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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,720 --> 00:00:03,900 https://torrentgalaxy.to/profile/HashMiner Man: The one person I really wouldn't want 2 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:05,760 to find me watching porn, 3 00:00:05,860 --> 00:00:06,790 would be my wife 4 00:00:06,900 --> 00:00:08,690 because I really don't want to hurt her. 5 00:00:08,790 --> 00:00:10,860 You know, I never ever wanted to watch porn 6 00:00:10,970 --> 00:00:14,140 and hurt my wife or have her feel betrayed, 7 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:16,830 which is what pornography does to a spouse. 8 00:00:16,930 --> 00:00:19,310 So in it's worst, on a bad day, 9 00:00:19,410 --> 00:00:21,450 it could be two or three hours of bingeing. 10 00:00:21,550 --> 00:00:24,900 You know, just twitter and feasting on this buffet 11 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:28,410 of two-minute videos, just constantly diving into it. 12 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:30,340 Which is why I class it as an addiction. 13 00:00:30,450 --> 00:00:32,480 [upbeat music] 14 00:00:35,900 --> 00:00:37,000 Narrator: Porn. 15 00:00:37,100 --> 00:00:39,790 It's only ever a mouse click away. 16 00:00:39,900 --> 00:00:42,620 Whoever you are, wherever you are. 17 00:00:45,100 --> 00:00:47,170 No one needs to know you're looking at it. 18 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:48,790 And it's absolutely free. 19 00:00:50,170 --> 00:00:52,480 In Britain, we've become so worried, 20 00:00:52,590 --> 00:00:54,930 there are now plans to block under 18's 21 00:00:55,030 --> 00:00:56,620 from watching online porn. 22 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:58,380 Man: Yes. 23 00:00:58,480 --> 00:00:59,380 [camera shutter clicks] 24 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:02,660 Yes, I know you're coming, you're coming, you're coming. 25 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:04,240 Narrator: Since this program started, 26 00:01:04,340 --> 00:01:05,660 one minute ago, 27 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:08,520 more than 50,000 people have gone onto 28 00:01:08,620 --> 00:01:10,790 the world's biggest Internet porn site, 29 00:01:10,900 --> 00:01:12,590 Pornhub. 30 00:01:12,690 --> 00:01:15,550 Producer: How often would you use porn now? 31 00:01:15,660 --> 00:01:17,070 - Sometimes two times a day, 32 00:01:17,170 --> 00:01:20,860 up too maybe, easily, probably minimum five times a week. 33 00:01:20,970 --> 00:01:22,720 Woman: It's hard to like, get into bed 34 00:01:22,830 --> 00:01:25,280 with your phone in your hand and then not look at porn. 35 00:01:25,380 --> 00:01:26,340 - Yeah. 36 00:01:26,450 --> 00:01:29,660 Narrator: Pornhub alone receives 92 million visitors 37 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:30,720 a day. 38 00:01:30,830 --> 00:01:32,480 That's like the combined population 39 00:01:32,590 --> 00:01:34,100 of Spain and Uganda logging on. 40 00:01:34,210 --> 00:01:36,170 Woman: Big Tit Anal Milfs. 41 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:38,760 Narrator: It's an industry that's worth billions. 42 00:01:38,860 --> 00:01:40,000 Man: If I didn't think 43 00:01:40,100 --> 00:01:43,280 that I could make $50 to $60,000, a month, 44 00:01:43,380 --> 00:01:45,590 if I didn't think I could do that, 45 00:01:45,690 --> 00:01:47,100 I wouldn't be doing this. 46 00:01:49,830 --> 00:01:52,520 Narrator: The genie is out of the bottle. 47 00:01:52,620 --> 00:01:55,340 Man: The Internet was made for porn. 48 00:01:56,450 --> 00:01:59,660 We brought porn to the masses. 49 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:01,620 - There is more porn flooding the earth 50 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:04,210 than ever before in the history of mankind. 51 00:02:04,310 --> 00:02:07,100 Narrator: We'll explore how we got here. 52 00:02:07,210 --> 00:02:09,240 How porn became free, 53 00:02:09,340 --> 00:02:12,140 and how it exploded across the world. 54 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:18,000 - I just can't get my head round that 11, 12, 13-year-olds 55 00:02:18,100 --> 00:02:20,100 are watching porn. 56 00:02:20,210 --> 00:02:22,690 - I feel like I was fucked up because I was watching porn 57 00:02:22,790 --> 00:02:24,520 at like 12 years old. 58 00:02:24,620 --> 00:02:26,100 Narrator: We'll also try to understand 59 00:02:26,210 --> 00:02:29,170 if porn is beginning to change you. 60 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:31,590 Because whether you want to admit it or not, 61 00:02:31,690 --> 00:02:33,720 you are the people watching it. 62 00:02:33,830 --> 00:02:35,830 Have fun. Rolling and action. 63 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:48,660 Narrator: There is a revolution going on in the world of porn. 64 00:02:50,550 --> 00:02:55,030 19-year-old Gia is six months into her porn career. 65 00:02:55,140 --> 00:02:58,480 It's a job she's aspired to since she was just 12. 66 00:03:00,620 --> 00:03:03,660 Gia: I do anal, I do girl girl, I do boy girl, 67 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:05,760 I do boy boy girl. 68 00:03:05,860 --> 00:03:07,000 I'm pretty open. 69 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:11,970 I don't really have a line right now. 70 00:03:12,070 --> 00:03:13,550 I'm reaching for the stars. 71 00:03:14,900 --> 00:03:17,380 Narrator: The days of soft focus erotic fantasy, 72 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:18,520 are long gone. 73 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:24,760 The kind of porn Gia makes, was once labelled extreme. 74 00:03:24,860 --> 00:03:27,000 Today it's everywhere. 75 00:03:27,100 --> 00:03:28,930 You can watch it on your smart phone. 76 00:03:30,830 --> 00:03:33,310 So in a world where it's easier than ever before 77 00:03:33,410 --> 00:03:35,310 to watch extreme content, 78 00:03:35,410 --> 00:03:36,830 it's time to ask... 79 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:41,030 ..is porn beginning to change us? 80 00:03:41,140 --> 00:03:43,100 [upbeat music] 81 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:00,410 This is 'Cam Girl, The New Movie'. 82 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:04,170 'Latin Teens', 'Anal Newbies Number Eight', 83 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:08,790 'Rocko's Hard Academy Part Four Goes Live'. 84 00:04:08,900 --> 00:04:12,000 'Anal Darling Two', 'DP Bandits', 85 00:04:12,100 --> 00:04:14,760 'Hooked Up Hotshots', 'Double Anal Addiction'. 86 00:04:14,860 --> 00:04:16,450 'Sloppy Anal Babe'. 87 00:04:16,550 --> 00:04:19,030 'Young Butt Sex Nymphos'. 88 00:04:19,140 --> 00:04:20,720 Anal. 89 00:04:20,830 --> 00:04:22,070 Everything's anal. 90 00:04:22,170 --> 00:04:23,720 'Anal Depraved'. 91 00:04:24,590 --> 00:04:25,970 I don't got to watch it. 92 00:04:26,070 --> 00:04:27,000 [laughs] 93 00:04:27,100 --> 00:04:29,830 You know, but yeah I, sometimes do see a little, 94 00:04:29,930 --> 00:04:32,790 sometimes things I have to question. 95 00:04:32,900 --> 00:04:34,100 Narrator: This is the head office 96 00:04:34,210 --> 00:04:36,760 of porn production company, Evil Angel. 97 00:04:38,830 --> 00:04:41,070 When the company started out 30 years ago, 98 00:04:41,170 --> 00:04:42,620 it broke new ground. 99 00:04:44,140 --> 00:04:48,240 Making explicit content with a focus on anal sex. 100 00:04:49,410 --> 00:04:52,520 But as porn has exploded across the Internet. 101 00:04:52,620 --> 00:04:55,310 The boundaries have been pushed further and further. 102 00:04:56,760 --> 00:05:00,690 Today you will find this kind of porn everywhere. 103 00:05:00,790 --> 00:05:03,210 It's industry-standard. 104 00:05:03,310 --> 00:05:06,280 Man: My name is Adam Grayson I am the chief financial officer 105 00:05:06,380 --> 00:05:08,450 of Evil Angel. 106 00:05:08,550 --> 00:05:11,380 I don't take what we do for a living all that seriously. 107 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:13,900 I mean we are in the pants around ankles 108 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:15,760 masturbation business. 109 00:05:15,860 --> 00:05:18,000 So this is our content team. 110 00:05:19,690 --> 00:05:21,450 The wandering souls who have to watch porn 111 00:05:21,550 --> 00:05:23,520 all day, every day. 112 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:26,480 [God Save The Queen plays] 113 00:05:29,900 --> 00:05:32,000 Producer: That's the, that's God Save The Queen. 114 00:05:34,100 --> 00:05:35,210 Well I did that for you. 115 00:05:35,310 --> 00:05:37,000 [laughs] 116 00:05:37,100 --> 00:05:39,170 This was given to us by, given to me 117 00:05:39,280 --> 00:05:41,070 by an Evil Angel super fan. 118 00:05:42,170 --> 00:05:46,030 As an example of his thanks. 119 00:05:46,140 --> 00:05:48,280 For all the fine service that we provide. 120 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:51,100 I have to review, 121 00:05:51,210 --> 00:05:54,450 probably close to 80% of everything 122 00:05:54,550 --> 00:05:56,450 that comes through our doors. 123 00:05:56,550 --> 00:05:57,590 It's a lot. 124 00:05:57,690 --> 00:06:00,340 A rough guess would be anywhere from like, 125 00:06:00,450 --> 00:06:02,620 two to six hours of content a day. 126 00:06:04,690 --> 00:06:06,000 I've been here 11 years now. 127 00:06:08,410 --> 00:06:11,720 Man: There are now 103 Evil Angel movies 128 00:06:11,830 --> 00:06:15,550 being viewed right now or being downloaded as we speak. 