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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:07,207 --> 00:00:08,809 [crowd cheers] 2 00:00:08,876 --> 00:00:12,512 - You are looking live at the Lincoln Financial Field 3 00:00:12,579 --> 00:00:14,948 in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. 4 00:00:14,948 --> 00:00:17,985 - Of course, ECW gained prominence only a few miles 5 00:00:18,051 --> 00:00:19,520 from this very stadium. 6 00:00:20,220 --> 00:00:22,623 - What's really cool is that they are really celebrating 7 00:00:22,623 --> 00:00:24,224 the Philadelphia experience. 8 00:00:24,291 --> 00:00:26,226 As you see right here, ECW, 9 00:00:26,226 --> 00:00:28,896 everyone knows that was started right here 10 00:00:28,996 --> 00:00:30,564 in Philadelphia. 11 00:00:32,065 --> 00:00:33,033 - It's Philly. 12 00:00:33,934 --> 00:00:35,469 You took us in. 13 00:00:35,469 --> 00:00:36,436 They made us their own. 14 00:00:37,604 --> 00:00:38,572 They gave us a home. 15 00:00:39,706 --> 00:00:41,408 They gave us a town to burn down. 16 00:00:42,309 --> 00:00:43,944 [fireworks] 17 00:00:44,044 --> 00:00:47,080 So here we are in 2024. 18 00:00:47,147 --> 00:00:49,883 It's WrestleMania XL, 19 00:00:49,950 --> 00:00:54,554 and we're in of all places, Philadelphia. 20 00:00:54,621 --> 00:00:58,125 The birthplace of ECW. 21 00:00:58,792 --> 00:01:03,630 And all the merchandise is "Wrestle F'N Mania." 22 00:01:03,697 --> 00:01:07,601 What an interesting "F'N" concept. 23 00:01:07,668 --> 00:01:13,807 This revolution did take place and we did change the industry. 24 00:01:13,874 --> 00:01:14,841 - Shattered the table. 25 00:01:14,908 --> 00:01:17,611 - It just took a while for it all to settle in. 26 00:01:17,678 --> 00:01:18,912 - Through the table. 27 00:01:18,912 --> 00:01:23,584 - And this WrestleMania is truly the validation 28 00:01:23,584 --> 00:01:28,522 of everything we all worked so very hard for- 29 00:01:32,292 --> 00:01:33,727 [crowd chants "ECW"] 30 00:01:33,794 --> 00:01:37,464 - The story of Extreme Championship Wrestling is that 31 00:01:37,531 --> 00:01:43,503 it was so real, real to a degree that this industry 32 00:01:43,604 --> 00:01:45,205 has never seen before. 33 00:01:47,007 --> 00:01:49,443 - EC [bleep] W. 34 00:01:50,544 --> 00:01:52,913 - ECW was a place to put the misfits. 35 00:01:53,380 --> 00:01:55,048 And in the '90s, we needed that. 36 00:01:55,616 --> 00:01:59,019 - It was us against the entire wrestling business. 37 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:01,121 - Those are hard guys. 38 00:02:01,188 --> 00:02:02,789 Authentic, hard individuals. 39 00:02:03,256 --> 00:02:04,424 And that's the bottom line. 40 00:02:05,425 --> 00:02:07,761 - There were branding irons, barbed wire, 41 00:02:07,828 --> 00:02:10,697 someone set on fire. 42 00:02:10,797 --> 00:02:13,800 - This is ECW, this is hardcore. 43 00:02:13,867 --> 00:02:16,370 - Unless you've been to an ECW show, 44 00:02:16,436 --> 00:02:18,038 you have not seen it all. 45 00:02:19,206 --> 00:02:21,842 - We were born to crash and burn as a company. 46 00:02:22,309 --> 00:02:25,612 But ECW changed the wrestling business forever. 47 00:02:27,714 --> 00:02:31,151 - This is the ECW. 48 00:02:35,288 --> 00:02:37,224 I love your shoes, babe, gotta go, okay. 49 00:02:37,391 --> 00:02:41,261 Hey, I was out here before, and before-before we started 50 00:02:41,261 --> 00:02:44,431 production today, and they said, "Paul E., what is your 51 00:02:44,498 --> 00:02:46,967 definition of professional wrestling? 52 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:50,270 Is it the technique, the NCAA, the Olympic-style wrestlers?" 53 00:02:50,337 --> 00:02:51,438 I said, "No, that's not it." 54 00:02:51,505 --> 00:02:52,806 I said, "Excitement." 55 00:02:52,873 --> 00:02:54,474 That's my game, excitement. 56 00:02:54,541 --> 00:02:56,910 Paul E. Dangerously stands for excitement. 57 00:02:59,279 --> 00:03:03,917 - In the mid-80s, Paul Heyman was known as Paul E. Dangerously 58 00:03:03,984 --> 00:03:06,620 and was making a name for himself as an 59 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,256 incredible wrestling manager. 60 00:03:09,356 --> 00:03:11,258 - The greatest professional wrestling manager 61 00:03:11,358 --> 00:03:12,793 in the world today. 62 00:03:13,293 --> 00:03:16,997 - Just this brash, smarter-than-you guy that would 63 00:03:17,064 --> 00:03:21,268 walk to the ring in a suit that was too loud with a mullet and 64 00:03:21,268 --> 00:03:23,203 that giant brick cell phone. 65 00:03:24,004 --> 00:03:25,772 - With the million-dollar suits, with a telephone, 66 00:03:25,839 --> 00:03:28,475 and I got a whole lot of surprises in store for you. 67 00:03:29,443 --> 00:03:32,112 - Paul and I had bonded tremendously in WCW, 68 00:03:32,112 --> 00:03:33,513 as he was my manager. 69 00:03:33,580 --> 00:03:34,915 - Steve, you're the man. 70 00:03:35,916 --> 00:03:38,018 - Paul E. was one of the people in my life 71 00:03:38,118 --> 00:03:41,054 who was paramount as far as my success in this business. 72 00:03:42,422 --> 00:03:46,793 - Fans like us saw Paul Heyman as this amazing manager, but he 73 00:03:46,860 --> 00:03:51,264 also had this kind of rebellious wrestling brain that was 74 00:03:51,331 --> 00:03:54,634 constantly trying to take the product that we saw 75 00:03:54,701 --> 00:03:56,837 in a different direction. 76 00:03:57,270 --> 00:03:59,439 - I don't like what wrestling is all about anymore. 77 00:03:59,506 --> 00:04:03,210 I don't like the shape that wrestling is in. 78 00:04:05,245 --> 00:04:10,050 At the time, both WWE and WCW 79 00:04:10,117 --> 00:04:11,885 were really behind the times. 80 00:04:13,053 --> 00:04:16,389 Everybody was a wrestling character stuck in the Hulk 81 00:04:16,456 --> 00:04:18,792 Hogan era, and that era was ending. 82 00:04:19,593 --> 00:04:20,861 - Doink and Dink. 83 00:04:20,861 --> 00:04:22,229 [laughs] 84 00:04:22,295 --> 00:04:23,396 Whoa. 85 00:04:23,997 --> 00:04:25,432 Look out, a kick of the shins. 86 00:04:25,932 --> 00:04:26,867 - Unbelievable. 87 00:04:26,933 --> 00:04:28,034 - Dink's having a laugh. 88 00:04:28,869 --> 00:04:32,205 - Paul had been around and-and-and had worked in 89 00:04:32,272 --> 00:04:34,241 different promotions around the country, so he had a little bit 90 00:04:34,307 --> 00:04:36,009 of this and a little bit of that. 91 00:04:36,376 --> 00:04:39,613 And Paul wasn't afraid to look outside the box. 92 00:04:40,714 --> 00:04:45,185 - You can't change the system from the outside bitching. 93 00:04:45,252 --> 00:04:49,356 You can only change the system from the inside, implementing a 94 00:04:49,422 --> 00:04:52,559 new vision, so I started building my reputation 95 00:04:52,626 --> 00:04:53,593 behind the scenes. 96 00:04:54,861 --> 00:04:58,465 - And it wasn't long before people started to take notice 97 00:04:58,465 --> 00:05:00,267 of Paul Heyman's creativity. 98 00:05:02,235 --> 00:05:05,806 - I started running the creative in the mid-1990s for a small 99 00:05:05,872 --> 00:05:09,309 promotion that got a TV clearance called Eastern 100 00:05:09,309 --> 00:05:13,146 Championship Wrestling, ECW. 101 00:05:14,214 --> 00:05:17,184 - And it was just a natural fit at that particular time. 102 00:05:17,250 --> 00:05:18,285 It was all Paul. 103 00:05:18,351 --> 00:05:19,953 He was really running to take the ball and ran 104 00:05:20,020 --> 00:05:21,188 with it completely. 