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Hello, Alba, how are you?

We can't hear you.

Hi, how are you?

Good, and you?

Here we are.

Just a second ago Rocío connected, and we

were organizing the talk, and here she is.

I also think that...

Oh, well.

Alberto.

Yes, Alba is there.

Here we have Mr. Alberto Parejo.

Good afternoon.

Hi.

How are you, Alba?

How is the fashion season going, Alba?

Good, good.

We've had two weekends off, which is not

bad, but the rest is pretty good.

We can't complain, and there hasn't been any

change, except for the schedule, which has passed

us by from one afternoon to the next.

But for now, the new restrictions aren't affecting

us.

Let's see how it goes.

Let's hope that...

Let's see what happens.

Let's see what happens.

Yes, we're getting a lot of requests for

next year.

Yes.

Now.

Kate.

Kate Paz.

Hi.

Hi, Kate.

Alberto Parejo.

Hi, good afternoon.

How are you?

Since you're still losing weight, I'm going to

have to hit you in the bones.

Well, here we go.

Here we go with the sport that I

was hooked on.

Very good, perfect.

Okay, well, I'd also like to say hi

to my colleague Greg, Miguel Ángel Garrote, I'm

sure you're all meeting up.

And David, I don't know if I should

ask David how he's doing, to see if

he dares to speak Spanish, which I don't

know.

If he's brave or not, he's probably thinking,

this guy...

Thinking, what the hell?

Spanish.

Well, as always, welcome to everyone, and especially

to Rocío Vega.

We have her as a guest, as the

third guest in this 60-minute series.

As the name suggests, it's a 60-minute

talk with Rocío Vega in this case.

And some of you, well, when it's been

a while since I came up with the

idea to meet up with a photographer, well,

a person, who said she wanted to talk

to Rocío.

So I contacted Rocío about 15 days ago,

or a little more, and I asked her

if I wanted to talk to her.

But I was frank, I wanted to have

a debate with her, but I wasn't sure

what we could talk about.

So I told her, and I said, hey,

Rocío, let's think about a topic, if you

want to be part of this.

And she said yes.

Guys, guys, guys.

I'm going to mute everyone, as if I

were a dictator.

Wait a second.

Sorry.

Silence.

Sorry, sorry everyone.

I'm muting.

So, what Rocío was saying, she said yes.

So, the first thing, and what she told

me, was that she was behind the relationship

for a while.

I mean, Rocío, like many of us, we've

had to suffer quite a lot, especially last

year.

And we still live from the hangover from

last year.

I mean, there are weddings that have been

postponed, others that have been canceled.

It's a fucking mess.

And the story is that, I mean, Rocío

has managed to to get things out of

the wedding photography.

And she told me that it could be

interesting if we talked during this hour about

the project or about the different projects that

she has been doing outside of the wedding

photography.

Which, for me, is so complicated.

First of all, it's like saying, who are

you calling?

Where are you going?

I mean, where are you sending an email?

Where are you...

I mean, if you want to call someone

to give you a job in the middle

of a pandemic, who are you calling?

What's your name?

How do you get in?

I mean, that's why when Rocío told me

this, I said, fuck, it's like a ring

on the finger so that we can have

a fun chat.

And well, I mean, and well, so she

can tell us a little bit.

As an introduction, I just wanted to tell

you that Rocío, for me, is like a

dinosaur, like Victor de Marcos Rojo, like Iñaki,

or like Nathan Sands, who was the last

person.

If I say dinosaur, it's because she's been

in this profession well, more years than me.

It's not that I call her old, but

it could be said that she's been a

few years of experience.

And well, with Rocío, we've had super fun

adventures and adventures from bringing a photographer from

Canada to do a workshop in a rural

house in Madrid, which I don't remember the

name, let's see if she remembers the name.

And then, until we coincided in a place

as crazy as Las Vegas, where we attended

a conference called WPPI.

I've always said many times that this conference

is one of the best conferences I've ever

attended because of the fact that, from what

I've heard, and I remember that every night

we would go to a private party of

a particular brand, of albums, or cameras, or

whatever.

Party.

Yes, but then, early in the morning, we

were at Starbucks having a coffee and getting

into a conference of Jerry Jones or of

Citra de Rico or whatever, and the story

is that it was a super, super, super

fun experience.

So, well, with all of you, Rocío Vega,

okay?

So, well, with this presentation, having said all

of this, we'll leave Rocío for a few

minutes to introduce herself, to tell us her

little story, and I, while Rocío is going

to talk, she has sent me several videos

of the different corporate projects she has done

in the last few months, and while she

is commenting a little bit on the play,

I'll be showing videos and I'll be asking

questions, just like we are open to all

of you, if you have a question, just

raise your hand and I'll give you my

foot or whatever you want and we are

all in contact, okay?

So, with all of you, Rocío Vega, well,

Rocío, nothing, tell us, tell us a little

bit.

Well, the dinosaur, which was really funny, I

felt like a dinosaur oh my God, Rex!

The same, the same, with the short hands

and the big head, trying to take photos,

although lately you are more into video than

photos.

