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HE STRUMS GUITAR
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This guitar was
the beginning of it all for me.
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HE PLAYS
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I don't have
much of a process of, like,
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"I'm thinking about this,
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"and now I'm going to write a song,
and it's going to be about that."
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A lot of times,
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the creative process is trying
to catch yourself off guard.
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And you sit down,
and you've got a blank canvas,
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and you don't know
what you're going to do,
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and you just see what happens.
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How you doing, man?
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When you talk about songs
that are reflective of your past,
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it becomes a jigsaw puzzle,
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because you write
about what you know.
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You write about where you've been.
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You write about who you know.
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When I stumbled onto this song,
Once Were Brothers...
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..it really did, for me,
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zero in on The Band.
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# Once were brothers
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# Brothers no more
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# We lost our connection
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# After the war... #
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I don't know
of any other group of musicians
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with a story equivalent
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to the story of The Band.
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And it was a beautiful thing.
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It was so beautiful,
it went up in flames.
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# Brothers no more... #
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MUSIC: Up On Cripple Creek
by The Band
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# When I get off of this mountain
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# You know where I want to go
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# Straight down
the Mississippi River
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# To the Gulf of Mexico
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# To Lake George, Louisiana... #
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There is no band that emphasises
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coming together and becoming
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greater than the sum
of their parts than The Band.
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Simply their name -
The Band - that was it.
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# Up on Cripple Creek
She sends me
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# If I sprang a leak
She'd mend me
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# I don't have to speak
She defends me
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# A drunkard's dream
If I ever did see one
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# Good luck had just stung me
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# And to the racetrack I did go
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# I bet on one horse to win
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# And she bet On
another to show... #
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I've never been
in a band that long.
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I ran away, usually,
and would move on
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to the next thing that was
attractive to me,
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or that was missing in the band
I was in. So I didn't
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have a sense of brotherhood,
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so I was in great awe
of their brotherhood.
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It was the soul of The Band.
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# She mends me
I don't have to speak
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# She defends me
A drunkard's dream
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# If I ever did see one... #
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Not only did they
have the incredible writing,
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you know, Robbie's writing,
but they had three
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of the greatest white singers
in rock history.
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To have any one of those guys
would be the foundation
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for a great band. To have three
of them in one group,
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that was...just loaded for bear.
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# That's when that
little love of mine
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# Dips her doughnut in my tea
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# Up on Cripple Creek... #
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This music drew upon country music,
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English, Scotch, Irish, the choral
sounds of the Welsh.
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At the same time,
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Mississippi Delta, the blues.
And there was so much imagery.
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This...just didn't
seem like anything else.
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No-one sounded like those guys.
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You know, they came in,
and they played.
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And I just loved that about them,
you know, they were about the music.
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# And she defends me
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# A drunkard's dream
if I ever did see one... #
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# No-no, hu-hu
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# Lodl-lodl-lodl-uh-hu... #
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I think about Levon, Richard, Rick,
and Garth all the time.
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We went through things together you
could never replace.
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You can never give enough credit
to something that special.
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I was an only child,
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so this brotherhood was so powerful.
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# Oh, I could get you
with my yodel, I go
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# No-no, hu-hu
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# Lodl-lodl-lodl-lodl-lodl-uh-hu
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# No-no-hu
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# Lodl-lodl-lodl-uh-hu
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# No, no, no, no, no. #
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I think we're warmed up.
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Since I was a kid, I see stories
in a different way.
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I don't see them like fairy tales.
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These stories are powerful,
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and some of them are
dangerous and big.
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Maybe that's because
my upbringing was
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a little bit scattered
and not normal, in some ways.
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My mother was born and raised
in the Six Nation Indian reserve.
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Her name was Dolly.
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When she was around 16 years old,
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she was sent to live
with an aunt in Toronto.
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When we would go back to visit
the relatives in the Indian reserve,
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I thought this was
a magical place.
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It seemed like every day,
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when the sun started to go down,
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the instruments would come out.
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And I could sit in the
middle of this,
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and hear the fingers
on the strings,
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and the hands rubbing
on the skins of the drum.
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My parents got me a little guitar
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with a cowboy painted on it.
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I already know
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a couple of chords on the guitar
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that my relatives at
Six Nations have taught me.
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I would practise and practise.
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"This is where I belong.
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"This is calling me."
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I don't know for sure
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whether I would ever have found
my way to music
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without this experience...
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..and that's why I have
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such a deep appreciation
for that place.
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And then we crossed into a time zone
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when I was 13 years old.
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MUSIC: Johnny B Goode
by Chuck Berry
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Overnight, out of nowhere,
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this new music came pouring out.
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# Deep down in Louisiana
close to New Orleans
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# Way back up in the woods
among the evergreens
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# There stood a log cabin
made of Earth and wood
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# Where lived a country boy
named Johnny B Goode
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# Who never ever learned
to read or write so well
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# But he could play a guitar
just like a-ringin' a bell
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# Go, go... #
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SPRINGSTEEN: For guys my age,
it was a life-altering moment.
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Like, it just cut against the grain
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of the mundaneness of
entertainment at that time.
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You know, it's raw, it's loud,
it's raucous, it's tough.
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You know, the guitar sound
is loud and thrilling.
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It immediately imparted
to you this entire new way
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of living, of looking, of walking,
of talking, of being,
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of the possibilities of what you
might be able to do with your life.
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It was a revolutionary moment,
you know.
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I thought of it as
my own personal Big Bang.
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# Lucille
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# You won't do your sister's will
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# Lucille
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# You won't do your
sister's will... #
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I thought, "That's it.
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"I don't know what all
you people are going to do,
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"but I know what I'm going to do."
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Within weeks,
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I was in my first band.
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We were off and running.
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# I'm walkin', yes, indeed
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# And I'm talkin'
about you and me
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# I'm hopin'
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# That you come back to me... #
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My schoolmates, they're like,
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"One of these days, I want to have
my own bowling alley."
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I'd be like, "Oh, my God,
your own bowling...
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"You could bowl for free
all you wanted, right?"
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I don't have that vision.
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I saw something else, and the lights
were really bright.
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Within a couple years,
we were getting somewhere,
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booking different
shows around Toronto.
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A local DJ booked us to open
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for Ronnie Hawkins and the Hawks.
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# Well, I had a little woman
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# And her name was Baby Jean... #
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Ronnie Hawkins and the Hawks had
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a reputation to be the best
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rockabilly band around.
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# Baby Jean
Baby Jean
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# Don't be mean... #
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These guys were up there
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with Jerry Lee Lewis,
Conway Twitty,
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Carl Perkins,
they were in that league.
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# My baby
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# Well, I learned to
lose my mind... #
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We didn't know
anything about Canada.
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We figured, Canada is the
wilderness, they've still got
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mountain men, you know, eating
each other, stuff like that.
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We didn't know nothing
about Canada. Boy, and Canada is
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the promised land compared
to where we came from.
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We played our hearts out.
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Then Ronnie Hawkins
and the Hawks take the stage.
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Oh, my God. They took flight.
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# ..back home
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# I'm going to call up a gypsy woman
on the telephone
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# I'm going to send out
a worldwide hoo-doo there
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# That'd be the very thing
that'd suit you
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# I'm going to see that she'll be
back home in 40 days
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# Oh, 40 days
40 days... #
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Ronnie Hawkins was over here.
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Boom, he was over there.
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He was singing just in time.
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The piano player would be
playing a solo,
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keys would be flying off the piano,
he was hitting it so hard.
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There was a guy playing drums
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who looked like he was 15 years old,
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with white-blonde hair,
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and he was twirling sticks, and
he was laughing, and smiling,
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and he just seemed
to glow in the dark,
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and his name was Levon Helm.
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Well, I started with
Ronnie when I was trying
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to get out of high school
back in Arkansas.
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Ronnie was putting a band together.
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I got into it to play drums.
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We hit the road,
played around for years,
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and ended up playing up in Canada.
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# That'd be the very thing
that'd suit you... #
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"This is it. This is the most
amazing thing on the planet Earth."
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After they played,
I just stand around.
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I wanted to help out
in any way I could,
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to have this rub off on me -
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this music, this talent,
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this southern-ness.
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I stack to them like glue.
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I knew right off the bat Robbie had
something special.
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I don't know, he must've been
15 or 16 years old.
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# Baba Lou...
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But he was hip.
Robbie was street hip.
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He was a hell of a young man.
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One day, I heard Ronnie Hawkins
saying to the other guys,
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"I got to cut a new record.
I need some songs."
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I scampered home, went to my room,
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and never came out
until l wrote two songs.
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# I will love her till my dying day
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# Don't know why she left
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# Left me this way
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# Left me here all alone
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# To sit and cry on my own... #
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Robbie was writing songs
when he was 15 years old.
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I recorded two of said songs
on my album
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before anybody ever thought
about Robbie Robertson.
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At that time,
Robbie dropped out of school.
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His mother, Dolly,
she was worried about him.
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There had been quite a period
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where my parents weren't
getting along.
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My father, Jim Robertson,
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was being quite abusive
with my mother,
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and with me.
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And one day she said to me,
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"Sit down, I...
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"I need to tell you something.
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"And maybe I should've
told you this before,
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"but he's not your real father."
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"W-What?
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"I... What do you mean,
he's not my real father?"
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Robbie's real daddy was
a Hebrew gangster.
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Yeah, they killed him,
they shot him on
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Yonge Street, I think.
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My mother says,
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"Your blood father,
his name was Alexander Klegerman.
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"He got killed before you were born.
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"He's Jewish."
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And she introduced me to the
relatives of my blood father,
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Natie Klegerman
and Morrie Klegerman.
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They bring me into their world
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with tremendous love and affection.
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I met his uncle who'd been
in the penitentiary ten years.
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He was a gangster too.
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Through these relatives of mine,
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I'm understanding
what's been stirring
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inside of me all this time.
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They understand vision.
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They understand ambition.
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When I told the Klegermans
I had musical ambitions,
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they were like, "Rock and roll?
You don't want to be
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"in furs and diamonds?
You want to be in the...?"
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And then they were like,
"Oh, you mean, show business."
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I'm 16 years old now.
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Ronnie Hawkins says, "I want
you to come down to Arkansas
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"and try out
to become one of the Hawks."
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If I didn't go down there
and try out for this,
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I would be sorry
the rest of my life.
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I sold my '56 Stratocaster,
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I got the money
to take a train from Toronto
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to Fayetteville, Arkansas.
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I'm going to the Mississippi Delta -
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to the fountainhead of rock and
roll.
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"This is it, this is it.
I've got to make this work."
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# I can't do it all by myself... #
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So many amazing music people
came out of there.
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# You got to help me, baby
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# I can't do it all by myself
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You know if you don't
help me, darling.. #
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This music is down and dirty.
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And it's heavy,
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just like the air.
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LEVON: Growin' up there
in the Delta,
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just in the Memphis,
West Memphis area there,
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we had as good a radio
as you could find.
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Our jukeboxes and radios
weren't running short of good songs.
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I consider myself fortunate to have
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grown up there and heard
the kind of music that I did.
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Robbie was a hell of a gifted
musician, I can tell you that.
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But what made him better
than anybody else is
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he worked twice as hard.
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Finally, Ronnie says,
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"I'm going to offer you the job."
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I say, "You'll never have
to tell me to work harder."
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He said, "I know."
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So I say, "Great. How much will
I get paid working for you?"
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And I said, "Well, don't worry
about the money, kid.
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"You ain't going to make much money,
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"but you'll be getting
more pussy than Frank Sinatra."
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"And he did.
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# Hey, Bo Diddley
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# Hey, Bo Diddley... #
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I depended on Levon
to show me the road.
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He had grown, in my eyes,
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bigger than life.
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When he laughed, everybody laughed.
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They were the best friends
you could ever be.
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They were like Huckleberry Finn
and Tom Sawyer.
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It was a hell of a combination,
I thought,
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because Levon could put the
arrangements and stuff together
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and do all that, and Robbie
could write the songs.
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When I saw Robbie play guitar,
it just blew my mind.
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Every guitar player in Toronto
learned from Robbie.
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He changed the whole ball
game up here.
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I can remember people discussing,
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"How does Robbie make
that guitar sound?"
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That was the big mystery.
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There was, like,
stories going around that,
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00:20:44,430 --> 00:20:48,560
"Oh, he slashed his speakers, broke
a couple of tubes in the amp."
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Every guitar player I met after
that was doing the same thing.
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I watched them all change
from their old style of playing
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to the new Robbie style of playing,
and I was...
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..I was one of the pack.
333
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Ronnie depends on Levon and I
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to help him choose musicians
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that have potential.
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Ronnie wants to have
the best band in the land.
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Have you ever heard me sing?
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I'll better have a good band!
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The Arkansas boys would quit
and Ronnie would replace
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with a Canadian musician.
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Within a fairly short time, we had
Richard, Rick,
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and when Garth finally
joined the outfit,
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I think that gave us a leg up.
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We didn't know a musician
that could do what he could do.
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Garth understood Muddy Waters
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and Bach in the same sentence.
347
00:22:00,470 --> 00:22:04,390
Richard was an
incredibly beautiful soul.
348
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You couldn't help
but just love the guy.
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It was kind of like boot camp.
350
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I mean, we drove ourselves
to as near perfection
351
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as we could get, you know?
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To the point where we'd
really thrill each other.
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Rick was one
of these people that was like,
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"Trombone, bass, tuba, violin.
Whatever it is, I can do it."
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RICK: We were kids playing in bars
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that you were supposed
to be 21 to play in.
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We were 17, 18, 19.
358
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It can get pretty outrageous when
you're out there that young.
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# Further on up the road
360
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# Someone going to hurt you
like you hurt me
361
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# Further on up the road... #
362
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RONNIE: Robbie's mom, Dolly,
363
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she helped the band
out more than anybody.
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She would give them
places to stay cheap,
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fed 'em, cooked. She did everything.
She was somethin' else.
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00:22:54,890 --> 00:22:56,890
# Baby, just you wait and see... #
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We played six days a week
and we practised five.
368
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That's how come they got good.
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They were probably the best
white rhythm and blues band
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00:23:06,220 --> 00:23:07,600
in the world at that time.
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When they were young,
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they were absorbing
all that knowledge quick.
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They shot by me musically
like a bolt of lightning.
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We were outgrowing the past
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00:23:18,890 --> 00:23:21,220
and the music that we were
playing with Ronnie.
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00:23:33,930 --> 00:23:38,890
When we left Ronnie, we ended up
playing at a club in New York,
377
00:23:38,890 --> 00:23:41,810
and one day my friend,
John Hammond,
378
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a great musician, blues singer,
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he came and picked me up
at the hotel,
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and we're going to the
Columbia Records Building,
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to one of the studios.
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We go in. I see over in the corner
this guy with dark glasses on
383
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and frizzly hair, and John says,
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00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:02,390
"This is Bob Dylan."
