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In my heart, I always knew what was right.
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I never had a doubt of who God was
or who the devil was.
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Because of that, I had a moral compass.
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There were things I wouldn't do.
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And maybe I created Alice to do those things.
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I was the biggest rock star in the world.
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But this Alice character nearly killed me.
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It's hard to believe I fell so far.
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Before I was Alice, I was Vincent Furnier
and I lived a really all-American childhood.
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My dad was a pastor,
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so I was in church on Wednesday night,
Friday night, all day Sunday.
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And I didn't lie, steal or swear.
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I was the perfect '50s kid.
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But I grew up in Detroit.
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So cars, street violence
and rock 'n' roll music was in the DNA.
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I was sort of a frail kid.
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I had asthma, really bad.
And every winter, I was under an inhaler.
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Finally the doctor said,
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"Get him out of this cold climate,
get him some place hot."
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And that was Phoenix.
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My very being here was a miracle.
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I had appendicitis so bad, the doctor said,
"I don't know how he's alive right now.
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"There's so much poison in his system.
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"I can't guarantee he's going to survive this."
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My mom and dad were
literally on the floor praying.
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The next day, they walked in
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and I was sitting up, chewing gum,
and reading an Archie Comic.
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After they had done the operation,
I had this huge scar.
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God said, "I'm gonna put this mark on you."
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Every time I'd look at my scar,
I knew that my life was a miracle.
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The story of Alice Cooper really begins
in high school art class.
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In school, I was always drawing,
that's all I did.
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I just drew, drew and drew.
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And that's how I met a character
named Dennis Dunaway,
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who immediately became my best friend.
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I was in art class,
and here comes this skinny little guy
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who is the only one in the class
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that seems to be interested in
Surrealism and dada art.
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We would go through books and I'd say,
"Look at this guy, Magritte."
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And Vince would say,
"Oh, yeah, but check out this guy, Braque."
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Who, sir, is the greatest
living painter in the world?
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Today, Dali.
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Salvador Dali totally piqued our imagination.
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We'd sit there and go, "Who is this guy?"
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He had this moustache
and he was wearing giraffe skin suits
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and Aladdin shoes,
and he did all kinds of insane things.
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Dali was outrageously different,
and Vince and I liked that.
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We liked any artistic statement
that had impact.
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3,000 screaming teenagers
are at New York's Kennedy Airport
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to greet, you guessed it, the Beatles.
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We were total Beatlemaniacs.
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The style, the sound, the look.
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They had long hair and
parents were confused,
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which was a big part of it.
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The school decided to have a talent show.
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And I thought of this idea of
doing a spoof of the Beatles.
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We decided we were gonna wear Beatle wigs,
so we could be the Earwigs.
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Then we realised,
"How are we gonna do these songs?
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"We don't know how to play."
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Dennis says, "I know a guy
that plays guitar, Glen Buxton.
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"He's a juvenile delinquent,
and he's getting thrown out every day,
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"and he smokes cigarettes, and he's cool,
and he can play about six songs."
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We thought, "This guy's pretty tough,
I don't know if we should approach him.
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"He probably wouldn't go for it."
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But we went up and told him
what we were gonna do.
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And he said he didn't want to wear a wig
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but he would play guitar
and play the Beatles songs.
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The curtain opened and we just tried to
pretend to do what the Beatles were doing.
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Sing into the mic, wiggle your head.
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Everybody was excited because
Beatlemania was so new.
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We got a big reaction.
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All the girls started screaming.
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That was the gasoline on the fire.
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I wanted that experience
over and over and over and over again.
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So that summer, Dennis learned bass,
I learned to sing in tune.
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We would go over the same song
50 times a night.
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Every day, we got a little bit better.
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And then this club opened up called the VIP.
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It was a rock 'n' roll teenage dance hall.
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Sold Coca-Colas
and hot dogs and French fries.
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Vince and the guys came in on
a Saturday afternoon and showed their stuff.
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I liked them a lot, and I said,
"I'd like to use you,
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"but we've got to do
something with the name."
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We went, "Yeah, the Earwigs
is what we started with."
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We were ready to evolve to the next bug.
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The Spiders in the spider sanctum.
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Boy, when they opened, it was instant.
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We became the house band at the VIP Club.
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We didn't even do Beatles at that point,
we played the Yardbirds,
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Rolling Stones, the Who.
Make it loud, make it rock.
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We got to actually open for
the Yardbirds and did all their songs.
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I remember the Yardbirds
come out for their set
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and half the crowd left.
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There were even some people complaining
that they were doing our songs.
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They'll Blow Your Mind from the sensational
Spiders from Phoenix.
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We had a number two record on KRUX
and we're still in high school.
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Our senior year, we owned the place.
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Every senior girl, every freshman girl,
"Wow. You guys are in the Spiders?"
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By now, church was
way down the menu on priorities.
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But there was those times when
there was a definite pull back and forth.
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"What do you mean you have
a show tonight? You have church."
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So if I did do the show, I felt really guilty.
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Dad was the preacher, so his obligation
was to go to church on Sunday.
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But he would go to church
and people would say, "Look at his hair."
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I don't recall too many people
complaining right to your face,
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but we knew there was a lot of whispering.
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But what can you do?
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He was gonna stay in his band,
he was gonna grow his hair.
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Everybody in church thought
I was going off the deep end.
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It really angered me because, what is
the difference if I have long hair or not?
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I was growing up and I knew
that there was something more out there.
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Here comes Salvador Dali,
here comes the Beatles.
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When all these elements come together...
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I wanted to be sucked into that.
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I wanted to get to LA,
and I wanted to play rock 'n' roll
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and meet girls and do everything
I could possibly do to be a rock star.
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The last thing on my mind was church.
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It was 1967 in Los Angeles.
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The heart of the love generation.
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The whole hippy movement.
They were just everywhere.
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I could not believe it.
We were just in this fantasy world.
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We walked down Sunset Strip.
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The Byrds are over here.
The Doors are over here.
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Buffalo Springfield, everything.
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And we're like, "Okay we've got to do this."
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So you have the hopes and dreams
that, when you get there,
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everything's just gonna fall into place.
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But you get there and you realise that
there's 10,000 other bands there
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from every state,
who were the best band in their state.
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And they were all trying to
get into the same clubs.
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Now, the one thing about LA
is that it is designed to destroy your band.
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There's so many distractions,
so many parties, so many girls.
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That's how we met the GTOs.
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They were a girl band that lived
in the basement of Frank Zappa's log cabin.
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They were professional partiers.
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Girls from another planet.
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I remember the day we all met the boys.
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They were cute,
but they were pretty darn straight.
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They were almost like this oddball,
kind of reserved, gentle group of guys
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in the midst of a whole lot of
very stoned people.
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Vince and I were pretty innocent, really.
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But hanging outwith the GTOs,
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there was experimentation going on,
that's for sure.
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We got turned onto
these little pieces of paper
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that would bend your mind extremely.
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Not me, I was totally straight.
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I didn't drink, I didn't smoke,
I didn't do anything.
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But I went to a party one night,
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and I just happened to run into
an old friend from church, Judy Jones,
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who I had a little crush on,
back in the old days.
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She handed me a beer.
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This was still maybe a chance to hit on her.
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I don't want her to think I don't drink beer.
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That night, I was just praying
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that Vince would walk in the door.
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And I'm talking about a door that would
stretch like it was made out of rubber.
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And I'm talking about a room
that wasn't square any more,
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and all kinds of stuff like that.
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Vince was the only one that would be
down to earth and be an anchor.
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That night, I had two beers, maybe three.
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And I was just blind drunk.
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They had to carry me home.
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The door opens up, Dennis is in there.
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He's standing next to the drapes
and he goes,
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"Who would wear pants this size?"
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Who walks in the door?
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Vince, who is now plastered.
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And I'm like,
"Oh, no. This is terrible. This is terrible."
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We were smart enough to realise
that nobody in LA cared about Phoenix.
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You had to start all over here.
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I said, "The Spiders is really dated,
we've got to come up with another name."
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Somebody send, โWhat about 'the Nazi?โ
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It almost has a fuzz tone sound to it. Nazz.
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"Or what if we went the other way?
What if we were 'the Flowers'?"
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"Or what if we were 'Springtime'?"
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"Or what about something really crazy,
like the Husky Baby Sandwich?"
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So then, Neal Smith, our drummer,
the Platinum God,
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decides to drop acid
and consult the Ouija board.
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I asked the Ouija board,
"Did I live in a previous lifetime?
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"What was my name?"
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And it spelled out a German name.
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So I said, "Okay, this isn't working out."
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Then Vince sat down to the Ouija board.
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And he said, "Did I live in a previous life?"
It said yes.
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He said, "Where?" It said in England.
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"And how was I killed?"
it said he was killed as a witch.
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And he said, "What was my name?"
And it spells out "Alice Cooper".
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I said, "Wow, Alice Cooper sounds like
a little old lady that lives down the street.
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"Makes cookies for everybody.
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"But there's a lot of bodies
buried in that cellar."
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So the name stuck
and Alice Cooper was born.
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The day that we played as
Alice Cooper for the first time,
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I looked around, everybody in all three bands
on the bill were wearing Levi's.
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And I said, "We've got to be different."
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They saw that there was a need
to be more and more outrageous,
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so we helped them out.
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We always wore a lot of clothes,
a lot of boas, vests, belts, jangly things.
