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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:19,132 --> 00:00:24,733 JOHN MUSGRAVE: I was assigned a listening post at Con Thien in the fall. 2 00:00:24,832 --> 00:00:28,733 That was like getting a death sentence at a trial. 3 00:00:28,832 --> 00:00:31,165 Because that's just three Marines out there with a radio. 4 00:00:32,633 --> 00:00:34,265 And that's the scariest thing I did. 5 00:00:34,365 --> 00:00:37,066 You're listening for the enemy. 6 00:00:37,165 --> 00:00:40,199 They call you on the radio every hour, 7 00:00:40,300 --> 00:00:41,633 "Delta, Lima, Papa, Three, Bravo, 8 00:00:41,733 --> 00:00:45,033 "Delta, Lima, Papa, Three, Bravo, this is Delta Three. 9 00:00:45,133 --> 00:00:48,199 "lf your sit rep is alpha sierra, key your handset twice. 10 00:00:49,665 --> 00:00:51,265 "lf your situation report is all secure, 11 00:00:51,365 --> 00:00:52,966 break squelch twice on the handset." 12 00:00:55,066 --> 00:00:57,066 And if it's not, they keep thinking you're asleep 13 00:00:57,165 --> 00:00:59,699 so they keep asking you, "If your sit rep is alpha sierra," 14 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:01,133 And then it finally dawns on them 15 00:01:01,233 --> 00:01:03,765 maybe there's somebody too close for you to say anything. 16 00:01:03,865 --> 00:01:06,800 So then they say, "If your sit rep is negative alpha sierra, 17 00:01:06,900 --> 00:01:08,265 key your handset once," 18 00:01:08,365 --> 00:01:10,308 And you damn near squeeze the handle off the, you know, 19 00:01:10,332 --> 00:01:13,466 and two on the radio because they're so close 20 00:01:13,566 --> 00:01:15,599 that you can hear them whispering to one another. 21 00:01:18,032 --> 00:01:19,432 And that's scary stuff. 22 00:01:19,532 --> 00:01:20,699 That's real scary stuff. 23 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:24,432 And I'm scared of the dark, still. 24 00:01:24,532 --> 00:01:27,365 I still got a night light. 25 00:01:27,466 --> 00:01:30,665 When my kids were growing up, 26 00:01:30,765 --> 00:01:34,400 that's the first time they really found out 27 00:01:34,500 --> 00:01:36,566 that Daddy'd been in a war when they said, 28 00:01:36,665 --> 00:01:39,133 "Well, why do we need to outgrow our night lights? 29 00:01:39,233 --> 00:01:40,599 Daddy's still got one." 30 00:01:47,566 --> 00:01:51,665 JOHN KENNEDY: Let the word go forth from this time and place, 31 00:01:51,765 --> 00:01:54,599 to friend and foe alike, 32 00:01:54,699 --> 00:01:58,800 that the torch has been passed to a new generation 33 00:01:58,900 --> 00:02:05,566 of Americans born in this century, tempered by war, 34 00:02:05,665 --> 00:02:09,265 disciplined by a hard and bitter peace, 35 00:02:09,365 --> 00:02:10,733 proud of our... 36 00:02:10,832 --> 00:02:12,599 JACK TODD: I still believed, very much, 37 00:02:12,699 --> 00:02:17,365 in this concept of an heroic America, 38 00:02:17,466 --> 00:02:20,099 America being a really special country, 39 00:02:20,199 --> 00:02:23,365 the best country in the world, the best democracy, 40 00:02:23,466 --> 00:02:27,400 all the things that we believe about it, which... 41 00:02:27,500 --> 00:02:29,600 and I didn't really see anything wrong with that. 42 00:02:32,332 --> 00:02:36,832 I was sure that we were right to be in Vietnam. 43 00:02:36,932 --> 00:02:39,065 You know, because it started under Kennedy 44 00:02:39,165 --> 00:02:41,600 and, to me, JFK was God. 45 00:02:41,699 --> 00:02:45,066 Anything that he thought was right, I thought was right. 46 00:02:47,332 --> 00:02:51,432 NARRATOR: At 43, John Fitzgerald Kennedy was the youngest man 47 00:02:51,533 --> 00:02:55,066 ever elected president of the United States. 48 00:02:55,165 --> 00:02:57,533 He had promised bold new leadership, 49 00:02:57,632 --> 00:03:00,966 and to his supporters his inauguration seemed to signal 50 00:03:01,066 --> 00:03:03,800 a new day. 51 00:03:03,899 --> 00:03:06,832 To those new states whom we welcome 52 00:03:06,932 --> 00:03:09,733 to the ranks of the free, 53 00:03:09,832 --> 00:03:15,766 we pledge our word that one form of colonial control 54 00:03:15,865 --> 00:03:18,300 shall not have passed away 55 00:03:18,399 --> 00:03:23,533 merely to be replaced by a far more iron tyranny. 56 00:03:23,632 --> 00:03:28,733 We shall not always expect to find them supporting our view. 57 00:03:28,832 --> 00:03:33,266 But we shall always hope to find them strongly supporting 58 00:03:33,365 --> 00:03:38,733 their own freedom and to remember that, in the past, 59 00:03:38,832 --> 00:03:42,199 those who foolishly sought power 60 00:03:42,300 --> 00:03:46,566 by riding the back of the tiger ended up inside. 61 00:03:54,932 --> 00:03:57,199 NARRATOR: The new president gathered around him 62 00:03:57,300 --> 00:04:01,100 an extraordinary set of advisors who shared his determination 63 00:04:01,199 --> 00:04:06,199 to confront communism, including Secretary of State Dean Rusk, 64 00:04:06,300 --> 00:04:10,033 National Security Advisor McGeorge Bundy, 65 00:04:10,132 --> 00:04:12,766 his deputy Walt Rostow, 66 00:04:12,865 --> 00:04:17,233 special military advisor General Maxwell Taylor, 67 00:04:17,333 --> 00:04:20,865 and Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara, 68 00:04:20,966 --> 00:04:22,533 who had given up his post 69 00:04:22,632 --> 00:04:26,565 as president of the Ford Motor Company to serve his country. 70 00:04:26,665 --> 00:04:32,665 He was a pioneer in the field of systems analysis. 71 00:04:32,766 --> 00:04:35,565 Like the president who picked them, 72 00:04:35,665 --> 00:04:39,766 all of Kennedy's men had served during World War II. 73 00:04:39,865 --> 00:04:42,100 Each had absorbed what they all believed 74 00:04:42,199 --> 00:04:44,065 was its central lesson: 75 00:04:44,165 --> 00:04:48,165 Ambitious dictatorships needed to be halted in their tracks 76 00:04:48,266 --> 00:04:51,432 before they constituted a serious danger 77 00:04:51,533 --> 00:04:53,566 to the peace of the world. 78 00:04:53,665 --> 00:04:56,832 Meanwhile, in South Vietnam, 79 00:04:56,932 --> 00:04:58,932 the National Liberation Front... 80 00:04:59,033 --> 00:05:01,899 labeled by its enemies the Viet Cong... 81 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:04,266 was determined to overthrow 82 00:05:04,365 --> 00:05:07,432 the anticommunist and increasingly autocratic 83 00:05:07,533 --> 00:05:10,733 government of Ngo Dinh Diem. 84 00:05:10,832 --> 00:05:14,899 In North Vietnam, unbeknownst to Washington, 85 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:18,899 Ho Chi Minh, the father of Vietnamese independence, 86 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:22,199 was now sharing power with a more aggressive leader, 87 00:05:22,300 --> 00:05:25,199 Le Duan, who was even more impatient 88 00:05:25,300 --> 00:05:27,699 to reunify his country. 89 00:05:29,132 --> 00:05:30,766 BAO NINH: 90 00:05:47,966 --> 00:05:51,466 LESLIE GELB: None of us knew anything about Vietnam. 91 00:05:51,566 --> 00:05:55,665 Vietnam in those days was a piece on a chessboard, 92 00:05:55,766 --> 00:05:57,832 a strategic chessboard, 93 00:05:57,932 --> 00:06:01,800 not a place with a culture and a history 94 00:06:01,899 --> 00:06:07,365 that we would have an impossible time changing, 95 00:06:07,466 --> 00:06:10,332 even with the mighty force of the United States. 96 00:06:10,432 --> 00:06:15,033 NARRATOR: Over the next three years, the United States would struggle 97 00:06:15,132 --> 00:06:19,533 to understand the complicated country it had come to save, 98 00:06:19,632 --> 00:06:22,699 fail to appreciate the enemy's resolve, 99 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:26,432 and misread how the South Vietnamese people really felt 100 00:06:26,533 --> 00:06:28,500 about their government. 101 00:06:30,399 --> 00:06:32,600 The new president would find himself caught 102 00:06:32,699 --> 00:06:37,266 between the momentum of war and the desire for peace, 103 00:06:37,365 --> 00:06:40,332 between humility and hubris, 104 00:06:40,432 --> 00:06:46,798 between idealism and expediency, between the truth and a lie. 105 00:07:07,033 --> 00:07:10,200 KENNEDY: And so, my fellow Americans, 106 00:07:10,299 --> 00:07:15,365 ask not what your country can do for you, 107 00:07:15,466 --> 00:07:17,765 ask what you can do for your country. 108 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:28,466 MUSGRAVE: I grew up in Missouri, near Kansas City, 109 00:07:28,566 --> 00:07:31,633 a little community called Fairmount. 110 00:07:31,732 --> 00:07:33,166 I was born in 1948. 111 00:07:33,265 --> 00:07:35,765 And there were lots of kids being born in those days 112 00:07:35,865 --> 00:07:37,476 from the guys who were lucky enough to come home 113 00:07:37,500 --> 00:07:38,500 from World War II. 114 00:07:39,732 --> 00:07:43,066 My dad was a pilot in the Army Air Corps. 115 00:07:43,166 --> 00:07:45,865 And all of dad's friends 116 00:07:45,966 --> 00:07:49,000 were World War Il vets or Korean vets. 117 00:07:49,100 --> 00:07:51,700 And all of my male teachers were veterans. 118 00:07:51,799 --> 00:07:54,200 And even my pastor had been a chaplain. 119 00:07:55,732 --> 00:08:00,533 Well, they were my heroes, and l wanted to be like them. 120 00:08:07,566 --> 00:08:10,432 NARRATOR: For all of John Kennedy's soaring rhetoric, 121 00:08:10,533 --> 00:08:13,100 for all the talent he gathered around him, 122 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:16,432 the first months of his presidency did not go well. 123 00:08:16,533 --> 00:08:20,865 He approved a CIA-sponsored invasion of Cuba 124 00:08:20,966 --> 00:08:25,432 at the Bay of Pigs that ended in disaster. 125 00:08:25,533 --> 00:08:27,332 He felt he'd been bullied 126 00:08:27,432 --> 00:08:29,765 by Soviet premier Nikita Khrushchev 127 00:08:29,865 --> 00:08:32,133 at a summit meeting in Vienna. 128 00:08:32,232 --> 00:08:34,500 He was unable to keep the Soviets 129 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:36,865 from building the Berlin Wall. 130 00:08:36,966 --> 00:08:41,100 And in Southeast Asia, he refused to intervene 131 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:44,332 against a communist insurrection in Laos. 132 00:08:44,432 --> 00:08:48,966 Critics accused him of being immature, indecisive, 133 00:08:49,066 --> 00:08:52,665 inadequate to the task of combating what seemed to be 134 00:08:52,765 --> 00:08:55,165 a mounting communist threat. 135 00:08:55,265 --> 00:08:58,700 "There are just so many concessions that we can make 136 00:08:58,799 --> 00:09:01,200 in one year and survive politically," 137 00:09:01,299 --> 00:09:05,966 He confided to an aide in the spring of 1961. 138 00:09:06,066 --> 00:09:11,299 In South Vietnam, Kennedy felt he had to act. 139 00:09:11,399 --> 00:09:14,066 After the president received reports 140 00:09:14,166 --> 00:09:16,633 that the Viet Cong might be in control 141 00:09:16,732 --> 00:09:20,666 of more than half the densely populated Mekong Delta, 142 00:09:20,765 --> 00:09:24,765 he dispatched General Maxwell Taylor and Walt Rostow 143 00:09:24,865 --> 00:09:26,932 to Vietnam. 144 00:09:27,033 --> 00:09:30,765 They urged him to commit American ground troops. 145 00:09:30,865 --> 00:09:32,432 Kennedy refused. 146 00:09:32,533 --> 00:09:36,166 It would be like taking a first drink, he said... 147 00:09:36,265 --> 00:09:39,332 the effect would soon wear off and there would be demands 148 00:09:39,432 --> 00:09:42,765 for another and another and another. 149 00:09:42,865 --> 00:09:46,232 Instead, in the midst of a cold war, 150 00:09:46,332 --> 00:09:49,500 with its constant risk of nuclear confrontation, 151 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:52,832 the president supported a new "flexible" way 152 00:09:52,932 --> 00:09:58,399 to confront and contain communism: limited war. 153 00:09:58,500 --> 00:10:03,200 This is another type of warfare, new in its intensity, 154 00:10:03,299 --> 00:10:05,832 ancient in its origin... 