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We are here in Dallas,
Texas, of course,
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for WrestleMania weekend.
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And some breaking news
whilst we're here--
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Facing a mystery opponent
of Mr. McMahon's--
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His opponent's getting
picked by Vince McMahon.
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Better be somebody good.
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[crowd chants]
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Cody Rhodes right here.
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Anything can happen.
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But who knows?
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He may show up tonight.
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We have no idea.
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I think this place would pop its
ass off if he came out tonight.
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We can only hope, man,
that we get something
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that good at WrestleMania.
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To see him come back home would
be a whole other thing, man.
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I got to see the
statue for his father
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last night at the superstore.
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It was fantastic.
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I always loved
Dusty Rhodes, man.
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So hopefully we see
his son here tonight.
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[phone rings]
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Uh oh.
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Big Mama.
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Hey.
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Hey, D.
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Up close and personal.
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Where are you at?
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I'm sitting outside where
the rehearsal dinner is.
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But where are y'all staying at?
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Right now, we're
staying on the bus.
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I'm going to stay here
until they drag me out of it
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because I have been sequestered
as a surprise for tomorrow.
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I know you're going
to do great, Cody.
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I know you're going to do great.
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I'm so proud of you.
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And I know daddy would
have been so proud of you.
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And I know-- I know
he's watching you.
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I just know it.
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Thanks, mama.
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Love you.
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Tell everyone I said, hey.
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All right, bye.
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[vehicle beeps]
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I do get asked about Dusty
in everything that I do.
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And I have avoided the
specter of Dusty Rhodes
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when he was living and since he
passed because it was so big.
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How could I ever do
anything like he did?
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But fate has it that I get
this opportunity to make
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the walk at WrestleMania
in front of sports
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entertainment's biggest crowd.
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My dad would have loved that.
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And the roar of the crowd now
is for the American dream.
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And it's for Mr. Dusty Rhodes.
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Dusty could make people feel.
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He showed that the average son
of a plumber could rise up.
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He could be your
next door neighbor.
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He could be the guy you
work in a factory with.
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But he could go out
there and kick ass.
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I came from nowhere.
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And it will take a hell
of a man to knock me off.
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He was a dreamer
of epic proportions
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and the architect of what we
now see as a global empire.
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God, he was entertaining.
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Dusty looked at pro
wrestling just like a movie.
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You don't know what
hard times are, daddy.
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I've been hooked
forever on Dusty Rhodes
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because what you got
was real from him.
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To get to the top, you have
to sacrifice in every aspect
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you can imagine.
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Definitely became hard times.
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Dad was a mentor.
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He was a hero and the best
damn father on the planet.
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Woo, that's funky.
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[music playing]
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His real name was Virgil Riley
Runnels Jr. Never ever heard
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anybody call him Virgil,
not even my mom or pop.
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He got nicknamed dusty because
of the street that he lived on.
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It was a dirt
road, a dusty road.
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Dusty Rhodes is born
into an America that
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is coming out of the
Great Depression,
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is coming out of World War II.
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A kid from Austin, Texas,
east side, Black community,
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Mexican-American
community, lucky to be
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part of that community.
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I was running
around, just thinking
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I was no different
than anybody else.
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My dad was a hard working
plumber, disciplinarian, not
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a lot of education,
just a hard working guy.
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We were very poor financially.
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But I was not aware
of financial problem.
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It was just life for us.
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It was the way things were.
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We never really felt
sorry for ourself
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or felt like we'd
gotten a bad shake
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in life, a bad deal in life.
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Growing up in East Austin,
coming from nothing,
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my dad created things
out of nothing.
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I've heard things about
him being teased as a child
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because he was bigger.
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But the adversity part of it was
just him overcoming obstacles
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in his life to get him
to where he wanted to be.
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My mom was the driving force
behind the American dream
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pursuing, and
reaching, and trying
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to obtain whatever you could
was such a big deal with her.
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My dad more or less was that
if you're going to do it,
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do it right.
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If you're going to reach for
it, then be the best at it.
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Friday nights, my dad
would cash his check,
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we'd go to wrestling.
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We would yell, and
scream, and go crazy.
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I grew up really
loving this industry.
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What an opportunity if you
could make a living at this.
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We come home and we'd wrestle.
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We made fake masks.
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We could just get as rough
as we wanted with Dusty.
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One thing I would
say about him, you
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could not make things
tough enough for him.
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My dad would tell
you how great he
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was at baseball, at football.
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And he truly was a
multi-sport athlete.
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New York Mets, at that
time, had scouted me.
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I played first base.
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And I caught a little bit.
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He also played for a
semi-professional football
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team in Connecticut called
the Charter Oak Buffaloes.
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There's the athlete
side of Dusty.
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And then there's the
thespian side of Dusty.
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Something else was calling him.
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One of his greatest
characteristics
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was his ability to have a
vision and know exactly what he
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wanted to do in his life.
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He was always charismatic,
even when he was young.
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He had a stage presence.
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He loved acting.
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He would tell me, I love it.
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And I'd say no, man, you're
an athlete, not an actor.
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You know what I'm saying?
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And luckily, he
found a profession
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where he could combine
both of those passions.
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He wanted to pro wrestle.
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He wanted pro wrestling.
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I remember him
coming in to Dallas.
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And he didn't have
a place to stay.
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And he wrestled Fritz
Von Erich that night.
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Fritz just had his way with him.
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I remember him kicking him
right in the teeth once,
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looked like he actually
lost some teeth
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and ended up putting the
claw on him and beating him.
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But I remember him telling
me, I love this business.
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Someday, I'm going to be
the heavyweight champion
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of the world.
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I think he saw
something in wrestling.
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And there was a freedom
in wrestling that didn't
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exist in other spaces.
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You know, Muhammad
Ali, if you'd ask him
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who his hero was
as an 18-year-old,
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he would have said
Gorgeous George Wagner.
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And what he loved
about Gorgeous George
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was that Gorgeous George
brought the showmanship
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of professional wrestling
to a whole other level.
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I have to think that
for Dusty Rhodes,
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it was a very attractive
thought for him
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to be able to be a character
and develop stories.
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When my mom and my dad
met, they hit it off.
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They had a great time.
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Sandy was gorgeous.
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He loved her.
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The war in Vietnam had began.
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And they had a rule
that they were not
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taking any married men.
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So even though he
loves Sandy and I
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think they would have
eventually gotten married,
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it was probably
sooner than anyone
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expected, including himself,
because all I could see
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was how important it was for him
to make a name in the business
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and become a champion.
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He had that vision of
what he wanted to do
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and where he wanted to be.
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And he started his
life on the road.
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One of the discoveries of any
wrestler, in terms of this job,
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is it starts out real fun.
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It starts out, oh my
gosh, I got paid $300?
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I'm going to have fun.
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I'm going to be partners with
Dick Murdoch and the Texas
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Outlaws.
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We're going to be the bad guys.
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This is so much fun.
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Dick Murdaugh was a character
from Waxahachie, Texas.
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Together, they were kind
of the same mindset.
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Rhodes and Murdoch first came
to Florida when I was a kid.
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And they had crew cuts and
big fat bellies hanging out.
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They were bad guys.
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Were just a couple of old
country boys drinking beer,
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wrestling, fighting.
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Dusty would say we're
not going to be outraged,
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we're going to be outrageous.
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And they were.
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We were traveling 340 days a
year from one town to the next.
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You had 700 miles to go
to get to the next town.
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Yeah, if there was
a bar, we'd stop.
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And we had a good
following, territorial wise.
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Did a movie called The Wrestler.
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[music playing]
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That was not far fetched by
any stretch of the imagination.
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Murdoch would get in a
fight every Friday night.
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It's fun.
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And then you realize
the layer of work
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that it takes to get
to the next block.
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And that's where it goes from
being just this silly vocation
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to your life's work.
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A lot of people don't know
that my grandfather, dad's dad,
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died the day before I was born.
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I did not talk to
him a lot about that.
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There's absolutely no way
that I can imagine that.
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For him to lose his father
and then, oh my God, now I
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have a baby boy, that would
send anybody into overload, man.
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Dusty told me he was so excited
about having a grandchild.
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And Dusty took some cigars
that said it's a boy.
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And he put them in his
pocket in the coffin.
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And you know, I
mean, that's hard.
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My dad never saw him wrestle.
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But when my dad passed
away, one of the belongings
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he had in his wallet was an
old program from an event
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that my brother had been in.
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It's hard for me not
to get emotional.
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But Dusty was always able to
put those things in perspective.
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He could have all of those kinds
of things going on in his life
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and seemed to know what
to do and how to do it.
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I think Dusty had a knack
for knowing when it's time.
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Probably one of the
hardest decisions
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he made and, I think definitely,
the most important decision
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he made was when it
was time to leave Dick.
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His tag team partner from
Austin, Texas, weighing 280
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pounds, dirty Dusty Rhodes.
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He loved Texas outlaws.
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And he loved doing
what they were doing.
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But I think in Dusty's mind,
he was scratching the surface.
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He felt like he had more tools.
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He had more in the tank.
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I don't think that the
promoters recognized the fact
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that I was a great in-ring
worker or performer.
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They recognized
that I had charisma.
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I had to find a way to
grow it into becoming
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the American dream.
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And there's an elbow
drop by Dusty Rhodes.
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And a count of one, two, three.
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It's all over.
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Dusty Rhodes does it his way.
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If you stick your nose around
here, I'm gonna bust ya.
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Sooner or later, I'm
going to bust ya, baby.
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I'm going to get you
good in a spoiler.
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I had that one element that you
cannot give anyone, charisma.
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The greatest rap master,
the greatest wrestler,
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the greatest super
heavyweight in the world.
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It's about winning.
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You either have it or you don't.
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[inaudible] January the
1st, it's the new year.
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It's new razzmatazz.
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There's new titles and such.
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You understand what I'm saying?
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It's going to be dynamite.
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[inaudible] the American dream.
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I have studied all the tapes.
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I think this was at
my Christmas party.
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I figured out right away I
can sell more tickets talking
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to them in the building
than actually what they
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were seeing in the building.
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Was it worth the damn pain?
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Was it worth the pain?
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When I look back
at characters that
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were developed before
the American dream,
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Thunderbolt Patterson
was one of my guys.
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I like the finer
things in life, you
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know, like diamond
rings and Cadillacs.
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You follow me?
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I dig, yeah.
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Seemed to be like music.
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There was a rhythm to it.
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When I was growing
up, I sure didn't
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think 265 pounds
of blue eyed soul
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would captivate a
country like I am.
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The people drive me.
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He's somebody that gives
off complete comfort
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around Black people.
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I think it gets a bit
subversive in a way
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that I think brings
comfort to certainly me
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and I think a lot
of his Black fans.
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Dusty made everything by
being Dusty Rhodes cool.
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And if you was from
the neighborhood,
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Dusty was like the
only Black wrestler
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that we had to look up to.
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[laughs]
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Because of Dusty Rhodes
growing up in a part of Austin,
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that was multiracial,
I see him as somebody
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in a line with an Elvis Presley
or a Jerry Lee Lewis, people
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who were white who were greatly
influenced by the Southern
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Baptist Black Church.
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And one thing I will
be is up to you.
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He took a Black experience
and translated it
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to a white audience.
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You can look up in this building
in a matter of a few hours
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when it's full.
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And you can see a Black
man and a white man
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need now the same popcorn box.
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Woo, that's funky.
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Dusty's appeal was the
fact that Dusty was just
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like the audience.
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I'm just one of you, baby.
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I'm just like you.
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So come help me
because I need you.
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And you felt, when
Dusty was in the ring,
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that you were right
there with him.
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It's about winning
for my people, baby.
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Until I heard him
talk, I couldn't
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see what the attraction
was because, I mean,
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I saw this m didn't
look like an athlete,
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00:15:02,542 --> 00:15:04,958
but judging a book
by the cover with him
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would be a great mistake.
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[MUSIC - BO DIDDLEY, "YOU CAN'T
JUDGE A BOOK BY THE COVER"]
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You can't judge a book
by looking at the cover.
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Oh, can't you see?
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Oh, you misjudge me.
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I look like a farmer,
but I'm a lover,
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Can't judge a book by
looking at the cover.
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The greatest athlete,
the greatest rapper,
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the greatest singer, or
the greatest sleeper.
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00:15:32,125 --> 00:15:33,417
Yeah, I can sleep cool, brother.
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00:15:33,542 --> 00:15:37,625
Go and cheer in the new
year 1977, the razzmatazz.
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287 pounds of sweet soul.
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[MUSIC - BO DIDDLEY, "YOU CAN'T
JUDGE A BOOK BY THE COVER"]
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Can't judge a book by
looking at the cover.
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Dusty was kind of
like a Pied Piper.
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Dusty would just
bring everybody.
335
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And they would follow him.
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Everything I am, I owe
the American way of life.
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What is more of
an American dream
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than being able to make
it on your own terms?
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00:16:02,208 --> 00:16:03,833
So you have a lisp.
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00:16:03,958 --> 00:16:05,125
You're overweight.
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00:16:05,250 --> 00:16:07,083
Your clothes are ill fitting.
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00:16:07,208 --> 00:16:08,667
You get to be you.
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00:16:08,833 --> 00:16:11,542
And you still get to make it.
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00:16:11,708 --> 00:16:15,458
There was a lot of patriotism
and rah rah USA at the time.
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00:16:15,583 --> 00:16:18,125
And he is wrestling
against, at that point,
346
00:16:18,208 --> 00:16:20,042
the evil Korean, Pak Song.
347
00:16:20,167 --> 00:16:22,917
Pak Song with one
single purpose in mind,
348
00:16:23,042 --> 00:16:26,083
to rid the wrestling world
of the American Dream.
349
00:16:26,208 --> 00:16:35,458
The Korean assassin versus the
American Dream, Dusty Rhodes.
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00:16:35,583 --> 00:16:43,625
And somehow, the son
of a plumber overcomes.
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There is only one dream.
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I am the man.
353
00:16:46,708 --> 00:16:48,458
Go home with it, baby.
354
00:16:48,542 --> 00:16:50,958
It's that rivalry
between himself
355
00:16:51,083 --> 00:16:56,542
and Pak Song that really
branded him and created
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00:16:56,708 --> 00:16:59,458
the American Dream.
357
00:16:59,583 --> 00:17:01,458
I've been hooked
forever on Dusty Rhodes.
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Mimicked him all
through high school.
359
00:17:03,667 --> 00:17:05,958
And then when I first had
a little bit of a break
360
00:17:06,042 --> 00:17:09,333
up in Memphis, you
can hear in my promos.
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00:17:09,500 --> 00:17:11,875
I'm going, let me tell you
something, baby, Terry Boulder.
362
00:17:12,042 --> 00:17:13,958
I was trying to be Dusty Rhodes.
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00:17:14,083 --> 00:17:16,333
I'm gonna put the Super
7 Squeeze on you, daddy.
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00:17:16,417 --> 00:17:18,167
And I'm going to turn you over
to these people in Memphis
365
00:17:18,250 --> 00:17:20,625
and let them rip on you a little
bit after you're down and out.
366
00:17:20,750 --> 00:17:23,208
It was just such a poor
imitation of Dusty Rhodes,
367
00:17:23,333 --> 00:17:24,792
it's embarrassing now.
368
00:17:24,917 --> 00:17:28,042
Dusty Rhodes must have thought,
oh my God, this guy is just
369
00:17:28,167 --> 00:17:30,000
the [bleep].
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[music playing]
371
00:17:40,292 --> 00:17:44,000
This industry is very tough.
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You have to sacrifice.
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You have to sacrifice your body.
374
00:17:49,333 --> 00:17:50,458
You have to sacrifice your mind.
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00:17:50,542 --> 00:17:53,333
You sacrifice those
that you love.
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00:17:53,417 --> 00:17:55,792
When I'm looking
back at everything,
377
00:17:55,917 --> 00:17:57,292
people would be
like, oh my gosh,
378
00:17:57,375 --> 00:17:59,583
I can't believe your father
is the American Dream,
379
00:17:59,708 --> 00:18:00,667
Dusty Rhodes.
380
00:18:00,792 --> 00:18:02,208
That's the coolest thing ever.
381
00:18:02,333 --> 00:18:05,458
Yeah, it's pretty cool.
382
00:18:05,542 --> 00:18:10,167
But at the same time,
he was just our dad.
383
00:18:10,292 --> 00:18:12,875
We're having to share
him with the world.
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00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:14,208
Sometimes I thought about that.
385
00:18:14,333 --> 00:18:16,125
And I just thought that
was just kind of weird.
