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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:04,500 About one person in 20 of both sexes is homosexual. 2 00:00:04,500 --> 00:00:07,800 On any busy street, you pass half a dozen every five minutes, 3 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:09,800 because, contrary to popular opinion, 4 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:12,600 most of them don't look any different from anyone else. 5 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:16,440 People can only tell the obvious ones, but they are a tiny minority. 6 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:34,200 - # For TC and his Honeybear 7 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:39,080 # The world will not stop moving 8 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:47,360 # For rendezvous and longing stares 9 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:54,120 # And hearts that won't stop burning 10 00:00:55,640 --> 00:01:00,680 # Before that Honeybear had given up 11 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:05,960 # He felt so sad and lonely 12 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:13,760 # Then one night he looked up and he saw 13 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:18,680 # He saw his one and only 14 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:26,840 # When TC came onto the scene 15 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:31,880 # He entered in on golden wings 16 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:40,000 # And with him he brought butterflies 17 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:45,360 # Of crimson red and emerald green 18 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:52,800 # Cos before TC Honeybear was waiting 19 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:58,600 # Was waiting for him patiently 20 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:06,400 # TC took his fear away 21 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:12,760 # Became his one and only... # 22 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:17,720 - REPORTER: - Homosexuals usually live two lives, 23 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:19,800 one of which is completely concealed 24 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:21,760 from their family and colleagues. 25 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:23,240 - No-one knows, no. 26 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:25,400 - How would they react, if they did? 27 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:27,120 - They'd be tremendously shocked. 28 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:31,560 The reason is that I live a very normal life... 29 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:35,480 ..back home. And I really live two lives - 30 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:37,640 one here, and one up north. 31 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:41,720 - It's estimated that one man in 20 is a homosexual. 32 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:45,240 These men are a minority - they receive minority treatment, 33 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:47,200 face prejudice and intolerance, 34 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:49,400 stand accused of depravity and vice. 35 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:52,720 - Whereas male homosexuality is a crime in Britain, 36 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:55,400 female homosexuality is perfectly legal. 37 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:57,800 Lesbians can be open about it. 38 00:02:57,800 --> 00:02:59,840 - And yet, for women who love women, 39 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:03,200 unqualified acceptance by our society still does not exist. 40 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:07,320 And so lesbians receive the minority treatment - 41 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:09,960 intolerance, suspicion, often disgust. 42 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:13,240 - In the heterosexual world, 43 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:15,400 the homosexual disturbs conformist values, 44 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:18,400 is shunned, and perhaps misunderstood. 45 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:21,760 Most homosexuals must lead a secret, dark existence. 46 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:29,520 - # The world came crashing down on them 47 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:34,520 # With all of its ferocity 48 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:42,040 # And Honeybear was terrified 49 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:47,520 # He said, do not take him, take me 50 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:54,960 # Before that Honeybear had given up 51 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:59,280 # He felt so sad and lonely... # 52 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:01,520 - I'll soon be back. 53 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:03,000 - Don't leave me here alone. 54 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:04,360 Where are you going? 55 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:08,960 - # Then one night he looked up and he saw 56 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:13,880 # He saw his one and only 57 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:22,440 # And he said, please don't take him 58 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:29,200 # Cos I love him 59 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:34,920 # He's my joy 60 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:40,640 # And my life 61 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:47,040 # For my love I won't hesitate 62 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:54,520 # I will give him all that his heart can take 63 00:04:54,520 --> 00:05:02,240 # And I'll trust him fearlessly 64 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:08,160 # I want him to be free. # 65 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:16,960 - Among the ancient Greeks, it was normal practice. 66 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:19,800 Socrates and Plato, the two greatest of philosophers, 67 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:21,640 were both homosexual. 68 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:23,960 So was Alexander the Great. 69 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:26,080 Julius Caesar, a woman's man, 70 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:27,720 and every man's woman. 71 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:30,360 Many of the kings of England were homosexual - 72 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:33,360 William Rufus, for instance, and Edward II, 73 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:35,600 was the most notorious example. 74 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:39,360 Perhaps the two greatest artists of all time were homosexual - 75 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:42,520 Leonardo da Vinci and Michelangelo. 76 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:46,480 At home, romantic poets like Shelley and Byron. 77 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:49,320 The biggest scandal surrounding a British homosexual 78 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:51,480 blew up round Oscar Wilde. 79 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:56,800 - "The love that dare not speak its name in this country 80 00:05:56,800 --> 00:06:01,640 "in such a great affection of an elder for a younger man, 81 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:04,960 "as there was between David and Jonathan, 82 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:09,560 "such as Plato made the very basis of his philosophy, 83 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:11,080 "and such as you will find 84 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:14,400 "in the sonnets of Michelangelo and Shakespeare. 85 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:21,000 "It is that deep, spiritual affection, 86 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:24,200 "which is as pure as it is perfect. 87 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:27,360 "It is in this century so misunderstood 88 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:32,600 "that it may be described as the love that dare not speak its name. 89 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:34,840 "And on account of it, 90 00:06:34,840 --> 00:06:37,680 "I am placed where I am now. 91 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:41,800 "It is beautiful, it is fine. 92 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:45,080 "It is the noblest form of affection." 93 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:50,960 - Are they born that way, or do they become like it? 94 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:53,240 - Well, I don't think they are born that way. 95 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:57,360 I think the damage is probably done very early in infancy, 96 00:06:57,360 --> 00:06:59,560 in some cases. Sometimes later. 97 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:02,440 The amount of sexual drive a person 98 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:06,080 has may certainly be decided partly genetically, 99 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:07,760 but not its direction. 100 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:18,880 - # We could have skipped this part 101 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:23,000 # I could have taught you how to love yourself 102 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:26,840 # I waited patiently 103 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:30,920 # I hoped that you would be the one to come to me 104 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:33,600 # I tried to talk to you 105 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:39,120 # I thought that you would recognise the need 106 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:41,840 # That you had deep inside 107 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:46,200 # But you had to get there by yourself 108 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:52,000 # I don't understand Help me, please 109 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:56,400 # Tell me everything and make me see 110 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:59,880 # You know that I would give you anything 111 00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:04,520 # I'd take away your pain Yeah, I'd take away the stain 112 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:07,480 # I don't understand Help me, please 113 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:12,360 # Tell me everything and make me see 114 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:15,720 # You know that I would give you anything 115 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:19,440 # I'd take away your pain and I'd take away the stain... # 116 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:37,320 - Because lesbians are a cross-section, 117 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:38,640 by the sheer law of averages 118 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:41,440 there are naturally many to be found in those professions 119 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:43,640 which are predominantly staffed by women, 120 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:45,160 like nursing and teaching. 121 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:48,960 Now, you're a schoolteacher and, as you must know, 122 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:50,560 a tremendous number of parents 123 00:08:50,560 --> 00:08:52,720 are really frightened at the idea that 124 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:55,600 their daughter might be taught by a lesbian teacher. 125 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:57,120 What's your comment on that? 126 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:01,080 - Well, I suppose there is a danger, in some cases. 