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- Put the camera on my man.
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Put the camera on luger!
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- You recognize lex luger, the total package,
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As the greatest wrestling
phenomenon to ever come along.
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♪ ♪
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- This guy looks like
a million dollars.
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I mean, really one of
the top five physiques.
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- Yeah, look at this.
[cheering]
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- Yeah, he was full of himself,
and he had every right to be.
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- I've won every major title,
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And I've looked better than everyone else
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Doing it every day of my life!
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- He came off as
arrogant sometimes.
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Announcer: The most egotistical,
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Narcissistic man this sport has ever created.
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- Lex didn't like being around people.
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- Can I have it for my brother?
- [chuckles]
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- We shouldn't be getting
this stuff on camera.
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- I don't know
if this is the guy.
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- He built his entire career on his presence,
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And his athletic look...
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- Come on!
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[cheering]
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♪ ♪
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- It ain't easy
being lex luger.
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[laughs]
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- And he went through hell.
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Self-imposed hell.
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[eerie music]
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- Lawrence pfohl, better known as lex luger,
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Accused of possessing and selling drugs.
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♪ ♪
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- I was really wasn't
thinking of others,
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I was thinking more
of just myself.
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Me, myself, and I.
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- 911. - I'm scared to death.
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- Depths I was in with drugs and alcohol,
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To be sitting here in front of a camera,
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Talking to you is just an absolute...
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Miracle of god.
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[tense music]
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♪ ♪
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I grew up in buffalo, new york.
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Blue collar town.
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Immigrant town.
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Its nickname is the city
of good neighbors.
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♪ ♪
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People there are very genuine, authentic.
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I just loved it.
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♪ ♪
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My family was musically orientated--
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Academically and musically orientated.
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But I just loved sports.
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When I got to high school age,
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I kinda zeroed in on basketball.
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I started lifting weights.
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My whole family's like,
what happened to larry?
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The way my body developed,
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That probably if I had a future
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Beyond high school in a sport,
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It was definitely gonna be football.
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♪ ♪
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My dad didn't really see my
vision for where
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I was gonna go in sports,
potentially.
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So he thought it was
more of a wasted effort
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'cause he was
a virtuoso pianist.
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He would not sign my permission slip
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To play football.
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My freshman year
in high school
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Was when I started
playing football,
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And I forged his name.
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He didn't even know I was playing football at the time.
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- He saw himself as a running back.
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He was tall and lean.
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♪ ♪
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He had great speed, good size.
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So I said to him, you know, larry
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You really could be a much
better help with us
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Playing lineman.
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And he goes, "no, no."
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He says, "I'm a running back.
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I said I'll give you a deal.
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I said you could be a running back until you fumble.
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Well, he fumbled
the first practice.
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♪ ♪
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So, I sent him to the line coach.
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- Jim burt, who had a couple of super bowl rings
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In his career, and craig wolfley,
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Who played 13 years for the steelers,
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Were teammates of mine.
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Wolfley, burt, and myself were able to train
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With a world champion powerlifter.
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His name was don reinhoudt.
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- The world's strongest man,
don reinhoudt.
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- Larry was a powerhouse.
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♪ ♪
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He was built like a you-know-what.
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Just a phenomenal physique, and a true athlete.
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- [laughs] I was kinda
awestruck.
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He came across as a bit arrogant,
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And I guess that's not even surprising.
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We're talking about
a high school athlete
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Who had this kind of an amazing body,
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Was a fantastic athlete.
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- I always had high expectations for myself.
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People always said
I never lacked confidence
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That's for sure.
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♪ ♪
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- He kinda had that swagger
about him, you know?
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That was his confidence in himself.
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- He was an enigma.
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He was relatively quiet, very hardworking.
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But he also was more me than we.
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I believe there's no "I"
in the word team,
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And he sometimes was the I.
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- Set, go!
[all grunting]
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- Feet, feet,
feet, feet, hands!
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[blows whistle]
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♪ ♪
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- Went to penn state my freshman year,
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'cause it was nearby.
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I met my ex-wife, peggy, freshman year in study hall.
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- She was, as larry, very
disciplined into the nutrition
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Part of going to the gym,
and was a very fine athlete.
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She used to run track at penn state.
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- But, after my freshman year
and spending the winter
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In state college,
after growing up buffalo,
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I transferred to miami after my freshman year
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To sunshine u, we called it back then.
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♪ ♪
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- He sat the bench as a freshman.
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Said, "either play me or cut me."
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So, of course, paterno cut him.
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♪ ♪
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- Larry pfohl was a member of that penn state team.
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Now he's a miami hurricane player.
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The offensive lineman transferred to miami
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This summer and is redshirting this season.
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He won't be able to play Saturday,
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But he's provided the coaching staff
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And squad members some insights about penn state.
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- I played offensive lineman, and they've asked me
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Like how they run
some of their plays,
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Which I pretty much know.
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- We actually played against
each other in college--
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He at the university of miami,
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Myself at florida state university.
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He had good mobility.
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He had the size.
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He had the smarts,
he had the strength.
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You really had to be on your a-game
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When you were playing against him.
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- I see a confidence,
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I see like in practice,
the atmosphere.
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And the more you win, the more confidence you get.
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- I had a great time while I was there.
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Went to the beach and got
in a couple of fights.
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We did some--a little damage to our on-campus apartment
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When a party got kinda carried away.
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Only lasted about a year and a half there.
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I got suspended. I dropped out of school.
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I wasn't old enough to play in the nfl at the time.
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I ended up signing with
a canadian football.
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- 66, larry pfohl.
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They say he may be the strongest man in the league.
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- He was a young man, and so there was
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A lot of growing
and experience
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That he had to gain.
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Having to mature, having to learn
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To become more coachable.
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- David greene fumbles,
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But it's recovered by montreal's larry pfohl.
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- I ended up playing there almost three seasons.
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- When he was in the midst
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Of a contract negotiation,
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He asked if I would act as his agent.
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He said, "tom, I know what I need.
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"I know what I want.
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I just need somebody
who I can trust."
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♪ ♪
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He then aged up to become eligible for the nfl,
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Which was kind of the dream.
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- Ended up coming down and signing with green bay.
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Offensive line, just
not the type of position
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Where you're looking
for headlines.
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It's personal satisfaction
and knowing
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That your teammates know
whether you're
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Doing the job or not.
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And there is an opportunity here,
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And it always comes down to how well you play.
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- Well, when they saw him, they couldn't believe it.
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I mean, here's a guy that's,
I don't know,
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Roughly 6'4", 272 pounds,
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With a 4.6 40 at that size.
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A 32-inch vertical jump.
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I mean, he had stats that they couldn't believe.
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- His physical credentials made the coaching staff
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Sit up and take notice,
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But pfohl spent the season on the injured reserve list
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With a groin injury.
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- They were pretty high on me,
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But I was injury prone when I was there,
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Which that stuff
happens sometimes.
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- Set!
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- And I don't know
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If my attitude was the best.
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- He let his ego get in his way.
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He wasn't ready
for the discipline
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That is required to be
successful at that level.
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- I was definitely looking to make another move.
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I actually went to bart starr's office
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And asked him
if I could be released.
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To be honest with you, I was really looking
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To leave green bay and go to the usfl,
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'cause that was down in tampa.
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They had bandit ball-- coach steve spurrier,
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The ol' ball coach.
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And I ended up buying a house down there
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And got the opportunity to play down there.
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I never was quite
happy where I was at.
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I always thought there
had to be something more.
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So that was even
kinda manifesting itself
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And starting back then.
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♪ ♪
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Well, the usfl was folding.
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And in memphis,
when I played football there
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For the memphis showboats,
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That was a big wrestling town--
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Jerry "the king" lawler.
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- The king snaps his strap,
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And everybody in memphis, tennessee
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Knows what that means.
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- Everywhere I went around that town,
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Because of my physique,
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Everybody was like,
"are you a pro wrestler?"
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And I'm like, man,
what is it
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With this town,
everywhere I go?
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I'm a football player.
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And some of the guys said, you should do that.
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Football imparted a good financial head start for me,
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But I was looking for other opportunities.
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The competitive aspects
of professional wrestling
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Were very appealing to me,
the one-on-one aspect.
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And being sort of the free
spirit personality that I was,
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Wrestling was very attractive
in that sense, also.
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I looked into it
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In the offseason.
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Like I said, I played for tampa and bought a home there.
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I was married at that point to my wife peggy.
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And I ended up walking into
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Championship wrestling in florida.
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And I walked into the office, and they told me
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To go talk to hiro matsuda.
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He came from japan, a judo champion,
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And he made it in pro wrestling.
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And it did well for his family.
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He had a real respect for the wrestling business,
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And he taught that to me.
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He was really dialed in on doing flexibility training
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And a lot of the other things outside
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Of just going to the gym.
262
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- When you are trained by matsuda,
263
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You are trained thoroughly.
264
00:10:03,069 --> 00:10:04,536
He trains these people until they can't walk.
265
00:10:04,604 --> 00:10:07,005
They can't stand up.
266
00:10:07,207 --> 00:10:08,472
- Turned the air conditioning off until there's
267
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A puddle of sweat,
268
00:10:09,810 --> 00:10:11,409
And he did everything with you.
269
00:10:11,478 --> 00:10:12,543
It was brutal,
270
00:10:12,613 --> 00:10:15,880
And I absolutely loved it!
271
00:10:15,949 --> 00:10:17,548
- I watched him go through the routine
272
00:10:17,617 --> 00:10:20,484
With matsuda's workout.
273
00:10:20,553 --> 00:10:22,287
He was a can't miss guy.
274
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♪ ♪
275
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- I finished his requirements,
276
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As he called them,
to get the privilege
277
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Of getting in the ring.
278
00:10:29,295 --> 00:10:31,496
Well, within about a couple of
months, which was like almost
279
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Record time for him.
280
00:10:34,167 --> 00:10:36,167
And I never even looked into getting back in the nfl
281
00:10:36,235 --> 00:10:39,437
Or after usfl folded, because my pro wrestling career
282
00:10:39,639 --> 00:10:40,905
Began in the offseason--
283
00:10:40,974 --> 00:10:44,042
My training, and I ended up
making my debut.
284
00:10:44,110 --> 00:10:46,978
- This is championship wrestling from florida.
285
00:10:47,046 --> 00:10:48,980
- And for the next hour, I'll guarantee you
286
00:10:49,048 --> 00:10:50,315
We've got a lot of excitement upcoming.
287
00:10:50,383 --> 00:10:52,783
♪ ♪
288
00:10:52,852 --> 00:10:54,785
- Right before
my first time out on tv,
289
00:10:54,854 --> 00:10:56,855
I was sitting
in the wrestling office,
290
00:10:56,923 --> 00:10:57,722
Championship wrestling in florida.
291
00:10:57,924 --> 00:10:59,924
They go, well, what's your name?
292
00:10:59,992 --> 00:11:01,593
I go, "I don't have a wrestling name."
293
00:11:01,795 --> 00:11:02,994
They were thinking, oh my gosh.
294
00:11:03,063 --> 00:11:05,130
They were gonna send me out
to tv in, like, an hour.
295
00:11:05,198 --> 00:11:06,464
So they all look at each other,
"what do we call him?
296
00:11:06,533 --> 00:11:08,199
What do we call him?"
297
00:11:08,267 --> 00:11:12,003
I kind of like--like, raised
my hand, like, "I got a name."
298
00:11:12,205 --> 00:11:14,872
My favorite tv show--it
was number one on television
299
00:11:14,941 --> 00:11:17,742
Back then--was tom selleck
in "magnum pi."
300
00:11:17,944 --> 00:11:19,744
Everybody just called him magnum.
301
00:11:19,946 --> 00:11:21,679
Well, if he can be called magnum--
302
00:11:21,748 --> 00:11:23,014
I was trying to be creative.
303
00:11:23,083 --> 00:11:27,552
I should be called luger,
which is a german firearm.
304
00:11:27,621 --> 00:11:28,420
- Put the camera on my man.
305
00:11:28,622 --> 00:11:30,555
Put the camera on luger!
306
00:11:30,757 --> 00:11:32,757
My man, gordon, is here today.
307
00:11:32,826 --> 00:11:33,491
- They go, "you got a first name?"
308
00:11:33,560 --> 00:11:35,893
I go, "well, yeah. Lex."
309
00:11:35,962 --> 00:11:41,499
Lex luthor was a villain
in the comic books,
310
00:11:41,568 --> 00:11:43,501
So I said lex luger.
311
00:11:43,570 --> 00:11:46,104
- Here's lex luger.
312
00:11:46,173 --> 00:11:49,707
- I was excited about the opportunity in wrestling.
313
00:11:49,776 --> 00:11:50,775
Thought it might be a lot of fun,
314
00:11:50,844 --> 00:11:52,243
And it kinda worked out
pretty good.
315
00:11:52,312 --> 00:11:53,011
♪ ♪
316
00:11:57,117 --> 00:11:58,783
- Now we're going to see luger for his first time
317
00:11:58,851 --> 00:12:02,052
Here on championship wrestling.
318
00:12:02,122 --> 00:12:04,456
- Lex luger, I managed him in his very first match.
319
00:12:04,658 --> 00:12:07,258
He was horrible.
[laughs]
320
00:12:07,327 --> 00:12:07,992
Horrible.
321
00:12:12,064 --> 00:12:13,798
He was pretty difficult, because he was new,
322
00:12:13,867 --> 00:12:16,134
And he had his own mind about him.
323
00:12:16,203 --> 00:12:20,004
But I guess most guys were,
until they learned the trade.
324
00:12:21,074 --> 00:12:23,608
- My debut was my first time
I'd ever been
325
00:12:23,677 --> 00:12:25,009
To a live pro wrestling match.
326
00:12:26,747 --> 00:12:28,880
That's how little
I knew about it.
327
00:12:29,082 --> 00:12:31,749
- Bear hug by luger, and has his man up,
328
00:12:31,818 --> 00:12:35,086
And jams him into the turnbuckle.
329
00:12:35,154 --> 00:12:38,823
- I'm like, what? Holy smoke,
that's--that's larry.
330
00:12:38,892 --> 00:12:40,958
He's the one that kind of led me in
331
00:12:41,027 --> 00:12:43,694
To try to start a career
in professional wrestling,
332
00:12:43,763 --> 00:12:45,763
And I'm forever
grateful to him.
333
00:12:45,832 --> 00:12:47,899
But he came in and kinda changed
334
00:12:47,968 --> 00:12:49,901
The stereotype of what people perceived
335
00:12:49,969 --> 00:12:52,102
Professional wrestlers to look like.
336
00:12:52,172 --> 00:12:55,039
- Lex luger was one of the most
physically impressive
337
00:12:55,108 --> 00:12:58,042
Guys to get in the wrestling
business in the '80s.
338
00:12:58,111 --> 00:13:01,779
The problem was, he had never been a wrestling fan
339
00:13:01,848 --> 00:13:03,047
And didn't know anything about it.
340
00:13:03,250 --> 00:13:07,118
But he had amazing genetics and incredible physique.
341
00:13:07,187 --> 00:13:09,987
- Arnold schwarzenegger, who won every physique contest
342
00:13:10,056 --> 00:13:11,723
In the world, I don't think he has anything
343
00:13:11,925 --> 00:13:14,925
On the physique of the luger here.
344
00:13:14,994 --> 00:13:17,929
- So he was immediately pushed to the top.
345
00:13:17,998 --> 00:13:19,797
- Presently the southern heavyweight champion
346
00:13:19,866 --> 00:13:22,533
And the florida television champion,
347
00:13:22,602 --> 00:13:26,003
Here he is, lex luger.
348
00:13:26,072 --> 00:13:27,939
- To win the big title down there was, like,
349
00:13:28,007 --> 00:13:30,675
Pretty incredible, when I only had just
350
00:13:30,877 --> 00:13:32,877
A few matches under my belt.
351
00:13:32,946 --> 00:13:33,678
I didn't even
know enough about wrestling
352
00:13:33,746 --> 00:13:36,881
To appreciate the opportunity.
353
00:13:36,949 --> 00:13:38,883
I just started my wrestling career
354
00:13:38,952 --> 00:13:41,986
When we had brian on January 1 in 1986.
355
00:13:42,889 --> 00:13:45,022
Our family life at home was good,
356
00:13:45,091 --> 00:13:49,360
And my career took off like
a rocket ship down there.
357
00:13:49,562 --> 00:13:50,828
It was incredible.
358
00:13:50,897 --> 00:13:52,429
Whoever the top wrestlers
are in the area,
359
00:13:52,498 --> 00:13:53,298
I'll wrestle them.
360
00:13:53,366 --> 00:13:55,833
♪ ♪
361
00:13:55,902 --> 00:14:00,104
- Now you see the nwa champion, flair,
362
00:14:00,173 --> 00:14:03,775
Driven up to the front of the spartan sports center.
363
00:14:03,977 --> 00:14:05,776
- I'm the traveling world champion.
364
00:14:05,845 --> 00:14:07,712
And as a traveling
world champion,
365
00:14:07,780 --> 00:14:10,114
I worked different territories.
366
00:14:10,182 --> 00:14:14,252
One of the territories was the florida territory.
367
00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:18,723
I flew in, so they say we got a kid here who just started.
368
00:14:18,925 --> 00:14:21,058
We want you to wrestle
him for an hour.
369
00:14:21,127 --> 00:14:23,527
- Every pro in the country
has wanted to see this match
370
00:14:23,596 --> 00:14:24,729
Between me and ric flair.
371
00:14:24,931 --> 00:14:27,065
It's billed as
the present champion--
372
00:14:27,133 --> 00:14:29,800
He's a good champion--
versus the future champion.
373
00:14:29,869 --> 00:14:30,868
- First time I laid eyes on ric,
374
00:14:30,937 --> 00:14:32,737
He pulled up with that custom suit,
375
00:14:32,939 --> 00:14:34,939
And the sunglasses, and the gold,
376
00:14:35,008 --> 00:14:36,808
And the rolex watch with diamonds all over.
377
00:14:36,876 --> 00:14:39,477
I was real nervous, but, man,
378
00:14:39,545 --> 00:14:40,745
I was all in, man.
379
00:14:40,947 --> 00:14:42,614
I was--and I wanted
to be like him.
380
00:14:42,816 --> 00:14:44,749
He was styling and profiling.
381
00:14:44,951 --> 00:14:45,750
At that stage of my life, I was--
382
00:14:45,819 --> 00:14:47,685
Who wouldn't want to be like ric?
383
00:14:47,754 --> 00:14:49,820
- I met him.
I went, like, wow.
384
00:14:49,889 --> 00:14:53,824
You're a great, great,
young wrestler.
385
00:14:53,893 --> 00:14:55,760
This guy looks like
a million dollars.
386
00:14:55,829 --> 00:14:57,962
I mean, one of
the top five physiques
387
00:14:58,031 --> 00:15:00,899
In all the time I've been in the business.
388
00:15:01,101 --> 00:15:03,634
- 60 minutes you'll see these men compete.
389
00:15:03,703 --> 00:15:05,503
- I said, listen to the champ.
390
00:15:05,572 --> 00:15:07,972
That's all his job was.
391
00:15:08,041 --> 00:15:10,574
Flair was a veteran, and luger was a rookie.
392
00:15:10,644 --> 00:15:12,643
- Luger, bringing him up,
393
00:15:12,712 --> 00:15:13,911
Pressing him over his head.
394
00:15:13,980 --> 00:15:16,647
A full slam once again on the champion
395
00:15:16,716 --> 00:15:17,648
By the challenger lex luger.
396
00:15:17,717 --> 00:15:21,051
And lex luger can feel it!
397
00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:23,721
- And flair made him look like a million dollars.
398
00:15:23,923 --> 00:15:25,990
- He's begging not to be tossed.
399
00:15:27,861 --> 00:15:30,461
Tremendous strength of lex luger.
400
00:15:30,530 --> 00:15:33,664
- And I was so mad.
401
00:15:33,733 --> 00:15:36,067
It wasn't his fault at all.
402
00:15:36,135 --> 00:15:38,802
But an hour, when you're
green and can't do anything,
403
00:15:38,871 --> 00:15:40,805
And it was just--
it was a long night.
404
00:15:41,007 --> 00:15:42,807
- It is a draw, and ric flair retains
405
00:15:43,009 --> 00:15:45,009
The world heavyweight championship.
