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So here is reception, a customer
comes from the street.
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Here you have
the room number two,
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the little one.
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So here is Sophia,
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the biggest doll, the taller,
big breasts, big booty.
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So this room is bigger because
it's for a couple,
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so people come more
in this space,
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so here you have two dolls,
this is skinny dolls.
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We also provide the VR system,
virtual reality porn movie.
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The concept is,
you see something
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and you feel something,
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so you are in another world,
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but you have a real physical
sensation with the dolls.
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It just the beginning,
but I think in the future
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we'll have some headset like
this connected with the dolls,
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so it's just the beginning.
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[quirky music]
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Narrator: The porn revolution
is moving fast.
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In Britain,
we've become so worried,
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there are now plans
to block under-18s
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from watching online porn.
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- Yes.
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Yes, I know you're cumming,
you're cumming,
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you're cumming.
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Narrator: Since this
programme started,
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another 100,000 of us
have begun searching
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on the world's biggest internet
porn site, Pornhub.
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Producer: How often would you
use porn now?
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Sometimes two times a day,
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up to maybe, easily probably a
minimum five times a week.
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- It's hard to like get into bed
with your phone in your hand
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- and not then look at porn.
- Yeah.
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Narrator: Pornhub alone receives
92 million visitors a day -
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that's like the
combined population
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of Spain and Uganda logging on.
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- "Big Tit, Anal MILFs".
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Narrator: It's an industry
worth billions.
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Our growth was phenomenal.
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We were at the time, growing
10 times faster
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than Facebook, and that was all
through word of mouth.
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Narrator: The genie is out of
the bottle.
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- The internet was made
for porn.
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We brought porn to the masses.
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There's more porn flooding
the Earth
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than ever before in the history
of mankind.
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Narrator: We'll explain how
far porn has come,
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where it's taking us...
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..and how some are trying
to hold back the tide.
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- If you only learn about sex
from porn,
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porn teaches you that sex
is a performance.
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- When you think of porn
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and you think about a film
that you've watched,
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what's actually happening? What
are they saying to each other?
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Do you think that some
of those categories
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are even appropriate
for you guys,
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- like...
- No.
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Narrator: We'll also try
to understand
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if porn is beginning
to change you...
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..because whether you want
to admit it or not,
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you are the people watching it.
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Have fun, rolling and action.
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- Hello miss, how are you doing?
- Good.
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- And how old are you?
- I'm 23.
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- 23.
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Narrator: Across the world,
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there's a growing appetite
for porn
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that requires constant feeding.
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And today, all you need is a
smart phone or a cheap camera
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to become a pornographer.
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- If I didn't think that
I could make...
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..$50,000 to $60,000 a month,
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if I didn't think
I could do that,
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I wouldn't be doing this.
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I basically find really,
really, really beautiful girls
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and have sex with them on
camera, make videos with them.
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Narrator: Jason used to be
a landscape gardener...
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..but now he's part of
the porn gold rush,
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where amateur producers
are cashing in
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outside of the
mainstream industry.
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When the internet first came out
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and people first started doing
what I'm doing,
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you had to build
your own website...
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..whereas now you don't have any
of those costs and hurdles.
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There's plenty of
different sites
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that you can put your stuff up,
where you can sell it per clip.
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Narrator: He travels all over
America seeking out young women
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who are willing to be filmed
having sex with him.
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[GPS voice speaking faintly]
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- I prefer to get girls that,
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where it's not even a career
for them...
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..or, or where it is early
in their career.
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The realer, the better.
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Narrator: His most
popular videos
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are those featuring brand
new performers.
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Viewers will never have seen
them doing porn before.
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- So this one here
in the corner is like,
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for if the girl's on top,
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right, so if she's on
top like here, facing this way,
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this camera will pick that up.
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and I have a handheld one
that I always keep on the bed,
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so that's where kind of
this one falls in
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and captures that angle.
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And then this one here,
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it needs to go up like
as high as possible...
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..and it basically captures,
like, looking down.
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And this one is just front
facing, very simple,
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and there's one more cam -
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this is good for when a girl
is getting eaten out.
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Narrator: In three years,
Jason's uploaded
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more than 100 videos
to a website
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that allows anyone
to sell homemade porn
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direct to online customers.
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Jason: Have you ever done a
video like this before?
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Girl: No.
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Jason: Can you take that off?
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[girl moaning]
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I create a product that a
lot of people enjoy.
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It's a fantasy thing.
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Men generally are interested in
having sex with beautiful women.
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Men just think that way,
that's how the world fucking is.
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They vicariously can live
through me, in a way...
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..so if you're creating
a product
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that someone gets enjoyment
out of, it creates value.
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That's why they pay
for this stuff.
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Narrator: Jason's first
time porn brand
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has brought him
a loyal following.
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So much so, that in a world
where adult content
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is generally free...
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..his fans are still prepared
to pay for it.
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[indistinct voices on video]
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- I'm making a lot of money
right now,
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but it's not enough.
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I need 'fuck you money'.
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Narrator: Jason's cagey about
how much he's actually earning.
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But what we do know
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is there are thousands of DIY
pornographers like him,
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trying to make money out of
porn's online explosion.
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- Hardcore porn is more freely
and widely available
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on the internet
than ever before.
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There is an entire generation
growing up,
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that believes that what you see
in hardcore pornography
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is the way that you have sex.
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Narrator: This is Cindy Gallop.
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Her 2009 TED Talk warned of the
worrying cultural effect porn
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is now having on young people.
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It went viral.
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I date younger men,
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predominantly men in their 20s.
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and when I date younger men,
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I have sex with younger men.
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And when I have sex
with younger men,
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I encounter very directly
and personally,
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the real ramifications
of the creeping ubiquity
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of hardcore pornography
in our culture.
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I have no problem responding as
I have regularly had to,
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"Actually no, thank you
very much,
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"I'd much rather you
did not cum on my face."
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Narrator: In the 10 years since
Cindy gave her talk,
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porn use has rocketed.
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By 2012, YouPorn, just one porn
site amongst hundreds,
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received more internet traffic
every second
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than the average UK household
would generate in six months.
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But there's been a revolution in
the way people view porn too.
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Smartphones mean we can
access porn on the go,
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so now we're watching
it in public.
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Last year,
coffee chain Starbucks,
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decided it would have to block
porn from its Wi-Fi...
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..and it seems
everyone's been at it.
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The internet network
in Parliament
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recently recorded 160 requests
a day to watch porn.
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But it's the generation
that's grown up with porn
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at its fingertips that use
it most.
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18 to 34-year-olds make up
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nearly two-thirds of
Pornhub's visitors.
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But what the stats
don't tell us
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is how many people under 18 are
looking at porn.
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Producer: Have you talked about
this before?
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I've never talked
about it before.
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So this will be my first time.
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Sometimes it's left up to people
such as myself
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to try and bite the bullet
and tackle issues like that.
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It is a difficult topic,
but we shall see.
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So we are talking about porn
today, guys.
