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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,021 --> 00:00:01,981 We have a match. 2 00:00:01,981 --> 00:00:03,981 Your DNA is on the sweatshirt. 3 00:00:03,981 --> 00:00:05,981 Was it you that attacked Mr Cooper that night? No comment. 4 00:00:06,981 --> 00:00:07,981 You want me to lie for you. 5 00:00:07,981 --> 00:00:12,981 Just say you don't remember anything that happened that night. 6 00:00:12,981 --> 00:00:15,021 We're done. No. 7 00:00:15,021 --> 00:00:18,981 After I passed them, I heard splash. 8 00:00:18,981 --> 00:00:20,981 Anything else? 9 00:00:20,981 --> 00:00:22,661 How about if I check my diary? 10 00:00:22,661 --> 00:00:24,981 Can we get the luminol in here, please? 11 00:00:24,981 --> 00:00:28,981 The blood on Melinda Ricci's jacket, it belonged to Gerard Cooper. 12 00:00:28,981 --> 00:00:30,981 You're under arrest on suspicion of murder. 13 00:00:31,981 --> 00:00:33,341 I didn't do it. 14 00:00:36,501 --> 00:00:38,341 LOCK RATTLES 15 00:00:40,981 --> 00:00:43,981 MUSIC: 'All We Do' by Oh Wonder 16 00:00:49,341 --> 00:00:50,981 ♪ All we do is hide away 17 00:00:52,981 --> 00:00:56,661 ♪ All we do is All we do is hide away 18 00:00:56,661 --> 00:00:58,981 ♪ All we do is lie and wait 19 00:01:00,981 --> 00:01:04,981 ♪ All we do is All we do is lie and wait 20 00:01:04,981 --> 00:01:07,981 ♪ I've been upside down 21 00:01:07,981 --> 00:01:11,981 ♪ I don't wanna be The right way round 22 00:01:11,981 --> 00:01:15,021 ♪ Can't find paradise On the ground. ♪ 23 00:01:58,021 --> 00:01:59,981 What are you doing, Marty? 24 00:02:04,981 --> 00:02:06,981 Whoops-a-daisy. 25 00:02:17,981 --> 00:02:20,981 So can you stop harassing me and my daughter now? 26 00:02:20,981 --> 00:02:22,981 No-one's been harassing you, Juliet. 27 00:02:22,981 --> 00:02:25,181 You went behind my back to my daughter's school. 28 00:02:25,181 --> 00:02:27,981 Yesterday, I had to tell her you might be interrogating her. 29 00:02:27,981 --> 00:02:29,501 We wanted a brief chat. 30 00:02:29,501 --> 00:02:31,981 THAT is your suspect. 31 00:02:31,981 --> 00:02:36,021 A man who's twice come to our home equipped to do us violence. 32 00:02:36,021 --> 00:02:37,981 It's not a very big leap, is it, 33 00:02:37,981 --> 00:02:40,181 to work out that he probably killed Gerry, too? 34 00:02:42,021 --> 00:02:43,821 Come on. 35 00:02:44,981 --> 00:02:45,981 How's my mum? 36 00:02:45,981 --> 00:02:47,981 I need to remind you you're still under caution, Marty. 37 00:02:47,981 --> 00:02:49,661 Did she die? 38 00:02:50,981 --> 00:02:52,981 No. 39 00:02:52,981 --> 00:02:55,181 But she's very poorly, I'm afraid. 40 00:02:56,981 --> 00:02:59,661 Oh, Mum. CAR ENGINE STARTS 41 00:03:07,981 --> 00:03:09,981 Yes, that's my jacket. 42 00:03:09,981 --> 00:03:13,981 Are you able to explain why Mr Cooper's blood is on it? 43 00:03:14,981 --> 00:03:16,981 Because he did hit me. 44 00:03:18,021 --> 00:03:21,661 And on that occasion, I hit him back. 45 00:03:21,661 --> 00:03:22,981 And where was this? 46 00:03:22,981 --> 00:03:24,981 My flat. 47 00:03:24,981 --> 00:03:27,981 When? February 12th, my birthday. 48 00:03:27,981 --> 00:03:28,981 You were seeing each other at this point? 49 00:03:28,981 --> 00:03:32,021 That was the night we split up. Your birthday? 50 00:03:32,021 --> 00:03:34,341 Oh, yeah. Because? 51 00:03:36,661 --> 00:03:37,981 It's a long story. 52 00:03:44,021 --> 00:03:45,981 Here all day. 53 00:03:49,981 --> 00:03:53,981 So, I got pregnant by him in June 2020. 54 00:03:56,981 --> 00:03:59,501 But at that stage of my life, having a child 55 00:03:59,501 --> 00:04:01,341 was just not something I could contemplate... 56 00:04:03,981 --> 00:04:07,981 ...so I had a termination. 57 00:04:07,981 --> 00:04:09,981 And that night, he came round... I'm sorry. 58 00:04:09,981 --> 00:04:12,981 Father Ryan told me that you actually had the baby 59 00:04:12,981 --> 00:04:14,981 and gave it up for adoption? 60 00:04:14,981 --> 00:04:17,981 That's an interesting interpretation of confessional privilege. 61 00:04:19,981 --> 00:04:21,981 Yes, I told Father Ryan that. 62 00:04:21,981 --> 00:04:25,021 Because when I said I'd got pregnant by a married man, 63 00:04:25,021 --> 00:04:27,981 he slightly shat the bed. 64 00:04:27,981 --> 00:04:30,821 I mean, from everything that I've read of yours, 65 00:04:30,821 --> 00:04:33,981 from watching some of your stuff on BNC, 66 00:04:33,981 --> 00:04:36,821 you're a pretty staunch pro-lifer, aren't you? 67 00:04:38,981 --> 00:04:41,981 I think that terminating a potential life 68 00:04:41,981 --> 00:04:43,981 is a desperately sad thing to do. 69 00:04:45,981 --> 00:04:48,981 But bringing a child into the world... 70 00:04:48,981 --> 00:04:51,981 especially now, that you don't want... 71 00:04:52,981 --> 00:04:55,981 ...that you don't feel that you can give the best life to... 72 00:04:55,981 --> 00:04:57,981 is so much more sad... 73 00:04:59,661 --> 00:05:00,981 ...is how I feel. 74 00:05:03,981 --> 00:05:06,981 And I profoundly regret not saying that out loud before now. 75 00:05:06,981 --> 00:05:09,981 I think it's fair to say that I'm the worst kind of hypocrite. 76 00:05:11,821 --> 00:05:13,981 And when was it, the termination? 77 00:05:15,981 --> 00:05:17,981 SHE SNIFFLES 78 00:05:17,981 --> 00:05:19,021 Um... 79 00:05:21,981 --> 00:05:22,981 July. 80 00:05:24,981 --> 00:05:26,981 And Cooper knew about it? 81 00:05:26,981 --> 00:05:28,981 Yes, unfortunately. 82 00:05:28,981 --> 00:05:30,181 Why "unfortunately"? 83 00:05:31,981 --> 00:05:34,981 Um, so on... on February 12th, 84 00:05:35,981 --> 00:05:39,981 ...uh, Gerry called me and said that he wanted to come round 85 00:05:39,981 --> 00:05:41,981 to give me something. 86 00:05:41,981 --> 00:05:46,981 And idiot me, I still thought that it was a present, but, um... 87 00:05:46,981 --> 00:05:50,981 actually, it was a demand that I lend him 30 grand. 88 00:05:50,981 --> 00:05:52,981 SHE SNIFFS 89 00:05:52,981 --> 00:05:55,981 I presume then, by this stage, he knew that 90 00:05:55,981 --> 00:05:57,981 you'd been offered a contract by BNC? Yes. 91 00:05:57,981 --> 00:05:58,981 And what did you say? 92 00:05:58,981 --> 00:06:00,981 No, of course. 93 00:06:00,981 --> 00:06:02,981 Did you have that amount of money? No. 94 00:06:04,981 --> 00:06:06,981 I mean, I had a few thousand saved up, 95 00:06:06,981 --> 00:06:08,021 but nothing near that amount. 96 00:06:08,021 --> 00:06:09,981 And what did he say when you said no? 97 00:06:09,981 --> 00:06:14,821 He would tell BNC and every newspaper I'd ever worked for 98 00:06:14,821 --> 00:06:17,021 that this pro-lifer, devout Catholic, 99 00:06:17,021 --> 00:06:18,981 had broken lockdown rules, 100 00:06:18,981 --> 00:06:22,981 had an affair with a married man, and had an abortion. 