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- That way he’s standing,
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I mean, it looks like
it’s higher, right?
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Because you do that
from the second rope.
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Boom!
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This job to me is the greatest
life that I could ever live.
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For years people told me
\h\h\h\hI was too small,
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that I couldn’t do this
and I couldn’t do that
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and I wasn’t going to make it.
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And I’ve shoved it
in everybody’s face.
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No time-outs in this, man.
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I realize I can’t be popular
with everybody all the time.
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So in the meantime, I’m going
to be popular with me,
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and I’m going to be the best.
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- There are definitely
two lives of Shawn Michaels.
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\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hYou know,
there’s who he was before...
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- You will not ever
in your lives
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see a man more charismatic,
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more flamboyant,
or more talented
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than the Heartbreak Kid
\h\h\h\hShawn Michaels.
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- The greatest in-ring
performer of all time.
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\h\h\h\h\hBeing a prick
comes natural to Shawn.
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\h\h\h\hIt did.
He was a dick.
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\h\h\h\h\h- The showstopper,
the headliner, the main event.
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- There was so much
bad blood between us,
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\h\h\h\hand I was always like,
"If I see him, I’ll kill him."
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I had so much anger about it.
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- Nobody steals my spotlight.
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hI want it all.
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\h\h\h\h\h\h- Shawn Michaels
could do absolutely anything,
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any style to perfection
\h\h\h\h\hwith anyone.
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\h\h\h\hWhen the bell rings,
no one is as good as Shawn.
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- I will give you a show
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like you have never ever
\h\h\h\h\h\hseen before.
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\h\h\h\h\hWhy?
Because I can.
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\h\h\h\h\h- The only man
to win every major title.
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\h\h\h\h- You can’t say anybody
was better, but also tormented.
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\h\h\h\hHe was, like,
on self-destruct mode.
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\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- I just knew
that he didn’t love himself.
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There was something
in him that he despised.
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- If you’re taking pain pills
at 12 in the afternoon,
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belligerent, falling down,
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hstaggering,
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\h\h\h\h\h\h\heverything that
you have in your life is this.
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And it’s all going away.
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- On more than one occasion,
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I really wanted to beat
the hell out of Shawn,
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but I knew there was
\h\h\h\h\ha good man
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behind all this other crap.
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- The biggest thing
that he ever did
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is turning
his life around
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to where he is now.
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\h\h\h\h\h- And so, yep,
there are two lives there.
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But there’s one Shawn Michaels.
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- The very best sports
\hentertainer in the world.
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[rock music plays]
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[tense music]
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- I love it. I say this.
\h\h\h\hI say we--again--
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Vince used to always tell me
"You go all the way out there,
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I’ll reel you back in
if I want to,"
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you know what I mean?
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- NXT started out
as a developmental brand
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that grooms WWE superstars.
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- Any kind of count up, DQ,
or whatever ends the match.
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- There’s Shawn’s fingerprints
in almost every talent in NXT.
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Shawn is very hands on.
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- Then he sits up behind him
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hand then whack!
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- He sold out arenas
\hall around the world
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\h\h\h\hwhen he was
the Heartbreak Kid.
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He’s in a different place
\h\h\h\hin his life now.
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He’s humble, he wants
to be behind the scenes.
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It isn’t about him.
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He wants to help others
achieve their dreams.
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You’ve got to say it
with passion and anger.
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- Here we go, guys,
\hthree, two, one.
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- Seeing Shawn today,
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it’s sometimes hard
for people to believe
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that’s Shawn Michaels.
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Certain levels of talent
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command certain levels
\h\h\h\h\hof respect.
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- Just attack
of Johnny Gargano.
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- Oh, jeez.
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- I added the plexiglass.
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\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- His knowledge
and his wisdom of the business
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and all that stuff,
it’s so valuable.
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So excellent job.
Yeah, go, you got this.
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- Shawn Michaels’ life
\h\h\h\h\h\h\his a story
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that a lot of people
could relate to.
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He always wanted more.
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It was a life of never enough.
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\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hAnd then,
his life totally changes.
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A lot of us have that,
if we’re lucky.
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I think the Shawn Michaels
story is one that’s really cool
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and one that all of us
can stand to learn from.
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[twangy guitar]
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\h\h\h\h\h- I was born
into a military family.
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My father was
in the Air Force.
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\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hIt was
Michael Shawn Hickenbottom,
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but everybody in my family
\h\h\h\h\hcalled me Shawn.
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My father was a pilot,
so early on we moved a lot.
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He was going to Vietnam.
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We went to England,
then Maryland
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and then we moved to Texas.
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I was about eight-ish.
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\h\h\h\hFrom that point on,
I was in the state of Texas.
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You don’t have long-lasting
friendships in the Air Force.
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The hardest part
for making friends
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was having the last name.
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The roll call, Hickenbottom,
\h\h\h\hMichael Hickenbottom.
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You could hear the snickers
\h\h\h\hall over the room.
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Hickenbottom. And, of course...
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It’s like, "Son of a biscuit,
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\h\h\h\h\hI wish I had
a different last name."
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- Shawn was well-loved.
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He was always very quiet
and very shy growing up.
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He wasn’t an extrovert.
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t a good, friendly,
nice little boy.
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And people liked him.
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He was involved in sports
\h\h\h\h\hall of his life.
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He just enjoyed
doing everything.
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- I was a big fan
\hof playing football,
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because of the contact.
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You know, contact and athletics
\h\h\h\h\hwere appealing to me.
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And then I’m 12 years old,
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getting to stay up late
on a Saturday night,
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and this wrestling show
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hstarts.
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\h\h\h\h\h\h\hSouthwest
Championship Wrestling.
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The beginning montage,
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the guy is slow motion
jumping off the top rope.
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I was enthralled in it.
It was just--[laughs]
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\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hI don’t know,
the neatest thing I ever saw.
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- The best in professional
\h\h\h\hwrestling and I’m--
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- After the show,
I walked out
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and my mom was in the kitchen.
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I said, "I know what I’m
going to do when I grow up."
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And she said, "What’s that?"
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I said, "I’m going to be
a professional wrestler."
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\h\h\h\h\h\hShe was like,
"Oh, that’s nice, honey."
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- He began to talk about
\hthat’s what he wanted to do,
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and I was sure that ultimately
he would grow out of that,
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but he never did.
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- Down at the Freeman Coliseum,
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Shawn would periodically
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hget to go,
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\h\h\h\h\h\h\hand, oh,
he saw Tully Blanchard.
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\h\h\h\h\h\h- Wahoo McDaniel,
Eddie Mansfield, Scott Casey.
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- Of course, then later,
\hRic Flair was a wrestling god,
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and he would buy
wrestling magazines,
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and he would look
at Ric Flair,
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and then he would
stand in the mirror,
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and try to talk like him
and look like him.
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- Being a wrestling fan,
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it was really a black sheep
\h\h\h\h\hsource of mockery.
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It’s not something you say
with a great deal of pride.
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It was just a relationship
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between me and wrestling
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hfor a while
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\h\h\h\h\h\hand my dad
was an amateur wrestler
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at the University of Iowa,
so he was a real wrestler.
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And, of course, he just gave
some gruff like, "That’s fake."
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\h\h\h\hThe kindest thing
I could say about it was
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I considered it to be
an athletic soap opera,
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which has always been
my description
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of professional wrestling.
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- Then a new kid
gets transferred.
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His name is Kenny Kent.
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I met Shawn the summer of 1980.
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We were sophomores
in high school. Both 15.
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He would want to wrestle
and throw around his friends,
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and they didn’t like it.
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And so I instantly became
his little tag team partner
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and we would just
bash each other
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and throw each other around,
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and that’s really what
developed our friendship.
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- They’d practice out
\hin the pool. Frightening.
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[laughs]
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Shawn would lift him
straight him, Kenny,
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and then they’d fall
into the pool.
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His way of practicing.
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- Shawn dreamed
\hof wrestling.
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He would call me and
tell me these matches
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that he would lay out
\h\h\h\hand prepare.
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He was really obsessed with it.
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[crowd cheering]
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\h\h\h\h\h\h- In that time,
you struggled back and forth
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with people who are
telling you it’s fake,
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\h\h\h\h\hbut I am there
watching the guy--whap!
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I mean, hitting the guy
and sweat’s flying off.
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There’s something to it.
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\h\h\h\hThey’ve got me
hook, line, and sinker.
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- We were a very small school.
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We did not have
a wrestling team.
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But our senior year,
we had a talent show
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and it was Shawn’s idea
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that me and him were gonna
do a wrestling match.
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Everything was going
\h\h\h\h\hquite well
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\h\h\h\h\huntil I threw Shawn
off the stage into the crowd,
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and beat his head on the table
\h\h\h\h\h\ha couple of times.
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There was just blood gushing
\h\h\h\h\hall over his head.
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And people are going nuts.
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- I think we came in second.
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hWe didn’t win.
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\h\h\h\h\h\h- We got beat
by a group of cheerleaders
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so, you know, two guys
in little tightie whities
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\h\h\h\hversus cheerleaders,
they’re gonna win every time.
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- We graduate,
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\h\h\h\h\h\hand then it’s
"What are you gonna do?"
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Well, have you decided
\h\h\h\hwhat you want?"
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"I still want
to be a wrestler."
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I recognized that I said it
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hwhen I was 12,
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\h\h\h\h\hbut it’s just been
a big, big part of my life.
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Okay, that’s awesome.
That’s not a possibility.
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- But, you know, at 17,
\hyou look at him and you think
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\h\h\h\h\h\hyou don’t know
what you’re talking about.
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\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hWe said,
"You’re going to college."
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\h\h\h\h\h\h- There wasn’t
a lot of open understanding
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in what I was doing.
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- We went off to Southwest
\hTexas State University.
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When we lived together
\h\h\h\h\hat college,
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there were many nights
I would hear him
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and he’s standing there
with his shirt off
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\h\h\h\h\hand he’d be talking
and screaming at the mirror,
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practicing.
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\h\h\h\h\h\hAt the end
of his second semester,
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I think his GPA was 0.4.
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School just wasn’t for him,
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and he was ready to make his
move into the wrestling world.
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- Essentially, he said,
224
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"I don’t want to waste anymore
of my time or your money.
225
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\h\h\h\hI am going to be
a professional wrestler."
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- My dad played golf
\h\h\h\hwith this guy,
227
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and apparently he’s the guy
that’s a local promoter
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here in San Antonio.
229
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\h\h\h\h\h\hWe go down there,
and Jose Lothario was there.
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- From San Antonio, Texas,
superstar Jose Lothario.
231
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\h\h\h\h\h- I understood
he was a legitimate name.
232
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\h\h\h\hThe gentleman stated
"Well, he has to be trained.
233
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"Jose could do the training
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hif you wanted.
234
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It’s gonna cost $3,000."
235
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- I thought
\habout facing him
236
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when he was 35
or 40 years old,
237
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and having him say
238
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"Dad, if you’d have
just given me the chance,
239
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\h\h\h\hI could have been
a professional wrestler."
240
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And I couldn’t face
that thought.
241
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And so I said,
"What the hell."
242
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[soft music]
243
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\h\h\h\h- You know,
I wake up every day
244
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\h\h\h\hnever forgetting
what I did for a living.
245
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I sort of developed a habit
\hgetting up in the morning,
246
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\h\h\h\h\h\hstretching
and then the heat pad.
247
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Over the years, you just
come up with a system
248
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that your body responds
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hwell to.
249
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I do some form of training
every day, you know,
250
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to be comfortable
for the rest of the day.
251
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I plan on getting, you know,
new knees, knee replacements
252
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and shoulder replacements.
253
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Those things are gonna add
to my quality of life.
254
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\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hIt’s not like
I got into this stuff thinking
255
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I want to be independently
wealthy and be 100% healthy.
256
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That doesn’t happen.
257
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So I don’t know,
I don’t mind it.
258
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I don’t think that’s some big,
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hcrazy sacrifice.
259
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♪
260
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[upbeat music playing]
261
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\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- I first came
across Shawn Michaels in 1983.
262
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Shawn was training
with a gentleman
263
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by the name of Jose Lothario.
264
00:11:32,132 --> 00:11:36,264
Jose was a big star
\hin Houston, Texas,
265
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Dallas, San Antonio.
266
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\h\h\h\h\h- He was Hispanic,
so there was a Luchador style.
267
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It was the aerial side
\h\h\h\h\h\hof things.
268
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\h\h\h\h\h\hThankfully,
in all of that process,
269
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he saw that, "Oh, my goodness,
he’s actually pretty good."
270
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\h\h\h\hIt was worth
the $3,000, period,
271
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\h\h\h\h\hfor him to get me
my first job in Louisiana,
272
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and that could not
have happened
273
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without Jose Lothario.
274
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- The pride of Vero Beach,
\hFlorida, Terry Taylor.
275
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- The first time
\hI met Shawn Michaels
276
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working for Mid-South,
277
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there was this young,
innocent, cheerful,
278
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vibrant sort of
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lost young man.
280
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- I was scared
\hof everything.
281
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It was a lot of confusion,
\h\h\h\h\ha lot of unknown.
282
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\h\h\h\h\hHow in God’s name
is this supposed to go on?
283
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[upbeat music]
284
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I came walking
through the back,
285
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\h\h\h\h\hand Terry Taylor was
standing there at the curtain.
286
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- I said, "How long have you
been in the business?"
287
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\h\h\h\h\h\h\hAnd he goes,
"That was my first match."
288
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And I couldn’t believe it,
because this isn’t easy.
289
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- Shawn Michaels.
290
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A very young man,
and very inexperienced,
291
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but he has a great deal
of natural athletic ability.
292
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\h\h\h\h- We drove
3,000 miles a week.
293
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That means there’s
a lot of time
294
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that you’re in the car
\h\h\h\h\h\hdoing this,
295
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and he would ask questions.
296
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\h\h\h\h- A young man
who is quite handsome.
297
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- I was very well mannered,
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hI was quiet,
298
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and I wanted to do
nothing but learn.
299
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\h\h\h\h\h- Some young people
come in, "I know everything."
300
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Nothing like that with Shawn.
301
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Humble, passionate,
driven, hungry.
302
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[crowd cheers]
303
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- At about six months,
\hthe owner, Bill Watts,
304
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came to me and he got me
set up in Kansas City.
305
00:13:08,528 --> 00:13:11,132
I was going to have
the opportunity to begin
306
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to grow as a wrestler,
\h\h\h\has a performer.
307
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- We’re hearing
all this, like,
308
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this guy Shawn Michaels,
Shawn Michaels is coming in.
309
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\h\h\h\h\h\h\hWe’re like,
"Damn, nobody has gotten
310
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"any attention like this.
311
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What’s wrong with us?"
312
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We walked in the dressing room
313
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and this guy had
real short hair,
314
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green tights pulled up
to under his chest.
315
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Let me ask this nerd, like,
316
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"Hey, do you know
who Shawn Michaels is?"
317
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And he leaned back he goes,
"I’m Shawn Michaels."
318
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[laughs]
319
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I was like, "Oh, damn,
we got some work to do."
320
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They threw us
together because
321
00:13:43,132 --> 00:13:44,132
\h\h\h\hthey needed
a match real quick.
322
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We didn’t have time to prepare
\h\h\h\hfor it, but it clicked.
323
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- Marty Jannetty.
324
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- Marty just carried himself
\h\h\h\hwith such confidence.
325
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He was enjoying himself.
\h\h\h\hHe was outgoing.
326
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I was so sort of shy,
\h\h\h\hconservative.
327
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- Shawn Michaels.
328
00:14:00,528 --> 00:14:02,330
\h\h\h\h\h- Shawn came
from a military family.
329
00:14:02,330 --> 00:14:07,264
Shawn was protected
from a lot of the evils
330
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that lurk in the real world
331
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and having some notoriety,
being on television,
332
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you’ve got women, you’ve got
alcohol, you’ve got drugs.
333
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And it’s all readily
available to you.
334
00:14:17,396 --> 00:14:19,132
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Yeah,
he liked it right away.
335
00:14:19,132 --> 00:14:21,627
\h\h\h\h\h\hAt first,
he wasn’t old enough,
336
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so he had to wait
in the parking lot.
337
00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:26,462
We’d bring girls down to him
\h\h\h\hand beer down to him.
338
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- Marty Jannetty
\hone day said,
339
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\h\h\h\h"I see something in you
that’s just dying to get out."
340
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\h\h\h\h\h\h\hHe said,
"You just need somebody
341
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"to bring it out of you,
342
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and I’m gonna bring it out."
343
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- From the Showboat
\hHotel and Casino
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in Las Vegas, Nevada,
345
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this is AWA Championship
Wrestling on ESPN.
346
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- So, I was 20 years old.
347
00:14:46,726 --> 00:14:49,264
TV tapings are in Las Vegas.
348
00:14:49,264 --> 00:14:51,363
\h\h\h\hAt that time,
Marty and I, you know,
349
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I knew he was out there,
350
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so we just started
looking around.
351
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[upbeat music]
352
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All of a sudden there he is,
he’s down there playing.
353
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And go down there,
354
00:15:00,660 --> 00:15:03,528
and I went and just do-do-do,
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hpulled it down.
355
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- I’m sitting there with him,
356
00:15:04,594 --> 00:15:06,132
and all of the sudden
\h\h\h\hwe hear this,
357
00:15:06,132 --> 00:15:07,363
"Ding, ding, ding,
ding, ding, ding."
358
00:15:07,363 --> 00:15:12,330
Red lights go flashing around,
and Shawn hit triple 7s.
359
00:15:12,330 --> 00:15:15,000
Won 750 bucks
the first time.
360
00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:19,594
The irony of it now, like,
oh, this place was--
361
00:15:19,594 --> 00:15:20,660
Vegas and the nightlife
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hof Vegas
362
00:15:20,660 --> 00:15:22,528
and everything else
\hwould be my down--
363
00:15:22,528 --> 00:15:24,066
\h\h\h\h\h\h[laughs]
Would be my downfall.
364
00:15:24,066 --> 00:15:25,396
It started later that night.
365
00:15:25,396 --> 00:15:28,528
It’s the first line of yayo,
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hyou know.
366
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\h\h\h\h\h\h\h[laughs]
The first line of blow.
367
00:15:30,627 --> 00:15:35,231
And it’s, "Oh, my gosh, this
is the greatest thing ever."
368
00:15:35,231 --> 00:15:38,264
And it’s just this
whole world opens up.
369
00:15:38,264 --> 00:15:40,660
I’d have never been able
to get that guy out of me,
370
00:15:40,660 --> 00:15:44,132
and Marty is the guy
that helped tap into that.
371
00:15:44,132 --> 00:15:47,066
\h\h\h\h\hI don’t even know
how much I knew was there.
372
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♪
373
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- Me and Shawn partied
\hMonday night, Tuesday night,
374
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Wednesday night,
\hThursday night.
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00:15:52,396 --> 00:15:53,594
Come Friday,
we were burned out.
376
00:15:53,594 --> 00:15:57,000
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hBig Van Vader,
he comes to hang out with us.
377
00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:59,330
He looked at Curt Hennig
\h\h\h\h\h\hand he goes,
378
00:15:59,330 --> 00:16:01,528
\h"I thought you said
these guys partied."
379
00:16:01,528 --> 00:16:04,627
And Curt said, "They don’t
start until midnight."
380
00:16:04,627 --> 00:16:06,066
- The Midnight Rockers.
381
00:16:06,066 --> 00:16:08,000
What a sensational pair
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hthey are.
382
00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:12,132
\h\h\h\h\h- It was like magic.
The Judas Priest song come on.
383
00:16:12,132 --> 00:16:15,000
- They love to party.
384
00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:16,660
- They’ve taken
\hthe AWA by storm.
385
00:16:16,660 --> 00:16:17,660
- The move
\hhappening faster
386
00:16:17,660 --> 00:16:19,000
\h\h\h\hthan we can
even talk about it.
387
00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:20,660
- They’ve got to put
\ha bigger roof on the arenas
388
00:16:20,660 --> 00:16:22,000
to hold these two kids in it.
389
00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:25,099
\h\h\h\h\h\h- These two
are indeed sensational,
390
00:16:25,099 --> 00:16:26,198
to say the least.
391
00:16:26,198 --> 00:16:29,528
- ♪ Living after midnight
392
00:16:29,528 --> 00:16:32,264
♪ Rocking ’til the dawn
393
00:16:32,264 --> 00:16:33,231
[crowd cheering]
394
00:16:33,231 --> 00:16:37,330
- Midnight Rockers had
\ha hell of a run in the AWA.
395
00:16:37,330 --> 00:16:39,132
They’d had TV on ESPN.
396
00:16:39,132 --> 00:16:40,495
\h\h\h\h\h- The World
Tag Team Championship
397
00:16:40,495 --> 00:16:43,099
\h\h\h\his Marty Jannetty
and Shawn Michaels’ goal.
