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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:04,136 This programme contains strong language from the start, adult 2 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 3 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:06,536 themes, and views on the monarchy that some people may find offensive. 4 00:00:06,560 --> 00:00:08,016 I didn't make any jokes when the Queen died. 5 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 6 00:00:08,040 --> 00:00:09,096 I maintained a strict silence 7 00:00:09,120 --> 00:00:10,736 as I tried to sneak back out of her bedroom. 8 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:12,816 People queued for ten miles to see the Queen lying in state. 9 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:14,360 I accidentally joined the wrong queue. 10 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:16,616 At the end, there was just a Scouser who charged me a tenner 11 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:18,120 to see a dead badger in a tiara. 12 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:24,600 Royal insiders say the new King is keen to modernise the monarchy, 13 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:27,600 starting with the radical redefinition of the word "modernise" 14 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:29,560 to mean "keep exactly the same". 15 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:32,640 Of course they'll try to find ways of sounding relevant. 16 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:35,200 King Charles spoke out recently about climate change. 17 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:37,240 He said it was rare to hear such despair 18 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:38,880 in young people's voices 19 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:41,160 that aren't coming from his brother's bedroom. 20 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:45,360 To be fair, the royals are doing their bit to reduce emissions 21 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:48,040 by never flying the jewels they own back to the countries 22 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:50,120 they were stolen from. 23 00:00:50,160 --> 00:00:54,000 It's time to say farewell to the monarchy. 24 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:13,920 The royal family are as much a part of our nation's history 25 00:01:13,960 --> 00:01:15,680 as steam trains and genocide. 26 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:19,480 Famously, the public drew strength from the royal family 27 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:21,760 staying in London during World War II. 28 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:24,200 Presumably, they thought the Luftwaffe might hold back 29 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:26,440 if there was a risk they'd bomb their own. 30 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:27,520 But increasingly, 31 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:30,080 the British monarchy appear like animals in a zoo 32 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:31,680 that's fallen on hard times - 33 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:35,560 fidgety, balding, pacing up and down their marble cage, 34 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:37,520 pausing only to chew their own tail off 35 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:40,000 or commit a sex crime out of boredom. 36 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:46,760 So, what will happen to Britain's most boring crime syndicate? 37 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:48,760 To find out about the future of the monarchy, 38 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:50,240 we must look back at their past 39 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:52,800 because that is the premise on which I obtained 40 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:54,520 the commission for this show. 41 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:57,360 MUSIC: Rule, Britannia! by Thomas Arne. 42 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:00,960 I'm going to look at some of the most famous English 43 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:02,560 and British kings and queens 44 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:04,720 and choose one quality from each of them 45 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:08,120 that has helped to shape the monarchy as it is today. 46 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:11,760 And who better to start with than William the Conqueror? 47 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:24,440 Just smashing into the white cliffs of Dover, 48 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:26,280 a proper Brexit death. 49 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:28,200 LAUGHTER. 50 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,040 William the Conqueror could have conquered anywhere, 51 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:44,840 but he felt that God had chosen him 52 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:47,040 as the ruler of the isosceles triangle 53 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:49,600 of wind and racism known as England. 54 00:02:49,640 --> 00:02:51,040 Before the Normans arrived, 55 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:53,760 the high point of English culture was watching the village idiot 56 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:55,760 punch a pig to death in a stone circle 57 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:57,200 to save the harvest, 58 00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:00,720 and at certain time slots on Channel 5, it still is. 59 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:02,880 We know quite a lot about the Battle of Hastings 60 00:03:02,920 --> 00:03:04,520 because of the Bayeux Tapestry. 61 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:07,000 It wasn't created until four years after the battle, 62 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:09,840 although, in fairness, you'd have to stitch fucking fast 63 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:11,640 to capture the action as it happened. 64 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:16,440 William the Conqueror, 65 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:18,440 he'd been fighting since he was a child, really. 66 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:19,920 So, from around seven years old, 67 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:23,160 we know that the Duke of Normandy was taught warfare. 68 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:28,760 So, he was all set for this battle. His day came. 69 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:29,920 We'll try and get a... 70 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:32,400 ..an idea of what he would've been wearing in battle. 71 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:33,720 This is a short tunic, 72 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:36,360 and that's very heavy just being short, isn't it? Yeah. 73 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:38,480 And this is the full version? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. 74 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:42,680 This is a slightly lighter gauge, but it's a bigger garment. 75 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:44,800 How much of a light gauge do you want? 76 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:47,160 I quite like this. I mean, I sort of think... Yeah, yeah. 77 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:49,480 But hang on. Hang on. Put yourself in a battle... Yeah. 78 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:52,080 ..where it's like running into a razor blade factory... 79 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:53,120 Yeah. Yeah? 80 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:55,160 You're not just fighting the chap in front of you. 81 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:56,720 You've got everybody else fighting, 82 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:58,480 and these swords are super, super sharp. 83 00:03:58,520 --> 00:03:59,920 Now you say that, I'd like both. 84 00:03:59,960 --> 00:04:01,120 THEY LAUGH. 85 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:09,320 That'd be quite good going out... 86 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:11,960 That's not bad! ..on a Friday night in Glasgow. 87 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:13,400 All right, let's try this on. 88 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:16,240 You're looking good. 89 00:04:16,280 --> 00:04:17,280 You want to look good, 90 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:19,480 cos you're going to be leading from the front. 91 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:21,480 You want everyone to know that the King's there. 92 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:23,480 In that time, war was a glorious thing, 93 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:24,720 so you wanted to be seen. 94 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:26,520 You had to be seen. Yes. Not like today. 95 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:28,480 War's had a bit of a bad press lately. 96 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:30,000 THEY LAUGH. 97 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:33,120 So, you, sir, are kitted up. 98 00:04:37,840 --> 00:04:41,240 Yeah, I'm going to go and take what the Lord has promised me. 99 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:46,240 Let's kill some English. 100 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:50,960 King Harold was shot in the eye - 101 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:52,920 possibly the first person in Hastings to die 102 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:55,160 with a needle hanging out of his eyeball, 103 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:56,560 but not the last. 104 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:02,000 At the end of the battle, Harold was mutilated by William's men 105 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:04,400 and the dead English soldiers were stripped naked 106 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:06,680 in one of the most deeply erotic things 107 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:08,320 ever to happen on these shores. 108 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:23,120 This is Odo's house. 109 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:25,200 Odo was William the Conqueror's half-brother? 110 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:26,280 Yeah. 111 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:30,080 He is basically the boss who does all of the work, 112 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:33,000 and so that's the sort of the thing that you want to keep in the family 113 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:34,320 because you've got to make sure 114 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:36,280 you've got an eye on where the money's going. 115 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:37,736 This is the great hall of the house, 116 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:39,520 and it makes me want to have a great hall. 117 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:41,120 SHE LAUGHS It makes me, like, you know, 118 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:43,680 want to have, like, on Rightmove, an option where you can go... 119 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:44,720 "Great hall". 120 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:46,280 THEY LAUGH. 121 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:47,520 William the Conqueror, 122 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:50,280 he comes over, as everybody knows, in 1066. 123 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:53,840 Mm-hm. Kills a bunch of people at Hastings... Yeah. 124 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:57,840 ..and then sort of divvies up their lands to his aristos. 125 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:00,360 So, you know, one of the things they were very, very good at 126 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:01,880 is actually record keeping, right? 