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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:22,815 --> 00:00:26,095 In late Victorian London lived many detectives 2 00:00:26,129 --> 00:00:29,132 who were the rivals of Sherlock Holmes. 3 00:00:52,535 --> 00:00:54,399 Come, gentlemen. 4 00:00:54,433 --> 00:00:56,056 You have all inspected the corpse. 5 00:00:56,090 --> 00:01:00,232 What else is there worthy of particular note? 6 00:01:00,750 --> 00:01:03,201 Consider the evident characteristics 7 00:01:03,235 --> 00:01:04,581 of the dead man -- 8 00:01:04,616 --> 00:01:09,207 youngish, personable, smartly dressed, 9 00:01:09,241 --> 00:01:10,932 something of a dandy one suspects, 10 00:01:10,967 --> 00:01:13,452 a lady's man with a good deal of male vanity. 11 00:01:13,487 --> 00:01:16,593 And yet there is one outstanding characteristic. 12 00:01:16,628 --> 00:01:18,630 Are you with me yet? 13 00:01:19,217 --> 00:01:21,219 Return to your seats, gentlemen, 14 00:01:21,253 --> 00:01:24,187 and brood on the fact that you have failed to notice 15 00:01:24,222 --> 00:01:26,258 that the middle waistcoat buttons 16 00:01:26,293 --> 00:01:27,570 are done up in the wrong holes. 17 00:01:27,604 --> 00:01:28,881 Ugh! 18 00:01:28,916 --> 00:01:29,882 DR. THORNDYKE: Thank you, Dr. Jervis. 19 00:01:29,917 --> 00:01:30,676 You may breathe again. 20 00:01:30,711 --> 00:01:32,575 Thank you. 21 00:01:32,609 --> 00:01:35,681 DR. THORNDYKE: And now, you few, you happy few 22 00:01:35,716 --> 00:01:39,133 who have survived to the end of this course of lectures, 23 00:01:39,168 --> 00:01:41,756 be so good as to prove that you have learned something 24 00:01:41,791 --> 00:01:44,483 by turning out your pockets of those articles 25 00:01:44,518 --> 00:01:47,176 which every eager student of medical jurisprudence 26 00:01:47,210 --> 00:01:48,246 should carry about his person. 27 00:01:50,317 --> 00:01:51,387 No? 28 00:01:51,421 --> 00:01:53,492 [ Tongue clicking ] 29 00:01:53,527 --> 00:01:56,461 Must I begin all over again? 30 00:01:57,496 --> 00:01:59,257 Pocketknife, 31 00:01:59,291 --> 00:02:01,776 pocket thermometer, 32 00:02:01,811 --> 00:02:04,296 magnifying lens, 33 00:02:04,331 --> 00:02:05,780 scalpel, 34 00:02:05,815 --> 00:02:08,093 forceps, 35 00:02:08,128 --> 00:02:11,407 small box containing slides, 36 00:02:11,441 --> 00:02:12,891 cover slips, 37 00:02:12,925 --> 00:02:14,168 molding wax -- 38 00:02:14,203 --> 00:02:16,170 Dr. Thorndyke. 39 00:02:16,205 --> 00:02:18,448 - Excuse me, sir. - DR. THORNDYKE: Hart. 40 00:02:18,483 --> 00:02:20,381 Have you come back for a refresher? 41 00:02:20,416 --> 00:02:23,350 No, sir. I've just been sent for to a case. 42 00:02:23,384 --> 00:02:25,352 - Would you come with me, sir? - Why? 43 00:02:25,386 --> 00:02:27,457 It's just around the corner, only five minutes away, 44 00:02:27,492 --> 00:02:28,769 and it is my first. 45 00:02:28,803 --> 00:02:30,564 Ah, Hart, are you in practice here now? 46 00:02:30,598 --> 00:02:33,567 No. Assistant to the police surgeon. 47 00:02:33,601 --> 00:02:34,878 Ah. 48 00:02:34,913 --> 00:02:36,639 He must be out. They found me here. 49 00:02:36,673 --> 00:02:38,123 I'd be terribly grateful if you could. 50 00:02:38,158 --> 00:02:40,194 Dr. Hart, you are fully qualified. 51 00:02:40,229 --> 00:02:44,992 It is a case of murder, sir. 52 00:02:45,026 --> 00:02:47,891 [ Indistinct conversations ] 53 00:03:07,290 --> 00:03:09,741 Stop, thief! 54 00:03:09,775 --> 00:03:11,087 Hey, you, boy! 55 00:03:12,364 --> 00:03:14,194 Hey! 56 00:03:14,228 --> 00:03:17,576 Get away! Go on, there! Go on! 57 00:03:22,098 --> 00:03:23,548 Harrow Alley. 58 00:03:23,582 --> 00:03:25,274 Do you remember Defoe's description of this place 59 00:03:25,308 --> 00:03:27,448 in his "Journal of the Plague Year," 60 00:03:27,483 --> 00:03:29,450 dead cart waiting, bell clanging? 61 00:03:40,254 --> 00:03:41,876 You the police doctor? 62 00:03:41,911 --> 00:03:43,153 I am. 63 00:03:43,188 --> 00:03:45,501 She's upstairs. Come on, quick. 64 00:03:50,575 --> 00:03:52,232 All right. 65 00:03:54,095 --> 00:03:56,857 I never knew nothing had happened till half an hour ago. 66 00:03:56,891 --> 00:03:58,479 I swear I didn't. 67 00:03:58,514 --> 00:04:01,275 I thought she'd gone to work, like she always did. 68 00:04:01,310 --> 00:04:03,346 And then I went out in the backyard 69 00:04:03,381 --> 00:04:05,659 and saw her blind was down. 70 00:04:05,693 --> 00:04:08,040 I went upstairs and knocked at her door. 71 00:04:08,075 --> 00:04:09,801 She didn't give no answer. 72 00:04:09,835 --> 00:04:11,768 I knocked again. She still didn't answer. 73 00:04:11,803 --> 00:04:14,046 So, I wondered if she'd got something the matter with her. 74 00:04:14,081 --> 00:04:16,773 And then I went in. 75 00:04:16,808 --> 00:04:18,879 I wouldn't go in that room again, 76 00:04:18,913 --> 00:04:22,020 not if you paid me all the money in the world. 77 00:04:26,611 --> 00:04:28,164 Hart? 78 00:04:28,198 --> 00:04:29,199 I'll be out here if you want me. 79 00:04:29,234 --> 00:04:30,270 Thank you, Mrs... 80 00:04:30,304 --> 00:04:33,031 Goldstein. Mrs. Goldstein. 81 00:04:33,065 --> 00:04:35,067 Well, Hart, what are you waiting for? 82 00:04:35,102 --> 00:04:36,862 For you, Dr. Thorndyke. 83 00:04:36,897 --> 00:04:40,832 I am here only to see that you do credit to my teaching. 84 00:04:53,189 --> 00:04:54,259 DR. HART: Good God! 85 00:04:56,641 --> 00:05:01,784 Some infernal, cowardly beast has done this. 86 00:05:01,818 --> 00:05:03,544 He shall hang. 87 00:05:03,579 --> 00:05:04,787 My God, he shall hang. 88 00:05:04,821 --> 00:05:06,271 That's what we're here for, Hart. 89 00:05:06,306 --> 00:05:07,824 I'm sorry, sir, but I could not help -- 90 00:05:07,859 --> 00:05:09,585 Restrain your emotion. Get out your notebook 91 00:05:09,619 --> 00:05:11,380 and take notes in the manner I've taught you. 92 00:05:11,414 --> 00:05:12,898 Yes, sir. 93 00:05:14,831 --> 00:05:17,075 Jervis, you can be useful. 94 00:05:17,109 --> 00:05:18,801 I want a plan of the room 95 00:05:18,835 --> 00:05:20,527 with a detailed description of everything in it. 96 00:05:20,561 --> 00:05:23,668 Certainly, Dr. Thorndyke. Anything else? 97 00:05:23,702 --> 00:05:26,015 DR. THORNDYKE: Not at the moment. 98 00:05:29,087 --> 00:05:31,054 [ Clicking ] 99 00:05:34,610 --> 00:05:36,370 The key? 100 00:05:36,405 --> 00:05:37,820 Get on with your work. 101 00:05:37,854 --> 00:05:39,442 The foolish bloodhounds will be here any minute, 102 00:05:39,477 --> 00:05:42,065 trampling and rummaging. 103 00:05:45,586 --> 00:05:47,001 Mrs. Goldstein. 104 00:05:47,036 --> 00:05:48,658 I'm not going in there again. 105 00:05:48,693 --> 00:05:50,660 Did she always lock her door at night? 106 00:05:50,695 --> 00:05:52,869 MRS. GOLDSTEIN: Yes. 107 00:05:52,904 --> 00:05:55,355 Yes, I think so. The key was always inside. 108 00:05:55,389 --> 00:05:57,149 But it was unlocked this morning. 109 00:05:57,184 --> 00:05:59,393 Yes, I just opened the door and went straight in. 110 00:05:59,428 --> 00:06:00,981 And the street door -- 111 00:06:01,015 --> 00:06:02,223 was that secure when you came down this morning? 112 00:06:02,258 --> 00:06:03,501 It was locked. 113 00:06:03,535 --> 00:06:05,434 But not bolted. 114 00:06:05,468 --> 00:06:07,401 We never bolt the door. 115 00:06:07,436 --> 00:06:09,369 Some of the lodgers comes in late sometimes. 116 00:06:09,403 --> 00:06:12,061 I understand exactly what you mean. 117 00:06:12,095 --> 00:06:16,617 Well, whom are we going to hang? 118 00:06:17,204 --> 00:06:19,448 She was stabbed in the neck. 119 00:06:19,482 --> 00:06:21,001 Evidently. 120 00:06:21,035 --> 00:06:22,002 With a knife. 121 00:06:22,036 --> 00:06:23,555 We assume. 122 00:06:23,590 --> 00:06:27,214 Very forcibly, by someone with considerable strength. 123 00:06:27,248 --> 00:06:28,457 Good point. 124 00:06:28,491 --> 00:06:30,769 But someone of short stature. 125 00:06:30,804 --> 00:06:32,357 Oh? Why? 126 00:06:32,392 --> 00:06:34,566 The box over there with the hassock on it. 127 00:06:34,601 --> 00:06:38,121 The murderer could not reach her from the side of the bed 128 00:06:38,156 --> 00:06:41,608 and was not tall enough to lean over the bedhead. 129 00:06:41,642 --> 00:06:44,749 So he put those there to stand on. 130 00:06:44,783 --> 00:06:46,854 Ah, yes, I see. 131 00:06:46,889 --> 00:06:49,719 Thank you. What else? 132 00:06:49,754 --> 00:06:51,238 Nothing else yet. 133 00:06:51,272 --> 00:06:52,757 The pillow? 134 00:06:52,791 --> 00:06:54,517 I beg your pardon, sir. 135 00:06:54,552 --> 00:06:56,623 DR. THORNDYKE: What do you make of this? 136 00:06:58,866 --> 00:06:59,833 DR. HART: Sand. 137 00:06:59,867 --> 00:07:03,043 Sand? Where? 138 00:07:03,077 --> 00:07:06,149 Silver sand on the pillow. 139 00:07:06,184 --> 00:07:07,806 What do you make of that, revered sir? 140 00:07:07,841 --> 00:07:10,740 We will consider the explanation later. 141 00:07:10,775 --> 00:07:13,467 Dr. Hart, would you do me the kindness 142 00:07:13,502 --> 00:07:15,435 of drawing back the bedclothes? 143 00:07:17,402 --> 00:07:19,024 DR. JERVIS: I should tell you -- 144 00:07:19,059 --> 00:07:20,957 one basin full of bloodstained water. 145 00:07:20,992 --> 00:07:22,545 Murderers commonly wash their hands. 146 00:07:22,580 --> 00:07:24,133 Sir, look. Come and look. 147 00:07:24,167 --> 00:07:25,445 Look at what? 148 00:07:25,479 --> 00:07:28,551 I was wrong. It was done by a woman. 149 00:07:28,586 --> 00:07:30,208 Yes. 150 00:07:30,242 --> 00:07:33,867 Would you, gently as possible, separate the fingers? 151 00:07:39,251 --> 00:07:41,599 I can't, sir. Rigor mortis. 152 00:07:41,633 --> 00:07:43,566 Yes. 153 00:07:43,601 --> 00:07:45,982 But that is definitely a woman's hair. 154 00:07:46,017 --> 00:07:47,950 DR. THORNDYKE: Yes. Have you taken her temperature? 