I'm going to share the screen so you

all and it's all, well, you see I

have a desk completely full of shit, okay?

Because I'm like, in the last few days

we are from head to toe and they

are all stories, right?

But, well, the first question I have for

you, well, first of all, Rocío, thank you

for being here.

The first question I want to ask you,

just to get to the bottom of it,

is, how, where does the idea how does

it arise and how do you come up

with launching yourself a little bit to a,

I mean, a change of, I mean, a

third, right?

I mean, if this is 100% what

wedding photography is, how do you come up

with this?

Does it arise in what was the pandemic

or does it arise, for example, much earlier?

Let's see, I've always been attracted to the

video and always, since 2012 was the first

time I started recording audio at a wedding.

Then I left it for a while and

so on and really never, I've had a

lot of time to dedicate to it and,

of course, with the pandemic, with COVID, well,

as you all know, well, it has been

very hard for me, especially all my weddings

are of destination, all my clients are from

abroad, so last year I shot a wedding

of Second Shooter and that's it.

And, of course, that, I am a person

who, I am very restless, I think that

this last year I have worked more than

ever, I have learned a lot and, well,

I have had a very bad time, I

have had anxiety attacks, I have had a

very, very bad time, I have tried a

million things and, first, I started doing mini

family sessions and I came up with the

crazy idea that, although I only had 20

minutes for the photo session, apart from taking

photos, I carried my tripod with my second

camera and I started recording video and, with

this, I started to make mini videos to

have more things to sell, right?

So, then people could buy, apart from buying

more photos, they could also buy the mini

video that I made.

And I tell this because, with this, what

I did was that all this other madness

last summer when I was able to travel,

I traveled again to France and we were

invited by some former clients of Frank, Frank

Boutonnet, my boyfriend, in case someone doesn't know

him, wedding photographer, and...

Oh, if you don't need me to introduce

him...

Because I've already done it, like, many episodes.

So, don't worry, I think everyone knows him.

Okay, okay.

I don't know if you're watching me on

video, too, or...

Ah, okay, cool.

And yes, just above, he tells you that

I'm sharing the screen and you can see

just in the upper part and in the

lower part, he's watching the video that you

recorded for the honey Yes, yes, well, then,

back to the story, I'll try to make

it short, but, well, some former clients of

him invited us to a wine party in

his house and, well, you go and I

started to talk to the girl and I

showed her what I was doing about family

mini-videos and stuff, and then she told

me, wow, and look, it was a little

I mean, 20 minutes in a tripod and

that's it, and she told me, well, you

know, this makes me think that I would

like you to tell our story because they

have a very cool they are also starting

a new business and they are starting to

rent the house for companies and she said,

I would like you to make us a

mini-video and tell our story and, of

course, I said yes to everything and I

said, yes, come on, and that was the

first job, from that job I got another

job in France, also with another company, and

then, of course, with all this situation, it

was cool, I get jobs in France, I

have jobs in France, but I have to

solve the local issue, because I don't have

a local I moved from the city six

years ago when I was already doing destination

so I don't have a business here and,

of course, I said, well, it's cool, I

liked telling stories, I realized that, in the

end, what I like is telling stories and

I said, great, with this I can tell

stories, I make videos and I take photos

and I offer something different, but when you

think, well, and what Victor asked me, how

do you do it?

You take the phone and call someone and,

of course, coldly, and you say, I was

thinking a lot of things and I spent

a couple of months researching on Facebook which

companies moved the most here in El Bierzo,

where I live, and it occurred to me

that if I called a company and told

them that I made a video for free

because I needed a portfolio in Spanish, I

was going to screw it up a lot,

because, of course, how do you start?

Well, offering something for free, but if I

offer it like this, how do I charge

for it?

So I came to an agreement with myself

and I said, well, if I make a

personal project, it's different, because I'm inviting someone

to be part of my project and, being

my personal project, I can do whatever I

want.

So I invented a personal project called Con

Vida, which is a word game for COVID,

Con Vida, and the idea of Con Vida

was to share stories of small entrepreneurs who,

like me, were suffering from COVID and they

had seen themselves being forced to work.

In this process, the video that Victor is

showing, they gave the Michelin star to a

restaurant here, and I said, wow, I have

to work with him, but I said, wow,

this guy is calling everything God.

So first, I have to start with other

people and have someone take me to him.

And so I started with a bar that

moves a lot here in Bonferrada and I

talked to the guy, he said, man, of

course, delighted, I made a very cool video,

I haven't sent you Victor, but I have

them on Instagram, which is rociovega-storyteller, there

are the videos of Con Vida, and he

told me about some guys from La Miel

who did, and of course, when he told

me about the bees, my first thought was,

no way, how do you work with the

suit, but then I said, no, come on,

if I'm going to try, try, I contacted

them, we started talking, but the season of

bees was not at that time, so nothing,

then, that's it, someone gave me, gave me

the contact, he spoke to the restaurant, he

told him, hey, this girl has a super

cool and would At this time, the restaurant

was closed, it only did deliveries on weekends.

And if you go to videos, I made

a video of these deliveries that they did.

What you're talking about, right?

Yes, that's right.