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And we would just put them on the boys.
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And they loved it.
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The GTOs told us this thrift store
was selling old Ice Capades outfits.
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For a quarter a pound.
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So we went in and we bought 50 pounds.
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This image was now part of Alice Cooper.
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But we weren't musically
as good as we needed to be,
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so we used a lot of theatrics to get attention.
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If I found a watermelon backstage,
that was a prop.
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If I found a broom, it was something
you could swing around your head.
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You can ride on it.
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A hammer, a light bulb.
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No matter what it was, why not
incorporate it into the show somehow.
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How do you become Alice Cooper?
Well, you create it.
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Miss Christine and Miss Pamela,
they went to Frank Zappa
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and they said, "Wait till you see this band."
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Frank saw a picture of us and he went,
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"Wow, how weird is that? A male GTOs.
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"I could use that.
Have them here at seven o'clock tomorrow."
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The next morning, we showed up,
knock on the door,
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knock on the door, the door opens.
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Miss Christine is standing there
and goes into shock.
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We barge right in, set up all of
our equipment and started playing.
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It was so loud I remember
the picture on the wall went crooked.
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Frank comes down and he goes,
"What are you doing?"
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And we said, "You said seven."
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"I meant seven at night."
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He listened and he went, "I don't get it.
Where are you guys from?"
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I said, "Phoenix." And he goes,
"Phoenix, that's a cowboy town.
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"Now I really don't get it."
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And that's when he said,
"Do you have a manager?"
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And we said, "No."
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We may have even said, "What's a manager?"
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I don't know, at that point.
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I moved out to California from New York.
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My life was completely fucked.
234
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I worked as a probation officer,
quit the first day.
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Drove up to LA,
saw the Hollywood Landmark Motel.
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Checked in, got friendly with
a whole collection of people living there.
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Arthur Lee from Love,
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the Chambers Brothers,
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Jefferson Airplane.
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It was just crazy.
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I, in college, had done a little dealing,
so I started dealing to all the guys.
242
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And then Lester Chambers said,
243
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"if the police come and ask you
how do you pay for your hotel room
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"what are you gonna tell them?"
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I told him, "I don't know."
And he said, "You Jewish?"
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And I said, "Yeah."
He said, "You should be a manager."
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"Great, who do I manage?"
248
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And Lester said, "We have this group
living in our basement called Alice Cooper."
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Lester brought us over to
the Landmark Hotel,
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we knock on the door, open the door,
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and it's like a wall of fog.
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When you got through the fog,
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there's Janis Joplin, there's Jim Morrison,
254
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and there's Jimi Hendrix,
just all getting high.
255
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We're standing there in rock royalty
'cause Shep had the grass.
256
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Clearly, he knew what he was doing.
257
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So we signed with Shep Gordon that night.
258
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The next day, we go to Frank Zappa
and he says, "Who's that guy?"
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I said, "That's our manager."
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And he goes,
"You didn't have a manager yesterday."
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And I went, "Yeah, we met him last night."
262
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So we all shook hands
and we made a deal with Zappa.
263
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That started the journey.
264
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We were on Frank Zappa's label.
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That was the biggest thing
that ever happened to us.
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When we went into the studio,
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Frank said,
"I don't want to do layer upon layer of sound.
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"The charm of your band
is that you can do this live."
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Frank says, "I want it to sound like
I'm driving by a garage
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"and the band is practising."
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So we just start tuning up,
adjusting the amps and stuff.
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"Okay, Frank, I think we're ready to go now."
273
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He says, "We got them. We got the takes."
274
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"What, we didn't even play yet."
275
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He says, "We can fix it in the mix."
276
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Frank looked at his watch,
"Okay, I'm gonna be back at five.
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"Anything more that you guys record,
that's the album."
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Then he came back at 5:15,
and picked up the tape,
279
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and that was Pretties For You.
280
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Lester Bangs reviewed Pretties For You
and said,
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"This album is a tragic waste of plastic."
282
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Even though we had the stamp
of approval of Zappa,
283
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we were kind of the joke of the town.
284
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People were just like, "Alice Cooper?
285
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"Look at these guys,
I'm gonna throw a beer at them."
286
00:24:14,704 --> 00:24:18,833
One time, we played a show for 6,000 hippies
that were freaked out on acid.
287
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And when we came out,
it was like a nightmare.
288
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The place just emptied,
people were running for the doors.
289
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It was like somebody yelled, "Fire!"
290
00:24:37,894 --> 00:24:42,064
Bill Graham, a promoter, he said,
"You tell these fucking assholes
291
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"either they play fucking music
or they fucking act.
292
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"They're not doing both
on my fucking stage.
293
00:24:48,362 --> 00:24:50,865
"Get these motherfuckers out of here."
294
00:24:51,115 --> 00:24:54,660
Alice Cooper was really hated
in Los Angeles.
295
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We basically left Los Angeles
with our tails between our legs.
296
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It was a tough time.
We were completely desolate.
297
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But we just put our heads down
and kept going.
298
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And our mantra was we would move into
the first city
299
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where we got a standing ovation.
300
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There was a long period of time
that we were stray dogs without a home,
301
00:25:36,827 --> 00:25:39,121
just wandering around,
playing wherever we could play.
302
00:25:39,705 --> 00:25:42,875
We were living out of suitcases
in cheap hotels.
303
00:25:42,959 --> 00:25:45,586
Bouncing cheques, blackballed by clubs.
304
00:25:45,628 --> 00:25:47,630
"Look out for these guys."
305
00:25:47,755 --> 00:25:51,342
But Vince and I had
that long distance mentality.
306
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There's no rear-view mirror.
307
00:25:53,177 --> 00:25:55,555
If something fails, it's behind us.
308
00:26:02,144 --> 00:26:07,316
At one point, Shep says, "I got us a gig
at a big pop festival worth $2,000.
309
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"2,000 could keep us going for quite a while."
310
00:26:09,735 --> 00:26:13,030
So we played the Saugatuck Pop Festival
in Detroit.
311
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Detroit was the antithesis of LA.
312
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Every band was up there for blood.
313
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:41,684
The MC5 were like a full-out show band.
314
00:26:41,767 --> 00:26:44,854
They were like Ike & Tina Turner
but with a bad attitude.
315
00:26:44,979 --> 00:26:47,523
And I went, "Wow. Where are we?"
316
00:26:50,693 --> 00:26:53,029
Then Iggy comes on and then,
"Bam! impact."
317
00:27:00,369 --> 00:27:03,164
Iggy literally drained the audience
of their energy.
318
00:27:03,205 --> 00:27:04,832
I don't want to go on after that guy.
319
00:27:05,041 --> 00:27:06,917
I'm used to going on after a blues band.
320
00:27:11,672 --> 00:27:15,343
We couldn't follow the Stooges
by trying to out-power them.
321
00:27:15,384 --> 00:27:18,220
We would have to be much more dramatic.
322
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The band came out and I just thought
they were fucking great.
323
00:27:27,730 --> 00:27:29,940
There seemed to be a contest in the band
324
00:27:30,024 --> 00:27:32,526
for who could have the longest,
most feminine hair.
325
00:27:32,943 --> 00:27:34,528
I think the drummer won.
326
00:27:35,488 --> 00:27:38,699
It was great theatrics,
everything was odd or weird.
327
00:27:38,908 --> 00:27:41,952
And nobody was doing anything
quite like that at the time.
328
00:27:47,792 --> 00:27:51,879
What they were doing was Salvador Dali
with electric guitar.
329
00:27:51,921 --> 00:27:54,382
And Detroit was open to that.
330
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All they care about is, "Do you produce?
Do you sweat? Do you entertain the people?"
331
00:28:00,554 --> 00:28:02,807
And if you do that, they'll love you.
332
00:28:13,025 --> 00:28:16,904
That night, we killed them.
Finally, an audience got it.
333
00:28:16,946 --> 00:28:21,117
We got our standing ovation
and it felt like coming home.
334
00:28:40,845 --> 00:28:41,846
Shep knew people.
335
00:28:41,929 --> 00:28:46,475
They wanted to do a big concert called
the Toronto Rock Revival.
336
00:28:46,559 --> 00:28:49,186
Shep spent a month
helping them put that thing together.
337
00:28:49,270 --> 00:28:50,771
And they get John Lennon.
338
00:28:50,813 --> 00:28:52,314
Shep says, "You don't have to pay me.
339
00:28:52,481 --> 00:28:56,652
"The payment's gonna be Alice Cooper
goes on right before John Lennon."
340
00:28:57,862 --> 00:29:01,449
The stadium was absolutely full, packed.
341
00:29:01,490 --> 00:29:05,703
The crowd is getting very antsy.
There was tons of excitement.
342
00:29:06,036 --> 00:29:10,166
There was a Beatle gonna be going on
next to us and we're a no-name.
343
00:29:10,332 --> 00:29:12,793
I knew that was a moment
where we had to do something.
344
00:29:12,835 --> 00:29:14,879
You don't get to play with John Lennon
too often.
345
00:29:14,962 --> 00:29:16,505
Alice Cooper!
346
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:41,489
We get on stage
and the audience is a little bewildered.
347
00:29:42,782 --> 00:29:45,701
But the energy behind the band, they dug.
348
00:29:51,707 --> 00:29:56,378
At the end of the show, the idea was
to open up three feather pillows,
349
00:29:56,545 --> 00:29:59,256
CO2 cartridge, so it looked like snow.