127 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:02,600 But, um... 128 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:04,800 I mean, if there were... If there was... 129 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:07,800 If this was...really dangerous, I mean, 130 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:10,080 no man would be allowed to teach in a girl's school, 131 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:12,320 and no-one's going to suggest that. 132 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:13,520 As far as I'm concerned, 133 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:16,760 my professional life and my private life are utterly separate, 134 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:19,480 and have to be utterly separate. 135 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:22,280 - Do you feel any sexual attraction for the girls you teach? 136 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:23,560 - None at all. 137 00:09:24,560 --> 00:09:28,200 - # I don't understand Help me, please 138 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:30,920 # Tell me everything and make me see 139 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:35,720 # You know that I would give you anything 140 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:40,120 # I'd take away your pain Yeah, I'd take away the stain... # 141 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:42,640 - Recently I-I've seen some children - 142 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:44,520 very young children, three and four... 143 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:47,880 ..even people I work with, 144 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:50,600 remark that, there's no question about it, 145 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:53,560 these children will grow up to be homosexual. 146 00:09:53,560 --> 00:09:56,480 They're very sensitive, soft, warm, 147 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:58,040 gentle children, 148 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:00,560 in comparison to other children, perhaps, of the same age, 149 00:10:00,560 --> 00:10:03,040 who are brisk and rough and tumble. 150 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:07,960 One felt that there was something there that... 151 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:09,400 was sympathetic. 152 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:17,880 - # Help me, please 153 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:26,440 # Why don't you come to me? # 154 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:28,320 - Once a girl is lesbian, 155 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:30,600 can anything be done to change that? 156 00:10:31,560 --> 00:10:34,160 - I think so, if she's still fairly young... 157 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:39,320 ..and she's dissatisfied herself with her way of life. 158 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:44,680 This depends terribly on how early the damage was done, 159 00:10:44,680 --> 00:10:45,880 how deep it goes... 160 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:53,440 ..and basically, again, I suppose on her own feelings about it. 161 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:55,600 - # I would give you anything 162 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:59,600 # I'd take away your pain Yeah, I'd take away the stain 163 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:03,840 # I don't understand Help me, please 164 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:08,000 # Tell me everything and make me see 165 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:11,560 # You know that I would give you anything 166 00:11:11,560 --> 00:11:15,640 # I'd take away your pain, yeah, I'd take away the stain. # 167 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:22,360 - UPBEAT JAZZ MUSIC 168 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:58,720 - You could talk to him. - It's not a mother's job. 169 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:00,400 - He's always been a mother's boy. 170 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:02,640 - He never once forgot Mother's Day. 171 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:05,240 - You know, I don't remember him bringing a single girl home 172 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:06,680 all the time I've known him. 173 00:12:06,680 --> 00:12:08,920 - I knew there was something, 174 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:11,240 but I just couldn't put me finger on it. 175 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:13,960 - Oh, come on, now, he was going to be a bachelor, a celibate. 176 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:18,040 - Your son's not one of those, is he, Hilda? 177 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:19,600 - PHONE RINGS 178 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:21,920 - Where's, um... 179 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:23,040 Jo? 180 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:26,560 - Couldn't she come? I'd so looked forward to meeting her. 181 00:12:26,560 --> 00:12:27,720 METAL CLANGS 182 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:32,560 - I tripped over the central heating. 183 00:12:32,560 --> 00:12:35,240 I'm always falling over something. I hope I haven't wrecked it. 184 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:36,520 - MELANCHOLY TRUMPET PLAYS 185 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:41,560 - # I've felt uncomfortable 186 00:12:41,560 --> 00:12:44,560 # Since the day that I was born 187 00:12:44,560 --> 00:12:50,600 # Since the day I glimpsed the black abyss in your eyes 188 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:57,120 # There's no way you could make all of this shit up on your own 189 00:12:57,120 --> 00:13:03,720 # It could only come from the mastermind of lies... # 190 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:07,080 - My parents weren't affectionate. 191 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:09,040 I always grew up with a dislike for my father. 192 00:13:10,560 --> 00:13:12,920 Consequently, a tremendous attachment to my mother. 193 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:15,400 - You know, there's nothing wrong about that young man of mine 194 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:17,840 that a good woman won't cure. 195 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:21,800 - May the Lord be in your heart and on your lips, that you may, 196 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:24,760 with truth and humility, confess all your sins 197 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:29,320 in the name of the Father and of the Son and the Holy Ghost. 198 00:13:30,680 --> 00:13:35,680 - # I can't believe that I've considered taking my own life 199 00:13:35,680 --> 00:13:41,160 # Cos I believed the lies about me were the truth... 200 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:43,120 - I pray, Father, give me your blessing. 201 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:46,440 - # It will be magic to watch your transformation 202 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:48,960 # When you realise that you've been had 203 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:54,120 # It's enough to make a guy like me feel sad... 204 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:55,600 - Yes, Sister. 205 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:57,760 - # Cos you tell me that Jesus 206 00:13:57,760 --> 00:13:59,840 # He hates fruit loops, son 207 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:02,880 # We told you that when you were young 208 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:06,040 # Or pretty much anything you want him to 209 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:09,760 # Like sitcoms, paedophiles and kangaroos 210 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:12,720 # Morons who cut in line 211 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:15,480 # Three-bean salad and parking fines 212 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:18,880 # And when we win this war on society 213 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:24,160 # I hope your blind eyes will be opened and you'll see 214 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:32,040 # The arrogance it takes to walk around in the world the way you do 215 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:37,040 # It turns my brain to jelly every time 216 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:44,360 # The rage and fear I'm feeling have begun to make me sick 217 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:50,280 # And I think that I might be about to commit a crime 218 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:52,720 # And you tell me that Jesus 219 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:54,440 # He hates homos, son 220 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:58,320 # We told you that when you were young... # 221 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:00,000 - Men? 222 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,040 You look like a couple of queers. 223 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:05,160 - Ah, don't take any notice of what Dot said. 224 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:08,480 I tell you, she had me worried for a minute, though. 225 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:11,200 - Just because our Arthur's marriage hasn't gone right yet, 226 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:13,760 you've no call to talk about him being queer. 227 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:15,160 - It's ridiculous... 228 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:18,160 ..innit? 229 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:26,320 - No! 230 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:29,640 - Suppose there was - is that something to get at a lad for? 231 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:32,680 - Well, it's not normal, is it? 232 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:34,120 - Where you going? 233 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:37,640 - I'm going to get a refill for my lipstick. 234 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:39,200 - Pray, Father, give me your blessing. 235 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:41,240 It is three weeks since my last confession, 236 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:42,960 and I accuse myself of... 237 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:45,760 dishonouring my parents, many times. 238 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:49,560 - # Cos Jesus, he hates faggots, son 239 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:52,640 # We told you that when you were young 240 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:55,720 # Or pretty much any one you want him to 241 00:15:55,720 --> 00:16:00,240 # Like niggers, spics, redskins and kikes, men who... # 242 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:03,120 - I don't know what's the matter with you. You ain't normal. 243 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:04,840 - Aren't we getting off the subject? 244 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:06,040 - Shut up. 245 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:07,680 - # And when we win the war on society... # 246 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:09,280 - What the fuck is your problem?! 247 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:16,000 - # I hope your blind eyes will be opened and you'll see. # 248 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:17,880 - Nature would have done it, 249 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:20,160 and a father should help and protect a lad like that, 250 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:23,000 not turn on him like the mob would when it sees somebody different. 251 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:28,320 - When, in the end, the penny dropped, how did you react? 252 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:31,160 - With relief more than anything. 253 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:33,640 Relief at knowing... 254 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:35,600 At being certain, at last, 255 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:37,800 what I was, and how I fitted in. 256 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:41,840 I think uncertainty, not knowing what you are, 257 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:43,880 not knowing how you fit into society, 258 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:45,600 this is the worst thing of all. 259 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:47,600 - REPORTER: The mother of one of the lesbians 260 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:49,280 who has appeared in this programme, 261 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:52,520 told me how she discovered that her daughter was homosexual. 