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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:03,036 --> 00:00:05,705 (glass shattering) 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 4 00:00:30,130 --> 00:00:31,307 - Is there anything else I can get you? 5 00:00:31,331 --> 00:00:33,800 - How 'bout another ginger ale? 6 00:00:33,833 --> 00:00:35,845 - You sure you wouldn't like something a little stiffer? 7 00:00:35,869 --> 00:00:38,038 - I got something stiffer. 8 00:00:41,041 --> 00:00:42,509 - Oh, you're here already. 9 00:00:42,542 --> 00:00:44,320 - Well I can see what kind of workout this is gonna be. 10 00:00:44,344 --> 00:00:46,980 - I was just getting warmed up. 11 00:00:50,083 --> 00:00:51,751 - Hi Kurt, I'm home. 12 00:00:53,019 --> 00:00:56,089 (upbeat synth music) 13 00:01:04,898 --> 00:01:06,375 - [Voiceover] Pornography's a very important part 14 00:01:06,399 --> 00:01:09,068 of the gay culture, and Chuck was a very important part 15 00:01:09,069 --> 00:01:10,670 of pornography. 16 00:01:10,704 --> 00:01:12,372 He changed people's lives. 17 00:01:12,405 --> 00:01:14,517 - [Voiceover] What he did liberated many, many people, 18 00:01:14,541 --> 00:01:18,345 at least on a very basic, primal level, 19 00:01:18,378 --> 00:01:20,714 to show that it was okay. 20 00:01:20,747 --> 00:01:22,315 - [Voiceover] He came from Indiana. 21 00:01:22,349 --> 00:01:24,384 He knew exactly what the story was. 22 00:01:24,417 --> 00:01:27,387 He understood what people wanted to see. 23 00:01:27,420 --> 00:01:30,090 He understood what they wanted to experience. 24 00:01:30,123 --> 00:01:34,427 He understood what Middle America was missing. 25 00:01:34,461 --> 00:01:38,264 - [Voiceover] Dealing in the gay porno world, 26 00:01:38,298 --> 00:01:41,167 you deal with people they have no concept 27 00:01:41,201 --> 00:01:43,703 of being suave and debonair. 28 00:01:43,737 --> 00:01:45,872 That's where Chuck Holmes was different. 29 00:01:45,905 --> 00:01:48,174 He seemed to have a class about him 30 00:01:48,208 --> 00:01:49,943 that nobody else did. 31 00:01:51,411 --> 00:01:54,748 - [Voiceover] He was very concerned about social change 32 00:01:54,781 --> 00:01:58,385 for gay people and understood that he could play 33 00:01:58,418 --> 00:01:59,586 a unique role. 34 00:02:00,754 --> 00:02:02,555 - [Voiceover] He felt that he had to give back 35 00:02:02,589 --> 00:02:05,492 or he would lose everything he had. 36 00:02:06,926 --> 00:02:08,738 - [Voiceover] No one mind getting Chuck's money 37 00:02:08,762 --> 00:02:11,064 but some of them minded where it came from. 38 00:02:11,097 --> 00:02:14,934 He's a pornographer, we don't want that porno dirty money. 39 00:02:14,968 --> 00:02:16,870 - [Voiceover] I think of Chuck Holmes very much 40 00:02:16,903 --> 00:02:19,739 in the same way I look at Hugh Hefner. 41 00:02:19,773 --> 00:02:23,910 Someone who admired beauty and wanted to share that beauty 42 00:02:23,943 --> 00:02:24,944 with others. 43 00:02:27,414 --> 00:02:29,582 - In the beginning, Chuck Holmes 44 00:02:29,616 --> 00:02:32,619 was a great collector of porn. 45 00:02:32,652 --> 00:02:37,157 That's how it all started, eight millimeter loops. 46 00:02:37,190 --> 00:02:39,092 - It was extremely closeted 47 00:02:39,125 --> 00:02:41,227 and they would have these little parties, 48 00:02:41,261 --> 00:02:44,731 like a Tupperware party, in a Holiday Inn hotel room, 49 00:02:44,764 --> 00:02:46,132 the customers would come. 50 00:02:46,166 --> 00:02:49,969 They would buy them directly while they were there. 51 00:02:50,003 --> 00:02:51,938 - [Voiceover] I was probably one of the first 52 00:02:51,971 --> 00:02:53,406 in the business. 53 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:55,608 I was traveling the country, checking into hotels, 54 00:02:55,642 --> 00:02:57,944 meeting interested customers, 55 00:02:57,977 --> 00:03:00,780 and in one of my encounters back in Cincinnati, Ohio 56 00:03:00,814 --> 00:03:02,047 I met Chuck. 57 00:03:02,048 --> 00:03:03,659 He's, "Oh, I want to get into that business, 58 00:03:03,683 --> 00:03:06,119 "oh I'd love to get into that business." 59 00:03:06,152 --> 00:03:08,321 I said, "No, I don't think you really want to deal with 60 00:03:08,355 --> 00:03:10,824 "the feds and postal inspectors 61 00:03:10,857 --> 00:03:13,058 "and all the other shit involved." 62 00:03:13,059 --> 00:03:14,661 "Oh, I want to get into that business 63 00:03:14,694 --> 00:03:16,629 "and I want to make movies." 64 00:03:16,663 --> 00:03:19,799 Six or seven months later he moved out to San Francisco. 65 00:03:19,833 --> 00:03:22,335 (disco music) 66 00:03:39,686 --> 00:03:42,088 (funk music) 67 00:03:49,596 --> 00:03:54,167 โ™ช Taking a walk down to the bookstore 68 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:58,705 โ™ช On a lonely boring day for me 69 00:03:58,738 --> 00:04:03,476 โ™ช Can't wait to see my latest boyfriend 70 00:04:03,510 --> 00:04:07,414 โ™ช Under the covers waiting to be free โ™ช 71 00:04:07,447 --> 00:04:09,816 - Chuck came out of the closet really fast. 72 00:04:09,849 --> 00:04:11,360 I don't think everybody understood like, 73 00:04:11,384 --> 00:04:13,520 come to San Francisco to come out, 74 00:04:13,553 --> 00:04:16,890 but it was quite obvious and that many, many people 75 00:04:16,923 --> 00:04:19,859 were uprooting and coming west and landing here. 76 00:04:19,893 --> 00:04:21,895 Sexually it was on fire. 77 00:04:23,363 --> 00:04:25,174 I was coming from the Deep South and I was just 78 00:04:25,198 --> 00:04:28,101 blown away by how comfortable people were, 79 00:04:28,134 --> 00:04:30,870 and how uninhibited they were about their sexuality. 80 00:04:30,904 --> 00:04:35,075 โ™ช Spending all of my cash on jars of Vaseline โ™ช 81 00:04:36,109 --> 00:04:37,553 - I think San Francisco when I came here 82 00:04:37,577 --> 00:04:39,078 is gayer than it is today. 83 00:04:39,079 --> 00:04:41,214 South of Market there was a bar called The Hungry Hole 84 00:04:41,247 --> 00:04:43,917 that was glory holes where you put your ass through. 85 00:04:43,950 --> 00:04:45,785 That's fairly radical. 86 00:04:47,153 --> 00:04:50,256 - We'd all come from very oppressed backgrounds. 87 00:04:50,290 --> 00:04:52,726 We went to San Francisco because we had had it 88 00:04:52,759 --> 00:04:55,195 with the rest of America. 89 00:04:55,228 --> 00:04:57,731 We wanted to be free, we wanted to have sex, 90 00:04:57,764 --> 00:04:59,733 we wanted to be gay, we wanted to be queer, 91 00:04:59,766 --> 00:05:01,110 we wanted to take a lot of drugs and party. 92 00:05:01,134 --> 00:05:02,902 And porn was part of that. 93 00:05:02,936 --> 00:05:04,270 Porn is freedom. 94 00:05:12,946 --> 00:05:15,548 - The Supreme Court ruled today that if anyone wants 95 00:05:15,582 --> 00:05:18,752 to read dirty books or look at dirty movies in his own home, 96 00:05:18,785 --> 00:05:22,122 he may do so and it's none of the law's business. 97 00:05:22,155 --> 00:05:23,923 The law still may regulate 98 00:05:23,957 --> 00:05:25,492 the spread of obscenity in public, 99 00:05:25,525 --> 00:05:27,794 but the court said a person has every right 100 00:05:27,827 --> 00:05:30,897 to satisfy his intellectual and emotional needs 101 00:05:30,930 --> 00:05:33,266 in the privacy of his own home, 102 00:05:33,299 --> 00:05:36,436 that the law has no business telling anyone alone at home 103 00:05:36,469 --> 00:05:40,840 what books he may read or what films he may look at. 104 00:05:40,874 --> 00:05:43,109 - [Voiceover] Depending upon one's own moral posture, 105 00:05:43,143 --> 00:05:44,577 this film festival 106 00:05:44,611 --> 00:05:46,746 means either more tarnish on the city's growing 107 00:05:46,780 --> 00:05:49,649 reputation as the smut capital of America, 108 00:05:49,683 --> 00:05:53,286 or a major break away from inartistic pornography. 109 00:05:53,319 --> 00:05:55,422 It would be difficult for anyone to deny, however, 110 00:05:55,455 --> 00:05:57,757 that erotica by whatever definition 111 00:05:57,791 --> 00:06:01,628 has become a commercial as well as cultural phenomenon. 112 00:06:01,661 --> 00:06:05,031 Mike Lee, Eyewitness News San Francisco. 113 00:06:06,232 --> 00:06:09,469 - I came to San Francisco in '72. 114 00:06:09,502 --> 00:06:11,771 I went to the BAR which was relatively new 115 00:06:11,805 --> 00:06:14,039 and I kind of admired the fact that a gay paper 116 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:15,675 was being published. 117 00:06:15,709 --> 00:06:17,944 I walked in the door and said, "I'm a writer," 118 00:06:18,044 --> 00:06:21,181 and the editor, Paul Lorch, said, "What do you write?" 119 00:06:21,214 --> 00:06:23,149 And I said, "Theater reviews with an emphasis 120 00:06:23,183 --> 00:06:24,517 "on musical theater." 121 00:06:24,551 --> 00:06:26,619 And he said, "I've got somebody writing those, 122 00:06:26,653 --> 00:06:29,389 "would you like to review porn?" 123 00:06:29,422 --> 00:06:32,058 (sultry music) 124 00:06:38,531 --> 00:06:42,067 It was his idea that it was time to be legitimizing 125 00:06:42,068 --> 00:06:46,072 gay men's sexuality in its on-screen depictions. 126 00:06:48,208 --> 00:06:50,343 - The big innovation of the sexual revolution period 127 00:06:50,377 --> 00:06:53,179 was theatrical, in other words, in mainstream theaters, 128 00:06:53,213 --> 00:06:56,483 in movie theaters, or small storefront theaters. 129 00:06:56,516 --> 00:06:59,085 The other way, and this was more traditional 130 00:06:59,119 --> 00:07:01,254 and it goes back to the beefcake photographers, 131 00:07:01,287 --> 00:07:03,265 there was a mail-order business and this was really 132 00:07:03,289 --> 00:07:04,391 the main way. 133 00:07:06,693 --> 00:07:10,864 - Mail order was selling directly through ads in magazines. 134 00:07:13,133 --> 00:07:14,934 They would send in cash many times, 135 00:07:15,035 --> 00:07:17,504 because they were afraid to even have a record 136 00:07:17,537 --> 00:07:21,708 as far as a personal check paying for adult material. 137 00:07:23,143 --> 00:07:25,121 - [Voiceover] Loops were the kind of short little scenes 138 00:07:25,145 --> 00:07:27,047 shown in peep shows. 139 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:29,049 That was in fact the form that was used 140 00:07:29,082 --> 00:07:31,751 in mail-order businesses. 141 00:07:31,785 --> 00:07:34,454 - [Voiceover] It was a small little reel of film, 142 00:07:34,487 --> 00:07:38,058 not well focused and not well lit, body hair 143 00:07:38,091 --> 00:07:41,928 was not manicured, dirty feet, they were just thrilled 144 00:07:41,961 --> 00:07:44,531 to get anything that was available out there. 145 00:07:44,564 --> 00:07:46,900 There just wasn't that much product. 146 00:07:46,933 --> 00:07:48,911 - [Voiceover] They were definitely headache-inducing 147 00:07:48,935 --> 00:07:51,538 at all times because the camerawork was bad, 148 00:07:51,571 --> 00:07:54,107 the lighting was worse, the editing was atrocious. 149 00:07:54,140 --> 00:07:57,310 And the soundtracks just were painful. 150 00:07:58,511 --> 00:08:01,314 You really had to want to see men having sex. 151 00:08:01,348 --> 00:08:03,426 - [Voiceover] This is by some the gay technique called 152 00:08:03,450 --> 00:08:05,118 LIA for Legs In Air. 153 00:08:06,486 --> 00:08:08,722 Frequently meaning simply that an individual homosexual 154 00:08:08,755 --> 00:08:10,657 enjoys such activity. 155 00:08:10,690 --> 00:08:14,060 But where the name came from is clear. 156 00:08:14,094 --> 00:08:15,395 - Chuck didn't like dirty feet. 157 00:08:15,428 --> 00:08:16,605 That's why he got in business, 158 00:08:16,629 --> 00:08:18,098 that's what he always told me. 159 00:08:18,131 --> 00:08:19,275 Says, "I used to watch porn movies and see those 160 00:08:19,299 --> 00:08:21,033 "goddamn models and they'd have dirty feet. 161 00:08:21,034 --> 00:08:22,268 "I said, I gotta do it better. 162 00:08:22,302 --> 00:08:24,337 "There's not gonna be a model with a dirty foot 163 00:08:24,371 --> 00:08:27,374 "within 10 miles of a Falcon movie." 164 00:08:29,476 --> 00:08:31,144 - A lot of them get into their industry 165 00:08:31,177 --> 00:08:34,614 because of their sexual impulse and they don't have 166 00:08:34,647 --> 00:08:38,284 much of a craft of an impulse towards the craft 167 00:08:38,318 --> 00:08:40,787 of the medium they've chosen. 