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- In the criminal justice
system,
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the people are represented
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by two separate,
yet equally important groups:
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the police,
who investigate crime,
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and the district attorneys,
who prosecute the offenders.
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These are their stories.
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[phone buzzing]
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- You look great.
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- Are you sure?
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- I swear.
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You're perfect.
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- Okay, people.
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Places, everyone.
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- Places!
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- [sighs]
- Quiet on set!
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- And action.
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- My Best Defense.
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It literally does everything.
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Shields your skin from harmful
UV rays, hides blemishes,
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leaves you looking
and feeling flawless.
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Use it as part of your
daily skincare routine.
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It's the only protection
you'll ever need.
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- And cut!
[bell rings]
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Beautiful.
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Let's reset and do it
one more time.
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[phone buzzing]
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- There's a guy downstairs
looking for you.
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[suspenseful music]
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?
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- She's a kid.
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Can't be more than 16, 17.
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- MLI says body temp
and rigidity puts time of death
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between 7:00 and 10:00 p.m.
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- We got a name?
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- No.
No wallet, no ID, no phone.
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- Oh, boy.
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Looks like she went face first
into this dumpster, huh?
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- Yeah, she was strangled too.
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Got petechial hemorrhaging in
her eyes, marks on her neck.
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Oh.
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Necktie.
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Make sure we get that to
the lab and have that tested.
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- Clothing still intact, so
probably not a sexual assault.
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Who found the body?
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- Maintenance guy
from the flower shop nearby.
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911 call came in at 8:07 p.m.
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- You know, I noticed
they had a camera.
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Let's make sure
we get that footage, okay?
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- Mm-hmm.
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- Somebody lost
their child tonight.
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And they probably
don't even know it.
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[dramatic music]
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?
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- About an hour ago,
I was taking out the trash.
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I saw her legs.
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And then all of a sudden,
a guy bolted
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from behind the dumpster.
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- Which way did he go?
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- Up towards that corner.
- Thank you.
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- You get a good look at him?
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- Yeah, uh, white,
thin, about 5'5".
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- Hair color?
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- Blond.
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And he was wearing
a blue puffy jacket.
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- Okay.
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We're looking for a male,
5'5", thin, blond hair,
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wearing a blue jacket.
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Let's set up a perimeter north
of Christopher, south of Bank.
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Let's go.
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[tense music]
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?
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Yeah, blue puffer. Hey, kid.
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- Hey! Police!
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[tires squealing]
[horn honking]
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Kid, stop!
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NYPD!
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Hey! Stop!
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- Hey! Do not move!
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Keep your hands right there.
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Get on the van.
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?
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That's nice.
Where'd you get this?
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- I found it.
- You found it, huh? Where?
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- In the trash.
- In the trash.
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- How old are you?
- 18.
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- Try again.
- 15.
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- 15.
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He's 15.
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We recovered the murder weapon,
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and we're getting it
tested for DNA.
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- And if it's a match,
that means life in prison.
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- I didn't kill anyone, though.
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- Does this kid look
like he wears a necktie?
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- We got a witness that says
they saw him running away
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from the dead woman's body.
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He was found
with a very expensive
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piece of women's jewelry.
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Now, I'm willing
to bet that we will
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be able to prove
that that bracelet
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belongs to the dead girl.
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- Yeah.
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- I was looking for food.
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And she was already dead,
so I took the bracelet.
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- All right, and how about
her phone and her wallet?
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- That's all there was.
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I swear.
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- You living on the street?
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- His mother has
a problem with drugs.
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- How about your father?
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- I don't have one.
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[soft music]
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?
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- All right.
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We will be right back.
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- Did the kid's story
check out?
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- Got video from
the flower shop
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that was near the crime scene.
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Check this out.
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So that is our victim
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27 minutes before
the maintenance guy found her.
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But keep watching.
It gets interesting.
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Whoever the mystery man is,
he drags her
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in the direction
of the dumpster,
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where the body was found.
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And then...
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24 minutes later, there's Joey
walking towards the dumpster-
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no cameras back there.
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Then three minutes later,
he comes back out
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with the vic's bracelet.
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- He's telling the truth.
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Okay, call Social Services.
- Already did.
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- Uh, how'd you make out
at Missing Persons?
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- I cross-checked
all the new reports.
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No luck.
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- Facial rec?
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- Flower shop footage
is too grainy.
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This is the only other photo
we have of her,
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and her face is too messed up
to make a comparison.
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Poor kid.
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- The victim's DNA
is on the necktie,
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along with someone else's.
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- You run it through
the database?
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- It's not in the system, so we
can eliminate convicted felons.
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- [sighs] Anything else?
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- Well, it's likely
a Caucasian male,
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but there's no shared genetic
makeup with the victim.
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So we can eliminate
biological family members.
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- Well, that only leaves us
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with a few hundred million
suspects.
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- [chuckles] Yeah.
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Well, in the more
bad news department,
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I still haven't been
able to determine
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this victim's identity.
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- I can't believe her parents
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haven't reported
her missing yet.
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- I know.
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- Thank you.
- Yeah.
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- Vince, I need you guys to
go back and canvass the area
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around the crime scene,
see if anybody can identify
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the picture of the vic.
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- Have you seen this woman?
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- Sorry.
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- Any luck?
- None.
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- Excuse me, miss?
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Have you seen this woman?
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- Yeah, I've seen her
around the neighborhood.
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- Do you know her name?
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- I've got ten preschool kids
to keep an eye on.
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I don't really have time
to socialize.
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- How about yesterday?
You see her yesterday?
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- Yeah.
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She was with a guy,
and he was yelling at her.
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- Could you hear
what he was saying?
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- No.
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- What time was this?
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- Well, I was on my way home
from work, so around 4:30.
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- And this guy, had you
ever seen him before?
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- No, sorry.
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- Can you describe
what he looked like?
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- Uh, white, medium build,
medium height, bald.
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- How old was he?
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- Old. Like, 50?
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Oh, and he was
smoking a cigarette.
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- Can you show us
where he was standing?
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Thank you.
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[suspenseful music]
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I don't see
any cigarette butts.
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- Mm.
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- Here we go.
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It's a long shot.
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Maybe we can get some
prints off the box.
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- I'll call the lab,
see if they can rush it.
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- Yeah, if we can't
get him on murder,
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maybe we can get him
for littering.
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- Mr. Paven, NYPD.
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Need to ask you
a few questions.
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- Hey, what's up?
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- You know this woman?
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- What'd she say?
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- Nothing now.
- You got a gun on you?
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- Yeah.
- Hands on the car.
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- Oh, wait, man!
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But the gun is legal.
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All right? I'm on the job.
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- You're a limo driver.
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- Yeah, I also work
private security.
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- Yeah, well, if everything
checks out, you'll get it back.
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Come on.
- I'm not going anywhere, man.
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My client is in that building.
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- Tell him he's gotta find
another ride.
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- Is this really necessary?
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Look, whatever that
bitch said, it is a lie.
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- You've got a lot of anger
towards this young woman-
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girl-
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and she's dead.
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And we have a witness who saw
you bullying her a few hours
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before she was killed.
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Now, why were you, a grown man,
yelling at a teenage girl
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on the sidewalk?
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- Maybe I should have
a lawyer here or something.
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- That's fine by me.
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In the meantime, I'm going to
confiscate your gun.
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- Wait, look,
I need that for work.
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I've got a license for it.
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You can't just
take that from me.
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- Yes, I can.
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You're a person of interest
in a murder case.
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You're refusing to
cooperate with the police.
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As far as I'm concerned,
that makes you
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a threat to public safety.
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- H-hold on.
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Look.
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My son, all right, he follows
that girl on social media.
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She was pushing some
new sports drink.
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You know, said that
it would make him strong
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and full of energy
or some bull like that.
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I mean, this girl
made it a contest.
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How many can you
drink in a row?
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So my kid ended up downing,
like, five of them
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in less than an hour.
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And there was
so much caffeine in it
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that he ended up having
a freaking heart attack.
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I'm serious, all right?
He almost died.