386
00:18:16,250 --> 00:18:18,792
But back in the day, when
he was first starting out,
387
00:18:18,917 --> 00:18:20,500
I didn't see it that way.
388
00:18:20,625 --> 00:18:21,583
I was so young.
389
00:18:21,708 --> 00:18:24,333
We saw our dad a
couple of times a year.
390
00:18:24,458 --> 00:18:28,292
And when we did, it was the
greatest time of our lives.
391
00:18:28,417 --> 00:18:31,667
But Justin and I have
a completely different
392
00:18:31,750 --> 00:18:34,500
perspective on when my father
was first starting out.
393
00:18:34,625 --> 00:18:37,125
Honestly, man, it
just-- it hurt.
394
00:18:37,208 --> 00:18:38,750
And I wanted him.
395
00:18:38,875 --> 00:18:40,250
I wanted to be with him.
396
00:18:40,375 --> 00:18:44,333
And I wanted it so bad,
desperate, desperate for it.
397
00:18:44,500 --> 00:18:45,875
My dad just had that vision.
398
00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:47,333
And he went after it.
399
00:18:47,458 --> 00:18:50,125
And yes, he wasn't home a lot.
400
00:18:50,208 --> 00:18:52,000
Yes, he was gone a lot.
401
00:18:52,125 --> 00:18:54,833
But there was no
lack of love there.
402
00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:57,583
My father was our father.
403
00:18:57,708 --> 00:19:02,167
At the same time, my
mom lost her husband.
404
00:19:02,292 --> 00:19:07,167
They divorced when
Kristin was two years old.
405
00:19:07,292 --> 00:19:08,500
It was the way it was.
406
00:19:08,583 --> 00:19:10,542
If you wanted to
make a living, you
407
00:19:10,708 --> 00:19:13,083
had to go to the
different territories.
408
00:19:13,208 --> 00:19:15,667
You had to work.
409
00:19:15,792 --> 00:19:17,292
I was young.
410
00:19:17,375 --> 00:19:20,208
And I didn't understand what
kind of a star he was becoming.
411
00:19:20,333 --> 00:19:23,125
A boy needs his dad.
412
00:19:27,042 --> 00:19:30,375
In 1977, he was in Florida.
413
00:19:30,500 --> 00:19:32,375
The Imperial Lounge
was where you could
414
00:19:32,500 --> 00:19:34,625
go to listen to country music.
415
00:19:34,708 --> 00:19:36,833
That was his favorite
place to hang out.
416
00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:39,833
And that's where I met him.
417
00:19:39,917 --> 00:19:45,333
He was the American Dream at
that point, very popular there.
418
00:19:45,417 --> 00:19:48,042
I had asked Dusty
for an autograph
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00:19:48,167 --> 00:19:50,500
for my little
brothers and sisters.
420
00:19:50,625 --> 00:19:53,167
And he said, well, if
you come next week, I'll
421
00:19:53,292 --> 00:19:54,250
have some photos.
422
00:19:54,375 --> 00:19:55,708
I'll bring you those.
423
00:19:55,833 --> 00:19:57,667
So I went next week.
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00:19:57,750 --> 00:20:04,208
And I started thinking, yeah,
you know, I like this guy.
425
00:20:04,375 --> 00:20:07,125
So it wasn't love
at first sight.
426
00:20:07,208 --> 00:20:11,583
But I fell in love
with him very quickly.
427
00:20:11,708 --> 00:20:15,167
Just absolute madness comes
with the American Dream,
428
00:20:15,250 --> 00:20:16,000
Dusty Rhodes.
429
00:20:16,125 --> 00:20:17,250
And she was game.
430
00:20:22,250 --> 00:20:24,708
A man who has figuratively
set the wrestling world
431
00:20:24,833 --> 00:20:30,292
on fire, Mr. Soul, Mr.
Charisma, Mr. Dusty Rhodes.
432
00:20:30,417 --> 00:20:32,792
287 pounds of sweet soul.
433
00:20:32,917 --> 00:20:36,875
I have wined and dined
with kings and queens.
434
00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:39,500
But I slept in an alley and
dined on pork and beans.
435
00:20:39,583 --> 00:20:41,333
And everybody here's
dined on pork and beans
436
00:20:41,500 --> 00:20:43,083
one time in their life.
437
00:20:43,208 --> 00:20:45,292
I reach for a star,
reached for a dream.
438
00:20:45,417 --> 00:20:50,458
Talk about the American
Dream, superstar Billy Graham,
439
00:20:50,542 --> 00:20:53,625
the gold around your
waist will be mine.
440
00:20:56,542 --> 00:20:59,333
In the late '70s, Dusty
had proven himself
441
00:20:59,458 --> 00:21:01,167
as an attraction.
442
00:21:01,292 --> 00:21:04,042
And all promoters wanted
to be able to bring
443
00:21:04,208 --> 00:21:06,125
that draw to their town.
444
00:21:06,208 --> 00:21:09,208
Dusty worked
primarily in Florida.
445
00:21:09,333 --> 00:21:12,208
But he had started
doing different shows
446
00:21:12,375 --> 00:21:13,833
around the country.
447
00:21:13,958 --> 00:21:18,208
We have another capacity
crowd, some 22,000 people
448
00:21:18,333 --> 00:21:20,167
jamming Madison Square Garden.
449
00:21:20,292 --> 00:21:23,333
You want to headline
Madison Square Garden.
450
00:21:23,417 --> 00:21:25,500
Madison Square
Garden is the Mecca.
451
00:21:25,625 --> 00:21:28,458
Here comes superstar
Billy Graham,
452
00:21:28,583 --> 00:21:31,125
the reigning Worldwide
Wrestling Federation
453
00:21:31,208 --> 00:21:32,833
heavyweight champion.
454
00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:36,833
And the roar of the crowd now
is for the American Dream,
455
00:21:36,958 --> 00:21:39,292
and it's for Mr. Dusty Rhodes.
456
00:21:39,375 --> 00:21:42,625
[music playing]
457
00:21:44,708 --> 00:21:46,667
Superstar Billy Graham
and Dusty Rhodes,
458
00:21:46,833 --> 00:21:48,958
two of the most
charismatic individuals,
459
00:21:49,042 --> 00:21:52,125
clashing for the first time
in Madison Square Garden.
460
00:21:52,250 --> 00:21:52,917
That was magic.
461
00:21:56,708 --> 00:22:00,292
Graham has never seen
moves like that before.
462
00:22:00,375 --> 00:22:02,667
[crowd cheering]
463
00:22:02,792 --> 00:22:07,125
The American Dream Dusty
Rhodes, sort of a roly-poly type
464
00:22:07,208 --> 00:22:10,083
statuesque compared
to Superstar Graham.
465
00:22:10,208 --> 00:22:11,375
Whoa, baby.
466
00:22:13,625 --> 00:22:16,875
Physically and aesthetically,
couldn't be more opposite.
467
00:22:17,042 --> 00:22:20,708
However, they both
played an integral part
468
00:22:20,833 --> 00:22:22,792
in just the evolution
of the business,
469
00:22:22,917 --> 00:22:24,958
where it went to a little
more entertainment.
470
00:22:28,625 --> 00:22:31,208
Dusty Rhodes was my
only reason at the time
471
00:22:31,333 --> 00:22:32,667
to want to be a wrestler.
472
00:22:32,792 --> 00:22:34,750
But then when
superstar Billy Graham
473
00:22:34,875 --> 00:22:37,333
climbed on the second rope
and hit that double bicep,
474
00:22:37,500 --> 00:22:42,542
I went, whoa, I want to
be just like that guy.
475
00:22:42,667 --> 00:22:44,125
So now, I wondered
what the possibilities
476
00:22:44,250 --> 00:22:46,500
would be to end up
looking like that,
477
00:22:46,667 --> 00:22:50,667
but wrestling with
Dusty Rhodes's charisma.
478
00:22:50,792 --> 00:22:53,667
I wonder if that
could be possible?
479
00:22:53,792 --> 00:22:55,792
It is possible.
480
00:22:55,917 --> 00:22:59,375
The three matches with
him there, so special.
481
00:22:59,500 --> 00:23:00,667
The matches were amazing.
482
00:23:00,792 --> 00:23:03,208
Graham with a rope
wrapped around the throat
483
00:23:03,333 --> 00:23:04,708
of Dusty Rhodes.
484
00:23:04,833 --> 00:23:07,708
Andy Warhol, Steinbrenner,
Halston, Cheryl Tiegs,
485
00:23:07,833 --> 00:23:10,250
Peter Beard, all in
attendance in the audience,
486
00:23:10,375 --> 00:23:15,042
Edgar Winter, Bette Midler,
all in the audience.
487
00:23:15,167 --> 00:23:17,708
[bell dings]
488
00:23:19,250 --> 00:23:22,542
Didn't want to leave the ring
because of the goosebumps
489
00:23:22,667 --> 00:23:26,958
and what I was feeling
at that moment.
490
00:23:27,042 --> 00:23:30,500
After the matches, we went
out to celebrate with all
491
00:23:30,667 --> 00:23:34,000
of our new friends, lot of fun.
492
00:23:34,125 --> 00:23:36,917
When you went to
Studio 54, there
493
00:23:37,042 --> 00:23:42,500
was just this crazy cast of
characters, artists, singers.
494
00:23:42,625 --> 00:23:44,542
And they loved Dusty.
495
00:23:44,667 --> 00:23:48,375
Back then, it was the rare soul
who liked pro wrestling not
496
00:23:48,500 --> 00:23:51,875
only for who would win or
lose, but also for the joy
497
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:53,333
of the spectacle of it.
498
00:23:53,458 --> 00:23:56,500
And it says so much about Dusty
Rhodes's talent and his ability
499
00:23:56,667 --> 00:23:58,583
to connect with an audience.
500
00:23:58,708 --> 00:24:02,667
Dusty met Andy Warhol
a couple of times,
501
00:24:02,833 --> 00:24:07,000
and you know,
birds of a feather.
502
00:24:07,125 --> 00:24:09,542
I liked the lifestyle.
503
00:24:09,708 --> 00:24:12,208
I wasn't a conventional
kind of girl.
504
00:24:12,375 --> 00:24:15,000
So it appealed to me.
505
00:24:15,125 --> 00:24:16,875
We dated for a while.
506
00:24:17,042 --> 00:24:19,917
Then we moved in
together about a year.
507
00:24:20,042 --> 00:24:23,000
What was important
to me wasn't the fact
508
00:24:23,125 --> 00:24:24,667
that he'd been divorced.
509
00:24:24,792 --> 00:24:31,333
I was more concerned about
what kind of father he was.
510
00:24:31,458 --> 00:24:35,125
You can't love a man if
he's a crappy father.
511
00:24:35,208 --> 00:24:39,542
We had gone out to Austin
to visit Dustin and Kristin.
512
00:24:39,667 --> 00:24:43,000
And just out of the blue,
he asked me to marry him.
513
00:24:43,167 --> 00:24:47,583
And I said yes because I
did want to get married.
514
00:24:47,708 --> 00:24:50,000
But up until that point, I
really hadn't thought about it.
515
00:24:50,083 --> 00:24:52,458
I was happy with things
the way they were.
516
00:24:52,542 --> 00:24:55,458
So we got married.
517
00:24:55,542 --> 00:24:58,083
My mom was suddenly a step mom.
518
00:24:58,208 --> 00:25:01,333
I think that was natural for
her because in her family,
519
00:25:01,500 --> 00:25:03,833
there's lots of people.
520
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:07,792
When we got married, Dustin
and Kristin were very young.
521
00:25:07,917 --> 00:25:10,458
We would see them
whenever we could.
522
00:25:10,542 --> 00:25:14,542
We would have them on
holidays and in the summer.
523
00:25:14,708 --> 00:25:19,542
But it was a long distance
relationship, absolutely.
524
00:25:19,667 --> 00:25:21,083
That's how it went.
525
00:25:21,208 --> 00:25:25,042
Getting there to Tampa, seeing
the horses, seeing the pool,
526
00:25:25,208 --> 00:25:30,167
swimming in the pool, seeing
dad occasionally, not a lot.
527
00:25:30,250 --> 00:25:31,667
I didn't want to
go somewhere else
528
00:25:31,792 --> 00:25:33,917
and me not be
around him anymore.
529
00:25:34,042 --> 00:25:36,542
I wanted to go
where he was going.
530
00:25:36,667 --> 00:25:38,000
No, he wasn't home a lot.
531
00:25:38,083 --> 00:25:41,083
But in some strange way,
I had an understanding.
532
00:25:41,208 --> 00:25:43,000
And I think, again, it
goes back to me just
533
00:25:43,167 --> 00:25:46,208
admiring the vision that he had
and what a great person that he
534
00:25:46,333 --> 00:25:47,333
was.
535
00:25:47,417 --> 00:25:49,417
Dusty Rhodes has
achieved victory her
536
00:25:49,542 --> 00:25:52,000
at Madison Square Garden.
537
00:25:52,125 --> 00:25:54,625
The notoriety that came from
Superstar Billy Graham Dusty
538
00:25:54,750 --> 00:25:59,000
Rhodes matches helped me
prepare myself for Harley Race.
539
00:25:59,125 --> 00:26:01,333
The National Wrestling Alliance
World Heavyweight title
540
00:26:01,500 --> 00:26:03,667
was the ultimate goal.
541
00:26:03,750 --> 00:26:06,667
NWA World Heavyweight
champions held the championship
542
00:26:06,750 --> 00:26:08,333
for several years.
543
00:26:08,458 --> 00:26:11,000
And to defeat the
champion and actually
544
00:26:11,083 --> 00:26:14,375
lay claim to being a
World Heavyweight Champion
545
00:26:14,542 --> 00:26:17,792
was a huge deal.
546
00:26:17,917 --> 00:26:20,542
Dusty, what was going through
your mind at that moment?
547
00:26:20,708 --> 00:26:23,333
Well, it was serious
pulling out all his stuff.
548
00:26:23,417 --> 00:26:28,125
He felt that at this point,
he was going to put me away.
549
00:26:28,250 --> 00:26:30,250
And it fell into a bionic elbow.
550
00:26:30,375 --> 00:26:35,000
Right here, I will reach back
and become World's Heavyweight
551
00:26:35,125 --> 00:26:37,500
Wrestling Champion with
that blow right there.
552
00:26:37,583 --> 00:26:39,292
That is history.
553
00:26:39,375 --> 00:26:42,875
[crowd cheering]
554
00:26:45,542 --> 00:26:46,958
In that moment, you're riveted.
555
00:26:47,042 --> 00:26:49,125
And you do think that
winning is possible
556
00:26:49,208 --> 00:26:52,667
when all the odds tell us
that winning is not possible.
557
00:26:52,750 --> 00:26:55,083
That is activated
by Dusty Rhodes
558
00:26:55,208 --> 00:26:58,750
being able to embody
the American Dream.
559
00:26:58,875 --> 00:27:00,542
He considered the
world championship
560
00:27:00,708 --> 00:27:02,042
to be the highest honor.
561
00:27:02,208 --> 00:27:05,292
Can't get him to say
that wrestling was fake.
562
00:27:05,417 --> 00:27:06,500
You can't.
563
00:27:06,625 --> 00:27:08,667
And it's because it's not.
564
00:27:08,792 --> 00:27:10,333
That moment wasn't.
565
00:27:10,500 --> 00:27:12,583
And when you take
it that seriously,
566
00:27:12,708 --> 00:27:14,417
the fans take you seriously.
567
00:27:14,542 --> 00:27:15,167
And they support you.
568
00:27:15,292 --> 00:27:16,208
They're crying with you.
569
00:27:16,375 --> 00:27:17,708
They're cheering with you.
570
00:27:17,875 --> 00:27:20,958
And that would parlay in the
next big step in his career.
571
00:27:21,042 --> 00:27:22,875
This is an example
for every man, woman,
572
00:27:23,042 --> 00:27:24,917
and child, believe in a dream.
573
00:27:25,042 --> 00:27:25,667
Have a dream.
574
00:27:25,833 --> 00:27:27,333
Have a way to get it.
575
00:27:27,417 --> 00:27:28,208
Hold on to it.
576
00:27:28,333 --> 00:27:30,000
And shoot for the sky.
577
00:27:30,125 --> 00:27:32,542
Because I have been to
the mountaintop and it
578
00:27:32,708 --> 00:27:35,333
will take a hell of a
man to knock me off.
579
00:27:39,375 --> 00:27:40,500
To my left, the American
Dream, Dusty Rhodes.
580
00:27:41,125 --> 00:27:44,500
And it's most unusual that
we're here in an empty arena
581
00:27:44,583 --> 00:27:48,000
because Dusty
Rhodes fills arenas.