105 00:05:21,788 --> 00:05:23,523 - Tod was the owner. 106 00:05:23,590 --> 00:05:28,228 Paul Heyman was the creative mind behind ECW. 107 00:05:29,462 --> 00:05:35,468 - I was so ready to do something new and different 108 00:05:35,468 --> 00:05:36,436 and innovative. 109 00:05:36,836 --> 00:05:38,271 Almost 20 years after the movie Network 110 00:05:38,271 --> 00:05:39,873 and Peter Finch was right. 111 00:05:39,940 --> 00:05:43,810 I'm mad as hell and I'm not gonna take it anymore. 112 00:05:44,311 --> 00:05:49,549 Professional wrestling needed to be taken to the extreme. 113 00:05:50,784 --> 00:05:52,586 This ain't no freaking circus. 114 00:05:53,186 --> 00:05:57,524 This is ECW. 115 00:05:57,591 --> 00:05:59,125 [crowd cheers] 116 00:06:00,460 --> 00:06:04,965 - The timing of ECW really coincided with this cultural 117 00:06:05,031 --> 00:06:07,434 awakening that we saw in the early 90s. 118 00:06:08,268 --> 00:06:13,573 We had the birth of grunge and a lot more attitude, and people 119 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:15,275 just kinda seemed to come out of their shell 120 00:06:15,342 --> 00:06:17,277 collectively as a culture. 121 00:06:18,545 --> 00:06:20,280 - This is extreme. 122 00:06:21,548 --> 00:06:23,783 - Extreme was one of those words that was-was being-- 123 00:06:23,783 --> 00:06:25,785 Everything was extreme. 124 00:06:25,852 --> 00:06:28,922 The X sports had just started getting, uh, a lot of exposure. 125 00:06:28,989 --> 00:06:31,625 It was being thrown around a lot in-in the advertising world, 126 00:06:31,691 --> 00:06:32,993 and everybody was calling everything they wanted 127 00:06:33,059 --> 00:06:34,828 to get noticed extreme. 128 00:06:36,296 --> 00:06:37,397 - We pull the trigger. 129 00:06:37,464 --> 00:06:39,299 We go from Eastern to Extreme. 130 00:06:40,033 --> 00:06:41,268 - Hello, everyone, and welcome 131 00:06:41,268 --> 00:06:43,036 to Extreme Championship Wrestling. 132 00:06:43,103 --> 00:06:45,472 This is Joey Styles in the eagle's nest, 133 00:06:45,538 --> 00:06:48,108 high above the ECW arena. 134 00:06:48,174 --> 00:06:50,510 And you are watching the wrestling promotion that's 135 00:06:50,577 --> 00:06:52,646 changing the face of the sport today. 136 00:06:53,713 --> 00:06:56,483 This is as extreme as it gets. 137 00:06:59,319 --> 00:07:00,920 - ECW were the renegades. 138 00:07:00,987 --> 00:07:01,988 They were the misfits. 139 00:07:02,422 --> 00:07:04,591 - ECW. 140 00:07:04,958 --> 00:07:07,160 - They were the group of wrestlers that 141 00:07:07,227 --> 00:07:10,063 just did everything their own way. 142 00:07:11,264 --> 00:07:15,068 - Well, ECW understood with Paul Heyman at the helm that you 143 00:07:15,068 --> 00:07:21,541 could not out WWE WWE, and you could not out WCW WCW, 144 00:07:21,641 --> 00:07:23,543 so they did not even try. 145 00:07:24,711 --> 00:07:27,881 - These two have used everything in an attempt to destroy one 146 00:07:27,948 --> 00:07:31,551 another, including, yes, the kitchen sink. 147 00:07:32,585 --> 00:07:37,557 - Instead of having pyro and the glitz and the glamor, 148 00:07:37,624 --> 00:07:39,125 we had Fight Club. 149 00:07:39,859 --> 00:07:41,227 It's a guilty pleasure. 150 00:07:41,895 --> 00:07:44,631 I'm not really supposed to watch this, but I'm gonna. 151 00:07:45,865 --> 00:07:50,670 - Professional wrestling was more aimed at children 152 00:07:50,737 --> 00:07:52,005 in the early 90s. 153 00:07:52,672 --> 00:07:56,409 With ECW, that's one thing that really made it different. 154 00:07:56,910 --> 00:08:00,613 - Hey, I'm Jenna Jameson and, you know, I've seen some really, 155 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:05,919 really extreme things in my lifetime, but nothing, nothing, 156 00:08:05,986 --> 00:08:11,358 nothing compares to ECW. 157 00:08:11,825 --> 00:08:14,594 - They were for sure aiming at adults. 158 00:08:14,994 --> 00:08:16,463 - This is hardcore. 159 00:08:16,529 --> 00:08:17,597 You wanna be a clown? 160 00:08:17,664 --> 00:08:19,666 Take 95 back to Connecticut. 161 00:08:19,733 --> 00:08:22,235 Up and down goes Doink the Clown. 162 00:08:23,303 --> 00:08:25,271 - To the extreme, baby, right here. 163 00:08:26,673 --> 00:08:29,476 - There was nobody that the 18 to 34 male demographic could 164 00:08:29,542 --> 00:08:32,512 look at and say, "Oh, yeah, you know what, that's the new thing 165 00:08:32,579 --> 00:08:33,313 that's out there. 166 00:08:33,380 --> 00:08:34,247 Yeah, that's hip. 167 00:08:34,314 --> 00:08:35,181 That's contemporary. 168 00:08:35,281 --> 00:08:35,982 That's hot. 169 00:08:36,082 --> 00:08:36,750 That's today. 170 00:08:36,750 --> 00:08:37,984 That's even progressive. 171 00:08:37,984 --> 00:08:38,952 That's tomorrow." 172 00:08:40,387 --> 00:08:44,758 - ECW was such a small upstart that there was no national 173 00:08:44,824 --> 00:08:46,726 television coverage. 174 00:08:47,227 --> 00:08:52,265 When I finally found it, it was on MSG Network at one o'clock in 175 00:08:52,265 --> 00:08:55,869 the morning, and you had to hope that you didn't fall asleep 176 00:08:55,935 --> 00:08:57,036 before the show came on. 177 00:08:58,271 --> 00:09:01,074 - When ECW was coming up, it was still in the era where 178 00:09:01,141 --> 00:09:02,442 the internet wasn't as prevalent. 179 00:09:02,942 --> 00:09:06,646 And there was tape trading going on, a lot of it had to be really 180 00:09:06,713 --> 00:09:08,314 grassroots and word of mouth. 181 00:09:09,282 --> 00:09:10,383 - This is a movement. 182 00:09:10,483 --> 00:09:11,951 Like you felt like, "Hey, I'm a part of something from the 183 00:09:12,018 --> 00:09:13,820 ground up." 184 00:09:14,587 --> 00:09:21,461 It was everything that WCW and WWE wasn't at that time. 185 00:09:21,528 --> 00:09:23,963 - EC [bleep] W. 186 00:09:24,030 --> 00:09:26,166 [crowd cheers] 187 00:09:27,734 --> 00:09:30,670 - They just sat about putting out a completely alternative 188 00:09:30,670 --> 00:09:33,506 product than most anyone had ever seen. 189 00:09:34,574 --> 00:09:39,913 - It's gonna be a hot time in ECW. 190 00:09:39,913 --> 00:09:41,147 [crowd cheers] 191 00:09:41,147 --> 00:09:43,583 - He's branding Cactus with a flaming branding iron. 192 00:09:44,317 --> 00:09:48,188 - There were, uh, branding irons, barbed wire. 193 00:09:51,157 --> 00:09:54,828 There were lots of cool ways to cause physical harm. 194 00:09:57,030 --> 00:09:58,465 - I think that was a VCR. 195 00:09:59,265 --> 00:10:01,668 - I'd probably been in ECW a couple of months at that point, 196 00:10:01,668 --> 00:10:02,669 and I'm sitting there going, 197 00:10:02,669 --> 00:10:04,871 "What the hell am I doing for a living? 198 00:10:04,871 --> 00:10:06,873 I mean, this is nuts." 199 00:10:06,873 --> 00:10:09,275 [crowd cheers] 200 00:10:09,342 --> 00:10:11,878 - But the crowd was just so engrossed by it. 201 00:10:13,146 --> 00:10:16,916 - This had become a society enthralled with violence. 