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[dramatic music]
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- Whoa, nobody's shooting me.
Nobody's shooting me.
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Nobody's shooting me.
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There's three shooters to make
sure somebody is shooting me.
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You got me acting crazy
in front of all these people.
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Disney paying a lot
for this motherfucking art
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I'm going to give them--
fuck that.
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- During those times,
I had to wonder
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what was going on in his head.
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Like, why is he really angry?
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[hip-hop music]
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- It was shocking to me.
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What's really
going on out here?
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[indistinct chatter
over police radio]
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- We need to be asking
the question...
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not what's wrong with you...
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but what happened to you?
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[dramatic music]
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- Sean and I--
we grew up together as kids.
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I know Sean.
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And he's made
so many mistakes.
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- Fuck that. I'm going to give
them their money's worth.
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- I used to work
with Sean Combs.
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And I don't want to be here
to talk about another man
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unless their business
crosses my business.
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[voice breaking]
If you only knew
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the shit
I fucking been through.
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There was a bounty
that was put on to silence me.
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- I'm back, baby.
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- It's a lot worse than
what the public knows.
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- [crying]
It's been 20 years.
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I haven't said anything
for so long.
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- Mr. Combs!
[cheering]
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- I've gone from Harlem
to Hollywood.
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[indistinct chatter]
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Diddy finally has the key
to the city!
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[cheering]
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I'm gonna show y'all
how we have fun
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and stay out of jail, too...
- Whoa.
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- And make money.
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[dog barks]
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- Like, just show me
what's around here.
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We'll walk with you.
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- So, yeah, so...
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about 1,100 square feet.
- Uh-huh.
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- Small, but it's
kind of spacious.
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It works for me.
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But I've been here
since around 2019.
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We're somewhere
in the woods, way remote,
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I guess what they call
these days "off-grid."
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- So this is pretty similar
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to what it was like
growing up for you?
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- Right now?
- Yeah.
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- No, no, this is
a little different.
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But I grew up weird.
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I grew up in the ghetto,
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and then I moved over into
the suburbs, where Sean lived.
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My reason
for having you guys here
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is because I truly believe
that what's going on right now
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is bigger than you.
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It's bigger than me.
It's bigger than media.
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It's bigger than this world.
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I just know
that where I am now,
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amongst all the noise...
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- We begin with breaking news.
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- Mr. Combs has been accused
of sexual assault.
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- Amongst all the headlines...
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- Rap star Sean "Puffy" Combs
is out on bail this morning.
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- There is
a federal investigation
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into sex trafficking.
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- Amongst all the chaos...
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- Abuse, harassment,
forced drugging.
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- Physically assaulting...
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- Multiple homes raided
by federal law enforcement.
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- He is public enemy
number one right now.
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And a lot of things that are
being attached to Sean now...
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I can't condone
any of the things
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that I've heard or seen.
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He's "monsterized" now.
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But monsters are made.
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You know,
that's my little bro.
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You know, I know Sean,
not Diddy, not Daddy Love.
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I don't know those people.
I don't know them.
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I swear I don't know them.
I've never met those people.
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I have to tell people
about what they don't know
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about his childhood.
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The making of Sean Combs...
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Sean is the son
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of two Harlem "it" people.
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Janice is Sean's mom.
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Speaking of Janice,
this is Janice here.
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And Melvin is Sean's dad.
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And Sean--he grew up
in Mount Vernon.
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That's where they built
a house.
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Now, here's the context
of it all.
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Mount Vernon is
a 4-square-mile city,
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maybe 25, 30 minutes
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from Manhattan--
New York proper.
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And at the north side is
where you would love to live
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because it's
the residential side.
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It's grass. It's birds.
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It's everything
the south side isn't.
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The south side,
that's your ghetto.
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That's where
I was born and raised
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until about five years old.
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This is a town you come to
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to get away from the hip town,
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to kind of integrate yourself
into some type of normalcy.
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Melvin--I've never met him,
never knew him.
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He passed before I met Sean.
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Why he wasn't there was just
a mystery to both of us.
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So Sean had to learn
about his dad
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through other fellas
that came up during that time.
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- Sean Combs' father
was allegedly...
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a gangster, a hustler,
and a player
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in the streets of New York.
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- Melvin was a part
of a group of guys
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that was led by Nicky Barnes...
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big Harlem kingpin,
if you want to call it.
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- His father sold
to an undercover cop.
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[siren wailing]
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This was a New York City
police officer.
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And he gave
the cop information.
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His father was killed because
he was ratting them out.
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- I don't know how he died.
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I don't know.
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I just know Janet
woke up one day,
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and he was not there,
and Sean was.
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Janice was left a lot of money.
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There was a brand-new house,
and Janet had to pivot.
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And her desire was
to occupy that house
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with someone that had a son
close to the age of her son.
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- My mom knew Janet,
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and somehow, someway,
they hooked up,
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and we were offered the bottom
floor on her brand-new house
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that her and Melvin had built.
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And we had a chance now
to move on the north side.
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So, when we pulled up
to this house,
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I saw a whole new world,
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and all I did was look
at these two people,
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because what I saw,
I saw Black people like myself,
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but they had
a different color Black.
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It was golden. It was shiny.
It was healthy.
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They had really nice clothes
and jewelry.
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So we get up to the house.
We get out the car.
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Janice says, well, wait
a minute, let me go get Sean.
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And she goes upstairs.
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She comes back down
with this little kid.
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And I look at him
like, oh, my God,
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this guy is different.
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He's the one in the hat.
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And you can see
he has jewelry on.
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He has rings on.
He has bracelets on.
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This is a 4-year-old
in a 30-year-old's wardrobe.
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- My first interaction
with Sean Combs--
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He wasn't Puffy yet--
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We were playing baseball
down at Brush Park
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in Mount Vernon, New York.
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He was on Little League,
had braces.
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And he's a shy guy.
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You know, he wasn't real loud
and boisterous.
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I don't know
if he was goodgood,
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to where I would say
he was good in baseball.
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He was on the team.
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Even with the football,
it was like,
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he played football
at Mount Saint Michael.
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I'm not going to
say he was good.
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I heard he was on the team.
[laughs]
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- So I first met Puff
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when he came to a cousin
of mine's house party.
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He was part
of a dancing fashion crew
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called 7-Up Crew.
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And those guys would go
throughout New York City,
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battle people
in dancing, fashion.
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He also was one
of the first kids that I knew
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that had, like, a Gucci watch.
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- He always had all the best
of everything.
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Like, Sean didn't go
to school with us.
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Sean went to the Catholic
school, private school.
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- Private school.
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They always say that--
oh, yeah, he's doing good.
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Got him in private school.
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- This kid is rich.
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He was looked at
as the rich kid.
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Sean was the different kid.
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Sean was the kid that people
could smell was not tough.
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Sean was always bullied.
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You know, getting hit
up your head,
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on the side of your head
one too many times
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or getting called a bitch
one too many times.
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There's one kid in particular.
Name was Jonathan.
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He was about 6 feet tall
at 12 years old--
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real big, husky dude.
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And for some reason,
Jonathan would pick on him.
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And he would pick on him
and hit him and make him cry
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and take his bike
and just do mean stuff...
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to the point where
I couldn't watch that happen.
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I had to intervene,
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because my interaction
with Sean was a protector.
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It was a bigger bro.
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When something's done to them,
you step up.
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But after I graduated
high school
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and I went into military,
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Sean didn't have me
around anymore.
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- There's been
quite a bit of research done
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on a body of work
that we really refer to a lot.
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It's called
Adverse Childhood Experiences,
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or ACEs.
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It can be everything
from witnessing
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domestic violence,
physical abuse.
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It could be having
a parent who's absent.
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Here's a man who lost
his father early in life
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under some very violent,
tragic circumstances.
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If you've lost a parent,
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there's a desire
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to belong to something
bigger than yourself,
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to not be isolated,
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to belong to a group,
to fit in.
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- This is one of the pictures
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before Puff joined
the Same Gang.
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I started the Same Gang
in '89.
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We were men that came together,
and we went to parties.
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You know, we clubbed.
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You had some guys
that was hustling.
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Puff--man, he want
to be with us.
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He want to be with us.
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A lot of guys didn't want him
a part of the Same Gang
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because he didn't live
in Harlem.
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The dudes
didn't really like him.
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All right,
so one day we decided--
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they said,
Puff, come over here.
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We're going to have
the young'uns tighten him up.
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[indistinct shouting]
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And we gonna smash him
in the head...
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Rough him up,
or stuff like that.
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[indistinct shouting]
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When Puff came,
we was all out there.
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00:12:31,505 --> 00:12:32,807
And the young guys grabbed him.
255
00:12:32,907 --> 00:12:35,242
* *
256
00:12:35,342 --> 00:12:36,944
And they start trying
to rough him up.
257
00:12:37,044 --> 00:12:39,046
And he jetted, running.
258
00:12:40,915 --> 00:12:43,184
They brought him back
to rough him up,
259
00:12:43,284 --> 00:12:46,287
smash stuff, hit him
in the head with cakes
260
00:12:46,387 --> 00:12:49,056
and all this other stuff
like that.
261
00:12:49,156 --> 00:12:53,060
After that,
Puff was in the Same Gang.
262
00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:55,896
This is the picture...
263
00:12:55,996 --> 00:12:58,499
when he crossed over
into the Same Gang.
264
00:12:58,599 --> 00:13:01,068
He got
the Same Gang T-shirt on.
265
00:13:04,805 --> 00:13:07,108
[chain saw whirring]
266
00:13:09,210 --> 00:13:13,347
- When I got home
from the military--
267
00:13:13,447 --> 00:13:16,951
and Sean and I hadn't seen
each other in a while,
268
00:13:17,051 --> 00:13:20,021
and, you know, I'm like,
what's up, Sean?
269
00:13:20,121 --> 00:13:23,024
He's like, yeah,
they call me Puff now.
270
00:13:23,124 --> 00:13:24,859
They call me Puff.
271
00:13:26,460 --> 00:13:28,796
I was being
looked at as a punk.
272
00:13:28,896 --> 00:13:30,331
I was being looked at
as a pushover.
273
00:13:30,431 --> 00:13:32,099
I was being looked at
as a sissy,
274
00:13:32,199 --> 00:13:34,101
as a wimp, as a goofy.
275
00:13:34,201 --> 00:13:37,338
I ain't even trying to know
that person again.
276
00:13:38,906 --> 00:13:40,341
And I'm a Puff Daddy now.
277
00:13:40,441 --> 00:13:44,145
* *
278
00:13:44,245 --> 00:13:47,248
- So that insecurity,
the need to fit in...
279
00:13:47,348 --> 00:13:48,949
- I had a great time.
- Yeah?
280
00:13:49,050 --> 00:13:50,818
- I'm glad
they invited me back.
281
00:13:50,918 --> 00:13:52,053
- The need to feel powerful.
282
00:13:52,153 --> 00:13:53,521
[paparazzi shouting]
283
00:13:53,621 --> 00:13:55,056
Some perpetrators
284
00:13:55,156 --> 00:13:57,458
are profoundly damaged
individuals...
285
00:13:57,558 --> 00:14:00,061
[loud cheering]
286
00:14:00,161 --> 00:14:03,798
And feel very powerless.
287
00:14:03,898 --> 00:14:06,967
And a way of being powerful
288
00:14:07,068 --> 00:14:10,004
is controlling
and victimizing other people.
289
00:14:10,104 --> 00:14:12,339
- What's up with your
relationship with Jennifer?
290
00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:16,811
- I am a civil litigator
who has filed several cases
291
00:14:16,911 --> 00:14:19,780
against Sean Combs
for sexual assault
292
00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:21,382
in civil court.
293
00:14:21,482 --> 00:14:26,120
I have been sounding the alarm
about Mr. Combs for years.
294
00:14:26,220 --> 00:14:29,056
He is a man who has done
awful things
295
00:14:29,156 --> 00:14:31,992
to hundreds,
maybe thousands of people.
296
00:14:32,093 --> 00:14:33,894
- I'm wilder, I'm crazier.
297
00:14:33,994 --> 00:14:35,930
- I want to speak
about this now
298
00:14:36,030 --> 00:14:38,099
because I witnessed everything.
299
00:14:38,199 --> 00:14:40,134
- [crying] I haven't said
anything for so long,
300
00:14:40,234 --> 00:14:42,903
and it's built up--
it's been 20 years.
301
00:14:43,003 --> 00:14:45,873
- Um...
302
00:14:45,973 --> 00:14:48,242
[crying]
I don't trust anyone...
303
00:14:48,342 --> 00:14:50,411
* *
304
00:14:50,511 --> 00:14:54,782
Because I'm afraid that they
might come get me for speaking.
305
00:14:54,882 --> 00:14:58,085
* *
306
00:15:02,623 --> 00:15:04,825
[soft music]
307
00:15:04,925 --> 00:15:05,926
- Go.
308
00:15:06,027 --> 00:15:07,828
The very first girlfriend
309
00:15:07,928 --> 00:15:10,364
Sean had that I met...
310
00:15:10,464 --> 00:15:12,433
was named Tracy.
311
00:15:12,533 --> 00:15:14,168
She was from Brooklyn.
312
00:15:14,268 --> 00:15:17,038
We were older now,
teenagers and stuff.
313
00:15:17,138 --> 00:15:19,340
So Tracy used to come
to the house.
314
00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:22,510
I'm sure he had college girls,
but I wasn't around.
315
00:15:24,979 --> 00:15:27,448
[dramatic music]
316
00:15:27,548 --> 00:15:30,151
- I know some girls
that he's dated, you know,
317
00:15:30,251 --> 00:15:32,353
that have called him
a perfect gentleman.
318
00:15:32,453 --> 00:15:35,489
But when Sean started getting
more and more popular
319
00:15:35,589 --> 00:15:38,392
and he had one
of the hot girls on campus,
320
00:15:38,492 --> 00:15:40,528
there was a lot of jealousy
that went on.
321
00:15:42,563 --> 00:15:44,932
Maybe his personality
might not have been
322
00:15:45,032 --> 00:15:47,501
the most sensitive.
323
00:15:47,601 --> 00:15:50,438
I'm not sure what Puff
might have been focused on,
324
00:15:50,538 --> 00:15:53,974
but I just know
that he had a love for music.
325
00:15:54,075 --> 00:15:56,410
- Back when I was
going to Howard in '87,
326
00:15:56,510 --> 00:15:59,213
I was trying to get
into the music industry.
327
00:15:59,313 --> 00:16:03,384
Everybody was looking at me
like I was crazy.
328
00:16:03,484 --> 00:16:06,253
- I met Puffy on Howard's
campus for the first time.
329
00:16:06,353 --> 00:16:08,289
I was actually the first person
on Howard's campus
330
00:16:08,389 --> 00:16:10,391
to have a drum machine
at that time.
331
00:16:10,491 --> 00:16:12,326
And I've been
in the music industry
332
00:16:12,426 --> 00:16:15,129
ever since I was probably
15 years old.
333
00:16:15,229 --> 00:16:17,264
So he wanted to get with me
334
00:16:17,365 --> 00:16:20,134
because he knew
that I had connections.
335
00:16:20,234 --> 00:16:21,902
He would tell you that,
336
00:16:22,002 --> 00:16:25,473
I'm going to be the biggest
record producer in the world.
337
00:16:25,573 --> 00:16:29,443
Like, he already knew what
he wanted at Howard University.
338
00:16:29,543 --> 00:16:32,413
- He hung out with a lot
of friends from Mount Vernon.
339
00:16:32,513 --> 00:16:35,616
One of our biggest celebs
from Mount Vernon,
340
00:16:35,716 --> 00:16:37,151
his name is Heavy D.
341
00:16:37,251 --> 00:16:39,420
Heavy D came up to campus.
342
00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:42,556
- Heavy D was part
of Heavy D & the Boyz.
343
00:16:42,656 --> 00:16:47,361
They were actually the first
act signed to Uptown Records.
344
00:16:47,461 --> 00:16:51,032
Diddy spoke to his friend
Heavy D, and he said,
345
00:16:51,132 --> 00:16:53,134
can you get me an internship?
346
00:16:53,234 --> 00:16:56,437
Please get me an internship
at Uptown Records.
347
00:16:58,873 --> 00:17:00,341
- Hey, can you make
this happen?
348
00:17:03,044 --> 00:17:06,213
[loud cheering]
349
00:17:08,049 --> 00:17:09,350
- Uptown Records
350
00:17:09,450 --> 00:17:14,021
was modeled as
a boutique version of Motown,
351
00:17:14,121 --> 00:17:16,290
but we just had
the hip-hop flavor to it.
352
00:17:16,390 --> 00:17:18,359
I had a little bit
of success myself,
353
00:17:18,459 --> 00:17:22,396
being the first number-one
artist on Uptown
354
00:17:22,496 --> 00:17:25,466
and the first platinum
artist on Uptown.
355
00:17:25,566 --> 00:17:28,169
* *
356
00:17:28,269 --> 00:17:30,438
I don't think
that people ever knew
357
00:17:30,538 --> 00:17:34,508
that Al B. Sure! funded Uptown.
358
00:17:36,243 --> 00:17:37,978
I was working with Jodeci,
359
00:17:38,079 --> 00:17:40,114
Mary J. Blige,
360
00:17:40,214 --> 00:17:42,216
Heavy D & the Boyz.
361
00:17:42,316 --> 00:17:45,152
We took a company
like Uptown from zero
362
00:17:45,252 --> 00:17:47,588
and made it into
a billion-dollar corporation
363
00:17:47,688 --> 00:17:49,023
or somewhere close.
364
00:17:49,123 --> 00:17:51,292
[cell phone rings]
- Hello?
365
00:17:51,392 --> 00:17:54,195
- Sean wanted to work
at Uptown.
366
00:17:54,295 --> 00:17:56,297
He actually did some more,
like, suffering
367
00:17:56,397 --> 00:18:00,101
just to, you know, get
that internship.
368
00:18:00,201 --> 00:18:02,103
- So Sean would show up
in the weirdest places--
369
00:18:02,203 --> 00:18:04,238
at Heavy D's doorstep.
370
00:18:04,338 --> 00:18:06,507
He'd show up at Uptown,
he'd show up at parties--
371
00:18:06,607 --> 00:18:09,043
anything to get the attention
of the bigwigs.