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- How did you find her?
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- That girl posted,
like, everything she did,
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literally everything.
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So I knew that she was
doing a commercial.
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She even said the name
of the studio.
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So I looked it up,
went down there,
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and, you know, I had
a little talk with her.
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- Okay, where were you between
7:00 and 10:00 p.m. last night?
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- I was in Jersey
with a client.
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I can give you his
contact info if you need.
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- Yeah, I'm gonna need
the name of the young woman
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you accosted.
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[somber music]
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- Kaitlyn was so special.
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- She's beautiful,
inside and out.
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- I've gotta ask,
is there a reason
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that you didn't report
your daughter missing?
261
00:10:48,822 --> 00:10:50,910
- She didn't live here.
We didn't know.
262
00:10:50,911 --> 00:10:53,173
She doesn't live here anymore.
263
00:10:53,174 --> 00:10:55,436
- She was 17?
264
00:10:55,437 --> 00:10:56,873
- Yeah, um...
265
00:10:58,745 --> 00:11:01,790
She's a-a-
266
00:11:01,791 --> 00:11:02,922
she was a model,
267
00:11:02,923 --> 00:11:05,315
so she lived
with a group of models.
268
00:11:05,316 --> 00:11:07,361
- No school?
269
00:11:07,362 --> 00:11:09,624
- She graduated early.
270
00:11:09,625 --> 00:11:11,539
- But we're still
very much involved.
271
00:11:11,540 --> 00:11:14,412
We-we spoke to her
every night.
272
00:11:16,850 --> 00:11:18,067
Just not last night.
273
00:11:18,068 --> 00:11:22,724
We were at a premiere,
Michelle's premiere.
274
00:11:22,725 --> 00:11:27,120
She's a-she's a film director.
275
00:11:27,121 --> 00:11:29,651
- I promised my daughter
I'd take her this weekend.
276
00:11:30,907 --> 00:11:35,389
- Was Kaitlyn having
any problems with anyone?
277
00:11:35,390 --> 00:11:40,220
- She-[clears throat]
She had a boyfriend.
278
00:11:40,221 --> 00:11:41,961
He's-he's a little older.
279
00:11:41,962 --> 00:11:43,310
They were in the process
of breaking up.
280
00:11:43,311 --> 00:11:50,492
?
281
00:11:52,146 --> 00:11:54,974
- Who the hell lets their
daughter live alone at 17?
282
00:11:54,975 --> 00:11:56,236
- What do you mean?
283
00:11:56,237 --> 00:11:58,281
Kids leave for college
all the time at 18.
284
00:11:58,282 --> 00:12:00,283
Same thing.
- No, no, no.
285
00:12:00,284 --> 00:12:02,459
Big difference
between 17 and 18.
286
00:12:02,460 --> 00:12:05,898
And college is filled
with college kids, you know?
287
00:12:05,899 --> 00:12:07,508
- You gotta let them fly
at some point, bro.
288
00:12:07,509 --> 00:12:09,292
- All I know is,
when my daughter turns 17,
289
00:12:09,293 --> 00:12:11,425
she's not shacking up with some
20-year-old dude named Dylan.
290
00:12:11,426 --> 00:12:12,775
- [laughs]
291
00:12:14,385 --> 00:12:17,170
- She's dead?
292
00:12:17,171 --> 00:12:18,606
Oh.
293
00:12:18,607 --> 00:12:20,652
That's, like, surreal.
294
00:12:21,388 --> 00:12:23,437
- Yeah.
295
00:12:23,438 --> 00:12:25,091
Uh, hey, hey, Dylan.
296
00:12:25,092 --> 00:12:26,483
- Yeah?
297
00:12:26,484 --> 00:12:27,789
- Are you planning
on going somewhere?
298
00:12:27,790 --> 00:12:29,922
- I just got back from Paris.
299
00:12:29,923 --> 00:12:32,011
I was there
for a magazine shoot.
300
00:12:32,012 --> 00:12:34,665
- When's the last time
you spoke to Kaitlyn?
301
00:12:34,666 --> 00:12:37,233
- I texted her last night
at 8:00 when I landed at JFK.
302
00:12:37,234 --> 00:12:38,974
Never heard back.
303
00:12:38,975 --> 00:12:40,454
- Did that surprise you?
304
00:12:40,455 --> 00:12:42,456
- We've been fighting a lot.
305
00:12:42,457 --> 00:12:44,676
- About what?
- [sighs]
306
00:12:46,374 --> 00:12:48,201
She was cheating on me.
307
00:12:48,202 --> 00:12:49,811
- What makes you say that?
308
00:12:49,812 --> 00:12:51,595
- She'd been acting all weird,
spending a lot of time
309
00:12:51,596 --> 00:12:53,946
with other people.
310
00:12:53,947 --> 00:12:59,647
And she didn't wanna be,
you know, intimate.
311
00:12:59,648 --> 00:13:01,650
- Any idea who she was seeing?
312
00:13:03,739 --> 00:13:06,785
[suspenseful music]
313
00:13:06,786 --> 00:13:08,134
- Can you show us her room?
314
00:13:08,135 --> 00:13:15,055
?
315
00:13:16,926 --> 00:13:19,188
This her laptop?
316
00:13:19,189 --> 00:13:20,669
You know the password?
317
00:13:29,963 --> 00:13:33,812
Two hours before the murder,
she googled
318
00:13:33,813 --> 00:13:35,857
the address of Daisy's Donuts.
319
00:13:35,858 --> 00:13:37,511
- Four blocks
from the murder scene.
320
00:13:37,512 --> 00:13:38,686
- Looks like they make
a hell of a cruller,
321
00:13:38,687 --> 00:13:40,035
I'll give them that.
322
00:13:40,036 --> 00:13:42,385
Does anyone remember
seeing Kaitlyn?
323
00:13:42,386 --> 00:13:44,213
- Nope.
- Did they have cameras?
324
00:13:44,214 --> 00:13:45,867
- They weren't working.
325
00:13:45,868 --> 00:13:48,696
- Manager just emailed me
the credit card receipts.
326
00:13:48,697 --> 00:13:50,507
- Is her boyfriend's name
in there?
327
00:13:52,005 --> 00:13:54,528
- I don't see it.
328
00:13:54,529 --> 00:13:55,969
This is interesting, though.
329
00:13:59,229 --> 00:14:00,535
[knock at door]
330
00:14:01,191 --> 00:14:03,624
- Did you find something?
331
00:14:03,625 --> 00:14:04,930
Do you know who
killed my daughter?
332
00:14:04,931 --> 00:14:06,496
- We need to speak
to your husband right now.
333
00:14:06,497 --> 00:14:08,194
Is he here?
- Yes, yes. Of course.
334
00:14:08,195 --> 00:14:09,587
Come in. He's-
335
00:14:12,982 --> 00:14:14,374
- What's going on?
336
00:14:14,375 --> 00:14:16,463
Do you guys have an update?
- We do.
337
00:14:16,464 --> 00:14:18,595
We can talk about it
down at the precinct.
338
00:14:18,596 --> 00:14:20,075
- [scoffs] Now?
339
00:14:20,076 --> 00:14:21,424
- Right now.
340
00:14:21,425 --> 00:14:23,687
- It's a little late
in the day.
341
00:14:23,688 --> 00:14:25,385
Couldn't we do this
first thing in the morning?
342
00:14:25,386 --> 00:14:26,995
- No, this can't wait.
343
00:14:26,996 --> 00:14:29,737
- And we would prefer
to do it in our office.
344
00:14:29,738 --> 00:14:32,566
So we need you to come with us.
345
00:14:32,567 --> 00:14:34,437
- I don't understand.
What's the problem?
346
00:14:34,438 --> 00:14:35,874
- Am I under arrest?
347
00:14:35,875 --> 00:14:37,136
- We're giving you
an opportunity
348
00:14:37,137 --> 00:14:39,268
to come in voluntarily.
349
00:14:39,269 --> 00:14:40,269
But if not...