398
00:16:43,099 --> 00:16:44,066
- They were smaller guys,
399
00:16:44,066 --> 00:16:46,660
but they could work
with the giants
400
00:16:46,660 --> 00:16:48,627
and have a great match.
401
00:16:48,627 --> 00:16:49,627
[crowd cheering]
402
00:16:49,627 --> 00:16:51,363
\h\h\h\h\h- The Tag Team
Championship of the World
403
00:16:51,363 --> 00:16:54,396
is what they are fighting for
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hhere tonight.
404
00:16:54,396 --> 00:16:57,132
- I think he cracked
his head on the cement
405
00:16:57,132 --> 00:16:58,594
when he went out there.
406
00:16:58,594 --> 00:17:00,066
- The blood match,
\h\h\h\hif you will,
407
00:17:00,066 --> 00:17:04,000
was the first time that a
national audience got exposed
408
00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:06,726
\h\h\h\h\h\hto the talent
of the Midnight Rockers.
409
00:17:06,726 --> 00:17:08,759
- This is absolute mayhem.
410
00:17:08,759 --> 00:17:12,264
\h\h\h\h- The match itself
was very bloody, very gory.
411
00:17:12,264 --> 00:17:15,132
\h\h\h\h\h\h- One of the
toughest, roughest matches
412
00:17:15,132 --> 00:17:17,264
that we have ever seen.
413
00:17:17,264 --> 00:17:18,264
- That was kind of like
414
00:17:18,264 --> 00:17:20,132
a defining moment
\hin their career,
415
00:17:20,132 --> 00:17:23,660
that they were made
at that level.
416
00:17:23,660 --> 00:17:26,198
- If we was on the road
\h\h\h\h300 days a year,
417
00:17:26,198 --> 00:17:28,264
we partied 290 of them.
418
00:17:28,264 --> 00:17:29,132
[laughs]
419
00:17:29,132 --> 00:17:30,660
We used to do a lot of drugs.
420
00:17:30,660 --> 00:17:32,099
There was a lot
of powder around.
421
00:17:32,099 --> 00:17:34,396
- You look at rock stars
\hand you look at rock bands.
422
00:17:34,396 --> 00:17:39,363
There was a tendency to want
to go wild and destroy things.
423
00:17:39,363 --> 00:17:41,132
It’s fun when you’re young,
424
00:17:41,132 --> 00:17:42,627
because you feel like a rebel.
425
00:17:42,627 --> 00:17:44,660
We’ve made it, man.
Look at this.
426
00:17:44,660 --> 00:17:47,000
And throw a beer bottle
up against the wall,
427
00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:49,396
\h\h\h\h\hand it was, like,
oh, we’ll pay for it later.
428
00:17:49,396 --> 00:17:51,000
- We always did the job,
429
00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:52,264
but it was just partying
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hall night.
430
00:17:52,264 --> 00:17:54,462
Destroy your room
at the Showboat
431
00:17:54,462 --> 00:17:57,495
and we got the entire, uh, AWA,
432
00:17:57,495 --> 00:18:00,396
the entire company
got kicked out of there.
433
00:18:00,396 --> 00:18:04,528
It wasn’t very long
that we had a reputation.
434
00:18:04,528 --> 00:18:09,627
And once you get it, everybody
\h\h\h\helse knows you got it.
435
00:18:09,627 --> 00:18:13,000
\h\h\h\h\hWWE was starting
to really separate itself.
436
00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:14,000
If that’s where
you wanted to go,
437
00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:15,396
that’s where you
\hset your goals.
438
00:18:15,396 --> 00:18:20,198
Finally, Marty got the call
\h\h\h\hto go into New York.
439
00:18:20,198 --> 00:18:26,198
- In 1987, the Rockers
\hstarted in Buffalo, New York.
440
00:18:26,198 --> 00:18:30,528
Marty and Shawn looked
at this as their big break.
441
00:18:30,528 --> 00:18:32,528
That night in the bar,
442
00:18:32,528 --> 00:18:34,660
\h\h\h\hthe other talent
looked at Shawn and Marty
443
00:18:34,660 --> 00:18:40,066
as these two young punks
with a chip on their shoulder.
444
00:18:40,066 --> 00:18:41,231
They’re gonna have to earn
445
00:18:41,231 --> 00:18:44,264
\h\h\h\h\h\hthe respect
of the WWE locker room.
446
00:18:44,264 --> 00:18:46,396
- We were scared, man.
\h\h\h\hWe were scared.
447
00:18:46,396 --> 00:18:51,000
So that night, that’s why
we kind of kept to ourselves,
448
00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:53,132
and Terry Garvin come up
\h\h\h\h\h\hand he said,
449
00:18:53,132 --> 00:18:53,660
"No, don’t do that.
450
00:18:53,660 --> 00:18:56,000
\h\h\h\hDon’t do that.
Y’all have to mingle."
451
00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:59,660
- And then all of a sudden
\hJimmy Jack Funk, he came over.
452
00:18:59,660 --> 00:19:03,528
He’s hammering down these
drinks and he’s like, "Hey!
453
00:19:03,528 --> 00:19:04,495
You guys are big partiers!"
454
00:19:04,495 --> 00:19:10,132
He starts eating his glass.
"Come on let’s do it."
455
00:19:10,132 --> 00:19:11,396
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hI at least
gotta be a little tough.
456
00:19:11,396 --> 00:19:15,264
\h\h\h\h\hSo then I break
a wine glass over my head.
457
00:19:15,264 --> 00:19:19,396
\h\h\h\hAnd that was it,
I turn around, I leave.
458
00:19:19,396 --> 00:19:21,330
I would never say
we didn’t earn
459
00:19:21,330 --> 00:19:22,462
our reputations,
any of that,
460
00:19:22,462 --> 00:19:23,396
but the wrestling business
461
00:19:23,396 --> 00:19:24,396
\h\h\h\h\his one giant
fish story, all right?
462
00:19:24,396 --> 00:19:27,066
So something happened once
in the wrestling business,
463
00:19:27,066 --> 00:19:29,660
that gets magnified
to ten times.
464
00:19:29,660 --> 00:19:30,627
- Some people say
465
00:19:30,627 --> 00:19:33,000
that Shawn or Marty
threw a beer bottle,
466
00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:39,099
which started a chain of events
that couldn’t be stopped.
467
00:19:39,099 --> 00:19:40,363
- "And then these two guys,
468
00:19:40,363 --> 00:19:41,759
"I mean, they’re in there
just getting crazy,
469
00:19:41,759 --> 00:19:46,000
tearing up the bar, throwing
stuff all over the place."
470
00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:49,528
And that’s not at all
what happened.
471
00:19:49,528 --> 00:19:53,528
\h\h\h\h\h\h- The next day,
Shawn and Marty were fired,
472
00:19:53,528 --> 00:19:56,330
and it was over for them
\h\h\h\h\hafter one day,
473
00:19:56,330 --> 00:20:01,264
\h\h\h\h\hfrom just the story
and the hearsay and innuendo.
474
00:20:01,264 --> 00:20:03,495
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- I normally
give reasons as to, you know,
475
00:20:03,495 --> 00:20:06,594
why I’m gonna do something
and I’m sure I did with them,
476
00:20:06,594 --> 00:20:10,066
but that was one and done, out.
477
00:20:10,066 --> 00:20:12,363
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- He said,
"The guys don’t like it."
478
00:20:12,363 --> 00:20:14,726
He said, "They won’t let you
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hmake it here."
479
00:20:14,726 --> 00:20:20,495
\h\h\h\h\hIn my mind,
I’m 23 and it’s over.
480
00:20:20,495 --> 00:20:23,759
That was my one big shot.
481
00:20:23,759 --> 00:20:27,528
It happened now and it’s gone.
482
00:20:31,528 --> 00:20:34,396
- Take a look at Takeover.
483
00:20:34,396 --> 00:20:36,759
We’ll watch it,
and I’ll Skull you.
484
00:20:36,759 --> 00:20:38,000
- Okay.
485
00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:38,495
[laughs]
486
00:20:38,495 --> 00:20:41,198
- Shawn Michaels
\hput his heart and soul
487
00:20:41,198 --> 00:20:42,759
\h\h\h\h\hinto being
the best pro wrestler
488
00:20:42,759 --> 00:20:44,066
that he could possibly be,
489
00:20:44,066 --> 00:20:47,363
\h\h\h\h\hand he does
the exact same thing
490
00:20:47,363 --> 00:20:49,198
as a coach
and as producer.
491
00:20:49,198 --> 00:20:51,066
\h\h\h\h\h- Stop there
and look at each other.
492
00:20:51,066 --> 00:20:52,759
Can that stuff take
a little longer?
493
00:20:52,759 --> 00:20:55,132
- He will find ways
\hto pick apart
494
00:20:55,132 --> 00:20:57,495
every little thing
to make it better.
495
00:20:57,495 --> 00:20:59,726
- Aim for the head.
496
00:20:59,726 --> 00:21:00,627
You can’t hold back on that,
497
00:21:00,627 --> 00:21:03,198
because that’s gonna cause you
not to get all the way around.
498
00:21:03,198 --> 00:21:05,066
- Shawn has this
\hamazing ability
499
00:21:05,066 --> 00:21:07,726
to instill a confidence in you.
500
00:21:07,726 --> 00:21:09,363
This was a tremendous bout.
501
00:21:09,363 --> 00:21:11,000
- I mean, someone
\hlike Shawn Michaels
502
00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:14,396
gives that to you, that’s all
the motivation that you need.
503
00:21:14,396 --> 00:21:19,132
[laughter]
504
00:21:20,330 --> 00:21:22,660
[crowd cheering]
505
00:21:22,660 --> 00:21:24,462
- The unfortunate byproduct
506
00:21:24,462 --> 00:21:30,627
of Shawn and Marty being fired
after their first day in WWE
507
00:21:30,627 --> 00:21:35,198
is Marty and Shawn had burned
their bridge in the AWA.
508
00:21:35,198 --> 00:21:36,264
Where do you go?
509
00:21:36,264 --> 00:21:37,099
And welcome once again
510
00:21:37,099 --> 00:21:38,759
to Continental Championship
Wrestling and we have--
511
00:21:38,759 --> 00:21:42,396
\h\h\h\h\h- We ended up
in Birmingham, Alabama.
512
00:21:42,396 --> 00:21:44,000
Continental Wrestling.
513
00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,396
I was wrestling
in front of 25 people
514
00:21:46,396 --> 00:21:48,000
at 300 bucks a week.
515
00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:50,132
If you wanted to get $50
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hin cash,
516
00:21:50,132 --> 00:21:52,528
you get your other $50 in blow,
\h\h\h\h\h\hyou could do that.
517
00:21:52,528 --> 00:21:57,396
Which is probably what I did
nine times out of ten.
518
00:21:57,396 --> 00:22:00,759
- I heard him talk about
\hhow depressed he was.
519
00:22:00,759 --> 00:22:04,000
At that time, we was
doing a lot of cocaine.
520
00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:05,000
And we would talk
about wrestling
521
00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:08,528
and we would watch wrestling
videos and we would study.
522
00:22:08,528 --> 00:22:10,000
I had to go home
to my girlfriend
523
00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,000
like at two or three
or four in the morning.
524
00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,528
Sometimes the next
morning sun was out.
525
00:22:14,528 --> 00:22:17,000
And evidently,
the way he says it,
526
00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:20,099
I let him down ’cause
I didn’t stay with him more
527
00:22:20,099 --> 00:22:21,000
and he was by himself.
528
00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:23,660
When you’re doing cocaine,
you don’t want to be alone.
529
00:22:23,660 --> 00:22:26,099
[laughs]
530
00:22:26,099 --> 00:22:27,759
- When you’re up
at 4:00 in the morning
531
00:22:27,759 --> 00:22:33,627
coming down from the yayo,
that’s like, it’s very dreary.
532
00:22:33,627 --> 00:22:37,132
Because the low
is just so really low.
533
00:22:37,132 --> 00:22:39,132
\h\h\h\h\hI was like,
"Man, if I had a gun,
534
00:22:39,132 --> 00:22:40,000
"this is one
of those times
535
00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:43,132
that I was reckless enough
to have the balls to do it."
536
00:22:43,132 --> 00:22:45,132
At that time, it would
have wrecked my parents.
537
00:22:45,132 --> 00:22:50,660
You know, their suffering is
what pulled me back from that.
538
00:22:50,660 --> 00:22:53,264
\h\h\h\h\h\hBut the thing is
I never told them the truth.
539
00:22:53,264 --> 00:22:55,660
So I’m not telling like,
"Jeez, Mama, I’m just partying,
540
00:22:55,660 --> 00:22:58,264
getting hammered
and doing blow."
541
00:22:58,264 --> 00:23:02,198
- Shawn and Marty,
\hthey wanted to come back.
542
00:23:02,198 --> 00:23:05,627
I remember Pat Patterson giving
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hthem the advice
543
00:23:05,627 --> 00:23:06,495
to continue to work
544
00:23:06,495 --> 00:23:12,396
and continue to reverse
the reputation that you have,
545
00:23:12,396 --> 00:23:14,594
\hand prove to us
that you belong.
546
00:23:14,594 --> 00:23:17,000
And that’s what
Marty and Shawn did.
547
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:18,627
- Pat was instrumental
\h\h\h\h\h\hin saying,
548
00:23:18,627 --> 00:23:20,132
"Vince, he’s a great talent."
549
00:23:20,132 --> 00:23:23,000
and it is difficult for me
to make that decision,
550
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:24,132
because he was a jerk.
551
00:23:24,132 --> 00:23:26,099
I mean, doing
some stupid things.
552
00:23:26,099 --> 00:23:27,396
But Pat was right.
553
00:23:27,396 --> 00:23:30,528
- I was there in ’88
\hwhen they came back.
554
00:23:30,528 --> 00:23:31,264
It had been a year
555
00:23:31,264 --> 00:23:34,396
since the Rockers had kinda
screwed up on their first day.
556
00:23:34,396 --> 00:23:37,528
- We’re gonna bring you back,
\hbut you’re on probation.
557
00:23:37,528 --> 00:23:40,000
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hYou know,
keep your [bleep] together.
558
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,396
Yes, sir.
559
00:23:42,396 --> 00:23:43,660
- Two newcomers, the Rockers.
560
00:23:43,660 --> 00:23:46,132
These guys are excitement
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hpersonified.
561
00:23:46,132 --> 00:23:48,264
They’ll be high flying.
562
00:23:48,264 --> 00:23:49,759
- I met Shawn in 1990.
563
00:23:49,759 --> 00:23:53,132
They were pretty much,
you know, fun loving guys.
564
00:23:53,132 --> 00:23:55,000
They even tested me
a little bit with their,
565
00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:56,264
you know, their antics.
566
00:23:56,264 --> 00:23:59,660
Actually, you know, they were
both pretty much peckerheads.
567
00:23:59,660 --> 00:24:02,132
I mean, I’ve got to call
\h\h\h\ha spade a spade.
568
00:24:02,132 --> 00:24:04,000
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- The Rockers
have got a bag full of tricks
569
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:05,264
and you ain’t
seen nothing yet,
570
00:24:05,264 --> 00:24:07,396
\h\h\h\hso get ready,
because here we come.
571
00:24:07,396 --> 00:24:08,396
Wow!
572
00:24:08,396 --> 00:24:11,330
- They were definitely
\h\h\h\h\h\hinnovators
573
00:24:11,330 --> 00:24:13,528
doing tandem moves together.
574
00:24:13,528 --> 00:24:16,132
You know, such a cohesive unit.
575
00:24:16,132 --> 00:24:19,660
The fans went nuts for them,
\h\h\h\hespecially the women.
576
00:24:19,660 --> 00:24:23,396
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hYou know,
the long hair and all that.
577
00:24:23,396 --> 00:24:24,594
- There was a transitional
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hmoment
578
00:24:24,594 --> 00:24:26,528
happening in the business
579
00:24:26,528 --> 00:24:29,099
where the athleticism
was picking up.
580
00:24:29,099 --> 00:24:34,000
The ability to do things that
Shawn and Marty could do.
581
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:35,528
- Oh, what a backdrop!
582
00:24:35,528 --> 00:24:37,231
- Tag team wrestling now
583
00:24:37,231 --> 00:24:40,726
has been impacted a great deal
by what Marty and I did.
584
00:24:40,726 --> 00:24:41,759
[camera shutter clicking]
585
00:24:41,759 --> 00:24:45,066
- The first time you ever
\hmake a magazine is huge,
586
00:24:45,066 --> 00:24:47,396
and we would always go
\h\h\h\hto the stores,
587
00:24:47,396 --> 00:24:48,660
\h\h\h\h\hstop and look
at the magazine racks.
588
00:24:48,660 --> 00:24:52,264
\h\h\h\hI remember one time
I heard Shawn "Oh, my God!"
589
00:24:52,264 --> 00:24:53,264
And there was a picture of us.
590
00:24:53,264 --> 00:24:56,495
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hIt said
"From Imitators To Innovators"
591
00:24:56,495 --> 00:24:58,594
and he’s holding it up
and he was so proud
592
00:24:58,594 --> 00:25:02,627
and I was, like, "Oh, man!
\h\h\h\h\hYeah, we did it!
593
00:25:02,627 --> 00:25:03,528
- Shawn Michaels,
594
00:25:03,528 --> 00:25:06,396
Marty Jannetty, the Rockers.
595
00:25:06,396 --> 00:25:08,396
- That’s a real
\hnotch in the belt,
596
00:25:08,396 --> 00:25:10,726
to be on Saturday night’s
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hmain event.
597
00:25:10,726 --> 00:25:12,000
- Saturday night’s
\h\h\h\h\hmain event
598
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,330
was finally going
to be the Rockers
599
00:25:14,330 --> 00:25:16,528
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hwinning
the Tag Team Championship
600
00:25:16,528 --> 00:25:20,198
\h\h\h\h\hagainst Bret Hart
and Jim the Anvil Neidhart.
601
00:25:20,198 --> 00:25:22,066
- It was gonna be five stars.
602
00:25:22,066 --> 00:25:25,000
It was gonna be as good
a match as we ever had.
603
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:26,066
[crowd cheering]
604
00:25:26,066 --> 00:25:29,132
- We’re in the process
\hof having that match,
605
00:25:29,132 --> 00:25:33,099
and all of a sudden,
the rope breaks.
606
00:25:33,099 --> 00:25:34,396
Bret, the consummate pro,
607
00:25:34,396 --> 00:25:37,396
he understands it’s not live,
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hit’s taped.
608
00:25:37,396 --> 00:25:38,660
We can fix all this.
609
00:25:38,660 --> 00:25:40,132
\h\h\h\h- It’s taped.
All you’ve got to do
610
00:25:40,132 --> 00:25:42,264
\h\h\h\h\his grab a hold
and then they’ll fix it
611
00:25:42,264 --> 00:25:44,132
and then you’re still
\h\h\h\hin that hold,
612
00:25:44,132 --> 00:25:45,264
then the match can carry on.
613
00:25:45,264 --> 00:25:47,627
\h\h\h\h\h\hAnd I told them,
I said, "Just fix the rope."
614
00:25:47,627 --> 00:25:49,726
"Fix the rope, fix the rope.
We’ll take care of this."
615
00:25:49,726 --> 00:25:54,363
And then we get word,
just to continue without it,
616
00:25:54,363 --> 00:25:56,264
so that’s what we do.
617
00:25:56,264 --> 00:26:00,759
- It was a disaster,
and I was so sick about it.
618
00:26:00,759 --> 00:26:02,396
\h\h\h\h- We get our
championship victory.
619
00:26:02,396 --> 00:26:05,066
We are doing our best
to look excited
620
00:26:05,066 --> 00:26:12,132
in what is this huge steaming
pile of crap in the ring.
621
00:26:12,132 --> 00:26:13,594
- It just looked horrible.
622
00:26:13,594 --> 00:26:15,528
So the match never aired.
623
00:26:15,528 --> 00:26:16,627
- Vince calls me and said,
624
00:26:16,627 --> 00:26:19,594
\h\h\h\h"We’re not going to
acknowledge that you’ve won.
625
00:26:19,594 --> 00:26:22,132
You’re going to give
the belts back.
626
00:26:22,132 --> 00:26:23,231
[scoffs]
627
00:26:23,231 --> 00:26:24,132
- Like, okay.
628
00:26:24,132 --> 00:26:25,660
Are we gonna have
another opportunity?
629
00:26:25,660 --> 00:26:30,594
No, probably just gonna
go in other directions.
630
00:26:30,594 --> 00:26:31,462
Unbelievably disappointed,
631
00:26:31,462 --> 00:26:35,594
because that’s not what you
\himagine that moment being.
632
00:26:35,594 --> 00:26:38,132
Done, it’s over.