127 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:04,360 So, that's how you get the Doomsday Book. 128 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:06,400 You go through it with a fine tooth comb, 129 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:09,000 see every sheep, you know, like, every little village, 130 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:10,800 every little thing, write that down, 131 00:06:10,840 --> 00:06:13,040 and then it tells you how much money you can extract. 132 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:14,960 And they did a great job of that. 133 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:17,120 William says, "I'm going to extract all the taxes." 134 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:19,320 You just put these people all throughout the country, 135 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:20,880 make sure they're collecting money, 136 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:23,000 and then send it back to where he's living it large. 137 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:26,000 So, would you say William is the most important King of England 138 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:28,760 because he kind of sets the ball rolling? 139 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:30,080 Yeah, I would say so. 140 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:32,320 The thing about William is he's the one 141 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:35,160 who really sort of sets up the monarchy as we know it. 142 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:36,360 He's the one who says, 143 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:38,280 "The way that kingship works in England 144 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:40,600 "is that I give things to my friend, 145 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:42,080 "we own all the land, 146 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:43,560 "this is how it works." 147 00:06:46,840 --> 00:06:49,720 We can see the unique quality William possessed was his ability 148 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:51,440 to see the position of the monarch 149 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:54,440 as primarily about the extraction of revenue - 150 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:56,000 a noble tradition that our royals, 151 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:59,640 the world's largest landowners, at about 6.6 million acres, 152 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:01,440 continue to this day. 153 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:07,760 So, this is Regent Street, 154 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:11,320 and this is owned by the Crown Estates. 155 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:12,960 It's owned by the King. 156 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:15,600 It's developed into some of the most expensive real estate 157 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:16,800 on the planet. 158 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,560 They get more from their flagship Apple store 159 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:24,120 than they get from all of the farmland that they own. 160 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:26,680 They own a bunch of, like, shopping centres and...? 161 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:31,320 Shopping centres, retail parks, huge amounts of farmland. 162 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:33,360 And there's the famous quote, isn't there, 163 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:35,520 from the Duke of Westminster, 164 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:38,640 the late Duke of Westminster, when he was asked, 165 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:41,120 "How would you get ahead in England?" 166 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:44,640 He said, "My advice would be to have an ancestor 167 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:47,320 "who's a close friend of William the Conqueror." Yes. Yes. 168 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:48,840 And there's land in England... 169 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:50,880 So, we have the famous statistic in Scotland 170 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:54,120 where 400 people own half of the land in Scotland. Yes. Yeah. 171 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:56,520 But it's very concentrated in England as well, isn't it? 172 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:58,480 It's hugely concentrated. Hugely unequal. 173 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:00,960 It's probably not quite as unequal as it is in Scotland, 174 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:03,760 but still about 1% of the population 175 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:05,280 own half of the land in England. 176 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:06,320 Wow. 177 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:08,880 But, like, the aristocracy is kind of quantifiable, isn't it? 178 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:10,800 There's maybe, like, a couple of thousand... 179 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:13,520 Yeah. ..Titles in England? Exactly, yeah. Yeah. 180 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:15,680 About 2,000 people who are in members 181 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:18,200 of the peerage or baronetage, 182 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:21,480 and then they own about 30% of England. 183 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:24,040 30%? 30% of England. Still! 184 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:27,000 It's like Monopoly, isn't it? Yeah. It is exactly like Monopoly. 185 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:31,200 And yet the other thing William the Conqueror did was 186 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:32,680 he formed the Royal Forest, 187 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:37,360 so then there was, like, a whole swathe of land in England 188 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:39,120 that was for the King to hunt in, 189 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:42,240 and if you... Yeah. ..if you hunted there, 190 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:43,800 you would be mutilated. 191 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:45,680 You'd have your hands chopped off. Yes. Yes. 192 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:48,000 Yeah, eyes gouged out, I think, in some of the records 193 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:50,760 of what would have happened, what would have been the punishment. 194 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:54,920 The Grosvenor family, that dates back as a nickname 195 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:58,720 to Hugh "Le Grand Veneur" - "The Fat Hunter", 196 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:00,440 who was one of the Norman barons 197 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:02,120 who came over with William the Conqueror 198 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:03,320 during the Norman Conquest. 199 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:06,640 "The Fat Hunter". "The Fat Hunter". THEY LAUGH. 200 00:09:06,680 --> 00:09:09,560 Didn't want to get your eyes gouged out by the Fat Hunter. 201 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:26,600 There have always been royal scandals. 202 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:29,560 Last year, Prince Andrew was stripped of his royal titles, 203 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:31,880 though he remains a trustee of his favourite charity, 204 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:34,520 Happy Finish, which gives work opportunities 205 00:09:34,560 --> 00:09:37,320 to young people in the field of what might broadly be described 206 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:39,400 as physiotherapy. 207 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:42,200 Richard III in many ways set the tone 208 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:44,520 for what would become the modern British monarchy - 209 00:09:44,560 --> 00:09:47,600 a child-sacrificing cult of violent ruthless ambition 210 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:50,160 which the British public is happy to tolerate in exchange 211 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:52,000 for a long bank holiday. 212 00:09:53,680 --> 00:09:55,960 Richard's reputation suffered over the years 213 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,000 because he was portrayed by Shakespeare 214 00:09:58,040 --> 00:09:59,680 as a murderous hunchbacked villain, 215 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:02,600 as opposed to a statutory rapist like Romeo, 216 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:05,640 or, like a character in one of his light-hearted comedies, 217 00:10:05,680 --> 00:10:07,000 a donkey fucker. 218 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:17,280 Here is the Royal Shakespeare Theatre. 219 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:18,920 Amazing. 220 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:22,440 Richard III, it's one of the largest roles 221 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:25,120 in the entire Shakespearian canon. 222 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:28,240 It's also a fantastically charismatic part 223 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:30,400 because we love a villain. 224 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:34,880 So, a lot of great actors have played Richard III, 225 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:36,640 a lot of great actors have been drawn to it. 226 00:10:36,680 --> 00:10:40,200 It isn't fact of how do you play the disability. 227 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:43,120 Do you play, you know, the hunchback, 228 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:44,920 the "bunch-backed toad"? 229 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:47,200 So, famously, Tony Sher, 230 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:52,120 my other half, in 1984, played him with crutches. 231 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:54,520 He said, you know, "If I had two crutches 232 00:10:54,560 --> 00:10:56,760 "and these funny, long hanging sleeves, 233 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:58,920 "then I'm almost a spider," you know. 234 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:00,720 Plots have I laid... 235 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:03,600 That was such a massive thing. I mean, I can remember that. 236 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:05,920 So, never been to the theatre in my life, 237 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:07,400 12 years old or something, 238 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:09,080 living in a tenement in Glasgow, 239 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:13,120 I knew that he... a guy was playing Richard III on crutches, 240 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:14,960 and it was a big sensation. It was. 241 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:21,120 The Richard III Society wanted to rehabilitate 242 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:23,560 the reputation of Richard as a good king. 243 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:25,680 Amazingly, they discovered his body 244 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:28,360 underneath the car park in Leicester... 245 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:34,240 ..and then discovered this skeleton with scoliosis, 246 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:38,080 which must have meant that the man was in considerable pain. 247 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:41,760 And that was really interesting to me, 248 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:44,200 because the real Richard III, 249 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:46,840 I don't know that the man was a good man. 250 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:49,240 I don't know that any medieval king frankly was... 251 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:51,360 HE CHUCKLES ..was necessarily good, 252 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:56,120 but we recognise tyranny through the template of Richard III. 253 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:03,760 An American Shakespeare scholar called Stephen Greenblatt 254 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:07,760 wrote a book about Richard III and all Shakespeare's tyrants. 