All language subtitles for The Fall of Diddy s01e04 The Fall.eng

[Cheyenne] In 2022, the BET Awards
gave Combs his Lifetime Achievement Award.

It seems almost overdue
at this point

when you think of this empire
he has created.

As Combs
is standing on this stage accepting this award,

he would say something
that would change the trajectory of his life.

He goes to this quiet moment
and he gets really kind of somber,

and he's like, you know,
"I had gone through these dark patches,

these rough patches,
low points."

Y'all. I'm gonna keep it 100
with y'all.

I was in a dark place
for a few years. You know what I'm saying?

And he specifically shouts
out Cassie.

He said it to Cassie,
"Thanks for holding me down at dark times."

Also, Cassie, for holding
me down in the dark times. Love.

[crowd cheering]

And when he did that,
my first thing was, "What?"

[Cheyenne]
It was this weird moment

because Cassie and him
had been broken up since 2018.

She had two children,

and so it was
just kind of this weird

pull back
to their relationship

when she was publicly
moved on.

[Tisa] I remember there was
this whole thing in social media.

And people were like,
"Oh, my God,

he's still in love
with Cassie."

We had no idea that Cassie
had spent a decade trying to escape

the alleged horrendous abuse
she had suffered under him.

That was Diddy saying,
"I don't care about

what you've got
going on right now. You're still mine.

I'm still going to mark
this territory."

[Cheyenne] That moment when he
called her out on stage,

that was like a form of abuse.

And we know now that that triggered
her and spurned her into action.

[Mylah] I first met Cassie
on a photo shoot,

and when I saw Cass, I was like, "Wow, that's.
.. that girl is a superstar."

When Cassie first met Diddy,
she was 19 years old and he was 37 years old.

I want everybody
to meet Cassie.

-Y'all know Cassie.
-[Cassie chuckles]

[Cheyenne] Cassie would go on
to be signed at Bad Boy.

She had like a top-10 hit
called "Me and You."

?? You've been waiting
so long ?

[interviewer] You have signed
with Diddy's label.

What was it like
the first time you met him? Were you starstruck?

I was so nervous, so nervous.

But we sat down
for about two hours, talked about my career

and the future,
and it was great.

[Danyel] Cassie's first album
was called "Cassie."

It was a well-reviewed,
solid 7.58 out of 10.

So I think we were all waiting
on like, "Well, shoot girl,

let's get it popping.
What's next? Where's the new album?

What are we doing?"

Never to be seen.

[Roger] When Cassie became
part of Bad Boy,

my impression
was there for Puff.

She was there strictly
being an artist.

But then,
you begin to understand

and realize that he always had
intentions of making Cassie,

I wouldn't say his girlfriend
at that particular time,

but having a relationship
with Cassie.

[Cheyenne] To get her away
from her boyfriend at the time, Ryan Leslie,

Cassie claims that Diddy created this
whole guise to get her down to Miami.

Puff said, "Bonds, we gotta
go back to Miami."

He said,
"I got Cassie coming."

He looked at me
and I looked at him

and he said,
"Yeah, I'm gonna get her. I'm gonna get her now."

[Cheyenne] He invents
this event that she had to appear at with flyers,

the whole works,
to get her to Miami alone

under the pretense
that she had to work.

[Roger] So instead of them
just working in the studio,

he started taking Cassie
to the clubs with him.

He started bringing her out
in the hopes of winning her over.

In the beginning it was kind of like,
you know, me and the rest of the staff

were just kind of like,
"Are they messing around?

Like they must be
messing around."

But we didn't see anything
romantic per se, right,

until the Miami trip.

And the only reason
why this all had kind of stuck out in my mind

is because
I just remembered him

cussing out
one of the assistants

for not having condoms
on the yacht.

[Roger] I remember lots of parties
in Miami and I remember lots of drugs.

At that particular time
I've seen a lot of ecstasy.

[Jourdan] They're partying, you know.
I'm not thinking that this is like a bad thing

back then, you know?

And I was in my 20s,
so I'm like, you know, like, "Oh, she came up."

She looked like
she was having fun.

I didn't see anything wrong
with what was happening back then.

You know,
now that I'm in my 40s,

I can see, you know, how it was
a man in power that was taking advantage.

I began to see
photos of them together,

and I was like, "Wow,
okay, here we are."

[Cheyenne] Their relationship
became public.

And as time went on,
they became a status symbol a power couple.