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So, when you do see this big
bright word saying 'porn',
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what's your initial
thought that come to your mind?
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- Sexual intercourse.
- Sexual intercourse, sex,
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- Sex.
- Sex.
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- A traumatising experience.
- A traumatising experience.
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[shuddering]
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- It makes you shudder
and cringe.
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- The first thing that comes
into my head, yeah,
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when I saw that was
a fake taxi, I don't know why.
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- A fake taxi.
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- Or step mum and her son.
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[all laughing]
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- Yeah, or step brother,
step brother and step sister.
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- Or father and daughter.
- Father and daughter.
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- Yeah.
- Step sisters, step daughters.
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So all these categories, right?
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- This one everyone knows about,
this one everyone knows about.
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- Two girls, one cup
- Two girls, one cup.
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Two girls, one cup!
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- There's like eleven year olds,
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thirteen year olds
are watching porn.
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- Some people watch it to learn
how to do stuff
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with their partner or their
sexual partner or whatever.
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They watch porn and then learn
from the video
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and then do it
in actual real life.
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[all laughing]
- Yeah!
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Producer: What was it that
you'd seen that you start,
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started to make you worry?
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I think to myself,
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"well it seems formulaic
to me", OK?
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It seems to me that
the emphasis
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- is on satisfying the guy.
- Yeah.
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So it looks to me like
it's quite formulaic.
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There'll be a lot of oral sex,
female to male.
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Yeah, quite a lot.
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And then there'll be some quite
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I'd call aggressive penetration.
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Yeah? Of all, you know,
different types.
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And then, there'll be
what I would call...
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Well, the climax will be,
like...
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- I don't...
- And it seems to go on forever.
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How can it be, you know,
someone's face or on their boobs
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or something, you just think,
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Geez, if nine times out of ten,
if a bloke did that to his wife,
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she's gonna slap him, you know,
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that's not how we do stuff,
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- I don't think.
- It's not realistic.
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I find it a little bit gross
if I'm really honest.
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And you know,
I don't want my son
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treating a woman like that and
I don't want my daughter
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to be treated like that.
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Now, if they evolve
in a relationship
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where they decide that is
what they want to do
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and that's me being a prude
then that's fine.
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But you know,
not on the first date, you know?
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- Tomorrow I'm supposed to be
picking up a girl
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that's coming in, flying in from
Connecticut to Vegas...
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..and she's going to do her
very first shoot with me.
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She is 19, almost 20.
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Her mum seems kind of like,
maybe overbearing or something.
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Producer: So her mum doesn't
want her to go?
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No. Definitely doesn't want her
to go.
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She wants to go though,
she definitely wants to go.
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Producer: Do you understand why
her mum doesn't want her to go?
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Yeah, sure.
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Most parents wouldn't want their
kid to quit high school
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like a lot of us did,
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so I understand that totally,
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but I also understand the kid
that wants to leave
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and do what they want to do.
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I tend to side with the kid
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that wants to go do what
they want to do,
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as long as like they're not put
into a position where, you know,
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they're hurting themselves or
that someone is like,
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taking advantage of them.
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[laughing and moaning on video]
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Producer: Aren't you
taking advantage?
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Hm?
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Producer: Aren't you taking
advantage in a way?
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In what way?
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Producer: Well, encouraging her
to start doing porn.
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Taking advantage?
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Producer: Because you're going
to film her to make money.
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Yeah, she's going to be
paid though to make it.
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[indistinct voices on video]
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It's a business, you know?
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[church bells ringing]
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- Where parents are
too embarrassed
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to have conversations about sex
with their children...
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..hardcore pornography de facto
has become sex education.
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My concern is particularly
with the young girl
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whose boyfriend wants to cum
on her face.
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she does not want him to cum
on her face,
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but hardcore porn has taught her
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that all men love cumming
on women's faces,
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all women love having
their faces cum on,
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and therefore she must let him
cum on her face
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and she must pretend to like it.
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[crowd cheering on video]
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- Oh, god.
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Narrator: Cindy Gallop's
TED Talk
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has had almost two and a half
million views.
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Today, she's bringing her
message to Oxford University
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in a Q&A exploring how
she wants to disrupt porn.
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Current student, Theo,
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has been given the job
of interviewing her.
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- I've interviewed
prime ministers,
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cabinet ministers,
academics, historians.
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We had an event with somebody
about music yesterday
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and it was all very nice.
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This topic does not crop up when
I talk to prime ministers
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or politicians at all.
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She's not afraid to
say these things
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and she's not afraid
to talk about
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all of these sexual sort
of terminologies,
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and it frightens
the everyday person.
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Narrator: Cindy travels
the world,
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determined to make people
face the realities
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of how porn may now be
influencing us.
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Woman: I'm here to welcome
Cindy Gallop
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whose been fighting
all of her life,
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and she cares deeply about the
society in which we live,
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so it's great, Cindy,
that you're here this evening
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to talk about sex, relationships
and porn.
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[applause]
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Because we don't talk about sex
as a society,
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we are enormously nervous and
insecure about it as a result.
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Everybody wants to be
"good in bed",
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no-one knows exactly
what that means,
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and so you will seize your cues
on how to do that
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from anywhere you can and if the
only cues you've seen
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are in porn, those are the ones
you're going to take.
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I always emphasise the issue
isn't porn -
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the issue is that we don't talk
about sex in the real world.
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People don't get how
massively, profoundly,
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fundamentally beneficial the
impact of that would be.
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- Some parents don't want
their children
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to be having
these conversations.
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- But what do you think the fear
is of parents
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just about you guys
talking about
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what is actually out there?
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That you're exposed to
that kind of stuff.
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- Could you talk to your
parents about porn?
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- No.
- Never! Could never.
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You could never do that.
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So that's already
a barrier there.
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So why can't you guys talk about
porn with your parents?
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It's an intimate kind of thing,
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like you don't really,
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like I wouldn't say it to my
friends, "oh I watch porn",
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like I just wouldn't say it
like that.
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- Yeah, because you find it
very personal.
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Yeah, it's a personal thing.
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- 'Cause our parents always
think that we're innocent,
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'cause to them we're
still babies
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so they don't know that
we learn from society
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what these things are.
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Producer: What was your like
sex education like in school?
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- I didn't have one.
- Did you not?
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Really?
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Not that I can remember fully.
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I remember we learnt about it
in science, that was it.
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- Really?
- Yeah.
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Because I went to an all-girls
school that was Catholic, so...
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- Oh, yeah.
- That explains it.
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Yeah.
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Producer: There's an idea that
porn has become sex education
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for a whole generation.
What do you think about that?
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I remember when we was doing sex
education in class
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like in my third of fourth year
of secondary school,
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and they were explaining
something to us,
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I can't remember what it was,
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but then one of the boys
shouted out,
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"That's not what I saw
on Pornhub."
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It's like,
oh, that's entertainment,
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that's not real life.
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It's made up, but he just
couldn't understand that,
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he genuinely thought
Pornhub was real
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'cause his parents had never
spoken to him
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about like, what sex is, what it
is, and all stuff like that,
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so he kind of just always
had this idea
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from what he'd seen online.