101 00:06:23,981 --> 00:06:25,981 And I told him he was evil. 102 00:06:26,981 --> 00:06:28,981 And he punched me in the face. 103 00:06:30,981 --> 00:06:33,981 And I hit him round the head with a carving of a duck, 104 00:06:33,981 --> 00:06:35,501 hence the blood. 105 00:06:35,501 --> 00:06:36,981 And then I fled my flat. 106 00:06:39,501 --> 00:06:41,981 And I didn't return until about three hours later, 107 00:06:41,981 --> 00:06:44,981 this time with a male friend, but by that time, he'd... he'd gone. 108 00:06:44,981 --> 00:06:47,981 And will your friend testify to that? Mm. 109 00:06:47,981 --> 00:06:50,981 Yeah, I spoke to him yesterday. I'll give you his details. 110 00:06:52,181 --> 00:06:55,981 Did Cooper ever act on any of his threats? 111 00:06:55,981 --> 00:06:57,981 Not that I'm aware of, no... 112 00:06:57,981 --> 00:07:00,981 but by the time it... it'd come closer to me leaving, 113 00:07:00,981 --> 00:07:02,981 he'd lowered the amount to 5K, 114 00:07:02,981 --> 00:07:04,981 and just to get him off my back, 115 00:07:04,981 --> 00:07:07,981 I agreed to meet him and make him a transfer. 116 00:07:07,981 --> 00:07:10,981 That was on the 24th of February, 117 00:07:10,981 --> 00:07:12,981 and obviously, he... he never showed. 118 00:07:12,981 --> 00:07:16,981 And then I found out from a mutual friend that he'd disappeared. 119 00:07:16,981 --> 00:07:19,981 And given everything that had gone on between us, I just... 120 00:07:19,981 --> 00:07:22,501 I just wanted to get out of London as quickly as possible. 121 00:07:23,981 --> 00:07:24,981 I'll ask you again, 122 00:07:24,981 --> 00:07:27,981 did you ever liaise with Juliet Cooper? 123 00:07:29,981 --> 00:07:31,981 Yes, I spoke to her once. 124 00:07:31,981 --> 00:07:35,501 She must have got my number from his phone, and she... she rang me, 125 00:07:35,501 --> 00:07:38,021 it was about a year before he disappeared. 126 00:07:38,021 --> 00:07:40,981 And she was very unpleasant. 127 00:07:41,981 --> 00:07:44,981 She said that she would fuck my life up. 128 00:07:45,981 --> 00:07:48,181 But I never... I never met her in person. 129 00:08:00,981 --> 00:08:02,661 RINGS DOOR BELL 130 00:08:05,981 --> 00:08:06,981 Mrs Dowari? 131 00:08:06,981 --> 00:08:10,981 Yes. DS Boulting, Bishop Street Police Station. 132 00:08:10,981 --> 00:08:12,981 I wonder if you could spare me five minutes for a quick chat? 133 00:08:15,981 --> 00:08:19,981 'Would she return here voluntarily?' Well, she said an emphatic "no". 134 00:08:19,981 --> 00:08:22,981 And given any extradition will take many weeks, I'm heading back. 135 00:08:22,981 --> 00:08:26,661 Well, they've also been some interesting developments here. 136 00:08:26,661 --> 00:08:28,981 'Yeah? What's happening?' 137 00:08:28,981 --> 00:08:32,661 Almost immediately, it was clear it wasn't habitable. 138 00:08:32,661 --> 00:08:35,981 Damp started to appear in both bedrooms, 139 00:08:35,981 --> 00:08:39,981 and the children started to cough and have permanent colds. 140 00:08:39,981 --> 00:08:44,981 And you feel bad, complaining, because... 141 00:08:44,981 --> 00:08:47,981 we were immigrants and we had not yet... 142 00:08:47,981 --> 00:08:51,981 had the opportunity to give back to this wonderful country. 143 00:08:51,981 --> 00:08:54,981 But Asif was brilliant and told us 144 00:08:54,981 --> 00:08:58,821 our children have a right to live safely. 145 00:08:58,821 --> 00:09:00,981 He was only our interpreter, 146 00:09:00,981 --> 00:09:02,981 but he fought so hard for us with Mr Cooper. 147 00:09:04,981 --> 00:09:07,981 Except every time Mr Cooper said he'd fix the damp, 148 00:09:07,981 --> 00:09:10,981 all he ever really did was paint over it. 149 00:09:10,981 --> 00:09:13,981 And so our son Jamal got sicker and sicker. 150 00:09:13,981 --> 00:09:16,981 Sorry, how old was Jamal at this point? 151 00:09:17,981 --> 00:09:21,661 18 months when we moved in, in September 2020. 152 00:09:21,661 --> 00:09:23,981 Thank you. Please go on. 153 00:09:23,981 --> 00:09:27,981 So he was really poorly with a lung infection... 154 00:09:28,981 --> 00:09:31,501 ...and then in late January 2021, 155 00:09:31,501 --> 00:09:34,981 he was actually admitted to hospital because of his breathing. 156 00:09:34,981 --> 00:09:36,981 And how long was your son in hospital? 157 00:09:37,981 --> 00:09:41,501 Two weeks and five days. 158 00:09:41,501 --> 00:09:44,821 And then he came home to your new place? 159 00:09:44,821 --> 00:09:45,981 How do you mean? 160 00:09:45,981 --> 00:09:49,981 When he recovered, he came home to your new place? 161 00:09:49,981 --> 00:09:52,981 Jamal never came home. 162 00:09:53,981 --> 00:09:54,981 Right. 163 00:09:55,981 --> 00:09:58,981 Sorry, so where did he go? 164 00:10:00,981 --> 00:10:02,981 Jamal died. 165 00:10:03,981 --> 00:10:06,981 Oh, Mrs Dowari. Sorry, I thought you knew. 166 00:10:06,981 --> 00:10:11,981 He had an acute fungal infection in his lungs from the damp, 167 00:10:11,981 --> 00:10:15,981 and he died on the 22nd of February, 2021. 168 00:10:15,981 --> 00:10:18,981 Two days before his second birthday. 169 00:10:19,981 --> 00:10:22,981 I'm so, so sorry. May Allah comfort you. Thank you. 170 00:10:22,981 --> 00:10:25,981 Do you mind if I just ask one last question. Please? 171 00:10:25,981 --> 00:10:26,981 Of course. 172 00:10:26,981 --> 00:10:29,981 I presume that Asif wasn't interpreting for you any more, 173 00:10:29,981 --> 00:10:31,501 in your new place? 174 00:10:31,501 --> 00:10:33,981 No. But you kept in contact with each other? 175 00:10:33,981 --> 00:10:36,981 Very much so, he had become a valued friend. 176 00:10:36,981 --> 00:10:39,181 And I'm assuming that he knew about your son's death? 177 00:10:39,181 --> 00:10:42,981 After our family, he was the first person we told. 178 00:11:17,981 --> 00:11:21,021 OK, so, obviously, we need to speak to Asif again. 179 00:11:21,021 --> 00:11:24,981 Yeah. The timing's just too coincidental, isn't it? Agreed. 180 00:11:24,981 --> 00:11:26,981 Fran? We have triangulation. 181 00:11:26,981 --> 00:11:27,981 Excellent! 182 00:11:27,981 --> 00:11:31,981 OK, so, if you look on the 22nd, that's the Monday, 183 00:11:31,981 --> 00:11:33,181 data puts Cooper in Brighton, 184 00:11:33,181 --> 00:11:34,981 which checks out with his desk diary - 185 00:11:34,981 --> 00:11:36,981 he was meeting snack suppliers. 186 00:11:36,981 --> 00:11:38,021 Yeah. Then back in Bow, in the evening, 187 00:11:38,021 --> 00:11:39,981 where he calls a local takeaway. 188 00:11:39,981 --> 00:11:41,981 Yes, got that. 189 00:11:41,981 --> 00:11:44,981 Then the 23rd, he seems to spend most of the day in Bow, 190 00:11:44,981 --> 00:11:47,501 presumably working in or above the pub. 191 00:11:47,501 --> 00:11:49,981 OK. Or at least his phone spent most of the day in Bow. 192 00:11:49,981 --> 00:11:51,981 Well, yeah. 193 00:11:51,981 --> 00:11:54,341 But 13:37 on the 24th, 194 00:11:54,341 --> 00:11:56,981 he makes the call to the brewery woman to cancel 195 00:11:56,981 --> 00:12:00,981 the four o'clock meeting, and that call is made in Ilford. 