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YOU AEGAN VOTING on tivo huge jmofecis:
me tan nins of Dekallog,
A MOCHA MMlAjMHALION of ihe Tan Commeanchnents,
and ie \nres Colors wilogy,
a modem initejoretadon of the symbols
Of MEATY, meedom, and egualliiy.
Are you attracted by the Challange
Ak ESO NUGE (MOJSCIS TAMESCME?
OmSTineimonversiimo yg your stlisitte interests
aVvalane tuncing?
The question or iuncling Wasxalifficrentinxeachkcase™
DEKAOG WAS ThaACe fOMOXACtIVASO OROOO}
AN 10 ‘filmes. hWVonnadktineatiicaliteleasess
The wnole operation the Polish equivalent of $100,000.
noni ANNU GEIEOMMENC/AUISUECESSS
Kt was financec! low loti the Ministry of Culture and television
ane] MACE Over whree Million collars, or 30 to 4,
SO yes, that was 2 Good return,
BUt We Waren t Expecting tine.
We tthhougint itt woulle! loe é local project, just for Polish TV,
Wwinieh we might possiloly sell] tOFAREMWAOING MCOUMIMIESS
We never tigured It woul Up evernwhere,
OUT It WAS
Or almost evernnwinere.
We click’ unett, We hacl no such plans.
aut Why SUC UGE (MO;ECIS?)
| COM KNOW that they were that huge.
Buigtinene nallemeennas to reinteroret
nese universal ane! wellkknown wore or slogans
OMmeOmmancimentss 2s in the of Dakalog.
I's a challenge to look att these things
@ lon chintearentihy tan has een clone so far,
SOMMUCENASHOSS AVN ECE In aloourt tine Ten Commandments,
NOWUSainneMniSt’anmlitenatune our Juceo-Clhristian too.
UT ii S NOt alll
There are cliftarent oliilosoplhical interorstations too.
SO mucn nas been written
inert Itt WOUEIAE itt on tne shelves in tinis room.
We thought It would! be Interesting to approach it completely clitiarentily,
SCAUSE that huge anrount Ofalitenatwne
OManemienkGoOminanadhnemnts ancl tine Bilole...
in essences looils clown
tio scholarly interorstations.
BU WS Came UO witin tne Iiceal
or tuming every Commeancme»nt
imtorancirallemec) for a human being.
Aincicankalnumaniiocing that challenge?
ls it even possilole?
Is it possilole to achhere COMMESEICOMmMan Gime mits
and trully aloicle loy tine?
IMSUCieAIComolicatedksituation
inet aloicling ly the Commancments is practically impossible?
We clicdn’t go tor relativism, becauiSebtiraliwasinntéiinesiSSuer
k was aloout our increasingly Complicatecklivessocays
our situation tocery,
Anal iit isn't just tociayy
R WAS Prosaly tne Same in days past, anc even ages ago.
Is a human being strong enough?
lr 2 person knows what they sinoulel co,
winy clo they clo something else?
tt souncs like relativism,
oun We hoped we'e] SucESee! ett avoiding ethical relativism.
/ Gan’t think the Dekaloeg mms ee ve cocumenterion GOCUMENMAULES?
lout iin Poland they were ertidckzec
ror having nothing to clo Vuhin TeEliy,
So they ra not cocumentaries ex alll, anc what's more,
many Poles tnoug|nt they were unloelievalole.
They sale events in the til could never have reallly happened.
SO ERS AS WO SiSpS:
Onemi«sSomethinopicallvaltaooeme cl iteStandocuimentanys
Two Is Greciilolligy. Coulchit{havelraoweneag
Personally || tink evan tine minor elements in every episoce
could! reallly have lhappenec,
Out many critics In Polane tak completely the opposite,
tinal Or ik Was Mace UP.
OF iif You Want to use more pejorative terms...
SES 7
lackinakereciilsiliinyz
Falogicated ancl tinereifore not erectiole.