202 00:10:24,858 --> 00:10:30,029 The whole mindset of ECW was to be a cult, the cult of extreme. 203 00:10:30,096 --> 00:10:32,599 The tribe of hardcore. 204 00:10:32,665 --> 00:10:37,170 We as one would revolutionize professional wrestling. 205 00:10:42,075 --> 00:10:44,511 - What in God's name are they doing? 206 00:10:46,446 --> 00:10:47,881 They've got Balls Mahoney up. 207 00:10:48,948 --> 00:10:52,485 Powerbomb through the thumbtacks and the fire. 208 00:10:53,319 --> 00:10:54,721 The matchup is over. 209 00:10:55,121 --> 00:10:56,189 Thank God. 210 00:10:57,390 --> 00:11:00,460 - WCW was doing their thing, we were doing ours, 211 00:11:01,461 --> 00:11:03,696 and then you've got this rogue outfit, 212 00:11:03,796 --> 00:11:06,666 ECW, that's on the periphery there 213 00:11:06,733 --> 00:11:08,568 kinda doing their own thing. 214 00:11:09,269 --> 00:11:11,271 - Joey looks flustered and he sweats a little bit. 215 00:11:11,337 --> 00:11:12,705 - Let's do it. 216 00:11:12,805 --> 00:11:17,844 - You're talking about big blockbuster movies versus a 217 00:11:17,911 --> 00:11:19,913 low-budget student film. 218 00:11:20,647 --> 00:11:23,116 - These guys were literally working out 219 00:11:23,182 --> 00:11:25,018 of the post production editor's parent's house. 220 00:11:26,953 --> 00:11:31,858 - We didn't have production, we had Paul and two cameramen. 221 00:11:32,825 --> 00:11:34,594 Paul didn't have an office. 222 00:11:35,428 --> 00:11:40,567 Backstage was a table in the middle of the locker room. 223 00:11:42,068 --> 00:11:45,038 I handled advertising for ECW. 224 00:11:45,638 --> 00:11:48,041 I booked the buildings for ECW. 225 00:11:48,942 --> 00:11:54,080 I handled everything that went on in that company that didn't 226 00:11:54,147 --> 00:11:56,115 deal with the actual show. 227 00:11:58,051 --> 00:12:00,220 - I used to say that ECW survived 228 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:02,222 on balls, [bleep] and bravado. 229 00:12:04,090 --> 00:12:07,560 We didn't have the lighting, we didn't have the pyro. 230 00:12:07,627 --> 00:12:10,496 Our bragging rights came from the fact that no one could do 231 00:12:10,597 --> 00:12:11,564 what we were doing. 232 00:12:12,532 --> 00:12:13,900 - Oh, no. 233 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:14,968 Oh, my God. 234 00:12:16,903 --> 00:12:20,773 - If I'm gonna go somewhere and try to make it, this might be 235 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:25,144 the place I can start and try to make a name for myself here and 236 00:12:25,244 --> 00:12:28,915 then possibly pursue somewhere else down the line. 237 00:12:29,983 --> 00:12:32,952 - Paul Heyman likes to take chances on diamonds in the rough 238 00:12:34,254 --> 00:12:37,590 and doesn't look at your outside as a limitation. 239 00:12:39,425 --> 00:12:42,762 - Dude, you have no idea how many times I've been arrested in 240 00:12:42,829 --> 00:12:46,065 a barroom brawl from the ages of, let's say, like, 241 00:12:46,132 --> 00:12:48,668 18 to, like, 22. 242 00:12:48,768 --> 00:12:50,837 Paul E. goes, "Just go be you." 243 00:12:53,606 --> 00:12:55,675 - The Sandman is not a good wrestler. 244 00:12:56,509 --> 00:12:59,312 He will sit here and tell you he is not a good wrestler. 245 00:12:59,312 --> 00:13:00,079 I don't know who trained him. 246 00:13:00,146 --> 00:13:01,447 I don't know if anyone trained him. 247 00:13:02,148 --> 00:13:04,917 Sandman is a legit barroom brawler. 248 00:13:06,319 --> 00:13:08,955 - Not someone you would think would be a typical role model, 249 00:13:09,822 --> 00:13:12,759 but there at ECW, the fans loved him because 250 00:13:12,825 --> 00:13:14,794 he represented one of them. 251 00:13:15,361 --> 00:13:21,134 - ECW politically incorrect and damn proud of it. 252 00:13:22,669 --> 00:13:25,071 - You want wholesome family entertainment? 253 00:13:25,071 --> 00:13:27,707 You're watching the wrong promotion. 254 00:13:27,807 --> 00:13:30,910 - The Sandman, pre-Stone Cold, was smashing beers 255 00:13:30,910 --> 00:13:32,545 on his forehead. 256 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:35,248 - I said, "What, are you crazy? 257 00:13:35,314 --> 00:13:37,050 You can't send a guy drinking and smoking into the ring." 258 00:13:37,116 --> 00:13:38,584 Well, apparently you can. 259 00:13:39,585 --> 00:13:41,120 - The Sandman was me. 260 00:13:41,187 --> 00:13:42,522 I want to play a game of pool. 261 00:13:42,588 --> 00:13:44,757 When I lose, I want to hit you over the head with a cane, take 262 00:13:44,824 --> 00:13:46,759 the money, get in my car, and roll. 263 00:13:47,627 --> 00:13:51,431 - We all loved ECW so much because we all got to be us. 264 00:13:52,465 --> 00:13:53,900 - You're Steve Austin. 265 00:13:55,301 --> 00:13:57,370 - You know, that's where you're wrong, Mean Joey. 266 00:13:57,437 --> 00:14:00,106 Because Steve Austin doesn't have what it takes to get it 267 00:14:00,206 --> 00:14:02,175 done in the ECW, brother. 268 00:14:03,109 --> 00:14:06,946 I was out of a job, and the phone rings, it's Paul E. 269 00:14:07,046 --> 00:14:09,949 Paul calls me, and he goes, "Kid," he goes, "I want you to 270 00:14:10,016 --> 00:14:13,186 come over and start working for me, cutting promos." 271 00:14:13,252 --> 00:14:14,821 And I said, "Man, what do you want me to talk about?" 272 00:14:14,921 --> 00:14:18,124 And he goes, "Just talk about how you feel." 273 00:14:18,191 --> 00:14:21,027 You people get up every morning, you throw a ham and cheese 274 00:14:21,094 --> 00:14:24,430 sandwich in a metal lunch box, you punch a time clock, you let 275 00:14:24,497 --> 00:14:28,034 some [bleep] yell at you for nine hours, then you punch out 276 00:14:28,101 --> 00:14:30,269 and go back home to some hag. 277 00:14:30,336 --> 00:14:31,971 I'll never do that, man. 278 00:14:32,872 --> 00:14:35,808 That was the genesis of what Stone Cold would- 279 00:14:35,875 --> 00:14:37,910 would come from. 280 00:14:37,910 --> 00:14:41,914 - ECW was a beautiful place to grow because you were given 281 00:14:41,981 --> 00:14:43,349 such freedom. 282 00:14:43,983 --> 00:14:47,820 Without those moments, I don't think we see "Stone Cold" Steve 283 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:49,989 Austin explode on the scene. 284 00:14:50,823 --> 00:14:52,458 - And that's the bottom line. 285 00:14:54,961 --> 00:14:58,231 That God dang ECW arena which was a complete [bleep], 286 00:14:58,297 --> 00:15:01,868 and I'm happy to be there, but to classify it other than what 287 00:15:01,968 --> 00:15:04,103 it was, a [bleep], would be inaccurate. 288 00:15:04,837 --> 00:15:06,873 This place is a bigger [bleep] 289 00:15:06,939 --> 00:15:08,574 than Middletown, New York, was. 290 00:15:09,976 --> 00:15:12,512 - It was a bingo hall, but it was also the Vikings clubhouse. 291 00:15:12,578 --> 00:15:14,113 The Vikings were a string band. 292 00:15:14,180 --> 00:15:15,414 I walked in there the first time, and I said, 293 00:15:15,481 --> 00:15:17,150 "Oh, my God. What? 294 00:15:17,216 --> 00:15:18,284 Look at this place. 295 00:15:18,351 --> 00:15:20,153 It's-- You can't do a show here." 296 00:15:20,987 --> 00:15:23,589 - It was a ring, guardrails and fans. 297 00:15:23,656 --> 00:15:24,991 - You got it, baby. 298 00:15:25,057 --> 00:15:26,592 - Nothing fancy, no big titantron. 