196 00:12:00,981 --> 00:12:03,981 Where was Marty Baines' flat? Ilford. OK. 197 00:12:03,981 --> 00:12:05,981 So on the day he is reported missing, 198 00:12:05,981 --> 00:12:09,501 we have Cooper maybe meeting Marty Baines. Maybe. 199 00:12:09,501 --> 00:12:11,341 And did you actually speak to the brewery person 200 00:12:11,341 --> 00:12:12,981 who got the voicemail? Yes. 201 00:12:12,981 --> 00:12:14,981 She said it was definitely Cooper. 202 00:12:14,981 --> 00:12:16,981 OK. So we know he's alive on the 24th. 203 00:12:16,981 --> 00:12:18,981 Well, yeah, probably. 204 00:12:18,981 --> 00:12:20,981 How do you mean? 205 00:12:20,981 --> 00:12:22,981 There's just this weird thing. 206 00:12:22,981 --> 00:12:25,981 With the voicemail he left her, she said he called her "babe". 207 00:12:25,981 --> 00:12:26,981 Babe? 208 00:12:26,981 --> 00:12:28,981 She said the message was something like, um, 209 00:12:28,981 --> 00:12:31,981 "Sorry, babe, can't make today now, I'll call you." 210 00:12:31,981 --> 00:12:34,981 OK. And do we definitely know that they were just work colleagues? 211 00:12:34,981 --> 00:12:36,981 I mean, given what we do know about him. 212 00:12:36,981 --> 00:12:39,661 Oh, yeah. She said they were definitely just colleagues 213 00:12:39,661 --> 00:12:43,981 and that his language was inappropriate, so... 214 00:12:43,981 --> 00:12:44,981 I don't know. 215 00:12:44,981 --> 00:12:47,981 Something about the timing of all this is just off. 216 00:12:47,981 --> 00:12:49,981 The dodgy number plates, 217 00:12:49,981 --> 00:12:51,981 this message... Mm. 218 00:12:51,981 --> 00:12:53,821 ...something... Yeah. 219 00:12:53,821 --> 00:12:55,981 One to ponder. 220 00:12:55,981 --> 00:12:59,501 Uh... OK, listen, thanks, guys. 221 00:13:04,181 --> 00:13:05,981 Hey. Hi, love. Hi. 222 00:13:05,981 --> 00:13:08,341 Um, Steve's been here, he took his stuff. 223 00:13:08,341 --> 00:13:10,981 Yeah, I know, I said he could. No... No, it's not that. 224 00:13:10,981 --> 00:13:13,981 It's not that, Jess, I'm just a bit worried about him. 225 00:13:13,981 --> 00:13:15,981 'He's saying some bad things.' What things? 226 00:13:15,981 --> 00:13:18,021 Like how he's messed up his whole life 227 00:13:18,021 --> 00:13:20,661 and he can't see a way forward. Is he still there? 228 00:13:20,661 --> 00:13:22,981 'No, he left about ten minutes ago.' 229 00:13:22,981 --> 00:13:24,981 He's found a rental round the corner. Where? 230 00:13:24,981 --> 00:13:26,981 Um, Larford Street. 231 00:13:26,981 --> 00:13:28,981 Jesus, that's literally the next fucking road. 232 00:13:28,981 --> 00:13:31,981 'I mean... he wouldn't do anything silly, would he? 233 00:13:31,981 --> 00:13:33,981 'He's not... He's not like that, is he? 234 00:13:33,981 --> 00:13:35,981 'He's not that sort of person?' No, look, uh, 235 00:13:35,981 --> 00:13:37,981 I'll call him, or I'll drop by on the way home. 236 00:13:37,981 --> 00:13:40,021 What number was it again? '25.' 237 00:13:40,021 --> 00:13:42,981 Right, OK. Um, listen, Mum, I've gotta go. 238 00:13:42,981 --> 00:13:44,981 I'll talk to you later. OK. Thanks. Bye. 239 00:13:46,021 --> 00:13:48,661 So, how was it? 240 00:13:48,661 --> 00:13:49,981 I don't know if you're aware of this, 241 00:13:49,981 --> 00:13:51,021 but it rains a lot in Ireland? 242 00:13:51,021 --> 00:13:53,981 You're joking (?) I've never noticed (!) 243 00:13:53,981 --> 00:13:56,981 Listen, are you OK to go straight into an interview with Asif Syed? 244 00:13:56,981 --> 00:13:58,981 We've only got two hours left on the clock. 245 00:13:58,981 --> 00:14:00,341 Yeah. Let's go for it. 246 00:14:00,341 --> 00:14:02,341 And then it'll be straight into Marty Baines. 247 00:14:02,341 --> 00:14:04,981 Murray sent you the Dowari statement, I think? 248 00:14:04,981 --> 00:14:07,981 He did, and I've got an idea on how to approach this. 249 00:14:07,981 --> 00:14:08,981 Great. Fire away. 250 00:14:09,981 --> 00:14:10,981 Since we last spoke, 251 00:14:10,981 --> 00:14:13,981 we have new information on the Dowari family. 252 00:14:14,981 --> 00:14:16,981 Do you remember Jamal Dowari? 253 00:14:18,981 --> 00:14:20,981 No comment. 254 00:14:20,981 --> 00:14:25,981 Well, according to his mum, Nahal, you absolutely adored him. 255 00:14:26,981 --> 00:14:30,181 You bought him a play mat for his first birthday, you... 256 00:14:30,181 --> 00:14:34,981 baby-sat him on numerous occasions, do you remember that? 257 00:14:36,981 --> 00:14:38,981 No comment. 258 00:14:38,981 --> 00:14:40,021 I'm sorry to bring this up 259 00:14:40,021 --> 00:14:41,981 because I can see you're getting upset, 260 00:14:41,981 --> 00:14:44,981 but do you remember what caused little Jamal's death? 261 00:14:47,981 --> 00:14:48,981 No comment. 262 00:14:48,981 --> 00:14:51,981 I think you do remember because you were at the hospital, 263 00:14:51,981 --> 00:14:54,821 helping the Dowari family understand what was happening 264 00:14:54,821 --> 00:14:56,821 and speaking to the doctors, weren't you? 265 00:14:58,021 --> 00:14:59,661 HE SNIFFLES 266 00:14:59,661 --> 00:15:00,981 No comment. 267 00:15:02,181 --> 00:15:04,981 You know he died of a fungal infection, 268 00:15:04,981 --> 00:15:06,981 almost certainly caused by the conditions 269 00:15:06,981 --> 00:15:07,981 in Gerard Cooper's flat. 270 00:15:10,981 --> 00:15:12,981 No comment. 271 00:15:12,981 --> 00:15:14,981 Do you remember the day he died, Asif? 272 00:15:14,981 --> 00:15:17,181 He died on the 22nd of February, 2021, 273 00:15:17,181 --> 00:15:20,021 just two days before his second birthday... 274 00:15:21,021 --> 00:15:24,981 ...and less than 48 hours before Gerard Cooper disappeared. 275 00:15:27,981 --> 00:15:30,981 So, listen, let me tell you where we are. 276 00:15:30,981 --> 00:15:34,981 I think you're in a bit of a... panic. 277 00:15:34,981 --> 00:15:38,981 I think you see your whole world collapsing - your citizenship, 278 00:15:38,981 --> 00:15:41,981 your relationship, your whole life in the UK. 279 00:15:41,981 --> 00:15:44,981 And the truth is, if you do remain silent, 280 00:15:44,981 --> 00:15:47,981 we would be obliged to seek the authority to charge you 281 00:15:47,981 --> 00:15:49,981 with the car park assault, 282 00:15:49,981 --> 00:15:53,981 despite us knowing that Gerard Cooper was a violent man 283 00:15:53,981 --> 00:15:56,501 you may well have had to defend yourself against. 284 00:15:56,501 --> 00:15:57,981 For your information, 285 00:15:57,981 --> 00:15:59,981 I've spoken to the police at Barnstable, 286 00:15:59,981 --> 00:16:03,981 and they will not be charging you with any immigration offences. 