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- I was a member
of the Manson Family.
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- Charlie was permeating
my whole being.
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- He was alive.
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- He was manipulating in a way
that no one knew
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he was manipulating.
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- I don't need to kill anyone!
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I think it.
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- What was it
about Charlie Manson
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that made these women
give up their names
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and their belongings
and join his family?
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[tense music]
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♪ ♪
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- I didn't have
any family to speak of.
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It was pretty torturous,
just this loneliness
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of not having anybody
to ever count on.
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- She's exactly the kind
of person ISIS looks for,
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because she wanted desperately
to be part of something.
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- He made victims of more
than just the people that died.
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There are some people
you don't have to forgive.
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- I never saw fulfillment
and happiness
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in the people I looked up to.
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I'd say meeting Manson
saved my life,
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my health, my brain,
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my emotional health,
my mental health,
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my physical health.
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I'm thankful.
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- I have no idea
how you could have been
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involved in that family
and have continued
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to believe what Manson said.
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- You want to talk
about immoral and evil,
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go to Hollywood.
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We touched it.
It needed to be touched.
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- From my perspective,
I was looking for a place
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to be a part of something
bigger than just myself.
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- That's a person
who is vulnerable,
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and that's why
a lot of cult leaders
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choose young girls.
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Dianne was the perfect target.
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- It was hard to live with.
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I felt this overwhelming guilt,
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just guilty by association.
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It's just been very cathartic
for me to realize
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that I was a victim
of his manipulation.
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- We were all looking
for a family
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that we related to.
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- Squeaky wanted to rebel.
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If you've ever been a parent
of a child
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who's in their teens
and they just wanna rebel
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and they find the bad boy...
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- Charlie, he had what I wanted.
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It was amazing to me.
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I had tried to kill
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the leader... of the country.
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- I knew that Charlie
put her up to it.
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- I've never regretted
any of those experiences.
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I've been out
for almost ten years.
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[dramatic music]
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- None of the people
should ever be paroled.
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- These people can't be trusted.
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Are they the same people
that they were in 1969?
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- Everything was about Charlie.
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- It was kill or be killed.
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- Just because a person kills
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does not make them evil and bad.
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War is not murder.
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[ominous music]
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♪ ♪
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[foreboding music]
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- That summer and what
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Charles Manson
and the women did,
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I mean, it really took
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the innocence away from America.
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♪ ♪
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- In California,
five members of a so-called
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religious cult
including Charles Manson,
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the guru or high priest,
have been indicted
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in the murder of Sharon Tate
and six others.
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- Charlie Manson hadn't
actually picked up a knife
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and stabbed anybody.
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He ordered them to go do this,
and they did.
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- There's nothing about it
that isn't
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completely heartrending,
disgusting,
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scary, vicious.
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It was meant to be vicious,
violent, and vile.
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[chilling music]
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♪ ♪
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- It was a very scary thing
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to have these band of hippies
kill people.
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- The group was broken up
last October
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when the deputies raided
the camp.
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Some of the women were nude,
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and some wore only
bikini bottoms.
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- The Manson Family
was going to get us.
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That became
the proverbial bogeyman.
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- The women...
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- I don't fear
for anybody's testimony.
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- They didn't show any remorse.
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I mean, they just doubled down,
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and they wanted to be there
for their leader, for Charlie.
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I mean, how frightening is that
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to the people that are watching
this trial?
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Female narrator:
It was a shocking trial:
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Charles Manson and some of
his young followers in court
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charged with murder
and conspiracy
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in the brutal deaths
of seven people.
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- Manson's influence
over these women
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was so strong that they believed
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what they were doing
was the right thing.
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- I was interviewing
someone in prison,
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and she said every woman
she knew was there
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because of a man,
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either because she did
his dirty work for him
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or maybe retribution
because he cheated on her.
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But it was mainly
that they had been
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manipulated by men
and had found themselves
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in prison as a result.
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Narrator: In 1969,
Charles Manson convinced
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a group of very young women
to commit crimes
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and murder for him.
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Why were these women
willing to abandon
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the lives they had known
for a 5'2" ex-con like Manson?
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[rock music]
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- Everything's got to be
in the context of the '60s.
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- It was
a very different time, yeah.
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The country
sort of just opened up
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partly due to...
different drugs, I guess.
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- 500,000 of our brothers
are killing and dying
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in a jungle 10,000 miles away.
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- There were all kinds
of things happening
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on different college campuses.
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Many aspects
of society were seeing
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the disillusion of the system.
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- My mother said she
considered me more of a sister
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in, you know,
this counterculture movement
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than she did, you know,
her daughter.
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- It was peace, love.
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People were exploring
alternative lifestyles.
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I was at that right age.
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We loved guys who played guitar.
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We loved the guys
who were sort of brooding
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and mysterious.
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Everybody was speaking
in psychobabble.
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[dark music]
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narrator:
The women who became a part
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of Manson's family were
between the ages of 13 and 24.
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They were orphans,
runaways, and rebels.
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But what was it about him
that attracted them?
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- I'll say anything
you want me to say.
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Just, you know,
give me some rest, you know?
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So everybody's very happy now.
They got what they wanted.
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I just can't even watch myself
talking about it.
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It's just horrible.
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I was born in France.
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My mother was taken
by an officer
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and raped.
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She took her own life
after the war,
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and then I was adopted
by American parents.
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My mother who adopted me
got cancer
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and died when I was 16.
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She took her own life also,
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because she thought
she might be a burden.
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And then I was estranged
from my stepfather.
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Basically, I wasn't homeless
like under a bridge
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or anything like that,
but I really didn't have
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a place of my own.
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It was pretty torturous,
you know,
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just this loneliness
of not having anybody
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to ever count on.
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- These young women
were searching for love.
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- They wanted so desperately
to be accepted and to be in.
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- I was totally looking
for that acceptance.
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At the time,
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my home life
was pretty disorganized.
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My dad had always been
kind of enamored
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with this
counterculture movement.
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My mom gave up everything
for my dad's dream
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of dropping out.
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We had a big yard sale
and moved into a bread truck.
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Five of us, you know,
three kids and two adults,
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and we were
supposed to be doing it
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with these other members
of this commune.
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Then when I got to this commune,
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the people that were in charge
said they were uncomfortable
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with my being there
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because I was a sexually active
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underaged female.
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They weren't kicking me out,
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but I didn't feel like
I belonged.
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My parents, they had given me
emancipation as a minor.
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I had really gotten lost
in the weeds,
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and so I was looking for a place
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to be a part of something.
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- When my parents dropped out,
I was 13.
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- You've got a combination
of elements:
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someone who wants
to be independent,
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someone who may even think
they can handle independence,
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but who is entirely
emotionally ill-prepared.
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That's a person
who is vulnerable.
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[dramatic music]
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- I was 18,
and then my dad threw me out.
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We had started to argue.
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He was... he just didn't want
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the interaction with me.
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It wasn't that I was
contesting all the time.
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It was that I wanted to know
and he didn't have answers.
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And he thought he should have
all the answers, I guess.
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I felt like I had
to go out and find out myself.
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My father and I had argued about
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just a definition
of a word or something,
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something really silly.
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And he said,
"You get out of this house
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and never come back."
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I took him at his word.
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I did cry,
because I just thought,
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"Well, that's pretty final."
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- They were, many of them,
in middle-class families
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where they just wanted to rebel.
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And if you've ever been
a parent of a child
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who's in their teens,
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you can understand that
to an extent.
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- Lynn's father was
an aeronautical engineer
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from Southern California.
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My stepfather was
an aeronautical engineer.
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We had a lot of similarities
in my upbringing,
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but I'd say I was more
upper middle class.
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I mean, we would be
in the society column
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at Christmastime, looking
pretty and photogenic.
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Like, "Ooh, beautiful,
beautiful American family."
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I had so many
respiratory things going on,
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two tracheotomies
by the time I was one.
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My mother did not want me
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to survive the many operations
I had.
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I know that for a fact.
She conveyed it daily.
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I was 24 years old,
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and I had learning disabilities.
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I never saw fulfillment
and happiness
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in, you know,
the people I looked up to.
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None of them were happy.
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Many of them were alcoholics.
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Narrator:
It was in the fall of 1967
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when many of the women
met Manson for the first time.
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- We were all looking
for a family, I think.
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We were all looking for a family
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that we related to.
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- If you couple
the desire for inclusion
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with a fear of rejection,
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you can get people
to do almost anything.
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And it's
a really dangerous thing
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when you've got someone
who knows how to do that.
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[suspenseful music]
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- Charlie held all the cards.
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- I really, truly believed
that my survival
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was going to be to stay
with Charlie.
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- Charlie told me that
I had to be willing to kill.
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- It's so hard to believe
a woman could have
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these up-close, personal,
intimate murders
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and not feel anything.
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- How can you put
the finger at us
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and call us evil for doing
what needed to be done?
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[dramatic music]
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♪ ♪
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narrator: By the time
the brutal murders
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had occurred,
the women had been with Manson
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for almost two years.
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How was Manson able to find
all these lost souls
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from dysfunctional families
and convince them
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to give themselves to him?
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- Charlie was dynamic
and charismatic,
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and he would play the guitar,
and he sang.
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And it was in that culture
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where these young women
were searching for love.
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- They were hungry
for a connection.
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He had the ability
to pay attention,
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which picked up strengths
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but, most important,
vulnerabilities,
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and knew how to manipulate that.
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- I went to Topanga Canyon,
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and that's where
I first met Charlie.
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[tense music]
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We walked outside,
and he looked at my throat.
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And he traced his finger
around my tracheotomy scar.
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♪ ♪
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And he said,
"Your mother wanted you dead
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because she was jealous."
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He's whatever a person
wants to make of him.
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He's a mirror, actually.
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And I thought, "Oh, my God,
he is totally in my mind."
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And he said,
"You're not weak."
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His brilliance was permeating
my whole being.
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My mind was pretty much blown
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just by his voice,
by his demeanor,
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by the happiness
and the brightness.
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Narrator:
He convinced these women
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that he had a unique insight
into their beings.
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And with that, they were hooked.
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♪ ♪
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- I had a job.
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I had just boughten a bunch
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of scuba diving equipment.
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I called up my roommate
and said,
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"You can sell
my scuba diving equipment,
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"you can sell my skis,
and I will call my boss back
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and tell her
I'm not coming back to work."
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There's a new thought arising.
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We learned that the only truth
we've ever heard
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comes from Charles.
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♪ ♪
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narrator: Like Blue,
Squeaky met Manson by chance
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in Southern California.
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Squeaky had just left home
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after an argument
with her father.
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- I was out at the beach.
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It was dark.
Nobody was around.
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I had thought I could find
some hippies.
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Charlie, he had been going
somewhere else...
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I think to Hollywood.
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And instead,
he stopped off in Venice,
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walked down the road.
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He didn't see me
until he got close enough,
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and then he said,
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"So your father
kicked you out?"
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And it was amazing to me.
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♪ ♪
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He was very interested,
animated.
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He was interacting.
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He was alive.
That's the main thing.
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Charlie, he exhibited so much.
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It was a quiet...
it was a presence,
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and that's probably the thing
that's hardest to convey.
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Narrator:
With nowhere else to go
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and enamored
by their first meeting,
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Squeaky joined Manson
and met the others.
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In the beginning, Manson
and the women had nothing.
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They lived off the good nature
of others
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and ate out of dumpsters
when there was nothing else.
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To get around,
they borrowed cars and vans.
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- We traveled in a VW bus.
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And there were very quickly
three of us
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and then five of us,
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and then we had to get
a bigger bus.
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I mean, he was not
recruiting anybody.
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What it was is,
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we were discovering America.
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- Charlie's group
was very nomadic.
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They didn't have anything.
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He would drive this bus,
and he would, you know,
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literally drive down the coast
and pick up these women.
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It was happiness, free love,
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you know,
sort of the hippie culture.
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- Everybody took everybody in
during that time,
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so it didn't feel like
you were homeless.
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- There was all this free love
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and people handing people drugs
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and, "Yeah, man,
I'll give you free food."
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- We were irreverent
human beings,
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and we were traveling.
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- They were just feeling lost
and vulnerable
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to a guy like Manson.
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Narrator: Snake celebrated
her 14th birthday
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all by herself.
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She was lonely
and had been abandoned
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by her family.
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When she was most vulnerable,
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she crossed paths
with Charles Manson.
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- I'd been on my own
for, you know,
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quite a few months.
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And I met these girls,
and they made me feel like
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just incredibly special.
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- Dianne was making decisions
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for where she wanted to be,
where she wanted to go
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that no 14-year-old
should really be doing.
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Her parents just wrote out
a letter and said,
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"Okay, you can live
on your own."
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And they thought it was fine,
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and that's when she wound up
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being abandoned on her own.
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- Charlie was extremely loving,
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and I felt welcome.
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He took me that night
and made love to me
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like I'd never
experienced before,
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in a way that, you know,
made me feel like a woman.
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It was the most magical,
you know,
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that I had ever encountered.
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- He used his sexuality
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as a way of increasing
dependence on him.
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Narrator: In the '60s,
for the first time,
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free expression of sexuality
was part of the culture,
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something Manson used
to his advantage.
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When he first met Snake
and had sex with her,
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Manson was 34 and she was 14.
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- At the time,
they were experimenting
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in open relationships
and sexuality.
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But there's an imbalance
in the power
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and the persuasion,
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and that's why we protect
young people
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from being influenced by people
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who are at a different
maturity level.
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- I remember thinking
that I wanted
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Charlie to love only me
and marry me.
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I was disenfranchised.
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I didn't feel like
I really belonged anywhere,
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and they invited me
to come live with them.
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So I stayed with them.
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[ominous music]
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- I think he seduced them
on many different levels,
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and he was very good at it.
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♪ ♪
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narrator:
When Manson met Gypsy,
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his group was still small
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and traveling
around Southern California.
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Gypsy had been homeless
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since her adopted mother's
suicide.
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- One day, a car drove up,
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an old beat-up Chevy
with an old cowboy
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and four girls in it.
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And that's how I met Charlie.
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Squeaky was sitting
next to Charlie,
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and on the other side of her
was Sandy Good.
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He was the most confident
person I had ever run into.
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He was fun-loving,
and everybody seemed
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very peaceful and happy.
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Charlie took me out
to talk to me,
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and he really came on to me
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really, really strong.
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I felt accepted.
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It just felt like...
it was kind of like
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a dream come true.
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I was an orphan,
so I was looking for family.
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So I said, "Well, I'm staying,"
440
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and I never left.