350
00:30:06,055 --> 00:30:08,724
For some reason,
there was a chicken backstage.
351
00:30:08,766 --> 00:30:12,102
And when the feather pillows went out,
I threw the chicken up.
352
00:30:12,186 --> 00:30:14,522
The next thing, I looked down
and there's a chicken.
353
00:30:14,563 --> 00:30:18,901
I went, "Okay.
It had feathers, it had wings, it should fly."
354
00:30:19,527 --> 00:30:21,237
It's a bird, right? A chicken's a bird.
355
00:30:21,278 --> 00:30:24,907
So I picked up the chicken
and I chucked it in the audience.
356
00:30:25,199 --> 00:30:27,785
It came down
and people grabbed the chicken.
357
00:30:28,661 --> 00:30:31,956
Let's just say
it wasn't healthy for the chicken.
358
00:30:32,456 --> 00:30:36,335
The audience tore it to pieces
and threw it back up on stage.
359
00:30:36,418 --> 00:30:38,963
It was just blood, head, feathers.
360
00:30:39,046 --> 00:30:41,590
The crowd was totally shocked.
361
00:30:41,924 --> 00:30:44,844
This whole stadium was dead quiet.
362
00:30:49,265 --> 00:30:53,769
We killed a chicken in front of 70,000 hippies.
363
00:30:56,021 --> 00:30:59,275
All of a sudden, we were
the most notorious band on the planet.
364
00:30:59,358 --> 00:31:01,777
And everybody wanted to know
about Alice Cooper.
365
00:31:02,444 --> 00:31:05,322
At that point,
the whole group was Alice Cooper.
366
00:31:05,406 --> 00:31:09,618
But the PR lady said she didn't know how to
make five people called Alice Cooper stars.
367
00:31:09,660 --> 00:31:12,788
But if we could pick one person,
that she knew how to do.
368
00:31:14,248 --> 00:31:18,878
This is Alice Cooper and anybody
can have what they want out of Alice Cooper.
369
00:31:19,753 --> 00:31:22,214
I'm not trying to press or push anything.
370
00:31:22,298 --> 00:31:26,844
The whole theme of the thing is to attack,
just to have fun.
371
00:31:26,927 --> 00:31:29,471
I get off just scaring people.
372
00:31:29,722 --> 00:31:32,349
It's almost like a sexual thing.
373
00:31:32,808 --> 00:31:37,646
To go on stage and completely expose
myself as far as my inner personality,
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00:31:37,730 --> 00:31:40,983
my whole Mr Hyde type of personality.
375
00:32:01,921 --> 00:32:06,425
Even though we were notorious,
we still didn't have anything on the radio.
376
00:32:06,592 --> 00:32:10,638
People were dying to love this band,
but what was missing?
377
00:32:11,305 --> 00:32:12,890
A freakin' hit song.
378
00:32:12,973 --> 00:32:16,352
So we looked at bands
that had a nice string of hits.
379
00:32:16,894 --> 00:32:19,229
And the Guess Who kept popping up.
380
00:32:19,313 --> 00:32:20,731
So we did our research and found out
381
00:32:20,814 --> 00:32:25,152
that a company out of Toronto called
Nimbus 9 made their hit records.
382
00:32:26,028 --> 00:32:28,614
I went to Toronto
and waited and waited in the office.
383
00:32:28,697 --> 00:32:31,450
And I think the second day,
this young guy came out.
384
00:32:36,538 --> 00:32:40,209
My boss said,
"Whatever you do, get rid of Alice Cooper."
385
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:46,590
He took one look at the picture of the band,
these five creatures of indeterminate sex,
386
00:32:46,757 --> 00:32:51,553
and he didn't want to be in the same county
with them, never mind in the same studio.
387
00:32:51,845 --> 00:32:54,974
But Shep is irascible
and wouldn't take no for an answer.
388
00:32:55,057 --> 00:32:58,102
So finally, I agreed to go to New York
and see them play.
389
00:33:10,155 --> 00:33:15,411
New York heard about this half-girl,
half-guy, half-alien band that killed animals.
390
00:33:15,494 --> 00:33:20,499
So everybody that was anybody
in the underground hip world was there.
391
00:33:20,916 --> 00:33:26,255
And our attitude was,
"Let's just kill 'em with Detroit rock 'n' roll."
392
00:33:30,300 --> 00:33:35,472
The show opened up with Alice at the lip
of the stage with bloodshot red eyes
393
00:33:35,556 --> 00:33:40,686
and blood-red gums and gleaming teeth,
scowling right in front of my face
394
00:33:40,769 --> 00:33:43,647
as this band of monsters hit the stage.
395
00:33:56,869 --> 00:33:59,538
It was the most amazing thing I'd ever seen.
396
00:33:59,955 --> 00:34:03,333
There were no T-shirts, there were no jeans.
It was sets and props and lights.
397
00:34:03,500 --> 00:34:06,420
I said, "This isn't rock 'n' roll.
It's the beginning of a cultural movement!"
398
00:34:10,466 --> 00:34:13,594
After the show, I came bounding up
the stairs into the dressing room,
399
00:34:13,677 --> 00:34:16,096
had my hand in the air,
and I said, "We'll do it!
400
00:34:16,138 --> 00:34:19,224
"We'll produce you
and you will make hit records!"
401
00:34:19,308 --> 00:34:21,185
We're like, "Yeah, right, kid."
402
00:34:21,310 --> 00:34:25,647
Glenn's like, "I'd buy him a drink,
but he's not old enough."
403
00:34:55,928 --> 00:34:57,304
When we went into the studio,
404
00:34:57,346 --> 00:35:00,390
Bob and I talked about Alice Cooper
in the third person.
405
00:35:00,474 --> 00:35:05,896
So I could play Alice and be as insane
as I wanted to be behind this mask.
406
00:35:08,649 --> 00:35:12,569
I saw Alice Cooper
as all kinds of different crazy characters.
407
00:35:12,694 --> 00:35:15,364
So each song got dealt with theatrically.
408
00:35:15,489 --> 00:35:17,616
Dwight Fry was cut with a straightjacket on.
409
00:35:19,368 --> 00:35:21,203
So when he was singing,
"I've to get out of here,
410
00:35:21,245 --> 00:35:22,621
"I've to get out of here,
411
00:35:24,081 --> 00:35:26,458
"'l've got to get out of here."
He really meant it.
412
00:35:38,595 --> 00:35:42,850
This character that we created
was coming to life right in front of us.
413
00:35:44,935 --> 00:35:48,147
Doing it live was one thing,
we could project it live.
414
00:35:48,230 --> 00:35:53,610
But with Bob Ezrin, we were able to
capture that in the grooves on record.
415
00:35:53,777 --> 00:35:57,781
Which meant that now we're gonna do
something dramatic musically.
416
00:36:33,483 --> 00:36:35,944
We had this song
that we used to warm up with.
417
00:36:36,028 --> 00:36:37,988
It went on for 10 minutes.
418
00:36:38,071 --> 00:36:41,033
And Bob kept saying,
"What are you singing there, 'I'm edgy'?"
419
00:36:41,116 --> 00:36:42,284
"No, 'I'm 18'."
420
00:36:49,208 --> 00:36:53,629
Bob saw that as the song
that would put us on the map.
421
00:36:53,670 --> 00:36:57,424
But he would say,
"That's not a song, that's a whole album."
422
00:36:57,883 --> 00:37:00,302
Bob said, "Just make it 'Bam! Bam! Bam!'
423
00:37:00,344 --> 00:37:02,763
"So it keeps coming at you
all the way through the song."
424
00:37:02,804 --> 00:37:04,181
Which is what a good single does.
425
00:37:14,316 --> 00:37:17,486
All right, this is the new 45
from Alice Cooper, Eighteen.
426
00:37:17,569 --> 00:37:19,696
On our way to rehearsal,
the radio was always on
427
00:37:19,780 --> 00:37:21,657
and all of a sudden, we heard Eighteen.
428
00:37:23,075 --> 00:37:24,368
It stunned us.
429
00:37:26,578 --> 00:37:29,748
We pulled the car over
and I went, "That's our record!"
430
00:37:29,957 --> 00:37:34,378
So we just started 24-hour-a-day
calling the hotlines of every radio station.
431
00:37:34,461 --> 00:37:38,006
I had my mother doing it, my brother.
Everybody had every relative doing it.
432
00:37:38,131 --> 00:37:40,592
Please may I hear
I'm Eighteen by Alice Cooper?
433
00:37:40,801 --> 00:37:43,595
Eventually, they moved it
in the heavy rotation.
434
00:37:43,679 --> 00:37:45,639
So, it would be I'm Eighteen,
435
00:37:45,681 --> 00:37:48,725
then the Beatles, the Stones, and Hendrix,
and then I'm Eighteen.
436
00:37:48,809 --> 00:37:50,394
We just went, "What?
437
00:37:50,477 --> 00:37:52,896
"You can't say Alice Cooper
and Rolling Stones in the same sentence.
438
00:37:52,980 --> 00:37:54,356
"That's sacrilege."
439
00:37:54,439 --> 00:37:58,193
It's like, "What if they find out
that we're Alice Cooper?"
440
00:38:20,382 --> 00:38:21,633
We were an overnight sensation.
