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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:04,265 --> 00:00:06,309 In the criminal justice system, 2 00:00:06,310 --> 00:00:07,658 the people are represented 3 00:00:07,659 --> 00:00:10,139 by two separate, yet equally important groups: 4 00:00:10,140 --> 00:00:11,967 the police, who investigate crime, 5 00:00:11,968 --> 00:00:14,883 and the district attorneys, who prosecute the offenders. 6 00:00:14,884 --> 00:00:17,712 These are their stories. 7 00:00:21,586 --> 00:00:22,978 You look great. 8 00:00:22,979 --> 00:00:24,501 Are you sure? 9 00:00:24,502 --> 00:00:25,589 I swear. 10 00:00:25,590 --> 00:00:27,722 You're perfect. 11 00:00:27,723 --> 00:00:28,853 Okay, people. 12 00:00:28,854 --> 00:00:30,420 Places, everyone. 13 00:00:30,421 --> 00:00:32,161 Places! 14 00:00:32,162 --> 00:00:34,772 Quiet on set! 15 00:00:34,773 --> 00:00:37,906 And action. 16 00:00:37,907 --> 00:00:39,516 My Best Defense. 17 00:00:39,517 --> 00:00:41,953 It literally does everything. 18 00:00:41,954 --> 00:00:46,349 Shields your skin from harmful UV rays, hides blemishes, 19 00:00:46,350 --> 00:00:49,222 leaves you looking and feeling flawless. 20 00:00:49,223 --> 00:00:52,181 Use it as part of your daily skincare routine. 21 00:00:52,182 --> 00:00:55,358 It's the only protection you'll ever need. 22 00:00:55,359 --> 00:00:57,099 And cut! 23 00:00:57,100 --> 00:00:58,492 Beautiful. 24 00:00:58,493 --> 00:00:59,797 Let's reset and do it one more time. 25 00:01:01,409 --> 00:01:03,453 There's a guy downstairs looking for you. 26 00:01:11,201 --> 00:01:14,943 She's a kid. 27 00:01:14,944 --> 00:01:18,381 Can't be more than 16, 17. 28 00:01:18,382 --> 00:01:21,428 MLI says body temp and rigidity puts time of death 29 00:01:21,429 --> 00:01:23,865 between 7:00 and 10:00 p.m. 30 00:01:23,866 --> 00:01:25,388 We got a name? 31 00:01:25,389 --> 00:01:28,522 No. No wallet, no ID, no phone. 32 00:01:28,523 --> 00:01:30,567 Oh, boy. 33 00:01:30,568 --> 00:01:34,441 Looks like she went face first into this dumpster, huh? 34 00:01:34,442 --> 00:01:36,051 Yeah, she was strangled too. 35 00:01:36,052 --> 00:01:39,099 Got petechial hemorrhaging in her eyes, marks on her neck. 36 00:01:40,796 --> 00:01:43,450 Oh. 37 00:01:43,451 --> 00:01:45,495 Necktie. 38 00:01:45,496 --> 00:01:47,628 Make sure we get that to the lab and have that tested. 39 00:01:47,629 --> 00:01:52,372 Clothing still intact, so probably not a sexual assault. 40 00:01:52,373 --> 00:01:54,200 Who found the body? 41 00:01:54,201 --> 00:01:56,115 Maintenance guy from the flower shop nearby. 42 00:01:56,116 --> 00:01:58,726 911 call came in at 8:07 p.m. 43 00:01:58,727 --> 00:02:00,293 You know, I noticed they had a camera. 44 00:02:00,294 --> 00:02:01,772 Let's make sure we get that footage, okay? 45 00:02:01,773 --> 00:02:03,818 Mm-hmm. 46 00:02:03,819 --> 00:02:06,343 Somebody lost their child tonight. 47 00:02:08,345 --> 00:02:10,304 And they probably don't even know it. 48 00:03:01,833 --> 00:03:04,879 About an hour ago, I was taking out the trash. 49 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:06,663 I saw her legs. 50 00:03:06,664 --> 00:03:08,317 And then all of a sudden, a guy bolted 51 00:03:08,318 --> 00:03:10,101 from behind the dumpster. 52 00:03:10,102 --> 00:03:12,539 Which way did he go? 53 00:03:12,540 --> 00:03:14,671 - Up towards that corner. - Thank you. 54 00:03:14,672 --> 00:03:15,846 You get a good look at him? 55 00:03:15,847 --> 00:03:19,937 Yeah, uh, white, thin, about 5'5". 56 00:03:19,938 --> 00:03:20,895 Hair color? 57 00:03:20,896 --> 00:03:22,331 Blond. 58 00:03:22,332 --> 00:03:23,898 And he was wearing a blue puffy jacket. 59 00:03:23,899 --> 00:03:25,421 Okay. 60 00:03:25,422 --> 00:03:27,380 We're looking for a male, 5'5", thin, blond hair, 61 00:03:27,381 --> 00:03:29,033 wearing a blue jacket. 62 00:03:29,034 --> 00:03:31,253 Let's set up a perimeter north of Christopher, south of Bank. 63 00:03:31,254 --> 00:03:32,820 Let's go. 64 00:03:36,999 --> 00:03:38,827 Yeah, blue puffer. Hey, kid. 65 00:03:40,437 --> 00:03:42,133 Hey! Police! 66 00:03:43,353 --> 00:03:45,615 Kid, stop! 67 00:03:45,616 --> 00:03:46,747 NYPD! 68 00:03:46,748 --> 00:03:51,360 Hey! Stop! 69 00:03:51,361 --> 00:03:53,014 Hey! Do not move! 70 00:03:53,015 --> 00:03:54,843 Keep your hands right there. 71 00:03:56,497 --> 00:03:57,975 Get on the van. 72 00:04:03,634 --> 00:04:04,982 That's nice. Where'd you get this? 73 00:04:04,983 --> 00:04:07,246 - I found it. - You found it, huh? Where? 74 00:04:07,247 --> 00:04:09,552 - In the trash. - In the trash. 75 00:04:09,553 --> 00:04:11,641 - How old are you? - 18. 76 00:04:11,642 --> 00:04:12,947 - Try again. - 15. 77 00:04:12,948 --> 00:04:14,296 15. 78 00:04:14,297 --> 00:04:16,733 He's 15. 79 00:04:16,734 --> 00:04:18,735 We recovered the murder weapon, 80 00:04:18,736 --> 00:04:21,738 and we're getting it tested for DNA. 81 00:04:21,739 --> 00:04:25,133 And if it's a match, that means life in prison. 82 00:04:25,134 --> 00:04:26,830 I didn't kill anyone, though. 83 00:04:26,831 --> 00:04:28,919 Does this kid look like he wears a necktie? 84 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:31,008 We got a witness that says they saw him running away 85 00:04:31,009 --> 00:04:32,271 from the dead woman's body. 86 00:04:32,272 --> 00:04:33,402 He was found with a very expensive 87 00:04:33,403 --> 00:04:34,751 piece of women's jewelry. 88 00:04:34,752 --> 00:04:36,318 Now, I'm willing to bet that we will 89 00:04:36,319 --> 00:04:38,102 be able to prove that that bracelet 90 00:04:38,103 --> 00:04:40,366 belongs to the dead girl. 91 00:04:40,367 --> 00:04:42,933 Yeah. 92 00:04:42,934 --> 00:04:44,413 I was looking for food. 93 00:04:44,414 --> 00:04:47,198 And she was already dead, so I took the bracelet. 94 00:04:47,199 --> 00:04:49,288 All right, and how about her phone and her wallet? 95 00:04:49,289 --> 00:04:51,942 That's all there was. 96 00:04:51,943 --> 00:04:52,988 I swear. 97 00:04:55,382 --> 00:04:57,774 You living on the street? 98 00:04:57,775 --> 00:04:59,864 His mother has a problem with drugs. 99 00:05:02,084 --> 00:05:04,128 How about your father? 100 00:05:04,129 --> 00:05:05,391 I don't have one. 101 00:05:12,355 --> 00:05:14,138 All right. 102 00:05:14,139 --> 00:05:16,316 We will be right back. 103 00:05:24,585 --> 00:05:26,629 Did the kid's story check out? 104 00:05:26,630 --> 00:05:28,152 Got video from the flower shop 105 00:05:28,153 --> 00:05:29,458 that was near the crime scene. 106 00:05:29,459 --> 00:05:31,112 Check this out. 107 00:05:31,113 --> 00:05:32,853 So that is our victim 108 00:05:32,854 --> 00:05:35,072 27 minutes before the maintenance guy found her. 109 00:05:35,073 --> 00:05:37,553 But keep watching. It gets interesting. 110 00:05:37,554 --> 00:05:40,295 Whoever the mystery man is, he drags her 111 00:05:40,296 --> 00:05:41,470 in the direction of the dumpster, 112 00:05:41,471 --> 00:05:43,342 where the body was found. 113 00:05:43,343 --> 00:05:45,779 And then... 114 00:05:45,780 --> 00:05:48,999 24 minutes later, there's Joey walking towards the dumpster-- 115 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:50,436 no cameras back there. 116 00:05:50,437 --> 00:05:53,003 Then three minutes later, he comes back out 117 00:05:53,004 --> 00:05:54,091 with the vic's bracelet. 