372
00:18:09,143 --> 00:18:11,445
- He was really trying to get
373
00:18:11,545 --> 00:18:15,182
Andre Harrell's, the president
of Uptown Records, attention.
374
00:18:15,282 --> 00:18:16,584
From what I heard--
375
00:18:16,684 --> 00:18:19,186
is that he even,
like, slept outside of his car
376
00:18:19,286 --> 00:18:22,390
because he really wanted
to be in this.
377
00:18:22,490 --> 00:18:25,259
- And then Sean
forced his way in
378
00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:28,029
with what he can do for Andre
379
00:18:28,129 --> 00:18:29,697
and became an intern.
380
00:18:31,732 --> 00:18:36,570
* *
381
00:18:40,374 --> 00:18:43,377
- Yeah, I don't remember much.
382
00:18:43,477 --> 00:18:45,479
It's not like we hung out
on a daily basis
383
00:18:45,579 --> 00:18:47,715
and things of that nature.
384
00:18:47,815 --> 00:18:51,118
But what you do know
about Sean,
385
00:18:51,218 --> 00:18:54,388
one of Sean's
best attributes was,
386
00:18:54,488 --> 00:18:57,324
Sean let everybody know
in the camp,
387
00:18:57,425 --> 00:18:59,560
nobody's going to be
bigger than me.
388
00:18:59,660 --> 00:19:01,529
* *
389
00:19:01,629 --> 00:19:04,398
- At first, he was just really
just getting coffee,
390
00:19:04,498 --> 00:19:06,667
getting paper,
making Xerox copies.
391
00:19:06,767 --> 00:19:09,437
There wasn't that much money
in it yet.
392
00:19:09,537 --> 00:19:12,540
So he started
promoting parties.
393
00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:16,410
Now he's starting to make
some money with his parties.
394
00:19:16,510 --> 00:19:19,080
But at the same time,
there was an event.
395
00:19:19,180 --> 00:19:22,416
* *
396
00:19:22,516 --> 00:19:24,752
This is where he was going on
through some hard times.
397
00:19:26,887 --> 00:19:28,289
- That tragic event--
398
00:19:28,389 --> 00:19:30,224
I think the guy
wanted to kill himself...
399
00:19:30,324 --> 00:19:33,327
[chuckles]
Be honest with you.
400
00:19:33,427 --> 00:19:35,463
- He was a party promoter.
401
00:19:36,797 --> 00:19:40,401
But at the time, myself and
many other people
402
00:19:40,501 --> 00:19:44,138
did not know who Sean Combs,
"Puff Daddy" was,
403
00:19:44,238 --> 00:19:46,774
until the City College event.
404
00:19:46,874 --> 00:19:50,211
- Puff and Heavy D
decided to throw
405
00:19:50,311 --> 00:19:53,447
a celebrity charity
basketball game.
406
00:19:53,547 --> 00:19:57,218
And the proceeds was supposed
to go to an AIDS foundation.
407
00:19:57,318 --> 00:20:01,322
When you got Mike Tyson,
LL Cool J,
408
00:20:01,422 --> 00:20:03,758
Heavy D himself,
a big celebrity,
409
00:20:03,858 --> 00:20:06,627
the urban community
wanted to see that.
410
00:20:06,727 --> 00:20:09,230
* *
411
00:20:09,330 --> 00:20:11,265
Highly, highly publicized.
412
00:20:11,365 --> 00:20:14,301
It was promoted on WBLS.
413
00:20:14,402 --> 00:20:18,305
- 98.7 Kiss--
they were blasting it.
414
00:20:18,406 --> 00:20:20,274
If you didn't know
about that event,
415
00:20:20,374 --> 00:20:21,509
something was wrong with you,
416
00:20:21,609 --> 00:20:24,412
because it was
all over the place.
417
00:20:24,512 --> 00:20:27,548
- My sister, Sonya Williams--
418
00:20:27,648 --> 00:20:30,918
she met Sean through his
girlfriend at the time.
419
00:20:31,018 --> 00:20:33,320
And he gave her the ticket.
420
00:20:33,421 --> 00:20:35,556
- My brother was excited
about it.
421
00:20:35,656 --> 00:20:37,858
He called everyone up.
422
00:20:37,958 --> 00:20:39,894
Yo, meet me at City College.
423
00:20:39,994 --> 00:20:42,830
Had nothing...
424
00:20:42,930 --> 00:20:44,498
tragic happened,
425
00:20:44,598 --> 00:20:47,802
it would have been
the best event ever.
426
00:20:53,374 --> 00:20:55,443
[serious music]
427
00:20:55,543 --> 00:20:58,312
- December 28, 1991--
428
00:20:58,412 --> 00:21:01,182
wow, that was a day.
[scoffs]
429
00:21:01,282 --> 00:21:03,584
December 28, 1991.
430
00:21:03,684 --> 00:21:05,886
I remember, you know,
my phone was ringing,
431
00:21:05,986 --> 00:21:07,421
and people want tickets.
432
00:21:07,521 --> 00:21:10,458
Do you have tickets?
Can you get me tickets?
433
00:21:10,558 --> 00:21:11,759
- How y'all doing this morning?
434
00:21:11,859 --> 00:21:14,595
- At 22, Sean was a genius
at marketing.
435
00:21:14,695 --> 00:21:17,198
- They promoted it like it was
436
00:21:17,298 --> 00:21:20,801
in a 10,000-seat arena.
437
00:21:24,438 --> 00:21:27,208
- No, I said, WBLS promoted it
438
00:21:27,308 --> 00:21:30,244
as if it was a 10,000 seating.
439
00:21:30,344 --> 00:21:32,680
City College holds 2,700.
440
00:21:32,780 --> 00:21:34,482
[cheering]
441
00:21:34,582 --> 00:21:36,617
- Not only
was it filled inside,
442
00:21:36,717 --> 00:21:39,520
there was probably
just as many people outside
443
00:21:39,620 --> 00:21:40,955
that couldn't get inside.
444
00:21:41,055 --> 00:21:43,457
- There was this girl.
445
00:21:43,557 --> 00:21:48,462
And she was packed
in the glass door.
446
00:21:48,562 --> 00:21:50,231
And everybody was telling her,
yo, just go home.
447
00:21:50,331 --> 00:21:51,465
You can go out the back.
448
00:21:51,565 --> 00:21:53,501
- The crowd started
to get unruly.
449
00:21:53,601 --> 00:21:55,503
- The ticket crew
closed the door.
450
00:21:55,603 --> 00:21:58,039
- I heard, they locked me in.
451
00:21:58,139 --> 00:21:59,607
She locked the door.
452
00:21:59,707 --> 00:22:02,343
- Now they're crushed
against the door,
453
00:22:02,443 --> 00:22:05,312
like, packed, back to back.
454
00:22:05,413 --> 00:22:06,814
- When the crowd
rushed through...
455
00:22:06,914 --> 00:22:09,283
- All the glass and everything
just shattered.
456
00:22:09,383 --> 00:22:10,518
[imitates glass shattering]
457
00:22:10,618 --> 00:22:12,153
And people just
started running in.
458
00:22:12,253 --> 00:22:14,889
- And you got people piling up
on one another and another
459
00:22:14,989 --> 00:22:16,557
and another.
460
00:22:16,657 --> 00:22:18,492
And people are screaming,
just let me in, let me in.
461
00:22:18,592 --> 00:22:20,661
- And there were people who--
462
00:22:20,761 --> 00:22:24,365
My friends said they heard Dirk
smothered, like, mm...
463
00:22:24,465 --> 00:22:26,867
Like, they could hear him being
completely covered
464
00:22:26,967 --> 00:22:29,036
by the crowd.
465
00:22:29,136 --> 00:22:32,440
[screaming]
466
00:22:32,540 --> 00:22:35,543
- I ran around the gym,
opened one door.
467
00:22:35,643 --> 00:22:37,611
People start falling down
right there.
468
00:22:37,712 --> 00:22:41,015
Open up another door--people
start falling down there.
469
00:22:41,115 --> 00:22:43,884
[indistinct shouting]
470
00:22:45,586 --> 00:22:47,488
- I didn't see Diddy at all.
471
00:22:47,588 --> 00:22:49,790
- What I do see is him...
472
00:22:49,890 --> 00:22:52,993
Puffy, running around,
trying to save people.
473
00:22:53,094 --> 00:22:55,629
I saw him trying to give
474
00:22:55,730 --> 00:22:58,032
mouth-to-mouth resuscitation
to people.
475
00:22:58,132 --> 00:23:02,269
- I never saw Sean Combs
476
00:23:02,370 --> 00:23:06,440
give anyone CPR.
477
00:23:06,540 --> 00:23:08,609
If anybody tells you that,
478
00:23:08,709 --> 00:23:11,645
they telling a flat-out lie.
479
00:23:11,746 --> 00:23:14,348
- Ain't nobody wanted to give
them mouth-to-mouth,
480
00:23:14,448 --> 00:23:16,083
no people mouth-to-mouth
or none of that.
481
00:23:16,183 --> 00:23:17,685
- I can't even perform CPR
482
00:23:17,785 --> 00:23:19,820
because everybody's trying
to crowd around and look.
483
00:23:28,562 --> 00:23:29,463
- 9 young people
crushed to death,
484
00:23:29,563 --> 00:23:30,698
27 others injured trying to get
485
00:23:30,798 --> 00:23:32,600
into a celebrity
basketball game.
486
00:23:32,700 --> 00:23:35,436
- My brother was pronounced
dead at 7:50.
487
00:23:35,536 --> 00:23:37,438
And he got there,
I think, at 7:00.
488
00:23:37,538 --> 00:23:39,874
- My sister's name
is Sonya Williams.
489
00:23:39,974 --> 00:23:42,743
That's Sonya,
the larger picture.
490
00:23:42,843 --> 00:23:46,514
And this is the stairwell
that she died in.
491
00:23:46,614 --> 00:23:49,850
- Jabaal, Dawn,
Leonard, Sonya, Dirk,
492
00:23:49,950 --> 00:23:53,921
Charise, Darren,
Laytesha, and Yul
493
00:23:54,021 --> 00:23:55,589
from New York City.
494
00:23:55,690 --> 00:23:58,492
[dramatic music]
495
00:23:58,592 --> 00:24:00,528
City College 9.
496
00:24:00,628 --> 00:24:02,730
- And I just pray
for the families.
497
00:24:02,830 --> 00:24:05,800
And I pray for the children
that lost their lives.
498
00:24:05,900 --> 00:24:09,804
- The news is, he oversold
an event, him and Heavy D.
499
00:24:09,904 --> 00:24:12,206
And you know why?
Because their names were on it.
500
00:24:12,306 --> 00:24:13,708
- I was a promoter
of the event.
501
00:24:13,808 --> 00:24:15,810
- This thing,
somehow or another,
502
00:24:15,910 --> 00:24:20,481
made him
the most famous guy around.
503
00:24:20,581 --> 00:24:22,416
- How you doing?
- Come on.
504
00:24:22,516 --> 00:24:24,485
- Puffy became more known.
505
00:24:24,585 --> 00:24:27,488
It almost made him,
in a real weird way.
506
00:24:27,588 --> 00:24:29,190
Yeah.
507
00:24:29,290 --> 00:24:30,691
- I just wish that everyone
508
00:24:30,791 --> 00:24:33,761
would just admit
their mistakes,
509
00:24:33,861 --> 00:24:35,796
live up
to their responsibilities.
510
00:24:35,896 --> 00:24:37,698
- He wasn't criminally charged,
511
00:24:37,798 --> 00:24:39,934
but there were lawsuits
that he had to deal with.
512
00:24:40,034 --> 00:24:43,070
- Those families are asking
a judge to decide fault
513
00:24:43,170 --> 00:24:44,805
and award a penalty.
514
00:24:44,905 --> 00:24:47,141
- When my mother
was in litigation
515
00:24:47,241 --> 00:24:48,576
with the other families,
516
00:24:48,676 --> 00:24:50,444
then the details
start coming out.
517
00:24:50,544 --> 00:24:52,513
You promoted this event.
518
00:24:52,613 --> 00:24:54,682
You didn't hire
enough security.
519
00:24:54,782 --> 00:24:56,817
You oversold the tickets.
520
00:24:56,917 --> 00:24:59,687
Someone took the money,
ran down the stairs,
521
00:24:59,787 --> 00:25:01,188
and shut the door.
522
00:25:01,288 --> 00:25:03,824
* *
523
00:25:03,924 --> 00:25:06,660
We was in litigation
with this for six years.
524
00:25:06,761 --> 00:25:09,597
So now his music
is doing well.
525
00:25:09,697 --> 00:25:11,065
[paparazzi shouting]
526
00:25:11,165 --> 00:25:13,067
Sean John is getting
ready to come out.
527
00:25:13,167 --> 00:25:17,171
- This is Sean John, Sean John.
I'm wearing Sean John.
528
00:25:17,271 --> 00:25:19,707
- So he's doing very well.
529
00:25:19,807 --> 00:25:23,677
He calls me
to the BMG building.
530
00:25:23,778 --> 00:25:25,646
You know, it's just me
and him in the office,
531
00:25:25,746 --> 00:25:27,081
and he seemed very nervous.
532
00:25:27,181 --> 00:25:30,751
He seemed so nervous
that his lips turned white.
533
00:25:30,851 --> 00:25:34,188
And he says, Sonny, I'm going
to offer you $50,000.
534
00:25:36,190 --> 00:25:38,359
So I remember looking
around the office,
535
00:25:38,459 --> 00:25:40,861
and I'm seeing all these
plaques now on the wall--
536
00:25:40,961 --> 00:25:42,930
platinum plaques, gold plaques.
537
00:25:43,030 --> 00:25:45,232
I said, brother,
you got all this going on,
538
00:25:45,332 --> 00:25:48,769
and you offering me $50,000?
539
00:25:48,869 --> 00:25:51,072
- He says, Sonny, man,
listen, man, you know,
540
00:25:51,172 --> 00:25:52,573
that's real generous.
541
00:25:52,673 --> 00:25:54,208
That's a generous donation.
542
00:25:54,308 --> 00:25:57,011
And I lost it.
543
00:25:57,111 --> 00:26:00,548
I said, is Sonya
your fucking friend?
544
00:26:00,648 --> 00:26:03,517
You offer me $50,000...
545
00:26:03,617 --> 00:26:06,153
and you gave Sonya the ticket
546
00:26:06,253 --> 00:26:08,589
to go to that event?
547
00:26:08,689 --> 00:26:10,858
That was a slap in my face.
548
00:26:10,958 --> 00:26:12,993
I don't want to talk money.
549
00:26:13,094 --> 00:26:16,864
I want you to help me do
something in their memory.
550
00:26:16,964 --> 00:26:20,501
I said, but is Sonya
your friend?
551
00:26:20,601 --> 00:26:22,837
He wouldn't answer me.
552
00:26:23,938 --> 00:26:27,141
So I go out.
I go out the room.
553
00:26:27,241 --> 00:26:29,009
So now I'm conflicted.
554
00:26:29,110 --> 00:26:31,712
Maybe you should take it,
and maybe he'll work with you
555
00:26:31,812 --> 00:26:34,715
and help you
with the foundation.
556
00:26:34,815 --> 00:26:36,884
So I go back in the office.
557
00:26:36,984 --> 00:26:39,120
I said, listen, man,
I don't want you bringing up
558
00:26:39,220 --> 00:26:43,224
money and Sonya
in the same sentence.
559
00:26:43,324 --> 00:26:45,026
I said, $50,000?
560
00:26:45,126 --> 00:26:47,762
He said, Sonny, please,
man, trust me, man.
561
00:26:47,862 --> 00:26:50,931
It's a good donation.
562
00:26:55,770 --> 00:26:58,205
I reluctantly did it.
563
00:27:04,812 --> 00:27:06,814
- All families settled
564
00:27:06,914 --> 00:27:10,284
and were giving
a settlement amount.
565
00:27:11,752 --> 00:27:14,689
We got $40,000
566
00:27:14,789 --> 00:27:17,258
from Sean Combs directly.
567
00:27:17,358 --> 00:27:18,893
[paparazzi shouting]
568
00:27:18,993 --> 00:27:21,962
But he never owned up
to it, never--
569
00:27:22,063 --> 00:27:24,298
never just said, I apologize.
570
00:27:24,398 --> 00:27:27,902
There's a clip of him saying
that it wasn't overbooked.
571
00:27:28,002 --> 00:27:30,805
- You know, we sold tickets,
but we didn't outsell.
572
00:27:30,905 --> 00:27:32,707
The place--it wasn't sold out.
573
00:27:32,807 --> 00:27:35,009
- That's a blatant lie.
574
00:27:35,109 --> 00:27:38,045
[paparazzi shouting,
people screaming]
575
00:27:38,145 --> 00:27:40,681
His image is important
for him.
576
00:27:40,781 --> 00:27:43,884
The lies go back
to City College.
577
00:27:43,984 --> 00:27:45,720
- Everything I do every day,
578
00:27:45,820 --> 00:27:48,956
I try to be a shining example
of hard work
579
00:27:49,056 --> 00:27:50,825
and what you get
if you work hard.
580
00:27:50,925 --> 00:27:53,227
- Had someone
found him accountable,
581
00:27:53,327 --> 00:27:55,529
it may have just slowed down
the process
582
00:27:55,629 --> 00:27:59,734
of all the other things that
happened to other people.
583
00:27:59,834 --> 00:28:01,535
- Here with Al B. Sure!
584
00:28:01,635 --> 00:28:04,071
Mr. Al B., I'm getting a lot
of letters about you, man,
585
00:28:04,171 --> 00:28:06,107
a lot of ladies
out there watching.
586
00:28:06,207 --> 00:28:08,275
And they want to see,
what's behind those glasses?
587
00:28:08,376 --> 00:28:09,877
[laughter]
588
00:28:09,977 --> 00:28:12,613
- Before Sean was an intern,
589
00:28:12,713 --> 00:28:15,716
I met a woman, Kimberly.
590
00:28:15,816 --> 00:28:18,786
One day, I was backstage,
591
00:28:18,886 --> 00:28:19,920
Madison Square Garden.
592
00:28:20,021 --> 00:28:22,823
And the first time I laid eyes
593
00:28:22,923 --> 00:28:25,359
on Kimberly Antwinette...