299 00:15:26,659 --> 00:15:27,860 Nothing. 300 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:29,629 It was just, "This is what you need to focus on, what happens 301 00:15:29,695 --> 00:15:31,798 in the ring." 302 00:15:32,231 --> 00:15:33,266 - I love the grunginess of it. 303 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:38,471 I love that it wasn't pristine, that it wasn't polished, that 304 00:15:38,471 --> 00:15:40,807 anything could happen, anything was possible. 305 00:15:42,275 --> 00:15:45,211 - Because it was rooted in Philly, people from New York 306 00:15:45,278 --> 00:15:47,246 were coming down, people from D.C. 307 00:15:47,313 --> 00:15:50,116 They kind of were in a nice spot where it was a go-to place. 308 00:15:51,117 --> 00:15:53,019 - They wanna see the referee chokeslammed. 309 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:55,321 Only in Philadelphia. 310 00:15:56,355 --> 00:16:01,260 - You wanted that badge of honor to say that you had seen these 311 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:02,995 stars live, and you wanted to say that you could see them at 312 00:16:03,062 --> 00:16:05,832 the ECW arena, the bingo hall. 313 00:16:08,868 --> 00:16:10,770 - Oh, my God. 314 00:16:12,805 --> 00:16:15,875 - ECW Superstars were known for doing the most insane things 315 00:16:15,942 --> 00:16:18,010 you'd ever seen in a Sports Entertainment program, 316 00:16:20,379 --> 00:16:23,082 but ultimately, the same risks that they took that made them 317 00:16:23,149 --> 00:16:25,952 stand out in the first place would be what held them back. 318 00:16:31,057 --> 00:16:32,425 - The early 90's, 319 00:16:32,425 --> 00:16:34,193 I think things needed to change. 320 00:16:34,827 --> 00:16:36,963 And right here in Philadelphia was the perfect place. 321 00:16:40,633 --> 00:16:42,435 - Where it all started, baby. 322 00:16:42,502 --> 00:16:44,704 I love being right here, right in this spot. 323 00:16:46,239 --> 00:16:47,974 Wow, the memories. 324 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:51,310 [crowd cheers] 325 00:16:51,377 --> 00:16:53,312 You can almost hear the crowd. 326 00:16:53,379 --> 00:17:02,822 [crowd chants "ECW"] 327 00:17:02,922 --> 00:17:05,324 - I knew they were doing a lot of different things, 328 00:17:05,391 --> 00:17:08,961 and they were really cutting edge with-with the things 329 00:17:09,028 --> 00:17:11,564 that they were doing and their fan base. 330 00:17:11,631 --> 00:17:14,500 If there was ever a definition of fanatical, their fans, 331 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:15,868 they were-- they were all of that. 332 00:17:15,968 --> 00:17:17,470 They were part of the show. 333 00:17:17,470 --> 00:17:21,974 [crowd chants "ECW"] 334 00:17:22,041 --> 00:17:24,544 - The fans would sometimes hold a chair up. 335 00:17:24,644 --> 00:17:26,646 I remember fans holding a chair, and 2 Cold Scorpio 336 00:17:26,712 --> 00:17:28,681 smashing my head 337 00:17:28,748 --> 00:17:29,849 [chuckles] 338 00:17:29,916 --> 00:17:32,351 into the chair while the fan was holding it. 339 00:17:32,418 --> 00:17:33,953 - Yeah, baby. 340 00:17:34,020 --> 00:17:35,621 [laughs] 341 00:17:35,721 --> 00:17:41,060 - The audience is as much part of the show as the show itself. 342 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:42,395 We're the cool ones. 343 00:17:42,461 --> 00:17:43,829 We're extreme. 344 00:17:45,231 --> 00:17:48,568 - This is ECW at its best. 345 00:17:48,634 --> 00:17:50,803 The stands emptying. 346 00:17:51,270 --> 00:17:52,905 - Public Enemy, they were dancing and they were 347 00:17:53,005 --> 00:17:57,209 celebrating and they were inviting the crowd to join them 348 00:17:57,276 --> 00:17:59,478 in this celebration. 349 00:18:00,046 --> 00:18:02,548 These aren't WWE rings. 350 00:18:02,648 --> 00:18:06,552 These are rings that some guy set up right before the show. 351 00:18:10,656 --> 00:18:12,558 - Oh, my God. 352 00:18:12,959 --> 00:18:14,226 They broke the ring. 353 00:18:15,027 --> 00:18:21,167 - ECW just had this aura of fan inclusion, where fans were just 354 00:18:21,233 --> 00:18:24,036 as much a part of the show as the superstars were. 355 00:18:25,638 --> 00:18:27,406 - He's got Spike up. 356 00:18:28,874 --> 00:18:30,042 Oh, my God. 357 00:18:31,310 --> 00:18:32,845 - Oh, God bless the throw. 358 00:18:34,580 --> 00:18:36,549 We're at the arena, people are right on top of you, and he 359 00:18:36,649 --> 00:18:39,385 chucked me, and I landed in the third or fourth row, and they 360 00:18:39,452 --> 00:18:41,554 caught me, and they surfed me around. 361 00:18:42,121 --> 00:18:45,191 - We've got body surfing at the ECW arena. 362 00:18:46,425 --> 00:18:48,728 - When you see the audience care about somebody, when you're 363 00:18:48,794 --> 00:18:50,563 watching at home you're going to care more about them too. 364 00:18:51,130 --> 00:18:52,565 ECW was the best at that. 365 00:18:52,632 --> 00:18:54,834 Like, the crowd was a star of its own. 366 00:18:55,768 --> 00:18:59,438 - Terry Funk versus Cactus Jack for the first time in history. 367 00:18:59,505 --> 00:19:01,073 This one ought to be a classic. 368 00:19:01,807 --> 00:19:05,811 - Terry and I had a match, and it was fairly short, ended with, 369 00:19:05,878 --> 00:19:09,682 uh, a disqualification when the Public Enemy came running in, 370 00:19:10,549 --> 00:19:12,585 and I said to the audience, give me a chair. 371 00:19:13,986 --> 00:19:16,355 First there was one and there was two. 372 00:19:16,822 --> 00:19:17,990 - Oh, my God. 373 00:19:18,758 --> 00:19:22,395 - I'm not exaggerating when I say it was raining chairs. 374 00:19:25,297 --> 00:19:27,366 - I turned around and catch one over there, and all of a sudden, 375 00:19:27,433 --> 00:19:30,336 wham, one of them hit me right right in the back 376 00:19:30,636 --> 00:19:32,638 and knocked me out. 377 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:50,856 Oh, just some crazy stuff in ECW. 378 00:19:51,157 --> 00:19:54,326 That was a-- it was a good time. 379 00:19:55,428 --> 00:19:58,664 - It's one of the most iconic moments in ECW history, 380 00:19:58,731 --> 00:20:01,600 and it's one of the most dangerous things I've ever seen. 381 00:20:02,034 --> 00:20:05,304 We encouraged audience participation, and we may have 382 00:20:05,404 --> 00:20:07,006 encouraged it a little too much. 383 00:20:09,875 --> 00:20:12,278 - Everybody in ECW played hurt. 384 00:20:12,344 --> 00:20:16,916 There was no such thing as time off. 385 00:20:16,982 --> 00:20:22,888 We were warriors to a degree that most wrestlers could never 386 00:20:22,955 --> 00:20:25,024 say they were. 387 00:20:26,659 --> 00:20:30,429 - They were custom-made for Extreme Championship Wrestling. 388 00:20:30,496 --> 00:20:32,164 It's hard to imagine them wrestling anywhere else. 389 00:20:33,065 --> 00:20:35,034 - We had a passion to be ECW Superstars. 390 00:20:35,034 --> 00:20:36,669 We were gonna change the whole world. 391 00:20:36,769 --> 00:20:38,671 So what do we care if we broke a finger? 