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Man: The one person
I really wouldn't want
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to find me watching porn,
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would be my wife
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because I really don't want
to hurt her.
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You know, I never ever wanted
to watch porn
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and hurt my wife
or have her feel betrayed,
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which is what pornography does
to a spouse.
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So in it's worst, on a bad day,
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it could be two
or three hours of bingeing.
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You know, just twitter
and feasting on this buffet
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of two-minute videos,
just constantly diving into it.
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Which is why I class it
as an addiction.
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[upbeat music]
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Narrator: Porn.
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It's only ever
a mouse click away.
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Whoever you are,
wherever you are.
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No one needs to know
you're looking at it.
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And it's absolutely free.
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In Britain,
we've become so worried,
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there are now plans
to block under 18's
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from watching online porn.
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Man: Yes.
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[camera shutter clicks]
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Yes, I know you're coming,
you're coming, you're coming.
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Narrator:
Since this program started,
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one minute ago,
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more than 50,000 people
have gone onto
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the world's biggest
Internet porn site,
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Pornhub.
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Producer: How often would you
use porn now?
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- Sometimes two times a day,
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up too maybe, easily, probably
minimum five times a week.
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Woman: It's hard to like,
get into bed
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with your phone in your hand
and then not look at porn.
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- Yeah.
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Narrator: Pornhub alone
receives 92 million visitors
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a day.
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That's like the combined
population
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of Spain and Uganda logging on.
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Woman: Big Tit Anal Milfs.
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Narrator: It's an industry
that's worth billions.
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Man: If I didn't think
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that I could make $50
to $60,000, a month,
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if I didn't think
I could do that,
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I wouldn't be doing this.
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Narrator:
The genie is out of the bottle.
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Man: The Internet was made
for porn.
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We brought porn to the masses.
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- There is more porn
flooding the earth
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than ever before
in the history of mankind.
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Narrator:
We'll explore how we got here.
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How porn became free,
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and how it exploded
across the world.
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- I just can't get my head round
that 11, 12, 13-year-olds
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are watching porn.
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- I feel like I was fucked up
because I was watching porn
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at like 12 years old.
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Narrator:
We'll also try to understand
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if porn is beginning
to change you.
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Because whether you want to
admit it or not,
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you are the people watching it.
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Have fun. Rolling and action.
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Narrator: There is a revolution
going on in the world of porn.
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19-year-old Gia is six months
into her porn career.
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It's a job she's aspired to
since she was just 12.
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Gia: I do anal, I do girl girl,
I do boy girl,
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I do boy boy girl.
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I'm pretty open.
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I don't really have a line
right now.
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I'm reaching for the stars.
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Narrator: The days of soft focus
erotic fantasy,
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are long gone.
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The kind of porn Gia makes,
was once labelled extreme.
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Today it's everywhere.
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You can watch it
on your smart phone.
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So in a world where it's easier
than ever before
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to watch extreme content,
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it's time to ask...
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..is porn beginning
to change us?
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[upbeat music]
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This is 'Cam Girl,
The New Movie'.
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'Latin Teens',
'Anal Newbies Number Eight',
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'Rocko's Hard Academy
Part Four Goes Live'.
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'Anal Darling Two',
'DP Bandits',
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'Hooked Up Hotshots',
'Double Anal Addiction'.
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'Sloppy Anal Babe'.
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'Young Butt Sex Nymphos'.
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Anal.
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Everything's anal.
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'Anal Depraved'.
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I don't got to watch it.
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[laughs]
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You know, but yeah I,
sometimes do see a little,
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sometimes things
I have to question.
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Narrator:
This is the head office
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of porn production company,
Evil Angel.
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When the company started out
30 years ago,
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it broke new ground.
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Making explicit content
with a focus on anal sex.
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But as porn has exploded
across the Internet.
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The boundaries have been pushed
further and further.
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Today you will find
this kind of porn everywhere.
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It's industry-standard.
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Man: My name is Adam Grayson
I am the chief financial officer
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of Evil Angel.
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I don't take what we do
for a living all that seriously.
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I mean we are
in the pants around ankles
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masturbation business.
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So this is our content team.
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The wandering souls
who have to watch porn
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all day, every day.
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[God Save The Queen plays]
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Producer: That's the,
that's God Save The Queen.
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Well I did that for you.
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[laughs]
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This was given to us by,
given to me
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by an Evil Angel super fan.
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As an example of his thanks.
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For all the fine service
that we provide.
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I have to review,
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probably close to 80%
of everything
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that comes through our doors.
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It's a lot.
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A rough guess would be anywhere
from like,
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two to six hours
of content a day.
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I've been here 11 years now.
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Man: There are now 103
Evil Angel movies
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being viewed right now
or being downloaded as we speak.
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So, October first
we have 'Anal Investigation'
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that is an interesting title.
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Narrator: Evil Angel's owner
is John Stagliano.
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John: 'Anal Gaping Nurses'.
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Woman: Just been.
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I haven't heard of that title
before.
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Narrator:
He created a type of porn
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that came to define the company.
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Man: Oh, wow.
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Oh my god. Oh God.
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Yes please.
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- In 1994,
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maybe it was January of '95,
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AVN came up with the name
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for this first person POV
kind of thing that I was doing
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in Buttman.
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And they called it gonzo.
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Man: Yes more, bend over
just a little bit more.
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Which they took from,
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what was used to describe
Hunter Thompson's writing.
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Where he would interview
a person
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or go to Las Vegas
with that person or something
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and he would talk about
his personal reactions
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to the person
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and he would be part
of the story.
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- Can you take that off?
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Narrator: This amateur
point of view style
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is what dominates porn today.
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Man: Can I touch?
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This is where
all the real magic happens.
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All the ones and zeros,
this is all the video library.
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Storing a lot of video.
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This is the heart
of the monster, if you will.
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It's about half a petabyte,
maybe a little more.
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600 terabytes,
something like that.
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A petabyte is a 1024 terabytes.
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So, more than half a petabyte,
I believe at this point.
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It's a lot of porn.
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Narrator: It would take you
about five solid months
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to watch all
of Evil Angel's content.
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But it's minuscule
if you compare it
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to the world's biggest
free site, Pornhub.
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The content uploaded
to Pornhub in five months,
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would take you 48 years
to watch.
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Producer: Tracy would you watch
porn on your own quite a lot?
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Yeah.
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If we go on either
of our phones,
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if you go on to like Safari,
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it says the most viewed things
that you look at
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and mine's Pornhub.
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- And yours is that other one.
- Triple XX.
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- Every time you touch
your phone,
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that's, you're kind of
associated with,
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like a dog and a bone,
like they hear the food
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and you start salivating.
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Like every time
you touch your phone,
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you're like,
this is what brings me pleasure
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and it's hard to then like,
get into bed
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with your phone in your hand
and not then look at porn.
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- Yeah.
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Producer: So when you first
looked at online porn,
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do you remember what kind of sex
you were seeing?
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- Yes, so I remember.
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I remember the video,
I could tell you,
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I couldn't tell you the name
of the actor or anything,
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- You know the video?
- I remember the video.
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Full, straight up.
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And this was the most
interesting film
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was that when I was watching it,
it was actually an anal video.
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I didn't know it was anal.
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To me that was normal.
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So it's...
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Producer: What do you mean,
you didn't know it?
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What do you mean by that?
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You were confused
by what you seeing?
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- I wouldn't say I was confused,
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I just thought that was sex,
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so like, to me, like,
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I didn't realise he had it
in her arse, pretty much.
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Like I thought that was...
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- Normal.
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- Yeah, I didn't think,
it was like, you know,
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but yeah,
I thought that was sex.
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Fallon is our photo editor,
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she is in charge
of selecting imagery
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for everything.