406
00:15:45,077 --> 00:15:46,543
- Learning it on the fly,
and learning how to work
407
00:15:46,612 --> 00:15:48,812
Are two different things.
408
00:15:48,881 --> 00:15:51,615
But next time I get to crockett,
409
00:15:51,684 --> 00:15:53,083
Which is my home territory,
410
00:15:53,152 --> 00:15:56,554
I told jimmy, I said, "you
gotta see this kid in tampa.
411
00:15:56,756 --> 00:15:58,756
Man, he's built phenomenal,
412
00:15:58,824 --> 00:16:01,993
Played football, legit athlete.
413
00:16:03,029 --> 00:16:07,565
- Back in the '80s,
jim crockett promotions
414
00:16:07,633 --> 00:16:11,101
Grew to a national power.
415
00:16:11,170 --> 00:16:16,907
We were bringing in young
talent that we thought had it.
416
00:16:16,977 --> 00:16:18,710
Matched it up with some of the old guys,
417
00:16:18,912 --> 00:16:21,179
So that young guys could learn.
418
00:16:21,247 --> 00:16:24,648
- Luger, he's got a great body.
He's got great potential.
419
00:16:24,718 --> 00:16:27,117
He just needs some experience.
420
00:16:27,186 --> 00:16:30,388
Jimmy said, well, he said,
the horsemen thing is red hot.
421
00:16:30,456 --> 00:16:31,456
- We are--woo!
422
00:16:31,524 --> 00:16:34,925
The four horsemen.
423
00:16:34,995 --> 00:16:37,862
We're talking about the cream of the crop.
424
00:16:37,931 --> 00:16:41,532
The most successful group of wrestlers
425
00:16:41,601 --> 00:16:43,534
Anywhere in the world.
426
00:16:43,603 --> 00:16:45,803
- The four horsemen--
427
00:16:45,872 --> 00:16:50,074
Flair, tully, arn, ole, and myself.
428
00:16:50,276 --> 00:16:52,744
If there was one person whose personality didn't seem
429
00:16:52,946 --> 00:16:54,746
To fit in with everybody else's,
430
00:16:54,948 --> 00:16:56,948
It probably would have been ole.
431
00:16:57,016 --> 00:16:58,883
If we were going to spin somebody off,
432
00:16:59,085 --> 00:17:00,684
That ole would have been the one to spin off.
433
00:17:00,754 --> 00:17:04,221
And we basically kicked him out.
434
00:17:04,290 --> 00:17:07,157
- We could break lex in and protect him by putting him in
435
00:17:07,226 --> 00:17:10,828
Among a group that's going to help speed up the process
436
00:17:10,897 --> 00:17:12,563
And take some of the
pressure off of him.
437
00:17:12,631 --> 00:17:14,965
And that's what happened.
438
00:17:15,035 --> 00:17:17,768
Mr. Lex luger is officially
the fourth horseman.
439
00:17:17,837 --> 00:17:19,904
Then, oh, here's
a fresh guy coming in.
440
00:17:19,973 --> 00:17:22,440
God, he does look good,
and he's a new face.
441
00:17:22,508 --> 00:17:23,708
[women screaming]
442
00:17:23,910 --> 00:17:28,245
- Because you see,
this, right here,
443
00:17:28,314 --> 00:17:32,783
Is the finest physical specimen
in professional sports today.
444
00:17:32,852 --> 00:17:34,785
- Take it off!
- And we could take,
445
00:17:34,854 --> 00:17:36,053
And we could help bring him along.
446
00:17:36,122 --> 00:17:39,723
And he's receptive, because he realizes that he's
447
00:17:39,792 --> 00:17:42,593
Stepping into an
enviable situation
448
00:17:42,662 --> 00:17:44,796
That other guys would die for.
449
00:17:44,998 --> 00:17:46,797
He was the right place
at the right time.
450
00:17:46,866 --> 00:17:47,865
- I knew about the four horsemen,
451
00:17:48,067 --> 00:17:51,736
But I didn't realize how
big a group they were.
452
00:17:51,938 --> 00:17:56,207
- We are what's going on
in this sport.
453
00:17:56,275 --> 00:18:00,010
- My associations with them,
and "the rub," we called it--
454
00:18:00,079 --> 00:18:02,546
I got off all those guys
that skyrocketed my career
455
00:18:02,615 --> 00:18:03,214
And really launched it.
456
00:18:03,416 --> 00:18:05,483
♪ ♪
457
00:18:05,685 --> 00:18:09,286
- Lex luger, my kinda man.
458
00:18:09,355 --> 00:18:11,355
He styles.
459
00:18:11,424 --> 00:18:12,623
He profiles.
460
00:18:12,692 --> 00:18:16,961
And most of all, he likes this.
461
00:18:17,163 --> 00:18:19,897
- Wanted to really pattern myself after natch.
462
00:18:19,966 --> 00:18:21,765
Asked him if I could
wear one of those robes.
463
00:18:21,834 --> 00:18:22,767
He let me go to his robe girl,
464
00:18:22,835 --> 00:18:24,768
And she made me a glittery robe.
465
00:18:24,838 --> 00:18:27,905
- There he is, the total package.
466
00:18:28,107 --> 00:18:29,774
- Oh, it was definitely
a different lifestyle,
467
00:18:29,976 --> 00:18:33,177
Flying in private jets
or first class.
468
00:18:33,245 --> 00:18:36,914
And stayed at nice hotels,
and went to the gym together.
469
00:18:36,982 --> 00:18:38,583
We hung out together, and socialized,
470
00:18:38,785 --> 00:18:40,051
And have beers, and have fun.
471
00:18:40,253 --> 00:18:42,720
- He had a rolex first week
he was a horseman, I think.
472
00:18:42,922 --> 00:18:44,855
And he went and
bought the mercedes.
473
00:18:44,924 --> 00:18:46,524
- I blame ric for my
profligate lifestyle
474
00:18:46,592 --> 00:18:48,726
When I was wrestling.
475
00:18:48,928 --> 00:18:50,728
But he was a great mentor to me,
476
00:18:50,930 --> 00:18:51,929
Along with arn, and tully, and jj.
477
00:18:52,131 --> 00:18:55,065
To be around those guys at that early stage--
478
00:18:55,135 --> 00:18:58,402
I was just barely out of my
rookie year--was enormous.
479
00:18:58,470 --> 00:19:01,071
[bell dinging]
480
00:19:01,141 --> 00:19:04,008
Narrator: The new united states champion, lex luger!
481
00:19:04,077 --> 00:19:06,878
- Lex luger was immediately a main event guy.
482
00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:09,747
- I will go down in
history as the greatest
483
00:19:09,815 --> 00:19:11,348
U.S. Champion
there ever was.
484
00:19:11,417 --> 00:19:12,750
Come on, guys!
485
00:19:12,952 --> 00:19:15,620
- He got the first
guaranteed contract
486
00:19:15,688 --> 00:19:16,821
That crockett had given out.
487
00:19:16,889 --> 00:19:19,957
- The total package, look at him!
488
00:19:20,026 --> 00:19:22,560
- Crockett was thinking, okay, vince mcmahon
489
00:19:22,628 --> 00:19:24,962
Is my only competition.
490
00:19:25,030 --> 00:19:26,630
Lex luger looks perfect for vince mcmahon,
491
00:19:26,699 --> 00:19:28,832
So I've gotta get him first.
492
00:19:28,902 --> 00:19:31,435
This did not go over well
with anybody else
493
00:19:31,504 --> 00:19:33,104
In the locker room
494
00:19:33,172 --> 00:19:36,774
Because luger was a totally unproven commodity.
495
00:19:36,976 --> 00:19:38,709
All the other guys, the veterans,
496
00:19:38,777 --> 00:19:40,711
They had to work against him.
497
00:19:40,780 --> 00:19:42,046
They had to work as his partner.
498
00:19:42,115 --> 00:19:44,382
They had to cover up for this so he could go out
499
00:19:44,584 --> 00:19:46,783
And flex and pose.
500
00:19:46,852 --> 00:19:47,918
- Larry was tough to work with,
501
00:19:47,987 --> 00:19:51,856
And he was so stiff
and so uncoordinated.
502
00:19:52,058 --> 00:19:55,859
The company was really babysitting luger.
503
00:19:55,928 --> 00:19:59,797
They liked the persona that they saw,
504
00:19:59,866 --> 00:20:01,598
And they thought
that they can market that
505
00:20:01,667 --> 00:20:04,201
Different than wrestling.
506
00:20:04,270 --> 00:20:07,872
There was so much jealousy and animosity that went on.
507
00:20:08,074 --> 00:20:11,475
- A lot of beers went down
over his contract.
508
00:20:11,678 --> 00:20:12,743
I can guarantee you that.
509
00:20:12,812 --> 00:20:15,012
Riding down the road
was not pleasant
510
00:20:15,081 --> 00:20:17,014
When a guy is getting paid double what you are.
511
00:20:20,286 --> 00:20:21,752
♪ ♪
512
00:20:21,954 --> 00:20:23,954
- They asked me to sign a contract.
513
00:20:24,023 --> 00:20:27,024
I didn't understand why
it was just unilateral.
514
00:20:27,093 --> 00:20:29,093
We sign you a contract,
but there's no money amount.
515
00:20:29,295 --> 00:20:32,096
So I said, is there, like, a
money amount in this contract?
516
00:20:32,164 --> 00:20:36,900
And jim crockett kinda
looked at me like, "well, no.
517
00:20:36,970 --> 00:20:39,837
We don't give out guaranteed contracts."
518
00:20:39,905 --> 00:20:40,571
There's not like anything in there,
519
00:20:40,773 --> 00:20:42,906
Like our football contract?
520
00:20:42,976 --> 00:20:43,441
So I was looking how a football contract
521
00:20:43,509 --> 00:20:44,975
Was structured.
522
00:20:45,044 --> 00:20:47,378
Jim crockett was like,
"well, what do you want
523
00:20:47,580 --> 00:20:48,912
In that contract?"
524
00:20:48,982 --> 00:20:51,048
I gave him a figure, and he agreed to it.
525
00:20:51,116 --> 00:20:54,051
I had a million-plus dollar
guaranteed contract,
526
00:20:54,253 --> 00:20:55,987
Which I didn't realize was
kinda unheard of at the time.
527
00:20:57,923 --> 00:20:59,923
- Mr. Ego himself right there, jim.
528
00:20:59,992 --> 00:21:02,460
He's got an ego as big as those muscles.
529
00:21:02,662 --> 00:21:04,795
- Lex was an egomaniac.
530
00:21:04,863 --> 00:21:08,065
That's a good thing,
not a bad thing.
531
00:21:08,134 --> 00:21:10,868
In this form of entertainment, if you don't have
532
00:21:11,070 --> 00:21:14,004
The drive to do it,
you're not gonna do it.
533
00:21:14,073 --> 00:21:15,873
- The bottom line is
I'm the best at what I do.
534
00:21:15,941 --> 00:21:19,209
- Lex had the ability for the fans
535
00:21:19,279 --> 00:21:23,014
To hate him or love him, and would draw numbers and people,
536
00:21:24,751 --> 00:21:26,817
But could have
been a lot better
537
00:21:26,885 --> 00:21:28,618
If he'd learned
to work with people
538
00:21:28,688 --> 00:21:32,289
And not think 100% of himself.
539
00:21:32,358 --> 00:21:34,024
♪ ♪
540
00:21:34,093 --> 00:21:36,960
- My first impression of lex luger was when I was
541
00:21:37,030 --> 00:21:40,431
A c-squad announcer,
batting cleanup for jim ross
542
00:21:40,500 --> 00:21:41,498
And tony schiavone.
543
00:21:41,567 --> 00:21:43,901
My name is eric bischoff.
544
00:21:43,969 --> 00:21:45,769
At the time, I was like, man that is--
545
00:21:45,838 --> 00:21:47,905
That's one arrogant
son of a bitch.
546
00:21:47,973 --> 00:21:51,508
- This is perfection
each and every time
547
00:21:51,577 --> 00:21:54,845
You see it in your arena.
548
00:21:54,913 --> 00:21:57,180
- It's really easy to understand
549
00:21:57,249 --> 00:22:00,117
How someone develops into that kind of a personality.
550
00:22:00,186 --> 00:22:02,052
Ever since I stepped foot in the wrestling business,
551
00:22:02,121 --> 00:22:04,588
I've had people around me
telling me that "I'm going
552
00:22:04,656 --> 00:22:05,656
To be the next big thing."
553
00:22:05,724 --> 00:22:07,925
- Cause I've got the brains.
554
00:22:07,994 --> 00:22:09,527
I've got the looks, and the physical tools
555
00:22:09,595 --> 00:22:10,927
To take whatever I want.
556
00:22:10,996 --> 00:22:14,598
- I think he was perceived
as being arrogant.
557
00:22:14,667 --> 00:22:16,000
He is a genuinely good guy.
558
00:22:18,070 --> 00:22:18,602
If I looked like that,
god, I might have been
559
00:22:18,671 --> 00:22:20,404
Really hard to live with, too.
560
00:22:20,606 --> 00:22:23,007
[cheering]
yeah!
561
00:22:24,143 --> 00:22:26,544
- Physically, just put
together like no one else.
562
00:22:26,746 --> 00:22:29,280
Had a body like no one else.
563
00:22:29,348 --> 00:22:32,616
And I said, how do you stay in such incredible condition?
564
00:22:32,685 --> 00:22:34,818
I mean you're--you're jacked.
565
00:22:34,887 --> 00:22:37,754
And he just, real
casually and nonchalant,
566
00:22:37,823 --> 00:22:40,557
Like, with just
total disrespect--
567
00:22:40,626 --> 00:22:42,959
He didn't even look at me.
568
00:22:43,028 --> 00:22:44,295
He just stood up, he said,
"yeah, I drink stoli
569
00:22:44,497 --> 00:22:46,630
And I eat m&ms."
570
00:22:46,698 --> 00:22:50,234
And I went, "oh, all right."
571
00:22:50,303 --> 00:22:51,435
♪ ♪
572
00:22:51,504 --> 00:22:54,238
But we got close.
573
00:22:54,307 --> 00:22:57,775
I mean, he was my age, and we had a lot of things in common.
574
00:22:57,977 --> 00:23:00,778
We were a new generation
of guys coming up
575
00:23:00,846 --> 00:23:03,647
Who wanted to have
the physiques.
576
00:23:03,716 --> 00:23:06,050
We wanted to look the part.
577
00:23:06,252 --> 00:23:08,718
So we ended up traveling up
and down the roads together.
578
00:23:08,788 --> 00:23:10,854
- Started mainly,
our relationship,
579
00:23:10,923 --> 00:23:13,524
With how to train properly
and work out,
580
00:23:13,726 --> 00:23:16,060
'cause he loved working out.
581
00:23:16,262 --> 00:23:17,928
- Then we just started hanging together all the time.
582
00:23:17,997 --> 00:23:21,399
- Families were friends, hung out together.
583
00:23:21,601 --> 00:23:22,867
We were neighbors.
584
00:23:23,069 --> 00:23:24,468
- I ended up moving into
the same neighborhood
585
00:23:24,670 --> 00:23:25,802
That he had moved into.
586
00:23:25,871 --> 00:23:27,404
- We opened some gyms together,
587
00:23:27,473 --> 00:23:28,472
Did really well.
588
00:23:28,674 --> 00:23:30,941
- And he loved to train.
589
00:23:31,010 --> 00:23:33,477
And he loved to watch his
body change, and grow,
590
00:23:33,546 --> 00:23:35,613
And, you know, get lean.
591
00:23:35,681 --> 00:23:38,148
- This, baby, is for real.
592
00:23:38,217 --> 00:23:40,551
- And not only did he try to keep that physique going,
593
00:23:40,620 --> 00:23:43,353
But he learned how to work.
594
00:23:43,423 --> 00:23:44,822
He really did.
595
00:23:44,891 --> 00:23:47,157
- He did great, and he looked the part.
596
00:23:47,226 --> 00:23:50,294
And the four horsemen thing,
it worked out great with him.
597
00:23:50,362 --> 00:23:51,896
♪ ♪
598
00:23:51,964 --> 00:23:54,832
And then working against him was great.
599
00:23:54,900 --> 00:23:57,701
- When I finally left the horsemen,
600
00:23:57,904 --> 00:23:58,969
Be able to get
a one-on-one program
601
00:23:59,037 --> 00:24:02,306
With one of the greatest
wrestlers ever lived,
602
00:24:02,375 --> 00:24:04,108
Ric flair.
603
00:24:04,310 --> 00:24:09,447
- This is an event with the two best that the nwa has
604
00:24:09,649 --> 00:24:11,248
Facing one another.
605
00:24:11,317 --> 00:24:12,916
♪ ♪
606
00:24:12,985 --> 00:24:15,052
- Crowd and the fans were really into it,
607
00:24:15,254 --> 00:24:17,988
And we had, like, sellout crowds everywhere we went.
608
00:24:18,057 --> 00:24:19,456
- We're put in a position of drawing money,
609
00:24:19,525 --> 00:24:21,525
And we did--a lot.
610
00:24:21,593 --> 00:24:23,860
He worked his ass off.
611
00:24:23,929 --> 00:24:25,262
He let me knock the
[bleep] out of him.
612
00:24:25,330 --> 00:24:26,263
- Oh!
613
00:24:26,332 --> 00:24:28,198
♪ ♪
614
00:24:28,267 --> 00:24:30,133
- Woo!
615
00:24:30,202 --> 00:24:34,004
He did anything that was asked him, and he worked hard.
616
00:24:35,140 --> 00:24:37,741
- It took about five years, but lex got to be
617
00:24:37,810 --> 00:24:40,077
A talented performer
in the ring.
618
00:24:40,145 --> 00:24:41,878
That's the same time where turner broadcasting
619
00:24:41,947 --> 00:24:45,749
Took over the company from crockett,
620
00:24:45,818 --> 00:24:48,218
And all business
went in the toilet.
621
00:24:48,287 --> 00:24:49,820
♪ ♪
622
00:24:49,889 --> 00:24:52,623
- When they sold the company to turner,
623
00:24:52,691 --> 00:24:53,991
I was so miserable with wcw.
624
00:24:54,894 --> 00:24:57,828
My contract was up for renewal,
625
00:24:57,897 --> 00:25:00,497
And they wanted me to lose the title
626
00:25:00,566 --> 00:25:02,966
To luger in baltimore.
627
00:25:03,035 --> 00:25:04,902
And I said, "I will be more than happy to."
628
00:25:04,970 --> 00:25:07,171
I said, "the belt's mine. I own it.
629
00:25:07,239 --> 00:25:10,040
"no one's paid me for the deposit from the old days.
630
00:25:10,109 --> 00:25:13,844
You guys owe me 25 and interest for 10 years."
631
00:25:13,913 --> 00:25:16,647
So what am I gonna do?
Hand them the belt
632
00:25:16,715 --> 00:25:18,849
Knowing I'll never get paid?
633
00:25:19,051 --> 00:25:24,655
So I went to wwe to
work for vince in '91.
634
00:25:24,723 --> 00:25:26,457
He said, "send me the belt."
635
00:25:26,659 --> 00:25:28,525
Phew, and away it went.
636
00:25:28,594 --> 00:25:30,194
The rest is history.
637
00:25:30,396 --> 00:25:32,529
♪ ♪
638
00:25:32,598 --> 00:25:35,065
- Ric had just left.
639
00:25:35,134 --> 00:25:37,134
He had actually taken the big gold belt with him,
640
00:25:37,336 --> 00:25:39,135
So I ended up wrestling-- I was supposed to wrestle ric.
641
00:25:39,204 --> 00:25:42,473
Ended up wrestling barry windham in a cage match as a--
642
00:25:42,675 --> 00:25:46,010
Barry was a substitute.
643
00:25:46,078 --> 00:25:48,612
We didn't even have a real belt made yet.
644
00:25:48,814 --> 00:25:50,214
They made kind of a fake belt.
645
00:25:50,416 --> 00:25:51,882
♪ ♪
646
00:25:51,951 --> 00:25:56,820
They made the best
of a difficult situation.
647
00:25:56,888 --> 00:25:59,623
- He's got him up in a piledriver.
648
00:25:59,692 --> 00:26:02,559
And there he--he planted him.
649
00:26:02,628 --> 00:26:03,427
Luger with the piledriver.
650
00:26:03,629 --> 00:26:05,763
He's hooked the leg.