118 00:05:54,092 --> 00:05:55,354 He's telling the truth. 119 00:05:55,355 --> 00:05:57,573 Okay, call Social Services. - Already did. 120 00:05:57,574 --> 00:05:59,488 Uh, how'd you make out at Missing Persons? 121 00:05:59,489 --> 00:06:01,708 I cross-checked all the new reports. 122 00:06:01,709 --> 00:06:02,926 No luck. 123 00:06:02,927 --> 00:06:04,406 Facial rec? 124 00:06:04,407 --> 00:06:06,713 Flower shop footage is too grainy. 125 00:06:06,714 --> 00:06:08,279 This is the only other photo we have of her, 126 00:06:08,280 --> 00:06:11,718 and her face is too messed up to make a comparison. 127 00:06:11,719 --> 00:06:13,373 Poor kid. 128 00:06:15,592 --> 00:06:18,072 The victim's DNA is on the necktie, 129 00:06:18,073 --> 00:06:20,074 along with someone else's. 130 00:06:20,075 --> 00:06:21,902 You run it through the database? 131 00:06:21,903 --> 00:06:25,471 It's not in the system, so we can eliminate convicted felons. 132 00:06:25,472 --> 00:06:27,734 Anything else? 133 00:06:27,735 --> 00:06:29,997 Well, it's likely a Caucasian male, 134 00:06:29,998 --> 00:06:33,566 but there's no shared genetic makeup with the victim. 135 00:06:33,567 --> 00:06:36,438 So we can eliminate biological family members. 136 00:06:36,439 --> 00:06:37,657 Well, that only leaves us 137 00:06:37,658 --> 00:06:39,006 with a few hundred million suspects. 138 00:06:39,007 --> 00:06:40,486 Yeah. 139 00:06:40,487 --> 00:06:41,965 Well, in the more bad news department, 140 00:06:41,966 --> 00:06:43,619 I still haven't been able to determine 141 00:06:43,620 --> 00:06:45,273 this victim's identity. 142 00:06:45,274 --> 00:06:46,274 I can't believe her parents 143 00:06:46,275 --> 00:06:47,797 haven't reported her missing yet. 144 00:06:47,798 --> 00:06:48,842 I know. 145 00:06:48,843 --> 00:06:49,974 - Thank you. - Yeah. 146 00:06:53,500 --> 00:06:56,806 Vince, I need you guys to go back and canvass the area 147 00:06:56,807 --> 00:06:59,766 around the crime scene, see if anybody can identify 148 00:06:59,767 --> 00:07:01,158 the picture of the vic. 149 00:07:01,159 --> 00:07:02,725 Have you seen this woman? 150 00:07:02,726 --> 00:07:03,771 Sorry. 151 00:07:05,773 --> 00:07:07,948 - Any luck? - None. 152 00:07:07,949 --> 00:07:10,559 Excuse me, miss? 153 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:12,082 Have you seen this woman? 154 00:07:12,083 --> 00:07:14,781 Yeah, I've seen her around the neighborhood. 155 00:07:14,782 --> 00:07:16,260 Do you know her name? 156 00:07:16,261 --> 00:07:17,871 I've got ten preschool kids to keep an eye on. 157 00:07:17,872 --> 00:07:19,525 I don't really have time to socialize. 158 00:07:19,526 --> 00:07:21,658 How about yesterday? You see her yesterday? 159 00:07:23,312 --> 00:07:24,704 Yeah. 160 00:07:24,705 --> 00:07:26,749 She was with a guy, and he was yelling at her. 161 00:07:26,750 --> 00:07:28,229 Could you hear what he was saying? 162 00:07:28,230 --> 00:07:29,752 No. 163 00:07:29,753 --> 00:07:31,275 What time was this? 164 00:07:31,276 --> 00:07:34,931 Well, I was on my way home from work, so around 4:30. 165 00:07:34,932 --> 00:07:37,891 And this guy, had you ever seen him before? 166 00:07:37,892 --> 00:07:39,066 No, sorry. 167 00:07:39,067 --> 00:07:40,676 Can you describe what he looked like? 168 00:07:40,677 --> 00:07:45,507 Uh, white, medium build, medium height, bald. 169 00:07:45,508 --> 00:07:47,074 How old was he? 170 00:07:47,075 --> 00:07:50,512 Old. Like, 50? 171 00:07:50,513 --> 00:07:52,819 Oh, and he was smoking a cigarette. 172 00:07:52,820 --> 00:07:55,386 Can you show us where he was standing? 173 00:07:55,387 --> 00:07:56,475 Thank you. 174 00:07:59,043 --> 00:08:01,131 I don't see any cigarette butts. 175 00:08:01,132 --> 00:08:02,437 Mm. 176 00:08:02,438 --> 00:08:05,222 Here we go. 177 00:08:05,223 --> 00:08:07,094 It's a long shot. 178 00:08:07,095 --> 00:08:09,270 Maybe we can get some prints off the box. 179 00:08:09,271 --> 00:08:11,272 I'll call the lab, see if they can rush it. 180 00:08:11,273 --> 00:08:12,752 Yeah, if we can't get him on murder, 181 00:08:12,753 --> 00:08:14,581 maybe we can get him for littering. 182 00:08:17,061 --> 00:08:18,975 Mr. Paven, NYPD. 183 00:08:18,976 --> 00:08:21,151 Need to ask you a few questions. 184 00:08:21,152 --> 00:08:22,196 Hey, what's up? 185 00:08:22,197 --> 00:08:23,241 You know this woman? 186 00:08:26,070 --> 00:08:27,244 What'd she say? 187 00:08:27,245 --> 00:08:28,637 - Nothing now. - You got a gun on you? 188 00:08:28,638 --> 00:08:30,421 - Yeah. - Hands on the car. 189 00:08:30,422 --> 00:08:31,510 Oh, wait, man! 190 00:08:31,511 --> 00:08:32,641 But the gun is legal. 191 00:08:32,642 --> 00:08:34,861 All right? I'm on the job. 192 00:08:34,862 --> 00:08:36,166 You're a limo driver. 193 00:08:36,167 --> 00:08:38,081 Yeah, I also work private security. 194 00:08:38,082 --> 00:08:40,780 Yeah, well, if everything checks out, you'll get it back. 195 00:08:40,781 --> 00:08:42,303 Come on. - I'm not going anywhere, man. 196 00:08:42,304 --> 00:08:43,739 My client is in that building. 197 00:08:43,740 --> 00:08:45,699 Tell him he's gotta find another ride. 198 00:08:51,269 --> 00:08:53,314 Is this really necessary? 199 00:08:53,315 --> 00:08:55,882 Look, whatever that bitch said, it is a lie. 200 00:08:55,883 --> 00:08:59,581 You've got a lot of anger towards this young woman-- 201 00:08:59,582 --> 00:09:01,888 girl-- 202 00:09:01,889 --> 00:09:02,803 and she's dead. 203 00:09:05,066 --> 00:09:07,981 And we have a witness who saw you bullying her a few hours 204 00:09:07,982 --> 00:09:09,809 before she was killed. 205 00:09:09,810 --> 00:09:13,813 Now, why were you, a grown man, yelling at a teenage girl 206 00:09:13,814 --> 00:09:15,728 on the sidewalk? 207 00:09:15,729 --> 00:09:18,644 Maybe I should have a lawyer here or something. 208 00:09:18,645 --> 00:09:21,472 That's fine by me. 209 00:09:21,473 --> 00:09:23,605 In the meantime, I'm going to confiscate your gun. 210 00:09:23,606 --> 00:09:25,346 Wait, look, I need that for work. 211 00:09:25,347 --> 00:09:26,434 I've got a license for it. 212 00:09:26,435 --> 00:09:27,740 You can't just take that from me. 213 00:09:27,741 --> 00:09:29,393 Yes, I can. 214 00:09:29,394 --> 00:09:31,439 You're a person of interest in a murder case. 215 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:33,441 You're refusing to cooperate with the police. 216 00:09:33,442 --> 00:09:34,529 As far as I'm concerned, that makes you 217 00:09:34,530 --> 00:09:36,749 a threat to public safety. 218 00:09:36,750 --> 00:09:38,533 H--hold on. 219 00:09:38,534 --> 00:09:39,753 Look. 220 00:09:41,842 --> 00:09:45,322 My son, all right, he follows that girl on social media. 221 00:09:45,323 --> 00:09:47,368 She was pushing some new sports drink. 222 00:09:47,369 --> 00:09:48,891 You know, said that it would make him strong 223 00:09:48,892 --> 00:09:51,067 and full of energy or some bull like that. 224 00:09:51,068 --> 00:09:52,591 I mean, this girl made it a contest. 225 00:09:52,592 --> 00:09:54,375 How many can you drink in a row? 226 00:09:54,376 --> 00:09:57,421 So my kid ended up downing, like, five of them 227 00:09:57,422 --> 00:09:58,727 in less than an hour. 228 00:09:58,728 --> 00:10:00,337 And there was so much caffeine in it 229 00:10:00,338 --> 00:10:02,775 that he ended up having a freaking heart attack. 