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This is Tim Burton, and this is a special
audio track of Edward Scissorhands.
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Well, always with main titles
I like to try to help set the tone
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of whatever the piece is going to be tonally.
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When you're doing a film
that's like a fairy tale
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or something that's not really real,
you want to help set the tone visually.
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Titles are always a good way to help that
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and also set the tone musically, as well.
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This is all Danny Elfman's music.
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In a fantasy,
his music has always been really important
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because he really helps set
the emotional tone of things
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in terms of when you're mixing things
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that are supposed to be dramatic,
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visual, somewhat not real.
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He kind of helps make it feel more real.
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The first project I worked with Danny on
was Pee-wee's Big Adventure.
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That was sort of both our first
real studio feature film
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so we feel like we've started at the same time
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and, you know, gone through
the same kind of experiences.
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Again, he's always good at capturing
that weird tone that we try to go for.
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When I met Johnny
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I knew right away that he was the one.
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I had a feeling about it.
I didn't know his work very well.
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I'd never seen 21 Jump Street.
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I'd seen pictures of him.
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Then Denise and I, the producer, met him
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and knew right away just from meeting him
that he had that sort of quality.
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You could just see it in his eyes.
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That was an important aspect
to the character
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in terms of not having to say anything
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and just being able to project something
simply, much like a silent movie actor.
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I think he also understood
that dynamic of misperception
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because he was seen as a teen idol but I don't
think that's the way he felt inside emotionally.
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So he got that idea of misperception, I think,
that was so part of this character.
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The story developed for me
probably when I was a teenager.
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I liked to draw since I was younger.
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Often images would come up
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and they'd stay with you
and you'd keep drawing them.
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This was a character
that I sketched a while back
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and thought about a lot
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and I think represented those years
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as a teenager
when you were feeling quite intense
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and misperceived
and all those pretty classic things.
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And growing up in Burbank, as well,
heightened those feelings for me.
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So this is very representative
of a lot of feelings and perceptions
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of that time and that place.
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So it was a story that I had in my mind
for a long time.
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Of course, to represent Burbank
we had to go all the way to Florida.
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We found a location east of Tampa
and spent several months there.
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It was quite easy to get into the vibe
and rhythm of this type of life.
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Dianne Wiest. She was one of the first people,
I think, that responded to the script.
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I remember she was really very supportive
of it and the feelings in it.
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She was a real emotional inspiration to it,
and really...
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I remember when she read it, I got the feeling
that she really was into it and believed it.
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She really came through in her performance.
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She really gives it a strong emotional weight
that I was very happy about.
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Casting this was fun because you had
the opportunity for such great characters.
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And again, I always respond to people,
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especially in a project like this
which is not really "real", who make it real.
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And all of these actors were just so great
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at making these
sort of extreme characters real.
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Maybe it was, again, because we were...
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actually in this environment for
over four months, so that probably helped.
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We shot in a real neighbourhood,
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although we of course added
some of the foliage and plant life
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that you see here and later on.
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But it was very close to this.
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We did a little paint job on each house
but it's pretty much as is.
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When I first started drawing the character
they were just more sharp instruments.
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The emotional thrust of it
was a character who couldn't touch,
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a character who had emotions,
who wanted to feel things,
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but because of the sharpness of his fingers
couldn't actually touch somebody.
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So it's sort of a classic fairy-tale-like theme.
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It turned into scissors because of the kinda...
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Well, you know.
You sort of use what's in your environment.
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Scissors and other
suburban-type instruments
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that sort of became the visual end to it.
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This we built on the I think only slight hill
there is in all of Florida -
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the highest elevation,
which I think is about 20 feet.
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It's always nice to be able to have
the opportunity to build the sets,
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just because I think it really helps everybody -
I mean, the actors, myself, everybody -
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in terms of making it feel like it's real
and you're actually there.
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Well...
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This... is Martha Stewart's house.
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Martha Stewart, when she's old and crazy,
this will be her house.
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I worked with a great designer, Bo Welch,
who I've worked with a few times.
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These things are always sort of organic.
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I mean, we come up with a concept
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and then through him and other illustrators,
myself, you know, and model makers,
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we just kind of end up with what it is here.
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You know, it was a really good design team.