155 00:10:05,932 --> 00:10:10,765 war by guerrillas, subversives, insurgents, assassins; 156 00:10:10,865 --> 00:10:15,265 War by ambush instead of by combat; 157 00:10:15,365 --> 00:10:17,899 By infiltration instead of aggression. 158 00:10:19,633 --> 00:10:22,033 NARRATOR: To fight his "limited wars," 159 00:10:22,133 --> 00:10:25,000 Kennedy hoped to use the elite Green Berets, 160 00:10:25,100 --> 00:10:28,566 special forces trained in guerrilla warfare, 161 00:10:28,666 --> 00:10:31,200 counterinsurgency. 162 00:10:31,299 --> 00:10:36,000 They were meant to be dispatched to hotspots around the world. 163 00:10:36,100 --> 00:10:38,832 ROBERT RHEAULT: Khrushchev said, "We're not going to destroy you 164 00:10:38,932 --> 00:10:40,332 with nuclear weapons, 165 00:10:40,432 --> 00:10:43,466 we're going to destroy you with wars of national liberation." 166 00:10:43,566 --> 00:10:45,466 Everybody talked about the fact 167 00:10:45,566 --> 00:10:50,232 that communism was spreading and it had to be stopped. 168 00:10:50,332 --> 00:10:53,000 You went to Command and General Staff College 169 00:10:53,100 --> 00:10:56,600 and you were playing on maps with nuclear weapons 170 00:10:56,700 --> 00:10:58,299 and so forth. 171 00:10:58,399 --> 00:11:03,265 And I escaped from that by getting into Special Forces. 172 00:11:03,365 --> 00:11:06,000 So that instead of planning what we were going to do 173 00:11:06,100 --> 00:11:11,033 if World War Ill broke out, we were actually doing stuff. 174 00:11:12,566 --> 00:11:16,000 And Vietnam was a place where we were going to draw the line. 175 00:11:17,666 --> 00:11:19,365 NARRATOR: Kennedy sent the Green Berets 176 00:11:19,466 --> 00:11:21,700 to the Central Highlands of Vietnam 177 00:11:21,799 --> 00:11:25,365 to organize mountain tribes to fight the Viet Cong 178 00:11:25,466 --> 00:11:30,133 and to undertake covert missions to sabotage their supply bases 179 00:11:30,232 --> 00:11:33,232 in Laos and Cambodia. 180 00:11:33,332 --> 00:11:37,765 But Kennedy understood that counterinsurgency alone 181 00:11:37,865 --> 00:11:38,932 would never be enough, 182 00:11:39,033 --> 00:11:42,466 so he doubled funding for South Vietnam's army, 183 00:11:42,566 --> 00:11:47,832 dispatched helicopters and APCs, armored personnel carriers. 184 00:11:50,832 --> 00:11:54,566 Kennedy also authorized the use of napalm 185 00:11:54,665 --> 00:11:59,100 and the spraying of defoliants to deny cover to the Viet Cong 186 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:03,066 and destroy the crops that fed them. 187 00:12:03,165 --> 00:12:06,232 A whole array of chemicals was used, 188 00:12:06,332 --> 00:12:09,700 including one named for the color of the stripes 189 00:12:09,799 --> 00:12:15,799 on the 55-gallon drums in which it came... "Agent Orange." 190 00:12:15,899 --> 00:12:19,399 And the president quietly continued to increase 191 00:12:19,500 --> 00:12:22,365 the number of American military advisors. 192 00:12:22,466 --> 00:12:27,732 Within two years, the number he had inherited would grow 193 00:12:27,832 --> 00:12:31,033 to 11,300, 194 00:12:31,133 --> 00:12:33,600 empowered not only to teach 195 00:12:33,700 --> 00:12:36,633 the Army of the Republic of Vietnam... the ARVN... 196 00:12:36,732 --> 00:12:38,700 to fight a conventional war, 197 00:12:38,799 --> 00:12:40,966 but to accompany them into battle, 198 00:12:41,066 --> 00:12:44,500 a violation of the agreement that had divided Vietnam 199 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:45,600 back in 1954. 200 00:12:49,332 --> 00:12:53,299 The administration did its best to hide from the American people 201 00:12:53,399 --> 00:12:55,732 the scale of the buildup that was taking place 202 00:12:55,832 --> 00:12:57,600 on the other side of the world, 203 00:12:57,700 --> 00:13:00,533 fearful that the public would not support 204 00:13:00,633 --> 00:13:07,466 the more active role advisors had begun to play in combat. 205 00:13:07,566 --> 00:13:10,165 Mr. President, a Republican National Committee publication 206 00:13:10,265 --> 00:13:13,566 has said that you are... have been less than candid 207 00:13:13,666 --> 00:13:17,500 with the American people as to how deeply we are involved 208 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:19,399 in Vietnam. 209 00:13:19,500 --> 00:13:22,000 Could you throw any more light on that? 210 00:13:22,100 --> 00:13:24,140 We have increased our assistance to the government, 211 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:25,932 its logistics. 212 00:13:26,033 --> 00:13:27,899 We have not sent combat troops there. 213 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:31,166 Though the training missions that we have there 214 00:13:31,265 --> 00:13:34,033 have been instructed if they are fired upon to... 215 00:13:34,133 --> 00:13:37,000 they are, would of course, fire back, to protect themselves. 216 00:13:37,100 --> 00:13:38,832 But we have not sent combat troops 217 00:13:38,932 --> 00:13:41,200 in the generally understood sense of the word. 218 00:13:41,299 --> 00:13:46,899 So that I-l feel that we are being as frank as the... 219 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:48,165 as we can be. 220 00:13:48,265 --> 00:13:49,799 I think we... what I have said to you 221 00:13:49,899 --> 00:13:52,966 is a description of our activity there. 222 00:13:57,533 --> 00:14:00,966 NEIL SHEEHAN: I was a child of the Cold War. 223 00:14:01,066 --> 00:14:04,533 When I got off the plane in Saigon on a humid evening 224 00:14:04,633 --> 00:14:06,466 in April 1962, 225 00:14:06,566 --> 00:14:10,432 I really believed in all the ideology of the Cold War. 226 00:14:10,533 --> 00:14:11,566 On... 227 00:14:11,665 --> 00:14:14,232 That if we lost South Vietnam, 228 00:14:14,332 --> 00:14:16,772 that the rest of Southeast Asia would fall to the communists. 229 00:14:16,799 --> 00:14:20,600 There was an international communist conspiracy. 230 00:14:20,700 --> 00:14:23,133 We believed fervently in this stuff. 231 00:14:23,232 --> 00:14:27,100 NARRATOR: Neil Sheehan was a 25-year-old reporter 232 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:30,500 for United Press International, UPI. 233 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:34,666 He had served three years in the Army in Korea and Japan 234 00:14:34,765 --> 00:14:37,500 before deciding to become a newspaperman. 235 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:41,799 Vietnam was his first full-time overseas assignment, 236 00:14:41,899 --> 00:14:43,732 and his only worry, he remembered, 237 00:14:43,832 --> 00:14:46,500 was that he would get there too late and miss out 238 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:48,566 on the big story. 239 00:14:48,665 --> 00:14:52,799 Sheehan and other reporters rode along as the ARVN mounted 240 00:14:52,899 --> 00:14:56,399 a series of helicopter assaults on enemy strongholds 241 00:14:56,500 --> 00:14:58,832 in the Mekong Delta and elsewhere 242 00:14:58,932 --> 00:15:02,365 and brought terror to the Viet Cong. 243 00:15:02,466 --> 00:15:05,466 American pilots were at the controls. 244 00:15:05,566 --> 00:15:09,966 SHEEHAN: It was a crusade and it was thrilling. 245 00:15:10,066 --> 00:15:12,566 And you'd climb aboard the helicopters 246 00:15:12,666 --> 00:15:16,000 with the Vietnamese soldiers who were being taken out to battle. 247 00:15:16,100 --> 00:15:17,665 And they'd take off. 248 00:15:17,766 --> 00:15:20,400 And they'd contour-fly, they'd skim across the rice paddies 249 00:15:20,500 --> 00:15:22,665 at about three or four feet above the paddies, 250 00:15:22,766 --> 00:15:26,633 and then pop up over the tree lines that lined the fields. 251 00:15:26,732 --> 00:15:27,900 It was thrilling. 252 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:29,309 I mean it was absolutely thrilling. 253 00:15:29,333 --> 00:15:32,333 And you believed in what was happening. 254 00:15:32,432 --> 00:15:34,500 I mean you had the sense that we're fighting here 255 00:15:34,598 --> 00:15:38,400 and some day we'll win, and this country will be a better, 256 00:15:38,500 --> 00:15:39,700 better country for our coming. 257 00:15:41,500 --> 00:15:44,299 NARRATOR: The new M-113 armored personnel carriers 258 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:48,066 were capable of churning across rivers and rice paddies 259 00:15:48,165 --> 00:15:49,932 and right through the earthen dikes 260 00:15:50,032 --> 00:15:52,333 that separated one field from the next. 261 00:15:53,766 --> 00:15:58,766 The Viet Cong had nothing with which to stop them. 262 00:15:58,865 --> 00:16:04,599 JAMES SCANLON: We were just overwhelming them with force, with firepower. 263 00:16:04,700 --> 00:16:08,000 And the firefights would be over in a pretty short time. 264 00:16:08,099 --> 00:16:10,766 MAN ON RADIO: We have some people running along the dikes. 265 00:16:10,865 --> 00:16:13,799 Actually, the canal is perpendicular 266 00:16:13,900 --> 00:16:15,299 to the one you're attacking now. 267 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:19,266 They have on black uniforms, and l estimate approximately 3-0. 268 00:16:19,365 --> 00:16:21,932 Do you have them in sight? Over. 269 00:16:22,032 --> 00:16:24,232 SCANLON: That's what was causing us to win, see. 270 00:16:24,333 --> 00:16:27,465 And we were winning one after the other. 271 00:16:27,566 --> 00:16:31,133 And we were not meeting a heck of a lot of resistance. 272 00:16:31,232 --> 00:16:34,965 NARRATOR: Captain James Scanlon had been stationed in West Germany 273 00:16:35,066 --> 00:16:38,165 and had seen for himself the brutality with which 274 00:16:38,266 --> 00:16:40,799 the communist East Germans dealt with anyone 275 00:16:40,900 --> 00:16:44,299 who dared try to escape to the West. 276 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:46,633 He was now in the Mekong Delta, 277 00:16:46,732 --> 00:16:49,700 an advisor to the 7th Division of the ARVN, 278 00:16:49,799 --> 00:16:54,500 and had begun to see evidence of Viet Cong brutality as well. 279 00:16:57,732 --> 00:17:01,400 SCANLON: Those of us who talked to the people who fled East Germany, 280 00:17:01,500 --> 00:17:05,500 we saw the need to stop the growth of communism, 281 00:17:05,599 --> 00:17:09,000 to stop the dominoes from being tumbled. 282 00:17:09,099 --> 00:17:11,633 That was a worthy cause. 283 00:17:13,133 --> 00:17:16,900 NARRATOR: As the ARVN and their advisors pursued the Viet Cong, 284 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,633 the government of Ngo Dinh Diem had launched 285 00:17:19,732 --> 00:17:24,032 an ambitious program meant to gain control of the countryside 286 00:17:24,133 --> 00:17:26,799 by concentrating the rural population 287 00:17:26,900 --> 00:17:29,465 into thousands of fortified settlements, 288 00:17:29,566 --> 00:17:33,900 ringed with barbed wire and moats and bamboo spikes 289 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,665 meant to keep out the Viet Cong. 290 00:17:36,766 --> 00:17:41,099 They were called strategic hamlets, part of the effort 291 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:44,266 to win the hearts and minds, and loyalty, 292 00:17:44,365 --> 00:17:45,766 of the Vietnamese people. 293 00:17:45,865 --> 00:17:50,465 The French had tried something like it a decade before. 294 00:17:50,566 --> 00:17:54,500 They had called it pacification. 295 00:17:54,599 --> 00:17:57,165 ROBERT McNAMARA: President Diem's strategic hamlet program 296 00:17:57,266 --> 00:17:59,700 is making substantial progress. 297 00:17:59,799 --> 00:18:04,432 About 1,600 of the some 14,000 hamlets 298 00:18:04,532 --> 00:18:08,099 have been fortified to date. 299 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:10,400 NARRATOR: By the summer of 1962, 300 00:18:10,500 --> 00:18:13,833 news from South Vietnam seemed so promising 301 00:18:13,932 --> 00:18:17,665 that Defense Secretary Robert McNamara made sure 302 00:18:17,766 --> 00:18:20,833 the Pentagon was prepared to implement a plan 303 00:18:20,932 --> 00:18:24,400 for a gradual withdrawal of American advisors 304 00:18:24,500 --> 00:18:27,066 to be completed by 1965. 