Cassie was the loyal,
devoted girlfriend.

Diddy showboated her
at the Met Gala, at different things.

He posted her all the time.

Cassie was the first lady
to his president.

Cassie says that Diddy quickly became
ingrained in every aspect of her life.

Her car rental
was under his name.

Her apartments
were owned by him or rented by him.

She said that he had
her medical records sent directly to his email.

Any show that came up,

any producers
that wanted to work with her,

any managers that wanted
to work with her,

you had to go through him
in order to do that.

[B. Scott] I mean, I thought
Cassie would be someone

that we would
hear from more consistently,

and I always wondered why,
after the first album

we didn't really
get anything else.

With Cassie, the way
that he controlled her

was by never giving her that career
that she wanted because she would hold on

and keep reaching and keep trying
to to have that career that she wanted.

Looking back,
I have a lot of regrets on not speaking up.

It was really difficult.

It was like it graduated
from one thing to another to another.

When I knew
that it was really a problem

was one time when I'd just
seen him beat Cassie up.

We went to a big party
on Sunset.

And when I was waiting
outside, I seen Cassie come out first.

And then I seen Puff come out
and he was walking fast.

And then all of a sudden,
I just seen him out of nowhere

just punch her.

And then they
started fighting there.

I tried there at first
and said, "Yo, get inside the car.

Are you crazy? Are you crazy?"

And then he said,
"No, no, no."

And he started kicking her.

And then she fell.
She tripped over something trying to get away.

And then that's when
I jumped in because it looked like

he was about
to kick her again.

I grabbed her
and I threw her in the car

and then I threw him
inside the car.

Puff turned around
and they started fighting inside the car.

She was fighting
from the back.

He was fighting
from the front.

And so I'm busy
trying to drive, roll the window up

and stop them
at the same time.

We got to the house
and then she jumped out.

And then they went inside
the room.

The next thing I knew,
he came out and he said,

"Yo, get this bitch
out of my house."

And then he told me, he said,
"Yo, take over to the London Hotel."

She was crying.

Her hair was... was crazy.

You could tell that she had
been beat up

because of some of the
swellness on her face.

[Jourdan] The day
that I found out that he was abusing her...

I went up
to the bodyguard's room

and I'm like, "Yo, like,
what's up? Like what's going on?"

And he's like, "Yo, Chef,
like that [bleep] went crazy on Cas again.

I thought he was gonna
kill her.

And I was like, "What?
Like, what are you talking about?"

And he's like,
"Yo, he... he was beating the shit out of her."

I don't even know
how much time went by,

but Puff came screaming
up the steps and was like,

"Yo, Chef, like, what the [bleep]
are you doing in my [bleep] business?

What happens in my
[bleep] house is my business.

What happens in my [bleep]
relationship is my business.

I don't know what the [bleep]
is your problem.

Like, I'll [bleep] end you.
Like, I'll [bleep] end you.

Like, you better not
tell nobody shit."

He never once said
it never happened. I didn't do that.

He wasn't remorseful
in any way.

Like, he was like
just in a rage.

I was really disgusted.

But I'm also being quiet
because I know that he probably really

would beat me up,
like, I knew he was that mad.

And so then he starts calling
for the bodyguard to come downstairs,

and he's like, "Why the [bleep]
you telling my [bleep] business [bleep]?

Like what the [bleep]
is wrong with you?"

[Roger] If you know Cassie,
then you know that when something first happens

she doesn't want to talk
to you about it.

You know,
whether she's embarrassed whether she's ashamed.

But when I did come
the next day to deliver her some stuff,

she opened up the door

and she looked at me
and she was like, "Bonds, I can't do it no more."

Whenever I talked to Cassie,
I felt like it was

a father-daughter
type of thing.

I said, "You all right?"
And then she... she unbuttoned her shirt.

And she showed me the wounds,
and she was like, "No, I'm not all right."

"I said, "Do you wanna
come back?"

And she was like, "No,
I'm not coming back."

It probably was a week later
I was told to go pick her up,

and I told Diddy, I said,
"Oh, she's coming back."

He said, "Yeah,
just go pick her up."

But the way that he said
"She's coming back,"

once you know Diddy,
you know to leave it at that.

Like, not why
she's coming back or not ask no other questions.

Just do as you're told.
Just go get her.

You could tell that she
didn't want to come back.