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Sexuality was never brought up.
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Never.
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So, I mean, me being gay,
it was...
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..that became pretty difficult
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because I never learnt about it,
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I had to sort of figure things
out for myself
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and I was never educated on
certain things.
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I had to go and find it myself.
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then you would, you'll Google it
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and you'll find things
such as porn.
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Yeah.
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Narrator: Whilst we've not been
talking about porn,
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more and more of it is
made every day,
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with DIY producers like Jason
popping up all over the world.
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- I know somebody who's making
$90,000 a month in sales,
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$90,000 a month.
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But actually, in life,
when you try to put
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happiness or something like
that on a dollar,
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like a dollar amount,
that's foolish, you know.
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I don't give a shit about
a dollar amount.
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I just want a lot.
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Narrator: Jason's constantly
looking for new ideas...
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..something to make his videos
stand out.
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His latest plan is to turn his
friend, Matt, into a porn star.
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- Come out here, Fat Bastard.
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so this is my friend,
Fat Bastard.
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- His name is Matt.
- Not so fat.
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- You're fat as fuck.
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He's basically
the all-American, every day...
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- Fat guy.
- ..Walmart NASCAR guy
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that's going to get
in there and pound.
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The average dude's going
to see you and say,
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"I want to be like Matt."
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Or like Fat Bastard.
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That's the plan,
and he's just a normal dude.
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We should hide this hotel shit,
right?
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- I think they can figure out
it's a hotel
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by the white sheets.
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- Yeah, but not the names,
got the names all on that shit.
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Producer: So the hotel doesn't
know you're doing this?
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Nah, they never know.
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Is that naughty?
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It should be this one, yes.
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Move the camera and stand
in towards you.
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It's the same thing as if
you're doggy style
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or if she's doggy style,
she's facing this way.
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This is going to be like
the insertion shot, right?
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Narrator: Matt's travelled here
for the shoot from Utah
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where he works as a bus driver.
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He first contacted Jason after
watching his videos online,
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and offered to help him
recruit new performers.
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Now he's about to become
one himself.
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- A little nervous.
You just hear the horror stories
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about first time shoots.
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Producer: What are some of
the horror stories?
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You can't get it up
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or I mean, you pop
too quick, or...
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Producer: Remind me again why
you're doing this?
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It's the all-American dream.
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What can you say, you know?
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You get to start your own brand.
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The Fat Bastard idea, that's me.
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Um...
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And then if that's out there
and everybody can see it,
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I mean, that's... You're...
At that point
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I'm a personality,
I guess you would call it.
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Producer: So are you doing it
for fame or fortune?
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A little bit of both.
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I want people to sit there
and go,
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"I wish I could do that,
I wish I was him."
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[slow guitar music]
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I knew that if I wanted to
counter the global impact
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of porn as default sex ed,
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I was going to have to
come up with something
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that at least had
the potential one day
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to be just as mass,
just as mainstream
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and just as all-pervasive in our
society as porn currently is.
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Narrator: To try and counter
porn's negative influence,
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Cindy decided to
create a new platform
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for ordinary people to post
homemade sex videos online.
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- My tiny team and I launched
a video-sharing platform
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that celebrates real world sex.
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So anyone from anywhere in
the world can submit to us.
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Those social sex videos on
'Make Love not Porn'
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are not about
performing for the camera.
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Capture what goes on
in the real world,
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as it happens spontaneously.
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We do not publish it
unless it's real.
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We are absolutely not about
production values.
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OK, this is real world sex,
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people film themselves
on their phone, you know,
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on their laptop, whatever it is.
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Real world bodies,
real world hair,
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real world penis size,
real world breast size,
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nothing but nothing makes you
feel great about your own body
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like watching people
who are nobody's idea
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of aspirational body types,
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having a bloody amazing time
in bed.
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We celebrate the accidents,
the awkwardness, the messiness.
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Narrator: Cindy's idea is
to allow people
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to share their sex lives,
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the same way you might post
holiday snaps on social media,
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so that people can understand
sex from each other,
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rather than porn stars.
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If you only learn about sex
from porn,
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porn teaches you that sex
is a performance.
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Nothing educates people about
what are good sexual values
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and good sexual behaviour
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like actually watching people
having that kind of sex.
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- Somebody could argue that
you just set up
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an amateur porn site.
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So first of all,
they're not porn videos, Theo,
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they are real world sex videos.
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Well of course, that depends on
your interpretation.
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We are not porn.
We are not 'amateur'.
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We're building a whole new
category on the internet
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that's never previously
existed - social sex.
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Surely you've kind of
skipped a few steps.
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Have you gone too far
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with this radical vision
to begin with?
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If I wanted to learn more about
the things you're talking about,
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do I have to watch people
having sex?
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Do me a favour - go to Google,
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enter into the search box
the word 'porn',
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like millions of children
do every single day.
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Look at the top ten sites
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that come up on page one
of Google when you do that.
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Go to the home page of each,
take a long hard look at it,
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and then tell me I shouldn't
be doing what I'm doing.
495
00:24:05,340 --> 00:24:08,410
- I'm gonna give you your pep
talk here, in all sincerity.
496
00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:10,310
We're just going to say
it's like your first scene,
497
00:24:10,410 --> 00:24:12,210
and this is your...
498
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:15,590
..introductory shoot, OK?
499
00:24:15,690 --> 00:24:16,900
So there's no pressure on it.
500
00:24:17,380 --> 00:24:18,310
Yeah.
501
00:24:18,410 --> 00:24:21,410
It's a hot girl,
and you're going to fuck her.
502
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:23,660
Like, I'm serious,
like no pressure.
503
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:25,450
- OK?
- Alright.
504
00:24:25,550 --> 00:24:26,760
OK.
505
00:24:28,380 --> 00:24:31,280
No pressure,
no pressure for him.
506
00:24:31,380 --> 00:24:33,310
I'm just going to film you guys
on this one.
507
00:24:33,410 --> 00:24:34,860
And you guys go at it
right here.
508
00:24:34,970 --> 00:24:36,860
Start thinking about
too much shit,
509
00:24:36,970 --> 00:24:39,210
other than what you're doing,
your dick can go down.
510
00:24:39,310 --> 00:24:40,240
Alright.
511
00:24:40,340 --> 00:24:42,900
OK? Any questions or anything?
512
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,760
- Not that I can think of.
- OK.
513
00:24:45,860 --> 00:24:49,930
Narrator: Jason believes he can
turn Matt into a brand...
514
00:24:50,030 --> 00:24:52,590
..and is encouraging him
to adopt a character.
515
00:24:55,450 --> 00:24:58,210
- Ah, you look good.
You are fat as fuck, though.
516
00:24:58,310 --> 00:25:01,070
Narrator: In his debut scene,
Matt will be performing
517
00:25:01,170 --> 00:25:04,210
with professional porn star,
Carolina Sweets.