305 00:18:27,165 --> 00:18:30,700 So far as most Americans knew, 306 00:18:30,799 --> 00:18:33,633 the United States was achieving its goal: 307 00:18:33,732 --> 00:18:37,000 A stable, independent, anticommunist state 308 00:18:37,099 --> 00:18:39,200 in South Vietnam. 309 00:18:39,299 --> 00:18:43,665 It was "a struggle this country cannot shirk," 310 00:18:43,766 --> 00:18:45,532 TheNew York Tim es said, 311 00:18:45,633 --> 00:18:50,032 and the United States seemed to be winning it. 312 00:18:51,700 --> 00:18:55,566 But that same summer, Ho Chi Minh traveled to Beijing 313 00:18:55,665 --> 00:18:59,165 in search of more help from the Chinese. 314 00:18:59,266 --> 00:19:02,599 The American buildup in South Vietnam had alarmed him 315 00:19:02,700 --> 00:19:04,900 and the other leaders in Hanoi. 316 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:08,266 Ho told the Chinese that American attacks 317 00:19:08,365 --> 00:19:14,232 on North Vietnam itself now seemed only a matter of time. 318 00:19:14,333 --> 00:19:18,333 The Chinese promised to equip and arm tens of thousands 319 00:19:18,432 --> 00:19:21,400 of Vietnamese soldiers. 320 00:19:21,500 --> 00:19:25,000 Meanwhile, the Politburo in Hanoi had directed 321 00:19:25,099 --> 00:19:28,365 that every able-bodied North Vietnamese man 322 00:19:28,465 --> 00:19:33,299 be required to serve in the armed forces. 323 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:36,566 ["Honky Tonk Pt. 1" by Bill Doggett playing] 324 00:19:40,266 --> 00:19:42,500 NARRATOR: Inspired by their president's call, 325 00:19:42,599 --> 00:19:45,799 thousands of young Americans would join the Peace Corps 326 00:19:45,900 --> 00:19:49,732 and other organizations to help project American ideals 327 00:19:49,833 --> 00:19:52,200 and goodwill around the world. 328 00:20:05,099 --> 00:20:09,799 RUFUS PHILLIPS: We were not only there in Vietnam to stop communism, 329 00:20:09,900 --> 00:20:13,732 but there had to be something positive. 330 00:20:13,833 --> 00:20:17,066 We're trying to find out what the Vietnamese people want 331 00:20:17,165 --> 00:20:19,766 and to help them get it. 332 00:20:19,865 --> 00:20:21,099 And that was very simple 333 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:23,232 but, if you think about it, also very complex. 334 00:20:23,333 --> 00:20:25,700 But it went to the heart, I thought, 335 00:20:25,799 --> 00:20:28,165 of what we were trying to do. 336 00:20:30,165 --> 00:20:33,400 NARRATOR: Pete Hunting, a 22-year-old from Oklahoma City, 337 00:20:33,500 --> 00:20:37,066 would go to Vietnam right after college to do what he could 338 00:20:37,165 --> 00:20:40,400 to help poor villagers in the countryside. 339 00:20:40,500 --> 00:20:42,865 WOODY GUTHRIE: ? I was a soldier in the fight 340 00:20:42,965 --> 00:20:45,200 ? And I fought till we won 341 00:20:45,299 --> 00:20:49,365 ? My uniform's my dirty overhauls. ? 342 00:20:51,365 --> 00:20:53,766 I finally finished up my work in Phan Rang last week. 343 00:20:53,865 --> 00:20:55,732 Had spent a month working on a windmill 344 00:20:55,833 --> 00:20:57,833 I'd promised the people of one hamlet. 345 00:20:57,932 --> 00:21:02,500 Cost a lot of money, too, which l paid out of my own pocket. 346 00:21:02,599 --> 00:21:06,365 GUTHRIE: ? Well, I'll give you my sweat, I'll give you my blood. ? 347 00:21:06,465 --> 00:21:08,566 In soaring spirits today 348 00:21:08,665 --> 00:21:11,833 despite all the natural disasters, political intrigues, 349 00:21:11,932 --> 00:21:14,000 and subversive activities. 350 00:21:14,099 --> 00:21:16,500 NARRATOR: Pete Hunting worked 351 00:21:16,599 --> 00:21:19,400 for the International Voluntary Services, 352 00:21:19,500 --> 00:21:23,232 a nonprofit organization committed to improving 353 00:21:23,333 --> 00:21:26,432 agriculture, education, and public health. 354 00:21:26,532 --> 00:21:29,700 He was one of hundreds of dedicated aid workers 355 00:21:29,799 --> 00:21:32,333 in South Vietnam. 356 00:21:32,432 --> 00:21:36,165 GUTHRIE: ? My hoe is my gun. 357 00:21:36,266 --> 00:21:38,508 News on this side of the world 358 00:21:38,532 --> 00:21:40,609 is that I'll almost definitely be extending over here 359 00:21:40,633 --> 00:21:42,500 for another two years, 360 00:21:42,599 --> 00:21:44,732 providing the country stays in one piece that long. 361 00:21:47,799 --> 00:21:49,932 NARRATOR: Two years after he arrived, 362 00:21:50,032 --> 00:21:52,432 Pete Hunting was driving in the Mekong Delta 363 00:21:52,532 --> 00:21:55,333 when he ran into a Viet Cong ambush. 364 00:21:55,432 --> 00:21:58,900 He was shot five times in the head... 365 00:22:00,700 --> 00:22:02,665 The first American civilian volunteer 366 00:22:02,766 --> 00:22:05,432 to be killed in Vietnam. 367 00:22:10,066 --> 00:22:18,066 [helicopter blades beating, voices on radio] 368 00:22:33,932 --> 00:22:36,232 People used to joke in Vietnam 369 00:22:36,333 --> 00:22:37,965 about winning the hearts and minds. 370 00:22:38,066 --> 00:22:41,599 And you hear that expression, but that should not be a joke. 371 00:22:41,700 --> 00:22:43,799 It's a serious, serious problem. 372 00:22:43,900 --> 00:22:46,333 If you pull off a military operation, 373 00:22:46,432 --> 00:22:50,032 and it may be successful on the military basis, 374 00:22:50,133 --> 00:22:53,000 but you destroy a village, 375 00:22:53,099 --> 00:22:56,833 then you've created a village of resistance. 376 00:22:56,932 --> 00:23:00,799 NARRATOR: Few advisors understood the unique challenges 377 00:23:00,900 --> 00:23:03,633 of fighting an insurgency in Vietnam 378 00:23:03,732 --> 00:23:07,633 better than Lieutenant Colonel John Paul Vann. 379 00:23:07,732 --> 00:23:10,365 A career soldier from Virginia, 380 00:23:10,465 --> 00:23:12,633 he was the senior American advisor 381 00:23:12,732 --> 00:23:16,732 to the 7th ARVN Division in the Mekong Delta. 382 00:23:16,833 --> 00:23:21,299 Small, wiry and abrasive, John Paul Vann was convinced 383 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:25,500 he knew how to defeat the Viet Cong. 384 00:23:25,599 --> 00:23:30,133 PHILIP BRADY: John Paul Vann was simply the most remarkable soldier 385 00:23:30,232 --> 00:23:31,299 I ever met. 386 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,266 Period. 387 00:23:33,365 --> 00:23:38,099 The biggest challenge of John Paul Vann's life 388 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:44,000 was somehow saving Vietnam, winning. 389 00:23:44,099 --> 00:23:47,000 That, to him, was the ultimate challenge. 390 00:23:49,566 --> 00:23:51,133 NARRATOR: When it became clear to Vann 391 00:23:51,232 --> 00:23:54,099 that the tactics the Americans had taught the ARVN 392 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:57,299 were beginning to make more enemies than friends, 393 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:02,066 he sought out newspapermen to spread the word. 394 00:24:02,165 --> 00:24:06,032 NEIL SHEEHAN: He was able to explain to us what was going on. 395 00:24:06,133 --> 00:24:09,432 The important thing was not to alienate the population. 396 00:24:09,532 --> 00:24:12,400 That if you got sniper fire from a hamlet, 397 00:24:12,500 --> 00:24:14,865 you sent in riflemen to take out the sniper. 398 00:24:14,965 --> 00:24:17,285 You didn't shell the place, because you were going to kill 399 00:24:17,333 --> 00:24:19,633 women and kids and destroy houses 400 00:24:19,732 --> 00:24:22,200 and you were going to turn the population against you. 401 00:24:24,432 --> 00:24:27,700 NARRATOR: Most press coverage of Vietnam was upbeat 402 00:24:27,799 --> 00:24:30,465 in the tradition of previous wars. 403 00:24:30,566 --> 00:24:35,365 But a handful of young reporters including Neil Sheehan, 404 00:24:35,465 --> 00:24:37,932 David Halberstam of theNew York Times, 405 00:24:38,032 --> 00:24:40,566 and Malcolm Browne of the Associated Press, 406 00:24:40,665 --> 00:24:44,365 who spent time in the field with officers like Vann, 407 00:24:44,465 --> 00:24:48,500 were beginning to see that from the Vietnamese countryside, 408 00:24:48,599 --> 00:24:50,766 things looked very different than they did 409 00:24:50,865 --> 00:24:54,665 from the press offices in Washington or Saigon. 410 00:24:54,766 --> 00:24:58,932 SHEEHAN: So it was terribly important that we not only win the war 411 00:24:59,032 --> 00:25:01,865 but that we as reporters report the truth 412 00:25:01,965 --> 00:25:04,799 that would help to win the war. 413 00:25:04,900 --> 00:25:07,932 We were very fervent in wanting to report the truth 414 00:25:08,032 --> 00:25:11,099 because it was very important to the welfare of our country 415 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:12,599 and to the welfare of the world. 416 00:25:14,732 --> 00:25:18,165 NARRATOR: Sheehan and his colleagues began asking tough questions 417 00:25:18,266 --> 00:25:23,200 about what constituted progress, what victory would look like, 418 00:25:23,299 --> 00:25:25,599 and if the people in the countryside, 419 00:25:25,700 --> 00:25:29,299 where 80% of South Vietnam's population lived, 420 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:34,165 could ever trust the government in Saigon. 421 00:25:34,266 --> 00:25:37,266 SHEEHAN: I remember going, during one of Robert McNamara's visits, 422 00:25:37,365 --> 00:25:40,333 out to one of these hamlets. 423 00:25:40,432 --> 00:25:41,941 The Vietnamese general who commanded the area 424 00:25:41,965 --> 00:25:43,476 was telling McNamara what a wonderful thing this was. 425 00:25:43,500 --> 00:25:46,000 And the-the... some of these farmers were down 426 00:25:46,099 --> 00:25:49,732 digging a ditch around the... around the hamlet. 427 00:25:49,833 --> 00:25:53,165 And I looked at their faces and they were really angry. 428 00:25:54,932 --> 00:25:56,500 I mean it was very obvious to me 429 00:25:56,599 --> 00:25:59,432 that if these people could, they'd cut our throats. 430 00:26:03,766 --> 00:26:07,732 NARRATOR: Farmers resented being forced to abandon their homes 431 00:26:07,833 --> 00:26:10,266 and move to strategic hamlets. 432 00:26:10,365 --> 00:26:14,432 Corrupt officials siphoned off funds. 433 00:26:14,532 --> 00:26:16,932 And villagers blamed the Diem regime 434 00:26:17,032 --> 00:26:20,900 for failing to protect them from guerrilla attacks. 435 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:26,165 As the people's anger grew, so did the ranks of the Viet Cong. 436 00:26:26,266 --> 00:26:30,566 SHEEHAN: It turned out that the Viet Cong were recruiting men 437 00:26:30,665 --> 00:26:34,099 right out of those strategic... so-called strategic hamlets. 438 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,200 And then the whole program fell apart. 439 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,000 NGUYEN NGOC: 440 00:26:59,965 --> 00:27:03,833 NARRATOR: Nguyen Ngoc's father was a postal clerk south of Danang. 441 00:27:03,932 --> 00:27:08,400 His brothers and sisters taught in South Vietnamese schools. 442 00:27:08,500 --> 00:27:12,165 But he joined the revolution, and as a political officer, 443 00:27:12,266 --> 00:27:16,200 wrote poems, songs, and slogans to inspire the people 444 00:27:16,299 --> 00:27:20,799 in the countryside to support the Viet Cong. 445 00:27:20,900 --> 00:27:25,432 DUONG VAN MAl: The Viet Cong cadre would come in and talk to them 446 00:27:25,532 --> 00:27:30,299 and their message is usually 447 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,900 which means "turn your grief into action. 448 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,400 "Do something about it. 449 00:27:35,500 --> 00:27:37,432 "Join us. 450 00:27:37,532 --> 00:27:38,900 "We'll fight together. 451 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:43,400 "We'll liberate the country from this corrupt, unjust government. 452 00:27:43,500 --> 00:27:45,400 "We'll throw out the foreigners. 453 00:27:45,500 --> 00:27:47,200 "We'll reunify the country. 454 00:27:47,299 --> 00:27:50,365 "And we'll bring in this great regime 455 00:27:50,465 --> 00:27:52,000 "that will take care of you 456 00:27:52,099 --> 00:27:53,900 and bring economic and social justice." 