outside.
647
00:30:34,466 --> 00:30:36,867
He seems like a
normal teenager to me.
648
00:30:36,935 --> 00:30:38,836
With all due
respect, Your Honor,
649
00:30:38,904 --> 00:30:40,736
I would have asked
different questions.
650
00:30:41,139 --> 00:30:44,075
That's why you were allowed
here only as an observer.
651
00:30:44,142 --> 00:30:45,701
Your Honor,
Dr. Skoda's point is...
652
00:30:45,777 --> 00:30:48,269
Mr. McCoy, I don't
care what his point is.
653
00:30:49,348 --> 00:30:52,375
I'm satisfied that the
defendant is of sound mind.
654
00:30:52,617 --> 00:30:56,019
Your motion for a
730 exam is denied.
655
00:30:57,656 --> 00:30:59,249
I'm not a mind reader, Jack.
656
00:30:59,324 --> 00:31:01,589
"Hi, how are you?" is
not a diagnostic question.
657
00:31:01,660 --> 00:31:03,060
You can't tell me anything?
658
00:31:03,729 --> 00:31:06,893
He likes rollerblading
and Nintendo. So do I.
659
00:31:07,399 --> 00:31:09,644
I don't get it. They should've
jumped at a chance for the exam.
660
00:31:09,668 --> 00:31:11,159
They think they're going to win.
661
00:31:11,370 --> 00:31:14,568
The way things are going, they're
probably right. So now what?
662
00:31:14,706 --> 00:31:16,038
We go to trial.
663
00:31:16,808 --> 00:31:19,505
If they won't use his mental
state to get him acquitted, fine,
664
00:31:20,011 --> 00:31:23,914
we'll use it to convict him. He
set the fire because he's deluded.
665
00:31:24,383 --> 00:31:26,909
If he has a mental disease, he
doesn't belong in prison, Jack.
666
00:31:27,319 --> 00:31:28,529
Maybe it won't
come down to that.
667
00:31:28,553 --> 00:31:29,680
And what if it does?
668
00:31:30,789 --> 00:31:32,382
That's what they pay us for.
669
00:31:36,728 --> 00:31:41,689
After Dee-Dee was born, Terry
became aggressive with her.
670
00:31:42,667 --> 00:31:44,067
In what way?
671
00:31:44,269 --> 00:31:46,500
Squeezing her too
hard, for one thing.
672
00:31:46,605 --> 00:31:48,403
Did you discuss this
with your husband?
673
00:31:49,508 --> 00:31:52,672
I told Roy I didn't
want Terry around her.
674
00:31:52,811 --> 00:31:55,975
I was afraid he
might do something.
675
00:31:57,315 --> 00:31:59,944
We cut his visits to just
weekends, when I could be there.
676
00:32:00,018 --> 00:32:02,249
Why didn't you tell the
police any of this before?
677
00:32:02,487 --> 00:32:05,855
I didn't think it mattered.
Roy said the fire was his fault.
678
00:32:06,792 --> 00:32:08,192
Thank you. Nothing further.
679
00:32:10,529 --> 00:32:12,464
Mrs. Lawlor, were
there any witnesses,
680
00:32:12,531 --> 00:32:15,467
other than yourself, who
saw Terry hug Diane?
681
00:32:16,201 --> 00:32:18,261
No.
682
00:32:19,204 --> 00:32:20,228
Do you drink?
683
00:32:20,305 --> 00:32:21,329
Objection. Relevance.
684
00:32:21,773 --> 00:32:23,173
Goes to credibility.
685
00:32:23,909 --> 00:32:26,310
Overruled. Answer the question.
686
00:32:26,711 --> 00:32:28,680
I have a few drinks every day.
687
00:32:28,914 --> 00:32:32,544
And isn't it true that on two
occasions you and your husband
688
00:32:32,617 --> 00:32:36,281
got into a fight so severe
neighbors had to call the police?
689
00:32:36,354 --> 00:32:37,354
Yes, but...
690
00:32:37,422 --> 00:32:41,325
That this was an example of the
kind of home you and Roy Lawlor kept,
691
00:32:41,393 --> 00:32:44,227
and it was Terry's
mother and grandfather...
692
00:32:44,296 --> 00:32:45,320
Objection.
693
00:32:45,397 --> 00:32:47,025
Who curtailed
Terry's visits, not you,
694
00:32:47,098 --> 00:32:49,090
because they
feared for his safety?
