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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,660 --> 00:00:02,627 - Take my phone? \h\h\h\h\h- Sure. 2 00:00:04,660 --> 00:00:06,495 - Roddy. 3 00:00:07,198 --> 00:00:08,660 Yeah, I’m doing great. \h\h\h\h\hHow are you? 4 00:00:08,660 --> 00:00:12,330 \h\hWe’re just getting ready to do an interview about you. 5 00:00:13,231 --> 00:00:15,660 A little warm down there, huh? 6 00:00:15,660 --> 00:00:17,363 You what? 7 00:00:18,627 --> 00:00:21,231 Yeah, not anytime soon, \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hthough. 8 00:00:21,231 --> 00:00:23,363 You’re holding a place for me. 9 00:00:23,363 --> 00:00:26,000 \hRight next to you at the table, huh? 10 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:27,396 Great. 11 00:00:27,396 --> 00:00:29,726 No, I...no, I’m just gonna \h\h\h\h\h\htalk about you, 12 00:00:29,726 --> 00:00:32,660 \h\h\hall good things, not to worry about it. 13 00:00:32,660 --> 00:00:34,132 Great. 14 00:00:34,132 --> 00:00:35,495 Thanks, Roddy. 15 00:00:39,396 --> 00:00:42,132 \hRoddy’s in heaven. Roddy’s not in hell. 16 00:00:42,132 --> 00:00:44,462 ♪ ♪ 17 00:00:44,462 --> 00:00:45,660 - We’ll check you down there, guys. 18 00:00:45,660 --> 00:00:47,264 We’ll check you down there. 19 00:00:47,264 --> 00:00:51,132 ♪ ♪ 20 00:00:51,132 --> 00:00:58,264 - Rowdy Ronda Rousey! 21 00:00:58,660 --> 00:01:00,000 [no audible dialogue] 22 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:02,660 \h\h\h\h- Coming to the WWE, I really wanted to make sure 23 00:01:02,660 --> 00:01:06,066 \hthat every single time that I walked out there, 24 00:01:06,066 --> 00:01:07,528 \heveryone remembered "Rowdy" Roddy Piper. 25 00:01:07,528 --> 00:01:12,528 Rowdy is the only name I could have taken on. 26 00:01:12,528 --> 00:01:15,132 \hI wanted to make sure that that next generation of kids 27 00:01:15,132 --> 00:01:17,660 \h\h\h\hknew who he was and respected his memory 28 00:01:17,660 --> 00:01:21,462 and what he’s contributed \h\h\h\h\hto the business. 29 00:01:22,132 --> 00:01:23,132 - When I ran into Piper, 30 00:01:23,132 --> 00:01:26,462 \hhe’s the one that made everything else possible. 31 00:01:26,462 --> 00:01:29,264 \h\h\hHe was the key, the cog in the wheel. 32 00:01:29,264 --> 00:01:31,495 \h\h\h\h\h\h\hWithout Piper, we could have never launched 33 00:01:31,495 --> 00:01:32,462 into the stratosphere. 34 00:01:32,462 --> 00:01:33,627 - It’s as simple as this. 35 00:01:33,627 --> 00:01:36,594 When RP talks, brother, \h\h\h\h\hpeople listen. 36 00:01:36,594 --> 00:01:38,363 - He was the ultimate bad guy. 37 00:01:38,363 --> 00:01:40,264 - How you doing, fatso? 38 00:01:40,264 --> 00:01:41,660 - He sold it. He practiced it. 39 00:01:41,660 --> 00:01:43,396 He was good at what he did. 40 00:01:43,396 --> 00:01:44,132 ♪ ♪ 41 00:01:44,132 --> 00:01:47,528 - Just when they think \hthey got the answers, 42 00:01:47,528 --> 00:01:48,660 I change the questions. 43 00:01:48,660 --> 00:01:51,528 - Even if you had never heard \h\h\h\h\h\h\hof Roddy Piper, 44 00:01:51,528 --> 00:01:54,066 \h\h\h\h\hyou could tell you didn’t like this guy. 45 00:01:54,066 --> 00:01:55,132 - Nobody messes with Piper! 46 00:01:55,132 --> 00:01:58,231 \h\h\h\h\h\h\h- He was riveting. - I seen a lot of men buried... 47 00:01:58,231 --> 00:02:00,627 - A really good-hearted guy, 48 00:02:00,627 --> 00:02:03,132 a really tough son of a bitch. 49 00:02:03,132 --> 00:02:06,528 \h- He was not like any other wrestler. 50 00:02:06,528 --> 00:02:08,132 He was in his own world, 51 00:02:08,132 --> 00:02:09,660 real strong family man. 52 00:02:09,660 --> 00:02:14,000 \h\h\h\h\h- He kept his family completely out of the business, 53 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:18,396 \h\h\hand I think he took too much of it on himself. 54 00:02:18,396 --> 00:02:19,132 - Yeah! 55 00:02:19,132 --> 00:02:21,000 - Everything he did \h\hfrom the moment 56 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:22,759 he walked out in the ring \h\h\hrubbed people wrong. 57 00:02:22,759 --> 00:02:24,198 - You’re gonna see something 58 00:02:24,198 --> 00:02:26,330 \h\h\hyou never seen in your life before. 59 00:02:26,330 --> 00:02:29,495 \h\h\h\h- Whatever it was, he went against the grain, 60 00:02:29,495 --> 00:02:32,264 and he just lived \hin that glory. 61 00:02:32,264 --> 00:02:35,528 ♪ ♪ 62 00:02:35,528 --> 00:02:39,132 [droning bagpipe music] 63 00:02:39,132 --> 00:02:43,264 ♪ ♪ 64 00:02:49,099 --> 00:02:52,132 - You know, God takes care \h\h\hof fools and babies. 65 00:02:52,132 --> 00:02:53,396 ♪ ♪ 66 00:02:53,396 --> 00:02:58,528 Before I was a pro wrestler, I got hit by a pickup truck. 67 00:02:58,528 --> 00:03:01,396 \h\h\h\h\h\h\hI was lived in an Indian reservation. 68 00:03:01,396 --> 00:03:05,528 \h\h\h\h\h\hI had tonsillitis, so they took out my appendix. 69 00:03:05,528 --> 00:03:07,396 I moved a lot. 70 00:03:07,396 --> 00:03:10,396 I got hurt a lot as a little kid. 71 00:03:10,396 --> 00:03:11,594 ♪ ♪ 72 00:03:11,594 --> 00:03:15,132 - My dad, Roddy Piper, he was born in Canada 73 00:03:15,132 --> 00:03:17,396 \h\h\hin a place called Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, 74 00:03:17,396 --> 00:03:21,759 which is one of the coldest \h\h\h\hplaces in the world. 75 00:03:21,759 --> 00:03:23,132 He used to tell me, you know, 76 00:03:23,132 --> 00:03:25,528 the story of running uphill \h\h\hboth ways to school, 77 00:03:25,528 --> 00:03:28,396 \h\hright, in the snow? He actually did that. 78 00:03:28,396 --> 00:03:29,231 ♪ ♪ 79 00:03:29,231 --> 00:03:31,726 \hHis dad was a police officer that worked for the railroad, 80 00:03:31,726 --> 00:03:34,363 \h\h\h\h\hand this meant that they traveled 24/7. 81 00:03:34,363 --> 00:03:38,000 \h\hThey would spend a week in one town, a week in the next. 82 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:39,660 \h\h\hI think he was about 10 years old. 83 00:03:39,660 --> 00:03:43,660 He was on a Indian reservation \h\h\h\hfor about six months, 84 00:03:43,660 --> 00:03:46,132 and he’s the only \hwhite kid on it. 85 00:03:46,132 --> 00:03:47,132 Everybody else is Indian, 86 00:03:47,132 --> 00:03:49,000 \h\h\hand they don’t like white people at the time, 87 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,363 \hso he had to learn how to fight his way through 88 00:03:51,363 --> 00:03:52,495 and get their respect. 89 00:03:52,495 --> 00:03:56,066 \h\h\h\h\hSo every few months, no matter where he was going, 90 00:03:56,066 --> 00:03:57,264 he would have to start over, 91 00:03:57,264 --> 00:03:59,660 build his reputation, \hand be the tough guy 92 00:03:59,660 --> 00:04:00,726 so he wouldn’t get hurt. 93 00:04:00,726 --> 00:04:03,264 He would go out and get in trouble and come home 94 00:04:03,264 --> 00:04:08,264 \h\h\hand face all kinds of physical punishment. 95 00:04:08,264 --> 00:04:09,231 [somber music] 96 00:04:09,231 --> 00:04:13,132 \h\h\h- It was a hard Victorian upbringing, 97 00:04:13,132 --> 00:04:14,396 very strict. 98 00:04:14,396 --> 00:04:16,363 Being the youngest, 99 00:04:16,363 --> 00:04:17,528 he always kind of felt like 100 00:04:17,528 --> 00:04:19,528 he was an afterthought \h\h\h\h\hin his family 101 00:04:19,528 --> 00:04:21,363 is what he would tell me. 102 00:04:21,363 --> 00:04:23,396 Like, he wasn’t expected. 103 00:04:23,396 --> 00:04:25,099 Not a lot of hugs. 104 00:04:25,099 --> 00:04:27,627 Not a lot of verbal \h\h\h"I love yous." 105 00:04:27,627 --> 00:04:31,330 - My grandpa did beat my dad. \h\h\hI don’t know how often, 106 00:04:31,330 --> 00:04:33,231 but he was physical enough \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hwith him 107 00:04:33,231 --> 00:04:35,099 that it was a dark place 108 00:04:35,099 --> 00:04:37,264 that my dad never really wanted \h\h\h\hto talk about with us. 109 00:04:37,264 --> 00:04:43,330 - You’re 12, 11, 10 years old. \h\h\h\h\h\hYou move 10 times. 110 00:04:43,330 --> 00:04:45,660 \h\h\hAll of a sudden, you get into a fight, 111 00:04:45,660 --> 00:04:47,660 \hand you come back home and you get into a fight 112 00:04:47,660 --> 00:04:49,264 because you got into a fight. 113 00:04:49,264 --> 00:04:51,000 You know, it’s... 114 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,363 ♪ ♪ 115 00:04:53,363 --> 00:04:57,264 I don’t think that punishment, 116 00:04:57,264 --> 00:05:01,264 \h\hphysical punishment, is a way to raise a kid. 117 00:05:01,264 --> 00:05:03,660 None of it goes on \hin my house ever. 118 00:05:03,660 --> 00:05:08,132 - There was a lot of trauma \h\h\h\h\hin his childhood, 119 00:05:08,132 --> 00:05:10,660 and it followed him. 120 00:05:10,660 --> 00:05:12,396 \h\hHe seemed like the kind of person 121 00:05:12,396 --> 00:05:16,066 \h\hthat always had a demon or something on his shoulder 122 00:05:16,066 --> 00:05:17,132 and that he was fighting with 123 00:05:17,132 --> 00:05:20,099 and I think that that started \h\hat a very, very young age 124 00:05:20,099 --> 00:05:21,660 long before wrestling. 125 00:05:21,660 --> 00:05:23,594 [bagpipe music] 126 00:05:23,594 --> 00:05:26,264 - I got into my bagpipes \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\ha lot, 127 00:05:26,264 --> 00:05:30,495 and it kind of pulled me away \h\h\h\h\h\h\hfrom everybody. 128 00:05:31,495 --> 00:05:32,495 I don’t know how, 129 00:05:32,495 --> 00:05:35,264 but that’s where I started, \h\hwhen I was six years old 130 00:05:35,264 --> 00:05:37,000 playing the bagpipes. 131 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:40,099 It was a place for me to go. \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hIt was loud. 132 00:05:40,099 --> 00:05:42,726 \h\hPeople knew, don’t interrupt. 133 00:05:42,726 --> 00:05:47,264 It actually became a hideaway for me. 134 00:05:47,264 --> 00:05:48,396 ♪ ♪ 135 00:05:48,396 --> 00:05:50,330 - One day I was in my house, 136 00:05:50,330 --> 00:05:52,726 and there was a knock \h\h\hat my back door. 137 00:05:52,726 --> 00:05:58,132 \h\h\hAnd there was two friends of mine with this new guy, Rod. 138 00:05:58,132 --> 00:06:00,132 And so they said to me, 139 00:06:00,132 --> 00:06:01,759 "Cam, you’re a pretty \h\h\h\h\h\htough guy, 140 00:06:01,759 --> 00:06:05,066 \h"and this new guy, Rod, he’s a pretty tough guy. 141 00:06:05,066 --> 00:06:06,660 Why don’t you have a fight?" 142 00:06:06,660 --> 00:06:08,594 I said, "Sure." 143 00:06:08,594 --> 00:06:10,099 And we went at it. 144 00:06:10,099 --> 00:06:12,660 \h\hLike in the movies, he drilled me a good one 145 00:06:12,660 --> 00:06:15,264 and I flew overtop of my motorcycle. 146 00:06:15,264 --> 00:06:17,264 And he won the fight. 147 00:06:17,264 --> 00:06:19,462 As I found out later, \h\hRod told me he was 148 00:06:19,462 --> 00:06:23,066 the light heavyweight boxing \h\h\h\h\hchamp of Toronto. 149 00:06:23,066 --> 00:06:27,396 And from that point on, we became best friends. 150 00:06:27,396 --> 00:06:30,627 He was a high school wrestler, 151 00:06:30,627 --> 00:06:32,528 and he was number two \h\h\h\h\hin the city. 152 00:06:32,528 --> 00:06:36,396 \h\hThat was his goal was to be a wrestler. 153 00:06:36,396 --> 00:06:39,495 - And the day he did \h\hgraduate school, 154 00:06:39,495 --> 00:06:40,627 he finally did leave home. 155 00:06:40,627 --> 00:06:43,660 \hHe would have liked a better relationship with his father. 156 00:06:43,660 --> 00:06:46,396 You know, that was \h\heating him up. 157 00:06:46,396 --> 00:06:49,396 As Rod became a young adult, \h\h\hit just became too much 158 00:06:49,396 --> 00:06:50,660 \h’cause Rod wanted to get rough back, 159 00:06:50,660 --> 00:06:54,000 but the only other choice would \h\hbe to have an all-out brawl 160 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:55,396 with your father. 161 00:06:55,396 --> 00:06:56,231 ♪ ♪ 162 00:06:56,231 --> 00:07:00,627 \h\h\h\h\h\hHe left home and was out on his own. 163 00:07:00,627 --> 00:07:02,000 - It was just time to go, 164 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:05,396 \h\h\hso I took my bagpipes and I just never went back. 165 00:07:05,396 --> 00:07:06,660 - He was really a nomad. 166 00:07:06,660 --> 00:07:11,000 He went to youth hostels, \h\h\h\h\hYMCAs, anywhere. 167 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:11,660 Usually back then, 168 00:07:11,660 --> 00:07:13,495 five bucks for the night \h\hand you could do it. 169 00:07:13,495 --> 00:07:14,726 Or you’d get there \hand it’d be full, 170 00:07:14,726 --> 00:07:17,132 \h\h\h\h\hso you would be on the street that night. 171 00:07:17,132 --> 00:07:18,396 - I had to make money, 172 00:07:18,396 --> 00:07:20,759 and so played my bagpipes \h\h\hand I’d get quarters 173 00:07:20,759 --> 00:07:22,264 or whatever they give me. 174 00:07:22,264 --> 00:07:24,000 You sleep during the day. 175 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,099 \h\hIt’s too dangerous to sleep at nighttime. 176 00:07:26,099 --> 00:07:28,726 At nighttime, you get cold, \h\h\h\h\h\hyou get hungry, 177 00:07:28,726 --> 00:07:30,330 and so you start \hto try to feed 178 00:07:30,330 --> 00:07:31,660 some of these necessities. 179 00:07:31,660 --> 00:07:33,528 I started stealing \h\hwhat I needed 180 00:07:33,528 --> 00:07:36,132 \h\h\h\h\h\h\hand then got with a group of bad guys. 181 00:07:36,132 --> 00:07:38,759 \h\h\h\h\hAnd all of a sudden, you’re carrying a switchblade, 182 00:07:38,759 --> 00:07:40,627 \h\h\hand--you know, and then the fights. 183 00:07:40,627 --> 00:07:45,264 \h\h\hNow I was getting off on this bully type of thing, 184 00:07:45,264 --> 00:07:46,264 which I hated. 185 00:07:46,264 --> 00:07:49,231 - He was beaten up. He was made fun of. 186 00:07:49,231 --> 00:07:50,660 Half of those beatings \h\h\h\h\hwere because 187 00:07:50,660 --> 00:07:52,660 \hsomebody was trying to sexually abuse him, 188 00:07:52,660 --> 00:07:53,627 and you fight back. 189 00:07:53,627 --> 00:07:57,330 \h- You know, I think he did a little robbery here and there, 190 00:07:57,330 --> 00:07:59,198 and he was terribly \h\hashamed of it. 191 00:07:59,198 --> 00:08:01,528 It was a brief part \h\h\hof his life. 192 00:08:01,528 --> 00:08:03,726 He also would fight. 193 00:08:03,726 --> 00:08:06,726 People would pay to see him \h\h\h\hfight on the street. 194 00:08:06,726 --> 00:08:09,264 Doing whatever it takes \h\h\h\h\h\hto survive. 195 00:08:09,264 --> 00:08:11,660 \h\h- I was living in a youth hostel. 196 00:08:11,660 --> 00:08:14,132 \hFather O’Malley, you know, he says, 197 00:08:14,132 --> 00:08:15,264 "You know, Roderick, 198 00:08:15,264 --> 00:08:17,330 \h\h\hhave you ever seen professional wrestling?" 199 00:08:17,330 --> 00:08:18,330 I said, "No, sir." 200 00:08:18,330 --> 00:08:20,231 He says, "I can get you $25." 201 00:08:20,231 --> 00:08:23,000 Whew! You know, that was, like, three months’ rent. 202 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:24,363 - He was 15 years old 203 00:08:24,363 --> 00:08:26,066 \h\h\h\hwhen he had his first professional fight 204 00:08:26,066 --> 00:08:28,132 \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hagainst Larry "The Axe" Hennig. 205 00:08:28,132 --> 00:08:29,528 - Larry Hennig 206 00:08:29,528 --> 00:08:31,264 coming into the ring \h\hat this time... 207 00:08:31,264 --> 00:08:34,000 - You know, Rod, he knew that he needed an angle. 208 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:35,396 I don’t believe at that time 209 00:08:35,396 --> 00:08:38,198 \hhe’d come up with Rowdy Roddy Piper. 210 00:08:38,198 --> 00:08:42,132 His name was Rod Toombs, so he went by that name. 211 00:08:42,132 --> 00:08:43,264 [playing bagpipe music] 212 00:08:43,264 --> 00:08:44,660 \h\h\hI don’t know how many wrestlers 213 00:08:44,660 --> 00:08:46,627 can play the bagpipes \h\h\h\hand has kilt. 214 00:08:46,627 --> 00:08:49,264 And so that’s what he did 215 00:08:49,264 --> 00:08:50,660 to distinguish himself 216 00:08:50,660 --> 00:08:52,528 \hbased on the talent that he actually had. 217 00:08:52,528 --> 00:08:55,759 - The announcer, he just knew my name was Roddy. 218 00:08:55,759 --> 00:08:58,396 He had to announce something, \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hand he says, 219 00:08:58,396 --> 00:09:01,264 "Ladies and gentlemen \h\h\h\hhere comes... 220 00:09:01,264 --> 00:09:02,627 ♪ ♪ 221 00:09:02,627 --> 00:09:03,726 Roddy the Piper." 222 00:09:03,726 --> 00:09:05,330 \h\h\h\h- He was just naturally good at it, 223 00:09:05,330 --> 00:09:09,132 \h\h\hand then that evolved into his wrestling career, 224 00:09:09,132 --> 00:09:12,627 \hsince it was a special skill that he could use as a gimmick. 225 00:09:12,627 --> 00:09:15,132 People would stand up and say... 226 00:09:15,132 --> 00:09:17,000 you know, and yell at him. 227 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:18,330 That was his goal 228 00:09:18,330 --> 00:09:20,330 was to get people pissed off at him, 229 00:09:20,330 --> 00:09:22,198 so they’re going to look \h\h\h\hin the program: 230 00:09:22,198 --> 00:09:23,132 "Who is this guy?" 231 00:09:23,132 --> 00:09:24,627 - My nose was broke, you know? 232 00:09:24,627 --> 00:09:27,396 And Larry only hit me twice, \h\h\hbut he did a good job. 233 00:09:27,396 --> 00:09:29,000 My eye was drooping, \h\h\h\hand he says, 234 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:30,528 "Kid, how’d you like to go \h\h\h\h\hto Kansas City?" 235 00:09:30,528 --> 00:09:33,231 And that’s how I got into pro wrestling, 236 00:09:33,231 --> 00:09:34,759 and I never stopped. 237 00:09:35,132 --> 00:09:37,264 - He knew that there was going \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hto be many days 238 00:09:37,264 --> 00:09:40,396 \h\hthat he didn’t know where the next paycheck was coming, 239 00:09:40,396 --> 00:09:44,000 \h\h\hand so he just threw himself at it. 240 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,000 \h\hThat took him all across Canada 241 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,099 and then into the States, 242 00:09:48,099 --> 00:09:50,000 \h\h\hjust wherever he could get a job. 243 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:53,660 - When wrestling came along, \h\h\hthat’s why I just boom! 244 00:09:53,660 --> 00:09:59,462 \h\h\hBecause it had all the elements without the police. 245 00:09:59,462 --> 00:10:01,198 - There were more \h\hthan two dozen 246 00:10:01,198 --> 00:10:03,495 wrestling territories \h\hin North America, 247 00:10:03,495 --> 00:10:07,660 \h\h\h\hso that meant that guys could make a living uprooting, 248 00:10:07,660 --> 00:10:09,627 going from territory \h\h\h\hto territory. 249 00:10:09,627 --> 00:10:12,132 - I’m so fortunate to have wrestling 250 00:10:12,132 --> 00:10:13,264 and the way it evolved. 251 00:10:13,264 --> 00:10:16,264 \h\h\h\hIf it hadn’t, I would’ve been dead. 252 00:10:16,264 --> 00:10:18,363 There’s no doubt about it. 253 00:10:19,264 --> 00:10:22,396 I’ve got a baby face \h\h\hthat looks 12, 254 00:10:22,396 --> 00:10:24,594 \h\h\hin a dress, playing bagpipes, 255 00:10:24,594 --> 00:10:27,231 and they just beat me up. 256 00:10:27,231 --> 00:10:28,660 - So when you’re just getting in, 257 00:10:28,660 --> 00:10:30,396 \h\hyou’re breaking into pro wrestling, 258 00:10:30,396 --> 00:10:31,528 what do you do? 259 00:10:31,528 --> 00:10:32,462 They beat you up, 260 00:10:32,462 --> 00:10:34,726 and you have to continuously get up and keep coming back. 261 00:10:34,726 --> 00:10:39,264 - I got my first break \h\h\hin Los Angeles, 262 00:10:39,264 --> 00:10:40,759 and holy cow. 263 00:10:40,759 --> 00:10:45,264 Really, really brutal, \h\h\h\h\hbrutal days. 264 00:10:48,495 --> 00:10:50,528 - Roddy came into the gym. 265 00:10:50,528 --> 00:10:53,198 I says, "What are you doing?" 