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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:04,872 --> 00:00:07,274 It's time for another edition of the Snake Pit, presented to you 2 00:00:07,341 --> 00:00:12,312 exclusively by Podcast Heat and AdFreeShows.com 3 00:00:12,379 --> 00:00:14,715 - Inside my Hall of Fame ring, it says, 4 00:00:14,781 --> 00:00:18,619 "Work ethic equals dreams." 5 00:00:18,719 --> 00:00:20,187 You can do it. 6 00:00:20,254 --> 00:00:21,989 Anything can happen. 7 00:00:22,055 --> 00:00:25,425 You gotta be positive, shake that-- off, 8 00:00:25,492 --> 00:00:27,361 and just keep moving forward. 9 00:00:27,427 --> 00:00:28,428 [crowd cheers] 10 00:00:28,562 --> 00:00:30,464 - He does the Diamond cutter and the place explodes. 11 00:00:30,464 --> 00:00:33,634 - My whole life, I believed in myself. 12 00:00:35,068 --> 00:00:36,036 - Everybody told him, 13 00:00:36,103 --> 00:00:38,071 "You're too old. You're too old. You're too old." 14 00:00:38,138 --> 00:00:41,708 - Even at 35-year-old with years, some hard years. 15 00:00:41,775 --> 00:00:44,311 - I actually told him, "Don't quit your day job." 16 00:00:44,378 --> 00:00:45,846 - I don't wanna be messing my hair. 17 00:00:45,913 --> 00:00:47,915 - The goal that everybody told we would never achieve, 18 00:00:47,981 --> 00:00:49,750 nobody but him believed could happen. 19 00:00:49,816 --> 00:00:52,586 - Underdog that he might be. 20 00:00:52,653 --> 00:00:55,822 He has became a major player. 21 00:00:55,822 --> 00:00:58,158 - He was right, and all the naysayers were wrong. 22 00:00:58,225 --> 00:00:58,992 [bell rings] 23 00:00:59,092 --> 00:01:00,160 - We got a new World Champion, guys, 24 00:01:00,227 --> 00:01:01,828 - And it's DDP. 25 00:01:01,895 --> 00:01:06,500 - Then, everything I worked for was gone. 26 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:07,434 - It was stressful. 27 00:01:07,501 --> 00:01:10,304 It was hard to make ends meet. 28 00:01:10,404 --> 00:01:12,406 - It doesn't matter what the adversity is, 29 00:01:12,472 --> 00:01:17,110 if you fall, get back up again. 30 00:01:17,110 --> 00:01:19,846 - He is so, and always has been so driven. 31 00:01:19,913 --> 00:01:20,948 - [grunts] 32 00:01:21,014 --> 00:01:22,950 - He just has such a strong work ethic. 33 00:01:22,950 --> 00:01:26,820 Growing up the way he did, he always had to work harder. 34 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:28,822 - 17. 35 00:01:28,889 --> 00:01:32,326 - I think his legacy is more outside of the ring, 36 00:01:32,392 --> 00:01:33,627 than it is inside the ring. 37 00:01:33,694 --> 00:01:36,063 - Bottom line is, it starts here, bro. 38 00:01:36,129 --> 00:01:37,297 I'm -- frustrated, man. 39 00:01:37,397 --> 00:01:39,299 I'm -- pissed off. 40 00:01:39,666 --> 00:01:41,234 - Dallas saved my life. 41 00:01:41,301 --> 00:01:42,269 - Ahh. 42 00:01:42,269 --> 00:01:43,170 [laughs] 43 00:01:43,236 --> 00:01:44,805 - Dallas just likes helping people. 44 00:01:44,871 --> 00:01:47,407 [applause] 45 00:01:47,474 --> 00:01:51,144 - If he needed me today, I would stop everything I'm doing, 46 00:01:51,244 --> 00:01:53,447 and I'll go wherever he at he need me. 47 00:01:53,513 --> 00:01:55,115 - It's all about pride. 48 00:01:55,182 --> 00:01:57,384 - You get whatever you want, as long as you help 49 00:01:57,384 --> 00:01:59,553 enough people get what they want. 50 00:02:01,154 --> 00:02:02,823 That's truest statement I've ever heard, 51 00:02:04,224 --> 00:02:05,425 and I live by it. 52 00:02:06,460 --> 00:02:15,669 ♪ 53 00:02:19,906 --> 00:02:21,208 - The old neighborhood. 54 00:02:21,274 --> 00:02:23,210 [laughs] 55 00:02:25,712 --> 00:02:29,449 I was born Page Joseph Falkinburg. 56 00:02:29,516 --> 00:02:32,686 April 5th, 1956 in Point Pleasant, New Jersey, 57 00:02:32,753 --> 00:02:34,788 down on the Jersey Shore. 58 00:02:35,422 --> 00:02:37,024 By the time I was three-years-old, 59 00:02:37,024 --> 00:02:40,427 my mom was married, divorced, and had three kids. 60 00:02:40,427 --> 00:02:43,463 My mom moved up to North Jersey to make more money, 61 00:02:43,463 --> 00:02:46,633 so she could help support the family. 62 00:02:46,700 --> 00:02:49,469 I went to live with my dad. 63 00:02:49,536 --> 00:02:52,572 My dad was, he was a hard worker. 64 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:58,111 He was a good guy, but he made bad decisions, 65 00:02:58,111 --> 00:03:00,247 and he liked to drink. 66 00:03:00,313 --> 00:03:02,182 He couldn't even spell the word "father" back then, 67 00:03:02,282 --> 00:03:03,984 let alone be one. 68 00:03:04,051 --> 00:03:07,754 So he brought me to my grandmother's house. 69 00:03:07,821 --> 00:03:09,990 That's where I grew up. 70 00:03:10,057 --> 00:03:11,658 - My grandmother brought us up. 71 00:03:11,758 --> 00:03:13,827 My mom was our dad, basically, 72 00:03:13,894 --> 00:03:16,063 because she took care of us financially. 73 00:03:16,063 --> 00:03:18,498 And my mom would come down, and she would make sure that 74 00:03:18,598 --> 00:03:20,834 everything was in order. 75 00:03:20,901 --> 00:03:23,503 - Once or twice a month, she would come down, 76 00:03:23,603 --> 00:03:26,840 didn't see her a lot, and my grandmother was there, 77 00:03:26,907 --> 00:03:30,911 but there wasn't a lot of parenting skills there. 78 00:03:30,977 --> 00:03:33,880 I pretty much raised myself. 79 00:03:35,148 --> 00:03:39,419 And when I was in school, when you can't read, 80 00:03:39,519 --> 00:03:43,056 the last thing you're gonna tell somebody is, "You can't read." 81 00:03:43,156 --> 00:03:47,694 I mean, I-I grew up with ADD and dyslexia, at a time when no one 82 00:03:47,794 --> 00:03:50,197 knew what the hell ADD or dyslexia was. 83 00:03:50,263 --> 00:03:52,199 They just thought we were stupid. 84 00:03:52,265 --> 00:03:55,001 And when you had everybody laughing at you, 85 00:03:55,068 --> 00:03:59,506 I'd get myself kicked outta the class before it got there. 86 00:03:59,606 --> 00:04:03,009 I didn't look at it as adversity, 87 00:04:03,076 --> 00:04:05,278 I just looked at it as life. 88 00:04:05,912 --> 00:04:11,551 Then, when I was in seventh grade, I got hit by a car. 89 00:04:11,618 --> 00:04:14,387 It hit my right knee, my face bounced off the hood, 90 00:04:14,454 --> 00:04:15,822 and I flew 42 feet- 91 00:04:15,822 --> 00:04:16,656 [chuckles] 92 00:04:16,756 --> 00:04:18,125 -from point of impact. 93 00:04:18,191 --> 00:04:20,393 So this was a serious knee injury. 94 00:04:20,460 --> 00:04:23,463 That was a life-changing experience, to say the least, 95 00:04:23,530 --> 00:04:27,801 because I was like, loved football, loved hockey, 96 00:04:27,868 --> 00:04:30,370 and they weren't gonna let me play that anymore. 97 00:04:30,437 --> 00:04:34,241 They weren't gonna let me play sports. 98 00:04:34,307 --> 00:04:36,209 That was the first part of someone telling me 99 00:04:36,276 --> 00:04:38,245 I can't do something. 100 00:04:39,446 --> 00:04:42,315 No one was gonna take athletics away from me. 101 00:04:43,350 --> 00:04:46,019 And I really believe that, that helped me develop 102 00:04:46,119 --> 00:04:51,024 a lot of the positivity, if you will, when it looks the darkest, 103 00:04:51,091 --> 00:04:55,061 I believe it really helped me start very young, telling them, 104 00:04:55,061 --> 00:04:59,065 "No, you're not gonna tell me what I can, or can't do." 105 00:04:59,065 --> 00:05:02,102 - Back then, and through his whole lifetime, 106 00:05:02,202 --> 00:05:05,906 everything always turns around for him, because not a quitter 107 00:05:06,006 --> 00:05:08,742 never was, never will be. 108 00:05:08,842 --> 00:05:09,910 [crowd cheers] 109 00:05:09,910 --> 00:05:13,346 - And the roar of the crowd now is for The Dream. 