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- Take my phone?
\h\h\h\h\h- Sure.
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- Roddy.
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Yeah, I’m doing great.
\h\h\h\h\hHow are you?
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\h\hWe’re just getting ready
to do an interview about you.
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A little warm down there, huh?
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You what?
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Yeah, not anytime soon,
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hthough.
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You’re holding a place for me.
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\hRight next to you
at the table, huh?
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Great.
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No, I...no, I’m just gonna
\h\h\h\h\h\htalk about you,
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\h\h\hall good things,
not to worry about it.
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Great.
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Thanks, Roddy.
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\hRoddy’s in heaven.
Roddy’s not in hell.
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♪ ♪
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- We’ll check you
down there, guys.
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We’ll check you down there.
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♪ ♪
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- Rowdy Ronda Rousey!
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\h\h\h\h- Coming to the WWE,
I really wanted to make sure
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\hthat every single time
that I walked out there,
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\heveryone remembered
"Rowdy" Roddy Piper.
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Rowdy is the only name
I could have taken on.
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\hI wanted to make sure that
that next generation of kids
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\h\h\h\hknew who he was
and respected his memory
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and what he’s contributed
\h\h\h\h\hto the business.
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- When I ran into Piper,
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\hhe’s the one that made
everything else possible.
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\h\h\hHe was the key,
the cog in the wheel.
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\h\h\h\h\h\h\hWithout Piper,
we could have never launched
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into the stratosphere.
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- It’s as simple as this.
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When RP talks, brother,
\h\h\h\h\hpeople listen.
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- He was the ultimate bad guy.
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- How you doing, fatso?
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- He sold it. He practiced it.
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He was good at what he did.
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♪ ♪
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- Just when they think
\hthey got the answers,
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I change the questions.
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- Even if you had never heard
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hof Roddy Piper,
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\h\h\h\h\hyou could tell
you didn’t like this guy.
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- Nobody messes with Piper!
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\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- He was riveting.
- I seen a lot of men buried...
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- A really good-hearted guy,
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a really tough
son of a bitch.
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\h- He was not like
any other wrestler.
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He was in his own world,
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real strong family man.
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\h\h\h\h\h- He kept his family
completely out of the business,
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\h\h\hand I think he took
too much of it on himself.
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- Yeah!
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- Everything he did
\h\hfrom the moment
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he walked out in the ring
\h\h\hrubbed people wrong.
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- You’re gonna
see something
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\h\h\hyou never seen
in your life before.
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\h\h\h\h- Whatever it was,
he went against the grain,
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and he just lived
\hin that glory.
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♪ ♪
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[droning bagpipe music]
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♪ ♪
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- You know, God takes care
\h\h\hof fools and babies.
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♪ ♪
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Before I was a pro wrestler,
I got hit by a pickup truck.
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\h\h\h\h\h\h\hI was lived
in an Indian reservation.
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\h\h\h\h\h\hI had tonsillitis,
so they took out my appendix.
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I moved a lot.
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I got hurt a lot
as a little kid.
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♪ ♪
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- My dad, Roddy Piper,
he was born in Canada
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\h\h\hin a place called
Saskatoon, Saskatchewan,
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which is one of the coldest
\h\h\h\hplaces in the world.
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He used to tell me, you know,
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the story of running uphill
\h\h\hboth ways to school,
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\h\hright, in the snow?
He actually did that.
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\hHis dad was a police officer
that worked for the railroad,
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\h\h\h\h\hand this meant
that they traveled 24/7.
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\h\hThey would spend a week in
one town, a week in the next.
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\h\h\hI think he was
about 10 years old.
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He was on a Indian reservation
\h\h\h\hfor about six months,
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and he’s the only
\hwhite kid on it.
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Everybody else is Indian,
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\h\h\hand they don’t like
white people at the time,
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\hso he had to learn how
to fight his way through
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and get their respect.
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\h\h\h\h\hSo every few months,
no matter where he was going,
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he would have to start over,
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build his reputation,
\hand be the tough guy
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so he wouldn’t get hurt.
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He would go out and get
in trouble and come home
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\h\h\hand face all kinds
of physical punishment.
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[somber music]
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\h\h\h- It was a hard
Victorian upbringing,
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very strict.
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Being the youngest,
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he always kind of felt like
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he was an afterthought
\h\h\h\h\hin his family
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is what he would tell me.
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Like, he wasn’t expected.
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Not a lot of hugs.
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Not a lot of verbal
\h\h\h"I love yous."
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- My grandpa did beat my dad.
\h\h\hI don’t know how often,
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but he was physical enough
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hwith him
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that it was a dark place
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that my dad never really wanted
\h\h\h\hto talk about with us.
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- You’re 12, 11, 10 years old.
\h\h\h\h\h\hYou move 10 times.
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\h\h\hAll of a sudden,
you get into a fight,
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\hand you come back home
and you get into a fight
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because you got into a fight.
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You know, it’s...
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I don’t think that punishment,
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\h\hphysical punishment,
is a way to raise a kid.
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None of it goes on
\hin my house ever.
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- There was a lot of trauma
\h\h\h\h\hin his childhood,
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and it followed him.
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\h\hHe seemed like
the kind of person
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\h\hthat always had a demon
or something on his shoulder
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and that he was fighting with
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and I think that that started
\h\hat a very, very young age
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long before wrestling.
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[bagpipe music]
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- I got into my bagpipes
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\ha lot,
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and it kind of pulled me away
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hfrom everybody.
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I don’t know how,
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but that’s where I started,
\h\hwhen I was six years old
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playing the bagpipes.
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It was a place for me to go.
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hIt was loud.
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\h\hPeople knew,
don’t interrupt.
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It actually became
a hideaway for me.
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♪ ♪
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- One day I was in my house,
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and there was a knock
\h\h\hat my back door.
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\h\h\hAnd there was two friends
of mine with this new guy, Rod.
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And so they said to me,
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"Cam, you’re a pretty
\h\h\h\h\h\htough guy,
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\h"and this new guy, Rod,
he’s a pretty tough guy.
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Why don’t you have a fight?"
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I said, "Sure."
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And we went at it.
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\h\hLike in the movies,
he drilled me a good one
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and I flew overtop
of my motorcycle.
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And he won the fight.
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As I found out later,
\h\hRod told me he was
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the light heavyweight boxing
\h\h\h\h\hchamp of Toronto.
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And from that point on,
we became best friends.
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He was a high school wrestler,
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and he was number two
\h\h\h\h\hin the city.
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\h\hThat was his goal
was to be a wrestler.
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- And the day he did
\h\hgraduate school,
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he finally did leave home.
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\hHe would have liked a better
relationship with his father.
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You know, that was
\h\heating him up.
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As Rod became a young adult,
\h\h\hit just became too much
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\h’cause Rod wanted
to get rough back,
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but the only other choice would
\h\hbe to have an all-out brawl
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with your father.
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♪ ♪
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\h\h\h\h\h\hHe left home
and was out on his own.
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- It was just time to go,
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\h\h\hso I took my bagpipes
and I just never went back.
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- He was really a nomad.
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He went to youth hostels,
\h\h\h\h\hYMCAs, anywhere.
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Usually back then,
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five bucks for the night
\h\hand you could do it.
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Or you’d get there
\hand it’d be full,
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\h\h\h\h\hso you would be
on the street that night.
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- I had to make money,
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and so played my bagpipes
\h\h\hand I’d get quarters
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or whatever they give me.
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You sleep during the day.
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\h\hIt’s too dangerous
to sleep at nighttime.
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At nighttime, you get cold,
\h\h\h\h\h\hyou get hungry,
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and so you start
\hto try to feed
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some of these necessities.
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I started stealing
\h\hwhat I needed
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\h\h\h\h\h\h\hand then got
with a group of bad guys.
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\h\h\h\h\hAnd all of a sudden,
you’re carrying a switchblade,
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\h\h\hand--you know,
and then the fights.
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\h\h\hNow I was getting off
on this bully type of thing,
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which I hated.
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- He was beaten up.
He was made fun of.
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Half of those beatings
\h\h\h\h\hwere because
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\hsomebody was trying
to sexually abuse him,
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and you fight back.
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\h- You know, I think he did a
little robbery here and there,
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and he was terribly
\h\hashamed of it.
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It was a brief part
\h\h\hof his life.
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He also would fight.
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People would pay to see him
\h\h\h\hfight on the street.
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Doing whatever it takes
\h\h\h\h\h\hto survive.
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\h\h- I was living
in a youth hostel.
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\hFather O’Malley,
you know, he says,
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"You know, Roderick,
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\h\h\hhave you ever seen
professional wrestling?"
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I said, "No, sir."
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He says, "I can get you $25."
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Whew! You know, that was,
like, three months’ rent.
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- He was 15 years old
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\h\h\h\hwhen he had his
first professional fight
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\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hagainst
Larry "The Axe" Hennig.
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- Larry Hennig
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coming into the ring
\h\hat this time...
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- You know, Rod, he knew
that he needed an angle.
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I don’t believe at that time
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\hhe’d come up with
Rowdy Roddy Piper.
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His name was Rod Toombs,
so he went by that name.
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[playing bagpipe music]
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\h\h\hI don’t know
how many wrestlers
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can play the bagpipes
\h\h\h\hand has kilt.
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And so that’s what he did
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to distinguish himself
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\hbased on the talent
that he actually had.
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- The announcer, he just
knew my name was Roddy.
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He had to announce something,
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hand he says,
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"Ladies and gentlemen
\h\h\h\hhere comes...
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♪ ♪
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Roddy the Piper."
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\h\h\h\h- He was just
naturally good at it,
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\h\h\hand then that evolved
into his wrestling career,
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\hsince it was a special skill
that he could use as a gimmick.
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People would stand up and say...
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you know, and yell at him.
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That was his goal
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was to get people
pissed off at him,
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so they’re going to look
\h\h\h\hin the program:
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"Who is this guy?"
231
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- My nose was broke, you know?
232
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And Larry only hit me twice,
\h\h\hbut he did a good job.
233
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My eye was drooping,
\h\h\h\hand he says,
234
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"Kid, how’d you like to go
\h\h\h\h\hto Kansas City?"
235
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And that’s how I got
into pro wrestling,
236
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and I never stopped.
237
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- He knew that there was going
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hto be many days
238
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\h\hthat he didn’t know where
the next paycheck was coming,
239
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\h\h\hand so he just
threw himself at it.
240
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\h\hThat took him
all across Canada
241
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and then into the States,
242
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\h\h\hjust wherever
he could get a job.
243
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- When wrestling came along,
\h\h\hthat’s why I just boom!
244
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\h\h\hBecause it had all the
elements without the police.
245
00:09:59,462 --> 00:10:01,198
- There were more
\h\hthan two dozen
246
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wrestling territories
\h\hin North America,
247
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\h\h\h\hso that meant that guys
could make a living uprooting,
248
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going from territory
\h\h\h\hto territory.
249
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- I’m so fortunate
to have wrestling
250
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and the way it evolved.
251
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\h\h\h\hIf it hadn’t,
I would’ve been dead.
252
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There’s no doubt about it.
253
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I’ve got a baby face
\h\h\hthat looks 12,
254
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\h\h\hin a dress,
playing bagpipes,
255
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and they just beat me up.
256
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- So when you’re
just getting in,
257
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\h\hyou’re breaking
into pro wrestling,
258
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what do you do?
259
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They beat you up,
260
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and you have to continuously
get up and keep coming back.
261
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- I got my first break
\h\h\hin Los Angeles,
262
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and holy cow.
263
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Really, really brutal,
\h\h\h\h\hbrutal days.
264
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- Roddy came into the gym.
265
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I says, "What are you doing?"
266
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"You gonna sweep up
\h\h\h\hthe place,
267
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or sell hot doggies,
\hchicken on a bun?"
268
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He says, "No, I’m a wrestler."
269
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\h\hAnd I says, "You look like
you got polio in your stomach,
270
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"you’re so small.
271
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\h\h\h\h"You’ll never make it.
You got to learn how to wrestle
272
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\h\h\h\hso you can be
a sadistic bastard."
273
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- We’re gonna see things
\h\h\hthat are different,
274
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that’s never been seen before,
\h\h\h\hever, ever on any film.
275
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♪ ♪
276
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Don’t practice this without
\h\h\ha qualified instructor
277
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right there with you.
278
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- Judo Gene--if you don’t
\h\h\hknow, look him up--
279
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was the toughest man
\h\h\hin the world,
280
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trained Bruce Lee,
\h\hChuck Norris,
281
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Rowdy Ronda Rousey.
282
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\h\h- Gene LeBell
I would consider
283
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the most decorated stuntman
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hof all time.
284
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He was in the first-ever
\h\htelevised MMA event.
285
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\hWhen I was doing judo,
he would help me a lot.
286
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And then when I got in to MMA,
287
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he was in my corner for, like,
\h\h\h\h\hevery single match.
288
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- Judo Gene saw that these
\h\hguys were bullying me,
289
00:11:59,726 --> 00:12:02,396
and Gene would tell me
what to do on the fly.
290
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\h\h\h\h- You got to beat them
with the dark side of the moon.
291
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Roddy said, "What’s the dark
\h\h\h\h\hside of the moon?"
292
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\h\h\h"Well, what the referee
doesn’t see, didn’t happen."
293
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\h\hWatch you don’t
take the eyes out.
294
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\h\h\hThis is the throat.
Throat’s a great handle.
295
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- [yells]
296
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- He’d call me late at night.
297
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And my wife said,
298
00:12:22,495 --> 00:12:25,330
"Hey, it must be Roddy
\h\h\h\hcalling again."
299
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\hSo he says, "Hey, let’s go
and roll for a couple hours."
300
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We worked out hard,
\hno playing games.
301
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He wanted to know
\hhow to wrestle.
302
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- The LeBell family is...
303
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they’re legendary.
304
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\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hThey ran
the Olympic Auditorium,
305
00:12:41,330 --> 00:12:43,396
\h\h\h\h\hand because Dad
had earned their respect,
306
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he was able then to wrestle
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hthere in LA
307
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for the LeBell family,
308
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and that is really where Dad
309
00:12:49,495 --> 00:12:51,396
\h\hgot the chance
to spread his wings
310
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\h\h\h\hand really become
not just another fighter
311
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but the one they came to see.
312
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♪ ♪
313
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- One of my favorite memories
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hwith him
314
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is when I was, like, 15.
315
00:13:08,528 --> 00:13:11,000
He brought me to LA
\hto see Hollywood,
316
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and I wanted to be an actress
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hand a singer.
317
00:13:14,132 --> 00:13:16,066
\h\h\h\h\h\hAnd so, to me,
Hollywood was like, "Whoo!"
318
00:13:16,066 --> 00:13:19,198
\h\h\hMarilyn Monroe handprints,
and the glamour and all of that.
319
00:13:19,198 --> 00:13:22,198
\h\hAnd we get here
and he rents a car,
320
00:13:22,198 --> 00:13:23,330
he’s like, "All right, kid,
321
00:13:23,330 --> 00:13:26,000
I’m gonna take you
\h\h\haround town."
322
00:13:26,264 --> 00:13:28,528
First thing he does is,
\h\h\hhe goes somewhere
323
00:13:28,528 --> 00:13:30,627
into, like, the Compton,
\h\h\h\h\h\hmaybe, area.
324
00:13:30,627 --> 00:13:32,528
I was a little young
\h\h\hto understand
325
00:13:32,528 --> 00:13:33,660
what I was looking at.
326
00:13:33,660 --> 00:13:34,495
And he was like,
327
00:13:34,495 --> 00:13:36,528
"That’s where your father
\h\hslept on the streets.
328
00:13:36,528 --> 00:13:40,528
\h"A woman got murdered
right outside my window,
329
00:13:40,528 --> 00:13:43,000
but I didn’t say anything,
\h’cause I’m not a snitch."
330
00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:47,594
\hHe’s just telling me
these horrific stories.
331
00:13:48,264 --> 00:13:51,495
So then I come home
from that vacation.
332
00:13:51,495 --> 00:13:53,099
My friends asked me,
\h\h\hthey’re like,
333
00:13:53,099 --> 00:13:54,627
"How’s Hollywood?"
And they were like,
334
00:13:54,627 --> 00:13:55,726
"Did you see this and that?"
335
00:13:55,726 --> 00:13:59,396
I was like, "I think I got
\h\h\hthe wrestlers’ tour."
336
00:13:59,396 --> 00:14:01,066
[laughs]
337
00:14:01,495 --> 00:14:05,132
[upbeat Spanish guitar music]
338
00:14:05,132 --> 00:14:09,462
♪ ♪
339
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- I was born and grew up
\h\h\h\hin Los Angeles,
340
00:14:12,231 --> 00:14:14,000
and some of my earliest memories
that I have
341
00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:15,495
\h\h\h\h\hare actually about
professional wrestling,
342
00:14:15,495 --> 00:14:17,594
being a professional
\h\h\hwrestling fan.
343
00:14:17,594 --> 00:14:19,099
I remember going
down on the bus,
344
00:14:19,099 --> 00:14:21,528
running with my stepfather,
\h\h\htrying to catch a bus
345
00:14:21,528 --> 00:14:23,198
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hto go down
to the Olympic Auditorium.
346
00:14:23,198 --> 00:14:26,528
In 1976, one of the new faces
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hin the territory
347
00:14:26,528 --> 00:14:29,363
\h\h\h\h\h\hwas a young lad
by the name of Roddy Piper.
348
00:14:29,363 --> 00:14:32,198
He was 21 years old.
349
00:14:32,198 --> 00:14:34,132
He was a young,
fresh-faced kid.
350
00:14:34,132 --> 00:14:37,660
\hFans gave him
polite applause.
351
00:14:38,396 --> 00:14:41,726
They start wrestling, and it
starts out as a clean match.
352
00:14:41,726 --> 00:14:44,396
But little by little, subtly,
353
00:14:44,396 --> 00:14:48,660
he starts doing these things
that only a villain would do.
354
00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:50,726
He was fighting,
355
00:14:50,726 --> 00:14:52,462
and he was giving people
\h\h\hkicks to the groin
356
00:14:52,462 --> 00:14:54,396
during his wrestling matches.
357
00:14:54,396 --> 00:14:56,396
♪ ♪
358
00:14:56,396 --> 00:14:59,462
It was like watching
\h\h\h\ha caterpillar
359
00:14:59,462 --> 00:15:00,594
transform into a butterfly,
360
00:15:00,594 --> 00:15:05,264
and you just saw this magic
happening before your eyes.
361
00:15:05,264 --> 00:15:07,132
People were booing
\h\h\hRoddy Piper.
362
00:15:07,132 --> 00:15:10,231
They absolutely hated
\h\h\h\h\hwho he was.
363
00:15:10,231 --> 00:15:11,198
- I am the intelligence.
364
00:15:11,198 --> 00:15:13,627
I think the most controversial
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hthing I did
365
00:15:13,627 --> 00:15:15,264
was stir up controversy
366
00:15:15,264 --> 00:15:17,132
because it draws money.
367
00:15:17,132 --> 00:15:18,660
Conflict draws money.
368
00:15:18,660 --> 00:15:22,066
- The wheels were always turning
for him as to what can I say,
369
00:15:22,066 --> 00:15:23,066
what can I do next?
370
00:15:23,066 --> 00:15:25,000
\h\h\h\h\h’cause you had
to keep them interested.
371
00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:27,000
You had to keep them
\h\h\h\hcoming back.
372
00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:29,264
- There’s no way, Piper!
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Hey!
373
00:15:29,264 --> 00:15:30,363
\h\h\h\h- Oh!
- Hey! Piper!
374
00:15:30,363 --> 00:15:32,000
- Get up, you think
\h\h\hyou’re so tough!
375
00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:34,231
\h\h\h\h\h- Anything he did,
he wanted to be good at it.
376
00:15:34,231 --> 00:15:36,396
- I don’t plan to go in there
\h\h\h\h\h\hand make it easy.
377
00:15:36,396 --> 00:15:38,759
I don’t plan to go in there
\hand not have some knocks
378
00:15:38,759 --> 00:15:40,264
on my own noggin, brother.
379
00:15:40,264 --> 00:15:42,396
- And they used him
to do the interviews
380
00:15:42,396 --> 00:15:49,264
\h\h\h\h\h\hbecause he would showboat
and help sell boletos, tickets.
381
00:15:49,264 --> 00:15:51,099
- You’re a pig,
\h\h\h\h\h\hGuerrero!
382
00:15:51,099 --> 00:15:53,363
Your father was a pig,
383
00:15:53,363 --> 00:15:55,066
your brother was a pig,
384
00:15:55,066 --> 00:15:56,231
and you’re a pig, Guerrero!
385
00:15:56,231 --> 00:16:00,066
\h\h\h\h- The Guerrero family
was one of the first families
386
00:16:00,066 --> 00:16:02,099
in professional wrestling.
387
00:16:02,099 --> 00:16:03,132
If you’re of Latino descent,
388
00:16:03,132 --> 00:16:06,759
\h\h\h\hyou didn’t really see
a lot of faces on television
389
00:16:06,759 --> 00:16:07,660
that were like yours.
390
00:16:07,660 --> 00:16:10,495
\hAnd usually if you did, they
played the roles of a gardener,
391
00:16:10,495 --> 00:16:12,099
or they played the role
\h\h\h\h\h\hof a maid.
392
00:16:12,099 --> 00:16:18,660
So for us to see the Guerrero
\h\h\h\h\hfamily in hero roles
393
00:16:18,660 --> 00:16:20,759
was very important.
394
00:16:20,759 --> 00:16:22,330
We worshiped them.
395
00:16:22,330 --> 00:16:23,660
- You get in that ring,
\h\h\h\hChavo Guerrero,
396
00:16:23,660 --> 00:16:25,396
\h\h\hand it’s going to be
all over for you, brother,
397
00:16:25,396 --> 00:16:27,264
because I don’t give a damn
\h\habout nothing no more.