518
00:25:04,310 --> 00:25:05,620
- Hey.
- Hi.
519
00:25:06,310 --> 00:25:07,310
- Hiya.
520
00:25:08,690 --> 00:25:10,760
Narrator: Carolina
gets a one-off fee,
521
00:25:10,860 --> 00:25:13,620
the industry standard
is around $1,000.
522
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:16,310
But with Jason's guidance,
523
00:25:16,410 --> 00:25:19,340
Matt has been told he could earn
much more than that,
524
00:25:19,450 --> 00:25:22,590
if his performance stands out
and the video sells.
525
00:25:22,690 --> 00:25:25,000
- There he is.
- Nice.
526
00:25:25,100 --> 00:25:27,720
Thought we were joking.
527
00:25:27,830 --> 00:25:29,760
I actually thought he was
joking too!
528
00:25:29,860 --> 00:25:32,380
All you need is, like,
a little cooler for you to hold.
529
00:25:33,380 --> 00:25:34,590
- I don't know if
he should take,
530
00:25:34,690 --> 00:25:36,210
I don't know if he
should take them off
531
00:25:36,310 --> 00:25:38,790
or if he should just try
to fuck with them on.
532
00:25:38,900 --> 00:25:39,830
What do you think?
533
00:25:39,930 --> 00:25:41,550
I didn't even know it
zipped down until like
534
00:25:41,660 --> 00:25:43,070
he had them on like
a couple of minutes ago.
535
00:25:43,170 --> 00:25:45,550
- Yeah, but that might hurt.
- Yeah.
536
00:25:45,660 --> 00:25:47,310
- Like you're going to
break him in.
537
00:25:47,410 --> 00:25:48,900
We're going to make
it completely realistic
538
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:50,900
and we'll just like start
in the bedroom.
539
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:54,240
This is his first time, you guys
are just going to go at it.
540
00:25:54,340 --> 00:25:56,480
- Now what exactly are we
supposed to talk about,
541
00:25:56,590 --> 00:25:57,720
because you've seen my acting...
542
00:25:57,830 --> 00:25:59,930
- ..it sucks.
- No, no, you're not acting,
543
00:26:00,030 --> 00:26:02,240
- you're not acting at all.
- This won't be acting at all.
544
00:26:02,340 --> 00:26:05,860
Just literally what
you're doing right now.
545
00:26:05,970 --> 00:26:07,970
- Yeah, we're introducing you,
Fat Bastard.
546
00:26:08,070 --> 00:26:09,520
Producer: How you feeling, Matt?
547
00:26:10,900 --> 00:26:11,930
- How are you feeling?
548
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,970
I don't really know.
I'll let you know in an hour.
549
00:26:18,590 --> 00:26:20,860
Producer: How are you
feeling, Carolina?
550
00:26:20,970 --> 00:26:24,280
Pretty excited.
Let's break him in.
551
00:26:24,380 --> 00:26:27,030
- Alright, so I guess we're
going to start right now.
552
00:26:30,070 --> 00:26:31,830
- OK.
- Yeah.
553
00:26:35,310 --> 00:26:37,620
[Jason on recording]: Debut porn
video right here
554
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:39,140
with Carolina Sweets.
555
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,480
So how do you feel about
breaking in
556
00:26:41,590 --> 00:26:43,240
my man right here
for his first shoot?
557
00:26:43,340 --> 00:26:44,380
I feel great.
558
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:45,520
[Jason on recording]: Awesome.
559
00:26:45,620 --> 00:26:47,000
And how do you feel,
Fat Bastard?
560
00:26:47,100 --> 00:26:48,930
I don't know how's she's going
to break me, I'm too fat.
561
00:26:49,030 --> 00:26:51,030
[Jason on recording]: You are
too fat. You're a big boy.
562
00:26:51,140 --> 00:26:52,690
Why don't you get up there
and stand up,
563
00:26:52,790 --> 00:26:54,450
let's see this outfit you
got on right here,
564
00:26:54,550 --> 00:26:55,550
what you walk around in,
565
00:26:55,660 --> 00:26:57,410
you Walmart motherfucker
right here.
566
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:00,170
This is funny as fuck!
567
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,030
[Jason on recording]: Well why
don't you guys like
568
00:27:02,140 --> 00:27:03,860
go over by the chair so I can
get better lighting here
569
00:27:03,970 --> 00:27:07,170
and go ahead and just, Carolina
just break his ass in, please.
570
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:08,410
[Carolina on recording]: I will.
571
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:10,030
[Jason on recording]: If you
will. Alright?
572
00:27:10,140 --> 00:27:12,140
[Carolina on recording]: It's
why you brought me tonight.
573
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,240
[Jason on recording]: That's
right. Gotta straight up...
574
00:27:14,340 --> 00:27:16,000
Producer: So will people
pay for this?
575
00:27:16,100 --> 00:27:19,550
Yeah, I think so. It's unique.
576
00:27:19,660 --> 00:27:21,930
I'll definitely have
a core group of people
577
00:27:22,030 --> 00:27:23,240
that are going to be able
to relate to him,
578
00:27:23,340 --> 00:27:25,690
I'm pretty damn
confident in that.
579
00:27:25,790 --> 00:27:27,450
What I hope to do
with this video
580
00:27:27,550 --> 00:27:30,410
is basically just expand
the customer base.
581
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:33,070
that's what
the most important thing is.
582
00:27:33,170 --> 00:27:35,000
It's like any business.
583
00:27:35,100 --> 00:27:36,900
[Jason on recording]: You ain't
looking as good as Carolina
584
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:38,210
but you looking good
right over there.
585
00:27:38,310 --> 00:27:39,340
Duh.
586
00:27:39,450 --> 00:27:42,790
- Anything over
200, 300,000 viewers is good
587
00:27:42,900 --> 00:27:45,450
but anything like
a million and up,
588
00:27:45,550 --> 00:27:46,930
you really can't ask for more.
589
00:27:50,380 --> 00:27:51,900
Producer: Have you told your
girlfriend how it went?
590
00:27:52,380 --> 00:27:53,860
No.
591
00:27:53,970 --> 00:27:54,860
Producer: Will you?
592
00:27:54,970 --> 00:27:57,310
Yeah, when I get home.
593
00:28:01,070 --> 00:28:02,140
Producer: What do you think
she'll say?
594
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,830
I don't think she even
will wanna know.
595
00:28:07,100 --> 00:28:09,480
That was kind of part of the
deal is that, you know,
596
00:28:09,590 --> 00:28:12,520
I don't tell her about it,
I don't show it to her,
597
00:28:12,620 --> 00:28:14,030
and it's work only.
598
00:28:16,070 --> 00:28:17,410
Producer: Did you think
about her?
599
00:28:17,970 --> 00:28:19,140
No.
600
00:28:21,970 --> 00:28:23,860
That would just be
kind of wrong, you know.
601
00:28:28,970 --> 00:28:31,140
Narrator: These days,
there's no barrier
602
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:34,210
to an ordinary guy like Matt
becoming a porn star.