110 00:05:13,446 --> 00:05:16,449 It is for Mr. Dusty Rhodes. 111 00:05:17,717 --> 00:05:21,655 - When Page was younger, he loved wrestling. 112 00:05:21,755 --> 00:05:23,190 He watched it on TV. 113 00:05:23,256 --> 00:05:24,624 He fell in love with it. 114 00:05:24,624 --> 00:05:26,259 - Dusty Rhodes, Bruno Sammartino, 115 00:05:26,359 --> 00:05:29,062 and those bigger-than-life characters made me think, 116 00:05:29,062 --> 00:05:31,164 "I could do that." 117 00:05:31,231 --> 00:05:34,034 And one night after college, me and my buddy had gone 118 00:05:34,100 --> 00:05:37,470 to a wrestling match at Asbury Park Convention Center, 119 00:05:37,470 --> 00:05:40,707 and we were like, "We're gonna talk to somebody there. 120 00:05:40,807 --> 00:05:43,910 We're gonna find out how to get into wrestling." 121 00:05:43,910 --> 00:05:46,746 And I see Greg "The Hammer" Valentine. 122 00:05:46,846 --> 00:05:50,584 - Thus far, this match, pretty much all Greg Valentine. 123 00:05:50,584 --> 00:05:55,021 - I was out in the back of the Asbury Park Convention Center, 124 00:05:55,088 --> 00:05:58,124 and this skinny guy yells up at me, and says, 125 00:05:58,191 --> 00:05:59,726 "Hey, Greg Valentine." 126 00:05:59,793 --> 00:06:04,064 - Hey, Hammer, how do you get into professional wrestling? 127 00:06:04,130 --> 00:06:07,200 - Yeah, I said, "Go -- yourself." 128 00:06:08,635 --> 00:06:09,669 - He walked back inside. 129 00:06:09,769 --> 00:06:16,209 He was being a heel, but he was fascinating to me. 130 00:06:16,276 --> 00:06:18,945 - Next time, I won't accept gift any on here. 131 00:06:19,045 --> 00:06:21,514 - I thought, "Man, professional wrestling." 132 00:06:21,581 --> 00:06:24,484 This became my dream. 133 00:06:25,352 --> 00:06:28,221 So I go up to Jersey City twice a week to start 134 00:06:28,288 --> 00:06:30,223 learning how to wrestle. 135 00:06:30,223 --> 00:06:33,727 I would get so excited, but at one point I went over 136 00:06:33,793 --> 00:06:38,198 to the top rope and came down, and tweaked the hell 137 00:06:38,265 --> 00:06:41,167 outta my right knee, the same knee got hit by the car. 138 00:06:41,234 --> 00:06:42,269 [chuckles] 139 00:06:42,269 --> 00:06:45,505 The doctor's like, "You're done." 140 00:06:46,273 --> 00:06:52,045 So, at 23 in 1979, I don't have a job, 141 00:06:53,747 --> 00:06:56,716 and that's how I came in to the nightclub world. 142 00:06:59,119 --> 00:07:02,222 Started as a bouncer, and bartender. 143 00:07:02,289 --> 00:07:05,191 - Everybody knew Page, you know, he-he was large and in charge 144 00:07:05,258 --> 00:07:08,395 when he walked in the door, and he just knew 145 00:07:08,461 --> 00:07:10,230 how to bring people together. 146 00:07:10,297 --> 00:07:12,699 - And then, eventually, I get a call from my buddy, Tony Cafaro, 147 00:07:12,799 --> 00:07:13,967 and he says, 148 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:18,071 "Hey, I got this idea about a club in Fort Myers, Florida. 149 00:07:18,138 --> 00:07:21,007 I really want you to come down. 150 00:07:21,074 --> 00:07:22,609 You can run it. 151 00:07:22,676 --> 00:07:25,312 Norma Jean's Dance Club." 152 00:07:25,378 --> 00:07:27,480 And that place was crazy. 153 00:07:28,014 --> 00:07:30,817 - You've gotta remember, in the 1980s, 154 00:07:30,917 --> 00:07:34,387 Florida was synonymous with a good time. 155 00:07:34,454 --> 00:07:39,426 [Miami Vice theme song] 156 00:07:39,492 --> 00:07:42,429 - Miami Vice was the biggest show on television. 157 00:07:45,131 --> 00:07:48,902 When you thought about Florida and the nightlife scene, 158 00:07:49,002 --> 00:07:51,805 you thought about the biggest party in the country. 159 00:07:52,339 --> 00:07:56,676 - I'm not seen as a pill head or a drug addict, but I partied. 160 00:07:56,743 --> 00:08:01,715 One night, I did some cocaine, and that like scared me, 161 00:08:01,781 --> 00:08:06,219 and I thought, l "Mm, that -- wil own me." 162 00:08:06,319 --> 00:08:08,221 And I stopped. 163 00:08:08,288 --> 00:08:12,826 Still, it was the booze, the broads, and the party. 164 00:08:12,892 --> 00:08:17,831 I was a guy who looked like a rockstar, who ran a nightclub. 165 00:08:17,897 --> 00:08:21,868 And I was wearing my zebra skin boots and jeans 166 00:08:21,868 --> 00:08:23,303 with holes in it. 167 00:08:23,403 --> 00:08:25,905 Rock and roll T-shirt. 168 00:08:26,006 --> 00:08:27,207 And I said, 169 00:08:27,273 --> 00:08:29,476 "Can you imagine if I ever have a reason to dress like this?" 170 00:08:29,542 --> 00:08:32,078 [chuckles] 171 00:08:32,512 --> 00:08:34,914 And by this time, I'm not really even thinking 172 00:08:34,981 --> 00:08:36,049 about wrestling, but occasionally, 173 00:08:36,116 --> 00:08:39,619 I watch and then WrestleMania happened. 174 00:08:39,719 --> 00:08:42,255 [crowd cheers] 175 00:08:42,355 --> 00:08:45,024 The first guy to come through the curtain. 176 00:08:45,024 --> 00:08:47,660 I'm like, "Who is this guy?" 177 00:08:47,761 --> 00:08:51,564 - Jake "The Snake" Roberts. 178 00:08:53,099 --> 00:08:56,836 - I am totally sucked in. 179 00:08:56,903 --> 00:08:59,773 - Let's see what-- Oh, my goodness, 180 00:08:59,839 --> 00:09:01,674 look at that. 181 00:09:03,643 --> 00:09:09,449 - I was so bummed out that I did not continue 182 00:09:09,516 --> 00:09:11,484 following my dream. 183 00:09:12,352 --> 00:09:14,988 So one night I get in my club, go back to my office, 184 00:09:15,054 --> 00:09:17,624 I'm gonna get my keys, and I go to grab 'em. 185 00:09:17,690 --> 00:09:19,359 And there's two monitors there. 186 00:09:19,426 --> 00:09:23,363 And I look at the monitor, I'm like, "No way." 187 00:09:23,863 --> 00:09:26,466 Of course, it's Jake "The Snake" Roberts. 188 00:09:26,466 --> 00:09:29,469 I say, "Man, you Jake 'The Snake'?" 189 00:09:29,536 --> 00:09:32,372 "Who wants to know?" 190 00:09:32,439 --> 00:09:34,207 "The guy that runs this place." 191 00:09:34,274 --> 00:09:36,709 Said, "What are we drinking?" 192 00:09:36,776 --> 00:09:40,547 And me and Jake, we had a hell of time that night. 193 00:09:42,582 --> 00:09:46,386 And he would later, you know, best friends with DiBiase and 194 00:09:46,453 --> 00:09:48,955 The Bushwhackers, and-and he told the boys like, 195 00:09:49,022 --> 00:09:51,524 "Hey, you got some guy there, cool dude, 196 00:09:51,591 --> 00:09:52,625 you won't pay for anything." 197 00:09:52,692 --> 00:09:53,827 [laughs] 198 00:09:53,893 --> 00:09:56,830 - And we went into this bar, and this wild character 199 00:09:56,896 --> 00:09:58,698 was in there running the place. 200 00:09:58,798 --> 00:10:00,800 And he goes, "Man, I love the wrestling business. 201 00:10:00,867 --> 00:10:02,068 Someday I wanna be in it." 202 00:10:02,068 --> 00:10:04,404 I'm thinking, "You're my age. 203 00:10:04,471 --> 00:10:07,240 I'm on my way out, and you're not even in it yet." 204 00:10:08,074 --> 00:10:11,444 - At 30-years-old, being around those guys, it really started 205 00:10:11,511 --> 00:10:16,483 getting my mind thinking, "Man, you really blew it. 206 00:10:17,650 --> 00:10:19,285 You-you could have been a part of this." 207 00:10:22,856 --> 00:10:25,358 - Norma Jean's is the place to go. 208 00:10:25,425 --> 00:10:28,595 It's the hottest club from Sarasota to Cuba. 209 00:10:29,596 --> 00:10:32,432 - One night out with my girlfriends, I decided to go 210 00:10:32,499 --> 00:10:36,636 to this hot nightclub that everybody was going to, 211 00:10:36,703 --> 00:10:40,874 and this huge hulk of a man walked in, 212 00:10:40,940 --> 00:10:43,643 and asked if he could buy me a drink. 