266 00:10:53,198 --> 00:10:55,627 "You gonna sweep up \h\h\h\hthe place, 267 00:10:55,627 --> 00:10:58,759 or sell hot doggies, \hchicken on a bun?" 268 00:10:58,759 --> 00:11:01,363 He says, "No, I’m a wrestler." 269 00:11:01,363 --> 00:11:05,396 \h\hAnd I says, "You look like you got polio in your stomach, 270 00:11:05,396 --> 00:11:06,231 "you’re so small. 271 00:11:06,231 --> 00:11:09,396 \h\h\h\h"You’ll never make it. You got to learn how to wrestle 272 00:11:09,396 --> 00:11:12,594 \h\h\h\hso you can be a sadistic bastard." 273 00:11:12,594 --> 00:11:14,363 - We’re gonna see things \h\h\hthat are different, 274 00:11:14,363 --> 00:11:18,528 that’s never been seen before, \h\h\h\hever, ever on any film. 275 00:11:18,528 --> 00:11:19,627 ♪ ♪ 276 00:11:19,627 --> 00:11:24,000 Don’t practice this without \h\h\ha qualified instructor 277 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:26,000 right there with you. 278 00:11:26,066 --> 00:11:29,660 - Judo Gene--if you don’t \h\h\hknow, look him up-- 279 00:11:29,660 --> 00:11:32,198 was the toughest man \h\h\hin the world, 280 00:11:32,198 --> 00:11:36,000 trained Bruce Lee, \h\hChuck Norris, 281 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:38,264 Rowdy Ronda Rousey. 282 00:11:38,264 --> 00:11:40,495 \h\h- Gene LeBell I would consider 283 00:11:40,495 --> 00:11:43,627 the most decorated stuntman \h\h\h\h\h\h\hof all time. 284 00:11:43,627 --> 00:11:49,198 He was in the first-ever \h\htelevised MMA event. 285 00:11:49,198 --> 00:11:51,660 \hWhen I was doing judo, he would help me a lot. 286 00:11:51,660 --> 00:11:53,099 And then when I got in to MMA, 287 00:11:53,099 --> 00:11:56,462 he was in my corner for, like, \h\h\h\h\hevery single match. 288 00:11:56,462 --> 00:11:59,726 - Judo Gene saw that these \h\hguys were bullying me, 289 00:11:59,726 --> 00:12:02,396 and Gene would tell me what to do on the fly. 290 00:12:02,396 --> 00:12:05,528 \h\h\h\h- You got to beat them with the dark side of the moon. 291 00:12:05,528 --> 00:12:08,528 Roddy said, "What’s the dark \h\h\h\h\hside of the moon?" 292 00:12:08,528 --> 00:12:13,000 \h\h\h"Well, what the referee doesn’t see, didn’t happen." 293 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:14,198 \h\hWatch you don’t take the eyes out. 294 00:12:14,198 --> 00:12:17,660 \h\h\hThis is the throat. Throat’s a great handle. 295 00:12:17,660 --> 00:12:18,462 - [yells] 296 00:12:18,462 --> 00:12:20,660 - He’d call me late at night. 297 00:12:20,660 --> 00:12:22,495 And my wife said, 298 00:12:22,495 --> 00:12:25,330 "Hey, it must be Roddy \h\h\h\hcalling again." 299 00:12:25,330 --> 00:12:29,132 \hSo he says, "Hey, let’s go and roll for a couple hours." 300 00:12:29,132 --> 00:12:33,660 We worked out hard, \hno playing games. 301 00:12:33,660 --> 00:12:36,627 He wanted to know \hhow to wrestle. 302 00:12:37,099 --> 00:12:38,594 - The LeBell family is... 303 00:12:38,594 --> 00:12:39,660 they’re legendary. 304 00:12:39,660 --> 00:12:41,330 \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hThey ran the Olympic Auditorium, 305 00:12:41,330 --> 00:12:43,396 \h\h\h\h\hand because Dad had earned their respect, 306 00:12:43,396 --> 00:12:46,528 he was able then to wrestle \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hthere in LA 307 00:12:46,528 --> 00:12:48,330 for the LeBell family, 308 00:12:48,330 --> 00:12:49,495 and that is really where Dad 309 00:12:49,495 --> 00:12:51,396 \h\hgot the chance to spread his wings 310 00:12:51,396 --> 00:12:54,396 \h\h\h\hand really become not just another fighter 311 00:12:54,396 --> 00:12:57,396 but the one they came to see. 312 00:12:57,396 --> 00:13:03,726 ♪ ♪ 313 00:13:03,726 --> 00:13:06,132 - One of my favorite memories \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hwith him 314 00:13:06,132 --> 00:13:08,528 is when I was, like, 15. 315 00:13:08,528 --> 00:13:11,000 He brought me to LA \hto see Hollywood, 316 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:14,132 and I wanted to be an actress \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hand a singer. 317 00:13:14,132 --> 00:13:16,066 \h\h\h\h\h\hAnd so, to me, Hollywood was like, "Whoo!" 318 00:13:16,066 --> 00:13:19,198 \h\h\hMarilyn Monroe handprints, and the glamour and all of that. 319 00:13:19,198 --> 00:13:22,198 \h\hAnd we get here and he rents a car, 320 00:13:22,198 --> 00:13:23,330 he’s like, "All right, kid, 321 00:13:23,330 --> 00:13:26,000 I’m gonna take you \h\h\haround town." 322 00:13:26,264 --> 00:13:28,528 First thing he does is, \h\h\hhe goes somewhere 323 00:13:28,528 --> 00:13:30,627 into, like, the Compton, \h\h\h\h\h\hmaybe, area. 324 00:13:30,627 --> 00:13:32,528 I was a little young \h\h\hto understand 325 00:13:32,528 --> 00:13:33,660 what I was looking at. 326 00:13:33,660 --> 00:13:34,495 And he was like, 327 00:13:34,495 --> 00:13:36,528 "That’s where your father \h\hslept on the streets. 328 00:13:36,528 --> 00:13:40,528 \h"A woman got murdered right outside my window, 329 00:13:40,528 --> 00:13:43,000 but I didn’t say anything, \h’cause I’m not a snitch." 330 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:47,594 \hHe’s just telling me these horrific stories. 331 00:13:48,264 --> 00:13:51,495 So then I come home from that vacation. 332 00:13:51,495 --> 00:13:53,099 My friends asked me, \h\h\hthey’re like, 333 00:13:53,099 --> 00:13:54,627 "How’s Hollywood?" And they were like, 334 00:13:54,627 --> 00:13:55,726 "Did you see this and that?" 335 00:13:55,726 --> 00:13:59,396 I was like, "I think I got \h\h\hthe wrestlers’ tour." 336 00:13:59,396 --> 00:14:01,066 [laughs] 337 00:14:01,495 --> 00:14:05,132 [upbeat Spanish guitar music] 338 00:14:05,132 --> 00:14:09,462 ♪ ♪ 339 00:14:09,462 --> 00:14:12,231 - I was born and grew up \h\h\h\hin Los Angeles, 340 00:14:12,231 --> 00:14:14,000 and some of my earliest memories that I have 341 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:15,495 \h\h\h\h\hare actually about professional wrestling, 342 00:14:15,495 --> 00:14:17,594 being a professional \h\h\hwrestling fan. 343 00:14:17,594 --> 00:14:19,099 I remember going down on the bus, 344 00:14:19,099 --> 00:14:21,528 running with my stepfather, \h\h\htrying to catch a bus 345 00:14:21,528 --> 00:14:23,198 \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hto go down to the Olympic Auditorium. 346 00:14:23,198 --> 00:14:26,528 In 1976, one of the new faces \h\h\h\h\h\h\hin the territory 347 00:14:26,528 --> 00:14:29,363 \h\h\h\h\h\hwas a young lad by the name of Roddy Piper. 348 00:14:29,363 --> 00:14:32,198 He was 21 years old. 349 00:14:32,198 --> 00:14:34,132 He was a young, fresh-faced kid. 350 00:14:34,132 --> 00:14:37,660 \hFans gave him polite applause. 351 00:14:38,396 --> 00:14:41,726 They start wrestling, and it starts out as a clean match. 352 00:14:41,726 --> 00:14:44,396 But little by little, subtly, 353 00:14:44,396 --> 00:14:48,660 he starts doing these things that only a villain would do. 354 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:50,726 He was fighting, 355 00:14:50,726 --> 00:14:52,462 and he was giving people \h\h\hkicks to the groin 356 00:14:52,462 --> 00:14:54,396 during his wrestling matches. 357 00:14:54,396 --> 00:14:56,396 ♪ ♪ 358 00:14:56,396 --> 00:14:59,462 It was like watching \h\h\h\ha caterpillar 359 00:14:59,462 --> 00:15:00,594 transform into a butterfly, 360 00:15:00,594 --> 00:15:05,264 and you just saw this magic happening before your eyes. 361 00:15:05,264 --> 00:15:07,132 People were booing \h\h\hRoddy Piper. 362 00:15:07,132 --> 00:15:10,231 They absolutely hated \h\h\h\h\hwho he was. 363 00:15:10,231 --> 00:15:11,198 - I am the intelligence. 364 00:15:11,198 --> 00:15:13,627 I think the most controversial \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hthing I did 365 00:15:13,627 --> 00:15:15,264 was stir up controversy 366 00:15:15,264 --> 00:15:17,132 because it draws money. 367 00:15:17,132 --> 00:15:18,660 Conflict draws money. 368 00:15:18,660 --> 00:15:22,066 - The wheels were always turning for him as to what can I say, 369 00:15:22,066 --> 00:15:23,066 what can I do next? 370 00:15:23,066 --> 00:15:25,000 \h\h\h\h\h’cause you had to keep them interested. 371 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:27,000 You had to keep them \h\h\h\hcoming back. 372 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:29,264 - There’s no way, Piper! \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Hey! 373 00:15:29,264 --> 00:15:30,363 \h\h\h\h- Oh! - Hey! Piper! 374 00:15:30,363 --> 00:15:32,000 - Get up, you think \h\h\hyou’re so tough! 375 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:34,231 \h\h\h\h\h- Anything he did, he wanted to be good at it. 376 00:15:34,231 --> 00:15:36,396 - I don’t plan to go in there \h\h\h\h\h\hand make it easy. 377 00:15:36,396 --> 00:15:38,759 I don’t plan to go in there \hand not have some knocks 378 00:15:38,759 --> 00:15:40,264 on my own noggin, brother. 379 00:15:40,264 --> 00:15:42,396 - And they used him to do the interviews 380 00:15:42,396 --> 00:15:49,264 \h\h\h\h\h\hbecause he would showboat and help sell boletos, tickets. 381 00:15:49,264 --> 00:15:51,099 - You’re a pig, \h\h\h\h\h\hGuerrero! 382 00:15:51,099 --> 00:15:53,363 Your father was a pig, 383 00:15:53,363 --> 00:15:55,066 your brother was a pig, 384 00:15:55,066 --> 00:15:56,231 and you’re a pig, Guerrero! 385 00:15:56,231 --> 00:16:00,066 \h\h\h\h- The Guerrero family was one of the first families 386 00:16:00,066 --> 00:16:02,099 in professional wrestling. 387 00:16:02,099 --> 00:16:03,132 If you’re of Latino descent, 388 00:16:03,132 --> 00:16:06,759 \h\h\h\hyou didn’t really see a lot of faces on television 389 00:16:06,759 --> 00:16:07,660 that were like yours. 390 00:16:07,660 --> 00:16:10,495 \hAnd usually if you did, they played the roles of a gardener, 391 00:16:10,495 --> 00:16:12,099 or they played the role \h\h\h\h\h\hof a maid. 392 00:16:12,099 --> 00:16:18,660 So for us to see the Guerrero \h\h\h\h\hfamily in hero roles 393 00:16:18,660 --> 00:16:20,759 was very important. 394 00:16:20,759 --> 00:16:22,330 We worshiped them. 395 00:16:22,330 --> 00:16:23,660 - You get in that ring, \h\h\h\hChavo Guerrero, 396 00:16:23,660 --> 00:16:25,396 \h\h\hand it’s going to be all over for you, brother, 397 00:16:25,396 --> 00:16:27,264 because I don’t give a damn \h\habout nothing no more. 398 00:16:27,264 --> 00:16:29,726 \h\h\h\h\h- When Roddy Piper would insult the Guerreros, 399 00:16:29,726 --> 00:16:31,528 we took it very personally. 400 00:16:31,528 --> 00:16:34,462 - You sitting at home with your fat bellies 401 00:16:34,462 --> 00:16:37,495 and your construction boots \h\h\h\hdrinking your beer, 402 00:16:37,495 --> 00:16:38,594 you know who I am. 403 00:16:38,594 --> 00:16:41,396 - Roddy really had the whole package. 404 00:16:41,396 --> 00:16:43,066 \h\h\h\h\h\hIn the ring, he was a dirty wrestler, 405 00:16:43,066 --> 00:16:45,462 \h\h\h\hbut he had all this tremendous frenetic energy. 406 00:16:45,462 --> 00:16:49,198 But also, he knew how to get \ha reaction out of the fans, 407 00:16:49,198 --> 00:16:50,594 and one of the ways \hhe would do that 408 00:16:50,594 --> 00:16:53,198 was to bring his bagpipes \h\h\h\h\hout to the ring. 409 00:16:53,198 --> 00:16:54,132 [playing off-key] 410 00:16:54,132 --> 00:16:56,000 - One time, he told everybody 411 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,759 \h\h\hand silenced the entire stadium, 412 00:16:58,759 --> 00:17:01,198 he’d play the Mexican \h\h\hnational anthem 413 00:17:01,198 --> 00:17:04,396 to apologize for attacking \h\h\h\h\h\hthe Guerreros. 414 00:17:04,396 --> 00:17:08,000 - I said, "You know, \hI love you people. 415 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:11,726 \h\h\hI’d like to do something special." 416 00:17:11,726 --> 00:17:12,594 [crowd booing] 417 00:17:12,594 --> 00:17:17,000 \hAnd all the wonderful Hispanic people came in. 418 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:18,099 I’m in the ring. 419 00:17:18,099 --> 00:17:26,066 \h\h\h\hAnd, "Please stand for the Mexican national anthem." 420 00:17:27,066 --> 00:17:31,660 [whispering] Just like this \h\h\h\h\hI said to myself, 421 00:17:31,660 --> 00:17:33,726 "I’m gonna die." 422 00:17:33,726 --> 00:17:36,528 I put those bagpipes up, man. 423 00:17:36,528 --> 00:17:38,264 It’s too late, right? 424 00:17:38,264 --> 00:17:40,132 - And Roddy starts playing his notes, 425 00:17:40,132 --> 00:17:42,264 and it’s not the Mexican \h\h\h\hnational anthem. 426 00:17:42,264 --> 00:17:44,462 But he starts playing \h\h\h"La Cucaracha." 427 00:17:44,462 --> 00:17:46,363 He starts playing a song \h\h\habout a cockroach. 428 00:17:46,363 --> 00:17:50,066 [playing "La Cucaracha" \h\h\h\h\h\hon bagpipes] 429 00:17:50,066 --> 00:17:51,759 ♪ ♪ 430 00:17:51,759 --> 00:17:55,198 ♪ La cucaracha, la cucaracha ♪ 431 00:17:55,198 --> 00:17:55,759 [hums] 432 00:17:55,759 --> 00:18:00,396 Holy cow, chairs that were bolted down in the cement, 433 00:18:00,396 --> 00:18:03,132 here they come. 434 00:18:03,132 --> 00:18:04,396 - And the fans... 435 00:18:04,396 --> 00:18:06,660 ♪ ♪ 436 00:18:06,660 --> 00:18:07,627 They’re just shocked. 437 00:18:07,627 --> 00:18:10,528 \h\h\h\h- Chairs come up. Things are being thrown. 438 00:18:10,528 --> 00:18:11,594 Stage is being overcome. 439 00:18:11,594 --> 00:18:14,528 \h\h\h- It was like watching... watching a car wreck, you know? 440 00:18:14,528 --> 00:18:16,660 It’s a horrible thing to see, \h\h\h\hbut at the same time, 441 00:18:16,660 --> 00:18:18,396 you can’t take your eyes \h\h\h\h\h\haway from it. 442 00:18:18,396 --> 00:18:21,132 - I was there that night, 443 00:18:21,132 --> 00:18:23,462 and I was going to... 444 00:18:23,462 --> 00:18:24,726 whiz in my pants. 445 00:18:24,726 --> 00:18:27,099 \h- You can’t write that kind of stuff. 446 00:18:27,099 --> 00:18:30,132 \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- I says, "This guy is a natural." 447 00:18:30,132 --> 00:18:34,462 ♪ ♪ 448 00:18:40,594 --> 00:18:45,330 - You had to move around, \hespecially as a bad guy. 449 00:18:45,330 --> 00:18:46,660 You would run your course, 450 00:18:46,660 --> 00:18:51,660 and then you needed to go on and find another place to go 451 00:18:51,660 --> 00:18:53,528 and stake your claim \h\h\h\h\hfor a while 452 00:18:53,528 --> 00:18:56,264 and then you would move on \h\h\h\h\h\hsomewhere else. 453 00:18:56,264 --> 00:18:58,759 - I am extremely pleased 454 00:18:58,759 --> 00:19:02,264 to take my wonderful trophy. 455 00:19:02,264 --> 00:19:05,396 - Once I left Los Angeles, \hwhen I went to Portland, 456 00:19:05,396 --> 00:19:06,495 nobody knew who I was, 457 00:19:06,495 --> 00:19:09,000 so you had to start \h\hall over again. 458 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:12,198 [hopeful music] 459 00:19:12,198 --> 00:19:17,594 ♪ ♪ 460 00:19:23,627 --> 00:19:25,099 Did you find the choke? \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Yeah. 461 00:19:25,099 --> 00:19:29,660 - Okay, kick the engine over, leaving the throttle closed. 462 00:19:29,660 --> 00:19:34,132 \h\h\h\hIt’s probably just new. It needs--takes a lot of kicks. 463 00:19:34,132 --> 00:19:35,132 - Yeah. 464 00:19:35,132 --> 00:19:37,132 - I met Roddy in 1979. 465 00:19:37,132 --> 00:19:41,066 I was working graveyard shift \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\has a waitress 466 00:19:41,066 --> 00:19:43,264 just southwest side \h\h\h\hof Portland. 467 00:19:43,264 --> 00:19:45,000 - Get you something out there. 468 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,726 - Roderick, you’re lucky \h\hI had it high enough 469 00:19:47,726 --> 00:19:50,396 that that didn’t show. \h\h\h\h\h\h- [laughs] 470 00:19:50,396 --> 00:19:54,231 \h\h- He was the funniest human being on the planet. 471 00:19:54,231 --> 00:19:57,000 \h[snickers] - Is that it? 472 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:57,594 - Oh, the guy... 473 00:19:57,594 --> 00:20:02,132 \h\hall the wrinkles on my face are from him making me laugh. 474 00:20:02,132 --> 00:20:04,264 \h\h\h\hI was young, I was 19 years old, 475 00:20:04,264 --> 00:20:07,000 \hand so all the other waitresses would say, 476 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:09,099 \h\h\h\h"You go wait on those wrestlers." 477 00:20:09,099 --> 00:20:10,264 Prime rib was always \h\h\h\hwhat he got. 478 00:20:10,264 --> 00:20:14,660 \hHe ordered two prime ribs and always two pieces of lemon pie. 479 00:20:14,660 --> 00:20:16,660 He started asking me, 480 00:20:16,660 --> 00:20:18,264 \h"Hey, can I have your phone number? 481 00:20:18,264 --> 00:20:20,396 I’d like to ask you out." 482 00:20:20,759 --> 00:20:23,660 I thought he was cute as heck. \h\h\hThought he cute as heck. 483 00:20:23,660 --> 00:20:27,231 \h\hBut the crowd he was with was so loud, and so I’m like, 484 00:20:27,231 --> 00:20:29,660 "Nah, you know. \hHey, hi, hi." 485 00:20:29,660 --> 00:20:32,627 \h\hSo we kind of flirted, but after about a month, 486 00:20:32,627 --> 00:20:35,099 his tag-team partner, \h\h\h\hKiller Brooks, 487 00:20:35,099 --> 00:20:36,660 got down on his knees \h\h\h\h\hand he says, 488 00:20:36,660 --> 00:20:38,198 \h"Please give him your phone number. 489 00:20:38,198 --> 00:20:39,264 "I’m his tag-team partner, 490 00:20:39,264 --> 00:20:41,363 \h\h\h"and I’m getting beat to heck out there 491 00:20:41,363 --> 00:20:43,726 "because he’s only thinking about you. 492 00:20:43,726 --> 00:20:45,099 He wants to get to know you." 493 00:20:45,099 --> 00:20:48,000 So I said, "Okay, I’ll take \h\h\h\hhis phone number." 494 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:51,132 And then we hit it off. 495 00:20:52,396 --> 00:20:56,231 ♪ ♪ 496 00:20:56,231 --> 00:20:57,264 Portland wrestling 497 00:20:57,264 --> 00:21:00,660 \hin the late ’70s, early ’80s was huge. 498 00:21:00,660 --> 00:21:03,066 \h\h\hThe buildings were always packed. 499 00:21:03,066 --> 00:21:05,066 \h\h\hFrom the moment I started dating him, 500 00:21:05,066 --> 00:21:07,396 \hanywhere we would go, people knew who he was. 501 00:21:07,396 --> 00:21:10,594 \hEveryone pretty much had the same reaction. 502 00:21:10,594 --> 00:21:11,660 They were shocked, 503 00:21:11,660 --> 00:21:12,759 but after they met him, 504 00:21:12,759 --> 00:21:18,132 \hthey all understood that he was a genuine guy and caring. 505 00:21:18,132 --> 00:21:20,231 - You come down here and burn your bra 506 00:21:20,231 --> 00:21:21,198 and think you’re something? 507 00:21:21,198 --> 00:21:22,594 You’re getting in there with men... 508 00:21:22,594 --> 00:21:24,660 - And to have to do something 509 00:21:24,660 --> 00:21:27,330 like when he attacked \h\ha woman wrestler, 510 00:21:27,330 --> 00:21:29,264 he has to do it over the top 511 00:21:29,264 --> 00:21:31,528 because it’s so hard \h\h\hfor him to do. 512 00:21:31,528 --> 00:21:35,132 - This is why men wrestle and why women don’t! 513 00:21:35,132 --> 00:21:37,264 \hThis is why! Get outta here! 514 00:21:37,264 --> 00:21:38,495 Get outta here! \h\hThat’s why! 515 00:21:38,495 --> 00:21:43,726 - For Roddy in real life, a woman is on a pedestal. 516 00:21:43,726 --> 00:21:45,000 ♪ ♪ 517 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:46,495 He’s very old-fashioned. 518 00:21:46,495 --> 00:21:48,099 He would never hit a woman. 519 00:21:48,099 --> 00:21:51,396 \hHe would never insult a woman. 