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People who, as you can see, know how to do,
like, sort of not-straight angles artfully,
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which is quite nice.
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This is on the Fox set. We shot both in Florida
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and on the Fox studio lot
for this interior mansion stuff.
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The first film I ever did
was a short film called Vincent.
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I was just... I remember sending it to him
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in little booklet form, and he wrote me back.
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It was such an amazing thing
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because he was the first person
of that type and that sort of stature
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that was very supportive of me.
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Somebody that I had idolised so much
and then to meet them and be so nice,
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it was first off an amazing experience,
and then for this part,
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which was such a meaningful part,
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it gave it that much more gravity to me
when he did it.
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Because it's those kind of roles
which are small but really special,
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when you have somebody like him
it just makes it so much better.
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I worked with Stan Winston and his people
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on the look of Edward and the scissors
and they did a great job.
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I mean, because I had, like,
really simplistic sketches.
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They were just really good at taking those
and bringing it into the third dimension.
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They sort of understood things
on a textural level that was just really great.
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And we were able to give Johnny
scissors early on
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so he could go home and wear them all day
and see what it was like to be this character
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which was probably
one of the most helpful things to him.
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Dianne got the tone of it beautifully.
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It's very hard I think sometimes
to get a mixture of things
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that are funny and still have emotional weight
to them at the same time.
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She was very good at that.
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We gave him these hands
a while before shooting.
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I think actually it became
closer to life than...
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I think some of those scars on his face were
actually real by the time we started shooting.
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It becomes very apparent very quickly
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what happens to you
when you have hands like that.
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A lot of the characters in this
are either fantasy
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or represented on some people that I knew.
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Sometimes a combination.
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I think the Peg character is more of a fantasy.
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I think she was much more
sort of a type that...
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I sort of wished for in that environment, more.
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The other characters
are a little bit closer to reality.
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Yeah, she's more of a fantasy...
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Avon lady/guardian angel... fantasy.
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Well, this is my husband Bill.
He's a bowling champion.
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Do you know what bowling is?
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Bowling?
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I don't think that's a question
that anybody truly understands - bowling.
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That's a scary shot.
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I actually wore a tuxedo like that,
only it was yellow.
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I tried to get that Sears photograph look.
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I thought they did a pretty good job with that.
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Sears photography.
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Very inviting.
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His outfit's made of a combination of things.
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I think...
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we used latex, we used leather,
we used Naugahyde,
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we used my old sofa in my first apartment.
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We used a lot of different things.
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There's some black tape there, which I think
we needed more of as we went along.
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Yeah.
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So Johnny also had an air-conditioned suit
underneath that
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which I think made
his body temperature even hotter.
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I think it was quite difficult for him
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because shooting in Florida
was quite hot and humid
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and being covered head to toe pretty much
all the time with makeup and this
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and not being able to use his hands...
it was pretty intense.
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Playing a role like this, you see what it's like
to get dressed without using your hands.
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So you learn something new
every time on a film.
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In this neighbourhood, we basically
had to take over the neighbourhood
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and basically rent out 50 of the houses
in the neighbourhood.
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I think the people that rented out,
they went to a nearby...
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I don't know if it was a Super 8 motel
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or something like that nearby.
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We had some of the locals as extras
until they saw what it was like
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and realised that they'd rather go back
to a high-paying job
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in something a little easier,
like a restaurant job,
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because it was pretty harsh.
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The atmosphere was quite hot
and quite long hours
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so I think the glamour of show business
wore off pretty quick.
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I was so happy to work with Alan Arkin too
because he was such a great actor.
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I realised as I was working with him
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that he's done so many great things,
each time as a different character.
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I forgot which movies he had been in
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because he was such a good character
in each one.
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He would just become those characters.
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He became this character,
which was quite scary to be,
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because he's, like, direct from Burbank.
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We had to paint everybody's house
back to the original colours,
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although I think that there was a move
by some of the residents
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to keep them this colour.
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Initially they didn't like it
but after a few months
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some of them, I think, liked it.
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I think ultimately we ended up having to
paint them back and take out the topiaries.
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I was never quite sure
how Avon responded to the film.
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I always thought it was a positive portrayal,
but, uh...
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I didn't have Johnny shave his eyebrows off.
