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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:06,350 --> 00:00:10,180 - I'm gonna tell you a story. 2 00:00:10,270 --> 00:00:13,140 It's about an unspeakable crime. 3 00:00:13,230 --> 00:00:16,410 It's about terrible cruelty. 4 00:00:16,490 --> 00:00:19,280 It's about a fight for justice. 5 00:00:19,370 --> 00:00:22,670 It's a story you might find hard to believe. 6 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:26,980 But this story is true, and it happened to me. 7 00:00:26,980 --> 00:00:30,510 - ♪ My blood runs cold 8 00:00:32,420 --> 00:00:35,910 - I was told that Matthew died in an accident. 9 00:00:35,990 --> 00:00:39,040 - I can't imagine sitting with the kind of mystery 10 00:00:39,170 --> 00:00:40,430 of what happened with your baby brother 11 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:41,560 for a lifetime. 12 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:43,610 - That is your own living hell. 13 00:00:43,700 --> 00:00:46,220 - This was a once-in-a-lifetime case. 14 00:00:46,310 --> 00:00:47,870 - Unimaginable trauma. 15 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:51,180 - She was the keeper of secrets. 16 00:00:51,310 --> 00:00:53,360 - You would hear the yelling and the screaming. 17 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:55,360 - My parents looked at me like a deer in headlights. 18 00:00:57,060 --> 00:00:59,970 - Tracy begins to realize they were hiding something. 19 00:01:00,100 --> 00:01:02,410 - We had prosecuted some cold cases. 20 00:01:02,540 --> 00:01:05,280 This was the coldest. This was frigid. 21 00:01:05,370 --> 00:01:09,500 - There are so many twists and turns. 22 00:01:09,590 --> 00:01:13,290 - To me, it felt like the case had started right there. 23 00:01:13,380 --> 00:01:16,950 - We all have to confront our demons. 24 00:01:17,030 --> 00:01:19,730 - We were amazed at what we saw. 25 00:01:21,170 --> 00:01:22,690 - No matter what your beliefs are, 26 00:01:22,780 --> 00:01:25,520 you've gotta believe that God knew the truth. 27 00:01:25,610 --> 00:01:27,610 - It absolutely blew us away. 28 00:01:27,700 --> 00:01:29,310 - Something doesn't wash here. 29 00:01:29,390 --> 00:01:32,270 - I don't think that I have done anything wrong. 30 00:01:32,350 --> 00:01:33,530 - That really bothered me. 31 00:01:33,660 --> 00:01:35,530 - I was fearless. 32 00:01:35,620 --> 00:01:40,710 - Medical records said that I had killed my baby brother. 33 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:43,020 I--I don't unders-- I don't understand. 34 00:01:50,550 --> 00:01:53,420 - All my life, I knew there was something wrong 35 00:01:53,550 --> 00:01:55,990 with Matthew's death, 36 00:01:56,070 --> 00:02:00,600 but I was not prepared to learn the truth. 37 00:02:02,250 --> 00:02:05,430 - ♪ My blood runs cold 38 00:02:10,430 --> 00:02:14,000 - My memory works like a Polaroid. 39 00:02:14,090 --> 00:02:16,790 I have snapshots of things, and they're so vivid, 40 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:19,230 I could draw them. 41 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:21,880 But that is not always a good thing. 42 00:02:24,450 --> 00:02:30,370 My first memory is the day that Matthew died. 43 00:02:33,330 --> 00:02:35,020 - No, actually, I-- 44 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:37,590 it--it's--it's very odd to think 45 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:39,940 your whole life is wrapped around somebody 46 00:02:40,030 --> 00:02:43,160 you can't remember, but no. 47 00:02:49,470 --> 00:02:51,040 Well, let's go back. 48 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:52,430 I have all these baby pictures. 49 00:02:54,830 --> 00:02:59,400 Yeah, so me, 1970, 50 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:01,700 just a baby, before Matthew. 51 00:03:03,710 --> 00:03:10,100 My brother, Matthew, was born August 9, 1971. 52 00:03:10,190 --> 00:03:14,890 And four months later, December 27th, he died. 53 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:23,810 Very shortly after Matthew died. 54 00:03:23,900 --> 00:03:27,030 I mean, I was four days away from my second birthday, so-- 55 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:28,770 so I was not yet two. 56 00:03:32,170 --> 00:03:33,820 There's not very many pictures of Matthew. 57 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:39,390 I am a generally happy person. 58 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:43,750 I try to stay on the positive side. 59 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:45,230 Me, the kids. 60 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:50,750 Me and my grandchildren. 61 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:53,490 I'm a mimi, not a grandmother. 62 00:03:53,490 --> 00:03:56,580 I also recognize at this point in life 63 00:03:56,710 --> 00:04:00,540 that you can definitely be conditioned 64 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:04,200 to not show unhappiness, 65 00:04:04,330 --> 00:04:06,980 because if you are showing unhappiness, 66 00:04:06,990 --> 00:04:08,290 people ask questions, so. 67 00:04:26,530 --> 00:04:29,750 - I got involved with Tracyraquel in 1997. 68 00:04:29,830 --> 00:04:32,180 I covered all kinds of stories 69 00:04:32,270 --> 00:04:34,840 for local and national publications 70 00:04:34,970 --> 00:04:37,840 and was really intrigued by the backstory 71 00:04:37,970 --> 00:04:40,190 and everything that she had been through 72 00:04:40,190 --> 00:04:44,460 to really doggedly pursue the truth. 73 00:04:46,290 --> 00:04:50,900 Tracy grew up in the 1970s in Atlanta, 74 00:04:50,990 --> 00:04:53,860 in a suburban part of town, in the north end of town, 75 00:04:53,950 --> 00:04:56,430 DeKalb County. 76 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:58,860 - We always joked that we lived in the hood. 77 00:04:58,950 --> 00:05:00,650 You know, a lot of the kids in our community 78 00:05:00,740 --> 00:05:03,170 that went to our school lived in big, fancy houses, 79 00:05:03,260 --> 00:05:05,390 and we lived in apartments. 80 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:07,090 - I didn't live anywhere long enough 81 00:05:07,220 --> 00:05:09,000 to be anywhere until I was, I think, 82 00:05:09,090 --> 00:05:11,270 a sophomore in high school. 83 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:13,660 There are benefits to that because if you change schools 84 00:05:13,750 --> 00:05:15,320 four times a year, every year, you get to do 85 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:17,800 all the field trips again. 86 00:05:17,930 --> 00:05:20,100 But otherwise, no. 87 00:05:20,190 --> 00:05:23,630 I wouldn't say there was a childhood home, just a place. 88 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:26,590 This is a picture of me being a goofy cheerleader 89 00:05:26,590 --> 00:05:28,070 at 11, 12 years old. 90 00:05:30,030 --> 00:05:31,770 It's kind of my personality. 91 00:05:31,850 --> 00:05:33,460 I love sports. 92 00:05:33,550 --> 00:05:36,770 I'm very competitive, and I'm ridiculously girly. 93 00:05:36,900 --> 00:05:41,210 So a skirt and pom poms was not very far of a stretch. 94 00:05:41,300 --> 00:05:44,210 And if there was some gymnastics and some stunting, 95 00:05:44,340 --> 00:05:46,040 I'm right there. 96 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:48,870 It's the '80s, so braces and blue eyeliner. 