398
00:16:27,264 --> 00:16:29,726
\h\h\h\h\h- When Roddy Piper
would insult the Guerreros,
399
00:16:29,726 --> 00:16:31,528
we took it very personally.
400
00:16:31,528 --> 00:16:34,462
- You sitting at home
with your fat bellies
401
00:16:34,462 --> 00:16:37,495
and your construction boots
\h\h\h\hdrinking your beer,
402
00:16:37,495 --> 00:16:38,594
you know who I am.
403
00:16:38,594 --> 00:16:41,396
- Roddy really had
the whole package.
404
00:16:41,396 --> 00:16:43,066
\h\h\h\h\h\hIn the ring,
he was a dirty wrestler,
405
00:16:43,066 --> 00:16:45,462
\h\h\h\hbut he had all this
tremendous frenetic energy.
406
00:16:45,462 --> 00:16:49,198
But also, he knew how to get
\ha reaction out of the fans,
407
00:16:49,198 --> 00:16:50,594
and one of the ways
\hhe would do that
408
00:16:50,594 --> 00:16:53,198
was to bring his bagpipes
\h\h\h\h\hout to the ring.
409
00:16:53,198 --> 00:16:54,132
[playing off-key]
410
00:16:54,132 --> 00:16:56,000
- One time, he told everybody
411
00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,759
\h\h\hand silenced
the entire stadium,
412
00:16:58,759 --> 00:17:01,198
he’d play the Mexican
\h\h\hnational anthem
413
00:17:01,198 --> 00:17:04,396
to apologize for attacking
\h\h\h\h\h\hthe Guerreros.
414
00:17:04,396 --> 00:17:08,000
- I said, "You know,
\hI love you people.
415
00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:11,726
\h\h\hI’d like to do
something special."
416
00:17:11,726 --> 00:17:12,594
[crowd booing]
417
00:17:12,594 --> 00:17:17,000
\hAnd all the wonderful
Hispanic people came in.
418
00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:18,099
I’m in the ring.
419
00:17:18,099 --> 00:17:26,066
\h\h\h\hAnd, "Please stand for
the Mexican national anthem."
420
00:17:27,066 --> 00:17:31,660
[whispering] Just like this
\h\h\h\h\hI said to myself,
421
00:17:31,660 --> 00:17:33,726
"I’m gonna die."
422
00:17:33,726 --> 00:17:36,528
I put those bagpipes up, man.
423
00:17:36,528 --> 00:17:38,264
It’s too late, right?
424
00:17:38,264 --> 00:17:40,132
- And Roddy starts
playing his notes,
425
00:17:40,132 --> 00:17:42,264
and it’s not the Mexican
\h\h\h\hnational anthem.
426
00:17:42,264 --> 00:17:44,462
But he starts playing
\h\h\h"La Cucaracha."
427
00:17:44,462 --> 00:17:46,363
He starts playing a song
\h\h\habout a cockroach.
428
00:17:46,363 --> 00:17:50,066
[playing "La Cucaracha"
\h\h\h\h\h\hon bagpipes]
429
00:17:50,066 --> 00:17:51,759
♪ ♪
430
00:17:51,759 --> 00:17:55,198
♪ La cucaracha, la cucaracha ♪
431
00:17:55,198 --> 00:17:55,759
[hums]
432
00:17:55,759 --> 00:18:00,396
Holy cow, chairs that were
bolted down in the cement,
433
00:18:00,396 --> 00:18:03,132
here they come.
434
00:18:03,132 --> 00:18:04,396
- And the fans...
435
00:18:04,396 --> 00:18:06,660
♪ ♪
436
00:18:06,660 --> 00:18:07,627
They’re just shocked.
437
00:18:07,627 --> 00:18:10,528
\h\h\h\h- Chairs come up.
Things are being thrown.
438
00:18:10,528 --> 00:18:11,594
Stage is being overcome.
439
00:18:11,594 --> 00:18:14,528
\h\h\h- It was like watching...
watching a car wreck, you know?
440
00:18:14,528 --> 00:18:16,660
It’s a horrible thing to see,
\h\h\h\hbut at the same time,
441
00:18:16,660 --> 00:18:18,396
you can’t take your eyes
\h\h\h\h\h\haway from it.
442
00:18:18,396 --> 00:18:21,132
- I was there that night,
443
00:18:21,132 --> 00:18:23,462
and I was going to...
444
00:18:23,462 --> 00:18:24,726
whiz in my pants.
445
00:18:24,726 --> 00:18:27,099
\h- You can’t write
that kind of stuff.
446
00:18:27,099 --> 00:18:30,132
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- I says,
"This guy is a natural."
447
00:18:30,132 --> 00:18:34,462
♪ ♪
448
00:18:40,594 --> 00:18:45,330
- You had to move around,
\hespecially as a bad guy.
449
00:18:45,330 --> 00:18:46,660
You would run your course,
450
00:18:46,660 --> 00:18:51,660
and then you needed to go on
and find another place to go
451
00:18:51,660 --> 00:18:53,528
and stake your claim
\h\h\h\h\hfor a while
452
00:18:53,528 --> 00:18:56,264
and then you would move on
\h\h\h\h\h\hsomewhere else.
453
00:18:56,264 --> 00:18:58,759
- I am extremely pleased
454
00:18:58,759 --> 00:19:02,264
to take my wonderful trophy.
455
00:19:02,264 --> 00:19:05,396
- Once I left Los Angeles,
\hwhen I went to Portland,
456
00:19:05,396 --> 00:19:06,495
nobody knew who I was,
457
00:19:06,495 --> 00:19:09,000
so you had to start
\h\hall over again.
458
00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:12,198
[hopeful music]
459
00:19:12,198 --> 00:19:17,594
♪ ♪
460
00:19:23,627 --> 00:19:25,099
Did you find the choke?
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Yeah.
461
00:19:25,099 --> 00:19:29,660
- Okay, kick the engine over,
leaving the throttle closed.
462
00:19:29,660 --> 00:19:34,132
\h\h\h\hIt’s probably just new.
It needs--takes a lot of kicks.
463
00:19:34,132 --> 00:19:35,132
- Yeah.
464
00:19:35,132 --> 00:19:37,132
- I met Roddy in 1979.
465
00:19:37,132 --> 00:19:41,066
I was working graveyard shift
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\has a waitress
466
00:19:41,066 --> 00:19:43,264
just southwest side
\h\h\h\hof Portland.
467
00:19:43,264 --> 00:19:45,000
- Get you something out there.
468
00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,726
- Roderick, you’re lucky
\h\hI had it high enough
469
00:19:47,726 --> 00:19:50,396
that that didn’t show.
\h\h\h\h\h\h- [laughs]
470
00:19:50,396 --> 00:19:54,231
\h\h- He was the funniest
human being on the planet.
471
00:19:54,231 --> 00:19:57,000
\h[snickers]
- Is that it?
472
00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:57,594
- Oh, the guy...
473
00:19:57,594 --> 00:20:02,132
\h\hall the wrinkles on my face
are from him making me laugh.
474
00:20:02,132 --> 00:20:04,264
\h\h\h\hI was young,
I was 19 years old,
475
00:20:04,264 --> 00:20:07,000
\hand so all the other
waitresses would say,
476
00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:09,099
\h\h\h\h"You go wait
on those wrestlers."
477
00:20:09,099 --> 00:20:10,264
Prime rib was always
\h\h\h\hwhat he got.
478
00:20:10,264 --> 00:20:14,660
\hHe ordered two prime ribs and
always two pieces of lemon pie.
479
00:20:14,660 --> 00:20:16,660
He started asking me,
480
00:20:16,660 --> 00:20:18,264
\h"Hey, can I have
your phone number?
481
00:20:18,264 --> 00:20:20,396
I’d like to ask you out."
482
00:20:20,759 --> 00:20:23,660
I thought he was cute as heck.
\h\h\hThought he cute as heck.
483
00:20:23,660 --> 00:20:27,231
\h\hBut the crowd he was with
was so loud, and so I’m like,
484
00:20:27,231 --> 00:20:29,660
"Nah, you know.
\hHey, hi, hi."
485
00:20:29,660 --> 00:20:32,627
\h\hSo we kind of flirted,
but after about a month,
486
00:20:32,627 --> 00:20:35,099
his tag-team partner,
\h\h\h\hKiller Brooks,
487
00:20:35,099 --> 00:20:36,660
got down on his knees
\h\h\h\h\hand he says,
488
00:20:36,660 --> 00:20:38,198
\h"Please give him
your phone number.
489
00:20:38,198 --> 00:20:39,264
"I’m his tag-team partner,
490
00:20:39,264 --> 00:20:41,363
\h\h\h"and I’m getting
beat to heck out there
491
00:20:41,363 --> 00:20:43,726
"because he’s only
thinking about you.
492
00:20:43,726 --> 00:20:45,099
He wants to get to know you."
493
00:20:45,099 --> 00:20:48,000
So I said, "Okay, I’ll take
\h\h\h\hhis phone number."
494
00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:51,132
And then we hit it off.
495
00:20:52,396 --> 00:20:56,231
♪ ♪
496
00:20:56,231 --> 00:20:57,264
Portland wrestling
497
00:20:57,264 --> 00:21:00,660
\hin the late ’70s,
early ’80s was huge.
498
00:21:00,660 --> 00:21:03,066
\h\h\hThe buildings
were always packed.
499
00:21:03,066 --> 00:21:05,066
\h\h\hFrom the moment
I started dating him,
500
00:21:05,066 --> 00:21:07,396
\hanywhere we would go,
people knew who he was.
501
00:21:07,396 --> 00:21:10,594
\hEveryone pretty much
had the same reaction.
502
00:21:10,594 --> 00:21:11,660
They were shocked,
503
00:21:11,660 --> 00:21:12,759
but after they met him,
504
00:21:12,759 --> 00:21:18,132
\hthey all understood that he
was a genuine guy and caring.
505
00:21:18,132 --> 00:21:20,231
- You come down here
and burn your bra
506
00:21:20,231 --> 00:21:21,198
and think you’re something?
507
00:21:21,198 --> 00:21:22,594
You’re getting in there
with men...
508
00:21:22,594 --> 00:21:24,660
- And to have to do something
509
00:21:24,660 --> 00:21:27,330
like when he attacked
\h\ha woman wrestler,
510
00:21:27,330 --> 00:21:29,264
he has to do it over the top
511
00:21:29,264 --> 00:21:31,528
because it’s so hard
\h\h\hfor him to do.
512
00:21:31,528 --> 00:21:35,132
- This is why men wrestle
and why women don’t!
513
00:21:35,132 --> 00:21:37,264
\hThis is why!
Get outta here!
514
00:21:37,264 --> 00:21:38,495
Get outta here!
\h\hThat’s why!
515
00:21:38,495 --> 00:21:43,726
- For Roddy in real life,
a woman is on a pedestal.
516
00:21:43,726 --> 00:21:45,000
♪ ♪
517
00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:46,495
He’s very old-fashioned.
518
00:21:46,495 --> 00:21:48,099
He would never hit a woman.
519
00:21:48,099 --> 00:21:51,396
\hHe would never
insult a woman.
520
00:21:51,396 --> 00:21:53,627
And I decided early on,
521
00:21:53,627 --> 00:21:56,396
I was gonna love Roddy
\h\h\hno matter what.
522
00:21:56,396 --> 00:21:58,000
I did and I do
523
00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:02,000
and wouldn’t change it
\h\h\h\hfor the world.
524
00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:10,231
♪ ♪
525
00:22:10,231 --> 00:22:13,759
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- In Portland,
it was a smaller territory.
526
00:22:13,759 --> 00:22:16,660
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hIn Atlanta,
the business was growing.
527
00:22:16,660 --> 00:22:17,726
You had to move around,
528
00:22:17,726 --> 00:22:22,396
and you had to be able to go
from territory to territory.
529
00:22:22,396 --> 00:22:25,264
\h\h\hThat’s the way that the
business worked at the time.
530
00:22:25,264 --> 00:22:27,495
\h- They called me
on the East Coast.
531
00:22:27,495 --> 00:22:31,264
I was ready at any time to get
up and take a left-hand turn.
532
00:22:31,264 --> 00:22:33,759
And I drove the old
\h\h\hyellow canary
533
00:22:33,759 --> 00:22:36,132
right across the country.
534
00:22:36,132 --> 00:22:39,759
[upbeat rock music]
535
00:22:39,759 --> 00:22:42,726
- WTBS in Atlanta, Georgia,
536
00:22:42,726 --> 00:22:45,396
Ted Turner’s superstation,
537
00:22:45,396 --> 00:22:48,396
wrestling was a staple.
538
00:22:49,396 --> 00:22:51,000
Here’s Roddy Piper.
539
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:55,000
Very few people knew who he
\h\hwas on a national basis.
540
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,495
He wasn’t the biggest guy
\h\h\h\h\h\hin the world,
541
00:22:57,495 --> 00:22:59,363
but the one thing that he did
542
00:22:59,363 --> 00:23:01,660
better than anybody else
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hwas talk.
543
00:23:01,660 --> 00:23:04,264
\h- It’s a pleasure for you
to have me here, I’m sure.
544
00:23:04,264 --> 00:23:06,264
You see, being the expert
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hthat I am...
545
00:23:06,264 --> 00:23:11,396
- The promoters realized Roddy
\h\hknew how to tell a story,
546
00:23:11,396 --> 00:23:16,000
\h\hnot just his own story,
but other people’s stories.
547
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:17,660
- People want to get
\h\hfamiliar with me.
548
00:23:17,660 --> 00:23:19,099
People like yourself...
549
00:23:19,099 --> 00:23:20,660
- He was brought in
\h\h\has Rod Piper,
550
00:23:20,660 --> 00:23:22,660
the color commentator:
551
00:23:22,660 --> 00:23:24,726
sport coat, no kilt,
552
00:23:24,726 --> 00:23:30,627
and then the color commentator
\h\hbegan to skew his views...
553
00:23:30,627 --> 00:23:33,132
- You got a big,
\hbig, big mouth.
554
00:23:33,132 --> 00:23:35,264
- If they let a bald-headed
geek like you in...
555
00:23:35,264 --> 00:23:37,462
- Maybe a little bit
\h\h\hmore nasty...
556
00:23:37,462 --> 00:23:39,330
- You just stay out of my way,
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hpig face!
557
00:23:39,330 --> 00:23:43,000
- Maybe a little bit more
against the fan favorites.
558
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,660
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- And you won’t have
to worry about nothing, man.
559
00:23:45,660 --> 00:23:46,726
- Pig face?
560
00:23:46,726 --> 00:23:51,000
- And they created another way
561
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,132
to get this character over.
562
00:23:53,132 --> 00:23:55,330
- They say stick and stones
may break my bones
563
00:23:55,330 --> 00:23:56,396
but words will never hurt me.
564
00:23:56,396 --> 00:23:58,759
Well, some of the words he
says about me and my family
565
00:23:58,759 --> 00:23:59,660
have hurt me deeply.
566
00:23:59,660 --> 00:24:02,132
\h- Sticks and stones
may break your bones.
567
00:24:02,132 --> 00:24:03,198
You are right!
568
00:24:03,198 --> 00:24:06,759
\h\h\h\hAnd I’m nuts enough
to throw sticks and stones!
569
00:24:06,759 --> 00:24:08,528
- Now you’ve got,
570
00:24:08,528 --> 00:24:11,396
\h\h\h\h\h"I’m gonna kick
that commentator’s butt."
571
00:24:11,396 --> 00:24:13,000
- Piper into the ring.
572
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,000
\h\h\h- The commentator was
a wrestler and a tough guy.
573
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,594
\h- As he gets through the
ropes, and they go at it!
574
00:24:17,594 --> 00:24:19,726
- Now he comes out
\h\hwith the kilt.
575
00:24:19,726 --> 00:24:21,660
- The wild man, Roddy Piper.
576
00:24:21,660 --> 00:24:22,759
- Now he’s Roddy Piper.
577
00:24:22,759 --> 00:24:25,726
- Roddy Piper, the only way
\h\h\hthat he’s really been
578
00:24:25,726 --> 00:24:29,231
outstanding in this match
is his bad sportsmanship.
579
00:24:29,231 --> 00:24:33,264
They’re trying to literally
carry Piper out of the ring.
580
00:24:33,264 --> 00:24:35,000
- I told you Piper pays back!
581
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:38,396
\h\hI told you, nobody--
nobody messes with Piper!
582
00:24:38,396 --> 00:24:40,594
- When he wrestles
\h\has a bad guy,
583
00:24:40,594 --> 00:24:42,627
that was the most comfortable
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hfor him.
584
00:24:42,627 --> 00:24:45,759
- Come out here right now
and fight me like a man!
585
00:24:45,759 --> 00:24:47,396
\h\h\hCome right now!
- If you’re a bad guy,
586
00:24:47,396 --> 00:24:51,363
\hfans aren’t gonna come up
and shake your hand as much.
587
00:24:51,363 --> 00:24:54,231
He could be alone more
\h\hif he was a bad guy.
588
00:24:54,231 --> 00:24:59,066
Maybe because he was alone
in life early on so often,
589
00:24:59,066 --> 00:25:00,660
that’s where he was
\h\h\h\hcomfortable.
590
00:25:00,660 --> 00:25:02,660
\h\h\h\h\h- Piper has
hit him with his fist.
591
00:25:02,660 --> 00:25:05,132
He hit him in the jaw
with a roll of coins.
592
00:25:05,132 --> 00:25:09,330
\h- As a kid, he was around
some of the roughest people
593
00:25:09,330 --> 00:25:10,495
you can imagine.
\h- It’s mine!
594
00:25:10,495 --> 00:25:12,000
- And sometimes I wonder
\h\h\h\h\hif that’s part
595
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:16,594
\hof what pieced together that
bad guy psychology that he had.
596
00:25:16,594 --> 00:25:20,000
- I am the legend killer.
597
00:25:20,330 --> 00:25:21,330
[pen scratching]
598
00:25:21,330 --> 00:25:22,462
- So my dad did
\h\hthis thing.
599
00:25:22,462 --> 00:25:25,099
\h\h\h\hThere were these yellow
legal pads that he would write.
600
00:25:25,099 --> 00:25:27,363
\h\h\hHe would write
all kinds of ideas.
601
00:25:27,363 --> 00:25:29,726
- Just in case he had
\h\h\hthe opportunity
602
00:25:29,726 --> 00:25:31,132
that a mic was handed to him
603
00:25:31,132 --> 00:25:32,660
so that he had something
\h\h\h\h\h\hgreat to say.
604
00:25:32,660 --> 00:25:34,264
- You know, you couldn’t
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hget a date
605
00:25:34,264 --> 00:25:36,528
\hwith a $100 bill
on your forehead.
606
00:25:36,528 --> 00:25:38,000
I wouldn’t fight you
607
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:41,000
if my grandma was threatened
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hby the Huns.
608
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,000
Sometimes maybe I heard it
609
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:44,396
\h\h\h\h\hin the middle
of a rock and roll song.
610
00:25:44,396 --> 00:25:49,231
I just had a knack for putting
that kind of stuff together.
611
00:25:49,231 --> 00:25:51,264
Of course, I don’t have
\h\hto impress somebody.
612
00:25:51,264 --> 00:25:52,264
They got to impress me,
613
00:25:52,264 --> 00:25:54,198
because I’m Roddy Piper
\h\h\h\hand you’re not.
614
00:25:54,198 --> 00:25:55,660
\h\h\h\h- And that’s why
he was so quick-witted,
615
00:25:55,660 --> 00:25:57,396
because he put in work
\h\h\hnobody else did.
616
00:25:57,396 --> 00:26:01,132
When everybody else was partying
and drinking, which he did,
617
00:26:01,132 --> 00:26:03,660
he also was thinking and writing
these things down.
618
00:26:03,660 --> 00:26:05,264
- Like, sometimes
people say to me,
619
00:26:05,264 --> 00:26:07,594
"Oh, you just say what comes
\hoff the top of your head."
620
00:26:07,594 --> 00:26:10,099
Oh, [bleep] horse[bleep].
621
00:26:10,099 --> 00:26:10,528
[scoffs]
622
00:26:10,528 --> 00:26:14,000
\h\h\h\h\hYou have no idea
how much work went into it.
623
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:17,594
I seen a lot of men buried
wearing a $50 Stetson
624
00:26:17,594 --> 00:26:20,759
and carrying a five-buck gun,
you geek.
625
00:26:20,759 --> 00:26:22,264
- Whoo-whoo!
626
00:26:22,264 --> 00:26:23,231
[dramatic music]
627
00:26:23,231 --> 00:26:25,594
\h\h- There was a guy named
Ric Flair on the East Coast.
628
00:26:25,594 --> 00:26:29,396
\h\h\h\h\h\h- The greatest wrestling
in the whole entire wide world
629
00:26:29,396 --> 00:26:31,396
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hcomes right out
of the Mid-Atlantic area,
630
00:26:31,396 --> 00:26:34,264
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hand Roddy Piper and I
are glad to be here, brother.
631
00:26:34,264 --> 00:26:35,660
- Ric and I were so different.
632
00:26:35,660 --> 00:26:37,594
You know, I wear a kilt.
\h\h\h\h\h\hRic doesn’t.
633
00:26:37,594 --> 00:26:41,132
He’s blond. I ain’t.
\h\h\h\h\hYou know?
634
00:26:41,132 --> 00:26:44,231
That we got along real well
\h\h\h\h\houtside the ring,
635
00:26:44,231 --> 00:26:47,396
\h\h\h\h\hand then everything
started to get out of control.
636
00:26:47,396 --> 00:26:50,000
\h- Piper and Flair
have formed a pact,
637
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,528
and where there’s trouble,
\hwe won’t be hard to find.