‘iihat's clearly more pejorative,
BUM OURcanbalSonloortaigit from anotiher perspective.
Nou Coulle] Saty...
i's a cocumentanxiike recore.
Despite tine tact iNEEStOnleS¥aliehictional
Amcltivene nanactens are played! oy actors...
ane] ine tears are olycerinsincluced,
is a Sort of recorel of tine times,
@ RaCore! of the temperature of tihe times,
of how people lived! at that moment.
= In Poland in tne GOs? = Yes. And tirom that point of view,
vou coull! saty thet Darlag)
is a recore of a coriain periocl in time,
a given moment of tine in Poland.
OF course, It clealls Wit MOKELUIMIMEKSALISSUeS
raiiner than tine everyday events
hinalt PSople lhave tto cleall witin
K's the really of a panicular time, placemaniclooliticalisystenns
K's a recore Of EMMOESTOMAIS OCCA
tine or record] that [Ken Loach iSsamouswominnglanck
In a way, Daeralag ls like tet.
ts 2 recorel of human litte
in a Given time ane place.
SONG TE CRMACGAS polies
nad to Go wtih marital law,
Prom a roacker perspeciive,
we completely elimineree! politics as a theme or activity,
as something having any imporance.
We knew it was imrpoorniant,
loun Since we coullel clo DOtMin alo ouitaits
we ceciced it wasn't imporant att alll.
What is Imporant in Dekkallog?
| had the imoression ine fouolnt
2 sanes of lonely struggles Win everyday prollanmns.
YES, Of COURSE.
everyining's imporant except politics.
Fomelinesst siimoontamt. SO iis love, and tite lack of lowe.
fiitersensckounclolessmesom evervining.
Politics Is not, pecause it doesn’t play a role.
Kt only emerges inkceltalnkabsunclinc Gents
or very seconcany imporance.
let's harolly Holkties
OUR rainer the Consequences of political ineptitucle.
We tnere’s No water, or elevators cont work.
Minekesse mtialSxordlife pecomne prololematic.
li You exclude pomies as a motive ror any way of acting or thinking),
YOU BkSO @xahuncle
evaryining irom te iin that
iy ragaraed irom 2 stereotypical point of
CONSUMES ine stereotyoe of Pes
In tine @YES of Westie VIBWWAF3 OF Teaders.
When you eliminaie polltiics,
tS SIMTEOKYoe Of (PALES
Is Insianihy and absolutialy eliminated,
So theyre no longer Poles.
Winey Ive in Pokene, ney speak Polish,
anne] NAVE (PONS PASSVOME. Passpoms evan igure th Sim.
Bot han just (Poles, ney Te Also wno talon,
ane] Suiiter anc] rejoice over matters
thet are UNCATStooe
DO YOU tik (nas WiNY DBKANVOG) es so wal-recaivad In the West?
| think proloaloly so,
| loslieve Westen auciences
ar {6) UP with the Polish stereotype.
The complaining Pole, the marivr drowning in politics,
wie Pols tominentec loy tae due to his country’s poor location.
People in tine West are getting tired! of that image.
AN the same time, people in the West,
like PSOple around the wonrildl,
Glaclly WetIeh OWNERS WOES Maliehthe im oredicament
Oligeitanactens ACMIMAES IMIlAMmSItUAtOnE
hey ace Gholces ancl proolems
wiat EVERYONE iacSs, no matier where they are.
Alin Enolisn Viewer doesnt Get imoression i's Poland,
inant tne mincset is Polisi,
Or tha It WAS Tlinec in Ursynow in Warsaw =
Acwallly, it wasnt Ursymow. twas filmed in Dzika.
= || WAS SUIS It WAS. - No, it wasn’t.
kt Was Gnosen tor very cletinite photographic reasons.
Mewioe you know Ursynow.
K's very cispersed,
Very SPrEAac! OU.
K's loig), with a lot of open space.
YOu can never capwire It iimanclosedbiralmes
Well, mays, lout fit's very lnarel.