230 00:10:02,776 --> 00:10:04,691 I'm serious, all right? He almost died. 231 00:10:06,910 --> 00:10:08,694 How did you find her? 232 00:10:08,695 --> 00:10:11,000 That girl posted, like, everything she did, 233 00:10:11,001 --> 00:10:12,959 literally everything. 234 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:15,352 So I knew that she was doing a commercial. 235 00:10:15,353 --> 00:10:17,137 She even said the name of the studio. 236 00:10:17,138 --> 00:10:18,791 So I looked it up, went down there, 237 00:10:18,792 --> 00:10:20,706 and, you know, I had a little talk with her. 238 00:10:20,707 --> 00:10:24,013 Okay, where were you between 7:00 and 10:00 p.m. last night? 239 00:10:24,014 --> 00:10:25,537 I was in Jersey with a client. 240 00:10:26,930 --> 00:10:28,975 I can give you his contact info if you need. 241 00:10:28,976 --> 00:10:31,151 Yeah, I'm gonna need the name of the young woman 242 00:10:31,152 --> 00:10:32,326 you accosted. 243 00:10:34,677 --> 00:10:36,374 Kaitlyn was so special. 244 00:10:38,376 --> 00:10:43,076 She's beautiful, inside and out. 245 00:10:43,077 --> 00:10:47,036 I've gotta ask, is there a reason 246 00:10:47,037 --> 00:10:48,821 that you didn't report your daughter missing? 247 00:10:48,822 --> 00:10:50,910 She didn't live here. We didn't know. 248 00:10:50,911 --> 00:10:53,173 She doesn't live here anymore. 249 00:10:53,174 --> 00:10:55,436 She was 17? 250 00:10:55,437 --> 00:10:56,873 Yeah, um... 251 00:10:58,745 --> 00:11:01,790 She's a--a-- 252 00:11:01,791 --> 00:11:02,922 she was a model, 253 00:11:02,923 --> 00:11:05,315 so she lived with a group of models. 254 00:11:05,316 --> 00:11:07,361 No school? 255 00:11:07,362 --> 00:11:09,624 She graduated early. 256 00:11:09,625 --> 00:11:11,539 But we're still very much involved. 257 00:11:11,540 --> 00:11:14,412 We--we spoke to her every night. 258 00:11:16,850 --> 00:11:18,067 Just not last night. 259 00:11:18,068 --> 00:11:22,724 We were at a premiere, Michelle's premiere. 260 00:11:22,725 --> 00:11:27,120 She's a--she's a film director. 261 00:11:27,121 --> 00:11:29,384 I promised my daughter I'd take her this weekend. 262 00:11:30,907 --> 00:11:35,389 Was Kaitlyn having any problems with anyone? 263 00:11:35,390 --> 00:11:40,220 She-- She had a boyfriend. 264 00:11:40,221 --> 00:11:41,961 He's--he's a little older. 265 00:11:41,962 --> 00:11:43,310 They were in the process of breaking up. 266 00:11:52,146 --> 00:11:54,974 Who the hell lets their daughter live alone at 17? 267 00:11:54,975 --> 00:11:56,236 What do you mean? 268 00:11:56,237 --> 00:11:58,281 Kids leave for college all the time at 18. 269 00:11:58,282 --> 00:12:00,283 Same thing. - No, no, no. 270 00:12:00,284 --> 00:12:02,459 Big difference between 17 and 18. 271 00:12:02,460 --> 00:12:05,898 And college is filled with college kids, you know? 272 00:12:05,899 --> 00:12:07,508 You gotta let them fly at some point, bro. 273 00:12:07,509 --> 00:12:09,292 All I know is, when my daughter turns 17, 274 00:12:09,293 --> 00:12:11,425 she's not shacking up with some 20-year-old dude named Dylan. 275 00:12:14,385 --> 00:12:17,170 She's dead? 276 00:12:17,171 --> 00:12:18,606 Oh. 277 00:12:18,607 --> 00:12:20,652 That's, like, surreal. 278 00:12:22,437 --> 00:12:23,437 Yeah. 279 00:12:23,438 --> 00:12:25,091 Uh, hey, hey, Dylan. 280 00:12:25,092 --> 00:12:26,483 Yeah? 281 00:12:26,484 --> 00:12:27,789 Are you planning on going somewhere? 282 00:12:27,790 --> 00:12:29,922 I just got back from Paris. 283 00:12:29,923 --> 00:12:32,011 I was there for a magazine shoot. 284 00:12:32,012 --> 00:12:34,665 When's the last time you spoke to Kaitlyn? 285 00:12:34,666 --> 00:12:37,233 I texted her last night at 8:00 when I landed at JFK. 286 00:12:37,234 --> 00:12:38,974 Never heard back. 287 00:12:38,975 --> 00:12:40,454 Did that surprise you? 288 00:12:40,455 --> 00:12:42,456 We've been fighting a lot. 289 00:12:42,457 --> 00:12:44,676 About what? 290 00:12:46,374 --> 00:12:48,201 She was cheating on me. 291 00:12:48,202 --> 00:12:49,811 What makes you say that? 292 00:12:49,812 --> 00:12:51,595 She'd been acting all weird, spending a lot of time 293 00:12:51,596 --> 00:12:53,946 with other people. 294 00:12:53,947 --> 00:12:59,647 And she didn't wanna be, you know, intimate. 295 00:12:59,648 --> 00:13:01,650 Any idea who she was seeing? 296 00:13:06,786 --> 00:13:08,134 Can you show us her room? 297 00:13:16,926 --> 00:13:19,188 This her laptop? 298 00:13:19,189 --> 00:13:20,669 You know the password? 299 00:13:32,072 --> 00:13:33,812 Two hours before the murder, she googled 300 00:13:33,813 --> 00:13:35,857 the address of Daisy's Donuts. 301 00:13:35,858 --> 00:13:37,511 Four blocks from the murder scene. 302 00:13:37,512 --> 00:13:38,686 Looks like they make a hell of a cruller, 303 00:13:38,687 --> 00:13:40,035 I'll give them that. 304 00:13:40,036 --> 00:13:42,385 Does anyone remember seeing Kaitlyn? 305 00:13:42,386 --> 00:13:44,213 - Nope. - Did they have cameras? 306 00:13:44,214 --> 00:13:45,867 They weren't working. 307 00:13:45,868 --> 00:13:48,696 Manager just emailed me the credit card receipts. 308 00:13:48,697 --> 00:13:50,046 Is her boyfriend's name in there? 309 00:13:52,005 --> 00:13:54,528 I don't see it. 310 00:13:54,529 --> 00:13:55,747 This is interesting, though. 311 00:14:02,450 --> 00:14:03,624 Did you find something? 312 00:14:03,625 --> 00:14:04,930 Do you know who killed my daughter? 313 00:14:04,931 --> 00:14:06,496 We need to speak to your husband right now. 314 00:14:06,497 --> 00:14:08,194 Is he here? - Yes, yes. Of course. 315 00:14:08,195 --> 00:14:09,587 Come in. He's-- 316 00:14:12,982 --> 00:14:14,374 What's going on? 317 00:14:14,375 --> 00:14:16,463 Do you guys have an update? - We do. 318 00:14:16,464 --> 00:14:18,595 We can talk about it down at the precinct. 319 00:14:18,596 --> 00:14:20,075 Now? 320 00:14:20,076 --> 00:14:21,424 Right now. 321 00:14:21,425 --> 00:14:23,687 It's a little late in the day. 322 00:14:23,688 --> 00:14:25,385 Couldn't we do this first thing in the morning? 323 00:14:25,386 --> 00:14:26,995 No, this can't wait. 324 00:14:26,996 --> 00:14:29,737 And we would prefer to do it in our office. 325 00:14:29,738 --> 00:14:32,566 So we need you to come with us. 326 00:14:32,567 --> 00:14:34,437 I don't understand. What's the problem? 327 00:14:34,438 --> 00:14:35,874 Am I under arrest? 328 00:14:35,875 --> 00:14:37,136 We're giving you an opportunity 329 00:14:37,137 --> 00:14:39,268 to come in voluntarily. 330 00:14:39,269 --> 00:14:40,269 But if not... 331 00:14:44,144 --> 00:14:45,971 I guess so. 332 00:14:52,500 --> 00:14:55,197 We've got a credit card receipt that puts you 333 00:14:55,198 --> 00:14:57,547 in a café a few blocks from the crime scene 334 00:14:57,548 --> 00:14:59,941 a half hour before Kaitlyn was killed. 335 00:14:59,942 --> 00:15:02,422 And Kaitlyn just happened to google the address of that café 336 00:15:02,423 --> 00:15:04,206 a couple hours before she was killed. 337 00:15:04,207 --> 00:15:05,947 And we got surveillance video from a flower shop 338 00:15:05,948 --> 00:15:08,645 down the block that picked you up after you left the café. 339 00:15:08,646 --> 00:15:11,126 It shows a man who looks a lot like you 340 00:15:11,127 --> 00:15:12,954 grabbing Kaitlyn by the arm and pushing her 341 00:15:12,955 --> 00:15:14,434 in the direction of the crime scene. 