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- Ready for another take,
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hKerwin?
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- We’re only halfway through.
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Widen out a little bit
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\h\h\h\hand go right back
to that extreme closeup.
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- Okay. Kerwin, here.
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- Remember what’s going on
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hin the ring.
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- [grunting]
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I can smell it!
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It’s in the air!
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I feel the cosmic powers
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hof Mars!
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The clouds of Jupiter!
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The boiling heat of Mercury!
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I can feel it.
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[soft music]
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♪ ♪
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- My dad taught my sister
\h\h\h\h\hand I a creed,
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and he would make us
\h\h\h\hwrite it out.
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\h\h\hLive strong.
Act bold. Be brave.
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- History has been made here.
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- Nothing’s too hard to do.
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- Just stop me dead.
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- Always believe.
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\h- I walk as the general
of a legion of warriors!
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[cheers and applause]
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- Ultimate Warrior was just--
\h\hhe was a moment in time.
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And the Ultimate Warrior,
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the guy that we grew up
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hwatching,
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the guy that fought Hulk Hogan
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hand beat him,
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was separate from Jim Hellwig.
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- Don’t let the tin cup I kick
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\h\hhit you in the mouth
and knock your teeth out.
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[laughter]
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- The complicated layers
\h\hof his own psyche...
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♪ ♪
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Created a man who at times
\h\h\h\hwas very difficult
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to get a grasp on.
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- [bleep] me.
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- He probably wouldn’t
have been driven to be
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The Ultimate Warrior
\h\hif he hadn’t had,
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like, the pain he experienced
\h\h\h\h\hin his early life.
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[shouting]
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- You’ve got to have some kind
\h\h\h\h\h\hof an explanation,
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Ultimate Warrior.
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- He might not have gone on
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\h\h\hto be the person
that he was afterwards,
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\h\h\hif it hadn’t been
for the disappointment
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\h\hhe was experiencing while
we were all cheering for him.
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\h\h- You have seen very
small snippets of the man
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that I-I knew personally .
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You think of the guy who’s,
\hyou know, big and tough.
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But he’d tuck us in at night,
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hso gently,
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and read us our books.
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And if there was something
really sad or really rough,
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like, he’d leave it out.
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And that was a beautiful thing
\h\h\hfor when we were little.
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\h\h\h\hBut there’s not
that privilege anymore.
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You have to tell
\hthe full story.
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And with the past seven years
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hthat’s gone on,
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\h\h\h\h\hthere’s no more--you
don’t want to censor anything.
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Like, this is the story of
\h\h\hThe Ultimate Warrior.
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[cheers and applause]
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Read the full book.
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♪ ♪
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[soft music]
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\h- He was skinny.
He was real skinny.
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You know, I had a picture--I
\h\hcouldn’t find it--of him
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in a football outfit.
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Poor--beanpole. Skinny legs.
\h\h\h\h\h\hCute as a button.
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♪ ♪
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- Jim Hellwig was the oldest
\h\h\h\h\h\hof five siblings.
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He has two brothers,
\h\h\h\htwo sisters.
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- This is a picture of the four
kids before I had my last one.
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♪ ♪
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\h- Here’s the place
that I understood Jim
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to tell me his wife grew up,
\h\h\h\hin this mobile home.
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And said that he lifted weights
\h\h\h\h\h\hon that front porch
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right there.
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- Crawfordsville was, I think,
\h\h\h\h\h\hlike 18,000 people.
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Very rural.
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- Demographics of this area:
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hblue-collar.
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Everybody knows or has an idea
of everybody in the community.
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\h- No, I don’t think he was
real popular with the girls.
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Deep down, I think he was shy.
\h\h\hInsecure. Insecure. Yes.
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- He always worshiped his mom,
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hfor her efforts,
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\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hand was always
very complimentary of his mom,
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and loved her very much.
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\h\h\h\h\h- His father
departing their family
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was a pivotal moment for him.
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- I just think--and it’s not
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hjust Jim,
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but all three of my boys--they
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hhad such shame
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\hthat their dad
could leave them.
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\h\h\h\h\hHe’d come back
and go mushroom hunting.
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\h\h\hHe’d come back
and go to ball games.
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And never come to see his kids.
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- Jim’s dad leaving seems
\h\hto have been at least
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\h\h\h\h\ha beginning point of
major trust issues in his life.
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- He had a lot of insecurities
due to the fact that he was ten
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\hwhen his father left.
I think devastated him.
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I think, if I be honest,
\h\h\h\hhaving five kids
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and having to work so much,
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that the kids didn’t always get
\hthe reassurance they needed.
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He didn’t get all the attention
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hhe needed.
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♪ ♪
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- Growing up in a town
\hlike Jim Hellwig did,
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there’s sort of the haves
\h\h\hand the have-nots.
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And when his dad left,
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\h\hand wasn’t contributing
financially to the family,
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suddenly Jim finds himself
\has one of the have-nots.
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- Jim felt that a lot of people
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hin the community
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\h\h\h\h\h\hlooked down on him.
He also very definitively said,
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"I’m going to show
\h\h\hthese people.
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I’m going to do something
\h\h\h\h\hwith my life."
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Which, you think about it,
\h\h\hthis is a 17-year-old
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who has embraced this
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"I’m going to conquer
\hthe world" attitude
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because of the way he feels
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\hthat the people
of his community
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had rejected him
\hand his family.
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♪ ♪
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He also then goes searching for
an identity beyond his father,
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and that’s what ends up
leading him to sports.
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\h\hAnd Jim ends up
meeting Gary Pate.
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- The first time I ever met
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hJim would be
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at football practice
\h\h\h\hback in 1975.
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The first time I ever saw Jim
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was in this classroom
\h\h\h\h\hright here.
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All the team members
were sitting in here.
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Well, when you saw
some of these kids,
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those guys were all about 6’2"
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hand 220 and 225.
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And Jim looked to be about,
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hat that time,
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5’10" and 125.
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\h\hI’m sure he probably
might have weighed more,
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but he didn’t look like it.
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\h\h\h\hAs the year went on,
he found out that I would be
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in the weight room
\hwhen I had time.
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\h\h\h\hHe’d ask if he could
come in with me, and I’d say,
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\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h"Sure. Yeah.
Come in and lift all you want."
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And we would lift, and he would
\hbe intense about his lifting.
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- You have Jim and Gary, who,
\h\h\hfor about three years,
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end up lifting together on sort
of a cruddy old lifting machine
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in their high school.
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This is how he learned
\hto bond with people,
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\h\h\hespecially with paternal
figures--working out with them
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and lifting with them.
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By his senior year,
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Jim was utterly fascinated
\h\h\h\hwith bodybuilding,
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\hand he was constantly
trying to get his hands
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on bodybuilding magazines
\h\h\h\h\hand materials.
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He would apparently be looking
\h\h\h\h\h\hat these magazines
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and say things like,
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\h\h\h\h\h"I can’t wait
till I’m this massive."
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- He had the Arnold
\h\hSchwarzenegger
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poster in his room, you know.
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He’d have his EZ Curl bar
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hin there,
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and would be pumping iron
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\h\h\hfacing the Arnold
Schwarzenegger poster,
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you know, and, like--you know.
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\h\hHe knew that he needed
to seek his own ambitions,
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so he wasn’t stuck
in that rural area,
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being your own farmer,
\h\hworking a factory,
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when he didn’t have no desire
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to do either one of them
\h\h\h\h\h\hfor a living.
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\h- Jim’s pursuit of
a bodybuilding career
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seems to have manifested
\h\h\hin the early 1980s.
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But he makes a move
\hover to Georgia,
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because he feels like there
\h\his a better opportunity
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for the professional
\hbodybuilding scene.
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During that time in Georgia,
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he meets his future wife,
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hShari.
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They get married.
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- You know, he gets married
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hpretty young.
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\h\h\hHe goes down to Atlanta
to try to start this career.
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\hYou know, he’s sort of going
through the stations of, like,
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\h\h\h\h\h\hwhat growing up and
entering adulthood looks like.
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\h\h- And by 1984,
he’s made the move
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\h\hto definitively try to get
himself into competition shape.
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\h\hAnd he does so
and manages to win
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a pretty significant
competition in 1984.
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He wins Mr. Georgia.
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- I knew that it would serve me
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hwell
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to make my body different
\h\hfrom everybody else,
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like a comic book character
just walked off the pages.
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- He was dedicated,
\hand he had a goal
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where he wanted to go
\hwith this lifting.
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- He never said, "I’m gonna
be the world champion WWE,
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\hand I’m gonna pick up Andre
the Giant and body slam him."
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But he did say, "I will,
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one of these days, be a person
\h\hthat people will remember."
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\h\h\hHe said, "I’ll guarantee
that people will remember me."
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[dramatic music]
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♪ ♪
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[dramatic music]
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- Today, I’m boxing
\h\hwith my coach.
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\h\hI love boxing.
I feel like my dad.
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I feel strong and powerful
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hwhen I do it.
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I love the intensity
\h\h\hthat comes out.
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The release from it
\h\hfeels like him.
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\h\h\h\hI would hear him
screaming out in the gym,
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and I’m like--I’m a little bit
\hlike him when I’m in the gym.
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- Coming from my background,
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growing up in a town
\h\h\hof 600 people,
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I stumbled into the weight room
\h\h\h\h\hwe had at our school.
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\h\h\h\h\hRunt of a kid.
Scared of my own shadow.
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And I started gaining weight
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hreally quick.
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And when I started
\h\hgaining weight
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and putting size on my body,
\h\h\h\hI thought to myself,
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\h\h"Well, I can change
my life in other ways."
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♪ ♪
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\h\h\h\h\h- It’s something that
I can strive to get better at,
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and I can look back
at my younger self
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and think, like, "Oh, I thought
\h\h\hI was so good back then,"
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\h\hand then you climb the wall
and you get better and better.
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♪ ♪
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\hWell, in terms of becoming
a wrestler, never say never.
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♪ ♪
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- So, I scheduled
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\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\han appointment
with the high school counselor.
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\h\h15 seconds after I started
telling he what I wanted to do,
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she put her hand up to my face,
about ten inches away from it,
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\h\h\h\h\h\h\hand she said,
"Put that silly stuff away,
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\hand let me tell you
what you need to do.
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\h\h\h\hThis summer, you need
to get a job at the factory.
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\h\hDo a good job. Come back
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\h\hyou should be able
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\h\h\hNow, what else
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\h- For any bodybuilder,
when you build your body,
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\h\h\h\h\h\hyour muscle,
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which is your armor,
\hto protect yourself
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from who you are,
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You could be this insecure
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you know, 240, 250 pounds,
\h\h\hyou know, of muscle.
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- It totally makes sense
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\h\h\h\h\h\h\hthat someone
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\h\h\hwho’s in search of what
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make sense that they would look
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\h\h\h\hIn the ’80s, I mean,
it’s kind of hard to imagine,
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but bodybuilding
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- There was really only
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everyone was talking about,
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\h\h\h\h\hand that was
Arnold Schwarzenegger.
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He was in the moving
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and those images became iconic.
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\hbecomes a huge star.
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\h\h\h\h\h\h\hI mean, arguably
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- How did he get there?
\hIt wasn’t just, "Hey,
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\hlet me go to acting school
and become this movie star."
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It was, oh, he goes to the gym
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hall the time,
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\h\h\h\hand he never quits.
Jim says, "I can do that."
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- If you really want
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you gotta move to California.
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- Gold’s Gym Venice,
\h\h\h\hin the ’80s,
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became the mecca.
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\h\h- Gold’s Gym became
the standard for anyone
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\h\h\h\h\h\h\hwho wanted
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- I contacted Jim,
\hand I invited him
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out to California to train
\h\h\hfor his next contest.
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\h\h\h\h\h’Cause I thought
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- Ed introduced me to Jim,
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hsaying,
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\h\h"Here’s a young guy who’s
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- My first house in Venice was
\hjust two blocks from the gym,
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so the guys would stay
\h\h\h\h\hat the house
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and they would learn
\h\hfrom each other.
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We knew how they trained
\h\h\h\hor what they ate
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or what they took
for supplements.
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- Ed one day came in
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and he wanted me to let this
\hbig dude come in and train.
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This guy was a giant, you know.
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\h\hHe wasn’t just big,
he was kind of freaky.
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He had a freaky build,
\h\ha freaky physique.
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And when he walked through
the room or through the gym
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or anywhere else, people went--
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- Performance-enhancing drugs
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hand steroids
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were definitely in fashion
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\h\h\h\h\h\hwhen it came to
the world of bodybuilding.
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\h\h\h- Steroids were part of
the regiment of what you took
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to be a pro bodybuilder.
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What it did is it gave you
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hthe ability
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\h\h\hto basically be
in an anabolic state.
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You can train hours in the gym
\h\h\h\h\h\hand not break down.
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\h\h\hBut the thing was--is
they were legal back then.
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You can actually have access
\h\h\h\h\hto go to a pharmacy
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and just buy them on your own.
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- I think, if people were
to open my refrigerator,
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\h\h\h\hthey would have
probably been shocked.
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You know, most of the steroids
\h\h\hhave to be refrigerated,
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so some of my family members
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hwould visit,
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and so when they pulled
\h\hout the fruit door,
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they could something
\h\hother than fruit.
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- If I’m gonna take the time
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\h\h\h\hthen you need
to get it down right.
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So, I got up the courage
\h\h\h\hone day--I weight
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about 175 pounds.
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\h\h\hI go up to this guy
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and I tap him on the shoulder.
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I said, "Can I ask you
\h\h\h\h\habout ster--"
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Before I even got the word
"steroid" out in my mouth,
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\h\h\h\hhe turned around.
Guy just towered over me.
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He said, "Before I ever heard
\h\h\h\h\h\h\habout steroids,
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I was number three
in the whole world.
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But when you get up there
\hin that upper echelon,
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there may be a different
\h\h\h\h\hset of rules."
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And what he was telling me,
\h\h\h\has a young punk kid
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of only 18 years old--
\h\h\h\hhe was saying,
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"You get there. You do what
\h\hit takes to get there.
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And then you worry about
\hmaking that decision."
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\h\h\hI weighed 295 pounds
before I ever touched them.
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That’s the story
\habout steroids.
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\h\h\hAnd you better
get that story right.
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- And the next competitor
\h\h\h\h\his Jim Hellwig.
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- You know, guys like Jim,
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\h\h\h\hwho, you know,
I saw as this big guy,
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you would think he would become
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\ha--you know,
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a great pro bodybuilder.
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- [laughs]
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Jim’s goals back then
\h\h\hwas basically,
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I think, to make money
\hand have a great job.
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\h\h- You only made money
when you were a top pro.
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But if you didn’t place
and win the nationals,
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or you didn’t win the Mr. USAs,
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you really weren’t
\hgonna make money.
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- On some level, he had to come
\h\h\h\h\h\hto the realization
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\h\h\h\hthat just being a great
bodybuilder, in and of itself,
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was not going to make him
\h\h\h\hrich and famous.
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- I guess his path was
\h\hto go more towards
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\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hbecoming
a professional wrestler,
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\hyou know, where he
saw money to be made.
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\h\h- In the early ’80s,
wrestling was a big deal.
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Was on TV a lot.
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The wrestlers would train
\h\hat Gold’s Gym Venice.
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So, we actually formed our own,
\h\h\h\hthen, Gold’s Gym team,
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which was composed
\hof two tag teams.
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- Out of the four, we had,
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\h\h\h\hyou know, a big monster
that just disappeared one day.
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\hAnd I said, "Hey, I remember
meeting this guy, Jim Hellwig.
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\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hHe just won
a bodybuilding competition.
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He’s huge. We should call him."
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- When I talked with Jim,
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hI explained
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\h\h\h\h\hthat we had lost
the big member of our team,
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\hand he’d be perfect for it.
He said, "What does it pay?"
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And when I told him $100
\h\h\h\ha night, he said,
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"Well, that’s more money
\h\hthan I’m making now."
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\h- We sent out press kits.
We got one phone call back.
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It was about three days later,
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but we got a phone call back
\h\h\h\h\hfrom Jerry Jarrett.
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He said, "Yeah, I’m looking
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hat a picture,
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and I got four guys
\hin this picture,"
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\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hbut he says,
"I can only use two of you."
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"Well, which two do you want?"
\hHe goes, "I want the two guys
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to the far left in this picture
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hI’m looking at."
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So we got in the car,
\h\h\hmy ’83 T-bird,
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and we left California,
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\h\h\h\hand we drove out
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And that’s where it started.
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- Right now, we would like
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hto welcome
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in a couple of brand new faces
\h\hto Championship Wrestling,
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\ha couple of guys you’re gonna
get to know and know well, too.
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\hWe’re talking about
the Freedom Fighters.
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\h\h\h\h\h\h\hJim Hellwig.
Jim, glad to have you here.
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And Steve Borden.
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Steve, glad to have
\h\hyou guys here.
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This is your first time
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hout here.
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\h\h\h\h\h\hWe want to get
a little background on you.
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How about--are you guys
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hmarried,
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have families, or what?
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\h- No, we’re single.
We’re looking forward
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\h\h\h\h\h\hto meeting
all those pretty girls.
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- You’re both single?
- Yeah. We’re single.
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\h- You hear that, girls?
They’re both single here.
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I want to get that right.
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[cheers and applause]
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- My first reaction was, "Wow."
\h\hI saw two good-looking guys
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that were gonna draw the girls
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hinto the matches,
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\h\hand that’s what it was
all about for us back then.
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Back in the day, we never told
\h\h\hanybody they were married
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or you were engaged
\hor anything else,
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because it would hurt the girls
\hfrom coming to the building.
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- They’re young. They still got
\ha lot to learn in wrestling.
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\h\h\h\hBut boy, they sure got
the physical attributes, baby.
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- There was no sort
\hof gracefulness.
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\h\h\h\hThere was no slow
and poetic storytelling.
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It was just boom, energy,
\h\h\h\hand "I’m coming,
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and I’m hitting you as hard
as I can, and I’m leaving."
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\h- It doesn’t necessarily
connect with the audience.
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Like, "Why are we cheering
\h\h\h\hfor these good guys
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\h\hjust beating the snot out
of these much smaller guys?"
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\hAnd so they had
to make a shift,
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because it wasn’t working.
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\h\h- Our thought was, "Yeah.
Let’s change. Let’s go heel.
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Let’s change our look.
\h\h\hAnd let’s come up
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with something real, you know,
\h\h\hkind of freaky looking."
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\h- Ladies and gentlemen,
the most awesome tag team
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in professional wrestling,
\h\h\h\hthe Blade Runners!