213 00:10:44,110 --> 00:10:49,949 - Kimberly and I started dating, and the guy who was not 214 00:10:50,016 --> 00:10:54,387 a faithful dude to anyone, became very faithful. 215 00:10:54,454 --> 00:10:58,591 One year to the day, I asked her to marry me. 216 00:10:59,292 --> 00:11:02,061 - He did live a very rockstar lifestyle in the nightclub 217 00:11:02,162 --> 00:11:05,865 business, but I thought, "He's a hustler. 218 00:11:05,865 --> 00:11:07,800 He's gonna make things happen. 219 00:11:07,867 --> 00:11:11,571 I know he's going to be successful whatever he's doing." 220 00:11:12,272 --> 00:11:14,674 - So, here's Page, newly married. 221 00:11:14,674 --> 00:11:18,444 And even though he's successful in the nightlife industry, 222 00:11:18,511 --> 00:11:22,048 he can't get out of his head this dream of being 223 00:11:22,115 --> 00:11:24,150 a professional wrestler. 224 00:11:24,784 --> 00:11:27,787 - So, one night at my club at closing time, 225 00:11:27,787 --> 00:11:30,557 I've been drinking, and we're all doing shots. 226 00:11:30,623 --> 00:11:35,161 And while we were in my office, I thought, "I'm 31 and a half. 227 00:11:35,228 --> 00:11:37,964 Too old to be a wrestler, but maybe-maybe 228 00:11:38,031 --> 00:11:40,266 I could be a manager. 229 00:11:40,333 --> 00:11:42,468 I could be Diamond Dallas Page, 230 00:11:42,468 --> 00:11:45,438 and I could have the Diamond Exchange." 231 00:11:46,072 --> 00:11:49,008 And I'm just writing that down, doodling it. 232 00:11:49,075 --> 00:11:50,743 That's what makes me think of it. 233 00:11:52,178 --> 00:11:54,681 And at the end of the night, you know, we're getting ready 234 00:11:54,747 --> 00:11:58,918 to leave, and I said, "You know, it's possible." 235 00:12:00,787 --> 00:12:03,323 - Good God, now to the end of February, Norma Jean's Café 236 00:12:03,389 --> 00:12:04,357 there's a special-- 237 00:12:04,424 --> 00:12:07,260 I did all of our radio commercials. 238 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:09,796 I get a call from the local cable network that wanna 239 00:12:09,862 --> 00:12:13,666 do a story on the guy behind the voice. 240 00:12:13,666 --> 00:12:15,468 I want it, but it isn't just the commercials, the voice, 241 00:12:15,568 --> 00:12:16,869 the writing of the ideas. 242 00:12:16,936 --> 00:12:18,972 If we can't get it across from our people-- 243 00:12:19,038 --> 00:12:20,039 They say to me, 244 00:12:20,106 --> 00:12:22,609 "So where does the voice come from?" 245 00:12:22,675 --> 00:12:25,912 And I grabbed those sunglasses and I put them on, and I said, 246 00:12:25,912 --> 00:12:28,481 "I was born to be a professional wrestling manager." 247 00:12:28,548 --> 00:12:29,582 That's right. 248 00:12:29,682 --> 00:12:30,984 Diamond Dallas Page is where the voice comes from. 249 00:12:31,050 --> 00:12:31,985 It speaks-- 250 00:12:32,051 --> 00:12:33,586 You never know who's watching. 251 00:12:34,220 --> 00:12:36,389 I get a call from the AWA. 252 00:12:36,456 --> 00:12:38,992 There's a void for a young manager. 253 00:12:39,826 --> 00:12:45,598 - The AWA sees this character, and mistakenly think, 254 00:12:45,665 --> 00:12:48,868 he's in the world of professional wrestling. 255 00:12:48,968 --> 00:12:52,272 - They said, "Dallas, we're gonna give you a tryout." 256 00:12:52,272 --> 00:12:53,906 I couldn't believe it. 257 00:12:54,474 --> 00:12:57,844 - That's when I thought about the risk, because I thought, 258 00:12:57,910 --> 00:12:59,879 if he's really gonna do this, 259 00:12:59,946 --> 00:13:02,949 this is a crazy industry to be going into. 260 00:13:03,016 --> 00:13:04,183 - You got it, dude. 261 00:13:04,183 --> 00:13:06,185 MTV is looking to stand a wrestling world on its ear. 262 00:13:06,252 --> 00:13:08,121 We're looking for the-- 263 00:13:08,187 --> 00:13:11,391 - Next thing you know, I am Diamond Dallas Page. 264 00:13:11,691 --> 00:13:12,759 [chuckles] 265 00:13:12,825 --> 00:13:16,562 I'm being walked to the ring by the Diamond Doll. 266 00:13:16,629 --> 00:13:19,465 - Give me that microphone, L-L-L-Larry. 267 00:13:19,465 --> 00:13:23,269 - Then, I get a call from Mike Graham. 268 00:13:23,336 --> 00:13:26,005 He goes, "I'm sitting here with Dusty Rhodes. 269 00:13:26,072 --> 00:13:29,909 He's left WWE and he's coming to WCW to work. 270 00:13:29,909 --> 00:13:31,344 I wanna put you on the phone with him. 271 00:13:31,444 --> 00:13:34,347 I want you to blow him away like it's the biggest mark ever." 272 00:13:34,447 --> 00:13:39,886 - Dusty took an interest in Dallas because he saw something. 273 00:13:39,952 --> 00:13:43,022 - "Mike, Mike, Mike, I've-I've got strep throat." 274 00:13:43,089 --> 00:13:44,524 "You're on." 275 00:13:44,590 --> 00:13:47,860 I had nothing prepared, but I knew Dusty's stuff. 276 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:50,596 "Good God. Dusty Rhodes, the tower of power, 277 00:13:50,663 --> 00:13:52,065 the man of the hour." 278 00:13:52,131 --> 00:13:56,669 Did like this 40 second rant. 279 00:13:56,669 --> 00:14:02,709 And then you hear that voice, "Was that a recording kid?" 280 00:14:02,775 --> 00:14:04,911 I said, "No, Dusty. That was me." 281 00:14:04,911 --> 00:14:07,513 He goes, "All right, we're gonna talk about some business." 282 00:14:07,513 --> 00:14:09,315 [crowd cheers] 283 00:14:09,382 --> 00:14:13,086 - Big Daddy D and Chairman of the Board of the Diamond 284 00:14:13,152 --> 00:14:17,123 Exchange, Diamond Dallas Page. 285 00:14:17,190 --> 00:14:21,461 - His dream finally started to come true well into adulthood. 286 00:14:21,561 --> 00:14:22,695 - I got all my ducks in a row. 287 00:14:22,795 --> 00:14:23,796 I'm gonna-- 288 00:14:23,863 --> 00:14:25,298 - When he made his way to WCW, fortunately, 289 00:14:25,398 --> 00:14:27,867 they stuck him with Scott Hall. 290 00:14:27,934 --> 00:14:30,670 - I felt like I was pretty sound and had a pretty good physique, 291 00:14:30,670 --> 00:14:35,374 and stuff like that, but I didn't have a marketable look. 292 00:14:35,441 --> 00:14:37,076 - I pick up the phone and I call, and I go, 293 00:14:37,143 --> 00:14:39,946 "Bro, you gotta get rid of that mustache." 294 00:14:40,046 --> 00:14:41,748 I took him to my hairdresser. 295 00:14:41,848 --> 00:14:43,950 He showed up. 296 00:14:43,950 --> 00:14:45,818 He looked like a damn movie star. 297 00:14:45,918 --> 00:14:51,124 - 293 pounds, the D-D-D-Diamond Stud. 298 00:14:51,190 --> 00:14:52,959 - And from there big things happened. 299 00:14:53,025 --> 00:14:54,227 Turned out to be great for me. 300 00:14:54,227 --> 00:14:55,828 Life changing. 301 00:14:55,895 --> 00:14:57,430 So, thank you, Dallas. 302 00:14:57,497 --> 00:15:00,099 - He's Diamond Dallas Page. 303 00:15:00,199 --> 00:15:01,267 - And you're not. 304 00:15:01,367 --> 00:15:03,002 See ya. 305 00:15:03,069 --> 00:15:04,570 - I'm living the dream right now. 306 00:15:04,637 --> 00:15:05,838 I'm thinking I'm on fire. 307 00:15:05,905 --> 00:15:07,440 - I don't want to be messing up my hair. 308 00:15:07,507 --> 00:15:09,142 Good God. 309 00:15:09,242 --> 00:15:11,611 - There's this kind of a fulfillment of a dream for him, 310 00:15:11,677 --> 00:15:13,412 so I was supportive. 311 00:15:13,479 --> 00:15:17,383 But, again, I knew that it was-- It's a rough racket. 312 00:15:19,519 --> 00:15:20,987 - Welcome back to Worldwide Wrestling. 313 00:15:20,987 --> 00:15:23,823 Magnum TA, here with two real characters. 