Tina's wii we niovec tio Dike.
inet was Our Iase!
Kt wasn't alll shot there, buitethakdoesimiimattenr
kt was aloout the atmosphere;
ne Daika area was lounikt more iin the style
used lnctiore the War,
Vine builcings seal of the horizon:
Ui VOU KOW te Eee,
ine bullcIings are positioned) ln such € Way
A WNGMTEVAT YOU Camera)
YOU gat 2 Glosed snot,
ywnieh GIVES the impression heaVre’S MO WAY
SOACS GIWVAYS (MOVICES 2 WAY OUR
Ine AMANCANS Shoot MMOSCHNUGE, SDACES
WmoaolinoviesioaWestems
There's always thiSESemMSCLOMmilieed om
You can always get out, because lit's so big.
SUN tihent UGE alSolimeans
VOU Gan che OF Mirst iintinalxdesent
OF imeeze To cleanin.
SUN YOU Cal Get OUIL.
A Glosedi tirame @ Sense of the inevitability of being there.
K's a sulsconscious tieeling, OME OURS?
Out fis winy we lookec! ior neightborhooes like that,
like Daika = or was it Dzielna?
Winieln was it?)
A tiriene! of mine lives there, [ can tell you exactly.
Dzikal
ik or my best Icleas OgDekalog
uO chirerant GinemaAognaynnanrs.
Becauservalllftineknilinns Wene as one production,
OMmexattemtinexotited SOMELIMESIEVE MOVE OINGE
SOMEetIMESMVEMVE ERS MOOting three clifferent tilms in one cary.
'Iinat allowee! us tio keep from Getting too bored.
Becaliserauleastiiomine:
ine actual jolo of clirecting is very boring.
Working with a new cinemetographer IinStamntWacralngeszalllatinats
ie lorings a trast new approach to the whole process.
Ane it wasn't just me.
Tine winole Mmecded something new ancl interesting
aier WOKING ON tine Project for three Months or tive montis.
NEWFACIORSROM VIOUS INzacced an interesting element,
DSCAUSS GAG EPISOCE featunectoifferenigactorsy
OU Ik WAS Also the clififerent cinematographers.
They'd change everything), from lighting to camera movements,
So evernihing else woul change too.
SOlincimensnacktomiecminie NOWAUINEY, sound.
Maye there were no shacows on the set betiore, ancl now there are.
Tha Means the Sounciman face sramneWacwallemges
And tif there's a challenge, the work gets interesting.
Nou know whet was reallly tunny?
EAcn Glhemetographer nad a very cliiierent temperament
ancl ciinterent work experiences
and in general a clinerent wey of telling a story on fil.
everyone tals a Stony their own wely.
Yet lin tine ened, tine tilms were shot in a similar wary.
They lhacl complete tireecion.
| cleln't chetane winat lens or what lighting to use.
Mitakwackaltiteimbusinesss
Koemenalll ¥XcomislOoke through the viewrinder.
BulikinowAinattars notauil Mlookdlike i the camera’s in a certain position
using, Sély, a SOsminn lens.
| migint le oir by hala centimeter.
| can clo tine same with a 35-=mm lens ancl oe wrong loy this much, not more.
| know alll tits, lout | don't look through the finder.
So they lhacl a lot of tireeciom to tell the story thelr wety.
/ read In an interVlew You Gave that while making Dekallog)...
you ane Mr. PiesiewlezZ asked yourselves
lOtStoifexiSiemtialeWestionst
a VinatliSiiraopinessr, What is love?
Winatt is tiraeclom?” = That's right.
Do you tintinkk there’s one universal morality,
or are tinere chinerant moraliiies
clepenciing on the people ancl tine times?
| belleve People Know what's good and what's evil,
itpoucallEtivatinerallity
Actually, | con't like aso wand “moval word “moral ty
as I'M SUPE you've real.
i’ | agreed! to tihatt worel,
el be setting myself up as a morallist,
Aas someone wino knows.