155 00:07:47,984 --> 00:07:50,262 - No, not yet. - Do so. 156 00:07:50,297 --> 00:07:51,816 You would agree, would you not, sir, 157 00:07:51,850 --> 00:07:53,749 that that is definitely a woman's hair? 158 00:07:53,783 --> 00:07:56,199 I would agree that there is more here than meets the eye 159 00:07:56,234 --> 00:07:57,580 at first glance. 160 00:07:57,615 --> 00:08:00,618 Three books -- all romances, all in German. 161 00:08:00,652 --> 00:08:02,965 The book on the bedside table? 162 00:08:03,655 --> 00:08:04,967 Also German. 163 00:08:05,001 --> 00:08:07,832 And the candlestick? 164 00:08:07,866 --> 00:08:09,350 It's burnt right down, 165 00:08:09,385 --> 00:08:10,973 just a tiny bit at the bottom of the socket. 166 00:08:11,007 --> 00:08:14,148 Make a particular note of the pattern of that socket. 167 00:08:14,183 --> 00:08:15,564 [ Footsteps approaching ] 168 00:08:15,598 --> 00:08:18,221 I'm afraid the foolish bloodhounds are arriving. 169 00:08:18,256 --> 00:08:20,810 Well, we've done something. Not enough, but something. 170 00:08:20,845 --> 00:08:22,260 [ Footsteps approaching ] 171 00:08:22,294 --> 00:08:24,987 - Mrs. Goldstein? - Yeah, they're in there. 172 00:08:25,021 --> 00:08:26,367 And don't you think of running away. 173 00:08:26,402 --> 00:08:27,541 I shall need you in a moment. 174 00:08:27,576 --> 00:08:29,992 - After you, Doctor. - Thank you. 175 00:08:34,479 --> 00:08:35,963 Good morning, sir. 176 00:08:35,998 --> 00:08:37,413 Friends of yours, Hart? 177 00:08:37,447 --> 00:08:39,553 Uh, yes. Well, actually -- 178 00:08:39,588 --> 00:08:42,142 We were with Dr. Hart when he was summoned here. 179 00:08:42,176 --> 00:08:43,557 We are -- were his professors. 180 00:08:43,592 --> 00:08:46,698 I see. Not practical, working doctors. 181 00:08:46,733 --> 00:08:48,562 DR. JERVIS: Dr. Thorndyke is not unheard of. 182 00:08:48,597 --> 00:08:50,253 Oh, really? 183 00:08:50,288 --> 00:08:51,841 Well, I'm afraid your locus standi 184 00:08:51,876 --> 00:08:53,567 is a question for the police. 185 00:08:53,602 --> 00:08:56,363 My assistant was not authorized to call in outsiders. 186 00:08:56,397 --> 00:08:57,571 All right, you needn't wait, Hart. 187 00:08:57,606 --> 00:08:58,745 No, sir. 188 00:08:59,953 --> 00:09:01,506 Detective Sergeant Bates, isn't it? 189 00:09:01,541 --> 00:09:03,025 That's right, sir. 190 00:09:03,059 --> 00:09:04,785 The Parade Street case five years ago. 191 00:09:07,167 --> 00:09:09,618 Well, I'm sure I've no objection 192 00:09:09,652 --> 00:09:12,172 to Dr. Thorndyke being present or Dr... 193 00:09:12,206 --> 00:09:14,208 - DR. JERVIS: Jervis. - Or Dr. Jervis. 194 00:09:14,243 --> 00:09:16,832 Many hands make light work, eh? Well, then... 195 00:09:16,866 --> 00:09:18,834 Hart, before you go, what's her name? 196 00:09:18,868 --> 00:09:21,215 I'm afraid I don't know, sir. 197 00:09:21,250 --> 00:09:23,770 That is the first thing you should have found out. 198 00:09:23,804 --> 00:09:25,323 Weren't you taught that? 199 00:09:25,357 --> 00:09:28,222 - I'm sorry. - Oh, never mind. 200 00:09:28,257 --> 00:09:30,362 How long would you say she's been dead, Dr. Thorndyke? 201 00:09:30,397 --> 00:09:31,398 About 10 hours. 202 00:09:31,432 --> 00:09:32,675 Thank you, sir. 203 00:09:32,710 --> 00:09:34,712 That fixes it at 2:00 this morning. 204 00:09:34,746 --> 00:09:37,542 - Now, then... - Would you excuse me a moment? 205 00:09:39,164 --> 00:09:40,510 I've told him not to worry. 206 00:09:40,545 --> 00:09:43,030 My advice is stop working for that man. 207 00:09:43,065 --> 00:09:45,585 You'll forget everything I ever taught you. 208 00:09:45,619 --> 00:09:47,966 He's the worst kind of idiot -- a vain idiot. 209 00:09:48,001 --> 00:09:49,416 Dr. Thorndyke, of course, 210 00:09:49,450 --> 00:09:51,729 has not a trace of vanity in his composition. 211 00:09:51,763 --> 00:09:54,386 Not a trace. 212 00:09:54,421 --> 00:09:56,078 Yes, well, sir, I must be off. 213 00:09:56,112 --> 00:09:58,598 Keep to the left side of the stairs as you go down, 214 00:09:58,632 --> 00:09:59,944 would you? 215 00:10:03,430 --> 00:10:04,983 You know the policeman? 216 00:10:05,018 --> 00:10:06,778 - I saved his bacon once. - Ah. 217 00:10:06,813 --> 00:10:08,193 I'm disinclined to do so again. 218 00:10:08,228 --> 00:10:09,678 The force will be better off without him. 219 00:10:09,712 --> 00:10:10,679 DR. JERVIS: Dishonest? 220 00:10:10,713 --> 00:10:12,784 No, the usual bluffer. 221 00:10:12,819 --> 00:10:16,029 Totally at a loss unless he catches his man red-handed 222 00:10:16,063 --> 00:10:18,618 or he's told who did it by an army of informers. 223 00:10:18,652 --> 00:10:20,965 - Mrs. Goldstein? - Yes, sir? 224 00:10:20,999 --> 00:10:24,762 I take it you have several young ladies staying at this house? 225 00:10:24,796 --> 00:10:26,729 Yes, that's right, sir. 226 00:10:26,764 --> 00:10:28,697 And I take it that one of them 227 00:10:28,731 --> 00:10:31,354 is short or shortish, with long, red hair? 228 00:10:32,804 --> 00:10:34,219 May O'Brien. 229 00:10:34,254 --> 00:10:36,394 And there has been a disagreement 230 00:10:36,428 --> 00:10:39,155 between Miss O'Brien and the dead girl? 231 00:10:39,190 --> 00:10:41,295 Well, did she do it? Did May do it? 232 00:10:41,330 --> 00:10:43,815 I have not yet formed an opinion. 233 00:10:43,850 --> 00:10:45,023 She did swear she'd kill Minna. 234 00:10:45,058 --> 00:10:46,818 Minna? 235 00:10:46,853 --> 00:10:49,787 Yeah, I heard her swear it, but I never thought she meant it. 236 00:10:49,821 --> 00:10:51,996 No, I don't believe she meant it. 237 00:10:52,030 --> 00:10:53,791 It was just her Irish temper, that's all. 238 00:10:53,825 --> 00:10:55,378 You know the Irish. 239 00:10:55,413 --> 00:10:57,587 Shouting, screaming their heads off one minute, 240 00:10:57,622 --> 00:11:00,142 and then, next minute, it's all friends again. 241 00:11:00,176 --> 00:11:02,144 She would have been friends again with Minna. 242 00:11:02,178 --> 00:11:03,145 I know she would. 243 00:11:03,179 --> 00:11:05,216 Oh, no. 244 00:11:05,250 --> 00:11:06,976 May couldn't have done a thing like that. 245 00:11:07,011 --> 00:11:08,357 The detective and the surgeon 246 00:11:08,391 --> 00:11:09,703 are in the process of deciding otherwise. 247 00:11:09,738 --> 00:11:11,187 MRS. GOLDSTEIN: Oh, she couldn't have. 248 00:11:11,222 --> 00:11:13,638 Then it's as well that I'm here now. 249 00:11:13,673 --> 00:11:15,329 Well, I suppose they've come 250 00:11:15,364 --> 00:11:17,711 to their slapdash conclusion by now, don't you? 251 00:11:17,746 --> 00:11:19,540 [ Door opens ] 252 00:11:19,575 --> 00:11:22,440 Well, gentlemen, have you come to your -- to a conclusion? 253 00:11:22,474 --> 00:11:25,408 - Not difficult, sir. - No, I'm sure not. 254 00:11:25,443 --> 00:11:26,962 You'll have noticed that hair in her hand 255 00:11:26,996 --> 00:11:28,480 and the box with the hassock on it? 256 00:11:28,515 --> 00:11:30,310 Yes. 257 00:11:30,344 --> 00:11:33,175 So, all we need is a shortish, red-haired woman with a knife. 258 00:11:33,209 --> 00:11:34,728 - Bob's your uncle. - Yes. 259 00:11:34,763 --> 00:11:36,212 Clear as daylight. 260 00:11:36,247 --> 00:11:37,524 Yes, and you would agree, Doctor? 261 00:11:37,558 --> 00:11:38,767 Hmm? 262 00:11:38,801 --> 00:11:40,147 Well, I see no reason to disagree. 263 00:11:40,182 --> 00:11:42,736 None? Admirable. 264 00:11:42,771 --> 00:11:46,429 Well, Sergeant, what do you think is the sequence of events? 265 00:11:46,464 --> 00:11:50,330 I take it the deceased read herself to sleep. 266 00:11:50,364 --> 00:11:53,195 Book on the table, candle burnt right away. 267 00:11:53,229 --> 00:11:56,543 I imagine this red-haired woman came in quietly -- 268 00:11:56,577 --> 00:11:58,579 The door being unlocked? 269 00:11:58,614 --> 00:12:00,547 Oh, it must have been. 270 00:12:00,581 --> 00:12:04,758 I suppose she turned on the gas since there wasn't no candles, 271 00:12:04,793 --> 00:12:08,175 put the box and the hassock at the bedhead, 272 00:12:08,210 --> 00:12:11,213 leaned over, and cut the victim's throat. 273 00:12:11,247 --> 00:12:13,491 The deceased must have half-waked, 274 00:12:13,525 --> 00:12:15,631 clutched at the murderess's hair, 275 00:12:15,665 --> 00:12:17,564 but got killed almost at once. 276 00:12:17,598 --> 00:12:21,602 Then the murderess washed her hands in this basin here, 277 00:12:21,637 --> 00:12:24,260 cleaned the knife, tidied up the bed a bit, 278 00:12:24,295 --> 00:12:25,745 turned off the gas, 279 00:12:25,779 --> 00:12:27,263 and out of the room as quietly as she come in. 280 00:12:27,298 --> 00:12:28,540 Splendid. 281 00:12:28,575 --> 00:12:30,370 Well, that's how it happened. 282 00:12:30,404 --> 00:12:33,476 How do you account for the sand on the pillow? 283 00:12:33,511 --> 00:12:35,340 Ah. You noticed that. 284 00:12:35,375 --> 00:12:37,515 I couldn't think how it got there. 285 00:12:37,549 --> 00:12:39,897 Simple, sir, when you come to look around. 286 00:12:39,931 --> 00:12:43,072 Ball of sandsoap on a washdown basin with bloodstained water. 287 00:12:43,107 --> 00:12:46,351 As I said, sir, after the crime, the murderess washed her hands. 288 00:12:46,386 --> 00:12:48,388 Then, while she was drying her hands, 289 00:12:48,422 --> 00:12:51,253 she came back to the bedhead, 290 00:12:51,287 --> 00:12:54,256 leant over to make sure the deceased was really deceased, 291 00:12:54,290 --> 00:12:56,120 and some sand sprinkled down onto the pillow. 292 00:12:56,154 --> 00:12:57,984 Ah, yes, of course. 293 00:12:58,018 --> 00:13:00,503 I didn't think of that. 294 00:13:00,538 --> 00:13:01,953 Well, I think we better have the landlady in 295 00:13:01,988 --> 00:13:03,506 to make some inquiries. 296 00:13:03,541 --> 00:13:05,129 Yes, I think you're probably right, Dr. Davidson. 297 00:13:05,163 --> 00:13:07,096 The landlady's outside. Should I send her in? 298 00:13:07,131 --> 00:13:10,099 - If you would, sir. - Delighted. 