520 00:21:51,396 --> 00:21:53,627 And I decided early on, 521 00:21:53,627 --> 00:21:56,396 I was gonna love Roddy \h\h\hno matter what. 522 00:21:56,396 --> 00:21:58,000 I did and I do 523 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:02,000 and wouldn’t change it \h\h\h\hfor the world. 524 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:10,231 ♪ ♪ 525 00:22:10,231 --> 00:22:13,759 \h\h\h\h\h\h\h- In Portland, it was a smaller territory. 526 00:22:13,759 --> 00:22:16,660 \h\h\h\h\h\h\hIn Atlanta, the business was growing. 527 00:22:16,660 --> 00:22:17,726 You had to move around, 528 00:22:17,726 --> 00:22:22,396 and you had to be able to go from territory to territory. 529 00:22:22,396 --> 00:22:25,264 \h\h\hThat’s the way that the business worked at the time. 530 00:22:25,264 --> 00:22:27,495 \h- They called me on the East Coast. 531 00:22:27,495 --> 00:22:31,264 I was ready at any time to get up and take a left-hand turn. 532 00:22:31,264 --> 00:22:33,759 And I drove the old \h\h\hyellow canary 533 00:22:33,759 --> 00:22:36,132 right across the country. 534 00:22:36,132 --> 00:22:39,759 [upbeat rock music] 535 00:22:39,759 --> 00:22:42,726 - WTBS in Atlanta, Georgia, 536 00:22:42,726 --> 00:22:45,396 Ted Turner’s superstation, 537 00:22:45,396 --> 00:22:48,396 wrestling was a staple. 538 00:22:49,396 --> 00:22:51,000 Here’s Roddy Piper. 539 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:55,000 Very few people knew who he \h\hwas on a national basis. 540 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,495 He wasn’t the biggest guy \h\h\h\h\h\hin the world, 541 00:22:57,495 --> 00:22:59,363 but the one thing that he did 542 00:22:59,363 --> 00:23:01,660 better than anybody else \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hwas talk. 543 00:23:01,660 --> 00:23:04,264 \h- It’s a pleasure for you to have me here, I’m sure. 544 00:23:04,264 --> 00:23:06,264 You see, being the expert \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hthat I am... 545 00:23:06,264 --> 00:23:11,396 - The promoters realized Roddy \h\hknew how to tell a story, 546 00:23:11,396 --> 00:23:16,000 \h\hnot just his own story, but other people’s stories. 547 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:17,660 - People want to get \h\hfamiliar with me. 548 00:23:17,660 --> 00:23:19,099 People like yourself... 549 00:23:19,099 --> 00:23:20,660 - He was brought in \h\h\has Rod Piper, 550 00:23:20,660 --> 00:23:22,660 the color commentator: 551 00:23:22,660 --> 00:23:24,726 sport coat, no kilt, 552 00:23:24,726 --> 00:23:30,627 and then the color commentator \h\hbegan to skew his views... 553 00:23:30,627 --> 00:23:33,132 - You got a big, \hbig, big mouth. 554 00:23:33,132 --> 00:23:35,264 - If they let a bald-headed geek like you in... 555 00:23:35,264 --> 00:23:37,462 - Maybe a little bit \h\h\hmore nasty... 556 00:23:37,462 --> 00:23:39,330 - You just stay out of my way, \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hpig face! 557 00:23:39,330 --> 00:23:43,000 - Maybe a little bit more against the fan favorites. 558 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,660 \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- And you won’t have to worry about nothing, man. 559 00:23:45,660 --> 00:23:46,726 - Pig face? 560 00:23:46,726 --> 00:23:51,000 - And they created another way 561 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,132 to get this character over. 562 00:23:53,132 --> 00:23:55,330 - They say stick and stones may break my bones 563 00:23:55,330 --> 00:23:56,396 but words will never hurt me. 564 00:23:56,396 --> 00:23:58,759 Well, some of the words he says about me and my family 565 00:23:58,759 --> 00:23:59,660 have hurt me deeply. 566 00:23:59,660 --> 00:24:02,132 \h- Sticks and stones may break your bones. 567 00:24:02,132 --> 00:24:03,198 You are right! 568 00:24:03,198 --> 00:24:06,759 \h\h\h\hAnd I’m nuts enough to throw sticks and stones! 569 00:24:06,759 --> 00:24:08,528 - Now you’ve got, 570 00:24:08,528 --> 00:24:11,396 \h\h\h\h\h"I’m gonna kick that commentator’s butt." 571 00:24:11,396 --> 00:24:13,000 - Piper into the ring. 572 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,000 \h\h\h- The commentator was a wrestler and a tough guy. 573 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,594 \h- As he gets through the ropes, and they go at it! 574 00:24:17,594 --> 00:24:19,726 - Now he comes out \h\hwith the kilt. 575 00:24:19,726 --> 00:24:21,660 - The wild man, Roddy Piper. 576 00:24:21,660 --> 00:24:22,759 - Now he’s Roddy Piper. 577 00:24:22,759 --> 00:24:25,726 - Roddy Piper, the only way \h\h\hthat he’s really been 578 00:24:25,726 --> 00:24:29,231 outstanding in this match is his bad sportsmanship. 579 00:24:29,231 --> 00:24:33,264 They’re trying to literally carry Piper out of the ring. 580 00:24:33,264 --> 00:24:35,000 - I told you Piper pays back! 581 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:38,396 \h\hI told you, nobody-- nobody messes with Piper! 582 00:24:38,396 --> 00:24:40,594 - When he wrestles \h\has a bad guy, 583 00:24:40,594 --> 00:24:42,627 that was the most comfortable \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hfor him. 584 00:24:42,627 --> 00:24:45,759 - Come out here right now and fight me like a man! 585 00:24:45,759 --> 00:24:47,396 \h\h\hCome right now! - If you’re a bad guy, 586 00:24:47,396 --> 00:24:51,363 \hfans aren’t gonna come up and shake your hand as much. 587 00:24:51,363 --> 00:24:54,231 He could be alone more \h\hif he was a bad guy. 588 00:24:54,231 --> 00:24:59,066 Maybe because he was alone in life early on so often, 589 00:24:59,066 --> 00:25:00,660 that’s where he was \h\h\h\hcomfortable. 590 00:25:00,660 --> 00:25:02,660 \h\h\h\h\h- Piper has hit him with his fist. 591 00:25:02,660 --> 00:25:05,132 He hit him in the jaw with a roll of coins. 592 00:25:05,132 --> 00:25:09,330 \h- As a kid, he was around some of the roughest people 593 00:25:09,330 --> 00:25:10,495 you can imagine. \h- It’s mine! 594 00:25:10,495 --> 00:25:12,000 - And sometimes I wonder \h\h\h\h\hif that’s part 595 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:16,594 \hof what pieced together that bad guy psychology that he had. 596 00:25:16,594 --> 00:25:20,000 - I am the legend killer. 597 00:25:20,330 --> 00:25:21,330 [pen scratching] 598 00:25:21,330 --> 00:25:22,462 - So my dad did \h\hthis thing. 599 00:25:22,462 --> 00:25:25,099 \h\h\h\hThere were these yellow legal pads that he would write. 600 00:25:25,099 --> 00:25:27,363 \h\h\hHe would write all kinds of ideas. 601 00:25:27,363 --> 00:25:29,726 - Just in case he had \h\h\hthe opportunity 602 00:25:29,726 --> 00:25:31,132 that a mic was handed to him 603 00:25:31,132 --> 00:25:32,660 so that he had something \h\h\h\h\h\hgreat to say. 604 00:25:32,660 --> 00:25:34,264 - You know, you couldn’t \h\h\h\h\h\h\hget a date 605 00:25:34,264 --> 00:25:36,528 \hwith a $100 bill on your forehead. 606 00:25:36,528 --> 00:25:38,000 I wouldn’t fight you 607 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:41,000 if my grandma was threatened \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hby the Huns. 608 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,000 Sometimes maybe I heard it 609 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:44,396 \h\h\h\h\hin the middle of a rock and roll song. 610 00:25:44,396 --> 00:25:49,231 I just had a knack for putting that kind of stuff together. 611 00:25:49,231 --> 00:25:51,264 Of course, I don’t have \h\hto impress somebody. 612 00:25:51,264 --> 00:25:52,264 They got to impress me, 613 00:25:52,264 --> 00:25:54,198 because I’m Roddy Piper \h\h\h\hand you’re not. 614 00:25:54,198 --> 00:25:55,660 \h\h\h\h- And that’s why he was so quick-witted, 615 00:25:55,660 --> 00:25:57,396 because he put in work \h\h\hnobody else did. 616 00:25:57,396 --> 00:26:01,132 When everybody else was partying and drinking, which he did, 617 00:26:01,132 --> 00:26:03,660 he also was thinking and writing these things down. 618 00:26:03,660 --> 00:26:05,264 - Like, sometimes people say to me, 619 00:26:05,264 --> 00:26:07,594 "Oh, you just say what comes \hoff the top of your head." 620 00:26:07,594 --> 00:26:10,099 Oh, [bleep] horse[bleep]. 621 00:26:10,099 --> 00:26:10,528 [scoffs] 622 00:26:10,528 --> 00:26:14,000 \h\h\h\h\hYou have no idea how much work went into it. 623 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:17,594 I seen a lot of men buried wearing a $50 Stetson 624 00:26:17,594 --> 00:26:20,759 and carrying a five-buck gun, you geek. 625 00:26:20,759 --> 00:26:22,264 - Whoo-whoo! 626 00:26:22,264 --> 00:26:23,231 [dramatic music] 627 00:26:23,231 --> 00:26:25,594 \h\h- There was a guy named Ric Flair on the East Coast. 628 00:26:25,594 --> 00:26:29,396 \h\h\h\h\h\h- The greatest wrestling in the whole entire wide world 629 00:26:29,396 --> 00:26:31,396 \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hcomes right out of the Mid-Atlantic area, 630 00:26:31,396 --> 00:26:34,264 \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hand Roddy Piper and I are glad to be here, brother. 631 00:26:34,264 --> 00:26:35,660 - Ric and I were so different. 632 00:26:35,660 --> 00:26:37,594 You know, I wear a kilt. \h\h\h\h\h\hRic doesn’t. 633 00:26:37,594 --> 00:26:41,132 He’s blond. I ain’t. \h\h\h\h\hYou know? 634 00:26:41,132 --> 00:26:44,231 That we got along real well \h\h\h\h\houtside the ring, 635 00:26:44,231 --> 00:26:47,396 \h\h\h\h\hand then everything started to get out of control. 636 00:26:47,396 --> 00:26:50,000 \h- Piper and Flair have formed a pact, 637 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,528 and where there’s trouble, \hwe won’t be hard to find. 638 00:26:53,528 --> 00:26:54,528 - He’s got a belt. 639 00:26:54,528 --> 00:26:56,264 \h\h\h\h\h- Well, I knew-- yeah, I’d heard his name, 640 00:26:56,264 --> 00:26:58,660 \hbut I didn’t know anything about him. 641 00:26:58,660 --> 00:27:00,528 He came in the studio, 642 00:27:00,528 --> 00:27:02,132 and I knew right away I was gonna like him. 643 00:27:02,132 --> 00:27:06,066 \hHe was full of himself, and, man, I mean, talent. 644 00:27:06,066 --> 00:27:07,462 - Ric Flair, Roddy Piper! 645 00:27:07,462 --> 00:27:09,198 That’s what it’s all about! 646 00:27:09,198 --> 00:27:10,726 \h\hThat’s what it’s all about! 647 00:27:10,726 --> 00:27:12,528 - God, he was entertaining. 648 00:27:12,528 --> 00:27:15,000 \h\h\h\h\h\hIt was so good that it made everybody mad. 649 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:19,495 - You’re gonna find it’s a whole lot easier to jump on 650 00:27:19,495 --> 00:27:21,132 than it is to jump off. 651 00:27:21,132 --> 00:27:22,660 - Whoo! 652 00:27:23,363 --> 00:27:26,330 \h\h\h- I had moved over there to the East Coast with Roddy, 653 00:27:26,330 --> 00:27:29,759 and we were expecting \h\h\hour first child. 654 00:27:29,759 --> 00:27:31,330 It was very rowdy times. 655 00:27:31,330 --> 00:27:35,066 \h\h\h\h\hRoddy and Ric and the other wrestlers, 656 00:27:35,066 --> 00:27:37,594 they lived on a planet \h\h\hthat was theirs. 657 00:27:37,594 --> 00:27:40,759 They were a wild, wild pair of men, 658 00:27:40,759 --> 00:27:45,264 lots of drinking and hotels \hgetting damaged and such. 659 00:27:45,264 --> 00:27:46,594 - Next thing I remember, 660 00:27:46,594 --> 00:27:49,132 \h\hI’m in my bed, my clothes are on, 661 00:27:49,132 --> 00:27:51,363 the door’s knocked off \h\h\h\h\hthe hinges. 662 00:27:51,363 --> 00:27:52,660 I didn’t know what happened, 663 00:27:52,660 --> 00:27:54,264 but I got the hell \h\hout of there. 664 00:27:54,264 --> 00:27:56,726 \h\h- You hear things. You know some things. 665 00:27:56,726 --> 00:27:59,066 \hYou don’t know a lot of things. 666 00:27:59,066 --> 00:28:02,528 \h\h\h\hRoddy was Roddy, and that’s what it was. 667 00:28:02,528 --> 00:28:06,726 - We like our kamikazes on ice and our women on fire. 668 00:28:06,726 --> 00:28:08,198 You understand what I’m saying? 669 00:28:08,198 --> 00:28:09,660 \h\h\h- A little woman? - And everywhere we go, 670 00:28:09,660 --> 00:28:15,066 we do it better, longer, harder than anybody else! 671 00:28:15,627 --> 00:28:17,396 We were the Beatles, man. 672 00:28:17,396 --> 00:28:20,264 \h\hIt was suicidal putting us together. 673 00:28:20,264 --> 00:28:23,396 Ingesting or drinking, \h\h\h\h\h\hanything, 674 00:28:23,396 --> 00:28:26,726 Roddy could beat anybody \h\h\h\h\h\hto the draw. 675 00:28:27,099 --> 00:28:29,000 - It just got way out of hand. 676 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:33,528 This is where Ric Flair started the, you know, 99 kamikazes. 677 00:28:33,528 --> 00:28:35,330 You know, here I’m, like-- \h\h\h\h\hwhoa, you know? 678 00:28:35,330 --> 00:28:37,396 I’m pretty hard core man. \h\h\h\hPretty hard core. 679 00:28:37,396 --> 00:28:38,396 I’m drinking mine, 680 00:28:38,396 --> 00:28:40,330 and I’d be the one always \h\hbe getting in trouble. 681 00:28:40,330 --> 00:28:45,627 - It was a time to make money, but it was go, go, go, go, go. 682 00:28:45,627 --> 00:28:47,066 And you get three days off, 683 00:28:47,066 --> 00:28:49,660 and then you come back on the road for another couple weeks. 684 00:28:49,660 --> 00:28:53,000 \hAnd I remember we were driving in a snowstorm. 685 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,396 \h\hYou know, we had beers and everything in the car. 686 00:28:55,396 --> 00:28:56,264 So we got out, 687 00:28:56,264 --> 00:28:58,198 and we’re all taking a leak \h\hon the side of the road. 688 00:28:58,198 --> 00:29:00,363 And all of a sudden, Roddy ran to the car. 689 00:29:00,363 --> 00:29:02,627 And I remember it’s like \h\h\h\hwe ran after him, 690 00:29:02,627 --> 00:29:04,099 \h’cause we knew that Roddy was in 691 00:29:04,099 --> 00:29:05,462 one of those kind of \h\h\hstates of mind 692 00:29:05,462 --> 00:29:07,726 where he was gonna \h\h\htake the car. 693 00:29:07,726 --> 00:29:09,000 We pretty much tackled Roddy 694 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:10,660 while he was trying to drive \h\h\h\h\h\h\hoff in the car. 695 00:29:10,660 --> 00:29:14,132 \h\h\h\h\h- He was a... a tough guy to handle. 696 00:29:14,132 --> 00:29:16,594 He was a heavy partier. 697 00:29:16,594 --> 00:29:18,396 And I would scoop him up, 698 00:29:18,396 --> 00:29:20,099 and I’d make sure he got 699 00:29:20,099 --> 00:29:21,528 \h\h\hto where he was supposed to be going. 700 00:29:21,528 --> 00:29:24,495 Got him to his rooms. Got him to the hotel. 701 00:29:24,495 --> 00:29:26,594 Got him to the airports. 702 00:29:26,594 --> 00:29:30,231 - You go out there and wrestle \h\h\h\h\h\h\hfor 45 minutes, 703 00:29:30,231 --> 00:29:32,198 and you come back, \h\htake a shower. 704 00:29:32,198 --> 00:29:34,000 You’re wide frigging awake. 705 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:37,396 \h\h\h\hAnd a lot of times, I’d look at the coke and... 706 00:29:37,396 --> 00:29:39,264 "Oh, I don’t want to do this." 707 00:29:39,264 --> 00:29:40,594 But you end up doing it. 708 00:29:40,594 --> 00:29:43,495 \h- It was, "I need this to wake up to wrestle." 709 00:29:43,495 --> 00:29:44,462 "I need this to go to bed, 710 00:29:44,462 --> 00:29:46,264 ’cause I work in an hour and this is all I have." 711 00:29:46,264 --> 00:29:49,396 \h\h\h\h\h- It was also about to numb the pain, 712 00:29:49,396 --> 00:29:52,231 \h\h\hthe physical pain, the pain of being alone, 713 00:29:52,231 --> 00:29:54,759 \h\h\h\halways having to be in transition. 714 00:29:54,759 --> 00:29:57,528 You know, you’re never \h\h\h\hsitting still. 715 00:29:57,528 --> 00:30:01,132 \h\h- It’s a vicious cycle that would just go round and round. 716 00:30:01,132 --> 00:30:03,000 It’s easier to go \h\hhave a drink. 717 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,627 It’s easier to go take a pill \h\h\h\hor go smoke a joint. 718 00:30:05,627 --> 00:30:07,396 - Back in those days, 719 00:30:07,396 --> 00:30:11,231 \h\h\h\hlike, any injury could cost you your job. 720 00:30:11,231 --> 00:30:12,264 If you can’t do it, 721 00:30:12,264 --> 00:30:15,264 they replace you a few minutes \h\hlater with somebody else. 722 00:30:15,264 --> 00:30:17,000 \hYou learn to be your own doctors. 723 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,363 That’s kind of the sad thing is, you’re your own doctor. 724 00:30:19,363 --> 00:30:22,396 Roddy was pretty out of control. 725 00:30:22,396 --> 00:30:25,132 Lord knows what kind of drugs and alcohol 726 00:30:25,132 --> 00:30:31,363 were being consumed. 727 00:30:31,363 --> 00:30:33,132 [chuckles] 728 00:30:34,627 --> 00:30:36,528 - [laughter] 729 00:30:37,099 --> 00:30:38,660 - Having Roddy travel so often 730 00:30:38,660 --> 00:30:43,495 \h\h\h\hand be gone so much and having a growing family, 731 00:30:43,495 --> 00:30:45,363 it was very difficult. 732 00:30:45,363 --> 00:30:51,264 \h- When you live like we did, you know, 3,000 miles a week, 733 00:30:51,264 --> 00:30:54,363 you become desensitized. 734 00:30:54,363 --> 00:30:56,099 - Say merry Christmas. 735 00:30:56,099 --> 00:30:58,330 all: Merry Christmas. 736 00:30:58,330 --> 00:30:59,627 - One thing that Roddy did, 737 00:30:59,627 --> 00:31:04,330 he kept his family completely \h\h\h\h\hout of the business 738 00:31:04,330 --> 00:31:09,000 \h\h’cause he didn’t want them to see what he went through. 739 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:10,198 He wanted them to grow up 740 00:31:10,198 --> 00:31:12,132 \h\h\hand be beautiful and healthy and happy, 741 00:31:12,132 --> 00:31:16,462 \h\h\hand I think he took too much of it on himself. 742 00:31:16,462 --> 00:31:17,528 ♪ ♪ 743 00:31:17,528 --> 00:31:20,462 \h\h\h\h\h- Sometimes when Rod would come home from the road, 744 00:31:20,462 --> 00:31:21,594 he wouldn’t come \hstraight home. 745 00:31:21,594 --> 00:31:25,660 \h\h\h\h\hHe would check into a hotel room and just get rested 746 00:31:25,660 --> 00:31:28,396 because when he got home, \h\h\h\hhe couldn’t rest. 747 00:31:28,396 --> 00:31:30,660 I’d like to know \hwhere mine is. 748 00:31:30,660 --> 00:31:33,000 \h\h\h- [laughs] To Barnacle Bill. 749 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:33,594 ♪ ♪ 750 00:31:33,594 --> 00:31:35,660 - He almost had to do a transition mentally 751 00:31:35,660 --> 00:31:37,264 when he came from the road to home, 752 00:31:37,264 --> 00:31:39,660 \h\h\hbecause he didn’t want to bring that character home. 753 00:31:39,660 --> 00:31:42,396 He had such a hot temper \h\h\h\h\h\h\has Hot Rod. 754 00:31:42,396 --> 00:31:43,528 And he had to, 755 00:31:43,528 --> 00:31:46,000 because he had to be \h\h\hon guard a lot. 756 00:31:46,396 --> 00:31:47,726 It was very separate. 757 00:31:47,726 --> 00:31:52,231 He didn’t like to take us \h\h\hto a lot of events. 758 00:31:52,231 --> 00:31:55,000 We were very concerned \h\h\h\h\habout safety 759 00:31:55,000 --> 00:32:00,264 because of how much aggression \h\hwas being put towards Rod. 760 00:32:00,264 --> 00:32:02,528 [crowd cheering] 761 00:32:02,528 --> 00:32:04,594 - He had been a villain \h\h\hin the Deep South 762 00:32:04,594 --> 00:32:07,396 and fighting fans \h\hand, you know, 763 00:32:07,396 --> 00:32:08,594 getting assault charges. 764 00:32:08,594 --> 00:32:10,132 I mean, I can think of a few situations 765 00:32:10,132 --> 00:32:12,726 \h\h\h\hwith Roddy with fans trying to run us off the road 766 00:32:12,726 --> 00:32:15,495 and chasing us in cities \h\h\h\h\h\hlike Detroit. 767 00:32:15,495 --> 00:32:18,528 \h\h- People would throw thumbtacks in the ring, 768 00:32:18,528 --> 00:32:20,132 hit with beer bottles. 