457 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:59,099 NARRATOR: The Viet Cong ran rival local governments, 458 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:03,000 complete with their own tax collectors and school teachers, 459 00:28:03,099 --> 00:28:07,500 spies and propagandists, and province chiefs. 460 00:28:10,099 --> 00:28:12,299 To make matters worse, 461 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:16,133 ARVN troops and American advisors now found themselves 462 00:28:16,232 --> 00:28:19,133 confronted by a new threat: 463 00:28:19,232 --> 00:28:22,400 Battalions of well-armed Viet Cong soldiers, 464 00:28:22,500 --> 00:28:25,665 as well as by local guerrillas. 465 00:28:25,766 --> 00:28:27,965 SHEEHAN: We'd armed them. 466 00:28:28,066 --> 00:28:31,400 You could hear the arming of the Viet Cong. 467 00:28:31,500 --> 00:28:34,932 Back in early '62, they only had one machine gun per battalion. 468 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:37,665 It was sporadic fire. 469 00:28:37,766 --> 00:28:41,665 Then, as they captured more and more of these American arms, 470 00:28:41,766 --> 00:28:43,500 when you made contact, it fi... 471 00:28:43,599 --> 00:28:45,833 it would build up into a drumfire of automatic 472 00:28:45,932 --> 00:28:47,365 and semi-automatic weapons. 473 00:28:55,099 --> 00:28:58,200 RUFUS PHILLIPS: Secretary McNamara decided that he would draw up 474 00:28:58,299 --> 00:29:01,133 some kind of a chart to determine 475 00:29:01,232 --> 00:29:04,066 whether we were winning or not. 476 00:29:04,165 --> 00:29:06,766 And he was putting things in 477 00:29:06,865 --> 00:29:09,633 like numbers of weapons recovered, 478 00:29:09,732 --> 00:29:12,000 numbers of Viet Cong killed. 479 00:29:12,099 --> 00:29:14,500 Very statistical. 480 00:29:17,066 --> 00:29:19,465 And he asked Edward Lansdale, 481 00:29:19,566 --> 00:29:23,266 who was then in the Pentagon as head of Special Operations, 482 00:29:23,365 --> 00:29:25,365 to come down and look at this. 483 00:29:25,465 --> 00:29:29,599 And so Lansdale did and he said, "There's something missing." 484 00:29:29,700 --> 00:29:32,900 And McNamara said, "What?" 485 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:36,532 And Lansdale said, "The feelings of the Vietnamese people." 486 00:29:36,633 --> 00:29:40,465 You couldn't reduce this to a statistic. 487 00:29:40,566 --> 00:29:45,133 NARRATOR: Robert McNamara had vowed to make America's military 488 00:29:45,232 --> 00:29:46,599 "cost-effective." 489 00:29:46,700 --> 00:29:50,400 He demanded that everything be quantified. 490 00:29:50,500 --> 00:29:54,299 In Saigon, General Paul D. Harkins, 491 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,665 head of the Military Assistance Command, Vietnam, 492 00:29:57,766 --> 00:30:01,000 known as MACV, dutifully complied. 493 00:30:01,099 --> 00:30:05,700 He and his staff generated mountains of daily, weekly, 494 00:30:05,799 --> 00:30:07,965 monthly, and quarterly data 495 00:30:08,066 --> 00:30:11,066 on more than a hundred separate indicators, 496 00:30:11,165 --> 00:30:15,665 far more data than could ever be adequately analyzed. 497 00:30:19,133 --> 00:30:21,932 General Harkins had little use for skeptical reporters 498 00:30:22,032 --> 00:30:23,566 like Neil Sheehan. 499 00:30:23,665 --> 00:30:26,133 Bad news was to be buried. 500 00:30:26,232 --> 00:30:30,333 Harkins ignored the alarming after action reports 501 00:30:30,432 --> 00:30:34,000 John Paul Vann and other officers were sending in 502 00:30:34,099 --> 00:30:36,066 from the field. 503 00:30:36,165 --> 00:30:39,133 DONALD GREGG: I was going to be made head of the Vietnam desk 504 00:30:39,232 --> 00:30:41,200 at CIA headquarters. 505 00:30:41,299 --> 00:30:44,532 And the first person of importance that I met 506 00:30:44,633 --> 00:30:46,833 was General Harkins. 507 00:30:46,932 --> 00:30:49,365 And he started out by saying, 508 00:30:49,465 --> 00:30:52,232 "Mr. Gregg, I don't care what you hear from anybody else, 509 00:30:52,333 --> 00:30:54,708 "l can tell you without a doubt we're going to be out of here 510 00:30:54,732 --> 00:30:56,532 with a military victory in six months." 511 00:30:58,032 --> 00:30:59,965 JAMES MOSSMAN: The country's 12 million peasants 512 00:31:00,066 --> 00:31:02,665 can scarcely remember what peace was like. 513 00:31:02,766 --> 00:31:04,646 They're caught between the predatory guerrillas 514 00:31:04,700 --> 00:31:07,200 and the almost equally demanding soldiery. 515 00:31:07,299 --> 00:31:09,619 Their lives are lived in a state of permanent uncertainty, 516 00:31:09,700 --> 00:31:12,299 punctuated by bouts of violence 517 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:13,833 as government forces come to grips 518 00:31:13,932 --> 00:31:16,165 with the black-clad communist rebel forces 519 00:31:16,266 --> 00:31:17,599 called the Viet Cong. 520 00:31:22,333 --> 00:31:24,833 HUY DUC: 521 00:32:03,732 --> 00:32:07,099 NGUYEN NGOC: 522 00:32:49,532 --> 00:32:52,233 CAO XUAN DAl: 523 00:33:15,565 --> 00:33:19,800 On our side we were not as committed 524 00:33:19,900 --> 00:33:21,733 and we were... 525 00:33:21,833 --> 00:33:25,065 our leaders were corrupt and incompetent. 526 00:33:25,166 --> 00:33:30,132 And so deep down we'll always have this fear, 527 00:33:30,233 --> 00:33:35,800 this suspicion that in the end it'll be the communists who won. 528 00:33:35,900 --> 00:33:39,365 TOM VALLELY: When John Kennedy assembled 529 00:33:39,465 --> 00:33:41,500 what he thinks is the best and the brightest, 530 00:33:41,599 --> 00:33:47,766 20 years before that in a cave in the northern part 531 00:33:47,865 --> 00:33:50,432 of Vietnam, Ho Chi Minh also put together 532 00:33:50,532 --> 00:33:51,932 his best and the brightest. 533 00:33:52,032 --> 00:33:55,099 And these guys are at it for a while. 534 00:33:55,199 --> 00:33:58,733 And when we show up, they were far along 535 00:33:58,833 --> 00:34:04,699 to consolidating their victory over this inevitable conflict 536 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:09,333 between Ho Chi Minh and John F. Kennedy's vision. 537 00:34:09,432 --> 00:34:14,500 The more you think about the American strategy, 538 00:34:14,599 --> 00:34:18,199 the more you know 539 00:34:18,300 --> 00:34:21,065 that it was never going to work out particularly well. 540 00:34:35,932 --> 00:34:41,599 RHEAULT: I was at my top of my game when I was in combat. 541 00:34:46,565 --> 00:34:49,632 You don't have the luxury to indulge your fear 542 00:34:49,733 --> 00:34:51,699 because other people's lives depend upon 543 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:53,099 you keeping your head cold. 544 00:35:01,865 --> 00:35:04,833 You know, when something goes wrong, 545 00:35:04,932 --> 00:35:06,233 they call it emotional numbing. 546 00:35:06,333 --> 00:35:08,599 It's not very good in civilian life, 547 00:35:08,699 --> 00:35:10,900 but it's pretty useful in combat. 548 00:35:22,599 --> 00:35:25,199 To be able to get absolutely very cold 549 00:35:25,300 --> 00:35:30,465 about what needs to be done and to stick with it. 550 00:35:36,300 --> 00:35:39,233 To me it's, it's a little bit distressing to realize 551 00:35:39,333 --> 00:35:41,000 that I was at my best 552 00:35:41,099 --> 00:35:43,766 doing something as terrible as war. 553 00:35:53,166 --> 00:35:55,699 MOSSMAN: President Kennedy has staked his reputation in Asia 554 00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,632 on saving South Vietnam from communism. 555 00:35:58,733 --> 00:36:01,132 As the army makes the sweep towards the village 556 00:36:01,233 --> 00:36:03,032 suspected of harboring Viet Cong, 557 00:36:03,132 --> 00:36:06,233 it can't tell whether it will meet resistance. 558 00:36:12,465 --> 00:36:14,666 The troops round up all the young men they can find, 559 00:36:14,766 --> 00:36:17,833 since they can't tell who is a communist just by looking. 560 00:36:20,333 --> 00:36:23,000 Those who try to run for it are shot 561 00:36:23,099 --> 00:36:25,032 on the assumption they have something to hide. 562 00:37:16,699 --> 00:37:21,565 NARRATOR: Each of South Vietnam's 44 provinces had its own chief. 563 00:37:21,666 --> 00:37:24,465 Some were simply political appointees, 564 00:37:24,565 --> 00:37:27,333 corrupt allies of President Diem. 565 00:37:27,432 --> 00:37:33,065 Tran Ngoc Chau, province chief of Kien Hoa, was different. 566 00:37:33,166 --> 00:37:38,000 A privileged judge's son from the old imperial city of Hue, 567 00:37:38,099 --> 00:37:41,065 he and two of his brothers had fought against the French 568 00:37:41,166 --> 00:37:42,532 with the Viet Minh. 569 00:37:42,632 --> 00:37:46,632 But he had refused to join the Communist Party; 570 00:37:46,733 --> 00:37:49,666 He admired their dedication, but disliked the way 571 00:37:49,766 --> 00:37:52,900 they punished those who dared differ with them. 572 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,965 Instead, he left the Viet Minh, 573 00:37:56,065 --> 00:37:59,199 became a major in the army fighting against them, 574 00:37:59,300 --> 00:38:03,166 and eventually so impressed Diem with his insider's knowledge 575 00:38:03,266 --> 00:38:07,099 of communist tactics that he was promoted to colonel 576 00:38:07,199 --> 00:38:13,032 and made chief of Kien Hoa, a Viet Cong stronghold. 577 00:38:13,132 --> 00:38:16,800 PHILLIPS: He was absolutely incorruptible. 578 00:38:16,900 --> 00:38:21,865 And people came to really understand that here's a guy 579 00:38:21,965 --> 00:38:24,965 who's, even though it's not an elected system, 580 00:38:25,065 --> 00:38:27,900 who never... nevertheless really represents us. 581 00:38:29,599 --> 00:38:31,519 NARRATOR: "Give me a budget that equals the cost 582 00:38:31,599 --> 00:38:35,800 of one American helicopter," Chau liked to say, 583 00:38:35,900 --> 00:38:38,532 "and I'll give you a pacified province. 584 00:38:38,632 --> 00:38:42,699 "With that much money, I can raise the standard of living 585 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:44,300 "of the rice farmers, 586 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:46,160 "and government officials can be paid enough 587 00:38:46,199 --> 00:38:50,900 so they won't think it necessary to steal." 588 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,465 Rather than hunt down the Viet Cong, 589 00:38:53,565 --> 00:38:56,233 he sought to persuade them. 590 00:39:51,632 --> 00:39:55,233 NARRATOR: Back home, Americans were paying little attention 591 00:39:55,333 --> 00:39:57,500 to what was happening in Vietnam. 592 00:39:57,599 --> 00:40:00,333 They were watching The Beverly Hillbillies 593 00:40:00,432 --> 00:40:02,532 andGunsm oke on TV, 594 00:40:02,632 --> 00:40:05,565 were interested in whether the Yankees would win 595 00:40:05,666 --> 00:40:07,065 the World Series again 596 00:40:07,166 --> 00:40:11,300 and in the recent death of Marilyn Monroe. 597 00:40:14,599 --> 00:40:17,000 But some Americans had been growing impatient 598 00:40:17,099 --> 00:40:20,365 with the slow pace of social change. 599 00:40:20,465 --> 00:40:22,099 BILL ZIMMERMAN: We were told in the '50s 600 00:40:22,199 --> 00:40:24,900 that we lived in the best country in the world. 601 00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:28,400 In the middle of, you know, trying to figure out 602 00:40:28,500 --> 00:40:30,733 what it meant to be a citizen of the... 603 00:40:30,833 --> 00:40:33,166 of this best country in the world, 604 00:40:33,266 --> 00:40:35,065 suddenly the civil rights movement exploded 605 00:40:35,166 --> 00:40:37,099 into our consciousness. 606 00:40:37,199 --> 00:40:43,333 BEN E. KING: ? When the night has come... 607 00:40:43,432 --> 00:40:45,266 ZIMMERMAN: We didn't think we had any power. 608 00:40:45,365 --> 00:40:48,500 We didn't think we could be actors in history, 609 00:40:48,599 --> 00:40:51,199 that we could affect things. 610 00:40:53,432 --> 00:40:56,500 KING: ? No, I won't be afraid 611 00:40:56,599 --> 00:40:58,432 ? Oh, I won't... 612 00:40:58,532 --> 00:41:00,266 ZIMMERMAN: And suddenly, you know, 613 00:41:00,365 --> 00:41:02,266 these young black students in the South 614 00:41:02,365 --> 00:41:03,965 were doing exactly that. 615 00:41:04,065 --> 00:41:07,132 And it just blew the tops of our heads off. 616 00:41:07,233 --> 00:41:12,865 KING: ? So darling, darling, stand by me ? 