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- We interrupt your regularly scheduled program
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For this special report.
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- I've never seen a more controversial entity
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Than d-generation x.
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- Here we go.
- And three, two--
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- Good evening,
my fellow americans.
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This past week,
d-generation x was--
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Oh, [bleep] a.
[laughter]
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- This past week,
d-generation x
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Completed a full sentence.
- [laughs]
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- If you took a group
of great athletes,
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Stuck them in a frat house,
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Mix that up
with a bunch of
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"I don't give a [bleep]"
attitudes...
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All: Let's go!
- And stir vigorously,
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You get dx to come out of it.
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[laughter]
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- D-generation x
was the counterculture,
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Anti-establishment crew
inside wwe.
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All: [chanting]
dx! Dx! Dx!
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- They were rat pack
for a new millennium.
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- We're total bad asses.
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- We're gangstas.
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- You had triple h, shawn michaels,
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X-pac, billy gunn, road dogg,
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And of course, you had chyna.
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- Oh, my!
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- Uh!
- Their entire purpose
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Was to push the boundaries
and make you uncomfortable
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And entertain the hell out of you in the process.
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- We were just six degenerates
having a great time,
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And you were welcome
to come aboard
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And have a good time with us.
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And if you didn't,
we had two words for ya.
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- Suck it!
- Suck it!
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- Suck it!
- It became a battle cry.
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- We got two words for ya!
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All: Suck it!
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- Let's get ready to suck it!
[cheering]
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- D-generation x was cocky,
arrogant, egotistical,
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And they were cool.
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- Dx was as much a part of 90s american pop culture
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Than anything else.
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- It was like the beatles... [laughs]
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No matter where they went.
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- When you're in the midst of it,
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It's like you're in a drug-addled violent tornado
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That's just carrying you along.
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I got caught up.
I got lost in the limelight.
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Cut.
My wife's gonna watch this.
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- For a guy that didn't need
many excuses
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To spiral down
to a bad place, that was it.
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- We were unfireable,
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So I pushed the limits
of everything
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As far as I possibly could.
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Then you fall into a dark spot.
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We all have our...Demons.
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- It robs you of your soul.
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[pensive music]
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- We've all gotten through that.
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Man, we are blessed
to be alive.
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- Did there used to be
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More of us?
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- They defined maybe the most
memorable time ever in wwe.
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[rock music]
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- Some of it felt a little childish,
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A little crass,
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But it was a necessary revolution.
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It was a transformation
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Of what we're allowed to do
on tv.
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- Should we be doing that now? No.
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There's no real place
for d-generation x today,
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As far as I'm concerned.
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But it is fun
to look back on it.
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- You will never forget d-generation x.
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- Try not to take
any of it too serious.
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♪ ♪
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All: [chanting] dx! Dx! Dx!
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- We are back with more
"Monday night raw."
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- Everything has an expiration date,
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And in the early '90s, wwe was just sort of
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Plugging along, trying to use
a lot of the same tricks
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That had gotten them
to that point
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Without really reading the tea leaves
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And seeing where culture was going.
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- What was traditionally hip
in wrestling
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Is no longer hip.
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- And dx were the ones that came out and said,
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"if you think wrestling is
gonna stay the same as it was,
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"you're wrong,
and we are the people who are
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Going to come out here and shake things up."
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- Before you come out here
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And get the crap
kicked completely out of you...
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[laughs]
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D-generation x
has got two words for ya...
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All: Suck it!
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- When you look at dx,
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What comes to mind is,
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Well, kind of exactly
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What it is--degenerates.
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Degenerates within the sports entertainment world
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That were the anti-authority,
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And didn't care about the rules of society
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Or the rules of the business,
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And did everything that you weren't supposed to do.
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Dx was triple h and shawn,
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The new age outlaws, chyna, x-pac.
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But dx, to me, will always be
triple h and shawn.
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It was the brain child of that friendship
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That started dx.
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- We are the business today.
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- [chuckles] there's a bit
of discrepancy
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On shawn and I's
first meeting,
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And I'll stick with
my version of it,
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Because shawn was...
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Had issues at the time.
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And I remember it distinctly because shawn,
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He's a fashion assassin.
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Shawn came in
wearing no shirt,
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Bandanas all over him,
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He had cowboy boots with his
jeans tucked into the pants,
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And--like, that was
his street clothes.
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And, like, he just completely walked in front of me
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And just started talking to kevin nash.
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Kevin said,
"hey, have you met paul yet?"
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And he shook my hand,
and then he said,
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"anyway, kev,
I'll see you later."
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And he walked away.
Right? [laughs]
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- Well, I--
that is something--
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And again,
that's what, you know,
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I'm not sure if it was
the drugs, or, you know.
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That's why hunter's always
better at telling the stories.
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[light music]
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- I was born July 27, 1969, nashua, new hampshire.
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It was a roaring metropolis.
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Normal childhood, middle class,
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Parents are still married to this day.
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I don't know,
I just always had this interest
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In things that were
larger than life.
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I was five or six years old,
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My dad got up and was changing the channel, and...
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- Chief jay strongbow.
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- Stopped on chief jay strongbow.
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I remember specifically who it was.
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I had a plastic football helmet
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That I remember putting
the football in the helmet,
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Putting it on the floor,
climbing up on my dad's lap,
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And just sitting
and being fascinated by it.
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- Yes, there he goes.
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- There's something about it that was just
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Incredibly entertaining, action-packed,
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But these larger-than-life superheroes,
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But that were real and on tv,
sitting right in front of you.
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And it sucked me in,
and from that point forward,
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I was fascinated with it.
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When I was 14, I went to
the gym for the first time,
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And I started lifting weights.
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And I started to see that path
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To get to being
a wwe superstar.
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As I got to that size, got to that level of development,
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And becoming larger than life
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Like the athletes
that I saw on tv,
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It started to become a reality
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That maybe this was something
that I could do,
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And I started to search
high and low
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For a way to make that happen.
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- The world's strongest man. - I met a powerlifter
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Named ted arcidi,
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Who had also broken into the wrestling business.
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And over time,
I developed the courage
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To ask him, "hey, how can I get
in the wrestling business, man?
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I'd love to do that."
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And he discouraged me in every
conceivable way possible.
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But I stayed on him,
stayed on him,
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Stayed on him,
stayed on him--
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Probably just to get me
to stop asking him,
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He gave me the number
for walter "killer" kowalski.
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I went in the ring and took a couple of bumps,
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And it was the most natural thing I'd ever done,
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First time in my life.
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And it took off from there.
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Lock up your doors.
I'm comin' to your town.
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They better pray when I'm around.
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- What a future. Young, big man, aggressive,
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He's got everything going for him.
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- Pat patterson and I, we had been invited
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To a show that was run by walter kowalski.
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And walter had a student, paul levesque.
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His name was terra ryzing.
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Great name.
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By the time that his show came around,
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Paul levesque had signed
a contract with wcw in atlanta.
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We met, we watched his match,
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And told him that night,
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"when your contract comes up
with wcw,
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Please give us a call."
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- Hunter hearst helmsley.
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- Paul came in and became hunter hearst helmsley.
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Hunter was
the quintessential snob.
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- Hello, hunter hearst
helmsley here.
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- When hunter arrived in wwe,
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I was happy we got him
because I saw a bright future.
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- What an aggressive athlete
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This hunter hearst helmsley is.
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- He looked good, student of the game.
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The gathering of the minds
between shawn and hunter
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Was pretty quick.
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[light music]
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- I was born in williams air force base,
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And shortly after that,
my father got transferred
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To randolph air force base
in san antonio, texas,
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And for the most part, that's where I spent
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The rest of my youth and growing up.
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I never had sat down
and, like,
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"what do you wanna be
when you grow up?"
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But I can just recall I made the comment to my mother
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Like, "I'm gonna be a professional wrestler."
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"that's nice, honey."
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[laughs]
you know?
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And I was saying that at 12,
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And by the time I was graduating high school,
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I was still saying it,
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And then get trained
for three months.
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- He is sean michaels.
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- When he's in the ring, it's nothing short
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Of an aerial circus.
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- Bill watts got me booked in kansas city.
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- Ohh!
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- And that's where
I met marty.
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- Marty jannetty!
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- We walked into
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The dressing room,
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And it was this guy, had real short hair
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And he had green tights
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Pulled up to under his chest.
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[laughs]
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It was like, oh, damn.
We got some work to do.
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[laughs]
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- Marty was cool. I mean, he was the cool guy.
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And he said, "you got something
inside you
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"that looks like it's dying
to come out,
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And we're gonna get it out
of you."
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And I'm sure, you know, myself and many people
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In the wrestling business are sorry
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That he ever
let that person out.
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- The midnight rockers!
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- We became the midnight rockers.
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Turned into a fantastic team.
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But, yeah, we lived with the gimmick, as they say.
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- They love to party!
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- We were out every night,
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And nothing was off the table,
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Whether it was women,
drugs, um--
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[laughs]
so all of that stuff
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Was on the table, and we partook in that
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On an extremely regular basis.
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- If we was on the road
300 days a year,
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We partied 290 of 'em.
[laughs]
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- And marty and I were just hell... [laughs]
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To deal with, but inside
the ring, we were really good.
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[upbeat rock music playing] - the rockers!
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- Shawn michaels, him and his partner,
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Marty jannetty, they came from the awa
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In the late '80s to the wwe,
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And they were
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Popular immediately.
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- The fans right behind the rockers. Oh!
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- Shawn's reputation early on
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Was always one
of a top notch performer.
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I think shawn always saw himself as the star,
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And the biggest star.
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So being in a tag team,
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Shawn, in my opinion, looked at that
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As a stepping stone
to his singles stardom.
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- Recently, there's been
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A lot of controversy,
a lot of rumors
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That maybe you guys
are gonna break up.
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- From the time I got in,
I never pictured myself
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In a tag team.
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Not in any of the
theater of my mind or dreams
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Was it ever me
and this other guy.
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- Oh!
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- I would argue the barbershop window
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Is the greatest tag team breakup of all time.
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- Oh, my god!
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- He literally smashed
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The version of shawn michaels
as we knew it.
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- Is there a problem
with the rockers?
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I'd been a rocker forever, and I had no idea
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Who my character
was gonna be.
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- Ladies and gentlemen...
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- Then, all of a sudden,
one day,
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I'm just sort of out there--
[blows]
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It comes out.
295
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- Here is shawn michaels!
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["I'm a sexy boy" playing]
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00:10:55,547 --> 00:10:56,562
- Talk about being in love with yourself.
298
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- The heartbreak kid was a mix of elvis
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Meets freddie mercury and the lead singer
300
00:11:03,388 --> 00:11:04,663
For judas priest.
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00:11:04,890 --> 00:11:08,057
All of 'em were so secure
in their entertainment.
302
00:11:08,076 --> 00:11:10,410
- Talk about showboating--
- and in their sexuality.
303
00:11:10,504 --> 00:11:13,229
It is fact that I am the sexiest man alive.
304
00:11:13,248 --> 00:11:15,340
- It was a grown man
shaking his ass
305
00:11:15,567 --> 00:11:19,235
And he's got the chaps and
the song is just so obnoxious.
306
00:11:19,254 --> 00:11:21,921
- Shawn michaels
has got that certain something
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00:11:22,015 --> 00:11:24,331
That everybody's looking for.
308
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It was all that kind of stuff,
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Allowing me a vehicle to let this other person out.
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- Your girlfriend wants him.
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You're gonna go up and kick his ass
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But maybe he's gonna kick yours
313
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And take her anyway.
314
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I mean, there was
a lot to dislike.
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00:11:41,092 --> 00:11:44,277
- The world wrestling entertainment
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00:11:44,429 --> 00:11:49,432
Reeks of jealousy
for the heartbreak kid.
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00:11:49,451 --> 00:11:51,025
- When he first turned into the heartbreak kid,
318
00:11:51,044 --> 00:11:55,605
He was becoming sort of this
cocky kinda character.
319
00:11:55,623 --> 00:11:58,291
- I want you to take a good look
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00:11:58,443 --> 00:12:00,960
At the wrestler of the '90s.
321
00:12:01,112 --> 00:12:02,946
- And I think there was eventually a time where
322
00:12:02,964 --> 00:12:06,391
He did morph into that character.
323
00:12:06,618 --> 00:12:08,542
- The heartbreak kid
was cocky, arrogant,
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Full of himself,
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Not the biggest guy in the room,
326
00:12:12,566 --> 00:12:13,714
But definitely the biggest
attitude in the room...
327
00:12:13,734 --> 00:12:18,127
- Shawn michaels is leaving the building.
328
00:12:18,146 --> 00:12:21,314
- And dx just accentuated that.
329
00:12:21,408 --> 00:12:23,825
[cheering]
330
00:12:26,062 --> 00:12:27,561
- If you ask anybody
to describe shawn michaels
331
00:12:27,655 --> 00:12:28,488
In those days, one of the first
two words out of their mouth
332
00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:29,489
Is gonna be [bleep].
333
00:12:29,641 --> 00:12:30,656
I mean, self-described.
334
00:12:30,809 --> 00:12:33,251
Triple h was the other end
of the spectrum.
335
00:12:33,402 --> 00:12:35,645
Both literally and sort of metaphorically,
336
00:12:35,663 --> 00:12:36,980
The designated driver.
337
00:12:36,998 --> 00:12:38,089
- It wasn't always easy
338
00:12:38,241 --> 00:12:39,740
Being shawn's friend.
339
00:12:39,834 --> 00:12:41,651
He was the little guy
with the chip on his shoulder.
340
00:12:41,669 --> 00:12:45,597
- You will not ever
see a man more charismatic,
341
00:12:45,824 --> 00:12:48,491
More flamboyant, or more talented
342
00:12:48,510 --> 00:12:50,268
Than the heartbreak kid shawn michaels.
343
00:12:50,495 --> 00:12:51,252
- For the longest period of time,
344
00:12:51,346 --> 00:12:53,179
I didn't care for shawn at all.
345
00:12:53,273 --> 00:12:56,757
He was hard to deal with,
and I didn't appreciate it.
346
00:12:56,851 --> 00:12:59,927
[announcers shouting]
but there was no one that I'd
347
00:12:59,946 --> 00:13:01,112
Rather work with in the ring.
348
00:13:01,339 --> 00:13:03,430
- Shawn was doing things nobody else was
349
00:13:03,525 --> 00:13:04,524
And working on a level
350
00:13:04,676 --> 00:13:06,767
From a in-ring performer
standpoint
351
00:13:06,787 --> 00:13:08,194
But wasn't getting
the accolade of it
352
00:13:08,288 --> 00:13:11,790
And was just--he was angry and bitter about it.
353
00:13:12,017 --> 00:13:13,366
Drugs and alcohol
didn't help that.
354
00:13:13,518 --> 00:13:15,034
- From high above!
355
00:13:15,128 --> 00:13:16,352
- They're not gonna give me a pat on the back,
356
00:13:16,371 --> 00:13:17,520
So I'm gonna be
obnoxious about it.
357
00:13:17,613 --> 00:13:19,113
And it just started to turn to anger.
358
00:13:19,207 --> 00:13:22,283
Another day at the office.
359
00:13:22,302 --> 00:13:25,619
After a while,
it just got to be--
360
00:13:25,639 --> 00:13:27,454
[laughs]
361
00:13:27,474 --> 00:13:30,366
I at least need to have that.
362
00:13:30,385 --> 00:13:32,035
That, and the only guys I got real with
363
00:13:32,053 --> 00:13:33,460
Were my buddies, the kliq.
364
00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:36,463
Hunter and kev, and scott and kid.
365
00:13:36,558 --> 00:13:38,983
- The kliq was a bunch of guys
that hung out together
366
00:13:39,210 --> 00:13:40,893
And went to the bars together, ate together,
367
00:13:41,046 --> 00:13:42,395
I mean, the whole nine yards.
368
00:13:42,547 --> 00:13:43,822
Had very strong opinions
369
00:13:43,973 --> 00:13:45,398
On the business.
370
00:13:45,492 --> 00:13:47,233
- These five guys looked at professional wrestling
371
00:13:47,327 --> 00:13:50,736
In the early '90s and said,
"this is kinda lame."
372
00:13:50,889 --> 00:13:53,239
These guys, who were
kinda too cool for school
373
00:13:53,391 --> 00:13:57,502
Started telling vince that
his product wasn't up to date.
374
00:13:57,653 --> 00:13:59,745
It's hard to argue with that looking back.
375
00:13:59,898 --> 00:14:00,821
- Oh!
376
00:14:00,841 --> 00:14:02,231
- Safe to say that the '90s
377
00:14:02,250 --> 00:14:03,416
Became the decade
378
00:14:03,510 --> 00:14:04,417
Of the antihero.
379
00:14:04,569 --> 00:14:07,070
- Music, tv, even movies--
380
00:14:07,088 --> 00:14:08,329
And people started pushing boundaries
381
00:14:08,348 --> 00:14:11,591
In a way that just seemed
really edgy at the time.
382
00:14:11,685 --> 00:14:15,002
- Here is repo man!
383
00:14:15,021 --> 00:14:17,246
- As pop culture in america was getting darker,
384
00:14:17,265 --> 00:14:21,008
Wwe is, like,
the complete opposite.
385
00:14:21,027 --> 00:14:22,509
- The mantaur!
386
00:14:22,604 --> 00:14:25,421
- A lot of cartoon characters,
387
00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:27,773
Everyone in wwe had a job.
388
00:14:27,926 --> 00:14:29,592
- The home improvement-- - the plumber,
389
00:14:29,611 --> 00:14:31,703
The racecar driver, the dentist--
390
00:14:31,854 --> 00:14:33,854
Wrestling must really be doing bad if every wrestler
391
00:14:33,948 --> 00:14:36,023
Has, like, a second occupation.
392
00:14:36,042 --> 00:14:38,376
What is that, even, you know?
393
00:14:38,527 --> 00:14:40,103
Not making enough money
wrestling?
394
00:14:40,121 --> 00:14:43,456
What the [bleep]?
395
00:14:43,608 --> 00:14:45,291
We wanted to make wrestling better.
396
00:14:45,443 --> 00:14:46,533
At least, to where, like,
397
00:14:46,628 --> 00:14:48,386
And adult wasn't embarrassed to say
398
00:14:48,537 --> 00:14:50,221
"I'm a wrestling fan."
399
00:14:50,448 --> 00:14:53,057
- The business needs to change.
400
00:14:53,284 --> 00:14:55,468
We were in indianapolis,
and kevin and scott
401
00:14:55,562 --> 00:14:56,953
Had reached a boiling point.
402
00:14:57,046 --> 00:14:58,304
Shawn had reached
a boiling point.
403
00:14:58,456 --> 00:15:00,640
- It was just the five of us
sitting around
404
00:15:00,734 --> 00:15:02,458
Bsing with each other,
405
00:15:02,551 --> 00:15:04,961
And you sorta couldn't
get yourself worked up.
406
00:15:04,979 --> 00:15:06,571
- They snapped, and said,
"I can't take it anymore.