342 00:15:14,435 --> 00:15:16,697 And you told us that you didn't talk to Kaitlyn 343 00:15:16,698 --> 00:15:17,959 the day that she was murdered. 344 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:20,135 Isn't that right? - Mm-hmm, yeah. Yeah. 345 00:15:20,136 --> 00:15:22,659 You lied about your alibi, too, didn't you? 346 00:15:22,660 --> 00:15:24,139 Said you were at a movie premiere? 347 00:15:24,140 --> 00:15:25,793 No, I was-- 348 00:15:25,794 --> 00:15:27,664 I was at the premiere. 349 00:15:27,665 --> 00:15:28,796 Really. 350 00:15:28,797 --> 00:15:30,580 Well, the time stamp on the bill here 351 00:15:30,581 --> 00:15:33,105 says that you paid six minutes after the movie started. 352 00:15:33,106 --> 00:15:34,758 So help me out here. - Correct. 353 00:15:34,759 --> 00:15:36,978 I had coffee with my daughter, and then I went to the movie. 354 00:15:36,979 --> 00:15:39,416 I got there late. - Hmm. 355 00:15:46,032 --> 00:15:49,469 Here's me and Michelle at the theater. 356 00:15:49,470 --> 00:15:51,906 That corroborates my client's alibi. 357 00:15:51,907 --> 00:15:54,387 The theater is, like, 15 minutes from the crime scene. 358 00:15:54,388 --> 00:15:56,867 He could have killed Kaitlyn and gotten back to the theater 359 00:15:56,868 --> 00:15:58,130 before the movie was over. 360 00:15:58,131 --> 00:15:59,566 Still, I'm confused. 361 00:15:59,567 --> 00:16:01,481 Didn't the ME tell you the DNA on the murder weapon 362 00:16:01,482 --> 00:16:04,614 didn't come from anyone in Kaitlyn's family? 363 00:16:04,615 --> 00:16:08,009 The ME said that the killer's DNA profile 364 00:16:08,010 --> 00:16:10,664 didn't share any genetic similarities 365 00:16:10,665 --> 00:16:12,231 with the victim. 366 00:16:12,232 --> 00:16:14,102 He's not Kaitlyn's biological father? 367 00:16:14,103 --> 00:16:15,843 According to family court records, 368 00:16:15,844 --> 00:16:19,673 Ron adopted Kaitlyn after he married Michelle 369 00:16:19,674 --> 00:16:21,892 about ten years ago. 370 00:16:21,893 --> 00:16:24,504 Can I go home now? 371 00:16:24,505 --> 00:16:26,027 No. 372 00:16:26,028 --> 00:16:27,550 We have a few more questions. 373 00:16:27,551 --> 00:16:29,683 Hold him while you get a warrant for his DNA. 374 00:16:29,684 --> 00:16:32,034 If it matches the necktie, charge him with murder. 375 00:16:40,608 --> 00:16:43,044 Calling docket ending in 5912, 376 00:16:43,045 --> 00:16:45,090 People v. Ronald Lawson, 377 00:16:45,091 --> 00:16:48,093 charging murder in the second degree. 378 00:16:48,094 --> 00:16:49,181 How do you plead, sir? 379 00:16:49,182 --> 00:16:51,052 My client pleads not guilty. 380 00:16:51,053 --> 00:16:52,793 I'll hear the People on bail. 381 00:16:52,794 --> 00:16:55,578 The victim in this case is the defendant's daughter. 382 00:16:55,579 --> 00:16:57,537 The evidence shows that Mr. Lawson 383 00:16:57,538 --> 00:17:01,541 pushed her into a dumpster, causing a severe head wound. 384 00:17:01,542 --> 00:17:03,934 Then, as she lay bleeding on the pavement, 385 00:17:03,935 --> 00:17:06,241 he strangled her with his necktie. 386 00:17:06,242 --> 00:17:09,288 We have video and credit card statement 387 00:17:09,289 --> 00:17:11,072 putting him near the crime scene. 388 00:17:11,073 --> 00:17:13,161 His DNA is on the weapon. 389 00:17:13,162 --> 00:17:15,729 We'd submit that he's a danger to the community 390 00:17:15,730 --> 00:17:18,079 and a flight risk. People request remand. 391 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:20,734 The only thing worse than losing your child, Your Honor, 392 00:17:20,735 --> 00:17:22,779 is losing your child and then being falsely 393 00:17:22,780 --> 00:17:24,303 accused of killing her. 394 00:17:24,304 --> 00:17:27,828 The People have no case, no motive, no eyewitnesses. 395 00:17:27,829 --> 00:17:30,961 My client is a respected member of his community. 396 00:17:30,962 --> 00:17:33,268 My client's wife, Michelle Burns, 397 00:17:33,269 --> 00:17:34,878 who is also the victim's mother, 398 00:17:34,879 --> 00:17:37,881 has signed an affidavit affirming that 399 00:17:37,882 --> 00:17:40,536 they were at a movie premiere at the time of the murder. 400 00:17:40,537 --> 00:17:41,929 It was a three-hour film. 401 00:17:41,930 --> 00:17:44,497 He had more than enough time to kill his daughter 402 00:17:44,498 --> 00:17:46,238 and saunter back into the theater 403 00:17:46,239 --> 00:17:48,284 to enjoy his wife's movie. 404 00:17:50,634 --> 00:17:52,810 The bail is set at 20 million. 405 00:17:55,770 --> 00:17:57,031 Don't worry, I got you. 406 00:17:57,032 --> 00:17:58,207 Okay? 407 00:18:04,474 --> 00:18:07,172 The victim's mother posted bail for the killer? 408 00:18:07,173 --> 00:18:08,825 It was a first for me as well. 409 00:18:08,826 --> 00:18:12,264 She also doubled down on her husband's so-called alibi. 410 00:18:12,265 --> 00:18:14,570 She obviously believes in Lawson's innocence. 411 00:18:14,571 --> 00:18:16,050 Are we sure we got the right guy? 412 00:18:16,051 --> 00:18:17,791 Yeah, evidence is strong. 413 00:18:17,792 --> 00:18:19,097 What about motive? 414 00:18:19,098 --> 00:18:20,620 Why would Lawson kill his own child? 415 00:18:20,621 --> 00:18:23,318 That is the one missing piece. 416 00:18:23,319 --> 00:18:25,407 Have we done a deep dive into their texts, emails? 417 00:18:25,408 --> 00:18:27,714 Well, I just finished, actually, 418 00:18:27,715 --> 00:18:29,542 and, uh, I think we have the answer. 419 00:18:29,543 --> 00:18:31,848 Kaitlyn made a video, was supposed to go live 420 00:18:31,849 --> 00:18:33,763 the day she was killed. 421 00:18:33,764 --> 00:18:35,025 It's horrific. 422 00:18:39,030 --> 00:18:43,425 My father, Ron Lawson... 423 00:18:43,426 --> 00:18:45,819 sexually abused me. 424 00:18:45,820 --> 00:18:50,824 It started when I was 14, and he's still doing it. 425 00:18:50,825 --> 00:18:53,479 I know it sounds weird, but, uh, 426 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:56,960 at first, it made me feel special. 427 00:18:56,961 --> 00:19:00,312 I actually thought I was in love with him. 428 00:19:00,313 --> 00:19:03,489 But recently, I-- I started to realize 429 00:19:03,490 --> 00:19:09,321 how horrible and abusive it actually is. 430 00:19:09,322 --> 00:19:10,975 So... 431 00:19:13,456 --> 00:19:16,197 I told him to stop. 432 00:19:16,198 --> 00:19:19,026 He wouldn't. 433 00:19:19,027 --> 00:19:22,334 So, um, I told my mother. 434 00:19:22,335 --> 00:19:26,774 But she wasn't-- she wasn't able to help. 435 00:19:28,906 --> 00:19:34,215 That's why I'm making this video, 436 00:19:34,216 --> 00:19:37,566 to tell the world my truth. 437 00:19:37,567 --> 00:19:39,742 The defendant killed Kaitlyn Lawson 438 00:19:39,743 --> 00:19:41,527 because he was afraid of exposure. 439 00:19:41,528 --> 00:19:43,790 He didn't want the world to know 440 00:19:43,791 --> 00:19:48,403 his disgusting, perverted secret. 441 00:19:48,404 --> 00:19:52,146 The evidence will show that he invited her to a café, 442 00:19:52,147 --> 00:19:54,540 where he tried to talk her out of posting the video. 