441
00:38:21,842 --> 00:38:26,263
All of a sudden, we were in limousines.
All of a sudden, we were in airplanes.
442
00:38:26,346 --> 00:38:28,390
To us, it was so much fun.
443
00:38:28,557 --> 00:38:32,060
We just drank beer all day
and just said, "What's next?"
444
00:38:32,436 --> 00:38:35,355
With a hit record, we didn't have to
bite the head off of a chicken.
445
00:38:35,605 --> 00:38:39,234
We play I'm Eighteen
and 5,000 people would go crazy.
446
00:38:58,170 --> 00:39:02,341
His name is Alice Cooper,
the latest superstar to hit the rock scene.
447
00:39:02,424 --> 00:39:04,968
His father was a preacher,
so was his grandfather.
448
00:39:05,052 --> 00:39:06,511
They hoped he would be, too.
449
00:39:06,595 --> 00:39:08,722
Instead, he became a rock musician.
450
00:39:23,445 --> 00:39:25,322
Our audience was a new audience.
451
00:39:25,405 --> 00:39:28,492
It was not
the Crosby, Stills and Nash audience.
452
00:39:29,159 --> 00:39:33,288
Kids on the lunatic fringe of society,
the ones that were left out,
453
00:39:33,830 --> 00:39:37,292
they finally had a rock star
that represented them.
454
00:39:48,053 --> 00:39:50,806
I was wondering
when you started to adopt the theatrics.
455
00:39:50,847 --> 00:39:52,641
Some of the outrageous things
that you do on stage
456
00:39:52,682 --> 00:39:54,893
to provoke people
and to shake them up a little bit.
457
00:39:54,976 --> 00:39:58,438
Well, there's such an enormous lack
of entertainment in rock music.
458
00:39:59,398 --> 00:40:01,358
It got to the point where,
if you go to a concert,
459
00:40:01,441 --> 00:40:04,569
all you're gonna see is a guitar solo,
a drum solo.
460
00:40:04,653 --> 00:40:06,154
And how far can that go?
461
00:40:06,238 --> 00:40:08,490
You wanna see something
that you're gonna go home and talk about
462
00:40:08,532 --> 00:40:10,659
and scare your parents with.
463
00:40:10,742 --> 00:40:13,245
So if some 14-year-old boy goes home
wearing eye make-up, saying,
464
00:40:13,328 --> 00:40:15,664
"Alice Copper wears it, why can't I wear it?"
465
00:40:15,705 --> 00:40:17,290
Of course, his parents are going to say...
466
00:40:33,723 --> 00:40:37,978
We knew chopping up the baby dolls
would really drive parents crazy.
467
00:40:38,019 --> 00:40:41,356
Then we thought,
"Well, is Alice wearing a snake on stage,
468
00:40:41,398 --> 00:40:43,358
"something that parents would hate?"
469
00:40:43,442 --> 00:40:45,277
"They'd just cringe."
470
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:47,195
"That's perfect. Then let's use a snake."
471
00:41:09,634 --> 00:41:14,389
Alice with this snake and the make-up!
This is going to blow it right off the map.
472
00:41:14,473 --> 00:41:15,849
Especially, when they hang me.
473
00:41:41,750 --> 00:41:45,337
The sadomasochistic exploits
of West Coast mass murderers
474
00:41:45,879 --> 00:41:48,507
are now acted out on stages
across the country.
475
00:41:48,590 --> 00:41:52,010
For it appears, America's children
are turning on to a new message.
476
00:41:52,135 --> 00:41:56,806
The message of sex, death and violence,
as portrayed on stage by Alice Cooper.
477
00:42:19,829 --> 00:42:23,792
How are we gonna outdo this?
That's all I ever thought about.
478
00:42:23,875 --> 00:42:26,670
We picked up ideas like sponges.
479
00:42:26,962 --> 00:42:29,798
You never know
where inspiration's gonna come from.
480
00:42:29,839 --> 00:42:32,717
On the road,
the television was our constant friend.
481
00:42:33,385 --> 00:42:34,803
Two cars!
482
00:42:36,096 --> 00:42:39,182
Let others wallow with Watergate.
We're gonna do our job.
483
00:42:39,474 --> 00:42:40,642
Skinny!
484
00:42:41,142 --> 00:42:42,644
Hey, Skinny!
485
00:42:42,852 --> 00:42:44,771
Hey, hold your horses, Mugs, I'm comin'.
486
00:42:44,813 --> 00:42:45,981
Relax, Skinny.
487
00:42:46,523 --> 00:42:47,607
School's out!
488
00:42:49,150 --> 00:42:51,486
Did he just say, "School's out"?
489
00:43:30,066 --> 00:43:32,110
We thought Eighteen was our anthem.
490
00:43:32,527 --> 00:43:35,697
We didn't know that
School's Out would be even bigger than that.
491
00:43:35,739 --> 00:43:39,492
In the music business,
if you have a hit record, you are in.
492
00:43:40,201 --> 00:43:44,331
Giving Alice Cooper a hit
was like the lunatics running the asylum.
493
00:43:44,706 --> 00:43:48,543
So I said let's put panties on the album.
The mothers would go crazy.
494
00:43:48,627 --> 00:43:50,545
This is the last straw.
495
00:43:50,879 --> 00:43:52,505
No more Alice Cooper!
496
00:43:52,589 --> 00:43:56,217
So then, Shep goes, "Alice Cooper
is gonna take over the Hollywood Bowl,
497
00:43:56,259 --> 00:43:59,929
"where all the classy acts play,
and turn it into Hellzapoppin'."
498
00:44:19,991 --> 00:44:22,494
Alice Cooper programmes!
Free record in the back!
499
00:44:27,916 --> 00:44:31,378
I've seen him three years ago,
a real small concert in Michigan.
500
00:44:31,419 --> 00:44:33,380
And I followed him out here.
501
00:44:34,589 --> 00:44:37,717
He just does freaky things on stage
that are just really out of sight to watch.
502
00:44:37,759 --> 00:44:38,802
His music, man.
503
00:44:38,885 --> 00:44:42,263
I like the way he presents himself
and performs up on the stage, man.
504
00:44:42,305 --> 00:44:46,267
It gets in me. I don't know. I just freak out.
505
00:44:46,309 --> 00:44:49,145
Well, see, I'm this perfectly normal guy.
506
00:44:50,271 --> 00:44:52,774
I'm not a freak and I like Alice Cooper.
507
00:45:00,281 --> 00:45:03,702
It's the Alice Cooper show
and how many here feel it,
508
00:45:03,785 --> 00:45:06,121
they want to to get it on?
509
00:45:06,996 --> 00:45:09,249
Wolf man Jack, one of my all-time idols,
510
00:45:09,290 --> 00:45:13,461
he comes out on stage
with a camel, an elephant and harem girls,
511
00:45:13,503 --> 00:45:14,838
and introduced the band.
512
00:45:14,921 --> 00:45:18,675
"All right, everybody!
Wolf man Jack, Alice Cooper, yeah!"
513
00:45:18,758 --> 00:45:20,969
I'm going, "That's the Wolf man!"
514
00:45:21,010 --> 00:45:25,640
The legendary Alice Cooper!
515
00:45:45,285 --> 00:45:47,245
You're on stage, you're playing,
516
00:45:47,328 --> 00:45:50,039
you've had the camel,
you've had Wolf man Jack,
517
00:45:50,165 --> 00:45:52,250
so what are you going to do next?
518
00:45:52,333 --> 00:45:56,838
Shep was like, "We're gonna pay
these helicopter guys to fly over the crowd."
519
00:45:56,880 --> 00:46:00,508
And then here comes
all of these panties, different colours,
520
00:46:00,550 --> 00:46:02,761
falling down on the audience.
521
00:46:03,261 --> 00:46:05,054
And I'm ready to just burst
522
00:46:05,138 --> 00:46:08,975
because I am so excited
about how cool this idea is.
523
00:46:18,401 --> 00:46:20,862
It was a show I'll never forget.
524
00:46:20,904 --> 00:46:25,366
I remember the helicopter coming over,
and me fighting people in the crowd.
525
00:46:25,450 --> 00:46:28,161
I so desperately
wanted a pair of these panties.
526
00:46:31,414 --> 00:46:33,875
For me, it was the perfect rock 'n' roll show
of that time.
527
00:46:33,958 --> 00:46:36,920
Alice had this incredible ability
to be a ring leader.
528
00:46:37,212 --> 00:46:39,881
And he wrapped that audience
around his little finger for two hours.
529
00:46:40,340 --> 00:46:41,341
Stop!
530
00:46:43,259 --> 00:46:44,761
You know what?
531
00:46:46,346 --> 00:46:49,557
A lot of people say
me and my boys are funny boys.
532
00:46:50,058 --> 00:46:52,560
Isn't that just a little bit silly?
533
00:46:53,478 --> 00:46:55,897
Goodbye, everybody in Los Angeles.
534
00:46:56,064 --> 00:46:57,649
School's out! Now!
535
00:46:57,732 --> 00:47:02,445
I was inspired, I was moved by
what Alice put together as a showman.
536
00:47:02,529 --> 00:47:04,322
You couldn't help but just love this guy.
537
00:47:10,829 --> 00:47:12,330
Alice Cooper!
538
00:47:25,468 --> 00:47:27,595
Alice. I love him.
539
00:47:27,804 --> 00:47:30,056
- Do you think he's sexy?