407
00:15:06,722 --> 00:15:07,964
I'm calling vince."
408
00:15:07,982 --> 00:15:09,240
- We just talked.
409
00:15:09,467 --> 00:15:11,634
It was us not knowing we're kind of describing
410
00:15:11,653 --> 00:15:13,152
The attitude era, but doing that
411
00:15:13,304 --> 00:15:14,395
And just saying this needs to be a shift.
412
00:15:14,414 --> 00:15:18,474
Yeah, some of the tradition
is respectful,
413
00:15:18,493 --> 00:15:22,069
But too much of it
is just kind of like, ugh!
414
00:15:22,088 --> 00:15:24,738
Vince said, "I've no doubt you guys believe this
415
00:15:24,832 --> 00:15:26,332
"deep down in your heart.
416
00:15:26,484 --> 00:15:27,667
Now's not the time."
417
00:15:27,761 --> 00:15:29,910
- He was reluctant.
418
00:15:29,930 --> 00:15:32,989
He feels like he has a good
idea of what people want.
419
00:15:33,007 --> 00:15:34,824
And it just wasn't working out.
420
00:15:34,917 --> 00:15:35,749
And like, you know, we had to leave
421
00:15:35,769 --> 00:15:38,770
For vince to go,
"okay, okay."
422
00:15:38,921 --> 00:15:40,846
I mean, it shouldn't
have to get to that point.
423
00:15:40,941 --> 00:15:43,775
- As we got into 1996,
424
00:15:43,926 --> 00:15:47,928
Wcw, our competitor, was being very aggressive
425
00:15:47,948 --> 00:15:50,264
In their quest for new talent.
426
00:15:50,283 --> 00:15:56,120
And new talent to wcw
was established stars from wwe.
427
00:15:56,272 --> 00:15:59,182
- The macho man randy savage and hulk hogan together!
428
00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:02,034
- It was a tumultuous time
429
00:16:02,128 --> 00:16:05,538
In our company.
430
00:16:05,690 --> 00:16:07,540
- On may 19, 1996,
431
00:16:07,634 --> 00:16:08,282
We went to a house show,
432
00:16:08,376 --> 00:16:10,359
Which was not televised.
433
00:16:10,378 --> 00:16:13,546
We would sneak in a camera past security.
434
00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:17,550
- It was the last night in wwe
for diesel and razor ramon.
435
00:16:17,702 --> 00:16:20,553
They both accepted offers for the rival company, wcw,
436
00:16:20,705 --> 00:16:24,056
And this is their swan song.
437
00:16:24,150 --> 00:16:28,544
- That night, shawn and diesel had a cage match,
438
00:16:28,563 --> 00:16:31,547
Which was the culmination
of their rivalry.
439
00:16:31,566 --> 00:16:32,973
- At the time,
diesel was a bad guy,
440
00:16:32,993 --> 00:16:34,567
Shawn michaels
was a good guy.
441
00:16:34,719 --> 00:16:36,219
The ending shows shawn michaels
442
00:16:36,237 --> 00:16:37,811
Giving diesel a superkick.
443
00:16:37,831 --> 00:16:39,646
- And diesel was laid out
in the middle of the cage,
444
00:16:39,741 --> 00:16:41,982
And here comes triple h,
445
00:16:42,076 --> 00:16:44,060
And here comes razor,
446
00:16:44,078 --> 00:16:44,894
Who had a match
earlier in the night.
447
00:16:44,912 --> 00:16:47,154
Like, what the hell is this?
448
00:16:47,173 --> 00:16:48,581
[dramatic chord]
449
00:16:48,733 --> 00:16:50,233
Your champion, your hero,
450
00:16:50,251 --> 00:16:52,677
Shawn michaels, is now hugging and kissing
451
00:16:52,904 --> 00:16:54,995
The guy that he just spent 20 minutes
452
00:16:55,089 --> 00:16:56,572
Beating the hell out of.
453
00:16:56,665 --> 00:16:57,831
- The garden just erupted.
454
00:16:57,851 --> 00:16:59,833
[crowd cheering]
455
00:16:59,853 --> 00:17:01,185
I'm screaming
like a little girl.
456
00:17:01,412 --> 00:17:03,412
Oh, my god!
- People were going ballistic.
457
00:17:03,431 --> 00:17:05,189
They're seeing something
they've never seen before
458
00:17:05,341 --> 00:17:07,583
At a moment in time.
459
00:17:07,676 --> 00:17:10,511
- It's breaking the fourth wall,
460
00:17:10,605 --> 00:17:12,363
Just telling people everything
that you had just done
461
00:17:12,515 --> 00:17:15,608
In this match--beat the hell
out of each other--
462
00:17:15,702 --> 00:17:16,683
Is bull[bleep].
463
00:17:16,703 --> 00:17:19,537
Taboo in the wrestling business.
464
00:17:19,764 --> 00:17:20,446
- It's breaking
the handshake agreement
465
00:17:20,540 --> 00:17:23,690
That wrestling is real or not.
466
00:17:23,785 --> 00:17:25,768
In pro wrestling logic,
467
00:17:25,787 --> 00:17:27,436
They're not treating this like it's real.
468
00:17:27,455 --> 00:17:29,881
- The kliq was an insult
to our business.
469
00:17:30,032 --> 00:17:30,864
If they had done that
470
00:17:30,884 --> 00:17:32,792
In the '70s, early '80s, yeah,
471
00:17:32,944 --> 00:17:33,626
All four of 'em would've got
472
00:17:33,778 --> 00:17:35,111
The [bleep] beat out of 'em.
473
00:17:35,129 --> 00:17:37,963
- We watched right up until the point, I think,
474
00:17:38,116 --> 00:17:39,799
That the four of 'em raised their hands,
475
00:17:39,951 --> 00:17:40,707
And doing their little curtain call,
476
00:17:40,802 --> 00:17:43,877
And vince said,
"let's go."
477
00:17:43,897 --> 00:17:45,971
[crowd roaring]
478
00:17:46,066 --> 00:17:47,473
- Ooh.
479
00:17:47,625 --> 00:17:49,383
You know, everybody's pissed.
480
00:17:49,477 --> 00:17:50,459
Everybody's taking it as
481
00:17:50,553 --> 00:17:53,646
They're crapping on the business,
482
00:17:53,798 --> 00:17:56,223
Not expressing a friendship.
483
00:17:56,242 --> 00:17:58,225
- Nothing you can do
to razor,
484
00:17:58,244 --> 00:17:59,393
Nothing you can do to diesel.
485
00:17:59,412 --> 00:18:01,395
They're gone.
They're wcw's problem now.
486
00:18:01,414 --> 00:18:03,730
Okay, shawn's the champion.
487
00:18:03,750 --> 00:18:05,141
There's only so much, you know,
488
00:18:05,159 --> 00:18:06,809
"shawn, don't you ever
do that again."
489
00:18:06,902 --> 00:18:10,237
Hunter, man, we can't go any further with him
490
00:18:10,256 --> 00:18:13,407
Based on the decision
that he made on that night.
491
00:18:13,426 --> 00:18:16,243
- One of vince's famous quotes:
492
00:18:16,262 --> 00:18:17,077
"you're gonna have
to learn to eat [bleep]
493
00:18:17,171 --> 00:18:18,821
And like the taste of it."
494
00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:20,431
I was supposed to win king of the ring,
495
00:18:20,658 --> 00:18:21,340
And he said, "obviously, that's not gonna happen now."
496
00:18:21,434 --> 00:18:23,750
I said, "okay."
497
00:18:23,770 --> 00:18:25,252
As I was leaving,
I turned back to him,
498
00:18:25,346 --> 00:18:28,088
And I said, "this goes back
to what we were talking about
499
00:18:28,108 --> 00:18:29,682
"in indianapolis.
500
00:18:29,776 --> 00:18:33,111
"it was the loudest reaction in madison square garden.
501
00:18:33,338 --> 00:18:34,520
"I don't understand how that's wrong.
502
00:18:34,672 --> 00:18:36,689
The business is changing.
We gotta change with it."
503
00:18:36,783 --> 00:18:38,841
[crowd cheering]
504
00:18:38,860 --> 00:18:39,675
- The curtain call-- that moment,
505
00:18:39,768 --> 00:18:43,346
That sort of wink at reality,
506
00:18:43,364 --> 00:18:44,438
It sets the stage for dx.
507
00:18:44,457 --> 00:18:46,849
Shawn michaels and triple h,
508
00:18:46,868 --> 00:18:48,200
At that point, they were bound together.
509
00:18:48,353 --> 00:18:52,112
- After kev and scott left,
we just had each other.
510
00:18:52,132 --> 00:18:54,206
That bond,
which was already strong,
511
00:18:54,300 --> 00:18:56,692
Was instantly made stronger.
512
00:18:56,711 --> 00:19:02,122
And I think hunter
really began to understand
513
00:19:02,142 --> 00:19:05,868
How much more dependent on him
I was going to become.
514
00:19:05,887 --> 00:19:08,980
♪ ♪
515
00:19:10,224 --> 00:19:10,964
- We're back, ladies and gentlemen.
516
00:19:10,984 --> 00:19:12,725
"Monday night raw."
517
00:19:12,877 --> 00:19:15,211
And here he comes!
518
00:19:15,229 --> 00:19:16,320
- After the curtain call, shawn michaels
519
00:19:16,547 --> 00:19:18,823
Was still on top of everything.
520
00:19:18,974 --> 00:19:22,142
But for triple h, it was,
you know, back to square one.
521
00:19:22,162 --> 00:19:23,386
- Hunter hearst helmsley, getting
522
00:19:23,404 --> 00:19:24,645
Jake "the snake" roberts, first round,
523
00:19:24,664 --> 00:19:26,071
King of the ring tournament.
524
00:19:26,166 --> 00:19:27,999
- He was supposed to win the
king of the ring tournament.
525
00:19:28,226 --> 00:19:29,575
- Two, yes! Yes! - I can't believe it!
526
00:19:29,669 --> 00:19:31,169
- It ended up being
stone cold steve austin,
527
00:19:31,396 --> 00:19:32,837
Which changed the course
of history in its own way.
528
00:19:33,064 --> 00:19:36,749
- Austin 3:16 says
I just whipped your ass.
529
00:19:36,843 --> 00:19:38,342
- He was gonna have to
start back over on the bottom.
530
00:19:38,494 --> 00:19:41,828
- He took a good hit,
no doubt--creative hit.
531
00:19:41,848 --> 00:19:42,405
- Nice looking cover by--oh!
532
00:19:42,498 --> 00:19:44,665
Two, and three!
533
00:19:44,759 --> 00:19:46,242
Three count is total--
534
00:19:46,260 --> 00:19:48,928
- The power of this bomb! Three count--
535
00:19:49,022 --> 00:19:51,505
- And that was just a way of punishing triple h.
536
00:19:51,599 --> 00:19:54,767
He lost some money because his
position on the cards lowered.
537
00:19:54,861 --> 00:19:56,769
He wasn't looked at as
538
00:19:56,921 --> 00:19:59,030
Exaltingly as he once was.
539
00:19:59,257 --> 00:20:00,347
- Oh, my!
540
00:20:00,441 --> 00:20:02,107
- And I said this to him, I mean,
541
00:20:02,202 --> 00:20:03,534
"you just gotta let the water
go under the bridge,
542
00:20:03,761 --> 00:20:04,944
"and you gotta get past this somehow.
543
00:20:05,096 --> 00:20:06,353
Maybe you wanna reinvent yourself a little bit."
544
00:20:06,447 --> 00:20:08,689
- No, wait a minute. Oh!
545
00:20:08,708 --> 00:20:10,708
Helmsley, and the drive to dumpster.
546
00:20:10,859 --> 00:20:12,025
- It's over.
547
00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:14,528
- I can't believe-- hooks the leg, one, two,
548
00:20:14,547 --> 00:20:16,956
And he got him.
[bell dings]
549
00:20:17,050 --> 00:20:18,624
I must say, I'm impressed with the resilience
550
00:20:18,776 --> 00:20:19,866
Of hunter hearst helmsley.
551
00:20:19,961 --> 00:20:20,960
- As my punishment came to an end,
552
00:20:21,112 --> 00:20:22,869
I was told, "hey, you know what,
553
00:20:22,964 --> 00:20:25,130
We're gonna start you back up."
554
00:20:25,283 --> 00:20:26,707
The business was
slightly changing,
555
00:20:26,801 --> 00:20:27,541
So vince had offered me
556
00:20:27,635 --> 00:20:29,042
To slowly transition out
557
00:20:29,136 --> 00:20:30,302
Of being the blue blood character
558
00:20:30,455 --> 00:20:32,230
To more what I see myself as.
559
00:20:32,381 --> 00:20:34,715
And they also felt like
if they put a heater with me,
560
00:20:34,809 --> 00:20:36,067
It would give me
a fresh coat of paint.
561
00:20:36,294 --> 00:20:38,310
Shawn and I at that point
had met joanie.
562
00:20:38,463 --> 00:20:41,388
- She was
an extremely impressive
563
00:20:41,482 --> 00:20:44,558
And jacked young lady.
564
00:20:44,577 --> 00:20:46,485
You could not help
565
00:20:46,579 --> 00:20:47,970
But notice her.
566
00:20:47,989 --> 00:20:50,581
Right away, we were like,
oh, my goodness.
567
00:20:50,808 --> 00:20:51,640
- Shawn and I both looked at each other
568
00:20:51,659 --> 00:20:53,233
At the same time
and were like,
569
00:20:53,253 --> 00:20:54,585
That's my heater.
570
00:20:54,737 --> 00:20:56,161
No one's ever done that
in the business before.
571
00:20:56,314 --> 00:21:01,742
- To have a woman bodyguard,
which was such a heat getter,
572
00:21:01,761 --> 00:21:04,653
But have one that was so unbelievably impressive
573
00:21:04,747 --> 00:21:07,914
That it could be taken realistically.
574
00:21:07,934 --> 00:21:09,600
- [grunting]
- we brought it to vince
575
00:21:09,752 --> 00:21:10,434
And he hated it.
576
00:21:10,586 --> 00:21:12,270
Didn't see it at all.
577
00:21:12,421 --> 00:21:14,087
Like, thought it was
the dumbest idea of all time.
578
00:21:14,107 --> 00:21:16,832
- I believe we were in tampa,
579
00:21:16,925 --> 00:21:19,760
And we had breakfast
with shane,
580
00:21:19,779 --> 00:21:22,505
And he thought it was
a fantastic idea.
581
00:21:22,523 --> 00:21:25,841
- Vince said, "if that girl hasn't signed with wcw yet,
582
00:21:25,860 --> 00:21:27,192
"tell her she can be your heater.
583
00:21:27,345 --> 00:21:29,695
"but if she's a screw up,
if she's a headcase,
584
00:21:29,847 --> 00:21:32,197
It's on you, it's your fault."
585
00:21:32,350 --> 00:21:35,275
- Live for "Monday night raw."
586
00:21:35,369 --> 00:21:37,353
- His lights have been dimmed.
587
00:21:37,371 --> 00:21:38,871
Oh, that--what a slap.
[crowd cheering]
588
00:21:39,023 --> 00:21:41,023
- My initial memory of chyna
589
00:21:41,042 --> 00:21:43,359
Was when she snatched terri runnels...
590
00:21:43,377 --> 00:21:44,451
[crowd cheering]
and was flinging her around
591
00:21:44,470 --> 00:21:47,029
Like a rag doll.
592
00:21:47,048 --> 00:21:49,031
Terri looked like
she had not a bone in her body.
593
00:21:49,050 --> 00:21:50,957
- Who the hell's that? Is that a woman?
594
00:21:50,977 --> 00:21:52,868
- My reaction was like,
"oh, my god.
595
00:21:52,887 --> 00:21:54,812
I've never seen
anything like this."
596
00:21:55,039 --> 00:21:56,480
- We don't condone this, ladies and gentlemen,
597
00:21:56,632 --> 00:21:58,983
- Everyone--jim ross,
598
00:21:59,134 --> 00:22:00,726
Jerry lawler,
599
00:22:00,878 --> 00:22:02,895
And us as the audience at home,
600
00:22:03,047 --> 00:22:04,380
Everybody is going...
601
00:22:04,398 --> 00:22:04,971
- I have no idea what this is about.
602
00:22:05,066 --> 00:22:08,326
- Who is this lady?
603
00:22:08,553 --> 00:22:11,329
- That is a huge woman! An amazon-like woman!
604
00:22:14,408 --> 00:22:16,650
- These are newborn--
look how tiny she is--
605
00:22:16,669 --> 00:22:17,651
These are newborn pictures
of her.
606
00:22:17,745 --> 00:22:21,397
It's kinda hard to believe
that this
607
00:22:21,415 --> 00:22:24,658
6 pound, 10 ounce thing
would grow up to be
608
00:22:24,677 --> 00:22:26,085
The ninth wonder of the world.
609
00:22:26,179 --> 00:22:29,755
I mean, that's just,
like, kinda awesome. [laughs]
610
00:22:29,849 --> 00:22:31,182
[light music]
611
00:22:31,409 --> 00:22:34,910
Joanie was born in rochester, new york,
612
00:22:34,929 --> 00:22:38,914
At 4:14 in the afternoon,
I remember it.
613
00:22:38,933 --> 00:22:40,858
She had strawberry blonde hair.
614
00:22:41,085 --> 00:22:44,344
Joan was kind of the entertainer.
615
00:22:44,364 --> 00:22:46,589
She could always liven up the crowd.
616
00:22:46,607 --> 00:22:50,701
At some point, her father and I divorced,
617
00:22:50,853 --> 00:22:51,869
And we kinda flitted
618
00:22:52,020 --> 00:22:57,282
From one apartment
to another apartment.
619
00:22:57,435 --> 00:22:59,451
The kids switched schools.
620
00:22:59,604 --> 00:23:01,937
I'm sure that was unsettling for them.
621
00:23:01,956 --> 00:23:04,548
I know it would be
unsettling for me.
622
00:23:04,775 --> 00:23:07,701
I always say, when joanie turned 15,
623
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:09,220
The devil came down and snatched her
624
00:23:09,371 --> 00:23:10,462
And took her away.
625
00:23:10,615 --> 00:23:12,631
She got involved
with a bad crowd at school.
626
00:23:12,725 --> 00:23:17,544
And I went through her room
and found some little baggies
627
00:23:17,563 --> 00:23:20,898
Of what looked like
some kinda drug.
628
00:23:21,125 --> 00:23:24,402
And so we called her down,
and we confronted her.
629
00:23:24,553 --> 00:23:27,238
And, uh, that was kinda
the beginning of the end.
630
00:23:27,465 --> 00:23:29,632
When she was 16, she left
and went with her father.
631
00:23:29,650 --> 00:23:31,300
♪ ♪
632
00:23:31,318 --> 00:23:35,304
And I didn't see her
or talk to her for 27 years.
633
00:23:35,322 --> 00:23:37,915
♪ ♪
634
00:23:38,142 --> 00:23:40,976
- Ready? Three, two, one.
- Speech.