443 00:19:54,541 --> 00:19:57,673 When she refused, he grabbed her by the arm 444 00:19:57,674 --> 00:19:59,719 and dragged her behind a flower shop. 445 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:03,070 He shoved her face-first into a dumpster, 446 00:20:03,071 --> 00:20:08,945 and then he used his necktie to strangle the life out of her. 447 00:20:08,946 --> 00:20:13,559 Ron Lawson thought by killing Kaitlyn, 448 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:16,824 his secret would be safe, but... 449 00:20:19,043 --> 00:20:23,351 But now we all know what Kaitlyn knew. 450 00:20:23,352 --> 00:20:25,571 The defendant is a pedophile. 451 00:20:25,572 --> 00:20:28,530 He is also a killer. 452 00:20:28,531 --> 00:20:33,753 And he must answer to that. 453 00:20:33,754 --> 00:20:36,016 We're going to take a brief recess. 454 00:20:36,017 --> 00:20:38,148 I'll see you all back here in 20 minutes. 455 00:20:50,901 --> 00:20:53,251 Get back! Get back! 456 00:20:53,252 --> 00:20:54,295 Stay-- 457 00:20:54,296 --> 00:20:55,340 No, no, no, no! 458 00:20:55,341 --> 00:20:57,211 Back! 459 00:20:57,212 --> 00:20:59,039 Hey. Ron, put the gun down! 460 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:01,171 Put it down! 461 00:21:01,172 --> 00:21:03,783 Do not do anything stupid. 462 00:21:03,784 --> 00:21:05,394 Put it down. 463 00:21:08,789 --> 00:21:10,268 No, no, no! 464 00:21:24,413 --> 00:21:26,109 - That was... - Yeah. 465 00:21:26,110 --> 00:21:27,589 I don't even know how to process it. 466 00:21:27,590 --> 00:21:28,982 Everybody okay? 467 00:21:28,983 --> 00:21:32,159 I'm just glad no one else was hurt. 468 00:21:36,730 --> 00:21:39,688 Where do we go from here? 469 00:21:39,689 --> 00:21:41,211 I presume you're gonna file a motion 470 00:21:41,212 --> 00:21:42,561 to dismiss the charges? 471 00:21:42,562 --> 00:21:43,997 Yeah, we'll have to. 472 00:21:43,998 --> 00:21:46,391 Well, bastard got off easy, if you ask me. 473 00:21:46,392 --> 00:21:48,131 Now nobody gets held accountable. 474 00:21:48,132 --> 00:21:52,092 Maybe we should look into the mother. 475 00:21:52,093 --> 00:21:54,007 Well, unfortunately, posting bail 476 00:21:54,008 --> 00:21:55,661 for your abusive husband isn't a crime. 477 00:21:55,662 --> 00:21:57,140 She didn't just post bail. 478 00:21:57,141 --> 00:21:59,055 She was aware that her daughter was being abused, 479 00:21:59,056 --> 00:22:00,187 and she did nothing to protect her. 480 00:22:00,188 --> 00:22:01,797 She just let it happen. 481 00:22:01,798 --> 00:22:04,322 Hard to imagine. 482 00:22:04,323 --> 00:22:06,411 Is there a reason she just looked the other way? 483 00:22:06,412 --> 00:22:08,151 Oh, no idea. 484 00:22:08,152 --> 00:22:09,892 Makes no sense to me. 485 00:22:09,893 --> 00:22:13,069 Her movies are all about female empowerment 486 00:22:13,070 --> 00:22:14,636 and gender equality. 487 00:22:14,637 --> 00:22:15,855 So what do you wanna do? 488 00:22:15,856 --> 00:22:17,639 I wanna charge her with endangering 489 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:19,119 the welfare of a child. 490 00:22:19,120 --> 00:22:21,121 Can we prove Michelle had knowledge of the abuse? 491 00:22:21,122 --> 00:22:22,731 We have Kaitlyn's video. 492 00:22:22,732 --> 00:22:24,994 Maybe. 493 00:22:24,995 --> 00:22:26,387 If we offer it for the truth, 494 00:22:26,388 --> 00:22:29,477 it'll likely be excluded as hearsay. 495 00:22:29,478 --> 00:22:31,045 But I'm with you, Nolan. 496 00:22:32,525 --> 00:22:35,004 Michelle Burns had a duty to protect her child, 497 00:22:35,005 --> 00:22:37,225 and she didn't, and now the girl's dead, so. 498 00:22:39,532 --> 00:22:40,967 Talk to Brady. 499 00:22:40,968 --> 00:22:42,882 Maybe she can figure out a way to get Michelle to admit 500 00:22:42,883 --> 00:22:44,144 she knew what was going on 501 00:22:44,145 --> 00:22:45,276 between her husband and Kaitlyn. 502 00:22:49,846 --> 00:22:51,020 - Michelle. - Oh. 503 00:22:51,021 --> 00:22:52,413 - Hi. - Hi. 504 00:22:52,414 --> 00:22:54,241 Thanks so much for coming in. 505 00:22:54,242 --> 00:22:56,852 Do you want a coffee or water or something? 506 00:22:56,853 --> 00:22:59,072 No. No, thank you. 507 00:22:59,073 --> 00:23:02,467 Well, I can't imagine what you're going through. 508 00:23:02,468 --> 00:23:04,686 Yeah, it's, uh-- 509 00:23:04,687 --> 00:23:07,515 it's been a long few days. 510 00:23:07,516 --> 00:23:09,125 I'm really very sorry, but I won't 511 00:23:09,126 --> 00:23:10,518 take up much of your time. 512 00:23:10,519 --> 00:23:13,566 I just--I just need to tie up a few loose ends. 513 00:23:16,569 --> 00:23:17,570 Have a seat. 514 00:23:21,965 --> 00:23:25,533 Some of Kaitlyn's personal effects. 515 00:23:25,534 --> 00:23:30,059 I thought they might be of some sentimental value. 516 00:23:30,060 --> 00:23:33,280 You can take them if you want. 517 00:23:33,281 --> 00:23:35,152 I just need you to sign that form. 518 00:23:41,463 --> 00:23:43,944 I have a lot of respect for your work. 519 00:23:45,467 --> 00:23:48,426 I think your movies are very powerful, 520 00:23:48,427 --> 00:23:50,863 and they remind me of Alice Munro. 521 00:23:50,864 --> 00:23:55,258 I know she's a novelist, but, um... 522 00:23:55,259 --> 00:23:57,436 I really admire her work as well. 523 00:24:00,308 --> 00:24:03,658 Yeah, you two have a lot in common. 524 00:24:03,659 --> 00:24:07,009 I mean, you're both feminists that wanted to raise 525 00:24:07,010 --> 00:24:10,230 strong, opinionated daughters, and-- 526 00:24:10,231 --> 00:24:12,188 And both stayed with men 527 00:24:12,189 --> 00:24:14,453 even after we knew about their failings? 528 00:24:16,411 --> 00:24:19,326 Well, yeah, that's what I was gonna say. 529 00:24:19,327 --> 00:24:20,589 I know. 530 00:24:23,244 --> 00:24:25,332 I'm not here to judge, Michelle, really. 531 00:24:25,333 --> 00:24:29,292 Honestly, I'm just trying to tie up some loose ends. 532 00:24:29,293 --> 00:24:31,730 But now that you mention it, actually, I'm-- 533 00:24:31,731 --> 00:24:33,472 I must say, I'm curious. 534 00:24:36,083 --> 00:24:37,345 About what? 535 00:24:38,825 --> 00:24:43,176 Well, you're a brilliant and talented woman, 536 00:24:43,177 --> 00:24:45,961 a powerful woman. 537 00:24:45,962 --> 00:24:49,487 I--I--I just don't see how you could 538 00:24:49,488 --> 00:24:52,273 sit there and let that happen. 539 00:24:54,536 --> 00:24:58,452 I suppose I felt the same way Alice did. 540 00:24:58,453 --> 00:24:59,975 You know, I love them both very much, 541 00:24:59,976 --> 00:25:04,153 and I suppose I decided that it was their business, 542 00:25:04,154 --> 00:25:06,982 and it wasn't my place to get involved. 543 00:25:09,246 --> 00:25:10,682 Not your place? 544 00:25:10,683 --> 00:25:14,599 Well, I know on some level, yes. 545 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,384 I mean, if you eliminate patriarchal norms 546 00:25:17,385 --> 00:25:20,953 and expectations, why should I be expected to dismiss 547 00:25:20,954 --> 00:25:24,043 my own wants and desires, 548 00:25:24,044 --> 00:25:26,001 or even worse, dismiss those wants 549 00:25:26,002 --> 00:25:28,265 and desires for my child? 