255 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:10,560 Uh, he never mentions the words "Donald Trump", 256 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:13,000 but it's clearly virtually a biography of Donald Trump. 257 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:15,400 Yeah. I've read that book - Tyrant. Tyrant. Yeah, yeah. 258 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:18,920 Because he sort of analyses Richard's character 259 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:23,960 and says, "Here is a man manifestly unfit to govern. 260 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:27,720 "He's a narcissist who has enablers around him." 261 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:32,960 He said, you know, in a way, it is exactly the same with Putin, 262 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:35,840 with somebody who is indifferent to truth. 263 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:39,320 And Shakespeare is asking those very same questions, um, 264 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:43,800 about how we let ourselves be ruled by leaders 265 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:46,160 who become despotic. 266 00:12:48,680 --> 00:12:50,440 Richard III appointed himself 267 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:53,520 the 12-year-old Edward V's Lord Protector. 268 00:12:53,560 --> 00:12:55,760 He took an unusual approach to the role, 269 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:58,160 protecting the king by locking him in the Tower of London 270 00:12:58,200 --> 00:12:59,720 and murdering him. 271 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:03,000 Of course, I can't prove Richard III murdered his nephews, 272 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:05,800 but in 1674, workmen in the Tower of London 273 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:09,240 dug up a box containing two small human skeletons. 274 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:11,120 To be fair, they could be anyone. 275 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:13,920 The Tower of London is basically the monarchy's equivalent 276 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:16,760 of Fred West's patio, but then I'm not a historian, 277 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:18,320 so I don't need to prove anything. 278 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:21,080 I could tell you that Henry V invented the fidget spinner 279 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:24,080 and the worst my producer will do is tut. 280 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:35,000 That's 550 years of layers of stuff. 281 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:37,760 He was down here, and Leicester just happened on top of him. 282 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:39,440 HE LAUGHS. 283 00:13:43,560 --> 00:13:45,840 I'm always keen to learn about DNA, 284 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:48,840 mainly how not to leave it at my crime scenes, 285 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:50,360 so I went to Leicester University 286 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:52,800 to ask professor of genetics Turi King 287 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:56,720 how they used DNA to identify Richard's body. 288 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:58,960 This looks like a crime scene investigation... Yeah. 289 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:00,680 ..just 500 years late. 290 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:03,880 So, Richard's got 11 injuries on him. 291 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:06,360 He's got that one on the very top of his head. 292 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:08,040 And if you look at the CT scans, 293 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:10,800 there's little flaps of bone on the inside 294 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:12,680 but it's not gone all the way through. 295 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:15,200 Done with something like a rondel dagger. 296 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:17,000 That would have made him feel really woozy, 297 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:18,520 but that wouldn't have killed him. 298 00:14:18,560 --> 00:14:20,520 The ones that have killed him are these. 299 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:22,800 So, that's the base of his skull. 300 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:25,160 That's where your spinal column goes up. 301 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:28,520 He's got seven centimetres of brain exposed. 302 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:30,200 It's horrific, isn't it? It's horrific. 303 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:32,080 It's... It's medieval warfare. 304 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:34,520 I mean, I know it's really brutal, medieval warfare, 305 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:38,480 but at the same time, he's an anointed King of England. 306 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:39,920 This is pretty unusual, isn't it, 307 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:42,760 that someone would be executed on the battlefield? 308 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:46,440 So, there is a story about how he is stripped naked 309 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:48,520 and he's flung over the back of a horse, 310 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:52,200 and then humiliations are heaped upon the body. 311 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:54,960 Of course, that's a perfect opportunity for somebody 312 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:57,440 to potentially take a sword or a dagger and do that. 313 00:14:57,480 --> 00:14:59,040 This is just men, isn't it? 314 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:01,080 This is like... This is what happened to Gaddafi. 315 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:02,520 It's... It's... 316 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:04,800 The interesting thing is his face. 317 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:09,080 So, quite often what would happen in battles is they would, um, 318 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:11,240 destroy the face so people aren't recognised. 319 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:12,840 They didn't do this with Richard. 320 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:14,520 Because they need to show him and say, 321 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:16,920 "This is the King. We killed him." Exactly. Exactly. 322 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:23,200 Presumably, this was a really big deal for Leicester? 323 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:25,120 It was massive. 324 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:30,200 I suppose the appeal of monarchy, the British monarchy, 325 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:32,600 is one of the most famous things in the world. Absolutely. 326 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:35,040 But also he was one of the worst... the most famous ones... 327 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:36,400 Him and Henry VIII... I know. 328 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:38,720 ..are just the absolute worst ones. Yeah, yeah. 329 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:42,160 I found it really fascinating, 330 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:45,840 because obviously with the genetic analysis, I have had... 331 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:47,160 I mean, I get them now. 332 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:49,320 I get several a week even now, it's ten years later, 333 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:51,960 people saying, "I think I'm related to Richard III. 334 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:54,040 "Can you test my DNA and prove that?" 335 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:55,120 HE LAUGHS. 336 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:57,160 And I have to say to them, "Look, you know, 337 00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:58,880 "it's been estimated that there are between 338 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:01,120 "one and 17 million people alive today 339 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:03,680 "who are descended from his immediate family." 340 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:07,920 We're all related to each other, and we're all related to royalty. 341 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:10,680 I just... I just think as a message, it's just brilliant, 342 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:13,040 that idea of we're all related to each other... Yeah. 343 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:14,840 ..and we're all related to royalty. Yeah. 344 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:17,400 That should be the new sort of "Live, laugh, love"... Exactly. 345 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:19,280 SHE LAUGHS ..on every fridge.There you go. 346 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:37,280 King for two years, 347 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:39,760 partly because there was a recession. 348 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:41,240 A couple of years of recession, 349 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:43,600 then suddenly getting your head chopped off, 350 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:45,480 and you're buried under a car park - 351 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:49,000 something that our modern leaders might like to bear in mind. 352 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:01,120 In 1996, the divorce of Charles and Diana shook the monarchy 353 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:03,120 to its foundations in hell. 354 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:06,200 Prince Charles went on to marry Camilla Parker Bowles, 355 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:08,640 although they never had any children because, sadly, 356 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:10,640 their two species can't interbreed. 357 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:14,480 And yet, still the most famous royal divorcee is King Henry VIII. 358 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:17,840 Henry VIII is what many of us picture 359 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:19,480 when we think of a king - 360 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:22,160 a fat, shiny murderer in women's tights. 361 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:23,640 Henry was a keen hunter, 362 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:26,840 and judging from his portraits, he mainly hunted cheese. 363 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:29,480 Henry was a big believer in the divine right of kings 364 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:31,960 to rule absolutely, marry who they chose, 365 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:34,640 or promote their own range of delicious shortbread. 366 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:37,160 If our monarchy has been chosen by God, 367 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:40,640 he must have been looking down on some pretty cloudy days. 368 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:44,480 He married six women in a frenzied royal game 369 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:48,520 of shag, marry, kill, and the answer was often all three. 370 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:59,520 Here we are. Oh, my God. This is incredible. 