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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:28,720 HE STRUMS GUITAR 2 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:31,970 This guitar was the beginning of it all for me. 3 00:00:31,970 --> 00:00:34,680 HE PLAYS 4 00:00:41,930 --> 00:00:44,310 I don't have much of a process of, like, 5 00:00:44,310 --> 00:00:46,260 "I'm thinking about this, 6 00:00:46,260 --> 00:00:49,100 "and now I'm going to write a song, and it's going to be about that." 7 00:00:49,100 --> 00:00:50,970 A lot of times, 8 00:00:50,970 --> 00:00:54,140 the creative process is trying to catch yourself off guard. 9 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:59,060 And you sit down, and you've got a blank canvas, 10 00:00:59,060 --> 00:01:01,060 and you don't know what you're going to do, 11 00:01:01,060 --> 00:01:03,430 and you just see what happens. 12 00:01:09,100 --> 00:01:10,640 How you doing, man? 13 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:21,890 When you talk about songs that are reflective of your past, 14 00:01:21,890 --> 00:01:24,180 it becomes a jigsaw puzzle, 15 00:01:24,180 --> 00:01:27,930 because you write about what you know. 16 00:01:27,930 --> 00:01:29,470 You write about where you've been. 17 00:01:31,140 --> 00:01:32,970 You write about who you know. 18 00:01:40,010 --> 00:01:43,600 When I stumbled onto this song, Once Were Brothers... 19 00:01:45,350 --> 00:01:47,260 ..it really did, for me, 20 00:01:47,260 --> 00:01:51,180 zero in on The Band. 21 00:01:51,180 --> 00:01:53,810 # Once were brothers 22 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:59,930 # Brothers no more 23 00:01:59,930 --> 00:02:02,810 # We lost our connection 24 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:07,310 # After the war... # 25 00:02:07,310 --> 00:02:10,510 I don't know of any other group of musicians 26 00:02:10,510 --> 00:02:12,890 with a story equivalent 27 00:02:12,890 --> 00:02:15,180 to the story of The Band. 28 00:02:15,180 --> 00:02:18,600 And it was a beautiful thing. 29 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:21,890 It was so beautiful, it went up in flames. 30 00:02:21,890 --> 00:02:24,350 # Brothers no more... # 31 00:02:32,850 --> 00:02:36,350 MUSIC: Up On Cripple Creek by The Band 32 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:42,760 # When I get off of this mountain 33 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:45,010 # You know where I want to go 34 00:02:46,810 --> 00:02:49,010 # Straight down the Mississippi River 35 00:02:49,010 --> 00:02:51,600 # To the Gulf of Mexico 36 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:54,970 # To Lake George, Louisiana... # 37 00:02:54,970 --> 00:02:58,010 There is no band that emphasises 38 00:02:58,010 --> 00:02:59,720 coming together and becoming 39 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:02,310 greater than the sum of their parts than The Band. 40 00:03:02,310 --> 00:03:06,180 Simply their name - The Band - that was it. 41 00:03:06,180 --> 00:03:09,600 # Up on Cripple Creek She sends me 42 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:12,850 # If I sprang a leak She'd mend me 43 00:03:12,850 --> 00:03:16,260 # I don't have to speak She defends me 44 00:03:16,260 --> 00:03:20,350 # A drunkard's dream If I ever did see one 45 00:03:22,970 --> 00:03:25,680 # Good luck had just stung me 46 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:28,180 # And to the racetrack I did go 47 00:03:30,140 --> 00:03:32,930 # I bet on one horse to win 48 00:03:32,930 --> 00:03:35,470 # And she bet On another to show... # 49 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:39,010 I've never been in a band that long. 50 00:03:39,010 --> 00:03:41,640 I ran away, usually, and would move on 51 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:44,010 to the next thing that was attractive to me, 52 00:03:44,010 --> 00:03:47,010 or that was missing in the band I was in. So I didn't 53 00:03:47,010 --> 00:03:48,600 have a sense of brotherhood, 54 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:52,680 so I was in great awe of their brotherhood. 55 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:54,680 It was the soul of The Band. 56 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:58,010 # She mends me I don't have to speak 57 00:03:58,010 --> 00:04:00,810 # She defends me A drunkard's dream 58 00:04:00,810 --> 00:04:03,890 # If I ever did see one... # 59 00:04:06,260 --> 00:04:08,970 Not only did they have the incredible writing, 60 00:04:08,970 --> 00:04:11,310 you know, Robbie's writing, but they had three 61 00:04:11,310 --> 00:04:14,510 of the greatest white singers in rock history. 62 00:04:14,510 --> 00:04:18,140 To have any one of those guys would be the foundation 63 00:04:18,140 --> 00:04:21,180 for a great band. To have three of them in one group, 64 00:04:21,180 --> 00:04:24,310 that was...just loaded for bear. 65 00:04:26,180 --> 00:04:28,560 # That's when that little love of mine 66 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:31,100 # Dips her doughnut in my tea 67 00:04:32,470 --> 00:04:34,680 # Up on Cripple Creek... # 68 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:37,260 This music drew upon country music, 69 00:04:37,260 --> 00:04:40,310 English, Scotch, Irish, the choral sounds of the Welsh. 70 00:04:40,310 --> 00:04:41,810 At the same time, 71 00:04:41,810 --> 00:04:45,510 Mississippi Delta, the blues. And there was so much imagery. 72 00:04:45,510 --> 00:04:49,470 This...just didn't seem like anything else. 73 00:04:49,470 --> 00:04:51,680 No-one sounded like those guys. 74 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:54,560 You know, they came in, and they played. 75 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:58,140 And I just loved that about them, you know, they were about the music. 76 00:04:58,140 --> 00:04:59,680 # And she defends me 77 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:04,640 # A drunkard's dream if I ever did see one... # 78 00:05:09,970 --> 00:05:13,140 # No-no, hu-hu 79 00:05:13,140 --> 00:05:15,720 # Lodl-lodl-lodl-uh-hu... # 80 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:21,470 I think about Levon, Richard, Rick, and Garth all the time. 81 00:05:21,470 --> 00:05:24,890 We went through things together you could never replace. 82 00:05:24,890 --> 00:05:30,180 You can never give enough credit to something that special. 83 00:05:30,180 --> 00:05:32,100 I was an only child, 84 00:05:32,100 --> 00:05:35,850 so this brotherhood was so powerful. 85 00:05:35,850 --> 00:05:38,510 # Oh, I could get you with my yodel, I go 86 00:05:38,510 --> 00:05:41,470 # No-no, hu-hu 87 00:05:41,470 --> 00:05:45,560 # Lodl-lodl-lodl-lodl-lodl-uh-hu 88 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:48,010 # No-no-hu 89 00:05:48,010 --> 00:05:53,180 # Lodl-lodl-lodl-uh-hu 90 00:05:53,180 --> 00:05:56,310 # No, no, no, no, no. # 91 00:06:06,810 --> 00:06:08,560 I think we're warmed up. 92 00:06:27,180 --> 00:06:31,680 Since I was a kid, I see stories in a different way. 93 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:33,810 I don't see them like fairy tales. 94 00:06:37,430 --> 00:06:39,720 These stories are powerful, 95 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:43,010 and some of them are dangerous and big. 96 00:06:45,890 --> 00:06:48,310 Maybe that's because my upbringing was 97 00:06:48,310 --> 00:06:52,260 a little bit scattered and not normal, in some ways. 98 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:05,890 My mother was born and raised in the Six Nation Indian reserve. 99 00:07:05,890 --> 00:07:07,600 Her name was Dolly. 100 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:13,140 When she was around 16 years old, 101 00:07:13,140 --> 00:07:16,260 she was sent to live with an aunt in Toronto. 102 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:25,310 When we would go back to visit the relatives in the Indian reserve, 103 00:07:25,310 --> 00:07:27,640 I thought this was a magical place. 104 00:07:28,970 --> 00:07:30,890 It seemed like every day, 105 00:07:30,890 --> 00:07:33,680 when the sun started to go down, 106 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:35,810 the instruments would come out. 107 00:07:41,970 --> 00:07:44,760 And I could sit in the middle of this, 108 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:47,810 and hear the fingers on the strings, 109 00:07:47,810 --> 00:07:51,310 and the hands rubbing on the skins of the drum. 110 00:07:55,100 --> 00:07:58,180 My parents got me a little guitar 111 00:07:58,180 --> 00:08:01,100 with a cowboy painted on it. 112 00:08:01,100 --> 00:08:02,600 I already know 113 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:04,890 a couple of chords on the guitar 114 00:08:04,890 --> 00:08:08,260 that my relatives at Six Nations have taught me. 115 00:08:13,510 --> 00:08:17,600 I would practise and practise. 116 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:20,180 "This is where I belong. 117 00:08:20,180 --> 00:08:22,010 "This is calling me." 118 00:08:24,810 --> 00:08:27,390 I don't know for sure 119 00:08:27,390 --> 00:08:31,510 whether I would ever have found my way to music 120 00:08:31,510 --> 00:08:33,560 without this experience... 121 00:08:34,970 --> 00:08:36,390 ..and that's why I have 122 00:08:36,390 --> 00:08:40,310 such a deep appreciation for that place. 123 00:08:54,930 --> 00:08:58,760 And then we crossed into a time zone 124 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:01,430 when I was 13 years old. 125 00:09:01,430 --> 00:09:05,260 MUSIC: Johnny B Goode by Chuck Berry 126 00:09:12,180 --> 00:09:14,470 Overnight, out of nowhere, 127 00:09:14,470 --> 00:09:18,180 this new music came pouring out. 128 00:09:18,180 --> 00:09:21,310 # Deep down in Louisiana close to New Orleans 129 00:09:21,310 --> 00:09:23,930 # Way back up in the woods among the evergreens 130 00:09:23,930 --> 00:09:26,560 # There stood a log cabin made of Earth and wood 131 00:09:26,560 --> 00:09:29,890 # Where lived a country boy named Johnny B Goode 132 00:09:29,890 --> 00:09:32,310 # Who never ever learned to read or write so well 133 00:09:32,310 --> 00:09:34,560 # But he could play a guitar just like a-ringin' a bell 134 00:09:34,560 --> 00:09:35,970 # Go, go... # 135 00:09:35,970 --> 00:09:39,470 SPRINGSTEEN: For guys my age, it was a life-altering moment. 136 00:09:39,470 --> 00:09:41,510 Like, it just cut against the grain 137 00:09:41,510 --> 00:09:44,390 of the mundaneness of entertainment at that time. 138 00:09:48,430 --> 00:09:52,260 You know, it's raw, it's loud, it's raucous, it's tough. 139 00:09:52,260 --> 00:09:55,890 You know, the guitar sound is loud and thrilling. 140 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:03,970 It immediately imparted to you this entire new way 141 00:10:03,970 --> 00:10:08,600 of living, of looking, of walking, of talking, of being, 142 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:11,890 of the possibilities of what you might be able to do with your life. 143 00:10:11,890 --> 00:10:14,640 It was a revolutionary moment, you know. 144 00:10:15,970 --> 00:10:20,810 I thought of it as my own personal Big Bang. 145 00:10:20,810 --> 00:10:22,970 # Lucille 146 00:10:22,970 --> 00:10:25,010 # You won't do your sister's will 147 00:10:27,430 --> 00:10:28,930 # Lucille 148 00:10:29,970 --> 00:10:31,850 # You won't do your sister's will... # 149 00:10:31,850 --> 00:10:33,600 I thought, "That's it. 150 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:36,260 "I don't know what all you people are going to do, 151 00:10:36,260 --> 00:10:38,140 "but I know what I'm going to do." 152 00:10:41,470 --> 00:10:43,220 Within weeks, 153 00:10:43,220 --> 00:10:45,010 I was in my first band. 154 00:10:45,010 --> 00:10:47,680 We were off and running. 155 00:10:47,680 --> 00:10:49,680 # I'm walkin', yes, indeed 156 00:10:49,680 --> 00:10:51,640 # And I'm talkin' about you and me 157 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:52,930 # I'm hopin' 158 00:10:52,930 --> 00:10:54,890 # That you come back to me... # 159 00:10:54,890 --> 00:10:57,010 My schoolmates, they're like, 160 00:10:57,010 --> 00:10:59,970 "One of these days, I want to have my own bowling alley." 161 00:10:59,970 --> 00:11:03,810 I'd be like, "Oh, my God, your own bowling... 162 00:11:03,810 --> 00:11:06,260 "You could bowl for free all you wanted, right?" 163 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:10,720 I don't have that vision. 164 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:14,470 I saw something else, and the lights were really bright. 165 00:11:18,010 --> 00:11:20,970 Within a couple years, we were getting somewhere, 166 00:11:20,970 --> 00:11:24,470 booking different shows around Toronto. 167 00:11:24,470 --> 00:11:28,220 A local DJ booked us to open 168 00:11:28,220 --> 00:11:30,600 for Ronnie Hawkins and the Hawks. 169 00:11:36,140 --> 00:11:39,640 # Well, I had a little woman 170 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:42,060 # And her name was Baby Jean... # 171 00:11:42,970 --> 00:11:46,470 Ronnie Hawkins and the Hawks had 172 00:11:46,470 --> 00:11:48,970 a reputation to be the best 173 00:11:48,970 --> 00:11:51,390 rockabilly band around. 174 00:11:51,390 --> 00:11:54,350 # Baby Jean Baby Jean 175 00:11:54,350 --> 00:11:57,180 # Don't be mean... # 176 00:11:57,180 --> 00:11:59,470 These guys were up there 177 00:11:59,470 --> 00:12:02,560 with Jerry Lee Lewis, Conway Twitty, 178 00:12:02,560 --> 00:12:05,390 Carl Perkins, they were in that league. 179 00:12:05,390 --> 00:12:07,850 # My baby 180 00:12:07,850 --> 00:12:10,680 # Well, I learned to lose my mind... # 181 00:12:10,680 --> 00:12:13,560 We didn't know anything about Canada. 182 00:12:13,560 --> 00:12:16,260 We figured, Canada is the wilderness, they've still got 183 00:12:16,260 --> 00:12:20,680 mountain men, you know, eating each other, stuff like that. 184 00:12:20,680 --> 00:12:23,310 We didn't know nothing about Canada. Boy, and Canada is 185 00:12:23,310 --> 00:12:26,470 the promised land compared to where we came from. 186 00:12:26,470 --> 00:12:28,430 We played our hearts out. 187 00:12:28,430 --> 00:12:31,390 Then Ronnie Hawkins and the Hawks take the stage. 188 00:12:31,390 --> 00:12:34,890 Oh, my God. They took flight. 189 00:12:34,890 --> 00:12:36,100 # ..back home 190 00:12:37,390 --> 00:12:41,260 # I'm going to call up a gypsy woman on the telephone 191 00:12:42,470 --> 00:12:45,140 # I'm going to send out a worldwide hoo-doo there 192 00:12:45,140 --> 00:12:47,470 # That'd be the very thing that'd suit you 193 00:12:47,470 --> 00:12:51,350 # I'm going to see that she'll be back home in 40 days 194 00:12:51,350 --> 00:12:54,430 # Oh, 40 days 40 days... # 195 00:12:54,430 --> 00:12:56,720 Ronnie Hawkins was over here. 196 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:58,510 Boom, he was over there. 197 00:12:58,510 --> 00:13:00,140 He was singing just in time. 198 00:13:00,140 --> 00:13:03,350 The piano player would be playing a solo, 199 00:13:03,350 --> 00:13:07,510 keys would be flying off the piano, he was hitting it so hard. 200 00:13:13,930 --> 00:13:16,260 There was a guy playing drums 201 00:13:16,260 --> 00:13:18,890 who looked like he was 15 years old, 202 00:13:18,890 --> 00:13:20,970 with white-blonde hair, 203 00:13:20,970 --> 00:13:26,100 and he was twirling sticks, and he was laughing, and smiling, 204 00:13:26,100 --> 00:13:28,470 and he just seemed to glow in the dark, 205 00:13:28,470 --> 00:13:31,430 and his name was Levon Helm. 206 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:38,930 Well, I started with Ronnie when I was trying 207 00:13:38,930 --> 00:13:41,010 to get out of high school back in Arkansas. 