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We had appliances put on over his eyes
to sort of...
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People are a little weird about shaving.
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They'll shave their heads, they'll shave
their bodies, but their eyebrows...
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It's a little scary. So we had a little bit of
appliances and a few scar appliances as well.
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Plus some real ones.
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This was fun
to see the neighbourhood transform
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when we started putting in these sculptures.
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It really did change
the character of the neighbourhood
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and it was pretty amazing.
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My parents live now in the Lake Tahoe area.
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Up until very recently they lived in Burbank.
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Alan Arkin, I thought,
really got this suburban detachment
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in a way that was really quite strong
and quite scary.
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I remember in my own neighbourhood this
dynamic where you'd never see anybody
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unless there was some sort of weird thing
going on in the neighbourhood
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or a minor car accident
or some sort of drama,
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and then everybody would come out
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and it would sort of become
like a big block party or lawn party.
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It's always interesting,
the kind of weird dynamic
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which gets people into
such a sort of social mood.
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I realised this film could be a result
of watching a lot of those K-tel ads
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with all these weird products growing up.
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Looking at this,
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I didn't realise that the inspiration
could be the pocket fisherman.
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These kinda ads... I see these shots and
they kind of remind me of those commercials.
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It was fun to actually be able to have this stuff
built to life-scale too, and working.
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It always gives it a much more energetic
and alive feeling
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when you can do this on a set
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as opposed to doing it all after the fact
or in postproduction.
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Even all the way up till the end of his life
he was such an amazing person.
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So elegant and such an amazing mind
and just so positive.
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I remember him from the very beginning
when I met him to the end
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as just being extremely interested in things,
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extremely generous
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with himself and his feelings.
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Again, I think, he really...
not only for me but for Johnny,
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he really embellished his performance
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just by the nature of the person
playing this part, so it was really great.
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Lots of scary scenes in this movie.
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All these actors were great, too, because,
you know, they took...
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Obviously, look at the way they're dressed.
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They'd take these characters
which look quite extreme
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but they were all such great actresses, they
could give it a reality that was really good.
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And we got to use Hawaiian music.
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This guy is Stuart Lancaster.
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He's the star of Faster, Pussycat! Kill! Kill!
which is a great movie.
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He used to be one of Russ Meyer's actors
in all of his films.
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Unfortunately I think Johnny did this
about 20 times, so he had 20 takes of...
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There were two things in this movie
that made Johnny throw up.
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I think this was one,
and then a running scene later on.
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I think only two. I'm only aware of two.
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I started drawing when I was younger
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and I always found it was
a way to explore different ideas.
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Sometimes if an image stayed with me
for a while in drawing
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I would start to analyse it
and think about it
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and maybe develop it further.
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This was the second time
I worked with Winona.
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I treated it differently. In Beetlejuice,
she was playing a darker character
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and I thought because
she's got that quality to her
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that it would be fun to see her play
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more of a normal suburban type,
which she's not.
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It was fun to see her play a character like that.
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I always drew. I like monster movies
and I think I drew from that.
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But I never considered
the things I liked to draw dark,
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because most things,
especially if they stayed with me,
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had a more emotional subtext to them
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so therefore I never saw them as really dark.
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They always seemed more positive in a way.
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Even monster movies I never saw as dark.
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I always had a somewhat twisted perception
of that sort of thing.
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Yeah, bunk beds are sort of...
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They just somehow...
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Even though they're not really suburban,
they seem such a suburban phenomenon.
259
00:44:42,054 --> 00:44:45,683
Shooting in Florida, there were times,
especially on this scene,
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where it was so thick with these black bugs
you couldn't shoot. It was, uh...
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00:44:52,565 --> 00:44:55,943
It looked like the grainiest film in the world
262
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because it was thick with these black bugs.
263
00:45:03,617 --> 00:45:08,080
Florida was quite a harsh environment
to shoot a film, strangely enough.
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00:45:37,401 --> 00:45:42,781
All the clouds - most of them,
99% of them - were real.
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00:45:43,866 --> 00:45:47,202
The thing is, the weather in Florida
moves so fast.
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Every take is like almost
a different day completely
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00:45:51,415 --> 00:45:55,586
because the clouds
move in and out in seconds.