129 00:06:15,660 --> 00:06:20,240 So, October first we have 'Anal Investigation' 130 00:06:20,340 --> 00:06:22,000 that is an interesting title. 131 00:06:23,210 --> 00:06:26,970 Narrator: Evil Angel's owner is John Stagliano. 132 00:06:27,070 --> 00:06:29,100 John: 'Anal Gaping Nurses'. 133 00:06:29,210 --> 00:06:30,340 Woman: Just been. 134 00:06:30,450 --> 00:06:32,790 I haven't heard of that title before. 135 00:06:32,900 --> 00:06:34,450 Narrator: He created a type of porn 136 00:06:34,550 --> 00:06:36,380 that came to define the company. 137 00:06:40,970 --> 00:06:41,970 Man: Oh, wow. 138 00:06:42,070 --> 00:06:44,070 Oh my god. Oh God. 139 00:06:44,170 --> 00:06:45,590 Yes please. 140 00:06:45,690 --> 00:06:49,240 - In 1994, 141 00:06:49,340 --> 00:06:51,410 maybe it was January of '95, 142 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:53,480 AVN came up with the name 143 00:06:53,590 --> 00:06:56,930 for this first person POV kind of thing that I was doing 144 00:06:57,030 --> 00:06:58,240 in Buttman. 145 00:06:58,340 --> 00:07:00,280 And they called it gonzo. 146 00:07:00,380 --> 00:07:03,070 Man: Yes more, bend over just a little bit more. 147 00:07:03,170 --> 00:07:04,760 Which they took from, 148 00:07:04,860 --> 00:07:07,380 what was used to describe Hunter Thompson's writing. 149 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:09,720 Where he would interview a person 150 00:07:09,830 --> 00:07:12,280 or go to Las Vegas with that person or something 151 00:07:12,380 --> 00:07:15,380 and he would talk about his personal reactions 152 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:16,410 to the person 153 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:18,100 and he would be part of the story. 154 00:07:18,210 --> 00:07:21,550 - Can you take that off? 155 00:07:22,860 --> 00:07:24,970 Narrator: This amateur point of view style 156 00:07:25,070 --> 00:07:26,900 is what dominates porn today. 157 00:07:28,590 --> 00:07:29,690 Man: Can I touch? 158 00:07:39,900 --> 00:07:41,860 This is where all the real magic happens. 159 00:07:41,970 --> 00:07:45,520 All the ones and zeros, this is all the video library. 160 00:07:45,620 --> 00:07:47,280 Storing a lot of video. 161 00:07:47,380 --> 00:07:50,520 This is the heart of the monster, if you will. 162 00:07:50,620 --> 00:07:54,380 It's about half a petabyte, maybe a little more. 163 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:55,900 600 terabytes, something like that. 164 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:58,860 A petabyte is a 1024 terabytes. 165 00:07:58,970 --> 00:08:01,970 So, more than half a petabyte, I believe at this point. 166 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:07,970 It's a lot of porn. 167 00:08:08,070 --> 00:08:10,280 Narrator: It would take you about five solid months 168 00:08:10,380 --> 00:08:13,000 to watch all of Evil Angel's content. 169 00:08:13,100 --> 00:08:15,310 But it's minuscule if you compare it 170 00:08:15,410 --> 00:08:18,660 to the world's biggest free site, Pornhub. 171 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:21,720 The content uploaded to Pornhub in five months, 172 00:08:21,830 --> 00:08:24,450 would take you 48 years to watch. 173 00:08:26,620 --> 00:08:29,930 Producer: Tracy would you watch porn on your own quite a lot? 174 00:08:30,030 --> 00:08:30,930 Yeah. 175 00:08:31,030 --> 00:08:32,690 If we go on either of our phones, 176 00:08:32,790 --> 00:08:34,070 if you go on to like Safari, 177 00:08:34,170 --> 00:08:37,070 it says the most viewed things that you look at 178 00:08:37,170 --> 00:08:38,340 and mine's Pornhub. 179 00:08:38,450 --> 00:08:40,520 - And yours is that other one. - Triple XX. 180 00:08:40,620 --> 00:08:42,660 - Every time you touch your phone, 181 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:45,620 that's, you're kind of associated with, 182 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:48,240 like a dog and a bone, like they hear the food 183 00:08:48,340 --> 00:08:49,410 and you start salivating. 184 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:50,590 Like every time you touch your phone, 185 00:08:50,690 --> 00:08:52,450 you're like, this is what brings me pleasure 186 00:08:52,550 --> 00:08:55,240 and it's hard to then like, get into bed 187 00:08:55,340 --> 00:08:58,030 with your phone in your hand and not then look at porn. 188 00:08:58,140 --> 00:08:59,410 - Yeah. 189 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:01,830 Producer: So when you first looked at online porn, 190 00:09:01,930 --> 00:09:05,380 do you remember what kind of sex you were seeing? 191 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:07,590 - Yes, so I remember. 192 00:09:07,690 --> 00:09:09,380 I remember the video, I could tell you, 193 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:11,450 I couldn't tell you the name of the actor or anything, 194 00:09:11,550 --> 00:09:13,310 - You know the video? - I remember the video. 195 00:09:13,410 --> 00:09:14,310 Full, straight up. 196 00:09:14,410 --> 00:09:16,970 And this was the most interesting film 197 00:09:17,070 --> 00:09:20,410 was that when I was watching it, it was actually an anal video. 198 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:22,240 I didn't know it was anal. 199 00:09:22,340 --> 00:09:23,240 To me that was normal. 200 00:09:23,340 --> 00:09:24,280 So it's... 201 00:09:24,380 --> 00:09:25,660 Producer: What do you mean, you didn't know it? 202 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:27,170 What do you mean by that? 203 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:28,660 You were confused by what you seeing? 204 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:30,410 - I wouldn't say I was confused, 205 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:32,480 I just thought that was sex, 206 00:09:32,590 --> 00:09:34,410 so like, to me, like, 207 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:37,100 I didn't realise he had it in her arse, pretty much. 208 00:09:37,210 --> 00:09:38,860 Like I thought that was... 209 00:09:38,970 --> 00:09:39,900 - Normal. 210 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:42,340 - Yeah, I didn't think, it was like, you know, 211 00:09:42,450 --> 00:09:45,410 but yeah, I thought that was sex. 212 00:09:49,620 --> 00:09:50,830 Fallon is our photo editor, 213 00:09:50,930 --> 00:09:54,480 she is in charge of selecting imagery 214 00:09:54,590 --> 00:09:57,000 for everything. 215 00:09:57,100 --> 00:09:59,310 So she gets to look at photos all day. 216 00:10:00,100 --> 00:10:01,240 Until her eyes bleed. 217 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:07,660 - I'm choosing hard-core photographs, 218 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:11,030 a set of five, to represent scenes. 219 00:10:11,140 --> 00:10:13,790 I'm picking whatever is closest to the camera. 220 00:10:13,900 --> 00:10:16,240 Whatever looks most obscene, 221 00:10:16,340 --> 00:10:20,140 and I have to think like a guy. 222 00:10:21,590 --> 00:10:24,480 As to like what would they want to see immediately, 223 00:10:24,590 --> 00:10:28,550 to judge, oh, this is a scene worth buying, and downloading. 224 00:10:31,070 --> 00:10:32,690 Narrator: Trying to predict our tastes 225 00:10:32,790 --> 00:10:34,310 or even influence them, 226 00:10:34,410 --> 00:10:36,720 is at the heart of the Internet porn industry. 227 00:10:39,070 --> 00:10:41,380 What you might not realise is that when you visit 228 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:43,860 big free porn sites, 229 00:10:43,970 --> 00:10:46,830 they keep a very close eye on what you search for, 230 00:10:46,930 --> 00:10:48,310 what you click on, 231 00:10:48,410 --> 00:10:51,340 and even the point you skip to in a video. 232 00:10:52,790 --> 00:10:54,900 Then they use artificial intelligence 233 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:58,380 and clever algorithms to offer you new videos 234 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:00,760 based on what they think you might like. 235 00:11:02,100 --> 00:11:04,030 It's a bit like online shopping. 236 00:11:05,660 --> 00:11:08,070 Retailers typically feed your purchase history 237 00:11:08,170 --> 00:11:11,450 into a recommendation algorithm. 238 00:11:11,550 --> 00:11:14,000 So if you just bought a bottle of suntan lotion, 239 00:11:14,100 --> 00:11:15,340 they might try and sell you 240 00:11:15,450 --> 00:11:16,660 a new bikini. 241 00:11:17,590 --> 00:11:19,480 Porn is no different. 242 00:11:19,590 --> 00:11:24,100 The masses of customer data collected by the free sites 243 00:11:24,210 --> 00:11:26,900 is also fed back to producers. 244 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:29,660 So they can make more of what is popular. 245 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:31,450 And that can be surprising. 246 00:11:33,380 --> 00:11:37,210 So with millions of eyeballs on Internet porn every day. 247 00:11:37,310 --> 00:11:39,240 It makes you wonder, 248 00:11:39,340 --> 00:11:43,590 who's really making the choice about what porn we watch? 249 00:11:43,690 --> 00:11:45,720 Us or them? 250 00:11:52,620 --> 00:11:54,520 Six months into her porn career, 251 00:11:54,620 --> 00:11:56,340 Gia is heading to a shoot 252 00:11:56,450 --> 00:11:59,340 with one of Evil Angel's most prolific directors. 