You know, my father
beat my mother,

so it was like,
I didn't, you know,

so I was just like,
I kind of felt like...

...you know, in relationships,
if people choose to stay

what am I to do?

I can't... If you're not
willing to go,

I can't save you from that,
you know.

So I didn't really...
I was very separate.

I feel horrible now, you know,
looking back on it.

There's a lot of people
that were complicit with keeping things quiet.

People knew. People knew.

And people kept quiet.

Who would have thought
that Cassie was going to be the one.

[reporter] Music mogul
Sean Diddy Combs facing a slew of allegations

including rape
and sex trafficking,

in a stunning
new civil lawsuit

filed by his longtime partner,
singer Cassie.

[Cheyenne] New York created
a look-back window

for survivors
of sexual assault.

No matter when the incident
or assault occurred

they could bring a civil suit
against their abuser.

That opened up the doors
for Cassie.

Cassie had tried
to leave her relationship with Diddy

because, allegedly
he was also subjecting her

to extreme physical
and sexual abuse.

[Tisa] Diddy and Cassie's
relationship was a lot of people's goals.

So when I heard about
the Cassie lawsuit, I was maybe six pages in,

and I literally stopped
what I was doing and got prepared to go live.

Listen, let's get right
into this Puffy.

Listen, y'all see me,
you see the hair.

I woke up for this y'all.

I think it's fair to say if these
accusations are true, Puffy is a monster.

I was like, "This is a cultural
moment," and not in a salacious way,

but I really felt like
everything you knew or thought,

everything you assumed
was completely not just wrong,

but it was dark,
disturbing, disgusting.

Cassie claims that Diddy
would have these sexual encounters

arranged for her
with other men that he called "freak offs."

Diddy was accused of conducting
freak offs where Cassie on his behalf

would secure escorts
or other sex workers to come

and engage in sexual acts
with her.

[Cheyenne] She claims
that Diddy would film these encounters.

That he would masturbate

while Cassie was forced
to participate or engage in these activities,

and sometimes
that he would join in.

I've seen questionable things.

But I never knew exactly
what was going on.

There's been times
where Cassie and Diddy

would just go to the hotel
for a weekend.

And I would see guys
get off the elevator.

And I would peek
and I would see a knock on Puff's door.

Puff's assistant always kept
these little mini recorders with him in his bag.

And I remember specifically,
him losing the tape one time.

And Puff was going crazy.

I mean, everybody was
looking for this tape,

I said,
"Yo, what is on this tape?"

But I never knew that he was
allegedly taping freak offs.

I thought it was between him
and Cassie.

When I read the lawsuit,
I teared up.

[Dee] The sexual assault,
the trafficking, the abuse...

...the drugging, you know,

and this is supposed to be
a significant other.

Cassie opened the floodgates
for so many people to come forward.

Sean Diddy Combs has been hit
with another lawsuit.

[reporter 1] Music mogul Sean Combs
facing a fourth accusation of sexual assault.

[reporter 2] Lawsuit
in the last month was filed against him today.

I think that people
are coming out now

because there is strength
in numbers.

It's so hard for women
to come forward and speak their truth

about being
sexually assaulted.

They see how they're shunned.

They see how they're shamed.

They see how they're silenced.

And then
this video clip drops.

It is footage of Diddy
from 2016 in a hotel with Cassie,

and it is some
of the hardest footage

I think I've ever
had to watch.

Hmm.

Really, really, really
bothers me about that video...

...is that she was barefoot.

That's what really bothers me
about that video.

Think of how panicked
you have to be...

...to leave a place
without putting your shoes on.

[B. Scott] Cassie behaved
as a person who had been beat many times before,

who had been abused
many times before.

She realized there was
nothing she could do.

She just got
in the fetal position

and she just kind of waited
for it to be over.

My God, like,
who was I working for?

He's not even just a monster.

He's like a... I can't even
describe what he is.

I was looking at it, going,
"No, just no, just no, just no."

[Tisa] When you saw when
he dragged her back.

The sheer brutality,

and then two days later,

to know that Cassie
had a movie premiere

and they were laughing
and giving smiles.

It really just made you
be scared

for any woman
that was in Diddy's orbit.

It's so difficult to reflect
on the darkest times in your life.

But sometimes you've
gotta do that.

I was [bleep] up.

I mean, I hit rock bottom.

But I make no excuses.

My behavior on that video
is inexcusable.

The apology actually
sent me into a rage.