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So she gets to look at photos
all day.
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Until her eyes bleed.
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- I'm choosing
hard-core photographs,
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a set of five,
to represent scenes.
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I'm picking whatever is closest
to the camera.
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Whatever looks most obscene,
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and I have to think like a guy.
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As to like what would they want
to see immediately,
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to judge, oh, this is a scene
worth buying, and downloading.
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Narrator: Trying to predict
our tastes
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or even influence them,
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is at the heart
of the Internet porn industry.
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What you might not realise
is that when you visit
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big free porn sites,
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they keep a very close eye
on what you search for,
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what you click on,
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and even the point you skip to
in a video.
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Then they use
artificial intelligence
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and clever algorithms
to offer you new videos
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based on what they think
you might like.
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It's a bit like online shopping.
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Retailers typically feed
your purchase history
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into a recommendation algorithm.
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So if you just bought
a bottle of suntan lotion,
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they might try and sell you
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a new bikini.
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Porn is no different.
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The masses of customer data
collected by the free sites
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is also fed back to producers.
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So they can make more
of what is popular.
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And that can be surprising.
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So with millions of eyeballs
on Internet porn every day.
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It makes you wonder,
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who's really making the choice
about what porn we watch?
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Us or them?
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Six months into her porn career,
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Gia is heading to a shoot
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with one of Evil Angel's
most prolific directors.
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Gia: I am going
to Jonni Darkko's apartment
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to do anal.
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We'll take pictures,
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we'll maybe do a tease,
probably.
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And then we'll just
get into the sex.
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This only, I think,
my third anal scene this month.
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That's what Evil Angel's about.
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Man: That's great.
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Twist it back to me
a little more, sugar,
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right there, right there, good.
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Good, good.
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Beautiful, beautiful.
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And just nice and [sighs].
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[soft music]
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There we go.
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Beautiful. Good.
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Right there.
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Narrator: Jonni Darkko shoots
and performs in his videos.
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Which he himself describes
as extreme.
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Jonni: Nice and easy.
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There you go.
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Now come, bring both knees
kind of up a little bit more.
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Narrator: Gia is 19.
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Jonni is 53.
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- Now, lean back
and grab your booty.
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It's a movie called
'I Love Anal'.
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We'll see how crazy it gets.
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That's a nice little move there,
girl.
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Following your hands, I love it.
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Good.
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Coming up to your face
turnaround, find me.
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Boom, nice.
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Perfect.
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Go, warmup
take this upstairs.
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If you guys want to shoot
a little bit of this upstairs,
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you're cool,
you can do that too,
289
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and then,
but we're gonna start soon,
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probably in the next
half an hour.
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Go grab that.
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Yep cool.
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Everything good?
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Grab your shoes.
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Yeah, come upstairs
and we can kind of...
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It's kind of, a little better
up here.
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What's the damn cat
doing up here.
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Producer: So Jonni, can you
tell me what is actually
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going to happen in the scene?
300
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- We're going to shoot
a boy girl anal scene,
301
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nothing, I mean,
we're just kinda keep it simple,
302
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but it's some of its POV,
so it's point of view, you know,
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so people can get an idea
of what it's like
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to look down at that and that.
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And the whole thing.
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If you guys want to shoot
a little bit of that, you can.
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[laughs]
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Producer: We'll catch you
later on.
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- One of the big trends
in the porn industry
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is to show women looking shocked
and maybe sometimes scared.
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But, I personally like to add in
photos like this one
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of her smiling
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'cause me personally,
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I would like to see
at least one image out of five
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where the female
is actually enjoying herself.
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And not scared.
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I've been here
since March fourth,
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it's been a very eye opening
experience.
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In many, many ways.
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[tense music]
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Because a lot of this
is really hard-core,
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really obscene sex.
323
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Narrator: It was clear Fallon
had more to say.
324
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But the open plan office
325
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was making things
a little difficult for her.
326
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Most of us spend no more
than 10 minutes
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on a single visit to the world's
biggest porn site.
328
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But for some, minutes
can soon turn into hours.
329
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Producer: How often would you
use porn now?
330
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- I'd probably say recently,
a lot.
331
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Like five times a week maybe.
332
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- I'd probably, sometimes,
two times a day,
333
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up to maybe, easily, probably,
minimum five times a week.
334
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It's probably got to the point
335
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where literally spending an hour
or an hour and a half
336
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to find that perfect video.
337
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Because you've seen so many,
you've seen them all
338
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and it's now boring.
339
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Man: It's hard to go without it.
340
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It's like, for example,
341
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sometimes when go on holiday,
342
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you can't get porn on the phone
343
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because some countries
I've been in,
344
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you just can't find anywhere.
345
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- When you're in Korea,
it's really difficult for you.
346
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- 'Cause it's blocked.
347
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But it is,
if you're in Thailand
348
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you can't access porn
on your phone.
349
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- Or over 18
if you're not connected.
350
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Producer: So where do you think
it becomes something
351
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that you're in control of,
352
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or porn on the Internet
is sort of in control of you?
353
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- I think it is in control
of us.
354
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- Hey guys!
355
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Woman: Hi!
356
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- You alright love?
- Yeah.
357
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- Hey!
358
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You alright baby?
359
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- Have you had a good day?
- Yeah.
360
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- Hey darling.
361
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What you got?
362
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Producer: You guys have been
through quite a lot?
363
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- Yeah.
364
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Producer: Would you say
you're happy at the moment?
365
00:17:47,140 --> 00:17:48,760
- Hey, shh, shh, shh.
366
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- Yeah.
- Our marriage definitely.
367
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Yeah, best it's ever been.
368
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Especially in the last year
or so.
369
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I think the good thing
370
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is that everything
we went through,
371
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because we've come out of it
and its freedom now
372
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I think it's actually drawn us
even closer, hasn't it?
373
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- Yeah.
374
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- So I would probably say
that we're closer now
375
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than we've ever been before.
376
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Even before all of this happened
377
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I think we're definitely tighter
then we've ever been.
378
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Producer: I mean is it fair
to say,
379
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Rob's a recovering porn addict?
380
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- Recovered.
381
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I would say. Yeah.
382
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So he's not...
383
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He was in a period of recovering
I guess,
384
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but I would say recovered now.
385
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- You know, I haven't watched
pornography now
386
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for as long as I can remember.
387
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So I'd say that we are,
I am recovered, not recovering.
388
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Producer: What did it look like
on a daily basis
389
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when you are in
the throes of porn addiction?
390
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- So in it's worst,
on a bad day,
391
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it could be two or three hours
of bingeing.
392
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Feasting on this buffet
of two minute videos
393
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just constantly diving into it.
394
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I was trying to stop
at all times
395
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because I really don't want
to hurt her,
396
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whether it's the man
or the woman,
397
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the other one
does feel betrayed.
398
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Producer: Did you feel betrayed,
Lydia?
399
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- Yeah. Because it's not me.
400
00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,280
He's finding comfort
in someone else.
401
00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:04,900
Yeah.
402
00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:06,760
Producer: Did it make you
feel less?
403
00:19:06,860 --> 00:19:08,690
- Yeah, it makes you feel
like you're not enough.
404
00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:11,210
I mean, it's hard
405
00:19:11,310 --> 00:19:13,720
because obviously...
406
00:19:13,830 --> 00:19:15,140
Her dummy's over there,
by the way.
407
00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:19,790
I've had three kids
in quite a small space of time
408
00:19:19,900 --> 00:19:21,070
and obviously
that does affect you,
409
00:19:21,170 --> 00:19:23,790
it changes your body,
you change your emotions,
410
00:19:23,900 --> 00:19:25,100
your hormones, everything,
411
00:19:25,210 --> 00:19:27,310
so I felt like,
it's partly my fault
412
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because I wasn't giving him
what he needed.