253 00:12:01,380 --> 00:12:05,000 Gia: I am going to Jonni Darkko's apartment 254 00:12:05,100 --> 00:12:06,100 to do anal. 255 00:12:06,860 --> 00:12:09,240 We'll take pictures, 256 00:12:09,340 --> 00:12:11,830 we'll maybe do a tease, probably. 257 00:12:11,930 --> 00:12:14,170 And then we'll just get into the sex. 258 00:12:15,790 --> 00:12:20,000 This only, I think, my third anal scene this month. 259 00:12:21,070 --> 00:12:23,450 That's what Evil Angel's about. 260 00:12:23,550 --> 00:12:24,480 Man: That's great. 261 00:12:24,590 --> 00:12:25,900 Twist it back to me a little more, sugar, 262 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:27,410 right there, right there, good. 263 00:12:28,660 --> 00:12:29,720 Good, good. 264 00:12:29,830 --> 00:12:31,170 Beautiful, beautiful. 265 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:32,830 And just nice and [sighs]. 266 00:12:32,930 --> 00:12:34,930 [soft music] 267 00:12:35,860 --> 00:12:36,930 There we go. 268 00:12:37,030 --> 00:12:39,140 Beautiful. Good. 269 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:40,170 Right there. 270 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:44,100 Narrator: Jonni Darkko shoots and performs in his videos. 271 00:12:44,210 --> 00:12:47,170 Which he himself describes as extreme. 272 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:48,830 Jonni: Nice and easy. 273 00:12:48,930 --> 00:12:50,000 There you go. 274 00:12:50,100 --> 00:12:53,410 Now come, bring both knees kind of up a little bit more. 275 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:54,860 Narrator: Gia is 19. 276 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:58,000 Jonni is 53. 277 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:01,830 - Now, lean back and grab your booty. 278 00:13:04,620 --> 00:13:07,070 It's a movie called 'I Love Anal'. 279 00:13:07,170 --> 00:13:08,550 We'll see how crazy it gets. 280 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:16,620 That's a nice little move there, girl. 281 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:18,170 Following your hands, I love it. 282 00:13:22,550 --> 00:13:23,480 Good. 283 00:13:23,590 --> 00:13:25,410 Coming up to your face turnaround, find me. 284 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:26,790 Boom, nice. 285 00:13:27,590 --> 00:13:28,720 Perfect. 286 00:13:28,830 --> 00:13:34,550 Go, warmup take this upstairs. 287 00:13:34,660 --> 00:13:36,760 If you guys want to shoot a little bit of this upstairs, 288 00:13:36,860 --> 00:13:38,520 you're cool, you can do that too, 289 00:13:38,620 --> 00:13:40,070 and then, but we're gonna start soon, 290 00:13:40,170 --> 00:13:41,970 probably in the next half an hour. 291 00:13:42,070 --> 00:13:43,380 Go grab that. 292 00:13:44,100 --> 00:13:45,070 Yep cool. 293 00:13:45,170 --> 00:13:46,380 Everything good? 294 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:48,000 Grab your shoes. 295 00:13:50,970 --> 00:13:52,550 Yeah, come upstairs and we can kind of... 296 00:13:57,900 --> 00:13:59,900 It's kind of, a little better up here. 297 00:14:00,970 --> 00:14:02,690 What's the damn cat doing up here. 298 00:14:06,900 --> 00:14:08,410 Producer: So Jonni, can you tell me what is actually 299 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:09,690 going to happen in the scene? 300 00:14:09,790 --> 00:14:12,280 - We're going to shoot a boy girl anal scene, 301 00:14:12,380 --> 00:14:15,210 nothing, I mean, we're just kinda keep it simple, 302 00:14:15,310 --> 00:14:18,550 but it's some of its POV, so it's point of view, you know, 303 00:14:18,660 --> 00:14:21,000 so people can get an idea of what it's like 304 00:14:21,100 --> 00:14:24,280 to look down at that and that. 305 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:27,240 And the whole thing. 306 00:14:27,340 --> 00:14:29,310 If you guys want to shoot a little bit of that, you can. 307 00:14:33,690 --> 00:14:34,720 [laughs] 308 00:14:34,830 --> 00:14:35,970 Producer: We'll catch you later on. 309 00:14:39,140 --> 00:14:42,690 - One of the big trends in the porn industry 310 00:14:42,790 --> 00:14:47,830 is to show women looking shocked and maybe sometimes scared. 311 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:53,900 But, I personally like to add in photos like this one 312 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:55,340 of her smiling 313 00:14:55,450 --> 00:14:57,030 'cause me personally, 314 00:14:57,140 --> 00:15:00,720 I would like to see at least one image out of five 315 00:15:00,830 --> 00:15:02,900 where the female is actually enjoying herself. 316 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:04,340 And not scared. 317 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:08,310 I've been here since March fourth, 318 00:15:08,410 --> 00:15:11,590 it's been a very eye opening experience. 319 00:15:12,830 --> 00:15:14,690 In many, many ways. 320 00:15:14,790 --> 00:15:16,830 [tense music] 321 00:15:22,620 --> 00:15:25,240 Because a lot of this is really hard-core, 322 00:15:25,340 --> 00:15:27,620 really obscene sex. 323 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:32,550 Narrator: It was clear Fallon had more to say. 324 00:15:33,660 --> 00:15:34,900 But the open plan office 325 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:37,170 was making things a little difficult for her. 326 00:15:53,380 --> 00:15:55,970 Most of us spend no more than 10 minutes 327 00:15:56,070 --> 00:15:58,660 on a single visit to the world's biggest porn site. 328 00:16:00,100 --> 00:16:04,070 But for some, minutes can soon turn into hours. 329 00:16:05,550 --> 00:16:08,620 Producer: How often would you use porn now? 330 00:16:10,620 --> 00:16:14,340 - I'd probably say recently, a lot. 331 00:16:14,450 --> 00:16:18,690 Like five times a week maybe. 332 00:16:18,790 --> 00:16:21,140 - I'd probably, sometimes, two times a day, 333 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:24,380 up to maybe, easily, probably, minimum five times a week. 334 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:25,970 It's probably got to the point 335 00:16:26,070 --> 00:16:29,760 where literally spending an hour or an hour and a half 336 00:16:29,860 --> 00:16:31,410 to find that perfect video. 337 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:33,340 Because you've seen so many, you've seen them all 338 00:16:33,450 --> 00:16:34,860 and it's now boring. 339 00:16:39,660 --> 00:16:41,690 Man: It's hard to go without it. 340 00:16:41,790 --> 00:16:43,280 It's like, for example, 341 00:16:43,380 --> 00:16:45,900 sometimes when go on holiday, 342 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:47,790 you can't get porn on the phone 343 00:16:47,900 --> 00:16:49,550 because some countries I've been in, 344 00:16:49,660 --> 00:16:51,720 you just can't find anywhere. 345 00:16:51,830 --> 00:16:53,280 - When you're in Korea, it's really difficult for you. 346 00:16:53,380 --> 00:16:54,280 - 'Cause it's blocked. 347 00:16:54,380 --> 00:16:55,590 But it is, if you're in Thailand 348 00:16:55,690 --> 00:16:57,310 you can't access porn on your phone. 349 00:16:57,410 --> 00:16:58,690 - Or over 18 if you're not connected. 350 00:16:58,790 --> 00:17:02,000 Producer: So where do you think it becomes something 351 00:17:02,100 --> 00:17:03,450 that you're in control of, 352 00:17:03,550 --> 00:17:08,000 or porn on the Internet is sort of in control of you? 353 00:17:08,100 --> 00:17:10,550 - I think it is in control of us. 354 00:17:22,660 --> 00:17:24,340 - Hey guys! 355 00:17:24,450 --> 00:17:25,520 Woman: Hi! 356 00:17:25,620 --> 00:17:27,030 - You alright love? - Yeah. 357 00:17:27,790 --> 00:17:28,830 - Hey! 358 00:17:30,550 --> 00:17:31,900 You alright baby? 359 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:33,900 - Have you had a good day? - Yeah. 360 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:35,480 - Hey darling. 361 00:17:37,210 --> 00:17:38,660 What you got? 362 00:17:40,140 --> 00:17:43,000 Producer: You guys have been through quite a lot? 363 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:45,410 - Yeah. 364 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:47,030 Producer: Would you say you're happy at the moment? 365 00:17:47,140 --> 00:17:48,760 - Hey, shh, shh, shh. 366 00:17:48,860 --> 00:17:50,590 - Yeah. - Our marriage definitely. 367 00:17:50,690 --> 00:17:52,450 Yeah, best it's ever been. 368 00:17:52,550 --> 00:17:56,240 Especially in the last year or so. 369 00:17:56,340 --> 00:17:57,410 I think the good thing 370 00:17:57,520 --> 00:17:59,070 is that everything we went through, 371 00:17:59,170 --> 00:18:01,030 because we've come out of it and its freedom now 372 00:18:01,140 --> 00:18:03,480 I think it's actually drawn us even closer, hasn't it? 373 00:18:03,590 --> 00:18:04,520 - Yeah. 374 00:18:04,620 --> 00:18:06,590 - So I would probably say that we're closer now 375 00:18:06,690 --> 00:18:07,930 than we've ever been before. 376 00:18:08,030 --> 00:18:09,450 Even before all of this happened 377 00:18:09,550 --> 00:18:11,480 I think we're definitely tighter then we've ever been. 378 00:18:11,590 --> 00:18:13,550 Producer: I mean is it fair to say, 379 00:18:13,660 --> 00:18:16,140 Rob's a recovering porn addict? 380 00:18:17,310 --> 00:18:18,550 - Recovered. 