97 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:49,910 It's really bad. 98 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:51,530 But yeah, I guess it's cute. 99 00:05:53,220 --> 00:05:56,830 - Tracy was always very responsible, independent, 100 00:05:56,830 --> 00:06:01,100 very respectful of her mom and other adults. 101 00:06:01,100 --> 00:06:05,710 I do remember thinking of her as an old soul. 102 00:06:05,840 --> 00:06:08,850 - What are cheerleaders but they're happy, peppy people 103 00:06:08,850 --> 00:06:11,850 who tell everybody to get happy and cheer somebody on? 104 00:06:11,850 --> 00:06:14,550 So I think there's probably some subconscious 105 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:15,460 symbolism in that. 106 00:06:22,900 --> 00:06:28,950 - Tracyraquel's parents are Kathie Almon and Jan Sandlin. 107 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:31,570 They were both born in 1950 108 00:06:31,650 --> 00:06:34,440 and met pretty early on at age 12. 109 00:06:36,350 --> 00:06:39,830 - Kathie dated Jan all through high school, 110 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:41,530 but not publicly. 111 00:06:43,710 --> 00:06:46,880 - Jan was sort of a big man on campus. 112 00:06:46,970 --> 00:06:51,410 He was a very mischievous, domineering sort of person. 113 00:06:51,540 --> 00:06:54,370 And Kathie, she found him charming. 114 00:06:54,460 --> 00:06:56,500 He had a lot of the girls after him, 115 00:06:56,630 --> 00:06:59,110 and she was one of them. 116 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:04,900 - But Kathie got pregnant at 15, 117 00:07:04,900 --> 00:07:07,690 and she was forbid to see him. 118 00:07:09,690 --> 00:07:11,340 Things were different. 119 00:07:11,430 --> 00:07:14,220 You know, it was 1965, and that was not acceptable. 120 00:07:14,300 --> 00:07:18,790 And her mother told her that 121 00:07:18,870 --> 00:07:22,010 someone was gonna come and just check to make sure 122 00:07:22,140 --> 00:07:24,440 that the baby and the pregnancy was okay. 123 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:30,540 And the woman actually came to do an illegal abortion 124 00:07:30,620 --> 00:07:31,630 at the time. 125 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:40,760 So I think that that probably solidified whatever heartbreak 126 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:42,810 between the two of them. 127 00:07:42,900 --> 00:07:46,160 - Somehow, she was still, you know, very drawn to him 128 00:07:46,290 --> 00:07:49,030 really early in her life. 129 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:53,860 - After all of that, she dated publicly this really nice boy, 130 00:07:53,950 --> 00:07:56,210 Ted Golder. 131 00:07:56,350 --> 00:07:58,700 And then when he was drafted, 132 00:07:58,780 --> 00:08:01,090 she found out she was pregnant with me. 133 00:08:01,180 --> 00:08:05,350 And so they got married. 134 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:09,100 - Kathie, even while she was in a relationship with Ted, 135 00:08:09,230 --> 00:08:13,010 was sort of drawn back, like the moth to the flame, to Jan. 136 00:08:15,670 --> 00:08:18,850 - Ted went off to war, and Kathie sent him 137 00:08:18,850 --> 00:08:23,240 a Dear John letter while he was deployed over in Vietnam 138 00:08:23,330 --> 00:08:24,460 saying, you know what? 139 00:08:24,550 --> 00:08:26,110 This is--this is not your child. 140 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:28,250 I don't love you. It's Jan's child. 141 00:08:28,330 --> 00:08:30,600 I'm in love with him. 142 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:32,420 Eventually, Kathie got pregnant 143 00:08:32,420 --> 00:08:35,430 with my brother, Matthew. 144 00:08:35,430 --> 00:08:39,560 And Jan literally moved in with Kathie 145 00:08:39,650 --> 00:08:42,390 and Matthew and I right after that. 146 00:08:44,390 --> 00:08:47,270 She just was head over heels in love with him. 147 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:56,970 The day that Matthew died. 148 00:08:58,930 --> 00:09:02,280 At the time, I didn't understand what all the lights 149 00:09:02,410 --> 00:09:04,630 and sirens are, and I don't really have a memory 150 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:08,810 of an emotional state at that point. 151 00:09:08,900 --> 00:09:11,550 Just asking what they were doing. 152 00:09:14,250 --> 00:09:16,340 And my parents just kind of looked at me 153 00:09:16,430 --> 00:09:18,040 like a deer in headlights. 154 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:32,830 - The day that Matthew died, Jan and Mathew 155 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:34,230 were left alone in the apartment. 156 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,530 Matthew would have been sleeping. 157 00:09:38,620 --> 00:09:42,580 Kathie and Tracy had been out running some errands. 158 00:09:42,710 --> 00:09:45,320 And then when they returned home... 159 00:09:45,410 --> 00:09:47,240 - Mr. Sandlin greeted them at the door 160 00:09:47,330 --> 00:09:49,980 and told Kathie that there was laundry downstairs 161 00:09:50,110 --> 00:09:51,900 that needed to be brought up to the apartment. 162 00:09:53,810 --> 00:09:56,380 - Jan took Tracy into the apartment. 163 00:09:56,470 --> 00:09:58,600 And when Kathie came back... 164 00:09:58,730 --> 00:10:00,430 - She went in like any mother wanting to go in 165 00:10:00,510 --> 00:10:01,780 and check on the child. 166 00:10:05,170 --> 00:10:06,820 - They go back there in the bedroom. 167 00:10:06,910 --> 00:10:09,480 And the child, the infant, Matthew Golder, 168 00:10:09,610 --> 00:10:10,740 is unresponsive. 169 00:10:14,310 --> 00:10:17,570 - They then went directly to the hospital. 170 00:10:17,660 --> 00:10:20,400 - They transported the child to Northside Hospital 171 00:10:20,490 --> 00:10:23,100 with injuries to the head, 172 00:10:23,190 --> 00:10:27,020 because that's where the child was born. 173 00:10:27,100 --> 00:10:30,760 But Northside did not have neurology on staff, 174 00:10:30,850 --> 00:10:33,280 especially for pediatrics, so they transported him 175 00:10:33,370 --> 00:10:36,460 immediately in an ambulance to DeKalb Medical Center. 176 00:10:36,550 --> 00:10:39,680 - I remember being in the car, 177 00:10:39,770 --> 00:10:44,560 standing, holding the headrest, 178 00:10:44,560 --> 00:10:46,820 and ambulances all around. 179 00:10:51,220 --> 00:10:53,440 - Matthew was taken into surgery pretty quickly 180 00:10:53,570 --> 00:10:56,090 after he got to the hospital. 181 00:10:56,180 --> 00:10:57,740 And then the neurosurgeon came out 182 00:10:57,830 --> 00:11:00,400 and said that while he was still alive, 183 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:04,450 his prognosis was quite bleak, 184 00:11:04,530 --> 00:11:05,970 and that he probably wasn't going to live. 185 00:11:07,970 --> 00:11:10,800 - Subsequently, he died there at the hospital. 186 00:11:14,890 --> 00:11:17,330 - So that's my-- that's my first memory. 187 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:28,690 - At the time that Matthew died, 188 00:11:28,780 --> 00:11:30,040 there was an elected coroner system 189 00:11:30,170 --> 00:11:32,390 instead of a forensic medical examiner system. 190 00:11:32,390 --> 00:11:35,780 And so the determinations of that elected coroner 191 00:11:35,870 --> 00:11:37,910 was that it was an accidental death. 192 00:11:40,090 --> 00:11:44,180 - Kathie said after the day that Matthew died, 193 00:11:44,180 --> 00:11:46,360 it's been torture for me ever since. 