299 00:13:14,207 --> 00:13:16,071 Mrs. Goldstein, they want to talk to you. 300 00:13:16,105 --> 00:13:17,486 I'm not going in there. 301 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:19,074 There is nothing to be seen. 302 00:13:19,108 --> 00:13:21,870 They will ask you the same questions I asked you. 303 00:13:21,904 --> 00:13:25,287 Answer them truthfully, or you yourself will be in danger. 304 00:13:28,911 --> 00:13:30,292 Could I possibly have done more? 305 00:13:30,326 --> 00:13:32,052 Could I have given them a broader hint? 306 00:13:32,087 --> 00:13:33,605 All that fooling about with the door? 307 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:35,193 They don't deserve to be helped. 308 00:13:35,228 --> 00:13:37,678 And anyway, you've decided not to. 309 00:13:37,713 --> 00:13:41,786 The science of detection is not yet out of the cradle. 310 00:13:41,821 --> 00:13:43,167 Look, Jervis. 311 00:13:43,201 --> 00:13:46,066 Look at what they've chosen to ignore. 312 00:13:46,101 --> 00:13:47,827 Burnt end of a match. 313 00:13:47,861 --> 00:13:50,174 Exactly. Now follow me and look. 314 00:13:51,106 --> 00:13:52,590 Look. What do you see? 315 00:13:52,624 --> 00:13:53,763 Spot of candle wax. 316 00:13:53,798 --> 00:13:57,077 Exactly. And look. 317 00:13:57,112 --> 00:13:58,872 DR. JERVIS: Another spot of candle wax. 318 00:13:58,907 --> 00:14:01,323 Yes. And look. 319 00:14:01,357 --> 00:14:03,532 DR. JERVIS: Another burnt end of a match. 320 00:14:03,566 --> 00:14:04,395 And look. 321 00:14:05,154 --> 00:14:07,329 Another spot of candle wax. 322 00:14:07,363 --> 00:14:08,571 With what? 323 00:14:08,606 --> 00:14:12,368 Well, with -- with the mark in it 324 00:14:12,403 --> 00:14:15,820 of the -- the front of a heel of a -- of a shoe? 325 00:14:15,855 --> 00:14:17,546 DR. THORNDYKE: I think not. 326 00:14:17,580 --> 00:14:19,099 - A galosh? - I think. 327 00:14:19,134 --> 00:14:21,446 A galosh descending the stair. 328 00:14:21,481 --> 00:14:22,689 Right. 329 00:14:22,723 --> 00:14:24,380 And look. 330 00:14:24,415 --> 00:14:28,143 Faint marks of rather wet, muddy galoshes. 331 00:14:28,177 --> 00:14:29,558 DR. THORNDYKE: Right. 332 00:14:29,592 --> 00:14:31,905 Well, anyone can have wet, muddy galoshes. 333 00:14:31,940 --> 00:14:35,115 Yes, if it has been raining. 334 00:14:35,150 --> 00:14:38,256 More candle wax, more marks of wet, muddy feet 335 00:14:38,291 --> 00:14:41,363 because it was raining and because it was dark. 336 00:14:41,397 --> 00:14:43,089 Well, it could perfectly well have been 337 00:14:43,123 --> 00:14:44,538 one of the other lodgers 338 00:14:44,573 --> 00:14:46,471 coming in late at night while it was raining 339 00:14:46,506 --> 00:14:48,059 and lighting matches and a candle 340 00:14:48,094 --> 00:14:49,440 to see their way upstairs. 341 00:14:49,474 --> 00:14:51,028 And then coming down again? 342 00:14:51,062 --> 00:14:52,581 Or coming in with a friend, 343 00:14:52,615 --> 00:14:55,101 and then the friend coming down again. 344 00:14:55,135 --> 00:14:57,897 If a candle, why the burnt-out matches, 345 00:14:57,931 --> 00:15:01,176 one halfway up the stairs and one on the landing? 346 00:15:01,210 --> 00:15:02,522 I shall have to think about that. 347 00:15:02,556 --> 00:15:04,075 Do. 348 00:15:04,110 --> 00:15:05,939 And did you make a note of the socket -- 349 00:15:05,974 --> 00:15:08,390 the pattern of the socket of the bedside candlestick? 350 00:15:08,424 --> 00:15:11,703 Yes, rather unusual, a sort of skeleton pattern -- 351 00:15:11,738 --> 00:15:13,395 eight thin, flat strips of metal. 352 00:15:13,429 --> 00:15:14,948 Like that? 353 00:15:14,983 --> 00:15:18,331 Yes, corresponding to those marks exactly. 354 00:15:18,365 --> 00:15:21,230 Would you turn the latch backwards and forwards 355 00:15:21,265 --> 00:15:24,199 to see how smoothly it runs and how much noise it makes? 356 00:15:26,995 --> 00:15:30,377 Well, the latch is as smooth as butter and silent as the grave. 357 00:15:30,412 --> 00:15:32,759 It's undoubtedly been oiled very recently. 358 00:15:32,793 --> 00:15:34,968 Whether by a short, red-headed woman, I regret I'm unable -- 359 00:15:35,003 --> 00:15:36,970 Oh! 360 00:15:37,005 --> 00:15:38,454 I beg your pardon. I was just -- 361 00:15:38,489 --> 00:15:39,973 - Are you the police? - No, they're, uh -- 362 00:15:40,008 --> 00:15:41,492 Is she dead? 363 00:15:41,526 --> 00:15:43,183 Yes. 364 00:15:43,218 --> 00:15:46,669 Really dead? Is she really dead? 365 00:15:46,704 --> 00:15:48,913 I'm afraid so. 366 00:15:48,948 --> 00:15:51,364 - Miss O'Brien? - O'BRIEN: Mm-hmm. 367 00:15:55,506 --> 00:15:59,027 Is there anything we can -- Would you like us -- 368 00:15:59,061 --> 00:16:01,581 Shall we be off? 369 00:16:01,615 --> 00:16:03,893 We don't need to see that girl arrested, 370 00:16:03,928 --> 00:16:05,516 and I've had quite enough for one morning 371 00:16:05,550 --> 00:16:07,380 of seeing the police do everything wrong, 372 00:16:07,414 --> 00:16:09,589 as if I'd never talked, never even existed. 373 00:16:09,623 --> 00:16:11,625 Thorndyke! 374 00:16:13,144 --> 00:16:16,527 Are you, as I sometimes suspect, totally inhuman? 375 00:16:19,702 --> 00:16:22,602 [ Hooves clopping ] 376 00:16:29,195 --> 00:16:30,955 I'm simply curious to know 377 00:16:30,990 --> 00:16:33,095 whether you intend to take any active part in this affair? 378 00:16:33,130 --> 00:16:35,028 That depends on circumstances. 379 00:16:35,063 --> 00:16:37,341 Then I'm afraid I must ask -- What circumstances? 380 00:16:37,375 --> 00:16:38,549 I have some evidence. 381 00:16:38,583 --> 00:16:40,344 What it is worth, I do not yet know. 382 00:16:40,378 --> 00:16:42,035 Nor do I know whether the police 383 00:16:42,070 --> 00:16:43,899 have observed the same set of facts. 384 00:16:43,933 --> 00:16:45,418 You know perfectly well they haven't. 385 00:16:45,452 --> 00:16:46,764 I suspect they have not. 386 00:16:46,798 --> 00:16:48,731 I do not yet know it of my own knowledge. 387 00:16:48,766 --> 00:16:50,699 You're being exceptionally professorial today. 388 00:16:50,733 --> 00:16:52,045 DR. THORNDYKE: That may be. 389 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:53,150 May I hazard a guess as to why? 390 00:16:53,184 --> 00:16:54,634 DR. THORNDYKE: My dear Jervis, 391 00:16:54,668 --> 00:16:56,325 I've been trying to teach you for years 392 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:58,258 not to indulge in guessing. 393 00:16:58,293 --> 00:17:00,433 You were annoyed with your students, 394 00:17:00,467 --> 00:17:03,125 those dumb animals who sit and take notes and learn nothing. 395 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:04,540 Students are students. 396 00:17:04,575 --> 00:17:05,921 I accept their stupidity. 397 00:17:05,955 --> 00:17:07,371 On top of your annoyance 398 00:17:07,405 --> 00:17:09,545 at your evident failure to teach them anything 399 00:17:09,580 --> 00:17:10,753 comes your even greater annoyance 400 00:17:10,788 --> 00:17:12,065 at your failure to teach 401 00:17:12,100 --> 00:17:13,446 the police force of this metropolis -- 402 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:15,275 The police had exactly the same opportunities 403 00:17:15,310 --> 00:17:16,518 as myself this morning 404 00:17:16,552 --> 00:17:17,622 to discover what was significant. 405 00:17:17,657 --> 00:17:19,555 You rang, sir? 406 00:17:19,590 --> 00:17:22,731 Polton, how refreshing to see someone who's not a fool. 407 00:17:22,765 --> 00:17:24,698 Yes, sometimes, sir. 408 00:17:24,733 --> 00:17:27,874 This piece of molding wax -- which pray handle with care -- 409 00:17:27,908 --> 00:17:30,980 shows the impression of a candle end. 410 00:17:31,015 --> 00:17:32,361 I'll be careful, sir. 411 00:17:32,396 --> 00:17:34,122 It will show the shape of the socket 412 00:17:34,156 --> 00:17:35,675 in which the candle was held. 413 00:17:35,709 --> 00:17:36,986 It will also, I imagine, 414 00:17:37,021 --> 00:17:38,954 show the thumb and fingerprints 415 00:17:38,988 --> 00:17:41,094 of whoever held the candle in his or her right hand. 416 00:17:43,545 --> 00:17:45,202 - You want a cast of it, sir? - Please. 417 00:17:45,236 --> 00:17:47,031 Right. 418 00:17:47,066 --> 00:17:50,069 Oh, Mrs. Hobbs wants to know if you wanted lunch, sir. 419 00:17:50,103 --> 00:17:51,449 DR. THORNDYKE: Please. 420 00:17:51,484 --> 00:17:53,279 Right. 421 00:17:55,074 --> 00:17:56,696 Invaluable fellow. 422 00:17:56,730 --> 00:17:58,353 Indeed. 423 00:17:58,387 --> 00:18:01,252 I ask again -- are you going to help the police? 424 00:18:01,287 --> 00:18:03,772 I shall do everything in my power to assist the authorities. 425 00:18:03,806 --> 00:18:05,291 That is a matter of common citizenship. 426 00:18:05,325 --> 00:18:07,051 [ Laughs ] 427 00:18:07,086 --> 00:18:09,364 Do you -- forgive me -- consider yourself to be a common citizen? 428 00:18:12,091 --> 00:18:14,645 If you want to know what was on the girl's pillow, 429 00:18:14,679 --> 00:18:16,612 just take a look at this. 430 00:18:16,647 --> 00:18:19,167 It's rather a pretty specimen. 431 00:18:24,068 --> 00:18:25,897 But this is Foraminifera. 432 00:18:25,932 --> 00:18:27,727 DR. THORNDYKE: I think. 433 00:18:27,761 --> 00:18:29,556 Then it's not silver sand, after all. 434 00:18:29,591 --> 00:18:32,145 - No. - And not from the sandsoap. 435 00:18:32,180 --> 00:18:34,285 - Certainly not. - Then what? 436 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:36,529 It is a message to us from the deep sea, 437 00:18:36,563 --> 00:18:38,600 from the floor of the Eastern Mediterranean. 438 00:18:38,634 --> 00:18:40,222 - Can you read the message? - Not yet. 439 00:18:40,257 --> 00:18:42,017 What are you doing this afternoon? 440 00:18:42,051 --> 00:18:43,467 What are you going to ask me to do? 441 00:18:43,501 --> 00:18:44,709 I have a faculty meeting at 3:00, 442 00:18:44,744 --> 00:18:45,917 which will take heaven knows how long. 443 00:18:45,952 --> 00:18:47,402 Well, what do you want me to do? 444 00:18:47,436 --> 00:18:50,094 Go back to Harrow Alley. Talk to Mrs. Goldstein. 