371 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:04,680 People sort of view his relationship with Anne Boleyn 372 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:09,280 as the transition kind of from the younger Henry 373 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:12,160 into I think the despotic tyrant. 374 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:13,880 Bloated, paranoid maniac. 375 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:15,480 Yeah, that. That. Mostly that. 376 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:17,720 Anne Boleyn. The woman of the hour. 377 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:20,120 Yeah. Smart, charismatic. 378 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:23,840 If not conventionally beautiful by the standards of the time, 379 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:27,360 then making up for it in charm and wit. 380 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:30,680 In just a few short years, he annulled his marriage, 381 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:31,880 married this woman - 382 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:35,040 who was only the second commoner ever elevated to Queen - 383 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:37,000 and then beheaded her. 384 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:38,040 Yes. Yeah. 385 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:39,160 And he was... 386 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:42,040 He was maybe just touching 40 when he married her. 387 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:43,400 Yeah. He was in his early forties 388 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:45,056 when they were actually able to get married. 389 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:47,080 And then by the time he has her executed, 390 00:18:47,120 --> 00:18:48,760 he's, like, 45, is he? Yeah. 391 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:51,680 I think that's very mid-life-crisis stuff. 392 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:54,080 I mean, if you're, from the time you're born, 393 00:18:54,120 --> 00:18:56,120 told that you're God's vessel on Earth 394 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:58,240 and that your will is the will of God, 395 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:00,280 how can you not be a narcissist, really? 396 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:02,800 Yeah. And he really believed in the divine right of kings. 397 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:05,560 He might have been one of the only people in the country 398 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:09,160 who actually believed in it, but he did explicitly believe in it. 399 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:12,800 Maybe that's not a healthy way to live or view yourself. 400 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:19,120 So, this is, um, the bed chamber, where the magic happened. 401 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:20,520 This is where... Allegedly. 402 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:21,760 Allegedly happened. Yeah. 403 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:24,840 Beautiful view underneath the ceiling. 404 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:28,040 I think Anne Boleyn quite intelligently 405 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:30,520 or cleverly realised that as a king, 406 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:33,040 he was used to getting everything he wanted immediately, 407 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:35,520 and it would sort of be new and exciting 408 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:37,360 to have something denied, 409 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:39,560 and realised that if she played her hand right, 410 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:41,520 she could become Queen of England. 411 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:42,760 And I mean, she did. 412 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:46,680 It was a brilliant play. I mean, for me, no notes, well done. 413 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:48,720 HE LAUGHS And if she had a son, 414 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:51,000 I think the story would have ended differently. 415 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:53,560 The point at which he executes Anne Boleyn, 416 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:56,120 and just sends her away and doesn't see her... 417 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:59,040 So, he's presented with evidence, and he just says, "OK, kill her." 418 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:00,760 I mean, it's absolutely shocking. 419 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:04,280 Beheading a sovereign queen is, I mean, a mad thing to do 420 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:06,000 in the context of the time. 421 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:07,960 I mean, it's a mad thing to do now. 422 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:09,080 HE LAUGHS. 423 00:20:09,120 --> 00:20:12,000 Imagine anyone having the authority to execute their own wife. 424 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:15,280 And from then, he gets progressively worse, 425 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:17,160 and the wives come quicker. 426 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:20,160 Quicker, and the executions come more easy. 427 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:21,960 I think, you know, after the first one... 428 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:23,040 It's like tattoos - 429 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:25,840 after you get one, you just want to keep getting them. HE LAUGHS. 430 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:29,600 Henry was, by the end of his life, incredibly irrational, 431 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:33,800 and his moods would affect situations more than his reason. 432 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:36,960 And I think that is one of the main arguments 433 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:41,240 against a monarchy having authoritarian power in a country, 434 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:46,640 is that an individual's whims and moods have global consequences. 435 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:48,080 Yes, it's not good, is it? 436 00:20:48,120 --> 00:20:50,800 No, it's objectively bad, I think we can say. 437 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:52,080 I mean, in America, 438 00:20:52,120 --> 00:20:54,160 it's bad enough when a president's whims 439 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:55,760 and moods have global consequences, 440 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:58,160 but at least we can get rid of them after a few years. 441 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:00,040 Yeah. You're talking about assassination? 442 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:01,720 Oh... THEY LAUGH. 443 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:10,400 Henry was a narcissist, 444 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:14,120 famous for multiple wives and children he paid no attention to. 445 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:15,560 Dead end. 446 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:17,520 And he understood something 447 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:19,600 that our current monarchy has learned well - 448 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:22,320 you can never be too ruthless. 449 00:21:22,360 --> 00:21:24,560 Henry VIII is one of the few husbands. 450 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:26,720 Johnny Depp can feel superior to. 451 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:29,640 Only England could watch a man abuse six different women 452 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:32,240 and think, "Maybe every schoolchild should learn a rhyme 453 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:34,160 "to remember how he did it." 454 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:36,160 Henry also invented modern divorce, 455 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:38,960 and so it's his fault that you're watching this at home, 456 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:41,000 alone and unloved. 457 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:44,120 Locked gate. 458 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:48,640 HE CHUCKLES. 459 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,400 Princess Diana's funeral in 1997 460 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:05,160 was watched by a staggering 2.5 billion people worldwide, 461 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:08,640 eclipsing even Meghan Markle's funeral in 2024. 462 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:10,480 In many ways, it's extraordinary to think 463 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:12,800 that if Diana had only survived that car crash, 464 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,960 she would have gone on to live a relaxed and happy six months 465 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:19,680 before being thrown out of a hotel window in a staged suicide. 466 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,320 Which brings us to Lady Jane Grey... 467 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:28,280 ..a young woman who illustrates a quality 468 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:30,160 seen in the monarchy throughout history - 469 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,280 it's unshakeable misogyny. 470 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:35,640 Jane was just a teenager when she was deposed and executed. 471 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:37,840 Of course, nowadays, if you heard about a teenage girl 472 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:40,280 being killed by the royals, you might be tempted to assume 473 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:42,880 she was some kind of witness for the prosecution. 474 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,280 Perhaps the misogyny of royalty is inevitable, 475 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:47,920 given that the principal role they see women as performing 476 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:49,880 is one of child-bearing. 477 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:51,200 During the birth of Edward, 478 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:54,480 Henry VIII was told that both mother and child were in danger. 479 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,120 He replied, "If you cannot save them both, 480 00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:01,040 "at least let the child live, for other wives are easily found." 481 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:02,520 Quite the birth plan. 482 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:10,960 So, we're on the Thames, 483 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:12,680 we're in a little Tudor barge, 484 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,080 and this is how Lady Jane Grey would have travelled down 485 00:23:15,120 --> 00:23:17,200 to the Tower of London first... Exactly. 486 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,520 ..when she was made Queen. Yeah. 487 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:21,920 10th of July 1553, 488 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:26,000 Jane leaves on a barge like this, never to return again. 489 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,600 And how long was she Queen for? Cos some people say nine days. 490 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:32,600 I say 13 days, yeah, because she was Queen 491 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:36,200 from the moment that Edward VI died on the 6th of July. 492 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:37,760 That would be my argument. 493 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:40,520 Others would argue that she was Queen 494 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:42,760 from the day that she was proclaimed, 495 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:44,160 which was four days later. Mm. 496 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:46,000 Much of a muchness really, isn't it? 497 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,960 Much of a muchness. Not a great innings... No. 498 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:52,000 ..either way.No. THEY LAUGH. 