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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:01:38,432 --> 00:01:41,393 In my heart, I always knew what was right. 2 00:01:42,186 --> 00:01:46,398 I never had a doubt of who God was or who the devil was. 3 00:01:46,732 --> 00:01:50,069 Because of that, I had a moral compass. 4 00:01:50,152 --> 00:01:52,071 There were things I wouldn't do. 5 00:01:52,488 --> 00:01:55,407 And maybe I created Alice to do those things. 6 00:02:36,282 --> 00:02:38,576 I was the biggest rock star in the world. 7 00:02:38,659 --> 00:02:41,370 But this Alice character nearly killed me. 8 00:02:42,121 --> 00:02:44,331 It's hard to believe I fell so far. 9 00:02:52,256 --> 00:02:58,262 Before I was Alice, I was Vincent Furnier and I lived a really all-American childhood. 10 00:02:59,138 --> 00:03:00,347 My dad was a pastor, 11 00:03:00,431 --> 00:03:04,059 so I was in church on Wednesday night, Friday night, all day Sunday. 12 00:03:04,435 --> 00:03:06,937 And I didn't lie, steal or swear. 13 00:03:07,396 --> 00:03:09,481 I was the perfect '50s kid. 14 00:03:09,899 --> 00:03:11,483 But I grew up in Detroit. 15 00:03:12,026 --> 00:03:16,363 So cars, street violence and rock 'n' roll music was in the DNA. 16 00:03:37,509 --> 00:03:39,470 I was sort of a frail kid. 17 00:03:39,678 --> 00:03:43,599 I had asthma, really bad. And every winter, I was under an inhaler. 18 00:03:43,933 --> 00:03:45,309 Finally the doctor said, 19 00:03:45,392 --> 00:03:47,978 "Get him out of this cold climate, get him some place hot." 20 00:03:48,312 --> 00:03:49,939 And that was Phoenix. 21 00:04:03,077 --> 00:04:05,955 My very being here was a miracle. 22 00:04:06,497 --> 00:04:10,542 I had appendicitis so bad, the doctor said, "I don't know how he's alive right now. 23 00:04:10,626 --> 00:04:12,211 "There's so much poison in his system. 24 00:04:12,753 --> 00:04:15,172 "I can't guarantee he's going to survive this." 25 00:04:15,798 --> 00:04:18,759 My mom and dad were literally on the floor praying. 26 00:04:19,385 --> 00:04:21,303 The next day, they walked in 27 00:04:21,345 --> 00:04:25,266 and I was sitting up, chewing gum, and reading an Archie Comic. 28 00:04:35,693 --> 00:04:38,696 After they had done the operation, I had this huge scar. 29 00:04:38,779 --> 00:04:40,698 God said, "I'm gonna put this mark on you." 30 00:04:40,739 --> 00:04:44,827 Every time I'd look at my scar, I knew that my life was a miracle. 31 00:05:29,538 --> 00:05:33,417 The story of Alice Cooper really begins in high school art class. 32 00:05:33,584 --> 00:05:36,587 In school, I was always drawing, that's all I did. 33 00:05:36,670 --> 00:05:38,172 I just drew, drew and drew. 34 00:05:38,255 --> 00:05:40,591 And that's how I met a character named Dennis Dunaway, 35 00:05:40,883 --> 00:05:42,926 who immediately became my best friend. 36 00:05:46,597 --> 00:05:51,268 I was in art class, and here comes this skinny little guy 37 00:05:51,352 --> 00:05:53,771 who is the only one in the class 38 00:05:53,812 --> 00:05:59,068 that seems to be interested in Surrealism and dada art. 39 00:05:59,401 --> 00:06:02,821 We would go through books and I'd say, "Look at this guy, Magritte." 40 00:06:02,905 --> 00:06:06,867 And Vince would say, "Oh, yeah, but check out this guy, Braque." 41 00:06:06,950 --> 00:06:09,953 Who, sir, is the greatest living painter in the world? 42 00:06:10,287 --> 00:06:11,705 Today, Dali. 43 00:06:12,790 --> 00:06:15,084 Salvador Dali totally piqued our imagination. 44 00:06:15,125 --> 00:06:17,628 We'd sit there and go, "Who is this guy?" 45 00:06:18,170 --> 00:06:21,090 He had this moustache and he was wearing giraffe skin suits 46 00:06:21,131 --> 00:06:25,010 and Aladdin shoes, and he did all kinds of insane things. 47 00:06:25,469 --> 00:06:29,431 Dali was outrageously different, and Vince and I liked that. 48 00:06:29,473 --> 00:06:33,477 We liked any artistic statement that had impact. 49 00:06:34,144 --> 00:06:38,065 3,000 screaming teenagers are at New York's Kennedy Airport 50 00:06:38,148 --> 00:06:40,484 to greet, you guessed it, the Beatles. 51 00:06:41,485 --> 00:06:43,153 We were total Beatlemaniacs. 52 00:06:43,195 --> 00:06:45,656 The style, the sound, the look. 53 00:06:45,739 --> 00:06:47,866 They had long hair and parents were confused, 54 00:06:47,950 --> 00:06:49,827 which was a big part of it. 55 00:06:51,328 --> 00:06:54,498 The school decided to have a talent show. 56 00:06:54,581 --> 00:06:59,294 And I thought of this idea of doing a spoof of the Beatles. 57 00:06:59,336 --> 00:07:03,340 We decided we were gonna wear Beatle wigs, so we could be the Earwigs. 58 00:07:03,424 --> 00:07:06,135 Then we realised, "How are we gonna do these songs? 59 00:07:06,176 --> 00:07:07,845 "We don't know how to play." 60 00:07:18,439 --> 00:07:21,692 Dennis says, "I know a guy that plays guitar, Glen Buxton. 61 00:07:21,775 --> 00:07:24,361 "He's a juvenile delinquent, and he's getting thrown out every day, 62 00:07:24,403 --> 00:07:27,531 "and he smokes cigarettes, and he's cool, and he can play about six songs." 63 00:07:27,823 --> 00:07:31,493 We thought, "This guy's pretty tough, I don't know if we should approach him. 64 00:07:31,535 --> 00:07:32,744 "He probably wouldn't go for it." 65 00:07:32,828 --> 00:07:35,038 But we went up and told him what we were gonna do. 66 00:07:35,122 --> 00:07:36,540 And he said he didn't want to wear a wig 67 00:07:36,665 --> 00:07:39,543 but he would play guitar and play the Beatles songs. 68 00:07:43,964 --> 00:07:47,384 The curtain opened and we just tried to pretend to do what the Beatles were doing. 69 00:07:47,426 --> 00:07:49,595 Sing into the mic, wiggle your head. 70 00:07:49,678 --> 00:07:53,432 Everybody was excited because Beatlemania was so new. 71 00:07:53,557 --> 00:07:55,058 We got a big reaction. 72 00:07:55,100 --> 00:07:56,226 All the girls started screaming. 73 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:01,315 That was the gasoline on the fire. 74 00:08:01,398 --> 00:08:05,027 I wanted that experience over and over and over and over again. 75 00:08:11,742 --> 00:08:16,038 So that summer, Dennis learned bass, I learned to sing in tune. 76 00:08:20,542 --> 00:08:23,462 We would go over the same song 50 times a night. 77 00:08:23,545 --> 00:08:26,089 Every day, we got a little bit better. 78 00:08:29,468 --> 00:08:32,304 And then this club opened up called the VIP. 79 00:08:32,387 --> 00:08:35,224 It was a rock 'n' roll teenage dance hall. 80 00:08:35,265 --> 00:08:38,769 Sold Coca-Colas and hot dogs and French fries. 81 00:08:39,019 --> 00:08:44,233 Vince and the guys came in on a Saturday afternoon and showed their stuff. 82 00:08:51,365 --> 00:08:54,868 I liked them a lot, and I said, "I'd like to use you, 83 00:08:54,952 --> 00:08:57,955 "but we've got to do something with the name." 84 00:08:58,455 --> 00:09:01,416 We went, "Yeah, the Earwigs is what we started with." 85 00:09:01,458 --> 00:09:04,545 We were ready to evolve to the next bug. 86 00:09:10,300 --> 00:09:15,347 The Spiders in the spider sanctum. 87 00:09:24,189 --> 00:09:26,608 Boy, when they opened, it was instant. 88 00:09:31,071 --> 00:09:33,991 We became the house band at the VIP Club. 89 00:09:34,491 --> 00:09:37,619 We didn't even do Beatles at that point, we played the Yardbirds, 90 00:09:37,661 --> 00:09:41,331 Rolling Stones, the Who. Make it loud, make it rock. 91 00:09:45,460 --> 00:09:48,213 We got to actually open for the Yardbirds and did all their songs. 92 00:09:48,297 --> 00:09:50,632 I remember the Yardbirds come out for their set 93 00:09:50,674 --> 00:09:52,259 and half the crowd left. 94 00:09:52,759 --> 00:09:56,930 There were even some people complaining that they were doing our songs. 95 00:10:04,938 --> 00:10:08,191 They'll Blow Your Mind from the sensational Spiders from Phoenix. 96 00:10:08,233 --> 00:10:11,778 We had a number two record on KRUX and we're still in high school. 97 00:10:11,862 --> 00:10:13,905 Our senior year, we owned the place. 98 00:10:13,989 --> 00:10:18,327 Every senior girl, every freshman girl, "Wow. You guys are in the Spiders?" 99 00:10:28,670 --> 00:10:32,799 By now, church was way down the menu on priorities. 100 00:10:32,883 --> 00:10:36,595 But there was those times when there was a definite pull back and forth. 101 00:10:36,678 --> 00:10:39,056 "What do you mean you have a show tonight? You have church." 102 00:10:39,139 --> 00:10:41,642 So if I did do the show, I felt really guilty. 103 00:10:42,059 --> 00:10:46,271 Dad was the preacher, so his obligation was to go to church on Sunday. 104 00:10:46,355 --> 00:10:49,858 But he would go to church and people would say, "Look at his hair." 105 00:10:49,900 --> 00:10:53,904 I don't recall too many people complaining right to your face, 106 00:10:54,071 --> 00:10:56,740 but we knew there was a lot of whispering. 107 00:10:56,782 --> 00:10:58,158 But what can you do? 108 00:10:58,408 --> 00:11:02,079 He was gonna stay in his band, he was gonna grow his hair. 109 00:11:08,794 --> 00:11:12,673 Everybody in church thought I was going off the deep end. 110 00:11:12,756 --> 00:11:17,427 It really angered me because, what is the difference if I have long hair or not? 111 00:11:17,552 --> 00:11:22,391 I was growing up and I knew that there was something more out there. 112 00:11:22,724 --> 00:11:25,477 Here comes Salvador Dali, here comes the Beatles. 113 00:11:25,560 --> 00:11:27,145 When all these elements come together... 114 00:11:27,229 --> 00:11:29,356 I wanted to be sucked into that. 115 00:11:29,981 --> 00:11:33,443 I wanted to get to LA, and I wanted to play rock 'n' roll 116 00:11:33,485 --> 00:11:37,114 and meet girls and do everything I could possibly do to be a rock star. 117 00:11:37,197 --> 00:11:39,074 The last thing on my mind was church. 