314 00:15:23,823 --> 00:15:27,226 - Magnum TA was a former wrestler that was now 315 00:15:27,226 --> 00:15:29,562 in a management role in WCW. 316 00:15:29,629 --> 00:15:32,965 - Magnum pulls me into the office of TV. 317 00:15:33,032 --> 00:15:36,035 He said, "Listen, we can't let you manage anymore." 318 00:15:38,738 --> 00:15:39,906 I said, "Did I do something? 319 00:15:40,006 --> 00:15:40,840 He said, "No." 320 00:15:40,940 --> 00:15:42,675 He goes- he goes, "It's not your fault. 321 00:15:42,742 --> 00:15:47,280 It's the hair, the clothes, the bling, the wrap, the dolls. 322 00:15:47,346 --> 00:15:49,882 When you're out there, you're taking too much attention 323 00:15:49,949 --> 00:15:51,017 away from the wrestlers. 324 00:15:51,117 --> 00:15:53,152 And they're the ones who draw the money." 325 00:15:53,219 --> 00:15:55,822 I'm like, "Magnum, are you telling me I'm too over the top 326 00:15:55,888 --> 00:15:58,624 for professional wrestling?" 327 00:15:58,691 --> 00:16:01,561 So, now, everything I worked for was gone. 328 00:16:05,431 --> 00:16:09,735 - I think everything that happened to me along the way, 329 00:16:09,802 --> 00:16:12,371 from not being able, to read to bouncing around 330 00:16:12,438 --> 00:16:18,277 from one family to another, to raising myself most of the time, 331 00:16:18,344 --> 00:16:23,583 it taught me that, it doesn't matter what the adversity is, 332 00:16:23,683 --> 00:16:27,987 you just have to keep moving forward. 333 00:16:28,387 --> 00:16:32,191 If you fall, get back up again. 334 00:16:33,392 --> 00:16:38,598 So, at 35 and a half, I said, 335 00:16:38,664 --> 00:16:41,434 "I'm gonna become a professional wrestler." 336 00:16:42,268 --> 00:16:44,971 No one starts at that age. 337 00:16:46,072 --> 00:16:47,240 I moved to Atlanta. 338 00:16:49,008 --> 00:16:50,877 Next day, I started at the Power plant. 339 00:16:53,446 --> 00:16:56,716 [background conversation] 340 00:16:56,782 --> 00:16:58,384 - He worked out at the same gym I did. 341 00:16:58,451 --> 00:17:02,622 I actually told him, "Man, don't quit your day job." 342 00:17:02,722 --> 00:17:05,625 [background conversation] 343 00:17:05,691 --> 00:17:06,559 - He's in his 30s. 344 00:17:06,626 --> 00:17:07,760 Who starts wrestling in their 30s? 345 00:17:07,827 --> 00:17:09,362 It's a young man's game. 346 00:17:09,629 --> 00:17:11,664 - The challenges that lie before him were, 347 00:17:11,731 --> 00:17:13,833 I thought, unnavigable. 348 00:17:13,900 --> 00:17:17,036 I thought, "There's no way this guy can do it." 349 00:17:17,670 --> 00:17:18,838 - I thought to myself, 350 00:17:18,938 --> 00:17:23,876 "Man, I got a long way to go and it's gonna be a long, hard road. 351 00:17:23,943 --> 00:17:27,113 And I'm not making any money." 352 00:17:27,113 --> 00:17:28,481 - It was stressful. 353 00:17:28,548 --> 00:17:33,886 We, um-- yeah, it was hard to make ends meet. 354 00:17:33,953 --> 00:17:36,822 - Five months in, and Kimberly, she was like, 355 00:17:36,923 --> 00:17:38,991 "You need to go back into the bar business. 356 00:17:39,058 --> 00:17:42,995 Like things are getting really tight." 357 00:17:43,062 --> 00:17:46,165 And that's where that inner voice, like, 358 00:17:46,232 --> 00:17:50,236 "Yes, I am gonna be one of the top guys in this business." 359 00:17:50,303 --> 00:17:53,472 That was the story I was telling myself. 360 00:17:53,539 --> 00:17:58,711 And then one day at the Power Plant, I hear, "Page?" 361 00:17:58,711 --> 00:18:03,049 and I turn around and it's Jake "The Snake" Roberts. 362 00:18:05,785 --> 00:18:08,821 He's with WWE. 363 00:18:08,921 --> 00:18:13,726 And he's moving into the territory. 364 00:18:15,094 --> 00:18:18,631 By this time, Jake was battling demons. 365 00:18:19,932 --> 00:18:23,569 - All I cared about was getting my next high. 366 00:18:23,636 --> 00:18:28,374 You know, that's what drug addicts do. 367 00:18:28,841 --> 00:18:31,911 - But Jake, I thought I could help him just, you know, 368 00:18:31,911 --> 00:18:36,882 just to be on a healthier- healthier journey in his life. 369 00:18:36,949 --> 00:18:38,184 That's what I said. 370 00:18:38,184 --> 00:18:39,585 "Listen, I'm gonna talk to Kimberly and see if she'll let 371 00:18:39,652 --> 00:18:42,388 you, uh, take the bedroom we have downstairs 372 00:18:42,388 --> 00:18:44,523 until you find a place." 373 00:18:45,024 --> 00:18:46,525 So, he stayed with us. 374 00:18:46,592 --> 00:18:48,828 "I don't wanna be the booze police. 375 00:18:48,894 --> 00:18:50,630 You know, I just wanna be your friend." 376 00:18:51,864 --> 00:18:56,435 - As DDP is trying to figure out how he can get back into 377 00:18:56,435 --> 00:19:00,673 the industry, that same industry is kind of pushing out 378 00:19:00,673 --> 00:19:02,241 Jake "The Snake" Roberts. 379 00:19:02,308 --> 00:19:05,711 And-and those two paths come together. 380 00:19:05,778 --> 00:19:10,116 But the ultimate irony is that Jake "The Snake" Roberts 381 00:19:10,116 --> 00:19:15,187 is one of the guys that DDP had idolized for years 382 00:19:15,187 --> 00:19:17,390 leading up to this. 383 00:19:18,791 --> 00:19:23,195 And now he's-he's crashing in DDP's basement. 384 00:19:23,596 --> 00:19:27,566 - He was bad, but wasn't anywhere near as bad 385 00:19:27,633 --> 00:19:31,604 as he would get decades later. 386 00:19:33,672 --> 00:19:37,743 - When Jake came to stay, Jake and Dallas, 387 00:19:37,843 --> 00:19:40,713 they'd spent a lot of time staying up late, 388 00:19:40,713 --> 00:19:43,549 watching Jake's wrestling videos, rehearsing things. 389 00:19:43,649 --> 00:19:46,619 [crowd cheers] 390 00:19:46,719 --> 00:19:47,186 - DDT. 391 00:19:47,253 --> 00:19:47,753 - No. 392 00:19:47,820 --> 00:19:48,788 - Look at that. 393 00:19:48,788 --> 00:19:50,856 - I'm going to teach you psychology 394 00:19:50,956 --> 00:19:53,659 I'm gonna teach you timing. 395 00:19:53,759 --> 00:19:56,662 Either you're gonna do it right, or you're not. 396 00:19:57,063 --> 00:19:59,465 - Even with Jake "The Snake" falling on hard times, the 397 00:19:59,465 --> 00:20:05,404 mastery that Jake "The Snake" Roberts had for this industry, 398 00:20:05,471 --> 00:20:08,574 was able to be passed into DDP. 399 00:20:08,641 --> 00:20:11,477 - He said, "You'll learn more sitting on the couch with me, 400 00:20:11,544 --> 00:20:14,113 than you ever will in the ring with me." 401 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:17,917 - There was nobody on his side other than me. 402 00:20:17,983 --> 00:20:19,718 Everybody told him, "You're too old, you're too old, 403 00:20:19,785 --> 00:20:21,487 you're too old, you're too old." 404 00:20:21,554 --> 00:20:24,223 But they didn't see what I saw. 405 00:20:24,290 --> 00:20:25,758 I seen how hard he worked. 406 00:20:25,825 --> 00:20:27,860 Nobody worked harder than him. 407 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:29,862 I mean, nobody. 408 00:20:30,162 --> 00:20:32,264 - Come on. 409 00:20:32,264 --> 00:20:33,833 There you go. 410 00:20:33,899 --> 00:20:35,234 - It's the Power Plant. 411 00:20:35,301 --> 00:20:36,769 I'm getting a little bit farther, a little bit farther, 412 00:20:36,836 --> 00:20:39,672 a little bit farther. 413 00:20:39,672 --> 00:20:44,110 - That's when DDP gets the call from WCW. 414 00:20:44,176 --> 00:20:49,715 He now has a second chance as a 35-year-old rookie wrestler. 415 00:20:52,017 --> 00:20:54,887 [DDP's music plays] 416 00:20:54,954 --> 00:20:57,623 - Ladies and gentlemen, making his way to the ring area, 417 00:20:57,623 --> 00:21:01,594 Diamond Dallas Page. 418 00:21:02,962 --> 00:21:07,800 - At that point, Eric Bischoff is the Executive Producer. 419 00:21:07,867 --> 00:21:09,635 Well, first of all, Bischoff, I could see where you would 420 00:21:09,635 --> 00:21:13,439 be totally lost without me, but I told you for months. 