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MUSIC: Like A Rolling Stone
by Bob Dylan
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00:24:13,060 --> 00:24:15,470
# Once upon a time
you dressed so fine
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# Threw the bums a dime
in your prime
388
00:24:18,850 --> 00:24:20,850
# Didn't you...? #
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00:24:20,850 --> 00:24:24,350
Bob Dylan's
a really respected songwriter.
390
00:24:24,350 --> 00:24:28,010
He was best known to me
as a folk singer with a guitar
391
00:24:28,010 --> 00:24:29,850
and he has a harmonica,
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00:24:29,850 --> 00:24:32,930
and he sings his beautiful songs.
393
00:24:32,930 --> 00:24:35,720
Folk music, from what we knew,
394
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:39,060
was happening over by
a university somewhere,
395
00:24:39,060 --> 00:24:41,350
and people were
sipping cappuccinos,
396
00:24:41,350 --> 00:24:43,260
listening to folk music.
397
00:24:43,260 --> 00:24:45,850
Where we're playing, on the other
side of the tracks,
398
00:24:45,850 --> 00:24:49,680
there ain't nobody
sipping cappuccinos over there.
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LEVON: I didn't know a
whole lot about Bob.
400
00:24:52,140 --> 00:24:56,970
We were more into
R&B and blues music.
401
00:25:00,140 --> 00:25:02,470
When we left Ronnie,
402
00:25:02,470 --> 00:25:04,390
I want to be something original,
403
00:25:04,390 --> 00:25:06,510
I don't want to be a bar band.
404
00:25:06,510 --> 00:25:08,930
I've got to come back to writing.
405
00:25:08,930 --> 00:25:13,760
I'm having dreams
about finding a sanctuary,
406
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:15,810
finding a place that we can go,
407
00:25:15,810 --> 00:25:19,100
and we can hone these skills,
and we're just not
408
00:25:19,100 --> 00:25:22,010
on the road
driving to the next gig.
409
00:25:22,010 --> 00:25:25,680
They were playing these gigs,
trying to get a recording deal.
410
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,850
I said, "Well, gee, you know,
how about we make a record together?
411
00:25:28,850 --> 00:25:31,010
And I was signed to
Vanguard Records.
412
00:25:31,010 --> 00:25:34,810
And they gave us, like,
a three-hour window to record.
413
00:25:34,810 --> 00:25:37,970
I invited my friend Bob Dylan
to the recording day.
414
00:25:37,970 --> 00:25:39,640
So I introduced them to Dylan.
415
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:41,640
And... And Dylan flipped out.
416
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,850
I mean, he thought these
guys were phenomenal.
417
00:25:44,850 --> 00:25:46,810
What we didn't know
418
00:25:46,810 --> 00:25:50,640
is that Bob's already doing
the rock and roll thing.
419
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:53,720
MUSIC: Maggie's Farm
by Bob Dylan
420
00:26:01,100 --> 00:26:07,060
He wanted to hire an amazing band
that he could take on tour with him.
421
00:26:07,060 --> 00:26:09,390
So he hired the guys.
422
00:26:09,390 --> 00:26:12,510
MUSIC: Just Like Tom Thumb's Blues
by Bob Dylan
423
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# When you're lost in the rain
424
00:26:21,850 --> 00:26:23,140
# In Juarez
425
00:26:23,140 --> 00:26:25,180
# And it's Easter time too... #
426
00:26:27,810 --> 00:26:30,310
Bob Dylan's thing
was like a detour.
427
00:26:30,310 --> 00:26:32,510
We're hooking up with this guy,
428
00:26:32,510 --> 00:26:35,640
and he's changing the
course of music.
429
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:36,970
He's like...
430
00:26:36,970 --> 00:26:39,100
..the king of the folk movement
431
00:26:39,100 --> 00:26:42,260
who now wants a rock and roll band.
432
00:26:42,260 --> 00:26:47,100
Huh! That's not a bad thing
to experience along the way too.
433
00:26:47,100 --> 00:26:50,220
We thought,
"Let's take that detour."
434
00:26:50,220 --> 00:26:53,180
# They got some hungry women there
435
00:26:53,180 --> 00:26:57,930
# And they really make a mess
out of you... #
436
00:26:57,930 --> 00:27:01,430
We hook up with him,
and have no idea
437
00:27:01,430 --> 00:27:04,680
that he's the only one
that thinks this is a good idea.
438
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,930
The rest of the world
hates this idea.
439
00:27:07,930 --> 00:27:11,350
We play with him
and they boo us every night.
440
00:27:11,350 --> 00:27:14,970
It is weird that people could
441
00:27:14,970 --> 00:27:20,220
be this upset about this guy
just wanting to expand
442
00:27:20,220 --> 00:27:22,060
his musical horizon
443
00:27:22,060 --> 00:27:24,640
and play with other musicians.
444
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:28,060
MUSIC: Tell Me, Momma
by Bob Dylan
445
00:27:34,310 --> 00:27:38,510
# Ol' black Bascom
don't break no mirrors
446
00:27:38,510 --> 00:27:42,510
# Cold black water dog
make no tears... #
447
00:27:42,510 --> 00:27:46,470
We'd go somewhere, we set up
our equipment, we play.
448
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:51,430
People come, they boo us,
sometimes throw things.
449
00:27:51,430 --> 00:27:53,430
We'd pack up our equipment,
450
00:27:53,430 --> 00:27:55,180
go on to the next place,
451
00:27:55,180 --> 00:27:58,140
set up, play, they boo us.
452
00:27:58,140 --> 00:28:00,890
I think, "What a strange way
to make a buck."
453
00:28:04,100 --> 00:28:06,180
Kids would break for the stage,
454
00:28:06,180 --> 00:28:09,310
cops were making
open-field tackles...
455
00:28:09,310 --> 00:28:11,260
..out in front of the stage.
456
00:28:11,260 --> 00:28:13,220
And Bob had told us, you know,
457
00:28:13,220 --> 00:28:15,430
"Whatever happens,
just don't stop playing."
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00:28:15,430 --> 00:28:18,010
# Tell me, Mamma
459
00:28:20,430 --> 00:28:22,680
# Tell me, Mamma
460
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,470
# Tell me, Mamma, what is it?
461
00:28:29,510 --> 00:28:34,310
# What's wrong with you
this time...? #
462
00:28:34,310 --> 00:28:36,010
Cool car!
463
00:28:36,010 --> 00:28:39,180
Get the bass in with Robbie.
Let's go.
464
00:28:39,180 --> 00:28:41,310
Let's go, we have to go now.
Hey, tell them we have to go.
465
00:28:41,310 --> 00:28:43,220
Hey, don't pull my fingers!
466
00:28:43,220 --> 00:28:46,720
So long. So long.
Don't boo me any more!
467
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:50,100
When they yell in
this weird nasal tone.
468
00:28:50,100 --> 00:28:52,680
Oh. Jesus, you know,
I don't understand why they...
469
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:54,890
How can they buy
the tickets up so fast?
470
00:28:54,890 --> 00:28:56,350
Let's get that light off.
471
00:29:09,890 --> 00:29:13,180
Levon expressed to me that there was
472
00:29:13,180 --> 00:29:15,640
something in this whole world
473
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,510
that we had entered into that
just didn't feel right to him.
474
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:21,140
And the idea that we would
475
00:29:21,140 --> 00:29:25,390
go out and play
and people would boo us,
476
00:29:25,390 --> 00:29:28,600
he thought that was just ridiculous.
477
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:34,220
And I... I was much closer to Bob
than the other guys were.
478
00:29:34,220 --> 00:29:37,600
I don't think Levon felt good
about that, either.
479
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:41,760
# I bet you might
think it's foolish
480
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:43,470
# To be this way
481
00:29:43,470 --> 00:29:45,970
# And am I sane?
To who?... #
482
00:29:47,810 --> 00:29:50,390
One night, Levon comes
483
00:29:50,390 --> 00:29:53,430
to my hotel room and he says,
484
00:29:53,430 --> 00:29:57,060
"I don't like this music.
I don't like these people.
485
00:29:57,060 --> 00:29:59,010
"I don't want to be here.
486
00:29:59,010 --> 00:30:01,470
"And I don't want to be
in anybody's band.
487
00:30:03,010 --> 00:30:04,220
"I want to go."
488
00:30:06,430 --> 00:30:09,640
He didn't go
anywhere without me.
489
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,430
He said, "I'm going to go
down to New Orleans
490
00:30:12,430 --> 00:30:17,470
"and maybe work on an oil rig
in the Gulf of Mexico."
491
00:30:17,470 --> 00:30:20,760
And I said,
"Have you told the other guys?"
492
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,470
He said, "No, I haven't spoke
to the other guys.
493
00:30:23,470 --> 00:30:25,310
"I'd like you to do that for me."
494
00:30:25,310 --> 00:30:27,720
# Sometimes, you know... #
495
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:33,140
"Tell them I wish them well,
and I'll see them down the line."
496
00:30:33,140 --> 00:30:35,760
So I walked him down the street,
497
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:40,640
and I put my arm around his
shoulders as we were walking along.
498
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:42,600
He felt beat up to me.
499
00:30:43,970 --> 00:30:48,010
And I knew that he was
really in pain.
500
00:30:48,010 --> 00:30:49,970
My heart was breaking.
501
00:30:49,970 --> 00:30:52,970
My partner, my brother...
502
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:56,970
..has left, has gone.
503
00:30:56,970 --> 00:30:59,180
I don't know how to do this
504
00:30:59,180 --> 00:31:00,390
without Levon...
505
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:03,640
..but I'm going to have
to figure it out.
506
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,430
# Well, she hit a wall
507
00:31:08,010 --> 00:31:10,430
# Back when I was young
508
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:17,720
# But you're headed out
509
00:31:18,930 --> 00:31:21,060
# But I'll be here
510
00:31:21,060 --> 00:31:23,390
# She knows she's the one... #
511
00:31:23,390 --> 00:31:28,010
After Levon left,
we had to get another drummer.
512
00:31:28,010 --> 00:31:29,720
Mickey Jones was his name,
513
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:31,970
and he was a terrific guy,
514
00:31:31,970 --> 00:31:34,510
but, boy, they were
tough shoes to fill.
515
00:31:34,510 --> 00:31:36,600
Levon left a big hole.
516
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,180
We play all over Europe,
517
00:31:53,180 --> 00:31:55,640
and it just gets worse.
518
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,100
We were thinking,
"Maybe they don't like it here,
519
00:31:58,100 --> 00:32:01,220
"but when we go there,
they'll probably feel differently."
520
00:32:01,220 --> 00:32:02,350
No.
521
00:32:03,970 --> 00:32:06,720
Being in the trenches with Bob
on this fight
522
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:08,260
probably reinforced their
relationship.
523
00:32:08,260 --> 00:32:10,970
I think they became closer
under fire.
524
00:32:10,970 --> 00:32:13,560
It's fun to revolt. Robbie's young,
525
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,970
and you know, throwin' it in the
faces of all these like, pissant,
526
00:32:16,970 --> 00:32:19,060
you know, people that are
in tweeds, or whatever.
527
00:32:19,060 --> 00:32:21,890
GEORGE HARRISON: I remember it well.
The show was in two halves.
528
00:32:21,890 --> 00:32:23,930
In the first half,
Bob came out and did
529
00:32:23,930 --> 00:32:26,390
his usual thing with the
guitar and the harmonica.
530
00:32:26,390 --> 00:32:28,760
In the second half,
he came out with the band.
531
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,760
All through that second half,
people were getting up
532
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:35,350
and walking out, shouting, and Bob
just came out and he said,
533
00:32:35,350 --> 00:32:38,060
"Well, you know, "You all
may know this song.
534
00:32:38,060 --> 00:32:40,100
"Um, remember how it goes?
535
00:32:40,100 --> 00:32:42,060
"Well, here's how it goes now."
You know?
536
00:32:42,060 --> 00:32:44,760
MUSIC: Ballad Of A Thin Man
by Bob Dylan
537
00:32:50,100 --> 00:32:53,470
I remember saying
to the other guys,
538
00:32:53,470 --> 00:32:56,600
"This is good. They're wrong.
539
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,010
"This is good."
540
00:32:59,010 --> 00:33:01,850
And then you realise,
541
00:33:01,850 --> 00:33:04,930
you're in a musical revolution.
542
00:33:04,930 --> 00:33:07,350
There is something going on here,
543
00:33:07,350 --> 00:33:09,810
and you have nothing to
compare it to.
544
00:33:11,510 --> 00:33:16,260
It just made us feel like
flexing our musical muscles.
545
00:33:16,260 --> 00:33:19,510
"We're going to play this music
in your face."
546
00:33:26,470 --> 00:33:28,640
DYLAN: The guys that were
with me on that tour,
547
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,350
you know, we were all
in it together.
548
00:33:30,350 --> 00:33:32,720
We were puttin' our heads
in the lion's mouth.
549
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,220
I had to admire them
for sticking it out with me,
550
00:33:35,220 --> 00:33:37,760
just for doing it,
in my book they were, you know...
551
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:41,470
..gallant knights for even,
you know, standing behind me.
552
00:33:43,010 --> 00:33:45,760
# Mr Jones. #
553
00:34:00,180 --> 00:34:02,890
One day, we were just taking a walk
554
00:34:02,890 --> 00:34:04,810
and looking in stores.
555
00:34:04,810 --> 00:34:09,220
I see two really pretty girls.
556
00:34:12,260 --> 00:34:14,350
We're taking a wonderful walk.
557
00:34:14,350 --> 00:34:15,930
It was the springtime in Paris.
558
00:34:15,930 --> 00:34:19,430
There was a gathering of people
somewhere around the corner
559
00:34:19,430 --> 00:34:22,600
who began to talk to us,
and asked us what we were doing.
560
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:30,600
In broken English, they say they're
journalists from Montreal.
561
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:34,430
I'm like,
"Wow! I'm from Canada too.
562
00:34:34,430 --> 00:34:36,220
"I'm from Toronto."
563
00:34:36,220 --> 00:34:39,220
And they look like,
"Oh, that's too bad."
564
00:34:39,220 --> 00:34:41,600
And this whole thing at the time
565
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,970
between English-speaking
and the French-speaking,
566
00:34:44,970 --> 00:34:46,930
they were in a revolutionary spirit.
567
00:34:46,930 --> 00:34:50,390
This is when they were
putting bombs in mailboxes,
568
00:34:50,390 --> 00:34:52,640
and it was rough going.
569
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:55,260
I'm on neutral territory,
I'm in Paris.
570
00:34:55,260 --> 00:34:57,850
He looked like family to me
from the beginning.
571
00:34:57,850 --> 00:35:01,390
It was like...I recognised him.
572
00:35:05,060 --> 00:35:07,260
I am fancy dancing
573
00:35:07,260 --> 00:35:10,850
the best I can to charm Dominique
574
00:35:10,850 --> 00:35:13,350
into thinking I'm not a bad person,
575
00:35:13,350 --> 00:35:14,760
I'm not the enemy.
576
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:18,220
And we've got to spend
some time together.