194 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:51,150 Sort of from that point on, it was a big blur. 195 00:11:54,370 --> 00:11:58,150 - A couple of months after Matthew died-- 196 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:00,240 so I would have just turned two... 197 00:12:02,770 --> 00:12:04,250 My mother, she took me out and sat me 198 00:12:04,380 --> 00:12:06,940 on this second story balcony. 199 00:12:09,290 --> 00:12:12,470 I did not understand what was happening. 200 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:18,780 And I remember Kathie... 201 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:23,790 She climbed up on the thing and jumped. 202 00:12:31,190 --> 00:12:33,490 - I suspect Kathie was dealing with an awful lot, 203 00:12:33,580 --> 00:12:36,020 grieving the loss of her infant son 204 00:12:36,100 --> 00:12:38,370 and very sad about everything that had happened. 205 00:12:38,450 --> 00:12:40,890 She had a lot of pain. 206 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:43,810 - She didn't die. 207 00:12:43,810 --> 00:12:46,770 She broke both legs and both arms. 208 00:12:48,940 --> 00:12:51,120 Yeah, it was a-- 209 00:12:51,250 --> 00:12:52,860 it was a tough time. 210 00:12:57,120 --> 00:13:01,080 I remember days later and she was on the couch 211 00:13:01,220 --> 00:13:02,520 in this full-body cast, 212 00:13:02,610 --> 00:13:05,000 and she was yelling at me, 213 00:13:05,090 --> 00:13:08,700 telling me how to scramble eggs. 214 00:13:08,790 --> 00:13:11,230 Can you imagine scrambling eggs at two? 215 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:12,400 Yeah. 216 00:13:14,530 --> 00:13:16,270 Those are moments of grief. 217 00:13:20,630 --> 00:13:22,320 Kathie was terribly unhappy. 218 00:13:22,450 --> 00:13:24,500 I know that--that she suffered a whole lot. 219 00:13:27,810 --> 00:13:30,850 Maybe she just didn't know how to function anymore. 220 00:13:34,770 --> 00:13:37,120 That's me and my gramps. 221 00:13:37,210 --> 00:13:42,300 And my gramps took me and tried to keep me out of harm's way, 222 00:13:42,390 --> 00:13:44,390 but he couldn't do that. 223 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:47,390 Just, the law didn't allow that, so. 224 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:57,180 - In December 1971, my children and I 225 00:13:57,310 --> 00:13:59,140 lived in an apartment complex. 226 00:14:01,540 --> 00:14:06,240 And lo and behold, in the apartments to the left of ours 227 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:10,110 was Kathie, Jan, and Tracy. 228 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:15,590 - I was three or four years old. 229 00:14:15,680 --> 00:14:19,950 There was this huge domestic situation that was going on. 230 00:14:20,030 --> 00:14:24,520 And I was sitting outside, alone by myself. 231 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:27,480 So my parents were screaming bloody murder. 232 00:14:30,220 --> 00:14:31,910 - You would hear the yelling and the screaming 233 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:34,350 coming out from the apartment. 234 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:36,010 - I mean, I'm terrified. 235 00:14:36,140 --> 00:14:38,620 And there were people walking on the sidewalk 236 00:14:38,750 --> 00:14:41,450 across the street who were looking 237 00:14:41,530 --> 00:14:45,840 and obviously taking notice like, wow, that's really bad. 238 00:14:45,930 --> 00:14:49,110 But nobody did anything. 239 00:14:49,190 --> 00:14:50,240 They just walked on. 240 00:14:54,590 --> 00:14:58,510 - Looking at a difference between now and then, 241 00:14:58,590 --> 00:15:02,470 frankly, most people would not have gotten involved 242 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:05,380 in cases like this, but the world was very 243 00:15:05,380 --> 00:15:08,650 different in the early 1970s. 244 00:15:11,210 --> 00:15:14,220 - I just felt like I wasn't important. 245 00:15:16,180 --> 00:15:18,660 Oh, unless you needed me to do something, 246 00:15:18,740 --> 00:15:21,360 which I was always very capable of doing. 247 00:15:25,190 --> 00:15:27,670 - Over the years after Matthew's death, 248 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:33,930 things could get pretty dire between Kathie and Jan. 249 00:15:34,060 --> 00:15:39,030 - So Tracy played the role of a parent. 250 00:15:39,110 --> 00:15:43,030 She was the runner of the house. 251 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:46,380 - I was cooking at three years old. 252 00:15:46,510 --> 00:15:52,340 I was paying bills at five, buying cigarettes and beer. 253 00:15:52,340 --> 00:15:55,130 - And then when Tracy is about four or five, 254 00:15:55,220 --> 00:15:58,830 her brother Jason is born. 255 00:15:58,910 --> 00:16:02,920 - Jason is Jan and Kathie's son. 256 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:04,960 I don't know if it's just how it was back then 257 00:16:05,050 --> 00:16:06,970 or if it's just how it was for me, 258 00:16:07,100 --> 00:16:09,450 but I was always his caretaker. 259 00:16:09,530 --> 00:16:11,230 I had to take care of him. 260 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:13,760 - She made sure that her brother, Jason, 261 00:16:13,890 --> 00:16:16,320 was gotten off the bus, did his homework. 262 00:16:16,410 --> 00:16:19,670 She made the meals, cleaned up afterwards. 263 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:21,680 And with her mom-- 264 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:25,510 I remember her having to check on her mom a lot. 265 00:16:27,510 --> 00:16:30,600 - No child should have to be dealing with that. 266 00:16:35,650 --> 00:16:40,780 - Matthew's death was a deep blow to Kathie and Tracy, 267 00:16:40,870 --> 00:16:42,780 just in different ways. 268 00:16:45,570 --> 00:16:50,880 - I was always told that Matthew died in an accident. 269 00:16:50,970 --> 00:16:56,020 And it was crib death, that Matthew fell out of the bed, 270 00:16:56,150 --> 00:17:00,060 that he slipped between the mattress and the bars 271 00:17:00,150 --> 00:17:02,200 and suffocated. 272 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:05,460 That was the general story amongst everyone in my family. 273 00:17:05,550 --> 00:17:06,940 And no one really talked about it. 274 00:17:09,380 --> 00:17:11,030 - Back in those days, there was a coroner. 275 00:17:11,120 --> 00:17:12,680 There was not a medical examiner. 276 00:17:12,770 --> 00:17:16,040 The coroner had classified the death as an accident. 277 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:22,480 - And then one day, I was in the car with Kathie, 278 00:17:22,610 --> 00:17:25,570 and she said, you know, Matthew's birthday is gonna be 279 00:17:25,700 --> 00:17:27,000 day after tomorrow or something. 280 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:31,750 But for some reason, I said, 281 00:17:31,750 --> 00:17:33,970 if you don't take me to see his grave, 282 00:17:34,050 --> 00:17:35,400 I'm never speaking to you again. 283 00:17:38,620 --> 00:17:40,840 I don't know why I said that, honestly. 284 00:17:43,980 --> 00:17:46,020 Her reaction was shocked. 285 00:17:48,370 --> 00:17:51,290 And we went back home as we were maybe a block away. 286 00:17:51,420 --> 00:17:57,340 And she told Jan, and he beat me with a belt. 287 00:18:01,430 --> 00:18:03,520 Some people think we all got whuppings 288 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:06,740 with belts back in the day, but it wasn't like that. 289 00:18:06,740 --> 00:18:08,260 This was-- 290 00:18:16,790 --> 00:18:18,230 No, it wasn't discipline. 291 00:18:18,310 --> 00:18:20,800 It was "don't ever talk about this again." 292 00:18:29,930 --> 00:18:33,550 He punished me... 293 00:18:33,630 --> 00:18:35,160 in the name of Matthew. 