421 00:21:13,506 --> 00:21:16,175 - With Page, you know, I had been watching this character 422 00:21:16,242 --> 00:21:19,311 struggle to kind of find his footing. 423 00:21:19,311 --> 00:21:22,815 - He had sunglasses on, he had girls, he had a mink coat 424 00:21:22,882 --> 00:21:23,849 a cigar in his mouth. 425 00:21:23,916 --> 00:21:27,553 I'm going, "I don't know what this guy is." 426 00:21:27,620 --> 00:21:30,589 - The audience wasn't getting with him at all. 427 00:21:30,656 --> 00:21:32,191 - Wooo. 428 00:21:34,293 --> 00:21:37,163 - Look at where DDP was at that time. 429 00:21:37,229 --> 00:21:38,898 He had already gotten a crack as a manager. 430 00:21:38,998 --> 00:21:42,334 If it doesn't work this time, 431 00:21:42,401 --> 00:21:46,071 there's simply nothing left for him. 432 00:21:47,273 --> 00:21:49,008 - And one day I just-- I-I said, 433 00:21:49,074 --> 00:21:51,477 "Page, you gotta lose the gimmicks, man. 434 00:21:51,544 --> 00:21:54,914 You gotta be you. Just be you." 435 00:21:54,914 --> 00:21:56,949 - This is a different kind of Diamond Dallas Page 436 00:21:57,049 --> 00:21:59,952 that we've been seeing coming out week-after-week. 437 00:22:00,019 --> 00:22:04,390 - That's where fans started to see there's a human in there. 438 00:22:04,456 --> 00:22:06,625 - It's all about pride. 439 00:22:06,692 --> 00:22:08,727 When Page Joseph Falkinburg stopped trying to be 440 00:22:08,794 --> 00:22:11,864 Diamond Dallas Page, and Diamond Dallas Page 441 00:22:11,864 --> 00:22:13,766 started taking on the characteristics 442 00:22:13,832 --> 00:22:15,467 of Page Joseph Falkinburg-- 443 00:22:15,568 --> 00:22:17,036 nobody but nobody 444 00:22:17,102 --> 00:22:21,273 in World Championship Wrestling has worked harder than I have. 445 00:22:21,273 --> 00:22:23,042 That's when my career started to take off. 446 00:22:24,176 --> 00:22:26,111 - Diamond Dallas Page is much better than we've seen him. 447 00:22:26,111 --> 00:22:28,714 - And it's a Diamond Cutter outta nowhere. 448 00:22:28,781 --> 00:22:29,682 - The Diamond Cutter. 449 00:22:29,748 --> 00:22:30,883 - See ya. 450 00:22:30,950 --> 00:22:32,785 - I was getting this over, man. 451 00:22:32,785 --> 00:22:33,686 - Oh, he got the Cutter. 452 00:22:33,752 --> 00:22:34,587 - He just kept getting better and better 453 00:22:34,587 --> 00:22:36,121 and better and better. 454 00:22:36,188 --> 00:22:38,357 - This guy is electrifying. 455 00:22:38,424 --> 00:22:40,426 - Grand slam dunk. 456 00:22:40,426 --> 00:22:43,195 Somebody stop me. 457 00:22:46,098 --> 00:22:49,368 At this point, I really want to be a top guy. 458 00:22:49,435 --> 00:22:52,872 And one night, I see Dusty and I said, 459 00:22:52,938 --> 00:22:56,008 "Uh, you know, Dream, I know I'm never gonna be you. 460 00:22:56,075 --> 00:22:58,410 I know I'm never gonna be the World Champion." 461 00:22:58,477 --> 00:23:00,913 He's like, "What the hell are you doing it for? 462 00:23:00,913 --> 00:23:04,783 Dallas, if you are as hard as you work, as far as you come, 463 00:23:04,850 --> 00:23:06,418 if you don't believe you could be the World Champion, 464 00:23:06,518 --> 00:23:09,355 you need to get the hell out of our business right now." 465 00:23:09,421 --> 00:23:11,590 - During that period in the '90s, my dad was like a mentor 466 00:23:11,657 --> 00:23:13,959 to a lot of different up-and-coming wrestlers, 467 00:23:14,026 --> 00:23:17,129 but I think Dallas was probably his number one. 468 00:23:18,063 --> 00:23:20,599 - So I can tell you exactly what I did. 469 00:23:20,666 --> 00:23:24,603 There's a phone, a ledger pad, and I wrote on it, 470 00:23:24,670 --> 00:23:29,174 "I will be the World Champion in five years or less." 471 00:23:30,910 --> 00:23:35,714 [crowd chants "Hogan"] 472 00:23:35,781 --> 00:23:38,751 And then Hulk comes into the company and one night, 473 00:23:38,817 --> 00:23:41,186 Hulk grabs me, and he pulls me over. 474 00:23:41,253 --> 00:23:42,788 He says, "How are you doing it? 475 00:23:42,855 --> 00:23:45,824 How are you getting so much better?" 476 00:23:46,492 --> 00:23:49,928 - Once he got, you know, his feet wet, he figured it out. 477 00:23:49,995 --> 00:23:52,498 And he pushed so hard. 478 00:23:52,598 --> 00:23:55,034 The people dig him now. 479 00:23:55,634 --> 00:23:57,670 Didn't understand this guy. 480 00:23:57,670 --> 00:23:59,605 Now, I get it. 481 00:23:59,672 --> 00:24:02,841 There's main event potential there with this guy. 482 00:24:02,908 --> 00:24:04,109 [crowd cheers] 483 00:24:04,176 --> 00:24:05,711 - And he said, "Whatever you're doing, you need to keep doing 484 00:24:05,711 --> 00:24:10,749 it, 'cause somewhere down the line, you have the ability 485 00:24:10,749 --> 00:24:13,085 to draw huge money with me." 486 00:24:13,152 --> 00:24:15,020 And he walked away. 487 00:24:15,120 --> 00:24:17,323 I was like, "Holy --." 488 00:24:17,389 --> 00:24:21,160 So now it's Jake "The Snake" Roberts, Dusty Rhodes, 489 00:24:21,226 --> 00:24:25,130 and Hulk Hogan are telling me I have the ability to, 490 00:24:25,130 --> 00:24:25,230 and Hulk Hogan are telling me I have the ability to, 491 00:24:26,231 --> 00:24:27,766 at some point, be a top performer in our business. 492 00:24:29,601 --> 00:24:31,236 That's powerful. 493 00:24:38,544 --> 00:24:42,614 - I collected so much of my memorabilia over the years. 494 00:24:42,681 --> 00:24:44,350 It's like show and tell. 495 00:24:44,450 --> 00:24:47,086 This is when I'm managing Scott Hall. 496 00:24:47,152 --> 00:24:50,389 Kevin Nash, and Scott, both of those guys were 497 00:24:50,389 --> 00:24:53,826 so instrumental in my life. 498 00:24:53,826 --> 00:24:56,595 Me helping them, and them helping me. 499 00:24:58,030 --> 00:25:01,600 - Years before, Scott Hall and Kevin Nash got their start 500 00:25:01,667 --> 00:25:05,070 in WCW alongside DDP. 501 00:25:05,070 --> 00:25:10,876 And once joining Hulk Hogan, they created the NWO, 502 00:25:10,876 --> 00:25:14,880 one of the biggest acts that pro wrestling has ever seen. 503 00:25:17,049 --> 00:25:21,587 - By that time, you're watching Page's career ascend, right? 504 00:25:21,587 --> 00:25:23,355 He's getting more and more popular. 505 00:25:23,422 --> 00:25:26,358 - He got the Diamond Cutter and the place explodes. 506 00:25:26,425 --> 00:25:30,195 - But the moment that put him over the top was when 507 00:25:30,262 --> 00:25:34,967 Scott Hall, Kevin Nash, it was their idea to bring him in, 508 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:36,268 be a part of the NWO. 509 00:25:36,368 --> 00:25:43,375 - You, my friend, can be NWO for life. 510 00:25:43,876 --> 00:25:48,313 - The bookers really didn't see me as that top guy, 511 00:25:48,380 --> 00:25:51,350 but Kevin and Scott, they're the ones who 512 00:25:51,450 --> 00:25:53,986 fought for-for it for me. 513 00:25:53,986 --> 00:25:55,721 [crowd cheers] 514 00:25:55,788 --> 00:25:57,423 - The welcome wagon, if you will. 515 00:25:57,523 --> 00:25:59,024 [chuckles] 516 00:25:59,091 --> 00:26:03,395 - Going out to officially welcome DDP aboard. 517 00:26:03,462 --> 00:26:06,565 - I put the shirt on, Scottie high-fived me 518 00:26:06,632 --> 00:26:08,367 and as he pulls away. 519 00:26:08,434 --> 00:26:09,468 Bang. 520 00:26:09,568 --> 00:26:10,235 [crowd cheers] 521 00:26:10,235 --> 00:26:11,036 - Hey. 522 00:26:11,036 --> 00:26:11,737 - Whoa. 523 00:26:11,804 --> 00:26:12,638 - No. 524 00:26:12,738 --> 00:26:14,173 - No, no, I can't believe what I'm seeing. 