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-♪ Hey, everybody,
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♪ Joe Bob's
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-"Feast your eyes,
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glut your soul
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on my accursed ugliness."
-Yeah.
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-Is that the most famous
title card in movie history?
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It's too bad we never
got to hear Lon Chaney
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actually speak it,
because apparently he was quite
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a thespian on the live stage.
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But happy birthday,
"Phantom of the Opera."
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It has been a 100 years, and we
are here tonight to celebrate
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what most people regard as the
greatest American horror flick
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of the silent era.
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It's actually the movie
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that took the horror business
away from Germany
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and brought it back to America,
where it belongs.
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-Whoo!
-"Feast your eyes,
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glut your soul
on my accursed ugliness,"
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are the words of Lon Chaney
when his mask is ripped off.
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And Lon Chaney is the first,
last, and only movie monster
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who did his own makeup.
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And he was so determined
to create his accursed ugliness
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on screen that he actually
tortured himself.
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He mangled his own face to get
the result that he wanted.
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I don't know how many film
versions of "Phantom"
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exist today.
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More than 30, I think.
-At least, yeah.
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-But I don't think any of them
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come anywhere close to Chaney
in terms of makeup.
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He was actually
a good-looking man,
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unrecognizable under
that makeup.
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Has anybody ever done better,
Darcy?
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-No, never.
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-Darcy the Mail Girl,
ladies and gentlemen.
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Ah.
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-One of the most die-hard
"Phantom of the Opera" fans
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in the universe,
ready to preside over
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social media for the centennial.
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Send in your tweets,
your e-mails, your DMs,
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your Instas, your TikToks.
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How many times have
you watched "Phantom"?
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-Oh, gosh, I don't know.
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Like at least 50.
-50? Damn.
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-At leas, yeah.
They used to show it
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at the Silent Movie Theater
in LA.
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-And you were a regular there,
right?
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Do they still have that?
The Silent Movie Theater?
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-No, actually,
the theater is still there,
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but they went out of business
back in 2017.
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I tried to buy it, actually.
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-You tried to buy it?
-It's a long story. Anyway.
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-Well, Darcy, I had no idea.
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You really do love silent film.
-I do.
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-And you told me
that you have actually touched
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Lon Chaney's makeup case?
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-Oh, gosh, no,
I didn't touch it.
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I went to the museum
to look at it.
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-That new Academy Museum
I've been wanting to go...?
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-Yeah. No, wait.
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Actually, the makeup case
is actually
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at the Natural History Museum.
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- The one with the dinosaurs?
- Yes.
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-The La Brea Tar Pits
and all that?
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-That's the one.
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-So they consider
Lon Chaney's makeup
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part of naturalhistory?
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-Obviously. Yes.
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-See, that's how awesome he is.
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California school children
go to the museum
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and they learn,
"Hey, here's a T-Rex.
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Here's a triceratops.
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And here, boys and girls,
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is the makeup kit
of horror actor Lon Chaney,
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because he changed
the world with that makeup."
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Seriously,
why do they have it there?
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-It's LA.
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-That's your explanation
for a lot of things.
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-It's LA.
-"It's LA."
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How many actors today
in major motion pictures
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do their own special-effects
makeup?
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-Zero.
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-Have there been any actors
other than him that do that?
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-Um, I think there are a few,
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but they're more in, like,
the low-budget pictures.
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It's not -- often you don't
have a choice.
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You just have to
make it work yourself.
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-Because Jack Pierce did
all the Universal monsters,
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but he never did Chaney.
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I think he consulted
on the Chaney films,
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but he didn't do
the actual makeup.
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-And I think Lon Chaney
directed
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the reveal scene of his makeup.
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-I have heard that story.
-Yeah.
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-when Christine rips off
the Phantom's mask,
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supposedly, Mary Philbin,
who played Christine,
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was not reacting
in the right way,
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so Cheney waited till
Rupert Julian, the director,
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went home for the day.
Cheney hated Rupert Julian.
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He wouldn't talk to him.
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The cinematographer
had to carry messages
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back and forth
between the two men.
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So Cheney waits till
Julian is gone for the day,
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and he calls the crew
back together,
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and he improvs with Mary Philbin
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until he gets the exact reaction
to the makeup that he wants.
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Anyway, I'm still
a little boggled by the fact
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that you were a regular
at the Silent Movie Theater.
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-What? Why?
-I guess -- I guess that was
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the last place in the world
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that was still showing
silent films, right?
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-I don't know about that,
but It was a really great place.
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I loved it.
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-One of the real tragedies
of history
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is that 80% of the silent films
are lost.
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And actually, the version
of "Phantom of the Opera"
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that we're about
to watch tonight
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is not the original version
seen at the official premiere
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at the Astor Theatre
in Times Square
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on September the 6th, 1925.
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That version
does not exist anymore.
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It's lost.
Um, I'll get to that later.
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And actually,
the original version is not
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really the original version.
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The very first version
of "Phantom"
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was shown at the 2,000-seat
California Theatre
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in downtown LA
on January 7th of that year.
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And the audience hated it.
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So universal did re-shoots
and re-edits
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and showed it again
three weeks later,
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and the test audience
hated it even more.
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And do you know the reason
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that the test audiences
hated the movie, Darcy?
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-Uh, because they
didn't like Christine kissing
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the Phantom at the end.
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-Exactly.
But not only that,
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they didn't think
the Phantom should be allowed
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to liveat the end of the movie.
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-I love the Phantom.
The Phantom is a badass.
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-Well, the original audiences
in 1925 thought
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that he deserved nothing less
than the death penalty.
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-'Cause he's ugly.
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-So Carl Laemmle,
the head of Universal,
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told Rupert Julian
to change the ending.
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And Rupert Julian
didn't want to do it.
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He pointed out
that the Phantom does not die
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at the end
of Gaston Leroux's novel.
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There's a suggestion that maybe
he commits suicide much later.
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But really, it doesn't matter,
because in the novel,
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he redeems himself
after Christine kisses him.
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He feels the power
of unconditional love,
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and it's so powerful that he
tells Christine to marry Raoul,
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and the test audiences said,
"Fuck unconditional love!
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Murder his ass!"
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And so they took a subplot,
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and they kind of wedged it
into the main story,
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and they had
Edward Sedgwick direct it.
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He normally did
quickie Westerns.
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And once you had the Phantom
being killed by a mob,
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the movie tested
through the roof
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and actually became
the most successful movie
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in Universal history
up to that time.
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-People are awful.
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-True.
And that's my point,
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because apparently the Phantom
has to die because...he's ugly?
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He can't redeem himself.
He's too ugly.
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So tonight, we're celebrating
the 100th anniversary
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of the movie that explores
the theme of ugliness.
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And, 'cause there are lots
of reasons to hate the Phantom.
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He's sneaky, he's violent,
he's controlling,
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he's willing to commit murder
to get what he wants.
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But the main reason
audiences hate him is he's ugly.
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So in Gaston Leroux's book,
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he's described as
a "living skull,"
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and Chaney tried to live up
to that description.
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He raised his cheekbones
with cotton
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stuffed inside his mouth
and collodion on the outside.
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Collodion is a very flammable,
syrupy substance
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that creates the appearance
of scarred skin when it dries.
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He glued his ears
to the side of his head.
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He used a skull cap to make his
forehead several inches higher,
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and then he flat-pressed
stringy, black hair across it.
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He exaggerated the creases
in his brow with a black pencil.
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He painted the outer parts
of his eye sockets black,
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and then he put
white highlights around that
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to make it look like
a skeleton head.
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He used a rotting set
of false teeth
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and put prongs in them
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to hold his mouth open wide
at all times.
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He distorted his lips
and face with grease paint,
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and worst of all,
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he put putty around his nose
to sharpen the angle,
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and then he inserted two loops
of wire into his nostrils
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to make them flare.
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Then he attached
additional wires to his nose
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and the skull cap
hidden by putty
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to yank those nostrils upward.
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So all of these effects
were quite painful,
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and in some scenes
they had to stop shooting
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because of his bleeding.
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The makeup was so shocking
and so integral to the story
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that Carl Laemmle gave
strict orders
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that no pictures of the Phantom
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would be released prior
to the opening of the film.
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So, Darcy...
-Yes.
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-...do you think
the Lon Chaney Phantom is
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the definition of ugly?
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-What? No, of course not.
He's beautiful.
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And, Christine -- let's be real.
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She is a bitch for freaking out
that much when he's unmasked.
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Like, for real.
Then later, oh, my God,
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when she stops to wonder
if she should destroy
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the whole city rather than
hook up with an uggo?
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Girl, come on.
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That bugs me so much.
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-All right.
Yeah, I agree with you
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that the moral choices
of Christine
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never get questioned, do they?
Uh, but --
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-I'm questioning it.
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-Because she's beautiful,
and the --
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and in the opinion of most
people, he is not beautiful.
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All right.
-That's messed up.
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-Here's what we're gonna do,
though.
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We're gonna spend the night
deciding what is ugly,
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as horror professionals,
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because if you're, say,
a fashion designer
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or really anybody
dealing with body products,
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you have to constantly ask
yourself the question,
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"What is beautiful?"
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And our idea of what is
beautiful changes over time.
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And different cultures have
different ideas of beauty.
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So I assume that different
cultures have
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different ideas of ugly as well.
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When you adapt the Gaston Leroux
no vel to the screen,
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the first thing
you have to decide is,
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what do we want
the Phantom to look like
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when he gets unmasked?
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Because the novel makes it clear
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that he's the smartest person
in the world,
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he's the most resourceful person
in the world,
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the most talented magician,
most talented architect,
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performer, engineer.
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He can do anything,
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but he happens to be
the ugliest person in the world.
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Not because something happened
to him.
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He was just born that way.
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So this is a dream project
for whoever does
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the special-effects makeup.
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You're gonna go crazy
on ugliness,
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but when you do that,
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you're gonna reveal
things about yourself
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'cause it's just what you find
to be the definition of ugly.
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So at the first break, I'm
gonna bring out Shane Morton.
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Whoo!
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-Shane does production design
for us, makeup,
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art direction, set building
here at "The Last Drive-In."
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He is a man of many talents.
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And I am gonna ask Shane
to take a lucky volunteer
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and ugly him up during the show.
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But not just any volunteer.
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Shane is going to apply
makeup to Spencer Charnas,
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founder and frontman
of Ice Nine Kills,
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the horror-themed metal band.
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They are now touring
with Metallica, in fact...
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-Whoo!
-...and putting out
awesome albums.
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They just have one awesome album
after another.
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And the reason I chose Spencer
is that
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he's one of the best-looking
guys in show business.
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Classic good looks.
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And so it's an especially tough
challenge for Shane
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to turn him into the world's
ugliest human being.
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Okay.
And then while we're doing that,
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I'm also gonna be
showing various photos of actors
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who have played the Phantom
throughout history
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so that we can see
what they perceive to be ugly,
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hideous, revolting.
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Supposedly, the Lon Chaney
makeup made women
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faint from shock.
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So if he could do that in 1925,
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let's see what these guys could
do in subsequent generations
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when they had a lot more tools
at their disposal.
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Like, okay, look at this one.
Put it up, Austin.
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This is the face of Claude Rains
in the 1943 remake.
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Jack Pierce was really motivated
to just destroy the face,
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but the studio said no,
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they didn't want
the makeup to be too intense.
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So, and they even created
a ridiculous backstory
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about the Phantom
being a frustrated composer
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who strangles a music publisher,
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and that causes
the publisher's assistant
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to throw acid in his face.
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Gaston Leroux would
have hated that.
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The whole idea is
that the Phantom is born ugly.
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He's not unlucky.
He's not a victim.
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The only thing
that distinguishes him
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from all other men
is that he was born
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with an unattractive face.
310
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So what do you think of the
Claude Rains makeup, Darcy?
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-He's just a handsome man
with a really big scar.
312
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-Exactly.
And remember this one?
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-Oh, my God.
Gerard Butler in the musical?
314
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Give me a fricking break, man.
315
00:12:26,172 --> 00:12:28,896
-I think it's even less glopola
than the Claude Rains makeup.
316
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-Yeah. Get out of here,
Gerard Butler.
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How can we possibly think
that's a hideous monster?
318
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-Come on.
-Yeah. They weren't trying
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very hard in the musical.
-No.
320
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-What do you think is ugly?
321
00:12:37,241 --> 00:12:39,482
-Oh, wow.
That is a very deep question.
322
00:12:39,586 --> 00:12:41,896
-Well, it is, but it's
the question for tonight,
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so take some time to think
that over.
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-All right.
-Let's get this party started.
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We are about to watch the
sensitive story of a musician,
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engineer, architect, magician
who lives five levels down
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from the Garnier Opera House
in Paris,
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next to an underground lake
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where he hides his hideous face
from civilization
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with his movements
causing rumors
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that there's a ghost
in the building.
332
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Unfortunately
for everybody in the cast,
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but fortunately for the story,
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he falls in love with a young
opera singer named Christine
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and manipulates everything
above ground to make sure that,
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"A," she becomes famous
and "B," he possesses her.
337
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Now, you would think it
would be easier to possess her
338
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if she does not become famous.
339
00:13:18,034 --> 00:13:19,931
But the Phantom logic
is mysterious
340
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because of his own great talent
as a singer and musician,
341
00:13:23,448 --> 00:13:25,448
the Phantom is
able to coach her to greatness
342
00:13:25,551 --> 00:13:27,413
without ever revealing
his own face.
343
00:13:27,517 --> 00:13:30,379
Meanwhile, a boring but handsome
young count falls in love
344
00:13:30,482 --> 00:13:32,931
with her as well,
causing her great anguish
345
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as she's forced to choose
between the man
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who controls her career
and the man who's hot.
347
00:13:38,827 --> 00:13:41,275
Christine really agonizes
over that,
348
00:13:41,379 --> 00:13:45,275
and the stakes get higher and
higher as the bodies pile up.
349
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Does that about sum it up,
Darcy?
350
00:13:47,206 --> 00:13:49,724
-Not really, but Christine is
a little bit of an airhead,
351
00:13:49,827 --> 00:13:52,034
don't you think?
-I would agree with that,
actually.
352
00:13:52,137 --> 00:13:53,793
Mary Philbin was that actress.
353
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Not an airhead in real life,
but yeah.
354
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So let's look at those
Drive-In Totals and get started.
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We have...
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Drive-In Academy Award
nominations for...
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Arthur Edmund Carewe
as Inspector Ledoux
358
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for wearing a fez
and black eyeliner
359
00:14:57,965 --> 00:14:59,379
and getting away with it.
360
00:14:59,482 --> 00:15:02,586
Norman Kerry
as the Vicomte Raoul de Chagny
361
00:15:02,689 --> 00:15:06,448
for chasing after Christine
and for owning a barouche.
362
00:15:06,551 --> 00:15:10,137
Mary Philbin as Christine Daaé
for heaving her bosom
363
00:15:10,241 --> 00:15:12,000
and for deciding
that being an opera star
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isn't worth a relationship
with the Phantom.
365
00:15:14,448 --> 00:15:16,724
And, of course, Lon Chaney,
366
00:15:16,827 --> 00:15:19,448
the Man of a Thousand Faces,
as the Phantom
367
00:15:19,551 --> 00:15:22,000
for creating the Phantom's
iconic look
368
00:15:22,103 --> 00:15:24,034
and for doing more
with his hands and eyes
369
00:15:24,137 --> 00:15:26,206
than many actors
could do with words.
370
00:15:26,310 --> 00:15:30,586
Four stars.
Joe Bob says, check it out.
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00:15:30,689 --> 00:15:33,000
-Yay.
372
00:15:33,103 --> 00:15:34,551
-I'll tell you what's ugly.
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00:15:34,655 --> 00:15:36,137
-Yeah?
374
00:15:36,241 --> 00:15:37,482
-I was just reminded of it.
375
00:15:37,586 --> 00:15:39,517
The Astor Theatre,
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00:15:39,620 --> 00:15:41,896
where this movie premiered,
377
00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:44,793
and three other theaters
on Times Square
378
00:15:44,896 --> 00:15:49,344
were all torn down so they could
build the Marriott Marquis.
379
00:15:49,448 --> 00:15:51,103
Have you been
in the Marriott Marquis?
380
00:15:51,206 --> 00:15:52,793
That high-rise with the atrium
381
00:15:52,896 --> 00:15:54,620
where people periodically
commit suicide?
382
00:15:54,724 --> 00:15:58,000
Far be it from me to criticize
the Marriott Corporation,
383
00:15:58,103 --> 00:15:59,793
but really?!
384
00:15:59,896 --> 00:16:02,103
FourTheater District theaters?
385
00:16:02,206 --> 00:16:04,034
are we really better off
that we have a high-rise
386
00:16:04,137 --> 00:16:05,482
where people can get
a better view
387
00:16:05,586 --> 00:16:08,896
of Ryan Seacrest once a year?
388
00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:10,448
-Are you asking me?
-Yes.
389
00:16:10,551 --> 00:16:14,000
-Oh, um,
Ryan Seacrest is fine.
390
00:16:14,103 --> 00:16:17,000
-Four classic Broadway
theaters, Darcy!