413
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Producer: Rob, when you were at
your most extreme
414
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of watching porn,
415
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would you ever try
and make excuses
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to find the time
to go and watch it?
417
00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:42,280
- I remember time
where say,
418
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I've been driving around quoting
jobs for my business.
419
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Producer: You're a painter,
decorator?
420
00:19:46,660 --> 00:19:48,590
- Yeah I run
a decorating company.
421
00:19:48,690 --> 00:19:52,720
And I would find myself
coming home from that quote
422
00:19:52,830 --> 00:19:55,480
and then kind of feeling
that urge
423
00:19:55,590 --> 00:19:58,450
and knowing Lydia will be home
in about an hour
424
00:19:58,550 --> 00:19:59,450
from the school run,
425
00:19:59,550 --> 00:20:01,140
so if I get home quickly now,
426
00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:03,410
I mean this is like
a year-and-a-half ago,
427
00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:06,760
but I would put my foot down
to get home quickly
428
00:20:06,860 --> 00:20:09,140
so I can have that time
429
00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:12,140
and that freedom, if you like,
to be able to just view porn
430
00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:13,140
at my leisure
431
00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:16,660
and feast on the opportunity
of that pornography.
432
00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:18,340
Producer: Do you think
that some of the things
433
00:20:18,450 --> 00:20:20,480
that you wanna do,
434
00:20:20,590 --> 00:20:23,070
are influenced by what you see
in porn?
435
00:20:23,170 --> 00:20:25,590
- Yeah because you learn
new things on porn.
436
00:20:25,690 --> 00:20:27,930
So like, there'd be some stuff
that obviously,
437
00:20:28,030 --> 00:20:29,030
I wouldn't have a clue about,
438
00:20:29,140 --> 00:20:31,000
and then I've seen like,
a porn video
439
00:20:31,100 --> 00:20:33,240
and I'm like,
oh, that looks good.
440
00:20:33,340 --> 00:20:36,790
Obviously that influences you
to try different things.
441
00:20:36,900 --> 00:20:38,860
- There's being forceful,
442
00:20:38,970 --> 00:20:40,590
so like, for example,
you might just see,
443
00:20:40,690 --> 00:20:42,930
see a guy sort of,
throw himself on a girl,
444
00:20:43,030 --> 00:20:45,900
and she might like it,
or he does stuff like,
445
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controls her, sort of,
in a really aggressive way.
446
00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:51,410
I mean I like,
when I'm watching porn,
447
00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:53,100
I like slapping
and obviously choking,
448
00:20:53,210 --> 00:20:54,310
I think it's quite a norm.
449
00:20:54,410 --> 00:20:58,660
I think it is quite a norm.
It happens in porn all the time.
450
00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:01,140
And I think girls
pick up on it, as well,
451
00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:03,210
and I think maybe
because maybe girls watch porn,
452
00:21:03,310 --> 00:21:06,000
you always see the girl
enjoying it and liking it
453
00:21:06,100 --> 00:21:07,550
so it's definitely something
that's big.
454
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Producer: Now we're out
of the office,
455
00:21:14,410 --> 00:21:15,690
what do you really think
of the photos
456
00:21:15,790 --> 00:21:16,930
that you're editing?
457
00:21:17,030 --> 00:21:18,590
- They're fucking disgusting.
458
00:21:19,340 --> 00:21:21,690
They are abhorrent.
459
00:21:21,790 --> 00:21:23,280
And a lot of these photographs,
460
00:21:23,380 --> 00:21:27,720
you can tell just by looking
at a female performer's eyes,
461
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who's enjoying it and who's not.
462
00:21:30,860 --> 00:21:32,860
You can tell the ones
that are empowered by it,
463
00:21:32,970 --> 00:21:35,550
they're like, fuck yeah,
this is my life,
464
00:21:35,660 --> 00:21:37,970
this is, you know, I own this.
465
00:21:38,070 --> 00:21:40,140
This is my body and I can do
whatever I want with it,
466
00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:41,790
and then there's other girls
that unfortunately,
467
00:21:41,900 --> 00:21:43,170
just, even some guys,
468
00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:45,240
that look like,
what the fuck am I doing here?
469
00:21:45,340 --> 00:21:47,310
Or, I really need to pay rent.
470
00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:52,970
I've always been a huge fan
of pornography
471
00:21:53,070 --> 00:21:54,410
all the way back to college.
472
00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:57,410
Which was part of the reason why
I was so intrigued
473
00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:59,900
to work for Evil Angel
and the porn industry
474
00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:03,970
because I felt like
it would be celebrating life.
475
00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:08,620
I took these photographs
a couple of years ago,
476
00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:12,690
they were friend of a friend.
477
00:22:12,790 --> 00:22:16,210
I just wanted to capture
the authenticity
478
00:22:16,310 --> 00:22:18,100
of their lovemaking.
479
00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:21,030
It was very nice.
480
00:22:21,140 --> 00:22:22,310
[laughs]
481
00:22:22,410 --> 00:22:23,860
Probably sounds strange
to most people
482
00:22:23,970 --> 00:22:26,100
but it was very freeing
483
00:22:26,210 --> 00:22:27,480
and then I thought,
you know,
484
00:22:27,590 --> 00:22:30,070
I can definitely see myself
doing this for a living.
485
00:22:31,830 --> 00:22:35,310
I never watched degrading porn.
486
00:22:35,410 --> 00:22:36,720
I never sought that out,
487
00:22:36,830 --> 00:22:39,030
I didn't really know
it existed.
488
00:22:40,070 --> 00:22:40,970
I knew it existed,
489
00:22:41,070 --> 00:22:43,210
I just didn't know
how bad it was.
490
00:22:46,140 --> 00:22:48,760
That particular genre of porn,
491
00:22:48,860 --> 00:22:51,410
tells today's youth
492
00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,690
that sex is only to be enjoyed
by the man.
493
00:22:54,790 --> 00:22:57,000
He is supposed to
cum in my face,
494
00:22:57,100 --> 00:22:58,790
he's supposed to slap me,
495
00:22:58,900 --> 00:23:01,030
and manhandle me
496
00:23:01,140 --> 00:23:04,790
and this is how we should expect
to be treated.
497
00:23:08,170 --> 00:23:12,410
I don't think that this type
of pornography
498
00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:14,720
should be produced.
499
00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,070
JONNI: How are you, you gotta
get your stuff together.
500
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[indistinct chatter]
501
00:23:28,620 --> 00:23:29,660
[laughs]
502
00:23:32,140 --> 00:23:33,830
Producer: How did it go?
503
00:23:33,930 --> 00:23:34,970
- Awesome.
504
00:23:36,860 --> 00:23:40,760
- Nice meeting you.
- Bye, thank you.
505
00:23:42,620 --> 00:23:43,720
- Thank you.
506
00:23:45,410 --> 00:23:47,790
Narrator: Gia grew up
in a churchgoing family.
507
00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:52,410
She left her hometown in Ohio
to come to LA.
508
00:23:53,860 --> 00:23:55,900
[soft music]
509
00:24:00,340 --> 00:24:03,240
She's been signed to one
of the industry's top agents
510
00:24:03,340 --> 00:24:07,690
and is already earning
between $4000 and $6000 a week.
511
00:24:07,790 --> 00:24:10,070
She's shot almost 100 scenes.
512
00:24:12,450 --> 00:24:13,590
Producer:
Now you've done so many...
513
00:24:13,690 --> 00:24:14,620
- Yeah,
514
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:16,830
..does it feel like
just kind of, pretty normal
515
00:24:16,930 --> 00:24:18,030
a normal day's work?