208 00:13:41,010 --> 00:13:43,180 Ronnie was putting a band together. 209 00:13:43,180 --> 00:13:45,390 I got into it to play drums. 210 00:13:45,390 --> 00:13:47,180 We hit the road, played around for years, 211 00:13:47,180 --> 00:13:49,890 and ended up playing up in Canada. 212 00:13:49,890 --> 00:13:52,430 # That'd be the very thing that'd suit you... # 213 00:13:52,430 --> 00:13:58,060 "This is it. This is the most amazing thing on the planet Earth." 214 00:14:02,140 --> 00:14:05,310 After they played, I just stand around. 215 00:14:05,310 --> 00:14:08,390 I wanted to help out in any way I could, 216 00:14:08,390 --> 00:14:11,010 to have this rub off on me - 217 00:14:11,010 --> 00:14:14,310 this music, this talent, 218 00:14:14,310 --> 00:14:16,010 this southern-ness. 219 00:14:16,010 --> 00:14:18,180 I stack to them like glue. 220 00:14:20,970 --> 00:14:23,930 I knew right off the bat Robbie had something special. 221 00:14:23,930 --> 00:14:26,680 I don't know, he must've been 15 or 16 years old. 222 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:28,600 # Baba Lou... 223 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:31,100 But he was hip. Robbie was street hip. 224 00:14:31,100 --> 00:14:33,100 He was a hell of a young man. 225 00:14:34,930 --> 00:14:39,390 One day, I heard Ronnie Hawkins saying to the other guys, 226 00:14:39,390 --> 00:14:43,220 "I got to cut a new record. I need some songs." 227 00:14:43,220 --> 00:14:46,810 I scampered home, went to my room, 228 00:14:46,810 --> 00:14:50,260 and never came out until l wrote two songs. 229 00:14:53,810 --> 00:14:56,760 # I will love her till my dying day 230 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:58,890 # Don't know why she left 231 00:14:58,890 --> 00:15:00,760 # Left me this way 232 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:03,760 # Left me here all alone 233 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:07,430 # To sit and cry on my own... # 234 00:15:07,430 --> 00:15:09,930 Robbie was writing songs when he was 15 years old. 235 00:15:09,930 --> 00:15:13,260 I recorded two of said songs on my album 236 00:15:13,260 --> 00:15:15,850 before anybody ever thought about Robbie Robertson. 237 00:15:21,430 --> 00:15:24,510 At that time, Robbie dropped out of school. 238 00:15:24,510 --> 00:15:27,640 His mother, Dolly, she was worried about him. 239 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:32,810 There had been quite a period 240 00:15:32,810 --> 00:15:36,600 where my parents weren't getting along. 241 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:39,470 My father, Jim Robertson, 242 00:15:39,470 --> 00:15:42,760 was being quite abusive with my mother, 243 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:44,100 and with me. 244 00:15:45,930 --> 00:15:48,560 And one day she said to me, 245 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:50,010 "Sit down, I... 246 00:15:50,010 --> 00:15:52,600 "I need to tell you something. 247 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:55,470 "And maybe I should've told you this before, 248 00:15:55,470 --> 00:15:58,220 "but he's not your real father." 249 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:04,470 "W-What? 250 00:16:04,470 --> 00:16:07,720 "I... What do you mean, he's not my real father?" 251 00:16:09,810 --> 00:16:12,810 Robbie's real daddy was a Hebrew gangster. 252 00:16:12,810 --> 00:16:14,600 Yeah, they killed him, they shot him on 253 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:15,890 Yonge Street, I think. 254 00:16:22,100 --> 00:16:23,720 My mother says, 255 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:28,930 "Your blood father, his name was Alexander Klegerman. 256 00:16:28,930 --> 00:16:31,850 "He got killed before you were born. 257 00:16:32,810 --> 00:16:35,060 "He's Jewish." 258 00:16:35,060 --> 00:16:40,640 And she introduced me to the relatives of my blood father, 259 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:44,140 Natie Klegerman and Morrie Klegerman. 260 00:16:44,140 --> 00:16:46,930 They bring me into their world 261 00:16:46,930 --> 00:16:50,220 with tremendous love and affection. 262 00:16:50,220 --> 00:16:52,680 I met his uncle who'd been in the penitentiary ten years. 263 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:54,760 He was a gangster too. 264 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:57,680 Through these relatives of mine, 265 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:00,560 I'm understanding what's been stirring 266 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:02,680 inside of me all this time. 267 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:05,260 They understand vision. 268 00:17:05,260 --> 00:17:08,470 They understand ambition. 269 00:17:08,470 --> 00:17:12,560 When I told the Klegermans I had musical ambitions, 270 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:15,970 they were like, "Rock and roll? You don't want to be 271 00:17:15,970 --> 00:17:18,310 "in furs and diamonds? You want to be in the...?" 272 00:17:18,310 --> 00:17:21,930 And then they were like, "Oh, you mean, show business." 273 00:17:26,930 --> 00:17:28,680 I'm 16 years old now. 274 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:32,970 Ronnie Hawkins says, "I want you to come down to Arkansas 275 00:17:32,970 --> 00:17:37,220 "and try out to become one of the Hawks." 276 00:17:37,220 --> 00:17:40,510 If I didn't go down there and try out for this, 277 00:17:40,510 --> 00:17:43,760 I would be sorry the rest of my life. 278 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:48,010 I sold my '56 Stratocaster, 279 00:17:48,010 --> 00:17:51,470 I got the money to take a train from Toronto 280 00:17:51,470 --> 00:17:53,100 to Fayetteville, Arkansas. 281 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:13,140 I'm going to the Mississippi Delta - 282 00:18:13,140 --> 00:18:15,600 to the fountainhead of rock and roll. 283 00:18:16,970 --> 00:18:20,680 "This is it, this is it. I've got to make this work." 284 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:23,470 # I can't do it all by myself... # 285 00:18:23,470 --> 00:18:26,350 So many amazing music people came out of there. 286 00:18:26,350 --> 00:18:28,310 # You got to help me, baby 287 00:18:29,430 --> 00:18:31,720 # I can't do it all by myself 288 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:37,060 You know if you don't help me, darling.. # 289 00:18:38,100 --> 00:18:41,560 This music is down and dirty. 290 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:43,510 And it's heavy, 291 00:18:43,510 --> 00:18:44,680 just like the air. 292 00:18:53,970 --> 00:18:55,640 LEVON: Growin' up there in the Delta, 293 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:58,600 just in the Memphis, West Memphis area there, 294 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:01,560 we had as good a radio as you could find. 295 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:05,510 Our jukeboxes and radios weren't running short of good songs. 296 00:19:06,510 --> 00:19:08,850 I consider myself fortunate to have 297 00:19:08,850 --> 00:19:12,220 grown up there and heard the kind of music that I did. 298 00:19:19,390 --> 00:19:22,100 Robbie was a hell of a gifted musician, I can tell you that. 299 00:19:22,100 --> 00:19:24,390 But what made him better than anybody else is 300 00:19:24,390 --> 00:19:26,560 he worked twice as hard. 301 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:29,010 Finally, Ronnie says, 302 00:19:29,010 --> 00:19:31,760 "I'm going to offer you the job." 303 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:36,510 I say, "You'll never have to tell me to work harder." 304 00:19:36,510 --> 00:19:38,180 He said, "I know." 305 00:19:38,180 --> 00:19:42,890 So I say, "Great. How much will I get paid working for you?" 306 00:19:42,890 --> 00:19:44,890 And I said, "Well, don't worry about the money, kid. 307 00:19:44,890 --> 00:19:46,810 "You ain't going to make much money, 308 00:19:46,810 --> 00:19:49,350 "but you'll be getting more pussy than Frank Sinatra." 309 00:19:49,350 --> 00:19:50,430 "And he did. 310 00:19:53,010 --> 00:19:59,350 # Hey, Bo Diddley 311 00:19:59,350 --> 00:20:01,470 # Hey, Bo Diddley... # 312 00:20:01,470 --> 00:20:05,140 I depended on Levon to show me the road. 313 00:20:05,140 --> 00:20:08,310 He had grown, in my eyes, 314 00:20:08,310 --> 00:20:10,350 bigger than life. 315 00:20:10,350 --> 00:20:14,010 When he laughed, everybody laughed. 316 00:20:14,010 --> 00:20:16,430 They were the best friends you could ever be. 317 00:20:16,430 --> 00:20:18,560 They were like Huckleberry Finn and Tom Sawyer. 318 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:20,680 It was a hell of a combination, I thought, 319 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:23,260 because Levon could put the arrangements and stuff together 320 00:20:23,260 --> 00:20:25,760 and do all that, and Robbie could write the songs. 321 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:30,640 When I saw Robbie play guitar, it just blew my mind. 322 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:33,430 Every guitar player in Toronto learned from Robbie. 323 00:20:33,430 --> 00:20:35,430 He changed the whole ball game up here. 324 00:20:35,430 --> 00:20:37,260 I can remember people discussing, 325 00:20:37,260 --> 00:20:40,760 "How does Robbie make that guitar sound?" 326 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:42,430 That was the big mystery. 327 00:20:42,430 --> 00:20:44,430 There was, like, stories going around that, 328 00:20:44,430 --> 00:20:48,560 "Oh, he slashed his speakers, broke a couple of tubes in the amp." 329 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:52,470 Every guitar player I met after that was doing the same thing. 330 00:20:52,470 --> 00:20:55,470 I watched them all change from their old style of playing 331 00:20:55,470 --> 00:20:58,260 to the new Robbie style of playing, and I was... 332 00:20:58,260 --> 00:20:59,510 ..I was one of the pack. 333 00:21:14,260 --> 00:21:17,220 Ronnie depends on Levon and I 334 00:21:17,220 --> 00:21:20,390 to help him choose musicians 335 00:21:20,390 --> 00:21:22,600 that have potential. 336 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:28,810 Ronnie wants to have the best band in the land. 337 00:21:28,810 --> 00:21:30,430 Have you ever heard me sing? 338 00:21:30,430 --> 00:21:32,180 I'll better have a good band! 339 00:21:33,810 --> 00:21:37,100 The Arkansas boys would quit and Ronnie would replace 340 00:21:37,100 --> 00:21:39,470 with a Canadian musician. 341 00:21:39,470 --> 00:21:43,390 Within a fairly short time, we had Richard, Rick, 342 00:21:43,390 --> 00:21:45,810 and when Garth finally joined the outfit, 343 00:21:45,810 --> 00:21:47,430 I think that gave us a leg up. 344 00:21:49,350 --> 00:21:53,970 We didn't know a musician that could do what he could do. 345 00:21:53,970 --> 00:21:56,720 Garth understood Muddy Waters 346 00:21:56,720 --> 00:22:00,470 and Bach in the same sentence. 347 00:22:00,470 --> 00:22:04,390 Richard was an incredibly beautiful soul. 348 00:22:04,390 --> 00:22:07,140 You couldn't help but just love the guy. 349 00:22:07,140 --> 00:22:08,760 It was kind of like boot camp. 350 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:11,510 I mean, we drove ourselves to as near perfection 351 00:22:11,510 --> 00:22:13,140 as we could get, you know? 352 00:22:13,140 --> 00:22:16,850 To the point where we'd really thrill each other. 353 00:22:16,850 --> 00:22:19,180 Rick was one of these people that was like, 354 00:22:19,180 --> 00:22:25,180 "Trombone, bass, tuba, violin. Whatever it is, I can do it." 355 00:22:25,180 --> 00:22:27,470 RICK: We were kids playing in bars 356 00:22:27,470 --> 00:22:29,470 that you were supposed to be 21 to play in. 357 00:22:29,470 --> 00:22:31,720 We were 17, 18, 19. 358 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:34,470 It can get pretty outrageous when you're out there that young. 359 00:22:34,470 --> 00:22:37,060 # Further on up the road 360 00:22:38,310 --> 00:22:40,680 # Someone going to hurt you like you hurt me 361 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:45,390 # Further on up the road... # 362 00:22:45,390 --> 00:22:46,970 RONNIE: Robbie's mom, Dolly, 363 00:22:46,970 --> 00:22:49,100 she helped the band out more than anybody. 364 00:22:49,100 --> 00:22:51,260 She would give them places to stay cheap, 365 00:22:51,260 --> 00:22:54,890 fed 'em, cooked. She did everything. She was somethin' else. 366 00:22:54,890 --> 00:22:56,890 # Baby, just you wait and see... # 367 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:01,680 We played six days a week and we practised five. 368 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:03,640 That's how come they got good. 369 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,220 They were probably the best white rhythm and blues band 370 00:23:06,220 --> 00:23:07,600 in the world at that time. 371 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:08,970 When they were young, 372 00:23:08,970 --> 00:23:11,140 they were absorbing all that knowledge quick. 373 00:23:11,140 --> 00:23:15,010 They shot by me musically like a bolt of lightning. 374 00:23:15,010 --> 00:23:18,890 We were outgrowing the past 375 00:23:18,890 --> 00:23:21,220 and the music that we were playing with Ronnie. 376 00:23:33,930 --> 00:23:38,890 When we left Ronnie, we ended up playing at a club in New York, 377 00:23:38,890 --> 00:23:41,810 and one day my friend, John Hammond, 378 00:23:41,810 --> 00:23:43,890 a great musician, blues singer, 379 00:23:43,890 --> 00:23:45,930 he came and picked me up at the hotel, 380 00:23:45,930 --> 00:23:49,220 and we're going to the Columbia Records Building, 381 00:23:49,220 --> 00:23:51,310 to one of the studios. 382 00:23:51,310 --> 00:23:58,010 We go in. I see over in the corner this guy with dark glasses on 383 00:23:58,010 --> 00:24:00,720 and frizzly hair, and John says, 384 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:02,390 "This is Bob Dylan." 385 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,850 MUSIC: Like A Rolling Stone by Bob Dylan 386 00:24:13,060 --> 00:24:15,470 # Once upon a time you dressed so fine 387 00:24:15,470 --> 00:24:18,850 # Threw the bums a dime in your prime 388 00:24:18,850 --> 00:24:20,850 # Didn't you...? # 389 00:24:20,850 --> 00:24:24,350 Bob Dylan's a really respected songwriter. 390 00:24:24,350 --> 00:24:28,010 He was best known to me as a folk singer with a guitar 391 00:24:28,010 --> 00:24:29,850 and he has a harmonica, 392 00:24:29,850 --> 00:24:32,930 and he sings his beautiful songs. 393 00:24:32,930 --> 00:24:35,720 Folk music, from what we knew, 394 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:39,060 was happening over by a university somewhere, 395 00:24:39,060 --> 00:24:41,350 and people were sipping cappuccinos, 396 00:24:41,350 --> 00:24:43,260 listening to folk music. 397 00:24:43,260 --> 00:24:45,850 Where we're playing, on the other side of the tracks, 398 00:24:45,850 --> 00:24:49,680 there ain't nobody sipping cappuccinos over there. 399 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,140 LEVON: I didn't know a whole lot about Bob. 400 00:24:52,140 --> 00:24:56,970 We were more into R&B and blues music. 401 00:25:00,140 --> 00:25:02,470 When we left Ronnie, 402 00:25:02,470 --> 00:25:04,390 I want to be something original, 403 00:25:04,390 --> 00:25:06,510 I don't want to be a bar band. 404 00:25:06,510 --> 00:25:08,930 I've got to come back to writing. 