294 00:18:47,870 --> 00:18:50,130 - You don't know what's happening to you 295 00:18:50,220 --> 00:18:51,430 when you're young, but you know, 296 00:18:51,570 --> 00:18:56,960 I look back on that now, and that just blows my mind. 297 00:18:57,050 --> 00:18:59,790 - On the surface, Tracy is growing up 298 00:18:59,920 --> 00:19:02,050 to be a beautiful girl. 299 00:19:02,050 --> 00:19:06,010 She's a cheerleader, has friends. 300 00:19:06,100 --> 00:19:08,800 - Tracy was one of those friends who never 301 00:19:08,890 --> 00:19:12,020 realized her true beauty. 302 00:19:12,110 --> 00:19:14,020 We cheered together for a few years, 303 00:19:14,110 --> 00:19:17,030 and she was just so vivacious. 304 00:19:17,110 --> 00:19:20,290 But there was always a little bit of anxiety 305 00:19:20,420 --> 00:19:23,160 and sadness to her. 306 00:19:23,290 --> 00:19:27,300 - You might never have known how troubled she was. 307 00:19:29,260 --> 00:19:31,260 - Until I was ten, 308 00:19:31,340 --> 00:19:36,740 Jan was very much a part of Kathie's life. 309 00:19:36,830 --> 00:19:41,570 - Jan and Kathie, they would be together for some time, 310 00:19:41,700 --> 00:19:44,880 and then they would flit away, see other people. 311 00:19:44,970 --> 00:19:48,670 But they always seemed to be drawn back to each other. 312 00:19:48,750 --> 00:19:52,630 Sometimes Jan would be very romantic and bring her flowers 313 00:19:52,710 --> 00:19:55,150 and make her feel like, you know, 314 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:57,540 she was the most important woman in the world. 315 00:19:59,550 --> 00:20:02,680 And then they would have heated arguments. 316 00:20:02,770 --> 00:20:06,380 And they seemed to repeat that cycle for--for years. 317 00:20:08,470 --> 00:20:12,170 - Tracy's mom was, um, a tricky one. 318 00:20:12,250 --> 00:20:15,430 I just remember her being very easy to anger, 319 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:18,740 but also very despondent a lot of times. 320 00:20:18,870 --> 00:20:22,920 I know Tracy felt like she was walking on eggshells a lot, 321 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:26,490 and, um, I felt a vibe that was definitely a little dark. 322 00:20:28,970 --> 00:20:32,010 - Now, I don't know if-- if she was more unhappy 323 00:20:32,140 --> 00:20:37,150 when Jan was gone, but Kathie and I butted heads. 324 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:38,320 We didn't get along. 325 00:20:40,330 --> 00:20:42,110 - Together, there was tension. 326 00:20:44,420 --> 00:20:48,940 And this issue of Matthew always hung there, 327 00:20:48,940 --> 00:20:52,470 whether it was spoken or unspoken. 328 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:56,950 Kathie, she's deeply troubled for many years. 329 00:20:59,170 --> 00:21:01,040 - I think she was miserable. 330 00:21:01,130 --> 00:21:05,570 And she was emotionally abusive and neglectful, in my opinion. 331 00:21:08,220 --> 00:21:11,840 I was in the first grade and, um, fell asleep with gum, 332 00:21:11,970 --> 00:21:13,790 got gum in my hair. 333 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:18,490 Kathie's answer to that was just to shave my head... 334 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:21,320 And then send me to school. 335 00:21:29,900 --> 00:21:31,510 When you think about that-- 336 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:33,770 like, I can't imagine doing that to my child. 337 00:21:35,820 --> 00:21:39,600 - You know, I never saw any kind of maternal gestures 338 00:21:39,730 --> 00:21:41,340 towards Tracy. 339 00:21:41,430 --> 00:21:44,260 I never saw comfort if Tracy was sad. 340 00:21:44,390 --> 00:21:46,170 I never saw encouragement for her. 341 00:21:46,260 --> 00:21:50,350 I definitely felt like she did everything she could, 342 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:52,400 and it was never enough to get that kind of attention 343 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:54,530 from her mom. 344 00:21:54,620 --> 00:21:58,800 - When Tracy was a teenager and, you know, 345 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:02,540 going through a lot of the things that all teens do, 346 00:22:02,630 --> 00:22:06,060 she also had layered in this sort of deep sorrow 347 00:22:06,060 --> 00:22:08,280 about her family. 348 00:22:11,550 --> 00:22:13,330 - I was raised in the South. 349 00:22:13,420 --> 00:22:15,510 You're supposed to smile and nod 350 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,080 and tell everybody that you're having a great day. 351 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,030 We don't wanna burden anyone. 352 00:22:22,210 --> 00:22:24,520 - But looking back now, 353 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:26,740 there was definitely something deeper 354 00:22:26,820 --> 00:22:28,130 brimming under the surface. 355 00:22:30,130 --> 00:22:35,750 - I was the most unhappy child at 13, 14 years old. 356 00:22:35,830 --> 00:22:37,700 And... 357 00:22:43,540 --> 00:22:46,580 - She tried to have me hospitalized. 358 00:22:49,850 --> 00:22:52,500 Kathie woke me in the middle of the night 359 00:22:52,590 --> 00:22:57,110 and took me to a state hospital. 360 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,640 I think she was just trying to get rid of me. 361 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:09,520 I spent 48 hours there. 362 00:23:12,260 --> 00:23:14,830 They were sick kids. 363 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:19,830 They were violent criminals. 364 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:21,490 It was a very scary, 365 00:23:21,570 --> 00:23:24,230 terrifying place, and... [sniffles] 366 00:23:24,360 --> 00:23:27,930 I didn't understand what was happening. 367 00:23:28,020 --> 00:23:31,150 [sniffles] It was my--my Aunt June who came and said, 368 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:33,890 this is not gonna work and this is wrong, 369 00:23:33,980 --> 00:23:36,200 and took me back home. 370 00:23:38,770 --> 00:23:41,420 And then, on top of that, oh, by the way, 371 00:23:41,510 --> 00:23:45,550 I was always trying to figure out what happened to Matthew. 372 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:49,910 And then, also, I had severe headaches, severe nightmares. 373 00:23:49,990 --> 00:23:52,560 And they did all these tests. 374 00:23:52,650 --> 00:23:54,910 And it turned out that I had a-- 375 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:56,260 a seizure disorder. 376 00:23:59,870 --> 00:24:02,480 And so they put me on a medication for it. 377 00:24:06,750 --> 00:24:10,270 Quite honestly, at that point, I was suicidal. 378 00:24:12,580 --> 00:24:14,150 I didn't wanna live, and I certainly didn't 379 00:24:14,150 --> 00:24:16,240 wanna live in that house. 380 00:24:20,590 --> 00:24:23,200 - And honestly, I thought I'd be with Matthew. 381 00:24:27,470 --> 00:24:30,730 - So I started saving medication to OD. 382 00:24:35,690 --> 00:24:38,870 - And--and I just took it all at once. 383 00:24:52,230 --> 00:24:53,620 - You're really just thinking, how do I-- 384 00:24:53,750 --> 00:24:55,100 how do I get out of this? 385 00:24:58,580 --> 00:25:00,410 It was a sad day. 386 00:25:00,500 --> 00:25:01,980 I probably should have died, according to what they said. 387 00:25:08,460 --> 00:25:09,730 That just breaks my heart. 388 00:25:12,250 --> 00:25:16,250 - I woke up to Kathie standing over me, 389 00:25:16,340 --> 00:25:17,990 shaking my face and saying, 390 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:21,040 oh, my God, what have you done now? 391 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:24,440 And all I could think was, wow, I'm really still here? 392 00:25:28,570 --> 00:25:31,010 I was definitely at a breaking point. 