582
00:27:48,083 --> 00:27:49,875
The man of the hour,
the man with the power.
583
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:53,792
I am the hitmaker,
the record breaker.
584
00:27:53,875 --> 00:27:57,333
In the early '80s,
he'd become a big star.
585
00:27:57,458 --> 00:27:59,458
Who are you hoping to win
the World Title tonight?
586
00:27:59,583 --> 00:28:01,833
Oh, I want Dusty.
587
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,542
The little plumber's son
who come out of the ditch
588
00:28:04,667 --> 00:28:06,292
and became so sweet.
589
00:28:09,875 --> 00:28:10,833
Can you dig it?
590
00:28:10,958 --> 00:28:14,542
Became so sweet,
yeah, it's on fire.
591
00:28:14,708 --> 00:28:16,500
You better believe it's on fire.
592
00:28:16,625 --> 00:28:20,500
When Vince was looking
at his expansion,
593
00:28:20,625 --> 00:28:23,625
Vince looked at Dusty
Rhodes and saw Dusty
594
00:28:23,750 --> 00:28:29,250
as the guy to make what
it has become today.
595
00:28:29,375 --> 00:28:31,375
That is electrified funk.
596
00:28:31,500 --> 00:28:33,500
One of Dusty's
biggest attributes,
597
00:28:33,625 --> 00:28:36,000
and I don't know if this is
the proper term these days,
598
00:28:36,125 --> 00:28:37,917
but just balls.
599
00:28:38,042 --> 00:28:41,583
Because for him to
say no, walking away
600
00:28:41,708 --> 00:28:45,792
from that top spot, he
just had a gut feeling.
601
00:28:45,875 --> 00:28:49,667
Dusty always wanted
to produce wrestling.
602
00:28:49,750 --> 00:28:53,625
So he went to the
Carolinas for Jim Crockett.
603
00:28:53,750 --> 00:28:55,958
This is the most
down home situation
604
00:28:56,042 --> 00:28:58,958
in the world of wrestling
today, the National Wrestling
605
00:28:59,042 --> 00:28:59,917
Alliance.
606
00:29:00,042 --> 00:29:02,333
He got to produce
TV shows, promote
607
00:29:02,458 --> 00:29:04,208
matches, and got to wrestle.
608
00:29:04,333 --> 00:29:09,292
There was just more opportunity
for what Dusty wanted to do,
609
00:29:09,375 --> 00:29:14,042
even though when we moved to
Charlotte, it was a wasteland.
610
00:29:14,167 --> 00:29:16,042
At the time, Crockett
Promotions was kind of
611
00:29:16,208 --> 00:29:18,958
like a mouthful of
oatmeal with no sugar.
612
00:29:19,083 --> 00:29:21,667
There were some good,
quality people there.
613
00:29:21,833 --> 00:29:24,875
But they didn't have
something to spice it all up.
614
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,542
And Dusty, he was a
dreamer of epic proportion.
615
00:29:28,667 --> 00:29:31,000
He saw things on a huge scale.
616
00:29:31,125 --> 00:29:33,708
This is a night
everybody will remember,
617
00:29:33,833 --> 00:29:35,417
wrestling history will be made.
618
00:29:35,542 --> 00:29:37,250
He really was a genius.
619
00:29:37,375 --> 00:29:40,417
All the [bleep] he invented over
the years, from The War Games,
620
00:29:40,542 --> 00:29:41,958
to Starrcade.
621
00:29:42,042 --> 00:29:45,208
Starrcade '83, this is the
wrestling event of all time.
622
00:29:45,333 --> 00:29:48,542
Then of course, Great
American Bash, on tour, man.
623
00:29:48,667 --> 00:29:51,333
And we hired everybody
from George Jones
624
00:29:51,417 --> 00:29:52,875
to Waylon Jennings.
625
00:29:53,042 --> 00:29:55,000
I'm looking forward to being
a part of the Great American
626
00:29:55,125 --> 00:29:55,667
Bash.
627
00:29:55,750 --> 00:29:57,458
Went on the road.
628
00:29:57,583 --> 00:29:59,208
And it worked.
629
00:29:59,375 --> 00:30:01,167
We sold out everywhere.
630
00:30:01,333 --> 00:30:02,500
Rock and roll.
631
00:30:02,625 --> 00:30:03,583
Oh, baby.
632
00:30:03,708 --> 00:30:05,667
The business started taking off.
633
00:30:05,750 --> 00:30:08,208
And then they got on TBS.
634
00:30:08,333 --> 00:30:11,208
So their show was going
in more and more homes.
635
00:30:11,333 --> 00:30:14,833
All of a sudden, you're
reaching a mass audience.
636
00:30:14,917 --> 00:30:17,083
So a kid in New York
City like myself
637
00:30:17,208 --> 00:30:22,958
could watch this very
regional carnival enterprise.
638
00:30:23,042 --> 00:30:26,375
And I remember being 10,
11 years old watching
639
00:30:26,542 --> 00:30:28,167
Dusty Rhodes versus Ric Flair.
640
00:30:28,250 --> 00:30:30,708
And I'd never seen
anything like this before.
641
00:30:30,833 --> 00:30:32,500
And this is the
moment that we've all
642
00:30:32,583 --> 00:30:33,958
been waiting for right here.
643
00:30:34,042 --> 00:30:36,542
It's the New York Yankees
and the Brooklyn Dodgers.
644
00:30:36,667 --> 00:30:38,625
It's Muhammad Ali
and Joe Frazier.
645
00:30:38,708 --> 00:30:42,375
It's one of the great rivalries
in the history of sports
646
00:30:42,542 --> 00:30:43,500
entertainment.
647
00:30:43,583 --> 00:30:45,875
He doesn't like
me getting ahead.
648
00:30:46,042 --> 00:30:49,250
And that hurts me right
here for him to get ahead.
649
00:30:49,375 --> 00:30:52,833
The ultimate bad guy and the
ultimate blue collar guy.
650
00:30:52,958 --> 00:30:54,125
We just had that magic, man.
651
00:30:54,208 --> 00:30:56,500
We loved to interview
against each other
652
00:30:56,625 --> 00:30:58,042
and became a real competition.
653
00:30:58,208 --> 00:31:02,083
I don't put values in the
same thing Ric Flair does.
654
00:31:02,208 --> 00:31:07,042
The Rolex wearin'
diamond ring wearin'--
655
00:31:07,167 --> 00:31:08,000
I'm the son of a plumber.
656
00:31:08,083 --> 00:31:09,875
I was raised in Austin, Texas.
657
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:11,833
Kiss stealing, woo,
wheeling, dealing.
658
00:31:11,917 --> 00:31:15,125
--had anything unless
I fought for it.
659
00:31:15,208 --> 00:31:18,500
Limousine riding, jet
flying son of a gun.
660
00:31:18,625 --> 00:31:21,667
Unless I got down on my
knees and went for it.
661
00:31:21,792 --> 00:31:29,667
It is so hard to be humble when
you're looking like Ric Flair.
662
00:31:29,750 --> 00:31:32,167
There goes Flair
over the top rope.
663
00:31:32,250 --> 00:31:35,167
Both of them wanted to be
the number one entertainer.
664
00:31:35,292 --> 00:31:40,583
The one upsmanship, definitely,
definitely, it's there.
665
00:31:40,708 --> 00:31:43,667
Smashed into that
steel ring post.
666
00:31:43,792 --> 00:31:46,333
He has got a bad cut.
667
00:31:46,417 --> 00:31:49,958
He could depict knowledge
that was not common today.
668
00:31:50,042 --> 00:31:52,208
It was very much a
part of the craft
669
00:31:52,333 --> 00:31:55,333
of what we did for the
most theatrical effect
670
00:31:55,458 --> 00:31:57,333
that we could get.
671
00:31:57,500 --> 00:31:58,417
He has stopped the match.
672
00:31:58,542 --> 00:32:04,458
He has stopped it because
of the cut on the eye.
673
00:32:04,583 --> 00:32:06,042
Wait a second.
674
00:32:06,208 --> 00:32:10,708
Ric Flair, if you
call this a victory,
675
00:32:10,833 --> 00:32:13,708
you need to go home
and kiss your mama.
676
00:32:13,875 --> 00:32:15,375
This ain't no victory.
677
00:32:15,500 --> 00:32:16,583
This ain't over.
678
00:32:16,708 --> 00:32:21,292
Dusty looked at pro
wrestling just like a movie.
679
00:32:21,375 --> 00:32:22,417
It was cinema.
680
00:32:22,875 --> 00:32:26,708
It was this long tale that
didn't just include the moment.
681
00:32:26,833 --> 00:32:27,833
Look what Ric Flair is doing.
682
00:32:27,958 --> 00:32:29,708
He is padlocking that cage.
683
00:32:29,833 --> 00:32:32,167
So Dusty Rhodes is helpless.
684
00:32:32,292 --> 00:32:35,167
Not only that, he cannot be
held by anyone from the outside.
685
00:32:35,250 --> 00:32:38,917
Seeing the adult nature
of these conflicts,
686
00:32:39,042 --> 00:32:43,208
this felt like adults were
fighting with their fists
687
00:32:43,375 --> 00:32:44,625
over big issues.
688
00:32:44,708 --> 00:32:45,833
I was at ringside, Bob.
689
00:32:45,917 --> 00:32:47,208
I couldn't believe
what I was seeing.
690
00:32:47,375 --> 00:32:50,667
Down he goes on Dusty Rhodes.
691
00:32:50,833 --> 00:32:52,708
And right now,
everybody is in a panic
692
00:32:52,875 --> 00:32:55,583
right now, because see,
Tony, too, a lot of concern
693
00:32:55,708 --> 00:32:56,417
for this injury.
694
00:32:56,542 --> 00:32:58,458
It was real.
695
00:32:58,542 --> 00:32:59,667
And I believed in it.
696
00:32:59,792 --> 00:33:02,333
They broke my dad's leg.
697
00:33:02,417 --> 00:33:04,083
That's how they portrayed it.
698
00:33:04,208 --> 00:33:07,167
And they weren't going to have
anybody saying this was phony.
699
00:33:07,292 --> 00:33:08,833
This is why
wrestling in the '80s
700
00:33:08,917 --> 00:33:11,375
was so awesome because
everything was real.
701
00:33:11,500 --> 00:33:14,792
Dusty Rhodes brought
that sensibility
702
00:33:14,875 --> 00:33:18,125
that you needed to not just
what was happening in the ring,
703
00:33:18,208 --> 00:33:20,333
but what's happening in
the locker room, what's
704
00:33:20,417 --> 00:33:23,625
happening in the parking lot.
705
00:33:23,750 --> 00:33:26,375
It was like a reality series.
706
00:33:26,500 --> 00:33:29,667
And you needed to see this week
because it explained last week.
707
00:33:29,792 --> 00:33:31,833
And then you needed to
watch next week because it
708
00:33:31,958 --> 00:33:33,417
would explain this week.
709
00:33:33,542 --> 00:33:37,083
So really, it sounds like
Dusty, if you want to be ready,
710
00:33:37,208 --> 00:33:39,500
you're going to have to do
exactly what he tells you
711
00:33:39,625 --> 00:33:41,125
when he tells you.
712
00:33:41,208 --> 00:33:44,000
There's no doubt, David, that
I have to do what he tells me.
713
00:33:44,167 --> 00:33:49,917
One day, I saw the
cast in his closet.
714
00:33:50,042 --> 00:33:52,875
And I'm like, what the--
715
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,958
and it's got a big
slit down the middle.
716
00:33:56,042 --> 00:33:58,292
And that's how he
would get it on
717
00:33:58,417 --> 00:33:59,792
and wore it around the house.
718
00:33:59,917 --> 00:34:01,208
And he kayfabed his own kids.
719
00:34:01,375 --> 00:34:03,708
Ladies and gentlemen, you
all know that Dusty Rhodes
720
00:34:03,875 --> 00:34:05,042
has been injured.
721
00:34:05,167 --> 00:34:06,708
Well, we want to welcome
back tonight Dusty
722
00:34:06,833 --> 00:34:10,292
Rhodes for his first
interview since his injury.
723
00:34:10,375 --> 00:34:13,833
Here is the American
Dream, Dusty Rhodes.
724
00:34:13,958 --> 00:34:18,167
And Dusty, your fans
welcome you back, man.
725
00:34:18,250 --> 00:34:20,125
Think about that period
in the '80s, what
726
00:34:20,208 --> 00:34:22,125
was happening in US society.
727
00:34:22,208 --> 00:34:25,333
The biggest shows were
Dynasty and Dallas.
728
00:34:25,417 --> 00:34:28,542
But there was an underbelly
underneath that in US
729
00:34:28,667 --> 00:34:30,000
society at the time.
730
00:34:30,125 --> 00:34:32,042
And that was working class
people, Black and white,
731
00:34:32,167 --> 00:34:34,625
particularly union, who
were seeing their lives
732
00:34:34,708 --> 00:34:38,125
and living standards utterly
eviscerated, if not destroyed.
733
00:34:38,208 --> 00:34:41,917
He put hard times on Dusty
Rhodes and his family.
734
00:34:42,042 --> 00:34:44,542
You don't know what
hard times are, daddy.
735
00:34:44,667 --> 00:34:48,375
Hard times are when the textile
workers around this country
736
00:34:48,500 --> 00:34:49,500
are out of work.
737
00:34:49,917 --> 00:34:52,250
They got four or five kids
and can't pay their wages,
738
00:34:52,375 --> 00:34:53,500
can't buy their food.
739
00:34:53,958 --> 00:34:57,667
Hard times are when the
autoworkers are out of work.
740
00:34:57,833 --> 00:34:59,333
And they tell them go home.
741
00:34:59,500 --> 00:35:03,667
And hard times are when a man
has worked at a job 30 years,
742
00:35:03,750 --> 00:35:07,167
30 years, they give him the
watch, kick him in the butt,
743
00:35:07,292 --> 00:35:10,833
and say, hey, a computer
took your place, daddy.
744
00:35:10,917 --> 00:35:13,500
That's hard times.
745
00:35:13,625 --> 00:35:15,167
That's hard times.
746
00:35:15,292 --> 00:35:18,333
We're at this point
where companies
747
00:35:18,458 --> 00:35:22,500
are thinking about how do
they replace unionized labor.
748
00:35:22,625 --> 00:35:27,292
And the reality is the idea of
achieving the American dream is
749
00:35:27,375 --> 00:35:28,500
starting to slip away.
750
00:35:28,833 --> 00:35:32,833
And Ric Flair, you put
hard times on this country
751
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:34,792
by taking Dusty Rhodes out.
752
00:35:34,875 --> 00:35:36,917
That's hard times.
753
00:35:37,042 --> 00:35:38,208
Dusty was the son of a plumber.
754
00:35:38,333 --> 00:35:41,000
I was the guy born
with the golden spoon.
755
00:35:41,125 --> 00:35:43,667
And it's basically the truth.
756
00:35:43,833 --> 00:35:44,625
My dad was a doctor.
757
00:35:44,708 --> 00:35:46,208
His dad was a plumber.
758
00:35:46,333 --> 00:35:48,792
Dusty was just
saying [bleep] to me.
759
00:35:48,875 --> 00:35:53,750
Nature Boy Ric Flair, the
World Heavyweight Title
760
00:35:53,875 --> 00:35:55,667
belongs to these people.
761
00:35:55,792 --> 00:35:57,208
I will reach out right now.
762
00:35:57,375 --> 00:36:01,333
I want you at home to know my
hand is touching your hand.
763
00:36:01,458 --> 00:36:04,333
What makes that
promo so special,
764
00:36:04,417 --> 00:36:09,333
it dips into the anger and the
disillusionment that we feel.
765
00:36:09,458 --> 00:36:12,417
But it also asks us
to reach for something
766
00:36:12,542 --> 00:36:14,708
greater, to reach out to
him, but also to reach out
767
00:36:14,875 --> 00:36:16,833
to each other.
768
00:36:16,917 --> 00:36:18,250
Let me leave you with this.
769
00:36:21,167 --> 00:36:24,625
One way to hurt Ric
Flair is to take
770
00:36:24,708 --> 00:36:27,958
what he cherishes more
than anything in the world.
771
00:36:28,083 --> 00:36:30,000
That's the World's
Heavyweight Title.
772
00:36:30,167 --> 00:36:30,958
I'm gonna take it.
773
00:36:31,042 --> 00:36:33,042
I've been there twice.
774
00:36:33,167 --> 00:36:36,042
This time, when I
take it, daddy, I'm
775
00:36:36,167 --> 00:36:37,625
going to take it for you.