638
00:26:53,528 --> 00:26:54,528
- He’s got a belt.
639
00:26:54,528 --> 00:26:56,264
\h\h\h\h\h- Well, I knew--
yeah, I’d heard his name,
640
00:26:56,264 --> 00:26:58,660
\hbut I didn’t know
anything about him.
641
00:26:58,660 --> 00:27:00,528
He came in the studio,
642
00:27:00,528 --> 00:27:02,132
and I knew right away
I was gonna like him.
643
00:27:02,132 --> 00:27:06,066
\hHe was full of himself,
and, man, I mean, talent.
644
00:27:06,066 --> 00:27:07,462
- Ric Flair, Roddy Piper!
645
00:27:07,462 --> 00:27:09,198
That’s what it’s all about!
646
00:27:09,198 --> 00:27:10,726
\h\hThat’s what
it’s all about!
647
00:27:10,726 --> 00:27:12,528
- God, he was entertaining.
648
00:27:12,528 --> 00:27:15,000
\h\h\h\h\h\hIt was so good
that it made everybody mad.
649
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:19,495
- You’re gonna find it’s a
whole lot easier to jump on
650
00:27:19,495 --> 00:27:21,132
than it is to jump off.
651
00:27:21,132 --> 00:27:22,660
- Whoo!
652
00:27:23,363 --> 00:27:26,330
\h\h\h- I had moved over there
to the East Coast with Roddy,
653
00:27:26,330 --> 00:27:29,759
and we were expecting
\h\h\hour first child.
654
00:27:29,759 --> 00:27:31,330
It was very rowdy times.
655
00:27:31,330 --> 00:27:35,066
\h\h\h\h\hRoddy and Ric
and the other wrestlers,
656
00:27:35,066 --> 00:27:37,594
they lived on a planet
\h\h\hthat was theirs.
657
00:27:37,594 --> 00:27:40,759
They were a wild,
wild pair of men,
658
00:27:40,759 --> 00:27:45,264
lots of drinking and hotels
\hgetting damaged and such.
659
00:27:45,264 --> 00:27:46,594
- Next thing I remember,
660
00:27:46,594 --> 00:27:49,132
\h\hI’m in my bed,
my clothes are on,
661
00:27:49,132 --> 00:27:51,363
the door’s knocked off
\h\h\h\h\hthe hinges.
662
00:27:51,363 --> 00:27:52,660
I didn’t know what happened,
663
00:27:52,660 --> 00:27:54,264
but I got the hell
\h\hout of there.
664
00:27:54,264 --> 00:27:56,726
\h\h- You hear things.
You know some things.
665
00:27:56,726 --> 00:27:59,066
\hYou don’t know
a lot of things.
666
00:27:59,066 --> 00:28:02,528
\h\h\h\hRoddy was Roddy,
and that’s what it was.
667
00:28:02,528 --> 00:28:06,726
- We like our kamikazes on ice
and our women on fire.
668
00:28:06,726 --> 00:28:08,198
You understand
what I’m saying?
669
00:28:08,198 --> 00:28:09,660
\h\h\h- A little woman?
- And everywhere we go,
670
00:28:09,660 --> 00:28:15,066
we do it better, longer,
harder than anybody else!
671
00:28:15,627 --> 00:28:17,396
We were the Beatles, man.
672
00:28:17,396 --> 00:28:20,264
\h\hIt was suicidal
putting us together.
673
00:28:20,264 --> 00:28:23,396
Ingesting or drinking,
\h\h\h\h\h\hanything,
674
00:28:23,396 --> 00:28:26,726
Roddy could beat anybody
\h\h\h\h\h\hto the draw.
675
00:28:27,099 --> 00:28:29,000
- It just got way out of hand.
676
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:33,528
This is where Ric Flair started
the, you know, 99 kamikazes.
677
00:28:33,528 --> 00:28:35,330
You know, here I’m, like--
\h\h\h\h\hwhoa, you know?
678
00:28:35,330 --> 00:28:37,396
I’m pretty hard core man.
\h\h\h\hPretty hard core.
679
00:28:37,396 --> 00:28:38,396
I’m drinking mine,
680
00:28:38,396 --> 00:28:40,330
and I’d be the one always
\h\hbe getting in trouble.
681
00:28:40,330 --> 00:28:45,627
- It was a time to make money,
but it was go, go, go, go, go.
682
00:28:45,627 --> 00:28:47,066
And you get three days off,
683
00:28:47,066 --> 00:28:49,660
and then you come back on the
road for another couple weeks.
684
00:28:49,660 --> 00:28:53,000
\hAnd I remember we were
driving in a snowstorm.
685
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,396
\h\hYou know, we had beers
and everything in the car.
686
00:28:55,396 --> 00:28:56,264
So we got out,
687
00:28:56,264 --> 00:28:58,198
and we’re all taking a leak
\h\hon the side of the road.
688
00:28:58,198 --> 00:29:00,363
And all of a sudden,
Roddy ran to the car.
689
00:29:00,363 --> 00:29:02,627
And I remember it’s like
\h\h\h\hwe ran after him,
690
00:29:02,627 --> 00:29:04,099
\h’cause we knew
that Roddy was in
691
00:29:04,099 --> 00:29:05,462
one of those kind of
\h\h\hstates of mind
692
00:29:05,462 --> 00:29:07,726
where he was gonna
\h\h\htake the car.
693
00:29:07,726 --> 00:29:09,000
We pretty much tackled Roddy
694
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:10,660
while he was trying to drive
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hoff in the car.
695
00:29:10,660 --> 00:29:14,132
\h\h\h\h\h- He was a...
a tough guy to handle.
696
00:29:14,132 --> 00:29:16,594
He was a heavy partier.
697
00:29:16,594 --> 00:29:18,396
And I would scoop him up,
698
00:29:18,396 --> 00:29:20,099
and I’d make sure he got
699
00:29:20,099 --> 00:29:21,528
\h\h\hto where he was
supposed to be going.
700
00:29:21,528 --> 00:29:24,495
Got him to his rooms.
Got him to the hotel.
701
00:29:24,495 --> 00:29:26,594
Got him to the airports.
702
00:29:26,594 --> 00:29:30,231
- You go out there and wrestle
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hfor 45 minutes,
703
00:29:30,231 --> 00:29:32,198
and you come back,
\h\htake a shower.
704
00:29:32,198 --> 00:29:34,000
You’re wide frigging awake.
705
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:37,396
\h\h\h\hAnd a lot of times,
I’d look at the coke and...
706
00:29:37,396 --> 00:29:39,264
"Oh, I don’t want to do this."
707
00:29:39,264 --> 00:29:40,594
But you end up doing it.
708
00:29:40,594 --> 00:29:43,495
\h- It was, "I need this
to wake up to wrestle."
709
00:29:43,495 --> 00:29:44,462
"I need this to go to bed,
710
00:29:44,462 --> 00:29:46,264
’cause I work in an hour
and this is all I have."
711
00:29:46,264 --> 00:29:49,396
\h\h\h\h\h- It was also
about to numb the pain,
712
00:29:49,396 --> 00:29:52,231
\h\h\hthe physical pain,
the pain of being alone,
713
00:29:52,231 --> 00:29:54,759
\h\h\h\halways having
to be in transition.
714
00:29:54,759 --> 00:29:57,528
You know, you’re never
\h\h\h\hsitting still.
715
00:29:57,528 --> 00:30:01,132
\h\h- It’s a vicious cycle that
would just go round and round.
716
00:30:01,132 --> 00:30:03,000
It’s easier to go
\h\hhave a drink.
717
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,627
It’s easier to go take a pill
\h\h\h\hor go smoke a joint.
718
00:30:05,627 --> 00:30:07,396
- Back in those days,
719
00:30:07,396 --> 00:30:11,231
\h\h\h\hlike, any injury
could cost you your job.
720
00:30:11,231 --> 00:30:12,264
If you can’t do it,
721
00:30:12,264 --> 00:30:15,264
they replace you a few minutes
\h\hlater with somebody else.
722
00:30:15,264 --> 00:30:17,000
\hYou learn to be
your own doctors.
723
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,363
That’s kind of the sad thing
is, you’re your own doctor.
724
00:30:19,363 --> 00:30:22,396
Roddy was pretty
out of control.
725
00:30:22,396 --> 00:30:25,132
Lord knows what kind
of drugs and alcohol
726
00:30:25,132 --> 00:30:31,363
were being consumed.
727
00:30:31,363 --> 00:30:33,132
[chuckles]
728
00:30:34,627 --> 00:30:36,528
- [laughter]
729
00:30:37,099 --> 00:30:38,660
- Having Roddy travel so often
730
00:30:38,660 --> 00:30:43,495
\h\h\h\hand be gone so much
and having a growing family,
731
00:30:43,495 --> 00:30:45,363
it was very difficult.
732
00:30:45,363 --> 00:30:51,264
\h- When you live like we did,
you know, 3,000 miles a week,
733
00:30:51,264 --> 00:30:54,363
you become desensitized.
734
00:30:54,363 --> 00:30:56,099
- Say merry Christmas.
735
00:30:56,099 --> 00:30:58,330
all: Merry Christmas.
736
00:30:58,330 --> 00:30:59,627
- One thing that Roddy did,
737
00:30:59,627 --> 00:31:04,330
he kept his family completely
\h\h\h\h\hout of the business
738
00:31:04,330 --> 00:31:09,000
\h\h’cause he didn’t want them
to see what he went through.
739
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:10,198
He wanted them to grow up
740
00:31:10,198 --> 00:31:12,132
\h\h\hand be beautiful
and healthy and happy,
741
00:31:12,132 --> 00:31:16,462
\h\h\hand I think he took
too much of it on himself.
742
00:31:16,462 --> 00:31:17,528
♪ ♪
743
00:31:17,528 --> 00:31:20,462
\h\h\h\h\h- Sometimes when Rod
would come home from the road,
744
00:31:20,462 --> 00:31:21,594
he wouldn’t come
\hstraight home.
745
00:31:21,594 --> 00:31:25,660
\h\h\h\h\hHe would check into a
hotel room and just get rested
746
00:31:25,660 --> 00:31:28,396
because when he got home,
\h\h\h\hhe couldn’t rest.
747
00:31:28,396 --> 00:31:30,660
I’d like to know
\hwhere mine is.
748
00:31:30,660 --> 00:31:33,000
\h\h\h- [laughs]
To Barnacle Bill.
749
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:33,594
♪ ♪
750
00:31:33,594 --> 00:31:35,660
- He almost had to do
a transition mentally
751
00:31:35,660 --> 00:31:37,264
when he came from
the road to home,
752
00:31:37,264 --> 00:31:39,660
\h\h\hbecause he didn’t want
to bring that character home.
753
00:31:39,660 --> 00:31:42,396
He had such a hot temper
\h\h\h\h\h\h\has Hot Rod.
754
00:31:42,396 --> 00:31:43,528
And he had to,
755
00:31:43,528 --> 00:31:46,000
because he had to be
\h\h\hon guard a lot.
756
00:31:46,396 --> 00:31:47,726
It was very separate.
757
00:31:47,726 --> 00:31:52,231
He didn’t like to take us
\h\h\hto a lot of events.
758
00:31:52,231 --> 00:31:55,000
We were very concerned
\h\h\h\h\habout safety
759
00:31:55,000 --> 00:32:00,264
because of how much aggression
\h\hwas being put towards Rod.
760
00:32:00,264 --> 00:32:02,528
[crowd cheering]
761
00:32:02,528 --> 00:32:04,594
- He had been a villain
\h\h\hin the Deep South
762
00:32:04,594 --> 00:32:07,396
and fighting fans
\h\hand, you know,
763
00:32:07,396 --> 00:32:08,594
getting assault charges.
764
00:32:08,594 --> 00:32:10,132
I mean, I can think
of a few situations
765
00:32:10,132 --> 00:32:12,726
\h\h\h\hwith Roddy with fans
trying to run us off the road
766
00:32:12,726 --> 00:32:15,495
and chasing us in cities
\h\h\h\h\h\hlike Detroit.
767
00:32:15,495 --> 00:32:18,528
\h\h- People would throw
thumbtacks in the ring,
768
00:32:18,528 --> 00:32:20,132
hit with beer bottles.
769
00:32:20,132 --> 00:32:21,198
In Asheville, North Carolina,
770
00:32:21,198 --> 00:32:23,495
they threw a rattlesnake
\hin the ring one night.
771
00:32:23,495 --> 00:32:26,000
Guy ran down to the ringside
\h\h\h\h\h\hwith a gunnysack
772
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:27,132
and threw a rattlesnake.
773
00:32:27,132 --> 00:32:28,528
\h[bell dings]
[crowd booing]
774
00:32:28,528 --> 00:32:31,264
\h\h\h- There was a lot
of crazy fans back then,
775
00:32:31,264 --> 00:32:34,495
and being a bad guy could be
\h\ha very dangerous living.
776
00:32:34,495 --> 00:32:36,528
- ’Cause I’m going to shove it
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hdown your throat!
777
00:32:36,528 --> 00:32:38,528
- There’s certainly times
\h\h\h\hwhen I’d seen him
778
00:32:38,528 --> 00:32:40,132
say or do something on TV
\h\h\h\h\hwhere I’m like,
779
00:32:40,132 --> 00:32:42,132
\h\h\h\h"Oh, my gosh,
we’re in for it now.
780
00:32:42,132 --> 00:32:44,528
This is gonna get worse
before it gets better."
781
00:32:44,528 --> 00:32:49,726
\h\hBut I never asked him
to curtail or tone it down
782
00:32:49,726 --> 00:32:53,495
because that would hinder
\h\h\h\h\hhis creativity.
783
00:32:53,495 --> 00:32:57,396
- People wanted to kill me.
784
00:32:57,396 --> 00:32:59,396
- I remember there was
\h\h\h\h\ha gentleman.
785
00:32:59,396 --> 00:33:01,132
I wasn’t really paying
\h\h\hmuch attention,
786
00:33:01,132 --> 00:33:05,132
but Roddy went taking off
\h\h\h\hdown this hallway.
787
00:33:05,132 --> 00:33:09,627
\h\h\h\hAnd the next thing,
I see them having some words
788
00:33:09,627 --> 00:33:12,660
\h\h\hand the police
got involved in it.
789
00:33:12,660 --> 00:33:17,132
\h\hHe did have a big knife,
you know, like a Bowie knife.
790
00:33:17,132 --> 00:33:21,099
So finally the officer said,
\h"Mr. Piper, we’ve got him.
791
00:33:21,099 --> 00:33:21,660
He’s going to jail."
792
00:33:21,660 --> 00:33:26,099
He said, "Well, I just wanted to
have a couple seconds with him."
793
00:33:26,099 --> 00:33:27,231
The officer said, "Why?"
794
00:33:27,231 --> 00:33:29,627
\h\h\h\h\h\hAnd he said,
"Because he stabbed me."
795
00:33:29,627 --> 00:33:32,264
And Roddy took his thumb
\h\h\h\hoff of his chest,
796
00:33:32,264 --> 00:33:37,099
and the blood started squirting
\h\h\h\h\hin the officer’s face
797
00:33:37,099 --> 00:33:38,264
at every heartbeat.
798
00:33:38,264 --> 00:33:41,528
- It was going tsst-tsst,
\h\h\h\h\h\h\htsst-tsst.
799
00:33:41,528 --> 00:33:42,528
- And I went, "Oh!"
800
00:33:42,528 --> 00:33:44,330
\h- Sergeant Slaughter
took me to the hospital
801
00:33:44,330 --> 00:33:46,660
and held the...
held the wound.
802
00:33:46,660 --> 00:33:48,132
\h\h\h\h- Doctor said,
"If that would’ve went
803
00:33:48,132 --> 00:33:53,528
one more 1/2 inch or less,
\h\h\h\h\h\hyou’d be dead."
804
00:33:53,528 --> 00:33:55,132
- So what was it like?
805
00:33:55,132 --> 00:33:56,231
It was a living hell.
806
00:33:56,231 --> 00:34:00,330
\h- It wasn’t just, "You’re a
bad guy on TV," and that’s it.
807
00:34:00,330 --> 00:34:01,495
It followed you everywhere.
808
00:34:01,495 --> 00:34:03,528
Dad was stabbed three times
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hin his life.
809
00:34:03,528 --> 00:34:05,363
Three times they actually
\h\h\h\h\h\hstabbed him,
810
00:34:05,363 --> 00:34:07,132
\h\h\h\h\hto the point where
he had a leather jacket
811
00:34:07,132 --> 00:34:10,099
that was Kevlar-lined
and it was stab-proof
812
00:34:10,099 --> 00:34:11,627
because he had been stabbed
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hso many times.
813
00:34:11,627 --> 00:34:19,231
\h- He was the next generation
to take it to the next level.
814
00:34:19,528 --> 00:34:23,000
- What a tremendous match
\h\h\h\h\h\hto have live.
815
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:24,264
Millions of fans everywhere
816
00:34:24,264 --> 00:34:27,132
\h\hcan see Greg Valentine and
Roddy Piper go at each other.
817
00:34:27,132 --> 00:34:33,000
- Me and Piper started out
a long, long, long journey.
818
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:36,660
We’d probably wrestled
each other for a year.
819
00:34:36,660 --> 00:34:38,396
[crowd cheering]
820
00:34:38,396 --> 00:34:40,396
We just walloped each other.
821
00:34:40,396 --> 00:34:43,132
♪ ♪
822
00:34:43,132 --> 00:34:49,198
I took Piper’s head and rammed
\h\h\h\hit into the turnbuckle.
823
00:34:49,198 --> 00:34:50,495
♪ ♪
824
00:34:50,495 --> 00:34:52,759
Every time I’d go out there,
825
00:34:52,759 --> 00:34:54,660
I’d beat on his ear.
826
00:34:54,660 --> 00:34:56,264
♪ ♪
827
00:34:56,264 --> 00:34:57,264
Blam!
828
00:34:57,264 --> 00:34:58,231
♪ ♪
829
00:34:58,231 --> 00:35:02,264
So I end up naming it
\hthe Year of the Ear.
830
00:35:02,264 --> 00:35:03,594
- Watch him go to that ear.
831
00:35:03,594 --> 00:35:08,000
- And I’d laugh, "Ha, ha, ha,
\h\h\h\hthe Year of the Ear."
832
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:09,330
♪ ♪
833
00:35:09,330 --> 00:35:14,528
And then finally they want
\h\hto blow it off, end it.
834
00:35:14,528 --> 00:35:15,363
♪ ♪
835
00:35:15,363 --> 00:35:16,528
- What happened was
836
00:35:16,528 --> 00:35:19,066
\hBruno Sammartino
and Larry Zbyszko
837
00:35:19,066 --> 00:35:21,231
did $500,000 in Shea Stadium,
838
00:35:21,231 --> 00:35:25,627
\h\h\hso it became a war of
the North against the South,
839
00:35:25,627 --> 00:35:27,000
so the South said,
\h\h\h\h"All right,
840
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,264
\h\h\h\h\hwe’re gonna put on
the first pay-per-view ever."
841
00:35:29,264 --> 00:35:31,000
So they come to me
\h\hand they said,
842
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,660
"I want you to make up
\h\h\h\h\hthe meanest,
843
00:35:33,660 --> 00:35:38,660
nastiest, most brutal match
you can possibly think of."
844
00:35:38,660 --> 00:35:41,660
\h- And Piper came up
with this dog collar.
845
00:35:41,660 --> 00:35:45,363
\h\h\h- 40 pounds of chain.
I want you to check it out.
846
00:35:45,363 --> 00:35:46,495
You’re gonna see something
847
00:35:46,495 --> 00:35:48,396
\h\h\hyou never seen
in your life before.
848
00:35:48,396 --> 00:35:51,132
- Well, it was a great idea.
\h\h\h\h\hIt was my birthday.
849
00:35:51,132 --> 00:35:53,396
\hOh, what is this?
This is beautiful.
850
00:35:53,396 --> 00:35:55,000
\hThey presented me
with this big cake.
851
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,264
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hI love cake.
Wait a minute, what is this?
852
00:35:57,264 --> 00:36:01,132
I look at it and I see
\hsome steel in there,
853
00:36:01,132 --> 00:36:05,132
\h\h\h\h\hand I reached down
and pulled out a dog collar.
854
00:36:05,132 --> 00:36:07,132
What? What are you doing?
855
00:36:07,132 --> 00:36:08,627
What are you trying
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hto do to me?
856
00:36:08,627 --> 00:36:12,198
\h\hHe wants to have
a dog collar match.
857
00:36:12,198 --> 00:36:15,528
Piper was the best,
the best performer.
858
00:36:15,528 --> 00:36:19,132
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hGood at the mic.
Probably number one at the mic.
859
00:36:19,132 --> 00:36:22,099
Some people said he sounded
\h\h\h\h\hlike Daffy Duck.
860
00:36:22,099 --> 00:36:24,264
I love Daffy Duck.
\h\h\h\h\h[laughs]
861
00:36:24,264 --> 00:36:26,132
- You’re talking about
\h\h\h\h\hthe biggest thing
862
00:36:26,132 --> 00:36:29,000
\h\h\h\hthat’s ever gonna happen
in the history of wrestling.
863
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:30,132
\h\h\h\h\h[bell dings]
- Ladies and gentlemen,
864
00:36:30,132 --> 00:36:34,132
our next event of the evening
\h\his a very special match.
865
00:36:34,132 --> 00:36:36,396
This is a collar match.
866
00:36:36,396 --> 00:36:38,660
- It was the very first
\h\h\h\h\h\hpay-per-view
867
00:36:38,660 --> 00:36:41,000
ever for wrestling.
868
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:41,627
[bell dings]
869
00:36:41,627 --> 00:36:45,594
\h- Two men linked together
like this in mortal combat.