- Yeah.
540
00:47:31,307 --> 00:47:33,268
- Do you wanna have sex or fall in love?
- Yeah.
541
00:47:33,601 --> 00:47:34,978
I feel so excited and everything.
542
00:47:35,061 --> 00:47:38,731
Just seeing him in person
on stage is just great. it really is.
543
00:47:38,773 --> 00:47:40,608
- He's better than Mick Jagger?
- Yeah.
544
00:47:40,692 --> 00:47:42,944
- What would you do if you met him?
- Everything.
545
00:47:46,197 --> 00:47:47,991
- Parents hate him, though.
- Yeah.
546
00:48:16,477 --> 00:48:20,982
All of a sudden, Alice became
more in the fish bowl than the rest of us.
547
00:48:21,065 --> 00:48:25,403
I'd walk in Alice's room
and it would be Alice staring at a television
548
00:48:25,486 --> 00:48:30,325
and all of these people staring at Alice,
watching him watch television.
549
00:48:30,408 --> 00:48:34,120
If Alice said, "Can somebody get me a beer",
everybody would scramble.
550
00:48:34,203 --> 00:48:36,414
It wasn't a world of reality.
551
00:48:37,081 --> 00:48:41,461
This character had to be
constantly fucked up, really out there.
552
00:48:41,502 --> 00:48:45,340
And it wasn't necessarily his nature.
But the alcohol really drove him.
553
00:48:45,632 --> 00:48:47,508
I got lost in the character.
554
00:48:47,550 --> 00:48:50,678
Why would I wanna go back to being Vince
when Alice was so successful?
555
00:48:50,762 --> 00:48:55,516
"Hey, everybody loves Alice. I'll be Alice.
Vince is fine, but who needs him?"
556
00:48:56,059 --> 00:48:58,394
I was on fire with this Alice character.
557
00:49:16,663 --> 00:49:20,917
The most musical act to be playing
on pop radio. Alice was so much more.
558
00:49:21,668 --> 00:49:23,795
We're able to manufacture moments
559
00:49:23,878 --> 00:49:27,006
then spread them out
to every corner of everything.
560
00:49:37,266 --> 00:49:41,437
We got a call from Salvador Dali's people
that he wanted to meet us.
561
00:49:42,063 --> 00:49:45,358
I said, "This is gonna be great."
He's the guy. It's like meeting the Beatles.
562
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:47,568
We go to the St Moritz hotel,
563
00:49:47,610 --> 00:49:51,114
Salvador Dali walks in and he goes,
"The Dali is here".
564
00:49:51,572 --> 00:49:55,702
Then he went into this speech about
"The Dali, the greatest artist.
565
00:49:55,743 --> 00:49:58,079
"The Cooper, the greatest artist."
566
00:49:58,121 --> 00:50:00,665
He wants to do this moving hologram.
567
00:50:00,873 --> 00:50:05,211
He said, "I want you to sit in the middle
and wear four million dollars in diamonds."
568
00:50:05,253 --> 00:50:09,465
And he has this brain with him.
And he goes, "This is the Alice brain."
569
00:50:09,549 --> 00:50:13,428
It's got ants crawling all over it,
and the ants spelled out Alice and Dali,
570
00:50:13,761 --> 00:50:16,014
and a chocolate รฉclair
running down the back.
571
00:50:16,389 --> 00:50:19,767
Alice being with Dali
was as significant as a record.
572
00:50:20,268 --> 00:50:22,061
'Cause it defined who he was.
573
00:50:22,603 --> 00:50:24,897
Alice was becoming a real icon.
574
00:50:46,836 --> 00:50:49,338
I wasn't even told that it was going on.
575
00:50:49,422 --> 00:50:54,552
The band had been sent one place
and Alice went to the unveiling.
576
00:50:54,969 --> 00:51:00,600
Here's something that's symbolic
of our achievement of our vision,
577
00:51:01,142 --> 00:51:03,102
and then I was excluded.
578
00:51:03,644 --> 00:51:06,981
That really hurt me because,
even though I was happy for Alice,
579
00:51:07,023 --> 00:51:11,778
I just felt like I was left out of something
that him and I should be sharing.
580
00:52:00,034 --> 00:52:03,204
Things started changing with success.
581
00:52:03,746 --> 00:52:06,374
The band became treated like outsiders
582
00:52:06,415 --> 00:52:10,503
and barely a step above any fan
that would try to get into Alice's room.
583
00:52:10,878 --> 00:52:12,296
We always had two limos.
584
00:52:12,380 --> 00:52:13,881
And one time, I got in one of them
585
00:52:13,923 --> 00:52:18,386
and somebody came out to me and said,
"You can't sit in there. That's Alice's car."
586
00:52:18,511 --> 00:52:22,348
All the shit that this band
had ever gone through together as one unit.
587
00:52:22,390 --> 00:52:25,059
I had a switchblade,
and I was ready to stab this motherfucker.
588
00:52:31,315 --> 00:52:35,444
Alice needed his own car because
Alice would have to go to radio stations,
589
00:52:35,528 --> 00:52:39,615
Alice would have to go to red carpets,
Alice would have to attend all these parties.
590
00:52:40,116 --> 00:52:43,578
Everybody else would go into town,
take a nap, go to the pool,
591
00:52:43,744 --> 00:52:45,413
but Alice never had a minute.
592
00:52:46,038 --> 00:52:49,542
Even though touring was hard,
it didn't ever feel like work.
593
00:52:49,625 --> 00:52:53,004
But now, six or seven years of it
was catching up with me.
594
00:52:53,087 --> 00:52:55,548
"Okay, wait. I got to take a breath."
595
00:52:55,673 --> 00:52:57,049
Look at me.
596
00:52:57,800 --> 00:52:59,802
Would you buy a car from this man?
597
00:53:01,304 --> 00:53:04,599
I needed a break from the band,
I needed a break from touring,
598
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:06,475
I needed a break from Alice.
599
00:53:07,435 --> 00:53:08,603
But you can't stop.
600
00:53:08,686 --> 00:53:11,606
You got to put another album out
that was gonna be a number one.
601
00:53:21,282 --> 00:53:25,286
The band had decided
we wanted to get back to being a band,
602
00:53:25,328 --> 00:53:27,747
not just the vehicle for Alice.
603
00:53:27,788 --> 00:53:31,167
We're going to get back to our roots
and we're gonna work up this song
604
00:53:31,250 --> 00:53:33,794
that we had had for a million years
called Woman Machine.
605
00:53:39,133 --> 00:53:42,261
We're feeling really good about this,
and then Bob showed up.
606
00:53:42,303 --> 00:53:44,931
"Bob, we got this new song. Listen to this."
607
00:53:44,972 --> 00:53:48,726
We didn't even get past the intro
when Bob stopped us and said,
608
00:53:48,809 --> 00:53:51,520
"Wait, I think you should play
something different on that."
609
00:53:51,604 --> 00:53:54,690
"What are you talking about?
We didn't even play the song yet."
610
00:53:55,983 --> 00:53:58,069
Ladies and gentlemen,
it's a privilege and pleasure
611
00:53:58,152 --> 00:54:01,155
to introduce the world's greatest singer,
Alice Cooper.
612
00:54:04,617 --> 00:54:07,995
The band really felt
like Alice and I had too much control.
613
00:54:08,079 --> 00:54:10,706
They had a vision
and they wanted to see that vision through.
614
00:54:10,790 --> 00:54:12,625
For the first time ever in our relationship,
615
00:54:12,667 --> 00:54:14,669
they just go,
"No, that's not the way we hear that.
616
00:54:14,752 --> 00:54:16,754
"We would rather do it this way."
617
00:54:22,885 --> 00:54:24,178
I had a little meeting with Alice
618
00:54:24,220 --> 00:54:27,598
and I just said, "it's obvious that they don't
really wanna work with me any more.
619
00:54:27,682 --> 00:54:31,143
"And if you ever decide
to go out on your own, let me know.
620
00:54:31,477 --> 00:54:33,187
"'Cause I love you
and I love working with you."
621
00:54:33,813 --> 00:54:35,356
I always believed in the sure thing.
622
00:54:35,439 --> 00:54:38,734
And I know that Bob was the only one
that understood Alice Cooper.
623
00:54:38,818 --> 00:54:39,860
But I'm still in the band,
624
00:54:39,944 --> 00:54:43,531
I'm going, "Okay well, if Bob's not in,
we're still gonna make a record, right?"
625
00:54:43,572 --> 00:54:47,702
So we flew to Los Angeles
and did the next album without Bob Ezrin.
626
00:55:05,511 --> 00:55:08,556
I went and lived in Malibu
while we were recording.
627
00:55:08,681 --> 00:55:12,893
It probably was one of the first times
that I ever avoided the other guys.
628
00:55:14,228 --> 00:55:17,815
We were fracturing and this album
just didn't have any cohesion.
629
00:55:18,190 --> 00:55:20,026
We didn't have Bob to hold it together.
630
00:55:21,402 --> 00:55:25,114
Everybody was frustrated
and the band wanted to do solo albums.
631
00:55:25,573 --> 00:55:28,326
Other bands have done it,
but we were sort of warned by management
632
00:55:28,409 --> 00:55:31,162
that it's not a good idea to take a year off
and do a solo album.
633
00:55:31,245 --> 00:55:33,164
I don't know if it's a warning or a threat.