516
00:24:18,140 --> 00:24:19,790
- Yeah that was a
normal day's work.
517
00:24:19,900 --> 00:24:21,620
It was pretty good.
518
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:26,790
I put these little like
white balls in my butt today,
519
00:24:26,900 --> 00:24:29,100
and I actually
haven't done that before.
520
00:24:29,210 --> 00:24:30,480
So that was fun.
521
00:24:30,590 --> 00:24:32,000
They're like ball pit balls,
522
00:24:32,100 --> 00:24:34,070
like that you like jump into
like, a ball pit.
523
00:24:36,140 --> 00:24:37,280
Producer: They're quite big.
524
00:24:37,380 --> 00:24:38,930
- I think they're little small.
525
00:24:39,030 --> 00:24:41,000
I don't know,
It was like a...
526
00:24:42,170 --> 00:24:43,310
Producer: I mean a lot of people
would think,
527
00:24:43,410 --> 00:24:45,380
that's quite sort of crazy.
528
00:24:46,860 --> 00:24:50,310
- Like, so, no.
529
00:24:50,410 --> 00:24:51,860
I think it's get crazy.
530
00:24:51,970 --> 00:24:54,100
It might be a little, like,
taboo like,
531
00:24:54,210 --> 00:24:55,970
not everyone's doing it but...
532
00:24:59,900 --> 00:25:01,930
Producer: Does that then
like feed into
533
00:25:02,030 --> 00:25:03,900
your personal life?
534
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,030
- Yeah, yeah, like I feel...
535
00:25:06,140 --> 00:25:07,900
Producer: Does porn sex
and non-porn sex sort of...
536
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:09,690
- Intertwine, yeah.
537
00:25:09,790 --> 00:25:12,240
I feel like my sexuality
538
00:25:12,340 --> 00:25:16,380
is just like so,
so much broader,
539
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,590
like it's just porn has opened,
540
00:25:18,690 --> 00:25:21,310
actually doing porn,
has opened up so many like,
541
00:25:21,410 --> 00:25:22,720
sexual doors for me,
542
00:25:22,830 --> 00:25:24,030
that I didn't even know
that I...
543
00:25:24,140 --> 00:25:25,590
Or lines that I didn't
even know that like,
544
00:25:25,690 --> 00:25:27,210
I wanted to cross, like.
545
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,000
Yeah. Definitely.
546
00:25:32,790 --> 00:25:34,030
- When I first
got in the business.
547
00:25:34,140 --> 00:25:37,030
It was like people who came
to LA to be an actor
548
00:25:37,140 --> 00:25:40,170
or this, that and,
kind of got waylaid
549
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,450
and kinda fell
into the business.
550
00:25:42,550 --> 00:25:46,690
But now, with the advent
of the Internet,
551
00:25:46,790 --> 00:25:52,690
it's more you can see girls
desire to be in porn,
552
00:25:52,790 --> 00:25:54,310
that's their goal.
553
00:25:54,410 --> 00:25:57,280
They research it, they watch it,
they you know,
554
00:25:57,380 --> 00:26:02,140
they're not falling into it,
that is what they aspire to do.
555
00:26:03,550 --> 00:26:05,860
For me I like to sit down
and talk to them
556
00:26:05,970 --> 00:26:07,520
and I wanna know like,
557
00:26:07,620 --> 00:26:10,030
besides that they're
business minded,
558
00:26:10,140 --> 00:26:11,550
I want to know
that they're perverts.
559
00:26:11,660 --> 00:26:13,450
Because I want them
to be doing this
560
00:26:13,550 --> 00:26:15,280
because it's what
they really like to do,
561
00:26:15,380 --> 00:26:17,900
because they will last
much longer.
562
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:21,140
But when I talk to them,
yeah I'll do double vag,
563
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:22,760
I'll do ass to mouth,
564
00:26:22,860 --> 00:26:25,310
I'll do DP, ATM,
565
00:26:25,410 --> 00:26:27,720
I'll do, you know,
566
00:26:27,830 --> 00:26:29,620
cum swapping, all this,
all that,
567
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:30,660
and if the girl,
568
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:32,590
and I'm like,
have you done porn before?
569
00:26:32,690 --> 00:26:33,970
They say no, I just turned 18.
570
00:26:35,450 --> 00:26:37,480
[soft music]
571
00:26:43,310 --> 00:26:45,520
Gia: In school,
as soon as I hit puberty
572
00:26:45,620 --> 00:26:48,410
I was immediately like labelled
a whore,
573
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:50,930
and 'cause I had this big butt
574
00:26:51,030 --> 00:26:53,860
and like guys would literally
walk up to me in the hallway
575
00:26:53,970 --> 00:26:55,690
and just like smack it
or grab it.
576
00:26:55,790 --> 00:26:59,030
And I had so much anxiety,
I didn't know how to handle that
577
00:26:59,140 --> 00:27:00,900
so, I just accepted
that I was a whore,
578
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:02,280
like in eighth grade
579
00:27:02,380 --> 00:27:04,790
because that's what
everyone said.
580
00:27:04,900 --> 00:27:08,140
So, watching porn
during that time
581
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,520
made me feel like
I wasn't alone,
582
00:27:10,620 --> 00:27:14,790
and it made me feel like
it wasn't necessarily wrong
583
00:27:14,900 --> 00:27:16,900
to have sexual desires
584
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:20,000
and it wasn't necessarily wrong
to have sex.
585
00:27:22,030 --> 00:27:24,690
I really hated myself
for the longest time
586
00:27:24,790 --> 00:27:28,140
because like I wanted sex
all the time.
587
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:29,900
And that was wrong.
588
00:27:32,620 --> 00:27:34,100
Being in porn I just fit in,
589
00:27:34,210 --> 00:27:37,310
and everyone else like,
has the same like sexual desires
590
00:27:37,410 --> 00:27:39,340
and urges that I have.
591
00:27:39,450 --> 00:27:41,620
So it's kind of nice
to be around that.
592
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,140
Narrator: It's almost as if porn
has given Gia a way
593
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,170
to own her sexuality.
594
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:50,620
To reclaim it.
595
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:52,970
From the schoolkids
who used to taunt her.
596
00:27:55,340 --> 00:27:56,410
For now at least,
597
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,140
she's in a world
where she feels accepted.
598
00:28:01,210 --> 00:28:03,690
- Trying to think,
I remember the first time.
599
00:28:03,790 --> 00:28:04,830
- Do you?
600
00:28:04,930 --> 00:28:06,140
- We watched porn
but I remember
601
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,590
because the one's that you,
602
00:28:08,690 --> 00:28:10,340
it was you that chose it.
603
00:28:10,450 --> 00:28:11,480
- That French couple.
- Yeah.
604
00:28:11,590 --> 00:28:13,030
And it's a couple of
basically...
605
00:28:13,140 --> 00:28:14,070
- Really hot.
606
00:28:14,170 --> 00:28:16,030
I just remember
propping the phone up,
607
00:28:16,140 --> 00:28:17,070
watching porn,
608
00:28:17,170 --> 00:28:18,590
and then you were like...
609
00:28:18,690 --> 00:28:20,280
- Yeah, I think
it literally was,
610
00:28:20,380 --> 00:28:23,240
- it was like on the pillow.
- Yeah.
611
00:28:23,340 --> 00:28:24,900
- You were on all fours.
- On all fours.
612
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,860
- And I was kind of
over-the-top behind
613
00:28:27,970 --> 00:28:31,970
I got the view of the porn
for both of us.
614
00:28:32,070 --> 00:28:35,170
- Yeah. It was nice.
- On a tiny little phone.