118 00:12:12,149 --> 00:12:15,652 It was 1967 in Los Angeles. 119 00:12:16,153 --> 00:12:18,488 The heart of the love generation. 120 00:12:18,530 --> 00:12:21,408 The whole hippy movement. They were just everywhere. 121 00:12:26,830 --> 00:12:30,250 I could not believe it. We were just in this fantasy world. 122 00:12:30,459 --> 00:12:32,252 We walked down Sunset Strip. 123 00:12:32,335 --> 00:12:35,005 The Byrds are over here. The Doors are over here. 124 00:12:35,046 --> 00:12:36,673 Buffalo Springfield, everything. 125 00:12:36,715 --> 00:12:40,177 And we're like, "Okay we've got to do this." 126 00:12:52,522 --> 00:12:54,900 So you have the hopes and dreams that, when you get there, 127 00:12:54,983 --> 00:12:56,818 everything's just gonna fall into place. 128 00:12:56,860 --> 00:13:00,739 But you get there and you realise that there's 10,000 other bands there 129 00:13:00,822 --> 00:13:04,326 from every state, who were the best band in their state. 130 00:13:04,367 --> 00:13:06,787 And they were all trying to get into the same clubs. 131 00:13:15,504 --> 00:13:20,050 Now, the one thing about LA is that it is designed to destroy your band. 132 00:13:20,091 --> 00:13:24,387 There's so many distractions, so many parties, so many girls. 133 00:13:24,471 --> 00:13:26,223 That's how we met the GTOs. 134 00:13:26,431 --> 00:13:30,560 They were a girl band that lived in the basement of Frank Zappa's log cabin. 135 00:13:30,644 --> 00:13:32,395 They were professional partiers. 136 00:13:32,479 --> 00:13:34,189 Girls from another planet. 137 00:13:49,037 --> 00:13:51,706 I remember the day we all met the boys. 138 00:13:52,082 --> 00:13:54,543 They were cute, but they were pretty darn straight. 139 00:13:54,584 --> 00:14:00,382 They were almost like this oddball, kind of reserved, gentle group of guys 140 00:14:00,423 --> 00:14:04,135 in the midst of a whole lot of very stoned people. 141 00:14:06,054 --> 00:14:08,765 Vince and I were pretty innocent, really. 142 00:14:09,140 --> 00:14:11,226 But hanging outwith the GTOs, 143 00:14:11,268 --> 00:14:15,105 there was experimentation going on, that's for sure. 144 00:14:17,274 --> 00:14:19,568 We got turned onto these little pieces of paper 145 00:14:19,609 --> 00:14:22,904 that would bend your mind extremely. 146 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:28,952 Not me, I was totally straight. 147 00:14:28,994 --> 00:14:31,830 I didn't drink, I didn't smoke, I didn't do anything. 148 00:14:32,581 --> 00:14:34,165 But I went to a party one night, 149 00:14:34,249 --> 00:14:38,295 and I just happened to run into an old friend from church, Judy Jones, 150 00:14:38,336 --> 00:14:40,547 who I had a little crush on, back in the old days. 151 00:14:40,630 --> 00:14:41,965 She handed me a beer. 152 00:14:42,007 --> 00:14:44,384 This was still maybe a chance to hit on her. 153 00:14:44,467 --> 00:14:46,845 I don't want her to think I don't drink beer. 154 00:14:48,847 --> 00:14:51,933 That night, I was just praying 155 00:14:51,975 --> 00:14:54,144 that Vince would walk in the door. 156 00:14:54,185 --> 00:14:57,772 And I'm talking about a door that would stretch like it was made out of rubber. 157 00:14:57,814 --> 00:15:01,192 And I'm talking about a room that wasn't square any more, 158 00:15:01,276 --> 00:15:03,194 and all kinds of stuff like that. 159 00:15:03,445 --> 00:15:08,533 Vince was the only one that would be down to earth and be an anchor. 160 00:15:13,997 --> 00:15:16,207 That night, I had two beers, maybe three. 161 00:15:16,416 --> 00:15:18,209 And I was just blind drunk. 162 00:15:18,293 --> 00:15:20,170 They had to carry me home. 163 00:15:23,715 --> 00:15:26,426 The door opens up, Dennis is in there. 164 00:15:26,509 --> 00:15:28,678 He's standing next to the drapes and he goes, 165 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:30,680 "Who would wear pants this size?" 166 00:15:32,724 --> 00:15:34,517 Who walks in the door? 167 00:15:34,559 --> 00:15:37,020 Vince, who is now plastered. 168 00:15:37,062 --> 00:15:41,858 And I'm like, "Oh, no. This is terrible. This is terrible." 169 00:16:17,227 --> 00:16:20,271 We were smart enough to realise that nobody in LA cared about Phoenix. 170 00:16:20,355 --> 00:16:21,856 You had to start all over here. 171 00:16:21,898 --> 00:16:26,069 I said, "The Spiders is really dated, we've got to come up with another name." 172 00:16:27,445 --> 00:16:29,614 Somebody send, โ€œWhat about 'the Nazi?โ€œ 173 00:16:29,698 --> 00:16:32,534 It almost has a fuzz tone sound to it. Nazz. 174 00:16:32,575 --> 00:16:35,578 "Or what if we went the other way? What if we were 'the Flowers'?" 175 00:16:35,620 --> 00:16:37,622 "Or what if we were 'Springtime'?" 176 00:16:37,706 --> 00:16:41,584 "Or what about something really crazy, like the Husky Baby Sandwich?" 177 00:16:43,628 --> 00:16:46,548 So then, Neal Smith, our drummer, the Platinum God, 178 00:16:46,589 --> 00:16:49,926 decides to drop acid and consult the Ouija board. 179 00:16:54,556 --> 00:16:57,600 I asked the Ouija board, "Did I live in a previous lifetime? 180 00:16:57,684 --> 00:16:58,727 "What was my name?" 181 00:16:59,269 --> 00:17:01,479 And it spelled out a German name. 182 00:17:06,651 --> 00:17:08,403 So I said, "Okay, this isn't working out." 183 00:17:08,778 --> 00:17:10,739 Then Vince sat down to the Ouija board. 184 00:17:10,780 --> 00:17:13,575 And he said, "Did I live in a previous life?" It said yes. 185 00:17:13,825 --> 00:17:15,952 He said, "Where?" It said in England. 186 00:17:16,036 --> 00:17:18,580 "And how was I killed?" it said he was killed as a witch. 187 00:17:18,621 --> 00:17:22,167 And he said, "What was my name?" And it spells out "Alice Cooper". 188 00:17:27,922 --> 00:17:31,551 I said, "Wow, Alice Cooper sounds like a little old lady that lives down the street. 189 00:17:31,718 --> 00:17:33,219 "Makes cookies for everybody. 190 00:17:33,303 --> 00:17:35,513 "But there's a lot of bodies buried in that cellar." 191 00:17:35,597 --> 00:17:38,975 So the name stuck and Alice Cooper was born. 192 00:17:49,360 --> 00:17:52,614 The day that we played as Alice Cooper for the first time, 193 00:17:52,655 --> 00:17:57,744 I looked around, everybody in all three bands on the bill were wearing Levi's. 194 00:17:57,827 --> 00:17:59,245 And I said, "We've got to be different." 195 00:18:00,789 --> 00:18:03,333 They saw that there was a need to be more and more outrageous, 196 00:18:03,374 --> 00:18:04,876 so we helped them out. 197 00:18:05,001 --> 00:18:10,423 We always wore a lot of clothes, a lot of boas, vests, belts, jangly things. 198 00:18:10,507 --> 00:18:12,509 And we would just put them on the boys. 199 00:18:12,550 --> 00:18:13,968 And they loved it. 200 00:18:15,512 --> 00:18:19,849 The GTOs told us this thrift store was selling old Ice Capades outfits. 201 00:18:19,974 --> 00:18:21,643 For a quarter a pound. 202 00:18:21,976 --> 00:18:24,354 So we went in and we bought 50 pounds. 203 00:18:43,748 --> 00:18:46,167 This image was now part of Alice Cooper. 204 00:18:46,209 --> 00:18:48,920 But we weren't musically as good as we needed to be, 205 00:18:49,045 --> 00:18:51,881 so we used a lot of theatrics to get attention. 206 00:18:58,888 --> 00:19:02,100 If I found a watermelon backstage, that was a prop. 207 00:19:02,183 --> 00:19:05,186 If I found a broom, it was something you could swing around your head. 208 00:19:05,228 --> 00:19:06,271 You can ride on it. 209 00:19:06,354 --> 00:19:08,064 A hammer, a light bulb. 210 00:19:08,106 --> 00:19:11,901 No matter what it was, why not incorporate it into the show somehow. 211 00:19:12,569 --> 00:19:15,363 How do you become Alice Cooper? Well, you create it. 212 00:19:29,294 --> 00:19:31,754 Miss Christine and Miss Pamela, they went to Frank Zappa 213 00:19:31,838 --> 00:19:34,007 and they said, "Wait till you see this band." 214 00:19:34,299 --> 00:19:36,259 Frank saw a picture of us and he went, 215 00:19:36,342 --> 00:19:39,053 "Wow, how weird is that? A male GTOs. 216 00:19:39,304 --> 00:19:43,141 "I could use that. Have them here at seven o'clock tomorrow." 217 00:19:51,608 --> 00:19:54,110 The next morning, we showed up, knock on the door, 218 00:19:54,235 --> 00:19:55,778 knock on the door, the door opens. 219 00:19:55,820 --> 00:19:59,032 Miss Christine is standing there and goes into shock. 220 00:20:00,158 --> 00:20:04,829 We barge right in, set up all of our equipment and started playing. 221 00:20:04,913 --> 00:20:08,291 It was so loud I remember the picture on the wall went crooked. 222 00:20:13,838 --> 00:20:16,257 Frank comes down and he goes, "What are you doing?" 223 00:20:17,258 --> 00:20:18,468 And we said, "You said seven." 224 00:20:18,551 --> 00:20:20,386 "I meant seven at night." 225 00:20:22,138 --> 00:20:25,767 He listened and he went, "I don't get it. Where are you guys from?" 226 00:20:25,892 --> 00:20:29,646 I said, "Phoenix." And he goes, "Phoenix, that's a cowboy town. 227 00:20:29,687 --> 00:20:30,980 "Now I really don't get it." 228 00:20:31,064 --> 00:20:33,191 And that's when he said, "Do you have a manager?" 229 00:20:33,274 --> 00:20:34,442 And we said, "No." 230 00:20:34,651 --> 00:20:36,694 We may have even said, "What's a manager?" 231 00:20:36,819 --> 00:20:38,238 I don't know, at that point. 232 00:20:50,500 --> 00:20:53,378 I moved out to California from New York. 233 00:20:53,461 --> 00:20:55,672 My life was completely fucked. 234 00:20:55,713 --> 00:20:58,758 I worked as a probation officer, quit the first day. 235 00:20:58,925 --> 00:21:02,136 Drove up to LA, saw the Hollywood Landmark Motel. 