And then, of course, I told the guy,

I would like to take pictures of you,

but you know, we took pictures of Mexican

food that I was making for that weekend,

but it wasn't about Estrella Michelin.

And of course, the guy told me, but

I'm just talking about the restaurant and closing

the restaurant for this, but when he saw

the video, he loved it.

And just after watching the video, they called

him from the Bass Culinary Center to give

a talk.

And then he told them, and if I

take a video, could I put it?

They said, well, nobody does it, but if

you want, yes.

Then he called me and said, Rocío, would

you be able to make a video of

El Bierzo products, of my restaurant, in 10

days?

I said, yes.

And this guy talked to those of Tierra

de Sabor, and he sold it to the

guy, he told him, I'm going to go

to the Bass Culinary Center, it's a spectacular

opportunity to sell the products of El Bierzo,

and I have a girl who's going to

make us a video of the host, and

let's see if they pay for it.

So there I was already paying.

What you've been in charge of, of doing

a fieldwork, of trying to get to the

whole fabric, you've tried to be a little

bit, as if it were weddings, that as

a result of a wedding you take out

another, and another, and another, you try to

find out about the suppliers, the wedding plans,

all this, at the end of the day,

taken to your field, until you find, well,

until you get to do this.

Exactly.

And nothing, we did this video, it was

10 days of madness, being with him, going

to a supplier or something, we made a

video that was very cool, which was a

part that you have taught now, in Lemuna,

he presented it at the Bass Culinary Center,

he loved it, he had his presentation from

10 to 10 and a half, and he

presented my video, the last one, at 10

and 32 minutes, he received a message from

the guy from Tierra de Sabor, I mean,

what a piece of video.

Then you say, cool, you know, because you

get in well.

And then, as a result of that, in

the end, more people find out, the guys

from La Miel were waiting for him to

do the project, and a company called them,

a Catalan bank, to buy their product, they

were among themselves, and another, and it's like

all the, all the holes in the cheese

hole, you know, elementary, came together, because the

bank always works with suppliers, he was tired

of his supplier, and he said, well, let's

look for someone, and they asked the guy

from La Miel, hey, is there anyone left

who can make a video to be able

to show it with La Miel?

Man, I have a girl, I'll do it

like this.

And that contact, from the bank, is through

a girl, who, as I say, is the

wedding planner of the companies, and in the

end, it's like this, it's like one thing

comes out of another, and I'm very happy,

I make photos, videos, and the video, I

take it from a photographic point of view,

a bit like I'm taking a photo, but

in motion, and as a result of all

this, every time I have a new company,

I immerse myself in the world, I've done

another piece of architecture, so I immerse myself

in the whole world of architecture, learn everything,

in food, I saw all the shows on

Creative Live about food, and now I can

take photos of a lot of things, and

the truth is that it's very interesting, because

every time it's a different world, in which

you have to immerse yourself completely.

Sorry, but of course, it's not just about

what it is to expose yourself, but as

you said, you've had to soak up all

of Creative Live to know how it works,

because the equipment you had, was it worth

it to record videos?

I mean, the equipment, like photographs you already

had, was it worth it to make videos

or not?

Yes and no, but I had to buy

a lot of things.

At first, the little money I earned was

to reinvest in equipment, and obviously with your

own camera you can make a video, but

of course, if you want to get a

good audio, which is the most difficult thing

in the video, then you have to buy

a good recorder, then the good microphone for

the tie, the microphone for whatever, then others

that are wireless, it has been a progress,

and I started first with a small, simple

Panasonic camera, and then I realized that Fuji

had just released the X-T4 for me.

And well, it was a complicated moment, the

truth is that it was a moment that

we were working well and enjoying it a

lot, and it stopped well.

The delivery...

And now I work with the X-T4,

and my usual X-T2 is my support

camera, it is the camera that I usually

work with, I put it in a tripod

to make a fixed shot, or it is

the camera that I put to take the

shot from above, and so on.

I combine two cameras, one that I have

in my hand, in motion, I just bought

a gimbal for the work I did in

architecture in Barcelona, that is, it's all...

It has been a little bit, little by

little, and at the same time, super fast,

right?

What's up, girl?

I just got frozen right now, because have

you had time for all that in the

months?

Yes, I'm a geek, and when I get

into something, I get completely into it.

This is the last job that I have

done now in Barcelona, for a company that

does interior design.

This company is doing interior design in the

house of Piqué's parents, and they wanted to

show the space without showing it, you know,

in a more artistic way, and they have

sent the mailing this morning to all their

clients, because their idea was to convey a

feeling and that people want to go to

see the showroom they have done.

If we now put that the wedding photograph,

which I know you like, if we now

put that this pandemic is going to be

fixed, because I don't know if it's going

to be fixed or not, would you forget

about this?

No.

Or are you going to continue?

No, no, no.

Right now, my future plan is 50-50.

And I feel super happy because, on the

one hand, I found a new passion that

I didn't see myself doing anything other than

weddings.

I didn't see myself.

I did the family thing, I did things,

dog photos and such, but for survival.

And with this, I found something that I

like as much as weddings.