577
00:35:19,970 --> 00:35:22,260
We went to the concert
at the Olympia,
578
00:35:22,260 --> 00:35:24,470
and the crowd was roaring
579
00:35:24,470 --> 00:35:27,760
in anger about electric guitars.
580
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:31,510
I didn't even realise
people were booing any more.
581
00:35:31,510 --> 00:35:35,180
There was something
about her spirit.
582
00:35:35,180 --> 00:35:38,680
There was something
about her eyes and her smile,
583
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,100
and it was a fire inside her.
584
00:35:43,010 --> 00:35:45,560
Even though I didn't
speak his language,
585
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:47,600
I spoke a language that touched him.
586
00:35:49,970 --> 00:35:53,060
I was definitely
falling in love with Robbie.
587
00:36:00,390 --> 00:36:02,760
When we got back to New York City,
588
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:06,220
I invited her to come
and join me there,
589
00:36:06,220 --> 00:36:08,010
and eventually she did.
590
00:36:09,390 --> 00:36:11,890
The other guys
in the Hawks and myself
591
00:36:11,890 --> 00:36:13,930
were trying to find a place
592
00:36:13,930 --> 00:36:16,470
where we could
start working on our music.
593
00:36:18,350 --> 00:36:21,560
Albert Grossman, Bob's manager,
594
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,560
he had a place up
in Woodstock, New York.
595
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:30,600
Albert was an anomaly in the world
of the record businesspeople.
596
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:32,100
He didn't wear a suit.
597
00:36:32,100 --> 00:36:35,140
His had his hair tied back
in a ponytail.
598
00:36:35,140 --> 00:36:38,260
He looked like an overweight
Benjamin Franklin.
599
00:36:38,260 --> 00:36:40,560
Albert took very good care
of his artists.
600
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:44,220
But as far as dealing with
other people, he was shrewd.
601
00:36:44,220 --> 00:36:48,010
Bob had moved up to Woodstock,
got a house.
602
00:36:48,010 --> 00:36:50,850
Albert would go up there
on the weekends.
603
00:36:50,850 --> 00:36:53,760
So Albert says,
"Come up to Woodstock.
604
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,760
"There's so much room up there.
You can get a place.
605
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:59,350
"You can make all
the sounds you want."
606
00:37:01,970 --> 00:37:05,310
It was a very
welcoming possibility.
607
00:37:05,310 --> 00:37:07,930
# He sits in your room
608
00:37:07,930 --> 00:37:11,310
# His tomb with
a fistful of tacks... #
609
00:37:11,310 --> 00:37:15,010
Rick found us this ugly pink house.
610
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:24,140
This is just what I've been dreaming
about all these years -
611
00:37:24,140 --> 00:37:26,430
a sanctuary that we could
612
00:37:26,430 --> 00:37:29,220
go and write and create.
613
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:35,560
Oh, my God, I mean, a...
614
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:37,560
..pretty corny house, you know?
615
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:39,060
But it was perfect.
616
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:45,890
So we moved up to Woodstock.
617
00:37:45,890 --> 00:37:51,640
We built a little studio in the
basement, just for writing purposes.
618
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:54,310
Garth, Richard, and Rick
619
00:37:54,310 --> 00:37:56,310
moved into this house.
620
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:00,310
I called Bob,
and I drive him out there
621
00:38:00,310 --> 00:38:02,310
to show him the place.
622
00:38:02,310 --> 00:38:05,180
And he comes in
and he looks at this basement,
623
00:38:05,180 --> 00:38:08,180
and he sees all the instruments
set up there,
624
00:38:08,180 --> 00:38:10,970
a little tape recorder,
some microphones.
625
00:38:10,970 --> 00:38:15,220
He says, "Can you record music
in this place?"
626
00:38:15,220 --> 00:38:17,850
And I was like, "Yeah, we've got
that little tape recorder.
627
00:38:17,850 --> 00:38:19,220
"It's not...
628
00:38:19,220 --> 00:38:21,100
"..you know, a recording studio,
629
00:38:21,100 --> 00:38:23,600
"but it's pretty good
for writing and stuff. "
630
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:26,640
"He said, "Listen, I've got
a couple of song ideas
631
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:30,510
"I've been kicking around.
Maybe we could try them here."
632
00:38:30,510 --> 00:38:34,010
Great! That's the spirit.
633
00:38:34,010 --> 00:38:36,260
# Now look here, dear Sue
634
00:38:36,260 --> 00:38:38,470
# You best feed the cats
635
00:38:38,470 --> 00:38:40,640
# The cats need feeding
636
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:43,060
# You're the one to do it
637
00:38:43,060 --> 00:38:45,350
# Get your head
638
00:38:45,350 --> 00:38:47,180
# Feed the cats
639
00:38:47,180 --> 00:38:49,390
# You ain't going nowhere... #
640
00:38:51,890 --> 00:38:53,760
Bob would come by, you know,
641
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,430
every day for about a six,
seven-month period, and we'd...
642
00:38:56,430 --> 00:38:59,810
..we'd get together every afternoon
six to seven days a week.
643
00:38:59,810 --> 00:39:03,350
And just from us getting together
and applying ourselves,
644
00:39:03,350 --> 00:39:06,640
a lot does come out of that.
645
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,970
In the living room, there
was a couple of typewriters,
646
00:39:09,970 --> 00:39:12,680
because Bob wrote songs
on a typewriter.
647
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:15,260
And he'd say,
"Guys, let's go, let's go.
648
00:39:15,260 --> 00:39:17,140
"I think I got something. Let's go."
649
00:39:17,140 --> 00:39:19,470
We'd all go downstairs,
we would record it.
650
00:39:20,930 --> 00:39:22,850
DYLAN: No, not any harmony,
651
00:39:22,850 --> 00:39:26,680
but harmony in the
background like, "Ooh!"
652
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:28,390
# Whoa-oh... #
Yeah, right.
653
00:39:28,390 --> 00:39:29,850
# Why, why? #
654
00:39:29,850 --> 00:39:31,720
You know, just...
# Oh, why...
655
00:39:31,720 --> 00:39:34,930
Every time I go to town
656
00:39:34,930 --> 00:39:38,430
# The bars keep
kicking my dog around
657
00:39:38,430 --> 00:39:41,890
# I don't know why I'm going to town
658
00:39:41,890 --> 00:39:44,390
# I don't know
why they kick my dog around
659
00:39:44,390 --> 00:39:47,600
# Let me hear you now!
Dog, dog, dog
660
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:50,350
# Dog, dog, dog... #
661
00:39:50,350 --> 00:39:54,100
Working with Bob,
I saw a door opening.
662
00:39:54,100 --> 00:39:56,890
He was making the possibility
663
00:39:56,890 --> 00:40:00,510
of using poetry in songwriting
664
00:40:00,510 --> 00:40:03,680
like I had never quite seen before.
665
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:06,680
It gave you a sense of liberty.
666
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,220
You used to think, "I don't know
if you can do that.
667
00:40:09,220 --> 00:40:11,850
"I don't know, is it all right
to say that?
668
00:40:11,850 --> 00:40:14,640
"Can you express things
in that kind of way?"
669
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:16,760
Boom - no rules.
670
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:18,930
# Well, that big, dumb blonde
671
00:40:18,930 --> 00:40:21,350
# With her wheel gorged
672
00:40:21,350 --> 00:40:23,060
# Turtle, that friend of hers
673
00:40:23,060 --> 00:40:25,140
# With his cheque all forged
674
00:40:25,140 --> 00:40:26,970
# And his cheeks in a chunk
675
00:40:26,970 --> 00:40:29,260
# With his cheese in the cash
676
00:40:29,260 --> 00:40:31,100
# They're all going to be there
677
00:40:31,100 --> 00:40:33,010
# At that million-dollar bash... #
678
00:40:34,310 --> 00:40:36,310
Robbie is a real artist.
679
00:40:36,310 --> 00:40:39,220
He is an amazing creative force.
680
00:40:40,720 --> 00:40:44,310
I never saw him without a little pad
of paper and a pencil,
681
00:40:44,310 --> 00:40:47,100
writing notes about everything.
682
00:40:47,100 --> 00:40:51,970
Some thought, some idea
that he could use later in a song.
683
00:40:51,970 --> 00:40:55,140
# She reads the leaves
684
00:40:55,140 --> 00:40:58,060
# And she leads the life
685
00:40:58,060 --> 00:41:01,760
# That she learned so well
686
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,970
# From the old wives
687
00:41:04,970 --> 00:41:07,890
# It's so strange to arrange... #
688
00:41:07,890 --> 00:41:11,350
When Dominique was
becoming my girlfriend,
689
00:41:11,350 --> 00:41:14,560
her connection to French literature,
690
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:16,720
poetry, music,
691
00:41:16,720 --> 00:41:19,470
was rubbing off on me.
692
00:41:19,470 --> 00:41:22,600
The path that I was
on intellectually,
693
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:24,680
boom, she altered it,
694
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:28,060
and I was being highly inspired
695
00:41:28,060 --> 00:41:31,510
by what she was bringing
to the table as well.
696
00:41:37,430 --> 00:41:40,850
# I can't get to you... #
697
00:41:40,850 --> 00:41:44,640
Albert Grossman
was thinking about getting
698
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:46,560
the Hawks a record deal.
699
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:49,180
So he said, "You need to record
700
00:41:49,180 --> 00:41:51,560
"a couple of your tunes
so I can play them
701
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:53,680
"for some record companies."
702
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:56,470
So we went into a studio,
703
00:41:56,470 --> 00:41:58,510
and we got a session drummer.
704
00:41:58,510 --> 00:42:01,310
I was really not satisfied
705
00:42:01,310 --> 00:42:03,180
with what we did.
706
00:42:03,180 --> 00:42:06,430
If you have a...a table
and one of the legs is missing,
707
00:42:06,430 --> 00:42:08,350
it doesn't sit steady.
708
00:42:08,350 --> 00:42:12,810
This was the sign,
it's time for him to come back.
709
00:42:12,810 --> 00:42:14,640
We got to find Levon.
710
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:17,180
# Ain't no more cane
711
00:42:17,180 --> 00:42:20,140
# On the Brazos
712
00:42:22,390 --> 00:42:26,310
# Ooh, ooh, ooh... #
713
00:42:28,140 --> 00:42:30,180
We tracked him down and we told him
714
00:42:30,180 --> 00:42:32,720
about the place we had,
and that we were
715
00:42:32,720 --> 00:42:35,220
going to get a record deal
and all of this,
716
00:42:35,220 --> 00:42:40,260
and you could hear
the joy in his voice.
717
00:42:40,260 --> 00:42:42,470
# You should've been on the river
718
00:42:42,470 --> 00:42:46,970
# In 1910... #
719
00:42:46,970 --> 00:42:50,180
I remember meeting him
and he was such a nice guy.
720
00:42:50,180 --> 00:42:52,220
He was such a charming person.
721
00:42:52,220 --> 00:42:54,430
There was a sense of relief
722
00:42:54,430 --> 00:42:56,310
in the band that he was back,
723
00:42:56,310 --> 00:42:59,560
and hopefully he would stay.
724
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:02,720
LEVON: Moved into the house there,
there was an extra spot for me,
725
00:43:02,720 --> 00:43:06,600
and uh, started getting' together,
and just putting songs together.
726
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:10,180
I had the sense that Levon realised
he was coming back to a good thing.
727
00:43:10,180 --> 00:43:13,560
They were on a salary, they were
able to make their own music.
728
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:16,680
Woodstock was full of
young people and lots of girls.
729
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:20,720
It was better than being
on an oil rig in the middle
of the Gulf of Mexico.
730
00:43:20,720 --> 00:43:24,010
Robbie played the tapes that they
had made - The Basement Tapes.
731
00:43:24,010 --> 00:43:25,970
# Katie's been gone
732
00:43:25,970 --> 00:43:28,060
# Since the springtime
733
00:43:28,060 --> 00:43:31,470
# She wrote one time
and sent her love
734
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:34,180
# Katie's been gone
735
00:43:34,180 --> 00:43:36,310
# For such along time now... #
736
00:43:36,310 --> 00:43:40,850
Levon's reaction was
so extraordinary.
737
00:43:40,850 --> 00:43:43,640
He was blown away.
738
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:46,470
LEVON: We had never that kind of
time on our hands,
739
00:43:46,470 --> 00:43:48,260
and there we are in the...
740
00:43:48,260 --> 00:43:50,930
..in the Catskills, and we don't
have a show to play that night,
741
00:43:50,930 --> 00:43:54,060
so we were enjoying it,
just sitting around, you know,
742
00:43:54,060 --> 00:43:56,220
the freedom to go down
and play some music,
743
00:43:56,220 --> 00:44:00,010
or go outside and throw
a football around at each other.
744
00:44:00,010 --> 00:44:01,930
That was just part of a...
745
00:44:01,930 --> 00:44:04,350
..a lifestyle that we got to love
746
00:44:04,350 --> 00:44:07,680
in Woodstock, you know,
just being able to chap wood,
747
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:10,640
or hit your thumb with a hammer.
748
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:13,760
We'd be concerned
with fixing the tape recorder
749
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:15,760
and getting the songs together.
750
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:19,600
# We can talk about it now
751
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:21,850
# It's that same old riddle
752
00:44:21,850 --> 00:44:25,180
# Only starting from the middle
753
00:44:25,180 --> 00:44:28,180
I'd fix it but I don't know how... #
754
00:44:28,180 --> 00:44:30,680
We had come out
with a different sound,
755
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:32,760
a different sensibility.
756
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:36,600
The music didn't
sound anything like what we did
757
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:39,720
with Ronnie Hawkins,
like anything we did
758
00:44:39,720 --> 00:44:41,560
as Levon and the Hawks.
759
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:44,220
It didn't sound like
anything we did
760
00:44:44,220 --> 00:44:47,350
with Bob Dylan on the infamous tour,
761
00:44:47,350 --> 00:44:51,060
so having a new name
felt natural as well.
762
00:44:53,100 --> 00:44:56,930
# Pulling that eternal plough
763
00:44:56,930 --> 00:45:00,310
We've got to find a sharper blade
764
00:45:00,310 --> 00:45:02,390
# Or have a new one made... #
765
00:45:02,390 --> 00:45:04,760
In the town, people'd say,
766
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:08,060
"Oh, those guys, they play
with Bob. They're in the band."
767
00:45:08,060 --> 00:45:10,100
And we kept hearing,
768
00:45:10,100 --> 00:45:12,810
"the band," "the band," "the band."
769
00:45:12,810 --> 00:45:15,350
And it felt unpretentious,
770
00:45:15,350 --> 00:45:17,220
un-jivy,
771
00:45:17,220 --> 00:45:18,810
un-cute.
772
00:45:18,810 --> 00:45:21,680
Just strictly The Band.
773
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:24,260
RICK: We had done a lot of
pre-production work, of course,
774
00:45:24,260 --> 00:45:27,680
at Big Pink. Robbie was doing
a lot of the songwriting,
775
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:29,760
you know, and doing
a lot more homework likely
776
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:32,680
than the rest of us.