633
00:26:41,759 --> 00:26:44,363
[crowd cheering]
634
00:26:44,363 --> 00:26:50,132
- We were on the road
\h300 days a year for years.
635
00:26:50,132 --> 00:26:53,330
The same hotels,
same rental car,
636
00:26:53,330 --> 00:26:56,264
some of the same girls.
637
00:26:56,264 --> 00:26:58,198
[crowd cheering]
638
00:26:58,198 --> 00:27:00,198
- He kicked his own partner
639
00:27:00,198 --> 00:27:01,528
right in the face.
640
00:27:01,528 --> 00:27:03,396
- I remember we were
\h\h\h\h\h\hin Denver.
641
00:27:03,396 --> 00:27:08,000
\hRoddy Piper came in our room
and we had a few girls there,
642
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,528
and Roddy kept
bragging on Shawn.
643
00:27:10,528 --> 00:27:14,000
- He was stirring up the pot
\h\h\h\h\h\has far as saying,
644
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:15,528
you know, I could be a singles
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hand, you know,
645
00:27:15,528 --> 00:27:18,264
have great success
and things like that.
646
00:27:18,264 --> 00:27:20,660
And he’d look at me and go
"We’ve got to work on you.
647
00:27:20,660 --> 00:27:23,000
You’re still rough
around the edges."
648
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,264
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hI was like,
"Roddy, shouldn’t we talk
649
00:27:25,264 --> 00:27:27,000
about that some other time?"
650
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:30,264
And Shawn shoved me
at that point.
651
00:27:30,264 --> 00:27:32,198
[overlapping chatter]
652
00:27:32,198 --> 00:27:33,363
- Everybody got in a fight
653
00:27:33,363 --> 00:27:37,660
because everybody was not
in their best frame of mind,
654
00:27:37,660 --> 00:27:38,627
like all the time.
655
00:27:38,627 --> 00:27:40,132
- And he attacked me
\h\h\h\hin the hallway
656
00:27:40,132 --> 00:27:43,132
and then I didn’t want to hit
\h\h\h\h\hhim once, let alone,
657
00:27:43,132 --> 00:27:44,528
you know, over and over.
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hHad blood.
658
00:27:44,528 --> 00:27:47,528
Like, it looked like you’d,
you know, gutted a deer
659
00:27:47,528 --> 00:27:48,330
or something.
660
00:27:48,330 --> 00:27:50,264
- There was speculation
\hthat Marty Jannetty
661
00:27:50,264 --> 00:27:52,099
and Shawn Michaels
are not getting along.
662
00:27:52,099 --> 00:27:54,099
There was speculation
that Shawn Michaels
663
00:27:54,099 --> 00:27:56,495
is kinda wanting to go
\h\h\h\h\hon his own.
664
00:27:56,495 --> 00:27:58,099
- All of my success
\hat that point
665
00:27:58,099 --> 00:28:02,264
was Tag Team, but there
was never a time in my career
666
00:28:02,264 --> 00:28:04,132
where someone didn’t
\h\h\h\h\hsay to me,
667
00:28:04,132 --> 00:28:06,396
\h\h\h\h\hlike, "I think
you’ve got some talent."
668
00:28:06,396 --> 00:28:10,000
It was eventually
gonna come down to me.
669
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,198
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hI remember
the first time he told me,
670
00:28:12,198 --> 00:28:14,132
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h"I want to be
the World Champion one day.
671
00:28:14,132 --> 00:28:16,462
I don’t want to tag
the rest of our career."
672
00:28:16,462 --> 00:28:19,726
"I just need you to let me know
when you’re ready for that.
673
00:28:19,726 --> 00:28:21,132
Don’t spring it on me."
674
00:28:21,132 --> 00:28:24,198
And then he sprung it
\h\h\h\hon me anyway.
675
00:28:24,198 --> 00:28:28,099
Welcome to the Barbershop,
ladies and gentlemen.
676
00:28:28,099 --> 00:28:33,594
Let’s welcome them right now.
\h\h\h\hThey’re the Rockers.
677
00:28:33,594 --> 00:28:34,396
[audience cheering]
678
00:28:34,396 --> 00:28:37,462
Recently there’s been
a lot of controversy,
679
00:28:37,462 --> 00:28:39,000
a lot of rumors flying guys.
680
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,000
Maybe you guys are
gonna break up.
681
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:42,660
You’ve been having
some problems.
682
00:28:42,660 --> 00:28:44,330
- I didn’t become familiar
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hwith Shawn
683
00:28:44,330 --> 00:28:49,627
until he showed up in WWE with
Marty Jannetty as the Rockers.
684
00:28:49,627 --> 00:28:52,396
That’s my first introduction
\h\h\h\h\hto Shawn Michaels.
685
00:28:52,396 --> 00:28:56,066
- See, one without
\hthe other isn’t any good.
686
00:28:56,066 --> 00:28:58,231
\h\h\h\hOh! Oh, I knew
he was gonna do that.
687
00:28:58,231 --> 00:29:01,000
\h\h\h\h\hI just knew
he was gonna do that.
688
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,396
[overlapping chatter]
689
00:29:03,396 --> 00:29:05,396
Oh, my God!
690
00:29:05,396 --> 00:29:07,528
- I would argue
\hthe Barbershop window
691
00:29:07,528 --> 00:29:10,363
was the greatest tag team
breakup of all time.
692
00:29:10,363 --> 00:29:14,528
It is the standard bearer
for turning on a friend.
693
00:29:14,528 --> 00:29:16,528
\h- The super kick?
Oh, he laid it in.
694
00:29:16,528 --> 00:29:20,528
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h[laughs]
Oh, he got me back for Denver.
695
00:29:20,528 --> 00:29:21,495
[laughs]
696
00:29:21,495 --> 00:29:25,231
Is there a problem
\hwith the Rockers?
697
00:29:25,231 --> 00:29:27,000
- It was so effective
698
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:32,528
that it makes Shawn one of the
most hated men in wrestling.
699
00:29:32,528 --> 00:29:37,264
\h\h\h\h\h\hShawn Michaels
changed forever that day.
700
00:29:40,528 --> 00:29:45,132
\h\h\h\h\h\h- I had this
strange thing with Marty,
701
00:29:45,132 --> 00:29:47,396
because without him,
702
00:29:47,396 --> 00:29:52,000
so much of the good
doesn’t happen for me.
703
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,528
But there’s a ceiling
on being a tag team, period,
704
00:29:54,528 --> 00:29:59,660
when it’s called a leading man
as opposed to a leading duo.
705
00:29:59,660 --> 00:30:01,660
It’s just a natural evolution.
706
00:30:01,660 --> 00:30:03,396
Now everybody is gonna find out
707
00:30:03,396 --> 00:30:06,726
\hwhat Shawn Michaels
has known all along,
708
00:30:06,726 --> 00:30:08,330
that he is, without a doubt,
709
00:30:08,330 --> 00:30:10,528
the hottest thing in the WWE
710
00:30:10,528 --> 00:30:13,330
has ever, ever laid eyes on.
711
00:30:13,330 --> 00:30:16,660
[rock music playing]
712
00:30:16,660 --> 00:30:18,462
♪
713
00:30:18,462 --> 00:30:21,528
\h\h\h\h- The Heartbreak Kid,
Shawn Michaels, was something
714
00:30:21,528 --> 00:30:24,396
that Shawn just pretty much
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hcame up with.
715
00:30:24,396 --> 00:30:28,330
I don’t think that anybody
\h\h\h\h\hreally mapped out
716
00:30:28,330 --> 00:30:29,660
The Heartbreak Kid.
717
00:30:29,660 --> 00:30:35,000
- It’s sort of an Elvis
\hmeets Freddie Mercury.
718
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:38,462
\h\h\h\h- Shawn Michaels
is leavin’ the building!
719
00:30:38,462 --> 00:30:44,396
- It was allowing me a vehicle
to let this other person out.
720
00:30:44,396 --> 00:30:46,099
To get out there in front
of a bunch of people
721
00:30:46,099 --> 00:30:50,528
and you can--wow, you can just
be somebody you’ve never been.
722
00:30:50,528 --> 00:30:52,264
- Has this guy got it all
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hor what?
723
00:30:52,264 --> 00:30:54,759
No, I don’t know where
all that came from,
724
00:30:54,759 --> 00:30:55,462
I really don’t.
725
00:30:55,462 --> 00:30:58,495
\h\h\h\hHe figured Shawn Michaels
could do whatever he wanted to.
726
00:30:58,495 --> 00:31:00,660
What, an alter ego maybe.
727
00:31:00,660 --> 00:31:03,363
The Kentucky waterfall
\h\h\h\h\hmullet alone,
728
00:31:03,363 --> 00:31:07,264
probably one of the greatest
\h\h\h\hmullets of all time.
729
00:31:07,264 --> 00:31:11,462
The dangling earrings,
the Village People outfit.
730
00:31:11,462 --> 00:31:12,528
Your girlfriend wants him,
731
00:31:12,528 --> 00:31:14,264
you’re gonna go over
and kick his ass,
732
00:31:14,264 --> 00:31:18,000
\hbut maybe he’s gonna kick
yours and take her anyway.
733
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,495
And that’s where his heat was.
734
00:31:20,495 --> 00:31:21,264
- I was a pretty kid.
735
00:31:21,264 --> 00:31:24,264
I was a pretty man, I don’t
mind telling you, at one time.
736
00:31:24,264 --> 00:31:27,264
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hI could play
the part of Mr. Confident
737
00:31:27,264 --> 00:31:28,132
and everything else,
738
00:31:28,132 --> 00:31:29,594
and could do everything
\h\h\h\h\hunder the sun.
739
00:31:29,594 --> 00:31:30,396
Couldn’t do a lick.
740
00:31:30,396 --> 00:31:33,396
Elvis and Freddie Mercury
\h\h\h\h\h\hwere onstage,
741
00:31:33,396 --> 00:31:36,528
they were so frickin’ positive,
742
00:31:36,528 --> 00:31:39,231
but in their lives
they struggled.
743
00:31:39,231 --> 00:31:41,495
There was something
there between me
744
00:31:41,495 --> 00:31:44,363
and those individuals
that I could relate to.
745
00:31:44,363 --> 00:31:46,000
You are not comfortable
with who you are,
746
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:47,462
you’re not comfortable
\h\h\h\hwith yourself.
747
00:31:47,462 --> 00:31:50,198
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hNot knowing
who I was as a human being,
748
00:31:50,198 --> 00:31:52,627
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hout there
you’re playing this role,
749
00:31:52,627 --> 00:31:57,660
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hbut you can do it
with just unbridled confidence
750
00:31:57,660 --> 00:32:00,000
and you absolutely cannot do it
751
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,726
\h\h\h\h\h\hby yourself
in your own hotel room.
752
00:32:02,726 --> 00:32:03,660
I am a high-performance,
753
00:32:03,660 --> 00:32:05,330
state-of-the-art
wrestling machine.
754
00:32:05,330 --> 00:32:09,000
- I think any great character
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hwill be confused
755
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,099
between the human being
and the character,
756
00:32:11,099 --> 00:32:16,363
and Shawn Hickenbottom kinda
morphed into the Heartbreak Kid
757
00:32:16,363 --> 00:32:17,000
at all times.
758
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:20,000
\h\h\h\h\hShawn was becoming
a little bit more difficult.
759
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:21,198
And the Intercontinental title
760
00:32:21,198 --> 00:32:23,726
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\his coming
to the sexiest man, hey.
761
00:32:23,726 --> 00:32:26,528
- The WWE was still
\hthe land of the giants,
762
00:32:26,528 --> 00:32:29,000
and there were still
a lot of big guys,
763
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:30,627
and Shawn wanted
to break through
764
00:32:30,627 --> 00:32:32,660
what he considered
a glass ceiling of,
765
00:32:32,660 --> 00:32:36,594
"I’m not six-foot-eight,
I’m not 300 pounds.
766
00:32:36,594 --> 00:32:42,000
I wanna be what I am,
and I wanna be the guy."
767
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:43,660
- When you are that talented
768
00:32:43,660 --> 00:32:46,660
and that hell-bent
on succeeding,
769
00:32:46,660 --> 00:32:49,462
but you have the chip
on your shoulder
770
00:32:49,462 --> 00:32:50,462
of being the little guy
771
00:32:50,462 --> 00:32:51,594
\hto get to where
he needed to be,
772
00:32:51,594 --> 00:32:52,528
he had to stand his ground,
773
00:32:52,528 --> 00:32:54,231
he had to fight
for what he wanted.
774
00:32:54,231 --> 00:32:56,264
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- I was
at the very least as good
775
00:32:56,264 --> 00:32:58,495
or better than, you know,
\h\h\h\h\h\hanybody else
776
00:32:58,495 --> 00:33:00,726
that I was sharing
a locker room with.
777
00:33:00,726 --> 00:33:01,660
I was getting an opportunity
778
00:33:01,660 --> 00:33:03,726
that not many guys like me
\h\h\h\h\h\hwere gonna get.
779
00:33:03,726 --> 00:33:06,660
\h\h\h\h\h- We got a new
Intercontinental Champion!
780
00:33:06,660 --> 00:33:08,759
- Shawn may
\hhave been six-one,
781
00:33:08,759 --> 00:33:11,528
but his ego and the chip
\h\h\h\hon his shoulder
782
00:33:11,528 --> 00:33:13,198
made him nine-foot-five.
783
00:33:13,198 --> 00:33:14,264
- Shawn Michaels,
784
00:33:14,264 --> 00:33:16,594
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hhe’s our
Intercontinental Champion!
785
00:33:16,594 --> 00:33:18,000
- ’92-’93,
786
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,396
Intercontinental Champion
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hat the time,
787
00:33:20,396 --> 00:33:22,528
looking for Shawn
to really step up
788
00:33:22,528 --> 00:33:25,198
and become a huge star for us.
789
00:33:25,198 --> 00:33:26,099
- One thing I did have
790
00:33:26,099 --> 00:33:28,132
is I wasn’t scared
of anything.
791
00:33:28,132 --> 00:33:30,660
I was the most dangerous
person in the world
792
00:33:30,660 --> 00:33:32,000
’cause I had nothing to lose.
793
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:36,198
\hAnd when you are like that
in a creative line of work,
794
00:33:36,198 --> 00:33:40,132
you are frickin’ unbeatable.
795
00:33:40,132 --> 00:33:44,132
- Welcome to WrestleMania 10!
796
00:33:44,132 --> 00:33:45,462
[cheers and applause]
797
00:33:45,462 --> 00:33:49,264
- In the process of studying
\hShawn Michael’s matches,
798
00:33:49,264 --> 00:33:51,660
the one that many people
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hgo back to
799
00:33:51,660 --> 00:33:52,528
is the infamous ladder match.
800
00:33:52,528 --> 00:33:57,000
The match that Shawn Michaels
\hand Razor Ramone made famous
801
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:58,264
at WrestleMania 10.
802
00:33:58,264 --> 00:33:59,495
- We are making history here.
803
00:33:59,495 --> 00:34:02,660
\h\h\h\h\h- So right before
WrestleMania 10, leading up,
804
00:34:02,660 --> 00:34:04,099
there was a suspension
\h\h\h\h\h\hwith Shawn,
805
00:34:04,099 --> 00:34:06,594
where Shawn had been out
of the company for a while.
806
00:34:06,594 --> 00:34:09,759
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hShawn left as
the Intercontinental Champion.
807
00:34:09,759 --> 00:34:13,231
- Yeah, he failed
\ha drug test for ’roids.
808
00:34:13,231 --> 00:34:14,528
At that time, brother,
809
00:34:14,528 --> 00:34:16,726
pills were bein’ passed around
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hin bars.
810
00:34:16,726 --> 00:34:17,660
Like, guys go, "Here, man.
811
00:34:17,660 --> 00:34:19,660
Canadian Valium,
here take this."
812
00:34:19,660 --> 00:34:21,264
- Shawn did not feel
813
00:34:21,264 --> 00:34:24,627
that he should have been
suspended, was pissed off.
814
00:34:24,627 --> 00:34:26,594
Vince didn’t wanna put up
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hwith him,
815
00:34:26,594 --> 00:34:29,198
thought he was an out
of control egomaniac.
816
00:34:29,198 --> 00:34:31,594
\h\h\h\h\h- And they’d tell
Shawn to send the belt back
817
00:34:31,594 --> 00:34:34,528
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hand he says,
"No, I’m not sending it back."
818
00:34:34,528 --> 00:34:37,099
- Shawn decides
\hhe wants to come back.
819
00:34:37,099 --> 00:34:39,264
\h\h\h\hWell, Razor’s the
Intercontinental Champion.
820
00:34:39,264 --> 00:34:41,660
- So take both
championship belts,
821
00:34:41,660 --> 00:34:43,000
hang ’em above the ring,
822
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:44,627
you fight to climb the ladder,
823
00:34:44,627 --> 00:34:47,330
whoever gets the championships
\h\h\h\h\h\h\habove the ring,
824
00:34:47,330 --> 00:34:48,528
that’s your true champion.
825
00:34:48,528 --> 00:34:50,462
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- The two
Intercontinental Championship
826
00:34:50,462 --> 00:34:53,132
belts hanging from above.
827
00:34:53,132 --> 00:34:55,528
- For the following contest,
828
00:34:55,528 --> 00:34:58,363
there are no rules!
829
00:34:58,363 --> 00:35:00,462
- With the ladder up. Oh!
830
00:35:00,462 --> 00:35:03,330
[cheers and applause]
831
00:35:03,330 --> 00:35:05,099
- From high above!
832
00:35:05,099 --> 00:35:05,759
Oh!
- Oh!
833
00:35:05,759 --> 00:35:08,759
It’s the most barbaric,
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hinsane,
834
00:35:08,759 --> 00:35:11,528
car crash excitement
you’ve ever seen.
835
00:35:11,528 --> 00:35:14,198
- It’s starting to shake!
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hOh, no!
836
00:35:14,198 --> 00:35:15,132
- Oh!
837
00:35:15,132 --> 00:35:17,396
- I was able
\hto have a presence
838
00:35:17,396 --> 00:35:20,330
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hthat I don’t
think they knew that I had.
839
00:35:20,330 --> 00:35:23,396
It isn’t about size,
it is about presence.
840
00:35:23,396 --> 00:35:26,066
[cheers and applause]
841
00:35:26,066 --> 00:35:27,264
- Oh! Oh!
842
00:35:27,264 --> 00:35:29,528
- Shawn actually
\hlost the match,
843
00:35:29,528 --> 00:35:32,462
but it put Shawn
at a different level
844
00:35:32,462 --> 00:35:34,495
that people believed
845
00:35:34,495 --> 00:35:37,264
this little bastard
could do anything.
846
00:35:37,264 --> 00:35:39,726
[cheers and applause]
847
00:35:39,726 --> 00:35:45,759
\h\h\h\hIf you didn’t before,
or you didn’t want to believe,
848
00:35:45,759 --> 00:35:53,660
Shawn made you believe.
849
00:35:53,660 --> 00:35:55,396
[thuds]
850
00:35:55,396 --> 00:35:57,132
\h\h\h\h\h\h- Should close it
and just drop it to the side.
851
00:35:57,132 --> 00:36:00,132
Boom and then you say,
"Okay, mister, here we go."
852
00:36:00,132 --> 00:36:00,759
You know, whatever.
853
00:36:00,759 --> 00:36:02,396
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hI don’t know,
just throwing it out there.
854
00:36:02,396 --> 00:36:06,330
This weekend, we have
one of our bigger events.
855
00:36:06,330 --> 00:36:07,759
Five-man ladder match.
856
00:36:07,759 --> 00:36:08,396
Is that gonna...
857
00:36:08,396 --> 00:36:10,000
Someone will be holding
that right there.
858
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:13,660
Many, many years ago,
it was just two of us
859
00:36:13,660 --> 00:36:15,000
and one ladder.
860
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:16,264
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hAnd now,
these young men and women
861
00:36:16,264 --> 00:36:18,264
have taken it to a whole
\h\h\h\h\hnother level.
862
00:36:18,264 --> 00:36:19,660
Got a lot of moving parts
\h\h\h\h\h\haround here.
863
00:36:19,660 --> 00:36:22,759
\h\h\h\h- I always dreamed
of being in a ladder match
864
00:36:22,759 --> 00:36:25,264
obviously because
of Shawn and Razor.
865
00:36:25,264 --> 00:36:26,396
[thuds]
866
00:36:26,396 --> 00:36:31,462
Ladder matches are about
crazy stunts, big falls,
867
00:36:31,462 --> 00:36:32,528
it’s a car crash come to life.
868
00:36:32,528 --> 00:36:34,495
He is the face
of the ladder match
869
00:36:34,495 --> 00:36:35,726
and to have him kind of
\h\h\h\h\h\hhelp us out,
870
00:36:35,726 --> 00:36:39,198
have him kinda watch over us,
you can’t dream it up.