594
00:28:25,459 --> 00:28:28,396
Porter...
595
00:28:28,496 --> 00:28:30,364
we met.
596
00:28:30,464 --> 00:28:31,899
[softly]
That was it.
597
00:28:31,999 --> 00:28:33,968
[normal voice]
Yo, I swear.
598
00:28:34,068 --> 00:28:36,771
[laughs] I still feel like
a little kid when I remember.
599
00:28:36,871 --> 00:28:38,239
That's crazy.
600
00:28:39,974 --> 00:28:42,243
We had a son, Quincy.
601
00:28:42,343 --> 00:28:46,180
- Al had influence in getting
Kim a job at Uptown,
602
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:50,084
and Kim became
the receptionist.
603
00:28:50,184 --> 00:28:53,020
- At one point, I was
working on K-Ci & JoJo
604
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:54,388
on one of the soundtracks.
605
00:28:54,488 --> 00:28:55,990
Sean came by the studio.
606
00:28:56,090 --> 00:28:58,025
I believe
he may have been with...
607
00:28:58,125 --> 00:29:01,162
his significant other
at the time, who was Misa.
608
00:29:01,262 --> 00:29:03,497
* *
609
00:29:03,597 --> 00:29:06,300
And I was in the studio with...
610
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,002
Kimberly.
611
00:29:08,102 --> 00:29:10,204
And we had the baby with us
at that point, I think,
612
00:29:10,304 --> 00:29:12,940
and we were--
I was at the mixing board.
613
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,143
He walked into the studio,
and he looked over,
614
00:29:16,243 --> 00:29:20,214
and he saw
this really beautiful girl.
615
00:29:20,314 --> 00:29:24,385
And she was holding
this really beautiful baby.
616
00:29:24,485 --> 00:29:28,923
And he said, hey, man...
617
00:29:29,023 --> 00:29:32,093
I wish I had a beautiful girl
like that.
618
00:29:34,028 --> 00:29:37,765
I was like, uh, you do.
619
00:29:37,865 --> 00:29:39,800
It's Misa.
620
00:29:39,900 --> 00:29:43,404
- It was love at first sight
621
00:29:43,504 --> 00:29:46,006
with Sean seeing Kim.
622
00:29:46,107 --> 00:29:48,743
It was a "stop you
in your tracks" moment,
623
00:29:48,843 --> 00:29:50,911
a "oh, my God" moment,
624
00:29:51,011 --> 00:29:53,414
"I got to have her" moment.
625
00:29:53,514 --> 00:29:55,516
And...
626
00:29:55,616 --> 00:29:58,886
he gets what he wants.
627
00:29:58,986 --> 00:30:00,888
The whole staff
watched it happen.
628
00:30:00,988 --> 00:30:02,356
Sean had no shame
in his aggression
629
00:30:02,456 --> 00:30:05,626
towards Kim and his approach
to her--no shame.
630
00:30:05,726 --> 00:30:08,796
Just like, this is the girl.
You're going to be my girl.
631
00:30:08,896 --> 00:30:11,532
You might not know it yet,
but...
632
00:30:11,632 --> 00:30:13,901
- Listen, there's an OG rule.
633
00:30:14,001 --> 00:30:16,804
If you my brother
and you and your wife--
634
00:30:16,904 --> 00:30:18,806
if something happens...
635
00:30:18,906 --> 00:30:20,908
she's off-limits.
636
00:30:21,008 --> 00:30:24,812
- Sean! Sean, this way!
[person shouts]
637
00:30:24,912 --> 00:30:28,349
- They dated off and on
for years...
638
00:30:28,449 --> 00:30:33,487
always on in his mind
and never off.
639
00:30:33,587 --> 00:30:37,024
Puff was sick with her.
640
00:30:37,124 --> 00:30:39,026
No matter who he dealt with
641
00:30:39,126 --> 00:30:42,963
or who he had over...
642
00:30:43,064 --> 00:30:46,133
he always ran back to Kim.
643
00:30:46,233 --> 00:30:50,771
- I have a photo of Sean
and Kim Porter
644
00:30:50,871 --> 00:30:52,940
in Paris Fashion Week,
645
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,142
Kim and I on the yacht
in Saint-Tropez.
646
00:30:55,242 --> 00:30:58,312
He would fly glam out
to even, like, vacations,
647
00:30:58,412 --> 00:31:01,916
because we had to make sure
Kim Porter looked perfect.
648
00:31:02,016 --> 00:31:04,385
And he had to look perfect.
649
00:31:04,485 --> 00:31:06,153
Kim was from Georgia.
650
00:31:06,253 --> 00:31:10,091
She wasn't this glam girl
that the world perceived.
651
00:31:10,191 --> 00:31:12,393
We made her glam.
652
00:31:14,061 --> 00:31:15,796
She was his arm candy.
653
00:31:15,896 --> 00:31:18,032
* *
654
00:31:18,132 --> 00:31:21,936
- It seems that Diddy
ended up adopting Quincy
655
00:31:22,036 --> 00:31:24,071
and raising Quincy as his own.
656
00:31:24,171 --> 00:31:26,307
- I'm here as his father to...
657
00:31:26,407 --> 00:31:30,111
you know, to raise him
and give him advice.
658
00:31:30,211 --> 00:31:33,914
- I have to keep in mind
that...
659
00:31:34,014 --> 00:31:36,317
what people were fed
660
00:31:36,417 --> 00:31:41,055
in this propaganda against me
over the years,
661
00:31:41,155 --> 00:31:43,491
about, oh, Puffy did this
and adopted your kid
662
00:31:43,591 --> 00:31:45,026
and adopted this--
663
00:31:45,126 --> 00:31:48,062
there's no adoption, none.
664
00:31:48,162 --> 00:31:51,098
There's no letter to my father
and all that.
665
00:31:51,198 --> 00:31:53,768
All crafted by a publicist.
666
00:31:53,868 --> 00:31:58,539
And if you haven't noticed,
his name is still Brown.
667
00:31:58,639 --> 00:32:01,308
People thought I was absent
and things of that nature.
668
00:32:01,409 --> 00:32:04,445
It was basically instructed
by Kimberly.
669
00:32:04,545 --> 00:32:07,248
* *
670
00:32:07,348 --> 00:32:11,218
I was told that Puffy
wasn't too happy about anyone
671
00:32:11,318 --> 00:32:13,454
who had a relationship
with Kimberly.
672
00:32:13,554 --> 00:32:15,489
* *
673
00:32:15,589 --> 00:32:19,360
I was very much under--listen,
you promise on our son's life,
674
00:32:19,460 --> 00:32:21,328
you know, just stay
out of the way.
675
00:32:21,429 --> 00:32:24,098
Don't do this.
Don't get involved.
676
00:32:24,198 --> 00:32:26,200
Being told, please,
677
00:32:26,300 --> 00:32:28,102
don't do that tough-guy
Mount Vernon shit.
678
00:32:28,202 --> 00:32:29,870
You will get killed.
679
00:32:29,970 --> 00:32:32,273
* *
680
00:32:36,343 --> 00:32:38,312
- Kimberly said,
don't do this.
681
00:32:38,412 --> 00:32:40,948
Don't get involved.
You will get killed.
682
00:32:41,048 --> 00:32:45,453
Even to the point
where I remember...
683
00:32:45,553 --> 00:32:47,888
Oof, I can't.
684
00:32:47,988 --> 00:32:50,858
[dramatic music]
685
00:32:50,958 --> 00:32:54,095
* *
686
00:32:54,195 --> 00:32:56,263
[grunts softly]
687
00:32:56,364 --> 00:32:59,333
Yeah, man,
I can't go into that.
688
00:32:59,433 --> 00:33:01,569
There's legal proceedings
going on right now,
689
00:33:01,669 --> 00:33:03,304
so this will be...
690
00:33:03,404 --> 00:33:06,207
But, yeah, I will share that
at some point,
691
00:33:06,307 --> 00:33:10,878
but, yeah, this--
it's part of evidence.
692
00:33:10,978 --> 00:33:12,813
And...
693
00:33:12,913 --> 00:33:16,517
I'm going to have to refrain
from this part of this--
694
00:33:16,617 --> 00:33:18,018
this segment.
695
00:33:18,119 --> 00:33:20,421
* *
696
00:33:20,521 --> 00:33:24,558
Let's just say,
you got to listen to Kimberly
697
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:30,398
Because not only
was she trying to save me...
698
00:33:30,498 --> 00:33:32,333
she was putting
her own life in danger.
699
00:33:32,433 --> 00:33:34,468
[indistinct chatter]
- Sean!
700
00:33:34,568 --> 00:33:37,338
- Sean, right here, please.
Sean, right here.
701
00:33:41,075 --> 00:33:43,210
- One time
I was called on the phone
702
00:33:43,310 --> 00:33:45,913
to rush over
to St. Luke's Hospital.
703
00:33:46,013 --> 00:33:48,416
She looked like she was
bruised and stuff like that.
704
00:33:48,516 --> 00:33:50,985
But she wasn't saying
much of nothing.
705
00:33:51,085 --> 00:33:53,421
* *
706
00:33:53,521 --> 00:33:57,291
- I have a victim
who I now represent.
707
00:33:57,391 --> 00:33:59,560
She alleges that she also saw
708
00:33:59,660 --> 00:34:01,128
acts of violence
709
00:34:01,228 --> 00:34:02,563
with regard to Kim Porter.
710
00:34:04,231 --> 00:34:06,600
She was horrified.
711
00:34:08,736 --> 00:34:10,171
It was appalling.
712
00:34:10,271 --> 00:34:14,075
She was threatened
into not reporting it.
713
00:34:14,175 --> 00:34:16,477
[paparazzi shouting]
714
00:34:16,577 --> 00:34:18,312
- Every time I went somewhere
with them,
715
00:34:18,412 --> 00:34:20,781
it'd be, like,
a presidential suite.
716
00:34:20,881 --> 00:34:22,483
But see, if I'm outside
717
00:34:22,583 --> 00:34:25,419
because I got to watch the door
at a certain time,
718
00:34:25,519 --> 00:34:27,621
Kim might come out the room.
719
00:34:27,722 --> 00:34:30,991
And, like, she'll be in her
robe or something like that.
720
00:34:31,092 --> 00:34:32,660
And you could tell that she--
721
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,663
he may have been roughing--
I'd be like, yo, you all right?
722
00:34:35,763 --> 00:34:38,399
He play too much.
723
00:34:44,238 --> 00:34:47,241
- There were whispers maybe
724
00:34:47,341 --> 00:34:51,112
of things that were happening
behind the scenes.
725
00:34:51,212 --> 00:34:53,214
[paparazzi shouting]
726
00:34:53,314 --> 00:34:54,648
- Thanks a lot.
727
00:34:54,749 --> 00:34:58,119
- There was
a little blip of coverage
728
00:34:58,219 --> 00:35:00,021
but nothing beyond that.
729
00:35:00,121 --> 00:35:01,789
- Make some noise.
730
00:35:01,889 --> 00:35:04,125
- By that time, Sean--
731
00:35:04,225 --> 00:35:06,160
probably one
of the hardest-working
732
00:35:06,260 --> 00:35:07,395
up-and-coming executives.
733
00:35:07,495 --> 00:35:09,397
- And I work, like,
20 hours a day.
734
00:35:09,497 --> 00:35:12,433
And I feel
as a young Black man,
735
00:35:12,533 --> 00:35:15,302
anything I put my mind to,
I can do.
736
00:35:15,403 --> 00:35:18,572
- He worked his way from intern
to the director of A&R
737
00:35:18,672 --> 00:35:22,443
in the space of about a year
or a year and a half.
738
00:35:22,543 --> 00:35:25,713
- That was the person
at the label
739
00:35:25,813 --> 00:35:29,150
who was responsible
for signing new artists
740
00:35:29,250 --> 00:35:30,518
to the record label.
741
00:35:30,618 --> 00:35:34,321
- I never knew I would be here,
but, you know, I'm grateful,
742
00:35:34,422 --> 00:35:36,357
and, you know,
I'm definitely honored.
743
00:35:36,457 --> 00:35:38,359
- You had the keys
to the kingdom.
744
00:35:38,459 --> 00:35:42,063
Like, you were able to say
what was hot.
745
00:35:42,163 --> 00:35:43,330
You were able to say,
746
00:35:43,431 --> 00:35:44,665
that's going to be
the next big artist.
747
00:35:44,765 --> 00:35:48,169
And you had that power
really to put somebody on.
748
00:35:48,269 --> 00:35:49,737
And after that,
749
00:35:49,837 --> 00:35:53,574
he launches his own
record label, Bad Boy.
750
00:35:53,674 --> 00:35:55,509
- This is it,
Bad Boy Entertainment.
751
00:35:55,609 --> 00:35:57,611
- Bad Boy Entertainment,
no doubt.
752
00:35:57,712 --> 00:35:59,714
- Totally, totally familiar,
totally.
753
00:35:59,814 --> 00:36:02,683
This is a brand-new start
at a brand-new label,
754
00:36:02,783 --> 00:36:04,318
brand-new money.
755
00:36:04,418 --> 00:36:07,688
So, at Uptown, Sean left,
756
00:36:07,788 --> 00:36:11,492
and the founder of Uptown
gave me Sean's workload,
757
00:36:11,592 --> 00:36:13,661
along with the workload
I already had.
758
00:36:13,761 --> 00:36:17,298
At night, I'm inheriting
his workload.
759
00:36:17,398 --> 00:36:19,867
And he's inheriting
a new label.
760
00:36:19,967 --> 00:36:20,968
It's crazy.
761
00:36:21,068 --> 00:36:24,205
- Diddy looked at hip-hop
in a very different way.
762
00:36:24,305 --> 00:36:26,540
People felt
that it had to be gritty
763
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,210
and very tied to the streets.
764
00:36:29,310 --> 00:36:31,112
But in Diddy's mind...
765
00:36:31,212 --> 00:36:33,848
[cheering, paparazzi shouting]
766
00:36:33,948 --> 00:36:37,385
Why can't hip-hop be you
driving around in a Bentley?
767
00:36:37,485 --> 00:36:40,454
Why can't hip-hop be
having Rolexes,
768
00:36:40,554 --> 00:36:43,324
having mansions, and living
that kind of high life?
769
00:36:43,424 --> 00:36:45,626
[paparazzi shouting]
770
00:36:45,726 --> 00:36:48,696
- It's this shiny-suit era,
this glossy era.
771
00:36:48,796 --> 00:36:51,866
It's all about spending
and making money.
772
00:36:51,966 --> 00:36:53,534
He had just come out
773
00:36:53,634 --> 00:36:56,804
with the Notorious B.I.G.,
Craig Mack.
774
00:36:56,904 --> 00:37:01,675
He had a heavy-hitter roster
in hip-hop.
775
00:37:01,776 --> 00:37:04,712
- That's the beginning
of Sean's ending,
776
00:37:04,812 --> 00:37:08,682
because he was given way more
than your average rapper,
777
00:37:08,783 --> 00:37:12,520
an average inner-city
Black industry person.
778
00:37:12,620 --> 00:37:15,222
- I'm from Harlem, young man
from Harlem, New York.
779
00:37:15,322 --> 00:37:17,358
This is crazy right here.
780
00:37:17,458 --> 00:37:19,794
I'm reaching big.
I'm going for the big-time.
781
00:37:19,894 --> 00:37:22,263
I'm trying to have my name
in lights one day, baby.
782
00:37:22,363 --> 00:37:23,531
- Here's Sean and I.
783
00:37:23,631 --> 00:37:27,334
That's when he was
a brand-new millionaire.
784
00:37:27,435 --> 00:37:30,471
Around that time, he showed me
a check for $60 million,
785
00:37:30,571 --> 00:37:32,173
and I couldn't believe it.
786
00:37:32,273 --> 00:37:34,442
- Puffy was able to negotiate
787
00:37:34,542 --> 00:37:37,411
a $55 million advance,
788
00:37:37,511 --> 00:37:40,514
reportedly, from Clive Davis.
789
00:37:41,582 --> 00:37:44,485
- It was a check,
and it was crumbled up.
790
00:37:44,585 --> 00:37:46,620
And he has that Kool-Aid look
on his mouth.
791
00:37:46,721 --> 00:37:48,622
He licked his lips and said,
792
00:37:48,723 --> 00:37:50,758
yeah, I'm about to turn
this shit on--watch.
793
00:37:50,858 --> 00:37:52,860
He was rubbing elbows
with Tommy Hilfiger.
794
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,463
He was on the top 10
of the record charts.
795
00:37:55,563 --> 00:37:57,298
He's known worldwide.
796
00:37:57,398 --> 00:37:59,533
He's probably one
797
00:37:59,633 --> 00:38:02,503
of the most photographed
Black men in history.
798
00:38:02,603 --> 00:38:04,905
And he's not even
25 years old yet.
799
00:38:05,005 --> 00:38:06,440
And this wasn't, like,
800
00:38:06,540 --> 00:38:08,376
his first and last
million-dollar check.
801
00:38:08,476 --> 00:38:09,810
This was the first of many.
802
00:38:09,910 --> 00:38:14,382
But now Sean is the 1%
of the 1% of the 1%
803
00:38:14,482 --> 00:38:16,417
of the 1% in the Black world.
804
00:38:16,517 --> 00:38:18,886
I ain't never met
nobody this rich,
805
00:38:18,986 --> 00:38:20,755
and this is Sean.
806
00:38:20,855 --> 00:38:24,625
What does that do to a person?
I can only imagine.
807
00:38:26,327 --> 00:38:29,830
[line trilling]
808
00:38:29,930 --> 00:38:31,365
[line beeps]
809
00:38:47,381 --> 00:38:49,784
* *
810
00:39:09,503 --> 00:39:12,673
- It's been taking me
fucking ever
811
00:39:12,773 --> 00:39:17,745
to get back to my exact tone
of not giving a fuck.
812
00:39:24,418 --> 00:39:26,620
- You got me acting crazy.
813
00:39:28,889 --> 00:39:30,758
- I can show y'all
how we have fun
814
00:39:30,858 --> 00:39:33,661
and stay out of jail, too,
and make money.