525 00:26:14,239 --> 00:26:16,909 - He got to Scott and I turned around, and I go through 526 00:26:17,009 --> 00:26:19,111 the table that was on the floor. 527 00:26:19,178 --> 00:26:20,913 - This man is out of his mind. 528 00:26:20,913 --> 00:26:24,116 [crowd cheers] 529 00:26:24,116 --> 00:26:29,354 - He walks with the crowd, and a star is born. 530 00:26:29,421 --> 00:26:32,124 [crowd cheers] 531 00:26:32,191 --> 00:26:34,426 - And the audience was telling me loud and clear, 532 00:26:34,426 --> 00:26:36,829 this guy's a main eventer. 533 00:26:36,829 --> 00:26:39,598 - It felt really good 'cause it was kind of our idea, 534 00:26:40,065 --> 00:26:41,400 and he's my buddy. 535 00:26:41,467 --> 00:26:43,235 And it felt like, wow, full circle. 536 00:26:43,302 --> 00:26:44,069 Like wow, man. 537 00:26:44,169 --> 00:26:44,970 Remember when you helped me? 538 00:26:45,037 --> 00:26:46,638 I never forgot that. 539 00:26:46,705 --> 00:26:48,440 And it worked. 540 00:26:48,507 --> 00:26:51,310 - That made Diamond Dallas Page. 541 00:26:52,144 --> 00:26:55,681 That was like, "Okay, you're in." 542 00:26:56,281 --> 00:26:59,751 - At that time, I knew he made it. 543 00:26:59,818 --> 00:27:01,353 I knew he made it. 544 00:27:04,122 --> 00:27:07,025 - And then his peers, guys in the locker room, were all of a 545 00:27:07,092 --> 00:27:09,027 sudden now coming to him and going, yeah, Randy Savage. 546 00:27:09,027 --> 00:27:13,298 "Hey, brother, got an idea. 547 00:27:13,398 --> 00:27:16,735 Me and Page, think it could be good." 548 00:27:16,802 --> 00:27:18,170 "Okay, Randy." 549 00:27:18,237 --> 00:27:20,205 - Underdog that he might be. 550 00:27:20,272 --> 00:27:24,643 He has became a major player at WCW. 551 00:27:24,710 --> 00:27:26,879 [crowd cheers] 552 00:27:26,945 --> 00:27:30,315 - And then one day, I was at an autograph signing in Houston. 553 00:27:30,382 --> 00:27:32,417 So I went to see the Rockets play that night, 554 00:27:32,518 --> 00:27:35,587 and they were playing the Jazz. 555 00:27:35,654 --> 00:27:41,927 Karl Malone, the third leading scorer of all time. 556 00:27:42,594 --> 00:27:44,263 He throws the Diamond Cutter 557 00:27:44,363 --> 00:27:45,664 [chuckles] 558 00:27:45,664 --> 00:27:48,500 sign out to me, and then he sent us VIP passes, 559 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,036 we went backstage. 560 00:27:51,036 --> 00:27:54,273 - As a little kid, there was no other kid in the neighborhood 561 00:27:54,273 --> 00:27:57,309 that loved wrestling more than me. 562 00:27:57,409 --> 00:27:59,845 So I was nervous as hell. 563 00:27:59,912 --> 00:28:01,680 Hell, yeah, you get awestruck. 564 00:28:01,747 --> 00:28:03,549 Are you- are you kidding me? 565 00:28:03,649 --> 00:28:04,683 - And Page called me and said, 566 00:28:04,750 --> 00:28:06,385 "Hey, you know what do you think about Karl Malone? 567 00:28:06,451 --> 00:28:08,120 We've already been working with Dennis Rodman. 568 00:28:08,186 --> 00:28:09,521 What do you think about Karl Malone?" 569 00:28:09,588 --> 00:28:10,355 I was, "What-what are you? 570 00:28:10,422 --> 00:28:11,190 Crazy? 571 00:28:11,256 --> 00:28:12,024 Of course. 572 00:28:12,090 --> 00:28:13,025 But how's that gonna happen?" 573 00:28:13,025 --> 00:28:14,159 He goes, "He's sitting right next to me. 574 00:28:14,226 --> 00:28:14,993 You wanna talk to him?" 575 00:28:15,060 --> 00:28:16,261 [chuckles] 576 00:28:16,361 --> 00:28:18,897 - Eric Bischoff, he just shot a number out there. 577 00:28:18,997 --> 00:28:20,032 Hell, I took it. 578 00:28:20,098 --> 00:28:21,466 I-I didn't negotiate. 579 00:28:21,533 --> 00:28:24,403 I just-- I wanna do it. 580 00:28:25,070 --> 00:28:26,572 Hey, I started laughing when he left, like, 581 00:28:26,638 --> 00:28:28,307 " --, I would've done this for free." 582 00:28:30,475 --> 00:28:36,114 Dallas, the very first training we had, we connected. 583 00:28:36,882 --> 00:28:40,586 I'm an old cowboy from the south, and you know, as they 584 00:28:40,652 --> 00:28:45,324 say, when-when-when- that's a good egg, so to speak. 585 00:28:46,024 --> 00:28:49,428 We would go to restaurants and it could be a homeless person. 586 00:28:49,428 --> 00:28:51,430 He'd give him a hug. 587 00:28:51,496 --> 00:28:53,465 You'd see him put something in their hand. 588 00:28:53,465 --> 00:28:57,135 Just the-the heart. 589 00:28:57,202 --> 00:29:00,806 If he needed me today, I would stop everything 590 00:29:00,872 --> 00:29:04,276 I'm doing in my power, and I'd go wherever he at. 591 00:29:04,343 --> 00:29:06,645 If he need me. 592 00:29:07,980 --> 00:29:10,148 - It's summer of 1998. 593 00:29:10,248 --> 00:29:14,086 DDP and Malone against Hogan and Rodman. 594 00:29:14,152 --> 00:29:17,923 And you gotta understand this, this is just after the NBA 595 00:29:17,990 --> 00:29:22,427 Finals, where you have Malone and Rodman going at each other. 596 00:29:22,494 --> 00:29:25,264 So this had the potential to be huge. 597 00:29:25,430 --> 00:29:26,398 - I'm going to call him out. 598 00:29:26,465 --> 00:29:27,866 going to win in the court, brother. 599 00:29:27,866 --> 00:29:28,900 - Yeah. 600 00:29:28,967 --> 00:29:32,504 - We shoot the angle, not on the wrestling show, 601 00:29:32,604 --> 00:29:35,207 on the world stage, The Tonight Show. 602 00:29:35,274 --> 00:29:36,508 [crowd cheers] 603 00:29:36,608 --> 00:29:37,376 - Hello. 604 00:29:37,442 --> 00:29:39,344 Hang on. 605 00:29:39,444 --> 00:29:44,249 - That next day, paparazzi insanity. 606 00:29:44,316 --> 00:29:45,517 - Left. 607 00:29:45,584 --> 00:29:48,120 - I'll bet you, there was 70 cameras from all over the world. 608 00:29:48,987 --> 00:29:49,955 - And over here, guys. 609 00:29:50,922 --> 00:29:52,424 [crowd cheers] 610 00:29:52,491 --> 00:29:58,063 - The whole magnitude of what we was doing, 611 00:29:58,163 --> 00:29:59,665 that's all people wanted to see. 612 00:29:59,665 --> 00:30:02,834 - Four of the most recognizable faces in the sports world 613 00:30:02,901 --> 00:30:06,872 are center stage for one of the most anticipated battles ever. 614 00:30:07,673 --> 00:30:09,975 - Dallas would say thanks to me- 615 00:30:10,042 --> 00:30:14,112 - Here's a desperation tag, and here comes Page. 616 00:30:14,713 --> 00:30:17,115 - -"You're bringing light to our profession." 617 00:30:17,115 --> 00:30:18,283 [crowd cheers] 618 00:30:18,350 --> 00:30:20,118 - It's the fourth quarter, and the Mailman's got the ball. 619 00:30:20,185 --> 00:30:21,787 [crowd cheers] 620 00:30:21,853 --> 00:30:22,888 - And I'm saying, 621 00:30:22,954 --> 00:30:26,925 "No. What y'all did for me is what's amazing." 622 00:30:26,992 --> 00:30:30,462 [crowd cheers] 623 00:30:30,562 --> 00:30:35,967 The funnest -- ever, 624 00:30:36,001 --> 00:30:41,673 DDP, he brought me along for the ride. 625 00:30:41,673 --> 00:30:45,444 He brought this little snotty nose kid from North Louisiana 626 00:30:45,510 --> 00:30:47,245 on the ride of a lifetime. 627 00:30:47,312 --> 00:30:50,315 [crowd cheers] 628 00:30:50,315 --> 00:30:53,919 - Now, he was teaming on giant pay-per-view events 629 00:30:53,985 --> 00:30:56,955 with celebrities like Jay Leno, 630 00:30:57,656 --> 00:30:59,791 becoming a household name. 631 00:31:01,226 --> 00:31:03,228 - To think where I was even two years earlier, 632 00:31:03,228 --> 00:31:07,699 to where I was at this point, 633 00:31:07,799 --> 00:31:08,300 humbling- 634 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:09,134 [laughs] 635 00:31:09,201 --> 00:31:11,169 -mind-blowing. 636 00:31:11,236 --> 00:31:13,305 I knew it was gonna change my life, 637 00:31:13,405 --> 00:31:17,275 but I didn't think it was gonna change up like that. 638 00:31:17,275 --> 00:31:19,277 It was like being one of the Beatles for a while there. 