871
00:36:39,198 --> 00:36:40,660
It’s perfect.
872
00:36:40,660 --> 00:36:43,759
There you go.
873
00:36:45,462 --> 00:36:47,726
[cheers and applause]
874
00:36:47,726 --> 00:36:51,495
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h-I met him
in the locker room, 1993,
875
00:36:51,495 --> 00:36:52,396
and wanted to know
876
00:36:52,396 --> 00:36:55,396
if I’d be interested
in becoming his bodyguard.
877
00:36:55,396 --> 00:36:58,231
And the first thing out
of Shawn’s mouth is,
878
00:36:58,231 --> 00:37:02,000
"Just so you know,
everybody hates us."
879
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,594
The bodyguard position
\h\h\h\h\h\hwas 24/7.
880
00:37:04,594 --> 00:37:08,132
\h\h\h\hIt wasn’t just
on television persona,
881
00:37:08,132 --> 00:37:10,198
\ha lot of people
didn’t like him.
882
00:37:10,198 --> 00:37:13,198
- Shawn Michaels
was misunderstood
883
00:37:13,198 --> 00:37:14,528
all throughout his career.
884
00:37:14,528 --> 00:37:16,132
There was a certain perception
885
00:37:16,132 --> 00:37:18,330
\h\h\h\h\h\hthat he was
an ass[bleep], frankly.
886
00:37:18,330 --> 00:37:19,528
Shawn was selfish.
887
00:37:19,528 --> 00:37:22,132
\h\h\h\hShawn did have
an out of control ego,
888
00:37:22,132 --> 00:37:23,396
and Shawn did
\hfeel that he
889
00:37:23,396 --> 00:37:24,528
\h\h\h\h\hwas better
than everybody else.
890
00:37:24,528 --> 00:37:29,066
To be successful and to take
\h\h\h\hit to the next level,
891
00:37:29,066 --> 00:37:32,132
you have to start looking out
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hfor yourself.
892
00:37:32,132 --> 00:37:33,594
It’s not a team sport.
893
00:37:33,594 --> 00:37:36,231
- The one thing that was
the saving grace for Shawn
894
00:37:36,231 --> 00:37:40,396
was he was so good
in the ring.
895
00:37:40,396 --> 00:37:42,264
As a performer,
if you work with a guy
896
00:37:42,264 --> 00:37:44,099
that makes you look
\h\h\h\h\hthat good,
897
00:37:44,099 --> 00:37:45,759
\h\h\h\h\hI don’t care
what you think of him,
898
00:37:45,759 --> 00:37:47,231
you want to work with him.
899
00:37:47,231 --> 00:37:50,660
- Shawn Michaels,
\hKevin Nash, Scott Hall,
900
00:37:50,660 --> 00:37:53,759
1-2-3 Kid, and then
Paul LeVesque, Triple H.
901
00:37:53,759 --> 00:37:56,594
these were guys that loved
hanging out together
902
00:37:56,594 --> 00:38:02,132
and hence the Kliq
began to form.
903
00:38:02,132 --> 00:38:04,462
- We all just hit it off,
and then it was--you know, we--
904
00:38:04,462 --> 00:38:06,396
All we did was talk non-stop
about the business and,
905
00:38:06,396 --> 00:38:10,198
you know, we were all just
so passionate about it.
906
00:38:10,198 --> 00:38:11,396
- The perception was
\h\h\h\hthat the Kliq
907
00:38:11,396 --> 00:38:13,396
was all-knowing
and all-powerful,
908
00:38:13,396 --> 00:38:15,462
and that if you crossed
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hthe Kliq,
909
00:38:15,462 --> 00:38:17,363
they’ll just go Vince
and you’ll be blackballed.
910
00:38:17,363 --> 00:38:19,132
- They couldn’t call
\hany of the shots,
911
00:38:19,132 --> 00:38:23,132
but I listened, and they had
some really good ideas.
912
00:38:23,132 --> 00:38:24,660
Really smart, individually.
913
00:38:24,660 --> 00:38:28,396
And Shawn’s very smart
when he’s sober.
914
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:30,528
Shawn had an attitude,
915
00:38:30,528 --> 00:38:34,198
when he drank even more so
\h\h\h\h\hon top of pills
916
00:38:34,198 --> 00:38:35,198
and Shawn would say,
917
00:38:35,198 --> 00:38:38,132
you know, the wrong thing
at the wrong time.
918
00:38:38,132 --> 00:38:41,132
And he was protected
in a WB environment.
919
00:38:41,132 --> 00:38:45,759
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hYou know,
but outside that environment--
920
00:38:45,759 --> 00:38:47,495
- Shawn Michaels,
British Bulldog,
921
00:38:47,495 --> 00:38:49,330
1-2-3 Kid walk into a bar.
922
00:38:49,330 --> 00:38:52,363
Me, Scott, and Kev
were in Europe.
923
00:38:52,363 --> 00:38:55,000
It was where we find out
\hthat this all happened.
924
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:56,396
Bunch of Marines
in a tough bar.
925
00:38:56,396 --> 00:39:00,396
Every eye in that place turns
\h\h\h\hto the three wrestlers
926
00:39:00,396 --> 00:39:02,000
that just walked
in the door,
927
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,099
of which Shawn
is the megastar.
928
00:39:04,099 --> 00:39:07,066
Every girl in that place
starts to look at Shawn,
929
00:39:07,066 --> 00:39:08,726
Shawn is very enamored
\h\h\h\h\h\hwith that,
930
00:39:08,726 --> 00:39:10,132
\h\h\h\hand Shawn is at
this point in his life,
931
00:39:10,132 --> 00:39:14,396
like, "[bleep] you lookin’ at?
\hIs there a problem, jarhead?"
932
00:39:14,396 --> 00:39:16,660
They go to walk out,
six Marines walk out,
933
00:39:16,660 --> 00:39:18,000
beat the [bleep] out of Shawn
934
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:21,066
and leave him in the side
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hof the car.
935
00:39:21,066 --> 00:39:22,660
\h\h\h\h- And the last
thing I can remember is,
936
00:39:22,660 --> 00:39:24,396
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hyou know,
there being the coat check.
937
00:39:24,396 --> 00:39:27,660
The next thing is waking up
\h\h\h\h\hin the hospital.
938
00:39:27,660 --> 00:39:32,627
\h\h\h\h\h\hAnd everything
else is a complete blank.
939
00:39:32,627 --> 00:39:34,000
That was four days
940
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:37,495
out of a seven day week,
situations like that.
941
00:39:37,495 --> 00:39:40,099
Getting beat up by nine guys
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hin Syracuse,
942
00:39:40,099 --> 00:39:41,264
to me, there’s not
a whole lot of shame in.
943
00:39:41,264 --> 00:39:45,132
You know, that kind of stuff
\hjust sort of happens to me.
944
00:39:45,132 --> 00:39:45,759
I’ve got two choices--
945
00:39:45,759 --> 00:39:48,495
\h\h\h\h\h\hsit home and cry,
or to come out and be a pain.
946
00:39:48,495 --> 00:39:52,363
And I got news for you,
folks, I’m all cried out.
947
00:39:52,363 --> 00:39:53,264
- This moment of existence
948
00:39:53,264 --> 00:39:55,660
was the 20 minutes
in the ring every night.
949
00:39:55,660 --> 00:39:57,198
He wouldn’t be messed up.
950
00:39:57,198 --> 00:39:59,132
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hHe’d go in there
and he’d kill it every night,
951
00:39:59,132 --> 00:40:01,660
and then the second
he was done--
952
00:40:01,660 --> 00:40:03,264
[clicks tongue]
953
00:40:03,264 --> 00:40:05,528
\h\h\h\h\h"I’m in pain,
and I took some stuff,
954
00:40:05,528 --> 00:40:08,132
"so I wouldn’t be
in pain this morning,
955
00:40:08,132 --> 00:40:09,000
but I’m messed up."
956
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:10,660
Why would you hang out
with this misery 24/7?
957
00:40:10,660 --> 00:40:13,363
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hNo, it’s not.
It’s again like your brother.
958
00:40:13,363 --> 00:40:15,198
It’s like a family member.
959
00:40:15,198 --> 00:40:17,198
Shawn owes his life
to Triple H,
960
00:40:17,198 --> 00:40:20,528
\h\h\h\hPaul Leveque,
owes his life to him.
961
00:40:20,528 --> 00:40:21,660
- Shawn Michaels knows
962
00:40:21,660 --> 00:40:25,000
that the greatest match
\h\h\h\h\h\hof his life
963
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,528
must come this Sunday night.
964
00:40:27,528 --> 00:40:30,132
\h\h\h\h\h\hBy the time
you get to the mid-90s,
965
00:40:30,132 --> 00:40:32,231
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hBret Hart
has become a crowd favorite.
966
00:40:32,231 --> 00:40:37,000
Bret is a very soft-spoken,
\hquiet, Canadian gentleman.
967
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:40,759
Shawn is an outspoken,
loud, brash American.
968
00:40:40,759 --> 00:40:45,066
\h\h\h\hOnly one person can
be the absolute alpha dog.
969
00:40:45,066 --> 00:40:48,396
\h\h\h\hThe Iron Man match,
the boyhood dream realized,
970
00:40:48,396 --> 00:40:54,000
it added another layer to the
Shawn Michaels character.
971
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:54,660
- The Iron Man match,
972
00:40:54,660 --> 00:40:56,396
it’s the opportunity
where I get to,
973
00:40:56,396 --> 00:40:59,264
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hyou know, get
my first world championship.
974
00:40:59,264 --> 00:41:02,330
- There’s only one
\hHeartbreak Kid!
975
00:41:02,330 --> 00:41:06,660
Unbelievable, what a ride!
976
00:41:06,660 --> 00:41:08,000
- An hour-long match,
977
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:11,330
it’s gonna be a long night at
the office, in wrestling terms.
978
00:41:11,330 --> 00:41:15,726
- For the WWE Championship!
979
00:41:15,726 --> 00:41:17,528
- We start to have our issues.
980
00:41:17,528 --> 00:41:20,660
You know, I was never
big on the Kliq idea.
981
00:41:20,660 --> 00:41:23,528
It was a testy match
in a lot of ways.
982
00:41:23,528 --> 00:41:25,726
- Hart’s in big trouble.
983
00:41:25,726 --> 00:41:27,759
[cheers and applause]
984
00:41:27,759 --> 00:41:29,462
- There was a famous part
985
00:41:29,462 --> 00:41:31,396
where I jump off
the second rope.
986
00:41:31,396 --> 00:41:32,396
[groans]
987
00:41:32,396 --> 00:41:35,264
He comes up and kicks me
\h\h\h\h\h\hin the face
988
00:41:35,264 --> 00:41:36,264
as hard as he could.
989
00:41:36,264 --> 00:41:37,627
I mean, he almost
knocked me out.
990
00:41:37,627 --> 00:41:38,396
- Oh, my goodness!
991
00:41:38,396 --> 00:41:40,726
We stiff each other a lot
of times in that match.
992
00:41:40,726 --> 00:41:44,000
[cheering and chatter]
993
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:47,099
- One, two, out!
994
00:41:47,099 --> 00:41:49,264
[bell dings]
995
00:41:49,264 --> 00:41:53,495
- The boyhood dream
\hhas come true!
996
00:41:53,495 --> 00:41:55,264
- The boyhood dream has
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hcome true,
997
00:41:55,264 --> 00:41:59,066
because that was Shawn’s
boyhood dream, it was.
998
00:41:59,066 --> 00:42:00,759
And that’s exactly
what happened.
999
00:42:00,759 --> 00:42:03,528
\h\h\h\h\h- It was a very
big moment for my career.
1000
00:42:03,528 --> 00:42:05,495
It’s like, oh, it’s the first
\h\h\h\h\hWorld Championship
1001
00:42:05,495 --> 00:42:08,000
\h\h\h\hand you go like, "Hmm,
I pictured it being different."
1002
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,660
\hI wasn’t at a good place
and all that kinda stuff.
1003
00:42:10,660 --> 00:42:14,066
Just a lot of responsibility
\h\h\h\hthat goes with that.
1004
00:42:14,066 --> 00:42:16,264
Now every guy in that locker
room, their well-being,
1005
00:42:16,264 --> 00:42:20,495
\h\h\h\htheir life, you know,
their livelihood and all that
1006
00:42:20,495 --> 00:42:22,528
depends on the job
that you do.
1007
00:42:22,528 --> 00:42:26,000
\h\h\h\hYou know, it all
falls on your shoulders.
1008
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,363
The whole thing
was uncomfortable.
1009
00:42:29,363 --> 00:42:34,000
- As we got into 1996,
\hTed Turner, who owned WCW,
1010
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:38,066
\h\h\h\h\hour competitors,
was being very aggressive
1011
00:42:38,066 --> 00:42:41,759
in his quest for new talent.
1012
00:42:41,759 --> 00:42:43,528
Scott Hall and Kevin Nash,
1013
00:42:43,528 --> 00:42:49,132
they were going to leave
and go to Ted Turner’s WCW.
1014
00:42:49,132 --> 00:42:51,000
The last matches being
1015
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:55,132
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hin New York
in Madison Square Garden.
1016
00:42:55,132 --> 00:42:57,396
- On my 19th, 1996,
1017
00:42:57,396 --> 00:43:00,462
one of the greatest days
\h\h\h\h\h\hof wrestling,
1018
00:43:00,462 --> 00:43:02,000
and my life as well.
1019
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:05,066
Me and my friend went
to a house show
1020
00:43:05,066 --> 00:43:06,132
which was not televised,
1021
00:43:06,132 --> 00:43:08,264
we would sneak in
a camera past security
1022
00:43:08,264 --> 00:43:10,396
and we would film the shows.
1023
00:43:10,396 --> 00:43:14,726
\h\h\h\h\hShawn was my hero
and was my idol growing up.
1024
00:43:14,726 --> 00:43:16,264
[audience cheering]
1025
00:43:16,264 --> 00:43:17,759
The ending shows
Shawn Michaels
1026
00:43:17,759 --> 00:43:19,726
giving Diesel a super kick.
1027
00:43:19,726 --> 00:43:21,528
Match is over.
1028
00:43:21,528 --> 00:43:24,528
And then all of a sudden
Razor Ramon comes out.
1029
00:43:24,528 --> 00:43:25,462
I’m like, "Oh, cool."
1030
00:43:25,462 --> 00:43:29,132
They start hugging and I’m
screaming like a little girl.
1031
00:43:29,132 --> 00:43:30,528
Oh, my God!
1032
00:43:30,528 --> 00:43:31,330
Who’s this?
1033
00:43:31,330 --> 00:43:32,594
And it turns out to be
Hunter Hurst Helmsley.
1034
00:43:32,594 --> 00:43:36,363
They all start hugging and, you
know, obviously saying goodbye.
1035
00:43:36,363 --> 00:43:40,000
\h\h\h\h\hIt was insane.
That night was magical.
1036
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:41,759
Yeah!
1037
00:43:41,759 --> 00:43:43,099
The business was
well protected
1038
00:43:43,099 --> 00:43:46,726
up until then, and our cameras
\h\h\h\h\h\hstill kept going.
1039
00:43:46,726 --> 00:43:48,396
The only camera
that was there.
1040
00:43:48,396 --> 00:43:51,528
If we were not involved
in taping the curtain call,
1041
00:43:51,528 --> 00:43:55,660
it would not be talked
about as much today.
1042
00:43:55,660 --> 00:43:57,000
- Place is going insane.
1043
00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:00,099
Everybody knows everything
on the inside of the business.
1044
00:44:00,099 --> 00:44:01,132
There’s no secrets.
1045
00:44:01,132 --> 00:44:02,396
- People in the business
\h\h\h\hdidn’t like it.
1046
00:44:02,396 --> 00:44:05,330
\h\h\h\h\h\hThey thought it was
the worst thing that happened.
1047
00:44:05,330 --> 00:44:07,528
Here’s this bad guy,
\hwho we have no idea
1048
00:44:07,528 --> 00:44:10,132
is friends with all
these other guys.
1049
00:44:10,132 --> 00:44:12,594
- It’s breaking
the fourth wall
1050
00:44:12,594 --> 00:44:13,627
and just telling people,
1051
00:44:13,627 --> 00:44:15,264
"Everything we just did
is bull [bleep]. "
1052
00:44:15,264 --> 00:44:18,495
Shawn Michaels is now hugging
\h\h\h\h\hand kissing the guy
1053
00:44:18,495 --> 00:44:22,000
that he’s just spent 20 minutes
beating the hell out of.
1054
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:23,363
We entertained you,
but now it’s all over,
1055
00:44:23,363 --> 00:44:27,264
we’re really good buddies.
Taboo in the wrestling business.
1056
00:44:27,264 --> 00:44:31,066
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- The tape
was leaked out to a writer.
1057
00:44:31,066 --> 00:44:33,000
The tape blows up on its own.
1058
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:34,660
- I had no idea
\hthat was gonna happen.
1059
00:44:34,660 --> 00:44:37,462
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hIt was something
that’s never been done before.
1060
00:44:37,462 --> 00:44:42,495
I’m watching this and going,
"What the hell is going on?"
1061
00:44:42,495 --> 00:44:45,132
The Kliq was an insult
to our business.
1062
00:44:45,132 --> 00:44:47,066
If they had done that
in the ’70s, early ’80s,
1063
00:44:47,066 --> 00:44:49,363
\hthey’d all four of them get
the [bleep] beat out of ’em.
1064
00:44:49,363 --> 00:44:54,000
They wrestle each other and
they all kiss and say goodbye.
1065
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:55,495
- Somebody’s gotta
go down for it.
1066
00:44:55,495 --> 00:44:58,660
Kev’s gone, Scott’s gone,
\h\h\h\hShawn’s the champ.
1067
00:44:58,660 --> 00:45:04,660
\hStuff rolls downhill and,
yeah, it all rolled on me.
1068
00:45:04,660 --> 00:45:06,198
- Triple H is the one
1069
00:45:06,198 --> 00:45:09,594
that probably paid
the heaviest price
1070
00:45:09,594 --> 00:45:11,264
as far as his career
1071
00:45:11,264 --> 00:45:14,396
\h\h\h\h\hkind of hitting
a roadblock at that point.
1072
00:45:14,396 --> 00:45:16,132
Shawn didn’t really
pay a price.
1073
00:45:16,132 --> 00:45:18,396
- I was inherently
selfish regardless,
1074
00:45:18,396 --> 00:45:23,660
so I’m sure I didn’t feel
the compassion for him,
1075
00:45:23,660 --> 00:45:28,132
as maybe I should have.
1076
00:45:28,132 --> 00:45:30,396
- There was a bit
\hof a shutdown on Shawn.
1077
00:45:30,396 --> 00:45:33,528
Business is--it’s okay,
but it’s not great.
1078
00:45:33,528 --> 00:45:35,000
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hYou know,
there’s a lot of banter
1079
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,660
about Shawn’s not
working as champion.
1080
00:45:37,660 --> 00:45:39,330
He’s not drawing.
1081
00:45:39,330 --> 00:45:41,462
He’s collapsing
under the pressure.
1082
00:45:41,462 --> 00:45:43,363
I can see him
falling apart.
1083
00:45:43,363 --> 00:45:47,462
Kevin and Scott are gone,
and I’m all he’s got now.
1084
00:45:47,462 --> 00:45:48,099
He’s a mess.
1085
00:45:48,099 --> 00:45:52,132
- I felt a lot of pressure
\hand I didn’t handle it well.
1086
00:45:52,132 --> 00:45:53,528
For me, it was all about
1087
00:45:53,528 --> 00:45:55,660
running and escaping,
\h\h\h\hand honestly,
1088
00:45:55,660 --> 00:45:57,099
you know, there was running
1089
00:45:57,099 --> 00:45:59,330
and escaping from the dude
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hI’d become.
1090
00:45:59,330 --> 00:46:00,627
Better than having
to face that,
1091
00:46:00,627 --> 00:46:04,198
\h\h\h\hI might just take a few
of these and knock myself out.
1092
00:46:04,198 --> 00:46:06,660
Won’t have to pay attention
to it till tomorrow.
1093
00:46:06,660 --> 00:46:08,264
- He’d be pilled up,
\h\h\h\h\hpassed out,
1094
00:46:08,264 --> 00:46:11,726
\hput Shawn on a luggage cart
and roll him up to his room,
1095
00:46:11,726 --> 00:46:14,495
\h\h\h\hand get him undressed,
take the dip out of his mouth,
1096
00:46:14,495 --> 00:46:16,000
and put him on his side,
put a pillow behind him
1097
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,264
so he wouldn’t roll over and
choke to death in his sleep.