651
00:26:05,831 --> 00:26:06,496
[bell dings]
and luger wins it!
652
00:26:06,565 --> 00:26:08,565
[cheers and applause]
653
00:26:08,634 --> 00:26:11,835
Lex luger has won the wcw
654
00:26:11,904 --> 00:26:14,304
World's heavyweight championship.
655
00:26:14,373 --> 00:26:16,173
♪ ♪
656
00:26:16,241 --> 00:26:18,442
- It was an honor, obviously, to become world champion
657
00:26:18,511 --> 00:26:19,843
For the first time.
658
00:26:20,046 --> 00:26:21,912
But it was a little different with it
659
00:26:21,980 --> 00:26:24,581
Not being the intended match with ric.
660
00:26:24,650 --> 00:26:25,916
And we had to kinda--
661
00:26:25,984 --> 00:26:28,251
We were scrambling kinda
to make things work.
662
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:31,588
♪ ♪
663
00:26:31,657 --> 00:26:32,589
- Lex was very frustrated.
664
00:26:32,658 --> 00:26:35,059
We were all very frustrated,
665
00:26:35,261 --> 00:26:38,529
Because we were always the
second class citizens to wwe.
666
00:26:38,731 --> 00:26:41,465
- Here comes the hulkster!
667
00:26:41,667 --> 00:26:43,734
Listen to these fans!
668
00:26:43,936 --> 00:26:44,601
- We'd always hear the stories.
669
00:26:44,670 --> 00:26:47,004
"yeah, you gotta jump ship.
670
00:26:48,474 --> 00:26:49,473
"you gotta go.
671
00:26:49,675 --> 00:26:50,874
"the grass is greener.
672
00:26:50,942 --> 00:26:53,610
Oh, man what an incredible place."
673
00:26:53,679 --> 00:26:56,013
And lex was lured into that.
674
00:26:57,549 --> 00:26:58,983
He had to get out.
675
00:27:00,152 --> 00:27:03,821
He was world champ, but he was looking beyond.
676
00:27:03,889 --> 00:27:05,555
He was looking at the ultimate.
677
00:27:05,625 --> 00:27:08,225
And at the time, it was wwe.
678
00:27:08,294 --> 00:27:10,627
♪ ♪
679
00:27:10,696 --> 00:27:11,895
- So I reached out to wwe.
680
00:27:11,964 --> 00:27:13,897
We worked out a deal where I'd be with
681
00:27:13,966 --> 00:27:16,966
This bodybuilding program for a year.
682
00:27:17,036 --> 00:27:19,036
- In the early '90s, vince wanted to create
683
00:27:19,104 --> 00:27:22,639
A rival to joe weider's bodybuilding federation,
684
00:27:22,708 --> 00:27:24,841
And vince created the wbf,
685
00:27:24,910 --> 00:27:26,844
The world bodybuilding federation.
686
00:27:27,046 --> 00:27:30,914
And he wanted lex to
be a part of his wbf.
687
00:27:30,983 --> 00:27:33,784
- What is the
world bodybuilding federation?
688
00:27:33,986 --> 00:27:38,722
It's about looking good, feeling great.
689
00:27:38,791 --> 00:27:40,190
It's about
sports entertainment.
690
00:27:40,392 --> 00:27:41,992
♪ ♪
691
00:27:42,060 --> 00:27:44,060
- I had a year left on my contract with wcw,
692
00:27:44,129 --> 00:27:47,864
And I went to wcw and said I'd like some time off.
693
00:27:47,933 --> 00:27:49,466
Didn't tell them I was
planning on signing
694
00:27:49,535 --> 00:27:50,867
A bodybuilding contract.
695
00:27:50,936 --> 00:27:52,803
The total package lex luger
has it all,
696
00:27:52,871 --> 00:27:56,874
Whether it's arms,
shoulders, chest.
697
00:27:57,076 --> 00:27:59,076
- There was nothing in lex's
contract with wcw
698
00:27:59,144 --> 00:28:02,546
That prevented lex from going
to work for the wbf,
699
00:28:02,615 --> 00:28:04,882
A bodybuilding federation.
700
00:28:05,084 --> 00:28:09,553
So lex came in as the bodybuilding guru,
701
00:28:09,755 --> 00:28:10,887
Or fitness guru, if you will.
702
00:28:10,956 --> 00:28:13,957
- Nobody knows better
than me, lex luger,
703
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,626
That it's important not only
to look good in the gym,
704
00:28:16,695 --> 00:28:19,096
But outside the gym, as well.
705
00:28:19,165 --> 00:28:22,833
- To be a co-host on this television show with vince
706
00:28:22,901 --> 00:28:24,835
That aired on Saturday mornings--
707
00:28:24,904 --> 00:28:26,503
- You might wanna practice
a little ab work
708
00:28:26,572 --> 00:28:28,105
Yourself there, fella.
709
00:28:28,307 --> 00:28:29,973
Thought that'd be pretty cool.
Do bodybuilding for a year,
710
00:28:30,176 --> 00:28:33,577
Stay home and train,
and then break into wrestling
711
00:28:33,779 --> 00:28:35,012
The following year with wwe.
712
00:28:38,383 --> 00:28:38,782
[exhales]
713
00:28:38,851 --> 00:28:39,983
You gotta want it.
714
00:28:45,858 --> 00:28:47,590
A lot of people wonder why I didn't
715
00:28:47,659 --> 00:28:50,060
Actually compete for wbf.
716
00:28:50,129 --> 00:28:52,129
I was just a few weeks away, was in peak condition.
717
00:28:52,331 --> 00:28:55,733
I was so excited. I was gonna actually be a guest poser,
718
00:28:55,935 --> 00:28:58,001
And I was so close to the event,
719
00:28:58,204 --> 00:29:01,205
But I ended up having
a near-fatal motorcycle wreck.
720
00:29:01,407 --> 00:29:02,539
♪ ♪
721
00:29:02,741 --> 00:29:03,941
That was a life and death.
722
00:29:04,009 --> 00:29:06,276
Head on with a car, 45 miles an hour.
723
00:29:06,345 --> 00:29:07,878
♪ ♪
724
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:09,480
Never forget the nurse
at the emergency room
725
00:29:09,682 --> 00:29:11,014
When I finally got there.
726
00:29:11,082 --> 00:29:12,349
"you better be thanking the lord," she said.
727
00:29:12,418 --> 00:29:14,217
You are a doa.
728
00:29:14,286 --> 00:29:15,552
♪ ♪
729
00:29:15,620 --> 00:29:16,954
I was in so much pain.
730
00:29:17,156 --> 00:29:19,957
I had bones sticking out
everywhere, and there was--
731
00:29:20,025 --> 00:29:21,558
I was like, "what's a doa?"
to her, I said.
732
00:29:21,627 --> 00:29:23,626
She goes, "dead on arrival."
733
00:29:23,695 --> 00:29:24,227
Dead on arrival, she told me.
734
00:29:24,296 --> 00:29:26,830
♪ ♪
735
00:29:26,899 --> 00:29:28,899
I wouldn't sign
the permission forms,
736
00:29:28,968 --> 00:29:32,002
'cause they were talking
about amputating my arm.
737
00:29:35,707 --> 00:29:38,241
And who walked in but sting.
738
00:29:38,310 --> 00:29:40,510
♪ ♪
739
00:29:40,579 --> 00:29:42,779
- It was such a mess.
740
00:29:42,848 --> 00:29:44,448
They ended up taking
the bandages off,
741
00:29:44,650 --> 00:29:45,916
And I looked at his arm.
742
00:29:46,118 --> 00:29:48,252
There was bones literally
sticking out of his arm.
743
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:51,254
It was like his whole elbow and
arm was completely open wide.
744
00:29:51,323 --> 00:29:54,124
♪ ♪
745
00:29:54,193 --> 00:29:58,995
And I thought, I don't know how this arm can be saved.
746
00:29:59,064 --> 00:30:00,731
And lex is like, "stinger,
don't let him touch me."
747
00:30:00,933 --> 00:30:03,000
He goes, "can you call
dr. Andrews?"
748
00:30:04,270 --> 00:30:07,204
Dr. Andrews, jim andrews out of birmingham, alabama.
749
00:30:07,272 --> 00:30:10,674
And it just so happened I had
his pager, and I paged him,
750
00:30:10,742 --> 00:30:12,809
And he got right back with me.
751
00:30:12,878 --> 00:30:13,744
And I explained
what was going on.
752
00:30:13,812 --> 00:30:15,812
He said,
"get him to birmingham,
753
00:30:15,881 --> 00:30:18,215
And I'll make sure that he's okay."
754
00:30:18,417 --> 00:30:20,017
♪ ♪
755
00:30:20,085 --> 00:30:22,419
I don't know how he put his arm back together.
756
00:30:22,487 --> 00:30:26,156
I really don't.
757
00:30:26,224 --> 00:30:27,824
- Even dr. Andrews said, "I don't know if you're gonna
758
00:30:27,893 --> 00:30:29,692
Have full use of that arm again."
759
00:30:29,761 --> 00:30:33,897
But I made my debut with wwe
760
00:30:33,965 --> 00:30:34,631
Less than six months later
after the wreck.
761
00:30:34,833 --> 00:30:38,001
It was just a miraculous
recovery.
762
00:30:40,105 --> 00:30:43,039
- I believe that vince had high expectations
763
00:30:43,108 --> 00:30:47,510
For lex luger, and felt
that lex had the potential
764
00:30:47,580 --> 00:30:49,246
To become this huge star.
765
00:30:49,315 --> 00:30:53,049
♪ ♪
766
00:30:53,118 --> 00:30:54,651
I didn't even know what the hell a narcissist was
767
00:30:54,853 --> 00:30:58,055
Until, you know, we met lex luger
768
00:30:58,123 --> 00:31:00,924
And vince came up with this,
"he's the narcissist!"
769
00:31:00,993 --> 00:31:02,526
Narcissistic personality, and someone who
770
00:31:02,728 --> 00:31:05,128
Really adores themselves,
771
00:31:05,197 --> 00:31:07,664
And is very enamored with the presence of themselves.
772
00:31:07,732 --> 00:31:09,600
And it was like yeah, perfect.
773
00:31:09,802 --> 00:31:11,935
- As I've been told back then,
774
00:31:12,004 --> 00:31:15,606
My personality can be pretty self-focused,
775
00:31:15,808 --> 00:31:17,608
And I called it very confident.
776
00:31:17,810 --> 00:31:18,742
Some people called it arrogant.
777
00:31:18,810 --> 00:31:21,144
So we kinda
thought that might
778
00:31:21,213 --> 00:31:24,948
Be a natural character for me
to portray, the narcissist.
779
00:31:25,017 --> 00:31:26,950
It's like, ooh, that might be kinda neat.
780
00:31:27,019 --> 00:31:28,485
Kinda thought, I can sink my teeth into being
781
00:31:28,554 --> 00:31:31,888
A narcissistic bad guy.
782
00:31:31,957 --> 00:31:33,290
I was excited about
being the narcissist.
783
00:31:33,358 --> 00:31:36,293
♪ ♪
784
00:31:36,495 --> 00:31:39,696
- Are you ready?
785
00:31:39,764 --> 00:31:41,832
It is my pleasure to introduce,
786
00:31:41,900 --> 00:31:48,438
And to unveil,
narcissist lex luger!
787
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:49,505
[theme music playing]
788
00:31:49,574 --> 00:31:54,044
Yes! Yes, he is here!
789
00:31:54,246 --> 00:31:57,113
- Excited to be making my debut with bobby heenan.
790
00:31:57,182 --> 00:32:00,717
One of the greatest ever introducing me was awesome.
791
00:32:00,786 --> 00:32:03,720
I was excited. I was pumped.
792
00:32:03,789 --> 00:32:05,521
- I know how
you feel about yourself.
793
00:32:05,590 --> 00:32:07,657
Oh, yes!
Look at that!
794
00:32:07,726 --> 00:32:09,259
Look at that!
Look at that!
795
00:32:09,461 --> 00:32:10,193
Oh, my god.
796
00:32:10,396 --> 00:32:11,995
♪ ♪
797
00:32:12,063 --> 00:32:15,198
- We were always looking
for some good, new talent
798
00:32:15,266 --> 00:32:18,201
In those days, somebody that
would be a good dance partner.
799
00:32:18,404 --> 00:32:20,737
♪ ♪
800
00:32:20,806 --> 00:32:21,938
When he came onto the scene,
801
00:32:22,007 --> 00:32:24,474
And they brought him in as the narcissist.
802
00:32:24,676 --> 00:32:26,810
Not a very friendly guy.
803
00:32:26,879 --> 00:32:27,810
Seemed to have a bit of an attitude,
804
00:32:27,879 --> 00:32:29,946
Even though he never really did.
805
00:32:30,015 --> 00:32:32,615
- He was a kind, good soul,
but he was just--
806
00:32:32,684 --> 00:32:34,684
Yeah, he was full of himself.
807
00:32:34,753 --> 00:32:36,553
And he had every right to be.
808
00:32:36,621 --> 00:32:40,557
- I truly am incredible.
809
00:32:40,626 --> 00:32:42,826
- He was the total package.
810
00:32:42,895 --> 00:32:44,961
- Lex never met a mirror he didn't like.
811
00:32:45,030 --> 00:32:50,167
Just making sure that
everything's just right.
812
00:32:50,235 --> 00:32:53,903
- I can feel the momentum building for wrestlemania.
813
00:32:53,973 --> 00:32:56,773
I feel, I know,
and everyone else will see,
814
00:32:56,975 --> 00:33:03,113
I will be the most
dominant force ever.
815
00:33:03,181 --> 00:33:05,048
You know, vince is-- man, he's a force of nature.
816
00:33:05,117 --> 00:33:07,517
His confidence and his
optimism for what he does--
817
00:33:07,585 --> 00:33:08,651
He loves the business.
818
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:10,720
- Okay, hold 'em
above your head.
819
00:33:10,789 --> 00:33:13,322
Okay, get 'em level,
if you would.
820
00:33:13,392 --> 00:33:15,525
And hit it!
821
00:33:15,593 --> 00:33:16,392
[fireworks crackling]
822
00:33:16,461 --> 00:33:18,728
[woman screaming]
823
00:33:18,797 --> 00:33:20,263
- Keep 'em up there.
Keep them up.
824
00:33:20,466 --> 00:33:22,465
Va-va-voom.
825
00:33:22,534 --> 00:33:26,203
[theme music playing]
826
00:33:26,271 --> 00:33:28,538
- Vince was very happy with the narcissist character,
827
00:33:28,607 --> 00:33:31,607
And I was enjoying it.
828
00:33:31,676 --> 00:33:32,943
- Oh no! He caught him.
829
00:33:33,145 --> 00:33:36,746
He caught him with that big forearm, that elbow.
830
00:33:36,815 --> 00:33:40,617
- As a heel,
as the narcissist, okay,
831
00:33:40,686 --> 00:33:41,952
He was a little--it's gimmicky,
832
00:33:42,020 --> 00:33:44,955
Like all wwe gimmicks were at that time.
833
00:33:45,157 --> 00:33:46,890
But that was kind of a pretty good use for lex,
834
00:33:46,959 --> 00:33:51,628
But vince saw him as the next hulk hogan.
835
00:33:51,830 --> 00:33:52,829
- Vince kind of
viewed lex luger
836
00:33:52,898 --> 00:33:55,699
Possibly as a replacement
for hulk hogan
837
00:33:55,767 --> 00:33:56,900
And some of the bigger stars--
838
00:33:56,969 --> 00:33:59,836
The randy savages, the ultimate warriors--
839
00:33:59,905 --> 00:34:03,573
And felt that lex had the potential
840
00:34:03,642 --> 00:34:05,308
To become this huge star.
841
00:34:05,376 --> 00:34:06,776
♪ ♪
842
00:34:06,845 --> 00:34:07,644
- They were actually looking for
843
00:34:07,846 --> 00:34:11,848
A top good guy at the time.
844
00:34:11,916 --> 00:34:12,849
Vince called me into
his office, said,
845
00:34:13,051 --> 00:34:14,451
"we're gonna switch you to lex luger,
846
00:34:14,653 --> 00:34:17,053
Like, the all-american."
847
00:34:17,122 --> 00:34:18,588
I was like, "are you kidding? I'm the narcissist."
848
00:34:18,790 --> 00:34:20,190
But he said, "no, it'll work."
849
00:34:20,392 --> 00:34:22,191
♪ ♪
850
00:34:22,260 --> 00:34:24,060
It wasn't so much that the narcissist wasn't working out.
851
00:34:24,129 --> 00:34:26,796
This was like it'd be a newer, better opportunity
852
00:34:26,865 --> 00:34:28,198
For everyone involved,
including myself.
853
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:29,800
♪ ♪
854
00:34:30,002 --> 00:34:31,868
- I think that vince's vision for lex
855
00:34:31,936 --> 00:34:36,873
Came out as an opponent
for yokozuna.
856
00:34:36,942 --> 00:34:38,475
- Yokozuna appears to be unstoppable!
857
00:34:38,677 --> 00:34:40,877
This man is fearless!
858
00:34:40,946 --> 00:34:43,946
- The audience couldn't figure out how
859
00:34:44,015 --> 00:34:48,018
And who can possibly defeat this monster.
860
00:34:48,086 --> 00:34:50,887
Because in a lot of ways, he was unbeatable.
861
00:34:51,089 --> 00:34:52,756
- Who's gonna take this man off his feet?
862
00:34:52,958 --> 00:34:54,824
- Lex luger was hopefully
going to be that
863
00:34:54,893 --> 00:34:58,428
Red, white, and blue
all-american hero
864
00:34:58,497 --> 00:35:00,763
To up see this evil
865
00:35:00,832 --> 00:35:04,301
International champion
in yokozuna.
866
00:35:04,369 --> 00:35:05,569
♪ ♪
867
00:35:05,771 --> 00:35:08,838
- Wwe fans by the thousands
868
00:35:08,907 --> 00:35:10,640
Turned out for america's birthday
869
00:35:10,709 --> 00:35:13,777
Onboard the uss intrepid.
870
00:35:13,845 --> 00:35:15,978
Yokozuna versus the u.S. Of a.
871
00:35:16,047 --> 00:35:17,581
All the competitive professional athletes
872
00:35:17,783 --> 00:35:20,650
Attempting to slam yokozuna.
873
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:21,518
- Are you up for the challenge?
874
00:35:21,586 --> 00:35:24,053
- You know I'm ready.
875
00:35:24,123 --> 00:35:30,793
- Nobody could slam this 500-plus pound behemoth.
876
00:35:30,862 --> 00:35:32,795
- Wait a minute,
ladies and gentlemen.
877
00:35:32,864 --> 00:35:38,668
We have just been told
one more try.
878
00:35:38,870 --> 00:35:41,738
Arriving by helicopter
right now.
879
00:35:41,940 --> 00:35:43,673
- Here comes lex in the helicopter,
880
00:35:43,741 --> 00:35:45,675
Arriving on the intrepid,
881
00:35:45,743 --> 00:35:46,676
And by god, here's my savior.
882
00:35:46,745 --> 00:35:49,613
[crowd chanting]
lex! Lex! Lex!
883
00:35:49,815 --> 00:35:51,882
- The last chance of america,
884
00:35:52,084 --> 00:35:55,218
With a look of determination in his eyes.
885
00:35:55,420 --> 00:35:57,954
- Come on!
886
00:35:58,023 --> 00:36:01,024
I wasn't sure. As strong as I was back then,
887
00:36:01,093 --> 00:36:03,426
I wasn't sure I could really actually slam him.
888
00:36:03,494 --> 00:36:06,496
He was a load.
889
00:36:06,564 --> 00:36:08,765
So I was nervous.
890
00:36:08,833 --> 00:36:12,902
- Yes! Lex luger has done it!
891
00:36:12,971 --> 00:36:16,506
Lex luger has accomplished the impossible!
892
00:36:16,575 --> 00:36:20,643
He slammed the 550-pound
893
00:36:20,712 --> 00:36:24,781
Wwe champion down to the mat.
894
00:36:24,849 --> 00:36:27,050
- It was an electrifying moment
895
00:36:27,118 --> 00:36:28,451
With the skyline of new york in the background.
896
00:36:28,654 --> 00:36:30,654
The crowd went berserk.