405 00:25:08,930 --> 00:25:13,760 I'm having dreams about finding a sanctuary, 406 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:15,810 finding a place that we can go, 407 00:25:15,810 --> 00:25:19,100 and we can hone these skills, and we're just not 408 00:25:19,100 --> 00:25:22,010 on the road driving to the next gig. 409 00:25:22,010 --> 00:25:25,680 They were playing these gigs, trying to get a recording deal. 410 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,850 I said, "Well, gee, you know, how about we make a record together? 411 00:25:28,850 --> 00:25:31,010 And I was signed to Vanguard Records. 412 00:25:31,010 --> 00:25:34,810 And they gave us, like, a three-hour window to record. 413 00:25:34,810 --> 00:25:37,970 I invited my friend Bob Dylan to the recording day. 414 00:25:37,970 --> 00:25:39,640 So I introduced them to Dylan. 415 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:41,640 And... And Dylan flipped out. 416 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,850 I mean, he thought these guys were phenomenal. 417 00:25:44,850 --> 00:25:46,810 What we didn't know 418 00:25:46,810 --> 00:25:50,640 is that Bob's already doing the rock and roll thing. 419 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:53,720 MUSIC: Maggie's Farm by Bob Dylan 420 00:26:01,100 --> 00:26:07,060 He wanted to hire an amazing band that he could take on tour with him. 421 00:26:07,060 --> 00:26:09,390 So he hired the guys. 422 00:26:09,390 --> 00:26:12,510 MUSIC: Just Like Tom Thumb's Blues by Bob Dylan 423 00:26:18,930 --> 00:26:21,850 # When you're lost in the rain 424 00:26:21,850 --> 00:26:23,140 # In Juarez 425 00:26:23,140 --> 00:26:25,180 # And it's Easter time too... # 426 00:26:27,810 --> 00:26:30,310 Bob Dylan's thing was like a detour. 427 00:26:30,310 --> 00:26:32,510 We're hooking up with this guy, 428 00:26:32,510 --> 00:26:35,640 and he's changing the course of music. 429 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:36,970 He's like... 430 00:26:36,970 --> 00:26:39,100 ..the king of the folk movement 431 00:26:39,100 --> 00:26:42,260 who now wants a rock and roll band. 432 00:26:42,260 --> 00:26:47,100 Huh! That's not a bad thing to experience along the way too. 433 00:26:47,100 --> 00:26:50,220 We thought, "Let's take that detour." 434 00:26:50,220 --> 00:26:53,180 # They got some hungry women there 435 00:26:53,180 --> 00:26:57,930 # And they really make a mess out of you... # 436 00:26:57,930 --> 00:27:01,430 We hook up with him, and have no idea 437 00:27:01,430 --> 00:27:04,680 that he's the only one that thinks this is a good idea. 438 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,930 The rest of the world hates this idea. 439 00:27:07,930 --> 00:27:11,350 We play with him and they boo us every night. 440 00:27:11,350 --> 00:27:14,970 It is weird that people could 441 00:27:14,970 --> 00:27:20,220 be this upset about this guy just wanting to expand 442 00:27:20,220 --> 00:27:22,060 his musical horizon 443 00:27:22,060 --> 00:27:24,640 and play with other musicians. 444 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:28,060 MUSIC: Tell Me, Momma by Bob Dylan 445 00:27:34,310 --> 00:27:38,510 # Ol' black Bascom don't break no mirrors 446 00:27:38,510 --> 00:27:42,510 # Cold black water dog make no tears... # 447 00:27:42,510 --> 00:27:46,470 We'd go somewhere, we set up our equipment, we play. 448 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:51,430 People come, they boo us, sometimes throw things. 449 00:27:51,430 --> 00:27:53,430 We'd pack up our equipment, 450 00:27:53,430 --> 00:27:55,180 go on to the next place, 451 00:27:55,180 --> 00:27:58,140 set up, play, they boo us. 452 00:27:58,140 --> 00:28:00,890 I think, "What a strange way to make a buck." 453 00:28:04,100 --> 00:28:06,180 Kids would break for the stage, 454 00:28:06,180 --> 00:28:09,310 cops were making open-field tackles... 455 00:28:09,310 --> 00:28:11,260 ..out in front of the stage. 456 00:28:11,260 --> 00:28:13,220 And Bob had told us, you know, 457 00:28:13,220 --> 00:28:15,430 "Whatever happens, just don't stop playing." 458 00:28:15,430 --> 00:28:18,010 # Tell me, Mamma 459 00:28:20,430 --> 00:28:22,680 # Tell me, Mamma 460 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,470 # Tell me, Mamma, what is it? 461 00:28:29,510 --> 00:28:34,310 # What's wrong with you this time...? # 462 00:28:34,310 --> 00:28:36,010 Cool car! 463 00:28:36,010 --> 00:28:39,180 Get the bass in with Robbie. Let's go. 464 00:28:39,180 --> 00:28:41,310 Let's go, we have to go now. Hey, tell them we have to go. 465 00:28:41,310 --> 00:28:43,220 Hey, don't pull my fingers! 466 00:28:43,220 --> 00:28:46,720 So long. So long. Don't boo me any more! 467 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:50,100 When they yell in this weird nasal tone. 468 00:28:50,100 --> 00:28:52,680 Oh. Jesus, you know, I don't understand why they... 469 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:54,890 How can they buy the tickets up so fast? 470 00:28:54,890 --> 00:28:56,350 Let's get that light off. 471 00:29:09,890 --> 00:29:13,180 Levon expressed to me that there was 472 00:29:13,180 --> 00:29:15,640 something in this whole world 473 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,510 that we had entered into that just didn't feel right to him. 474 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:21,140 And the idea that we would 475 00:29:21,140 --> 00:29:25,390 go out and play and people would boo us, 476 00:29:25,390 --> 00:29:28,600 he thought that was just ridiculous. 477 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:34,220 And I... I was much closer to Bob than the other guys were. 478 00:29:34,220 --> 00:29:37,600 I don't think Levon felt good about that, either. 479 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:41,760 # I bet you might think it's foolish 480 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:43,470 # To be this way 481 00:29:43,470 --> 00:29:45,970 # And am I sane? To who?... # 482 00:29:47,810 --> 00:29:50,390 One night, Levon comes 483 00:29:50,390 --> 00:29:53,430 to my hotel room and he says, 484 00:29:53,430 --> 00:29:57,060 "I don't like this music. I don't like these people. 485 00:29:57,060 --> 00:29:59,010 "I don't want to be here. 486 00:29:59,010 --> 00:30:01,470 "And I don't want to be in anybody's band. 487 00:30:03,010 --> 00:30:04,220 "I want to go." 488 00:30:06,430 --> 00:30:09,640 He didn't go anywhere without me. 489 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,430 He said, "I'm going to go down to New Orleans 490 00:30:12,430 --> 00:30:17,470 "and maybe work on an oil rig in the Gulf of Mexico." 491 00:30:17,470 --> 00:30:20,760 And I said, "Have you told the other guys?" 492 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,470 He said, "No, I haven't spoke to the other guys. 493 00:30:23,470 --> 00:30:25,310 "I'd like you to do that for me." 494 00:30:25,310 --> 00:30:27,720 # Sometimes, you know... # 495 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:33,140 "Tell them I wish them well, and I'll see them down the line." 496 00:30:33,140 --> 00:30:35,760 So I walked him down the street, 497 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:40,640 and I put my arm around his shoulders as we were walking along. 498 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:42,600 He felt beat up to me. 499 00:30:43,970 --> 00:30:48,010 And I knew that he was really in pain. 500 00:30:48,010 --> 00:30:49,970 My heart was breaking. 501 00:30:49,970 --> 00:30:52,970 My partner, my brother... 502 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:56,970 ..has left, has gone. 503 00:30:56,970 --> 00:30:59,180 I don't know how to do this 504 00:30:59,180 --> 00:31:00,390 without Levon... 505 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:03,640 ..but I'm going to have to figure it out. 506 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,430 # Well, she hit a wall 507 00:31:08,010 --> 00:31:10,430 # Back when I was young 508 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:17,720 # But you're headed out 509 00:31:18,930 --> 00:31:21,060 # But I'll be here 510 00:31:21,060 --> 00:31:23,390 # She knows she's the one... # 511 00:31:23,390 --> 00:31:28,010 After Levon left, we had to get another drummer. 512 00:31:28,010 --> 00:31:29,720 Mickey Jones was his name, 513 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:31,970 and he was a terrific guy, 514 00:31:31,970 --> 00:31:34,510 but, boy, they were tough shoes to fill. 515 00:31:34,510 --> 00:31:36,600 Levon left a big hole. 516 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,180 We play all over Europe, 517 00:31:53,180 --> 00:31:55,640 and it just gets worse. 518 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,100 We were thinking, "Maybe they don't like it here, 519 00:31:58,100 --> 00:32:01,220 "but when we go there, they'll probably feel differently." 520 00:32:01,220 --> 00:32:02,350 No. 521 00:32:03,970 --> 00:32:06,720 Being in the trenches with Bob on this fight 522 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:08,260 probably reinforced their relationship. 523 00:32:08,260 --> 00:32:10,970 I think they became closer under fire. 524 00:32:10,970 --> 00:32:13,560 It's fun to revolt. Robbie's young, 525 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,970 and you know, throwin' it in the faces of all these like, pissant, 526 00:32:16,970 --> 00:32:19,060 you know, people that are in tweeds, or whatever. 527 00:32:19,060 --> 00:32:21,890 GEORGE HARRISON: I remember it well. The show was in two halves. 528 00:32:21,890 --> 00:32:23,930 In the first half, Bob came out and did 529 00:32:23,930 --> 00:32:26,390 his usual thing with the guitar and the harmonica. 530 00:32:26,390 --> 00:32:28,760 In the second half, he came out with the band. 531 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,760 All through that second half, people were getting up 532 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:35,350 and walking out, shouting, and Bob just came out and he said, 533 00:32:35,350 --> 00:32:38,060 "Well, you know, "You all may know this song. 534 00:32:38,060 --> 00:32:40,100 "Um, remember how it goes? 535 00:32:40,100 --> 00:32:42,060 "Well, here's how it goes now." You know? 536 00:32:42,060 --> 00:32:44,760 MUSIC: Ballad Of A Thin Man by Bob Dylan 537 00:32:50,100 --> 00:32:53,470 I remember saying to the other guys, 538 00:32:53,470 --> 00:32:56,600 "This is good. They're wrong. 539 00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,010 "This is good." 540 00:32:59,010 --> 00:33:01,850 And then you realise, 541 00:33:01,850 --> 00:33:04,930 you're in a musical revolution. 542 00:33:04,930 --> 00:33:07,350 There is something going on here, 543 00:33:07,350 --> 00:33:09,810 and you have nothing to compare it to. 544 00:33:11,510 --> 00:33:16,260 It just made us feel like flexing our musical muscles. 545 00:33:16,260 --> 00:33:19,510 "We're going to play this music in your face." 546 00:33:26,470 --> 00:33:28,640 DYLAN: The guys that were with me on that tour, 547 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,350 you know, we were all in it together. 548 00:33:30,350 --> 00:33:32,720 We were puttin' our heads in the lion's mouth. 549 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,220 I had to admire them for sticking it out with me, 550 00:33:35,220 --> 00:33:37,760 just for doing it, in my book they were, you know... 551 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:41,470 ..gallant knights for even, you know, standing behind me. 552 00:33:43,010 --> 00:33:45,760 # Mr Jones. # 553 00:34:00,180 --> 00:34:02,890 One day, we were just taking a walk 554 00:34:02,890 --> 00:34:04,810 and looking in stores. 555 00:34:04,810 --> 00:34:09,220 I see two really pretty girls. 556 00:34:12,260 --> 00:34:14,350 We're taking a wonderful walk. 557 00:34:14,350 --> 00:34:15,930 It was the springtime in Paris. 558 00:34:15,930 --> 00:34:19,430 There was a gathering of people somewhere around the corner 559 00:34:19,430 --> 00:34:22,600 who began to talk to us, and asked us what we were doing. 560 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:30,600 In broken English, they say they're journalists from Montreal. 561 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:34,430 I'm like, "Wow! I'm from Canada too. 562 00:34:34,430 --> 00:34:36,220 "I'm from Toronto." 563 00:34:36,220 --> 00:34:39,220 And they look like, "Oh, that's too bad." 564 00:34:39,220 --> 00:34:41,600 And this whole thing at the time 565 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,970 between English-speaking and the French-speaking, 566 00:34:44,970 --> 00:34:46,930 they were in a revolutionary spirit. 567 00:34:46,930 --> 00:34:50,390 This is when they were putting bombs in mailboxes, 568 00:34:50,390 --> 00:34:52,640 and it was rough going. 569 00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:55,260 I'm on neutral territory, I'm in Paris. 570 00:34:55,260 --> 00:34:57,850 He looked like family to me from the beginning. 571 00:34:57,850 --> 00:35:01,390 It was like...I recognised him. 572 00:35:05,060 --> 00:35:07,260 I am fancy dancing 573 00:35:07,260 --> 00:35:10,850 the best I can to charm Dominique 574 00:35:10,850 --> 00:35:13,350 into thinking I'm not a bad person, 575 00:35:13,350 --> 00:35:14,760 I'm not the enemy. 576 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:18,220 And we've got to spend some time together. 577 00:35:19,970 --> 00:35:22,260 We went to the concert at the Olympia, 578 00:35:22,260 --> 00:35:24,470 and the crowd was roaring 579 00:35:24,470 --> 00:35:27,760 in anger about electric guitars. 580 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:31,510 I didn't even realise people were booing any more. 581 00:35:31,510 --> 00:35:35,180 There was something about her spirit. 582 00:35:35,180 --> 00:35:38,680 There was something about her eyes and her smile, 583 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,100 and it was a fire inside her. 584 00:35:43,010 --> 00:35:45,560 Even though I didn't speak his language, 585 00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:47,600 I spoke a language that touched him. 586 00:35:49,970 --> 00:35:53,060 I was definitely falling in love with Robbie. 587 00:36:00,390 --> 00:36:02,760 When we got back to New York City, 588 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:06,220 I invited her to come and join me there, 589 00:36:06,220 --> 00:36:08,010 and eventually she did. 590 00:36:09,390 --> 00:36:11,890 The other guys in the Hawks and myself 591 00:36:11,890 --> 00:36:13,930 were trying to find a place 592 00:36:13,930 --> 00:36:16,470 where we could start working on our music. 593 00:36:18,350 --> 00:36:21,560 Albert Grossman, Bob's manager, 594 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,560 he had a place up in Woodstock, New York. 595 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:30,600 Albert was an anomaly in the world of the record businesspeople. 596 00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:32,100 He didn't wear a suit. 597 00:36:32,100 --> 00:36:35,140 His had his hair tied back in a ponytail. 598 00:36:35,140 --> 00:36:38,260 He looked like an overweight Benjamin Franklin. 599 00:36:38,260 --> 00:36:40,560 Albert took very good care of his artists. 600 00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:44,220 But as far as dealing with other people, he was shrewd. 601 00:36:44,220 --> 00:36:48,010 Bob had moved up to Woodstock, got a house. 602 00:36:48,010 --> 00:36:50,850 Albert would go up there on the weekends. 603 00:36:50,850 --> 00:36:53,760 So Albert says, "Come up to Woodstock. 604 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,760 "There's so much room up there. You can get a place. 605 00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:59,350 "You can make all the sounds you want." 606 00:37:01,970 --> 00:37:05,310 It was a very welcoming possibility. 