381 00:18:18,660 --> 00:18:20,590 I would say. Yeah. 382 00:18:20,690 --> 00:18:22,210 So he's not... 383 00:18:22,310 --> 00:18:24,410 He was in a period of recovering I guess, 384 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:27,210 but I would say recovered now. 385 00:18:27,310 --> 00:18:28,520 - You know, I haven't watched pornography now 386 00:18:28,620 --> 00:18:29,760 for as long as I can remember. 387 00:18:29,860 --> 00:18:33,170 So I'd say that we are, I am recovered, not recovering. 388 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:35,830 Producer: What did it look like on a daily basis 389 00:18:35,930 --> 00:18:38,690 when you are in the throes of porn addiction? 390 00:18:38,790 --> 00:18:41,070 - So in it's worst, on a bad day, 391 00:18:41,170 --> 00:18:43,030 it could be two or three hours of bingeing. 392 00:18:43,140 --> 00:18:45,690 Feasting on this buffet of two minute videos 393 00:18:45,790 --> 00:18:48,170 just constantly diving into it. 394 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:50,760 I was trying to stop at all times 395 00:18:50,860 --> 00:18:52,380 because I really don't want to hurt her, 396 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:53,860 whether it's the man or the woman, 397 00:18:53,970 --> 00:18:55,210 the other one does feel betrayed. 398 00:18:55,310 --> 00:18:56,660 Producer: Did you feel betrayed, Lydia? 399 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:58,900 - Yeah. Because it's not me. 400 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,280 He's finding comfort in someone else. 401 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:04,900 Yeah. 402 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:06,760 Producer: Did it make you feel less? 403 00:19:06,860 --> 00:19:08,690 - Yeah, it makes you feel like you're not enough. 404 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:11,210 I mean, it's hard 405 00:19:11,310 --> 00:19:13,720 because obviously... 406 00:19:13,830 --> 00:19:15,140 Her dummy's over there, by the way. 407 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:19,790 I've had three kids in quite a small space of time 408 00:19:19,900 --> 00:19:21,070 and obviously that does affect you, 409 00:19:21,170 --> 00:19:23,790 it changes your body, you change your emotions, 410 00:19:23,900 --> 00:19:25,100 your hormones, everything, 411 00:19:25,210 --> 00:19:27,310 so I felt like, it's partly my fault 412 00:19:27,410 --> 00:19:29,520 because I wasn't giving him what he needed. 413 00:19:29,620 --> 00:19:32,410 Producer: Rob, when you were at your most extreme 414 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:33,720 of watching porn, 415 00:19:33,830 --> 00:19:36,140 would you ever try and make excuses 416 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:38,380 to find the time to go and watch it? 417 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:42,280 - I remember time where say, 418 00:19:42,380 --> 00:19:45,410 I've been driving around quoting jobs for my business. 419 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:46,550 Producer: You're a painter, decorator? 420 00:19:46,660 --> 00:19:48,590 - Yeah I run a decorating company. 421 00:19:48,690 --> 00:19:52,720 And I would find myself coming home from that quote 422 00:19:52,830 --> 00:19:55,480 and then kind of feeling that urge 423 00:19:55,590 --> 00:19:58,450 and knowing Lydia will be home in about an hour 424 00:19:58,550 --> 00:19:59,450 from the school run, 425 00:19:59,550 --> 00:20:01,140 so if I get home quickly now, 426 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:03,410 I mean this is like a year-and-a-half ago, 427 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:06,760 but I would put my foot down to get home quickly 428 00:20:06,860 --> 00:20:09,140 so I can have that time 429 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:12,140 and that freedom, if you like, to be able to just view porn 430 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:13,140 at my leisure 431 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:16,660 and feast on the opportunity of that pornography. 432 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:18,340 Producer: Do you think that some of the things 433 00:20:18,450 --> 00:20:20,480 that you wanna do, 434 00:20:20,590 --> 00:20:23,070 are influenced by what you see in porn? 435 00:20:23,170 --> 00:20:25,590 - Yeah because you learn new things on porn. 436 00:20:25,690 --> 00:20:27,930 So like, there'd be some stuff that obviously, 437 00:20:28,030 --> 00:20:29,030 I wouldn't have a clue about, 438 00:20:29,140 --> 00:20:31,000 and then I've seen like, a porn video 439 00:20:31,100 --> 00:20:33,240 and I'm like, oh, that looks good. 440 00:20:33,340 --> 00:20:36,790 Obviously that influences you to try different things. 441 00:20:36,900 --> 00:20:38,860 - There's being forceful, 442 00:20:38,970 --> 00:20:40,590 so like, for example, you might just see, 443 00:20:40,690 --> 00:20:42,930 see a guy sort of, throw himself on a girl, 444 00:20:43,030 --> 00:20:45,900 and she might like it, or he does stuff like, 445 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:48,660 controls her, sort of, in a really aggressive way. 446 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:51,410 I mean I like, when I'm watching porn, 447 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:53,100 I like slapping and obviously choking, 448 00:20:53,210 --> 00:20:54,310 I think it's quite a norm. 449 00:20:54,410 --> 00:20:58,660 I think it is quite a norm. It happens in porn all the time. 450 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:01,140 And I think girls pick up on it, as well, 451 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:03,210 and I think maybe because maybe girls watch porn, 452 00:21:03,310 --> 00:21:06,000 you always see the girl enjoying it and liking it 453 00:21:06,100 --> 00:21:07,550 so it's definitely something that's big. 454 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:14,310 Producer: Now we're out of the office, 455 00:21:14,410 --> 00:21:15,690 what do you really think of the photos 456 00:21:15,790 --> 00:21:16,930 that you're editing? 457 00:21:17,030 --> 00:21:18,590 - They're fucking disgusting. 458 00:21:19,340 --> 00:21:21,690 They are abhorrent. 459 00:21:21,790 --> 00:21:23,280 And a lot of these photographs, 460 00:21:23,380 --> 00:21:27,720 you can tell just by looking at a female performer's eyes, 461 00:21:27,830 --> 00:21:30,760 who's enjoying it and who's not. 462 00:21:30,860 --> 00:21:32,860 You can tell the ones that are empowered by it, 463 00:21:32,970 --> 00:21:35,550 they're like, fuck yeah, this is my life, 464 00:21:35,660 --> 00:21:37,970 this is, you know, I own this. 465 00:21:38,070 --> 00:21:40,140 This is my body and I can do whatever I want with it, 466 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:41,790 and then there's other girls that unfortunately, 467 00:21:41,900 --> 00:21:43,170 just, even some guys, 468 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:45,240 that look like, what the fuck am I doing here? 469 00:21:45,340 --> 00:21:47,310 Or, I really need to pay rent. 470 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:52,970 I've always been a huge fan of pornography 471 00:21:53,070 --> 00:21:54,410 all the way back to college. 472 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:57,410 Which was part of the reason why I was so intrigued 473 00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:59,900 to work for Evil Angel and the porn industry 474 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:03,970 because I felt like it would be celebrating life. 475 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:08,620 I took these photographs a couple of years ago, 476 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:12,690 they were friend of a friend. 477 00:22:12,790 --> 00:22:16,210 I just wanted to capture the authenticity 478 00:22:16,310 --> 00:22:18,100 of their lovemaking. 479 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:21,030 It was very nice. 480 00:22:21,140 --> 00:22:22,310 [laughs] 481 00:22:22,410 --> 00:22:23,860 Probably sounds strange to most people 482 00:22:23,970 --> 00:22:26,100 but it was very freeing 483 00:22:26,210 --> 00:22:27,480 and then I thought, you know, 484 00:22:27,590 --> 00:22:30,070 I can definitely see myself doing this for a living. 485 00:22:31,830 --> 00:22:35,310 I never watched degrading porn. 486 00:22:35,410 --> 00:22:36,720 I never sought that out, 487 00:22:36,830 --> 00:22:39,030 I didn't really know it existed. 488 00:22:40,070 --> 00:22:40,970 I knew it existed, 489 00:22:41,070 --> 00:22:43,210 I just didn't know how bad it was. 490 00:22:46,140 --> 00:22:48,760 That particular genre of porn, 491 00:22:48,860 --> 00:22:51,410 tells today's youth 492 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,690 that sex is only to be enjoyed by the man. 493 00:22:54,790 --> 00:22:57,000 He is supposed to cum in my face, 494 00:22:57,100 --> 00:22:58,790 he's supposed to slap me, 495 00:22:58,900 --> 00:23:01,030 and manhandle me 496 00:23:01,140 --> 00:23:04,790 and this is how we should expect to be treated. 497 00:23:08,170 --> 00:23:12,410 I don't think that this type of pornography 498 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:14,720 should be produced. 