603
00:28:35,380 --> 00:28:37,380
But once Jason uploads
their film,
604
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:41,380
there'll never be an opportunity
for Matt to change his mind.
605
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:43,760
Today happened.
606
00:28:43,860 --> 00:28:49,450
It will be replayed over and
over, all around the world.
607
00:28:49,550 --> 00:28:51,970
And it's the enormous power
of the internet,
608
00:28:52,070 --> 00:28:53,900
its reach and spread
609
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,860
that's making us question
the impact of porn,
610
00:28:56,970 --> 00:28:58,830
especially on a generation
611
00:28:58,930 --> 00:29:01,790
that's been able to access it
so easily.
612
00:29:01,900 --> 00:29:05,410
Do you think access to porn,
in whatever relationship,
613
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,210
heterosexual, homosexual,
lesbian, whatever,
614
00:29:08,310 --> 00:29:12,140
- that it speeds up the...
- Yeah.
615
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,210
..the evolution of
your relationship,
616
00:29:14,310 --> 00:29:15,760
or it slows it down?
617
00:29:15,860 --> 00:29:19,240
I think people nowadays go
straight to sex
618
00:29:19,340 --> 00:29:21,690
and then they think about the
emotional bond afterwards,
619
00:29:21,790 --> 00:29:22,900
and they sort of think,
620
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:24,720
"alright, let's just get
all this sort of
621
00:29:24,830 --> 00:29:26,690
"sexual stuff out the way,
and then we'll figure out
622
00:29:26,790 --> 00:29:28,830
"if we actually really
like each other."
623
00:29:28,930 --> 00:29:30,310
- It's not really, I think...
- Don't you think that's...
624
00:29:30,410 --> 00:29:32,030
Obviously, I think the initial
attraction is always there.
625
00:29:32,140 --> 00:29:33,410
Don't you think that's
the wrong way round?
626
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:35,720
That is, yeah exactly, that is
definitely the wrong way round.
627
00:29:35,830 --> 00:29:38,690
And it's very much sort of
like...
628
00:29:38,790 --> 00:29:40,380
We've had loads of
discussions about
629
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,760
what we think people have
gone into doing
630
00:29:42,860 --> 00:29:44,760
- sexual stuff too early.
- Yeah.
631
00:29:44,860 --> 00:29:46,340
And now they're just
sort of like,
632
00:29:46,450 --> 00:29:48,760
"well what's now,
we haven't got anything
633
00:29:48,860 --> 00:29:52,140
"to like look forward to and
look forward to" in a sense,
634
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:53,340
"we haven't got anything to..."
635
00:29:53,450 --> 00:29:54,590
- Build up to.
- Yeah.
636
00:29:54,690 --> 00:29:55,760
You build your confidence up,
don't you?
637
00:29:55,860 --> 00:29:56,790
Yeah, yeah.
638
00:29:56,900 --> 00:29:59,480
And then it's just sort of like,
"well we've done everything now,
639
00:29:59,590 --> 00:30:01,070
"what do we do now?
Talk to each other?"
640
00:30:01,170 --> 00:30:03,410
Oh my lord, heaven forbid.
641
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,310
Sit down and watch a film? Ew.
642
00:30:07,030 --> 00:30:10,480
- Trying to change
social narratives around sex
643
00:30:10,590 --> 00:30:13,830
is quite
extraordinarily difficult.
644
00:30:13,930 --> 00:30:16,170
- Why haven't governments
been doing it?
645
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:17,970
is it simply because we don't
want to talk about it,
646
00:30:18,070 --> 00:30:19,000
it's too awkward?
647
00:30:19,100 --> 00:30:21,030
Yeah, the government
doesn't even want to go there
648
00:30:21,140 --> 00:30:22,340
- and they absolutely should.
- Have you tried
649
00:30:22,450 --> 00:30:24,140
to speak to them about
your work?
650
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,690
Yeah, so I wrote an open letter
to David Cameron
651
00:30:26,790 --> 00:30:27,970
about precisely this issue
652
00:30:28,070 --> 00:30:29,660
and the headline was, you know,
653
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,720
"David Cameron,
don't block porn, disrupt it".
654
00:30:32,830 --> 00:30:36,030
And what I said in that letter,
the issue isn't porn,
655
00:30:36,140 --> 00:30:38,140
the issue is that we don't talk
about sex in the real world.
656
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,590
The answer then that
worries me about porn
657
00:30:40,690 --> 00:30:44,660
is not to shut down, censor,
clamp down, block, repress,
658
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:46,900
it is instead to open up.
659
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,410
Open up the dialogue around all
of this, like I'm trying to do
660
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:50,930
because when you do that,
661
00:30:51,030 --> 00:30:53,690
you completely change
the landscape of "adult".
662
00:30:53,790 --> 00:30:55,170
- Did he, he didn't respond
at all?
663
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,340
Sadly he didn't respond, no.
664
00:30:57,450 --> 00:30:59,000
If you could all join me in
thanking Cindy
665
00:30:59,100 --> 00:31:00,620
for being such a wonderful
guest, thank you Cindy.
666
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:02,970
[crowd applauding]
667
00:31:06,930 --> 00:31:08,210
Narrator: But in the UK,
668
00:31:08,310 --> 00:31:10,790
the growing fear around
access to porn...
669
00:31:11,690 --> 00:31:13,410
..has led to plans for a new law
670
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:15,140
which will block kids
from watching it.
671
00:31:17,660 --> 00:31:20,140
It would mean that
if you visit a porn site,
672
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:23,930
you have to prove you're 18
using credit card info
673
00:31:24,030 --> 00:31:27,590
or a driving licence
to verify your age.
674
00:31:27,690 --> 00:31:30,340
- Our government are looking at
putting in a porn block,
675
00:31:30,450 --> 00:31:32,070
do you think that's a
good thing or a bad thing?
676
00:31:32,170 --> 00:31:34,970
If you're under 18,
to have a porn block?
677
00:31:35,070 --> 00:31:37,210
- A lot of people know how to
get around that stuff.
678
00:31:37,310 --> 00:31:39,000
People will still find ways.
679
00:31:39,100 --> 00:31:40,790
- 'Cause it's all about
social media.
680
00:31:40,900 --> 00:31:43,450
You get all of these
pornographies,
681
00:31:43,550 --> 00:31:46,340
and all these sexual things
through social media
682
00:31:46,450 --> 00:31:48,410
and through Snapchat, through
Instagram, through Twitter.
683
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,790
So in essence, you're saying
that if they put a ban it,
684
00:31:51,900 --> 00:31:52,790
it's not going to matter anyway.
685
00:31:52,900 --> 00:31:53,860
- No, it won't.
- Yeah.
686
00:31:53,970 --> 00:31:55,310
- People will still find ways.
- Yeah.
687
00:31:55,410 --> 00:31:59,100
So it's not going to work, it's
actually not going to work.
688
00:31:59,210 --> 00:32:01,590
- There's no direct push
from government
689
00:32:01,690 --> 00:32:04,410
to have to explore
these topics.