870
00:36:45,594 --> 00:36:47,099
- This is a strategy.
871
00:36:47,099 --> 00:36:49,000
This is what Piper
talked to me about.
872
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,594
And then, see, I’m the first
\h\h\h\h\hone to get nailed.
873
00:36:51,594 --> 00:36:54,396
- Used exactly as a whip
as we had talked about.
874
00:36:54,396 --> 00:36:57,132
- You could use it
to batter the guy.
875
00:36:57,132 --> 00:37:00,528
\h\hNow he’s gonna get me
in the teeth right there.
876
00:37:00,528 --> 00:37:03,066
I had to go to the dentist
\h\h\h\h\h\hthe next day.
877
00:37:03,066 --> 00:37:04,264
- You can see the concern
878
00:37:04,264 --> 00:37:05,726
\h\h\hof the people
watching this match.
879
00:37:05,726 --> 00:37:07,528
They really don’t know
\h\h\h\hwhat to expect
880
00:37:07,528 --> 00:37:09,660
when two men are going at it
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hlike this.
881
00:37:09,660 --> 00:37:11,198
- Now I’m going for the ear.
882
00:37:11,198 --> 00:37:14,066
- Look at Valentine
pounding on him now.
883
00:37:14,066 --> 00:37:15,363
♪ ♪
884
00:37:15,363 --> 00:37:17,231
- It was a ridiculously
\h\h\h\h\h\hhard match.
885
00:37:17,231 --> 00:37:20,330
\hIt was the toughest match,
probably, I’ve ever been in,
886
00:37:20,330 --> 00:37:22,198
especially with Valentine.
887
00:37:22,198 --> 00:37:23,264
- Used as a whip.
888
00:37:23,264 --> 00:37:24,660
Valentine on his knees.
889
00:37:24,660 --> 00:37:26,363
Hard blow to the top
\h\h\h\hof the head.
890
00:37:26,363 --> 00:37:30,132
- No, I’m not just selling;
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hI’m hurt.
891
00:37:30,132 --> 00:37:32,264
\h\h\h\h\hBut it’s all
for you wrestling fans.
892
00:37:32,264 --> 00:37:36,396
Giving you our love
\hin a strange way.
893
00:37:36,396 --> 00:37:38,528
[laughs]
894
00:37:38,528 --> 00:37:39,528
♪ ♪
895
00:37:39,528 --> 00:37:41,528
This is the end of it,
\h\h\h\h\hright there.
896
00:37:41,528 --> 00:37:43,132
He hog-tied me.
897
00:37:43,132 --> 00:37:44,396
- He got the count.
898
00:37:44,396 --> 00:37:48,000
- I think he was the greatest
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hof all time...
899
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:49,066
♪ ♪
900
00:37:49,066 --> 00:37:51,660
A really good-hearted guy
901
00:37:51,660 --> 00:37:55,099
but a really tough
\hson of a bitch.
902
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:56,660
- Valentine, you say--
903
00:37:56,660 --> 00:38:00,000
\h\h\h\h\h\hyou say your strategy
was to take away all my hearing.
904
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:04,000
You see, what you forgot is,
\hyou got one more ear to go.
905
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,363
♪ ♪
906
00:38:06,363 --> 00:38:10,627
- When you look for, you know,
\h\h\hattributes of a bad guy,
907
00:38:10,627 --> 00:38:13,462
you have to be fearless;
908
00:38:13,462 --> 00:38:15,396
you have to have
the gift of gab;
909
00:38:15,396 --> 00:38:18,396
you can say anything
\h\h\hthat you want,
910
00:38:18,396 --> 00:38:20,231
\h\h\h\heven though you know
it’s gonna be controversial;
911
00:38:20,231 --> 00:38:22,528
\h\h\h\hyou have to be able to
communicate with the audience;
912
00:38:22,528 --> 00:38:26,528
and you have to a certain
\h\h\hattitude about you.
913
00:38:26,528 --> 00:38:30,528
And Roddy had all those
\h\h\hattributes and more.
914
00:38:30,528 --> 00:38:31,363
♪ ♪
915
00:38:31,363 --> 00:38:36,000
\h\h- Vince McMahon has these
plans of expanding nationally.
916
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:39,099
What’s the best way to expand
\h\h\hall over North America?
917
00:38:39,099 --> 00:38:43,528
\h\hYou get the best wrestlers
from the individual territories
918
00:38:43,528 --> 00:38:47,396
and you bring them all to WWE.
919
00:38:47,396 --> 00:38:49,000
And Vince McMahon
\h\hwants it all.
920
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:53,660
\h\h- I got a call from Roddy.
He says, "Mr. McMahon called."
921
00:38:53,660 --> 00:38:55,594
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hI said,
"Yeah, are you coming up?"
922
00:38:55,594 --> 00:38:57,264
He goes, "Yeah, he wants me
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hto come up."
923
00:38:57,264 --> 00:38:58,528
I said, "Come on up."
924
00:38:58,528 --> 00:39:04,660
\hRoddy was coming
to New York City.
925
00:39:04,660 --> 00:39:07,759
\h\h- Let me tell you
how to be Roddy Piper.
926
00:39:07,759 --> 00:39:10,264
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h[laughs]
Have a nice [bleep] day.
927
00:39:10,264 --> 00:39:11,132
Go [bleep] yourself.
928
00:39:11,132 --> 00:39:13,132
\h\h\hGimme the microphone
and get out of the way.
929
00:39:13,132 --> 00:39:16,396
Bowlegged, big, fat,
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hugly penguin.
930
00:39:16,396 --> 00:39:19,000
You know what?
You both stink!
931
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:20,132
It’s as simple as this:
932
00:39:20,132 --> 00:39:23,726
when RP talks, brother,
people listen.
933
00:39:24,066 --> 00:39:27,000
- And New York,
934
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,396
New York is big guys,
935
00:39:29,396 --> 00:39:33,198
at least 250-pounders,
\h\h\h6-foot whatever.
936
00:39:33,198 --> 00:39:34,495
That’s what I was.
937
00:39:34,495 --> 00:39:36,132
You know, Piper, later on,
938
00:39:36,132 --> 00:39:37,396
I guess he gained weight.
939
00:39:37,396 --> 00:39:39,660
But when he first came in,
\h\h\h\h\hhe was smaller.
940
00:39:39,660 --> 00:39:42,066
\h\h\h\h\h\h- So if Roddy’s not
the greatest physical specimen
941
00:39:42,066 --> 00:39:43,396
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hin the world,
then don’t let him do that.
942
00:39:43,396 --> 00:39:48,198
\h\hDo what Roddy does best.
Let him be a talk show host.
943
00:39:48,198 --> 00:39:49,660
\h\h\h\hIn a moment,
ladies and gentlemen,
944
00:39:49,660 --> 00:39:51,396
we’re going to take you
\h\h\hto "Piper’s Pit,"
945
00:39:51,396 --> 00:39:53,264
\h\hinvolving, of course,
the rather controversial
946
00:39:53,264 --> 00:39:56,627
and certainly opinionated
\h\h\h\h\h\hRoddy Piper.
947
00:39:56,627 --> 00:39:58,594
- They put up a backdrop,
948
00:39:58,594 --> 00:40:01,528
and it was basically
a wrestling talk show
949
00:40:01,528 --> 00:40:02,330
to stir the pot.
950
00:40:02,330 --> 00:40:04,330
- You’re a lousy wrestler.
It’s a simple as that.
951
00:40:04,330 --> 00:40:07,000
- I might be a lousy wrestler,
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hbut I’m still in there,
952
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,528
and I’m not afraid
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hof nobody--
953
00:40:10,330 --> 00:40:12,000
- It was "The Tonight Show"
954
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:15,264
where the host could end up
\h\h\hbeating up the guest.
955
00:40:15,264 --> 00:40:19,000
\h\h\h\hIt was just the most
off-the-walls, unpredictable,
956
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:22,231
amazing idea that ever happened
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hin television,
957
00:40:22,231 --> 00:40:24,660
\h\h\h\h\hin my opinion.
I’m biased, but whatever.
958
00:40:24,660 --> 00:40:25,495
[laughs]
959
00:40:25,495 --> 00:40:27,726
- Is he supposed
\h\h\h\hto scare me?
960
00:40:27,726 --> 00:40:29,660
- You had to be ready.
961
00:40:29,660 --> 00:40:30,726
He was witty, smart.
962
00:40:30,726 --> 00:40:32,462
He was like the fastest gun
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hin the West.
963
00:40:32,462 --> 00:40:33,627
- Hello, peasants.
964
00:40:33,627 --> 00:40:35,528
- Don’t call my father stupid.
965
00:40:35,528 --> 00:40:36,528
- Wait, wait, wait...
966
00:40:36,528 --> 00:40:37,627
How you doing, fatso?
967
00:40:37,627 --> 00:40:40,495
- He could take some guys
\h\h\h\hand make them look
968
00:40:40,495 --> 00:40:41,627
like heroes and superstars,
969
00:40:41,627 --> 00:40:44,132
or he could kind of like,
\h\h\h\hif he wanted to,
970
00:40:44,132 --> 00:40:46,627
he could chop you down to size
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hpretty quick.
971
00:40:46,627 --> 00:40:49,099
- I could slam you myself!
I don’t care.
972
00:40:49,099 --> 00:40:52,330
You’re saying John Studd
did at 520...
973
00:40:53,099 --> 00:40:56,363
[crowd cheering]
974
00:40:56,363 --> 00:40:57,660
- The most famous one,
\h\h\h\h\h\hof course,
975
00:40:57,660 --> 00:40:59,396
is the interview
with Jimmy Snuka.
976
00:40:59,396 --> 00:41:00,594
- There you go.
977
00:41:00,594 --> 00:41:02,528
- There were a couple
\h\h\h\h\hof coconuts,
978
00:41:02,528 --> 00:41:06,363
and one of them, you know, had
been what we call "gimmicked,"
979
00:41:06,363 --> 00:41:09,132
but that’s not the one
\h\h\h\h\hRoddy chose.
980
00:41:09,132 --> 00:41:10,396
- Am I making fun of you?
981
00:41:10,396 --> 00:41:12,264
No, sir, no, sir.
982
00:41:17,594 --> 00:41:20,132
[indistinct shouting]
983
00:41:20,231 --> 00:41:22,528
- Nothing was scripted
\h\hon "Piper’s Pit."
984
00:41:22,528 --> 00:41:23,495
- There, you sucker!
985
00:41:23,495 --> 00:41:25,264
- It was all off of the top
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hof Dad’s head
986
00:41:25,264 --> 00:41:27,660
\hor something that he’d maybe
written down in a note before.
987
00:41:27,660 --> 00:41:29,396
\hAnd that’s where
the magic happens.
988
00:41:29,396 --> 00:41:32,660
- Just when they think
\hthey got the answers,
989
00:41:32,660 --> 00:41:34,330
I change the questions.
990
00:41:34,330 --> 00:41:37,066
- He wasn’t famous
for his technique
991
00:41:37,066 --> 00:41:39,528
or his type of wrestling
or how big his arms were
992
00:41:39,528 --> 00:41:40,759
or anything like that.
993
00:41:40,759 --> 00:41:42,198
\h\h\h\h\hHe was just
an incredible talker
994
00:41:42,198 --> 00:41:44,000
and a guy that was taking
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hwrestling
995
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:45,132
and telling a different story.
996
00:41:45,132 --> 00:41:50,198
\h\h- You do not throw rocks at
a man who’s got a machine gun!
997
00:41:51,231 --> 00:41:53,660
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h[Cyndi Lauper’s
"Girls Just Want to Have Fun"]
998
00:41:53,660 --> 00:41:55,132
- Ladies and gentlemen,
999
00:41:55,132 --> 00:41:56,594
I want to introduce to you
1000
00:41:56,594 --> 00:41:59,264
the female entertainer
\h\h\h\h\hof the year,
1001
00:41:59,264 --> 00:42:00,330
Miss Cyndi Lauper!
1002
00:42:00,330 --> 00:42:02,594
[crowd cheers]
\h\h\h[laughs]
1003
00:42:02,594 --> 00:42:05,132
- Wrestling began
to work with MTV,
1004
00:42:05,132 --> 00:42:08,132
which was absolutely
\h\h\h\h\h\hred-hot.
1005
00:42:08,132 --> 00:42:09,396
- You look wonderful, Cyndi.
1006
00:42:09,396 --> 00:42:13,660
\h\h\h\h\h- Captain Lou Albano
and Cyndi Lauper were friends,
1007
00:42:13,660 --> 00:42:16,594
\hand Cyndi Lauper
had put Lou Albano
1008
00:42:16,594 --> 00:42:19,132
in her "Girls Want to Have Fun"
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hvideo.
1009
00:42:19,132 --> 00:42:22,000
\h- I said, "Vince, I got
this guy named Dave Wolff
1010
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:23,363
"that manages Cyndi Lauper,
1011
00:42:23,363 --> 00:42:25,066
"and they just did a video
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hwith Albano
1012
00:42:25,066 --> 00:42:27,495
but now they wanna get involved
\h\hin the wrestling business."
1013
00:42:27,495 --> 00:42:28,660
And Vince was like, "Hmm, hmm."
1014
00:42:28,660 --> 00:42:31,660
\h\h- Dave thought it was going
to be good for Cyndi’s career.
1015
00:42:31,660 --> 00:42:33,660
You know, here she’s doing
\h\h\h\h\h\hthis crossover
1016
00:42:33,660 --> 00:42:36,198
in this very unusual world.
1017
00:42:36,198 --> 00:42:38,462
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hIt’s like,
"What the hell is this?"
1018
00:42:38,462 --> 00:42:42,627
- Would you please welcome
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hCyndi Lauper!
1019
00:42:42,627 --> 00:42:44,066
[crowd cheering]
1020
00:42:44,066 --> 00:42:50,528
\h- So now there’s all this
attention, suddenly, to WWE.
1021
00:42:50,528 --> 00:42:52,132
People who were fashionable,
1022
00:42:52,132 --> 00:42:55,462
\h\h\hpeople who were in
the rock and roll world,
1023
00:42:55,462 --> 00:42:58,330
they’re gonna start
\h\h\hwatching WWE.
1024
00:42:58,330 --> 00:43:01,594
So they had this ceremony
in Madison Square Garden.
1025
00:43:01,594 --> 00:43:06,528
\h\hLou Albano was one
of the primary forces
1026
00:43:06,528 --> 00:43:10,066
\h\h\h\h\hresponsible for the
Rock ’n’ Wrestling Connection,
1027
00:43:10,066 --> 00:43:13,132
and what better way
\h\h\hto honor a man
1028
00:43:13,132 --> 00:43:15,198
but to give him
\ha gold record?
1029
00:43:15,198 --> 00:43:18,000
\h\h\h- I’m so grateful
to receive this award.
1030
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:20,264
\h\h\h- Now that’s going
to provoke some jealousy,
1031
00:43:20,264 --> 00:43:24,000
and who is the most jealous
\h\h\h\h\hperformer of all?
1032
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:25,363
- There is Roddy Piper.
1033
00:43:25,363 --> 00:43:26,660
- This is beautiful, Cyndi.
1034
00:43:26,660 --> 00:43:29,462
- Maybe they have some kind
\h\hof presentation to make.
1035
00:43:29,462 --> 00:43:32,198
- I want to present you
\h\h\h\h\h\hwith this.
1036
00:43:33,264 --> 00:43:35,132
- Oh! Look out!
1037
00:43:36,066 --> 00:43:38,000
Captain Lou Albano
\h\h\h\hclobbered!
1038
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:44,660
\h- Roddy Piper shockingly kicks
the biggest pop star in America,
1039
00:43:44,660 --> 00:43:47,660
a female pop star,
\h\h\hin the head.
1040
00:43:47,660 --> 00:43:50,528
\h- David Wolff trying
to come to the rescue,
1041
00:43:50,528 --> 00:43:52,132
but he’s no match!
1042
00:43:52,132 --> 00:43:55,231
\h\h\hOh, he pile-drived him
right down into the canvas.
1043
00:43:55,231 --> 00:43:58,528
\h\h- 20 minutes before
the match, I was asked,
1044
00:43:58,528 --> 00:44:02,198
\h\h"Do you think you can kick
Cyndi Lauper and not hurt her?"
1045
00:44:02,198 --> 00:44:03,396
by her manager.
1046
00:44:03,396 --> 00:44:07,132
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hI’m thinking,
"I hope you never manage me."
1047
00:44:07,132 --> 00:44:08,000
You know?
1048
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:11,066
But when they saw that,
1049
00:44:11,066 --> 00:44:15,330
uh, Saddam Hussein
got nothing on me.
1050
00:44:15,330 --> 00:44:16,330
- Look out!
1051
00:44:16,330 --> 00:44:19,231
\h\hThe Hulkster’s
hitting the ring!
1052
00:44:19,231 --> 00:44:20,528
- Cyndi wasn’t a wrestler,
1053
00:44:20,528 --> 00:44:22,462
so she had to have somebody
\h\h\h\h\hdefend her honor.
1054
00:44:22,462 --> 00:44:25,528
- He knew what he was doing.
He was stirring up the crowd
1055
00:44:25,528 --> 00:44:27,396
\h\hand he knew it
and he loved it.
1056
00:44:27,396 --> 00:44:28,495
All heels do.
1057
00:44:28,495 --> 00:44:31,264
- What a disgraceful display.
1058
00:44:31,264 --> 00:44:33,495
Cyndi, look at her.
1059
00:44:33,495 --> 00:44:35,330
Tears running down her face.
1060
00:44:35,330 --> 00:44:37,099
Hulkster’s hot.
Everybody’s hot.
1061
00:44:37,099 --> 00:44:41,660
\hBoy, he wishes he could have
got his hands on Roddy Piper.
1062
00:44:41,660 --> 00:44:43,363
- Every dog has its day,
1063
00:44:43,363 --> 00:44:44,627
you know what I’m talking
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\habout?
1064
00:44:44,627 --> 00:44:46,198
And that one’s
gonna get his.
1065
00:44:46,198 --> 00:44:49,231
- She expects me to sit there
\h\hand do nothing about her,
1066
00:44:49,231 --> 00:44:51,132
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hso I kick her
12 yards across the field.
1067
00:44:51,132 --> 00:44:52,660
- But she’s a woman.
\h\h\h\h\h\hShe’s a woman.
1068
00:44:52,660 --> 00:44:53,660
- Just imagine it.
1069
00:44:53,660 --> 00:44:55,528
In about a four-month period,
1070
00:44:55,528 --> 00:44:58,528
I had the kicked Cyndi Lauper
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hin the head.
1071
00:44:58,528 --> 00:45:01,396
I don’t know how many guys
\h\hon Piper’s Pit I had,
1072
00:45:01,396 --> 00:45:04,495
\h\h\h\hwhatever I had done,
all in this very short time.
1073
00:45:04,495 --> 00:45:07,759
\h\hIt was getting
really heated up.
1074
00:45:07,759 --> 00:45:10,528
I couldn’t go anyplace.
\h\h\h\hI was fighting.
1075
00:45:10,528 --> 00:45:11,594
I had a family.
1076
00:45:11,594 --> 00:45:14,132
\h\h\h\hI was fighting
in and out of Denny’s.
1077
00:45:14,132 --> 00:45:15,396
It was crazy.
1078
00:45:15,396 --> 00:45:19,528
\h\h\h\h\h\h- Roddy understood
that bringing in the musicians
1079
00:45:19,528 --> 00:45:21,231
brings it to a whole
\h\h\hnother level,
1080
00:45:21,231 --> 00:45:22,396
so he was onboard for that.
1081
00:45:22,396 --> 00:45:25,000
- All right, let me just
step out this way a tad.
1082
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:28,495
- But he found it very hard
being the old-school person,
1083
00:45:28,495 --> 00:45:33,000
and he tried best he could
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hto cooperate.
1084
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:34,198
It was never easy.
1085
00:45:34,198 --> 00:45:37,132
- And the last one
\his, "MTV stinks"?
1086
00:45:37,132 --> 00:45:39,396
- Once we got hooked up
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hwith MTV,
1087
00:45:39,396 --> 00:45:41,627
it took us to mainstream.
1088
00:45:41,627 --> 00:45:43,264
- MTV...
1089
00:45:43,264 --> 00:45:45,000
[laughs]
1090
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,726
Music To Vomit by.
1091
00:45:47,726 --> 00:45:50,132
\h\h\h\h\h\h- Tonight,
ladies and gentlemen,
1092
00:45:50,132 --> 00:45:52,363
the War to Settle the Score,
1093
00:45:52,363 --> 00:45:53,726
the hottest ticket in town.
1094
00:45:53,726 --> 00:45:55,528
- The Rock ’n’ Wrestling
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hConnection
1095
00:45:55,528 --> 00:45:59,099
helped us change the look
\h\h\h\h\hof the business
1096
00:45:59,099 --> 00:46:02,495
to where we get families
\hand kids at ringside.
1097
00:46:02,495 --> 00:46:05,198
- This is broadcast on MTV.
1098
00:46:05,198 --> 00:46:07,264
This is big time.
1099
00:46:07,264 --> 00:46:10,264
\h- Everybody wants
to be a part of it.
1100
00:46:10,264 --> 00:46:11,660
Well, there’s something
\h\h\h\hgoing on here.
1101
00:46:11,660 --> 00:46:14,594
I got to see what it is.
\hI got to check it out.
1102
00:46:14,594 --> 00:46:17,462
\h\h\h\h\h- Piper was
the ultimate villain,
1103
00:46:17,462 --> 00:46:19,660
\hso you want to have
the ultimate villain
1104
00:46:19,660 --> 00:46:21,759
against the ultimate hero.
1105
00:46:21,759 --> 00:46:23,396
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- It was
the biggest thing ever.
1106
00:46:23,396 --> 00:46:26,264
It was Hogan and Piper
\h\h\h\h\hgoing at it.