769 00:32:20,132 --> 00:32:21,198 In Asheville, North Carolina, 770 00:32:21,198 --> 00:32:23,495 they threw a rattlesnake \hin the ring one night. 771 00:32:23,495 --> 00:32:26,000 Guy ran down to the ringside \h\h\h\h\h\hwith a gunnysack 772 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:27,132 and threw a rattlesnake. 773 00:32:27,132 --> 00:32:28,528 \h[bell dings] [crowd booing] 774 00:32:28,528 --> 00:32:31,264 \h\h\h- There was a lot of crazy fans back then, 775 00:32:31,264 --> 00:32:34,495 and being a bad guy could be \h\ha very dangerous living. 776 00:32:34,495 --> 00:32:36,528 - ’Cause I’m going to shove it \h\h\h\h\h\h\hdown your throat! 777 00:32:36,528 --> 00:32:38,528 - There’s certainly times \h\h\h\hwhen I’d seen him 778 00:32:38,528 --> 00:32:40,132 say or do something on TV \h\h\h\h\hwhere I’m like, 779 00:32:40,132 --> 00:32:42,132 \h\h\h\h"Oh, my gosh, we’re in for it now. 780 00:32:42,132 --> 00:32:44,528 This is gonna get worse before it gets better." 781 00:32:44,528 --> 00:32:49,726 \h\hBut I never asked him to curtail or tone it down 782 00:32:49,726 --> 00:32:53,495 because that would hinder \h\h\h\h\hhis creativity. 783 00:32:53,495 --> 00:32:57,396 - People wanted to kill me. 784 00:32:57,396 --> 00:32:59,396 - I remember there was \h\h\h\h\ha gentleman. 785 00:32:59,396 --> 00:33:01,132 I wasn’t really paying \h\h\hmuch attention, 786 00:33:01,132 --> 00:33:05,132 but Roddy went taking off \h\h\h\hdown this hallway. 787 00:33:05,132 --> 00:33:09,627 \h\h\h\hAnd the next thing, I see them having some words 788 00:33:09,627 --> 00:33:12,660 \h\h\hand the police got involved in it. 789 00:33:12,660 --> 00:33:17,132 \h\hHe did have a big knife, you know, like a Bowie knife. 790 00:33:17,132 --> 00:33:21,099 So finally the officer said, \h"Mr. Piper, we’ve got him. 791 00:33:21,099 --> 00:33:21,660 He’s going to jail." 792 00:33:21,660 --> 00:33:26,099 He said, "Well, I just wanted to have a couple seconds with him." 793 00:33:26,099 --> 00:33:27,231 The officer said, "Why?" 794 00:33:27,231 --> 00:33:29,627 \h\h\h\h\h\hAnd he said, "Because he stabbed me." 795 00:33:29,627 --> 00:33:32,264 And Roddy took his thumb \h\h\h\hoff of his chest, 796 00:33:32,264 --> 00:33:37,099 and the blood started squirting \h\h\h\h\hin the officer’s face 797 00:33:37,099 --> 00:33:38,264 at every heartbeat. 798 00:33:38,264 --> 00:33:41,528 - It was going tsst-tsst, \h\h\h\h\h\h\htsst-tsst. 799 00:33:41,528 --> 00:33:42,528 - And I went, "Oh!" 800 00:33:42,528 --> 00:33:44,330 \h- Sergeant Slaughter took me to the hospital 801 00:33:44,330 --> 00:33:46,660 and held the... held the wound. 802 00:33:46,660 --> 00:33:48,132 \h\h\h\h- Doctor said, "If that would’ve went 803 00:33:48,132 --> 00:33:53,528 one more 1/2 inch or less, \h\h\h\h\h\hyou’d be dead." 804 00:33:53,528 --> 00:33:55,132 - So what was it like? 805 00:33:55,132 --> 00:33:56,231 It was a living hell. 806 00:33:56,231 --> 00:34:00,330 \h- It wasn’t just, "You’re a bad guy on TV," and that’s it. 807 00:34:00,330 --> 00:34:01,495 It followed you everywhere. 808 00:34:01,495 --> 00:34:03,528 Dad was stabbed three times \h\h\h\h\h\h\hin his life. 809 00:34:03,528 --> 00:34:05,363 Three times they actually \h\h\h\h\h\hstabbed him, 810 00:34:05,363 --> 00:34:07,132 \h\h\h\h\hto the point where he had a leather jacket 811 00:34:07,132 --> 00:34:10,099 that was Kevlar-lined and it was stab-proof 812 00:34:10,099 --> 00:34:11,627 because he had been stabbed \h\h\h\h\h\h\hso many times. 813 00:34:11,627 --> 00:34:19,231 \h- He was the next generation to take it to the next level. 814 00:34:19,528 --> 00:34:23,000 - What a tremendous match \h\h\h\h\h\hto have live. 815 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:24,264 Millions of fans everywhere 816 00:34:24,264 --> 00:34:27,132 \h\hcan see Greg Valentine and Roddy Piper go at each other. 817 00:34:27,132 --> 00:34:33,000 - Me and Piper started out a long, long, long journey. 818 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:36,660 We’d probably wrestled each other for a year. 819 00:34:36,660 --> 00:34:38,396 [crowd cheering] 820 00:34:38,396 --> 00:34:40,396 We just walloped each other. 821 00:34:40,396 --> 00:34:43,132 ♪ ♪ 822 00:34:43,132 --> 00:34:49,198 I took Piper’s head and rammed \h\h\h\hit into the turnbuckle. 823 00:34:49,198 --> 00:34:50,495 ♪ ♪ 824 00:34:50,495 --> 00:34:52,759 Every time I’d go out there, 825 00:34:52,759 --> 00:34:54,660 I’d beat on his ear. 826 00:34:54,660 --> 00:34:56,264 ♪ ♪ 827 00:34:56,264 --> 00:34:57,264 Blam! 828 00:34:57,264 --> 00:34:58,231 ♪ ♪ 829 00:34:58,231 --> 00:35:02,264 So I end up naming it \hthe Year of the Ear. 830 00:35:02,264 --> 00:35:03,594 - Watch him go to that ear. 831 00:35:03,594 --> 00:35:08,000 - And I’d laugh, "Ha, ha, ha, \h\h\h\hthe Year of the Ear." 832 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:09,330 ♪ ♪ 833 00:35:09,330 --> 00:35:14,528 And then finally they want \h\hto blow it off, end it. 834 00:35:14,528 --> 00:35:15,363 ♪ ♪ 835 00:35:15,363 --> 00:35:16,528 - What happened was 836 00:35:16,528 --> 00:35:19,066 \hBruno Sammartino and Larry Zbyszko 837 00:35:19,066 --> 00:35:21,231 did $500,000 in Shea Stadium, 838 00:35:21,231 --> 00:35:25,627 \h\h\hso it became a war of the North against the South, 839 00:35:25,627 --> 00:35:27,000 so the South said, \h\h\h\h"All right, 840 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,264 \h\h\h\h\hwe’re gonna put on the first pay-per-view ever." 841 00:35:29,264 --> 00:35:31,000 So they come to me \h\hand they said, 842 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,660 "I want you to make up \h\h\h\h\hthe meanest, 843 00:35:33,660 --> 00:35:38,660 nastiest, most brutal match you can possibly think of." 844 00:35:38,660 --> 00:35:41,660 \h- And Piper came up with this dog collar. 845 00:35:41,660 --> 00:35:45,363 \h\h\h- 40 pounds of chain. I want you to check it out. 846 00:35:45,363 --> 00:35:46,495 You’re gonna see something 847 00:35:46,495 --> 00:35:48,396 \h\h\hyou never seen in your life before. 848 00:35:48,396 --> 00:35:51,132 - Well, it was a great idea. \h\h\h\h\hIt was my birthday. 849 00:35:51,132 --> 00:35:53,396 \hOh, what is this? This is beautiful. 850 00:35:53,396 --> 00:35:55,000 \hThey presented me with this big cake. 851 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,264 \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hI love cake. Wait a minute, what is this? 852 00:35:57,264 --> 00:36:01,132 I look at it and I see \hsome steel in there, 853 00:36:01,132 --> 00:36:05,132 \h\h\h\h\hand I reached down and pulled out a dog collar. 854 00:36:05,132 --> 00:36:07,132 What? What are you doing? 855 00:36:07,132 --> 00:36:08,627 What are you trying \h\h\h\h\h\h\hto do to me? 856 00:36:08,627 --> 00:36:12,198 \h\hHe wants to have a dog collar match. 857 00:36:12,198 --> 00:36:15,528 Piper was the best, the best performer. 858 00:36:15,528 --> 00:36:19,132 \h\h\h\h\h\h\hGood at the mic. Probably number one at the mic. 859 00:36:19,132 --> 00:36:22,099 Some people said he sounded \h\h\h\h\hlike Daffy Duck. 860 00:36:22,099 --> 00:36:24,264 I love Daffy Duck. \h\h\h\h\h[laughs] 861 00:36:24,264 --> 00:36:26,132 - You’re talking about \h\h\h\h\hthe biggest thing 862 00:36:26,132 --> 00:36:29,000 \h\h\h\hthat’s ever gonna happen in the history of wrestling. 863 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:30,132 \h\h\h\h\h[bell dings] - Ladies and gentlemen, 864 00:36:30,132 --> 00:36:34,132 our next event of the evening \h\his a very special match. 865 00:36:34,132 --> 00:36:36,396 This is a collar match. 866 00:36:36,396 --> 00:36:38,660 - It was the very first \h\h\h\h\h\hpay-per-view 867 00:36:38,660 --> 00:36:41,000 ever for wrestling. 868 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:41,627 [bell dings] 869 00:36:41,627 --> 00:36:45,594 \h- Two men linked together like this in mortal combat. 870 00:36:45,594 --> 00:36:47,099 - This is a strategy. 871 00:36:47,099 --> 00:36:49,000 This is what Piper talked to me about. 872 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,594 And then, see, I’m the first \h\h\h\h\hone to get nailed. 873 00:36:51,594 --> 00:36:54,396 - Used exactly as a whip as we had talked about. 874 00:36:54,396 --> 00:36:57,132 - You could use it to batter the guy. 875 00:36:57,132 --> 00:37:00,528 \h\hNow he’s gonna get me in the teeth right there. 876 00:37:00,528 --> 00:37:03,066 I had to go to the dentist \h\h\h\h\h\hthe next day. 877 00:37:03,066 --> 00:37:04,264 - You can see the concern 878 00:37:04,264 --> 00:37:05,726 \h\h\hof the people watching this match. 879 00:37:05,726 --> 00:37:07,528 They really don’t know \h\h\h\hwhat to expect 880 00:37:07,528 --> 00:37:09,660 when two men are going at it \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hlike this. 881 00:37:09,660 --> 00:37:11,198 - Now I’m going for the ear. 882 00:37:11,198 --> 00:37:14,066 - Look at Valentine pounding on him now. 883 00:37:14,066 --> 00:37:15,363 ♪ ♪ 884 00:37:15,363 --> 00:37:17,231 - It was a ridiculously \h\h\h\h\h\hhard match. 885 00:37:17,231 --> 00:37:20,330 \hIt was the toughest match, probably, I’ve ever been in, 886 00:37:20,330 --> 00:37:22,198 especially with Valentine. 887 00:37:22,198 --> 00:37:23,264 - Used as a whip. 888 00:37:23,264 --> 00:37:24,660 Valentine on his knees. 889 00:37:24,660 --> 00:37:26,363 Hard blow to the top \h\h\h\hof the head. 890 00:37:26,363 --> 00:37:30,132 - No, I’m not just selling; \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hI’m hurt. 891 00:37:30,132 --> 00:37:32,264 \h\h\h\h\hBut it’s all for you wrestling fans. 892 00:37:32,264 --> 00:37:36,396 Giving you our love \hin a strange way. 893 00:37:36,396 --> 00:37:38,528 [laughs] 894 00:37:38,528 --> 00:37:39,528 ♪ ♪ 895 00:37:39,528 --> 00:37:41,528 This is the end of it, \h\h\h\h\hright there. 896 00:37:41,528 --> 00:37:43,132 He hog-tied me. 897 00:37:43,132 --> 00:37:44,396 - He got the count. 898 00:37:44,396 --> 00:37:48,000 - I think he was the greatest \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hof all time... 899 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:49,066 ♪ ♪ 900 00:37:49,066 --> 00:37:51,660 A really good-hearted guy 901 00:37:51,660 --> 00:37:55,099 but a really tough \hson of a bitch. 902 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:56,660 - Valentine, you say-- 903 00:37:56,660 --> 00:38:00,000 \h\h\h\h\h\hyou say your strategy was to take away all my hearing. 904 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:04,000 You see, what you forgot is, \hyou got one more ear to go. 905 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,363 ♪ ♪ 906 00:38:06,363 --> 00:38:10,627 - When you look for, you know, \h\h\hattributes of a bad guy, 907 00:38:10,627 --> 00:38:13,462 you have to be fearless; 908 00:38:13,462 --> 00:38:15,396 you have to have the gift of gab; 909 00:38:15,396 --> 00:38:18,396 you can say anything \h\h\hthat you want, 910 00:38:18,396 --> 00:38:20,231 \h\h\h\heven though you know it’s gonna be controversial; 911 00:38:20,231 --> 00:38:22,528 \h\h\h\hyou have to be able to communicate with the audience; 912 00:38:22,528 --> 00:38:26,528 and you have to a certain \h\h\hattitude about you. 913 00:38:26,528 --> 00:38:30,528 And Roddy had all those \h\h\hattributes and more. 914 00:38:30,528 --> 00:38:31,363 ♪ ♪ 915 00:38:31,363 --> 00:38:36,000 \h\h- Vince McMahon has these plans of expanding nationally. 916 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:39,099 What’s the best way to expand \h\h\hall over North America? 917 00:38:39,099 --> 00:38:43,528 \h\hYou get the best wrestlers from the individual territories 918 00:38:43,528 --> 00:38:47,396 and you bring them all to WWE. 919 00:38:47,396 --> 00:38:49,000 And Vince McMahon \h\hwants it all. 920 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:53,660 \h\h- I got a call from Roddy. He says, "Mr. McMahon called." 921 00:38:53,660 --> 00:38:55,594 \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hI said, "Yeah, are you coming up?" 922 00:38:55,594 --> 00:38:57,264 He goes, "Yeah, he wants me \h\h\h\h\h\h\hto come up." 923 00:38:57,264 --> 00:38:58,528 I said, "Come on up." 924 00:38:58,528 --> 00:39:04,660 \hRoddy was coming to New York City. 925 00:39:04,660 --> 00:39:07,759 \h\h- Let me tell you how to be Roddy Piper. 926 00:39:07,759 --> 00:39:10,264 \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h[laughs] Have a nice [bleep] day. 927 00:39:10,264 --> 00:39:11,132 Go [bleep] yourself. 928 00:39:11,132 --> 00:39:13,132 \h\h\hGimme the microphone and get out of the way. 929 00:39:13,132 --> 00:39:16,396 Bowlegged, big, fat, \h\h\h\h\h\h\hugly penguin. 930 00:39:16,396 --> 00:39:19,000 You know what? You both stink! 931 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:20,132 It’s as simple as this: 932 00:39:20,132 --> 00:39:23,726 when RP talks, brother, people listen. 933 00:39:24,066 --> 00:39:27,000 - And New York, 934 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,396 New York is big guys, 935 00:39:29,396 --> 00:39:33,198 at least 250-pounders, \h\h\h6-foot whatever. 936 00:39:33,198 --> 00:39:34,495 That’s what I was. 937 00:39:34,495 --> 00:39:36,132 You know, Piper, later on, 938 00:39:36,132 --> 00:39:37,396 I guess he gained weight. 939 00:39:37,396 --> 00:39:39,660 But when he first came in, \h\h\h\h\hhe was smaller. 940 00:39:39,660 --> 00:39:42,066 \h\h\h\h\h\h- So if Roddy’s not the greatest physical specimen 941 00:39:42,066 --> 00:39:43,396 \h\h\h\h\h\h\hin the world, then don’t let him do that. 942 00:39:43,396 --> 00:39:48,198 \h\hDo what Roddy does best. Let him be a talk show host. 943 00:39:48,198 --> 00:39:49,660 \h\h\h\hIn a moment, ladies and gentlemen, 944 00:39:49,660 --> 00:39:51,396 we’re going to take you \h\h\hto "Piper’s Pit," 945 00:39:51,396 --> 00:39:53,264 \h\hinvolving, of course, the rather controversial 946 00:39:53,264 --> 00:39:56,627 and certainly opinionated \h\h\h\h\h\hRoddy Piper. 947 00:39:56,627 --> 00:39:58,594 - They put up a backdrop, 948 00:39:58,594 --> 00:40:01,528 and it was basically a wrestling talk show 949 00:40:01,528 --> 00:40:02,330 to stir the pot. 950 00:40:02,330 --> 00:40:04,330 - You’re a lousy wrestler. It’s a simple as that. 951 00:40:04,330 --> 00:40:07,000 - I might be a lousy wrestler, \h\h\h\h\h\h\hbut I’m still in there, 952 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,528 and I’m not afraid \h\h\h\h\h\h\hof nobody-- 953 00:40:10,330 --> 00:40:12,000 - It was "The Tonight Show" 954 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:15,264 where the host could end up \h\h\hbeating up the guest. 955 00:40:15,264 --> 00:40:19,000 \h\h\h\hIt was just the most off-the-walls, unpredictable, 956 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:22,231 amazing idea that ever happened \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hin television, 957 00:40:22,231 --> 00:40:24,660 \h\h\h\h\hin my opinion. I’m biased, but whatever. 958 00:40:24,660 --> 00:40:25,495 [laughs] 959 00:40:25,495 --> 00:40:27,726 - Is he supposed \h\h\h\hto scare me? 960 00:40:27,726 --> 00:40:29,660 - You had to be ready. 961 00:40:29,660 --> 00:40:30,726 He was witty, smart. 962 00:40:30,726 --> 00:40:32,462 He was like the fastest gun \h\h\h\h\h\h\hin the West. 963 00:40:32,462 --> 00:40:33,627 - Hello, peasants. 964 00:40:33,627 --> 00:40:35,528 - Don’t call my father stupid. 965 00:40:35,528 --> 00:40:36,528 - Wait, wait, wait... 966 00:40:36,528 --> 00:40:37,627 How you doing, fatso? 967 00:40:37,627 --> 00:40:40,495 - He could take some guys \h\h\h\hand make them look 968 00:40:40,495 --> 00:40:41,627 like heroes and superstars, 969 00:40:41,627 --> 00:40:44,132 or he could kind of like, \h\h\h\hif he wanted to, 970 00:40:44,132 --> 00:40:46,627 he could chop you down to size \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hpretty quick. 971 00:40:46,627 --> 00:40:49,099 - I could slam you myself! I don’t care. 972 00:40:49,099 --> 00:40:52,330 You’re saying John Studd did at 520... 973 00:40:53,099 --> 00:40:56,363 [crowd cheering] 974 00:40:56,363 --> 00:40:57,660 - The most famous one, \h\h\h\h\h\hof course, 975 00:40:57,660 --> 00:40:59,396 is the interview with Jimmy Snuka. 976 00:40:59,396 --> 00:41:00,594 - There you go. 977 00:41:00,594 --> 00:41:02,528 - There were a couple \h\h\h\h\hof coconuts, 978 00:41:02,528 --> 00:41:06,363 and one of them, you know, had been what we call "gimmicked," 979 00:41:06,363 --> 00:41:09,132 but that’s not the one \h\h\h\h\hRoddy chose. 980 00:41:09,132 --> 00:41:10,396 - Am I making fun of you? 981 00:41:10,396 --> 00:41:12,264 No, sir, no, sir. 982 00:41:17,594 --> 00:41:20,132 [indistinct shouting] 983 00:41:20,231 --> 00:41:22,528 - Nothing was scripted \h\hon "Piper’s Pit." 984 00:41:22,528 --> 00:41:23,495 - There, you sucker! 985 00:41:23,495 --> 00:41:25,264 - It was all off of the top \h\h\h\h\h\h\hof Dad’s head 986 00:41:25,264 --> 00:41:27,660 \hor something that he’d maybe written down in a note before. 987 00:41:27,660 --> 00:41:29,396 \hAnd that’s where the magic happens. 988 00:41:29,396 --> 00:41:32,660 - Just when they think \hthey got the answers, 989 00:41:32,660 --> 00:41:34,330 I change the questions. 990 00:41:34,330 --> 00:41:37,066 - He wasn’t famous for his technique 991 00:41:37,066 --> 00:41:39,528 or his type of wrestling or how big his arms were 992 00:41:39,528 --> 00:41:40,759 or anything like that. 993 00:41:40,759 --> 00:41:42,198 \h\h\h\h\hHe was just an incredible talker 994 00:41:42,198 --> 00:41:44,000 and a guy that was taking \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hwrestling 995 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:45,132 and telling a different story. 996 00:41:45,132 --> 00:41:50,198 \h\h- You do not throw rocks at a man who’s got a machine gun! 997 00:41:51,231 --> 00:41:53,660 \h\h\h\h\h\h\h[Cyndi Lauper’s "Girls Just Want to Have Fun"] 998 00:41:53,660 --> 00:41:55,132 - Ladies and gentlemen, 999 00:41:55,132 --> 00:41:56,594 I want to introduce to you 1000 00:41:56,594 --> 00:41:59,264 the female entertainer \h\h\h\h\hof the year, 1001 00:41:59,264 --> 00:42:00,330 Miss Cyndi Lauper! 1002 00:42:00,330 --> 00:42:02,594 [crowd cheers] \h\h\h[laughs] 1003 00:42:02,594 --> 00:42:05,132 - Wrestling began to work with MTV, 1004 00:42:05,132 --> 00:42:08,132 which was absolutely \h\h\h\h\h\hred-hot. 1005 00:42:08,132 --> 00:42:09,396 - You look wonderful, Cyndi. 1006 00:42:09,396 --> 00:42:13,660 \h\h\h\h\h- Captain Lou Albano and Cyndi Lauper were friends, 1007 00:42:13,660 --> 00:42:16,594 \hand Cyndi Lauper had put Lou Albano 1008 00:42:16,594 --> 00:42:19,132 in her "Girls Want to Have Fun" \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hvideo. 1009 00:42:19,132 --> 00:42:22,000 \h- I said, "Vince, I got this guy named Dave Wolff 1010 00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:23,363 "that manages Cyndi Lauper, 1011 00:42:23,363 --> 00:42:25,066 "and they just did a video \h\h\h\h\h\h\hwith Albano 1012 00:42:25,066 --> 00:42:27,495 but now they wanna get involved \h\hin the wrestling business." 1013 00:42:27,495 --> 00:42:28,660 And Vince was like, "Hmm, hmm." 1014 00:42:28,660 --> 00:42:31,660 \h\h- Dave thought it was going to be good for Cyndi’s career. 1015 00:42:31,660 --> 00:42:33,660 You know, here she’s doing \h\h\h\h\h\hthis crossover 1016 00:42:33,660 --> 00:42:36,198 in this very unusual world. 1017 00:42:36,198 --> 00:42:38,462 \h\h\h\h\h\h\hIt’s like, "What the hell is this?" 1018 00:42:38,462 --> 00:42:42,627 - Would you please welcome \h\h\h\h\h\h\hCyndi Lauper! 