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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,900 --> 00:00:01,060 We're gonna have a good time. We're gonna have a party. 2 00:00:01,060 --> 00:00:03,420 MAN: Just what is it that you want to do? 3 00:00:03,540 --> 00:00:05,620 2ND MAN: We want to be free. 4 00:00:05,780 --> 00:00:08,380 We want to be free to do what we want to do. 5 00:00:08,540 --> 00:00:11,060 And we wanna get loaded and we wanna have a good time. 6 00:00:11,220 --> 00:00:13,980 That's what we're gonna do. 3RD MAN: Away baby, let's go. 7 00:00:14,140 --> 00:00:16,900 We're gonna have a good time. We're gonna have a party. 8 00:00:44,460 --> 00:00:48,140 In the early to mid '90s, British pop music went through a sea change, 9 00:00:48,300 --> 00:00:50,820 which was reminiscence of the swinging '60s. 10 00:00:50,980 --> 00:00:54,220 Independent pop groups, most of them from working-class backgrounds, 11 00:00:54,380 --> 00:00:58,060 invaded the pop charts by creating a musical identity 12 00:00:58,220 --> 00:01:01,260 which was both optimistic and quintessentially British. 13 00:01:01,420 --> 00:01:03,580 The celebratory atmosphere this created 14 00:01:03,740 --> 00:01:07,260 was in stark contrast to the era of social conflict of the 1980s 15 00:01:07,420 --> 00:01:09,580 under the government of Margaret Thatcher. 16 00:01:09,700 --> 00:01:11,620 These were the Britpop years. 17 00:01:11,780 --> 00:01:14,300 It was a point in time you just felt the music's right, 18 00:01:14,460 --> 00:01:16,500 the politic is right, and the football's right, 19 00:01:16,660 --> 00:01:18,540 all at once, it all seemed really cool. 20 00:01:18,740 --> 00:01:22,340 A new generation wanting to steal the thunder of the people who'd come before. 21 00:01:22,500 --> 00:01:26,220 That stuff is absolutely vital. It's the very heartbeat of what, uh, 22 00:01:26,340 --> 00:01:28,540 makes the rock'n'roll cycle tick. 23 00:01:28,700 --> 00:01:32,900 The whole climate in the UK was changing, you know. 24 00:01:33,020 --> 00:01:35,580 Imperceptibly really, but it was. 25 00:01:35,740 --> 00:01:40,060 It was changing. And then, all of a sudden, everyone thought, 26 00:01:40,220 --> 00:01:43,140 "We're on a roll," you know. It's like... 27 00:01:43,260 --> 00:01:45,380 Britain's back. 28 00:01:46,500 --> 00:01:50,020 # Oh, we were born within an hour of each other 29 00:01:50,180 --> 00:02:02,580 # Our mothers said we could be sister and brother # 30 00:02:02,740 --> 00:02:04,820 It's not imaginary, it's not exaggerated, 31 00:02:04,980 --> 00:02:07,500 it's not romanticised, it's woodchip on the wall. 32 00:02:07,620 --> 00:02:10,820 # With woodchip on the wall 33 00:02:10,940 --> 00:02:14,020 # When I came round to call # 34 00:02:14,220 --> 00:02:18,220 One thing we're really good at making in this country is intelligent pop music. 35 00:02:18,380 --> 00:02:21,900 You know, it doesn't have to be lowbrow, you know, it can be really, 36 00:02:22,060 --> 00:02:24,620 you know, witty and sharp, and intelligent, and I was... 37 00:02:24,780 --> 00:02:28,020 If you look at the kind of the bands that came through in that period 38 00:02:28,180 --> 00:02:32,220 of Britpop. I mean, you've got some very, very good songwriters. 39 00:02:32,340 --> 00:02:34,780 Suddenly, their moment had arrived. 40 00:02:34,940 --> 00:02:38,500 # London ice cracks on a seamless line 41 00:02:39,580 --> 00:02:42,660 # He's hanging on for dear life # 42 00:02:42,860 --> 00:02:47,420 Just as had been the case in the 1960s, when the Beatles confronted the Rolling Stones, 43 00:02:47,580 --> 00:02:51,180 two groups found themselves at the heart of this cultural revolution. 