441
00:21:45,405 --> 00:21:47,407
- Charlie preached about that,
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having fun and being open
443
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and giving yourself
to the family,
444
00:21:54,814 --> 00:21:56,983
but it came at a price.
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It came at a price
of giving yourself to Charlie.
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So when it came time for him
to want something from them,
447
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when it came to asking them
to kill,
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they were willing
to do that as well.
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[suspenseful music]
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[dramatic music]
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♪ ♪
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- Charlie promised you
that you would be all
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part of his family,
because these women
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didn't feel like
they were loved enough
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in their own family.
456
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But by giving up of themselves,
457
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they gave everything to Charlie,
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which gave Charlie power.
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- He studied at the foot
of the masters.
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Before Manson started to gather
his followers,
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he had been in prison.
462
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Before he went in,
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he had all these abandonment
experiences from women.
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His wife had left him.
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So when he was in prison,
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he was asking,
"How do I keep a woman?"
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He learned and was expecting
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00:23:04,784 --> 00:23:06,886
to come out of prison
and, "Hey, what am I gonna do?
469
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I'll become a pimp,"
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except there was
all this free love.
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Narrator: In 1969,
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Charles Manson was 34 years old,
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and he had already spent
22 years in prison,
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over half his life.
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[tense music]
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- He talked to me
like a brother.
477
00:23:25,638 --> 00:23:27,774
We were on the same level.
478
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We were communicating
our feelings to each other
479
00:23:30,944 --> 00:23:32,612
right away.
480
00:23:32,645 --> 00:23:34,647
It was life-changing.
481
00:23:34,681 --> 00:23:35,958
- I've been in jail all my life.
482
00:23:35,982 --> 00:23:37,584
Man, I've lived
on a handball court.
483
00:23:37,617 --> 00:23:38,985
This guy raised me up.
484
00:23:39,019 --> 00:23:40,687
All the men in the joint
raised me up,
485
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:42,622
told me what to do,
what was right and wrong.
486
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♪ ♪
487
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- If you're looking
for Charles Manson
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00:23:46,860 --> 00:23:49,662
and his values, definitely,
they come from prison,
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00:23:49,696 --> 00:23:50,830
for sure.
490
00:23:50,864 --> 00:23:53,166
- The outside world
programs people.
491
00:23:53,199 --> 00:23:57,804
The inside unprograms people
to wisdom and understanding.
492
00:23:57,837 --> 00:23:59,639
- In prison, you have to control
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00:23:59,673 --> 00:24:00,974
your immediate environment,
494
00:24:01,007 --> 00:24:03,943
because if you don't,
you can end up dead.
495
00:24:03,977 --> 00:24:06,813
So this is how he was wired.
496
00:24:06,846 --> 00:24:09,649
He was manipulating in a way
that no one knew
497
00:24:09,683 --> 00:24:11,618
he was manipulating.
498
00:24:13,086 --> 00:24:16,956
It was, like, unprogramming us
from all the lies
499
00:24:16,990 --> 00:24:19,192
that we were told
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and reprogramming us to feel
that we were perfect.
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[solemn music]
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- Charles Manson, he would
find the vulnerability
503
00:24:31,204 --> 00:24:33,940
in each of the women
that he gathered,
504
00:24:33,973 --> 00:24:35,975
and he would become that.
505
00:24:36,009 --> 00:24:38,845
He could look at someone
and size them up
506
00:24:38,878 --> 00:24:43,249
almost immediately,
know exactly what they need,
507
00:24:43,283 --> 00:24:44,818
and give it to them.
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00:24:44,851 --> 00:24:47,987
♪ ♪
509
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narrator: One year
after Manson met the women,
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his group of followers
had grown to 20 people
511
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and was still expanding.
512
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Traveling around
Southern California
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had become
increasingly difficult.
514
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They needed to find
a more permanent home.
515
00:25:03,770 --> 00:25:07,007
- Charlie had to find a place
for his nomadic band,
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and he brought them
to George Spahn's ranch.
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Narrator:
The ranch was perfect
518
00:25:13,780 --> 00:25:15,148
for Manson's growing family.
519
00:25:15,181 --> 00:25:17,017
Manson made a deal
520
00:25:17,050 --> 00:25:19,919
with the blind and elderly
owner, George Spahn.
521
00:25:21,755 --> 00:25:23,156
The women would work the ranch
522
00:25:23,189 --> 00:25:26,926
in exchange for everyone's
room and board.
523
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:30,096
- The women would take care
of the mules
524
00:25:30,130 --> 00:25:34,668
and clean out the stalls
and work around the ranch.
525
00:25:35,802 --> 00:25:37,837
- George gave us all names.
526
00:25:37,871 --> 00:25:40,907
He would put his hand
on our arm.
527
00:25:40,940 --> 00:25:42,742
I kind of went, "Eh,"
528
00:25:42,776 --> 00:25:46,746
and he started calling me
Squeaky.
529
00:25:46,780 --> 00:25:49,049
- I ended up
with the nickname Snake,
530
00:25:49,082 --> 00:25:52,719
which I didn't
particularly like.
531
00:25:52,752 --> 00:25:55,255
- I liked being at the ranch
532
00:25:55,288 --> 00:25:59,959
and horses...
women that I could respect.
533
00:25:59,993 --> 00:26:03,697
But mostly, Charlie was the...
534
00:26:05,131 --> 00:26:09,936
You know, I wanted to...
535
00:26:09,969 --> 00:26:11,304
be with him.
536
00:26:11,338 --> 00:26:14,240
[ominous music]
537
00:26:14,274 --> 00:26:16,076
narrator:
Moving to Spahn Ranch
538
00:26:16,109 --> 00:26:17,186
was a turning point
for the women
539
00:26:17,210 --> 00:26:19,279
in Manson's group.
540
00:26:19,312 --> 00:26:21,815
The ranch allowed him
to isolate them,
541
00:26:21,848 --> 00:26:25,185
brainwashing them even further.
542
00:26:25,218 --> 00:26:27,887
- They're completely isolated.
543
00:26:29,389 --> 00:26:34,260
The only source
of information, news
544
00:26:34,294 --> 00:26:37,097
that they have
is Charles Manson.
545
00:26:37,130 --> 00:26:39,966
[desolate music]
546
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,302
There's no television,
no newspapers,
547
00:26:42,335 --> 00:26:44,304
no magazines.
548
00:26:44,337 --> 00:26:45,839
- There was no electricity.
549
00:26:45,872 --> 00:26:47,974
There was no books.
550
00:26:48,008 --> 00:26:49,776
There were no calendars.
551
00:26:49,809 --> 00:26:52,979
There were no intellectual
debates in the air.
552
00:26:53,013 --> 00:26:54,881
It was just the girls
participating
553
00:26:54,914 --> 00:26:58,151
in preparing the meal.
554
00:26:58,184 --> 00:27:02,389
- The isolation helped Manson.
He knew that.
555
00:27:02,422 --> 00:27:05,091
- It wasn't as if he was
telling people what to do
556
00:27:05,125 --> 00:27:07,193
and being bossy and commanding.
557
00:27:07,227 --> 00:27:11,331
He'd ask questions like...
558
00:27:11,364 --> 00:27:14,100
"What do you think about this?"
559
00:27:14,134 --> 00:27:16,970
"Should we do this?"
He'd bring you into it.
560
00:27:17,003 --> 00:27:18,838
And then if you agreed,
561
00:27:18,872 --> 00:27:21,107
then you were, like, giving
your word you would do it.
562
00:27:21,141 --> 00:27:24,144
But you didn't think that you
were being told what to do.
563
00:27:24,177 --> 00:27:27,947
Narrator: Though the women
were providing for Manson,
564
00:27:27,981 --> 00:27:30,383
he convinced them
that he was the one
565
00:27:30,417 --> 00:27:32,285
providing for them.
566
00:27:32,318 --> 00:27:34,130
- By that time, it had been
about a year's worth
567
00:27:34,154 --> 00:27:37,991
of absolutely believing
that Charlie knew everything
568
00:27:38,024 --> 00:27:39,793
and that my only safety
569
00:27:39,826 --> 00:27:41,861
was to stay with him
and everybody.
570
00:27:43,863 --> 00:27:46,166
- I had to have a feeling
of safety.
571
00:27:46,199 --> 00:27:49,102
Safety has always been
a big issue with me.
572
00:27:50,470 --> 00:27:53,973
- It was gradual,
and by the time it had become
573
00:27:54,007 --> 00:27:56,810
a totalitarian community,
574
00:27:56,843 --> 00:27:59,913
they no longer
could challenge him.
575
00:27:59,946 --> 00:28:01,915
They had no perspective.
576
00:28:01,948 --> 00:28:04,918
[suspenseful music]
577
00:28:10,423 --> 00:28:11,423
[dramatic music]
578
00:28:13,360 --> 00:28:19,165
♪ ♪
579
00:28:19,199 --> 00:28:21,134
narrator:
A year after meeting Manson,
580
00:28:21,167 --> 00:28:24,137
the women in the group
were completely enthralled,
581
00:28:24,170 --> 00:28:27,073
becoming more and more
invested in him
582
00:28:27,107 --> 00:28:28,508
and each other.
583
00:28:28,541 --> 00:28:30,276
- The lines were blurred.
584
00:28:30,310 --> 00:28:32,245
It wasn't like one person's
a father;
585
00:28:32,278 --> 00:28:34,280
another person's your brother.
586
00:28:34,314 --> 00:28:38,118
It was friend, brother,
lover, father, mother.
587
00:28:38,151 --> 00:28:40,153
You know,
it was just all blurred.
588
00:28:40,186 --> 00:28:42,322
We were everything
to each other.
589
00:28:42,355 --> 00:28:44,391
Narrator:
In the fall of 1968,
590
00:28:44,424 --> 00:28:47,127
another woman
came into the fold,
591
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:50,196
19-year-old runaway
Leslie Van Houten.
592
00:28:51,531 --> 00:28:54,401
- Leslie was, you know...
I remember her being,
593
00:28:54,434 --> 00:28:56,336
like, you know,
the prom princess,
594
00:28:56,369 --> 00:28:59,539
California, high school gal.
595
00:28:59,572 --> 00:29:03,410
And I had never been
to high school at that point.
596
00:29:03,443 --> 00:29:06,446
- In the '60s,
her parents got divorced,
597
00:29:06,479 --> 00:29:09,449
which today doesn't seem
like a big deal.
598
00:29:09,482 --> 00:29:12,285
But back then, it was.
599
00:29:12,318 --> 00:29:14,988
[tense music]
600
00:29:15,021 --> 00:29:19,025
She went from being
with the cool kids in school
601
00:29:19,059 --> 00:29:20,393
to being shunned by them.
602
00:29:20,427 --> 00:29:24,230
She started using drugs,
and she got pregnant.
603
00:29:25,532 --> 00:29:30,970
- Her mother also recoiled
physically from Leslie
604
00:29:31,004 --> 00:29:33,039
when she told her
she was pregnant,
605
00:29:33,073 --> 00:29:36,476
and it was devastating.
606
00:29:36,509 --> 00:29:39,212
- Her mother forced her
to have an illegal abortion.
607
00:29:39,245 --> 00:29:41,981
They buried the fetus
in the backyard.
608
00:29:42,015 --> 00:29:45,018
And not surprisingly,
drug use escalated,
609
00:29:45,051 --> 00:29:47,354
and then she got involved
in the late '60s
610
00:29:47,387 --> 00:29:49,222
in the hippie movement.
611
00:29:49,255 --> 00:29:51,424
That's when she met
Catherine Share.
612
00:29:51,458 --> 00:29:53,460
♪ ♪
613
00:29:53,493 --> 00:29:55,295
- And I said, "I'm going back
to this ranch,"
614
00:29:55,328 --> 00:29:57,263
and I told her where it was.
615
00:29:57,297 --> 00:30:00,100
She'd be welcome there anytime.
616
00:30:00,133 --> 00:30:05,038
And she came to the ranch
by herself three weeks later.
617
00:30:05,071 --> 00:30:08,041
[dramatic music]
618
00:30:08,074 --> 00:30:09,542
♪ ♪
619
00:30:21,554 --> 00:30:24,257
narrator:
In the spring of 1969,
620
00:30:24,290 --> 00:30:27,460
Charles Manson would have
the women take LSD
621
00:30:27,494 --> 00:30:30,530
and then reenact
the crucifixion of Christ
622
00:30:30,563 --> 00:30:33,166
with him as the central figure.
623
00:30:33,199 --> 00:30:35,669
He had them take
LSD trips together,
624
00:30:35,702 --> 00:30:38,138
and that made them
even more reliant
625
00:30:38,171 --> 00:30:42,108
on each other
and susceptible to him.
626
00:30:42,142 --> 00:30:44,678
[eerie music]
627
00:30:44,711 --> 00:30:48,381
- I had my first LSD trip
with Charlie.
628
00:30:50,383 --> 00:30:53,420
And that was a mind blow.
629
00:30:53,453 --> 00:30:55,522
- LSD was an experience
630
00:30:55,555 --> 00:30:58,391
you didn't wanna have too often,
631
00:30:58,425 --> 00:31:01,194
because trying to take it
too often
632
00:31:01,227 --> 00:31:04,597
was almost like trying
to grab knowledge.
633
00:31:06,466 --> 00:31:09,302
- It seemed like a shortcut
to enlightenment.
634
00:31:09,336 --> 00:31:12,505
It felt like you could see
the universe.
635
00:31:12,539 --> 00:31:15,508
[tranquil music]
636
00:31:15,542 --> 00:31:16,609
♪ ♪
637
00:31:16,643 --> 00:31:18,111
- I was already an acidhead.
638
00:31:18,144 --> 00:31:19,479
By that time, I took so much
639
00:31:19,512 --> 00:31:21,581
that I lost who I was.
640
00:31:21,614 --> 00:31:25,418
I went around picking flowers
and gave 'em to everybody,
641
00:31:25,452 --> 00:31:28,188
and I was just
in this childlike state
642
00:31:28,221 --> 00:31:30,123
for a long time.
643
00:31:30,156 --> 00:31:33,226
♪ ♪
644
00:31:33,259 --> 00:31:35,628
- Charlie took me up
on a big hill
645
00:31:35,662 --> 00:31:39,199
overlooking Los Angeles.
646
00:31:39,232 --> 00:31:42,335
And in my first LSD vision,
647
00:31:42,369 --> 00:31:45,472
I saw the whole city in flames,
648
00:31:45,505 --> 00:31:48,208
and I was laughing and laughing.
649
00:31:48,241 --> 00:31:51,611
It was a laughter
that I've never experienced
650
00:31:51,644 --> 00:31:54,180
before or since.