It was just a question of us
777
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:35,010
arranging them,
and putting them together,
778
00:45:35,010 --> 00:45:36,890
and making them
as strong as possible
779
00:45:36,890 --> 00:45:38,060
and working together.
780
00:45:39,390 --> 00:45:42,010
# We can talk about it now. #
781
00:45:43,510 --> 00:45:46,680
I came back to the
house one evening.
782
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:48,720
I thought, "I got to do some writing
783
00:45:48,720 --> 00:45:51,060
"for this record
that we're working on."
784
00:45:51,060 --> 00:45:53,470
And I'm thinking, "What am I
going to write about?"
785
00:45:53,470 --> 00:45:56,060
And I'm sitting there with a guitar,
786
00:45:56,060 --> 00:45:57,760
noodling around.
787
00:45:59,350 --> 00:46:03,140
I look in the guitar, and inside,
788
00:46:03,140 --> 00:46:04,850
on Martin Guitars,
789
00:46:04,850 --> 00:46:08,220
it talks about where they're made.
790
00:46:08,220 --> 00:46:11,390
And they're made
in Nazareth, Pennsylvania.
791
00:46:12,890 --> 00:46:15,810
# I pulled into Nazareth... #
792
00:46:15,810 --> 00:46:18,600
And it just, it was
all coming to me.
793
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:20,810
Going from Canada
794
00:46:20,810 --> 00:46:23,060
down to the Mississippi Delta
795
00:46:23,060 --> 00:46:25,720
when I was 16 years old,
796
00:46:25,720 --> 00:46:29,560
characters and circumstances,
797
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:32,970
all of it started
to come back to me.
798
00:46:32,970 --> 00:46:35,010
And when I got to this chorus...
799
00:46:35,010 --> 00:46:37,930
HE PLAYS CHORUS TO "THE WEIGHT"
800
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:41,680
And I could hear these voices...
801
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:43,600
# And
And
802
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:45,100
# And
803
00:46:45,100 --> 00:46:48,640
# You put the load right on me. #
804
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:53,140
And the whole thing
just blended together.
805
00:46:53,140 --> 00:46:57,350
MUSIC: The Weight
by The Band
806
00:47:03,060 --> 00:47:05,680
# I pulled into Nazareth
807
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:09,720
# Was feelin' about half-past dead
808
00:47:09,720 --> 00:47:12,390
# I just need some place
809
00:47:12,390 --> 00:47:16,430
# Where I can lay my head
810
00:47:16,430 --> 00:47:21,510
# "Hey, mister, can you tell me
where a man might find a bed?"
811
00:47:22,720 --> 00:47:25,890
# He just grinned and shook my hand
812
00:47:25,890 --> 00:47:27,760
# "No," was all he said
813
00:47:29,510 --> 00:47:32,470
# Take a load off, Fanny
814
00:47:32,470 --> 00:47:35,140
# Take a load for free... #
815
00:47:35,140 --> 00:47:37,430
We discovered a whole vocal thing
816
00:47:37,430 --> 00:47:40,060
that we weren't aware that
we even had.
817
00:47:40,060 --> 00:47:41,720
# And
And
818
00:47:41,720 --> 00:47:42,850
# And
819
00:47:42,850 --> 00:47:45,600
# You put the load right on me
You put the load right on me... #
820
00:47:49,850 --> 00:47:51,810
I remember listening to playbacks
821
00:47:51,810 --> 00:47:55,180
after the sessions
of songs and thinking,
822
00:47:55,180 --> 00:47:57,680
"I really like this stuff.
823
00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:01,060
"And...I don't have
anything to compare it to,
824
00:48:01,060 --> 00:48:03,890
"but I really like it,
and I hope everybody else does
825
00:48:03,890 --> 00:48:06,220
"cos I really think this is strong."
826
00:48:06,220 --> 00:48:10,720
# I said, "Hey, Carmen,
come on, let's go downtown"
827
00:48:12,470 --> 00:48:17,060
# She said, "I got to go,
but my friend can stick around"
828
00:48:18,810 --> 00:48:21,180
# Take a load off, Fanny
829
00:48:22,260 --> 00:48:25,390
# Take a load for free
830
00:48:25,390 --> 00:48:27,810
# Take a load off, Fanny
831
00:48:29,390 --> 00:48:31,140
# And
And
832
00:48:31,140 --> 00:48:32,310
# And
833
00:48:32,310 --> 00:48:35,140
# You put the load right on me
You put the load right on me... #
834
00:48:41,140 --> 00:48:45,890
I was very excited
playing this record for Bob.
835
00:48:45,890 --> 00:48:48,850
He hadn't heard a note of it.
836
00:48:48,850 --> 00:48:50,640
The Weight comes on,
837
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:52,760
he's like, "Wait a minute.
Who wrote that?"
838
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:54,760
And I said, "I... I wrote that."
839
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:56,970
He said, "You wrote that?"
840
00:48:56,970 --> 00:49:01,430
And I could just see
the pride in his eyes.
841
00:49:01,430 --> 00:49:04,100
# He said "Do me a favour, son,
842
00:49:04,100 --> 00:49:08,140
# "Won't you stay and keep
Anna Lee company?"
843
00:49:08,140 --> 00:49:11,220
# Take a load off, Fanny
844
00:49:11,220 --> 00:49:13,510
# Take a load for free
845
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:18,180
# Take a load off, Fanny
846
00:49:18,180 --> 00:49:19,930
# And
And
847
00:49:19,930 --> 00:49:21,430
# And
848
00:49:21,430 --> 00:49:25,220
# You put the load right on me
You put the load right on me... #
849
00:49:25,220 --> 00:49:27,180
SPRINGSTEEN: I think I was
in a little coffee shop
850
00:49:27,180 --> 00:49:29,390
in Redbank, New Jersey.
851
00:49:29,390 --> 00:49:31,430
A kid came in with
Music From Big Pink
852
00:49:31,430 --> 00:49:33,180
and put it on the sound system.
853
00:49:33,180 --> 00:49:35,010
It was late at night, after...
854
00:49:35,010 --> 00:49:37,180
..after the place
was about to close down,
855
00:49:37,180 --> 00:49:39,010
which was a fantastic moment
856
00:49:39,010 --> 00:49:41,760
to be introduced
to that music, you know?
857
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:44,720
And suddenly this music comes on
and everything changes.
858
00:49:44,720 --> 00:49:47,680
# Fought for the party
to kingdom come
859
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:50,760
# Sadly told his only son
860
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:53,390
# Just be careful what you do
861
00:49:53,390 --> 00:49:55,680
# It all comes back on you... #
862
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:58,140
CLAPTON: When I heard
Big Pink, it was as if someone
863
00:49:58,140 --> 00:50:00,600
had, like, nailed me
through the chest to the wall.
864
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:03,890
I was just immediately converted.
865
00:50:03,890 --> 00:50:07,350
That was when Cream was
in its sort of, uh, mid-stage,
866
00:50:07,350 --> 00:50:10,140
and pretty much severed
my connection with the other two
867
00:50:10,140 --> 00:50:13,470
in the band. And I thought,
"This is what I want to do."
868
00:50:13,470 --> 00:50:15,350
It changed my life.
869
00:50:15,350 --> 00:50:18,350
They weren't reading out of
the modern book of music.
870
00:50:18,350 --> 00:50:20,390
They went to the source.
871
00:50:20,390 --> 00:50:21,760
As you'd say in the Caribbean,
872
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:24,890
"They was musical
to the core, to the bone".
873
00:50:24,890 --> 00:50:28,100
If there was any American musicians
874
00:50:28,100 --> 00:50:31,720
that were comparable
to what The Beatles were,
875
00:50:31,720 --> 00:50:33,310
It would've been them.
876
00:50:33,310 --> 00:50:36,720
# We've been sitting here
for so darn long
877
00:50:36,720 --> 00:50:39,600
# Waiting for the end to come along
878
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:41,970
# Holy roaster on the brink
879
00:50:41,970 --> 00:50:44,470
# I'd take a choice -
swim or sink... #
880
00:50:46,390 --> 00:50:50,140
SPRINGSTEEN: This is the middle of
psychedelic era in popular music,
881
00:50:50,140 --> 00:50:52,010
so something comes along
882
00:50:52,010 --> 00:50:55,140
that is the antithesis
of where music had been moving.
883
00:50:55,140 --> 00:50:56,760
Here come all these voices
884
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:59,640
that sound like you've never heard
them before,
885
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:02,810
and like they've always
been there, forever and ever.
886
00:51:02,810 --> 00:51:07,310
# Oh, to be home again
887
00:51:07,310 --> 00:51:10,600
# Down in old Virginny
888
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:14,390
# With my very best friend
889
00:51:14,390 --> 00:51:17,600
# They call him Ragtime Willie
890
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:21,640
# We're going to soothe away
the rest of our years
891
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:25,760
# We're going to put away
all of our tears
892
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:30,430
# That big rockin' chair
won't go nowhere... #
893
00:51:32,100 --> 00:51:34,310
It was very clear the moment
I met them
894
00:51:34,310 --> 00:51:36,180
who they were
and what they were about.
895
00:51:36,180 --> 00:51:37,390
They were very grounded.
896
00:51:37,390 --> 00:51:40,260
They were very strong.
They were very secure.
897
00:51:40,260 --> 00:51:43,220
They were gracious, like country
people are gracious,
898
00:51:43,220 --> 00:51:45,510
and they were totally in love
with their music,
899
00:51:45,510 --> 00:51:47,310
and they were in love
with each other.
900
00:51:47,310 --> 00:51:50,140
I never saw any jealousy,
I never saw any arguments,
901
00:51:50,140 --> 00:51:51,640
I never saw them disagree.
902
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:53,720
It was always supporting each other.
903
00:51:53,720 --> 00:51:55,220
They were five brothers,
904
00:51:55,220 --> 00:51:57,310
very clearly five brothers
who loved each other,
905
00:51:57,310 --> 00:51:59,810
and I never saw anything but that.
906
00:51:59,810 --> 00:52:04,760
In the '60s, part of the rebellion
was rejecting one's elders,
907
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:06,930
rejecting one's parents.
908
00:52:06,930 --> 00:52:09,680
The guys in The Band wanted to say,
909
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:12,260
"Hey, that's not right.
We love our parents.
910
00:52:12,260 --> 00:52:16,640
"They worked very hard to bring us
up and care for us."
911
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:21,100
And so they wanted to have a picture
of their families in the album.
912
00:52:21,100 --> 00:52:25,430
# Would've been nice
just to see the folks
913
00:52:25,430 --> 00:52:29,600
# Listen once again
to the stale old jokes
914
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:33,760
# That big rockin' chair
won't go nowhere... #
915
00:52:38,010 --> 00:52:42,100
It was a magical time
within this group.
916
00:52:42,100 --> 00:52:43,470
We're getting somewhere.
917
00:52:48,470 --> 00:52:50,470
They made Big Pink
and then Robbie said,
918
00:52:50,470 --> 00:52:52,850
"We want to go out on the road."
919
00:52:52,850 --> 00:52:55,970
Then Rick drove
his car into a ditch...
920
00:52:58,010 --> 00:52:59,390
..and broke his neck.
921
00:53:01,510 --> 00:53:04,890
DOMINIQUE: It was a terrible
car accident.
922
00:53:04,890 --> 00:53:08,220
Rick was found wandering
in the woods,
923
00:53:08,220 --> 00:53:10,720
which is pretty extraordinary
for someone who has
924
00:53:10,720 --> 00:53:12,510
just broken his neck.
925
00:53:12,510 --> 00:53:17,310
He was taken to the hospital
and put in traction for
926
00:53:17,310 --> 00:53:19,430
the longest time.
927
00:53:19,430 --> 00:53:21,810
We were all quite scared as
to whether he would recover.
928
00:53:22,810 --> 00:53:25,430
"We're cancelling everything."
929
00:53:25,430 --> 00:53:28,260
Everything just stopped.
930
00:53:28,260 --> 00:53:31,510
Music From Big Pink
becomes this thing,
931
00:53:31,510 --> 00:53:32,850
and we don't show up.
932
00:53:32,850 --> 00:53:34,470
We never play a concert.
933
00:53:34,470 --> 00:53:36,470
They're like, "Who are these guys?"
934
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:42,600
We were becoming
the most mysterious people
935
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:44,470
in the music business.
936
00:53:45,930 --> 00:53:48,260
After we recorded Big Pink,
937
00:53:48,260 --> 00:53:50,180
there is that thing of like,
938
00:53:50,180 --> 00:53:53,560
"Whoa, what do we do now?
Can we follow that up?"
939
00:53:55,850 --> 00:53:59,560
I was working day and night
on musical ideas.
940
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:02,350
Rick got out of the hospital,
and then -
941
00:54:02,350 --> 00:54:05,010
boom - we were back in the studio.
942
00:54:05,010 --> 00:54:07,720
# Rag Mama rag
943
00:54:07,720 --> 00:54:10,560
# I can't believe it's true
944
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:12,930
# Rag Mama rag... #
945
00:54:12,930 --> 00:54:15,310
You hear timeless songwriting,
946
00:54:15,310 --> 00:54:17,890
painting pictures
and telling stories.
947
00:54:17,890 --> 00:54:22,430
A cohesion which is greater
than the sum of the parts.
948
00:54:22,430 --> 00:54:24,600
They were the very first band
949
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:26,640
who got it together
in a country house,
950
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:28,760
which became a big thing.
951
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:31,010
When you shut out
the rest of the world
952
00:54:31,010 --> 00:54:33,640
and the city,
and just concentrate on...
953
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:37,310
..music-making and performing
and each other,
954
00:54:37,310 --> 00:54:39,430
you get a different sort of result.
955
00:54:40,970 --> 00:54:43,720
# Up on Cripple Creek
She sends me
956
00:54:43,720 --> 00:54:45,310
# If I spring a leak... #
957
00:54:45,310 --> 00:54:48,310
Taking some of that roots music,
958
00:54:48,310 --> 00:54:50,220
a little bit of Muddy Waters,
959
00:54:50,220 --> 00:54:52,220
a little bit of Hank Williams,
960
00:54:52,220 --> 00:54:54,510
no long guitar solos,
961
00:54:54,510 --> 00:54:56,810
it was just simple,
straightforward music.
962
00:54:56,810 --> 00:54:59,220
Nowadays we call it Americana.
963
00:55:03,970 --> 00:55:05,430
I was in Boston.
964
00:55:05,430 --> 00:55:08,430
I was sleeping on a coach,
and it was I Shall Be Released
965
00:55:08,430 --> 00:55:10,680
was what came on.
966
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:13,350
I thought, "Oh yeah,
there's...there's something...
967
00:55:13,350 --> 00:55:15,100
"I'm connecting with
something here."
968
00:55:15,100 --> 00:55:16,560
That's what I thought.