634
00:55:39,253 --> 00:55:42,298
My attitude was,
if you do solo records then Alice
635
00:55:42,381 --> 00:55:43,758
does his and you're fucked.
636
00:55:44,050 --> 00:55:46,969
'Cause he's the only one people care about.
So please don't do it.
637
00:55:47,178 --> 00:55:49,263
But if you do it,
then we better do what we do.
638
00:55:56,645 --> 00:55:58,689
Shep was smart enough to understand that,
639
00:55:58,773 --> 00:56:01,817
if there is gonna be a solo career,
I should own the name.
640
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:04,278
I walk down the street,
nobody says, "Hey, Vince."
641
00:56:04,612 --> 00:56:05,863
Everybody goes, "Hey, Alice."
642
00:56:06,447 --> 00:56:08,574
I was the character of Alice Cooper.
643
00:56:09,575 --> 00:56:13,996
Could any of the rest of us
have carried off that character?
644
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:15,081
I don't think so.
645
00:56:15,122 --> 00:56:18,376
So when Alice became the solo artist,
then I realised,
646
00:56:18,459 --> 00:56:22,254
"Okay, Alice Cooper the band
is definitely over."
647
00:56:22,338 --> 00:56:27,343
It was very, very tough.
The separation from the art.
648
00:56:27,510 --> 00:56:30,638
But mostly, the separation of friendship.
649
00:56:34,141 --> 00:56:38,145
Dennis was the first one that encouraged me
to become something other than myself.
650
00:56:38,646 --> 00:56:41,565
For the Vince part of me,
it was hard to leave Dennis behind.
651
00:56:41,982 --> 00:56:43,359
But now I was Alice.
652
00:56:44,318 --> 00:56:46,153
And Alice had a life of his own.
653
00:57:20,855 --> 00:57:23,023
Of course, coming through and the
photographers are snapping this,
654
00:57:23,065 --> 00:57:25,484
- Alice Cooper...
- I just left my drink over there.
655
00:57:25,526 --> 00:57:27,903
And I don't have anything in my liver.
656
00:57:28,487 --> 00:57:29,738
- Tell me, are you working on an album?
- Yes.
657
00:57:29,822 --> 00:57:31,615
Name of the album is
Welcome To My Nightmare.
658
00:57:31,699 --> 00:57:32,700
That sounds interesting.
659
00:57:32,783 --> 00:57:34,410
I'm the murderer and I will be murdered.
660
00:57:34,660 --> 00:57:36,162
You're gonna murder yourself?
661
00:57:36,662 --> 00:57:38,706
Very possibly, that could happen.
662
00:57:42,376 --> 00:57:44,712
I was scared to death to go on my own.
663
00:57:45,629 --> 00:57:50,050
How many lead singers broke away
from their bands and became successful?
664
00:57:56,056 --> 00:57:57,892
Especially with him separating
from the group,
665
00:57:57,975 --> 00:57:59,351
I wanted to make a statement.
666
00:58:01,562 --> 00:58:02,938
This was a new beginning.
667
00:58:24,335 --> 00:58:26,712
Everything we could get,
we threw into that show.
668
00:58:26,754 --> 00:58:28,756
It was like a big Broadway play.
669
00:58:29,131 --> 00:58:31,550
We had Vincent Price, we even had dancers.
670
00:58:37,389 --> 00:58:41,602
There was this one girl that was
the most beautiful dancer you've ever seen.
671
00:58:41,936 --> 00:58:44,021
She just floated out there.
672
00:58:49,318 --> 00:58:53,364
I was 18 years old,
and the very first day I met Alice,
673
00:58:53,447 --> 00:58:56,116
he comes waltzing in the room
all dressed in white.
674
00:58:56,617 --> 00:58:59,578
Flowing black hair,
these gorgeous blue eyes.
675
00:59:01,413 --> 00:59:05,251
I remember getting lost in conversation
with Alice about childhood.
676
00:59:05,417 --> 00:59:08,420
We found out that we're both pastor's kids.
677
00:59:08,963 --> 00:59:11,757
Every night, there were
very romantic moments with her.
678
00:59:11,966 --> 00:59:15,135
And I started looking forward more
to those moments than anything else.
679
00:59:38,409 --> 00:59:41,829
I was best man at Alice's wedding
and life was fantastic.
680
00:59:42,121 --> 00:59:44,748
We actually pulled Nightmare off
and it actually worked.
681
00:59:45,207 --> 00:59:47,001
Everybody loved the show.
682
00:59:47,459 --> 00:59:49,587
My solo career was a success.
683
00:59:50,045 --> 00:59:51,839
So I was in my glory.
684
01:00:02,683 --> 01:00:07,146
Ladies and gentlemen,
the debonair and adorable Alice Cooper.
685
01:00:17,197 --> 01:00:18,574
You're not exactly what I expected.
686
01:00:18,699 --> 01:00:21,869
I kind of expected that grotesque make-up
687
01:00:22,161 --> 01:00:26,540
and those weird crazy costumes
and a snake and a coffin
688
01:00:26,582 --> 01:00:28,459
and all those things that drive me crazy.
689
01:00:29,543 --> 01:00:30,836
- You know.
- Well...
690
01:00:32,046 --> 01:00:34,840
Well, I'm trying to change my image.
691
01:00:50,939 --> 01:00:52,941
I was becoming a real celebrity.
692
01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:55,861
I would sit down next to Jack Benny
and he would be like,
693
01:00:55,903 --> 01:01:00,658
"Alice, everything I see
has got your picture on it, it's ridiculous."
694
01:01:01,450 --> 01:01:04,662
George Burns had watched the show
and he saw it as vaudeville.
695
01:01:04,995 --> 01:01:08,874
"Yeah, I remember 1923, the great Momar
cut his head off and he had a snake."
696
01:01:09,249 --> 01:01:13,921
My mom didn't really consider me a star
until I had a picture taken with Frank Sinatra.
697
01:01:14,546 --> 01:01:17,549
Frank would call me Coop.
Coop, pretty cool.
698
01:01:21,303 --> 01:01:23,097
Would you welcome, Alice Cooper.
699
01:01:25,265 --> 01:01:27,434
- Hey, big fella.
- Hey, baby, what's happening?
700
01:01:28,686 --> 01:01:30,145
- What kind of a snake is this?
- This is a boa.
701
01:01:30,229 --> 01:01:32,147
- Is this a boa?
- This is actually not a...
702
01:01:36,443 --> 01:01:38,278
Alice Cooper was good TV.
703
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:41,699
And that's when Alice became
more than a rock star.
704
01:01:42,449 --> 01:01:45,911
Almost woven into the fabric of America
was this Alice character.
705
01:01:50,082 --> 01:01:53,585
Alice Cooper organised a big clean-up
at Riverside Park today.
706
01:01:55,295 --> 01:01:57,464
People accuse you
of doing this whole thing for publicity.
707
01:01:57,548 --> 01:01:59,091
What's wrong with that?
708
01:02:11,103 --> 01:02:14,481
Alice was so big and so on
that he played Alice all the time.
709
01:02:15,149 --> 01:02:16,358
And Alice drank all the time.
710
01:02:17,151 --> 01:02:20,362
None of us ever really thought
about the consequences to him
711
01:02:21,155 --> 01:02:25,117
for being this character.
And it started to consume him.
712
01:02:25,242 --> 01:02:26,618
There was no time for Vincent.
713
01:02:27,119 --> 01:02:28,871
He got lost somewhere in the shuffle.
714
01:02:29,705 --> 01:02:31,874
It was just a slow disintegration.
715
01:02:32,499 --> 01:02:34,501
And somebody had to intervene.
716
01:02:49,308 --> 01:02:51,351
I had a house in upstate New York.
717
01:02:51,435 --> 01:02:54,855
So we found a hospital right by the house,
and it was bizarre.
718
01:02:55,022 --> 01:02:58,525
It was a lock-up place
for people with real mental disorders.
719
01:02:58,859 --> 01:03:01,028
And the people were really scary.
720
01:03:01,570 --> 01:03:03,113
Everybody was whacked.
721
01:03:03,739 --> 01:03:06,825
This was tough, my best friend
is in this place with lunatics.
722
01:03:08,410 --> 01:03:09,578
And I put him there.
723
01:03:15,876 --> 01:03:18,128
I remember them closing the door
724
01:03:18,212 --> 01:03:20,798
and realising that I wasn't
gonna come out again.
725
01:03:20,881 --> 01:03:21,882
That was it.
726
01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:26,386
And I went, "Wait a minute.
Get my manager on the phone.
727
01:03:26,887 --> 01:03:29,389
"Get my wife on the phone. How dare you?
728
01:03:29,515 --> 01:03:33,936
"I'll buy this place and tear it down
and build a bar out of it."
729
01:03:40,734 --> 01:03:42,027
There was not one person in there
730
01:03:42,110 --> 01:03:44,905
that one time ever said,
"Alice Cooper, rock star."
731
01:03:45,197 --> 01:03:49,034
They were so involved in their own insanity
that I was just another guy.
732
01:03:56,750 --> 01:04:00,587
I was away from the responsibility
of being Alice Cooper,
733
01:04:00,629 --> 01:04:04,716
away from the parties.
And every day I felt a little better.
734
01:04:05,425 --> 01:04:07,761
Finally. Maybe I'm not gonna die.