635
00:23:40,995 --> 00:23:42,736
- Chyna definitely broke the mold
636
00:23:42,755 --> 00:23:45,756
Of what a female was
supposed to look
637
00:23:45,908 --> 00:23:47,574
And act like
in sports entertainment.
638
00:23:47,593 --> 00:23:50,261
I mean, we had women before
639
00:23:50,412 --> 00:23:51,077
Who might get involved
in a little
640
00:23:51,172 --> 00:23:52,838
Extracurricular activity.
641
00:23:52,990 --> 00:23:58,752
But nobody who had that sheer force of will and power
642
00:23:58,771 --> 00:24:00,420
That joanie
brought to the table.
643
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,347
- Unbelievable!
644
00:24:02,500 --> 00:24:04,942
- Wow! - Bart gunn weighs 270 pounds!
645
00:24:05,169 --> 00:24:07,761
- To see a woman as the muscle
for a man--
646
00:24:07,780 --> 00:24:08,837
You're not able to place why
647
00:24:08,931 --> 00:24:10,948
Something is different at first,
648
00:24:11,175 --> 00:24:12,357
But you know when you're seeing something
649
00:24:12,452 --> 00:24:15,453
For the first time, and that's what chyna was.
650
00:24:15,604 --> 00:24:18,438
- You might be the world's
most dangerous man.
651
00:24:18,532 --> 00:24:21,183
But I'm bringing something with
me even deadlier than that.
652
00:24:21,202 --> 00:24:24,110
- The world's
most dangerous woman.
653
00:24:24,130 --> 00:24:24,778
- The emergence of chyna
was something
654
00:24:24,872 --> 00:24:27,131
No one had ever seen.
655
00:24:27,282 --> 00:24:29,300
That's the kinda stuff you're waiting for as a fan.
656
00:24:29,451 --> 00:24:32,970
[crowd cheering]
657
00:24:33,121 --> 00:24:35,622
- After hall and nash leave, business is not great.
658
00:24:35,716 --> 00:24:38,033
Crowds are much smaller.
659
00:24:38,052 --> 00:24:39,368
Sometimes they're playing smaller venues.
660
00:24:39,386 --> 00:24:43,147
Wwe is not trending
in the right direction.
661
00:24:43,298 --> 00:24:44,482
- Shawn's in a cascade at this point in time.
662
00:24:44,633 --> 00:24:46,633
He's downward spiraling.
663
00:24:46,727 --> 00:24:49,487
Business is not great.
664
00:24:49,714 --> 00:24:51,137
There's a lot of banter about shawn's
665
00:24:51,232 --> 00:24:53,306
Not working as champion.
666
00:24:53,326 --> 00:24:55,067
He's collapsing under the pressure.
667
00:24:55,219 --> 00:24:57,903
I can see him falling apart.
668
00:24:58,055 --> 00:25:01,056
- Shawn came to work impaired
on more than one occasion.
669
00:25:01,149 --> 00:25:02,666
His mood swings became very drastic.
670
00:25:02,893 --> 00:25:05,744
- If I want to come
out here and look like
671
00:25:05,838 --> 00:25:08,506
A blithering idiot
on live tv, believe me,
672
00:25:08,657 --> 00:25:10,916
I'm gonna do it.
673
00:25:11,068 --> 00:25:13,736
Why? Because I can.
674
00:25:13,829 --> 00:25:16,405
- We get to lowell, massachusetts,
675
00:25:16,423 --> 00:25:19,424
And this is the night that
shawn loses his smile.
676
00:25:19,519 --> 00:25:21,685
- Here, ladies and gentlemen,
to surrender
677
00:25:21,837 --> 00:25:25,764
The world wrestling
entertainment championship.
678
00:25:25,916 --> 00:25:27,416
- I wasn't in a great place.
679
00:25:27,434 --> 00:25:29,601
The reality is, when you're a drug addict,
680
00:25:29,754 --> 00:25:30,753
You don't think well.
681
00:25:30,771 --> 00:25:33,864
Your judgment isn't great.
682
00:25:34,016 --> 00:25:37,776
Over the last couple months,
there's been a lot of talk,
683
00:25:37,928 --> 00:25:40,037
A lot revolving
around this belt.
684
00:25:40,264 --> 00:25:41,613
One thing that's not gonna
revolve around this belt
685
00:25:41,707 --> 00:25:45,358
Is going to be shawn michaels.
686
00:25:45,378 --> 00:25:46,769
In my mind, it's not me,
it's the place.
687
00:25:46,787 --> 00:25:50,272
Asking for my release
and believing
688
00:25:50,291 --> 00:25:53,366
That I would be happier
going to wcw,
689
00:25:53,386 --> 00:25:54,701
And just being with my friends.
690
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:58,280
The last several months,
I've lost a lot of things,
691
00:25:58,373 --> 00:26:00,632
And one of 'em
has been my smile.
692
00:26:00,785 --> 00:26:03,452
I just thought it was better
for everything and everyone
693
00:26:03,470 --> 00:26:05,045
That you let me move on,
694
00:26:05,139 --> 00:26:08,214
And whatever happens, happens.
695
00:26:08,309 --> 00:26:09,474
Vince just said "no."
696
00:26:09,569 --> 00:26:11,460
And he understood that, look, what you enjoy
697
00:26:11,553 --> 00:26:13,645
About this job
is the creativity
698
00:26:13,739 --> 00:26:16,556
And the chance to go out there
699
00:26:16,576 --> 00:26:19,651
And do what you believe
is your art,
700
00:26:19,804 --> 00:26:22,746
And they won't allow you to do
what it is you want to do.
701
00:26:22,898 --> 00:26:25,824
So whether it was from a business standpoint
702
00:26:25,976 --> 00:26:27,326
Or a personal standpoint,
703
00:26:27,478 --> 00:26:29,903
He wasn't gonna release me.
704
00:26:29,922 --> 00:26:32,481
- [bleep] unraveling for shawn.
705
00:26:32,499 --> 00:26:35,000
So the losing the smile thing is,
706
00:26:35,094 --> 00:26:37,502
"I gotta step away
for a minute or I'm gonna die."
707
00:26:37,655 --> 00:26:38,987
And I'm all he's got now.
708
00:26:39,006 --> 00:26:40,080
They had nothing else.
709
00:26:40,099 --> 00:26:43,100
Like, nothing.
710
00:26:43,327 --> 00:26:46,252
- Wwe's fighting battles on two fronts--
711
00:26:46,272 --> 00:26:48,922
Fighting for viewers
against wcw on Monday nights,
712
00:26:48,941 --> 00:26:53,168
But they're also fighting
internally with relevancy.
713
00:26:53,187 --> 00:26:54,002
♪ ♪
714
00:26:54,021 --> 00:26:55,687
- It was the first time that
715
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,190
Anybody had ever challenged us
716
00:26:58,342 --> 00:26:59,599
And taken it to the point
717
00:26:59,619 --> 00:27:02,268
Of actually doing
718
00:27:02,288 --> 00:27:05,122
Perceivably better than us.
719
00:27:05,349 --> 00:27:08,367
It was tough.
It was really, really tough.
720
00:27:08,519 --> 00:27:09,534
It was demoralizing,
721
00:27:09,629 --> 00:27:11,854
And people felt a little bit defeated.
722
00:27:11,872 --> 00:27:17,042
Every penny that we spent
was analyzed.
723
00:27:17,136 --> 00:27:19,637
What do we need?
What can we get by without?
724
00:27:19,864 --> 00:27:22,865
And what are we going to do
to turn this around?
725
00:27:22,958 --> 00:27:27,035
- This was a moment where
things needed to change.
726
00:27:27,054 --> 00:27:28,479
Business was bad.
727
00:27:28,706 --> 00:27:31,482
Bad. Dying.
728
00:27:31,709 --> 00:27:32,724
- And the world
wrestling entertainment
729
00:27:32,877 --> 00:27:36,153
Kept pushing shawn michaels.
730
00:27:36,304 --> 00:27:40,215
I told you time and time again,
don't push me!
731
00:27:40,234 --> 00:27:43,235
- At that point in time,
he's bitter and angry.
732
00:27:43,387 --> 00:27:46,980
- But you pushed and you
pushed and you pushed.
733
00:27:47,074 --> 00:27:50,909
And what happens when you push the heartbreak kid?
734
00:27:51,061 --> 00:27:52,744
You get a reaction!
735
00:27:52,838 --> 00:27:55,414
- I'm a little bit
at a point, like, listen,
736
00:27:55,566 --> 00:27:57,249
I gotta do what I wanna do.
737
00:27:57,401 --> 00:27:59,093
What's the worst that can happen?
738
00:28:00,404 --> 00:28:01,512
Dx is born.
739
00:28:01,663 --> 00:28:03,013
- You no longer know
what's hip.
740
00:28:03,165 --> 00:28:05,999
Traditionally hip in wrestling
741
00:28:06,018 --> 00:28:08,185
Is no longer hip.
742
00:28:08,412 --> 00:28:10,187
- Vince always said
that shawn michaels
743
00:28:10,414 --> 00:28:12,414
Reminded vince of
a young vince mcmahon--
744
00:28:12,433 --> 00:28:14,082
Defiant, attitudinal.
745
00:28:14,101 --> 00:28:16,360
- We are what is cool.
746
00:28:16,587 --> 00:28:18,011
- Vince is gonna acquiesce
to pretty much anything shawn
747
00:28:18,030 --> 00:28:20,255
Wanted to do--
within reason.
748
00:28:20,274 --> 00:28:22,441
So dx--shawn was
the catalyst for that.
749
00:28:22,535 --> 00:28:24,943
- We are the business today.
750
00:28:25,095 --> 00:28:28,096
- It was filling a need
for me personally,
751
00:28:28,190 --> 00:28:30,190
With the friendship that hunter and I had.
752
00:28:30,209 --> 00:28:31,600
And joanie was coming with us.
753
00:28:31,693 --> 00:28:35,287
And it goes back to seeing society--
754
00:28:35,381 --> 00:28:39,049
The sort of rebellious
atmosphere that was going on.
755
00:28:39,276 --> 00:28:40,943
- D-generation x was the counterculture,
756
00:28:40,961 --> 00:28:44,446
Antiestablishment crew.
757
00:28:44,539 --> 00:28:46,706
And for the survival of the company,
758
00:28:46,726 --> 00:28:49,375
Dx was sort of
a necessary irritant.
759
00:28:49,395 --> 00:28:53,063
- I'm using this vehicle
against you.
760
00:28:53,215 --> 00:28:56,400
- I saw it as inmates had
taken over the asylum.
761
00:28:56,627 --> 00:28:58,961
You're a disgrace
to professional wrestling.
762
00:28:59,054 --> 00:29:01,630
You're nothing
but a degenerate.
763
00:29:01,648 --> 00:29:03,131
The show was gonna be
all about them.
764
00:29:03,225 --> 00:29:06,910
And they minimized everyone
else to entertain themselves.
765
00:29:07,062 --> 00:29:10,138
- We said what
we wanted to say.
766
00:29:10,157 --> 00:29:11,898
I got two words for
"the hitman" bret hart.
767
00:29:11,917 --> 00:29:15,160
We went places you
weren't supposed to go.
768
00:29:15,254 --> 00:29:16,645
Suck it!
769
00:29:16,663 --> 00:29:17,996
Yeah, I mean, it pissed off
everybody.
770
00:29:18,090 --> 00:29:21,091
[laughs]
771
00:29:23,003 --> 00:29:25,003
[tense music]
772
00:29:25,155 --> 00:29:26,488
- Here he comes, ladies and gentlemen.
773
00:29:26,581 --> 00:29:31,084
Hbk, along with chyna, along with triple h.
774
00:29:31,178 --> 00:29:33,512
- There are a lot of people, they look at the '95
775
00:29:33,606 --> 00:29:36,256
Through '97 and go, "oh, man,
that's the best hbk,
776
00:29:36,275 --> 00:29:38,258
Because he didn't give two--"
777
00:29:38,277 --> 00:29:40,852
The heartbreak kid is in this business
778
00:29:40,946 --> 00:29:44,764
'cause this business
needs the heartbreak kid.
779
00:29:44,858 --> 00:29:46,933
I wasn't scared of anything.
780
00:29:46,952 --> 00:29:48,026
I didn't care about my life.
781
00:29:48,178 --> 00:29:50,679
I didn't care about money.
782
00:29:50,697 --> 00:29:53,457
I didn't care about anything.
783
00:29:53,684 --> 00:29:56,368
And when you are like that in a creative line of work
784
00:29:56,462 --> 00:29:58,537
Where it is wild, wild west,
785
00:29:58,689 --> 00:30:01,447
You are freaking unbeatable.
786
00:30:01,542 --> 00:30:02,615
- Who knows what's gonna happen?
787
00:30:02,709 --> 00:30:04,026
[bell dings]
- the juvenile michaels
788
00:30:04,044 --> 00:30:06,878
And even more juvenile hunter hearst helmsley.
789
00:30:06,972 --> 00:30:08,363
- People had said to me my whole career,
790
00:30:08,382 --> 00:30:10,790
"you haven't lived enough life
to hate [bleep] yet.
791
00:30:10,810 --> 00:30:12,701
"when you learn to have hate,
792
00:30:12,794 --> 00:30:13,201
"you're gonna make
a fortune in this business.
793
00:30:13,220 --> 00:30:15,720
[grunting]
794
00:30:15,873 --> 00:30:17,981
"that anger, that hatred inside of you will burn,
795
00:30:18,133 --> 00:30:19,207
And you'll be able to
put that out there real."
796
00:30:19,226 --> 00:30:24,321
- And triple h,
I want you to unload.
797
00:30:24,548 --> 00:30:26,806
'cause this is what you've
been waiting for, buddy.
798
00:30:26,900 --> 00:30:27,991
Get 'em.
- The promos
799
00:30:28,218 --> 00:30:29,827
That we were doing
in the beginning,
800
00:30:29,978 --> 00:30:31,403
There's a lot of anger
in those.
801
00:30:31,555 --> 00:30:33,572
That was a new world for me.
802
00:30:33,724 --> 00:30:36,408
Whether by my own hand or not, like the curtain call--
803
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:37,909
"you can't do this,
you can't do that,"
804
00:30:38,062 --> 00:30:40,504
Like, always having these
handcuffs and restraints.
805
00:30:40,731 --> 00:30:43,674
I've been sitting back
for a couple of years.
806
00:30:43,825 --> 00:30:46,568
And anger coming out of that to
know I can do more than this.
807
00:30:46,661 --> 00:30:47,845
I wanna be more than this.
808
00:30:48,072 --> 00:30:51,089
While you and the world
wrestling entertainment
809
00:30:51,183 --> 00:30:53,183
Have spread your legs
like some cheap whore.
810
00:30:53,335 --> 00:30:55,668
- You go back
and you watch the promo
811
00:30:55,688 --> 00:30:57,079
That he cut on vince,
812
00:30:57,172 --> 00:30:58,171
When he finally
got to unload on him,
813
00:30:58,265 --> 00:31:00,248
That was real.
[laughs]
814
00:31:00,342 --> 00:31:03,251
- I can distinctly remember
cutting that promo
815
00:31:03,270 --> 00:31:06,196
And seeing vince's eyes change
while I was saying it,
816
00:31:06,423 --> 00:31:08,940
And thinking to myself, I might have just went
817
00:31:09,034 --> 00:31:10,516
To the other side of the line.
818
00:31:10,611 --> 00:31:13,261
I am now taking it in my hands.
819
00:31:13,355 --> 00:31:15,280
And there is no
stopping us now.
820
00:31:15,432 --> 00:31:18,767
- There was nobody
really like dx before,
821
00:31:18,785 --> 00:31:20,619
In the sense that they
were established stars
822
00:31:20,713 --> 00:31:22,546
Who decided they'd had enough.
823
00:31:22,773 --> 00:31:23,772
- We've had enough
of this crap.
824
00:31:23,865 --> 00:31:24,882
- What? What?
- Let's go to break.
825
00:31:25,033 --> 00:31:25,549
- Oh, here we go.
- Go to break.
826
00:31:25,700 --> 00:31:27,626
- He might fire us.
827
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:28,886
- They were trying to shake
things up from within.
828
00:31:29,037 --> 00:31:31,871
- He went to a break.
How convenient.
829
00:31:31,965 --> 00:31:33,056
- They were getting
away with murder.
830
00:31:33,208 --> 00:31:34,892
They were, like,
pushing every boundary.
831
00:31:35,043 --> 00:31:37,060
- They'll do anything to humiliate anyone.
832
00:31:37,212 --> 00:31:39,379
- Every week, we're going on tv and we're crossing a line.
833
00:31:39,398 --> 00:31:40,898
We're coming back, and vince is going,
834
00:31:41,049 --> 00:31:42,807
"you can't say that, guys.
You can't do that."
835
00:31:42,902 --> 00:31:46,386
We might have to change our
name to double d-generation x.
836
00:31:46,405 --> 00:31:47,963
- Ohh!
837
00:31:48,056 --> 00:31:49,648
- I remember looking around
at the other guys.
838
00:31:49,742 --> 00:31:51,241
We're watching the monitor.
839
00:31:51,468 --> 00:31:53,911
On a weekly basis, we're looking at each other, going,
840
00:31:54,138 --> 00:31:55,804
"can they say that?
Like, I don't think
841
00:31:55,897 --> 00:31:57,080
We're allowed to say that.
842
00:31:57,307 --> 00:31:59,399
They might as well
just say, 'suck it.'"
843
00:31:59,493 --> 00:32:02,902
- D-generation x
wants you to [bleep] it!
844
00:32:02,922 --> 00:32:04,237
- Disgusting! And you've got
a smile on your face.
845
00:32:04,331 --> 00:32:06,998
- It became a battle cry.
846
00:32:07,151 --> 00:32:09,242
- I remember in high school,
my friends would be doing this
847
00:32:09,261 --> 00:32:11,670
To each other all day.
848
00:32:11,822 --> 00:32:12,504
That was just something that everyone
849
00:32:12,656 --> 00:32:14,914
Knew exactly what it was.
850
00:32:14,934 --> 00:32:16,675
- We couldn't flip people off.
851
00:32:16,827 --> 00:32:18,160
And you couldn't curse at people.
852
00:32:18,253 --> 00:32:20,662
One of the things that all of us used to do
853
00:32:20,681 --> 00:32:23,089
Would be this crotch
pointing thing.
854
00:32:23,183 --> 00:32:24,516
And you could get away
with it, 'cause nobody could--
855
00:32:24,610 --> 00:32:26,944
"did--what did he do? Did he
just point at his crotch?"
856
00:32:27,171 --> 00:32:28,837
- I don't think it was over the line.
857
00:32:28,930 --> 00:32:30,280
We were getting our tails
kicked in the ratings.
858
00:32:30,432 --> 00:32:35,677
Dx took it to the very tipping
point of going too far.
859
00:32:35,770 --> 00:32:37,437
- How dare you! - But that's what we needed.
860
00:32:37,531 --> 00:32:38,346
- Ratings are going up.