287 00:16:03,981 --> 00:16:06,981 Your partner has taken full responsibility for that. 288 00:16:06,981 --> 00:16:08,981 So we would love to be able to eliminate you 289 00:16:08,981 --> 00:16:10,821 from our enquiries as well. 290 00:16:10,821 --> 00:16:12,981 We suspect you're a good man, Asif, but... 291 00:16:13,981 --> 00:16:14,981 HE SIGHS 292 00:16:14,981 --> 00:16:16,981 ...you need to help us here. 293 00:16:16,981 --> 00:16:18,661 Help us help you. 294 00:16:30,981 --> 00:16:35,661 A few weeks after Jamal first got sick, 295 00:16:35,661 --> 00:16:37,981 in December, I... 296 00:16:37,981 --> 00:16:41,981 I went to see Cooper at his pub doing a lunch for the homeless. 297 00:16:44,981 --> 00:16:45,981 And there he was... 298 00:16:47,981 --> 00:16:52,981 ...serving food and handing out clothes and presents, and... 299 00:16:56,981 --> 00:16:58,981 ...he was brilliant. 300 00:17:00,981 --> 00:17:06,341 Kind, funny, generous and just... just lovely. 301 00:17:10,341 --> 00:17:12,981 Which is when I realised... 302 00:17:14,981 --> 00:17:17,981 ...he could be empathetic, 303 00:17:17,981 --> 00:17:20,981 he did have the capacity for compassion, he just... 304 00:17:22,981 --> 00:17:25,981 ...he just chose not to show it to us. 305 00:17:26,981 --> 00:17:30,981 Because he'd stopped seeing us... 306 00:17:31,981 --> 00:17:32,981 ...as human. 307 00:17:34,021 --> 00:17:36,981 We had "swarmed over" in our "hordes". 308 00:17:39,981 --> 00:17:42,981 He saw us as... vermin. 309 00:17:45,981 --> 00:17:49,981 The day Jamal got admitted, I went to see Cooper that night. 310 00:17:49,981 --> 00:17:52,981 I'd taken a... a photo of Jamal on a drip, 311 00:17:52,981 --> 00:17:55,181 and my intention was just to show him, 312 00:17:55,181 --> 00:17:58,981 to shame him, and naively, I thought maybe... 313 00:17:58,981 --> 00:18:00,981 maybe it would change him. 314 00:18:00,981 --> 00:18:04,981 His reaction at first was to intimidate me physically, 315 00:18:04,981 --> 00:18:07,021 pushing and shoving cos he was a bully. 316 00:18:07,021 --> 00:18:08,981 And when that didn't work, 317 00:18:08,981 --> 00:18:12,661 because why would it with someone like me, 318 00:18:12,661 --> 00:18:14,981 he actually tried to hit me. 319 00:18:14,981 --> 00:18:15,981 I mean, he was out of shape, 320 00:18:15,981 --> 00:18:18,981 and I put him down with two punches, but... 321 00:18:20,501 --> 00:18:21,981 ...that was it. 322 00:18:23,181 --> 00:18:27,981 I walked away leaving him groaning on the ground but very much alive. 323 00:18:55,981 --> 00:18:58,981 So what were you doing in Juliet Cooper's house, Marty? 324 00:18:58,981 --> 00:18:59,981 I wanted to speak to Taylor. 325 00:18:59,981 --> 00:19:01,981 Right. And what did you want to say to her? 326 00:19:01,981 --> 00:19:05,981 I wanted to offer her my sincere condolences for her loss. 327 00:19:05,981 --> 00:19:08,021 You broke into her house late at night to offer your condolences? 328 00:19:08,021 --> 00:19:09,661 Yes, I did. 329 00:19:10,981 --> 00:19:12,981 You had a screwdriver on you, Marty, in your bag 330 00:19:12,981 --> 00:19:15,661 and a hammer in your hand when we intercepted you. 331 00:19:15,661 --> 00:19:17,981 Marty Baines, lock-breaker extraordinaire. 332 00:19:17,981 --> 00:19:20,981 So you've broken into her home before, haven't you? 333 00:19:20,981 --> 00:19:22,181 Uh, yes, I have. Where was that? 334 00:19:22,181 --> 00:19:24,981 Above the pub. Why'd you do that? 335 00:19:25,981 --> 00:19:28,341 To give her dad a right sorting out. Marty. 336 00:19:28,341 --> 00:19:32,981 You wanted to do violence to him? Uh, yes, I did. 337 00:19:32,981 --> 00:19:35,021 Punch him on the hooter. 338 00:19:35,021 --> 00:19:36,981 OK. 339 00:19:36,981 --> 00:19:39,981 So we know that Taylor talked you out of doing anything that day, 340 00:19:39,981 --> 00:19:42,981 but did you later change your mind? No. I did not. 341 00:19:42,981 --> 00:19:45,981 At a later date, did you get angry again 342 00:19:45,981 --> 00:19:48,821 about what he did to you, and specifically to your dad, 343 00:19:48,821 --> 00:19:50,021 and attack him? No, I did not. 344 00:19:50,021 --> 00:19:52,981 Did you kill him, Marty? No man has the right 345 00:19:52,981 --> 00:19:55,021 to take another man's life, DI Sunil Khan. 346 00:20:00,181 --> 00:20:01,981 Can we talk to you about Ilford? 347 00:20:01,981 --> 00:20:04,981 I lived in Ilford. Yes, we know. 348 00:20:04,981 --> 00:20:07,021 We wanted to ask you about a particular day. 349 00:20:07,021 --> 00:20:11,341 What day? A day we think that Gerry Cooper was in Ilford as well. 350 00:20:11,341 --> 00:20:13,981 In 2021, in February, 351 00:20:13,981 --> 00:20:15,981 we wanted ask you if you remember meeting him in Ilford? 352 00:20:15,981 --> 00:20:17,661 I never met him in Ilford. 353 00:20:17,661 --> 00:20:18,981 Are you sure? Yes, I'm sure. 354 00:20:18,981 --> 00:20:21,981 He never came to your flat? He never came to my flat. 355 00:20:21,981 --> 00:20:24,981 Cos we have a record of a phone call he made from Ilford 356 00:20:24,981 --> 00:20:27,981 on the day we think he might have disappeared. 357 00:20:27,981 --> 00:20:30,981 What day is this? The 24th of February, 2021. 358 00:20:30,981 --> 00:20:33,981 On the 24th of February, I had Coco Pops and tinned peaches 359 00:20:33,981 --> 00:20:36,821 for breakfast, watched Lorraine and Homes Under The Hammer, 360 00:20:36,821 --> 00:20:38,981 before walking to City Airport to watch for planes. 361 00:20:38,981 --> 00:20:40,981 I returned to my flat at 20:55 362 00:20:40,981 --> 00:20:43,981 in time for Kirstie and Phil on Love It Or List It. 363 00:20:45,341 --> 00:20:47,981 That's very detailed, Marty. 364 00:20:47,981 --> 00:20:50,181 Can I ask you why you have never told us this before? 365 00:20:50,181 --> 00:20:51,981 You never asked me. 366 00:20:56,021 --> 00:20:59,181 Out of interest, can I ask you what you did on the 23rd? 367 00:20:59,181 --> 00:21:01,981 On the 23rd of February, I had Coco Pops and tinned peaches 368 00:21:01,981 --> 00:21:04,981 for breakfast, watched Lorraine and Homes Under The Hammer, 369 00:21:04,981 --> 00:21:06,981 before walking to City Airport to watch for planes. 370 00:21:06,981 --> 00:21:11,501 I returned to my flat at 20:35 for The Real CSI at 21:00. 371 00:21:26,821 --> 00:21:28,981 I'd put good money on him being on that airport CCTV 372 00:21:28,981 --> 00:21:30,981 exactly when he said he was. Mm. 373 00:21:30,981 --> 00:21:32,981 Boss? 374 00:21:32,981 --> 00:21:35,981 The cyclist's daughter dropped his diary in. Oh, yeah? 375 00:21:35,981 --> 00:21:37,981 Like he said, it was 3:30 in the morning 376 00:21:37,981 --> 00:21:41,981 when he witnessed the disposal, but it was 3:30 on the 24th. 377 00:21:41,981 --> 00:21:43,181 No way. 378 00:21:43,181 --> 00:21:45,981 Which obviously begs a number of questions. 379 00:21:45,981 --> 00:21:48,981 Yeah, just a few. Yeah. The most obvious one of which 380 00:21:48,981 --> 00:21:51,981 is how the hell does a man leave a voicemail on someone's phone... 