168 00:08:41,955 --> 00:08:44,624 Chuck seems to have had a natural proclivity, 169 00:08:44,657 --> 00:08:47,460 something in him, when he found himself a gay filmmaker, 170 00:08:47,494 --> 00:08:49,729 he wasn't a bad one at all. 171 00:08:57,704 --> 00:09:01,141 - Chuck started Falcon in 1970 out of his home. 172 00:09:01,174 --> 00:09:03,152 It probably just seemed like the business to get into 173 00:09:03,176 --> 00:09:04,678 in the early days. 174 00:09:06,046 --> 00:09:07,514 It was becoming legal. 175 00:09:07,547 --> 00:09:10,483 When you're the first or one of the first to do something, 176 00:09:10,517 --> 00:09:12,552 you can make money on it. 177 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:16,356 - He had some friends who were in it, and he always said 178 00:09:16,389 --> 00:09:18,725 that, "I'm smarter than those guys are, 179 00:09:18,758 --> 00:09:20,627 "and they seem to be making a good living, 180 00:09:20,660 --> 00:09:23,028 "so I know I can do it." 181 00:09:23,029 --> 00:09:24,507 - [Voiceover] Chuck and I were very close. 182 00:09:24,531 --> 00:09:26,666 At that time I was not only shooting for myself, 183 00:09:26,700 --> 00:09:29,135 I was also shooting for Matt Sterling. 184 00:09:29,169 --> 00:09:33,540 We met and he picked my brain, he talked me into 185 00:09:33,573 --> 00:09:36,743 shooting all the earlier films. 186 00:09:36,776 --> 00:09:39,679 We both put each other on payroll, started Falcon. 187 00:09:39,713 --> 00:09:43,883 Right after Chuck and I had met and started things, 188 00:09:45,752 --> 00:09:48,421 Vaughn came into the picture. 189 00:09:48,455 --> 00:09:51,191 He was the person who went out and recruited 190 00:09:51,224 --> 00:09:53,193 the mailing lists. 191 00:09:53,226 --> 00:09:54,937 - [Voiceover] Just walking talking and one day 192 00:09:54,961 --> 00:09:56,505 he said, "What should we call the company?" 193 00:09:56,529 --> 00:09:58,198 I said, "I want a bird of prey." 194 00:09:58,231 --> 00:09:59,366 He said, "Eagle?" 195 00:09:59,399 --> 00:10:00,533 I said, "No." 196 00:10:00,567 --> 00:10:02,044 Then he said, "Falcon," I said, "That's it," 197 00:10:02,068 --> 00:10:03,403 and that's the way we named it. 198 00:10:03,436 --> 00:10:05,338 It was like just spitting in the street, 199 00:10:05,372 --> 00:10:08,274 it wasn't no big deal, it was just three or four words 200 00:10:08,308 --> 00:10:09,843 and it was named. 201 00:10:09,876 --> 00:10:11,787 I said well I'm gonna set you up, give you all the contacts, 202 00:10:11,811 --> 00:10:12,979 I want $5,000. 203 00:10:14,447 --> 00:10:16,416 And a little percentage of whatever. 204 00:10:16,449 --> 00:10:19,386 And we just started doing it. 205 00:10:19,419 --> 00:10:20,859 - [Voiceover] This is when it starts. 206 00:10:20,887 --> 00:10:22,631 When Chuck gets that mailing list is when you can first 207 00:10:22,655 --> 00:10:27,527 start calling the adult erotic gay industry an industry. 208 00:10:27,560 --> 00:10:30,063 - Chuck was the business brain behind everything. 209 00:10:30,096 --> 00:10:32,732 He was the financial whiz. 210 00:10:32,766 --> 00:10:36,036 John Travis was the camera man, he was the creative aspect 211 00:10:36,069 --> 00:10:37,237 of everything. 212 00:10:38,304 --> 00:10:40,640 He was the original pioneer. 213 00:10:41,808 --> 00:10:45,612 But Chuck knew how to capitalize off this. 214 00:10:45,645 --> 00:10:48,782 (upbeat funky music) 215 00:10:53,787 --> 00:10:55,121 - [Voiceover] Sex sells. 216 00:10:55,155 --> 00:10:57,490 It just blossomed overnight. 217 00:10:59,759 --> 00:11:01,761 We just shot whenever we wanted to. 218 00:11:01,795 --> 00:11:04,064 Was nothing planned or anything. 219 00:11:04,097 --> 00:11:06,433 We weren't making films so people say oh, 220 00:11:06,466 --> 00:11:08,735 they're having good sex or they're showing how 221 00:11:08,768 --> 00:11:10,837 sex should be done, we were making them 222 00:11:10,870 --> 00:11:13,139 because we enjoyed it, we loved it, 223 00:11:13,173 --> 00:11:15,809 and that's what we liked doing. 224 00:11:18,478 --> 00:11:19,779 - They're renegades, you know? 225 00:11:19,813 --> 00:11:21,681 They're out there just shooting sex, 226 00:11:21,715 --> 00:11:24,451 it's just it's real guys having real sex. 227 00:11:24,484 --> 00:11:26,786 Right on the side of the road, (laughs) 228 00:11:26,820 --> 00:11:29,889 in a boat, they're just going for it. 229 00:11:31,791 --> 00:11:35,094 - Back then there were like seven models. 230 00:11:35,095 --> 00:11:37,430 And every once in a while you'd find that eighth model 231 00:11:37,464 --> 00:11:39,432 walking on Santa Monica Boulevard. 232 00:11:39,466 --> 00:11:41,668 And they kinda all would swoop. 233 00:11:41,701 --> 00:11:44,337 - [Voiceover] They'd have another business 234 00:11:44,371 --> 00:11:46,272 and they would kinda attract models, 235 00:11:46,306 --> 00:11:47,974 like Vaughn had a company called Rugby. 236 00:11:48,008 --> 00:11:51,678 And it was a really slick little clothing store in Castro. 237 00:11:51,711 --> 00:11:54,681 They printed a really nice catalog. 238 00:11:54,714 --> 00:11:56,516 They'd take photographs of these guys. 239 00:11:56,549 --> 00:11:58,718 Dick Fisk comes to mind. 240 00:11:58,752 --> 00:12:01,187 But it was always like well, we have this other business too 241 00:12:01,221 --> 00:12:04,056 that you could make some more money. 242 00:12:04,057 --> 00:12:07,060 (upbeat funky music) 243 00:12:18,104 --> 00:12:19,348 - [Voiceover] I just went on the streets 244 00:12:19,372 --> 00:12:21,174 and picked them up in bars and cable cars 245 00:12:21,207 --> 00:12:24,344 and walking and baseball fields, I just went out 246 00:12:24,377 --> 00:12:25,845 and picked them up. 247 00:12:25,879 --> 00:12:27,914 Once you pick up a guy, you know, you never know 248 00:12:27,947 --> 00:12:29,149 what's gonna happen. 249 00:12:29,182 --> 00:12:31,851 Is it gonna be sex or is it gonna be no? 250 00:12:31,885 --> 00:12:34,154 Most time it was yes. 251 00:12:34,187 --> 00:12:37,691 And of course (mumbles) to Falcon. 252 00:12:37,724 --> 00:12:41,861 - Falcon consistently looked for better and better models, 253 00:12:41,895 --> 00:12:45,198 and they always used beautiful locations 254 00:12:45,231 --> 00:12:46,800 and outdoor scenes. 255 00:12:47,967 --> 00:12:50,603 It was the consistency that the customers 256 00:12:50,637 --> 00:12:54,341 knew if they were buying that brand 257 00:12:54,374 --> 00:12:58,178 they were gonna receive a wonderful product. 258 00:12:58,211 --> 00:13:02,382 It was a new era and Chuck really helped create that. 259 00:13:03,950 --> 00:13:06,419 - [Voiceover] Chuck Holmes may have had the largest sense 260 00:13:06,453 --> 00:13:09,456 of scope in the way in which he wanted his product 261 00:13:09,489 --> 00:13:11,324 to get out nationally. 262 00:13:13,059 --> 00:13:16,596 - [Voiceover] He was very smart at marketing. 263 00:13:16,629 --> 00:13:19,899 He knew what he liked, he knew what sold, 264 00:13:19,933 --> 00:13:23,103 he knew to continually build up his mail-order list 265 00:13:23,136 --> 00:13:25,605 and the name Falcon. 266 00:13:25,638 --> 00:13:27,616 - [Voiceover] Chuck was so competitive, he could move 267 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:30,076 at lightning speed, he could have an idea, 268 00:13:30,110 --> 00:13:32,545 he could have it laid out in two days, 269 00:13:32,579 --> 00:13:34,714 and he'd print it overnight and he'd be in the mail 270 00:13:34,748 --> 00:13:36,759 while his other friends were still thinking about it. 271 00:13:36,783 --> 00:13:39,252 - [Voiceover] Chuck was mass-production machinery. 272 00:13:39,285 --> 00:13:41,388 He wanted to make 'em and get 'em done, 273 00:13:41,421 --> 00:13:43,088 boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. 274 00:13:43,089 --> 00:13:45,725 Get 'em out there on the marketplace. 275 00:13:45,759 --> 00:13:47,761 - [Voiceover] Chuck in his early career 276 00:13:47,794 --> 00:13:51,965 was able to attain success because he was able to deliver 277 00:13:53,466 --> 00:13:57,937 in the brown paper wrapper the films that magazines, 278 00:13:57,971 --> 00:14:02,308 that gay America wanted to see in a form that they could 279 00:14:02,342 --> 00:14:04,044 actually accept it. 280 00:14:06,046 --> 00:14:10,283 It was sensual, it was sexy, it was not smutty, 281 00:14:10,316 --> 00:14:13,586 it was not low-life, and he was at the right place 282 00:14:13,620 --> 00:14:15,121 at the right time. 283 00:14:16,156 --> 00:14:18,658 (funky music) 284 00:14:20,126 --> 00:14:22,038 - [Voiceover] Chuck Holmes and Falcon Studio translated 285 00:14:22,062 --> 00:14:25,365 the sexual life of gay men in those large cities 286 00:14:25,398 --> 00:14:28,168 into kind of a historical record. 287 00:14:54,194 --> 00:14:55,962 - They were very post-Stonewall. 288 00:14:55,995 --> 00:14:59,165 They were reflecting new gay freedoms. 289 00:15:04,037 --> 00:15:08,475 The explosion of our lives and our visibility 290 00:15:08,508 --> 00:15:12,044 on the streets, in the world, in bars that no longer 291 00:15:12,045 --> 00:15:14,848 had their windows painted black. 292 00:15:14,881 --> 00:15:18,885 You know, and the movies quickly reflected this. 293 00:15:23,089 --> 00:15:26,326 The clone look, the lumberjack look, jeans, flannel shirts, 294 00:15:26,359 --> 00:15:28,261 mustaches, facial hair. 295 00:15:30,130 --> 00:15:32,532 It was the hippie look filtered through 296 00:15:32,565 --> 00:15:34,634 a notched-up masculinity. 297 00:15:41,074 --> 00:15:43,710 (doorbell ringing) 298 00:15:43,743 --> 00:15:46,680 - We had a rich lexicon of our culture, 299 00:15:46,713 --> 00:15:48,548 of the way we lived and what we wore 300 00:15:48,581 --> 00:15:51,384 and what we thought about and how we dressed and talked 301 00:15:51,418 --> 00:15:53,953 and filmmakers could put that out 302 00:15:53,987 --> 00:15:57,757 and kind of recreate or document our culture. 303 00:16:00,894 --> 00:16:03,028 - The porn stars were really heroes. 304 00:16:03,029 --> 00:16:05,899 At a time where it was necessarily not easy to be gay, 305 00:16:05,932 --> 00:16:08,244 and not easy to be out, not only were they like gay and out, 306 00:16:08,268 --> 00:16:10,270 but they were like really, like, 307 00:16:10,303 --> 00:16:12,706 putting it all on the table. 308 00:16:12,739 --> 00:16:14,741 You know, they were kind of going the extra mile 309 00:16:14,774 --> 00:16:15,942 for all of us. 310 00:16:17,777 --> 00:16:20,056 - [Voiceover] Pornography was still technically considered 311 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:22,582 a kind of prostitution, it was sex for money. 312 00:16:22,615 --> 00:16:24,784 Anybody who made pornography at this point in time 313 00:16:24,818 --> 00:16:28,455 had not only to worry about being arrested under 314 00:16:28,488 --> 00:16:31,925 prostitution laws, but still had to worry about obscenity, 315 00:16:31,958 --> 00:16:35,528 vice squads, it was a dangerous occupation. 316 00:16:37,797 --> 00:16:40,467 - Yesterday the Supreme Court authorized wider restrictions 317 00:16:40,500 --> 00:16:43,269 on the exhibition and sale of obscenity. 318 00:16:43,303 --> 00:16:46,072 Today a nationwide crackdown was underway. 319 00:16:46,106 --> 00:16:48,117 - [Voiceover] The explicit portrayal of sex activity 320 00:16:48,141 --> 00:16:50,744 has become a big, very profitable business. 321 00:16:50,777 --> 00:16:53,613 The vice squad goes after it all. 322 00:16:53,646 --> 00:16:54,757 - [Voiceover] What you have to understand 323 00:16:54,781 --> 00:16:56,783 is that it was extremely risky. 324 00:16:56,816 --> 00:17:00,086 I mean, people got busted for selling porn interstate 325 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:01,488 and went to jail. 326 00:17:04,124 --> 00:17:07,827 They all hid, you know, they all had noms de porn. 327 00:17:07,861 --> 00:17:10,697 At the first hint of a bust or any legal issue 328 00:17:10,730 --> 00:17:14,167 they'd all pick up their teepees and run. 329 00:17:15,335 --> 00:17:18,204 - [Voiceover] The entire industry was anonymous. 330 00:17:18,238 --> 00:17:20,106 Neither the performers nor filmmakers 331 00:17:20,140 --> 00:17:23,143 were credited or wanting to be known. 