350
00:14:40,270 --> 00:14:41,705
- [scoffs]
351
00:14:41,706 --> 00:14:44,143
[tense music]
352
00:14:44,144 --> 00:14:45,971
I guess so.
353
00:14:45,972 --> 00:14:48,800
?
354
00:14:52,500 --> 00:14:55,197
- We've got a credit card
receipt that puts you
355
00:14:55,198 --> 00:14:57,547
in a caf� a few blocks
from the crime scene
356
00:14:57,548 --> 00:14:59,941
a half hour before Kaitlyn
was killed.
357
00:14:59,942 --> 00:15:02,422
- And Kaitlyn just happened to
google the address of that caf�
358
00:15:02,423 --> 00:15:04,206
a couple hours before
she was killed.
359
00:15:04,207 --> 00:15:05,947
- And we got surveillance video
from a flower shop
360
00:15:05,948 --> 00:15:08,645
down the block that picked you
up after you left the caf�.
361
00:15:08,646 --> 00:15:11,126
It shows a man who
looks a lot like you
362
00:15:11,127 --> 00:15:12,954
grabbing Kaitlyn by the arm
and pushing her
363
00:15:12,955 --> 00:15:14,434
in the direction
of the crime scene.
364
00:15:14,435 --> 00:15:16,697
- And you told us that
you didn't talk to Kaitlyn
365
00:15:16,698 --> 00:15:17,959
the day that she was murdered.
366
00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:20,135
Isn't that right?
- Mm-hmm, yeah. Yeah.
367
00:15:20,136 --> 00:15:22,659
You lied about your alibi,
too, didn't you?
368
00:15:22,660 --> 00:15:24,139
Said you were
at a movie premiere?
369
00:15:24,140 --> 00:15:25,793
- No, I was-
370
00:15:25,794 --> 00:15:27,664
I was at the premiere.
371
00:15:27,665 --> 00:15:28,796
Really.
372
00:15:28,797 --> 00:15:30,580
- Well, the time stamp
on the bill here
373
00:15:30,581 --> 00:15:33,105
says that you paid six minutes
after the movie started.
374
00:15:33,106 --> 00:15:34,758
So help me out here.
- Correct.
375
00:15:34,759 --> 00:15:36,978
I had coffee with my daughter,
and then I went to the movie.
376
00:15:36,979 --> 00:15:39,416
I got there late.
- Hmm.
377
00:15:46,032 --> 00:15:49,469
- Here's me and Michelle
at the theater.
378
00:15:49,470 --> 00:15:51,906
- That corroborates
my client's alibi.
379
00:15:51,907 --> 00:15:54,387
- The theater is, like, 15
minutes from the crime scene.
380
00:15:54,388 --> 00:15:56,867
He could have killed Kaitlyn
and gotten back to the theater
381
00:15:56,868 --> 00:15:58,130
before the movie was over.
382
00:15:58,131 --> 00:15:59,566
- Still, I'm confused.
383
00:15:59,567 --> 00:16:01,481
Didn't the ME tell you
the DNA on the murder weapon
384
00:16:01,482 --> 00:16:04,614
didn't come from anyone
in Kaitlyn's family?
385
00:16:04,615 --> 00:16:08,009
- The ME said that
the killer's DNA profile
386
00:16:08,010 --> 00:16:10,664
didn't share
any genetic similarities
387
00:16:10,665 --> 00:16:12,231
with the victim.
388
00:16:12,232 --> 00:16:14,102
- He's not Kaitlyn's
biological father?
389
00:16:14,103 --> 00:16:15,843
- According to
family court records,
390
00:16:15,844 --> 00:16:19,673
Ron adopted Kaitlyn
after he married Michelle
391
00:16:19,674 --> 00:16:21,892
about ten years ago.
392
00:16:21,893 --> 00:16:24,504
- Can I go home now?
393
00:16:24,505 --> 00:16:26,027
- No.
394
00:16:26,028 --> 00:16:27,550
We have a few more questions.
395
00:16:27,551 --> 00:16:29,683
- Hold him while you get
a warrant for his DNA.
396
00:16:29,684 --> 00:16:32,214
If it matches the necktie,
charge him with murder.
397
00:16:40,608 --> 00:16:43,044
- Calling docket
ending in 5912,
398
00:16:43,045 --> 00:16:45,090
People v. Ronald Lawson,
399
00:16:45,091 --> 00:16:48,093
charging murder
in the second degree.
400
00:16:48,094 --> 00:16:49,181
- How do you plead, sir?
401
00:16:49,182 --> 00:16:51,052
- My client pleads not guilty.
402
00:16:51,053 --> 00:16:52,793
- I'll hear the People on bail.
403
00:16:52,794 --> 00:16:55,578
- The victim in this case
is the defendant's daughter.
404
00:16:55,579 --> 00:16:57,537
The evidence shows
that Mr. Lawson
405
00:16:57,538 --> 00:17:01,541
pushed her into a dumpster,
causing a severe head wound.
406
00:17:01,542 --> 00:17:03,934
Then, as she lay bleeding
on the pavement,
407
00:17:03,935 --> 00:17:06,241
he strangled her
with his necktie.
408
00:17:06,242 --> 00:17:09,288
We have video
and credit card statement
409
00:17:09,289 --> 00:17:11,072
putting him
near the crime scene.
410
00:17:11,073 --> 00:17:13,161
His DNA is on the weapon.
411
00:17:13,162 --> 00:17:15,729
We'd submit that he's a danger
to the community
412
00:17:15,730 --> 00:17:18,079
and a flight risk.
People request remand.
413
00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:20,734
- The only thing worse than
losing your child, Your Honor,
414
00:17:20,735 --> 00:17:22,779
is losing your child
and then being falsely
415
00:17:22,780 --> 00:17:24,303
accused of killing her.
416
00:17:24,304 --> 00:17:27,828
The People have no case,
no motive, no eyewitnesses.
417
00:17:27,829 --> 00:17:30,961
My client is a respected
member of his community.
418
00:17:30,962 --> 00:17:33,268
My client's wife,
Michelle Burns,
419
00:17:33,269 --> 00:17:34,878
who is also
the victim's mother,
420
00:17:34,879 --> 00:17:37,881
has signed an affidavit
affirming that
421
00:17:37,882 --> 00:17:40,536
they were at a movie premiere
at the time of the murder.
422
00:17:40,537 --> 00:17:41,929
- It was a three-hour film.
423
00:17:41,930 --> 00:17:44,497
He had more than enough time
to kill his daughter
424
00:17:44,498 --> 00:17:46,238
and saunter back
into the theater
425
00:17:46,239 --> 00:17:48,284
to enjoy his wife's movie.
426
00:17:50,634 --> 00:17:52,810
- The bail is set
at 20 million.
427
00:17:55,770 --> 00:17:57,031
- Don't worry, I got you.
428
00:17:57,032 --> 00:17:58,207
Okay?
429
00:18:04,474 --> 00:18:07,172
- The victim's mother
posted bail for the killer?
430
00:18:07,173 --> 00:18:08,825
- It was a first
for me as well.
431
00:18:08,826 --> 00:18:12,264
She also doubled down on her
husband's so-called alibi.
432
00:18:12,265 --> 00:18:14,570
- She obviously believes
in Lawson's innocence.
433
00:18:14,571 --> 00:18:16,050
Are we sure we got
the right guy?
434
00:18:16,051 --> 00:18:17,791
- Yeah, evidence is strong.
435
00:18:17,792 --> 00:18:19,097
- What about motive?
436
00:18:19,098 --> 00:18:20,620
Why would Lawson
kill his own child?
437
00:18:20,621 --> 00:18:23,318
- That is the one
missing piece.
438
00:18:23,319 --> 00:18:25,407
- Have we done a deep dive
into their texts, emails?
439
00:18:25,408 --> 00:18:27,714
- Well, I just finished,
actually,
440
00:18:27,715 --> 00:18:29,542
and, uh, I think
we have the answer.
441
00:18:29,543 --> 00:18:31,848
Kaitlyn made a video,
was supposed to go live
442
00:18:31,849 --> 00:18:33,763
the day she was killed.