499 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,070 JONNI: How are you, you gotta get your stuff together. 500 00:23:19,170 --> 00:23:20,170 [indistinct chatter] 501 00:23:28,620 --> 00:23:29,660 [laughs] 502 00:23:32,140 --> 00:23:33,830 Producer: How did it go? 503 00:23:33,930 --> 00:23:34,970 - Awesome. 504 00:23:36,860 --> 00:23:40,760 - Nice meeting you. - Bye, thank you. 505 00:23:42,620 --> 00:23:43,720 - Thank you. 506 00:23:45,410 --> 00:23:47,790 Narrator: Gia grew up in a churchgoing family. 507 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:52,410 She left her hometown in Ohio to come to LA. 508 00:23:53,860 --> 00:23:55,900 [soft music] 509 00:24:00,340 --> 00:24:03,240 She's been signed to one of the industry's top agents 510 00:24:03,340 --> 00:24:07,690 and is already earning between $4000 and $6000 a week. 511 00:24:07,790 --> 00:24:10,070 She's shot almost 100 scenes. 512 00:24:12,450 --> 00:24:13,590 Producer: Now you've done so many... 513 00:24:13,690 --> 00:24:14,620 - Yeah, 514 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:16,830 ..does it feel like just kind of, pretty normal 515 00:24:16,930 --> 00:24:18,030 a normal day's work? 516 00:24:18,140 --> 00:24:19,790 - Yeah that was a normal day's work. 517 00:24:19,900 --> 00:24:21,620 It was pretty good. 518 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:26,790 I put these little like white balls in my butt today, 519 00:24:26,900 --> 00:24:29,100 and I actually haven't done that before. 520 00:24:29,210 --> 00:24:30,480 So that was fun. 521 00:24:30,590 --> 00:24:32,000 They're like ball pit balls, 522 00:24:32,100 --> 00:24:34,070 like that you like jump into like, a ball pit. 523 00:24:36,140 --> 00:24:37,280 Producer: They're quite big. 524 00:24:37,380 --> 00:24:38,930 - I think they're little small. 525 00:24:39,030 --> 00:24:41,000 I don't know, It was like a... 526 00:24:42,170 --> 00:24:43,310 Producer: I mean a lot of people would think, 527 00:24:43,410 --> 00:24:45,380 that's quite sort of crazy. 528 00:24:46,860 --> 00:24:50,310 - Like, so, no. 529 00:24:50,410 --> 00:24:51,860 I think it's get crazy. 530 00:24:51,970 --> 00:24:54,100 It might be a little, like, taboo like, 531 00:24:54,210 --> 00:24:55,970 not everyone's doing it but... 532 00:24:59,900 --> 00:25:01,930 Producer: Does that then like feed into 533 00:25:02,030 --> 00:25:03,900 your personal life? 534 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,030 - Yeah, yeah, like I feel... 535 00:25:06,140 --> 00:25:07,900 Producer: Does porn sex and non-porn sex sort of... 536 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:09,690 - Intertwine, yeah. 537 00:25:09,790 --> 00:25:12,240 I feel like my sexuality 538 00:25:12,340 --> 00:25:16,380 is just like so, so much broader, 539 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,590 like it's just porn has opened, 540 00:25:18,690 --> 00:25:21,310 actually doing porn, has opened up so many like, 541 00:25:21,410 --> 00:25:22,720 sexual doors for me, 542 00:25:22,830 --> 00:25:24,030 that I didn't even know that I... 543 00:25:24,140 --> 00:25:25,590 Or lines that I didn't even know that like, 544 00:25:25,690 --> 00:25:27,210 I wanted to cross, like. 545 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,000 Yeah. Definitely. 546 00:25:32,790 --> 00:25:34,030 - When I first got in the business. 547 00:25:34,140 --> 00:25:37,030 It was like people who came to LA to be an actor 548 00:25:37,140 --> 00:25:40,170 or this, that and, kind of got waylaid 549 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,450 and kinda fell into the business. 550 00:25:42,550 --> 00:25:46,690 But now, with the advent of the Internet, 551 00:25:46,790 --> 00:25:52,690 it's more you can see girls desire to be in porn, 552 00:25:52,790 --> 00:25:54,310 that's their goal. 553 00:25:54,410 --> 00:25:57,280 They research it, they watch it, they you know, 554 00:25:57,380 --> 00:26:02,140 they're not falling into it, that is what they aspire to do. 555 00:26:03,550 --> 00:26:05,860 For me I like to sit down and talk to them 556 00:26:05,970 --> 00:26:07,520 and I wanna know like, 557 00:26:07,620 --> 00:26:10,030 besides that they're business minded, 558 00:26:10,140 --> 00:26:11,550 I want to know that they're perverts. 559 00:26:11,660 --> 00:26:13,450 Because I want them to be doing this 560 00:26:13,550 --> 00:26:15,280 because it's what they really like to do, 561 00:26:15,380 --> 00:26:17,900 because they will last much longer. 562 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:21,140 But when I talk to them, yeah I'll do double vag, 563 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:22,760 I'll do ass to mouth, 564 00:26:22,860 --> 00:26:25,310 I'll do DP, ATM, 565 00:26:25,410 --> 00:26:27,720 I'll do, you know, 566 00:26:27,830 --> 00:26:29,620 cum swapping, all this, all that, 567 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:30,660 and if the girl, 568 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:32,590 and I'm like, have you done porn before? 569 00:26:32,690 --> 00:26:33,970 They say no, I just turned 18. 570 00:26:35,450 --> 00:26:37,480 [soft music] 571 00:26:43,310 --> 00:26:45,520 Gia: In school, as soon as I hit puberty 572 00:26:45,620 --> 00:26:48,410 I was immediately like labelled a whore, 573 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:50,930 and 'cause I had this big butt 574 00:26:51,030 --> 00:26:53,860 and like guys would literally walk up to me in the hallway 575 00:26:53,970 --> 00:26:55,690 and just like smack it or grab it. 576 00:26:55,790 --> 00:26:59,030 And I had so much anxiety, I didn't know how to handle that 577 00:26:59,140 --> 00:27:00,900 so, I just accepted that I was a whore, 578 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:02,280 like in eighth grade 579 00:27:02,380 --> 00:27:04,790 because that's what everyone said. 580 00:27:04,900 --> 00:27:08,140 So, watching porn during that time 581 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,520 made me feel like I wasn't alone, 582 00:27:10,620 --> 00:27:14,790 and it made me feel like it wasn't necessarily wrong 583 00:27:14,900 --> 00:27:16,900 to have sexual desires 584 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:20,000 and it wasn't necessarily wrong to have sex. 585 00:27:22,030 --> 00:27:24,690 I really hated myself for the longest time 586 00:27:24,790 --> 00:27:28,140 because like I wanted sex all the time. 587 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:29,900 And that was wrong. 588 00:27:32,620 --> 00:27:34,100 Being in porn I just fit in, 589 00:27:34,210 --> 00:27:37,310 and everyone else like, has the same like sexual desires 590 00:27:37,410 --> 00:27:39,340 and urges that I have. 591 00:27:39,450 --> 00:27:41,620 So it's kind of nice to be around that. 592 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,140 Narrator: It's almost as if porn has given Gia a way 593 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,170 to own her sexuality. 594 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:50,620 To reclaim it. 595 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:52,970 From the schoolkids who used to taunt her. 596 00:27:55,340 --> 00:27:56,410 For now at least, 597 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,140 she's in a world where she feels accepted. 598 00:28:01,210 --> 00:28:03,690 - Trying to think, I remember the first time. 599 00:28:03,790 --> 00:28:04,830 - Do you? 600 00:28:04,930 --> 00:28:06,140 - We watched porn but I remember 601 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,590 because the one's that you, 602 00:28:08,690 --> 00:28:10,340 it was you that chose it. 603 00:28:10,450 --> 00:28:11,480 - That French couple. - Yeah. 604 00:28:11,590 --> 00:28:13,030 And it's a couple of basically... 605 00:28:13,140 --> 00:28:14,070 - Really hot. 606 00:28:14,170 --> 00:28:16,030 I just remember propping the phone up, 607 00:28:16,140 --> 00:28:17,070 watching porn, 608 00:28:17,170 --> 00:28:18,590 and then you were like... 609 00:28:18,690 --> 00:28:20,280 - Yeah, I think it literally was, 610 00:28:20,380 --> 00:28:23,240 - it was like on the pillow. - Yeah. 611 00:28:23,340 --> 00:28:24,900 - You were on all fours. - On all fours. 612 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,860 - And I was kind of over-the-top behind 613 00:28:27,970 --> 00:28:31,970 I got the view of the porn for both of us. 614 00:28:32,070 --> 00:28:35,170 - Yeah. It was nice. - On a tiny little phone. 615 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,100 Narrator: For Freddie and Tracy, watching porn together 616 00:28:38,210 --> 00:28:40,000 has been a big part of their relationship 617 00:28:40,100 --> 00:28:42,310 since they met a year ago. 618 00:28:42,410 --> 00:28:43,720 It's something they enjoy. 619 00:28:47,830 --> 00:28:50,340 But porn can often be very secretive 620 00:28:50,450 --> 00:28:52,590 and grow into something compulsive. 621 00:28:55,100 --> 00:28:57,240 - So I have this on all my devices, 622 00:28:57,340 --> 00:28:59,410 it's called 'Accountable To You'. 623 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,550 And it just looks like this icon here on my phone, 624 00:29:02,660 --> 00:29:03,900 so I've got all my normal, 625 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:05,860 got Facebook on there, got me Chelsea app, 626 00:29:05,970 --> 00:29:07,410 and then that, 'Accountable to You' 627 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:08,930 it's on my phone, 628 00:29:09,030 --> 00:29:11,410 but Lydia's my accountability partner. 