861
00:32:38,365 --> 00:32:39,698
Okay, this shock stuff
862
00:32:39,850 --> 00:32:42,534
Is creating controversy
that's working.
863
00:32:42,628 --> 00:32:44,519
- Bret hart, obviously,
you're not in a very good mood
864
00:32:44,538 --> 00:32:45,353
Considering the antics
of shawn michaels
865
00:32:45,372 --> 00:32:47,689
And hunter hearst helmsley.
866
00:32:47,708 --> 00:32:49,132
- You know, there's the bret side,
867
00:32:49,284 --> 00:32:51,543
Complaining about the stuff
we're doing on tv,
868
00:32:51,637 --> 00:32:54,196
And they think it's
disrespectful to the business.
869
00:32:54,214 --> 00:32:56,456
But I'll be honest,
we didn't give a [bleep].
870
00:32:56,475 --> 00:32:57,957
- Bret hart did have
871
00:32:58,051 --> 00:33:00,035
A problem with dx.
872
00:33:00,128 --> 00:33:01,386
- You're a guy
that has degraded
873
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:02,887
The championship belt.
874
00:33:02,982 --> 00:33:07,876
- I'll give bret hart credit
for basically naming dx,
875
00:33:07,894 --> 00:33:10,153
Because bret, in a promo,
talked about,
876
00:33:10,380 --> 00:33:12,155
"you know what you are?
You're just degenerates."
877
00:33:12,382 --> 00:33:16,809
- Why don't you two degenerates
come down here right now?
878
00:33:16,903 --> 00:33:19,162
- And that's where--I remember
sitting there with vince,
879
00:33:19,389 --> 00:33:21,314
And he's like, "they are.
They're degenerates.
880
00:33:21,333 --> 00:33:23,241
They're d-generation x."
881
00:33:23,393 --> 00:33:26,228
Dx was born.
882
00:33:26,321 --> 00:33:29,064
- We are d-generation x.
- D-generation.
883
00:33:29,082 --> 00:33:30,398
- You make the rules,
and we will break 'em!
884
00:33:30,417 --> 00:33:33,493
- Yeah, I can't say I liked it.
885
00:33:33,512 --> 00:33:36,421
That whole direction into the smut era.
886
00:33:36,573 --> 00:33:39,257
You're looking at somebody
that's got no respect
887
00:33:39,351 --> 00:33:42,911
For anything or anybody.
888
00:33:42,929 --> 00:33:45,263
They're so problematic,
and they don't
889
00:33:45,357 --> 00:33:49,100
Get along with anybody else.
890
00:33:49,194 --> 00:33:50,343
- Dx did well in the ratings.
891
00:33:50,437 --> 00:33:52,011
They were valuable
in a lot of areas.
892
00:33:52,031 --> 00:33:54,439
But you had to take the good with the bad with those guys.
893
00:33:54,591 --> 00:33:56,274
- You talked enough.
894
00:33:56,368 --> 00:33:57,350
- I can say that most of the guys in the dressing room
895
00:33:57,369 --> 00:34:00,779
Were kind of disgusted with it.
896
00:34:00,873 --> 00:34:02,264
- There's not a day went by,
897
00:34:02,282 --> 00:34:04,099
Tv or someplace, where I didn't
have to sit
898
00:34:04,117 --> 00:34:07,527
And talk to somebody about how dx was perceived.
899
00:34:07,621 --> 00:34:10,789
They did not endear themselves to the rest of the roster.
900
00:34:10,883 --> 00:34:12,382
♪ ♪
901
00:34:12,534 --> 00:34:14,051
You know, they're gonna eat at the same restaurants,
902
00:34:14,278 --> 00:34:14,959
They're gonna go to the same gym.
903
00:34:15,112 --> 00:34:16,945
They did it with themselves.
904
00:34:17,038 --> 00:34:19,464
They didn't have an entourage.
The three of 'em.
905
00:34:19,558 --> 00:34:21,558
It's like a married couple.
906
00:34:21,785 --> 00:34:23,952
- Yeah, it became a little family group.
907
00:34:24,045 --> 00:34:25,970
You got, like, two
dip[bleep] guys on the road.
908
00:34:26,123 --> 00:34:28,065
Joanie brings in a different
environment all of a sudden.
909
00:34:28,216 --> 00:34:31,126
- Chyna's role, from a television standpoint,
910
00:34:31,144 --> 00:34:33,812
She was bodyguard/babysitter.
911
00:34:33,964 --> 00:34:35,388
Behind the scenes,
look, she was babysitter
912
00:34:35,407 --> 00:34:37,982
And kinda mama.
913
00:34:38,135 --> 00:34:39,467
She took care of us.
914
00:34:39,486 --> 00:34:42,304
You know, I was not always in the best of shape.
915
00:34:42,397 --> 00:34:45,140
And everybody always sees
hunter's role in that.
916
00:34:45,233 --> 00:34:48,085
What they don't see is that
she was in the car
917
00:34:48,312 --> 00:34:51,755
Or in the hotel or not very far from that situation.
918
00:34:51,982 --> 00:34:53,331
- When shawn would
be miserable,
919
00:34:53,425 --> 00:34:54,666
Like, she was somebody that
could talk him out of it
920
00:34:54,818 --> 00:34:56,484
And could keep him
on a positive.
921
00:34:56,503 --> 00:34:59,096
I couldn't talk him out of it.
922
00:34:59,247 --> 00:35:00,430
I could just make sure he didn't kill himself.
923
00:35:00,657 --> 00:35:04,250
It definitely became
a family bond there.
924
00:35:04,344 --> 00:35:06,995
- Triple threat, right here.
925
00:35:07,088 --> 00:35:09,998
- In the mid-'90s, dx was the turning point in many ways.
926
00:35:10,091 --> 00:35:12,776
We pushed the edge,
we walked across the line.
927
00:35:13,003 --> 00:35:13,610
And we stayed there
for a while.
928
00:35:13,761 --> 00:35:16,338
- You wanna raise the bar?
929
00:35:16,431 --> 00:35:18,115
Ooh, here's a ratings clip.
930
00:35:18,342 --> 00:35:20,842
- Dx was the guys dragging the line
931
00:35:20,861 --> 00:35:22,101
As far as they possibly could.
932
00:35:22,121 --> 00:35:24,679
This became
the must-see television.
933
00:35:24,698 --> 00:35:27,773
- Shawn and I both
got jumbo weenies.
934
00:35:27,793 --> 00:35:29,609
- "can you believe that this
is what they're doing?"
935
00:35:29,628 --> 00:35:32,278
- But chyna...
- "how dare they!"
936
00:35:32,297 --> 00:35:33,964
- Show us what you're bringing
to the barbecue, girl.
937
00:35:34,191 --> 00:35:35,281
- "they're ruining
our children."
938
00:35:35,300 --> 00:35:37,692
- That is the big stick.
939
00:35:37,711 --> 00:35:39,544
- But the world
was getting edgier.
940
00:35:39,638 --> 00:35:43,365
Everything around was getting edgier.
941
00:35:43,383 --> 00:35:46,368
So you either kept up with the times or you fell behind.
942
00:35:46,386 --> 00:35:47,535
- Oh, no. - Wait a minute.
943
00:35:47,629 --> 00:35:48,628
- Whoa, whoa, whoa! Oh, my--
944
00:35:48,722 --> 00:35:49,888
- Oh, the crowd here loves it!
945
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:51,055
- So we're junkies
for the crowd.
946
00:35:51,150 --> 00:35:53,391
And the crowd is going nuts.
947
00:35:53,543 --> 00:35:55,210
So we're out there
just letting it all swing and,
948
00:35:55,228 --> 00:35:56,469
Like, we're coming back,
949
00:35:56,488 --> 00:35:58,229
And everybody's going, "you can't do that."
950
00:35:58,323 --> 00:35:59,322
And we're going like,
"they were going nuts.
951
00:35:59,549 --> 00:36:01,658
Sorry."
952
00:36:01,809 --> 00:36:03,385
"got a call from usa network
yesterday.
953
00:36:03,403 --> 00:36:04,886
"you guys are gonna get us
taken off the air.
954
00:36:04,905 --> 00:36:07,722
They're gonna go to black."
[words echoing]
955
00:36:07,741 --> 00:36:09,482
♪ ♪
956
00:36:09,576 --> 00:36:11,150
- We interrupt your regularly scheduled program
957
00:36:11,244 --> 00:36:13,170
For this special report.
958
00:36:13,397 --> 00:36:17,248
- The usa network
had sent vince a letter
959
00:36:17,401 --> 00:36:19,083
Not being happy with some of the things
960
00:36:19,236 --> 00:36:21,160
That we had done on television.
961
00:36:21,180 --> 00:36:22,420
- And he came to us and threw it down.
962
00:36:22,572 --> 00:36:24,347
Said, "what am I supposed
to do with this?"
963
00:36:24,499 --> 00:36:25,423
Right?
Both shawn and were like,
964
00:36:25,517 --> 00:36:26,516
"can we use it?"
965
00:36:26,743 --> 00:36:28,501
- Vince mcmahon now
966
00:36:28,595 --> 00:36:30,245
Was sort of at a point where
967
00:36:30,263 --> 00:36:32,597
He's kinda getting into this
rebellious thing,
968
00:36:32,691 --> 00:36:36,918
So he's wanting to push back
a little bit with usa.
969
00:36:36,937 --> 00:36:39,029
- I'm gonna say this again.
- And this was right at
970
00:36:39,180 --> 00:36:42,348
The time clinton had just cut the monica lewinsky,
971
00:36:42,367 --> 00:36:45,035
"I did not have sex
with that young intern,"
972
00:36:45,186 --> 00:36:46,536
And everybody
knew he was lying.
973
00:36:46,763 --> 00:36:47,612
Why don't you write it up top
here, shawn, in big letters?
974
00:36:47,706 --> 00:36:50,856
- And we were like,
"let's do that."
975
00:36:50,951 --> 00:36:52,617
- Good evening,
my fellow americans.
976
00:36:52,769 --> 00:36:54,452
- To reference bill clinton
and monica lewinsky
977
00:36:54,604 --> 00:36:57,047
Was really smart
because it took it
978
00:36:57,274 --> 00:37:00,108
From just being a
"we'll do whatever we wanna do"
979
00:37:00,201 --> 00:37:02,719
Sort of statement to a
"we are what this culture
980
00:37:02,946 --> 00:37:04,054
Has made us into."
981
00:37:04,205 --> 00:37:08,950
- Dx was not the reason
the late '90s
982
00:37:09,043 --> 00:37:13,212
Were sort of edgy
and at some times gross.
983
00:37:13,232 --> 00:37:14,472
They were a reflection of it.
984
00:37:14,624 --> 00:37:17,792
- Less [bleep] references.
- Aw, [bleep]!
985
00:37:17,885 --> 00:37:18,977
- Hey, watch your
[bleep] mouth.
986
00:37:19,129 --> 00:37:23,147
- "we're not the worst part
of culture.
987
00:37:23,300 --> 00:37:25,575
We're reflecting
what american culture is."
988
00:37:25,802 --> 00:37:29,821
- I did not sleep
with that young intern.
989
00:37:29,973 --> 00:37:30,747
As a matter of fact,
990
00:37:30,898 --> 00:37:35,326
I was up all night.
[laughter]
991
00:37:35,479 --> 00:37:36,494
- But I remember getting a call.
992
00:37:36,646 --> 00:37:38,997
"hey, just heard from usa."
993
00:37:39,149 --> 00:37:40,815
And I was like, "uh, okay."
994
00:37:40,908 --> 00:37:42,425
And then, like,
"they loved it."
995
00:37:42,577 --> 00:37:43,242
[the dx band's "break it down"]
996
00:37:43,262 --> 00:37:43,927
- ♪ are you ready? ♪
997
00:37:44,078 --> 00:37:46,078
- Ratings are going up.
998
00:37:46,172 --> 00:37:47,839
Your segments are hot.
999
00:37:47,991 --> 00:37:49,491
So now--
we were emboldened before.
1000
00:37:49,509 --> 00:37:51,659
The gloves are off now.
1001
00:37:51,678 --> 00:37:53,661
We are doing whatever we want.
1002
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:55,663
- ♪ break it down ♪
1003
00:37:55,757 --> 00:38:00,092
- Wrestlemania
is now x-rated!
1004
00:38:00,186 --> 00:38:01,611
- ♪ d-generation x ♪
1005
00:38:01,838 --> 00:38:04,856
- We were like the howard sterns of the wrestling world.
1006
00:38:04,950 --> 00:38:07,025
- Some of it felt a little
childish, a little crass.
1007
00:38:07,177 --> 00:38:09,935
But it was the necessary revolution.
1008
00:38:09,955 --> 00:38:13,290
It was a transformation of
what we're allowed to do on tv.
1009
00:38:13,441 --> 00:38:17,368
- So parents, get your
children's permission to watch.
1010
00:38:17,462 --> 00:38:19,354
- "iron" mike tyson is here!
1011
00:38:19,372 --> 00:38:22,023
- Discretion is advised
1012
00:38:22,042 --> 00:38:26,118
But will be completely ignored.
1013
00:38:26,212 --> 00:38:28,221
- ♪ d-generation x ♪
1014
00:38:30,475 --> 00:38:33,626
- Mike tyson is the hottest
thing in sports.
1015
00:38:33,645 --> 00:38:34,869
Many members of
the media really
1016
00:38:34,888 --> 00:38:36,813
Don't understand,
where do we belong?
1017
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:38,315
Do we belong on
the entertainment page?
1018
00:38:38,542 --> 00:38:39,983
Do we belong
on the sports page?
1019
00:38:40,134 --> 00:38:41,467
So mike involved with the
world wrestling entertainment
1020
00:38:41,486 --> 00:38:45,880
Brings the attention
and the focal point to the wwe.
1021
00:38:45,899 --> 00:38:48,232
- So wrestlemania xiv
is a crazy time.
1022
00:38:48,385 --> 00:38:52,403
Shawn michaels, steve austin, and mike tyson in the middle.
1023
00:38:52,497 --> 00:38:53,888
Shawn's a star.
1024
00:38:53,981 --> 00:38:55,573
Steve austin is becoming a big star.
1025
00:38:55,725 --> 00:38:57,241
Mike tyson's the biggest star in the world.
1026
00:38:57,336 --> 00:38:59,669
All in the main event
1027
00:38:59,896 --> 00:39:02,564
Of wrestlemania xiv.
1028
00:39:02,582 --> 00:39:08,753
- The one, the only, mike tyson!
1029
00:39:08,847 --> 00:39:10,421
[crowd cheering]
1030
00:39:10,574 --> 00:39:16,244
- No one was as big as mike
tyson was in the late '90s.
1031
00:39:16,262 --> 00:39:18,746
People were scared of mike at that time.
1032
00:39:18,765 --> 00:39:20,098
All you thought about
with mike tyson
1033
00:39:20,250 --> 00:39:21,916
Was him knocking people out
1034
00:39:21,935 --> 00:39:24,510
And, in one case,
biting off your ear.
1035
00:39:24,604 --> 00:39:26,604
- He was a little bit of a, you know, persona non grata
1036
00:39:26,756 --> 00:39:28,180
In mainstream pop culture.
1037
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:31,350
But to wwe,
that was an opportunity.
1038
00:39:31,370 --> 00:39:33,536
- I'm telling you, you're
perfect for d-generation x.
1039
00:39:33,688 --> 00:39:35,038
I'm not saying you have
to make a decision now.
1040
00:39:35,189 --> 00:39:37,540
- I can remember first getting involved with the wwe,
1041
00:39:37,692 --> 00:39:40,268
The whole ordeal with
the ear biting situation,
1042
00:39:40,286 --> 00:39:41,269
And I was just
pretty much a pariah.
1043
00:39:41,362 --> 00:39:44,272
[crowd booing]
- the baddest man
1044
00:39:44,365 --> 00:39:49,444
On the planet,
"iron" mike tyson!
1045
00:39:49,462 --> 00:39:52,130
- I was just so happy to be involved with d-generation x.
1046
00:39:52,282 --> 00:39:53,706
I'm a fan.
- Good god!
1047
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:58,377
Don't tell me that mike tyson has joined d-generation x!
1048
00:39:58,471 --> 00:39:59,729
- Who had more attitude
1049
00:39:59,881 --> 00:40:01,122
Than mike tyson?
1050
00:40:01,141 --> 00:40:02,640
Nobody.
1051
00:40:02,792 --> 00:40:04,401
Dx, they're a perfect fit.
1052
00:40:04,552 --> 00:40:07,979
- They shared this common identity as the people who
1053
00:40:08,131 --> 00:40:09,147
Push the boundaries too far.
1054
00:40:09,299 --> 00:40:12,634
- Somehow, dx managed to also bring
1055
00:40:12,727 --> 00:40:14,652
The 12-year-old kid
out of mike tyson.
1056
00:40:14,746 --> 00:40:16,304
- Look at this!
1057
00:40:16,322 --> 00:40:17,563
- We got to see a lot more from mike tyson
1058
00:40:17,582 --> 00:40:18,489
Than we'd ever seen before.
1059
00:40:18,583 --> 00:40:22,067
- Wrestlemania xiv, baby!
- Yeah!
1060
00:40:22,087 --> 00:40:25,997
- Getting shawn to wrestlemania
1061
00:40:26,091 --> 00:40:26,739
Was a battle.
1062
00:40:26,758 --> 00:40:28,908
He had a bad back.
1063
00:40:29,002 --> 00:40:31,261
He was heavily medicated.
1064
00:40:31,488 --> 00:40:34,839
- Ladies and gentlemen, the following contest
1065
00:40:34,991 --> 00:40:38,159
Is a casket match for the...
1066
00:40:38,178 --> 00:40:41,012
- I had done the casket match with taker.
1067
00:40:41,164 --> 00:40:43,255
- I threw him
over the top rope,
1068
00:40:43,349 --> 00:40:47,777
Over this giant coffin.
1069
00:40:48,004 --> 00:40:50,171
And I think
he clipped his back.
1070
00:40:50,190 --> 00:40:52,023
- I just didn't
quite get far enough.
1071
00:40:52,117 --> 00:40:55,009
Bam, I just hit the corner
on my low back.
1072
00:40:55,028 --> 00:40:57,345
Wake up the next day, and I can't move.
1073
00:40:57,363 --> 00:40:59,697
I blew the disc
and all that kinda stuff.
1074
00:40:59,849 --> 00:41:01,624
And he said,
"you can't wrestle,"
1075
00:41:01,851 --> 00:41:03,108
And I said, "nobody tells me
what to do,
1076
00:41:03,203 --> 00:41:05,870
"so I'll dope myself up
1077
00:41:06,022 --> 00:41:07,112
"and we'll make it
to wrestlemania.
1078
00:41:07,132 --> 00:41:10,467
Then, I'll let
my career be over."
1079
00:41:10,618 --> 00:41:13,136
[crowd exclaiming]
1080
00:41:13,287 --> 00:41:15,713
- So you had shawn,
who was injured,
1081
00:41:15,865 --> 00:41:18,049
Who was self-medicating,
1082
00:41:18,143 --> 00:41:21,052
And really overdoing it.