615
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,100
Narrator: For Freddie and Tracy,
watching porn together
616
00:28:38,210 --> 00:28:40,000
has been a big part
of their relationship
617
00:28:40,100 --> 00:28:42,310
since they met a year ago.
618
00:28:42,410 --> 00:28:43,720
It's something they enjoy.
619
00:28:47,830 --> 00:28:50,340
But porn can often be
very secretive
620
00:28:50,450 --> 00:28:52,590
and grow into something
compulsive.
621
00:28:55,100 --> 00:28:57,240
- So I have this
on all my devices,
622
00:28:57,340 --> 00:28:59,410
it's called
'Accountable To You'.
623
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,550
And it just looks
like this icon here on my phone,
624
00:29:02,660 --> 00:29:03,900
so I've got all my normal,
625
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:05,860
got Facebook on there,
got me Chelsea app,
626
00:29:05,970 --> 00:29:07,410
and then that,
'Accountable to You'
627
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:08,930
it's on my phone,
628
00:29:09,030 --> 00:29:11,410
but Lydia's
my accountability partner.
629
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:13,140
So, for example,
630
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:17,140
because if I was to type
on any of my devices,
631
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:21,000
'porn' or even words
like 'sex' or...
632
00:29:21,100 --> 00:29:22,590
..even 'addiction', anything.
633
00:29:22,690 --> 00:29:25,170
'Addiction', it would flag up
a warning.
634
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,690
Producer: So does that ping
on your phone then?
635
00:29:27,790 --> 00:29:28,720
- Yeah.
636
00:29:28,830 --> 00:29:29,720
Producer:
And then do you look at it?
637
00:29:29,830 --> 00:29:30,760
- Yeah.
638
00:29:30,860 --> 00:29:33,830
So it will say like,
questionable activity,
639
00:29:33,930 --> 00:29:35,930
and that's on his phone.
640
00:29:36,030 --> 00:29:38,170
So even like voice searches
641
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:39,790
if it can be questionable
at all,
642
00:29:39,900 --> 00:29:42,410
it will flag something up,
and send me an email.
643
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,720
Producer: So, you obviously felt
you needed that.
644
00:29:44,830 --> 00:29:45,830
- Yeah.
- Yeah.
645
00:29:45,930 --> 00:29:48,900
Producer: What was that
giving you by having that app?
646
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:50,970
- This program for me,
647
00:29:51,070 --> 00:29:52,100
helped me so that,
648
00:29:52,210 --> 00:29:54,720
I remember days
in the recovery process
649
00:29:54,830 --> 00:29:59,170
where I would want to watch porn
and if I had access to porn,
650
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,070
without my wife finding out,
651
00:30:01,170 --> 00:30:02,830
I probably would have turned
to it,
652
00:30:02,930 --> 00:30:03,970
I would have given in.
653
00:30:04,070 --> 00:30:06,240
Not being able
to get away with it
654
00:30:06,340 --> 00:30:07,240
in that moment,
655
00:30:07,340 --> 00:30:10,380
was kind of the final ability
to say no.
656
00:30:12,930 --> 00:30:15,620
Narrator: Rob would regularly
spend two or three hours
657
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:17,520
looking for the perfect video.
658
00:30:17,620 --> 00:30:20,900
While Lydia lay asleep
up in bed.
659
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,590
But that perfect video
didn't exist.
660
00:30:23,690 --> 00:30:26,240
Because there is always
one more to watch.
661
00:30:28,100 --> 00:30:29,930
There's disagreement
as to whether porn
662
00:30:30,030 --> 00:30:31,760
should be classified
as addictive.
663
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:34,620
What's not in doubt,
664
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:36,690
is that there are many like Rob
665
00:30:36,790 --> 00:30:39,590
whose porn use has become
compulsive.
666
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:41,900
- For me, personally,
667
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:46,070
pornography started
when I was teenager.
668
00:30:46,170 --> 00:30:49,830
I went through,
I then got into a relationship,
669
00:30:49,930 --> 00:30:52,310
where I continued
to use pornography.
670
00:30:52,410 --> 00:30:55,520
And it caused a lot of tension
671
00:30:55,620 --> 00:31:00,550
she'd find images on my phone,
you know, videos.
672
00:31:00,660 --> 00:31:03,590
It broke her inside
because she loved me.
673
00:31:03,690 --> 00:31:07,140
And she wanted to be
the only woman
674
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:11,720
that that I had saw,
you know in that way.
675
00:31:11,830 --> 00:31:13,450
- I remember porn that,
you know,
676
00:31:13,550 --> 00:31:18,790
you would see a certain porn
and it would be so arousing,
677
00:31:18,900 --> 00:31:20,100
you know,
like they're all arousing,
678
00:31:20,210 --> 00:31:22,170
but then there's that one video
of some like,
679
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,480
whoa, that just ticked
every single possible box.
680
00:31:25,590 --> 00:31:27,480
Like that woman looked
the way you want it,
681
00:31:27,590 --> 00:31:28,620
that act, that everything.
682
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,310
And it's kind of like,
years later,
683
00:31:31,410 --> 00:31:32,340
that still,
684
00:31:32,450 --> 00:31:37,030
I mean if I let myself now,
I could go to those memories.
685
00:31:37,140 --> 00:31:39,930
I don't because I have this
thing in my head
686
00:31:40,030 --> 00:31:42,070
I feel like the thought's
like a dog on a lead,
687
00:31:42,170 --> 00:31:44,340
and I keep that, if that
thought tries to get off,
688
00:31:44,450 --> 00:31:45,480
I'm like, yank that thought,
689
00:31:45,590 --> 00:31:47,830
I don't let it go anywhere now.
690
00:31:47,930 --> 00:31:49,860
- So do you think
when you see a guy,
691
00:31:49,970 --> 00:31:52,000
from that perspective
and there's a girl,
692
00:31:52,100 --> 00:31:54,070
do you think that guy is you,
then?
693
00:31:54,170 --> 00:31:56,310
- Well, yeah I'd say
that's how you imagine it,
694
00:31:56,410 --> 00:31:59,310
so if you're watching
point of view porn,
695
00:31:59,410 --> 00:32:00,930
you're imagining
you're the person
696
00:32:01,030 --> 00:32:02,100
who's in that situation.
697
00:32:02,210 --> 00:32:04,790
- That's how I would do it.
- Yeah.
698
00:32:04,900 --> 00:32:07,100
So, you're thinking
of having sex with other women
699
00:32:07,210 --> 00:32:08,660
- when you're watching it?
- No, of course not.
700
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:10,450
[laughs]
701
00:32:10,550 --> 00:32:14,720
You're not thinking about it,
but you're almost trying to,
702
00:32:14,830 --> 00:32:15,900
you know, you're thinking...
703
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:17,240
- You're in that position.
704
00:32:17,340 --> 00:32:19,310
- Yeah,
like that's your scenario.
705
00:32:19,410 --> 00:32:22,520
- I just think I'm watching
other people having sex,
706
00:32:22,620 --> 00:32:23,930
that's how I see porn.
707
00:32:24,030 --> 00:32:24,930
- Yeah.
708
00:32:25,030 --> 00:32:28,450
- As opposed to
I'm in the porn.
709
00:32:28,550 --> 00:32:30,100
I don't think that's my vagina.
710
00:32:30,210 --> 00:32:31,100
- Yeah.
711
00:32:31,210 --> 00:32:33,030
- But you think that's your cock
when you're watching it.
712
00:32:33,140 --> 00:32:34,590
- I guess you do.
713
00:32:34,690 --> 00:32:36,590
You're not watching something
714
00:32:36,690 --> 00:32:39,280
because you're wanting
to sit outside of a situation
715
00:32:39,380 --> 00:32:41,210
and just look in and watch it,
716
00:32:41,310 --> 00:32:43,170
I would have thought everybody
717
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,310
trying to put themselves
into that scenario.