392 00:20:38,671 --> 00:20:40,106 What do we care if our necks hurt? 393 00:20:40,206 --> 00:20:41,273 If our backs hurt? 394 00:20:41,273 --> 00:20:42,408 It didn't matter because you know what? 395 00:20:42,475 --> 00:20:43,943 We were making a difference. 396 00:20:44,376 --> 00:20:45,277 - No way. 397 00:20:45,344 --> 00:20:47,113 That balcony is way too high up in the air. 398 00:20:49,115 --> 00:20:50,316 Oh, my God. 399 00:20:51,984 --> 00:20:55,621 - Everybody that wasn't a part of ECW hated ECW. 400 00:20:55,721 --> 00:20:58,357 They all had something to say about ECW. 401 00:20:59,692 --> 00:21:02,595 - ECW, extremely crappy wrestling for those of you 402 00:21:02,661 --> 00:21:03,596 who don't know. 403 00:21:04,864 --> 00:21:08,834 The guys who were fans of that ECW hybrid, [bleep] garbage 404 00:21:08,901 --> 00:21:11,370 wrestling, they cheered everybody. 405 00:21:11,437 --> 00:21:13,639 They just wanted the car wreck and the carnage. 406 00:21:14,673 --> 00:21:16,976 - I think there was a bit of arrogance, I think, on people's 407 00:21:17,042 --> 00:21:20,746 view of-of ECW, but in that arrogance, there's probably a 408 00:21:20,846 --> 00:21:23,048 certain amount of jealousy because they are getting to do 409 00:21:23,115 --> 00:21:24,984 things that we didn't get to do. 410 00:21:26,519 --> 00:21:29,321 - Now, we're setting an impossible physical standard 411 00:21:29,388 --> 00:21:32,358 that the human body can't keep up to. 412 00:21:32,424 --> 00:21:35,127 All that stuff that they were doing was ridiculous and was 413 00:21:35,194 --> 00:21:37,296 gonna lead to the downfall of the business, and basically, 414 00:21:37,396 --> 00:21:38,697 we hated the whole bunch of them. 415 00:21:40,232 --> 00:21:43,269 - It's very popular to paint this picture. 416 00:21:43,369 --> 00:21:47,239 That's fine, and I accept that criticism, but I-I could feel 417 00:21:47,306 --> 00:21:50,910 the culture shift that was going on, and I wanted to bring 418 00:21:50,910 --> 00:21:52,011 that to television. 419 00:21:54,046 --> 00:21:59,385 - At a point, it kind of became clear that that extreme attitude 420 00:21:59,385 --> 00:22:03,489 that brought them so much praise would also be what brought them 421 00:22:03,556 --> 00:22:06,826 criticism, and that created some issues for the company. 422 00:22:08,027 --> 00:22:10,162 - We ran into some really rough spells in ECW. 423 00:22:10,229 --> 00:22:11,830 Of course, we did. 424 00:22:11,897 --> 00:22:15,968 In 1995, we were desperate to get on pay-per-view 425 00:22:16,035 --> 00:22:17,002 and couldn't get in. 426 00:22:18,304 --> 00:22:21,840 There was a huge backlash against the UFC, and we got 427 00:22:21,907 --> 00:22:24,043 lumped in with extreme fighting. 428 00:22:24,710 --> 00:22:26,946 There was no way to convince anybody to let us on 429 00:22:27,046 --> 00:22:28,080 pay-per-view. 430 00:22:29,381 --> 00:22:33,819 If the goal was to be big, if the goal was to compete with WWE 431 00:22:33,919 --> 00:22:38,023 and WCW, going to pay-per-view was the holy grail. 432 00:22:38,824 --> 00:22:41,727 It was time for me to do something big, so I took over 433 00:22:41,794 --> 00:22:42,828 ownership of the company. 434 00:22:52,338 --> 00:22:54,773 [crowd cheers] 435 00:22:54,840 --> 00:23:01,013 [crowd chants "ECW"] 436 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:04,250 - The demand for this product was so great, 437 00:23:05,184 --> 00:23:08,587 but if you don't take advantage of that opportunity, 438 00:23:08,587 --> 00:23:10,422 then you're not gonna get the end result, 439 00:23:10,522 --> 00:23:12,124 which is all that money coming in 440 00:23:12,191 --> 00:23:13,626 and the expansion of your product. 441 00:23:14,593 --> 00:23:18,664 - There's this amazing show on at one o'clock in the morning. 442 00:23:18,664 --> 00:23:22,668 Unfortunately, sponsors and corporations that maybe would've 443 00:23:22,768 --> 00:23:25,571 worked with them thought that they were too risky. 444 00:23:27,706 --> 00:23:34,613 - Every single day was a battle for survival, 445 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:39,752 and every single day that we survived was a miracle, 446 00:23:41,186 --> 00:23:43,355 and it just zapped out Tod's budget. 447 00:23:44,390 --> 00:23:45,624 Tod couldn't afford to keep up, 448 00:23:49,028 --> 00:23:51,230 so I took over ownership of the company. 449 00:23:52,831 --> 00:23:55,000 - Welcome to Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. 450 00:23:55,834 --> 00:24:01,307 - In 1996, ECW and WWE started doing a cross-branded story. 451 00:24:01,407 --> 00:24:05,244 The idea of ECW wrestlers now appearing on WWE Television. 452 00:24:06,278 --> 00:24:07,646 - If we have an opportunity we're going to-- 453 00:24:07,713 --> 00:24:08,547 - Oh. 454 00:24:08,647 --> 00:24:10,316 - Oh, my. 455 00:24:10,382 --> 00:24:11,750 Hey, wait just a moment. 456 00:24:12,451 --> 00:24:15,421 A local wrestling group here in Philadelphia, and obviously 457 00:24:15,521 --> 00:24:17,723 trying to make a name for themselves at the expense of the 458 00:24:17,790 --> 00:24:18,958 World Wrestling --. 459 00:24:20,192 --> 00:24:22,928 - I think the WWE recognized that 460 00:24:22,995 --> 00:24:25,698 "Boy, we're getting ECW chants at our shows. 461 00:24:25,798 --> 00:24:26,999 "What is this company? 462 00:24:27,066 --> 00:24:28,367 Let's see. 463 00:24:28,434 --> 00:24:29,468 Let's find out. 464 00:24:29,568 --> 00:24:30,803 Let's bring them in." 465 00:24:31,437 --> 00:24:33,706 - The local Philadelphia wrestling outfit, uh, 466 00:24:33,806 --> 00:24:35,474 they're here. 467 00:24:35,474 --> 00:24:37,876 - I've had about-- just about all I wanna see of this 468 00:24:37,943 --> 00:24:38,844 crap right here. 469 00:24:38,911 --> 00:24:39,611 Do you understand that? 470 00:24:39,678 --> 00:24:40,846 - Oh, yeah. 471 00:24:40,913 --> 00:24:43,315 - Do you think for one minute that anybody knows anything 472 00:24:43,315 --> 00:24:45,284 about these idiots, ECW? 473 00:24:45,351 --> 00:24:46,885 - Well, there was no greater supporter of ECW 474 00:24:46,952 --> 00:24:48,954 than Vince McMahon. 475 00:24:49,388 --> 00:24:52,124 Vince thought we were good for the industry, if for nothing 476 00:24:52,191 --> 00:24:56,996 else, but because we were a shop that could create new talent. 477 00:24:58,530 --> 00:24:59,765 - I'll tell you what I'll do. 478 00:24:59,832 --> 00:25:02,368 If you so good, if you're so tough, I'll make a personal 479 00:25:02,434 --> 00:25:03,635 invitation to you. 480 00:25:03,702 --> 00:25:06,171 Come right here on Raw next week. 481 00:25:06,238 --> 00:25:08,307 Come on down here, and let's show-show us what you got. 482 00:25:11,210 --> 00:25:13,212 - We're outside the Manhattan Center live, 483 00:25:13,278 --> 00:25:14,713 we're coming to you, ladies and gentlemen, yes, 484 00:25:14,780 --> 00:25:16,248 it's Monday Night Raw. 485 00:25:20,052 --> 00:25:21,153 What is this? 486 00:25:22,988 --> 00:25:23,956 Wait a minute. 487 00:25:25,457 --> 00:25:27,259 Oh. 488 00:25:28,761 --> 00:25:32,498 - Your challenge has been accepted. 489 00:25:33,098 --> 00:25:38,570 ECW is in the house. 