690
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,210
If there was a need for a law
to be in place
691
00:32:07,310 --> 00:32:08,970
for there to be an age block,
692
00:32:09,070 --> 00:32:11,070
that means there was an issue.
693
00:32:11,170 --> 00:32:13,450
And that means the issue has
been long going on
694
00:32:13,550 --> 00:32:14,930
that hasn't been tackled.
695
00:32:15,030 --> 00:32:17,410
And so therefore somebody's
missed a beat with that one.
696
00:32:19,030 --> 00:32:21,310
Producer: Do you think parents
will see age verification
697
00:32:21,410 --> 00:32:22,930
as a good thing 'cause now they
won't have to talk
698
00:32:23,030 --> 00:32:24,030
to their kids about porn?
699
00:32:24,140 --> 00:32:25,410
That is exactly
the fucking problem.
700
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,760
No, society cannot abdicate
this issue.
701
00:32:28,860 --> 00:32:31,140
No, any parent who
loves their child
702
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,690
should not be going, "oh,
I can just leave it
703
00:32:33,790 --> 00:32:35,380
"to that age verification thing
704
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,140
"and I'll never...", oh my
fucking God,
705
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:42,660
no, no, do not abdicate
your responsibility
706
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:48,830
to educate on what sex is
and therefore what porn is.
707
00:32:48,930 --> 00:32:50,550
- By the time young people
come to me,
708
00:32:50,660 --> 00:32:53,790
they're 16, it's almost like
the last opportunity
709
00:32:53,900 --> 00:32:58,860
education has in order to really
shape who they're going to be.
710
00:32:58,970 --> 00:33:00,830
That curriculum needs to change
711
00:33:00,930 --> 00:33:02,970
and needs to incorporate things
such as porn.
712
00:33:03,070 --> 00:33:06,210
It's one of those sad truths
that we need to understand that,
713
00:33:06,310 --> 00:33:08,970
you know, our children are
accessing porn,
714
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,480
so why not tackle it and
address it?
715
00:33:14,790 --> 00:33:17,140
[overlapping chatter]
716
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:18,690
Narrator: But while we're trying
to understand
717
00:33:18,790 --> 00:33:22,070
how the porn revolution
could be affecting us...
718
00:33:22,170 --> 00:33:26,590
..the industry is racing ahead,
breaking new frontiers,
719
00:33:26,690 --> 00:33:29,520
pushing sexual fantasy
in new ways.
720
00:33:30,830 --> 00:33:32,590
- I need you guys
to be quiet, please.
721
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,240
Alright, so let's start rolling
video and sound, please.
722
00:33:36,340 --> 00:33:38,690
- We are rolling. Good?
- Mm-hm.
723
00:33:38,790 --> 00:33:40,070
Yes.
724
00:33:40,170 --> 00:33:41,280
- Action.
725
00:33:44,450 --> 00:33:46,070
Welcome home, honey.
726
00:33:46,170 --> 00:33:48,210
Did you have a good day
at the office?
727
00:33:48,310 --> 00:33:49,450
- And cut.
728
00:33:49,550 --> 00:33:52,240
- The big difference between
a normal porn scene
729
00:33:52,340 --> 00:33:53,900
and a virtual reality porn,
730
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,900
you feel that you
are inside the scene.
731
00:33:57,690 --> 00:33:59,620
- Action.
732
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:01,480
Take a seat
in your favourite chair
733
00:34:01,590 --> 00:34:02,970
and let me get you a drink.
734
00:34:05,930 --> 00:34:07,720
- You are not a
spectator any more,
735
00:34:07,830 --> 00:34:08,860
you are there.
736
00:34:08,970 --> 00:34:10,720
- Action.
737
00:34:10,830 --> 00:34:12,790
- You are having sex with your
favourite porn star.
738
00:34:12,900 --> 00:34:17,790
That's something that
no way you can do before.
739
00:34:17,900 --> 00:34:21,590
Narrator: Virtual reality has
been around for decades,
740
00:34:21,690 --> 00:34:26,140
but it's only now that it's
starting to become widely used,
741
00:34:26,240 --> 00:34:29,000
and pornography is helping to
drive that.
742
00:34:29,100 --> 00:34:32,100
[soft music]
743
00:34:38,970 --> 00:34:43,030
- Right now, I can see there's a
video called 'Pin Up Slut',
744
00:34:43,140 --> 00:34:45,860
and then the video started...
745
00:34:45,970 --> 00:34:48,760
..and I'm in front of a door,
I'm knocking on the door
746
00:34:48,860 --> 00:34:50,170
and so is a first person view.
747
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,070
So it feels like it's me
doing this.
748
00:34:53,070 --> 00:34:54,210
Welcome home, honey.
749
00:34:54,310 --> 00:34:56,380
Did you have a good day
at the office?
750
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:58,660
- She's opened the door.
751
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,240
She's giving me a drink,
it looks like whisky.
752
00:35:01,340 --> 00:35:02,900
Here's your drink, honey.
753
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:07,100
- So this is the kind of five,
six minute story part
754
00:35:07,210 --> 00:35:09,620
which, if I want,
I can fast forward.
755
00:35:12,830 --> 00:35:14,690
I'm moving my head around,
I can look around.
756
00:35:14,790 --> 00:35:17,000
I can't move physically.
757
00:35:17,100 --> 00:35:19,000
The male point of view
videos are filmed
758
00:35:19,100 --> 00:35:21,520
where the man is lying
or sitting,
759
00:35:21,620 --> 00:35:23,550
and the female is moving around.
760
00:35:27,070 --> 00:35:29,410
So as I'm sitting now
on the couch here,
761
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:31,240
I'm basically sitting
in the same position
762
00:35:31,340 --> 00:35:32,480
as the man in the video is.
763
00:35:32,590 --> 00:35:34,030
[smacking sound]
- Ah, one.
764
00:35:34,140 --> 00:35:36,310
- So when the man experiences
something...
765
00:35:37,070 --> 00:35:38,520
[smacking sound]
Two.
766
00:35:38,620 --> 00:35:42,100
..it does look like, at least,
that it's me experiencing that.
767
00:35:43,170 --> 00:35:45,000
[smacking continues with
woman groaning]
768
00:35:45,100 --> 00:35:46,310
Er, yes.
769
00:35:47,830 --> 00:35:49,970
- And cut, perfect, nice, OK.
770
00:35:50,070 --> 00:35:53,520
- It's much more immersive,
it's much more realistic.
771
00:35:53,620 --> 00:35:56,340
Sorry stud, it will
never happen again.
772
00:35:56,450 --> 00:35:59,070
We're going to do
a little bit of BJ,
773
00:35:59,170 --> 00:36:02,660
then we'll go to boob job,
then reverse cowgirl.
774
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:04,280
Producer: What's happening now?
775
00:36:04,380 --> 00:36:08,790
So now she's in front of me,
she's lifting up her skirt.