391
00:16:17,103 --> 00:16:20,413
So you can order a $30 cocktail
in a revolving restaurant!
392
00:16:20,517 --> 00:16:22,000
-Oh, yes. That -- That is sad.
393
00:16:22,103 --> 00:16:23,931
-It's abominable, Darcy!
It's an outrage!
394
00:16:24,034 --> 00:16:26,413
-It's true. Calm down, Man.
-I can't!
395
00:34:06,655 --> 00:34:08,724
-I've never seen you wear a hat
like that before.
396
00:34:08,827 --> 00:34:10,827
-Oh, yeah.
397
00:34:10,931 --> 00:34:12,758
This is called a straw boater.
398
00:34:12,862 --> 00:34:14,137
Popular in the '20s.
399
00:34:14,241 --> 00:34:16,034
I was trying to get a look
400
00:34:16,137 --> 00:34:20,448
that was like the 1925 premiere
of "Phantom of the opera."
401
00:34:20,551 --> 00:34:23,862
And so, you know, tweed -- like,
Yale fraternity is what this is.
402
00:34:23,965 --> 00:34:25,310
-Yeah.
-And then the jodhpurs.
403
00:34:25,413 --> 00:34:27,517
Erich von Stroheim.
You know, they wore these.
404
00:34:27,620 --> 00:34:30,275
They have thighs, giant thighs.
I don't know why.
405
00:34:30,379 --> 00:34:32,241
-Nice.
-Anyway, what is your --
406
00:34:32,344 --> 00:34:33,482
what are you going for here?
407
00:34:33,586 --> 00:34:36,655
-Oh, well,
I was attempting '20s flapper.
408
00:34:36,758 --> 00:34:38,275
Didn't...
-That's flappery.
409
00:34:38,379 --> 00:34:39,862
-I mean,
it's flapper adjacent.
410
00:34:39,965 --> 00:34:41,931
-No, that qualifies as flapper.
411
00:34:42,034 --> 00:34:43,689
-We're '20s-y.
-Yeah.
412
00:34:43,793 --> 00:34:44,896
-More or less.
413
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:46,965
-Lot going on
in these early scenes,
414
00:34:47,068 --> 00:34:49,620
which appear to have been shot
in the actual Paris Opera House,
415
00:34:49,724 --> 00:34:52,137
but actually,
they built the Paris Opera House
416
00:34:52,241 --> 00:34:55,310
on the Universal backlot!
Stage 28,
417
00:34:55,413 --> 00:34:57,931
where they constructed
the interior of the Paris Opera,
418
00:34:58,034 --> 00:35:00,137
plus the grand staircase
made of marble,
419
00:35:00,241 --> 00:35:01,931
was such a famous set
420
00:35:02,034 --> 00:35:03,586
that it became
a tourist attraction
421
00:35:03,689 --> 00:35:06,275
long before the Universal
theme park even existed.
422
00:35:06,379 --> 00:35:08,862
At the time that
Gaston Leroux wrote the novel,
423
00:35:08,965 --> 00:35:10,793
t he Paris Opera House was
the largest
424
00:35:10,896 --> 00:35:13,068
and most famous
opera house in the world,
425
00:35:13,172 --> 00:35:15,793
and the Paris Opera House set
was the largest
426
00:35:15,896 --> 00:35:18,379
and most famous
movie set in the world.
427
00:35:18,482 --> 00:35:21,206
Uh, one thing
I never understood --
428
00:35:21,310 --> 00:35:23,206
I thought it was kind of
a fictional stretch --
429
00:35:23,310 --> 00:35:26,689
is how the Phantom could hide
himself in an opera house.
430
00:35:26,793 --> 00:35:29,896
I mean, I've -- I've performed
in many opera houses.
431
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:31,758
For much of America's history,
432
00:35:31,862 --> 00:35:33,862
every city and small town
had an opera house.
433
00:35:33,965 --> 00:35:35,482
And in many places,
434
00:35:35,586 --> 00:35:37,344
the opera house became
the downtown movie theater.
435
00:35:37,448 --> 00:35:39,896
And even in the ones
with massive dressing rooms
436
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,517
and offices under the stage
and lower levels,
437
00:35:42,620 --> 00:35:43,862
you never think, "Wow.
438
00:35:43,965 --> 00:35:45,344
If somebody's set up camp
right over there,
439
00:35:45,448 --> 00:35:47,000
they could go undetected
for years."
440
00:35:47,103 --> 00:35:48,758
You just don't think that.
441
00:35:48,862 --> 00:35:51,172
But that was
before I knew the dimensions
442
00:35:51,275 --> 00:35:53,068
of the Paris Opera House.
443
00:35:53,172 --> 00:35:55,620
It was built
by architect Charles Garnier.
444
00:35:55,724 --> 00:35:58,620
He was commissioned
by Emperor Napoleon III,
445
00:35:58,724 --> 00:36:01,482
who died before
it actually opened in 1878.
446
00:36:01,586 --> 00:36:05,206
But Napoleon's idea was to make
it the grandest opera house
447
00:36:05,310 --> 00:36:07,310
in the world, and he succeeded.
448
00:36:07,413 --> 00:36:11,620
First of all, it has 17 floors.
449
00:36:11,724 --> 00:36:15,000
Five of those floors
are cellars and sub-cellars.
450
00:36:15,103 --> 00:36:17,655
It goes down five stories
into the ground.
451
00:36:17,758 --> 00:36:19,482
And when they were
excavating,
452
00:36:19,586 --> 00:36:21,724
they discovered
an underground river down there.
453
00:36:21,827 --> 00:36:24,827
So there are nine lakes
under the opera house,
454
00:36:24,931 --> 00:36:27,413
and they diverted much
of that water into two tanks
455
00:36:27,517 --> 00:36:29,448
that hold 22,000 gallons
456
00:36:29,551 --> 00:36:31,965
that they use internally
at the opera.
457
00:36:32,068 --> 00:36:34,448
There are 14 furnaces
down there.
458
00:36:34,551 --> 00:36:36,482
That's got to add to
the creepiness.
459
00:36:36,586 --> 00:36:40,517
There are 2,531 doors
in the building,
460
00:36:40,620 --> 00:36:43,896
requiring 7,593 keys.
-Wow.
461
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:47,034
-There are dressing rooms
for 500 performers.
462
00:36:47,137 --> 00:36:49,137
There's a stable for 12 horses
463
00:36:49,241 --> 00:36:51,241
that they used
in various productions.
464
00:36:51,344 --> 00:36:54,896
So it's no wonder that legends
grew up around this building.
465
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,034
It was one of --
and it was one of those legends
466
00:36:57,137 --> 00:36:59,413
that Gaston Leroux heard
when he got the idea
467
00:36:59,517 --> 00:37:01,344
for "Phantom of the Opera."
468
00:37:01,448 --> 00:37:04,655
"Phantom of the Opera"
was a newspaper serial, uh,
469
00:37:04,758 --> 00:37:08,862
starting at the end of 1909,
continuing into 1910.
470
00:37:08,965 --> 00:37:12,241
It was serialized in the daily
newspaper "Le Gaulois."
471
00:37:12,344 --> 00:37:15,413
Um, and it was
not well-reviewed.
472
00:37:15,517 --> 00:37:18,793
And in fact, I would say
it's a very flawed novel,
473
00:37:18,896 --> 00:37:20,551
possibly because
it was written in installments.
474
00:37:20,655 --> 00:37:22,620
Nevertheless, anybody
who was familiar
475
00:37:22,724 --> 00:37:25,206
with the Garnier opera House
in the year 1910
476
00:37:25,310 --> 00:37:27,206
would have not
been surprised that
477
00:37:27,310 --> 00:37:30,724
somebody could hide underneath
it for years, if not decades.
478
00:37:30,827 --> 00:37:33,862
Now, you'll notice there's a lot
of trap doors in the movie.
479
00:37:33,965 --> 00:37:36,896
I think they used them just to
economize on the storytelling.
480
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:38,793
It's easier to get somebody
from one level
481
00:37:38,896 --> 00:37:40,724
to the next without having
to shoot them going
482
00:37:40,827 --> 00:37:42,758
up and down stairways.
483
00:37:42,862 --> 00:37:45,275
I should also point out that
Gaston Leroux was a journalist,
484
00:37:45,379 --> 00:37:47,000
and he was doing a sort of
"Blair Witch" thing
485
00:37:47,103 --> 00:37:48,344
with the story.
486
00:37:48,448 --> 00:37:50,655
The book is a collection
of documents, depositions,
487
00:37:50,758 --> 00:37:53,310
testimonies,
accounts by narrators
488
00:37:53,413 --> 00:37:55,482
who may or may not be reliable.
489
00:37:55,586 --> 00:37:58,655
He was implying that
the whole story was nonfiction,
490
00:37:58,758 --> 00:38:00,862
which was possible with
the original ending,
491
00:38:00,965 --> 00:38:03,655
not possible
with the Universal ending.
492
00:38:03,758 --> 00:38:05,172
Anyway, the most successful
Universal film
493
00:38:05,275 --> 00:38:08,344
prior to "Phantom" was
"The Hunchback of Notre Dame,"
494
00:38:08,448 --> 00:38:11,586
which came out in 1923,
also starring Lon Chaney.
495
00:38:11,689 --> 00:38:13,517
And that's why,
when Carl Laemmle happened
496
00:38:13,620 --> 00:38:15,586
to meet Gaston Leroux in Paris,
497
00:38:15,689 --> 00:38:17,517
and he got a copy
of the "Phantom" novel,
498
00:38:17,620 --> 00:38:19,413
he knew right away
he wanted to make that movie
499
00:38:19,517 --> 00:38:22,758
because it had all the same
elements -- a Paris landmark,
500
00:38:22,862 --> 00:38:26,379
a deformed outcast living
inside the Paris landmark
501
00:38:26,482 --> 00:38:28,172
in love with a beautiful woman.
502
00:38:28,275 --> 00:38:30,758
Of course, the difference was
that "Hunchback"
503
00:38:30,862 --> 00:38:32,586
was written by Victor Hugo,
504
00:38:32,689 --> 00:38:34,413
one of the greatest
French writers who ever lived.
505
00:38:34,517 --> 00:38:36,827
And "Phantom" was written
by a flashy news reporter
506
00:38:36,931 --> 00:38:38,793
who occasionally wrote
detective stories.
507
00:38:38,896 --> 00:38:40,310
So, no matter.
508
00:38:40,413 --> 00:38:43,034
Laemmle assigned his top
writing team to the project.
509
00:38:43,137 --> 00:38:45,724
His hottest director
at the time, Rupert Julian,
510
00:38:45,827 --> 00:38:47,862
a New Zealander
who had just been brought in
511
00:38:47,965 --> 00:38:50,172
to save a movie called
"Merry-Go-Round"
512
00:38:50,275 --> 00:38:52,551
after Erich von Stroheim
went crazy over-budget
513
00:38:52,655 --> 00:38:54,206
and had to be fired.
514
00:38:54,310 --> 00:38:57,137
Rupert Julian was well known
as an actor as well,
515
00:38:57,241 --> 00:39:01,517
but mainly because he was a dead
ringer for Kaiser Wilhelm II.
516
00:39:01,620 --> 00:39:03,655
He had starred as the Kaiser
517
00:39:03,758 --> 00:39:06,827
in a movie called
"The Kaiser: Beast of Berlin."
518
00:39:06,931 --> 00:39:10,275
Uh, but Rupert Julian was a lot
like the Kaiser in real life.
519
00:39:10,379 --> 00:39:12,896
He was a strict,
by-the-book disciplinarian,
520
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:16,103
always perfectly coiffed,
groomed, and dressed.
521
00:39:16,206 --> 00:39:18,862
I've done a little bit
of a Rupert Julian
with this, you know?
522
00:39:18,965 --> 00:39:20,965
Kind of guy
who wore spats over his shoes,
523
00:39:21,068 --> 00:39:23,965
you know, kind of a dandy
with an overbearing attitude.
524
00:39:24,068 --> 00:39:26,965
And as I said before,
Cheney hated him,
525
00:39:27,068 --> 00:39:28,965
and he ended up
refusing to talk to him.
526
00:39:29,068 --> 00:39:30,862
The two men communicated
through messages
527
00:39:30,965 --> 00:39:33,344
that were carried back and forth
by the cinematographer,
528
00:39:33,448 --> 00:39:35,137
Charles Van Enger.
529
00:39:35,241 --> 00:39:37,034
Anyway, Carl Laemmle found
the book.
530
00:39:37,137 --> 00:39:39,310
He set about making it
the next big Lon Cheney role.
531
00:39:39,413 --> 00:39:40,862
But he had one big problem --
532
00:39:40,965 --> 00:39:43,206
Cheney was an MGM
contract player.
533
00:39:43,310 --> 00:39:45,724
He had to go to MGM,
hat in hand,
534
00:39:45,827 --> 00:39:48,620
and asked to borrow him
for an undisclosed sum.
535
00:39:48,724 --> 00:39:51,551
But finally,
on May the 17th, 1924,
536
00:39:51,655 --> 00:39:53,310
Laemmle was able to announce
537
00:39:53,413 --> 00:39:55,275
at a sales conference
in New York City
538
00:39:55,379 --> 00:39:57,137
that Cheney had been secured
539
00:39:57,241 --> 00:39:59,896
for the next big prestige
Universal movie.
540
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,793
And then Laemmle would go on
to spend $2 million
541
00:40:02,896 --> 00:40:06,655
on the movie itself, probably
an equal amount on promotion.
542
00:40:06,758 --> 00:40:10,137
So to give you some perspective,
in 2025 terms,
543
00:40:10,241 --> 00:40:13,344
that would amount to
about $74 million.
544
00:40:13,448 --> 00:40:16,068
But here's what makes
that number truly astounding.
545
00:40:16,172 --> 00:40:19,586
The same studio was
turning out five-reel Westerns,
546
00:40:19,689 --> 00:40:21,965
many of them starring
Hoot Gibson,
547
00:40:22,068 --> 00:40:24,862
for $12,000 per movie.
548
00:40:24,965 --> 00:40:27,793
And part of Laemmle's
promotion for the movie
549
00:40:27,896 --> 00:40:29,724
was Stage 28 itself.
550
00:40:29,827 --> 00:40:32,034
There were pictures
in the newspapers and magazines
551
00:40:32,137 --> 00:40:35,000
when the Llewellyn steel company
poured the concrete.
552
00:40:35,103 --> 00:40:37,724
There was publicity
when the Hammond Lumber Company
553
00:40:37,827 --> 00:40:40,137
provided trucks carrying
the largest lumber order
554
00:40:40,241 --> 00:40:41,896
in the history of their company.
555
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:43,758
Universal employees were sent
to Europe
556
00:40:43,862 --> 00:40:46,310
to buy and/or photograph
interior objects
557
00:40:46,413 --> 00:40:47,896
that could be used on the sets.
558
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:49,758
Ben Carré,
a Hollywood art director
559
00:40:49,862 --> 00:40:51,655
who had worked
at the Paris Opera,
560
00:40:51,758 --> 00:40:55,103
created 24 charcoal sketches
of locales in the novel
561
00:40:55,206 --> 00:40:57,862
that were re-created
down to the smallest detail.
562
00:40:57,965 --> 00:41:00,137
So from the very beginning,
563
00:41:00,241 --> 00:41:02,068
"The Phantom of the Opera"
was perceived
564
00:41:02,172 --> 00:41:04,655
as the biggest event
in the history of Hollywood.
565
00:41:04,758 --> 00:41:07,172
They even shot part of it
in color,
566
00:41:07,275 --> 00:41:11,655
using a natural color process
called Prizma for the opening,
567
00:41:11,758 --> 00:41:14,241
early Technicolor
for the masked ball,
568
00:41:14,344 --> 00:41:17,137
and some other weird
color process for the scene
569
00:41:17,241 --> 00:41:18,862
on the roof with the gargoyles.
570
00:41:18,965 --> 00:41:21,344
Okay, I'm gonna talk
this movie to death
571
00:41:21,448 --> 00:41:23,068
if I don't shut up.
572
00:41:23,172 --> 00:41:24,689
So, uh, is Spencer ready?
573
00:41:24,793 --> 00:41:25,965
Hey, Spencer.
574
00:41:26,068 --> 00:41:27,275
-What's up, Joe Bob?
575
00:41:27,379 --> 00:41:29,413
-Welcome to "The Last Drive-In."
576
00:41:29,517 --> 00:41:31,482
-Thanks for having me.
I'm ready to get ugly here.
577
00:41:31,586 --> 00:41:33,241
-Shane here
is about to turn your face
578
00:41:33,344 --> 00:41:35,344
into the ultimate definition
of ugly.
579
00:41:35,448 --> 00:41:37,655
-Super ugly.
-Super ugly.
580
00:41:37,758 --> 00:41:39,068
-And I want to keep
the makeup on.
581
00:41:39,172 --> 00:41:41,000
I've got a flight to catch,
582
00:41:41,103 --> 00:41:42,827
so hopefully I scare some
of the flight attendants.
583
00:41:42,931 --> 00:41:44,551
-Yeah, TSA is gonna love that.
584
00:41:44,655 --> 00:41:46,517
Yeah, I'm already
on the no-fly list.