969
00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:19,430
I got an impression there was
a lot of mythology going on.
970
00:55:19,430 --> 00:55:24,010
# Standin' by your window in pain
971
00:55:25,220 --> 00:55:27,640
# A pistol in your hand... #
972
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:30,510
You'd never really heard a
sound like that.
973
00:55:30,510 --> 00:55:33,970
It also it reminded me greatly
of 19th century literature,
974
00:55:33,970 --> 00:55:35,470
American literature.
975
00:55:35,470 --> 00:55:39,850
# Try and understand your man
the best you can
976
00:55:39,850 --> 00:55:43,060
# Across the great divide
977
00:55:43,060 --> 00:55:45,350
# Just grab your hat
978
00:55:45,350 --> 00:55:48,220
# And take that ride... #
979
00:55:48,220 --> 00:55:49,810
Particularly Melville.
980
00:55:49,810 --> 00:55:53,760
There's something about the Melville
stories, and the sense of...
981
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:57,140
..searching The Band
brings to mind for me.
982
00:55:57,140 --> 00:56:00,310
Each song is like
a little John Steinbeck novel.
983
00:56:00,310 --> 00:56:02,850
Steinbeck also gives you these
images of America,
984
00:56:02,850 --> 00:56:04,560
of dust bowl America.
985
00:56:08,060 --> 00:56:11,970
# Unfaithful servant
986
00:56:11,970 --> 00:56:13,850
# I hear you... #
987
00:56:13,850 --> 00:56:15,970
I spent quite a bit of time
with The Band,
988
00:56:15,970 --> 00:56:18,220
and one of the
things that Robbie said to me
989
00:56:18,220 --> 00:56:20,430
was the fact that when
he wrote a tune,
990
00:56:20,430 --> 00:56:22,600
he had all these different singers
who could sing the song.
991
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:25,890
And he could write lyrics,
like, to write a song
992
00:56:25,890 --> 00:56:27,930
knowing that Levon
was going to sing it.
993
00:56:27,930 --> 00:56:29,430
You know, you could be...
994
00:56:29,430 --> 00:56:30,720
..you could write much different
995
00:56:30,720 --> 00:56:33,100
to knowing if you were going
to have to do it yourself.
996
00:56:33,100 --> 00:56:36,600
# Or did you do it
just for the glory...? #
997
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:39,140
When they came together,
something happened
998
00:56:39,140 --> 00:56:42,470
that could not have occurred on
their own or individually.
999
00:56:42,470 --> 00:56:44,760
You know, something...
1000
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:46,180
..miraculous occurred.
1001
00:56:47,430 --> 00:56:49,760
# She really cared
1002
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:51,930
# The time she spared... #
1003
00:56:57,220 --> 00:57:02,470
We were booked to play our first job
as The Band at Winterland,
1004
00:57:02,470 --> 00:57:05,850
in San Francisco,
with Bill Graham presenting.
1005
00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:12,010
We went up to San Francisco,
like, two days early.
1006
00:57:12,010 --> 00:57:14,430
Robbie is sick as a dog.
1007
00:57:14,430 --> 00:57:18,390
I'm completely drained.
1008
00:57:18,390 --> 00:57:22,390
And it hits me - the last time
we played together
1009
00:57:22,390 --> 00:57:25,720
everybody boos us
everywhere we go, right?
1010
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:30,060
Am I having some kind
of stage fright thing?
1011
00:57:30,060 --> 00:57:33,180
He's got a fever of 103.
1012
00:57:33,180 --> 00:57:36,890
I'm saying to Bill Graham,
"We've got to cancel. I'm sorry."
1013
00:57:36,890 --> 00:57:40,180
Bill Graham says, "Impossible.
1014
00:57:40,180 --> 00:57:43,560
"There is no way in the world
that we can cancel this."
1015
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:45,760
And finally Bill says,
1016
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:51,140
"What do you think about the idea
of us bringing in a hypnotist?"
1017
00:57:54,310 --> 00:57:57,310
A little guy, about 5'8",
1018
00:57:57,310 --> 00:58:00,220
black suit, white carnation,
shows up,
1019
00:58:00,220 --> 00:58:01,970
and he puts him under.
1020
00:58:03,470 --> 00:58:08,560
And he's saying, "Your stomach
will feel as calm as a lake.
1021
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:12,060
"Your head feels
as cool as a winter breeze."
1022
00:58:14,010 --> 00:58:17,720
The next thing I know,
my head doesn't feel so bad.
1023
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:19,640
And I'm thinking,
1024
00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:21,350
"I'll be damned,
1025
00:58:21,350 --> 00:58:27,350
I'm actually feeling stronger
and better than I was before."
1026
00:58:27,350 --> 00:58:31,310
He says, "Any time you start
to feel too weak,
1027
00:58:31,310 --> 00:58:37,470
you look over at me and I'm going to
say to you, 'Grow.'"
1028
00:58:37,470 --> 00:58:42,140
MUSIC: Chest Fever
by The Band
1029
00:58:58,430 --> 00:59:01,310
CHEERING
1030
00:59:10,350 --> 00:59:15,100
And the crowd is yelling,
and we're playing.
1031
00:59:15,100 --> 00:59:18,350
And I look over at him
and he goes,
1032
00:59:18,350 --> 00:59:19,470
"Grow."
1033
00:59:21,100 --> 00:59:24,180
This guy had to be onstage
with Robbie.
1034
00:59:24,180 --> 00:59:27,180
This was the first concert I'd ever
experienced with them, so...
1035
00:59:27,180 --> 00:59:28,930
..what did I know?
1036
00:59:28,930 --> 00:59:32,060
But I know that usually there's not
a hypnotist onstage.
1037
00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:38,350
Everybody got
their own starring moment.
1038
00:59:38,350 --> 00:59:40,010
Rick had his songs.
1039
00:59:40,010 --> 00:59:42,430
Garth got to do Chest Fever,
1040
00:59:42,430 --> 00:59:44,640
and Richard was brilliant.
1041
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:48,640
So in those first year and a half,
it was amazing.
1042
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:50,470
# Can't be here no more
1043
00:59:51,470 --> 00:59:55,720
# And as my mind unweaves
1044
00:59:55,720 --> 01:00:00,850
# I feel the freeze down in my knees
1045
01:00:00,850 --> 01:00:05,310
# But just before she leaves
1046
01:00:05,310 --> 01:00:08,390
# She receives... #
1047
01:00:10,470 --> 01:00:13,060
Well, when we first
went out on tour,
1048
01:00:13,060 --> 01:00:16,060
they were famous because of their
relationship with Bob Dylan,
1049
01:00:16,060 --> 01:00:18,680
but here they were now
as themselves.
1050
01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:22,680
This was THE Band.
That brought about a fame
1051
01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:24,970
to them that they had
never had before.
1052
01:00:24,970 --> 01:00:26,890
Folks, The Band.
1053
01:00:26,890 --> 01:00:29,560
CHEERING
1054
01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:32,350
MUSIC: Slippin' And Slidin'
by The Band
1055
01:00:46,930 --> 01:00:50,140
# Slippin' and slidin'
Peekin' and hidin'
1056
01:00:50,140 --> 01:00:53,220
# Been told along time ago... #
1057
01:00:53,220 --> 01:00:55,930
And I got the chance to
go and meet Robbie.
1058
01:00:55,930 --> 01:00:58,310
And I went up to Woodstock
to hang with him.
1059
01:00:58,310 --> 01:01:01,140
And the reason I went up there
was to pluck up the nerve
1060
01:01:01,140 --> 01:01:03,350
to ask him if I could join The Band.
1061
01:01:03,350 --> 01:01:05,760
Maybe they needed
a rhythm guitar player!
1062
01:01:13,430 --> 01:01:15,600
And I was wearing pink boots
1063
01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:18,680
and I had curly hair,
just psychedelic.
1064
01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:21,850
And they were kind of really earthy.
1065
01:01:21,850 --> 01:01:23,760
And I was saying,
"Well, let's jam."
1066
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:25,180
And he said, "We don't jam."
1067
01:01:25,180 --> 01:01:27,010
So it was a songwriting outfit.
1068
01:01:28,850 --> 01:01:31,390
# I work for the union... #
1069
01:01:31,390 --> 01:01:33,220
Robbie's listening to the way
1070
01:01:33,220 --> 01:01:35,180
that each of them play,
but the way they worked
1071
01:01:35,180 --> 01:01:37,140
as a unit was, like, incredible.
1072
01:01:37,140 --> 01:01:39,010
Rick was pretty dynamic,
1073
01:01:39,010 --> 01:01:40,930
and he was a very powerful energy.
1074
01:01:40,930 --> 01:01:42,640
Garth was shy,
1075
01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:45,220
and I fell in love with Richard.
1076
01:01:45,220 --> 01:01:48,810
He was the most mournful,
soulful thing I'd ever heard.
1077
01:01:48,810 --> 01:01:51,720
# Last year this time
wasn't no joke
1078
01:01:53,390 --> 01:01:56,560
# My whole barn went up in smoke
1079
01:01:58,100 --> 01:02:02,310
# And our horse, Jethro he went mad
1080
01:02:02,310 --> 01:02:06,310
# And I can't ever remember
things being that bad... #
1081
01:02:07,720 --> 01:02:10,350
God, Richard was
1082
01:02:10,350 --> 01:02:12,720
such a sensitive man.
1083
01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:15,010
Like a wounded bird.
1084
01:02:15,010 --> 01:02:17,930
But a beautiful, beautiful soul.
1085
01:02:18,850 --> 01:02:20,510
He was very fragile,
1086
01:02:20,510 --> 01:02:22,680
and we liked to drink together.
1087
01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:26,470
When you put us together,
there was an instant bond.
1088
01:02:26,470 --> 01:02:29,180
Robbie, in a way,
was kind of outside of that
1089
01:02:29,180 --> 01:02:31,470
because I saw Robbie
as the straight guy.
1090
01:02:31,470 --> 01:02:34,060
He was a guy who
we could drink with,
1091
01:02:34,060 --> 01:02:36,810
but at some point,
he would lose interest in that,
1092
01:02:36,810 --> 01:02:39,220
you know, whereas me and Richard
were the kind of people
1093
01:02:39,220 --> 01:02:41,890
that we would like to drink
together, but we'd drink...
1094
01:02:41,890 --> 01:02:43,760
..we liked drinking
even more on our own.
1095
01:02:47,180 --> 01:02:49,220
Just when The Band
was really hitting,
1096
01:02:49,220 --> 01:02:53,680
the difference between Robbie
and the rest of the band
1097
01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:57,180
was his family was
incredibly important to him.
1098
01:02:57,180 --> 01:02:58,970
He already had a baby.
1099
01:02:58,970 --> 01:03:02,310
Dominique was this incredibly vital,
1100
01:03:02,310 --> 01:03:05,140
smart woman that
he liked hanging with.
1101
01:03:05,140 --> 01:03:07,260
She was incredibly beautiful.
1102
01:03:07,260 --> 01:03:08,970
And the rest of the guys
1103
01:03:08,970 --> 01:03:12,810
were still trying to figure out
did they want a family or not?
1104
01:03:12,810 --> 01:03:16,060
And they were consuming
a lot of drugs,
1105
01:03:16,060 --> 01:03:17,560
playing a lot,
1106
01:03:17,560 --> 01:03:19,970
drinking too much, you know,
everything else.
1107
01:03:21,100 --> 01:03:23,350
In Woodstock, it was...
1108
01:03:23,350 --> 01:03:26,140
..at one point, car accidents.
1109
01:03:26,140 --> 01:03:28,390
And the phone ringing
in the middle of the night
1110
01:03:28,390 --> 01:03:31,510
to say this one or that one
had totalled the car
1111
01:03:31,510 --> 01:03:32,850
or was in the ditch.
1112
01:03:35,220 --> 01:03:37,470
Rick, he was lucky, you know,
1113
01:03:37,470 --> 01:03:39,890
but it became far too often
1114
01:03:39,890 --> 01:03:43,010
that there were
situations like that.
1115
01:03:45,140 --> 01:03:47,890
I had this Mustang
1116
01:03:47,890 --> 01:03:50,310
that Robbie had bought,
1117
01:03:50,310 --> 01:03:53,060
and Richard wanted to drive it.
1118
01:03:53,060 --> 01:03:55,510
I said, "Really, can you do it?"
1119
01:03:55,510 --> 01:03:59,100
And he said, "Well, I sober up
behind the wheel."
1120
01:04:01,470 --> 01:04:03,850
And I said,
"Please, don't go so fast,"
1121
01:04:03,850 --> 01:04:05,680
you know, "Can you see?
Can you see?"
1122
01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:08,220
And he said,
"Oh, I can see like a lynx."
1123
01:04:11,140 --> 01:04:14,100
You know, and I was naive, frankly.
1124
01:04:14,100 --> 01:04:16,390
We hit this curve,
1125
01:04:16,390 --> 01:04:18,510
and it was like every...
1126
01:04:18,510 --> 01:04:21,060
..hit every cement pole
in the curve.
1127
01:04:23,260 --> 01:04:24,680
We ended up in the ditch.
1128
01:04:26,390 --> 01:04:28,220
Then Richard lit a match.
1129
01:04:30,220 --> 01:04:32,470
And I thought,
"You're going to blow the car.
1130
01:04:32,470 --> 01:04:35,100
"We have to get out and push.
Get out. Get out."
1131
01:04:38,180 --> 01:04:42,390
We were at Big Pink and somebody
came rushing up and said,
1132
01:04:42,390 --> 01:04:45,560
"Richard's just had an accident
and he's crashed a new car."
1133
01:04:45,560 --> 01:04:48,970
Levon you know,
jumps into his Corvette
1134
01:04:48,970 --> 01:04:50,810
and rushes to the scene,
1135
01:04:50,810 --> 01:04:53,260
and accidentally crashes
into the police car.
1136
01:04:56,010 --> 01:04:58,890
The cop threw Levon
on the back of a car.
1137
01:04:58,890 --> 01:05:00,560
I think they handcuffed him.
1138
01:05:00,560 --> 01:05:03,760
I don't know how long
it took me, you know,
1139
01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:05,970
to really absorb the shock.
1140
01:05:08,930 --> 01:05:12,510
Richard could've killed Dominique.
1141
01:05:12,510 --> 01:05:13,970
What do you say?
1142
01:05:13,970 --> 01:05:15,350
It pissed me off.
1143
01:05:16,810 --> 01:05:19,760
But it was something
that we weren't educated in
1144
01:05:19,760 --> 01:05:23,430
at the time,
of dealing with alcoholism.
1145
01:05:23,430 --> 01:05:26,720
And all the things
that you think you should do
1146
01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:30,760
is mostly the things that you
should absolutely not do.