776
00:36:37,750 --> 00:36:39,625
Let's gather for it.
777
00:36:39,708 --> 00:36:41,000
Don't let me down now.
778
00:36:41,125 --> 00:36:43,208
For an interview to
be amazing, the person
779
00:36:43,375 --> 00:36:45,792
giving that interview
has to believe it.
780
00:36:45,917 --> 00:36:49,667
And that is really the
secret to his success.
781
00:36:49,750 --> 00:36:51,875
Is he really was
the American Dream.
782
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,500
I can't say that I'm going
to walk through my house
783
00:36:54,583 --> 00:36:57,208
and show the camera all
the fine, great things
784
00:36:57,333 --> 00:36:59,250
that I've earned
in this profession.
785
00:36:59,375 --> 00:37:01,167
But there's one thing when
I walk through my house
786
00:37:01,333 --> 00:37:03,083
that I see every day of my life.
787
00:37:03,208 --> 00:37:04,583
She's about that high.
788
00:37:04,708 --> 00:37:05,875
She's two years old.
789
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:07,792
And I got two other ones, too.
790
00:37:07,875 --> 00:37:13,792
Dusty had missed out on so much
and Dustin and Kristin's life.
791
00:37:13,917 --> 00:37:15,500
He never talked about it.
792
00:37:15,667 --> 00:37:18,708
But I know it's something
that just weighed heavy
793
00:37:18,833 --> 00:37:20,250
on his heart.
794
00:37:20,375 --> 00:37:25,667
When Teil was born, her birth
was like a second chance
795
00:37:25,750 --> 00:37:26,833
at fatherhood.
796
00:37:26,958 --> 00:37:30,500
And when Cody was born,
we never went anywhere
797
00:37:30,667 --> 00:37:33,083
that we didn't take our kids.
798
00:37:33,208 --> 00:37:35,042
Dustin came to live
with us the summer
799
00:37:35,167 --> 00:37:37,333
before his junior
year of high school.
800
00:37:37,458 --> 00:37:40,667
He just wanted to be
around his dad, period.
801
00:37:40,750 --> 00:37:44,333
But he wasn't doing
well in school.
802
00:37:44,458 --> 00:37:47,708
I think Dusty saw Dustin as
being like this great football
803
00:37:47,833 --> 00:37:49,125
player.
804
00:37:49,208 --> 00:37:50,583
He had been offered some
football scholarships.
805
00:37:50,708 --> 00:37:53,042
But you've got to have
the grades as well.
806
00:37:53,208 --> 00:37:55,083
And that bothered Dusty.
807
00:37:55,208 --> 00:37:57,333
Dusty wanted his kids
to go to college.
808
00:37:57,458 --> 00:37:59,833
He was worried about what
Dustin was going to do
809
00:37:59,958 --> 00:38:03,000
and did not want Dustin to
get in the wrestling business.
810
00:38:03,167 --> 00:38:05,167
He was trying to
keep me away from it
811
00:38:05,250 --> 00:38:08,500
because it's a tough life.
812
00:38:12,542 --> 00:38:18,167
You're looking at the greatest
wrestlers alive today, three--
813
00:38:18,292 --> 00:38:22,042
oh, what do we got here, huh?
814
00:38:22,208 --> 00:38:26,667
Ric Flair versus Dusty Rhodes,
this was years of struggle
815
00:38:26,833 --> 00:38:27,958
by Dusty Rhodes.
816
00:38:28,042 --> 00:38:33,042
Look at this, the World
Heavyweight Championship.
817
00:38:33,208 --> 00:38:36,667
1986, Great American
Bash, Ric Flair
818
00:38:36,750 --> 00:38:40,458
is legitimately
the man, the man.
819
00:38:40,542 --> 00:38:46,792
And Dusty, throughout their
rivalry, it's loss, after loss,
820
00:38:46,875 --> 00:38:49,250
after loss.
821
00:38:49,375 --> 00:38:51,833
But from a wrestling
perspective,
822
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:53,792
those weren't losses.
823
00:38:53,917 --> 00:38:56,625
That is the definition
of the chase.
824
00:38:56,750 --> 00:39:00,875
Dusty was like an open nerve.
825
00:39:01,042 --> 00:39:02,958
Dusty was your pain.
826
00:39:03,042 --> 00:39:04,917
Dusty was vulnerability.
827
00:39:05,042 --> 00:39:07,875
Here he goes, Ramsay,
right into the fist.
828
00:39:08,042 --> 00:39:09,542
Down goes Ric Flair.
829
00:39:14,708 --> 00:39:17,167
People needed to see
him come out on top.
830
00:39:17,250 --> 00:39:19,000
They needed to feel like
they were coming out
831
00:39:19,167 --> 00:39:20,917
on top, finally.
832
00:39:21,042 --> 00:39:24,875
Small package, hands
Ric Flair-- he did it.
833
00:39:25,042 --> 00:39:26,708
Dusty did it.
834
00:39:26,833 --> 00:39:28,833
Dusty Rhodes has
just won the match.
835
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:36,625
Ladies and gentlemen, the
winner and new World Heavyweight
836
00:39:36,708 --> 00:39:41,583
Champion, the American
Dream Dusty Rhodes.
837
00:39:41,708 --> 00:39:44,125
People are losing
their mind because they
838
00:39:44,250 --> 00:39:47,125
were in on the chase with him.
839
00:39:47,208 --> 00:39:49,792
They loved Dusty so much.
840
00:39:49,875 --> 00:39:52,583
To have him finally beat
Ric Flair, to have him do it
841
00:39:52,708 --> 00:39:56,500
in a steel cage, I mean,
it did amazing things
842
00:39:56,625 --> 00:39:58,000
for Dusty Rhodes's legend.
843
00:40:00,625 --> 00:40:03,875
You see them working these
huge arenas and huge stadiums
844
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:05,125
and selling them out.
845
00:40:05,208 --> 00:40:08,500
They're on top of the world.
846
00:40:08,625 --> 00:40:12,375
Very important that the
NWA stayed in lockstep
847
00:40:12,500 --> 00:40:15,167
with what the WWE was doing.
848
00:40:15,250 --> 00:40:18,583
Depending upon which side you're
on is how you view things.
849
00:40:18,708 --> 00:40:21,333
In the South, looking at
it from that point of view,
850
00:40:21,458 --> 00:40:22,625
it's like, man,
we're doing great.
851
00:40:22,708 --> 00:40:25,000
We've got a hell of
an opportunity here.
852
00:40:25,125 --> 00:40:28,458
Then when you get up
to New York and looking
853
00:40:28,583 --> 00:40:30,833
at the scope of
that, you realize,
854
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,333
oh my God, they
don't have a chance.
855
00:40:33,458 --> 00:40:35,625
There's a whole
other world out there
856
00:40:35,750 --> 00:40:38,917
that had never heard of
Jim Crockett Promotions.
857
00:40:39,042 --> 00:40:44,250
And what Jim Crockett
Promotions failed to recognize
858
00:40:44,375 --> 00:40:47,250
was that other audience.
859
00:40:47,375 --> 00:40:49,208
It was a family-owned business.
860
00:40:49,333 --> 00:40:50,958
And we're running
around like rock stars
861
00:40:51,083 --> 00:40:54,333
and should have had a much
greater accounting principle.
862
00:40:54,417 --> 00:40:56,958
Crockett sold the
business to TBS.
863
00:40:57,083 --> 00:41:02,042
And Dusty got the call from
Vince to come work for him.
864
00:41:02,167 --> 00:41:03,583
Dusty Rhodes coming in.
865
00:41:03,708 --> 00:41:05,792
Now what right does this guy
have to step in the ring?
866
00:41:05,917 --> 00:41:08,167
Dusty Rhodes starting to
come out and prevent what was
867
00:41:08,333 --> 00:41:09,625
going to be an interrogation.
868
00:41:09,708 --> 00:41:12,292
It was a little
difficult at first
869
00:41:12,375 --> 00:41:14,625
because Dusty saw
himself as Hulk Hogan.
870
00:41:14,750 --> 00:41:18,375
Dusty looked in the
mirror and saw Hulk.
871
00:41:18,542 --> 00:41:21,417
We didn't have that
eyesight Dusty had.
872
00:41:21,542 --> 00:41:24,583
We looked at him and
went be the common man.
873
00:41:24,708 --> 00:41:29,500
One man's trash is
another man's treasure.
874
00:41:29,583 --> 00:41:31,417
At that juncture
in his career, he
875
00:41:31,542 --> 00:41:32,542
was no longer a spring chicken.
876
00:41:32,667 --> 00:41:34,500
He wasn't on the
top of his game.
877
00:41:34,625 --> 00:41:36,667
So I wanted to go with more fun.
878
00:41:36,750 --> 00:41:40,292
We did some vignettes of
Dusty, so entertaining.
879
00:41:40,375 --> 00:41:42,042
Have no fear, the son
of plumber's here.
880
00:41:42,167 --> 00:41:43,000
What's going on, baby?
881
00:41:43,125 --> 00:41:44,000
Thank God you're here.
882
00:41:44,167 --> 00:41:45,167
Woo.
883
00:41:45,333 --> 00:41:47,542
Hey, aren't you?
884
00:41:47,667 --> 00:41:50,083
This man is America.
885
00:41:50,208 --> 00:41:51,333
Dusty Rhodes.
886
00:41:51,417 --> 00:41:52,750
[music - "common man boogie"]
887
00:41:52,875 --> 00:41:57,417
He's just a common man
working hard with his hands.
888
00:41:57,542 --> 00:41:58,542
He's got the polka dots.
889
00:41:58,667 --> 00:42:01,125
Oh, I love it.
890
00:42:01,208 --> 00:42:04,083
Vince said polka dots.
891
00:42:04,208 --> 00:42:05,542
What?
892
00:42:05,667 --> 00:42:08,917
Dusty, we need-- he needs
polka dots, yellow polka
893
00:42:09,042 --> 00:42:11,333
dots everywhere.
894
00:42:11,500 --> 00:42:12,833
We think he's nuts.
895
00:42:12,958 --> 00:42:14,000
What can I say?
896
00:42:14,125 --> 00:42:17,458
I'm into polka dots,
the Dream getting down.
897
00:42:17,583 --> 00:42:19,125
It was the difference
between seeing
898
00:42:19,208 --> 00:42:23,792
somebody I looked up to and
respected and seeing a cartoon.
899
00:42:23,875 --> 00:42:28,208
We lost an authentic
working class voice.
900
00:42:28,333 --> 00:42:32,042
That ended the day the
yellow polka dots came on.
901
00:42:32,167 --> 00:42:36,667
I'm just a common man.
902
00:42:36,792 --> 00:42:40,125
I was mixed about seeing Dusty
Rhodes in the polka dots.
903
00:42:40,250 --> 00:42:41,667
I was kind of heartbroken.
904
00:42:41,792 --> 00:42:43,833
Because I wanted the
American Dream Dusty Rhodes
905
00:42:43,917 --> 00:42:46,833
with band-aids all over his
head, bleeding like a pig
906
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:50,583
every night, doing
the hard times promos.
907
00:42:50,708 --> 00:42:51,750
He didn't care.
908
00:42:52,167 --> 00:42:56,458
He was so glad to get the
call to come to the WWE.
909
00:42:56,583 --> 00:42:58,042
He would have worn a diaper.
910
00:42:58,208 --> 00:43:01,792
As long as he was getting a big
check, polka dots are great.
911
00:43:01,875 --> 00:43:04,333
There are fans to
this day who will
912
00:43:04,458 --> 00:43:06,833
try to convince
me that they made
913
00:43:06,917 --> 00:43:08,875
a mockery of the American Dream.
914
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,333
And maybe it was even
punishment for having
915
00:43:11,417 --> 00:43:13,667
been in the opposition
or not coming
916
00:43:13,833 --> 00:43:17,250
the multiple times that he had
been presented the opportunity
917
00:43:17,375 --> 00:43:18,208
to go.
918
00:43:18,333 --> 00:43:20,167
I don't see that at all.
919
00:43:20,292 --> 00:43:23,667
Whether it started out as a
rib, I was from that school of I
920
00:43:23,833 --> 00:43:25,667
want to make this work.
921
00:43:25,792 --> 00:43:28,000
I want to put this back
in somebody's face.
922
00:43:28,125 --> 00:43:32,833
It was a time the WWE was really
breaking through major pop
923
00:43:32,958 --> 00:43:33,833
culture.
924
00:43:33,958 --> 00:43:36,833
And Dusty was absolutely
a part of that.
925
00:43:36,917 --> 00:43:39,500
He was always that
guy, you give it to me,
926
00:43:39,625 --> 00:43:40,875
and I'll make it something.
927
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:43,917
And Dusty's role was to
make the people jump,
928
00:43:44,042 --> 00:43:46,625
to make the fans get
up out of their seats.
929
00:43:46,750 --> 00:43:48,417
When he was playing
the polka dot role,
930
00:43:48,542 --> 00:43:51,792
everybody still gravitated
to Dusty Rhodes.
931
00:43:51,917 --> 00:43:54,833
It was just 18
months of his career.
932
00:43:54,958 --> 00:43:58,583
And it was likely the
most money he'd ever made.
933
00:43:58,708 --> 00:44:00,667
And I don't think it was
a practical joke at all.
934
00:44:00,833 --> 00:44:02,875
And if it was, he threw
it back in their face.
935
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,500
And they were smart enough
to let him throw it back
936
00:44:05,625 --> 00:44:07,458
in their face and run with it.
937
00:44:07,542 --> 00:44:10,083
He's got more than
sapphire in his corner.
938
00:44:10,208 --> 00:44:11,542
He's got his son Dustin.
939
00:44:11,667 --> 00:44:13,917
And right there, I love that.
940
00:44:14,042 --> 00:44:16,542
I was there for all
these moments, man.
941
00:44:16,667 --> 00:44:19,875
And yes, of course I want
to be a pro wrestler.
942
00:44:20,042 --> 00:44:21,708
And I really want to do this.
943
00:44:21,833 --> 00:44:25,417
And I'm going to do this,
whether you like it or not dad.
944
00:44:25,542 --> 00:44:27,333
And he did not want that for me.
945
00:44:27,458 --> 00:44:29,375
He wanted me to go to college.
946
00:44:29,542 --> 00:44:32,250
But you know what I wanted more?
947
00:44:32,375 --> 00:44:35,292
I wanted to be like my dad.
948
00:44:35,375 --> 00:44:38,292
And he said, Dustin,
you want this business,
949
00:44:38,417 --> 00:44:39,417
I'm going to let you do it.
950
00:44:39,542 --> 00:44:40,667
This is my son.
951
00:44:40,792 --> 00:44:43,167
And the legacy of
the American Dream
952
00:44:43,250 --> 00:44:44,792
lives in this kid's heart.
953
00:44:44,875 --> 00:44:47,458
And what he don't know,
we're going to teach him.
954
00:44:47,542 --> 00:44:49,458
And because Dustin
Rhodes right here
955
00:44:49,583 --> 00:44:54,333
it's getting ready to get
funky like a monkey in Florida.
956
00:44:54,458 --> 00:44:55,958
He breaks me into the business.
957
00:44:56,042 --> 00:45:00,333
This is the first time that I
am hearing what pro wrestling is
958
00:45:00,500 --> 00:45:02,708
from the inside.
959
00:45:02,875 --> 00:45:04,958
Dustin had been in
Florida and felt
960
00:45:05,042 --> 00:45:07,292
that Dustin had the
chops at that point
961
00:45:07,417 --> 00:45:10,208
in his career, young,
still had a lot to learn.
962
00:45:10,333 --> 00:45:11,833
But why not?
963
00:45:11,917 --> 00:45:14,292
Let's give him a shot and
bring him in as Dusty's son.
964
00:45:14,375 --> 00:45:15,333
It was real.
965
00:45:15,458 --> 00:45:16,500
Wait a minute, what is this?
966
00:45:16,625 --> 00:45:19,875
We've got Ted
DiBiase on one side.
967
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:25,500
We've got Virgil on the other
side flanking Dustin Rhodes.
968
00:45:25,667 --> 00:45:27,167
Wait a minute.
969
00:45:27,250 --> 00:45:29,500
Whoa, did you see that?
970
00:45:29,583 --> 00:45:31,958
Oh no, oh no.
971
00:45:32,083 --> 00:45:35,667
Mark, look what they're doing
to Dusty Rhodes' son, Dustin.
972
00:45:35,792 --> 00:45:38,708
My first thought was like, this
could get very interesting very
973
00:45:38,833 --> 00:45:42,542
quickly, will Dusty Rhodes
be granted the freedom
974
00:45:42,667 --> 00:45:48,708
to tell the story of his odyssey
with his son, Dustin Rhodes.