443
00:18:33,764 --> 00:18:35,025
It's horrific.
444
00:18:35,026 --> 00:18:39,029
[suspenseful music]
445
00:18:39,030 --> 00:18:43,425
- My father, Ron Lawson...
446
00:18:43,426 --> 00:18:45,819
sexually abused me.
447
00:18:45,820 --> 00:18:50,824
It started when I was 14,
and he's still doing it.
448
00:18:50,825 --> 00:18:53,479
I know it sounds weird,
but, uh,
449
00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:56,960
at first, it made me
feel special.
450
00:18:56,961 --> 00:19:00,312
I actually thought
I was in love with him.
451
00:19:00,313 --> 00:19:03,489
But recently, I-
I started to realize
452
00:19:03,490 --> 00:19:09,321
how horrible and abusive
it actually is.
453
00:19:09,322 --> 00:19:10,975
So...
454
00:19:13,456 --> 00:19:16,197
I told him to stop.
455
00:19:16,198 --> 00:19:19,026
He wouldn't.
456
00:19:19,027 --> 00:19:22,334
So, um, I told my mother.
457
00:19:22,335 --> 00:19:26,774
But she wasn't-
she wasn't able to help.
458
00:19:28,906 --> 00:19:34,215
That's why
I'm making this video,
459
00:19:34,216 --> 00:19:37,566
to tell the world my truth.
460
00:19:37,567 --> 00:19:39,742
- The defendant
killed Kaitlyn Lawson
461
00:19:39,743 --> 00:19:41,527
because he was afraid
of exposure.
462
00:19:41,528 --> 00:19:43,790
He didn't want the world
to know
463
00:19:43,791 --> 00:19:48,403
his disgusting,
perverted secret.
464
00:19:48,404 --> 00:19:52,146
The evidence will show that
he invited her to a caf�,
465
00:19:52,147 --> 00:19:54,540
where he tried to talk her out
of posting the video.
466
00:19:54,541 --> 00:19:57,673
When she refused,
he grabbed her by the arm
467
00:19:57,674 --> 00:19:59,719
and dragged her
behind a flower shop.
468
00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:03,070
He shoved her face-first
into a dumpster,
469
00:20:03,071 --> 00:20:08,945
and then he used his necktie to
strangle the life out of her.
470
00:20:08,946 --> 00:20:13,559
Ron Lawson thought
by killing Kaitlyn,
471
00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:16,824
his secret would be safe,
but...
472
00:20:19,043 --> 00:20:23,351
But now we all know
what Kaitlyn knew.
473
00:20:23,352 --> 00:20:25,571
The defendant is a pedophile.
474
00:20:25,572 --> 00:20:28,530
He is also a killer.
475
00:20:28,531 --> 00:20:33,753
And he must answer to that.
476
00:20:33,754 --> 00:20:36,016
- We're going to take
a brief recess.
477
00:20:36,017 --> 00:20:38,148
I'll see you all back here
in 20 minutes.
478
00:20:38,149 --> 00:20:40,020
[gavel bangs]
479
00:20:40,021 --> 00:20:42,979
[indistinct chatter]
480
00:20:42,980 --> 00:20:48,158
?
481
00:20:48,159 --> 00:20:49,159
- [grunts]
482
00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:50,900
[screaming]
483
00:20:50,901 --> 00:20:53,251
Get back! Get back!
484
00:20:53,252 --> 00:20:54,295
Stay-
485
00:20:54,296 --> 00:20:55,340
- No, no, no, no!
486
00:20:55,341 --> 00:20:57,211
- Back!
487
00:20:57,212 --> 00:20:59,039
- Hey. Ron, put the gun down!
488
00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:01,171
Put it down!
489
00:21:01,172 --> 00:21:03,783
Do not do anything stupid.
490
00:21:03,784 --> 00:21:05,394
Put it down.
491
00:21:08,789 --> 00:21:10,268
No, no, no!
[gunshot]
492
00:21:10,269 --> 00:21:11,443
[screams]
493
00:21:11,444 --> 00:21:18,625
?
494
00:21:24,413 --> 00:21:26,109
- That was...
- Yeah.
495
00:21:26,110 --> 00:21:27,589
I don't even know
how to process it.
496
00:21:27,590 --> 00:21:28,982
- Everybody okay?
497
00:21:28,983 --> 00:21:32,159
- I'm just glad
no one else was hurt.
498
00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:35,294
[camera shutters clicking]
499
00:21:36,730 --> 00:21:39,688
- Where do we go from here?
500
00:21:39,689 --> 00:21:41,211
I presume you're
gonna file a motion
501
00:21:41,212 --> 00:21:42,561
to dismiss the charges?
502
00:21:42,562 --> 00:21:43,997
- Yeah, we'll have to.
503
00:21:43,998 --> 00:21:46,391
- Well, bastard got off easy,
if you ask me.
504
00:21:46,392 --> 00:21:48,131
Now nobody gets
held accountable.
505
00:21:48,132 --> 00:21:52,092
- Maybe we should
look into the mother.
506
00:21:52,093 --> 00:21:54,007
- Well, unfortunately,
posting bail
507
00:21:54,008 --> 00:21:55,661
for your abusive husband
isn't a crime.
508
00:21:55,662 --> 00:21:57,140
- She didn't just post bail.
509
00:21:57,141 --> 00:21:59,055
She was aware that
her daughter was being abused,
510
00:21:59,056 --> 00:22:00,187
and she did nothing
to protect her.
511
00:22:00,188 --> 00:22:01,797
She just let it happen.
512
00:22:01,798 --> 00:22:04,322
- Hard to imagine.
513
00:22:04,323 --> 00:22:06,411
Is there a reason she
just looked the other way?
514
00:22:06,412 --> 00:22:08,151
- Oh, no idea.
515
00:22:08,152 --> 00:22:09,892
Makes no sense to me.
516
00:22:09,893 --> 00:22:13,069
Her movies are all
about female empowerment
517
00:22:13,070 --> 00:22:14,636
and gender equality.
518
00:22:14,637 --> 00:22:15,855
- So what do you wanna do?
519
00:22:15,856 --> 00:22:17,639
- I wanna charge her
with endangering
520
00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:19,119
the welfare of a child.
521
00:22:19,120 --> 00:22:21,121
- Can we prove Michelle
had knowledge of the abuse?
522
00:22:21,122 --> 00:22:22,731
- We have Kaitlyn's video.
523
00:22:22,732 --> 00:22:24,994
- Maybe.
524
00:22:24,995 --> 00:22:26,387
If we offer it for the truth,
525
00:22:26,388 --> 00:22:29,477
it'll likely be excluded
as hearsay.
526
00:22:29,478 --> 00:22:31,045
But I'm with you, Nolan.
527
00:22:32,525 --> 00:22:35,004
Michelle Burns had a duty
to protect her child,
528
00:22:35,005 --> 00:22:37,225
and she didn't,
and now the girl's dead, so.
529
00:22:39,532 --> 00:22:40,967
Talk to Brady.
530
00:22:40,968 --> 00:22:42,882
Maybe she can figure out a way
to get Michelle to admit
531
00:22:42,883 --> 00:22:44,144
she knew what was going on
532
00:22:44,145 --> 00:22:45,835
between her husband
and Kaitlyn.
533
00:22:48,410 --> 00:22:49,845
[elevator dings]
534
00:22:49,846 --> 00:22:51,020
- Michelle.
- Oh.
535
00:22:51,021 --> 00:22:52,413
- Hi.
- Hi.
536
00:22:52,414 --> 00:22:54,241
- Thanks so much for coming in.
537
00:22:54,242 --> 00:22:56,852
Do you want a coffee
or water or something?
538
00:22:56,853 --> 00:22:59,072
- No. No, thank you.
539
00:22:59,073 --> 00:23:02,467
- Well, I can't imagine
what you're going through.
540
00:23:02,468 --> 00:23:04,686
- Yeah, it's, uh-
541
00:23:04,687 --> 00:23:07,515
it's been a long few days.