490 00:25:39,304 --> 00:25:44,076 - ECW invasion, it helped WWE and it helped ECW. 491 00:25:44,143 --> 00:25:50,649 It was the first time ECW had mainstream exposure and WWE 492 00:25:50,716 --> 00:25:53,352 desperately needed an edge. 493 00:25:54,553 --> 00:25:58,757 - Has this show sucked without ECW or what, huh? 494 00:25:58,824 --> 00:26:00,993 [crowd cheers] 495 00:26:03,195 --> 00:26:05,197 - Hopefully things aren't going to get out of hand here. 496 00:26:05,264 --> 00:26:06,899 - Well, hopefully, they are. 497 00:26:07,332 --> 00:26:10,202 That's what ECW is all about. 498 00:26:11,837 --> 00:26:13,639 [crowd chants "ECW"] 499 00:26:13,705 --> 00:26:15,074 - It's freaking huge for us. 500 00:26:15,074 --> 00:26:16,175 You know what I mean? 501 00:26:16,241 --> 00:26:18,210 You're getting recognized by a whole different world. 502 00:26:18,710 --> 00:26:21,513 - The Sandman is in the Manhattan Center. 503 00:26:22,181 --> 00:26:25,217 - To cross-promote there and have those guys come in, it was 504 00:26:25,317 --> 00:26:26,685 kind of a shake up. 505 00:26:26,752 --> 00:26:28,787 - Go ahead, come on. 506 00:26:28,787 --> 00:26:30,956 - The walls come crumbling down with ECW. 507 00:26:34,026 --> 00:26:39,198 - Because of your cards and your letters and your phone calls, 508 00:26:39,264 --> 00:26:47,473 that show on April 13th will be carried live on pay-per-view. 509 00:26:51,477 --> 00:26:57,950 The very first pay-per-view from ECW, Barely Legal. 510 00:26:58,750 --> 00:27:03,122 - ECW finally reached their goal, and Paul Heyman gave the 511 00:27:03,188 --> 00:27:04,556 credit to the fans. 512 00:27:06,258 --> 00:27:10,762 - I wanted an audience that was going to be proud to be ECW 513 00:27:10,829 --> 00:27:13,866 fans, and [bleep], I had that. 514 00:27:13,866 --> 00:27:17,736 Tonight we have a chance to say, "Yeah, you're right. 515 00:27:17,803 --> 00:27:19,471 We're too extreme. 516 00:27:19,471 --> 00:27:21,673 We're too full of our own [bleep]," 517 00:27:21,673 --> 00:27:24,476 or we have a chance to say, "Hey, [bleep] you. 518 00:27:24,476 --> 00:27:25,911 You're wrong. 519 00:27:25,911 --> 00:27:27,913 [bleep] you, we're right, 520 00:27:27,913 --> 00:27:31,550 because you have all made it to the dance. 521 00:27:31,683 --> 00:27:34,920 'cause, believe me, this is the dance. 522 00:27:37,556 --> 00:27:38,790 Start the show. 523 00:27:40,626 --> 00:27:43,862 - That was the dance. 524 00:27:43,962 --> 00:27:46,965 It was us against the world. 525 00:27:47,032 --> 00:27:50,669 It was ECW versus the entire wrestling business. 526 00:27:50,769 --> 00:27:54,006 We were ready to go into battle because we were a part of 527 00:27:54,072 --> 00:27:56,909 something special and we knew it. 528 00:27:57,009 --> 00:27:58,510 [crowd chants "ECW"] 529 00:28:08,120 --> 00:28:10,622 [crowd cheers] 530 00:28:11,590 --> 00:28:15,460 - Being an advocate for ECW, once we got on pay-per-view, we 531 00:28:15,561 --> 00:28:17,396 thought everything was going to change and 532 00:28:17,462 --> 00:28:19,431 so we were really excited. 533 00:28:20,065 --> 00:28:22,601 I was like, "Mmm, let's go." 534 00:28:25,504 --> 00:28:26,905 - Air Van Dam. 535 00:28:27,706 --> 00:28:31,677 - It felt like a real milestone that had been that thing that 536 00:28:31,743 --> 00:28:33,078 they'd been chasing forever. 537 00:28:33,779 --> 00:28:35,514 It was a really big accomplishment. 538 00:28:36,682 --> 00:28:40,319 - This extreme not for everybody, 539 00:28:40,385 --> 00:28:42,621 little engine that could had 540 00:28:42,721 --> 00:28:44,423 accomplished the impossible. 541 00:28:46,625 --> 00:28:48,393 - Inside cradle, small package. 542 00:28:48,460 --> 00:28:49,628 [bell rings] 543 00:28:49,628 --> 00:28:51,196 - It's over. 544 00:28:51,263 --> 00:28:52,698 We've got a new champion. 545 00:28:52,798 --> 00:28:54,466 We've got a new champion. 546 00:28:57,169 --> 00:29:01,173 The emotion in this area is overwhelming. 547 00:29:05,377 --> 00:29:06,345 - I'm happy. 548 00:29:11,383 --> 00:29:13,518 - There were two pay-per-view carriers at the time, and we 549 00:29:13,585 --> 00:29:18,123 were only carried on one, and despite that, we did 100,000 550 00:29:18,190 --> 00:29:20,425 buys for Barely Legal. 551 00:29:20,492 --> 00:29:24,329 And I have no doubt that a big part of that was the exposure we 552 00:29:24,396 --> 00:29:27,099 got on WWE television. 553 00:29:34,473 --> 00:29:36,208 - Things are moving along for ECW and then 554 00:29:36,274 --> 00:29:38,944 they catch a huge break. 555 00:29:39,044 --> 00:29:42,648 They got themselves a national weekly TV show. 556 00:29:43,949 --> 00:29:49,421 - ECW wished for national TV and national TV killed ECW. 557 00:29:53,959 --> 00:29:57,396 - Hello again, everyone, and welcome to WWE Raw 558 00:29:57,462 --> 00:29:58,463 and we are live. 559 00:30:01,633 --> 00:30:04,936 - In the late 90s, pro wrestling as an industry, 560 00:30:05,003 --> 00:30:08,106 got super, super hot again. 561 00:30:08,206 --> 00:30:10,575 WWE was doing unprecedented numbers. 562 00:30:11,643 --> 00:30:17,649 It went from family-friendly cartoons come to life to edgy, 563 00:30:17,716 --> 00:30:19,384 shocking stuff. 564 00:30:20,419 --> 00:30:23,188 A lot of that was due to the influence that 565 00:30:23,255 --> 00:30:24,756 they took from ECW. 566 00:30:25,624 --> 00:30:28,527 - All hell is breaking loose in Madison Square Garden. 567 00:30:31,830 --> 00:30:34,266 - Good God. 568 00:30:34,332 --> 00:30:41,673 - And in 1999, ECW catches an incredible break by signing 569 00:30:41,673 --> 00:30:46,111 their first major national cable television deal 570 00:30:46,211 --> 00:30:47,679 with a network called TNN. 571 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,816 - Hello, everyone, I'm Joey Styles and we are getting set to 572 00:30:50,882 --> 00:30:54,586 broadcast some of the most extreme wrestling matches 573 00:30:54,586 --> 00:30:55,754 you have ever seen. 574 00:30:56,388 --> 00:30:58,223 Moonsault over the bleacher. 575 00:30:59,524 --> 00:31:00,625 Here it comes. 576 00:31:01,259 --> 00:31:02,661 Awesome Bomb. 577 00:31:03,829 --> 00:31:05,964 - TNN was a channel that wasn't popular. 578 00:31:06,665 --> 00:31:09,601 I thought, well, automatically we're going to be the number one 579 00:31:09,668 --> 00:31:12,571 rated to show on there, and I believed that this was going to 580 00:31:12,637 --> 00:31:13,638 be our big break. 581 00:31:14,106 --> 00:31:16,641 - Rob Van Dam here on the outside. 582 00:31:16,708 --> 00:31:18,643 Oh, my God. 583 00:31:18,710 --> 00:31:23,482 - I was a WWE guy, but I think I liked ECW better. 584 00:31:23,548 --> 00:31:25,250 So I was like, "Oh, man, these guys are doing something 585 00:31:25,317 --> 00:31:26,718 way different." 586 00:31:26,785 --> 00:31:28,820 - Rhyno, this is not where he wants to be. 587 00:31:29,421 --> 00:31:30,555 Oh, my God. 588 00:31:31,456 --> 00:31:34,326 - What in the hell could possibly happen next on TNN? 589 00:31:36,294 --> 00:31:42,334 - ECW wished for national TV and they got national TV and 590 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,236 national TV killed ECW. 591 00:31:47,072 --> 00:31:49,474 - We signed a deal with TNN, which was very 592 00:31:49,541 --> 00:31:51,009 favorable to them. 593 00:31:52,244 --> 00:31:53,612 We didn't get paid any money. 