897
00:36:30,722 --> 00:36:32,789
I started thinking, man, I--
898
00:36:32,857 --> 00:36:33,990
This is kind of
a defining moment.
899
00:36:34,059 --> 00:36:35,725
I'm really making it at
this wrestling thing, man.
900
00:36:35,793 --> 00:36:38,795
I'm--this is
a pretty big deal.
901
00:36:38,863 --> 00:36:40,997
The big man went down on July
4th,
902
00:36:41,199 --> 00:36:44,267
Right here on the intrepid!
[cheers and applause]
903
00:36:44,336 --> 00:36:46,269
- Oh yeah!
904
00:36:46,338 --> 00:36:48,004
- Go, lex!
905
00:36:48,072 --> 00:36:50,740
- I was just coming in when they turned lex
906
00:36:50,809 --> 00:36:53,009
Into captain america,
basically.
907
00:36:54,546 --> 00:36:55,745
And it got over.
908
00:36:55,813 --> 00:36:57,080
Like, I thought
it worked great.
909
00:36:57,148 --> 00:37:00,283
- I think lex luger is one
of the best wwe wrestlers
910
00:37:00,352 --> 00:37:01,952
Here today.
911
00:37:02,154 --> 00:37:04,020
- When no other american
athlete could slam yokozuna,
912
00:37:04,089 --> 00:37:06,556
He came in for his country,
and he helped our country
913
00:37:06,625 --> 00:37:08,958
When we needed it the most.
914
00:37:09,027 --> 00:37:10,493
- For saving america,
I think he definitely
915
00:37:10,562 --> 00:37:11,494
Deserves a title shot.
916
00:37:11,563 --> 00:37:13,162
- No question about it.
917
00:37:13,231 --> 00:37:14,698
If he can slam him, he should
be able to get a title shot.
918
00:37:14,766 --> 00:37:19,502
[crowd chanting]
usa! Usa! Usa!
919
00:37:19,571 --> 00:37:20,903
- A whistle stop tour
920
00:37:20,972 --> 00:37:23,506
Through the southern states on a train
921
00:37:23,575 --> 00:37:24,908
Named spirit of america.
922
00:37:25,110 --> 00:37:27,444
The presidential wave, all the traditional
923
00:37:27,646 --> 00:37:28,978
Campaign trimmings.
924
00:37:29,047 --> 00:37:31,847
- George bush had done a train campaign
925
00:37:31,916 --> 00:37:33,916
Where he would stop in small towns,
926
00:37:33,986 --> 00:37:35,518
And he would get out on the back of the train
927
00:37:35,586 --> 00:37:36,586
And meet everybody.
928
00:37:36,654 --> 00:37:38,988
And that was his campaign.
929
00:37:39,057 --> 00:37:42,792
The idea was to do something
very similar with lex,
930
00:37:42,994 --> 00:37:46,062
To campaign across the united states
931
00:37:46,131 --> 00:37:50,400
For a championship match at summerslam with yokozuna.
932
00:37:50,602 --> 00:37:51,867
And we got a bus.
933
00:37:51,936 --> 00:37:54,537
Painted this bus red, white, and blue.
934
00:37:54,740 --> 00:37:57,140
Deemed it the lex express.
935
00:37:57,208 --> 00:37:59,742
- Well, here we are, red,
white, and blue, for yokozuna.
936
00:37:59,811 --> 00:38:03,012
- We did this whole big sendoff
937
00:38:03,081 --> 00:38:06,283
Of lex leaving from stamford, and the bus.
938
00:38:06,485 --> 00:38:08,418
- Mr. Lex luger!
939
00:38:08,620 --> 00:38:10,687
[cheers and applause]
940
00:38:10,889 --> 00:38:13,222
["stars and stripes forever"
playing]
941
00:38:13,291 --> 00:38:16,893
♪ ♪
942
00:38:16,961 --> 00:38:18,561
- George m. Cohan should have scored
943
00:38:18,764 --> 00:38:19,696
This thing, for god's sake.
944
00:38:19,764 --> 00:38:20,563
♪ I'm a yankee doodle dandy ♪
945
00:38:20,766 --> 00:38:22,765
America, patriotism, the flag,
946
00:38:22,834 --> 00:38:25,301
Mother, apple pie, all that stuff.
947
00:38:25,370 --> 00:38:27,036
♪ ♪
948
00:38:27,105 --> 00:38:29,105
- This is the kickoff
for lex luger call to action,
949
00:38:29,174 --> 00:38:31,574
And a world title match
hopefully down the line here.
950
00:38:31,643 --> 00:38:33,509
And let's just crank it up!
951
00:38:33,578 --> 00:38:35,311
[cheers and applause]
952
00:38:35,380 --> 00:38:37,780
♪ ♪
953
00:38:37,849 --> 00:38:41,117
- Hey, young fella.
How you doing?
954
00:38:41,186 --> 00:38:43,653
Good guys, there's more responsibility, more pr work.
955
00:38:43,855 --> 00:38:45,789
I thought, I mean,
I can do this.
956
00:38:45,991 --> 00:38:49,192
- The lex express,
it was a difficult sell.
957
00:38:49,261 --> 00:38:54,063
You wanna put me on a bus and drive me around the nation?
958
00:38:54,132 --> 00:38:55,531
- I had a family at home, and they said I'm gonna
959
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:56,732
Be on tour all summer.
960
00:38:56,801 --> 00:38:59,402
We had our boy, we had our girl,
961
00:38:59,604 --> 00:39:01,871
And we were a team,
962
00:39:01,940 --> 00:39:03,807
And we knew that that
was what I was doing
963
00:39:04,009 --> 00:39:08,211
And the way I provided for the family.
964
00:39:08,413 --> 00:39:10,880
I'm used to being on the road, but like, all summer in a bus?
965
00:39:10,949 --> 00:39:13,550
Oh, man, you gotta
go out and see my bus.
966
00:39:13,752 --> 00:39:14,817
Red, white, and blue curtains.
967
00:39:14,886 --> 00:39:18,355
This is my son, brian,
and he is excited.
968
00:39:18,557 --> 00:39:20,222
Aren't you, brian?
969
00:39:20,291 --> 00:39:22,024
[laughs]
970
00:39:22,094 --> 00:39:22,758
Flew me home to see my family a couple of times,
971
00:39:22,827 --> 00:39:25,428
For, like, one or two days.
972
00:39:25,630 --> 00:39:27,697
But I was on the bus.
973
00:39:27,899 --> 00:39:30,433
[crowd chanting]
luger! Luger! Luger!
974
00:39:30,502 --> 00:39:31,768
- Lex luger is here.
975
00:39:31,837 --> 00:39:33,102
He's the next big
thing in wrestling.
976
00:39:33,171 --> 00:39:35,705
- We're talking about the lex
express this morning.
977
00:39:35,907 --> 00:39:38,975
- Lex luger!
[cheers and applause]
978
00:39:39,043 --> 00:39:40,910
- All over the country, doing appearances
979
00:39:41,112 --> 00:39:42,779
From 5:00 in the morning at local affiliates
980
00:39:42,981 --> 00:39:45,515
In major cities, to the night shows,
981
00:39:45,583 --> 00:39:47,584
To 11:00 at night.
982
00:39:47,786 --> 00:39:50,320
[crowd chanting]
lex! Lex! Lex!
983
00:39:50,388 --> 00:39:51,721
- Oh, wow.
984
00:39:51,923 --> 00:39:52,655
You've been pumping up,
haven't you?
985
00:39:52,858 --> 00:39:55,724
- The bus was supposed to lead
986
00:39:55,794 --> 00:39:57,593
To more exposure for the company,
987
00:39:57,662 --> 00:39:59,863
And more exposure for lex.
988
00:40:00,065 --> 00:40:03,866
Go places that you wouldn't ordinarily go.
989
00:40:03,935 --> 00:40:05,535
- Coming to you from
the mall of america!
990
00:40:05,603 --> 00:40:07,937
[cheers and applause]
991
00:40:08,005 --> 00:40:09,605
- Give the everyday man an opportunity
992
00:40:09,674 --> 00:40:12,342
To touch a wwe superstar.
993
00:40:12,410 --> 00:40:16,278
[cheering]
994
00:40:16,347 --> 00:40:19,215
♪ ♪
995
00:40:19,284 --> 00:40:23,686
I don't think that lex shared
the same visions that we did,
996
00:40:23,755 --> 00:40:27,824
And lex wanted to have the bus,
997
00:40:27,892 --> 00:40:29,759
But lex wanted
to stay at the marriott.
998
00:40:29,961 --> 00:40:32,027
- I've done everything
I possibly could.
999
00:40:32,096 --> 00:40:33,096
- I asked mona lisa if I
could have a suite upgrade.
1000
00:40:33,298 --> 00:40:34,630
It was supposed to be
complementary with my marquis.
1001
00:40:34,699 --> 00:40:36,699
I shouldn't have to ask or beg.
1002
00:40:36,902 --> 00:40:37,967
And she said
immediately, no, and now
1003
00:40:38,035 --> 00:40:39,702
The other woman here,
who's the supervisor,
1004
00:40:39,770 --> 00:40:41,504
Says they probably do have one.
1005
00:40:41,706 --> 00:40:42,005
What do you think of that?
1006
00:40:43,975 --> 00:40:46,509
- I rode on that bus
for the first week
1007
00:40:46,578 --> 00:40:48,511
With lex and the crew.
1008
00:40:48,579 --> 00:40:50,379
The crew was great.
1009
00:40:50,449 --> 00:40:52,048
Crew was awesome.
1010
00:40:52,250 --> 00:40:53,850
- This stuff, we cannot have
these days like this, man.
1011
00:40:53,918 --> 00:40:55,318
We gotta have time
to do this [bleep].
1012
00:40:55,387 --> 00:40:57,854
I'm fatigued.
1013
00:40:57,923 --> 00:41:03,660
- Probably by
the end of week one, like--
1014
00:41:03,862 --> 00:41:04,994
I don't know
if this is the guy.
1015
00:41:08,733 --> 00:41:09,399
- As much as you
can smile, smile.
1016
00:41:09,601 --> 00:41:10,467
- [laughs] oh, yes.
1017
00:41:10,669 --> 00:41:13,870
That nice, phony smile.
1018
00:41:13,939 --> 00:41:16,606
- Lex was like, "uh, uh,
I don't wanna do it.
1019
00:41:16,808 --> 00:41:19,542
"just let me--
I wanna go in.
1020
00:41:19,611 --> 00:41:20,476
I need a chicken breast."
1021
00:41:20,545 --> 00:41:21,810
It's like, oh, god,
1022
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:23,546
- I get very cranky
when I don't eat,
1023
00:41:23,615 --> 00:41:24,947
And I'm low energy now.
1024
00:41:25,016 --> 00:41:29,085
I'm droning when I talk,
and bruce knows how I am.
1025
00:41:29,153 --> 00:41:32,021
And I'm very easy to get
along with, but I have to eat.
1026
00:41:32,089 --> 00:41:34,690
My concern was that I couldn't eat properly.
1027
00:41:34,759 --> 00:41:37,693
We're stuck here,
and I'm hungry.
1028
00:41:37,762 --> 00:41:41,631
And, I did lose
about ten pounds
1029
00:41:41,699 --> 00:41:42,832
In that four or five weeks.
1030
00:41:42,900 --> 00:41:44,767
And it was probably good muscle.
1031
00:41:44,836 --> 00:41:47,236
I'm going to the gym now.
De-mic me.
1032
00:41:47,305 --> 00:41:49,238
Bye!
1033
00:41:49,307 --> 00:41:51,040
I think about athletes saying I
don't wanna be a role model.
1034
00:41:51,109 --> 00:41:52,441
You know, today, a lot of
the professional athletes,
1035
00:41:52,511 --> 00:41:54,777
And I think that's--
1036
00:41:54,980 --> 00:41:55,778
You are whether you
want to be or not.
1037
00:41:55,847 --> 00:41:58,047
- There are a lot of assumptions
1038
00:41:58,115 --> 00:42:00,115
That lex was going to be the next big thing.
1039
00:42:00,184 --> 00:42:02,919
And he was going to be the guy to take the company
1040
00:42:03,121 --> 00:42:06,589
Into the next ten years as its conquering hero
1041
00:42:06,658 --> 00:42:08,858
And the face of the company.
1042
00:42:08,927 --> 00:42:10,660
- You're the franchise
of the '90s, buddy.
1043
00:42:10,862 --> 00:42:12,795
- Oh, man.
I don't know about that.
1044
00:42:12,864 --> 00:42:14,931
- There was one problem with that,
1045
00:42:15,133 --> 00:42:17,200
And that was it wasn't true
to the human being.
1046
00:42:17,402 --> 00:42:20,936
♪ ♪
1047
00:42:21,005 --> 00:42:22,872
- The question is, just who is lex luger?
1048
00:42:22,941 --> 00:42:24,807
- It's kinda funny you should ask that.
1049
00:42:24,876 --> 00:42:26,008
You know, since I've
been out on tour,
1050
00:42:26,077 --> 00:42:27,543
I think it's amazing some
of the questions people
1051
00:42:27,612 --> 00:42:29,078
Have already asked me.
1052
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:30,613
I mean, they come right up
to you and ask you questions.
1053
00:42:30,682 --> 00:42:32,815
And I wanna say, emphatically,
1054
00:42:33,018 --> 00:42:34,484
I welcome anybody
that comes up and asks me
1055
00:42:34,552 --> 00:42:35,218
A question on tour.
1056
00:42:35,420 --> 00:42:37,086
Feel free.
1057
00:42:37,288 --> 00:42:40,156
- He wanted to know what it
felt like to lift 550 pounds.
1058
00:42:40,358 --> 00:42:41,758
- Heavy.
1059
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:43,759
- I love lex,
and he was a great guy,
1060
00:42:43,828 --> 00:42:45,495
And you had to be
around him to know
1061
00:42:45,697 --> 00:42:46,996
That he was a quality guy.
1062
00:42:48,767 --> 00:42:51,968
But he wasn't very personable.
1063
00:42:52,037 --> 00:42:54,036
Didn't have his heart into being a babyface,
1064
00:42:54,105 --> 00:42:57,573
And he didn't like that
interaction with the fans.
1065
00:42:57,642 --> 00:42:59,575
- Hold that.
- Okay.
1066
00:42:59,644 --> 00:43:00,643
- And just point to this.
1067
00:43:00,712 --> 00:43:02,912
- Pretending to be a nice guy
1068
00:43:02,980 --> 00:43:03,646
And pretending to be in a good mood
1069
00:43:03,715 --> 00:43:05,514
When he wasn't necessarily.
1070
00:43:05,583 --> 00:43:08,117
- Is anybody else hot?
1071
00:43:08,185 --> 00:43:09,785
- I think he just didn't want
anything to do with them.
1072
00:43:09,854 --> 00:43:14,323
They were outside
his circle of life.
1073
00:43:14,392 --> 00:43:15,925
- All right.
1074
00:43:16,127 --> 00:43:18,594
- Lex didn't like going out,
signing autographs,
1075
00:43:18,663 --> 00:43:19,795
And talking to the fan base.
1076
00:43:19,864 --> 00:43:21,464
- Oh, I don't
wanna sign your shirt.
1077
00:43:21,533 --> 00:43:23,800
- So when he did it,
1078
00:43:24,002 --> 00:43:26,469
It came across as very disingenuous,
1079
00:43:26,671 --> 00:43:28,938
And came across as phony
1080
00:43:29,006 --> 00:43:30,406
- Now look at this,
isn't this wonderful?
1081
00:43:30,474 --> 00:43:32,342
The gifts I get.
1082
00:43:32,544 --> 00:43:33,743
- Because it was.
1083
00:43:33,812 --> 00:43:35,811
- Thank you.
Nice meeting you all.
1084
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:36,613
Oh, my knees, from bending down
1085
00:43:36,815 --> 00:43:38,348
To all those little kids, man.
1086
00:43:38,550 --> 00:43:39,882
It's arthritis.
1087
00:43:39,950 --> 00:43:41,951
- The babyface,
the hero, hulk hogan.
1088
00:43:42,153 --> 00:43:45,088
"say your prayers, take your vitamins," right?
1089
00:43:45,156 --> 00:43:47,824
Stone cold steve austin-- "don't trust anybody."
1090
00:43:48,026 --> 00:43:50,693
He was one of us. He's the common man.
1091
00:43:50,761 --> 00:43:52,428
Lex luger was not one of them.
1092
00:43:52,497 --> 00:43:53,629
He wasn't common.
1093
00:43:53,698 --> 00:43:56,098
He wasn't really a superhero.
1094
00:43:56,167 --> 00:43:59,101
He was a statue that you looked at, and you admired.
1095
00:43:59,170 --> 00:44:02,104
But you didn't really have any personal feelings for.
1096
00:44:02,173 --> 00:44:06,109
- I was very focused on my
training and my working out,
1097
00:44:06,311 --> 00:44:09,045
And I might not always be able to hide my displeasure
1098
00:44:09,247 --> 00:44:11,514
With some of the other things outside of the ring
1099
00:44:11,583 --> 00:44:13,049
They wanted me to do.
1100
00:44:13,251 --> 00:44:15,518
I don't wanna hear about wcw
or minor league wrestling,
1101
00:44:15,586 --> 00:44:17,186
So keep your mouth shut.
1102
00:44:17,388 --> 00:44:19,922
♪ ♪
1103
00:44:19,990 --> 00:44:21,924
So I could see some people definitely
1104
00:44:21,992 --> 00:44:24,593
Had that impression
that I was not always
1105
00:44:24,663 --> 00:44:26,462
The easiest guy to work with.
1106
00:44:26,530 --> 00:44:28,197
I understand that.
1107
00:44:28,265 --> 00:44:31,534
I actually got to shake their
hands, look 'em in the eye,
1108
00:44:31,602 --> 00:44:33,736
And meet those people.
1109
00:44:33,805 --> 00:44:36,538
I grew great strength
from that.
1110
00:44:36,607 --> 00:44:39,609
Oh, grew.
Oh, [bleep].
1111
00:44:39,811 --> 00:44:41,811
Drew. Damn it.
What am I doing?
1112
00:44:41,879 --> 00:44:43,879
- But grew would
have been fine, too.
1113
00:44:43,948 --> 00:44:46,616
- I knew I was never
gonna be hulk hogan
1114
00:44:46,684 --> 00:44:47,350
Or replacement hulk hogan.
1115
00:44:47,552 --> 00:44:48,951
I was just gonna--
1116
00:44:49,154 --> 00:44:50,619
I always wanted to be the
best lex luger I could be,
1117
00:44:50,689 --> 00:44:51,887
And that they wanted
me to be,
1118
00:44:51,956 --> 00:44:54,223
And do my job
the very best that I could.
1119
00:44:54,292 --> 00:44:56,559
[bleep]
1120
00:44:56,761 --> 00:44:57,827
- Don't get down on yourself.
1121
00:44:57,895 --> 00:44:59,428
- Can't get through
the first line.
1122
00:44:59,497 --> 00:45:01,564
- Yes, you can.
1123
00:45:01,632 --> 00:45:02,765
You're human
- okay.
1124
00:45:02,834 --> 00:45:04,701
- They want--they
want you to flub up.
1125
00:45:04,903 --> 00:45:06,568
They don't want
you to be perfect.
1126
00:45:06,637 --> 00:45:07,570
- Start again.
- Okay.
1127
00:45:07,639 --> 00:45:09,305
- I'm getting flustered now.
1128
00:45:09,373 --> 00:45:10,640
[bleep]
1129
00:45:10,708 --> 00:45:12,374
- [laughs]
no, you're okay.
1130
00:45:12,444 --> 00:45:13,643
- Okay. Let's go.
1131
00:45:13,845 --> 00:45:16,912
- Here we go.
- In three, two--
1132
00:45:16,981 --> 00:45:18,581
- I didn't shy away from
trying to be the guy.
1133
00:45:18,783 --> 00:45:20,983
Who wouldn't wanna be the guy?
1134
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:23,653
Well, this is it.
1135
00:45:23,855 --> 00:45:25,721
The last day
in the lex express.
1136
00:45:25,790 --> 00:45:27,790
The moment of truth
has arrived--
1137
00:45:27,859 --> 00:45:31,260
Myself versus yokozuna
for the title.
1138
00:45:31,329 --> 00:45:38,334
♪ ♪
1139
00:45:38,936 --> 00:45:41,470
- Will this be the
end of a long journey?