542
00:23:07,516 --> 00:23:09,125
- I'm really very sorry,
but I won't
543
00:23:09,126 --> 00:23:10,518
take up much of your time.
544
00:23:10,519 --> 00:23:13,566
I just-I just need to
tie up a few loose ends.
545
00:23:16,569 --> 00:23:17,619
Have a seat.
546
00:23:21,965 --> 00:23:25,533
Some of Kaitlyn's
personal effects.
547
00:23:25,534 --> 00:23:30,059
I thought they might be
of some sentimental value.
548
00:23:30,060 --> 00:23:33,280
You can take them if you want.
549
00:23:33,281 --> 00:23:35,152
I just need you
to sign that form.
550
00:23:41,463 --> 00:23:43,944
I have a lot of respect
for your work.
551
00:23:45,467 --> 00:23:48,426
I think your movies
are very powerful,
552
00:23:48,427 --> 00:23:50,863
and they remind me
of Alice Munro.
553
00:23:50,864 --> 00:23:55,258
I know she's a novelist,
but, um...
554
00:23:55,259 --> 00:23:57,436
- I really admire
her work as well.
555
00:24:00,308 --> 00:24:03,658
- Yeah, you two have
a lot in common.
556
00:24:03,659 --> 00:24:07,009
I mean, you're both feminists
that wanted to raise
557
00:24:07,010 --> 00:24:10,230
strong, opinionated daughters,
and-
558
00:24:10,231 --> 00:24:12,188
- And both stayed with men
559
00:24:12,189 --> 00:24:14,453
even after we knew
about their failings?
560
00:24:16,411 --> 00:24:19,326
- Well, yeah, that's what
I was gonna say.
561
00:24:19,327 --> 00:24:20,589
- I know.
562
00:24:21,135 --> 00:24:25,332
- I'm not here to judge,
Michelle, really.
563
00:24:25,333 --> 00:24:29,292
Honestly, I'm just trying
to tie up some loose ends.
564
00:24:29,293 --> 00:24:31,730
But now that you mention it,
actually, I'm-
565
00:24:31,731 --> 00:24:33,472
I must say, I'm curious.
566
00:24:36,083 --> 00:24:37,345
- About what?
567
00:24:38,825 --> 00:24:43,176
- Well, you're a brilliant
and talented woman,
568
00:24:43,177 --> 00:24:45,961
a powerful woman.
569
00:24:45,962 --> 00:24:49,487
I-I-I just don't
see how you could
570
00:24:49,488 --> 00:24:52,273
sit there and let that happen.
571
00:24:54,536 --> 00:24:58,452
- I suppose I felt
the same way Alice did.
572
00:24:58,453 --> 00:24:59,975
You know, I love them both
very much,
573
00:24:59,976 --> 00:25:04,153
and I suppose I decided
that it was their business,
574
00:25:04,154 --> 00:25:06,982
and it wasn't my place
to get involved.
575
00:25:06,983 --> 00:25:09,245
[tense music]
576
00:25:09,246 --> 00:25:10,682
- Not your place?
577
00:25:10,683 --> 00:25:14,599
- Well, I know
on some level, yes.
578
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,384
I mean, if you eliminate
patriarchal norms
579
00:25:17,385 --> 00:25:20,953
and expectations, why should I
be expected to dismiss
580
00:25:20,954 --> 00:25:24,043
my own wants and desires,
581
00:25:24,044 --> 00:25:26,001
or even worse,
dismiss those wants
582
00:25:26,002 --> 00:25:28,265
and desires for my child?
583
00:25:30,398 --> 00:25:33,661
- So you knew about
the video Kaitlyn made?
584
00:25:33,662 --> 00:25:36,185
- Yes.
585
00:25:36,186 --> 00:25:38,927
- And what about your husband?
Did he know?
586
00:25:38,928 --> 00:25:41,016
- Yes, I-I told him.
587
00:25:41,017 --> 00:25:48,242
?
588
00:25:50,461 --> 00:25:51,511
- Well.
589
00:25:53,769 --> 00:25:57,556
Michelle, I have to tell you,
you make me sick.
590
00:25:59,427 --> 00:26:01,124
- What?
- Get up.
591
00:26:01,125 --> 00:26:04,474
- What the hell are you doing?
- Stand up.
592
00:26:04,475 --> 00:26:06,868
Put your hands
behind your back.
593
00:26:06,869 --> 00:26:08,000
- [gasps]
594
00:26:08,001 --> 00:26:09,437
- You're under arrest.
595
00:26:12,483 --> 00:26:14,572
- She told her husband
about the video?
596
00:26:14,573 --> 00:26:16,008
That Kaitlyn was
planning to expose her?
597
00:26:16,009 --> 00:26:17,531
- Sure did.
598
00:26:17,532 --> 00:26:19,272
She might as well have
handed him a loaded gun.
599
00:26:19,273 --> 00:26:22,928
- Ask me, this is
more than child endangerment.
600
00:26:22,929 --> 00:26:25,060
- You want me to charge her
with manslaughter?
601
00:26:25,061 --> 00:26:26,409
- Man two.
602
00:26:26,410 --> 00:26:28,673
Michelle Burns had a duty
to protect her child,
603
00:26:28,674 --> 00:26:31,153
and her reckless actions
and inactions
604
00:26:31,154 --> 00:26:33,504
directly led
to her daughter's death.
605
00:26:37,683 --> 00:26:39,945
- Sam.
606
00:26:39,946 --> 00:26:41,642
- Hi.
- Hey, how are you?
607
00:26:41,643 --> 00:26:43,470
- I'm good.
608
00:26:43,471 --> 00:26:45,341
You represent Michelle Burns?
609
00:26:45,342 --> 00:26:47,300
- [sighs]
I wish I wasn't.
610
00:26:47,301 --> 00:26:49,911
I can't believe you're
actually prosecuting her.
611
00:26:49,912 --> 00:26:51,130
She's a victim.
612
00:26:51,131 --> 00:26:52,653
Her daughter was murdered.
613
00:26:52,654 --> 00:26:54,263
- Yeah, I get it.
614
00:26:54,264 --> 00:26:57,919
But she had a duty, a legal
duty to protect her daughter.
615
00:26:57,920 --> 00:26:59,791
She didn't. So.
616
00:26:59,792 --> 00:27:01,531
- Well, you may be right,
617
00:27:01,532 --> 00:27:04,056
but it's more complicated
than that.
618
00:27:04,057 --> 00:27:06,058
- What are you talking about?
619
00:27:06,059 --> 00:27:09,628
- Kaitlyn wasn't the only woman
Ron Lawson abused.
620
00:27:14,296 --> 00:27:19,114
I'm requesting the court's
permission to allow
621
00:27:19,115 --> 00:27:20,899
an expert witness at trial-
622
00:27:20,900 --> 00:27:24,163
a psychologist who can testify
to my client's state of mind
623
00:27:24,164 --> 00:27:27,122
as a victim of physical
and sexual abuse.
624
00:27:27,123 --> 00:27:29,124
- How is that relevant
to this case?
625
00:27:29,125 --> 00:27:30,473
- Mr. Price has a point.
626
00:27:30,474 --> 00:27:31,997
What does
a psychologist's opinion
627
00:27:31,998 --> 00:27:33,563
have to do with this matter?
628
00:27:33,564 --> 00:27:35,914
- Well, the People are required
to prove that my client
629
00:27:35,915 --> 00:27:37,698
ignored an unjustifiable risk
630
00:27:37,699 --> 00:27:39,613
that someone's death
would occur.
631
00:27:39,614 --> 00:27:43,051
I'd like to tell the jury
why she failed to act.
632
00:27:43,052 --> 00:27:44,662
Context is important.
633
00:27:44,663 --> 00:27:46,664
It cuts to the very core
of our defense.
634
00:27:46,665 --> 00:27:50,058
- The defendant's reasons
have no legal significance.
635
00:27:50,059 --> 00:27:51,320
This is just a veiled attempt
636
00:27:51,321 --> 00:27:53,323
to elicit sympathy
from the jury.