1147
01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:34,140
# My biggest mistake
was loving you too much
1148
01:05:34,140 --> 01:05:36,010
# And letting you know
1149
01:05:37,100 --> 01:05:39,640
# Now you've got me
where you want me
1150
01:05:39,640 --> 01:05:42,310
# And you won't let me go
1151
01:05:42,310 --> 01:05:45,430
# If my heart was made of glass
1152
01:05:45,430 --> 01:05:47,390
# Well, then you'd surely see... #
1153
01:05:47,390 --> 01:05:49,350
And after that,
there was a whole period
1154
01:05:49,350 --> 01:05:51,600
where he didn't hardly drink at all.
1155
01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:54,350
So we were holding it at bay.
1156
01:05:54,350 --> 01:05:57,510
MUSIC: Don't Do It
by The Band
1157
01:06:25,560 --> 01:06:28,970
CHEERING
1158
01:06:28,970 --> 01:06:33,760
By this point, there was
an experimenting going on
1159
01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:36,560
that led to heroin.
1160
01:06:36,560 --> 01:06:40,560
And I was confused that
the guys wanted
1161
01:06:40,560 --> 01:06:42,850
to play with that fire.
1162
01:06:44,390 --> 01:06:46,510
That was devastating.
1163
01:06:46,510 --> 01:06:50,220
Nobody had any understanding
of addiction,
1164
01:06:50,220 --> 01:06:52,930
that it's a mental disorder.
1165
01:06:52,930 --> 01:06:56,260
And at the time it felt
very much like a betrayal.
1166
01:06:57,560 --> 01:07:00,600
Robbie might've used,
he might've drank,
1167
01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:04,930
he might've tried different things,
but he did not have that gene
1168
01:07:04,930 --> 01:07:08,470
that would cause him
to become an addict.
1169
01:07:10,680 --> 01:07:13,720
He had a vision, and nothing
was going to get in the way
1170
01:07:13,720 --> 01:07:15,970
of the vision.
1171
01:07:15,970 --> 01:07:20,260
If you think about the summer
of 1969 into '70,
1172
01:07:20,260 --> 01:07:25,430
Music from Big Pink, I think Robbie
wrote less than half the songs.
1173
01:07:25,430 --> 01:07:29,640
By the Brown Album, he wrote
maybe two-thirds of the songs.
1174
01:07:29,640 --> 01:07:33,180
By Stage Fright, he was
writing all of the songs.
1175
01:07:33,180 --> 01:07:36,260
And it wasn't that
he wanted to do that.
1176
01:07:36,260 --> 01:07:38,510
Robbie would start
writing, like,
1177
01:07:38,510 --> 01:07:40,470
at ten in the morning.
1178
01:07:40,470 --> 01:07:45,310
And, to be honest, Levon and Rick
and Richard were still asleep.
1179
01:07:45,310 --> 01:07:48,430
I loved writing with Richard.
1180
01:07:48,430 --> 01:07:51,640
Richard had a beautiful,
melodic ear,
1181
01:07:51,640 --> 01:07:54,140
and he would come up
with chord changes
1182
01:07:54,140 --> 01:07:55,640
I would never find.
1183
01:07:55,640 --> 01:08:01,430
But somehow it just wasn't
happening for him,
1184
01:08:01,430 --> 01:08:06,720
and if I pushed too hard
it made him feel bad.
1185
01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:09,470
With Richard, it was
really poignant.
1186
01:08:09,470 --> 01:08:12,310
I very clearly remember Robbie
pleading with Richard, you know,
1187
01:08:12,310 --> 01:08:15,640
asking him, "Do you have anything,
anything to add to this song?"
1188
01:08:15,640 --> 01:08:17,310
But Richard just didn't have it.
1189
01:08:17,310 --> 01:08:19,100
He didn't have anything to offer.
1190
01:08:20,470 --> 01:08:23,430
It was up to Robbie
and Garth, primarily,
1191
01:08:23,430 --> 01:08:26,850
to keep driving
the basic creative force,
1192
01:08:26,850 --> 01:08:30,810
and hoping that their friends
would keep on.
1193
01:08:32,310 --> 01:08:34,390
During the recording
of Stage Fright,
1194
01:08:34,390 --> 01:08:36,310
heroin was being used.
1195
01:08:36,310 --> 01:08:40,430
It had an effect on their energy,
their ability to be present.
1196
01:08:40,430 --> 01:08:43,430
Levon would sometimes be
nodded out upstairs,
1197
01:08:43,430 --> 01:08:45,140
and it was a little sad, you know,
1198
01:08:45,140 --> 01:08:47,890
because he would come down
and you could still see a look
1199
01:08:47,890 --> 01:08:50,180
in his eye that was
a little strange,
1200
01:08:50,180 --> 01:08:51,720
and it was... It was difficult.
1201
01:08:53,510 --> 01:08:56,810
This is very different
from the very energetic Levon
1202
01:08:56,810 --> 01:08:59,560
that I used to know,
who was always very wiry,
1203
01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:01,560
always up for action,
1204
01:09:01,560 --> 01:09:03,640
up for going after it,
whatever it may be.
1205
01:09:05,100 --> 01:09:06,970
And now it was sort of like
sleepy time.
1206
01:09:06,970 --> 01:09:08,470
That's not easy to deal with.
1207
01:09:09,890 --> 01:09:12,810
It's hard to connect with
somebody who's doing that.
1208
01:09:12,810 --> 01:09:14,850
It's hard to trust.
1209
01:09:14,850 --> 01:09:18,600
It's hard to really keep
a friendship going.
1210
01:09:18,600 --> 01:09:22,140
It was beginning to feel
like a real fracture.
1211
01:09:23,930 --> 01:09:26,060
One day I said to Levon,
1212
01:09:26,060 --> 01:09:29,220
"I can see what's going on.
I know you."
1213
01:09:29,220 --> 01:09:33,260
And he was doing the junkie denial,
1214
01:09:33,260 --> 01:09:36,850
and explaining
and explaining and making excuses
1215
01:09:36,850 --> 01:09:40,010
and laughing and slapping me
on the back.
1216
01:09:40,010 --> 01:09:43,350
And I'd never had this kind of
an encounter with him before.
1217
01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:46,970
We don't do that.
1218
01:09:46,970 --> 01:09:48,680
We don't lie to one another.
1219
01:09:51,220 --> 01:09:53,890
I still loved him,
1220
01:09:53,890 --> 01:09:57,890
but something got broken in that.
1221
01:09:57,890 --> 01:10:02,760
And it was like glass - it was hard
to put back together again.
1222
01:10:04,510 --> 01:10:06,890
It was not just an exasperation.
1223
01:10:06,890 --> 01:10:10,220
It was a feeling that Robbie
could lose everything.
1224
01:10:11,510 --> 01:10:14,970
That brotherhood,
That brotherhood, that friendship,
1225
01:10:14,970 --> 01:10:18,470
that bond, that love that
they had for each other.
1226
01:10:18,470 --> 01:10:20,010
They were terrific guys.
1227
01:10:20,010 --> 01:10:22,850
I loved them myself,
I loved them myself, all of them,
1228
01:10:22,850 --> 01:10:25,720
but when you begin
to function out of fear
1229
01:10:25,720 --> 01:10:29,220
of losing something,
it's maddening.
1230
01:10:29,220 --> 01:10:32,640
I think I wanted something
that I couldn't have,
1231
01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:35,890
which was normalcy
and a regular schedule.
1232
01:10:35,890 --> 01:10:40,220
After the children were born,
my focus changed entirely.
1233
01:10:40,220 --> 01:10:42,390
MUSIC: All La Glory
by The Band
1234
01:10:42,390 --> 01:10:44,970
# Climb up your ladder now
1235
01:10:47,140 --> 01:10:51,430
# It's time for you to dream away
1236
01:10:54,060 --> 01:10:57,510
# For what a big day
you've been through... #
1237
01:10:59,010 --> 01:11:03,100
ROBBIE: Our children
were elevating my life.
1238
01:11:03,100 --> 01:11:08,430
They were making everything
have a beautiful aura around it,
1239
01:11:08,430 --> 01:11:11,350
except when I had to go to work,
1240
01:11:11,350 --> 01:11:17,140
and then this darkness,
this cloud, came back overhead.
1241
01:11:17,140 --> 01:11:20,640
My family was my saving grace.
1242
01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:26,260
# And keep the little one
safe and warm
1243
01:11:26,260 --> 01:11:30,220
# Cos to her it's just a fantasy
1244
01:11:31,720 --> 01:11:36,760
# And to me it's all a mystery... #
1245
01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:41,010
ROBBIE: I had to go from Woodstock
out to Los Angeles,
1246
01:11:41,010 --> 01:11:45,680
and while I was out there
I got a message that this guy
1247
01:11:45,680 --> 01:11:50,430
who had a record company
wanted to meet with me,
1248
01:11:50,430 --> 01:11:53,010
and his name was David Geffen.
1249
01:11:53,010 --> 01:11:55,970
MUSIC: Free Man In Paris
by Joni Mitchell
1250
01:12:01,310 --> 01:12:04,310
# "The way I see it," he said
1251
01:12:04,310 --> 01:12:07,060
# "You just can't win it... #
1252
01:12:07,060 --> 01:12:10,430
In every band, there is someone
who ends up being the leader
1253
01:12:10,430 --> 01:12:11,810
one way or the other.
1254
01:12:11,810 --> 01:12:13,810
And usually the star
is the lead singer.
1255
01:12:13,810 --> 01:12:15,510
In The Band, it wasn't.
1256
01:12:15,510 --> 01:12:16,810
Robbie's a star.
1257
01:12:16,810 --> 01:12:18,100
You put him in any group,
1258
01:12:18,100 --> 01:12:21,390
Robbie'll start talking
and telling stories and performing,
1259
01:12:21,390 --> 01:12:23,510
and he's a star.
1260
01:12:23,510 --> 01:12:28,220
David Geffen was a manager,
a record executive.
1261
01:12:28,220 --> 01:12:32,350
He thought if he could get
Bob Dylan to his record company,
1262
01:12:32,350 --> 01:12:37,010
that would cement him as
the king of the music business.
1263
01:12:37,010 --> 01:12:40,850
David saw Robbie as a way
to make that happen.
1264
01:12:40,850 --> 01:12:43,430
He started romancing Robbie.
1265
01:12:46,010 --> 01:12:49,010
David was incredibly candid,
1266
01:12:49,010 --> 01:12:51,680
incredibly straightforward.
1267
01:12:51,680 --> 01:12:53,430
And back in Woodstock,
1268
01:12:53,430 --> 01:12:58,180
in the world of Albert Grossman
and of Bob Dylan,
1269
01:12:58,180 --> 01:13:00,720
a lot was left unsaid.
1270
01:13:00,720 --> 01:13:04,810
There was something about meeting
with David that was so open.
1271
01:13:04,810 --> 01:13:06,810
I remember saying to Robbie,
1272
01:13:06,810 --> 01:13:10,470
"Of all the places you could
live, why pick Woodstock?
1273
01:13:10,470 --> 01:13:12,890
"Because Albert Grossman
lives here?"
1274
01:13:12,890 --> 01:13:15,850
I thought it was a shithole.
I mean, I hated it.
1275
01:13:15,850 --> 01:13:19,140
I suggested to Robbie
that he move to Malibu.
1276
01:13:19,140 --> 01:13:22,180
# I was a free man in Paris
# I was a free man in Paris
1277
01:13:22,180 --> 01:13:24,810
# I felt unfettered and alive
# I felt unfettered and alive
1278
01:13:24,810 --> 01:13:28,060
# There was nobody
calling me up for favours
1279
01:13:28,060 --> 01:13:30,850
# And no one's future
to decide... #
1280
01:13:30,850 --> 01:13:34,890
If you could imagine, that move
to Malibu, site unseen,
1281
01:13:34,890 --> 01:13:37,560
and it was another
Twilight Zone experiment,
1282
01:13:37,560 --> 01:13:39,930
you know, for me.
1283
01:13:39,930 --> 01:13:42,510
I guess for all of us.
1284
01:13:42,510 --> 01:13:43,970
Robbie loved it.
1285
01:13:54,260 --> 01:13:57,390
It did feel like something fresh.
1286
01:13:57,390 --> 01:13:59,970
He woke up every morning
at the ocean.
1287
01:13:59,970 --> 01:14:02,470
His kids loved it,
his wife loved it.
1288
01:14:02,470 --> 01:14:04,720
You know, I remember Robbie
saying to me,
1289
01:14:04,720 --> 01:14:07,010
"What the fuck was I doing
in Woodstock?"
1290
01:14:08,560 --> 01:14:11,180
I was like, "I'm going to call
the guys and tell them
1291
01:14:11,180 --> 01:14:12,600
"to come out here."
1292
01:14:23,390 --> 01:14:25,680
I thought it would be very
stimulating for Robbie,
1293
01:14:25,680 --> 01:14:27,680
I thought it would be
stimulating for the band,
1294
01:14:27,680 --> 01:14:29,140
and Bob was there.
1295
01:14:29,140 --> 01:14:31,600
Robbie was the one who suggested
I meet him.
1296
01:14:31,600 --> 01:14:34,760
The next thing,
David Geffen is saying,
1297
01:14:34,760 --> 01:14:40,470
"You know, it might be a great idea
for Bob Dylan and The Band
1298
01:14:40,470 --> 01:14:43,640
"to play together again,
and do a tour."
1299
01:14:45,560 --> 01:14:49,510
MUSIC: Endless Highway
by Bob Dylan and The Band
1300
01:15:03,970 --> 01:15:07,140
Bob had basically been
in hiding in Woodstock
1301
01:15:07,140 --> 01:15:09,760
since the tour of '66.
1302
01:15:09,760 --> 01:15:13,180
David somehow managed
to convince Bob
1303
01:15:13,180 --> 01:15:14,760
to come out on the road.
1304
01:15:14,760 --> 01:15:16,510
No-one had seen Bob for years.
1305
01:15:16,510 --> 01:15:18,100
It created quite a stir.
1306
01:15:18,100 --> 01:15:20,260
It was what David Geffen wanted.
1307
01:15:20,260 --> 01:15:24,350
David was just pure,
unleashed ambition.
1308
01:15:24,350 --> 01:15:28,350
# You're going to walk
that endless highway
1309
01:15:32,310 --> 01:15:35,140
# Walk that highway
till you die... #
1310
01:15:36,510 --> 01:15:41,010
ROBBIE: The last time
we played together, in 1966,
1311
01:15:41,010 --> 01:15:43,680
it wasn't very well received.
1312
01:15:43,680 --> 01:15:50,060
Now we go out - it was
embraced like the second coming.
1313
01:15:51,560 --> 01:15:55,510
MUSIC: Knockin' On Heaven's Door
by Bob Dylan and The Band
1314
01:15:57,180 --> 01:15:59,060
We didn't change a thing.
1315
01:15:59,060 --> 01:16:00,760
The world changed.
1316
01:16:00,760 --> 01:16:03,220
It was kind of a good feeling.
1317
01:16:03,220 --> 01:16:06,060
# Mama, take this badge off of me
1318
01:16:06,060 --> 01:16:09,970
CHEERING
1319
01:16:09,970 --> 01:16:12,680
# I can't use it anymore... #
1320
01:16:13,810 --> 01:16:18,350
I had signed The Band and Bob Dylan
to Asylum Records.