550 00:25:30,398 --> 00:25:33,661 So you knew about the video Kaitlyn made? 551 00:25:33,662 --> 00:25:36,185 Yes. 552 00:25:36,186 --> 00:25:38,927 And what about your husband? Did he know? 553 00:25:38,928 --> 00:25:41,016 Yes, I--I told him. 554 00:25:50,461 --> 00:25:51,419 Well. 555 00:25:53,769 --> 00:25:57,556 Michelle, I have to tell you, you make me sick. 556 00:25:59,427 --> 00:26:01,124 - What? - Get up. 557 00:26:02,648 --> 00:26:04,474 - What the hell are you doing? - Stand up. 558 00:26:04,475 --> 00:26:06,868 Put your hands behind your back. 559 00:26:08,001 --> 00:26:09,437 You're under arrest. 560 00:26:12,483 --> 00:26:14,572 She told her husband about the video? 561 00:26:14,573 --> 00:26:16,008 That Kaitlyn was planning to expose her? 562 00:26:16,009 --> 00:26:17,531 Sure did. 563 00:26:17,532 --> 00:26:19,272 She might as well have handed him a loaded gun. 564 00:26:19,273 --> 00:26:22,928 Ask me, this is more than child endangerment. 565 00:26:22,929 --> 00:26:25,060 You want me to charge her with manslaughter? 566 00:26:25,061 --> 00:26:26,409 Man two. 567 00:26:26,410 --> 00:26:28,673 Michelle Burns had a duty to protect her child, 568 00:26:28,674 --> 00:26:31,153 and her reckless actions and inactions 569 00:26:31,154 --> 00:26:33,504 directly led to her daughter's death. 570 00:26:37,683 --> 00:26:39,945 Sam. 571 00:26:39,946 --> 00:26:41,642 - Hi. - Hey, how are you? 572 00:26:41,643 --> 00:26:43,470 I'm good. 573 00:26:43,471 --> 00:26:45,341 You represent Michelle Burns? 574 00:26:45,342 --> 00:26:47,300 I wish I wasn't. 575 00:26:47,301 --> 00:26:49,911 I can't believe you're actually prosecuting her. 576 00:26:49,912 --> 00:26:51,130 She's a victim. 577 00:26:51,131 --> 00:26:52,653 Her daughter was murdered. 578 00:26:52,654 --> 00:26:54,263 Yeah, I get it. 579 00:26:54,264 --> 00:26:57,919 But she had a duty, a legal duty to protect her daughter. 580 00:26:57,920 --> 00:26:59,791 She didn't. So. 581 00:26:59,792 --> 00:27:01,531 Well, you may be right, 582 00:27:01,532 --> 00:27:04,056 but it's more complicated than that. 583 00:27:04,057 --> 00:27:06,058 What are you talking about? 584 00:27:06,059 --> 00:27:09,628 Kaitlyn wasn't the only woman Ron Lawson abused. 585 00:27:16,765 --> 00:27:19,114 I'm requesting the court's permission to allow 586 00:27:19,115 --> 00:27:20,899 an expert witness at trial-- 587 00:27:20,900 --> 00:27:24,163 a psychologist who can testify to my client's state of mind 588 00:27:24,164 --> 00:27:27,122 as a victim of physical and sexual abuse. 589 00:27:27,123 --> 00:27:29,124 How is that relevant to this case? 590 00:27:29,125 --> 00:27:30,473 Mr. Price has a point. 591 00:27:30,474 --> 00:27:31,997 What does a psychologist's opinion 592 00:27:31,998 --> 00:27:33,563 have to do with this matter? 593 00:27:33,564 --> 00:27:35,914 Well, the People are required to prove that my client 594 00:27:35,915 --> 00:27:37,698 ignored an unjustifiable risk 595 00:27:37,699 --> 00:27:39,613 that someone's death would occur. 596 00:27:39,614 --> 00:27:43,051 I'd like to tell the jury why she failed to act. 597 00:27:43,052 --> 00:27:44,662 Context is important. 598 00:27:44,663 --> 00:27:46,664 It cuts to the very core of our defense. 599 00:27:46,665 --> 00:27:50,058 The defendant's reasons have no legal significance. 600 00:27:50,059 --> 00:27:51,320 This is just a veiled attempt 601 00:27:51,321 --> 00:27:53,323 to elicit sympathy from the jury. 602 00:27:54,847 --> 00:27:57,326 I'll allow counsel to conduct a voir dire 603 00:27:57,327 --> 00:27:59,067 outside of the presence of the jury 604 00:27:59,068 --> 00:28:01,113 to see what this witness has to say. 605 00:28:01,114 --> 00:28:03,246 I'll issue my decision afterwards. 606 00:28:06,859 --> 00:28:11,036 Dr. Mankin, did you conduct a forensic evaluation 607 00:28:11,037 --> 00:28:13,255 of the defendant? - I did. 608 00:28:13,256 --> 00:28:15,344 She reported that she was in a physically 609 00:28:15,345 --> 00:28:17,129 and emotionally abusive marriage. 610 00:28:17,130 --> 00:28:20,698 Did she describe specific instances of violence? 611 00:28:20,699 --> 00:28:24,614 A fractured eye socket, a broken ankle, a concussion, 612 00:28:24,615 --> 00:28:28,270 and numerous bruises and cuts. 613 00:28:28,271 --> 00:28:30,708 Did she tell you about her childhood? 614 00:28:30,709 --> 00:28:33,275 Do I have to sit here and listen to this? 615 00:28:33,276 --> 00:28:35,103 Your lawyer asked for this hearing. 616 00:28:35,104 --> 00:28:36,715 Please control your client. 617 00:28:40,283 --> 00:28:43,111 Please answer the question. 618 00:28:43,112 --> 00:28:44,852 When she was nine years old, 619 00:28:44,853 --> 00:28:46,985 Michelle was the victim of sexual abuse 620 00:28:46,986 --> 00:28:48,856 at the hands of an uncle. 621 00:28:48,857 --> 00:28:50,031 Did that surprise you? 622 00:28:50,032 --> 00:28:51,293 No. 623 00:28:51,294 --> 00:28:52,599 Children who are raised in abusive homes 624 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,167 are six times more likely to find themselves 625 00:28:55,168 --> 00:28:57,735 in abusive relationships as adults. 626 00:28:57,736 --> 00:28:58,953 Why is that? 627 00:28:58,954 --> 00:29:00,738 For women like Michelle, 628 00:29:00,739 --> 00:29:04,481 abuse becomes their definition of love. 629 00:29:05,787 --> 00:29:06,787 Thank you. 630 00:29:06,788 --> 00:29:08,747 Nothing further. 631 00:29:10,313 --> 00:29:12,401 Cross-examination? 632 00:29:12,402 --> 00:29:14,752 Did the defendant ever report any of this abuse? 633 00:29:14,753 --> 00:29:16,797 When she was a child, she told her parents, 634 00:29:16,798 --> 00:29:19,800 but they didn't believe her, and that was shattering. 635 00:29:19,801 --> 00:29:22,411 It reinforced her sense of powerlessness. 636 00:29:22,412 --> 00:29:25,763 While the defendant may have been suffering, 637 00:29:25,764 --> 00:29:28,287 wasn't she still capable of protecting her daughter? 638 00:29:28,288 --> 00:29:31,943 I believe Michelle suffers from dissociative disorder. 639 00:29:31,944 --> 00:29:34,467 Her survival depends on her ability 640 00:29:34,468 --> 00:29:36,904 to disengage emotionally. 641 00:29:36,905 --> 00:29:40,473 As a result, she lost her ability to recognize danger, 642 00:29:40,474 --> 00:29:43,650 along with her maternal instincts of protection. 643 00:29:43,651 --> 00:29:46,131 You're not saying she's legally insane, are you? 644 00:29:46,132 --> 00:29:48,089 No, I'm not saying that. 645 00:29:48,090 --> 00:29:49,961 Thank you. Nothing further. 646 00:29:49,962 --> 00:29:51,919 You are excused. 647 00:29:55,489 --> 00:30:00,449 While what Ms. Burns is alleging is tragic, 648 00:30:00,450 --> 00:30:04,018 it is clearly not relevant to this case. 649 00:30:04,019 --> 00:30:05,890 And as such, the law requires 650 00:30:05,891 --> 00:30:08,806 that you deny the defendant's motion. 651 00:30:08,807 --> 00:30:11,634 Respectfully, the defense has the right 652 00:30:11,635 --> 00:30:13,767 to present a full and complete picture 653 00:30:13,768 --> 00:30:16,117 of what happened-- more specifically, 654 00:30:16,118 --> 00:30:17,772 why this happened. 655 00:30:20,122 --> 00:30:23,255 I agree with Mr. Price. 656 00:30:23,256 --> 00:30:26,301 But Your Honor, as a woman, how can you possibly-- 657 00:30:26,302 --> 00:30:27,607 Don't go there, Counsel. 658 00:30:27,608 --> 00:30:29,827 My decision is based on the law. 659 00:30:29,828 --> 00:30:32,699 And I find that the defendant's state of mind 660 00:30:32,700 --> 00:30:35,702 has no legal significance in this case. 661 00:30:35,703 --> 00:30:38,661 Therefore, the defendant's motion is denied. 