1098
00:46:18,264 --> 00:46:21,462
And set an alarm and get up
every two, three hours
1099
00:46:21,462 --> 00:46:22,594
to go check on him.
1100
00:46:22,594 --> 00:46:24,132
And that was every night.
1101
00:46:24,132 --> 00:46:29,000
Well, you know, every night?
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hSad existence.
1102
00:46:32,660 --> 00:46:34,528
[cheers and applause]
1103
00:46:34,528 --> 00:46:37,000
- What everybody
has to understand
1104
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:39,396
about Shawn Michaels
\h\h\h\h\his this--
1105
00:46:39,396 --> 00:46:40,396
If I wanna come out here
1106
00:46:40,396 --> 00:46:44,594
and look like a blithering
\h\h\h\h\hidiot on live TV,
1107
00:46:44,594 --> 00:46:47,132
believe me, I’m gonna do it.
1108
00:46:47,132 --> 00:46:50,198
\h\h\h\h\hWhy?
Because I can.
1109
00:46:50,198 --> 00:46:53,132
- He had a drug problem
\h\h\h\h\h\hfor a while,
1110
00:46:53,132 --> 00:46:54,132
a serious one,
1111
00:46:54,132 --> 00:46:58,396
and he kind of fell
in the hole even deeper.
1112
00:46:58,396 --> 00:47:02,330
But it wasn’t until
he became champion
1113
00:47:02,330 --> 00:47:04,660
that I felt that Shawn, uh,
1114
00:47:04,660 --> 00:47:08,528
started to question himself.
1115
00:47:08,528 --> 00:47:11,000
- I called his dad,
\h\h\h\hthe colonel,
1116
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,099
\h\h\h\h\hand said,
"I’d like to visit."
1117
00:47:13,099 --> 00:47:14,396
So I flew down to meet him
1118
00:47:14,396 --> 00:47:17,330
and I’m saying, "You’re probably
not aware of this,
1119
00:47:17,330 --> 00:47:20,660
\h\h\h\hShawn really
has a drug problem."
1120
00:47:20,660 --> 00:47:22,198
The colonel got angry.
1121
00:47:22,198 --> 00:47:25,231
He just didn’t want to hear it.
1122
00:47:25,231 --> 00:47:27,627
- I don’t know that anybody
knew how to address it.
1123
00:47:27,627 --> 00:47:30,363
Even things like rehab,
\h\h\h\h\h\hmy parents,
1124
00:47:30,363 --> 00:47:31,132
you know, God love ’em,
1125
00:47:31,132 --> 00:47:34,066
I don’t that they knew
what it was that you did,
1126
00:47:34,066 --> 00:47:35,099
except just to be worried.
1127
00:47:35,099 --> 00:47:38,495
Not long after that
\hI tweaked my knee.
1128
00:47:38,495 --> 00:47:40,396
[cheers and applause]
1129
00:47:40,396 --> 00:47:42,132
I went to this dude
in San Antonio
1130
00:47:42,132 --> 00:47:44,528
who doesn’t know anything
\h\h\h\h\habout wrestling,
1131
00:47:44,528 --> 00:47:46,264
and obviously sees
I’ve torn my ACL
1132
00:47:46,264 --> 00:47:47,627
and he’s like,
"Dude, you’re done."
1133
00:47:47,627 --> 00:47:52,363
You know, he said, "You’re not
wrestling with a torn ACL."
1134
00:47:52,363 --> 00:47:56,231
\h\h\h\hI know that over
the last several months,
1135
00:47:56,231 --> 00:47:57,726
I’ve lost a lot of things,
1136
00:47:57,726 --> 00:47:59,099
and one of them
has been my smile.
1137
00:47:59,099 --> 00:48:02,660
- He went in the ring
\hto announce he was retiring
1138
00:48:02,660 --> 00:48:04,264
’cause he had a bad knee.
1139
00:48:04,264 --> 00:48:06,528
I didn’t believe his knee
\h\h\h\h\h\hwas the issue.
1140
00:48:06,528 --> 00:48:08,363
I always thought
the issue was
1141
00:48:08,363 --> 00:48:12,066
he didn’t want to wrestle me
\h\h\h\h\hat WrestleMania 13
1142
00:48:12,066 --> 00:48:13,066
and drop the belt to me.
1143
00:48:13,066 --> 00:48:17,495
I doubted Shawn’s integrity
as far as his injury went.
1144
00:48:17,495 --> 00:48:18,363
You phony little faker,
1145
00:48:18,363 --> 00:48:20,264
why don’t you take your little
\h\h\h\h\h\hpussyfoot injury--
1146
00:48:20,264 --> 00:48:21,396
\h\h\h\h\h\h- All right,
all right, knock it off.
1147
00:48:21,396 --> 00:48:24,264
No, no, no.
- It’s all right.
1148
00:48:24,264 --> 00:48:25,264
I’m not going anywhere.
1149
00:48:25,264 --> 00:48:26,660
\h\h\h\h- And go back
and find your smile.
1150
00:48:26,660 --> 00:48:28,264
- I got accused
\hof faking it.
1151
00:48:28,264 --> 00:48:29,594
Bret told everybody
I was faking it.
1152
00:48:29,594 --> 00:48:34,000
My excuse is drug addicts
\h\h\h\hlie all the time.
1153
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:34,660
Well, there’s no doubt
1154
00:48:34,660 --> 00:48:36,660
that you found your smile
again as you stated...
1155
00:48:36,660 --> 00:48:39,000
\h\h\h\h\h\h- A year off
of the wrestling business
1156
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:39,660
was a year of no pay.
1157
00:48:39,660 --> 00:48:42,495
That’s just not--
That isn’t feasible.
1158
00:48:42,495 --> 00:48:45,495
And they said, "Well, look,
you can put a brace on it
1159
00:48:45,495 --> 00:48:46,462
and wrap it up."
1160
00:48:46,462 --> 00:48:48,528
They went and they got me
a brace and everything else.
1161
00:48:48,528 --> 00:48:50,627
I was like, "Okay,
I can do this."
1162
00:48:50,627 --> 00:48:54,000
\h\h\h\hAnd it is time
for the Heartbreak Kid,
1163
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:57,132
Shawn Michaels
to return to action!
1164
00:48:57,132 --> 00:48:58,099
[suspenseful music]
1165
00:48:58,099 --> 00:49:02,132
-This was a moment where
things needed to change.
1166
00:49:02,132 --> 00:49:03,660
Business was bad.
1167
00:49:03,660 --> 00:49:05,264
WCW was starting to kill us.
1168
00:49:05,264 --> 00:49:06,396
Put Shawn and I
together on TV.
1169
00:49:06,396 --> 00:49:10,594
We will multiply each other’s
personalities on screen.
1170
00:49:10,594 --> 00:49:13,495
Put us together.
DX is born.
1171
00:49:13,495 --> 00:49:14,660
[hard rock music]
1172
00:49:14,660 --> 00:49:16,627
\h\h\h\h- ♪ Degenerate
into something fool ♪
1173
00:49:16,627 --> 00:49:20,132
♪ We just got tired of doing
what you told us to do ♪
1174
00:49:20,132 --> 00:49:23,132
- Degeneration X
\hconsisted of Shawn,
1175
00:49:23,132 --> 00:49:24,066
Triple H, and Chyna.
1176
00:49:24,066 --> 00:49:28,363
Two goofs in Shawn and Hunter
\h\h\h\h\hthat were immature,
1177
00:49:28,363 --> 00:49:32,363
and did everything that
you weren’t supposed to do.
1178
00:49:32,363 --> 00:49:34,000
- Shawn Michaels,
1179
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:36,396
\h\h\h\h\hyou’re a disgrace
to professional wrestling.
1180
00:49:36,396 --> 00:49:40,330
\h\h\h\hI saw it as inmates
had taken over the asylum.
1181
00:49:40,330 --> 00:49:41,726
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hI’m gonna
start with the degenerate
1182
00:49:41,726 --> 00:49:44,000
\h\h\h\h\hright beside
you in the green shirt.
1183
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:46,132
- ♪ Degeneration X
1184
00:49:46,132 --> 00:49:48,660
- Suck it!
[laughs]
1185
00:49:48,660 --> 00:49:50,660
- Yeah, I can’t say
\h\h\h\hI liked it.
1186
00:49:50,660 --> 00:49:53,363
That smut and
the crotch shots.
1187
00:49:53,363 --> 00:49:55,231
It did get pretty raunchy.
1188
00:49:55,231 --> 00:49:56,660
- I don’t think
it was over the line.
1189
00:49:56,660 --> 00:50:00,363
You know, we were getting our
tails kicked in the ratings.
1190
00:50:00,363 --> 00:50:05,000
DX took it to the very,
very tipping point
1191
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:06,594
of going too far.
1192
00:50:06,594 --> 00:50:08,132
But that’s what we needed.
1193
00:50:08,132 --> 00:50:12,462
It was kind of a whole facelift
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hfor the company.
1194
00:50:12,462 --> 00:50:13,132
They loved it.
1195
00:50:13,132 --> 00:50:15,198
\hRatings are going up,
your segments are hot.
1196
00:50:15,198 --> 00:50:16,000
We are the Degeneration X,
1197
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:20,396
you make the rules,
and we will break ’em!
1198
00:50:20,396 --> 00:50:21,660
- They were the anti-authority.
1199
00:50:21,660 --> 00:50:23,264
They could do anything
\h\h\h\h\hthey wanted.
1200
00:50:23,264 --> 00:50:25,198
- We were just trying
\hto make each other laugh,
1201
00:50:25,198 --> 00:50:27,099
say something so stupid
that people would go,
1202
00:50:27,099 --> 00:50:29,000
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h"Oh, my God,
I can’t believe he said that."
1203
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:32,495
Your old lady is not too
thrilled with your privates.
1204
00:50:32,495 --> 00:50:35,231
- You would think, like, okay,
so now everything’s great
1205
00:50:35,231 --> 00:50:36,330
backstage with Shawn.
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hNo.
1206
00:50:36,330 --> 00:50:38,330
We’re still approaching this
from a place of anger.
1207
00:50:38,330 --> 00:50:40,231
We know we’re
pissing people off
1208
00:50:40,231 --> 00:50:42,264
and we’re trying
to be dicks.
1209
00:50:42,264 --> 00:50:44,396
- I got in trouble
for a lot of stuff
1210
00:50:44,396 --> 00:50:46,099
that we all thought was funny,
1211
00:50:46,099 --> 00:50:48,396
and clearly we might have been
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hthe only ones.
1212
00:50:48,396 --> 00:50:53,000
\h\h\h\hI’m goin’ out
in a blaze of glory!
1213
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:54,264
[cheers and applause]
1214
00:50:54,264 --> 00:50:57,660
- At that point,
\hShawn’s DX personality
1215
00:50:57,660 --> 00:51:00,660
and his real personality
have kind of morphed,
1216
00:51:00,660 --> 00:51:03,594
so Shawn really
never turned it off.
1217
00:51:03,594 --> 00:51:06,198
- This is what
it’s come down to,
1218
00:51:06,198 --> 00:51:07,264
they’re looking at somebody
1219
00:51:07,264 --> 00:51:09,660
that’s got no respect
\h\h\h\hfor anything.
1220
00:51:09,660 --> 00:51:12,726
- There was a true animosity
1221
00:51:12,726 --> 00:51:14,066
between Bret and Shawn,
1222
00:51:14,066 --> 00:51:16,198
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hjust spiraled
completely out of control.
1223
00:51:16,198 --> 00:51:20,462
\h\h\h\h- In the beginning,
Shawn and Bret were friends
1224
00:51:20,462 --> 00:51:24,462
and the antagonistic
\h\h\h\hrelationship
1225
00:51:24,462 --> 00:51:29,396
that they had on camera,
that was all orchestrated.
1226
00:51:29,396 --> 00:51:30,660
But it became personal.
1227
00:51:30,660 --> 00:51:33,396
It became personal
between Bret and Shawn,
1228
00:51:33,396 --> 00:51:34,759
because one guy
would go too far.
1229
00:51:34,759 --> 00:51:39,264
- I never knew enough
\hto avoid the confrontation.
1230
00:51:39,264 --> 00:51:42,066
If something bothered Bret,
I made sure that I did it.
1231
00:51:42,066 --> 00:51:45,066
He stabbed the WWE in the back.
1232
00:51:45,066 --> 00:51:48,198
Why? For his financial gain.
1233
00:51:48,198 --> 00:51:50,000
- Instead of facing me
\h\h\h\h\h\hlike a man,
1234
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:53,528
but you were too busy posing
\h\h\h\hfor girlie magazines.
1235
00:51:53,528 --> 00:51:55,231
You know, you don’t
like me talking about you
1236
00:51:55,231 --> 00:51:58,396
posing for "Playgirl," but
you did pose for "Playgirl."
1237
00:51:58,396 --> 00:52:02,495
And we finally had a fisticuff
\h\h\h\h\hin the dressing room.
1238
00:52:02,495 --> 00:52:04,528
- Oh, my God, Bret and Shawn
\h\h\h\hjust got into a fight
1239
00:52:04,528 --> 00:52:07,363
and pulled each other hair
\hin the locker room. What?
1240
00:52:07,363 --> 00:52:08,594
I run over there
\hand find Shawn,
1241
00:52:08,594 --> 00:52:10,132
he’s got a big chunk
of hair missing
1242
00:52:10,132 --> 00:52:11,594
out of the side of his head.
\h\h\h\h"What are you doing?"
1243
00:52:11,594 --> 00:52:13,264
- I realize that
I hate your guts.
1244
00:52:13,264 --> 00:52:15,759
\h\h\h\h\h- We had a lot
of these resets and talks,
1245
00:52:15,759 --> 00:52:19,363
and we would always end up
offending each other quickly
1246
00:52:19,363 --> 00:52:21,660
right after that.
\h\h\h\h[laughs]
1247
00:52:24,396 --> 00:52:25,099
- We are live
1248
00:52:25,099 --> 00:52:29,264
in the sold-out Molson Centre
\h\h\h\h\hin Montréal, Quebec,
1249
00:52:29,264 --> 00:52:34,132
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hwhere tonight,
it will finally be settled.
1250
00:52:34,132 --> 00:52:36,594
Who is the man?
1251
00:52:36,594 --> 00:52:38,330
- Bret is the champion,
1252
00:52:38,330 --> 00:52:40,627
but Bret’s on his way to WCW,
1253
00:52:40,627 --> 00:52:44,627
and he doesn’t wanna drop
the title to Shawn.
1254
00:52:44,627 --> 00:52:48,264
But they couldn’t let Bret
leave with the title,
1255
00:52:48,264 --> 00:52:52,099
\h\h\h\hand then show up
on WCW TV the next night.
1256
00:52:52,099 --> 00:52:55,000
- Who’s gonna win?
1257
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:55,726
- I don’t know.
1258
00:52:55,726 --> 00:52:58,099
- Bret thought the match
\hwas going to go one way,
1259
00:52:58,099 --> 00:53:02,726
Shawn and Vince McMahon come
up with a different plan.
1260
00:53:02,726 --> 00:53:05,330
Bret doesn’t know
about the plan.
1261
00:53:05,330 --> 00:53:07,660
- We’re being told by Vince,
1262
00:53:07,660 --> 00:53:10,000
like, this goes to your grave.
1263
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:13,594
This is high-level
espionage, man.
1264
00:53:13,594 --> 00:53:15,363
Nobody ever knows this.
1265
00:53:15,363 --> 00:53:18,396
\h\h\h\h\h- It’s kind of
what’s best for business.
1266
00:53:18,396 --> 00:53:19,198
- Look out!
1267
00:53:19,198 --> 00:53:21,231
Shawn Michaels is not
gonna waste any time.
1268
00:53:21,231 --> 00:53:23,660
- The whole thing
was uncomfortable.
1269
00:53:23,660 --> 00:53:27,528
I was out there,
you know, being Judas.
1270
00:53:27,528 --> 00:53:31,264
[dramatic music]
1271
00:53:31,264 --> 00:53:32,759
[groans]
1272
00:53:32,759 --> 00:53:34,132
- They had created a spot
1273
00:53:34,132 --> 00:53:37,330
where Shawn was gonna put
\h\h\h\h\h\hBret’s move,
1274
00:53:37,330 --> 00:53:42,066
which is a submission hold,
the Sharpshooter, on Bret.
1275
00:53:42,066 --> 00:53:43,462
- Look at this!
1276
00:53:43,462 --> 00:53:44,759
- Oh, you’re kidding me.
1277
00:53:44,759 --> 00:53:48,396
- It’s definitely one
\hof the most fabled stories
1278
00:53:48,396 --> 00:53:49,627
in our industry.
1279
00:53:49,627 --> 00:53:51,132
The Montreal Screw Job.
1280
00:53:51,132 --> 00:53:54,231
- It’s just minutes
\hinto that match,
1281
00:53:54,231 --> 00:53:57,000
not one person on Planet Earth
1282
00:53:57,000 --> 00:54:00,132
thinks the match
is going to end.
1283
00:54:00,132 --> 00:54:02,495
- Are you kidding me?
1284
00:54:02,495 --> 00:54:05,363
[bell rings]
1285
00:54:05,363 --> 00:54:08,528
[rock music playing]
1286
00:54:08,528 --> 00:54:10,759
- So when, all of a sudden,
\h\h\h\h\h\hthe bell rings,
1287
00:54:10,759 --> 00:54:15,660
there’s complete confusion
as to why the match has ended.
1288
00:54:15,660 --> 00:54:16,627
- What happened?
1289
00:54:16,627 --> 00:54:18,396
Bret Hart gave up
in a Sharpshooter.
1290
00:54:18,396 --> 00:54:21,627
- He said, "Bret submitted,"
\h\h\h\hwhich didn’t happen.
1291
00:54:21,627 --> 00:54:25,264
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Wow,
you talk about controversy.
1292
00:54:25,264 --> 00:54:26,198
- It was basically a hit
1293
00:54:26,198 --> 00:54:29,198
to make sure that they got
the title off of Bret.
1294
00:54:29,198 --> 00:54:32,132
- Ring the bell!
Ring the bell!
1295
00:54:32,132 --> 00:54:35,000
\h\h\h\h\h- I could see Vince
yell at him to ring the bell.
1296
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:37,000
- Ring the bell!
[bell rings]
1297
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:38,660
- Like, "They’re trying
to screw me now."
1298
00:54:38,660 --> 00:54:40,396
\h\h\h\h- Michaels
with a Sharpshooter
1299
00:54:40,396 --> 00:54:43,132
has become the WWE Champion!
1300
00:54:43,132 --> 00:54:47,528
And Bret Hart is standing
\h\h\h\h\h\hin disbelief.
1301
00:54:47,528 --> 00:54:49,066
- He didn’t know
\hVince was coming out.
1302
00:54:49,066 --> 00:54:52,066
I think he just felt like
maybe if he was out there,
1303
00:54:52,066 --> 00:54:53,264
he might get some heat off me,
1304
00:54:53,264 --> 00:54:57,660
you know, thus making
my denial plausible.
1305
00:55:05,264 --> 00:55:08,330
Vince says, "I wanna
take the heat for this.
1306
00:55:08,330 --> 00:55:09,264
"I don’t want
anyone to think
1307
00:55:09,264 --> 00:55:10,528
you had anything
\hto do with it."
1308
00:55:10,528 --> 00:55:11,660
- Maybe you could go?
1309
00:55:11,660 --> 00:55:13,264
- Okay, let’s get outta here.
1310
00:55:13,264 --> 00:55:14,396
- I took the heat,
and should have.
1311
00:55:14,396 --> 00:55:17,660
I didn’t want anyone
to know Shawn was involved.
1312
00:55:17,660 --> 00:55:22,264
And Bret comes over and knocks
\h\h\h\h\hthe [bleep] outta me.
1313
00:55:22,264 --> 00:55:26,066
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hOne punch,
and knocked him out cold.
1314
00:55:26,066 --> 00:55:28,396
He went straight
down on his back.
1315
00:55:28,396 --> 00:55:29,330
Out cold.
1316
00:55:29,330 --> 00:55:33,759
And after I knocked Vince out,
1317
00:55:33,759 --> 00:55:35,099
Shawn was crying.
1318
00:55:35,099 --> 00:55:38,066
Shawn was sat on the bench
\h\h\h\h\h\hand was crying.
1319
00:55:38,066 --> 00:55:39,264
- And even though
\hI didn’t feel
1320
00:55:39,264 --> 00:55:40,528
like I did anything wrong
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hthat night,
1321
00:55:40,528 --> 00:55:45,495
you’re still carrying a burden
by not coming clean with that.
1322
00:55:45,495 --> 00:55:47,396
To say, "Yes, I knew."
1323
00:55:47,396 --> 00:55:50,066
- Vince asked Shawn
\hto do something
1324
00:55:50,066 --> 00:55:51,660
for everyone in this company.