1321
01:16:18,350 --> 01:16:20,350
I had a handshake agreement
with them,
1322
01:16:20,350 --> 01:16:21,810
because Bob Dylan said to me,
1323
01:16:21,810 --> 01:16:23,680
"Is my word good for you?"
1324
01:16:23,680 --> 01:16:26,510
And I thought, "Bob Dylan,
he wrote Blowin' In The Wind
1325
01:16:26,510 --> 01:16:29,890
"and The Times They Are A-Changin'.
Yeah, I'll take your word."
1326
01:16:29,890 --> 01:16:33,010
# Knock, knock, knockin'
on heaven's door
1327
01:16:36,140 --> 01:16:40,010
# Knock, knock, knockin'
on heaven's door
1328
01:16:40,010 --> 01:16:42,350
What I remember
What I remember very clearly,
1329
01:16:42,350 --> 01:16:47,180
after the tour of '74 they went
on tour as The Band,
1330
01:16:47,180 --> 01:16:48,850
and not with Bob Dylan.
1331
01:16:48,850 --> 01:16:52,220
MUSIC: The Shape I'm In
by Bob Dylan and The Band
1332
01:16:56,220 --> 01:17:00,140
# Go out yonder, peace in the valley
1333
01:17:00,140 --> 01:17:03,680
# Come downtown,
have to rumble in the alley
1334
01:17:03,680 --> 01:17:08,350
# Oh, you don't know
the shape I'm in... #
1335
01:17:11,470 --> 01:17:15,890
After a while touring,
it was very noticeable that
1336
01:17:15,890 --> 01:17:18,890
there was change afoot.
1337
01:17:18,890 --> 01:17:22,930
# Oh, you don't know
the shape I'm in... #
1338
01:17:24,220 --> 01:17:27,010
We played a gig in Cleveland...
1339
01:17:28,100 --> 01:17:31,470
APPLAUSE AND CHEERING
1340
01:17:31,470 --> 01:17:34,930
..Richard had been
doing heroin,
1341
01:17:34,930 --> 01:17:37,600
and apparently he lost his stash.
1342
01:17:37,600 --> 01:17:39,100
Sorry about the delay.
1343
01:17:39,100 --> 01:17:42,260
Richard Manuel, the pianist,
has taken ill.
1344
01:17:42,260 --> 01:17:44,060
He's being taken care of backstage.
1345
01:17:44,060 --> 01:17:46,600
The Band is going to go on
in a few minutes without Richard.
1346
01:17:46,600 --> 01:17:47,930
Hopefully he'll be fine.
1347
01:17:49,850 --> 01:17:52,220
They actually played
the concert
1348
01:17:52,220 --> 01:17:55,220
They actually played the concert
as a quartet, without Richard,
1349
01:17:55,220 --> 01:17:57,510
as a quartet, without Richard,
and it sounded so strange.
1350
01:17:57,510 --> 01:18:00,850
I kept seeing a lot of looks
between everybody.
1351
01:18:00,850 --> 01:18:04,100
Obviously very
uncomfortable with this.
1352
01:18:04,100 --> 01:18:07,600
# Over by the wildwood
1353
01:18:07,600 --> 01:18:10,510
# Hot summer night... #
1354
01:18:10,510 --> 01:18:13,140
These guys were soldiers,
1355
01:18:13,140 --> 01:18:16,890
but Richard Manuel
had a disease.
1356
01:18:16,890 --> 01:18:20,100
This band was a real band.
1357
01:18:20,100 --> 01:18:24,510
All those spark plugs
needed to be ignited,
1358
01:18:24,510 --> 01:18:26,220
or it didn't work.
1359
01:18:26,220 --> 01:18:29,600
# But a young man serves his country
1360
01:18:29,600 --> 01:18:32,850
# An old man guards the home... #
1361
01:18:32,850 --> 01:18:34,970
At first it was Richard holding
everybody back.
1362
01:18:34,970 --> 01:18:36,560
He wasn't able to play.
1363
01:18:36,560 --> 01:18:38,680
And that's why they called me
out there, to try to
1364
01:18:38,680 --> 01:18:39,930
scare Richard straight.
1365
01:18:39,930 --> 01:18:42,220
Everybody - all of them, it was -
1366
01:18:42,220 --> 01:18:45,760
good, young, honest,
solid guys, all of 'em.
1367
01:18:45,760 --> 01:18:49,350
Two or three years later, they were
different personalities, just about.
1368
01:18:49,350 --> 01:18:53,810
# Don't leave me alone
in the twilight... #
1369
01:18:53,810 --> 01:18:57,970
The rhythm section had definitely
fallen into heavier drugs.
1370
01:18:57,970 --> 01:19:01,560
And once again, it was up to
Robbie and Garth, primarily.
1371
01:19:05,810 --> 01:19:07,930
Levon was doing things that
he would've never done
1372
01:19:07,930 --> 01:19:10,220
in a million years,
if it hadn't been for drugs.
1373
01:19:15,970 --> 01:19:19,560
Levon often complained
about our lawyer,
1374
01:19:19,560 --> 01:19:24,640
about our manager,
and it was a kind of paranoia.
1375
01:19:24,640 --> 01:19:30,760
I would often say, "Don't worry, if
anybody is taking advantage of us,
1376
01:19:30,760 --> 01:19:33,260
"we are going to stop
that immediately."
1377
01:19:34,510 --> 01:19:37,100
But a bitterness set in with him.
1378
01:19:39,220 --> 01:19:42,430
Levon felt something was
being taken away, you know?
1379
01:19:42,430 --> 01:19:46,010
But families, man, nobody
can feud like a family.
1380
01:19:46,010 --> 01:19:48,680
Families can go
to the grave feuding.
1381
01:19:49,890 --> 01:19:52,720
If a person is getting
a little more attention,
1382
01:19:52,720 --> 01:19:55,850
resentment can set in,
you know, and jealousy.
1383
01:19:57,220 --> 01:20:01,510
Robbie kept moving forward,
and not everybody could follow.
1384
01:20:06,970 --> 01:20:08,930
ROBBIE: This is different now.
1385
01:20:08,930 --> 01:20:10,640
This is hard.
1386
01:20:10,640 --> 01:20:12,260
This is kind of painful.
1387
01:20:14,180 --> 01:20:17,010
This could be tragic.
1388
01:20:17,010 --> 01:20:23,220
# Don't leave me alone
in the twilight... #
1389
01:20:23,220 --> 01:20:25,760
I don't know why we're doing this.
1390
01:20:30,930 --> 01:20:33,260
Robbie told me he just didn't want
to go on the road
1391
01:20:33,260 --> 01:20:35,220
with a suitcase full of heroin.
1392
01:20:35,220 --> 01:20:38,680
Robbie was planning
the next step in his life.
1393
01:20:38,680 --> 01:20:41,640
I've always had that sense,
way back from when
1394
01:20:41,640 --> 01:20:45,060
we cut the first album
and we knew we had something,
1395
01:20:45,060 --> 01:20:47,310
and he said he wanted to work
with Ingmar Bergman.
1396
01:20:47,310 --> 01:20:49,890
That's not the usual thing that
a rock and roller would say,
1397
01:20:49,890 --> 01:20:52,140
"I want to work
with Ingmar Bergman."
1398
01:20:55,640 --> 01:21:00,680
There were many elements
that brought this to a head.
1399
01:21:00,680 --> 01:21:03,680
It wasn't only because of drugs.
1400
01:21:03,680 --> 01:21:07,470
After you've been together
for 16 years, you think,
1401
01:21:07,470 --> 01:21:09,970
"We need to be able
to catch our breath."
1402
01:21:11,930 --> 01:21:16,390
I thought, "If we could get
off the treadmill,
1403
01:21:16,390 --> 01:21:20,430
"if we can go and
take care of ourselves,
1404
01:21:20,430 --> 01:21:23,680
"we might be able
to come to our senses."
1405
01:21:23,680 --> 01:21:30,180
My solution was, "Let's bring it to
a culmination in the name of music.
1406
01:21:30,180 --> 01:21:32,180
"That's how we fight back on this."
1407
01:21:32,180 --> 01:21:36,350
MUSIC: Stage Fright
by The Band
1408
01:21:36,350 --> 01:21:37,810
And we did.
1409
01:21:56,350 --> 01:22:00,180
The concert came together so quickly
it was almost shocking.
1410
01:22:00,180 --> 01:22:04,180
I think we started planning
a month before we did it.
1411
01:22:04,180 --> 01:22:07,930
# Now deep in the heart
of a lonely kid
1412
01:22:07,930 --> 01:22:11,890
# Who suffered so much
for what he did
1413
01:22:11,890 --> 01:22:16,220
# They gave this poor boy
his fortune and fame
1414
01:22:16,220 --> 01:22:19,100
# Since that day he ain't
been the same... #
1415
01:22:20,390 --> 01:22:23,260
We decided to do it
with our friends.
1416
01:22:24,760 --> 01:22:27,680
And that's why we felt
comfortable
1417
01:22:27,680 --> 01:22:31,430
with the idea of doing
The Last Waltz.
1418
01:22:32,760 --> 01:22:35,260
# But when we get to the end
1419
01:22:35,260 --> 01:22:38,890
# He wants to start
all over again
1420
01:22:38,890 --> 01:22:41,310
# Just let him take it
from the top... #
1421
01:22:41,310 --> 01:22:44,810
I'm thinking, "We should
document it properly.
1422
01:22:44,810 --> 01:22:49,220
"Let's think of some film-maker
who could tell this story."
1423
01:22:50,810 --> 01:22:52,930
Robbie called me one day,
and he said,
1424
01:22:52,930 --> 01:22:54,970
"These are some of the names
in the line-up -
1425
01:22:54,970 --> 01:22:57,470
"Joni Mitchell, Neil Young,
Van Morrison,
1426
01:22:57,470 --> 01:22:59,310
"Muddy Waters, Eric Clapton.
1427
01:22:59,310 --> 01:23:02,100
"Worse comes to worse, you'd wind up
with the Library of Congress
1428
01:23:02,100 --> 01:23:05,720
"would have 35mm footage
of these extraordinary people,
1429
01:23:05,720 --> 01:23:09,100
"performers and artists.
And that would be it."
1430
01:23:09,100 --> 01:23:12,100
What it became, really,
it was a celebration.
1431
01:23:12,100 --> 01:23:14,220
It was a celebration.
1432
01:23:14,220 --> 01:23:16,350
It was all the influences
of The Band.
1433
01:23:16,350 --> 01:23:20,010
MUSIC: Who Do You Love?
by The Band and Ronnie Hawkins
1434
01:23:22,640 --> 01:23:24,140
Woo!
1435
01:23:24,140 --> 01:23:26,220
Big time, Bill.
1436
01:23:26,220 --> 01:23:27,850
Big time, big time!
1437
01:23:27,850 --> 01:23:31,310
Ronnie Hawkins, when I was
17 years old with him and
1438
01:23:31,310 --> 01:23:36,430
I would play, he would come
over and fan the guitar
1439
01:23:36,430 --> 01:23:40,310
like it's going to go up in flames
if I don't cool it down, you know?
1440
01:23:40,310 --> 01:23:42,970
It was just...
It was so heart-warming.
1441
01:23:42,970 --> 01:23:44,260
Aaaah!
1442
01:23:46,310 --> 01:23:48,510
I went out with the boys
a month early,
1443
01:23:48,510 --> 01:23:51,060
just to see the rehearsals,
because I didn't know
1444
01:23:51,060 --> 01:23:52,970
a lot of these people -
I'd never met 'em.
1445
01:23:52,970 --> 01:23:55,100
I mean, I knew who they were,
big stars.
1446
01:23:55,100 --> 01:23:56,970
You see a lot of weird things
out there.
1447
01:23:56,970 --> 01:24:00,310
And they paid 35,000 cash,
right in front of me,
1448
01:24:00,310 --> 01:24:02,060
for a little ol' bit of cocaine.
1449
01:24:02,060 --> 01:24:04,180
I snorted a couple lines
and I said,
1450
01:24:04,180 --> 01:24:06,560
"Boys, there's enough flour
and sugar in this shit
1451
01:24:06,560 --> 01:24:08,850
"you'll sneeze biscuits
for three fuckin' months,
1452
01:24:08,850 --> 01:24:10,930
after you snort this!"
1453
01:24:10,930 --> 01:24:13,140
And they ended up
buying another one.
1454
01:24:15,510 --> 01:24:18,850
# Yeah, the caravan
is on its way... #
1455
01:24:18,850 --> 01:24:21,140
All I remember is that it was
more of a celebration
1456
01:24:21,140 --> 01:24:22,680
than feeling sad about it.
1457
01:24:22,680 --> 01:24:25,510
And it was great,
all these people.
1458
01:24:25,510 --> 01:24:27,510
And that was a good gig -
it was fun.
1459
01:24:27,510 --> 01:24:28,970
There was no pondering it.
1460
01:24:28,970 --> 01:24:31,310
It was only going to happen once.
You know, hey, presto.
1461
01:24:31,310 --> 01:24:36,470
# La, la, la-la,
# La, la, la-la, La-la, la
1462
01:24:36,470 --> 01:24:41,640
# La la la-la,
# La la la-la, La-la la
1463
01:24:43,310 --> 01:24:46,140
# Yeah, the caravan is
painted red and white... #
1464
01:24:46,140 --> 01:24:49,810
It was a crazy idea,
but we prepared so well.
1465
01:24:49,810 --> 01:24:53,220
I remember doing charts as
to how to shoot, where to shoot,
1466
01:24:53,220 --> 01:24:55,390
which camera picks up
which performer,
1467
01:24:55,390 --> 01:24:59,850
which lyric, which verse,
chorus, what instrument.
1468
01:24:59,850 --> 01:25:02,810
I said, "We shouldn't show the
audience reacting during a song."
1469
01:25:02,810 --> 01:25:05,350
I said, "We've seen it.
So we stay on the stage."
1470
01:25:05,350 --> 01:25:07,810
We had hoped to get
the way The Band works,
1471
01:25:07,810 --> 01:25:10,560
the looks, the glances,
the looks, the glances, the moves.
1472
01:25:10,560 --> 01:25:13,470
So I decided to stay onstage
with the performers
1473
01:25:13,470 --> 01:25:15,100
and how they relate to each other.
1474
01:25:15,100 --> 01:25:17,100
And that was the key
to the whole piece.
1475
01:25:20,100 --> 01:25:22,810
When I found out who was on
the bill, and I thought,
1476
01:25:22,810 --> 01:25:25,140
"My God, this is huge." You know?
1477
01:25:31,560 --> 01:25:33,760
The main memory
I have of that thing
1478
01:25:33,760 --> 01:25:37,100
is obviously my strap coming off.
1479
01:25:37,100 --> 01:25:38,760
Whoa!