651
00:31:54,214 --> 00:31:56,616
Later I asked Charlie,
"What... what happened?"
652
00:31:56,649 --> 00:31:59,419
And he said
he saw the whole thing.
653
00:32:10,530 --> 00:32:13,233
Narrator: LSD also allowed
Manson to create
654
00:32:13,266 --> 00:32:16,202
a growing sense of fear
within the group.
655
00:32:16,236 --> 00:32:18,304
He often had them take
the drug together
656
00:32:18,338 --> 00:32:21,408
to create a communal sense
of right and wrong
657
00:32:21,441 --> 00:32:24,144
dictated by him.
658
00:32:24,177 --> 00:32:26,646
- One of the things to make
this kind of thing work
659
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:30,650
is, the outsiders
have to be dangerous.
660
00:32:30,684 --> 00:32:32,519
You develop empathy
661
00:32:32,552 --> 00:32:35,321
for your brothers and sisters
in the group,
662
00:32:35,355 --> 00:32:37,657
and then there's
a threat from outside.
663
00:32:37,691 --> 00:32:39,559
Manson was so good
at manipulating
664
00:32:39,592 --> 00:32:41,394
that feeling of threat.
665
00:32:41,428 --> 00:32:43,396
[foreboding music]
666
00:32:43,430 --> 00:32:46,733
- For a long time,
Charlie talked about
667
00:32:46,766 --> 00:32:49,436
more esoteric kind of things.
668
00:32:51,538 --> 00:32:54,407
But after a while,
he started talking about
669
00:32:54,441 --> 00:32:57,410
the fact that there was going
to be a revolution.
670
00:32:57,444 --> 00:33:02,415
♪ ♪
671
00:33:02,449 --> 00:33:04,417
- There were so many
different aspects
672
00:33:04,451 --> 00:33:06,553
to American culture then
673
00:33:06,586 --> 00:33:11,458
for what they considered to be
the inevitable revolution.
674
00:33:12,759 --> 00:33:15,729
There was the war in Vietnam.
675
00:33:15,762 --> 00:33:18,465
♪ ♪
676
00:33:18,498 --> 00:33:21,434
- There was, you know,
lots of civil rights issues.
677
00:33:21,468 --> 00:33:26,506
- It's time now for us
to say to these men
678
00:33:26,539 --> 00:33:29,442
that you have been foul with us.
679
00:33:30,543 --> 00:33:32,445
- Everybody talked about him.
680
00:33:32,479 --> 00:33:34,481
I mean, it was in music.
681
00:33:36,416 --> 00:33:38,385
- We weren't intending
to participate.
682
00:33:38,418 --> 00:33:41,488
We wanted to get away
from the cities
683
00:33:41,521 --> 00:33:45,692
and away from the anarchy.
684
00:33:45,725 --> 00:33:48,795
- We began to distrust.
685
00:33:48,828 --> 00:33:50,730
The police wouldn't protect us.
686
00:33:50,764 --> 00:33:53,867
The military wasn't gonna
protect us.
687
00:33:53,900 --> 00:33:56,636
We had to count on each other.
688
00:33:59,773 --> 00:34:01,341
- You know, as time went on,
689
00:34:01,374 --> 00:34:02,776
he talked about it
more and more,
690
00:34:02,809 --> 00:34:05,612
and he was just saying
that it was gonna start.
691
00:34:05,645 --> 00:34:10,450
- Charles Manson isolated them
from outside reality.
692
00:34:10,483 --> 00:34:12,352
They only had him to turn to.
693
00:34:12,385 --> 00:34:15,288
[suspenseful music]
694
00:34:15,321 --> 00:34:19,659
Manson, he's paranoid
and he's losing his grip.
695
00:34:19,693 --> 00:34:21,628
- He came to me and said,
696
00:34:21,661 --> 00:34:23,730
"They might attack us
at any time."
697
00:34:23,763 --> 00:34:27,300
- I'm afraid for my life,
but on the other hand,
698
00:34:27,334 --> 00:34:29,369
I'm still looking
for his approval.
699
00:34:29,402 --> 00:34:31,271
- If somebody's threatening
their master,
700
00:34:31,304 --> 00:34:32,806
they're dangerous.
701
00:34:40,580 --> 00:34:41,580
[dramatic music]
702
00:34:43,516 --> 00:34:48,822
♪ ♪
703
00:34:48,855 --> 00:34:52,492
narrator: By 1969,
the women had spent two years
704
00:34:52,525 --> 00:34:54,861
being brainwashed
into total devotion
705
00:34:54,894 --> 00:34:56,696
to their leader.
706
00:34:56,730 --> 00:34:59,866
- They really had nothing
except Charlie.
707
00:35:01,634 --> 00:35:03,169
They'd given up their names.
708
00:35:03,203 --> 00:35:04,537
They'd given up their families.
709
00:35:04,571 --> 00:35:06,339
They'd given up their identity.
710
00:35:06,373 --> 00:35:09,709
They'd given up their money.
711
00:35:09,743 --> 00:35:11,711
- He would say,
"You can leave me,
712
00:35:11,745 --> 00:35:14,180
but no one will ever love you
like I love you,"
713
00:35:14,214 --> 00:35:16,883
or, "No one will ever love you,
period."
714
00:35:16,916 --> 00:35:18,952
narrator: In the months
leading up to the murders,
715
00:35:18,985 --> 00:35:21,588
Manson took a darker turn.
716
00:35:21,621 --> 00:35:25,692
He began to test the limits
of his power.
717
00:35:25,725 --> 00:35:30,630
Being the youngest,
Snake was the most vulnerable.
718
00:35:31,831 --> 00:35:34,668
- I don't think Dianne,
at that time,
719
00:35:34,701 --> 00:35:37,704
would have thought
that she was being abused,
720
00:35:37,737 --> 00:35:41,708
and she was living
in a hippie cult.
721
00:35:41,741 --> 00:35:44,744
- I remember wanting Charlie
to make love to me.
722
00:35:44,778 --> 00:35:47,647
I wanted him to make love
to me like he could
723
00:35:47,681 --> 00:35:50,650
and that he had in the past.
724
00:35:51,785 --> 00:35:55,789
I think that just like people
who get addicted to heroin,
725
00:35:55,822 --> 00:35:59,526
they're always trying
to have that first high again,
726
00:35:59,559 --> 00:36:01,394
that's what it was for me.
727
00:36:03,430 --> 00:36:06,399
I wanted that initial feeling
728
00:36:06,433 --> 00:36:09,536
of being super special
and super loved
729
00:36:09,569 --> 00:36:11,905
and, you know,
like in the very beginning.
730
00:36:13,707 --> 00:36:16,876
And he took me down,
you know, the road
731
00:36:16,910 --> 00:36:18,678
and took me into this little
gypsy caravan
732
00:36:18,712 --> 00:36:20,747
and sodomized me, raped me,
733
00:36:20,780 --> 00:36:22,615
left me in tears and bleeding.
734
00:36:22,649 --> 00:36:23,993
And he said something
to the effect of,
735
00:36:24,017 --> 00:36:25,985
"Well, that's the way
we do it in prison."
736
00:36:26,019 --> 00:36:30,623
♪ ♪
737
00:36:30,657 --> 00:36:32,258
I don't know.
738
00:36:32,292 --> 00:36:34,561
It just was a really ugly...
it was a really ugly
739
00:36:34,594 --> 00:36:35,895
side of him.
740
00:36:35,929 --> 00:36:37,039
I don't know how to describe it.
741
00:36:37,063 --> 00:36:38,665
I'm afraid for my life,
742
00:36:38,698 --> 00:36:40,033
but on the other hand,
743
00:36:40,066 --> 00:36:42,535
I'm still looking
for his approval.
744
00:36:43,603 --> 00:36:45,538
Narrator: A month before
the Manson Family's
745
00:36:45,572 --> 00:36:47,807
infamous murder spree,
746
00:36:47,841 --> 00:36:51,511
his power over the women
escalated.
747
00:36:53,046 --> 00:36:55,682
He had been using
a fear of outsiders
748
00:36:55,715 --> 00:36:57,484
to hold his group together.
749
00:36:57,517 --> 00:37:02,622
And on July 1, 1969,
things got violent.
750
00:37:02,655 --> 00:37:04,057
[menacing music]
751
00:37:04,090 --> 00:37:05,759
- There was a bad drug deal,
752
00:37:05,792 --> 00:37:08,661
and Charlie shot a black man.
753
00:37:08,695 --> 00:37:09,763
[gunshot]
754
00:37:11,498 --> 00:37:13,266
So I was cooking one night.
755
00:37:14,668 --> 00:37:16,603
He came to me and said,
756
00:37:16,636 --> 00:37:18,772
"The Black Panthers
know where we are,
757
00:37:18,805 --> 00:37:21,541
and they might attack us
at any time."
758
00:37:21,574 --> 00:37:23,777
- The Black Panther Party
for Self Defense believes
759
00:37:23,810 --> 00:37:25,845
that the time has come
for black people
760
00:37:25,879 --> 00:37:27,981
to arm themselves
against this terror,
761
00:37:28,014 --> 00:37:30,050
the terror of
the white people, presumably,
762
00:37:30,083 --> 00:37:31,818
before it is too late.
763
00:37:31,851 --> 00:37:33,853
♪ ♪
764
00:37:33,887 --> 00:37:35,055
narrator:
It wasn't politics
765
00:37:35,088 --> 00:37:36,890
that had Manson running scared.
766
00:37:36,923 --> 00:37:38,825
It was a drug deal gone wrong
767
00:37:38,858 --> 00:37:41,528
between Manson and a member
of the Black Panthers
768
00:37:41,561 --> 00:37:43,897
that had him fearing
retaliation.
769
00:37:45,098 --> 00:37:48,735
- To me, it was,
"Well, it's started.
770
00:37:48,768 --> 00:37:51,771
The Black Panthers
are starting the revolution."
771
00:37:51,805 --> 00:37:55,041
[indistinct chanting]
772
00:37:55,075 --> 00:37:56,810
- In Los Angeles,
773
00:37:56,843 --> 00:38:00,780
the Black Panthers
and the police were killing
774
00:38:00,814 --> 00:38:02,615
each other, I guess.
775
00:38:02,649 --> 00:38:03,983
- There was all this activity.
776
00:38:04,017 --> 00:38:07,120
- I really, truly believed
777
00:38:07,153 --> 00:38:11,925
that my survival was going
to be to stay with Charlie,
778
00:38:11,958 --> 00:38:14,828
'cause he knew how to maneuver
all this.
779
00:38:15,895 --> 00:38:19,766
- Manson, he's paranoid,
and he's losing his grip.
780
00:38:19,799 --> 00:38:22,869
- That's when Charlie
asked Bobby if he would come
781
00:38:22,902 --> 00:38:25,839
and stay at the ranch
and just protect the ranch.
782
00:38:25,872 --> 00:38:27,874
[ominous music]
783
00:38:27,907 --> 00:38:29,776
narrator: In order
to protect himself
784
00:38:29,809 --> 00:38:32,545
from the Black Panthers,
Manson invited
785
00:38:32,579 --> 00:38:35,382
a 21-year-old musician
named Bobby Beausoleil
786
00:38:35,415 --> 00:38:38,651
to join the family
at Spahn Ranch.
787
00:38:38,685 --> 00:38:42,055
To the women, recruiting Bobby
was another sign
788
00:38:42,088 --> 00:38:46,059
that Manson was protecting
them from a revolution.
789
00:38:46,092 --> 00:38:48,661
- He was a self-confident kid.
790
00:38:48,695 --> 00:38:51,097
He was wearing a top hat
and a cape.
791
00:38:51,131 --> 00:38:54,034
He had run away
when he was young.
792
00:38:54,067 --> 00:38:55,835
But he and Charlie
were different,
793
00:38:55,869 --> 00:38:58,571
but they liked each other.
794
00:38:58,605 --> 00:39:00,807
They got a kick
out of each other.
795
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:04,844
Narrator: Two weeks before
the Tate-LaBianca murders,
796
00:39:04,878 --> 00:39:08,682
Bobby Beausoleil killed
a man named Gary Hinman.
797
00:39:11,985 --> 00:39:13,687
- After we entered the home,
798
00:39:13,720 --> 00:39:15,722
we saw signs of a struggle,
799
00:39:15,755 --> 00:39:17,924
and it appeared as though
there had been
800
00:39:17,957 --> 00:39:20,060
some degree of violence.
801
00:39:20,093 --> 00:39:21,961
Narrator: Charles Manson
and Bobby Beausoleil
802
00:39:21,995 --> 00:39:25,999
held Hinman hostage
in a dispute over a drug deal.
803
00:39:26,032 --> 00:39:28,735
Beausoleil eventually
killed Hinman
804
00:39:28,768 --> 00:39:30,737
and staged the crime scene
to look like
805
00:39:30,770 --> 00:39:33,106
the Black Panthers
committed the murder.
806
00:39:33,139 --> 00:39:35,742
The goal was to point
the finger at someone
807
00:39:35,775 --> 00:39:37,977
other than Manson
and his family.
808
00:39:38,011 --> 00:39:40,013
And since Manson
was having a dispute
809
00:39:40,046 --> 00:39:41,815
with the Black Panthers,
810
00:39:41,848 --> 00:39:44,918
it seemed like they were
the most obvious choice.
811
00:39:44,951 --> 00:39:48,221
- They put signs on the walls
to indicate
812
00:39:48,254 --> 00:39:49,923
that it was a Black Panther.
813
00:39:53,126 --> 00:39:55,995
- At the Hinman murder,
you have Beausoleil writing
814
00:39:56,029 --> 00:39:58,898
"political piggy"
in Hinman's blood
815
00:39:58,932 --> 00:40:01,801
and then putting paw prints.
816
00:40:01,835 --> 00:40:03,136
- Clearly they were trying
817
00:40:03,169 --> 00:40:06,039
to point suspicion
at the Black Panthers.
818
00:40:07,140 --> 00:40:08,875
Narrator:
Bobby Beausoleil committing
819
00:40:08,908 --> 00:40:10,910
that first murder
was a turning point
820
00:40:10,944 --> 00:40:13,146
for the women.
821
00:40:13,179 --> 00:40:16,182
Now they had to decide
how far they were willing
822
00:40:16,216 --> 00:40:18,084
to go to defend the group
823
00:40:18,118 --> 00:40:21,254
and prove their commitment
to Manson.
824
00:40:21,287 --> 00:40:24,190
- Whenever you have these
so-called normal people
825
00:40:24,224 --> 00:40:27,093
doing these extraordinarily
brutal things,
826
00:40:27,127 --> 00:40:31,765
it's a threat that has been
usually manipulated.