People ask me a lot, I'm not going

to make a wedding video.

I'm not that crazy.

But I do want to.

I consider weddings to be my summer job

and in winter it's going to be more

corporate.

And in that way, my future plan is

a little more relaxed, calmer.

I don't need so many weddings, you know?

Before, I had to shoot between 12 and

15 weddings, because I don't like that the

number is much higher.

And you're always suffering, I only have five,

I need two more weddings.

And in this way, my approach is, okay,

I need fewer weddings, so I'm going to

be able to get jobs that connect much

more with me, that pay me what I

really value and what my job is worth.

And also, I have the corporate for winter,

also to do projects that fill me up.

Because if you look, the videos I make

are very artistic, very personal, very telling a

story.

And this is not worth it for any

company either.

From my point of view, all companies should

do it, of course, but not all companies

want to teach themselves in this way.

And I don't want to make a video

for a company that tells me, it's super

technical and you have to do this.

I want to maintain my creative freedom.

So I think that with both things, I'm

going to be able to make a balance.

That's my idea.

Very good.

The truth is, I didn't have the courage,

I mean, and I didn't have the courage,

and that's what we thought, not to go

for the video, which wasn't, that wasn't, but

in the area where we are in Zaragoza,

not to dedicate ourselves to it, but to

open up a little more , for example,

the fan.

The fan.

And especially for these dates when everything was

going down, things weren't working well, and then

a couple of reports came out, one about

architecture, but of course, at the moment when

the contracts come back, weddings, such and such,

and online conferences, you say, no, I'm going

back, I mean, I stay in my niche

because it's where I feel comfortable, it's like

always leaving the comfort zone, in addition to

fear, respect, and that, not fear, but that,

I mean, comfort, because you don't want to

lose it, or you don't want to believe

that, because you're losing that comfort, but, well,

everything that, I mean, all this work, and

I'm glad, I mean, that you have, that

you have known, for inventing things that others

have not known how to do yet, and

we are with this story.

I'm not going to talk alone, but there

are more people here, so let's leave a

little...

I'm going to add one more thing, sorry.

No, no, of course.

Yes, well, at the moment I've only shot

one wedding, and I've realized that this other

job I'm doing has had, and will have,

a great influence on my wedding work, you

know?

I've been capturing audio at weddings for several

years, and maybe doing something with the GoPro

to put a little bit in the slides,

because for me the slides are very important,

it's my version of the wedding, and I've

been, as I've told you, for several years

adding the audio of the wedding, and selecting

this, and the other day when I was

at the wedding, of course, there were moments

in which my body asked me to make

a video clip, and of course, with the

X-T4 it's so easy that you change

the button, photo, video, and you have your

setup for video and your setup for photo,

and there was a moment, for example, especially

very special, which was the end of everything,

the girls put their song, they danced their

last song, I took the photo, I already

had, I already had the photo, you know?

And suddenly it was like, no, I mean,

I changed it to video, and I already

started making videos, because the moment when my

body asked me to make a video, you

know?

So, that's like, wow, I mean, let's see,

later when I set up the slideshow and

all, I'll put my little video clips, and

I do see that it's having a great

influence on my photographic work as well.

As I said, I'm not going to make

a wedding video, but there will be more

clips and more little things in motion at

my weddings, that's for sure.

You know that saying, right?

That, well, never say what's going to happen

when you see me, because you never know

what's going to happen.

Hey Rocío, how do you see, for example,

the wedding market, for example, right now?

I'm not saying anything.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

I'm saying what you think, I mean, how

do you see all of this?

We knew that the market was a bit

curvy before the pandemic, sure that the pandemic

turned it into something a little more complex

without going any further for example, yesterday I

was pre-wedding and the couple who gets

married on the 14th of August, I mean,

they want to get married and all that,

but they were telling me that, just like

with the restrictions, we have to cut people,

we have to do this, we also want

to hire some antigen tests for all guests,

and I was realizing that, fuck, how easy

it was, in quotes, to get married two

years ago, now this is starting to be

like a gymkhana, right?

Because one day they change the number of

guests, the other this, and the boyfriends told

me, I mean, they were super fun, well,

fun, I mean, they took it with a

lot of philosophy, but I thought, for me,

I mean, without giving an opinion, of course,

I say, fuck, I mean, it's like I

talk to the boyfriends about some things that

two years ago I didn't talk about, about

guests, about this, about antigen, I say, fuck,

I say, it's like it's becoming a profession

in something a little complex, let's hope that

after the vaccine and a couple more years,

who knows, because seen is seen, it seems

that not even being vaccinated gives you the

certainty that you are going to be fine,

because you can catch it anyway, so we

are screwed, right?

But, well, how do you see what is,

then, from your point of view, at what

point do we find ourselves, that is, it

is not at a personal level, but the

wedding photographers, at what point do we find

ourselves and where do you think all this

is going?

Well, very screwed, I get anxious, just thinking

about weddings makes me anxious, but look, today

I had a Skype meeting, that is, 20

minutes ago, with a couple, for September, next

year, right?

And of course, you will have positivity there,

they live in Panama, they get married in

Valladolid, and that inside, I say, fuck, how

brave, right?