585
00:41:46,620 --> 00:41:48,620
-Well, I've seen
Ice Nine Kills live,
586
00:41:48,724 --> 00:41:52,241
where you reproduce iconic
horror films in amazing detail.
587
00:41:52,344 --> 00:41:54,310
And I've been to
your horror convention in Salem,
588
00:41:54,413 --> 00:41:57,068
Massachusetts,
or right next door to Salem.
589
00:41:57,172 --> 00:42:00,034
Uh, I've been in one
of your horror-based videos.
590
00:42:00,137 --> 00:42:01,586
And I have to say, Spencer,
591
00:42:01,689 --> 00:42:06,137
Ice Nine Kills is the nexus
between metal and horror.
592
00:42:06,241 --> 00:42:09,034
-And now I'm gonna have
the face to prove it.
593
00:42:09,137 --> 00:42:12,379
-And Shane,
I know you idolize Lon Chaney.
594
00:42:12,482 --> 00:42:15,586
-Since I saw him on PBS
when I was five.
595
00:42:15,689 --> 00:42:17,551
I've had this tattoo since '92.
596
00:42:17,655 --> 00:42:19,724
Sometimes it scares me
when I wake up with it there.
597
00:42:19,827 --> 00:42:23,379
So, yeah. Lon Chaney is my god.
598
00:42:23,482 --> 00:42:25,724
-And you actually teach
makeup classes based on
599
00:42:25,827 --> 00:42:28,655
many of the techniques
that Lon Chaney originated?
600
00:42:28,758 --> 00:42:31,551
-I do. Like, when I --
when I teach these classes,
601
00:42:31,655 --> 00:42:32,862
you got to start off
with the foundation
602
00:42:32,965 --> 00:42:34,689
of where all this stuff
comes from,
603
00:42:34,793 --> 00:42:39,034
and Lon Chaney's
"Phantom of the Opera makeup,
604
00:42:39,137 --> 00:42:41,896
this buildup of the ocular
ridge, all this stuff,
605
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:44,103
it's bringing out the skull
beneath the skin.
606
00:42:44,206 --> 00:42:47,413
And it's still the foundation
for every zombie makeup.
607
00:42:47,517 --> 00:42:49,379
And Rick Baker did
for "Thriller,"
608
00:42:49,482 --> 00:42:51,689
to, like "Walking Dead"
or whatever.
609
00:42:51,793 --> 00:42:53,172
It all comes from Lon Chaney.
610
00:42:53,275 --> 00:42:54,862
He is the first
and the greatest.
611
00:42:54,965 --> 00:42:57,000
-So this will be
your personal statement
612
00:42:57,103 --> 00:42:59,655
of the most repulsive face
you can imagine?
613
00:42:59,758 --> 00:43:02,275
-Yes,
beyond gruesome and weird.
614
00:43:02,379 --> 00:43:04,310
And go a little bit further.
615
00:43:04,413 --> 00:43:06,172
And we'll be using
out-of-the-kit techniques
616
00:43:06,275 --> 00:43:07,517
totally for this.
617
00:43:07,620 --> 00:43:09,275
So there are no pre-built
prosthetics or anything.
618
00:43:09,379 --> 00:43:11,620
I've made some skin textures
and things to get weird,
619
00:43:11,724 --> 00:43:13,862
but we're gonna try
to keep it to the way
620
00:43:13,965 --> 00:43:16,310
that Lon Chaney would
have done it if he had silicone.
621
00:43:16,413 --> 00:43:19,206
-Okay, and guys,
we have a surprise for you.
622
00:43:19,310 --> 00:43:22,758
We have a live shot
of the crypt of Lon Chaney,
623
00:43:22,862 --> 00:43:24,551
which is
at the Forest Lawn Cemetery
624
00:43:24,655 --> 00:43:27,172
in Glendale, California,
but it's unmarked.
625
00:43:27,275 --> 00:43:28,689
You have to know where it is.
626
00:43:28,793 --> 00:43:31,068
So we had one of our associates,
Alex Poteet,
627
00:43:31,172 --> 00:43:33,758
go down to Forest Lawn today
and find it
628
00:43:33,862 --> 00:43:36,000
because Shane and Spencer,
629
00:43:36,103 --> 00:43:37,620
when we finally reveal
your makeup
630
00:43:37,724 --> 00:43:39,379
at the end of tonight's show,
631
00:43:39,482 --> 00:43:42,413
I'm gonna ask Lon Chaney
for a sign.
632
00:43:42,517 --> 00:43:44,000
We'll see if it works.
633
00:43:44,103 --> 00:43:45,275
I don't think anyone
has ever tried to séance
634
00:43:45,379 --> 00:43:46,827
that unmarked crypt,
635
00:43:46,931 --> 00:43:48,068
but we are trying
to do that tonight.
636
00:43:48,172 --> 00:43:51,275
Lon Chaney will be your judge,
Shane.
637
00:43:51,379 --> 00:43:52,517
How does that make you feel?
638
00:43:52,620 --> 00:43:55,206
-Well, you know,
it's a lot on my plate,
639
00:43:55,310 --> 00:43:57,517
but I've always said
Lon Chaney shall never die.
640
00:43:57,620 --> 00:43:59,965
So I feel like he's always
been watching over me anyway.
641
00:44:00,068 --> 00:44:01,620
So here we go.
642
00:44:01,724 --> 00:44:04,379
-So, Shane,
your mission is to turn Spencer
643
00:44:04,482 --> 00:44:06,344
into the ugliest creature alive.
644
00:44:06,448 --> 00:44:08,103
Did you sign a release, Spencer?
645
00:44:08,206 --> 00:44:11,724
-I signed an NDA, but I don't
think I got a release.
646
00:44:11,827 --> 00:44:14,137
-All right, men,
we will be checking with you
647
00:44:14,241 --> 00:44:15,965
as the night goes on.
648
00:44:16,068 --> 00:44:18,931
Good luck.
649
00:44:19,034 --> 00:44:20,758
Darcy, I want to incorporate
other Phantoms
650
00:44:20,862 --> 00:44:22,517
into our experience tonight.
-Okay.
651
00:44:22,620 --> 00:44:25,137
-So to start it off, I want --
652
00:44:25,241 --> 00:44:28,068
I want you to tell me what you
think about two of the Phantoms
653
00:44:28,172 --> 00:44:30,068
from "Phantom" history.
654
00:44:30,172 --> 00:44:34,000
The first one is from the
1955 "Phantom of the Operetta,"
655
00:44:34,103 --> 00:44:36,827
an Argentinian musical comedy.
656
00:44:36,931 --> 00:44:39,068
And were they even trying
with this?
657
00:44:39,172 --> 00:44:40,413
-No comment here.
658
00:44:40,517 --> 00:44:41,827
-All right.
Beneath contempt, right?
659
00:44:41,931 --> 00:44:43,758
Basically a Phantom with acne.
660
00:44:43,862 --> 00:44:46,034
Okay, but here's the
Hammer Films version,
661
00:44:46,137 --> 00:44:47,551
1962, with Herbert Lom.
662
00:44:47,655 --> 00:44:49,413
What do you think of this?
663
00:44:49,517 --> 00:44:51,379
-It's in the film for,
like, less than a minute.
664
00:44:51,482 --> 00:44:53,758
The death mask is what's
really iconic from that.
665
00:44:53,862 --> 00:44:55,758
-Well, they definitely gouged
some flesh for that.
666
00:44:55,862 --> 00:44:58,137
But what I don't like is
they invented a backstory
667
00:44:58,241 --> 00:45:00,586
for Herbert Lom whereby
he gets splashed with acid
668
00:45:00,689 --> 00:45:04,103
and abused by his partner, and
so they create fake sympathy.
669
00:45:04,206 --> 00:45:07,241
The whole idea is supposed
to be born ugly, no explanation.
670
00:45:07,344 --> 00:45:09,034
Do you like this one, though,
Darcy?
671
00:45:09,137 --> 00:45:12,172
-The Lon Phantom
is more victim than monster.
672
00:45:12,275 --> 00:45:14,413
The disfigurement is
not what's important.
673
00:45:14,517 --> 00:45:16,103
He is just an outsider.
674
00:45:16,206 --> 00:45:18,517
And his burn is
a physical symbol of that.
675
00:45:18,620 --> 00:45:21,517
-Agreed.
And I think that's enough
676
00:45:21,620 --> 00:45:23,310
"Phantom of the Opera"
from our team.
677
00:45:23,413 --> 00:45:26,931
So let's get back to
the sensation of 1925,
678
00:45:27,034 --> 00:45:29,275
"The Phantom of the Opera."
679
00:45:31,724 --> 00:45:33,310
Do you know what else
burns my bacon?
680
00:45:33,413 --> 00:45:35,344
-Tell me.
681
00:45:35,448 --> 00:45:37,379
-They tore down Stage 28...
682
00:45:37,482 --> 00:45:38,931
-Oh, girl.
-...in 2014.
683
00:45:39,034 --> 00:45:42,310
-I know, man. I was devastated.
Like, legit.
684
00:45:42,413 --> 00:45:45,379
-You know, it had already been
rebuilt and improved in 1966
685
00:45:45,482 --> 00:45:48,448
when Alfred Hitchcock made
"Torn Curtain."
686
00:45:48,551 --> 00:45:50,482
And then it had been used
for all kinds
687
00:45:50,586 --> 00:45:52,068
of other movies as well.
688
00:45:52,172 --> 00:45:54,034
But you know what's there now?
689
00:45:54,137 --> 00:45:56,931
-Super Nintendo World.
-Exactly!
690
00:45:57,034 --> 00:45:59,172
-I know, I'm so conflicted.
-Super fucking Nintendo World.
691
00:45:59,275 --> 00:46:01,482
They use it for meet-and-greets
with Toad.
692
00:46:01,586 --> 00:46:03,344
-But also Princess Peach!
693
00:46:03,448 --> 00:46:06,586
Oh, my God. Okay, for real.
694
00:46:06,689 --> 00:46:08,448
When I take the Mario Brothers
ride with my kid,
695
00:46:08,551 --> 00:46:10,241
we have a little ritual.
696
00:46:10,344 --> 00:46:11,586
-You shouldn't take
the Mario Brothers ride.
697
00:46:11,689 --> 00:46:13,482
-Exactly. I'm conflicted, man.
698
00:46:13,586 --> 00:46:17,310
So what we do is we say
a little prayer for Stage 28
699
00:46:17,413 --> 00:46:18,655
before we go,
and then it's okay.
700
00:46:18,758 --> 00:46:20,034
-And you cross yourselves?
-Yes.
701
00:46:20,137 --> 00:46:22,448
-Damn, Darcy, I'm --
-Forgive us.
702
00:46:22,551 --> 00:46:24,965
-I'm sorry you have to
experience that trauma, though.
703
00:46:25,068 --> 00:46:26,275
-Thank you.
704
00:46:26,379 --> 00:46:28,896
-Lon Chaney wept.
-I know.
705
00:58:53,448 --> 00:58:55,206
-And so the Phantom
entrances Christine --
706
00:58:55,310 --> 00:58:56,689
she's walking like a zombie --
707
00:58:56,793 --> 00:58:59,172
and takes her deep into
the dark underground caverns
708
00:58:59,275 --> 00:59:01,724
and the black lakes to his lair.
709
00:59:01,827 --> 00:59:04,310
And, of course,
we still haven't seen his face.
710
00:59:04,413 --> 00:59:06,862
The early audiences didn't know
that he was disfigured
711
00:59:06,965 --> 00:59:09,344
because the novel was
not that well known,
712
00:59:09,448 --> 00:59:11,586
which made the reveal scene
all the more powerful.
713
00:59:11,689 --> 00:59:13,482
But this would be a good place
714
00:59:13,586 --> 00:59:15,517
to talk about the actress
who played Christine.
715
00:59:15,620 --> 00:59:18,068
Mary Philbin was born
716
00:59:18,172 --> 00:59:20,620
in the tiny Irish village
of Cloonliffen,
717
00:59:20,724 --> 00:59:23,310
population 51...
-Wow.
718
00:59:23,413 --> 00:59:26,137
-...and 11 of those 51
were her family members.
719
00:59:26,241 --> 00:59:28,896
But her parents moved to Chicago
when she was three years old,
720
00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:32,000
and she discovered
the stage as a small girl.
721
00:59:32,103 --> 00:59:33,931
And she was not like any
of the other young starlets
722
00:59:34,034 --> 00:59:35,068
in Hollywood, though.
723
00:59:35,172 --> 00:59:36,793
She was extremely close
to her family.
724
00:59:36,896 --> 00:59:38,241
She was very religious.
725
00:59:38,344 --> 00:59:40,310
She was so close to her family
726
00:59:40,413 --> 00:59:41,517
that when she got cast
in her first film,
727
00:59:41,620 --> 00:59:44,724
"The Blazing Trail,"
at the age of 19,
728
00:59:44,827 --> 00:59:47,620
the whole family moved with her
to Los Angeles.
729
00:59:47,724 --> 00:59:50,034
The Philbins were friends
of the Laemmle family,
730
00:59:50,137 --> 00:59:52,896
owners of Universal,
so she moved up quickly.
731
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:55,448
She made six films
her first year.
732
00:59:55,551 --> 00:59:57,827
She got noticed
in an Erich von Stroheim movie
733
00:59:57,931 --> 00:59:59,862
called "Foolish Wives."
734
00:59:59,965 --> 01:00:02,758
It was the most expensive
Universal film up to that time.
735
01:00:02,862 --> 01:00:05,655
Her breakout role was
"The Merry-Go-Round" in 1923,
736
01:00:05,758 --> 01:00:08,793
the movie that was directed
by Erich von Stroheim
737
01:00:08,896 --> 01:00:10,551
until he was fired
738
01:00:10,655 --> 01:00:12,551
and Rupert Julian was
brought in to finish it.
739
01:00:12,655 --> 01:00:15,689
She played the peasant girl
working as an organ grinder
740
01:00:15,793 --> 01:00:17,379
in a Vienna amusement park,
741
01:00:17,482 --> 01:00:19,413
and a playboy count
falls in love with her,
742
01:00:19,517 --> 01:00:22,551
but is already engaged to the
daughter of the Minister of War,
743
01:00:22,655 --> 01:00:24,310
and because of court etiquette,
744
01:00:24,413 --> 01:00:26,379
he is forced to go ahead
with that marriage,
745
01:00:26,482 --> 01:00:28,034
and she thinks
she's been deserted.
746
01:00:28,137 --> 01:00:30,517
But then she reunites
with her lover
747
01:00:30,620 --> 01:00:33,413
after a series of
wartime melodramatic episodes,
748
01:00:33,517 --> 01:00:36,241
and he renounces his title
in order to be with her.
749
01:00:36,344 --> 01:00:39,172
So the count was played
by Norman Kerry,
750
01:00:39,275 --> 01:00:41,551
the actor who again plays
a count, Raoul,
751
01:00:41,655 --> 01:00:43,103
in "Phantom of the Opera."
752
01:00:43,206 --> 01:00:46,827
Um, Raoul is one of the most
boring characters ever invented.
753
01:00:46,931 --> 01:00:49,862
I mean, he doesn't do much
except wait around for Christine
754
01:00:49,965 --> 01:00:51,862
and deal with
her fickle choices.
755
01:00:51,965 --> 01:00:54,172
But Kerry does as well
as he can with it.
756
01:00:54,275 --> 01:00:57,310
Kerry was a high school football
star growing up on Long Island
757
01:00:57,413 --> 01:00:59,965
and became good friends
with Rudolph Valentino,
758
01:01:00,068 --> 01:01:02,724
while Valentino was
still a taxi dancer in New York
759
01:01:02,827 --> 01:01:04,586
long before he discovered
Hollywood.
760
01:01:04,689 --> 01:01:06,793
And Kerry had also been
the romantic lead
761
01:01:06,896 --> 01:01:08,724
in "The Hunchback
of Notre Dame."
762
01:01:08,827 --> 01:01:11,724
So Norman Kerry and
Mary Philbin knew each other,
763
01:01:11,827 --> 01:01:13,758
got along very well together,
764
01:01:13,862 --> 01:01:16,068
but she never really got along
with Julian, the director.
765
01:01:16,172 --> 01:01:18,275
He didn't like her performances.
766
01:01:18,379 --> 01:01:21,620
He would do endless retakes
to the point that Van Enger,
767
01:01:21,724 --> 01:01:23,379
the cinematographer,
told Julian
768
01:01:23,482 --> 01:01:24,862
he was ruining
her ability to act
769
01:01:24,965 --> 01:01:27,344
by nickel-and-diming every scene
that she did.
770
01:01:27,448 --> 01:01:30,758
And the crew grew very restless
with how slowly Julian worked
771
01:01:30,862 --> 01:01:32,448
and how picky he was.
772
01:01:32,551 --> 01:01:34,551
Plus, he wasn't very nice
to actors,
773
01:01:34,655 --> 01:01:37,448
and Norman Kerry grew
so exasperated at one point
774
01:01:37,551 --> 01:01:41,000
that he turned his horse
on Julian and ran him down.
775
01:01:41,103 --> 01:01:44,275
Anyway, Mary Philbin always got
the man at the end of the movie,
776
01:01:44,379 --> 01:01:47,103
but she did not get the man
in life.