236 00:21:02,178 --> 00:21:06,641 Checked in, got friendly with a whole collection of people living there. 237 00:21:06,975 --> 00:21:09,018 Arthur Lee from Love, 238 00:21:09,185 --> 00:21:10,687 the Chambers Brothers, 239 00:21:11,062 --> 00:21:12,647 Jefferson Airplane. 240 00:21:12,897 --> 00:21:14,691 It was just crazy. 241 00:21:18,486 --> 00:21:22,615 I, in college, had done a little dealing, so I started dealing to all the guys. 242 00:21:22,699 --> 00:21:23,866 And then Lester Chambers said, 243 00:21:23,950 --> 00:21:27,036 "if the police come and ask you how do you pay for your hotel room 244 00:21:27,078 --> 00:21:28,329 "what are you gonna tell them?" 245 00:21:28,371 --> 00:21:30,832 I told him, "I don't know." And he said, "You Jewish?" 246 00:21:30,873 --> 00:21:32,667 And I said, "Yeah." He said, "You should be a manager." 247 00:21:32,709 --> 00:21:34,127 "Great, who do I manage?" 248 00:21:34,210 --> 00:21:37,964 And Lester said, "We have this group living in our basement called Alice Cooper." 249 00:21:41,884 --> 00:21:44,304 Lester brought us over to the Landmark Hotel, 250 00:21:44,387 --> 00:21:46,347 we knock on the door, open the door, 251 00:21:46,389 --> 00:21:48,391 and it's like a wall of fog. 252 00:21:48,474 --> 00:21:50,476 When you got through the fog, 253 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:52,895 there's Janis Joplin, there's Jim Morrison, 254 00:21:52,937 --> 00:21:55,732 and there's Jimi Hendrix, just all getting high. 255 00:22:00,278 --> 00:22:04,073 We're standing there in rock royalty 'cause Shep had the grass. 256 00:22:04,115 --> 00:22:06,200 Clearly, he knew what he was doing. 257 00:22:06,284 --> 00:22:08,911 So we signed with Shep Gordon that night. 258 00:22:12,874 --> 00:22:15,710 The next day, we go to Frank Zappa and he says, "Who's that guy?" 259 00:22:15,752 --> 00:22:16,919 I said, "That's our manager." 260 00:22:17,003 --> 00:22:18,504 And he goes, "You didn't have a manager yesterday." 261 00:22:18,588 --> 00:22:20,423 And I went, "Yeah, we met him last night." 262 00:22:23,301 --> 00:22:26,095 So we all shook hands and we made a deal with Zappa. 263 00:22:26,179 --> 00:22:27,764 That started the journey. 264 00:22:28,306 --> 00:22:29,766 We were on Frank Zappa's label. 265 00:22:29,849 --> 00:22:32,477 That was the biggest thing that ever happened to us. 266 00:22:47,367 --> 00:22:48,826 When we went into the studio, 267 00:22:48,910 --> 00:22:52,789 Frank said, "I don't want to do layer upon layer of sound. 268 00:22:52,830 --> 00:22:55,708 "The charm of your band is that you can do this live." 269 00:22:57,460 --> 00:23:01,798 Frank says, "I want it to sound like I'm driving by a garage 270 00:23:02,006 --> 00:23:03,508 "and the band is practising." 271 00:23:03,633 --> 00:23:07,387 So we just start tuning up, adjusting the amps and stuff. 272 00:23:09,639 --> 00:23:12,308 "Okay, Frank, I think we're ready to go now." 273 00:23:12,392 --> 00:23:14,477 He says, "We got them. We got the takes." 274 00:23:14,644 --> 00:23:16,437 "What, we didn't even play yet." 275 00:23:16,646 --> 00:23:18,815 He says, "We can fix it in the mix." 276 00:23:19,482 --> 00:23:23,403 Frank looked at his watch, "Okay, I'm gonna be back at five. 277 00:23:23,486 --> 00:23:26,155 "Anything more that you guys record, that's the album." 278 00:23:28,366 --> 00:23:31,536 Then he came back at 5:15, and picked up the tape, 279 00:23:31,619 --> 00:23:33,830 and that was Pretties For You. 280 00:23:38,751 --> 00:23:42,004 Lester Bangs reviewed Pretties For You and said, 281 00:23:42,505 --> 00:23:45,174 "This album is a tragic waste of plastic." 282 00:23:59,021 --> 00:24:01,566 Even though we had the stamp of approval of Zappa, 283 00:24:01,649 --> 00:24:03,693 we were kind of the joke of the town. 284 00:24:03,734 --> 00:24:05,820 People were just like, "Alice Cooper? 285 00:24:05,862 --> 00:24:08,614 "Look at these guys, I'm gonna throw a beer at them." 286 00:24:14,704 --> 00:24:18,833 One time, we played a show for 6,000 hippies that were freaked out on acid. 287 00:24:21,252 --> 00:24:23,921 And when we came out, it was like a nightmare. 288 00:24:27,216 --> 00:24:30,261 The place just emptied, people were running for the doors. 289 00:24:30,344 --> 00:24:32,263 It was like somebody yelled, "Fire!" 290 00:24:37,894 --> 00:24:42,064 Bill Graham, a promoter, he said, "You tell these fucking assholes 291 00:24:42,148 --> 00:24:45,485 "either they play fucking music or they fucking act. 292 00:24:45,735 --> 00:24:48,237 "They're not doing both on my fucking stage. 293 00:24:48,362 --> 00:24:50,865 "Get these motherfuckers out of here." 294 00:24:51,115 --> 00:24:54,660 Alice Cooper was really hated in Los Angeles. 295 00:25:08,758 --> 00:25:12,762 We basically left Los Angeles with our tails between our legs. 296 00:25:18,518 --> 00:25:21,437 It was a tough time. We were completely desolate. 297 00:25:22,104 --> 00:25:24,565 But we just put our heads down and kept going. 298 00:25:24,607 --> 00:25:26,943 And our mantra was we would move into the first city 299 00:25:27,026 --> 00:25:28,319 where we got a standing ovation. 300 00:25:32,907 --> 00:25:36,744 There was a long period of time that we were stray dogs without a home, 301 00:25:36,827 --> 00:25:39,121 just wandering around, playing wherever we could play. 302 00:25:39,705 --> 00:25:42,875 We were living out of suitcases in cheap hotels. 303 00:25:42,959 --> 00:25:45,586 Bouncing cheques, blackballed by clubs. 304 00:25:45,628 --> 00:25:47,630 "Look out for these guys." 305 00:25:47,755 --> 00:25:51,342 But Vince and I had that long distance mentality. 306 00:25:51,467 --> 00:25:53,135 There's no rear-view mirror. 307 00:25:53,177 --> 00:25:55,555 If something fails, it's behind us. 308 00:26:02,144 --> 00:26:07,316 At one point, Shep says, "I got us a gig at a big pop festival worth $2,000. 309 00:26:07,358 --> 00:26:09,402 "2,000 could keep us going for quite a while." 310 00:26:09,735 --> 00:26:13,030 So we played the Saugatuck Pop Festival in Detroit. 311 00:26:26,168 --> 00:26:28,879 Detroit was the antithesis of LA. 312 00:26:29,171 --> 00:26:31,007 Every band was up there for blood. 313 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:41,684 The MC5 were like a full-out show band. 314 00:26:41,767 --> 00:26:44,854 They were like Ike & Tina Turner but with a bad attitude. 315 00:26:44,979 --> 00:26:47,523 And I went, "Wow. Where are we?" 316 00:26:50,693 --> 00:26:53,029 Then Iggy comes on and then, "Bam! impact." 317 00:27:00,369 --> 00:27:03,164 Iggy literally drained the audience of their energy. 318 00:27:03,205 --> 00:27:04,832 I don't want to go on after that guy. 319 00:27:05,041 --> 00:27:06,917 I'm used to going on after a blues band. 320 00:27:11,672 --> 00:27:15,343 We couldn't follow the Stooges by trying to out-power them. 321 00:27:15,384 --> 00:27:18,220 We would have to be much more dramatic. 322 00:27:23,184 --> 00:27:27,563 The band came out and I just thought they were fucking great. 323 00:27:27,730 --> 00:27:29,940 There seemed to be a contest in the band 324 00:27:30,024 --> 00:27:32,526 for who could have the longest, most feminine hair. 325 00:27:32,943 --> 00:27:34,528 I think the drummer won. 326 00:27:35,488 --> 00:27:38,699 It was great theatrics, everything was odd or weird. 327 00:27:38,908 --> 00:27:41,952 And nobody was doing anything quite like that at the time. 328 00:27:47,792 --> 00:27:51,879 What they were doing was Salvador Dali with electric guitar. 329 00:27:51,921 --> 00:27:54,382 And Detroit was open to that. 330 00:27:54,423 --> 00:28:00,262 All they care about is, "Do you produce? Do you sweat? Do you entertain the people?" 331 00:28:00,554 --> 00:28:02,807 And if you do that, they'll love you. 332 00:28:13,025 --> 00:28:16,904 That night, we killed them. Finally, an audience got it. 333 00:28:16,946 --> 00:28:21,117 We got our standing ovation and it felt like coming home. 334 00:28:40,845 --> 00:28:41,846 Shep knew people. 335 00:28:41,929 --> 00:28:46,475 They wanted to do a big concert called the Toronto Rock Revival. 336 00:28:46,559 --> 00:28:49,186 Shep spent a month helping them put that thing together. 337 00:28:49,270 --> 00:28:50,771 And they get John Lennon. 338 00:28:50,813 --> 00:28:52,314 Shep says, "You don't have to pay me. 339 00:28:52,481 --> 00:28:56,652 "The payment's gonna be Alice Cooper goes on right before John Lennon." 340 00:28:57,862 --> 00:29:01,449 The stadium was absolutely full, packed. 341 00:29:01,490 --> 00:29:05,703 The crowd is getting very antsy. There was tons of excitement. 342 00:29:06,036 --> 00:29:10,166 There was a Beatle gonna be going on next to us and we're a no-name. 343 00:29:10,332 --> 00:29:12,793 I knew that was a moment where we had to do something. 344 00:29:12,835 --> 00:29:14,879 You don't get to play with John Lennon too often. 345 00:29:14,962 --> 00:29:16,505 Alice Cooper! 346 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:41,489 We get on stage and the audience is a little bewildered. 347 00:29:42,782 --> 00:29:45,701 But the energy behind the band, they dug. 348 00:29:51,707 --> 00:29:56,378 At the end of the show, the idea was to open up three feather pillows, 349 00:29:56,545 --> 00:29:59,256 CO2 cartridge, so it looked like snow. 350 00:30:06,055 --> 00:30:08,724 For some reason, there was a chicken backstage. 351 00:30:08,766 --> 00:30:12,102 And when the feather pillows went out, I threw the chicken up. 352 00:30:12,186 --> 00:30:14,522 The next thing, I looked down and there's a chicken. 