499 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,560 And Jane actually talks about the fact 500 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:56,360 that she never wanted the throne, 501 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,800 and that she had been pushed into it. 502 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:00,160 And the Duke of Northumberland, 503 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,800 he was Lady Jane Grey's father-in-law... Yeah. 504 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:05,040 ..and he decided he'd install her. 505 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,360 This was a massive gamble, wasn't it? Yeah. 506 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,520 The throne is a really, really bloody inheritance, 507 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:15,800 and, yes, it can lead to glory, but it can also lead to disaster. 508 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:22,360 Kevin, you're making a sword here. 509 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:25,160 I mean, yeah. We don't get to make swords too much, 510 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:26,600 unless I'm making one for myself. 511 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:27,800 FRANKIE LAUGHS. 512 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,360 But the real key is you don't want to make it too hot 513 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:32,680 because you start burning the carbon out, 514 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:34,760 and we're trying to keep the carbon in 515 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:38,080 because that's the thing that allows it to have a sharp edge 516 00:24:38,120 --> 00:24:40,240 and to hold a sharp edge. 517 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:43,320 So, very occasionally when they'd have people executed, 518 00:24:43,360 --> 00:24:44,840 they'd use a swordsman. 519 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:46,840 This was the nice way to go out, wasn't it? 520 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:48,840 If you've got a swordsman, you were probably... 521 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:50,200 ..you were probably a noble, 522 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,800 and presumably, that was a much nicer way to die 523 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:54,480 than... than the axe. 524 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:55,880 Well, yeah. 525 00:24:55,920 --> 00:25:00,200 I mean, the thing is, um, the axe that I think they used 526 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,720 at the Tower of London at that time 527 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:04,720 was not really a head-taking axe. 528 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:05,920 Right. 529 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,920 From what I could tell, it was a tree-felling axe, 530 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,600 which is completely the wrong tool for, uh... 531 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:12,896 ..for doing something like that. 532 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:14,640 It's not how you want to go out, is it, 533 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:16,040 on the end of a tree-felling axe? 534 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:19,480 There are some... some terrifying accounts 535 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:21,680 of people being executed. 536 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:23,800 If you're going to take someone's head, 537 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:27,400 you need to have it parallel to the ground like that. 538 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:30,320 And then what you're going to do is you're going to come right up 539 00:25:30,360 --> 00:25:34,040 and then bring it down hard, half dropping it, 540 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:37,480 pulling with your left hand as well as pushing with your right. 541 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,400 And of course, there's the follow-through. 542 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:40,840 So, as the head comes off, 543 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:44,160 the axe passes right in front of you like that. 544 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,360 There's no way you want to stand like this. 545 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:49,760 It's almost like a reverse golf swing. Presumably... 546 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:54,520 She was sentenced to be beheaded, 547 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,280 and this took place on the 12th of February 548 00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,440 in the confines of the Tower of London. 549 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,560 And for her actual execution, she was blindfolded 550 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:04,520 and she couldn't find the block. Yeah. 551 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,840 And genuine panic set in, and she cried out, 552 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,320 "What shall I do? Where is it?" 553 00:26:10,360 --> 00:26:12,200 And fortunately for her, 554 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:16,840 there was a sympathetic onlooker who guided her hands to the block, 555 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,920 allowing her to compose herself once more. 556 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:21,880 God, it's so grim, isn't it? It's really grim. 557 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,320 Even now to think about it, it's so grim. Yeah. 558 00:26:24,360 --> 00:26:29,200 I mean, this girl, let's not forget, she was probably 17 years old. 559 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,520 Suddenly, she is going to die, 560 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:35,640 and she has to prepare herself for that, mentally and physically. 561 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:37,760 And it's extraordinary, really, 562 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,360 that she did so in such a courageous way. 563 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,400 And, yeah, she laid her head down on the block, 564 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:44,960 she cried out, 565 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:48,560 "Lord Jesus, into thy hands I commend my spirit," 566 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:50,040 and that was it. 567 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:51,840 It was all over with one chop. 568 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,360 Because Lady Jane was so young when she was Queen, 569 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,840 no portraits survived from her lifetime. 570 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,440 It was rumoured that there was one in Buckingham Palace, 571 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,440 but the paint ran when Prince Andrew ejaculated on it. 572 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,200 The royal family operate on a symbolic level. 573 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,800 The royals are a bit like the nation's football mascots, 574 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:24,440 with the slight difference that inside a football mascot, 575 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,400 there's a real human being. 576 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:29,240 Every royal coat of arms is richly symbolic. 577 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,360 For example, before he became King, Prince Charles's crest 578 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:36,680 showed a lion mounting another lion while a horse looks patiently on, 579 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:40,280 whereas the Duke of York's shows a lion paying £12 million 580 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:44,280 to a sex-trafficked lion cub that the lion claims it never met. 581 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:47,240 And from Queen Elizabeth I, 582 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,560 today's royals learned a valuable lesson - 583 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,280 understand your own symbolic function. 584 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,080 Elizabeth, in a time of conflict 585 00:27:54,120 --> 00:27:56,200 between Catholicism and Protestantism, 586 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,160 understood that by presenting herself 587 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,920 as a sort of Virgin Mary incarnate, she could dilute those tensions. 588 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,400 And indeed, she went on to shape the worship that took place 589 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:05,720 in the Anglican church, 590 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:08,600 creating a sort of Catholicism for pussies. 591 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,200 Elizabeth chose not to have children. 592 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,040 Indeed, we can't be sure if Elizabeth ever had sex, 593 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:19,080 unlike the current King Charles who has two sons, William and Harry, 594 00:28:19,120 --> 00:28:22,840 so we can be sure he's had sex at least once. 595 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,800 Elizabeth I proved a monarch could rule 596 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:36,480 not just by force or dynasty, but by cult of personality. 597 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,240 The Maritime Museum in Greenwich, they were given 598 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,600 one of the Armada portraits of Elizabeth I, 599 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,920 and they commissioned me to make a piece of work. 600 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:50,160 I just wanted to just physically embody, um, 601 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:53,160 what would it feel like to wear that much clothing, 602 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:56,160 which is essentially like a walking jewellery box, isn't it? 603 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,560 It's like, "Hey, look at everything I own. 604 00:28:58,600 --> 00:28:59,880 "Look how rich I am." 605 00:28:59,920 --> 00:29:01,320 It's pure swag, isn't it? 606 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:05,120 It's pure sort of, like, power, you know, the victor. 607 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,840 And there's the Spanish Armada burning in the background... Yeah. 608 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:09,960 ..and there's Elizabeth, and as I remember... 609 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,160 With a fag, going... FRANKIE LAUGHS 610 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,680 ..Elizabeth has her hand on a globe, 611 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:16,240 and her hand's on America. 612 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,120 Yeah. She's like, "Mine. I want this." 613 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:20,520 Cos Elizabeth I, 614 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,200 she had a strong idea of herself as a symbol, didn't she? 615 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,080 So, she was "the Virgin Queen". Yeah. 616 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,480 Just as, like, they got rid of Catholicism, she was like, 617 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:28,800 "Well, you could worship me." 618 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,240 "I'm a bit Virgin Mary. Look at me." FRANKIE LAUGHS. 619 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,240 And there's the power and the vulnerability, 620 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,200 cos she was this target for assassination. 