777
01:01:47,206 --> 01:01:49,896
Uh, Universal Pictures
in the early 1920s
778
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:51,931
was a very young company.
779
01:01:52,034 --> 01:01:53,965
Carl Laemmle was in his 50s,
780
01:01:54,068 --> 01:01:56,862
but he had a knack
for hiring talented young men,
781
01:01:56,965 --> 01:01:58,724
some of them
right out of high school.
782
01:01:58,827 --> 01:02:01,068
His most famous hire was
Irving Thalberg,
783
01:02:01,172 --> 01:02:04,000
who started out as a secretary
in the New York office
784
01:02:04,103 --> 01:02:07,965
and was named head of the studio
at the age of 20.
785
01:02:08,068 --> 01:02:10,206
But another guy rising
quickly through the ranks
786
01:02:10,310 --> 01:02:12,068
was Paul Kohner,
787
01:02:12,172 --> 01:02:14,896
an Austrian who interviewed
Laemmle for his father's
788
01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:17,758
newspaper while Laemmle
was visiting the famous spa
789
01:02:17,862 --> 01:02:21,241
at Karlovy Vary,
and Laemmle was impressed by him
790
01:02:21,344 --> 01:02:23,482
and talked him into moving
to America
791
01:02:23,586 --> 01:02:25,206
and started him out
as an errand boy,
792
01:02:25,310 --> 01:02:27,827
and he moved up through various
film-production jobs,
793
01:02:27,931 --> 01:02:30,413
eventually became one of
the most powerful producers
794
01:02:30,517 --> 01:02:31,931
and agents in Hollywood.
795
01:02:32,034 --> 01:02:36,965
Represented Mar-- um,
Marlene Dietrich, Greta Garbo,
796
01:02:37,068 --> 01:02:41,172
John Huston, Billy Wilder,
Ingrid Bergman,
797
01:02:41,275 --> 01:02:43,931
Maurice Chevalier, Lana Turner,
and many other stars.
798
01:02:44,034 --> 01:02:46,931
But in 1923, when he was a unit
production supervisor,
799
01:02:47,034 --> 01:02:50,103
still working his way up, he
fell in love with Mary Philbin,
800
01:02:50,206 --> 01:02:51,827
and she fell in love with him.
801
01:02:51,931 --> 01:02:53,586
And they were inseparable
for four years.
802
01:02:53,689 --> 01:02:55,620
But when they announced
their engagement,
803
01:02:55,724 --> 01:03:00,137
Mary's parents strenuously
objected because he was Jewish
804
01:03:00,241 --> 01:03:01,931
and they were strict Catholics.
805
01:03:02,034 --> 01:03:03,862
So after much agonizing,
806
01:03:03,965 --> 01:03:06,551
Mary Philbin was faced with
either marrying Kohner
807
01:03:06,655 --> 01:03:08,793
and being shunned
by her family forever,
808
01:03:08,896 --> 01:03:12,137
or staying close to her family
and losing Kohner.
809
01:03:12,241 --> 01:03:15,137
So she told Kohner
she couldn't marry him,
810
01:03:15,241 --> 01:03:16,896
and he was devastated.
811
01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:19,724
But seven years later,
he married Lupita Tovar,
812
01:03:19,827 --> 01:03:22,068
who starred in many movies
on both sides of the border,
813
01:03:22,172 --> 01:03:24,448
known especially
for starring in Universal's
814
01:03:24,551 --> 01:03:27,068
Spanish version of "Dracula."
815
01:03:27,172 --> 01:03:29,586
And they were married
for 56 years
816
01:03:29,689 --> 01:03:33,172
until Kohner's death in 1988.
But here's the sad part.
817
01:03:33,275 --> 01:03:37,137
When they were cleaning out
Kohner's desk in 1988 --
818
01:03:37,241 --> 01:03:39,965
his agency was in a famous
building on the Sunset Strip --
819
01:03:40,068 --> 01:03:42,620
they found dozens of
love letters from Mary Philbin.
820
01:03:42,724 --> 01:03:45,379
He had saved
every last one of them.
821
01:03:45,482 --> 01:03:46,827
Probably saved him at his office
822
01:03:46,931 --> 01:03:48,689
so that Lupita
wouldn't know about them.
823
01:03:48,793 --> 01:03:52,172
And Mary Philbin had saved
his letters as well,
824
01:03:52,275 --> 01:03:54,103
and they were with her
when she died
825
01:03:54,206 --> 01:03:56,068
five years later
at the age of 91.
826
01:03:56,172 --> 01:03:58,931
She died in the Huntington Beach
house that her family had bought
827
01:03:59,034 --> 01:04:01,724
when they first moved
to Los Angeles in 1921.
828
01:04:01,827 --> 01:04:05,137
She had lived there as a
virtual recluse for the 65 years
829
01:04:05,241 --> 01:04:08,103
after her career ended in 1929,
830
01:04:08,206 --> 01:04:11,965
and she was never able to make
the transition to sound films.
831
01:04:12,068 --> 01:04:15,379
Okay, no more sad stories.
832
01:04:15,482 --> 01:04:18,586
Shane, how you doing back there?
833
01:04:18,689 --> 01:04:21,068
-Doing great.
This is kind of the boring part.
834
01:04:21,172 --> 01:04:24,241
We're just getting started and
we're putting the bald cap down.
835
01:04:24,344 --> 01:04:27,862
-Okay. Just remember,
we want the ugliest human being
836
01:04:27,965 --> 01:04:30,241
that's ever been imagined
by the mind of H.P. Lovecraft.
837
01:04:30,344 --> 01:04:32,655
-Well, we are gonna get in here
838
01:04:32,758 --> 01:04:36,413
after I do these basic kind of
Cheney Phantom moves.
839
01:04:36,517 --> 01:04:38,241
Then I'm gonna get in
840
01:04:38,344 --> 01:04:42,862
and start applying
Lovecraftian shapes because,
841
01:04:42,965 --> 01:04:46,931
as we know, the Phantom
wasn't just born ugly.
842
01:04:47,034 --> 01:04:49,896
He's been mutated
by his use of the black arts.
843
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:51,103
So he's a little weird.
844
01:04:51,206 --> 01:04:52,517
We're gonna go
a little weirder
845
01:04:52,620 --> 01:04:55,344
than maybe people are expecting.
846
01:04:55,448 --> 01:04:58,862
-Okay. We love to hear that.
How are you holding up, Spencer?
847
01:04:58,965 --> 01:05:01,241
-It reminds me of, uh,
swim camp,
848
01:05:01,344 --> 01:05:04,275
you know, with the, uh --
the swim cap.
849
01:05:04,379 --> 01:05:06,310
Uh, other than that,
it's pretty good.
850
01:05:06,413 --> 01:05:08,517
Just like a huge condom
on my head.
851
01:05:08,620 --> 01:05:11,413
-Do you think this is gonna
be annoying or exciting?
852
01:05:11,517 --> 01:05:12,827
-I think somewhere
right in the middle.
853
01:05:12,931 --> 01:05:15,758
But I'm excited to be annoyed.
854
01:05:15,862 --> 01:05:18,482
-All right, guys, carry on.
855
01:05:18,586 --> 01:05:20,931
-Why did you say
H.P. Lovecraft?
856
01:05:21,034 --> 01:05:24,586
-Doesn't he kind of
specialize in ugly monsters?
857
01:05:24,689 --> 01:05:26,172
-Mm, I wouldn't say so, no.
858
01:05:26,275 --> 01:05:28,689
-Who would you nominate?
859
01:05:28,793 --> 01:05:30,344
-Nobody, really, honestly.
860
01:05:30,448 --> 01:05:32,448
-Jack Davis? Basil Gogos?
-No.
861
01:05:32,551 --> 01:05:34,344
'Cause when I look at
those monster drawings,
862
01:05:34,448 --> 01:05:36,034
I just think they're beautiful.
863
01:05:36,137 --> 01:05:37,758
-Remember
that "Twilight Zone" episode
864
01:05:37,862 --> 01:05:39,517
where a woman's face
is covered in bandages
865
01:05:39,620 --> 01:05:41,655
'cause she's had her
11th plastic surgery
866
01:05:41,758 --> 01:05:43,448
and she's trying to be normal,
867
01:05:43,551 --> 01:05:44,896
or else the government
will banish her forever?
868
01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:46,551
-Oh, yeah. That's a good one.
869
01:05:46,655 --> 01:05:48,551
-And then they remove
the bandages,
870
01:05:48,655 --> 01:05:50,413
and it's Elly May Clampett
from "The Beverly Hillbillies."
871
01:05:50,517 --> 01:05:51,758
-Donna Douglas! Yeah.
872
01:05:51,862 --> 01:05:53,172
-Yeah. Donna Douglas.
873
01:05:53,275 --> 01:05:54,793
And the doctor says, "I'm sorry,
874
01:05:54,896 --> 01:05:56,551
but the surgery has failed
again.
875
01:05:56,655 --> 01:05:59,068
You cannot remain in society
any longer."
876
01:05:59,172 --> 01:06:01,103
And then the camera
turns around,
877
01:06:01,206 --> 01:06:03,586
and we see this is a society
of people with pig snouts
878
01:06:03,689 --> 01:06:05,965
and sunken eyes
and swollen lips.
879
01:06:06,068 --> 01:06:07,862
-Standards of beauty.
880
01:06:07,965 --> 01:06:09,172
-That's kind of
what we're doing here, right?
881
01:06:09,275 --> 01:06:10,758
We're showing
how everyone's idea of beauty
882
01:06:10,862 --> 01:06:13,724
is based on whatever
you're used to.
883
01:06:13,827 --> 01:06:17,000
-Correct.
-Okay, back to the movie.
884
01:06:20,310 --> 01:06:22,689
You think it'd be possible today
for a Paul Kohner
885
01:06:22,793 --> 01:06:24,517
or an Irving Thalberg
886
01:06:24,620 --> 01:06:26,413
to be working
as an errand boy in Hollywood,
887
01:06:26,517 --> 01:06:28,620
and the studio boss just says,
"You know what, kid?
888
01:06:28,724 --> 01:06:30,172
I like the way you think.
889
01:06:30,275 --> 01:06:31,275
You want to be head
of production?"
890
01:06:31,379 --> 01:06:33,586
-Never. Never.
891
01:06:33,689 --> 01:06:35,413
-Maybe not head of production
like Thalberg,
892
01:06:35,517 --> 01:06:37,172
but, "Hey, you're smart.
893
01:06:37,275 --> 01:06:38,931
We're gonna let you produce
a feature."
894
01:06:39,034 --> 01:06:41,206
-That would not happen. No.
895
01:06:41,310 --> 01:06:43,379
-Why not?
People hate teenagers now?
896
01:06:43,482 --> 01:06:45,482
I don't know, honestly.
897
01:06:45,586 --> 01:06:48,103
-I got hired as a sportswriter
when I was 13,
898
01:06:48,206 --> 01:06:50,137
and that was a tremendous boost
of confidence.
899
01:06:50,241 --> 01:06:53,034
I mean, I wanted to work as hard
as possible to prove myself.
900
01:06:53,137 --> 01:06:55,586
I would think that's as good
a reason as any to have teens.
901
01:06:55,689 --> 01:06:57,275
I mean,
they have unlimited energy.
902
01:06:57,379 --> 01:06:59,413
They overperform.
You pay them very little
903
01:06:59,517 --> 01:07:01,482
and you get huge benefits.
904
01:07:01,586 --> 01:07:03,379
-Nobody's doing that.
905
01:07:03,482 --> 01:07:05,137
-Unless you play baseball.
906
01:07:05,241 --> 01:07:06,793
-Unless you play baseball.
907
01:07:06,896 --> 01:07:08,586
-Although Juan Soto --
he didn't make his first
908
01:07:08,689 --> 01:07:10,586
$800 million until he was 26.
909
01:18:33,241 --> 01:18:34,724
-Is it just me,
or does Christine
910
01:18:34,827 --> 01:18:38,586
constantly contradict herself?
911
01:18:38,689 --> 01:18:43,172
"Let me go and
I'll be your slave forever."
912
01:18:43,275 --> 01:18:44,793
Isn't it one or the other?
913
01:18:44,896 --> 01:18:47,758
Either let me go
or I'll be your slave?
914
01:18:47,862 --> 01:18:50,000
But that reveal --
that is so good.
915
01:18:50,103 --> 01:18:51,448
And if you ever get
the chance to watch it
916
01:18:51,551 --> 01:18:53,241
with a concert-level organist --
917
01:18:53,344 --> 01:18:55,241
who was that guy we saw in LA
on Halloween?
918
01:18:55,344 --> 01:18:57,517
-Oh, Clark Wilson.
-Clark Wilson.
919
01:18:57,620 --> 01:19:00,068
He is one of the last
practitioners
920
01:19:00,172 --> 01:19:03,241
of what they call theater organ
music in the world,
921
01:19:03,344 --> 01:19:05,448
and he performs
his own soundtrack for "Phantom"
922
01:19:05,551 --> 01:19:07,034
on one of those giant organs
923
01:19:07,137 --> 01:19:09,034
with the umpteen-jillion
pedals and keys.
924
01:19:09,137 --> 01:19:11,551
And he uses a lot from Faust,
of course,
925
01:19:11,655 --> 01:19:15,448
because that's the opera where
Christine replaces Carlotta.
926
01:19:15,551 --> 01:19:17,655
But anyway, that moment
where the --
927
01:19:17,758 --> 01:19:20,689
where she rips off the mask,
the deep bass organ chord
928
01:19:20,793 --> 01:19:22,965
that he does
makes you jump out of your seat.
929
01:19:23,068 --> 01:19:24,689
And as I mentioned before,
930
01:19:24,793 --> 01:19:26,724
Lon Chaney directed
that scene himself
931
01:19:26,827 --> 01:19:29,758
so he could get a terrified
reaction out of Mary Philbin.
932
01:19:29,862 --> 01:19:34,034
All right, we can't really spend
three hours on every break.
933
01:19:34,137 --> 01:19:35,344
-We could.
-There's so much to talk about
934
01:19:35,448 --> 01:19:37,758
with "Phantom."
And at the last break,
935
01:19:37,862 --> 01:19:40,172
I forgot to continue
our review of "Phantom" makeup.
936
01:19:40,275 --> 01:19:42,068
So here we go.
937
01:19:42,172 --> 01:19:46,275
Here's the 1937 Chinese Phantom
from "Song of Midnight."
938
01:19:46,379 --> 01:19:47,827
Darcy?
-It's not bad.
939
01:19:47,931 --> 01:19:50,137
They were trying.
I appreciate that.
940
01:19:50,241 --> 01:19:53,275
-Um, here's Vincent Price
in "The Abominable Dr. Phibes,"
941
01:19:53,379 --> 01:19:55,965
which has a slight resemblance
to the "Phantom" plot.
942
01:19:56,068 --> 01:19:58,482
-I love Vincent Price,
and I love this movie,
943
01:19:58,586 --> 01:20:00,965
but the story here
is not really about his face.
944
01:20:01,068 --> 01:20:04,275
-True. Here's William Finley
in "Phantom of the Paradise."
945
01:20:04,379 --> 01:20:06,862
-Yes!
Love "Phantom of the Paradise."
946
01:20:06,965 --> 01:20:10,482
That is probably my favorite
adaptation after the original.
947
01:20:10,586 --> 01:20:12,103
-I like what they did with
the eyeball,
948
01:20:12,206 --> 01:20:14,103
but they're doing that
half-face thing.
949
01:20:14,206 --> 01:20:16,137
The half-face ugly
is not the novel.
950
01:20:16,241 --> 01:20:19,344
The novel says
the whole face is ugly.
951
01:20:19,448 --> 01:20:21,068
They're trying to get away
with a cool mask.
952
01:20:21,172 --> 01:20:24,103
Okay, here's a good one.
"Phantom of the Ritz."
953
01:20:24,206 --> 01:20:26,896
I don't remember who
this actor is. Um...
954
01:20:27,000 --> 01:20:28,379
-Joshua Sussman.
955
01:20:28,482 --> 01:20:30,275
-Joshua Sussman.
Very good, Darcy.
956
01:20:30,379 --> 01:20:32,379
They went for
the slime-glopola face.
957
01:20:32,482 --> 01:20:35,413
What do you think?
-It's one of the better ones.
958
01:20:35,517 --> 01:20:38,068
-Shane, are we using any slime?
Is Shane there?
959
01:20:38,172 --> 01:20:40,965
-I'm here.
-Are we using any slime on this?
960
01:20:41,068 --> 01:20:43,827
-Oh, we're gonna have slime.
-Glopola.
961
01:20:43,931 --> 01:20:46,103
-We're slimy.
-What's your slime quotient?
962
01:20:46,206 --> 01:20:48,103
Is there a lot of slime on this?
963
01:20:48,206 --> 01:20:50,793
-We'll just have enough
to give it that glisteningly,
964
01:20:50,896 --> 01:20:53,000
zit-popping, um...
965
01:20:53,103 --> 01:20:55,448
smegma-dripping-out-
of-the-mouth sort of stuff.