637
00:27:54,847 --> 00:27:57,326
- I'll allow counsel
to conduct a voir dire
638
00:27:57,327 --> 00:27:59,067
outside of the presence
of the jury
639
00:27:59,068 --> 00:28:01,113
to see what this witness
has to say.
640
00:28:01,114 --> 00:28:03,246
I'll issue my decision
afterwards.
641
00:28:06,859 --> 00:28:11,036
- Dr. Mankin, did you conduct
a forensic evaluation
642
00:28:11,037 --> 00:28:13,255
of the defendant?
- I did.
643
00:28:13,256 --> 00:28:15,344
She reported that
she was in a physically
644
00:28:15,345 --> 00:28:17,129
and emotionally abusive
marriage.
645
00:28:17,130 --> 00:28:20,698
- Did she describe specific
instances of violence?
646
00:28:20,699 --> 00:28:24,614
- A fractured eye socket,
a broken ankle, a concussion,
647
00:28:24,615 --> 00:28:28,270
and numerous bruises and cuts.
648
00:28:28,271 --> 00:28:30,708
- Did she tell you
about her childhood?
649
00:28:30,709 --> 00:28:33,275
- Do I have to sit here
and listen to this?
650
00:28:33,276 --> 00:28:35,103
- Your lawyer asked
for this hearing.
651
00:28:35,104 --> 00:28:36,715
Please control your client.
652
00:28:40,283 --> 00:28:43,111
Please answer the question.
653
00:28:43,112 --> 00:28:44,852
- When she was nine years old,
654
00:28:44,853 --> 00:28:46,985
Michelle was the victim
of sexual abuse
655
00:28:46,986 --> 00:28:48,856
at the hands of an uncle.
656
00:28:48,857 --> 00:28:50,031
- Did that surprise you?
657
00:28:50,032 --> 00:28:51,293
- No.
658
00:28:51,294 --> 00:28:52,599
Children who are raised
in abusive homes
659
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,167
are six times more
likely to find themselves
660
00:28:55,168 --> 00:28:57,735
in abusive relationships
as adults.
661
00:28:57,736 --> 00:28:58,953
- Why is that?
662
00:28:58,954 --> 00:29:00,738
- For women like Michelle,
663
00:29:00,739 --> 00:29:04,481
abuse becomes
their definition of love.
664
00:29:04,738 --> 00:29:06,787
- Thank you.
665
00:29:06,788 --> 00:29:08,747
Nothing further.
666
00:29:10,313 --> 00:29:12,401
- Cross-examination?
667
00:29:12,402 --> 00:29:14,752
- Did the defendant ever
report any of this abuse?
668
00:29:14,753 --> 00:29:16,797
- When she was a child,
she told her parents,
669
00:29:16,798 --> 00:29:19,800
but they didn't believe her,
and that was shattering.
670
00:29:19,801 --> 00:29:22,411
It reinforced her sense
of powerlessness.
671
00:29:22,412 --> 00:29:25,763
- While the defendant
may have been suffering,
672
00:29:25,764 --> 00:29:28,287
wasn't she still capable
of protecting her daughter?
673
00:29:28,288 --> 00:29:31,943
- I believe Michelle suffers
from dissociative disorder.
674
00:29:31,944 --> 00:29:34,467
Her survival depends
on her ability
675
00:29:34,468 --> 00:29:36,904
to disengage emotionally.
676
00:29:36,905 --> 00:29:40,473
As a result, she lost her
ability to recognize danger,
677
00:29:40,474 --> 00:29:43,650
along with her maternal
instincts of protection.
678
00:29:43,651 --> 00:29:46,131
- You're not saying
she's legally insane, are you?
679
00:29:46,132 --> 00:29:48,089
- No, I'm not saying that.
680
00:29:48,090 --> 00:29:49,961
- Thank you. Nothing further.
681
00:29:49,962 --> 00:29:51,919
- You are excused.
682
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:55,488
[suspenseful music]
683
00:29:55,489 --> 00:30:00,449
- While what Ms. Burns
is alleging is tragic,
684
00:30:00,450 --> 00:30:04,018
it is clearly not relevant
to this case.
685
00:30:04,019 --> 00:30:05,890
And as such, the law requires
686
00:30:05,891 --> 00:30:08,806
that you deny
the defendant's motion.
687
00:30:08,807 --> 00:30:11,634
- Respectfully,
the defense has the right
688
00:30:11,635 --> 00:30:13,767
to present a full
and complete picture
689
00:30:13,768 --> 00:30:16,117
of what happened-
more specifically,
690
00:30:16,118 --> 00:30:17,772
why this happened.
691
00:30:20,122 --> 00:30:23,255
- I agree with Mr. Price.
692
00:30:23,256 --> 00:30:26,301
- But Your Honor, as a woman,
how can you possibly-
693
00:30:26,302 --> 00:30:27,607
- Don't go there, Counsel.
694
00:30:27,608 --> 00:30:29,827
My decision is
based on the law.
695
00:30:29,828 --> 00:30:32,699
And I find that
the defendant's state of mind
696
00:30:32,700 --> 00:30:35,702
has no legal significance
in this case.
697
00:30:35,703 --> 00:30:38,661
Therefore, the defendant's
motion is denied.
698
00:30:38,662 --> 00:30:42,970
Dr. Mankin will not be
allowed in this trial.
699
00:30:42,971 --> 00:30:44,363
We're adjourned.
700
00:30:44,364 --> 00:30:45,973
I'll see you all here
tomorrow morning.
701
00:30:45,974 --> 00:30:52,327
?
702
00:30:52,328 --> 00:30:53,894
- I'm not sure about this.
703
00:30:53,895 --> 00:30:55,504
- Sure about what?
704
00:30:55,505 --> 00:30:59,508
- Leaving this evidence out
or even prosecuting Michelle.
705
00:30:59,509 --> 00:31:01,946
She's a victim, Nolan.
706
00:31:01,947 --> 00:31:05,864
?
707
00:31:09,650 --> 00:31:10,998
- Hey.
708
00:31:10,999 --> 00:31:13,087
I've subpoenaed Michelle's
medical records.
709
00:31:13,088 --> 00:31:15,350
They corroborate
the psychologist's testimony.
710
00:31:15,351 --> 00:31:17,483
In the last ten years,
Michelle was treated
711
00:31:17,484 --> 00:31:19,746
for a broken ankle,
fractured eye socket,
712
00:31:19,747 --> 00:31:21,313
and a concussion.
713
00:31:21,314 --> 00:31:23,358
I also found a police report
from Westport, Connecticut,
714
00:31:23,359 --> 00:31:26,187
where Michelle and Ron
used to live.
715
00:31:26,188 --> 00:31:29,190
Shows she called 911
to report domestic violence.
716
00:31:29,191 --> 00:31:31,105
- Withdrew her complaint
a week later.
717
00:31:31,106 --> 00:31:33,934
- Well, there was also
a report from Cleveland,
718
00:31:33,935 --> 00:31:35,283
where Michelle grew up.
719
00:31:35,284 --> 00:31:37,503
Teacher suspected there
was abuse in the home.
720
00:31:37,504 --> 00:31:40,027
- I don't dispute that
the abuse happened
721
00:31:40,028 --> 00:31:42,944
and that it's horrific.
722
00:31:45,512 --> 00:31:47,121
- Jesus.
723
00:31:47,122 --> 00:31:49,950
It also certainly explains why
Michelle would stay with a man
724
00:31:49,951 --> 00:31:51,517
who was abusing her daughter.
725
00:31:51,518 --> 00:31:53,171
- Yeah.
726
00:31:53,172 --> 00:31:55,390
- But the fact remains,
Michelle Burns
727
00:31:55,391 --> 00:31:57,653
had an obligation
to protect her kid,
728
00:31:57,654 --> 00:31:59,307
and she did the exact opposite.
729
00:31:59,308 --> 00:32:02,049
- She wasn't capable
of helping.
730
00:32:02,050 --> 00:32:04,095
She was fighting
for her own survival.