353 00:30:14,563 --> 00:30:18,901 I went, "Okay. It had feathers, it had wings, it should fly." 354 00:30:19,527 --> 00:30:21,237 It's a bird, right? A chicken's a bird. 355 00:30:21,278 --> 00:30:24,907 So I picked up the chicken and I chucked it in the audience. 356 00:30:25,199 --> 00:30:27,785 It came down and people grabbed the chicken. 357 00:30:28,661 --> 00:30:31,956 Let's just say it wasn't healthy for the chicken. 358 00:30:32,456 --> 00:30:36,335 The audience tore it to pieces and threw it back up on stage. 359 00:30:36,418 --> 00:30:38,963 It was just blood, head, feathers. 360 00:30:39,046 --> 00:30:41,590 The crowd was totally shocked. 361 00:30:41,924 --> 00:30:44,844 This whole stadium was dead quiet. 362 00:30:49,265 --> 00:30:53,769 We killed a chicken in front of 70,000 hippies. 363 00:30:56,021 --> 00:30:59,275 All of a sudden, we were the most notorious band on the planet. 364 00:30:59,358 --> 00:31:01,777 And everybody wanted to know about Alice Cooper. 365 00:31:02,444 --> 00:31:05,322 At that point, the whole group was Alice Cooper. 366 00:31:05,406 --> 00:31:09,618 But the PR lady said she didn't know how to make five people called Alice Cooper stars. 367 00:31:09,660 --> 00:31:12,788 But if we could pick one person, that she knew how to do. 368 00:31:14,248 --> 00:31:18,878 This is Alice Cooper and anybody can have what they want out of Alice Cooper. 369 00:31:19,753 --> 00:31:22,214 I'm not trying to press or push anything. 370 00:31:22,298 --> 00:31:26,844 The whole theme of the thing is to attack, just to have fun. 371 00:31:26,927 --> 00:31:29,471 I get off just scaring people. 372 00:31:29,722 --> 00:31:32,349 It's almost like a sexual thing. 373 00:31:32,808 --> 00:31:37,646 To go on stage and completely expose myself as far as my inner personality, 374 00:31:37,730 --> 00:31:40,983 my whole Mr Hyde type of personality. 375 00:32:01,921 --> 00:32:06,425 Even though we were notorious, we still didn't have anything on the radio. 376 00:32:06,592 --> 00:32:10,638 People were dying to love this band, but what was missing? 377 00:32:11,305 --> 00:32:12,890 A freakin' hit song. 378 00:32:12,973 --> 00:32:16,352 So we looked at bands that had a nice string of hits. 379 00:32:16,894 --> 00:32:19,229 And the Guess Who kept popping up. 380 00:32:19,313 --> 00:32:20,731 So we did our research and found out 381 00:32:20,814 --> 00:32:25,152 that a company out of Toronto called Nimbus 9 made their hit records. 382 00:32:26,028 --> 00:32:28,614 I went to Toronto and waited and waited in the office. 383 00:32:28,697 --> 00:32:31,450 And I think the second day, this young guy came out. 384 00:32:36,538 --> 00:32:40,209 My boss said, "Whatever you do, get rid of Alice Cooper." 385 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:46,590 He took one look at the picture of the band, these five creatures of indeterminate sex, 386 00:32:46,757 --> 00:32:51,553 and he didn't want to be in the same county with them, never mind in the same studio. 387 00:32:51,845 --> 00:32:54,974 But Shep is irascible and wouldn't take no for an answer. 388 00:32:55,057 --> 00:32:58,102 So finally, I agreed to go to New York and see them play. 389 00:33:10,155 --> 00:33:15,411 New York heard about this half-girl, half-guy, half-alien band that killed animals. 390 00:33:15,494 --> 00:33:20,499 So everybody that was anybody in the underground hip world was there. 391 00:33:20,916 --> 00:33:26,255 And our attitude was, "Let's just kill 'em with Detroit rock 'n' roll." 392 00:33:30,300 --> 00:33:35,472 The show opened up with Alice at the lip of the stage with bloodshot red eyes 393 00:33:35,556 --> 00:33:40,686 and blood-red gums and gleaming teeth, scowling right in front of my face 394 00:33:40,769 --> 00:33:43,647 as this band of monsters hit the stage. 395 00:33:56,869 --> 00:33:59,538 It was the most amazing thing I'd ever seen. 396 00:33:59,955 --> 00:34:03,333 There were no T-shirts, there were no jeans. It was sets and props and lights. 397 00:34:03,500 --> 00:34:06,420 I said, "This isn't rock 'n' roll. It's the beginning of a cultural movement!" 398 00:34:10,466 --> 00:34:13,594 After the show, I came bounding up the stairs into the dressing room, 399 00:34:13,677 --> 00:34:16,096 had my hand in the air, and I said, "We'll do it! 400 00:34:16,138 --> 00:34:19,224 "We'll produce you and you will make hit records!" 401 00:34:19,308 --> 00:34:21,185 We're like, "Yeah, right, kid." 402 00:34:21,310 --> 00:34:25,647 Glenn's like, "I'd buy him a drink, but he's not old enough." 403 00:34:55,928 --> 00:34:57,304 When we went into the studio, 404 00:34:57,346 --> 00:35:00,390 Bob and I talked about Alice Cooper in the third person. 405 00:35:00,474 --> 00:35:05,896 So I could play Alice and be as insane as I wanted to be behind this mask. 406 00:35:08,649 --> 00:35:12,569 I saw Alice Cooper as all kinds of different crazy characters. 407 00:35:12,694 --> 00:35:15,364 So each song got dealt with theatrically. 408 00:35:15,489 --> 00:35:17,616 Dwight Fry was cut with a straightjacket on. 409 00:35:19,368 --> 00:35:21,203 So when he was singing, "I've to get out of here, 410 00:35:21,245 --> 00:35:22,621 "I've to get out of here, 411 00:35:24,081 --> 00:35:26,458 "'l've got to get out of here." He really meant it. 412 00:35:38,595 --> 00:35:42,850 This character that we created was coming to life right in front of us. 413 00:35:44,935 --> 00:35:48,147 Doing it live was one thing, we could project it live. 414 00:35:48,230 --> 00:35:53,610 But with Bob Ezrin, we were able to capture that in the grooves on record. 415 00:35:53,777 --> 00:35:57,781 Which meant that now we're gonna do something dramatic musically. 416 00:36:33,483 --> 00:36:35,944 We had this song that we used to warm up with. 417 00:36:36,028 --> 00:36:37,988 It went on for 10 minutes. 418 00:36:38,071 --> 00:36:41,033 And Bob kept saying, "What are you singing there, 'I'm edgy'?" 419 00:36:41,116 --> 00:36:42,284 "No, 'I'm 18'." 420 00:36:49,208 --> 00:36:53,629 Bob saw that as the song that would put us on the map. 421 00:36:53,670 --> 00:36:57,424 But he would say, "That's not a song, that's a whole album." 422 00:36:57,883 --> 00:37:00,302 Bob said, "Just make it 'Bam! Bam! Bam!' 423 00:37:00,344 --> 00:37:02,763 "So it keeps coming at you all the way through the song." 424 00:37:02,804 --> 00:37:04,181 Which is what a good single does. 425 00:37:14,316 --> 00:37:17,486 All right, this is the new 45 from Alice Cooper, Eighteen. 426 00:37:17,569 --> 00:37:19,696 On our way to rehearsal, the radio was always on 427 00:37:19,780 --> 00:37:21,657 and all of a sudden, we heard Eighteen. 428 00:37:23,075 --> 00:37:24,368 It stunned us. 429 00:37:26,578 --> 00:37:29,748 We pulled the car over and I went, "That's our record!" 430 00:37:29,957 --> 00:37:34,378 So we just started 24-hour-a-day calling the hotlines of every radio station. 431 00:37:34,461 --> 00:37:38,006 I had my mother doing it, my brother. Everybody had every relative doing it. 432 00:37:38,131 --> 00:37:40,592 Please may I hear I'm Eighteen by Alice Cooper? 433 00:37:40,801 --> 00:37:43,595 Eventually, they moved it in the heavy rotation. 434 00:37:43,679 --> 00:37:45,639 So, it would be I'm Eighteen, 435 00:37:45,681 --> 00:37:48,725 then the Beatles, the Stones, and Hendrix, and then I'm Eighteen. 436 00:37:48,809 --> 00:37:50,394 We just went, "What? 437 00:37:50,477 --> 00:37:52,896 "You can't say Alice Cooper and Rolling Stones in the same sentence. 438 00:37:52,980 --> 00:37:54,356 "That's sacrilege." 439 00:37:54,439 --> 00:37:58,193 It's like, "What if they find out that we're Alice Cooper?" 440 00:38:20,382 --> 00:38:21,633 We were an overnight sensation. 441 00:38:21,842 --> 00:38:26,263 All of a sudden, we were in limousines. All of a sudden, we were in airplanes. 442 00:38:26,346 --> 00:38:28,390 To us, it was so much fun. 443 00:38:28,557 --> 00:38:32,060 We just drank beer all day and just said, "What's next?" 444 00:38:32,436 --> 00:38:35,355 With a hit record, we didn't have to bite the head off of a chicken. 445 00:38:35,605 --> 00:38:39,234 We play I'm Eighteen and 5,000 people would go crazy. 446 00:38:58,170 --> 00:39:02,341 His name is Alice Cooper, the latest superstar to hit the rock scene. 447 00:39:02,424 --> 00:39:04,968 His father was a preacher, so was his grandfather. 448 00:39:05,052 --> 00:39:06,511 They hoped he would be, too. 449 00:39:06,595 --> 00:39:08,722 Instead, he became a rock musician. 450 00:39:23,445 --> 00:39:25,322 Our audience was a new audience. 451 00:39:25,405 --> 00:39:28,492 It was not the Crosby, Stills and Nash audience. 452 00:39:29,159 --> 00:39:33,288 Kids on the lunatic fringe of society, the ones that were left out, 453 00:39:33,830 --> 00:39:37,292 they finally had a rock star that represented them. 454 00:39:48,053 --> 00:39:50,806 I was wondering when you started to adopt the theatrics. 455 00:39:50,847 --> 00:39:52,641 Some of the outrageous things that you do on stage 456 00:39:52,682 --> 00:39:54,893 to provoke people and to shake them up a little bit. 457 00:39:54,976 --> 00:39:58,438 Well, there's such an enormous lack of entertainment in rock music. 458 00:39:59,398 --> 00:40:01,358 It got to the point where, if you go to a concert, 459 00:40:01,441 --> 00:40:04,569 all you're gonna see is a guitar solo, a drum solo. 460 00:40:04,653 --> 00:40:06,154 And how far can that go? 461 00:40:06,238 --> 00:40:08,490 You wanna see something that you're gonna go home and talk about 462 00:40:08,532 --> 00:40:10,659 and scare your parents with. 463 00:40:10,742 --> 00:40:13,245 So if some 14-year-old boy goes home wearing eye make-up, saying, 464 00:40:13,328 --> 00:40:15,664 "Alice Copper wears it, why can't I wear it?" 465 00:40:15,705 --> 00:40:17,290 Of course, his parents are going to say... 466 00:40:33,723 --> 00:40:37,978 We knew chopping up the baby dolls would really drive parents crazy. 