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♪ ♪
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\h- The greatest,
most [inaudible]
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tag team in professional
\h\h\h\hwrestling today,
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the Blade Runners!
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- Before long, Steve Borden
\h\h\h\h\h\hand Jim Hellwig
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\h\h\h\hwere repackaged
into the Blade Runners.
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♪ ♪
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- I think that they realized
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\h\h\h\h\h\hthat intensity
was what they had to offer.
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\hSo the promos that you would
see were just guys working out.
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They weren’t saying anything.
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\h\h\h\h\hBut it was just,
"We’re super intense dudes,
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\h\hand we can lift
super heavy things.
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And sometimes we wear mascara."
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[cheers and applause]
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- Blade Runners. Uh-oh.
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- The matches were horrible
\h\h\h\h\hwith those guys.
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\h\h\h\hAnd it was one of those
situations where, at the time,
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\h\hwe could have taken them
and maybe spent a lot of time
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\h\h\h\h\h\hand, you know,
put them in opening matches
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\h\h\hand tried to train them,
but these guys already thought
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that they were ready
\h\hfor the big time,
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just because of their look.
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\h\h- As Hellwig and Borden
working on Phil Hickerson,
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\h\hand now, Buddy Wayne
slugs him with that shoe.
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- Jill Hellwig has sort of
\h\h\h\h\hreached this peak
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of physical perfection, right?
430
00:19:53,726 --> 00:19:58,000
\h\h\hHe goes to pro wrestling
in search of fame and fortune.
431
00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:01,099
\h\h\hAnd then he sort of
has to start over, right?
432
00:20:01,099 --> 00:20:02,330
\hHe has to start
paying his dues.
433
00:20:02,330 --> 00:20:04,132
He’s not making any money.
\h\h\h\h\h\hHe’s traveling.
434
00:20:04,132 --> 00:20:05,231
He’s on the road all the time.
435
00:20:05,231 --> 00:20:07,264
\h- Ladies and gentlemen,
the most awesome tag team
436
00:20:07,264 --> 00:20:11,528
in professional wrestling,
\h\h\h\hthe Blade Runners!
437
00:20:11,528 --> 00:20:14,759
\h\h- We were on, you know,
the 4th of July, you know,
438
00:20:14,759 --> 00:20:18,528
\h\hmatinee show, evening show,
New Year’s Eve, New Year’s Day,
439
00:20:18,528 --> 00:20:19,726
Christmas Eve, Christmas Day,
440
00:20:19,726 --> 00:20:21,132
\hEaster Sunday--
it didn’t matter,
441
00:20:21,132 --> 00:20:22,759
we were doing two shows a day.
442
00:20:22,759 --> 00:20:27,462
- This man is just so powerful.
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hPunishing kicks.
443
00:20:27,462 --> 00:20:30,594
\h\h\h- Things we’re so bad,
I was driving used taxi cabs
444
00:20:30,594 --> 00:20:34,000
\hthat had, like, 400,000
or 500,000 miles on them.
445
00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:35,132
It was just incredible.
446
00:20:35,132 --> 00:20:38,396
- Nice move by Brett. Dropkick.
447
00:20:38,396 --> 00:20:42,660
- He was very much so,
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hyou know,
448
00:20:42,660 --> 00:20:43,726
opiniated kind of a guy.
449
00:20:43,726 --> 00:20:48,264
\hAnd, you know--and he was not
shy about sharing his opinion.
450
00:20:48,264 --> 00:20:50,528
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hDidn’t matter
what the topic was, you know?
451
00:20:50,528 --> 00:20:52,396
We actually walked away
\h\h\h\h\hat one time.
452
00:20:52,396 --> 00:20:54,396
We walked out on--we
\h\hwere main event.
453
00:20:54,396 --> 00:20:56,528
\hAnd the next day,
I got a phone call.
454
00:20:56,528 --> 00:20:58,264
\h"You need to come up
to Little Rock tonight.
455
00:20:58,264 --> 00:21:00,099
Bill’s holding a couple
\h\hof your paychecks.
456
00:21:00,099 --> 00:21:01,396
You’ll never get them
\h\h\hunless you come
457
00:21:01,396 --> 00:21:02,726
and put a notice in
\hand finish out."
458
00:21:02,726 --> 00:21:06,363
\h\h\hSo I said okay. You know,
"Let me try to get ahold of Jim
459
00:21:06,363 --> 00:21:07,627
\hand see if we can
make this happen."
460
00:21:07,627 --> 00:21:11,759
I couldn’t get Jim anywhere.
\hSo I went and did the show.
461
00:21:11,759 --> 00:21:12,660
And came back.
462
00:21:12,660 --> 00:21:14,264
\hAnd the next day,
Jim was pretty hot.
463
00:21:14,264 --> 00:21:17,132
You know, "What’d you do?
\h\h\hWhat are you doing?
464
00:21:17,132 --> 00:21:18,363
How could you do that to me?"
465
00:21:18,363 --> 00:21:20,066
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hI said, "Jim,
what are you talking about?"
466
00:21:20,066 --> 00:21:21,363
He was real pissed.
467
00:21:21,363 --> 00:21:23,198
And that ultimately ended up,
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hyou know,
468
00:21:23,198 --> 00:21:27,462
\h\hleading to, you know,
us parting ways as well.
469
00:21:27,462 --> 00:21:29,660
[cheers and applause]
470
00:21:29,660 --> 00:21:31,198
\h- Blade Runners,
no doubt about it,
471
00:21:31,198 --> 00:21:32,396
are big, strong individuals.
472
00:21:32,396 --> 00:21:35,231
But I don’t think they’ve got
\h\h\h\hwhat it takes inside.
473
00:21:35,231 --> 00:21:38,264
\h\h\h\h\h\hI’m speaking
of intestinal fortitude.
474
00:21:38,264 --> 00:21:42,000
\h\h- I think he just wanted
to kind of go off on his own.
475
00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,660
\h\h\h\hAnd it ended up
he was probably right.
476
00:21:44,660 --> 00:21:47,264
♪ ♪
477
00:21:47,264 --> 00:21:49,000
\h\h- Hellwig decides
he’s going to leave.
478
00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:54,396
And he has an opening with WCCW
\h\h\hover in the Dallas area.
479
00:21:54,396 --> 00:21:58,132
- Welcome to World Class
\hChampionship Wrestling,
480
00:21:58,132 --> 00:22:00,132
\h\h\h\hthe Major League
of Professional Wrestling
481
00:22:00,132 --> 00:22:04,000
\h\h\h\hseen around the world
and across this great nation.
482
00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:08,396
- WCCW had really
an international
483
00:22:08,396 --> 00:22:12,132
\h\hfollowing of sorts,
because the Von Erichs
484
00:22:12,132 --> 00:22:14,759
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hwere like
a first family of wrestling.
485
00:22:14,759 --> 00:22:16,528
[rock music]
486
00:22:16,528 --> 00:22:18,528
- They had an audience
\hthat was very unique
487
00:22:18,528 --> 00:22:19,726
in the history of wrestling,
488
00:22:19,726 --> 00:22:22,330
\h\hand a large percentage
of the audience was women,
489
00:22:22,330 --> 00:22:26,099
\h\hand it was all about
really good-looking guys
490
00:22:26,099 --> 00:22:27,066
with great bodies.
491
00:22:27,066 --> 00:22:28,198
So Jim comes in, and I mean,
492
00:22:28,198 --> 00:22:33,726
\h\h\hJim is, like, perfect
for that specific audience.
493
00:22:33,726 --> 00:22:35,066
[cheers and applause]
494
00:22:35,066 --> 00:22:36,264
- I remember the first night,
495
00:22:36,264 --> 00:22:38,231
\h\h\h\h\h\hI drove in there,
they came up to me and said,
496
00:22:38,231 --> 00:22:40,396
\h\h\h\h"Warrior. He’s got
a warrior thing about him,"
497
00:22:40,396 --> 00:22:41,462
or something like that.
498
00:22:41,462 --> 00:22:44,528
Then somebody came in. He had
a little puppy, a new puppy.
499
00:22:44,528 --> 00:22:46,594
And they were asking him
what kind of dog it was.
500
00:22:46,594 --> 00:22:47,594
He says, "A dingo."
501
00:22:47,594 --> 00:22:51,066
And somebody just--you know,
somebody that was, you know,
502
00:22:51,066 --> 00:22:54,231
not quite sober yet, said,
\h\h\h"Dingo-Dingo Warrior.
503
00:22:54,231 --> 00:22:56,231
\h\h\h\h\hThat’ll work.
We’ll do that tonight."
504
00:22:56,231 --> 00:22:59,000
So, that was the beginning
of the Dingo Warrior thing.
505
00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:04,660
\h\h\h- From Queens, New York,
287 pounds, the Dingo Warrior.
506
00:23:04,660 --> 00:23:06,132
[cheers and applause]
507
00:23:06,132 --> 00:23:09,000
- He was billed as being
\hfrom Queens, New York.
508
00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:10,660
So, there’s no dingoes
\h\h\h\h\h\hin Queens.
509
00:23:10,660 --> 00:23:11,726
Dingoes are Australian.
510
00:23:11,726 --> 00:23:17,066
And the word "dingo" is just
\h\ha ridiculous, silly word.
511
00:23:17,066 --> 00:23:20,726
It just sounds hilarious
\h\hand not intimidating.
512
00:23:20,726 --> 00:23:22,198
[cheers and applause]
513
00:23:22,198 --> 00:23:28,462
- Look at the awesome physical
\hbeauty of the Dingo Warrior.
514
00:23:28,462 --> 00:23:29,759
- I’ll tell you, Brian,
515
00:23:29,759 --> 00:23:31,594
this crowd’s behind him,
\h\h\h\htoo, 100 percent.
516
00:23:31,594 --> 00:23:35,330
\h- So, you bring any freak of
nature you want to World Class,
517
00:23:35,330 --> 00:23:36,528
because believe me, brother,
518
00:23:36,528 --> 00:23:39,264
I’ve looked in the eyes
\h\hof darkness before.
519
00:23:39,264 --> 00:23:41,528
And I’m not scared of it,
\h\hand I never will be,
520
00:23:41,528 --> 00:23:43,528
with the warriors
\hbehind my back.
521
00:23:43,528 --> 00:23:47,231
- As the Dingo Warrior,
\h\h\h\h\h\hJim Hellwig
522
00:23:47,231 --> 00:23:51,660
\hgets a noticeable
following in WCCW.
523
00:23:51,660 --> 00:23:53,231
all: Dingo. Dingo. Dingo.
524
00:23:53,231 --> 00:23:56,396
\h\h- Listen to the crowd,
wound up for the Dingo man.
525
00:23:56,396 --> 00:23:59,198
all: Dingo. Dingo. Dingo.
526
00:23:59,198 --> 00:24:02,099
- It was very obvious to me
\h\h\h\hthat the business--
527
00:24:02,099 --> 00:24:05,132
\h\hit was going a direction
where it wasn’t so much like
528
00:24:05,132 --> 00:24:06,330
Dick the Bruiser
and the Crusher,
529
00:24:06,330 --> 00:24:08,594
\hthose kind of wrestlers
that I remember as a kid,
530
00:24:08,594 --> 00:24:10,462
growing up with, in Indiana,
531
00:24:10,462 --> 00:24:13,330
and that something different
\h\h\h\hwas going on with it.
532
00:24:13,330 --> 00:24:16,264
You know, I was painting
\h\hthe logo on my face.
533
00:24:16,264 --> 00:24:17,264
Dingo Warrior, to me,
534
00:24:17,264 --> 00:24:18,726
\h\hwas the poor version
of the Ultimate Warrior.
535
00:24:18,726 --> 00:24:22,594
I didn’t really have much money
to spend on that kind of stuff.
536
00:24:22,594 --> 00:24:23,726
But it just grew, man.
537
00:24:23,726 --> 00:24:26,264
It really turned into something
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hreally fantastic.
538
00:24:26,264 --> 00:24:29,264
\h\h- And here’s a man
of awesome proportions,
539
00:24:29,264 --> 00:24:31,759
who has to be counted on
\hto be one of the major
540
00:24:31,759 --> 00:24:35,066
influences in professional
\h\h\h\h\hwrestling today.
541
00:24:35,066 --> 00:24:36,396
- [inaudible] Dingo!
542
00:24:36,396 --> 00:24:39,528
[tense music]
543
00:24:39,528 --> 00:24:46,132
♪ ♪
544
00:24:46,132 --> 00:24:47,198
- So, Jim returns
545
00:24:47,198 --> 00:24:51,726
to the Fountain Central
\h\h\hTen-Year Reunion.
546
00:24:51,726 --> 00:24:53,759
\hHe has not only
won Mr. Georgia,
547
00:24:53,759 --> 00:24:56,231
but he has also become
\h\hthe Dingo Warrior.
548
00:24:56,231 --> 00:25:03,528
\h\h\h\h\hHe’s enormous.
280 pounds, solid muscle.
549
00:25:04,099 --> 00:25:06,495
This was not a coming back
\h\hto sort of mend fences
550
00:25:06,495 --> 00:25:08,660
or to connect with people
\hhe didn’t connect with.
551
00:25:08,660 --> 00:25:13,264
His whole take was, if you had
\hbeen his friend in his youth,
552
00:25:13,264 --> 00:25:14,660
\h\h"Come sit with me.
We’re gonna hang out."
553
00:25:14,660 --> 00:25:17,528
And for those people who tried
\h\hto be more chummy with him,
554
00:25:17,528 --> 00:25:20,462
\h\h\hthat had not given him
the time of day in his youth,
555
00:25:20,462 --> 00:25:21,462
he had no interest.
556
00:25:21,462 --> 00:25:25,396
\h- He won a couple bottles
of champagne for the person
557
00:25:25,396 --> 00:25:27,132
that had changed the most
558
00:25:27,132 --> 00:25:29,495
\h\h\h\h\hand the person
that drove the furthest.
559
00:25:29,495 --> 00:25:31,660
\hAnd I remember him
opening the champagne
560
00:25:31,660 --> 00:25:33,462
and having us all drink
\h\ha little bit of it,
561
00:25:33,462 --> 00:25:38,462
you know, celebrating just our
\hreunion together as friends.
562
00:25:38,462 --> 00:25:42,000
\h\h\h- He didn’t forget
where he came from. Okay?
563
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:43,462
Jim was a loyal friend.
564
00:25:43,462 --> 00:25:48,264
If you hung in there with him,
\h\hhe hung in there with you.
565
00:25:48,264 --> 00:25:50,231
- Now, with a pin. Two. Three.
566
00:25:50,231 --> 00:25:54,660
\h\hThe Dingo Warrior
subdues Jack Victory.
567
00:25:54,660 --> 00:25:58,231
- Jim Hellwig was a remarkably
\h\h\h\h\hcreative human being.
568
00:25:58,231 --> 00:26:01,000
Part of it is the look,
and I think part of it,
569
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:06,000
\h\has well, is the fact
that he’s just different.
570
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,066
- When Vince McMahon sees
\h\hJim Hellwig in 1987,
571
00:26:09,066 --> 00:26:11,231
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hhe sees
the picture-perfect mold
572
00:26:11,231 --> 00:26:12,594
\h\h\hfor what he’s
putting out there.
573
00:26:12,594 --> 00:26:15,000
He sees, "There’s definitely
\h\h\h\h\h\hsomething there.
574
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,099
But I’m gonna make
this thing my own."
575
00:26:17,099 --> 00:26:20,495
\h- And look at the power
of the Ultimate Warrior.
576
00:26:24,396 --> 00:26:27,264
[upbeat music]
577
00:26:27,264 --> 00:26:28,528
♪ ♪
578
00:26:28,528 --> 00:26:29,660
- In the territory days,
579
00:26:29,660 --> 00:26:33,264
\h\h\h\hthe WWE was just
the New York territory .
580
00:26:33,264 --> 00:26:34,264
- The recognized symbol
581
00:26:34,264 --> 00:26:36,528
\h\h\h\h\h\hof excellence
in sports entertainment.
582
00:26:36,528 --> 00:26:37,660
[cheers and applause]
583
00:26:37,660 --> 00:26:42,000
- By the time people of my age
\h\h\h\hbracket were invested,
584
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:45,462
\h\h\h\h\hthe WWE had
become the territory.
585
00:26:45,462 --> 00:26:46,396
[dramatic music]
586
00:26:46,396 --> 00:26:51,660
\h- They were hitting cable TV,
being seen all over the world.
587
00:26:51,660 --> 00:26:53,000
♪ ♪
588
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:54,660
\h- Vince McMahon
is as responsible
589
00:26:54,660 --> 00:26:56,330
for the success of the WWE
590
00:26:56,330 --> 00:27:00,330
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\has anyone
is for the success of anything.
591
00:27:00,330 --> 00:27:03,363
\h\hThis is this guy who took
everything his father started
592
00:27:03,363 --> 00:27:06,264
\h\h\hand said, "That’s great.
I like what you’re doing here.
593
00:27:06,264 --> 00:27:09,231
\h\h\hBut what if we took
over the world with it?"
594
00:27:09,231 --> 00:27:13,330
- And Dingo is the winner.
\h\h\h\h- So, Jim Hellwig,
595
00:27:13,330 --> 00:27:15,462
as the Dingo Warrior,
\h\h\h\h\his in WCCW,
596
00:27:15,462 --> 00:27:17,594
\h\hand Vince McMahon
takes one look at him
597
00:27:17,594 --> 00:27:21,066
\h\h\h\hand he says, "Okay,
I’ll give that guy a shot."
598
00:27:21,066 --> 00:27:24,396
- The Ultimate Warrior.
599
00:27:24,396 --> 00:27:29,231
\h\h\h- The Ultimate Warrior
was a Vince McMahon creation.
600
00:27:29,231 --> 00:27:33,066
His first attempt
to create a star,
601
00:27:33,066 --> 00:27:36,660
\h\h\honce he already had all
the eyeballs on his company.
602
00:27:36,660 --> 00:27:38,759
- He’s a strong, powerful man.
603
00:27:38,759 --> 00:27:40,396
- There’s something Vince
\h\htold me at one time,
604
00:27:40,396 --> 00:27:41,594
and I’ll always remember this.
605
00:27:41,594 --> 00:27:43,495
But he sat down with me
and he said, "You know,
606
00:27:43,495 --> 00:27:45,495
\h\hJimmy, I’m looking
for my next attraction.
607
00:27:45,495 --> 00:27:46,594
Somebody bigger than life.