393 00:25:31,090 --> 00:25:37,140 But rather than just looking at my own abuse and suffering, 394 00:25:37,270 --> 00:25:39,930 I took on this whole full thing of, 395 00:25:40,020 --> 00:25:42,240 I'm gonna find out what happened to Matthew. 396 00:25:45,500 --> 00:25:48,160 I was always just trying to understand how he died, 397 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:49,720 what was his cause of death. 398 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:55,340 And I would ask questions from everybody in my family 399 00:25:55,420 --> 00:25:57,030 until they would be like, okay, enough. 400 00:25:57,120 --> 00:25:59,080 Enough. 401 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,950 There was a lot of pushback. 402 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,000 - This is one of the biggest events in our family, 403 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,260 and we don't talk about it? 404 00:26:06,350 --> 00:26:09,220 They would shut her down and tell her, don't go there. 405 00:26:11,530 --> 00:26:13,830 But she also begins to realize that her mother 406 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:15,360 is hiding something. 407 00:26:18,050 --> 00:26:22,760 So she has another go-round with her mother to try to probe 408 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:24,370 and find out what happened to Matthew. 409 00:26:29,150 --> 00:26:32,200 - She wouldn't say any details, with the exception of, 410 00:26:32,290 --> 00:26:35,860 when Matthew died, he suffered a head injury. 411 00:26:38,210 --> 00:26:40,730 - As she's really probing and pushing her mother, 412 00:26:40,820 --> 00:26:42,730 things get ratcheted up to a point where, 413 00:26:42,730 --> 00:26:44,390 you know, Kathie blurts out... 414 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:50,040 - At the hospital, the surgeon came out and said, 415 00:26:50,170 --> 00:26:53,000 the injury to his head was as if you took your fist 416 00:26:53,090 --> 00:26:54,310 and put it through a watermelon. 417 00:26:57,790 --> 00:26:58,880 I'll never forget that. 418 00:27:09,980 --> 00:27:13,280 - As a mother, I can't even imagine hearing 419 00:27:13,370 --> 00:27:16,680 what the surgeon came out and said. 420 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,810 It's so horrible, and it's shocking. 421 00:27:23,990 --> 00:27:27,820 But that was a turning point. 422 00:27:29,650 --> 00:27:32,220 Then it just really opened this whole thing 423 00:27:32,300 --> 00:27:34,300 where, what happened to him? 424 00:27:34,390 --> 00:27:37,000 Why didn't anybody do anything? 425 00:27:37,130 --> 00:27:38,740 Why is there no investigation? 426 00:27:38,740 --> 00:27:40,830 Why did we not look into this? 427 00:27:45,050 --> 00:27:48,320 - I can't imagine sitting with the kind of mystery 428 00:27:48,410 --> 00:27:50,540 of what happened with your baby brother for a lifetime. 429 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,630 - So when I was 15, I went down 430 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,200 to DeKalb County Police Department, 431 00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:01,380 and they came out and gave me an incident report. 432 00:28:01,460 --> 00:28:03,640 And it said that the police officer 433 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:05,420 had arrived on the scene. 434 00:28:05,510 --> 00:28:07,340 And what happened? 435 00:28:07,420 --> 00:28:10,780 Well, he's got a head injury, the ambulance is coming. 436 00:28:10,860 --> 00:28:14,170 And they were transferring him from one hospital to another. 437 00:28:14,260 --> 00:28:15,170 And that's all. 438 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:21,610 And there was no investigation. 439 00:28:21,700 --> 00:28:23,090 Nobody had ever done anything 440 00:28:23,220 --> 00:28:25,440 because it was an accident, supposedly. 441 00:28:27,710 --> 00:28:30,270 That just didn't make any kind of sense to me. 442 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,750 But unfortunately, nobody was listening 443 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,370 to what I have to say. 444 00:28:35,450 --> 00:28:38,630 - But that's when I started noticing a change with Tracy, 445 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:40,410 and I didn't see her as often. 446 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:44,980 I just thought Tracy was growing up 447 00:28:45,070 --> 00:28:46,860 and changing, getting deeper. 448 00:28:50,030 --> 00:28:51,430 - I didn't know what I wanted to do. 449 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:53,510 I didn't know who I was. 450 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:55,780 But I needed to get out. 451 00:28:57,170 --> 00:29:00,130 I lived with Kathie until I was 18 or 19. 452 00:29:00,260 --> 00:29:03,220 And I think at some point, she just-- 453 00:29:03,350 --> 00:29:04,830 nothing changed. 454 00:29:04,830 --> 00:29:07,790 Nothing changed with her. 455 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:12,230 - When you live in an environment of trauma-- 456 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,880 she was just ready to escape. 457 00:29:15,970 --> 00:29:19,280 - And then I decided I was finished with Kathie 458 00:29:19,370 --> 00:29:22,590 and moved on. 459 00:29:24,630 --> 00:29:27,680 And I moved out on my own, worked four jobs, 460 00:29:27,770 --> 00:29:30,380 and, you know, just trying to be away. 461 00:29:30,510 --> 00:29:32,290 And then I joined the army. 462 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:37,510 I thought, I'm gonna go in the army, 463 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:38,730 I'm gonna jump out of airplanes, 464 00:29:38,820 --> 00:29:40,690 I'm gonna go to Ranger School, 465 00:29:40,780 --> 00:29:42,260 and I'm gonna learn all these skills 466 00:29:42,350 --> 00:29:44,870 that are gonna make me super, you know-- 467 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,050 super tough, and no one can ever hurt me. 468 00:29:48,870 --> 00:29:52,400 - She is shoulder to shoulder with the men. 469 00:29:52,490 --> 00:29:56,800 And the rigor of the training, all of the discipline, 470 00:29:56,880 --> 00:30:00,710 all of the physical challenges, really kind of turn her on. 471 00:30:02,150 --> 00:30:03,410 - I was stationed overseas. 472 00:30:03,540 --> 00:30:05,980 So I was learning who I was. 473 00:30:06,110 --> 00:30:09,070 You know, I had a little bit more confidence. 474 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:12,330 Got married. I decided to have children. 475 00:30:12,420 --> 00:30:16,030 - And becoming a mother had a big effect on her. 476 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,430 They light a fire under her to really 477 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:20,510 pursue more of the deep background 478 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:22,210 on what happened to Matthew. 479 00:30:22,340 --> 00:30:25,000 So this begins her quest into looking for 480 00:30:25,130 --> 00:30:26,560 as much information as she can get. 481 00:30:30,050 --> 00:30:33,220 - And for the first time since the age of 15, 482 00:30:33,310 --> 00:30:38,920 it occurred to me that, well, I can request medical records. 