815
00:39:40,601 --> 00:39:42,603
- * It just don't stop *
816
00:39:42,703 --> 00:39:44,905
* Sunup to sundown,
my people get it *
817
00:39:45,005 --> 00:39:46,774
* Distressed jeans,
Timb boots *
818
00:39:46,874 --> 00:39:49,043
* And a Yankee fitted,
the way the chain hang... *
819
00:40:15,803 --> 00:40:18,506
- The one, the only,
Mr. Can't Stop, Won't Stop,
820
00:40:18,606 --> 00:40:20,808
Mr. Combs!
821
00:40:36,023 --> 00:40:38,893
- I was going to do
whatever it took
822
00:40:38,993 --> 00:40:41,929
to be successful
in the industry.
823
00:40:42,029 --> 00:40:44,432
- To Puff,
image was his livelihood.
824
00:40:44,532 --> 00:40:46,567
[indistinct chatter]
825
00:40:46,667 --> 00:40:48,035
- Excuse me,
excuse me, excuse me.
826
00:40:48,135 --> 00:40:51,806
- He felt like that, in order
for him to have this image,
827
00:40:51,906 --> 00:40:54,375
you have to be
larger than life.
828
00:40:54,475 --> 00:40:58,946
And he thought that if people
fear him, they respect him.
829
00:40:59,046 --> 00:41:00,648
- Nobody's shooting me.
Nobody's shooting me.
830
00:41:00,748 --> 00:41:02,416
Nobody's shooting me.
831
00:41:02,516 --> 00:41:04,652
There's three shooters to make
sure somebody is shooting me.
832
00:41:04,752 --> 00:41:06,620
You got me acting crazy
in front of all these people.
833
00:41:06,721 --> 00:41:08,122
JJ, you got me acting crazy.
834
00:41:12,993 --> 00:41:14,962
- Disney paying a lot
for this motherfucking art
835
00:41:15,062 --> 00:41:17,131
I'm going to give them--
fuck that.
836
00:41:22,303 --> 00:41:25,406
- Right now.
Nah...
837
00:41:25,506 --> 00:41:30,478
- I worked with Diddy
on MTV's 'Making the Band 2."
838
00:41:30,578 --> 00:41:33,347
When he got angry
with one of my band members,
839
00:41:33,447 --> 00:41:36,083
he said, you make me so mad,
I want to eat your flesh.
840
00:41:36,183 --> 00:41:38,085
And then he said to another one
of my band members--
841
00:41:38,185 --> 00:41:40,321
he said, you rolling
your eyes and everyt--
842
00:41:40,421 --> 00:41:42,790
you know, I could go get
a crackhead and pay them $20
843
00:41:42,890 --> 00:41:44,658
to smack the shit out of you.
844
00:41:44,759 --> 00:41:47,194
Who says that?
That's crazy.
845
00:41:47,294 --> 00:41:49,597
[dramatic music]
846
00:41:49,697 --> 00:41:51,599
- We're in the studio.
847
00:41:51,699 --> 00:41:53,667
You know, he had said
some stuff about the band.
848
00:41:53,768 --> 00:41:58,039
And Puff said, they going
to keep fucking around with me,
849
00:41:58,139 --> 00:42:00,174
and I'm going to drug
they ass out
850
00:42:00,274 --> 00:42:02,076
and pimp them out to my niggas.
851
00:42:03,944 --> 00:42:06,680
And I said, nigga, them
is somebody's daughters.
852
00:42:06,781 --> 00:42:08,549
What the fuck is
you talking about?
853
00:42:08,649 --> 00:42:11,552
* *
854
00:42:11,652 --> 00:42:13,988
I seen him cuss at his mother
at one time.
855
00:42:15,690 --> 00:42:17,024
She gets in the car,
856
00:42:17,124 --> 00:42:19,493
and she was trying
to tell him something.
857
00:42:19,593 --> 00:42:20,661
He said, didn't I tell you
858
00:42:20,761 --> 00:42:22,797
to stay out
my motherfucking business?
859
00:42:22,897 --> 00:42:24,899
And I said, motherfucker,
you don't talk
860
00:42:24,999 --> 00:42:26,600
to your mother like that.
861
00:42:26,701 --> 00:42:28,035
You apologize to her.
862
00:42:28,135 --> 00:42:29,937
You ain't going to bring
nothing but bad luck--
863
00:42:30,037 --> 00:42:32,106
But, Gene, Gene,
I told her to stay--
864
00:42:32,206 --> 00:42:34,275
You wouldn't have
no motherfucking business
865
00:42:34,375 --> 00:42:35,843
if it wasn't for her.
866
00:42:35,943 --> 00:42:38,279
And that's what
our conversation was.
867
00:42:38,379 --> 00:42:40,981
Now, apologize to her.
868
00:42:41,082 --> 00:42:45,186
- Fast forward to actually
making the band,
869
00:42:45,286 --> 00:42:46,687
and he said--
870
00:42:46,787 --> 00:42:49,690
- I want me a piece
of cheesecake.
871
00:42:49,790 --> 00:42:51,125
- When you're watching it,
872
00:42:51,225 --> 00:42:53,127
you're like, yeah,
go get a slice of cheesecake.
873
00:42:53,227 --> 00:42:55,129
Like, you want this.
You got to want it that bad.
874
00:42:55,229 --> 00:42:58,099
- Puffy just told us to go
to the store in Brooklyn
875
00:42:58,199 --> 00:43:00,568
and bring him back
a cheesecake and walk.
876
00:43:00,668 --> 00:43:02,036
- Say what?
877
00:43:02,136 --> 00:43:06,440
- People looked at that like,
yo, this dude is crazy.
878
00:43:06,540 --> 00:43:09,610
- We walked for eight hours
over the Brooklyn Bridge.
879
00:43:09,710 --> 00:43:11,979
We went from Manhattan
to Brooklyn, walking.
880
00:43:12,079 --> 00:43:14,715
And so I'm doing that stuff
because I'm like,
881
00:43:14,815 --> 00:43:16,784
I ain't going to go home.
882
00:43:16,884 --> 00:43:19,153
This is what
I've been working for.
883
00:44:29,490 --> 00:44:30,658
- I was a part of a group
884
00:44:30,758 --> 00:44:31,926
before, you know,
885
00:44:32,026 --> 00:44:33,160
but this is a whole different
886
00:44:33,260 --> 00:44:35,062
level of awesomeness
right here.
887
00:44:35,162 --> 00:44:36,364
But you know what?
It feels good.
888
00:44:36,464 --> 00:44:39,700
I always--like Puff says, it
feels good to work with a team.
889
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:40,935
I'm better with a team.
890
00:44:41,035 --> 00:44:43,137
And these people make me
better, and I just feel like--
891
00:44:43,237 --> 00:44:45,740
- Dawn Richard was selected
to be in the band Danity Kane.
892
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:47,508
[indistinct shouting]
893
00:44:47,608 --> 00:44:51,779
Later, she was in a second band
that Sean Combs produced,
894
00:44:51,879 --> 00:44:53,214
called Diddy - Dirty Money.
895
00:44:53,314 --> 00:44:56,016
- It feels good and to be here
and have y'all see
896
00:44:56,117 --> 00:44:58,252
how great we really are
and what we could be.
897
00:44:58,352 --> 00:45:00,421
- What people don't know
is behind the scenes,
898
00:45:00,521 --> 00:45:02,890
she was denied food.
899
00:45:02,990 --> 00:45:04,892
She was denied water.
900
00:45:04,992 --> 00:45:07,228
She was denied sleep.
901
00:45:07,328 --> 00:45:11,999
Dawn Richard is alleging that
Sean Combs threatened her...
902
00:45:12,099 --> 00:45:14,902
* *
903
00:45:15,002 --> 00:45:16,871
That he committed acts
of violence.
904
00:45:16,971 --> 00:45:19,006
- Get the fuck up, B, for real.
905
00:45:19,106 --> 00:45:21,108
- He would throw things
across the room--
906
00:45:21,208 --> 00:45:23,911
furniture,
studio equipment, laptops.
907
00:45:24,011 --> 00:45:25,746
He had a lot
of angry outbursts.
908
00:45:25,846 --> 00:45:28,149
- Damn.
- Cool.
909
00:45:28,249 --> 00:45:30,051
- He sexually assaulted her
910
00:45:30,151 --> 00:45:32,153
by groping and grabbing
parts of her body.
911
00:45:32,253 --> 00:45:34,855
And she witnessed
other women being groped
912
00:45:34,955 --> 00:45:36,957
and grabbed in front of her.
913
00:45:37,058 --> 00:45:39,160
If this is what the man
does in public,
914
00:45:39,260 --> 00:45:42,063
we can only imagine
what he does in private.
915
00:45:51,172 --> 00:45:52,873
- Honestly, I didn't want to
be around him
916
00:45:52,973 --> 00:45:54,075
unless there was cameras,
917
00:45:54,175 --> 00:45:56,077
because
after that one incident,
918
00:45:56,177 --> 00:45:58,212
which was very inappropriate...
919
00:46:04,285 --> 00:46:08,889
- Well, the incident--
basically, I was by myself.
920
00:46:08,989 --> 00:46:12,393
And I was...
921
00:46:12,493 --> 00:46:13,994
[scoffs]
922
00:46:14,095 --> 00:46:18,065
This is hard to talk about,
like, about this.
923
00:46:18,165 --> 00:46:24,238
* *
924
00:46:29,844 --> 00:46:32,346
[dramatic music]
925
00:46:32,446 --> 00:46:36,751
- Well, the incident--
basically, I was by myself.
926
00:46:36,851 --> 00:46:39,420
And I was...
927
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:42,957
Well, he touched me in a place
that he shouldn't have.
928
00:46:43,057 --> 00:46:45,459
That was inappropriate.
929
00:46:45,559 --> 00:46:48,295
And I felt...
930
00:46:48,396 --> 00:46:49,463
I felt intimidated.
931
00:46:49,563 --> 00:46:52,933
I felt like, oh, my God, what
the heck happened just now?
932
00:46:54,235 --> 00:46:55,236
[sniffles]
933
00:46:55,336 --> 00:46:58,172
[crying]
I'm trying not to cry.
934
00:46:58,272 --> 00:47:00,207
I'm definitely nervous...
935
00:47:03,544 --> 00:47:07,348
Because like I said, I haven't
said anything for so long.
936
00:47:07,448 --> 00:47:08,983
And it's built up.
937
00:47:09,083 --> 00:47:12,953
It's been 20 years of going
through my mind, like...
938
00:47:13,054 --> 00:47:15,956
this has happened, that's
happened, this was stopped--
939
00:47:16,057 --> 00:47:18,526
mentally, like...
940
00:47:18,626 --> 00:47:20,127
draining.
941
00:47:20,227 --> 00:47:27,234
* *
942
00:47:29,170 --> 00:47:30,938
- For a victim
of sexual assault
943
00:47:31,038 --> 00:47:32,873
by a high-profile predator,
944
00:47:32,973 --> 00:47:35,242
everything changes
when they come forward.
945
00:47:35,342 --> 00:47:37,311
They're no longer known
for their own work,
946
00:47:37,411 --> 00:47:40,514
their own accomplishments,
their own hopes and dreams.
947
00:47:40,614 --> 00:47:42,183
They're just known in the media
948
00:47:42,283 --> 00:47:44,285
as the woman
who accuses this guy.
949
00:47:44,385 --> 00:47:47,054
And particularly, I think,
in the music industry,
950
00:47:47,154 --> 00:47:49,323
there's a lot of retribution.
951
00:47:49,423 --> 00:47:52,193
Who thinks
that they can fight somebody
952
00:47:52,293 --> 00:47:53,961
with that kind
of wealth, power?
953
00:47:54,061 --> 00:47:56,263
I think each person
has to make the calculation
954
00:47:56,364 --> 00:47:59,266
in her own mind--
is it worth coming forward?
955
00:47:59,367 --> 00:48:03,137
And everybody said, heck, no,
it's not worth it.
956
00:48:03,237 --> 00:48:05,539
I'm not doing this.
957
00:48:05,639 --> 00:48:09,243
[hip-hop music]
958
00:48:09,343 --> 00:48:11,912
- I met Puffy
on Howard's campus.
959
00:48:12,012 --> 00:48:15,049
I only got back in touch
with him years after,
960
00:48:15,149 --> 00:48:16,884
when he was starting this
production team
961
00:48:16,984 --> 00:48:18,252
called The Hitmen.
962
00:48:18,352 --> 00:48:21,055
It was told to the staff that
Puff was throwing a party
963
00:48:21,155 --> 00:48:22,289
at the Hamptons.
964
00:48:22,390 --> 00:48:28,162
* *
965
00:48:28,262 --> 00:48:30,031
- So I moved
to a new neighborhood,
966
00:48:30,131 --> 00:48:31,298
and they were like, well,
what's this guy doing,
967
00:48:31,399 --> 00:48:32,466
moving here in East Hampton?
968
00:48:32,566 --> 00:48:34,502
And I said, everybody,
come on over.
969
00:48:34,602 --> 00:48:36,337
Come on over to the house
so y'all can get to know me.
970
00:48:36,437 --> 00:48:38,039
Let me invite some
of my friends from Harlem,
971
00:48:38,139 --> 00:48:40,374
from 145th Street.
972
00:48:40,474 --> 00:48:43,878
- I had absolutely no idea
what the Hamptons was about.
973
00:48:43,978 --> 00:48:46,847
[dramatic music]
974
00:48:46,947 --> 00:48:48,616
* *
975
00:48:48,716 --> 00:48:50,084
We finally get out there.
976
00:48:50,184 --> 00:48:52,386
And I get to see Puffy's house
for the first time.
977
00:48:52,486 --> 00:48:56,090
He has a white mansion,
all-white glass from the back.
978
00:48:56,190 --> 00:48:59,293
And I'm like, wow, this is
for rich folks, you know,
979
00:48:59,393 --> 00:49:00,995
rich white folks
who got money.
980
00:49:01,095 --> 00:49:03,931
So that was different.
981
00:49:04,031 --> 00:49:06,167
- Yeah, I'm just trying
to enjoy life.
982
00:49:06,267 --> 00:49:08,469
This is a celebration of life.
983
00:49:08,569 --> 00:49:10,938
This is the legendary
white party.
984
00:49:11,038 --> 00:49:12,373
This is the real white party.
985
00:49:12,473 --> 00:49:14,375
Let's just start to get
our groove on in little bit.
986
00:49:14,475 --> 00:49:16,944
In an hour, we put
the kids away--it's all good.
987
00:49:17,044 --> 00:49:19,013
All right, DJ, let's hit it.
Let's do it.
988
00:49:19,113 --> 00:49:21,315
[hip-hop music]
989
00:49:21,415 --> 00:49:23,250
- Anybody
from the music industry,
990
00:49:23,350 --> 00:49:25,019
film industry,
movie execs or music execs,
991
00:49:25,119 --> 00:49:27,455
who lived out there,
they were invited as well.
992
00:49:27,555 --> 00:49:30,191
I remember meeting
Donald Trump in the party.
993
00:49:30,291 --> 00:49:31,659
[chuckles]
It was crazy.
994
00:49:31,759 --> 00:49:33,928
* *
995
00:49:34,028 --> 00:49:35,996
- I didn't see anything
inappropriate
996
00:49:36,097 --> 00:49:38,599
when I was
at these after-after parties.
997
00:49:38,699 --> 00:49:41,102
* *
998
00:49:43,404 --> 00:49:45,339
- Uh, I--
999
00:49:45,439 --> 00:49:48,242
Oof. I'm not going to say
I saw a lot of it.
1000
00:49:48,342 --> 00:49:50,311
It could have been
in another part
1001
00:49:50,411 --> 00:49:52,613
of the sections or the rooms.
1002
00:49:52,713 --> 00:49:56,517
What I saw was some weed,
you know what I mean?
1003
00:49:56,617 --> 00:49:58,285
- Why wouldn't it be?
1004
00:49:58,386 --> 00:50:00,454
People smoking weed,
people popping pills.
1005
00:50:00,554 --> 00:50:02,156
That's a party.
1006
00:50:02,256 --> 00:50:04,558
- I went to a lot
of Puffy parties in the '90s.
1007
00:50:04,658 --> 00:50:07,161
These were the parties
everybody wanted to go to.
1008
00:50:10,031 --> 00:50:11,298
- These were the parties
1009
00:50:11,399 --> 00:50:14,668
that you needed
exclusive access to get into.
1010
00:50:14,769 --> 00:50:19,740
But these weren't the parties
that people talk about now.
1011
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:22,476
The after-after party
1012
00:50:22,576 --> 00:50:25,546
was something
that I had heard before,
1013
00:50:25,646 --> 00:50:30,217
that maybe there were orgies
happening.
1014
00:50:30,317 --> 00:50:33,487
[people cheering]
1015
00:50:35,356 --> 00:50:36,490
- After party is something--
1016
00:50:36,590 --> 00:50:38,459
That's common
in the music industry.
1017
00:50:38,559 --> 00:50:41,962
People have after parties...
1018
00:50:42,063 --> 00:50:43,097
but here's the thing.
1019
00:50:43,197 --> 00:50:46,100
Everybody tend to say,
1020
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:48,035
all of a sudden,
1021
00:50:48,135 --> 00:50:51,205
because it's a white party,
it's a freak-off.
1022
00:50:51,305 --> 00:50:53,240
Like, come on, now.
1023
00:51:04,218 --> 00:51:05,319
I'll be honest with you.
1024
00:51:05,419 --> 00:51:07,188
I had no idea
what a freak-off was
1025
00:51:07,288 --> 00:51:08,489
until I read the allegations.
1026
00:51:15,363 --> 00:51:16,931
- People, when they think
of sex trafficking,
1027
00:51:17,031 --> 00:51:19,600
they think of a woman being
dragged across state lines
1028
00:51:19,700 --> 00:51:23,037
for sexual purposes
against her will.
1029
00:51:23,137 --> 00:51:24,538
But in fact, the TVPA,
1030
00:51:24,638 --> 00:51:26,507
the Trafficking Victims
Protection Act,
1031
00:51:26,607 --> 00:51:30,144
talks about people being
enticed...
1032
00:51:30,244 --> 00:51:32,613
recruited...
1033
00:51:32,713 --> 00:51:34,482
or tricked...