735
01:04:22,526 --> 01:04:26,780
I'm not a psychiatrist nor a psychologist,
but do you think you're cured?
736
01:04:26,989 --> 01:04:29,449
Yeah, I can't even think about drinking.
737
01:04:30,200 --> 01:04:34,288
Do you think that you could turn back
to alcohol as a crutch?
738
01:04:34,371 --> 01:04:35,372
No, I don't think so.
739
01:04:35,497 --> 01:04:39,209
I've got a second lease on life on the thing.
740
01:04:39,835 --> 01:04:41,086
And to me, it's real exciting.
741
01:04:41,753 --> 01:04:43,547
And you've now linked up
with Bernie Taupin?
742
01:04:43,630 --> 01:04:46,008
Yeah, we've been threatening
to write together for years
743
01:04:46,091 --> 01:04:47,217
and finally, we got a chance.
744
01:04:47,426 --> 01:04:49,344
When I got out of the hospital,
I was totally serious about it,
745
01:04:49,469 --> 01:04:51,305
I said, "Now I wanna write."
746
01:04:51,471 --> 01:04:53,307
And he still thought
it was one of those things.
747
01:04:53,390 --> 01:04:55,100
"Yeah, let's go get drunk and talk about it."
748
01:04:56,476 --> 01:05:00,814
My association with Alice
was based on pure friendship.
749
01:05:01,148 --> 01:05:04,192
We were two people who
really liked being together.
750
01:05:04,401 --> 01:05:07,654
And when he came out of the sanatorium,
751
01:05:07,738 --> 01:05:12,659
he approached me with the idea of
doing an album based on his experiences.
752
01:05:12,951 --> 01:05:16,038
- The album starts...
- And I'll sing the bits I can sing.
753
01:05:16,872 --> 01:05:19,041
Alice had a pool house at the back.
754
01:05:19,333 --> 01:05:21,335
We would just hang out in there
755
01:05:21,418 --> 01:05:25,631
and he would talk to me
about these characters from the sanatorium.
756
01:05:35,015 --> 01:05:40,020
We just wanted to do something together
and be able to say it was our project.
757
01:05:40,479 --> 01:05:43,023
I like to think that was a help to him.
758
01:05:45,776 --> 01:05:48,487
This album was a total confession.
759
01:05:48,779 --> 01:05:51,406
The audience has been through
my alcoholism with me.
760
01:05:52,115 --> 01:05:54,284
So let's let them be
through the cure with me.
761
01:05:55,035 --> 01:05:57,204
I was sober.
What if you don't love me like this?
762
01:06:17,265 --> 01:06:18,934
Hello, anybody there?
763
01:06:19,142 --> 01:06:20,894
All right. Well, listen,
764
01:06:21,186 --> 01:06:23,397
everybody who makes music
765
01:06:23,522 --> 01:06:27,818
feels that they're kind of out of sync
as the years go by.
766
01:06:28,193 --> 01:06:32,030
But I never meant the Pistols
to be a challenge to Alice Cooper.
767
01:06:32,072 --> 01:06:34,282
More like a compliment, thank you.
768
01:06:34,658 --> 01:06:36,535
He had an influence on us.
769
01:06:37,577 --> 01:06:41,415
I think anything that Alice has ever done
is good enough for me.
770
01:06:42,082 --> 01:06:43,542
Except golf.
771
01:06:43,667 --> 01:06:45,335
Alice, lay off the golf.
772
01:06:52,092 --> 01:06:55,929
It was a new period of time,
there's new kind of bands coming out.
773
01:06:56,054 --> 01:07:00,600
I was totally sober
and not fully armed to fight them.
774
01:07:01,143 --> 01:07:03,979
But there was something called cocaine.
775
01:07:09,901 --> 01:07:13,697
Personally, myself, at the time,
who had a drug problem.
776
01:07:13,864 --> 01:07:17,492
It's the old thing of "I'll be right back."
777
01:07:17,743 --> 01:07:19,536
Go to the bathroom and I'd be doing coke.
778
01:07:19,995 --> 01:07:24,499
And Alice, he's not a stupid guy,
he's catching wind of something here.
779
01:07:24,791 --> 01:07:26,960
I kind of thought, "Well, I quit drinking.
780
01:07:27,044 --> 01:07:29,963
"I can probably allow myself
to do something like this."
781
01:07:30,047 --> 01:07:33,925
And I started, like everybody else,
"One little hit of this, a little hit of that."
782
01:07:33,967 --> 01:07:36,011
Just that little push over the cliff.
783
01:07:37,095 --> 01:07:39,431
All these punk kids thought
they were faster than me.
784
01:07:40,140 --> 01:07:42,142
I am going to destroy you all.
785
01:07:48,690 --> 01:07:50,609
For those of you unfamiliar with Cooper,
786
01:07:50,734 --> 01:07:53,904
you could say he's the forefather
of some of those punk rock groups.
787
01:07:54,321 --> 01:07:56,823
When Cooper and his entourage
arrived this morning,
788
01:07:56,865 --> 01:08:00,494
I found him minus his make-up
and perfectly calm and sober.
789
01:08:00,660 --> 01:08:01,953
How has it changed your music?
790
01:08:02,204 --> 01:08:04,873
Well, now the great thing about it
is I lost 20 pounds.
791
01:08:04,998 --> 01:08:06,374
The energy is so much up,
792
01:08:06,458 --> 01:08:08,460
it's like my old running days
when I was a miler.
793
01:08:08,502 --> 01:08:10,003
I've got that same kind of energy.
794
01:08:13,173 --> 01:08:14,174
Hello.
795
01:08:14,424 --> 01:08:18,011
You have been chosen to take a glimpse
at the first galaxy tour.
796
01:08:18,678 --> 01:08:20,597
We're now travelling through outer space.
797
01:08:21,014 --> 01:08:24,184
For Alice, it's easy
to get caught up in something new.
798
01:08:24,684 --> 01:08:28,396
I remember freebasing with him,
which I'd not done before.
799
01:08:29,314 --> 01:08:31,399
And I said, "But coke's okay, dude."
800
01:08:31,483 --> 01:08:35,278
But when you start smoking that shit,
it's like smoking your home.
801
01:08:36,404 --> 01:08:42,077
He sunk into an abyss that was way, way
more tragic than any of the drinking.
802
01:08:42,160 --> 01:08:43,995
And it broke my heart,
803
01:08:44,037 --> 01:08:46,414
because this was my buddy.
804
01:08:46,498 --> 01:08:47,582
Galaxy tour.
805
01:08:48,834 --> 01:08:51,128
It's one of the hardest things I ever did.
806
01:08:51,211 --> 01:08:56,383
But I remember leaving that pool house
and just going,
807
01:08:56,967 --> 01:09:00,387
"I can't stay here,
because I'm gonna go down, too."
808
01:09:03,640 --> 01:09:07,686
We're very sorry. Alice Cooper is ill.
809
01:09:11,565 --> 01:09:15,402
Bullshit! Bullshit! Bullshit! Bullshit!
810
01:09:20,490 --> 01:09:23,493
I remember saying, "I am not gonna get up
at six in the morning
811
01:09:23,577 --> 01:09:27,205
"and work till twelve at night
to make you money to go kill yourself with."
812
01:09:27,414 --> 01:09:29,666
"You wanna kill yourself? Be my guest."
813
01:09:34,629 --> 01:09:37,424
it was apparent that Alice
had an addictive personality
814
01:09:37,674 --> 01:09:39,759
when I can see that he went
through that stuff.
815
01:09:40,218 --> 01:09:42,429
Either way, it was gonna be
a very fast slide down.
816
01:09:46,433 --> 01:09:49,561
We're back now with Alice Cooper.
Now, is Alice somebody else?
817
01:09:49,603 --> 01:09:52,606
Yeah, well, Alice is the character
that performs, really.
818
01:09:53,315 --> 01:09:54,608
- And...
- And then who are you?
819
01:09:54,649 --> 01:09:56,651
I'm just Ozzie Nelson.
820
01:09:58,653 --> 01:09:59,738
You're a family man I understand.
821
01:09:59,946 --> 01:10:02,616
- Yes, I have a little girl.
- Well, how are you at home?
822
01:10:05,368 --> 01:10:10,165
When this little baby came along,
my primary concern was her well-being.
823
01:10:10,665 --> 01:10:15,337
So I was not so focused on
what was going on with him at the time
824
01:10:15,795 --> 01:10:17,964
until it spiralled out of control.
825
01:10:18,340 --> 01:10:21,218
Whatever happened to good old
Vince Furnier back there on the trail?
826
01:10:21,301 --> 01:10:22,928
- What happened to him?
- He's still around.
827
01:10:22,969 --> 01:10:25,639
- Yeah?
- He was fun and everything like that.
828
01:10:25,847 --> 01:10:29,017
I'm still Vince a lot of the time. Vince.
829
01:10:29,517 --> 01:10:30,894
I look like Vince to you?
830
01:10:31,645 --> 01:10:32,729
Hi, I'm Vince.
831
01:10:32,979 --> 01:10:37,901
I was raising our daughter and I was
watching my husband die before my eyes.
832
01:10:38,360 --> 01:10:41,529
And I was powerless to make any difference.
833
01:10:41,655 --> 01:10:44,616
We will continue with Alice Cooper,
with more conversation and more music
834
01:10:44,658 --> 01:10:45,825
right after these announcements.