467 00:40:38,019 --> 00:40:41,356 Then we thought, "Well, is Alice wearing a snake on stage, 468 00:40:41,398 --> 00:40:43,358 "something that parents would hate?" 469 00:40:43,442 --> 00:40:45,277 "They'd just cringe." 470 00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:47,195 "That's perfect. Then let's use a snake." 471 00:41:09,634 --> 00:41:14,389 Alice with this snake and the make-up! This is going to blow it right off the map. 472 00:41:14,473 --> 00:41:15,849 Especially, when they hang me. 473 00:41:41,750 --> 00:41:45,337 The sadomasochistic exploits of West Coast mass murderers 474 00:41:45,879 --> 00:41:48,507 are now acted out on stages across the country. 475 00:41:48,590 --> 00:41:52,010 For it appears, America's children are turning on to a new message. 476 00:41:52,135 --> 00:41:56,806 The message of sex, death and violence, as portrayed on stage by Alice Cooper. 477 00:42:19,829 --> 00:42:23,792 How are we gonna outdo this? That's all I ever thought about. 478 00:42:23,875 --> 00:42:26,670 We picked up ideas like sponges. 479 00:42:26,962 --> 00:42:29,798 You never know where inspiration's gonna come from. 480 00:42:29,839 --> 00:42:32,717 On the road, the television was our constant friend. 481 00:42:33,385 --> 00:42:34,803 Two cars! 482 00:42:36,096 --> 00:42:39,182 Let others wallow with Watergate. We're gonna do our job. 483 00:42:39,474 --> 00:42:40,642 Skinny! 484 00:42:41,142 --> 00:42:42,644 Hey, Skinny! 485 00:42:42,852 --> 00:42:44,771 Hey, hold your horses, Mugs, I'm comin'. 486 00:42:44,813 --> 00:42:45,981 Relax, Skinny. 487 00:42:46,523 --> 00:42:47,607 School's out! 488 00:42:49,150 --> 00:42:51,486 Did he just say, "School's out"? 489 00:43:30,066 --> 00:43:32,110 We thought Eighteen was our anthem. 490 00:43:32,527 --> 00:43:35,697 We didn't know that School's Out would be even bigger than that. 491 00:43:35,739 --> 00:43:39,492 In the music business, if you have a hit record, you are in. 492 00:43:40,201 --> 00:43:44,331 Giving Alice Cooper a hit was like the lunatics running the asylum. 493 00:43:44,706 --> 00:43:48,543 So I said let's put panties on the album. The mothers would go crazy. 494 00:43:48,627 --> 00:43:50,545 This is the last straw. 495 00:43:50,879 --> 00:43:52,505 No more Alice Cooper! 496 00:43:52,589 --> 00:43:56,217 So then, Shep goes, "Alice Cooper is gonna take over the Hollywood Bowl, 497 00:43:56,259 --> 00:43:59,929 "where all the classy acts play, and turn it into Hellzapoppin'." 498 00:44:19,991 --> 00:44:22,494 Alice Cooper programmes! Free record in the back! 499 00:44:27,916 --> 00:44:31,378 I've seen him three years ago, a real small concert in Michigan. 500 00:44:31,419 --> 00:44:33,380 And I followed him out here. 501 00:44:34,589 --> 00:44:37,717 He just does freaky things on stage that are just really out of sight to watch. 502 00:44:37,759 --> 00:44:38,802 His music, man. 503 00:44:38,885 --> 00:44:42,263 I like the way he presents himself and performs up on the stage, man. 504 00:44:42,305 --> 00:44:46,267 It gets in me. I don't know. I just freak out. 505 00:44:46,309 --> 00:44:49,145 Well, see, I'm this perfectly normal guy. 506 00:44:50,271 --> 00:44:52,774 I'm not a freak and I like Alice Cooper. 507 00:45:00,281 --> 00:45:03,702 It's the Alice Cooper show and how many here feel it, 508 00:45:03,785 --> 00:45:06,121 they want to to get it on? 509 00:45:06,996 --> 00:45:09,249 Wolf man Jack, one of my all-time idols, 510 00:45:09,290 --> 00:45:13,461 he comes out on stage with a camel, an elephant and harem girls, 511 00:45:13,503 --> 00:45:14,838 and introduced the band. 512 00:45:14,921 --> 00:45:18,675 "All right, everybody! Wolf man Jack, Alice Cooper, yeah!" 513 00:45:18,758 --> 00:45:20,969 I'm going, "That's the Wolf man!" 514 00:45:21,010 --> 00:45:25,640 The legendary Alice Cooper! 515 00:45:45,285 --> 00:45:47,245 You're on stage, you're playing, 516 00:45:47,328 --> 00:45:50,039 you've had the camel, you've had Wolf man Jack, 517 00:45:50,165 --> 00:45:52,250 so what are you going to do next? 518 00:45:52,333 --> 00:45:56,838 Shep was like, "We're gonna pay these helicopter guys to fly over the crowd." 519 00:45:56,880 --> 00:46:00,508 And then here comes all of these panties, different colours, 520 00:46:00,550 --> 00:46:02,761 falling down on the audience. 521 00:46:03,261 --> 00:46:05,054 And I'm ready to just burst 522 00:46:05,138 --> 00:46:08,975 because I am so excited about how cool this idea is. 523 00:46:18,401 --> 00:46:20,862 It was a show I'll never forget. 524 00:46:20,904 --> 00:46:25,366 I remember the helicopter coming over, and me fighting people in the crowd. 525 00:46:25,450 --> 00:46:28,161 I so desperately wanted a pair of these panties. 526 00:46:31,414 --> 00:46:33,875 For me, it was the perfect rock 'n' roll show of that time. 527 00:46:33,958 --> 00:46:36,920 Alice had this incredible ability to be a ring leader. 528 00:46:37,212 --> 00:46:39,881 And he wrapped that audience around his little finger for two hours. 529 00:46:40,340 --> 00:46:41,341 Stop! 530 00:46:43,259 --> 00:46:44,761 You know what? 531 00:46:46,346 --> 00:46:49,557 A lot of people say me and my boys are funny boys. 532 00:46:50,058 --> 00:46:52,560 Isn't that just a little bit silly? 533 00:46:53,478 --> 00:46:55,897 Goodbye, everybody in Los Angeles. 534 00:46:56,064 --> 00:46:57,649 School's out! Now! 535 00:46:57,732 --> 00:47:02,445 I was inspired, I was moved by what Alice put together as a showman. 536 00:47:02,529 --> 00:47:04,322 You couldn't help but just love this guy. 537 00:47:10,829 --> 00:47:12,330 Alice Cooper! 538 00:47:25,468 --> 00:47:27,595 Alice. I love him. 539 00:47:27,804 --> 00:47:30,056 - Do you think he's sexy? - Yeah. 540 00:47:31,307 --> 00:47:33,268 - Do you wanna have sex or fall in love? - Yeah. 541 00:47:33,601 --> 00:47:34,978 I feel so excited and everything. 542 00:47:35,061 --> 00:47:38,731 Just seeing him in person on stage is just great. it really is. 543 00:47:38,773 --> 00:47:40,608 - He's better than Mick Jagger? - Yeah. 544 00:47:40,692 --> 00:47:42,944 - What would you do if you met him? - Everything. 545 00:47:46,197 --> 00:47:47,991 - Parents hate him, though. - Yeah. 546 00:48:16,477 --> 00:48:20,982 All of a sudden, Alice became more in the fish bowl than the rest of us. 547 00:48:21,065 --> 00:48:25,403 I'd walk in Alice's room and it would be Alice staring at a television 548 00:48:25,486 --> 00:48:30,325 and all of these people staring at Alice, watching him watch television. 549 00:48:30,408 --> 00:48:34,120 If Alice said, "Can somebody get me a beer", everybody would scramble. 550 00:48:34,203 --> 00:48:36,414 It wasn't a world of reality. 551 00:48:37,081 --> 00:48:41,461 This character had to be constantly fucked up, really out there. 552 00:48:41,502 --> 00:48:45,340 And it wasn't necessarily his nature. But the alcohol really drove him. 553 00:48:45,632 --> 00:48:47,508 I got lost in the character. 554 00:48:47,550 --> 00:48:50,678 Why would I wanna go back to being Vince when Alice was so successful? 555 00:48:50,762 --> 00:48:55,516 "Hey, everybody loves Alice. I'll be Alice. Vince is fine, but who needs him?" 556 00:48:56,059 --> 00:48:58,394 I was on fire with this Alice character. 557 00:49:16,663 --> 00:49:20,917 The most musical act to be playing on pop radio. Alice was so much more. 558 00:49:21,668 --> 00:49:23,795 We're able to manufacture moments 559 00:49:23,878 --> 00:49:27,006 then spread them out to every corner of everything. 560 00:49:37,266 --> 00:49:41,437 We got a call from Salvador Dali's people that he wanted to meet us. 561 00:49:42,063 --> 00:49:45,358 I said, "This is gonna be great." He's the guy. It's like meeting the Beatles. 562 00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:47,568 We go to the St Moritz hotel, 563 00:49:47,610 --> 00:49:51,114 Salvador Dali walks in and he goes, "The Dali is here". 564 00:49:51,572 --> 00:49:55,702 Then he went into this speech about "The Dali, the greatest artist. 565 00:49:55,743 --> 00:49:58,079 "The Cooper, the greatest artist." 566 00:49:58,121 --> 00:50:00,665 He wants to do this moving hologram. 567 00:50:00,873 --> 00:50:05,211 He said, "I want you to sit in the middle and wear four million dollars in diamonds." 568 00:50:05,253 --> 00:50:09,465 And he has this brain with him. And he goes, "This is the Alice brain." 569 00:50:09,549 --> 00:50:13,428 It's got ants crawling all over it, and the ants spelled out Alice and Dali, 570 00:50:13,761 --> 00:50:16,014 and a chocolate รฉclair running down the back. 571 00:50:16,389 --> 00:50:19,767 Alice being with Dali was as significant as a record. 572 00:50:20,268 --> 00:50:22,061 'Cause it defined who he was. 573 00:50:22,603 --> 00:50:24,897 Alice was becoming a real icon. 574 00:50:46,836 --> 00:50:49,338 I wasn't even told that it was going on. 575 00:50:49,422 --> 00:50:54,552 The band had been sent one place and Alice went to the unveiling. 576 00:50:54,969 --> 00:51:00,600 Here's something that's symbolic of our achievement of our vision, 577 00:51:01,142 --> 00:51:03,102 and then I was excluded. 578 00:51:03,644 --> 00:51:06,981 That really hurt me because, even though I was happy for Alice, 579 00:51:07,023 --> 00:51:11,778 I just felt like I was left out of something that him and I should be sharing. 580 00:52:00,034 --> 00:52:03,204 Things started changing with success. 581 00:52:03,746 --> 00:52:06,374 The band became treated like outsiders 582 00:52:06,415 --> 00:52:10,503 and barely a step above any fan that would try to get into Alice's room. 583 00:52:10,878 --> 00:52:12,296 We always had two limos. 