1083
00:41:21,204 --> 00:41:24,205
- There was also just a lot
going on up here with shawn.
1084
00:41:24,224 --> 00:41:26,966
His drug use was out of control.
1085
00:41:26,985 --> 00:41:29,802
- He knew that he became
addicted to the painkillers,
1086
00:41:29,821 --> 00:41:31,379
The muscle relaxers,
and so forth.
1087
00:41:31,397 --> 00:41:33,823
He was completely wasted.
1088
00:41:33,975 --> 00:41:35,717
And it was sad to see.
1089
00:41:35,735 --> 00:41:36,826
- I'd go get a luggage cart
1090
00:41:36,978 --> 00:41:40,888
And put shawn
on the luggage cart,
1091
00:41:40,907 --> 00:41:43,074
Roll him up to his room,
and get him undressed,
1092
00:41:43,226 --> 00:41:44,334
Take the dip out of his mouth,
1093
00:41:44,485 --> 00:41:46,836
And put him on his side,
put a pillow behind him
1094
00:41:46,988 --> 00:41:49,413
So he wouldn't roll over and
choke to death in his sleep.
1095
00:41:49,508 --> 00:41:53,901
Are you enabling, or are you
trying to save his life?
1096
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,495
That was my dilemma a lot.
1097
00:41:56,515 --> 00:41:58,923
- Wrestlemania,
I'm always involved.
1098
00:41:59,017 --> 00:42:00,424
It's always big.
1099
00:42:00,577 --> 00:42:03,077
Big news and big things
tend to follow me.
1100
00:42:03,170 --> 00:42:06,748
- Every day closer
we got to that day,
1101
00:42:06,766 --> 00:42:10,009
I think shawn became
a little more irrational.
1102
00:42:10,028 --> 00:42:12,086
- You don't just do this stuff
for the jollies, pal.
1103
00:42:12,179 --> 00:42:13,178
You do it because
you're a jock.
1104
00:42:13,198 --> 00:42:14,513
- He knew,
"when this is over,
1105
00:42:14,607 --> 00:42:16,849
I'm gonna go away for a while."
1106
00:42:16,943 --> 00:42:18,943
- At 50%, on my worst day,
1107
00:42:19,037 --> 00:42:21,763
With the flu, hung over,
1108
00:42:21,781 --> 00:42:23,781
I could slap the taste
out of your mouth.
1109
00:42:23,933 --> 00:42:26,768
- Shawn was in a lot of pain.
Shawn needed to get fixed.
1110
00:42:26,786 --> 00:42:28,527
Hunter was the guy that you could depend on.
1111
00:42:28,547 --> 00:42:32,215
If shawn was unable to do something,
1112
00:42:32,366 --> 00:42:34,867
You can plug hunter in
to do it.
1113
00:42:34,886 --> 00:42:36,961
And I think that paul
saw that as,
1114
00:42:37,113 --> 00:42:39,447
"this is my opportunity to
step up once shawn goes away."
1115
00:42:39,465 --> 00:42:41,874
[tense music]
1116
00:42:41,893 --> 00:42:43,226
- There were conversations with me
1117
00:42:43,453 --> 00:42:45,878
About going forward
with dx from there.
1118
00:42:45,897 --> 00:42:46,788
There was also
conversations that I knew
1119
00:42:46,806 --> 00:42:49,140
That were happening of, like,
1120
00:42:49,292 --> 00:42:50,883
"can he do that on his own?"
1121
00:42:50,977 --> 00:42:55,296
And at that point, I'm still seen as secondary to shawn,
1122
00:42:55,315 --> 00:42:56,889
And can I handle that?
1123
00:42:56,983 --> 00:42:59,058
Am I a main event player?
1124
00:42:59,077 --> 00:43:01,803
- Remember, you're
replacing shawn michaels.
1125
00:43:01,896 --> 00:43:03,805
You just don't walk off the street
1126
00:43:03,898 --> 00:43:06,732
And pick out the next shawn michaels.
1127
00:43:06,826 --> 00:43:07,491
The audience aren't dumb.
1128
00:43:07,586 --> 00:43:10,478
[crowd cheering]
1129
00:43:10,496 --> 00:43:12,496
♪ ♪
1130
00:43:12,649 --> 00:43:14,982
- Ohh!
1131
00:43:15,076 --> 00:43:17,427
- Look out! - Oh, my--oh!
1132
00:43:17,578 --> 00:43:19,337
He got it in! The stunner!
1133
00:43:19,489 --> 00:43:21,246
Mike tyson, and...
1134
00:43:21,266 --> 00:43:22,173
[crowd cheering]
austin is the champion!
1135
00:43:22,267 --> 00:43:23,916
[bell dings]
stone cold!
1136
00:43:24,010 --> 00:43:25,660
- There's only one shawn michaels.
1137
00:43:25,678 --> 00:43:29,922
For many at that time,
dx was shawn and hunter.
1138
00:43:29,941 --> 00:43:32,333
And how do you replace
abbott and costello?
1139
00:43:32,352 --> 00:43:34,001
Hello again, ladies and gentlemen,
1140
00:43:34,020 --> 00:43:35,761
And welcome to "raw"!
1141
00:43:35,780 --> 00:43:38,339
Triple h of dx is gonna make
1142
00:43:38,432 --> 00:43:40,450
A major announcement here tonight.
1143
00:43:40,677 --> 00:43:42,785
- The next night, half
the people coming up to me
1144
00:43:43,012 --> 00:43:44,512
Were saying, "dude, you gotta
knock this out of the park
1145
00:43:44,530 --> 00:43:45,847
Or it's dead in the water."
1146
00:43:45,865 --> 00:43:47,457
And the other half
were telling me that,
1147
00:43:47,608 --> 00:43:49,441
Thinking, "there's no way
you're gonna do this.
1148
00:43:49,535 --> 00:43:50,701
It's gonna suck.
So good luck."
1149
00:43:50,854 --> 00:43:55,706
When you set out to do
what no one else can do,
1150
00:43:55,859 --> 00:43:59,802
You look to your friends.
1151
00:43:59,954 --> 00:44:03,381
You look to the kliq.
1152
00:44:03,533 --> 00:44:06,291
["break it down" playing]
1153
00:44:06,386 --> 00:44:07,385
- Well, look who's back.
1154
00:44:07,537 --> 00:44:13,374
♪ ♪
1155
00:44:13,393 --> 00:44:15,801
- When scott and kev left for wcw,
1156
00:44:15,895 --> 00:44:16,969
I was gonna leave too.
1157
00:44:17,063 --> 00:44:18,637
Long story short, I had,
like, a overdose
1158
00:44:18,657 --> 00:44:21,974
In a production meeting
before tv.
1159
00:44:21,993 --> 00:44:24,568
And so vince puts me in rehab.
1160
00:44:24,663 --> 00:44:27,405
And so I was in rehab when
the curtain call happened.
1161
00:44:27,499 --> 00:44:29,557
[crowd cheering]
1162
00:44:29,575 --> 00:44:30,908
Vince has a meeting with me
telling me, like,
1163
00:44:31,060 --> 00:44:34,504
"yeah, if you wanna go to wcw,
I'll give you a week.
1164
00:44:34,655 --> 00:44:35,579
"if you stay here, you're
gonna be in the doghouse,
1165
00:44:35,732 --> 00:44:37,674
Basically, like hunter was."
1166
00:44:37,825 --> 00:44:39,324
Yeah, no. No, thanks.
1167
00:44:39,344 --> 00:44:40,251
Whoo!
1168
00:44:40,403 --> 00:44:41,585
So I went to wcw.
1169
00:44:41,738 --> 00:44:43,328
- And you--
- welcome aboard.
1170
00:44:43,423 --> 00:44:48,242
You're nwo...
All: For life!
1171
00:44:48,261 --> 00:44:49,835
- I ended up getting
fired from there.
1172
00:44:49,854 --> 00:44:52,689
As soon as I got fired, hunter found out and he called me,
1173
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:56,100
And he told me shawn was
getting ready to take time off,
1174
00:44:56,194 --> 00:44:58,844
And he wanted
to keep doing the dx thing.
1175
00:44:58,938 --> 00:45:03,199
And hunter was like, "we can
be coleaders and, like--of dx."
1176
00:45:03,426 --> 00:45:05,017
And, you know, that's how--
that's kinda
1177
00:45:05,036 --> 00:45:06,536
How he pitched it.
1178
00:45:06,763 --> 00:45:10,448
One of my best friends in
my entire life, triple h,
1179
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:13,376
He says, "dx needs your help."
1180
00:45:13,527 --> 00:45:16,120
And it starts tonight!
1181
00:45:16,214 --> 00:45:18,697
I was so nervous that I was gonna screw that up.
1182
00:45:18,717 --> 00:45:21,609
I was just happy it turned out
as good as it did, man.
1183
00:45:21,627 --> 00:45:23,553
- He shows up, crowd goes insane.
1184
00:45:23,780 --> 00:45:29,041
So now you have triple h,
chyna, and x-pac.
1185
00:45:29,060 --> 00:45:30,375
That's not all
for that night, though.
1186
00:45:30,395 --> 00:45:32,119
- The title is on the line in the cage.
1187
00:45:32,138 --> 00:45:33,545
- So later that night, the new age outlaws
1188
00:45:33,639 --> 00:45:36,065
Have a tag match against
1189
00:45:36,292 --> 00:45:38,884
Cactus jack and chainsaw charlie, terry funk.
1190
00:45:38,903 --> 00:45:40,978
And all of a sudden, in that match,
1191
00:45:41,130 --> 00:45:44,240
Dx shows up and interferes.
1192
00:45:44,391 --> 00:45:45,908
- That's dx!
1193
00:45:46,060 --> 00:45:47,485
Dx is here!
1194
00:45:47,637 --> 00:45:51,414
- Cactus and terry get beaten savagely.
1195
00:45:51,641 --> 00:45:53,140
It's ugly.
1196
00:45:53,159 --> 00:45:54,917
And then, out of that, what we're left with
1197
00:45:55,069 --> 00:45:57,402
Is this shot of the cage
1198
00:45:57,422 --> 00:46:01,482
With the new dx--
1199
00:46:01,501 --> 00:46:04,835
The new age outlaws, triple h, x-pac,
1200
00:46:04,988 --> 00:46:06,262
And chyna in the middle.
1201
00:46:06,489 --> 00:46:08,005
- My god, they're stronger than ever!
1202
00:46:08,099 --> 00:46:10,992
- I think that was, like, the
first time I got to do this.
1203
00:46:11,085 --> 00:46:14,495
For some reason, I really
wanted to do that on tv.
1204
00:46:14,514 --> 00:46:16,272
And I finally got to do it.
1205
00:46:16,499 --> 00:46:18,775
- We had no idea what we would do next.
1206
00:46:18,926 --> 00:46:24,021
But that opening salvo
sure got everybody's attention.
1207
00:46:24,173 --> 00:46:25,782
- Who would have guessed that
you take away
1208
00:46:25,933 --> 00:46:29,343
The greatest worker of our
generation, shawn michaels,
1209
00:46:29,362 --> 00:46:31,846
And instead of dx dying,
it becomes stronger than ever?
1210
00:46:31,864 --> 00:46:35,016
- This is my dx.
My army.
1211
00:46:35,034 --> 00:46:40,046
♪ ♪
1212
00:46:42,616 --> 00:46:45,359
- I was born in marietta, georgia, the summer of '69.
1213
00:46:45,378 --> 00:46:48,712
I grew up there until
I was in the fifth grade.
1214
00:46:48,807 --> 00:46:51,307
Then we moved down into the panhandle of florida.
1215
00:46:51,534 --> 00:46:53,034
My father was "bullet" bob armstrong,
1216
00:46:53,052 --> 00:46:54,644
Also a wwe hall of famer.
1217
00:46:54,795 --> 00:46:56,979
- Armstrong, he gets a victory over--
1218
00:46:57,206 --> 00:46:59,816
- I always wanted to be a professional wrestler.
1219
00:46:59,967 --> 00:47:01,800
My father actually
tried to persuade me
1220
00:47:01,894 --> 00:47:02,560
Not to get into it at all.
1221
00:47:02,712 --> 00:47:04,879
Like, it is a rough life.
1222
00:47:04,897 --> 00:47:07,715
You sacrifice a great deal
to chase this dream.
1223
00:47:07,733 --> 00:47:09,975
- Heavyweight wrestling champion bob armstrong.
1224
00:47:09,994 --> 00:47:11,661
[light music]
1225
00:47:11,888 --> 00:47:12,403
- Now, when I graduated high school,
1226
00:47:12,555 --> 00:47:14,905
I was, like, 6'4",
1227
00:47:15,058 --> 00:47:17,241
And I was about 165 pounds,
1228
00:47:17,335 --> 00:47:20,244
So I was not gonna join
a sports entertainment
1229
00:47:20,396 --> 00:47:22,654
Community anytime soon.
1230
00:47:22,674 --> 00:47:23,914
So I went into the military.
1231
00:47:24,067 --> 00:47:26,676
I had a six-year stint in the marine corps.
1232
00:47:26,903 --> 00:47:29,328
- He's a marine,
as you can tell here.
1233
00:47:29,347 --> 00:47:30,754
How you doing, brian?
1234
00:47:30,907 --> 00:47:32,164
- We went to desert storm.
1235
00:47:32,258 --> 00:47:35,834
I lived in a sand hole for six months of my life.
1236
00:47:35,928 --> 00:47:38,670
Ate more sand with every meal than I'd like to remember.
1237
00:47:38,690 --> 00:47:40,356
That was a really
scary time of my life.
1238
00:47:40,507 --> 00:47:42,692
But on the flipside
of that coin,
1239
00:47:42,843 --> 00:47:46,253
Like, it's the most proud I am
of anything in my life.
1240
00:47:46,272 --> 00:47:48,180
- I figure someday, when you
get out of the marines,
1241
00:47:48,199 --> 00:47:49,699
You're liable to be right there
in that ring with 'em.
1242
00:47:49,850 --> 00:47:50,682
- Yes, I will, mr. Fuller.
1243
00:47:50,702 --> 00:47:52,702
I'm really proud of my service.
1244
00:47:52,853 --> 00:47:55,446
Would have done more,
but wrestling came calling.
1245
00:47:55,598 --> 00:47:56,597
♪ ♪
1246
00:47:56,690 --> 00:48:00,692
- From music city, usa, jesse james!
1247
00:48:00,786 --> 00:48:03,379
- I got a tryout in wwe.
1248
00:48:03,606 --> 00:48:05,789
I was gonna be
the singing cowboy.
1249
00:48:05,942 --> 00:48:08,275
♪ you know my baby's got me
wrapped her little finger ♪
1250
00:48:08,369 --> 00:48:10,794
Times were changing, man,
1251
00:48:10,889 --> 00:48:13,114
And that singing cowboy gimmick
wasn't quite as cool
1252
00:48:13,132 --> 00:48:15,707
As they once thought it was.
1253
00:48:15,727 --> 00:48:18,786
I would say probably '96, that's when
1254
00:48:18,879 --> 00:48:21,789
The real double j
and rockabilly
1255
00:48:21,807 --> 00:48:23,882
Were first match every night, me versus billy.
1256
00:48:23,902 --> 00:48:26,310
- Rockabilly!
1257
00:48:26,462 --> 00:48:27,904
- [sighs]
1258
00:48:28,131 --> 00:48:29,238
[quietly] rockabilly.
Rockabilly.
1259
00:48:29,390 --> 00:48:31,482
I don't really
say that out loud.
1260
00:48:31,634 --> 00:48:32,800
[laughs]
1261
00:48:32,818 --> 00:48:34,135
[acoustic guitar music]
1262
00:48:34,228 --> 00:48:36,971
I was born and raised in florida.
1263
00:48:36,989 --> 00:48:39,081
I trained horses.
I rode horses all the time.
1264
00:48:39,233 --> 00:48:41,308
I was really into
the western thing.
1265
00:48:41,327 --> 00:48:43,994
I actually went to college on a rodeo scholarship,
1266
00:48:44,088 --> 00:48:45,755
Which I know people don't think that's a thing,
1267
00:48:45,982 --> 00:48:47,815
But it is a thing, and I did that.
1268
00:48:47,833 --> 00:48:50,242
Wrestling was never in the cards for me.
1269
00:48:50,261 --> 00:48:52,670
I didn't even know what wrestling was.
1270
00:48:52,764 --> 00:48:54,764
- Rolling into the ring, and you see 'em holding--
1271
00:48:54,915 --> 00:48:56,323
- Ron and don harris,
they're two twins
1272
00:48:56,342 --> 00:48:59,084
Who actually got me started.
1273
00:48:59,103 --> 00:49:01,679
A buddy of mine owned
a gym in orlando.
1274
00:49:01,831 --> 00:49:04,089
Ron and don harris came in there one day.
1275
00:49:04,108 --> 00:49:05,942
Like, "hey, what are you guys
doing? How you been?
1276
00:49:06,169 --> 00:49:06,758
What's going on?"
and they go, "we're wrestling."
1277
00:49:06,778 --> 00:49:10,095
And I go, "you're what?"
1278
00:49:10,114 --> 00:49:11,263
So, I finally gave in and went,
"okay,
1279
00:49:11,357 --> 00:49:13,674
"let me give this a shot.
1280
00:49:13,693 --> 00:49:15,342
Let me try it, see what
this is all about."
1281
00:49:15,361 --> 00:49:18,679
So the early part of '92,
1282
00:49:18,698 --> 00:49:21,182
Went and had a tryout with wwe.
1283
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:22,850
Vince looks, he goes, "hey,
1284
00:49:22,943 --> 00:49:24,276
"we'd like to offer you a contract.
1285
00:49:24,295 --> 00:49:26,203
We'd like you to look it over."
1286
00:49:26,297 --> 00:49:28,022
So I looked at vince and said, "hey, I have a job.
1287
00:49:28,115 --> 00:49:29,465
Can I just do this
on the weekend?"
1288
00:49:29,692 --> 00:49:32,376
He literally laughs,
the old vince--
1289
00:49:32,470 --> 00:49:34,136
"heh, heh, heh."
1290
00:49:34,288 --> 00:49:36,363
Laughs the vince laugh,
and goes, "no,
1291
00:49:36,457 --> 00:49:38,716
I think you'll be all right."
1292
00:49:38,868 --> 00:49:42,144
♪ ♪
1293
00:49:42,296 --> 00:49:44,722
- Hey, I'm bart,
and this here is billy.
1294
00:49:44,874 --> 00:49:46,724
[gunfire]
1295
00:49:46,876 --> 00:49:48,209
♪ ♪
1296
00:49:48,227 --> 00:49:49,893
- If you watch "Monday night raw"
1297
00:49:49,988 --> 00:49:52,563
In the mid-'90s, you will
see a lot of billy gunn.
1298
00:49:52,657 --> 00:49:55,216
The smoking gunns were a significant part
1299
00:49:55,234 --> 00:49:58,143
Part of a relatively diminished wwe roster.