1107
00:46:26,264 --> 00:46:28,000
- We have got action.
1108
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:31,000
Oh! They’re at it!
\h\h[bell dings]
1109
00:46:31,660 --> 00:46:33,000
It’s under way.
1110
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:34,330
\hLook at this,
back and forth.
1111
00:46:34,330 --> 00:46:36,528
Oh, raking the eyes
\h\hof Roddy Piper.
1112
00:46:36,528 --> 00:46:37,495
- When I ran into Piper,
1113
00:46:37,495 --> 00:46:39,726
\hhe’s the one that made
everything else possible.
1114
00:46:39,726 --> 00:46:43,396
\h\h\h\h- Oh! Dropped
the big elbow on him.
1115
00:46:43,396 --> 00:46:45,000
- I had to have an opponent,
1116
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:48,363
\h\hand nobody had the air,
the arrogance, the attitude
1117
00:46:48,363 --> 00:46:51,066
to go to toe-to-toe with me
\h\h\h\hand not back down.
1118
00:46:51,066 --> 00:46:52,594
\h\h\hWithout Piper,
we could have never,
1119
00:46:52,594 --> 00:46:54,627
\h\h\h\hnever launched
into the stratosphere.
1120
00:46:54,627 --> 00:46:56,132
- Oh!
1121
00:46:56,132 --> 00:46:58,660
- Piper has two confederates:
1122
00:46:58,660 --> 00:47:03,132
\h\hCowboy Bob Orton, Jr., and
Paul "Mr. Wonderful" Orndorff.
1123
00:47:03,132 --> 00:47:05,000
- Orndorff going up
\h\hto the top rope!
1124
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,627
- Oh, please.
\h- Look out!
1125
00:47:07,627 --> 00:47:09,198
- They interfere in the match.
1126
00:47:09,198 --> 00:47:11,000
\h- Cyndi Lauper
up on the apron.
1127
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:14,264
Orndorff going around the side
\h\hrope now at Cyndi Lauper.
1128
00:47:14,264 --> 00:47:16,000
- What? Wait a minute.
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hHold on!
1129
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:18,066
- Mr. T over the railing!
1130
00:47:18,066 --> 00:47:18,660
- Oh, no!
1131
00:47:18,660 --> 00:47:21,627
\h\h- Here comes Mr. T,
ladies and gentlemen...
1132
00:47:21,627 --> 00:47:23,000
- Who was going
to save the day?
1133
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:28,066
Well, Mr. T, the biggest TV star
in the United States.
1134
00:47:28,066 --> 00:47:32,132
Everybody in the country
\h\h\h\h\h\hknows Mr. T.
1135
00:47:32,132 --> 00:47:34,528
- They’re inviting him
\h\h\hinside the ring.
1136
00:47:34,528 --> 00:47:36,000
- And so insert Mr. T.
1137
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:39,330
\h\h\h\h\hIt was Vince’s way
to interject entertainment.
1138
00:47:39,330 --> 00:47:41,264
It was nothing but excitement
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hand electricity
1139
00:47:41,264 --> 00:47:42,594
and it sure worked.
1140
00:47:42,594 --> 00:47:43,726
- I don’t know anything
1141
00:47:43,726 --> 00:47:45,264
about his background
\h\has a wrestler...
1142
00:47:45,264 --> 00:47:46,396
- I used to be a bodyguard.
1143
00:47:46,396 --> 00:47:48,066
I used to be a bouncer
\h\h\h\h\h\hat a disco
1144
00:47:48,066 --> 00:47:48,759
and all that stuff.
1145
00:47:48,759 --> 00:47:51,660
\h\hYou know, now, I knew
how to wrestle, you know,
1146
00:47:51,660 --> 00:47:53,099
and I wasn’t no fluff.
1147
00:47:53,099 --> 00:47:56,726
\hSo I stepped into the ring,
and Piper snuck up behind me.
1148
00:47:56,726 --> 00:47:58,198
- Piper nailed him
\h\h\hfrom behind.
1149
00:47:58,198 --> 00:47:59,726
- I didn’t think it would
\h\h\h\hgo down like that.
1150
00:47:59,726 --> 00:48:01,330
If I’d knew it’d go down
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hlike that,
1151
00:48:01,330 --> 00:48:03,264
I would’ve have did
\h\hsomething else.
1152
00:48:03,264 --> 00:48:04,396
So therefore I was so...
1153
00:48:04,396 --> 00:48:05,660
I guess I can say pissed.
1154
00:48:05,660 --> 00:48:07,462
- All hell has broken loose.
1155
00:48:07,462 --> 00:48:09,264
\h\h\h\h\h- Roddy was
the ultimate bad guy.
1156
00:48:09,264 --> 00:48:12,528
He sold it. He practiced it.
\hHe was good at what he did.
1157
00:48:12,528 --> 00:48:14,462
- We’ve got a madhouse here.
1158
00:48:14,462 --> 00:48:16,264
- Security holding
\h\heveryone back.
1159
00:48:16,264 --> 00:48:19,396
- And it just went--it just
\h\hwent berserk, you know?
1160
00:48:19,396 --> 00:48:20,495
It was--
[laughs]
1161
00:48:20,495 --> 00:48:22,627
\hI laugh at it now
’cause it’s so old,
1162
00:48:22,627 --> 00:48:24,132
I think about it,
\h\h\h\hyou know.
1163
00:48:24,132 --> 00:48:26,264
\h\h\hIt reminded me
of the Keystone Cops
1164
00:48:26,264 --> 00:48:27,396
’cause everybody
\h\hwas fighting.
1165
00:48:27,396 --> 00:48:29,528
- What happened to our match?
1166
00:48:29,528 --> 00:48:31,594
- We don’t have
a match anymore.
1167
00:48:31,594 --> 00:48:32,660
It’s pandemonium.
1168
00:48:32,660 --> 00:48:33,627
- Well, back then,
1169
00:48:33,627 --> 00:48:35,462
\h\hwe were still really
protecting the business.
1170
00:48:35,462 --> 00:48:37,759
"Should we tell the cops
what we’re doing or not?"
1171
00:48:37,759 --> 00:48:39,396
And the standard mode was,
1172
00:48:39,396 --> 00:48:40,726
"Oh, don’t tell anybody
\h\h\h\h\h\hanything."
1173
00:48:40,726 --> 00:48:42,528
\h\h\h\h\hLet’s just get
their natural reaction.
1174
00:48:42,528 --> 00:48:45,132
- All of a sudden,
\h\hsome policemen
1175
00:48:45,132 --> 00:48:46,264
came in the ring on me.
1176
00:48:46,264 --> 00:48:50,099
\h\hThere’s a cop with a gun,
and here the rest of ’em come.
1177
00:48:50,099 --> 00:48:52,000
- Piper was fighting the cops
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hand everything.
1178
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:54,132
It was just insanity.
1179
00:48:54,132 --> 00:48:57,396
\h\h\h\h\h- Hulk Hogan
was the biggest hero.
1180
00:48:57,396 --> 00:48:58,066
♪ ♪
1181
00:48:58,066 --> 00:49:01,759
Roddy Piper was the most
\h\h\h\hdetested villain.
1182
00:49:01,759 --> 00:49:06,759
And now we are ready
\h\hto start our road
1183
00:49:06,759 --> 00:49:12,627
to the first WrestleMania.
1184
00:49:12,627 --> 00:49:15,264
- Okay, Ariel, let’s go.
Whoo, whoo, whoo!
1185
00:49:15,264 --> 00:49:16,660
Come on, Ariel.
1186
00:49:16,660 --> 00:49:18,000
- She’s tired.
1187
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:20,594
There’s the proud papa.
1188
00:49:20,594 --> 00:49:22,231
Papa Piper.
1189
00:49:22,231 --> 00:49:25,627
\h\h\h\h- My dad often
would say things like,
1190
00:49:25,627 --> 00:49:27,132
"I can’t imagine
\hhow hard it is
1191
00:49:27,132 --> 00:49:28,264
to be Roddy Piper’s kid."
1192
00:49:28,264 --> 00:49:31,528
- Here comes Roddy and Ariel.
1193
00:49:31,528 --> 00:49:34,396
- He felt guilty, like he was
\h\h\h\hsome way a bad parent
1194
00:49:34,396 --> 00:49:37,099
because his career was,
\h\h\h\h\hin some way,
1195
00:49:37,099 --> 00:49:38,099
affecting our lives.
1196
00:49:38,099 --> 00:49:40,627
\h\h\h[laughter and
indistinct chatter]
1197
00:49:42,099 --> 00:49:45,396
- When we were starting out
\h\h\h\h\has a young family,
1198
00:49:45,396 --> 00:49:48,396
he came to me and said,
1199
00:49:48,396 --> 00:49:50,132
\h"I really do not
want our children
1200
00:49:50,132 --> 00:49:52,528
"to grow up in a hundred
\h\h\h\hdifferent places.
1201
00:49:52,528 --> 00:49:54,462
I want them to have roots."
1202
00:49:54,462 --> 00:49:56,132
You sure are pretty.
1203
00:49:56,132 --> 00:50:00,198
’Cause he never felt like
\h\h\h\h\h\hhe had a home.
1204
00:50:00,627 --> 00:50:03,000
\hWe chose to live
in the country...
1205
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:03,660
- [laughing]
1206
00:50:03,660 --> 00:50:05,660
- And have a lot of land
\h\h\h\h\h\h\haround us.
1207
00:50:05,660 --> 00:50:07,495
It was a safe zone.
1208
00:50:07,495 --> 00:50:12,231
- We lived on a 10-acre ranch
\h\hin the middle of nowhere,
1209
00:50:12,231 --> 00:50:13,363
end of a gravel road,
1210
00:50:13,363 --> 00:50:18,396
\hand we really kept
to just that ranch.
1211
00:50:18,396 --> 00:50:20,528
\h\h\h\h\h\h- Good-bye.
With any kind of luck,
1212
00:50:20,528 --> 00:50:23,495
she’ll keep going and we won’t
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hhave to feed her.
1213
00:50:23,495 --> 00:50:24,396
[laughs]
1214
00:50:24,396 --> 00:50:26,132
- We wanted to be isolated
1215
00:50:26,132 --> 00:50:28,726
because we had actual stalkers
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hwho would come
1216
00:50:28,726 --> 00:50:33,363
and try and break into our house
or be on our property.
1217
00:50:33,363 --> 00:50:37,660
- We did not go to the malls.
\hWe did not go to the movies.
1218
00:50:37,660 --> 00:50:41,066
I must’ve gotten 30 fights
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hin one year,
1219
00:50:41,066 --> 00:50:42,528
just because people wanted
1220
00:50:42,528 --> 00:50:45,660
to test their moxie
\h\h\h\hagainst me.
1221
00:50:46,264 --> 00:50:47,396
[dog barks]
1222
00:50:47,396 --> 00:50:49,594
♪ ♪
1223
00:50:49,594 --> 00:50:52,396
- And this kind of thing
\h\h\h\h\his real life.
1224
00:50:52,396 --> 00:50:53,132
♪ ♪
1225
00:50:53,132 --> 00:50:57,132
This is the kind of thing
\h\h\hthat makes a family.
1226
00:50:57,132 --> 00:50:58,396
♪ ♪
1227
00:50:58,396 --> 00:51:00,396
It’s a great way of nature,
1228
00:51:00,396 --> 00:51:03,264
just teaching a family
\h\hhow to be a family
1229
00:51:03,264 --> 00:51:04,528
and stay together.
1230
00:51:04,528 --> 00:51:07,495
♪ ♪
1231
00:51:08,528 --> 00:51:13,660
- I had a meeting with a small
\hroom full of our executives,
1232
00:51:13,660 --> 00:51:14,660
and I said,
1233
00:51:14,660 --> 00:51:16,231
"There is a Super Bowl,
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hyou know.
1234
00:51:16,231 --> 00:51:17,330
There’s a World Series."
1235
00:51:17,330 --> 00:51:18,396
There’s this, there’s that.
1236
00:51:18,396 --> 00:51:20,066
It was really common sense.
1237
00:51:20,066 --> 00:51:22,660
So why not have
one of your own?
1238
00:51:22,660 --> 00:51:24,528
Call it WrestleMania.
1239
00:51:24,528 --> 00:51:26,066
We would not have
\hWrestleMania I
1240
00:51:26,066 --> 00:51:27,660
had it not been for Roddy
because you have to have,
1241
00:51:27,660 --> 00:51:30,726
again, a strong antagonist
to go with the protagonist.
1242
00:51:30,726 --> 00:51:33,264
- Check this out, dude.
\h\h\h\hCheck that out.
1243
00:51:33,264 --> 00:51:34,627
- You have to have
\h\h\hgood stories
1244
00:51:34,627 --> 00:51:36,660
and you have to have
\h\hbold characters
1245
00:51:36,660 --> 00:51:38,462
and larger-than-life
\h\h\h\hindividuals,
1246
00:51:38,462 --> 00:51:39,627
and Roddy was all of that.
1247
00:51:39,627 --> 00:51:43,627
\h\h\h\hSo I knew I had Roddy,
I knew I had Hogan and Mr. T.
1248
00:51:44,231 --> 00:51:45,264
\h\h\h\hIt was like,
that was gonna work.
1249
00:51:45,264 --> 00:51:49,198
- How does it feel to be
portraying someone like myself?
1250
00:51:49,198 --> 00:51:51,066
- Well, you ain’t nothing, man.
1251
00:51:51,066 --> 00:51:51,594
- Oh, oh, why?
1252
00:51:51,594 --> 00:51:54,132
Oh, because I don’t have
a chair with my name on it?
1253
00:51:54,132 --> 00:51:56,759
- Roddy Piper really did not
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hlike Mr. T.
1254
00:51:56,759 --> 00:51:59,396
- Don’t look at--
- Hey, hey, hey.
1255
00:51:59,396 --> 00:52:00,396
[overlapping shouting]
1256
00:52:00,396 --> 00:52:04,759
- In those days, you know,
you really paid some dues
1257
00:52:04,759 --> 00:52:06,528
to be in the main event.
1258
00:52:06,528 --> 00:52:10,462
Then Mr. T walks in, not even
\h\hhaving a match anywhere,
1259
00:52:10,462 --> 00:52:13,759
\hand it’s like, "What right
does he have to be in my ring
1260
00:52:13,759 --> 00:52:14,627
in the main event?"
1261
00:52:14,627 --> 00:52:16,264
- You want to get in there,
brother,
1262
00:52:16,264 --> 00:52:17,726
and you want to try
some fighting, huh?
1263
00:52:17,726 --> 00:52:21,660
\h- We’d never brought in
somebody from the outside,
1264
00:52:21,660 --> 00:52:23,132
and one of the biggest
\h\h\h\hproblems I had
1265
00:52:23,132 --> 00:52:26,264
was the barbaric mindset
\h\hof Piper and Orndorff.
1266
00:52:26,264 --> 00:52:28,000
- You’re looking at someone
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hthat will...
1267
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:29,528
\h\h\h- "He’s an actor.
He’s not into wrestling.
1268
00:52:29,528 --> 00:52:31,000
We’re just gonna
break his legs."
1269
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:32,066
I said, "Guys, please."
1270
00:52:32,066 --> 00:52:34,000
\h\h- How can I say it
without sounding cocky?
1271
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:37,231
They didn’t understand
\h\hthat bringing me in
1272
00:52:37,231 --> 00:52:38,726
would broaden they thing
1273
00:52:38,726 --> 00:52:41,330
because, basically,
\hyou know, Vince,
1274
00:52:41,330 --> 00:52:43,066
\h\hbeing the pioneer
that he is, he said,
1275
00:52:43,066 --> 00:52:46,000
"Wow, we gonna broaden,
bring it to the world."
1276
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:47,264
- You come on down, T.
1277
00:52:47,264 --> 00:52:50,363
We’ll put an X
where the T should be.
1278
00:52:50,363 --> 00:52:53,528
- Roddy hated the thought
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hof a Mr. T
1279
00:52:53,528 --> 00:52:55,264
coming into his arena.
1280
00:52:55,264 --> 00:52:59,000
\hIt’s an insult. It’s a slap
in the face to the business.
1281
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:00,462
- I had these two guys
1282
00:53:00,462 --> 00:53:02,000
\h\h\h\hthat had this
old-school mentality,
1283
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:06,594
and plus I got this guy who’s
\hgot this real edgy attitude.
1284
00:53:06,594 --> 00:53:08,594
You know, he’s always talking
\h\h\h\hin the third person.
1285
00:53:08,594 --> 00:53:10,198
"Mr. T don’t put up with that."
1286
00:53:10,198 --> 00:53:11,396
- Mr. T ain’t no powder puff,
1287
00:53:11,396 --> 00:53:13,396
you had to understand,
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hyou know.
1288
00:53:13,396 --> 00:53:16,264
- They didn’t want to lose
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hto Mr. T
1289
00:53:16,264 --> 00:53:18,396
\hbecause he’s not
a "real wrestler."
1290
00:53:18,396 --> 00:53:19,528
[no audible dialogue]
1291
00:53:19,528 --> 00:53:23,231
- There I am, the hottest heel
\h\h\h\h\h\hthey’ve ever had,
1292
00:53:23,231 --> 00:53:27,132
and now they want me
\h\hto take a dive.
1293
00:53:27,132 --> 00:53:29,132
I said, "I ain’t doing it."
1294
00:53:29,132 --> 00:53:31,264
- I was kind of like
\h\h\hthe babysitter,
1295
00:53:31,264 --> 00:53:32,660
\hthe moderator,
the peacekeeper,
1296
00:53:32,660 --> 00:53:34,660
and I was ready to have
\ha nervous breakdown.
1297
00:53:34,660 --> 00:53:39,726
- The wrestling extravaganza
\hof all time, WrestleMania.
1298
00:53:39,726 --> 00:53:40,528
- The people knew
1299
00:53:40,528 --> 00:53:43,264
\hthe wrestling business
was changing that night.
1300
00:53:43,264 --> 00:53:48,330
\hThere was a fever pitch
in Madison Square Garden.
1301
00:53:48,330 --> 00:53:50,363
- Piper’s gonna get it.
\h\h\h\h\h\h- Get what?
1302
00:53:50,363 --> 00:53:52,132
- Get his butt kicked.
1303
00:53:52,132 --> 00:53:53,099
♪ ♪
1304
00:53:53,099 --> 00:53:57,660
\h\h\h- What do you do to show
the world what this product is
1305
00:53:57,660 --> 00:54:00,231
and what it will be, you know,
\h\h\h\h\hin a really big way?
1306
00:54:00,231 --> 00:54:03,231
\h\h\hLiberace, how the hell
doe he fit into any of this?
1307
00:54:03,231 --> 00:54:04,660
\h\h\h\h\hHe doesn’t.
That’s why I had him.
1308
00:54:04,660 --> 00:54:08,594
\h\h\h\hThis is what sports
entertainment is all about.
1309
00:54:08,594 --> 00:54:11,000
It was everything we had,
\h\h\h\h\hwe threw it in,
1310
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:13,396
and let’s roll the dice
and do it in a big way.
1311
00:54:13,396 --> 00:54:15,495
Everything I had
was on the line.
1312
00:54:15,495 --> 00:54:17,132
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h[playing
spirited bagpipe music]
1313
00:54:17,132 --> 00:54:18,660
- There he is.
1314
00:54:18,660 --> 00:54:19,660
[crowd booing]
1315
00:54:19,660 --> 00:54:21,066
- Rowdy Roddy Piper...
1316
00:54:21,066 --> 00:54:25,000
- Here is what is arguably
\h\h\h\hthe turning point
1317
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:28,528
\h\h\h\h\h\hof the WWE
in just so many ways.
1318
00:54:28,528 --> 00:54:30,462
Roddy was very stubborn,
1319
00:54:30,462 --> 00:54:32,627
\hbut you’re about
to make more money
1320
00:54:32,627 --> 00:54:36,066
\h\h\h\hthan you ever had
in your entire lifetime.
1321
00:54:36,066 --> 00:54:36,759
[bell dings]
1322
00:54:36,759 --> 00:54:40,066
\h\h\h\h- There goes the bell.
Look at the bell by Liberace.
1323
00:54:40,066 --> 00:54:41,396
- Fans are chanting T, T, T.
1324
00:54:41,396 --> 00:54:43,000
And they’re going
\h\hnose-to-nose.
1325
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:44,132
- Lookit, nose-to-nose.
1326
00:54:44,132 --> 00:54:47,330
- Mr. T and Rowdy Roddy Piper,
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hnose-to-nose...
1327
00:54:47,330 --> 00:54:50,462
- Roddy was smart enough
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hto know,
1328
00:54:50,462 --> 00:54:51,660
"Yeah, I’m gonna do business,
1329
00:54:51,660 --> 00:54:53,198
and I’m gonna make it
\h\h\h\h\hlook right.
1330
00:54:53,198 --> 00:54:55,396
You don’t have to like it.
1331
00:54:55,396 --> 00:54:57,000
- They’re exchanging--oh!
1332
00:54:57,000 --> 00:55:00,099
Piper now goes behind quickly,
takes him down to the canvas.
1333
00:55:00,099 --> 00:55:04,132
\h\h\h- At a certain point,
Roddy Piper instructs Mr. T,
1334
00:55:04,132 --> 00:55:06,660
\h\h\h\h\h\h"Pick me up
in a fireman’s carry."
1335
00:55:06,660 --> 00:55:09,396
- Oh, nice fireman’s carry.
1336
00:55:09,396 --> 00:55:10,660
- Even though he didn’t want
1337
00:55:10,660 --> 00:55:13,066
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hMr. T
to take advantage of him,
1338
00:55:13,066 --> 00:55:16,462
\h\hRoddy Piper knows
how to sell himself,
1339
00:55:16,462 --> 00:55:19,264
and he knows that’s the photo
1340
00:55:19,264 --> 00:55:21,528
\h\h\h\hthat will go
all over the world.