1480
01:25:38,760 --> 01:25:41,720
His strap broke, so I jumped in.
1481
01:25:41,720 --> 01:25:44,510
You've got to cover his back -
he was our guest!
1482
01:25:44,510 --> 01:25:47,350
ROBBIE TAKES OVER GUITAR SOLO
1483
01:25:54,350 --> 01:25:56,640
And then he's like,
1484
01:25:56,640 --> 01:26:00,930
"Wait a minute, pal, let's not
get too fancy over there."
1485
01:26:17,140 --> 01:26:19,760
# Further on up the road... #
1486
01:26:19,760 --> 01:26:22,930
What I remember about it is
it was just...
1487
01:26:22,930 --> 01:26:24,720
..so free it was untrue.
1488
01:26:24,720 --> 01:26:27,890
And I mean nobody knew
what was going to happen next.
1489
01:26:27,890 --> 01:26:30,060
And I loved it.
And I loved it. I loved it.
1490
01:26:30,060 --> 01:26:31,390
I didn't want it to ever end.
1491
01:26:34,010 --> 01:26:38,760
# I see my light come shining... #
1492
01:26:38,760 --> 01:26:42,180
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
1493
01:26:42,180 --> 01:26:46,850
# From the west down to the east
1494
01:26:50,100 --> 01:26:58,060
# Any day now
1495
01:26:58,060 --> 01:27:02,600
# I shall be released... #
1496
01:27:04,140 --> 01:27:09,930
The Last Waltz was such
a beautiful thank you
1497
01:27:09,930 --> 01:27:13,560
to this wonderful journey
that we'd been on,
1498
01:27:13,560 --> 01:27:17,720
and the amazing experiences we had.
1499
01:27:17,720 --> 01:27:21,310
The whole thing was so moving.
1500
01:27:21,310 --> 01:27:24,220
# Any day now
1501
01:27:25,350 --> 01:27:28,930
# Any day now
1502
01:27:28,930 --> 01:27:33,640
# I shall be released. #
1503
01:27:39,720 --> 01:27:42,890
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
1504
01:27:47,220 --> 01:27:48,680
Thank you very much.
1505
01:27:51,640 --> 01:27:54,970
Thank you. Thank you very much.
1506
01:28:17,760 --> 01:28:20,140
# When that curtain comes down
1507
01:28:22,220 --> 01:28:24,810
# We let go of the past
1508
01:28:26,640 --> 01:28:30,720
# Tomorrow's another day
1509
01:28:30,720 --> 01:28:34,310
# Some things weren't
meant to last... #
1510
01:28:34,310 --> 01:28:37,510
We need a little bit more
of the harp... Mm-hm.
1511
01:28:37,510 --> 01:28:41,100
..in the intro and
in the first turnaround.
1512
01:28:41,100 --> 01:28:44,310
Like, you want a little bit more,
like, grit on it, or...
1513
01:28:44,310 --> 01:28:46,640
Yeah, just a little more atmosphere.
1514
01:28:46,640 --> 01:28:47,850
Right. Not so dry.
1515
01:28:47,850 --> 01:28:49,470
Yeah, got it.
1516
01:28:51,680 --> 01:28:54,760
# Some things weren't
meant to last... #
1517
01:28:56,350 --> 01:29:02,970
We did The Last Waltz with the idea
that we would put that away,
1518
01:29:02,970 --> 01:29:05,890
take care of one another a bit,
1519
01:29:05,890 --> 01:29:09,640
and really come back
together again
1520
01:29:09,640 --> 01:29:13,140
and make music like
we had never made before.
1521
01:29:13,140 --> 01:29:14,510
That was our dream.
1522
01:29:14,510 --> 01:29:16,010
That was the idea.
1523
01:29:17,720 --> 01:29:20,680
Everybody just forgot
to come back.
1524
01:29:22,560 --> 01:29:24,640
# There'll be no revival
1525
01:29:26,680 --> 01:29:29,100
# There'll be no encore
1526
01:29:31,220 --> 01:29:34,010
# Once were brothers
1527
01:29:35,350 --> 01:29:37,890
# Brothers no more... #
1528
01:29:41,850 --> 01:29:45,060
I was the first one who was
heartbroken, in a way,
1529
01:29:45,060 --> 01:29:47,510
because I loved
The Band so much,
1530
01:29:47,510 --> 01:29:49,100
you know, and it felt like,
1531
01:29:49,100 --> 01:29:51,640
"It's closing this book,
this chapter."
1532
01:29:53,010 --> 01:29:55,180
If somebody had said,
1533
01:29:55,180 --> 01:29:57,430
"I've got a couple of tunes started,
1534
01:29:57,430 --> 01:30:04,010
"we're dying to go in and
create some music,"
1535
01:30:04,010 --> 01:30:06,510
I would've said, "Yes,"
in a minute.
1536
01:30:06,510 --> 01:30:10,010
By that time, I don't think you
could've kept The Band together.
1537
01:30:10,010 --> 01:30:12,760
Everybody had something
they wanted to do,
1538
01:30:12,760 --> 01:30:17,100
and after The Last Waltz we started
chasing those dreams.
1539
01:30:20,560 --> 01:30:25,310
Some years later,
Levon was having a tough time.
1540
01:30:27,510 --> 01:30:31,680
And out of that,
his anger was aimed at me.
1541
01:30:35,180 --> 01:30:40,140
In the end, Levon contended
that somehow he should've gotten
1542
01:30:40,140 --> 01:30:43,060
a lot of the songwriting revenue.
1543
01:30:43,060 --> 01:30:45,470
And he just got more and more
pissed off.
1544
01:30:47,350 --> 01:30:50,760
I can see why Levon might say
something like that,
1545
01:30:50,760 --> 01:30:53,390
because he was really good
at helping arrange.
1546
01:30:53,390 --> 01:30:54,850
But Robbie wrote all the songs.
1547
01:30:54,850 --> 01:30:57,640
Robbie was writing songs
when he was 15 years old.
1548
01:30:57,640 --> 01:31:00,350
And the rest of the boys
helped arrange the songs,
1549
01:31:00,350 --> 01:31:02,720
which is a little bit different.
1550
01:31:02,720 --> 01:31:06,100
Levon's point was that
these were five guys
1551
01:31:06,100 --> 01:31:12,180
that all played a role in making
The Band what it was.
1552
01:31:12,180 --> 01:31:17,010
I mean, the combination of those
five guys was so unique,
1553
01:31:17,010 --> 01:31:21,060
and so he felt as though Robbie
were claiming all the credit
1554
01:31:21,060 --> 01:31:22,680
for himself.
1555
01:31:22,680 --> 01:31:26,100
You could kind of see in Levon,
through this bitterness,
1556
01:31:26,100 --> 01:31:29,600
that because of his interpretation
of what happened,
1557
01:31:29,600 --> 01:31:31,720
he was really hurt, you know?
1558
01:31:31,720 --> 01:31:33,760
He just let it chew him up.
1559
01:31:33,760 --> 01:31:44,970
# And the sun don't shine
anymore... #
1560
01:31:46,640 --> 01:31:48,430
When Levon ran out of money,
1561
01:31:48,430 --> 01:31:50,350
that's when he went crazy,
1562
01:31:50,350 --> 01:31:52,260
because he had been
living high.
1563
01:31:52,260 --> 01:31:55,350
But Levon, he's kind of like me -
he gets mad and says things
1564
01:31:55,350 --> 01:31:58,560
he shouldn't say, and goes crazy.
1565
01:31:58,560 --> 01:32:01,060
Levon and Robbie
were best friends,
1566
01:32:01,060 --> 01:32:04,970
were brothers, I mean, and
Levon showed him the ropes.
1567
01:32:04,970 --> 01:32:09,310
So it was very sad
that that's how he felt,
1568
01:32:09,310 --> 01:32:11,930
and that, you know,
that's what he believed.
1569
01:32:13,760 --> 01:32:20,810
Years later, I got a message
that Levon was in the hospital
1570
01:32:20,810 --> 01:32:22,180
and he was dying.
1571
01:32:24,180 --> 01:32:27,310
I got on a plane
and I went to the hospital.
1572
01:32:28,640 --> 01:32:30,890
Levon wasn't conscious any more.
1573
01:32:32,100 --> 01:32:36,640
His daughter was there
and she took me into the room,
1574
01:32:36,640 --> 01:32:40,180
and I sat with him
and I held his hand
1575
01:32:40,180 --> 01:32:44,310
and I thought about
the amazing times
1576
01:32:44,310 --> 01:32:46,760
that we had had together.
1577
01:32:49,060 --> 01:32:53,720
We'd been on the front lines
of two or three musical revolutions.
1578
01:32:55,470 --> 01:32:58,890
And now we're just left
with these memories.
1579
01:33:00,720 --> 01:33:02,850
So I sat with my brother,
1580
01:33:02,850 --> 01:33:05,510
and held his hand.
1581
01:33:05,510 --> 01:33:07,100
You know, I said,
1582
01:33:07,100 --> 01:33:10,470
"Levon, I'll meet you
on the other end."
1583
01:33:10,470 --> 01:33:13,970
MUSIC: The Night They Drove
Old Dixie Down by The Band
1584
01:33:17,260 --> 01:33:22,930
# Virgil Caine is the name
and I served on the Danville train
1585
01:33:24,430 --> 01:33:30,760
# Till Stoneman's cavalry came
and they tore up the tracks again
1586
01:33:32,060 --> 01:33:36,890
# In the winter of '65,
we were hungry
1587
01:33:36,890 --> 01:33:39,850
# Just barely alive
1588
01:33:39,850 --> 01:33:43,310
# By May the 10th,
Richmond had fell
1589
01:33:43,310 --> 01:33:50,260
# It's a time I remember
oh, so well
1590
01:33:50,260 --> 01:33:56,260
# The night they drove
Old Dixie down
1591
01:33:56,260 --> 01:33:59,100
# When all the bells
were ringing
1592
01:33:59,100 --> 01:34:04,430
# The night they drove
Old Dixie down
1593
01:34:04,430 --> 01:34:07,430
# And all the people
were singing, they went
1594
01:34:07,430 --> 01:34:11,140
# "Na, na-na, na-na,
na, na, na
1595
01:34:11,140 --> 01:34:14,930
# "Na-na, na-na,
na-na, na, na, na"
1596
01:34:19,010 --> 01:34:23,260
# Back with my wife in Tennessee
1597
01:34:23,260 --> 01:34:26,060
# When one day she called to me
1598
01:34:28,350 --> 01:34:31,140
# Said "Virgil, quick,
come and see
1599
01:34:31,140 --> 01:34:33,890
# "There goes Robert E Lee"
1600
01:34:34,970 --> 01:34:38,600
# Now I don't mind chopping wood
1601
01:34:38,600 --> 01:34:42,810
# And I don't care
if the money's no good
1602
01:34:42,810 --> 01:34:46,350
# You take what you need
and you leave the rest
1603
01:34:46,350 --> 01:34:54,260
# But they should never
have taken the very best
1604
01:34:54,260 --> 01:34:59,680
The night they drove
Old Dixie down
1605
01:34:59,680 --> 01:35:02,720
# When all the bells were ringing
1606
01:35:02,720 --> 01:35:07,680
# The night they drove
Old Dixie down
1607
01:35:07,680 --> 01:35:10,720
# And all the people were singing
1608
01:35:10,720 --> 01:35:14,890
# They went, "Na, na-na, na-na,
na, na, na
1609
01:35:14,890 --> 01:35:18,680
# "Na-na, na-na,
na-na, na-na, na"
1610
01:35:26,850 --> 01:35:29,260
# Like my father before me
1611
01:35:30,260 --> 01:35:33,220
# I will work the land
1612
01:35:34,890 --> 01:35:38,390
# And like my brother above me
1613
01:35:38,390 --> 01:35:41,890
# Who took a rebel stand
1614
01:35:41,890 --> 01:35:45,640
# He was just 18, proud and brave
1615
01:35:45,640 --> 01:35:49,810
# But a Yankee laid him in his grave
1616
01:35:49,810 --> 01:35:53,470
# And I swear by the mud
below my feet
1617
01:35:53,470 --> 01:36:01,310
# You can't raise a Caine back up
when he's in defeat
1618
01:36:01,310 --> 01:36:07,220
# The night they drove
Old Dixie down
1619
01:36:07,220 --> 01:36:10,060
# When all the bells were ringing
1620
01:36:10,060 --> 01:36:15,350
# The night they drove
Old Dixie down
1621
01:36:15,350 --> 01:36:18,390
# And all the people
were singing, they went
1622
01:36:18,390 --> 01:36:22,310
# "Na, na-na, na-na,
na, na, na
1623
01:36:22,310 --> 01:36:26,100
"Na-na, na-na,
na-na, na, na, na"
1624
01:36:34,390 --> 01:36:39,930
# The night they drove
Old Dixie down now
1625
01:36:39,930 --> 01:36:42,310
# The bells were ringing
1626
01:36:42,310 --> 01:36:47,760
# The night they drove
Old Dixie down
1627
01:36:47,760 --> 01:36:50,060
# And all the people were singing
1628
01:36:50,060 --> 01:36:54,260
# They went, "Na, na-na, na-na
na, na, na
1629
01:36:54,260 --> 01:36:58,600
# "Na-na, na-na,
Na-na, na, na, na"... #
1630
01:37:07,560 --> 01:37:10,600
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
1631
01:37:16,220 --> 01:37:18,010
Thank you very much.
1632
01:37:18,010 --> 01:37:21,180
MUSIC: Ophelia
by The Band
1633
01:37:29,890 --> 01:37:34,890
# Boards on the window,
mail by the door
1634
01:37:34,890 --> 01:37:39,180
# What would anybody leave
so quickly for?
1635
01:37:39,180 --> 01:37:41,260
# Ophelia
1636
01:37:43,680 --> 01:37:45,930
# Where have you gone?
1637
01:37:50,760 --> 01:37:56,140
# The old neighbourhood
just ain't the same
1638
01:37:56,140 --> 01:38:02,220
# Nobody knows just what
became of Ophelia
1639
01:38:03,850 --> 01:38:04,140
# Hmm, tell me what went wrong
1640
01:38:04,140 --> 01:38:06,810
# Tell me what went wrong... #
1641
01:38:12,010 --> 01:38:16,560
# Was it something that
somebody said?
1642
01:38:16,560 --> 01:38:21,930
# Mama, I know we broke the rules
1643
01:38:21,930 --> 01:38:26,680
# Was somebody up against the law
1644
01:38:27,720 --> 01:38:32,890
# Honey you know I'd die for you
1645
01:38:32,890 --> 01:38:34,760
# Ashes of laughter
1646
01:38:34,760 --> 01:38:37,560
# The ghost is clear
1647
01:38:37,560 --> 01:38:41,890
# Why do the best things
always disappear?
1648
01:38:41,890 --> 01:38:44,350
# Like Ophelia
1649
01:38:46,060 --> 01:38:49,100
# Please darken my door... #
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