332 00:17:23,176 --> 00:17:24,654 - [Voiceover] You had to be very careful. 333 00:17:24,678 --> 00:17:26,055 No one knew where they were gonna shoot that day 334 00:17:26,079 --> 00:17:29,049 until they were going there, it was a secret. 335 00:17:29,082 --> 00:17:32,619 It was like the McCarthy hearing for making sex films. 336 00:17:32,652 --> 00:17:34,654 - They were after Chuck Holmes for a long time 337 00:17:34,688 --> 00:17:38,058 because he was noted for fisting movies. 338 00:17:39,492 --> 00:17:43,063 - He was indicted along with Matt Sterling. 339 00:17:49,536 --> 00:17:52,205 The trial was actually in Texas. 340 00:17:53,406 --> 00:17:55,975 Chuck says is that they showed, I believe it was 341 00:17:56,076 --> 00:17:57,744 an interracial scene. 342 00:18:01,448 --> 00:18:04,017 (funky music) 343 00:18:08,121 --> 00:18:11,157 The prosecutor said, "Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, 344 00:18:11,191 --> 00:18:13,360 "this could be your son!" 345 00:18:13,393 --> 00:18:17,931 And one of the women in the jury box threw up. 346 00:18:18,031 --> 00:18:21,901 Chuck hired Michael Kennedy and Tom Steele. 347 00:18:21,935 --> 00:18:25,438 These are people who defended the Chicago Seven. 348 00:18:25,472 --> 00:18:29,142 They went to the judge in chambers and said, 349 00:18:30,610 --> 00:18:33,380 "Judge, we feel like we're not getting a fair trial." 350 00:18:33,413 --> 00:18:34,948 And the judge said, "Fair trial? 351 00:18:35,048 --> 00:18:36,516 "Fair trial, Michael? 352 00:18:36,549 --> 00:18:38,551 "Hell, not too many years ago we would've taken 353 00:18:38,585 --> 00:18:42,188 "those old boys out behind the courthouse and hung 'em!" 354 00:18:42,222 --> 00:18:45,458 That's what the legal climate was like. 355 00:18:47,060 --> 00:18:49,562 Chuck delayed it, and he had it moved finally 356 00:18:49,596 --> 00:18:51,064 to San Francisco. 357 00:18:51,097 --> 00:18:54,200 Matt Sterling who wouldn't spend the money went to prison. 358 00:18:54,234 --> 00:18:57,470 Chuck was lucky, but he was also smart. 359 00:18:58,672 --> 00:19:00,216 - [Voiceover] I decided to discontinue shooting 360 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:03,008 for myself because I just didn't want to deal with 361 00:19:03,009 --> 00:19:06,780 the entanglement of the feds and postal inspectors. 362 00:19:06,813 --> 00:19:09,749 I let Chuck take the brunt. 363 00:19:09,783 --> 00:19:12,017 - People said look, I'm tired, he would be a buyer 364 00:19:12,018 --> 00:19:13,729 and buy these rights out, you know, it's like a card game, 365 00:19:13,753 --> 00:19:16,923 people folded, yeah, I'll buy you out. 366 00:19:18,324 --> 00:19:20,326 - [Voiceover] One reason why Chuck Holmes thrived 367 00:19:20,360 --> 00:19:23,463 the way he did was that he was able to avoid going to jail 368 00:19:23,496 --> 00:19:25,732 in a way that some of the other directors 369 00:19:25,765 --> 00:19:27,600 were not able to do. 370 00:19:27,634 --> 00:19:31,604 He basically built on that and acquired their materials. 371 00:19:31,638 --> 00:19:34,274 (upbeat music) 372 00:19:41,114 --> 00:19:42,682 - [Voiceover] Chuck loved to go skiing 373 00:19:42,716 --> 00:19:45,452 and it would cost a lot of money, so one year he said 374 00:19:45,485 --> 00:19:49,656 let's just shoot a couple scenes so we can write it off. 375 00:19:50,890 --> 00:19:52,435 - [Voiceover] On the Other Side of Aspen 376 00:19:52,459 --> 00:19:54,761 he was extremely involved, he wanted to get everybody 377 00:19:54,794 --> 00:19:57,130 outfitted, a whole lot of my ski clothing 378 00:19:57,163 --> 00:19:58,965 is in that original movie. 379 00:19:59,065 --> 00:20:00,867 In those days they probably had sex at night, 380 00:20:00,900 --> 00:20:02,002 I would imagine. 381 00:20:02,035 --> 00:20:04,671 Either as a group or in groups. 382 00:20:05,739 --> 00:20:07,116 - [Voiceover] They wanted to pull together 383 00:20:07,140 --> 00:20:11,811 three of the leading performers of each generation. 384 00:20:11,845 --> 00:20:14,314 Generations were very short at this point in time. 385 00:20:14,347 --> 00:20:17,283 Of the gay porn performers. 386 00:20:17,317 --> 00:20:20,620 They had Casey Donovan who was the very first famous 387 00:20:20,653 --> 00:20:23,156 gay porn star, they had Al Parker from the second 388 00:20:23,189 --> 00:20:28,028 generation, and then Dick Fisk from the third generation. 389 00:20:28,061 --> 00:20:30,830 - [Voiceover] He shot a few scenes and he brought it back, 390 00:20:30,864 --> 00:20:33,166 and he showed it to Matt Sterling and showed it to me, 391 00:20:33,199 --> 00:20:36,136 and we said hmm, we can make this into something. 392 00:20:36,169 --> 00:20:38,004 I said well, do we need an opening scene? 393 00:20:38,038 --> 00:20:39,873 And Matt Sterling wrote the whole thing 394 00:20:39,906 --> 00:20:42,075 and it just blew 'em away. 395 00:20:43,109 --> 00:20:44,511 - Well there you are. 396 00:20:44,544 --> 00:20:46,012 - Hi, how are you? 397 00:20:46,046 --> 00:20:47,080 Been running. 398 00:20:47,113 --> 00:20:49,315 - Wow, you're really sweating. 399 00:20:49,349 --> 00:20:50,750 - Yeah, a lot. 400 00:20:50,784 --> 00:20:52,018 - You have a good time? 401 00:20:52,052 --> 00:20:53,520 - Yeah, I had a great time. 402 00:20:53,553 --> 00:20:58,191 Been thinking about this little trip I took to Aspen. 403 00:20:58,224 --> 00:20:59,392 - At that point they realized 404 00:20:59,426 --> 00:21:01,066 that they had something a little different 405 00:21:01,094 --> 00:21:04,064 than they had intended and it was really almost 406 00:21:04,097 --> 00:21:05,532 a feature movie. 407 00:21:05,565 --> 00:21:08,702 Once Chuck Holmes realized this, he decided he was going to 408 00:21:08,735 --> 00:21:11,905 market it that way, and sent out a brochure, 409 00:21:11,938 --> 00:21:14,341 asked for the people on his mailing list 410 00:21:14,374 --> 00:21:16,776 to mail in reservations. 411 00:21:16,810 --> 00:21:18,712 It was such a huge success that everyone 412 00:21:18,745 --> 00:21:20,380 decided to imitate that. 413 00:21:20,413 --> 00:21:22,949 It even was more important than anyone realized 414 00:21:22,982 --> 00:21:27,086 at the time because once the video revolution occurred, 415 00:21:27,087 --> 00:21:29,589 what you sent home was not a clip, 416 00:21:29,622 --> 00:21:33,393 you sent out a movie with four scenes. 417 00:21:33,426 --> 00:21:37,096 It produced the biggest success of his career. 418 00:21:37,097 --> 00:21:40,233 (upbeat funky music) 419 00:22:12,665 --> 00:22:14,934 - [Voiceover] Falcon Video pack number three. 420 00:22:14,968 --> 00:22:16,746 - [Voiceover] When young businessman Craig Ryan 421 00:22:16,770 --> 00:22:18,614 realizes that the cabbie who picked him up at the airport 422 00:22:18,638 --> 00:22:21,341 is the incredible Al Parker, he gives into 423 00:22:21,374 --> 00:22:24,511 the bearded stud's blatant come on. 424 00:22:24,544 --> 00:22:26,680 Along a deserted country roadside, the two men 425 00:22:26,713 --> 00:22:28,948 get naked and nasty together. 426 00:22:28,982 --> 00:22:31,151 Even Parker's impressed when Ryan fucks himself 427 00:22:31,184 --> 00:22:33,186 with his own thick cock. 428 00:22:36,156 --> 00:22:37,967 - It almost happened overnight that all of a sudden 429 00:22:37,991 --> 00:22:39,793 video was the big thing. 430 00:22:39,826 --> 00:22:42,862 Everybody was buying machines, everybody was getting tapes, 431 00:22:42,896 --> 00:22:47,801 people were sharing tapes, and film just faded out. 432 00:22:47,834 --> 00:22:50,537 - Everything that was on eight millimeter 433 00:22:50,570 --> 00:22:53,973 got transferred over so we kept getting additional sales 434 00:22:54,007 --> 00:22:57,277 without having to manufacture anything new. 435 00:22:57,310 --> 00:23:00,714 - I was getting like FedEx packages every Monday morning 436 00:23:00,747 --> 00:23:03,149 like stuffed with pounds of cash! 437 00:23:03,183 --> 00:23:05,485 I couldn't believe how much money there was. 438 00:23:05,518 --> 00:23:07,052 I mean, it was wild. 439 00:23:07,053 --> 00:23:09,155 We got advance checks here and advance checks there, 440 00:23:09,189 --> 00:23:11,391 Chuck certainly took advantage of that, man. 441 00:23:11,424 --> 00:23:13,493 He was on the edge of that. 442 00:23:13,526 --> 00:23:15,729 - Before you even finish making your movie, 443 00:23:15,762 --> 00:23:20,166 you would have 10,000 units sold at $35 a pop. 444 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,502 Falcon was noted for having more than that, 445 00:23:22,535 --> 00:23:25,905 and his mail order was so incredible and vast. 446 00:23:25,939 --> 00:23:29,109 He'd make a fortune any movie he made. 447 00:23:32,078 --> 00:23:34,079 - [Voiceover] He didn't hit the door in a hotel 448 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:37,217 or on a cruise ship that he wasn't handing out $100 bills 449 00:23:37,250 --> 00:23:38,685 to the help. 450 00:23:38,718 --> 00:23:40,663 Bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, everybody. 451 00:23:40,687 --> 00:23:42,188 They knew he was coming. 452 00:23:42,222 --> 00:23:43,690 Hello Mr. Holmes. 453 00:23:45,091 --> 00:23:46,869 - One of the first things you did when you got with Chuck 454 00:23:46,893 --> 00:23:48,528 is you got a Rolex, okay. 455 00:23:48,561 --> 00:23:51,865 And he, Chuck gave me two Rolexes, a Tiffany watch, 456 00:23:51,898 --> 00:23:54,099 a lot of jewelry over the years. 457 00:23:54,100 --> 00:23:57,170 He started to refashion you in his image. 458 00:23:57,203 --> 00:24:00,040 I had a Rolls Royce that towed us to and from 459 00:24:00,073 --> 00:24:01,875 the clubs at night, and another one to bring 460 00:24:01,908 --> 00:24:05,578 other boys home or to follow us shopping. 461 00:24:05,612 --> 00:24:07,547 He told me, I'm gonna spoil you so rotten 462 00:24:07,580 --> 00:24:09,849 that no one else'll ever have you. 463 00:24:09,883 --> 00:24:12,085 And I was like, bring it. 464 00:24:12,118 --> 00:24:14,220 - [Voiceover] I had a lot of famous friends. 465 00:24:14,254 --> 00:24:16,890 And just with Chuck he really got a lot of kick out of it. 466 00:24:16,923 --> 00:24:19,893 Steve Robel of 54 and David Geffen. 467 00:24:21,061 --> 00:24:22,896 Hosten, I'd take him to Hosten's house. 468 00:24:22,929 --> 00:24:26,399 He got so much joy out of that type of stuff. 469 00:24:26,433 --> 00:24:31,104 Chuck wanted a new way of life, he wanted to be a big-shot. 470 00:24:31,137 --> 00:24:34,107 (calm funky music) 471 00:24:49,189 --> 00:24:51,257 - You take a look at the Falcon models 472 00:24:51,291 --> 00:24:55,095 of 1980, '81, '82, they're all picture perfect. 473 00:24:55,128 --> 00:24:59,666 Falcon had the most beautiful models there were. 474 00:24:59,699 --> 00:25:03,536 They wanted the most perfectly beautiful faces 475 00:25:05,839 --> 00:25:09,776 with the most beautiful bodies and the biggest dicks 476 00:25:09,809 --> 00:25:13,246 possible, and they wanted them to do everything. 477 00:25:13,279 --> 00:25:14,447 And then some. 478 00:25:15,849 --> 00:25:17,626 - Long ride, you guys, did you check that pothole? 479 00:25:17,650 --> 00:25:19,919 I just about busted my nuts coming over that. 480 00:25:19,953 --> 00:25:21,130 - Well I think we should go inside 481 00:25:21,154 --> 00:25:23,323 and get on with this initiation, okay? 482 00:25:23,356 --> 00:25:24,290 - Alright. 483 00:25:24,324 --> 00:25:25,792 - Yeah, let's go. 484 00:25:25,825 --> 00:25:27,470 - If you really go back to the first eight millimeter loops 485 00:25:27,494 --> 00:25:29,696 they're all hairy and with mustaches. 486 00:25:29,729 --> 00:25:34,467 In the '70s that was the image that reflected masculinity. 487 00:25:34,501 --> 00:25:38,638 I believe the story was Calvin Klein came out with his 488 00:25:38,672 --> 00:25:42,709 famous billboard underwear billboard I believe in 1979 489 00:25:42,742 --> 00:25:45,679 or 1980, and they were friends, 490 00:25:45,712 --> 00:25:48,148 and that whole image changed. 491 00:25:50,383 --> 00:25:53,353 It went from machismo to clean-cut. 492 00:25:54,854 --> 00:25:56,556 (sultry music) 493 00:25:56,589 --> 00:25:58,834 - [Voiceover] Calvin Klein had sent me a box of underwear, 494 00:25:58,858 --> 00:26:01,161 100 pair Calvin Klein underwear, 495 00:26:01,194 --> 00:26:03,029 and I liked the way the guys look in them, 496 00:26:03,063 --> 00:26:05,165 and I started using them. 497 00:26:06,866 --> 00:26:08,501 It was not planned, it was just something 498 00:26:08,535 --> 00:26:11,438 I liked the way it looked visually. 