1034
00:51:34,582 --> 00:51:38,152
into sexual behavior
or attempted sexual behavior
1035
00:51:38,252 --> 00:51:40,287
for commercial purposes.
1036
00:51:42,390 --> 00:51:44,525
It includes people
in a workplace
1037
00:51:44,625 --> 00:51:47,361
being coerced
into sexual behavior
1038
00:51:47,461 --> 00:51:50,264
in order to keep getting
their paycheck.
1039
00:52:20,394 --> 00:52:23,798
[dramatic music]
1040
00:52:50,324 --> 00:52:53,694
[lively chatter]
1041
00:52:55,296 --> 00:52:58,299
[crowd singing indistinctly]
1042
00:53:12,780 --> 00:53:15,750
[indistinct chatter]
1043
00:53:15,850 --> 00:53:20,554
* *
1044
00:53:20,654 --> 00:53:23,724
[crowd singing indistinctly]
1045
00:53:58,693 --> 00:54:02,630
- I mean, if it's true,
then, you know...
1046
00:54:07,735 --> 00:54:10,304
I'd be highly disappointed.
1047
00:54:11,939 --> 00:54:14,909
- So I've always been asked
the question, why?
1048
00:54:15,009 --> 00:54:17,445
And...
1049
00:54:17,545 --> 00:54:21,282
I don't know the answer to why.
1050
00:54:21,382 --> 00:54:25,653
But I truly believe it all
goes back to childhood.
1051
00:54:25,753 --> 00:54:31,192
* *
1052
00:54:31,292 --> 00:54:32,593
So here's the deal.
1053
00:54:32,693 --> 00:54:35,196
Because Sean had no dad,
1054
00:54:35,296 --> 00:54:38,232
all he had was his mom.
1055
00:54:38,332 --> 00:54:40,701
Sean's house, our house,
1056
00:54:40,801 --> 00:54:43,771
there was always things
going on.
1057
00:54:43,871 --> 00:54:46,474
On the weekend,
you partied in the house,
1058
00:54:46,574 --> 00:54:48,542
and we did that a lot.
1059
00:54:48,642 --> 00:54:51,379
He was around all type
of alcohol.
1060
00:54:51,479 --> 00:54:53,314
He was around reefer smoke.
1061
00:54:53,414 --> 00:54:56,550
He was around drug addicts,
around lesbians,
1062
00:54:56,650 --> 00:54:58,452
around homosexuals.
1063
00:54:58,552 --> 00:54:59,854
He was around pimps
and pushers.
1064
00:54:59,954 --> 00:55:01,789
That was just
who was in our house.
1065
00:55:01,889 --> 00:55:03,691
People that
attended the parties
1066
00:55:03,791 --> 00:55:05,693
were from Harlem
and from the streets.
1067
00:55:05,793 --> 00:55:07,595
- I wasn't
at the Janice Combs parties,
1068
00:55:07,695 --> 00:55:09,764
but some things I heard.
1069
00:55:09,864 --> 00:55:11,699
She had, like,
a little crew of chicks
1070
00:55:11,799 --> 00:55:13,467
that would come around,
and, you know,
1071
00:55:13,567 --> 00:55:16,470
she made sure...
1072
00:55:16,570 --> 00:55:19,673
everybody was comfortable.
[laughs]
1073
00:55:19,774 --> 00:55:21,909
- At night, it wouldn't be
a thing
1074
00:55:22,009 --> 00:55:25,379
to mistakenly walk
into one of the bedrooms,
1075
00:55:25,479 --> 00:55:27,782
and you got a couple in there
butt-naked.
1076
00:55:29,383 --> 00:55:33,788
That's what we were privy to.
This is what we were fed.
1077
00:55:33,888 --> 00:55:36,691
Was it desensitizing us?
I'm sure it was.
1078
00:55:36,791 --> 00:55:38,592
Were we aware of it?
No.
1079
00:55:38,693 --> 00:55:41,729
That was just Saturday night.
1080
00:55:41,829 --> 00:55:45,900
- If you grow up in a very
sexualized environment,
1081
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:48,636
that's going to shape
their sexual template,
1082
00:55:48,736 --> 00:55:51,605
in terms of what
are appropriate boundaries,
1083
00:55:51,706 --> 00:55:54,408
what's acceptable.
1084
00:55:54,508 --> 00:55:56,844
[camera shutter clicking,
indistinct chatter]
1085
00:55:56,944 --> 00:56:00,448
And when you have
a lot of unresolved trauma,
1086
00:56:00,548 --> 00:56:03,350
the trauma doesn't go away
1087
00:56:03,451 --> 00:56:05,886
just because you have
all that access
1088
00:56:05,986 --> 00:56:08,589
to wealth and power
1089
00:56:08,689 --> 00:56:10,791
and no guardrails.
1090
00:56:10,891 --> 00:56:14,295
The trauma is there,
and it's still unresolved.
1091
00:56:14,395 --> 00:56:16,864
* *
1092
00:56:16,964 --> 00:56:19,433
And you just have
more resources
1093
00:56:19,533 --> 00:56:22,036
to do more damage with.
1094
00:56:22,136 --> 00:56:26,974
* *
1095
00:56:29,910 --> 00:56:32,947
- I would just like
to have some privacy
1096
00:56:33,047 --> 00:56:36,917
because I've become
incredibly reclusive.
1097
00:56:40,321 --> 00:56:43,257
[voice breaking] I've just been
in isolation for six years
1098
00:56:43,357 --> 00:56:47,828
because I'm afraid that they
might come get me for speaking.
1099
00:57:05,079 --> 00:57:07,648
- I am a civil litigator
1100
00:57:07,748 --> 00:57:10,351
who has filed several cases
1101
00:57:10,451 --> 00:57:11,952
against Sean Combs
1102
00:57:12,053 --> 00:57:13,587
for sexual assault
1103
00:57:13,688 --> 00:57:15,022
in civil court.
1104
00:57:15,122 --> 00:57:18,859
I have been sounding the alarm
about Mr. Combs
1105
00:57:18,959 --> 00:57:20,594
for years.
1106
00:57:20,695 --> 00:57:22,029
- When they think
about my album,
1107
00:57:22,129 --> 00:57:25,900
I want them to think
about dancing or making love.
1108
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:28,402
- My most recent client
has alleged
1109
00:57:28,502 --> 00:57:31,138
that she was brutally
gang-raped
1110
00:57:31,238 --> 00:57:34,975
by Diddy and his friends.
1111
00:57:36,877 --> 00:57:38,846
What's in front of me right now
is the complaint
1112
00:57:38,946 --> 00:57:41,682
that I filed in California
federal court
1113
00:57:41,782 --> 00:57:43,617
in the Northern District.
1114
00:57:43,718 --> 00:57:45,086
We had
several defendants listed.
1115
00:57:45,186 --> 00:57:48,022
Of course, we have Diddy,
because he's the mastermind.
1116
00:57:48,122 --> 00:57:49,423
He's the orchestrator.
1117
00:57:49,523 --> 00:57:51,459
None of this happens
without him.
1118
00:57:51,559 --> 00:57:53,794
Then we had
his right-hand woman.
1119
00:57:53,894 --> 00:57:56,063
That's Kristina Khorram.
1120
00:58:03,838 --> 00:58:06,107
- And then there was
another individual.
1121
00:58:06,207 --> 00:58:09,110
His name was Shane Pearce.
1122
00:58:09,210 --> 00:58:12,813
We've come to find him to be
like a scouter, if you will.
1123
00:58:12,913 --> 00:58:15,516
He scouts potential victims
1124
00:58:15,616 --> 00:58:17,985
to bring to Diddy.
1125
00:58:18,085 --> 00:58:20,955
This starts out
in February 2018.
1126
00:58:21,055 --> 00:58:25,026
Ashley is at a bar,
and they begin to hang out.
1127
00:58:25,126 --> 00:58:29,630
And Shane gets Diddy
on the phone.
1128
00:58:29,730 --> 00:58:30,998
This is a FaceTime call.
1129
00:58:31,098 --> 00:58:34,735
So he's showing everybody
Diddy on a FaceTime.
1130
00:58:34,835 --> 00:58:38,539
And as you can imagine,
everybody's pretty excited.
1131
00:58:38,639 --> 00:58:41,542
* *
1132
00:58:41,642 --> 00:58:43,811
- Yeah.
1133
00:58:43,911 --> 00:58:47,815
He contacted me,
and we hung out a few times.
1134
00:58:47,915 --> 00:58:51,685
- On March 23rd, my client
was invited by Shane Pearce
1135
00:58:51,786 --> 00:58:53,454
to his home.
1136
00:58:53,554 --> 00:58:55,523
So she went to the home.
1137
00:58:55,623 --> 00:58:56,924
- He went into the kitchen
1138
00:58:57,024 --> 00:58:59,727
and got me a glass of water
1139
00:58:59,827 --> 00:59:02,563
because I was thirsty.
1140
00:59:02,663 --> 00:59:07,268
I had drank a couple sips
of the water,
1141
00:59:07,368 --> 00:59:11,939
and I was feeling
kind of weird.
1142
00:59:13,641 --> 00:59:15,876
I was feeling...
1143
00:59:15,976 --> 00:59:19,113
wobbly, a little confused.
1144
00:59:19,213 --> 00:59:21,615
* *
1145
00:59:21,716 --> 00:59:22,950
I was kind of just questioning
1146
00:59:23,050 --> 00:59:27,121
why my brain
wasn't as sharp as normal.
1147
00:59:27,221 --> 00:59:29,690
* *
1148
00:59:29,790 --> 00:59:30,891
- Approximately
ten minutes after,
1149
00:59:30,991 --> 00:59:32,660
Diddy entered the home
1150
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:35,663
in a grand
'ready to party' manner.
1151
00:59:35,763 --> 00:59:38,099
Along with Diddy
was his bodyguard,
1152
00:59:38,199 --> 00:59:42,103
a woman identified
as Kristina Khorram,
1153
00:59:42,203 --> 00:59:45,606
and another person
who we believe was friends
1154
00:59:45,706 --> 00:59:47,942
with Shane.
1155
00:59:48,042 --> 00:59:50,211
Shane partially undressed
Ashley,
1156
00:59:50,311 --> 00:59:54,715
and then Diddy removed
the remainder of her clothing.
1157
00:59:54,815 --> 00:59:56,717
Diddy retrieved
a bottle of liquid
1158
00:59:56,817 --> 00:59:58,853
from a large fanny pack.
1159
00:59:58,953 --> 01:00:01,088
Ashley soon realized
that the substance
1160
01:00:01,188 --> 01:00:03,190
was oil/lubricant.
1161
01:00:05,226 --> 01:00:07,895
- Sean Combs had a knife
1162
01:00:07,995 --> 01:00:10,931
and had it inside my mouth.
1163
01:00:11,032 --> 01:00:14,301
He said he was going
to cut my cheeks
1164
01:00:14,402 --> 01:00:17,004
and give me a Glasgow smile.
1165
01:00:19,006 --> 01:00:24,011
Kristina Khorram
told him that...
1166
01:00:26,113 --> 01:00:30,684
His clientele--they would
prefer it if I looked...
1167
01:00:32,386 --> 01:00:34,088
Normal.
1168
01:00:35,823 --> 01:00:38,592
At one point, Sean Combs--
1169
01:00:38,693 --> 01:00:41,295
he picked up a TV remote
1170
01:00:41,395 --> 01:00:43,564
and...
1171
01:00:43,664 --> 01:00:46,333
raped me vaginally
1172
01:00:46,434 --> 01:00:51,172
with that object, violently.
1173
01:00:58,679 --> 01:00:59,947
- Then it says,
1174
01:01:00,047 --> 01:01:02,116
Diddy is sitting not too far
from the bed,
1175
01:01:02,216 --> 01:01:05,019
and she said he has his phone
and his dick in his hand
1176
01:01:05,119 --> 01:01:08,589
and is recording
and jacking off
1177
01:01:08,689 --> 01:01:10,791
at the same time.
1178
01:01:10,891 --> 01:01:12,193
This is his kink.
1179
01:01:12,293 --> 01:01:14,729
This is the thing
that gets him off.
1180
01:01:14,829 --> 01:01:15,930
It's like trophies.
1181
01:01:16,030 --> 01:01:19,166
[paparazzi shouting]
1182
01:01:19,266 --> 01:01:22,636
- They said they could ship
me off and sell me
1183
01:01:22,737 --> 01:01:25,039
to anyone in the world
1184
01:01:25,139 --> 01:01:27,174
and that I would never
be seen again
1185
01:01:27,274 --> 01:01:30,044
by my parents
or my loved ones.
1186
01:01:30,144 --> 01:01:32,747
And they were taking me
that night.
1187
01:01:34,215 --> 01:01:39,053
I just uncontrollably
was sobbing.
1188
01:01:39,153 --> 01:01:41,689
* *
1189
01:01:41,789 --> 01:01:44,925
I was in a catatonic state
1190
01:01:45,026 --> 01:01:47,828
once they started raping me,
1191
01:01:47,928 --> 01:01:52,199
and I was just trying...
1192
01:01:52,299 --> 01:01:56,971
to get through it so
I could get out of there.
1193
01:01:57,071 --> 01:01:59,774
That's when they went
outside to smoke.
1194
01:02:01,242 --> 01:02:05,379
When I finally was able to get
the strength
1195
01:02:05,479 --> 01:02:07,882
to even sit up,
1196
01:02:07,982 --> 01:02:09,283
my clothes were missing.
1197
01:02:09,383 --> 01:02:13,387
My purse, my keys, my phone--
all gone.
1198
01:02:13,487 --> 01:02:16,891
* *
1199
01:02:16,991 --> 01:02:19,660
At that point,
I ran to the neighbor's house.
1200
01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:21,796
* *
1201
01:02:21,896 --> 01:02:25,733
Later, the neighbor told me
he did call the cops.
1202
01:02:25,833 --> 01:02:29,770
And that's when a sheriff
showed up at the door.
1203
01:02:29,870 --> 01:02:34,075
This sheriff didn't offer me
an ambulance.
1204
01:02:34,175 --> 01:02:38,813
He didn't offer me a ride
to the police station.
1205
01:02:38,913 --> 01:02:43,350
He just basically told me
to find my own way home.
1206
01:02:43,451 --> 01:02:47,154
There's just something very off
about his demeanor.
1207
01:02:47,254 --> 01:02:50,024
- And the Contra Costa
Sheriff's Department
1208
01:02:50,124 --> 01:02:52,259
released a statement and said,
1209
01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:54,895
yeah, she did file
a police report that night.
1210
01:02:54,995 --> 01:02:57,264
We can confirm
1211
01:02:57,365 --> 01:03:00,801
that a report
was made March 23, 2018,
1212
01:03:00,901 --> 01:03:03,304
but that "we take
these matters seriously"
1213
01:03:03,404 --> 01:03:05,973
and investigated
and that it was unfounded.
1214
01:03:12,913 --> 01:03:17,017
- When I got home, I just...
1215
01:03:17,118 --> 01:03:19,887
crawled into bed.
1216
01:03:19,987 --> 01:03:23,057
I just was catatonic
for, like, about three days
1217
01:03:23,157 --> 01:03:27,261
before I could get up
and feed myself.
1218
01:03:27,361 --> 01:03:31,999
[voice breaking] I've become
incredibly reclusive.
1219
01:03:32,099 --> 01:03:36,137
I don't trust anyone...
1220
01:03:36,237 --> 01:03:40,207
other than, like, my parents.
1221
01:03:40,307 --> 01:03:43,344
So I've just been in isolation.
1222
01:03:43,444 --> 01:03:46,213
I've barely gone
out of the house.
1223
01:03:46,313 --> 01:03:49,083
I've just been living in fear
1224
01:03:49,183 --> 01:03:53,888
because it's just
a bunch of powerful people.
1225
01:03:53,988 --> 01:03:55,856
- They did this with intent.
1226
01:03:55,956 --> 01:03:59,226
I truly believe they intended
on taking her
1227
01:03:59,326 --> 01:04:02,096
and her never being seen again.
1228
01:04:02,196 --> 01:04:04,765
This is what you do
when your ultimate goal
1229
01:04:04,865 --> 01:04:06,133
is to sex-traffic them.
1230
01:04:06,233 --> 01:04:08,102
They were trying
to break her in,
1231
01:04:08,202 --> 01:04:10,071
which is a term
I'm familiar with
1232
01:04:10,171 --> 01:04:12,239
from knowing pimp culture.
1233
01:04:14,108 --> 01:04:17,378
When you want to bring in
a new hooker or a prostitute,
1234
01:04:17,478 --> 01:04:19,914
you got to break her in.
1235
01:04:20,014 --> 01:04:22,083
Typically, you break her in
1236
01:04:22,183 --> 01:04:24,819
by having her have sex
in a gang bang,
1237
01:04:24,919 --> 01:04:27,088
with multiple men at once.
1238
01:04:27,188 --> 01:04:30,791
You've taken everything
from her.
1239
01:04:30,891 --> 01:04:32,226
They broke her.
1240
01:04:32,326 --> 01:04:34,528
* *
1241
01:04:48,376 --> 01:04:51,045
- Unchecked wealth and power
is very dangerous
1242
01:04:51,145 --> 01:04:52,446
in our culture.
1243
01:04:52,546 --> 01:04:56,016
It allows people to get away
with horrific behavior.
1244
01:04:56,117 --> 01:04:58,119
- [shouting indistinctly]
1245
01:04:58,219 --> 01:05:00,054
- All throughout his career,
1246
01:05:00,154 --> 01:05:03,257
he was known to commit
acts of violence himself...
1247
01:05:03,357 --> 01:05:05,359
- What's your plea today?
1248
01:05:05,459 --> 01:05:07,261
- To threaten people
with violence.
1249
01:05:07,361 --> 01:05:09,096
- Can you stop now?
- Huh?
1250
01:05:09,196 --> 01:05:12,099
- He was known
to be very vindictive.
1251
01:05:16,370 --> 01:05:18,239
- Fan favorite up in here,
of course.
1252
01:05:18,339 --> 01:05:20,374
It's the one and only
Biggie Smalls.