594 00:31:53,678 --> 00:31:55,847 To my knowledge, we were just getting exposure. 595 00:31:57,115 --> 00:31:58,283 - The ECW never made money. 596 00:31:59,151 --> 00:32:00,352 We paid to be everywhere. 597 00:32:00,418 --> 00:32:02,387 We were paying to be on all those channels. 598 00:32:02,387 --> 00:32:03,955 Those channels weren't paying us. 599 00:32:05,023 --> 00:32:07,392 - TNN fought us every step of the way. 600 00:32:07,459 --> 00:32:11,329 They did not like the way we did television, they wanted it to be 601 00:32:11,396 --> 00:32:13,432 more polished like WWE. 602 00:32:14,733 --> 00:32:16,034 - It was a startup company 603 00:32:16,101 --> 00:32:19,471 whose entire presentation was counterculture. 604 00:32:20,272 --> 00:32:23,041 That was a necessary, necessary component. 605 00:32:23,108 --> 00:32:24,810 So, you're not going to get mainstream advertisers. 606 00:32:24,876 --> 00:32:27,212 You're not going to get big name sponsorship. 607 00:32:27,279 --> 00:32:28,513 It was just another battle 608 00:32:28,580 --> 00:32:30,549 we were gonna have to pull a bunch of miracles for. 609 00:32:31,850 --> 00:32:33,118 - You're sort of conflicted about it. 610 00:32:33,185 --> 00:32:35,987 You're happy that you're finally getting some sort of national 611 00:32:35,987 --> 00:32:38,590 exposure, um but at what cost? 612 00:32:40,692 --> 00:32:43,261 - I don't know if Paul could have ever compromised himself 613 00:32:43,361 --> 00:32:45,030 or the product enough. 614 00:32:45,030 --> 00:32:46,198 Paul was too much of a rebel. 615 00:32:46,264 --> 00:32:47,232 We all were. 616 00:32:48,133 --> 00:32:50,235 - This was just another battle. 617 00:32:50,235 --> 00:32:53,405 Because we were in such dire straits with the network, 618 00:32:53,472 --> 00:32:56,675 the pay-per-view companies are holding back 619 00:32:56,741 --> 00:32:58,977 our money they're just letting the money drift. 620 00:33:00,679 --> 00:33:04,482 Our deal with TNN was falling apart horrifically. 621 00:33:05,484 --> 00:33:08,420 - Paul Heyman isn't a guy known for holding his tongue. 622 00:33:08,753 --> 00:33:13,758 Paul being unhappy with how the network was treating ECW decided 623 00:33:13,825 --> 00:33:17,596 to air out TNN on TNN. 624 00:33:18,196 --> 00:33:20,398 - We hate this stinking network. 625 00:33:20,465 --> 00:33:22,868 We hate their guts for abandoning us, 626 00:33:22,934 --> 00:33:24,970 we hate their guts for not supporting us, 627 00:33:25,036 --> 00:33:27,372 we hate their guts for not advertising us. 628 00:33:27,439 --> 00:33:29,107 - They never got behind us ever. 629 00:33:29,207 --> 00:33:33,845 The only commercial that they ever showed for ECW ran during 630 00:33:33,912 --> 00:33:35,814 the hour that we were on. 631 00:33:35,881 --> 00:33:39,784 Meanwhile, TNN was planning on working out a different deal 632 00:33:39,885 --> 00:33:41,953 with WWE to bring them in. 633 00:33:42,020 --> 00:33:44,389 - You see, in just a few weeks, the network is going to give 634 00:33:44,389 --> 00:33:50,195 $100 million to Vince McMahon like he needs it to replace us. 635 00:33:51,029 --> 00:33:53,064 [WWE Raw's music plays] 636 00:33:53,164 --> 00:34:00,639 - This is our inaugural broadcast for WWE Raw on TNN. 637 00:34:01,673 --> 00:34:07,546 - Monday Night Raw starts to air on TNN, and a week later, 638 00:34:07,646 --> 00:34:09,347 ECW is canceled. 639 00:34:11,583 --> 00:34:15,353 - It's common knowledge how dire our situation is 640 00:34:15,420 --> 00:34:16,721 so I have a meeting with Vince, 641 00:34:16,788 --> 00:34:18,924 and he can relate to all of these problems 642 00:34:18,990 --> 00:34:20,392 'cause he's been through it himself before. 643 00:34:21,893 --> 00:34:23,161 He said "What can I do to help you?" 644 00:34:23,228 --> 00:34:25,397 I said "Well, you can give me $500,000 right now so I can put 645 00:34:25,463 --> 00:34:27,832 on my show in LA and get to my next pay-per-view." 646 00:34:28,867 --> 00:34:31,169 And without blinking, five minutes later we were wired 647 00:34:31,236 --> 00:34:33,238 $500,000 dollars as a loan 648 00:34:33,305 --> 00:34:36,675 to shop around our TV show to more networks, 649 00:34:36,675 --> 00:34:39,277 and keep on putting on pay-per-view's and hopefully 650 00:34:39,344 --> 00:34:41,279 get our money out of the pay-per-view distributors. 651 00:34:43,148 --> 00:34:44,416 That bought us some time. 652 00:34:47,319 --> 00:34:52,991 - There were so many financial problems in ECW 653 00:34:52,991 --> 00:34:55,660 that it just became unsustainable for him. 654 00:34:56,594 --> 00:35:04,035 - When the ECW wrestlers were leaving for greener pastures, 655 00:35:04,102 --> 00:35:06,771 I'd probably try to talk every one of them out of it. 656 00:35:06,838 --> 00:35:07,806 It hurt. 657 00:35:08,873 --> 00:35:09,841 - Wait a minute. 658 00:35:09,908 --> 00:35:10,608 - What's this? 659 00:35:10,675 --> 00:35:11,309 [bell rings] 660 00:35:11,409 --> 00:35:13,345 - King, oh man. 661 00:35:13,745 --> 00:35:15,714 King, The Dudley Boys. 662 00:35:15,714 --> 00:35:16,715 The Dudley Boys. 663 00:35:16,781 --> 00:35:20,218 Former ECW Tag Team Champions. 664 00:35:20,318 --> 00:35:26,157 - I worked so close with Paul, Tazz worked so close with Paul. 665 00:35:27,659 --> 00:35:30,228 - Man, what an impact for Tazz. 666 00:35:30,228 --> 00:35:32,831 His first night in the WWE. 667 00:35:34,099 --> 00:35:38,870 - The rest of the guys knew, if these guys are leaving, 668 00:35:38,970 --> 00:35:40,305 something must be wrong. 669 00:35:44,509 --> 00:35:46,511 [crowd chants "ECW"] 670 00:35:46,611 --> 00:35:47,579 - Hello, everyone, 671 00:35:47,646 --> 00:35:51,616 and welcome to Guilty as Charged. 672 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,155 - I wrestled that last pay-per-view 673 00:35:57,222 --> 00:35:59,524 and-and under special conditions, 674 00:35:59,591 --> 00:36:03,361 you know, I told Paul that I needed get paid in cash up 675 00:36:03,428 --> 00:36:06,798 front, couldn't take a chance of not getting paid. 676 00:36:08,299 --> 00:36:11,169 - He was owed a lot of money, like we all were, 677 00:36:11,236 --> 00:36:13,371 but Rob Van Dam stayed till the end. 678 00:36:14,472 --> 00:36:16,274 - Of course, when I was there and I was like, 679 00:36:16,341 --> 00:36:17,842 "This is a check." 680 00:36:17,909 --> 00:36:21,146 He was like, "You mean cash, cash?" 681 00:36:21,246 --> 00:36:22,247 [chuckles] 682 00:36:22,313 --> 00:36:24,816 But that's just Paul, but everything worked out. 683 00:36:25,684 --> 00:36:27,652 - The Van Terminator. 684 00:36:30,388 --> 00:36:33,892 - Everything was just like so good then and it was just the 685 00:36:33,958 --> 00:36:35,794 last time that it would be. 686 00:36:38,863 --> 00:36:44,969 - In every aspect, we were born, bred, raised to crash and burn 687 00:36:45,036 --> 00:36:46,137 as a company. 688 00:36:46,604 --> 00:36:47,872 We were a shooting star. 689 00:36:51,276 --> 00:36:54,045 - The pay-per-view distributors offered to give us some money 690 00:36:54,112 --> 00:36:55,547 if we put on the next pay-per-view, 691 00:36:55,647 --> 00:36:57,115 but they wouldn't give us the money 692 00:36:57,115 --> 00:36:58,716 until we put on the next pay-per-view, 693 00:36:58,716 --> 00:37:00,452 but we couldn't put on the next pay-per-view 694 00:37:00,518 --> 00:37:01,920 unless we got their money. 