776
00:36:10,720 --> 00:36:12,520
We've almost got to
the part where
777
00:36:12,620 --> 00:36:14,030
we're going to start
getting undressed.
778
00:36:14,140 --> 00:36:17,480
So now, she's started
to perform oral sex
779
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:22,900
and she looks like she's
enjoying it.
780
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:31,030
[woman moaning]
781
00:36:31,140 --> 00:36:35,380
Narrator: Errol is a tech
entrepreneur working in VR.
782
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:39,070
He began his career making games
and interactive experiences,
783
00:36:39,170 --> 00:36:41,620
but has been lured by
the potential
784
00:36:41,720 --> 00:36:44,210
of Virtual Reality porn.
785
00:36:44,310 --> 00:36:49,660
- 95% of all VR-related searches
are to do with VR porn.
786
00:36:52,620 --> 00:36:53,790
Producer: So what's all this?
787
00:36:53,900 --> 00:36:57,520
- So, these are
our VRotica headsets,
788
00:36:57,620 --> 00:36:59,900
it's an all in one VR headset,
789
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,140
but also the main selling
point obviously
790
00:37:02,240 --> 00:37:04,860
is that you have your
adult videos in here.
791
00:37:04,970 --> 00:37:07,030
The only reason we took a deep
dive into this
792
00:37:07,140 --> 00:37:09,860
was when we kind of become more
aware of the numbers
793
00:37:09,970 --> 00:37:13,030
and how big actually porn
was over here.
794
00:37:13,140 --> 00:37:14,520
When we get an order online,
795
00:37:14,620 --> 00:37:16,340
this is where we prepare them.
796
00:37:16,450 --> 00:37:18,930
We package them and
send them from here.
797
00:37:19,030 --> 00:37:20,930
It's a bit, I suppose,
like those stories you hear
798
00:37:21,030 --> 00:37:22,930
with the first days of Apple,
799
00:37:23,030 --> 00:37:25,830
with Wozniak and Steve Jobs
working out of their garage.
800
00:37:25,930 --> 00:37:27,450
It is a bit like that,
I suppose.
801
00:37:28,690 --> 00:37:29,790
The people are worried that,
802
00:37:29,900 --> 00:37:32,970
if it completely replaces
human interaction,
803
00:37:33,070 --> 00:37:35,100
people will stop having sex
with real people.
804
00:37:35,210 --> 00:37:37,660
But it's not for me
to judge basically,
805
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:39,620
I mean, what people are
going to do, so...
806
00:37:39,720 --> 00:37:42,380
[woman moaning]
807
00:37:43,930 --> 00:37:45,140
There's a demand for it,
808
00:37:45,240 --> 00:37:48,030
and it's not dangerous,
it doesn't hurt anyone,
809
00:37:48,140 --> 00:37:49,720
it doesn't harm
anyone immediately.
810
00:37:49,830 --> 00:37:51,590
If there are repercussions
for that,
811
00:37:51,690 --> 00:37:53,310
then obviously
it's a bigger issue
812
00:37:53,410 --> 00:37:55,170
than just me selling a headset.
813
00:37:56,410 --> 00:37:58,030
[smacking sounds]
- Oh, my god.
814
00:37:58,140 --> 00:37:59,410
Producer: Is the video
still going?
815
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:01,210
Yes, it's a half hour video.
816
00:38:04,450 --> 00:38:07,240
Narrator: Jason needs to attract
a constant supply
817
00:38:07,340 --> 00:38:11,210
of young women who are willing
to do porn for the first time.
818
00:38:11,310 --> 00:38:13,340
His business model
depends on them.
819
00:38:15,210 --> 00:38:17,480
Today, he's waiting for
a 19-year-old
820
00:38:17,590 --> 00:38:19,620
to arrive from Connecticut.
821
00:38:19,720 --> 00:38:21,760
They've been messaging
for a year,
822
00:38:21,860 --> 00:38:24,340
but suddenly the conversation
has stopped.
823
00:38:25,620 --> 00:38:28,860
- The situation today is
we have a cancellation.
824
00:38:28,970 --> 00:38:31,760
The girl that was gonna be
flying in tonight
825
00:38:31,860 --> 00:38:34,970
has cancelled,
she's completely...
826
00:38:37,100 --> 00:38:40,790
..non-responsive, and I'm sure
will have some bullshit excuse.
827
00:38:40,900 --> 00:38:42,100
A little irritated, but...
828
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:45,930
..there's nothing
you can do really.
829
00:38:46,030 --> 00:38:47,410
"I'm literally so excited,
830
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:49,970
"I have like bubbly feelings,
ha, I can't wait."
831
00:38:50,070 --> 00:38:51,930
"It's going to be fun."
I said, "yeah."
832
00:38:52,030 --> 00:38:53,590
She said, "I'm so ready to go."
833
00:38:53,690 --> 00:38:57,380
Just normal talking about
her being excited and shit
834
00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,310
and all of a sudden
just crickets,
835
00:38:59,410 --> 00:39:01,030
you just hear crickets, nothing.
836
00:39:01,140 --> 00:39:02,930
[making beeping sounds]
837
00:39:03,030 --> 00:39:05,000
Producer: Why do you think
she isn't coming?
838
00:39:05,100 --> 00:39:06,720
Oh, I don't know. She just,
839
00:39:06,830 --> 00:39:08,970
I think she's just,
she's just nervous
840
00:39:09,070 --> 00:39:10,860
and just off in some
fantasy land
841
00:39:10,970 --> 00:39:13,170
and she doesn't have the courage
to follow through,
842
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:14,760
so she's just blown it off.
843
00:39:20,720 --> 00:39:25,070
Narrator: Jason says he wants to
make $60,000 a month -
844
00:39:25,170 --> 00:39:27,280
that's a tall order when
you're asking people
845
00:39:27,380 --> 00:39:30,100
to make a
life-changing decision.
846
00:39:30,210 --> 00:39:34,030
to have sex on camera
and let the world see it.
847
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:38,900
Producer: So there's been
a bit of a mix,
848
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:40,760
through which there's been
a few hurdles.
849
00:39:40,860 --> 00:39:42,070
- Par for the course, man.
850
00:39:42,170 --> 00:39:43,550
Like this is what I do,
851
00:39:43,660 --> 00:39:45,760
this is my fucking life
right now, like this is,
852
00:39:45,860 --> 00:39:49,450
like there's like, I'm not like
just trying things out,
853
00:39:49,550 --> 00:39:51,520
I'm not giving it
a good old shot,
854
00:39:51,620 --> 00:39:53,620
no, I'm fucking doing this shit.
855
00:39:53,720 --> 00:39:56,210
This is my
fucking life, period.
856
00:39:56,310 --> 00:39:57,790
I don't have kids,
I don't have a wife,
857
00:39:57,900 --> 00:39:59,860
I don't have nothing else,
you know, nothing,
858
00:39:59,970 --> 00:40:01,030
this is what I do.
859
00:40:03,340 --> 00:40:04,520
It's not going to stop me.