44 00:02:51,340 --> 00:02:54,980 Blur, a group from the nation's capital locked horns with Oasis, 45 00:02:55,140 --> 00:02:57,940 a group from Burnage, a working-class suburb of Manchester. 46 00:02:59,940 --> 00:03:04,100 Blur seemed very good at making mainstream pop 47 00:03:04,220 --> 00:03:06,860 really exciting and more accessible. 48 00:03:07,020 --> 00:03:09,860 Oasis just felt like a juggernaut coming through the house. 49 00:03:10,020 --> 00:03:12,500 Oasis felt like when the Sex Pistols arrived, 50 00:03:12,660 --> 00:03:16,700 it felt, uh, like nobody saw it coming. 51 00:03:16,860 --> 00:03:19,180 And they had a singer, Liam Gallagher, 52 00:03:19,300 --> 00:03:21,500 that looked like a proper rock star. 53 00:03:21,620 --> 00:03:25,500 And they had total gang attitude. 54 00:03:25,620 --> 00:03:28,140 # Tonight 55 00:03:28,260 --> 00:03:30,700 # I'm a rock'n'roll star... # 56 00:03:30,900 --> 00:03:34,980 The popularity of both groups gave rise to a bitter rivalry between them. 57 00:03:35,180 --> 00:03:39,020 Who of Blur and Oasis would prove to be the major pop group of their generation? 58 00:03:39,180 --> 00:03:41,620 In 1995, the story gripped the nation. 59 00:03:41,820 --> 00:03:46,260 But it was only the last stage of a cultural upheaval which started almost a decade earlier. 60 00:03:46,420 --> 00:03:51,380 Right about '94... '93, '94, '95, there was this huge 61 00:03:51,540 --> 00:03:54,620 momentum of change going on in Britain. 62 00:03:54,740 --> 00:03:57,260 Um, but it went all the way back. 63 00:04:02,620 --> 00:04:04,380 As the 1990s dawned, 64 00:04:04,540 --> 00:04:08,100 Britain was in its tenth of a Tory government led by Margaret Thatcher. 65 00:04:08,300 --> 00:04:11,820 Economic policies had led to a country deeply divided between rich and poor 66 00:04:11,980 --> 00:04:15,180 and a situation where certain cities of the North, such as Manchester, 67 00:04:15,300 --> 00:04:17,220 were more or less left to rot. 68 00:04:18,540 --> 00:04:23,380 Despite the fact that in 1990, Margaret Thatcher was forced by her own party to step down, 69 00:04:23,540 --> 00:04:25,780 the Conservatives continued to rule the country. 70 00:04:25,900 --> 00:04:27,900 Ladies and gentlemen, 71 00:04:28,060 --> 00:04:30,700 we're leaving Downing Street for the last time 72 00:04:30,860 --> 00:04:33,700 after eleven-and-a-half wonderful years. 73 00:04:33,860 --> 00:04:38,300 And we're very happy that we leave United Kingdom 74 00:04:38,420 --> 00:04:40,660 in a very, very much better state 75 00:04:40,820 --> 00:04:43,940 than when we came here elven-and-half years ago. 76 00:04:44,100 --> 00:04:47,620 The Conservative government, it changed personnel, 77 00:04:47,780 --> 00:04:50,780 but the Conservatives themselves had been governing the country 78 00:04:50,900 --> 00:04:53,100 for something like 15 years. 79 00:04:53,220 --> 00:04:56,500 And...there was this sense of, like, 80 00:04:56,700 --> 00:05:00,940 we're gonna have to do it ourselves cos they're not actually gonna help the people. 81 00:05:01,140 --> 00:05:06,340 For young people, the only answer to a society which offered them no future was to party. 82 00:05:06,540 --> 00:05:10,820 The way forward was shown by an independent record label owner and TV presenter in Manchester, 83 00:05:10,940 --> 00:05:12,940 called Tony Wilson. 84 00:05:13,100 --> 00:05:15,060 His passion for music and for his own city 85 00:05:15,220 --> 00:05:18,500 led him to reinvest the profits from his label, Factory Records, 86 00:05:18,660 --> 00:05:21,500 whose recording artists included Joy Division and New Order, 87 00:05:21,660 --> 00:05:24,180 back into the youth culture of the city. 88 00:05:24,380 --> 00:05:28,140 The centre of this strategy was the opening of a club called The Hacienda. 