731
00:32:04,096 --> 00:32:05,444
- You're right about that,
732
00:32:05,445 --> 00:32:09,013
but she let her husband
abuse Kaitlyn for years.
733
00:32:09,014 --> 00:32:10,971
And if that weren't enough,
she told
734
00:32:10,972 --> 00:32:12,973
a violent, sexually
abusive man that
735
00:32:12,974 --> 00:32:14,627
he was about to be exposed
as a pedophile,
736
00:32:14,628 --> 00:32:17,456
which directly led
to her child's death.
737
00:32:17,457 --> 00:32:21,547
She was more a perpetrator than
victim in this instance anyway.
738
00:32:21,548 --> 00:32:24,550
- What kind of precedent
would it be setting
739
00:32:24,551 --> 00:32:26,508
if we gave her a pass?
740
00:32:26,509 --> 00:32:28,989
Society demands that people
in positions of power
741
00:32:28,990 --> 00:32:30,512
protect those who have none.
742
00:32:30,513 --> 00:32:31,992
Parents are the ones
who hold that power.
743
00:32:31,993 --> 00:32:33,689
- Yeah, I agree.
744
00:32:33,690 --> 00:32:35,822
But it doesn't mean that
we don't have an obligation
745
00:32:35,823 --> 00:32:37,389
to protect Michelle too.
746
00:32:37,390 --> 00:32:40,174
- She's an adult.
Kaitlyn was a kid, a teenager.
747
00:32:40,175 --> 00:32:42,437
In case of a tie,
Michelle loses.
748
00:32:42,438 --> 00:32:44,744
Sorry.
749
00:32:44,745 --> 00:32:46,528
Move forward with the trial.
750
00:32:46,529 --> 00:32:49,705
[tense music]
751
00:32:49,706 --> 00:32:56,712
?
752
00:32:56,713 --> 00:32:59,324
- Lieutenant Brady, did you
speak with the defendant?
753
00:32:59,325 --> 00:33:01,195
- I did.
754
00:33:01,196 --> 00:33:05,156
And she told me she was aware
that her husband had been
755
00:33:05,157 --> 00:33:07,245
sexually abusing her daughter
and that the abuse
756
00:33:07,246 --> 00:33:08,768
had gone on for several years.
757
00:33:08,769 --> 00:33:11,858
- And did the defendant
tell her husband that Kaitlyn
758
00:33:11,859 --> 00:33:14,382
was going to expose him?
- She did.
759
00:33:14,383 --> 00:33:17,342
And less than 24 hours later,
Kaitlyn was dead.
760
00:33:17,343 --> 00:33:19,953
- Thank you. Nothing further.
761
00:33:19,954 --> 00:33:21,434
- Cross-examination?
762
00:33:24,393 --> 00:33:27,569
- My client didn't kill anyone.
763
00:33:27,570 --> 00:33:28,657
Fair to say?
764
00:33:28,658 --> 00:33:31,008
- Fair to say.
765
00:33:31,009 --> 00:33:33,227
- In fact, my client
wasn't present
766
00:33:33,228 --> 00:33:34,620
when Kaitlyn died, was she?
767
00:33:34,621 --> 00:33:36,187
- Objection, relevance?
768
00:33:36,188 --> 00:33:38,364
- Overruled. You may answer.
769
00:33:40,975 --> 00:33:42,628
- I don't believe she was, no.
770
00:33:42,629 --> 00:33:45,587
- The person who actually
did kill Kaitlyn,
771
00:33:45,588 --> 00:33:47,111
Ron Lawson, shot himself.
772
00:33:47,112 --> 00:33:49,417
So he's gone.
773
00:33:49,418 --> 00:33:52,638
And now you and Mr. Price are
trying to compound this tragedy
774
00:33:52,639 --> 00:33:54,205
by blaming it on his wife.
775
00:33:54,206 --> 00:33:55,510
- Objection, argumentative.
776
00:33:55,511 --> 00:33:57,599
- Withdrawn.
777
00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:58,650
Nothing further.
778
00:34:04,172 --> 00:34:06,652
- I love my daughter
very much.
779
00:34:06,653 --> 00:34:07,957
[sniffles]
780
00:34:07,958 --> 00:34:11,092
More than I can even-
781
00:34:13,486 --> 00:34:17,271
[crying]
782
00:34:17,272 --> 00:34:23,148
And I tried very hard
to protect her.
783
00:34:25,324 --> 00:34:28,108
I know it wasn't enough,
but I tried.
784
00:34:28,109 --> 00:34:31,894
- Tell the jury
what you mean by that.
785
00:34:31,895 --> 00:34:38,075
- I taught Kaitlyn to be
a strong, independent woman.
786
00:34:38,076 --> 00:34:41,382
I took her
to self-defense classes.
787
00:34:41,383 --> 00:34:45,038
I-I helped her become
financially independent.
788
00:34:45,039 --> 00:34:49,261
I-I talked to her about
her sex, about her body.
789
00:34:51,437 --> 00:34:55,875
[sniffles] And when I
became aware of what
790
00:34:55,876 --> 00:35:02,403
was going on with Ron, I-
791
00:35:02,404 --> 00:35:07,756
I encouraged her to move out of
the house as soon as possible.
792
00:35:07,757 --> 00:35:09,715
- But you were having
your own problems.
793
00:35:09,716 --> 00:35:10,933
- Objection.
794
00:35:10,934 --> 00:35:12,109
- Sustained.
795
00:35:12,110 --> 00:35:15,242
We've been
through this, Ms. Hogan.
796
00:35:15,243 --> 00:35:17,636
- Your witness.
797
00:35:17,637 --> 00:35:20,029
- Cross-examination?
798
00:35:20,030 --> 00:35:22,075
- After your husband
was arrested
799
00:35:22,076 --> 00:35:24,208
for killing your daughter,
800
00:35:24,209 --> 00:35:26,166
you posted his bail,
didn't you?
801
00:35:26,167 --> 00:35:29,169
?
802
00:35:29,170 --> 00:35:31,693
- Yes.
- He was in custody.
803
00:35:31,694 --> 00:35:34,480
He was behind bars.
And you helped him get out?
804
00:35:36,873 --> 00:35:38,352
- I did.
805
00:35:38,353 --> 00:35:43,705
- You also helped him
create a false alibi?
806
00:35:43,706 --> 00:35:45,403
- Yes.
807
00:35:45,404 --> 00:35:50,799
I know that this won't make
any sense, but I was afraid.
808
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:52,366
And so I did what he said
809
00:35:52,367 --> 00:35:53,759
because that's the way
it's always been.
810
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:55,935
Because if I disappointed him,
he became violent!
811
00:35:55,936 --> 00:35:58,459
- Your Honor.
- Next question.
812
00:35:58,460 --> 00:36:02,594
- You have made several very
successful films, haven't you?
813
00:36:02,595 --> 00:36:03,856
- I suppose.
814
00:36:03,857 --> 00:36:06,206
- One of your movies
is about a young woman
815
00:36:06,207 --> 00:36:08,208
who was abused
by a family member.
816
00:36:08,209 --> 00:36:10,036
- Objection, relevance.
817
00:36:10,037 --> 00:36:11,211
- Overruled.
818
00:36:11,212 --> 00:36:12,605
Please answer.
819
00:36:14,955 --> 00:36:17,304
- It was an exploration
820
00:36:17,305 --> 00:36:19,741
in a complicated
family relationship.
821
00:36:19,742 --> 00:36:23,441
- In that movie, the daughter
is hurt so badly,
822
00:36:23,442 --> 00:36:25,138
she dies, doesn't she?
823
00:36:25,139 --> 00:36:27,358
- Objection.
Where is he going with this?
824
00:36:27,359 --> 00:36:29,664
- The People are required
to prove that the defendant
825
00:36:29,665 --> 00:36:32,276
consciously disregarded a
substantial risk to her child,
826
00:36:32,277 --> 00:36:34,016
knowing that death
could result.
827
00:36:34,017 --> 00:36:36,454
I'm simply trying to establish
that the defendant was aware
828
00:36:36,455 --> 00:36:38,934
of the risk involved in not
reporting her husband's abuse
829
00:36:38,935 --> 00:36:41,372
because she made
a film about it.