I take full responsibility
for my actions in that video.

For him to have said
that he was at rock bottom

and it was the worst point
in his life.

He was a [bleep] liar.

It's another performance.

And it's a full-on lie,
like, come on, bro, like you're...

You sound... Like, just
shut the [bleep] up. Don't talk anymore.

[Kat] When I watch that video,
I knew he was lying

because I knew what I experienced
in 2021, which was five years later.

I wasn't sure if I wanted
to speak my story and make it public.

Over the last probably
11 months,

I've decided
to speak my truth and take my power back.

My name is Kat Pasion.
I am an actress.

I moved to Los Angeles
in 2013.

And that summer
I was at Soho House with a couple of friends,

and I remember telling them

like Puff Daddy
is like walking over like...

But he was just... He locked eyes
with me and just came, stormed over.

And then he came and sat
and talked to me and my friends

and was really trying
to get to know me,

but I wasn't really...

I wasn't interested.

He tried to give me
his number. I didn't take it.

Maybe because he's like
20 years older than me.

That was the first time
I met him.

He started following me
on Instagram, 2016, 2017.

He would message me
all of 2018,

and towards
the end of the year

he started inviting me
to some events.

He had invited me
to his birthday party,

and I think
that was his 49th birthday.

?? Make room. Let it work ?

?? Let it work. Let it work ?

[Kat] It was
a beautiful party. Classy.

Great night, DJ,
everybody danced all night.

It was a really fun night.

And then, I think
ten days after his birthday,

Kim had passed.

[reporter] Model and longtime
girlfriend of entertainer Sean Diddy Combs,

Kim Porter was found dead
in her Los Angeles home last Thursday.

Authorities say
she went into cardiac arrest

while fighting
flu-like symptoms.

She was 47 years old.

I had a best friend
that passed away on December 8th,

and it was a coincidence

because on that day
he hit me up

asking to meet for a drink
at the Bel-Air Hotel,

I felt sympathetic and empathetic
towards him because he had lost Kim.

Something drew me
into wanting to have the drink with him.

I felt like I saw...

...somewhat of a a grieving,
vulnerable person.

He just... he felt real,
and I connected with him.

But we were connecting
through the pain.

I had heard a lot of things
about him, not good things,

and one of the first few times
we hung out...

...he asked me, "What are
the streets saying about me?"

And I said, [chuckles]...

..."You really want to know?

I hear that you're abusive.
You're violent.

You're connected
to a lot of...

...dark things."

And he just looked at me

and was like, "That's what they're
saying," and totally played it off.

Totally played it.

He was trying to...
he was trying to reel me in

and get me comfortable
and show me that he's a good guy.

We spent so much time together
and we were really close and inseparable.

Well, I have my old phone
from that era.

It was very positive
in the beginning.

Very sweet.

I think this was the time
I was transitioning

from being a brunette
to a blonde.

He was very supportive
of the new curation of the look.

This is a voice note.

[Diddy] I ain't gonna lie
to you my [bleep].

You really got
your look popping.

You made your vision
come true.

I'm happy for you.
I'm proud of you.

Love, I hope you had
a beautiful day.

[Kat] I'd seen his career
at one point to be a blueprint.

And so when we became friends,
I made sure to let him know

that I want to be part
of your meetings.

I want to see how it goes down
when you're doing your Ciroc meetings,

when you're doing
your music meetings.

I just wanted to be a fly on the
wall to, like, absorb and be a student.

And it was like,
I see this girl, you know,

she has potential
and she's dope.

And obviously we had
this friendship and this budding relationship.

[sighs]

It just felt like
it was meant to happen.

It was the honeymoon
phase, though.

Now that I look back on it,
it's strikingly similar

to how Cassie and Puff's
relationship started.

So he at first was...

He would say certain things like, "I'm
trying to do things differently this time."

Which, at the time...

...I didn't understand
what he meant,

What was different from now
than before?

And then it started
to filter out.

As I started to see
this other side of him, as the months progressed,

a different side
that I didn't like.

One time earlier on
he had said something

and I had said something
back to him

because I've got
a quick mouth too,

and he turned around

and he put his hand up
on my neck.

But he wasn't like
touching my neck yet.

It was just kind of hovering.

And we were looking
at each other in the eye,

and I was like,
"Don't you [bleep] dare. Like, you wouldn't.

'Cause I'll call the police,
I'll do whatever."