695
00:32:49,167 --> 00:32:50,328
He's testifying, Your Honor.
696
00:32:50,402 --> 00:32:51,461
Sustained.
697
00:32:51,803 --> 00:32:54,932
The jury will disregard
Mr. Weaver's last remark.
698
00:32:55,340 --> 00:32:57,138
No further questions.
699
00:32:59,211 --> 00:33:02,704
On certain occasions Terry told me
he thought he was being persecuted.
700
00:33:03,315 --> 00:33:05,546
For example, toward
the end of the school year,
701
00:33:05,617 --> 00:33:08,883
Terry was convinced that the other
students were conspiring against him.
702
00:33:08,954 --> 00:33:10,252
Did he tell you
how he knew this?
703
00:33:10,355 --> 00:33:12,085
Objection. Hearsay.
704
00:33:12,491 --> 00:33:15,154
The testimony isn't offered to
prove the truth of the statement,
705
00:33:15,727 --> 00:33:18,322
but to demonstrate the
defendant's state of mind at the time.
706
00:33:18,830 --> 00:33:21,322
Overruled. The
witness will answer.
707
00:33:21,733 --> 00:33:23,578
He said he could hear
the other students...
708
00:33:23,602 --> 00:33:26,037
Your Honor, may we
approach the bench?
709
00:33:30,609 --> 00:33:32,737
This witness is a
high school counselor.
710
00:33:33,078 --> 00:33:36,071
She's not accredited by any
graduate school of psychiatry
711
00:33:36,147 --> 00:33:37,342
or psychology...
712
00:33:37,415 --> 00:33:40,408
She isn't being asked to
offer a professional diagnosis,
713
00:33:40,485 --> 00:33:44,149
but only to describe observed
behavior, which any lay person can do.
714
00:33:44,456 --> 00:33:45,480
He's right, Mr. Weaver.
715
00:33:46,725 --> 00:33:49,786
Your Honor, in her
capacity as school counselor,
716
00:33:49,861 --> 00:33:52,922
anything she was told by my
client falls under patient privilege.
717
00:33:52,998 --> 00:33:54,364
He can't have it both ways.
718
00:33:54,599 --> 00:33:57,364
Either she's a qualified mental
health practitioner or she isn't.
719
00:33:57,869 --> 00:34:00,805
You really can't,
Mr. Weaver. Now step back.
720
00:34:02,207 --> 00:34:05,541
Ms. Garey, please answer
Mr. McCoy's question.
721
00:34:07,145 --> 00:34:08,923
He told me he could
hear the other students
722
00:34:08,947 --> 00:34:10,916
whispering about
him through the walls.
723
00:34:11,483 --> 00:34:14,647
What, if any, other behavior
did you notice around this time?
724
00:34:14,953 --> 00:34:16,785
Your Honor, we request a recess.
725
00:34:16,855 --> 00:34:18,289
For what purpose?
726
00:34:18,623 --> 00:34:20,558
To consult with
the District Attorney.
727
00:34:20,859 --> 00:34:21,859
Mr. McCoy?
728
00:34:21,927 --> 00:34:22,927
We have no objection.
729
00:34:23,061 --> 00:34:25,223
Very well. Court
is now in recess.
730
00:34:25,297 --> 00:34:27,391
We will reconvene at
10:00 a.m. tomorrow.
731
00:34:29,501 --> 00:34:32,198
We're prepared to plead to
second degree manslaughter.
732
00:34:32,938 --> 00:34:36,102
That fire was an accident.
There was no premeditation.
733
00:34:36,308 --> 00:34:39,073
And Terry certainly
didn't mean to hurt anyone.
734
00:34:39,344 --> 00:34:40,539
You'd let him go to jail?
735
00:34:40,679 --> 00:34:43,945
We're talking minimum
time in a juvenile facility.
736
00:34:44,649 --> 00:34:47,084
Prison is prison.
737
00:34:48,053 --> 00:34:50,784
Mr. Anderton, do you really think
that's where your grandson belongs?
738
00:34:50,855 --> 00:34:52,175
That's where you
want to send him.
739
00:34:52,223 --> 00:34:55,250
You heard the testimony. Your
grandson needs psychiatric help.
740
00:34:55,493 --> 00:34:56,654
Absolutely not!
741
00:34:56,728 --> 00:34:58,287
I don't understand
you, Mr. Anderton.
742
00:34:58,363 --> 00:35:00,161
We're offering him... What?