1300
00:49:58,162 --> 00:50:01,238
But he's a member of a tag team
of fake brother cowboys.
1301
00:50:01,332 --> 00:50:04,149
♪ ♪
1302
00:50:04,243 --> 00:50:06,060
When they tried to push him as a singles competitor,
1303
00:50:06,078 --> 00:50:06,577
It didn't work.
1304
00:50:06,671 --> 00:50:08,746
[crowd jeering]
1305
00:50:08,898 --> 00:50:10,506
- I was doing the rockabilly thing,
1306
00:50:10,733 --> 00:50:14,159
Which was going
absolutely nowhere.
1307
00:50:14,253 --> 00:50:16,679
Nowhere.
- For the ride--
1308
00:50:16,830 --> 00:50:17,905
- They were gonna fire me.
1309
00:50:17,923 --> 00:50:21,183
They were gonna
fire brian--road dogg.
1310
00:50:21,410 --> 00:50:23,594
Then, all of a sudden,
they said, "hey,
1311
00:50:23,746 --> 00:50:25,855
"these guys are going nowhere.
1312
00:50:26,006 --> 00:50:29,341
Let's stick 'em together and
let 'em go nowhere together."
1313
00:50:29,435 --> 00:50:32,586
And this, people, is where
we form the new age outlaws.
1314
00:50:32,605 --> 00:50:34,772
- Oh, you didn't know?
1315
00:50:34,866 --> 00:50:36,590
♪ ♪
1316
00:50:36,683 --> 00:50:40,352
Your ass better call somebody!
1317
00:50:40,446 --> 00:50:42,705
- The new age outlaws are a fascinating wrestling story.
1318
00:50:42,932 --> 00:50:44,040
They're one of those
examples of sometimes
1319
00:50:44,191 --> 00:50:46,784
One plus one equals three.
1320
00:50:46,936 --> 00:50:48,210
- Those guys have both
been around the block
1321
00:50:48,362 --> 00:50:49,861
In different incarnations.
1322
00:50:49,881 --> 00:50:53,215
But we haven't found the role
for them to fit in.
1323
00:50:53,367 --> 00:50:54,032
- And it was shawn.
1324
00:50:54,052 --> 00:50:54,942
I remember shawn coming
1325
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:57,945
To us and going, "hey, man,
1326
00:50:57,963 --> 00:51:00,114
"you get these guys
out of these silly gimmicks.
1327
00:51:00,132 --> 00:51:01,131
Put them together as a tag team."
1328
00:51:01,284 --> 00:51:03,059
- The road dogg and rockabilly?
1329
00:51:03,286 --> 00:51:04,226
- "they'll be a hell of a team."
1330
00:51:04,378 --> 00:51:05,710
- I don't know who did it,
1331
00:51:05,730 --> 00:51:08,064
But I'm glad somebody
had mentioned it.
1332
00:51:08,291 --> 00:51:10,457
- Why don't you shut your hole
and allow me to do
1333
00:51:10,476 --> 00:51:13,069
The announcing around here?
1334
00:51:13,296 --> 00:51:14,553
- The best talents
are natural extensions
1335
00:51:14,647 --> 00:51:15,571
Of their own personality.
1336
00:51:15,722 --> 00:51:17,314
- You do not deserve it.
1337
00:51:17,466 --> 00:51:18,982
- The closer you can be to being yourself
1338
00:51:19,135 --> 00:51:19,817
In this environment...
1339
00:51:19,969 --> 00:51:21,318
- But you about to get--
1340
00:51:21,470 --> 00:51:22,469
- The better off you're gonna be.
1341
00:51:22,488 --> 00:51:23,746
And those guys were spot on.
1342
00:51:23,973 --> 00:51:27,566
- The original badass
billy gunn.
1343
00:51:27,585 --> 00:51:30,311
- Billy was such
a great athlete
1344
00:51:30,404 --> 00:51:33,405
And such a motivated
competitor.
1345
00:51:33,424 --> 00:51:35,649
One of the most competitive
people I've ever met.
1346
00:51:35,742 --> 00:51:37,985
- Allow me to introduce myself.
1347
00:51:38,003 --> 00:51:40,654
- And then we get brian
armstrong, road dogg.
1348
00:51:40,747 --> 00:51:42,673
We get to see his sense of humor.
1349
00:51:42,767 --> 00:51:47,085
- I am not an [bleep].
1350
00:51:47,105 --> 00:51:49,346
[crowd cheering]
- every time we would go out
1351
00:51:49,498 --> 00:51:50,922
Of the curtain,
he'd look at me and go,
1352
00:51:50,942 --> 00:51:52,333
"oh, my god, I'm so lost.
I don't know what to say."
1353
00:51:52,351 --> 00:51:54,259
And our music would play,
and I'd just kick him out,
1354
00:51:54,278 --> 00:51:55,853
And he'd just start
rattling it off.
1355
00:51:56,005 --> 00:51:58,839
- You maple leaf
loving freaks.
1356
00:51:58,858 --> 00:52:01,842
- [laughs] yeah.
We were put together as a team.
1357
00:52:01,935 --> 00:52:03,285
And so they didn't
have any time
1358
00:52:03,437 --> 00:52:05,028
To come up with the music.
1359
00:52:05,181 --> 00:52:06,605
So I just thought, well, man, who needs music?
1360
00:52:06,699 --> 00:52:10,033
Give me a microphone, and I'll get us to the ring.
1361
00:52:10,186 --> 00:52:10,701
♪ ♪
1362
00:52:10,853 --> 00:52:14,446
Whoa! What a flush!
1363
00:52:14,465 --> 00:52:16,540
- When the road dogg and
billy gunn first teamed up,
1364
00:52:16,692 --> 00:52:20,027
There was a sort of ease
in their shoulders.
1365
00:52:20,045 --> 00:52:23,530
There was a feeling that this was cool and right.
1366
00:52:23,549 --> 00:52:26,049
It just felt more fun and more interesting than
1367
00:52:26,202 --> 00:52:28,051
Just about everything else on the screen.
1368
00:52:28,204 --> 00:52:29,478
- Shawn and I, we liked
both of them a lot.
1369
00:52:29,630 --> 00:52:32,631
They were both
really good workers.
1370
00:52:32,725 --> 00:52:36,652
And kind of organically put this relationship on tv
1371
00:52:36,803 --> 00:52:39,730
And let them build.
1372
00:52:39,824 --> 00:52:41,824
And when the time comes... - Wait a minute!
1373
00:52:42,051 --> 00:52:43,066
I can't believe it! [bell dings]
1374
00:52:43,219 --> 00:52:44,218
- We'll pull them
into the group.
1375
00:52:44,311 --> 00:52:45,995
We'll make a larger faction.
1376
00:52:46,146 --> 00:52:47,571
Eventually, it would work out great,
1377
00:52:47,723 --> 00:52:49,165
'cause once shawn was hurt and had to leave,
1378
00:52:49,316 --> 00:52:52,001
It gave me a giant shoe to drop.
1379
00:52:52,228 --> 00:52:54,819
It just gave life to something that
1380
00:52:54,839 --> 00:52:57,840
Was probably dead at that point
if that didn't happen.
1381
00:52:57,991 --> 00:53:00,250
- We got two words for ya!
1382
00:53:00,403 --> 00:53:01,402
- They added what that dish needed.
1383
00:53:01,495 --> 00:53:03,737
The seasoning it was waiting for.
1384
00:53:03,756 --> 00:53:04,847
I don't think the second
version of dx
1385
00:53:05,074 --> 00:53:06,240
Would have been successful
whatsoever
1386
00:53:06,258 --> 00:53:07,516
If it hadn't been for road dogg and billy.
1387
00:53:07,743 --> 00:53:10,352
- Ladies and gentlemen,
boys and girls,
1388
00:53:10,504 --> 00:53:12,246
Children of all ages,
1389
00:53:12,264 --> 00:53:15,191
D-generation x proudly brings
to you
1390
00:53:15,418 --> 00:53:19,695
Its tag team champions
of the world,
1391
00:53:19,846 --> 00:53:20,529
The road dogg jesse james,
1392
00:53:20,681 --> 00:53:22,514
The badass billy gunn,
1393
00:53:22,608 --> 00:53:26,593
The new age outlaws!
1394
00:53:26,687 --> 00:53:29,371
[crowd cheering]
- I had chased my dream
1395
00:53:29,523 --> 00:53:31,040
And caught it by the tail,
1396
00:53:31,191 --> 00:53:34,293
And I was living it.
1397
00:53:36,605 --> 00:53:37,621
[rock music playing]
- oh, you didn't know?
1398
00:53:37,773 --> 00:53:40,941
♪ ♪
1399
00:53:41,034 --> 00:53:45,221
Your ass better call somebody!
1400
00:53:45,372 --> 00:53:46,964
- The second you hear
1401
00:53:47,116 --> 00:53:48,298
The beginning of their song,
1402
00:53:48,392 --> 00:53:49,207
It's over.
1403
00:53:49,227 --> 00:53:50,801
- It was just three notes.
1404
00:53:50,953 --> 00:53:53,395
♪ dun dun dun dun ♪
1405
00:53:53,547 --> 00:53:54,972
And the audience erupts.
1406
00:53:55,124 --> 00:53:56,881
"you better call somebody."
1407
00:53:56,901 --> 00:54:00,644
- Whenever you hear the dx music,
1408
00:54:00,796 --> 00:54:02,813
People lose their minds, legit.
1409
00:54:02,965 --> 00:54:05,649
- It's instantly recognizable,
1410
00:54:05,801 --> 00:54:06,800
And it's like a trumpet
1411
00:54:06,893 --> 00:54:10,079
Heralding the arrival
of major stars.
1412
00:54:10,230 --> 00:54:11,747
- We got two words for ya!
1413
00:54:11,898 --> 00:54:13,807
All: Suck it!
1414
00:54:13,826 --> 00:54:15,993
Crowd:
Suck it! Suck it!
1415
00:54:16,145 --> 00:54:18,754
- Let's get ready to suck it!
1416
00:54:18,905 --> 00:54:22,165
- The second version of dx
1417
00:54:22,260 --> 00:54:25,335
Had no business being
as vital as the first version.
1418
00:54:25,488 --> 00:54:29,098
And yet, with the road dogg, with billy gunn, with x-pac,
1419
00:54:29,325 --> 00:54:31,341
And with triple h sort of reinventing himself,
1420
00:54:31,435 --> 00:54:32,751
In some ways, the quintessential version of dx
1421
00:54:32,845 --> 00:54:36,163
Was the second try at it.
1422
00:54:36,181 --> 00:54:39,275
- I feel like dx had
two different versions.
1423
00:54:39,426 --> 00:54:41,777
The first version was shawn and hunter against authority.
1424
00:54:41,928 --> 00:54:46,340
The other version
was the more hip.
1425
00:54:46,358 --> 00:54:47,599
They're cooler.
1426
00:54:47,618 --> 00:54:50,193
Everybody wants to have a dx on their shirt,
1427
00:54:50,346 --> 00:54:51,954
And everybody wants to say, "suck it."
1428
00:54:52,181 --> 00:54:54,531
Everybody was invested
in dx because
1429
00:54:54,683 --> 00:54:57,126
You never knew what
you were gonna get.
1430
00:54:57,277 --> 00:54:58,368
- What are we doing today?
1431
00:54:58,521 --> 00:55:00,612
What's cool stuff
that we're doing?
1432
00:55:00,631 --> 00:55:02,689
- We're gonna go
to wcw's offices.
1433
00:55:02,708 --> 00:55:06,026
- One of the most memorable
things that dx did
1434
00:55:06,045 --> 00:55:08,286
Was the invasion.
1435
00:55:08,380 --> 00:55:09,713
- By the spring of '98,
1436
00:55:09,865 --> 00:55:12,624
Wcw had been winning in the ratings for 83 weeks.
1437
00:55:12,718 --> 00:55:15,385
Wwe is finally neck-and-neck.
1438
00:55:15,479 --> 00:55:17,796
Wcw, like, competing for
viewers on a Monday night
1439
00:55:17,815 --> 00:55:19,315
I guess isn't enough,
because they decide
1440
00:55:19,542 --> 00:55:22,059
To start running the same towns as wwe
1441
00:55:22,211 --> 00:55:23,210
Was running at the same time.
1442
00:55:23,303 --> 00:55:25,546
- If we were going
into a marketplace,
1443
00:55:25,564 --> 00:55:27,138
They would try to go in there
a few weeks before us,
1444
00:55:27,158 --> 00:55:31,885
Put tickets on sale, try to kill our business.
1445
00:55:31,904 --> 00:55:35,331
I was on a creative call
maybe couple of weeks earlier,
1446
00:55:35,558 --> 00:55:37,816
And we were all just
bull[bleep] about what they
1447
00:55:37,835 --> 00:55:40,002
Were doing, and man, these guys
are running the scope,
1448
00:55:40,153 --> 00:55:41,745
It's just down the street.
1449
00:55:41,897 --> 00:55:45,657
A joke was made on that call
about freakin' just,
1450
00:55:45,751 --> 00:55:48,068
Let's get a tank and roll it
down there, and you know--
1451
00:55:48,161 --> 00:55:50,571
And then that slowly became a,
1452
00:55:50,664 --> 00:55:53,349
"what if we did something
on that?"
1453
00:55:53,576 --> 00:55:55,075
- Attention!
1454
00:55:55,094 --> 00:55:57,427
- Wcw, goodbye.
1455
00:55:57,580 --> 00:55:59,429
[laughs]
you are--you are done.
1456
00:55:59,523 --> 00:56:01,415
All: Let's go!
1457
00:56:01,508 --> 00:56:03,750
- "you guys are goin' over.
1458
00:56:03,844 --> 00:56:04,860
"you're gonna drive a tank.
1459
00:56:05,011 --> 00:56:07,104
"you're gonna have
a loudspeaker.
1460
00:56:07,256 --> 00:56:09,272
You're gonna try to get into the building."
1461
00:56:09,425 --> 00:56:11,592
And we all looked
at each other and went,
1462
00:56:11,610 --> 00:56:13,017
"oh, hell yes!"
1463
00:56:13,037 --> 00:56:17,188
- Ladies and gentlemen,
d-generation x
1464
00:56:17,282 --> 00:56:20,100
Spits in the face of wcw.
1465
00:56:20,119 --> 00:56:22,378
All: Bischoff sucks!
Bischoff sucks!
1466
00:56:22,605 --> 00:56:23,361
- When you do
something like that,
1467
00:56:23,455 --> 00:56:25,864
There's major heat on you.
1468
00:56:25,883 --> 00:56:27,049
There's, like, two buyers
in the industry,
1469
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:29,626
And you're burning your bridge
with one of 'em.
1470
00:56:29,778 --> 00:56:31,111
- This is d-generation x!
1471
00:56:31,130 --> 00:56:32,888
- They asked us, "hey, you okay with doing this?"
1472
00:56:33,115 --> 00:56:33,947
And, like, every one of us was like,
1473
00:56:33,966 --> 00:56:36,875
"hell--like, absolutely."
1474
00:56:36,894 --> 00:56:39,728
- D-generation x
knocks at your door!
1475
00:56:39,955 --> 00:56:41,212
Get a shot of them
closing the gate!
1476
00:56:41,306 --> 00:56:44,400
Wcw is a bunch of cowards!
1477
00:56:44,551 --> 00:56:45,734
- We start banging on the door.
1478
00:56:45,886 --> 00:56:48,128
"hey, eric bischoff,
open the door!
1479
00:56:48,147 --> 00:56:49,463
We just wanna say hello."
1480
00:56:49,556 --> 00:56:51,222
- We need to talk
to mr. Bischoff.
1481
00:56:51,316 --> 00:56:52,816
- All we wanna do is talk.
1482
00:56:52,910 --> 00:56:55,152
- Now, you look back,
and you go, how dumb was it
1483
00:56:55,246 --> 00:56:56,970
Not to open the door?
1484
00:56:56,989 --> 00:56:59,656
You could've had the hottest thing at the time
1485
00:56:59,808 --> 00:57:01,583
On your show,
for god's sakes.
1486
00:57:04,255 --> 00:57:07,330
- Pisses me off.
1487
00:57:07,483 --> 00:57:10,426
Just pisses me off.
1488
00:57:10,577 --> 00:57:13,929
Because, had I known,
had I been aware,
1489
00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:16,581
In the moment--because I was doing live television.
1490
00:57:16,675 --> 00:57:20,327
I was in the freaking ring
with a microphone in my hand.
1491
00:57:20,345 --> 00:57:24,773
Had I had the time to process this and react quickly enough,
1492
00:57:24,925 --> 00:57:27,609
I would have told 'em to open
the doors and let 'em in.
1493
00:57:27,761 --> 00:57:30,687
We're gonna have the greatest
television show of all time.
1494
00:57:30,839 --> 00:57:33,356
It would've been awesome.
1495
00:57:33,509 --> 00:57:35,676
I just didn't get
that opportunity.
1496
00:57:35,694 --> 00:57:38,512
- It was a--
beyond a "holy [bleep]"
1497
00:57:38,530 --> 00:57:40,438
That we would do something
like that.
1498
00:57:40,458 --> 00:57:42,516
And it couldn't have
worked out any better for us.
1499
00:57:42,534 --> 00:57:43,942
- Who rules
professional wrestling?
1500
00:57:44,036 --> 00:57:47,796
- Dx.
All: Yeah!
1501
00:57:47,948 --> 00:57:50,799
- As soon as we went and knocked on wcw's door,
1502
00:57:51,026 --> 00:57:54,953
Our ratings overtook wcw,
and we never looked back.
1503
00:57:54,972 --> 00:57:58,807
- The invasion really
sounded the alarm
1504
00:57:58,959 --> 00:58:01,868
That something special
was taking place.
1505
00:58:01,887 --> 00:58:03,887
- In the mid-'90s, when everything was exploding,
1506
00:58:04,039 --> 00:58:05,038
It was like the beatles,
1507
00:58:05,057 --> 00:58:08,208
No matter where they went.
1508
00:58:08,301 --> 00:58:08,984
You had the new age outlaws,
megastars.
1509
00:58:09,135 --> 00:58:12,212
You had x-pac, megastar.
1510
00:58:12,231 --> 00:58:14,973
Chyna, megastar.
1511
00:58:14,992 --> 00:58:18,494
And you had hunter,
and he sat on top of the heap.
1512
00:58:18,721 --> 00:58:20,478
- We were just happy
to come to work.
1513
00:58:20,498 --> 00:58:20,996
We were happy to hang out
with each other.
1514
00:58:21,147 --> 00:58:24,558
And we had chyna.
1515
00:58:24,651 --> 00:58:26,651
[grunting]
she was the piece
1516
00:58:26,670 --> 00:58:28,987
Of the puzzle
that stuck it all together.
1517
00:58:29,006 --> 00:58:31,340
- Chyna was sort of the glue,
I think, in the group.