860
00:40:04,620 --> 00:40:07,590
It doesn't make me
like deterred at all.
861
00:40:07,690 --> 00:40:09,310
I'm fixated on building
this shit
862
00:40:09,410 --> 00:40:11,790
into something like
really, really, really big.
863
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:28,310
- So now,
I need to check if it's worked.
864
00:40:28,410 --> 00:40:30,550
So we received
an order overnight
865
00:40:30,660 --> 00:40:32,380
from a buyer from France.
866
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:36,590
Now , I'm just making sure
that everything's working fine
867
00:40:36,690 --> 00:40:38,760
before I send it out.
868
00:40:38,860 --> 00:40:40,590
Yep, just turn it off.
869
00:40:40,690 --> 00:40:42,930
I'm just going to put it in
bubble wrap.
870
00:41:16,140 --> 00:41:19,030
I have created the first sex
doll brothel of France.
871
00:41:20,550 --> 00:41:23,140
I am always curious about
new technology,
872
00:41:23,240 --> 00:41:24,380
about new business...
873
00:41:27,900 --> 00:41:32,100
..and when I see this - whoa! -
I think of the future.
874
00:41:32,210 --> 00:41:35,620
We also provide
the VR experience.
875
00:41:35,720 --> 00:41:38,620
They just have to put
it on their head
876
00:41:38,720 --> 00:41:41,900
and live in other world.
877
00:41:42,690 --> 00:41:44,690
It's totally incredible.
878
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:52,380
Producer: Who's this?
879
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:53,550
- This is Sarah.
880
00:41:55,100 --> 00:41:56,520
This is Sophia.
881
00:41:56,620 --> 00:41:59,480
Producer: Why is it necessary to
have porn as well as the dolls?
882
00:41:59,590 --> 00:42:02,550
The dolls is quite strange,
it's new,
883
00:42:02,660 --> 00:42:07,310
so I think I have to provide
something to excite them.
884
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:10,030
How to explain but...
885
00:42:10,140 --> 00:42:11,210
Producer: To get them in
the mood.
886
00:42:11,310 --> 00:42:14,140
Yes, to get them in the mood,
oh yeah, totally right.
887
00:42:14,240 --> 00:42:15,760
Producer: Because the dolls are
a bit strange.
888
00:42:17,140 --> 00:42:18,380
The dolls are new.
889
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:21,410
The face is realistic.
890
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:26,310
The skin is very soft,
it's like human,
891
00:42:26,410 --> 00:42:30,070
but the body,
it's phantasmagoric.
892
00:42:30,170 --> 00:42:31,340
Producer: Phantasmagoric?
893
00:42:31,450 --> 00:42:34,170
Yeah, it's a good word?
894
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,340
Producer: Very good word.
- Yeah.
895
00:42:36,450 --> 00:42:39,480
I advise everybody to
try it once.
896
00:42:41,140 --> 00:42:44,830
For now it's just metal
skeleton with plastic stuff.
897
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:49,070
So I think in the future,
898
00:42:49,170 --> 00:42:52,660
sex dolls will be more
like sex robots.
899
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:55,240
The doll will be intelligent,
900
00:42:55,340 --> 00:42:58,520
she can recognise you,
you can speak with her,
901
00:42:58,620 --> 00:43:01,620
she can do everything like
a real human.
902
00:43:04,070 --> 00:43:05,830
The new generation of people
903
00:43:05,930 --> 00:43:09,000
who are born with an iPhone
in the hand,
904
00:43:09,100 --> 00:43:10,970
for this kind of generation,
905
00:43:11,070 --> 00:43:12,590
it will be more normal.
906
00:43:12,690 --> 00:43:16,240
So I think in few years,
907
00:43:16,340 --> 00:43:18,590
when these people grow up,
908
00:43:18,690 --> 00:43:21,900
they will be
the next big customer base.
909
00:43:23,410 --> 00:43:27,760
For the business,
it will be heaven.
910
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:46,480
A new customer.
911
00:43:46,590 --> 00:43:48,930
- In a male-dominated
tech world,
912
00:43:49,030 --> 00:43:53,590
the support and the funding goes
to that area of sex tech,
913
00:43:53,690 --> 00:43:57,070
that is focused on driving us
further and further apart
914
00:43:57,170 --> 00:43:59,760
into our own little
virtual worlds.
915
00:43:59,860 --> 00:44:03,450
Versus the area I operate in,
which is about using technology
916
00:44:03,550 --> 00:44:06,550
to bring people closer together
in the real world.
917
00:44:06,660 --> 00:44:08,380
Which area do you think
918
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:11,070
is going to have
the most beneficial impact
919
00:44:11,170 --> 00:44:12,900
on the future of humanity?
920
00:44:15,930 --> 00:44:18,410
Narrator: Whatever new
technology catches on,
921
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:23,590
it's clear that porn is moving
fast and in new directions.
922
00:44:23,690 --> 00:44:26,030
It makes you wonder where
it's leading us
923
00:44:26,140 --> 00:44:28,410
and whether it's impossible to
control.
924
00:44:31,170 --> 00:44:34,170
[slow tempo music]
925
00:44:38,620 --> 00:44:39,930
Producer: Another city,
another apartment?
926
00:44:40,030 --> 00:44:42,210
Yeah, that's how it is.
927
00:44:44,380 --> 00:44:47,280
This was one guy's dream
to create this whole city.
928
00:44:47,380 --> 00:44:49,340
And everyone thought he was
fucking crazy.
929
00:44:49,450 --> 00:44:51,340
Isn't that amazing?
930
00:44:51,450 --> 00:44:54,550
This was a fucking desert,
this was nothing.
931
00:44:54,660 --> 00:44:58,620
I love human beings like that
who do shit like that.
932
00:44:59,690 --> 00:45:00,790
You know?
933
00:45:01,930 --> 00:45:03,930
I look at this as like a
fucking empire.
934
00:45:04,030 --> 00:45:05,480
I'm building it.
935
00:45:05,590 --> 00:45:08,860
Narrator: The speed that porn
has transformed the generation
936
00:45:08,970 --> 00:45:11,590
has shown us the enormous power
of the internet,
937
00:45:11,690 --> 00:45:15,790
and the scale of an industry
that is constantly evolving.
938
00:45:15,900 --> 00:45:18,070
But perhaps it tells us
something else?
939
00:45:18,170 --> 00:45:20,520
Something about us.
940
00:45:20,620 --> 00:45:23,340
The thing that drives
the demand for adult stuff
941
00:45:23,450 --> 00:45:27,100
is the actual drive in us
as human beings
942
00:45:27,210 --> 00:45:29,000
that keeps us fucking alive.
943
00:45:30,170 --> 00:45:32,140
It's basically the sex drive,
944
00:45:32,240 --> 00:45:35,310
so it's actually the life force
itself of human beings
945
00:45:35,410 --> 00:45:37,900
that is the demand
for this product.
946
00:45:40,380 --> 00:45:42,450
That shit will never stop.
947
00:45:42,550 --> 00:45:44,550
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