966
01:20:55,551 --> 01:20:57,137
-When stuff is coming out of
the mouth or nose,
967
01:20:57,241 --> 01:20:59,000
that is always gross,
I love that.
968
01:20:59,103 --> 01:21:01,448
-Yeah,
-Yeah, we gotta have some snot.
969
01:21:01,551 --> 01:21:04,275
-How are you with snot
and slime, Spencer?
970
01:21:04,379 --> 01:21:06,862
-Love snot and slime.
971
01:21:06,965 --> 01:21:09,344
Uh, I remember that Nickelodeon
show where they would always...
972
01:21:09,448 --> 01:21:10,655
-Oh, yeah.
-...get slimed, right?
973
01:21:10,758 --> 01:21:11,827
-Yeah.
974
01:21:11,931 --> 01:21:13,758
-But they never got snotted,
so...
975
01:21:13,862 --> 01:21:15,758
-Well, you never know
what was in that slime.
976
01:21:15,862 --> 01:21:18,172
-Yeah, yeah. And I have
seasonal allergies,
977
01:21:18,275 --> 01:21:21,379
so there should be
some natural snot as well.
978
01:21:21,482 --> 01:21:22,758
-Well, we'll use that.
979
01:21:22,862 --> 01:21:24,827
-Right.
-Okay, man.
980
01:21:24,931 --> 01:21:27,517
Well, we're counting on you to
make us scream when we see this.
981
01:21:27,620 --> 01:21:30,620
-Oh, that's gonna happen.
982
01:21:30,724 --> 01:21:33,034
See that? It already got
a Chaney nose going on.
983
01:21:33,137 --> 01:21:35,413
Look at that.
984
01:21:35,517 --> 01:21:37,931
-People actually did scream
and faint in the theaters
985
01:21:38,034 --> 01:21:40,689
when the Phantom's face
was revealed in 1925.
986
01:21:40,793 --> 01:21:42,551
Some people believe the reason
987
01:21:42,655 --> 01:21:44,689
Lon Chaney was such
a great silent-film actor
988
01:21:44,793 --> 01:21:48,310
is that his parents were deaf,
and when your parents are deaf,
989
01:21:48,413 --> 01:21:50,379
especially in
the 1880s and 1890s,
990
01:21:50,482 --> 01:21:53,344
when formal sign language was --
for a while,
991
01:21:53,448 --> 01:21:57,034
was banned in some
of the deaf schools,
992
01:21:57,137 --> 01:21:59,206
you become a master
of pantomime.
993
01:21:59,310 --> 01:22:02,275
And actually, his formal
education ended at age nine
994
01:22:02,379 --> 01:22:04,689
when he left school
to care for his sick mother.
995
01:22:04,793 --> 01:22:07,000
But as soon as he was old
enough to work in vaudeville,
996
01:22:07,103 --> 01:22:09,862
which would have been
around age 15 or 16,
997
01:22:09,965 --> 01:22:11,896
he hit the vaudeville circuit.
998
01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:15,310
And he was a great singer,
great dancer, great comedian.
999
01:22:15,413 --> 01:22:17,827
Supposedly he had
a wonderful stage presence,
1000
01:22:17,931 --> 01:22:20,241
and he toured with
various vaudeville companies
1001
01:22:20,344 --> 01:22:23,310
for several years, and then,
like many talented actors,
1002
01:22:23,413 --> 01:22:26,862
he managed his own theater,
The Majestic, in downtown LA.
1003
01:22:26,965 --> 01:22:29,172
-Aw.
-Unfortunately, in 1913,
1004
01:22:29,275 --> 01:22:31,310
his wife went to the theater
one night
1005
01:22:31,413 --> 01:22:34,413
and attempted to kill herself
by swallowing mercury.
1006
01:22:34,517 --> 01:22:37,517
So this suicide attempt failed,
1007
01:22:37,620 --> 01:22:40,448
but the resulting scandal
ended his theater career
1008
01:22:40,551 --> 01:22:42,344
and forced him into movies.
1009
01:22:42,448 --> 01:22:44,068
Now, I'm not sure why
your wife trying to kill herself
1010
01:22:44,172 --> 01:22:45,482
would affect your
career prospects,
1011
01:22:45,586 --> 01:22:46,724
but apparently it did.
1012
01:22:46,827 --> 01:22:48,551
And at the time,
1013
01:22:48,655 --> 01:22:49,931
you could make a great deal
more money on the stage
1014
01:22:50,034 --> 01:22:51,655
than you could on screen.
1015
01:22:51,758 --> 01:22:53,827
Plus, the stage had
much more prestige,
1016
01:22:53,931 --> 01:22:57,620
so it was a comedown when he
started taking bit movie parts.
1017
01:22:57,724 --> 01:22:59,275
And because of his
makeup skills,
1018
01:22:59,379 --> 01:23:01,206
he had a lot of character parts.
1019
01:23:01,310 --> 01:23:03,034
So for the next
six or seven years,
1020
01:23:03,137 --> 01:23:04,758
he built a reputation
in Hollywood
1021
01:23:04,862 --> 01:23:06,758
as a versatile character actor,
1022
01:23:06,862 --> 01:23:08,896
but nothing more than that,
really.
1023
01:23:09,000 --> 01:23:11,172
And then he made a movie
called "The Miracle Man,"
1024
01:23:11,275 --> 01:23:13,689
where he played
a contortionist con man,
1025
01:23:13,793 --> 01:23:15,724
and he got brilliant reviews
for that.
1026
01:23:15,827 --> 01:23:19,275
And that led to a tour de force
performance in "The Penalty,"
1027
01:23:19,379 --> 01:23:20,827
where he played a crime boss
1028
01:23:20,931 --> 01:23:22,827
whose legs had been amputated
at the knee,
1029
01:23:22,931 --> 01:23:26,103
and the devices he wore for that
were so complicated and painful
1030
01:23:26,206 --> 01:23:28,275
that he could only work
10 minutes at a time.
1031
01:23:28,379 --> 01:23:30,275
But it was a breakthrough role
for him.
1032
01:23:30,379 --> 01:23:31,655
And then came
1033
01:23:31,758 --> 01:23:34,172
"The Hunchback of Notre Dame"
playing Quasimodo,
1034
01:23:34,275 --> 01:23:36,827
making him a star
in the company owned by the man
1035
01:23:36,931 --> 01:23:39,965
who invented the star system,
Carl Laemmle.
1036
01:23:40,068 --> 01:23:43,103
Um, he actually made 157 movies,
1037
01:23:43,206 --> 01:23:46,137
but 102 of those movies
are lost.
1038
01:23:46,241 --> 01:23:49,586
But his reputation
as The Man with a Thousand Faces
1039
01:23:49,689 --> 01:23:52,172
fascinated the public
all through the 1920s
1040
01:23:52,275 --> 01:23:53,896
and into the sound era,
1041
01:23:54,000 --> 01:23:56,000
and he even transferred
easily into talkies
1042
01:23:56,103 --> 01:23:58,068
due to his vast theater
experience.
1043
01:23:58,172 --> 01:24:00,724
But he would only make
one sound movie,
1044
01:24:00,827 --> 01:24:05,000
a remake of Tod Browning's
"The Unholy Three," in 1930.
1045
01:24:05,103 --> 01:24:08,344
He actually did five
of the voices in that movie,
1046
01:24:08,448 --> 01:24:11,137
but he died one month
after the film's release
1047
01:24:11,241 --> 01:24:14,344
of lung cancer
at the age of 47.
1048
01:24:14,448 --> 01:24:16,586
Um, the funeral of Lon Chaney
1049
01:24:16,689 --> 01:24:18,448
was like a who's who
of Hollywood.
1050
01:24:18,551 --> 01:24:20,827
The pallbearers were
Lionel Barrymore,
1051
01:24:20,931 --> 01:24:24,310
Louis B. Mayer, Tod Browning,
several other stars,
1052
01:24:24,413 --> 01:24:27,000
and the Marine Corps
provided an honor guard.
1053
01:24:27,103 --> 01:24:31,000
If you go to his grave
at Forest Lawn, it's unmarked.
1054
01:24:31,103 --> 01:24:32,931
It's a crypt.
1055
01:24:33,034 --> 01:24:35,413
Um, according to his express
wishes, it's unmarked.
1056
01:24:35,517 --> 01:24:37,551
But, of course,
he was memorialized in the movie
1057
01:24:37,655 --> 01:24:40,862
"Man of a Thousand Faces,"
starring James Cagney as Chaney,
1058
01:24:40,965 --> 01:24:42,862
the movie
that inspired Tom Savini
1059
01:24:42,965 --> 01:24:44,655
to become a makeup artist.
1060
01:24:44,758 --> 01:24:47,448
Um, all of his artifacts,
as we noted earlier,
1061
01:24:47,551 --> 01:24:49,793
went to the Los Angeles
Natural History Museum,
1062
01:24:49,896 --> 01:24:54,000
including a cast of his head
and his collection of wigs.
1063
01:24:54,103 --> 01:24:56,034
He had more wigs than you,
Darcy.
1064
01:24:56,137 --> 01:24:57,275
He had 100 wigs.
1065
01:24:57,379 --> 01:24:59,206
-Oh, no, he did not.
1066
01:24:59,310 --> 01:25:00,862
-He didn't have 100 wigs?
1067
01:25:00,965 --> 01:25:02,103
-I'm sure he did,
1068
01:25:02,206 --> 01:25:03,517
but he didn't have more
than I do.
1069
01:25:03,620 --> 01:25:05,241
-You have more than 100 wigs?
1070
01:25:05,344 --> 01:25:07,000
-Oh, yeah.
-All right.
1071
01:25:07,103 --> 01:25:09,034
Well, you are the queen
of cosplay.
1072
01:25:09,137 --> 01:25:13,413
So let's go back to the movie
and watch the master work.
1073
01:25:13,517 --> 01:25:14,896
I'm impressed, Darcy.
1074
01:25:15,000 --> 01:25:16,310
-Wigs are important.
1075
01:25:16,413 --> 01:25:19,137
-Obviously.
You know who loved Lon Chaney?
1076
01:25:19,241 --> 01:25:21,068
-Who?
-Forrest Ackerman,
1077
01:25:21,172 --> 01:25:23,379
the editor of "Famous Monsters
of Filmland" magazine.
1078
01:25:23,482 --> 01:25:27,000
Every issue of "Famous Monsters"
had a page called
1079
01:25:27,103 --> 01:25:29,310
"Lon Chaney Shall Not Die"...
-Aw.
1080
01:25:29,413 --> 01:25:31,034
-...devoted to his life
and career.
1081
01:25:31,137 --> 01:25:34,103
So at least until 1983,
1082
01:25:34,206 --> 01:25:36,551
when Forrey stepped away
from the magazine,
1083
01:25:36,655 --> 01:25:40,137
Lon Chaney was never
out of the public eye.
1084
01:25:40,241 --> 01:25:43,758
-How old would he be now
if he was alive?
1085
01:25:43,862 --> 01:25:47,689
-Lon Chaney would be...141.
1086
01:25:47,793 --> 01:25:49,655
-I bet he would
still look awesome.
1087
01:25:49,758 --> 01:25:52,793
-He would be doing makeup,
make himself look 18, right?
1088
01:25:52,896 --> 01:25:55,241
Right.
1089
01:33:56,137 --> 01:33:57,517
-So this is the part
of the movie when
1090
01:33:57,620 --> 01:33:59,448
Charles Van Enger,
the cinematographer,
1091
01:33:59,551 --> 01:34:00,827
really gets to show off.
1092
01:34:00,931 --> 01:34:02,551
At the time this film came out,
1093
01:34:02,655 --> 01:34:04,586
there were three
color processes competing
1094
01:34:04,689 --> 01:34:06,344
for Hollywood's attention.
1095
01:34:06,448 --> 01:34:08,689
And "Phantom of the Opera"
uses all three of them.
1096
01:34:08,793 --> 01:34:11,827
The Prizma system,
which was invented in 1913,
1097
01:34:11,931 --> 01:34:13,862
was used for the color shots
in the introduction,
1098
01:34:13,965 --> 01:34:16,103
what's called
the Soldier's Night sequence,
1099
01:34:16,206 --> 01:34:18,103
going over the history
of the opera house.
1100
01:34:18,206 --> 01:34:22,068
The Handschiegl process,
invented in 1916,
1101
01:34:22,172 --> 01:34:24,000
was used to color
the Phantom's cape
1102
01:34:24,103 --> 01:34:26,068
when he's up there on the roof,
spying on the lovers.
1103
01:34:26,172 --> 01:34:29,034
And Technicolor,
also introduced in 1916,
1104
01:34:29,137 --> 01:34:31,137
was used for the masked ball.
1105
01:34:31,241 --> 01:34:33,206
So many memorable images --
1106
01:34:33,310 --> 01:34:35,275
I mean, the Phantom sweeping
down the staircase
1107
01:34:35,379 --> 01:34:36,931
in his Red Death costume,
1108
01:34:37,034 --> 01:34:39,137
the Phantom perched
on the roof angel,
1109
01:34:39,241 --> 01:34:41,000
the hundreds of extras
partying.
1110
01:34:41,103 --> 01:34:43,931
These were grand scenes
considered revolutionary
1111
01:34:44,034 --> 01:34:45,448
at the time of the premiere,
1112
01:34:45,551 --> 01:34:47,172
even though we're
not sure exactly what
1113
01:34:47,275 --> 01:34:50,034
the Astor Theatre
premiere audience saw.
1114
01:34:50,137 --> 01:34:53,034
Our best guess here
at Shudder is that the print
1115
01:34:53,137 --> 01:34:54,793
we're watching tonight
1116
01:34:54,896 --> 01:34:57,413
is a combination
of the 1925 theatrical release,
1117
01:34:57,517 --> 01:35:00,034
which had 17 minutes of color
in it,
1118
01:35:00,137 --> 01:35:04,241
and the 1929 re-release
with some sound added.
1119
01:35:04,344 --> 01:35:06,241
But nobody knows for sure.
1120
01:35:06,344 --> 01:35:09,620
Um, beca-- after six months
of pre-production,
1121
01:35:09,724 --> 01:35:13,137
11 months of actual shooting,
9 months of post-production,
1122
01:35:13,241 --> 01:35:15,241
if you include the re-shoots
and the re-edits,
1123
01:35:15,344 --> 01:35:17,793
Universal didn't bother
to preserve any prints
1124
01:35:17,896 --> 01:35:19,758
from the original run
of the movie.
1125
01:35:19,862 --> 01:35:22,793
So around 1950,
Eastman Kodak in Rochester
1126
01:35:22,896 --> 01:35:24,551
goes to Universal and says,
1127
01:35:24,655 --> 01:35:26,724
"We've noticed that
the nitrate negative is starting
1128
01:35:26,827 --> 01:35:28,068
to disintegrate.
1129
01:35:28,172 --> 01:35:29,344
You should really do something
about it."
1130
01:35:29,448 --> 01:35:30,724
And they told Universal
1131
01:35:30,827 --> 01:35:32,586
that they wanted to help
them save it.
1132
01:35:32,689 --> 01:35:34,793
But Universal had
virtually nothing in storage.
1133
01:35:34,896 --> 01:35:37,172
Most of the prints
of the movie that exist today
1134
01:35:37,275 --> 01:35:39,310
are compilations
that have been cobbled together
1135
01:35:39,413 --> 01:35:41,172
from various outside sources.
1136
01:35:41,275 --> 01:35:43,344
I counted 12 different versions,
1137
01:35:43,448 --> 01:35:46,689
including the George Eastman
house print from 1950
1138
01:35:46,793 --> 01:35:49,206
and the most recent
Kino Lorber Blu-ray.
1139
01:35:49,310 --> 01:35:51,241
But the most valuable print is
probably what's known
1140
01:35:51,344 --> 01:35:56,103
as the John Hampton Show-at-Home
Duplications Compilation Print.
1141
01:35:56,206 --> 01:35:57,758
John Hampton was
the original owner
1142
01:35:57,862 --> 01:36:00,344
of the Silent Movie Theater
in LA, your favorite place.
1143
01:36:00,448 --> 01:36:02,310
-Yes, he was great.
-Okay.
1144
01:36:02,413 --> 01:36:05,000
And so John Hampton
found a stash
1145
01:36:05,103 --> 01:36:07,241
of 16-millimeter versions
of "Phantom"
1146
01:36:07,344 --> 01:36:09,448
that had been made available
to libraries and schools
1147
01:36:09,551 --> 01:36:11,172
and collectors,
1148
01:36:11,275 --> 01:36:12,793
and he combed through those
for the best images
1149
01:36:12,896 --> 01:36:14,724
and the most complete
assemblies.
1150
01:36:14,827 --> 01:36:16,379
It says something
about the passion
1151
01:36:16,482 --> 01:36:18,103
people had for this project
1152
01:36:18,206 --> 01:36:21,448
that it has survived re-writes,
re-edits,
1153
01:36:21,551 --> 01:36:23,103
new made-up endings,
1154
01:36:23,206 --> 01:36:25,275
and actual physical
deterioration,
1155
01:36:25,379 --> 01:36:29,206
but it still holds up
as a compelling work of art.