Bur li Someone wino doesn? reallly know,
SOMKotratnemaskqquestiomns than provicle answers.
| Know wihat questions tio asi, more or less.
SO | concem myseli with ethics rather than morality.
TO me It's loroacler!
Ane! |] avolel “nnorallizing,” ashilesxeallleor
Sy tinat || mean Preacning), lecturing, anc pointing out
WiNatrs Fight ancl wrong.
| believe everyone has¥akboaliometeminside
inert tells them tine clifierence benween trun ancl lies,
good ane] evil
ANG] PSOE TOllow that barometer iif they can.
WEWROItemmneksitUration means they can’t,
lout Given tine chance, tiney will.
DIGhOuUmfiincltivexanswensr,
They cont exist. No one’s found them, anc no one willl.
hers why tine questions are interesting.
IE UKE HO NGA more ALOU tne CONCH of Chance.
on ahah = 0g (S¥aaVOnlokomenanee
el like to focus on Darallogr Ive,
Wwinere tinls iciea Is orougint ronwarel beautiitully, in my opinion.
LOU OF ShUAUONS IN tne Til Ores the Gharacters to Goose:
Ko Go this Instead of tat
CO SOMBWUNG GSE, GO SOMBWNRE GIS.
Ine td chiver cout] nave pleked yp the young counle
or ine chunks In ie STeat
ane hi MIKE TEE an GnAMGe?
/ tai i's everyiuing.
Ks destiny, or fate if youl preter,
irs also Ghance.
Ane! to a great extent, our own free will.
The wax! Giriver Nac] A GAOIGS. Fie cleciclec! of his own free will
WO plek up tihe couple and not the drunk.
Anotner clrivar Wwoullel awe been killed, out not infin.
Ane! winetever JACSK COSs, ine It VEWACONSCIOUSIVE
Fle does winatt he wants. Why is another matter.
But wineeaver IN ClOes, ics of his own ree will.
Winy Ine Coes Itt is another meatier.
| DSlEVES tNOSSe wArSe Wings are Connecisal
Cnance, ate, ancl tira willl.
They iniiluencs our lives to chftarent cegrees, of course.
kt Cepencis on every person's lire Ane] ON Whe Moment.
SOmetiine spitesxomes SOMmetine SuileStanother
SOnnetimechissnemamneer SOMetinne Swe eRWill||™
oushing us where ft will.
We con't know winat It is, put something's pushing us.
But | cont know winiy I'in consicerec| such an expert on chances.
iOoalolVpoccause | @ ffl lov that title.
BUN take any other til = any tila you like.
Take One we lotin KmMow.
vou Ghanes ples @ loig role in every ‘film.
KS In ity iii too,
oun Iii Seen asrars peciallisionnenamnee®
though in my other tilms, ChancellShmanenmailneSSuer
Wy last question meayy be & lat (MOVOCHIIVE.
| Get the reeling you're quite inclitierent
KO Feviews oF your tilims.
= [hats Not true. = [Ss NO?
ls erttical opinion ais important to you
€s we audience's Opinion Omaspy OU SOnalksatiSfacionr,
| care very mucin aloout tine auclience’s opinion.
Or Gourse || co,
= But Go tie Chics COUN too? = Of Course.
PIrSt, WEY TS PAIR OfatherauGiencentoo:
Second, lif they re Gooe! critics,
ney also express tine opinion of part of the auclence.
NO cloulot aloourt Mu
Burt || Nave No =
YOu sail tits was a Provocative question. | don’t Why.
YOU Cen Saly you con't now why you're called
ONE OF te Greatest European film clirectors,
Winch In fact you are.
Tarts 2 Chirerant meer. Koomlduined enstanellita
oun | Guess tine people win© afout such things clo.
ht Cossn't meter tat | clon‘t!
| Just say winett | ieell. = Then you must be vary modest.
No, lin quite nomneall.
- Well, thank you vary mucin. = You've very weleone.
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