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00:45:55,669 --> 00:46:04,053
So it's not the greatest place to shoot
if you're trying to match skies and things.
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00:46:51,392 --> 00:46:54,937
I always like these dinner table scenes.
They seem very real to me
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in terms of trying to get the sound
and the sort of starkness and the...
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00:48:50,886 --> 00:48:53,138
One of the thematic things for me
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was the sort of growing up
in a certain kind of suburbia
273
00:48:58,143 --> 00:49:02,689
where you were never quite aware
of how people were really feeling.
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00:49:02,773 --> 00:49:08,278
There was not a real sense of...
on the outward side,
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of emotional... subtext, I think.
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So you never quite...
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00:49:15,244 --> 00:49:19,873
Things were always very surface-orientated,
at least in my recollection of it.
278
00:49:19,957 --> 00:49:26,630
You never really got a sense
of anything behind things.
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It was always very surface-quality.
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00:49:33,512 --> 00:49:38,684
I remember thinking, watching
Frankenstein and the angry villagers,
281
00:49:38,767 --> 00:49:43,063
that it reminded me of certain things
in the neighbourhood
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in the sense of never really getting
283
00:49:46,817 --> 00:49:49,820
a sense of individuality, or sort of...
284
00:49:54,158 --> 00:49:56,243
again, an emotional context to things.
285
00:49:56,326 --> 00:50:02,332
It always felt like the villagers
in Frankenstein.
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00:50:34,031 --> 00:50:38,118
I don't know if it's because of the media,
but everybody's got to the point now
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00:50:38,202 --> 00:50:41,371
where they take these causes
without really feeling them
288
00:50:41,455 --> 00:50:47,127
or really knowing about things - it's, uh...
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00:50:50,631 --> 00:50:56,803
There seem to be more lists
and people grading people, you know?
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00:50:56,887 --> 00:51:04,269
And magazines that score things
and grade things and categorise things.
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00:51:04,353 --> 00:51:10,025
It sort of makes everybody think that way.
I don't know how positive that is.
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00:53:54,940 --> 00:53:58,193
The cameraman I worked with,
Stefan Czapsky, is great.
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00:53:58,276 --> 00:54:01,738
He did a couple of other films
that I worked on.
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00:54:01,822 --> 00:54:08,995
He did Ed Wood and Batman Returns
and he's great to work with.
295
00:54:09,830 --> 00:54:14,876
Again, he's able to really capture
a nice fairy-tale quality
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that we were trying to get.
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00:54:22,592 --> 00:54:26,012
For some reason we ended up
using a lot of wide lenses.
298
00:54:26,096 --> 00:54:32,227
I don't know, to capture the starkness
and wonderment of suburbia.
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00:54:44,990 --> 00:54:48,493
I got to work with the great John Davidson.
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00:54:54,207 --> 00:54:59,713
One thing about doing a movie, you always
get to meet kind of great, weird people
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00:54:59,796 --> 00:55:01,965
that you wouldn't ordinarily meet.
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00:55:02,048 --> 00:55:07,888
It's one of the more surreal,
great aspects of filmmaking.
303
00:55:20,901 --> 00:55:26,364
I did this to prove that I too
could do bad daytime television.
304
00:55:54,100 --> 00:55:57,145
It really makes you want
to see this show, doesn't it?
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00:56:17,707 --> 00:56:20,210
I thought Winona's blonde wig
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00:56:20,293 --> 00:56:26,466
would sort of make her into
a dark Hayley-Mills-type character.
307
00:57:04,129 --> 00:57:07,632
One of the last of the great outdoor malls.
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00:57:09,175 --> 00:57:13,680
But in Florida there still seems
to be a few of them.
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00:58:18,078 --> 00:58:22,707
I decided to use Tom Jones' music
in this because...
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00:58:22,791 --> 00:58:29,381
Again, I remember growing up that I never got
the sense that anybody listened to music
311
00:58:29,464 --> 00:58:31,925
but everybody liked Tom Jones.
312
00:58:32,008 --> 00:58:38,932
It was amazing, because it was almost like
the music of the neighbourhood, so to speak.
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00:58:39,933 --> 00:58:45,271
But it did show they that did have good taste
because he's great.