1140
00:45:41,539 --> 00:45:44,407
Or the start of another?
1141
00:45:44,475 --> 00:45:48,877
- Lex luger!
1142
00:45:48,946 --> 00:45:53,149
- Unbelievable applause for lex luger.
1143
00:45:53,351 --> 00:45:57,219
Many feel that no human being alive can defeat yokozuna.
1144
00:45:57,288 --> 00:45:58,687
♪ ♪
1145
00:45:58,757 --> 00:46:02,491
Can lex luger do the impossible?
1146
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:04,827
[cheers and applause]
1147
00:46:04,896 --> 00:46:07,430
And look out, here comes lex luger!
1148
00:46:07,632 --> 00:46:09,899
[cheers and applause]
1149
00:46:09,968 --> 00:46:12,235
- Yoko's out of the ring. He is out cold!
1150
00:46:12,437 --> 00:46:14,704
[cheering]
1151
00:46:14,772 --> 00:46:16,973
Luger's won it!
[bell dings]
1152
00:46:17,041 --> 00:46:18,974
[cheers and applause]
[theme music playing]
1153
00:46:19,043 --> 00:46:22,244
- But you cannot win this title on a countout.
1154
00:46:22,313 --> 00:46:24,580
♪ ♪
1155
00:46:24,649 --> 00:46:26,916
- The rules are such that
1156
00:46:27,118 --> 00:46:29,985
In order for a championship to change hands,
1157
00:46:30,054 --> 00:46:32,921
You have to win by a pinfall or a submission.
1158
00:46:32,990 --> 00:46:35,258
- He may have won the match, lex luger,
1159
00:46:35,326 --> 00:46:40,262
But the championship remains in the possession of yokozuna.
1160
00:46:40,331 --> 00:46:42,130
♪ ♪
1161
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:45,001
- So herein, the rules were in the champion's favor,
1162
00:46:45,069 --> 00:46:48,404
Because lex luger was able to hit yokozuna
1163
00:46:48,606 --> 00:46:49,939
Out to the floor,
1164
00:46:50,008 --> 00:46:53,609
And yoko wasn't able to answer the ten count
1165
00:46:53,678 --> 00:46:55,611
To get back into the ring.
1166
00:46:55,813 --> 00:46:57,813
Therefore, lex was victorious,
1167
00:46:57,882 --> 00:47:00,216
But lex didn't get the championship.
1168
00:47:00,285 --> 00:47:03,552
♪ ♪
1169
00:47:03,621 --> 00:47:05,755
- We were just like, huh?
1170
00:47:05,957 --> 00:47:06,956
'cause, like,
the balloons came down.
1171
00:47:07,158 --> 00:47:09,692
It was like he won the
championship, but he didn't.
1172
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:11,627
- What the countout finish did
1173
00:47:11,696 --> 00:47:13,963
Was it felt forced and fake,
1174
00:47:14,031 --> 00:47:15,631
The balloons dropping, and all-american,
1175
00:47:15,700 --> 00:47:18,234
And that's patriotism, right?
1176
00:47:18,303 --> 00:47:21,037
♪ ♪
1177
00:47:21,105 --> 00:47:23,372
- For him not to become the champion was kind of
1178
00:47:23,441 --> 00:47:25,641
Like, really?
1179
00:47:25,843 --> 00:47:27,776
We went all the
way to the moon,
1180
00:47:27,845 --> 00:47:28,777
And we just circled
and came back?
1181
00:47:28,847 --> 00:47:31,314
And we were supposed to land?
Like--
1182
00:47:31,382 --> 00:47:33,916
♪ ♪
1183
00:47:34,118 --> 00:47:35,651
- I said, he is going to end up looking like
1184
00:47:35,853 --> 00:47:38,454
A plate full of piss
out of this.
1185
00:47:38,656 --> 00:47:40,189
And that's what happened.
1186
00:47:40,391 --> 00:47:43,192
♪ ♪
1187
00:47:43,260 --> 00:47:47,329
- That u.S. Gimmick that he had, it was like a curse.
1188
00:47:47,398 --> 00:47:48,797
It ruined him.
1189
00:47:48,867 --> 00:47:49,932
- He doesn't look too happy, does he?
1190
00:47:50,134 --> 00:47:52,067
He's got a little bit of a smirk on his face,
1191
00:47:52,136 --> 00:47:55,070
But you're not seeing those big, white pearlies.
1192
00:47:55,139 --> 00:47:59,208
- If lex luger had won the title at summerslam '93,
1193
00:47:59,277 --> 00:48:03,278
He would have been over, and he
would have been an attraction.
1194
00:48:03,347 --> 00:48:05,080
♪ ♪
1195
00:48:05,149 --> 00:48:06,481
- People say, "they should have
given you the title,"
1196
00:48:06,550 --> 00:48:07,950
And this, and that.
1197
00:48:08,019 --> 00:48:10,485
And I was never given
any promises of winning
1198
00:48:10,554 --> 00:48:11,954
The title at summerslam.
1199
00:48:12,023 --> 00:48:15,091
- Vince mcmahon wanted to prolong the chase
1200
00:48:15,159 --> 00:48:17,994
Until wrestlemania, the following spring in '94.
1201
00:48:19,430 --> 00:48:20,296
- Tomorrow.
1202
00:48:20,364 --> 00:48:21,964
- Yeah.
1203
00:48:22,166 --> 00:48:24,232
- By the time that the next year's wrestlemania
1204
00:48:24,302 --> 00:48:26,569
Came along, vince had changed his mind because he had seen
1205
00:48:26,637 --> 00:48:28,838
That lex looked great,
1206
00:48:28,906 --> 00:48:31,640
And could talk and work as a heel,
1207
00:48:31,709 --> 00:48:34,043
But his babyface was limited.
1208
00:48:34,112 --> 00:48:40,248
- And still world wrestling
entertainment champion,
1209
00:48:40,318 --> 00:48:43,853
Yokozuna!
1210
00:48:44,055 --> 00:48:46,055
- Once he sort of failed
at getting the title,
1211
00:48:46,124 --> 00:48:49,859
In the fans eyes, they just, it was like, move on.
1212
00:48:50,061 --> 00:48:52,995
- So that meant that lex
was worthless in the wwe
1213
00:48:53,064 --> 00:48:55,865
From that point, because
he'd failed to win the title
1214
00:48:56,067 --> 00:48:58,067
And then didn't come back
and make good on it.
1215
00:48:58,136 --> 00:49:00,535
It's just something--I don't know whether he didn't
1216
00:49:00,604 --> 00:49:01,737
Wanna carry the weight.
1217
00:49:01,939 --> 00:49:02,537
I didn't know whether he didn't
1218
00:49:02,606 --> 00:49:05,073
Connect with the people.
1219
00:49:05,142 --> 00:49:07,009
He could be one of the guys.
He couldn't be the guy.
1220
00:49:10,481 --> 00:49:12,214
[tense music]
1221
00:49:12,282 --> 00:49:15,217
- The office, at that time, had basically had enough.
1222
00:49:15,286 --> 00:49:18,220
The poor road agents that had to deal with him every day.
1223
00:49:18,288 --> 00:49:22,425
And you know, I'm not trying
to make lex sound like anything
1224
00:49:22,627 --> 00:49:24,093
That he isn't, you know.
1225
00:49:24,161 --> 00:49:25,961
But I would get a report after each and every show.
1226
00:49:26,030 --> 00:49:29,832
And there was never any positive feedback
1227
00:49:29,900 --> 00:49:32,702
On lex's matches or lex's attitude.
1228
00:49:32,904 --> 00:49:34,103
- I don't think he was happy.
1229
00:49:34,172 --> 00:49:37,573
He never really fit in in wwe, and at the same time,
1230
00:49:37,641 --> 00:49:39,241
Wcw was like home to him.
1231
00:49:39,444 --> 00:49:42,044
[applause]
1232
00:49:42,246 --> 00:49:45,114
- Wcw, over the past 12 months,
and since the addition
1233
00:49:45,316 --> 00:49:48,050
Of hulk hogan and randy savage,
is really closing the gap.
1234
00:49:48,119 --> 00:49:49,785
We're coming on strong.
We've got a lot of momentum.
1235
00:49:49,987 --> 00:49:52,521
And all I can say is
tune in September 4.
1236
00:49:52,590 --> 00:49:54,723
You'll see the difference.
1237
00:49:54,792 --> 00:49:57,593
- Lex was always looking to see
1238
00:49:57,662 --> 00:50:00,129
Where the grass was greener,
1239
00:50:00,198 --> 00:50:03,732
And personally, I did not see
lex re-signing the contract.
1240
00:50:03,801 --> 00:50:05,868
Lex was all about
the bottom line.
1241
00:50:05,937 --> 00:50:09,071
And as that date got closer and closer,
1242
00:50:09,139 --> 00:50:11,006
He continually lied and said,
"I'm going sign it.
1243
00:50:11,075 --> 00:50:13,609
I'm going to sign it."
- what do you guys feel--
1244
00:50:13,678 --> 00:50:15,144
- You don't want to tape this.
1245
00:50:15,346 --> 00:50:17,480
- After the third time you tell
me you're going to sign it,
1246
00:50:17,548 --> 00:50:20,482
You don't sign it,
1247
00:50:20,551 --> 00:50:22,151
You're not signing it.
1248
00:50:22,220 --> 00:50:24,754
- Vince and I worked with his attorneys and everything,
1249
00:50:24,956 --> 00:50:26,622
Thinking we're probably
gonna re-sign,
1250
00:50:26,824 --> 00:50:29,758
And reset
my character with wwe,
1251
00:50:29,827 --> 00:50:31,827
And that's what
I intended to do.
1252
00:50:31,896 --> 00:50:34,430
On a happenchance
conversation with sting,
1253
00:50:34,499 --> 00:50:36,298
That all changed.
1254
00:50:36,366 --> 00:50:39,034
- I think that the grass maybe was greener there for a while,
1255
00:50:39,103 --> 00:50:40,836
And it was kind of exciting in the beginning.
1256
00:50:40,904 --> 00:50:43,639
And eventually,
I think he realized,
1257
00:50:43,707 --> 00:50:45,774
"oh, man, this sucks, man."
1258
00:50:45,843 --> 00:50:48,911
He was gone more than ever now.
1259
00:50:49,113 --> 00:50:51,914
At least with wcw,
a lot of things that we did
1260
00:50:51,982 --> 00:50:54,984
Were in and around
the mid-atlantic area.
1261
00:50:55,052 --> 00:50:57,920
We could drive to, and from,
and get back home.
1262
00:50:57,989 --> 00:51:02,124
And he had his kids and his family, and he--
1263
00:51:02,326 --> 00:51:05,194
At that particular time, you know, he wanted to get back.
1264
00:51:05,396 --> 00:51:06,862
♪ ♪
1265
00:51:06,931 --> 00:51:10,866
He asked if I would
speak with eric bischoff
1266
00:51:10,934 --> 00:51:12,667
And put a good word in because eric
1267
00:51:12,736 --> 00:51:14,402
Was suddenly running the show.
1268
00:51:14,472 --> 00:51:16,205
He was our boss.
1269
00:51:16,273 --> 00:51:20,409
I remember sting pulling me
aside, and he said, "eric, I--
1270
00:51:20,611 --> 00:51:21,743
"can I talk to you?
1271
00:51:21,812 --> 00:51:23,679
I want to talk
to you about lex."
1272
00:51:23,748 --> 00:51:26,681
I went,
"oh, I saw this coming."
1273
00:51:26,750 --> 00:51:28,484
I was afraid I saw it coming.
1274
00:51:28,553 --> 00:51:29,818
And I listened to steve.
1275
00:51:29,887 --> 00:51:32,087
And he was passionate, you know.
1276
00:51:32,156 --> 00:51:34,890
He explained to me how I didn't really know lex luger,
1277
00:51:34,958 --> 00:51:37,026
And that lex luger knows that he probably
1278
00:51:37,094 --> 00:51:39,562
Didn't handle himself as well as he could have
1279
00:51:39,630 --> 00:51:40,962
Or should have in wcw.
1280
00:51:41,031 --> 00:51:43,765
And you know, lex really wanted to come back.
1281
00:51:43,834 --> 00:51:46,502
And I didn't really
want him back.
1282
00:51:46,571 --> 00:51:47,769
I just couldn't believe
1283
00:51:47,838 --> 00:51:49,772
That he had changed that much
1284
00:51:49,974 --> 00:51:51,773
Or was willing to change that much.
1285
00:51:51,842 --> 00:51:53,976
- I'm vouching
for him, of course.
1286
00:51:54,044 --> 00:51:57,512
You know, he's not gonna
be the same as he was.
1287
00:51:57,581 --> 00:51:59,181
He's gonna be different.
1288
00:51:59,250 --> 00:52:02,651
- I made up my mind that I was going to offer lex a deal,
1289
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:04,786
But I was gonna lowball him.
1290
00:52:04,856 --> 00:52:07,923
In fact, it was such a lowball offer
1291
00:52:07,992 --> 00:52:09,591
That I thought, well, I can honestly say
1292
00:52:09,660 --> 00:52:11,927
I offered to bring him back.
1293
00:52:12,129 --> 00:52:14,129
And I--honestly, I thought
he would turn it down.
1294
00:52:14,198 --> 00:52:17,532
I thought it was an insulting
offer, and it really was.
1295
00:52:17,601 --> 00:52:19,135
I offered him $150,000.
1296
00:52:19,337 --> 00:52:23,872
He was the guy that was making
$750,000 a year when he left.
1297
00:52:23,941 --> 00:52:27,609
And now he's coming
back after a run in wwe,
1298
00:52:27,678 --> 00:52:30,145
And I'm offering him $150,000.
1299
00:52:30,214 --> 00:52:34,816
Keep in mind, there were guys
in our developmental system
1300
00:52:34,886 --> 00:52:36,151
That were not far from that number.
1301
00:52:36,220 --> 00:52:40,890
And I was thinking there's no way he's gonna take this.
1302
00:52:41,092 --> 00:52:42,691
- Eric bischoff was not a big lex luger fan,
1303
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:45,160
And he gave me a lowball offer.
1304
00:52:45,229 --> 00:52:49,098
But I was--love the challenge,
and wanted to make a change.
1305
00:52:49,166 --> 00:52:49,965
I thought it'd be cool to be part of the new show
1306
00:52:50,167 --> 00:52:51,967
And be back with my best buddy, sting.
1307
00:52:52,169 --> 00:52:55,504
And I said, well, I'll
prove myself all over again.
1308
00:52:55,572 --> 00:52:56,705
I'll go back there.
1309
00:52:56,774 --> 00:52:58,907
- From minneapolis, minnesota,
1310
00:52:58,976 --> 00:53:01,910
The mall of america, the only building
1311
00:53:01,979 --> 00:53:04,580
Big enough to hold the debut edition
1312
00:53:04,648 --> 00:53:08,783
Of "wcw Monday nitro."
1313
00:53:08,852 --> 00:53:10,920
It became crystal clear to me
early on
1314
00:53:11,122 --> 00:53:13,856
How I wanted to use lex,
and use him as a surprise,
1315
00:53:14,058 --> 00:53:15,991
Because that would set
the tone for "nitro."
1316
00:53:16,060 --> 00:53:17,326
Let me tell you, we've got some great surprises
1317
00:53:17,528 --> 00:53:18,793
Coming your way.
1318
00:53:18,862 --> 00:53:20,930
- The internet was just starting
1319
00:53:21,132 --> 00:53:21,863
To come into the fold, and everyone was trying
1320
00:53:21,932 --> 00:53:23,666
To get the scoop on what was gonna
1321
00:53:23,734 --> 00:53:24,799
Be on a particular program.
1322
00:53:24,868 --> 00:53:26,868
So wcw wanted a surprise factor.
1323
00:53:26,938 --> 00:53:29,004
Now, I was raised that no matter what,
1324
00:53:29,072 --> 00:53:32,408
You always left the right way and would give
1325
00:53:32,610 --> 00:53:34,209
A two week notice.
1326
00:53:34,278 --> 00:53:36,211
But one of the stipulations for eric was, well, yeah,
1327
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:37,946
But if you do that, there's no surprise with you coming in.
1328
00:53:38,015 --> 00:53:39,881
- We got a lot of
great action coming your way.
1329
00:53:39,950 --> 00:53:42,885
- And I really felt I couldn't pass up
1330
00:53:42,953 --> 00:53:44,486
The opportunity for myself and my family
1331
00:53:44,554 --> 00:53:46,488
To go back to wcw.
1332
00:53:47,225 --> 00:53:49,825
- I had just left him on the road, like two days earlier,
1333
00:53:49,893 --> 00:53:51,493
Up in nova scotia or something,
1334
00:53:51,562 --> 00:53:52,628
Up in the maritimes,
1335
00:53:52,697 --> 00:53:53,762
And you never would have known.
1336
00:53:53,964 --> 00:53:56,565
He knew he was leaving,
but he was pro
1337
00:53:56,767 --> 00:53:58,100
Up until the very last day.
1338
00:53:58,169 --> 00:54:00,569
- And they flew me in that same day into minneapolis
1339
00:54:00,771 --> 00:54:02,905
And did hide me at a hotel.
1340
00:54:02,973 --> 00:54:03,972
And they waited till, like, 30 minutes
1341
00:54:04,041 --> 00:54:05,774
Before the show started and brought me in
1342
00:54:05,976 --> 00:54:06,642
With, like, towels around my head
1343
00:54:06,710 --> 00:54:08,110
To a back door in a room.
1344
00:54:08,179 --> 00:54:10,846
It was all, like, incredible, the lengths they went to
1345
00:54:11,048 --> 00:54:12,848
To protect whether or not I was there.
1346
00:54:13,050 --> 00:54:15,517
- What a match up we have got in store
1347
00:54:15,586 --> 00:54:17,919
In this debut broadcast.
1348
00:54:17,988 --> 00:54:21,389
What--what in the hell is he doing here?
1349
00:54:21,458 --> 00:54:22,725
I'm in shock.
1350
00:54:22,927 --> 00:54:24,726
Lex luger making an appearance,
1351
00:54:24,795 --> 00:54:26,729
Here of all places?
[cheering]
1352
00:54:26,931 --> 00:54:27,529
- It was a very well-kept secret,
1353
00:54:27,732 --> 00:54:29,731
And people are freaking out.
1354
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:31,800
[crowd chanting]
luger! Luger! Luger!
1355
00:54:32,002 --> 00:54:33,668
- Well, you said things are gonna happen
1356
00:54:33,737 --> 00:54:34,536
Every Monday night, bischoff.
1357
00:54:34,604 --> 00:54:35,804
And it's happening.
1358
00:54:35,873 --> 00:54:39,007
- He had jumped
ship back with wcw,
1359
00:54:39,076 --> 00:54:43,879
And it really helped set us up
for great success,
1360
00:54:43,948 --> 00:54:45,146
Because there was already controversy.
1361
00:54:45,215 --> 00:54:49,084
- Wait, luger's in there! - Lex luger! In the ring!
1362
00:54:49,152 --> 00:54:51,553
- Vince mcmahon, wwe had always been good to me,
1363
00:54:51,756 --> 00:54:53,154
And that really bothered me,
1364
00:54:53,223 --> 00:54:56,959
'cause I wasn't a class act,
just being on their tv taping
1365
00:54:57,027 --> 00:54:59,628
A few days prior, then walking on wcw's
1366
00:54:59,697 --> 00:55:02,630
Without giving proper notice.
1367
00:55:02,700 --> 00:55:05,100
- Vince was betrayed and hurt,
1368
00:55:05,168 --> 00:55:08,036
Because I do believe that vince really liked lex
1369
00:55:08,105 --> 00:55:13,108
And really wanted to make
that potential reality.
1370
00:55:13,176 --> 00:55:16,779
Lex was a challenge, and
vince loves those challenges.
1371
00:55:16,981 --> 00:55:19,515
"I'll show you.
I'll make him a star."
1372
00:55:19,583 --> 00:55:21,984
And never happened.
1373
00:55:26,123 --> 00:55:29,525
- Jimmy hart leads in the total package lex luger.
1374
00:55:29,593 --> 00:55:30,925
- Look at him, tony.
1375
00:55:30,994 --> 00:55:32,728
This man has been world champion before.
1376
00:55:32,797 --> 00:55:35,931
He could very well do it again.