1341
00:55:21,528 --> 00:55:22,660
♪ ♪
1342
00:55:22,660 --> 00:55:24,264
- What’s he gonna
\h\h\hdo with him?
1343
00:55:24,264 --> 00:55:27,066
\h\hOh, drops him like
yesterday’s newspaper.
1344
00:55:27,066 --> 00:55:28,462
- You need to make Mr. T
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hthe hero.
1345
00:55:28,462 --> 00:55:30,000
This is what this is all about.
1346
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:31,660
\h\h\h\h- Mr. T now
in the wrong corner.
1347
00:55:31,660 --> 00:55:33,000
Here comes the Hulk.
1348
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:34,660
- Mr. T should have beaten
\h\h\h\hone of those guys
1349
00:55:34,660 --> 00:55:36,660
right in the middle
\h\h\h\hof the ring,
1350
00:55:36,660 --> 00:55:37,660
preferably Piper.
1351
00:55:37,660 --> 00:55:39,726
\h\h\h\h\h- As Piper
was about to lower--
1352
00:55:39,726 --> 00:55:40,726
Look out!
1353
00:55:40,726 --> 00:55:43,495
\h\h\h\h- But instead,
they had to have Orton
1354
00:55:43,495 --> 00:55:45,099
jump off the top rope
\h\h\h\h\hwith a cast.
1355
00:55:45,099 --> 00:55:49,264
It hits Orndorff on the head
just so we could get a win.
1356
00:55:49,264 --> 00:55:51,528
Piper didn’t want
\h\hto do the job,
1357
00:55:51,528 --> 00:55:53,198
even in WrestleMania.
1358
00:55:53,198 --> 00:55:55,627
\h\h\h\h\hYou’re the bad guy.
You’re supposed to get beat.
1359
00:55:55,627 --> 00:55:57,462
That’s what bad guys do.
1360
00:55:57,462 --> 00:55:58,231
♪ ♪
1361
00:55:58,231 --> 00:56:01,132
\h\h\h\h\hHe was so protective
about protecting Roddy Piper,
1362
00:56:01,132 --> 00:56:05,264
\h\h\hand he didn’t realize if
you just listen to our opinion,
1363
00:56:05,264 --> 00:56:08,396
I think you might find things
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\ha lot easier.
1364
00:56:08,396 --> 00:56:09,330
♪ ♪
1365
00:56:09,330 --> 00:56:11,363
But Piper didn’t like me,
\h\h\h\hyou know, at all.
1366
00:56:11,363 --> 00:56:14,462
I mean, there was no rapport
\h\h\hat all with him and I.
1367
00:56:14,462 --> 00:56:15,726
It was strictly business.
1368
00:56:15,726 --> 00:56:17,264
\h\hWe didn’t talk
unless we had to.
1369
00:56:17,264 --> 00:56:20,759
But later on in life, Piper and
I got to be real good friends.
1370
00:56:20,759 --> 00:56:22,099
I said, "You screwed up, man.
1371
00:56:22,099 --> 00:56:24,264
\h\h\h"You could’ve been one of
the richest guys I’ve ever met,
1372
00:56:24,264 --> 00:56:26,660
but you wouldn’t let me
\h\h\h\h\h\hbeat you."
1373
00:56:26,660 --> 00:56:28,231
So he goes, "Damn it.
\h\h\hI’m so pissed.
1374
00:56:28,231 --> 00:56:29,198
I wish we would’ve talked."
1375
00:56:29,198 --> 00:56:32,660
I said, "I tried to talk.
You wouldn’t talk to me."
1376
00:56:33,594 --> 00:56:35,099
- Hulk Hogan, Mr. T,
1377
00:56:35,099 --> 00:56:39,132
kind of taking the center
stage of that whole event,
1378
00:56:39,132 --> 00:56:40,627
he always felt
1379
00:56:40,627 --> 00:56:42,330
they couldn’t have been
\h\h\hthe center stage
1380
00:56:42,330 --> 00:56:44,264
without him being there,
\h\h\hbeing the bad guy.
1381
00:56:44,264 --> 00:56:47,759
And he knew his worth.
\h\hHe knew his worth.
1382
00:56:47,759 --> 00:56:55,264
\h- It’s things like that that
made Roddy the ultimate rebel.
1383
00:56:55,264 --> 00:56:57,660
♪ ♪
1384
00:56:57,660 --> 00:56:59,264
- For myself to stay on top,
1385
00:56:59,264 --> 00:57:02,627
\h\h\h\hI needed to get out
of the business completely,
1386
00:57:02,627 --> 00:57:05,462
\h\hdo something
in another form.
1387
00:57:05,462 --> 00:57:06,528
♪ ♪
1388
00:57:06,528 --> 00:57:08,231
- I spent a lot of time
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hwith Roddy
1389
00:57:08,231 --> 00:57:10,495
\h\h\h\h\hand had a lot
of big talks with Roddy
1390
00:57:10,495 --> 00:57:11,495
about that time period,
1391
00:57:11,495 --> 00:57:13,132
and I remember Roddy
basically telling me
1392
00:57:13,132 --> 00:57:18,000
that you got to have something
\h\h\h\helse after wrestling.
1393
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:19,264
"What are you gonna do
\h\h\h\h\hafter that?"
1394
00:57:19,264 --> 00:57:21,264
And he’s like, "Hollywood."
1395
00:57:21,264 --> 00:57:24,264
♪ ♪
1396
00:57:24,264 --> 00:57:28,363
\h\h\h- Roddy had a quality
that I could use in a movie.
1397
00:57:28,363 --> 00:57:31,099
- Well, first of all, he didn’t
\h\h\h\hhave a pretty-boy face
1398
00:57:31,099 --> 00:57:32,099
like a Hollywood actor,
1399
00:57:32,099 --> 00:57:36,132
\hand this role required him
to be kind of a working man.
1400
00:57:36,132 --> 00:57:38,198
- You, you’re okay.
1401
00:57:38,198 --> 00:57:40,231
This one?
Real [bleep] ugly.
1402
00:57:40,231 --> 00:57:44,132
\h- The character of John Nada
is really based a lot on Roddy
1403
00:57:44,132 --> 00:57:46,198
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hand his past
and what he’d been through,
1404
00:57:46,198 --> 00:57:48,660
and he added a lot
of color to that.
1405
00:57:48,660 --> 00:57:51,264
He gave me a notebook.
1406
00:57:51,264 --> 00:57:54,132
\hNow, this notebook were
written all these phrases
1407
00:57:54,132 --> 00:57:56,528
and ideas he had
\hfor interviews.
1408
00:57:56,528 --> 00:57:58,495
♪ ♪
1409
00:57:58,495 --> 00:58:00,066
\h\hAnd right there,
sitting there, was,
1410
00:58:00,066 --> 00:58:02,066
"I’ve come here to chew
bubble gum and kick ass,
1411
00:58:02,066 --> 00:58:04,264
and I’m all out
of bubble gum."
1412
00:58:04,264 --> 00:58:06,330
I went, "That’s a great line.
\h\h\h\h\hI could use that."
1413
00:58:06,330 --> 00:58:11,726
- I have come here to chew
\hbubble gum and kick ass,
1414
00:58:11,726 --> 00:58:14,396
and I’m all out of bubble gum.
1415
00:58:14,396 --> 00:58:16,231
- Oh, [bleep]!
\h\h\h[gunshot]
1416
00:58:17,528 --> 00:58:21,528
\h\h\h- That’s all his idea.
That was all from his brain.
1417
00:58:21,528 --> 00:58:24,495
- I’ve never felt safer
\h\h\h\h\h\hin my life
1418
00:58:24,495 --> 00:58:28,000
\h\hthan fighting
with Roddy Piper.
1419
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:30,363
[both grunting]
1420
00:58:30,759 --> 00:58:32,132
I believe that fight scene
1421
00:58:32,132 --> 00:58:35,099
\hlasts literally about
seven minutes onscreen.
1422
00:58:35,099 --> 00:58:37,396
[both grunting and shouting]
1423
00:58:37,396 --> 00:58:38,396
- We really, you know,
1424
00:58:38,396 --> 00:58:40,264
choreographed the [bleep]
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hout of it.
1425
00:58:40,264 --> 00:58:44,132
\h\hBut there was one time
we were both so hyped up--
1426
00:58:44,132 --> 00:58:45,495
I was especially hyped up--
1427
00:58:45,495 --> 00:58:47,726
and that first punch,
1428
00:58:47,726 --> 00:58:49,066
I hit him right in the face.
1429
00:58:49,066 --> 00:58:52,099
And it was--and I’d be like,
\h"Oh, [bleep]. Oh, [bleep]."
1430
00:58:52,099 --> 00:58:53,396
\h\h\h\h\h\hAnd he’s like,
"Come on, man. Don’t worry.
1431
00:58:53,396 --> 00:58:56,660
\h\h"Come on, snap out of it.
Come on, let’s start again."
1432
00:58:56,660 --> 00:58:58,099
And he was great.
1433
00:58:58,099 --> 00:59:02,330
- Brother, life’s a bitch.
1434
00:59:03,066 --> 00:59:04,594
Don’t feel sorry for me.
1435
00:59:04,594 --> 00:59:06,396
My name’s John Nada.
1436
00:59:06,396 --> 00:59:07,264
- [laughs]
1437
00:59:07,264 --> 00:59:09,264
\h\hA year and a half
we were in Los Angeles
1438
00:59:09,264 --> 00:59:11,000
while he was filming
\h\h\hthose movies.
1439
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:12,396
He brought the scripts home,
1440
00:59:12,396 --> 00:59:13,528
and we’d go over them.
1441
00:59:13,528 --> 00:59:18,759
\hHe was always leaving
to go to acting classes.
1442
00:59:18,759 --> 00:59:22,726
\hI mean, it was--it was
a whole nother lifestyle.
1443
00:59:24,594 --> 00:59:27,000
\h\h\h- It was not
like it was today,
1444
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:28,396
where it’s a lot more flexible
1445
00:59:28,396 --> 00:59:30,495
\h\hfor wrestlers
to also do acting.
1446
00:59:30,495 --> 00:59:32,594
Back then, it was,
you didn’t do that.
1447
00:59:32,594 --> 00:59:34,594
It was not an easy road to be,
1448
00:59:34,594 --> 00:59:37,396
really, the first wrestler
\h\h\h\h\hto go into film.
1449
00:59:37,396 --> 00:59:39,000
\h\h\h\h\h- When Vince
was booking everything,
1450
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:40,000
without Piper’s name,
1451
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:42,759
it was real hard for us
to make that transition
1452
00:59:42,759 --> 00:59:45,000
’cause Piper was so hot
\h\h\h\h\h\hat the time.
1453
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:47,132
- If Roddy wanted to go off
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hand do film,
1454
00:59:47,132 --> 00:59:48,231
what am I going to say?
1455
00:59:48,231 --> 00:59:50,099
No, don’t take advantage
\h\hof that opportunity?
1456
00:59:50,099 --> 00:59:51,726
\h\h\hAs long as I know
that he’s coming back.
1457
00:59:51,726 --> 00:59:55,264
\h\h\h\h\h- He loved acting
and he loved the work of it
1458
00:59:55,264 --> 00:59:56,726
but he felt alienated
1459
00:59:56,726 --> 00:59:58,660
and didn’t really have
\h\h\ha lot in common
1460
00:59:58,660 --> 01:00:01,264
with a lot of the people
\h\h\h\h\h\hin Hollywood.
1461
01:00:01,264 --> 01:00:04,396
\h\h- The only people
that can understand me
1462
01:00:04,396 --> 01:00:06,198
are other wrestlers.
1463
01:00:06,198 --> 01:00:08,066
♪ ♪
1464
01:00:08,066 --> 01:00:11,462
I needed to come back
\h\h\h\hto the WWE...
1465
01:00:11,462 --> 01:00:12,594
♪ ♪
1466
01:00:12,594 --> 01:00:14,660
and walk back in
the front door.
1467
01:00:14,660 --> 01:00:20,528
♪ ♪
1468
01:00:20,528 --> 01:00:22,396
- Rowdy Roddy Piper!
1469
01:00:22,396 --> 01:00:27,627
\h- When I came back into
wrestling from Hollywood,
1470
01:00:27,627 --> 01:00:33,264
bringing that credibility back
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hwas huge.
1471
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:36,396
- As far as Roddy’s
\h\h\hstandpoint is,
1472
01:00:36,396 --> 01:00:37,528
well, you had to bring me back
1473
01:00:37,528 --> 01:00:39,132
because I was the greatest
\h\h\h\h\hstar of all time.
1474
01:00:39,132 --> 01:00:43,066
You know, that would be Roddy’s
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hpoint of view.
1475
01:00:43,066 --> 01:00:44,528
But it didn’t matter
\h\h\hwhat you want.
1476
01:00:44,528 --> 01:00:46,363
You give the audience
\h\h\hwhat they want.
1477
01:00:46,363 --> 01:00:49,462
They want Roddy to come back,
\hwell, let’s give them Roddy.
1478
01:00:49,462 --> 01:00:52,660
- Standing ovation here
\h\h\h\hfor Rowdy Roddy.
1479
01:00:52,660 --> 01:00:54,099
- And after a respite,
1480
01:00:54,099 --> 01:00:55,528
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hyou know,
Roddy’s ready to come back.
1481
01:00:55,528 --> 01:00:57,627
\h\h\hGreat, he’s fresh.
He’s new all over again.
1482
01:00:57,627 --> 01:00:59,363
Different set of opponents.
1483
01:00:59,363 --> 01:01:01,000
- Mr. Downey?
1484
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:02,594
- Yes, Mr. Piper?
1485
01:01:02,594 --> 01:01:05,066
- Don’t blow no more smoke
in my face.
1486
01:01:05,066 --> 01:01:06,528
- Morton Downey, Jr.,
was a talk show host.
1487
01:01:06,528 --> 01:01:07,759
You know, he was a big mouth.
1488
01:01:07,759 --> 01:01:09,396
And Roddy had this
impeccable timing.
1489
01:01:09,396 --> 01:01:13,066
So when Downey blows smoke
\h\h\h\h\hin Roddy’s face,
1490
01:01:13,066 --> 01:01:16,396
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hit’s like,
"One, two, three, four."
1491
01:01:16,396 --> 01:01:18,231
\h\h\h\h\hInstead of
immediately doing it,
1492
01:01:18,231 --> 01:01:20,396
"Watch something’s going
\h\h\h\h\hto happen now."
1493
01:01:20,396 --> 01:01:21,726
And then it does.
1494
01:01:21,726 --> 01:01:23,132
- Ya-ha!
1495
01:01:23,132 --> 01:01:24,363
[laughs]
1496
01:01:25,528 --> 01:01:27,132
- He was so creative.
1497
01:01:27,132 --> 01:01:29,495
- I think the fire is out,
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hJess.
1498
01:01:29,495 --> 01:01:31,396
- Very quick on his feet.
1499
01:01:31,396 --> 01:01:32,132
♪ ♪
1500
01:01:32,132 --> 01:01:35,528
\hBut at the same time,
he was very opinionated
1501
01:01:35,528 --> 01:01:38,198
\h\h\hand wanted someone
to listen to his opinion.
1502
01:01:38,198 --> 01:01:40,396
I listened to a lot
\hof Roddy’s ideas,
1503
01:01:40,396 --> 01:01:42,000
some of which were really
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hdead on
1504
01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:45,000
\h\h\h\hand some of which were,
whew, wow, that was out there.
1505
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:47,264
- They say you shouldn’t blow
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hyour own horn.
1506
01:01:47,264 --> 01:01:48,363
Don’t they say that?
\h\h\h\h\h\hWhy not?
1507
01:01:48,363 --> 01:01:51,132
- You are the most
arrogant individual
1508
01:01:51,132 --> 01:01:52,231
I think we’ve ever had.
1509
01:01:52,231 --> 01:01:54,231
\h\h- I believe Roddy once
described our relationship
1510
01:01:54,231 --> 01:01:57,000
as a love-hate relationship.
1511
01:01:57,000 --> 01:01:57,726
We never fought.
1512
01:01:57,726 --> 01:02:00,396
There were a couple times
\hwhen it was very close,
1513
01:02:00,396 --> 01:02:02,495
but that was the way it was
\h\h\h\hback in those days.
1514
01:02:02,495 --> 01:02:05,528
A lot of times, you settled
\h\hthings in a fistfight.
1515
01:02:05,528 --> 01:02:06,528
You just did.
1516
01:02:06,528 --> 01:02:09,528
- Vince and I were two peas
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hin a pod.
1517
01:02:09,528 --> 01:02:11,759
I love the ass[bleep].
1518
01:02:11,759 --> 01:02:12,528
I do.
1519
01:02:12,528 --> 01:02:15,000
He’s an ass[bleep] sometimes.
1520
01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:17,132
So am I.
1521
01:02:17,132 --> 01:02:18,264
[crowd chanting "Roddy"]
1522
01:02:18,264 --> 01:02:22,363
\h\h\h\h\h\h- Roddy Piper was
an attraction all to himself.
1523
01:02:22,363 --> 01:02:25,528
The fans could no longer
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hboo him.
1524
01:02:25,528 --> 01:02:26,462
♪ ♪
1525
01:02:26,462 --> 01:02:29,462
\h\h\h\hYou came to see
Roddy Piper’s intensity,
1526
01:02:29,462 --> 01:02:31,594
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hyou came
to hear his big mouth,
1527
01:02:31,594 --> 01:02:35,396
and you came to watch
\h\h\h\hthat frenzied,
1528
01:02:35,396 --> 01:02:40,528
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hkinetic spirit
he brought between the ropes.
1529
01:02:40,528 --> 01:02:45,000
- Rowdy Roddy Piper!
1530
01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:49,627
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Whether he won
or whether he was humiliated,
1531
01:02:49,627 --> 01:02:51,528
\h\h\h\hhe was a draw,
and he remained a draw.
1532
01:02:51,528 --> 01:02:55,264
\h\h\h\h\h- We have a new
intercontinental champion:
1533
01:02:55,264 --> 01:02:58,132
Hot Rod Rowdy Roddy Piper.
1534
01:02:58,132 --> 01:03:01,000
- Roddy Piper was maturing,
1535
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:03,528
\hand it wasn’t
all about Roddy
1536
01:03:03,528 --> 01:03:10,066
and Roddy was proving that,
hey, I can make people too.
1537
01:03:10,066 --> 01:03:11,000
♪ ♪
1538
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:14,264
- I wouldn’t lay my shoulders
\h\h\h\h\h\hdown for anybody.
1539
01:03:14,264 --> 01:03:18,396
\hBut when I do,
I make somebody,
1540
01:03:18,396 --> 01:03:20,000
and it means something.
1541
01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:22,594
\h\h\h\h\h\h- This is
going to be something!
1542
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:24,396
- This was a special match.
1543
01:03:24,396 --> 01:03:26,132
This is the biggest moment
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hin my life,
1544
01:03:26,132 --> 01:03:27,264
for sure, up to this point.
1545
01:03:27,264 --> 01:03:30,000
Roddy really launched me.
1546
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:31,528
\h\hLike, my whole career
just starting climbing,
1547
01:03:31,528 --> 01:03:35,099
\h\hand it was Roddy was the one
that gave me that first boost.
1548
01:03:35,099 --> 01:03:38,066
- This is the first time
these two men are meeting
1549
01:03:38,066 --> 01:03:40,000
for the World Wrestling
\h\h\h\h\hEntertainment
1550
01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:40,660
intercontinental title.
1551
01:03:40,660 --> 01:03:43,660
- I think the last time--I think
I did watch this, maybe,
1552
01:03:43,660 --> 01:03:44,396
when Roddy died.
1553
01:03:44,396 --> 01:03:45,528
I always make a point of, like,
1554
01:03:45,528 --> 01:03:48,198
\h\h\h\h\h\htrying to go back
and find some good memories.
1555
01:03:48,198 --> 01:03:52,759
\h\h\h\h- I always felt Roddy
took a special interest in me.
1556
01:03:52,759 --> 01:03:54,330
Roddy was born in Saskatoon,
1557
01:03:54,330 --> 01:03:56,132
and my dad grew up
\h\hin Saskatoon.
1558
01:03:56,132 --> 01:03:59,066
And there was a possibility
\h\h\h\h\hthat their name--
1559
01:03:59,066 --> 01:04:00,363
like, they were in
\hthe same family.
1560
01:04:00,363 --> 01:04:03,462
\h\h\h\hMaybe there was
some blood between us.
1561
01:04:03,462 --> 01:04:05,264
When I first met him,
1562
01:04:05,264 --> 01:04:07,264
we joked that we might
\h\h\h\h\hbe cousins.
1563
01:04:07,264 --> 01:04:08,462
Like, it was like, "Hey, cuz."
1564
01:04:08,462 --> 01:04:11,264
\hAnd I didn’t mind. I never
minded Roddy being a cousin.
1565
01:04:11,264 --> 01:04:16,000
- I know this guy since he’d
been knee-high to a grasshopper.
1566
01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:18,396
\hI remember when they were
changing your potty pants.
1567
01:04:18,396 --> 01:04:22,000
- I think it was a message
\hto the other wrestlers,
1568
01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:23,396
some of the other superstars
1569
01:04:23,396 --> 01:04:26,000
that weren’t in the habit
\h\h\h\hof reaching down
1570
01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:26,759
to help the next guys.
1571
01:04:26,759 --> 01:04:29,132
\h\h\hRoddy was like, "Here,
I’ll show you how it’s done."
1572
01:04:29,132 --> 01:04:31,330
- Eye-to-eye, nose-to-nose.