835
01:10:47,744 --> 01:10:50,538
I had begun divorce proceedings saying,
836
01:10:50,789 --> 01:10:55,627
"Can't do this.
Won't continue to raise our child with this.
837
01:10:56,628 --> 01:10:58,797
"And I'm moving to Chicago.
838
01:10:59,673 --> 01:11:02,092
"And I hope you get through this."
839
01:11:02,425 --> 01:11:04,678
Mommy, where's daddy?
840
01:11:06,888 --> 01:11:09,015
He's been gone for so long.
841
01:11:12,018 --> 01:11:14,437
Do you think he'll ever come home?
842
01:11:44,634 --> 01:11:46,219
I blamed all this on Alice.
843
01:11:46,845 --> 01:11:50,348
I said, "None of this would have happened
if it wouldn't have been for my success.
844
01:11:50,598 --> 01:11:52,642
"I worked too hard, I should've stopped."
845
01:11:52,934 --> 01:11:54,519
I should've this, I should've that.
846
01:11:54,561 --> 01:11:56,104
And there was a million should'ves.
847
01:11:56,855 --> 01:11:58,606
And now, I was by myself.
848
01:11:59,858 --> 01:12:02,485
Just me and Alice.
849
01:12:22,547 --> 01:12:27,052
I had been up for about three days
and I was locked in my house up there
850
01:12:27,427 --> 01:12:31,639
with a rock the size of a baseball and a gun.
851
01:12:32,766 --> 01:12:36,311
I had all Sheryl's dresses
around the windows.
852
01:12:36,394 --> 01:12:40,106
I didn't want anybody around
to see what I had turned into.
853
01:13:02,545 --> 01:13:03,880
I remember I got up and I went...
854
01:13:03,963 --> 01:13:06,591
I looked in the mirror
and my eyes were bleeding.
855
01:13:07,384 --> 01:13:09,969
And then I realised
that was what my make-up looked like.
856
01:13:11,054 --> 01:13:14,641
And I had that one second of
857
01:13:15,975 --> 01:13:18,103
"What insanity are you in right now?"
858
01:13:56,182 --> 01:14:01,020
I took the rock that I still owed money on,
put it in the toilet and flushed it.
859
01:14:02,188 --> 01:14:04,232
And I Went, "What did I just do?"
860
01:14:04,607 --> 01:14:06,943
And I went back to bed and I laid in bed
861
01:14:07,026 --> 01:14:09,362
and I slept for about 14 hours.
862
01:14:16,578 --> 01:14:19,747
Finally, I woke up, I went in the other room,
863
01:14:19,831 --> 01:14:22,041
opened the doors up,
there was sunlight outside.
864
01:14:22,459 --> 01:14:24,210
It was like a point where I realised
865
01:14:24,252 --> 01:14:27,213
I was either gonna die right there
or I was gonna live.
866
01:14:34,596 --> 01:14:38,057
I had done a hundred million miles
since I left Phoenix,
867
01:14:38,725 --> 01:14:42,687
and ended up coming back to start all over.
868
01:14:50,195 --> 01:14:52,363
My husband and I,
we just went and picked him up
869
01:14:52,405 --> 01:14:54,741
and helped him out as much as we could.
870
01:14:55,116 --> 01:14:58,912
His condition was very bad.
He couldn't hardly function.
871
01:15:07,545 --> 01:15:09,964
I believe that the only time
that God can help you,
872
01:15:10,048 --> 01:15:11,758
is when you have no fight left.
873
01:15:12,258 --> 01:15:16,012
All you can do is just go, "Help! I'm done."
874
01:15:22,894 --> 01:15:26,189
My husband and I were fasting and praying.
875
01:15:26,314 --> 01:15:29,317
We just had to trust
that the Lord was gonna be with him.
876
01:15:29,776 --> 01:15:32,487
We had seen another time
when he came through a miracle.
877
01:15:33,071 --> 01:15:34,614
This was his second miracle.
878
01:15:42,455 --> 01:15:46,376
When I finally came out of the hospital,
I called up Sheryl and said, "it's clone."
879
01:15:46,834 --> 01:15:48,545
She said, "What do you mean?"
I said, "I'm over it.
880
01:15:48,836 --> 01:15:50,964
"No craving for alcohol, for drugs."
881
01:15:51,005 --> 01:15:54,592
Of course she's going,
"Right. Gonna take a little more than that
882
01:15:54,634 --> 01:15:56,636
"to make me believe this."
883
01:15:57,303 --> 01:15:59,472
I said, "Well, I'll agree to counselling,
884
01:15:59,556 --> 01:16:02,183
"but you got to arrange it
and I might show up."
885
01:16:15,154 --> 01:16:18,449
God saved me, so I'm here now.
Let's see what happens.
886
01:16:18,950 --> 01:16:20,326
I think that's when God can go,
887
01:16:20,451 --> 01:16:23,788
"Okay, now you're ready?
Ready to start this?"
888
01:17:07,874 --> 01:17:10,001
Alice Cooper raised us.
889
01:17:10,043 --> 01:17:13,296
He raised a bunch of
sick motherfucking little kids.
890
01:17:13,379 --> 01:17:18,384
Children of the '70s who became
the sick motherfucking '80s rock stars.
891
01:17:18,468 --> 01:17:20,428
We came from this man's loins.
892
01:17:20,553 --> 01:17:23,264
He ejaculated and glam metal was born.
893
01:17:29,520 --> 01:17:32,398
This metal thing snuck up on me a little bit.
894
01:17:32,857 --> 01:17:35,610
There was these bands now
that were show bands.
895
01:17:36,194 --> 01:17:39,072
They're image bands
and they wrote good songs.
896
01:17:39,572 --> 01:17:45,578
Once again, the world had moved on
and now Alice Cooper fit in.
897
01:17:46,245 --> 01:17:49,165
I kind of felt like I can take my crown back.
898
01:17:49,916 --> 01:17:52,585
But I wasn't a rock star any more.
899
01:17:52,960 --> 01:17:54,754
I was a dad and a husband.
900
01:17:54,796 --> 01:17:58,424
Could I become that Alice character again?
901
01:18:33,292 --> 01:18:34,836
After five years away,
902
01:18:34,919 --> 01:18:38,589
my return to the stage was Halloween night
in my hometown Detroit
903
01:18:38,965 --> 01:18:43,469
for a concert broadcast live on MTV
to millions of teenagers.
904
01:18:50,643 --> 01:18:52,103
I was terrified.
905
01:18:52,145 --> 01:18:56,232
I remember walking
for about two hours in a circle.
906
01:18:56,941 --> 01:18:59,652
When that music starts,
I don't know what's gonna happen.
907
01:19:00,194 --> 01:19:03,531
What if Alice doesn't show up?
I'd never played him straight.
908
01:19:03,990 --> 01:19:05,825
What if I go out there and I'm just Vince?
909
01:19:37,356 --> 01:19:39,817
Soon as the band started, I said, "This is it."
910
01:19:39,901 --> 01:19:44,572
My back was rigid. When I walked out there
and I looked at the audience, it was, "Yeah!"
911
01:20:05,384 --> 01:20:11,891
I finally figured out that this character
didn't wanna live in my world.
912
01:20:12,433 --> 01:20:14,393
He only wanted to be on stage.
913
01:20:14,644 --> 01:20:17,939
As soon as he walked off the stage,
the curtain came down, he was gone.
914
01:20:18,147 --> 01:20:21,234
Because Alice didn't wanna live
in the house I lived in.
915
01:20:21,317 --> 01:20:24,403
He didn't wanna be married.
He didn't wanna play golf.
916
01:20:24,445 --> 01:20:25,696
He wouldn't do any of that stuff.
917
01:20:26,155 --> 01:20:28,032
He just wanted to perform.
918
01:20:52,306 --> 01:20:56,644
I think it was so amazing after being
almost dead and near the bottom
919
01:20:56,936 --> 01:21:01,941
that he could sell out Joe Louis Arena
in Detroit, where the first spark really started,
920
01:21:02,191 --> 01:21:06,487
and have Alice live as Alice
with a healthy Vincent behind him.
921
01:21:15,621 --> 01:21:18,374
Friends in high school, dreamy-eyed kids,
922
01:21:18,499 --> 01:21:22,962
clawing their way all the way
to the glittery top of the rock pile.
923
01:21:23,379 --> 01:21:27,675
I love what we did,
despite the way that the band had broken up.
924
01:21:28,134 --> 01:21:31,637
Here's this vision that began in art class.
925
01:21:31,721 --> 01:21:35,182
And now the Alice character
is known worldwide.
926
01:21:35,266 --> 01:21:36,726
I'm very proud of that.
927
01:21:47,904 --> 01:21:51,407
When I first got on stage and sang,
"I'm eighteen and I like it",
928
01:21:51,824 --> 01:21:54,160
I was close enough to eighteen
to believe that.
929
01:21:55,494 --> 01:21:58,539
And then you go through this incredible hell
930
01:21:59,081 --> 01:22:03,628
to get back to the place where you're 18
and you love it again.
931
01:22:04,045 --> 01:22:07,506
And you can raise
the crutch up and go, "I won!"
932
01:26:33,647 --> 01:26:35,733
So that was Alice Cooper.
933
01:26:35,816 --> 01:26:37,151
You should see his sister,
934
01:26:37,234 --> 01:26:38,527
James Fenimore.
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