1156
01:36:29,310 --> 01:36:31,206
One thing I wanted to mention,
1157
01:36:31,310 --> 01:36:33,758
as evidence of how carefully
the movie was art-directed,
1158
01:36:33,862 --> 01:36:37,586
is that bed
in the Phantom's lair.
1159
01:36:37,689 --> 01:36:40,689
I-I think it's what
you call a sleigh bed,
1160
01:36:40,793 --> 01:36:42,655
or you used to call
a sleigh bed,
1161
01:36:42,758 --> 01:36:47,655
but it's got a ship's prow
on the front and it's gold.
1162
01:36:47,758 --> 01:36:50,655
And the Phantom and Christine
move around it quite a bit,
1163
01:36:50,758 --> 01:36:53,275
as though it's the place
that both want to end up.
1164
01:36:53,379 --> 01:36:56,896
Am I the only person who
thinks it's a very kinky bed?
1165
01:36:57,000 --> 01:36:58,931
-I feel like you are.
Yes. Yes.
1166
01:36:59,034 --> 01:37:01,310
-Well, anyway,
I looked into where they got it.
1167
01:37:01,413 --> 01:37:03,551
Carl Laemmle had sent
all these people to Europe
1168
01:37:03,655 --> 01:37:05,344
to find artifacts,
1169
01:37:05,448 --> 01:37:07,655
and they purchased that bed
at an auction
1170
01:37:07,758 --> 01:37:11,793
of the estate of a French
entertainer named Gaby Deslys,
1171
01:37:11,896 --> 01:37:14,103
who was sort of the bad girl
of Europe.
1172
01:37:14,206 --> 01:37:16,310
She was a dancer,
then she was a singer,
1173
01:37:16,413 --> 01:37:18,482
then she was an actress,
1174
01:37:18,586 --> 01:37:20,620
and she was known for having
a fairly public affair
1175
01:37:20,724 --> 01:37:22,206
with the King of Portugal.
1176
01:37:22,310 --> 01:37:24,275
And she created
all these dances,
1177
01:37:24,379 --> 01:37:26,586
all these popular dances --
the Grizzly Bear,
1178
01:37:26,689 --> 01:37:28,206
the Turkey Trot.
1179
01:37:28,310 --> 01:37:31,275
And there was a dance named
after her, the Gaby Glide.
1180
01:37:31,379 --> 01:37:33,965
So they brought the bed back
to Universal,
1181
01:37:34,068 --> 01:37:36,206
and tell me this does not
make it kinky.
1182
01:37:36,310 --> 01:37:39,137
They put it in a film
called "Trifling Women"
1183
01:37:39,241 --> 01:37:41,068
starring Barbara La Marr.
1184
01:37:41,172 --> 01:37:43,137
And I don't think many
people remember Barbara La Marr,
1185
01:37:43,241 --> 01:37:45,034
no relation to Hedy Lamarr,
1186
01:37:45,137 --> 01:37:47,172
but she was known as
"the girl who is too beautiful"
1187
01:37:47,275 --> 01:37:49,344
because one time
when she got arrested
1188
01:37:49,448 --> 01:37:51,965
for drunk and disorderly,
the judge just sent her home
1189
01:37:52,068 --> 01:37:54,482
because he said she was
too beautiful to go to jail.
1190
01:37:54,586 --> 01:37:58,724
Anyway, the bed was used
for her exploits,
1191
01:37:58,827 --> 01:38:01,206
and many, many years later
it would be used
1192
01:38:01,310 --> 01:38:04,413
as Norma Desmond's bed
in "Sunset Boulevard."
1193
01:38:04,517 --> 01:38:06,482
But anyway,
I think you look at that bed
1194
01:38:06,586 --> 01:38:08,551
and you instinctively go,
1195
01:38:08,655 --> 01:38:10,965
"Christine,
don't sit on that bed.
1196
01:38:11,068 --> 01:38:13,862
Go away from that bed.
Beware that bed."
1197
01:38:13,965 --> 01:38:15,724
-You've thought about this
a lot, haven't you?
1198
01:38:15,827 --> 01:38:19,206
-Yeah. Too much.
So let's go back to the movie.
1199
01:38:19,310 --> 01:38:21,724
Roll it. Do you know who
Barbara La Marr was?
1200
01:38:21,827 --> 01:38:23,137
-Not really.
1201
01:38:23,241 --> 01:38:26,344
-Um, the opposite
of Mary Philbin,
1202
01:38:26,448 --> 01:38:29,000
the ultimate Hollywood
party girl.
1203
01:38:29,103 --> 01:38:32,379
Heavy drinker.
Two hours of sleep a night.
1204
01:38:32,482 --> 01:38:34,758
Always on crash diets,
1205
01:38:34,862 --> 01:38:37,448
linked romantically
to a new man every month.
1206
01:38:37,551 --> 01:38:39,724
Probably a lesbian. Um...
1207
01:38:39,827 --> 01:38:42,137
Collapsed on the set of
"The Girl from Montmartre"
1208
01:38:42,241 --> 01:38:46,103
in 1925, went into a coma,
never emerged from it.
1209
01:38:46,206 --> 01:38:48,758
-Wow.
-Dead at 29.
1210
01:38:48,862 --> 01:38:51,931
The coroner said she died
from tuberculosis and nephritis.
1211
01:38:52,034 --> 01:38:53,724
She died from partying.
1212
01:38:53,827 --> 01:38:55,793
-Wow. Respect.
1213
01:38:55,896 --> 01:38:57,310
-It's a choice, though, right?
-Yes.
1214
01:38:57,413 --> 01:38:59,655
-Okay. All right.
That was her bed.
1215
01:38:59,758 --> 01:39:02,172
The Phantom's bed is her bed.
1216
01:39:02,275 --> 01:39:03,344
-Okay, I get your point now.
1217
01:39:03,448 --> 01:39:05,172
-All right. Thank you.
-You're welcome.
1218
01:51:47,344 --> 01:51:48,344
-Okay, Shane.
1219
01:51:48,448 --> 01:51:50,379
How are we doing
in the ugly department?
1220
01:51:50,482 --> 01:51:52,896
-Oh, we're --
we're getting ugly.
1221
01:51:53,000 --> 01:51:55,172
Time clock is ticking, though.
1222
01:51:55,275 --> 01:51:57,517
-Spencer,
thanks for being such a trooper.
1223
01:51:57,620 --> 01:51:59,068
What is your family
gonna think
1224
01:51:59,172 --> 01:52:01,241
when they see you
in this makeup?
1225
01:52:01,344 --> 01:52:04,448
-I'm in for a, uh, pretty rough
Thanksgiving.
1226
01:52:04,551 --> 01:52:07,103
-All right.
Are you guys gonna do a mask?
1227
01:52:07,206 --> 01:52:09,965
-Of course. What's the Phantom
of the Opera without a mask?
1228
01:52:10,068 --> 01:52:11,586
It's getting to the point where
we're gonna have to
1229
01:52:11,689 --> 01:52:12,793
hide this from you guys, anyway.
1230
01:52:12,896 --> 01:52:14,551
-Should we start
hiding everything?
1231
01:52:14,655 --> 01:52:16,517
Should we start
concealing the final result?
1232
01:52:16,620 --> 01:52:20,068
-Oh, yeah. I think it's time
to hide this from the audience
1233
01:52:20,172 --> 01:52:23,620
so we get a big surprise
when reveal happens.
1234
01:52:23,724 --> 01:52:26,206
-All right, carry on. You have
about two and a half hours left.
1235
01:52:26,310 --> 01:52:28,620
-We're gonna make it.
-Okay.
1236
01:52:28,724 --> 01:52:31,310
Darcy, we got some more
glopola faces to compare.
1237
01:52:31,413 --> 01:52:33,620
Here's Robert Englund
in a "Phantom of the Opera"
1238
01:52:33,724 --> 01:52:36,172
remake in 1989.
What do you think of this one?
1239
01:52:36,275 --> 01:52:37,862
-It is very impressive.
1240
01:52:37,965 --> 01:52:40,034
But the Phantom's face
is supposed
1241
01:52:40,137 --> 01:52:42,896
to resemble a human skull.
-True.
1242
01:52:43,000 --> 01:52:45,620
And, actually,
there were two Phantoms in 1989.
1243
01:52:45,724 --> 01:52:47,689
The other one was
"Phantom of the Mall."
1244
01:52:47,793 --> 01:52:49,241
-Yeah.
-But again, it's a face that
1245
01:52:49,344 --> 01:52:51,620
was horribly burned in a fire.
Does that count?
1246
01:52:51,724 --> 01:52:53,896
Oh, it definitely counts.
1247
01:52:54,000 --> 01:52:56,482
-Okay.
1248
01:52:56,586 --> 01:52:58,413
The same would be true
of Liam Neeson
1249
01:52:58,517 --> 01:53:00,275
in Sam Raimi's "Darkman."
1250
01:53:00,379 --> 01:53:03,172
-True.
-And he was injured like that.
1251
01:53:03,275 --> 01:53:05,034
-Yeah, I-I love them both.
1252
01:53:05,137 --> 01:53:07,172
They look amazing,
but they're really similar.
1253
01:53:07,275 --> 01:53:08,896
-You know,
our friend Jill Schoelen
1254
01:53:09,000 --> 01:53:12,137
was the Christine character
in two of those...
1255
01:53:12,241 --> 01:53:13,379
-I know.
-...movies back to back.
1256
01:53:13,482 --> 01:53:16,172
She was in the Robert Englund
"Phantom,"
1257
01:53:16,275 --> 01:53:18,620
and then she was in "Popcorn"
in 1991
1258
01:53:18,724 --> 01:53:21,862
with that disfigured dude
haunting a theater.
1259
01:53:21,965 --> 01:53:24,413
Uh, which is the better
Jill Schoelen "Phantom"?
1260
01:53:24,517 --> 01:53:28,206
-Oh, man, if I gotta pick,
it's gotta be "Popcorn."
1261
01:53:28,310 --> 01:53:29,827
-Okay.
-I love "Popcorn."
1262
01:53:29,931 --> 01:53:31,793
-Much of what you saw
in that last sequence
1263
01:53:31,896 --> 01:53:34,896
was added material,
not from the novel
1264
01:53:35,000 --> 01:53:38,620
that had one purpose --
to make you hate the Phantom.
1265
01:53:38,724 --> 01:53:40,862
He escaped from Devil's Island.
1266
01:53:40,965 --> 01:53:42,965
Not in the book.
1267
01:53:43,068 --> 01:53:46,103
He murders a stagehand
at this point in the story.
1268
01:53:46,206 --> 01:53:47,965
Not in the book.
1269
01:53:48,068 --> 01:53:50,137
He's being tailed by
a detective -- not in the book.
1270
01:53:50,241 --> 01:53:51,827
And that was actually something
1271
01:53:51,931 --> 01:53:54,000
you could only do
in the silent era.
1272
01:53:54,103 --> 01:53:55,793
That character was supposed
to be a character
1273
01:53:55,896 --> 01:53:57,655
from the novel called
the Persian,
1274
01:53:57,758 --> 01:53:59,275
and the Persian was a man
1275
01:53:59,379 --> 01:54:01,379
who had saved the Phantom's life
at a time
1276
01:54:01,482 --> 01:54:04,034
when the Phantom was living
at the royal court of Persia,
1277
01:54:04,137 --> 01:54:06,689
showing the Shah
how to engineer his castle
1278
01:54:06,793 --> 01:54:08,931
and make it impenetrable
and safe,
1279
01:54:09,034 --> 01:54:11,344
and also demonstrating
assassination techniques
1280
01:54:11,448 --> 01:54:13,241
that the Shah found
to be convenient,
1281
01:54:13,344 --> 01:54:16,620
like the Punjab lasso.
1282
01:54:16,724 --> 01:54:19,241
That's why Raoul and
Inspector Ledoux look ridiculous
1283
01:54:19,344 --> 01:54:22,172
as they walk underground,
holding one finger up in the air
1284
01:54:22,275 --> 01:54:25,241
to avoid being lassoed
Punjabi-style.
1285
01:54:25,344 --> 01:54:28,793
So when the Shah decided
that Erik --
1286
01:54:28,896 --> 01:54:30,241
that's the Phantom's
actual name --
1287
01:54:30,344 --> 01:54:32,413
when he decided
that Erik knew too much,
1288
01:54:32,517 --> 01:54:34,310
he plotted to assassinate him.
1289
01:54:34,413 --> 01:54:36,724
But the Persian helped Erik
to escape the country
1290
01:54:36,827 --> 01:54:38,620
and go to Paris,
1291
01:54:38,724 --> 01:54:40,551
so the Persian now is trying
to rescue Christine
1292
01:54:40,655 --> 01:54:43,448
by appealing to Erik's
sense of obligation to him.
1293
01:54:43,551 --> 01:54:46,310
Well, they just decided
at some point to destroy
1294
01:54:46,413 --> 01:54:48,310
all that part of the plot,
1295
01:54:48,413 --> 01:54:51,103
since you don't know what anyone
is saying in a silent movie,
1296
01:54:51,206 --> 01:54:53,137
and you can change
what they're saying
1297
01:54:53,241 --> 01:54:55,827
and even their name by simply
inserting a new title card.
1298
01:54:55,931 --> 01:54:57,517
That's what they did.
1299
01:54:57,620 --> 01:54:59,896
The Persian became
Inspector Ledoux,
1300
01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:01,620
undercover
French police officer.
1301
01:55:01,724 --> 01:55:05,103
And, in fact, they had shot a
whole lot of flashback footage
1302
01:55:05,206 --> 01:55:06,965
at the Persian court
that was now wasted.
1303
01:55:07,068 --> 01:55:09,586
And they even bought
an elephant specifically for
1304
01:55:09,689 --> 01:55:11,275
those Persian sequences.
1305
01:55:11,379 --> 01:55:13,034
The elephant's name was Minnie.
1306
01:55:13,137 --> 01:55:15,655
She was a five-ton circus
elephant sold to Universal
1307
01:55:15,758 --> 01:55:17,517
by the Kansas City Shriners.
1308
01:55:17,620 --> 01:55:20,620
And her footage ended up
on the cutting-room floor.
1309
01:55:20,724 --> 01:55:22,482
-Aw.
-Minnie, however, ended up
1310
01:55:22,586 --> 01:55:26,172
at the Los Angeles Zoo
in nearby Griffith Park...
1311
01:55:26,275 --> 01:55:27,655
-All right.
-...where she was a star
1312
01:55:27,758 --> 01:55:30,896
attraction until her death
about 20 years later.
1313
01:55:31,000 --> 01:55:35,206
Um, now, normally I don't
go into story-conference notes
1314
01:55:35,310 --> 01:55:37,000
because it's boring
and pointless.
1315
01:55:37,103 --> 01:55:38,655
We should just look at
the movie that exists,
1316
01:55:38,758 --> 01:55:40,620
not the movie
that was envisioned.
1317
01:55:40,724 --> 01:55:44,344
But in this particular case,
it helps to understand --
1318
01:55:44,448 --> 01:55:46,379
can I do this, Darcy?
This is --
1319
01:55:46,482 --> 01:55:47,724
-Would it matter if I say no?
1320
01:55:47,827 --> 01:55:49,103
-Of course not.
-Then go ahead.
1321
01:55:49,206 --> 01:55:52,413
-All right. Publicity for
"Phantom of the Opera"
1322
01:55:52,517 --> 01:55:54,689
started a full year
before its official release,
1323
01:55:54,793 --> 01:55:58,000
and the studio was planning
a February 1925 premiere
1324
01:55:58,103 --> 01:55:59,965
at the Globe Theatre
in New York.
1325
01:56:00,068 --> 01:56:01,896
It would have been the first
movie ever shown there.
1326
01:56:02,000 --> 01:56:05,103
The Globe was a very fancy,
legitimate theater.
1327
01:56:05,206 --> 01:56:07,482
It's still there today.
It's the Lunt-Fontanne.
1328
01:56:07,586 --> 01:56:12,310
Still fancy, but not as fancy
as it was in 1925
1329
01:56:12,413 --> 01:56:16,068
when it originally extended
all the way to Times Square.
1330
01:56:16,172 --> 01:56:17,655
New Yorkers familiar
with Times Square
1331
01:56:17,758 --> 01:56:19,689
know what I'm talking about.
1332
01:56:19,793 --> 01:56:23,344
All that tacky retail between
46th and 47th on Broadway?
1333
01:56:23,448 --> 01:56:25,172
That was not there.
1334
01:56:25,275 --> 01:56:26,965
That was the grand promenade
entrance to the Globe.
1335
01:56:27,068 --> 01:56:29,758
Anyway, not only
did they book the Globe,
1336
01:56:29,862 --> 01:56:33,068
they rented two of the largest
electric signs on Broadway,
1337
01:56:33,172 --> 01:56:36,068
and Carl Laemmle ordered
a full-court publicity press
1338
01:56:36,172 --> 01:56:38,241
pointing to
that February premiere.
1339
01:56:38,344 --> 01:56:41,655
But on January the 7th, about
a month before the premiere,
1340
01:56:41,758 --> 01:56:44,689
the studio went into
an all-out panic.