608
00:27:46,594 --> 00:27:49,132
Somebody that can walk through
\h\h\hany airport in the world,
609
00:27:49,132 --> 00:27:51,396
\h\h\hand even a casual
wrestling fan would go,
610
00:27:51,396 --> 00:27:53,132
"Oh my God. Look who it is.’"
611
00:27:53,132 --> 00:27:56,264
\h- The power of the warrior
flowing through those veins.
612
00:27:56,264 --> 00:27:57,198
- Oh!
613
00:27:57,198 --> 00:27:59,066
- Oh! What a clothesline!
614
00:27:59,066 --> 00:28:01,132
\h- He was the only person
that would run--and I mean
615
00:28:01,132 --> 00:28:04,198
\h\h\htop speed--all
the way to the ring.
616
00:28:04,198 --> 00:28:08,627
- Introducing first,
weighing 275 pounds,
617
00:28:08,627 --> 00:28:13,594
\hfrom parts unknown,
the Ultimate Warrior.
618
00:28:13,594 --> 00:28:14,627
[rock music]
619
00:28:14,627 --> 00:28:18,132
- You had the Hulkamania,
with the red and yellow,
620
00:28:18,132 --> 00:28:19,264
the bright colors, the tee,
621
00:28:19,264 --> 00:28:20,627
\h\hand all of a sudden
you got a guy come in,
622
00:28:20,627 --> 00:28:23,099
but instead of red and yellow,
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hhe’s got neon on.
623
00:28:23,099 --> 00:28:26,264
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Look at this.
- What a display of strength
624
00:28:26,264 --> 00:28:28,594
as the Warrior has him
\h\hhigh over his head.
625
00:28:28,594 --> 00:28:32,264
- Except for Hulk Hogan, he was
the most popular guy they had.
626
00:28:32,264 --> 00:28:33,396
Very quickly.
627
00:28:33,396 --> 00:28:34,726
\h\h- The audience
would react to him.
628
00:28:34,726 --> 00:28:36,231
\h\h\hThey started
reacting very well.
629
00:28:36,231 --> 00:28:37,660
And I thought, "Hmm. Okay then.
630
00:28:37,660 --> 00:28:39,000
Maybe we do have
something here."
631
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:44,099
- What an impressive showing
here by the Ultimate Warrior.
632
00:28:44,099 --> 00:28:46,726
- You can see that he’s on
\h\h\h\ha clear trajectory.
633
00:28:46,726 --> 00:28:48,330
That Vince is, like,
\hwriting this script
634
00:28:48,330 --> 00:28:52,264
\h\hthat will put him following
in the footsteps of Hulk Hogan.
635
00:28:52,264 --> 00:28:53,396
[cheers and applause]
636
00:28:53,396 --> 00:28:54,462
- Ladies and gentlemen,
637
00:28:54,462 --> 00:29:00,726
\h\h\h\hthis contest is for the
Intercontinental Championship.
638
00:29:00,726 --> 00:29:02,132
- Honky Tonk Man is gonna
639
00:29:02,132 --> 00:29:04,462
defend the Intercontinental
\h\h\h\h\h\hChampionship...
640
00:29:04,462 --> 00:29:06,660
- Get me somebody out here
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hto wrestle.
641
00:29:06,660 --> 00:29:08,264
I don’t care who it is.
642
00:29:08,264 --> 00:29:11,132
- Against an unnamed opponent.
643
00:29:11,132 --> 00:29:14,132
And you’re waiting to hear
\h\h\h\hwho it’s gonna be.
644
00:29:14,132 --> 00:29:16,594
And that music hits.
645
00:29:16,594 --> 00:29:17,528
[rock music]
646
00:29:17,528 --> 00:29:20,132
- Wait a minute. Wait a minute.
647
00:29:20,132 --> 00:29:21,231
Somebody’s music.
648
00:29:21,231 --> 00:29:26,231
- I mean, as Gorilla Monsoon
\h\h\h\h\hsays, pandemonium.
649
00:29:26,231 --> 00:29:29,264
- Here’s is the challenger
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h[inaudible].
650
00:29:29,264 --> 00:29:31,528
- It’s the Ultimate Warrior!
651
00:29:31,528 --> 00:29:35,528
[cheers and applause]
652
00:29:35,528 --> 00:29:38,198
This place has gone bananas!
653
00:29:38,198 --> 00:29:42,000
- I remember what it felt
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hlike, man.
654
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,396
\h\hIt was [bleep]
awesome, you know.
655
00:29:44,396 --> 00:29:45,528
It...
656
00:29:45,528 --> 00:29:49,396
- Ultimate Warrior exploding
\h\h\hhere on Honky Tonk Man.
657
00:29:49,396 --> 00:29:50,396
Beautiful flying tackle.
658
00:29:50,396 --> 00:29:55,099
- It was just nonstop energy
\h\hfor less than 30 seconds,
659
00:29:55,099 --> 00:29:57,363
\h\h\h\hand there was a new
Intercontinental Champion.
660
00:29:57,363 --> 00:29:58,528
- [inaudible] hooks the leg!
661
00:29:58,528 --> 00:30:01,264
\h- That’s it!
- He’s got it!
662
00:30:01,264 --> 00:30:04,264
History has been made here!
663
00:30:04,264 --> 00:30:06,000
\h\h\h- Just shocked
the wrestling world.
664
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:07,132
Nobody expected it, right?
665
00:30:07,132 --> 00:30:08,627
\hHe had the belt
for over a year.
666
00:30:08,627 --> 00:30:10,132
\hAnd I think that’s
what really gave him
667
00:30:10,132 --> 00:30:11,660
the little rocket
\hthat he needed.
668
00:30:11,660 --> 00:30:13,396
- It is unbelievable.
669
00:30:13,396 --> 00:30:17,099
\h\h\h\h\h\hA newly-crowned
Intercontinental Champion.
670
00:30:17,099 --> 00:30:20,132
- It was just another
\h\h\h\hcritical step
671
00:30:20,132 --> 00:30:26,330
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hin him becoming
the biggest wrestler in WWE.
672
00:30:26,330 --> 00:30:31,396
[indistinct chatter]
673
00:30:31,396 --> 00:30:34,264
\h\h- There you go.
Thanks a lot, man.
674
00:30:34,264 --> 00:30:40,132
\h\h\h\h\h- This is WWE
letting the world know
675
00:30:40,132 --> 00:30:41,264
this is the next guy.
676
00:30:41,264 --> 00:30:46,000
This guy that you think might
be a star, he is a superstar.
677
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:50,528
- Please welcome the man known
\h\h\has the Ultimate Warrior.
678
00:30:50,528 --> 00:30:52,528
[cheers and applause]
679
00:30:52,528 --> 00:30:53,660
- I think the Ultimate Warrior
680
00:30:53,660 --> 00:30:56,066
\hwas a great match
for the late ’80s,
681
00:30:56,066 --> 00:30:56,660
early ’90s.
682
00:30:56,660 --> 00:31:00,396
\h\hEverything was about being
as big and strong and bombastic
683
00:31:00,396 --> 00:31:02,066
as a character as possible.
684
00:31:02,066 --> 00:31:04,000
He was a cartoon character
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hcome to life.
685
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:08,264
So, my earliest memories of the
\hUltimate Warrior are of this,
686
00:31:08,264 --> 00:31:11,759
\h\hlike, mad man covered
in tassels and of a doll
687
00:31:11,759 --> 00:31:15,594
\hthat I wanted to cuddle
and take to bed with me.
688
00:31:15,594 --> 00:31:18,132
♪ ♪
689
00:31:18,132 --> 00:31:22,132
- Hey. Yo. Yo.
690
00:31:22,132 --> 00:31:25,660
- Now, because he
\his successful,
691
00:31:25,660 --> 00:31:29,660
now he’s got that target
\h\h\h\h\h\hon his back.
692
00:31:29,660 --> 00:31:31,198
\h\h- Ah!
- Ah. Ah.
693
00:31:31,198 --> 00:31:33,726
\h\h\h\h- "This guy’s only been
in the business for five years.
694
00:31:33,726 --> 00:31:36,528
I’ve been in this business
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hfor 20 years.
695
00:31:36,528 --> 00:31:38,264
What dues did he pay?"
696
00:31:38,264 --> 00:31:40,627
There’s all that going on
\h\h\hin the locker room.
697
00:31:40,627 --> 00:31:44,066
\h\h\h\h\h\hI got the sense
that he really was a loner.
698
00:31:44,066 --> 00:31:47,462
\h- Warrior was very much,
at times, an overgrown kid.
699
00:31:47,462 --> 00:31:50,396
\hHaving known a lot
of his personal life,
700
00:31:50,396 --> 00:31:52,396
\hhe never really
got to be a kid.
701
00:31:52,396 --> 00:31:54,363
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hYou know?
Came from a broken home.
702
00:31:54,363 --> 00:31:56,099
\h\hHad to grow him
and mature quickly.
703
00:31:56,099 --> 00:32:01,132
So, I do think that the Warrior
\hcharacter--that’s why he fell
704
00:32:01,132 --> 00:32:02,132
in love with it so much,
705
00:32:02,132 --> 00:32:04,132
\h\h\hbecause it was
an extension of him,
706
00:32:04,132 --> 00:32:05,759
and he got to escape
\hand do those things
707
00:32:05,759 --> 00:32:10,000
\h\h\hand live probably a lot
of things he never got to do.
708
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,726
- The Ultimate Warrior.
709
00:32:12,726 --> 00:32:15,132
If we were in town, I mean,
it only made sense to say,
710
00:32:15,132 --> 00:32:18,759
"Look, you know, come home
\h\hand let’s have dinner,"
711
00:32:18,759 --> 00:32:20,363
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hyou know,
and my wife would fix dinner.
712
00:32:20,363 --> 00:32:24,000
\h\h\h\h\h\hAnd it was a breath
of fresh air to have him there.
713
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:25,627
He was so different, you know,
714
00:32:25,627 --> 00:32:28,000
and he really wanted
\h\hthat environment.
715
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:32,000
You could tell he was attracted
\h\h\h\h\hto that environment.
716
00:32:35,198 --> 00:32:39,528
\h\h- There was very few people
that were invited to come over
717
00:32:39,528 --> 00:32:42,132
to my parents’ house.
718
00:32:43,594 --> 00:32:45,231
[both laughing]
719
00:32:45,231 --> 00:32:48,198
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- You know what,
if he was asked, he would have.
720
00:32:48,198 --> 00:32:49,660
He would definitely
\h\hdo the dishes.
721
00:32:49,660 --> 00:32:52,264
He was just that type of guy.
722
00:32:52,264 --> 00:32:55,264
My dad was a father
\h\hfigure to many,
723
00:32:55,264 --> 00:32:57,330
and definitely was to Warrior.
724
00:32:57,330 --> 00:33:00,132
I think it was just
that family dynamic
725
00:33:00,132 --> 00:33:03,396
\hthat Jim always
aspired to have.
726
00:33:03,396 --> 00:33:05,264
[cheers and applause]
727
00:33:05,264 --> 00:33:09,000
- Coming up from behind.
\h\hLook out from behind.
728
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,396
- Ah!
729
00:33:11,396 --> 00:33:16,066
- They end up having Warrior
\hfeud with Andre the Giant,
730
00:33:16,066 --> 00:33:19,066
\hwho had previously been
the most beloved wrestler
731
00:33:19,066 --> 00:33:20,726
maybe on the planet.
732
00:33:20,726 --> 00:33:26,528
- You see the ultimate maniac
\hhas felt these large hands
733
00:33:26,528 --> 00:33:27,462
around his neck.
734
00:33:27,462 --> 00:33:32,396
He is feeling, right now, the
Intercontinental Championship
735
00:33:32,396 --> 00:33:34,396
slipping off his waist.
736
00:33:34,396 --> 00:33:37,330
- One of the big values
\h\hof Andre the Giant
737
00:33:37,330 --> 00:33:41,495
was that if somebody beats him,
\h\h\hor somebody can slam him,
738
00:33:41,495 --> 00:33:44,066
they’re a household name,
\h\h\h\h\hand Hulk Hogan
739
00:33:44,066 --> 00:33:46,528
body slamming Andre the Giant
\h\h\h\h\hat WrestleMania III
740
00:33:46,528 --> 00:33:49,726
is the thing that set
Hulkamania in motion.
741
00:33:49,726 --> 00:33:55,066
- Look at this. He slammed him!
\h\h- And you, Andre the Giant,
742
00:33:55,066 --> 00:33:57,363
will realize that the power
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hwill become
743
00:33:57,363 --> 00:34:02,660
the Eighth Wonder of the World,
\h\h\h\h\has we eat you alive!
744
00:34:02,660 --> 00:34:06,066
[cheers and applause]
745
00:34:06,066 --> 00:34:08,594
- Andre never did anything
\h\h\hhe didn’t want to do.
746
00:34:08,594 --> 00:34:12,000
It was frightening the first
time he told me to slam him.
747
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:15,132
[dramatic music]
748
00:34:15,132 --> 00:34:18,264
♪ ♪
749
00:34:18,264 --> 00:34:22,066
\h\h\h\hI knew what it meant to
the character Ultimate Warrior,
750
00:34:22,066 --> 00:34:24,099
\h\h\hand how much over
that character would be
751
00:34:24,099 --> 00:34:25,660
by being allowed to do that.
752
00:34:25,660 --> 00:34:29,660
- Is he gonna pick him up? Wow.
753
00:34:29,660 --> 00:34:32,396
- So now, you’re able
754
00:34:32,396 --> 00:34:34,660
\h\h\h\h\hto really think
of like Ultimate Warrior.
755
00:34:34,660 --> 00:34:36,198
He’s on the same level
\h\h\h\has Hulk Hogan.
756
00:34:36,198 --> 00:34:38,627
Because up until that moment,
the greatest thing Hulk Hogan
757
00:34:38,627 --> 00:34:40,528
\h\h\h\h\h\hhad ever achieved
was beating Andre the Giant.
758
00:34:40,528 --> 00:34:43,396
Well now, Ultimate Warrior’s
\h\h\hbeaten Andre the Giant.
759
00:34:43,396 --> 00:34:47,627
"You slammed Andre.
\hI slammed Andre."
760
00:34:47,627 --> 00:34:50,660
- You can beat everybody else
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hon the roster.
761
00:34:50,660 --> 00:34:53,264
But after you slam
\hAndre the Giant,
762
00:34:53,264 --> 00:34:55,132
there’s only one place
\h\h\h\h\h\hleft to go,
763
00:34:55,132 --> 00:34:57,264
and that’s Hulk Hogan.
764
00:34:57,264 --> 00:35:00,726
[indistinct shouting]
765
00:35:00,726 --> 00:35:03,264
♪ ♪
766
00:35:07,066 --> 00:35:11,099
[birds chirping]
767
00:35:12,594 --> 00:35:15,726
- There, you didn’t cry
\h\h\h\h\h\hfor Santa.
768
00:35:15,726 --> 00:35:17,000
You were too little.
769
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:20,231
\hIt’s been seven years
since we lost Warrior,
770
00:35:20,231 --> 00:35:23,594
and now we’re actually able
\h\hto look at the memories
771
00:35:23,594 --> 00:35:27,264
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hand enjoy them
and revel in them and laugh.
772
00:35:27,264 --> 00:35:30,231
Warrior’s role at Christmastime
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hwas, like,
773
00:35:30,231 --> 00:35:32,726
\hthe biggest elf
you’ve ever met.
774
00:35:32,726 --> 00:35:34,000
And he’d negotiate.
775
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:35,363
\h\h\h- Negotiate--
he would negotiate.
776
00:35:35,363 --> 00:35:37,099
\h\h\h\h\h\h- There was a lot
of negotiation on Christmas.
777
00:35:37,099 --> 00:35:39,495
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Absolutely.
- About what you guys deserved.
778
00:35:39,495 --> 00:35:40,396
- Yes.
- Yeah.
779
00:35:40,396 --> 00:35:41,660
- Every morning, on Christmas,
780
00:35:41,660 --> 00:35:44,231
we’d wake up with a note about
\hwhat we should improve on...
781
00:35:44,231 --> 00:35:45,000
- Yeah.
782
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:46,132
- For the next year.
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Yep.
783
00:35:46,132 --> 00:35:47,528
- ’Cause next year,
\hit might be coal.
784
00:35:47,528 --> 00:35:48,660
- And it was detailed.
785
00:35:48,660 --> 00:35:50,066
- It was scary.
786
00:35:50,066 --> 00:35:51,726
But then you had to get over it
\h\h\h\hand you’d get presents.
787
00:35:51,726 --> 00:35:54,198
- Like, "Wait, this is
\h\hDad’s handwriting."
788
00:35:54,198 --> 00:35:55,528
[laughter]
789
00:35:55,528 --> 00:36:01,198
- For me and the girls, it’s
about his legacy as a father.
790
00:36:01,198 --> 00:36:04,726
But for millions of fans,
\hit will always be about
791
00:36:04,726 --> 00:36:07,462
what he did in the ring
\h\h\hwith Hulk Hogan.
792
00:36:07,462 --> 00:36:11,000
I think it’s pretty incredible
\h\h\h\hto imagine he only had
793
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,495
five years in the business,
\h\h\h\h\hand he was tasked
794
00:36:13,495 --> 00:36:19,099
with the job of replacing
\h\h\ha veritable legend.
795
00:36:19,099 --> 00:36:22,726
- Hulk Hogan in the ’80s
literally was wrestling.
796
00:36:22,726 --> 00:36:24,198
[rock music]
797
00:36:24,198 --> 00:36:26,396
\h\h\h- And just remember,
Hulkamania is running wild.
798
00:36:26,396 --> 00:36:29,330
- Crazy. Thank you, Hulk.
799
00:36:29,330 --> 00:36:32,726
- He ushered in a new,
\h\h\hlarger-than-life,
800
00:36:32,726 --> 00:36:37,660
\h\h\halmost cartoonish era
of professional wrestling.
801
00:36:37,660 --> 00:36:40,198
\h\h\h- Hulk Hogan,
over the six years
802
00:36:40,198 --> 00:36:42,330
leading to WrestleMania VI,
803
00:36:42,330 --> 00:36:46,066
had turned Hulkamania
\hinto a phenomenal.
804
00:36:46,066 --> 00:36:49,330
♪ ♪
805
00:36:49,330 --> 00:36:51,099
- Remember what’s going on
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hin the ring.
806
00:36:51,099 --> 00:36:54,264
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hHulk is posing.
We’re in the celebration mood.
807
00:36:54,264 --> 00:36:56,066
We want the opposite of that.
808
00:36:56,066 --> 00:36:57,099
- Okay.
- Okay?