483 00:30:39,010 --> 00:30:42,230 I can--I can request death records, you know. 484 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,100 And so I did. 485 00:30:47,540 --> 00:30:50,540 - When she gets the medical records back from the hospital, 486 00:30:50,630 --> 00:30:52,110 that's the big moment. 487 00:30:55,380 --> 00:31:01,030 - That's when the world kind of caved in around me. 488 00:31:01,030 --> 00:31:04,730 I wasn't prepared for what they said. 489 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,000 First, there was the skull fractures, 490 00:31:10,130 --> 00:31:13,050 which led to his death. 491 00:31:14,870 --> 00:31:17,480 But then it got to where the surgeon and the doctors 492 00:31:17,570 --> 00:31:20,570 asked what happened. 493 00:31:20,660 --> 00:31:26,150 It stated, the mother states that... 494 00:31:26,230 --> 00:31:27,970 the baby sister threw him out of the bed. 495 00:31:31,930 --> 00:31:35,420 I had killed my baby brother. 496 00:31:45,030 --> 00:31:47,250 The realization that I killed Matthew, 497 00:31:47,340 --> 00:31:50,390 I just didn't see that coming. 498 00:31:50,470 --> 00:31:52,260 And all I could think was, 499 00:31:52,350 --> 00:31:54,830 I--I don't unders-- I don't understand. 500 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:04,010 You have to say, wait a minute, did I black out? 501 00:32:04,100 --> 00:32:06,530 Is there any kind of possibility 502 00:32:06,660 --> 00:32:10,410 that I could have done this, that I had killed Matthew? 503 00:32:13,110 --> 00:32:16,200 So I called my grandmother first, and I-- 504 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:21,160 I asked her, do you know this? 505 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,330 And she said, very matter of fact-- 506 00:32:23,420 --> 00:32:26,550 not in a cruel way--but she said, honey, yes, we know this. 507 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:28,030 Everybody knows this. 508 00:32:28,030 --> 00:32:31,040 It's--it's-- we've always known that. 509 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:34,430 Once I got Kathie on the phone, well, she said, 510 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:36,000 well, you know, it was an accident. 511 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,130 You picked him up, and you dropped him. 512 00:32:49,490 --> 00:32:52,710 Is this the horrible secret that's been going on? 513 00:33:00,670 --> 00:33:02,590 - From what I remember originally, 514 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,240 on the date Matt died, 515 00:33:05,330 --> 00:33:09,940 Kathie had come home with Tracy and came upstairs 516 00:33:09,940 --> 00:33:11,950 and went to see how Matt was. 517 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:17,870 Jan told her he's sleeping. Everything's good. 518 00:33:17,950 --> 00:33:19,350 And so why don't you go downstairs 519 00:33:19,430 --> 00:33:22,440 and get the laundry from the car? 520 00:33:22,570 --> 00:33:25,310 And so she did, and when she came back upstairs, 521 00:33:25,310 --> 00:33:28,310 Tracy was no longer sitting in the chair. 522 00:33:28,310 --> 00:33:32,140 And when she ran to find Tracy, 523 00:33:32,230 --> 00:33:35,360 she was playing in the crib, 524 00:33:35,450 --> 00:33:37,580 and Matt was on the floor gasping for air. 525 00:33:37,670 --> 00:33:40,710 And at that time, Jan told her it must have been an accident. 526 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:44,980 Tracy must have thrown Matt out of the crib. 527 00:33:47,370 --> 00:33:52,290 And that's what we understood was the first version 528 00:33:52,380 --> 00:33:54,550 of what may have happened to Matt. 529 00:33:58,430 --> 00:34:03,220 Imagine all you know is that you had a brother. 530 00:34:03,300 --> 00:34:05,350 The brother died when he was four months. 531 00:34:05,430 --> 00:34:08,830 You've heard a variety of reasons for several years 532 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:13,570 and ultimately being told you were responsible for it, 533 00:34:13,570 --> 00:34:15,230 that you killed him. 534 00:34:17,140 --> 00:34:19,140 - It just blows my mind. 535 00:34:19,230 --> 00:34:21,930 And of course, I was sad and betrayed. 536 00:34:22,020 --> 00:34:24,540 And I didn't understand. 537 00:34:24,630 --> 00:34:27,200 And I was angry. 538 00:34:27,330 --> 00:34:29,680 And I just didn't-- [sighs] 539 00:34:29,810 --> 00:34:32,720 I mean, honestly, it just didn't make any sense. 540 00:34:32,810 --> 00:34:35,070 So I really needed the answer myself. 541 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,950 But also, I--I just didn't believe it. 542 00:34:38,030 --> 00:34:40,640 I just didn't believe that it was possible. 543 00:34:44,690 --> 00:34:45,910 - She wasn't big enough. 544 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,090 She wasn't old enough. 545 00:34:48,170 --> 00:34:50,130 She couldn't have done that. 546 00:34:50,260 --> 00:34:53,130 I had children the same--you know, right at the same ages. 547 00:34:53,220 --> 00:34:55,960 They couldn't pick each other up. 548 00:34:57,830 --> 00:35:00,490 But everyone was saying she had done that. 549 00:35:00,620 --> 00:35:03,410 The police were at the apartments. 550 00:35:03,490 --> 00:35:05,190 And I made that statement, and I said, 551 00:35:05,190 --> 00:35:06,930 that kid couldn't do that. 552 00:35:07,020 --> 00:35:08,890 It's not humanly possible. 553 00:35:09,020 --> 00:35:11,720 And they said, no, she picked the baby up, 554 00:35:11,810 --> 00:35:13,500 and the rail wasn't down, 555 00:35:13,630 --> 00:35:16,900 and thrown the baby out of the bed. 556 00:35:16,900 --> 00:35:19,030 And it didn't make sense to me. 557 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,510 But you went with it, and you just said, 558 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:23,820 well, I can't see how that's possible, 559 00:35:23,820 --> 00:35:25,510 but you're the police. 560 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:27,600 You know more than we do. 561 00:35:27,690 --> 00:35:29,560 - And basically, what the DeKalb Police Department 562 00:35:29,650 --> 00:35:33,260 told her was that it had been ruled as an accidental death, 563 00:35:33,350 --> 00:35:34,910 and she didn't do it on purpose. 564 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:36,000 It was not a crime. 565 00:35:41,700 --> 00:35:45,450 - Years later, I was living in Savannah. 566 00:35:45,530 --> 00:35:48,670 And my daughter, Goldie, was 18 months old, 567 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:50,450 getting close to two. 568 00:35:50,540 --> 00:35:52,710 Goldie's birthday is one day before mine, 569 00:35:52,720 --> 00:35:54,240 so it's pretty relative. 570 00:35:54,240 --> 00:35:56,110 We had brought groceries in, 571 00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,290 and there was a gallon of milk sitting in front of the door, 572 00:35:58,370 --> 00:36:00,980 and she was trying to lift this gallon of milk 573 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,200 to get it in the kitchen. 574 00:36:03,290 --> 00:36:07,430 And she could not even drag it. 575 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,260 A gallon of milk weighs eight or nine pounds. 576 00:36:10,340 --> 00:36:12,910 And at four months old, 577 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:16,480 Matthew weighed almost double that. 578 00:36:16,570 --> 00:36:19,310 So how was it that I, at two years old, 579 00:36:19,390 --> 00:36:22,350 picked this four-month-old infant up, 580 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:26,710 lifted him over the side of a crib, 581 00:36:26,790 --> 00:36:29,270 and threw him onto the floor? 