1253
01:05:20,474 --> 01:05:22,943
I understand that your album is
going to be dropping in July,
1254
01:05:23,044 --> 01:05:24,945
because I was checking
out the Bad Boy team,
1255
01:05:25,046 --> 01:05:26,680
and Puff Daddy was letting
everybody know--
1256
01:05:26,781 --> 01:05:29,383
- There have been rumors
that Diddy
1257
01:05:29,483 --> 01:05:33,154
might have had something to do
with Biggie's death.
1258
01:05:33,254 --> 01:05:35,356
- This is a picture of me
1259
01:05:35,456 --> 01:05:38,459
the night BIG was murdered.
1260
01:05:38,559 --> 01:05:40,394
The week in which BIG
was murdered,
1261
01:05:40,494 --> 01:05:42,463
he was just acting
real anxious
1262
01:05:42,563 --> 01:05:44,832
and trying to get BIG
at this party.
1263
01:05:44,932 --> 01:05:46,100
And it was crazy,
1264
01:05:46,200 --> 01:05:49,470
whereas BIG was telling people
he had to be in London.
1265
01:05:49,570 --> 01:05:52,873
But Puff was telling people,
he ain't going to London,
1266
01:05:52,973 --> 01:05:55,109
that whole week.
1267
01:05:57,078 --> 01:06:00,014
I'm sitting up
at the Beverly Hills Hotel,
1268
01:06:00,114 --> 01:06:01,882
and I get a phone call.
1269
01:06:01,982 --> 01:06:03,584
It's about 9:00.
1270
01:06:03,684 --> 01:06:07,355
And they say, Gene, get ready,
we going to the "Vibe" party.
1271
01:06:07,455 --> 01:06:10,624
I was like,
we're going to this party?
1272
01:06:10,725 --> 01:06:13,260
We don't even have no security.
1273
01:06:13,361 --> 01:06:15,896
I say, yo, Puff,
I got some intel, bruh.
1274
01:06:15,996 --> 01:06:17,031
He said, what?
1275
01:06:17,131 --> 01:06:19,233
I say, yo, man, if we go
to this party tonight,
1276
01:06:19,333 --> 01:06:21,035
one of us
is going to get killed.
1277
01:06:21,135 --> 01:06:22,470
Somebody going to die,
1278
01:06:22,570 --> 01:06:26,140
because now we have
East Coast-West Coast beefs.
1279
01:06:26,240 --> 01:06:29,343
He said, yo, Gene, I don't
want to hear that shit.
1280
01:06:29,443 --> 01:06:31,345
I said, you don't want
to hear that shit?
1281
01:06:31,445 --> 01:06:32,913
So we all jump in the car.
1282
01:06:33,013 --> 01:06:36,317
* *
1283
01:06:36,417 --> 01:06:38,686
- When Tupac was killed,
1284
01:06:38,786 --> 01:06:41,188
there was a lot of rumors
1285
01:06:41,288 --> 01:06:44,158
that Biggie and Puffy
were behind it.
1286
01:06:48,162 --> 01:06:50,931
- I was in a car with Puff.
BIG was in his own car.
1287
01:06:51,032 --> 01:06:54,468
* *
1288
01:06:54,568 --> 01:06:58,039
And next thing you know,
you heard, pow, pow, pow, pow.
1289
01:06:58,139 --> 01:06:59,407
They shooting at BIG, bruh!
1290
01:06:59,507 --> 01:07:01,442
[siren wailing]
1291
01:07:01,542 --> 01:07:04,311
[indistinct chatter
over police radio]
1292
01:07:04,412 --> 01:07:06,080
We run up there because
they say they taking BIG
1293
01:07:06,180 --> 01:07:07,214
to the hospital.
1294
01:07:07,314 --> 01:07:09,316
I told them, whatever y'all do,
1295
01:07:09,417 --> 01:07:12,253
do not let him go to sleep.
1296
01:07:12,353 --> 01:07:15,990
Talk to him. Keep him up.
Don't let him go to sleep.
1297
01:07:16,090 --> 01:07:17,892
Keep him talking.
1298
01:07:17,992 --> 01:07:21,228
And Kenny said, BIG, I'm going
to get you to the hospital.
1299
01:07:21,328 --> 01:07:24,432
And BIG said, just do it.
1300
01:07:24,532 --> 01:07:28,302
That's the last thing
I heard BIG say.
1301
01:07:28,402 --> 01:07:31,472
And they said the hospital
was two blocks away,
1302
01:07:31,572 --> 01:07:34,108
and that's
the longest two blocks
1303
01:07:34,208 --> 01:07:35,976
I ever seen in my life.
1304
01:07:36,077 --> 01:07:38,412
[somber music]
1305
01:07:38,512 --> 01:07:40,414
* *
1306
01:07:40,514 --> 01:07:42,383
So Puff ran out
the hospital door,
1307
01:07:42,483 --> 01:07:44,118
and he grabbed my arm.
1308
01:07:44,218 --> 01:07:46,454
He said, Gene, we got to pray!
1309
01:07:46,554 --> 01:07:49,223
We got to pray! We got to pray!
1310
01:07:49,323 --> 01:07:51,592
And I knocked his hands
off of me.
1311
01:07:51,692 --> 01:07:53,194
I said, pray for what?
1312
01:07:53,294 --> 01:07:55,329
That nigga's dead, bruh.
1313
01:07:55,429 --> 01:07:58,332
He just was stunned.
1314
01:07:58,432 --> 01:08:00,368
Like, he had this look
in his eye,
1315
01:08:00,468 --> 01:08:02,970
like he couldn't believe it,
1316
01:08:03,070 --> 01:08:05,272
that he was dead.
1317
01:08:06,707 --> 01:08:08,476
He couldn't believe it.
1318
01:08:16,751 --> 01:08:20,154
[dramatic music]
1319
01:08:31,532 --> 01:08:34,235
- Feelings can't change facts,
1320
01:08:34,335 --> 01:08:36,570
but facts can change feelings.
1321
01:08:38,305 --> 01:08:41,709
I think that he placed BIG
in the atmosphere.
1322
01:08:41,809 --> 01:08:46,080
So did he directly have
something to do with it?
1323
01:08:46,180 --> 01:08:48,149
[dramatic music]
1324
01:08:48,249 --> 01:08:49,683
He could have.
1325
01:08:56,424 --> 01:08:58,292
[cheers and applause]
1326
01:08:58,392 --> 01:09:00,528
For many a-years,
1327
01:09:00,628 --> 01:09:04,699
I couldn't fight back
the tears...
1328
01:09:04,799 --> 01:09:07,802
knowing that young man
was murdered.
1329
01:09:11,739 --> 01:09:14,542
- I stopped working with him
early part of 2005,
1330
01:09:14,642 --> 01:09:17,144
because me and his mama got
into it.
1331
01:09:17,244 --> 01:09:18,446
- Janice,
right over here, please.
1332
01:09:18,546 --> 01:09:21,148
- Hey, Janice.
- Janice, right here.
1333
01:09:21,248 --> 01:09:24,018
- Puff mother
tried to degrade me.
1334
01:09:24,118 --> 01:09:28,189
She would ask me to do things
for her, like go to her car,
1335
01:09:28,289 --> 01:09:30,091
get this, get that.
1336
01:09:30,191 --> 01:09:32,660
And I wouldn't do that.
1337
01:09:32,760 --> 01:09:34,762
What the hell you
asking me to stop
1338
01:09:34,862 --> 01:09:38,366
from watching your son's safety
to go do something for you?
1339
01:09:39,834 --> 01:09:42,336
So one day, I was sitting
by Puff's office.
1340
01:09:42,436 --> 01:09:45,106
And she said, Gene, I need
for you to go to my car
1341
01:09:45,206 --> 01:09:46,240
and get this food out.
1342
01:09:46,340 --> 01:09:47,742
I said, I'm not here for that.
1343
01:09:47,842 --> 01:09:50,678
And then she start rambling,
start, like,
1344
01:09:50,778 --> 01:09:55,082
yo, everybody does
what I ask them to do...
1345
01:09:55,182 --> 01:09:56,784
except you.
1346
01:09:56,884 --> 01:09:58,552
What makes you so special?
1347
01:09:58,652 --> 01:10:00,354
And then Puff just came
out his office.
1348
01:10:00,454 --> 01:10:02,289
Why are you always messing
with Gene?
1349
01:10:02,390 --> 01:10:05,192
Leave Gene alone.
1350
01:10:05,292 --> 01:10:07,762
She just was looking.
1351
01:10:07,862 --> 01:10:11,599
And then she said, yo, yo,
I'm tired of this, man.
1352
01:10:11,699 --> 01:10:14,402
And I said,
yo, I'm tired of it, too.
1353
01:10:14,502 --> 01:10:16,604
And I walked out
and never came back.
1354
01:10:16,704 --> 01:10:21,976
* *
1355
01:10:22,076 --> 01:10:24,278
- I wanted to show
you something.
1356
01:10:25,479 --> 01:10:27,648
This is a restroom-plus.
1357
01:10:29,717 --> 01:10:33,487
Can you tell me
what the plus is?
1358
01:10:33,587 --> 01:10:35,623
- No.
- The plus.
1359
01:10:35,723 --> 01:10:41,462
* *
1360
01:10:41,562 --> 01:10:42,630
Ah.
1361
01:10:42,730 --> 01:10:46,267
* *
1362
01:10:46,367 --> 01:10:47,868
That's the plus.
1363
01:10:47,968 --> 01:10:49,403
In the back of my house,
1364
01:10:49,503 --> 01:10:51,439
that's where I keep
my trophies.
1365
01:10:51,539 --> 01:10:53,841
That's where I keep
my platinum and gold plaques.
1366
01:10:53,941 --> 01:10:56,677
I'd probably say
minimum 10, maximum 15.
1367
01:10:56,777 --> 01:10:59,280
This was my first-ever
platinum plaque--
1368
01:10:59,380 --> 01:11:02,416
Notorious B.I.G.
1369
01:11:02,516 --> 01:11:04,752
I co-executive produced
on that album.
1370
01:11:04,852 --> 01:11:08,155
I got that when I was
23 years old, I think.
1371
01:11:08,255 --> 01:11:09,323
Yeah.
1372
01:11:14,395 --> 01:11:16,630
* *
1373
01:11:16,731 --> 01:11:19,700
- After seeing
a few friends die,
1374
01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:22,703
you wake up one day,
and one got shot in the head.
1375
01:11:23,971 --> 01:11:28,776
Then you go, and then you
have another raw talent,
1376
01:11:28,876 --> 01:11:31,879
this fat kid
from Brooklyn, you know,
1377
01:11:31,979 --> 01:11:35,349
and he gets shot dead...
1378
01:11:35,449 --> 01:11:37,785
not even 25 years old.
1379
01:11:37,885 --> 01:11:40,721
And in my case,
1380
01:11:40,821 --> 01:11:43,524
after having
extortion attempts on me,
1381
01:11:43,624 --> 01:11:45,693
having guns pulled out,
1382
01:11:45,793 --> 01:11:48,796
having to deal
with so much death...
1383
01:11:48,896 --> 01:11:49,964
[dog whimpers]
1384
01:11:50,064 --> 01:11:52,433
Yeah, it wasn't cool no more.
1385
01:11:52,533 --> 01:11:54,702
You talk about fight or flight.
1386
01:11:54,802 --> 01:11:56,337
I took flight.
1387
01:11:56,437 --> 01:12:03,511
* *
1388
01:12:09,016 --> 01:12:12,853
- So there was this thing
we used to do as kids,
1389
01:12:12,953 --> 01:12:15,856
and they were called
midnight snacks, right?
1390
01:12:15,956 --> 01:12:18,893
And the midnight snacks
was usually Pop-Tarts,
1391
01:12:18,993 --> 01:12:22,730
flavored strawberry,
no frosting, extra butter,
1392
01:12:22,830 --> 01:12:25,366
coming right out the toaster,
flaming-hot,
1393
01:12:25,466 --> 01:12:28,369
with a tall glass of milk
with ice.
1394
01:12:28,469 --> 01:12:32,606
So I would send him Pop-Tarts
periodically over the years,
1395
01:12:32,707 --> 01:12:34,608
as a birthday gift,
1396
01:12:34,709 --> 01:12:36,644
to his office,
wherever it was.
1397
01:12:36,744 --> 01:12:38,646
But he would never respond.
1398
01:12:38,746 --> 01:12:40,648
* *
1399
01:12:40,748 --> 01:12:42,983
When I decided to leave
the industry--
1400
01:12:43,084 --> 01:12:46,353
and this was about '99--
1401
01:12:46,454 --> 01:12:49,323
that's when
we communicated less,
1402
01:12:49,423 --> 01:12:52,927
we saw each other less, because
I took the fork in the road.
1403
01:12:53,027 --> 01:12:56,397
And now this is
who he turned out to be.
1404
01:12:56,497 --> 01:13:00,835
* *
1405
01:13:03,971 --> 01:13:07,041
- My last encounter
with Kimberly--
1406
01:13:07,141 --> 01:13:10,878
we were at Quincy's premiere
for his Christmas special,
1407
01:13:10,978 --> 01:13:13,013
"Holiday Calendar."
1408
01:13:13,114 --> 01:13:15,082
Sean came.
1409
01:13:15,182 --> 01:13:17,918
* *
1410
01:13:18,018 --> 01:13:20,654
She said to me,
this is probably the best day
1411
01:13:20,755 --> 01:13:22,823
in a very long time,
1412
01:13:22,923 --> 01:13:26,594
seeing all of us
in the same place.
1413
01:13:26,694 --> 01:13:27,962
She was looking amazing.
1414
01:13:28,062 --> 01:13:29,964
She was healthy.
She was fantastic.
1415
01:13:30,064 --> 01:13:32,933
It was two or three weeks
prior to, um...
1416
01:13:34,835 --> 01:13:36,437
Her...
1417
01:13:36,537 --> 01:13:38,572
murder.
1418
01:13:38,672 --> 01:13:40,975
Am I supposed to say
"allegedly"?
1419
01:13:42,843 --> 01:13:46,947
November 15th,
a day I'll never forget...
1420
01:13:48,149 --> 01:13:50,751
I was on my way to film
1421
01:13:50,851 --> 01:13:53,954
the opening packages
for the BET Awards.
1422
01:13:54,055 --> 01:13:57,758
Phone rings,
and it's a dear friend of mine.
1423
01:13:57,858 --> 01:13:59,493
And...
1424
01:13:59,593 --> 01:14:02,863
she says,
did you hear about Kimberly?
1425
01:14:04,031 --> 01:14:05,866
And I said,
what about Kimberly?
1426
01:14:05,966 --> 01:14:07,535
I just saw her.
1427
01:14:07,635 --> 01:14:10,638
She says, I don't know,
1428
01:14:10,738 --> 01:14:14,375
but I've heard
that Kimberly has died.
1429
01:14:14,475 --> 01:14:17,344
[somber music]
1430
01:14:17,445 --> 01:14:20,981
* *
1431
01:14:24,819 --> 01:14:28,689
- [voice breaking]
So you're having my baby...
1432
01:14:28,789 --> 01:14:31,692
and it means so much to me.
1433
01:14:31,792 --> 01:14:34,562
There's nothing more precious
1434
01:14:34,662 --> 01:14:37,465
than to raise a family.
1435
01:14:37,565 --> 01:14:40,401
If there's any doubt
in your mind,
1436
01:14:40,501 --> 01:14:42,503
you can count on me.
1437
01:14:42,603 --> 01:14:45,039
* *
1438
01:14:45,139 --> 01:14:47,041
And that's just a day
1439
01:14:47,141 --> 01:14:51,011
that will never,
never leave my mind...
1440
01:14:53,080 --> 01:14:56,384
And just that empty feeling
of, like...
1441
01:14:56,484 --> 01:14:58,252
nah...
1442
01:14:58,352 --> 01:15:02,556
something is not
right with this.
1443
01:15:04,692 --> 01:15:07,661
- Kim Porter
had been found dead at home,
1444
01:15:07,762 --> 01:15:11,699
and an autopsy showed
that it was from complications
1445
01:15:11,799 --> 01:15:13,801
from pneumonia.
1446
01:15:13,901 --> 01:15:16,537
She was young.
She was 47 years old.
1447
01:15:16,637 --> 01:15:19,006
- Who is dying from pneumonia?
1448
01:15:19,106 --> 01:15:22,643
Seriously, pneumonia,
and to die so quickly?
1449
01:15:22,743 --> 01:15:25,746
Like, people get pneumonia
every day and don't die.
1450
01:15:25,846 --> 01:15:28,182
That doesn't seem
like a natural cause.
1451
01:15:30,551 --> 01:15:32,586
[object squeaks]
1452
01:15:33,821 --> 01:15:35,756
[device whirring]
1453
01:15:35,856 --> 01:15:37,158
- Kim dying is one
1454
01:15:37,258 --> 01:15:39,193
of those "stop you
in your tracks" moments,
1455
01:15:39,293 --> 01:15:41,595
especially if you know her.
1456
01:15:44,098 --> 01:15:47,868
And the part about it which
is so spaghetti to me is,
1457
01:15:47,968 --> 01:15:49,904
I don't think I want to know
at this point
1458
01:15:50,004 --> 01:15:52,973
because there's
so many different images
1459
01:15:53,074 --> 01:15:55,209
that have been put in my mind.
1460
01:16:00,114 --> 01:16:02,817
- This story
has become interesting
1461
01:16:02,917 --> 01:16:06,454
in several continents.
1462
01:16:06,554 --> 01:16:09,824
For the record, I've received
more than 40 inquiries
1463
01:16:09,924 --> 01:16:12,026
from production companies,
networks,
1464
01:16:12,126 --> 01:16:15,996
since brother Sean's
incarceration, to participate
1465
01:16:16,097 --> 01:16:19,834
in everyone's documentary
or something.
1466
01:16:19,934 --> 01:16:21,202
I'm gonna keep it
a buck with you.
1467
01:16:21,302 --> 01:16:23,170
I'm even surprised that
I'm sitting here right now
1468
01:16:23,270 --> 01:16:24,672
having this conversation.
1469
01:16:24,772 --> 01:16:28,142
But I do think at least
I owe it to Kimberly
1470
01:16:28,242 --> 01:16:31,245
to share just a small portion
of her truth.
1471
01:16:35,149 --> 01:16:37,918
After Sean begins
to see Kimberly,
1472
01:16:38,018 --> 01:16:39,954
Kimberly and I remain friends.