975
00:45:48,833 --> 00:45:52,083
He swings at me like this,
straight onto my head.
976
00:45:52,208 --> 00:45:57,458
And the two corners hit me in
the head and busted me open,
977
00:45:57,583 --> 00:45:59,167
I mean, wide open.
978
00:45:59,333 --> 00:46:02,667
But I felt so alive.
979
00:46:02,792 --> 00:46:07,500
Oh no, Dusty Rhodes is covering
his son, trying to protect him.
980
00:46:12,625 --> 00:46:14,625
I'm just underneath
him, oh, my boy.
981
00:46:14,708 --> 00:46:16,208
And he's acting it out.
982
00:46:16,333 --> 00:46:18,167
And he's crying.
983
00:46:18,333 --> 00:46:20,875
And people are feeling
it in the arena.
984
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:23,500
And he's right there
with me, you know?
985
00:46:35,792 --> 00:46:39,750
He missed a lot of
Dustin's young life.
986
00:46:39,875 --> 00:46:42,333
And there was things
he needed from his dad
987
00:46:42,500 --> 00:46:45,042
that he didn't get.
988
00:46:45,167 --> 00:46:49,958
For the first time,
I think, in my life,
989
00:46:50,042 --> 00:46:55,458
I felt connected to him.
990
00:46:59,542 --> 00:47:01,667
It was probably some of
the most fun I ever had
991
00:47:01,792 --> 00:47:03,333
because I went outside the box.
992
00:47:03,417 --> 00:47:06,708
But as time went on in that year
and a half, I got tired of it
993
00:47:06,875 --> 00:47:09,000
at the end because it wasn't me.
994
00:47:09,083 --> 00:47:12,250
Boy, it's great to
be back with WCW.
995
00:47:12,375 --> 00:47:13,458
I'm talking about the--
996
00:47:13,542 --> 00:47:17,250
'91, '92, '93, Dusty's
the head of creative.
997
00:47:17,375 --> 00:47:18,500
He wrote the stories.
998
00:47:18,667 --> 00:47:20,583
He hired the talent.
999
00:47:20,708 --> 00:47:22,792
He set the direction
of the company
1000
00:47:22,875 --> 00:47:24,500
from a creative perspective.
1001
00:47:24,667 --> 00:47:28,125
He had just stepped
out of actively
1002
00:47:28,208 --> 00:47:29,417
being a full-time wrestler.
1003
00:47:29,542 --> 00:47:32,208
And he was more of an
executive producer.
1004
00:47:32,333 --> 00:47:39,167
And it meant he was with me
a great deal of my childhood.
1005
00:47:39,292 --> 00:47:42,542
He was our football coach
when I was in middle school.
1006
00:47:42,667 --> 00:47:44,667
He supported me in everything.
1007
00:47:44,792 --> 00:47:50,583
He made me feel like
the most special girl.
1008
00:47:50,708 --> 00:47:53,250
It was an easy relationship.
1009
00:47:53,375 --> 00:47:58,667
But there's no balance to having
the world and having a family.
1010
00:47:58,833 --> 00:48:00,208
We didn't suffer for it.
1011
00:48:00,375 --> 00:48:04,542
But I think on that climb,
my sister Kristin and Dustin,
1012
00:48:04,708 --> 00:48:06,625
I think that they did.
1013
00:48:06,708 --> 00:48:07,917
My father loved us all.
1014
00:48:08,042 --> 00:48:10,417
And he loved his kids
first and foremost.
1015
00:48:10,542 --> 00:48:17,500
It's the time and space between
all of us that's the enemy.
1016
00:48:17,625 --> 00:48:18,333
Come here, Dustin.
1017
00:48:21,042 --> 00:48:25,500
I want everybody to bear
with me just for a minute.
1018
00:48:25,583 --> 00:48:27,417
I want to talk to my son.
1019
00:48:27,542 --> 00:48:30,333
Dustin and Kristin could have
not spoken to me again as long
1020
00:48:30,417 --> 00:48:31,167
as they live.
1021
00:48:31,292 --> 00:48:33,250
And I would not
have blamed them.
1022
00:48:33,375 --> 00:48:36,833
I did nothing whatsoever to
be a part of their lives.
1023
00:48:36,958 --> 00:48:39,375
I made no attempt to
be that at a young age.
1024
00:48:39,542 --> 00:48:45,208
When you were born, I went off
to seek my fame and fortune.
1025
00:48:45,333 --> 00:48:46,958
I neglected you.
1026
00:48:47,083 --> 00:48:51,958
My favorite Dusty Rhodes
interview I cannot watch
1027
00:48:52,083 --> 00:48:56,708
without being too deeply
affected is the interview he
1028
00:48:56,833 --> 00:48:58,875
had with my brother.
1029
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:03,000
He lays it on me
with this promo that
1030
00:49:03,083 --> 00:49:07,000
is just hair standing
on your arms type stuff
1031
00:49:07,125 --> 00:49:09,500
to make you feel
something was real.
1032
00:49:09,583 --> 00:49:11,125
I'm terrified.
1033
00:49:11,250 --> 00:49:13,250
I mean, you know, you're thrown
into national television.
1034
00:49:13,375 --> 00:49:14,417
You're young.
1035
00:49:14,542 --> 00:49:17,250
You're greener than goose
[bleep],, yeah, terrified.
1036
00:49:17,375 --> 00:49:20,542
My dad's been doing this
for 20 something, 30 years.
1037
00:49:20,667 --> 00:49:21,875
It's easy for him.
1038
00:49:22,042 --> 00:49:23,917
But all these people
are staring at me now.
1039
00:49:24,042 --> 00:49:25,625
And my dad's talking to me.
1040
00:49:25,750 --> 00:49:26,542
And I'm listening.
1041
00:49:26,667 --> 00:49:27,875
How do I act?
1042
00:49:28,042 --> 00:49:31,125
I don't know what to
do except just listen.
1043
00:49:31,250 --> 00:49:33,833
When you walk behind
and you're not a leader,
1044
00:49:33,958 --> 00:49:36,208
then the view never
changes, baby.
1045
00:49:36,375 --> 00:49:38,583
The view never changes, baby.
1046
00:49:38,708 --> 00:49:41,500
The view never changes.
1047
00:49:41,583 --> 00:49:45,500
You have the ability to be the
World's Heavyweight Wrestling
1048
00:49:45,625 --> 00:49:47,000
Champion.
1049
00:49:47,167 --> 00:49:50,208
There is not a great athlete
at your age in this sport.
1050
00:49:50,333 --> 00:49:54,167
To bring that to life within
the context of a story
1051
00:49:54,250 --> 00:50:00,583
and the real emotion that
manifests because of it, wow.
1052
00:50:00,708 --> 00:50:05,000
I'm asking you if you can
carry this old out of shape,
1053
00:50:05,167 --> 00:50:07,833
old bent out, old
spindly-legged man--
1054
00:50:07,958 --> 00:50:10,083
I want to be your partner.
1055
00:50:12,708 --> 00:50:14,500
To offer to be his partner--
1056
00:50:20,250 --> 00:50:23,417
that's like every
kid wants that.
1057
00:50:23,542 --> 00:50:25,250
And Dustin deserved that.
1058
00:50:25,375 --> 00:50:26,333
He did.
1059
00:50:26,458 --> 00:50:26,958
I can't watch it.
1060
00:50:27,042 --> 00:50:30,583
But it's very special.
1061
00:50:30,708 --> 00:50:31,750
The Rhodes are blood.
1062
00:50:31,875 --> 00:50:33,125
I don't need a handshake.
1063
00:50:33,208 --> 00:50:36,875
What I need now from you
is just a hug and a kiss
1064
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:39,583
to seal the deal, baby.
1065
00:50:39,708 --> 00:50:42,417
[crowd cheers]
1066
00:50:45,167 --> 00:50:47,000
I had a ton of people
over at the house.
1067
00:50:47,167 --> 00:50:48,708
And I felt like he
was going to cry.
1068
00:50:48,875 --> 00:50:50,000
And I could hear
it in his voice.
1069
00:50:50,167 --> 00:50:52,917
And I thought, oh, this is bad.
1070
00:50:53,042 --> 00:50:54,583
I don't think I want to watch--
1071
00:50:54,708 --> 00:50:56,000
I don't think I can watch this.
1072
00:50:56,125 --> 00:50:58,000
And I had to leave the room.
1073
00:50:58,125 --> 00:51:00,875
And I remember them being
like, it's not real.
1074
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:02,792
It's not real.
1075
00:51:02,917 --> 00:51:03,708
It's fake.
1076
00:51:03,833 --> 00:51:04,667
I'm like, OK, buddy.
1077
00:51:04,833 --> 00:51:05,917
I got it.
1078
00:51:06,042 --> 00:51:08,333
I mean, it's really
just beautiful.
1079
00:51:08,458 --> 00:51:10,167
There were plenty
of people in that
1080
00:51:10,250 --> 00:51:13,750
crowd who had problems
with their dad or their dad
1081
00:51:13,875 --> 00:51:15,000
had problems with the son.
1082
00:51:15,083 --> 00:51:16,167
And I don't think
there was anything
1083
00:51:16,292 --> 00:51:18,500
my dad was ever that proud of.
1084
00:51:18,583 --> 00:51:19,667
Here he comes.
1085
00:51:19,833 --> 00:51:21,458
Here we go.
1086
00:51:21,542 --> 00:51:25,667
Dustin will tell you, I always
wanted to be like my dad.
1087
00:51:25,750 --> 00:51:27,500
Those are hard shoes to fill.
1088
00:51:27,667 --> 00:51:30,375
And I think he always felt
a tremendous amount of pain
1089
00:51:30,500 --> 00:51:34,625
and pressure that just built,
and built, and just stayed
1090
00:51:34,708 --> 00:51:35,667
with him.
1091
00:51:35,792 --> 00:51:37,417
Dustin got married to Terry.
1092
00:51:37,542 --> 00:51:39,500
Dusty thought it was
a very bad decision
1093
00:51:39,625 --> 00:51:41,167
and was very vocal
about it, which
1094
00:51:41,292 --> 00:51:43,958
I think is where they went their
separate ways at that point.
1095
00:51:44,042 --> 00:51:46,958
I think that Dustin
had a lot of resentment
1096
00:51:47,042 --> 00:51:48,833
from when he was growing up.
1097
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:53,000
And his wife just
played into all of that.
1098
00:51:53,125 --> 00:51:59,542
I was made to choose a
woman over my father.
1099
00:51:59,667 --> 00:52:01,667
And I chose the woman.
1100
00:52:01,792 --> 00:52:02,542
I was mad.
1101
00:52:02,667 --> 00:52:03,667
And I was angry.
1102
00:52:03,750 --> 00:52:07,042
I didn't want anything
to do with my father.
1103
00:52:07,167 --> 00:52:09,333
I didn't talk to my
dad for five years.
1104
00:52:09,500 --> 00:52:14,292
It was heartbreaking because he
suffered greatly because of it.
1105
00:52:14,417 --> 00:52:17,125
During those five years,
I wanted nothing else
1106
00:52:17,208 --> 00:52:20,167
than to do something different.
1107
00:52:20,250 --> 00:52:24,417
I was tired of
being Dustin Rhodes.
1108
00:52:24,542 --> 00:52:28,625
[breathes in]
1109
00:52:28,708 --> 00:52:29,250
Goldust.
1110
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:36,167
We're sitting there
watching Dustin.
1111
00:52:36,333 --> 00:52:42,000
And Dusty is just floored
because he didn't have a clue.
1112
00:52:42,167 --> 00:52:46,167
All he knew was that Dustin was
going to go to work at the WWE.
1113
00:52:46,292 --> 00:52:49,000
And we all just
looked at each other.
1114
00:52:49,083 --> 00:52:51,208
Dustin was Goldust.
1115
00:52:51,375 --> 00:52:53,125
What does American
Dream think of Goldust?
1116
00:52:53,208 --> 00:52:57,208
Well, I really
don't have any idea.
1117
00:52:57,333 --> 00:52:59,042
It's been about 2
years, 2 and 1/2 years
1118
00:52:59,167 --> 00:53:00,333
since I've talked to him.
1119
00:53:00,458 --> 00:53:02,500
Because of some mistakes
he'd made with Dustin,
1120
00:53:02,625 --> 00:53:05,833
Dustin was right in
being upset with Dad.
1121
00:53:05,958 --> 00:53:07,375
He was.
1122
00:53:07,500 --> 00:53:10,000
Where he wasn't right was
letting the entire world know.
1123
00:53:10,167 --> 00:53:11,208
I know you guys haven't talked.
1124
00:53:11,333 --> 00:53:12,500
Maybe it's not a bad
opportunity to say
1125
00:53:12,625 --> 00:53:14,750
what you got on your
mind, say what, at least,
1126
00:53:14,875 --> 00:53:16,417
you want to say.
1127
00:53:16,542 --> 00:53:17,000
About what?
1128
00:53:17,125 --> 00:53:20,042
I can-- what's to say?
1129
00:53:20,208 --> 00:53:23,125
My initial impression
of that character
1130
00:53:23,208 --> 00:53:24,542
was that it was a
slap in the face.
1131
00:53:24,667 --> 00:53:27,500
It was an insult to
Dusty and to Dustin.
1132
00:53:27,625 --> 00:53:29,583
It's the dream.
1133
00:53:29,708 --> 00:53:31,000
It's a nightmare.
1134
00:53:31,125 --> 00:53:32,292
[inaudible]
1135
00:53:32,375 --> 00:53:35,625
He's been-- I guess
he's Dust Dust tonight.
1136
00:53:35,708 --> 00:53:38,250
Look at that.
1137
00:53:38,375 --> 00:53:43,042
The danger going into
a real life back story
1138
00:53:43,208 --> 00:53:46,417
is they go into a
story and everybody's
1139
00:53:46,542 --> 00:53:50,875
willing to pull back
the curtain this much.
1140
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:52,167
Everybody is cool with that.
1141
00:53:52,333 --> 00:53:54,208
But after a certain
amount of time,
1142
00:53:54,333 --> 00:53:56,083
you want the audience
to lean into with you,
1143
00:53:56,208 --> 00:53:59,042
you go from that
much of the story
1144
00:53:59,208 --> 00:54:02,292
to that much of the story.
1145
00:54:02,375 --> 00:54:05,292
And now, you're exposing
things and talking about things
1146
00:54:05,417 --> 00:54:08,583
that you never really thought
you would or intended to.
1147
00:54:08,708 --> 00:54:13,333
And you don't realize how
much it's going to affect you
1148
00:54:13,417 --> 00:54:16,167
or the other people involved
until after you do it.
1149
00:54:16,333 --> 00:54:17,833
And by then, it's too late.
1150
00:54:17,958 --> 00:54:19,708
Oh, here we go.
1151
00:54:19,833 --> 00:54:21,833
Woo!
1152
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:24,542
Those things were way too far.
1153
00:54:24,708 --> 00:54:27,625
It was not easy because
deep down I wanted him.
1154
00:54:33,208 --> 00:54:37,250
And I know he did too.
1155
00:54:37,375 --> 00:54:40,333
But we're both hardheaded.
1156
00:54:40,458 --> 00:54:43,708
And we both didn't
pick up the phone.
1157
00:54:43,833 --> 00:54:45,167
My dad was depressed.
1158
00:54:45,333 --> 00:54:48,917
He was-- he seemed really low.
1159
00:54:49,042 --> 00:54:55,958
I'd find him sitting out on
our porch, just like so down.
1160
00:54:56,042 --> 00:55:02,708
And he'd say, you know, I was
never a good father to Dustin.
1161
00:55:02,833 --> 00:55:04,000
I should have done this.
1162
00:55:04,125 --> 00:55:06,500
I should have done that.
1163
00:55:06,625 --> 00:55:10,625
It was really painful time,
very painful time in our life.
1164
00:55:10,708 --> 00:55:13,375
During that time, my mom
just kind of instinctively
1165
00:55:13,500 --> 00:55:16,000
knew that she wasn't going to
get to see Dustin's daughter
1166
00:55:16,125 --> 00:55:17,292
Dakota.
1167
00:55:17,375 --> 00:55:21,000
I remember the last
time we saw her.
1168
00:55:21,167 --> 00:55:23,500
I remember she cried
on the way home.
1169
00:55:23,625 --> 00:55:27,500
This falling out meant he
also cut me and Teil out.
1170
00:55:27,583 --> 00:55:30,042
And that creates
the same resentment
1171
00:55:30,167 --> 00:55:32,042
that you were fighting against.