445 00:18:50,129 --> 00:18:52,441 I want a list of all the people who were -- 446 00:18:52,476 --> 00:18:53,753 What shall we say? -- 447 00:18:53,787 --> 00:18:55,513 closely acquainted with the dead girl. 448 00:18:55,548 --> 00:18:58,033 I want their names, addresses, and occupations. 449 00:18:58,067 --> 00:18:59,655 Why their occupations? 450 00:18:59,690 --> 00:19:02,520 My dear Jervis, pray don't indulge in mental indolence. 451 00:19:02,555 --> 00:19:04,764 You have the essential facts as I have them. 452 00:19:04,798 --> 00:19:06,904 Consider them separately, collectively, 453 00:19:06,938 --> 00:19:08,526 and in relation to the circumstances. 454 00:19:08,561 --> 00:19:10,010 Well, I was only trying -- 455 00:19:10,045 --> 00:19:11,598 Consider the oiling of the locks 456 00:19:11,633 --> 00:19:14,532 on the street door and on the girl's door. 457 00:19:14,567 --> 00:19:16,707 Consider the marks on the stairs. 458 00:19:16,741 --> 00:19:20,159 Consider the absence of a candle in the bedside candlestick. 459 00:19:20,193 --> 00:19:22,230 Consider what you have just seen under the microscope. 460 00:19:22,264 --> 00:19:25,129 And don't attempt to suck my brain 461 00:19:25,164 --> 00:19:27,166 when you have an excellent brain of your own to suck. 462 00:19:29,478 --> 00:19:31,549 [ Indistinct conversations ] 463 00:19:31,584 --> 00:19:33,689 [ Indistinct shouting ] 464 00:19:36,727 --> 00:19:38,867 [ Bell rings ] 465 00:19:41,525 --> 00:19:43,078 Oh! 466 00:19:43,112 --> 00:19:44,942 Good afternoon. May I speak to Mrs. Goldstein? 467 00:19:44,976 --> 00:19:46,875 - You was here this morning. - Yes. 468 00:19:46,909 --> 00:19:48,497 - Police? - No. 469 00:19:48,532 --> 00:19:51,397 Well -- Well, what do you want, then? 470 00:19:51,431 --> 00:19:53,640 I simply want a few words with Mrs. Goldstein. 471 00:19:53,675 --> 00:19:56,436 Of course, if you'd prefer me to speak to the policeman -- 472 00:19:56,471 --> 00:19:57,955 Come in. 473 00:19:57,989 --> 00:19:59,957 Thank you. 474 00:20:01,717 --> 00:20:04,237 - You was with that other one. - That's right. 475 00:20:04,272 --> 00:20:06,446 Dr. Thorndyke. I'm his partner. 476 00:20:06,481 --> 00:20:10,450 Listen, May O'Brien did it. What else do you want to know? 477 00:20:10,485 --> 00:20:12,245 Do you believe May O'Brien did it? 478 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:14,109 Of course. She hated Minna, didn't she? 479 00:20:14,143 --> 00:20:15,869 She said she'd kill her. I heard it myself. 480 00:20:15,904 --> 00:20:17,492 Minna was my friend. 481 00:20:17,526 --> 00:20:20,149 Forgive me. Why did she hate Minna? 482 00:20:20,184 --> 00:20:21,944 I've already told the police all this. 483 00:20:21,979 --> 00:20:23,049 Why should I tell you? 484 00:20:23,083 --> 00:20:24,499 I want to see justice done. 485 00:20:24,533 --> 00:20:26,535 Oh, you'll see it done, all right. 486 00:20:26,570 --> 00:20:29,228 Oh, yes, anybody here will tell you the same. 487 00:20:29,262 --> 00:20:30,850 Ever since Minna come over from Germany -- 488 00:20:30,884 --> 00:20:31,885 Ah, she was German? 489 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:33,611 She come over a year ago, 490 00:20:33,646 --> 00:20:36,235 and May had a sweetheart, or thought she had -- Sam Turner. 491 00:20:36,269 --> 00:20:38,064 And Minna took him away from her, 492 00:20:38,098 --> 00:20:39,824 and quite right, too, if you ask me. 493 00:20:39,859 --> 00:20:41,274 He was too good for that May. 494 00:20:41,309 --> 00:20:43,863 So, that's why, and anybody will tell you. 495 00:20:43,897 --> 00:20:46,486 And you yourself heard May O'Brien say she would kill? 496 00:20:46,521 --> 00:20:49,282 Only last week, here where I'm standing now. 497 00:20:49,317 --> 00:20:50,628 There was me and Minna 498 00:20:50,663 --> 00:20:53,286 and Edie Johnson from the second-floor front. 499 00:20:53,321 --> 00:20:55,323 And we was going out for a bit of a walk, you know? 500 00:20:55,357 --> 00:20:56,945 And May comes in, 501 00:20:56,979 --> 00:20:59,223 and she starts shouting at Minna and calling her names 502 00:20:59,258 --> 00:21:00,224 because of Sam. 503 00:21:00,259 --> 00:21:02,330 And Minna just laughed at her 504 00:21:02,364 --> 00:21:03,710 and told her she could have Paul Petrofsky instead. 505 00:21:03,745 --> 00:21:05,298 Paul Petrofsky? 506 00:21:05,333 --> 00:21:07,300 He was Minna's friend when she first come over, 507 00:21:07,335 --> 00:21:08,681 before she took up with Sam. 508 00:21:08,715 --> 00:21:10,303 You don't know much, do you? 509 00:21:10,338 --> 00:21:11,442 And you heard May say -- 510 00:21:11,477 --> 00:21:14,514 We all heard her, every one of us. 511 00:21:14,549 --> 00:21:16,516 She said, "Minna Adler, 512 00:21:16,551 --> 00:21:19,208 I'm gonna cut your throat one of these nights, 513 00:21:19,243 --> 00:21:20,658 even if I swing for it." 514 00:21:20,693 --> 00:21:24,041 Kate Wilfer, you get along upstairs. 515 00:21:26,492 --> 00:21:30,737 Well, it's the gospel truth, and she knows it, same as I do. 516 00:21:30,772 --> 00:21:33,084 Good afternoon, Mrs. Goldstein. 517 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:34,879 I have a message from Dr. Thorndyke, 518 00:21:34,914 --> 00:21:36,295 who was here with me this morning 519 00:21:36,329 --> 00:21:38,089 and who's taking an interest in this case. 520 00:21:38,124 --> 00:21:39,712 What's he want to take an interest in it for? 521 00:21:39,746 --> 00:21:42,197 Dr. Thorndyke is a very eminent man. 522 00:21:42,231 --> 00:21:44,199 Can he bring the dead back to life, then? 523 00:21:44,233 --> 00:21:46,270 He's often saved people from dying. 524 00:21:46,305 --> 00:21:48,099 Tell him to get here a bit sooner next time. 525 00:21:48,134 --> 00:21:49,411 Dr. Thorndyke is anxious 526 00:21:49,446 --> 00:21:51,206 to arrive at the truth of this affair. 527 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:54,002 She told you the truth, didn't she? 528 00:21:54,036 --> 00:21:56,832 Mrs. Goldstein, this morning you didn't believe 529 00:21:56,867 --> 00:21:58,869 that May O'Brien could have committed this crime. 530 00:21:58,903 --> 00:22:01,147 And I know better now, don't I, from that detective? 531 00:22:01,181 --> 00:22:02,390 The police aren't always right. 532 00:22:02,424 --> 00:22:05,013 Around these parts, they're right. 533 00:22:05,047 --> 00:22:06,635 Dr. Thorndyke is anxious to have 534 00:22:06,670 --> 00:22:08,879 a list of the people who knew the dead girl, 535 00:22:08,913 --> 00:22:10,329 with their addresses and occupations. 536 00:22:10,363 --> 00:22:11,502 No. 537 00:22:11,537 --> 00:22:13,366 He has good reasons. 538 00:22:13,401 --> 00:22:16,645 You tell your Dr. Thorndyke I've got a life to live around here. 539 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,407 I'm not gonna get no more people mixed up in this, 540 00:22:19,441 --> 00:22:21,685 not when I don't have to, not for your doctor. 541 00:22:21,719 --> 00:22:23,376 You tell him so, from me. 542 00:22:23,411 --> 00:22:25,930 He wants any lists, he goes to the police for them. 543 00:22:25,965 --> 00:22:28,416 Dr. Thorndyke has friends of importance in the police. 544 00:22:28,450 --> 00:22:30,245 Well, then he's all right, isn't he? 545 00:22:30,279 --> 00:22:32,661 [ Sighs ] 546 00:22:32,696 --> 00:22:35,802 Mrs. Goldstein, are you aware of the present law 547 00:22:35,837 --> 00:22:38,149 relating to common lodging houses being used as brothels? 548 00:22:40,842 --> 00:22:42,568 My girls is all working girls. 549 00:22:42,602 --> 00:22:44,328 Are you aware of the law 550 00:22:44,363 --> 00:22:46,675 relating to the importation of prostitutes from abroad? 551 00:22:46,710 --> 00:22:48,815 You can't say that. 552 00:22:48,850 --> 00:22:51,680 She was a waitress -- Empire Restaurant, Fenchurch Street. 553 00:22:51,715 --> 00:22:53,993 Oh, yes, I'm sure all your girls have other jobs 554 00:22:54,027 --> 00:22:55,857 during the daytime -- except Kate? 555 00:22:55,891 --> 00:22:58,584 - She's been poorly. - Yes. 556 00:22:58,618 --> 00:23:01,207 All I'm saying, Mrs. Goldstein, is -- 557 00:23:01,241 --> 00:23:02,588 do you want Dr. Thorndyke 558 00:23:02,622 --> 00:23:05,073 to talk to Superintendent Miller of Scotland Yard, 559 00:23:05,107 --> 00:23:07,938 or would you prefer to make out that list? 560 00:23:16,671 --> 00:23:17,982 Good evening. Sorry I'm late. 561 00:23:18,017 --> 00:23:19,398 Hello, Jervis. 562 00:23:19,432 --> 00:23:20,433 Dr. Jervis, my colleague. 563 00:23:20,468 --> 00:23:22,090 Mr. Sam Turner, 564 00:23:22,124 --> 00:23:24,057 whose address you were so good as to obtain for me. 565 00:23:24,092 --> 00:23:25,334 How do you do? 566 00:23:25,369 --> 00:23:27,302 Miss Minna Adler's particular friend. 567 00:23:27,336 --> 00:23:28,648 Yeah. 568 00:23:28,683 --> 00:23:30,650 Mr. Turner is afraid that I might be -- 569 00:23:30,685 --> 00:23:32,203 "prying," I think was the word. 570 00:23:32,238 --> 00:23:33,860 And he doesn't want me to pry. 571 00:23:33,895 --> 00:23:35,621 - What's the use of it? - Exactly. 572 00:23:35,655 --> 00:23:38,209 So, we haven't discussed the case at all. 573 00:23:38,244 --> 00:23:39,590 Oh. 574 00:23:39,625 --> 00:23:41,040 Well, what's the use? Poor Minna is dead. 575 00:23:41,074 --> 00:23:42,835 I've offered our deepest sympathies. 576 00:23:42,869 --> 00:23:44,181 DR. JERVIS: Of course. 577 00:23:44,215 --> 00:23:47,218 Her murderess is arrested. That's that. 578 00:23:47,253 --> 00:23:49,600 So, instead we've discussed a glass of tea. 579 00:23:49,635 --> 00:23:51,257 TURNER: I'll be off, then. 580 00:23:51,291 --> 00:23:54,294 We've also discussed Mr. Turner's work. 581 00:23:54,329 --> 00:23:56,331 - TURNER: Porter. - Oh, yes, I know. 582 00:23:56,365 --> 00:23:58,022 In a warehouse in the Minories. 