You know, let's see what's going to happen

from here to September, next year, of course,

I'm positive and I hope it can be

done, right?

But it doesn't stop me from being afraid,

right?

I also believe that people are going to

want to get married, and especially in Spain,

they are going to want to party, and

there is going to be a boom, that

maybe there are photographers who are already starting

to see it.

For me, like 90% of my work

are destiny weddings, or either me of destiny,

or destiny boyfriends, because it's black, I mean,

you know, Victor, it's complicated.

I had 50% of my season canceled,

canceled weddings, two have been postponed for next

year, the only two local weddings I had

were postponed for next year, I mean, it's

more complicated, you know?

And the five weddings that I have this

year, well, until the day the wedding arrives

and I'm doing them, I'm not going to

say, wow, I've had these weddings, you know?

They are there, but look, I mean, a

wedding I had two weeks ago, they canceled

it a week and a half earlier, and

it was a local wedding.

So I try not to have all my

illusions there, because emotionally I can't deal with

it, you know?

And I think that also a little in

launching the video and all this has been

like a breath of fresh air, to say,

I'm going to go crazy, and the video

has brought me to get my mind out

of there, I'm learning, I'm in sponge mode,

learning, and I have a lot of energy

right now, but it's thanks to everything that

the video is giving me.

And since it's something new for me, well,

I'm learning, it's a constant process, you know?

And that's what gives me energy.

Yes, I really want weddings to come back,

of course, but...

It's clear, it's clear.

It's scary when you start to hear that

even if you are vaccinated, you can take

the variants, that the variants can be mixed,

I mean...

I think we're going to be a couple

of years...

Hey, excuse me for a moment, Rocío, I

just realized that I didn't know this, and

since it already seems like a conversation, just

like you and me, and there is someone

who raises his hand, like Alberto Parejo, who

appears with a hand that I had never

seen before, I say, of course, I say,

well, I guess because he wants to report

something, so we leave him a little bit,

because he has a question, or he says

something, okay?

Greetings to both of you, I am very

happy to see you, and so is Rocío

too.

Well, talking about the subject of weddings, right?

Well, I was also in the crossroads of

knowing what to do, thanks to God, I

had no cancellation of any, all were postponed,

but they didn't cancel any, not a single

wedding, I was very lucky, but well, they

were postponed several dates, three, four times, and

well, we were fixing it, but I was

also in the crossroads of trying, well, to

divide my path to be able to have

other options, and in the end I didn't

do it, what I did, or what I

have done, has been to try, well, to

rebuild my business, see where more money is

spent, or where you can do without things,

and invest in improving, well, in trying to

train as much as possible, improve everything on

the team, on the website, everything, for when,

precisely what you were talking about, that the

show has to continue, sure, we don't know

if this year, next year, well, try to

be, the more there is, the better, right?

The stronger the better, and that was the

decision I made, and well, right now, well,

I don't regret it either, because the year

has been quite good in contracts and all

that, and well, and it also gives a

little hope, in the sense that, no matter

how bad things go, we will always be

better than last year, it is impossible for

us to go back to the situation we

were in, the simple fact of the vacuums,

that you can get sick, but maybe not

with that virulence that you had before, and

that will give everyone more tranquility, and apart

from that, the government does not have a

hard time to lock us up again, so

this is going to continue, whoever falls, or

us, or whatever, the economy is no longer

going to stop, because there is no more

money to pay to stop, not for anything

else.

Yes, I think the most important thing is

to stay strong emotionally, one, the first thing,

and two, try to stay visible as much

as you can, because it will come back,

that is clear, at some point, I mean,

humanity has gone through similar things, through pandemics,

and in the end, people always want to

continue, right?

Hey, I had a dirty question for you,

was the next video job, I mean, corporate,

when do you have it?

I just did a tour, and I'm finishing

delivering the videos, today I have delivered the

architecture one, today I deliver one that I

made of a barbecue cook in Rotterdam, I

just delivered ...

Wait, wait, how do you play with a

Rotterdam cook?

How do you look for a Rotterdam cook?

I say, but I was thinking, look, Madrid,

as you have it so close, I say,

surely there are ways to get in there,

with the work you have there, right?

I don't know, look, more things are coming

out in Barcelona, and really, when you think

about it, I am closer to Barcelona than

to Madrid, because, yes, yes, yes, look, look,

I am an hour away from the León

airport, where I can park my car for

free, I get out of the car, I

get on the plane, an hour and a

half of flight, I arrive in Barcelona, and

that's it, I mean, it's a flight that

costs 150 euros, so I'm 150 euros from

Barcelona, and from Madrid it costs me about

100, 120, you know?

And it's four hours by car, so ...

And in Barcelona I have the following video

for a company, for the girl I'm telling

you about, I call her the wedding planner

of the companies, because she is dedicated to

looking for solutions for the gifts, for the

meetings of different companies, and then I'm going

to make the video for them, now in

September, I have two jobs in France in

the air, I also have little things, you

know, around there, right now, what is the

month of August and September are the weddings,

the ones I have, so it's for that,

and then in September I'll start with new

video projects.