1325
00:55:51,660 --> 00:55:54,132
Who else would have had
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hthe balls,
1326
00:55:54,132 --> 00:55:57,000
the guts, right or wrong,
1327
00:55:57,000 --> 00:56:00,264
how many other people would
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hhave done it?
1328
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:07,099
\h\h\h\h- I remember going
to his house in San Antonio,
1329
00:56:07,099 --> 00:56:08,396
and I’m driving
my minivan down there.
1330
00:56:08,396 --> 00:56:09,528
I’ve got my wife
and three kids at home,
1331
00:56:09,528 --> 00:56:12,528
and I pull into his
gorgeous home.
1332
00:56:12,528 --> 00:56:15,066
I don’t have 20 bucks
\h\h\h\hin my pocket.
1333
00:56:15,066 --> 00:56:15,660
And I’ll never forget,
1334
00:56:15,660 --> 00:56:18,726
he put his arms out like this,
\h\h\h\h\hand he just looked up
1335
00:56:18,726 --> 00:56:22,330
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hand he goes,
"You could have had all this."
1336
00:56:22,330 --> 00:56:25,330
But I realize, you know,
somewhere along the way,
1337
00:56:25,330 --> 00:56:27,495
that I saw him lose so much.
1338
00:56:27,495 --> 00:56:28,231
He got into drugs
1339
00:56:28,231 --> 00:56:31,264
and there were some really bad
side effects to his fame.
1340
00:56:31,264 --> 00:56:33,726
- I looked at Kenny
\ha lot of times,
1341
00:56:33,726 --> 00:56:35,660
and having a wife
and a family,
1342
00:56:35,660 --> 00:56:38,759
and just being as happy
\h\h\h\h\h\h\has can be.
1343
00:56:38,759 --> 00:56:40,528
And I’ve always looked
\h\h\h\hat and admired,
1344
00:56:40,528 --> 00:56:44,594
and thought it was pretty
\h\h\h\henviable to have.
1345
00:56:44,594 --> 00:56:47,528
But in my line of work,
it was always wondering
1346
00:56:47,528 --> 00:56:52,627
can you have both,
or is that not possible?
1347
00:56:52,627 --> 00:56:54,759
They don’t mix.
1348
00:56:54,759 --> 00:56:57,759
[cheers and applause]
1349
00:56:57,759 --> 00:57:02,462
\h\h\h\h\h- The following
contest is a casket match
1350
00:57:02,462 --> 00:57:07,231
for the WWE Championship!
1351
00:57:07,231 --> 00:57:09,330
[cheers and applause]
1352
00:57:09,330 --> 00:57:10,528
- This casket match
1353
00:57:10,528 --> 00:57:14,528
is the Undertaker’s specialty.
1354
00:57:14,528 --> 00:57:16,330
- The object of a casket match
1355
00:57:16,330 --> 00:57:18,099
is to beat your opponent down
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hfar enough
1356
00:57:18,099 --> 00:57:21,462
that you can throw them
into the casket or coffin
1357
00:57:21,462 --> 00:57:22,231
and shut the lid.
1358
00:57:22,231 --> 00:57:25,660
And if you do that,
you win the match.
1359
00:57:25,660 --> 00:57:29,000
Somewhere through the course
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hof that match,
1360
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:33,726
I threw him over
this giant coffin...
1361
00:57:33,726 --> 00:57:35,528
[grunts]
1362
00:57:35,528 --> 00:57:37,000
- Michaels’ back dropped
1363
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:38,594
on that big old wooden casket.
1364
00:57:38,594 --> 00:57:41,495
I wanted to clear it
and go to the floor,
1365
00:57:41,495 --> 00:57:44,264
and I just didn’t quite
\h\h\h\hget far enough,
1366
00:57:44,264 --> 00:57:45,660
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hand bam,
I just hit the corner.
1367
00:57:45,660 --> 00:57:48,000
\hBut I didn’t really
think much about it.
1368
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:49,363
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hYou know,
you still finish the match.
1369
00:57:49,363 --> 00:57:51,495
- Look at the look
on his face!
1370
00:57:51,495 --> 00:57:53,264
The Undertaker
dragging Michaels
1371
00:57:53,264 --> 00:57:55,660
right down into
the depths of Hell!
1372
00:57:55,660 --> 00:57:58,132
The next day, I just
remember getting up like,
1373
00:57:58,132 --> 00:58:03,000
ah, you know, waking up
and not being able to move.
1374
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:06,264
First time I recall
being in that much pain.
1375
00:58:06,264 --> 00:58:08,462
We do all the X-rays.
1376
00:58:08,462 --> 00:58:09,264
Apparently, I blew a disc,
1377
00:58:09,264 --> 00:58:12,759
and that’s the kind of stuff
that needs to be fused.
1378
00:58:12,759 --> 00:58:16,132
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hDoctor says, "Oh,
you can’t wrestle after that."
1379
00:58:16,132 --> 00:58:18,495
\h\h\h\h\h[explosion]
[cheers and applause]
1380
00:58:18,495 --> 00:58:22,264
He said I’m never gonna wrestle
again, yadda, yadda, yadda.
1381
00:58:22,264 --> 00:58:23,660
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hAnd I said,
"Nobody tells me what to do,
1382
00:58:23,660 --> 00:58:26,759
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hso we’re going
to WrestleMania with Steve."
1383
00:58:26,759 --> 00:58:30,000
\h\h\h\hYou have never,
ever had one of these!
1384
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:31,363
So you give me enough drugs,
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hall right,
1385
00:58:31,363 --> 00:58:36,132
so let’s do whatever we can
to get me to WrestleMania.
1386
00:58:36,132 --> 00:58:40,396
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Getting Shawn
to WrestleMania was a battle.
1387
00:58:40,396 --> 00:58:45,726
He had a bad back,
he was heavily medicated.
1388
00:58:45,726 --> 00:58:47,528
He is the WWE Champion
1389
00:58:47,528 --> 00:58:49,363
and the man who will
defend his title
1390
00:58:49,363 --> 00:58:50,132
against Stone Cold,
1391
00:58:50,132 --> 00:58:52,000
\hwith Mike Tyson
as the Enforcer.
1392
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:54,660
Here, ladies and gentlemen,
\h\h\h\h\h\hShawn Michaels.
1393
00:58:54,660 --> 00:58:56,528
- I choose to make an ass
1394
00:58:56,528 --> 00:58:59,396
out of a toughest SOB.
1395
00:58:59,396 --> 00:59:02,099
I can do that anytime I want.
1396
00:59:03,330 --> 00:59:07,099
[overlapping chatter]
1397
00:59:07,099 --> 00:59:09,330
\h\h\h\h- I was gonna
have to dope myself up
1398
00:59:09,330 --> 00:59:10,660
and drop the belt to Steve,
1399
00:59:10,660 --> 00:59:14,363
\h\h\h\h\hand then I guess
I’ll let my career be over.
1400
00:59:14,363 --> 00:59:16,198
[dramatic music]
1401
00:59:16,198 --> 00:59:17,198
- He was bitter.
1402
00:59:17,198 --> 00:59:19,495
It had nothing to do
with him losing,
1403
00:59:19,495 --> 00:59:21,132
it had to do with being
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hreplaced.
1404
00:59:21,132 --> 00:59:24,198
He never had his moment.
He never had his run.
1405
00:59:24,198 --> 00:59:26,264
I’m still the greatest.
\h\h\h\hAnd then this--
1406
00:59:26,264 --> 00:59:27,132
Now it’s his run.
1407
00:59:27,132 --> 00:59:30,462
\h\h\h\h\hWhat do I do?
Now I’m the backup guy?
1408
00:59:30,462 --> 00:59:31,495
\hOne of the most
messed-up things
1409
00:59:31,495 --> 00:59:33,231
I ever heard Shawn say
\h\h\h\hin his life is,
1410
00:59:33,231 --> 00:59:34,528
"I should’ve taken
so many pills,
1411
00:59:34,528 --> 00:59:35,726
"I died after WrestleMania 10.
1412
00:59:35,726 --> 00:59:38,198
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h"I’d have been
the biggest star of all time.
1413
00:59:38,198 --> 00:59:41,132
I’d have been Elvis."
1414
00:59:41,132 --> 00:59:42,231
- It’s hopelessness,
1415
00:59:42,231 --> 00:59:44,132
and certainly,
that’s where I was.
1416
00:59:44,132 --> 00:59:48,363
I am not just, uh, you know,
\h\h\h\h\h\h\ha drug addict.
1417
00:59:48,363 --> 00:59:49,132
I’m an angry one,
1418
00:59:49,132 --> 00:59:51,330
and I mean angrier than ever.
1419
00:59:51,330 --> 00:59:53,726
At that time in my life,
that’s all I had.
1420
00:59:53,726 --> 00:59:57,528
I identified who I was with
what I was doing in that ring.
1421
00:59:57,528 --> 01:00:02,198
And without it, I wouldn’t have
known what to do with my life.
1422
01:00:02,198 --> 01:00:03,528
[cheers and applause]
1423
01:00:03,528 --> 01:00:06,198
\h\h\h\h- On the day
of WrestleMania 14,
1424
01:00:06,198 --> 01:00:07,528
we barely talked.
1425
01:00:07,528 --> 01:00:09,759
He didn’t feel like doing
\h\h\h\hbusiness with me.
1426
01:00:09,759 --> 01:00:14,363
Triple H was a conduit
between most of it.
1427
01:00:14,363 --> 01:00:15,264
- He was pissed.
1428
01:00:15,264 --> 01:00:17,198
He wasn’t about to talk
to Steve about this match.
1429
01:00:17,198 --> 01:00:20,264
I helped him put it together
\hby going from room to room,
1430
01:00:20,264 --> 01:00:22,660
and it was just--it was
so difficult to do.
1431
01:00:22,660 --> 01:00:25,528
- It was difficult.
I remember that day.
1432
01:00:25,528 --> 01:00:30,330
I’m thinking, I don’t know
\hwhat Shawn’s going to do.
1433
01:00:30,330 --> 01:00:31,132
- He’s retiring,
1434
01:00:31,132 --> 01:00:34,264
you know, this could be
his final screw you.
1435
01:00:34,264 --> 01:00:37,396
- Nobody has ever,
\hever outperformed
1436
01:00:37,396 --> 01:00:41,396
\h\h\h\h\h\hShawn Michaels
in a big match situation.
1437
01:00:41,396 --> 01:00:42,528
- I’m not in great shape.
1438
01:00:42,528 --> 01:00:46,528
My back, pretty bad
being in that much pain.
1439
01:00:46,528 --> 01:00:49,495
Get the cortisone shots
and stuff like that.
1440
01:00:49,495 --> 01:00:51,132
- Oh, my God!
1441
01:00:51,132 --> 01:00:54,528
I feel like I’m putting him
over, that’s good enough.
1442
01:00:54,528 --> 01:00:58,660
- Awesome, he got it!
\h\h\h\hThe Stunner!
1443
01:00:58,660 --> 01:01:01,231
Mike Tyson in!
1444
01:01:01,231 --> 01:01:03,066
[cheers and applause]
1445
01:01:03,066 --> 01:01:04,363
- Shawn’s always
\hbeen a troublemaker,
1446
01:01:04,363 --> 01:01:07,000
he always wants to get in your
\h\h\h\h\h\hface, talk [bleep].
1447
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:09,000
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hEven when he’s
on your team, he was talking.
1448
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:12,198
He’s an irritant,
that’s what he is.
1449
01:01:12,198 --> 01:01:18,198
Shawn, um, has sour grapes.
1450
01:01:18,198 --> 01:01:20,000
[cheers and applause]
1451
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:21,528
- Tyson! Tyson!
1452
01:01:21,528 --> 01:01:22,495
- It was kind of a close blow,
1453
01:01:22,495 --> 01:01:28,495
’cause Shawn was pretty much
out for a little while.
1454
01:01:28,495 --> 01:01:30,495
\h\h\h\h- Tyson takes
the Austin 3:16 shirt
1455
01:01:30,495 --> 01:01:32,660
\h\h\h\h\hand lays it
across Shawn’s chest.
1456
01:01:32,660 --> 01:01:34,495
This was adding
insult to injury,
1457
01:01:34,495 --> 01:01:37,000
and this was rubbing salt
\h\h\h\h\h\hin the wound.
1458
01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:39,132
I would have been pissed too.
1459
01:01:39,132 --> 01:01:40,726
- Not exactly the screw job,
1460
01:01:40,726 --> 01:01:43,528
but it was them
getting the last laugh
1461
01:01:43,528 --> 01:01:46,594
as far as, you know,
"Good, little prick,
1462
01:01:46,594 --> 01:01:48,000
"you put us through hell
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hthis week,
1463
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:50,528
but we’re at least gonna
get you going out the door."
1464
01:01:50,528 --> 01:01:53,132
- The new WWE Champion,
1465
01:01:53,132 --> 01:01:55,495
Stone Cold Steve Austin.
1466
01:01:55,495 --> 01:01:56,396
[applause]
1467
01:01:56,396 --> 01:01:58,495
\h\h\h\h\h\hHe was going
to that press conference
1468
01:01:58,495 --> 01:02:01,231
to just let everybody
\hknow I’m pissed off.
1469
01:02:01,231 --> 01:02:05,396
He walked in the door
and he yelled some stuff.
1470
01:02:05,396 --> 01:02:06,627
- Oh, yeah. It’s [bleep] up.
1471
01:02:06,627 --> 01:02:08,495
It was just--it’s selfish
\h\h\h\hand it’s stupid,
1472
01:02:08,495 --> 01:02:12,660
but, you know, that’s
where he was at that time.
1473
01:02:12,660 --> 01:02:15,660
- Shawn is suffering
from ruptured disc
1474
01:02:15,660 --> 01:02:18,627
\h\h\h\h\h\has we speak,
and will not participate
1475
01:02:18,627 --> 01:02:20,000
at this press conference.
1476
01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:23,660
Nonetheless, he participated,
\h\h\h\h\h\huh, in the arena
1477
01:02:23,660 --> 01:02:25,132
in an extraordinary way,
1478
01:02:25,132 --> 01:02:26,363
\h\h\h\h\hand there is
no athlete in the world
1479
01:02:26,363 --> 01:02:30,627
that can say they can do
what Shawn Michaels does.
1480
01:02:30,627 --> 01:02:32,000
[dramatic music]
1481
01:02:35,726 --> 01:02:38,231
[soft music]
1482
01:02:38,231 --> 01:02:40,396
- I got on the plane
\hthe next morning
1483
01:02:40,396 --> 01:02:44,726
and went home and began to,
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hI don’t know,
1484
01:02:44,726 --> 01:02:47,363
let it all sort of sink in.
1485
01:02:47,363 --> 01:02:48,264
It takes some time
1486
01:02:48,264 --> 01:02:52,132
before it goes from being
time off to the reality
1487
01:02:52,132 --> 01:02:56,198
of how exactly is the rest
of your life gonna go
1488
01:02:56,198 --> 01:02:59,330
when you’re done at 33?
1489
01:02:59,330 --> 01:03:02,396
Okay, see if I can
get one done here.
1490
01:03:02,396 --> 01:03:03,726
All they knew at the time
1491
01:03:03,726 --> 01:03:07,066
was stuff like that,
you don’t recover from,
1492
01:03:07,066 --> 01:03:10,000
\h\h\h\h\hpeople don’t get back
in the ring and wrestle again.
1493
01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:10,462
The thing is,
1494
01:03:10,462 --> 01:03:14,594
I can’t keep coming out here
week after week after week
1495
01:03:14,594 --> 01:03:16,330
going back and forth
with all this.
1496
01:03:16,330 --> 01:03:19,231
I get to get busy with my
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hrehab--
1497
01:03:19,231 --> 01:03:20,462
My physical therapy.
1498
01:03:20,462 --> 01:03:24,000
My physical therapy
for my back.
1499
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:24,330
[sighs]
1500
01:03:24,330 --> 01:03:27,528
Now I’ve got a legitimate
reason to have pain pills
1501
01:03:27,528 --> 01:03:32,594
and I’ve got a prescription
\h\h\h\hand everything else.
1502
01:03:32,594 --> 01:03:34,132
I just wanna be a pro wrestler.
1503
01:03:34,132 --> 01:03:35,759
That’s what I was trying
\h\h\h\h\hto go back to.
1504
01:03:35,759 --> 01:03:40,099
So I began to start the Shawn
Michaels Wrestling Academy.
1505
01:03:40,099 --> 01:03:42,363
We had a couple of rings,
I had a little workout room.
1506
01:03:42,363 --> 01:03:45,660
There were a couple of guys
that came through my school
1507
01:03:45,660 --> 01:03:48,396
that went on to have
\h\h\h\hWWE success.
1508
01:03:48,396 --> 01:03:50,264
It was a great experience,
\h\h\h\h\h\hit really was.
1509
01:03:50,264 --> 01:03:54,198
\h\h\h\h\hI did it for about
two and a half, three years.
1510
01:03:54,198 --> 01:03:58,495
So I’m at home,
and I’m watching TV,
1511
01:03:58,495 --> 01:03:59,462
and then all of a sudden
1512
01:03:59,462 --> 01:04:01,264
\h\h\h\hthe introduction
of this new Nitro Girl.
1513
01:04:01,264 --> 01:04:05,000
\h\h\h\h\h- Tampa Bay
girl herself, Whisper.
1514
01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:09,627
And she’s out there
with this chair,
1515
01:04:09,627 --> 01:04:14,462
just doing this dance,
\hand it’s captivating.
1516
01:04:14,462 --> 01:04:18,660
And she’s absolutely the most
beautiful thing I’ve ever seen.
1517
01:04:18,660 --> 01:04:20,726
[soft music]
1518
01:04:20,726 --> 01:04:22,264
- We were at a rehearsal
1519
01:04:22,264 --> 01:04:23,495
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hand one
of the Nitro Girls, Spice,
1520
01:04:23,495 --> 01:04:26,264
had mentioned to me that
a man named Shawn Michaels,
1521
01:04:26,264 --> 01:04:28,396
a former wrestler,
\hwanted to meet me
1522
01:04:28,396 --> 01:04:31,132
and that was the first time
I’d ever heard of him.
1523
01:04:31,132 --> 01:04:31,660
I called her up.
1524
01:04:31,660 --> 01:04:33,528
\h\h\h\h\h\hWe probably
talked for three hours
1525
01:04:33,528 --> 01:04:35,396
on the phone each night
\h\h\h\hfor two weeks.
1526
01:04:35,396 --> 01:04:37,363
- Two weeks of talking
\h\h\h\h\hand emailing,
1527
01:04:37,363 --> 01:04:41,462
\h\h\h\hand then I flew out
to San Antonio to see him,
1528
01:04:41,462 --> 01:04:43,627
\h\h\h\hand we dated
for about two weeks.
1529
01:04:43,627 --> 01:04:45,462
After that he told me
\h\h\h\h\hhe loved me,
1530
01:04:45,462 --> 01:04:46,528
and I told him I loved him.
1531
01:04:46,528 --> 01:04:48,396
Two weeks after that,
we got married.
1532
01:04:48,396 --> 01:04:52,396
- It was the Graceland
Wedding Chapel, yeah. Yeah.
1533
01:04:52,396 --> 01:04:54,660
\h\h\h\h\h\hYou know,
an Elvis impersonator
1534
01:04:54,660 --> 01:04:56,132
walking down the aisle.
1535
01:04:56,132 --> 01:04:57,759
[humming]
1536
01:04:57,759 --> 01:04:58,660
It was fantastic.
1537
01:04:58,660 --> 01:05:02,495
It was just the greatest--
the greatest thing ever.
1538
01:05:02,495 --> 01:05:07,495
\h\h\h\hThere was one evening
where my pills have kicked in,
1539
01:05:07,495 --> 01:05:10,264
and I’m out of it.
1540
01:05:10,264 --> 01:05:12,132
- Shawn was in
\htremendous pain.
1541
01:05:12,132 --> 01:05:14,528
When he would take
the muscle relaxers,
1542
01:05:14,528 --> 01:05:19,264
he would usually pass
out over his food.
1543
01:05:19,264 --> 01:05:21,759
The very first time
that Shawn ever did that
1544
01:05:21,759 --> 01:05:23,132
was when we were
first married,
1545
01:05:23,132 --> 01:05:25,000
so it was a bit of a shock
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hto me.
1546
01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:26,132
So I got him in the shower,
1547
01:05:26,132 --> 01:05:27,726
’cause he had spilled food
all over his chest,
1548
01:05:27,726 --> 01:05:33,132
and I would say it probably
happened a couple times a week.
1549
01:05:33,132 --> 01:05:35,495
- The worst time, again,
1550
01:05:35,495 --> 01:05:38,396
was when she was
eight months pregnant
1551
01:05:38,396 --> 01:05:39,759
and she’s doing
everything she can,
1552
01:05:39,759 --> 01:05:41,759
at eight months pregnant
\h\h\h\h\hwith her belly,
1553
01:05:41,759 --> 01:05:44,660
trying to hold me up.