743
00:35:00,231 --> 00:35:01,893
The chance to
stay in a loony bin
744
00:35:01,967 --> 00:35:04,493
till some state employee
decides he can leave?
745
00:35:06,972 --> 00:35:10,807
I know what this is really
all about, Mr. McCoy.
746
00:35:12,477 --> 00:35:15,572
You're going after my
grandson to embarrass me.
747
00:35:16,114 --> 00:35:19,209
Yes! Personally,
professionally, publicly.
748
00:35:23,722 --> 00:35:28,092
I know your type. You think
that to bring down a man
749
00:35:28,159 --> 00:35:30,890
who's accomplished
something in life, it builds you up.
750
00:35:31,730 --> 00:35:33,722
You're not gonna
get away with it.
751
00:35:33,798 --> 00:35:35,767
I put a fair offer on the table.
752
00:35:36,501 --> 00:35:40,939
You turn it down, I'll go
public and I'll expose you
753
00:35:41,006 --> 00:35:45,569
for the vindictive, envious
little man you really are.
754
00:35:48,780 --> 00:35:51,025
Mr. Anderton? Can
you give us a statement?
755
00:35:51,049 --> 00:35:53,769
What were you talking to
the D.A. about, Mr. Anderton?
756
00:35:54,119 --> 00:35:56,384
Tell Mr. Anderton we'll
think about his offer.
757
00:36:01,126 --> 00:36:03,686
I don't get it. Is he
waiting for a better offer?
758
00:36:04,095 --> 00:36:05,996
Is he setting us
up for an appeal?
759
00:36:06,831 --> 00:36:07,924
What did Skoda say?
760
00:36:08,566 --> 00:36:12,697
Charming one minute, aggressive
and paranoid the next. Sound familiar?
761
00:36:13,972 --> 00:36:17,340
Carl Anderton. Like
grandfather, like grandson?
762
00:36:19,077 --> 00:36:21,308
Maybe that's the
conclusion he's afraid of.
763
00:36:21,379 --> 00:36:23,575
Get everything you can on him.
764
00:36:25,984 --> 00:36:29,477
In 1951, he was taken out of Andover
in the middle of the school year.
765
00:36:30,755 --> 00:36:32,223
Got homesick.
766
00:36:32,290 --> 00:36:34,370
He finished out the rest of
the year at Austen Riggs,
767
00:36:34,426 --> 00:36:36,122
the Boy's Town of
the rich and famous.
768
00:36:36,461 --> 00:36:39,863
He spent the next two
years at home with tutors.
769
00:36:41,099 --> 00:36:43,125
Carl was always high-spirited.
770
00:36:43,535 --> 00:36:45,197
This wasn't high spirits, Adam.
771
00:36:45,570 --> 00:36:48,096
I've tracked his press
clippings over the last 30 years.
772
00:36:48,173 --> 00:36:49,436
There are unexplained absences,
773
00:36:49,507 --> 00:36:51,032
or he checked
himself into a hospital,
774
00:36:51,109 --> 00:36:53,135
suffering from exhaustion.
775
00:36:53,211 --> 00:36:54,304
Next.
776
00:36:54,746 --> 00:36:58,046
Last April, he made a surprise
take-over bid for Commonwealth Airlines.
777
00:36:58,116 --> 00:36:59,675
One week later,
he withdrew the bid
778
00:36:59,751 --> 00:37:02,846
and accused the FAA and the
stockholders of conspiring against him.
779
00:37:03,455 --> 00:37:05,651
It's classic
manic-depressive behavior.
780
00:37:06,424 --> 00:37:10,452
Doesn't make sense. Runs
a Fortune 500 company.
781
00:37:10,562 --> 00:37:11,689
So did Howard Hughes.
782
00:37:11,763 --> 00:37:13,643
He could be fully
functional, if he's medicated.
783
00:37:14,999 --> 00:37:16,524
I don't want you
to humiliate him.
784
00:37:16,968 --> 00:37:20,632
He's standing between his own
grandson and an appropriate disposition.
785
00:37:21,372 --> 00:37:23,204
I want him to get
out of the way.
786
00:37:26,044 --> 00:37:29,037
Maybe his daughter can
talk some sense into him.
787
00:37:30,915 --> 00:37:32,577
My father loves my son.
788
00:37:32,884 --> 00:37:35,319
If Terry were sick, don't
you think he'd get him help?