Very good, perfect, okay, any more questions out

there, guys?

And girls?

Nobody says anything ...

Oh, poor thing!

What a joke, what a joke, what a

joke!

Why do you say that you are not

going to get involved with wedding videos?

Uff!

Have you ever thought about it?

Because it's a lot of fuss, because it

gives me a lot of respect, I mean,

the work of a wedding videographer, wow, I

mean, capturing so many audios, then telling a

story, because I like to tell stories, and

if I make a wedding video, it will

not be this video of everyone is the

same, you know, I would do something much

more documentary, and that's crazy, it's crazy, and

I like wedding photography a lot more, I

mean, I like wedding photos, I love them,

so stop taking photos to put on video,

and that it is worse paid, well, no.

In the minutes before the talk, what you

told me is something like that, and that's

what a colleague told me a long time

ago, in which you told me that the

photographer, he had a little to forget, in

quotation marks, that the camera he had in

his hands, not only that he took photos,

but he also had the possibility to make

videos, and that he has those possibilities, and

it seems that photographers, in the end, for

example, we are going to attend to that,

of course, mine is not comparable to yours,

because when I record videos, it is to

make videos for Patreon, that also because of

the pandemic, I had to finally learn how

to put the audio, but of course, my

way is simply with the microphone that I

put here, it is put on the bottom

line.

That's how I started, Víctor, that is, how

I started recording classes, it was my first

contact with that, how to put the camera,

the audio, really, the base started from there,

and from there I started doing it with

the families and such, and I really believe

that for a photographer it is much easier

to learn video than for a videographer to

become a photographer, you know?

Because in the end, a photographer, the only

thing we have to know is that if

you record at 25 frames per second, you

have to be recording at 150, you know?

That's it, and the complicated thing is the

audio, but really, you already know everything else,

you already know how to measure the light,

you already know how to frame, focus, and

such, and that change is not so difficult,

what is difficult is the audio, that is,

the audio is what I would like to

do, a workshop and a one-to-one

with someone good at audio is audio, that

is, of course.

That's what Montoro said, okay?

Something like that, right?

That is, for him, the fundamental part of

a video was always given by the audio,

that is, by the sound, right?

By the sound of the interviews, by the

ambient sound, by what was included in the

video.

The design of the sound.

Yes, yes, yes, and in fact, for the

conference, or one of his conferences, I don't

remember which one it was, but he talked

about that, about the importance of sound in

what was the video.

Very good.

Someone has asked a question in the chat,

Víctor, he says, what equipment do you use

for these great videos?

Well, right now I'm using the Fuji X

-T4 as the main camera, it has an

incredible stabilization, it has the ease that it

is the camera of photos that I already

used, the Fuji, and that you have a

button, a lever, you change from photo to

video, and that is what, that has been

like a spectacular change for me, because you

can have your setups in video and in

photo, so all you have to do is

just start measuring for video, save the setup,

switch to photo, and do the photo thing

as you always do, and the moment you

switch to video, you just press the lever

and that's it.

And that's the camera I use.

And in a tripod or something, I use

the X-T2, which is good, it's not

as good as the X-T4, but it's

good.

You have invested in a drone, right?

No, drone, when I have drone footage, I

subcontract it.

I thought about the drone, but the drone

thing is a world, you have to take

a course, it's very complicated, because besides the

videos I'm doing, look, one was for Tierra

del Sabor, it's an official video, the other

is for a very large bank that they

are going to send to 14,500 clients.

Imagine all these people who receive this video,

and suddenly they see some drone shots in

the medulas, where it is forbidden to record,

you know?

And they can go to the bank to

report them, the bank is going to go

to me, and I am with the guy

with whom I have contacted, he has all

the permissions and has the authorization to make

those shots, you know?

So in the end, you have to delegate

some things, right?

If the client wants a drone, he pays

for it separately, and that's it.

And another person comes, makes his drone, which

I already have enough with making videos, photos

and capturing audio.

How great, how great, very good.

Well, Alba's boy, I knew him, he was

just a couple of years old.

I forgot that this started at 7, I

shit my pants.

What?

Well, a video, a talk.

Guys, Manu!

Manu!

I'm listening to you.

At 7, because the guy was in Ireland.

Oh, I see.

The guy, I forgot.

Well, I wanted to say that Alba also

dedicates a little bit to what is the

corporate world, and what is special about his

boy, because he is involved...

In addition to a wedding that he usually

records as a videographer, he also dedicates himself

to the corporate world, right?

And in fact, Alba was one of the

people who asked Rocío Vega to come.

Oh!

Please, let Rocío come, let Rocío come.

And that's it, right?

I don't know if you, Alba, if you

are involved or if you have made some

other video, because in the last talk you

told me that you had done something, but

that it didn't end up...

Well, you personally, it didn't end up convincing

you to do that.

Sure, let's see, we, as a result of

this whole issue, which I'm not going to

name anymore, we got more involved in corporate,

gastronomy, and so on.

And I don't know if it's more because

of the area where we live, or that

it didn't end up fitting, especially at the

budget level.

I mean, the client didn't end up joining

us.