89 00:05:28,300 --> 00:05:31,180 This is The Hacienda. You know, it may not look much, 90 00:05:31,340 --> 00:05:33,780 but it is the cathedral to house music in Britain. 91 00:05:35,580 --> 00:05:39,020 Life-size picture of Tony Wilson's head inside there. Yeah. 92 00:05:39,180 --> 00:05:42,580 In a real sense, it was here on the dance floor of The Hacienda 93 00:05:42,740 --> 00:05:45,260 that the cultural revolution in the 1990s took flight. 94 00:05:45,420 --> 00:05:47,860 This is the gateway to the dance floor. 95 00:05:48,020 --> 00:05:51,660 The musical soundtrack of this new cultural revolution was acid house 96 00:05:51,820 --> 00:05:55,780 and its drug of predilection, a new and euphoric one called ecstasy. 97 00:05:55,900 --> 00:05:59,340 (ACID HOUSE MUSIC) 98 00:05:59,500 --> 00:06:03,100 In the early '90s, The Hacienda was to spread its message nationally 99 00:06:03,300 --> 00:06:07,300 resulting in a wave of illegal open-air parties throughout the country known as raves. 100 00:06:09,940 --> 00:06:11,900 There's a great saying about the '60s. 101 00:06:12,100 --> 00:06:15,620 It was two people who are having a party and everyone else trying to find it. 102 00:06:15,780 --> 00:06:17,980 And I think the '90s, everybody found the party. 103 00:06:18,140 --> 00:06:22,380 Instead of going to a shit nightclub with a big plastic palm tree 104 00:06:22,580 --> 00:06:27,140 and somebody playing a set of records that they played every single week, 105 00:06:27,340 --> 00:06:31,700 there was this sense of you would drive, not knowing where the rave was. 106 00:06:31,860 --> 00:06:34,020 And this was going on all over the country. 107 00:06:34,140 --> 00:06:37,260 You would find yourself in a field 108 00:06:37,420 --> 00:06:40,940 out in the home counties, or in a field outside Blackburn 109 00:06:41,100 --> 00:06:43,860 with these huge lasers projecting across. 110 00:06:44,020 --> 00:06:49,460 Suddenly, it felt like young people could create control 111 00:06:49,580 --> 00:06:52,700 and own their own entertainment. 112 00:06:52,860 --> 00:06:55,900 The audience and the DJs became the artists. 113 00:06:56,060 --> 00:07:00,780 # Oh, is this the way they say the future's meant to feel? 114 00:07:00,940 --> 00:07:06,140 # Or just 20,000 people standing in a field 115 00:07:06,300 --> 00:07:10,740 # And I don't quite understand just what this feeling is 116 00:07:10,900 --> 00:07:15,620 # But that's OK cos we're all sorted out for Es and whizz 117 00:07:15,740 --> 00:07:18,300 # And tell me when... # 118 00:07:18,420 --> 00:07:20,420 BROWN: Lots of things changed. 119 00:07:20,620 --> 00:07:24,580 Drugs no longer became the domain of just rock stars and junkies and the privileged. 120 00:07:24,780 --> 00:07:28,860 They became, after ecstasy, something that became part of the social life. 121 00:07:28,980 --> 00:07:31,140 Part of the social fabric. 122 00:07:36,380 --> 00:07:40,300 It was Manchester which remained the epicentre of this new tide of optimism. 123 00:07:40,460 --> 00:07:42,540 Manchester thus became known as Madchester, 124 00:07:42,700 --> 00:07:45,300 as a sort of creative frenzy took hold of the city. 125 00:07:47,300 --> 00:07:51,980 The one group who came to symbolise this popular creative upheaval were The Stone Roses, 126 00:07:52,100 --> 00:07:54,140 a band from Manchester whose music 127 00:07:54,300 --> 00:07:56,180 made the connection between acid house 128 00:07:56,380 --> 00:08:00,660 and the guitar-based pop music which was to follow and be baptised Britpop. 