1573
01:04:31,330 --> 01:04:33,330
- But I was relieved
\h\h\h\hto find out
1574
01:04:33,330 --> 01:04:35,363
that this guy’s really
\h\h\hpitching for me.
1575
01:04:35,363 --> 01:04:38,528
He’s actually opening
\h\hthe doors for me.
1576
01:04:39,132 --> 01:04:40,594
That match was Roddy’s match.
1577
01:04:40,594 --> 01:04:42,132
- Now Rowdy Roddy...
1578
01:04:42,132 --> 01:04:43,132
Oh, bulldog!
1579
01:04:43,132 --> 01:04:45,528
- Roddy put that match
\h\h\h\h\h\htogether.
1580
01:04:45,528 --> 01:04:46,462
- Wide open!
1581
01:04:46,462 --> 01:04:51,000
\h\h- Roddy was so tuned in to
what would work with the fans.
1582
01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:52,132
- He’s got the bell.
1583
01:04:52,132 --> 01:04:53,330
Piper’s gonna
ring his bell.
1584
01:04:53,330 --> 01:04:57,462
\h\h\h- They don’t want him
to brain me with the bell.
1585
01:04:58,066 --> 01:04:59,396
"No, no, don’t do it."
1586
01:04:59,396 --> 01:05:01,528
- He’s having second thoughts.
1587
01:05:01,528 --> 01:05:03,099
\h\h\h\h- His conscience
gets the better of him,
1588
01:05:03,099 --> 01:05:07,330
and he changes his mind here
\h\h\h\h\hand decides not to.
1589
01:05:08,363 --> 01:05:09,528
- Oh, look at that move
1590
01:05:09,528 --> 01:05:11,363
off the turnbuckle!
1591
01:05:11,363 --> 01:05:12,528
\h\h\hIt’s over!
[crowd cheers]
1592
01:05:12,528 --> 01:05:15,132
- See that? Being a nice guy,
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hit cost him.
1593
01:05:15,132 --> 01:05:16,495
Idiot.
1594
01:05:17,462 --> 01:05:18,726
[laughs]
1595
01:05:18,726 --> 01:05:19,660
♪ ♪
1596
01:05:19,660 --> 01:05:22,264
\h\h\h\hOver the years,
Roddy told me many times
1597
01:05:22,264 --> 01:05:24,264
that it was his most
\h\h\hfavorite match,
1598
01:05:24,264 --> 01:05:28,330
\h\h\h\hand, you know,
you never forget that.
1599
01:05:28,396 --> 01:05:29,726
- There’s an old saying
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hthat’s,
1600
01:05:29,726 --> 01:05:33,000
"You need a license to hunt.
You need a license to fish.
1601
01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:34,396
"Any jerk can have a kid.
1602
01:05:34,396 --> 01:05:37,132
It takes a man to be a dad."
1603
01:05:37,132 --> 01:05:38,528
♪ ♪
1604
01:05:38,528 --> 01:05:39,132
Oh, man.
1605
01:05:39,132 --> 01:05:43,231
\h- When I look at my childhood,
my dad was gone almost every day
1606
01:05:43,231 --> 01:05:44,594
\h\h\h\hfor at least
up until I was five.
1607
01:05:44,594 --> 01:05:48,594
- The first, at least,
\h12 years of my life,
1608
01:05:48,594 --> 01:05:50,264
he was gone for long periods
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hof time.
1609
01:05:50,264 --> 01:05:54,132
I think at one point, I didn’t
\h\h\hsee him for over a year.
1610
01:05:54,132 --> 01:05:55,330
♪ ♪
1611
01:05:55,330 --> 01:05:56,627
\h- We both made
the same choice,
1612
01:05:56,627 --> 01:05:57,759
that the wrestling business
1613
01:05:57,759 --> 01:06:00,594
took precedent over anything,
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\heven family,
1614
01:06:00,594 --> 01:06:02,099
so that’s a tough choice
1615
01:06:02,099 --> 01:06:03,528
to look in the mirror
\h\h\hand live with.
1616
01:06:03,528 --> 01:06:09,726
\h\h- You were gone at least
300 days a year, every year.
1617
01:06:09,726 --> 01:06:13,396
\h\h\h\h\hRoddy was--like me,
was a real strong family man.
1618
01:06:13,396 --> 01:06:16,264
\h\h\h\h\hYou know, you--
you commiserate together,
1619
01:06:16,264 --> 01:06:19,000
and you’re missing your kids’
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hbirthday parties
1620
01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:20,066
and you miss Halloween
1621
01:06:20,066 --> 01:06:23,066
and you miss all these little
\h\hspecial days all the time.
1622
01:06:23,066 --> 01:06:24,132
You see pictures,
1623
01:06:24,132 --> 01:06:26,330
\h\h\hthe heartbreak at home
of being gone all the time.
1624
01:06:26,330 --> 01:06:29,363
\h\h\hYou know, it’s just this
very tough part of your life.
1625
01:06:29,363 --> 01:06:34,528
- When Roddy would come home
\h\h\h\hand have to be Dad,
1626
01:06:34,528 --> 01:06:37,363
he was always fun.
1627
01:06:37,363 --> 01:06:39,000
[kids chattering excitedly]
1628
01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:42,495
He would spoil them rotten.
1629
01:06:43,231 --> 01:06:45,132
He would pull them
\h\hout of school,
1630
01:06:45,132 --> 01:06:48,066
\h\hdidn’t matter
what was going on.
1631
01:06:48,462 --> 01:06:49,396
[girls screaming]
1632
01:06:49,396 --> 01:06:55,363
Christmas, he was always home,
\hand always lots of presents.
1633
01:06:55,660 --> 01:06:58,198
\h\h\h\h\h\h- Hey, you!
- A lot of cuddle time.
1634
01:06:58,198 --> 01:07:02,660
\h\h\hHe was trying very hard
to create what he didn’t have.
1635
01:07:02,660 --> 01:07:07,132
\h\h\h\h- He would come home,
and he would be so exhausted,
1636
01:07:07,132 --> 01:07:09,066
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hyou know,
while trying to see us.
1637
01:07:09,066 --> 01:07:11,231
And then he would want
\h\h\h\h\h\hto have fun
1638
01:07:11,231 --> 01:07:12,726
or just do something
\h\h\h\has a family.
1639
01:07:12,726 --> 01:07:15,660
\hAnd then immediately, like,
as soon as we were having fun,
1640
01:07:15,660 --> 01:07:19,000
\h\h\h\hyou could see him
getting antsy about work.
1641
01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:21,330
You could see it start to tick
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hlike a clock,
1642
01:07:21,330 --> 01:07:22,660
going faster and faster.
1643
01:07:22,660 --> 01:07:24,132
And I think he missed it.
1644
01:07:24,132 --> 01:07:26,099
You know, he missed us
\h\hwhen he was gone,
1645
01:07:26,099 --> 01:07:29,066
and he missed the action
\h\h\hwhen he was home.
1646
01:07:29,066 --> 01:07:31,132
- He was like a runaway
\h\has a kid growing up
1647
01:07:31,132 --> 01:07:35,528
and spent a lot of time on the
\h\hroad in his own mind-set.
1648
01:07:35,528 --> 01:07:38,066
Like, Roddy against the world.
1649
01:07:38,066 --> 01:07:41,264
\h\hHe was not like
any other wrestler.
1650
01:07:41,264 --> 01:07:43,363
He was in his own world.
1651
01:07:43,363 --> 01:07:46,132
\h\hI think that world
also meant going away.
1652
01:07:46,132 --> 01:07:50,660
- I’m gonna get 30 minutes
\hwith my dad this month.
1653
01:07:50,660 --> 01:07:52,528
I just want to hug him,
\h\h\h\hcuddle with him,
1654
01:07:52,528 --> 01:07:55,495
kiss him, and do whatever
\h\h\hI can in that time,
1655
01:07:55,495 --> 01:07:56,627
because I literally get him
1656
01:07:56,627 --> 01:07:58,198
on his transfer
layover flight.
1657
01:07:58,198 --> 01:08:01,066
He wasn’t an NFL player
\h\hthat had a season.
1658
01:08:01,066 --> 01:08:01,759
He went 365.
1659
01:08:01,759 --> 01:08:03,330
- [plays note]
- There you go.
1660
01:08:03,330 --> 01:08:05,660
- They never liked
\h\hseeing him go,
1661
01:08:05,660 --> 01:08:07,330
\h\h\h\heveryone,
including myself.
1662
01:08:07,330 --> 01:08:09,660
\h\h\h- If you could wish for
anything in the whole world,
1663
01:08:09,660 --> 01:08:10,726
what would you wish for?
1664
01:08:10,726 --> 01:08:15,495
- For my family to be together
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hall the time.
1665
01:08:21,528 --> 01:08:23,000
You know, it’s hard not
\h\h\h\h\h\hto get sad
1666
01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:25,528
when he’s going out the door,
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hbut...
1667
01:08:25,528 --> 01:08:27,594
\h\h\h\hSorry.
[clears throat]
1668
01:08:28,528 --> 01:08:29,759
[exhales]
1669
01:08:29,759 --> 01:08:33,132
♪ ♪
1670
01:08:33,132 --> 01:08:39,000
\h\h\h[whispers]
I need a minute.
1671
01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:39,264
♪ ♪
1672
01:08:39,264 --> 01:08:43,462
- It’s hard to live with a man
\hthat has constant injuries.
1673
01:08:43,462 --> 01:08:48,726
\h\h\hOf course, they varied
from bruises to broken bones.
1674
01:08:48,726 --> 01:08:53,132
He never let on how bad
\h\h\h\hhe was hurting.
1675
01:08:53,132 --> 01:08:57,726
I would beg him to sit still
and recover from an injury.
1676
01:08:57,726 --> 01:08:58,726
Yes, yes, I would.
1677
01:08:58,726 --> 01:09:03,264
\h\h\h\hBut you cannot make Rod
do anything he doesn’t want to.
1678
01:09:03,264 --> 01:09:04,132
♪ ♪
1679
01:09:04,132 --> 01:09:07,264
- Dad was injured
\h90% of the time.
1680
01:09:07,264 --> 01:09:08,099
♪ ♪
1681
01:09:08,099 --> 01:09:10,132
\hSo when I say I had
to lace his boots up
1682
01:09:10,132 --> 01:09:11,528
since I was eight years old,
1683
01:09:11,528 --> 01:09:14,330
it’s because it physically
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hhurt him.
1684
01:09:15,528 --> 01:09:18,264
\h\h- He is sorely
outnumbered here.
1685
01:09:18,264 --> 01:09:22,264
- I remember the first time
\h\hthat I really felt, like,
1686
01:09:22,264 --> 01:09:23,462
wow, he is mortal.
1687
01:09:23,462 --> 01:09:27,099
- Hogan gives a whuppin’
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hon him.
1688
01:09:27,099 --> 01:09:30,264
- And truly hating Hogan.
1689
01:09:30,264 --> 01:09:31,363
[crowd cheering]
1690
01:09:31,363 --> 01:09:32,660
- They can’t hold him down!
1691
01:09:32,660 --> 01:09:36,363
- The hardest thing
\has a kid, for me,
1692
01:09:36,363 --> 01:09:37,726
was knowing your dad’s
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hinjuries.
1693
01:09:37,726 --> 01:09:39,396
- And he had just had
\ha hip replacement.
1694
01:09:39,396 --> 01:09:42,066
- Showing that scar there.
\h\h\h\h\hYou can see it.
1695
01:09:42,066 --> 01:09:44,066
\h\h\h\h\h- He had a scar
from the hip replacement.
1696
01:09:44,066 --> 01:09:47,132
Hulk Hogan took a chair
\h\h\h\hand hit my dad.
1697
01:09:47,132 --> 01:09:49,066
- Oh, no! No!
1698
01:09:49,066 --> 01:09:50,363
- He’s not supposed
\hto be wrestling.
1699
01:09:50,363 --> 01:09:53,132
We were told he might not
\h\h\h\heven walk again.
1700
01:09:53,132 --> 01:09:54,495
♪ ♪
1701
01:09:54,495 --> 01:09:57,528
\h\h\h- I just remember
breaking down in tears
1702
01:09:57,528 --> 01:10:00,759
because, for the first time,
\h\h\h\h\h\hit became real.
1703
01:10:00,759 --> 01:10:03,627
- Roddy! Roddy! Roddy!
1704
01:10:03,627 --> 01:10:04,660
- So at that point,
1705
01:10:04,660 --> 01:10:08,000
my parents stopped letting us
\h\h\h\h\h\hwatch altogether.
1706
01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:11,099
- When we had the inside
\hand the outside view,
1707
01:10:11,099 --> 01:10:12,726
it was really rough.
1708
01:10:12,726 --> 01:10:15,462
- I mean, he was just
\h\h\hin constant pain
1709
01:10:15,462 --> 01:10:17,528
and yet could work through it.
1710
01:10:17,528 --> 01:10:21,627
\h\h\h\h\hAs he got older,
he had a shoulder injury,
1711
01:10:21,627 --> 01:10:24,660
and his arm would just hang,
like, a couple inches lower
1712
01:10:24,660 --> 01:10:27,396
\h\h\h\h\hthan the other arm,
and he was probably like that
1713
01:10:27,396 --> 01:10:28,396
for a year or two.
1714
01:10:28,396 --> 01:10:29,363
It turned out his, like--
1715
01:10:29,363 --> 01:10:32,132
\h\h\h\hthey pulled out something
like five or six shattered bones
1716
01:10:32,132 --> 01:10:35,132
\h\h\h\hthat were just, like,
floating around his shoulder.
1717
01:10:35,132 --> 01:10:37,594
- It was kind of fascinating
1718
01:10:37,594 --> 01:10:40,396
for me to see him
behind the scenes
1719
01:10:40,396 --> 01:10:42,594
\hhaving a hard time
getting out of bed,
1720
01:10:42,594 --> 01:10:44,000
having a hard time walking,
1721
01:10:44,000 --> 01:10:46,528
and two hours later,
\h\hhe’s in the ring
1722
01:10:46,528 --> 01:10:49,132
and you’d never know
anything was wrong
1723
01:10:49,132 --> 01:10:50,231
because he loved it.
1724
01:10:50,231 --> 01:10:51,528
He loved putting on a show.
1725
01:10:51,528 --> 01:10:56,660
\h\h\hIt really was just two
completely different lives.
1726
01:10:56,660 --> 01:10:59,264
♪ ♪
1727
01:10:59,264 --> 01:11:04,000
- During the time of 2003
\hwhen Dad talked to HBO,
1728
01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:05,396
it was a dark time for Dad
1729
01:11:05,396 --> 01:11:07,627
in front of the camera
\h\h\h\h\hand at home.
1730
01:11:07,627 --> 01:11:09,660
- Everybody’s dead.
1731
01:11:09,660 --> 01:11:12,231
They’re all dying early,
1732
01:11:12,231 --> 01:11:15,330
and nobody cares about it.
1733
01:11:15,330 --> 01:11:17,528
- What the hell is he doing?
1734
01:11:17,528 --> 01:11:21,594
And what the hell is he saying?
\h\h\h\h\h\hIt’s like, really?
1735
01:11:21,594 --> 01:11:26,000
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- They take them
and they screw them up so much
1736
01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:30,132
and they being the rash
\h\h\h\h\hof promoters
1737
01:11:30,132 --> 01:11:32,000
that I’ve gone through
\h\h\hin the 33 years.
1738
01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:33,627
\h- And a lot of times
you lash out, you know,
1739
01:11:33,627 --> 01:11:37,198
and that’s what Roddy was
\hdoing was lashing out.
1740
01:11:37,198 --> 01:11:38,000
♪ ♪
1741
01:11:38,000 --> 01:11:42,132
\h- A lot of his friends
had started passing away,
1742
01:11:42,132 --> 01:11:45,264
\h\hand it makes you worry
and it makes you concerned,
1743
01:11:45,264 --> 01:11:49,198
and so that’s when he started
\h\h\h\hbeing vocal about it.
1744
01:11:49,198 --> 01:11:50,759
- I know he blamed the company
1745
01:11:50,759 --> 01:11:53,264
for just about everything
\h\h\hin the interviews,
1746
01:11:53,264 --> 01:11:56,594
\h\hbut at that time,
he had lost so much.
1747
01:11:56,594 --> 01:11:58,330
He wasn’t wrestling.
\h\h\h\hHe was hurt.
1748
01:11:58,330 --> 01:12:01,330
\h\h\h\h\hHe was just trying
to stand up for his buddies.
1749
01:12:01,330 --> 01:12:03,660
\hBut later on,
towards the end,
1750
01:12:03,660 --> 01:12:05,264
Dad had talked to me and,
\h\h\h\hyou know, he said,
1751
01:12:05,264 --> 01:12:08,528
"It’s the business we get into.
\hWe know what it is, you know.
1752
01:12:08,528 --> 01:12:11,000
\h"We don’t get in there
thinking we’re gonna live
1753
01:12:11,000 --> 01:12:12,198
to 70, 80 years old."
1754
01:12:12,198 --> 01:12:16,462
\h\h\h- What would you
have me do at 49 when,
1755
01:12:16,462 --> 01:12:19,264
\h\h\h\hlike, my pension plan,
I can’t take out until I’m 65.
1756
01:12:19,264 --> 01:12:22,627
\h\h\hI’m not gonna make 65.
Let’s just face facts, guys.
1757
01:12:22,627 --> 01:12:25,660
\h\h\h- When someone says really
rotten thing about your company,
1758
01:12:25,660 --> 01:12:29,000
\hyou know, you’re not gonna
welcome them with open arms.
1759
01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:33,264
\h\hYou know, you’re gonna say,
"Time for us to say good-bye."
1760
01:12:33,264 --> 01:12:34,528
♪ ♪
1761
01:12:34,528 --> 01:12:38,000
- He wasn’t expecting
\h\hthe consequences.
1762
01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:39,132
He lost a contract.
1763
01:12:39,132 --> 01:12:40,396
It was pretty bad
\h\hfor our family
1764
01:12:40,396 --> 01:12:42,066
\h\has far as, like,
our well-being goes.
1765
01:12:42,066 --> 01:12:46,000
I think he felt very lost,
\h\h\h\h\hvery depressed,
1766
01:12:46,000 --> 01:12:48,660
a little bit reckless
\h\hwith his behavior.
1767
01:12:48,660 --> 01:12:50,231
\h\h\h\h\h\hObviously,
with the HBO interview,
1768
01:12:50,231 --> 01:12:51,264
that’s a good example.
1769
01:12:51,264 --> 01:12:54,264
And, you know, I’ve talked
\habout him having demons,
1770
01:12:54,264 --> 01:12:56,495
and I think that this was
\hsort of like the height
1771
01:12:56,495 --> 01:13:00,132
\h\hof his demons coming out
was this period of his life.
1772
01:13:00,132 --> 01:13:04,495
♪ ♪
1773
01:13:04,495 --> 01:13:06,528
- Yeah, nothing’s permanent
\h\h\h\h\hin this business,
1774
01:13:06,528 --> 01:13:08,726
and as Piper’s been fired,
1775
01:13:08,726 --> 01:13:10,132
I’ve been fired a couple times.
1776
01:13:10,132 --> 01:13:11,396
You know, but things change
1777
01:13:11,396 --> 01:13:14,396
\h\h\hand, you know,
the president or...
1778
01:13:14,396 --> 01:13:16,264
\h\hOJ or somebody
will do something
1779
01:13:16,264 --> 01:13:18,099
\h\h\h\hthat takes precedent
over something that we did.
1780
01:13:18,099 --> 01:13:21,363
So I think Vince understands
\h\h\hthat he’s dealing with
1781
01:13:21,363 --> 01:13:24,264
\h\h\ha bunch of high,
intense personalities.
1782
01:13:24,264 --> 01:13:26,264
But Vince has been
\hpretty forgiving.
1783
01:13:26,264 --> 01:13:28,759
- Whoo! Ladies and gentlemen,
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hI give you--
1784
01:13:28,759 --> 01:13:33,462
I give you the most
gifted entertainer
1785
01:13:33,462 --> 01:13:38,000
\h\h\h\h\h\hin the history
of professional wrestling:
1786
01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:41,132
my man, the Hot Rod.
1787
01:13:41,132 --> 01:13:44,264
[playing bagpipe music]
1788
01:13:44,264 --> 01:13:45,528
- I think it was huge for him,
1789
01:13:45,528 --> 01:13:47,396
you know, ’cause his whole
\h\h\hlife was wrestling.
1790
01:13:47,396 --> 01:13:50,660
Even though wrestling
\h\his an exhibition,
1791
01:13:50,660 --> 01:13:53,396
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hfor us,
the Hall of Fame is real.
1792
01:13:53,396 --> 01:13:56,000
[crowd chanting "Roddy"]
1793
01:13:56,000 --> 01:13:58,660
Roddy! Roddy!
Roddy! Roddy!
1794
01:13:58,660 --> 01:13:59,627
♪ ♪
1795
01:13:59,627 --> 01:14:02,330
- I want to tell you this.
1796
01:14:03,528 --> 01:14:05,363
I love you s...
1797
01:14:05,363 --> 01:14:06,396
[chuckles]
1798
01:14:06,396 --> 01:14:07,528
[laughter]
1799
01:14:07,528 --> 01:14:10,198
I love you so much, man.
1800
01:14:10,198 --> 01:14:13,660
\h\h\hI love you so much,
but I guarantee you this:
1801
01:14:13,660 --> 01:14:19,396
\hmy name is Rowdy Roddy Piper,
and you ain’t seen nothing yet.
1802
01:14:29,264 --> 01:14:32,396
[solemn music]
1803
01:14:32,396 --> 01:14:36,132
♪ ♪
1804
01:14:36,132 --> 01:14:37,594
[pen scratching]
1805
01:14:37,594 --> 01:14:39,594
- You can find sympathy
\h\h\hin the dictionary
1806
01:14:39,594 --> 01:14:42,396
between [bleep] and suicide.