718
00:32:45,410 --> 00:32:47,720
As opposed to sit back out of it
719
00:32:47,830 --> 00:32:50,550
and kind of watches it
from the fence.
720
00:32:50,660 --> 00:32:53,100
- Why is porn wrong?
Why is it harmful?
721
00:32:53,210 --> 00:32:56,240
I mean one of the things I feel,
the biggest issue about it
722
00:32:56,340 --> 00:32:59,480
is it completely separates
sex and love.
723
00:32:59,590 --> 00:33:03,310
And ultimately if you build
something just on that,
724
00:33:03,410 --> 00:33:04,930
it becomes very empty
725
00:33:05,030 --> 00:33:07,210
and it becomes very shallow
and unsatisfying,
726
00:33:07,310 --> 00:33:09,690
and basically what porn is doing
is selling people a lie
727
00:33:09,790 --> 00:33:10,830
and a fantasy.
728
00:33:10,930 --> 00:33:13,830
- For me, it got to a point
where I'm looking at women
729
00:33:13,930 --> 00:33:16,590
and all I'm seeing
is, you know, boobs and bum,
730
00:33:16,690 --> 00:33:20,340
that's all I'm seeing,
I'm not seeing the person.
731
00:33:20,450 --> 00:33:23,000
And that's what people
are looking at, you know,
732
00:33:23,100 --> 00:33:26,030
women are just objects now,
now today.
733
00:33:26,140 --> 00:33:29,450
- I've had partners before,
you know, previous life,
734
00:33:29,550 --> 00:33:30,860
and we've watched porn together
735
00:33:30,970 --> 00:33:33,280
because that partner
has said I want to,
736
00:33:33,380 --> 00:33:37,030
or has agreed
and said it's fine.
737
00:33:37,140 --> 00:33:39,240
And then I even remember
one particular person,
738
00:33:39,340 --> 00:33:42,790
months later, major, major row
739
00:33:42,900 --> 00:33:44,590
because, you know,
like insecurities
740
00:33:44,690 --> 00:33:46,140
really kicked into her.
741
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,660
Oh, you were thinking
about porn when we were doing,
742
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:49,930
you know,
just having sex then,
743
00:33:50,030 --> 00:33:52,860
so although they're saying
it's fine, couples,
744
00:33:52,970 --> 00:33:56,450
it is definitely putting
in somebody's insecurity,
745
00:33:56,550 --> 00:33:57,860
I'm not enough.
746
00:33:57,970 --> 00:34:00,280
- I'd always had like,
I'd been around people
747
00:34:00,380 --> 00:34:01,410
that would say,
748
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:03,070
I don't need to look
at porn magazines,
749
00:34:03,170 --> 00:34:04,310
because that's cheating.
750
00:34:04,410 --> 00:34:05,690
Like they would say
to their partners.
751
00:34:05,790 --> 00:34:07,660
And I think, how is it cheating
752
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:09,930
when you're looking
at other people,
753
00:34:10,030 --> 00:34:12,760
like, you're not
texting somebody
754
00:34:12,860 --> 00:34:15,380
or seeing somebody
or sleeping with somebody,
755
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,240
you are viewing other couples.
756
00:34:18,340 --> 00:34:19,790
So to me, I really struggled
757
00:34:19,900 --> 00:34:23,830
to see how women wouldn't allow
their husbands to look at porn.
758
00:34:23,930 --> 00:34:25,410
And I thought,
that's really weird.
759
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:27,070
But now we've had
like this revelation,
760
00:34:27,170 --> 00:34:30,280
where he's like I'm thinking
about fucking all these women.
761
00:34:30,380 --> 00:34:34,280
- I'm not thinking about it.
It's a subconscious feeling.
762
00:34:34,380 --> 00:34:35,860
- You know, I didn't know
you viewed it like that,
763
00:34:35,970 --> 00:34:37,900
I thought you were just being
a peeping Tom also,
764
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:39,140
watching a couple having sex,
765
00:34:39,240 --> 00:34:42,480
not you thinking
that woman's riding me.
766
00:34:42,590 --> 00:34:45,070
Yeah, I never saw it
as a cheating thing.
767
00:34:45,170 --> 00:34:48,590
But actually if you are then
fantasising about having sex
768
00:34:48,690 --> 00:34:50,340
with multiple women,
769
00:34:50,450 --> 00:34:52,970
that probably is something
you shouldn't do.
770
00:34:53,070 --> 00:34:54,000
- But it wouldn't be cheating,
771
00:34:54,100 --> 00:34:55,620
unless something
actually happened.
772
00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,520
Narrator: Only you know
what you're really thinking
773
00:34:59,620 --> 00:35:00,860
when you look at porn.
774
00:35:00,970 --> 00:35:03,000
[soft music]
775
00:35:05,590 --> 00:35:08,520
But whether it's divisive
or not...
776
00:35:08,620 --> 00:35:10,520
..while there's money
to be made,
777
00:35:10,620 --> 00:35:14,450
pornographers are going to
keep on making it.
778
00:35:14,550 --> 00:35:16,660
Man: "You are the owner
of Evil Angel
779
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:18,620
"studio pornography.
780
00:35:18,720 --> 00:35:20,410
"Your job before
was male stripper
781
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:22,310
"and porn actor
which was immoral
782
00:35:22,410 --> 00:35:23,830
"and disgusting.
783
00:35:23,930 --> 00:35:25,760
"Your company now, Evil Angel,
784
00:35:25,860 --> 00:35:28,760
"is an evil,
bad production company.
785
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,930
"You Mr John, are a sinner,
adulterer
786
00:35:33,030 --> 00:35:35,030
"and sexually immoral person.
787
00:35:35,140 --> 00:35:37,410
"Your product porn sex,
is full of lust
788
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,450
"that makes Americans
become pervert, nasty,
789
00:35:40,550 --> 00:35:42,620
"adulterer fornicators."
790
00:35:42,720 --> 00:35:44,480
See, this is the guilt
I have to live with.
791
00:35:44,590 --> 00:35:45,520
It's horrible.
792
00:35:45,620 --> 00:35:48,590
Let's see right here,
"Again, sin always hurts
793
00:35:48,690 --> 00:35:51,310
"and pornography
hurts marriage,
794
00:35:51,410 --> 00:35:52,520
"families and children."
795
00:35:52,620 --> 00:35:53,660
Oh God.
796
00:35:55,620 --> 00:35:58,000
It is a controversial area,
you know.
797
00:35:59,860 --> 00:36:01,380
Pornography.
798
00:36:02,310 --> 00:36:04,210
Maybe he's right.
799
00:36:04,310 --> 00:36:05,620
Producer:
Where is your responsibility
800
00:36:05,720 --> 00:36:08,030
as a producer and distributer?
801
00:36:08,140 --> 00:36:10,690
- So there's a hubris involved
802
00:36:10,790 --> 00:36:14,450
with thinking that you know
what's best for other people.
803
00:36:14,550 --> 00:36:16,860
And I try and be careful
804
00:36:16,970 --> 00:36:19,000
not to have too much of that
in my life.
805
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:24,410
Porn, democratises pleasure.
806
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:26,590
Pornography is stuff
for the masses of people,
807
00:36:26,690 --> 00:36:27,620
for poor people,
808
00:36:27,720 --> 00:36:30,860
for the average person
to get pleasure out of sex.
809
00:36:30,970 --> 00:36:34,550
Which used to be only restricted
to like King Henry the Eighth.
810
00:36:34,660 --> 00:36:36,030
Or things like that.
811
00:36:36,140 --> 00:36:38,860
People who could just indulge
in their sexual fantasies,
812
00:36:38,970 --> 00:36:41,720
now the common man
can get off sexually.