262 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:54,840 How did you react at the time? What did you feel? 263 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:58,720 - Oh, well at first, terrific shock. 264 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:02,920 And...fear, to a certain extent. 265 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:07,520 Not for ourselves, and not for what people would think, really, 266 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:11,480 but fear for her, what she'd have to face in her future life. 267 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:14,320 I think that was the worst part about it. 268 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:19,440 - A minority of lesbians can be recognised as such. 269 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:22,040 This 19-year-old girl has worn nothing but boys' clothes 270 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:23,480 for some years. 271 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:25,000 - Well... 272 00:17:26,360 --> 00:17:29,400 ..I was brought up with boys - I've got no sisters. 273 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:31,160 I think I was more or less a tomboy 274 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:34,120 from the start, from a very early age. 275 00:17:34,120 --> 00:17:35,960 - How do the shop assistants react 276 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:38,080 when you walk in to buy men's clothes? 277 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:41,280 - Well, nine times out of ten, they don't know that I'm a girl. 278 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:44,480 But there is the odd occasion where I've gone into a shop 279 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:46,680 and they've said, you know, "Yes, sir?" 280 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:50,200 And then somebody's said, "Is that a girl?" 281 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:51,920 - Good morning, sir. 282 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:53,760 Oh, good morning, miss. 283 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:55,680 - Good morning. A red rose, please. 284 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:58,240 - There. 285 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:00,360 - Thank you. - Thanks. 286 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:05,040 - Oh, good morning, Kate. - Good morning, sir. 287 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:07,440 - Could I have a buttonhole? - Well, I haven't got any... 288 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:08,920 A few violets? 289 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:11,480 - Oh, that'll do nicely. Do you mind if I pay you on Saturday? 290 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:12,760 - HE GIGGLES 291 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:15,960 - Strewth. 292 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:17,880 What do you make of that, Sam? 293 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:20,520 - Well, boys will be girls, and girls will be boys! 294 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:32,840 - # Stranger 295 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:37,760 # When you look at me 296 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:43,240 # Eyes strong as steel 297 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:46,000 # Light as day 298 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:51,400 # Born a mystery 299 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:56,440 # You're the in-between 300 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:00,200 # Boy or girl 301 00:19:01,360 --> 00:19:05,440 # Ooh-ooh ooh-ooh 302 00:19:08,120 --> 00:19:10,760 # Wilder 303 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:15,400 # Than I've known before 304 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:20,920 # Fire rushes through 305 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:23,920 # Every vein 306 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:29,760 # With a smile that sings 307 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:35,200 # You'll be killing me 308 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:38,040 # Tenderly 309 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:43,000 # Ooh-ooh ooh-ooh 310 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:48,920 # Ooh-ooh ooh-ooh ooh 311 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:52,520 # Ooh-ooh ooh-ooh 312 00:19:55,640 --> 00:20:00,320 # Every word 313 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:03,800 # Is soft as fur 314 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:07,360 # I'm drifting deeper... # 315 00:20:07,360 --> 00:20:09,240 - Yes? 316 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:12,200 - Get in there. Come on, move! 317 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:14,520 Crisp, sir. - Sit down. 318 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:21,040 Your hair's dyed. 319 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:23,120 - Yes, sir. 320 00:20:23,120 --> 00:20:27,640 - A man dyeing his hair is a sign of sexual perversion. 321 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:31,120 - # Ooh-ooh ooh 322 00:20:31,120 --> 00:20:36,760 # Stranger, will you remember? 323 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:40,920 # Stranger, make me 324 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:43,640 # Remember you... # 325 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:45,520 - I am Doctor Crow. 326 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:46,800 You are surprised? 327 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:48,560 - Yes, I am! 328 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:50,200 I expected you to be a man. 329 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:51,440 Or a woman. 330 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:53,200 - I am both, 331 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:55,760 with the combined mental and physical endowments 332 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:57,720 of both man and woman. 333 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:00,520 - You must have great difficulty with your clothes. 334 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:02,720 - Do you read your Bible? 335 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:04,600 - Not constantly. 336 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:06,880 - "Male and female created he them." 337 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:14,160 - Male and female created he me. 338 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:15,800 - Steve Rogers and her girlfriend 339 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,200 don't often walk down the street for pleasure. 340 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:20,200 There's too much risk involved. 341 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:24,480 Risk of public mockery, undisguised amazement, crude jokes. 342 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:28,080 Many lesbians, of course, aren't so aggressively masculine as Steve, 343 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:30,000 and for them, it's not so bad. 344 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:31,760 But for Steve, who's 24, 345 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:35,280 and whose whole instinct cries out to her to feel and act like a man, 346 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:38,160 her appearance makes her constantly vulnerable. 347 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:40,640 - When I was 15, no, 16, sorry, 348 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:44,040 I met this girl and, um... 349 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:46,720 I was with her for six months, and I got engaged to her. 350 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:48,520 I really forgot that I was a woman. 351 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:53,120 And she thought she was pregnant. 352 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:57,800 Because there's some things that a lesbian can use, 353 00:21:57,800 --> 00:21:59,840 and I got away with using one of those. 354 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:02,840 - And she never discovered...? - And she didn't know the difference, no. 355 00:22:04,360 --> 00:22:07,880 The next thing I know, her mother kept on about us getting married. 356 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:10,360 So I thought, "Oh, I better get out of it," 357 00:22:10,360 --> 00:22:12,440 you know, cos I knew I couldn't get married to her. 358 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:15,000 And... So then I hopped it, 359 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,240 and the next thing I know, the police are after me. 360 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,000 The girl thinks she's pregnant 361 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:22,160 and they're taking me to court for breach of promise and that. 362 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:25,960 They took me to court, and then it all came out, that I was a girl. 363 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:29,480 - No cure has yet been found for the homosexual condition. 364 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:31,280 Perhaps none ever will. 365 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:32,520 But I asked homosexuals 366 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,200 if they would still choose to remain homosexuals, 367 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:37,440 if they had the opportunity to change. 368 00:22:39,120 --> 00:22:44,160 - No. The society being what it is, I would be heterosexual. 369 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:47,080 - If you could live life all over again and could choose, 370 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:48,720 would you choose to be a homosexual? 371 00:22:50,120 --> 00:22:52,920 - Not unless it was thrust upon me, as it has been... 372 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:58,920 ..by the fact that I am, and there's nothing I can do about it, 373 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:01,880 heaven knows I've tried. Erm... 374 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:07,720 No, there's absolutely no advantage in being a homosexual 375 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,280 in a heterosexual world, obviously. 376 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,200 And there's no happiness, really. 377 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:18,400 - # You just want to live your life 378 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:22,120 # The best way you know how 379 00:23:22,120 --> 00:23:25,640 # But they keep on telling you 380 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:29,960 # That you are not allowed 381 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,200 # They say you are sick 382 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:37,200 # That you should hang your head in shame 383 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,920 # They are pointing fingers 384 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:44,440 # And want you to take the blame... # 385 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:46,760 - A brain specialist? - Psychiatrist. 386 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:49,200 - I thought as much. 387 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:52,160 You want to psychoanalyse me, don't you? 388 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,760 You want to look inside my brain and see how the wheels go around. 389 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:56,080 - Now, wait a moment, Frere... 390 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:57,920 - Dissect me like a guinea pig. 391 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,160 Then show me off to your distinguished colleagues 392 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,040 as an interesting case. 393 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:03,760 That's it, isn't it? 394 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,960 - Hardly, but it's possible that I may be able to help you. 395 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,800 - Perhaps you'll have a case history that'll make your complexes stand 396 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,560 on end, and you can write a big, fat book all about it, eh? 397 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:13,920 - HE LAUGHS MOCKINGLY 398 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:22,120 # This pain 399 00:24:22,120 --> 00:24:29,400 # It is a glacier moving through you... # 400 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:31,280 - Doctors, more than most people, 401 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:34,360 should perhaps understand what causes men to be homosexual. 