1554
01:05:44,660 --> 01:05:45,660
- I took pity on him,
1555
01:05:45,660 --> 01:05:48,231
and I just prayed for him,
\h\h\h\his all I could do.
1556
01:05:48,231 --> 01:05:50,000
But it didn’t make me think,
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hyou know,
1557
01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:51,495
"What in the world
have I gotten into?"
1558
01:05:51,495 --> 01:05:54,396
If I was fearful, I was fearful
\h\h\h\h\hfor our unborn child.
1559
01:05:54,396 --> 01:05:59,099
And I hoped that it would end
whenever the baby was born,
1560
01:05:59,099 --> 01:06:00,594
and it didn’t.
1561
01:06:00,594 --> 01:06:06,132
- Here in Cleveland,
\hOhio, we will make history.
1562
01:06:06,132 --> 01:06:08,330
- I don’t remember
\hwhy Shawn was there.
1563
01:06:08,330 --> 01:06:11,396
He must have been some doing
something in the show.
1564
01:06:11,396 --> 01:06:17,132
We all go, me, Taker,
Rock, Vince is in the ring.
1565
01:06:17,132 --> 01:06:18,462
"Now I own WCW."
1566
01:06:18,462 --> 01:06:23,132
Shawn is messed up, pilled up.
1567
01:06:23,132 --> 01:06:26,264
\h\h\h\h\hSo this is
a celebratory moment.
1568
01:06:26,264 --> 01:06:30,528
He’s belligerent, loud,
falling down, staggering,
1569
01:06:30,528 --> 01:06:37,099
Vince calls him in, tells him,
\h"Go home, I’m done with you."
1570
01:06:37,099 --> 01:06:39,132
Shawn goes ballistic.
1571
01:06:39,132 --> 01:06:43,099
Walks by me in the hallway,
\h\h\h\h\h\hjust goes off.
1572
01:06:43,099 --> 01:06:45,495
- You know, I went
1573
01:06:45,495 --> 01:06:49,000
\hand browbeat Hunter
unfairly, obviously.
1574
01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:50,759
- And I just went off back,
1575
01:06:50,759 --> 01:06:54,759
\h\h\h\hyou know, in his face,
screaming match back and forth,
1576
01:06:54,759 --> 01:06:56,000
and he storms out.
1577
01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:57,264
- Now that’s another one
that makes me cry.
1578
01:06:57,264 --> 01:06:59,627
I went and said some
mean stuff to him
1579
01:06:59,627 --> 01:07:01,396
and walked out.
1580
01:07:01,396 --> 01:07:05,099
And, you know,
1581
01:07:05,099 --> 01:07:08,000
that sucks as well.
1582
01:07:08,396 --> 01:07:13,396
- And I don’t talk to him
\h\h\h\hfor a long time.
1583
01:07:13,396 --> 01:07:16,396
- We didn’t speak,
I don’t know,
1584
01:07:16,396 --> 01:07:19,528
I mean I would think at least
\h\h\h\h\ha year, two years.
1585
01:07:19,528 --> 01:07:23,528
It was, what do they call it,
\h\h\h\h\h\hthe rock bottom.
1586
01:07:23,528 --> 01:07:27,363
[dramatic music]
1587
01:07:27,660 --> 01:07:30,759
[indistinct chatter]
1588
01:07:30,759 --> 01:07:33,396
- Our son was at the age
\h\h\h\h\hto where he was,
1589
01:07:33,396 --> 01:07:36,396
you know, walking around,
more aware of things,
1590
01:07:36,396 --> 01:07:37,528
and it was the night
1591
01:07:37,528 --> 01:07:40,000
when Shawn had fallen asleep
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hon the couch--
1592
01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:40,660
a drug-induced sleep--
1593
01:07:40,660 --> 01:07:42,726
\h\h\h\hwith our son
climbing all over him
1594
01:07:42,726 --> 01:07:44,363
and saying, "Daddy’s asleep."
1595
01:07:44,363 --> 01:07:46,132
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- To me,
the biggest thing again
1596
01:07:46,132 --> 01:07:48,759
was Cameron saying,
"Daddy’s tired."
1597
01:07:48,759 --> 01:07:50,660
And it sort of dawning on me
1598
01:07:50,660 --> 01:07:54,000
that he was now being able
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hto recognize
1599
01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:57,264
clearly my state of mind.
1600
01:07:57,264 --> 01:07:59,759
I went into the bathroom
and closed the door.
1601
01:07:59,759 --> 01:08:02,264
Looking at yourself
in the mirror
1602
01:08:02,264 --> 01:08:03,528
and, you know,
1603
01:08:03,528 --> 01:08:06,462
I sat there and cried
like a baby and wept,
1604
01:08:06,462 --> 01:08:09,528
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hyou know,
realizing that you are failing,
1605
01:08:09,528 --> 01:08:12,198
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hyou know,
a two-year-old little boy.
1606
01:08:12,198 --> 01:08:13,660
And all of those things
1607
01:08:13,660 --> 01:08:17,132
sort of came crashing down
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hthat night,
1608
01:08:17,132 --> 01:08:20,660
and I just--it’s the first
\h\h\h\h\htime I ever feel
1609
01:08:20,660 --> 01:08:23,000
like such a frickin’ failure.
1610
01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:24,528
And I think that that was
the last straw for him,
1611
01:08:24,528 --> 01:08:27,099
and when he woke up
the next morning,
1612
01:08:27,099 --> 01:08:30,495
\h\h\h\hhe told me he was never
taking pills or drinking again,
1613
01:08:30,495 --> 01:08:32,396
and from that point,
\h\h\h\h\hhe didn’t.
1614
01:08:32,396 --> 01:08:34,594
It was an instantaneous
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hletting go
1615
01:08:34,594 --> 01:08:36,000
of the drugs and alcohol.
1616
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:37,528
- I just called him
\hup out of the clear blue,
1617
01:08:37,528 --> 01:08:41,132
I just asked him when the last
\h\h\h\htime he talked to Paul,
1618
01:08:41,132 --> 01:08:46,099
and, um, he just avoided
\h\h\h\h\hthat situation.
1619
01:08:46,099 --> 01:08:51,462
I just said, "Man, you’re wrong,
you got to call him."
1620
01:08:51,462 --> 01:08:53,000
I called Hunter
and let him know,
1621
01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:57,231
\hyou know, how sorry I was
and how out of line I was.
1622
01:08:57,231 --> 01:08:59,495
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hAnd I said,
"I hope you can forgive me."
1623
01:08:59,495 --> 01:09:01,528
I needed that from Hunter.
1624
01:09:01,528 --> 01:09:04,000
For me, it was easy,
like, I didn’t--
1625
01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:06,660
\h\h\h\h\h\h\has long as it
wasn’t drugs talking to me.
1626
01:09:06,660 --> 01:09:08,528
- It’s good to see you.
1627
01:09:08,528 --> 01:09:09,528
[patting]
1628
01:09:09,528 --> 01:09:10,264
- Group hug.
1629
01:09:10,264 --> 01:09:12,660
- Of course,
\hI do regret the pain
1630
01:09:12,660 --> 01:09:14,495
that it caused people
\h\h\h\h\hin my life,
1631
01:09:14,495 --> 01:09:17,396
but there is a part of that
\h\h\h\hthat I don’t think
1632
01:09:17,396 --> 01:09:22,099
that Michael Shawn Hickenbottom
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hcan get
1633
01:09:22,099 --> 01:09:23,660
to where he got creatively
1634
01:09:23,660 --> 01:09:29,264
without a little bit of that
reckless, risky mindset.
1635
01:09:29,264 --> 01:09:33,264
\h\h\h\hI wouldn’t have
had the guts to do it.
1636
01:09:33,264 --> 01:09:35,495
\h\h\h\h\h\h- It was our
first Christmas together,
1637
01:09:35,495 --> 01:09:38,264
and I gave Shawn a Bible
and some other books,
1638
01:09:38,264 --> 01:09:39,528
and he began reading them.
1639
01:09:39,528 --> 01:09:43,363
- I had never had anything
\h\h\h\h\hthat I could grasp
1640
01:09:43,363 --> 01:09:45,396
\h\h\h\h\h\hthat was bigger
than the wrestling business.
1641
01:09:45,396 --> 01:09:50,495
That’s just not enough to base,
I don’t know, a life on.
1642
01:09:50,495 --> 01:09:53,396
- I worked at Cornerstone
\hChurch in San Antonio, Texas.
1643
01:09:53,396 --> 01:09:56,396
\h\h\h\h\h\hAll of a sudden
I heard a deep voice said,
1644
01:09:56,396 --> 01:09:59,132
"I want to come
to a Bible study."
1645
01:09:59,132 --> 01:10:01,264
And then I got up from my desk
1646
01:10:01,264 --> 01:10:03,264
and stuck my head out the door,
1647
01:10:03,264 --> 01:10:05,132
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hand I said,
"Well, you can come to mine."
1648
01:10:05,132 --> 01:10:07,396
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hWhen he left,
everybody came out and said,
1649
01:10:07,396 --> 01:10:08,594
"Do you know who that was?"
1650
01:10:08,594 --> 01:10:10,726
I said, "No, I don’t know
who that was, who was it?"
1651
01:10:10,726 --> 01:10:12,099
And they said,
"Shawn Michaels,"
1652
01:10:12,099 --> 01:10:15,000
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hand I said,
"Well, who’s Shawn Michaels?"
1653
01:10:16,495 --> 01:10:18,132
He said, "Well, first, Keith,
1654
01:10:18,132 --> 01:10:20,660
I want you to pray
for my back."
1655
01:10:20,660 --> 01:10:22,660
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hHe says,
"I’ve been out of wrestling
1656
01:10:22,660 --> 01:10:23,594
and I want to go back."
1657
01:10:23,594 --> 01:10:25,528
\h\h\h\h\hI said, "Well,
there’s a simple prayer
1658
01:10:25,528 --> 01:10:27,000
that we can pray together."
1659
01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:29,396
And while he was saying
\h\h\h\h\h\hthat prayer,
1660
01:10:29,396 --> 01:10:32,759
\htears just come
out of his eyes.
1661
01:10:32,759 --> 01:10:34,396
- I got nobody
\hto blame but me,
1662
01:10:34,396 --> 01:10:37,726
and I don’t have anything
in common with the other dude,
1663
01:10:37,726 --> 01:10:39,528
and I don’t know
how I got that way.
1664
01:10:39,528 --> 01:10:43,000
It wasn’t from family.
It wasn’t from upbringing.
1665
01:10:43,000 --> 01:10:44,330
- He was so desperate
1666
01:10:44,330 --> 01:10:49,132
to get back in that close
relationship with Rebecca
1667
01:10:49,132 --> 01:10:50,363
and his son.
1668
01:10:50,363 --> 01:10:52,132
- I was now a dad,
\hI was a husband,
1669
01:10:52,132 --> 01:10:57,759
and I was really devoted
and thrilled about that.
1670
01:10:57,759 --> 01:10:58,528
- You’re like a child,
1671
01:10:58,528 --> 01:11:02,396
\h\h\h\hyou just want to tell
everybody, "I’ve been saved."
1672
01:11:08,528 --> 01:11:10,264
\h- Once Shawn got
his life together
1673
01:11:10,264 --> 01:11:12,528
and found Christ,
it was night and day.
1674
01:11:12,528 --> 01:11:14,099
When he looks back
at his life,
1675
01:11:14,099 --> 01:11:16,396
that’s the biggest thing
\h\h\h\hthat he ever did.
1676
01:11:16,396 --> 01:11:18,264
\h\h\h\h\h\h- You were
dealing with the grownup
1677
01:11:18,264 --> 01:11:19,264
when Shawn came back,
1678
01:11:19,264 --> 01:11:22,000
someone who was there
to do business.
1679
01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:25,660
Shawn was a lot calmer
and much easier to deal with.
1680
01:11:25,660 --> 01:11:27,132
- Shawn Michaels of old
1681
01:11:27,132 --> 01:11:29,363
is very different from Shawn
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hHickenbottom,
1682
01:11:29,363 --> 01:11:30,264
the man I married.
1683
01:11:30,264 --> 01:11:32,528
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hThe sexy boy
and all that kinda stuff,
1684
01:11:32,528 --> 01:11:33,462
and his cocky attitude
1685
01:11:33,462 --> 01:11:35,396
and the cocky little smile
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hthat he does.
1686
01:11:35,396 --> 01:11:39,594
\h\h\h\h\hThat’s so far
from who he really is.
1687
01:11:39,594 --> 01:11:41,066
- I remember
\hsomebody asking me,
1688
01:11:41,066 --> 01:11:45,264
they said, you know, "Hey,
I heard Shawn found religion."
1689
01:11:45,264 --> 01:11:46,132
Yeah. They laughed,
1690
01:11:46,132 --> 01:11:51,495
and I said, "I don’t anybody
that died OD’ing on religion."
1691
01:11:51,495 --> 01:11:53,000
- He had called Triple H.
1692
01:11:53,000 --> 01:11:56,264
He thanked Hunter
for the time on the road
1693
01:11:56,264 --> 01:11:59,066
because before his marriage
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hto me,
1694
01:11:59,066 --> 01:12:02,594
the one who took
care of him was Hunter.
1695
01:12:02,594 --> 01:12:05,000
That night, after Shawn
had gone to bed,
1696
01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:09,330
\hhe woke up in the morning and
the pain was gone in his back.
1697
01:12:09,330 --> 01:12:10,594
It was definitely a miracle.
1698
01:12:10,594 --> 01:12:14,000
So, he was physically ready
to go back in the ring,
1699
01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:18,363
and I knew that the Lord
\hwould take care of him.
1700
01:12:18,363 --> 01:12:20,264
- We were kind of
\hhaving conversations
1701
01:12:20,264 --> 01:12:22,132
at the time, and then he said,
1702
01:12:22,132 --> 01:12:23,396
"I want my son to see me
do this one time,"
1703
01:12:23,396 --> 01:12:25,132
he said, "But I don’t know
\h\h\h\h\hthat I can do it,
1704
01:12:25,132 --> 01:12:27,264
I don’t know physically
if I can or not,"
1705
01:12:27,264 --> 01:12:28,528
and he said, "If I’m going to,
1706
01:12:28,528 --> 01:12:31,528
I only trust one person,
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hthat’s you.
1707
01:12:31,528 --> 01:12:35,198
If you consider it,
I would love to do it.
1708
01:12:35,198 --> 01:12:38,396
What do you think?"
1709
01:12:38,396 --> 01:12:42,198
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Moments away
from the non-sanctioned fight
1710
01:12:42,198 --> 01:12:46,198
\hbetween two men who were,
at one time, best friends,
1711
01:12:46,198 --> 01:12:47,759
Shawn Michaels and Triple H.
1712
01:12:47,759 --> 01:12:54,000
Shawn Michaels last wrestled
\h\h\h\h\h\h1,609 days ago,
1713
01:12:54,000 --> 01:12:56,396
if you can believe that.
1714
01:12:56,396 --> 01:12:57,396
- His whole family was there.
1715
01:12:57,396 --> 01:13:00,363
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hYou know,
they were all scared to death.
1716
01:13:00,363 --> 01:13:02,495
Got in the ring,
did a couple of things.
1717
01:13:02,495 --> 01:13:03,495
[bell rings]
1718
01:13:03,495 --> 01:13:07,132
\h\h\h\h\hNever missed a beat,
not a moment, not an anything.
1719
01:13:07,132 --> 01:13:09,132
- I was on my chair
like a redneck,
1720
01:13:09,132 --> 01:13:11,000
just screaming
and yelling for him.
1721
01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:12,264
Of course, I cried at the end.
1722
01:13:12,264 --> 01:13:13,396
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Like,
how is this possible,
1723
01:13:13,396 --> 01:13:18,495
that he is this good still,
\h\h\h\hafter all that time
1724
01:13:18,495 --> 01:13:23,000
and injury and everything else?
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hUnbelievable.
1725
01:13:23,000 --> 01:13:27,198
- It was just as easy
\has the day is long,
1726
01:13:27,198 --> 01:13:28,528
it was poetic,
it was phenomenal,
1727
01:13:28,528 --> 01:13:32,264
it was everything that is right
and good about the world
1728
01:13:32,264 --> 01:13:35,462
in this line of work, and,
you know, my family there,
1729
01:13:35,462 --> 01:13:37,264
\h\h\h\h\hout there
with my best friend.
1730
01:13:37,264 --> 01:13:44,495
- The Heartbreak Kid,
\hShawn Michaels!
1731
01:13:44,495 --> 01:13:45,759
- After the Summerslam,
1732
01:13:45,759 --> 01:13:48,363
that’s when there was
a sense of peace and joy
1733
01:13:48,363 --> 01:13:50,627
in the midst of doing
your job and your family,
1734
01:13:50,627 --> 01:13:55,528
combining these two worlds
that I’ve never had together,
1735
01:13:55,528 --> 01:13:57,330
and I’m not even
the same person.
1736
01:13:57,330 --> 01:14:00,660
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hAnd now,
and it all feels so right.
1737
01:14:00,660 --> 01:14:01,759
That’s as good as it gets,
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hyou know,
1738
01:14:01,759 --> 01:14:04,594
it’s heaven on Earth here
\h\h\h\h\h\hin this room.
1739
01:14:04,594 --> 01:14:07,528
- Shawn Michaels
changed completely
1740
01:14:07,528 --> 01:14:08,627
as a human being.
1741
01:14:08,627 --> 01:14:10,231
And somehow, as a character,
1742
01:14:10,231 --> 01:14:15,627
\h\h\h\h\hhe managed to keep a lot
of the aura that he always had.
1743
01:14:15,627 --> 01:14:21,231
I could argue that Shawn was
at his best after he came back.
1744
01:14:21,231 --> 01:14:24,396
[cheers and applause]
1745
01:14:24,396 --> 01:14:26,066
- To me,
1746
01:14:26,066 --> 01:14:31,000
the greatest in-ring performer
1747
01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:33,363
of all time.
1748
01:14:34,264 --> 01:14:36,132
[soft music]
1749
01:14:36,132 --> 01:14:37,726
- It gets more difficult
1750
01:14:37,726 --> 01:14:40,132
to find a new mountain,
a new challenge.
1751
01:14:40,132 --> 01:14:43,264
Sometimes that mountain
or that new challenge
1752
01:14:43,264 --> 01:14:44,000
just isn’t there.
1753
01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:45,363
And so later on in my career,
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hI learned that
1754
01:14:45,363 --> 01:14:48,396
when I disconnect from it,
something will usually happen,
1755
01:14:48,396 --> 01:14:50,363
and, you know,
the one with Flair
1756
01:14:50,363 --> 01:14:53,462
is the one I honestly
always speak of.
1757
01:14:53,462 --> 01:14:55,759
Remember the story
of Old Yeller?
1758
01:14:55,759 --> 01:14:59,132
The Showstopper’s gonna
take you, Old Yeller,
1759
01:14:59,132 --> 01:15:04,462
\h\h\h\h\h\hbehind the woodshed
and put you out of your misery.
1760
01:15:04,462 --> 01:15:08,528
I lost myself in that drama.
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h[laughs]
1761
01:15:08,528 --> 01:15:10,198
I get a call from my buddy,
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hKenny,
1762
01:15:10,198 --> 01:15:11,627
\h\h\h\h\hwho’s now been
made aware of the match.
1763
01:15:11,627 --> 01:15:13,528
It’s like, oh my goodness,
he said, "Can you believe it?"
1764
01:15:13,528 --> 01:15:17,495
- It was overwhelming to think
\hthat the guy that we idolized
1765
01:15:17,495 --> 01:15:21,495
that we would watch a little TV
box in San Antonio, Texas,
1766
01:15:21,495 --> 01:15:24,363
somehow their lives were going
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hto interconnect.
1767
01:15:24,363 --> 01:15:27,363
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hRic was his guy.
He absolutely loved Ric Flair.
1768
01:15:27,363 --> 01:15:31,363
- Kenny took me back
\h\h\h\hto that time.
1769
01:15:33,495 --> 01:15:37,528
- This was why I went
from New York to Orlando,
1770
01:15:37,528 --> 01:15:40,594
was to see this moment.
1771
01:15:40,594 --> 01:15:41,528
[bell rings]
1772
01:15:41,528 --> 01:15:42,660
- Now in this match,
1773
01:15:42,660 --> 01:15:47,660
should Ric Flair lose,
he must retire.
1774
01:15:47,660 --> 01:15:48,660
- I remember feeling
1775
01:15:48,660 --> 01:15:51,330
like the way Ric Flair
started this match,
1776
01:15:51,330 --> 01:15:54,396
that he had a chance.