584 00:52:12,380 --> 00:52:13,881 And one time, I got in one of them 585 00:52:13,923 --> 00:52:18,386 and somebody came out to me and said, "You can't sit in there. That's Alice's car." 586 00:52:18,511 --> 00:52:22,348 All the shit that this band had ever gone through together as one unit. 587 00:52:22,390 --> 00:52:25,059 I had a switchblade, and I was ready to stab this motherfucker. 588 00:52:31,315 --> 00:52:35,444 Alice needed his own car because Alice would have to go to radio stations, 589 00:52:35,528 --> 00:52:39,615 Alice would have to go to red carpets, Alice would have to attend all these parties. 590 00:52:40,116 --> 00:52:43,578 Everybody else would go into town, take a nap, go to the pool, 591 00:52:43,744 --> 00:52:45,413 but Alice never had a minute. 592 00:52:46,038 --> 00:52:49,542 Even though touring was hard, it didn't ever feel like work. 593 00:52:49,625 --> 00:52:53,004 But now, six or seven years of it was catching up with me. 594 00:52:53,087 --> 00:52:55,548 "Okay, wait. I got to take a breath." 595 00:52:55,673 --> 00:52:57,049 Look at me. 596 00:52:57,800 --> 00:52:59,802 Would you buy a car from this man? 597 00:53:01,304 --> 00:53:04,599 I needed a break from the band, I needed a break from touring, 598 00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:06,475 I needed a break from Alice. 599 00:53:07,435 --> 00:53:08,603 But you can't stop. 600 00:53:08,686 --> 00:53:11,606 You got to put another album out that was gonna be a number one. 601 00:53:21,282 --> 00:53:25,286 The band had decided we wanted to get back to being a band, 602 00:53:25,328 --> 00:53:27,747 not just the vehicle for Alice. 603 00:53:27,788 --> 00:53:31,167 We're going to get back to our roots and we're gonna work up this song 604 00:53:31,250 --> 00:53:33,794 that we had had for a million years called Woman Machine. 605 00:53:39,133 --> 00:53:42,261 We're feeling really good about this, and then Bob showed up. 606 00:53:42,303 --> 00:53:44,931 "Bob, we got this new song. Listen to this." 607 00:53:44,972 --> 00:53:48,726 We didn't even get past the intro when Bob stopped us and said, 608 00:53:48,809 --> 00:53:51,520 "Wait, I think you should play something different on that." 609 00:53:51,604 --> 00:53:54,690 "What are you talking about? We didn't even play the song yet." 610 00:53:55,983 --> 00:53:58,069 Ladies and gentlemen, it's a privilege and pleasure 611 00:53:58,152 --> 00:54:01,155 to introduce the world's greatest singer, Alice Cooper. 612 00:54:04,617 --> 00:54:07,995 The band really felt like Alice and I had too much control. 613 00:54:08,079 --> 00:54:10,706 They had a vision and they wanted to see that vision through. 614 00:54:10,790 --> 00:54:12,625 For the first time ever in our relationship, 615 00:54:12,667 --> 00:54:14,669 they just go, "No, that's not the way we hear that. 616 00:54:14,752 --> 00:54:16,754 "We would rather do it this way." 617 00:54:22,885 --> 00:54:24,178 I had a little meeting with Alice 618 00:54:24,220 --> 00:54:27,598 and I just said, "it's obvious that they don't really wanna work with me any more. 619 00:54:27,682 --> 00:54:31,143 "And if you ever decide to go out on your own, let me know. 620 00:54:31,477 --> 00:54:33,187 "'Cause I love you and I love working with you." 621 00:54:33,813 --> 00:54:35,356 I always believed in the sure thing. 622 00:54:35,439 --> 00:54:38,734 And I know that Bob was the only one that understood Alice Cooper. 623 00:54:38,818 --> 00:54:39,860 But I'm still in the band, 624 00:54:39,944 --> 00:54:43,531 I'm going, "Okay well, if Bob's not in, we're still gonna make a record, right?" 625 00:54:43,572 --> 00:54:47,702 So we flew to Los Angeles and did the next album without Bob Ezrin. 626 00:55:05,511 --> 00:55:08,556 I went and lived in Malibu while we were recording. 627 00:55:08,681 --> 00:55:12,893 It probably was one of the first times that I ever avoided the other guys. 628 00:55:14,228 --> 00:55:17,815 We were fracturing and this album just didn't have any cohesion. 629 00:55:18,190 --> 00:55:20,026 We didn't have Bob to hold it together. 630 00:55:21,402 --> 00:55:25,114 Everybody was frustrated and the band wanted to do solo albums. 631 00:55:25,573 --> 00:55:28,326 Other bands have done it, but we were sort of warned by management 632 00:55:28,409 --> 00:55:31,162 that it's not a good idea to take a year off and do a solo album. 633 00:55:31,245 --> 00:55:33,164 I don't know if it's a warning or a threat. 634 00:55:39,253 --> 00:55:42,298 My attitude was, if you do solo records then Alice 635 00:55:42,381 --> 00:55:43,758 does his and you're fucked. 636 00:55:44,050 --> 00:55:46,969 'Cause he's the only one people care about. So please don't do it. 637 00:55:47,178 --> 00:55:49,263 But if you do it, then we better do what we do. 638 00:55:56,645 --> 00:55:58,689 Shep was smart enough to understand that, 639 00:55:58,773 --> 00:56:01,817 if there is gonna be a solo career, I should own the name. 640 00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:04,278 I walk down the street, nobody says, "Hey, Vince." 641 00:56:04,612 --> 00:56:05,863 Everybody goes, "Hey, Alice." 642 00:56:06,447 --> 00:56:08,574 I was the character of Alice Cooper. 643 00:56:09,575 --> 00:56:13,996 Could any of the rest of us have carried off that character? 644 00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:15,081 I don't think so. 645 00:56:15,122 --> 00:56:18,376 So when Alice became the solo artist, then I realised, 646 00:56:18,459 --> 00:56:22,254 "Okay, Alice Cooper the band is definitely over." 647 00:56:22,338 --> 00:56:27,343 It was very, very tough. The separation from the art. 648 00:56:27,510 --> 00:56:30,638 But mostly, the separation of friendship. 649 00:56:34,141 --> 00:56:38,145 Dennis was the first one that encouraged me to become something other than myself. 650 00:56:38,646 --> 00:56:41,565 For the Vince part of me, it was hard to leave Dennis behind. 651 00:56:41,982 --> 00:56:43,359 But now I was Alice. 652 00:56:44,318 --> 00:56:46,153 And Alice had a life of his own. 653 00:57:20,855 --> 00:57:23,023 Of course, coming through and the photographers are snapping this, 654 00:57:23,065 --> 00:57:25,484 - Alice Cooper... - I just left my drink over there. 655 00:57:25,526 --> 00:57:27,903 And I don't have anything in my liver. 656 00:57:28,487 --> 00:57:29,738 - Tell me, are you working on an album? - Yes. 657 00:57:29,822 --> 00:57:31,615 Name of the album is Welcome To My Nightmare. 658 00:57:31,699 --> 00:57:32,700 That sounds interesting. 659 00:57:32,783 --> 00:57:34,410 I'm the murderer and I will be murdered. 660 00:57:34,660 --> 00:57:36,162 You're gonna murder yourself? 661 00:57:36,662 --> 00:57:38,706 Very possibly, that could happen. 662 00:57:42,376 --> 00:57:44,712 I was scared to death to go on my own. 663 00:57:45,629 --> 00:57:50,050 How many lead singers broke away from their bands and became successful? 664 00:57:56,056 --> 00:57:57,892 Especially with him separating from the group, 665 00:57:57,975 --> 00:57:59,351 I wanted to make a statement. 666 00:58:01,562 --> 00:58:02,938 This was a new beginning. 667 00:58:24,335 --> 00:58:26,712 Everything we could get, we threw into that show. 668 00:58:26,754 --> 00:58:28,756 It was like a big Broadway play. 669 00:58:29,131 --> 00:58:31,550 We had Vincent Price, we even had dancers. 670 00:58:37,389 --> 00:58:41,602 There was this one girl that was the most beautiful dancer you've ever seen. 671 00:58:41,936 --> 00:58:44,021 She just floated out there. 672 00:58:49,318 --> 00:58:53,364 I was 18 years old, and the very first day I met Alice, 673 00:58:53,447 --> 00:58:56,116 he comes waltzing in the room all dressed in white. 674 00:58:56,617 --> 00:58:59,578 Flowing black hair, these gorgeous blue eyes. 675 00:59:01,413 --> 00:59:05,251 I remember getting lost in conversation with Alice about childhood. 676 00:59:05,417 --> 00:59:08,420 We found out that we're both pastor's kids. 677 00:59:08,963 --> 00:59:11,757 Every night, there were very romantic moments with her. 678 00:59:11,966 --> 00:59:15,135 And I started looking forward more to those moments than anything else. 679 00:59:38,409 --> 00:59:41,829 I was best man at Alice's wedding and life was fantastic. 680 00:59:42,121 --> 00:59:44,748 We actually pulled Nightmare off and it actually worked. 681 00:59:45,207 --> 00:59:47,001 Everybody loved the show. 682 00:59:47,459 --> 00:59:49,587 My solo career was a success. 683 00:59:50,045 --> 00:59:51,839 So I was in my glory. 684 01:00:02,683 --> 01:00:07,146 Ladies and gentlemen, the debonair and adorable Alice Cooper. 685 01:00:17,197 --> 01:00:18,574 You're not exactly what I expected. 686 01:00:18,699 --> 01:00:21,869 I kind of expected that grotesque make-up 687 01:00:22,161 --> 01:00:26,540 and those weird crazy costumes and a snake and a coffin 688 01:00:26,582 --> 01:00:28,459 and all those things that drive me crazy. 689 01:00:29,543 --> 01:00:30,836 - You know. - Well... 690 01:00:32,046 --> 01:00:34,840 Well, I'm trying to change my image. 691 01:00:50,939 --> 01:00:52,941 I was becoming a real celebrity. 692 01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:55,861 I would sit down next to Jack Benny and he would be like, 693 01:00:55,903 --> 01:01:00,658 "Alice, everything I see has got your picture on it, it's ridiculous." 694 01:01:01,450 --> 01:01:04,662 George Burns had watched the show and he saw it as vaudeville. 695 01:01:04,995 --> 01:01:08,874 "Yeah, I remember 1923, the great Momar cut his head off and he had a snake." 