1172
00:55:47,792 --> 00:55:50,000
This young fellow, when
he was eight years old,
1173
00:55:50,083 --> 00:55:54,792
was digging ditches for his dad
who was a plumber out in Texas.
1174
00:55:54,917 --> 00:55:58,333
And he told our next
inductee there is
1175
00:55:58,500 --> 00:56:01,625
and can be an American Dream.
1176
00:56:01,750 --> 00:56:05,750
The American Dream Dusty Rhodes.
1177
00:56:05,875 --> 00:56:08,875
[crowd cheers]
1178
00:56:10,208 --> 00:56:11,625
I remember as a
kid, we would have
1179
00:56:11,708 --> 00:56:15,917
conversations where he treated
me like one of the boys
1180
00:56:16,042 --> 00:56:17,417
in wrestling.
1181
00:56:17,542 --> 00:56:19,417
And when you're the biggest
fan of your dad, I mean,
1182
00:56:19,542 --> 00:56:22,625
that's like the ultimate
gift on Earth to have that.
1183
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:26,917
Cody was dressed in the
boots, and the jeans,
1184
00:56:27,042 --> 00:56:28,333
and the Western shirt.
1185
00:56:28,417 --> 00:56:30,917
And it was important to
Dusty to hand that to him.
1186
00:56:31,042 --> 00:56:32,417
That was his boy.
1187
00:56:32,542 --> 00:56:35,042
I'm just standing there holding
this Hall of Fame trophy.
1188
00:56:35,167 --> 00:56:39,333
And I thought it was the
greatest thing ever in my life.
1189
00:56:39,458 --> 00:56:42,458
Part of the reason I
went on this vision quest
1190
00:56:42,542 --> 00:56:44,917
with Amateur Wrestling
and had such success,
1191
00:56:45,042 --> 00:56:49,333
I loved that we were
together with wrestling.
1192
00:56:49,417 --> 00:56:53,000
Eventually, I fell in
love with pro wrestling.
1193
00:56:53,167 --> 00:56:57,333
There was nothing else that
I would ever want to do.
1194
00:56:57,500 --> 00:57:02,000
I want to thank my children,
Teil, and Cody, Kristin,
1195
00:57:02,125 --> 00:57:04,542
and Dustin Rhodes.
1196
00:57:04,667 --> 00:57:07,000
You want me to elaborate?
1197
00:57:07,167 --> 00:57:10,833
It wasn't on my radar, honestly.
1198
00:57:10,958 --> 00:57:14,458
I just-- I wasn't there.
1199
00:57:14,542 --> 00:57:19,250
And then grow up,
you see what truly is
1200
00:57:19,375 --> 00:57:21,875
important to you in your life.
1201
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:25,167
After not speaking to
my dad for five years,
1202
00:57:25,292 --> 00:57:27,083
we go with Barry
Windham to Jacksonville.
1203
00:57:27,208 --> 00:57:28,583
And I pull up in
the parking lot.
1204
00:57:28,708 --> 00:57:30,958
And Barry says your dad is
here, you know that right?
1205
00:57:31,042 --> 00:57:33,000
I'm like, OK, whatever.
1206
00:57:33,125 --> 00:57:34,167
He walks up to me.
1207
00:57:34,250 --> 00:57:36,458
And I don't know what to expect.
1208
00:57:36,542 --> 00:57:38,125
And he walks up.
1209
00:57:38,208 --> 00:57:41,958
And then at the last like six
feet, he walks a little faster.
1210
00:57:45,542 --> 00:57:48,500
And he puts his--
1211
00:57:48,667 --> 00:57:50,000
he basically tackles me.
1212
00:57:50,125 --> 00:57:52,042
And he hugs me.
1213
00:57:55,042 --> 00:57:57,167
And I hugged him.
1214
00:57:57,250 --> 00:58:00,667
And we hugged and
didn't say a word.
1215
00:58:04,375 --> 00:58:10,375
Immediately, everything that
was on his shoulders and mine-
1216
00:58:10,500 --> 00:58:12,875
dropped.
1217
00:58:13,042 --> 00:58:14,125
I was little.
1218
00:58:14,208 --> 00:58:18,000
So I know that there were
issues of pops and dad.
1219
00:58:18,125 --> 00:58:20,000
But there was never
anything bad that I knew of.
1220
00:58:20,125 --> 00:58:22,958
I didn't learn about that
until I was much older.
1221
00:58:23,083 --> 00:58:24,958
But he was so happy
that he was back.
1222
00:58:25,083 --> 00:58:27,375
And I don't think
that either of them
1223
00:58:27,542 --> 00:58:29,750
wanted to think too much
about what happened.
1224
00:58:29,875 --> 00:58:32,458
They just want it
to be over that.
1225
00:58:32,583 --> 00:58:34,917
He loved us all the same.
1226
00:58:35,042 --> 00:58:36,250
He really did.
1227
00:58:36,375 --> 00:58:39,042
And that was a hard
lesson for a young--
1228
00:58:39,167 --> 00:58:43,250
going into his teenage
years me to learn.
1229
00:58:43,375 --> 00:58:46,875
But my dad wanted his son back.
1230
00:58:47,042 --> 00:58:48,000
That was it.
1231
00:58:51,750 --> 00:58:54,583
This is where the big boys
play, let me tell you something.
1232
00:58:54,708 --> 00:59:00,375
There is no better anywhere
in the world than WCW.
1233
00:59:00,542 --> 00:59:03,708
As head of creativomething br
1234
00:59:03,833 --> 00:59:06,500
than most people saw when
he looked at the wrestling
1235
00:59:06,583 --> 00:59:08,167
product.
1236
00:59:08,250 --> 00:59:11,500
He got him in a Power Slam.
1237
00:59:11,625 --> 00:59:12,333
We got it!
1238
00:59:12,458 --> 00:59:13,167
Simmons got it!
1239
00:59:13,250 --> 00:59:14,583
Simmons has won the match.
1240
00:59:14,708 --> 00:59:16,250
Simmons is the champion.
1241
00:59:16,375 --> 00:59:21,500
He worked for Ron Simmons to
be the first Black champion.
1242
00:59:21,625 --> 00:59:24,792
He was pretty true
to this vision that
1243
00:59:24,875 --> 00:59:27,167
made it possible
for us to expand
1244
00:59:27,250 --> 00:59:28,792
this idea of the American dream.
1245
00:59:28,875 --> 00:59:31,292
And that right
there just tells you
1246
00:59:31,375 --> 00:59:33,417
a whole lot about Dusty Rhodes.
1247
00:59:33,542 --> 00:59:35,333
Dusty was the guy
to step up front
1248
00:59:35,458 --> 00:59:38,875
and say, no, this is the guy
who should be our champion.
1249
00:59:39,042 --> 00:59:42,667
Opportunity knocks
for WCW, the showcase
1250
00:59:42,792 --> 00:59:44,708
of professional wrestling.
1251
00:59:44,875 --> 00:59:46,667
But Dusty had a
hard time adjusting
1252
00:59:46,792 --> 00:59:48,333
to a corporate environment.
1253
00:59:48,458 --> 00:59:51,583
Dusty just really
didn't do the best
1254
00:59:51,708 --> 00:59:53,542
with not being his own boss.
1255
00:59:53,667 --> 00:59:56,125
And he had his
hands in cuffs a lot
1256
00:59:56,208 --> 00:59:59,667
because of the corporate
structure of Turner and World
1257
00:59:59,833 --> 01:00:01,000
Championship Wrestling.
1258
01:00:01,125 --> 01:00:02,917
But Dusty was a part
of the team that
1259
01:00:03,042 --> 01:00:08,167
was finally beating WWE from
'96 until about the end of '98.
1260
01:00:08,250 --> 01:00:10,250
That was a fun ride.
1261
01:00:10,375 --> 01:00:13,542
And then Vince McMahon started
to turn it around again.
1262
01:00:13,667 --> 01:00:15,875
That was less fun.
1263
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:20,083
And ultimately, led
to the end of WCW.
1264
01:00:20,208 --> 01:00:25,208
I think at that point,
Dusty was kind of just done.
1265
01:00:25,333 --> 01:00:29,625
One of the things about growing
up in a culture of poverty,
1266
01:00:29,708 --> 01:00:35,958
it instills within you a
value of being really present
1267
01:00:36,042 --> 01:00:37,167
oriented.
1268
01:00:37,292 --> 01:00:42,042
He never had that ability
to look to the future,
1269
01:00:42,167 --> 01:00:45,708
to plan for the future,
to prepare for the future.
1270
01:00:45,875 --> 01:00:50,125
My dad's motto was always if I
have one dollar in my pocket,
1271
01:00:50,208 --> 01:00:51,417
I'm spending two.
1272
01:00:51,542 --> 01:00:54,917
Spend your money,
you'll make more later.
1273
01:00:55,042 --> 01:00:56,125
You don't need to do that.
1274
01:00:56,208 --> 01:00:58,167
Don't do that.
1275
01:00:58,250 --> 01:01:00,417
My dad always said, you
come through life one time,
1276
01:01:00,542 --> 01:01:01,958
you might as well
pass by on a Cadillac.
1277
01:01:02,042 --> 01:01:04,500
And buddy, I passed
by a Cadillac.
1278
01:01:04,625 --> 01:01:06,583
Overspending, got
behind the IRS.
1279
01:01:06,708 --> 01:01:11,542
I'm talking about a
dollar in my pocket.
1280
01:01:11,667 --> 01:01:14,125
We were very broke.
1281
01:01:14,208 --> 01:01:16,125
And he did everything
in his power
1282
01:01:16,208 --> 01:01:18,792
to make it so that
we didn't know.
1283
01:01:18,875 --> 01:01:22,542
I do know it was incredibly
difficult on him and my mother.
1284
01:01:22,708 --> 01:01:25,625
I know that they
almost didn't make it.
1285
01:01:25,750 --> 01:01:28,167
My mom had gone back to
school to be a nurse,
1286
01:01:28,292 --> 01:01:29,917
and to get a job, and
to work in a hospital.
1287
01:01:30,042 --> 01:01:32,208
And I thought at the time,
she just wanted a career.
1288
01:01:32,375 --> 01:01:33,417
Her kids were older.
1289
01:01:33,542 --> 01:01:37,958
I didn't realize
how dire it was.
1290
01:01:38,042 --> 01:01:41,000
This is ECW!
1291
01:01:41,167 --> 01:01:43,542
Paul Heyman gave me a
job when I was broke.
1292
01:01:43,667 --> 01:01:44,917
And he knew I was on my ass.
1293
01:01:45,042 --> 01:01:51,958
The one, the only, the
American Dream Dusty Rhodes.
1294
01:01:52,042 --> 01:01:57,500
The worst part is where a
wrestler loses the business
1295
01:01:57,625 --> 01:01:58,833
completely.
1296
01:01:58,917 --> 01:02:01,583
He's used to being out
in front of a crowd.
1297
01:02:01,708 --> 01:02:03,958
Used to making a
consistent living.
1298
01:02:04,042 --> 01:02:06,750
It's not an easy ride when
you're down in wrestling.
1299
01:02:06,875 --> 01:02:11,083
It's really hard to pull
the nose back up on it.
1300
01:02:11,208 --> 01:02:14,000
He did some work for
Paul's promotion.
1301
01:02:14,125 --> 01:02:16,667
He did independent promotions.
1302
01:02:16,792 --> 01:02:19,167
And things were just
getting worse, and worse,
1303
01:02:19,292 --> 01:02:20,792
and worse financially.
1304
01:02:24,792 --> 01:02:25,833
Ladies and gentlemen,
it is now time
1305
01:02:25,917 --> 01:02:30,500
to induct the American
Dream Dusty Rhodes.
1306
01:02:30,667 --> 01:02:35,708
Please welcome his two sons,
Dustin Runnels and Cody Rhodes.
1307
01:02:39,500 --> 01:02:40,375
He didn't need a pit.
1308
01:02:40,500 --> 01:02:41,583
He didn't need a parlor.
1309
01:02:41,708 --> 01:02:42,708
He didn't need a shop.
1310
01:02:42,833 --> 01:02:45,917
All Dusty Rhodes
needed was a mic.
1311
01:02:46,042 --> 01:02:48,792
And one thing that he passed
in myself, my brother,
1312
01:02:48,875 --> 01:02:52,417
and my family is that
nothing or nobody
1313
01:02:52,542 --> 01:02:56,667
is bigger than this business.
1314
01:02:56,792 --> 01:02:58,958
I do remember Cody
at the Hall of Fame
1315
01:02:59,042 --> 01:03:01,625
and realizing right
then and there
1316
01:03:01,708 --> 01:03:03,542
that we had a future superstar.
1317
01:03:03,667 --> 01:03:05,458
Stay away from my dad.
1318
01:03:05,583 --> 01:03:06,583
You got a feisty one here.
1319
01:03:06,708 --> 01:03:07,583
What's the matter, Dream?
1320
01:03:07,708 --> 01:03:09,167
You can't stick up for yourself?
1321
01:03:09,250 --> 01:03:12,625
Even back then, you could see
that he had the Rhodes family
1322
01:03:12,708 --> 01:03:14,000
magic.
1323
01:03:14,125 --> 01:03:18,833
There is this respect
factor for this lineage.
1324
01:03:18,958 --> 01:03:22,083
At that point, I was
not ready for the mantle
1325
01:03:22,208 --> 01:03:24,667
of responsibility
that comes with being
1326
01:03:24,792 --> 01:03:27,125
a member of this family.
1327
01:03:27,208 --> 01:03:31,667
But he knew I was going
to make it on the level
1328
01:03:31,750 --> 01:03:34,000
that he had made it on.
1329
01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:39,750
Too often than not, some
of our old timers, some
1330
01:03:39,875 --> 01:03:42,833
of our Hall of Famers,
they get a bad rap
1331
01:03:42,958 --> 01:03:45,292
for not necessarily being
the best family men.
1332
01:03:45,375 --> 01:03:49,750
And I am here to tell you that
is a grave misunderstanding.
1333
01:03:49,875 --> 01:03:51,292
And if there was a Hall
of Fame for fathers,
1334
01:03:51,417 --> 01:03:53,917
you could bet he would
be in that one as well.
1335
01:03:54,042 --> 01:03:57,625
Our father, the American
Dream Dusty Rhodes.
1336
01:03:57,708 --> 01:04:01,208
[cheers]
1337
01:04:08,250 --> 01:04:11,167
When you go back and you
look at our industry,
1338
01:04:11,250 --> 01:04:13,333
you look at driving
down the road, night
1339
01:04:13,458 --> 01:04:16,667
after night, trying to
make a town, getting $25.
1340
01:04:16,792 --> 01:04:19,917
That's hard times.
1341
01:04:20,042 --> 01:04:24,375
But if I do that to make
it good times for the fans
1342
01:04:24,500 --> 01:04:29,250
that pay their money to see us
perform each and every night.
1343
01:04:29,375 --> 01:04:32,208
[cheers]
1344
01:04:35,333 --> 01:04:38,500
Wrestling industry is about
people brought really high
1345
01:04:38,625 --> 01:04:40,125
and then brought really low.
1346
01:04:40,208 --> 01:04:44,958
In that regard, Dusty Rhodes's
story is not exceptional.
1347
01:04:45,083 --> 01:04:49,542
But that he was able to
have another act after that,
1348
01:04:49,708 --> 01:04:51,875
that was incredible.
1349
01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:54,542
At the time, we
were trying to find
1350
01:04:54,667 --> 01:04:56,042
the next generation of talent.
1351
01:04:56,167 --> 01:05:00,333
And we knew that Dusty could
be very helpful with that.
1352
01:05:00,458 --> 01:05:01,750
It was so surreal.
1353
01:05:02,250 --> 01:05:06,583
Here's Dusty Rhodes interviewing
with me, like, of course, you
1354
01:05:06,708 --> 01:05:08,500
should have a job here, Dusty.
1355
01:05:08,625 --> 01:05:12,083
He was really excited to
develop and train our talent,
1356
01:05:12,208 --> 01:05:14,083
not only to be able to
perform in the ring,
1357
01:05:14,208 --> 01:05:15,708
but to be able to
cut a good promo,
1358
01:05:15,833 --> 01:05:18,625
to be able to tell a good story.
1359
01:05:18,708 --> 01:05:19,875
Dusty was really
the first person
1360
01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:22,000
to ever talk to me about promos.
1361
01:05:22,083 --> 01:05:24,750
There is an escape.
1362
01:05:24,875 --> 01:05:28,000
And I'm going to find it.