1341
01:56:44,793 --> 01:56:46,689
Laemmle had asked
his friend Sid Grauman
1342
01:56:46,793 --> 01:56:48,413
to sneak the movie
at one of his downtown
1343
01:56:48,517 --> 01:56:49,931
Los Angeles theaters,
1344
01:56:50,034 --> 01:56:52,482
and the audience despised
the movie.
1345
01:56:52,586 --> 01:56:54,137
The comment cards came back
1346
01:56:54,241 --> 01:56:56,827
with devastating hatred
for the ending,
1347
01:56:56,931 --> 01:57:00,310
confusion about some of the
elements, including the Persian,
1348
01:57:00,413 --> 01:57:03,172
and they thought it was
absurdly melodramatic.
1349
01:57:03,275 --> 01:57:04,862
They thought it was too long.
1350
01:57:04,965 --> 01:57:06,896
The editor, Gilmore Walker,
1351
01:57:07,000 --> 01:57:10,344
had started with a rough cut
of 22 reels,
1352
01:57:10,448 --> 01:57:12,310
a four-hour film,
1353
01:57:12,413 --> 01:57:14,827
so, of course, they had to have
an intermission.
1354
01:57:14,931 --> 01:57:18,620
Well, the small talk at
intermission was all negative.
1355
01:57:18,724 --> 01:57:20,758
Quite a few people left
the theater.
1356
01:57:20,862 --> 01:57:22,551
So the editing department
started working
1357
01:57:22,655 --> 01:57:24,448
around the clock to change it.
1358
01:57:24,551 --> 01:57:28,241
And for the new cut,
Walker got rid of 10 reels.
1359
01:57:28,344 --> 01:57:31,655
It was -- he was -- they were
just editing with an ax.
1360
01:57:31,758 --> 01:57:35,068
And Laemmle ordered a second
sneak on January the 27th.
1361
01:57:35,172 --> 01:57:38,275
This time the audience
reaction was even worse.
1362
01:57:38,379 --> 01:57:40,172
So much had been cut out
of the film now
1363
01:57:40,275 --> 01:57:41,793
that nobody understood
the purpose
1364
01:57:41,896 --> 01:57:43,620
of many of the characters.
1365
01:57:43,724 --> 01:57:45,586
So Laemmle canceled
the premiere at the Globe,
1366
01:57:45,689 --> 01:57:48,586
and he ordered Rupert Julian
to shoot a new ending.
1367
01:57:48,689 --> 01:57:51,482
The Phantom had to die.
Julian refused.
1368
01:57:51,586 --> 01:57:53,724
The ending he had shot was
true to the spirit of the novel.
1369
01:57:53,827 --> 01:57:55,655
The Phantom is transformed
by a kiss,
1370
01:57:55,758 --> 01:57:57,379
realizes the meaning
of true love,
1371
01:57:57,482 --> 01:57:59,172
gives his blessing to Christine
to marry Raoul,
1372
01:57:59,275 --> 01:58:01,482
and is later found dead
at his organ.
1373
01:58:01,586 --> 01:58:03,379
But Laemmle was clear.
1374
01:58:03,482 --> 01:58:05,068
Based on audience
reaction cards,
1375
01:58:05,172 --> 01:58:07,448
there must be no sympathy
for the Phantom.
1376
01:58:07,551 --> 01:58:09,068
He must be killed.
1377
01:58:09,172 --> 01:58:11,103
And since Rupert Julian
wouldn't shoot the new scenes,
1378
01:58:11,206 --> 01:58:14,413
he was fired and Laemmle brought
in veteran Edward Sedgwick,
1379
01:58:14,517 --> 01:58:17,793
the director of those cheap
Hoot Gibson westerns,
1380
01:58:17,896 --> 01:58:20,931
to shoot the new ending dreamed
up by the story committee.
1381
01:58:21,034 --> 01:58:23,793
So the Phantom commits
a murder of a stagehand
1382
01:58:23,896 --> 01:58:26,724
who "knows too much,"
and his grieving,
1383
01:58:26,827 --> 01:58:29,482
vengeance-seeking brother
incites a mob
1384
01:58:29,586 --> 01:58:31,586
that chases the Phantom
to his death.
1385
01:58:31,689 --> 01:58:35,517
Now, Sedgwick,
who was also a comedy director,
1386
01:58:35,620 --> 01:58:38,655
inserted lots
of "comic-relief scenes"
1387
01:58:38,758 --> 01:58:40,551
in an effort
to satisfy the audience members
1388
01:58:40,655 --> 01:58:42,275
who were bored
by the whole story,
1389
01:58:42,379 --> 01:58:43,896
when, in fact,
they were apparently just bored
1390
01:58:44,000 --> 01:58:45,551
with the length
of the whole story.
1391
01:58:45,655 --> 01:58:48,137
But this is also the point
at which the Universal writers
1392
01:58:48,241 --> 01:58:52,482
decided that the Persian had,
quote, "no rhyme nor reason,"
1393
01:58:52,586 --> 01:58:54,758
and they converted him
into an undercover policeman
1394
01:58:54,862 --> 01:58:58,000
chasing an escapee
from Devil's Island.
1395
01:58:58,103 --> 01:59:01,379
A legendary title writer
named Walter Anthony
1396
01:59:01,482 --> 01:59:04,758
was hired away from Paramount,
brought from New York
1397
01:59:04,862 --> 01:59:06,793
to Hollywood
just to work on "Phantom."
1398
01:59:06,896 --> 01:59:08,793
All publicity was halted.
1399
01:59:08,896 --> 01:59:10,620
When they'd made all
the writing changes,
1400
01:59:10,724 --> 01:59:13,068
the character changes,
the editing changes,
1401
01:59:13,172 --> 01:59:16,310
they scheduled a test run
of the "new, improved film"
1402
01:59:16,413 --> 01:59:18,551
with a limited engagement
in April and May
1403
01:59:18,655 --> 01:59:21,137
at the Curran Theatre
in San Francisco.
1404
01:59:21,241 --> 01:59:22,896
Curran was
another legitimate theater
1405
01:59:23,000 --> 01:59:24,862
where movies were never shown.
1406
01:59:24,965 --> 01:59:26,586
Um, actually,
that's true to this day.
1407
01:59:26,689 --> 01:59:29,137
It's a famous
pre-Broadway tryout house.
1408
01:59:29,241 --> 01:59:32,793
And the thinking was,
"Okay, third time's a charm."
1409
01:59:32,896 --> 01:59:35,793
They used a version
that included a duel,
1410
01:59:35,896 --> 01:59:38,275
lots of new comic-relief
characters, and of course,
1411
01:59:38,379 --> 01:59:41,000
the new "throw the Phantom
in the river" ending.
1412
01:59:41,103 --> 01:59:43,275
And the reaction was...
1413
01:59:43,379 --> 01:59:45,827
even worse
than the first two screenings,
1414
01:59:45,931 --> 01:59:49,586
leading to another six months of
tinkering and second guessing.
1415
01:59:49,689 --> 01:59:51,758
By the time
the movie premiered in September
1416
01:59:51,862 --> 01:59:54,000
at the Astor in Times Square,
1417
01:59:54,103 --> 01:59:55,965
all the comic characters
were gone,
1418
01:59:56,068 --> 01:59:58,034
all the stuff in Persia
was gone,
1419
01:59:58,137 --> 02:00:00,310
the sequence in a churchyard
was gone.
1420
02:00:00,413 --> 02:00:03,068
The besieged editor, Gilmore
Walker, bless his heart --
1421
02:00:03,172 --> 02:00:06,310
he had cut his original
22-reel version down to 10.
1422
02:00:06,413 --> 02:00:10,586
The studio ultimately decided on
the leanest possible version
1423
02:00:10,689 --> 02:00:12,862
with the least possible nuance.
1424
02:00:12,965 --> 02:00:16,172
Christine loved Raoul
and only Raoul.
1425
02:00:16,275 --> 02:00:18,551
The Phantom was
a deranged killer and must die.
1426
02:00:18,655 --> 02:00:20,379
And poor Arthur Edmund Carewe,
1427
02:00:20,482 --> 02:00:22,724
the Armenian American
playing the Persian --
1428
02:00:22,827 --> 02:00:25,413
he was just unaware of anything
he was saying or doing
1429
02:00:25,517 --> 02:00:28,586
because it had all
been changed in the title cards.
1430
02:00:28,689 --> 02:00:30,689
Hollywood will always argue
1431
02:00:30,793 --> 02:00:32,793
over who's the real author
of any movie.
1432
02:00:32,896 --> 02:00:34,655
You know, in some cases,
it's the director.
1433
02:00:34,758 --> 02:00:36,586
In some cases, it's the writer.
1434
02:00:36,689 --> 02:00:38,241
In some cases,
it's the producer.
1435
02:00:38,344 --> 02:00:40,000
In this case,
1436
02:00:40,103 --> 02:00:42,137
it was about 37 different people
at the studio
1437
02:00:42,241 --> 02:00:45,517
and 10,000 audience members who
had seen it at test screenings.
1438
02:00:45,620 --> 02:00:48,344
The only person who could claim
true authorship of the movie
1439
02:00:48,448 --> 02:00:50,655
would be Carl Laemmle,
the owner of Universal,
1440
02:00:50,758 --> 02:00:52,482
and the only person
who could deliver a hit
1441
02:00:52,586 --> 02:00:56,275
under those circumstances
was Lon Chaney.
1442
02:00:56,379 --> 02:01:01,103
It is a miracle
that the movie survived at all.
1443
02:01:01,206 --> 02:01:02,275
Sorry, Darcy.
1444
02:01:02,379 --> 02:01:04,103
-Oh my God. Don't be.
It was great.
1445
02:01:04,206 --> 02:01:05,724
But are you done now, though?
1446
02:01:05,827 --> 02:01:09,827
-Back to the conclusion
of "Phantom of the Opera."
1447
02:01:09,931 --> 02:01:13,068
Am I ever done?
-No. Never.
1448
02:01:13,172 --> 02:01:15,206
-That's what we do here.
We talk it to death.
1449
02:01:15,310 --> 02:01:16,793
-And then you talk it
some more.
1450
02:01:16,896 --> 02:01:18,689
-Yes.
I call it dead-horse criticism.
1451
02:01:18,793 --> 02:01:20,724
That's what we do.
-As you should.
1452
02:01:20,827 --> 02:01:21,965
-Not really.
-Oh, no.
1453
02:01:22,068 --> 02:01:23,965
That is actually
an excellent way to describe it.
1454
02:01:24,068 --> 02:01:25,655
-People love a deep dive,
though.
1455
02:01:25,758 --> 02:01:27,620
-Not when the dive is so deep,
you bump your head
1456
02:01:27,724 --> 02:01:29,862
on the floor of the pool
and drown.
1457
02:01:29,965 --> 02:01:31,551
-Was it that bad?
1458
02:01:31,655 --> 02:01:33,448
-I mean, it was pretty long
tonight, just saying.
1459
02:01:33,551 --> 02:01:34,862
-All right.
-But, but, but, but!
1460
02:01:34,965 --> 02:01:36,724
-Happy birthday, "Phantom,"
is what I should say.
1461
02:01:36,827 --> 02:01:38,827
-No, exactly.
"Phantom" deserves it.
1462
02:01:38,931 --> 02:01:40,862
Happy birthday, "Phantom."
1463
02:01:40,965 --> 02:01:43,172
And that is the only way you're
getting away with this tonight,
1464
02:01:43,275 --> 02:01:43,965
just so you know.
-I know.
1465
02:01:44,068 --> 02:01:44,965
-I know.
-I know.
1466
02:01:45,068 --> 02:01:47,793
Okay.
1467
02:18:52,931 --> 02:18:55,310
-You know, I always wonder
about that last comic moment
1468
02:18:55,413 --> 02:18:57,689
where the Phantom pretends
to have a grenade in his hand,
1469
02:18:57,793 --> 02:18:59,103
but then he laughs at the mob
1470
02:18:59,206 --> 02:19:00,793
right before
they tear him apart.
1471
02:19:00,896 --> 02:19:02,206
-That's great.
1472
02:19:02,310 --> 02:19:03,586
-I would love
to watch the 22-reel,
1473
02:19:03,689 --> 02:19:05,344
four-hour version of "Phantom"
1474
02:19:05,448 --> 02:19:07,793
that was tested
in January of 1925,
1475
02:19:07,896 --> 02:19:10,068
but we don't have
any of that lost footage.
1476
02:19:10,172 --> 02:19:12,034
We don't have the footage
from the Persian court.
1477
02:19:12,137 --> 02:19:13,931
We don't have Christine's
visit to her father's grave
1478
02:19:14,034 --> 02:19:16,517
in the churchyard --
churchyard cemetery.
1479
02:19:16,620 --> 02:19:19,000
Uh, we don't even have
those comic-relief sequences
1480
02:19:19,103 --> 02:19:21,586
that Edward Sedgwick shot
to try to lighten it up.
1481
02:19:21,689 --> 02:19:23,965
We don't have the duel
with Count Ruboff,
1482
02:19:24,068 --> 02:19:26,000
but what is it about this story
1483
02:19:26,103 --> 02:19:29,448
that has inspired so many
adaptations and re-imaginings,
1484
02:19:29,551 --> 02:19:31,206
and what made it
the longest-running show
1485
02:19:31,310 --> 02:19:32,931
in the history of Broadway?
1486
02:19:33,034 --> 02:19:36,275
13,981 performances
at the Majestic Theatre
1487
02:19:36,379 --> 02:19:38,862
between 1988 and 2023,
1488
02:19:38,965 --> 02:19:40,517
with that giant chandelier
rising
1489
02:19:40,620 --> 02:19:42,344
from the stage every night.
1490
02:19:42,448 --> 02:19:44,103
The chandelier scene,
by the way,
1491
02:19:44,206 --> 02:19:46,000
was based on a real event
at the Paris Opera.
1492
02:19:46,103 --> 02:19:48,862
An audience member was killed
and several injured
1493
02:19:48,965 --> 02:19:50,931
when the chandelier did fall
into the crowd
1494
02:19:51,034 --> 02:19:53,275
on a certain night in 1896.
1495
02:19:53,379 --> 02:19:56,655
I think the reason
the Phantom story has persisted
1496
02:19:56,758 --> 02:19:58,896
is that it's so elastic.
1497
02:19:59,000 --> 02:20:01,413
Um, the Phantom can be
anything from an assassin
1498
02:20:01,517 --> 02:20:03,310
to a psychopath
1499
02:20:03,413 --> 02:20:06,034
to a misunderstood genius
with a heart of gold.
1500
02:20:06,137 --> 02:20:08,793
Every retelling creates
a new Phantom,
1501
02:20:08,896 --> 02:20:10,931
so it's actually
not a very original story.
1502
02:20:11,034 --> 02:20:13,448
It's very similar
to the more famous novel
1503
02:20:13,551 --> 02:20:16,137
"Trilby" by George du Maurier.
1504
02:20:16,241 --> 02:20:22,655
The Phantom is a more reclusive
version of Svengali in "Trilby,"
1505
02:20:22,758 --> 02:20:25,344
but at the core of the story
is the question,
1506
02:20:25,448 --> 02:20:27,827
does it make a difference if
you're forced to go through life
1507
02:20:27,931 --> 02:20:29,586
with a face
that the world rejects?
1508
02:20:29,689 --> 02:20:32,172
And, of course,
the answer is, yes, it does.
1509
02:20:32,275 --> 02:20:36,655
Um, whether the Phantom dies by
suicide, is killed by the mob,
1510
02:20:36,758 --> 02:20:38,448
or simply fades away,
1511
02:20:38,551 --> 02:20:40,034
as he does in the disappearing
act at the end
1512
02:20:40,137 --> 02:20:42,310
of Andrew Lloyd Webber's
version,
1513
02:20:42,413 --> 02:20:44,413
um, it's clear
that he's cursed from birth.
1514
02:20:44,517 --> 02:20:48,103
He has no real chance because
we do care what he looks like,
1515
02:20:48,206 --> 02:20:49,965
despite what we say.
1516
02:20:50,068 --> 02:20:51,827
There's also the idea
in the novel and the film
1517
02:20:51,931 --> 02:20:53,655
and the musical
1518
02:20:53,758 --> 02:20:55,344
that the world is
usually divided into two classes
1519
02:20:55,448 --> 02:20:58,896
of people --
the privileged and the outcasts.
1520
02:20:59,000 --> 02:21:00,793
And you can't cross that chasm.
1521
02:21:00,896 --> 02:21:02,965
Everything above ground
at the Paris Opera House
1522
02:21:03,068 --> 02:21:05,206
is beautiful, wealthy,
perfectly formed,
1523
02:21:05,310 --> 02:21:07,275
ordered, cultured.
1524
02:21:07,379 --> 02:21:09,310
And everything below ground at
the Paris Opera House is ugly,
1525
02:21:09,413 --> 02:21:13,034
defiled, poor, mad,
homeless, chaotic.
1526
02:21:13,137 --> 02:21:16,137
This is always a recipe
for monstrous violence
1527
02:21:16,241 --> 02:21:18,344
and violent monsters.