617 00:41:12,965 --> 00:41:17,300 ? Oh, stand by me 618 00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:22,565 ? Oh, stand, stand by me 619 00:41:22,666 --> 00:41:25,432 ? Stand by me 620 00:41:25,532 --> 00:41:28,199 ? If the sky that we look upon... ? 621 00:41:28,300 --> 00:41:31,699 NARRATOR: Other Americans were concerned about the proliferation 622 00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:35,032 of nuclear weapons in the world. 623 00:41:35,132 --> 00:41:39,032 Perhaps it would be a good thing to put Khrushchev and Kennedy 624 00:41:39,132 --> 00:41:42,932 on an island and not let either one of them off 625 00:41:43,032 --> 00:41:45,300 until they came to an agreement. 626 00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,766 KING: ? Stand by me 627 00:41:47,865 --> 00:41:52,699 ? And darling, darling, stand by me. ? 628 00:42:08,065 --> 00:42:11,199 SHEEHAN: And if you were in a cafe when Diem was giving a speech, 629 00:42:11,300 --> 00:42:13,100 somebody would get up and shut the radio off, 630 00:42:13,166 --> 00:42:14,932 it would be coming in over the radio. 631 00:42:15,032 --> 00:42:17,333 Somebody would get up and they'd just shut the radio off. 632 00:42:17,432 --> 00:42:21,599 I mean, he was not connected with... to his own population. 633 00:42:24,565 --> 00:42:29,465 PHAN QUANG TUE: Diem was simply the opposite of what democracy was. 634 00:42:29,565 --> 00:42:33,333 South Vietnam, in the competition against the North, 635 00:42:33,432 --> 00:42:38,500 that should been, should have been a golden opportunity 636 00:42:38,599 --> 00:42:43,900 to have that society open with the free press, 637 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,000 free expression. 638 00:42:46,099 --> 00:42:48,833 But there was not much choice 639 00:42:48,932 --> 00:42:53,333 if the two system are structurally dictator 640 00:42:53,432 --> 00:42:54,733 and oppressive systems... 641 00:42:54,833 --> 00:43:01,166 one under the Communist Party, one under a family. 642 00:43:18,099 --> 00:43:21,699 NARRATOR: Diem's brother, Ngo Dinh Nhu, had been the architect 643 00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:24,199 of the strategic hamlet program, 644 00:43:24,300 --> 00:43:28,432 ran a personal political party that mirrored the techniques 645 00:43:28,532 --> 00:43:31,000 and the ruthlessness of the communists, 646 00:43:31,099 --> 00:43:35,266 and supervised a host of internal security units 647 00:43:35,365 --> 00:43:39,500 that spied on and seized enemies of the regime. 648 00:43:41,365 --> 00:43:43,465 Some reporters who probed too deeply 649 00:43:43,565 --> 00:43:45,965 into what Diem and Nhu were doing 650 00:43:46,065 --> 00:43:48,233 were ordered out of the country. 651 00:43:49,365 --> 00:43:51,766 When an American journalist objected, 652 00:43:51,865 --> 00:43:55,932 Nhu's sharp-tongued wife told him Vietnam had no use 653 00:43:56,032 --> 00:43:58,666 for "your crazy freedoms." 654 00:44:00,132 --> 00:44:02,000 Meanwhile, out in the countryside, 655 00:44:02,099 --> 00:44:06,266 John Paul Vann and other advisors had begun to notice 656 00:44:06,365 --> 00:44:10,099 that the corruption within Diem's regime had filtered down 657 00:44:10,199 --> 00:44:12,132 to the commanders in the field. 658 00:44:12,233 --> 00:44:17,233 Troops, who had once been willing to engage the enemy, 659 00:44:17,333 --> 00:44:21,365 now seemed strangely reluctant. 660 00:44:21,465 --> 00:44:26,266 God, I was told so many times, 661 00:44:28,365 --> 00:44:29,465 Um... 662 00:44:29,565 --> 00:44:34,766 very dangerous, you know, going out there. 663 00:44:34,865 --> 00:44:37,599 NEIL SHEEHAN: John Vann would go out with them at night. 664 00:44:37,699 --> 00:44:41,800 And he noticed that somebody would always cough 665 00:44:41,900 --> 00:44:45,233 or make some other slight noise when it turned out 666 00:44:45,333 --> 00:44:47,733 that the Viet Cong were heading into the ambush site. 667 00:44:47,833 --> 00:44:49,565 They did not want to get in a fight. 668 00:44:49,666 --> 00:44:52,865 NARRATOR: South Vietnamese officers were chosen 669 00:44:52,965 --> 00:44:56,432 less for their combat skill than for their loyalty 670 00:44:56,532 --> 00:45:00,500 to President Diem, and their men knew it. 671 00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:03,160 RHEAULT: What we should've done is 672 00:45:03,233 --> 00:45:07,800 either forced the Vietnamese... I mean really forced them... 673 00:45:07,900 --> 00:45:10,000 to clean up their act. 674 00:45:10,099 --> 00:45:12,132 And if they wouldn't clean up their act to say, 675 00:45:12,233 --> 00:45:14,632 "We're out of here. 676 00:45:14,733 --> 00:45:17,532 "Because we don't bet on losing horses. 677 00:45:17,632 --> 00:45:20,032 "This is a losing horse. 678 00:45:20,132 --> 00:45:22,400 You are not going to win this insurgency." 679 00:45:22,500 --> 00:45:25,233 We, as Americans, should have understood the desire 680 00:45:25,333 --> 00:45:28,800 of the Vietnamese people to have their own country. 681 00:45:28,900 --> 00:45:31,900 I mean we did the same thing to the Brits. 682 00:45:37,532 --> 00:45:42,365 NARRATOR: In October of 1962, the United States and the Soviet Union 683 00:45:42,465 --> 00:45:45,233 came closer than they would ever come again 684 00:45:45,333 --> 00:45:48,000 to mutually assured destruction. 685 00:45:48,099 --> 00:45:51,099 Good evening, my fellow citizens. 686 00:45:51,199 --> 00:45:55,166 This government, as promised, has maintained 687 00:45:55,266 --> 00:45:59,099 the closest surveillance of the Soviet military buildup 688 00:45:59,199 --> 00:46:01,000 on the island of Cuba. 689 00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,032 Within the past week, 690 00:46:04,132 --> 00:46:07,432 unmistakable evidence has established the fact 691 00:46:07,532 --> 00:46:10,932 that a series of offensive missile sites 692 00:46:11,032 --> 00:46:16,065 is now in preparation on that imprisoned island. 693 00:46:16,166 --> 00:46:19,365 NARRATOR: The Soviets had secretly placed nuclear missiles 694 00:46:19,465 --> 00:46:22,500 90 miles from the United States. 695 00:46:22,599 --> 00:46:27,500 The Joint Chiefs of Staff urged President Kennedy to bomb Cuba. 696 00:46:27,599 --> 00:46:31,733 He resisted and instead ordered a naval blockade 697 00:46:31,833 --> 00:46:36,233 to stop Soviet ships from resupplying the island. 698 00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:43,199 For 13 excruciating days, the world held its breath. 699 00:46:46,599 --> 00:46:49,833 Finally, in exchange for a private pledge 700 00:46:49,932 --> 00:46:52,632 to remove American missiles from Turkey, 701 00:46:52,733 --> 00:46:56,333 Khrushchev agreed to remove his missiles from Cuba. 702 00:46:59,166 --> 00:47:02,166 Neither the United States nor the Soviet Union 703 00:47:02,266 --> 00:47:06,300 wanted so direct a confrontation ever again. 704 00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:08,800 From now on, limited wars, 705 00:47:08,900 --> 00:47:11,400 like the growing conflict in Vietnam, 706 00:47:11,500 --> 00:47:15,000 would assume still greater importance. 707 00:47:18,300 --> 00:47:22,800 MUSGRAVE: I'd grown up in the shadow of the mushroom cloud. 708 00:47:22,900 --> 00:47:26,932 And I remember the... watching President Kennedy speak 709 00:47:27,032 --> 00:47:28,599 during the Cuban Missile Crisis 710 00:47:28,699 --> 00:47:30,900 and wondering if I was ever gonna kiss a girl. 711 00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:33,865 And so this was just continuing that battle 712 00:47:33,965 --> 00:47:35,733 against the Russians. 713 00:47:35,833 --> 00:47:39,365 Only we were fighting, you know, their, their proxies, 714 00:47:39,465 --> 00:47:42,900 the Vietnamese there... but it was monolithic communism. 715 00:47:44,266 --> 00:47:47,132 It didn't matter to me where it was, I was going to go 716 00:47:47,233 --> 00:47:51,300 if my government said we needed to be there. 717 00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:54,333 We were probably the last kids of any generation 718 00:47:54,432 --> 00:47:55,666 that actually believed 719 00:47:55,766 --> 00:47:57,500 our government would never lie to us. 720 00:48:02,833 --> 00:48:05,132 SHEEHAN: We had been writing stories about all the flaws 721 00:48:05,233 --> 00:48:08,065 on the Saigon side... about how they wouldn't fight, 722 00:48:08,166 --> 00:48:10,900 about the corruption, they wouldn't obey orders, 723 00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:12,532 the disorganization. 724 00:48:14,465 --> 00:48:19,000 And then all of a sudden the Viet Cong, for the first time, 725 00:48:19,099 --> 00:48:20,465 the "raggedy-ass little bastards" 726 00:48:20,565 --> 00:48:23,365 As the Harkins's people in Saigon called them, 727 00:48:23,465 --> 00:48:25,000 stood and fought. 728 00:48:25,099 --> 00:48:27,365 And suddenly all the flaws on the Saigon side 729 00:48:27,465 --> 00:48:29,766 were illuminated by this. 730 00:48:29,865 --> 00:48:33,065 Like a star shell, it illuminated the battlefield. 731 00:48:33,166 --> 00:48:34,632 Everything came out. 732 00:48:35,900 --> 00:48:39,199 NARRATOR: A few days after Christmas 1962, 733 00:48:39,300 --> 00:48:42,766 the 7th ARVN Division got orders to capture 734 00:48:42,865 --> 00:48:44,965 a Viet Cong radio transmitter 735 00:48:45,065 --> 00:48:49,699 broadcasting from a spot some 40 miles southwest of Saigon 736 00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:52,766 in a village called Tan Thoi. 737 00:48:52,865 --> 00:48:55,599 The village was surrounded by rice paddies. 738 00:48:55,699 --> 00:49:01,699 An irrigation dike linked it to a neighboring hamlet... Ap Bac. 739 00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:06,132 Intelligence suggested no more than 120 guerrillas 740 00:49:06,233 --> 00:49:08,565 were guarding the transmitter. 741 00:49:08,666 --> 00:49:12,000 John Paul Vann helped draw up what seemed to be 742 00:49:12,099 --> 00:49:14,532 a foolproof plan of attack. 743 00:49:14,632 --> 00:49:18,865 Supported by helicopters and armored personnel carriers, 744 00:49:18,965 --> 00:49:22,833 some 1,200 South Vietnamese troops would attack the village 745 00:49:22,932 --> 00:49:24,766 from three sides. 746 00:49:24,865 --> 00:49:27,733 When the surviving Viet Cong tried to flee through the gap 747 00:49:27,833 --> 00:49:31,766 left open for them, as they always had whenever outnumbered 748 00:49:31,865 --> 00:49:34,065 and confronted by modern weapons, 749 00:49:34,166 --> 00:49:37,666 artillery and airstrikes would destroy them. 750 00:49:37,766 --> 00:49:42,233 Vann would observe the fighting from a spotter plane. 751 00:49:42,333 --> 00:49:47,932 But the intelligence underlying it all turned out to be wrong. 752 00:49:48,032 --> 00:49:53,565 There were more than 340 Viet Cong, not 120, in the area. 753 00:49:53,666 --> 00:49:56,599 Communist spies had tipped them off 754 00:49:56,699 --> 00:49:58,800 that they were soon to be attacked. 755 00:49:58,900 --> 00:50:02,965 And this time they would not flee without a fight. 756 00:50:05,432 --> 00:50:08,166 Among them was Le Quan Cong, 757 00:50:08,266 --> 00:50:12,699 who had been a guerrilla fighter since 1951, when he was 12. 758 00:50:27,166 --> 00:50:32,233 NARRATOR: At 6:35 in the morning on January 2, 1963, 759 00:50:32,333 --> 00:50:35,632 ten American helicopters ferried an ARVN company 760 00:50:35,733 --> 00:50:39,099 to a spot just north of Tan Thoi. 761 00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:45,000 They met no resistance. 762 00:50:45,099 --> 00:50:48,666 Meanwhile, two South Vietnamese Civil Guard battalions 763 00:50:48,766 --> 00:50:52,065 approached Ap Bac from the South on foot. 764 00:50:55,065 --> 00:50:58,733 The Viet Cong commander let the Civil Guards get within 100 feet 765 00:50:58,833 --> 00:51:01,400 before giving the order to fire. 766 00:51:03,900 --> 00:51:06,666 Several South Vietnamese soldiers were killed. 