129 00:08:02,100 --> 00:08:05,180 I think the Roses were never actually an acid house band. 130 00:08:05,380 --> 00:08:08,940 The reason people bought their records is cos they were kind of psychedelic-ish. 131 00:08:09,100 --> 00:08:11,820 They're going to these clubs, they understand this culture, 132 00:08:11,980 --> 00:08:14,660 they're making the music, the soundtrack's in. 133 00:08:21,580 --> 00:08:24,140 # Any time you want me 134 00:08:25,780 --> 00:08:28,220 # Any time at all # 135 00:08:28,380 --> 00:08:30,260 Remember that their manager at the time 136 00:08:30,420 --> 00:08:32,820 would go around Afflecks Palace, the clothes shop, 137 00:08:32,980 --> 00:08:35,900 giving out cassettes of the Roses. People started playing 'em. 138 00:08:36,100 --> 00:08:39,900 You started hearing the Roses in Manchester, coming out of bedsit windows. 139 00:08:40,060 --> 00:08:43,020 It became part of the fabric of the music of the city. 140 00:08:43,220 --> 00:08:47,180 And it kind of merged into this kind of trippiness. Manchester seemed to be glowing. 141 00:08:47,340 --> 00:08:49,980 It was psychedelic. It was like San Francisco in the '60s. 142 00:08:50,100 --> 00:08:52,100 But it was a working-class version. 143 00:08:52,260 --> 00:08:54,740 Normal kids dressing up in sort of hippie-ish clothes. 144 00:08:54,900 --> 00:08:58,020 # Show me your vision, your wild apparition 145 00:08:58,180 --> 00:09:01,860 # And sink to the depths of your soul # 146 00:09:02,140 --> 00:09:05,500 That Stone Roses album was a very uplifting record, you know. It was... 147 00:09:05,660 --> 00:09:09,140 It kind of harked back to the '60s in lots of ways but in another way, 148 00:09:09,300 --> 00:09:12,500 specially with Fool's Gold, you know, it showed that this kind of 149 00:09:12,660 --> 00:09:15,860 thing of sampling loops and integrating and matchmaking. 150 00:09:16,020 --> 00:09:19,220 People who used to like guitar bands started going clubbing 151 00:09:19,340 --> 00:09:21,260 and started enjoying themselves. 152 00:09:21,460 --> 00:09:25,260 That was where the main shift happened. This was like, you know, a celebratory, 153 00:09:25,420 --> 00:09:27,460 all-encompassing thing that happened. 154 00:09:27,780 --> 00:09:31,460 # The pack on my back is aching 155 00:09:32,060 --> 00:09:35,060 # The straps seem to cut me like a knife 156 00:09:35,180 --> 00:09:37,100 (WHOOPING) 157 00:09:47,020 --> 00:09:48,460 # I'm no clown... # 158 00:09:48,620 --> 00:09:51,660 The Stone Roses were a rock band, quite a conventional rock band, 159 00:09:51,820 --> 00:09:55,460 but they also had a kind of dance dimension to what they did. 160 00:09:55,620 --> 00:09:59,460 So the Spike Island concert was not only a traditional rock festival, 161 00:09:59,580 --> 00:10:01,940 but also a rave, a gigantic rave. 162 00:10:02,060 --> 00:10:04,860 And that was a key change, I think. 163 00:10:05,020 --> 00:10:08,780 The Stone Roses concert at Spike Island on March 27th 1990, 164 00:10:08,940 --> 00:10:11,260 sometimes referred to as the Woodstock of the '90s, 165 00:10:11,460 --> 00:10:15,510 was a statement of intent from a generation looking forward to a brighter future. 166 00:10:15,510 --> 00:10:15,590 was a statement of intent We want to be free to do what we want to do. 167 00:10:31,430 --> 00:10:34,670 Soon, London was to pick up the torch lit by the Stone Roses. 168 00:10:34,830 --> 00:10:36,710 In the first months of the new decade, 169 00:10:36,870 --> 00:10:38,910 an incredible number of young pop bands 170 00:10:39,070 --> 00:10:41,230 with a semipsychedelic guitar-based sound 171 00:10:41,390 --> 00:10:44,230 could be heard playing in clubs and pubs around the city. 172 00:10:44,430 --> 00:10:48,110 STREET: At that time, the early '90s, after the initial acid house explosion, 173 00:10:48,270 --> 00:10:50,150 there was a bit of a kind of comedown. 