381 00:21:52,981 --> 00:21:55,981 ...when his dismembered body had been thrown into the marsh 382 00:21:55,981 --> 00:21:56,981 ten hours before? 383 00:22:09,981 --> 00:22:10,981 So, these... 384 00:22:10,981 --> 00:22:13,981 according to DVLA, are the five number plates 385 00:22:13,981 --> 00:22:17,981 at the time of the murder of the cars of Asif Syed, 386 00:22:17,981 --> 00:22:20,981 Melinda Ricci, Marty Baines's dad, Gerry Cooper and Juliet Cooper. 387 00:22:20,981 --> 00:22:23,981 All pretty anonymous saloons. And this... 388 00:22:26,501 --> 00:22:29,341 ...is our murder car. Now, it's possible, I guess, 389 00:22:29,341 --> 00:22:31,981 that the killer could've acquired fake plates, 390 00:22:31,981 --> 00:22:33,981 but that would have required a lot of prior planning, 391 00:22:33,981 --> 00:22:35,981 suggests premeditation. This wasn't premeditated. 392 00:22:35,981 --> 00:22:37,981 No. So my best guess is they altered their own plates 393 00:22:37,981 --> 00:22:39,981 with marker pen or tape or whatever. 394 00:22:39,981 --> 00:22:44,981 Changed an F to an E, a three or a six to an eight, etc. 395 00:22:44,981 --> 00:22:46,981 So basically, which of these five plates 396 00:22:46,981 --> 00:22:49,981 could most easily be changed to match that one? Exactly. 397 00:22:49,981 --> 00:22:51,021 So, who's good at Wordle? 398 00:22:52,181 --> 00:22:55,021 It's obviously not that one or that one. 399 00:22:55,021 --> 00:22:57,021 Can't be this one, either. Yeah... 400 00:22:57,021 --> 00:22:58,981 Well, two Fs can be Es. 401 00:22:58,981 --> 00:23:00,981 Yeah, and that P's gotta be that B. 402 00:23:00,981 --> 00:23:02,981 Yeah, so it's obviously this one, isn't it? 403 00:23:02,981 --> 00:23:05,981 The M stays the same, the C changes to an O. 404 00:23:05,981 --> 00:23:08,181 The five to a six. Seven stays the same. 405 00:23:08,181 --> 00:23:10,981 Two Es and a B. 406 00:23:10,981 --> 00:23:12,981 So, whose car is that? 407 00:23:12,981 --> 00:23:16,981 That car belonged to... 408 00:23:18,981 --> 00:23:20,981 ...Juliet Cooper. 409 00:23:20,981 --> 00:23:22,181 DS BOULTING WHISTLES 410 00:23:45,981 --> 00:23:47,181 Hass? 'Asif?' 411 00:23:47,181 --> 00:23:51,821 THEY CONVERSE IN OWN LANGUAGE: 412 00:24:00,981 --> 00:24:02,981 That was the hospital. 413 00:24:02,981 --> 00:24:04,981 Marty's mum's recovered consciousness. 414 00:24:04,981 --> 00:24:06,341 And she just told a nurse 415 00:24:06,341 --> 00:24:07,981 that she stirred the pills into her own drink. 416 00:24:07,981 --> 00:24:11,981 Why? Said she felt a burden. 417 00:24:11,981 --> 00:24:14,981 Said she felt that he would get better help without her. 418 00:24:16,981 --> 00:24:18,501 SHE EXHALES HEAVILY 419 00:24:19,981 --> 00:24:21,981 Right, aside from the burglary dwelling, 420 00:24:21,981 --> 00:24:24,981 let's release him NFA. Yep. 421 00:24:24,981 --> 00:24:26,981 He'll need to be with her. Mm-hm. 422 00:24:26,981 --> 00:24:28,981 Has anyone seen DI Khan? 423 00:24:30,981 --> 00:24:32,821 I really like you. 424 00:24:33,981 --> 00:24:35,981 I always have, but you were taken. 425 00:24:37,981 --> 00:24:38,981 But over the last year or so, 426 00:24:38,981 --> 00:24:41,661 as we've got to know each other better, it's just... 427 00:24:42,981 --> 00:24:44,981 ...it's just been lovely. 428 00:24:44,981 --> 00:24:47,981 And then the other night happened. 429 00:24:47,981 --> 00:24:51,981 And then you rang and rang. And I... ran. 430 00:24:53,981 --> 00:24:55,501 As I always have, actually. 431 00:24:57,981 --> 00:24:59,981 So I'm just gonna say what I'm gonna say, 432 00:24:59,981 --> 00:25:02,981 and then if you don't mind, I'm gonna go back to work, and... 433 00:25:04,981 --> 00:25:07,981 ...you can absorb it without the pressure of me... 434 00:25:07,981 --> 00:25:08,981 looking at you? 435 00:25:10,181 --> 00:25:11,981 You're not a serial killer, are you? 436 00:25:23,981 --> 00:25:29,021 24 years ago, I was in a relationship with a bloke, and... 437 00:25:29,021 --> 00:25:33,981 we'd been together three pretty unhappy years, and then... 438 00:25:35,661 --> 00:25:40,821 ...one day, I went out to get some fags and never came back. 439 00:25:41,981 --> 00:25:46,181 Which was... fine. Except... 440 00:25:49,181 --> 00:25:53,021 ...we had a daughter who I also left behind. 441 00:25:54,981 --> 00:25:58,981 And who, for many complicated reasons, 442 00:25:58,981 --> 00:26:02,501 I haven't seen... since. 443 00:26:04,021 --> 00:26:05,981 Which is obviously quite a thing. 444 00:26:07,981 --> 00:26:09,981 That's what I thought you should know. 445 00:26:11,341 --> 00:26:13,981 And obviously, there were mental health issues 446 00:26:13,981 --> 00:26:16,821 and court cases and... lots and lots of pain... 447 00:26:16,821 --> 00:26:18,981 and I'm sure you have a million questions, 448 00:26:18,981 --> 00:26:22,341 but as I say, I'm gonna head back to work now, 449 00:26:22,341 --> 00:26:26,981 but I just wanted you to know that, and, um... 450 00:26:26,981 --> 00:26:27,981 and... 451 00:26:29,181 --> 00:26:30,341 ...yeah. 452 00:26:31,981 --> 00:26:33,981 Call me if you still... 453 00:26:33,981 --> 00:26:35,981 Yeah. Hey. Leanne... 454 00:26:37,661 --> 00:26:38,981 DOOR OPENS 455 00:26:40,821 --> 00:26:41,981 DOOR CLOSES 456 00:26:41,981 --> 00:26:43,341 PHONE VIBRATES 457 00:26:51,021 --> 00:26:52,981 Jess. What's happening? 458 00:26:54,181 --> 00:26:55,981 The thing that tripped us up 459 00:26:55,981 --> 00:26:58,821 was the voice message left on the 24th. 460 00:26:59,981 --> 00:27:01,981 But I'm guessing that was an old message left for you, 461 00:27:01,981 --> 00:27:04,981 and you just replayed it into his phone mic, 462 00:27:04,981 --> 00:27:08,981 as you used HIS phone to call the brewery colleague. 463 00:27:10,981 --> 00:27:13,981 Nice touch driving to Ilford to make the call, though. Mm. 464 00:27:13,981 --> 00:27:17,661 And when we track down your old car, 465 00:27:17,661 --> 00:27:20,981 I wonder if we'll find residue of the marker pen or gaffer tape 466 00:27:20,981 --> 00:27:22,981 you used on the number plate? 467 00:27:24,981 --> 00:27:27,981 No jury would ever convict on any of that. 468 00:27:27,981 --> 00:27:29,501 Oh, I don't know. 469 00:27:30,981 --> 00:27:33,981 But we'll also speak to your daughter. 470 00:27:33,981 --> 00:27:36,021 And I have a strong feeling 471 00:27:36,021 --> 00:27:39,981 that based on your intense desire for us not to 472 00:27:39,981 --> 00:27:42,821 that she saw something that night. 473 00:27:44,981 --> 00:27:47,981 Or... you can tell us what happened... 474 00:27:48,981 --> 00:27:52,981 ...and maybe... maybe we don't need to involve Taylor. 475 00:28:01,981 --> 00:28:03,821 I'll tell you. 476 00:28:13,981 --> 00:28:16,981 The marriage had been broken many years. 477 00:28:16,981 --> 00:28:21,661 He'd changed so much from the person I met in 2009. 478 00:28:22,501 --> 00:28:24,341 I guess we both changed. 