809
00:36:57,099 --> 00:36:59,099
Hulk Hogan and the Ultimate
\h\h\hWarrior--at the time,
810
00:36:59,099 --> 00:37:02,066
\h\h\h\h\hthey’re you’re
top good guys in the WWE.
811
00:37:02,066 --> 00:37:05,231
So, when they start to flirt
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hwith this idea
812
00:37:05,231 --> 00:37:06,396
that there may be
\hsome animosity
813
00:37:06,396 --> 00:37:09,132
\h\h\hbetween Hulk Hogan
and the Ultimate Warrior,
814
00:37:09,132 --> 00:37:11,528
you’re going, "Wait a minute."
815
00:37:11,528 --> 00:37:15,759
\h- Bollea and Hellwig had
a rivalry with one another,
816
00:37:15,759 --> 00:37:19,660
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hand they had
a mutual professional jealousy.
817
00:37:19,660 --> 00:37:21,264
Which made sense.
818
00:37:21,264 --> 00:37:23,726
[cheers and applause]
819
00:37:23,726 --> 00:37:26,132
- How could there not be
\h\h\h\hprofessional envy
820
00:37:26,132 --> 00:37:30,264
and jealousy between Hulk Hogan
\h\h\hand the Ultimate Warrior?
821
00:37:30,264 --> 00:37:32,726
\h\h\h\h\h\h- Another elbow
into the Hulkster’s chest.
822
00:37:32,726 --> 00:37:37,660
- Ultimate Warrior was designed
\h\h\h\hto replace Hulk Hogan.
823
00:37:37,660 --> 00:37:40,264
How could Hulk Hogan
\h\hnot resent that?
824
00:37:40,264 --> 00:37:43,198
\h\h\h\h- [inaudible]
the Ultimate Warrior
825
00:37:43,198 --> 00:37:47,132
[inaudible].
826
00:37:47,132 --> 00:37:51,000
\h\h\h\h\h- I don’t understand
the Warrior’s thinking on this.
827
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:54,660
\h\h\h\h\hWhy should he run
to the ring and save Hogan?
828
00:37:54,660 --> 00:37:57,462
- How could Warrior not resent
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hHulk Hogan?
829
00:37:57,462 --> 00:37:58,759
If you’re gonna compete
\h\h\h\h\hwith somebody
830
00:37:58,759 --> 00:38:01,396
\h\hfor the number one spot,
by design, you have to think,
831
00:38:01,396 --> 00:38:03,330
"Here’s why I’m better
\h\hthan that person."
832
00:38:03,330 --> 00:38:06,660
- Wait a minute. Clothesline.
\hHere it comes from behind.
833
00:38:06,660 --> 00:38:08,462
\h\h\h\h\h\hHe stopped.
Wait. What’s going on?
834
00:38:08,462 --> 00:38:12,000
\h\h\h- Very nature of that
competition between the two
835
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,198
is going to breed envy
836
00:38:14,198 --> 00:38:15,660
\h\h\h\h\h\hand jealousy
between the two of them.
837
00:38:15,660 --> 00:38:19,132
- Both champions, Hulk Hogan
\h\hand the Ultimate Warrior,
838
00:38:19,132 --> 00:38:21,132
\h\h\hwant to be sure
the other is healthy
839
00:38:21,132 --> 00:38:22,726
for Sunday afternoon, April 1.
840
00:38:22,726 --> 00:38:25,066
\h\hThe World Wrestling
Entertainment champion
841
00:38:25,066 --> 00:38:28,198
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hagainst the
Intercontinental Champion.
842
00:38:28,198 --> 00:38:30,726
- This was a big topic
\h\h\h\hof conversation
843
00:38:30,726 --> 00:38:32,231
among 11-year-olds:
844
00:38:32,231 --> 00:38:34,594
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hwho’s gonna win,
Ultimate Warrior or Hulk Hogan?
845
00:38:34,594 --> 00:38:37,660
I mean, for us, this was, like,
\hyou know, Magic versus Bird.
846
00:38:37,660 --> 00:38:41,000
- At the end of WrestleMania,
\h\h\hit’ll be the Hulkster.
847
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:44,132
In God, they still trust.
848
00:38:49,660 --> 00:38:53,330
- Look into my eyes,
\h\h\h\h\hHulk Hogan.
849
00:38:53,330 --> 00:38:58,099
You see nothingness.
850
00:39:06,264 --> 00:39:08,726
- Warrior not only has to step
\h\h\hinto the ring with Hogan,
851
00:39:08,726 --> 00:39:10,660
has to carry the main event
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hwith Hogan,
852
00:39:10,660 --> 00:39:16,198
\h\h\hhas to live up to the box
office expectations with Hogan.
853
00:39:16,198 --> 00:39:18,660
Is he gonna beat Hogan?
854
00:39:18,660 --> 00:39:25,099
\h\h\h\hThe pressure on Warrior
to deliver--it’s mind-boggling
855
00:39:25,099 --> 00:39:28,462
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hto think
that pressure didn’t crush him.
856
00:39:28,462 --> 00:39:33,363
- The Ultimate Warrior!
857
00:39:33,363 --> 00:39:35,660
- Listen to the ovation
\h\h\h\h\h\h[inaudible]
858
00:39:35,660 --> 00:39:41,264
\h\hfor the Ultimate Warrior!
Here he comes! He’s running.
859
00:39:41,264 --> 00:39:45,396
- You can’t build to a match
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hlike this
860
00:39:45,396 --> 00:39:47,066
and then go for five minutes.
861
00:39:47,066 --> 00:39:49,000
So this became a test of,
\h\h\h\h\h"Okay, now that
862
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:54,000
\h\h\hwe’ve got Hulk Hogan and
the Ultimate Warrior together,
863
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:57,000
can we have these go do
\h\ha 25-minute match?
864
00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:01,066
\h\h\hCan we do a match where
a real story is being told?"
865
00:40:01,066 --> 00:40:03,528
- You can be the adrenaline
\h\h\his already flowing...
866
00:40:03,528 --> 00:40:06,363
- And here we go [inaudible].
867
00:40:06,363 --> 00:40:09,198
- In those bodies.
868
00:40:09,198 --> 00:40:12,132
\h\h\hIt’s deafening
here in the Skydome.
869
00:40:12,132 --> 00:40:14,066
- Warrior learned
a lot from Hulk.
870
00:40:14,066 --> 00:40:15,462
\h\hBut there’s always
that little piece--you
871
00:40:15,462 --> 00:40:20,231
\h\h\h\hwant to be the top dog.
And Warrior was hungry for it.
872
00:40:20,231 --> 00:40:24,363
\h\h\h\h- Look at that!
A slam by the Warrior!
873
00:40:24,363 --> 00:40:26,000
\h\h\h- They both get
their time to shine.
874
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:27,132
- Unbelievable!
875
00:40:27,132 --> 00:40:28,660
Hogan has never had
\h\hanyone do that!
876
00:40:28,660 --> 00:40:31,396
- And they both get that moment
\hwhere, as a fan, you’re like,
877
00:40:31,396 --> 00:40:34,066
"Well, this is the moment
\h\h\h\hwhere Hulk wins."
878
00:40:34,066 --> 00:40:36,462
- Got him with the [inaudible].
\h\h\h\h\h\h- Oh, [inaudible].
879
00:40:36,462 --> 00:40:38,726
\h\h- That moment that
we’ve all seen before.
880
00:40:38,726 --> 00:40:42,462
\h\h\h\h\hHulk Hogan
is hitting the ropes.
881
00:40:42,462 --> 00:40:44,132
He’s dropping a leg.
882
00:40:44,132 --> 00:40:45,759
- Here it is.
\h\h\h\h- Oh!
883
00:40:45,759 --> 00:40:49,132
He moved out of the way!
\h\hLook out [inaudible].
884
00:40:49,132 --> 00:40:50,627
\h\h\h- Two.
- It’s over!
885
00:40:50,627 --> 00:40:57,396
\h- It’s over!
- Unbelievable!
886
00:40:57,396 --> 00:41:00,363
- The Warrior has
\hwon the title!
887
00:41:00,363 --> 00:41:04,000
- Hulk Hogan was still hot
\h\h\h\h[inaudible]. Okay?
888
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,330
When he takes that Warrior pin
\hright in the middle fill out
889
00:41:06,330 --> 00:41:08,264
\hthe ring--no funny
business--and loses,
890
00:41:08,264 --> 00:41:14,726
\h\houtright, to the Warrior,
and makes Warrior king--this
891
00:41:14,726 --> 00:41:17,528
\h\h\h\h\his not the same
as doing that for someone
892
00:41:17,528 --> 00:41:20,528
when you are clearly
\h\hon the way down.
893
00:41:20,528 --> 00:41:21,528
- Oh, look at this!
894
00:41:21,528 --> 00:41:25,726
\h\hHulk presented the belt and
raised the hand of the Warrior!
895
00:41:25,726 --> 00:41:32,264
\h- That was both Hogan and the
company anointing somebody new.
896
00:41:32,264 --> 00:41:37,264
\h\h\h\hAnd it was a major deal
to be able to beat Hulk Hogan.
897
00:41:37,264 --> 00:41:39,528
[cheers and applause]
898
00:41:39,528 --> 00:41:41,660
- I think Jim was idolized.
899
00:41:41,660 --> 00:41:47,066
\h\hThat filled something up
inside of him that he needed.
900
00:41:47,066 --> 00:41:50,231
- Other people, you know,
\h\h\h\h\hthat have said,
901
00:41:50,231 --> 00:41:53,132
\h\h\h\h\h\hyou know, Warrior
never respected the business,
902
00:41:53,132 --> 00:41:55,132
\hyou know, he just wanted
to get in, make a paycheck,
903
00:41:55,132 --> 00:41:58,528
get out--that was not true.
904
00:41:58,528 --> 00:42:00,099
Warrior came back
\hto the curtain
905
00:42:00,099 --> 00:42:01,198
after that match with Hogan,
906
00:42:01,198 --> 00:42:05,000
and completely broke down,
\h\hyou know, emotionally.
907
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:08,660
\h\h\h\hHe was finally at the
very pinnacle of the business
908
00:42:08,660 --> 00:42:12,330
\h\hthat he worked
so hard to get to.
909
00:42:12,330 --> 00:42:16,396
- The fact that I took the belt
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hfrom Hulk
910
00:42:16,396 --> 00:42:17,528
in the way that I did,
911
00:42:17,528 --> 00:42:20,528
with the clean finish--I mean,
912
00:42:20,528 --> 00:42:25,000
the weight of that--you know,
913
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,264
\h\h\h\h\hthat saying about
"It’s not the designation.
914
00:42:27,264 --> 00:42:30,000
It’s the journey"--it’s true
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hfor me.
915
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,264
I was so emotional
after it happened,
916
00:42:32,264 --> 00:42:35,396
\h\h\hbut within a day or two,
I was thinking, "What’s next?"
917
00:42:35,396 --> 00:42:39,363
[cheers and applause]
918
00:42:43,231 --> 00:42:44,594
- At WrestleMania, Warrior,
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hyou lived up
919
00:42:44,594 --> 00:42:46,264
the ultimate challenge,
\h\h\h\hand then some.
920
00:42:46,264 --> 00:42:48,660
But now, you face a challenge
\h\h\h\hof a different kind.
921
00:42:48,660 --> 00:42:53,264
- The Ultimate Warrior title
\h\h\hreign as World Champion
922
00:42:53,264 --> 00:42:57,462
was in some ways actually
the beginning of the end.
923
00:42:57,462 --> 00:43:00,726
- I can feel it!
924
00:43:00,726 --> 00:43:06,264
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hI can feel
that I have been chosen.
925
00:43:06,264 --> 00:43:08,495
- He was pure kinetic energy,
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hright?
926
00:43:08,495 --> 00:43:12,066
And the story that they told
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hwas a missile
927
00:43:12,066 --> 00:43:13,495
being shot into space.
928
00:43:13,495 --> 00:43:16,132
The climb is exhilarating.
929
00:43:16,132 --> 00:43:19,132
\h\h\h\hBut once you get there,
the story just sort of fizzles.
930
00:43:19,132 --> 00:43:21,363
\h- They didn’t set up
the right guys for him.
931
00:43:21,363 --> 00:43:23,462
And it did not get him off
\h\h\h\hon the right foot.
932
00:43:23,462 --> 00:43:26,264
\h\h\hThe first thing they do
is they brought in Rick Rude.
933
00:43:26,264 --> 00:43:27,231
He was a retread.
934
00:43:27,231 --> 00:43:29,330
Warrior had already
beaten him before.
935
00:43:29,330 --> 00:43:31,264
\h\h- He had matches
with the Undertaker.
936
00:43:31,264 --> 00:43:34,363
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- You’re scared,
and you’re going to be scared.
937
00:43:34,363 --> 00:43:38,330
- Wait a minute.
\h- Not in there.
938
00:43:38,330 --> 00:43:39,363
Not in--not in a casket.
939
00:43:39,363 --> 00:43:43,231
- And it ends up going into
\h\hJake the Snake Roberts.
940
00:43:43,231 --> 00:43:45,462
- Huh? What do you think
\h\habout that, Warrior?
941
00:43:45,462 --> 00:43:48,231
Just a few friends
\h\h\hof mine, huh?
942
00:43:48,231 --> 00:43:51,198
- What if I tap the plexiglass?
\h\h\h\h- Here comes a strike.
943
00:43:51,198 --> 00:43:53,528
Here it comes. [inaudible].
944
00:43:56,660 --> 00:43:59,363
- Warrior’s walking around
\h\h\h\hin that locker room
945
00:43:59,363 --> 00:44:00,660
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hwith eyes
in the back of his head.
946
00:44:00,660 --> 00:44:03,627
\h\h\h\h\h\hYou got guys
that are jealous of him.
947
00:44:03,627 --> 00:44:06,627
In front of the cameras,
\h\hin front of the fans,
948
00:44:06,627 --> 00:44:10,198
that was Warrior’s safe haven.
\h\h\hThat was never the issue.
949
00:44:10,198 --> 00:44:15,066
But when he had to walk back
\h\h\hinto that locker room,
950
00:44:15,066 --> 00:44:18,198
\h\h\h\h\hhe knew exactly
what he was dealing with.
951
00:44:18,198 --> 00:44:19,396
That’s where the pressure came.
952
00:44:19,396 --> 00:44:21,066
\h\h- Hang on. Hang on.
- Keep your attention.
953
00:44:21,066 --> 00:44:22,066
Keep his attention.
954
00:44:22,066 --> 00:44:23,627
\h\h\h- Keep his attention.
Here we go. We see him now.
955
00:44:23,627 --> 00:44:26,396
- I don’t think you really know
\h\hif somebody’s up to the job
956
00:44:26,396 --> 00:44:27,528
until they get there, right?
957
00:44:27,528 --> 00:44:29,528
I don’t know what expectations
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hVince had set,
958
00:44:29,528 --> 00:44:32,231
and what the Ultimate Warrior
\h\h\h\hwasn’t living up to.
959
00:44:32,231 --> 00:44:33,660
\hSomething had to be
telling Vince McMahon
960
00:44:33,660 --> 00:44:37,363
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hthat this project
wasn’t succeeding to the degree
961
00:44:37,363 --> 00:44:39,000
that he had hoped
\hthat it would.
962
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:42,099
[cheers and applause]
963
00:44:42,099 --> 00:44:46,132
\h\h- With the scepter
right between the eyes!
964
00:44:46,132 --> 00:44:46,726
- Come on!
965
00:44:46,726 --> 00:44:49,099
- Everyone in the entire
\h\h\h\h\h\hbuilding saw
966
00:44:49,099 --> 00:44:51,000
what the Macho King did.
967
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:52,132
- Immediately, it was like,
968
00:44:52,132 --> 00:44:54,495
okay the decision is to get
\h\hthe belt back on Hogan,
969
00:44:54,495 --> 00:44:56,066
because Warrior didn’t
\h\h\hdraw good enough.
970
00:44:56,066 --> 00:44:57,264
But at the time, I--you know,
971
00:44:57,264 --> 00:44:59,132
I think everybody figured
\h\h\h\h\h\hthat Warrior
972
00:44:59,132 --> 00:45:01,000
\h\hwas gonna be champion
for three or four years,
973
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:02,726
and it was, you know,
less than a full year
974
00:45:02,726 --> 00:45:04,462
before they took it away
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hfrom him.
975
00:45:04,462 --> 00:45:09,462
[crowd chanting]
976
00:45:09,462 --> 00:45:13,627
- Warrior is not going
\h\hto fall into line.
977
00:45:13,627 --> 00:45:18,066
\h\hThis is not somebody
you are going to control,
978
00:45:18,066 --> 00:45:19,264
and they have to know this.
979
00:45:19,264 --> 00:45:23,462
- Jim Hellwig went to the beat
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hof his own drum.
980
00:45:23,462 --> 00:45:25,264
Whatever that beat
\hwas telling him,
981
00:45:25,264 --> 00:45:29,396
whether it was good for him
\h\hor detrimental to him,
982
00:45:29,396 --> 00:45:33,000
\h\h\h\h\hhe went and walked
to the beat of his own drum.
983
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:34,000
- There were times where,
984
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:37,132
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hyou know,
he was completely isolated.
985
00:45:37,132 --> 00:45:39,660
\h\hSometimes he was
just really on edge.
986
00:45:39,660 --> 00:45:41,660
- So, there’s a story
that a kid approaches
987
00:45:41,660 --> 00:45:44,528
Ultimate Warrior in an airport,
\h\h\h\h\h\has most people do.
988
00:45:44,528 --> 00:45:46,000
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hYou know,
that’s half the reason
989
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:47,660
\hVince grabs these guys,
is ’cause when they walk
990
00:45:47,660 --> 00:45:50,264
\h\h\h\h\hthrough an airport,
you can’t look away from him.
991
00:45:50,264 --> 00:45:51,396
- He’s got his sunglasses on,
992
00:45:51,396 --> 00:45:53,099
and this little kid
\hcomes up to him,
993
00:45:53,099 --> 00:45:56,495
\h\h\hand he asks, you know,
if he’s the Ultimate Warrior.
994
00:45:56,495 --> 00:46:00,231
And, like, he snaps
on this little kid.
995
00:46:00,231 --> 00:46:02,726
I was like, "Whoa."
996
00:46:02,726 --> 00:46:06,099
\h\h- This kid’s parents were
pretty connected to the WWE.
997
00:46:06,099 --> 00:46:09,660
That posed a problem for Jim
when Vince heard about this.
998
00:46:09,660 --> 00:46:14,462
\hSo, Vince is so upset that
he makes Jim actually record
999
00:46:14,462 --> 00:46:16,627
a video apology to the kid.