789
00:37:35,620 --> 00:37:38,089
Unless he's afraid
it'd trace back to him.
790
00:37:38,189 --> 00:37:40,090
Trace what? The mental illness.
791
00:37:40,525 --> 00:37:43,188
I told you, my father's
in perfect mental health.
792
00:37:43,261 --> 00:37:45,355
He's a public figure.
People would've noticed.
793
00:37:45,430 --> 00:37:46,989
Not if he's taking medication.
794
00:37:47,265 --> 00:37:49,200
And maybe they have
noticed, Mrs. Lawlor.
795
00:37:49,734 --> 00:37:52,033
Look at how the
media describes him.
796
00:37:52,103 --> 00:37:55,403
Colorful, eccentric,
mercurial, unpredictable.
797
00:37:55,907 --> 00:37:59,537
This is not a smear. To a
psychiatrist it's code for unstable.
798
00:37:59,911 --> 00:38:02,403
See for yourself. Check
his medicine cabinet.
799
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,848
If he's taking Tegretol,
Risperdal, valproic acid, lithium...
800
00:38:06,751 --> 00:38:09,050
My father only takes
medication to help him sleep,
801
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:10,554
to calm him down.
802
00:38:10,622 --> 00:38:11,954
His days are very stressful.
803
00:38:12,056 --> 00:38:14,855
Or to control his
unpredictable mood swings.
804
00:38:15,527 --> 00:38:17,758
Look, did your father tell you
805
00:38:17,829 --> 00:38:19,695
that he offered
to let Terry plead
806
00:38:19,764 --> 00:38:21,596
to Manslaughter in
the Second Degree?
807
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:25,461
Our offer is, he pleads not
guilty by reason of mental disease,
808
00:38:25,537 --> 00:38:28,200
he goes to a psychiatric
facility instead of to prison.
809
00:38:33,878 --> 00:38:36,814
My father is Terry's guardian.
810
00:38:37,715 --> 00:38:39,775
I don't have any
authority. I can't...
811
00:38:44,956 --> 00:38:46,515
I don't know what to do.
812
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:56,732
What are you doing here?
813
00:38:56,935 --> 00:38:58,426
Adam, what is
this, some kind of...
814
00:38:58,536 --> 00:39:02,496
I invited her, on the off-chance
that someone in your family
815
00:39:02,574 --> 00:39:04,736
would act in your
grandson's best interests.
816
00:39:05,043 --> 00:39:06,187
What's that supposed to mean?
817
00:39:06,211 --> 00:39:09,773
Mr. Anderton, let's just find
out what McCoy decided.
818
00:39:11,382 --> 00:39:12,611
You thought about our offer?
819
00:39:16,221 --> 00:39:17,746
Man two? Out of the question.
820
00:39:18,723 --> 00:39:23,320
The choice is man one or not
guilty by reason of mental disease.
821
00:39:23,428 --> 00:39:24,726
Back to that?
822
00:39:25,196 --> 00:39:27,241
When are you going to get
it through your thick skull.
823
00:39:27,265 --> 00:39:28,893
My grandson doesn't
belong in a hospital.
824
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,196
Daddy, he does need help.
825
00:39:31,936 --> 00:39:33,404
You wait outside
until we're through.
826
00:39:33,872 --> 00:39:35,204
She's staying.
827
00:39:35,506 --> 00:39:36,974
Outside. ELAINE: No.
828
00:39:41,045 --> 00:39:43,105
It doesn't matter what
she thinks. I'm his guardian.
829
00:39:43,181 --> 00:39:45,412
That can change, Mr. Anderton.
830
00:39:46,284 --> 00:39:48,116
You've got to
agree to this, Carl.
831
00:39:48,186 --> 00:39:50,519
We're gonna petition
to have her appointed
832
00:39:50,588 --> 00:39:53,319
Guardian ad Litem
of your grandson.
833
00:39:53,725 --> 00:39:54,920
What? On what basis?
834
00:39:55,426 --> 00:39:56,655
Mental competency.
835
00:39:56,828 --> 00:39:57,852
Whose?
836
00:39:59,664 --> 00:40:00,757
Yours.
837
00:40:02,934 --> 00:40:05,529
We know about your
stay at Austen Riggs,
838
00:40:06,037 --> 00:40:08,097
the private tutors, hospitals...
839
00:40:08,940 --> 00:40:10,966
It was exhaustion. That's all.