479 00:28:25,981 --> 00:28:28,661 The further he lurched to the right, 480 00:28:28,661 --> 00:28:33,981 the more I'd provoke him, mostly deliberately. And end up... 481 00:28:34,981 --> 00:28:36,981 ...loathing him all afresh. 482 00:28:37,981 --> 00:28:40,341 Why didn't you just separate? Taylor. 483 00:28:40,341 --> 00:28:41,981 Our finances. 484 00:28:41,981 --> 00:28:45,661 The pandemic. Inertia. There were always reasons. 485 00:28:45,661 --> 00:28:47,021 Bad ones, but reasons. 486 00:28:47,021 --> 00:28:48,981 And so... 487 00:28:50,981 --> 00:28:51,981 ...how did it end? 488 00:28:56,181 --> 00:28:58,501 It was the night of the 22nd. 489 00:28:59,981 --> 00:29:02,981 I was cooking. Making stuff for the freezer. 490 00:29:02,981 --> 00:29:08,981 And... he got back late, after 11, drunk, and... 491 00:29:08,981 --> 00:29:11,981 told me he'd be out on the 24th. 492 00:29:12,981 --> 00:29:15,981 I reminded him sarcastically 493 00:29:15,981 --> 00:29:18,981 that that was our wedding anniversary, and he... 494 00:29:20,981 --> 00:29:22,981 ...spewed out some misogyny or other, 495 00:29:22,981 --> 00:29:25,981 and we started to go at each other. 496 00:29:25,981 --> 00:29:28,981 Taylor was deep asleep upstairs, thank God. 497 00:29:28,981 --> 00:29:33,181 And as usual, when I bested him verbally, 498 00:29:33,181 --> 00:29:37,501 which I always did cos it turns out he was thick... 499 00:29:38,981 --> 00:29:41,181 ...he'd start getting physical - 500 00:29:41,181 --> 00:29:43,981 pushing me and grabbing my hair. 501 00:29:43,981 --> 00:29:47,981 So, I'd gone to the kitchen table to try to de-escalate things. 502 00:29:47,981 --> 00:29:50,981 I sat down to continue chopping and... 503 00:29:51,981 --> 00:29:55,661 ...without any warning, he punched the back of my head... 504 00:29:56,981 --> 00:29:59,981 ...really hard. And it was... 505 00:30:01,821 --> 00:30:08,821 ...so painful and such a shock that something in me snapped, 506 00:30:08,821 --> 00:30:10,981 and I-I... 507 00:30:11,981 --> 00:30:13,981 ...I span round in my chair... 508 00:30:14,981 --> 00:30:18,981 ...and... and sort of punched the top of his leg... 509 00:30:20,981 --> 00:30:24,981 ...with a little paring knife still in my hand. 510 00:30:26,981 --> 00:30:28,981 And he must have been so surprised himself, 511 00:30:28,981 --> 00:30:30,981 he didn't even come after me as I bolted, 512 00:30:30,981 --> 00:30:32,981 and I managed to get to the downstairs loo 513 00:30:32,981 --> 00:30:33,981 and lock myself in. 514 00:30:33,981 --> 00:30:37,981 And I could hear him shouting at me, calling me a bitch and a whore, 515 00:30:37,981 --> 00:30:41,981 and telling me what he was going to do to me. 516 00:30:44,981 --> 00:30:48,661 And then I heard him say he was bleeding badly. 517 00:30:49,981 --> 00:30:54,981 And then it went quiet for a bit, and... and then he... 518 00:30:56,981 --> 00:30:59,981 ...he called my name, still quite angrily... 519 00:30:59,981 --> 00:31:03,981 and then it just went quiet. And stayed quiet. 520 00:31:06,981 --> 00:31:09,981 I stayed in the loo for, I don't know, maybe half an hour. 521 00:31:09,981 --> 00:31:12,341 I didn't come out till I was sure he'd have calmed down. 522 00:31:15,821 --> 00:31:19,661 I found him on the kitchen floor in a pool of blood. 523 00:31:21,981 --> 00:31:23,341 Dead. 524 00:31:26,021 --> 00:31:28,981 MARTY: No good crying over spilt milk, Mum. 525 00:31:29,981 --> 00:31:32,981 Just want you home now. 526 00:31:32,981 --> 00:31:34,981 That's what we're gonna do, Marty. 527 00:31:34,981 --> 00:31:37,981 Soon as Mum's up and walking, 528 00:31:37,981 --> 00:31:39,981 we'll get her some help at home, OK? 529 00:31:39,981 --> 00:31:41,981 Yeah? Yeah. 530 00:31:41,981 --> 00:31:45,981 Help at home, that's what we wanted, isn't it? Yeah? 531 00:31:49,981 --> 00:31:52,981 Home sweet home, Mum. 532 00:31:59,981 --> 00:32:03,981 As soon as I saw he was dead... 533 00:32:04,981 --> 00:32:07,981 ...in that same instant... 534 00:32:07,981 --> 00:32:09,181 I knew... 535 00:32:10,981 --> 00:32:16,181 ...I would do whatever I needed to do to protect my daughter. 536 00:32:16,181 --> 00:32:21,501 I would not... I could not leave her alone. 537 00:32:25,981 --> 00:32:28,981 No father, and me in prison. 538 00:32:28,981 --> 00:32:31,981 But I knew I needed to be... 539 00:32:31,981 --> 00:32:35,981 very fucking focused not to get caught. 540 00:32:35,981 --> 00:32:39,981 First up, I used multiple cloths to mop it up, 541 00:32:39,981 --> 00:32:41,341 put them all into a bucket, 542 00:32:41,341 --> 00:32:43,981 and then everything into multiple bin liners. 543 00:32:43,981 --> 00:32:47,981 I then stripped all my clothes off, put them into bin liners, 544 00:32:47,981 --> 00:32:51,981 and then wrapped Gerry in the same 545 00:32:51,981 --> 00:32:55,661 before dragging him into his office and locking the door. 546 00:32:57,981 --> 00:33:00,981 In the morning, I took Taylor to school... 547 00:33:03,981 --> 00:33:06,981 ...saying Daddy had left for a work meeting, 548 00:33:06,981 --> 00:33:09,981 and arranged a playdate for her that evening. 549 00:33:09,981 --> 00:33:13,981 I then went to work, leaving Gerry's phone on 550 00:33:13,981 --> 00:33:15,501 and charged at home. 551 00:33:16,981 --> 00:33:18,981 My last lecture finished at three, 552 00:33:18,981 --> 00:33:21,981 then I drove home, stopping first at an internet cafe 553 00:33:21,981 --> 00:33:23,661 to Google the fuck out of stuff, 554 00:33:23,661 --> 00:33:25,981 then a hardware store, where I bought... 555 00:33:27,981 --> 00:33:30,981 ...two new carving knives, more refuse sacks 556 00:33:30,981 --> 00:33:32,981 and some gaffer tape, with cash. 557 00:33:32,981 --> 00:33:34,661 When I got back to the pub... 558 00:33:36,981 --> 00:33:40,981 ...I made sure I had a nice chat with them all then went upstairs. 559 00:33:44,981 --> 00:33:46,981 I dragged Gerry back into the kitchen... 560 00:33:49,981 --> 00:33:53,501 ...and I cut him up into six pieces. 561 00:33:57,981 --> 00:33:59,021 Took less than an hour. 562 00:34:02,981 --> 00:34:05,661 Minimal blood by this stage, obviously. 563 00:34:07,981 --> 00:34:10,981 Then I wrapped each part in bin liners, and again, 564 00:34:10,981 --> 00:34:12,981 took off all my clothes, put them into bin liners, 565 00:34:12,981 --> 00:34:15,981 before showering and putting on fresh clothes. 566 00:34:16,981 --> 00:34:19,981 I then put Gerry back in his office, 567 00:34:19,981 --> 00:34:24,501 locked the door, and drove to pick up Taylor from her playdate. 568 00:34:29,981 --> 00:34:31,181 When she was in the bath... 569 00:34:34,981 --> 00:34:39,981 ...one by one, I put the bits of Gerry into a big holdall 570 00:34:39,981 --> 00:34:41,981 and then into the boot of the car. 571 00:34:41,981 --> 00:34:44,981 I then stirred a herbal sleeping pill 572 00:34:44,981 --> 00:34:46,981 into a cup of hot chocolate and put Taylor to bed. 573 00:34:48,981 --> 00:34:50,981 After the pub was shut, 574 00:34:50,981 --> 00:34:54,981 I went and changed the number plate with cut-up pieces of gaffer tape, 575 00:34:54,981 --> 00:34:59,981 and at 2:30 in the morning, I drove east to the marshes. 