1000
00:46:16,627 --> 00:46:19,363
- It’s Vince Apology.
1001
00:46:22,396 --> 00:46:24,264
\h\h\h\h- What--I mean,
I’m humbly apologizing,
1002
00:46:24,264 --> 00:46:26,462
\h\hbut I’m not saying what
I’m humbly apologizing for.
1003
00:46:26,462 --> 00:46:27,660
- That’s right.
- We know what
1004
00:46:27,660 --> 00:46:30,594
\h\h\h\hthe gimmick’s for,
but I mean, what’s it for?
1005
00:46:30,594 --> 00:46:33,231
- In three, two...
1006
00:46:33,231 --> 00:46:36,660
\h\h\h- I understand that there
comes times in everyone’s life
1007
00:46:36,660 --> 00:46:39,231
\h\hwhen they may regret
certain things--[bleep].
1008
00:46:39,231 --> 00:46:41,396
Regret certain things that
they should--this [bleep]--
1009
00:46:41,396 --> 00:46:44,000
Yeah, I know. I don’t know
\hwhat the [bleep] to say.
1010
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:46,363
I didn’t say nothing
\hto the goddamn kid.
1011
00:46:46,363 --> 00:46:47,396
- Well, no you don’t,
1012
00:46:47,396 --> 00:46:50,132
because I’m [bleep] making
\h\ha videotape to some kid
1013
00:46:50,132 --> 00:46:52,495
about an apology.
1014
00:46:56,528 --> 00:46:58,330
\h\h\h- I’m working here.
There’s two matches left.
1015
00:46:58,330 --> 00:47:00,660
\h\h\hI’m [bleep] working here,
making an apology for something
1016
00:47:00,660 --> 00:47:01,726
I didn’t [bleep] do.
1017
00:47:01,726 --> 00:47:03,726
This guy’s really--whatever
\h\hI should have--whatever
1018
00:47:03,726 --> 00:47:06,099
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hI--supposed
to have said to the guy,
1019
00:47:06,099 --> 00:47:08,099
I wish I had said to the guy.
1020
00:47:08,099 --> 00:47:11,231
\h\h- Me too.
- Three. Two.
1021
00:47:11,231 --> 00:47:16,396
- There shall never come a time
\h\h\hthat any one of the WWF--
1022
00:47:16,396 --> 00:47:18,000
[sighs] Go again.
1023
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:20,660
That I shall take revenge
\h\h\h\hupon that person,
1024
00:47:20,660 --> 00:47:23,528
\hand vanquish them
from this universe.
1025
00:47:23,528 --> 00:47:27,627
And you--[bleep]. Me. [sighs]
1026
00:47:27,627 --> 00:47:31,594
\h\h\hNo one that walks within
the World Wrestling Federation
1027
00:47:31,594 --> 00:47:34,396
shall ever--never offend you
1028
00:47:34,396 --> 00:47:41,396
without answering to the power
\h\h\hof the Ultimate Warrior.
1029
00:47:45,132 --> 00:47:46,264
- But then the very next day,
1030
00:47:46,264 --> 00:47:49,759
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hhe sits down,
and he writes Vince a letter.
1031
00:47:49,759 --> 00:47:51,594
♪ ♪
1032
00:47:51,594 --> 00:47:56,132
\h\h\h- It’s as if years
of frustration and anger
1033
00:47:56,132 --> 00:48:00,132
\h\h\hhave just boiled over,
and he can’t take it anymore.
1034
00:48:03,660 --> 00:48:09,132
- 1991 was a definitive moment
\h\h\h\hin Jim Hellwig’s life.
1035
00:48:09,132 --> 00:48:10,132
[solemn music]
1036
00:48:10,132 --> 00:48:15,660
Around January of 1991, he and
his wife filed divorce papers.
1037
00:48:15,660 --> 00:48:18,528
At the same time,
\hthe WWE decided
1038
00:48:18,528 --> 00:48:21,099
that they were going to go
\hin a different direction.
1039
00:48:21,099 --> 00:48:25,099
And so that same month that
he’s filing divorce papers,
1040
00:48:25,099 --> 00:48:28,363
\h\h\h\h\hhe also loses
his status as champion.
1041
00:48:28,363 --> 00:48:30,099
[cheers and applause]
1042
00:48:30,099 --> 00:48:32,528
- Where’s he going?
1043
00:48:32,528 --> 00:48:34,660
- Going through the divorce,
\h\h\h\h\hneeding the money,
1044
00:48:34,660 --> 00:48:36,627
\h\hall of those things
sort of worked together
1045
00:48:36,627 --> 00:48:40,066
\h\hto reignite some of
that financial anxiety
1046
00:48:40,066 --> 00:48:41,132
that he had as a child.
1047
00:48:41,132 --> 00:48:44,495
A lot of the scars throughout
\h\h\h\h\hJim Hellwig’s life
1048
00:48:44,495 --> 00:48:47,198
\h\h\hare definitely, like,
coming to the surface now.
1049
00:48:47,198 --> 00:48:52,528
- The Ultimate Warrior!
1050
00:48:52,528 --> 00:48:53,594
- You realize that, sure,
1051
00:48:53,594 --> 00:48:56,132
Ultimate Warrior looked like
\h\hhe had never been better,
1052
00:48:56,132 --> 00:48:58,396
but Jim is going through
\h\h\h\h\h\h\ha divorce,
1053
00:48:58,396 --> 00:49:01,000
and Jim is having arguments
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hwith Vince,
1054
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:02,759
and he’s blowing up on fans
\h\h\h\h\h\hat the airport.
1055
00:49:02,759 --> 00:49:05,396
\h\h\h\hAnd you realize that
there’s more to it than that.
1056
00:49:05,396 --> 00:49:07,594
- Ultimate Warrior seemed like
\h\h\h\h\h\hhe was just sort of
1057
00:49:07,594 --> 00:49:09,099
\hat his wit’s end
with Vince, right?
1058
00:49:09,099 --> 00:49:10,528
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hHe’s, like,
"I’ve tried to talk to you.
1059
00:49:10,528 --> 00:49:12,000
I’ve tried to bring
\h\hthis stuff up.
1060
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:15,231
Let me try something else.
I’m gonna write a letter."
1061
00:49:15,231 --> 00:49:18,132
\h\h"Vince, writing this
is a different approach.
1062
00:49:18,132 --> 00:49:21,495
I have been, from day one,
different from the others.
1063
00:49:21,495 --> 00:49:25,198
I have sacrificed myself enough
\h\h\h\h\hboth in personal life
1064
00:49:25,198 --> 00:49:27,726
and physical well-being."
1065
00:49:27,726 --> 00:49:30,495
- What Hellwig says
\h\hto McMahon is,
1066
00:49:30,495 --> 00:49:35,528
"I know what Hogan has gotten,
\h\h\hand that’s what I want."
1067
00:49:35,528 --> 00:49:37,660
- "I have sacrificed more
\h\h\h\h\hthan $500,000,
1068
00:49:37,660 --> 00:49:39,528
more than a million dollars,
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\heven,
1069
00:49:39,528 --> 00:49:42,000
in monies that I should
\hhave been paid to me
1070
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:45,231
\h\h\h\h\h\hin receiving
equal treatment as Hulk."
1071
00:49:45,231 --> 00:49:47,528
- And he proceeds to give
\h\h\h\ha list of demands
1072
00:49:47,528 --> 00:49:49,528
about the things that he wants,
1073
00:49:49,528 --> 00:49:52,759
about equal pay for Hogan,
equal royalties for Hogan.
1074
00:49:52,759 --> 00:49:57,594
\h\h\hHe wants all of the same
benefits that Hulk Hogan gets.
1075
00:49:57,594 --> 00:50:01,231
\h- "The videotaped apology
was the icing on the cake.
1076
00:50:01,231 --> 00:50:04,363
\h\hYou see it as a business,
so whether I like it or not,
1077
00:50:04,363 --> 00:50:05,528
I must do the same.
1078
00:50:05,528 --> 00:50:08,495
\h\h\hWhatever your decision,
I can and will live with it.
1079
00:50:08,495 --> 00:50:13,264
Till then, I remain at home
\h\h\hwith one who cares."
1080
00:50:13,264 --> 00:50:16,363
- Hellwig appears to be saying
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hto Vince,
1081
00:50:16,363 --> 00:50:17,759
"I’m not going to show up
1082
00:50:17,759 --> 00:50:20,627
until you meet these demands."
1083
00:50:20,627 --> 00:50:22,132
That’s a cardinal sin
1084
00:50:22,132 --> 00:50:25,528
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hin the world
of professional wrestling.
1085
00:50:25,528 --> 00:50:29,396
- WWE have not only,
\hin the micro-sense,
1086
00:50:29,396 --> 00:50:32,264
\hspent all this time
marketing SummerSlam,
1087
00:50:32,264 --> 00:50:34,264
but in the macro-sense,
\h\h\h\hall this time,
1088
00:50:34,264 --> 00:50:36,132
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hmarketing
the Ultimate Warrior character.
1089
00:50:36,132 --> 00:50:37,759
Like, they can’t just say,
"All right, we’ll go home.
1090
00:50:37,759 --> 00:50:40,000
We’ll just do it without you."
1091
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:42,066
- No one would take kindly
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hto that.
1092
00:50:42,066 --> 00:50:44,231
But of all the people
\h\h\h\hin the world
1093
00:50:44,231 --> 00:50:49,198
\h\hwho would not take kindly
to essentially being bullied,
1094
00:50:49,198 --> 00:50:52,132
it would be Vince McMahon.
1095
00:50:52,132 --> 00:50:54,396
- When I get this letter,
\h\h\hit’s-it’s a shock.
1096
00:50:54,396 --> 00:50:56,396
\h\h\h\h\hIt’s like, oh.
It’s a kick in the guts.
1097
00:50:56,396 --> 00:50:59,726
Felt like I was burned,
\h\h\h\h\hto so speak.
1098
00:50:59,726 --> 00:51:01,528
\h\h\h\h\hI told Jim
we would work it out,
1099
00:51:01,528 --> 00:51:03,495
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hindicating
that we might do this deal
1100
00:51:03,495 --> 00:51:04,528
that he was looking for.
1101
00:51:04,528 --> 00:51:06,330
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h"Oh, okay.
We’ll talk at the Garden."
1102
00:51:06,330 --> 00:51:09,066
And I couldn’t wait
\h\h\hto fire him.
1103
00:51:09,066 --> 00:51:12,726
\h\h\h\h- What an ovation
for the Ultimate Warrior!
1104
00:51:12,726 --> 00:51:14,198
Is he ready? Yes.
1105
00:51:14,198 --> 00:51:16,627
- Yes, but can he be trusted?
1106
00:51:16,627 --> 00:51:20,000
\h\h- Vince McMahon came into
my locker room, and he said,
1107
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:25,264
\h\h"Well, the Ultimate Warrior
is holding me up for $500,000,
1108
00:51:25,264 --> 00:51:29,231
and he wants to be paid
\hbefore he wrestles."
1109
00:51:29,231 --> 00:51:30,660
[cheers and applause]
1110
00:51:30,660 --> 00:51:34,396
\hThen, through the locker
room door comes Hulk Hogan,
1111
00:51:34,396 --> 00:51:38,099
and he said, "Sarge, you throw
\hthe Warrior out on the floor,
1112
00:51:38,099 --> 00:51:40,396
and I’ll come into the ring,
\h\h\h\hand I’ll jump on you,
1113
00:51:40,396 --> 00:51:42,627
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hand you and I
will head off to the corner.
1114
00:51:42,627 --> 00:51:46,264
\h\h\hAnd while we’re doing
that cheeky, you jump down,
1115
00:51:46,264 --> 00:51:48,132
and you break his leg."
1116
00:51:48,132 --> 00:51:51,396
And Vince went, "No. Whoa.
\h\h\h\h\hWhoa. Whoa. Whoa.
1117
00:51:51,396 --> 00:51:54,660
I don’t need a lawsuit
\hon top of all this."
1118
00:51:54,660 --> 00:51:57,528
- There’s a spot at the end
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hof the match
1119
00:51:57,528 --> 00:52:02,396
where Hellwig grabs a chair
\h\h\h\hand chases Mustafa
1120
00:52:02,396 --> 00:52:06,066
and Adnan out of the ring
\h\h\h\h\hand backstage.
1121
00:52:06,066 --> 00:52:12,264
\h- Warrior’s got a chair.
- As he comes back through,
1122
00:52:12,264 --> 00:52:14,363
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hhe’s told,
"Vince wants to see you,"
1123
00:52:14,363 --> 00:52:19,000
at which point Vince gives him
\h\h\h\ha several-page letter,
1124
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:24,495
talking about how Hulk Hogan
\h\h\h\h\his a living legend.
1125
00:52:24,495 --> 00:52:28,495
"He is more popular than you,
\hhas more years in the ring
1126
00:52:28,495 --> 00:52:30,660
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hthan you,
is in greater demand than you."
1127
00:52:30,660 --> 00:52:33,198
And then he hits Jim
\h\hvery personally.
1128
00:52:33,198 --> 00:52:35,396
He says, "You have become
\h\h\h\h\ha living legend
1129
00:52:35,396 --> 00:52:40,000
in your own mind."
Probably everything
1130
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:43,528
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hthat Jim Hellwig
would not have wanted to hear.
1131
00:52:43,528 --> 00:52:46,528
\h\h\hHe then details
the fact that--"Jim,
1132
00:52:46,528 --> 00:52:51,396
\h\h\h\h\hyou are suspended
for no fewer than 90 days."
1133
00:52:51,396 --> 00:52:55,000
- I think that Vince wrote
\h\hsomething that cutting
1134
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:57,660
\h\h\hbecause I think
Vince felt insulted.
1135
00:52:57,660 --> 00:53:00,495
- It was so, you know,
\h\h\h\h\houtrageous--
1136
00:53:00,495 --> 00:53:03,330
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hthe demand was,
and just so far overreached,
1137
00:53:03,330 --> 00:53:08,759
\h\h\hit told me, obviously,
he really didn’t understand.
1138
00:53:08,759 --> 00:53:12,495
\hOften, our performers will
start believing in themselves
1139
00:53:12,495 --> 00:53:13,660
more than they should,
1140
00:53:13,660 --> 00:53:15,528
\h\h\hand just can’t
separate Jim Hellwig
1141
00:53:15,528 --> 00:53:16,627
from the Ultimate Warrior,
1142
00:53:16,627 --> 00:53:20,000
\h\h\h\h\hand that happens
to a lot of our performers.
1143
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:22,495
- A lot of superstars
\hwant his approval,
1144
00:53:22,495 --> 00:53:26,396
and they want to please him,
and they want to be his guy,
1145
00:53:26,396 --> 00:53:30,132
the way you want your father
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hto accept you.
1146
00:53:30,132 --> 00:53:33,000
- That’s what I feel, I guess,
\h\h\h\h\h\hwith Vince McMahon.
1147
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:36,231
It’s like, when he tells you
\h\h\h\h\hyou did a good job,
1148
00:53:36,231 --> 00:53:39,660
it’s the greatest feeling
\h\h\h\h\h\hin the world.
1149
00:53:39,660 --> 00:53:42,495
- Jim and I had this unusual
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hrelationship,
1150
00:53:42,495 --> 00:53:43,660
you know, personally.
1151
00:53:43,660 --> 00:53:45,528
\hAnd we both were on
the same wavelength.
1152
00:53:45,528 --> 00:53:47,231
\h\h\h\h\hHe was nuts,
and I was at the time.
1153
00:53:47,231 --> 00:53:52,264
\h\hI’m not now. But there was
this great relationship we had.
1154
00:53:52,264 --> 00:53:54,264
No one really knew that.
1155
00:53:54,264 --> 00:53:57,330
- I’m sure he was out there
\h\hlooking for acceptance.
1156
00:53:57,330 --> 00:53:59,066
And he might have looked at him
1157
00:53:59,066 --> 00:54:02,000
\h\h\h\h\has a mother
and a father figure.
1158
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:04,759
And there’s nothing
\hwrong with that.
1159
00:54:09,198 --> 00:54:14,264
\h\h\h- Not as a son.
I have only one son.
1160
00:54:14,264 --> 00:54:16,495
You know, I can see how someone
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hwould look at me
1161
00:54:16,495 --> 00:54:18,396
as a father figure.
1162
00:54:18,396 --> 00:54:20,627
But I don’t look
at him as a son.
1163
00:54:20,627 --> 00:54:23,066
You know, I’ve never done that,
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hyou know.
1164
00:54:23,066 --> 00:54:26,363
\h\h\h\hBut I’ve looked at him
as a relationship that would be
1165
00:54:26,363 --> 00:54:31,594
sort of mirroring somewhat,
\hyou know, of father-son.
1166
00:54:31,594 --> 00:54:34,231
- If you look at somebody
\h\h\h\hlike the Warrior,
1167
00:54:34,231 --> 00:54:36,660
\h\hthat maybe was missing
some male role models early
1168
00:54:36,660 --> 00:54:38,462
\h\h\h\hin his life,
I think Vince McMahon
1169
00:54:38,462 --> 00:54:41,231
could have easily filled
\h\h\hthat role for him.
1170
00:54:41,231 --> 00:54:45,000
\hAnd I don’t know if Vince
realized when he wrote that
1171
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:48,495
that the Ultimate Warrior
\h\h\hwould not take that
1172
00:54:48,495 --> 00:54:52,000
as his boss being mad at him.
1173
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:55,330
\h\hHe may take that
as a paternal figure
1174
00:54:55,330 --> 00:54:58,660
being disappointed in him.
1175
00:54:58,660 --> 00:55:02,660
Your boss being mad at you,
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hyou get over.
1176
00:55:02,660 --> 00:55:05,528
\hSomebody that you look
at like a father saying,
1177
00:55:05,528 --> 00:55:09,099
"I like him more than
\h\h\h\hI like you,"
1178
00:55:09,099 --> 00:55:11,528
you don’t get over that.
1179
00:55:11,528 --> 00:55:13,528
♪ ♪
1180
00:55:17,132 --> 00:55:19,132
\h\h\h\h\h- Good morning, guys.
- The entire world of wrestling
1181
00:55:19,132 --> 00:55:20,198
changed in 1992.
1182
00:55:20,198 --> 00:55:22,066
- The federal government
\h\h\hhas leveled charges
1183
00:55:22,066 --> 00:55:25,660
\h\h\h\hagainst the leader
of the WWF, Vince McMahon.