1019 00:42:42,627 --> 00:42:44,066 [crowd cheering] 1020 00:42:44,066 --> 00:42:50,528 \h- So now there’s all this attention, suddenly, to WWE. 1021 00:42:50,528 --> 00:42:52,132 People who were fashionable, 1022 00:42:52,132 --> 00:42:55,462 \h\h\hpeople who were in the rock and roll world, 1023 00:42:55,462 --> 00:42:58,330 they’re gonna start \h\h\hwatching WWE. 1024 00:42:58,330 --> 00:43:01,594 So they had this ceremony in Madison Square Garden. 1025 00:43:01,594 --> 00:43:06,528 \h\hLou Albano was one of the primary forces 1026 00:43:06,528 --> 00:43:10,066 \h\h\h\h\hresponsible for the Rock ’n’ Wrestling Connection, 1027 00:43:10,066 --> 00:43:13,132 and what better way \h\h\hto honor a man 1028 00:43:13,132 --> 00:43:15,198 but to give him \ha gold record? 1029 00:43:15,198 --> 00:43:18,000 \h\h\h- I’m so grateful to receive this award. 1030 00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:20,264 \h\h\h- Now that’s going to provoke some jealousy, 1031 00:43:20,264 --> 00:43:24,000 and who is the most jealous \h\h\h\h\hperformer of all? 1032 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:25,363 - There is Roddy Piper. 1033 00:43:25,363 --> 00:43:26,660 - This is beautiful, Cyndi. 1034 00:43:26,660 --> 00:43:29,462 - Maybe they have some kind \h\hof presentation to make. 1035 00:43:29,462 --> 00:43:32,198 - I want to present you \h\h\h\h\h\hwith this. 1036 00:43:33,264 --> 00:43:35,132 - Oh! Look out! 1037 00:43:36,066 --> 00:43:38,000 Captain Lou Albano \h\h\h\hclobbered! 1038 00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:44,660 \h- Roddy Piper shockingly kicks the biggest pop star in America, 1039 00:43:44,660 --> 00:43:47,660 a female pop star, \h\h\hin the head. 1040 00:43:47,660 --> 00:43:50,528 \h- David Wolff trying to come to the rescue, 1041 00:43:50,528 --> 00:43:52,132 but he’s no match! 1042 00:43:52,132 --> 00:43:55,231 \h\h\hOh, he pile-drived him right down into the canvas. 1043 00:43:55,231 --> 00:43:58,528 \h\h- 20 minutes before the match, I was asked, 1044 00:43:58,528 --> 00:44:02,198 \h\h"Do you think you can kick Cyndi Lauper and not hurt her?" 1045 00:44:02,198 --> 00:44:03,396 by her manager. 1046 00:44:03,396 --> 00:44:07,132 \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hI’m thinking, "I hope you never manage me." 1047 00:44:07,132 --> 00:44:08,000 You know? 1048 00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:11,066 But when they saw that, 1049 00:44:11,066 --> 00:44:15,330 uh, Saddam Hussein got nothing on me. 1050 00:44:15,330 --> 00:44:16,330 - Look out! 1051 00:44:16,330 --> 00:44:19,231 \h\hThe Hulkster’s hitting the ring! 1052 00:44:19,231 --> 00:44:20,528 - Cyndi wasn’t a wrestler, 1053 00:44:20,528 --> 00:44:22,462 so she had to have somebody \h\h\h\h\hdefend her honor. 1054 00:44:22,462 --> 00:44:25,528 - He knew what he was doing. He was stirring up the crowd 1055 00:44:25,528 --> 00:44:27,396 \h\hand he knew it and he loved it. 1056 00:44:27,396 --> 00:44:28,495 All heels do. 1057 00:44:28,495 --> 00:44:31,264 - What a disgraceful display. 1058 00:44:31,264 --> 00:44:33,495 Cyndi, look at her. 1059 00:44:33,495 --> 00:44:35,330 Tears running down her face. 1060 00:44:35,330 --> 00:44:37,099 Hulkster’s hot. Everybody’s hot. 1061 00:44:37,099 --> 00:44:41,660 \hBoy, he wishes he could have got his hands on Roddy Piper. 1062 00:44:41,660 --> 00:44:43,363 - Every dog has its day, 1063 00:44:43,363 --> 00:44:44,627 you know what I’m talking \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\habout? 1064 00:44:44,627 --> 00:44:46,198 And that one’s gonna get his. 1065 00:44:46,198 --> 00:44:49,231 - She expects me to sit there \h\hand do nothing about her, 1066 00:44:49,231 --> 00:44:51,132 \h\h\h\h\h\h\hso I kick her 12 yards across the field. 1067 00:44:51,132 --> 00:44:52,660 - But she’s a woman. \h\h\h\h\h\hShe’s a woman. 1068 00:44:52,660 --> 00:44:53,660 - Just imagine it. 1069 00:44:53,660 --> 00:44:55,528 In about a four-month period, 1070 00:44:55,528 --> 00:44:58,528 I had the kicked Cyndi Lauper \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hin the head. 1071 00:44:58,528 --> 00:45:01,396 I don’t know how many guys \h\hon Piper’s Pit I had, 1072 00:45:01,396 --> 00:45:04,495 \h\h\h\hwhatever I had done, all in this very short time. 1073 00:45:04,495 --> 00:45:07,759 \h\hIt was getting really heated up. 1074 00:45:07,759 --> 00:45:10,528 I couldn’t go anyplace. \h\h\h\hI was fighting. 1075 00:45:10,528 --> 00:45:11,594 I had a family. 1076 00:45:11,594 --> 00:45:14,132 \h\h\h\hI was fighting in and out of Denny’s. 1077 00:45:14,132 --> 00:45:15,396 It was crazy. 1078 00:45:15,396 --> 00:45:19,528 \h\h\h\h\h\h- Roddy understood that bringing in the musicians 1079 00:45:19,528 --> 00:45:21,231 brings it to a whole \h\h\hnother level, 1080 00:45:21,231 --> 00:45:22,396 so he was onboard for that. 1081 00:45:22,396 --> 00:45:25,000 - All right, let me just step out this way a tad. 1082 00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:28,495 - But he found it very hard being the old-school person, 1083 00:45:28,495 --> 00:45:33,000 and he tried best he could \h\h\h\h\h\h\hto cooperate. 1084 00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:34,198 It was never easy. 1085 00:45:34,198 --> 00:45:37,132 - And the last one \his, "MTV stinks"? 1086 00:45:37,132 --> 00:45:39,396 - Once we got hooked up \h\h\h\h\h\h\hwith MTV, 1087 00:45:39,396 --> 00:45:41,627 it took us to mainstream. 1088 00:45:41,627 --> 00:45:43,264 - MTV... 1089 00:45:43,264 --> 00:45:45,000 [laughs] 1090 00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,726 Music To Vomit by. 1091 00:45:47,726 --> 00:45:50,132 \h\h\h\h\h\h- Tonight, ladies and gentlemen, 1092 00:45:50,132 --> 00:45:52,363 the War to Settle the Score, 1093 00:45:52,363 --> 00:45:53,726 the hottest ticket in town. 1094 00:45:53,726 --> 00:45:55,528 - The Rock ’n’ Wrestling \h\h\h\h\h\h\hConnection 1095 00:45:55,528 --> 00:45:59,099 helped us change the look \h\h\h\h\hof the business 1096 00:45:59,099 --> 00:46:02,495 to where we get families \hand kids at ringside. 1097 00:46:02,495 --> 00:46:05,198 - This is broadcast on MTV. 1098 00:46:05,198 --> 00:46:07,264 This is big time. 1099 00:46:07,264 --> 00:46:10,264 \h- Everybody wants to be a part of it. 1100 00:46:10,264 --> 00:46:11,660 Well, there’s something \h\h\h\hgoing on here. 1101 00:46:11,660 --> 00:46:14,594 I got to see what it is. \hI got to check it out. 1102 00:46:14,594 --> 00:46:17,462 \h\h\h\h\h- Piper was the ultimate villain, 1103 00:46:17,462 --> 00:46:19,660 \hso you want to have the ultimate villain 1104 00:46:19,660 --> 00:46:21,759 against the ultimate hero. 1105 00:46:21,759 --> 00:46:23,396 \h\h\h\h\h\h\h- It was the biggest thing ever. 1106 00:46:23,396 --> 00:46:26,264 It was Hogan and Piper \h\h\h\h\hgoing at it. 1107 00:46:26,264 --> 00:46:28,000 - We have got action. 1108 00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:31,000 Oh! They’re at it! \h\h[bell dings] 1109 00:46:31,660 --> 00:46:33,000 It’s under way. 1110 00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:34,330 \hLook at this, back and forth. 1111 00:46:34,330 --> 00:46:36,528 Oh, raking the eyes \h\hof Roddy Piper. 1112 00:46:36,528 --> 00:46:37,495 - When I ran into Piper, 1113 00:46:37,495 --> 00:46:39,726 \hhe’s the one that made everything else possible. 1114 00:46:39,726 --> 00:46:43,396 \h\h\h\h- Oh! Dropped the big elbow on him. 1115 00:46:43,396 --> 00:46:45,000 - I had to have an opponent, 1116 00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:48,363 \h\hand nobody had the air, the arrogance, the attitude 1117 00:46:48,363 --> 00:46:51,066 to go to toe-to-toe with me \h\h\h\hand not back down. 1118 00:46:51,066 --> 00:46:52,594 \h\h\hWithout Piper, we could have never, 1119 00:46:52,594 --> 00:46:54,627 \h\h\h\hnever launched into the stratosphere. 1120 00:46:54,627 --> 00:46:56,132 - Oh! 1121 00:46:56,132 --> 00:46:58,660 - Piper has two confederates: 1122 00:46:58,660 --> 00:47:03,132 \h\hCowboy Bob Orton, Jr., and Paul "Mr. Wonderful" Orndorff. 1123 00:47:03,132 --> 00:47:05,000 - Orndorff going up \h\hto the top rope! 1124 00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,627 - Oh, please. \h- Look out! 1125 00:47:07,627 --> 00:47:09,198 - They interfere in the match. 1126 00:47:09,198 --> 00:47:11,000 \h- Cyndi Lauper up on the apron. 1127 00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:14,264 Orndorff going around the side \h\hrope now at Cyndi Lauper. 1128 00:47:14,264 --> 00:47:16,000 - What? Wait a minute. \h\h\h\h\h\h\hHold on! 1129 00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:18,066 - Mr. T over the railing! 1130 00:47:18,066 --> 00:47:18,660 - Oh, no! 1131 00:47:18,660 --> 00:47:21,627 \h\h- Here comes Mr. T, ladies and gentlemen... 1132 00:47:21,627 --> 00:47:23,000 - Who was going to save the day? 1133 00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:28,066 Well, Mr. T, the biggest TV star in the United States. 1134 00:47:28,066 --> 00:47:32,132 Everybody in the country \h\h\h\h\h\hknows Mr. T. 1135 00:47:32,132 --> 00:47:34,528 - They’re inviting him \h\h\hinside the ring. 1136 00:47:34,528 --> 00:47:36,000 - And so insert Mr. T. 1137 00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:39,330 \h\h\h\h\hIt was Vince’s way to interject entertainment. 1138 00:47:39,330 --> 00:47:41,264 It was nothing but excitement \h\h\h\h\h\h\hand electricity 1139 00:47:41,264 --> 00:47:42,594 and it sure worked. 1140 00:47:42,594 --> 00:47:43,726 - I don’t know anything 1141 00:47:43,726 --> 00:47:45,264 about his background \h\has a wrestler... 1142 00:47:45,264 --> 00:47:46,396 - I used to be a bodyguard. 1143 00:47:46,396 --> 00:47:48,066 I used to be a bouncer \h\h\h\h\h\hat a disco 1144 00:47:48,066 --> 00:47:48,759 and all that stuff. 1145 00:47:48,759 --> 00:47:51,660 \h\hYou know, now, I knew how to wrestle, you know, 1146 00:47:51,660 --> 00:47:53,099 and I wasn’t no fluff. 1147 00:47:53,099 --> 00:47:56,726 \hSo I stepped into the ring, and Piper snuck up behind me. 1148 00:47:56,726 --> 00:47:58,198 - Piper nailed him \h\h\hfrom behind. 1149 00:47:58,198 --> 00:47:59,726 - I didn’t think it would \h\h\h\hgo down like that. 1150 00:47:59,726 --> 00:48:01,330 If I’d knew it’d go down \h\h\h\h\h\h\hlike that, 1151 00:48:01,330 --> 00:48:03,264 I would’ve have did \h\hsomething else. 1152 00:48:03,264 --> 00:48:04,396 So therefore I was so... 1153 00:48:04,396 --> 00:48:05,660 I guess I can say pissed. 1154 00:48:05,660 --> 00:48:07,462 - All hell has broken loose. 1155 00:48:07,462 --> 00:48:09,264 \h\h\h\h\h- Roddy was the ultimate bad guy. 1156 00:48:09,264 --> 00:48:12,528 He sold it. He practiced it. \hHe was good at what he did. 1157 00:48:12,528 --> 00:48:14,462 - We’ve got a madhouse here. 1158 00:48:14,462 --> 00:48:16,264 - Security holding \h\heveryone back. 1159 00:48:16,264 --> 00:48:19,396 - And it just went--it just \h\hwent berserk, you know? 1160 00:48:19,396 --> 00:48:20,495 It was-- [laughs] 1161 00:48:20,495 --> 00:48:22,627 \hI laugh at it now ’cause it’s so old, 1162 00:48:22,627 --> 00:48:24,132 I think about it, \h\h\h\hyou know. 1163 00:48:24,132 --> 00:48:26,264 \h\h\hIt reminded me of the Keystone Cops 1164 00:48:26,264 --> 00:48:27,396 ’cause everybody \h\hwas fighting. 1165 00:48:27,396 --> 00:48:29,528 - What happened to our match? 1166 00:48:29,528 --> 00:48:31,594 - We don’t have a match anymore. 1167 00:48:31,594 --> 00:48:32,660 It’s pandemonium. 1168 00:48:32,660 --> 00:48:33,627 - Well, back then, 1169 00:48:33,627 --> 00:48:35,462 \h\hwe were still really protecting the business. 1170 00:48:35,462 --> 00:48:37,759 "Should we tell the cops what we’re doing or not?" 1171 00:48:37,759 --> 00:48:39,396 And the standard mode was, 1172 00:48:39,396 --> 00:48:40,726 "Oh, don’t tell anybody \h\h\h\h\h\hanything." 1173 00:48:40,726 --> 00:48:42,528 \h\h\h\h\hLet’s just get their natural reaction. 1174 00:48:42,528 --> 00:48:45,132 - All of a sudden, \h\hsome policemen 1175 00:48:45,132 --> 00:48:46,264 came in the ring on me. 1176 00:48:46,264 --> 00:48:50,099 \h\hThere’s a cop with a gun, and here the rest of ’em come. 1177 00:48:50,099 --> 00:48:52,000 - Piper was fighting the cops \h\h\h\h\h\h\hand everything. 1178 00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:54,132 It was just insanity. 1179 00:48:54,132 --> 00:48:57,396 \h\h\h\h\h- Hulk Hogan was the biggest hero. 1180 00:48:57,396 --> 00:48:58,066 ♪ ♪ 1181 00:48:58,066 --> 00:49:01,759 Roddy Piper was the most \h\h\h\hdetested villain. 1182 00:49:01,759 --> 00:49:06,759 And now we are ready \h\hto start our road 1183 00:49:06,759 --> 00:49:12,627 to the first WrestleMania. 1184 00:49:12,627 --> 00:49:15,264 - Okay, Ariel, let’s go. Whoo, whoo, whoo! 1185 00:49:15,264 --> 00:49:16,660 Come on, Ariel. 1186 00:49:16,660 --> 00:49:18,000 - She’s tired. 1187 00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:20,594 There’s the proud papa. 1188 00:49:20,594 --> 00:49:22,231 Papa Piper. 1189 00:49:22,231 --> 00:49:25,627 \h\h\h\h- My dad often would say things like, 1190 00:49:25,627 --> 00:49:27,132 "I can’t imagine \hhow hard it is 1191 00:49:27,132 --> 00:49:28,264 to be Roddy Piper’s kid." 1192 00:49:28,264 --> 00:49:31,528 - Here comes Roddy and Ariel. 1193 00:49:31,528 --> 00:49:34,396 - He felt guilty, like he was \h\h\h\hsome way a bad parent 1194 00:49:34,396 --> 00:49:37,099 because his career was, \h\h\h\h\hin some way, 1195 00:49:37,099 --> 00:49:38,099 affecting our lives. 1196 00:49:38,099 --> 00:49:40,627 \h\h\h[laughter and indistinct chatter] 1197 00:49:42,099 --> 00:49:45,396 - When we were starting out \h\h\h\h\has a young family, 1198 00:49:45,396 --> 00:49:48,396 he came to me and said, 1199 00:49:48,396 --> 00:49:50,132 \h"I really do not want our children 1200 00:49:50,132 --> 00:49:52,528 "to grow up in a hundred \h\h\h\hdifferent places. 1201 00:49:52,528 --> 00:49:54,462 I want them to have roots." 1202 00:49:54,462 --> 00:49:56,132 You sure are pretty. 1203 00:49:56,132 --> 00:50:00,198 ’Cause he never felt like \h\h\h\h\h\hhe had a home. 1204 00:50:00,627 --> 00:50:03,000 \hWe chose to live in the country... 1205 00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:03,660 - [laughing] 1206 00:50:03,660 --> 00:50:05,660 - And have a lot of land \h\h\h\h\h\h\haround us. 1207 00:50:05,660 --> 00:50:07,495 It was a safe zone. 1208 00:50:07,495 --> 00:50:12,231 - We lived on a 10-acre ranch \h\hin the middle of nowhere, 1209 00:50:12,231 --> 00:50:13,363 end of a gravel road, 1210 00:50:13,363 --> 00:50:18,396 \hand we really kept to just that ranch. 1211 00:50:18,396 --> 00:50:20,528 \h\h\h\h\h\h- Good-bye. With any kind of luck, 1212 00:50:20,528 --> 00:50:23,495 she’ll keep going and we won’t \h\h\h\h\h\h\hhave to feed her. 1213 00:50:23,495 --> 00:50:24,396 [laughs] 1214 00:50:24,396 --> 00:50:26,132 - We wanted to be isolated 1215 00:50:26,132 --> 00:50:28,726 because we had actual stalkers \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hwho would come 1216 00:50:28,726 --> 00:50:33,363 and try and break into our house or be on our property. 1217 00:50:33,363 --> 00:50:37,660 - We did not go to the malls. \hWe did not go to the movies. 1218 00:50:37,660 --> 00:50:41,066 I must’ve gotten 30 fights \h\h\h\h\h\h\hin one year, 1219 00:50:41,066 --> 00:50:42,528 just because people wanted 1220 00:50:42,528 --> 00:50:45,660 to test their moxie \h\h\h\hagainst me. 1221 00:50:46,264 --> 00:50:47,396 [dog barks] 1222 00:50:47,396 --> 00:50:49,594 ♪ ♪ 1223 00:50:49,594 --> 00:50:52,396 - And this kind of thing \h\h\h\h\his real life. 1224 00:50:52,396 --> 00:50:53,132 ♪ ♪ 1225 00:50:53,132 --> 00:50:57,132 This is the kind of thing \h\h\hthat makes a family. 1226 00:50:57,132 --> 00:50:58,396 ♪ ♪ 1227 00:50:58,396 --> 00:51:00,396 It’s a great way of nature, 1228 00:51:00,396 --> 00:51:03,264 just teaching a family \h\hhow to be a family 1229 00:51:03,264 --> 00:51:04,528 and stay together. 1230 00:51:04,528 --> 00:51:07,495 ♪ ♪ 1231 00:51:08,528 --> 00:51:13,660 - I had a meeting with a small \hroom full of our executives, 1232 00:51:13,660 --> 00:51:14,660 and I said, 1233 00:51:14,660 --> 00:51:16,231 "There is a Super Bowl, \h\h\h\h\h\h\hyou know. 1234 00:51:16,231 --> 00:51:17,330 There’s a World Series." 1235 00:51:17,330 --> 00:51:18,396 There’s this, there’s that. 1236 00:51:18,396 --> 00:51:20,066 It was really common sense. 1237 00:51:20,066 --> 00:51:22,660 So why not have one of your own? 1238 00:51:22,660 --> 00:51:24,528 Call it WrestleMania. 1239 00:51:24,528 --> 00:51:26,066 We would not have \hWrestleMania I 1240 00:51:26,066 --> 00:51:27,660 had it not been for Roddy because you have to have, 1241 00:51:27,660 --> 00:51:30,726 again, a strong antagonist to go with the protagonist. 1242 00:51:30,726 --> 00:51:33,264 - Check this out, dude. \h\h\h\hCheck that out. 1243 00:51:33,264 --> 00:51:34,627 - You have to have \h\h\hgood stories 1244 00:51:34,627 --> 00:51:36,660 and you have to have \h\hbold characters 1245 00:51:36,660 --> 00:51:38,462 and larger-than-life \h\h\h\hindividuals, 1246 00:51:38,462 --> 00:51:39,627 and Roddy was all of that. 1247 00:51:39,627 --> 00:51:43,627 \h\h\h\hSo I knew I had Roddy, I knew I had Hogan and Mr. T. 1248 00:51:44,231 --> 00:51:45,264 \h\h\h\hIt was like, that was gonna work. 1249 00:51:45,264 --> 00:51:49,198 - How does it feel to be portraying someone like myself? 1250 00:51:49,198 --> 00:51:51,066 - Well, you ain’t nothing, man. 1251 00:51:51,066 --> 00:51:51,594 - Oh, oh, why? 1252 00:51:51,594 --> 00:51:54,132 Oh, because I don’t have a chair with my name on it? 1253 00:51:54,132 --> 00:51:56,759 - Roddy Piper really did not \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hlike Mr. T. 1254 00:51:56,759 --> 00:51:59,396 - Don’t look at-- - Hey, hey, hey. 1255 00:51:59,396 --> 00:52:00,396 [overlapping shouting] 1256 00:52:00,396 --> 00:52:04,759 - In those days, you know, you really paid some dues 1257 00:52:04,759 --> 00:52:06,528 to be in the main event. 1258 00:52:06,528 --> 00:52:10,462 Then Mr. T walks in, not even \h\hhaving a match anywhere, 1259 00:52:10,462 --> 00:52:13,759 \hand it’s like, "What right does he have to be in my ring 1260 00:52:13,759 --> 00:52:14,627 in the main event?" 1261 00:52:14,627 --> 00:52:16,264 - You want to get in there, brother, 1262 00:52:16,264 --> 00:52:17,726 and you want to try some fighting, huh? 1263 00:52:17,726 --> 00:52:21,660 \h- We’d never brought in somebody from the outside, 1264 00:52:21,660 --> 00:52:23,132 and one of the biggest \h\h\h\hproblems I had 1265 00:52:23,132 --> 00:52:26,264 was the barbaric mindset \h\hof Piper and Orndorff. 1266 00:52:26,264 --> 00:52:28,000 - You’re looking at someone \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hthat will... 1267 00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:29,528 \h\h\h- "He’s an actor. He’s not into wrestling. 1268 00:52:29,528 --> 00:52:31,000 We’re just gonna break his legs." 1269 00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:32,066 I said, "Guys, please." 1270 00:52:32,066 --> 00:52:34,000 \h\h- How can I say it without sounding cocky? 1271 00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:37,231 They didn’t understand \h\hthat bringing me in 1272 00:52:37,231 --> 00:52:38,726 would broaden they thing 1273 00:52:38,726 --> 00:52:41,330 because, basically, \hyou know, Vince, 1274 00:52:41,330 --> 00:52:43,066 \h\hbeing the pioneer that he is, he said, 1275 00:52:43,066 --> 00:52:46,000 "Wow, we gonna broaden, bring it to the world." 