499 00:26:13,373 --> 00:26:15,875 - [Voiceover] Chuck was not a creative person at all, 500 00:26:15,909 --> 00:26:17,143 he was a business person. 501 00:26:17,177 --> 00:26:20,480 What Vaughn brought was the sheets and the art 502 00:26:20,513 --> 00:26:23,216 and the pictures and the orchids. 503 00:26:25,051 --> 00:26:26,386 Vaughn could sell it. 504 00:26:26,419 --> 00:26:28,321 I mean, when you talked to Vaughn he's like, 505 00:26:28,355 --> 00:26:30,256 "Oh girl, just imagine white crisp linens 506 00:26:30,290 --> 00:26:32,392 "on tan skin, ooh, girl." 507 00:26:35,195 --> 00:26:36,672 He'd sell to Chuck and Chuck could almost, 508 00:26:36,696 --> 00:26:38,698 he almost hypnotized Chuck by that, you know. 509 00:26:38,732 --> 00:26:41,534 "Ooh, girl, yeah, okay, do it." 510 00:26:41,568 --> 00:26:44,738 He'd convince him to spend the money for it. 511 00:26:44,771 --> 00:26:47,874 - [Voiceover] I picked the guys and I picked the clothes, 512 00:26:47,907 --> 00:26:51,111 cut their hair, plucked their eyebrows and shaved them. 513 00:26:51,144 --> 00:26:52,746 Scrubbed their feet and bleached 'em 514 00:26:52,779 --> 00:26:54,381 so they'd have nice white feet. 515 00:26:54,414 --> 00:26:56,249 Tanned them up and oiled them down 516 00:26:56,282 --> 00:26:58,351 and then Matt Sterling saw it, he said, 517 00:26:58,385 --> 00:27:02,122 "This is gonna change the way we shoot film." 518 00:27:04,057 --> 00:27:06,226 - The thing I remember about Chuck and his productions 519 00:27:06,259 --> 00:27:09,362 was he was really methodical about manufacturing 520 00:27:09,396 --> 00:27:11,031 the fantasy. 521 00:27:11,064 --> 00:27:13,633 And the guys had to be a certain kind of guy. 522 00:27:13,667 --> 00:27:17,537 They were always very white and very muscular 523 00:27:17,570 --> 00:27:18,905 and very tanned. 524 00:27:20,340 --> 00:27:22,909 - Right at this time the formula is gelling. 525 00:27:22,942 --> 00:27:25,645 Beautiful people in beautiful surrounding. 526 00:27:25,679 --> 00:27:27,914 The models are getting more attractive 527 00:27:27,947 --> 00:27:30,750 and there's some money rolling in where we can 528 00:27:30,784 --> 00:27:32,819 spend a little more money on the productions. 529 00:27:32,852 --> 00:27:36,890 They were all just beautiful people, the boy next door. 530 00:27:36,923 --> 00:27:39,392 There was no dog meat. 531 00:27:39,426 --> 00:27:40,827 (chuckles) 532 00:27:40,860 --> 00:27:45,231 - He is the first producer that wanted to depict 533 00:27:45,265 --> 00:27:47,767 good, clean, all-American fun. 534 00:27:50,103 --> 00:27:52,439 Collegiate-looking guys, brand new socks, 535 00:27:52,472 --> 00:27:54,174 pure white underwear. 536 00:27:56,509 --> 00:27:59,412 It was a new look that kinda brought the industry 537 00:27:59,446 --> 00:28:02,615 above-ground, and made it clean and fun 538 00:28:02,649 --> 00:28:04,384 and wholesome almost. 539 00:28:05,785 --> 00:28:07,263 - I think they were the first one ever 540 00:28:07,287 --> 00:28:10,590 that you knew that that was a class act, 541 00:28:10,623 --> 00:28:13,526 if you can say anything's a class act in pornography. 542 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:17,731 - The standards of everybody's movie were based on 543 00:28:19,165 --> 00:28:20,166 Falcon movies. 544 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:23,203 (upbeat rock music) 545 00:28:28,575 --> 00:28:32,044 โ™ช Well you know it takes a lot to win 546 00:28:32,045 --> 00:28:35,648 โ™ช Long nights spent at the gym 547 00:28:35,682 --> 00:28:39,352 โ™ช We're on the way with a winning streak 548 00:28:39,386 --> 00:28:43,556 โ™ช Working hard gonna reach our peak 549 00:28:43,590 --> 00:28:45,325 โ™ช Can't stop now 550 00:28:45,358 --> 00:28:48,194 โ™ช Can't slow down 551 00:28:50,096 --> 00:28:53,533 โ™ช Well it's spring training look out 552 00:28:53,566 --> 00:28:57,203 โ™ช We've got the will to win 553 00:28:57,237 --> 00:29:00,507 โ™ช Well it's spring training yeah now โ™ช 554 00:29:00,540 --> 00:29:03,843 - Hey, thank Phil for introducing me to Kathy last night. 555 00:29:03,877 --> 00:29:06,413 Man, she was a real hot piece of ass. 556 00:29:06,446 --> 00:29:08,515 - Over the half the guys in Phil's office 557 00:29:08,548 --> 00:29:11,351 have been trying to get it on with her. 558 00:29:11,384 --> 00:29:13,253 - I know she's hot for my dick. 559 00:29:13,286 --> 00:29:14,754 - I could understand why. 560 00:29:14,788 --> 00:29:17,190 I was just on my way into the sauna before you came over. 561 00:29:17,223 --> 00:29:18,391 Why don't you join me? 562 00:29:18,425 --> 00:29:20,694 You'd feel a hell of a lot better afterwards. 563 00:29:20,727 --> 00:29:23,530 - What the fuck, why not? 564 00:29:23,563 --> 00:29:24,563 Alright. 565 00:29:25,765 --> 00:29:27,076 - [Voiceover] Falcon was just a reflection of Chuck. 566 00:29:27,100 --> 00:29:30,070 His fetishes, his likes and dislikes with guys, 567 00:29:30,103 --> 00:29:34,040 how he wanted gay to be portrayed in his movies. 568 00:29:34,074 --> 00:29:36,609 Falcon was really just right out of Chuck's brain. 569 00:29:36,643 --> 00:29:37,744 It was Chuck. 570 00:29:39,579 --> 00:29:43,750 - He was very uber about masculinity and about boys 571 00:29:45,418 --> 00:29:49,089 and about men and about keeping things male. 572 00:29:52,425 --> 00:29:55,295 - He struggled with his being gay. 573 00:29:55,328 --> 00:29:58,465 Not so much being gay or saying I'm gay, 574 00:29:58,498 --> 00:30:02,602 but having a presence that was flamboyant 575 00:30:02,635 --> 00:30:04,771 beyond being appropriate. 576 00:30:06,106 --> 00:30:09,743 He never wore tore-off jeans, he never wore anything 577 00:30:09,776 --> 00:30:12,746 that would give away the sexuality. 578 00:30:14,781 --> 00:30:17,317 - You know, you really do have a hot body. 579 00:30:17,350 --> 00:30:19,552 - Thanks, I try to keep it that way. 580 00:30:19,586 --> 00:30:22,622 - Have you ever had a blowjob before? 581 00:30:24,657 --> 00:30:29,129 - Two chicks have done it before, really turns me on. 582 00:30:29,162 --> 00:30:32,132 - Have you ever had a guy blow you? 583 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,168 - No. 584 00:30:35,201 --> 00:30:36,670 Have you? 585 00:30:36,703 --> 00:30:37,871 - Well, maybe. 586 00:30:39,973 --> 00:30:40,974 A few times. 587 00:30:42,676 --> 00:30:44,944 Could I give you a blowjob? 588 00:30:46,112 --> 00:30:47,447 - Sure, why not? 589 00:30:49,115 --> 00:30:53,286 - The image of that masculine basic, plain, athletic man 590 00:30:55,522 --> 00:30:59,659 was purposely created to combat the image 591 00:30:59,693 --> 00:31:03,863 that society had of gay men in the '60s and the early '70s. 592 00:31:05,365 --> 00:31:07,834 He was taking that fringe element and dressing it up 593 00:31:07,867 --> 00:31:10,603 and cutting its hair and teaching it to speak well 594 00:31:10,637 --> 00:31:14,741 so that the general population would overlook the gayness 595 00:31:15,842 --> 00:31:18,478 and pay attention to the person. 596 00:31:18,511 --> 00:31:20,246 To assimilate easier. 597 00:31:21,848 --> 00:31:24,150 - They would get 'em out of the Midwest. 598 00:31:24,184 --> 00:31:26,986 They would go to great expense, do model searches 599 00:31:27,087 --> 00:31:30,123 through people all over the United States. 600 00:31:30,156 --> 00:31:32,292 The smaller the town, wherever. 601 00:31:32,325 --> 00:31:34,561 Fly 'em in, build 'em up. 602 00:31:34,594 --> 00:31:37,097 (funky music) 603 00:31:39,499 --> 00:31:42,335 - Falcon would put 'em through the car wash. 604 00:31:42,369 --> 00:31:45,672 The idea being that you take somebody 605 00:31:45,705 --> 00:31:50,143 and you beautify them and they work out and add 606 00:31:50,176 --> 00:31:53,747 a little toning the body, the makeup, 607 00:31:53,780 --> 00:31:56,016 and before you're done, you've got the perfect 608 00:31:56,116 --> 00:31:57,951 car-washed Falcon star. 609 00:31:59,953 --> 00:32:04,190 Seemed like in a lot of cases they all looked alike. 610 00:32:04,224 --> 00:32:07,260 - Kevin Williams, Kurt Marshall. 611 00:32:07,293 --> 00:32:09,896 That was the iconic look of Falcon. 612 00:32:09,929 --> 00:32:11,698 That was the Falcon look. 613 00:32:11,731 --> 00:32:14,601 Everybody was looking for the next beautiful blond. 614 00:32:14,634 --> 00:32:16,836 (phone ringing) 615 00:32:16,870 --> 00:32:17,870 - Hello? 616 00:32:18,972 --> 00:32:20,206 - Hey Brian. 617 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:21,408 Yeah, how's it going? 618 00:32:21,441 --> 00:32:22,742 What's going on? 619 00:32:22,776 --> 00:32:25,845 Hey how 'bout coming over to party? 620 00:32:25,879 --> 00:32:28,581 - Hey, my buddy Kurt's here with me. 621 00:32:28,615 --> 00:32:32,352 You've never met him before, but he's real hot. 622 00:32:32,385 --> 00:32:34,220 You'll like him for sure. 623 00:32:34,254 --> 00:32:37,357 Anyhow, we'll be right over. 624 00:32:37,390 --> 00:32:38,390 Bye. 625 00:32:42,295 --> 00:32:43,939 - They would strip all the color out of my hair 626 00:32:43,963 --> 00:32:46,132 and then just add a beige toner to it 627 00:32:46,166 --> 00:32:48,435 so it would basically be stripped to white 628 00:32:48,468 --> 00:32:51,638 and then we would just add a shade of ash to my hair. 629 00:32:51,671 --> 00:32:53,440 And it was different versions of that, 630 00:32:53,473 --> 00:32:54,984 flipped off to the side so it looked like 631 00:32:55,008 --> 00:32:56,443 I had this big mop. 632 00:32:56,476 --> 00:32:59,379 - I had to remain shaved and even though I made 633 00:32:59,412 --> 00:33:02,248 two or three movies a year I had to be shaven down, 634 00:33:02,282 --> 00:33:07,053 every day, and in San Franciso you try to get a date 635 00:33:07,087 --> 00:33:10,623 (laughs) with no hair on your body. 636 00:33:10,657 --> 00:33:12,759 (laughing) 637 00:33:12,792 --> 00:33:16,229 - They had this very lockstep, lockdown concept 638 00:33:16,262 --> 00:33:19,933 of what masculinity is, how it should be portrayed 639 00:33:19,966 --> 00:33:22,268 and how it should be packaged, you know, 640 00:33:22,302 --> 00:33:26,673 for poor Joe in Iowa that's gonna pay $69 for a VHS. 641 00:33:26,706 --> 00:33:28,808 - [Voiceover] You know if I would bring in 642 00:33:28,842 --> 00:33:31,678 a fabulous black model, a black model couldn't be 643 00:33:31,711 --> 00:33:33,146 just in the cast. 644 00:33:34,314 --> 00:33:38,418 There had to be a reason for the black model 645 00:33:38,451 --> 00:33:40,687 to be in the cast. 646 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,923 The black guys were never to get fucked. 647 00:33:43,957 --> 00:33:46,993 And the white boys were to never lick 648 00:33:47,861 --> 00:33:49,529 the black guy's ass. 649 00:33:51,097 --> 00:33:52,866 That's what he wanted. 650 00:33:56,002 --> 00:33:56,970 - Hey. 651 00:33:57,003 --> 00:33:57,971 - Hello. 652 00:33:58,004 --> 00:34:01,040 - What brings you over here? 653 00:34:01,041 --> 00:34:03,143 - (mumbles) 654 00:34:03,176 --> 00:34:04,678 - Wait, what do you mean? 655 00:34:04,711 --> 00:34:08,047 - Fuck my wife, fuck this tour, I wanna fuck you. 656 00:34:08,048 --> 00:34:10,150 - [Voiceover] How does that depiction of sexuality 657 00:34:10,183 --> 00:34:13,052 reflect gay men, what does it say about us, 658 00:34:13,053 --> 00:34:15,054 what does it say about the filmmaker? 659 00:34:15,055 --> 00:34:17,157 - I'm gonna fuck that lilywhite ass. 660 00:34:17,190 --> 00:34:19,125 - Hey come on man, don't hurt me! 661 00:34:19,159 --> 00:34:21,060 - This is a really personal medium. 662 00:34:21,061 --> 00:34:23,530 They were filming their sexual fantasies, 663 00:34:23,563 --> 00:34:25,065 filtered through what they thought 664 00:34:25,098 --> 00:34:29,202 the little old man in Peoria wanted to be seeing. 665 00:34:32,706 --> 00:34:35,342 - [Voiceover] What set Falcon apart was that very clean, 666 00:34:35,375 --> 00:34:38,378 squeaky clean college student image. 667 00:34:40,246 --> 00:34:44,417 That squeaky clean kid becomes Piggy when the doors close. 