629 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:13,140 So, for example, 630 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:17,140 because if I was to type on any of my devices, 631 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:21,000 'porn' or even words like 'sex' or... 632 00:29:21,100 --> 00:29:22,590 ..even 'addiction', anything. 633 00:29:22,690 --> 00:29:25,170 'Addiction', it would flag up a warning. 634 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,690 Producer: So does that ping on your phone then? 635 00:29:27,790 --> 00:29:28,720 - Yeah. 636 00:29:28,830 --> 00:29:29,720 Producer: And then do you look at it? 637 00:29:29,830 --> 00:29:30,760 - Yeah. 638 00:29:30,860 --> 00:29:33,830 So it will say like, questionable activity, 639 00:29:33,930 --> 00:29:35,930 and that's on his phone. 640 00:29:36,030 --> 00:29:38,170 So even like voice searches 641 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:39,790 if it can be questionable at all, 642 00:29:39,900 --> 00:29:42,410 it will flag something up, and send me an email. 643 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,720 Producer: So, you obviously felt you needed that. 644 00:29:44,830 --> 00:29:45,830 - Yeah. - Yeah. 645 00:29:45,930 --> 00:29:48,900 Producer: What was that giving you by having that app? 646 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:50,970 - This program for me, 647 00:29:51,070 --> 00:29:52,100 helped me so that, 648 00:29:52,210 --> 00:29:54,720 I remember days in the recovery process 649 00:29:54,830 --> 00:29:59,170 where I would want to watch porn and if I had access to porn, 650 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,070 without my wife finding out, 651 00:30:01,170 --> 00:30:02,830 I probably would have turned to it, 652 00:30:02,930 --> 00:30:03,970 I would have given in. 653 00:30:04,070 --> 00:30:06,240 Not being able to get away with it 654 00:30:06,340 --> 00:30:07,240 in that moment, 655 00:30:07,340 --> 00:30:10,380 was kind of the final ability to say no. 656 00:30:12,930 --> 00:30:15,620 Narrator: Rob would regularly spend two or three hours 657 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:17,520 looking for the perfect video. 658 00:30:17,620 --> 00:30:20,900 While Lydia lay asleep up in bed. 659 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,590 But that perfect video didn't exist. 660 00:30:23,690 --> 00:30:26,240 Because there is always one more to watch. 661 00:30:28,100 --> 00:30:29,930 There's disagreement as to whether porn 662 00:30:30,030 --> 00:30:31,760 should be classified as addictive. 663 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:34,620 What's not in doubt, 664 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:36,690 is that there are many like Rob 665 00:30:36,790 --> 00:30:39,590 whose porn use has become compulsive. 666 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:41,900 - For me, personally, 667 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:46,070 pornography started when I was teenager. 668 00:30:46,170 --> 00:30:49,830 I went through, I then got into a relationship, 669 00:30:49,930 --> 00:30:52,310 where I continued to use pornography. 670 00:30:52,410 --> 00:30:55,520 And it caused a lot of tension 671 00:30:55,620 --> 00:31:00,550 she'd find images on my phone, you know, videos. 672 00:31:00,660 --> 00:31:03,590 It broke her inside because she loved me. 673 00:31:03,690 --> 00:31:07,140 And she wanted to be the only woman 674 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:11,720 that that I had saw, you know in that way. 675 00:31:11,830 --> 00:31:13,450 - I remember porn that, you know, 676 00:31:13,550 --> 00:31:18,790 you would see a certain porn and it would be so arousing, 677 00:31:18,900 --> 00:31:20,100 you know, like they're all arousing, 678 00:31:20,210 --> 00:31:22,170 but then there's that one video of some like, 679 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,480 whoa, that just ticked every single possible box. 680 00:31:25,590 --> 00:31:27,480 Like that woman looked the way you want it, 681 00:31:27,590 --> 00:31:28,620 that act, that everything. 682 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,310 And it's kind of like, years later, 683 00:31:31,410 --> 00:31:32,340 that still, 684 00:31:32,450 --> 00:31:37,030 I mean if I let myself now, I could go to those memories. 685 00:31:37,140 --> 00:31:39,930 I don't because I have this thing in my head 686 00:31:40,030 --> 00:31:42,070 I feel like the thought's like a dog on a lead, 687 00:31:42,170 --> 00:31:44,340 and I keep that, if that thought tries to get off, 688 00:31:44,450 --> 00:31:45,480 I'm like, yank that thought, 689 00:31:45,590 --> 00:31:47,830 I don't let it go anywhere now. 690 00:31:47,930 --> 00:31:49,860 - So do you think when you see a guy, 691 00:31:49,970 --> 00:31:52,000 from that perspective and there's a girl, 692 00:31:52,100 --> 00:31:54,070 do you think that guy is you, then? 693 00:31:54,170 --> 00:31:56,310 - Well, yeah I'd say that's how you imagine it, 694 00:31:56,410 --> 00:31:59,310 so if you're watching point of view porn, 695 00:31:59,410 --> 00:32:00,930 you're imagining you're the person 696 00:32:01,030 --> 00:32:02,100 who's in that situation. 697 00:32:02,210 --> 00:32:04,790 - That's how I would do it. - Yeah. 698 00:32:04,900 --> 00:32:07,100 So, you're thinking of having sex with other women 699 00:32:07,210 --> 00:32:08,660 - when you're watching it? - No, of course not. 700 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:10,450 [laughs] 701 00:32:10,550 --> 00:32:14,720 You're not thinking about it, but you're almost trying to, 702 00:32:14,830 --> 00:32:15,900 you know, you're thinking... 703 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:17,240 - You're in that position. 704 00:32:17,340 --> 00:32:19,310 - Yeah, like that's your scenario. 705 00:32:19,410 --> 00:32:22,520 - I just think I'm watching other people having sex, 706 00:32:22,620 --> 00:32:23,930 that's how I see porn. 707 00:32:24,030 --> 00:32:24,930 - Yeah. 708 00:32:25,030 --> 00:32:28,450 - As opposed to I'm in the porn. 709 00:32:28,550 --> 00:32:30,100 I don't think that's my vagina. 710 00:32:30,210 --> 00:32:31,100 - Yeah. 711 00:32:31,210 --> 00:32:33,030 - But you think that's your cock when you're watching it. 712 00:32:33,140 --> 00:32:34,590 - I guess you do. 713 00:32:34,690 --> 00:32:36,590 You're not watching something 714 00:32:36,690 --> 00:32:39,280 because you're wanting to sit outside of a situation 715 00:32:39,380 --> 00:32:41,210 and just look in and watch it, 716 00:32:41,310 --> 00:32:43,170 I would have thought everybody 717 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,310 trying to put themselves into that scenario. 718 00:32:45,410 --> 00:32:47,720 As opposed to sit back out of it 719 00:32:47,830 --> 00:32:50,550 and kind of watches it from the fence. 720 00:32:50,660 --> 00:32:53,100 - Why is porn wrong? Why is it harmful? 721 00:32:53,210 --> 00:32:56,240 I mean one of the things I feel, the biggest issue about it 722 00:32:56,340 --> 00:32:59,480 is it completely separates sex and love. 723 00:32:59,590 --> 00:33:03,310 And ultimately if you build something just on that, 724 00:33:03,410 --> 00:33:04,930 it becomes very empty 725 00:33:05,030 --> 00:33:07,210 and it becomes very shallow and unsatisfying, 726 00:33:07,310 --> 00:33:09,690 and basically what porn is doing is selling people a lie 727 00:33:09,790 --> 00:33:10,830 and a fantasy. 728 00:33:10,930 --> 00:33:13,830 - For me, it got to a point where I'm looking at women 729 00:33:13,930 --> 00:33:16,590 and all I'm seeing is, you know, boobs and bum, 730 00:33:16,690 --> 00:33:20,340 that's all I'm seeing, I'm not seeing the person. 731 00:33:20,450 --> 00:33:23,000 And that's what people are looking at, you know, 732 00:33:23,100 --> 00:33:26,030 women are just objects now, now today. 733 00:33:26,140 --> 00:33:29,450 - I've had partners before, you know, previous life, 734 00:33:29,550 --> 00:33:30,860 and we've watched porn together 735 00:33:30,970 --> 00:33:33,280 because that partner has said I want to, 736 00:33:33,380 --> 00:33:37,030 or has agreed and said it's fine. 737 00:33:37,140 --> 00:33:39,240 And then I even remember one particular person, 738 00:33:39,340 --> 00:33:42,790 months later, major, major row 739 00:33:42,900 --> 00:33:44,590 because, you know, like insecurities 740 00:33:44,690 --> 00:33:46,140 really kicked into her. 741 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,660 Oh, you were thinking about porn when we were doing, 742 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:49,930 you know, just having sex then, 743 00:33:50,030 --> 00:33:52,860 so although they're saying it's fine, couples, 744 00:33:52,970 --> 00:33:56,450 it is definitely putting in somebody's insecurity, 745 00:33:56,550 --> 00:33:57,860 I'm not enough. 746 00:33:57,970 --> 00:34:00,280 - I'd always had like, I'd been around people 747 00:34:00,380 --> 00:34:01,410 that would say, 748 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:03,070 I don't need to look at porn magazines, 749 00:34:03,170 --> 00:34:04,310 because that's cheating. 750 00:34:04,410 --> 00:34:05,690 Like they would say to their partners. 