621 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,760 The Pope said, I think from 1570, "Look, if you want to, kill her." 622 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:40,080 Yeah. Open season. Yeah. 623 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,440 And there were all these plots against her. 624 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,680 And yet, she'd go out on these progresses, 625 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,320 so they did a couple of dozen of those 626 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,000 where they just went round the country 627 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:51,160 kind of waving at people. 628 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,360 And that's what... that's what I wanted to recreate. 629 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,160 Well, she must have felt incredibly vulnerable. 630 00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:58,480 Yeah. 631 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,440 How did people react to that when you did it? 632 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:02,760 Oh, the... 633 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,960 ..the range of responses was amazing. 634 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,920 It ranged from, "I know who you are. I know who you are. 635 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:10,400 "You're Queen Victoria." 636 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:12,760 FRANKIE LAUGHS And I'd go... 637 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:14,720 Because of course, I wasn't speaking. 638 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:21,840 No-one can get close to me. 639 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,520 It's social distancing before we knew that term. 640 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,320 What, they can't get close to you because of the size of the clothes? 641 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:28,720 Physically can't get close, 642 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:30,880 so it's like you're weirdly protected. 643 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:32,880 It seems to me like a great emblem 644 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:36,760 of what royalty is, which is it's an incredible prison, 645 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,120 but incredibly gorgeous and luxurious 646 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,600 and lavish at the same time. 647 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:43,160 She survived a long time, 648 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,560 and that's why she's really fascinating, I think. 649 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:47,016 And one of the things she did was... 650 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,480 Because she constructed this image of power, 651 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:51,400 and that's what I was really interested... 652 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:52,680 Like, what does it cost you 653 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,360 to construct this amazing thing that says, 654 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,080 "Look at me. I am rich. I am in charge. 655 00:30:58,120 --> 00:30:59,960 "I've just defeated the enemy. 656 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,200 "Here's a picture of it in case you've forgotten." 657 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:05,440 You know, that's what she's doing with this constructing of an icon, 658 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,360 but she's having to do it within a human body 659 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:09,840 and what does that give you. 660 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:13,320 She was in that unique position of trying to work out 661 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,480 how to have power and keep hold of power 662 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:16,800 whilst being a woman. 663 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:18,840 So, she was doing both things. 664 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,800 "If I am symbolically important enough, then I can survive." 665 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:26,200 For me, the key is this thing about being silent. 666 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,240 There's something about what's happened 667 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,040 with monarchy since the '50s 668 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,000 where they've kind of started talking more, 669 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,120 and I think there's a really interesting question 670 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:35,440 of, like, "Do we want that? 671 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:37,320 "Do we want them to talk?" FRANKIE LAUGHS. 672 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,360 Maybe they've struggled in the information age 673 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,480 because it's harder for them to obfuscate how much power they have 674 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,240 and how much money they have. Absolutely. 675 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,000 Maybe that's where they've gone wrong, 676 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:47,240 the current monarchy. 677 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:48,640 I think the present royal family 678 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:50,680 should go back to, "Just smile. Nod." 679 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,520 The younger members haven't really got that memo. 680 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,640 And how could they? Because it's deeply weird. 681 00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:58,920 Whoa! 682 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,800 This is a replica of the Golden Hinde, 683 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:17,920 one of Francis Drake's ships, 684 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,760 and this ship is a tourist attraction. 685 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:23,080 When I was growing up, like, at school, 686 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:26,800 they taught us about Francis Drake, and he was an adventurer. 687 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,520 When you look into it, he was a lot worse than that. 688 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,960 Francis Drake was a slave trader. 689 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:36,440 Elizabeth I invested in that. 690 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,360 We have an image of Elizabeth 691 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,200 that's far removed from that, don't we? 692 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,960 We have a very sort of comic book idea of her 693 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:44,920 as this, you know, "the Virgin Queen". 694 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:48,280 So, it is a big part of how history's taught in Britain. 695 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:53,520 This history that is presented as just glorious and inspiring 696 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:59,160 is actually something that is also dark and corrupt as well. 697 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,960 I guess, like, in that period, the Spanish were accumulating 698 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:07,400 such massive kind of unimaginable wealth 699 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:09,640 through their colonies in South America, 700 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,400 and England was, at that stage, you know, 701 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,440 kind of like a real bit player, like, in the game, 702 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:17,800 and wanted to... wanted to get in on the action. 703 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:19,960 They needed labour, and that, 704 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,360 a source of that labour, you know, was from... 705 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:23,760 ..was from kidnapped Africans. 706 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,760 And people in Elizabethan England were very quick to get in on that 707 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,000 because it was very profitable. Mm-hm. 708 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:30,880 Elizabeth invested money in it, 709 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:35,840 and apparently, she made so much money from the first project 710 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,800 that she endorsed that she paid off the national debt. 711 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:42,800 It's quite easy to, um, like, kind of... 712 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:46,600 ..to kind of recast the origins of that wealth, 713 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,240 and people will be dazzled, you know, 714 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,280 by the kind of opulence and the kind of, like, 715 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:53,360 glitz and glamour of it all, so... 716 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:57,400 And in Queen Elizabeth I's time, they wouldn't have had any problem 717 00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,440 with the idea of enslavement, generally. 718 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:06,400 The kind of notions that we have of race today didn't yet exist. 719 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,680 Queen Elizabeth is certainly, and Francis Drake, 720 00:34:09,720 --> 00:34:14,880 are setting the wheels in motion for the kind of invention of race... 721 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:22,000 ..that need to justify the enslavement of African people 722 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,920 whose labour is going to be needed to exploit the land 723 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:26,480 to the benefit of this country. 724 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,360 And Elizabeth I, she kind of dipped her toe in the water 725 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,080 of colonialism and slavery. 726 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:34,400 Does that then necessitate the idea of race? 727 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:38,360 Central to that dynamic is this idea of, like, a white superiority 728 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:42,120 and a black inferiority, and they are actually, you know, 729 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:46,400 kind of doing them a favour by taking them from Africa 730 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:51,560 and bringing them to civilisation, and, you know, introducing them 731 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:55,200 to both civilisation and Christianity. 732 00:34:55,240 --> 00:34:57,320 So, one of the strong motivations 733 00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:01,400 behind these concepts of blackness and whiteness 734 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,920 is the justification of the... of the transatlantic slave trade. 735 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:06,480 I always think if Britain was a person, 736 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:08,480 you'd sort of recommend therapy, wouldn't you? 737 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:10,240 SHE LAUGHS Cos you're like... 738 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,320 At the very least. THEY LAUGH. 739 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,840 "Remember all that stuff you did? You've never really apologised." 740 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,520 Queen Victoria, in many ways, set the template 741 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,120 for the current monarchy as a PR operation. 742 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:38,720 As the job of monarch itself declined in real political power, 743 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,840 she recast it in the public mind as a domestic scene, 744 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:43,320 as a royal family. 