402 00:24:34,360 --> 00:24:37,440 This man is a doctor, but he's also a homosexual. 403 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:40,240 - It just makes you feel, well, you'd just as well be in prison, 404 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:42,400 because it's a sort of prison anyway. 405 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:44,040 - Do you think you need help? 406 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:45,880 - Yes, I do. 407 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,280 I think everybody who's a homosexual needs help. 408 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,680 - Homosexuality is one manifestation 409 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:52,680 of a failure to fully develop. 410 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:54,560 - Does your mother know about you? 411 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:56,200 - Yeah. - What does she think? 412 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:59,000 - She just thinks it's disgusting, she can't accept it. 413 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:05,440 - # Don't you become paralysed with fear 414 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:11,800 # When things seem particularly rough... # 415 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,000 - Did you find it very hard to come to terms with the fact 416 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:18,520 that you are homosexual? 417 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:23,240 - Yes. From when I was about 16 till about... 418 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,720 ..20, 22 or 23. 419 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:33,480 The whole of that time, it was associated in my mind with guilt, 420 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,120 sordid matters... 421 00:25:37,120 --> 00:25:39,040 ..elderly, unpleasant men. 422 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:49,800 - # Don't you pay them fuckers as they say no never mind 423 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:53,640 # They don't give two shits about you 424 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:57,200 # It's the blind leading the blind 425 00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:04,480 # What they want is commonly referred to as theocracy 426 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,520 # And what that boils down to 427 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:12,000 # Is referred to as hypocrisy 428 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:15,600 # Don't listen to anyone 429 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:19,560 # Get answers on your own 430 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:23,160 # Even if it means that sometimes 431 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:26,560 # You feel quite alone 432 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:34,040 # No-one on this planet can tell you what to believe 433 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:37,920 # People like to talk a lot 434 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:42,200 # And they like to deceive... # 435 00:26:43,360 --> 00:26:45,840 - Did you ever go to your family at Christmas? 436 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,000 - I haven't got any family, dear. 437 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,480 I never got on with them anyway. 438 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,000 I did have a friend. 439 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:56,720 - # A glacier moving through you 440 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:00,400 # And carving out deep valleys... # 441 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,000 - We lived together for years. 442 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:09,360 - # And creating spectacular landscapes... # 443 00:27:09,360 --> 00:27:11,080 - A real love match it was, you know? 444 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,120 Well, I've never wanted anything since. 445 00:27:15,120 --> 00:27:17,320 - # And nourishing the ground 446 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,680 # With precious minerals 447 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:25,840 # And other stuff 448 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:32,520 # So don't you become paralysed with fear 449 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:38,760 # When things seem particularly rough 450 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,800 # O-o-oh 451 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:48,600 # This pain 452 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:55,600 # It is a glacier moving through you 453 00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:02,080 # And carving out deep valleys 454 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:09,480 # And creating spectacular landscapes 455 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:16,400 # And nourishing the ground 456 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,960 # With precious minerals 457 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:26,320 # And other stuff 458 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:31,560 # So, don't you become paralysed with fear 459 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:38,600 # When things seem particularly rough. # 460 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:42,320 - I think one of the barriers to public acceptance for you 461 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,080 is that normal people, or most normal people, 462 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:48,240 find what you physically do disgusting. 463 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:53,120 - Well, personally I find that 464 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:58,200 what a normal heterosexual couple do is just the same to me. 465 00:28:58,200 --> 00:28:59,360 I find it... 466 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:02,800 Well, I won't say disgusting, but unnatural and repulsive. 467 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:05,240 - Sorry for them? 468 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,400 Not me. It's always excuses. 469 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,000 Every newspaper you pick up, it's excuses. 470 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:13,120 Environment, too much love as kids, too little love as kids, 471 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:14,520 they can't help it. 472 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,800 - We are in danger of permanently damaging our social fabric. 473 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:21,400 This is dealing with a twilight area of abnormal people. 474 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:25,240 - What is lesbianism, what causes it, can it be cured? 475 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:26,600 - I wish I was normal. 476 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:27,920 - I want to be cured. 477 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,160 - Would you like to be cured? - No. 478 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:50,200 - Why not? - I'm perfectly happy the way I am. 479 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,200 I have no desire to be heterosexual. 480 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:56,320 I don't see any advantages in being heterosexual. 481 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:02,840 Except for the fact that one might have police protection, but... 482 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,320 No, no, I have no desire to change. 483 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:07,840 Even if I could. 484 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,560 - Can you tell by looking at a woman whether she's lesbian or not? 485 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,320 - Not at all. - You think that's a complete myth? 486 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:20,120 - An absolute myth, because I've been looking out hard enough. 487 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:25,080 For years and years and years, I've fallen in love with... 488 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,400 ..various women. 489 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:33,320 But they've never reciprocated my feeling, 490 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:38,120 not until I was 36 did anyone reciprocate my feeling. 491 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:47,960 And I used to fall in love and then feel quite happy about it at first, 492 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,000 and I thought, "Oh, but it's hopeless, 493 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:55,000 "you won't reciprocate my feeling," and I was right, she didn't. 494 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:59,480 I very often remained friendly with that person, but, of course, 495 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,400 I was very disappointed. 496 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:05,000 - Most homosexuals dread getting old, dread losing their looks, 497 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,440 fear in particular the final loneliness 498 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,360 of living without a companion. 499 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:10,800 Like men needing wives, 500 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,400 they search for someone with whom they can establish a lasting 501 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:17,520 relationship, which includes warmth and protection, as well as sex. 502 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:21,320 These two have done that, have lived together for 26 years. 503 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:24,600 They might almost be a married couple, but they're still queer. 504 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,120 Have they been happy? 505 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:32,080 - Compared with a lot of married couples, 506 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,800 reasonably, yes, reasonably happy. 507 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,480 - After all, everywhere around 508 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,280 everything is made for married people, 509 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:40,720 it's not made for people like us. 510 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:43,880 Things are awkward, aren't they? 511 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:48,320 - A comfortable house in Wandsworth indistinguishable from thousands of 512 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,320 homes owned by married couples. 513 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,360 It's where a lesbian couple have lived for four years - 514 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,000 a domestic life which began as conventionally 515 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:59,040 as any normal married couple when they fell in love. 516 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,480 Homosexual practices may not be approved of, 517 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,160 homosexual love cannot be denied. 518 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:07,040 - The feeling of being in love, I'm sure it's exactly the same 519 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:08,920 for men and for women. 520 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:12,880 The feeling of deep emotion towards someone. And... 521 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:14,760 With me, it happened quite suddenly. 