696 01:01:09,249 --> 01:01:13,921 My mom didn't really consider me a star until I had a picture taken with Frank Sinatra. 697 01:01:14,546 --> 01:01:17,549 Frank would call me Coop. Coop, pretty cool. 698 01:01:21,303 --> 01:01:23,097 Would you welcome, Alice Cooper. 699 01:01:25,265 --> 01:01:27,434 - Hey, big fella. - Hey, baby, what's happening? 700 01:01:28,686 --> 01:01:30,145 - What kind of a snake is this? - This is a boa. 701 01:01:30,229 --> 01:01:32,147 - Is this a boa? - This is actually not a... 702 01:01:36,443 --> 01:01:38,278 Alice Cooper was good TV. 703 01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:41,699 And that's when Alice became more than a rock star. 704 01:01:42,449 --> 01:01:45,911 Almost woven into the fabric of America was this Alice character. 705 01:01:50,082 --> 01:01:53,585 Alice Cooper organised a big clean-up at Riverside Park today. 706 01:01:55,295 --> 01:01:57,464 People accuse you of doing this whole thing for publicity. 707 01:01:57,548 --> 01:01:59,091 What's wrong with that? 708 01:02:11,103 --> 01:02:14,481 Alice was so big and so on that he played Alice all the time. 709 01:02:15,149 --> 01:02:16,358 And Alice drank all the time. 710 01:02:17,151 --> 01:02:20,362 None of us ever really thought about the consequences to him 711 01:02:21,155 --> 01:02:25,117 for being this character. And it started to consume him. 712 01:02:25,242 --> 01:02:26,618 There was no time for Vincent. 713 01:02:27,119 --> 01:02:28,871 He got lost somewhere in the shuffle. 714 01:02:29,705 --> 01:02:31,874 It was just a slow disintegration. 715 01:02:32,499 --> 01:02:34,501 And somebody had to intervene. 716 01:02:49,308 --> 01:02:51,351 I had a house in upstate New York. 717 01:02:51,435 --> 01:02:54,855 So we found a hospital right by the house, and it was bizarre. 718 01:02:55,022 --> 01:02:58,525 It was a lock-up place for people with real mental disorders. 719 01:02:58,859 --> 01:03:01,028 And the people were really scary. 720 01:03:01,570 --> 01:03:03,113 Everybody was whacked. 721 01:03:03,739 --> 01:03:06,825 This was tough, my best friend is in this place with lunatics. 722 01:03:08,410 --> 01:03:09,578 And I put him there. 723 01:03:15,876 --> 01:03:18,128 I remember them closing the door 724 01:03:18,212 --> 01:03:20,798 and realising that I wasn't gonna come out again. 725 01:03:20,881 --> 01:03:21,882 That was it. 726 01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:26,386 And I went, "Wait a minute. Get my manager on the phone. 727 01:03:26,887 --> 01:03:29,389 "Get my wife on the phone. How dare you? 728 01:03:29,515 --> 01:03:33,936 "I'll buy this place and tear it down and build a bar out of it." 729 01:03:40,734 --> 01:03:42,027 There was not one person in there 730 01:03:42,110 --> 01:03:44,905 that one time ever said, "Alice Cooper, rock star." 731 01:03:45,197 --> 01:03:49,034 They were so involved in their own insanity that I was just another guy. 732 01:03:56,750 --> 01:04:00,587 I was away from the responsibility of being Alice Cooper, 733 01:04:00,629 --> 01:04:04,716 away from the parties. And every day I felt a little better. 734 01:04:05,425 --> 01:04:07,761 Finally. Maybe I'm not gonna die. 735 01:04:22,526 --> 01:04:26,780 I'm not a psychiatrist nor a psychologist, but do you think you're cured? 736 01:04:26,989 --> 01:04:29,449 Yeah, I can't even think about drinking. 737 01:04:30,200 --> 01:04:34,288 Do you think that you could turn back to alcohol as a crutch? 738 01:04:34,371 --> 01:04:35,372 No, I don't think so. 739 01:04:35,497 --> 01:04:39,209 I've got a second lease on life on the thing. 740 01:04:39,835 --> 01:04:41,086 And to me, it's real exciting. 741 01:04:41,753 --> 01:04:43,547 And you've now linked up with Bernie Taupin? 742 01:04:43,630 --> 01:04:46,008 Yeah, we've been threatening to write together for years 743 01:04:46,091 --> 01:04:47,217 and finally, we got a chance. 744 01:04:47,426 --> 01:04:49,344 When I got out of the hospital, I was totally serious about it, 745 01:04:49,469 --> 01:04:51,305 I said, "Now I wanna write." 746 01:04:51,471 --> 01:04:53,307 And he still thought it was one of those things. 747 01:04:53,390 --> 01:04:55,100 "Yeah, let's go get drunk and talk about it." 748 01:04:56,476 --> 01:05:00,814 My association with Alice was based on pure friendship. 749 01:05:01,148 --> 01:05:04,192 We were two people who really liked being together. 750 01:05:04,401 --> 01:05:07,654 And when he came out of the sanatorium, 751 01:05:07,738 --> 01:05:12,659 he approached me with the idea of doing an album based on his experiences. 752 01:05:12,951 --> 01:05:16,038 - The album starts... - And I'll sing the bits I can sing. 753 01:05:16,872 --> 01:05:19,041 Alice had a pool house at the back. 754 01:05:19,333 --> 01:05:21,335 We would just hang out in there 755 01:05:21,418 --> 01:05:25,631 and he would talk to me about these characters from the sanatorium. 756 01:05:35,015 --> 01:05:40,020 We just wanted to do something together and be able to say it was our project. 757 01:05:40,479 --> 01:05:43,023 I like to think that was a help to him. 758 01:05:45,776 --> 01:05:48,487 This album was a total confession. 759 01:05:48,779 --> 01:05:51,406 The audience has been through my alcoholism with me. 760 01:05:52,115 --> 01:05:54,284 So let's let them be through the cure with me. 761 01:05:55,035 --> 01:05:57,204 I was sober. What if you don't love me like this? 762 01:06:17,265 --> 01:06:18,934 Hello, anybody there? 763 01:06:19,142 --> 01:06:20,894 All right. Well, listen, 764 01:06:21,186 --> 01:06:23,397 everybody who makes music 765 01:06:23,522 --> 01:06:27,818 feels that they're kind of out of sync as the years go by. 766 01:06:28,193 --> 01:06:32,030 But I never meant the Pistols to be a challenge to Alice Cooper. 767 01:06:32,072 --> 01:06:34,282 More like a compliment, thank you. 768 01:06:34,658 --> 01:06:36,535 He had an influence on us. 769 01:06:37,577 --> 01:06:41,415 I think anything that Alice has ever done is good enough for me. 770 01:06:42,082 --> 01:06:43,542 Except golf. 771 01:06:43,667 --> 01:06:45,335 Alice, lay off the golf. 772 01:06:52,092 --> 01:06:55,929 It was a new period of time, there's new kind of bands coming out. 773 01:06:56,054 --> 01:07:00,600 I was totally sober and not fully armed to fight them. 774 01:07:01,143 --> 01:07:03,979 But there was something called cocaine. 775 01:07:09,901 --> 01:07:13,697 Personally, myself, at the time, who had a drug problem. 776 01:07:13,864 --> 01:07:17,492 It's the old thing of "I'll be right back." 777 01:07:17,743 --> 01:07:19,536 Go to the bathroom and I'd be doing coke. 778 01:07:19,995 --> 01:07:24,499 And Alice, he's not a stupid guy, he's catching wind of something here. 779 01:07:24,791 --> 01:07:26,960 I kind of thought, "Well, I quit drinking. 780 01:07:27,044 --> 01:07:29,963 "I can probably allow myself to do something like this." 781 01:07:30,047 --> 01:07:33,925 And I started, like everybody else, "One little hit of this, a little hit of that." 782 01:07:33,967 --> 01:07:36,011 Just that little push over the cliff. 783 01:07:37,095 --> 01:07:39,431 All these punk kids thought they were faster than me. 784 01:07:40,140 --> 01:07:42,142 I am going to destroy you all. 785 01:07:48,690 --> 01:07:50,609 For those of you unfamiliar with Cooper, 786 01:07:50,734 --> 01:07:53,904 you could say he's the forefather of some of those punk rock groups. 787 01:07:54,321 --> 01:07:56,823 When Cooper and his entourage arrived this morning, 788 01:07:56,865 --> 01:08:00,494 I found him minus his make-up and perfectly calm and sober. 789 01:08:00,660 --> 01:08:01,953 How has it changed your music? 790 01:08:02,204 --> 01:08:04,873 Well, now the great thing about it is I lost 20 pounds. 791 01:08:04,998 --> 01:08:06,374 The energy is so much up, 792 01:08:06,458 --> 01:08:08,460 it's like my old running days when I was a miler. 793 01:08:08,502 --> 01:08:10,003 I've got that same kind of energy. 794 01:08:13,173 --> 01:08:14,174 Hello. 795 01:08:14,424 --> 01:08:18,011 You have been chosen to take a glimpse at the first galaxy tour. 796 01:08:18,678 --> 01:08:20,597 We're now travelling through outer space. 797 01:08:21,014 --> 01:08:24,184 For Alice, it's easy to get caught up in something new. 798 01:08:24,684 --> 01:08:28,396 I remember freebasing with him, which I'd not done before. 799 01:08:29,314 --> 01:08:31,399 And I said, "But coke's okay, dude." 800 01:08:31,483 --> 01:08:35,278 But when you start smoking that shit, it's like smoking your home. 801 01:08:36,404 --> 01:08:42,077 He sunk into an abyss that was way, way more tragic than any of the drinking. 802 01:08:42,160 --> 01:08:43,995 And it broke my heart, 803 01:08:44,037 --> 01:08:46,414 because this was my buddy. 804 01:08:46,498 --> 01:08:47,582 Galaxy tour. 805 01:08:48,834 --> 01:08:51,128 It's one of the hardest things I ever did. 806 01:08:51,211 --> 01:08:56,383 But I remember leaving that pool house and just going, 807 01:08:56,967 --> 01:09:00,387 "I can't stay here, because I'm gonna go down, too." 808 01:09:03,640 --> 01:09:07,686 We're very sorry. Alice Cooper is ill. 809 01:09:11,565 --> 01:09:15,402 Bullshit! Bullshit! Bullshit! Bullshit! 810 01:09:20,490 --> 01:09:23,493 I remember saying, "I am not gonna get up at six in the morning 811 01:09:23,577 --> 01:09:27,205 "and work till twelve at night to make you money to go kill yourself with." 812 01:09:27,414 --> 01:09:29,666 "You wanna kill yourself? Be my guest." 813 01:09:34,629 --> 01:09:37,424 it was apparent that Alice had an addictive personality 814 01:09:37,674 --> 01:09:39,759 when I can see that he went through that stuff. 