1377
00:55:35,999 --> 00:55:38,801
Wow! Look at the strength of this man.
1378
00:55:39,003 --> 00:55:41,469
- It's the torture rack! - He's got him!
1379
00:55:41,538 --> 00:55:42,471
- Look at him, baby!
1380
00:55:42,540 --> 00:55:44,873
The next wcw champion!
1381
00:55:44,942 --> 00:55:48,009
- You're looking at
the past, the present,
1382
00:55:48,078 --> 00:55:50,879
And the future of world
championship wrestling.
1383
00:55:50,948 --> 00:55:54,550
- One of the things
that was great for lex
1384
00:55:54,752 --> 00:55:58,019
And for wcw is lex came back
1385
00:55:58,088 --> 00:56:03,224
As the tide was really
beginning to shift for wcw.
1386
00:56:03,293 --> 00:56:05,827
- These fans are about to tear the roof off of this thing.
1387
00:56:05,896 --> 00:56:07,830
- Lex had the opportunity to come back
1388
00:56:07,898 --> 00:56:10,899
And re-establish himself at a time
1389
00:56:10,968 --> 00:56:13,969
When wcw was now riding a wave of success.
1390
00:56:14,038 --> 00:56:16,572
- Not a seat to be found, a capacity crowd,
1391
00:56:16,774 --> 00:56:17,839
Thousands turned away today
1392
00:56:17,908 --> 00:56:19,842
For the hottest ticket on pay-per-view.
1393
00:56:19,910 --> 00:56:21,910
It's world championship wrestling,
1394
00:56:21,979 --> 00:56:26,248
And you can see why we are number one.
1395
00:56:26,316 --> 00:56:28,717
- His popularity was like-- in an instant, it was back.
1396
00:56:28,919 --> 00:56:30,585
It was like, oh,
okay, you're home now
1397
00:56:30,654 --> 00:56:33,054
Where you're supposed to be.
1398
00:56:33,124 --> 00:56:35,590
- When luger came in, it was a huge benefit for wcw.
1399
00:56:35,659 --> 00:56:36,925
He was a main event player.
1400
00:56:36,993 --> 00:56:39,862
He was a guy that
had been a world champion,
1401
00:56:39,930 --> 00:56:40,929
That had worked against
world champions,
1402
00:56:40,998 --> 00:56:43,531
That understood what it took to draw money
1403
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:45,200
And work his character.
1404
00:56:45,268 --> 00:56:49,604
- Lex luger was instrumental to the success of "nitro,"
1405
00:56:49,673 --> 00:56:51,940
And his attitude was so good.
1406
00:56:52,009 --> 00:56:54,610
I mean, he went out of
his way to kind of raise
1407
00:56:54,812 --> 00:56:56,812
The energy in the locker room.
1408
00:56:56,881 --> 00:56:58,013
He really was a part of the team,
1409
00:56:58,082 --> 00:57:00,549
And he made you feel like he was excited to be
1410
00:57:00,617 --> 00:57:01,617
A part of that team.
1411
00:57:01,685 --> 00:57:03,885
And that really won me over.
1412
00:57:03,954 --> 00:57:05,820
So at that point, didn't have to do it.
1413
00:57:05,889 --> 00:57:07,556
I sat down with him, and we started
1414
00:57:07,758 --> 00:57:08,957
Talking about his contract.
1415
00:57:09,025 --> 00:57:11,760
I said, "okay, lex,
I offered you something
1416
00:57:11,828 --> 00:57:13,161
"that I was hoping
you'd, you know,
1417
00:57:13,230 --> 00:57:16,565
"get so pissed off at me over
that you wouldn't come back.
1418
00:57:16,633 --> 00:57:17,966
"you've proven yourself.
1419
00:57:18,168 --> 00:57:19,501
"let's talk about what your career looks like
1420
00:57:19,569 --> 00:57:20,969
Going forward here."
1421
00:57:21,038 --> 00:57:23,505
And I renegotiated his deal
as a result of just
1422
00:57:23,574 --> 00:57:25,908
The way he contributed.
1423
00:57:25,976 --> 00:57:27,910
- He came in, and he was different.
1424
00:57:27,978 --> 00:57:30,779
He had, perhaps, been humbled somewhat,
1425
00:57:30,981 --> 00:57:32,514
And was grateful for the opportunity
1426
00:57:32,583 --> 00:57:34,249
To be able to come back.
1427
00:57:34,318 --> 00:57:37,119
And he was a little bit more helpful for some of the guys.
1428
00:57:37,187 --> 00:57:40,589
You know, he realized, hey,
you know, I guess this can
1429
00:57:40,658 --> 00:57:43,725
Be kind of like a team effort.
1430
00:57:43,928 --> 00:57:45,727
- I love lex luger, personally.
1431
00:57:45,796 --> 00:57:46,728
Lex and I always get along great.
1432
00:57:46,797 --> 00:57:49,197
He was always
super kind with me.
1433
00:57:49,266 --> 00:57:50,866
I didn't understand that a lot
of the heat that I was getting
1434
00:57:50,934 --> 00:57:52,801
From other people
that were a little bit
1435
00:57:53,003 --> 00:57:54,936
Envious of the position that I was in,
1436
00:57:55,005 --> 00:57:56,939
And lex helped me deal with that a lot.
1437
00:57:57,141 --> 00:57:59,541
Luger gave me a lot of insight in the business.
1438
00:57:59,609 --> 00:58:03,011
- Lex luger was awesome.
1439
00:58:05,015 --> 00:58:07,549
He brought an attitude and a work ethic
1440
00:58:07,618 --> 00:58:09,551
That I've never seen before.
1441
00:58:09,619 --> 00:58:10,552
He was a perfectionist.
1442
00:58:10,754 --> 00:58:12,820
And he helped me out a lot.
1443
00:58:12,890 --> 00:58:13,956
He was a guy who came from football,
1444
00:58:14,024 --> 00:58:16,959
So you could still talk
to him on that level
1445
00:58:17,161 --> 00:58:20,495
Without him just giving you
a wrestling perspective.
1446
00:58:20,564 --> 00:58:21,830
- Lex luger, one half
1447
00:58:21,898 --> 00:58:22,631
Of the world tag team champions,
1448
00:58:22,699 --> 00:58:24,966
Also television champion.
1449
00:58:25,035 --> 00:58:27,569
- Lex's success that he
was having at the time--
1450
00:58:27,638 --> 00:58:29,971
- He's gonna rack rodman!
1451
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:32,774
- Definitely led to lex getting an opportunity
1452
00:58:32,842 --> 00:58:35,043
To have higher profile matches.
1453
00:58:35,111 --> 00:58:36,378
I just had more trust and confidence in lex
1454
00:58:36,447 --> 00:58:38,980
As a performer.
1455
00:58:39,049 --> 00:58:39,581
And he certainly got more popular, I think,
1456
00:58:39,649 --> 00:58:42,050
Than he ever had been.
1457
00:58:42,252 --> 00:58:43,451
And a lot of that was just
because his attitude changed.
1458
00:58:43,521 --> 00:58:45,854
[cheers and applause]
1459
00:58:45,922 --> 00:58:47,722
- We are live, and we are awaiting
1460
00:58:47,791 --> 00:58:52,995
The biggest matchup ever
on "nitro."
1461
00:58:53,197 --> 00:58:56,197
Lex luger's last world title reign ended in 1992,
1462
00:58:56,266 --> 00:58:59,667
But now he will go after the man who has set the standard
1463
00:58:59,736 --> 00:59:02,337
For world titles in our sport.
1464
00:59:02,539 --> 00:59:03,538
[dramatic music]
1465
00:59:03,607 --> 00:59:04,872
- Hogan was the champ,
1466
00:59:04,942 --> 00:59:06,408
But by the time we got to auburn hills,
1467
00:59:06,476 --> 00:59:08,076
Lex was red hot.
1468
00:59:08,278 --> 00:59:11,813
- Who has more confidence and momentum on their side
1469
00:59:11,882 --> 00:59:12,814
Than the total package lex luger?
1470
00:59:12,882 --> 00:59:14,282
- They're standing in detroit!
1471
00:59:14,351 --> 00:59:15,551
- Yes!
1472
00:59:15,753 --> 00:59:16,884
- He's got him in the rack!
1473
00:59:16,954 --> 00:59:18,420
He's got him in the rack! - Hogan's--
1474
00:59:18,488 --> 00:59:19,687
Hogan says yes!
1475
00:59:19,756 --> 00:59:20,555
Hogan says yes!
[bell dinging]
1476
00:59:20,624 --> 00:59:21,489
- Look at him tap out!
1477
00:59:21,559 --> 00:59:22,691
- Luger won the title!
1478
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:24,559
- Luger's the champion! - Wow!
1479
00:59:24,628 --> 00:59:26,294
- Luger defeats hogan!
1480
00:59:26,363 --> 00:59:32,033
♪ ♪
1481
00:59:32,102 --> 00:59:35,437
- The night in detroit, when I won the wcw title,
1482
00:59:35,639 --> 00:59:36,838
Against hulk hogan,
1483
00:59:36,906 --> 00:59:38,774
The response, I'll never forget.
1484
00:59:38,976 --> 00:59:40,976
It was incredible
in detroit that night.
1485
00:59:41,044 --> 00:59:44,713
- It is celebration time in the motor city!
1486
00:59:44,782 --> 00:59:46,782
- And in the exact same building
1487
00:59:46,984 --> 00:59:48,450
Where I didn't win it back in '93.
1488
00:59:48,519 --> 00:59:49,851
[cheers and applause]
1489
00:59:50,054 --> 00:59:52,921
- That place went nuts when he won, man.
1490
00:59:53,123 --> 00:59:55,657
'cause I think they
were just thinking it's not
1491
00:59:55,725 --> 00:59:57,392
Really going to happen, is it?
1492
00:59:57,460 --> 00:59:59,460
You know, like--
1493
00:59:59,529 --> 01:00:00,595
It was really cool.
1494
01:00:00,664 --> 01:00:02,664
- Look at the show of unity.
1495
01:00:02,733 --> 01:00:04,065
All in to show their support.
1496
01:00:04,134 --> 01:00:07,603
- Never with so much emotion and so much camaraderie
1497
01:00:07,805 --> 01:00:09,938
As we are seeing right there.
1498
01:00:10,006 --> 01:00:14,676
- Being the main event spot with hogan
1499
01:00:14,878 --> 01:00:16,478
And then winning a world title--
1500
01:00:16,547 --> 01:00:19,214
That was a huge deal.
1501
01:00:19,416 --> 01:00:21,950
♪ ♪
1502
01:00:22,018 --> 01:00:24,419
He proved whatever he had to do
to get back,
1503
01:00:24,621 --> 01:00:26,755
It was all worth it.
1504
01:00:26,824 --> 01:00:29,157
- He reached his own expectations
1505
01:00:29,225 --> 01:00:32,027
As a performer, and he won the respect of the people
1506
01:00:32,229 --> 01:00:34,896
That he worked with and shared a locker room with.
1507
01:00:34,964 --> 01:00:36,698
And that has to be
important to anybody.
1508
01:00:36,900 --> 01:00:39,434
[all chanting]
luger! Luger! Luger!
1509
01:00:39,503 --> 01:00:41,769
- Yeah!
- Whoo!
1510
01:00:41,838 --> 01:00:44,506
- Ahh!
- Lex luger, at that time,
1511
01:00:44,575 --> 01:00:45,974
Those Monday night wars,
1512
01:00:46,043 --> 01:00:48,243
Was someone that wcw needed
to carry the title.
1513
01:00:48,312 --> 01:00:49,711
♪ ♪
1514
01:00:49,779 --> 01:00:52,047
- The fireworks are going off
1515
01:00:52,249 --> 01:00:55,784
For the heavyweight champion of the world, lex luger.
1516
01:00:55,986 --> 01:00:58,720
- The Monday night
wars was just magical.
1517
01:00:58,922 --> 01:01:01,656
It was definitely an amazing time
1518
01:01:01,725 --> 01:01:02,924
To be a professional wrestler.
1519
01:01:02,992 --> 01:01:04,659
- Look at the fans, standing, cheering
1520
01:01:04,728 --> 01:01:06,861
The total package lex luger.
1521
01:01:06,930 --> 01:01:08,530
- We were all together.
It was great. Ah!
1522
01:01:08,598 --> 01:01:09,798
All hugs and kisses.
1523
01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:12,467
Wow, what a great rating on the tv show.
1524
01:01:12,669 --> 01:01:14,002
We're number one now.
1525
01:01:14,071 --> 01:01:17,673
- We had a great camaraderie
together on the road.
1526
01:01:17,875 --> 01:01:22,343
Wolfpac is most definitely
in the--
1527
01:01:22,412 --> 01:01:25,012
All: House!
1528
01:01:25,082 --> 01:01:26,881
- In and out, both in
the ring, out of the ring,
1529
01:01:26,950 --> 01:01:30,152
Afterwards we'd go out and hang out.
1530
01:01:30,220 --> 01:01:32,153
- So a lot of times, we could
get done with a tv taping,
1531
01:01:32,222 --> 01:01:34,890
Get back to the hotel bar, and
watch "nitro" on tv together.
1532
01:01:35,092 --> 01:01:37,492
- Everyone would gather
and watch the replay,
1533
01:01:37,561 --> 01:01:39,961
And put ourselves over.
1534
01:01:40,164 --> 01:01:43,164
- And the bar was open,
the guys were celebrating.
1535
01:01:43,233 --> 01:01:45,500
I used to always socialize with the guys a little bit,
1536
01:01:45,568 --> 01:01:48,036
Have a few beers.
1537
01:01:48,105 --> 01:01:50,639
Some of the guys, who might
have a couple of pills,
1538
01:01:50,841 --> 01:01:52,307
Say, hey, try a couple
of these.
1539
01:01:52,375 --> 01:01:53,975
♪ ♪
1540
01:01:54,178 --> 01:01:56,511
It was a kind of time of
celebration, and good times,
1541
01:01:56,580 --> 01:01:57,245
And camaraderie, really.
1542
01:01:57,314 --> 01:02:00,982
♪ ♪
1543
01:02:01,050 --> 01:02:03,852
- Over the months, and a couple of years,
1544
01:02:04,054 --> 01:02:06,454
It got pretty dark for all of us, you know?
1545
01:02:06,523 --> 01:02:09,858
Alcohol, you know, pills
1546
01:02:10,060 --> 01:02:12,327
Caused us to make all the wrong choices.
1547
01:02:12,396 --> 01:02:14,262
- Giant party!
1548
01:02:14,331 --> 01:02:16,998
♪ ♪
1549
01:02:17,066 --> 01:02:19,801
- Towards about the middle or end of 1998,
1550
01:02:19,869 --> 01:02:21,536
Or whenever it was,
started noticing
1551
01:02:21,605 --> 01:02:23,472
That lex was never around.
1552
01:02:23,674 --> 01:02:24,739
He went back to his room,
1553
01:02:24,808 --> 01:02:26,408
And he obviously had
a relationship
1554
01:02:26,610 --> 01:02:29,544
With miss elizabeth.
1555
01:02:29,612 --> 01:02:30,812
Wasn't a big secret.
1556
01:02:31,014 --> 01:02:33,014
It was pretty obvious to everybody.
1557
01:02:33,082 --> 01:02:35,083
- We got to know each other at the tapings.
1558
01:02:35,285 --> 01:02:37,152
I had respect for her and what
she'd done in the business.
1559
01:02:37,220 --> 01:02:39,955
- The first lady of wrestling, the lovely elizabeth.
1560
01:02:40,023 --> 01:02:43,158
- She'd worked with randy for many years.
1561
01:02:43,226 --> 01:02:46,361
- He has the most charisma
of any wrestler in the world.
1562
01:02:46,430 --> 01:02:48,029
He's the best.
1563
01:02:48,232 --> 01:02:52,100
- They'd been apart for--
divorced for many, many years.
1564
01:02:52,169 --> 01:02:56,037
- The total package, the stunning elizabeth, come out.
1565
01:02:56,106 --> 01:02:57,638
- I always thought, well,
I would never get involved
1566
01:02:57,707 --> 01:03:00,642
With someone that I work with.
1567
01:03:00,710 --> 01:03:02,310
That wouldn't be very smart.
1568
01:03:02,512 --> 01:03:04,012
Sure enough--
1569
01:03:08,318 --> 01:03:09,985
- So--
1570
01:03:12,522 --> 01:03:14,188
- [clears throat]
1571
01:03:14,257 --> 01:03:15,857
Hi.
1572
01:03:15,926 --> 01:03:17,725
After liz and randy got their divorce,
1573
01:03:17,795 --> 01:03:19,660
She ended up getting remarried.
1574
01:03:19,729 --> 01:03:21,129
She was married.
I was married.
1575
01:03:21,331 --> 01:03:24,799
Obviously not something either
of us should have been doing.
1576
01:03:24,868 --> 01:03:28,203
And it just progressed from there.
1577
01:03:28,405 --> 01:03:29,737
♪ ♪
1578
01:03:29,807 --> 01:03:32,941
- Everybody is like,
this is crazy.
1579
01:03:33,010 --> 01:03:34,943
What are you doing? You know, you and liz--
1580
01:03:35,012 --> 01:03:38,146
But, you know, there was no getting through.
1581
01:03:38,214 --> 01:03:41,883
- They were not only in a clandestine relationship,
1582
01:03:41,952 --> 01:03:44,753
But they were both
participating a little bit
1583
01:03:44,955 --> 01:03:47,622
Too much in the
pharmaceutical side of
1584
01:03:47,691 --> 01:03:50,158
Their recreational activities.
1585
01:03:50,226 --> 01:03:52,560
- Without me realizing it,
towards the end of my career,
1586
01:03:52,629 --> 01:03:55,096
Which really was '01,
1587
01:03:55,164 --> 01:03:57,766
The last couple of years I was definitely starting
1588
01:03:57,834 --> 01:04:00,035
To drink
a little bit more at home,
1589
01:04:00,103 --> 01:04:04,039
More and more gradually popping a few more pills
1590
01:04:04,107 --> 01:04:05,907
Here and there, like, oh, I'll take a pain pill
1591
01:04:05,975 --> 01:04:07,508
To go to the gym to get a good workout.
1592
01:04:07,578 --> 01:04:09,244
I always had a reason.
1593
01:04:09,313 --> 01:04:11,913
♪ ♪
1594
01:04:11,982 --> 01:04:14,516
- Even when we were
partying, you could party
1595
01:04:14,718 --> 01:04:16,518
Till 4:00 in the morning.
1596
01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:18,920
9:00, your phone would ring.
1597
01:04:18,989 --> 01:04:20,388
He'd be in the lobby
with two cups of coffee
1598
01:04:20,457 --> 01:04:21,789
Like, "let's go."
1599
01:04:21,859 --> 01:04:24,525
And you didn't miss your workouts.
1600
01:04:24,594 --> 01:04:27,395
- Lex, he was going deep.
1601
01:04:27,463 --> 01:04:28,997
He went deep.
1602
01:04:29,066 --> 01:04:30,798
And then I ended up going down that road, too.
1603
01:04:30,867 --> 01:04:35,069
It got pretty dark for all of us,
1604
01:04:35,138 --> 01:04:40,742
But he was still able to
function and have his matches.
1605
01:04:40,811 --> 01:04:42,076
- I have won every major title,
1606
01:04:42,145 --> 01:04:45,680
And I've looked better than everyone else doing it.
1607
01:04:45,748 --> 01:04:47,883
I'm a successful businessman.
1608
01:04:48,085 --> 01:04:51,987
I'm good. I'm great at everything I do.
1609
01:04:53,156 --> 01:04:55,023
I never thought of myself--
because of my discipline,
1610
01:04:55,091 --> 01:04:56,691
And training, and eating,
and getting to the gym,
1611
01:04:56,893 --> 01:04:58,827
I never thought I would
have any--
1612
01:04:59,029 --> 01:05:00,428
Any kind of issue with drugs,
or alcohol,
1613
01:05:00,630 --> 01:05:03,098
Or anything like that.
1614
01:05:03,300 --> 01:05:04,165
You know the old saying, too much time, too much money.
1615
01:05:04,234 --> 01:05:05,766
Too much time on my hands, too much money.
1616
01:05:05,835 --> 01:05:07,234
That's kinda
the devil's workshop.
1617
01:05:07,304 --> 01:05:08,970
- Mm.