662 00:30:38,662 --> 00:30:42,970 Dr. Mankin will not be allowed in this trial. 663 00:30:42,971 --> 00:30:44,363 We're adjourned. 664 00:30:44,364 --> 00:30:45,973 I'll see you all here tomorrow morning. 665 00:30:52,328 --> 00:30:53,894 I'm not sure about this. 666 00:30:53,895 --> 00:30:55,504 Sure about what? 667 00:30:55,505 --> 00:30:59,508 Leaving this evidence out or even prosecuting Michelle. 668 00:30:59,509 --> 00:31:01,946 She's a victim, Nolan. 669 00:31:09,650 --> 00:31:10,998 Hey. 670 00:31:10,999 --> 00:31:13,087 I've subpoenaed Michelle's medical records. 671 00:31:13,088 --> 00:31:15,350 They corroborate the psychologist's testimony. 672 00:31:15,351 --> 00:31:17,483 In the last ten years, Michelle was treated 673 00:31:17,484 --> 00:31:19,746 for a broken ankle, fractured eye socket, 674 00:31:19,747 --> 00:31:21,313 and a concussion. 675 00:31:21,314 --> 00:31:23,358 I also found a police report from Westport, Connecticut, 676 00:31:23,359 --> 00:31:26,187 where Michelle and Ron used to live. 677 00:31:26,188 --> 00:31:29,190 Shows she called 911 to report domestic violence. 678 00:31:29,191 --> 00:31:31,105 Withdrew her complaint a week later. 679 00:31:31,106 --> 00:31:33,934 Well, there was also a report from Cleveland, 680 00:31:33,935 --> 00:31:35,283 where Michelle grew up. 681 00:31:35,284 --> 00:31:37,503 Teacher suspected there was abuse in the home. 682 00:31:37,504 --> 00:31:40,027 I don't dispute that the abuse happened 683 00:31:40,028 --> 00:31:42,944 and that it's horrific. 684 00:31:45,512 --> 00:31:47,121 Jesus. 685 00:31:47,122 --> 00:31:49,950 It also certainly explains why Michelle would stay with a man 686 00:31:49,951 --> 00:31:51,517 who was abusing her daughter. 687 00:31:51,518 --> 00:31:53,171 Yeah. 688 00:31:53,172 --> 00:31:55,390 But the fact remains, Michelle Burns 689 00:31:55,391 --> 00:31:57,653 had an obligation to protect her kid, 690 00:31:57,654 --> 00:31:59,307 and she did the exact opposite. 691 00:31:59,308 --> 00:32:02,049 She wasn't capable of helping. 692 00:32:02,050 --> 00:32:04,095 She was fighting for her own survival. 693 00:32:04,096 --> 00:32:05,444 You're right about that, 694 00:32:05,445 --> 00:32:09,013 but she let her husband abuse Kaitlyn for years. 695 00:32:09,014 --> 00:32:10,971 And if that weren't enough, she told 696 00:32:10,972 --> 00:32:12,973 a violent, sexually abusive man that 697 00:32:12,974 --> 00:32:14,627 he was about to be exposed as a pedophile, 698 00:32:14,628 --> 00:32:17,456 which directly led to her child's death. 699 00:32:17,457 --> 00:32:21,547 She was more a perpetrator than victim in this instance anyway. 700 00:32:21,548 --> 00:32:24,550 What kind of precedent would it be setting 701 00:32:24,551 --> 00:32:26,508 if we gave her a pass? 702 00:32:26,509 --> 00:32:28,989 Society demands that people in positions of power 703 00:32:28,990 --> 00:32:30,512 protect those who have none. 704 00:32:30,513 --> 00:32:31,992 Parents are the ones who hold that power. 705 00:32:31,993 --> 00:32:33,689 Yeah, I agree. 706 00:32:33,690 --> 00:32:35,822 But it doesn't mean that we don't have an obligation 707 00:32:35,823 --> 00:32:37,389 to protect Michelle too. 708 00:32:37,390 --> 00:32:40,174 She's an adult. Kaitlyn was a kid, a teenager. 709 00:32:40,175 --> 00:32:42,437 In case of a tie, Michelle loses. 710 00:32:42,438 --> 00:32:44,744 Sorry. 711 00:32:44,745 --> 00:32:46,528 Move forward with the trial. 712 00:32:56,713 --> 00:32:59,324 Lieutenant Brady, did you speak with the defendant? 713 00:32:59,325 --> 00:33:01,195 I did. 714 00:33:01,196 --> 00:33:05,156 And she told me she was aware that her husband had been 715 00:33:05,157 --> 00:33:07,245 sexually abusing her daughter and that the abuse 716 00:33:07,246 --> 00:33:08,768 had gone on for several years. 717 00:33:08,769 --> 00:33:11,858 And did the defendant tell her husband that Kaitlyn 718 00:33:11,859 --> 00:33:14,382 was going to expose him? - She did. 719 00:33:14,383 --> 00:33:17,342 And less than 24 hours later, Kaitlyn was dead. 720 00:33:17,343 --> 00:33:19,953 Thank you. Nothing further. 721 00:33:19,954 --> 00:33:21,434 Cross-examination? 722 00:33:24,393 --> 00:33:27,569 My client didn't kill anyone. 723 00:33:27,570 --> 00:33:28,657 Fair to say? 724 00:33:28,658 --> 00:33:31,008 Fair to say. 725 00:33:31,009 --> 00:33:33,227 In fact, my client wasn't present 726 00:33:33,228 --> 00:33:34,620 when Kaitlyn died, was she? 727 00:33:34,621 --> 00:33:36,187 Objection, relevance? 728 00:33:36,188 --> 00:33:38,364 Overruled. You may answer. 729 00:33:40,975 --> 00:33:42,628 I don't believe she was, no. 730 00:33:42,629 --> 00:33:45,587 The person who actually did kill Kaitlyn, 731 00:33:45,588 --> 00:33:47,111 Ron Lawson, shot himself. 732 00:33:47,112 --> 00:33:49,417 So he's gone. 733 00:33:49,418 --> 00:33:52,638 And now you and Mr. Price are trying to compound this tragedy 734 00:33:52,639 --> 00:33:54,205 by blaming it on his wife. 735 00:33:54,206 --> 00:33:55,510 Objection, argumentative. 736 00:33:55,511 --> 00:33:57,599 Withdrawn. 737 00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:58,645 Nothing further. 738 00:34:04,172 --> 00:34:06,652 I love my daughter very much. 739 00:34:07,958 --> 00:34:11,092 More than I can even-- 740 00:34:17,272 --> 00:34:23,148 And I tried very hard to protect her. 741 00:34:25,324 --> 00:34:28,108 I know it wasn't enough, but I tried. 742 00:34:28,109 --> 00:34:31,894 Tell the jury what you mean by that. 743 00:34:31,895 --> 00:34:38,075 I taught Kaitlyn to be a strong, independent woman. 744 00:34:38,076 --> 00:34:41,382 I took her to self-defense classes. 745 00:34:41,383 --> 00:34:45,038 I--I helped her become financially independent. 746 00:34:45,039 --> 00:34:49,261 I--I talked to her about her sex, about her body. 747 00:34:51,437 --> 00:34:55,875 And when I became aware of what 748 00:34:55,876 --> 00:35:02,403 was going on with Ron, I-- 749 00:35:02,404 --> 00:35:07,756 I encouraged her to move out of the house as soon as possible. 750 00:35:07,757 --> 00:35:09,715 But you were having your own problems. 751 00:35:09,716 --> 00:35:10,933 Objection. 752 00:35:10,934 --> 00:35:12,109 Sustained. 753 00:35:12,110 --> 00:35:15,242 We've been through this, Ms. Hogan. 754 00:35:15,243 --> 00:35:17,636 Your witness. 755 00:35:17,637 --> 00:35:20,029 Cross-examination? 756 00:35:20,030 --> 00:35:22,075 After your husband was arrested 757 00:35:22,076 --> 00:35:24,208 for killing your daughter, 758 00:35:24,209 --> 00:35:26,166 you posted his bail, didn't you? 759 00:35:29,170 --> 00:35:31,693 - Yes. - He was in custody. 760 00:35:31,694 --> 00:35:34,480 He was behind bars. And you helped him get out? 761 00:35:36,873 --> 00:35:38,352 I did. 762 00:35:38,353 --> 00:35:43,705 You also helped him create a false alibi? 763 00:35:43,706 --> 00:35:45,403 Yes. 764 00:35:45,404 --> 00:35:50,799 I know that this won't make any sense, but I was afraid. 765 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:52,366 And so I did what he said 766 00:35:52,367 --> 00:35:53,759 because that's the way it's always been. 767 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:55,935 Because if I disappointed him, he became violent! 768 00:35:55,936 --> 00:35:58,459 - Your Honor. - Next question. 