1184
00:55:25,660 --> 00:55:28,264
\h\h\h- Steroid use,
steroid distribution
1185
00:55:28,264 --> 00:55:30,495
is now deemed not only illegal,
1186
00:55:30,495 --> 00:55:35,132
\h\hbut is being presented
as inauthentic and immoral.
1187
00:55:35,132 --> 00:55:38,660
- A hulk of a hero named Hogan
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\his the biggest
1188
00:55:38,660 --> 00:55:40,660
to take a fall.
1189
00:55:40,660 --> 00:55:43,132
- First queue up.
1190
00:55:43,132 --> 00:55:44,462
This is take one.
1191
00:55:44,462 --> 00:55:46,264
- It makes a certain
\hsort of sense that,
1192
00:55:46,264 --> 00:55:48,495
\h\h\h\h\h\hwhen Hulk Hogan
has to take some time off,
1193
00:55:48,495 --> 00:55:51,660
you go back in the well
\h\h\hand find the guy
1194
00:55:51,660 --> 00:55:53,495
who used to be the next
\h\h\h\h\h\hHulk Hogan.
1195
00:55:53,495 --> 00:55:54,594
- There have been those
1196
00:55:54,594 --> 00:55:56,495
\h\h\hthat have sit
upon many a throne
1197
00:55:56,495 --> 00:56:01,660
and promised to rule the entire
\h\huniverse, the entire world.
1198
00:56:01,660 --> 00:56:06,396
- McMahon decides to bring
\h\h\hthe Ultimate Warrior
1199
00:56:06,396 --> 00:56:08,198
back into the WWE,
1200
00:56:08,198 --> 00:56:13,462
\hand they begin the process
of trying to mend the fences.
1201
00:56:13,462 --> 00:56:18,000
\h- Look at this!
Hulk, Hulk, Hulk!
1202
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:21,132
The insane Sid Justice--
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hHulkamania
1203
00:56:21,132 --> 00:56:24,198
could all end here today
\h\hin the Hoosier Dome.
1204
00:56:24,198 --> 00:56:25,396
- And when that music hit...
1205
00:56:25,396 --> 00:56:27,759
- He don’t have a friend left.
1206
00:56:27,759 --> 00:56:29,198
- Wait a minute!
1207
00:56:29,198 --> 00:56:30,726
- You could hear that stadium
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hfull of people
1208
00:56:30,726 --> 00:56:33,594
going forward nuts for it;
\hthey couldn’t believe it.
1209
00:56:33,594 --> 00:56:35,627
- Can you believe this?
1210
00:56:35,627 --> 00:56:40,660
The Ultimate Warrior
\h\hhas [inaudible].
1211
00:56:40,660 --> 00:56:42,528
- It was still a moment,
and you were still, like,
1212
00:56:42,528 --> 00:56:44,198
"Oh my God, Warrior’s back."
1213
00:56:44,198 --> 00:56:48,363
[cheers and applause]
1214
00:56:48,363 --> 00:56:49,396
But when he comes back,
1215
00:56:49,396 --> 00:56:51,495
\h\hright in the midst
of the steroid scandal,
1216
00:56:51,495 --> 00:56:53,726
he looks noticeably smaller.
\h\h\h\h\hHe’s still jacked.
1217
00:56:53,726 --> 00:56:56,495
I mean, he’s still--by normal
standards, he’s still--like,
1218
00:56:56,495 --> 00:56:59,660
I’m never gonna get a body
like 1992 Ultimate Warrior.
1219
00:56:59,660 --> 00:57:01,627
But he--1992 Ultimate Warrior
1220
00:57:01,627 --> 00:57:04,759
\h\h\hdoes not have a body
like 1990 Ultimate Warrior.
1221
00:57:04,759 --> 00:57:07,363
[tense music]
1222
00:57:07,363 --> 00:57:09,759
\h- He had not been quite
as dedicated, as he was,
1223
00:57:09,759 --> 00:57:11,759
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hto the gym,
probably because he’s coping
1224
00:57:11,759 --> 00:57:14,198
with an extraordinary amount
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hof loss,
1225
00:57:14,198 --> 00:57:17,264
and going through a divorce.
1226
00:57:17,264 --> 00:57:22,660
- Ahh!
1227
00:57:24,726 --> 00:57:26,396
And I remember thinking,
\h\h\h"Man, you gotta get
1228
00:57:26,396 --> 00:57:28,594
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hyour [bleep]
together real quick here."
1229
00:57:28,594 --> 00:57:32,594
[cheers and applause]
1230
00:57:32,594 --> 00:57:37,000
♪ ♪
1231
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:42,495
Ahh!
1232
00:57:44,528 --> 00:57:45,462
- Okay.
1233
00:57:45,462 --> 00:57:48,660
\h\h- In 1992, a package
is intercepted addressed
1234
00:57:48,660 --> 00:57:51,363
to the Ultimate Warrior’s
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hdriver,
1235
00:57:51,363 --> 00:57:55,396
and it contains HGH,
human growth hormone.
1236
00:57:55,396 --> 00:58:00,495
- Explosiveness that can never,
\h\h\h\h\h\hever be recreated.
1237
00:58:00,495 --> 00:58:06,495
\h\hA chemical combustion that
forms a bond forever and ever.
1238
00:58:07,363 --> 00:58:08,495
- Yep. Hellwig did fail tests.
1239
00:58:08,495 --> 00:58:13,198
\hAnd Hellwig also admitted
to it, to taking steroids.
1240
00:58:13,198 --> 00:58:14,396
♪ ♪
1241
00:58:14,396 --> 00:58:17,594
I think it was, more than
\hanything, in his head,
1242
00:58:17,594 --> 00:58:21,594
\hthat "If I don’t have this,
I’ll never be the same guy."
1243
00:58:21,594 --> 00:58:24,264
♪ ♪
1244
00:58:24,264 --> 00:58:25,528
- Every time he takes
\h\h\h\ha drug test,
1245
00:58:25,528 --> 00:58:28,528
\h\h\h\h\hhe has to list
the kinds of medications
1246
00:58:28,528 --> 00:58:30,264
that he’s taking already.
1247
00:58:30,264 --> 00:58:32,627
And at the beginning
\h\hof this process,
1248
00:58:32,627 --> 00:58:38,363
in May, he writes Motrin.
\h\h\h\h\hPretty simple.
1249
00:58:38,363 --> 00:58:42,594
\h\hThe next test, it’s Tylenol
with codeine and a nasal spray.
1250
00:58:42,594 --> 00:58:45,198
By the time we get
\hto late October,
1251
00:58:45,198 --> 00:58:49,066
he’s taking multiple medicines
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hfor anxiety,
1252
00:58:49,066 --> 00:58:52,231
for depression, for insomnia.
1253
00:58:52,231 --> 00:58:56,726
♪ ♪
1254
00:58:56,726 --> 00:59:00,000
[upbeat rock music]
1255
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:05,099
♪ ♪
1256
00:59:05,099 --> 00:59:10,330
\h\h\h\h- Slam, jam,
the Ultimate Warrior.
1257
00:59:10,330 --> 00:59:15,462
\h- In November of that year,
the WWE will fire him again,
1258
00:59:15,462 --> 00:59:19,660
on the grounds that he has
\hviolated the drug policy.
1259
00:59:19,660 --> 00:59:21,132
♪ ♪
1260
00:59:21,132 --> 00:59:22,495
- [bleep], I don’t know.
1261
00:59:22,495 --> 00:59:24,363
It just sort of unraveled,
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hin a way,
1262
00:59:24,363 --> 00:59:26,660
\h\hwhere I remember having
a conversation with Vince,
1263
00:59:26,660 --> 00:59:28,264
and he was afraid
of certain things
1264
00:59:28,264 --> 00:59:29,495
that were gonna happen to him.
1265
00:59:29,495 --> 00:59:33,264
\h\h\h\hIt just got so bad that
he needed a couple scapegoats.
1266
00:59:33,264 --> 00:59:35,396
- Was it implied that you
\h\h\hshould use steroids
1267
00:59:35,396 --> 00:59:37,099
to make yourself--
- No. Never to me.
1268
00:59:37,099 --> 00:59:38,660
I think the whole
\hthing is weak.
1269
00:59:38,660 --> 00:59:41,528
- It was a bad optic
\h\h\h\hto have huge,
1270
00:59:41,528 --> 00:59:43,495
muscle-bound guys on top,
1271
00:59:43,495 --> 00:59:47,264
as you’re fighting off these
\haccusations of steroid use.
1272
00:59:47,264 --> 00:59:50,066
\hPeople like Hulk Hogan
and the Ultimate Warrior
1273
00:59:50,066 --> 00:59:52,099
faded to the background.
1274
00:59:52,099 --> 00:59:54,264
\h\h\hAnd Bret Hart
and Shawn Michaels
1275
00:59:54,264 --> 00:59:57,099
and other guys sort of stepped
\h\h\h\h\h\hinto the spotlight,
1276
00:59:57,099 --> 01:00:01,099
\h\h\h\h\hbecause their look
didn’t sort of remind people
1277
01:00:01,099 --> 01:00:04,264
of what was going on
\hbehind the scenes.
1278
01:00:04,264 --> 01:00:06,627
\h\h\h\h\h- He arrives
in Scottsdale, Arizona.
1279
01:00:06,627 --> 01:00:11,363
Hellwig will legally change
\h\h\hhis name to Warrior.
1280
01:00:11,363 --> 01:00:12,528
\h- He lived the
Ultimate Warrior,
1281
01:00:12,528 --> 01:00:14,132
\h\h\h\h\hhe breathed
the Ultimate Warrior,
1282
01:00:14,132 --> 01:00:16,528
\h\h\h\h\h\hso he believed
he owned Ultimate Warrior.
1283
01:00:16,528 --> 01:00:20,231
\hSo, all you can really do
is try to come up with ways
1284
01:00:20,231 --> 01:00:22,396
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hto stick it
to your former employer.
1285
01:00:22,396 --> 01:00:25,066
\h\h\h- [inaudible]
the mad man’s back.
1286
01:00:25,066 --> 01:00:27,726
\hI’m the Warrior.
You know who I am.
1287
01:00:27,726 --> 01:00:28,627
The rumor has it,
1288
01:00:28,627 --> 01:00:32,495
\h\h\hyou think you’ve got what
it takes to be a pro wrestler.
1289
01:00:32,495 --> 01:00:33,495
- He launched a gym
1290
01:00:33,495 --> 01:00:37,264
\h\h\hand wrestling school
called Warrior University.
1291
01:00:37,264 --> 01:00:40,231
- Warrior University.
1292
01:00:40,231 --> 01:00:43,099
- He wanted to do
\hworkout videos
1293
01:00:43,099 --> 01:00:46,099
and Warrior workout kits.
1294
01:00:46,099 --> 01:00:50,000
- And I saw a new gym
\hwas coming to town,
1295
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:53,099
\h\h\h\hand it was owned
by the Ultimate Warrior.
1296
01:00:53,099 --> 01:00:56,000
\h\h\h\hI had a pink résumé
before Elle Woods ever did.
1297
01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:59,759
And when I walked in the door,
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hall I could see
1298
01:00:59,759 --> 01:01:05,264
\h\h\h\h\hwas the eyeline
to this huge, giant man.
1299
01:01:05,264 --> 01:01:07,000
And I walked with purpose,
\h\h\h\hstraight up to him,
1300
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:09,495
and put the resume down,
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hand I said,
1301
01:01:09,495 --> 01:01:11,132
\h\h\h\h"I need to run
your aerobics program."
1302
01:01:11,132 --> 01:01:13,132
\h\h\h\h\hAnd he said,
"You need to marry me."
1303
01:01:13,132 --> 01:01:16,066
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hAnd I said,
"I won’t even date you."
1304
01:01:16,066 --> 01:01:18,330
[soft music]
1305
01:01:18,330 --> 01:01:21,099
And that man followed me
\h\haround like a puppy,
1306
01:01:21,099 --> 01:01:23,528
until I finally broke down
\h\h\h\h\hand I dated him,
1307
01:01:23,528 --> 01:01:25,528
and then, you know,
\h\hI married him.
1308
01:01:25,528 --> 01:01:28,264
So it worked out okay.
1309
01:01:28,264 --> 01:01:32,330
I had my own demons that--from
\h\h\h\ha difficult childhood.
1310
01:01:32,330 --> 01:01:35,198
And so my husband used
\hto always say to me,
1311
01:01:35,198 --> 01:01:39,000
like, "You tamed the beast."
1312
01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:41,264
I met my counterpart
\hand met the person
1313
01:01:41,264 --> 01:01:43,099
that I was able to do that for,
1314
01:01:43,099 --> 01:01:44,726
\hand he was able
to do it for me.
1315
01:01:44,726 --> 01:01:48,726
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Ah!
- Ultimate Warrior!
1316
01:01:48,726 --> 01:01:52,462
- Warrior.
- Warrior!
1317
01:01:52,462 --> 01:01:57,660
[cheers and applause]
1318
01:01:57,660 --> 01:01:59,066
- I look back at the innocence
1319
01:01:59,066 --> 01:02:00,528
\h\hof who we were
when we first met,
1320
01:02:00,528 --> 01:02:07,198
\hand what my husband really
wanted was to be successful.
1321
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:09,330
- 6:30.
\h6:30.
1322
01:02:09,330 --> 01:02:11,264
- 6:30 in the morning?
1323
01:02:11,264 --> 01:02:13,462
- Where are the pens?
1324
01:02:13,462 --> 01:02:15,099
- Right there.
1325
01:02:15,099 --> 01:02:17,396
- What’s up, buddy?
\h\hHow you doing?
1326
01:02:17,396 --> 01:02:21,198
- He had all these goals
\h\h\h\hand aspirations.
1327
01:02:21,198 --> 01:02:24,099
And what success was
1328
01:02:24,099 --> 01:02:28,231
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hwas, in his mind,
what Vince McMahon had created.
1329
01:02:28,231 --> 01:02:30,198
[indistinct chatter]
1330
01:02:30,198 --> 01:02:32,000
\h- He wanted to make
the Ultimate Warrior
1331
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:34,726
\hinto a full-blown
comic book venture,
1332
01:02:34,726 --> 01:02:37,495
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hto launch
the Warrior mainstream.
1333
01:02:37,495 --> 01:02:42,660
\h\h\hBut he seems to realize
that it’s not going to happen
1334
01:02:42,660 --> 01:02:44,231
without a bigger platform.
1335
01:02:44,231 --> 01:02:48,000
And because of that,
\h\h\h\h\honce again,
1336
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:50,099
Vince McMahon and Jim Hellwig
1337
01:02:50,099 --> 01:02:52,462
somehow find their way
\hback to one another.
1338
01:02:52,462 --> 01:02:55,528
[rock music]
1339
01:02:55,528 --> 01:02:58,264
♪ ♪
1340
01:02:58,264 --> 01:03:00,363
- When you look back now,
1341
01:03:00,363 --> 01:03:03,132
\h\h\h\hthe Warrior’s career
is sort of more about, like,
1342
01:03:03,132 --> 01:03:06,132
returns than it is
about the matches.
1343
01:03:06,132 --> 01:03:10,198
[cheers and applause]
1344
01:03:10,198 --> 01:03:11,099
♪ ♪
1345
01:03:11,099 --> 01:03:15,660
\h\h\h\h- Around June of 1996,
Hellwig’s father, Thomas, dies.
1346
01:03:15,660 --> 01:03:20,132
\h\h\h\h\h\hThe two had not had
much of a relationship at all.
1347
01:03:20,132 --> 01:03:24,231
But it seems to have
\h\h\h\hhit him hard.
1348
01:03:24,231 --> 01:03:28,264
\h\h\h\hIn this period of time,
he doesn’t attend a few shows.
1349
01:03:28,264 --> 01:03:34,198
But of course, with the WWE,
\h\h\h\hyou don’t miss shows.
1350
01:03:34,198 --> 01:03:37,660
- As I recall, he had not seen
\h\hhis dad in over ten years,
1351
01:03:37,660 --> 01:03:39,396
and could care less about him.
1352
01:03:39,396 --> 01:03:41,396
And that was, like,
\h\h"Wait a minute.
1353
01:03:41,396 --> 01:03:43,594
You’re gonna use this
\h\h\has an excuse?"
1354
01:03:43,594 --> 01:03:46,132
That’s the straw that breaks
\h\hthe camel’s back with me.
1355
01:03:46,132 --> 01:03:49,495
\h\h\h\h\hI can’t deal
with anybody like that.
1356
01:03:49,495 --> 01:03:51,660
He was terminated.
1357
01:03:51,660 --> 01:03:53,264
[cheers and applause]
1358
01:03:53,264 --> 01:03:56,231
\h\h- The audience that
was 5, 10, 15 years old
1359
01:03:56,231 --> 01:04:00,495
when Warrior was at his hottest
\h\hhad moved on to be obsessed
1360
01:04:00,495 --> 01:04:04,231
\h\h\h\h\h\hwith other things
besides the Ultimate Warrior.
1361
01:04:04,231 --> 01:04:10,264
\h\h\hSo, when that love and
that adulation wasn’t there,
1362
01:04:10,264 --> 01:04:13,000
he went back to being
\han 11-year-old boy
1363
01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:16,660
in the trailer in Indiana,
whose father just left him.
1364
01:04:16,660 --> 01:04:18,099
[solemn music]
1365
01:04:18,099 --> 01:04:22,330
- He starts traveling around
\h\h\h\hto college campuses.
1366
01:04:22,330 --> 01:04:26,000
One that really stood out--
\h\hit made major headlines
1367
01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:27,726
at the time--was a speech
1368
01:04:27,726 --> 01:04:33,396
he gave at the University
\h\h\h\h\hof Connecticut.
1369
01:04:42,099 --> 01:04:48,132
- I knew something was wrong.
\h- Hey, guys. How you doing?
1370
01:04:48,132 --> 01:04:51,660
\h\h\h- And I said,
"What did you say?"
1371
01:04:51,660 --> 01:04:54,660
"We’ll talk when you get home."
1372
01:04:58,627 --> 01:05:00,132
[indistinct chatter]
1373
01:05:00,132 --> 01:05:01,198
- You know, young kids,
1374
01:05:01,198 --> 01:05:02,528
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hthey get
their philosophy of life
1375
01:05:02,528 --> 01:05:05,132
\h\hfrom people that
are older than them.
1376
01:05:05,132 --> 01:05:08,099
\h\hAnd today, that’s just
not happening in any place.
1377
01:05:08,099 --> 01:05:11,363
- He’s accepted the fact
that the Ultimate Warrior
1378
01:05:11,363 --> 01:05:13,000
is not going to be mainstream.