174 00:10:50,310 --> 00:10:52,550 Things just kind of mellowed out for a little while. 175 00:10:52,710 --> 00:10:54,990 Everything kind of went a little bit back to being 176 00:10:55,150 --> 00:10:58,550 kind of like grungy and, you know, introspective again. 177 00:10:58,710 --> 00:11:02,230 Um, and out of that scene, really, came 178 00:11:02,390 --> 00:11:05,470 this next wave of groups, you know, including Blur, 179 00:11:05,670 --> 00:11:09,990 that actually then, you know, took that and then progressed to something else. 180 00:11:10,150 --> 00:11:13,230 For the small, independent labels looking for new bands, 181 00:11:13,350 --> 00:11:15,590 this was a rich hunting ground. 182 00:11:15,750 --> 00:11:18,110 Talent scouts were out and about almost every night, 183 00:11:18,270 --> 00:11:20,230 taking in as many concerts as possible 184 00:11:20,430 --> 00:11:23,950 in the hope of finding THE group who could take the pop charts by storm. 185 00:11:28,750 --> 00:11:32,390 One of those doing the rounds was Andy Ross, head of Food Records, 186 00:11:32,550 --> 00:11:35,310 an independent label who finally set up shop in Camden, 187 00:11:35,470 --> 00:11:37,750 a popular district of North London. 188 00:11:37,950 --> 00:11:41,390 I'd be going to up to five different shows a night, looking for bands, 189 00:11:41,550 --> 00:11:44,590 cos I was, um, very enthusiastic at the time. 190 00:11:44,750 --> 00:11:48,150 And so around that time, uh, I found this little group, 191 00:11:48,270 --> 00:11:50,190 uh, called Seymour. 192 00:11:50,350 --> 00:11:54,670 I had meetings with the manager who brought a cassette to me. 193 00:11:54,790 --> 00:11:56,870 The cassette had four songs on it, 194 00:11:57,030 --> 00:11:59,790 two of which were pretty rubbish, really. 195 00:11:59,950 --> 00:12:03,990 And, uh... But two were really, really interesting, and so, uh, 196 00:12:04,150 --> 00:12:07,390 I went to see them at, uh, Dingwalls in Camden. 197 00:12:07,590 --> 00:12:12,030 And after that, full steam ahead. We signed them almost immediately after that 198 00:12:12,150 --> 00:12:14,630 in February 1990. 199 00:12:14,790 --> 00:12:17,510 The two problems, uh, we had with Seymour, 200 00:12:17,630 --> 00:12:19,910 was firstly, didn't like the name. 201 00:12:20,070 --> 00:12:24,070 There were too many bands around at that time like James and Raymonde 202 00:12:24,230 --> 00:12:27,910 and Seymour just sounded like a hairdresser's name to me. 203 00:12:28,070 --> 00:12:32,510 I really didn't like it and so we had to address that situation. 204 00:12:32,670 --> 00:12:34,630 Everyone chucked their ideas in a hat 205 00:12:34,750 --> 00:12:36,790 and we'll see what comes out best. 206 00:12:36,910 --> 00:12:39,750 Blur won. So they became Blur. 207 00:12:39,910 --> 00:12:42,470 In those days, unless you were uh, Depeche Mode, 208 00:12:42,630 --> 00:12:46,950 it was very unusual for indie bands to make any impact on the UK charts. 209 00:12:47,110 --> 00:12:49,590 So, uh, we bided with our time and the first single, 210 00:12:49,710 --> 00:12:52,030 She's So High, reached 48. 211 00:12:52,190 --> 00:12:54,950 It was big success for us, we thought at the time. 212 00:12:55,110 --> 00:12:58,110 That was a good start, and then we thought, 'Where do we go next?' 213 00:12:58,270 --> 00:13:02,110 And we had some recordings by Stephen Street. 214 00:13:02,270 --> 00:13:05,070 Um, one of which was a song called There's No Other Way. 215 00:13:05,270 --> 00:13:08,670 So I went uptown to meet them at a pub in the West End and we got on great 216 00:13:08,830 --> 00:13:11,510 and we booked a studio for the following week 217 00:13:11,670 --> 00:13:15,030 and went in and recorded two songs as a kind of test session. 