1807
01:14:42,396 --> 01:14:44,198
♪ ♪
1808
01:14:44,198 --> 01:14:46,066
- Roddy was definitely
\h\h\h\h\h\hdepressed
1809
01:14:46,066 --> 01:14:49,594
off and on during his life.
1810
01:14:49,594 --> 01:14:53,264
You know, you’re either up
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h100%
1811
01:14:53,264 --> 01:14:54,231
or you’re kind of down,
1812
01:14:54,231 --> 01:14:58,264
and it was always hard for him
\h\h\hto find the middle spot.
1813
01:14:58,528 --> 01:15:01,396
One of the demons was
that time in his life
1814
01:15:01,396 --> 01:15:05,396
as a teenager when he was
\hsurviving on the street.
1815
01:15:05,396 --> 01:15:07,330
He never let that go.
1816
01:15:07,330 --> 01:15:08,363
- I was so young.
1817
01:15:08,363 --> 01:15:11,396
\h\h\h\hI had to fight
for everything I had.
1818
01:15:11,396 --> 01:15:14,396
♪ ♪
1819
01:15:14,396 --> 01:15:16,000
Oh, man.
1820
01:15:16,000 --> 01:15:17,396
♪ ♪
1821
01:15:17,396 --> 01:15:19,396
- He told me some stuff
\h\habout his childhood
1822
01:15:19,396 --> 01:15:20,462
and living on the street.
1823
01:15:20,462 --> 01:15:23,198
He was in a bad spot
\hand used and abused
1824
01:15:23,198 --> 01:15:27,198
and just a lot of bad stuff
\h\h\h\hthat I had no idea.
1825
01:15:27,198 --> 01:15:27,759
♪ ♪
1826
01:15:27,759 --> 01:15:31,264
\h\h\h\h\h- Nobody--you know,
nobody feel sorry for me, man.
1827
01:15:31,264 --> 01:15:33,000
- You know, he had phoned me
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hfrom the road,
1828
01:15:33,000 --> 01:15:35,660
and he’d been in his hotel
\h\h\hroom for three days
1829
01:15:35,660 --> 01:15:37,000
with the lights off.
1830
01:15:37,000 --> 01:15:39,264
\h\h\h\h\hHe was depressed.
There was things on his mind
1831
01:15:39,264 --> 01:15:41,660
\h\hthat went back
to his childhood.
1832
01:15:41,660 --> 01:15:42,726
♪ ♪
1833
01:15:42,726 --> 01:15:46,660
\h\hHis mind went to spots
that weren’t good for him.
1834
01:15:46,660 --> 01:15:47,627
♪ ♪
1835
01:15:47,627 --> 01:15:51,495
- He still had that crumbling
\h\h\h\h\hpart inside his soul
1836
01:15:51,495 --> 01:15:53,528
that he could never mend.
1837
01:15:53,528 --> 01:15:55,132
He was so depressed at times,
1838
01:15:55,132 --> 01:15:59,363
I’m sure that he did
\h\hthink of suicide.
1839
01:15:59,363 --> 01:16:00,726
He wouldn’t follow through
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hwith it
1840
01:16:00,726 --> 01:16:02,330
because, as he would
be the first to say,
1841
01:16:02,330 --> 01:16:05,099
\h\h\h\h\h\hhe’s not a coward,
and that’s a coward’s way out.
1842
01:16:05,099 --> 01:16:10,363
But he was so sad at times
\h\h\h\h\h\hinside himself
1843
01:16:10,363 --> 01:16:13,396
\hthat I know that he did
think that occasionally,
1844
01:16:13,396 --> 01:16:15,528
and that’s heartbreaking.
1845
01:16:23,132 --> 01:16:24,132
- At 242 pounds,
1846
01:16:24,132 --> 01:16:27,594
\h\h\hthe Hot Rod,
Rowdy Roddy Piper.
1847
01:16:27,594 --> 01:16:30,660
[playing jaunty piano music]
1848
01:16:30,660 --> 01:16:33,495
\h\h\h\h- Hey, buddy!
- How you doing, pal?
1849
01:16:33,495 --> 01:16:35,396
\h\h\h\hYeah. Nice.
- Good to see you!
1850
01:16:35,396 --> 01:16:37,000
- Good to see you too.
\h\h\h\h\hBeen in jail.
1851
01:16:37,000 --> 01:16:39,264
\h\h\h\h- As he started
to wind down wrestling,
1852
01:16:39,264 --> 01:16:41,132
he really started to have fun
1853
01:16:41,132 --> 01:16:45,594
\hgoing into acting
as well as comedy.
1854
01:16:51,000 --> 01:16:51,660
[laughter]
1855
01:16:51,660 --> 01:16:54,000
\h\h- In a weird way,
I think it was a nice,
1856
01:16:54,000 --> 01:16:56,099
therapeutic thing
\hthat he realized
1857
01:16:56,099 --> 01:16:58,000
that just because he couldn’t
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hwrestle anymore
1858
01:16:58,000 --> 01:17:00,330
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hdidn’t mean
that he couldn’t perform.
1859
01:17:05,528 --> 01:17:07,000
[laughter]
1860
01:17:09,660 --> 01:17:11,264
- He enjoyed telling
\h\h\hthese stories,
1861
01:17:11,264 --> 01:17:12,528
he enjoyed connecting
\h\h\hwith his fans,
1862
01:17:12,528 --> 01:17:15,264
\hand that was something that
he was very passionate about.
1863
01:17:15,264 --> 01:17:19,198
- May all your dreams
come true. God bless you.
1864
01:17:19,198 --> 01:17:21,132
\h\h\h\h[applause]
- How cool is that?
1865
01:17:21,132 --> 01:17:23,660
Rowdy Roddy Piper!
1866
01:17:23,660 --> 01:17:26,132
January of 2009,
1867
01:17:26,132 --> 01:17:28,594
his manager reached out
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hand said,
1868
01:17:28,594 --> 01:17:30,132
"Would you have any interest
1869
01:17:30,132 --> 01:17:34,528
in helping Roddy cultivate
\h\ha stand-up comedy act?"
1870
01:17:34,528 --> 01:17:37,528
And I was like, "Absolutely."
1871
01:17:37,528 --> 01:17:38,594
Because here’s the thing:
1872
01:17:38,594 --> 01:17:41,099
when you watch pro wrestling
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hwith brothers,
1873
01:17:41,099 --> 01:17:42,198
that wasn’t even a TV show.
1874
01:17:42,198 --> 01:17:45,495
That was an instruction guide
\hon how to hurt each other.
1875
01:17:45,495 --> 01:17:46,462
That’s all it was.
1876
01:17:46,462 --> 01:17:51,264
I grew up the middle of three
boys in suburban Philadelphia
1877
01:17:51,264 --> 01:17:56,462
\h\hin really the Golden Age of
modern professional wrestling.
1878
01:17:56,462 --> 01:17:57,330
♪ ♪
1879
01:17:57,330 --> 01:18:01,528
I remember being a kid
\h\hwhen he showed up.
1880
01:18:01,528 --> 01:18:03,066
He was the worst.
1881
01:18:03,066 --> 01:18:04,132
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h[laughs]
Like, I remember being
1882
01:18:04,132 --> 01:18:07,132
\ha chubby 11-year-old kid
buying a T-shirt that said,
1883
01:18:07,132 --> 01:18:08,363
"I hate Rowdy Roddy Piper."
1884
01:18:08,363 --> 01:18:14,132
\h\h\hLike, he could get you
to yell at a television set.
1885
01:18:14,132 --> 01:18:15,330
♪ ♪
1886
01:18:15,330 --> 01:18:19,099
\h\h\h\hAnd meeting Roddy
was like meeting somebody
1887
01:18:19,099 --> 01:18:20,264
out of a comic book.
1888
01:18:20,264 --> 01:18:22,726
That began a really cool
\h\h\h\h\h\hrelationship
1889
01:18:22,726 --> 01:18:24,264
where I would just
listen to stories
1890
01:18:24,264 --> 01:18:30,528
and try to help him craft that
into some sort of cohesive act.
1891
01:18:35,660 --> 01:18:41,132
\h\h- As a comedian, I have a
unbelievable amount of respect
1892
01:18:41,132 --> 01:18:44,759
for somebody that can connect
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hwith audiences
1893
01:18:44,759 --> 01:18:46,000
on such a deep level.
1894
01:18:46,000 --> 01:18:48,594
That was his mutant ability.
1895
01:18:48,594 --> 01:18:51,099
- Like that power walking...
1896
01:18:51,099 --> 01:18:52,396
[laughter]
1897
01:18:52,396 --> 01:18:55,099
- I got to go through
Roddy’s life with him
1898
01:18:55,099 --> 01:18:56,066
on a comedic journey,
1899
01:18:56,066 --> 01:19:01,594
but hearing his life experience
\h\h\h\h\hwas just so amazing.
1900
01:19:05,627 --> 01:19:07,528
\h- Roddy’s darkness
is one of the things
1901
01:19:07,528 --> 01:19:09,627
\h\h\hthat drew him
to stand-up comedy.
1902
01:19:09,627 --> 01:19:13,330
[playing harmonica]
1903
01:19:13,396 --> 01:19:15,627
You can turn pain into joy,
1904
01:19:15,627 --> 01:19:21,000
and making people laugh
\h\hmeant a lot to him.
1905
01:19:21,000 --> 01:19:25,759
♪ ♪
1906
01:19:25,759 --> 01:19:27,396
- He is the WWE
\h\hHall of Famer
1907
01:19:27,396 --> 01:19:31,528
and one of the all-time greats,
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hRowdy Roddy Piper.
1908
01:19:31,528 --> 01:19:33,198
\h- When he would
get off the road,
1909
01:19:33,198 --> 01:19:35,528
he would be tired or hurt,
\h\h\h\hand he’d recover.
1910
01:19:35,528 --> 01:19:39,000
But there was never a time
\hthat he did an interview
1911
01:19:39,000 --> 01:19:41,726
\h\h\h\hor he got on camera
and he couldn’t turn it on.
1912
01:19:41,726 --> 01:19:43,726
- What was the question?
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h[laughs]
1913
01:19:43,726 --> 01:19:46,000
- This time was different.
1914
01:19:46,000 --> 01:19:47,396
He had this interview.
1915
01:19:47,396 --> 01:19:49,231
And he gets on and he’s, like,
1916
01:19:49,231 --> 01:19:50,660
can’t put his thoughts
\h\h\h\h\h\h\htogether.
1917
01:19:50,660 --> 01:19:54,396
- Nah, but--but what I don’t
\h\h\h\hthink is an honor...
1918
01:19:55,264 --> 01:19:57,396
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hUh...
Let me--let me try to do this.
1919
01:19:57,396 --> 01:19:59,660
- It’s one of those things
\hthat, as a family member,
1920
01:19:59,660 --> 01:20:02,099
when you know someone close
\h\h\h\h\hand you’re like,
1921
01:20:02,099 --> 01:20:03,264
"They’re being odd."
1922
01:20:03,264 --> 01:20:05,000
- I went into a--
excuse me.
1923
01:20:05,000 --> 01:20:08,528
I went into a Mexican...
uh, restaurant
1924
01:20:08,528 --> 01:20:11,627
with my youngest daughter,
who’s, uh...
1925
01:20:11,627 --> 01:20:14,264
- It was heartbreaking
1926
01:20:14,264 --> 01:20:16,396
because that was not
\h\h\hthe man I knew.
1927
01:20:16,396 --> 01:20:19,264
There was obvious problem
\h\h\h\h\h\hhe was having.
1928
01:20:19,264 --> 01:20:20,495
- I just think that...
1929
01:20:20,495 --> 01:20:25,528
\h- It was like the moment the
world knew something was wrong.
1930
01:20:25,528 --> 01:20:27,198
♪ ♪
1931
01:20:27,198 --> 01:20:31,264
And a few days later,
\h\h\hRoddy was home.
1932
01:20:31,264 --> 01:20:32,726
He was very tired that night.
1933
01:20:32,726 --> 01:20:35,264
\h\hWe were gonna go see
his doctor the next day.
1934
01:20:35,264 --> 01:20:37,396
We decided to do that.
1935
01:20:37,396 --> 01:20:39,066
And we went to bed
1936
01:20:39,066 --> 01:20:41,660
and he passed away
\h\h\hin his sleep.
1937
01:20:41,660 --> 01:20:43,000
♪ ♪
1938
01:20:43,000 --> 01:20:44,132
- His heart failed.
1939
01:20:44,132 --> 01:20:47,066
\hAs far as the specifics
as to what was causing it,
1940
01:20:47,066 --> 01:20:51,396
it probably was a combination
\h\h\h\h\hof his entire life.
1941
01:20:51,396 --> 01:20:52,330
♪ ♪
1942
01:20:52,330 --> 01:20:57,099
\h\h\h\h- I am so grateful
that he was home because,
1943
01:20:57,099 --> 01:20:58,528
even at that age,
1944
01:20:58,528 --> 01:21:03,264
\hso many days of the year,
he was gone away from home,
1945
01:21:03,264 --> 01:21:05,132
and he could have been alone.
1946
01:21:05,132 --> 01:21:06,594
\h\h\h\hSorry.
[clears throat]
1947
01:21:06,594 --> 01:21:10,660
And I’m just very grateful
\hthat he was home with me
1948
01:21:10,660 --> 01:21:12,330
when he passed.
1949
01:21:12,330 --> 01:21:15,660
♪ ♪
1950
01:21:15,660 --> 01:21:19,264
\h\h- You know, the news came
that he passed away, you know.
1951
01:21:19,264 --> 01:21:22,330
\hI felt like I got shot in the
chest with a cannon, you know.
1952
01:21:22,330 --> 01:21:26,627
And it kind of like knocked me
\h\hoff track for a couple days,
1953
01:21:26,627 --> 01:21:30,000
and now all of a sudden,
I get this voice message.
1954
01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:31,528
It was really weird
\h\hbecause either
1955
01:21:31,528 --> 01:21:32,594
my phone was messed up,
1956
01:21:32,594 --> 01:21:35,462
\h\h\h\hsometimes you’ll get
a text message at that night
1957
01:21:35,462 --> 01:21:38,000
when it was sent to you
\h\h\h\hin the morning.
1958
01:21:47,099 --> 01:21:48,231
- That really spooked me out.
1959
01:21:48,231 --> 01:21:51,132
\h\hLike, hmm, alien thing, you
know, like "Close Encounters."
1960
01:21:51,132 --> 01:21:54,396
\h\hIt was just crazy to get
a voice message from somebody
1961
01:21:54,396 --> 01:21:57,000
\h\h\h\hafter they passed away,
and especially for him to say,
1962
01:21:57,000 --> 01:21:59,363
"I’m loving you and walking
\h\hwith Jesus, my brother.
1963
01:21:59,363 --> 01:22:01,528
\h\h\h\h\hJust loving you
and walking with Jesus."
1964
01:22:01,528 --> 01:22:03,660
I was like, "Wow."
1965
01:22:03,660 --> 01:22:06,264
Totally screwed me up.
1966
01:22:08,330 --> 01:22:11,528
[wistful music]
1967
01:22:11,528 --> 01:22:17,627
♪ ♪
1968
01:22:17,627 --> 01:22:19,594
- All right, guys.
1969
01:22:21,726 --> 01:22:25,396
[overlapping chatter]
1970
01:22:26,627 --> 01:22:28,066
- It is.
1971
01:22:37,066 --> 01:22:39,099
- Hey, nice to see you again.
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hHow are you?
1972
01:22:39,099 --> 01:22:41,132
- So good to see you.
\h\h\h\h\hOh, my God.
1973
01:22:41,132 --> 01:22:42,462
When I first started doing MMA,
1974
01:22:42,462 --> 01:22:43,759
I was trying to think
\h\hof a fight name,
1975
01:22:43,759 --> 01:22:46,132
and, of course, the first thing
\h\h\hthat everybody thought of
1976
01:22:46,132 --> 01:22:48,000
was like, "What do you think
\h\h\h\h\h\has a fight name?"
1977
01:22:48,000 --> 01:22:49,264
\h\h\h\h"Well, Rowdy.
Rowdy Ronda Rousey."
1978
01:22:49,264 --> 01:22:50,660
Like, I know, but it’s like
\h\h\h\hRowdy Roddy Piper.
1979
01:22:50,660 --> 01:22:52,330
\h\h\h\hAnd he has that.
I don’t want to steal it
1980
01:22:52,330 --> 01:22:57,528
until I happened to see
\hthe original rowdy one
1981
01:22:57,528 --> 01:22:59,627
and got his blessing
1982
01:22:59,627 --> 01:23:01,198
and, yeah, he was very
\h\h\h\hsweet about it.
1983
01:23:01,198 --> 01:23:03,264
He was like, "Yeah, sure, kid.
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hNo problem.
1984
01:23:03,264 --> 01:23:05,528
Better do the name proud."
\h\hOr something like that.
1985
01:23:05,528 --> 01:23:07,099
I don’t know.
\h\h[laughs]
1986
01:23:07,099 --> 01:23:09,264
- And then Kitty, my mom.
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Hi.
1987
01:23:09,264 --> 01:23:16,396
♪ ♪
1988
01:23:29,462 --> 01:23:30,594
No one can do it better.
1989
01:23:30,594 --> 01:23:32,198
- [laughs]
Thank you so much.
1990
01:23:32,198 --> 01:23:33,264
Thank you so, so much.
1991
01:23:33,264 --> 01:23:36,528
- He was a loner and a wolf,
1992
01:23:36,528 --> 01:23:41,396
and he was often
\hmisunderstood.
1993
01:23:42,363 --> 01:23:45,132
- I was so wild,
1994
01:23:45,132 --> 01:23:46,726
scary wild.
1995
01:23:46,726 --> 01:23:50,363
- But he was always 100%
\h\h\h\h\hin your face.
1996
01:23:50,363 --> 01:23:54,726
\h\h- You do not throw rocks at
a man who’s got a machine gun!
1997
01:23:54,726 --> 01:23:58,066
- This is what you get.
\h\h\h\h\hI am who I am.
1998
01:23:58,066 --> 01:24:00,660
- What you got here
\h\h\h\his all man.
1999
01:24:00,660 --> 01:24:02,660
- He didn’t change
\h\h\hfor anybody.
2000
01:24:02,660 --> 01:24:05,594
- We are the most popular
wrestlers in the entire world.
2001
01:24:05,594 --> 01:24:09,660
- I haven’t found anyone
that has what Roddy had.
2002
01:24:10,594 --> 01:24:12,132
Loved life.
2003
01:24:12,132 --> 01:24:13,627
Lived it to its max.
2004
01:24:13,627 --> 01:24:14,330
- Ya-ha!
2005
01:24:14,330 --> 01:24:18,396
- He came in spitting fire
\h\h\hand crapping thunder.
2006
01:24:18,594 --> 01:24:21,264
- I’m not afraid
\h\h\h\h\hof nobody--
2007
01:24:21,264 --> 01:24:23,132
♪ ♪
2008
01:24:23,132 --> 01:24:24,231
- I am the legend killer.
2009
01:24:24,231 --> 01:24:26,627
- He started with so little
\h\h\hand ended with so much
2010
01:24:26,627 --> 01:24:30,396
\h\h\hand had every hardship
thrown at him along the way.
2011
01:24:30,396 --> 01:24:31,627
That’s my dad’s legacy.
2012
01:24:31,627 --> 01:24:33,462
\h\h\h\h\hI hope it is one
that gives people strength.
2013
01:24:33,462 --> 01:24:37,396
- I still hear new stories
\habout him all the time,
2014
01:24:37,396 --> 01:24:40,594
and I realize how lucky I am
\h\h\h\h\h\hto have a father
2015
01:24:40,594 --> 01:24:44,528
\h\h\h\h\h\hthat has impacted
so many people in the world.
2016
01:24:44,528 --> 01:24:47,264
♪ ♪
2017
01:24:47,264 --> 01:24:49,264
- Best part of my job:
2018
01:24:49,264 --> 01:24:53,528
when you come with your daddy
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hand your mommy,
2019
01:24:53,528 --> 01:24:55,528
and you’re all excited and...
2020
01:24:57,495 --> 01:25:02,396
\h\h\hWe can put a smile
on a little boy’s face.
2021
01:25:03,627 --> 01:25:05,000
That’s the greatest reward
2022
01:25:05,000 --> 01:25:07,627
a guy can ever have
\h\h\h\hin his life.
2023
01:25:08,660 --> 01:25:10,396
Thank you.
2024
01:25:10,396 --> 01:25:12,132
I love you too.
2025
01:25:12,132 --> 01:25:16,396
♪ ♪
2026
01:25:16,396 --> 01:25:18,495
- I have come here
2027
01:25:18,495 --> 01:25:19,462
to chew bubble gum.
2028
01:25:19,462 --> 01:25:23,726
- I have come here to chew
\hbubble gum and kick butt.
2029
01:25:23,726 --> 01:25:26,363
\h\h\h- And I’m all
out of bubble gum.
2030
01:25:26,363 --> 01:25:28,000
- And I’m all out
\hof bubble gum.
2031
01:25:28,000 --> 01:25:30,330
\h- Just when they think
they have the answers...
2032
01:25:30,330 --> 01:25:33,396
- Just when they think they
\h\h\h\hhave the answers...
2033
01:25:33,396 --> 01:25:35,198
- I change the questions.
2034
01:25:35,198 --> 01:25:37,099
\h\h- I change
the questions.
2035
01:25:37,099 --> 01:25:39,495
- You do not throw rocks...
2036
01:25:39,495 --> 01:25:41,462
- You do not throw rocks
2037
01:25:41,462 --> 01:25:45,528
at a man with a machine gun,
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hbrother.
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