583 00:23:58,057 --> 00:23:59,541 Did you know, Jervis, 584 00:23:59,576 --> 00:24:02,199 that the new season's crop of sponges from Turkey 585 00:24:02,233 --> 00:24:03,614 arrived a few days ago? 586 00:24:03,649 --> 00:24:05,064 DR. JERVIS: No. No, I didn't. 587 00:24:05,098 --> 00:24:06,445 Mr. Turner says they should be in the shops 588 00:24:06,479 --> 00:24:07,998 by the end of the week. 589 00:24:08,032 --> 00:24:09,482 - We must look out for them... - DR. JERVIS: Yes. 590 00:24:09,517 --> 00:24:11,035 DR. THORNDYKE: ...particularly since our own sponge 591 00:24:11,070 --> 00:24:12,830 is overdue for honorable retirement. 592 00:24:12,865 --> 00:24:14,901 [ Glass clinks ] 593 00:24:14,936 --> 00:24:18,042 Well, goodbye, Mr. Turner, and I promise not to pry. 594 00:24:18,077 --> 00:24:19,837 Aw, I didn't mean no harm, gov. 595 00:24:19,872 --> 00:24:22,253 Neither did I, Mr. Turner. Neither did I. 596 00:24:22,288 --> 00:24:24,497 Don't want to see you wasting your time. 597 00:24:24,532 --> 00:24:26,672 Well, thanks for the tea. 598 00:24:34,438 --> 00:24:37,027 Would you mind settling up, please, Jervis? 599 00:24:43,930 --> 00:24:47,209 And now, at last, what did you think of Mr. Sam Turner? 600 00:24:53,008 --> 00:24:55,424 I said, what did you think of Mr. -- 601 00:24:55,459 --> 00:24:56,391 DR. THORNDYKE: Nothing, as yet. 602 00:24:56,425 --> 00:24:57,426 Ah. 603 00:24:57,461 --> 00:24:58,842 Jervis, if you touch that glass, 604 00:24:58,876 --> 00:25:00,568 I shall have you struck off the register. 605 00:25:00,602 --> 00:25:01,948 I beg your pardon! 606 00:25:01,983 --> 00:25:04,399 I gave you every possible indication. 607 00:25:04,433 --> 00:25:07,264 Why do you suppose I mentioned Turkey sponges? 608 00:25:07,298 --> 00:25:09,059 And why do you imagine I gave him tea? 609 00:25:10,681 --> 00:25:13,304 Polton, what are you doing here at this hour? 610 00:25:13,339 --> 00:25:14,685 Waiting for you to give me something 611 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:16,238 with that man's fingerprints on it, sir. 612 00:25:16,273 --> 00:25:18,171 Polton, you are a highly intelligent fellow. 613 00:25:18,206 --> 00:25:20,277 Yes, sir. Thank you, sir, thank you. 614 00:25:20,311 --> 00:25:22,417 Which is more than I can say of some others. 615 00:25:22,451 --> 00:25:24,108 POLTON: [ Clears throat ] 616 00:25:24,143 --> 00:25:26,559 Was it the -- the glass, sir? 617 00:25:26,594 --> 00:25:28,837 Yes, thank you, the glass. 618 00:25:28,872 --> 00:25:30,943 It's no use you looking at me like that, Jervis. 619 00:25:30,977 --> 00:25:32,669 I know you are burning to strike me dead. 620 00:25:32,703 --> 00:25:34,636 I'm often burning to strike you dead. 621 00:25:34,671 --> 00:25:36,189 Will that be all, sir? 622 00:25:36,224 --> 00:25:38,433 - Yes, thank you. - Thank you, sir. 623 00:25:38,467 --> 00:25:40,573 Jervis, you're as bad as the police, 624 00:25:40,608 --> 00:25:43,369 trampling and rummaging and destroying essential evidence. 625 00:25:43,403 --> 00:25:45,785 But that man was Minna Adler's sweetheart. 626 00:25:45,820 --> 00:25:49,375 Jervis, Jervis, Jervis, how many times must I tell you 627 00:25:49,409 --> 00:25:52,102 not to confuse your mind with questions of motive? 628 00:25:52,136 --> 00:25:55,001 Consider nothing -- nothing but the ascertainable facts. 629 00:25:55,036 --> 00:25:58,557 But -- forgive me -- murders are committed for a motive. 630 00:25:58,591 --> 00:26:01,042 Which is not necessarily the obvious one. 631 00:26:01,076 --> 00:26:03,423 Yes, you're just as bad as the police 632 00:26:03,458 --> 00:26:06,392 who snatch at a motive like a dog at a bone 633 00:26:06,426 --> 00:26:09,602 and then ignore or misinterpret the facts that don't fit, 634 00:26:09,637 --> 00:26:10,983 and an innocent goes to the gallows. 635 00:26:11,017 --> 00:26:12,398 I take your point 636 00:26:12,432 --> 00:26:13,502 that motive mustn't be the first consideration, 637 00:26:13,537 --> 00:26:14,676 but surely -- 638 00:26:14,711 --> 00:26:16,471 I am saying more than that. 639 00:26:16,505 --> 00:26:19,508 I am saying that only the facts are sacred. 640 00:26:19,543 --> 00:26:23,236 If the facts prove that Mr. X committed the murder, 641 00:26:23,271 --> 00:26:25,618 his motive will emerge sooner or later. 642 00:26:25,653 --> 00:26:29,864 Suppose that I were found here on the floor in the morning 643 00:26:29,898 --> 00:26:32,142 with a knife through my heart. 644 00:26:32,176 --> 00:26:33,868 Who do you suppose would be arrested? 645 00:26:33,902 --> 00:26:35,559 Someone in the police, I imagine. 646 00:26:35,594 --> 00:26:37,941 [ Laughs ] No. 647 00:26:37,975 --> 00:26:38,942 You. 648 00:26:38,976 --> 00:26:40,288 Me? 649 00:26:40,322 --> 00:26:42,462 A reliable witness would be able to testify 650 00:26:42,497 --> 00:26:44,499 that you were burning to strike me dead. 651 00:26:44,533 --> 00:26:47,226 Oh, John, you're not playing fair. 652 00:26:47,260 --> 00:26:49,677 Let me put a very simple question to you, then. 653 00:26:49,711 --> 00:26:53,370 You gave me Mrs. Goldstein's list, with their occupations. 654 00:26:53,404 --> 00:26:56,649 Now, only two people on that list work in a sponge warehouse. 655 00:26:56,684 --> 00:26:58,858 Now, if Mr. Sam Turner's fingerprints 656 00:26:58,893 --> 00:27:01,274 do not correspond to those on the candle end, 657 00:27:01,309 --> 00:27:03,000 what is the obvious deduction? 658 00:27:04,484 --> 00:27:06,176 I apologize. 659 00:27:06,210 --> 00:27:07,833 You're quite right. 660 00:27:07,867 --> 00:27:11,975 I should prefer you to add "as always" to that remark. 661 00:27:12,009 --> 00:27:13,804 As always. 662 00:27:13,839 --> 00:27:15,668 Thank you. 663 00:27:18,291 --> 00:27:20,673 [ Hooves clopping ] 664 00:27:24,573 --> 00:27:26,575 [ Knock on door ] 665 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,101 - Morning. - Morning. 666 00:27:37,276 --> 00:27:40,866 Ah! From the coroner's office, I'll be bound. 667 00:27:44,697 --> 00:27:48,218 Yes, the coroner's subpoena. 668 00:27:48,252 --> 00:27:51,152 And a very civil letter. 669 00:27:51,186 --> 00:27:52,567 "Sorry to trouble you, 670 00:27:52,601 --> 00:27:54,673 but I had no choice under the circumstances." 671 00:27:54,707 --> 00:27:56,813 Of course he hadn't. 672 00:27:56,847 --> 00:27:59,263 "Dr. Davidson's arranged to make the autopsy tomorrow 673 00:27:59,298 --> 00:28:00,437 at 4:00 p.m." 674 00:28:00,471 --> 00:28:01,956 Tomorrow? 675 00:28:01,990 --> 00:28:03,854 Ah, yes, he means today. 676 00:28:03,889 --> 00:28:06,132 "And I should be glad if you could be present. 677 00:28:06,167 --> 00:28:09,066 The mortuary is in Barker Street." 678 00:28:09,101 --> 00:28:13,346 Well, I suppose we must go, though Davidson will resent it. 679 00:28:13,381 --> 00:28:15,452 And will you resent Davidson? 680 00:28:15,486 --> 00:28:18,558 I shall do my duty by helping the course of justice. 681 00:28:18,593 --> 00:28:20,250 Whether I help Davidson 682 00:28:20,284 --> 00:28:23,425 depends entirely on whether he wishes to be helped. 683 00:28:32,952 --> 00:28:35,368 Good afternoon, sir. Dr. Jervis. 684 00:28:35,403 --> 00:28:37,612 Good afternoon, Hart. Making notes already? 685 00:28:37,646 --> 00:28:39,027 Uh, yes. 686 00:28:39,062 --> 00:28:40,580 I'm afraid I assumed you weren't coming. 687 00:28:40,615 --> 00:28:44,239 Oh, I have a few seconds to 4:00. 688 00:28:44,274 --> 00:28:46,069 Really? I think you must be slow. 689 00:28:46,103 --> 00:28:47,380 Jervis? 690 00:28:47,415 --> 00:28:49,589 [ Clock chiming ] 691 00:28:49,624 --> 00:28:51,764 [ Chuckles ] 692 00:28:51,799 --> 00:28:53,386 My mistake, apparently. 693 00:28:53,421 --> 00:28:55,595 Yes. 694 00:28:55,630 --> 00:28:58,046 I'm sorry I started without you, 695 00:28:58,081 --> 00:29:01,567 but a postmortem is really a mere farce in a case like this. 696 00:29:01,601 --> 00:29:05,467 I had seen all there was to be seen, and so had you. 697 00:29:05,502 --> 00:29:07,469 However, there's the body. 698 00:29:07,504 --> 00:29:09,955 Hart hasn't closed it up yet. 699 00:29:09,989 --> 00:29:14,166 And now, if you'll excuse me, I have other things to do. 700 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:15,201 Good afternoon. 701 00:29:21,035 --> 00:29:22,933 I must apologize for Dr. Davidson, sir. 702 00:29:22,968 --> 00:29:24,245 You needn't. 703 00:29:24,279 --> 00:29:26,350 You didn't supply him with manners. 704 00:29:26,385 --> 00:29:28,249 Well, don't let me disturb you. 705 00:29:28,283 --> 00:29:30,354 I just want to verify one or two facts. 706 00:29:32,149 --> 00:29:34,807 Davidson is a perfect swine. 707 00:29:34,842 --> 00:29:36,153 If I know anything about it, 708 00:29:36,188 --> 00:29:38,224 Dr. Davidson has just done himself 709 00:29:38,259 --> 00:29:39,847 a great deal of professional harm. 710 00:29:39,881 --> 00:29:41,158 Good. 711 00:29:54,551 --> 00:29:57,588 I think the doctor has found something. 712 00:29:57,623 --> 00:29:59,211 What? 713 00:29:59,245 --> 00:30:01,800 He'll let us know in his own way and in his own good time. 714 00:30:06,390 --> 00:30:08,461 Ah. 715 00:30:08,496 --> 00:30:10,463 DR. JERVIS: The doctor has definitely found something. 716 00:30:10,498 --> 00:30:12,362 That's splendid. 717 00:30:12,396 --> 00:30:15,399 Did Davidson find anything in the vertebrae of the neck? 718 00:30:15,434 --> 00:30:16,607 No. 719 00:30:16,642 --> 00:30:18,230 DR. JERVIS: Poor Davidson. 720 00:30:25,582 --> 00:30:27,584 Ah, there you are, Thorndyke. 721 00:30:27,618 --> 00:30:29,206 Who is that, sir? 722 00:30:29,241 --> 00:30:30,794 That's Superintendent Miller of Scotland Yard. 723 00:30:30,829 --> 00:30:32,623 - Good afternoon. - Good afternoon. 724 00:30:32,658 --> 00:30:34,453 Jervis. 