218 00:13:15,190 --> 00:13:18,190 And one of those songs was, uh, There's No Other Way. 219 00:13:18,350 --> 00:13:21,390 At that time, there was still an overhang of the kind of dancing, 220 00:13:21,590 --> 00:13:26,030 kind of overhanging into the indie clubs and things that these kids would kind of go to. 221 00:13:26,190 --> 00:13:30,030 Um... And, um... So I definitely wanted to make sure 222 00:13:30,230 --> 00:13:33,270 that There's No Other Way, if it could, could work on the dance floor. 223 00:13:33,430 --> 00:13:35,350 But let's not overemphasise that too much. 224 00:13:35,510 --> 00:13:38,510 For me the killer thing is the guitar riff that kick-starts it. 225 00:13:38,630 --> 00:13:40,550 (GUITAR RIFF) 226 00:13:45,590 --> 00:13:48,710 You know, it still has that uplifting, you know, power. 227 00:13:48,870 --> 00:13:53,230 # You're taking the fun out of everything 228 00:13:53,390 --> 00:13:56,750 # You're making me run when I don't wanna think 229 00:13:56,910 --> 00:14:01,910 # You're taking the fun out of everything 230 00:14:02,030 --> 00:14:05,870 # I don't wanna think at all 231 00:14:06,030 --> 00:14:10,270 # There's no other way, there's no other way 232 00:14:10,430 --> 00:14:14,630 # All that you can do is watch them play 233 00:14:14,790 --> 00:14:18,990 # There's no other way there's no other way 234 00:14:19,150 --> 00:14:22,790 # All that you can do is watch them play # 235 00:14:22,950 --> 00:14:26,550 Had a meeting with the band. Damon's very vocal, and he still is. 236 00:14:26,710 --> 00:14:29,950 But at the time, he was sort of saying, 237 00:14:30,150 --> 00:14:34,390 "There's no other way." And I said, "Look, that's a hit." He was like, "No, that's a B-side." 238 00:14:34,550 --> 00:14:37,430 I was like, "You're wrong, it's a hit." And... 239 00:14:37,590 --> 00:14:41,710 because we were the record label, uh, eventually, we could just 240 00:14:41,870 --> 00:14:44,430 put our foot down and say, "It's a single." 241 00:14:44,590 --> 00:14:47,510 And so they were a bit grumpy about that. 242 00:14:47,670 --> 00:14:50,230 Um, less grumpy when it was in the top ten. 243 00:14:51,910 --> 00:14:55,310 Blur were not, however, to savour the taste of success for very long. 244 00:14:55,510 --> 00:14:59,430 An unexpected wind blowing in from Seattle on the West coast of the United States 245 00:14:59,590 --> 00:15:02,750 gate-crashed their party. Grunge music had arrived. 246 00:15:02,910 --> 00:15:06,430 In short, Nirvana. Nirvana. Everywhere Nirvana. 247 00:15:06,630 --> 00:15:11,510 America had found a voice, and a face capable of expressing its anxiety and self loathing. 248 00:15:11,670 --> 00:15:13,910 An angelic face amongst the shopping malls. 249 00:15:14,070 --> 00:15:16,790 When Nirvana arrived - and with Kurt Cobain, as well, 250 00:15:16,950 --> 00:15:18,990 he had this kind of iconic thing about him, 251 00:15:19,150 --> 00:15:23,110 this look and this kind of deep down desire and...and integrity - 252 00:15:23,230 --> 00:15:25,270 it did kind of make a lot of bands 253 00:15:25,470 --> 00:15:28,670 in this country kind of go, "Wait a minute, what are we dealing with here?" 254 00:15:28,830 --> 00:15:32,270 # With the lights out, it's less dangerous 255 00:15:32,390 --> 00:15:36,510 # Here we are now, entertain us 256 00:15:36,630 --> 00:15:39,790 # I feel stupid and contagious 257 00:15:39,910 --> 00:15:42,510 # Here we are now, entertain us # 258 00:15:42,670 --> 00:15:46,630 I think this really affected Blur most probably more than anyone else 259 00:15:46,790 --> 00:15:49,430 because they were touring the States at the time 260 00:15:49,550 --> 00:15:51,910 on the back of their first album. 