815 01:09:40,218 --> 01:09:42,429 Either way, it was gonna be a very fast slide down. 816 01:09:46,433 --> 01:09:49,561 We're back now with Alice Cooper. Now, is Alice somebody else? 817 01:09:49,603 --> 01:09:52,606 Yeah, well, Alice is the character that performs, really. 818 01:09:53,315 --> 01:09:54,608 - And... - And then who are you? 819 01:09:54,649 --> 01:09:56,651 I'm just Ozzie Nelson. 820 01:09:58,653 --> 01:09:59,738 You're a family man I understand. 821 01:09:59,946 --> 01:10:02,616 - Yes, I have a little girl. - Well, how are you at home? 822 01:10:05,368 --> 01:10:10,165 When this little baby came along, my primary concern was her well-being. 823 01:10:10,665 --> 01:10:15,337 So I was not so focused on what was going on with him at the time 824 01:10:15,795 --> 01:10:17,964 until it spiralled out of control. 825 01:10:18,340 --> 01:10:21,218 Whatever happened to good old Vince Furnier back there on the trail? 826 01:10:21,301 --> 01:10:22,928 - What happened to him? - He's still around. 827 01:10:22,969 --> 01:10:25,639 - Yeah? - He was fun and everything like that. 828 01:10:25,847 --> 01:10:29,017 I'm still Vince a lot of the time. Vince. 829 01:10:29,517 --> 01:10:30,894 I look like Vince to you? 830 01:10:31,645 --> 01:10:32,729 Hi, I'm Vince. 831 01:10:32,979 --> 01:10:37,901 I was raising our daughter and I was watching my husband die before my eyes. 832 01:10:38,360 --> 01:10:41,529 And I was powerless to make any difference. 833 01:10:41,655 --> 01:10:44,616 We will continue with Alice Cooper, with more conversation and more music 834 01:10:44,658 --> 01:10:45,825 right after these announcements. 835 01:10:47,744 --> 01:10:50,538 I had begun divorce proceedings saying, 836 01:10:50,789 --> 01:10:55,627 "Can't do this. Won't continue to raise our child with this. 837 01:10:56,628 --> 01:10:58,797 "And I'm moving to Chicago. 838 01:10:59,673 --> 01:11:02,092 "And I hope you get through this." 839 01:11:02,425 --> 01:11:04,678 Mommy, where's daddy? 840 01:11:06,888 --> 01:11:09,015 He's been gone for so long. 841 01:11:12,018 --> 01:11:14,437 Do you think he'll ever come home? 842 01:11:44,634 --> 01:11:46,219 I blamed all this on Alice. 843 01:11:46,845 --> 01:11:50,348 I said, "None of this would have happened if it wouldn't have been for my success. 844 01:11:50,598 --> 01:11:52,642 "I worked too hard, I should've stopped." 845 01:11:52,934 --> 01:11:54,519 I should've this, I should've that. 846 01:11:54,561 --> 01:11:56,104 And there was a million should'ves. 847 01:11:56,855 --> 01:11:58,606 And now, I was by myself. 848 01:11:59,858 --> 01:12:02,485 Just me and Alice. 849 01:12:22,547 --> 01:12:27,052 I had been up for about three days and I was locked in my house up there 850 01:12:27,427 --> 01:12:31,639 with a rock the size of a baseball and a gun. 851 01:12:32,766 --> 01:12:36,311 I had all Sheryl's dresses around the windows. 852 01:12:36,394 --> 01:12:40,106 I didn't want anybody around to see what I had turned into. 853 01:13:02,545 --> 01:13:03,880 I remember I got up and I went... 854 01:13:03,963 --> 01:13:06,591 I looked in the mirror and my eyes were bleeding. 855 01:13:07,384 --> 01:13:09,969 And then I realised that was what my make-up looked like. 856 01:13:11,054 --> 01:13:14,641 And I had that one second of 857 01:13:15,975 --> 01:13:18,103 "What insanity are you in right now?" 858 01:13:56,182 --> 01:14:01,020 I took the rock that I still owed money on, put it in the toilet and flushed it. 859 01:14:02,188 --> 01:14:04,232 And I Went, "What did I just do?" 860 01:14:04,607 --> 01:14:06,943 And I went back to bed and I laid in bed 861 01:14:07,026 --> 01:14:09,362 and I slept for about 14 hours. 862 01:14:16,578 --> 01:14:19,747 Finally, I woke up, I went in the other room, 863 01:14:19,831 --> 01:14:22,041 opened the doors up, there was sunlight outside. 864 01:14:22,459 --> 01:14:24,210 It was like a point where I realised 865 01:14:24,252 --> 01:14:27,213 I was either gonna die right there or I was gonna live. 866 01:14:34,596 --> 01:14:38,057 I had done a hundred million miles since I left Phoenix, 867 01:14:38,725 --> 01:14:42,687 and ended up coming back to start all over. 868 01:14:50,195 --> 01:14:52,363 My husband and I, we just went and picked him up 869 01:14:52,405 --> 01:14:54,741 and helped him out as much as we could. 870 01:14:55,116 --> 01:14:58,912 His condition was very bad. He couldn't hardly function. 871 01:15:07,545 --> 01:15:09,964 I believe that the only time that God can help you, 872 01:15:10,048 --> 01:15:11,758 is when you have no fight left. 873 01:15:12,258 --> 01:15:16,012 All you can do is just go, "Help! I'm done." 874 01:15:22,894 --> 01:15:26,189 My husband and I were fasting and praying. 875 01:15:26,314 --> 01:15:29,317 We just had to trust that the Lord was gonna be with him. 876 01:15:29,776 --> 01:15:32,487 We had seen another time when he came through a miracle. 877 01:15:33,071 --> 01:15:34,614 This was his second miracle. 878 01:15:42,455 --> 01:15:46,376 When I finally came out of the hospital, I called up Sheryl and said, "it's clone." 879 01:15:46,834 --> 01:15:48,545 She said, "What do you mean?" I said, "I'm over it. 880 01:15:48,836 --> 01:15:50,964 "No craving for alcohol, for drugs." 881 01:15:51,005 --> 01:15:54,592 Of course she's going, "Right. Gonna take a little more than that 882 01:15:54,634 --> 01:15:56,636 "to make me believe this." 883 01:15:57,303 --> 01:15:59,472 I said, "Well, I'll agree to counselling, 884 01:15:59,556 --> 01:16:02,183 "but you got to arrange it and I might show up." 885 01:16:15,154 --> 01:16:18,449 God saved me, so I'm here now. Let's see what happens. 886 01:16:18,950 --> 01:16:20,326 I think that's when God can go, 887 01:16:20,451 --> 01:16:23,788 "Okay, now you're ready? Ready to start this?" 888 01:17:07,874 --> 01:17:10,001 Alice Cooper raised us. 889 01:17:10,043 --> 01:17:13,296 He raised a bunch of sick motherfucking little kids. 890 01:17:13,379 --> 01:17:18,384 Children of the '70s who became the sick motherfucking '80s rock stars. 891 01:17:18,468 --> 01:17:20,428 We came from this man's loins. 892 01:17:20,553 --> 01:17:23,264 He ejaculated and glam metal was born. 893 01:17:29,520 --> 01:17:32,398 This metal thing snuck up on me a little bit. 894 01:17:32,857 --> 01:17:35,610 There was these bands now that were show bands. 895 01:17:36,194 --> 01:17:39,072 They're image bands and they wrote good songs. 896 01:17:39,572 --> 01:17:45,578 Once again, the world had moved on and now Alice Cooper fit in. 897 01:17:46,245 --> 01:17:49,165 I kind of felt like I can take my crown back. 898 01:17:49,916 --> 01:17:52,585 But I wasn't a rock star any more. 899 01:17:52,960 --> 01:17:54,754 I was a dad and a husband. 900 01:17:54,796 --> 01:17:58,424 Could I become that Alice character again? 901 01:18:33,292 --> 01:18:34,836 After five years away, 902 01:18:34,919 --> 01:18:38,589 my return to the stage was Halloween night in my hometown Detroit 903 01:18:38,965 --> 01:18:43,469 for a concert broadcast live on MTV to millions of teenagers. 904 01:18:50,643 --> 01:18:52,103 I was terrified. 905 01:18:52,145 --> 01:18:56,232 I remember walking for about two hours in a circle. 906 01:18:56,941 --> 01:18:59,652 When that music starts, I don't know what's gonna happen. 907 01:19:00,194 --> 01:19:03,531 What if Alice doesn't show up? I'd never played him straight. 908 01:19:03,990 --> 01:19:05,825 What if I go out there and I'm just Vince? 909 01:19:37,356 --> 01:19:39,817 Soon as the band started, I said, "This is it." 910 01:19:39,901 --> 01:19:44,572 My back was rigid. When I walked out there and I looked at the audience, it was, "Yeah!" 911 01:20:05,384 --> 01:20:11,891 I finally figured out that this character didn't wanna live in my world. 912 01:20:12,433 --> 01:20:14,393 He only wanted to be on stage. 913 01:20:14,644 --> 01:20:17,939 As soon as he walked off the stage, the curtain came down, he was gone. 914 01:20:18,147 --> 01:20:21,234 Because Alice didn't wanna live in the house I lived in. 915 01:20:21,317 --> 01:20:24,403 He didn't wanna be married. He didn't wanna play golf. 916 01:20:24,445 --> 01:20:25,696 He wouldn't do any of that stuff. 917 01:20:26,155 --> 01:20:28,032 He just wanted to perform. 918 01:20:52,306 --> 01:20:56,644 I think it was so amazing after being almost dead and near the bottom 919 01:20:56,936 --> 01:21:01,941 that he could sell out Joe Louis Arena in Detroit, where the first spark really started, 920 01:21:02,191 --> 01:21:06,487 and have Alice live as Alice with a healthy Vincent behind him. 921 01:21:15,621 --> 01:21:18,374 Friends in high school, dreamy-eyed kids, 922 01:21:18,499 --> 01:21:22,962 clawing their way all the way to the glittery top of the rock pile. 923 01:21:23,379 --> 01:21:27,675 I love what we did, despite the way that the band had broken up. 924 01:21:28,134 --> 01:21:31,637 Here's this vision that began in art class. 925 01:21:31,721 --> 01:21:35,182 And now the Alice character is known worldwide. 926 01:21:35,266 --> 01:21:36,726 I'm very proud of that. 927 01:21:47,904 --> 01:21:51,407 When I first got on stage and sang, "I'm eighteen and I like it", 928 01:21:51,824 --> 01:21:54,160 I was close enough to eighteen to believe that. 929 01:21:55,494 --> 01:21:58,539 And then you go through this incredible hell 930 01:21:59,081 --> 01:22:03,628 to get back to the place where you're 18 and you love it again. 931 01:22:04,045 --> 01:22:07,506 And you can raise the crutch up and go, "I won!" 932 01:26:33,647 --> 01:26:35,733 So that was Alice Cooper. 933 01:26:35,816 --> 01:26:37,151 You should see his sister, 934 01:26:37,234 --> 01:26:38,527 James Fenimore. 82402

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