668 00:34:46,553 --> 00:34:50,724 And it's that juxtaposition that made Falcon work. 669 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:04,337 - Chuck didn't care about anything but sex. 670 00:35:04,371 --> 00:35:06,406 He didn't want to see kissing, 671 00:35:06,439 --> 00:35:08,541 god damnit, they're kissing too much. 672 00:35:08,575 --> 00:35:10,910 Make 'em fuck that hole and I'm gonna see it open up. 673 00:35:10,944 --> 00:35:13,213 God damnit, they're talking too much. 674 00:35:13,246 --> 00:35:15,181 Who cares about the goddamn seagulls 675 00:35:15,215 --> 00:35:17,384 on the fucking beach in the water? 676 00:35:17,417 --> 00:35:19,819 God damnit, this is bullshit. 677 00:35:21,221 --> 00:35:23,890 - Little woop-do-woo and gets you right to the action, 678 00:35:23,923 --> 00:35:26,960 'cause Falcon was very anal oriented. 679 00:35:27,060 --> 00:35:29,229 Finger that butt and slap that butt. 680 00:35:29,262 --> 00:35:31,931 A lot of butt, a lot of fucking. 681 00:35:32,932 --> 00:35:35,468 Chuck would love it if on film 682 00:35:35,502 --> 00:35:37,537 we could get some dildos going. 683 00:35:37,570 --> 00:35:39,739 Like someone started talking about these artistic cocks 684 00:35:39,773 --> 00:35:42,275 and he said no, they've got to look like aliens 685 00:35:42,308 --> 00:35:44,310 plunging, plunging. 686 00:35:44,344 --> 00:35:46,413 He was just ooh ooh ooh, honey. 687 00:35:46,446 --> 00:35:47,947 (laughs) 688 00:35:47,981 --> 00:35:49,315 Ooh. 689 00:35:49,349 --> 00:35:50,350 He loved it. 690 00:35:52,619 --> 00:35:55,422 - Chuck always said to me, he goes, "Honey, it'll stretch 691 00:35:55,455 --> 00:35:59,192 "a mile before it tears an inch, believe me." 692 00:36:00,927 --> 00:36:03,396 - [Voiceover] Chuck's surgeons would come to me 693 00:36:03,430 --> 00:36:06,166 and they'd say, "What's wrong with him?" 694 00:36:06,199 --> 00:36:08,268 He must have some psychological problem, 695 00:36:08,301 --> 00:36:09,779 he must have something going on with him 696 00:36:09,803 --> 00:36:11,471 that's really wrong. 697 00:36:12,839 --> 00:36:15,308 I looked at myself and I looked at Chuck, and I said, 698 00:36:15,342 --> 00:36:18,278 "There's nothing wrong with him, this guy's normal. 699 00:36:18,311 --> 00:36:20,513 "He's got wishes and dreams and aspirations 700 00:36:20,547 --> 00:36:24,718 "and all kinds of ideas that don't fall into the box." 701 00:36:26,286 --> 00:36:29,789 - Having sex was a political statement, 702 00:36:29,823 --> 00:36:31,791 because we were allowing ourselves the privilege 703 00:36:31,825 --> 00:36:34,861 of having sex unfettered by straight people's 704 00:36:34,894 --> 00:36:37,397 expectations of our sexuality. 705 00:36:38,898 --> 00:36:41,835 (doorbell ringing) 706 00:36:45,205 --> 00:36:47,874 (curious music) 707 00:37:05,158 --> 00:37:06,726 - Chuck breathed a lot, a lot of energy 708 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:08,695 into his relationships. 709 00:37:14,167 --> 00:37:18,338 When Chuck fell in love with someone, it was 110%. 710 00:37:23,743 --> 00:37:26,513 As generous as he was, he would not, 711 00:37:26,546 --> 00:37:29,516 he wasn't willing to allow the men in his lives 712 00:37:29,549 --> 00:37:32,552 a lot of room to express themselves. 713 00:37:36,556 --> 00:37:38,758 I had a complicated relationship with Chuck. 714 00:37:38,792 --> 00:37:42,295 He was like my lover brother father buddy. 715 00:37:47,067 --> 00:37:50,070 It was always extremely complicated. 716 00:37:53,139 --> 00:37:57,377 Everybody knows Chuck as an extremely sober individual, 717 00:37:57,410 --> 00:38:00,847 and who would campaign against alcohol. 718 00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,750 He didn't like drinking at all, much less drug use, 719 00:38:03,783 --> 00:38:06,453 but the truth of the matter is Chuck had quite a sexing 720 00:38:06,486 --> 00:38:11,291 and drug episode in his life that I had engaged in with him 721 00:38:11,324 --> 00:38:13,326 and it amplified itself. 722 00:38:14,761 --> 00:38:16,906 And so there were a few years there that I didn't see him 723 00:38:16,930 --> 00:38:18,031 all the time. 724 00:38:19,432 --> 00:38:21,544 - I'm having a wild party at my condo at the Aspen Club. 725 00:38:21,568 --> 00:38:23,470 Why don't you come on over? 726 00:38:23,503 --> 00:38:25,271 - Sounds pretty good. 727 00:38:28,274 --> 00:38:30,143 - Hey you guys, you won't believe this hot guy 728 00:38:30,176 --> 00:38:32,245 I ran into on the slopes this afternoon. 729 00:38:32,278 --> 00:38:34,047 I literally ran into him. 730 00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:36,916 He's back in the back room, he wants to come up. 731 00:38:36,950 --> 00:38:40,120 He's wearing a mask and you guys won't mind. 732 00:38:40,153 --> 00:38:41,121 My friend. 733 00:38:41,154 --> 00:38:42,122 - Hey Kurt. 734 00:38:42,155 --> 00:38:43,123 Hey everybody. 735 00:38:43,156 --> 00:38:44,424 Hey guys. 736 00:38:44,457 --> 00:38:46,426 - [All] Hey, how are you, how's it going? 737 00:38:46,459 --> 00:38:48,762 - [Voiceover] Every weekend they would have a sex party, 738 00:38:48,795 --> 00:38:50,263 I mean every weekend. 739 00:38:50,296 --> 00:38:51,931 And it would last until Monday. 740 00:38:51,965 --> 00:38:53,609 So I'd have to come drag him out of the bed 741 00:38:53,633 --> 00:38:56,302 on Monday morning to go to work. 742 00:38:59,472 --> 00:39:01,250 - [Voiceover] Chuck was lucky if he could bounce a check. 743 00:39:01,274 --> 00:39:03,309 He would spend all the he had coming in Falcon 744 00:39:03,343 --> 00:39:07,280 chasing boys and going to New York, and drugs, 745 00:39:07,313 --> 00:39:09,783 he spent up all the money, didn't have anything left. 746 00:39:09,816 --> 00:39:11,584 Had to make payroll. 747 00:39:11,618 --> 00:39:13,119 Had to pay the rent. 748 00:39:13,153 --> 00:39:17,757 Did he have to make a new film, there was no money. 749 00:39:17,791 --> 00:39:19,035 - [Voiceover] Falcon was in disarray. 750 00:39:19,059 --> 00:39:21,327 They had orders that were six months old. 751 00:39:21,361 --> 00:39:24,464 And at this time they were only making two or three 752 00:39:24,497 --> 00:39:25,665 movies a year. 753 00:39:28,034 --> 00:39:29,445 - [Voiceover] I just couldn't take it anymore, 754 00:39:29,469 --> 00:39:30,937 it was just too much. 755 00:39:31,037 --> 00:39:32,815 I was not going anywhere, and everything was just 756 00:39:32,839 --> 00:39:35,075 going deeper so I left him. 757 00:39:40,647 --> 00:39:45,151 - When I saw Chuck in the mid '80s, '84, '85, 758 00:39:45,185 --> 00:39:48,822 I could tell that by his general appearance 759 00:39:48,855 --> 00:39:50,924 that he was not too well. 760 00:39:55,095 --> 00:39:56,839 - We left this meeting, we went out to the car, 761 00:39:56,863 --> 00:39:59,733 we got in his Porsche and he said to me, he started crying. 762 00:39:59,766 --> 00:40:03,937 They had diagnosed him with KS, he had KS on his ankle. 763 00:40:08,074 --> 00:40:10,677 That's when I first became aware about his HIV status. 764 00:40:10,710 --> 00:40:14,214 I'm sure he was positive long before that. 765 00:40:15,615 --> 00:40:19,252 It was the first time that I had ever seen him frightened, 766 00:40:19,285 --> 00:40:22,856 because he wasn't that kind of person, 767 00:40:22,889 --> 00:40:26,359 but also that I really became aware that he was, you know, 768 00:40:26,393 --> 00:40:30,563 fallible, you know, and that he wasn't just a superhero. 769 00:40:50,583 --> 00:40:53,953 - I come from a generation that had a lot of sex 770 00:40:53,987 --> 00:40:57,924 in very casual and free ways all over the town, 771 00:40:59,926 --> 00:41:01,061 all the time. 772 00:41:02,062 --> 00:41:03,563 (disco music) 773 00:41:03,596 --> 00:41:07,267 Having to switch rapidly to a sex life 774 00:41:07,300 --> 00:41:11,071 that was prescribed in any way was difficult. 775 00:41:12,939 --> 00:41:15,141 We were used to being very freewheeling, 776 00:41:15,175 --> 00:41:17,744 that was part of who we were, that was part of our 777 00:41:17,777 --> 00:41:19,612 statement of identity. 778 00:41:21,481 --> 00:41:24,484 So it was hard to put the brakes on. 779 00:41:26,619 --> 00:41:30,090 - You could have heard a pin drop down the Castro. 780 00:41:30,123 --> 00:41:33,259 Everyone pretended that they were never found 781 00:41:33,293 --> 00:41:37,464 bottom-up on Dory Alley or any other seedy location. 782 00:41:38,998 --> 00:41:41,568 People fled for the closets, they all ran back 783 00:41:41,601 --> 00:41:44,904 into the closet, they ran back into straight relationships, 784 00:41:44,938 --> 00:41:48,274 everybody abandoned being out in public. 785 00:41:49,542 --> 00:41:51,444 This is how I saw it. 786 00:41:51,478 --> 00:41:53,780 - I think that when AIDS happened it was devastating 787 00:41:53,813 --> 00:41:55,448 to this business. 788 00:41:55,482 --> 00:41:57,951 I think it scared the shit out of everybody. 789 00:41:57,984 --> 00:42:00,587 When we found out how it was being produced 790 00:42:00,620 --> 00:42:03,055 and of course when we then found out all of our actors 791 00:42:03,056 --> 00:42:06,926 were dying, I mean I think it changed the industry a lot. 792 00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:11,598 Some people went out of business I think because of that. 793 00:42:11,631 --> 00:42:14,501 It pretty well got me where I didn't want to be 794 00:42:14,534 --> 00:42:16,469 in the business anymore. 795 00:42:16,503 --> 00:42:20,073 I didn't want to take somebody else's life. 796 00:42:23,843 --> 00:42:26,813 - Oh man, it was just a very scary time, 797 00:42:26,846 --> 00:42:30,316 and here I am still groveling down below at the camera 798 00:42:30,350 --> 00:42:34,688 and stuff dribbling on me, it was like (chuckles). 799 00:42:34,721 --> 00:42:36,389 - Chuck would never speak to it, 800 00:42:36,423 --> 00:42:38,825 like what was going on in our community 801 00:42:38,858 --> 00:42:40,493 in a general sort of way. 802 00:42:40,527 --> 00:42:41,895 He would do it very quietly. 803 00:42:41,928 --> 00:42:45,165 But if you got him on an incident like that poor guy 804 00:42:45,198 --> 00:42:48,100 whatever, Chuck would break down and cry. 805 00:42:48,101 --> 00:42:52,272 But he had kind of a rigid front around it otherwise. 806 00:42:54,674 --> 00:42:57,844 (typewriter clacking) 807 00:43:22,235 --> 00:43:25,338 He used nonoxynol-9, that spermicidal thing, 808 00:43:25,372 --> 00:43:27,907 and he would have all these notices, you know, 809 00:43:27,941 --> 00:43:29,552 precautions have been taken that maybe you don't see 810 00:43:29,576 --> 00:43:32,078 and occasionally in some of the movies you'd see it. 811 00:43:32,112 --> 00:43:33,747 You'd see somebody squirt something in, 812 00:43:33,780 --> 00:43:36,416 and in fact many people would always say, "What was that?" 813 00:43:36,449 --> 00:43:38,451 They'd think it was a bump or something, you know, 814 00:43:38,485 --> 00:43:39,953 a booty bump. 815 00:43:39,986 --> 00:43:42,722 - They were doing everything but using condoms. 816 00:43:42,756 --> 00:43:44,891 They were dancing around that issue 817 00:43:44,924 --> 00:43:48,595 by squirting nonoxynol-9 up the boys' butts. 818 00:43:50,096 --> 00:43:51,965 - [Voiceover] He could recite a lot of studies. 819 00:43:51,998 --> 00:43:54,234 It's 99% effective and blah blah blah. 820 00:43:54,267 --> 00:43:55,778 Come to find out years later it wasn't. 821 00:43:55,802 --> 00:43:58,104 Okay, 'cause what it did was it irritated or inflamed 822 00:43:58,138 --> 00:44:02,942 the lining and it could actually contribute to conversion. 823 00:44:03,043 --> 00:44:04,778 - I would talk to Chuck and I would say, 824 00:44:04,811 --> 00:44:07,714 "You need to use condoms, Chuck, you have to use condoms." 825 00:44:07,747 --> 00:44:09,249 - And remember that was one of the big 826 00:44:09,282 --> 00:44:10,826 bones of contention with Falcon was they were sort of 827 00:44:10,850 --> 00:44:13,753 the last ones the come on board with using a condom. 828 00:44:13,787 --> 00:44:15,822 - The feeling was that the consumer wouldn't buy 829 00:44:15,855 --> 00:44:18,525 a product that depicted condoms. 830 00:44:19,959 --> 00:44:23,096 It was performers actually who kind of insisted on it, 831 00:44:23,129 --> 00:44:25,598 but there was great resistance. 