725 00:30:34,487 --> 00:30:36,593 Good afternoon, Superintendent. Now, what's he got wind of? 726 00:30:38,940 --> 00:30:40,873 Been having another look, eh? 727 00:30:40,908 --> 00:30:43,393 I'm afraid he's arrived just after the nick of time. 728 00:30:43,427 --> 00:30:46,120 I gather we're to see you at the inquest tomorrow. 729 00:30:46,154 --> 00:30:48,122 I've been subpoenaed to attend. 730 00:30:48,156 --> 00:30:50,814 Anything that you'd like to tell me before then? 731 00:30:50,849 --> 00:30:52,402 On the grounds of old friendship? 732 00:30:52,436 --> 00:30:55,163 I never use those grounds, except in dire extremity. 733 00:30:55,198 --> 00:30:56,889 Oh, this case is not extremity. 734 00:30:56,924 --> 00:30:59,581 No, I don't think there is. 735 00:30:59,616 --> 00:31:04,379 All right, you can tell me this, if you want to. 736 00:31:04,414 --> 00:31:06,795 Is Sergeant Bates going to make a fool of himself? 737 00:31:06,830 --> 00:31:08,832 - Yes. - And Davidson? 738 00:31:08,867 --> 00:31:10,213 - Even more so. - Why? 739 00:31:10,247 --> 00:31:11,628 Because they're fools. 740 00:31:11,662 --> 00:31:14,182 Ah, well, I shall attend the inquest myself 741 00:31:14,217 --> 00:31:16,322 to protect the fair name of the force. 742 00:31:16,357 --> 00:31:20,154 Miller, you can tell me something. 743 00:31:20,188 --> 00:31:21,431 I hope. 744 00:31:21,465 --> 00:31:23,743 The inquest is to be held in a school room. 745 00:31:23,778 --> 00:31:24,641 Do you know the room? 746 00:31:24,675 --> 00:31:26,022 I have been there before. 747 00:31:26,056 --> 00:31:28,369 - How many doors has it? - Just one. 748 00:31:28,403 --> 00:31:30,026 Does it lock? 749 00:31:30,060 --> 00:31:32,614 Well, if it doesn't, I can make quite sure that it does. 750 00:31:32,649 --> 00:31:36,135 It may well be that, during the course of my evidence tomorrow, 751 00:31:36,170 --> 00:31:37,930 I shall suddenly be seized by a desire 752 00:31:37,965 --> 00:31:40,208 to take out my pocket handkerchief and blow my nose. 753 00:31:40,243 --> 00:31:42,555 [ Laughs ] I shall look forward to that moment. 754 00:31:42,590 --> 00:31:46,145 If and when it happens, would you or someone, 755 00:31:46,180 --> 00:31:49,597 as unobtrusively but as quickly as possible, lock that door? 756 00:31:49,631 --> 00:31:51,737 I shall see to it myself. 757 00:31:51,771 --> 00:31:53,808 I would also appreciate it if -- 758 00:31:53,842 --> 00:31:56,155 if two rather burly policemen 759 00:31:56,190 --> 00:31:57,743 could be somewhere in my vicinity. 760 00:31:57,777 --> 00:32:01,505 To protect you from someone or someone from you? 761 00:32:01,540 --> 00:32:02,851 Who knows? 762 00:32:04,819 --> 00:32:07,926 [ Indistinct conversations ] 763 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,825 Call Sarah Goldstein. 764 00:32:14,001 --> 00:32:16,589 - Ah. Dr. Thorndyke. - Morning. 765 00:32:16,624 --> 00:32:18,557 All witnesses? 766 00:32:18,591 --> 00:32:21,318 My students. They've come here to learn. 767 00:32:21,353 --> 00:32:23,113 [ Chuckling ] Like me. Witnesses over there. 768 00:32:23,148 --> 00:32:24,597 I think I shall sit with the public. 769 00:32:24,632 --> 00:32:27,014 Do. Doctor. 770 00:32:33,330 --> 00:32:35,850 Mrs. Goldstein, will you tell us the circumstances 771 00:32:35,884 --> 00:32:37,541 under which you discovered the body? 772 00:32:37,576 --> 00:32:42,477 At 11:00 in the morning, sir, I went out in the backyard, sir. 773 00:32:42,512 --> 00:32:47,103 She, of course, has been schooled by Sergeant Bates. 774 00:32:47,137 --> 00:32:50,002 Miss Wilfer, you were intimately acquainted with the deceased, 775 00:32:50,037 --> 00:32:51,003 I believe. 776 00:32:51,038 --> 00:32:52,832 She was my best friend. 777 00:32:52,867 --> 00:32:55,939 Had she, as far as you know, any enemies, 778 00:32:55,974 --> 00:32:58,390 any persons who bore her a grudge 779 00:32:58,424 --> 00:32:59,943 and were likely to do her an injury? 780 00:32:59,978 --> 00:33:02,497 Yes. May O'Brien. 781 00:33:02,532 --> 00:33:05,949 May O'Brien was her enemy. She hated her. 782 00:33:05,984 --> 00:33:07,916 MAN: She hated the deceased. 783 00:33:07,951 --> 00:33:09,090 How do you know that? 784 00:33:09,125 --> 00:33:10,540 WILFER: I heard her say to Minna, 785 00:33:10,574 --> 00:33:13,405 "I'm gonna cut your throat one of these nights, 786 00:33:13,439 --> 00:33:15,269 even if I swing for it." 787 00:33:15,303 --> 00:33:18,582 And the fools think that is evidence of guilt. 788 00:33:19,618 --> 00:33:22,103 Miss Johnson, were you present at this encounter 789 00:33:22,138 --> 00:33:24,485 between May O'Brien and the deceased? 790 00:33:24,519 --> 00:33:28,006 JOHNSON: Yes, sir, I was, me and Paul Petrofsky. 791 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:31,112 And did you hear these words spoken by May O'Brien? 792 00:33:31,147 --> 00:33:33,287 JOHNSON: Yes, I did, sir, same as Kate. 793 00:33:33,321 --> 00:33:36,945 And are you also convinced that the words were meant in earnest? 794 00:33:36,980 --> 00:33:39,879 Yes, I am, sir. 795 00:33:39,914 --> 00:33:41,916 She wanted to kill her. She really did. 796 00:33:41,950 --> 00:33:44,091 How can anyone give evidence 797 00:33:44,125 --> 00:33:46,990 as to what is in someone else's mind? 798 00:33:47,542 --> 00:33:49,303 In fact, Mr. Petrofsky, 799 00:33:49,337 --> 00:33:52,064 your evidence totally corroborates 800 00:33:52,099 --> 00:33:55,516 that of Miss Wilfer and Miss Johnson. 801 00:33:55,550 --> 00:33:56,517 It -- It what? 802 00:33:57,173 --> 00:34:00,555 You saw and heard the same things. 803 00:34:00,590 --> 00:34:02,074 PETROFSKY: Yes. 804 00:34:02,109 --> 00:34:03,765 Any questions, Mr. Mulliner? 805 00:34:05,974 --> 00:34:08,115 Mr. Petrofsky, you are a man 806 00:34:08,149 --> 00:34:11,187 and therefore less likely to be affected 807 00:34:11,221 --> 00:34:13,982 by personal feelings towards my client. 808 00:34:14,017 --> 00:34:16,399 This fellow is a ninny. 809 00:34:16,433 --> 00:34:19,919 I think you knew my client, May O'Brien, reasonably well? 810 00:34:19,954 --> 00:34:24,821 I saw her when I came to the house. 811 00:34:24,855 --> 00:34:27,755 And how often was that, Mr. Petrofsky? 812 00:34:27,789 --> 00:34:29,722 I was Minna's friend 813 00:34:29,757 --> 00:34:33,105 until she took up with Sam Turner. 814 00:34:33,140 --> 00:34:35,038 Yes. So, you went to the house... 815 00:34:35,073 --> 00:34:36,971 PETROFSKY: Every day. 816 00:34:37,005 --> 00:34:39,387 And thereafter, after she had taken up with -- 817 00:34:39,422 --> 00:34:42,010 I was changing lodgings. 818 00:34:42,045 --> 00:34:45,807 I had no place to keep my box. 819 00:34:45,842 --> 00:34:50,743 Mrs. Goldstein let me keep my box in the house. 820 00:34:50,778 --> 00:34:54,368 I -- I came to get things from it. 821 00:34:54,402 --> 00:34:55,576 Every day? 822 00:34:55,610 --> 00:34:58,096 Some days not. 823 00:34:58,130 --> 00:35:01,099 Yeah, but in any case, what I'm getting at 824 00:35:01,133 --> 00:35:03,791 is you did see my client, May O'Brien, 825 00:35:03,825 --> 00:35:05,724 on a great number of occasions. 826 00:35:05,758 --> 00:35:07,760 - Yes. - Yes. 827 00:35:07,795 --> 00:35:09,797 Now, would you not agree with me 828 00:35:09,831 --> 00:35:13,594 that May O'Brien is normally a kind and peaceable young woman, 829 00:35:13,628 --> 00:35:17,011 apart from occasional, momentary outbursts of temper 830 00:35:17,045 --> 00:35:20,187 of a kind that we associate with the Irish temperament 831 00:35:20,221 --> 00:35:23,328 and [chuckles] more especially with the red-haired Irish 832 00:35:23,362 --> 00:35:25,606 and that, during one of these outbursts, 833 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,643 she might easily say something which she did not really mean? 834 00:35:30,300 --> 00:35:32,578 Shall I put that question another way? 835 00:35:32,613 --> 00:35:33,993 No. 836 00:35:34,028 --> 00:35:36,962 She meant it, all right. She meant it. 837 00:35:36,996 --> 00:35:39,999 By pressing for the answer he wants, 838 00:35:40,034 --> 00:35:42,381 he gets the exact opposite. 839 00:35:42,416 --> 00:35:44,072 I swear by Almighty God that the evidence I shall give 840 00:35:44,107 --> 00:35:45,557 shall be the truth, the whole truth, 841 00:35:45,591 --> 00:35:46,592 and nothing but the truth. 842 00:35:46,627 --> 00:35:48,076 Detective Sergeant Alfred Bates, 843 00:35:48,111 --> 00:35:49,526 Criminal Investigation Department, 844 00:35:49,561 --> 00:35:51,459 H Division, Metropolitan Police. 845 00:35:51,494 --> 00:35:53,185 Close attention, gentlemen. 846 00:35:53,220 --> 00:35:54,945 On the day in question, 847 00:35:54,980 --> 00:35:58,190 I was called by Constable Simmonds at 11:49 a.m. 848 00:35:58,225 --> 00:36:00,951 and reached the house at two minutes before 12:00, 849 00:36:00,986 --> 00:36:03,195 in company with Divisional Surgeon Davidson. 850 00:36:03,230 --> 00:36:05,749 I found the deceased woman, Minna Adler, 851 00:36:05,784 --> 00:36:07,544 lying in bed with her throat cut. 852 00:36:07,579 --> 00:36:09,719 She was dead and cold. 853 00:36:09,753 --> 00:36:12,480 There were no signs of any struggle, 854 00:36:12,515 --> 00:36:14,551 and the bed did not appear to have been disturbed. 855 00:36:14,586 --> 00:36:18,728 A wooden box had been placed on the floor at the head of the bed 856 00:36:18,762 --> 00:36:20,454 with a hassock on it. 857 00:36:20,488 --> 00:36:23,698 Evidently, the murderer had stood on this, 858 00:36:23,733 --> 00:36:26,494 leaned over the bedhead, and committed the murder. 859 00:36:26,529 --> 00:36:29,808 This was rendered necessary by the position of the table, 860 00:36:29,842 --> 00:36:31,396 which could not have been moved 861 00:36:31,430 --> 00:36:33,467 without making a noise and disturbing the deceased. 862 00:36:33,501 --> 00:36:36,849 I infer from the presence of the box and hassock 863 00:36:36,884 --> 00:36:39,783 that the murderer was a person well below average height. 864 00:36:42,579 --> 00:36:45,893 Was there anything else 865 00:36:45,927 --> 00:36:48,275 that seemed to indicate the identity of the murderer? 