695 00:37:04,122 --> 00:37:05,523 We were finished. 696 00:37:05,590 --> 00:37:07,492 We were filing for bankruptcy. 697 00:37:07,559 --> 00:37:08,860 It was over. 698 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:12,597 Had we landed on television, you'd be interviewing me today 699 00:37:12,664 --> 00:37:17,001 as the genius that took ECW all the way and I'd be sitting here 700 00:37:17,068 --> 00:37:18,603 with a billion-dollar stock option. 701 00:37:20,071 --> 00:37:23,775 And the fact that we couldn't find television makes me the 702 00:37:23,842 --> 00:37:26,644 schmuck that couldn't carry ECW any further. 703 00:37:33,518 --> 00:37:39,124 WWE finally acquired all the assets of ECW after a long 704 00:37:39,190 --> 00:37:40,558 bankruptcy proceeding. 705 00:37:41,593 --> 00:37:44,562 - There were a lot of athletes I liked in ECW, and they had 706 00:37:44,629 --> 00:37:45,630 a huge fan base. 707 00:37:46,231 --> 00:37:48,700 And that's why I wasn't surprised when Vince McMahon 708 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:50,635 bought the company in 2001. 709 00:37:52,670 --> 00:37:56,441 - My God, somebody tell me what this means. 710 00:37:56,508 --> 00:38:00,211 I thought ECW was dead and buried. 711 00:38:01,112 --> 00:38:04,949 - Even though it hurt to lose ECW, the fact that it went to 712 00:38:05,049 --> 00:38:09,420 WWE also gave you a feeling of I'm not saying goodbye to all of 713 00:38:09,521 --> 00:38:12,824 this, it's just going to be different than it was before. 714 00:38:14,192 --> 00:38:17,028 - It was really great to see the transition that some people were 715 00:38:17,028 --> 00:38:21,900 able to make from ECW and then see such a wider audience have 716 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:23,668 appreciation for them. 717 00:38:23,768 --> 00:38:25,069 - Oh, we got new tag team champions. 718 00:38:26,971 --> 00:38:29,507 Rob Van Dam is the Intercontinental Champion. 719 00:38:34,679 --> 00:38:38,516 [crowd chants "Thank you"] 720 00:38:38,516 --> 00:38:41,085 - ECW was special because they were extreme. 721 00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:45,990 It's what led the audience to the product, but it was also one 722 00:38:46,057 --> 00:38:49,060 of the things that led to ECW's downfall. 723 00:38:49,494 --> 00:38:53,431 A lot of companies and sponsors didn't want to work with ECW 724 00:38:53,498 --> 00:38:56,067 because of the nature of the programming. 725 00:38:57,402 --> 00:39:01,472 - I always compare ECW to Napster. 726 00:39:01,472 --> 00:39:04,442 Napster went bankrupt and out of business, 727 00:39:05,243 --> 00:39:08,446 but Napster changed the way we listened to music forever. 728 00:39:09,914 --> 00:39:12,650 ECW went bankrupt and out of business, 729 00:39:13,484 --> 00:39:16,754 but ECW changed the wrestling business forever. 730 00:39:19,824 --> 00:39:21,659 [crowd cheering] 731 00:39:21,759 --> 00:39:22,927 - Bubba Ray Dudley says it best. 732 00:39:23,995 --> 00:39:25,830 "ECW wasn't meant to last. 733 00:39:25,830 --> 00:39:27,398 We were meant to go out in a blaze of glory. 734 00:39:27,465 --> 00:39:28,433 We were Napster. 735 00:39:28,499 --> 00:39:29,968 We were here to change the business. 736 00:39:30,034 --> 00:39:32,270 We were here to disrupt the industry." 737 00:39:32,370 --> 00:39:34,472 And it's exactly what we did. 738 00:39:35,673 --> 00:39:38,309 For those of you, who will say, 739 00:39:39,043 --> 00:39:42,747 that ECW lives no more, 740 00:39:42,847 --> 00:39:47,719 I respectfully disagree with your assessment, 741 00:39:47,785 --> 00:39:50,021 and for those of you who don't realize it, 742 00:39:50,121 --> 00:39:53,758 ECW is alive today in the matches 743 00:39:53,825 --> 00:39:55,326 that are performed in front of you, 744 00:39:55,393 --> 00:39:57,028 that in the concepts 745 00:39:57,095 --> 00:39:59,163 that have been adopted by the entire industry, 746 00:39:59,230 --> 00:40:03,001 and the passion of the fan base that still comes today 747 00:40:03,067 --> 00:40:05,803 to WWE and any other wrestling promotion 748 00:40:05,870 --> 00:40:07,605 on the face of this planet. 749 00:40:09,707 --> 00:40:14,812 If you think that the spirit of ECW died 750 00:40:14,879 --> 00:40:17,815 in a bankruptcy court in 2001, 751 00:40:17,882 --> 00:40:20,918 you can suck my [bleep]. 752 00:40:20,985 --> 00:40:30,962 [crowd cheers] 753 00:40:36,367 --> 00:40:37,635 - What a bathroom here. 754 00:40:37,702 --> 00:40:38,803 How apropos. 755 00:40:40,438 --> 00:40:41,773 The ECW wall. 756 00:40:42,607 --> 00:40:47,812 You got D-Von Dudley, testify, Hall of Fame right there. 757 00:40:47,879 --> 00:40:49,814 You got Tod Gordon. 758 00:40:49,881 --> 00:40:52,350 I just saw an RVD somewhere. 759 00:40:52,483 --> 00:40:54,152 Oh, wait, where the freak is my- 760 00:40:54,152 --> 00:40:56,087 I must have signed this somewhere. 761 00:40:58,189 --> 00:41:01,125 - We still talk about it because ECW was a phenomenon. 762 00:41:02,860 --> 00:41:04,929 Just like we talk about the Chicago Bulls dynasty 763 00:41:05,630 --> 00:41:09,200 to this day in basketball, we will always talk about ECW. 764 00:41:11,269 --> 00:41:12,470 [crowd chants "ECW"] 765 00:41:13,838 --> 00:41:16,240 - Unless you've been to an ECW show and seen them at their 766 00:41:16,307 --> 00:41:19,877 peak, then you have not seen or done it all. 767 00:41:21,279 --> 00:41:23,815 - You wear those ECW shirts like a badge of honor because you 768 00:41:23,881 --> 00:41:26,851 were at the bingo hall, or you at least want people 769 00:41:26,918 --> 00:41:28,519 to think that you were. 770 00:41:30,021 --> 00:41:32,023 - To this day when I see original ECW fans 771 00:41:33,424 --> 00:41:36,828 with ECW tattoos and everything else, I am just shocked 772 00:41:36,828 --> 00:41:37,795 and I am just moved. 773 00:41:39,397 --> 00:41:44,869 - I wish people could understand how deep the relationship ran 774 00:41:44,969 --> 00:41:46,938 between the wrestlers and those fans. 775 00:41:47,772 --> 00:41:50,308 This company was like a family, and that's what made 776 00:41:50,408 --> 00:41:51,442 it so special. 777 00:41:53,244 --> 00:41:56,414 - The fact that we can incorporate stuff that happened 778 00:41:56,481 --> 00:42:00,118 in ECW in WWE now, that just shows a little bit of the legacy 779 00:42:00,184 --> 00:42:01,486 that ECW still has. 780 00:42:02,186 --> 00:42:05,123 - Paul with the Frog Splash. 781 00:42:06,024 --> 00:42:11,629 - When anyone shows up, whether it be Paul Heyman, Rob Van Dam, 782 00:42:11,696 --> 00:42:15,233 you hear that chant, "ECW, ECW." 783 00:42:15,299 --> 00:42:17,001 You're gonna hear the chant every single time. 784 00:42:17,068 --> 00:42:20,805 [crowd chants "ECW"] 785 00:42:21,606 --> 00:42:27,311 - I lived it in my sleep, and it was all encompassing. 786 00:42:27,412 --> 00:42:28,880 It was exhilarating. 787 00:42:28,946 --> 00:42:32,483 It was extreme. 788 00:42:34,352 --> 00:42:41,359 [crowd chants "ECW"] 61483

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