522 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,600 I had, in fact, only known Julie a few days. 523 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:40,320 - # My love is the rarest jewel 524 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:45,400 # And he grounds me with his love 525 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:51,480 # My love, he is rich like caramel 526 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,840 # And he moves me from above 527 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:58,600 # He sees me with tiger eyes 528 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:03,560 # And that's where I make my home 529 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:07,280 # His heart is a shield 530 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:13,120 # Which protects me from the vilest foe 531 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:16,800 # His smile's an elixir 532 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:22,280 # Which heals the wounds of my darkest years 533 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:25,760 # When my love is quiet 534 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:27,760 # I consider him 535 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:34,880 # And he drives away my fears 536 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:39,160 # My love he reveals himself 537 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:43,960 # With tenderness and grace 538 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:48,240 # My love has constructed with his arms 539 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:53,680 # For me the safest place 540 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:57,960 # His laughter destroys my doubts 541 00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:02,040 # And lifts me up so high 542 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:06,480 # His voice it is soothing 543 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:12,000 # Like a warm breeze on a summer night 544 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:15,480 # When he envelops me 545 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,440 # I give myself to him 546 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:23,920 # And my soul takes flight... # 547 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:27,400 - Most homosexual partnerships are not so lasting. 548 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,400 This young waiter talked about the break-up of his. 549 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:35,040 - Initially, I think one of the main reasons why it started to break up 550 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,360 was because we were very young when we came together. 551 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,160 We were both 19. 552 00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:42,680 He was much more a man about town, 553 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:44,560 much more worldly than I was, 554 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,920 and I looked to him for a great deal of protection, 555 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:51,400 and as the years went by and I began to develop, 556 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,760 I became more and more independent of him. 557 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,160 But I certainly didn't love him any the less 558 00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,160 than what I did from the beginning. 559 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,640 But I think that he resented the fact that 560 00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:05,520 I was no longer dependent on him for anything. 561 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:09,600 And this was the cancer that started in our relationship, 562 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:11,880 and eventually made it break. 563 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:16,120 - # Horrifying as it was for me 564 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:19,320 # To see your face today 565 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,200 # I guess I knew that it would happen 566 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,840 # At some point 567 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:29,360 # And I dreaded it because I knew... # 568 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,440 - How I ever came to think you were so marvellous... 569 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,680 - Bertie, for God's sake, go away! 570 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:36,720 - I have two children. 571 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:40,960 I didn't want to hurt you. 572 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,920 - # So you observe the strict rules 573 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:47,280 # Laid out in the books of etiquette... # 574 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:49,040 - Please! 575 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:52,080 - # And tell me you hope I enjoy my stay... # 576 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,040 - Happy, are you? Happy? 577 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,000 I despise you! 578 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:59,800 - I disgust you, I know, because you disgust me. 579 00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:03,120 When slaves love each other, it's not love. 580 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,600 - I'm not married to you, George. 581 00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:09,040 - Don't like that. 582 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:10,760 Stay with me. 583 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,280 You're the only one left. 584 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,120 - # You know, I hate this fucking town 585 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,560 # You cannot even leave your fucking house... 586 00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:18,840 - Come back! 587 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:22,400 - # Without running into someone who no longer cares about you... 588 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,000 - No, don't turn away from me. Take me in your arms. 589 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:26,960 Oh! 590 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:28,880 - # Somebody who you desperately want to see... 591 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:30,120 - Oh! 592 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:33,760 - # But you know it's only going to cause more grief 593 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:37,120 # Cos there is nothing left to say 594 00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:40,680 # And he can't hear you anyway... # 595 00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:42,200 - I'm making a real effort. 596 00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:50,040 What am I supposed to do? 597 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,240 - Deacon is here to look after you. 598 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:56,720 Your chaperone. 599 00:36:56,720 --> 00:36:58,000 Keep you out of my hair. 600 00:36:58,000 --> 00:36:59,440 - Yeah, if he can stand up. 601 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,800 - Look, calm down, George, or take another pill. 602 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:06,200 - # I really want to hate you but my intellect reminds me... 603 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:07,760 - I love you, Francis. 604 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:12,840 - # ..that that doesn't make no sense 605 00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:16,720 # And I want to be your friend 606 00:37:16,720 --> 00:37:19,800 # But I couldn't pull it off in the end 607 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:23,320 # And I'm disappointed with myself 608 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:27,400 # Cos I thought I killed you 609 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:31,080 # But then again you always made it clear 610 00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:34,040 # That you do not care either way 611 00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:41,280 # Which begs the question - how can I still claim to love you? 612 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:48,200 # You told me time and time again that you don't lose, you always win 613 00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:51,520 # And that to make an effort 614 00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:59,240 # Would just be beneath you 615 00:37:59,240 --> 00:38:02,400 # You know, I hate this fucking town 616 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:05,720 # You cannot even leave your fucking house 617 00:38:05,720 --> 00:38:13,200 # Without running into someone who no longer cares about you 618 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:16,360 # Somebody who you desperately want to see 619 00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:20,440 # But you know it's only going to cause more grief 620 00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:24,480 # Cos there is nothing left to say 621 00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:30,600 # And he can't hear you anyway. # 622 00:38:49,240 --> 00:38:53,520 - Stop now. - I can't stop. I love you too much to stop. 623 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:57,000 I thought you loved me. If you do, what do you feel for him? 624 00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,040 I have a right to know. 625 00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,680 - All right, you want to know, I shall tell you. 626 00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:03,800 You won't be content until you know, will you? 627 00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,120 Till you've ripped it out of me! 628 00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:10,160 I stopped seeing him because I wanted him. Do you understand? 629 00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:11,760 Because I wanted him! 630 00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:17,040 - Men who choose to love other men are treated not only with intolerance 631 00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:20,200 and contempt, but prosecuted and jailed. As a result, 632 00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:24,640 they become vulnerable to violence, blackmail, and persecution. 633 00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:27,320 Parliament has been asked to consider a private member's bill 634 00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:30,640 to remove that constant threat by legalising homosexual acts 635 00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:34,720 between consenting adults in private. But a change in the law 636 00:39:34,720 --> 00:39:38,080 doesn't guarantee a change in attitude by the rest of us. 637 00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:41,720 For many of us, this is revolting - men dancing with men. 638 00:39:41,720 --> 00:39:45,440 Homosexuals in this country today break the law. 639 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:51,480 - I'd been to a party at one of the embassies, and I'd been to the house 640 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:54,920 to vote, and then on my way home, I thought, 641 00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:59,720 "Well, I might take a little exercise," and I went into the park, 642 00:39:59,720 --> 00:40:02,920 and I met a young guardsman 643 00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:08,240 and he went with me and, er, we went into the darkness of the trees... 644 00:40:08,240 --> 00:40:11,440 - I went into this toilet, and... 645 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:15,560 I suppose two or three times in the course of an afternoon, 646 00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:19,840 and I came out and somebody, a young person, 647 00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:23,160 said that they were arresting me for importuning. 648 00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:28,760 - # Stockholm is a place that I adore 649 00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:38,160 # But the syndrome by that name is one that I abhor 650 00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:43,800 # Patty Hearst cannot compete with me 651 00:40:46,240 --> 00:40:50,120 # I bet she thinks she can 652 00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:52,440 # I'll prove her wrong 653 00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:58,920 # At tea for free 654 00:41:00,720 --> 00:41:04,280 # Words don't mean anything to you... # 655 00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:05,920 - You're a pansy, aren't you? 656 00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:07,440 - Pansy? 