1777
01:15:54,396 --> 01:15:56,264
[grunts]
1778
01:15:56,264 --> 01:15:59,000
- There’s no other way
to put it--he carried me.
1779
01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:03,066
\h\h\h\h\hHe gave everything
that anybody could ever give
1780
01:16:03,066 --> 01:16:04,264
to a match that night.
1781
01:16:04,264 --> 01:16:07,594
- Oh, wait a minute,
\hwait a minute, look out.
1782
01:16:07,594 --> 01:16:10,132
Good grief!
1783
01:16:10,132 --> 01:16:12,066
Oh, not again!
1784
01:16:12,066 --> 01:16:13,000
- It becomes clear
1785
01:16:13,000 --> 01:16:16,066
\h\h\h\h\hthat Ric Flair
just doesn’t have enough.
1786
01:16:16,066 --> 01:16:19,330
I love this part, I could
tear up talking about it.
1787
01:16:19,330 --> 01:16:22,495
Flair, like an old dog,
\h\h\h\hstill fighting,
1788
01:16:22,495 --> 01:16:24,066
he thinks he still has it.
1789
01:16:24,066 --> 01:16:28,330
And that’s when Shawn sort
of has to have that moment
1790
01:16:28,330 --> 01:16:31,099
\h\h\h\h\hwhere he says,
"I’m sorry, I love you."
1791
01:16:31,099 --> 01:16:33,000
- Flair wants to fight.
1792
01:16:33,000 --> 01:16:34,495
- And just turns
\hthe lights out.
1793
01:16:34,495 --> 01:16:40,759
It was as beautiful and perfect
an ending to a wrestling match
1794
01:16:40,759 --> 01:16:42,396
as you will ever have.
1795
01:16:42,396 --> 01:16:45,132
- He knew I didn’t
want to go,
1796
01:16:45,132 --> 01:16:47,627
\hand he said,
"I love you."
1797
01:16:47,627 --> 01:16:49,132
It’s a great moment
in wrestling.
1798
01:16:49,132 --> 01:16:50,627
I don’t care what anyone says,
1799
01:16:50,627 --> 01:16:54,330
you can’t replace something
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hlike that.
1800
01:16:54,330 --> 01:16:55,132
- Unashamed
1801
01:16:55,132 --> 01:16:57,495
that it was my love letter to,
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hyou know,
1802
01:16:57,495 --> 01:17:02,396
the wrestling business
and to Ric Flair.
1803
01:17:06,264 --> 01:17:10,231
\h\h\h\h\h\h- It is show day,
and we’re off to the shi-zow.
1804
01:17:10,231 --> 01:17:14,198
I’ve been doing this
for 35 years,
1805
01:17:14,198 --> 01:17:14,660
and days like today,
1806
01:17:14,660 --> 01:17:17,066
it’s a different kind
of anxiety that I have now.
1807
01:17:17,066 --> 01:17:19,000
I have anxiety
for the performers
1808
01:17:19,000 --> 01:17:21,198
for the entire show as a whole.
1809
01:17:21,198 --> 01:17:23,330
For me it’s just
all fantastic,
1810
01:17:23,330 --> 01:17:25,396
especially when it goes well
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hfor them,
1811
01:17:25,396 --> 01:17:27,330
and they come back
and they’re jacked.
1812
01:17:27,330 --> 01:17:29,099
It’s ten times better than--
1813
01:17:29,099 --> 01:17:30,594
than when I had
that opportunity.
1814
01:17:30,594 --> 01:17:33,099
This is where
I’m supposed to be.
1815
01:17:33,099 --> 01:17:36,396
I absolutely love it.
1816
01:17:37,627 --> 01:17:39,594
[soft music]
1817
01:17:39,594 --> 01:17:40,528
- What moment would you say
1818
01:17:40,528 --> 01:17:42,759
you’re most proud of,
and then by the same token,
1819
01:17:42,759 --> 01:17:45,264
what moment would you say
you are least proud of?
1820
01:17:45,264 --> 01:17:46,759
- Most proud I guess would be
1821
01:17:46,759 --> 01:17:47,660
winning the world title.
1822
01:17:47,660 --> 01:17:51,528
And least proud would probably
be the Montreal incident.
1823
01:17:51,528 --> 01:17:54,528
One is everything
you aspire to do,
1824
01:17:54,528 --> 01:17:56,132
\h\h\h\h\h\hand the other
is the complete opposite.
1825
01:17:56,132 --> 01:17:59,099
Something you really
don’t want to be a part of.
1826
01:17:59,099 --> 01:18:02,396
It’s the long-term guilt,
\h\h\h\h\hit’s the shame,
1827
01:18:02,396 --> 01:18:05,396
it’s the loathing that you know
this person has for you.
1828
01:18:05,396 --> 01:18:07,363
- There was so much
\hbad blood between us,
1829
01:18:07,363 --> 01:18:11,759
and I was always like,
if I see him, I’ll kill him.
1830
01:18:11,759 --> 01:18:14,594
I’ve always believed
that I had so much anger,
1831
01:18:14,594 --> 01:18:16,231
that I think it
led to my stroke
1832
01:18:16,231 --> 01:18:18,000
and lot of things
that I went through.
1833
01:18:18,000 --> 01:18:19,264
And I remember
thinking about Shawn
1834
01:18:19,264 --> 01:18:21,396
and how we were good friends
\h\h\h\h\honce upon a time,
1835
01:18:21,396 --> 01:18:24,363
\h\h\h\h\h\hand, you know,
that it wasn’t just Shawn.
1836
01:18:24,363 --> 01:18:25,099
I was guilty too.
1837
01:18:25,099 --> 01:18:27,660
\h\h\h\hAnd I remember thinking
it’d be good to put it to bed.
1838
01:18:27,660 --> 01:18:30,396
- And I’ve certainly
\htalked about my regret
1839
01:18:30,396 --> 01:18:33,264
\h\h\h\hand the hope
for reconciliation.
1840
01:18:33,264 --> 01:18:35,132
It took him some time
\h\h\h\hto get there.
1841
01:18:35,132 --> 01:18:36,660
Vince had suggested
there’s gotta be a way
1842
01:18:36,660 --> 01:18:40,396
we can do this live,
in front of the world.
1843
01:18:40,396 --> 01:18:42,132
- I’ve got 12 years
\h\h\h\h\hof things
1844
01:18:42,132 --> 01:18:43,495
that I’ve wanted
to get off my chest.
1845
01:18:43,495 --> 01:18:44,528
I want to call back there
1846
01:18:44,528 --> 01:18:47,627
and ask Shawn Michaels
to come out here.
1847
01:18:47,627 --> 01:18:49,198
I call for a truce,
1848
01:18:49,198 --> 01:18:51,132
and I call for you
\hto shake my hand.
1849
01:18:51,132 --> 01:18:53,231
The fact that we did that
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hin the ring
1850
01:18:53,231 --> 01:18:56,132
\h\h\h\h\hand we shook hands
and all that was very honest
1851
01:18:56,132 --> 01:18:57,396
and very sincere.
1852
01:18:57,396 --> 01:18:59,099
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- You know
that everybody’s watching
1853
01:18:59,099 --> 01:19:01,099
when you are trying to have
this very real moment
1854
01:19:01,099 --> 01:19:02,264
with one another.
1855
01:19:02,264 --> 01:19:03,462
Art does imitate life.
1856
01:19:03,462 --> 01:19:06,363
\h\h\h\h\h- He’s matured,
and he’s a different guy,
1857
01:19:06,363 --> 01:19:07,627
[cheers and applause]
1858
01:19:07,627 --> 01:19:09,132
and I thought he finally,
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hyou know,
1859
01:19:09,132 --> 01:19:11,198
he’s got his priorities
\h\h\h\h\hall in order.
1860
01:19:11,198 --> 01:19:13,495
[cheers and applause]
1861
01:19:13,495 --> 01:19:14,660
- Welcome
1862
01:19:14,660 --> 01:19:17,660
to the 25th anniversary
1863
01:19:17,660 --> 01:19:22,198
of WrestleMania!
1864
01:19:22,198 --> 01:19:25,132
70,000 WWE fans.
1865
01:19:25,132 --> 01:19:28,264
- By the time Shawn
\hMichaels and Undertaker
1866
01:19:28,264 --> 01:19:30,759
meet at WrestleMania 25,
\h\h\h\hthey’re veterans,
1867
01:19:30,759 --> 01:19:32,528
they’ve been around forever.
1868
01:19:32,528 --> 01:19:33,231
And somehow,
1869
01:19:33,231 --> 01:19:37,759
\h\h\h\h\h\hthey’re actually
both in their absolute prime.
1870
01:19:37,759 --> 01:19:42,396
[ethereal music playing]
1871
01:19:42,396 --> 01:19:44,396
\h\h\h\h- One of my
favorite entrances,
1872
01:19:44,396 --> 01:19:45,528
Shawn as The Undertaker,
1873
01:19:45,528 --> 01:19:49,660
\h\h\h\h\hbut in all white,
ascending from the clouds.
1874
01:19:49,660 --> 01:19:55,528
Such a stark contrast
to what I’m about to do.
1875
01:19:55,528 --> 01:19:59,528
It was the battle between
\h\h\h\h\hheaven and hell.
1876
01:19:59,528 --> 01:20:00,462
- Prior to 2002,
1877
01:20:00,462 --> 01:20:02,660
we did not have a great
\h\h\h\h\hrelationship.
1878
01:20:02,660 --> 01:20:05,132
We did not like each other
\h\h\h\h\houtside the ring.
1879
01:20:05,132 --> 01:20:07,660
\h\h\h\h\h- This guy,
I genuinely liked now.
1880
01:20:07,660 --> 01:20:10,594
And it had been years
and years and years
1881
01:20:10,594 --> 01:20:13,099
since we had worked together,
1882
01:20:13,099 --> 01:20:15,396
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hsince the time
that he had injured himself
1883
01:20:15,396 --> 01:20:17,000
in the casket match.
1884
01:20:17,000 --> 01:20:17,759
- Unknown to us
\hat the time,
1885
01:20:17,759 --> 01:20:21,627
we’re about to create one of
the most epic things ever done
1886
01:20:21,627 --> 01:20:23,363
in the wrestling business.
1887
01:20:23,363 --> 01:20:25,000
- There’s that
\hbrash arrogance.
1888
01:20:25,000 --> 01:20:30,594
\h\h\h\h70,000 chanting HBK
the other half, Undertaker.
1889
01:20:30,594 --> 01:20:32,363
[audience screaming]
1890
01:20:32,363 --> 01:20:34,627
- Ooh!
- Whoa!
1891
01:20:34,627 --> 01:20:37,726
[cheers and applause]
1892
01:20:37,726 --> 01:20:40,462
[triumphant music]
1893
01:20:40,462 --> 01:20:42,231
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- You know
when you’re in the middle
1894
01:20:42,231 --> 01:20:45,099
of something really special,
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hand we did.
1895
01:20:45,099 --> 01:20:47,132
- Incoming!
1896
01:20:47,132 --> 01:20:51,330
Tombstone piledriver.
1897
01:20:51,330 --> 01:20:54,660
♪
1898
01:20:54,660 --> 01:20:58,330
[bell rings]
1899
01:20:58,330 --> 01:21:00,528
- I just remember
getting to Shawn,
1900
01:21:00,528 --> 01:21:03,264
and we just embraced,
\h\h\h\h\hand hugged,
1901
01:21:03,264 --> 01:21:04,660
and thanked each other.
1902
01:21:04,660 --> 01:21:06,264
It was an awesome moment.
1903
01:21:06,264 --> 01:21:08,066
- It was on the ride home
\h\h\h\h\h\hthe next day,
1904
01:21:08,066 --> 01:21:10,396
just settling into me
that I just don’t know
1905
01:21:10,396 --> 01:21:13,726
that I’m ever going
to encounter,
1906
01:21:13,726 --> 01:21:15,759
from a performance standpoint,
1907
01:21:15,759 --> 01:21:18,198
anything greater
\hthan that thing
1908
01:21:18,198 --> 01:21:20,726
that I experienced last night.
1909
01:21:20,726 --> 01:21:22,330
- There’s only one match
1910
01:21:22,330 --> 01:21:25,132
that can be considered
Match of the Year,
1911
01:21:25,132 --> 01:21:28,066
Shawn Michaels
and the Undertaker.
1912
01:21:28,066 --> 01:21:31,726
[rock music playing]
1913
01:21:31,726 --> 01:21:36,099
- Undertaker, I can beat you.
1914
01:21:36,099 --> 01:21:43,198
You and me, WrestleMania,
\h\h\h\h\hone more time.
1915
01:21:43,198 --> 01:21:46,099
[cheers and applause]
1916
01:21:46,099 --> 01:21:49,726
\h\h\h\h\h- So, I remember
tuning into WrestleMania 26.
1917
01:21:49,726 --> 01:21:51,231
I had a knot in my stomach
1918
01:21:51,231 --> 01:21:55,528
knowing that if Shawn Michaels
wasn’t able to win this one
1919
01:21:55,528 --> 01:21:56,660
that he would retire.
1920
01:21:56,660 --> 01:21:58,594
But it was a beautiful,
\h\h\h\h\h\hartistic way
1921
01:21:58,594 --> 01:22:01,495
to end the career
of Shawn Michaels.
1922
01:22:01,495 --> 01:22:07,132
[cheers and applause]
1923
01:22:07,132 --> 01:22:11,528
- One, two, three!
[bell dings]
1924
01:22:11,528 --> 01:22:16,495
- Shawn Michaels’
\hcareer is over.
1925
01:22:16,495 --> 01:22:18,099
- My heart was broken.
My heart was broken.
1926
01:22:18,099 --> 01:22:21,099
but I’m glad also that he got
to leave on his own terms.
1927
01:22:21,099 --> 01:22:23,528
- It was important
that I get out of there
1928
01:22:23,528 --> 01:22:27,462
to let the fans show him
the appreciation he deserved.
1929
01:22:27,462 --> 01:22:31,627
[cheers and applause]
1930
01:22:31,627 --> 01:22:33,396
- I have to imagine
\hthat Tom Brady
1931
01:22:33,396 --> 01:22:37,066
and Michael Jordan, as much
as they appreciate the fans,
1932
01:22:37,066 --> 01:22:39,594
I think more than anything
it’s about their teammates
1933
01:22:39,594 --> 01:22:44,000
and the people that they played
that means the most to them.
1934
01:22:44,000 --> 01:22:46,528
[clapping]
1935
01:22:46,528 --> 01:22:48,330
[dramatic music]
1936
01:22:48,330 --> 01:22:51,099
\h\h\h\h\hA lot of time,
there’s still a chasing
1937
01:22:51,099 --> 01:22:52,264
of that last perfect one,
1938
01:22:52,264 --> 01:22:54,594
and that’s why
I’m so appreciative
1939
01:22:54,594 --> 01:22:57,660
\h\h\h\hthat I can define
some form of finish line.
1940
01:22:58,231 --> 01:23:00,264
There’s two things
that I thrive on,
1941
01:23:00,264 --> 01:23:01,396
it’s two things
that I’m in love with,
1942
01:23:01,396 --> 01:23:04,066
which is, you know,
Rebecca and the kids,
1943
01:23:04,066 --> 01:23:05,495
and the wrestling business.
1944
01:23:05,495 --> 01:23:07,660
Oh, yeah, my team.
1945
01:23:07,660 --> 01:23:10,264
They’re the two greatest
loves of my life.
1946
01:23:10,264 --> 01:23:12,528
That’s never changed.
1947
01:23:12,528 --> 01:23:15,528
[applause]
1948
01:23:16,330 --> 01:23:17,726
You’ve probably been
to more ladder matches
1949
01:23:17,726 --> 01:23:21,396
\h\h\h\hthan half the people
in the ring, I would imagine.
1950
01:23:21,396 --> 01:23:22,759
[soft music]
1951
01:23:22,759 --> 01:23:25,627
And then stops,
loads up the--
1952
01:23:25,627 --> 01:23:26,495
Whoa, he goes down.
1953
01:23:26,495 --> 01:23:29,528
- It’s awesome for me
\hto have Shawn there.
1954
01:23:29,528 --> 01:23:31,330
I can tell you
what he’s thinking,
1955
01:23:31,330 --> 01:23:33,660
he can tell you
what I’m thinking,
1956
01:23:33,660 --> 01:23:35,099
and there’s a chemistry there.
1957
01:23:35,099 --> 01:23:36,132
We have this uncanny
with each other.
1958
01:23:36,132 --> 01:23:38,198
- There’s just a little
something in there
1959
01:23:38,198 --> 01:23:40,132
to do, just a small little--
1960
01:23:40,132 --> 01:23:41,495
- Shawn’s, you know, a legend
1961
01:23:41,495 --> 01:23:45,759
and for a legend to walk
into an environment
1962
01:23:45,759 --> 01:23:46,594
full of performers.
1963
01:23:46,594 --> 01:23:48,363
- Go get them, boys.
\h\h\h\h\h\h[laughs]
1964
01:23:48,363 --> 01:23:50,594
- They revere him so much.
1965
01:23:50,594 --> 01:23:52,627
- Welcome to NXT Takeover.
1966
01:23:52,627 --> 01:23:56,231
There is the North American
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hChampionship.
1967
01:23:56,231 --> 01:23:58,000
Who will climb the ladder?
1968
01:23:58,000 --> 01:23:59,528
- Shawn has been a role model
1969
01:23:59,528 --> 01:24:01,594
both in and out of the ring.
1970
01:24:01,594 --> 01:24:02,660
- Ding, ding, ding.
1971
01:24:02,660 --> 01:24:04,363
- I have so much
respect for that man,
1972
01:24:04,363 --> 01:24:07,396
for not just what he’s done
for professional wrestling,
1973
01:24:07,396 --> 01:24:09,264
but for the type
of person he is.
1974
01:24:09,264 --> 01:24:09,660
- [laughs]
1975
01:24:09,660 --> 01:24:14,099
- To me and so many others,
\h\h\h\hhe’s the greatest.
1976
01:24:14,099 --> 01:24:15,528
[all exclaiming]
1977
01:24:15,528 --> 01:24:19,495
And it’s insane
how kind, generous,
1978
01:24:19,495 --> 01:24:20,528
and humble the guy is.
1979
01:24:20,528 --> 01:24:21,660
- That is good stuff.
1980
01:24:21,660 --> 01:24:25,000
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Sometimes
I think he doesn’t realize
1981
01:24:25,000 --> 01:24:25,726
that he’s Shawn Michaels.
1982
01:24:25,726 --> 01:24:30,528
Step carefully.
Whoa! Gee.
1983
01:24:32,099 --> 01:24:35,132
Oh, my God!
1984
01:24:35,132 --> 01:24:36,264
That was frickin’ great!
1985
01:24:36,264 --> 01:24:39,330
When you said
a tale of two lives,
1986
01:24:39,330 --> 01:24:43,528
that’s what it’s been.
1987
01:24:43,528 --> 01:24:45,726
Believe it or not,
\hthe same business
1988
01:24:45,726 --> 01:24:47,660
that might have
almost killed me,
1989
01:24:47,660 --> 01:24:50,264
I think, is the same business
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hthat saved me.
1990
01:24:50,264 --> 01:24:52,363
No, you did a great job,
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hphenomenal.
1991
01:24:52,363 --> 01:24:53,231
Thank you very much.
1992
01:24:53,231 --> 01:24:55,528
- These guys are easy
to work with, so--
1993
01:24:55,528 --> 01:24:59,000
- I know I accomplished
more than what I wanted.
1994
01:24:59,000 --> 01:25:01,396
I never lost touch
with the 19-year-old dude
1995
01:25:01,396 --> 01:25:04,759
that was hoping to have
a car and an apartment,
1996
01:25:04,759 --> 01:25:07,528
and be the Southwest
Heavy weight champion.
1997
01:25:07,528 --> 01:25:10,396
A lot more has happened
\h\h\h\h\h\hsince then.
1998
01:25:10,396 --> 01:25:14,396
[applause]
1999
01:25:14,396 --> 01:25:16,528
Whoa!
2000
01:25:16,528 --> 01:25:18,396
Jiminy Cricket.
2001
01:25:18,396 --> 01:25:22,660
Holy Toledo.
[laughs]
2002
01:25:22,660 --> 01:25:27,759
- That’s like the Shawn thing.
That’s like the Shawn dance.
2003
01:25:27,759 --> 01:25:31,000
- Golly!
2004
01:25:31,000 --> 01:25:33,000
Frickin’ awesome.
2005
01:25:33,000 --> 01:25:34,726
- ♪ I’m just a sexy boy
2006
01:25:34,726 --> 01:25:36,660
♪ Sexy boy
2007
01:25:36,660 --> 01:25:42,660
Oh, goodness gracious!
That is good stuff.
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