1473
01:16:40,054 --> 01:16:43,824
She started to confide in me.
1474
01:16:43,924 --> 01:16:46,994
What she did say is,
look, something's not right.
1475
01:16:47,094 --> 01:16:49,296
His soul has gone
completely dark,
1476
01:16:49,397 --> 01:16:52,633
like he's just not there.
1477
01:16:52,733 --> 01:16:54,635
Yeah.
1478
01:16:54,735 --> 01:16:55,870
Yeah, yeah.
1479
01:16:55,970 --> 01:16:57,872
She made me promise
1480
01:16:57,972 --> 01:17:01,642
on our son
Quincy Taylor Brown's life
1481
01:17:01,742 --> 01:17:03,144
not to ever reveal
1482
01:17:03,244 --> 01:17:07,148
because she was
in complete fear of my life.
1483
01:17:08,749 --> 01:17:12,319
What I do know and what
I can share at this stage
1484
01:17:12,420 --> 01:17:14,855
is that before her death,
1485
01:17:14,955 --> 01:17:17,792
she was keeping a diary
and things of that nature.
1486
01:17:17,892 --> 01:17:21,662
Someone got the pass code
to her phone and her computer.
1487
01:17:21,762 --> 01:17:24,065
And they found out
that she was writing
1488
01:17:24,165 --> 01:17:26,834
what was going on
behind closed doors.
1489
01:17:26,934 --> 01:17:28,035
The public had no idea.
1490
01:17:28,135 --> 01:17:30,171
It was happening right
in front of everybody's eyes.
1491
01:17:30,271 --> 01:17:33,040
But there's a lot of people
who turned a blind eye.
1492
01:17:38,746 --> 01:17:41,882
- There was a lot of talk,
a lot of rumors
1493
01:17:41,982 --> 01:17:43,050
that Diddy might have had
1494
01:17:43,150 --> 01:17:45,086
something to do
with Kim's death.
1495
01:17:45,186 --> 01:17:47,021
There are people
who have said,
1496
01:17:47,121 --> 01:17:49,156
well, she knew
too much about him,
1497
01:17:49,256 --> 01:17:51,192
and, she was about
to reveal all.
1498
01:17:51,292 --> 01:17:53,894
Absolutely no proof,
no evidence,
1499
01:17:53,994 --> 01:17:56,130
nothing of the sort.
1500
01:17:56,230 --> 01:17:58,599
You know, there are a lot of
conspiracy theories out there
1501
01:17:58,699 --> 01:18:00,000
but no proof.
1502
01:18:00,101 --> 01:18:04,739
And the autopsy report showed
that it was from pneumonia.
1503
01:18:14,115 --> 01:18:18,819
- Let's just say there's a lot
that goes on in the industry,
1504
01:18:18,919 --> 01:18:20,988
which is not my job to uncover,
1505
01:18:21,088 --> 01:18:24,825
but it's something that's been
going on in the industry,
1506
01:18:24,925 --> 01:18:28,863
and those who speak about it
usually meet their demise.
1507
01:18:28,963 --> 01:18:33,100
- Uptown Records started
with five people--
1508
01:18:33,200 --> 01:18:37,038
Andre Harrell,
Al B. Sure!, Heavy D,
1509
01:18:37,138 --> 01:18:38,739
and Puffy.
1510
01:18:38,839 --> 01:18:42,777
And Kim was
the longest-working employee.
1511
01:18:45,046 --> 01:18:47,415
Heavy D was found dead,
heart attack.
1512
01:18:47,515 --> 01:18:49,984
Andre Harrell, heart attack.
1513
01:18:52,353 --> 01:18:54,288
- This person
was telling the story.
1514
01:18:54,388 --> 01:18:56,223
This person
was writing a book.
1515
01:18:56,323 --> 01:18:58,893
This person's
about to tell the truth.
1516
01:18:58,993 --> 01:19:03,164
Why is everybody dead?
1517
01:19:04,765 --> 01:19:06,867
Oh, it's a coincidence.
1518
01:19:06,967 --> 01:19:08,803
Get the fuck out of here.
1519
01:19:08,903 --> 01:19:12,473
- The only two left
are Puffy and Al,
1520
01:19:12,573 --> 01:19:15,309
and Al almost died.
1521
01:19:15,409 --> 01:19:18,646
- And you'll really understand
how I ended up in a coma.
1522
01:19:18,746 --> 01:19:22,216
* *
1523
01:19:35,429 --> 01:19:38,966
- July 12th was
a very interesting day.
1524
01:19:39,066 --> 01:19:41,035
That was the day
that I went down.
1525
01:19:44,438 --> 01:19:47,341
It's not the first,
second, or third time...
1526
01:19:49,143 --> 01:19:51,145
That I've been
in that position,
1527
01:19:51,245 --> 01:19:52,813
where I actually went down.
1528
01:19:52,913 --> 01:19:54,882
I can't say too much
at this moment.
1529
01:19:54,982 --> 01:19:57,284
[dramatic music]
1530
01:19:57,385 --> 01:19:59,120
I can say this.
1531
01:19:59,220 --> 01:20:02,390
July 12th I was entered into
one of the hospitals here.
1532
01:20:07,461 --> 01:20:08,829
I was basically done.
1533
01:20:08,929 --> 01:20:10,798
They were sending me
to hospice.
1534
01:20:10,898 --> 01:20:13,200
There was nothing else
they can do.
1535
01:20:13,300 --> 01:20:15,036
So they're going
to send him to die.
1536
01:20:15,136 --> 01:20:18,172
And what transpired
in between--whoa.
1537
01:20:18,272 --> 01:20:20,141
* *
1538
01:20:20,241 --> 01:20:23,844
From what I found out later,
I was in a coma,
1539
01:20:23,944 --> 01:20:26,380
having multisystem
organ failure.
1540
01:20:34,088 --> 01:20:37,124
Every organ is working off
a machine except for the liver.
1541
01:20:37,224 --> 01:20:39,360
Even in the middle of me
going through
1542
01:20:39,460 --> 01:20:41,829
this tsunami
of a medical crisis,
1543
01:20:41,929 --> 01:20:44,098
every single person...
1544
01:20:46,333 --> 01:20:48,369
I was mindful
enough to remember.
1545
01:20:48,469 --> 01:20:52,907
I kept a record
of every single one of you
1546
01:20:53,007 --> 01:20:56,877
who were sent to set me up...
1547
01:20:56,977 --> 01:21:00,915
to assist in the attempted
murder of Al B. Sure!
1548
01:21:01,015 --> 01:21:07,955
* *
1549
01:21:08,055 --> 01:21:09,457
You're in the file.
1550
01:21:09,557 --> 01:21:13,294
- There are people
who speculate,
1551
01:21:13,394 --> 01:21:15,396
and there have been
so many conspiracy theories
1552
01:21:15,496 --> 01:21:18,466
about Diddy
potentially being involved.
1553
01:21:22,169 --> 01:21:24,405
- Three.
Oh, yeah.
1554
01:21:24,505 --> 01:21:26,540
- I can't say too much
at this moment
1555
01:21:26,640 --> 01:21:28,743
related to legal situations,
1556
01:21:28,843 --> 01:21:33,280
but I'll tell you this--
surviving death is not a game.
1557
01:21:33,381 --> 01:21:35,182
Being in a coma,
1558
01:21:35,282 --> 01:21:37,284
being on a ventilator
for 38 days,
1559
01:21:37,385 --> 01:21:39,220
being septic,
1560
01:21:39,320 --> 01:21:41,322
60 to 70 blood transfusions,
1561
01:21:41,422 --> 01:21:43,024
it's a lot.
1562
01:21:43,124 --> 01:21:44,859
It's a lot.
1563
01:21:44,959 --> 01:21:46,327
But you know what?
1564
01:21:46,427 --> 01:21:48,829
In hindsight, I'm glad
that things transpired
1565
01:21:48,929 --> 01:21:50,097
the way they did
1566
01:21:50,197 --> 01:21:52,967
because this journey has
prepared me for another level.
1567
01:21:56,370 --> 01:21:58,305
I've made a decision
to go hard,
1568
01:21:58,406 --> 01:22:00,908
as it relates
to opening the case
1569
01:22:01,008 --> 01:22:05,346
on the miraculous death
of Kim Porter...
1570
01:22:06,580 --> 01:22:10,051
Because Kimberly is gone
1571
01:22:10,151 --> 01:22:13,954
because she was going to be
Cassie Ventura...
1572
01:22:14,055 --> 01:22:15,790
[paparazzi shouting]
1573
01:22:15,890 --> 01:22:19,627
Which is blowing the lid
off of this entire situation.
1574
01:22:19,727 --> 01:22:22,229
- This is Cassie and Rihanna
1575
01:22:22,329 --> 01:22:26,233
in one of the music awards
in Europe.
1576
01:22:26,333 --> 01:22:30,037
I met Casandra Ventura
in 2004,
1577
01:22:30,137 --> 01:22:32,273
as a model, actually.
1578
01:22:32,373 --> 01:22:34,375
Cass was always a friend to me.
1579
01:22:34,475 --> 01:22:37,745
You know, she wasn't really
a clientclient.
1580
01:22:37,845 --> 01:22:42,116
- Sean Combs met Cassie
in 2005.
1581
01:22:42,216 --> 01:22:46,320
She was actually signed to
a very, very talented producer
1582
01:22:46,420 --> 01:22:49,490
who had a joint venture
with Bad Boy.
1583
01:22:49,590 --> 01:22:52,360
- * So busy, but I've been
thinking about... *
1584
01:22:52,460 --> 01:22:55,329
- So this is
Cassie's "Me & U" video.
1585
01:22:55,429 --> 01:22:57,498
The song came out in 2006.
1586
01:22:57,598 --> 01:22:59,367
She ended up getting
to number three
1587
01:22:59,467 --> 01:23:01,235
on the "Billboard" charts
with this song.
1588
01:23:01,335 --> 01:23:03,137
- Oh, here, I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
1589
01:23:03,237 --> 01:23:06,574
- 2007 is when Kim Porter
1590
01:23:06,674 --> 01:23:11,011
broke things off
with Diddy completely.
1591
01:23:11,112 --> 01:23:12,480
People suspected
1592
01:23:12,580 --> 01:23:14,982
that maybe there's more than
a business relationship
1593
01:23:15,082 --> 01:23:16,984
going on
between Cassie and Diddy,
1594
01:23:17,084 --> 01:23:21,422
because they were spotted out
a lot at different events.
1595
01:23:21,522 --> 01:23:23,290
- She didn't tell me
for, like, six months.
1596
01:23:23,391 --> 01:23:25,059
I saw pictures
of them two together,
1597
01:23:25,159 --> 01:23:27,762
and I was like, what the fuck
is going on right now?
1598
01:23:27,862 --> 01:23:30,998
Like, why are you dating
this man?
1599
01:23:31,098 --> 01:23:33,167
- What was it like
the first time you met him?
1600
01:23:33,267 --> 01:23:35,803
Were you starstruck?
- I was so nervous, so nervous.
1601
01:23:35,903 --> 01:23:37,972
But we sat down
for about two hours,
1602
01:23:38,072 --> 01:23:40,141
talked about my career
and the future.
1603
01:23:40,241 --> 01:23:42,009
And it was great.
1604
01:23:42,109 --> 01:23:43,544
You know,
it turned out amazing,
1605
01:23:43,644 --> 01:23:46,881
and he's a great guy,
great guy.
1606
01:23:46,981 --> 01:23:49,283
- People were happy for them.
They were a cute couple.
1607
01:23:49,383 --> 01:23:51,752
But when I was at "Revolt,"
he was dating Cassie,
1608
01:23:51,852 --> 01:23:53,421
and I did get the impression
1609
01:23:53,521 --> 01:23:56,390
that he's very controlling
as a boyfriend.
1610
01:23:56,490 --> 01:24:00,394
* *
1611
01:24:00,494 --> 01:24:03,564
- In 2010, it was
the night of the Grammys.
1612
01:24:03,664 --> 01:24:08,235
And he put her up
at the Beverly Hills Hotel.
1613
01:24:08,335 --> 01:24:10,404
I fall asleep in the suite.
1614
01:24:10,504 --> 01:24:13,874
I had no idea she left
to go to a party.
1615
01:24:13,974 --> 01:24:17,178
It was midnight or something,
1:00 a.m. in the morning.
1616
01:24:17,278 --> 01:24:20,247
And all I wake up to
is this motherfucker,
1617
01:24:20,347 --> 01:24:21,716
like, bursting in the room.
1618
01:24:21,816 --> 01:24:24,752
And I'm like, what is going on?
1619
01:24:24,852 --> 01:24:27,421
And he was mad at the fact
1620
01:24:27,521 --> 01:24:30,458
that she went to a party.
1621
01:24:30,558 --> 01:24:33,661
They go into the next room,
close the door.
1622
01:24:33,761 --> 01:24:35,596
So I pack her bags
1623
01:24:35,696 --> 01:24:39,567
and get her to safety.
1624
01:24:39,667 --> 01:24:42,336
That was panic mode.
1625
01:24:42,436 --> 01:24:45,473
That's when she came out...
1626
01:24:45,573 --> 01:24:49,343
knots on her head, busted lip.
1627
01:24:49,443 --> 01:24:52,246
Like, she was just beat up.
1628
01:24:52,346 --> 01:24:55,149
So what was I to do?
1629
01:24:55,249 --> 01:24:57,151
We can't stay
in this hotel room anymore.
1630
01:24:57,251 --> 01:24:59,453
We have to go.
1631
01:24:59,553 --> 01:25:01,288
I had to take her
into my house.
1632
01:25:01,389 --> 01:25:03,157
And she stayed with me.
1633
01:25:03,257 --> 01:25:05,760
We were trying to figure out
what we're going to do.
1634
01:25:07,495 --> 01:25:10,398
I just wanted to help
my friend out that night,
1635
01:25:10,498 --> 01:25:12,700
but she wanted me
to keep it quiet.
1636
01:25:17,471 --> 01:25:20,341
We can't play with Sean Combs.
1637
01:25:20,441 --> 01:25:22,443
These are things
that we have to keep,
1638
01:25:22,543 --> 01:25:24,512
like our dirty little secrets.
1639
01:25:24,612 --> 01:25:26,680
Even when we know
it isn't right,
1640
01:25:26,781 --> 01:25:31,285
it's still something that we
can't talk about to the media.
1641
01:25:31,385 --> 01:25:32,420
- When you look
1642
01:25:32,520 --> 01:25:34,021
at the music industry,
1643
01:25:34,121 --> 01:25:35,222
it's really--
1644
01:25:35,322 --> 01:25:36,657
what we're talking about is
1645
01:25:36,757 --> 01:25:38,526
institutional grooming.
1646
01:25:38,626 --> 01:25:42,329
It normalizes it,
promotes it, accepts it,
1647
01:25:42,430 --> 01:25:44,865
turns a blind eye
1648
01:25:44,965 --> 01:25:49,437
when perpetrators do this.
1649
01:25:49,537 --> 01:25:54,275
- Cassie Ventura came out
with this bombshell lawsuit
1650
01:25:54,375 --> 01:25:57,378
in November of 2023.
1651
01:25:57,478 --> 01:26:01,215
She accused him of having
complete control over her life,
1652
01:26:01,315 --> 01:26:03,651
physically abusing her,
1653
01:26:03,751 --> 01:26:08,456
forcing her to have sex
with male sex workers,
1654
01:26:08,556 --> 01:26:10,825
plying her with drugs.
1655
01:26:10,925 --> 01:26:14,428
- I remember reading every page
1656
01:26:14,528 --> 01:26:16,430
because I think I still was
1657
01:26:16,530 --> 01:26:19,367
in disbelief--like, really?
1658
01:26:19,467 --> 01:26:21,168
This had been going on?
1659
01:26:21,268 --> 01:26:22,737
He had been doing that?
1660
01:26:22,837 --> 01:26:27,341
- What was pretty astounding
was that around 24 hours
1661
01:26:27,441 --> 01:26:29,243
after Cassie filed
this lawsuit,
1662
01:26:29,343 --> 01:26:31,178
Sean Combs settled the lawsuit
1663
01:26:31,278 --> 01:26:33,681
for an undisclosed amount
of money.
1664
01:26:33,781 --> 01:26:35,850
- The fact that
it settled so fast
1665
01:26:35,950 --> 01:26:37,318
is something we can draw
1666
01:26:37,418 --> 01:26:38,486
conclusions from,
1667
01:26:38,586 --> 01:26:40,087
that he was terrified.
1668
01:26:40,187 --> 01:26:42,423
* *
1669
01:26:42,523 --> 01:26:44,492
- A few months later,
I remember Diddy
1670
01:26:44,592 --> 01:26:46,460
did an interview
on "The Breakfast Club."
1671
01:26:46,560 --> 01:26:48,496
- Recently, you said that
you were giving the artists
1672
01:26:48,596 --> 01:26:49,997
back their publishing.
1673
01:26:50,097 --> 01:26:53,667
- It was more
of me just evolving
1674
01:26:53,768 --> 01:26:55,336
as a businessman.
1675
01:26:55,436 --> 01:26:57,204
- It gave me pause.
1676
01:26:57,304 --> 01:27:01,442
Everyone just knew there was
this reputation that he had
1677
01:27:01,542 --> 01:27:03,644
for being
this shrewd businessman.
1678
01:27:03,744 --> 01:27:06,213
There's numerous artists
who have fallen out with him
1679
01:27:06,313 --> 01:27:09,316
and/or have left the label
over money disputes.
1680
01:27:09,417 --> 01:27:12,620
- From my last conversation
with BIG,
1681
01:27:12,720 --> 01:27:15,690
he just wanted to be
out of Bad Boy
1682
01:27:15,790 --> 01:27:17,491
and out with Puff
1683
01:27:17,591 --> 01:27:20,428
because Puff owned
his publishing.
1684
01:27:23,531 --> 01:27:26,434
That's a whole lot of money.
1685
01:27:26,534 --> 01:27:29,437
- 112, The Lox,
1686
01:27:29,537 --> 01:27:32,440
Total, Faith Evans,
even Mase--
1687
01:27:32,540 --> 01:27:36,410
everybody who went
to Bad Boy left...