866 00:36:48,309 --> 00:36:51,001 Yes, I found a tress of woman's red hair, 867 00:36:51,036 --> 00:36:53,901 which was grasped in the right hand of the deceased. 868 00:36:53,935 --> 00:36:55,074 [ Gasps ] 869 00:36:55,109 --> 00:36:57,353 The hair in the packet marked "A" 870 00:36:57,387 --> 00:37:00,079 was found in the hand of the deceased. 871 00:37:00,114 --> 00:37:03,255 The hair in the packet marked "B" is the hair of May O'Brien. 872 00:37:03,290 --> 00:37:04,429 Thank you, Sergeant Bates. 873 00:37:04,463 --> 00:37:06,120 Mr. Mulliner. 874 00:37:06,154 --> 00:37:07,570 Where did you obtain the hair in the packet marked "B"? 875 00:37:07,604 --> 00:37:09,192 From a bag of hair combings 876 00:37:09,227 --> 00:37:11,505 that hung on the wall in May O'Brien's room. 877 00:37:11,539 --> 00:37:12,989 I object to this. 878 00:37:13,023 --> 00:37:15,267 There is no evidence that the hair in that bag 879 00:37:15,302 --> 00:37:16,993 was the hair of May O'Brien. 880 00:37:17,027 --> 00:37:20,893 Neither of the fools see the significance of that bag. 881 00:37:20,928 --> 00:37:23,862 Did you know about the bag, then? 882 00:37:23,896 --> 00:37:26,002 No, I thought it was the hairbrush. 883 00:37:26,036 --> 00:37:27,935 I'll make a note of your objection, Mr. Mulliner. 884 00:37:27,969 --> 00:37:29,523 MULLINER: Thank you, sir. 885 00:37:29,557 --> 00:37:31,490 But I shall allow the sergeant to continue his evidence. 886 00:37:31,525 --> 00:37:34,528 I have examined and compared the hair, 887 00:37:34,562 --> 00:37:37,324 and in my opinion they are from the head of the same person. 888 00:37:37,358 --> 00:37:41,431 The next thing I noted in the deceased woman's room 889 00:37:41,466 --> 00:37:44,192 was that there was a small quantity of silver sand 890 00:37:44,227 --> 00:37:45,504 sprinkled about her pillow. 891 00:37:45,539 --> 00:37:47,299 Silver sand? 892 00:37:47,334 --> 00:37:49,681 I think it easily explained, sir. 893 00:37:49,715 --> 00:37:52,753 I observed that the wash basin was full of bloodstained water, 894 00:37:52,787 --> 00:37:55,342 indicating that the murderer had washed his or her hands 895 00:37:55,376 --> 00:37:56,757 after the crime. 896 00:37:56,791 --> 00:37:59,518 On the washstand was a ball of sandsoap 897 00:37:59,553 --> 00:38:01,555 with which the murderer had cleansed his or her hands 898 00:38:01,589 --> 00:38:04,316 and, while drying them, had moved back to the bedhead, 899 00:38:04,351 --> 00:38:06,111 and some sand sprinkled down onto the pillow. 900 00:38:07,354 --> 00:38:10,771 A simple but highly ingenious explanation. 901 00:38:10,805 --> 00:38:12,359 [ Scoffs ] 902 00:38:12,393 --> 00:38:14,119 I searched May O'Brien's room 903 00:38:14,153 --> 00:38:16,432 and found not only the bag of hair combings 904 00:38:16,466 --> 00:38:17,778 but also a knife, 905 00:38:17,812 --> 00:38:20,056 such as is used by stencil cutters. 906 00:38:20,090 --> 00:38:22,196 There were bloodstains on this knife 907 00:38:22,230 --> 00:38:23,956 which she explained by saying 908 00:38:23,991 --> 00:38:26,269 that she cut her finger a few days before. 909 00:38:26,304 --> 00:38:28,133 She admitted the knife was hers. 910 00:38:28,167 --> 00:38:29,445 I produce the knife. 911 00:38:29,479 --> 00:38:31,274 Mr. Mulliner? 912 00:38:31,309 --> 00:38:35,416 Has May O'Brien's finger been examined since her arrest? 913 00:38:35,451 --> 00:38:37,867 - Not to my knowledge. - Why not? 914 00:38:37,901 --> 00:38:39,455 It was not considered necessary. 915 00:38:39,489 --> 00:38:43,976 When you examined the bottom of the wash-hand basin, 916 00:38:44,011 --> 00:38:47,497 did you find silver sand at the bottom? 917 00:38:47,532 --> 00:38:50,949 I did not examine the bottom of the wash-hand basin. 918 00:38:50,983 --> 00:38:53,123 Did anyone examine it? 919 00:38:53,158 --> 00:38:54,366 Not to my knowledge. 920 00:38:54,401 --> 00:38:55,367 Why not? 921 00:38:55,402 --> 00:38:57,093 It was not considered necessary. 922 00:38:57,127 --> 00:38:59,233 Hmm. 923 00:38:59,267 --> 00:39:02,823 If May O'Brien had washed the knife in the wash-hand basin -- 924 00:39:02,857 --> 00:39:04,376 I never said that. 925 00:39:04,411 --> 00:39:06,240 I repeat. 926 00:39:06,274 --> 00:39:08,932 If May O'Brien had washed the knife in the wash-hand basin, 927 00:39:08,967 --> 00:39:10,762 there would have been no blood on it. 928 00:39:13,903 --> 00:39:17,458 I assumed she washed her hands, but not the knife. 929 00:39:17,493 --> 00:39:18,528 - You assume. - Yes. 930 00:39:18,563 --> 00:39:20,081 Hmm. Thank you. 931 00:39:20,116 --> 00:39:22,152 He has no hope of proving her innocent, 932 00:39:22,187 --> 00:39:24,292 so he makes a couple of effective points 933 00:39:24,327 --> 00:39:25,846 and feels he's done his duty. 934 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:27,434 What can she afford to pay him? 935 00:39:27,468 --> 00:39:29,746 Exactly. It's not worth his while to use his brain. 936 00:39:31,369 --> 00:39:32,818 I swear by Almighty God the evidence I shall give 937 00:39:32,853 --> 00:39:33,750 shall be the truth, the whole truth, 938 00:39:33,785 --> 00:39:35,303 and nothing but the truth. 939 00:39:35,338 --> 00:39:37,444 Dr. Henry Davidson, Police Divisional Surgeon. 940 00:39:37,478 --> 00:39:39,480 Particularly close attention, gentlemen. 941 00:39:39,515 --> 00:39:40,861 Doctor, you saw the body 942 00:39:40,895 --> 00:39:42,863 soon after the discovery of the murder. 943 00:39:42,897 --> 00:39:45,521 Yes, she'd been dead about 10 hours. 944 00:39:45,555 --> 00:39:47,868 Rigidity was complete in the lower limbs, 945 00:39:47,902 --> 00:39:49,283 though not yet in the trunk. 946 00:39:49,317 --> 00:39:51,872 The cause of death was a deep wound 947 00:39:51,906 --> 00:39:53,460 extending across the throat 948 00:39:53,494 --> 00:39:55,703 and separating all the structures down to the spine. 949 00:39:55,738 --> 00:39:57,118 They'd been inflicted 950 00:39:57,153 --> 00:39:59,362 by the single sweep of a single-edged knife 951 00:39:59,397 --> 00:40:02,330 drawn partly from left to right by a right-handed person 952 00:40:02,365 --> 00:40:05,472 standing behind the bed while the deceased was lying down. 953 00:40:05,506 --> 00:40:07,128 I saw no sign of a struggle, 954 00:40:07,163 --> 00:40:09,545 and I take it that death was almost instantaneous. 955 00:40:09,579 --> 00:40:10,960 "Almost"? 956 00:40:10,994 --> 00:40:12,858 Well, it was practically instantaneous. 957 00:40:12,893 --> 00:40:14,929 - "Practically"? - Well, as good as. 958 00:40:14,964 --> 00:40:16,172 Shall I go on? 959 00:40:16,206 --> 00:40:18,208 Please do. 960 00:40:18,864 --> 00:40:20,935 I've seen the tress of a woman's red hair 961 00:40:20,970 --> 00:40:22,696 referred to by Sergeant Bates, 962 00:40:22,730 --> 00:40:24,456 I've compared it with that of the accused, 963 00:40:24,491 --> 00:40:26,665 and in my opinion, it is the same hair. 964 00:40:26,700 --> 00:40:29,357 I wondered when the word "accused" was going to come in. 965 00:40:29,392 --> 00:40:31,256 I've also been shown a stencil knife 966 00:40:31,290 --> 00:40:33,465 belonging to the accused with stains on it, 967 00:40:33,500 --> 00:40:35,433 which I find to be mammalian blood, 968 00:40:35,467 --> 00:40:38,297 probably human, though I cannot say with any certainty. 969 00:40:38,332 --> 00:40:43,337 Could the wound have been inflicted with this knife? 970 00:40:43,371 --> 00:40:46,927 Well, it is a small knife to have inflicted so deep a wound, 971 00:40:46,961 --> 00:40:49,447 but, yes, it is perfectly possible. 972 00:40:49,481 --> 00:40:52,242 Mr. Mulliner. 973 00:40:52,277 --> 00:40:56,315 Doctor, you state that there was no struggle 974 00:40:56,350 --> 00:40:59,664 and the death was as good as instantaneous. 975 00:40:59,698 --> 00:41:01,493 And yet you imply 976 00:41:01,528 --> 00:41:05,463 that the deceased had torn out a lock of the murderess's hair. 977 00:41:05,497 --> 00:41:06,740 [ Chuckles ] 978 00:41:06,774 --> 00:41:09,156 Are not these statements inconsistent? 979 00:41:09,190 --> 00:41:10,675 No. 980 00:41:10,709 --> 00:41:12,539 I take it that the hair was grasped convulsively 981 00:41:12,573 --> 00:41:14,126 at the moment of death. 982 00:41:14,161 --> 00:41:16,750 Doctor, it is possible 983 00:41:16,784 --> 00:41:19,649 to identify positively the hair of any individual? 984 00:41:19,684 --> 00:41:21,340 [ Laughing ] No, not with any certainty. 985 00:41:21,375 --> 00:41:22,687 Thank you. 986 00:41:22,721 --> 00:41:24,516 But this is very recognizable hair. 987 00:41:24,551 --> 00:41:27,139 Thank you, Dr. Davidson. 988 00:41:27,174 --> 00:41:31,247 And now, Dr. Thorndyke? 989 00:41:38,944 --> 00:41:42,016 Pay very close attention, gentlemen. 990 00:41:42,051 --> 00:41:44,467 In fact, if I were you, I would try to memorize every word. 991 00:41:44,502 --> 00:41:46,745 John Evenly Thorndyke, Doctor of Medicine, 992 00:41:46,780 --> 00:41:48,954 Fellow of the Royal College of Surgeons, 993 00:41:48,989 --> 00:41:50,542 Honorary Fellow of the Royal College of Physicians, 994 00:41:50,577 --> 00:41:52,095 Lecturer in Medical Jurisprudence, 995 00:41:52,130 --> 00:41:53,476 St. Margaret's Hospital, 996 00:41:53,511 --> 00:41:55,029 visiting professor at the London Hospital, 997 00:41:55,064 --> 00:41:56,824 emeritus professor, St. Bartholomew's Hospital, 998 00:41:56,859 --> 00:41:58,412 Member of Council 999 00:41:58,446 --> 00:42:00,932 and sometime Examiner of the Royal College of Surgeons. 1000 00:42:00,966 --> 00:42:03,831 Well, Doctor, I gather you reached the scene 1001 00:42:03,866 --> 00:42:06,454 shortly before the two previous witnesses 1002 00:42:06,489 --> 00:42:08,146 and saw the same things. 1003 00:42:08,180 --> 00:42:09,803 I saw the same things that they saw. 1004 00:42:09,837 --> 00:42:11,839 But with different eyes. 1005 00:42:11,874 --> 00:42:15,118 Now, I take it, then, the facts are not in dispute. 