607 00:37:05,310 --> 00:37:07,930 # He sits in your room 608 00:37:07,930 --> 00:37:11,310 # His tomb with a fistful of tacks... # 609 00:37:11,310 --> 00:37:15,010 Rick found us this ugly pink house. 610 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:24,140 This is just what I've been dreaming about all these years - 611 00:37:24,140 --> 00:37:26,430 a sanctuary that we could 612 00:37:26,430 --> 00:37:29,220 go and write and create. 613 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:35,560 Oh, my God, I mean, a... 614 00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:37,560 ..pretty corny house, you know? 615 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:39,060 But it was perfect. 616 00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:45,890 So we moved up to Woodstock. 617 00:37:45,890 --> 00:37:51,640 We built a little studio in the basement, just for writing purposes. 618 00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:54,310 Garth, Richard, and Rick 619 00:37:54,310 --> 00:37:56,310 moved into this house. 620 00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:00,310 I called Bob, and I drive him out there 621 00:38:00,310 --> 00:38:02,310 to show him the place. 622 00:38:02,310 --> 00:38:05,180 And he comes in and he looks at this basement, 623 00:38:05,180 --> 00:38:08,180 and he sees all the instruments set up there, 624 00:38:08,180 --> 00:38:10,970 a little tape recorder, some microphones. 625 00:38:10,970 --> 00:38:15,220 He says, "Can you record music in this place?" 626 00:38:15,220 --> 00:38:17,850 And I was like, "Yeah, we've got that little tape recorder. 627 00:38:17,850 --> 00:38:19,220 "It's not... 628 00:38:19,220 --> 00:38:21,100 "..you know, a recording studio, 629 00:38:21,100 --> 00:38:23,600 "but it's pretty good for writing and stuff. " 630 00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:26,640 "He said, "Listen, I've got a couple of song ideas 631 00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:30,510 "I've been kicking around. Maybe we could try them here." 632 00:38:30,510 --> 00:38:34,010 Great! That's the spirit. 633 00:38:34,010 --> 00:38:36,260 # Now look here, dear Sue 634 00:38:36,260 --> 00:38:38,470 # You best feed the cats 635 00:38:38,470 --> 00:38:40,640 # The cats need feeding 636 00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:43,060 # You're the one to do it 637 00:38:43,060 --> 00:38:45,350 # Get your head 638 00:38:45,350 --> 00:38:47,180 # Feed the cats 639 00:38:47,180 --> 00:38:49,390 # You ain't going nowhere... # 640 00:38:51,890 --> 00:38:53,760 Bob would come by, you know, 641 00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,430 every day for about a six, seven-month period, and we'd... 642 00:38:56,430 --> 00:38:59,810 ..we'd get together every afternoon six to seven days a week. 643 00:38:59,810 --> 00:39:03,350 And just from us getting together and applying ourselves, 644 00:39:03,350 --> 00:39:06,640 a lot does come out of that. 645 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,970 In the living room, there was a couple of typewriters, 646 00:39:09,970 --> 00:39:12,680 because Bob wrote songs on a typewriter. 647 00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:15,260 And he'd say, "Guys, let's go, let's go. 648 00:39:15,260 --> 00:39:17,140 "I think I got something. Let's go." 649 00:39:17,140 --> 00:39:19,470 We'd all go downstairs, we would record it. 650 00:39:20,930 --> 00:39:22,850 DYLAN: No, not any harmony, 651 00:39:22,850 --> 00:39:26,680 but harmony in the background like, "Ooh!" 652 00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:28,390 # Whoa-oh... # Yeah, right. 653 00:39:28,390 --> 00:39:29,850 # Why, why? # 654 00:39:29,850 --> 00:39:31,720 You know, just... # Oh, why... 655 00:39:31,720 --> 00:39:34,930 Every time I go to town 656 00:39:34,930 --> 00:39:38,430 # The bars keep kicking my dog around 657 00:39:38,430 --> 00:39:41,890 # I don't know why I'm going to town 658 00:39:41,890 --> 00:39:44,390 # I don't know why they kick my dog around 659 00:39:44,390 --> 00:39:47,600 # Let me hear you now! Dog, dog, dog 660 00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:50,350 # Dog, dog, dog... # 661 00:39:50,350 --> 00:39:54,100 Working with Bob, I saw a door opening. 662 00:39:54,100 --> 00:39:56,890 He was making the possibility 663 00:39:56,890 --> 00:40:00,510 of using poetry in songwriting 664 00:40:00,510 --> 00:40:03,680 like I had never quite seen before. 665 00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:06,680 It gave you a sense of liberty. 666 00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,220 You used to think, "I don't know if you can do that. 667 00:40:09,220 --> 00:40:11,850 "I don't know, is it all right to say that? 668 00:40:11,850 --> 00:40:14,640 "Can you express things in that kind of way?" 669 00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:16,760 Boom - no rules. 670 00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:18,930 # Well, that big, dumb blonde 671 00:40:18,930 --> 00:40:21,350 # With her wheel gorged 672 00:40:21,350 --> 00:40:23,060 # Turtle, that friend of hers 673 00:40:23,060 --> 00:40:25,140 # With his cheque all forged 674 00:40:25,140 --> 00:40:26,970 # And his cheeks in a chunk 675 00:40:26,970 --> 00:40:29,260 # With his cheese in the cash 676 00:40:29,260 --> 00:40:31,100 # They're all going to be there 677 00:40:31,100 --> 00:40:33,010 # At that million-dollar bash... # 678 00:40:34,310 --> 00:40:36,310 Robbie is a real artist. 679 00:40:36,310 --> 00:40:39,220 He is an amazing creative force. 680 00:40:40,720 --> 00:40:44,310 I never saw him without a little pad of paper and a pencil, 681 00:40:44,310 --> 00:40:47,100 writing notes about everything. 682 00:40:47,100 --> 00:40:51,970 Some thought, some idea that he could use later in a song. 683 00:40:51,970 --> 00:40:55,140 # She reads the leaves 684 00:40:55,140 --> 00:40:58,060 # And she leads the life 685 00:40:58,060 --> 00:41:01,760 # That she learned so well 686 00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,970 # From the old wives 687 00:41:04,970 --> 00:41:07,890 # It's so strange to arrange... # 688 00:41:07,890 --> 00:41:11,350 When Dominique was becoming my girlfriend, 689 00:41:11,350 --> 00:41:14,560 her connection to French literature, 690 00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:16,720 poetry, music, 691 00:41:16,720 --> 00:41:19,470 was rubbing off on me. 692 00:41:19,470 --> 00:41:22,600 The path that I was on intellectually, 693 00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:24,680 boom, she altered it, 694 00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:28,060 and I was being highly inspired 695 00:41:28,060 --> 00:41:31,510 by what she was bringing to the table as well. 696 00:41:37,430 --> 00:41:40,850 # I can't get to you... # 697 00:41:40,850 --> 00:41:44,640 Albert Grossman was thinking about getting 698 00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:46,560 the Hawks a record deal. 699 00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:49,180 So he said, "You need to record 700 00:41:49,180 --> 00:41:51,560 "a couple of your tunes so I can play them 701 00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:53,680 "for some record companies." 702 00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:56,470 So we went into a studio, 703 00:41:56,470 --> 00:41:58,510 and we got a session drummer. 704 00:41:58,510 --> 00:42:01,310 I was really not satisfied 705 00:42:01,310 --> 00:42:03,180 with what we did. 706 00:42:03,180 --> 00:42:06,430 If you have a...a table and one of the legs is missing, 707 00:42:06,430 --> 00:42:08,350 it doesn't sit steady. 708 00:42:08,350 --> 00:42:12,810 This was the sign, it's time for him to come back. 709 00:42:12,810 --> 00:42:14,640 We got to find Levon. 710 00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:17,180 # Ain't no more cane 711 00:42:17,180 --> 00:42:20,140 # On the Brazos 712 00:42:22,390 --> 00:42:26,310 # Ooh, ooh, ooh... # 713 00:42:28,140 --> 00:42:30,180 We tracked him down and we told him 714 00:42:30,180 --> 00:42:32,720 about the place we had, and that we were 715 00:42:32,720 --> 00:42:35,220 going to get a record deal and all of this, 716 00:42:35,220 --> 00:42:40,260 and you could hear the joy in his voice. 717 00:42:40,260 --> 00:42:42,470 # You should've been on the river 718 00:42:42,470 --> 00:42:46,970 # In 1910... # 719 00:42:46,970 --> 00:42:50,180 I remember meeting him and he was such a nice guy. 720 00:42:50,180 --> 00:42:52,220 He was such a charming person. 721 00:42:52,220 --> 00:42:54,430 There was a sense of relief 722 00:42:54,430 --> 00:42:56,310 in the band that he was back, 723 00:42:56,310 --> 00:42:59,560 and hopefully he would stay. 724 00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:02,720 LEVON: Moved into the house there, there was an extra spot for me, 725 00:43:02,720 --> 00:43:06,600 and uh, started getting' together, and just putting songs together. 726 00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:10,180 I had the sense that Levon realised he was coming back to a good thing. 727 00:43:10,180 --> 00:43:13,560 They were on a salary, they were able to make their own music. 728 00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:16,680 Woodstock was full of young people and lots of girls. 729 00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:20,720 It was better than being on an oil rig in the middle of the Gulf of Mexico. 730 00:43:20,720 --> 00:43:24,010 Robbie played the tapes that they had made - The Basement Tapes. 731 00:43:24,010 --> 00:43:25,970 # Katie's been gone 732 00:43:25,970 --> 00:43:28,060 # Since the springtime 733 00:43:28,060 --> 00:43:31,470 # She wrote one time and sent her love 734 00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:34,180 # Katie's been gone 735 00:43:34,180 --> 00:43:36,310 # For such along time now... # 736 00:43:36,310 --> 00:43:40,850 Levon's reaction was so extraordinary. 737 00:43:40,850 --> 00:43:43,640 He was blown away. 738 00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:46,470 LEVON: We had never that kind of time on our hands, 739 00:43:46,470 --> 00:43:48,260 and there we are in the... 740 00:43:48,260 --> 00:43:50,930 ..in the Catskills, and we don't have a show to play that night, 741 00:43:50,930 --> 00:43:54,060 so we were enjoying it, just sitting around, you know, 742 00:43:54,060 --> 00:43:56,220 the freedom to go down and play some music, 743 00:43:56,220 --> 00:44:00,010 or go outside and throw a football around at each other. 744 00:44:00,010 --> 00:44:01,930 That was just part of a... 745 00:44:01,930 --> 00:44:04,350 ..a lifestyle that we got to love 746 00:44:04,350 --> 00:44:07,680 in Woodstock, you know, just being able to chap wood, 747 00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:10,640 or hit your thumb with a hammer. 748 00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:13,760 We'd be concerned with fixing the tape recorder 749 00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:15,760 and getting the songs together. 750 00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:19,600 # We can talk about it now 751 00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:21,850 # It's that same old riddle 752 00:44:21,850 --> 00:44:25,180 # Only starting from the middle 753 00:44:25,180 --> 00:44:28,180 I'd fix it but I don't know how... # 754 00:44:28,180 --> 00:44:30,680 We had come out with a different sound, 755 00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:32,760 a different sensibility. 756 00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:36,600 The music didn't sound anything like what we did 757 00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:39,720 with Ronnie Hawkins, like anything we did 758 00:44:39,720 --> 00:44:41,560 as Levon and the Hawks. 759 00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:44,220 It didn't sound like anything we did 760 00:44:44,220 --> 00:44:47,350 with Bob Dylan on the infamous tour, 761 00:44:47,350 --> 00:44:51,060 so having a new name felt natural as well. 762 00:44:53,100 --> 00:44:56,930 # Pulling that eternal plough 763 00:44:56,930 --> 00:45:00,310 We've got to find a sharper blade 764 00:45:00,310 --> 00:45:02,390 # Or have a new one made... # 765 00:45:02,390 --> 00:45:04,760 In the town, people'd say, 766 00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:08,060 "Oh, those guys, they play with Bob. They're in the band." 767 00:45:08,060 --> 00:45:10,100 And we kept hearing, 768 00:45:10,100 --> 00:45:12,810 "the band," "the band," "the band." 769 00:45:12,810 --> 00:45:15,350 And it felt unpretentious, 770 00:45:15,350 --> 00:45:17,220 un-jivy, 771 00:45:17,220 --> 00:45:18,810 un-cute. 772 00:45:18,810 --> 00:45:21,680 Just strictly The Band. 773 00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:24,260 RICK: We had done a lot of pre-production work, of course, 774 00:45:24,260 --> 00:45:27,680 at Big Pink. Robbie was doing a lot of the songwriting, 775 00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:29,760 you know, and doing a lot more homework likely 776 00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:32,680 than the rest of us. It was just a question of us 777 00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:35,010 arranging them, and putting them together, 778 00:45:35,010 --> 00:45:36,890 and making them as strong as possible 779 00:45:36,890 --> 00:45:38,060 and working together. 780 00:45:39,390 --> 00:45:42,010 # We can talk about it now. # 781 00:45:43,510 --> 00:45:46,680 I came back to the house one evening. 782 00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:48,720 I thought, "I got to do some writing 783 00:45:48,720 --> 00:45:51,060 "for this record that we're working on." 784 00:45:51,060 --> 00:45:53,470 And I'm thinking, "What am I going to write about?" 785 00:45:53,470 --> 00:45:56,060 And I'm sitting there with a guitar, 786 00:45:56,060 --> 00:45:57,760 noodling around. 787 00:45:59,350 --> 00:46:03,140 I look in the guitar, and inside, 788 00:46:03,140 --> 00:46:04,850 on Martin Guitars, 789 00:46:04,850 --> 00:46:08,220 it talks about where they're made. 790 00:46:08,220 --> 00:46:11,390 And they're made in Nazareth, Pennsylvania. 791 00:46:12,890 --> 00:46:15,810 # I pulled into Nazareth... # 792 00:46:15,810 --> 00:46:18,600 And it just, it was all coming to me. 793 00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:20,810 Going from Canada 794 00:46:20,810 --> 00:46:23,060 down to the Mississippi Delta 795 00:46:23,060 --> 00:46:25,720 when I was 16 years old, 796 00:46:25,720 --> 00:46:29,560 characters and circumstances, 797 00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:32,970 all of it started to come back to me. 798 00:46:32,970 --> 00:46:35,010 And when I got to this chorus... 799 00:46:35,010 --> 00:46:37,930 HE PLAYS CHORUS TO "THE WEIGHT" 800 00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:41,680 And I could hear these voices... 801 00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:43,600 # And And 802 00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:45,100 # And 803 00:46:45,100 --> 00:46:48,640 # You put the load right on me. # 804 00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:53,140 And the whole thing just blended together. 