1276 00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:47,264 - You come on down, T. 1277 00:52:47,264 --> 00:52:50,363 We’ll put an X where the T should be. 1278 00:52:50,363 --> 00:52:53,528 - Roddy hated the thought \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hof a Mr. T 1279 00:52:53,528 --> 00:52:55,264 coming into his arena. 1280 00:52:55,264 --> 00:52:59,000 \hIt’s an insult. It’s a slap in the face to the business. 1281 00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:00,462 - I had these two guys 1282 00:53:00,462 --> 00:53:02,000 \h\h\h\hthat had this old-school mentality, 1283 00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:06,594 and plus I got this guy who’s \hgot this real edgy attitude. 1284 00:53:06,594 --> 00:53:08,594 You know, he’s always talking \h\h\h\hin the third person. 1285 00:53:08,594 --> 00:53:10,198 "Mr. T don’t put up with that." 1286 00:53:10,198 --> 00:53:11,396 - Mr. T ain’t no powder puff, 1287 00:53:11,396 --> 00:53:13,396 you had to understand, \h\h\h\h\h\h\hyou know. 1288 00:53:13,396 --> 00:53:16,264 - They didn’t want to lose \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hto Mr. T 1289 00:53:16,264 --> 00:53:18,396 \hbecause he’s not a "real wrestler." 1290 00:53:18,396 --> 00:53:19,528 [no audible dialogue] 1291 00:53:19,528 --> 00:53:23,231 - There I am, the hottest heel \h\h\h\h\h\hthey’ve ever had, 1292 00:53:23,231 --> 00:53:27,132 and now they want me \h\hto take a dive. 1293 00:53:27,132 --> 00:53:29,132 I said, "I ain’t doing it." 1294 00:53:29,132 --> 00:53:31,264 - I was kind of like \h\h\hthe babysitter, 1295 00:53:31,264 --> 00:53:32,660 \hthe moderator, the peacekeeper, 1296 00:53:32,660 --> 00:53:34,660 and I was ready to have \ha nervous breakdown. 1297 00:53:34,660 --> 00:53:39,726 - The wrestling extravaganza \hof all time, WrestleMania. 1298 00:53:39,726 --> 00:53:40,528 - The people knew 1299 00:53:40,528 --> 00:53:43,264 \hthe wrestling business was changing that night. 1300 00:53:43,264 --> 00:53:48,330 \hThere was a fever pitch in Madison Square Garden. 1301 00:53:48,330 --> 00:53:50,363 - Piper’s gonna get it. \h\h\h\h\h\h- Get what? 1302 00:53:50,363 --> 00:53:52,132 - Get his butt kicked. 1303 00:53:52,132 --> 00:53:53,099 ♪ ♪ 1304 00:53:53,099 --> 00:53:57,660 \h\h\h- What do you do to show the world what this product is 1305 00:53:57,660 --> 00:54:00,231 and what it will be, you know, \h\h\h\h\hin a really big way? 1306 00:54:00,231 --> 00:54:03,231 \h\h\hLiberace, how the hell doe he fit into any of this? 1307 00:54:03,231 --> 00:54:04,660 \h\h\h\h\hHe doesn’t. That’s why I had him. 1308 00:54:04,660 --> 00:54:08,594 \h\h\h\hThis is what sports entertainment is all about. 1309 00:54:08,594 --> 00:54:11,000 It was everything we had, \h\h\h\h\hwe threw it in, 1310 00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:13,396 and let’s roll the dice and do it in a big way. 1311 00:54:13,396 --> 00:54:15,495 Everything I had was on the line. 1312 00:54:15,495 --> 00:54:17,132 \h\h\h\h\h\h\h[playing spirited bagpipe music] 1313 00:54:17,132 --> 00:54:18,660 - There he is. 1314 00:54:18,660 --> 00:54:19,660 [crowd booing] 1315 00:54:19,660 --> 00:54:21,066 - Rowdy Roddy Piper... 1316 00:54:21,066 --> 00:54:25,000 - Here is what is arguably \h\h\h\hthe turning point 1317 00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:28,528 \h\h\h\h\h\hof the WWE in just so many ways. 1318 00:54:28,528 --> 00:54:30,462 Roddy was very stubborn, 1319 00:54:30,462 --> 00:54:32,627 \hbut you’re about to make more money 1320 00:54:32,627 --> 00:54:36,066 \h\h\h\hthan you ever had in your entire lifetime. 1321 00:54:36,066 --> 00:54:36,759 [bell dings] 1322 00:54:36,759 --> 00:54:40,066 \h\h\h\h- There goes the bell. Look at the bell by Liberace. 1323 00:54:40,066 --> 00:54:41,396 - Fans are chanting T, T, T. 1324 00:54:41,396 --> 00:54:43,000 And they’re going \h\hnose-to-nose. 1325 00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:44,132 - Lookit, nose-to-nose. 1326 00:54:44,132 --> 00:54:47,330 - Mr. T and Rowdy Roddy Piper, \h\h\h\h\h\h\hnose-to-nose... 1327 00:54:47,330 --> 00:54:50,462 - Roddy was smart enough \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hto know, 1328 00:54:50,462 --> 00:54:51,660 "Yeah, I’m gonna do business, 1329 00:54:51,660 --> 00:54:53,198 and I’m gonna make it \h\h\h\h\hlook right. 1330 00:54:53,198 --> 00:54:55,396 You don’t have to like it. 1331 00:54:55,396 --> 00:54:57,000 - They’re exchanging--oh! 1332 00:54:57,000 --> 00:55:00,099 Piper now goes behind quickly, takes him down to the canvas. 1333 00:55:00,099 --> 00:55:04,132 \h\h\h- At a certain point, Roddy Piper instructs Mr. T, 1334 00:55:04,132 --> 00:55:06,660 \h\h\h\h\h\h"Pick me up in a fireman’s carry." 1335 00:55:06,660 --> 00:55:09,396 - Oh, nice fireman’s carry. 1336 00:55:09,396 --> 00:55:10,660 - Even though he didn’t want 1337 00:55:10,660 --> 00:55:13,066 \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hMr. T to take advantage of him, 1338 00:55:13,066 --> 00:55:16,462 \h\hRoddy Piper knows how to sell himself, 1339 00:55:16,462 --> 00:55:19,264 and he knows that’s the photo 1340 00:55:19,264 --> 00:55:21,528 \h\h\h\hthat will go all over the world. 1341 00:55:21,528 --> 00:55:22,660 ♪ ♪ 1342 00:55:22,660 --> 00:55:24,264 - What’s he gonna \h\h\hdo with him? 1343 00:55:24,264 --> 00:55:27,066 \h\hOh, drops him like yesterday’s newspaper. 1344 00:55:27,066 --> 00:55:28,462 - You need to make Mr. T \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hthe hero. 1345 00:55:28,462 --> 00:55:30,000 This is what this is all about. 1346 00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:31,660 \h\h\h\h- Mr. T now in the wrong corner. 1347 00:55:31,660 --> 00:55:33,000 Here comes the Hulk. 1348 00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:34,660 - Mr. T should have beaten \h\h\h\hone of those guys 1349 00:55:34,660 --> 00:55:36,660 right in the middle \h\h\h\hof the ring, 1350 00:55:36,660 --> 00:55:37,660 preferably Piper. 1351 00:55:37,660 --> 00:55:39,726 \h\h\h\h\h- As Piper was about to lower-- 1352 00:55:39,726 --> 00:55:40,726 Look out! 1353 00:55:40,726 --> 00:55:43,495 \h\h\h\h- But instead, they had to have Orton 1354 00:55:43,495 --> 00:55:45,099 jump off the top rope \h\h\h\h\hwith a cast. 1355 00:55:45,099 --> 00:55:49,264 It hits Orndorff on the head just so we could get a win. 1356 00:55:49,264 --> 00:55:51,528 Piper didn’t want \h\hto do the job, 1357 00:55:51,528 --> 00:55:53,198 even in WrestleMania. 1358 00:55:53,198 --> 00:55:55,627 \h\h\h\h\hYou’re the bad guy. You’re supposed to get beat. 1359 00:55:55,627 --> 00:55:57,462 That’s what bad guys do. 1360 00:55:57,462 --> 00:55:58,231 ♪ ♪ 1361 00:55:58,231 --> 00:56:01,132 \h\h\h\h\hHe was so protective about protecting Roddy Piper, 1362 00:56:01,132 --> 00:56:05,264 \h\h\hand he didn’t realize if you just listen to our opinion, 1363 00:56:05,264 --> 00:56:08,396 I think you might find things \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\ha lot easier. 1364 00:56:08,396 --> 00:56:09,330 ♪ ♪ 1365 00:56:09,330 --> 00:56:11,363 But Piper didn’t like me, \h\h\h\hyou know, at all. 1366 00:56:11,363 --> 00:56:14,462 I mean, there was no rapport \h\h\hat all with him and I. 1367 00:56:14,462 --> 00:56:15,726 It was strictly business. 1368 00:56:15,726 --> 00:56:17,264 \h\hWe didn’t talk unless we had to. 1369 00:56:17,264 --> 00:56:20,759 But later on in life, Piper and I got to be real good friends. 1370 00:56:20,759 --> 00:56:22,099 I said, "You screwed up, man. 1371 00:56:22,099 --> 00:56:24,264 \h\h\h"You could’ve been one of the richest guys I’ve ever met, 1372 00:56:24,264 --> 00:56:26,660 but you wouldn’t let me \h\h\h\h\h\hbeat you." 1373 00:56:26,660 --> 00:56:28,231 So he goes, "Damn it. \h\h\hI’m so pissed. 1374 00:56:28,231 --> 00:56:29,198 I wish we would’ve talked." 1375 00:56:29,198 --> 00:56:32,660 I said, "I tried to talk. You wouldn’t talk to me." 1376 00:56:33,594 --> 00:56:35,099 - Hulk Hogan, Mr. T, 1377 00:56:35,099 --> 00:56:39,132 kind of taking the center stage of that whole event, 1378 00:56:39,132 --> 00:56:40,627 he always felt 1379 00:56:40,627 --> 00:56:42,330 they couldn’t have been \h\h\hthe center stage 1380 00:56:42,330 --> 00:56:44,264 without him being there, \h\h\hbeing the bad guy. 1381 00:56:44,264 --> 00:56:47,759 And he knew his worth. \h\hHe knew his worth. 1382 00:56:47,759 --> 00:56:55,264 \h- It’s things like that that made Roddy the ultimate rebel. 1383 00:56:55,264 --> 00:56:57,660 ♪ ♪ 1384 00:56:57,660 --> 00:56:59,264 - For myself to stay on top, 1385 00:56:59,264 --> 00:57:02,627 \h\h\h\hI needed to get out of the business completely, 1386 00:57:02,627 --> 00:57:05,462 \h\hdo something in another form. 1387 00:57:05,462 --> 00:57:06,528 ♪ ♪ 1388 00:57:06,528 --> 00:57:08,231 - I spent a lot of time \h\h\h\h\h\h\hwith Roddy 1389 00:57:08,231 --> 00:57:10,495 \h\h\h\h\hand had a lot of big talks with Roddy 1390 00:57:10,495 --> 00:57:11,495 about that time period, 1391 00:57:11,495 --> 00:57:13,132 and I remember Roddy basically telling me 1392 00:57:13,132 --> 00:57:18,000 that you got to have something \h\h\h\helse after wrestling. 1393 00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:19,264 "What are you gonna do \h\h\h\h\hafter that?" 1394 00:57:19,264 --> 00:57:21,264 And he’s like, "Hollywood." 1395 00:57:21,264 --> 00:57:24,264 ♪ ♪ 1396 00:57:24,264 --> 00:57:28,363 \h\h\h- Roddy had a quality that I could use in a movie. 1397 00:57:28,363 --> 00:57:31,099 - Well, first of all, he didn’t \h\h\h\hhave a pretty-boy face 1398 00:57:31,099 --> 00:57:32,099 like a Hollywood actor, 1399 00:57:32,099 --> 00:57:36,132 \hand this role required him to be kind of a working man. 1400 00:57:36,132 --> 00:57:38,198 - You, you’re okay. 1401 00:57:38,198 --> 00:57:40,231 This one? Real [bleep] ugly. 1402 00:57:40,231 --> 00:57:44,132 \h- The character of John Nada is really based a lot on Roddy 1403 00:57:44,132 --> 00:57:46,198 \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hand his past and what he’d been through, 1404 00:57:46,198 --> 00:57:48,660 and he added a lot of color to that. 1405 00:57:48,660 --> 00:57:51,264 He gave me a notebook. 1406 00:57:51,264 --> 00:57:54,132 \hNow, this notebook were written all these phrases 1407 00:57:54,132 --> 00:57:56,528 and ideas he had \hfor interviews. 1408 00:57:56,528 --> 00:57:58,495 ♪ ♪ 1409 00:57:58,495 --> 00:58:00,066 \h\hAnd right there, sitting there, was, 1410 00:58:00,066 --> 00:58:02,066 "I’ve come here to chew bubble gum and kick ass, 1411 00:58:02,066 --> 00:58:04,264 and I’m all out of bubble gum." 1412 00:58:04,264 --> 00:58:06,330 I went, "That’s a great line. \h\h\h\h\hI could use that." 1413 00:58:06,330 --> 00:58:11,726 - I have come here to chew \hbubble gum and kick ass, 1414 00:58:11,726 --> 00:58:14,396 and I’m all out of bubble gum. 1415 00:58:14,396 --> 00:58:16,231 - Oh, [bleep]! \h\h\h[gunshot] 1416 00:58:17,528 --> 00:58:21,528 \h\h\h- That’s all his idea. That was all from his brain. 1417 00:58:21,528 --> 00:58:24,495 - I’ve never felt safer \h\h\h\h\h\hin my life 1418 00:58:24,495 --> 00:58:28,000 \h\hthan fighting with Roddy Piper. 1419 00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:30,363 [both grunting] 1420 00:58:30,759 --> 00:58:32,132 I believe that fight scene 1421 00:58:32,132 --> 00:58:35,099 \hlasts literally about seven minutes onscreen. 1422 00:58:35,099 --> 00:58:37,396 [both grunting and shouting] 1423 00:58:37,396 --> 00:58:38,396 - We really, you know, 1424 00:58:38,396 --> 00:58:40,264 choreographed the [bleep] \h\h\h\h\h\h\hout of it. 1425 00:58:40,264 --> 00:58:44,132 \h\hBut there was one time we were both so hyped up-- 1426 00:58:44,132 --> 00:58:45,495 I was especially hyped up-- 1427 00:58:45,495 --> 00:58:47,726 and that first punch, 1428 00:58:47,726 --> 00:58:49,066 I hit him right in the face. 1429 00:58:49,066 --> 00:58:52,099 And it was--and I’d be like, \h"Oh, [bleep]. Oh, [bleep]." 1430 00:58:52,099 --> 00:58:53,396 \h\h\h\h\h\hAnd he’s like, "Come on, man. Don’t worry. 1431 00:58:53,396 --> 00:58:56,660 \h\h"Come on, snap out of it. Come on, let’s start again." 1432 00:58:56,660 --> 00:58:58,099 And he was great. 1433 00:58:58,099 --> 00:59:02,330 - Brother, life’s a bitch. 1434 00:59:03,066 --> 00:59:04,594 Don’t feel sorry for me. 1435 00:59:04,594 --> 00:59:06,396 My name’s John Nada. 1436 00:59:06,396 --> 00:59:07,264 - [laughs] 1437 00:59:07,264 --> 00:59:09,264 \h\hA year and a half we were in Los Angeles 1438 00:59:09,264 --> 00:59:11,000 while he was filming \h\h\hthose movies. 1439 00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:12,396 He brought the scripts home, 1440 00:59:12,396 --> 00:59:13,528 and we’d go over them. 1441 00:59:13,528 --> 00:59:18,759 \hHe was always leaving to go to acting classes. 1442 00:59:18,759 --> 00:59:22,726 \hI mean, it was--it was a whole nother lifestyle. 1443 00:59:24,594 --> 00:59:27,000 \h\h\h- It was not like it was today, 1444 00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:28,396 where it’s a lot more flexible 1445 00:59:28,396 --> 00:59:30,495 \h\hfor wrestlers to also do acting. 1446 00:59:30,495 --> 00:59:32,594 Back then, it was, you didn’t do that. 1447 00:59:32,594 --> 00:59:34,594 It was not an easy road to be, 1448 00:59:34,594 --> 00:59:37,396 really, the first wrestler \h\h\h\h\hto go into film. 1449 00:59:37,396 --> 00:59:39,000 \h\h\h\h\h- When Vince was booking everything, 1450 00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:40,000 without Piper’s name, 1451 00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:42,759 it was real hard for us to make that transition 1452 00:59:42,759 --> 00:59:45,000 ’cause Piper was so hot \h\h\h\h\h\hat the time. 1453 00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:47,132 - If Roddy wanted to go off \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hand do film, 1454 00:59:47,132 --> 00:59:48,231 what am I going to say? 1455 00:59:48,231 --> 00:59:50,099 No, don’t take advantage \h\hof that opportunity? 1456 00:59:50,099 --> 00:59:51,726 \h\h\hAs long as I know that he’s coming back. 1457 00:59:51,726 --> 00:59:55,264 \h\h\h\h\h- He loved acting and he loved the work of it 1458 00:59:55,264 --> 00:59:56,726 but he felt alienated 1459 00:59:56,726 --> 00:59:58,660 and didn’t really have \h\h\ha lot in common 1460 00:59:58,660 --> 01:00:01,264 with a lot of the people \h\h\h\h\h\hin Hollywood. 1461 01:00:01,264 --> 01:00:04,396 \h\h- The only people that can understand me 1462 01:00:04,396 --> 01:00:06,198 are other wrestlers. 1463 01:00:06,198 --> 01:00:08,066 ♪ ♪ 1464 01:00:08,066 --> 01:00:11,462 I needed to come back \h\h\h\hto the WWE... 1465 01:00:11,462 --> 01:00:12,594 ♪ ♪ 1466 01:00:12,594 --> 01:00:14,660 and walk back in the front door. 1467 01:00:14,660 --> 01:00:20,528 ♪ ♪ 1468 01:00:20,528 --> 01:00:22,396 - Rowdy Roddy Piper! 1469 01:00:22,396 --> 01:00:27,627 \h- When I came back into wrestling from Hollywood, 1470 01:00:27,627 --> 01:00:33,264 bringing that credibility back \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hwas huge. 1471 01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:36,396 - As far as Roddy’s \h\h\hstandpoint is, 1472 01:00:36,396 --> 01:00:37,528 well, you had to bring me back 1473 01:00:37,528 --> 01:00:39,132 because I was the greatest \h\h\h\h\hstar of all time. 1474 01:00:39,132 --> 01:00:43,066 You know, that would be Roddy’s \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hpoint of view. 1475 01:00:43,066 --> 01:00:44,528 But it didn’t matter \h\h\hwhat you want. 1476 01:00:44,528 --> 01:00:46,363 You give the audience \h\h\hwhat they want. 1477 01:00:46,363 --> 01:00:49,462 They want Roddy to come back, \hwell, let’s give them Roddy. 1478 01:00:49,462 --> 01:00:52,660 - Standing ovation here \h\h\h\hfor Rowdy Roddy. 1479 01:00:52,660 --> 01:00:54,099 - And after a respite, 1480 01:00:54,099 --> 01:00:55,528 \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hyou know, Roddy’s ready to come back. 1481 01:00:55,528 --> 01:00:57,627 \h\h\hGreat, he’s fresh. He’s new all over again. 1482 01:00:57,627 --> 01:00:59,363 Different set of opponents. 1483 01:00:59,363 --> 01:01:01,000 - Mr. Downey? 1484 01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:02,594 - Yes, Mr. Piper? 1485 01:01:02,594 --> 01:01:05,066 - Don’t blow no more smoke in my face. 1486 01:01:05,066 --> 01:01:06,528 - Morton Downey, Jr., was a talk show host. 1487 01:01:06,528 --> 01:01:07,759 You know, he was a big mouth. 1488 01:01:07,759 --> 01:01:09,396 And Roddy had this impeccable timing. 1489 01:01:09,396 --> 01:01:13,066 So when Downey blows smoke \h\h\h\h\hin Roddy’s face, 1490 01:01:13,066 --> 01:01:16,396 \h\h\h\h\h\h\hit’s like, "One, two, three, four." 1491 01:01:16,396 --> 01:01:18,231 \h\h\h\h\hInstead of immediately doing it, 1492 01:01:18,231 --> 01:01:20,396 "Watch something’s going \h\h\h\h\hto happen now." 1493 01:01:20,396 --> 01:01:21,726 And then it does. 1494 01:01:21,726 --> 01:01:23,132 - Ya-ha! 1495 01:01:23,132 --> 01:01:24,363 [laughs] 1496 01:01:25,528 --> 01:01:27,132 - He was so creative. 1497 01:01:27,132 --> 01:01:29,495 - I think the fire is out, \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hJess. 1498 01:01:29,495 --> 01:01:31,396 - Very quick on his feet. 1499 01:01:31,396 --> 01:01:32,132 ♪ ♪ 1500 01:01:32,132 --> 01:01:35,528 \hBut at the same time, he was very opinionated 1501 01:01:35,528 --> 01:01:38,198 \h\h\hand wanted someone to listen to his opinion. 1502 01:01:38,198 --> 01:01:40,396 I listened to a lot \hof Roddy’s ideas, 1503 01:01:40,396 --> 01:01:42,000 some of which were really \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hdead on 1504 01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:45,000 \h\h\h\hand some of which were, whew, wow, that was out there. 1505 01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:47,264 - They say you shouldn’t blow \h\h\h\h\h\h\hyour own horn. 1506 01:01:47,264 --> 01:01:48,363 Don’t they say that? \h\h\h\h\h\hWhy not? 1507 01:01:48,363 --> 01:01:51,132 - You are the most arrogant individual 1508 01:01:51,132 --> 01:01:52,231 I think we’ve ever had. 1509 01:01:52,231 --> 01:01:54,231 \h\h- I believe Roddy once described our relationship 1510 01:01:54,231 --> 01:01:57,000 as a love-hate relationship. 1511 01:01:57,000 --> 01:01:57,726 We never fought. 1512 01:01:57,726 --> 01:02:00,396 There were a couple times \hwhen it was very close, 1513 01:02:00,396 --> 01:02:02,495 but that was the way it was \h\h\h\hback in those days. 1514 01:02:02,495 --> 01:02:05,528 A lot of times, you settled \h\hthings in a fistfight. 1515 01:02:05,528 --> 01:02:06,528 You just did. 1516 01:02:06,528 --> 01:02:09,528 - Vince and I were two peas \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hin a pod. 1517 01:02:09,528 --> 01:02:11,759 I love the ass[bleep]. 1518 01:02:11,759 --> 01:02:12,528 I do. 1519 01:02:12,528 --> 01:02:15,000 He’s an ass[bleep] sometimes. 1520 01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:17,132 So am I. 1521 01:02:17,132 --> 01:02:18,264 [crowd chanting "Roddy"] 1522 01:02:18,264 --> 01:02:22,363 \h\h\h\h\h\h- Roddy Piper was an attraction all to himself. 1523 01:02:22,363 --> 01:02:25,528 The fans could no longer \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hboo him. 1524 01:02:25,528 --> 01:02:26,462 ♪ ♪ 1525 01:02:26,462 --> 01:02:29,462 \h\h\h\hYou came to see Roddy Piper’s intensity, 1526 01:02:29,462 --> 01:02:31,594 \h\h\h\h\h\h\hyou came to hear his big mouth, 1527 01:02:31,594 --> 01:02:35,396 and you came to watch \h\h\h\hthat frenzied, 1528 01:02:35,396 --> 01:02:40,528 \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hkinetic spirit he brought between the ropes. 