576 00:35:08,981 --> 00:35:10,981 And that's what happened. 577 00:35:21,181 --> 00:35:23,981 Her timeline's wrong. Her what? 578 00:35:27,981 --> 00:35:29,181 What? What is it? 579 00:35:35,501 --> 00:35:36,981 There. Right? 580 00:35:36,981 --> 00:35:40,981 On the 22nd, he calls a takeaway at 19:12, 581 00:35:40,981 --> 00:35:43,981 which is about 100 yards from their flat. Yeah? 582 00:35:43,981 --> 00:35:45,981 And then... 583 00:35:45,981 --> 00:35:49,981 he gets this text message confirming the delivery address for the order 584 00:35:49,981 --> 00:35:51,021 as the flat above their pub. 585 00:35:52,981 --> 00:35:54,981 Well, why would she say that he didn't get home till 11? 586 00:35:54,981 --> 00:35:59,341 Exactly. Why lie about the timing, if you've confessed to the murder? 587 00:36:00,981 --> 00:36:01,981 Why do you think? 588 00:36:03,981 --> 00:36:05,981 I think you know. 589 00:36:12,981 --> 00:36:16,661 Taylor, you wouldn't be telling us anything we don't already know. 590 00:36:20,181 --> 00:36:21,981 Yeah. Yes. Yeah, he hit her. 591 00:36:23,981 --> 00:36:24,981 And did you witness it? 592 00:36:26,981 --> 00:36:28,981 I heard it. Lots of times. 593 00:36:30,341 --> 00:36:32,981 And... I saw the bruises on her body. 594 00:36:34,981 --> 00:36:38,981 But then the last row, I actually did see it, yeah. 595 00:36:38,981 --> 00:36:40,981 OK. 596 00:36:40,981 --> 00:36:42,981 And can you tell us about it? 597 00:36:43,981 --> 00:36:46,021 Look, whatever's happened, 598 00:36:46,021 --> 00:36:48,981 whatever my mum's admitted doing, 599 00:36:48,981 --> 00:36:50,981 it would have only been in self-defence. 600 00:36:50,981 --> 00:36:53,021 We absolutely know that. 601 00:36:57,981 --> 00:37:02,981 I was... I was just in my bedroom, doing some homework, um... 602 00:37:02,981 --> 00:37:05,981 and I heard him start shouting. Roughly what time? 603 00:37:06,981 --> 00:37:09,661 Maybe eight? OK. 604 00:37:09,661 --> 00:37:10,981 So I put my buds in... 605 00:37:12,821 --> 00:37:13,981 ...but I could still hear him. 606 00:37:13,981 --> 00:37:17,981 And, um, I could hear her screaming back at him. 607 00:37:17,981 --> 00:37:20,981 And I don't know why, but this time, I decided to go downstairs. 608 00:37:20,981 --> 00:37:22,981 And she was on the floor in the kitchen. 609 00:37:22,981 --> 00:37:24,981 She was on her side, and she kept trying to get up, 610 00:37:24,981 --> 00:37:26,981 but every time she would, he'd... 611 00:37:26,981 --> 00:37:31,981 bring the heel of his boot down on her ribs really hard. 612 00:37:32,981 --> 00:37:34,981 And, um, she was crying, 613 00:37:34,981 --> 00:37:36,981 and it was horrible. 614 00:37:37,981 --> 00:37:40,501 He had his back to me, and she was faced away, 615 00:37:40,501 --> 00:37:41,981 so neither of them saw me, but... 616 00:37:41,981 --> 00:37:43,981 I just, I wanted to do something to stop him 617 00:37:43,981 --> 00:37:45,981 because I thought he was gonna kill her. 618 00:37:45,981 --> 00:37:48,981 So there was this little knife on the kitchen table, 619 00:37:48,981 --> 00:37:51,981 and I grabbed it and sort of jabbed it into his leg. 620 00:37:51,981 --> 00:37:53,981 I'm just gonna have to quickly caution... 621 00:37:53,981 --> 00:37:57,981 It's fi... It's fine, it's fine. There's no need. Um, carry on. 622 00:37:58,981 --> 00:38:02,501 So you... you grabbed it, and you jabbed it in his leg. 623 00:38:04,661 --> 00:38:06,981 Yeah, and he, um, he cried out in shock. 624 00:38:06,981 --> 00:38:09,981 He swung round, and he saw me, and he looked so upset. 625 00:38:11,981 --> 00:38:12,981 Um... 626 00:38:12,981 --> 00:38:15,981 But then Mum was back up on her feet, so she grabbed my hand, 627 00:38:15,981 --> 00:38:18,021 and she led me upstairs. And I just remember looking back 628 00:38:18,021 --> 00:38:20,981 and seeing him watch me go, holding the back of his leg, 629 00:38:20,981 --> 00:38:23,981 and he just looked really sad. 630 00:38:23,981 --> 00:38:26,981 And then, my mum ran me a bath upstairs, and... 631 00:38:27,981 --> 00:38:30,021 ...she read with me, and then... 632 00:38:30,021 --> 00:38:31,981 then she stroked me to sleep. 633 00:38:32,981 --> 00:38:36,981 And the next morning, there was a... a Crunchie by the side of my bed. 634 00:38:37,981 --> 00:38:39,021 And, um... 635 00:38:39,021 --> 00:38:41,981 Mum said that Dad had left it for me 636 00:38:41,981 --> 00:38:43,981 and that he had to leave early for a work meeting, so... 637 00:38:44,981 --> 00:38:46,981 ...I knew he'd forgiven me for what I'd done. 638 00:38:46,981 --> 00:38:48,981 And, uh... 639 00:38:51,981 --> 00:38:53,341 ...did you see him that evening? 640 00:38:55,981 --> 00:38:57,981 No. I had a playdate after school. 641 00:39:00,021 --> 00:39:03,981 And, um, Mum said that he was on a work call in his office 642 00:39:03,981 --> 00:39:04,981 and that I wasn't to disturb him. 643 00:39:06,981 --> 00:39:09,021 And then the next day was when he went missing. 644 00:39:14,981 --> 00:39:15,981 Oh, my God. 645 00:39:19,661 --> 00:39:20,981 She doesn't know. 646 00:39:20,981 --> 00:39:22,661 No. 647 00:39:22,661 --> 00:39:24,981 Her mother took her upstairs, she never even saw him bleeding. 648 00:39:26,981 --> 00:39:30,501 I mean... what do we even do with that? Just... 649 00:39:30,501 --> 00:39:31,981 What do we do? 650 00:39:35,661 --> 00:39:38,981 OK, so I think we only really have two options. 651 00:39:40,981 --> 00:39:43,981 We somehow ignore that, 652 00:39:43,981 --> 00:39:46,021 what she just said, let the mother take the blame. 653 00:39:46,021 --> 00:39:49,981 OK, so Juliet goes self-defence, gets maybe... 654 00:39:49,981 --> 00:39:51,981 four years, out in two? Yeah. 655 00:39:51,981 --> 00:39:54,981 And then we're liable for perverting the course of justice. 656 00:39:54,981 --> 00:39:56,981 Yes. Or? 657 00:39:57,981 --> 00:40:00,981 We tell the CPS. What she just told us? 658 00:40:00,981 --> 00:40:02,981 They will almost certainly decide that charges 659 00:40:02,981 --> 00:40:05,181 are not in the public interest. Almost certainly. 660 00:40:05,181 --> 00:40:06,981 Well, exactly. 661 00:40:06,981 --> 00:40:08,981 And even... even if they do decide that, 662 00:40:08,981 --> 00:40:11,981 a 14-year-old kid still has to live with the knowledge 663 00:40:11,981 --> 00:40:13,981 that she killed her own dad. 664 00:40:17,021 --> 00:40:19,981 Do you know what? This is not our decision to make. 665 00:40:19,981 --> 00:40:22,981 Who the hell else's is it? It's Juliet's. 666 00:40:22,981 --> 00:40:25,981 No. You do not want the weight of this on your shoulders. 