805 00:46:53,140 --> 00:46:57,350 MUSIC: The Weight by The Band 806 00:47:03,060 --> 00:47:05,680 # I pulled into Nazareth 807 00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:09,720 # Was feelin' about half-past dead 808 00:47:09,720 --> 00:47:12,390 # I just need some place 809 00:47:12,390 --> 00:47:16,430 # Where I can lay my head 810 00:47:16,430 --> 00:47:21,510 # "Hey, mister, can you tell me where a man might find a bed?" 811 00:47:22,720 --> 00:47:25,890 # He just grinned and shook my hand 812 00:47:25,890 --> 00:47:27,760 # "No," was all he said 813 00:47:29,510 --> 00:47:32,470 # Take a load off, Fanny 814 00:47:32,470 --> 00:47:35,140 # Take a load for free... # 815 00:47:35,140 --> 00:47:37,430 We discovered a whole vocal thing 816 00:47:37,430 --> 00:47:40,060 that we weren't aware that we even had. 817 00:47:40,060 --> 00:47:41,720 # And And 818 00:47:41,720 --> 00:47:42,850 # And 819 00:47:42,850 --> 00:47:45,600 # You put the load right on me You put the load right on me... # 820 00:47:49,850 --> 00:47:51,810 I remember listening to playbacks 821 00:47:51,810 --> 00:47:55,180 after the sessions of songs and thinking, 822 00:47:55,180 --> 00:47:57,680 "I really like this stuff. 823 00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:01,060 "And...I don't have anything to compare it to, 824 00:48:01,060 --> 00:48:03,890 "but I really like it, and I hope everybody else does 825 00:48:03,890 --> 00:48:06,220 "cos I really think this is strong." 826 00:48:06,220 --> 00:48:10,720 # I said, "Hey, Carmen, come on, let's go downtown" 827 00:48:12,470 --> 00:48:17,060 # She said, "I got to go, but my friend can stick around" 828 00:48:18,810 --> 00:48:21,180 # Take a load off, Fanny 829 00:48:22,260 --> 00:48:25,390 # Take a load for free 830 00:48:25,390 --> 00:48:27,810 # Take a load off, Fanny 831 00:48:29,390 --> 00:48:31,140 # And And 832 00:48:31,140 --> 00:48:32,310 # And 833 00:48:32,310 --> 00:48:35,140 # You put the load right on me You put the load right on me... # 834 00:48:41,140 --> 00:48:45,890 I was very excited playing this record for Bob. 835 00:48:45,890 --> 00:48:48,850 He hadn't heard a note of it. 836 00:48:48,850 --> 00:48:50,640 The Weight comes on, 837 00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:52,760 he's like, "Wait a minute. Who wrote that?" 838 00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:54,760 And I said, "I... I wrote that." 839 00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:56,970 He said, "You wrote that?" 840 00:48:56,970 --> 00:49:01,430 And I could just see the pride in his eyes. 841 00:49:01,430 --> 00:49:04,100 # He said "Do me a favour, son, 842 00:49:04,100 --> 00:49:08,140 # "Won't you stay and keep Anna Lee company?" 843 00:49:08,140 --> 00:49:11,220 # Take a load off, Fanny 844 00:49:11,220 --> 00:49:13,510 # Take a load for free 845 00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:18,180 # Take a load off, Fanny 846 00:49:18,180 --> 00:49:19,930 # And And 847 00:49:19,930 --> 00:49:21,430 # And 848 00:49:21,430 --> 00:49:25,220 # You put the load right on me You put the load right on me... # 849 00:49:25,220 --> 00:49:27,180 SPRINGSTEEN: I think I was in a little coffee shop 850 00:49:27,180 --> 00:49:29,390 in Redbank, New Jersey. 851 00:49:29,390 --> 00:49:31,430 A kid came in with Music From Big Pink 852 00:49:31,430 --> 00:49:33,180 and put it on the sound system. 853 00:49:33,180 --> 00:49:35,010 It was late at night, after... 854 00:49:35,010 --> 00:49:37,180 ..after the place was about to close down, 855 00:49:37,180 --> 00:49:39,010 which was a fantastic moment 856 00:49:39,010 --> 00:49:41,760 to be introduced to that music, you know? 857 00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:44,720 And suddenly this music comes on and everything changes. 858 00:49:44,720 --> 00:49:47,680 # Fought for the party to kingdom come 859 00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:50,760 # Sadly told his only son 860 00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:53,390 # Just be careful what you do 861 00:49:53,390 --> 00:49:55,680 # It all comes back on you... # 862 00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:58,140 CLAPTON: When I heard Big Pink, it was as if someone 863 00:49:58,140 --> 00:50:00,600 had, like, nailed me through the chest to the wall. 864 00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:03,890 I was just immediately converted. 865 00:50:03,890 --> 00:50:07,350 That was when Cream was in its sort of, uh, mid-stage, 866 00:50:07,350 --> 00:50:10,140 and pretty much severed my connection with the other two 867 00:50:10,140 --> 00:50:13,470 in the band. And I thought, "This is what I want to do." 868 00:50:13,470 --> 00:50:15,350 It changed my life. 869 00:50:15,350 --> 00:50:18,350 They weren't reading out of the modern book of music. 870 00:50:18,350 --> 00:50:20,390 They went to the source. 871 00:50:20,390 --> 00:50:21,760 As you'd say in the Caribbean, 872 00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:24,890 "They was musical to the core, to the bone". 873 00:50:24,890 --> 00:50:28,100 If there was any American musicians 874 00:50:28,100 --> 00:50:31,720 that were comparable to what The Beatles were, 875 00:50:31,720 --> 00:50:33,310 It would've been them. 876 00:50:33,310 --> 00:50:36,720 # We've been sitting here for so darn long 877 00:50:36,720 --> 00:50:39,600 # Waiting for the end to come along 878 00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:41,970 # Holy roaster on the brink 879 00:50:41,970 --> 00:50:44,470 # I'd take a choice - swim or sink... # 880 00:50:46,390 --> 00:50:50,140 SPRINGSTEEN: This is the middle of psychedelic era in popular music, 881 00:50:50,140 --> 00:50:52,010 so something comes along 882 00:50:52,010 --> 00:50:55,140 that is the antithesis of where music had been moving. 883 00:50:55,140 --> 00:50:56,760 Here come all these voices 884 00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:59,640 that sound like you've never heard them before, 885 00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:02,810 and like they've always been there, forever and ever. 886 00:51:02,810 --> 00:51:07,310 # Oh, to be home again 887 00:51:07,310 --> 00:51:10,600 # Down in old Virginny 888 00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:14,390 # With my very best friend 889 00:51:14,390 --> 00:51:17,600 # They call him Ragtime Willie 890 00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:21,640 # We're going to soothe away the rest of our years 891 00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:25,760 # We're going to put away all of our tears 892 00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:30,430 # That big rockin' chair won't go nowhere... # 893 00:51:32,100 --> 00:51:34,310 It was very clear the moment I met them 894 00:51:34,310 --> 00:51:36,180 who they were and what they were about. 895 00:51:36,180 --> 00:51:37,390 They were very grounded. 896 00:51:37,390 --> 00:51:40,260 They were very strong. They were very secure. 897 00:51:40,260 --> 00:51:43,220 They were gracious, like country people are gracious, 898 00:51:43,220 --> 00:51:45,510 and they were totally in love with their music, 899 00:51:45,510 --> 00:51:47,310 and they were in love with each other. 900 00:51:47,310 --> 00:51:50,140 I never saw any jealousy, I never saw any arguments, 901 00:51:50,140 --> 00:51:51,640 I never saw them disagree. 902 00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:53,720 It was always supporting each other. 903 00:51:53,720 --> 00:51:55,220 They were five brothers, 904 00:51:55,220 --> 00:51:57,310 very clearly five brothers who loved each other, 905 00:51:57,310 --> 00:51:59,810 and I never saw anything but that. 906 00:51:59,810 --> 00:52:04,760 In the '60s, part of the rebellion was rejecting one's elders, 907 00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:06,930 rejecting one's parents. 908 00:52:06,930 --> 00:52:09,680 The guys in The Band wanted to say, 909 00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:12,260 "Hey, that's not right. We love our parents. 910 00:52:12,260 --> 00:52:16,640 "They worked very hard to bring us up and care for us." 911 00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:21,100 And so they wanted to have a picture of their families in the album. 912 00:52:21,100 --> 00:52:25,430 # Would've been nice just to see the folks 913 00:52:25,430 --> 00:52:29,600 # Listen once again to the stale old jokes 914 00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:33,760 # That big rockin' chair won't go nowhere... # 915 00:52:38,010 --> 00:52:42,100 It was a magical time within this group. 916 00:52:42,100 --> 00:52:43,470 We're getting somewhere. 917 00:52:48,470 --> 00:52:50,470 They made Big Pink and then Robbie said, 918 00:52:50,470 --> 00:52:52,850 "We want to go out on the road." 919 00:52:52,850 --> 00:52:55,970 Then Rick drove his car into a ditch... 920 00:52:58,010 --> 00:52:59,390 ..and broke his neck. 921 00:53:01,510 --> 00:53:04,890 DOMINIQUE: It was a terrible car accident. 922 00:53:04,890 --> 00:53:08,220 Rick was found wandering in the woods, 923 00:53:08,220 --> 00:53:10,720 which is pretty extraordinary for someone who has 924 00:53:10,720 --> 00:53:12,510 just broken his neck. 925 00:53:12,510 --> 00:53:17,310 He was taken to the hospital and put in traction for 926 00:53:17,310 --> 00:53:19,430 the longest time. 927 00:53:19,430 --> 00:53:21,810 We were all quite scared as to whether he would recover. 928 00:53:22,810 --> 00:53:25,430 "We're cancelling everything." 929 00:53:25,430 --> 00:53:28,260 Everything just stopped. 930 00:53:28,260 --> 00:53:31,510 Music From Big Pink becomes this thing, 931 00:53:31,510 --> 00:53:32,850 and we don't show up. 932 00:53:32,850 --> 00:53:34,470 We never play a concert. 933 00:53:34,470 --> 00:53:36,470 They're like, "Who are these guys?" 934 00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:42,600 We were becoming the most mysterious people 935 00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:44,470 in the music business. 936 00:53:45,930 --> 00:53:48,260 After we recorded Big Pink, 937 00:53:48,260 --> 00:53:50,180 there is that thing of like, 938 00:53:50,180 --> 00:53:53,560 "Whoa, what do we do now? Can we follow that up?" 939 00:53:55,850 --> 00:53:59,560 I was working day and night on musical ideas. 940 00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:02,350 Rick got out of the hospital, and then - 941 00:54:02,350 --> 00:54:05,010 boom - we were back in the studio. 942 00:54:05,010 --> 00:54:07,720 # Rag Mama rag 943 00:54:07,720 --> 00:54:10,560 # I can't believe it's true 944 00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:12,930 # Rag Mama rag... # 945 00:54:12,930 --> 00:54:15,310 You hear timeless songwriting, 946 00:54:15,310 --> 00:54:17,890 painting pictures and telling stories. 947 00:54:17,890 --> 00:54:22,430 A cohesion which is greater than the sum of the parts. 948 00:54:22,430 --> 00:54:24,600 They were the very first band 949 00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:26,640 who got it together in a country house, 950 00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:28,760 which became a big thing. 951 00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:31,010 When you shut out the rest of the world 952 00:54:31,010 --> 00:54:33,640 and the city, and just concentrate on... 953 00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:37,310 ..music-making and performing and each other, 954 00:54:37,310 --> 00:54:39,430 you get a different sort of result. 955 00:54:40,970 --> 00:54:43,720 # Up on Cripple Creek She sends me 956 00:54:43,720 --> 00:54:45,310 # If I spring a leak... # 957 00:54:45,310 --> 00:54:48,310 Taking some of that roots music, 958 00:54:48,310 --> 00:54:50,220 a little bit of Muddy Waters, 959 00:54:50,220 --> 00:54:52,220 a little bit of Hank Williams, 960 00:54:52,220 --> 00:54:54,510 no long guitar solos, 961 00:54:54,510 --> 00:54:56,810 it was just simple, straightforward music. 962 00:54:56,810 --> 00:54:59,220 Nowadays we call it Americana. 963 00:55:03,970 --> 00:55:05,430 I was in Boston. 964 00:55:05,430 --> 00:55:08,430 I was sleeping on a coach, and it was I Shall Be Released 965 00:55:08,430 --> 00:55:10,680 was what came on. 966 00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:13,350 I thought, "Oh yeah, there's...there's something... 967 00:55:13,350 --> 00:55:15,100 "I'm connecting with something here." 968 00:55:15,100 --> 00:55:16,560 That's what I thought. 969 00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:19,430 I got an impression there was a lot of mythology going on. 970 00:55:19,430 --> 00:55:24,010 # Standin' by your window in pain 971 00:55:25,220 --> 00:55:27,640 # A pistol in your hand... # 972 00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:30,510 You'd never really heard a sound like that. 973 00:55:30,510 --> 00:55:33,970 It also it reminded me greatly of 19th century literature, 974 00:55:33,970 --> 00:55:35,470 American literature. 975 00:55:35,470 --> 00:55:39,850 # Try and understand your man the best you can 976 00:55:39,850 --> 00:55:43,060 # Across the great divide 977 00:55:43,060 --> 00:55:45,350 # Just grab your hat 978 00:55:45,350 --> 00:55:48,220 # And take that ride... # 979 00:55:48,220 --> 00:55:49,810 Particularly Melville. 980 00:55:49,810 --> 00:55:53,760 There's something about the Melville stories, and the sense of... 981 00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:57,140 ..searching The Band brings to mind for me. 982 00:55:57,140 --> 00:56:00,310 Each song is like a little John Steinbeck novel. 983 00:56:00,310 --> 00:56:02,850 Steinbeck also gives you these images of America, 984 00:56:02,850 --> 00:56:04,560 of dust bowl America. 985 00:56:08,060 --> 00:56:11,970 # Unfaithful servant 986 00:56:11,970 --> 00:56:13,850 # I hear you... # 987 00:56:13,850 --> 00:56:15,970 I spent quite a bit of time with The Band, 988 00:56:15,970 --> 00:56:18,220 and one of the things that Robbie said to me 989 00:56:18,220 --> 00:56:20,430 was the fact that when he wrote a tune, 990 00:56:20,430 --> 00:56:22,600 he had all these different singers who could sing the song. 991 00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:25,890 And he could write lyrics, like, to write a song 992 00:56:25,890 --> 00:56:27,930 knowing that Levon was going to sing it. 993 00:56:27,930 --> 00:56:29,430 You know, you could be... 994 00:56:29,430 --> 00:56:30,720 ..you could write much different 995 00:56:30,720 --> 00:56:33,100 to knowing if you were going to have to do it yourself. 996 00:56:33,100 --> 00:56:36,600 # Or did you do it just for the glory...? # 997 00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:39,140 When they came together, something happened 998 00:56:39,140 --> 00:56:42,470 that could not have occurred on their own or individually. 999 00:56:42,470 --> 00:56:44,760 You know, something... 1000 00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:46,180 ..miraculous occurred. 1001 00:56:47,430 --> 00:56:49,760 # She really cared 1002 00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:51,930 # The time she spared... # 1003 00:56:57,220 --> 00:57:02,470 We were booked to play our first job as The Band at Winterland, 1004 00:57:02,470 --> 00:57:05,850 in San Francisco, with Bill Graham presenting. 1005 00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:12,010 We went up to San Francisco, like, two days early. 1006 00:57:12,010 --> 00:57:14,430 Robbie is sick as a dog. 1007 00:57:14,430 --> 00:57:18,390 I'm completely drained. 1008 00:57:18,390 --> 00:57:22,390 And it hits me - the last time we played together 1009 00:57:22,390 --> 00:57:25,720 everybody boos us everywhere we go, right? 1010 00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:30,060 Am I having some kind of stage fright thing? 1011 00:57:30,060 --> 00:57:33,180 He's got a fever of 103. 1012 00:57:33,180 --> 00:57:36,890 I'm saying to Bill Graham, "We've got to cancel. I'm sorry." 1013 00:57:36,890 --> 00:57:40,180 Bill Graham says, "Impossible. 1014 00:57:40,180 --> 00:57:43,560 "There is no way in the world that we can cancel this." 1015 00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:45,760 And finally Bill says, 1016 00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:51,140 "What do you think about the idea of us bringing in a hypnotist?" 