1529 01:02:40,528 --> 01:02:45,000 - Rowdy Roddy Piper! 1530 01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:49,627 \h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Whether he won or whether he was humiliated, 1531 01:02:49,627 --> 01:02:51,528 \h\h\h\hhe was a draw, and he remained a draw. 1532 01:02:51,528 --> 01:02:55,264 \h\h\h\h\h- We have a new intercontinental champion: 1533 01:02:55,264 --> 01:02:58,132 Hot Rod Rowdy Roddy Piper. 1534 01:02:58,132 --> 01:03:01,000 - Roddy Piper was maturing, 1535 01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:03,528 \hand it wasn’t all about Roddy 1536 01:03:03,528 --> 01:03:10,066 and Roddy was proving that, hey, I can make people too. 1537 01:03:10,066 --> 01:03:11,000 ♪ ♪ 1538 01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:14,264 - I wouldn’t lay my shoulders \h\h\h\h\h\hdown for anybody. 1539 01:03:14,264 --> 01:03:18,396 \hBut when I do, I make somebody, 1540 01:03:18,396 --> 01:03:20,000 and it means something. 1541 01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:22,594 \h\h\h\h\h\h- This is going to be something! 1542 01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:24,396 - This was a special match. 1543 01:03:24,396 --> 01:03:26,132 This is the biggest moment \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hin my life, 1544 01:03:26,132 --> 01:03:27,264 for sure, up to this point. 1545 01:03:27,264 --> 01:03:30,000 Roddy really launched me. 1546 01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:31,528 \h\hLike, my whole career just starting climbing, 1547 01:03:31,528 --> 01:03:35,099 \h\hand it was Roddy was the one that gave me that first boost. 1548 01:03:35,099 --> 01:03:38,066 - This is the first time these two men are meeting 1549 01:03:38,066 --> 01:03:40,000 for the World Wrestling \h\h\h\h\hEntertainment 1550 01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:40,660 intercontinental title. 1551 01:03:40,660 --> 01:03:43,660 - I think the last time--I think I did watch this, maybe, 1552 01:03:43,660 --> 01:03:44,396 when Roddy died. 1553 01:03:44,396 --> 01:03:45,528 I always make a point of, like, 1554 01:03:45,528 --> 01:03:48,198 \h\h\h\h\h\htrying to go back and find some good memories. 1555 01:03:48,198 --> 01:03:52,759 \h\h\h\h- I always felt Roddy took a special interest in me. 1556 01:03:52,759 --> 01:03:54,330 Roddy was born in Saskatoon, 1557 01:03:54,330 --> 01:03:56,132 and my dad grew up \h\hin Saskatoon. 1558 01:03:56,132 --> 01:03:59,066 And there was a possibility \h\h\h\h\hthat their name-- 1559 01:03:59,066 --> 01:04:00,363 like, they were in \hthe same family. 1560 01:04:00,363 --> 01:04:03,462 \h\h\h\hMaybe there was some blood between us. 1561 01:04:03,462 --> 01:04:05,264 When I first met him, 1562 01:04:05,264 --> 01:04:07,264 we joked that we might \h\h\h\h\hbe cousins. 1563 01:04:07,264 --> 01:04:08,462 Like, it was like, "Hey, cuz." 1564 01:04:08,462 --> 01:04:11,264 \hAnd I didn’t mind. I never minded Roddy being a cousin. 1565 01:04:11,264 --> 01:04:16,000 - I know this guy since he’d been knee-high to a grasshopper. 1566 01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:18,396 \hI remember when they were changing your potty pants. 1567 01:04:18,396 --> 01:04:22,000 - I think it was a message \hto the other wrestlers, 1568 01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:23,396 some of the other superstars 1569 01:04:23,396 --> 01:04:26,000 that weren’t in the habit \h\h\h\hof reaching down 1570 01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:26,759 to help the next guys. 1571 01:04:26,759 --> 01:04:29,132 \h\h\hRoddy was like, "Here, I’ll show you how it’s done." 1572 01:04:29,132 --> 01:04:31,330 - Eye-to-eye, nose-to-nose. 1573 01:04:31,330 --> 01:04:33,330 - But I was relieved \h\h\h\hto find out 1574 01:04:33,330 --> 01:04:35,363 that this guy’s really \h\h\hpitching for me. 1575 01:04:35,363 --> 01:04:38,528 He’s actually opening \h\hthe doors for me. 1576 01:04:39,132 --> 01:04:40,594 That match was Roddy’s match. 1577 01:04:40,594 --> 01:04:42,132 - Now Rowdy Roddy... 1578 01:04:42,132 --> 01:04:43,132 Oh, bulldog! 1579 01:04:43,132 --> 01:04:45,528 - Roddy put that match \h\h\h\h\h\htogether. 1580 01:04:45,528 --> 01:04:46,462 - Wide open! 1581 01:04:46,462 --> 01:04:51,000 \h\h- Roddy was so tuned in to what would work with the fans. 1582 01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:52,132 - He’s got the bell. 1583 01:04:52,132 --> 01:04:53,330 Piper’s gonna ring his bell. 1584 01:04:53,330 --> 01:04:57,462 \h\h\h- They don’t want him to brain me with the bell. 1585 01:04:58,066 --> 01:04:59,396 "No, no, don’t do it." 1586 01:04:59,396 --> 01:05:01,528 - He’s having second thoughts. 1587 01:05:01,528 --> 01:05:03,099 \h\h\h\h- His conscience gets the better of him, 1588 01:05:03,099 --> 01:05:07,330 and he changes his mind here \h\h\h\h\hand decides not to. 1589 01:05:08,363 --> 01:05:09,528 - Oh, look at that move 1590 01:05:09,528 --> 01:05:11,363 off the turnbuckle! 1591 01:05:11,363 --> 01:05:12,528 \h\h\hIt’s over! [crowd cheers] 1592 01:05:12,528 --> 01:05:15,132 - See that? Being a nice guy, \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hit cost him. 1593 01:05:15,132 --> 01:05:16,495 Idiot. 1594 01:05:17,462 --> 01:05:18,726 [laughs] 1595 01:05:18,726 --> 01:05:19,660 ♪ ♪ 1596 01:05:19,660 --> 01:05:22,264 \h\h\h\hOver the years, Roddy told me many times 1597 01:05:22,264 --> 01:05:24,264 that it was his most \h\h\hfavorite match, 1598 01:05:24,264 --> 01:05:28,330 \h\h\h\hand, you know, you never forget that. 1599 01:05:28,396 --> 01:05:29,726 - There’s an old saying \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hthat’s, 1600 01:05:29,726 --> 01:05:33,000 "You need a license to hunt. You need a license to fish. 1601 01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:34,396 "Any jerk can have a kid. 1602 01:05:34,396 --> 01:05:37,132 It takes a man to be a dad." 1603 01:05:37,132 --> 01:05:38,528 ♪ ♪ 1604 01:05:38,528 --> 01:05:39,132 Oh, man. 1605 01:05:39,132 --> 01:05:43,231 \h- When I look at my childhood, my dad was gone almost every day 1606 01:05:43,231 --> 01:05:44,594 \h\h\h\hfor at least up until I was five. 1607 01:05:44,594 --> 01:05:48,594 - The first, at least, \h12 years of my life, 1608 01:05:48,594 --> 01:05:50,264 he was gone for long periods \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hof time. 1609 01:05:50,264 --> 01:05:54,132 I think at one point, I didn’t \h\h\hsee him for over a year. 1610 01:05:54,132 --> 01:05:55,330 ♪ ♪ 1611 01:05:55,330 --> 01:05:56,627 \h- We both made the same choice, 1612 01:05:56,627 --> 01:05:57,759 that the wrestling business 1613 01:05:57,759 --> 01:06:00,594 took precedent over anything, \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\heven family, 1614 01:06:00,594 --> 01:06:02,099 so that’s a tough choice 1615 01:06:02,099 --> 01:06:03,528 to look in the mirror \h\h\hand live with. 1616 01:06:03,528 --> 01:06:09,726 \h\h- You were gone at least 300 days a year, every year. 1617 01:06:09,726 --> 01:06:13,396 \h\h\h\h\hRoddy was--like me, was a real strong family man. 1618 01:06:13,396 --> 01:06:16,264 \h\h\h\h\hYou know, you-- you commiserate together, 1619 01:06:16,264 --> 01:06:19,000 and you’re missing your kids’ \h\h\h\h\h\h\hbirthday parties 1620 01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:20,066 and you miss Halloween 1621 01:06:20,066 --> 01:06:23,066 and you miss all these little \h\hspecial days all the time. 1622 01:06:23,066 --> 01:06:24,132 You see pictures, 1623 01:06:24,132 --> 01:06:26,330 \h\h\hthe heartbreak at home of being gone all the time. 1624 01:06:26,330 --> 01:06:29,363 \h\h\hYou know, it’s just this very tough part of your life. 1625 01:06:29,363 --> 01:06:34,528 - When Roddy would come home \h\h\h\hand have to be Dad, 1626 01:06:34,528 --> 01:06:37,363 he was always fun. 1627 01:06:37,363 --> 01:06:39,000 [kids chattering excitedly] 1628 01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:42,495 He would spoil them rotten. 1629 01:06:43,231 --> 01:06:45,132 He would pull them \h\hout of school, 1630 01:06:45,132 --> 01:06:48,066 \h\hdidn’t matter what was going on. 1631 01:06:48,462 --> 01:06:49,396 [girls screaming] 1632 01:06:49,396 --> 01:06:55,363 Christmas, he was always home, \hand always lots of presents. 1633 01:06:55,660 --> 01:06:58,198 \h\h\h\h\h\h- Hey, you! - A lot of cuddle time. 1634 01:06:58,198 --> 01:07:02,660 \h\h\hHe was trying very hard to create what he didn’t have. 1635 01:07:02,660 --> 01:07:07,132 \h\h\h\h- He would come home, and he would be so exhausted, 1636 01:07:07,132 --> 01:07:09,066 \h\h\h\h\h\h\hyou know, while trying to see us. 1637 01:07:09,066 --> 01:07:11,231 And then he would want \h\h\h\h\h\hto have fun 1638 01:07:11,231 --> 01:07:12,726 or just do something \h\h\h\has a family. 1639 01:07:12,726 --> 01:07:15,660 \hAnd then immediately, like, as soon as we were having fun, 1640 01:07:15,660 --> 01:07:19,000 \h\h\h\hyou could see him getting antsy about work. 1641 01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:21,330 You could see it start to tick \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hlike a clock, 1642 01:07:21,330 --> 01:07:22,660 going faster and faster. 1643 01:07:22,660 --> 01:07:24,132 And I think he missed it. 1644 01:07:24,132 --> 01:07:26,099 You know, he missed us \h\hwhen he was gone, 1645 01:07:26,099 --> 01:07:29,066 and he missed the action \h\h\hwhen he was home. 1646 01:07:29,066 --> 01:07:31,132 - He was like a runaway \h\has a kid growing up 1647 01:07:31,132 --> 01:07:35,528 and spent a lot of time on the \h\hroad in his own mind-set. 1648 01:07:35,528 --> 01:07:38,066 Like, Roddy against the world. 1649 01:07:38,066 --> 01:07:41,264 \h\hHe was not like any other wrestler. 1650 01:07:41,264 --> 01:07:43,363 He was in his own world. 1651 01:07:43,363 --> 01:07:46,132 \h\hI think that world also meant going away. 1652 01:07:46,132 --> 01:07:50,660 - I’m gonna get 30 minutes \hwith my dad this month. 1653 01:07:50,660 --> 01:07:52,528 I just want to hug him, \h\h\h\hcuddle with him, 1654 01:07:52,528 --> 01:07:55,495 kiss him, and do whatever \h\h\hI can in that time, 1655 01:07:55,495 --> 01:07:56,627 because I literally get him 1656 01:07:56,627 --> 01:07:58,198 on his transfer layover flight. 1657 01:07:58,198 --> 01:08:01,066 He wasn’t an NFL player \h\hthat had a season. 1658 01:08:01,066 --> 01:08:01,759 He went 365. 1659 01:08:01,759 --> 01:08:03,330 - [plays note] - There you go. 1660 01:08:03,330 --> 01:08:05,660 - They never liked \h\hseeing him go, 1661 01:08:05,660 --> 01:08:07,330 \h\h\h\heveryone, including myself. 1662 01:08:07,330 --> 01:08:09,660 \h\h\h- If you could wish for anything in the whole world, 1663 01:08:09,660 --> 01:08:10,726 what would you wish for? 1664 01:08:10,726 --> 01:08:15,495 - For my family to be together \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hall the time. 1665 01:08:21,528 --> 01:08:23,000 You know, it’s hard not \h\h\h\h\h\hto get sad 1666 01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:25,528 when he’s going out the door, \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hbut... 1667 01:08:25,528 --> 01:08:27,594 \h\h\h\hSorry. [clears throat] 1668 01:08:28,528 --> 01:08:29,759 [exhales] 1669 01:08:29,759 --> 01:08:33,132 ♪ ♪ 1670 01:08:33,132 --> 01:08:39,000 \h\h\h[whispers] I need a minute. 1671 01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:39,264 ♪ ♪ 1672 01:08:39,264 --> 01:08:43,462 - It’s hard to live with a man \hthat has constant injuries. 1673 01:08:43,462 --> 01:08:48,726 \h\h\hOf course, they varied from bruises to broken bones. 1674 01:08:48,726 --> 01:08:53,132 He never let on how bad \h\h\h\hhe was hurting. 1675 01:08:53,132 --> 01:08:57,726 I would beg him to sit still and recover from an injury. 1676 01:08:57,726 --> 01:08:58,726 Yes, yes, I would. 1677 01:08:58,726 --> 01:09:03,264 \h\h\h\hBut you cannot make Rod do anything he doesn’t want to. 1678 01:09:03,264 --> 01:09:04,132 ♪ ♪ 1679 01:09:04,132 --> 01:09:07,264 - Dad was injured \h90% of the time. 1680 01:09:07,264 --> 01:09:08,099 ♪ ♪ 1681 01:09:08,099 --> 01:09:10,132 \hSo when I say I had to lace his boots up 1682 01:09:10,132 --> 01:09:11,528 since I was eight years old, 1683 01:09:11,528 --> 01:09:14,330 it’s because it physically \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hhurt him. 1684 01:09:15,528 --> 01:09:18,264 \h\h- He is sorely outnumbered here. 1685 01:09:18,264 --> 01:09:22,264 - I remember the first time \h\hthat I really felt, like, 1686 01:09:22,264 --> 01:09:23,462 wow, he is mortal. 1687 01:09:23,462 --> 01:09:27,099 - Hogan gives a whuppin’ \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hon him. 1688 01:09:27,099 --> 01:09:30,264 - And truly hating Hogan. 1689 01:09:30,264 --> 01:09:31,363 [crowd cheering] 1690 01:09:31,363 --> 01:09:32,660 - They can’t hold him down! 1691 01:09:32,660 --> 01:09:36,363 - The hardest thing \has a kid, for me, 1692 01:09:36,363 --> 01:09:37,726 was knowing your dad’s \h\h\h\h\h\h\hinjuries. 1693 01:09:37,726 --> 01:09:39,396 - And he had just had \ha hip replacement. 1694 01:09:39,396 --> 01:09:42,066 - Showing that scar there. \h\h\h\h\hYou can see it. 1695 01:09:42,066 --> 01:09:44,066 \h\h\h\h\h- He had a scar from the hip replacement. 1696 01:09:44,066 --> 01:09:47,132 Hulk Hogan took a chair \h\h\h\hand hit my dad. 1697 01:09:47,132 --> 01:09:49,066 - Oh, no! No! 1698 01:09:49,066 --> 01:09:50,363 - He’s not supposed \hto be wrestling. 1699 01:09:50,363 --> 01:09:53,132 We were told he might not \h\h\h\heven walk again. 1700 01:09:53,132 --> 01:09:54,495 ♪ ♪ 1701 01:09:54,495 --> 01:09:57,528 \h\h\h- I just remember breaking down in tears 1702 01:09:57,528 --> 01:10:00,759 because, for the first time, \h\h\h\h\h\hit became real. 1703 01:10:00,759 --> 01:10:03,627 - Roddy! Roddy! Roddy! 1704 01:10:03,627 --> 01:10:04,660 - So at that point, 1705 01:10:04,660 --> 01:10:08,000 my parents stopped letting us \h\h\h\h\h\hwatch altogether. 1706 01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:11,099 - When we had the inside \hand the outside view, 1707 01:10:11,099 --> 01:10:12,726 it was really rough. 1708 01:10:12,726 --> 01:10:15,462 - I mean, he was just \h\h\hin constant pain 1709 01:10:15,462 --> 01:10:17,528 and yet could work through it. 1710 01:10:17,528 --> 01:10:21,627 \h\h\h\h\hAs he got older, he had a shoulder injury, 1711 01:10:21,627 --> 01:10:24,660 and his arm would just hang, like, a couple inches lower 1712 01:10:24,660 --> 01:10:27,396 \h\h\h\h\hthan the other arm, and he was probably like that 1713 01:10:27,396 --> 01:10:28,396 for a year or two. 1714 01:10:28,396 --> 01:10:29,363 It turned out his, like-- 1715 01:10:29,363 --> 01:10:32,132 \h\h\h\hthey pulled out something like five or six shattered bones 1716 01:10:32,132 --> 01:10:35,132 \h\h\h\hthat were just, like, floating around his shoulder. 1717 01:10:35,132 --> 01:10:37,594 - It was kind of fascinating 1718 01:10:37,594 --> 01:10:40,396 for me to see him behind the scenes 1719 01:10:40,396 --> 01:10:42,594 \hhaving a hard time getting out of bed, 1720 01:10:42,594 --> 01:10:44,000 having a hard time walking, 1721 01:10:44,000 --> 01:10:46,528 and two hours later, \h\hhe’s in the ring 1722 01:10:46,528 --> 01:10:49,132 and you’d never know anything was wrong 1723 01:10:49,132 --> 01:10:50,231 because he loved it. 1724 01:10:50,231 --> 01:10:51,528 He loved putting on a show. 1725 01:10:51,528 --> 01:10:56,660 \h\h\hIt really was just two completely different lives. 1726 01:10:56,660 --> 01:10:59,264 ♪ ♪ 1727 01:10:59,264 --> 01:11:04,000 - During the time of 2003 \hwhen Dad talked to HBO, 1728 01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:05,396 it was a dark time for Dad 1729 01:11:05,396 --> 01:11:07,627 in front of the camera \h\h\h\h\hand at home. 1730 01:11:07,627 --> 01:11:09,660 - Everybody’s dead. 1731 01:11:09,660 --> 01:11:12,231 They’re all dying early, 1732 01:11:12,231 --> 01:11:15,330 and nobody cares about it. 1733 01:11:15,330 --> 01:11:17,528 - What the hell is he doing? 1734 01:11:17,528 --> 01:11:21,594 And what the hell is he saying? \h\h\h\h\h\hIt’s like, really? 1735 01:11:21,594 --> 01:11:26,000 \h\h\h\h\h\h\h- They take them and they screw them up so much 1736 01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:30,132 and they being the rash \h\h\h\h\hof promoters 1737 01:11:30,132 --> 01:11:32,000 that I’ve gone through \h\h\hin the 33 years. 1738 01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:33,627 \h- And a lot of times you lash out, you know, 1739 01:11:33,627 --> 01:11:37,198 and that’s what Roddy was \hdoing was lashing out. 1740 01:11:37,198 --> 01:11:38,000 ♪ ♪ 1741 01:11:38,000 --> 01:11:42,132 \h- A lot of his friends had started passing away, 1742 01:11:42,132 --> 01:11:45,264 \h\hand it makes you worry and it makes you concerned, 1743 01:11:45,264 --> 01:11:49,198 and so that’s when he started \h\h\h\hbeing vocal about it. 1744 01:11:49,198 --> 01:11:50,759 - I know he blamed the company 1745 01:11:50,759 --> 01:11:53,264 for just about everything \h\h\hin the interviews, 1746 01:11:53,264 --> 01:11:56,594 \h\hbut at that time, he had lost so much. 1747 01:11:56,594 --> 01:11:58,330 He wasn’t wrestling. \h\h\h\hHe was hurt. 1748 01:11:58,330 --> 01:12:01,330 \h\h\h\h\hHe was just trying to stand up for his buddies. 1749 01:12:01,330 --> 01:12:03,660 \hBut later on, towards the end, 1750 01:12:03,660 --> 01:12:05,264 Dad had talked to me and, \h\h\h\hyou know, he said, 1751 01:12:05,264 --> 01:12:08,528 "It’s the business we get into. \hWe know what it is, you know. 1752 01:12:08,528 --> 01:12:11,000 \h"We don’t get in there thinking we’re gonna live 1753 01:12:11,000 --> 01:12:12,198 to 70, 80 years old." 1754 01:12:12,198 --> 01:12:16,462 \h\h\h- What would you have me do at 49 when, 1755 01:12:16,462 --> 01:12:19,264 \h\h\h\hlike, my pension plan, I can’t take out until I’m 65. 1756 01:12:19,264 --> 01:12:22,627 \h\h\hI’m not gonna make 65. Let’s just face facts, guys. 1757 01:12:22,627 --> 01:12:25,660 \h\h\h- When someone says really rotten thing about your company, 1758 01:12:25,660 --> 01:12:29,000 \hyou know, you’re not gonna welcome them with open arms. 1759 01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:33,264 \h\hYou know, you’re gonna say, "Time for us to say good-bye." 1760 01:12:33,264 --> 01:12:34,528 ♪ ♪ 1761 01:12:34,528 --> 01:12:38,000 - He wasn’t expecting \h\hthe consequences. 1762 01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:39,132 He lost a contract. 1763 01:12:39,132 --> 01:12:40,396 It was pretty bad \h\hfor our family 1764 01:12:40,396 --> 01:12:42,066 \h\has far as, like, our well-being goes. 1765 01:12:42,066 --> 01:12:46,000 I think he felt very lost, \h\h\h\h\hvery depressed, 1766 01:12:46,000 --> 01:12:48,660 a little bit reckless \h\hwith his behavior. 1767 01:12:48,660 --> 01:12:50,231 \h\h\h\h\h\hObviously, with the HBO interview, 1768 01:12:50,231 --> 01:12:51,264 that’s a good example. 1769 01:12:51,264 --> 01:12:54,264 And, you know, I’ve talked \habout him having demons, 1770 01:12:54,264 --> 01:12:56,495 and I think that this was \hsort of like the height 1771 01:12:56,495 --> 01:13:00,132 \h\hof his demons coming out was this period of his life. 1772 01:13:00,132 --> 01:13:04,495 ♪ ♪ 1773 01:13:04,495 --> 01:13:06,528 - Yeah, nothing’s permanent \h\h\h\h\hin this business, 1774 01:13:06,528 --> 01:13:08,726 and as Piper’s been fired, 1775 01:13:08,726 --> 01:13:10,132 I’ve been fired a couple times. 