657 00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:15,520 - # Emotions turn right into lies like black turns into blue 658 00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:19,640 # Because the fear has made you blind... # 659 00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:22,960 - What's that, apart from being a flower? 660 00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:28,920 - So, they took me to some police station, took my fingerprints. 661 00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:33,720 - I was beaten up in a public lavatory and left lying on the floor. 662 00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:38,560 It was all rather messy and rather nasty, I'm afraid. 663 00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:41,960 - # No more tangles 664 00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:45,760 # No more tears 665 00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:48,520 # No more reindeer games 666 00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:54,240 # With narcissistic queers 667 00:41:55,640 --> 00:42:00,640 # Or any other such type of human being... # 668 00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:02,760 - I was beaten up in a public lavatory 669 00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:06,800 by a man who in fact made advances to me first of all. 670 00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:14,200 Erm, and when I reciprocated, he waited outside and beat me up. 671 00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,160 And, of course, I couldn't do anything, 672 00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:19,600 I couldn't call the police. 673 00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:25,320 - Unfortunately, we were discovered by the police 674 00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:29,640 and one of the park keepers, and I was then arrested. 675 00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:33,880 - And I was in the cell from Saturday afternoon until Monday morning. 676 00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:36,440 I never slept, just sat and cried. 677 00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:39,240 - I'd only accept this brief, Mr Wilde, if you assure me, 678 00:42:39,240 --> 00:42:41,640 on your honour as an English gentleman, 679 00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,240 that there is no truth in the charges made against you. 680 00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:48,480 - Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, 681 00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:51,680 it is indeed a sad and sickening sight... 682 00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:55,200 - # Answers to questions... # 683 00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:58,800 - I assure you as an Irish gentleman there is no truth whatever 684 00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:00,240 in any of it. 685 00:43:00,240 --> 00:43:04,000 - The judge said afterwards, it always astounded him 686 00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:10,240 that in this type of case, all these homosexuals could produce 687 00:43:10,240 --> 00:43:14,720 witnesses who would swear they were of good character and so on. 688 00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:20,480 Why on earth shouldn't a homosexual be a good character? 689 00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:25,800 - # You spend your days tied up in knots... 690 00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,720 - I want my phone call, my phone call, my phone call! 691 00:43:28,720 --> 00:43:35,400 - # You know how to tie them in your flesh and in your thoughts... # 692 00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:39,880 - The Earl of Dudley in the House of Lords last year gave as his opinion 693 00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:44,120 that prison was too good for all homosexuals. 694 00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:52,120 - # Tell me, how does one learn that at your age so that it sticks? # 695 00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:05,720 - It is really hell for a person, 696 00:44:05,720 --> 00:44:08,800 and you get that you feel you want to jump off a bridge, 697 00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,280 you don't know what to do, you walk the streets, 698 00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:14,760 and you don't know a single person to talk to. 699 00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:21,240 Nowadays, I imagine you could find out information somewhere or other, 700 00:44:21,240 --> 00:44:24,520 but you couldn't then, before the war, 701 00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:26,320 it was all hush-hush. 702 00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:37,800 - # No more angles, no more dumbing it down 703 00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:41,240 # Gee, your hair smells perfect 704 00:44:41,240 --> 00:44:47,520 # But I cannot stand to have you around 705 00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:52,600 # Not now 706 00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:59,360 # Or any other time. # 707 00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:11,880 - Sorry I'm late, Sergeant, but I just couldn't leave home without bringing 708 00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:15,240 something bright and gay for the poor indisposed constables, 709 00:45:15,240 --> 00:45:17,800 and here we are, with my love. 710 00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:21,880 Oh, what have I said? With my very best floral greetings. 711 00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:27,120 - "I am the love that dare not speak its name." 712 00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:29,960 Do you see in that any improper suggestion? 713 00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:32,120 - No, nothing whatsoever. 714 00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:36,400 Anything is good that incites thoughts in whatever age? 715 00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:38,840 - Whether moral or immoral. 716 00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:44,560 - I think that the realisation of oneself is the prime aim of life, 717 00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:47,920 and that to realise oneself completely through pleasure is finer 718 00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,480 than to do so through pain. 719 00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:53,160 - Enlightenment does not produce tolerance. 720 00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:56,600 Tolerance is the result of boredom. 721 00:45:56,600 --> 00:46:00,840 The facts have to be repeated over and over and over, and in the end, 722 00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:03,160 people say, "All right, so you're queer, 723 00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:06,880 "just talk about something else." And then the work is done. 724 00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:08,440 And this is the work, of course, 725 00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:11,960 of time, not of people, and not of legislation. 726 00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:14,520 Legislation makes almost no difference. 727 00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:16,640 It is the result of public opinion. 728 00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:19,480 You can't really force, especially in England, 729 00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:23,200 a law upon a people who is totally against it, 730 00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:25,440 because they will get round it. 731 00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:29,200 The more laws, you have the more fixers and the more snoopers. 732 00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:42,840 - The swashbuckling approach, the heartiness, the thumping stride, 733 00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:44,400 the tough man's clothes - 734 00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:47,720 these things are natural to some lesbians, but mostly unacceptable 735 00:46:47,720 --> 00:46:50,120 to people outside that world. 736 00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:52,880 This means that for lesbians who want to relax in the kind of clothes 737 00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:56,680 and the kind of way that make them happy, there are few places to go. 738 00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:59,560 One of them is a club in Chelsea, a place where there is no longer 739 00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:03,840 any need to pretend. There they can dance, drink, flirt, make friends, 740 00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:07,560 discuss their problem with others who will understand. 741 00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:11,600 - Normal people often say that they find the idea of physical sex 742 00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:15,600 between two women disgusting. What do you say to that? 743 00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:18,120 - I regard sex as an expression of love. 744 00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:20,360 If you love someone, I think it's... 745 00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:23,520 Well, I think quite honestly it's cruel to withhold sex from them 746 00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:27,440 if this is what they and you want from the relationship. 747 00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:31,480 I think it is as cruel as it would be in a normal marriage. 748 00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:33,480 - What do lesbians actually do? 749 00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:37,080 - Allowing for the anatomical differences, 750 00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:39,880 the same sort of things as any normal couple do, 751 00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:43,560 with all the variations which normal couples indulge in. 752 00:47:56,680 --> 00:48:03,600 - # Dial up my number now 753 00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:10,440 # Weaving it through the wire 754 00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:13,520 # Switch me on 755 00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:15,800 # Turn me up 756 00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:23,560 # Don't want it Baudelaire, just glitter lust 757 00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:26,720 # Switch me on 758 00:48:26,720 --> 00:48:29,920 # Turn me up 759 00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:36,120 # I want to touch you, you're just made for love 760 00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:48,840 # I need la la la la la la, I need ooh la la la la 761 00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:59,680 # Coils up and round me 762 00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:06,600 # Teasing your poetry 763 00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:09,760 # Switch me on 764 00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:13,360 # Turn me up 765 00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:18,760 # Oh, child of Venus, you're just made for love 766 00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:45,360 # I need la la la la la la, I need ooh la la la la 767 00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:03,120 # You know, I walk for days 768 00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:06,440 # I wanna waste some time 769 00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:09,640 # You wanna be so mean 770 00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:13,040 # You know I love to watch 771 00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:16,440 # I wanna love some more 772 00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:19,680 # It'll never be the same 773 00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:23,000 # A broken heel like a heart 774 00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:26,080 # I'll never walk again 775 00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:32,640 # Yeah! 776 00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:59,040 # I need la la la la la la, I need ooh la la la la 777 00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:06,280 # I need la la la la la la, I need ooh la la la la. # 778 00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:09,040 - With two men, it's much easier. 