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00:58:45,355 --> 00:58:48,900
He's a great guy and a great musician
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00:58:48,983 --> 00:58:52,153
with an amazing voice.
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00:58:53,613 --> 00:58:59,953
I guess if they were gonna like one thing,
they picked something pretty good.
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00:59:21,850 --> 00:59:25,729
I also have to hand it to all the actors
for wearing these clothes.
318
00:59:25,812 --> 00:59:29,858
It was probably the hardest thing
to do on this movie.
319
00:59:29,941 --> 00:59:35,405
It was a little scary. You were never quite sure
what somebody was gonna show up in.
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01:00:11,024 --> 01:00:15,653
I always enjoyed the dinner-time
conversations too.
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01:00:15,737 --> 01:00:18,698
We went for real reality with these.
322
01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:47,031
More Sears photography.
323
01:04:08,094 --> 01:04:11,139
We had a conversation pit built in.
324
01:04:43,838 --> 01:04:47,467
Just how the Burbank police
would have done it.
325
01:05:31,094 --> 01:05:35,056
Anthony Michael Hall
did a good job on this too.
326
01:05:35,139 --> 01:05:38,101
He's played all sorts of different types of roles
327
01:05:38,184 --> 01:05:39,727
but this...
328
01:05:39,811 --> 01:05:46,859
I thought he captured that sort of
Eddie-Haskell-on-steroids quality
329
01:05:49,529 --> 01:05:53,074
like guys you remember from high school.
330
01:06:24,230 --> 01:06:30,653
These were the only type of events that would
bring people out into their yards, usually.
331
01:08:07,041 --> 01:08:13,839
That scene was for people that don't think
my films have any psychological value
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01:08:13,923 --> 01:08:16,425
or foundation to them.
333
01:08:19,887 --> 01:08:22,431
It's a very deep movie.
334
01:08:57,258 --> 01:09:01,846
We're definitely in the age where media
335
01:09:01,929 --> 01:09:06,475
and the way people can change
very quickly on an issue
336
01:09:06,559 --> 01:09:09,854
or adopt an issue without really feeling it
337
01:09:09,937 --> 01:09:13,899
and it seems to get more and more that way.
338
01:10:06,577 --> 01:10:11,749
Both these actors
have a great silent-movie quality.
339
01:10:12,124 --> 01:10:16,295
They're able to say something with their eyes
without having to speak,
340
01:10:16,420 --> 01:10:23,219
and that's without lines and acting
through bad hairstyles and everything.
341
01:10:25,471 --> 01:10:30,017
It's always great to see people
bring this kind of material to life.
342
01:11:56,187 --> 01:11:58,481
Suburban logic.
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01:13:56,849 --> 01:13:59,351
Christmas in suburbia
was always strange too
344
01:13:59,435 --> 01:14:04,440
because there was always this sense
of decoration and intensity
345
01:14:04,523 --> 01:14:09,069
without any real feeling
346
01:14:09,153 --> 01:14:12,573
or about any real tradition.
347
01:14:12,656 --> 01:14:15,784
It was an odd phenomenon.
348
01:14:29,548 --> 01:14:36,805
Except for, of course, the yearly tradition
of assembling the Christmas tree.
349
01:14:36,889 --> 01:14:39,266
That was, I guess, a tradition.
350
01:15:06,752 --> 01:15:09,546
This is one of my favourite shots.
351
01:15:15,260 --> 01:15:18,472
Being on the roof in suburbia
352
01:15:18,555 --> 01:15:24,186
is a very exhilarating,
beautiful, private moment.
353
01:15:24,269 --> 01:15:30,109
It's one of the strange few places of peace
in that type of environment.
354
01:16:14,820 --> 01:16:22,953
Of course, ice in Florida is not the easiest
thing to get, or extremely cold temperatures.
355
01:16:23,662 --> 01:16:27,374
So we shot this in a combination
of the actual location, Florida,
356
01:16:27,458 --> 01:16:32,629
and then also in a meat freezer,
I think, in Long Beach.
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01:17:24,973 --> 01:17:32,731
We used actual snow,
we used plastic chips and a glittery texture,
358
01:17:32,815 --> 01:17:38,403
a few different things to try to get
the wet quality as well as the sparkle.