751 00:34:05,790 --> 00:34:07,660 And I think, how is it cheating 752 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:09,930 when you're looking at other people, 753 00:34:10,030 --> 00:34:12,760 like, you're not texting somebody 754 00:34:12,860 --> 00:34:15,380 or seeing somebody or sleeping with somebody, 755 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,240 you are viewing other couples. 756 00:34:18,340 --> 00:34:19,790 So to me, I really struggled 757 00:34:19,900 --> 00:34:23,830 to see how women wouldn't allow their husbands to look at porn. 758 00:34:23,930 --> 00:34:25,410 And I thought, that's really weird. 759 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:27,070 But now we've had like this revelation, 760 00:34:27,170 --> 00:34:30,280 where he's like I'm thinking about fucking all these women. 761 00:34:30,380 --> 00:34:34,280 - I'm not thinking about it. It's a subconscious feeling. 762 00:34:34,380 --> 00:34:35,860 - You know, I didn't know you viewed it like that, 763 00:34:35,970 --> 00:34:37,900 I thought you were just being a peeping Tom also, 764 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:39,140 watching a couple having sex, 765 00:34:39,240 --> 00:34:42,480 not you thinking that woman's riding me. 766 00:34:42,590 --> 00:34:45,070 Yeah, I never saw it as a cheating thing. 767 00:34:45,170 --> 00:34:48,590 But actually if you are then fantasising about having sex 768 00:34:48,690 --> 00:34:50,340 with multiple women, 769 00:34:50,450 --> 00:34:52,970 that probably is something you shouldn't do. 770 00:34:53,070 --> 00:34:54,000 - But it wouldn't be cheating, 771 00:34:54,100 --> 00:34:55,620 unless something actually happened. 772 00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,520 Narrator: Only you know what you're really thinking 773 00:34:59,620 --> 00:35:00,860 when you look at porn. 774 00:35:00,970 --> 00:35:03,000 [soft music] 775 00:35:05,590 --> 00:35:08,520 But whether it's divisive or not... 776 00:35:08,620 --> 00:35:10,520 ..while there's money to be made, 777 00:35:10,620 --> 00:35:14,450 pornographers are going to keep on making it. 778 00:35:14,550 --> 00:35:16,660 Man: "You are the owner of Evil Angel 779 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:18,620 "studio pornography. 780 00:35:18,720 --> 00:35:20,410 "Your job before was male stripper 781 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:22,310 "and porn actor which was immoral 782 00:35:22,410 --> 00:35:23,830 "and disgusting. 783 00:35:23,930 --> 00:35:25,760 "Your company now, Evil Angel, 784 00:35:25,860 --> 00:35:28,760 "is an evil, bad production company. 785 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,930 "You Mr John, are a sinner, adulterer 786 00:35:33,030 --> 00:35:35,030 "and sexually immoral person. 787 00:35:35,140 --> 00:35:37,410 "Your product porn sex, is full of lust 788 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,450 "that makes Americans become pervert, nasty, 789 00:35:40,550 --> 00:35:42,620 "adulterer fornicators." 790 00:35:42,720 --> 00:35:44,480 See, this is the guilt I have to live with. 791 00:35:44,590 --> 00:35:45,520 It's horrible. 792 00:35:45,620 --> 00:35:48,590 Let's see right here, "Again, sin always hurts 793 00:35:48,690 --> 00:35:51,310 "and pornography hurts marriage, 794 00:35:51,410 --> 00:35:52,520 "families and children." 795 00:35:52,620 --> 00:35:53,660 Oh God. 796 00:35:55,620 --> 00:35:58,000 It is a controversial area, you know. 797 00:35:59,860 --> 00:36:01,380 Pornography. 798 00:36:02,310 --> 00:36:04,210 Maybe he's right. 799 00:36:04,310 --> 00:36:05,620 Producer: Where is your responsibility 800 00:36:05,720 --> 00:36:08,030 as a producer and distributer? 801 00:36:08,140 --> 00:36:10,690 - So there's a hubris involved 802 00:36:10,790 --> 00:36:14,450 with thinking that you know what's best for other people. 803 00:36:14,550 --> 00:36:16,860 And I try and be careful 804 00:36:16,970 --> 00:36:19,000 not to have too much of that in my life. 805 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:24,410 Porn, democratises pleasure. 806 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:26,590 Pornography is stuff for the masses of people, 807 00:36:26,690 --> 00:36:27,620 for poor people, 808 00:36:27,720 --> 00:36:30,860 for the average person to get pleasure out of sex. 809 00:36:30,970 --> 00:36:34,550 Which used to be only restricted to like King Henry the Eighth. 810 00:36:34,660 --> 00:36:36,030 Or things like that. 811 00:36:36,140 --> 00:36:38,860 People who could just indulge in their sexual fantasies, 812 00:36:38,970 --> 00:36:41,720 now the common man can get off sexually. 813 00:36:41,830 --> 00:36:43,000 And I think that's the great thing 814 00:36:43,100 --> 00:36:44,140 about pornography. 815 00:36:45,930 --> 00:36:47,970 [suspenseful music] 816 00:36:54,030 --> 00:36:56,450 - You put saline solution like in your eyes? 817 00:36:56,550 --> 00:36:57,860 - Yeah. 818 00:36:57,970 --> 00:36:59,900 - Is that a thing? - Yeah. 819 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:01,170 [laughs] 820 00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:03,070 It's sterile, so it cleans. 821 00:37:03,170 --> 00:37:04,720 - And does it hurt? - No. 822 00:37:05,900 --> 00:37:08,170 Narrator: Gianna is 21. 823 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:11,550 She started her porn career a few months after Gia. 824 00:37:11,660 --> 00:37:13,100 They share the same agent. 825 00:37:14,550 --> 00:37:17,720 Producer: What's, tell me about your eye? 826 00:37:17,830 --> 00:37:22,240 - Oh, I have an eye infection because a guy came in my eyes. 827 00:37:22,340 --> 00:37:23,380 [laughs] 828 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:28,480 Today is the first day that it hasn't been like, 829 00:37:28,590 --> 00:37:30,100 excruciating pain. 830 00:37:30,210 --> 00:37:32,520 But yeah for like the past four, five days 831 00:37:32,620 --> 00:37:33,930 it's been like, 832 00:37:34,030 --> 00:37:36,070 I couldn't open my eyes in the morning. 833 00:37:37,340 --> 00:37:39,340 Yeah, and when I look into bright light, 834 00:37:39,450 --> 00:37:40,520 feels like I'm blind. 835 00:37:41,690 --> 00:37:42,620 So yeah. 836 00:37:42,720 --> 00:37:45,410 0/10 recommend getting cum in your eye. 837 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:46,830 It's not a fun time. 838 00:37:46,930 --> 00:37:48,030 Producer: Does that happen often? 839 00:37:48,140 --> 00:37:50,310 - To me it does, yeah. 840 00:37:50,410 --> 00:37:53,450 'Cause a lot of the cum shots are like on your face. 841 00:37:53,550 --> 00:37:55,210 So it's kind of hard to not get it in your eye. 842 00:37:55,310 --> 00:37:56,450 Producer: Has it happened to you as well? 843 00:37:56,550 --> 00:38:00,660 - Yeah, all the time. All the time. 844 00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:02,690 There just has, yeah. 845 00:38:02,790 --> 00:38:04,480 They're just, yeah. 846 00:38:04,590 --> 00:38:06,380 Have no aim. 847 00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:08,590 - I hate it. - You do? 848 00:38:08,690 --> 00:38:10,140 - Mostly because it gets in my eyes, 849 00:38:10,240 --> 00:38:11,140 like I don't really care 850 00:38:11,240 --> 00:38:12,480 if it's on the rest of my face. 851 00:38:12,590 --> 00:38:13,830 - Oh my god. Producer: Can you request 852 00:38:13,930 --> 00:38:17,000 for that not to be how it ends? 853 00:38:17,100 --> 00:38:19,100 - Yeah, but they probably wouldn't like it. 854 00:38:20,170 --> 00:38:22,830 They'd probably just be like, oh well. 855 00:38:22,930 --> 00:38:25,660 - 'Cause they're paying us for the scene like, 856 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,550 they have a certain way they want the scene to go so. 857 00:38:28,660 --> 00:38:31,900 - This is a lovely breakfast conversation. 858 00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:32,930 [laughs] 859 00:38:33,030 --> 00:38:34,030 - Right. 860 00:38:36,240 --> 00:38:37,410 Narrator: Back in the 70s, 861 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:39,660 you'd only really see what's become known as 862 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:40,900 the money shot, 863 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,410 in a hard-core porn film. 864 00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:47,450 But now almost every porn scene finishes this way. 865 00:38:47,550 --> 00:38:48,900 It's standard practice. 866 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,030 Producer: Can you just have a look at this clip, 867 00:38:52,140 --> 00:38:55,590 this is from like an anti-porn campaigner. 868 00:38:55,690 --> 00:38:57,170 And just tell us what you think. 869 00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:58,760 It's only about 40 seconds. 870 00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,280 Woman: So what do we see in mainstream porn? 871 00:39:06,380 --> 00:39:10,210 Gagging, rough anal sex, ejaculation on face, 872 00:39:10,310 --> 00:39:14,030 ATM, hair pulling, and spitting in her face. 873 00:39:14,140 --> 00:39:17,380 So the standard porn scene, one woman, three men, 874 00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:18,860 she's being gagged, 875 00:39:18,970 --> 00:39:20,930 she's being penetrated, orally, anally, 876 00:39:21,030 --> 00:39:23,280 and then they all ejaculate on her face. 877 00:39:23,380 --> 00:39:25,100 Producer: What do you think about what she's saying? 