767 00:51:10,632 --> 00:51:13,699 Survivors hid behind a dike. 768 00:51:16,632 --> 00:51:18,465 Ten more helicopters, 769 00:51:18,565 --> 00:51:22,266 filled with troops and escorted by five helicopter gunships, 770 00:51:22,365 --> 00:51:23,632 roared in to help. 771 00:51:25,166 --> 00:51:27,132 LE QUAN CONG: 772 00:51:50,465 --> 00:51:54,766 NARRATOR: Viet Cong machine guns hit 14 of the 15 aircraft. 773 00:51:54,865 --> 00:52:00,233 Five would be destroyed, killing and wounding American crewmen. 774 00:52:01,699 --> 00:52:03,865 LE QUAN CONG: 775 00:52:09,932 --> 00:52:12,300 NARRATOR: The enemy concentrated their fire on the ARVN 776 00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:15,465 struggling to get out of the downed helicopters. 777 00:52:15,565 --> 00:52:18,532 "lt was like shooting ducks for the Viet Cong," 778 00:52:18,632 --> 00:52:20,565 An American crewman remembered. 779 00:52:22,900 --> 00:52:25,900 Colonel Vann circled helplessly overhead. 780 00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:28,400 He radioed the ARVN commander, 781 00:52:28,500 --> 00:52:32,599 urging him to send an APC unit to rescue the men. 782 00:52:33,932 --> 00:52:36,500 SCANLON: I got the word from John Vann 783 00:52:36,599 --> 00:52:39,400 that American helicopters were down. 784 00:52:39,500 --> 00:52:41,865 They were right in front of the Viet Cong positions. 785 00:52:41,965 --> 00:52:45,266 We had Americans killed and wounded 786 00:52:45,365 --> 00:52:47,432 and we had to get over there right away. 787 00:52:47,532 --> 00:52:51,432 NARRATOR: Like Vann, Captain Scanlon was only an advisor. 788 00:52:51,532 --> 00:52:54,965 Captain Ly Tong Ba, his ARVN counterpart, 789 00:52:55,065 --> 00:52:57,766 would have to give the order to advance. 790 00:52:57,865 --> 00:53:01,099 Scanlon liked and admired him. 791 00:53:01,199 --> 00:53:03,632 SCANLON: I turned to Ba and said, 792 00:53:03,733 --> 00:53:06,400 "Hey, you know, you got to get over there right away." 793 00:53:06,500 --> 00:53:11,000 And Ba said to me, "I'm not going." 794 00:53:11,099 --> 00:53:14,465 NARRATOR: Ba's superiors within the ARVN, far from the battlefield, 795 00:53:14,565 --> 00:53:17,632 had told him to stay put. 796 00:53:17,733 --> 00:53:21,666 And John Vann, my boss, was, uh, screaming at me over the... 797 00:53:21,766 --> 00:53:25,065 over the radio to get them over there. 798 00:53:25,166 --> 00:53:29,500 NARRATOR: It took Scanlon an hour to convince Captain Ba to move. 799 00:53:29,599 --> 00:53:32,000 Another two hours were lost 800 00:53:32,099 --> 00:53:35,099 before the APCs could make their way through the paddies 801 00:53:35,199 --> 00:53:37,400 toward the trapped men. 802 00:53:39,365 --> 00:53:41,632 The firing had died down. 803 00:53:41,733 --> 00:53:43,632 SCANLON: Everything was quiet. 804 00:53:43,733 --> 00:53:46,432 You could see the open expanse of rice fields. 805 00:53:46,532 --> 00:53:49,833 And my reaction was, hey, it was all over. 806 00:53:49,932 --> 00:53:53,132 NARRATOR: The first two APCs dropped their ramps. 807 00:53:53,233 --> 00:53:55,599 Infantry squads stepped out, 808 00:53:55,699 --> 00:53:58,666 prepared to spray the tree line with automatic fire 809 00:53:58,766 --> 00:53:59,965 as they advanced. 810 00:54:00,065 --> 00:54:02,766 In the past, that had been enough 811 00:54:02,865 --> 00:54:06,199 to make the Viet Cong scurry away. 812 00:54:06,300 --> 00:54:08,565 This time was different. 813 00:54:12,266 --> 00:54:14,266 Eight of the APCs came under attack. 814 00:54:14,365 --> 00:54:17,733 Within minutes, six of their gunners had been killed, 815 00:54:17,833 --> 00:54:19,065 shot through the head. 816 00:54:20,465 --> 00:54:22,565 SCANLON: And boy, we got raked. 817 00:54:22,666 --> 00:54:24,400 So it was like a pool table. 818 00:54:24,500 --> 00:54:25,865 We were on the green 819 00:54:25,965 --> 00:54:28,199 and they were in the pockets shooting at us. 820 00:54:28,300 --> 00:54:31,065 NARRATOR: When Captain Ba managed to convince 821 00:54:31,166 --> 00:54:33,733 a few more APCs to advance, 822 00:54:33,833 --> 00:54:36,800 guerrillas leapt from their foxholes 823 00:54:36,900 --> 00:54:38,932 and hurled hand grenades at them. 824 00:54:43,932 --> 00:54:46,333 None did any real damage, 825 00:54:46,432 --> 00:54:50,000 but the drivers were so demoralized that they halted, 826 00:54:50,099 --> 00:54:55,032 turned around, and withdrew behind the wrecked helicopters. 827 00:54:55,132 --> 00:54:57,032 From his spotter plane, 828 00:54:57,132 --> 00:55:01,266 Vann begged the ARVN to make a simultaneous assault 829 00:55:01,365 --> 00:55:04,733 on the enemy by all the remaining ground forces. 830 00:55:05,865 --> 00:55:08,865 ARVN commanders refused. 831 00:55:11,266 --> 00:55:14,233 That night, the Viet Cong melted away, 832 00:55:14,333 --> 00:55:17,733 carrying most of their dead and wounded with them. 833 00:55:19,865 --> 00:55:23,932 At least 80 South Vietnamese soldiers had been killed. 834 00:55:24,032 --> 00:55:29,400 So had three American advisors, including Captain Ken Good, 835 00:55:29,500 --> 00:55:30,632 a friend of Scanlon's. 836 00:55:34,532 --> 00:55:38,432 SCANLON: We stacked the armored personnel carriers with bodies, 837 00:55:38,532 --> 00:55:40,233 stacked them up on top till they... 838 00:55:40,333 --> 00:55:42,166 we couldn't stack anymore. 839 00:55:42,266 --> 00:55:48,365 And, um, I wouldn't let the Vietnamese touch the Americans. 840 00:55:48,465 --> 00:55:51,233 So I carried Americans out. 841 00:55:51,333 --> 00:55:53,599 And, um... 842 00:55:53,699 --> 00:55:55,900 And I was... I was exhausted. 843 00:55:56,000 --> 00:56:01,865 They told me about Ken Good getting killed. 844 00:56:01,965 --> 00:56:06,199 And Ken and I had worked so hard with our two battalions. 845 00:56:06,300 --> 00:56:12,099 And to hear that... he got killed hurt. 846 00:56:15,266 --> 00:56:17,465 NARRATOR: Reporters arrived from Saigon 847 00:56:17,565 --> 00:56:21,500 before all of the ARVN dead could be removed. 848 00:56:21,599 --> 00:56:25,800 They were horrified at what they saw and tried to find out 849 00:56:25,900 --> 00:56:28,565 what had really happened. 850 00:56:28,666 --> 00:56:33,099 John Paul Vann took Neil Sheehan and David Halberstam aside 851 00:56:33,199 --> 00:56:35,132 and told them. 852 00:56:35,233 --> 00:56:37,000 The Battle of Ap Bac had been 853 00:56:37,099 --> 00:56:39,833 "a miserable goddamn performance." 854 00:56:39,932 --> 00:56:42,065 "The ARVN won't listen," he said. 855 00:56:42,166 --> 00:56:45,099 "They make the same mistakes over and over again 856 00:56:45,199 --> 00:56:47,233 in the same way." 857 00:56:48,900 --> 00:56:50,400 But back in Saigon, 858 00:56:50,500 --> 00:56:54,199 General Harkins immediately declared victory. 859 00:56:54,300 --> 00:56:57,300 "The ARVN forces had an objective," he said. 860 00:56:57,400 --> 00:56:58,833 "We took that objective. 861 00:56:58,932 --> 00:57:02,432 "The VC left and their casualties were greater 862 00:57:02,532 --> 00:57:05,099 "than those of the government forces. 863 00:57:05,199 --> 00:57:06,833 What more do you want?" 864 00:57:08,300 --> 00:57:10,632 When Halberstam and Sheehan reported 865 00:57:10,733 --> 00:57:13,632 that Ap Bac had in fact been a defeat, 866 00:57:13,733 --> 00:57:17,800 the U.S. Commander in the Pacific denied it all 867 00:57:17,900 --> 00:57:23,432 and urged the reporters to "get on the team." 868 00:57:23,532 --> 00:57:25,565 SHEEHAN: Ap Bac was terribly important. 869 00:57:25,666 --> 00:57:27,833 They had shot down five helicopters, 870 00:57:27,932 --> 00:57:30,333 which they previously had been terrified of. 871 00:57:30,432 --> 00:57:34,500 They'd stopped the armored personnel carriers. 872 00:57:34,599 --> 00:57:36,599 They demonstrated to their own people 873 00:57:36,699 --> 00:57:39,766 that you could resist the Americans and win. 874 00:57:43,465 --> 00:57:45,699 LE QUAN CONG: 875 00:57:59,432 --> 00:58:03,199 NARRATOR: In Hanoi, the Battle of Ap Bac was seen 876 00:58:03,300 --> 00:58:07,900 by Party First Secretary Le Duan and his Politburo allies 877 00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:10,199 as evidence of the inherent weakness 878 00:58:10,300 --> 00:58:13,266 of the South Vietnamese regime. 879 00:58:13,365 --> 00:58:17,099 Even when faced with American advisors and weaponry, 880 00:58:17,199 --> 00:58:20,965 the Viet Cong had learned how to inflict heavy casualties 881 00:58:21,065 --> 00:58:24,865 on Saigon's forces, and get away again. 882 00:58:26,365 --> 00:58:30,166 In Saigon, President Diem claimed the ARVN were winning, 883 00:58:30,266 --> 00:58:31,500 not losing. 884 00:58:31,599 --> 00:58:34,865 Ap Bac had only been a momentary setback. 885 00:58:34,965 --> 00:58:36,766 And he resented Americans telling him 886 00:58:36,865 --> 00:58:40,465 how to fight his battles or run his country. 887 00:58:40,565 --> 00:58:45,565 The president's sister-in-law, Madame Nhu, went further. 888 00:58:45,666 --> 00:58:50,065 She denounced the Americans as "false brothers." 889 00:58:51,532 --> 00:58:54,333 "We don't have a prayer of staying in Vietnam," 890 00:58:54,432 --> 00:58:58,500 President Kennedy privately told a friend that spring. 891 00:58:58,599 --> 00:59:00,666 "These people hate us. 892 00:59:00,766 --> 00:59:04,099 "But I can't give up a piece of territory like that 893 00:59:04,199 --> 00:59:08,699 to the communists and then get the people to reelect me." 894 00:59:15,432 --> 00:59:17,041 ED HERLIHY: Buddhist monks and nuns are joined 895 00:59:17,065 --> 00:59:18,465 by thousands of sympathizers 896 00:59:18,565 --> 00:59:20,233 to protest the government's restrictions 897 00:59:20,333 --> 00:59:23,266 on the practice of their religion in South Vietnam. 898 00:59:24,865 --> 00:59:28,432 SHEEHAN: Diem began by alienating the rural population. 899 00:59:28,532 --> 00:59:31,099 And that started the Viet Cong. 900 00:59:31,199 --> 00:59:34,032 And now he was alienating the urban population. 901 00:59:34,132 --> 00:59:36,666 HERLIHY: Seventy percent of the population is Buddhist 902 00:59:36,766 --> 00:59:38,341 and the demonstrators clashed with the police 903 00:59:38,365 --> 00:59:42,532 during the week-long series of incidents like this. 904 00:59:42,632 --> 00:59:46,032 NARRATOR: In the months that followed the Battle of Ap Bac, 905 00:59:46,132 --> 00:59:50,800 South Vietnam plunged into civil strife that had little to do 906 00:59:50,900 --> 00:59:53,699 with the Viet Cong. 907 00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:57,766 Religion and nationalism were at its heart. 908 00:59:57,865 --> 01:00:01,599 A Catholic minority had for years dominated the government 909 01:00:01,699 --> 01:00:04,532 of an overwhelmingly Buddhist country. 910 01:00:06,132 --> 01:00:08,532 That spring in the city of Hue, 911 01:00:08,632 --> 01:00:11,565 Christian flags had been flown to celebrate 912 01:00:11,666 --> 01:00:14,800 the 25th anniversary of the ordination 913 01:00:14,900 --> 01:00:17,699 of Diem's older brother as a Catholic bishop. 914 01:00:20,833 --> 01:00:24,166 But when the Buddhists of the city flew their flags 915 01:00:24,266 --> 01:00:29,599 to celebrate the 2,527th birthday of Lord Buddha, 916 01:00:29,699 --> 01:00:32,532 police tore them down. 917 01:00:32,632 --> 01:00:35,266 Protesters took to the streets. 918 01:00:37,365 --> 01:00:41,166 The Catholic deputy province chief sent security forces 919 01:00:41,266 --> 01:00:44,065 to suppress the demonstration. 920 01:00:44,166 --> 01:00:45,733 The soldiers opened fire. 921 01:00:46,833 --> 01:00:49,766 Eight protesters died. 922 01:00:49,865 --> 01:00:55,733 The youngest was 12; the oldest was 20. 923 01:00:55,833 --> 01:00:59,699 The Diem regime blamed the Viet Cong. 924 01:01:01,300 --> 01:01:05,099 Monks throughout the country demanded an apology. 925 01:01:13,965 --> 01:01:16,266 They also called for an end to discrimination 926 01:01:16,365 --> 01:01:18,632 by Catholic officials. 