769 00:35:58,460 --> 00:36:02,594 You have made several very successful films, haven't you? 770 00:36:02,595 --> 00:36:03,856 I suppose. 771 00:36:03,857 --> 00:36:06,206 One of your movies is about a young woman 772 00:36:06,207 --> 00:36:08,208 who was abused by a family member. 773 00:36:08,209 --> 00:36:10,036 Objection, relevance. 774 00:36:10,037 --> 00:36:11,211 Overruled. 775 00:36:11,212 --> 00:36:12,605 Please answer. 776 00:36:14,955 --> 00:36:17,304 It was an exploration 777 00:36:17,305 --> 00:36:19,741 in a complicated family relationship. 778 00:36:19,742 --> 00:36:23,441 In that movie, the daughter is hurt so badly, 779 00:36:23,442 --> 00:36:25,138 she dies, doesn't she? 780 00:36:25,139 --> 00:36:27,358 Objection. Where is he going with this? 781 00:36:27,359 --> 00:36:29,664 The People are required to prove that the defendant 782 00:36:29,665 --> 00:36:32,276 consciously disregarded a substantial risk to her child, 783 00:36:32,277 --> 00:36:34,016 knowing that death could result. 784 00:36:34,017 --> 00:36:36,454 I'm simply trying to establish that the defendant was aware 785 00:36:36,455 --> 00:36:38,934 of the risk involved in not reporting her husband's abuse 786 00:36:38,935 --> 00:36:41,372 because she made a film about it. 787 00:36:41,373 --> 00:36:43,112 The objection is overruled. 788 00:36:43,113 --> 00:36:44,679 Please answer. 789 00:36:50,208 --> 00:36:52,818 In the film, the daughter dies. 790 00:36:52,819 --> 00:36:57,083 In your home, your husband's abuse of your daughter 791 00:36:57,084 --> 00:37:00,304 went on for years, didn't it? 792 00:37:00,305 --> 00:37:01,783 Unfortunately. 793 00:37:01,784 --> 00:37:03,611 And you told your husband that Kaitlyn 794 00:37:03,612 --> 00:37:05,483 was going to expose him, didn't you? 795 00:37:05,484 --> 00:37:06,701 Yes. 796 00:37:06,702 --> 00:37:09,704 And 24 hours later, she was dead. 797 00:37:09,705 --> 00:37:13,230 Did I get that right? - I-- 798 00:37:13,231 --> 00:37:15,233 I made a mistake. 799 00:37:17,713 --> 00:37:20,846 I made a mistake. 800 00:37:20,847 --> 00:37:25,329 I wish I could do it all over again, 801 00:37:25,330 --> 00:37:28,070 be a different person, a stronger person. 802 00:37:28,071 --> 00:37:29,681 But I wasn't, and I didn't. 803 00:37:29,682 --> 00:37:31,900 And I have to live with that for the rest of my life. 804 00:37:31,901 --> 00:37:34,033 I'm afraid you do. 805 00:37:34,034 --> 00:37:35,991 I have nothing further. 806 00:37:42,999 --> 00:37:46,350 Nolan. 807 00:37:46,351 --> 00:37:48,830 What you did in there, using her film 808 00:37:48,831 --> 00:37:49,918 against her in that way? 809 00:37:49,919 --> 00:37:51,050 That was fair game, Sam. 810 00:37:51,051 --> 00:37:53,313 No, no, that was legal. 811 00:37:53,314 --> 00:37:55,968 But it wasn't fair. 812 00:37:55,969 --> 00:37:57,622 I-- 813 00:37:57,623 --> 00:38:00,059 you're the one who always says trials are supposed 814 00:38:00,060 --> 00:38:01,756 to be a search for the truth. 815 00:38:01,757 --> 00:38:04,716 So please tell me how the hell the jury is supposed to 816 00:38:04,717 --> 00:38:07,849 make a decision about Michelle, about this case 817 00:38:07,850 --> 00:38:10,330 when they don't have all the facts, 818 00:38:10,331 --> 00:38:12,767 when they don't actually know the truth. 819 00:38:12,768 --> 00:38:17,511 The jury decides what is and isn't true based on the facts, 820 00:38:17,512 --> 00:38:20,427 on the relevant facts. 821 00:38:20,428 --> 00:38:25,345 I respect that you are a man of principle, 822 00:38:25,346 --> 00:38:26,999 but I have my principles too. 823 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:31,569 Well, then we'll just have to agree to disagree. 824 00:38:31,570 --> 00:38:32,614 No. 825 00:38:37,358 --> 00:38:39,707 Do you really think that you know more 826 00:38:39,708 --> 00:38:43,929 about domestic violence than I do? 827 00:38:43,930 --> 00:38:47,367 I--I have counseled victims. 828 00:38:47,368 --> 00:38:49,326 I've volunteered at shelters. 829 00:38:49,327 --> 00:38:51,893 I studied the psychological impact of trauma. 830 00:38:51,894 --> 00:38:55,593 And there's my sister, who died at the hands of an abuser. 831 00:38:55,594 --> 00:38:59,379 So please don't tell me what Michelle should have done 832 00:38:59,380 --> 00:39:01,642 or what she was legally required to do. 833 00:39:01,643 --> 00:39:03,862 She spent most of her life being abused. 834 00:39:03,863 --> 00:39:06,560 And the truth is, Nolan, she wasn't 835 00:39:06,561 --> 00:39:09,433 capable of protecting herself, let alone her daughter. 836 00:39:09,434 --> 00:39:12,697 And there is no punishment in the world 837 00:39:12,698 --> 00:39:14,351 that is going to change that. 838 00:39:17,398 --> 00:39:19,399 Now, if you don't respect my opinion 839 00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:22,533 when it comes to this issue, 840 00:39:22,534 --> 00:39:26,014 then I don't know what the hell I'm doing in this office. 841 00:39:30,759 --> 00:39:32,238 What do you mean, you wanna cut a deal? 842 00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:33,587 We've been through this. 843 00:39:33,588 --> 00:39:36,373 We agreed Michelle Burns failed in her duty 844 00:39:36,374 --> 00:39:38,113 to protect her child. 845 00:39:38,114 --> 00:39:39,377 I'm having second thoughts. 846 00:39:41,901 --> 00:39:45,251 Sam has been pretty passionate in her defense 847 00:39:45,252 --> 00:39:48,036 of Michelle Burns, and... 848 00:39:48,037 --> 00:39:49,603 I'm starting to see her point of view. 849 00:39:49,604 --> 00:39:52,780 I'm not so sure that sending an abuse victim to prison 850 00:39:52,781 --> 00:39:55,522 for 15 years is the right call. 851 00:39:55,523 --> 00:39:57,524 Neither am I. 852 00:39:57,525 --> 00:39:59,961 But I have to look at the big picture. 853 00:39:59,962 --> 00:40:03,443 There are larger societal implications here. 854 00:40:03,444 --> 00:40:05,967 You're right. 855 00:40:05,968 --> 00:40:09,449 But let's face it, Nick, Sam knows more about these issues 856 00:40:09,450 --> 00:40:11,233 than we do. 857 00:40:11,234 --> 00:40:14,367 Maybe it's time for us to start listening to her, 858 00:40:14,368 --> 00:40:18,415 instead of telling her why she's wrong. 859 00:40:26,336 --> 00:40:28,816 Your Honor, the defendant has agreed to plead guilty, 860 00:40:28,817 --> 00:40:30,688 and we have a sentencing recommendation 861 00:40:30,689 --> 00:40:32,472 for the court's consideration. 862 00:40:32,473 --> 00:40:33,647 I'll hear it. 863 00:40:33,648 --> 00:40:35,475 The defendant will admit to so much 864 00:40:35,476 --> 00:40:37,477 of the complaint that alleges endangering 865 00:40:37,478 --> 00:40:38,913 the welfare of a child, 866 00:40:38,914 --> 00:40:41,220 and she will serve one year in jail, 867 00:40:41,221 --> 00:40:44,179 followed by three years of post-release supervision. 868 00:40:44,180 --> 00:40:45,834 Defense? 869 00:40:48,141 --> 00:40:49,663 We have agreed to the terms. 870 00:40:49,664 --> 00:40:53,450 Okay, Ms. Burns, I will accept your change of plea 871 00:40:53,451 --> 00:40:56,235 and sentence you to one year in jail. 872 00:40:56,236 --> 00:40:57,845 Court is adjourned. 873 00:41:10,163 --> 00:41:14,209 Thank you for hearing me. 63177

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