1618
01:05:09,172 --> 01:05:12,007
Well, it definitely
manifested itself in my life.
1619
01:05:12,909 --> 01:05:14,642
- We are stunned. We are floored.
1620
01:05:14,711 --> 01:05:16,644
The very last telecast of
1621
01:05:16,713 --> 01:05:22,049
"wcw Monday nitro" on tnt.
1622
01:05:22,118 --> 01:05:24,919
- Wcw just got bought out and swallowed up by wwe
1623
01:05:24,988 --> 01:05:27,254
After that long term Monday night war.
1624
01:05:27,324 --> 01:05:28,723
♪ ♪
1625
01:05:28,792 --> 01:05:32,127
I figured, well, if tnt and tbs
1626
01:05:32,195 --> 01:05:34,595
Don't have wrestling anymore,
I'll go wrestle in japan,
1627
01:05:34,664 --> 01:05:36,464
Or back to potentially wwe.
1628
01:05:36,666 --> 01:05:39,067
I didn't dwell on it.
1629
01:05:39,135 --> 01:05:41,670
I had a guaranteed contract of a lot of money.
1630
01:05:41,872 --> 01:05:44,071
You got all that money coming in.
1631
01:05:44,140 --> 01:05:45,540
You don't have to go to work,
which wasn't good for me
1632
01:05:45,742 --> 01:05:48,543
For almost three more years.
1633
01:05:48,611 --> 01:05:50,345
- It got really bad.
1634
01:05:50,547 --> 01:05:52,814
He was a mess.
1635
01:05:52,882 --> 01:05:55,817
I cleaned my life up
with god's help,
1636
01:05:56,019 --> 01:05:59,220
And now I was able to try to help him.
1637
01:05:59,289 --> 01:06:01,822
♪ ♪
1638
01:06:01,891 --> 01:06:04,993
There was no, no
getting through to him.
1639
01:06:07,297 --> 01:06:09,097
♪ ♪
1640
01:06:09,165 --> 01:06:11,499
- At that phase, elizabeth had moved to atlanta.
1641
01:06:11,568 --> 01:06:13,635
I was seeing her more.
1642
01:06:13,703 --> 01:06:16,170
She was on one side of town.
1643
01:06:16,239 --> 01:06:18,306
My wife and family are on the
other side of town in atlanta.
1644
01:06:18,374 --> 01:06:19,641
♪ ♪
1645
01:06:19,709 --> 01:06:23,044
My marriage disintegrated.
1646
01:06:23,113 --> 01:06:28,115
My wife realized that I
had been seeing elizabeth.
1647
01:06:28,184 --> 01:06:30,585
She tried to give me a second
chance, a third chance.
1648
01:06:30,653 --> 01:06:32,253
I let her down every time.
1649
01:06:32,322 --> 01:06:33,721
♪ ♪
1650
01:06:33,790 --> 01:06:35,190
I was not making good decisions.
1651
01:06:35,392 --> 01:06:37,125
♪ ♪
1652
01:06:37,194 --> 01:06:39,728
- I hung out with them, and,
like, I was around them a lot.
1653
01:06:39,930 --> 01:06:40,261
So I knew they were going hard.
1654
01:06:40,330 --> 01:06:42,997
♪ ♪
1655
01:06:43,066 --> 01:06:44,666
- Elizabeth turned into a different person,
1656
01:06:44,868 --> 01:06:47,001
As drugs will often do
to people.
1657
01:06:47,070 --> 01:06:50,538
- Things continued
in a steady downward spiral.
1658
01:06:50,740 --> 01:06:54,275
More alcohol, more drugs.
1659
01:06:54,344 --> 01:06:57,812
♪ ♪
1660
01:06:57,880 --> 01:07:00,548
- It was tough
because lex got lost
1661
01:07:00,750 --> 01:07:02,216
In the booze at that time.
1662
01:07:02,285 --> 01:07:04,485
♪ ♪
1663
01:07:04,554 --> 01:07:07,021
- I had my first arrest.
1664
01:07:07,090 --> 01:07:08,756
I got pulled over, they said under the influence.
1665
01:07:08,825 --> 01:07:10,558
I had had just a couple of beers.
1666
01:07:10,760 --> 01:07:12,093
They gave me a breathalyzer.
1667
01:07:12,162 --> 01:07:13,828
I passed it, but they felt
that I was on something else,
1668
01:07:13,896 --> 01:07:16,898
Which I was,
I had popped a few pills.
1669
01:07:16,967 --> 01:07:20,234
Never did I imagine I'd ever be in jail.
1670
01:07:20,303 --> 01:07:21,836
♪ ♪
1671
01:07:21,905 --> 01:07:23,904
First of over--
I don't know how many--
1672
01:07:23,973 --> 01:07:26,240
Maybe a dozen or more arrests
after that.
1673
01:07:26,309 --> 01:07:29,910
♪ ♪
1674
01:07:29,979 --> 01:07:31,645
One of the neighbors called the police
1675
01:07:31,714 --> 01:07:33,314
For a domestic disturbance.
1676
01:07:33,382 --> 01:07:35,049
♪ ♪
1677
01:07:35,118 --> 01:07:39,720
Both liz and I were shocked
that I got arrested.
1678
01:07:39,790 --> 01:07:41,255
I mean, we had an argument,
but--
1679
01:07:41,324 --> 01:07:43,792
♪ ♪
1680
01:07:43,994 --> 01:07:44,859
I've learned now from law enforcement,
1681
01:07:44,928 --> 01:07:46,994
When they come to a domestic dispute,
1682
01:07:47,063 --> 01:07:49,397
They usually--they end up taking somebody in.
1683
01:07:49,599 --> 01:07:51,733
And so I went in.
1684
01:07:51,801 --> 01:07:53,267
And that,
you know, that stuck.
1685
01:07:53,336 --> 01:07:56,804
♪ ♪
1686
01:07:56,873 --> 01:07:59,807
And so I was making a lot of really
1687
01:07:59,876 --> 01:08:01,542
Bad decisions, selfish decisions
1688
01:08:01,611 --> 01:08:03,077
At that time in my life.
1689
01:08:03,146 --> 01:08:06,014
Things were really--still,
I wouldn't have admitted it
1690
01:08:06,082 --> 01:08:08,883
At the time, but really
going to a dark place
1691
01:08:09,085 --> 01:08:11,219
And really getting out
of control, in a bad way.
1692
01:08:11,288 --> 01:08:13,821
- 911.
1693
01:08:13,890 --> 01:08:14,989
- Yeah, I have an emergency medical.
1694
01:08:18,494 --> 01:08:21,229
[dramatic tone]
1695
01:08:21,298 --> 01:08:24,098
♪ ♪
1696
01:08:24,167 --> 01:08:25,500
- We were watching some
movies, and went to drinking,
1697
01:08:25,568 --> 01:08:26,968
Popping some pills.
1698
01:08:27,037 --> 01:08:29,170
I hadn't been there most
of the day that--actually,
1699
01:08:29,239 --> 01:08:32,640
Our cleaning lady was at the
townhouse we were at together,
1700
01:08:32,709 --> 01:08:35,910
And she thought liz was fine.
1701
01:08:35,979 --> 01:08:37,979
And I didn't know what--
what she'd been doing,
1702
01:08:38,181 --> 01:08:40,448
Whether she'd been drinking
or doing during her day,
1703
01:08:40,517 --> 01:08:43,184
But she seemed fine.
1704
01:08:43,386 --> 01:08:44,852
♪ ♪
1705
01:08:44,921 --> 01:08:46,520
One minute, we were at the microwave,
1706
01:08:46,589 --> 01:08:48,123
Heating up some food.
1707
01:08:48,325 --> 01:08:53,127
And I--I brought hers over to
her, went and heated mine up.
1708
01:08:53,196 --> 01:08:55,864
By the time I got back from
the microwave, ten feet away,
1709
01:08:56,066 --> 01:08:59,066
She was what I thought
was asleep on the couch.
1710
01:08:59,135 --> 01:09:02,670
And I thought that was
strange, and asked her, hey--
1711
01:09:02,872 --> 01:09:04,539
Asked her to,
"hey, liz wake up.
1712
01:09:04,741 --> 01:09:05,473
Your food's gonna get cold."
1713
01:09:05,675 --> 01:09:07,675
And she didn't respond.
1714
01:09:07,744 --> 01:09:08,409
So I knew, well,
that's strange.
1715
01:09:08,478 --> 01:09:11,746
So I got up and--
1716
01:09:11,948 --> 01:09:12,947
She's maybe five,
six feet away, and--
1717
01:09:13,149 --> 01:09:15,616
And tried to shake her,
and she didn't respond.
1718
01:09:15,685 --> 01:09:20,354
And I immediately called 911.
1719
01:09:20,423 --> 01:09:21,990
I was panicked.
1720
01:09:50,920 --> 01:09:52,720
- When the ambulance gets there,
1721
01:09:52,922 --> 01:09:53,787
And they wheeled her
out on the gurney
1722
01:09:53,856 --> 01:09:55,923
And put her in back
of the ambulance,
1723
01:09:55,992 --> 01:09:59,126
You just figure
everything's gonna be okay.
1724
01:09:59,195 --> 01:10:01,929
- Police were called here about 5:30 in the morning.
1725
01:10:01,998 --> 01:10:04,932
A 911 call said a woman was unresponsive.
1726
01:10:05,001 --> 01:10:06,934
A few minutes later, by the time she arrived
1727
01:10:07,003 --> 01:10:10,205
At kennestone hospital, the woman was dead.
1728
01:10:10,407 --> 01:10:12,874
♪ ♪
1729
01:10:13,076 --> 01:10:15,876
- The moment I found out that
she had passed--
1730
01:10:15,946 --> 01:10:18,546
I remember it was--
it was just total shock.
1731
01:10:18,614 --> 01:10:20,748
I remember it was hot.
1732
01:10:20,817 --> 01:10:22,683
I was overheated.
I was dehydrated.
1733
01:10:22,752 --> 01:10:25,953
I felt like I was
gonna pass out.
1734
01:10:26,022 --> 01:10:29,691
Just--when I'm asked
my feeling in that moment.
1735
01:10:29,893 --> 01:10:33,428
Just total disbelief
and shock that--
1736
01:10:33,630 --> 01:10:35,897
That she didn't make it.
1737
01:10:35,965 --> 01:10:40,368
- He called me,
freaking out, in tears.
1738
01:10:40,570 --> 01:10:42,636
"stinger, stinger!
1739
01:10:42,705 --> 01:10:44,906
"oh, my gosh.
Oh, my gosh.
1740
01:10:45,108 --> 01:10:48,909
"she's gone. She's gone.
She died. She died. She--
1741
01:10:48,978 --> 01:10:50,445
"I don't know what
I'm gonna do, you know.
1742
01:10:50,513 --> 01:10:52,313
My life is over."
1743
01:10:52,381 --> 01:10:54,849
♪ ♪
1744
01:10:54,918 --> 01:10:56,851
- I knew, 'cause we talked about it,
1745
01:10:56,920 --> 01:10:58,919
Like, he was really in love with her.
1746
01:10:58,988 --> 01:11:00,922
I mean, he'd have done anything for her.
1747
01:11:01,124 --> 01:11:04,859
And it really took him down when she passed.
1748
01:11:04,927 --> 01:11:09,197
It mentally destroyed him
for a long time.
1749
01:11:09,399 --> 01:11:14,002
♪ ♪
1750
01:11:14,204 --> 01:11:17,739
- I was devastated,
and I was angry as hell at lex,
1751
01:11:17,941 --> 01:11:20,941
Which is really
immature on my part,
1752
01:11:21,010 --> 01:11:23,478
Because she made her own
decisions and choices.
1753
01:11:23,680 --> 01:11:26,213
She was an adult woman.
1754
01:11:26,283 --> 01:11:30,818
I felt that lex took advantage of her, and influenced her,
1755
01:11:31,020 --> 01:11:34,555
You know, and maybe
took her down that path.
1756
01:11:34,758 --> 01:11:36,223
I blamed lex for a long time.
1757
01:11:36,293 --> 01:11:37,958
♪ ♪
1758
01:11:38,028 --> 01:11:39,961
- After I found out-- I was sitting out front
1759
01:11:40,029 --> 01:11:41,696
Of my townhouse-- that she didn't make it,
1760
01:11:41,765 --> 01:11:43,965
They arrested me on drug charges.
1761
01:11:44,033 --> 01:11:46,634
- Police say his arrest is not connected
1762
01:11:46,702 --> 01:11:48,036
To miss elizabeth's death,
1763
01:11:48,238 --> 01:11:50,772
But what investigators found inside the townhouse.
1764
01:11:50,840 --> 01:11:51,706
Pfohl is charged with violating
1765
01:11:51,774 --> 01:11:54,242
The controlled substance act.
1766
01:11:54,310 --> 01:11:55,977
- The charges are spelled out in the new arrest warrant.
1767
01:11:56,045 --> 01:11:57,912
Lawrence pfohl, better known as lex luger,
1768
01:11:58,114 --> 01:12:00,247
Accused of possessing and selling drugs--
1769
01:12:00,317 --> 01:12:03,250
Drugs like anabolic steroids, and saizen, a growth hormone.
1770
01:12:03,319 --> 01:12:04,718
♪ ♪
1771
01:12:04,787 --> 01:12:07,788
- Marriage fell apart, divorce,
1772
01:12:07,857 --> 01:12:10,191
A horrible impact on my children.
1773
01:12:10,393 --> 01:12:11,859
♪ ♪
1774
01:12:11,927 --> 01:12:14,995
My life had become
a total train wreck,
1775
01:12:15,064 --> 01:12:17,865
And I always think I could
pull it back together
1776
01:12:17,933 --> 01:12:20,802
And do one more big run in the ring.
1777
01:12:20,870 --> 01:12:22,670
[cheering]
- these people have come
1778
01:12:22,738 --> 01:12:25,139
To see lex luger, no doubt.
1779
01:12:25,341 --> 01:12:29,544
The total package has been making a hot trailblazing path
1780
01:12:29,746 --> 01:12:31,078
On the independent scene.
1781
01:12:31,147 --> 01:12:33,681
- My body was starting to break down a little bit.
1782
01:12:33,883 --> 01:12:34,815
15 years of high school, college,
1783
01:12:34,884 --> 01:12:37,418
Pro football,
and 15 years of wrestling
1784
01:12:37,620 --> 01:12:38,553
Almost 5,000 matches.
1785
01:12:38,621 --> 01:12:40,020
- Luger off the ropes.
1786
01:12:40,090 --> 01:12:43,957
Both men trying for a clothesline, and stumble.
1787
01:12:44,026 --> 01:12:45,693
I think luger got the better of that one.
1788
01:12:45,895 --> 01:12:48,896
- Again, arrogance. Ignorance.
1789
01:12:48,965 --> 01:12:50,965
Not realizing that I was in a big time
1790
01:12:51,034 --> 01:12:54,168
Life and death struggle with drugs and alcohol.
1791
01:12:54,237 --> 01:12:56,571
And I kept on thinking I could end it any time I wanted.
1792
01:12:56,639 --> 01:12:58,906
More pills, more alcohol.
1793
01:12:59,108 --> 01:13:00,708
The exact opposite of
what you would've thought
1794
01:13:00,776 --> 01:13:02,310
Might have been a wake-up call.
1795
01:13:02,378 --> 01:13:03,911
♪ ♪
1796
01:13:03,980 --> 01:13:06,781
I actually received a five-year sentence
1797
01:13:06,983 --> 01:13:09,917
For the drugs
and did some jail time.
1798
01:13:09,986 --> 01:13:12,252
Got back out, went back
to the same lifestyle...
1799
01:13:12,321 --> 01:13:15,323
♪ ♪
1800
01:13:15,525 --> 01:13:16,790
But even worse.
1801
01:13:16,859 --> 01:13:18,926
- Luger, or pfohl, as he's known,
1802
01:13:18,995 --> 01:13:20,861
Was arrested on dui charges,
open container,
1803
01:13:20,930 --> 01:13:23,464
No proof of insurance,
alteration of a tag
1804
01:13:23,533 --> 01:13:25,867
And an expired tag.
1805
01:13:26,069 --> 01:13:28,202
- Lex was all over the news in atlanta,
1806
01:13:28,270 --> 01:13:33,207
And it was just mind-boggling
to me how far he had fallen.
1807
01:13:33,409 --> 01:13:34,808
♪ ♪
1808
01:13:34,877 --> 01:13:35,943
- I was living out of a hotel room.
1809
01:13:36,011 --> 01:13:38,880
So all those mansions
and all that stuff,
1810
01:13:38,948 --> 01:13:41,215
There I was renting a hotel room.
1811
01:13:41,284 --> 01:13:44,618
Do my community service, and I'd do that during the day,
1812
01:13:44,687 --> 01:13:46,887
And go back and get high, and--
1813
01:13:46,956 --> 01:13:48,756
I wouldn't answer the phone for anybody--
1814
01:13:48,824 --> 01:13:50,758
My own family, my best friends.
1815
01:13:50,827 --> 01:13:53,294
Really, really dark
five-year period.
1816
01:13:53,362 --> 01:13:54,828
♪ ♪
1817
01:13:54,897 --> 01:13:56,030
There was moments
I didn't care whether
1818
01:13:56,232 --> 01:13:59,099
I woke up or not when it got--
things got really dark.
1819
01:13:59,168 --> 01:14:01,769
And my cell--I was in a small jail cell by myself.
1820
01:14:01,971 --> 01:14:04,572
I actually contemplated climbing up
1821
01:14:04,774 --> 01:14:06,908
To the top of the partition--
1822
01:14:06,976 --> 01:14:08,776
There was a real high ceiling
in there--
1823
01:14:08,844 --> 01:14:11,646
And standing up
on the partition,
1824
01:14:11,848 --> 01:14:12,780
Putting my hands
behind my back,
1825
01:14:12,849 --> 01:14:15,116
'cause everything
was cement in there,
1826
01:14:15,318 --> 01:14:17,985
And just falling head first, and maybe I could end it.
1827
01:14:20,923 --> 01:14:24,858
- I was the jail chaplain
for 28 years at
1828
01:14:24,927 --> 01:14:29,063
The cobb county adult detention center.
1829
01:14:29,131 --> 01:14:33,734
And he had been arrested
a few times, and he really--
1830
01:14:33,803 --> 01:14:36,204
In my opinion,
he looked beat down.
1831
01:14:36,406 --> 01:14:37,538
♪ ♪
1832
01:14:37,607 --> 01:14:39,273
And he was kinda scary.
1833
01:14:39,342 --> 01:14:41,475
♪ ♪
1834
01:14:41,544 --> 01:14:42,876
- He kept on trying
1835
01:14:42,945 --> 01:14:44,478
To knock on the window of my jail cell
1836
01:14:44,547 --> 01:14:45,680
And, "come see me."
1837
01:14:45,882 --> 01:14:49,083
I finally was so bored
I gave in.
1838
01:14:49,152 --> 01:14:52,486
He told me when I got out that wanted me to help him
1839
01:14:52,555 --> 01:14:54,889
Get in shape again.
1840
01:14:55,091 --> 01:14:59,694
- When he was released,
I found him at a gym.
1841
01:14:59,896 --> 01:15:03,097
At first, he tried
to get rid of me.
1842
01:15:03,165 --> 01:15:05,966
- I'm gonna make him so sore tomorrow at the gym
1843
01:15:06,035 --> 01:15:07,234
That he'll never set foot in the gym again.
1844
01:15:07,303 --> 01:15:09,770
♪ ♪
1845
01:15:09,838 --> 01:15:12,306
I couldn't get rid
of pastor steve.
1846
01:15:12,374 --> 01:15:13,908
♪ ♪
1847
01:15:13,977 --> 01:15:18,312
- So I began to just slowly win his trust.
1848
01:15:18,380 --> 01:15:19,914
♪ ♪
1849
01:15:19,982 --> 01:15:21,716
- And I kept on thinking,
man, he's never
1850
01:15:21,918 --> 01:15:22,850
Asked me to, like,
come to church.
1851
01:15:22,918 --> 01:15:24,986
And finally, he popped
the big question.
1852
01:15:25,054 --> 01:15:27,188
He wanted me to come
to a Sunday night service.