1006 00:42:15,153 --> 00:42:17,742 The facts can never be in dispute. 1007 00:42:17,776 --> 00:42:19,709 Would you give us your opinion 1008 00:42:19,744 --> 00:42:21,918 in the matter of the woman's hair? 1009 00:42:21,953 --> 00:42:24,024 I shall give you the facts. 1010 00:42:24,058 --> 00:42:25,439 Would you look at the hair 1011 00:42:25,473 --> 00:42:27,441 in the packet marked "A" and the packet marked "B" 1012 00:42:27,475 --> 00:42:29,029 and tell us whether, in your opinion, 1013 00:42:29,063 --> 00:42:30,444 they are of the same person? 1014 00:42:30,478 --> 00:42:31,859 I have no doubt they are from the same person. 1015 00:42:31,894 --> 00:42:33,102 Aah! 1016 00:42:33,136 --> 00:42:34,793 But equally, I have no doubt 1017 00:42:34,828 --> 00:42:36,795 they are not the hair of the murderer. 1018 00:42:36,830 --> 00:42:39,349 [ Murmuring ] 1019 00:42:39,384 --> 00:42:41,800 But the hair was found in the hand of the deceased. 1020 00:42:41,835 --> 00:42:43,319 DR. THORNDYKE: Yes. 1021 00:42:43,353 --> 00:42:45,701 The hair was placed in the hand of the deceased 1022 00:42:45,735 --> 00:42:47,219 after the moment of death. 1023 00:42:47,254 --> 00:42:49,497 [ Murmuring ] 1024 00:42:49,532 --> 00:42:52,328 Therefore we may assume it is not the hair of the murderer. 1025 00:42:52,362 --> 00:42:54,882 One does not deliberately choose to incriminate oneself. 1026 00:42:54,917 --> 00:42:59,300 But...how can you know the hair was placed? 1027 00:42:59,335 --> 00:43:01,993 Firstly, by the condition of the hand. 1028 00:43:02,027 --> 00:43:06,031 When a person at the moment of death grasps any object firmly, 1029 00:43:06,066 --> 00:43:08,137 this sets up a cadaveric spasm, 1030 00:43:08,171 --> 00:43:09,863 a muscular contraction 1031 00:43:09,897 --> 00:43:12,866 which passes immediately into rigor mortis. 1032 00:43:12,900 --> 00:43:15,075 The object remains firmly grasped 1033 00:43:15,109 --> 00:43:17,422 until this rigidity finally passes off. 1034 00:43:17,456 --> 00:43:21,219 In this case, the hand was still perfectly rigid, 1035 00:43:21,253 --> 00:43:23,670 but it did not grasp the hair. 1036 00:43:25,154 --> 00:43:26,500 Dr. Davidson -- 1037 00:43:26,534 --> 00:43:28,709 Dr. Davidson's assistant can testify to this, 1038 00:43:28,744 --> 00:43:30,055 if you doubt my word. 1039 00:43:30,090 --> 00:43:32,920 No, no. But, Dr. Thorndyke -- 1040 00:43:32,955 --> 00:43:35,474 Secondly, if I may, 1041 00:43:35,509 --> 00:43:38,132 when a lock of hair is forcibly torn out, 1042 00:43:38,167 --> 00:43:40,997 the roots will be found to be at the same end. 1043 00:43:41,032 --> 00:43:44,345 Now, if you will examine the hair in the packet marked "A" 1044 00:43:44,380 --> 00:43:47,210 with the aid of this lens... 1045 00:43:47,245 --> 00:43:51,490 you will find the roots are at both ends. 1046 00:43:51,525 --> 00:43:53,803 Therefore, it is not a lock of hair 1047 00:43:53,838 --> 00:43:55,425 that has been forcibly torn out. 1048 00:43:55,460 --> 00:43:56,910 [ Laughs ] 1049 00:43:56,944 --> 00:43:59,533 DR. THORNDYKE: Thirdly and most conclusively, 1050 00:43:59,567 --> 00:44:02,053 when a hair is torn from the head, 1051 00:44:02,087 --> 00:44:04,400 it drags out the root sheath. 1052 00:44:04,434 --> 00:44:06,644 When it falls naturally, it does not. 1053 00:44:06,678 --> 00:44:09,232 The root bulb comes out, but the sheath does not. 1054 00:44:09,267 --> 00:44:12,063 Dr. Davidson, I'm sure, 1055 00:44:12,097 --> 00:44:13,512 will confirm this of his own knowledge. 1056 00:44:13,547 --> 00:44:15,411 Dr. Davidson? 1057 00:44:15,445 --> 00:44:17,137 Yes. 1058 00:44:17,171 --> 00:44:19,104 The difference can plainly be seen. 1059 00:44:19,139 --> 00:44:21,969 If Miss O'Brien will tear out a few hairs from her head. 1060 00:44:22,004 --> 00:44:22,832 O'BRIEN: Yes. 1061 00:44:24,351 --> 00:44:26,560 Here you are! 1062 00:44:28,113 --> 00:44:30,806 Now, if you will examine those hairs 1063 00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:32,670 with the aid of the lens... 1064 00:44:32,704 --> 00:44:36,018 the root sheaths show as a glistening mass. 1065 00:44:36,052 --> 00:44:39,435 Remarkable, just remarkable. 1066 00:44:39,469 --> 00:44:43,094 The hair in the dead woman's hand had fallen naturally. 1067 00:44:43,128 --> 00:44:46,131 I assume it was taken by someone 1068 00:44:46,166 --> 00:44:48,271 from the bag of combings found in Miss O'Brien's room. 1069 00:44:48,306 --> 00:44:49,410 What? 1070 00:44:49,445 --> 00:44:51,102 Sit down, Mr. Turner. 1071 00:44:51,136 --> 00:44:52,517 Taken by someone? 1072 00:44:52,551 --> 00:44:53,829 By whom? 1073 00:44:53,863 --> 00:44:55,382 DR. THORNDYKE: I assume by the murderer. 1074 00:44:55,416 --> 00:44:56,659 But who -- 1075 00:44:56,694 --> 00:44:58,696 Uh, who? 1076 00:44:58,730 --> 00:45:01,491 Would you forgive me for a moment? 1077 00:45:01,526 --> 00:45:03,873 [ Nose blowing ] 1078 00:45:03,908 --> 00:45:06,255 [ Door locking ] 1079 00:45:06,289 --> 00:45:09,845 Thank you. That's better. 1080 00:45:09,879 --> 00:45:14,332 I observed certain things in Mrs. Goldstein's house 1081 00:45:14,366 --> 00:45:17,507 which clearly established the identity of the murderer. 1082 00:45:17,542 --> 00:45:21,995 The lock on the street door had been recently oiled. 1083 00:45:22,029 --> 00:45:25,239 No doubt the murderer opened it with a latchkey. 1084 00:45:25,274 --> 00:45:27,725 No doubt there were a great many of these, 1085 00:45:27,759 --> 00:45:30,520 for the lodgers and for their regular guests. 1086 00:45:30,555 --> 00:45:32,522 Yes, and why not? 1087 00:45:32,557 --> 00:45:36,250 It rained that night, the first time for a week, 1088 00:45:36,285 --> 00:45:39,081 between half past 1:00 and a quarter to 2:00. 1089 00:45:39,115 --> 00:45:41,739 There were wet footmarks inside the front door 1090 00:45:41,773 --> 00:45:43,706 and also on the stairs. 1091 00:45:43,741 --> 00:45:45,190 There were burnt-out matches 1092 00:45:45,225 --> 00:45:47,158 to indicate that someone lit a match, 1093 00:45:47,192 --> 00:45:49,194 threw it away halfway up the stairs, 1094 00:45:49,229 --> 00:45:51,679 lit another, and threw it away on the landing. 1095 00:45:51,714 --> 00:45:55,787 The lock on the girl's door, also recently oiled, 1096 00:45:55,822 --> 00:45:58,169 had been opened by a piece of wire 1097 00:45:58,203 --> 00:45:59,895 which left a distinct mark on the end of the key. 1098 00:46:01,482 --> 00:46:03,381 The bedside candlestick was empty. 1099 00:46:03,415 --> 00:46:05,279 - Burnt out. - Not so. 1100 00:46:05,314 --> 00:46:08,420 The murderer lit the candle, took it from the socket, 1101 00:46:08,455 --> 00:46:10,457 used it to light the way downstairs, 1102 00:46:10,491 --> 00:46:11,872 holding it in the right hand. 1103 00:46:11,907 --> 00:46:15,082 I have a cast of the candle end, 1104 00:46:15,117 --> 00:46:18,223 which will show the shape of the socket 1105 00:46:18,258 --> 00:46:21,295 and also the fingerprints of the murderer. 1106 00:46:21,330 --> 00:46:23,435 [ Murmuring ] 1107 00:46:23,470 --> 00:46:26,231 Dr. Thorndyke, whose fingerprints? 1108 00:46:26,266 --> 00:46:30,028 I also examined the sand on the girl's pillow. 1109 00:46:30,063 --> 00:46:32,686 It contained Foraminifera -- 1110 00:46:32,720 --> 00:46:35,965 tiny seashells found only in deep-sea sand 1111 00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:37,829 in the Eastern Mediterranean. 1112 00:46:37,864 --> 00:46:39,831 Such sand is found in quantity 1113 00:46:39,866 --> 00:46:42,523 in every consignment of Turkish sponges. 1114 00:46:42,558 --> 00:46:44,456 The clothes of a sponge-warehouse worker 1115 00:46:44,491 --> 00:46:45,837 becomes saturated with them. 1116 00:46:45,872 --> 00:46:47,356 There were two such workers, 1117 00:46:47,390 --> 00:46:49,668 both closely acquainted with the dead girl. 1118 00:46:49,703 --> 00:46:52,223 The fingerprints were not those of Sam Turner. 1119 00:46:52,257 --> 00:46:53,258 Therefore -- 1120 00:46:53,293 --> 00:46:54,466 Aah! Aah! 1121 00:46:54,501 --> 00:46:56,710 [ Spectators murmuring ] 1122 00:47:05,650 --> 00:47:08,101 I was sorry not to submit my last piece of evidence 1123 00:47:08,135 --> 00:47:10,206 to discomfort Dr. Davidson. 1124 00:47:10,241 --> 00:47:12,484 Dr. Davidson was discomforted enough already. 1125 00:47:12,519 --> 00:47:15,660 A small piece of metal embedded in the left transverse process 1126 00:47:15,694 --> 00:47:17,386 of the fourth vertebrae. 1127 00:47:17,420 --> 00:47:18,836 I think you will find a notch 1128 00:47:18,870 --> 00:47:20,803 on Mr. Petrofsky's knife corresponding to this. 1129 00:47:20,838 --> 00:47:23,288 You're a demon. 1130 00:47:23,323 --> 00:47:27,465 Superintendent, I seek to persuade you of one thing. 1131 00:47:27,499 --> 00:47:30,986 When a crime has been committed, the scene of that crime 1132 00:47:31,020 --> 00:47:33,851 should be as the palace of the sleeping beauty. 1133 00:47:33,885 --> 00:47:35,783 Not a grain of dust should be moved 1134 00:47:35,818 --> 00:47:37,682 until the truly scientific observer 1135 00:47:37,716 --> 00:47:40,064 has seen and analyzed everything. 1136 00:47:40,098 --> 00:47:42,652 A fragment of metal was merely overlooked, 1137 00:47:42,687 --> 00:47:44,206 but what would have happened 1138 00:47:44,240 --> 00:47:47,002 if I had not got to that room before anyone else, 1139 00:47:47,036 --> 00:47:50,902 your police trampling and rummaging, 1140 00:47:50,937 --> 00:47:52,352 smudging and tidying and taking away? 1141 00:47:52,386 --> 00:47:55,596 An innocent girl would have gone to the gallows. 1142 00:47:55,631 --> 00:47:59,704 And the deep sea would have uttered its message in vain. 1143 00:47:59,754 --> 00:48:04,304 Repair and Synchronization by Easy Subtitles Synchronizer 1.0.0.0 85343

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