582 00:36:30,710 --> 00:36:33,100 Rationally speaking, if something doesn't add up, 583 00:36:33,230 --> 00:36:34,670 then it--it just doesn't. 584 00:36:37,540 --> 00:36:40,200 I just couldn't get it out of my head. 585 00:36:40,330 --> 00:36:43,510 - Looking at that makes her realize 586 00:36:43,590 --> 00:36:46,200 that something doesn't wash here. 587 00:36:46,290 --> 00:36:48,510 - It's like a light went on. 588 00:36:48,510 --> 00:36:51,510 But if I didn't do it, who did? 589 00:36:56,210 --> 00:36:58,260 I think in my mind, everything just expedited. 590 00:37:00,610 --> 00:37:03,530 I called DeKalb County Police Department. 591 00:37:03,610 --> 00:37:05,750 I called the FBI. They didn't have time. 592 00:37:05,830 --> 00:37:08,050 You know, it's a cold case. It's an old case. 593 00:37:08,180 --> 00:37:11,790 There's no evidence, and there's no hope. 594 00:37:11,930 --> 00:37:14,100 I worked harder, made more calls, 595 00:37:14,190 --> 00:37:15,930 reached out to more people. 596 00:37:16,060 --> 00:37:17,370 I wasn't gonna stop. 597 00:37:20,190 --> 00:37:21,670 It was about doing the right thing 598 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:23,720 and--and finding the truth. 599 00:37:26,460 --> 00:37:29,730 I called the DeKalb County Medical Examiner's Office. 600 00:37:31,860 --> 00:37:36,080 And I got an investigator for them who was retired Homicide 601 00:37:36,210 --> 00:37:38,300 from DeKalb County, Jim Mabe. 602 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:44,480 - Tracy's case was 20-some-plus years old. 603 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:46,180 And you may ask yourself, well, why-- 604 00:37:46,310 --> 00:37:48,270 why would I take it? 605 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:52,660 First of all, she wasn't interested in money, fame, 606 00:37:52,750 --> 00:37:54,790 or fortune, or anything like that. 607 00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:58,620 She was simply wanting to know the truth about what happened. 608 00:38:01,370 --> 00:38:02,980 Well, one of the mottos that we have 609 00:38:03,060 --> 00:38:04,370 in the medical examiner's office, 610 00:38:04,370 --> 00:38:06,240 it isn't justice that we seek. 611 00:38:06,330 --> 00:38:08,900 It's truth, so justice can be served. 612 00:38:09,030 --> 00:38:11,550 That was one reason I took it. 613 00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:17,300 The other reason, her father was Jan Barry Sandlin. 614 00:38:17,430 --> 00:38:20,430 The truth was, that shocked me. 615 00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:32,880 - Before I came to the medical examiner's office, 616 00:38:33,010 --> 00:38:35,530 I'd been assigned a cold case file 617 00:38:35,530 --> 00:38:37,530 where a police officer had been killed. 618 00:38:39,490 --> 00:38:41,710 Officer Corn was shot multiple times 619 00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:44,410 with his own handgun in an apartment complex 620 00:38:44,500 --> 00:38:46,280 that he was working security. 621 00:38:52,240 --> 00:38:55,680 And one of the people that I came across who became 622 00:38:55,770 --> 00:38:58,680 a person of interest in that police officer death 623 00:38:58,810 --> 00:39:01,900 was Jan Sandlin. 624 00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:03,340 I couldn't believe it. That was her dad. 625 00:39:06,300 --> 00:39:08,350 - Well, for me, it was just like, what? 626 00:39:11,870 --> 00:39:13,260 - It was back in the '70s. 627 00:39:13,350 --> 00:39:14,700 We were asked by the colonel 628 00:39:14,830 --> 00:39:17,180 who heads up the Criminal Investigation Division 629 00:39:17,270 --> 00:39:18,830 to look into it. 630 00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:20,920 There were so many avenues to go down. 631 00:39:21,010 --> 00:39:24,840 And when we got to Jan Sandlin, 632 00:39:24,930 --> 00:39:26,540 he was never charged because there was never 633 00:39:26,670 --> 00:39:28,710 enough evidence to even get a warrant for Jan. 634 00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:41,420 - Jan Barry Sandlin was ostensibly connected 635 00:39:41,510 --> 00:39:42,470 with the Dixie Mafia. 636 00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:46,730 They were known for stealing cars 637 00:39:46,820 --> 00:39:49,470 and running drugs throughout the South. 638 00:39:51,780 --> 00:39:54,520 When law enforcement started investigating them, 639 00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:55,650 they became very vicious. 640 00:39:59,140 --> 00:40:01,400 The district attorney in Jackson County, Georgia, 641 00:40:01,530 --> 00:40:04,180 who was investigating them, was blown up in his car. 642 00:40:08,450 --> 00:40:09,710 Our investigation showed Mr. Sandlin 643 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:11,970 had ties with the Dixie Mafia 644 00:40:12,060 --> 00:40:15,200 and been involved in other crimes as well. 645 00:40:21,240 --> 00:40:24,770 - I was best friends with Jan Berry Sandlin's 646 00:40:24,900 --> 00:40:28,770 first wife, Nancy Tegeder. 647 00:40:28,860 --> 00:40:32,040 And before Jan was married to Kathie, 648 00:40:32,130 --> 00:40:35,130 Jan went out with Nancy. 649 00:40:35,260 --> 00:40:37,910 And she was pregnant. 650 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:42,530 - It was alleged Jan Sandlin was not the father. 651 00:40:45,090 --> 00:40:49,490 And in September of 1971, Dan's first wife died 652 00:40:49,580 --> 00:40:51,540 of a gunshot wound to the abdomen. 653 00:40:54,150 --> 00:40:55,630 It was ruled a suicide. 654 00:40:58,590 --> 00:41:00,150 Of all the cases that I've worked, 655 00:41:00,240 --> 00:41:02,630 which is over 5,000 cases-- 656 00:41:02,720 --> 00:41:05,460 I've had them overdose, hang themselves-- 657 00:41:05,460 --> 00:41:07,990 I've never had a woman shoot herself in the abdomen, 658 00:41:08,070 --> 00:41:09,030 especially pregnant. 659 00:41:13,380 --> 00:41:15,600 - But, by the way, it's the same coroner 660 00:41:15,690 --> 00:41:20,130 at the time who said Matthew's was an accidental death, so. 661 00:41:24,610 --> 00:41:26,570 - Maybe a week or a couple weeks later 662 00:41:26,660 --> 00:41:31,790 after Nancy's death, Jan moves in with Kathie Almon. 663 00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:34,490 And then a couple months later, Matthew died. 664 00:41:37,450 --> 00:41:40,450 - In a matter of six months, three people died. 665 00:41:43,720 --> 00:41:45,020 - And then the police came one day. 666 00:41:47,030 --> 00:41:50,770 He had been arrested in Florida on multiple charges. 667 00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:57,250 - Jan is convicted of armed robbery, gets a life sentence, 668 00:41:57,250 --> 00:41:59,210 and for all intents and purposes, 669 00:41:59,300 --> 00:42:00,780 is out of their lives. 670 00:42:04,300 --> 00:42:07,180 - As a human being, I think you have a moment 671 00:42:07,260 --> 00:42:08,870 where you have to ask the question, 672 00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:12,490 is it possible Matthew's death wasn't an accident? 673 00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:23,020 - So I started to look into Matthew's death. 674 00:42:23,110 --> 00:42:25,330 It was intriguing enough and brought up enough red flags 675 00:42:25,460 --> 00:42:27,630 to at least look into the case. 676 00:42:27,720 --> 00:42:29,850 So I took it to Dr. Joe Burton, 677 00:42:29,940 --> 00:42:31,640 who, at that time, was the chief medical examiner 678 00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:33,160 for DeKalb County, Georgia, 679 00:42:33,290 --> 00:42:34,680 and showed him all that we had and said, 680 00:42:34,810 --> 00:42:36,340 can we investigate this? 681 00:42:36,420 --> 00:42:37,340 He said, absolutely. 