1017 00:57:54,310 --> 00:57:57,310 A little guy, about 5'8", 1018 00:57:57,310 --> 00:58:00,220 black suit, white carnation, shows up, 1019 00:58:00,220 --> 00:58:01,970 and he puts him under. 1020 00:58:03,470 --> 00:58:08,560 And he's saying, "Your stomach will feel as calm as a lake. 1021 00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:12,060 "Your head feels as cool as a winter breeze." 1022 00:58:14,010 --> 00:58:17,720 The next thing I know, my head doesn't feel so bad. 1023 00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:19,640 And I'm thinking, 1024 00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:21,350 "I'll be damned, 1025 00:58:21,350 --> 00:58:27,350 I'm actually feeling stronger and better than I was before." 1026 00:58:27,350 --> 00:58:31,310 He says, "Any time you start to feel too weak, 1027 00:58:31,310 --> 00:58:37,470 you look over at me and I'm going to say to you, 'Grow.'" 1028 00:58:37,470 --> 00:58:42,140 MUSIC: Chest Fever by The Band 1029 00:58:58,430 --> 00:59:01,310 CHEERING 1030 00:59:10,350 --> 00:59:15,100 And the crowd is yelling, and we're playing. 1031 00:59:15,100 --> 00:59:18,350 And I look over at him and he goes, 1032 00:59:18,350 --> 00:59:19,470 "Grow." 1033 00:59:21,100 --> 00:59:24,180 This guy had to be onstage with Robbie. 1034 00:59:24,180 --> 00:59:27,180 This was the first concert I'd ever experienced with them, so... 1035 00:59:27,180 --> 00:59:28,930 ..what did I know? 1036 00:59:28,930 --> 00:59:32,060 But I know that usually there's not a hypnotist onstage. 1037 00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:38,350 Everybody got their own starring moment. 1038 00:59:38,350 --> 00:59:40,010 Rick had his songs. 1039 00:59:40,010 --> 00:59:42,430 Garth got to do Chest Fever, 1040 00:59:42,430 --> 00:59:44,640 and Richard was brilliant. 1041 00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:48,640 So in those first year and a half, it was amazing. 1042 00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:50,470 # Can't be here no more 1043 00:59:51,470 --> 00:59:55,720 # And as my mind unweaves 1044 00:59:55,720 --> 01:00:00,850 # I feel the freeze down in my knees 1045 01:00:00,850 --> 01:00:05,310 # But just before she leaves 1046 01:00:05,310 --> 01:00:08,390 # She receives... # 1047 01:00:10,470 --> 01:00:13,060 Well, when we first went out on tour, 1048 01:00:13,060 --> 01:00:16,060 they were famous because of their relationship with Bob Dylan, 1049 01:00:16,060 --> 01:00:18,680 but here they were now as themselves. 1050 01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:22,680 This was THE Band. That brought about a fame 1051 01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:24,970 to them that they had never had before. 1052 01:00:24,970 --> 01:00:26,890 Folks, The Band. 1053 01:00:26,890 --> 01:00:29,560 CHEERING 1054 01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:32,350 MUSIC: Slippin' And Slidin' by The Band 1055 01:00:46,930 --> 01:00:50,140 # Slippin' and slidin' Peekin' and hidin' 1056 01:00:50,140 --> 01:00:53,220 # Been told along time ago... # 1057 01:00:53,220 --> 01:00:55,930 And I got the chance to go and meet Robbie. 1058 01:00:55,930 --> 01:00:58,310 And I went up to Woodstock to hang with him. 1059 01:00:58,310 --> 01:01:01,140 And the reason I went up there was to pluck up the nerve 1060 01:01:01,140 --> 01:01:03,350 to ask him if I could join The Band. 1061 01:01:03,350 --> 01:01:05,760 Maybe they needed a rhythm guitar player! 1062 01:01:13,430 --> 01:01:15,600 And I was wearing pink boots 1063 01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:18,680 and I had curly hair, just psychedelic. 1064 01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:21,850 And they were kind of really earthy. 1065 01:01:21,850 --> 01:01:23,760 And I was saying, "Well, let's jam." 1066 01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:25,180 And he said, "We don't jam." 1067 01:01:25,180 --> 01:01:27,010 So it was a songwriting outfit. 1068 01:01:28,850 --> 01:01:31,390 # I work for the union... # 1069 01:01:31,390 --> 01:01:33,220 Robbie's listening to the way 1070 01:01:33,220 --> 01:01:35,180 that each of them play, but the way they worked 1071 01:01:35,180 --> 01:01:37,140 as a unit was, like, incredible. 1072 01:01:37,140 --> 01:01:39,010 Rick was pretty dynamic, 1073 01:01:39,010 --> 01:01:40,930 and he was a very powerful energy. 1074 01:01:40,930 --> 01:01:42,640 Garth was shy, 1075 01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:45,220 and I fell in love with Richard. 1076 01:01:45,220 --> 01:01:48,810 He was the most mournful, soulful thing I'd ever heard. 1077 01:01:48,810 --> 01:01:51,720 # Last year this time wasn't no joke 1078 01:01:53,390 --> 01:01:56,560 # My whole barn went up in smoke 1079 01:01:58,100 --> 01:02:02,310 # And our horse, Jethro he went mad 1080 01:02:02,310 --> 01:02:06,310 # And I can't ever remember things being that bad... # 1081 01:02:07,720 --> 01:02:10,350 God, Richard was 1082 01:02:10,350 --> 01:02:12,720 such a sensitive man. 1083 01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:15,010 Like a wounded bird. 1084 01:02:15,010 --> 01:02:17,930 But a beautiful, beautiful soul. 1085 01:02:18,850 --> 01:02:20,510 He was very fragile, 1086 01:02:20,510 --> 01:02:22,680 and we liked to drink together. 1087 01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:26,470 When you put us together, there was an instant bond. 1088 01:02:26,470 --> 01:02:29,180 Robbie, in a way, was kind of outside of that 1089 01:02:29,180 --> 01:02:31,470 because I saw Robbie as the straight guy. 1090 01:02:31,470 --> 01:02:34,060 He was a guy who we could drink with, 1091 01:02:34,060 --> 01:02:36,810 but at some point, he would lose interest in that, 1092 01:02:36,810 --> 01:02:39,220 you know, whereas me and Richard were the kind of people 1093 01:02:39,220 --> 01:02:41,890 that we would like to drink together, but we'd drink... 1094 01:02:41,890 --> 01:02:43,760 ..we liked drinking even more on our own. 1095 01:02:47,180 --> 01:02:49,220 Just when The Band was really hitting, 1096 01:02:49,220 --> 01:02:53,680 the difference between Robbie and the rest of the band 1097 01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:57,180 was his family was incredibly important to him. 1098 01:02:57,180 --> 01:02:58,970 He already had a baby. 1099 01:02:58,970 --> 01:03:02,310 Dominique was this incredibly vital, 1100 01:03:02,310 --> 01:03:05,140 smart woman that he liked hanging with. 1101 01:03:05,140 --> 01:03:07,260 She was incredibly beautiful. 1102 01:03:07,260 --> 01:03:08,970 And the rest of the guys 1103 01:03:08,970 --> 01:03:12,810 were still trying to figure out did they want a family or not? 1104 01:03:12,810 --> 01:03:16,060 And they were consuming a lot of drugs, 1105 01:03:16,060 --> 01:03:17,560 playing a lot, 1106 01:03:17,560 --> 01:03:19,970 drinking too much, you know, everything else. 1107 01:03:21,100 --> 01:03:23,350 In Woodstock, it was... 1108 01:03:23,350 --> 01:03:26,140 ..at one point, car accidents. 1109 01:03:26,140 --> 01:03:28,390 And the phone ringing in the middle of the night 1110 01:03:28,390 --> 01:03:31,510 to say this one or that one had totalled the car 1111 01:03:31,510 --> 01:03:32,850 or was in the ditch. 1112 01:03:35,220 --> 01:03:37,470 Rick, he was lucky, you know, 1113 01:03:37,470 --> 01:03:39,890 but it became far too often 1114 01:03:39,890 --> 01:03:43,010 that there were situations like that. 1115 01:03:45,140 --> 01:03:47,890 I had this Mustang 1116 01:03:47,890 --> 01:03:50,310 that Robbie had bought, 1117 01:03:50,310 --> 01:03:53,060 and Richard wanted to drive it. 1118 01:03:53,060 --> 01:03:55,510 I said, "Really, can you do it?" 1119 01:03:55,510 --> 01:03:59,100 And he said, "Well, I sober up behind the wheel." 1120 01:04:01,470 --> 01:04:03,850 And I said, "Please, don't go so fast," 1121 01:04:03,850 --> 01:04:05,680 you know, "Can you see? Can you see?" 1122 01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:08,220 And he said, "Oh, I can see like a lynx." 1123 01:04:11,140 --> 01:04:14,100 You know, and I was naive, frankly. 1124 01:04:14,100 --> 01:04:16,390 We hit this curve, 1125 01:04:16,390 --> 01:04:18,510 and it was like every... 1126 01:04:18,510 --> 01:04:21,060 ..hit every cement pole in the curve. 1127 01:04:23,260 --> 01:04:24,680 We ended up in the ditch. 1128 01:04:26,390 --> 01:04:28,220 Then Richard lit a match. 1129 01:04:30,220 --> 01:04:32,470 And I thought, "You're going to blow the car. 1130 01:04:32,470 --> 01:04:35,100 "We have to get out and push. Get out. Get out." 1131 01:04:38,180 --> 01:04:42,390 We were at Big Pink and somebody came rushing up and said, 1132 01:04:42,390 --> 01:04:45,560 "Richard's just had an accident and he's crashed a new car." 1133 01:04:45,560 --> 01:04:48,970 Levon you know, jumps into his Corvette 1134 01:04:48,970 --> 01:04:50,810 and rushes to the scene, 1135 01:04:50,810 --> 01:04:53,260 and accidentally crashes into the police car. 1136 01:04:56,010 --> 01:04:58,890 The cop threw Levon on the back of a car. 1137 01:04:58,890 --> 01:05:00,560 I think they handcuffed him. 1138 01:05:00,560 --> 01:05:03,760 I don't know how long it took me, you know, 1139 01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:05,970 to really absorb the shock. 1140 01:05:08,930 --> 01:05:12,510 Richard could've killed Dominique. 1141 01:05:12,510 --> 01:05:13,970 What do you say? 1142 01:05:13,970 --> 01:05:15,350 It pissed me off. 1143 01:05:16,810 --> 01:05:19,760 But it was something that we weren't educated in 1144 01:05:19,760 --> 01:05:23,430 at the time, of dealing with alcoholism. 1145 01:05:23,430 --> 01:05:26,720 And all the things that you think you should do 1146 01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:30,760 is mostly the things that you should absolutely not do. 1147 01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:34,140 # My biggest mistake was loving you too much 1148 01:05:34,140 --> 01:05:36,010 # And letting you know 1149 01:05:37,100 --> 01:05:39,640 # Now you've got me where you want me 1150 01:05:39,640 --> 01:05:42,310 # And you won't let me go 1151 01:05:42,310 --> 01:05:45,430 # If my heart was made of glass 1152 01:05:45,430 --> 01:05:47,390 # Well, then you'd surely see... # 1153 01:05:47,390 --> 01:05:49,350 And after that, there was a whole period 1154 01:05:49,350 --> 01:05:51,600 where he didn't hardly drink at all. 1155 01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:54,350 So we were holding it at bay. 1156 01:05:54,350 --> 01:05:57,510 MUSIC: Don't Do It by The Band 1157 01:06:25,560 --> 01:06:28,970 CHEERING 1158 01:06:28,970 --> 01:06:33,760 By this point, there was an experimenting going on 1159 01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:36,560 that led to heroin. 1160 01:06:36,560 --> 01:06:40,560 And I was confused that the guys wanted 1161 01:06:40,560 --> 01:06:42,850 to play with that fire. 1162 01:06:44,390 --> 01:06:46,510 That was devastating. 1163 01:06:46,510 --> 01:06:50,220 Nobody had any understanding of addiction, 1164 01:06:50,220 --> 01:06:52,930 that it's a mental disorder. 1165 01:06:52,930 --> 01:06:56,260 And at the time it felt very much like a betrayal. 1166 01:06:57,560 --> 01:07:00,600 Robbie might've used, he might've drank, 1167 01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:04,930 he might've tried different things, but he did not have that gene 1168 01:07:04,930 --> 01:07:08,470 that would cause him to become an addict. 1169 01:07:10,680 --> 01:07:13,720 He had a vision, and nothing was going to get in the way 1170 01:07:13,720 --> 01:07:15,970 of the vision. 1171 01:07:15,970 --> 01:07:20,260 If you think about the summer of 1969 into '70, 1172 01:07:20,260 --> 01:07:25,430 Music from Big Pink, I think Robbie wrote less than half the songs. 1173 01:07:25,430 --> 01:07:29,640 By the Brown Album, he wrote maybe two-thirds of the songs. 1174 01:07:29,640 --> 01:07:33,180 By Stage Fright, he was writing all of the songs. 1175 01:07:33,180 --> 01:07:36,260 And it wasn't that he wanted to do that. 1176 01:07:36,260 --> 01:07:38,510 Robbie would start writing, like, 1177 01:07:38,510 --> 01:07:40,470 at ten in the morning. 1178 01:07:40,470 --> 01:07:45,310 And, to be honest, Levon and Rick and Richard were still asleep. 1179 01:07:45,310 --> 01:07:48,430 I loved writing with Richard. 1180 01:07:48,430 --> 01:07:51,640 Richard had a beautiful, melodic ear, 1181 01:07:51,640 --> 01:07:54,140 and he would come up with chord changes 1182 01:07:54,140 --> 01:07:55,640 I would never find. 1183 01:07:55,640 --> 01:08:01,430 But somehow it just wasn't happening for him, 1184 01:08:01,430 --> 01:08:06,720 and if I pushed too hard it made him feel bad. 1185 01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:09,470 With Richard, it was really poignant. 1186 01:08:09,470 --> 01:08:12,310 I very clearly remember Robbie pleading with Richard, you know, 1187 01:08:12,310 --> 01:08:15,640 asking him, "Do you have anything, anything to add to this song?" 1188 01:08:15,640 --> 01:08:17,310 But Richard just didn't have it. 1189 01:08:17,310 --> 01:08:19,100 He didn't have anything to offer. 1190 01:08:20,470 --> 01:08:23,430 It was up to Robbie and Garth, primarily, 1191 01:08:23,430 --> 01:08:26,850 to keep driving the basic creative force, 1192 01:08:26,850 --> 01:08:30,810 and hoping that their friends would keep on. 1193 01:08:32,310 --> 01:08:34,390 During the recording of Stage Fright, 1194 01:08:34,390 --> 01:08:36,310 heroin was being used. 1195 01:08:36,310 --> 01:08:40,430 It had an effect on their energy, their ability to be present. 1196 01:08:40,430 --> 01:08:43,430 Levon would sometimes be nodded out upstairs, 1197 01:08:43,430 --> 01:08:45,140 and it was a little sad, you know, 1198 01:08:45,140 --> 01:08:47,890 because he would come down and you could still see a look 1199 01:08:47,890 --> 01:08:50,180 in his eye that was a little strange, 1200 01:08:50,180 --> 01:08:51,720 and it was... It was difficult. 1201 01:08:53,510 --> 01:08:56,810 This is very different from the very energetic Levon 1202 01:08:56,810 --> 01:08:59,560 that I used to know, who was always very wiry, 1203 01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:01,560 always up for action, 1204 01:09:01,560 --> 01:09:03,640 up for going after it, whatever it may be. 1205 01:09:05,100 --> 01:09:06,970 And now it was sort of like sleepy time. 1206 01:09:06,970 --> 01:09:08,470 That's not easy to deal with. 1207 01:09:09,890 --> 01:09:12,810 It's hard to connect with somebody who's doing that. 1208 01:09:12,810 --> 01:09:14,850 It's hard to trust. 1209 01:09:14,850 --> 01:09:18,600 It's hard to really keep a friendship going. 1210 01:09:18,600 --> 01:09:22,140 It was beginning to feel like a real fracture. 1211 01:09:23,930 --> 01:09:26,060 One day I said to Levon, 1212 01:09:26,060 --> 01:09:29,220 "I can see what's going on. I know you." 1213 01:09:29,220 --> 01:09:33,260 And he was doing the junkie denial, 1214 01:09:33,260 --> 01:09:36,850 and explaining and explaining and making excuses 1215 01:09:36,850 --> 01:09:40,010 and laughing and slapping me on the back. 1216 01:09:40,010 --> 01:09:43,350 And I'd never had this kind of an encounter with him before. 1217 01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:46,970 We don't do that. 1218 01:09:46,970 --> 01:09:48,680 We don't lie to one another. 1219 01:09:51,220 --> 01:09:53,890 I still loved him, 1220 01:09:53,890 --> 01:09:57,890 but something got broken in that. 1221 01:09:57,890 --> 01:10:02,760 And it was like glass - it was hard to put back together again. 1222 01:10:04,510 --> 01:10:06,890 It was not just an exasperation. 