827
00:40:31,798 --> 00:40:34,901
- Charlie told me that I had
to be willing to kill
828
00:40:34,934 --> 00:40:38,705
in order to not be killed.
829
00:40:38,738 --> 00:40:40,073
Narrator:
When Bobby Beausoleil
830
00:40:40,106 --> 00:40:42,876
was arrested,
Manson had everything
831
00:40:42,909 --> 00:40:46,680
he needed to convince
the family to kill for him.
832
00:40:47,814 --> 00:40:50,016
The women thought
the revolution had begun.
833
00:40:50,050 --> 00:40:52,052
Their enemy
was the Black Panthers,
834
00:40:52,085 --> 00:40:56,022
and now Bobby Beausoleil
needed their help.
835
00:40:56,056 --> 00:40:58,191
♪ ♪
836
00:40:58,224 --> 00:41:01,027
- The catalyst for the murders
837
00:41:01,061 --> 00:41:04,531
was Bobby Beausoleil
being arrested
838
00:41:04,564 --> 00:41:06,866
for the Hinman murder.
839
00:41:06,900 --> 00:41:10,236
Narrator: Manson had convinced
them that they were at war.
840
00:41:11,971 --> 00:41:14,107
They planned a mission
to kill more people
841
00:41:14,140 --> 00:41:17,844
to frame their enemies
and free Bobby Beausoleil.
842
00:41:19,112 --> 00:41:20,914
- It's not a coincidence
that they went out
843
00:41:20,947 --> 00:41:23,083
and committed those murders
two days after learning
844
00:41:23,116 --> 00:41:25,185
that Bobby Beausoleil
had been arrested.
845
00:41:25,218 --> 00:41:29,923
It was a copycat crime
designed... poorly designed
846
00:41:29,956 --> 00:41:32,826
to make the authorities think
that the killer of Gary Hinman
847
00:41:32,859 --> 00:41:34,794
was still at large
and that they would thus
848
00:41:34,828 --> 00:41:37,997
release Bobby Beausoleil,
which was kind of naive.
849
00:41:38,031 --> 00:41:41,234
- They were doing a job
for Charlie.
850
00:41:41,267 --> 00:41:44,871
Pit bulls, they make
wonderful, loyal dogs,
851
00:41:44,904 --> 00:41:47,107
and if somebody's threatening
their master,
852
00:41:47,140 --> 00:41:48,842
they're dangerous.
853
00:41:48,875 --> 00:41:51,177
I think it explains
some of what happened.
854
00:41:51,211 --> 00:41:55,148
- There was this extra energy
about "Bobby's been arrested."
855
00:41:55,181 --> 00:41:58,284
- I wanted to ask Charlie,
"What's going on with Bobby?"
856
00:41:58,318 --> 00:42:00,854
And he said, "He got arrested,"
857
00:42:00,887 --> 00:42:02,922
and I said,
"Well, is he in jail?"
858
00:42:02,956 --> 00:42:04,157
He goes, "Yeah, he's in jail,"
859
00:42:04,190 --> 00:42:06,059
and I said,
"Well, I'll go visit him.
860
00:42:06,092 --> 00:42:07,827
What jail is he in?"
861
00:42:07,861 --> 00:42:09,005
He goes, "I've got this covered.
862
00:42:09,029 --> 00:42:10,163
You stay out of it."
863
00:42:12,032 --> 00:42:14,134
narrator:
Events had escalated quickly,
864
00:42:14,167 --> 00:42:18,238
and some would say Manson
was completely unhinged.
865
00:42:19,272 --> 00:42:21,241
- It's power and anger
866
00:42:21,274 --> 00:42:23,343
he had at institutions.
867
00:42:23,376 --> 00:42:26,880
I think what's more important
and more dangerous
868
00:42:26,913 --> 00:42:29,849
and has more implications
for our world
869
00:42:29,883 --> 00:42:33,953
is his subjects,
and that's scary.
870
00:42:33,987 --> 00:42:35,855
Because we'd like to think
871
00:42:35,889 --> 00:42:38,124
they're real different
than us, and they aren't.
872
00:42:39,893 --> 00:42:43,363
- How can you put
the finger at us
873
00:42:43,396 --> 00:42:47,200
and call us evil
for being good soldiers
874
00:42:47,233 --> 00:42:49,903
and doing what needed
to be done?
875
00:42:49,936 --> 00:42:52,272
[suspenseful music]
876
00:42:52,305 --> 00:42:55,008
- It's more frightening
because it's women.
877
00:42:55,041 --> 00:42:58,978
- We got stopped
and went to jail.
878
00:42:59,012 --> 00:43:01,381
It was that night
that the murders happened.
879
00:43:01,414 --> 00:43:04,317
- Sharon Tate was
8 1/2 months pregnant.
880
00:43:04,351 --> 00:43:07,821
- Manson's influence
over these women
881
00:43:07,854 --> 00:43:10,190
was so strong that they believed
882
00:43:10,223 --> 00:43:12,125
what they were doing
was the right thing.
883
00:43:12,158 --> 00:43:15,362
They had depersonalized
the victims.
884
00:43:15,395 --> 00:43:18,832
In that moment, a person
has a conscious choice
885
00:43:18,865 --> 00:43:22,869
to do something that is
so against human nature,
886
00:43:22,902 --> 00:43:25,038
to kill someone.
887
00:43:32,445 --> 00:43:33,445
[dramatic music]
888
00:43:35,382 --> 00:43:42,389
♪ ♪
889
00:43:45,025 --> 00:43:49,229
- I have very strong feelings
about what... the women
890
00:43:49,262 --> 00:43:51,131
who committed the murders,
891
00:43:51,164 --> 00:43:54,267
but I also do believe
that there's abuse involved
892
00:43:54,300 --> 00:43:58,171
and you act in a certain way
893
00:43:58,204 --> 00:44:01,341
that otherwise
you would not act.
894
00:44:01,374 --> 00:44:03,309
Narrator:
Over the course of two years,
895
00:44:03,343 --> 00:44:07,080
Charles Manson used fear
and isolation to convince
896
00:44:07,113 --> 00:44:09,249
his followers
that they were in danger
897
00:44:09,282 --> 00:44:13,053
and had to kill in order
to defend themselves.
898
00:44:13,086 --> 00:44:16,289
The first group of people
he chose to commit murder
899
00:44:16,322 --> 00:44:18,992
were family members Tex Watson,
900
00:44:19,025 --> 00:44:21,428
Patricia Krenwinkel,
Susan Atkins,
901
00:44:21,461 --> 00:44:23,329
and Linda Kasabian.
902
00:44:25,465 --> 00:44:29,436
- Tex Watson, I mean,
he was really the one
903
00:44:29,469 --> 00:44:32,038
who was the ringleader,
if you will,
904
00:44:32,072 --> 00:44:34,474
of the most violent,
horrendous murders.
905
00:44:34,507 --> 00:44:36,776
Tex had come from a very strict
906
00:44:36,810 --> 00:44:39,045
family upbringing back in Texas,
907
00:44:39,079 --> 00:44:42,148
and I think he was happy to be
out from under that thumb.
908
00:44:42,182 --> 00:44:45,518
And he just felt love,
909
00:44:45,552 --> 00:44:47,287
as he said
all these years later,
910
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:49,456
love from Charlie,
acceptance from Charlie.
911
00:44:49,489 --> 00:44:52,759
And he was
sort of Charlie's wingman,
912
00:44:52,792 --> 00:44:54,994
for lack of better words.
913
00:44:56,529 --> 00:44:58,198
Narrator: Like Tex,
914
00:44:58,231 --> 00:45:00,200
Susan Atkins, nicknamed Sadie,
915
00:45:00,233 --> 00:45:04,070
was blinded by Manson's words
of love and acceptance.
916
00:45:04,104 --> 00:45:06,106
She had been abandoned
by her family
917
00:45:06,139 --> 00:45:07,774
at the age of 18.
918
00:45:09,075 --> 00:45:12,345
- Susan was quirky.
919
00:45:12,379 --> 00:45:15,982
Susan would irritate
the hell out of you.
920
00:45:16,016 --> 00:45:18,985
- I willingly got into something
921
00:45:19,019 --> 00:45:21,821
that completely took control
over me.
922
00:45:21,855 --> 00:45:25,091
You take away
a person's conscience
923
00:45:25,125 --> 00:45:27,527
of right and wrong
by telling them
924
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:32,499
when they're under LSD
or any mind-expanding drug,
925
00:45:32,532 --> 00:45:35,001
"There's no such thing
as guilt."
926
00:45:36,369 --> 00:45:40,840
- Charlie, he would hold
our fingers over candle flames
927
00:45:40,874 --> 00:45:44,177
and tell us
that it's just... you know,
928
00:45:44,210 --> 00:45:47,013
it's all in our head
that that hurts.
929
00:45:47,047 --> 00:45:49,258
- You don't like the feeling
of guilt, so it's easy to say,
930
00:45:49,282 --> 00:45:50,850
"Yeah, there's no such thing
as guilt.
931
00:45:50,884 --> 00:45:52,561
"I'll believe
there's no such thing as guilt.
932
00:45:52,585 --> 00:45:56,289
Therefore I can do anything
and not feel guilty about it."
933
00:45:58,158 --> 00:46:00,860
[solemn music]
934
00:46:00,894 --> 00:46:04,497
- I've come to the realization
that they really...
935
00:46:04,531 --> 00:46:06,866
they really believed
hook, line, and sinker
936
00:46:06,900 --> 00:46:11,171
that death didn't mean anything.
937
00:46:11,204 --> 00:46:13,139
Narrator: Like many
of the other women,
938
00:46:13,173 --> 00:46:15,542
Patricia Krenwinkel,
nicknamed Katie,
939
00:46:15,575 --> 00:46:18,111
grew up feeling
like an outsider.
940
00:46:18,144 --> 00:46:20,847
- Patty Krenwinkel,
really of all the girls,
941
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:24,484
I think
the most dramatic difference,
942
00:46:24,517 --> 00:46:27,153
that she of all the girls
943
00:46:27,187 --> 00:46:30,290
could have committed murders.
944
00:46:30,323 --> 00:46:34,394
♪ ♪
945
00:46:34,427 --> 00:46:37,530
- Pat was working
for an insurance company.
946
00:46:37,564 --> 00:46:40,433
She was tired of that.
947
00:46:42,469 --> 00:46:45,372
She'd walk along the beach,
and she'd imagine
948
00:46:45,405 --> 00:46:48,174
just walking off into the water.
949
00:46:48,208 --> 00:46:53,646
♪ ♪
950
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:58,118
Her sister was a heroin addict.
951
00:46:58,151 --> 00:47:01,254
Her parents had divorced.
952
00:47:01,287 --> 00:47:05,658
She had everything
but a feeling of home,
953
00:47:05,692 --> 00:47:07,594
you know.
954
00:47:07,627 --> 00:47:10,196
- As a child, she was teased
955
00:47:10,230 --> 00:47:14,200
and she wasn't treated well
and she just didn't fit in.
956
00:47:14,234 --> 00:47:17,337
♪ ♪
957
00:47:20,407 --> 00:47:23,143
narrator: Linda Kasabian
was a young single mother
958
00:47:23,176 --> 00:47:25,412
who was homeless
and joined the group
959
00:47:25,445 --> 00:47:28,581
a month before
the Tate-LaBianca murders.
960
00:47:30,650 --> 00:47:33,620
- Linda Kasabian
joined the group.
961
00:47:33,653 --> 00:47:35,522
She was just lost.
962
00:47:43,163 --> 00:47:46,132
[ominous music]
963
00:47:46,166 --> 00:47:53,173
♪ ♪
964
00:47:53,973 --> 00:47:57,243
- I had been on the ranch.
It was really, really hot.
965
00:47:58,978 --> 00:48:01,314
I had just taken
a nice cold shower,
966
00:48:01,348 --> 00:48:04,517
and I was like, "I would like
to get away from the heat."
967
00:48:04,551 --> 00:48:06,252
narrator: In the meantime,
968
00:48:06,286 --> 00:48:08,421
Blue and another woman
from the group
969
00:48:08,455 --> 00:48:12,525
had just been arrested
for using stolen credit cards.
970
00:48:12,559 --> 00:48:16,663
- We got stopped
and ditched the credit cards
971
00:48:16,696 --> 00:48:19,666
and went to jail.
972
00:48:19,699 --> 00:48:22,736
I think it was that night
that the murders happened.
973
00:48:22,769 --> 00:48:25,205
Narrator: On the night
Sharon Tate and her friends
974
00:48:25,238 --> 00:48:26,339
were murdered,
975
00:48:26,373 --> 00:48:27,741
Manson spoke to Tex, Patricia,
976
00:48:27,774 --> 00:48:30,310
Sadie, and Linda but was careful
977
00:48:30,343 --> 00:48:33,413
not to give them
explicit instructions.
978
00:48:33,446 --> 00:48:36,216
- Charlie said different
things to different people
979
00:48:36,249 --> 00:48:37,984
depending on who they were
980
00:48:38,018 --> 00:48:40,387
to get the effect
that he wanted.
981
00:48:40,420 --> 00:48:44,324
- He made each one feel like
the special one,
982
00:48:44,357 --> 00:48:47,560
and that was just
a manipulation tactic.
983
00:48:47,594 --> 00:48:50,196
This is how pimps
control their women.
984
00:48:50,230 --> 00:48:55,368
- Manson did evidently say,
"Do what has to be done."
985
00:48:55,402 --> 00:48:59,739
- I mean, people think
that the murders
986
00:48:59,773 --> 00:49:03,209
were committed by people
who were bloodthirsty.
987
00:49:03,243 --> 00:49:05,245
They were not.
988
00:49:05,278 --> 00:49:07,280
They weren't bloodthirsty.
989
00:49:07,313 --> 00:49:09,516
They were doing
whatever they had to do.
990
00:49:09,549 --> 00:49:12,585
- War is not murder.
991
00:49:12,619 --> 00:49:15,588
[tense music]
992
00:49:15,622 --> 00:49:20,427
♪ ♪
993
00:49:20,460 --> 00:49:23,463
- There are many theories
as to why the group went
994
00:49:23,496 --> 00:49:27,300
to the Tate estate
and that house on that night.
995
00:49:27,334 --> 00:49:30,303
♪ ♪
996
00:49:30,337 --> 00:49:32,739
A lot of people are convinced
it had to do with
997
00:49:32,772 --> 00:49:37,344
Manson's music being rejected
by Terry Melcher,
998
00:49:37,377 --> 00:49:39,412
who had lived in that house.