1776 01:13:10,132 --> 01:13:11,396 You know, but things change 1777 01:13:11,396 --> 01:13:14,396 \h\h\hand, you know, the president or... 1778 01:13:14,396 --> 01:13:16,264 \h\hOJ or somebody will do something 1779 01:13:16,264 --> 01:13:18,099 \h\h\h\hthat takes precedent over something that we did. 1780 01:13:18,099 --> 01:13:21,363 So I think Vince understands \h\h\hthat he’s dealing with 1781 01:13:21,363 --> 01:13:24,264 \h\h\ha bunch of high, intense personalities. 1782 01:13:24,264 --> 01:13:26,264 But Vince has been \hpretty forgiving. 1783 01:13:26,264 --> 01:13:28,759 - Whoo! Ladies and gentlemen, \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hI give you-- 1784 01:13:28,759 --> 01:13:33,462 I give you the most gifted entertainer 1785 01:13:33,462 --> 01:13:38,000 \h\h\h\h\h\hin the history of professional wrestling: 1786 01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:41,132 my man, the Hot Rod. 1787 01:13:41,132 --> 01:13:44,264 [playing bagpipe music] 1788 01:13:44,264 --> 01:13:45,528 - I think it was huge for him, 1789 01:13:45,528 --> 01:13:47,396 you know, ’cause his whole \h\h\hlife was wrestling. 1790 01:13:47,396 --> 01:13:50,660 Even though wrestling \h\his an exhibition, 1791 01:13:50,660 --> 01:13:53,396 \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hfor us, the Hall of Fame is real. 1792 01:13:53,396 --> 01:13:56,000 [crowd chanting "Roddy"] 1793 01:13:56,000 --> 01:13:58,660 Roddy! Roddy! Roddy! Roddy! 1794 01:13:58,660 --> 01:13:59,627 ♪ ♪ 1795 01:13:59,627 --> 01:14:02,330 - I want to tell you this. 1796 01:14:03,528 --> 01:14:05,363 I love you s... 1797 01:14:05,363 --> 01:14:06,396 [chuckles] 1798 01:14:06,396 --> 01:14:07,528 [laughter] 1799 01:14:07,528 --> 01:14:10,198 I love you so much, man. 1800 01:14:10,198 --> 01:14:13,660 \h\h\hI love you so much, but I guarantee you this: 1801 01:14:13,660 --> 01:14:19,396 \hmy name is Rowdy Roddy Piper, and you ain’t seen nothing yet. 1802 01:14:29,264 --> 01:14:32,396 [solemn music] 1803 01:14:32,396 --> 01:14:36,132 ♪ ♪ 1804 01:14:36,132 --> 01:14:37,594 [pen scratching] 1805 01:14:37,594 --> 01:14:39,594 - You can find sympathy \h\h\hin the dictionary 1806 01:14:39,594 --> 01:14:42,396 between [bleep] and suicide. 1807 01:14:42,396 --> 01:14:44,198 ♪ ♪ 1808 01:14:44,198 --> 01:14:46,066 - Roddy was definitely \h\h\h\h\h\hdepressed 1809 01:14:46,066 --> 01:14:49,594 off and on during his life. 1810 01:14:49,594 --> 01:14:53,264 You know, you’re either up \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h100% 1811 01:14:53,264 --> 01:14:54,231 or you’re kind of down, 1812 01:14:54,231 --> 01:14:58,264 and it was always hard for him \h\h\hto find the middle spot. 1813 01:14:58,528 --> 01:15:01,396 One of the demons was that time in his life 1814 01:15:01,396 --> 01:15:05,396 as a teenager when he was \hsurviving on the street. 1815 01:15:05,396 --> 01:15:07,330 He never let that go. 1816 01:15:07,330 --> 01:15:08,363 - I was so young. 1817 01:15:08,363 --> 01:15:11,396 \h\h\h\hI had to fight for everything I had. 1818 01:15:11,396 --> 01:15:14,396 ♪ ♪ 1819 01:15:14,396 --> 01:15:16,000 Oh, man. 1820 01:15:16,000 --> 01:15:17,396 ♪ ♪ 1821 01:15:17,396 --> 01:15:19,396 - He told me some stuff \h\habout his childhood 1822 01:15:19,396 --> 01:15:20,462 and living on the street. 1823 01:15:20,462 --> 01:15:23,198 He was in a bad spot \hand used and abused 1824 01:15:23,198 --> 01:15:27,198 and just a lot of bad stuff \h\h\h\hthat I had no idea. 1825 01:15:27,198 --> 01:15:27,759 ♪ ♪ 1826 01:15:27,759 --> 01:15:31,264 \h\h\h\h\h- Nobody--you know, nobody feel sorry for me, man. 1827 01:15:31,264 --> 01:15:33,000 - You know, he had phoned me \h\h\h\h\h\h\hfrom the road, 1828 01:15:33,000 --> 01:15:35,660 and he’d been in his hotel \h\h\hroom for three days 1829 01:15:35,660 --> 01:15:37,000 with the lights off. 1830 01:15:37,000 --> 01:15:39,264 \h\h\h\h\hHe was depressed. There was things on his mind 1831 01:15:39,264 --> 01:15:41,660 \h\hthat went back to his childhood. 1832 01:15:41,660 --> 01:15:42,726 ♪ ♪ 1833 01:15:42,726 --> 01:15:46,660 \h\hHis mind went to spots that weren’t good for him. 1834 01:15:46,660 --> 01:15:47,627 ♪ ♪ 1835 01:15:47,627 --> 01:15:51,495 - He still had that crumbling \h\h\h\h\hpart inside his soul 1836 01:15:51,495 --> 01:15:53,528 that he could never mend. 1837 01:15:53,528 --> 01:15:55,132 He was so depressed at times, 1838 01:15:55,132 --> 01:15:59,363 I’m sure that he did \h\hthink of suicide. 1839 01:15:59,363 --> 01:16:00,726 He wouldn’t follow through \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hwith it 1840 01:16:00,726 --> 01:16:02,330 because, as he would be the first to say, 1841 01:16:02,330 --> 01:16:05,099 \h\h\h\h\h\hhe’s not a coward, and that’s a coward’s way out. 1842 01:16:05,099 --> 01:16:10,363 But he was so sad at times \h\h\h\h\h\hinside himself 1843 01:16:10,363 --> 01:16:13,396 \hthat I know that he did think that occasionally, 1844 01:16:13,396 --> 01:16:15,528 and that’s heartbreaking. 1845 01:16:23,132 --> 01:16:24,132 - At 242 pounds, 1846 01:16:24,132 --> 01:16:27,594 \h\h\hthe Hot Rod, Rowdy Roddy Piper. 1847 01:16:27,594 --> 01:16:30,660 [playing jaunty piano music] 1848 01:16:30,660 --> 01:16:33,495 \h\h\h\h- Hey, buddy! - How you doing, pal? 1849 01:16:33,495 --> 01:16:35,396 \h\h\h\hYeah. Nice. - Good to see you! 1850 01:16:35,396 --> 01:16:37,000 - Good to see you too. \h\h\h\h\hBeen in jail. 1851 01:16:37,000 --> 01:16:39,264 \h\h\h\h- As he started to wind down wrestling, 1852 01:16:39,264 --> 01:16:41,132 he really started to have fun 1853 01:16:41,132 --> 01:16:45,594 \hgoing into acting as well as comedy. 1854 01:16:51,000 --> 01:16:51,660 [laughter] 1855 01:16:51,660 --> 01:16:54,000 \h\h- In a weird way, I think it was a nice, 1856 01:16:54,000 --> 01:16:56,099 therapeutic thing \hthat he realized 1857 01:16:56,099 --> 01:16:58,000 that just because he couldn’t \h\h\h\h\h\h\hwrestle anymore 1858 01:16:58,000 --> 01:17:00,330 \h\h\h\h\h\h\hdidn’t mean that he couldn’t perform. 1859 01:17:05,528 --> 01:17:07,000 [laughter] 1860 01:17:09,660 --> 01:17:11,264 - He enjoyed telling \h\h\hthese stories, 1861 01:17:11,264 --> 01:17:12,528 he enjoyed connecting \h\h\hwith his fans, 1862 01:17:12,528 --> 01:17:15,264 \hand that was something that he was very passionate about. 1863 01:17:15,264 --> 01:17:19,198 - May all your dreams come true. God bless you. 1864 01:17:19,198 --> 01:17:21,132 \h\h\h\h[applause] - How cool is that? 1865 01:17:21,132 --> 01:17:23,660 Rowdy Roddy Piper! 1866 01:17:23,660 --> 01:17:26,132 January of 2009, 1867 01:17:26,132 --> 01:17:28,594 his manager reached out \h\h\h\h\h\h\hand said, 1868 01:17:28,594 --> 01:17:30,132 "Would you have any interest 1869 01:17:30,132 --> 01:17:34,528 in helping Roddy cultivate \h\ha stand-up comedy act?" 1870 01:17:34,528 --> 01:17:37,528 And I was like, "Absolutely." 1871 01:17:37,528 --> 01:17:38,594 Because here’s the thing: 1872 01:17:38,594 --> 01:17:41,099 when you watch pro wrestling \h\h\h\h\h\h\hwith brothers, 1873 01:17:41,099 --> 01:17:42,198 that wasn’t even a TV show. 1874 01:17:42,198 --> 01:17:45,495 That was an instruction guide \hon how to hurt each other. 1875 01:17:45,495 --> 01:17:46,462 That’s all it was. 1876 01:17:46,462 --> 01:17:51,264 I grew up the middle of three boys in suburban Philadelphia 1877 01:17:51,264 --> 01:17:56,462 \h\hin really the Golden Age of modern professional wrestling. 1878 01:17:56,462 --> 01:17:57,330 ♪ ♪ 1879 01:17:57,330 --> 01:18:01,528 I remember being a kid \h\hwhen he showed up. 1880 01:18:01,528 --> 01:18:03,066 He was the worst. 1881 01:18:03,066 --> 01:18:04,132 \h\h\h\h\h\h\h[laughs] Like, I remember being 1882 01:18:04,132 --> 01:18:07,132 \ha chubby 11-year-old kid buying a T-shirt that said, 1883 01:18:07,132 --> 01:18:08,363 "I hate Rowdy Roddy Piper." 1884 01:18:08,363 --> 01:18:14,132 \h\h\hLike, he could get you to yell at a television set. 1885 01:18:14,132 --> 01:18:15,330 ♪ ♪ 1886 01:18:15,330 --> 01:18:19,099 \h\h\h\hAnd meeting Roddy was like meeting somebody 1887 01:18:19,099 --> 01:18:20,264 out of a comic book. 1888 01:18:20,264 --> 01:18:22,726 That began a really cool \h\h\h\h\h\hrelationship 1889 01:18:22,726 --> 01:18:24,264 where I would just listen to stories 1890 01:18:24,264 --> 01:18:30,528 and try to help him craft that into some sort of cohesive act. 1891 01:18:35,660 --> 01:18:41,132 \h\h- As a comedian, I have a unbelievable amount of respect 1892 01:18:41,132 --> 01:18:44,759 for somebody that can connect \h\h\h\h\h\h\hwith audiences 1893 01:18:44,759 --> 01:18:46,000 on such a deep level. 1894 01:18:46,000 --> 01:18:48,594 That was his mutant ability. 1895 01:18:48,594 --> 01:18:51,099 - Like that power walking... 1896 01:18:51,099 --> 01:18:52,396 [laughter] 1897 01:18:52,396 --> 01:18:55,099 - I got to go through Roddy’s life with him 1898 01:18:55,099 --> 01:18:56,066 on a comedic journey, 1899 01:18:56,066 --> 01:19:01,594 but hearing his life experience \h\h\h\h\hwas just so amazing. 1900 01:19:05,627 --> 01:19:07,528 \h- Roddy’s darkness is one of the things 1901 01:19:07,528 --> 01:19:09,627 \h\h\hthat drew him to stand-up comedy. 1902 01:19:09,627 --> 01:19:13,330 [playing harmonica] 1903 01:19:13,396 --> 01:19:15,627 You can turn pain into joy, 1904 01:19:15,627 --> 01:19:21,000 and making people laugh \h\hmeant a lot to him. 1905 01:19:21,000 --> 01:19:25,759 ♪ ♪ 1906 01:19:25,759 --> 01:19:27,396 - He is the WWE \h\hHall of Famer 1907 01:19:27,396 --> 01:19:31,528 and one of the all-time greats, \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hRowdy Roddy Piper. 1908 01:19:31,528 --> 01:19:33,198 \h- When he would get off the road, 1909 01:19:33,198 --> 01:19:35,528 he would be tired or hurt, \h\h\h\hand he’d recover. 1910 01:19:35,528 --> 01:19:39,000 But there was never a time \hthat he did an interview 1911 01:19:39,000 --> 01:19:41,726 \h\h\h\hor he got on camera and he couldn’t turn it on. 1912 01:19:41,726 --> 01:19:43,726 - What was the question? \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h[laughs] 1913 01:19:43,726 --> 01:19:46,000 - This time was different. 1914 01:19:46,000 --> 01:19:47,396 He had this interview. 1915 01:19:47,396 --> 01:19:49,231 And he gets on and he’s, like, 1916 01:19:49,231 --> 01:19:50,660 can’t put his thoughts \h\h\h\h\h\h\htogether. 1917 01:19:50,660 --> 01:19:54,396 - Nah, but--but what I don’t \h\h\h\hthink is an honor... 1918 01:19:55,264 --> 01:19:57,396 \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hUh... Let me--let me try to do this. 1919 01:19:57,396 --> 01:19:59,660 - It’s one of those things \hthat, as a family member, 1920 01:19:59,660 --> 01:20:02,099 when you know someone close \h\h\h\h\hand you’re like, 1921 01:20:02,099 --> 01:20:03,264 "They’re being odd." 1922 01:20:03,264 --> 01:20:05,000 - I went into a-- excuse me. 1923 01:20:05,000 --> 01:20:08,528 I went into a Mexican... uh, restaurant 1924 01:20:08,528 --> 01:20:11,627 with my youngest daughter, who’s, uh... 1925 01:20:11,627 --> 01:20:14,264 - It was heartbreaking 1926 01:20:14,264 --> 01:20:16,396 because that was not \h\h\hthe man I knew. 1927 01:20:16,396 --> 01:20:19,264 There was obvious problem \h\h\h\h\h\hhe was having. 1928 01:20:19,264 --> 01:20:20,495 - I just think that... 1929 01:20:20,495 --> 01:20:25,528 \h- It was like the moment the world knew something was wrong. 1930 01:20:25,528 --> 01:20:27,198 ♪ ♪ 1931 01:20:27,198 --> 01:20:31,264 And a few days later, \h\h\hRoddy was home. 1932 01:20:31,264 --> 01:20:32,726 He was very tired that night. 1933 01:20:32,726 --> 01:20:35,264 \h\hWe were gonna go see his doctor the next day. 1934 01:20:35,264 --> 01:20:37,396 We decided to do that. 1935 01:20:37,396 --> 01:20:39,066 And we went to bed 1936 01:20:39,066 --> 01:20:41,660 and he passed away \h\h\hin his sleep. 1937 01:20:41,660 --> 01:20:43,000 ♪ ♪ 1938 01:20:43,000 --> 01:20:44,132 - His heart failed. 1939 01:20:44,132 --> 01:20:47,066 \hAs far as the specifics as to what was causing it, 1940 01:20:47,066 --> 01:20:51,396 it probably was a combination \h\h\h\h\hof his entire life. 1941 01:20:51,396 --> 01:20:52,330 ♪ ♪ 1942 01:20:52,330 --> 01:20:57,099 \h\h\h\h- I am so grateful that he was home because, 1943 01:20:57,099 --> 01:20:58,528 even at that age, 1944 01:20:58,528 --> 01:21:03,264 \hso many days of the year, he was gone away from home, 1945 01:21:03,264 --> 01:21:05,132 and he could have been alone. 1946 01:21:05,132 --> 01:21:06,594 \h\h\h\hSorry. [clears throat] 1947 01:21:06,594 --> 01:21:10,660 And I’m just very grateful \hthat he was home with me 1948 01:21:10,660 --> 01:21:12,330 when he passed. 1949 01:21:12,330 --> 01:21:15,660 ♪ ♪ 1950 01:21:15,660 --> 01:21:19,264 \h\h- You know, the news came that he passed away, you know. 1951 01:21:19,264 --> 01:21:22,330 \hI felt like I got shot in the chest with a cannon, you know. 1952 01:21:22,330 --> 01:21:26,627 And it kind of like knocked me \h\hoff track for a couple days, 1953 01:21:26,627 --> 01:21:30,000 and now all of a sudden, I get this voice message. 1954 01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:31,528 It was really weird \h\hbecause either 1955 01:21:31,528 --> 01:21:32,594 my phone was messed up, 1956 01:21:32,594 --> 01:21:35,462 \h\h\h\hsometimes you’ll get a text message at that night 1957 01:21:35,462 --> 01:21:38,000 when it was sent to you \h\h\h\hin the morning. 1958 01:21:47,099 --> 01:21:48,231 - That really spooked me out. 1959 01:21:48,231 --> 01:21:51,132 \h\hLike, hmm, alien thing, you know, like "Close Encounters." 1960 01:21:51,132 --> 01:21:54,396 \h\hIt was just crazy to get a voice message from somebody 1961 01:21:54,396 --> 01:21:57,000 \h\h\h\hafter they passed away, and especially for him to say, 1962 01:21:57,000 --> 01:21:59,363 "I’m loving you and walking \h\hwith Jesus, my brother. 1963 01:21:59,363 --> 01:22:01,528 \h\h\h\h\hJust loving you and walking with Jesus." 1964 01:22:01,528 --> 01:22:03,660 I was like, "Wow." 1965 01:22:03,660 --> 01:22:06,264 Totally screwed me up. 1966 01:22:08,330 --> 01:22:11,528 [wistful music] 1967 01:22:11,528 --> 01:22:17,627 ♪ ♪ 1968 01:22:17,627 --> 01:22:19,594 - All right, guys. 1969 01:22:21,726 --> 01:22:25,396 [overlapping chatter] 1970 01:22:26,627 --> 01:22:28,066 - It is. 1971 01:22:37,066 --> 01:22:39,099 - Hey, nice to see you again. \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hHow are you? 1972 01:22:39,099 --> 01:22:41,132 - So good to see you. \h\h\h\h\hOh, my God. 1973 01:22:41,132 --> 01:22:42,462 When I first started doing MMA, 1974 01:22:42,462 --> 01:22:43,759 I was trying to think \h\hof a fight name, 1975 01:22:43,759 --> 01:22:46,132 and, of course, the first thing \h\h\hthat everybody thought of 1976 01:22:46,132 --> 01:22:48,000 was like, "What do you think \h\h\h\h\h\has a fight name?" 1977 01:22:48,000 --> 01:22:49,264 \h\h\h\h"Well, Rowdy. Rowdy Ronda Rousey." 1978 01:22:49,264 --> 01:22:50,660 Like, I know, but it’s like \h\h\h\hRowdy Roddy Piper. 1979 01:22:50,660 --> 01:22:52,330 \h\h\h\hAnd he has that. I don’t want to steal it 1980 01:22:52,330 --> 01:22:57,528 until I happened to see \hthe original rowdy one 1981 01:22:57,528 --> 01:22:59,627 and got his blessing 1982 01:22:59,627 --> 01:23:01,198 and, yeah, he was very \h\h\h\hsweet about it. 1983 01:23:01,198 --> 01:23:03,264 He was like, "Yeah, sure, kid. \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hNo problem. 1984 01:23:03,264 --> 01:23:05,528 Better do the name proud." \h\hOr something like that. 1985 01:23:05,528 --> 01:23:07,099 I don’t know. \h\h[laughs] 1986 01:23:07,099 --> 01:23:09,264 - And then Kitty, my mom. \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Hi. 1987 01:23:09,264 --> 01:23:16,396 ♪ ♪ 1988 01:23:29,462 --> 01:23:30,594 No one can do it better. 1989 01:23:30,594 --> 01:23:32,198 - [laughs] Thank you so much. 1990 01:23:32,198 --> 01:23:33,264 Thank you so, so much. 1991 01:23:33,264 --> 01:23:36,528 - He was a loner and a wolf, 1992 01:23:36,528 --> 01:23:41,396 and he was often \hmisunderstood. 1993 01:23:42,363 --> 01:23:45,132 - I was so wild, 1994 01:23:45,132 --> 01:23:46,726 scary wild. 1995 01:23:46,726 --> 01:23:50,363 - But he was always 100% \h\h\h\h\hin your face. 1996 01:23:50,363 --> 01:23:54,726 \h\h- You do not throw rocks at a man who’s got a machine gun! 1997 01:23:54,726 --> 01:23:58,066 - This is what you get. \h\h\h\h\hI am who I am. 1998 01:23:58,066 --> 01:24:00,660 - What you got here \h\h\h\his all man. 1999 01:24:00,660 --> 01:24:02,660 - He didn’t change \h\h\hfor anybody. 2000 01:24:02,660 --> 01:24:05,594 - We are the most popular wrestlers in the entire world. 2001 01:24:05,594 --> 01:24:09,660 - I haven’t found anyone that has what Roddy had. 2002 01:24:10,594 --> 01:24:12,132 Loved life. 2003 01:24:12,132 --> 01:24:13,627 Lived it to its max. 2004 01:24:13,627 --> 01:24:14,330 - Ya-ha! 2005 01:24:14,330 --> 01:24:18,396 - He came in spitting fire \h\h\hand crapping thunder. 2006 01:24:18,594 --> 01:24:21,264 - I’m not afraid \h\h\h\h\hof nobody-- 2007 01:24:21,264 --> 01:24:23,132 ♪ ♪ 2008 01:24:23,132 --> 01:24:24,231 - I am the legend killer. 2009 01:24:24,231 --> 01:24:26,627 - He started with so little \h\h\hand ended with so much 2010 01:24:26,627 --> 01:24:30,396 \h\h\hand had every hardship thrown at him along the way. 2011 01:24:30,396 --> 01:24:31,627 That’s my dad’s legacy. 2012 01:24:31,627 --> 01:24:33,462 \h\h\h\h\hI hope it is one that gives people strength. 2013 01:24:33,462 --> 01:24:37,396 - I still hear new stories \habout him all the time, 2014 01:24:37,396 --> 01:24:40,594 and I realize how lucky I am \h\h\h\h\h\hto have a father 2015 01:24:40,594 --> 01:24:44,528 \h\h\h\h\h\hthat has impacted so many people in the world. 2016 01:24:44,528 --> 01:24:47,264 ♪ ♪ 2017 01:24:47,264 --> 01:24:49,264 - Best part of my job: 2018 01:24:49,264 --> 01:24:53,528 when you come with your daddy \h\h\h\h\h\h\hand your mommy, 2019 01:24:53,528 --> 01:24:55,528 and you’re all excited and... 2020 01:24:57,495 --> 01:25:02,396 \h\h\hWe can put a smile on a little boy’s face. 2021 01:25:03,627 --> 01:25:05,000 That’s the greatest reward 2022 01:25:05,000 --> 01:25:07,627 a guy can ever have \h\h\h\hin his life. 2023 01:25:08,660 --> 01:25:10,396 Thank you. 2024 01:25:10,396 --> 01:25:12,132 I love you too. 2025 01:25:12,132 --> 01:25:16,396 ♪ ♪ 2026 01:25:16,396 --> 01:25:18,495 - I have come here 2027 01:25:18,495 --> 01:25:19,462 to chew bubble gum. 2028 01:25:19,462 --> 01:25:23,726 - I have come here to chew \hbubble gum and kick butt. 2029 01:25:23,726 --> 01:25:26,363 \h\h\h- And I’m all out of bubble gum. 2030 01:25:26,363 --> 01:25:28,000 - And I’m all out \hof bubble gum. 2031 01:25:28,000 --> 01:25:30,330 \h- Just when they think they have the answers... 2032 01:25:30,330 --> 01:25:33,396 - Just when they think they \h\h\h\hhave the answers... 2033 01:25:33,396 --> 01:25:35,198 - I change the questions. 2034 01:25:35,198 --> 01:25:37,099 \h\h- I change the questions. 2035 01:25:37,099 --> 01:25:39,495 - You do not throw rocks... 2036 01:25:39,495 --> 01:25:41,462 - You do not throw rocks 2037 01:25:41,462 --> 01:25:45,528 at a man with a machine gun, \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hbrother. 154553

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