1518
00:58:31,567 --> 00:58:32,082
- She was legit, like,
the magic ingredient
1519
00:58:32,234 --> 00:58:34,918
Of that whole thing.
1520
00:58:35,070 --> 00:58:37,846
- If anybody's gonna initiate
a dx split, it's gonna be me.
1521
00:58:37,998 --> 00:58:39,848
[crowd cheering]
1522
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:43,260
- What I remember most about dx, in terms of regular life,
1523
00:58:43,354 --> 00:58:44,427
It's the chop.
1524
00:58:44,522 --> 00:58:46,413
I mean, come on.
1525
00:58:46,506 --> 00:58:49,858
- There's just
this bad boy edge to it
1526
00:58:50,010 --> 00:58:52,085
That was so much fun.
1527
00:58:52,104 --> 00:58:53,920
- Now the crotch chop is just everywhere.
1528
00:58:54,014 --> 00:58:55,088
A lot of people would see people
1529
00:58:55,181 --> 00:58:56,848
Doing the crotch chop different places
1530
00:58:56,867 --> 00:58:58,016
And not have any idea
where it came from.
1531
00:58:58,035 --> 00:59:01,185
It was just part of culture.
1532
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:02,445
- Oh, yeah!
[crowd cheering]
1533
00:59:02,598 --> 00:59:03,947
- If you're from
my generation, you've seen
1534
00:59:04,041 --> 00:59:05,857
So many kids go
across the graduation stage
1535
00:59:05,951 --> 00:59:07,358
Doing a crotch chop.
1536
00:59:07,378 --> 00:59:11,696
- Doing the "suck it" probably
caused more suspensions
1537
00:59:11,715 --> 00:59:13,790
Than any other thing, like,
in the history
1538
00:59:13,884 --> 00:59:15,275
Of school in america.
1539
00:59:15,294 --> 00:59:18,387
- I'm at disneyland in 1999,
1540
00:59:18,614 --> 00:59:21,298
And my wife says,
"mick, this sounds crazy,
1541
00:59:21,392 --> 00:59:22,558
"but I believe pooh bear
1542
00:59:22,709 --> 00:59:25,227
Is trying to say something
to you."
1543
00:59:25,454 --> 00:59:27,470
And I look over,
and pooh bear gives me the--
1544
00:59:27,565 --> 00:59:28,789
Pooh bear!
1545
00:59:28,882 --> 00:59:30,732
Pooh bear's doing
the crotch chop.
1546
00:59:30,884 --> 00:59:32,793
- Suck it!
- People who aren't
1547
00:59:32,811 --> 00:59:35,796
Wrestling fans,
even they knew d-generation x.
1548
00:59:35,814 --> 00:59:37,814
♪ ♪
1549
00:59:37,966 --> 00:59:39,223
[coughs]
1550
00:59:39,318 --> 00:59:40,133
- Once you become somebody
1551
00:59:40,152 --> 00:59:42,485
In this industry,
1552
00:59:42,580 --> 00:59:43,895
Everybody wants a piece.
1553
00:59:43,914 --> 00:59:45,989
Great problem to have.
1554
00:59:46,083 --> 00:59:47,991
But you don't realize how much sacrifice
1555
00:59:48,143 --> 00:59:50,919
You have to make to carry on that way.
1556
00:59:51,146 --> 00:59:52,996
- It was just everywhere
you went, man.
1557
00:59:53,090 --> 00:59:55,498
Like, grown-ass adults
couldn't help themselves.
1558
00:59:55,593 --> 00:59:57,092
Like, they would just say, "I don't care
1559
00:59:57,243 --> 00:59:58,985
If you're with your family. Can I have a picture?"
1560
00:59:59,004 --> 01:00:00,929
Or, "sign this for me?"
1561
01:00:01,081 --> 01:00:02,080
- You gotta understand something.
1562
01:00:02,174 --> 01:00:03,156
If you came out of the attitude era,
1563
01:00:03,249 --> 01:00:06,768
You were a [bleep] rock star.
1564
01:00:06,995 --> 01:00:10,513
That's intoxicating
to a lot of people.
1565
01:00:10,608 --> 01:00:12,107
- I got caught up. I got lost in the limelight.
1566
01:00:12,334 --> 01:00:14,684
You know, as I got more successful,
1567
01:00:14,837 --> 01:00:17,170
It got more out of hand and out of hand,
1568
01:00:17,189 --> 01:00:19,430
And I had enough money
to buy anything I wanted,
1569
01:00:19,450 --> 01:00:22,784
And so that was a--that was
a curse, not a blessing.
1570
01:00:22,936 --> 01:00:24,845
- We were unfireable.
1571
01:00:24,863 --> 01:00:26,179
So I pushed the limits
of everything
1572
01:00:26,198 --> 01:00:28,106
As far as I possibly could,
1573
01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:30,792
Because I was unfireable.
1574
01:00:30,944 --> 01:00:33,854
And when that happens...
1575
01:00:33,947 --> 01:00:36,022
Then, you fall
into a dark spot.
1576
01:00:36,041 --> 01:00:37,281
I got caught up in it.
1577
01:00:37,376 --> 01:00:41,695
I started buying into the rock star lifestyle,
1578
01:00:41,788 --> 01:00:43,363
The script stuff and the drugs,
1579
01:00:43,456 --> 01:00:44,640
And then it caught up with me,
1580
01:00:44,791 --> 01:00:46,475
And things got really bad.
1581
01:00:46,626 --> 01:00:47,625
I mean, really bad.
1582
01:00:47,719 --> 01:00:51,796
- You're young,
making a lot of money,
1583
01:00:51,890 --> 01:00:54,483
Surrounded by people that just wanna be around you,
1584
01:00:54,634 --> 01:00:57,986
And I think that,
out of everyone in dx,
1585
01:00:58,213 --> 01:01:01,064
The one that it hit hardest
at the time
1586
01:01:01,216 --> 01:01:02,399
Was probably brian james.
1587
01:01:02,493 --> 01:01:04,067
[laughter]
1588
01:01:04,219 --> 01:01:05,902
- My drinking and drugging had gotten bad,
1589
01:01:05,996 --> 01:01:09,055
And I was separated from
my wife for a little while,
1590
01:01:09,074 --> 01:01:10,223
And I couldn't see my kids,
1591
01:01:10,316 --> 01:01:14,152
And I had wrecked a couple
of cars on pills.
1592
01:01:14,171 --> 01:01:17,580
And at one point, I was
messed up in a hotel lobby,
1593
01:01:17,733 --> 01:01:20,734
And bruce prichard
kinda walked up on me
1594
01:01:20,752 --> 01:01:22,010
And caught me there,
all screwed up,
1595
01:01:22,237 --> 01:01:25,088
And I kinda just broke down
and told him everything
1596
01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:26,406
That was going on in my life.
1597
01:01:26,425 --> 01:01:30,076
And I--he mentioned
I should go home.
1598
01:01:30,095 --> 01:01:32,595
My downward spiral
didn't stop there.
1599
01:01:32,690 --> 01:01:33,855
It continued.
1600
01:01:34,082 --> 01:01:35,673
I thought that was
my rock bottom.
1601
01:01:35,767 --> 01:01:38,819
I had a little further
to fall.
1602
01:01:41,773 --> 01:01:46,760
- This is my dx.
My army.
1603
01:01:46,778 --> 01:01:48,537
When I'm hanging out with dx, yeah, we're doing
1604
01:01:48,764 --> 01:01:50,205
A lot of fun stuff, having a good time,
1605
01:01:50,432 --> 01:01:50,780
But what am I doing?
1606
01:01:50,874 --> 01:01:53,600
[crowd cheering]
1607
01:01:53,618 --> 01:01:55,377
Is it getting me any closer to where I wanna be?
1608
01:01:55,528 --> 01:01:58,362
Nobody wants to see me fight
steve austin for the belt.
1609
01:01:58,382 --> 01:02:00,623
We're a bunch of good guys people like,
1610
01:02:00,776 --> 01:02:03,367
But because I'm a fan favorite and he's a fan favorite,
1611
01:02:03,462 --> 01:02:04,553
Nobody wants to see us go at it,
1612
01:02:04,780 --> 01:02:06,446
So they're not gonna push that.
1613
01:02:06,465 --> 01:02:10,058
So you know, you have to
take things in your own hands.
1614
01:02:10,285 --> 01:02:11,968
- Hunter always wanted to be the guy.
1615
01:02:12,062 --> 01:02:13,211
Everyone should wanna
1616
01:02:13,305 --> 01:02:15,713
Have that desire.
1617
01:02:15,733 --> 01:02:17,715
Anybody that gets in this business that doesn't
1618
01:02:17,735 --> 01:02:19,809
Wanna be the top dog,
1619
01:02:19,962 --> 01:02:22,738
I don't know
why you're in the business.
1620
01:02:22,889 --> 01:02:26,299
- Ladies and gentlemen,
are you ready?
1621
01:02:26,392 --> 01:02:27,576
[cheering]
1622
01:02:27,727 --> 01:02:30,987
If you look at that sweep
through the attitude era,
1623
01:02:31,139 --> 01:02:32,730
Austin is white hot.
1624
01:02:32,824 --> 01:02:34,232
- Gimme a "hell yeah."
1625
01:02:34,251 --> 01:02:35,900
All: Hell yeah!
1626
01:02:35,994 --> 01:02:39,070
- Rock, they put him in the nation of domination.
1627
01:02:39,089 --> 01:02:41,089
I take over dx.
1628
01:02:41,241 --> 01:02:44,334
As a group, we're sort
of opposed to each other.
1629
01:02:44,486 --> 01:02:46,744
We're fighting over
the intercontinental title.
1630
01:02:46,838 --> 01:02:48,263
Rock branches out of the nation.
1631
01:02:48,414 --> 01:02:52,175
Dx continues to move on, but
I'm watching this environment
1632
01:02:52,269 --> 01:02:55,328
And saying to myself, we need a darth vader here.
1633
01:02:55,421 --> 01:02:57,755
So I go to vince and pitch
1634
01:02:57,849 --> 01:02:59,015
Dx needs to come to an end.
1635
01:02:59,109 --> 01:03:03,670
That did not sit well with the rest of dx.
1636
01:03:03,763 --> 01:03:06,172
- Do we all want it to happen?
No.
1637
01:03:06,191 --> 01:03:07,783
Because we're all perfectly happy
1638
01:03:08,010 --> 01:03:09,284
In the positions that we're at.
1639
01:03:09,435 --> 01:03:11,102
[together]
dx!
1640
01:03:11,196 --> 01:03:12,846
- We're getting
six-figure quarterly
1641
01:03:12,864 --> 01:03:14,605
Merchandising checks, man.
1642
01:03:14,625 --> 01:03:16,941
We were all like, "hey, man, we don't wanna quit this.
1643
01:03:17,035 --> 01:03:20,462
Go turn heel or whatever,
but don't affect our money."
1644
01:03:20,613 --> 01:03:23,039
[crowd cheering]
- here comes triple h!
1645
01:03:23,191 --> 01:03:24,966
- Wait a minute! Wait a minute!
1646
01:03:25,193 --> 01:03:26,968
No! No! - What?
1647
01:03:27,195 --> 01:03:31,548
- Triple h has turned his back on x-pac!
1648
01:03:31,642 --> 01:03:34,792
- Ambition in this business
is a dangerous thing.
1649
01:03:34,886 --> 01:03:37,145
- Triple h laid out x-pac!
1650
01:03:37,372 --> 01:03:39,222
- I've turned my back on my friends.
1651
01:03:39,374 --> 01:03:39,889
My friends have turned
their backs on me.
1652
01:03:39,983 --> 01:03:42,709
- Pedigree!
1653
01:03:42,727 --> 01:03:44,894
- We all do it because
we all have one goal in mind,
1654
01:03:45,047 --> 01:03:47,380
And that's to be the best
in this business.
1655
01:03:47,473 --> 01:03:48,731
[cheering]
1656
01:03:48,884 --> 01:03:52,569
- Dx as we know it is dead.
1657
01:03:52,721 --> 01:03:55,813
And triple h now would go on to become
1658
01:03:55,907 --> 01:03:56,498
Honestly, one of the best
1659
01:03:56,649 --> 01:03:58,892
Bad guys of all time.
1660
01:03:58,985 --> 01:04:01,061
- I don't need
anybody else, jr.
1661
01:04:01,079 --> 01:04:02,504
This is about me.
1662
01:04:02,655 --> 01:04:04,414
- The villain's sort of
the straws that stirs
1663
01:04:04,566 --> 01:04:05,899
The drink in pro wrestling.
1664
01:04:05,917 --> 01:04:07,567
They're the number one
thing you gotta have.
1665
01:04:07,586 --> 01:04:10,661
- Four years ago,
madison square garden,
1666
01:04:10,681 --> 01:04:12,848
I walked to the ring
to say goodbye to my friends,
1667
01:04:13,075 --> 01:04:15,425
Kevin nash, scott hall,
shawn michaels.
1668
01:04:15,519 --> 01:04:17,352
Who got punished for that, jr?
1669
01:04:17,579 --> 01:04:18,353
Me.
1670
01:04:18,504 --> 01:04:19,855
- You can smoke and mirror
1671
01:04:20,082 --> 01:04:23,600
A top babyface, top hero,
to some degree.
1672
01:04:23,752 --> 01:04:26,769
But the villains, boy, people gotta feel that villain.
1673
01:04:26,922 --> 01:04:29,180
- It's about me
getting what I deserve,
1674
01:04:29,274 --> 01:04:32,258
And that is becoming
the wwe champion.
1675
01:04:32,352 --> 01:04:33,869
You guys talk about being
students of the game.
1676
01:04:34,020 --> 01:04:38,281
I am the [bleep] game, jr.
1677
01:04:38,433 --> 01:04:39,357
- We needed a great heel.
1678
01:04:39,376 --> 01:04:42,193
We needed a great
heat-getting heel.
1679
01:04:42,287 --> 01:04:44,695
Hunter was looking forward to it.
1680
01:04:44,715 --> 01:04:46,197
He relished that opportunity.
1681
01:04:46,216 --> 01:04:47,774
[crowd cheering]
1682
01:04:47,792 --> 01:04:49,275
- There's a moment when you win that title
1683
01:04:49,294 --> 01:04:50,051
For the first time
where it's all real.
1684
01:04:50,203 --> 01:04:52,946
- Triple h! Triple h!
1685
01:04:52,964 --> 01:04:53,630
- If you're a kid
dreaming about football,
1686
01:04:53,782 --> 01:04:55,632
You win the super bowl.
1687
01:04:55,784 --> 01:04:57,375
If you're a kid dreaming about being in the wwe,
1688
01:04:57,394 --> 01:05:00,228
You're winning the wwe title.
1689
01:05:00,455 --> 01:05:01,304
It means something.
It means that the company
1690
01:05:01,456 --> 01:05:04,307
Is putting its faith
behind you.
1691
01:05:04,459 --> 01:05:05,549
- It was inevitable.
1692
01:05:05,644 --> 01:05:06,626
Hunter's got the brightest future
1693
01:05:06,645 --> 01:05:07,977
Of anybody in the group.
1694
01:05:08,130 --> 01:05:09,629
He's the guy
you wanna invest in.
1695
01:05:09,648 --> 01:05:11,631
♪ ♪
1696
01:05:11,650 --> 01:05:14,484
- Once you have triple h
kind of emerge
1697
01:05:14,578 --> 01:05:16,302
Into the championship picture,
1698
01:05:16,321 --> 01:05:17,913
Without that leadership,
1699
01:05:18,140 --> 01:05:21,565
I don't think that
you have a dx.
1700
01:05:21,585 --> 01:05:23,585
It just kinda splintered off.
1701
01:05:23,812 --> 01:05:27,330
- It's really wild to think about how long
1702
01:05:27,424 --> 01:05:32,743
Or short the real run of dx
at the top was.
1703
01:05:32,763 --> 01:05:33,762
The whole thing was
1704
01:05:33,913 --> 01:05:36,431
Essentially less than two years.
1705
01:05:36,658 --> 01:05:38,749
You talk about a meteoric rise.
1706
01:05:38,843 --> 01:05:40,435
I mean, dx--
[snaps fingers]
1707
01:05:40,662 --> 01:05:43,179
Shows up, instantly has
their presence felt,
1708
01:05:43,331 --> 01:05:44,664
Affects pop culture,
1709
01:05:44,683 --> 01:05:46,257
Has the whole world crotch chopping,
1710
01:05:46,276 --> 01:05:48,668
And by the time you blink-- you went from being
1711
01:05:48,761 --> 01:05:50,003
14 to 16 years old--
it's over.
1712
01:05:50,021 --> 01:05:53,448
♪ ♪
1713
01:05:53,675 --> 01:05:55,842
- I think everyone wants to spread their wings
1714
01:05:55,860 --> 01:05:59,270
And show that they're
capable of more.
1715
01:05:59,364 --> 01:06:01,772
- Please welcome
the one and only, chyna.
1716
01:06:01,792 --> 01:06:03,032
- Chyna comes out of the dx situation
1717
01:06:03,185 --> 01:06:05,868
And is a bona fide star.
1718
01:06:06,021 --> 01:06:07,445
- It's like an onion.
You peel that back,
1719
01:06:07,539 --> 01:06:08,705
It makes a grown man cry.
1720
01:06:08,857 --> 01:06:09,372
- She was the most
ground-breaking thing
1721
01:06:09,466 --> 01:06:11,633
They had at that time.
1722
01:06:11,784 --> 01:06:13,134
She could be in the ring wrestling one minute
1723
01:06:13,361 --> 01:06:15,862
And then do the cover of "playboy" the next.
1724
01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:17,864
♪ ♪
1725
01:06:17,882 --> 01:06:19,808
- I have fought the odds.
1726
01:06:20,035 --> 01:06:22,310
And for that, I believe
that I'm a pioneer.
1727
01:06:22,462 --> 01:06:24,220
[crowd cheering] and I believe
1728
01:06:24,372 --> 01:06:25,963
That that's why my guys named me
1729
01:06:25,983 --> 01:06:26,314
The ninth wonder of the world.
1730
01:06:26,466 --> 01:06:28,984
♪ ♪
1731
01:06:29,211 --> 01:06:30,318
- I mean, she was
larger than life,
1732
01:06:30,470 --> 01:06:31,711
In, like, a superhero sort of way.
1733
01:06:31,804 --> 01:06:34,138
Her impact to a generation of wrestling fans,
1734
01:06:34,232 --> 01:06:36,974
Especially female wrestling fans,
1735
01:06:37,068 --> 01:06:38,401
Is just impossible to describe.
1736
01:06:38,553 --> 01:06:40,053
[bell dings]
1737
01:06:40,071 --> 01:06:42,071
- The intercontinental title on the line.
1738
01:06:42,165 --> 01:06:46,576
- Jeff jarrett wrestles chyna
in this housekeeping match.
1739
01:06:46,728 --> 01:06:49,504
- Will she be the first woman to wear intercontinental gold?