359
01:18:52,019 --> 01:18:54,104
We shot a couple of scenes,
360
01:18:54,187 --> 01:18:56,398
a scene where Edward is in the hospital,
361
01:18:56,481 --> 01:19:00,110
on the first day of shooting
that we didn't use.
362
01:19:00,193 --> 01:19:04,031
Part of it was because we didn't need it
and part of it was
363
01:19:04,364 --> 01:19:06,408
because his makeup changed,
364
01:19:06,491 --> 01:19:10,203
even though we had done testing beforehand.
365
01:19:10,287 --> 01:19:12,372
The first couple of days of shooting,
366
01:19:12,497 --> 01:19:16,501
it took a while to get the rhythm
and the actual look of him
367
01:19:16,585 --> 01:19:20,964
so his look was actually different
that first day of shooting
368
01:19:21,048 --> 01:19:24,176
to the rest of the filming.
369
01:19:25,802 --> 01:19:29,473
That in combination with the fact
that we didn't need it anyway.
370
01:19:57,334 --> 01:20:01,046
The actors were so good,
we might have improvised a little.
371
01:20:01,129 --> 01:20:07,052
We kept pretty close to the script
but the actors were really good at sort of...
372
01:20:07,135 --> 01:20:12,265
Because it was a fantasy, we wanted
to make sure everything sounded real
373
01:20:12,349 --> 01:20:15,102
even if it was heightened.
374
01:20:15,185 --> 01:20:18,146
I think everybody was sensitive throughout
375
01:20:18,230 --> 01:20:24,319
to finding the right tone,
maybe changing a word or two here or there
376
01:20:24,403 --> 01:20:28,740
just to make it feel more real.
377
01:20:32,369 --> 01:20:35,872
But the story pretty much stayed as it was.
378
01:20:39,209 --> 01:20:41,545
We kept to the script.
379
01:21:03,442 --> 01:21:09,406
Somehow, just, like, in suburbia
everybody seems to get a little crazier
380
01:21:09,489 --> 01:21:11,825
around Christmas. I don't know...
381
01:21:11,908 --> 01:21:14,578
There was always a weirder sense of energy
382
01:21:14,661 --> 01:21:19,666
that didn't seem to have so much
to do with the actual holiday
383
01:21:19,750 --> 01:21:26,214
but was just a weird,
kind of strange, guilt-like energy.
384
01:21:39,269 --> 01:21:43,565
Yeah, I think people
feel pressured by their families
385
01:21:43,648 --> 01:21:49,821
and it brings all the skeletons
from the closets more out in the open.
386
01:22:20,393 --> 01:22:24,314
You're never quite sure
where Bill has been, what he's doing.
387
01:22:24,397 --> 01:22:27,651
That's what I loved about that character.
388
01:22:27,734 --> 01:22:31,530
He's got a very strange private life, I think,
389
01:22:32,364 --> 01:22:36,159
that even his family doesn't know about.
390
01:23:09,067 --> 01:23:13,864
I've worked with dogs and horses and I'm
convinced horses don't like show business
391
01:23:13,947 --> 01:23:16,741
but dogs do. Dogs seem to really...
392
01:23:16,825 --> 01:23:23,957
They're the only animal I've worked with
that seemed to really enjoy show business.
393
01:23:24,040 --> 01:23:26,376
All other animals don't.
394
01:23:32,299 --> 01:23:34,593
I think Johnny or Caroline...
395
01:23:34,676 --> 01:23:39,347
Sombody... Everybody used
their own inspiration for their character
396
01:23:39,431 --> 01:23:42,142
and maybe it was Caroline
or Johnny, one of them,
397
01:23:42,225 --> 01:23:45,478
used the inspiration of a dog
that they had had.
398
01:23:45,562 --> 01:23:49,983
That was very much an aspect
to his character as well.
399
01:23:53,445 --> 01:23:56,364
A sort of simple, unconditional quality.
400
01:24:16,176 --> 01:24:20,680
This moment was sort of
what the movie was based on, in a way.
401
01:26:09,289 --> 01:26:12,125
It was very powerful shooting this,
I remember,
402
01:26:12,208 --> 01:26:15,545
just given Vincent's age and all,
403
01:26:15,628 --> 01:26:21,426
and what this scene was about
was quite strong for everybody.