And what, let's say, we gave him the

turn, is that my boy, Dani, does one

-to-one video courses, precisely.

In fact, I'm in that process of learning,

because it seems to me, I don't know,

very complicated.

I go with him to weddings that don't

come out of video, because lately we're having

more video weddings than photos, although what they

hire us the most are both things.

But hey, we're having a lot of video

requests for other photographers.

And if we have a free date, we

do it.

And I'm learning, I mean, I'm in that

process.

But I really have a lot of respect

for him.

For me, it has nothing to do with

a photo and a video.

It's like another language, another world, another technique.

I mean, when I stand up, I feel

helpless.

So I'm there.

And no, I didn't know Rocío did video.

In fact, I follow your career, especially in

wedding photos.

It is true that a few months ago,

I stopped seeing many wedding photographers because, well,

I was a little unmotivated, saturated.

And I didn't follow the track, for example,

in your case, of that new work.

That's why I didn't know.

But I did like your previous work on

wedding photography.

Well, your work on wedding photography, not the

previous one, the one now.

That's why I liked that you were there.

Thank you.

There's one thing I forgot to comment on,

Víctor.

Well, behind all this is the one I

call The Eye.

You can already imagine who is the critical

eye behind my videos.

Of course, because Fran is also helping you,

right?

Yes, yes, yes.

And does he want to get involved with

this in France?

Or is he still waiting for your wedding?

You know that, well, he is a documentary

photographer.

Many years ago, he worked in a corporate

photography company.

And he didn't want to get involved in

that.

So, at first, he started like, well, I'm

your boy and I'll help you, right?

And when it coincides that he is there

or that he can come, well, he has

come with me.

It coincided, for example, in the honey one.

It was a job we did together.

It coincided that he was here.

The restaurant one, I did it all by

myself.

But he is always there.

So, I edit my story, my video.

I'm super happy.

I send it to him and you know

how it is.

Minute 027.

The image, I don't know what, lasts one

more second.

In the 1.23, the frame, I don't

know what, I don't know when, I mean,

the work crashes.

I re-edit the video for Frank.

So, when the filter passes, Frank, it goes

to the client, you know?

So, I have to say that it is

a hard process because the video is super

complicated.

You take a lot of hours.

You are excited, but there comes a time

when you don't see it anymore.

And you see your video and you say,

wow, awesome.

You send it to Frank and he drops

it, you know?

So, having him behind that hard criticism has

also made me learn much faster.

Because then I have an idea.

For example, the honey one.

If you look at the beginning, honey falls,

honey comes out.

That idea arises from what I said, I

want to make a shot.

And I was learning how to make a

honey shot in the studio.

That everything was black and that you could

only see the honey falling.

And then Frank comes out and says, no,

no, no, no.

Let's make it more dreamlike.

And nature gives us the flowers.

And the honey comes out of the flowers,

right?

So, there you see Rocío behind saying, wow,

that's cool.

But how the hell do I do it,

you know?

Of course, because the big difference between making

a video like this or going to cover

a wedding is that sometimes, although as a

photographer you know or you want or you

are looking for a certain type of photos,

with video it is not comparable.

Because with video you have to have a

story, an idea.

Of course, everything is already prepared to go

and record that.

When I have met videographers, for example, at

weddings, some of them already had a storyboard

of what they wanted to record, what plans

they needed, how they wanted to do it.

And ultimately, as photographers, it seems that we

go more for free.

Yes, as a photographer you go to capture

the moment, whatever happens in front of you

and that's it.

But when you make a video, you have

to know the transitions, what rhythm you are

going to give it, what rhythm the story

requires.

So, if I have to do the goat

movement from left to right, and then in

the next shot I have to come from

the right to the left or from top

to bottom.

I mean, there are a lot of things

that you have, it has a planning, it

has an important previous work.

The more work you have from before, the

better the video will come out.

And I have also learned that on the

go.

Lighting is also important, so I had to

buy LED lights.

In the end, I bought a lot of

equipment and now when I go, before I

went with my camera backpack and that's it,

and now I go with an arsenal of

things.

Yes, with a single camera you can make

video, but if you want to make good

video, good lighting, the flash to take a

picture takes up nothing.

A LED is big and you need to

blur that light and you need many more

things.

If you want to make a photographic video,

in which the light is like in the

photo a protagonist and not adapt to the

light that is on the site.

Sure, sure, sure.

You are the one who is showing, well,

you have put your light and you want

to be specific, of course.

Yes.

Then you also have to think a lot,

well, the truth is that I also take

pictures in JPG, so there are many decisions

that I make in photography that I have

already learned for video, because you have to

measure the light very well, you have to

measure the white balance very well, which is

not like the Racket, then you can do

whatever you want.

No, no, wait, wait, wait, wait.

Wait, wait, I'll save it for you there,

quickly.

I just got stabbed here in the chest

when, every time I hear about JPG, for

this I say, I shit in the milk,

and it is that, I mean, no, no,

no, no.

Look, Víctor, I told you it was an

advantage to shoot in JPG, that helped me,

really.