745 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:44,960 She understood that the fear 746 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,120 and awe inspired by earlier kings and queens 747 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:49,080 could be translated into affection, 748 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:52,200 and that this meant you could keep all this stuff. 749 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:55,840 At Victoria's coronation, 750 00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,800 some 400,000 people thronged the streets. 751 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:02,120 Charles is hoping to emulate this by coinciding his coronation 752 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:03,720 with a cost of living riot. 753 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,800 The coronation will be a deeply uninspiring affair. 754 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,440 Charles is keen to avoid having any royals at the ceremony 755 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,320 who might cause a public embarrassment, 756 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:14,240 so he's thinking of banning Andrew, Harry, and himself. 757 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:17,000 It's rumoured that the coronation is going to be so low-key 758 00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:20,800 that they'll forego the traditional behind-closed-doors human sacrifice. 759 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,720 Instead, they'll save money by simply running over a game keeper 760 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:24,920 in a Land Rover. 761 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:28,920 Almost immediately after being crowned, 762 00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:30,840 Queen Victoria fell in love with Albert. 763 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,920 In her diary, she describes him as "extremely handsome, 764 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:35,320 "eyes large and blue, 765 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:38,240 "and had a beautiful nose and a very sweet mouth". 766 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,320 It seems that despite all her education, 767 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:43,080 she simply didn't know the word "face". 768 00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:47,040 Queen Victoria gave birth to her eighth child using chloroform. 769 00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:51,280 Nowadays, royal family members are more likely to use it to conceive. 770 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:54,160 Victoria suffered serious postnatal depression. 771 00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:56,920 During her depression, she hallucinated spots in her eyes 772 00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:58,200 that turned to worms. 773 00:36:58,240 --> 00:36:59,600 Fearing she was losing her mind, 774 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,760 Albert took her to Scotland, where she would blend in. 775 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,040 Victoria had her first sight of Scotland 776 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,120 after arriving by ship at Leith. 777 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:10,760 If ever a 4'11" woman with nine kids and clinical depression 778 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:14,120 was going to feel at home, it was going to be in Leith. 779 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,360 Despite being the world's most powerful woman, 780 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,120 society during Queen Victoria's reign 781 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,760 treated women with a level of contempt and disregard 782 00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,760 rarely seen outside a Met Police WhatsApp group. 783 00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:39,720 But in some ways, there was, like, a culture war going on 784 00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:41,040 in Victorian England, 785 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:45,920 where there was a huge culture of vice and debauchery and drinking 786 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,800 and gentlemen's clubs and commercial sex. 787 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,400 And there was a big class element to the sex work, wasn't there? 788 00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:53,120 Cos it's mostly working-class women, 789 00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:57,240 and a lot of the clients are upper-class or middle-class men. 790 00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:58,400 Depends on where you are. 791 00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:02,200 Here in sort of Mayfair, Piccadilly, 792 00:38:02,240 --> 00:38:05,720 you see these pictures from kind of mid-Victorian London 793 00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:09,240 where Regent Street is just lined with questionable women 794 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:12,400 talking to kind of upper-class toffs. 795 00:38:18,240 --> 00:38:23,400 So, this is a kind of typical late-Victorian police court, 796 00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:27,120 and this was the place where people experienced 797 00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:30,040 sort of first-hand Victorian justice. 798 00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,200 Great Marlborough Street would've been the place 799 00:38:32,240 --> 00:38:35,320 where the vast majority of women who were convicted or charged 800 00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:37,120 with selling sex would show up 801 00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,640 and the police would bring them to the police station, 802 00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:41,040 which is just next door, 803 00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:44,720 lock them up in the police cells to spend a very uncomfortable night, 804 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,240 and then, kind of hungover, bruised, and battered, 805 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:50,120 they'd be led through this door to meet the magistrate. 806 00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,880 So, we're standing in what would've been the gallery, 807 00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:56,800 and the gallery would've been mostly filled with police court, 808 00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,080 uh, reporters, police court sketch artists. 809 00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,320 And they'd all be men. And they'd all be men. 810 00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:05,000 You were then having to sort of say, "I'm a common prostitute," 811 00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:08,520 and plead guilty in front of a room filled with men. 812 00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:10,360 It was a very misogynistic society, 813 00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,840 and something I often think about is Jack the Ripper, 814 00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:14,240 there were hundreds of suspects, 815 00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,320 and when you look at something like that, you go... 816 00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:18,360 A whole bunch of women have been chopped up, 817 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,760 and you look at that and go, "Well, that could be anybody." 818 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:22,280 THEY LAUGH Like, that's not... 819 00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:23,320 That's not a great sign. 820 00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,960 Because there was so much misogynistic violence. 821 00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:29,080 So, there's this paradox, isn't there? 822 00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:32,120 Because there's these two enormous Jubilees during Victoria's reign. 823 00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:34,840 There's this incredible amount of wealth on display. 824 00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:39,040 But also, on their own streets, there's this incredible poverty. 825 00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:40,560 Yeah, exactly. 826 00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:42,400 This is, like, the kind of street photographs 827 00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:43,720 of very poor children. 828 00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:45,880 Very young children caring for babies 829 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:47,600 because their mothers are out working. 830 00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:50,640 This is a really iconic photograph that really demonstrates 831 00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:53,480 the kinds of poverty that women would experience. 832 00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:55,120 And Victoria presided over this, 833 00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:58,280 and, you know, had received a first-class education, 834 00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,480 had a lot of intelligence, you know, 835 00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:02,400 had a lot of people reporting to her - 836 00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:04,600 must have known what was going on in her country, 837 00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:06,720 but wasn't really interested in any of it. 838 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:08,640 No. I mean... Or in changing any of it. 839 00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:11,680 ..you've got a very conservative Queen on the throne 840 00:40:11,720 --> 00:40:13,600 who has no interest in women's rights, 841 00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:15,440 cos one of the things she said about it, 842 00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:17,320 "A woman's place is in the home, just like me. 843 00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:20,240 "I'm in my home. It just happens to be Buckingham Palace." 844 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:22,440 There's a famous census they did 845 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:26,000 where Victoria's listed as Albert's wife 846 00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,000 and she puts her job down as Queen... 847 00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:29,160 Mm-hm. SHE CHUCKLES 848 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:30,680 ..so it was very much that way round. 849 00:40:30,720 --> 00:40:32,800 Yeah. He was still head of the household. 850 00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,400 "I'm ruling because there was nobody else, 851 00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:37,640 "but thank goodness I have my husband 852 00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:40,120 "and I have other men around me to tell me what to do." 853 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,240 With conditions miserable for many Brits, 854 00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:50,720 Queen Victoria did the obvious 855 00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:52,720 and spread that misery around the world, 856 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:54,200 much like a U2 tour. 857 00:40:54,240 --> 00:40:56,920 Britain ruled a massive empire from which they took tea, 858 00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,120 rubber, and the lives of quite a chunk 859 00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:00,720 of the world's population. 860 00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:06,120 Morally, Victoria sent out mixed messages. 