927 01:01:18,733 --> 01:01:21,900 Many Buddhists had come to see Diem's policies 928 01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:25,266 as a direct threat to their religious beliefs. 929 01:01:28,065 --> 01:01:31,699 DUONG VAN MAl: My family was against what Diem was doing. 930 01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:34,365 My mother was convinced 931 01:01:34,465 --> 01:01:38,400 that Diem was destroying the Buddhist faith. 932 01:01:38,500 --> 01:01:42,666 She would go to the pagodas and listen to the monks' speeches. 933 01:01:42,766 --> 01:01:46,132 And she was just extremely upset. 934 01:01:47,500 --> 01:01:48,699 She was not alone. 935 01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:51,599 There was a lot of people like her. 936 01:01:51,699 --> 01:01:55,632 NARRATOR: American officials urged Diem and his brother Nhu 937 01:01:55,733 --> 01:01:59,032 to make meaningful concessions to the Buddhists, 938 01:01:59,132 --> 01:02:01,166 for the sake of maintaining unity 939 01:02:01,266 --> 01:02:03,800 in the struggle against communism. 940 01:02:03,900 --> 01:02:05,532 They refused. 941 01:02:08,065 --> 01:02:13,032 On June 10, 1963, Malcolm Browne of the Associated Press 942 01:02:13,132 --> 01:02:16,000 received an anonymous tip: 943 01:02:16,099 --> 01:02:19,266 Something important was going to happen the next day 944 01:02:19,365 --> 01:02:22,766 at a major intersection in Saigon. 945 01:02:22,865 --> 01:02:24,800 He took his camera. 946 01:02:32,333 --> 01:02:35,699 To protest the Diem regime's repression, 947 01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:42,199 a 73-year-old monk named Quang Duc set himself on fire. 948 01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:04,932 As a large, hushed crowd watched him burn to death, 949 01:03:05,032 --> 01:03:08,465 another monk repeated over and over again 950 01:03:08,565 --> 01:03:11,500 in English and Vietnamese, 951 01:03:11,599 --> 01:03:14,532 "A Buddhist monk becomes a martyr. 952 01:03:14,632 --> 01:03:17,266 A Buddhist monk becomes a martyr." 953 01:03:24,065 --> 01:03:26,932 SHEEHAN: I remember they held the ashes 954 01:03:27,032 --> 01:03:29,532 of the monk who burned himself to death 955 01:03:29,632 --> 01:03:32,632 where it was kept in one of the main pagodas. 956 01:03:32,733 --> 01:03:38,833 And lines of people came to pass by, and I saw these women, 957 01:03:38,932 --> 01:03:41,900 not rich women, ordinary Vietnamese women, 958 01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:44,965 take off the one piece of gold they had on, their wedding ring, 959 01:03:45,065 --> 01:03:49,965 and drop it in the bottle to contribute to the struggle. 960 01:03:50,065 --> 01:03:53,900 And I thought to myself, "This regime is over. 961 01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:55,065 It's the end." 962 01:03:59,166 --> 01:04:01,766 NARRATOR: Soon other monks would become martyrs. 963 01:04:05,032 --> 01:04:10,565 Fresh outbursts by Madame Nhu only made things worse. 964 01:04:10,666 --> 01:04:14,132 Burning monks made her clap her hands, she said. 965 01:04:14,233 --> 01:04:16,800 If more monks wanted to burn themselves, 966 01:04:16,900 --> 01:04:20,000 she would provide the matches. 967 01:04:20,099 --> 01:04:21,965 The only thing they have done, 968 01:04:22,065 --> 01:04:27,766 they have barbecued one of their monks, 969 01:04:27,865 --> 01:04:33,400 whom they have intoxicated, whom they have abused the confidence. 970 01:04:33,500 --> 01:04:37,800 And even that barbecuing was done 971 01:04:37,900 --> 01:04:40,132 not even with self-sufficient means 972 01:04:40,233 --> 01:04:43,266 because they-they used imported gasoline. 973 01:04:44,965 --> 01:04:47,599 DUONG VAN MAl: They thought she was arrogant, 974 01:04:47,699 --> 01:04:49,166 she was power hungry. 975 01:04:49,266 --> 01:04:52,532 They suspected her and her husband of being corrupt. 976 01:04:52,632 --> 01:04:58,900 Nhu ran the secret police, which arrested and tortured people. 977 01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:02,199 People feared the Diem regime. 978 01:05:02,300 --> 01:05:05,865 Perhaps more than they feared it, they really hated it. 979 01:05:08,132 --> 01:05:10,766 NARRATOR: Students, including many Catholics, 980 01:05:10,865 --> 01:05:13,333 rallied to the Buddhist cause. 981 01:05:13,432 --> 01:05:16,632 So did some army officers. 982 01:05:16,733 --> 01:05:21,000 People among the military had to ask the question, 983 01:05:21,099 --> 01:05:24,400 "Can we continue this kind of situation like that 984 01:05:24,500 --> 01:05:27,900 "when the whole country, country was almost burning 985 01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:29,709 with the kind of protest from the Buddhists?" 986 01:05:29,733 --> 01:05:30,733 You see? 987 01:05:34,333 --> 01:05:38,266 ZIMMERMAN: I first became aware of Vietnam because of a burning monk. 988 01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:45,599 We had watched the civil rights movement in the South 989 01:05:45,699 --> 01:05:48,599 and it had set the standard for us 990 01:05:48,699 --> 01:05:55,032 to stand up against injustice, allow yourself to be beaten up, 991 01:05:55,132 --> 01:05:57,432 allow yourself to be attacked by a dog 992 01:05:57,532 --> 01:05:59,865 or hit by a police truncheon. 993 01:05:59,965 --> 01:06:01,833 And we had enormous respect 994 01:06:01,932 --> 01:06:05,065 for people who were willing to go that far. 995 01:06:09,465 --> 01:06:12,365 And then one day in 1963, 996 01:06:12,465 --> 01:06:16,900 we saw on television a picture of a monk in Saigon. 997 01:06:18,333 --> 01:06:20,465 This was an extraordinary act. 998 01:06:22,865 --> 01:06:25,666 Why was a Buddhist monk burning himself 999 01:06:25,766 --> 01:06:28,500 on the streets of Saigon? 1000 01:06:31,233 --> 01:06:33,632 NARRATOR: The protests continued. 1001 01:06:33,733 --> 01:06:38,565 Tensions between Washington and Saigon steadily worsened. 1002 01:06:38,666 --> 01:06:42,565 The more the Kennedy Administration demanded change, 1003 01:06:42,666 --> 01:06:46,632 the more Diem and his brother Nhu seemed to resist. 1004 01:06:48,300 --> 01:06:51,033 The White House announced that a new American ambassador, 1005 01:06:51,132 --> 01:06:56,265 former senator Henry Cabot Lodge, was being sent to Saigon, 1006 01:06:56,365 --> 01:06:58,832 a man eminent enough, the president hoped, 1007 01:06:58,932 --> 01:07:04,000 to make Diem listen more closely to American advice. 1008 01:07:04,100 --> 01:07:07,865 Diem professed to be unimpressed. 1009 01:07:07,966 --> 01:07:10,600 "They can send ten Lodges," he said, 1010 01:07:10,699 --> 01:07:14,632 "but I will not let myself or my country be humiliated, 1011 01:07:14,733 --> 01:07:18,500 not if they train their artillery on this palace." 1012 01:07:18,600 --> 01:07:23,166 He did promise the outgoing ambassador, Frederick Nolting, 1013 01:07:23,265 --> 01:07:26,000 that he would take no further repressive steps 1014 01:07:26,100 --> 01:07:27,666 against the Buddhists. 1015 01:07:29,432 --> 01:07:34,666 Then, a few minutes after midnight on August 21, 1963, 1016 01:07:34,765 --> 01:07:38,233 with Nolting gone and Henry Cabot Lodge's arrival 1017 01:07:38,332 --> 01:07:41,865 still one day away, Diem cut the phone lines 1018 01:07:41,966 --> 01:07:45,300 of all the senior American officials in Saigon 1019 01:07:45,399 --> 01:07:48,932 and sent hundreds of his Special Forces 1020 01:07:49,033 --> 01:07:52,832 storming into Buddhist pagodas in Saigon, Hue, 1021 01:07:52,932 --> 01:07:56,132 and several other South Vietnamese cities. 1022 01:07:56,233 --> 01:07:59,000 Some 1,400 monks and nuns, 1023 01:07:59,100 --> 01:08:04,699 students and ordinary citizens were rounded up and taken away. 1024 01:08:12,533 --> 01:08:16,966 Martial law was imposed, public meetings were forbidden, 1025 01:08:17,065 --> 01:08:21,466 troops were authorized to shoot anyone found on the streets 1026 01:08:21,565 --> 01:08:23,199 after 9:00. 1027 01:08:23,300 --> 01:08:26,600 PETER ROBERTS: Tanks guard a pagoda in Saigon 1028 01:08:26,699 --> 01:08:29,365 during South Vietnam's bafflingly complicated crisis 1029 01:08:29,466 --> 01:08:32,466 that has the government of President Ngo Dinh Diem, 1030 01:08:32,565 --> 01:08:36,300 students, and Buddhists, and the United States government 1031 01:08:36,399 --> 01:08:40,000 all trying to guess one another's next move. 1032 01:08:40,100 --> 01:08:43,899 NARRATOR: When college students protested in support of the monks, 1033 01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:47,533 Diem closed Vietnam's universities. 1034 01:08:47,632 --> 01:08:51,399 High school students then poured into the streets. 1035 01:08:51,500 --> 01:08:54,065 He shut down all the high schools 1036 01:08:54,166 --> 01:08:55,332 and the grammar schools, too, 1037 01:08:55,432 --> 01:08:58,666 and arrested thousands of school children, 1038 01:08:58,765 --> 01:09:01,632 including the sons and daughters of officials 1039 01:09:01,733 --> 01:09:03,699 in his own government. 1040 01:09:03,800 --> 01:09:06,865 PHAN QUANG TUE: I participated in the demonstrations. 1041 01:09:06,966 --> 01:09:13,832 I strongly believed that that government has to be overthrown 1042 01:09:13,932 --> 01:09:16,033 because it's a dictator government. 1043 01:09:16,132 --> 01:09:18,100 We couldn't stand it anymore 1044 01:09:18,199 --> 01:09:21,865 and this is an opportunity to rise against it. 1045 01:09:21,966 --> 01:09:25,932 NARRATOR: Phan Quang Tue was a law student that summer. 1046 01:09:26,033 --> 01:09:29,932 His father was a prominent nationalist whom Diem had jailed 1047 01:09:30,033 --> 01:09:33,265 for calling for greater democracy. 1048 01:09:33,365 --> 01:09:36,865 PHAN QUANG TUE: I was and I'm still a Catholic, 1049 01:09:36,966 --> 01:09:39,199 not a very good Catholic. 1050 01:09:39,300 --> 01:09:41,132 I don't practice religiously. 1051 01:09:41,233 --> 01:09:43,132 But I'm a Catholic. 1052 01:09:44,632 --> 01:09:46,065 I was rightly arrested 1053 01:09:46,166 --> 01:09:49,233 because I did participate in demonstration. 1054 01:09:49,332 --> 01:09:52,233 And I was interrogated 1055 01:09:52,332 --> 01:09:55,399 and briefly tortured, beaten a little bit. 1056 01:09:59,699 --> 01:10:02,500 HERLIHY: Henry Cabot Lodge took over as U.S. ambassador 1057 01:10:02,600 --> 01:10:04,065 in the midst of the turmoil. 1058 01:10:04,166 --> 01:10:05,576 And he has reported to have demanded 1059 01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:07,765 that President Diem's brother Nhu be ousted 1060 01:10:07,865 --> 01:10:10,233 or U.S. aid to Vietnam will be cut. 1061 01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:15,500 NARRATOR: In the wake of the pagoda raids, 1062 01:10:15,600 --> 01:10:17,966 a small group of South Vietnamese generals 1063 01:10:18,065 --> 01:10:21,632 contacted the CIA in Saigon. 1064 01:10:21,733 --> 01:10:25,166 Diem's brother Nhu was now largely in control 1065 01:10:25,265 --> 01:10:27,233 of the government, they said. 1066 01:10:27,332 --> 01:10:31,966 What would Washington's reaction be if they mounted a coup? 1067 01:10:32,065 --> 01:10:35,065 President Kennedy and his senior advisors 1068 01:10:35,166 --> 01:10:39,966 happened to be out of town, so Roger Hilsman, Jr., 1069 01:10:40,065 --> 01:10:43,533 assistant secretary of state for Far Eastern affairs 1070 01:10:43,632 --> 01:10:45,932 and a critic of the Diem regime, 1071 01:10:46,033 --> 01:10:50,065 took it upon himself to draft a cable with new instructions 1072 01:10:50,166 --> 01:10:53,000 for Ambassador Lodge. 1073 01:10:53,100 --> 01:10:56,966 The U.S. government could no longer tolerate a situation 1074 01:10:57,065 --> 01:11:01,233 in which power lay in Nhu's hands, it said. 1075 01:11:01,332 --> 01:11:04,565 Diem should be given a chance to rid himself of his brother. 1076 01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:09,533 If he refused, Lodge was to tell the generals, 1077 01:11:09,632 --> 01:11:13,132 "then we must face the possibility that Diem himself 1078 01:11:13,233 --> 01:11:17,000 cannot be preserved." 1079 01:11:17,100 --> 01:11:20,733 The president was vacationing at Hyannis Port, Massachusetts. 