813
00:36:41,830 --> 00:36:43,000
And I think that's
the great thing
814
00:36:43,100 --> 00:36:44,140
about pornography.
815
00:36:45,930 --> 00:36:47,970
[suspenseful music]
816
00:36:54,030 --> 00:36:56,450
- You put saline solution
like in your eyes?
817
00:36:56,550 --> 00:36:57,860
- Yeah.
818
00:36:57,970 --> 00:36:59,900
- Is that a thing?
- Yeah.
819
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:01,170
[laughs]
820
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:03,070
It's sterile, so it cleans.
821
00:37:03,170 --> 00:37:04,720
- And does it hurt?
- No.
822
00:37:05,900 --> 00:37:08,170
Narrator: Gianna is 21.
823
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:11,550
She started her porn career
a few months after Gia.
824
00:37:11,660 --> 00:37:13,100
They share the same agent.
825
00:37:14,550 --> 00:37:17,720
Producer: What's,
tell me about your eye?
826
00:37:17,830 --> 00:37:22,240
- Oh, I have an eye infection
because a guy came in my eyes.
827
00:37:22,340 --> 00:37:23,380
[laughs]
828
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:28,480
Today is the first day
that it hasn't been like,
829
00:37:28,590 --> 00:37:30,100
excruciating pain.
830
00:37:30,210 --> 00:37:32,520
But yeah for like the past
four, five days
831
00:37:32,620 --> 00:37:33,930
it's been like,
832
00:37:34,030 --> 00:37:36,070
I couldn't open my eyes
in the morning.
833
00:37:37,340 --> 00:37:39,340
Yeah, and when I look
into bright light,
834
00:37:39,450 --> 00:37:40,520
feels like I'm blind.
835
00:37:41,690 --> 00:37:42,620
So yeah.
836
00:37:42,720 --> 00:37:45,410
0/10 recommend getting cum
in your eye.
837
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:46,830
It's not a fun time.
838
00:37:46,930 --> 00:37:48,030
Producer: Does that happen
often?
839
00:37:48,140 --> 00:37:50,310
- To me it does, yeah.
840
00:37:50,410 --> 00:37:53,450
'Cause a lot of the cum shots
are like on your face.
841
00:37:53,550 --> 00:37:55,210
So it's kind of hard
to not get it in your eye.
842
00:37:55,310 --> 00:37:56,450
Producer: Has it happened
to you as well?
843
00:37:56,550 --> 00:38:00,660
- Yeah, all the time.
All the time.
844
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:02,690
There just has, yeah.
845
00:38:02,790 --> 00:38:04,480
They're just, yeah.
846
00:38:04,590 --> 00:38:06,380
Have no aim.
847
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:08,590
- I hate it.
- You do?
848
00:38:08,690 --> 00:38:10,140
- Mostly because it gets
in my eyes,
849
00:38:10,240 --> 00:38:11,140
like I don't really care
850
00:38:11,240 --> 00:38:12,480
if it's on the rest
of my face.
851
00:38:12,590 --> 00:38:13,830
- Oh my god.
Producer: Can you request
852
00:38:13,930 --> 00:38:17,000
for that not to be
how it ends?
853
00:38:17,100 --> 00:38:19,100
- Yeah, but they probably
wouldn't like it.
854
00:38:20,170 --> 00:38:22,830
They'd probably just be like,
oh well.
855
00:38:22,930 --> 00:38:25,660
- 'Cause they're paying us
for the scene like,
856
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,550
they have a certain way
they want the scene to go so.
857
00:38:28,660 --> 00:38:31,900
- This is a lovely
breakfast conversation.
858
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:32,930
[laughs]
859
00:38:33,030 --> 00:38:34,030
- Right.
860
00:38:36,240 --> 00:38:37,410
Narrator: Back in the 70s,
861
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:39,660
you'd only really see
what's become known as
862
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:40,900
the money shot,
863
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,410
in a hard-core porn film.
864
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:47,450
But now almost every porn scene
finishes this way.
865
00:38:47,550 --> 00:38:48,900
It's standard practice.
866
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,030
Producer: Can you just
have a look at this clip,
867
00:38:52,140 --> 00:38:55,590
this is from like
an anti-porn campaigner.
868
00:38:55,690 --> 00:38:57,170
And just tell us what you think.
869
00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:58,760
It's only about 40 seconds.
870
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,280
Woman: So what do we see
in mainstream porn?
871
00:39:06,380 --> 00:39:10,210
Gagging, rough anal sex,
ejaculation on face,
872
00:39:10,310 --> 00:39:14,030
ATM, hair pulling,
and spitting in her face.
873
00:39:14,140 --> 00:39:17,380
So the standard porn scene,
one woman, three men,
874
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:18,860
she's being gagged,
875
00:39:18,970 --> 00:39:20,930
she's being penetrated,
orally, anally,
876
00:39:21,030 --> 00:39:23,280
and then they all ejaculate
on her face.
877
00:39:23,380 --> 00:39:25,100
Producer: What do you think
about what she's saying?
878
00:39:25,210 --> 00:39:28,340
- It's two different people's
opinions on it.
879
00:39:28,450 --> 00:39:30,830
So the way she's,
like obviously she's saying that
880
00:39:30,930 --> 00:39:32,720
it sounds absolutely disgusting,
881
00:39:32,830 --> 00:39:35,140
it sounds like the three men
are forcing a woman
882
00:39:35,240 --> 00:39:37,100
to do whatever they want to do.
883
00:39:37,210 --> 00:39:40,170
Obviously, dirty stuff as well,
but at the same time,
884
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:41,690
what she's not saying,
885
00:39:41,790 --> 00:39:44,310
the woman could be the one
wanting that to happen,
886
00:39:44,410 --> 00:39:46,790
so it's different ways
of viewing it.
887
00:39:46,900 --> 00:39:48,720
- The thing is, you know,
excuse me,
888
00:39:48,830 --> 00:39:51,170
you know it's porn,
that's the thing.
889
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:52,520
It's not like,
890
00:39:52,620 --> 00:39:54,550
like I've never watched porn
and thought, like,
891
00:39:54,660 --> 00:39:56,550
I'm gonna force do that,
892
00:39:56,660 --> 00:39:59,380
like unless someone
like, likes it or not.
893
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:01,240
Because I know it's porn,
I know it's fake,
894
00:40:01,340 --> 00:40:02,310
I know it's acting, like,
895
00:40:02,410 --> 00:40:04,100
it's just, that's just,
896
00:40:04,210 --> 00:40:06,000
it's just there,
some people like that,
897
00:40:06,100 --> 00:40:07,140
some people don't.
898
00:40:14,860 --> 00:40:16,520
Narrator:
Gianna's continued working
899
00:40:16,620 --> 00:40:18,210
despite the eye infection.
900
00:40:19,380 --> 00:40:21,480
Gia's been forced
to take some time out.
901
00:40:21,590 --> 00:40:22,620
- OK.
902
00:40:23,660 --> 00:40:25,720
I need to empty this.
903
00:40:25,830 --> 00:40:27,280
I'm disgusting.
904
00:40:27,380 --> 00:40:28,480
[laughs]
905
00:40:30,620 --> 00:40:33,170
So the gynaecologist
that I went to,
906
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:35,760
told me that I can't
have any penetration
907
00:40:35,860 --> 00:40:37,590
for at least a month.
908
00:40:37,690 --> 00:40:39,660
Basically I tore my cervix.
909
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:44,000
And I might, also my bladder
was really beat up.
910
00:40:44,100 --> 00:40:45,070
Like beaten up,
911
00:40:45,170 --> 00:40:48,410
it was just like my insides
were just like beaten up.