832 00:44:25,632 --> 00:44:28,301 As there was among the populace. 833 00:44:30,136 --> 00:44:31,580 - [Voiceover] I would hope that he would look around 834 00:44:31,604 --> 00:44:36,076 and say I can't promote this, I can't contribute 835 00:44:36,109 --> 00:44:39,779 the people looking at my movies and thinking 836 00:44:41,314 --> 00:44:43,183 it's okay to not use condoms. 837 00:44:43,216 --> 00:44:44,651 I did not let up. 838 00:44:47,620 --> 00:44:49,765 - [Voiceover] This was very serious, it was a health crisis 839 00:44:49,789 --> 00:44:53,126 so we talked about it all the time and I think 840 00:44:53,159 --> 00:44:55,161 the only time we really wouldn't talk about 841 00:44:55,195 --> 00:44:58,465 but when people started showing up very thin 842 00:44:58,498 --> 00:45:00,867 and I just said, you know what, I don't feel comfortable 843 00:45:00,900 --> 00:45:03,937 with this, I just can't do this anymore 844 00:45:04,037 --> 00:45:08,141 and I don't feel comfortable doing it anymore. 845 00:45:08,174 --> 00:45:09,676 - I had to argue with him about it. 846 00:45:09,709 --> 00:45:11,654 He said, "We can't go to condoms, we go to condoms, 847 00:45:11,678 --> 00:45:13,046 "we're gonna go out of business, 848 00:45:13,079 --> 00:45:14,547 "people aren't gonna buy it." 849 00:45:14,581 --> 00:45:16,559 I just couldn't convince him, so I knew what would do it. 850 00:45:16,583 --> 00:45:19,152 Because Chuck, for all his being the grand wizard 851 00:45:19,185 --> 00:45:21,321 was also a coward and I told him, I said, 852 00:45:21,354 --> 00:45:22,622 "You know what, honey?" 853 00:45:22,655 --> 00:45:23,833 I said, "Act Up's gonna come down here 854 00:45:23,857 --> 00:45:25,492 "and you're gonna come to work one day 855 00:45:25,525 --> 00:45:27,059 "and Act Up's gonna be standing outside that door, 856 00:45:27,060 --> 00:45:28,828 "and you're gonna get called out on this." 857 00:45:28,862 --> 00:45:32,064 And that, at that point, he decided 858 00:45:32,065 --> 00:45:34,367 we could start using condoms. 859 00:45:34,401 --> 00:45:36,903 (synth music) 860 00:45:41,775 --> 00:45:44,144 - [Voiceover] Coming through this AIDS epidemic 861 00:45:44,177 --> 00:45:46,746 I think a lot of people were afraid to have sex, 862 00:45:46,780 --> 00:45:50,917 even safer sex, and porn was one of their 863 00:45:50,950 --> 00:45:52,619 only sexual outlets. 864 00:45:55,622 --> 00:45:57,357 - You'd be amazed at the amount of people 865 00:45:57,390 --> 00:46:01,561 that have come to me, like, wow, you saved my life. 866 00:46:02,862 --> 00:46:05,865 I think porn was a safety mechanism. 867 00:46:07,567 --> 00:46:10,704 (upbeat synth music) 868 00:46:21,781 --> 00:46:23,383 - Business was growing. 869 00:46:23,416 --> 00:46:25,127 I told Chuck, I said, "We need to get people in here 870 00:46:25,151 --> 00:46:26,762 "full time, we need to get serious about this, 871 00:46:26,786 --> 00:46:30,557 "and stop being weekend porno hobbyists." 872 00:46:30,590 --> 00:46:32,559 I had brought professional filmmaking people, 873 00:46:32,592 --> 00:46:35,462 young kids who really had something to prove, 874 00:46:35,495 --> 00:46:37,297 we really had ideas. 875 00:46:37,330 --> 00:46:39,570 - I was Steven's assistant, Steven and I were very close, 876 00:46:39,599 --> 00:46:42,736 he was like my big brother, and we would literally 877 00:46:42,769 --> 00:46:44,637 pow-wow every day, ideas, scripts, 878 00:46:44,671 --> 00:46:48,575 I was constantly involved with his everyday, 879 00:46:48,608 --> 00:46:50,710 and I think Steven wanted me very close 880 00:46:50,744 --> 00:46:53,313 so that we could produce together. 881 00:46:53,346 --> 00:46:55,482 - [Voiceover] We added lines, the Mustang line, 882 00:46:55,515 --> 00:46:57,751 the Jocks line, the Falcon International line, 883 00:46:57,784 --> 00:46:58,985 a novelty line. 884 00:47:01,588 --> 00:47:03,823 - The duplication lab ran 'round the clock, 885 00:47:03,857 --> 00:47:06,459 24 hours a day, hundreds of titles were we duplicating 886 00:47:06,493 --> 00:47:08,128 in just one day. 887 00:47:08,161 --> 00:47:10,764 - It was at a time where people were watching more porn, 888 00:47:10,797 --> 00:47:14,334 we were making movies like a production line. 889 00:47:14,367 --> 00:47:16,803 We had just entered distribution nationally 890 00:47:16,836 --> 00:47:20,040 and internationally, it was exploding. 891 00:47:21,508 --> 00:47:24,177 We'd have $40,000 days. 892 00:47:24,210 --> 00:47:26,479 (applause) 893 00:47:39,526 --> 00:47:43,930 - [Voiceover] Chuck loved the gay porn world. 894 00:47:43,963 --> 00:47:47,467 He loved being the hefe of the porn world. 895 00:47:50,637 --> 00:47:52,615 - [Voiceover] I think he made a complete turnaround 896 00:47:52,639 --> 00:47:53,807 of his life. 897 00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:56,075 He had gotten sober and very serious about it, 898 00:47:56,076 --> 00:47:59,245 watching his weight, health conscious. 899 00:48:00,914 --> 00:48:03,350 - [Voiceover] He was the kind of image you would look up to. 900 00:48:03,383 --> 00:48:05,785 You could tell he was a very successful man, 901 00:48:05,819 --> 00:48:09,155 he carried himself well, he was real confident. 902 00:48:09,189 --> 00:48:10,657 He had whatever he wanted. 903 00:48:10,690 --> 00:48:12,225 (chuckles) 904 00:48:12,258 --> 00:48:14,828 I mean, he owned Falcon. 905 00:48:14,861 --> 00:48:16,496 - Incredibly lucky. 906 00:48:18,531 --> 00:48:22,635 I started in this business sorta accidentally in 1972, 907 00:48:22,669 --> 00:48:26,306 my friend Jack Nouveau, better known as Matt Sterling, 908 00:48:26,339 --> 00:48:28,575 and John Travis down there. 909 00:48:29,843 --> 00:48:33,346 We had just told (mumbles) to me. 910 00:48:33,380 --> 00:48:34,848 (laughs) 911 00:48:34,881 --> 00:48:37,350 Some of us go way back to the days of Peter and John 912 00:48:37,384 --> 00:48:40,086 when there were no snakes and reptiles on the earth. 913 00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:43,757 But be that as it may, we're all lucky to be here. 914 00:48:43,790 --> 00:48:47,527 Some of the best have gone on before us. 915 00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:48,738 I think we've got a few more licks in us 916 00:48:48,762 --> 00:48:50,864 and I want to thank you, thank you. 917 00:48:50,897 --> 00:48:54,067 (cheers and applause) 918 00:48:55,235 --> 00:48:57,604 - He taught me so much about what to be 919 00:48:57,637 --> 00:48:59,773 and what not to be. 920 00:48:59,806 --> 00:49:01,550 You know, he was a very lonely person, very lonely. 921 00:49:01,574 --> 00:49:03,076 And not satisfied. 922 00:49:06,012 --> 00:49:09,014 Early on I thought money brought satisfaction. 923 00:49:09,015 --> 00:49:11,351 Chuck taught me that that's not the case. 924 00:49:11,384 --> 00:49:15,055 He lived on the hill and he had all the money, 925 00:49:15,088 --> 00:49:17,590 and he was not a happy person. 926 00:49:18,792 --> 00:49:20,527 We would travel on planes or go places 927 00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:22,038 and people would say, "What do you do?" 928 00:49:22,062 --> 00:49:24,130 "Videotape replication." 929 00:49:24,164 --> 00:49:27,067 And for most people that would be like, okay, great, 930 00:49:27,100 --> 00:49:29,369 anyway, it's nice out isn't it. 931 00:49:29,402 --> 00:49:31,304 You know, it would keep 'em off track. 932 00:49:31,338 --> 00:49:33,139 And I would always question like, 933 00:49:33,173 --> 00:49:35,742 what is videotape replication, what is that? 934 00:49:35,775 --> 00:49:37,477 Making tapes. 935 00:49:37,510 --> 00:49:38,745 Yeah, but what kind of tapes? 936 00:49:38,778 --> 00:49:40,380 You know, someone's gonna ask you. 937 00:49:40,413 --> 00:49:42,082 Well they haven't yet Mary, so quiet. 938 00:49:42,115 --> 00:49:45,085 He was never really comfortable with what he chose 939 00:49:45,118 --> 00:49:46,286 as his career. 940 00:49:47,954 --> 00:49:49,289 - He had to test the water before 941 00:49:49,322 --> 00:49:51,257 you told somebody what you were doing. 942 00:49:51,291 --> 00:49:52,759 You know, it wasn't completely open. 943 00:49:52,792 --> 00:49:54,427 He used to tell his society friends, 944 00:49:54,461 --> 00:49:55,938 "I'm in the mail order business," and they'd say, "What?" 945 00:49:55,962 --> 00:49:58,231 and he'd say, "Well I sell, you know, tchotchkes 946 00:49:58,264 --> 00:50:00,567 and things like that," so people around town 947 00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:02,769 used to call him Crystal Holmes because 948 00:50:02,802 --> 00:50:04,971 she'd sell crystals and things like that. 949 00:50:05,005 --> 00:50:06,740 For a laugh, they all knew what he did. 950 00:50:06,773 --> 00:50:10,010 - I don't know if Chuck was proud to be a pornographer. 951 00:50:10,043 --> 00:50:12,579 I don't think he was embarrassed by it, 952 00:50:12,612 --> 00:50:16,016 it certainly afforded him a lucrative lifestyle. 953 00:50:16,049 --> 00:50:18,618 I don't think that he ever felt accepted by society 954 00:50:18,651 --> 00:50:22,789 because of society's negative feelings towards 955 00:50:22,822 --> 00:50:24,324 the porn industry. 956 00:50:32,165 --> 00:50:33,809 - [Voiceover] He would come through the main entrance 957 00:50:33,833 --> 00:50:35,635 and all the officers were lined up. 958 00:50:35,669 --> 00:50:37,704 It was like an ice storm came through 959 00:50:37,737 --> 00:50:39,506 because each person would be like 960 00:50:39,539 --> 00:50:41,651 doing something personal and then as soon as they saw him, 961 00:50:41,675 --> 00:50:43,410 oh, hello Mr. Holmes. 962 00:50:45,345 --> 00:50:48,882 - [Voiceover] He really, really cared about 963 00:50:48,915 --> 00:50:51,651 everybody that worked for him, even though he was a tyrant 964 00:50:51,685 --> 00:50:53,987 at the office and people were afraid of him. 965 00:50:54,020 --> 00:50:56,456 He would storm around that office. 966 00:50:56,489 --> 00:50:59,325 If he was in a bad mood and he came into that office, 967 00:50:59,359 --> 00:51:03,530 a paperclip on the floor could send him into a flying rage 968 00:51:07,167 --> 00:51:11,071 of monumental proportions that shook the ground 969 00:51:12,105 --> 00:51:14,107 that that office was on. 970 00:51:15,742 --> 00:51:16,910 - Guards, him. 971 00:51:18,878 --> 00:51:20,213 - Oh no, no, no! 972 00:51:36,629 --> 00:51:40,800 - He had that type A personality and he never felt 973 00:51:42,902 --> 00:51:44,904 like he achieved enough. 974 00:51:48,141 --> 00:51:51,110 - [Voiceover] We had gone to see Eva Peron's tomb. 975 00:51:51,111 --> 00:51:53,546 Chuck came home and she's gonna build a mausoleum. 976 00:51:53,580 --> 00:51:55,849 Chuck Holmes is gonna build a mausoleum for himself, 977 00:51:55,882 --> 00:51:57,417 and I said, "Why? 978 00:51:57,450 --> 00:51:59,219 "Who's gonna come see it?" 979 00:51:59,252 --> 00:52:02,355 And we had this discussion he says oh I'm gonna build 980 00:52:02,389 --> 00:52:05,725 ooh, green marble and ooh, ooh, ah, I'd say, 981 00:52:05,759 --> 00:52:07,360 "No one's gonna come to see it, 982 00:52:07,394 --> 00:52:09,729 "you're gonna be dead and gone, except for a handful of us. 983 00:52:09,763 --> 00:52:11,531 "We don't have kids." 984 00:52:11,564 --> 00:52:15,735 He turned the corner later on and realized that he could 985 00:52:15,769 --> 00:52:20,473 donate money and that would give him a living legacy. 986 00:52:20,507 --> 00:52:23,443 It was very important to him that people remember him. 987 00:52:23,476 --> 00:52:26,079 (upbeat music) 988 00:52:44,431 --> 00:52:47,334 (whistles blowing) 989 00:52:50,670 --> 00:52:53,473 (cheering) 990 00:52:53,506 --> 00:52:56,910 He got involved in politics first and foremost 991 00:52:56,943 --> 00:52:59,946 because he needed to protect his business. 992 00:53:00,046 --> 00:53:02,649 He was really politically motivated around 993 00:53:02,682 --> 00:53:05,518 we couldn't have these goddamn republicans in office 994 00:53:05,552 --> 00:53:08,088 because I'm gonna go to jail. 995 00:53:08,121 --> 00:53:10,657 (cheering) 996 00:53:10,690 --> 00:53:12,859 I think I saw everything change, 997 00:53:12,892 --> 00:53:14,661 and I think it changed for many of us 998 00:53:14,694 --> 00:53:18,865 was the promise of Bill Clinton becoming president. 