667 00:40:25,981 --> 00:40:27,821 Please. Jess... 668 00:40:29,981 --> 00:40:31,981 ...trust me, you do not. 669 00:40:33,821 --> 00:40:35,981 We need to speak to Juliet. 670 00:40:52,981 --> 00:40:56,981 Why would you have interviewed her? Why would you have done that? 671 00:40:59,981 --> 00:41:01,981 She's been through so much already. 672 00:41:01,981 --> 00:41:04,981 Why couldn't you just let me protect her? 673 00:41:04,981 --> 00:41:07,981 Because even taking into account the circumstances, Juliet, 674 00:41:07,981 --> 00:41:10,981 you might still spend two years in jail 675 00:41:10,981 --> 00:41:12,981 away from your daughter. Which is infinitely better 676 00:41:12,981 --> 00:41:15,341 than her spending a single second there! 677 00:41:15,341 --> 00:41:17,981 Except we don't think she would. 678 00:41:17,981 --> 00:41:21,501 We think a reasonable force argument would prevail, 679 00:41:21,501 --> 00:41:23,981 and we don't think the CPS would want to prosecute. 680 00:41:23,981 --> 00:41:27,981 Now, you could then be charged with unlawful disposal 681 00:41:27,981 --> 00:41:29,981 and perverting the course of justice... 682 00:41:30,981 --> 00:41:33,981 ...but again, given the circumstances, 683 00:41:33,981 --> 00:41:36,981 we don't think the CPS would want to prosecute, 684 00:41:36,981 --> 00:41:38,981 although that's a risk you need to consider. 685 00:41:38,981 --> 00:41:41,981 Now obviously, you know, we can't guarantee anything, 686 00:41:41,981 --> 00:41:44,981 but you can decide what you want to do. 687 00:41:44,981 --> 00:41:48,981 There's... There's no record of our conversation with Taylor. 688 00:41:48,981 --> 00:41:51,981 We just wanted to let you know that you have a choice. 689 00:41:51,981 --> 00:41:53,981 Oh, my God. 690 00:42:05,981 --> 00:42:07,501 What would you do? 691 00:42:12,981 --> 00:42:16,501 So for a number of reasons, this is my last show. 692 00:42:16,501 --> 00:42:18,981 BNC have said it's because I've been guilty 693 00:42:18,981 --> 00:42:21,981 of "moral turpitude", and... maybe I have, 694 00:42:21,981 --> 00:42:23,981 but I think the real reason I've been fired is because 695 00:42:23,981 --> 00:42:25,981 I've stopped being able to say what they want me to say 696 00:42:25,981 --> 00:42:26,981 and believe it. 697 00:42:26,981 --> 00:42:29,981 Now, what they've wanted me to say was generally 698 00:42:29,981 --> 00:42:32,981 what they thought YOU believed. And of course, you're entitled 699 00:42:32,981 --> 00:42:34,821 to hold whichever views you wish, 700 00:42:34,821 --> 00:42:36,981 it is a free country with free speech, 701 00:42:36,981 --> 00:42:39,981 but I do also want to say this. 702 00:42:39,981 --> 00:42:43,981 Don't you sometimes want to hear the other side of the debate? 703 00:42:43,981 --> 00:42:45,981 I think a channel like ours should test 704 00:42:45,981 --> 00:42:47,981 and challenge its audience sometimes. 705 00:42:47,981 --> 00:42:50,181 I think we should air contrary positions 706 00:42:50,181 --> 00:42:52,981 to the ones we know you think because surely, it's only through 707 00:42:52,981 --> 00:42:55,981 a vigorous but respectful exchange of opinions, 708 00:42:55,981 --> 00:42:57,981 that new ideas, hopefully better ones, 709 00:42:57,981 --> 00:43:00,981 about how we live our lives today can begin to develop. 710 00:43:00,981 --> 00:43:03,981 Now, I was pretty angry when they first fired me, 711 00:43:03,981 --> 00:43:05,981 and I was gonna sit here and give them 712 00:43:05,981 --> 00:43:07,981 and you both barrels tonight. 713 00:43:07,981 --> 00:43:09,021 But you know what? 714 00:43:10,181 --> 00:43:11,981 Enough rage, 715 00:43:11,981 --> 00:43:14,981 enough division, it's really not getting us anywhere, is it? 716 00:43:14,981 --> 00:43:19,501 So instead I wish you all love, I wish you all peace, and for now, 717 00:43:19,501 --> 00:43:23,341 from me, it's good night, good luck, and God bless. 718 00:43:24,981 --> 00:43:26,981 WOMAN: Thank you, Mel. 719 00:43:27,981 --> 00:43:29,981 MAN: 'Coming up later...' 720 00:43:49,981 --> 00:43:52,501 What's happening, Mum? 721 00:44:10,341 --> 00:44:14,981 And you'll lose your commission, hm? Probably. 722 00:44:15,981 --> 00:44:16,981 Oh, Sam. 723 00:44:17,981 --> 00:44:21,981 Hey, I'm... not gonna be incarcerated on a barge 724 00:44:21,981 --> 00:44:24,981 for the next God knows how many months, so... 725 00:44:24,981 --> 00:44:26,981 I've no regrets. 726 00:44:26,981 --> 00:44:28,341 I took you for granted. 727 00:44:30,981 --> 00:44:32,821 And you being able to stay here... 728 00:44:33,981 --> 00:44:37,981 ...us being able to be together is way more important than my job. 729 00:44:41,981 --> 00:44:42,981 And, uh... 730 00:44:49,981 --> 00:44:50,981 SAM CHUCKLES 731 00:44:50,981 --> 00:44:52,821 Fuck it. Um... 732 00:44:53,981 --> 00:44:56,981 This is not how I planned this, um... 733 00:44:58,981 --> 00:45:00,981 How would you fancy marrying me, gorgeous man? 734 00:45:03,981 --> 00:45:06,021 Yes. Yes. Oh. 735 00:45:16,981 --> 00:45:19,981 Yep, OK, understood. 736 00:45:19,981 --> 00:45:21,981 OK, I'll tell them. Thanks. Bye. 737 00:45:27,981 --> 00:45:31,981 Not in the public interest to charge Taylor. 738 00:45:32,981 --> 00:45:33,981 And Juliet? 739 00:45:34,981 --> 00:45:36,981 Same. 740 00:45:46,981 --> 00:45:48,981 We made a decision 741 00:45:50,981 --> 00:45:52,981 Sometimes, that's all you can do. 742 00:45:52,981 --> 00:45:54,021 Yeah. 743 00:45:54,981 --> 00:45:56,981 Let's go tell 'em. 744 00:46:16,981 --> 00:46:18,981 Hey. Mel. Hey. How are you? 745 00:46:18,981 --> 00:46:20,981 I'm good, thanks, really good. 746 00:46:20,981 --> 00:46:22,981 Not seen you for a few days. 747 00:46:22,981 --> 00:46:24,981 Uh, no, I've been away for a bit. But I'm back now. 748 00:46:24,981 --> 00:46:27,981 I'm back. Good. 749 00:47:21,981 --> 00:47:23,181 'Hi, you've reached Leanne. 750 00:47:23,181 --> 00:47:25,341 'Please leave a message after the tone.' 751 00:47:25,341 --> 00:47:26,981 RECORD MESSAGE TONE 752 00:47:26,981 --> 00:47:29,341 Hey, it's me. Um... 753 00:47:29,341 --> 00:47:32,981 so thank you for telling me what you did. 754 00:47:32,981 --> 00:47:35,981 I'm not sure how you expected me to react, but... 755 00:47:35,981 --> 00:47:39,981 but you seemed pretty scared, uh, and I get that. 756 00:47:40,981 --> 00:47:45,181 So let's meet, let's, uh, talk more, let's get drunk more. 757 00:47:45,181 --> 00:47:47,981 We all have our stories, Lea. 758 00:47:47,981 --> 00:47:51,021 Stuff that we did that we wish was different. 759 00:47:51,021 --> 00:47:54,501 The people that we were that we wish we weren't. 760 00:47:54,501 --> 00:47:55,981 God knows I have. 761 00:47:55,981 --> 00:47:58,981 So let's meet. 762 00:47:58,981 --> 00:48:00,981 Yeah, let's talk. 763 00:48:00,981 --> 00:48:01,981 Call me, when you're ready. 764 00:48:49,981 --> 00:48:51,981 Subtitles by accessibility@itv.com 59658

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