1528
02:21:18,448 --> 02:21:21,241
Most of the people involved
in the original "Phantom"
1529
02:21:21,344 --> 02:21:23,862
were forgotten by the time
that they died,
1530
02:21:23,965 --> 02:21:25,896
Lon Chaney being
the sole exception
1531
02:21:26,000 --> 02:21:28,655
because he died so soon, just
five years after the premiere.
1532
02:21:28,758 --> 02:21:31,758
I already talked about
the sad life of Mary Philbin,
1533
02:21:31,862 --> 02:21:35,103
who lived till age 91
as a virtual recluse.
1534
02:21:35,206 --> 02:21:36,827
Norman Kerry, who played Raoul,
1535
02:21:36,931 --> 02:21:39,241
didn't really get any work
after 1931,
1536
02:21:39,344 --> 02:21:42,482
although he lived till 1956.
1537
02:21:42,586 --> 02:21:44,413
Uh, Rupert Julian,
the director who had had
1538
02:21:44,517 --> 02:21:47,344
a distinguished theater and film
career
1539
02:21:47,448 --> 02:21:49,517
as both an actor
and a director, uh,
1540
02:21:49,620 --> 02:21:53,103
retired in 1936 after his
sound career failed to take off,
1541
02:21:53,206 --> 02:21:55,448
and he died in 1943.
1542
02:21:55,551 --> 02:21:57,413
Arthur Edmund Carewe,
the Armenian actor
1543
02:21:57,517 --> 02:21:59,758
who played Inspector Ledoux,
1544
02:21:59,862 --> 02:22:03,620
committed suicide in 1937
at the age of 53.
1545
02:22:03,724 --> 02:22:05,517
Gaston Leroux, the novelist,
1546
02:22:05,620 --> 02:22:07,827
lived only two years
after the release of the movie,
1547
02:22:07,931 --> 02:22:09,827
but he seemed to enjoy
the notoriety of it,
1548
02:22:09,931 --> 02:22:12,034
even after his novel
had been butchered
1549
02:22:12,137 --> 02:22:14,517
by the Universal rewrite squad.
1550
02:22:14,620 --> 02:22:16,793
He didn't mind that much 'cause
he was basically a reporter.
1551
02:22:16,896 --> 02:22:18,862
He was not a literary man.
1552
02:22:18,965 --> 02:22:21,896
He was really one of the most
celebrated reporters of his day.
1553
02:22:22,000 --> 02:22:24,896
He wrote plays and novels,
basically, as a sideline.
1554
02:22:25,000 --> 02:22:27,310
And even though Carl Laemmle
would continue to invest
1555
02:22:27,413 --> 02:22:29,172
in the best horror films
of the day,
1556
02:22:29,275 --> 02:22:31,068
including "Frankenstein,"
"Dracula,"
1557
02:22:31,172 --> 02:22:32,689
"The Mummy," many others,
1558
02:22:32,793 --> 02:22:35,379
he would lose control
of Universal in 1936
1559
02:22:35,482 --> 02:22:38,758
and a hostile takeover
and die three years later.
1560
02:22:38,862 --> 02:22:42,172
And Darcy, one thing that was
interesting to me
1561
02:22:42,275 --> 02:22:45,034
is that the torture chamber
of the Phantom
1562
02:22:45,137 --> 02:22:47,862
was a room of infinite mirrors.
-Oh, yeah.
1563
02:22:47,965 --> 02:22:50,448
That is absolutely
my definition of torture.
1564
02:22:50,551 --> 02:22:52,275
-You hate mirrors.
1565
02:22:52,379 --> 02:22:54,000
-They're kind of --
they're overrated.
1566
02:22:54,103 --> 02:22:56,793
-I think the idea was
that when that building
1567
02:22:56,896 --> 02:22:59,379
was being used
as a revolutionary prison,
1568
02:22:59,482 --> 02:23:02,068
they put the mirrors there
to make people watch themselves
1569
02:23:02,172 --> 02:23:04,896
as they were tortured.
-That sounds unbearable.
1570
02:23:05,000 --> 02:23:06,862
-I'm not a fan of mirrors,
1571
02:23:06,965 --> 02:23:09,172
but even worse is watching
myself on the actual show.
1572
02:23:09,275 --> 02:23:10,551
I can't -- I can't do it.
1573
02:23:10,655 --> 02:23:13,241
Sometimes I have to do it,
but it's painful.
1574
02:23:13,344 --> 02:23:15,000
I try not to do it 'cause
it makes me self-conscious.
1575
02:23:15,103 --> 02:23:18,413
-Aw. Well, it's way beyond
self-conscious for me,
1576
02:23:18,517 --> 02:23:19,586
so I get it.
-I know.
1577
02:23:19,689 --> 02:23:21,620
Well, um, no mirrors here.
1578
02:23:21,724 --> 02:23:23,620
So let's get ready for the
second movie
1579
02:23:23,724 --> 02:23:25,448
of "The Last Drive-In"
premiere tonight.
1580
02:23:25,551 --> 02:23:28,275
Uh, moving from the foundation
film of "Phantom" movies
1581
02:23:28,379 --> 02:23:31,206
to the most batshit crazy
of all "Phantom" movies,
1582
02:23:31,310 --> 02:23:34,034
Dario Argento's "Opera."
-Whoo!
1583
02:23:34,137 --> 02:23:36,034
Do we have any pertinent mailbag
first, though?
1584
02:23:36,137 --> 02:23:38,379
-Indeed we do.
1585
02:23:38,482 --> 02:23:41,827
This letter came in
from Cliff Revard of Denver,
1586
02:23:41,931 --> 02:23:43,413
and I think
you're gonna like it.
1587
02:23:43,517 --> 02:23:44,620
-Really?
-Yes.
1588
02:23:44,724 --> 02:23:47,310
-Okay.
1589
02:23:47,413 --> 02:23:49,241
"Dear Joe Bob,
my name is Cliff Revard,
1590
02:23:49,344 --> 02:23:50,862
and I am eight years old."
1591
02:23:50,965 --> 02:23:53,000
-Aw!
-Well, they get younger
and younger.
1592
02:23:53,103 --> 02:23:55,172
I gotta start watching
my language on the show.
1593
02:23:55,275 --> 02:23:57,413
-He's gotta learn.
-"I'm from Denver, Colorado,
1594
02:23:57,517 --> 02:23:58,827
in the neighborhood
of Montbello.
1595
02:23:58,931 --> 02:24:00,586
My mom is helping
to write this letter.
1596
02:24:00,689 --> 02:24:02,655
I have
Rubinstein-Taybi Syndrome,
1597
02:24:02,758 --> 02:24:04,827
which is a rare
genetic condition
1598
02:24:04,931 --> 02:24:06,758
that affected my brain,
heart, vision, lungs,
1599
02:24:06,862 --> 02:24:09,000
and other areas of my body.
1600
02:24:09,103 --> 02:24:11,034
I'm very bright,
but because I am non-verbal,
1601
02:24:11,137 --> 02:24:13,172
it is sometimes hard
to show people how intelligent,
1602
02:24:13,275 --> 02:24:14,724
funny, and cool I am."
-Aw.
1603
02:24:14,827 --> 02:24:16,379
-"Watching your show
is one of our --
1604
02:24:16,482 --> 02:24:18,862
my mom and mine --
favorite highlights of our week.
1605
02:24:18,965 --> 02:24:22,586
We get to cuddle in bed and
focus on our shared comforts,
1606
02:24:22,689 --> 02:24:24,275
watching horror movies together.
1607
02:24:24,379 --> 02:24:26,448
It's a time where we
are not focused on anything else
1608
02:24:26,551 --> 02:24:28,344
but just enjoying the moment.
1609
02:24:28,448 --> 02:24:30,689
I love learning about the movie
and hearing fun facts.
1610
02:24:30,793 --> 02:24:32,344
I even laugh at your jokes."
1611
02:24:32,448 --> 02:24:34,965
Somebody laughs at my jokes,
Darcy.
1612
02:24:35,068 --> 02:24:37,137
-It's a pity laugh.
-Cliff laughs at my jokes.
1613
02:24:37,241 --> 02:24:39,931
He's just trying to be nice.
1614
02:24:40,034 --> 02:24:42,551
-Uh, "We love the dynamic
between you and Darcy."
1615
02:24:42,655 --> 02:24:44,068
-Aw.
-"And the cosplays are
1616
02:24:44,172 --> 02:24:45,793
always so fun.'
-Aah!
1617
02:24:45,896 --> 02:24:48,758
-"You call your fans mutants
and express how we are family.
1618
02:24:48,862 --> 02:24:52,793
And even though we may not
all know one another personally,
1619
02:24:52,896 --> 02:24:54,965
I feel a connection to this
community.
1620
02:24:55,068 --> 02:24:57,482
As long as we can come
together once a week
1621
02:24:57,586 --> 02:24:59,689
and hang out with you and Darcy
and the gang,
1622
02:24:59,793 --> 02:25:02,310
we are never alone."
1623
02:25:02,413 --> 02:25:04,551
I'm sorry. It's nice.
1624
02:25:04,655 --> 02:25:06,137
-Why did you do this?
-It's a nice letter.
1625
02:25:06,241 --> 02:25:07,482
-"I'm happy to have
my mutant family.
1626
02:25:07,586 --> 02:25:09,379
When I grow up.
I want to write horror movies
1627
02:25:09,482 --> 02:25:11,655
and own a drive-in.
Who knows, maybe someday you may
1628
02:25:11,758 --> 02:25:13,000
host my movie at my drive-in."
-Hell, yeah.
1629
02:25:13,103 --> 02:25:15,482
-"Darcy and Joe Bob, please keep
doing what you're doing.
1630
02:25:15,586 --> 02:25:16,793
It is really special.
1631
02:25:16,896 --> 02:25:19,275
Love your mutant family member,
Cliff Revard."
1632
02:25:19,379 --> 02:25:22,241
Okay, well, Cliffy --
I'm calling you Cliffy,
1633
02:25:22,344 --> 02:25:25,620
because that's what it says on
the outside of the envelope --
1634
02:25:25,724 --> 02:25:28,448
um, thanks for summing up
what it's all about.
1635
02:25:28,551 --> 02:25:30,482
We're a bunch of people
who are homeless in the world,
1636
02:25:30,586 --> 02:25:32,310
but at home with one another.
1637
02:25:32,413 --> 02:25:34,862
So something about horror
does that to people.
1638
02:25:34,965 --> 02:25:36,551
And you're actually
not the first
1639
02:25:36,655 --> 02:25:39,000
non-verbal fan of the show.
We have another guy.
1640
02:25:39,103 --> 02:25:40,620
I don't know
if he has Rubinstein-Taybi
1641
02:25:40,724 --> 02:25:42,241
or something else,
but I met him at one
1642
02:25:42,344 --> 02:25:43,965
of the conventions
in Pennsylvania.
1643
02:25:44,068 --> 02:25:45,689
So when God gave out words,
1644
02:25:45,793 --> 02:25:47,000
he apparently gave them out
unevenly
1645
02:25:47,103 --> 02:25:48,862
so that those of us
who have too many words --
1646
02:25:48,965 --> 02:25:50,620
and don't say anything
about that, Darcy...
1647
02:25:50,724 --> 02:25:52,000
-I said nothing.
-...can donate some to
1648
02:25:52,103 --> 02:25:54,448
the wordless
by speaking up for them.
1649
02:25:54,551 --> 02:25:57,379
Shane, I hope you're
at least half done,
1650
02:25:57,482 --> 02:25:59,862
'cause we are out of here.
1651
02:25:59,965 --> 02:26:04,896
-I am about half done
with the sculpting,
1652
02:26:05,000 --> 02:26:06,448
and then I'm gonna
get ready to paint it.
1653
02:26:06,551 --> 02:26:08,068
So, yeah,
I'm feeling pretty good.
1654
02:26:08,172 --> 02:26:11,206
-All right.
Remember, it's not ugly
1655
02:26:11,310 --> 02:26:14,275
until it makes you
want to throw up.
1656
02:26:14,379 --> 02:26:15,896
-The time-constraint thing
is kind of making me
1657
02:26:16,000 --> 02:26:17,551
me want to throw up.
1658
02:26:17,655 --> 02:26:19,931
I think I'm gonna be okay,
though.
1659
02:26:20,034 --> 02:26:22,931
-And, Spencer, I feel like
I owe you an apology.
1660
02:26:23,034 --> 02:26:26,379
-No, man, you sent me those
two bolo ties a few months back.
1661
02:26:26,482 --> 02:26:29,137
Just keep those coming,
and we're square.
1662
02:26:29,241 --> 02:26:31,172
-But, Spencer, you --
but you are free to throw up
1663
02:26:31,275 --> 02:26:32,448
whenever you want.
1664
02:26:32,551 --> 02:26:34,241
Go ahead.
-You must have missed it.
1665
02:26:34,344 --> 02:26:36,310
About five minutes ago,
I vomited all over Shane.
1666
02:26:36,413 --> 02:26:37,896
Sorry about your boots,
buddy.
1667
02:26:38,000 --> 02:26:39,620
-It's all right.
1668
02:26:39,724 --> 02:26:41,655
-They weren't real suede,
were they?
1669
02:26:41,758 --> 02:26:45,724
-All right, just one more movie,
and then you're done.
1670
02:26:45,827 --> 02:26:48,034
And now we're gonna clean up
our clothes
1671
02:26:48,137 --> 02:26:50,206
and get ready for part two
1672
02:26:50,310 --> 02:26:53,034
of "The Phantom of the Opera"
100th birthday.
1673
02:26:53,137 --> 02:26:54,551
And then after that,
we're gonna reveal
1674
02:26:54,655 --> 02:26:56,206
the ultimate ugly face.
1675
02:26:56,310 --> 02:26:58,482
I'm Joe Bob Briggs
with Darcy the Mail Girl,
1676
02:26:58,586 --> 02:27:01,310
reminding you that
the only thing fair in life
1677
02:27:01,413 --> 02:27:04,137
is the hair
on a Norwegian albino's butt,
1678
02:27:04,241 --> 02:27:06,758
and the drive-in will never die.
1679
02:27:06,862 --> 02:27:08,862
What?
1680
02:27:08,965 --> 02:27:10,448
-I've got a -- I've got a --
-It's okay.
1681
02:27:10,551 --> 02:27:11,793
-I've got an ugly joke.
-Okay, go for it.
1682
02:27:11,896 --> 02:27:14,344
-All right. Three women die
and go to Heaven.
1683
02:27:14,448 --> 02:27:16,482
-Okay.
-When they get to Heaven,
1684
02:27:16,586 --> 02:27:18,827
Saint Peter says, "We only have
one rule here in Heaven --
1685
02:27:18,931 --> 02:27:21,965
don't step on the ducks."
So they enter Heaven,
1686
02:27:22,068 --> 02:27:23,827
and sure enough, there are ducks
all over the place.
1687
02:27:23,931 --> 02:27:26,137
It's almost impossible
not to step on a duck.
1688
02:27:26,241 --> 02:27:28,344
And although they try
their best to avoid them,
1689
02:27:28,448 --> 02:27:31,482
the first woman
accidentally steps on a duck.
1690
02:27:31,586 --> 02:27:34,689
So along comes Saint Peter with
the ugliest man she ever saw.
1691
02:27:34,793 --> 02:27:37,000
And Saint Peter chains them
together and says,
1692
02:27:37,103 --> 02:27:39,000
"Your punishment
for stepping on a duck
1693
02:27:39,103 --> 02:27:43,379
is to spend eternity
chained to this man."
1694
02:27:43,482 --> 02:27:45,172
So the next day,
1695
02:27:45,275 --> 02:27:46,448
the second woman
accidentally steps on a duck.
1696
02:27:46,551 --> 02:27:49,103
Along comes Saint Peter.
He doesn't miss a thing.
1697
02:27:49,206 --> 02:27:51,206
With him is another
extremely ugly man.
1698
02:27:51,310 --> 02:27:53,275
He chains them together
with the same admonishment
1699
02:27:53,379 --> 02:27:57,724
as for the first woman --
for eternity.
1700
02:27:57,827 --> 02:28:00,068
The third woman
has observed all this,
1701
02:28:00,172 --> 02:28:03,310
and not wanting to be chained
for all eternity to an ugly man,
1702
02:28:03,413 --> 02:28:05,965
she's very careful
where she steps.
1703
02:28:06,068 --> 02:28:09,517
She manages to go months
without stepping on any ducks,
1704
02:28:09,620 --> 02:28:11,620
but one day Saint Peter
comes up to her
1705
02:28:11,724 --> 02:28:14,068
with the most handsome man
she's ever laid eyes on.
1706
02:28:14,172 --> 02:28:17,000
He's tall, he's muscular,
he's thin.
1707
02:28:17,103 --> 02:28:19,896
Saint Peter chains them together
without saying a word,
1708
02:28:20,000 --> 02:28:21,793
and the happy woman says,
1709
02:28:21,896 --> 02:28:23,689
"I wonder what I did
to deserve being chained to you
1710
02:28:23,793 --> 02:28:24,931
for all eternity."
1711
02:28:25,034 --> 02:28:26,206
And the guy says,
"I don't know about you,
1712
02:28:26,310 --> 02:28:28,275
but I stepped on a duck."
1713
02:28:31,620 --> 02:28:34,517
-That's mean.
That's not nice.
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