1740
01:06:49,655 --> 01:06:52,490
- All of these antiquated items were meant
1741
01:06:52,584 --> 01:06:55,510
To indicate that a woman
should remain in the household
1742
01:06:55,661 --> 01:06:57,495
And cleaning,
and chyna was obviously
1743
01:06:57,514 --> 01:06:58,905
The antithesis of all of that.
1744
01:06:58,998 --> 01:07:03,926
And I'm watching it with my mom and my grandmother,
1745
01:07:04,021 --> 01:07:06,579
Three generations of women,
and it really
1746
01:07:06,598 --> 01:07:08,690
Did resonate with us.
All: Two, three!
1747
01:07:08,917 --> 01:07:11,675
[bell dings]
- chyna has made history!
1748
01:07:11,770 --> 01:07:14,087
Chyna, the first woman to become
1749
01:07:14,105 --> 01:07:17,774
The intercontinental champion!
1750
01:07:17,926 --> 01:07:20,093
- Joanie thought, based on what she had done
1751
01:07:20,111 --> 01:07:22,595
For the company, that she wanted to be paid
1752
01:07:22,614 --> 01:07:25,765
On a par with the top
male superstars.
1753
01:07:25,858 --> 01:07:28,101
- I remember one day she came to my office
1754
01:07:28,194 --> 01:07:30,119
And said, "I know I deserve to make as much as stone cold."
1755
01:07:30,272 --> 01:07:33,623
"excuse me?"
1756
01:07:33,775 --> 01:07:35,699
She wanted to be the highest-paid talent
1757
01:07:35,794 --> 01:07:36,959
On the roster.
1758
01:07:37,112 --> 01:07:39,370
- She, I think, believed
that she was going
1759
01:07:39,464 --> 01:07:41,781
To be the biggest star
in hollywood,
1760
01:07:41,874 --> 01:07:43,725
And that she didn't need this place anymore,
1761
01:07:43,876 --> 01:07:45,802
So she demanded stuff that vince was like,
1762
01:07:45,954 --> 01:07:48,879
"I just can't even get close
to any of that."
1763
01:07:48,899 --> 01:07:50,640
- I get the fact that you gotta have confidence
1764
01:07:50,734 --> 01:07:54,627
In yourself in such
a crazy-ass business.
1765
01:07:54,720 --> 01:07:56,571
She was the first woman that I ever managed
1766
01:07:56,798 --> 01:07:58,464
In my close to 50 years of the business
1767
01:07:58,558 --> 01:08:00,633
To make a million a year.
1768
01:08:00,652 --> 01:08:03,469
But I could not meet
her contractual demands--
1769
01:08:03,488 --> 01:08:04,245
And they were demands--
1770
01:08:04,397 --> 01:08:06,897
To prevent her from leaving.
1771
01:08:06,917 --> 01:08:09,667
[crowd cheering]
1772
01:08:12,330 --> 01:08:16,407
- The attitude era was by far
the craziest time in my life.
1773
01:08:16,426 --> 01:08:19,168
[engine rumbling]
1774
01:08:19,321 --> 01:08:20,428
When you're in
the midst of it, it's like
1775
01:08:20,580 --> 01:08:24,507
You're in a drug-addled,
violent tornado
1776
01:08:24,659 --> 01:08:25,749
That's just carrying you along.
1777
01:08:25,769 --> 01:08:28,511
[pensive music]
1778
01:08:28,663 --> 01:08:31,088
When I got off the drugs, I started looking inward.
1779
01:08:31,108 --> 01:08:34,109
I started working on myself
and trying to figure out
1780
01:08:34,260 --> 01:08:36,927
Why I was the way I was.
1781
01:08:36,947 --> 01:08:38,262
It was the first time
I realized,
1782
01:08:38,281 --> 01:08:39,355
Like, I have a choice in this.
1783
01:08:39,507 --> 01:08:40,690
♪ ♪
1784
01:08:40,842 --> 01:08:43,860
I learned to control me and dig down deep
1785
01:08:44,012 --> 01:08:47,530
And find serenity, a peace.
1786
01:08:47,624 --> 01:08:50,274
I can take a deep breath and walk around here
1787
01:08:50,293 --> 01:08:52,185
And not have a worry in the world.
1788
01:08:52,203 --> 01:08:54,036
It's what life's all about.
1789
01:08:54,189 --> 01:08:55,779
♪ ♪
1790
01:08:55,799 --> 01:09:00,042
- After triple h leaves dx,
dx breaks up.
1791
01:09:00,195 --> 01:09:01,861
Triple h's star just continues
to rise and rise and rise.
1792
01:09:01,880 --> 01:09:06,215
- Please welcome the one,
we hope the only, triple h.
1793
01:09:06,368 --> 01:09:09,369
- And the same is definitely not true for everybody else.
1794
01:09:09,387 --> 01:09:12,129
X-pac, well, he teamed up
with kane for a while,
1795
01:09:12,149 --> 01:09:13,297
And then he was in this group called the x-factor.
1796
01:09:13,391 --> 01:09:14,874
The trajectory was going down.
1797
01:09:14,893 --> 01:09:17,059
Road dogg got released.
1798
01:09:17,212 --> 01:09:18,820
Then chyna got released.
1799
01:09:19,047 --> 01:09:20,396
Billy gunn, you know,
they tried.
1800
01:09:20,548 --> 01:09:21,731
They gave him the king of the ring.
1801
01:09:21,883 --> 01:09:23,474
[bell dings]
- we've got a new
1802
01:09:23,493 --> 01:09:25,476
King of the ring, and he's billy gunn!
1803
01:09:25,570 --> 01:09:26,903
- Remember, he feuded with the
rock for, like, a hot second.
1804
01:09:27,055 --> 01:09:28,163
It really seemed like
1805
01:09:28,390 --> 01:09:29,647
They were gonna make something of him.
1806
01:09:29,666 --> 01:09:31,057
- An elbow, hook of the leg.
1807
01:09:31,150 --> 01:09:32,500
- Yeah! - For a crew that was
1808
01:09:32,652 --> 01:09:33,817
So, so popular together,
1809
01:09:33,837 --> 01:09:38,064
You know, it's sad to watch
the trajectory.
1810
01:09:38,082 --> 01:09:39,248
And eventually, triple h was just sort of
1811
01:09:39,401 --> 01:09:40,675
The last man standing.
1812
01:09:40,902 --> 01:09:46,572
- I get hurt in a match
with the dudleys.
1813
01:09:46,591 --> 01:09:48,925
I put bub on a table
and jump higher
1814
01:09:49,077 --> 01:09:51,577
Than I've ever jumped before
in my life.
1815
01:09:51,671 --> 01:09:53,913
- Look out! No! A famouser!
1816
01:09:53,932 --> 01:09:55,264
A famouser through the table!
1817
01:09:55,358 --> 01:09:56,691
- I caught the table,
and it slung me sideways,
1818
01:09:56,918 --> 01:10:00,586
And when it did,
my elbow hit and blew
1819
01:10:00,680 --> 01:10:03,439
My entire shoulder in half.
1820
01:10:03,533 --> 01:10:07,535
By the time '04 comes around,
on my birthday,
1821
01:10:07,687 --> 01:10:10,112
I get a phone call that says
I'm no longer needed.
1822
01:10:10,207 --> 01:10:15,043
♪ ♪
1823
01:10:15,194 --> 01:10:17,620
- So I had been fired
for a couple of months now,
1824
01:10:17,714 --> 01:10:20,940
And then I heard wcw was
coming to panama city.
1825
01:10:20,959 --> 01:10:24,719
And I thought, "oh, well,
I'll just go down there,
1826
01:10:24,870 --> 01:10:27,463
See some old friends, and
maybe put my name in the hat,"
1827
01:10:27,557 --> 01:10:30,892
You know? - Shane mcmahon is on "nitro."
1828
01:10:31,043 --> 01:10:33,786
- What in the hell is he doing?
1829
01:10:33,805 --> 01:10:36,622
- It's the night that
shane mcmahon shows up,
1830
01:10:36,641 --> 01:10:39,234
And they buy wcw.
1831
01:10:39,385 --> 01:10:43,887
- That's right. I own wcw.
1832
01:10:43,907 --> 01:10:46,148
- There went my plans.
1833
01:10:46,243 --> 01:10:47,800
And so I got drunk
and got in a fight at a bar
1834
01:10:47,893 --> 01:10:49,652
And went to jail
in panama city.
1835
01:10:49,746 --> 01:10:51,895
♪ ♪
1836
01:10:51,915 --> 01:10:54,640
- I had an incident at the airport.
1837
01:10:54,734 --> 01:10:56,567
I was taking muscle relaxers.
1838
01:10:56,586 --> 01:10:59,570
They hit me--they hit me hard.
1839
01:10:59,589 --> 01:11:00,904
I get home, and I get a call
from jr, and he's like,
1840
01:11:00,999 --> 01:11:04,592
"yeah, vince is hot.
He wants you to go to rehab."
1841
01:11:04,819 --> 01:11:08,096
I'm like, "no.
I didn't fail a drug test.
1842
01:11:08,247 --> 01:11:09,822
I didn't--like, I was fully
transparent with you guys."
1843
01:11:09,841 --> 01:11:13,159
I said, "so, no.
I think I quit."
1844
01:11:13,177 --> 01:11:13,676
♪ ♪
1845
01:11:13,770 --> 01:11:16,938
And that was it.
1846
01:11:17,089 --> 01:11:18,106
Whew. Yeah.
1847
01:11:18,333 --> 01:11:21,684
The start of over a decade
of darkness, so--
1848
01:11:21,836 --> 01:11:24,946
♪ ♪
1849
01:11:25,097 --> 01:11:28,599
- We all have our moments
of when things went bad.
1850
01:11:28,693 --> 01:11:33,454
Mine, more or less, went bad
after I'd left the company.
1851
01:11:33,681 --> 01:11:35,456
Um...
1852
01:11:35,608 --> 01:11:36,699
[sighs]
um...
1853
01:11:36,793 --> 01:11:40,186
♪ ♪
1854
01:11:40,204 --> 01:11:43,189
We all have our demons.
1855
01:11:43,207 --> 01:11:46,208
♪ ♪
1856
01:11:46,361 --> 01:11:48,711
But luckily for me,
I'd done enough stuff
1857
01:11:48,863 --> 01:11:49,804
And had enough value in my name
1858
01:11:50,031 --> 01:11:53,199
That I could
go do the indie stuff,
1859
01:11:53,217 --> 01:11:55,868
And then I went
to another company for a while,
1860
01:11:55,887 --> 01:11:59,647
And then things just went
screamin' downhill.
1861
01:11:59,799 --> 01:12:02,058
- Billy and I joined forces in tna
1862
01:12:02,210 --> 01:12:04,652
To be a tag team
called the voodoo kin mafia,
1863
01:12:04,804 --> 01:12:06,712
Which stands for vkm.
1864
01:12:06,806 --> 01:12:07,655
Crowd: [chanting]
screw you, vince!
1865
01:12:07,807 --> 01:12:10,641
Screw you, vince!
Screw you, vince!
1866
01:12:10,735 --> 01:12:12,810
- I'm completely off the rails,
1867
01:12:12,829 --> 01:12:15,663
Me and brian, and we just
talk crap about everybody,
1868
01:12:15,815 --> 01:12:17,073
Try to bury everybody.
1869
01:12:17,225 --> 01:12:18,816
- People would come up
to me and go, like,
1870
01:12:18,835 --> 01:12:20,317
"oh, did you see the interview
brian and billy did?
1871
01:12:20,337 --> 01:12:21,894
They buried you," or whatever.
1872
01:12:21,913 --> 01:12:23,579
And I'm like, dude,
the guys, they're on drugs.
1873
01:12:23,673 --> 01:12:25,898
- Every week, you are chopping
at the very foundation
1874
01:12:25,991 --> 01:12:29,402
Of the dynasty of the legacy
1875
01:12:29,420 --> 01:12:32,180
That we were damn sure
a major part of.
1876
01:12:32,407 --> 01:12:35,091
- It was just
a complete disaster.
1877
01:12:35,243 --> 01:12:38,744
- No angles. No spots.
No finish.
1878
01:12:38,838 --> 01:12:41,189
Just men versus
you two [bleep].
1879
01:12:41,340 --> 01:12:43,173
[cheering]
1880
01:12:43,267 --> 01:12:45,267
- [clicking tongue]
1881
01:12:45,420 --> 01:12:48,029
♪ ♪
1882
01:12:48,180 --> 01:12:50,531
Yeah, I just found myself
in a really bad spot.
1883
01:12:50,683 --> 01:12:53,034
Like, on my floor,
1884
01:12:53,185 --> 01:12:56,278
My house wrecked,
everybody gone.
1885
01:12:56,431 --> 01:12:57,446
Literally crashed two cars.
1886
01:12:57,540 --> 01:13:00,023
And I'm not trying
to make this sound bad.
1887
01:13:00,043 --> 01:13:01,358
I'm just saying what happens.
1888
01:13:01,378 --> 01:13:03,102
My wife and everybody
was over it.
1889
01:13:03,121 --> 01:13:04,604
They didn't want
that phone call.
1890
01:13:04,622 --> 01:13:05,880
I don't want that phone call
sitting there going,
1891
01:13:06,107 --> 01:13:09,032
"your husband died because
he took a bunch of stuff
1892
01:13:09,052 --> 01:13:09,942
And ran into something."
1893
01:13:10,035 --> 01:13:12,294
- Look, I was 42 years old.
1894
01:13:12,389 --> 01:13:14,447
I'm a father of three.
1895
01:13:14,465 --> 01:13:17,783
I'm doing these indie shows
1896
01:13:17,802 --> 01:13:19,894
Where I'm getting $300 a night.
1897
01:13:20,121 --> 01:13:23,305
And it didn't matter,
because if I could
1898
01:13:23,400 --> 01:13:24,899
Get some drugs while
I was there, too, awesome.
1899
01:13:25,050 --> 01:13:27,309
But it was--
it just gotten where
1900
01:13:27,462 --> 01:13:30,463
My life was miserable, where--
1901
01:13:30,556 --> 01:13:31,906
Literally
contemplating suicide.
1902
01:13:32,057 --> 01:13:34,742
Me and my brother
were driving back
1903
01:13:34,894 --> 01:13:36,244
From alabama,
from a little town,
1904
01:13:36,395 --> 01:13:37,895
And I was screwed up.
1905
01:13:37,914 --> 01:13:41,249
And, like, I was crying,
and I was--and he was like,
1906
01:13:41,476 --> 01:13:43,659
"you know, you don't
have to live like this."
1907
01:13:43,811 --> 01:13:46,236
- I got caught up. I ended up doing meth.
1908
01:13:46,330 --> 01:13:49,165
And, like, it might not
kill you like--like, you know,
1909
01:13:49,317 --> 01:13:50,666
Shooting heroin or something,
1910
01:13:50,818 --> 01:13:54,837
But it robs you of your soul,
you're just--
1911
01:13:54,931 --> 01:13:57,990
Just about--you're just
like a walking zombie, man.
1912
01:13:58,009 --> 01:14:00,435
- Kid and I wouldn't talk
for long periods of time.
1913
01:14:00,586 --> 01:14:02,178
Every now and then,
we'd touch base,
1914
01:14:02,330 --> 01:14:03,329
And it was usually miserable.
1915
01:14:03,422 --> 01:14:04,939
- Eventually, I ended up
down in mexico,
1916
01:14:05,090 --> 01:14:08,443
And I hung myself.
1917
01:14:08,670 --> 01:14:10,352
I was--I was in a coma
for three days
1918
01:14:10,447 --> 01:14:11,003
There in mexico city.
1919
01:14:11,022 --> 01:14:14,674
♪ ♪
1920
01:14:14,692 --> 01:14:15,766
- The one thing I've learned in the process
1921
01:14:15,785 --> 01:14:16,451
Is you can't help somebody until
1922
01:14:16,602 --> 01:14:18,694
They wanna help themself.
1923
01:14:18,846 --> 01:14:22,790
Like, there's just no--
you just can't.
1924
01:14:22,942 --> 01:14:24,016
As much as you try, as much
as it breaks your heart,
1925
01:14:24,035 --> 01:14:26,519
You can't make it happen.
1926
01:14:26,537 --> 01:14:28,704
- It's like, we knew.
Like, kevin nash was--
1927
01:14:28,798 --> 01:14:31,373
He flew down there
to pick me up and brought me
1928
01:14:31,526 --> 01:14:33,876
To me third and final rehab.
1929
01:14:34,028 --> 01:14:34,969
I went from mexico to orlando
1930
01:14:35,196 --> 01:14:37,880
And never went back
to mexico again.
1931
01:14:38,032 --> 01:14:40,457
I left all my [bleep]
in mexico.
1932
01:14:40,551 --> 01:14:43,719
And just never came back.
1933
01:14:43,871 --> 01:14:45,480
♪ ♪
1934
01:14:45,707 --> 01:14:46,964
- The only person that could fix
1935
01:14:46,983 --> 01:14:49,299
What was going on with me was me.
1936
01:14:49,319 --> 01:14:51,819
You do something about it or you die.
1937
01:14:51,971 --> 01:14:56,157
Like, the later part
of 2011, 2012,
1938
01:14:56,308 --> 01:14:58,567
I go to rehab and clean up
1939
01:14:58,720 --> 01:15:00,219
And get everything straight
in my life,
1940
01:15:00,312 --> 01:15:01,829
And then it took some work.
1941
01:15:01,981 --> 01:15:02,997
And then my wife came back, my kids came back,
1942
01:15:03,224 --> 01:15:06,834
My dogs came back,
my job came back.
1943
01:15:06,986 --> 01:15:08,244
Everything came back.
1944
01:15:08,396 --> 01:15:09,670
- I got clean and sober.
1945
01:15:09,897 --> 01:15:11,655
I had to go back and make some amends.
1946
01:15:11,674 --> 01:15:13,991
I had to go back
and right some wrongs,
1947
01:15:14,085 --> 01:15:17,678
Or try to, anyway, and humbly
ask them to forgive me.
1948
01:15:17,905 --> 01:15:20,330
Hunter went to vince
three different times,
1949
01:15:20,350 --> 01:15:21,257
And vince said no twice.
1950
01:15:21,351 --> 01:15:24,519
And he literally,
the third time,
1951
01:15:24,746 --> 01:15:27,355
Said, "he's a drug addict,
hunter.
1952
01:15:27,506 --> 01:15:29,098
When he screws up,
it's your ass."
1953
01:15:29,250 --> 01:15:31,751
That's what he told hunter.
1954
01:15:31,769 --> 01:15:33,677
And so hunter gave me
an opportunity
1955
01:15:33,696 --> 01:15:35,604
After I'd been sober about a year,
1956
01:15:35,757 --> 01:15:36,422
And I became lead writer of "smackdown!"
1957
01:15:36,440 --> 01:15:38,941
For three or four years.
1958
01:15:39,093 --> 01:15:41,351
Hunter still believed in me,
and for that,
1959
01:15:41,371 --> 01:15:43,112
I'm forever grateful.
1960
01:15:43,264 --> 01:15:46,123
♪ ♪
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