999
00:49:39,446 --> 00:49:41,548
I don't believe
the women knew that
1000
00:49:41,581 --> 00:49:46,286
and I doubt that Manson knew
who Sharon Tate was.
1001
00:49:46,319 --> 00:49:49,723
She was just really pretty,
a very talented actress,
1002
00:49:49,756 --> 00:49:52,425
and people really loved her.
1003
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:56,563
- They had Tex
as their pseudo-leader
1004
00:49:56,596 --> 00:49:59,366
telling them,
"Follow through with this,
1005
00:49:59,399 --> 00:50:01,735
and I'll be there to help
make sure you get it done."
1006
00:50:01,768 --> 00:50:04,371
♪ ♪
1007
00:50:21,121 --> 00:50:23,356
narrator:
Steven Parent was a teenager
1008
00:50:23,390 --> 00:50:25,492
who happened to be leaving
the property
1009
00:50:25,525 --> 00:50:29,696
at the same time the killers
were walking up the driveway.
1010
00:50:30,797 --> 00:50:33,833
- Watson shot him four times
at point-blank range.
1011
00:50:35,769 --> 00:50:36,803
[gunshot]
1012
00:50:36,836 --> 00:50:40,473
♪ ♪
1013
00:50:40,507 --> 00:50:44,411
- Steve Parent was absolutely
the definition
1014
00:50:44,444 --> 00:50:46,813
of the kid in the wrong place
at the wrong time,
1015
00:50:46,846 --> 00:50:48,415
just assassinated.
1016
00:50:50,750 --> 00:50:54,387
- When they got to the house,
1017
00:50:54,421 --> 00:50:56,790
Frykowski was asleep
on the front sofa.
1018
00:50:57,724 --> 00:50:59,492
Narrator:
Wojciech Frykowski was
1019
00:50:59,526 --> 00:51:02,429
Sharon Tate's houseguest
who had fallen asleep
1020
00:51:02,462 --> 00:51:04,898
in the living room.
1021
00:51:04,931 --> 00:51:07,634
- Krenwinkel and Atkins
went through looking
1022
00:51:07,667 --> 00:51:09,436
for other people in the house.
1023
00:51:09,469 --> 00:51:12,439
[sinister music]
1024
00:51:12,472 --> 00:51:15,442
♪ ♪
1025
00:51:15,475 --> 00:51:19,779
They walked past Folger,
who was in bed reading.
1026
00:51:21,581 --> 00:51:23,616
Narrator:
Abigail Folger, the heiress
1027
00:51:23,650 --> 00:51:25,452
to the Folgers Coffee fortune,
1028
00:51:25,485 --> 00:51:27,854
was also staying at the house.
1029
00:51:27,887 --> 00:51:31,424
- Sharon Tate was in bed,
1030
00:51:31,458 --> 00:51:35,495
and on the foot of her bed
was Jay Sebring.
1031
00:51:35,528 --> 00:51:38,465
Narrator: Jay Sebring
was a celebrity hairstylist
1032
00:51:38,498 --> 00:51:41,534
and Sharon Tate's
closest friend.
1033
00:52:01,921 --> 00:52:04,891
[malevolent music]
1034
00:52:04,924 --> 00:52:08,862
♪ ♪
1035
00:52:08,895 --> 00:52:11,931
- And Sharon Tate
was 8 1/2 months pregnant.
1036
00:52:13,933 --> 00:52:17,470
Watson tied this long rope
he had...
1037
00:52:19,639 --> 00:52:22,509
One end around Sebring's neck.
1038
00:52:22,542 --> 00:52:24,411
He threw it over the high beam
1039
00:52:24,444 --> 00:52:27,514
and tied the other end
around Sharon Tate's neck.
1040
00:52:27,547 --> 00:52:28,915
[distorted scream]
1041
00:52:28,948 --> 00:52:30,650
Watson took his gun
1042
00:52:30,684 --> 00:52:34,888
and smashed Sebring in the face
1043
00:52:34,921 --> 00:52:39,926
and stabbed him and shot him,
1044
00:52:39,959 --> 00:52:40,927
killing him.
1045
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:42,529
[gunshot]
1046
00:52:51,571 --> 00:52:54,741
- Abigail Folger ran
out of the back of the house,
1047
00:52:54,774 --> 00:52:57,744
Krenwinkel chasing her
with an upraised knife,
1048
00:52:57,777 --> 00:53:02,649
finally catching her
on the front lawn.
1049
00:53:02,682 --> 00:53:07,287
Frykowski got out,
Watson chasing him
1050
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:09,889
with a knife and a gun,
1051
00:53:09,923 --> 00:53:12,258
catching him in the front yard.
1052
00:53:43,990 --> 00:53:46,793
- Sharon Tate
is about to give birth,
1053
00:53:46,826 --> 00:53:51,031
and she's faced
with this murderer.
1054
00:53:51,064 --> 00:53:54,067
And all she wants to do is,
1055
00:53:54,100 --> 00:53:57,337
"Please save my child."
1056
00:53:57,370 --> 00:54:00,740
And she begs,
"Just let me have my child.
1057
00:54:00,774 --> 00:54:02,709
Please let me have my baby."
1058
00:54:04,711 --> 00:54:07,647
- Atkins said, "Look, bitch,
1059
00:54:07,681 --> 00:54:10,617
"I don't care about you
or your baby.
1060
00:54:10,650 --> 00:54:13,353
"You're gonna die, and you
better be ready for it,
1061
00:54:13,386 --> 00:54:15,055
and I don't feel a thing
about it."
1062
00:54:23,730 --> 00:54:24,730
[dramatic music]
1063
00:54:26,666 --> 00:54:30,070
♪ ♪
1064
00:54:30,103 --> 00:54:34,407
- It's so hard to believe
a woman could have
1065
00:54:34,441 --> 00:54:38,411
these up-close, personal,
intimate murders
1066
00:54:38,445 --> 00:54:40,413
and not feel anything.
1067
00:54:40,447 --> 00:54:44,584
- It must have been
so absolutely horrifying.
1068
00:54:44,617 --> 00:54:48,121
To think Sharon Tate
is about to give birth,
1069
00:54:48,154 --> 00:54:52,992
and she's faced
with this murderer.
1070
00:54:53,026 --> 00:54:56,129
[menacing music]
1071
00:54:56,162 --> 00:55:00,667
She's laughed at
before she's killed
1072
00:55:00,700 --> 00:55:03,970
and that knife is plunged
into her belly.
1073
00:55:04,004 --> 00:55:07,674
I mean, I don't think
we can imagine it.
1074
00:55:07,707 --> 00:55:10,377
I don't think we can
put ourselves there.
1075
00:55:10,410 --> 00:55:12,379
I just don't think we can.
1076
00:55:12,412 --> 00:55:14,681
The horror
that she must have felt...
1077
00:55:31,064 --> 00:55:35,402
- Susan talked about
thinking about cutting out
1078
00:55:35,435 --> 00:55:38,872
Sharon Tate's baby
and saving it.
1079
00:55:38,905 --> 00:55:42,742
It's just... I have no idea
1080
00:55:42,776 --> 00:55:44,144
how they could have done that.
1081
00:55:55,188 --> 00:55:56,990
[tense music]
1082
00:55:57,023 --> 00:55:59,025
- Atkins got a towel
1083
00:55:59,059 --> 00:56:01,194
and dipped it
in Sharon Tate's blood
1084
00:56:01,227 --> 00:56:03,496
and went out
and wrote the word "pig"
1085
00:56:03,530 --> 00:56:04,831
on the front door.
1086
00:56:04,864 --> 00:56:08,768
♪ ♪
1087
00:56:08,802 --> 00:56:12,038
- They felt
what they did was right.
1088
00:56:12,072 --> 00:56:14,207
If I ever had to,
1089
00:56:14,240 --> 00:56:19,913
I hoped that I could be
that fierce.
1090
00:56:19,946 --> 00:56:22,882
- You want to talk
about devils and demonic
1091
00:56:22,916 --> 00:56:27,687
and immoral and evil,
go to Hollywood.
1092
00:56:27,721 --> 00:56:31,858
We don't touch the rotten
horribleness of that world,
1093
00:56:31,891 --> 00:56:33,927
don't even skim it.
1094
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:36,463
However, we did skim it.
1095
00:56:38,064 --> 00:56:41,134
Yeah, yeah, we touched it...
1096
00:56:41,167 --> 00:56:42,702
touched it.
1097
00:56:42,736 --> 00:56:44,904
It needed to be touched.
1098
00:56:44,938 --> 00:56:49,209
♪ ♪
1099
00:56:49,242 --> 00:56:51,144
- Friday night in Los Angeles,
1100
00:56:51,177 --> 00:56:54,147
a movie actress and four
of her friends were murdered,
1101
00:56:54,180 --> 00:56:56,850
and the circumstances
were lurid.
1102
00:56:58,518 --> 00:57:00,186
Narrator:
The day after the murders,
1103
00:57:00,220 --> 00:57:03,223
the women who had participated
kept to themselves
1104
00:57:03,256 --> 00:57:05,825
under strict instructions
from Manson
1105
00:57:05,859 --> 00:57:08,495
not to talk about what happened.
1106
00:57:08,528 --> 00:57:11,264
- I didn't know
what really happened,
1107
00:57:11,297 --> 00:57:14,501
and Charlie, by that time,
1108
00:57:14,534 --> 00:57:17,137
was using
his need-to-know basis.
1109
00:57:17,170 --> 00:57:18,905
You know, you talk to the people
1110
00:57:18,938 --> 00:57:20,206
that need to know
1111
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:23,076
and only the people
that need to know.
1112
00:57:23,109 --> 00:57:26,112
Narrator: Five brutal murders
had already occurred,
1113
00:57:26,146 --> 00:57:29,282
but the next day,
Manson was ready for more.
1114
00:57:29,315 --> 00:57:30,984
He convinced the group
1115
00:57:31,017 --> 00:57:33,119
that the revolution
was escalating
1116
00:57:33,153 --> 00:57:37,257
and their part
was far from over.
1117
00:57:37,290 --> 00:57:40,226
In this interview from 1969,
1118
00:57:40,260 --> 00:57:45,165
Leslie Van Houten explained
how Manson primed her to kill.
1119
00:57:45,198 --> 00:57:48,068
[somber music]
1120
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:17,964
- I still cannot believe
that, you know,
1121
00:58:17,997 --> 00:58:20,834
she allowed Charlie
to manipulate her
1122
00:58:20,867 --> 00:58:24,938
to that extent that she would
actually murder for him.
1123
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:28,975
I don't know
how she could have gotten
1124
00:58:29,009 --> 00:58:30,276
to that point.
1125
00:58:36,850 --> 00:58:40,153
♪ ♪
1126
00:58:40,186 --> 00:58:43,056
- It was kill or be killed.
1127
00:58:43,089 --> 00:58:45,225
That was what drove them on.
1128
00:58:48,161 --> 00:58:50,630
It's that feeling of threat
from the outside,
1129
00:58:50,663 --> 00:58:53,133
and Manson was so good
at manipulating.
1130
00:58:54,401 --> 00:58:56,336
- How do we look at these people
1131
00:58:56,369 --> 00:59:00,073
who commit certain types
of crimes under this duress
1132
00:59:00,106 --> 00:59:02,976
of being undue influence
of someone else.
1133
00:59:12,252 --> 00:59:15,355
- In that moment,
a person has a choice
1134
00:59:15,388 --> 00:59:18,191
to do a good thing
or a bad thing.
1135
00:59:18,224 --> 00:59:21,127
When you are making
a conscious choice
1136
00:59:21,161 --> 00:59:23,396
to kill someone,
1137
00:59:23,430 --> 00:59:26,700
you are faced with consequences.
1138
00:59:26,733 --> 00:59:29,703
[lively music]
1139
00:59:29,736 --> 00:59:33,206
♪ ♪
1140
00:59:33,239 --> 00:59:35,008
- They drove around that night
1141
00:59:35,041 --> 00:59:39,045
looking for a house to hit,
basically.
1142
00:59:39,079 --> 00:59:40,280
And Charlie had looked
1143
00:59:40,313 --> 00:59:42,082
at a couple of different houses.
1144
00:59:42,115 --> 00:59:44,384
♪ ♪
1145
00:59:44,417 --> 00:59:46,653
- They went to Waverly Drive,
1146
00:59:46,686 --> 00:59:52,158
and some of the girls had been
to the house next door before.
1147
00:59:54,994 --> 00:59:56,429
Narrator:
It was time for a second
1148
00:59:56,463 --> 01:00:00,133
lethal home invasion.
1149
01:00:00,166 --> 01:00:02,202
This time, the group
broke into the home
1150
01:00:02,235 --> 01:00:06,206
of Leno and Rosemary LaBianca.
1151
01:00:06,239 --> 01:00:09,976
- The LaBiancas
were really nice people.
1152
01:00:10,010 --> 01:00:14,047
Leno was a corporate executive,
1153
01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:17,350
and Rosemary had been
a waitress.
1154
01:00:17,384 --> 01:00:21,354
And he met her at a restaurant
and fell in love with her.
1155
01:00:23,423 --> 01:00:25,125
Narrator:
The three family members
1156
01:00:25,158 --> 01:00:27,193
who were chosen to kill
the LaBiancas
1157
01:00:27,227 --> 01:00:28,928
on the night of August 10th
1158
01:00:28,962 --> 01:00:31,164
were Tex Watson,
Patricia Krenwinkel,
1159
01:00:31,197 --> 01:00:34,034
and, for the first time,
Leslie Van Houten.
1160
01:00:34,067 --> 01:00:37,037
[eerie music]
1161
01:00:37,070 --> 01:00:39,372
♪ ♪
1162
01:00:39,406 --> 01:00:42,175
- When they went in,
Krenwinkel immediately went
1163
01:00:42,208 --> 01:00:44,778
to the kitchen to get
kitchen knives
1164
01:00:44,811 --> 01:00:46,980
for herself and Van Houten.
1165
01:00:47,013 --> 01:00:49,349
♪ ♪
1166
01:00:49,382 --> 01:00:54,120
Van Houten and Krenwinkel
took Rosemary into the bedroom.
1167
01:00:55,221 --> 01:00:58,058
And Van Houten unplugged a lamp
1168
01:00:58,091 --> 01:01:00,994
that was on the table
next to the bed...
1169
01:01:03,196 --> 01:01:07,000
And put a pillowcase
over Rosemary's head
1170
01:01:07,033 --> 01:01:09,769
and then wrapped
the lamp cord around her neck.