912
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:49,450
Really.
913
00:40:49,550 --> 00:40:50,450
Producer: From too much sex?
914
00:40:50,550 --> 00:40:53,000
- Yeah, from too much porno sex.
915
00:40:53,100 --> 00:40:54,660
Pretty much.
916
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,690
I went from having sex
like maybe once a week,
917
00:40:57,790 --> 00:41:00,280
to having sex like a lot.
918
00:41:00,380 --> 00:41:03,720
And just like really hard
like pounding, yeah.
919
00:41:03,830 --> 00:41:04,930
Probably.
920
00:41:05,030 --> 00:41:07,140
Also a lot of the dicks
were a lot bigger
921
00:41:07,240 --> 00:41:09,620
than I've ever had,
like in my life, so.
922
00:41:09,720 --> 00:41:11,030
Producer: Sounds really painful.
923
00:41:11,140 --> 00:41:15,030
- It was very painful yeah,
it's painful.
924
00:41:15,140 --> 00:41:16,450
It's really painful.
925
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:22,660
Producer: Is there any like,
long-term...
926
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:24,480
- I don't think so.
Producer: ..impacts of that?
927
00:41:24,590 --> 00:41:25,660
I don't think so.
928
00:41:28,070 --> 00:41:31,000
Producer: Did that kind of
cross your mind, like?
929
00:41:31,100 --> 00:41:32,830
- Um, yeah I guess.
930
00:41:32,930 --> 00:41:37,930
I mean even with like STDs
and stuff, well STI's,
931
00:41:38,030 --> 00:41:40,830
like, chlamydia
and gonorrhoea
932
00:41:40,930 --> 00:41:44,480
can affect your, your body.
933
00:41:44,590 --> 00:41:47,380
In negative long-term ways
I guess.
934
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:49,410
With fertility and stuff.
935
00:41:50,930 --> 00:41:52,660
Producer: Is that quite scary?
936
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:54,830
- Yeah. Yeah it is.
937
00:41:54,930 --> 00:41:57,310
But, I mean,
I don't really want kids.
938
00:41:57,410 --> 00:42:00,340
But at the end, it is still
like, pretty fucked up.
939
00:42:00,450 --> 00:42:02,900
Because like, it's inevitable.
940
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:04,210
It goes around.
941
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:21,310
Most people work
in like office buildings,
942
00:42:21,410 --> 00:42:24,210
they have sad, sad lives.
943
00:42:24,310 --> 00:42:27,860
I didn't want to be stuck
in an office for my whole life.
944
00:42:27,970 --> 00:42:31,070
You know, this is just
what I want to do,
945
00:42:31,170 --> 00:42:33,660
like I can't see myself
doing anything else.
946
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:35,550
Paparazzi: Right here!
Right here!
947
00:42:35,660 --> 00:42:36,790
Sound of my voice,
sound of my voice,
948
00:42:36,900 --> 00:42:37,790
sound of my voice.
949
00:42:37,900 --> 00:42:39,690
Gia: I have wanted to do porn
950
00:42:39,790 --> 00:42:42,030
since I was in like
seventh grade.
951
00:42:42,140 --> 00:42:43,970
So it's just like something
952
00:42:44,070 --> 00:42:46,830
that I've been
so passionate about.
953
00:42:46,930 --> 00:42:48,480
It's not really like fame,
954
00:42:48,590 --> 00:42:51,240
like I'd rather have like
the money
955
00:42:51,340 --> 00:42:53,070
than the recognition, probably,
956
00:42:53,170 --> 00:42:55,760
just because like, to survive.
957
00:42:55,860 --> 00:42:58,450
And to live comfortably.
958
00:42:58,550 --> 00:43:01,590
- These girls can make
more money than a doctor,
959
00:43:01,690 --> 00:43:04,170
without having to go through
the degree.
960
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:07,620
If they're smart, listen
and pay attention,
961
00:43:07,720 --> 00:43:11,660
then they can make a good living
for quite a long time.
962
00:43:13,340 --> 00:43:14,900
Narrator:
But in the Internet age,
963
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:18,340
the shelf life of a porn actor
like Gia is uncertain.
964
00:43:20,720 --> 00:43:24,070
It could be a matter of months
or a few years if she's lucky.
965
00:43:26,140 --> 00:43:29,240
The millions of online viewers
are constantly searching
966
00:43:29,340 --> 00:43:31,070
for the next new thing.
967
00:43:31,170 --> 00:43:32,660
The next new Gia.
968
00:43:36,900 --> 00:43:40,240
Fallon has already walked away
from porn.
969
00:43:40,340 --> 00:43:42,550
The impact of looking
at hard-core content
970
00:43:42,660 --> 00:43:44,340
has proved too much.
971
00:43:44,450 --> 00:43:46,830
She's now quit her job
with Evil Angel.
972
00:43:48,860 --> 00:43:52,930
- I just felt like
I met my limit.
973
00:43:54,860 --> 00:43:58,450
In fact I think
I went over my limit.
974
00:43:58,550 --> 00:44:03,280
Narrator: Rob is continuing
to fight the urge to watch porn.
975
00:44:03,380 --> 00:44:06,830
Throughout his life,
he's struggled with addictions.
976
00:44:06,930 --> 00:44:09,070
Rob: This battle
has been intense
977
00:44:09,170 --> 00:44:10,620
and it went on for years.
978
00:44:12,170 --> 00:44:16,310
And I would say by far
the hardest drug
979
00:44:16,410 --> 00:44:18,590
I ever had to get off
was pornography.
980
00:44:18,690 --> 00:44:19,930
By far.
981
00:44:21,660 --> 00:44:26,000
I don't think porn just stops
the minute you stop looking,
982
00:44:26,100 --> 00:44:29,480
it's deeply embedded
in the brain pattern.
983
00:44:32,900 --> 00:44:35,620
There's another woman
in the room. You know.
984
00:44:35,720 --> 00:44:37,550
So you know I call porn,
the other woman.
985
00:44:44,340 --> 00:44:45,860
I don't think you'll have much
luck here,
986
00:44:45,970 --> 00:44:47,450
at all sincerely.
987
00:44:47,550 --> 00:44:49,520
We're just gonna say it's your
first scene,
988
00:44:49,620 --> 00:44:51,000
and this is your um...
989
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:54,140
..introductory shoot.
990
00:44:54,240 --> 00:44:56,170
OK, so there's no pressure
on it.
991
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:57,240
- Yeah.
992
00:44:57,340 --> 00:44:58,720
- It's hot girl.
993
00:44:58,830 --> 00:45:00,450
And you're gonna fuck her.
994
00:45:00,550 --> 00:45:03,100
Like, I'm serious,
like no pressure.
995
00:45:03,210 --> 00:45:04,620
- OK.
- Right.
996
00:45:07,170 --> 00:45:11,830
- If I didn't think
that I couldn't make $50-$60,000
997
00:45:11,930 --> 00:45:13,140
a month,
998
00:45:13,240 --> 00:45:15,170
if I didn't think
I could do that,
999
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:16,550
I wouldn't be doing this.
1000
00:45:16,660 --> 00:45:20,280
- Do not abdicate
your responsibility
1001
00:45:20,380 --> 00:45:24,100
to educate on what sex is
1002
00:45:24,210 --> 00:45:25,720
and therefore what is porn is.
1003
00:45:25,830 --> 00:45:27,970
- It's his first time,
how are you feeling?
1004
00:45:29,690 --> 00:45:30,970
- I don't really know.
1005
00:45:31,070 --> 00:45:32,860
I let you know in an hour.
1006
00:45:32,970 --> 00:45:34,000
[laughs]
1007
00:45:58,030 --> 00:46:01,100
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