779 00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:13,480 A bit quick, sometimes it may all happen in half an hour, 780 00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:16,680 and you may not even have spoken. 781 00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:19,760 - But don't the anatomical differences between men and women mean that 782 00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:22,640 the sexual relationship can't be the same? 783 00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:24,320 - No, they make very little difference. 784 00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:30,040 It's the person that matters, and not the sex. 785 00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:31,960 - Would you say you were promiscuous? 786 00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:33,320 - I am, yes. 787 00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:37,480 - Why? 788 00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:40,400 - Because I keep searching for someone to fall in love with. 789 00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:45,200 And when I don't find it in one person, I move on. 790 00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:58,320 - How long does it take? - Give it ten days, then ring through. 791 00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:02,600 - Ten days? 792 00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:04,920 It's a long time to keep your fingers crossed. 793 00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:10,720 - # I woke up today, it was very strange 794 00:52:10,720 --> 00:52:17,800 # I couldn't feel my skin, and there was evil in my bones... # 795 00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:23,240 - Tonight, TVI talks to those with the killer disease AIDS. 796 00:52:23,240 --> 00:52:27,000 One of the victims is in hospital, the other is at home. 797 00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:29,480 Both are in their mid-30s and homosexual. 798 00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:34,800 They tell what it's like learning to live under sentence of death, 799 00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:37,800 and ask, will society learn to live with them too? 800 00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:41,240 - # And I feel just like Sigourney Weaver 801 00:52:41,240 --> 00:52:48,320 # When she had to kill those aliens... # 802 00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:54,440 - The history of AIDS in Britain is short but dramatic. 803 00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:56,960 The first death was recorded in 1982, 804 00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:59,440 when the word AIDS was hardly known, 805 00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:02,240 it was simply a mystery killer disease. 806 00:53:02,240 --> 00:53:04,120 But then the death toll grew, 807 00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:08,120 not fast by the standards of many other diseases, but fast enough. 808 00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:12,840 Until today, there have been 58 deaths, and alongside it, the panic. 809 00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:14,840 A fear that anybody could catch it. 810 00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:17,960 All that doctors can do 811 00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:21,160 is to stop each new problem being the fatal one. 812 00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:25,360 - # The sky was black and filled with tiny silver holes 813 00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:28,520 # And it was there with a frightened voice 814 00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:33,640 # That I began to cry out loud 815 00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:40,120 # I feel just like Winona Ryder 816 00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:48,240 # In that movie about vampires 817 00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:56,680 # And she couldn't get that accent right 818 00:53:56,680 --> 00:54:01,440 # And neither could that other guy... # 819 00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:06,000 - Are there potentially others than your lover who could be at risk? 820 00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:09,240 - Oh, I feel sure that there could be. 821 00:54:09,240 --> 00:54:12,720 "I don't know," would be the answer to that question. 822 00:54:12,720 --> 00:54:20,400 If, as I understand it, the disease can stay in the body and 823 00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:23,960 not manifest itself in any illness for as long as four years, 824 00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:28,480 as I understand it, then obviously that's the truth, yes. 825 00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:34,320 - Many others? - Yes, I've always been a relatively well-adjusted gay. 826 00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:41,760 - # I feel just like I am on Jupiter 827 00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:49,160 # One that looks like rainbow sherbet 828 00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:56,400 # But it doesn't lend itself to life 829 00:54:56,400 --> 00:55:01,960 # And I haven't finished yet. # 830 00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:10,440 - What are you ashamed of in Britain today? 831 00:55:11,720 --> 00:55:15,080 - Talking as a Londoner, I think in London itself, the amount of, 832 00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:17,960 or how rife homosexuality has become. 833 00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:19,720 - It still... As you say, it's worse? 834 00:55:19,720 --> 00:55:22,280 - I think in actual fact it has become worse over a period of time, 835 00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:24,480 but it's one of those things that you have to live with. 836 00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:26,200 - Yes, I suppose so. 837 00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:32,080 - All right, those at the back, settle down. 838 00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:34,480 Will you keep quiet? 839 00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:37,200 - Sir? - If you have any questions, put your hands up. 840 00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:39,120 - Sir? - Yes, Christopher? 841 00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:40,400 - Is it true that you're bent? 842 00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:48,600 - Do you mind repeating the question, Christopher? 843 00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:50,480 - Is it true that you're a queer? 844 00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:53,760 - CHILDREN JEER 845 00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:56,480 - There's been a rumour going around the school that you're a queer. 846 00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:58,040 - Come on, admit it. 847 00:55:58,040 --> 00:55:59,280 - Yes, it's true. 848 00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:01,320 - CHILDREN JEER 849 00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:06,560 - All right, now you know, get on with the work. 850 00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:09,360 The question arose, and I discussed it. 851 00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:10,800 I answered their questions. 852 00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:13,520 - Yes, but you must be more careful about this, Jeff. 853 00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:16,560 - # What you got is a black belt in BS 854 00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:21,000 # But you can't hawk your pretty wares up in here any more 855 00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:24,720 # Hit your head on the playground at recess 856 00:56:24,720 --> 00:56:28,960 # Etch-a-sketch your way out of this one, reject! # 857 00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:31,960 - They were asking me the usual stupid questions that children of that age 858 00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:34,400 do ask, because they don't know anything about the subject, 859 00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:35,760 they're not taught it anywhere, 860 00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:37,720 they certainly aren't taught it in this school. 861 00:56:37,720 --> 00:56:39,840 - Yes, yes, yes, but... 862 00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:47,480 - In Trafalgar Square today, over 3,000 people listened to speakers 863 00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:50,680 demanding changes in the law relating to the age of consent 864 00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:53,960 for homosexuals. The speakers were urging 865 00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:59,360 a reduction from the age of 21 to 16 for homosexuals. 866 00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:07,160 - According to the law, young gay men don't exist. 867 00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:14,120 If you're 16, 17, 18, 19, or 20 and gay, then you're not here. 868 00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:18,760 Well, I'm here, and we're here and we will not be quiet 869 00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:21,520 until we get equality. 870 00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:24,320 - What my honourable friend is seeking to do is to get this house 871 00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:28,440 to vote to legalise the buggery of adolescent males. 872 00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:30,800 Does she really think that that's what our constituents 873 00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:32,840 have sent us here to do? - No. 874 00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:36,480 - # What you got is a black belt in BS 875 00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:39,280 # But you can't hawk your pretty wares up in here any more 876 00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:44,400 # Hit your head on the playground at recess 877 00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:48,720 # Etch-a-sketch your way out of this one, reject! # 878 00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:53,120 - How can we advise young gay men about the dangers of AIDS when what 879 00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:57,160 they're doing is supposed to be strictly against the law? 880 00:57:57,160 --> 00:58:03,000 - Heterosexual activity is normal, and homosexual activity, 881 00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:07,800 putting your penis into another man's arsehole, is a perversion. 882 00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:12,520 - Order, order, order. We can well do without talk like that. 883 00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:18,160 The ayes to the right were 280, 884 00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:22,880 the noes to the left were 307, so the noes have it. 885 00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:28,920 - 16... It's not 16. 16 has lost. - How do you know? 886 00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:31,080 - They've just had the vote, the vote's just happened, 887 00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:36,600 16 has not happened. They're going to now vote on 18. We've lost 16! 888 00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:39,680 - How much have you lost by? - 27 votes. 889 00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:41,240 Bastards! 890 00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:57,440 - People who don't know anything about our lives, 891 00:58:57,440 --> 00:58:59,280 don't know anything about being gay, 892 00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:01,920 are telling us how to live and who we have the right to sleep with, 893 00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:05,120 and we're just really fed up with it, you know. We've been waiting 894 00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:08,080 and waiting for change, and still it's thrown back in our face again. 895 00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:11,760 We're still not treated as if we're equals, still being devalued. 896 00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:15,160 Everybody's just furious, and it's not surprising, is it, really? 