1363
01:05:28,125 --> 01:05:29,375
No matter what it takes.
1364
01:05:33,250 --> 01:05:36,667
We've cultivated a different
side of my personality
1365
01:05:36,792 --> 01:05:39,208
that I didn't know that I had.
1366
01:05:39,333 --> 01:05:41,292
Dusty was always
about being himself.
1367
01:05:41,375 --> 01:05:43,875
And he made me understand from
the get go that you're fine.
1368
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:45,958
You're perfect the way you are.
1369
01:05:46,083 --> 01:05:48,125
I didn't feel like I belonged.
1370
01:05:48,208 --> 01:05:51,417
But Dusty loved his broken
toys, as he called them.
1371
01:05:51,542 --> 01:05:55,208
And he really took the
time to really nourish me.
1372
01:05:55,333 --> 01:05:58,250
When you think of the
great women's wrestlers
1373
01:05:58,375 --> 01:06:01,250
who have changed
the times, you have
1374
01:06:01,375 --> 01:06:05,000
to talk about the American Dream
Dusty Rhodes and his ability
1375
01:06:05,125 --> 01:06:07,625
to mold this
generation of talent.
1376
01:06:07,708 --> 01:06:10,500
A lot of people deserve credit
for it, without question.
1377
01:06:10,625 --> 01:06:13,917
But Dusty Rhodes is one of the
people who made that happen.
1378
01:06:14,042 --> 01:06:15,167
But don't do it all four times.
1379
01:06:15,250 --> 01:06:16,833
You know what I'm saying?
1380
01:06:16,917 --> 01:06:17,542
Just a little bit.
1381
01:06:17,667 --> 01:06:18,500
Just enough.
1382
01:06:18,583 --> 01:06:20,042
He loved that job.
1383
01:06:20,208 --> 01:06:23,958
He loved working
with those kids.
1384
01:06:24,042 --> 01:06:27,417
When he was coaching
at NXT, him and my mom
1385
01:06:27,542 --> 01:06:33,000
both seemed so much happier,
so much more settled.
1386
01:06:33,167 --> 01:06:36,292
Later in life, when I look
at their relationship,
1387
01:06:36,375 --> 01:06:38,708
she brought him to
a place that I never
1388
01:06:38,833 --> 01:06:40,208
thought he would ever be.
1389
01:06:40,333 --> 01:06:44,458
Just a deep appreciation
for family, and I
1390
01:06:44,583 --> 01:06:51,042
think he saw an opportunity
to right some wrongs.
1391
01:06:51,208 --> 01:06:53,000
What was important to
me was the relationship
1392
01:06:53,125 --> 01:06:54,958
that I had with
him at that moment.
1393
01:06:55,042 --> 01:06:59,000
He would call me
every single day.
1394
01:06:59,083 --> 01:07:01,917
He didn't like being an old man.
1395
01:07:02,042 --> 01:07:06,333
But he really did
like being a grandpa.
1396
01:07:06,458 --> 01:07:08,167
Being grandparents you
just do all the fun
1397
01:07:08,292 --> 01:07:10,708
stuff, which was kind
of his lane, anyway,
1398
01:07:10,833 --> 01:07:14,000
whatever you want all the
time, Christmas every day.
1399
01:07:14,167 --> 01:07:17,667
That was kind of his brand.
1400
01:07:17,750 --> 01:07:22,750
He was a great man who
circumnavigated through life
1401
01:07:22,875 --> 01:07:27,750
and found his path, and found
his way, and figured it out.
1402
01:07:27,875 --> 01:07:31,750
But no matter what, he still
wanted to go out and conquer
1403
01:07:31,875 --> 01:07:33,417
the world.
1404
01:07:33,542 --> 01:07:36,417
[crowd chants]
1405
01:07:42,292 --> 01:07:45,083
Having two sons
you are proud of,
1406
01:07:45,208 --> 01:07:49,333
two sons that you love
with all your heart
1407
01:07:49,417 --> 01:07:51,417
is what's best for business.
1408
01:07:54,667 --> 01:07:57,667
We recognized that we had
this amazing opportunity
1409
01:07:57,792 --> 01:08:01,500
to have Dusty, and Cody,
and Dustin all in the ring
1410
01:08:01,625 --> 01:08:05,083
at the same time and
have a storyline that
1411
01:08:05,208 --> 01:08:09,167
really did pit two families
against one another.
1412
01:08:09,292 --> 01:08:12,500
I mean, it doesn't get
much more real than that.
1413
01:08:12,625 --> 01:08:16,667
You can give this job to
your glorious baby boy,
1414
01:08:16,792 --> 01:08:20,125
the one who's always done
everything absolutely right.
1415
01:08:20,250 --> 01:08:22,583
Or you can give
this job to the son
1416
01:08:22,708 --> 01:08:26,375
that you neglected all those
years, traveling on the road.
1417
01:08:26,500 --> 01:08:31,875
Stephanie, you can
go straight to hell.
1418
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:35,458
[cheers]
1419
01:08:36,167 --> 01:08:37,208
I was worried about him.
1420
01:08:37,333 --> 01:08:40,667
He was starting to
look really frail.
1421
01:08:40,792 --> 01:08:42,833
Stay down.
1422
01:08:42,917 --> 01:08:47,208
But he was excited to be in
the ring with both his sons.
1423
01:08:47,375 --> 01:08:48,792
It was a dream come true.
1424
01:08:48,875 --> 01:08:52,667
There is no length I will not
go to protect this family's
1425
01:08:52,750 --> 01:08:54,292
future.
1426
01:08:54,417 --> 01:08:57,208
And yeah, we're not
the perfect family.
1427
01:09:01,208 --> 01:09:04,417
Tonight, we fight for our lives.
1428
01:09:04,542 --> 01:09:07,083
Tonight, we fight
for our family.
1429
01:09:12,375 --> 01:09:15,792
My dad didn't like
being seen on camera
1430
01:09:15,917 --> 01:09:19,667
when he got older because he
didn't want to be remembered
1431
01:09:19,833 --> 01:09:21,125
as a fat, old man.
1432
01:09:21,208 --> 01:09:22,542
He wanted to be young.
1433
01:09:22,667 --> 01:09:24,250
The Dream is going
to stand in there.
1434
01:09:24,375 --> 01:09:25,667
And he got the belt loose.
1435
01:09:28,292 --> 01:09:30,333
It was the first
wrestling moment
1436
01:09:30,458 --> 01:09:33,958
I'd had in years where I
was like, this is great.
1437
01:09:34,083 --> 01:09:35,083
This is so good.
1438
01:09:35,208 --> 01:09:36,083
It was magic.
1439
01:09:36,208 --> 01:09:38,833
[inaudible]
1440
01:09:38,958 --> 01:09:40,375
Goldust.
1441
01:09:40,500 --> 01:09:43,167
It was crazy, crazy loud.
1442
01:09:43,250 --> 01:09:44,792
The people were all about it.
1443
01:09:44,875 --> 01:09:47,083
And the match was fire, man.
1444
01:09:47,208 --> 01:09:48,667
Here comes Cody.
1445
01:09:48,833 --> 01:09:50,542
Cody Rhodes.
1446
01:09:50,667 --> 01:09:52,167
Me and Dustin are
in there, trying
1447
01:09:52,292 --> 01:09:54,833
to have this five star classic.
1448
01:09:54,917 --> 01:09:55,875
And it is.
1449
01:09:56,042 --> 01:09:56,708
You can feel the tension.
1450
01:09:56,875 --> 01:09:58,333
You knew it was special.
1451
01:09:58,500 --> 01:10:02,417
But the crowd literally
comes up off their feet
1452
01:10:02,542 --> 01:10:07,833
when he threw his
hat at Dean Ambrose.
1453
01:10:07,958 --> 01:10:09,833
It's the American Dream.
1454
01:10:09,958 --> 01:10:12,417
Come get you some right here.
1455
01:10:12,542 --> 01:10:14,167
Yo!
1456
01:10:14,250 --> 01:10:16,792
The American Dream.
1457
01:10:16,917 --> 01:10:18,500
Funky like a monkey.
1458
01:10:18,667 --> 01:10:22,500
Dusty Rhodes has got
this place standing.
1459
01:10:22,583 --> 01:10:24,750
Do you believe in miracles?
1460
01:10:24,875 --> 01:10:26,208
He did what he does best.
1461
01:10:26,375 --> 01:10:29,167
He drew people in
and made them feel.
1462
01:10:29,292 --> 01:10:31,875
And he's the best at that.
1463
01:10:32,000 --> 01:10:33,875
Goldust.
1464
01:10:34,042 --> 01:10:35,625
It's up to you, Cody.
1465
01:10:35,750 --> 01:10:36,542
Cody's got him!
1466
01:10:36,667 --> 01:10:37,000
Crossroads!
1467
01:10:37,125 --> 01:10:37,875
Crossroads!
1468
01:10:38,042 --> 01:10:41,250
This is for your family.
1469
01:10:41,375 --> 01:10:43,250
The Rhodes have done it.
1470
01:10:43,375 --> 01:10:44,250
The Rhodes have done it.
1471
01:10:44,375 --> 01:10:48,208
Cody Rhodes and Goldust.
1472
01:10:48,375 --> 01:10:51,625
The Rhodes family is home again.
1473
01:10:51,708 --> 01:10:55,208
The biggest victory
in the history
1474
01:10:55,375 --> 01:10:57,792
of this legendary family.
1475
01:10:57,875 --> 01:11:00,583
I play it back in my head, and
I wasn't feeling really well.
1476
01:11:00,708 --> 01:11:03,208
I was dealing with some
issues, fighting them off.
1477
01:11:03,333 --> 01:11:05,500
But my God, it was just amazing.
1478
01:11:09,542 --> 01:11:11,833
It's something that
I will never forget.
1479
01:11:11,958 --> 01:11:16,583
It was a very huge moment.
1480
01:11:16,708 --> 01:11:20,167
It was like watching
this great performer
1481
01:11:20,292 --> 01:11:26,875
have one last stand,
one last moment.
1482
01:11:29,750 --> 01:11:34,417
That was the one and only
time the Rhodes were a whole.
1483
01:11:34,542 --> 01:11:37,875
And I didn't know
that that was it.
1484
01:11:43,167 --> 01:11:44,292
He loved this place.
1485
01:11:44,375 --> 01:11:46,250
He definitely did.
1486
01:11:46,375 --> 01:11:47,417
Yeah.
1487
01:11:47,542 --> 01:11:49,250
Look, we have some
friends today.
1488
01:11:49,375 --> 01:11:51,333
Always the longhorns.
1489
01:11:51,417 --> 01:11:52,375
I never told you this story.
1490
01:11:52,500 --> 01:11:54,958
But he got me a cattle chart.
1491
01:11:55,083 --> 01:11:55,833
And I studied it.
1492
01:11:55,917 --> 01:11:56,583
It was probably this big.
1493
01:11:56,708 --> 01:11:58,542
And it had every Charolais.
1494
01:11:58,667 --> 01:11:59,625
It had--
1495
01:11:59,708 --> 01:12:01,333
Oh my gosh, I think
I remember that.
1496
01:12:01,458 --> 01:12:03,833
I had to learn every
breed of cattle.
1497
01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:05,000
Oh my God.
1498
01:12:05,083 --> 01:12:06,667
And he tested me
on it constantly.
1499
01:12:06,792 --> 01:12:09,208
I think, secretly,
he wanted me to be--
1500
01:12:09,333 --> 01:12:10,250
He wants you--
1501
01:12:10,375 --> 01:12:11,958
Some bull rider or some [bleep].
1502
01:12:12,083 --> 01:12:12,667
Yes.
1503
01:12:15,125 --> 01:12:16,125
I miss him, honey.
1504
01:12:16,250 --> 01:12:17,125
I know, sweetie.
1505
01:12:17,208 --> 01:12:17,792
I know.
1506
01:12:22,375 --> 01:12:26,833
I go to this event in New
York and everyone's there.
1507
01:12:30,250 --> 01:12:33,833
And when I seen Dusty,
I couldn't believe.
1508
01:12:33,917 --> 01:12:37,708
He'd probably lost 60,
70 pounds at that time
1509
01:12:37,875 --> 01:12:39,792
from what I knew him as.
1510
01:12:39,917 --> 01:12:40,667
Something was going on.
1511
01:12:40,792 --> 01:12:43,250
But he never told
me what it was.
1512
01:12:43,375 --> 01:12:48,167
He was having these
mysterious signs of illness.
1513
01:12:48,292 --> 01:12:49,667
But he hated doctors.
1514
01:12:49,792 --> 01:12:53,042
And he felt like if he
didn't go to the doctor,
1515
01:12:53,167 --> 01:12:54,500
he wouldn't get sick.
1516
01:12:54,625 --> 01:12:56,583
It's like he hadn't
aged in forever.
1517
01:12:56,708 --> 01:12:59,667
And then it was like
all those years just
1518
01:12:59,792 --> 01:13:04,625
beating his body just
did catch up with him.
1519
01:13:04,708 --> 01:13:07,042
Tonight, I wined and dined
with kings and queens
1520
01:13:07,167 --> 01:13:09,458
and slept in alleys and
dined on pork and beans.
1521
01:13:09,583 --> 01:13:11,125
Dusty, thank you so much.
1522
01:13:11,250 --> 01:13:15,917
To see him kind of fall apart
in front of us was hard.
1523
01:13:16,042 --> 01:13:20,833
I didn't know yet just how
bad it was about to get.
1524
01:13:20,958 --> 01:13:24,250
One day, he woke up really
early in the morning.
1525
01:13:24,375 --> 01:13:27,792
He said, something's wrong.
1526
01:13:27,917 --> 01:13:28,958
And he collapsed.
1527
01:13:29,083 --> 01:13:31,208
He just collapsed.
1528
01:13:31,375 --> 01:13:32,042
I was frantic.
1529
01:13:34,875 --> 01:13:41,458
Doctor comes in and says
that he has an infection.
1530
01:13:41,583 --> 01:13:47,375
And it was just
eating his liver up.
1531
01:13:47,500 --> 01:13:49,292
I remember talking to the--
1532
01:13:49,375 --> 01:13:52,167
I said, y'all need to come.
1533
01:13:52,292 --> 01:13:53,458
You know, I got there.
1534
01:13:53,583 --> 01:13:58,625
And it just all went
downhill so fast.
1535
01:13:58,708 --> 01:14:01,542
He called Dustin
and I into the room.
1536
01:14:01,708 --> 01:14:04,625
And he asked if he could sit up.
1537
01:14:04,750 --> 01:14:07,000
And I couldn't pull
him up by myself.
1538
01:14:07,125 --> 01:14:09,833
And my brother stood on the
other side and pulled him up.
1539
01:14:10,000 --> 01:14:13,500
And as much as I'm
hard on Dustin,
1540
01:14:13,583 --> 01:14:17,333
there's not a better son.
1541
01:14:17,417 --> 01:14:18,917
I knew what that moment was.
1542
01:14:21,417 --> 01:14:22,333
He was awake.
1543
01:14:22,458 --> 01:14:23,458
So I said, are you OK?
1544
01:14:23,542 --> 01:14:24,625
Yeah, I love you.
1545
01:14:24,750 --> 01:14:26,000
And you know, I
said all my things
1546
01:14:26,083 --> 01:14:27,208
that I needed to say to him.
1547
01:14:27,333 --> 01:14:28,625
And he said them back.
1548
01:14:28,750 --> 01:14:33,042
And I go get Kristin
in the airport.
1549
01:14:33,167 --> 01:14:37,875
And I drive back and he had
already closed his eyes.
1550
01:14:38,000 --> 01:14:44,417
When I got to the hospital, he
was already in that state of--
1551
01:14:44,542 --> 01:14:45,792
he had already--
1552
01:14:45,875 --> 01:14:47,333
I mean, I didn't
get to speak to him.
1553
01:14:47,417 --> 01:14:50,958
So no, I didn't get to make it
there to have words with him.
1554
01:14:54,417 --> 01:14:56,208
He died.
1555
01:14:56,375 --> 01:15:00,333
It was 30 hours from
the time I called
1556
01:15:00,500 --> 01:15:03,208
the ambulance until he died.
1557
01:15:03,333 --> 01:15:04,333
It was awful.
1558
01:15:04,417 --> 01:15:05,458
It was just awful.
1559
01:15:05,542 --> 01:15:08,750
[music playing]
1560
01:15:10,125 --> 01:15:15,542
This week, this industry lost
a legend, the American Dream
1561
01:15:15,667 --> 01:15:18,292
Dusty Rhodes.
1562
01:15:18,375 --> 01:15:19,625
He gave everything he had.