861 00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:08,560 Research her empire and you'd think Victorian values 862 00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:10,840 might include plunder, extortion, and bigotry 863 00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:12,680 rather than covering your piano legs 864 00:41:12,720 --> 00:41:15,640 for fear they might give the vicar a semi. 865 00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,040 Last year, the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge, 866 00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:23,880 as they were, went on a disastrous trip to the Caribbean, 867 00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:25,920 rekindling memories of Britain's key role 868 00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:26,960 in the slave trade 869 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,320 and its failure to ever pay any kind of reparations 870 00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:30,680 to its victims. 871 00:41:30,720 --> 00:41:32,640 On the trip, they did their best to present 872 00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:34,960 a new modern face of the British monarchy 873 00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:36,760 by not at any point rounding anyone up, 874 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:37,920 or branding them, 875 00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:39,840 or throwing them into the hold of their ship. 876 00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:41,240 According to a royal insider, 877 00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:43,560 William and Kate's position is that they can't change 878 00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:45,040 what's happened in the past, 879 00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:47,600 which shows a surprisingly good grasp of how time works, 880 00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:49,400 but not such a great understanding 881 00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:52,360 of the concept of making amends for terrible things. 882 00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:58,800 The Victorian era is really the era 883 00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:03,640 in which the British Empire became the richest empire in human history. 884 00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:05,440 So, not just the largest in human history, 885 00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:07,000 but the richest in human history. 886 00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,120 And that doesn't come from being kind 887 00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:10,720 and civilised to the natives. 888 00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:13,960 It comes from establishing massive companies 889 00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,960 that are able to extract wealth from Africa, 890 00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,160 from India, and from the Caribbean, 891 00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:22,960 creating these private companies like The Hudson Bay Company, 892 00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:24,480 The East India Company, 893 00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:27,400 The Royal Niger Company, The Royal Africa Company. 894 00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:30,560 So, in a way, the British monarchy managed a good trick under Victoria 895 00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:33,600 in that they managed to have her as head of the empire 896 00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:36,200 and to personify the empire, and at the same time, 897 00:42:36,240 --> 00:42:39,880 they managed to keep the monarchy away from some of the bloody work 898 00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:41,360 that had to be done in the empire, 899 00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:43,080 but they weren't associated with that. 900 00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:44,240 Absolutely. 901 00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:47,320 You know, that's when we get the kind of gentleman imperialists, 902 00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:48,640 as historians call them. 903 00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:52,440 Bankers and traders and lawyers that really benefit 904 00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,600 from the wealth that's been accrued in empire. 905 00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:55,920 You know, this is something 906 00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:58,480 that allows for the building of British capitalism, 907 00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:02,240 and it still has consequences for the way that capital and finance 908 00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:04,320 move across the world today. 909 00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:08,240 The three leading corporate tax havens in the world 910 00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:11,640 are British Overseas Territories and crown dependencies - 911 00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:13,280 places like the Cayman Islands, 912 00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:15,280 places like the British Virgin Islands, 913 00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:16,560 places like Bermuda. 914 00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:21,000 These are still part of Britain's global footprint, 915 00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:25,400 and they play such a crucial role in inequality that we struggle with, 916 00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:26,720 not only globally, 917 00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:28,800 but also right here in the United Kingdom today. 918 00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:29,880 And a lot of those people 919 00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:32,120 just want rid of the British monarchy now, don't they? 920 00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:33,880 They just want to be republics. I think so. 921 00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:35,720 I mean, we've seen that with Barbados. 922 00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:37,480 We saw the people in Jamaica again 923 00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:40,200 calling for the removal of the British head of state. 924 00:43:40,240 --> 00:43:43,560 Mr William, speak some truth on this trip. 925 00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:45,840 Speak truth for what it's worth. 926 00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:47,240 MILITARY BAND PLAYS. 927 00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:51,520 There's real material consequences for having the British monarch 928 00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:53,600 as the head of state for people in the Caribbean. 929 00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:55,240 It means that the British monarch 930 00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,520 is the commander in chief of their military. 931 00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:02,240 Their military ultimate loyalty is to the monarch of another country. 932 00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:03,760 And where does the monarchy fit 933 00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:06,080 into that conversation on decolonisation? 934 00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:09,880 Broadly, I think this conversation around decolonisation 935 00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:12,040 could be a much bigger conversation 936 00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:15,480 about what kind of country does Britain want to be now. 937 00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:18,600 Do we want to have a monarch at all? 938 00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:21,120 You know, if we were to write a constitution, 939 00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:24,160 what kind of position would we put a monarch in that constitution, 940 00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:25,960 or would they not exist at all? 941 00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:35,320 Personally, I try to deal 942 00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:37,160 with the injustice of the British monarchy 943 00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:38,440 in my own small way - 944 00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:40,560 giving swan's bread soaked in LSD 945 00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:43,880 to try and liberate them from their mental shackles. 946 00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:46,840 He doesn't own you guys. You're free. 947 00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:57,560 The monarchy can no longer take its survival for granted. 948 00:44:57,600 --> 00:44:59,360 I suppose Prince William already knows 949 00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:01,160 that you can't take anything for granted. 950 00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:04,400 20 years ago, he had hair to rival a prize-winning pony, 951 00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:07,080 and now he looks enviously at a kiwi fruit. 952 00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:08,600 With the death of the Queen, 953 00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:11,200 there's a crisis of legitimacy for the British monarchy, 954 00:45:11,240 --> 00:45:13,160 personified by Prince Andrew. 955 00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:14,320 You'd think that by now, 956 00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:16,360 Andrew would at least have apologised. 957 00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:18,960 I apologise after CONSENSUAL sex. 958 00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:21,560 Conspiracy theories about the royal family being lizards 959 00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:24,120 disguises the fact they're actually something even worse - 960 00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:25,800 a slightly dim German family 961 00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,840 to whom we've inexplicably given billions of pounds. 962 00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:37,400 What is the monarchy, really? 963 00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:39,520 The British monarchy has become the linchpin 964 00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:41,280 of Britain's true ideology - 965 00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:44,880 the idea that some people deserve more rights than others. 966 00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:46,120 The further away you get 967 00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:48,440 from an imagined ideal in Britain, the less white, 968 00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:50,200 middle-class, or English you are, 969 00:45:50,240 --> 00:45:52,560 the less rights you're supposed to have. 970 00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:55,280 The royal family are there to firmly define the centre 971 00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:56,640 from which you differ. 972 00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:57,960 The real Britain. 973 00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,040 People who tell you their favourite TV show 974 00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:01,640 has gone woke. 975 00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:06,440 Something I've found translates as, "I saw a black person." 976 00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:09,200 I used to be outraged by the British class system 977 00:46:09,240 --> 00:46:10,840 and the way it destroys lives. 978 00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:14,000 Then I bought a "Live, laugh, love" magnet for my fridge. 979 00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:15,880 Now it all just washes over me. 980 00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:18,240 The monarchy is ending, and when that happens, 981 00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:19,600 let's not be bitter. 982 00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:22,240 Let's get out on the streets and raise a bottle to them, 983 00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:25,080 filled with petrol and a burning rag. 984 00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:55,760 Subtitles by Red Bee Media 125859

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