878 00:39:25,210 --> 00:39:28,340 - It's two different people's opinions on it. 879 00:39:28,450 --> 00:39:30,830 So the way she's, like obviously she's saying that 880 00:39:30,930 --> 00:39:32,720 it sounds absolutely disgusting, 881 00:39:32,830 --> 00:39:35,140 it sounds like the three men are forcing a woman 882 00:39:35,240 --> 00:39:37,100 to do whatever they want to do. 883 00:39:37,210 --> 00:39:40,170 Obviously, dirty stuff as well, but at the same time, 884 00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:41,690 what she's not saying, 885 00:39:41,790 --> 00:39:44,310 the woman could be the one wanting that to happen, 886 00:39:44,410 --> 00:39:46,790 so it's different ways of viewing it. 887 00:39:46,900 --> 00:39:48,720 - The thing is, you know, excuse me, 888 00:39:48,830 --> 00:39:51,170 you know it's porn, that's the thing. 889 00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:52,520 It's not like, 890 00:39:52,620 --> 00:39:54,550 like I've never watched porn and thought, like, 891 00:39:54,660 --> 00:39:56,550 I'm gonna force do that, 892 00:39:56,660 --> 00:39:59,380 like unless someone like, likes it or not. 893 00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:01,240 Because I know it's porn, I know it's fake, 894 00:40:01,340 --> 00:40:02,310 I know it's acting, like, 895 00:40:02,410 --> 00:40:04,100 it's just, that's just, 896 00:40:04,210 --> 00:40:06,000 it's just there, some people like that, 897 00:40:06,100 --> 00:40:07,140 some people don't. 898 00:40:14,860 --> 00:40:16,520 Narrator: Gianna's continued working 899 00:40:16,620 --> 00:40:18,210 despite the eye infection. 900 00:40:19,380 --> 00:40:21,480 Gia's been forced to take some time out. 901 00:40:21,590 --> 00:40:22,620 - OK. 902 00:40:23,660 --> 00:40:25,720 I need to empty this. 903 00:40:25,830 --> 00:40:27,280 I'm disgusting. 904 00:40:27,380 --> 00:40:28,480 [laughs] 905 00:40:30,620 --> 00:40:33,170 So the gynaecologist that I went to, 906 00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:35,760 told me that I can't have any penetration 907 00:40:35,860 --> 00:40:37,590 for at least a month. 908 00:40:37,690 --> 00:40:39,660 Basically I tore my cervix. 909 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:44,000 And I might, also my bladder was really beat up. 910 00:40:44,100 --> 00:40:45,070 Like beaten up, 911 00:40:45,170 --> 00:40:48,410 it was just like my insides were just like beaten up. 912 00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:49,450 Really. 913 00:40:49,550 --> 00:40:50,450 Producer: From too much sex? 914 00:40:50,550 --> 00:40:53,000 - Yeah, from too much porno sex. 915 00:40:53,100 --> 00:40:54,660 Pretty much. 916 00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,690 I went from having sex like maybe once a week, 917 00:40:57,790 --> 00:41:00,280 to having sex like a lot. 918 00:41:00,380 --> 00:41:03,720 And just like really hard like pounding, yeah. 919 00:41:03,830 --> 00:41:04,930 Probably. 920 00:41:05,030 --> 00:41:07,140 Also a lot of the dicks were a lot bigger 921 00:41:07,240 --> 00:41:09,620 than I've ever had, like in my life, so. 922 00:41:09,720 --> 00:41:11,030 Producer: Sounds really painful. 923 00:41:11,140 --> 00:41:15,030 - It was very painful yeah, it's painful. 924 00:41:15,140 --> 00:41:16,450 It's really painful. 925 00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:22,660 Producer: Is there any like, long-term... 926 00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:24,480 - I don't think so. Producer: ..impacts of that? 927 00:41:24,590 --> 00:41:25,660 I don't think so. 928 00:41:28,070 --> 00:41:31,000 Producer: Did that kind of cross your mind, like? 929 00:41:31,100 --> 00:41:32,830 - Um, yeah I guess. 930 00:41:32,930 --> 00:41:37,930 I mean even with like STDs and stuff, well STI's, 931 00:41:38,030 --> 00:41:40,830 like, chlamydia and gonorrhoea 932 00:41:40,930 --> 00:41:44,480 can affect your, your body. 933 00:41:44,590 --> 00:41:47,380 In negative long-term ways I guess. 934 00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:49,410 With fertility and stuff. 935 00:41:50,930 --> 00:41:52,660 Producer: Is that quite scary? 936 00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:54,830 - Yeah. Yeah it is. 937 00:41:54,930 --> 00:41:57,310 But, I mean, I don't really want kids. 938 00:41:57,410 --> 00:42:00,340 But at the end, it is still like, pretty fucked up. 939 00:42:00,450 --> 00:42:02,900 Because like, it's inevitable. 940 00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:04,210 It goes around. 941 00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:21,310 Most people work in like office buildings, 942 00:42:21,410 --> 00:42:24,210 they have sad, sad lives. 943 00:42:24,310 --> 00:42:27,860 I didn't want to be stuck in an office for my whole life. 944 00:42:27,970 --> 00:42:31,070 You know, this is just what I want to do, 945 00:42:31,170 --> 00:42:33,660 like I can't see myself doing anything else. 946 00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:35,550 Paparazzi: Right here! Right here! 947 00:42:35,660 --> 00:42:36,790 Sound of my voice, sound of my voice, 948 00:42:36,900 --> 00:42:37,790 sound of my voice. 949 00:42:37,900 --> 00:42:39,690 Gia: I have wanted to do porn 950 00:42:39,790 --> 00:42:42,030 since I was in like seventh grade. 951 00:42:42,140 --> 00:42:43,970 So it's just like something 952 00:42:44,070 --> 00:42:46,830 that I've been so passionate about. 953 00:42:46,930 --> 00:42:48,480 It's not really like fame, 954 00:42:48,590 --> 00:42:51,240 like I'd rather have like the money 955 00:42:51,340 --> 00:42:53,070 than the recognition, probably, 956 00:42:53,170 --> 00:42:55,760 just because like, to survive. 957 00:42:55,860 --> 00:42:58,450 And to live comfortably. 958 00:42:58,550 --> 00:43:01,590 - These girls can make more money than a doctor, 959 00:43:01,690 --> 00:43:04,170 without having to go through the degree. 960 00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:07,620 If they're smart, listen and pay attention, 961 00:43:07,720 --> 00:43:11,660 then they can make a good living for quite a long time. 962 00:43:13,340 --> 00:43:14,900 Narrator: But in the Internet age, 963 00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:18,340 the shelf life of a porn actor like Gia is uncertain. 964 00:43:20,720 --> 00:43:24,070 It could be a matter of months or a few years if she's lucky. 965 00:43:26,140 --> 00:43:29,240 The millions of online viewers are constantly searching 966 00:43:29,340 --> 00:43:31,070 for the next new thing. 967 00:43:31,170 --> 00:43:32,660 The next new Gia. 968 00:43:36,900 --> 00:43:40,240 Fallon has already walked away from porn. 969 00:43:40,340 --> 00:43:42,550 The impact of looking at hard-core content 970 00:43:42,660 --> 00:43:44,340 has proved too much. 971 00:43:44,450 --> 00:43:46,830 She's now quit her job with Evil Angel. 972 00:43:48,860 --> 00:43:52,930 - I just felt like I met my limit. 973 00:43:54,860 --> 00:43:58,450 In fact I think I went over my limit. 974 00:43:58,550 --> 00:44:03,280 Narrator: Rob is continuing to fight the urge to watch porn. 975 00:44:03,380 --> 00:44:06,830 Throughout his life, he's struggled with addictions. 976 00:44:06,930 --> 00:44:09,070 Rob: This battle has been intense 977 00:44:09,170 --> 00:44:10,620 and it went on for years. 978 00:44:12,170 --> 00:44:16,310 And I would say by far the hardest drug 979 00:44:16,410 --> 00:44:18,590 I ever had to get off was pornography. 980 00:44:18,690 --> 00:44:19,930 By far. 981 00:44:21,660 --> 00:44:26,000 I don't think porn just stops the minute you stop looking, 982 00:44:26,100 --> 00:44:29,480 it's deeply embedded in the brain pattern. 983 00:44:32,900 --> 00:44:35,620 There's another woman in the room. You know. 984 00:44:35,720 --> 00:44:37,550 So you know I call porn, the other woman. 985 00:44:44,340 --> 00:44:45,860 I don't think you'll have much luck here, 986 00:44:45,970 --> 00:44:47,450 at all sincerely. 987 00:44:47,550 --> 00:44:49,520 We're just gonna say it's your first scene, 988 00:44:49,620 --> 00:44:51,000 and this is your um... 989 00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:54,140 ..introductory shoot. 990 00:44:54,240 --> 00:44:56,170 OK, so there's no pressure on it. 991 00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:57,240 - Yeah. 992 00:44:57,340 --> 00:44:58,720 - It's hot girl. 993 00:44:58,830 --> 00:45:00,450 And you're gonna fuck her. 994 00:45:00,550 --> 00:45:03,100 Like, I'm serious, like no pressure. 995 00:45:03,210 --> 00:45:04,620 - OK. - Right. 996 00:45:07,170 --> 00:45:11,830 - If I didn't think that I couldn't make $50-$60,000 997 00:45:11,930 --> 00:45:13,140 a month, 998 00:45:13,240 --> 00:45:15,170 if I didn't think I could do that, 999 00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:16,550 I wouldn't be doing this. 1000 00:45:16,660 --> 00:45:20,280 - Do not abdicate your responsibility 1001 00:45:20,380 --> 00:45:24,100 to educate on what sex is 1002 00:45:24,210 --> 00:45:25,720 and therefore what is porn is. 1003 00:45:25,830 --> 00:45:27,970 - It's his first time, how are you feeling? 1004 00:45:29,690 --> 00:45:30,970 - I don't really know. 1005 00:45:31,070 --> 00:45:32,860 I let you know in an hour. 1006 00:45:32,970 --> 00:45:34,000 [laughs] 1007 00:45:58,030 --> 00:46:01,100 Captioned by Ai-Media ai-media.tv 74965

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