840
00:40:11,042 --> 00:40:14,706
Once we start proceedings,
issue subpoenas, everyone'll know.
841
00:40:16,014 --> 00:40:17,209
I'm sorry, Carl.
842
00:40:18,583 --> 00:40:20,609
You trust these people over me?
843
00:40:21,653 --> 00:40:22,814
Huh?
844
00:40:24,756 --> 00:40:27,851
Oh, they finally got to
you, didn't they, Adam?
845
00:40:27,926 --> 00:40:31,328
After all these years,
you finally caved, huh?
846
00:40:32,897 --> 00:40:37,392
Ah, this thing,
this accusation...
847
00:40:37,502 --> 00:40:38,942
Don't you see
they've used it before,
848
00:40:38,970 --> 00:40:40,336
the newspapers, the networks...
849
00:40:40,538 --> 00:40:44,373
You've seen the hints, the way
Commonwealth tried to smear me.
850
00:40:45,410 --> 00:40:47,709
You know why? Because
they were always afraid of me.
851
00:40:48,980 --> 00:40:50,243
'Cause of my energy.
852
00:40:52,150 --> 00:40:54,483
It's the way I got things done!
853
00:40:55,753 --> 00:41:00,851
You let them do
this, it will never stop.
854
00:41:01,793 --> 00:41:07,460
Once it starts...
Starts! It never stops.
855
00:41:08,599 --> 00:41:10,067
And then... It's okay.
856
00:41:10,301 --> 00:41:11,894
And then... It's okay, Daddy.
857
00:41:13,104 --> 00:41:14,197
Adam,
858
00:41:16,007 --> 00:41:20,069
Adam, please, please, please,
don't let them do this to me. Please.
859
00:41:23,614 --> 00:41:24,809
Please.
860
00:41:31,489 --> 00:41:33,424
I remember thinking
that my step-sister
861
00:41:33,491 --> 00:41:35,084
had some kind of
862
00:41:36,294 --> 00:41:37,785
a demon inside her.
863
00:41:38,763 --> 00:41:39,992
A demon?
864
00:41:42,266 --> 00:41:44,394
It had to do with why
my dad was an alcoholic.
865
00:41:46,337 --> 00:41:52,038
I had this idea that if I built a
fire, I could scare the demon away.
866
00:41:54,145 --> 00:42:00,551
I read in some book that Native
Americans use fire to purify the innocent.
867
00:42:02,587 --> 00:42:04,647
I just wanted my
dad to stop drinking.
868
00:42:07,358 --> 00:42:09,759
I wanted that
more than anything.
869
00:42:11,462 --> 00:42:13,988
Why didn't you tell
anyone you set the fire?
870
00:42:15,833 --> 00:42:16,994
I did.
871
00:42:18,202 --> 00:42:20,068
I told my grandfather
when I got home.
872
00:42:22,373 --> 00:42:24,365
He told me not to talk about it.
873
00:42:25,943 --> 00:42:28,378
That he'd make sure that
I wouldn't get in trouble.
874
00:42:30,214 --> 00:42:31,546
Mr. McCoy?
875
00:42:34,352 --> 00:42:35,820
The People are
satisfied, Your Honor.
876
00:42:36,487 --> 00:42:37,887
Very well.
877
00:42:39,257 --> 00:42:45,288
Terence Lawlor, you're hereby
remanded to a secure facility
878
00:42:46,464 --> 00:42:50,265
to be designated by the Commissioner
of the Department of Mental Hygiene
879
00:42:50,768 --> 00:42:53,932
until such time as a panel
of doctors has determined
880
00:42:54,038 --> 00:42:57,668
you're no longer a danger
to yourself or to society.
881
00:42:58,076 --> 00:42:59,135
We're adjourned.
882
00:43:24,001 --> 00:43:25,435
Sorry about your friend.
883
00:43:26,237 --> 00:43:30,800
Save your sympathy. We
haven't heard the last of him.
884
00:43:32,276 --> 00:43:34,438
Living with that
secret all these years,
885
00:43:34,512 --> 00:43:36,640
it must have taken
enormous will power.
886
00:43:36,914 --> 00:43:39,008
Yeah. Carl always had that.
887
00:43:39,383 --> 00:43:41,545
Whenever he did something bold,
888
00:43:41,619 --> 00:43:44,316
the Lindsay campaign,
take-over bids,
889
00:43:45,590 --> 00:43:51,587
the op-ed pundits would call him
crazy, and Carl would just smile.
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