1171
01:01:11,271 --> 01:01:14,307
Rosemary heard Leno
getting stabbed to death
1172
01:01:14,341 --> 01:01:20,080
in the living room and she got
a sudden burst of energy
1173
01:01:20,113 --> 01:01:24,184
and rose up from the bed
and screamed out,
1174
01:01:24,217 --> 01:01:25,352
"Leno, Leno!"
1175
01:01:25,385 --> 01:01:32,292
♪ ♪
1176
01:01:32,325 --> 01:01:34,494
- I mean, I've looked
at a lot of crime scene photos,
1177
01:01:34,527 --> 01:01:37,530
and these are just
the most horrific.
1178
01:01:37,564 --> 01:01:39,532
♪ ♪
1179
01:01:39,566 --> 01:01:41,434
- Krenwinkel wrote
"death to pigs"
1180
01:01:41,468 --> 01:01:45,772
and on the refrigerator wrote
"helter skelter."
1181
01:01:45,805 --> 01:01:48,508
- Tex, he had newspaper,
and he slapped it,
1182
01:01:48,541 --> 01:01:52,512
and he said, "I did this.
Charlie told me to."
1183
01:01:52,545 --> 01:01:55,348
- I wasn't ready for killing.
1184
01:01:55,382 --> 01:01:59,119
I hoped that if I needed to,
I would.
1185
01:02:06,526 --> 01:02:07,526
[dramatic music]
1186
01:02:09,462 --> 01:02:16,436
♪ ♪
1187
01:02:16,469 --> 01:02:19,572
- I mean, I've looked
at a lot of crime scene photos
1188
01:02:19,606 --> 01:02:21,574
as a federal prosecutor,
1189
01:02:21,608 --> 01:02:25,345
and these are just
the most horrific.
1190
01:02:25,378 --> 01:02:29,315
And it's hard to imagine
that the people
1191
01:02:29,349 --> 01:02:33,253
who are responsible for them
are these young
1192
01:02:33,286 --> 01:02:36,423
sort of flighty young women,
1193
01:02:36,456 --> 01:02:39,893
but that's the reality.
1194
01:02:39,926 --> 01:02:43,263
Those are the murderers
right there.
1195
01:02:44,330 --> 01:02:46,199
Narrator: On the night
of August 10th,
1196
01:02:46,232 --> 01:02:49,169
the Manson Family broke
into a second affluent home,
1197
01:02:49,202 --> 01:02:51,938
this time slaughtering
husband and wife
1198
01:02:51,971 --> 01:02:55,108
Leno and Rosemary LaBianca.
1199
01:02:57,177 --> 01:02:59,879
- The thing that I have
the hardest time with
1200
01:02:59,913 --> 01:03:03,116
with the LaBiancas' murders was
1201
01:03:03,149 --> 01:03:05,885
Mrs. LaBianca hearing
her husband being killed
1202
01:03:05,919 --> 01:03:07,554
in the next room.
1203
01:03:07,587 --> 01:03:10,557
[harrowing music]
1204
01:03:10,590 --> 01:03:11,624
♪ ♪
1205
01:03:11,658 --> 01:03:13,326
- Watson came in,
1206
01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:16,129
and then Watson and Van Houten
proceeded
1207
01:03:16,162 --> 01:03:18,898
to stab Rosemary LaBianca
to death.
1208
01:03:18,932 --> 01:03:22,936
♪ ♪
1209
01:03:46,526 --> 01:03:49,496
[chilling music]
1210
01:03:49,529 --> 01:03:50,997
♪ ♪
1211
01:03:51,031 --> 01:03:54,501
- It's far more brutal
and gratuitous.
1212
01:03:54,534 --> 01:03:57,570
It's vicious,
even... almost more vicious.
1213
01:03:59,439 --> 01:04:02,409
- Krenwinkel went into
the LaBiancas' living room.
1214
01:04:02,442 --> 01:04:06,212
She took the tines
of a carving fork
1215
01:04:06,246 --> 01:04:10,984
and plunged it into his abdomen
1216
01:04:11,017 --> 01:04:14,688
and wrote in big letters
the word "war,"
1217
01:04:14,721 --> 01:04:19,292
W-A-R, etched into his abdomen.
1218
01:04:22,629 --> 01:04:25,598
[unsettling music]
1219
01:04:25,632 --> 01:04:27,500
♪ ♪
1220
01:04:27,534 --> 01:04:30,704
Krenwinkel, above the inside
part of the front door,
1221
01:04:30,737 --> 01:04:34,274
she wrote the wrote the word
"rise" in big letters
1222
01:04:34,307 --> 01:04:35,575
and on the living room wall
1223
01:04:35,608 --> 01:04:38,411
in big letters wrote
"death to pigs"
1224
01:04:38,445 --> 01:04:40,714
and the refrigerator wrote
1225
01:04:40,747 --> 01:04:45,285
"helter skelter,"
but she misspelled "helter."
1226
01:04:46,252 --> 01:04:49,522
Leslie took coins,
and when she got back
1227
01:04:49,556 --> 01:04:53,059
to the Spahn Ranch,
she went to a backhouse.
1228
01:04:53,093 --> 01:04:55,695
And the first thing
that Leslie did was,
1229
01:04:55,729 --> 01:04:58,264
she went out
and collected firewood.
1230
01:04:58,298 --> 01:05:02,035
♪ ♪
1231
01:05:02,068 --> 01:05:05,438
- I had woke up to find
Leslie burning stuff.
1232
01:05:05,472 --> 01:05:08,742
♪ ♪
1233
01:05:08,775 --> 01:05:11,544
She gave me a bag
with some coins in it,
1234
01:05:11,578 --> 01:05:13,613
you know, for candy.
1235
01:05:13,646 --> 01:05:15,348
They weren't acting weird.
1236
01:05:15,382 --> 01:05:18,651
They were just
kind of matter of fact.
1237
01:05:18,685 --> 01:05:21,354
I knew that they'd gone out
on some of these
1238
01:05:21,388 --> 01:05:24,724
creepy-crawly missions
where they dressed in black
1239
01:05:24,758 --> 01:05:26,993
and they would sneak
into people's homes
1240
01:05:27,027 --> 01:05:29,095
and rearrange stuff.
1241
01:05:29,129 --> 01:05:32,365
And I thought that
that was just some stuff
1242
01:05:32,399 --> 01:05:34,701
that, you know,
she had acquired through that.
1243
01:05:34,734 --> 01:05:37,704
[dramatic music]
1244
01:05:37,737 --> 01:05:42,275
♪ ♪
1245
01:05:42,308 --> 01:05:44,010
- We were an innocent country,
1246
01:05:44,044 --> 01:05:48,515
and what Charlie Manson
and the family did
1247
01:05:48,548 --> 01:05:53,286
those two nights...
1248
01:05:53,319 --> 01:05:55,488
really changed American culture.
1249
01:05:55,522 --> 01:05:57,624
People who didn't have
alarm systems
1250
01:05:57,657 --> 01:05:59,325
went out and got them.
1251
01:05:59,359 --> 01:06:01,027
I mean, moms who hadn't before
1252
01:06:01,061 --> 01:06:02,529
walked their kids to school
1253
01:06:02,562 --> 01:06:04,998
started walking
their kids to school.
1254
01:06:06,633 --> 01:06:09,102
Narrator: In the days
following the murders,
1255
01:06:09,135 --> 01:06:13,406
word began to circulate
around Spahn Ranch.
1256
01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:16,309
The women who had been
following Charles Manson
1257
01:06:16,343 --> 01:06:19,379
learned that their brothers
and sisters had committed
1258
01:06:19,412 --> 01:06:21,481
brutal acts of violence.
1259
01:06:21,514 --> 01:06:23,750
- Leno LaBianca,
supermarket owner,
1260
01:06:23,783 --> 01:06:26,586
and his wife had both
been stabbed to death
1261
01:06:26,619 --> 01:06:28,388
in their home.
1262
01:06:28,421 --> 01:06:29,465
Narrator: On the day
of the Tate murders,
1263
01:06:29,489 --> 01:06:30,690
Blue was arrested
1264
01:06:30,724 --> 01:06:32,726
for using stolen credit cards.
1265
01:06:32,759 --> 01:06:35,428
When she was released
a few days later,
1266
01:06:35,462 --> 01:06:37,797
she learned that members
of the family
1267
01:06:37,831 --> 01:06:39,733
had killed seven people.
1268
01:06:39,766 --> 01:06:42,068
- I was in jail
for a couple days,
1269
01:06:42,102 --> 01:06:43,536
got released.
1270
01:06:43,570 --> 01:06:46,373
I hitchhiked back from jail
by myself,
1271
01:06:46,406 --> 01:06:49,709
got an ice cream cone,
got off at the ranch.
1272
01:06:49,743 --> 01:06:52,579
Sadie couldn't wait
to spill her story.
1273
01:06:54,481 --> 01:06:56,750
Just because a person kills
1274
01:06:56,783 --> 01:07:00,587
does not make them evil and bad.
1275
01:07:00,620 --> 01:07:04,457
I knew these were warm, good...
1276
01:07:04,491 --> 01:07:09,696
I mean, Katie was one
of the most warm, gracious,
1277
01:07:09,729 --> 01:07:13,500
hospitable people I've ever met.
1278
01:07:14,634 --> 01:07:16,803
- These two crimes this weekend
1279
01:07:16,836 --> 01:07:19,406
so grotesquely similar.
1280
01:07:19,439 --> 01:07:21,641
- Tex, he had newspaper
in his hand,
1281
01:07:21,675 --> 01:07:25,845
and it had the headlines,
the Tate-LaBianca murders,
1282
01:07:25,879 --> 01:07:29,482
and a big headline,
and he slapped it, and he said,
1283
01:07:29,516 --> 01:07:33,453
"I did this,"
and, "Charlie told me to."
1284
01:07:33,486 --> 01:07:36,156
And so I think I read
a little bit about it,
1285
01:07:36,189 --> 01:07:38,625
and it was just, like, shocking.
1286
01:07:38,658 --> 01:07:42,696
I was totally traumatized
from then on and scared.
1287
01:07:42,729 --> 01:07:45,699
[dispiriting music]
1288
01:07:45,732 --> 01:07:47,701
♪ ♪
1289
01:07:47,734 --> 01:07:50,637
- The services for Ms. Tate,
a remarkably pretty actress
1290
01:07:50,670 --> 01:07:52,405
who was about to become
a mother,
1291
01:07:52,439 --> 01:07:54,641
were held in West Los Angeles.
1292
01:07:54,674 --> 01:07:56,876
♪ ♪
1293
01:07:56,910 --> 01:08:01,614
- I didn't... I didn't feel...
1294
01:08:01,648 --> 01:08:04,918
bad that these people were dead.
1295
01:08:04,951 --> 01:08:07,220
I didn't even know
they were alive.
1296
01:08:07,253 --> 01:08:10,256
But as far as killing goes,
1297
01:08:10,290 --> 01:08:12,826
I wasn't ready for killing.
1298
01:08:12,859 --> 01:08:16,663
I hoped that if I needed to,
I would.
1299
01:08:16,696 --> 01:08:19,199
♪ ♪
1300
01:08:19,232 --> 01:08:21,735
- I feel very, very sad
for the victims.
1301
01:08:21,768 --> 01:08:25,638
I can't... I can't... I was
so shut down during that time
1302
01:08:25,672 --> 01:08:27,540
that I can't...
it's just horrible.
1303
01:08:27,574 --> 01:08:31,745
I mean, just... I mean...
1304
01:08:31,778 --> 01:08:35,682
I just can't imagine...
1305
01:08:35,715 --> 01:08:39,452
how horrible their family feels
and everything.
1306
01:08:39,486 --> 01:08:41,855
You know,
I feel very sad for them.
1307
01:08:41,888 --> 01:08:44,524
And I also feel sad
for the young people
1308
01:08:44,557 --> 01:08:48,695
that were turned into murderers.
1309
01:08:50,530 --> 01:08:54,768
- You can't excuse somebody,
then, for going into the home
1310
01:08:54,801 --> 01:08:58,672
and brutally murdering
another human being.
1311
01:08:58,705 --> 01:08:59,906
You can't excuse it by saying,
1312
01:08:59,939 --> 01:09:01,808
"Oh, well,
they were brainwashed."
1313
01:09:01,841 --> 01:09:03,677
I'm sorry,
that doesn't excuse you.
1314
01:09:03,710 --> 01:09:05,578
They still committed the murder.
1315
01:09:08,915 --> 01:09:11,317
[suspenseful music]
1316
01:09:11,351 --> 01:09:13,987
The women,
they didn't show any remorse.
1317
01:09:14,020 --> 01:09:15,955
I mean, they just doubled down.
1318
01:09:15,989 --> 01:09:17,857
How frightening is that?
1319
01:09:17,891 --> 01:09:19,926
- I stood up and said,
1320
01:09:19,959 --> 01:09:21,895
"This court is a mockery
of justice."
1321
01:09:21,928 --> 01:09:23,596
- We were afraid
that the Manson Family
1322
01:09:23,630 --> 01:09:25,965
was going to get us.
1323
01:09:25,999 --> 01:09:28,635
- That was absolutely
terrifying.
1324
01:09:28,668 --> 01:09:30,804
- I was holding this huge gun,
1325
01:09:30,837 --> 01:09:34,541
and then I said to myself,
1326
01:09:34,574 --> 01:09:35,942
"Are you gonna shoot him?"
1327
01:09:43,717 --> 01:09:44,717
[dramatic music]
1328
01:09:46,653 --> 01:09:51,791
♪ ♪
1329
01:09:51,825 --> 01:09:54,861
narrator: One month after
the Tate and LaBianca murders,
1330
01:09:54,894 --> 01:09:57,263
the women of
the Manson Family were dealing
1331
01:09:57,297 --> 01:10:00,667
with the aftermath,
worried that authorities
1332
01:10:00,700 --> 01:10:02,969
could find them at any moment.
1333
01:10:03,003 --> 01:10:07,407
- There was this whole
different kind of energy,
1334
01:10:07,440 --> 01:10:09,976
and it didn't feel good.
1335
01:10:10,010 --> 01:10:12,946
Narrator: Manson was now
immersed in paranoia
1336
01:10:12,979 --> 01:10:15,582
and made the decision
to move the family
1337
01:10:15,615 --> 01:10:17,817
to an even more isolated ranch
1338
01:10:17,851 --> 01:10:22,288
located 200 miles away
in Death Valley.
1339
01:10:22,322 --> 01:10:24,824
- There was this frenetic energy
1340
01:10:24,858 --> 01:10:29,863
to create supplies
and a foundation or whatever
1341
01:10:29,896 --> 01:10:32,832
to move us to the desert.