1080 01:11:20,832 --> 01:11:24,699 Undersecretary of State George Ball read part of the cable 1081 01:11:24,800 --> 01:11:27,865 to him over the phone. 1082 01:11:27,966 --> 01:11:30,132 Since the early 1950s, 1083 01:11:30,233 --> 01:11:31,875 the United States government had encouraged 1084 01:11:31,899 --> 01:11:38,132 and even orchestrated other Cold War coups in Iran, Guatemala, 1085 01:11:38,233 --> 01:11:42,632 the Congo, and elsewhere. 1086 01:11:42,733 --> 01:11:46,565 Kennedy decided to approve Hilsman's cable 1087 01:11:46,666 --> 01:11:49,800 in part because he thought his top advisors 1088 01:11:49,899 --> 01:11:51,932 had already endorsed it. 1089 01:11:52,033 --> 01:11:54,832 They had not. 1090 01:11:54,932 --> 01:12:00,033 And somehow, because of a cable that came out from Washington, 1091 01:12:00,132 --> 01:12:03,432 Lodge decided that the only solution was to get rid 1092 01:12:03,533 --> 01:12:07,233 of not just Ngo Dinh Nhu, the bad brother, 1093 01:12:07,332 --> 01:12:09,765 but also of Diem himself. 1094 01:12:09,865 --> 01:12:11,932 And that started us on this whole business 1095 01:12:12,033 --> 01:12:14,800 of promoting a coup. 1096 01:12:14,899 --> 01:12:18,265 And it was not a good idea. 1097 01:12:18,365 --> 01:12:21,132 I just had a feeling of impending disaster. 1098 01:12:22,332 --> 01:12:24,932 NARRATOR: On September 2, 1963, 1099 01:12:25,033 --> 01:12:28,666 Labor Day, Walter Cronkite of CBS News 1100 01:12:28,765 --> 01:12:31,265 interviewed President Kennedy. 1101 01:12:31,365 --> 01:12:35,365 The president used the opportunity to deliver a message 1102 01:12:35,466 --> 01:12:37,233 to President Diem. 1103 01:12:37,332 --> 01:12:41,065 Mr. President, the only hot war we've got running at the moment 1104 01:12:41,166 --> 01:12:43,632 is of course the one in Vietnam, 1105 01:12:43,733 --> 01:12:46,565 and we've got our difficulties there, quite obviously. 1106 01:12:46,666 --> 01:12:51,166 I don't think that unless a greater effort is made 1107 01:12:51,265 --> 01:12:53,132 by the government to win popular support 1108 01:12:53,233 --> 01:12:54,600 that the war can be won out there. 1109 01:12:54,699 --> 01:12:56,565 In the final analysis, it's their war. 1110 01:12:56,666 --> 01:13:00,533 Hasn't every indication from Saigon been 1111 01:13:00,632 --> 01:13:02,666 that President Diem has no intention 1112 01:13:02,765 --> 01:13:03,666 of changing his pattern? 1113 01:13:03,765 --> 01:13:04,666 If he doesn't change it, 1114 01:13:04,765 --> 01:13:06,600 of course, that's his decision. 1115 01:13:06,699 --> 01:13:08,699 He has been there ten years and, as I say, 1116 01:13:08,800 --> 01:13:10,065 he has carried this burden 1117 01:13:10,166 --> 01:13:11,576 when he has been counted out on a number of occasions. 1118 01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:12,600 Our best judgment is 1119 01:13:12,699 --> 01:13:15,199 that he can't be successful in this basis. 1120 01:13:15,300 --> 01:13:17,865 But I don't agree with those who say we should withdraw. 1121 01:13:17,966 --> 01:13:19,166 That would be a great mistake. 1122 01:13:19,233 --> 01:13:20,500 That'd be a great mistake. 1123 01:13:20,600 --> 01:13:22,520 I know people don't like Americans to be engaged 1124 01:13:22,565 --> 01:13:23,605 in this kind of an effort. 1125 01:13:23,666 --> 01:13:26,033 47 Americans have been killed. 1126 01:13:26,132 --> 01:13:28,033 We're in a very 1127 01:13:28,132 --> 01:13:30,899 desperate struggle against the communist system. 1128 01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:34,233 And I don't want Asia to pass into the control of the Chinese. 1129 01:13:34,332 --> 01:13:36,466 Do you think that this government still has time 1130 01:13:36,565 --> 01:13:39,000 to-to regain the support of the people? 1131 01:13:39,100 --> 01:13:41,533 I do. 1132 01:13:41,632 --> 01:13:44,332 With changes in policy and perhaps in personnel, 1133 01:13:44,432 --> 01:13:45,865 I think it can. 1134 01:13:45,966 --> 01:13:49,233 If it doesn't make those changes, 1135 01:13:49,332 --> 01:13:51,533 I would think that the chances of winning it 1136 01:13:51,632 --> 01:13:53,300 would not be very good. 1137 01:13:55,033 --> 01:13:57,832 NARRATOR: Despite the cable, Kennedy and his advisors 1138 01:13:57,932 --> 01:14:01,265 were sharply divided about a coup. 1139 01:14:01,365 --> 01:14:06,632 Robert McNamara, Maxwell Taylor, Vice President Lyndon Johnson, 1140 01:14:06,733 --> 01:14:11,065 and the head of the CIA all cautioned against it, 1141 01:14:11,166 --> 01:14:14,565 because, while none of them especially admired Diem, 1142 01:14:14,666 --> 01:14:19,233 they did not believe there was any viable alternative. 1143 01:14:19,332 --> 01:14:22,300 GREGG: Fritz Nolting was called in. 1144 01:14:22,399 --> 01:14:24,832 And he said, "As difficult as they are to deal with, 1145 01:14:24,932 --> 01:14:29,865 "there is nobody with the guts and sangfroid in Vietnam 1146 01:14:29,966 --> 01:14:31,666 "of Diem and his brother Nhu. 1147 01:14:31,765 --> 01:14:35,132 "And if we let them go we will be saddled 1148 01:14:35,233 --> 01:14:39,100 by a descending cycle of mediocre generals." 1149 01:14:39,199 --> 01:14:41,166 And he was absolutely correct. 1150 01:14:42,832 --> 01:14:45,666 NARRATOR: But several State Department officials believed 1151 01:14:45,765 --> 01:14:50,500 that without fresh leadership, South Vietnam could not survive. 1152 01:14:50,600 --> 01:14:53,865 The debate intensified. 1153 01:14:55,033 --> 01:14:56,899 "My God," the president said, 1154 01:14:57,000 --> 01:15:00,332 "my administration is coming apart." 1155 01:15:00,432 --> 01:15:03,765 In the end, Kennedy instructed Lodge 1156 01:15:03,865 --> 01:15:06,166 to tell the renegade generals 1157 01:15:06,265 --> 01:15:08,565 that while the United States does not wish 1158 01:15:08,666 --> 01:15:12,733 to stimulate a coup, it would not thwart one either. 1159 01:15:14,233 --> 01:15:17,265 The generals laid their plans. 1160 01:15:23,600 --> 01:15:29,199 On November 1, 1963, troops loyal to the plotters 1161 01:15:29,300 --> 01:15:31,399 seized key installations in Saigon 1162 01:15:31,500 --> 01:15:34,966 and demanded Diem and Nhu surrender. 1163 01:15:37,500 --> 01:15:39,932 REPORTER: The battle for the city went on for 18 hours 1164 01:15:40,033 --> 01:15:43,265 and most of it was centered on the presidential palace. 1165 01:15:43,365 --> 01:15:46,832 Just after 6:30 in the morning Saturday, the shooting ceased. 1166 01:15:55,765 --> 01:16:01,065 NARRATOR: Diem and Nhu escaped, took sanctuary in a church, 1167 01:16:01,166 --> 01:16:04,132 and agreed to surrender to the rebels in exchange 1168 01:16:04,233 --> 01:16:07,966 for the promise of safe passage out of the country. 1169 01:16:08,065 --> 01:16:11,533 They were picked up in an armored personnel carrier... 1170 01:16:13,632 --> 01:16:17,733 And murdered soon after they climbed inside. 1171 01:16:22,533 --> 01:16:25,899 Madame Nhu survived the coup. 1172 01:16:26,000 --> 01:16:29,265 She was on a goodwill tour in the United States. 1173 01:16:34,500 --> 01:16:37,033 PHAN QUANG TUE: The system was overthrown on November 1. 1174 01:16:37,132 --> 01:16:39,733 I was released November 4. 1175 01:16:39,832 --> 01:16:45,932 And it was the most exciting moment in the life of Saigon. 1176 01:16:47,765 --> 01:16:53,033 The excitement, you could feel it in the air. 1177 01:16:53,132 --> 01:16:57,565 DUONG VAN MAl: I was thinking that, yeah, it's a good thing. 1178 01:16:57,666 --> 01:17:01,300 Diem was making it impossible to win the war 1179 01:17:01,399 --> 01:17:04,865 because people were so against him 1180 01:17:04,966 --> 01:17:09,466 that the war would be lost if he stayed in power. 1181 01:17:11,100 --> 01:17:13,166 My father was a bit worried 1182 01:17:13,265 --> 01:17:15,385 because he didn't know who was going to replace Diem. 1183 01:17:18,166 --> 01:17:20,699 NARRATOR: Ambassador Lodge reported to Washington 1184 01:17:20,800 --> 01:17:25,332 that "every Vietnamese has a smile on his face today." 1185 01:17:25,432 --> 01:17:29,033 "The prospects are now for a shorter war," he said, 1186 01:17:29,132 --> 01:17:32,000 "provided the generals stay together. 1187 01:17:32,100 --> 01:17:34,832 "Certainly officers and soldiers 1188 01:17:34,932 --> 01:17:38,033 who can pull off an operation like this," he continued, 1189 01:17:38,132 --> 01:17:41,466 "should be able to do very well on the battlefield 1190 01:17:41,565 --> 01:17:44,033 if their hearts are in it." 1191 01:17:46,800 --> 01:17:49,932 President Kennedy was not so sure. 1192 01:17:50,033 --> 01:17:54,265 He was appalled that Diem and Nhu had been killed. 1193 01:17:54,365 --> 01:17:57,966 Three days later, he dictated his own rueful account 1194 01:17:58,065 --> 01:18:02,199 of the coup and his concerns for the future. 1195 01:18:03,800 --> 01:18:07,600 KENNEDY: Monday, November 4, 1963. 1196 01:18:07,699 --> 01:18:10,632 Over the weekend the coup in Saigon took place. 1197 01:18:10,733 --> 01:18:13,500 It culminated three months of conversation, 1198 01:18:13,600 --> 01:18:18,765 which divided the government here and in Saigon. 1199 01:18:18,865 --> 01:18:23,966 I feel that we must bear a good deal of responsibility for it, 1200 01:18:24,065 --> 01:18:27,000 beginning with our cable of August 1201 01:18:27,100 --> 01:18:29,699 in which we suggested the coup. 1202 01:18:29,800 --> 01:18:32,600 I should not have given my consent to it 1203 01:18:32,699 --> 01:18:34,966 without a roundtable conference. 1204 01:18:37,000 --> 01:18:42,365 I was shocked by the death of Diem and Nhu. 1205 01:18:42,466 --> 01:18:46,500 The way he was killed made it particularly abhorrent. 1206 01:18:46,600 --> 01:18:49,132 The question now is whether the generals can stay together 1207 01:18:49,233 --> 01:18:53,000 and build a stable government or whether public opinion in Saigon 1208 01:18:53,100 --> 01:18:56,765 will turn on this government as repressive and undemocratic 1209 01:18:56,865 --> 01:18:58,800 in the not-too-distant future. 1210 01:19:03,832 --> 01:19:06,132 NARRATOR: Kennedy would not live to see the answer 1211 01:19:06,233 --> 01:19:08,733 to the question he had asked. 1212 01:19:08,832 --> 01:19:13,233 He was murdered in Dallas 18 days later. 1213 01:19:13,332 --> 01:19:18,300 There were now 16,000 American advisors in South Vietnam. 1214 01:19:18,399 --> 01:19:23,733 Their fate and the fate of that embattled country rested 1215 01:19:23,832 --> 01:19:29,000 with another American president, Lyndon Baines Johnson. 1216 01:19:46,500 --> 01:19:48,660 SHEEHAN: We thought we were the exceptions to history, 1217 01:19:48,733 --> 01:19:50,199 we Americans. 1218 01:19:50,300 --> 01:19:52,932 History didn't apply to us. 1219 01:19:53,033 --> 01:19:55,166 We could never fight a bad war. 1220 01:19:55,265 --> 01:19:57,132 We could never represent the wrong cause. 1221 01:19:57,233 --> 01:19:58,365 We were Americans. 1222 01:19:59,565 --> 01:20:00,800 Well, in Vietnam it proved 1223 01:20:00,899 --> 01:20:03,399 that we were not an exception to history. 1224 01:20:22,600 --> 01:20:30,600 ? This is a mean old world to live in all by yourself ? 1225 01:20:36,100 --> 01:20:42,332 ? This is a mean old world to live in ? 1226 01:20:42,432 --> 01:20:45,132 ? All by yourself 1227 01:20:48,966 --> 01:20:56,000 ? This is a mean world to be alone ? 1228 01:20:56,100 --> 01:21:02,033 ? Without someone to call your own ? 1229 01:21:02,132 --> 01:21:08,132 ? This is a mean old world to try and live in ? 1230 01:21:08,233 --> 01:21:10,699 ? All by yourself 1231 01:21:14,932 --> 01:21:21,033 ? I wish I had someone, someone ? 1232 01:21:21,132 --> 01:21:23,365 ? Who'd love me true 1233 01:21:27,800 --> 01:21:35,800 ? I wish I had someone who loved me true ? 1234 01:21:40,632 --> 01:21:47,000 ? If I had someone who loved me true ? 1235 01:21:47,100 --> 01:21:53,600 ? Then I know I wouldn't be so blue ? 1236 01:21:53,699 --> 01:22:00,265 ? This is a mean old world to try and live in ? 1237 01:22:00,365 --> 01:22:02,865 ? All by yourself 1238 01:22:05,132 --> 01:22:13,132 ? 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