639 00:31:19,344 --> 00:31:20,946 It was really crazy. 640 00:31:22,347 --> 00:31:25,050 - It was an amazingly exciting time, 641 00:31:25,117 --> 00:31:27,786 but it was also a really stressful time too. 642 00:31:29,755 --> 00:31:33,658 - He got really exhausted burning the candle at both ends. 643 00:31:33,759 --> 00:31:38,430 - Between The Tonight Show, Kilborn, uh, Hollywood Squares, 644 00:31:38,497 --> 00:31:41,900 filming movies when you're riding that tsunami, 645 00:31:41,967 --> 00:31:44,202 you gotta ride the tsunami. 646 00:31:44,269 --> 00:31:50,575 I was so burned out, and my body was pretty beat up 647 00:31:50,642 --> 00:31:53,245 'cause I was running so hard. 648 00:31:53,879 --> 00:31:57,682 The abuse had just blew my back out, 649 00:31:58,750 --> 00:32:02,420 and that's when I ruptured my L4 and L5 vertebrae. 650 00:32:02,521 --> 00:32:04,122 Went to three different doctors, 651 00:32:05,424 --> 00:32:06,725 they said my career was over. 652 00:32:12,297 --> 00:32:13,465 - DDP. 653 00:32:13,532 --> 00:32:16,168 - When I blew my back out, went to three different doctors 654 00:32:16,234 --> 00:32:18,170 they all said I was done. 655 00:32:18,236 --> 00:32:20,372 Woo. 656 00:32:20,438 --> 00:32:24,276 But again, this was a thing that happened as a kid that really 657 00:32:24,276 --> 00:32:25,210 stuck with me- 658 00:32:25,277 --> 00:32:25,911 [chuckles] 659 00:32:26,011 --> 00:32:27,212 -man. 660 00:32:27,279 --> 00:32:31,416 Like-like I'm gonna figure out whatever it takes to be able to 661 00:32:31,483 --> 00:32:35,387 continue to live whatever dream, I'm working towards. 662 00:32:35,454 --> 00:32:38,890 But more than anything, you can't give up. 663 00:32:38,957 --> 00:32:40,826 How do I fix this? 664 00:32:40,892 --> 00:32:43,395 Around that time Kimberly says, 665 00:32:43,462 --> 00:32:45,730 "Why don't you try yoga to heal your body?" 666 00:32:45,797 --> 00:32:46,464 [chuckles] 667 00:32:46,531 --> 00:32:49,267 I was like, " -- that." 668 00:32:50,902 --> 00:32:54,673 - I had started doing yoga, and I would often invite Dallas 669 00:32:54,673 --> 00:32:56,474 to work out with me. 670 00:32:56,541 --> 00:32:58,210 He wouldn't even come downstairs to try it. 671 00:32:58,276 --> 00:33:00,879 He was like, "Nah, that's for- that's for chicks." 672 00:33:00,946 --> 00:33:04,115 - But she kind of bullied me into it. 673 00:33:04,182 --> 00:33:04,916 - Whoa. 674 00:33:04,916 --> 00:33:05,750 [chuckles] 675 00:33:05,817 --> 00:33:07,919 - And he did one class with me. 676 00:33:07,986 --> 00:33:13,792 From that one first workout, he became a yogi. 677 00:33:13,859 --> 00:33:16,428 - I started to feel a significant difference, 678 00:33:16,428 --> 00:33:18,563 and that's how I got back in the ring. 679 00:33:18,630 --> 00:33:20,031 [crowd cheers] 680 00:33:20,098 --> 00:33:22,234 - Well, Diamond Dallas Page is one of those wrestlers that you 681 00:33:22,300 --> 00:33:25,937 just can't keep down, no matter what the condition, 682 00:33:26,004 --> 00:33:29,040 DDP is ready to go. 683 00:33:29,674 --> 00:33:33,178 - Diamond Dallas Page a-a-ascended to levels that 684 00:33:33,245 --> 00:33:37,616 I think even he would think unbelievable. 685 00:33:37,682 --> 00:33:41,753 But even with all this success, Diamond Dallas Page 686 00:33:41,820 --> 00:33:44,923 had never been World Champion. 687 00:33:44,990 --> 00:33:46,191 [crowd cheers] 688 00:33:46,258 --> 00:33:49,528 - Ladies and gentlemen, this is Spring Stampede's 689 00:33:49,594 --> 00:33:53,798 main event of the evening, a four corners match for 690 00:33:53,865 --> 00:33:57,536 the WCW World Heavyweight Championship. 691 00:33:57,602 --> 00:33:59,838 - One of these four men will emerge as the 692 00:33:59,905 --> 00:34:01,006 World Champion tonight. 693 00:34:01,072 --> 00:34:02,474 [crowd cheers] 694 00:34:02,474 --> 00:34:07,312 - I told Dusty four years, four months, and 14 days earlier, 695 00:34:07,312 --> 00:34:10,148 that I know I'm never gonna be you or Rick or Hulk. 696 00:34:10,248 --> 00:34:13,251 Yet that night, I step in the ring in a four-way dance 697 00:34:13,318 --> 00:34:16,788 with Rick, with Hulk. 698 00:34:16,855 --> 00:34:18,490 - You given it up or not? 699 00:34:18,556 --> 00:34:19,391 - Oh, God. 700 00:34:19,457 --> 00:34:20,592 Help. 701 00:34:20,659 --> 00:34:22,327 - That goal that he strived for, the goal that everybody 702 00:34:22,394 --> 00:34:23,762 told him he would never achieve, 703 00:34:23,828 --> 00:34:25,864 nobody but him believed could happen. 704 00:34:25,964 --> 00:34:29,734 - There it is, Diamond Cutter by Page. 705 00:34:29,801 --> 00:34:32,237 1, 2, 3. 706 00:34:32,237 --> 00:34:32,804 [crowd cheers] 707 00:34:32,871 --> 00:34:33,772 - Oh. 708 00:34:33,838 --> 00:34:34,873 We got a new World Champion, guys. 709 00:34:34,873 --> 00:34:35,473 [bell ringing] 710 00:34:35,540 --> 00:34:36,441 - It's history. 711 00:34:36,508 --> 00:34:39,177 Diamond Dallas Page is the 712 00:34:39,244 --> 00:34:41,680 Heavyweight Champion of the world. 713 00:34:43,715 --> 00:34:47,352 - That was Dusty saying to me, 714 00:34:51,756 --> 00:34:54,259 [sigh] 715 00:34:55,694 --> 00:34:58,229 "The guy who believed in himself 716 00:34:58,229 --> 00:35:03,568 more than anybody," 'cause he knew that I believed in myself. 717 00:35:03,635 --> 00:35:07,505 But it doesn't happen when you want it to, 718 00:35:07,606 --> 00:35:15,113 you've gotta put the work in, and you gotta be relentless. 719 00:35:15,180 --> 00:35:19,718 - A man who knows what it means to be a champion, to work hard. 720 00:35:19,784 --> 00:35:24,356 The people love Diamond Dallas Page, and they should. 721 00:35:25,390 --> 00:35:30,362 - In the '90s, WCW became the biggest wrestling 722 00:35:30,428 --> 00:35:32,630 promotion in the country. 723 00:35:32,697 --> 00:35:36,668 [crowd cheers] 724 00:35:36,768 --> 00:35:39,671 - So if you wanna talk about the significance of one 725 00:35:39,771 --> 00:35:45,377 individual, truth is, Page was right there, 726 00:35:45,443 --> 00:35:47,912 smack in the middle of it all. 727 00:35:48,947 --> 00:35:52,350 - He was a guy that stepped up, and became an attraction for us. 728 00:35:52,350 --> 00:35:53,418 [crowd cheers] 729 00:35:53,518 --> 00:35:56,021 - You will feel the-- 730 00:35:56,121 --> 00:35:59,491 [crowd yells "Pain"] 731 00:35:59,557 --> 00:36:02,260 - And the good part was, he was right, and all the naysayers 732 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,363 were wrong, which was just so cool at the end of the day. 733 00:36:05,430 --> 00:36:08,833 [crowd cheers] 734 00:36:08,900 --> 00:36:11,970 - But it's where I said, "Okay. I'm done." 735 00:36:12,470 --> 00:36:19,911 You know, I was good with it because I had something else, 736 00:36:20,011 --> 00:36:22,313 and it's going dwarf my wrestling career. 737 00:36:28,787 --> 00:36:33,425 - We had moved to Los Angeles from Atlanta, because I wanted 738 00:36:33,525 --> 00:36:36,828 to pursue some other interests, I wanted to work on some acting 739 00:36:36,895 --> 00:36:38,596 and-and get in that pond. 740 00:36:39,497 --> 00:36:43,768 While we were in LA, we just started growing apart. 741 00:36:45,437 --> 00:36:47,706 So it was kind of a warning indicator 742 00:36:47,806 --> 00:36:50,842 that we needed to break up. 743 00:36:53,078 --> 00:36:56,514 But the love stayed. 744 00:36:56,514 --> 00:36:59,918 He's still, in many ways, my best friend. 