1853
01:15:27,390 --> 01:15:31,792
♪ ♪
1854
01:15:31,861 --> 01:15:33,860
And I went to this church service,
1855
01:15:33,930 --> 01:15:35,730
And there in the front of the church--
1856
01:15:35,932 --> 01:15:37,531
I never met him before in person--
1857
01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:39,199
But dr. Marvin j. Frady.
1858
01:15:39,268 --> 01:15:45,206
- And lex came to hear doc, my
husband of 64 beautiful years.
1859
01:15:45,408 --> 01:15:46,874
♪ ♪
1860
01:15:46,942 --> 01:15:49,143
And for the first time
ever in his life,
1861
01:15:49,211 --> 01:15:51,479
He came to our little church and sat on the back pew.
1862
01:15:51,681 --> 01:15:54,281
He was scared to death.
1863
01:15:54,350 --> 01:16:00,621
Doc preached on, is your house built on the rock or the sand?
1864
01:16:00,689 --> 01:16:02,222
- And man, did he hit me.
1865
01:16:02,292 --> 01:16:05,960
♪ ♪
1866
01:16:06,029 --> 01:16:09,630
That my whole life here, I'd been just frittering
1867
01:16:09,699 --> 01:16:11,098
It away on money and stuff.
1868
01:16:11,167 --> 01:16:14,768
And I was building my whole life on sinking sand.
1869
01:16:14,837 --> 01:16:15,703
I had a vision of all my mansions,
1870
01:16:15,771 --> 01:16:19,039
And money, and fame, and stuff,
1871
01:16:19,108 --> 01:16:21,308
And being on a beach, and it being washed away.
1872
01:16:21,377 --> 01:16:24,045
♪ ♪
1873
01:16:24,247 --> 01:16:26,246
That my life really had no true purpose or meaning.
1874
01:16:26,316 --> 01:16:28,715
♪ ♪
1875
01:16:28,784 --> 01:16:30,651
I went back to my
hotel that night.
1876
01:16:30,719 --> 01:16:31,719
Couldn't eat, couldn't sleep.
1877
01:16:31,787 --> 01:16:33,721
I called pastor steve up
and said,
1878
01:16:33,789 --> 01:16:35,789
"man, something happened
to me."
1879
01:16:35,858 --> 01:16:38,859
He came to my hotel room
April 23 of '06,
1880
01:16:38,928 --> 01:16:41,795
And shared the plan of
salvation with me,
1881
01:16:41,864 --> 01:16:42,863
The plan that god has
for all of us.
1882
01:16:43,066 --> 01:16:45,932
And I asked, "well, what do I gotta do?"
1883
01:16:46,002 --> 01:16:47,801
Just gotta get down
on your knees and pray.
1884
01:16:47,870 --> 01:16:48,202
I'd never done that in my life.
1885
01:16:48,404 --> 01:16:50,938
♪ ♪
1886
01:16:51,007 --> 01:16:53,874
When I got down on that
couch, I was weeping.
1887
01:16:53,943 --> 01:16:56,277
I had to make a full
commitment to come clean
1888
01:16:56,345 --> 01:17:00,814
And ask for forgiveness, and ask jesus to come in my heart.
1889
01:17:00,883 --> 01:17:04,352
- I actually saw,
when he prayed to jesus,
1890
01:17:04,554 --> 01:17:06,753
A physical change.
1891
01:17:06,822 --> 01:17:08,823
It was almost like
he was in pain.
1892
01:17:08,891 --> 01:17:11,692
- I felt instant peace
and serenity.
1893
01:17:11,894 --> 01:17:12,960
People ask, did
you feel anything?
1894
01:17:13,029 --> 01:17:15,763
I go, man, I felt like I kind
of got powerwashed
1895
01:17:15,832 --> 01:17:17,098
From inside out
by the holy spirit.
1896
01:17:17,166 --> 01:17:20,968
And I felt a peace and serenity
that I'd never felt
1897
01:17:21,037 --> 01:17:23,370
In my entire life, my first
47 years of my life,
1898
01:17:23,439 --> 01:17:24,705
At that moment.
1899
01:17:24,774 --> 01:17:27,841
And my life was
forever changed
1900
01:17:27,910 --> 01:17:30,311
In that moment forward,
in a good way.
1901
01:17:30,379 --> 01:17:32,179
♪ ♪
1902
01:17:32,248 --> 01:17:37,851
- And I could see something was
completely different in him.
1903
01:17:37,920 --> 01:17:41,588
I was able to literally baptize him
1904
01:17:41,657 --> 01:17:45,058
And watch his life change.
1905
01:17:45,127 --> 01:17:48,462
- It was a really powerful moment for steve and I.
1906
01:17:48,531 --> 01:17:50,798
We were reunited as now,
1907
01:17:51,000 --> 01:17:54,000
Not just friends,
but brothers in christ.
1908
01:17:54,070 --> 01:17:56,537
And the book of proverbs talks about how a friend
1909
01:17:56,739 --> 01:17:58,872
Is a friend at all times.
1910
01:17:58,941 --> 01:18:01,809
That describes my relationship
with sting.
1911
01:18:01,878 --> 01:18:03,677
- Lex, who is
the real total package?
1912
01:18:03,746 --> 01:18:06,680
- Hm, boy, after a long trip,
1913
01:18:06,749 --> 01:18:08,615
I found that,
praise the lord,
1914
01:18:08,685 --> 01:18:09,883
God is the real total package.
1915
01:18:09,952 --> 01:18:12,686
Now I'm a ambassador
and soldier for our lord
1916
01:18:12,755 --> 01:18:14,287
And savior, jesus christ,
and god.
1917
01:18:14,356 --> 01:18:16,424
[cheering]
1918
01:18:16,626 --> 01:18:17,992
I'm part of his team.
1919
01:18:19,829 --> 01:18:21,762
The first month
after I got saved,
1920
01:18:21,964 --> 01:18:24,698
I had, like, godly
remorse for my past.
1921
01:18:24,767 --> 01:18:26,767
And I knew what
real sorrow was.
1922
01:18:26,836 --> 01:18:27,835
I was, like, crying all the time
1923
01:18:27,904 --> 01:18:29,904
Until I talked to dr. Frady one time.
1924
01:18:30,106 --> 01:18:32,106
He said, "lex, you gotta let go of the past.
1925
01:18:32,174 --> 01:18:34,241
Those bells have been rung. You can unring 'em."
1926
01:18:34,310 --> 01:18:36,777
♪ ♪
1927
01:18:36,846 --> 01:18:38,112
I'm not talking
about the obviously
1928
01:18:38,180 --> 01:18:41,915
Negative things that affected
other people in my life.
1929
01:18:41,984 --> 01:18:44,584
I would never diminish
or disrespect that.
1930
01:18:44,653 --> 01:18:45,986
I understand their feelings.
1931
01:18:46,054 --> 01:18:49,256
But I had to forgive myself to move forward.
1932
01:18:49,325 --> 01:18:50,724
♪ ♪
1933
01:18:50,793 --> 01:18:53,527
When I look back on devastation
1934
01:18:53,596 --> 01:18:55,129
With my own children,
1935
01:18:55,331 --> 01:18:58,132
The relationship I don't have with them, understandable.
1936
01:18:58,201 --> 01:19:01,669
There's consequences for the things we did in the past.
1937
01:19:01,871 --> 01:19:03,604
I always hold out hope for that
1938
01:19:03,673 --> 01:19:05,939
In the future at some point,
1939
01:19:06,008 --> 01:19:08,209
Because they don't really know
their new dad.
1940
01:19:08,411 --> 01:19:14,882
♪ ♪
1941
01:19:15,084 --> 01:19:15,883
- After he had gotten
saved, and after he'd
1942
01:19:15,952 --> 01:19:21,222
Gone through this,
I was excited to see lex,
1943
01:19:21,290 --> 01:19:26,827
Because we're both going to be
at this show in san francisco.
1944
01:19:26,895 --> 01:19:29,563
The promoter called me,
and he said,
1945
01:19:29,765 --> 01:19:31,565
"can I meet you at lex's room?
1946
01:19:31,767 --> 01:19:33,367
He's had some kind of stroke."
1947
01:19:33,436 --> 01:19:34,001
I'm like, "what?"
1948
01:19:37,707 --> 01:19:41,041
- I had not seen lex in years.
1949
01:19:41,110 --> 01:19:47,848
And after elizabeth,
the drinking and the driving,
1950
01:19:48,050 --> 01:19:51,185
And arrests, I mean,
this is not lex luger.
1951
01:19:51,387 --> 01:19:54,855
After he had gotten saved and after he'd gone through this,
1952
01:19:54,924 --> 01:19:58,926
I was excited to see lex,
because we're both
1953
01:19:59,128 --> 01:20:01,862
Gonna be--so actually, there's, like, 80 guys
1954
01:20:02,064 --> 01:20:06,934
Going to be at this show in san francisco.
1955
01:20:07,136 --> 01:20:08,803
- He got on the plane and went from atlanta
1956
01:20:09,005 --> 01:20:11,872
To san francisco, five hour flight.
1957
01:20:11,941 --> 01:20:13,474
- I did a heavy
shoulder, trap and neck
1958
01:20:13,676 --> 01:20:14,741
Workout the night before.
1959
01:20:14,811 --> 01:20:16,610
I got in the airplane
with my head
1960
01:20:16,679 --> 01:20:18,546
Turned at an unusual angle.
1961
01:20:18,748 --> 01:20:21,815
- He was in conversation.
1962
01:20:21,884 --> 01:20:24,150
He had his neck craned
the whole time,
1963
01:20:24,220 --> 01:20:27,288
And at the end of the flight,
felt stiffness in his neck.
1964
01:20:27,356 --> 01:20:31,625
♪ ♪
1965
01:20:31,827 --> 01:20:34,094
- I woke up the next morning
1966
01:20:34,163 --> 01:20:36,630
With a stabbing, searing pain in my shoulder blades
1967
01:20:36,699 --> 01:20:39,032
And realized I couldn't move.
1968
01:20:39,101 --> 01:20:40,767
I didn't realize--I thought
maybe I was dehydrated.
1969
01:20:40,837 --> 01:20:43,837
I was paralyzed
from the neck down.
1970
01:20:43,906 --> 01:20:46,039
- I go down I grab,
you know, lex up,
1971
01:20:46,108 --> 01:20:48,775
And the other emt grabs him,
and we put him in there.
1972
01:20:48,845 --> 01:20:52,579
And didn't really notice
that he wasn't
1973
01:20:52,648 --> 01:20:54,715
Really being able to move.
1974
01:20:54,917 --> 01:20:55,983
- They're not sure
what caused it,
1975
01:20:56,052 --> 01:20:59,653
But there definitely was
massive swelling from my c5
1976
01:20:59,855 --> 01:21:01,655
And my cervical area
down to t5,
1977
01:21:01,724 --> 01:21:03,056
Which is about mid-chest level.
1978
01:21:03,125 --> 01:21:06,060
And they can't really explain
how it happened or why.
1979
01:21:06,262 --> 01:21:10,264
And they don't know whether
maybe some of the bone spurs
1980
01:21:10,332 --> 01:21:14,067
Pierced that central cord that we've got to keep protected.
1981
01:21:14,136 --> 01:21:18,071
They saw a little bit of spinal stenosis in there.
1982
01:21:18,140 --> 01:21:22,809
- The prognosis was he
couldn't move hardly anything.
1983
01:21:22,879 --> 01:21:25,946
They flew him to the shepherd center.
1984
01:21:26,148 --> 01:21:30,751
So for like a whole year, he lived in a bed.
1985
01:21:30,953 --> 01:21:32,686
- It was a scary thing to find out
1986
01:21:32,755 --> 01:21:34,487
That he was paralyzed
like that,
1987
01:21:34,556 --> 01:21:36,624
The way it went down.
1988
01:21:36,826 --> 01:21:37,491
And then to watch
his progress,
1989
01:21:37,560 --> 01:21:39,960
He came back over time.
1990
01:21:40,029 --> 01:21:41,962
And watching him do his therapy, you know,
1991
01:21:42,031 --> 01:21:44,431
I can remember in the very, very beginning
1992
01:21:44,500 --> 01:21:45,632
He was in a chair.
1993
01:21:45,701 --> 01:21:47,968
And they had him tied here,
1994
01:21:48,037 --> 01:21:52,840
And they had to untie him
for a few moments to--
1995
01:21:52,908 --> 01:21:54,041
I forget what they
were trying to do,
1996
01:21:54,110 --> 01:21:57,511
But I can remember he
literally fell uncontrollably,
1997
01:21:57,579 --> 01:21:58,646
Like this, forward.
1998
01:21:58,848 --> 01:21:59,780
And I reached out
to catch him,
1999
01:21:59,848 --> 01:22:02,716
And I put him back up
like this.
2000
01:22:02,785 --> 01:22:05,185
I literally fed
him with a fork...
2001
01:22:05,388 --> 01:22:07,788
♪ ♪
2002
01:22:07,857 --> 01:22:09,189
Because he couldn't feed himself.
2003
01:22:09,392 --> 01:22:10,390
♪ ♪
2004
01:22:10,459 --> 01:22:13,193
Unbelievable.
2005
01:22:13,396 --> 01:22:15,529
♪ ♪
2006
01:22:15,597 --> 01:22:17,731
- I was stunned by it.
2007
01:22:17,933 --> 01:22:19,466
He always had a great physique,
2008
01:22:19,668 --> 01:22:23,604
And it must have been
2009
01:22:23,806 --> 01:22:28,208
Such a challenge to overcome.
2010
01:22:28,276 --> 01:22:30,810
- I was like, lord, I don't know how to live this way.
2011
01:22:30,879 --> 01:22:32,812
So either bring me home to heaven
2012
01:22:32,881 --> 01:22:33,747
Or teach me how to live this way.
2013
01:22:33,816 --> 01:22:35,816
And man, he showed me the way.
2014
01:22:35,884 --> 01:22:38,886
He was the light through all that.
2015
01:22:38,954 --> 01:22:40,487
And I had really a miraculous recovery.
2016
01:22:40,556 --> 01:22:44,157
I'm not 100%, obviously.
2017
01:22:44,226 --> 01:22:46,493
I can live independently, and feed, and bathe myself,
2018
01:22:46,561 --> 01:22:48,762
And dress myself.
2019
01:22:48,831 --> 01:22:52,499
And I'm like--
there are 1% of people
2020
01:22:52,568 --> 01:22:54,968
With an injury like mine.
2021
01:22:55,037 --> 01:22:57,637
I never got the big muscles back, but still
2022
01:22:57,706 --> 01:23:00,107
Go to the gym a little bit.
2023
01:23:00,176 --> 01:23:02,309
I still love going in and mentoring the young guys.
2024
01:23:02,511 --> 01:23:03,577
At least six.
2025
01:23:03,645 --> 01:23:05,846
Let's get ten if you can.
2026
01:23:05,914 --> 01:23:07,981
- Lex started training
me in the gym.
2027
01:23:08,050 --> 01:23:10,317
He started giving me his personal workout plan
2028
01:23:10,519 --> 01:23:12,852
And what he ate.
2029
01:23:12,921 --> 01:23:15,055
- A lot of people made me who I was.
2030
01:23:15,123 --> 01:23:16,790
I maybe didn't have the appreciation back then
2031
01:23:16,858 --> 01:23:19,125
I should have,
but a lot of people
2032
01:23:19,194 --> 01:23:21,061
Worked with me, getting me
where I wanted to be in life.
2033
01:23:21,129 --> 01:23:23,997
I feel now I could work with guys like jonathan
2034
01:23:24,066 --> 01:23:25,665
And help them get to where they want in life.
2035
01:23:25,734 --> 01:23:28,202
Kinda like a life coach,
I guess.
2036
01:23:28,404 --> 01:23:31,004
♪ ♪
2037
01:23:31,073 --> 01:23:33,473
- Now he is trying to give back for everything
2038
01:23:33,542 --> 01:23:35,275
That he took or stole.
2039
01:23:35,344 --> 01:23:37,811
♪ ♪
2040
01:23:38,013 --> 01:23:40,480
- For 30 years, I was all about lex--
2041
01:23:40,549 --> 01:23:42,615
Me, myself, and I.
2042
01:23:42,684 --> 01:23:44,952
God has shown me personally
2043
01:23:45,020 --> 01:23:47,821
That our true strength comes through him,
2044
01:23:48,023 --> 01:23:51,224
From the inside out,
not from the outside in.
2045
01:23:51,293 --> 01:23:52,092
♪ ♪
2046
01:23:52,161 --> 01:23:54,094
- For a guy who took such pride
2047
01:23:54,163 --> 01:23:57,898
In his physique, and he
was such a physical specimen.
2048
01:23:57,966 --> 01:24:00,834
And now to be the opposite of that,
2049
01:24:00,903 --> 01:24:02,970
And then to be around wrestling fans--
2050
01:24:03,038 --> 01:24:05,906
In my mind, I thought, oh,
that must be hard.
2051
01:24:05,974 --> 01:24:09,843
And then I look at him, he's beaming!
2052
01:24:09,912 --> 01:24:11,912
- Great to see you!
- Good to see you.
2053
01:24:11,981 --> 01:24:15,048
- He is more cheerful and more friendly
2054
01:24:15,117 --> 01:24:17,784
Than he ever was when he was
making all that money,
2055
01:24:17,853 --> 01:24:19,853
When he looked like
a million dollars.
2056
01:24:20,055 --> 01:24:21,722
- If I knew now what god's taught me now,
2057
01:24:21,924 --> 01:24:22,523
I could have been a much better
2058
01:24:22,725 --> 01:24:24,858
Leader in the locker room.
2059
01:24:24,927 --> 01:24:25,792
I would have been a much better person
2060
01:24:25,861 --> 01:24:27,461
To be around, much more positive,
2061
01:24:27,663 --> 01:24:28,661
Much more encouraging.
2062
01:24:28,730 --> 01:24:31,465
I think about it all the time.
2063
01:24:31,667 --> 01:24:35,669
- Here he is, lex luger!
2064
01:24:35,738 --> 01:24:36,603
- Sometimes we don't realize
2065
01:24:36,672 --> 01:24:37,871
What we had until it's gone.
2066
01:24:37,940 --> 01:24:41,675
This is the finest physical specimen
2067
01:24:41,743 --> 01:24:43,610
In professional sports today.
2068
01:24:43,679 --> 01:24:44,812
Looking back on my career,
2069
01:24:45,014 --> 01:24:47,881
There's a lot of cool, defining moments
2070
01:24:48,083 --> 01:24:49,883
In my 15-year wrestling career, for sure.
2071
01:24:50,085 --> 01:24:52,085
- Lex luger has done it!
[cheers and applause]
2072
01:24:52,154 --> 01:24:55,155
- I think of some of my heroes
in the wrestling business,
2073
01:24:55,224 --> 01:24:57,824
There's very few that are on the same level that lex was.
2074
01:24:57,893 --> 01:24:59,960
- Nothing is gonna stop this man!
2075
01:25:00,029 --> 01:25:01,562
- I don't talk about him as being a tragedy,
2076
01:25:01,630 --> 01:25:02,830
'cause I see him now.
2077
01:25:03,032 --> 01:25:05,966
And I see this guy that is so humbled.
2078
01:25:06,034 --> 01:25:08,969
But I wish he hadn't had
to go through so much.
2079
01:25:09,171 --> 01:25:10,970
- Your heart breaks a little bit for somebody
2080
01:25:11,039 --> 01:25:12,038
That you know, and somebody that's a friend
2081
01:25:12,107 --> 01:25:14,241
That had to go through what he went through.
2082
01:25:14,309 --> 01:25:17,844
But on the other hand, he came
out of it stronger than ever.
2083
01:25:17,913 --> 01:25:20,781
- We staked our careers on never,
2084
01:25:20,849 --> 01:25:22,849
Ever backing away
from a challenge.
2085
01:25:22,918 --> 01:25:27,454
- His enthusiasm for life is remarkable.
2086
01:25:27,523 --> 01:25:29,923
I wanna be like that.
2087
01:25:29,992 --> 01:25:32,059
- There's a verse in the bible that said
2088
01:25:32,261 --> 01:25:33,860
"I finished the race. I have fought the good fight."
2089
01:25:33,929 --> 01:25:39,333
- This is the total package lex luger!
2090
01:25:40,068 --> 01:25:42,202
- I guess that's how
I'd like to be remembered.
2091
01:25:42,404 --> 01:25:47,007
♪ ♪
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