999 00:53:20,300 --> 00:53:22,268 We needed a president who would speak about AIDS, 1000 00:53:22,302 --> 00:53:24,971 who would say the word AIDS, who would maybe come 1001 00:53:25,071 --> 00:53:28,208 to our defense and perhaps our rescue. 1002 00:53:28,241 --> 00:53:32,412 That's when I saw him really begin to contribute heavily. 1003 00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:37,350 He really was very, very shy about getting into it, 1004 00:53:37,384 --> 00:53:41,154 and when he met Vincent Fria and (mumbles) 1005 00:53:41,187 --> 00:53:43,523 and a couple other people, they encouraged him, 1006 00:53:43,556 --> 00:53:45,334 saying your money's as good as anybody else's here, 1007 00:53:45,358 --> 00:53:46,526 and we need you. 1008 00:53:46,559 --> 00:53:47,837 You're a good leader, you're a good organizer, 1009 00:53:47,861 --> 00:53:50,196 you can talk people into things that nobody else 1010 00:53:50,230 --> 00:53:52,332 can talk 'em into, you can get people on board, 1011 00:53:52,365 --> 00:53:53,867 we need you. 1012 00:53:53,900 --> 00:53:57,170 And when he finally got that message, my God, it was on. 1013 00:53:57,203 --> 00:53:59,104 Because he had self-doubt around it. 1014 00:53:59,105 --> 00:54:00,840 I think that he was always frightened by, 1015 00:54:00,874 --> 00:54:03,176 or he was frightened by that someone was gonna 1016 00:54:03,209 --> 00:54:04,611 return his check. 1017 00:54:05,945 --> 00:54:08,148 - I'm Chuck Holmes, I'm from San Francisco, 1018 00:54:08,181 --> 00:54:09,683 and I'm glad to be here in Washington. 1019 00:54:09,716 --> 00:54:11,494 This is the first time I've ever marched for a cause 1020 00:54:11,518 --> 00:54:14,220 in my life, I waited a long time, 48 years almost 1021 00:54:14,254 --> 00:54:16,756 and I'm here and I'm glad to be here. 1022 00:54:16,790 --> 00:54:19,159 The spirit's very high, everyone's very motivated 1023 00:54:19,192 --> 00:54:21,361 and yet very civilized. 1024 00:54:21,394 --> 00:54:24,197 I know those people, it's not rowdy, it's very safe. 1025 00:54:24,230 --> 00:54:26,499 We're just glad to be here. 1026 00:54:26,533 --> 00:54:29,602 I hope America wakes up and gets our message. 1027 00:54:29,636 --> 00:54:33,873 - He was part of an emerging, very elite, 1028 00:54:33,907 --> 00:54:37,277 successful group of gays that had taken it 1029 00:54:37,310 --> 00:54:40,880 upon themselves to really immerse themselves in politics 1030 00:54:40,914 --> 00:54:43,116 and use their power and wherewithal 1031 00:54:43,149 --> 00:54:46,653 to advance gay candidacies and gay issues. 1032 00:54:48,088 --> 00:54:51,257 - He was one of those guys that just melted into the crowd, 1033 00:54:51,291 --> 00:54:54,427 took everyone in, made 'em feel welcome. 1034 00:54:54,461 --> 00:54:57,096 He could sit next to anyone and have a conversation 1035 00:54:57,097 --> 00:55:01,067 about anything and really what he did was 1036 00:55:01,101 --> 00:55:04,804 never really the subject of the conversation. 1037 00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:09,542 - Chuck and I met in a very particular and singular 1038 00:55:09,576 --> 00:55:13,046 capacity, I as a volunteer fundraiser, 1039 00:55:13,079 --> 00:55:15,348 he as a very generous donor. 1040 00:55:16,282 --> 00:55:18,518 (applause) 1041 00:55:19,953 --> 00:55:22,255 Chuck's name was at the top of the list of donors 1042 00:55:22,288 --> 00:55:25,425 and so it was my job to, of course, get to know 1043 00:55:25,458 --> 00:55:29,062 who this individual was and make him my friend 1044 00:55:29,095 --> 00:55:33,099 so I could continue to encourage his significant 1045 00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:37,404 contribution to the Human Rights Campaign. 1046 00:55:37,437 --> 00:55:39,248 - [Voiceover] Chuck, how do you feel about this weekend? 1047 00:55:39,272 --> 00:55:40,907 - Very excited about the weekend, 1048 00:55:40,940 --> 00:55:43,243 it's a big part in our movement for our equal rights 1049 00:55:43,276 --> 00:55:45,812 for gays and lesbians, and I expect a million people 1050 00:55:45,845 --> 00:55:48,415 and hopefully we'll turn the tide for the country, 1051 00:55:48,448 --> 00:55:50,617 or begin to turn the tide in a big way. 1052 00:55:50,650 --> 00:55:52,128 - [Voiceover] You're a big supporter of 1053 00:55:52,152 --> 00:55:53,453 the Human Rights Campaign Fund? 1054 00:55:53,486 --> 00:55:54,587 - I do the best I can. 1055 00:55:54,621 --> 00:55:56,088 (laughing) 1056 00:55:56,089 --> 00:55:57,667 - [Voiceover] And who are your friends here? 1057 00:55:57,691 --> 00:56:00,627 - This is Steve (mumbles) co-chair of the board of directors 1058 00:56:00,660 --> 00:56:03,530 of the Human Rights Campaign Fund, Melinda Cuthbert, 1059 00:56:03,563 --> 00:56:05,441 board of governors of the Human Rights Campaign Fund, 1060 00:56:05,465 --> 00:56:07,634 and Tim McFeely our executive director. 1061 00:56:07,667 --> 00:56:10,770 - The depth of his generosity made him 1062 00:56:10,804 --> 00:56:12,505 a significant player. 1063 00:56:13,907 --> 00:56:16,543 Chuck was a strategic thinker, certainly had an opinion, 1064 00:56:16,576 --> 00:56:18,311 always had an opinion, 1065 00:56:18,345 --> 00:56:22,182 and was very welcome as a board member 1066 00:56:22,215 --> 00:56:24,384 of the board of directors. 1067 00:56:25,685 --> 00:56:27,487 - Chuck had the reaches to get to 1068 00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:29,322 the David Geffens of the world, 1069 00:56:29,356 --> 00:56:30,824 the Jim Hormels of the world. 1070 00:56:30,857 --> 00:56:33,326 He would pick up the phone and say hey Jim, it's Mary, 1071 00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:36,062 and that was Chuck's favorite thing 1072 00:56:36,096 --> 00:56:39,165 and he'd get $100,000 out of him like that. 1073 00:56:39,199 --> 00:56:40,367 (snaps) 1074 00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:43,703 - Chuck was a full-service activist. 1075 00:56:43,737 --> 00:56:45,905 He loved to go out and be the Great Gatsby 1076 00:56:45,939 --> 00:56:48,475 and have a good time and hit the town 1077 00:56:48,508 --> 00:56:50,210 and go to countless parties. 1078 00:56:50,243 --> 00:56:53,079 He at the very same time was working and being focused 1079 00:56:53,113 --> 00:56:56,683 and he understood the power he had 1080 00:56:56,716 --> 00:56:59,819 and he wanted to apply it in a concentrated way 1081 00:56:59,853 --> 00:57:02,088 for as long as he could. 1082 00:57:02,122 --> 00:57:05,425 That his talents and wherewithal would allow. 1083 00:57:05,458 --> 00:57:07,727 (applause) 1084 00:57:08,728 --> 00:57:10,764 - I'd watch him at these events, 1085 00:57:10,797 --> 00:57:13,066 I'd hear people like Angelo Alioto, 1086 00:57:13,099 --> 00:57:14,868 people who were running that year. 1087 00:57:14,901 --> 00:57:17,404 You gotta meet him, he's got money, he's got money. 1088 00:57:17,437 --> 00:57:18,714 Shake his hand, meet him, meet him. 1089 00:57:18,738 --> 00:57:20,473 God, crazy, you know. 1090 00:57:21,741 --> 00:57:24,044 And Chuck lived off that. 1091 00:57:24,077 --> 00:57:25,845 You know, he had made it. 1092 00:57:25,879 --> 00:57:29,249 It fortified whatever negative impression 1093 00:57:31,051 --> 00:57:35,054 people would ever think about his business. 1094 00:57:35,055 --> 00:57:38,191 Lot of the people that were his close friends 1095 00:57:38,224 --> 00:57:40,260 who were big in the political arena 1096 00:57:40,293 --> 00:57:42,562 were his good friends, he loved them a lot 1097 00:57:42,595 --> 00:57:44,440 and they loved him back, but there were a lot of 1098 00:57:44,464 --> 00:57:46,065 other people who were just hangers-on. 1099 00:57:46,066 --> 00:57:48,234 - A lot of the people at the Human Rights Campaign 1100 00:57:48,268 --> 00:57:50,203 and other organizations he belonged to 1101 00:57:50,236 --> 00:57:53,072 thought of him as just a person in porn 1102 00:57:53,073 --> 00:57:54,941 who made a lot of money. 1103 00:57:54,974 --> 00:57:56,643 (applause) 1104 00:57:56,676 --> 00:58:00,146 And I think Chuck always knew that part of the reason 1105 00:58:00,180 --> 00:58:05,051 these people enjoined him was partially the money. 1106 00:58:05,085 --> 00:58:07,454 - There wasn't so much an issue with HRC 1107 00:58:07,487 --> 00:58:09,222 and taking money from Chuck. 1108 00:58:09,255 --> 00:58:11,758 Where a lot of the issues came in were in the candidates 1109 00:58:11,791 --> 00:58:13,126 that we gave money to. 1110 00:58:13,159 --> 00:58:16,629 So some candidates chose not to accept funds 1111 00:58:16,663 --> 00:58:19,399 knowing that they were coming from Chuck Holmes 1112 00:58:19,432 --> 00:58:24,304 because of his relationship to the gay pornography industry. 1113 00:58:24,337 --> 00:58:26,639 One of the first openly lesbian candidates to run 1114 00:58:26,673 --> 00:58:28,775 for Congress was Tammy Baldwin, and I remember 1115 00:58:28,808 --> 00:58:31,043 a bunch of us in San Francisco putting together 1116 00:58:31,044 --> 00:58:34,046 and hosting an event for her, and his check wasn't accepted. 1117 00:58:34,047 --> 00:58:37,283 I mean, it was later given back. 1118 00:58:37,317 --> 00:58:39,619 (cheering) 1119 00:58:41,054 --> 00:58:42,798 - Let me say a few words about this tremendous victory 1120 00:58:42,822 --> 00:58:45,057 that's happening all across this country tonight. 1121 00:58:45,058 --> 00:58:47,827 Our community was there, this is the first time in history 1122 00:58:47,861 --> 00:58:49,829 that any presidential candidate 1123 00:58:49,863 --> 00:58:51,631 asked for our support openly. 1124 00:58:51,664 --> 00:58:53,099 They've always wanted our money, 1125 00:58:53,133 --> 00:58:55,201 they'd prefer it if it could pass sort of secretly 1126 00:58:55,235 --> 00:58:57,270 but Bill Clinton was proud to have our support. 1127 00:58:57,303 --> 00:58:59,639 Some of the most prominent people in our community 1128 00:58:59,673 --> 00:59:01,274 were there with Bill Clinton, 1129 00:59:01,307 --> 00:59:03,343 President-Elect Bill Clinton, excuse me. 1130 00:59:03,376 --> 00:59:05,045 (cheering) 1131 00:59:05,078 --> 00:59:08,114 - He gave major doning level to see Clinton 1132 00:59:08,148 --> 00:59:10,216 before he was elected and they wouldn't allow him in 1133 00:59:10,250 --> 00:59:11,885 because of what he does for a living. 1134 00:59:11,918 --> 00:59:14,019 And that crushed him, I mean, that really, 1135 00:59:14,020 --> 00:59:15,522 I remember he came home from that trip 1136 00:59:15,555 --> 00:59:17,524 and all he got was a little glass thing, 1137 00:59:17,557 --> 00:59:21,695 you know, and he goes, "Well, all I needed 1138 00:59:21,728 --> 00:59:23,129 "was a fucking glass trinket. 1139 00:59:23,163 --> 00:59:25,065 "I couldn't even see the goddamn president." 1140 00:59:25,098 --> 00:59:28,201 - I knew that some prune-faced people 1141 00:59:29,369 --> 00:59:32,839 might have thought twice about wanting to 1142 00:59:32,872 --> 00:59:37,043 connect up with Chuck, but it was so full of hypocrisy 1143 00:59:42,048 --> 00:59:44,084 because everyone I know has been very happy 1144 00:59:44,117 --> 00:59:47,420 to enjoy his hospitality and of course Chuck ran 1145 00:59:47,454 --> 00:59:49,889 a legal, legitimate business. 1146 00:59:52,225 --> 00:59:54,861 You know, the community slowly has gotten over 1147 00:59:54,894 --> 00:59:57,230 its own homophobia, perhaps. 1148 01:00:01,301 --> 01:00:03,636 - This is the 1998 gag reel. 1149 01:00:06,406 --> 01:00:09,442 This is one of the few shots where you get to see me. 1150 01:00:09,476 --> 01:00:13,847 The old man's been let out of the barn one more time. 1151 01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:17,083 No, I didn't want to tell them 1152 01:00:17,117 --> 01:00:20,053 that you've made my office into a mushroom growing ground. 1153 01:00:20,086 --> 01:00:22,555 Where they just keep me in a dark shed, 1154 01:00:22,589 --> 01:00:24,024 but that's the truth. 1155 01:00:24,057 --> 01:00:27,260 (dramatic piano music) 1156 01:00:45,779 --> 01:00:47,414 - Chuck worked, he was a workaholic, 1157 01:00:47,447 --> 01:00:49,749 he worked all the time, he would say, "I'm ram tough, 1158 01:00:49,783 --> 01:00:52,085 "I'm the original ram tough model and they broke the mold 1159 01:00:52,118 --> 01:00:54,054 "after I came along." 