1379
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:17,759
But it’s almost like he needed
\h\hsomething to fill the void.
1380
01:05:28,660 --> 01:05:34,462
- He finds this new identity
\h\hin conservative ideology.
1381
01:05:34,462 --> 01:05:38,330
\h\h\h\hAnd he becomes
a conservative blogger.
1382
01:05:38,330 --> 01:05:42,495
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- I would argue,
for the Warrior, in his career,
1383
01:05:42,495 --> 01:05:44,099
his persona, his business,
1384
01:05:44,099 --> 01:05:48,264
it was not good that we got
to see behind the curtain.
1385
01:05:48,264 --> 01:05:50,594
Every few weeks or whatever
\h\h\his like another thing
1386
01:05:50,594 --> 01:05:55,660
that Warrior is saying
\h\hthat is offensive.
1387
01:05:55,660 --> 01:06:00,264
♪ ♪
1388
01:06:03,759 --> 01:06:07,264
\h- Most people think I’m
heavy metal or something.
1389
01:06:07,264 --> 01:06:14,264
On the radio, typically,
\h\h\h\hI do talk radio.
1390
01:06:14,264 --> 01:06:15,132
And that’s it.
1391
01:06:15,132 --> 01:06:19,000
\h\h- Turning on talk radio was
a really big thing at the time.
1392
01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:22,660
And, you know something, Rush
Limbaugh is a great showman.
1393
01:06:22,660 --> 01:06:27,066
\h\h\h\hSo my husband’s like,
"Kindreds--we get each other.
1394
01:06:27,066 --> 01:06:29,264
You know"--so, like,
1395
01:06:29,264 --> 01:06:33,000
the talk radio thing became
\ha big thing in our house.
1396
01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:37,660
And, you know, certain news
\hchannels on all the time.
1397
01:06:37,660 --> 01:06:43,000
I think he was just looking
\h\hfor a new brotherhood.
1398
01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:44,330
- It’s never been the vision
1399
01:06:44,330 --> 01:06:45,660
\h\h\hthat people have
in their heads--is that
1400
01:06:45,660 --> 01:06:48,066
it’s just Ultimate Warrior
\h\h\h\h\h\has an identity,
1401
01:06:48,066 --> 01:06:50,198
a painted face pro wrestler
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hwith strings
1402
01:06:50,198 --> 01:06:52,495
\h\h\h\haround his arms
and colorful characters
1403
01:06:52,495 --> 01:06:55,132
\h\h\h\hand a physique
and the body and stuff.
1404
01:06:55,132 --> 01:06:59,132
It’s about--it represents more,
\h\h\h\hon a fundamental level,
1405
01:06:59,132 --> 01:07:02,264
\h\h\hsomething or somebody
that’s willing to stand up
1406
01:07:02,264 --> 01:07:08,363
and fight for what they believe
in, even if they die doing so.
1407
01:07:08,363 --> 01:07:11,396
- And when he came back
\h\h\hfrom that speech,
1408
01:07:11,396 --> 01:07:18,231
\h\hI knew something was wrong.
And I said, "What did you say?"
1409
01:07:18,231 --> 01:07:20,495
- Now, I’m conservative.
1410
01:07:20,495 --> 01:07:23,627
\h\hLiberals believe
in a utopian society,
1411
01:07:23,627 --> 01:07:26,132
where everything is equal.
1412
01:07:26,132 --> 01:07:29,396
\h\h\h\hThat Kwanzaa
is just as legitimate
1413
01:07:29,396 --> 01:07:31,660
as Santa Claus and Christmas.
1414
01:07:31,660 --> 01:07:34,726
[audience exclaiming]
1415
01:07:34,726 --> 01:07:36,528
That a terrorist--
\hthat a terrorist
1416
01:07:36,528 --> 01:07:37,528
is just as legitimate
1417
01:07:37,528 --> 01:07:42,066
\h\has what of this country’s
revolution freedom fighters.
1418
01:07:45,660 --> 01:07:49,198
\h\h- How are they not?
- That the anarchists--
1419
01:07:52,495 --> 01:07:54,132
[laughter]
1420
01:07:54,132 --> 01:07:56,132
\h\h- What’s wrong
with homosexuality?
1421
01:07:56,132 --> 01:07:57,396
- What are you talking about?
1422
01:07:57,396 --> 01:07:59,066
- And from this moment,
1423
01:07:59,066 --> 01:08:03,099
the speech has just become
\h\h\ha straight dogfight.
1424
01:08:03,099 --> 01:08:04,528
- [bleep] you. No. No.
1425
01:08:04,528 --> 01:08:09,528
Apologize for that right now,
you [bleep] piece of [bleep].
1426
01:08:09,528 --> 01:08:11,198
No. Apologize.
1427
01:08:11,198 --> 01:08:14,759
- As an Ultimate Warrior fan,
\h\hyou’re like, "Bro, like,
1428
01:08:14,759 --> 01:08:17,198
I didn’t-I didn’t
sign up for that.
1429
01:08:17,198 --> 01:08:19,726
Like, you’re starting
\h\hto make me think
1430
01:08:19,726 --> 01:08:21,396
\h\h\h\h\hthat the Warrior
might believe in some stuff
1431
01:08:21,396 --> 01:08:25,000
that I don’t necessarily
\h\h\h\h\h\hbelieve in."
1432
01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:28,000
- There’s all people of all
\h\hdifferent type of races
1433
01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:29,132
and colors that look up to you,
1434
01:08:29,132 --> 01:08:31,528
because I--you know, I grew up,
\h\h\hand my dad wasn’t there.
1435
01:08:31,528 --> 01:08:35,264
Well, the Warrior’s telling me,
"Just don’t worry about things.
1436
01:08:35,264 --> 01:08:39,660
Just be that little Warrior
\h\h\hthat you are inside."
1437
01:08:39,660 --> 01:08:44,132
\hSo, when you are acting
that way and you believe
1438
01:08:44,132 --> 01:08:46,462
\h\h\hthat in your heart,
it can do a lot of damage
1439
01:08:46,462 --> 01:08:48,726
\h\h\h\hto those people
that looked up for you.
1440
01:08:48,726 --> 01:08:51,396
- Has anything like UConn
\h\hever happened before?
1441
01:08:51,396 --> 01:08:54,594
- No. Mm-mm.
1442
01:08:54,594 --> 01:08:59,363
- I was really disappointed.
\hI was really disappointed.
1443
01:08:59,363 --> 01:09:00,396
And I let him know that.
1444
01:09:00,396 --> 01:09:07,099
And he knew it was different,
\hand he knew he’d messed up.
1445
01:09:07,099 --> 01:09:10,000
And I don’t even think--
\h\hhe didn’t understand
1446
01:09:10,000 --> 01:09:14,528
the breadth of it
\huntil later on.
1447
01:09:14,528 --> 01:09:16,198
But he knew it was bad.
1448
01:09:16,198 --> 01:09:20,000
\h- "The Self-Destruction
of the Ultimate Warrior."
1449
01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:21,726
- So, WWE puts out this DVD,
1450
01:09:21,726 --> 01:09:24,396
\h\h"The Self-Destruction
of the Ultimate Warrior."
1451
01:09:24,396 --> 01:09:28,528
And this, I think, was kind of
\h\h\h\ha self-serving mission.
1452
01:09:28,528 --> 01:09:30,396
"We’re done making money off
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hthis guy,
1453
01:09:30,396 --> 01:09:31,330
or from this guy,
1454
01:09:31,330 --> 01:09:34,000
and he’s off hurting himself,
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hhis own brand,
1455
01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:35,099
and by extension, our brand.
1456
01:09:35,099 --> 01:09:38,396
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hIf we can limit
his importance in our legacy,
1457
01:09:38,396 --> 01:09:39,396
that’s a win for us.
1458
01:09:39,396 --> 01:09:42,198
If we can charge $30 for it
and put a cool title on it,
1459
01:09:42,198 --> 01:09:43,627
and essentially, you know,
\h\h\h\hmake as much money
1460
01:09:43,627 --> 01:09:46,099
\h\h\h\has we would off of
a WrestleMania, off of Jim,
1461
01:09:46,099 --> 01:09:49,132
\h\h\h\hwithout even having
his consent, even better."
1462
01:09:49,132 --> 01:09:51,528
- And Vince wants these to kind
1463
01:09:51,528 --> 01:09:53,000
of be a shoot deals, right?
1464
01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:54,528
- Yeah, he really does.
1465
01:09:54,528 --> 01:09:55,528
He wants to tell the truth.
1466
01:09:55,528 --> 01:09:57,396
He wants everybody to know.
1467
01:09:57,396 --> 01:09:58,528
- A little controversy?
1468
01:09:58,528 --> 01:10:02,726
[dramatic music]
1469
01:10:02,726 --> 01:10:05,363
\h- "Self-Destruction
of Ultimate Warrior"
1470
01:10:05,363 --> 01:10:07,660
was not so much a documentary.
1471
01:10:07,660 --> 01:10:11,132
It was more of a hit piece.
1472
01:10:11,132 --> 01:10:12,759
You watched it and thought,
1473
01:10:12,759 --> 01:10:14,231
at the very least,
1474
01:10:14,231 --> 01:10:17,066
this guy is not beloved
\h\h\h\h\hby his peers.
1475
01:10:17,066 --> 01:10:19,000
- I don’t know that he was
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hreally born
1476
01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:20,066
to be in this business.
1477
01:10:20,066 --> 01:10:22,660
- To me, the man had no idea
\h\h\h\h\h\habout wrestling.
1478
01:10:22,660 --> 01:10:28,132
\h- Do I think Ultimate Warrior
was merely a flash in the pan?
1479
01:10:28,132 --> 01:10:29,132
Enough said.
1480
01:10:29,132 --> 01:10:32,363
- I knew, when the Ultimate
\h\hWarrior won the match,
1481
01:10:32,363 --> 01:10:35,528
and 68,000 people watched me
\h\h\h\h\hleave the building
1482
01:10:35,528 --> 01:10:39,000
\h\h\h\hinstead of watching
the new champ in the ring--
1483
01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:43,132
I knew that--okay, you know.
1484
01:10:43,132 --> 01:10:45,726
I don’t want to be the one
\h\hto say "I told you so."
1485
01:10:45,726 --> 01:10:50,396
- I never watched that DVD.
1486
01:10:50,396 --> 01:10:53,132
\hPeople would not be alive
if I had watched that DVD.
1487
01:10:53,132 --> 01:10:56,462
My husband wanted to watch it,
\hand I said, "You shouldn’t."
1488
01:10:56,462 --> 01:11:00,198
- He has--doesn’t trust
\h\h\h\hanyone in life.
1489
01:11:00,198 --> 01:11:03,759
And look, if you don’t enjoy
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hcoming to work,
1490
01:11:03,759 --> 01:11:06,000
and then you’re gonna--bound
\h\h\h\h\h\hto self-destruct
1491
01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:07,660
somewhere along the line.
1492
01:11:07,660 --> 01:11:11,000
[solemn music]
1493
01:11:11,000 --> 01:11:12,396
♪ ♪
1494
01:11:12,396 --> 01:11:18,132
- He watched that DVD,
\h\hand that-that broke
1495
01:11:18,132 --> 01:11:22,363
\h\h\h\ha part of my husband
that I was never able to fix.
1496
01:11:22,363 --> 01:11:27,528
- Nobody is gonna hand you
1497
01:11:27,528 --> 01:11:30,132
the fulfillment of the dream
\h\h\h\hyou have in your mind
1498
01:11:30,132 --> 01:11:33,660
\h\h\habout a great live
you want to [bleep] live.
1499
01:11:33,660 --> 01:11:35,000
- In later years, it’s almost
1500
01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:36,660
\h\h\h\has if he will be
frustrated with himself.
1501
01:11:36,660 --> 01:11:39,660
But he will project out on
\hto others the frustration
1502
01:11:39,660 --> 01:11:41,495
he feels with his own life.
1503
01:11:41,495 --> 01:11:44,132
- I think you’re [bleep]
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hpathetic.
1504
01:11:44,132 --> 01:11:50,132
Don’t fail. Take back yourself.
1505
01:11:50,132 --> 01:11:53,198
And don’t take any backtalk
\h\h\h\h\h\hfrom yourself.
1506
01:11:53,198 --> 01:11:58,594
\h\h- I think he was trying to
reinvigorate his own identity,
1507
01:11:58,594 --> 01:12:01,726
because when we fall
\h\h\h\hdown a hole,
1508
01:12:01,726 --> 01:12:04,264
nobody can really
get you back out.
1509
01:12:04,264 --> 01:12:07,726
\h\hYou have to climb,
rung by rung, yourself.
1510
01:12:07,726 --> 01:12:10,264
And he did that.
1511
01:12:10,264 --> 01:12:13,198
♪ ♪
1512
01:12:13,198 --> 01:12:16,462
\h\h\hThat’s so inspiring,
because he wasn’t perfect.
1513
01:12:16,462 --> 01:12:19,264
Other people in the world
\h\h\h\h\haren’t perfect.
1514
01:12:19,264 --> 01:12:21,264
We all mess up.
1515
01:12:21,264 --> 01:12:23,132
And sometimes we’re ignorant.
1516
01:12:23,132 --> 01:12:26,231
But it’s ignorance is educable,
\h\h\h\h\h\hand we can change,
1517
01:12:26,231 --> 01:12:29,627
\hand we can grow,
and we can evolve.
1518
01:12:29,627 --> 01:12:35,000
♪ ♪
1519
01:12:35,000 --> 01:12:37,396
- I was very oblivious
\h\h\h\h\h\hto his life
1520
01:12:37,396 --> 01:12:38,594
before he was a father.
1521
01:12:38,594 --> 01:12:40,528
\h\h\h\h\h\hHe was my dad.
I was daddy’s little girl.
1522
01:12:40,528 --> 01:12:46,198
And he doted on my sister and I
like any other dad that I knew.
1523
01:12:46,198 --> 01:12:47,264
♪ ♪
1524
01:12:47,264 --> 01:12:50,231
\h\h\h- He was so gentle
with his Warrior babies.
1525
01:12:50,231 --> 01:12:52,132
That’s what he’d call us.
1526
01:12:52,132 --> 01:12:53,594
I know that his father wasn’t
1527
01:12:53,594 --> 01:12:55,066
incredibly involved
\h\h\hin his life,
1528
01:12:55,066 --> 01:12:57,462
and so he didn’t really
have that figure there.
1529
01:12:57,462 --> 01:13:00,660
But you don’t necessarily need
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\ha role model
1530
01:13:00,660 --> 01:13:04,099
\hto become the man
you want to become.
1531
01:13:04,099 --> 01:13:08,528
- Very few people can overcome
\h\h\h\hwhat they lived through
1532
01:13:08,528 --> 01:13:14,132
and not feel victimized by it,
but instead chart a new course.
1533
01:13:14,132 --> 01:13:16,264
And that’s what we did
\h\h\hwith our family.
1534
01:13:16,264 --> 01:13:19,264
We charted a new course.
1535
01:13:19,264 --> 01:13:23,132
- What you saw in his character
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hused to translate
1536
01:13:23,132 --> 01:13:24,363
a lot into his workouts.
1537
01:13:24,363 --> 01:13:26,594
\h\h\h\hBut, you know,
most of the time here,
1538
01:13:26,594 --> 01:13:30,264
\h\h\h\hwe got to know
a different character.
1539
01:13:30,264 --> 01:13:31,396
We got to know Warrior.
1540
01:13:31,396 --> 01:13:35,330
And Warrior was a complete
\h\hdifferent personality.
1541
01:13:35,330 --> 01:13:39,726
He made everybody feel special.
\h\h\hHe made me feel special.
1542
01:13:39,726 --> 01:13:43,132
- I think that Warrior found
\h\h\h\hhimself in Santa Fe.
1543
01:13:43,132 --> 01:13:47,396
I think he found a calmer
\h\h\h\h\hsetting for him
1544
01:13:47,396 --> 01:13:49,528
to really think, to paint.
1545
01:13:49,528 --> 01:13:52,132
- Art became a really big part
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hof his life.
1546
01:13:52,132 --> 01:13:55,132
\h\h\hWhen he wasn’t putting
on his face paint every day,
1547
01:13:55,132 --> 01:13:56,462
you know, the face paint
1548
01:13:56,462 --> 01:13:59,726
\h\h\hbecame the paint
on the canvas instead.
1549
01:13:59,726 --> 01:14:03,066
[soft music]
1550
01:14:03,066 --> 01:14:08,462
♪ ♪
1551
01:14:08,462 --> 01:14:10,759
- He had his daughters.
\h\h\h\h\hHe had Dana.
1552
01:14:10,759 --> 01:14:14,462
\h\h\h\h\h\h- Oh my gosh,
it’s so good to see you.
1553
01:14:14,462 --> 01:14:18,759
- You’re our first hug
since all this started.
1554
01:14:18,759 --> 01:14:22,264
- Our friendship was about
\h\h\h\hjust enjoying life.
1555
01:14:22,264 --> 01:14:25,528
Have fun. You are who you are.
1556
01:14:25,528 --> 01:14:30,759
- I think that my husband
\hneeded hypermasculinity
1557
01:14:30,759 --> 01:14:32,000
in order to feel safe.
1558
01:14:32,000 --> 01:14:36,099
But, with the friends that he
made in our town of Santa Fe,
1559
01:14:36,099 --> 01:14:39,594
he was able to experience
\h\h\h\hgrown, adult men,
1560
01:14:39,594 --> 01:14:41,726
who had no vendetta
\h\h\hagainst him.
1561
01:14:41,726 --> 01:14:45,528
And so I think when my husband
\h\h\h\hwas finally ready to be
1562
01:14:45,528 --> 01:14:48,660
inducted in the Hall of Fame,
\h\hhe was becoming somebody
1563
01:14:48,660 --> 01:14:52,759
\h\h\hthat was actually worthy
of that honor in his own mind,
1564
01:14:52,759 --> 01:14:54,660
but also for the fans.
1565
01:14:54,660 --> 01:14:57,396
♪ ♪
1566
01:14:57,396 --> 01:14:59,462
- Ladies and gentlemen,
accompanied to the ring
1567
01:14:59,462 --> 01:15:03,660
\h\h\h\h\hby two yeah ladies
who are special in his life,
1568
01:15:03,660 --> 01:15:07,000
may I present: Warrior.