1342
01:10:32,866 --> 01:10:37,704
- We were gathering
our last leather clothing
1343
01:10:37,737 --> 01:10:40,640
and whatever we needed
to live out in the desert.
1344
01:10:41,675 --> 01:10:43,977
Narrator: While the women
prepared to follow Manson
1345
01:10:44,010 --> 01:10:46,346
into further isolation,
1346
01:10:46,379 --> 01:10:49,716
Los Angeles authorities were
struggling to find the people
1347
01:10:49,749 --> 01:10:52,886
responsible
for the terrifying crimes.
1348
01:10:52,919 --> 01:10:55,855
[sullen music]
1349
01:10:55,889 --> 01:10:59,926
- The investigation really
was not going anywhere fast.
1350
01:10:59,959 --> 01:11:01,895
- Police searched the premises.
1351
01:11:01,928 --> 01:11:03,930
They found no evidence
of robbery,
1352
01:11:03,963 --> 01:11:05,965
no suggestion of motive.
1353
01:11:05,999 --> 01:11:08,468
- The police bungled the case,
1354
01:11:08,501 --> 01:11:13,640
completely... literally walking
over pieces of evidence.
1355
01:11:13,673 --> 01:11:16,343
It's one of these examples
where law enforcement just...
1356
01:11:16,376 --> 01:11:18,645
one arm wasn't talking
to the other arm.
1357
01:11:18,678 --> 01:11:20,880
- A baffling crime and bizarre.
1358
01:11:20,914 --> 01:11:24,784
♪ ♪
1359
01:11:24,818 --> 01:11:27,721
- And at this point,
nobody is interested
1360
01:11:27,754 --> 01:11:29,889
in Charles Manson.
1361
01:11:29,923 --> 01:11:32,726
Narrator: Not for murder,
but authorities did have
1362
01:11:32,759 --> 01:11:34,494
their sights on the family.
1363
01:11:34,527 --> 01:11:37,397
Police stormed the new hideout
1364
01:11:37,430 --> 01:11:40,400
and nabbed them
for stealing cars.
1365
01:11:41,501 --> 01:11:43,837
- They were arresting us
for grand larceny,
1366
01:11:43,870 --> 01:11:47,073
which I was in the
middle of washing my hair,
1367
01:11:47,107 --> 01:11:48,808
and a door blew open
1368
01:11:48,842 --> 01:11:51,945
and I've got a gun, you know,
pointed at me.
1369
01:11:51,978 --> 01:11:54,781
- The group was broken up
last October
1370
01:11:54,814 --> 01:11:56,683
after sheriff's deputies
investigated
1371
01:11:56,716 --> 01:11:58,451
a series of thefts.
1372
01:11:58,485 --> 01:11:59,986
- We're in Inyo County.
1373
01:12:00,020 --> 01:12:02,389
All the girls were
in the same cell together.
1374
01:12:03,556 --> 01:12:06,960
I was afraid to move.
I was afraid to talk.
1375
01:12:06,993 --> 01:12:09,829
I was just...
I think I was, like,
1376
01:12:09,863 --> 01:12:12,799
literally in shock, you know.
1377
01:12:12,832 --> 01:12:14,067
I just went along.
1378
01:12:14,100 --> 01:12:15,735
- Squeaky, at the time,
would just, like,
1379
01:12:15,769 --> 01:12:17,537
look at me like, "Shut up."
1380
01:12:17,570 --> 01:12:19,873
narrator: Four months
after the murders,
1381
01:12:19,906 --> 01:12:22,108
there was a breakthrough
in the case.
1382
01:12:22,142 --> 01:12:24,511
- It wasn't till December.
1383
01:12:24,544 --> 01:12:26,179
They'd taken Susan Atkins away
1384
01:12:26,212 --> 01:12:28,081
'cause she had a warrant out
for her arrest,
1385
01:12:28,114 --> 01:12:31,818
and that's when she started
telling this whole delusion
1386
01:12:31,851 --> 01:12:34,521
to her cellmate.
1387
01:12:34,554 --> 01:12:36,489
Narrator: Susan Atkins
was one of the four
1388
01:12:36,523 --> 01:12:38,158
who committed the Tate murders.
1389
01:12:40,126 --> 01:12:43,963
- Susan Atkins just randomly
starts speaking
1390
01:12:43,997 --> 01:12:47,834
to two of her cellmates
about the Tate murders.
1391
01:12:47,867 --> 01:12:51,071
That was a huge break
for the prosecution
1392
01:12:51,104 --> 01:12:55,875
when they heard that tip
from just a random conversation
1393
01:12:55,909 --> 01:12:57,444
heard in lockup.
1394
01:12:57,477 --> 01:12:58,978
That's really
what broke the case.
1395
01:12:59,012 --> 01:13:00,980
[ominous music]
1396
01:13:01,014 --> 01:13:05,151
- Charles Manson.
It stopped everything.
1397
01:13:05,185 --> 01:13:09,889
It had the same impact
as earlier that summer
1398
01:13:09,923 --> 01:13:12,559
watching the man on the moon.
1399
01:13:12,592 --> 01:13:16,062
- I was Charlie's legal writer
in the very beginning,
1400
01:13:16,096 --> 01:13:18,531
so I would hitchhike
with my baby
1401
01:13:18,565 --> 01:13:21,868
to the LA County Jail,
1402
01:13:21,901 --> 01:13:26,139
and I would, you know,
visit him in the attorney room.
1403
01:13:26,172 --> 01:13:29,142
[dramatic music]
1404
01:13:29,175 --> 01:13:31,911
♪ ♪
1405
01:13:31,945 --> 01:13:33,546
narrator:
During the Tate-LaBianca
1406
01:13:33,580 --> 01:13:35,582
murder trial,
some of the women remained
1407
01:13:35,615 --> 01:13:39,019
unapologetically devoted
to Manson.
1408
01:13:39,052 --> 01:13:42,989
- I didn't feel
I could judge them.
1409
01:13:43,023 --> 01:13:46,860
Now they say
that it was Charlie's fault.
1410
01:13:46,893 --> 01:13:50,964
Was he... should he have been
responsible for us?
1411
01:13:50,997 --> 01:13:54,567
Is he responsible for anything
1412
01:13:54,601 --> 01:13:56,836
that happened with us?
1413
01:13:56,870 --> 01:13:59,172
I don't feel like that.
1414
01:13:59,205 --> 01:14:02,108
We weren't raised by him.
1415
01:14:02,142 --> 01:14:04,044
He wasn't our leader.
1416
01:14:04,077 --> 01:14:06,946
People are what they are.
1417
01:14:08,214 --> 01:14:10,150
- They brought the rest of us up
1418
01:14:10,183 --> 01:14:12,118
to testify in front
of the grand jury,
1419
01:14:12,152 --> 01:14:15,155
and the bailiff asks,
you know, "Name?"
1420
01:14:15,188 --> 01:14:19,225
For the first time I say,
"Dianne Lake.
1421
01:14:19,259 --> 01:14:23,663
I'm 16,
and I want my mommy."
1422
01:14:23,697 --> 01:14:25,565
And I did. I was scared.
1423
01:14:25,598 --> 01:14:29,936
I felt alone and so vulnerable.
1424
01:14:29,969 --> 01:14:32,038
They quickly make me
a ward of the court
1425
01:14:32,072 --> 01:14:35,308
and send me off
for a 90-day observation
1426
01:14:35,342 --> 01:14:37,077
at Patton State Hospital,
1427
01:14:37,110 --> 01:14:40,547
which turned into, like,
nearly nine months.
1428
01:14:40,580 --> 01:14:42,615
I was coming out
of that psychosis.
1429
01:14:42,649 --> 01:14:45,185
- It took the grand jury
just 20 minutes
1430
01:14:45,218 --> 01:14:47,554
to agree that six members
of the hippie tribe
1431
01:14:47,587 --> 01:14:50,123
should be indicted
in the Sharon Tate murders
1432
01:14:50,156 --> 01:14:53,993
and those of a supermarket
owner and his wife.
1433
01:14:54,027 --> 01:14:55,628
Narrator:
Manson and five others
1434
01:14:55,662 --> 01:14:57,163
were indicted for murder
1435
01:14:57,197 --> 01:14:59,232
and conspiracy to commit murder.
1436
01:14:59,265 --> 01:15:01,701
And even though Manson
didn't hold a weapon
1437
01:15:01,735 --> 01:15:03,269
and wasn't on the scene,
1438
01:15:03,303 --> 01:15:06,106
he was charged
because there was no doubt
1439
01:15:06,139 --> 01:15:09,309
in prosecutors' minds
as to who was the mastermind
1440
01:15:09,342 --> 01:15:12,012
behind these horrific crimes.
1441
01:15:13,747 --> 01:15:15,882
- I stood up and said,
1442
01:15:15,915 --> 01:15:19,986
"The court is... this court
is a mockery of justice."
1443
01:15:20,020 --> 01:15:21,955
And another one of the women
stood up and said
1444
01:15:21,988 --> 01:15:24,190
something else,
and another one stood up
1445
01:15:24,224 --> 01:15:25,725
and said something else.
1446
01:15:25,759 --> 01:15:27,227
We might have done a day or two
1447
01:15:27,260 --> 01:15:29,129
or three days,
maybe four days in jail
1448
01:15:29,162 --> 01:15:30,997
for contempt of court.
1449
01:15:31,031 --> 01:15:35,902
After that, we were banned
from the courtroom.
1450
01:15:36,403 --> 01:15:41,274
We decided to do a vigil
on the street corner.
1451
01:15:41,307 --> 01:15:43,352
- Of course, everything was
about Charlie on the corner,
1452
01:15:43,376 --> 01:15:45,979
so it was about
getting Charlie out.
1453
01:15:47,714 --> 01:15:49,649
He was the person
that doesn't mind
1454
01:15:49,683 --> 01:15:53,119
who they put under the bus,
who gets killed,
1455
01:15:53,153 --> 01:15:58,024
who gets blamed
as long as he survives.
1456
01:15:58,992 --> 01:16:02,729
It's just pure
self-preservation.
1457
01:16:02,762 --> 01:16:06,399
- Young people starting
to stand up for themselves,
1458
01:16:06,433 --> 01:16:09,235
and it's always gratifying
to me to see it,
1459
01:16:09,269 --> 01:16:11,237
because that's us.
1460
01:16:11,271 --> 01:16:13,707
That's what we were doing.
1461
01:16:14,674 --> 01:16:16,643
- It was clear to everyone
in the courtroom
1462
01:16:16,676 --> 01:16:20,680
that Manson was calling
the shots.
1463
01:16:20,714 --> 01:16:22,716
Manson would stand up
and say something.
1464
01:16:22,749 --> 01:16:24,317
Then the three girls
would stand up
1465
01:16:24,351 --> 01:16:26,052
and say the same thing.
1466
01:16:26,086 --> 01:16:28,655
And Manson put an X
on his forehead,
1467
01:16:28,688 --> 01:16:32,258
and the next day, the girls
had Xs on their forehead.
1468
01:16:32,292 --> 01:16:34,327
- They're hiding the truth.
1469
01:16:34,361 --> 01:16:36,196
In the name of fair trial...
1470
01:16:36,229 --> 01:16:37,797
you know, there's no fair trial.
1471
01:16:37,831 --> 01:16:40,800
We X'd ourselves
out of the system.
1472
01:16:40,834 --> 01:16:43,303
- They played
right into our hands,
1473
01:16:43,336 --> 01:16:47,273
because we were trying to show
that he was the mastermind
1474
01:16:47,307 --> 01:16:49,242
and that he ordered
these murders.
1475
01:16:51,111 --> 01:16:53,747
- I remember the day they were
given the death penalty.
1476
01:16:53,780 --> 01:16:57,017
I didn't think
they would be killed,
1477
01:16:57,050 --> 01:16:59,119
and I certainly don't think
they should be.
1478
01:16:59,152 --> 01:17:03,289
- Do you believe that there
should be a death penalty?
1479
01:17:03,323 --> 01:17:05,058
- A death penalty?
- Yeah.
1480
01:17:05,091 --> 01:17:07,460
- Aren't we all born to die?
1481
01:17:07,494 --> 01:17:09,095
- They did something.
1482
01:17:09,129 --> 01:17:13,433
They gave their lives, really.
1483
01:17:15,101 --> 01:17:18,204
[suspenseful music]
1484
01:17:18,238 --> 01:17:20,440
- Prison is not a nice place.
1485
01:17:20,473 --> 01:17:24,744
- I wanted to stay
with the girls, with Charlie,
1486
01:17:24,778 --> 01:17:27,347
with everybody that was inside.
1487
01:17:27,380 --> 01:17:28,782
- I said, "I don't want out
1488
01:17:28,815 --> 01:17:31,384
until my people
get a fair trial."
1489
01:17:31,418 --> 01:17:34,487
- All the death penalty cases
had to become life
1490
01:17:34,521 --> 01:17:36,389
with the possibility of parole.
1491
01:17:36,423 --> 01:17:39,059
- How would you like to wake up
some morning and find out
1492
01:17:39,092 --> 01:17:42,128
that Leslie Van Houten
is your next-door neighbor?
1493
01:17:49,502 --> 01:17:50,502
[dramatic music]
1494
01:17:52,472 --> 01:17:55,875
♪ ♪
1495
01:17:55,909 --> 01:17:57,377
narrator: In the aftermath
1496
01:17:57,410 --> 01:18:01,214
of the Tate-LaBianca
murder trial,
1497
01:18:01,247 --> 01:18:04,517
the women went from being
isolated with Manson
1498
01:18:04,551 --> 01:18:08,154
to being isolated without him.
1499
01:18:09,923 --> 01:18:12,525
- At the time of an arrest,
1500
01:18:12,559 --> 01:18:14,761
why didn't the women say,
1501
01:18:14,794 --> 01:18:16,863
"Thank goodness you captured me.
1502
01:18:16,896 --> 01:18:20,333
I'm out of here.
I've been in this cult."
1503
01:18:20,367 --> 01:18:21,835
They didn't say that.
1504
01:18:23,169 --> 01:18:25,872
Narrator: In 1971,
Gypsy was convicted
1505
01:18:25,905 --> 01:18:27,874
of armed robbery in connection
with a raid
1506
01:18:27,907 --> 01:18:31,845
on a gun shop followed by
a shoot-out with the police.
1507
01:18:33,313 --> 01:18:34,547
She ended up in prison
1508
01:18:34,581 --> 01:18:36,516
with her former family members,
1509
01:18:36,549 --> 01:18:40,320
the women convicted
of the Tate-LaBianca murders.