404
01:27:34,457 --> 01:27:38,253
Yeah, I went to school with guys like this.
405
01:27:38,336 --> 01:27:43,466
That's who I thought of. We definitely had
a model to capture everybody
406
01:27:43,550 --> 01:27:46,594
so you could feel
whether they were getting it.
407
01:27:46,678 --> 01:27:53,017
I think Anthony Michael Hall really
got a certain type of person quite well.
408
01:28:10,827 --> 01:28:14,289
I went to public school,
Burbank public school.
409
01:28:14,372 --> 01:28:17,625
I always love this phenomenon
of sitting in your garage.
410
01:28:17,709 --> 01:28:21,296
It's like you're sitting in your own TV set
looking out at the world.
411
01:28:21,379 --> 01:28:24,215
Somehow the door is the shape of it.
412
01:28:25,467 --> 01:28:30,472
I remember people loving
to sit in their garage and look out.
413
01:30:08,111 --> 01:30:11,656
I think this was the other thing
that made Johnny sick.
414
01:30:11,739 --> 01:30:13,533
He did this like six times,
415
01:30:13,616 --> 01:30:17,870
this dead-on run from... all the way to the end
416
01:30:17,954 --> 01:30:22,250
and I think at the end of the sixth time
he never came back!
417
01:30:22,333 --> 01:30:25,837
He was in the bushes throwing up, I think.
418
01:31:21,726 --> 01:31:24,145
The angry villagers.
419
01:31:32,737 --> 01:31:36,115
We decided against giving them torches.
420
01:35:40,151 --> 01:35:46,157
It was nice to be able to kind of keep it,
you know, the way that we wanted to.
421
01:35:47,783 --> 01:35:53,539
Often when you do a movie for a studio
they want you to give it a happy ending.
422
01:35:53,623 --> 01:35:57,835
You know? And that's what's great
about a lot of old fairy tales.
423
01:35:57,919 --> 01:36:02,256
They sort of end on a different note.
424
01:36:02,340 --> 01:36:05,301
That's sort of what this is about.
425
01:36:05,885 --> 01:36:08,512
I'm glad we didn't have
to look at any research
426
01:36:08,596 --> 01:36:10,806
and change it to a happy ending or anything
427
01:36:10,890 --> 01:36:16,896
and that it could have this sort of
more bittersweet ending to it.
428
01:36:17,939 --> 01:36:23,819
So I was always grateful that I didn't have
to go through that struggle with this.
429
01:36:45,424 --> 01:36:51,389
I was lucky on this project because I think
the studio got the original intent of it.
430
01:36:51,472 --> 01:36:55,184
Other times I've had experiences
where, you know...
431
01:36:55,267 --> 01:36:57,228
When I did that short film Vincent
432
01:36:57,311 --> 01:37:01,732
where the kid basically has the impression
of not living at the end
433
01:37:01,816 --> 01:37:03,234
though it's in his mind,
434
01:37:03,567 --> 01:37:05,528
they wanted me to have him get up
435
01:37:05,611 --> 01:37:10,366
and have it be a happy ending,
which was the exact opposite point of it.
436
01:37:10,449 --> 01:37:17,456
I was lucky on this
that they got the original point of it
437
01:37:17,540 --> 01:37:23,587
and the longing aspect of it
and the bittersweet quality to it in the end.
438
01:37:23,671 --> 01:37:30,052
That was a fight that I didn't have to fight,
which was nice.
439
01:38:39,914 --> 01:38:44,043
The last shot of the movie I remember
as being quite beautiful to shoot.
440
01:38:44,126 --> 01:38:48,089
It's a shot that... Some shots look so good,
they look like miniatures in a way,
441
01:38:48,172 --> 01:38:51,842
and this one looks like a miniature
but to see it there live,
442
01:38:51,926 --> 01:38:55,596
this full-scale mansion
with snow pouring out of the windows,
443
01:38:55,679 --> 01:39:01,102
was really amazing
and I remember feeling at that moment...
444
01:39:01,185 --> 01:39:06,649
You know when you're getting an image
that's really strong and beautiful.
445
01:39:06,732 --> 01:39:08,901
It's great.
446
01:39:58,367 --> 01:40:00,703
So, that's it. Thank you.
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