1569
01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:10,396
[cheers and applause]
1570
01:15:10,396 --> 01:15:14,198
♪ ♪
1571
01:15:17,726 --> 01:15:20,528
[soft music]
1572
01:15:20,528 --> 01:15:23,726
♪ ♪
1573
01:15:23,726 --> 01:15:25,198
- For several years,
1574
01:15:25,198 --> 01:15:30,594
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hthe WWE had tried
to find ways of getting Warrior
1575
01:15:30,594 --> 01:15:36,528
\h\h\h\hinto the Hall of Fame,
and he had repeatedly said no.
1576
01:15:36,528 --> 01:15:39,594
- This particular year,
\hfor whatever reason,
1577
01:15:39,594 --> 01:15:42,396
Warrior was able to trust.
1578
01:15:42,396 --> 01:15:46,396
\h\hAnd I said, "I apologize
for anything I’ve ever said,
1579
01:15:46,396 --> 01:15:47,495
anything I’ve ever done.
1580
01:15:47,495 --> 01:15:50,726
That was then. Let’s just bury
\h\h\hthe hatchet and move on."
1581
01:15:50,726 --> 01:15:54,594
\h- I just can’t believe it’s
been as long as it has been.
1582
01:15:54,594 --> 01:15:57,231
- He enters into an agreement
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hwith the WWE
1583
01:15:57,231 --> 01:16:00,330
\h\h\h\hto become an ambassador
for a period of several years.
1584
01:16:00,330 --> 01:16:02,396
- Obviously, there
\hwas some tension
1585
01:16:02,396 --> 01:16:05,330
with the relationship with WWE
\hthrough the years, you know.
1586
01:16:05,330 --> 01:16:07,363
I mean, what does it mean
\h\h\hto kind of be back
1587
01:16:07,363 --> 01:16:11,726
\h\h\h\h\h\hinto the fold
and kind of repair those?
1588
01:16:11,726 --> 01:16:18,231
- Well, it means a--well,
\h\h\h\h\hit means a lot.
1589
01:16:18,231 --> 01:16:21,000
You know, it was purposeful
that they put the DVD out.
1590
01:16:21,000 --> 01:16:27,264
It hurt my feelings a lot, man.
It hurt me that they did that.
1591
01:16:27,264 --> 01:16:31,363
♪ ♪
1592
01:16:31,363 --> 01:16:35,396
\h\h\hYou know, I have a lot
of emotion about coming back.
1593
01:16:35,396 --> 01:16:38,528
\h\h- It’s well-known
that the Hellwig men
1594
01:16:38,528 --> 01:16:40,264
had a short life span.
1595
01:16:40,264 --> 01:16:43,132
His grandfather died
\h\h\h\h\hin his 50s.
1596
01:16:43,132 --> 01:16:45,198
His father died in his 50s.
1597
01:16:45,198 --> 01:16:50,066
And knowing that most of the
Hellwig boys died a young age
1598
01:16:50,066 --> 01:16:54,000
definitely has to color
how you live your life.
1599
01:16:54,000 --> 01:16:57,660
\h\h\h\hYou either face it
or you live in fear of it.
1600
01:16:57,660 --> 01:17:02,462
- Great. Get that down...
\h\h\h\h\h\h[indistinct]
1601
01:17:02,462 --> 01:17:07,000
- I think it was calculated,
on his part, because he knew
1602
01:17:07,000 --> 01:17:12,000
\h\h\h\h\h\hthat by reigniting
this relationship with the WWE,
1603
01:17:12,000 --> 01:17:15,660
\h\h\hhe can be the man that
his father never was for him.
1604
01:17:15,660 --> 01:17:21,066
\h\hThis was his moment
to set aside the hurt,
1605
01:17:21,066 --> 01:17:22,396
the ego, the pride,
1606
01:17:22,396 --> 01:17:27,099
\h\hall of the things that had
kept him estranged, and to say,
1607
01:17:27,099 --> 01:17:30,495
"I’m going to do this
\h\h\hfor my family."
1608
01:17:30,495 --> 01:17:33,066
♪ ♪
1609
01:17:33,066 --> 01:17:34,000
- You built a brand.
1610
01:17:34,000 --> 01:17:36,462
These are the graphics
that support the brand.
1611
01:17:36,462 --> 01:17:41,066
- There are few legitimately
\htough guys in our business.
1612
01:17:41,066 --> 01:17:44,264
\h\h\hMost of us aren’t.
So we get to go out there
1613
01:17:44,264 --> 01:17:46,627
and we get to act
like tough guys.
1614
01:17:46,627 --> 01:17:50,000
\h\h\hAnd people look to you,
and you’re larger than life.
1615
01:17:50,000 --> 01:17:51,759
There’s responsibility
\hthat comes with that.
1616
01:17:51,759 --> 01:17:55,396
Responsibility is that,
if you get to do that,
1617
01:17:55,396 --> 01:17:57,264
you get that opportunity
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hto do that,
1618
01:17:57,264 --> 01:18:00,000
\h\hthen you should be able
to go out in the real world
1619
01:18:00,000 --> 01:18:04,066
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hand handle
a simple thing like life.
1620
01:18:19,660 --> 01:18:21,528
- Yeah.
1621
01:18:24,594 --> 01:18:27,396
\h- Really want you to know
I’ve been dying to see you.
1622
01:18:27,396 --> 01:18:31,594
I really do. I really do.
\h\h\h\h\hNo matter what.
1623
01:18:31,594 --> 01:18:35,066
- I think he was just really
\h\h\h\h\hexcited to go home.
1624
01:18:35,066 --> 01:18:39,528
\h\h\hAnd absolutely, he wanted
that reconciliation with Vince,
1625
01:18:39,528 --> 01:18:41,726
because Vince mattered to him.
1626
01:18:41,726 --> 01:18:44,198
But he also wanted
\h\hto show Vince,
1627
01:18:44,198 --> 01:18:49,066
\h"I have family now, too.
And now you’re part of it.
1628
01:18:49,066 --> 01:18:52,231
I don’t need you
to be all of it."
1629
01:18:52,231 --> 01:18:55,396
- Ladies and gentlemen,
accompanied to the ring
1630
01:18:55,396 --> 01:18:59,132
\h\h\h\h\h\hby two young ladies
who are so special in his life,
1631
01:18:59,132 --> 01:19:02,264
may I present: Warrior.
1632
01:19:02,264 --> 01:19:06,198
[cheers and applause]
1633
01:19:06,198 --> 01:19:09,264
[soft music]
1634
01:19:09,264 --> 01:19:14,132
♪ ♪
1635
01:19:14,132 --> 01:19:17,363
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- In 1991,
Vince wrote me a letter.
1636
01:19:17,363 --> 01:19:21,495
He said, "You think you’re
a legend in your own mind."
1637
01:19:21,495 --> 01:19:24,330
\h\h\h\h\h\hBut I didn’t think
that I was a legend in my mind.
1638
01:19:24,330 --> 01:19:26,099
But I will tell you this,
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hVince,
1639
01:19:26,099 --> 01:19:29,066
the Ultimate Warrior
\his a legend today,
1640
01:19:29,066 --> 01:19:31,759
\hand he will continue
to run into the hearts
1641
01:19:31,759 --> 01:19:36,396
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hand minds of fans
throughout generations to come.
1642
01:19:36,396 --> 01:19:37,660
And I’m proud of that.
1643
01:19:37,660 --> 01:19:39,528
I’m proud of you
for supporting me
1644
01:19:39,528 --> 01:19:41,396
\h\h\h\h\h\hand fighting
for the Ultimate Warrior
1645
01:19:41,396 --> 01:19:43,660
\h\h\h\hto be inducted
into the Hall of Fame.
1646
01:19:43,660 --> 01:19:47,396
[cheers and applause]
1647
01:19:47,396 --> 01:19:49,660
♪ ♪
1648
01:19:49,660 --> 01:19:51,231
- Regardless of personal stuff,
1649
01:19:51,231 --> 01:19:53,264
\hregardless of what you see
on the internet of anything,
1650
01:19:53,264 --> 01:19:54,627
\h\h\h\h\h\hjust, like,
we’re now all grownups.
1651
01:19:54,627 --> 01:19:57,099
\h\h\h\h\h\hWe’re nostalgically
looking at this guy like, "Yes.
1652
01:19:57,099 --> 01:20:00,132
\h\h\hThis is--when I was six,
this is the guy I was watching.
1653
01:20:00,132 --> 01:20:02,264
I’m so happy he’s back."
1654
01:20:02,264 --> 01:20:04,660
- From the moment he ran on
\h\h\h\h\hto WWE television
1655
01:20:04,660 --> 01:20:08,000
\h\h\htill he, you know,
took the belt from Hogan,
1656
01:20:08,000 --> 01:20:10,330
hold that up against
\h\h\h\hany wrestler
1657
01:20:10,330 --> 01:20:11,396
in the history of wrestling.
1658
01:20:11,396 --> 01:20:12,660
\h\h\h\h\hThat’s what
we were celebrating.
1659
01:20:12,660 --> 01:20:15,495
I mean, I was there on Monday
Night Raw, when he came out.
1660
01:20:15,495 --> 01:20:20,099
And I’ve never been in a crowd
\h\h\h\h\hthat felt like that.
1661
01:20:20,099 --> 01:20:22,000
♪ ♪
1662
01:20:22,000 --> 01:20:25,330
\h\h\h- There you go.
There’s the Warrior.
1663
01:20:25,330 --> 01:20:29,066
[cheers and applause]
1664
01:20:29,066 --> 01:20:34,396
all: Warrior! Warrior! Warrior!
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hWarrior! Warrior!
1665
01:20:34,396 --> 01:20:36,264
- This is gonna be great.
1666
01:20:36,264 --> 01:20:41,726
[cheers and applause]
1667
01:20:41,726 --> 01:20:44,528
- Every man’s heart one day
1668
01:20:44,528 --> 01:20:46,396
beats its final beat.
1669
01:20:46,396 --> 01:20:49,132
\hHis lungs breathe
their final breath.
1670
01:20:49,132 --> 01:20:51,495
And if what that man
\h\h\hdid in his life
1671
01:20:51,495 --> 01:20:55,198
\h\h\hmakes the blood pulse
through the body of others,
1672
01:20:55,198 --> 01:20:57,660
it makes them believe deeper
1673
01:20:57,660 --> 01:21:00,132
in something than larger
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hthan life,
1674
01:21:00,132 --> 01:21:06,264
then his essence, his spirit,
\h\h\h\hwill be immortalized.
1675
01:21:06,264 --> 01:21:08,198
You. You. You.
1676
01:21:08,198 --> 01:21:13,330
You are the legend-makers
\h\hof Ultimate Warrior.
1677
01:21:13,330 --> 01:21:14,660
[cheers and applause]
1678
01:21:14,660 --> 01:21:20,495
- Finally, Jim had understood
\h\h\hhow it all worked then.
1679
01:21:20,495 --> 01:21:22,462
And that may be,
as far as I know,
1680
01:21:22,462 --> 01:21:25,396
about the only time he’s ever
\h\hbeen peace with himself.
1681
01:21:25,396 --> 01:21:28,000
He so appreciated the honor,
\h\h\h\h\hand what have you.
1682
01:21:28,000 --> 01:21:30,000
And unfortunately, uh...
1683
01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:32,726
[solemn music]
1684
01:21:32,726 --> 01:21:35,264
A couple days later, he died.
1685
01:21:35,264 --> 01:21:42,495
♪ ♪
1686
01:21:46,627 --> 01:21:49,396
- Just, everything
\h\h\hfelt so good.
1687
01:21:49,396 --> 01:21:52,495
My kids are so proud
\h\h\h\hof their dad.
1688
01:21:52,495 --> 01:21:56,627
We were gonna go to Arizona
\h\hand have spring break.
1689
01:21:56,627 --> 01:21:59,660
And we got on a plane
\h\hto go to Phoenix,
1690
01:21:59,660 --> 01:22:04,132
and we get to the hotel,
\h\h\h\h\h\hand he said,
1691
01:22:04,132 --> 01:22:06,132
\h\h\h\h"I don’t-I don’t
feel-I don’t feel good."
1692
01:22:06,132 --> 01:22:07,627
I said, "I know, babe.
\h\h\h\h\hNeither do I.
1693
01:22:07,627 --> 01:22:09,627
\h\hLike, it’s been
a--this is hectic.
1694
01:22:09,627 --> 01:22:11,528
It’s gonna be fine.
\h\hYou just rest.
1695
01:22:11,528 --> 01:22:13,264
\h\h\h\hWhat do you need?
I’ll go get it for you?"
1696
01:22:13,264 --> 01:22:15,264
Like, he’s like, "No.
\hI don’t feel good."
1697
01:22:15,264 --> 01:22:17,660
And he said, "I think I need
\h\h\hto go to the hospital."
1698
01:22:17,660 --> 01:22:23,099
And that’s where I was like,
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h"Oh no."
1699
01:22:23,099 --> 01:22:24,759
♪ ♪
1700
01:22:24,759 --> 01:22:27,099
And I didn’t--I didn’t want
\h\h\h\hthe girls to come,
1701
01:22:27,099 --> 01:22:29,759
’cause I didn’t want them
\h\h\h\h\h\hto be scared.
1702
01:22:29,759 --> 01:22:33,000
So, they were old enough
\h\h\h\hto lock the door.
1703
01:22:33,000 --> 01:22:36,396
♪ ♪
1704
01:22:36,396 --> 01:22:41,495
It was one second before
\h\hwe were out the door.
1705
01:22:41,495 --> 01:22:43,000
♪ ♪
1706
01:22:43,000 --> 01:22:45,660
And he just...
1707
01:22:45,660 --> 01:22:46,528
[sighs]
1708
01:22:46,528 --> 01:22:51,660
Like--like an oak tree.
1709
01:22:51,660 --> 01:22:53,627
[somber music]
1710
01:22:53,627 --> 01:22:56,363
And I couldn’t catch him.
1711
01:22:56,363 --> 01:22:58,066
♪ ♪
1712
01:22:58,066 --> 01:23:02,132
\h\hSo, we get to the hospital,
and they wheel him back there.
1713
01:23:02,132 --> 01:23:06,330
\h\h\hAnd they said,
"He didn’t make it."
1714
01:23:06,330 --> 01:23:09,759
♪ ♪
1715
01:23:09,759 --> 01:23:15,264
And I also knew, like, I was
\hgonna have to tell my kids.
1716
01:23:15,264 --> 01:23:18,264
And I left them at the hotel,
1717
01:23:18,264 --> 01:23:21,462
\hat the last--thinking
I was protecting them.
1718
01:23:21,462 --> 01:23:26,528
\h\hBut then, did I rob them of
the last moment with their dad?
1719
01:23:26,528 --> 01:23:30,528
[sobbing]
1720
01:23:30,528 --> 01:23:37,726
♪ ♪
1721
01:23:38,759 --> 01:23:43,363
- What he built at home
\h\h\h\hwas far greater
1722
01:23:43,363 --> 01:23:46,462
\h\h\h\hthan anything
the Ultimate Warrior
1723
01:23:46,462 --> 01:23:51,528
\h\h\h\h\hachieved in front
of the television cameras.
1724
01:23:51,528 --> 01:23:54,000
That’s the tragedy
of the man’s life.
1725
01:23:54,000 --> 01:23:56,264
When he finally found the love
1726
01:23:56,264 --> 01:23:59,264
that he couldn’t find
\h\h\h\h\has a child,
1727
01:23:59,264 --> 01:24:02,396
and he had nothing
\h\h\hleft to hate,
1728
01:24:02,396 --> 01:24:06,363
that’s when his heart gave up.
1729
01:24:06,363 --> 01:24:07,759
- You know, I mean,
I can remember back
1730
01:24:07,759 --> 01:24:09,330
when I was a young kid,
1731
01:24:09,330 --> 01:24:11,132
being the kid in the wrong
\hplace at the wrong time,
1732
01:24:11,132 --> 01:24:13,660
my dad leaving when I was 12,
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h13 years old,
1733
01:24:13,660 --> 01:24:15,594
having self-doubts
\h\h\habout myself,
1734
01:24:15,594 --> 01:24:17,198
like any young kid does.
1735
01:24:17,198 --> 01:24:23,132
You create your own sort
\hof fantasy--protector,
1736
01:24:23,132 --> 01:24:24,198
in a sense, you know?
1737
01:24:24,198 --> 01:24:26,066
The thing that you connect with
\h\h\h\h\h\hto make you strong,
1738
01:24:26,066 --> 01:24:32,231
\h\h\h\h\hto-to get you through
the self-doubts that you have.
1739
01:24:32,231 --> 01:24:36,066
- His daughters are definitely
\h\h\h\h\h\hhis lasting legacy.
1740
01:24:36,066 --> 01:24:40,000
He was never more proud
of anything in his life
1741
01:24:40,000 --> 01:24:41,396
than his girls.
1742
01:24:41,396 --> 01:24:44,264
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hAnd he wanted
both of them--which they do--
1743
01:24:44,264 --> 01:24:46,528
to have that warrior spirit.
1744
01:24:46,528 --> 01:24:49,726
- There’s nothing simple
\h\h\habout Jim Hellwig.
1745
01:24:49,726 --> 01:24:53,132
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hHe was a flawed
and complicated human being,
1746
01:24:53,132 --> 01:24:56,528
who made some serious
mistakes in his life.
1747
01:24:56,528 --> 01:24:58,462
♪ ♪
1748
01:24:58,462 --> 01:25:01,330
But it’s a human story.
1749
01:25:01,330 --> 01:25:02,660
- Having done Ultimate Warrior
1750
01:25:02,660 --> 01:25:04,660
as a sports entertainment
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hidentity,
1751
01:25:04,660 --> 01:25:08,132
why I think the way I do,
\h\h\hit’s built into us.
1752
01:25:08,132 --> 01:25:09,759
It’s a part of our nature.
1753
01:25:09,759 --> 01:25:15,066
It’s a part of our human nature
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hto grow.
1754
01:25:15,066 --> 01:25:16,396
[soft music]
1755
01:25:16,396 --> 01:25:18,594
- I think redemption
\h\his a heavy burden
1756
01:25:18,594 --> 01:25:21,000
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hto place
on any one human being,
1757
01:25:21,000 --> 01:25:23,462
because we’re all on a journey
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hto find out
1758
01:25:23,462 --> 01:25:27,594
who it is that we are.
1759
01:25:27,594 --> 01:25:30,396
\h\h\h\hI don’t believe
that my husband’s story
1760
01:25:30,396 --> 01:25:33,099
ends with his passing.
1761
01:25:33,099 --> 01:25:37,000
I believe that that spirit
\h\hof the warrior lives on
1762
01:25:37,000 --> 01:25:42,462
in each and every one of us
\hwho decides to do better.
1763
01:25:42,462 --> 01:25:45,759
♪ ♪
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