And then he just
started laughing

and he kind of played it off
like it was a joke and he was just kidding

and we were back
to having fun and...

Yeah, it's those
moments where...

...he... he has this...

He's got this, like,
side to him. It's slippery.

[Diddy] Yeah, but you...
I told you to go home.

You had the after party
so stay...

You could have gone to another
[bleep], more like, you won't call me back.

Talking away
and acting funny like that.

I got no time for that shit.

He sounds drunk.

[chuckles]
It just makes me think...

...controlling and...

...just an ass.

I remember one time,

it was the beginning of 2019,

and we were in the Bahamas,

on a yacht, and the R. Kelly
documentary had come out.

He came into the room
to watch a little bit.

He's walking out of the room
and he says,

"There's a little bit of R. Kelly
in all of us" and then walks out the door.

And I remember being like...

..."What?" [chuckles]

There is not a little bit
of R. Kelly in all of us,

but I wasn't absorbing

really the severity
of that statement until later.

It was my birthday,
April 2019, and we went to New York

and at this point,
he was just being more disrespectful.

And I was calling him out
on that.

And I remember being
in the restroom

and I said, "I'm done."

And he looked at me
and he said,

"There's something called
AD and BC.

After Death, Before Christ,"
referring to himself.

"And you don't want to know
what it's like AD."

He was insinuating,

you don't want to end up
like my ex, Cassie,

"AD."

That was his way
of kind of like threatening me in a way

like, "You're better off
with me.

Like, what are...
You're gonna end up like her."

Our relationship wasn't
what it was before.

I went back to Canada.
Then COVID hit.

So I ended up being in Canada
for like a year and a half and I didn't see him.

But in 2021,

he was starting
to record his Love Album,

kind of collecting
all the collaborators,

and he valued my opinion.

And so he wanted me around.

At that point, it was more
of like a friendship.

We went from the house
in Bel-Air to the Malibu home, and it was great.

We were in the studio
all night, vibing.

We had a day pool party.

Just right.
The vibration right here.

I don't know what
everybody's talking about what everybody's doing,

but I'm saying
it's so perfect.

[Kat] He had some
friends over. It was a good energy.

It wasn't till the last night
when he went dark.

He was on a drug that he had
never done around me,

which was this pink substance
that he was snorting.

I think it's called "Tusi."

He's in the bathroom for hours
and I'm sleeping

and he comes out
of the bathroom and wakes me up.

He's telling me
I can't go to sleep.

He's expecting X, Y and Z
from me.

And...

he...

...forces himself.

Like, I don't want to go
too much into it

because I'm not trying
to relive that memory, but...

It was just scary,
to be honest.

Yeah, 'cause his whole...
his whole tone, everything changed.

I just don't want to go into
like... [sniffles]

...detail of it.

It wasn't consensual.

And...

...he...

[scoffs] He...

I don't know, just the person
who came out of that bathroom and woke me up...

...was someone that was...
I didn't even recognize him.

And I knew I was never
going to see him again.

And I never
wanted to remember or repeat what happened.

And I just, like, was numb
and I suppressed it.

You feel so small
and insignificant because this person has...

...so much power and resources
and all these people like...

It's just very intimidating,

but also at the same time,
it's like...

...I feel like
I should have known better.

Like, why was I
in that situation?

Like, that's the shame,
though, because I'm... I'm smart. [sniffles]

But...

Yeah, it's been...

...a lot that I've had
to deal with.

Two weeks later,
his assistant called me

and she said, "Mr. Combs
is on the phone.

He would like to talk to you."

So he gets on the phone
and he starts to threaten me and my livelihood.

"I can call the embassy
and get you deported back to Canada.

Like, you don't know
who you're [bleep] with.

You don't know
what I can do to you."

And he's yelling at me.

He is full throttle
pissed off.

I can't even get in a word.

I think towards the end of the conversation,
which was under a few minutes,

I said, "You're a demon."

And he hung up.

This man is sick.

He uses his resources
and uses what he can do for you

and thinks that
that can band aid and solve...

...the... the horrible things
he does to people.

Because he thinks he's God.

He thinks,
"How would she not want to come out to Italy

and be in a yacht
on the Amalfi Coast with me?"

Like he's so far gone.

So I mean, karma's a bitch.

And where is he sitting today?

Not on a yacht
on the Amalfi Coast. I'll tell you that.

[reporter] Sean Diddy Combs
behind bars

facing a slew of allegations.