1160 01:00:54,087 --> 01:00:55,755 And it was true in many ways. 1161 01:00:55,789 --> 01:00:58,291 He was not, he was not sickly. 1162 01:00:59,459 --> 01:01:01,828 Now this is somebody who had early on 1163 01:01:01,861 --> 01:01:05,064 a lot of health issues, he was diabetic, 1164 01:01:05,065 --> 01:01:07,734 he had high blood pressure, HIV, he had a liver that, 1165 01:01:07,767 --> 01:01:10,303 in the end is what failed him. 1166 01:01:11,638 --> 01:01:14,941 - A lot of the early HIV therapies were very, very toxic 1167 01:01:14,974 --> 01:01:19,145 and had the possibility and probability of liver disease. 1168 01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:22,816 I think he was run from pillar to post 1169 01:01:22,849 --> 01:01:25,452 with all the magical therapies. 1170 01:01:26,820 --> 01:01:30,190 His anxiety and his basic personality forced him 1171 01:01:30,223 --> 01:01:33,993 to go to that leading edge if you will. 1172 01:01:34,094 --> 01:01:37,597 People with liver disease tend to ride along for a while 1173 01:01:37,630 --> 01:01:39,799 and then just plummet. 1174 01:01:39,833 --> 01:01:42,869 - He had chronic hiccups, all day, all night. 1175 01:01:42,902 --> 01:01:47,107 And the only way to stop them was to inhale amyl nitrate. 1176 01:01:48,508 --> 01:01:51,011 You're talking about a six foot three, six foot four man, 1177 01:01:51,111 --> 01:01:55,215 very lithe and lanky, now having a very tight belly, 1178 01:01:58,551 --> 01:02:00,687 just from distention, not from fat. 1179 01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:02,455 Walking around hiccuping. 1180 01:02:02,489 --> 01:02:05,158 (hiccuping) 1181 01:02:05,191 --> 01:02:06,191 All day. 1182 01:02:07,227 --> 01:02:08,828 - They wanted to remove the spleen 1183 01:02:08,862 --> 01:02:11,063 which would stop the hiccups, and I remember 1184 01:02:11,064 --> 01:02:14,367 the day he went in for the operation, 1185 01:02:14,401 --> 01:02:16,169 the doctors came in and they said, 1186 01:02:16,202 --> 01:02:19,673 "We are not gonna do this operation, you will not survive. 1187 01:02:19,706 --> 01:02:21,817 "You will not come off the table, you're in no condition. 1188 01:02:21,841 --> 01:02:24,077 "Stop everything, go home." 1189 01:02:26,946 --> 01:02:30,483 - We used to call him Mare, because it was French for Mary, 1190 01:02:30,517 --> 01:02:33,553 you know and he use to say, "I'm the old gray mare." 1191 01:02:33,586 --> 01:02:35,598 It was a term of endearment so if we really wanted to say, 1192 01:02:35,622 --> 01:02:37,590 say oh Mare, that's how we talked to him, 1193 01:02:37,624 --> 01:02:39,526 and it just made him kinda misty-eyed 1194 01:02:39,559 --> 01:02:41,561 when we called him Mare. 1195 01:02:41,594 --> 01:02:45,165 When he was passing away, those last few weeks 1196 01:02:45,198 --> 01:02:48,368 he was in the hospital, I got to tell him several times 1197 01:02:48,401 --> 01:02:51,905 I said, you know Mary, we fought hard over all these years 1198 01:02:51,938 --> 01:02:54,106 for a lot of things, and I have to tell you 1199 01:02:54,107 --> 01:02:55,842 now that I've been in business for myself 1200 01:02:55,875 --> 01:02:59,446 is that you were usually right, and he was. 1201 01:03:01,748 --> 01:03:04,718 - [Voiceover] It's strange how people die. 1202 01:03:04,751 --> 01:03:07,387 I got a call from his houseboy. 1203 01:03:10,423 --> 01:03:13,727 He was very ill, said Chuck was expecting a visitor. 1204 01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:15,395 Stan, his distributor. 1205 01:03:15,428 --> 01:03:18,064 He got up that morning, got dressed, 1206 01:03:18,098 --> 01:03:19,742 he started feeling a little tired so he said 1207 01:03:19,766 --> 01:03:21,267 he would lay down. 1208 01:03:22,635 --> 01:03:25,405 - I remember this long, dark hallway to Chuck's room. 1209 01:03:25,438 --> 01:03:28,074 The door was closed, and that's rare, 1210 01:03:28,108 --> 01:03:30,910 and I thought this is weird, so I opened the door, 1211 01:03:30,944 --> 01:03:34,748 and as I opened the door, I see all these people 1212 01:03:34,781 --> 01:03:36,916 in a V facing him in his bed. 1213 01:03:36,950 --> 01:03:40,186 And he was in black sheets, pale white, 1214 01:03:41,621 --> 01:03:45,392 and as I walked through the door, he goes (inhales). 1215 01:03:45,425 --> 01:03:49,094 One breath, I'm not kidding you, it was one breath. 1216 01:03:49,095 --> 01:03:50,997 And I see all the blood drain out of his face. 1217 01:03:51,097 --> 01:03:52,465 He's dead. 1218 01:03:52,499 --> 01:03:55,835 I hold his hand and I sat there and I just said to him, 1219 01:03:55,869 --> 01:04:00,040 I said, "Chuck I just want to thank you for everything 1220 01:04:01,474 --> 01:04:05,478 "that you've done for me, and I just love you so much." 1221 01:04:05,512 --> 01:04:09,683 And it holds me up thinking that when you see on TV 1222 01:04:11,317 --> 01:04:15,054 that people float up when they die and look down, 1223 01:04:15,055 --> 01:04:18,158 that he might be looking down on me. 1224 01:04:18,191 --> 01:04:20,293 (crying) 1225 01:04:22,562 --> 01:04:27,167 And that was when this little bitch came out the bathroom, 1226 01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:29,302 was hiding out in the bathroom, wanted to hear 1227 01:04:29,336 --> 01:04:32,672 my conversation, and I was like, one of the money hangers, 1228 01:04:32,706 --> 01:04:34,974 like one of these people who was there just hanging on 1229 01:04:35,075 --> 01:04:38,945 for his wealth, like he probably got all the cats 1230 01:04:38,978 --> 01:04:41,348 and the dowry and then gave the cats back 1231 01:04:41,381 --> 01:04:43,350 because he got the money and ran. 1232 01:04:43,383 --> 01:04:45,485 All these people were just sucking him. 1233 01:04:45,518 --> 01:04:48,488 And so that was it and then I walked out of the bedroom 1234 01:04:48,521 --> 01:04:50,566 and I walked in the living room and everyone's talking 1235 01:04:50,590 --> 01:04:52,068 about the paintings and where they're going 1236 01:04:52,092 --> 01:04:53,669 and what they're doing and who's gonna get this 1237 01:04:53,693 --> 01:04:57,464 and who's gonna get that and I'm like, whoa, you know? 1238 01:04:57,497 --> 01:04:59,566 You fucking assholes. 1239 01:04:59,599 --> 01:05:03,035 He's not even fucking cold, and you guys are all fucking 1240 01:05:03,036 --> 01:05:04,904 dividing everything up. 1241 01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:09,642 Falcon was a glass castle. 1242 01:05:09,676 --> 01:05:11,378 It was not a reality. 1243 01:05:12,545 --> 01:05:15,749 After he died, the glass castle shattered 1244 01:05:15,782 --> 01:05:19,052 and all the air from the world came in. 1245 01:05:22,889 --> 01:05:27,360 - He was incredibly secure and he was as secure 1246 01:05:27,394 --> 01:05:29,929 as he was vulnerable. 1247 01:05:29,963 --> 01:05:32,599 He was filled with enormous self-love 1248 01:05:32,632 --> 01:05:35,301 and with enormous self-loathing. 1249 01:05:37,570 --> 01:05:41,741 He forgave immediately, and he carried a grudge forever. 1250 01:05:44,077 --> 01:05:46,780 He wanted to control everything 1251 01:05:46,813 --> 01:05:50,082 and he knew he had no control. 1252 01:05:50,083 --> 01:05:53,820 And he always doubted, let's say that he knew 1253 01:05:57,490 --> 01:06:01,728 he was a success, but he kept waiting for someone 1254 01:06:01,761 --> 01:06:04,197 to come and tap him on the shoulder, and say, 1255 01:06:04,230 --> 01:06:07,934 no, no, it wasn't meant to be you, you weren't supposed 1256 01:06:08,034 --> 01:06:11,638 to be the success, out, you're the impostor. 1257 01:06:15,275 --> 01:06:18,111 - [Voiceover] I read the headline in the January 31st issue, 1258 01:06:18,144 --> 01:06:20,914 "Center to be named after Falcon Studios founder," 1259 01:06:20,947 --> 01:06:24,050 And I was filled with disgust. 1260 01:06:24,084 --> 01:06:26,486 It is no wonder that right-wing advocates 1261 01:06:26,519 --> 01:06:28,755 and the Christian movement consistently criticize 1262 01:06:28,788 --> 01:06:31,825 and damn the GLBT community when by this action 1263 01:06:31,858 --> 01:06:35,795 it justifies their claim that we are all about sex. 1264 01:06:35,829 --> 01:06:38,431 So he contributed a million dollars toward the center. 1265 01:06:38,465 --> 01:06:39,933 Big deal. 1266 01:06:39,966 --> 01:06:43,336 I for one will not contribute another dime. 1267 01:06:43,370 --> 01:06:44,838 - There were some people who thought 1268 01:06:44,871 --> 01:06:47,574 Chuck Holmes was buying respectability, 1269 01:06:47,607 --> 01:06:49,776 but you'll always have those prudes 1270 01:06:49,809 --> 01:06:52,579 who can't face up to the fact that people have sex, 1271 01:06:52,612 --> 01:06:55,615 and didn't think that a person who made his fortune 1272 01:06:55,648 --> 01:06:58,618 in the sex industry should have his name put on 1273 01:06:58,651 --> 01:07:00,153 a public building. 1274 01:07:02,055 --> 01:07:04,023 I think it's good that the Chuck Holmes name 1275 01:07:04,024 --> 01:07:07,527 is attached to a business and that people have to confront 1276 01:07:07,560 --> 01:07:10,029 whenever it comes up that that money 1277 01:07:10,030 --> 01:07:12,799 and the honor being given to him is going to a person 1278 01:07:12,832 --> 01:07:15,301 who was involved in gay men's sexuality. 1279 01:07:15,335 --> 01:07:16,336 That's good. 1280 01:07:19,039 --> 01:07:20,783 - [Voiceover] Just think of the numberless people 1281 01:07:20,807 --> 01:07:23,510 that walk in the building or have already 1282 01:07:23,543 --> 01:07:26,479 and will in the future and I think it's important 1283 01:07:26,513 --> 01:07:30,684 to create more than a Wikipedia paragraph, perhaps. 1284 01:07:37,057 --> 01:07:38,825 - What we brought, and what this business 1285 01:07:38,858 --> 01:07:41,327 continues to bring is a gay connection 1286 01:07:41,361 --> 01:07:44,664 to people who lead private gay lives or closeted lives 1287 01:07:44,698 --> 01:07:47,334 out in the Midwest, people who have families 1288 01:07:47,367 --> 01:07:49,302 or for whatever their circumstances are. 1289 01:07:49,336 --> 01:07:51,070 I got a letter from an elderly woman. 1290 01:07:51,071 --> 01:07:53,072 She said please take my husband's name off your 1291 01:07:53,073 --> 01:07:54,684 mailing list, I thought now I'm gonna get it. 1292 01:07:54,708 --> 01:07:57,310 And she said I'd like to thank you for all the years 1293 01:07:57,344 --> 01:07:59,179 of enjoyment that you brought my husband. 1294 01:07:59,212 --> 01:08:00,756 He was on your mailing list for 10 years 1295 01:08:00,780 --> 01:08:02,215 and bought all your movies. 1296 01:08:02,248 --> 01:08:03,859 He two years ago moved to the nursing home, 1297 01:08:03,883 --> 01:08:05,518 took all his movies with him. 1298 01:08:05,552 --> 01:08:07,821 This is a woman who had nothing in common with us, 1299 01:08:07,854 --> 01:08:11,358 no investment to be kind, but she so loved her husband 1300 01:08:11,391 --> 01:08:14,194 despite something she couldn't understand 1301 01:08:14,227 --> 01:08:17,364 that she was gracious in the end. 1302 01:08:17,397 --> 01:08:19,366 That was a wonderful moment for me, and I thought, 1303 01:08:19,399 --> 01:08:21,401 we reach more people like this than you know. 1304 01:08:21,434 --> 01:08:25,171 - The one thing none of us should ever, ever forget 1305 01:08:25,205 --> 01:08:28,074 is this, the image of that young man 1306 01:08:28,108 --> 01:08:31,711 making his way to San Francisco in search of strength 1307 01:08:31,745 --> 01:08:34,214 and dignity and self-esteem, 1308 01:08:34,247 --> 01:08:38,718 and because of his own life, Chuck never, ever forgot 1309 01:08:38,752 --> 01:08:40,787 the need for each and every one of us 1310 01:08:40,820 --> 01:08:45,191 to do all things to make a better life in this country 1311 01:08:45,225 --> 01:08:49,763 and in this city for young gay and lesbian people. 1312 01:08:49,796 --> 01:08:52,799 And I think what we all know in this room today 1313 01:08:52,832 --> 01:08:56,536 is that a young gay person could do very well 1314 01:08:56,569 --> 01:08:59,305 to grow up to be Chuck Holmes. 1315 01:08:59,339 --> 01:09:02,509 (cheers and applause) 1316 01:09:11,685 --> 01:09:14,688 (funky dance music) 99215

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