1688
01:27:36,510 --> 01:27:38,412
left without their royalties.
1689
01:27:38,512 --> 01:27:39,747
And then he tried to come back
1690
01:27:39,847 --> 01:27:43,451
and give people back
their publishing.
1691
01:27:43,551 --> 01:27:45,653
- And a few months later,
1692
01:27:45,753 --> 01:27:48,456
we figured out
why it was strange.
1693
01:27:48,556 --> 01:27:51,125
- So, in order for you
to get your publishing,
1694
01:27:51,225 --> 01:27:54,428
you couldn't speak on anything
that has happened to you.
1695
01:27:54,528 --> 01:27:56,097
And I heard--
1696
01:27:56,197 --> 01:27:58,532
honestly, somebody told me--
one of the artists was like,
1697
01:27:58,632 --> 01:28:01,335
they only offering you,
like, $300,
1698
01:28:01,435 --> 01:28:04,271
and you got to sign the NDA.
1699
01:28:04,372 --> 01:28:05,840
- I don't think
he was oblivious
1700
01:28:05,940 --> 01:28:08,476
during his interview
on "The Breakfast Club"
1701
01:28:08,576 --> 01:28:11,412
that his whole world
was getting ready to collapse.
1702
01:28:12,813 --> 01:28:17,485
- Then CNN released
surveillance footage...
1703
01:28:17,585 --> 01:28:20,654
[dramatic music]
1704
01:28:20,755 --> 01:28:24,392
Of Diddy beating up Cassie
1705
01:28:24,492 --> 01:28:26,527
in the hotel.
1706
01:28:26,627 --> 01:28:28,362
- Couldn't unsee it.
1707
01:28:28,462 --> 01:28:30,064
You couldn't unsee it.
1708
01:28:30,164 --> 01:28:32,466
I can't give you
any explanation
1709
01:28:32,566 --> 01:28:34,835
on why that was okay.
1710
01:28:34,935 --> 01:28:37,705
- I've never seen
Puffy fight anybody.
1711
01:28:37,805 --> 01:28:39,807
I've never seen him
hit a woman.
1712
01:28:39,907 --> 01:28:42,877
So just--the video was
very disturbing when I saw it.
1713
01:28:42,977 --> 01:28:46,947
- I never seen him put his
hands on, you know, no females
1714
01:28:47,048 --> 01:28:48,816
that I was around him with.
1715
01:28:48,916 --> 01:28:52,553
- And I had to, you know,
just kind of look to see,
1716
01:28:52,653 --> 01:28:54,488
you know,
is that really Puff or not?
1717
01:28:54,588 --> 01:28:56,490
- You know, it broke
my heart, you know?
1718
01:28:56,590 --> 01:28:58,726
And then I have to wonder also,
1719
01:28:58,826 --> 01:29:01,095
like, what was going on
in his head?
1720
01:29:01,195 --> 01:29:03,497
Like, why is he really angry?
1721
01:29:03,597 --> 01:29:06,634
- And maybe he pissed her off
or she pissed him off.
1722
01:29:06,734 --> 01:29:09,603
The question is,
what caused that?
1723
01:29:13,007 --> 01:29:14,709
- No, it doesn't.
1724
01:29:14,809 --> 01:29:17,011
* *
1725
01:29:17,111 --> 01:29:18,879
- Everyone was shocked.
1726
01:29:18,979 --> 01:29:22,750
But his statement after
1727
01:29:22,850 --> 01:29:24,919
made it worse...
1728
01:29:25,019 --> 01:29:28,989
- My behavior on that video
is inexcusable.
1729
01:29:29,090 --> 01:29:31,392
I take full responsibility.
1730
01:29:31,492 --> 01:29:33,527
- Because...
1731
01:29:33,627 --> 01:29:37,732
I don't think we heard him
apologize to her.
1732
01:29:37,832 --> 01:29:40,267
- I'm not asking
for forgiveness.
1733
01:29:40,368 --> 01:29:44,939
* *
1734
01:29:45,039 --> 01:29:47,942
- By the end of 2024,
1735
01:29:48,042 --> 01:29:52,513
there's been an absolute flood
of lawsuits.
1736
01:29:52,613 --> 01:29:55,916
There have been women
who have stepped forward
1737
01:29:56,016 --> 01:29:58,586
and accused him
of sexual assault...
1738
01:29:58,686 --> 01:30:00,421
- We need to talk
about this woman
1739
01:30:00,521 --> 01:30:02,757
and what she said about
her experience with Diddy.
1740
01:30:02,857 --> 01:30:04,925
- Men who have stepped forward
and accused him
1741
01:30:05,026 --> 01:30:06,060
of sexual assault.
1742
01:30:06,160 --> 01:30:07,928
- The third person has come out
1743
01:30:08,029 --> 01:30:10,564
with a lawsuit against Diddy
in the last month.
1744
01:30:10,664 --> 01:30:12,967
- She had allegedly discovered
some of the tapes
1745
01:30:13,067 --> 01:30:15,069
that he had made
with male pop stars.
1746
01:30:15,302 --> 01:30:16,971
- Y'all ready to see hip-hop?
1747
01:30:17,071 --> 01:30:20,941
- We're over, I believe,
30 now individuals
1748
01:30:21,042 --> 01:30:22,410
who have filed lawsuits.
1749
01:30:22,510 --> 01:30:23,878
[people clamoring]
1750
01:30:23,978 --> 01:30:25,880
- I wish y'all
the best of luck.
1751
01:30:25,980 --> 01:30:27,882
[laughter]
1752
01:30:27,982 --> 01:30:32,553
- I have a client.
His name is Courtney Burgess.
1753
01:30:32,653 --> 01:30:33,921
Courtney came to me
1754
01:30:34,021 --> 01:30:36,624
because he had received
a subpoena
1755
01:30:36,724 --> 01:30:37,992
from the federal government
1756
01:30:38,092 --> 01:30:41,162
to testify in relation
to the grand jury
1757
01:30:41,262 --> 01:30:43,864
that has convened about Diddy.
1758
01:30:43,964 --> 01:30:47,168
Courtney has done interviews
where he purported
1759
01:30:47,268 --> 01:30:49,637
to own several flash drives
1760
01:30:49,737 --> 01:30:51,739
that included sex tapes
1761
01:30:51,839 --> 01:30:53,607
with eight
distinct individuals,
1762
01:30:53,708 --> 01:30:56,444
including A-list celebrities
and Diddy,
1763
01:30:56,544 --> 01:30:58,713
all engaged in sex.
1764
01:31:00,081 --> 01:31:03,751
He believes that these people
were intoxicated
1765
01:31:03,851 --> 01:31:05,619
and that they
may not have known
1766
01:31:05,720 --> 01:31:07,021
that they were being recorded.
1767
01:31:07,121 --> 01:31:11,592
And Courtney ultimately
handed over the video.
1768
01:31:14,562 --> 01:31:16,997
It's not necessarily
a quid pro quo,
1769
01:31:17,098 --> 01:31:20,067
where, oh, I'm going
to blackmail you.
1770
01:31:20,167 --> 01:31:23,471
I feel like it was more
to advance his influence
1771
01:31:23,571 --> 01:31:24,839
and his power,
1772
01:31:24,939 --> 01:31:27,074
because now I have them
on video,
1773
01:31:27,174 --> 01:31:29,343
where I can say, I'm going
to take this to your wife.
1774
01:31:29,443 --> 01:31:32,012
I'll take this to your husband.
I'll take this to the public.
1775
01:31:32,113 --> 01:31:35,149
And I'll ruin you
if you don't do this for me.
1776
01:31:43,424 --> 01:31:47,361
- I represented 11 victims
of Jeffrey Epstein.
1777
01:31:47,461 --> 01:31:50,031
Jeffrey Epstein was one
of the most prolific predators
1778
01:31:50,131 --> 01:31:51,532
that we've ever seen.
1779
01:31:51,632 --> 01:31:55,102
He had, I believe,
thousands of victims.
1780
01:31:55,202 --> 01:31:59,073
He had an operation where up
to three girls a day for years
1781
01:31:59,173 --> 01:32:01,809
were being brought to him
by recruiters
1782
01:32:01,909 --> 01:32:03,711
who found
attractive young women,
1783
01:32:03,811 --> 01:32:05,713
many of them underage,
1784
01:32:05,813 --> 01:32:08,582
brought them to him
for a couple hundred dollars.
1785
01:32:08,682 --> 01:32:11,185
They were sexually assaulted.
1786
01:32:11,285 --> 01:32:12,953
There are a lot of similarities
1787
01:32:13,054 --> 01:32:15,923
between the Jeffrey Epstein
case and Sean Combs.
1788
01:32:16,023 --> 01:32:19,627
They're both
very, very wealthy men.
1789
01:32:19,727 --> 01:32:22,363
And each one of them is
at the top of the pyramid.
1790
01:32:22,463 --> 01:32:26,534
And if there comes a time
where he is actually convicted,
1791
01:32:26,634 --> 01:32:28,035
we'll see whether it happens
to Combs.
1792
01:32:28,135 --> 01:32:30,871
- Back for me one time,
up top, up top.
1793
01:32:30,971 --> 01:32:33,607
- If you come
from a background,
1794
01:32:33,708 --> 01:32:36,010
say, Dad engaged
in criminal activity,
1795
01:32:36,110 --> 01:32:39,313
and was born
with a lot of life challenges,
1796
01:32:39,413 --> 01:32:41,549
and then you're
in an environment
1797
01:32:41,649 --> 01:32:45,920
around gang members,
sure, that can shape you.
1798
01:32:46,020 --> 01:32:47,188
But then on the other hand,
1799
01:32:47,288 --> 01:32:49,890
you have people who come
from very difficult backgrounds
1800
01:32:49,990 --> 01:32:53,027
who get themselves
into positive environments,
1801
01:32:53,127 --> 01:32:54,929
and they're fine.
1802
01:32:55,029 --> 01:32:58,132
Regardless
of what trauma you have,
1803
01:32:58,232 --> 01:33:01,001
we still have to hold
people accountable.
1804
01:33:01,102 --> 01:33:03,371
* *
1805
01:33:03,471 --> 01:33:05,740
- The story
of Lucifer in the Bible
1806
01:33:05,840 --> 01:33:08,843
is that Lucifer was
God's most beautiful angel.
1807
01:33:08,943 --> 01:33:10,945
And he was the music angel.
1808
01:33:11,045 --> 01:33:12,813
- I'm letting
all y'all niggas know,
1809
01:33:12,913 --> 01:33:14,615
if I ain't hot,
y'all niggas ain't hot.
1810
01:33:14,715 --> 01:33:16,550
- But Lucifer got
too full of himself.
1811
01:33:16,650 --> 01:33:18,619
* *
1812
01:33:18,719 --> 01:33:21,989
And God casted him
from heaven.
1813
01:33:22,089 --> 01:33:25,860
And then he became
the evil Satan
1814
01:33:25,960 --> 01:33:29,630
that we know here
on this Earth.
1815
01:33:29,730 --> 01:33:32,833
Like, when we talk
about the serpent...
1816
01:33:32,933 --> 01:33:34,435
and when the devil comes
and says,
1817
01:33:34,535 --> 01:33:36,604
I'll give you all this
if you just denounce God,
1818
01:33:36,704 --> 01:33:39,473
they're all just embodiments
of Lucifer.
1819
01:33:39,573 --> 01:33:42,743
And I think where we are now
is we're seeing an embodiment
1820
01:33:42,843 --> 01:33:45,513
of Lucifer in Sean Combs.
1821
01:33:45,613 --> 01:33:48,282
* *
1822
01:33:53,120 --> 01:33:55,289
- Ha!
1823
01:33:55,389 --> 01:33:58,092
[chuckles]
1824
01:33:59,860 --> 01:34:02,163
- Listen...
1825
01:34:02,263 --> 01:34:05,533
I been talking
about this since '97.
1826
01:34:05,633 --> 01:34:08,202
* *
1827
01:34:08,302 --> 01:34:11,872
So it's not something
I'm just now doing it.
1828
01:34:11,972 --> 01:34:13,941
I've been having a target
on my back.
1829
01:34:14,041 --> 01:34:17,611
It don't mean anything to me.
This life ain't mine's.
1830
01:34:17,712 --> 01:34:19,647
This life is God's.
1831
01:34:19,747 --> 01:34:23,017
And I'm going to do
as He say please.
1832
01:34:23,117 --> 01:34:28,923
* *
1833
01:34:29,023 --> 01:34:32,660
- These are my kids, right?
1834
01:34:32,760 --> 01:34:34,795
That's Timmy, Jr.
1835
01:34:34,895 --> 01:34:37,098
Timmy was my hero.
1836
01:34:37,198 --> 01:34:41,936
* *
1837
01:34:42,036 --> 01:34:43,971
Oh, man.
1838
01:34:44,071 --> 01:34:47,241
You know, this is us
burying my dad.
1839
01:34:47,341 --> 01:34:51,212
And then, you know, like,
maybe three, four years later,
1840
01:34:51,312 --> 01:34:53,214
we had to bury Timmy.
1841
01:34:54,915 --> 01:34:57,818
Yeah, Timmy, Jr.
1842
01:35:02,423 --> 01:35:04,959
He overdosed on fentanyl.
1843
01:35:07,061 --> 01:35:11,065
When you have a child
named after you...
1844
01:35:11,165 --> 01:35:13,801
[voice breaking] Looks
like you, acts like you...
1845
01:35:13,901 --> 01:35:16,203
I lost so much.
1846
01:35:16,303 --> 01:35:18,706
[somber music]
1847
01:35:18,806 --> 01:35:20,941
[normal voice]
I lost my dad.
1848
01:35:21,042 --> 01:35:24,612
And then we buried Timmy.
1849
01:35:24,712 --> 01:35:28,849
* *
1850
01:35:28,949 --> 01:35:31,252
So now we're here...
1851
01:35:31,352 --> 01:35:33,354
talking about Sean.
1852
01:35:33,454 --> 01:35:35,723
* *
1853
01:35:35,823 --> 01:35:38,726
I lost three...
1854
01:35:38,826 --> 01:35:41,796
I lost three of my...
1855
01:35:41,896 --> 01:35:44,365
* *
1856
01:35:44,465 --> 01:35:47,735
Yeah, gone.
1857
01:35:47,835 --> 01:35:49,837
Hoping for one to return.
1858
01:35:49,937 --> 01:35:52,840
[dramatic music]
1859
01:35:52,940 --> 01:35:55,009
That's my little bro.
1860
01:35:55,109 --> 01:35:57,912
Sean's done some bad things.
1861
01:35:58,012 --> 01:36:00,047
Sean knows it.
1862
01:36:00,147 --> 01:36:02,183
I'm scared for him.
1863
01:36:02,283 --> 01:36:04,819
* *
1864
01:36:13,361 --> 01:36:15,730
- I wouldn't know what to say,
to be honest with you.
1865
01:36:15,830 --> 01:36:17,331
I really wouldn't.
1866
01:36:19,767 --> 01:36:22,570
* *
1867
01:36:22,670 --> 01:36:25,439
I really wouldn't know
what to say.
1868
01:36:25,539 --> 01:36:27,641
[sighs]
1869
01:36:27,742 --> 01:36:29,944
- Diddy...
1870
01:36:30,044 --> 01:36:33,180
did anybody bring you
any cheesecake in there?
1871
01:36:33,280 --> 01:36:36,851
- If you're going to be
who you are,
1872
01:36:36,951 --> 01:36:38,953
be that person.
1873
01:36:39,053 --> 01:36:41,188
Don't turn around
and try to play
1874
01:36:41,288 --> 01:36:44,091
Mr. Good Guy and Mr. Nice Guy
1875
01:36:44,191 --> 01:36:46,193
when you a piece of shit
all along.
1876
01:36:46,293 --> 01:36:50,097
- Whether you innocent
or guilty...
1877
01:36:50,197 --> 01:36:52,933
karma has resurfaced.
1878
01:36:53,034 --> 01:36:56,203
[indistinct shouting]
1879
01:36:56,303 --> 01:37:00,207
- This is a man who's been
on top of the world.
1880
01:37:00,307 --> 01:37:03,411
This is someone
who has lived the life
1881
01:37:03,511 --> 01:37:07,181
ever since
he's been 20 years old.
1882
01:37:07,281 --> 01:37:09,116
* *
1883
01:37:09,216 --> 01:37:11,318
And all of a sudden,
1884
01:37:11,419 --> 01:37:14,321
all of it
is taken away from him.
1885
01:37:14,422 --> 01:37:17,458
He's just stuck
in this one square box.
1886
01:37:17,558 --> 01:37:20,461
* *
1887
01:37:20,561 --> 01:37:22,463
What do you say to him?
1888
01:37:22,563 --> 01:37:25,399
* *
1889
01:37:25,499 --> 01:37:28,569
- This is probably
the most powerful person
1890
01:37:28,669 --> 01:37:31,005
in the music industry and one
1891
01:37:31,105 --> 01:37:33,007
of the most powerful people
1892
01:37:33,107 --> 01:37:35,076
in American culture, period.
1893
01:37:35,176 --> 01:37:38,379
And so this case is enormous.
1894
01:37:38,479 --> 01:37:40,848
- And this could mean
a lot of jail time
1895
01:37:40,948 --> 01:37:42,750
if he is found guilty.
1896
01:37:42,850 --> 01:37:45,019
* *
1897
01:37:45,119 --> 01:37:47,855
- Deep down,
I knew this day would come.
1898
01:37:47,955 --> 01:37:50,157
Ain't that crazy?
1899
01:37:50,257 --> 01:37:53,594
That I'd be sitting
here with you.
1900
01:37:53,694 --> 01:37:55,663
You just say to yourself, wow.
1901
01:37:55,763 --> 01:37:57,198
You're going to have
to tell people
1902
01:37:57,298 --> 01:38:00,301
this was a good kid
at one time.
1903
01:38:01,936 --> 01:38:03,938
He's monsterized now.
1904
01:38:04,038 --> 01:38:06,207
* *
1905
01:38:06,307 --> 01:38:10,144
But the monster
wasn't born a monster.
1906
01:38:11,445 --> 01:38:14,181
Come, come.
[clicks tongue] Come.
1907
01:38:14,281 --> 01:38:17,017
Monsters are created
over time.
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