1223 01:10:06,890 --> 01:10:10,220 It was a feeling that Robbie could lose everything. 1224 01:10:11,510 --> 01:10:14,970 That brotherhood, That brotherhood, that friendship, 1225 01:10:14,970 --> 01:10:18,470 that bond, that love that they had for each other. 1226 01:10:18,470 --> 01:10:20,010 They were terrific guys. 1227 01:10:20,010 --> 01:10:22,850 I loved them myself, I loved them myself, all of them, 1228 01:10:22,850 --> 01:10:25,720 but when you begin to function out of fear 1229 01:10:25,720 --> 01:10:29,220 of losing something, it's maddening. 1230 01:10:29,220 --> 01:10:32,640 I think I wanted something that I couldn't have, 1231 01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:35,890 which was normalcy and a regular schedule. 1232 01:10:35,890 --> 01:10:40,220 After the children were born, my focus changed entirely. 1233 01:10:40,220 --> 01:10:42,390 MUSIC: All La Glory by The Band 1234 01:10:42,390 --> 01:10:44,970 # Climb up your ladder now 1235 01:10:47,140 --> 01:10:51,430 # It's time for you to dream away 1236 01:10:54,060 --> 01:10:57,510 # For what a big day you've been through... # 1237 01:10:59,010 --> 01:11:03,100 ROBBIE: Our children were elevating my life. 1238 01:11:03,100 --> 01:11:08,430 They were making everything have a beautiful aura around it, 1239 01:11:08,430 --> 01:11:11,350 except when I had to go to work, 1240 01:11:11,350 --> 01:11:17,140 and then this darkness, this cloud, came back overhead. 1241 01:11:17,140 --> 01:11:20,640 My family was my saving grace. 1242 01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:26,260 # And keep the little one safe and warm 1243 01:11:26,260 --> 01:11:30,220 # Cos to her it's just a fantasy 1244 01:11:31,720 --> 01:11:36,760 # And to me it's all a mystery... # 1245 01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:41,010 ROBBIE: I had to go from Woodstock out to Los Angeles, 1246 01:11:41,010 --> 01:11:45,680 and while I was out there I got a message that this guy 1247 01:11:45,680 --> 01:11:50,430 who had a record company wanted to meet with me, 1248 01:11:50,430 --> 01:11:53,010 and his name was David Geffen. 1249 01:11:53,010 --> 01:11:55,970 MUSIC: Free Man In Paris by Joni Mitchell 1250 01:12:01,310 --> 01:12:04,310 # "The way I see it," he said 1251 01:12:04,310 --> 01:12:07,060 # "You just can't win it... # 1252 01:12:07,060 --> 01:12:10,430 In every band, there is someone who ends up being the leader 1253 01:12:10,430 --> 01:12:11,810 one way or the other. 1254 01:12:11,810 --> 01:12:13,810 And usually the star is the lead singer. 1255 01:12:13,810 --> 01:12:15,510 In The Band, it wasn't. 1256 01:12:15,510 --> 01:12:16,810 Robbie's a star. 1257 01:12:16,810 --> 01:12:18,100 You put him in any group, 1258 01:12:18,100 --> 01:12:21,390 Robbie'll start talking and telling stories and performing, 1259 01:12:21,390 --> 01:12:23,510 and he's a star. 1260 01:12:23,510 --> 01:12:28,220 David Geffen was a manager, a record executive. 1261 01:12:28,220 --> 01:12:32,350 He thought if he could get Bob Dylan to his record company, 1262 01:12:32,350 --> 01:12:37,010 that would cement him as the king of the music business. 1263 01:12:37,010 --> 01:12:40,850 David saw Robbie as a way to make that happen. 1264 01:12:40,850 --> 01:12:43,430 He started romancing Robbie. 1265 01:12:46,010 --> 01:12:49,010 David was incredibly candid, 1266 01:12:49,010 --> 01:12:51,680 incredibly straightforward. 1267 01:12:51,680 --> 01:12:53,430 And back in Woodstock, 1268 01:12:53,430 --> 01:12:58,180 in the world of Albert Grossman and of Bob Dylan, 1269 01:12:58,180 --> 01:13:00,720 a lot was left unsaid. 1270 01:13:00,720 --> 01:13:04,810 There was something about meeting with David that was so open. 1271 01:13:04,810 --> 01:13:06,810 I remember saying to Robbie, 1272 01:13:06,810 --> 01:13:10,470 "Of all the places you could live, why pick Woodstock? 1273 01:13:10,470 --> 01:13:12,890 "Because Albert Grossman lives here?" 1274 01:13:12,890 --> 01:13:15,850 I thought it was a shithole. I mean, I hated it. 1275 01:13:15,850 --> 01:13:19,140 I suggested to Robbie that he move to Malibu. 1276 01:13:19,140 --> 01:13:22,180 # I was a free man in Paris # I was a free man in Paris 1277 01:13:22,180 --> 01:13:24,810 # I felt unfettered and alive # I felt unfettered and alive 1278 01:13:24,810 --> 01:13:28,060 # There was nobody calling me up for favours 1279 01:13:28,060 --> 01:13:30,850 # And no one's future to decide... # 1280 01:13:30,850 --> 01:13:34,890 If you could imagine, that move to Malibu, site unseen, 1281 01:13:34,890 --> 01:13:37,560 and it was another Twilight Zone experiment, 1282 01:13:37,560 --> 01:13:39,930 you know, for me. 1283 01:13:39,930 --> 01:13:42,510 I guess for all of us. 1284 01:13:42,510 --> 01:13:43,970 Robbie loved it. 1285 01:13:54,260 --> 01:13:57,390 It did feel like something fresh. 1286 01:13:57,390 --> 01:13:59,970 He woke up every morning at the ocean. 1287 01:13:59,970 --> 01:14:02,470 His kids loved it, his wife loved it. 1288 01:14:02,470 --> 01:14:04,720 You know, I remember Robbie saying to me, 1289 01:14:04,720 --> 01:14:07,010 "What the fuck was I doing in Woodstock?" 1290 01:14:08,560 --> 01:14:11,180 I was like, "I'm going to call the guys and tell them 1291 01:14:11,180 --> 01:14:12,600 "to come out here." 1292 01:14:23,390 --> 01:14:25,680 I thought it would be very stimulating for Robbie, 1293 01:14:25,680 --> 01:14:27,680 I thought it would be stimulating for the band, 1294 01:14:27,680 --> 01:14:29,140 and Bob was there. 1295 01:14:29,140 --> 01:14:31,600 Robbie was the one who suggested I meet him. 1296 01:14:31,600 --> 01:14:34,760 The next thing, David Geffen is saying, 1297 01:14:34,760 --> 01:14:40,470 "You know, it might be a great idea for Bob Dylan and The Band 1298 01:14:40,470 --> 01:14:43,640 "to play together again, and do a tour." 1299 01:14:45,560 --> 01:14:49,510 MUSIC: Endless Highway by Bob Dylan and The Band 1300 01:15:03,970 --> 01:15:07,140 Bob had basically been in hiding in Woodstock 1301 01:15:07,140 --> 01:15:09,760 since the tour of '66. 1302 01:15:09,760 --> 01:15:13,180 David somehow managed to convince Bob 1303 01:15:13,180 --> 01:15:14,760 to come out on the road. 1304 01:15:14,760 --> 01:15:16,510 No-one had seen Bob for years. 1305 01:15:16,510 --> 01:15:18,100 It created quite a stir. 1306 01:15:18,100 --> 01:15:20,260 It was what David Geffen wanted. 1307 01:15:20,260 --> 01:15:24,350 David was just pure, unleashed ambition. 1308 01:15:24,350 --> 01:15:28,350 # You're going to walk that endless highway 1309 01:15:32,310 --> 01:15:35,140 # Walk that highway till you die... # 1310 01:15:36,510 --> 01:15:41,010 ROBBIE: The last time we played together, in 1966, 1311 01:15:41,010 --> 01:15:43,680 it wasn't very well received. 1312 01:15:43,680 --> 01:15:50,060 Now we go out - it was embraced like the second coming. 1313 01:15:51,560 --> 01:15:55,510 MUSIC: Knockin' On Heaven's Door by Bob Dylan and The Band 1314 01:15:57,180 --> 01:15:59,060 We didn't change a thing. 1315 01:15:59,060 --> 01:16:00,760 The world changed. 1316 01:16:00,760 --> 01:16:03,220 It was kind of a good feeling. 1317 01:16:03,220 --> 01:16:06,060 # Mama, take this badge off of me 1318 01:16:06,060 --> 01:16:09,970 CHEERING 1319 01:16:09,970 --> 01:16:12,680 # I can't use it anymore... # 1320 01:16:13,810 --> 01:16:18,350 I had signed The Band and Bob Dylan to Asylum Records. 1321 01:16:18,350 --> 01:16:20,350 I had a handshake agreement with them, 1322 01:16:20,350 --> 01:16:21,810 because Bob Dylan said to me, 1323 01:16:21,810 --> 01:16:23,680 "Is my word good for you?" 1324 01:16:23,680 --> 01:16:26,510 And I thought, "Bob Dylan, he wrote Blowin' In The Wind 1325 01:16:26,510 --> 01:16:29,890 "and The Times They Are A-Changin'. Yeah, I'll take your word." 1326 01:16:29,890 --> 01:16:33,010 # Knock, knock, knockin' on heaven's door 1327 01:16:36,140 --> 01:16:40,010 # Knock, knock, knockin' on heaven's door 1328 01:16:40,010 --> 01:16:42,350 What I remember What I remember very clearly, 1329 01:16:42,350 --> 01:16:47,180 after the tour of '74 they went on tour as The Band, 1330 01:16:47,180 --> 01:16:48,850 and not with Bob Dylan. 1331 01:16:48,850 --> 01:16:52,220 MUSIC: The Shape I'm In by Bob Dylan and The Band 1332 01:16:56,220 --> 01:17:00,140 # Go out yonder, peace in the valley 1333 01:17:00,140 --> 01:17:03,680 # Come downtown, have to rumble in the alley 1334 01:17:03,680 --> 01:17:08,350 # Oh, you don't know the shape I'm in... # 1335 01:17:11,470 --> 01:17:15,890 After a while touring, it was very noticeable that 1336 01:17:15,890 --> 01:17:18,890 there was change afoot. 1337 01:17:18,890 --> 01:17:22,930 # Oh, you don't know the shape I'm in... # 1338 01:17:24,220 --> 01:17:27,010 We played a gig in Cleveland... 1339 01:17:28,100 --> 01:17:31,470 APPLAUSE AND CHEERING 1340 01:17:31,470 --> 01:17:34,930 ..Richard had been doing heroin, 1341 01:17:34,930 --> 01:17:37,600 and apparently he lost his stash. 1342 01:17:37,600 --> 01:17:39,100 Sorry about the delay. 1343 01:17:39,100 --> 01:17:42,260 Richard Manuel, the pianist, has taken ill. 1344 01:17:42,260 --> 01:17:44,060 He's being taken care of backstage. 1345 01:17:44,060 --> 01:17:46,600 The Band is going to go on in a few minutes without Richard. 1346 01:17:46,600 --> 01:17:47,930 Hopefully he'll be fine. 1347 01:17:49,850 --> 01:17:52,220 They actually played the concert 1348 01:17:52,220 --> 01:17:55,220 They actually played the concert as a quartet, without Richard, 1349 01:17:55,220 --> 01:17:57,510 as a quartet, without Richard, and it sounded so strange. 1350 01:17:57,510 --> 01:18:00,850 I kept seeing a lot of looks between everybody. 1351 01:18:00,850 --> 01:18:04,100 Obviously very uncomfortable with this. 1352 01:18:04,100 --> 01:18:07,600 # Over by the wildwood 1353 01:18:07,600 --> 01:18:10,510 # Hot summer night... # 1354 01:18:10,510 --> 01:18:13,140 These guys were soldiers, 1355 01:18:13,140 --> 01:18:16,890 but Richard Manuel had a disease. 1356 01:18:16,890 --> 01:18:20,100 This band was a real band. 1357 01:18:20,100 --> 01:18:24,510 All those spark plugs needed to be ignited, 1358 01:18:24,510 --> 01:18:26,220 or it didn't work. 1359 01:18:26,220 --> 01:18:29,600 # But a young man serves his country 1360 01:18:29,600 --> 01:18:32,850 # An old man guards the home... # 1361 01:18:32,850 --> 01:18:34,970 At first it was Richard holding everybody back. 1362 01:18:34,970 --> 01:18:36,560 He wasn't able to play. 1363 01:18:36,560 --> 01:18:38,680 And that's why they called me out there, to try to 1364 01:18:38,680 --> 01:18:39,930 scare Richard straight. 1365 01:18:39,930 --> 01:18:42,220 Everybody - all of them, it was - 1366 01:18:42,220 --> 01:18:45,760 good, young, honest, solid guys, all of 'em. 1367 01:18:45,760 --> 01:18:49,350 Two or three years later, they were different personalities, just about. 1368 01:18:49,350 --> 01:18:53,810 # Don't leave me alone in the twilight... # 1369 01:18:53,810 --> 01:18:57,970 The rhythm section had definitely fallen into heavier drugs. 1370 01:18:57,970 --> 01:19:01,560 And once again, it was up to Robbie and Garth, primarily. 1371 01:19:05,810 --> 01:19:07,930 Levon was doing things that he would've never done 1372 01:19:07,930 --> 01:19:10,220 in a million years, if it hadn't been for drugs. 1373 01:19:15,970 --> 01:19:19,560 Levon often complained about our lawyer, 1374 01:19:19,560 --> 01:19:24,640 about our manager, and it was a kind of paranoia. 1375 01:19:24,640 --> 01:19:30,760 I would often say, "Don't worry, if anybody is taking advantage of us, 1376 01:19:30,760 --> 01:19:33,260 "we are going to stop that immediately." 1377 01:19:34,510 --> 01:19:37,100 But a bitterness set in with him. 1378 01:19:39,220 --> 01:19:42,430 Levon felt something was being taken away, you know? 1379 01:19:42,430 --> 01:19:46,010 But families, man, nobody can feud like a family. 1380 01:19:46,010 --> 01:19:48,680 Families can go to the grave feuding. 1381 01:19:49,890 --> 01:19:52,720 If a person is getting a little more attention, 1382 01:19:52,720 --> 01:19:55,850 resentment can set in, you know, and jealousy. 1383 01:19:57,220 --> 01:20:01,510 Robbie kept moving forward, and not everybody could follow. 1384 01:20:06,970 --> 01:20:08,930 ROBBIE: This is different now. 1385 01:20:08,930 --> 01:20:10,640 This is hard. 1386 01:20:10,640 --> 01:20:12,260 This is kind of painful. 1387 01:20:14,180 --> 01:20:17,010 This could be tragic. 1388 01:20:17,010 --> 01:20:23,220 # Don't leave me alone in the twilight... # 1389 01:20:23,220 --> 01:20:25,760 I don't know why we're doing this. 1390 01:20:30,930 --> 01:20:33,260 Robbie told me he just didn't want to go on the road 1391 01:20:33,260 --> 01:20:35,220 with a suitcase full of heroin. 1392 01:20:35,220 --> 01:20:38,680 Robbie was planning the next step in his life. 1393 01:20:38,680 --> 01:20:41,640 I've always had that sense, way back from when 1394 01:20:41,640 --> 01:20:45,060 we cut the first album and we knew we had something, 1395 01:20:45,060 --> 01:20:47,310 and he said he wanted to work with Ingmar Bergman. 1396 01:20:47,310 --> 01:20:49,890 That's not the usual thing that a rock and roller would say, 1397 01:20:49,890 --> 01:20:52,140 "I want to work with Ingmar Bergman." 1398 01:20:55,640 --> 01:21:00,680 There were many elements that brought this to a head. 1399 01:21:00,680 --> 01:21:03,680 It wasn't only because of drugs. 1400 01:21:03,680 --> 01:21:07,470 After you've been together for 16 years, you think, 1401 01:21:07,470 --> 01:21:09,970 "We need to be able to catch our breath." 1402 01:21:11,930 --> 01:21:16,390 I thought, "If we could get off the treadmill, 1403 01:21:16,390 --> 01:21:20,430 "if we can go and take care of ourselves, 1404 01:21:20,430 --> 01:21:23,680 "we might be able to come to our senses." 1405 01:21:23,680 --> 01:21:30,180 My solution was, "Let's bring it to a culmination in the name of music. 1406 01:21:30,180 --> 01:21:32,180 "That's how we fight back on this." 1407 01:21:32,180 --> 01:21:36,350 MUSIC: Stage Fright by The Band 1408 01:21:36,350 --> 01:21:37,810 And we did. 1409 01:21:56,350 --> 01:22:00,180 The concert came together so quickly it was almost shocking. 1410 01:22:00,180 --> 01:22:04,180 I think we started planning a month before we did it. 1411 01:22:04,180 --> 01:22:07,930 # Now deep in the heart of a lonely kid 1412 01:22:07,930 --> 01:22:11,890 # Who suffered so much for what he did 1413 01:22:11,890 --> 01:22:16,220 # They gave this poor boy his fortune and fame 1414 01:22:16,220 --> 01:22:19,100 # Since that day he ain't been the same... # 1415 01:22:20,390 --> 01:22:23,260 We decided to do it with our friends. 1416 01:22:24,760 --> 01:22:27,680 And that's why we felt comfortable 1417 01:22:27,680 --> 01:22:31,430 with the idea of doing The Last Waltz. 1418 01:22:32,760 --> 01:22:35,260 # But when we get to the end 1419 01:22:35,260 --> 01:22:38,890 # He wants to start all over again 1420 01:22:38,890 --> 01:22:41,310 # Just let him take it from the top... # 1421 01:22:41,310 --> 01:22:44,810 I'm thinking, "We should document it properly. 1422 01:22:44,810 --> 01:22:49,220 "Let's think of some film-maker who could tell this story." 1423 01:22:50,810 --> 01:22:52,930 Robbie called me one day, and he said, 1424 01:22:52,930 --> 01:22:54,970 "These are some of the names in the line-up - 1425 01:22:54,970 --> 01:22:57,470 "Joni Mitchell, Neil Young, Van Morrison, 1426 01:22:57,470 --> 01:22:59,310 "Muddy Waters, Eric Clapton. 1427 01:22:59,310 --> 01:23:02,100 "Worse comes to worse, you'd wind up with the Library of Congress 1428 01:23:02,100 --> 01:23:05,720 "would have 35mm footage of these extraordinary people, 1429 01:23:05,720 --> 01:23:09,100 "performers and artists. And that would be it." 1430 01:23:09,100 --> 01:23:12,100 What it became, really, it was a celebration. 1431 01:23:12,100 --> 01:23:14,220 It was a celebration. 