897 00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:22,640 - 16 now! 16 now! 16 now! 16 now! 16 now! 16 now! 16 now! 16 now! 898 00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:27,280 - If everybody was a lesbian, if everybody was homosexual, 899 00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:29,120 I mean, the whole world would collapse. 900 00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:32,960 I mean, the human race would die out in a matter of a few generations. 901 00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:36,000 I mean, one of the sort of definitions of a living organism 902 00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:38,120 is that it should reproduce itself. 903 00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:42,520 Um, and... I mean, if everybody were homosexual, 904 00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:44,040 this planet would be dead. 905 00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:48,040 - I think people really are worried about homosexuality in general. 906 00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:50,920 I think a lot of people are really scared of it as well. 907 00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:54,520 They don't really understand it, and it almost horrifies them. 908 00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:57,080 The thought of a couple walking down the street, the same sex, 909 00:59:57,080 --> 01:00:00,440 holding hands, and I think they'd rather walk away from it, 910 01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:04,320 avoid it, and not talk about it than really look at it openly and try and 911 01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:06,680 find out what it's all about. 912 01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:10,280 - But I know a lot of people who are bothered by the fact that 913 01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:14,120 homosexuals in general do try to press their views on other people, 914 01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:17,520 and through programmes like this, they're almost sort of 915 01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:21,680 forcing their ways upon the majority. 916 01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:26,200 - Anyone wanting more information from organisations dealing with lesbians, 917 01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:29,720 should send us a stamped addressed envelope for our fact sheet. 918 01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:47,720 - # Is it difficult for you to be so beautiful? 919 01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:55,320 # Or do you find the advantages tend to outweigh the disadvantages? 920 01:00:57,560 --> 01:00:58,960 # Am I being rude? 921 01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:07,280 # I'm sorry, I've never really had the appropriate attitude... 922 01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:09,280 - Punk's not dead! 923 01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:19,040 - # Do you think that life is easier when one looks as good as you do? 924 01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:25,240 # Or do people always say that you are a narcissist? 925 01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:31,760 # Do they ingratiate themselves to you and act all obsequious? 926 01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:39,000 # Come on, now, baby, you can tell me, it's just between the two of us 927 01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:41,600 # Snug slacks, baby, snug slacks 928 01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:44,520 # Now you're giving me a different kind of panic attack 929 01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:47,600 # Sick joke, baby crack smoke, 930 01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:50,520 # Now take me out in your pick-up for a midnight poke 931 01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:53,640 # I said Stonehenge, baby, drug binge 932 01:01:53,640 --> 01:01:57,680 # Now you got me all damp down in my underpants 933 01:01:57,680 --> 01:01:59,920 # Snug slacks, baby, snug slacks 934 01:01:59,920 --> 01:02:01,440 # Now let's get you out of those 935 01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:03,880 # And see what kind of punch your manhood packs. # 936 01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:11,800 - Quite nice. - Yeah. - Just a minute, 937 01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:14,200 those girls over to your right, they're taking the mickey. 938 01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:16,560 Do you want me to go over and give them some verbal? 939 01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:19,960 - You did the last two. Let me do these. 940 01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:23,680 Here, you ain't taking the piss out of us, are you? 941 01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:26,320 Don't look like that. Listen, I'll tell you something, darling, 942 01:02:26,320 --> 01:02:28,000 I get paid for making people laugh, 943 01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:30,800 and I object to you two having it for nothing, all right? 944 01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:35,160 Right, where were we? 945 01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:38,280 That's it. 946 01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:41,880 - Yeah, I like that, it looks good. 947 01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:44,200 - How do you think homosexuals reveal themselves 948 01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:46,600 when they're talking about ordinary topics? 949 01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:50,440 - Perhaps in the assumptions they make about their future, 950 01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:53,480 which are going to be different from heterosexual futures. 951 01:02:56,160 --> 01:03:00,360 I make a deliberate effort in my conversation, sometimes, 952 01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:04,680 to imply that marriage is in my future. 953 01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:08,760 But talking at ease, I might give away the fact 954 01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:13,040 that, in practice, I know it's not going to be any part of my future. 955 01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:16,360 - Is a relationship like this a sort of imitation marriage, 956 01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:18,920 or is it something quite different from that? 957 01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:21,600 - It's not in fact an imitation marriage, it is a real marriage, 958 01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:24,520 in the sense that it is a union between two people. 959 01:03:26,560 --> 01:03:29,840 It can't, in fact, be precisely the same as a heterosexual marriage. 960 01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:31,360 There are no children, as you say, 961 01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:36,040 but in any other sense it is in fact a marriage between two people, 962 01:03:36,040 --> 01:03:39,000 and it is a permanent association of two people. 963 01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:47,400 - When there is no opprobrium, 964 01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:52,560 when there is no humiliation heaped on homosexuals from outside, 965 01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:54,960 they will cease to have to confirm or deny. 966 01:03:56,760 --> 01:03:58,440 Unfortunately, of course, 967 01:03:58,440 --> 01:04:02,280 toleration has come in a form that is slightly insulting. 968 01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:07,000 That is to say, one imagined the message, when it came, would read, 969 01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:11,360 "Forgive us for having for so long allowed our prejudices to blind us 970 01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:15,480 "to your true worth and cross our unworthy threshold 971 01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:20,920 "with your broad-minded feet." Instead, the message now reads, 972 01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:24,040 "Oh, come in, the place is a mess, you'll love it." 973 01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:29,120 - Will you marry me? 974 01:04:31,240 --> 01:04:34,240 - # Boy, you knock me on my ass so hard 975 01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:37,840 # How could I know that you was holding that ace card? 976 01:04:37,840 --> 01:04:41,160 # When I saw you, my jaw hit the floor 977 01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:44,400 # Now I don't want them other boys no more 978 01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:47,800 # You sent a laser beam of love to my soul 979 01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:51,400 # You make me shake so hard I lose control 980 01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:54,760 # My sweet director, won't you give me the part? 981 01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:58,760 # Cos you're the one who jump-started my heart 982 01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:08,600 # Cos you're my supernatural defibrillator 983 01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:12,000 # You are my heavenly re-animator 984 01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:15,400 # You are my super sexy stimulator 985 01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:18,160 # You are my loneliness exterminator 986 01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:24,440 # Come on, baby, 'fore I come on glue 987 01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:27,920 # Don't make me wait, boy, that would be so rude 988 01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:31,320 # You got me where I always wanted to be 989 01:05:31,320 --> 01:05:35,040 # Right in front of you and down on my knees 990 01:05:35,040 --> 01:05:37,920 # I feel like someone punched me right in my head 991 01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:41,640 # I need to lay down, baby, take me to bed 992 01:05:41,640 --> 01:05:44,800 # You leave me gobsmacked, dumbfounded, twitterpated, 993 01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:48,600 # Bound and struck, stunned and shot, fuddled, discombobulated... # 994 01:05:54,920 --> 01:05:58,760 # Cos you're my supernatural defibrillator 995 01:05:58,760 --> 01:06:02,200 # You are my heavenly re-animator 996 01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:06,080 # You are my super sexy stimulator 997 01:06:06,080 --> 01:06:09,040 # You are my loneliness exterminator 998 01:06:09,040 --> 01:06:12,360 # You are my supernatural defibrillator 999 01:06:12,360 --> 01:06:15,720 # You are my heavenly re-animator 1000 01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:18,800 # You are my super sexy stimulator 1001 01:06:18,800 --> 01:06:20,680 # You are my loneliness exterminator... # 1002 01:06:20,680 --> 01:06:23,280 - I will not accept a pardon. 1003 01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:27,760 To accept a pardon means that you accept that you were guilty. 1004 01:06:27,760 --> 01:06:29,920 I was not guilty of anything. 1005 01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:37,040 Not guilty of anything... 1006 01:06:42,040 --> 01:06:46,360 - # Cos you're my supernatural defibrillator 1007 01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:49,680 # You are my heavenly re-animator 1008 01:06:49,680 --> 01:06:53,480 # You are my super sexy stimulator 1009 01:06:53,480 --> 01:06:56,480 # You are my loneliness exterminator 1010 01:06:56,480 --> 01:06:59,800 # You are my supernatural defibrillator 1011 01:06:59,800 --> 01:07:04,000 # You are my heavenly re-animator 1012 01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:07,120 # You are my super sexy stimulator 1013 01:07:07,120 --> 01:07:10,080 # You are my loneliness exterminator. # 1014 01:07:14,600 --> 01:07:20,200 # Adeline, you heard 'em sing about sweet Adeline 1015 01:07:20,200 --> 01:07:23,400 # Hey, let me tell you she's a pal of mine 1016 01:07:23,400 --> 01:07:25,680 # She's divine 1017 01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:31,560 # That's just why I'm going back again to see my Adeline 1018 01:07:31,560 --> 01:07:35,520 # All right, I'll never learn, I'm out of line 1019 01:07:35,520 --> 01:07:38,400 # Did tell her that I'm going to make her mine 1020 01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:40,880 # Bells will chime 1021 01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:44,640 # For me and my sweet Adeline. # 82301

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