1563
01:15:19,750 --> 01:15:21,000
It was his passion.
1564
01:15:23,792 --> 01:15:28,167
To everybody on this
stage, we lost family.
1565
01:15:28,292 --> 01:15:31,167
[bell rings]
1566
01:15:35,458 --> 01:15:36,667
It's over.
1567
01:15:36,750 --> 01:15:39,042
Dusty Rhodes has
achieved victory here
1568
01:15:39,167 --> 01:15:40,708
in Madison Square Garden.
1569
01:15:40,833 --> 01:15:47,667
The winner and new World
Heavyweight Champion,
1570
01:15:47,792 --> 01:15:52,167
the American Dream Dusty Rhodes.
1571
01:15:52,333 --> 01:15:55,500
[bell rings]
1572
01:15:55,625 --> 01:15:58,292
He hated funerals.
1573
01:15:58,375 --> 01:16:01,208
But I do think he would have
been touched by all the people
1574
01:16:01,375 --> 01:16:03,625
that came.
1575
01:16:03,708 --> 01:16:07,458
These giants that
you grew up with.
1576
01:16:07,583 --> 01:16:09,333
And you haven't seen
them in so long.
1577
01:16:09,500 --> 01:16:12,000
And they're all there.
1578
01:16:12,083 --> 01:16:16,708
I've always been impressed
with how revered he was from--
1579
01:16:16,833 --> 01:16:19,833
even from the old days.
1580
01:16:19,917 --> 01:16:21,708
I would go to events
and I would just
1581
01:16:21,833 --> 01:16:24,542
watch wrestlers ask
him for his advice,
1582
01:16:24,708 --> 01:16:27,083
I mean, internalize every word.
1583
01:16:31,167 --> 01:16:33,917
I miss him terribly.
1584
01:16:34,042 --> 01:16:36,958
But I know he is
not in pain now.
1585
01:16:37,042 --> 01:16:39,000
And now, I guarantee
it, he's getting funky
1586
01:16:39,167 --> 01:16:41,083
like a monkey with
the angels in heaven.
1587
01:16:45,000 --> 01:16:46,833
His professional
identity, it claims
1588
01:16:47,000 --> 01:16:49,667
so much of who we think he is.
1589
01:16:49,792 --> 01:16:53,875
But no, it's a minuscule part.
1590
01:16:54,042 --> 01:16:56,333
This is a cowboy of
the Old Republic.
1591
01:16:56,458 --> 01:16:58,333
He's a master orator
who spit fire.
1592
01:16:58,458 --> 01:17:06,625
But if you posed the question
to him, fame or family,
1593
01:17:06,708 --> 01:17:08,000
it was always family.
1594
01:17:12,875 --> 01:17:14,500
I was there at the end.
1595
01:17:14,583 --> 01:17:24,167
And the last thing he said on
this Earth was my mom's name.
1596
01:17:24,250 --> 01:17:29,125
And I'm glad they got that.
1597
01:17:33,583 --> 01:17:35,708
The important parts
of our lives were not
1598
01:17:35,833 --> 01:17:37,917
the wrestling or any of that.
1599
01:17:38,042 --> 01:17:39,167
We had a family.
1600
01:17:39,333 --> 01:17:40,500
We had a life.
1601
01:17:40,667 --> 01:17:43,167
And Dusty gave us a good life.
1602
01:17:43,333 --> 01:17:46,542
[cow moos]
1603
01:17:46,667 --> 01:17:48,375
Come on, baby.
1604
01:17:48,500 --> 01:17:53,292
God, you just sounded like
dad when you said that.
1605
01:17:53,375 --> 01:17:55,000
He loved this.
1606
01:17:55,125 --> 01:17:58,167
There's a special place
out there where he visited.
1607
01:17:58,250 --> 01:18:01,833
It's just a field with
a lot of longhorns.
1608
01:18:01,917 --> 01:18:09,208
And we thought it would be the
perfect place to lay his ashes.
1609
01:18:09,375 --> 01:18:11,542
What happened to the
little cross that was here?
1610
01:18:11,667 --> 01:18:12,583
It was right there.
1611
01:18:12,708 --> 01:18:14,500
We had to hang it up high.
1612
01:18:14,625 --> 01:18:16,375
So yeah.
1613
01:18:16,500 --> 01:18:17,833
I'm good.
1614
01:18:17,958 --> 01:18:19,333
Good.
1615
01:18:19,458 --> 01:18:23,500
I, of all the siblings, spent
the least amount of time
1616
01:18:23,625 --> 01:18:24,708
with my dad.
1617
01:18:24,833 --> 01:18:26,000
And when you don't
get that closure,
1618
01:18:26,167 --> 01:18:31,042
and when you don't get
that time, it's not easy.
1619
01:18:31,208 --> 01:18:33,875
But there was no question in
my mind that I loved my father.
1620
01:18:34,000 --> 01:18:35,667
And that my father loved me.
1621
01:18:35,750 --> 01:18:36,458
He knew.
1622
01:18:36,542 --> 01:18:37,500
He knew.
1623
01:18:37,625 --> 01:18:39,500
He knew.
1624
01:18:39,667 --> 01:18:40,833
We had differences.
1625
01:18:40,917 --> 01:18:43,000
But I always loved him.
1626
01:18:43,167 --> 01:18:47,500
It is very important to
me that we, as a family,
1627
01:18:47,583 --> 01:18:53,708
come together and uphold our
father's legacy because it
1628
01:18:53,875 --> 01:18:55,667
means something to this world.
1629
01:18:55,750 --> 01:18:56,333
It does.
1630
01:19:00,875 --> 01:19:02,958
Just one mystery remains.
1631
01:19:03,042 --> 01:19:05,708
Who will stand across
the WrestleMania ring
1632
01:19:05,833 --> 01:19:07,792
from Seth "Freakin" Rolins?
1633
01:19:07,875 --> 01:19:09,667
We know it's an opponent--
1634
01:19:09,833 --> 01:19:14,000
My dad, it's more difficult
because he won't see it.
1635
01:19:14,167 --> 01:19:18,542
But his thumbprints is all over.
1636
01:19:18,667 --> 01:19:20,542
Who's it gonna be?
1637
01:19:20,708 --> 01:19:23,708
[music playing]
1638
01:19:26,000 --> 01:19:28,167
My dad taught me so much.
1639
01:19:28,250 --> 01:19:31,500
And at this stage in my
life, at 53 years old,
1640
01:19:31,583 --> 01:19:34,333
it is all about giving back.
1641
01:19:34,417 --> 01:19:35,958
What's up kids?
1642
01:19:36,083 --> 01:19:41,375
And I'm proud to teach
the future superstars.
1643
01:19:41,500 --> 01:19:44,667
Cody Rhodes.
1644
01:19:44,750 --> 01:19:47,292
This is surreal.
1645
01:19:52,042 --> 01:19:55,000
High above the clouds,
a son of a plumber
1646
01:19:55,083 --> 01:19:58,000
is grinning from ear to ear.
1647
01:19:58,125 --> 01:20:00,458
I had the best
education in wrestling.
1648
01:20:00,542 --> 01:20:04,292
I can confidently say it's
because I was Dusty's son.
1649
01:20:08,417 --> 01:20:12,000
When I see a change in them and
they get it for the first time,
1650
01:20:12,125 --> 01:20:14,750
and you see it on their
face, that's the payoff.
1651
01:20:14,875 --> 01:20:16,542
It's the payoff for me.
1652
01:20:16,667 --> 01:20:18,792
[inaudible]
1653
01:20:18,917 --> 01:20:20,583
He would love this.
1654
01:20:20,708 --> 01:20:21,750
He would be so proud.
1655
01:20:21,875 --> 01:20:23,042
I know he is.
1656
01:20:29,292 --> 01:20:34,167
Bionic elbow, like
the American Dream.
1657
01:20:34,292 --> 01:20:38,833
I, in this moment, feel
really connected to my dad.
1658
01:20:38,958 --> 01:20:42,333
That, I know he's there.
1659
01:20:42,500 --> 01:20:45,333
[crowd cheering]
1660
01:20:51,708 --> 01:20:52,917
This is a great one, too.
1661
01:20:53,042 --> 01:20:54,583
What's that face?
1662
01:20:54,708 --> 01:20:57,542
That's about it right there.
1663
01:20:57,708 --> 01:20:58,583
Look at those stirrups.
1664
01:20:58,708 --> 01:21:00,583
He was trying to
prove to his dad.
1665
01:21:00,708 --> 01:21:02,000
No wait, what's the story?
1666
01:21:02,125 --> 01:21:03,500
Big Virgil cut him--
1667
01:21:03,583 --> 01:21:06,667
The story is that his dad
cut him from his own team.
1668
01:21:06,792 --> 01:21:07,667
I don't believe that.
1669
01:21:07,750 --> 01:21:09,208
The reality is, I think--
1670
01:21:09,333 --> 01:21:09,958
Maybe benched him.
1671
01:21:10,042 --> 01:21:11,375
Maybe benched him, yeah.
1672
01:21:11,500 --> 01:21:12,833
Yeah, I mean you got to
put your best hitters in.
1673
01:21:12,917 --> 01:21:13,875
Always a little bit of drama.
1674
01:21:14,000 --> 01:21:14,833
I've seen this one.
1675
01:21:14,917 --> 01:21:15,667
That was your coach.
1676
01:21:15,833 --> 01:21:17,333
Yeah, this is my coach.
1677
01:21:17,417 --> 01:21:19,375
So how was that
with dad coaching?
1678
01:21:19,542 --> 01:21:21,542
Great motivator.
1679
01:21:21,708 --> 01:21:22,750
Motivator, sure.
1680
01:21:23,208 --> 01:21:26,500
However, his defensive scheme
was genuinely very good.
1681
01:21:26,625 --> 01:21:30,583
So he had a second defense with
all the really overweight kids,
1682
01:21:30,708 --> 01:21:32,125
the Jumbo World Order.
1683
01:21:32,208 --> 01:21:36,042
And he made them
their own shirts.
1684
01:21:36,208 --> 01:21:39,000
That one is definitely
one of my favorites.
1685
01:21:39,167 --> 01:21:40,667
I know we need to pick one.
1686
01:21:40,792 --> 01:21:41,833
For the foundation.
1687
01:21:42,000 --> 01:21:42,833
We just have to pick one?
1688
01:21:42,958 --> 01:21:43,917
As we do the website--
1689
01:21:44,042 --> 01:21:44,917
The Little League field.
1690
01:21:45,042 --> 01:21:46,125
I mean, I like that one.
1691
01:21:46,208 --> 01:21:49,000
The Dusty Rhodes
Foundation is something
1692
01:21:49,125 --> 01:21:51,167
that my mom has started.
1693
01:21:51,333 --> 01:21:54,042
And it's perfect because
one of the things
1694
01:21:54,167 --> 01:21:56,583
that encapsulated
dusty was youth sports.
1695
01:21:56,708 --> 01:22:00,500
We've already given some money
away to a baseball program
1696
01:22:00,625 --> 01:22:04,500
in North Carolina, which is
an underserved community.
1697
01:22:04,667 --> 01:22:07,208
And we want to continue
to partner with them.
1698
01:22:07,375 --> 01:22:10,583
But we want to do all
the places that dad lived
1699
01:22:10,708 --> 01:22:12,000
and hopefully grow.
1700
01:22:12,125 --> 01:22:15,125
I mean, and it all
stems back to here,
1701
01:22:15,250 --> 01:22:19,125
in here is what he didn't
have, what he wanted.
1702
01:22:19,208 --> 01:22:22,875
The rules are everyone
needs to be involved.
1703
01:22:23,000 --> 01:22:24,208
We'll all do it together.
1704
01:22:24,333 --> 01:22:28,667
And that's maybe his
last wish, in a way,
1705
01:22:28,792 --> 01:22:32,625
that everyone get along and
everyone carry this legacy
1706
01:22:32,708 --> 01:22:33,292
forward.
1707
01:22:39,875 --> 01:22:41,542
When I was a kid, we
one day said, you're
1708
01:22:41,667 --> 01:22:42,917
going to be the American Dream.
1709
01:22:43,042 --> 01:22:44,125
You're going to fill a building.
1710
01:22:44,208 --> 01:22:46,083
There's going to
be millions come
1711
01:22:46,208 --> 01:22:48,125
to see the American
Dream, the greatest sports
1712
01:22:48,250 --> 01:22:49,500
attraction in the world today.
1713
01:22:49,667 --> 01:22:50,125
And that's true.
1714
01:22:50,250 --> 01:22:51,125
And you know it's true.
1715
01:22:51,250 --> 01:22:52,667
I am number one at what I do.
1716
01:22:52,792 --> 01:22:56,542
And it's going to be a good
while, a long time, that I'm
1717
01:22:56,667 --> 01:22:57,625
going to stay number one.
1718
01:23:02,417 --> 01:23:08,375
From Austin, Texas weighing
280 pounds, Dirty Dusty Rhodes.
1719
01:23:10,667 --> 01:23:14,208
The fact that Dusty Rhodes
is still influential
1720
01:23:14,333 --> 01:23:17,333
says something about
his cultural resonance.
1721
01:23:17,458 --> 01:23:19,375
As long as people
are struggling,
1722
01:23:19,500 --> 01:23:23,500
they will look to the
American Dream Dusty Rhodes.
1723
01:23:23,583 --> 01:23:27,792
Ask yourself was it
worth the damn pain?
1724
01:23:27,875 --> 01:23:29,250
Was it worth the pain?
1725
01:23:32,375 --> 01:23:36,833
Dusty Rhodes did it better
than all of us before us.
1726
01:23:36,958 --> 01:23:38,083
Oh, the bear hug.
1727
01:23:38,208 --> 01:23:40,000
When I went down,
reaching up, the finger
1728
01:23:40,083 --> 01:23:43,250
went up, that's Dusty Rhodes
all day long, brother.
1729
01:23:43,375 --> 01:23:45,333
I mean, when I was nine
years old, I saw him do it.
1730
01:23:45,417 --> 01:23:47,042
I stole it then.
1731
01:23:47,208 --> 01:23:48,667
I used it for 30
years in the ring.
1732
01:23:48,792 --> 01:23:51,500
We gonna get funky like a
monkey tonight, Teddy Long.
1733
01:23:51,667 --> 01:23:55,917
I learned a lot about having
fun from Dusty Rhodes.
1734
01:23:56,042 --> 01:23:59,292
You know what you can kiss if
you don't like what I'm saying.
1735
01:24:01,958 --> 01:24:03,167
Dusty had a way with people.
1736
01:24:03,292 --> 01:24:04,750
Dusty had a way with creating.
1737
01:24:04,875 --> 01:24:07,167
Dusty had a way
of talking to you
1738
01:24:07,333 --> 01:24:11,000
that would catch you off guard,
but also teach you a lesson.
1739
01:24:11,167 --> 01:24:14,000
Textile workers around this
country are out of work.
1740
01:24:14,125 --> 01:24:15,500
They've got four or five kid.
1741
01:24:15,583 --> 01:24:17,833
Can't buy them food.
1742
01:24:17,958 --> 01:24:20,000
That's hard times.
1743
01:24:20,167 --> 01:24:22,042
That's hard times.
1744
01:24:22,167 --> 01:24:24,792
Greatest of all time.
1745
01:24:24,917 --> 01:24:27,417
We sold out everywhere.
1746
01:24:27,542 --> 01:24:32,333
He had a lot of respect from
a lot of people and deserved.
1747
01:24:32,417 --> 01:24:35,500
The greatest sports
attraction in the world today,
1748
01:24:35,625 --> 01:24:38,500
the little plumber's son
who come out of the ditch
1749
01:24:38,625 --> 01:24:40,333
and became so sweet.
1750
01:24:43,375 --> 01:24:45,292
When you measure
the whole work, I
1751
01:24:45,375 --> 01:24:48,042
don't think there'll ever
be anybody to even come
1752
01:24:48,167 --> 01:24:51,750
close to what he accomplished.
1753
01:24:51,875 --> 01:24:55,167
Do I think I have lived the
American dream is the question.
1754
01:24:55,292 --> 01:24:56,500
I would say I have.
1755
01:24:59,708 --> 01:25:02,833
How do you, the man,
want to be remembered?
1756
01:25:02,958 --> 01:25:05,500
In the end, a good father.
1757
01:25:05,583 --> 01:25:08,667
That's the most important
thing to me is a good husband
1758
01:25:08,792 --> 01:25:09,375
and a good father.
1759
01:25:09,542 --> 01:25:12,958
And that's the way I feel.
1760
01:25:13,083 --> 01:25:13,625
Peace out.
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