1432 01:23:14,220 --> 01:23:16,350 It was all the influences of The Band. 1433 01:23:16,350 --> 01:23:20,010 MUSIC: Who Do You Love? by The Band and Ronnie Hawkins 1434 01:23:22,640 --> 01:23:24,140 Woo! 1435 01:23:24,140 --> 01:23:26,220 Big time, Bill. 1436 01:23:26,220 --> 01:23:27,850 Big time, big time! 1437 01:23:27,850 --> 01:23:31,310 Ronnie Hawkins, when I was 17 years old with him and 1438 01:23:31,310 --> 01:23:36,430 I would play, he would come over and fan the guitar 1439 01:23:36,430 --> 01:23:40,310 like it's going to go up in flames if I don't cool it down, you know? 1440 01:23:40,310 --> 01:23:42,970 It was just... It was so heart-warming. 1441 01:23:42,970 --> 01:23:44,260 Aaaah! 1442 01:23:46,310 --> 01:23:48,510 I went out with the boys a month early, 1443 01:23:48,510 --> 01:23:51,060 just to see the rehearsals, because I didn't know 1444 01:23:51,060 --> 01:23:52,970 a lot of these people - I'd never met 'em. 1445 01:23:52,970 --> 01:23:55,100 I mean, I knew who they were, big stars. 1446 01:23:55,100 --> 01:23:56,970 You see a lot of weird things out there. 1447 01:23:56,970 --> 01:24:00,310 And they paid 35,000 cash, right in front of me, 1448 01:24:00,310 --> 01:24:02,060 for a little ol' bit of cocaine. 1449 01:24:02,060 --> 01:24:04,180 I snorted a couple lines and I said, 1450 01:24:04,180 --> 01:24:06,560 "Boys, there's enough flour and sugar in this shit 1451 01:24:06,560 --> 01:24:08,850 "you'll sneeze biscuits for three fuckin' months, 1452 01:24:08,850 --> 01:24:10,930 after you snort this!" 1453 01:24:10,930 --> 01:24:13,140 And they ended up buying another one. 1454 01:24:15,510 --> 01:24:18,850 # Yeah, the caravan is on its way... # 1455 01:24:18,850 --> 01:24:21,140 All I remember is that it was more of a celebration 1456 01:24:21,140 --> 01:24:22,680 than feeling sad about it. 1457 01:24:22,680 --> 01:24:25,510 And it was great, all these people. 1458 01:24:25,510 --> 01:24:27,510 And that was a good gig - it was fun. 1459 01:24:27,510 --> 01:24:28,970 There was no pondering it. 1460 01:24:28,970 --> 01:24:31,310 It was only going to happen once. You know, hey, presto. 1461 01:24:31,310 --> 01:24:36,470 # La, la, la-la, # La, la, la-la, La-la, la 1462 01:24:36,470 --> 01:24:41,640 # La la la-la, # La la la-la, La-la la 1463 01:24:43,310 --> 01:24:46,140 # Yeah, the caravan is painted red and white... # 1464 01:24:46,140 --> 01:24:49,810 It was a crazy idea, but we prepared so well. 1465 01:24:49,810 --> 01:24:53,220 I remember doing charts as to how to shoot, where to shoot, 1466 01:24:53,220 --> 01:24:55,390 which camera picks up which performer, 1467 01:24:55,390 --> 01:24:59,850 which lyric, which verse, chorus, what instrument. 1468 01:24:59,850 --> 01:25:02,810 I said, "We shouldn't show the audience reacting during a song." 1469 01:25:02,810 --> 01:25:05,350 I said, "We've seen it. So we stay on the stage." 1470 01:25:05,350 --> 01:25:07,810 We had hoped to get the way The Band works, 1471 01:25:07,810 --> 01:25:10,560 the looks, the glances, the looks, the glances, the moves. 1472 01:25:10,560 --> 01:25:13,470 So I decided to stay onstage with the performers 1473 01:25:13,470 --> 01:25:15,100 and how they relate to each other. 1474 01:25:15,100 --> 01:25:17,100 And that was the key to the whole piece. 1475 01:25:20,100 --> 01:25:22,810 When I found out who was on the bill, and I thought, 1476 01:25:22,810 --> 01:25:25,140 "My God, this is huge." You know? 1477 01:25:31,560 --> 01:25:33,760 The main memory I have of that thing 1478 01:25:33,760 --> 01:25:37,100 is obviously my strap coming off. 1479 01:25:37,100 --> 01:25:38,760 Whoa! 1480 01:25:38,760 --> 01:25:41,720 His strap broke, so I jumped in. 1481 01:25:41,720 --> 01:25:44,510 You've got to cover his back - he was our guest! 1482 01:25:44,510 --> 01:25:47,350 ROBBIE TAKES OVER GUITAR SOLO 1483 01:25:54,350 --> 01:25:56,640 And then he's like, 1484 01:25:56,640 --> 01:26:00,930 "Wait a minute, pal, let's not get too fancy over there." 1485 01:26:17,140 --> 01:26:19,760 # Further on up the road... # 1486 01:26:19,760 --> 01:26:22,930 What I remember about it is it was just... 1487 01:26:22,930 --> 01:26:24,720 ..so free it was untrue. 1488 01:26:24,720 --> 01:26:27,890 And I mean nobody knew what was going to happen next. 1489 01:26:27,890 --> 01:26:30,060 And I loved it. And I loved it. I loved it. 1490 01:26:30,060 --> 01:26:31,390 I didn't want it to ever end. 1491 01:26:34,010 --> 01:26:38,760 # I see my light come shining... # 1492 01:26:38,760 --> 01:26:42,180 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 1493 01:26:42,180 --> 01:26:46,850 # From the west down to the east 1494 01:26:50,100 --> 01:26:58,060 # Any day now 1495 01:26:58,060 --> 01:27:02,600 # I shall be released... # 1496 01:27:04,140 --> 01:27:09,930 The Last Waltz was such a beautiful thank you 1497 01:27:09,930 --> 01:27:13,560 to this wonderful journey that we'd been on, 1498 01:27:13,560 --> 01:27:17,720 and the amazing experiences we had. 1499 01:27:17,720 --> 01:27:21,310 The whole thing was so moving. 1500 01:27:21,310 --> 01:27:24,220 # Any day now 1501 01:27:25,350 --> 01:27:28,930 # Any day now 1502 01:27:28,930 --> 01:27:33,640 # I shall be released. # 1503 01:27:39,720 --> 01:27:42,890 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 1504 01:27:47,220 --> 01:27:48,680 Thank you very much. 1505 01:27:51,640 --> 01:27:54,970 Thank you. Thank you very much. 1506 01:28:17,760 --> 01:28:20,140 # When that curtain comes down 1507 01:28:22,220 --> 01:28:24,810 # We let go of the past 1508 01:28:26,640 --> 01:28:30,720 # Tomorrow's another day 1509 01:28:30,720 --> 01:28:34,310 # Some things weren't meant to last... # 1510 01:28:34,310 --> 01:28:37,510 We need a little bit more of the harp... Mm-hm. 1511 01:28:37,510 --> 01:28:41,100 ..in the intro and in the first turnaround. 1512 01:28:41,100 --> 01:28:44,310 Like, you want a little bit more, like, grit on it, or... 1513 01:28:44,310 --> 01:28:46,640 Yeah, just a little more atmosphere. 1514 01:28:46,640 --> 01:28:47,850 Right. Not so dry. 1515 01:28:47,850 --> 01:28:49,470 Yeah, got it. 1516 01:28:51,680 --> 01:28:54,760 # Some things weren't meant to last... # 1517 01:28:56,350 --> 01:29:02,970 We did The Last Waltz with the idea that we would put that away, 1518 01:29:02,970 --> 01:29:05,890 take care of one another a bit, 1519 01:29:05,890 --> 01:29:09,640 and really come back together again 1520 01:29:09,640 --> 01:29:13,140 and make music like we had never made before. 1521 01:29:13,140 --> 01:29:14,510 That was our dream. 1522 01:29:14,510 --> 01:29:16,010 That was the idea. 1523 01:29:17,720 --> 01:29:20,680 Everybody just forgot to come back. 1524 01:29:22,560 --> 01:29:24,640 # There'll be no revival 1525 01:29:26,680 --> 01:29:29,100 # There'll be no encore 1526 01:29:31,220 --> 01:29:34,010 # Once were brothers 1527 01:29:35,350 --> 01:29:37,890 # Brothers no more... # 1528 01:29:41,850 --> 01:29:45,060 I was the first one who was heartbroken, in a way, 1529 01:29:45,060 --> 01:29:47,510 because I loved The Band so much, 1530 01:29:47,510 --> 01:29:49,100 you know, and it felt like, 1531 01:29:49,100 --> 01:29:51,640 "It's closing this book, this chapter." 1532 01:29:53,010 --> 01:29:55,180 If somebody had said, 1533 01:29:55,180 --> 01:29:57,430 "I've got a couple of tunes started, 1534 01:29:57,430 --> 01:30:04,010 "we're dying to go in and create some music," 1535 01:30:04,010 --> 01:30:06,510 I would've said, "Yes," in a minute. 1536 01:30:06,510 --> 01:30:10,010 By that time, I don't think you could've kept The Band together. 1537 01:30:10,010 --> 01:30:12,760 Everybody had something they wanted to do, 1538 01:30:12,760 --> 01:30:17,100 and after The Last Waltz we started chasing those dreams. 1539 01:30:20,560 --> 01:30:25,310 Some years later, Levon was having a tough time. 1540 01:30:27,510 --> 01:30:31,680 And out of that, his anger was aimed at me. 1541 01:30:35,180 --> 01:30:40,140 In the end, Levon contended that somehow he should've gotten 1542 01:30:40,140 --> 01:30:43,060 a lot of the songwriting revenue. 1543 01:30:43,060 --> 01:30:45,470 And he just got more and more pissed off. 1544 01:30:47,350 --> 01:30:50,760 I can see why Levon might say something like that, 1545 01:30:50,760 --> 01:30:53,390 because he was really good at helping arrange. 1546 01:30:53,390 --> 01:30:54,850 But Robbie wrote all the songs. 1547 01:30:54,850 --> 01:30:57,640 Robbie was writing songs when he was 15 years old. 1548 01:30:57,640 --> 01:31:00,350 And the rest of the boys helped arrange the songs, 1549 01:31:00,350 --> 01:31:02,720 which is a little bit different. 1550 01:31:02,720 --> 01:31:06,100 Levon's point was that these were five guys 1551 01:31:06,100 --> 01:31:12,180 that all played a role in making The Band what it was. 1552 01:31:12,180 --> 01:31:17,010 I mean, the combination of those five guys was so unique, 1553 01:31:17,010 --> 01:31:21,060 and so he felt as though Robbie were claiming all the credit 1554 01:31:21,060 --> 01:31:22,680 for himself. 1555 01:31:22,680 --> 01:31:26,100 You could kind of see in Levon, through this bitterness, 1556 01:31:26,100 --> 01:31:29,600 that because of his interpretation of what happened, 1557 01:31:29,600 --> 01:31:31,720 he was really hurt, you know? 1558 01:31:31,720 --> 01:31:33,760 He just let it chew him up. 1559 01:31:33,760 --> 01:31:44,970 # And the sun don't shine anymore... # 1560 01:31:46,640 --> 01:31:48,430 When Levon ran out of money, 1561 01:31:48,430 --> 01:31:50,350 that's when he went crazy, 1562 01:31:50,350 --> 01:31:52,260 because he had been living high. 1563 01:31:52,260 --> 01:31:55,350 But Levon, he's kind of like me - he gets mad and says things 1564 01:31:55,350 --> 01:31:58,560 he shouldn't say, and goes crazy. 1565 01:31:58,560 --> 01:32:01,060 Levon and Robbie were best friends, 1566 01:32:01,060 --> 01:32:04,970 were brothers, I mean, and Levon showed him the ropes. 1567 01:32:04,970 --> 01:32:09,310 So it was very sad that that's how he felt, 1568 01:32:09,310 --> 01:32:11,930 and that, you know, that's what he believed. 1569 01:32:13,760 --> 01:32:20,810 Years later, I got a message that Levon was in the hospital 1570 01:32:20,810 --> 01:32:22,180 and he was dying. 1571 01:32:24,180 --> 01:32:27,310 I got on a plane and I went to the hospital. 1572 01:32:28,640 --> 01:32:30,890 Levon wasn't conscious any more. 1573 01:32:32,100 --> 01:32:36,640 His daughter was there and she took me into the room, 1574 01:32:36,640 --> 01:32:40,180 and I sat with him and I held his hand 1575 01:32:40,180 --> 01:32:44,310 and I thought about the amazing times 1576 01:32:44,310 --> 01:32:46,760 that we had had together. 1577 01:32:49,060 --> 01:32:53,720 We'd been on the front lines of two or three musical revolutions. 1578 01:32:55,470 --> 01:32:58,890 And now we're just left with these memories. 1579 01:33:00,720 --> 01:33:02,850 So I sat with my brother, 1580 01:33:02,850 --> 01:33:05,510 and held his hand. 1581 01:33:05,510 --> 01:33:07,100 You know, I said, 1582 01:33:07,100 --> 01:33:10,470 "Levon, I'll meet you on the other end." 1583 01:33:10,470 --> 01:33:13,970 MUSIC: The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down by The Band 1584 01:33:17,260 --> 01:33:22,930 # Virgil Caine is the name and I served on the Danville train 1585 01:33:24,430 --> 01:33:30,760 # Till Stoneman's cavalry came and they tore up the tracks again 1586 01:33:32,060 --> 01:33:36,890 # In the winter of '65, we were hungry 1587 01:33:36,890 --> 01:33:39,850 # Just barely alive 1588 01:33:39,850 --> 01:33:43,310 # By May the 10th, Richmond had fell 1589 01:33:43,310 --> 01:33:50,260 # It's a time I remember oh, so well 1590 01:33:50,260 --> 01:33:56,260 # The night they drove Old Dixie down 1591 01:33:56,260 --> 01:33:59,100 # When all the bells were ringing 1592 01:33:59,100 --> 01:34:04,430 # The night they drove Old Dixie down 1593 01:34:04,430 --> 01:34:07,430 # And all the people were singing, they went 1594 01:34:07,430 --> 01:34:11,140 # "Na, na-na, na-na, na, na, na 1595 01:34:11,140 --> 01:34:14,930 # "Na-na, na-na, na-na, na, na, na" 1596 01:34:19,010 --> 01:34:23,260 # Back with my wife in Tennessee 1597 01:34:23,260 --> 01:34:26,060 # When one day she called to me 1598 01:34:28,350 --> 01:34:31,140 # Said "Virgil, quick, come and see 1599 01:34:31,140 --> 01:34:33,890 # "There goes Robert E Lee" 1600 01:34:34,970 --> 01:34:38,600 # Now I don't mind chopping wood 1601 01:34:38,600 --> 01:34:42,810 # And I don't care if the money's no good 1602 01:34:42,810 --> 01:34:46,350 # You take what you need and you leave the rest 1603 01:34:46,350 --> 01:34:54,260 # But they should never have taken the very best 1604 01:34:54,260 --> 01:34:59,680 The night they drove Old Dixie down 1605 01:34:59,680 --> 01:35:02,720 # When all the bells were ringing 1606 01:35:02,720 --> 01:35:07,680 # The night they drove Old Dixie down 1607 01:35:07,680 --> 01:35:10,720 # And all the people were singing 1608 01:35:10,720 --> 01:35:14,890 # They went, "Na, na-na, na-na, na, na, na 1609 01:35:14,890 --> 01:35:18,680 # "Na-na, na-na, na-na, na-na, na" 1610 01:35:26,850 --> 01:35:29,260 # Like my father before me 1611 01:35:30,260 --> 01:35:33,220 # I will work the land 1612 01:35:34,890 --> 01:35:38,390 # And like my brother above me 1613 01:35:38,390 --> 01:35:41,890 # Who took a rebel stand 1614 01:35:41,890 --> 01:35:45,640 # He was just 18, proud and brave 1615 01:35:45,640 --> 01:35:49,810 # But a Yankee laid him in his grave 1616 01:35:49,810 --> 01:35:53,470 # And I swear by the mud below my feet 1617 01:35:53,470 --> 01:36:01,310 # You can't raise a Caine back up when he's in defeat 1618 01:36:01,310 --> 01:36:07,220 # The night they drove Old Dixie down 1619 01:36:07,220 --> 01:36:10,060 # When all the bells were ringing 1620 01:36:10,060 --> 01:36:15,350 # The night they drove Old Dixie down 1621 01:36:15,350 --> 01:36:18,390 # And all the people were singing, they went 1622 01:36:18,390 --> 01:36:22,310 # "Na, na-na, na-na, na, na, na 1623 01:36:22,310 --> 01:36:26,100 "Na-na, na-na, na-na, na, na, na" 1624 01:36:34,390 --> 01:36:39,930 # The night they drove Old Dixie down now 1625 01:36:39,930 --> 01:36:42,310 # The bells were ringing 1626 01:36:42,310 --> 01:36:47,760 # The night they drove Old Dixie down 1627 01:36:47,760 --> 01:36:50,060 # And all the people were singing 1628 01:36:50,060 --> 01:36:54,260 # They went, "Na, na-na, na-na na, na, na 1629 01:36:54,260 --> 01:36:58,600 # "Na-na, na-na, Na-na, na, na, na"... # 1630 01:37:07,560 --> 01:37:10,600 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 1631 01:37:16,220 --> 01:37:18,010 Thank you very much. 1632 01:37:18,010 --> 01:37:21,180 MUSIC: Ophelia by The Band 1633 01:37:29,890 --> 01:37:34,890 # Boards on the window, mail by the door 1634 01:37:34,890 --> 01:37:39,180 # What would anybody leave so quickly for? 1635 01:37:39,180 --> 01:37:41,260 # Ophelia 1636 01:37:43,680 --> 01:37:45,930 # Where have you gone? 1637 01:37:50,760 --> 01:37:56,140 # The old neighbourhood just ain't the same 1638 01:37:56,140 --> 01:38:02,220 # Nobody knows just what became of Ophelia 1639 01:38:03,850 --> 01:38:04,140 # Hmm, tell me what went wrong 1640 01:38:04,140 --> 01:38:06,810 # Tell me what went wrong... # 1641 01:38:12,010 --> 01:38:16,560 # Was it something that somebody said? 1642 01:38:16,560 --> 01:38:21,930 # Mama, I know we broke the rules 1643 01:38:21,930 --> 01:38:26,680 # Was somebody up against the law 1644 01:38:27,720 --> 01:38:32,890 # Honey you know I'd die for you 1645 01:38:32,890 --> 01:38:34,760 # Ashes of laughter 1646 01:38:34,760 --> 01:38:37,560 # The ghost is clear 1647 01:38:37,560 --> 01:38:41,890 # Why do the best things always disappear? 1648 01:38:41,890 --> 01:38:44,350 # Like Ophelia 1649 01:38:46,060 --> 01:38:49,100 # Please darken my door... # 128075

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