745 00:36:59,984 --> 00:37:05,190 And at the time, he knew what his next path was going to be. 746 00:37:05,190 --> 00:37:09,194 It was going to be to invent this new system of yoga- 747 00:37:09,260 --> 00:37:13,264 Put your fist and make some noise. 748 00:37:13,364 --> 00:37:16,434 - and introduce it to a whole new population, who normally 749 00:37:16,434 --> 00:37:19,738 wouldn't do yoga, and change people's lives. 750 00:37:20,305 --> 00:37:22,874 - Life is not about how many times you get knocked down, 751 00:37:22,874 --> 00:37:27,245 it's how many times you get back up again, and that's what 752 00:37:27,312 --> 00:37:31,449 DDP Yoga is all about, and just, you know helping people. 753 00:37:36,754 --> 00:37:42,026 In 2011, now, I tried to help Jake many times, 754 00:37:42,093 --> 00:37:44,629 but he wasn't ready to hear, especially, 755 00:37:44,696 --> 00:37:47,232 when you're dealing with addiction. 756 00:37:47,298 --> 00:37:48,633 - Comfy or not 757 00:37:48,700 --> 00:37:50,802 - I was doing cocaine every day, 758 00:37:50,869 --> 00:37:52,837 and not just a little bit either. 759 00:37:55,206 --> 00:37:59,444 - I couldn't believe how bad he was. 760 00:38:01,346 --> 00:38:05,283 I said, "I don't think I will ever be able to have a real 761 00:38:05,350 --> 00:38:09,487 conversation with my brother again." 762 00:38:10,388 --> 00:38:11,556 - I was near death. 763 00:38:13,158 --> 00:38:15,226 I wanted to die. 764 00:38:15,226 --> 00:38:20,331 I actually wanted it, and he threw out a life rope to me, 765 00:38:20,398 --> 00:38:23,368 man, and offered to move me in with him, and you know, 766 00:38:23,434 --> 00:38:25,436 have me working out every day. 767 00:38:25,503 --> 00:38:26,838 - I'm right here. I'm right here. 768 00:38:26,838 --> 00:38:27,806 I'm right here. 769 00:38:27,872 --> 00:38:28,973 - [grunting] 770 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:32,443 - When people ask me, "Why would you do that?" 771 00:38:32,510 --> 00:38:36,347 We don't live in this house without him, that's why. 772 00:38:38,149 --> 00:38:39,250 - I'm just -- frustrated, man. 773 00:38:39,317 --> 00:38:40,685 -- pissed off. 774 00:38:41,252 --> 00:38:42,787 - It was a long ride. 775 00:38:42,854 --> 00:38:43,788 - I know, I know. 776 00:38:43,855 --> 00:38:46,157 It-it-it's is a vicious -- cycle, man. 777 00:38:46,224 --> 00:38:49,160 I -- up, then I want to get better then, 778 00:38:49,227 --> 00:38:51,629 it's 2 o'clock clock, it's time to start again. 779 00:38:51,696 --> 00:38:52,530 - Okay. 780 00:38:52,597 --> 00:38:54,465 So what do you really want? 781 00:38:54,566 --> 00:38:55,366 - I wanna be free. 782 00:38:55,433 --> 00:38:56,067 - Okay. 783 00:38:56,167 --> 00:38:58,336 Well, it takes work. 784 00:38:58,403 --> 00:39:01,439 - Deep breath, exhale forward. 785 00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:04,642 - Three years it took to get me sober. 786 00:39:04,709 --> 00:39:07,812 8, 7, 6, 5. 787 00:39:07,879 --> 00:39:11,216 Then, I finally found out what happiness is, 788 00:39:11,282 --> 00:39:12,450 true happiness. 789 00:39:12,517 --> 00:39:13,885 - Ahh. 790 00:39:13,952 --> 00:39:15,787 [laughs] 791 00:39:15,854 --> 00:39:21,659 - Make no mistake, DDP saved Jake Roberts, saved his life, 792 00:39:21,759 --> 00:39:24,629 and then he went ahead and helped Scott Hall as well 793 00:39:24,629 --> 00:39:29,000 with his addictions, that also helped save his life. 794 00:39:29,067 --> 00:39:29,968 - Awesome. 795 00:39:30,001 --> 00:39:30,835 That's farther back than you've been, dude. 796 00:39:30,902 --> 00:39:32,537 That's way back. 797 00:39:32,604 --> 00:39:35,640 - All the things he's doing with wrestlers, who others have said, 798 00:39:35,740 --> 00:39:37,976 "No, I'm done. I'm done with them." 799 00:39:38,042 --> 00:39:39,677 Dallas is never done. 800 00:39:39,677 --> 00:39:41,713 - That's one here, three. 801 00:39:41,713 --> 00:39:42,714 - That's just his passion. 802 00:39:42,780 --> 00:39:45,450 That's his-- That's what makes him tick. 803 00:39:45,516 --> 00:39:48,753 He loves helping people, and he wants his friends 804 00:39:48,820 --> 00:39:50,788 to experience that. 805 00:39:51,656 --> 00:39:53,892 And that's really who he's always been. 806 00:39:53,958 --> 00:39:55,026 - Yes. 807 00:39:55,026 --> 00:40:00,198 - Jake and Scott both get sober in the same house, 808 00:40:02,066 --> 00:40:07,205 and then they both in the same year, go in the Hall of Fame. 809 00:40:09,007 --> 00:40:09,874 It really-- 810 00:40:09,874 --> 00:40:10,975 [chuckles] 811 00:40:11,042 --> 00:40:15,880 It made me so happy that I felt like I was going in. 812 00:40:24,155 --> 00:40:25,556 - DDP has one of the biggest hearts 813 00:40:25,623 --> 00:40:27,358 of anybody I've ever known. 814 00:40:27,425 --> 00:40:29,928 He will give you the shirt off his back. 815 00:40:30,461 --> 00:40:34,165 I see him doing such amazing things for other people, 816 00:40:34,232 --> 00:40:36,668 and I think what we're seeing is just a manifestation of a really 817 00:40:36,768 --> 00:40:43,107 really good heart, and a good soul that keeps on giving. 818 00:40:45,043 --> 00:40:51,049 - Dallas' early life experience would suggest a man, 819 00:40:51,115 --> 00:40:57,622 who's selfish and bitter, and he's the opposite. 820 00:40:59,123 --> 00:41:02,794 - Diamond Dallas Page's legacy is that he is a guy who refused 821 00:41:02,860 --> 00:41:06,030 to sit on his couch and say, "Could have, would have, 822 00:41:06,097 --> 00:41:09,100 should have," and went out there and did it. 823 00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:12,470 He is an inspiration to every overachiever 824 00:41:12,570 --> 00:41:14,038 that has come along since then. 825 00:41:15,473 --> 00:41:18,676 Now, he's just trying to do the same thing. 826 00:41:18,676 --> 00:41:21,045 He's a guy that's transformed lives. 827 00:41:21,112 --> 00:41:24,048 I'll go as far as to say, he's saved lives. 828 00:41:24,115 --> 00:41:25,750 He's the real deal. 829 00:41:25,883 --> 00:41:29,787 [applause] 830 00:41:29,787 --> 00:41:32,023 - A lot of these people are transformations, 831 00:41:32,123 --> 00:41:36,027 or on their way to transforming not just changing their life, 832 00:41:36,027 --> 00:41:37,362 but owning their lives. 833 00:41:37,428 --> 00:41:38,262 - You got it? 834 00:41:38,363 --> 00:41:38,963 - I got it. 835 00:41:39,030 --> 00:41:39,530 - You got it? 836 00:41:39,597 --> 00:41:40,164 - I got it. 837 00:41:40,231 --> 00:41:40,932 - Give it to me, bro. 838 00:41:40,998 --> 00:41:41,466 Come on. 839 00:41:41,532 --> 00:41:42,100 Just five. 840 00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:43,167 Just five. 841 00:41:43,234 --> 00:41:45,970 - He helps people that are broke. 842 00:41:46,037 --> 00:41:47,805 He helps people that are addicted. 843 00:41:49,741 --> 00:41:51,376 He's out here beating the bushes, man, 844 00:41:51,442 --> 00:41:53,411 trying to help people. 845 00:41:55,713 --> 00:41:59,717 - You know, I'm just doing what comes natural to me today. 846 00:42:01,586 --> 00:42:05,556 That's why when people say, "How do you stay so positive?" 847 00:42:05,623 --> 00:42:09,460 Because I'm happy, I'm remarried to my beautiful wife, Page, 848 00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:12,530 who's supportive in everything that I do today, 849 00:42:12,597 --> 00:42:15,400 and I help a lot of people. 850 00:42:16,901 --> 00:42:21,038 You can get whatever you want, as long as you help enough 851 00:42:21,105 --> 00:42:24,175 people get what they want. 852 00:42:25,510 --> 00:42:30,648 That's a truest statement I've ever heard, and I live by it. 65354

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