682 00:42:40,950 --> 00:42:44,000 - Dr. Burton came to my office with Jim Mabe 683 00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:46,220 to talk about the case. 684 00:42:46,300 --> 00:42:49,130 Most cases start with a Homicide unit 685 00:42:49,260 --> 00:42:50,920 of the police department, 686 00:42:51,050 --> 00:42:53,960 and then the medical investigator, 687 00:42:54,050 --> 00:42:55,360 along with the medical examiner, 688 00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:57,180 determines cause of death. 689 00:42:57,310 --> 00:43:00,620 And together, they come see the district attorney. 690 00:43:00,710 --> 00:43:03,230 It is very rare for the medical examiner, 691 00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:06,150 on his or her own, to come see us and say, 692 00:43:06,150 --> 00:43:08,150 you need to take a hard look at this case. 693 00:43:11,550 --> 00:43:16,420 - When I was first asked to become involved in this case, 694 00:43:16,510 --> 00:43:20,770 medical records were obtained from the day 695 00:43:20,900 --> 00:43:23,690 that Matthew had become fatally injured, 696 00:43:23,780 --> 00:43:29,480 and Dr. Burton asked me to independently 697 00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:31,830 develop an opinion on what I think may have happened 698 00:43:31,910 --> 00:43:34,790 and what I think did not happen. 699 00:43:34,790 --> 00:43:36,660 - I remember Dr. Burton's exact words. 700 00:43:36,740 --> 00:43:38,620 There's no way in hell that this child died 701 00:43:38,750 --> 00:43:39,830 from being pushed out of a crib. 702 00:43:41,580 --> 00:43:43,880 - And that's when those wheels began to turn. 703 00:43:48,230 --> 00:43:50,630 - I first met Tracy at our office. 704 00:43:50,720 --> 00:43:54,760 She was quite the fighter and didn't take no for an answer. 705 00:43:56,810 --> 00:43:59,200 While we had prosecuted some cold cases, 706 00:43:59,290 --> 00:44:00,200 this was the coldest. 707 00:44:00,330 --> 00:44:01,250 This was frigid. 708 00:44:02,900 --> 00:44:04,600 - If I'm being honest, it was a case 709 00:44:04,690 --> 00:44:07,120 that I knew was going to have challenges, 710 00:44:07,210 --> 00:44:10,430 that there were lots of technical and legal issues 711 00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:11,870 with something that was so old. 712 00:44:11,950 --> 00:44:14,170 There were also some real practical issues 713 00:44:14,170 --> 00:44:18,220 of what kind of evidence would exist. 714 00:44:18,350 --> 00:44:21,050 - We just knew that 4 1/2 month-olds, 715 00:44:21,140 --> 00:44:24,100 they do fall out of cribs, and, sometimes, 716 00:44:24,230 --> 00:44:27,710 even that young where the bones have not calcified, 717 00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:29,930 you may get a hair fracture of the skull. 718 00:44:30,020 --> 00:44:32,540 You don't get death. 719 00:44:32,630 --> 00:44:34,500 Unless there was some underlying cause, 720 00:44:34,630 --> 00:44:36,720 I kept pushing them, saying that there could be 721 00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:38,940 other reasons that this child died 722 00:44:39,020 --> 00:44:41,200 that we don't know about and we cannot know about 723 00:44:41,330 --> 00:44:43,160 without an autopsy. 724 00:44:43,250 --> 00:44:44,990 There was no autopsy report. 725 00:44:46,860 --> 00:44:50,820 - Because his death had been ruled an accident, 726 00:44:50,910 --> 00:44:54,170 we knew we had possession of the medical records, 727 00:44:54,260 --> 00:44:56,430 and we knew what the findings were. 728 00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:59,220 And we knew that there was a skull fracture. 729 00:44:59,310 --> 00:45:01,960 And we knew collectively that that couldn't have been 730 00:45:02,050 --> 00:45:07,140 caused by Matt or his sister. 731 00:45:07,230 --> 00:45:10,880 - It would be extremely unusual for a child 732 00:45:10,970 --> 00:45:14,280 to have been essentially dropped 733 00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:18,020 no more than about 4 feet-- and probably less than that-- 734 00:45:18,110 --> 00:45:20,940 without having been propelled in some fashion 735 00:45:21,020 --> 00:45:23,500 in order to receive the injuries he has. 736 00:45:23,630 --> 00:45:27,550 A two-year-old would not have been able to add any momentum 737 00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:31,550 to his flight through the air. 738 00:45:31,690 --> 00:45:34,380 That force was tremendous. 739 00:45:34,470 --> 00:45:37,170 - Then the next question was, who'd done it? 740 00:45:37,260 --> 00:45:40,390 And there were only two people possible. 741 00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:43,650 It was Jan Barry Sandlin and Kathie Almon. 742 00:45:43,740 --> 00:45:45,440 So whodunit is usually what happens 743 00:45:45,570 --> 00:45:47,270 in most criminal trials. 744 00:45:47,350 --> 00:45:50,270 But here we had to overcome the scientific burden 745 00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:53,010 that there was a child who died from maltreatment. 746 00:45:57,320 --> 00:46:02,800 - And if we were able to perform an autopsy, 747 00:46:02,890 --> 00:46:05,150 then Dr. Burton could corroborate 748 00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:09,720 the physical findings found by the incredibly qualified 749 00:46:09,720 --> 00:46:11,590 medical team at the hospital. 750 00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:14,160 We were committed to figure out 751 00:46:14,290 --> 00:46:17,250 and to prove what happened. 752 00:46:17,340 --> 00:46:20,040 And the way we thought about it, as I remember, was, 753 00:46:20,130 --> 00:46:22,480 this was 20-some years ago. 754 00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:26,480 I don't care how old of a case it is. 755 00:46:26,570 --> 00:46:29,700 You had a four-month-old who was begging 756 00:46:29,790 --> 00:46:32,310 for someone to do justice. 757 00:46:32,310 --> 00:46:34,400 So we looked around the room, 758 00:46:34,530 --> 00:46:36,920 and it's like, this is a no-brainer. 759 00:46:37,060 --> 00:46:38,450 Let's go exhume the body. 760 00:46:53,510 --> 00:46:56,600 - No one, to their knowledge, had ever heard 761 00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:59,030 of an exhumation of a child 762 00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:01,820 that had been underground for 25 years. 763 00:47:01,950 --> 00:47:05,690 - It seemed to me that we were disturbing a sleeping baby. 764 00:47:05,780 --> 00:47:07,910 And that really bothered me. 765 00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:11,350 - For 15 years, she's carried the burden 766 00:47:11,350 --> 00:47:15,310 that she was responsible for that child's death. 767 00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:17,100 - I wasn't prepared. 768 00:47:17,180 --> 00:47:18,790 It was really hard. 769 00:47:18,790 --> 00:47:20,320 - That was gonna be a problem. 770 00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:23,140 - I don't think that I have done anything wrong. 771 00:47:23,230 --> 00:47:25,190 - She said, you just don't understand. 772 00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:26,970 When you're in love with someone that much, 773 00:47:27,060 --> 00:47:28,450 you'll do anything. 774 00:47:28,580 --> 00:47:30,410 - It is a case for the history books. 59637

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