830
00:36:41,373 --> 00:36:43,112
- The objection is overruled.
831
00:36:43,113 --> 00:36:44,679
Please answer.
832
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:50,207
?
833
00:36:50,208 --> 00:36:52,818
- In the film,
the daughter dies.
834
00:36:52,819 --> 00:36:57,083
- In your home, your husband's
abuse of your daughter
835
00:36:57,084 --> 00:37:00,304
went on for years, didn't it?
836
00:37:00,305 --> 00:37:01,783
- Unfortunately.
837
00:37:01,784 --> 00:37:03,611
- And you told your husband
that Kaitlyn
838
00:37:03,612 --> 00:37:05,483
was going to expose him,
didn't you?
839
00:37:05,484 --> 00:37:06,701
- Yes.
840
00:37:06,702 --> 00:37:09,704
- And 24 hours later,
she was dead.
841
00:37:09,705 --> 00:37:13,230
Did I get that right?
- I-
842
00:37:13,231 --> 00:37:15,233
I made a mistake.
843
00:37:17,713 --> 00:37:20,846
I made a mistake.
844
00:37:20,847 --> 00:37:25,329
I wish I could do it
all over again,
845
00:37:25,330 --> 00:37:28,070
be a different person,
a stronger person.
846
00:37:28,071 --> 00:37:29,681
But I wasn't, and I didn't.
847
00:37:29,682 --> 00:37:31,900
And I have to live with that
for the rest of my life.
848
00:37:31,901 --> 00:37:34,033
- I'm afraid you do.
849
00:37:34,034 --> 00:37:35,991
I have nothing further.
850
00:37:35,992 --> 00:37:42,998
?
851
00:37:42,999 --> 00:37:46,350
- Nolan.
852
00:37:46,351 --> 00:37:48,830
What you did in there,
using her film
853
00:37:48,831 --> 00:37:49,918
against her in that way?
854
00:37:49,919 --> 00:37:51,050
- That was fair game, Sam.
855
00:37:51,051 --> 00:37:53,313
- No, no, that was legal.
856
00:37:53,314 --> 00:37:55,968
But it wasn't fair.
857
00:37:55,969 --> 00:37:57,622
I-
858
00:37:57,623 --> 00:38:00,059
you're the one who always
says trials are supposed
859
00:38:00,060 --> 00:38:01,756
to be a search for the truth.
860
00:38:01,757 --> 00:38:04,716
So please tell me how the hell
the jury is supposed to
861
00:38:04,717 --> 00:38:07,849
make a decision about Michelle,
about this case
862
00:38:07,850 --> 00:38:10,330
when they don't have
all the facts,
863
00:38:10,331 --> 00:38:12,767
when they don't actually know
the truth.
864
00:38:12,768 --> 00:38:17,511
- The jury decides what is and
isn't true based on the facts,
865
00:38:17,512 --> 00:38:20,427
on the relevant facts.
866
00:38:20,428 --> 00:38:25,345
- I respect that you are
a man of principle,
867
00:38:25,346 --> 00:38:26,999
but I have my principles too.
868
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:31,569
- Well, then we'll just
have to agree to disagree.
869
00:38:31,570 --> 00:38:32,620
- No.
870
00:38:37,358 --> 00:38:39,707
Do you really think
that you know more
871
00:38:39,708 --> 00:38:43,929
about domestic violence
than I do?
872
00:38:43,930 --> 00:38:47,367
I-I have counseled victims.
873
00:38:47,368 --> 00:38:49,326
I've volunteered at shelters.
874
00:38:49,327 --> 00:38:51,893
I studied the psychological
impact of trauma.
875
00:38:51,894 --> 00:38:55,593
And there's my sister, who died
at the hands of an abuser.
876
00:38:55,594 --> 00:38:59,379
So please don't tell me what
Michelle should have done
877
00:38:59,380 --> 00:39:01,642
or what she was
legally required to do.
878
00:39:01,643 --> 00:39:03,862
She spent most of her life
being abused.
879
00:39:03,863 --> 00:39:06,560
And the truth is,
Nolan, she wasn't
880
00:39:06,561 --> 00:39:09,433
capable of protecting herself,
let alone her daughter.
881
00:39:09,434 --> 00:39:12,697
And there is no punishment
in the world
882
00:39:12,698 --> 00:39:14,351
that is going to change that.
883
00:39:14,352 --> 00:39:17,397
?
884
00:39:17,398 --> 00:39:19,399
Now, if you don't
respect my opinion
885
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:22,533
when it comes to this issue,
886
00:39:22,534 --> 00:39:26,014
then I don't know what the hell
I'm doing in this office.
887
00:39:26,015 --> 00:39:30,758
?
888
00:39:30,759 --> 00:39:32,238
- What do you mean,
you wanna cut a deal?
889
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:33,587
We've been through this.
890
00:39:33,588 --> 00:39:36,373
We agreed Michelle Burns
failed in her duty
891
00:39:36,374 --> 00:39:38,113
to protect her child.
892
00:39:38,114 --> 00:39:39,554
- I'm having second thoughts.
893
00:39:41,901 --> 00:39:45,251
Sam has been pretty passionate
in her defense
894
00:39:45,252 --> 00:39:48,036
of Michelle Burns, and...
895
00:39:48,037 --> 00:39:49,603
I'm starting to see
her point of view.
896
00:39:49,604 --> 00:39:52,780
I'm not so sure that sending
an abuse victim to prison
897
00:39:52,781 --> 00:39:55,522
for 15 years is the right call.
898
00:39:55,523 --> 00:39:57,524
- Neither am I.
899
00:39:57,525 --> 00:39:59,961
But I have to look
at the big picture.
900
00:39:59,962 --> 00:40:03,443
There are larger
societal implications here.
901
00:40:03,444 --> 00:40:05,967
- You're right.
[sighs]
902
00:40:05,968 --> 00:40:09,449
But let's face it, Nick, Sam
knows more about these issues
903
00:40:09,450 --> 00:40:11,233
than we do.
904
00:40:11,234 --> 00:40:14,367
Maybe it's time for us
to start listening to her,
905
00:40:14,368 --> 00:40:18,415
instead of telling her
why she's wrong.
906
00:40:18,416 --> 00:40:25,553
?
907
00:40:25,554 --> 00:40:28,816
Your Honor, the defendant
has agreed to plead guilty,
908
00:40:28,817 --> 00:40:30,688
and we have a sentencing
recommendation
909
00:40:30,689 --> 00:40:32,472
for the court's consideration.
910
00:40:32,473 --> 00:40:33,647
- I'll hear it.
911
00:40:33,648 --> 00:40:35,475
- The defendant will admit
to so much
912
00:40:35,476 --> 00:40:37,477
of the complaint
that alleges endangering
913
00:40:37,478 --> 00:40:38,913
the welfare of a child,
914
00:40:38,914 --> 00:40:41,220
and she will serve
one year in jail,
915
00:40:41,221 --> 00:40:44,179
followed by three years
of post-release supervision.
916
00:40:44,180 --> 00:40:45,834
- Defense?
917
00:40:48,141 --> 00:40:49,663
- We have agreed to the terms.
918
00:40:49,664 --> 00:40:53,450
- Okay, Ms. Burns, I will
accept your change of plea
919
00:40:53,451 --> 00:40:56,235
and sentence you
to one year in jail.
920
00:40:56,236 --> 00:40:57,845
Court is adjourned.
921
00:40:57,846 --> 00:40:59,194
[gavel bangs]
922
00:40:59,195 --> 00:41:06,159
?
923
00:41:10,163 --> 00:41:14,209
- Thank you for hearing me.
924
00:41:14,210 --> 00:41:21,174
?
925
00:41:32,446 --> 00:41:35,404
[dramatic music]
926
00:41:35,405 --> 00:41:42,587
?
927
00:42:02,476 --> 00:42:05,610
[wolf howls]
928
00:42:05,660 --> 00:42:10,210
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