Look, look, the other day, in a little

group like Petit Comité, the other day, like

the question, hey, if you were to get

married again, who would you choose?

And I say, wow, right now, I was

thinking, I say, I like several, but I

don't know who it would be, and they

tell me who, I mean, I was starting

to think of names, Frank and Rocío came

out, but I thought, at the same time

that your name came out, I thought, they

are in JPG, so what would I do,

ask them?

I say, no.

But you would reject them for JPG.

Oh, I'm going to tell Frank.

Man, of course, well, you know, I mean,

that seems like a very, very strange thing

to me, I mean, no, no, no, and

the answer Frank gave me at a fucking

wedding was, this takes up less, I say,

look, it's a miracle, man, don't fuck with

me, because with the photos you have, you

could get twice the dynamic range, and it

could be twice as interesting.

Well, you know I'm still working on Photoshop

4, right?

Yeah, I know.

Well, let's not talk about him, I mean,

let's not talk badly, because he's not here,

but when I was thinking, for example, about

the names, I was thinking about that at

the same time, that I thought, for example,

about your name, like the other partner, I

also thought, at the same time, this, and

I think JPG, I say, no, no, not

JPG, I say, I have to put files

in a larger file, right?

But hey, that's all bullshit, right?

Yes.

Look, just one thing, Víctor, go back in

the video, to tell a little about the

scene behind, the one with the beer, it's

a little later, the shot of the beer,

forward, forward, the shot of the beer, I

did it here in the studio, I alone,

it's there, just behind that, this, this, well,

here you see me, with the lights, the

stones that we collected, the drops of water,

doing, I was smoking my electronic cigarette, and

suddenly I say, wow, how cool, how the

smoke is there, behind, then I alone, you

know, here, putting the drop, recording, the slider,

well, that in the end, everything requires, well,

creativity, and, and, being stubborn, you know, that

you get an idea in your head, and,

and you can't get it out.

Well, he told me once during the shoot,

that, I mean, because he sometimes, well, he

was involved with things like that, but in

photography, okay?

That to simulate, I mean, to simulate, sorry,

what the drops of water were, well, to

simulate drops of water, as if it were

fresh, you can use, glycerine, that's it, yes,

it's full of glycerine, and the drop, ping,

so that it goes down, I don't know

what.

Ah, very good.

Okay, Jan, I mean, we've gone over five

minutes, one of the things is that I

always want these talks to be always one

hour long, because I'm, I'm always a big

fan, Rocío, that, that what happens in one

hour, well, people disconnect, they don't contribute anything

new, and here, after all, it's just, it's

a chat, well, in this case, with you

this month, I really appreciate it.

Well, thank you very much for inviting me.

Of course, of course, it's a pleasure, and,

well, let's see, let's see when we see

each other, with you, it's been a long

time, with your son, well, I'm going to

see him in a matter of days.

Already.

That's great, that's great, but well, let's hope

that, that soon, in autumn, everything gets a

little better again, and let's see what happens,

if we can keep working, and, and well,

here, I invite you to continue with this

project, because you do it quite well, like

the wedding photography, well, neither, but well, we

have to get out of everything, and, well,

I smell for your courage, for your courage,

for your discontent, and well, for not staying,

as we have done others, with the current,

that we have let ourselves carry a little

by inertia, and, well, it is to praise,

that, well, you have put the blanket on

your head, and above all, well, you do

it well, so, well, congratulations, Rocío.

Thank you, Víctor.

Well, nothing else, guys, if there are no

questions, we leave it here, it's already nine,

it's time to prepare the vegetables, and dinner,

and all this, tomorrow we leave for Cordoba,

we have a wedding, we have, that kind

of weddings, that are called, or that we

call, I mean, Caramel Wedding, because it is

a wedding of 18 people, the truth is,

that it was always, I mean, it had

always been, well, like this, with 18 people,

what happened last year, well, it was postponed

for this year, because, well, I mean, because

of the pandemic, and they have rented a

house, well, a kind of, how do you

say, excuse me, courtyard, so small, and it's

going to be a weekend wedding, with the

pool, and all this, and I kind of

like the fact that, they told me, you

see, in short pants, you don't need to

dress up or anything, we'll do it, and

you shoot, and I say, wow, great, so,

well, I'm a little happy about that, because,

I also have to be honest, and even

though Erika tells me that this is game

by game, I mean, from Saturday to Saturday,

to know if we're going to shoot weddings

or not, that's why I'm going to go

a little like the last wedding of the

year, because who knows what's going to happen

in the next ones, right?

nothing else.

Well, nothing else.

Good luck.

I hope so, and also, thanks to everyone,

okay, for being there.

They have been a little embarrassing today, I

mean, only Mr. Parejo, who is there, so,

thank you very much for participating, like the

rest, for being there.

So, well, David, bye, dear Alba, until next

time.

Rocio, thank you for everything, Greg, Viguel, Lluís,

Manu, who got angry for arriving late, but

don't worry, because next week this will be

published, because we have already recorded it, and

you will see it, because it was very,

very interesting, Kei and Mr. Gabriel.

Until next time, friends, until next time, Rocio,

and see you soon.

Take care!