1510
01:18:40,353 --> 01:18:42,856
- I did five years,
and three years was
1511
01:18:42,889 --> 01:18:45,225
in the special security
housing unit
1512
01:18:45,258 --> 01:18:49,529
with Leslie and Patricia
and Susan Atkins.
1513
01:18:51,231 --> 01:18:53,166
Patricia, at that time,
1514
01:18:53,199 --> 01:18:55,368
she'd have all the pictures
of Charlie up,
1515
01:18:55,402 --> 01:18:57,203
and then she'd tear 'em down
and just...
1516
01:18:57,237 --> 01:18:58,571
Like, she was back and forth.
1517
01:18:58,605 --> 01:19:01,441
[daunting music]
1518
01:19:01,474 --> 01:19:03,443
- Pat would swoon about Charlie
1519
01:19:03,476 --> 01:19:07,514
and say the things he said
and how he paid attention.
1520
01:19:07,547 --> 01:19:11,384
This inmate said,
"Every pimp who's any good
1521
01:19:11,418 --> 01:19:14,254
"says all this stuff.
1522
01:19:14,287 --> 01:19:16,156
"Manson isn't special.
1523
01:19:16,189 --> 01:19:20,293
You know, he's just doing what
all pimps do and hustlers."
1524
01:19:20,326 --> 01:19:23,496
I think, for her,
that was one of the steps.
1525
01:19:26,299 --> 01:19:29,502
[foreboding music]
1526
01:19:29,536 --> 01:19:32,872
Leslie, how she describes
dismantling
1527
01:19:32,906 --> 01:19:36,409
the hold Manson had on her,
it was gradual.
1528
01:19:36,443 --> 01:19:39,346
♪ ♪
1529
01:19:39,379 --> 01:19:42,449
- Leslie had hoped
that they would go through
1530
01:19:42,482 --> 01:19:46,252
with the death penalty
so it could just be over.
1531
01:19:46,286 --> 01:19:48,555
Narrator: Susan Atkins
renounced Manson
1532
01:19:48,588 --> 01:19:51,925
and became a born-again
Christian in prison.
1533
01:19:52,992 --> 01:19:55,528
Six years after
she was sentenced to death,
1534
01:19:55,562 --> 01:19:59,599
she began giving interviews,
asking for forgiveness.
1535
01:20:07,574 --> 01:20:09,409
Narrator: Once in prison,
1536
01:20:09,442 --> 01:20:12,879
Gypsy began to reflect
on her role as a mother,
1537
01:20:12,912 --> 01:20:15,315
finally finding the strength
to break free
1538
01:20:15,348 --> 01:20:17,283
from Manson's hold.
1539
01:20:17,317 --> 01:20:19,986
- My son is the one
that really... you know,
1540
01:20:20,020 --> 01:20:22,555
I didn't want him
to be an orphan.
1541
01:20:22,589 --> 01:20:27,460
There was somebody besides me
that I needed to take care of.
1542
01:20:27,494 --> 01:20:29,529
He's the one that changed
my life.
1543
01:20:29,562 --> 01:20:33,233
So everything that I did
was so that he would be okay
1544
01:20:33,266 --> 01:20:35,535
from then on.
1545
01:20:35,568 --> 01:20:38,538
Narrator: After being released
from the psychiatric hospital,
1546
01:20:38,571 --> 01:20:41,975
Snake was plagued by guilt
and focused on trying
1547
01:20:42,008 --> 01:20:44,344
to live a normal life.
1548
01:20:44,377 --> 01:20:46,346
- I started going to church.
1549
01:20:46,379 --> 01:20:49,616
I told my pastor
just because I felt... I felt
1550
01:20:49,649 --> 01:20:53,953
this overwhelming,
you know, guilt.
1551
01:20:53,987 --> 01:20:55,922
I confessed that I had been
1552
01:20:55,955 --> 01:20:59,359
a member of this
murderous family.
1553
01:20:59,392 --> 01:21:03,430
I really looked to God,
you know, for forgiveness.
1554
01:21:04,998 --> 01:21:07,267
Narrator: Squeaky and Blue's
belief in Manson
1555
01:21:07,300 --> 01:21:09,369
has never wavered.
1556
01:21:09,402 --> 01:21:11,371
After he was incarcerated,
1557
01:21:11,404 --> 01:21:14,407
they committed crimes
in the hopes of reuniting
1558
01:21:14,441 --> 01:21:17,077
with their former
family members in prison.
1559
01:21:17,110 --> 01:21:19,546
- Prison is not a nice place,
1560
01:21:19,579 --> 01:21:24,651
but I felt a solidarity
with the other people.
1561
01:21:25,685 --> 01:21:28,455
Narrator: Five years
after the Tate-LaBianca trial,
1562
01:21:28,488 --> 01:21:30,657
Squeaky was arrested
for attempting
1563
01:21:30,690 --> 01:21:33,393
to assassinate
President Gerald Ford,
1564
01:21:33,426 --> 01:21:35,328
who was making
a public appearance
1565
01:21:35,362 --> 01:21:36,396
where she lived.
1566
01:21:39,332 --> 01:21:41,968
- I heard that Ford
was coming, and I thought,
1567
01:21:42,002 --> 01:21:44,704
"Oh, I'll go and...
I'll go and talk to him."
1568
01:21:44,738 --> 01:21:47,007
[tense music]
1569
01:21:47,040 --> 01:21:50,377
And then I thought,
"He isn't gonna talk to you.
1570
01:21:50,410 --> 01:21:53,580
He's not gonna stop on his way.
He's not gonna stop."
1571
01:21:53,613 --> 01:21:55,382
And then I thought,
1572
01:21:55,415 --> 01:21:59,019
"Well, maybe I'll bring a gun."
1573
01:22:00,453 --> 01:22:03,757
And I just put the gun out
and stuck it in there.
1574
01:22:03,790 --> 01:22:08,561
♪ ♪
1575
01:22:08,595 --> 01:22:12,432
A Secret Service agent
grabbed it.
1576
01:22:12,465 --> 01:22:14,367
And they had me on the ground,
1577
01:22:14,401 --> 01:22:16,636
and I was telling them,
"It's okay.
1578
01:22:16,670 --> 01:22:19,606
It's okay. It didn't go off.
It's okay."
1579
01:22:19,639 --> 01:22:22,442
The guy walked over,
1580
01:22:22,475 --> 01:22:25,745
and he picked up my hand,
1581
01:22:25,779 --> 01:22:29,082
and I was so relaxed.
1582
01:22:29,115 --> 01:22:31,785
And then he was talking to me,
1583
01:22:31,818 --> 01:22:35,722
and the Secret Service agent
said, "Who are you?"
1584
01:22:35,755 --> 01:22:37,157
- Sandra Good, another member
1585
01:22:37,190 --> 01:22:38,758
of the so-called Manson Family,
1586
01:22:38,792 --> 01:22:42,062
was picked up by police.
1587
01:22:42,095 --> 01:22:47,033
- We were living together,
so they arrested me.
1588
01:22:49,069 --> 01:22:51,104
And they took me to jail,
1589
01:22:51,137 --> 01:22:56,076
and they wanted to ascertain
if there was a conspiracy
1590
01:22:56,109 --> 01:22:59,412
to assassinate the president
of the United States.
1591
01:23:01,081 --> 01:23:02,224
Narrator:
Squeaky was sentenced
1592
01:23:02,248 --> 01:23:03,650
to life in prison
1593
01:23:03,683 --> 01:23:06,086
with the possibility of parole.
1594
01:23:06,119 --> 01:23:08,421
- I was able to go
1595
01:23:08,455 --> 01:23:11,124
to the parole board
after ten years.
1596
01:23:11,157 --> 01:23:14,461
But I didn't go
to the parole board.
1597
01:23:14,494 --> 01:23:18,798
I wanted to stay
with the girls, with Charlie,
1598
01:23:18,832 --> 01:23:21,634
with everybody that was inside.
1599
01:23:21,668 --> 01:23:25,405
♪ ♪
1600
01:23:25,438 --> 01:23:27,207
narrator:
After Squeaky's trial,
1601
01:23:27,240 --> 01:23:30,643
Blue was tried, convicted,
and sentenced to 15 years
1602
01:23:30,677 --> 01:23:34,581
for sending death threats
to corporate executives.
1603
01:23:34,614 --> 01:23:38,118
The women were sent
to the same federal prison.
1604
01:23:39,285 --> 01:23:42,655
- I didn't snivel and cry
and go to the parole board.
1605
01:23:42,689 --> 01:23:44,157
I did my time.
1606
01:23:44,190 --> 01:23:46,793
And then I refused to leave.
1607
01:23:46,826 --> 01:23:50,797
I said, "I don't want out until
my people get a fair trial."
1608
01:23:50,830 --> 01:23:53,266
They had to basically
kick me out.
1609
01:23:53,299 --> 01:23:56,169
♪ ♪
1610
01:23:56,202 --> 01:24:00,507
narrator: Squeaky was paroled
after serving 34 years.
1611
01:24:00,540 --> 01:24:03,109
- I've been out
for almost ten years.
1612
01:24:03,143 --> 01:24:08,281
It's hard to be sorry
if you're going by your heart.
1613
01:24:08,314 --> 01:24:09,683
Narrator: In the 50 years
1614
01:24:09,716 --> 01:24:11,885
since the Tate-LaBianca murders,
1615
01:24:11,918 --> 01:24:13,820
members of the Manson Family
1616
01:24:13,853 --> 01:24:17,757
have been denied parole
over 100 times.
1617
01:24:17,791 --> 01:24:20,727
- They all received
the death penalty at trial.
1618
01:24:23,163 --> 01:24:25,865
But California,
a few years later,
1619
01:24:25,899 --> 01:24:28,268
overturned the death penalty.
1620
01:24:28,301 --> 01:24:32,472
- That meant that everybody
on death row...
1621
01:24:32,505 --> 01:24:35,575
Manson, Krenwinkel, Watson,
1622
01:24:35,608 --> 01:24:37,744
Van Houten, Atkins...
1623
01:24:37,777 --> 01:24:41,781
they all had their sentences
commuted from death to life.
1624
01:24:41,815 --> 01:24:44,851
- All the death penalty cases,
then, had to become life
1625
01:24:44,884 --> 01:24:46,853
with the possibility of parole.
1626
01:24:50,223 --> 01:24:52,192
Narrator: There's no question
that the women
1627
01:24:52,225 --> 01:24:55,762
who followed Charles Manson
suffered all kinds of abuse.
1628
01:24:55,795 --> 01:24:57,630
Some look back with regret,
1629
01:24:57,664 --> 01:25:01,768
and others have never lost
their faith in him.
1630
01:25:01,801 --> 01:25:04,738
And those women
who killed on his behalf,
1631
01:25:04,771 --> 01:25:08,508
do they ever deserve
a second chance?
1632
01:25:08,541 --> 01:25:09,876
- I just feel like
1633
01:25:09,909 --> 01:25:11,811
when someone's
gotten their mind back
1634
01:25:11,845 --> 01:25:13,723
and they've done everything
they could to make up
1635
01:25:13,747 --> 01:25:16,216
for a horrible thing they've
done when they were kids
1636
01:25:16,249 --> 01:25:19,285
that it's just time
to do a little forgiving
1637
01:25:19,319 --> 01:25:22,889
and let them, you know,
not die in prison.
1638
01:25:22,922 --> 01:25:25,225
- They weren't remorseful.
1639
01:25:25,258 --> 01:25:26,593
Think about that.
1640
01:25:26,626 --> 01:25:28,928
They were not remorseful
at the time.
1641
01:25:28,962 --> 01:25:31,564
Yeah, you get remorseful
in prison.
1642
01:25:31,598 --> 01:25:35,301
Narrator: Manson died
on November 19, 2017.
1643
01:25:35,335 --> 01:25:37,771
And Tex Watson
remains in prison,
1644
01:25:37,804 --> 01:25:40,840
having never been found
suitable for parole.
1645
01:25:40,874 --> 01:25:44,944
Bobby Beausoleil was found
suitable for parole in 2019,
1646
01:25:44,978 --> 01:25:49,249
but his release was blocked
by the governor of California.
1647
01:25:49,282 --> 01:25:52,819
Three women went to prison
for the Tate-LaBianca murders.
1648
01:25:52,852 --> 01:25:57,957
Susan Atkins died in prison
from brain cancer in 2009.
1649
01:25:57,991 --> 01:26:03,296
Patricia Krenwinkel has been
denied parole 14 times.
1650
01:26:03,329 --> 01:26:05,832
Leslie Van Houten
has been found suitable
1651
01:26:05,865 --> 01:26:07,701
for parole three times,
1652
01:26:07,734 --> 01:26:09,869
but her release
has also been blocked
1653
01:26:09,903 --> 01:26:12,405
by the governor of California.
1654
01:26:12,439 --> 01:26:15,342
- As a rehabilitated woman,
I would like to state
1655
01:26:15,375 --> 01:26:17,277
that the insight I have gained
1656
01:26:17,310 --> 01:26:20,714
is not meant to excuse
any of my acts.
1657
01:26:20,747 --> 01:26:22,916
- How would you like
to wake up some morning
1658
01:26:22,949 --> 01:26:24,718
and find out
that Leslie Van Houten
1659
01:26:24,751 --> 01:26:26,753
is your next-door neighbor?
1660
01:26:26,786 --> 01:26:29,289
Now, she's gonna be somebody's
next-door neighbor,
1661
01:26:29,322 --> 01:26:30,924
and you know what she's done.
1662
01:26:32,292 --> 01:26:35,295
- There's people that have
done 50 times worse
1663
01:26:35,328 --> 01:26:36,896
and they've gotten out.
1664
01:26:36,930 --> 01:26:40,266
They're being used politically.
1665
01:26:40,300 --> 01:26:41,901
They're being used
to sell crime.
1666
01:26:41,935 --> 01:26:43,803
You've got to have a scapegoat.
1667
01:26:43,837 --> 01:26:45,739
Got to have the evil people.
1668
01:26:47,841 --> 01:26:50,377
- If they really had remorse,
1669
01:26:50,410 --> 01:26:53,780
they would waive
their parole hearings
1670
01:26:53,813 --> 01:26:56,282
so that the families
of the victims
1671
01:26:56,316 --> 01:27:01,621
don't have to relive
this experience over and over.
1672
01:27:01,654 --> 01:27:05,025
♪ ♪
1673
01:27:05,058 --> 01:27:06,026
narrator:
For more information
1674
01:27:06,059 --> 01:27:07,060
on "Manson: The Women,"
1675
01:27:07,093 --> 01:27:09,262
go to oxygen.com.
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