[Cheyenne] That he has gotten away
with so many things decade after decade.

And so today is the day
that a lot of my sources

kind of hoped but feared
would never happen.

Today I'm announcing
the unsealing of a three-count indictment.

Charging Sean Combs
with racketeering conspiracy, sex trafficking,

interstate transportation
for prostitution.

[Mara] What the indictment
essentially says is that Combs Enterprises

was a criminal organization
being run by Diddy.

It means using your employees,
for example, to facilitate crimes,

to get you drugs,
to get you sex workers, to bribe people,

to threaten people,
to get you guns.

[Cheyenne]
When this indictment is unveiled,

it is starkingly similar
to the same accusations

Cassie had laid out
in her lawsuit.

There is a mention
of freak offs.

There is a mention
of physical violence.

Her lawsuit served
as a roadmap for this indictment.

The level of detail
was intense.

[Cheynne] They seized
a thousand bottles of baby oil,

and it became a little bit
of a meme or a joke on social media.

But prosecutors were trying
to demonstrate

that these freak offs
were very organized events.

He and others
pressured witnesses and victims to stay silent,

including by
making phone calls to witnesses and victims.

He didn't do these things.

This was
a 10-year relationship.

There's no coercion.
There's no crime.

Eventually, he's going to be
shown to be innocent.

And we'll fight every day
until we don't have to fight anymore.

A judge ordered Sean Diddy
Combs held without bail.

Diddy was denied bail

because the government said,
"This man is a danger to the community."

They said, "He's already demonstrated
that he's willing to tamper with witnesses,

harassing them
and calling them dozens and dozens of times,

or bribing them
or threatening them.

So we can't let him
out on bail

because it's going
to interfere

with the integrity
of the case."

[Cheyenne] I think this
is the first time that we've seen

someone of this prominence
in the music community

have such a high
fall from grace.

That he is at the peak
of his career.

That he is a businessman.

He is a father.

Um, he is a pillar
of the community, music industry

and also the black community,

and to see him picked up
and kind of right away.

it's really kind of a
an unprecedented moment.

[Mara] The Southern District of New
York is known as one of the most aggressive

prosecutorial offices
in the country.

They want the elephant.

I think it's very possible
that Diddy has seen his last day as a free man.

[Gordon] When something
notorious or salacious happens to a career

there can be this mood that you
can't celebrate the good days of it, too.

That can happen.

There was a lot of good days.

There's a lot
of brilliant people that made it all happen.

[Mark] He made hip hop...

...seem so vital
and lively to American culture

that everyone wanted to be
a piece of it.

[Lajoyce] I used to beam
with pride...

...because I know I was there in those
formulative years to help lay the foundation.

[Roger] To me,
it's all about power.

The industry in a whole can't keep
turning a blind eye to these situations.

[Rodney] There's a lot
of people like Puffy in this music business.

Exposing Puffy means
exposing them.

[Jourdan] We are taught
no snitching.

We're taught to suppress
violence and abuse.

And so that gives abusers
space to thrive.

And I'm not afraid anymore.

Scream it from
the mountaintops.

These people do not have
the power that you think that they do.

I was questioning my faith,

apologizing for things
that I dreamed about.

Like, "Why did I put this
on myself?"

And I haven't been able
to express that

without the world
victim blaming and shaming me

and telling me I just need
to be grateful because he gave me an opportunity.

[Natania] I have nine bullet fragments
that remain in my face and my head.

He took my peace of mind.

He took my sense of safety.

[Thalia] Being able
to speak about it...

...is like liberation
to a certain extent.

But if I could just
block everything out, even till today,

I would want that.
That would be best for me.

So I don't have
the trauma anymore.

[reporter] Combs faces
a minimum of 15 years behind bars,

up to life in prison
if convicted on these three felony counts.

[Danyel] I love the music
that came out of Bad Boy Records.

If the accusations
and the complaints are true...

...it wasn't worth it.

You can't listen to it.

At least I cannot
listen to it...

...with the same joy.

I don't trust accountability
in this male culture.

Cases are being overturned,

almost to say,
"You thought we believed you.

You thought the accountability
was gonna happen, right?

We just let you have that
for, like, a little while.

But we're just gonna
snatch it right back."

So you say, "Is somebody
gonna be held accountable?"

I'm like, "I don't know."

And then I say,
"And even if they are...

...what happened
still happened."

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