261 00:15:52,070 --> 00:15:54,590 And there was this shift, definitely in America anyway, 262 00:15:54,750 --> 00:15:57,350 where really, all of a sudden, you know, Nirvana was it, 263 00:15:57,510 --> 00:16:00,190 and all that grunge thing, the Seattle kind of a sound. 264 00:16:00,350 --> 00:16:03,470 It kind of put Blur a little bit on the back burner. 265 00:16:04,670 --> 00:16:06,750 The came back from that tour 266 00:16:06,910 --> 00:16:10,310 where people were saying, "Hey, are you guys from Manchester?" 267 00:16:10,510 --> 00:16:14,030 And, you know, and kind of like, they didn't really know what Blur were about. 268 00:16:14,150 --> 00:16:16,070 And I think they felt isolated. 269 00:16:16,270 --> 00:16:19,910 They kind of spent a long time over there trying to crack America, as it were, 270 00:16:20,070 --> 00:16:23,110 and came back pretty much with their tail between their legs. 271 00:16:23,270 --> 00:16:25,270 It all ground to a halt around that period, 272 00:16:25,430 --> 00:16:28,070 and we went away and thought, "What do we do next?" 273 00:16:28,230 --> 00:16:31,190 And they went in to the wilderness for a little while. 274 00:16:31,350 --> 00:16:34,550 At the time, Blur were very much not flavour of the month. 275 00:16:34,750 --> 00:16:39,310 I think you'd find that Suede were much more popular at that particular time than Blur, 276 00:16:39,430 --> 00:16:42,030 and they were kind of big rivals. 277 00:16:45,030 --> 00:16:48,270 In 1993, Suede were the most popular band in Britain. 278 00:16:48,470 --> 00:16:52,190 Their fans were loyal diehards who identified with the lyrics of their songs. 279 00:16:52,350 --> 00:16:54,790 And particularly with the lead singer, Brett Anderson, 280 00:16:54,950 --> 00:16:57,670 whose sexual ambiguity and enigmatic character 281 00:16:57,830 --> 00:17:00,950 fascinated more than one or two teenagers in search of an identity. 282 00:17:01,110 --> 00:17:04,710 Suede, inadvertently, became part of that scene because of the press. 283 00:17:04,870 --> 00:17:07,830 But Brett really kept to himself. He really didn't, you know, 284 00:17:07,990 --> 00:17:10,550 become part of anything. He was quite enigmatic 285 00:17:10,710 --> 00:17:12,910 and he did what he did with his own friends. 286 00:17:13,070 --> 00:17:17,030 He didn't go to all the parties at all or anything like that. 287 00:17:17,190 --> 00:17:19,910 They would distance themselves, in that respect. 288 00:17:20,070 --> 00:17:22,950 They were a bit, you know, a bit cool. 289 00:17:23,070 --> 00:17:25,710 # Oh, it turns you o-o-on 290 00:17:25,990 --> 00:17:27,950 # O-o-on 291 00:17:28,630 --> 00:17:30,350 # And now he has gone # 292 00:17:30,510 --> 00:17:33,790 Damon Albarn was not indifferent to the size of Suede's following. 293 00:17:33,910 --> 00:17:35,830 Having himself tasted success, 294 00:17:35,990 --> 00:17:39,110 he had his own ideas of who should be the public's favourite. 295 00:17:39,230 --> 00:17:41,150 I know that Damon used to be... 296 00:17:41,310 --> 00:17:44,150 Liked to sort of know how well Suede were doing. 297 00:17:44,310 --> 00:17:47,070 It wasn't like a sort of a, "Oh, my God, we must beat them" 298 00:17:47,230 --> 00:17:50,510 but he definitely had one eye on what was happening with them 299 00:17:50,670 --> 00:17:53,190 and what press they were getting and things like that. 300 00:17:53,390 --> 00:17:56,950 At that time, Damon was writing a lot of songs that were character-based songs 301 00:17:57,110 --> 00:17:59,190 like Colin Zeal and...and things like that, 302 00:17:59,350 --> 00:18:01,430 where he's talking about a kind of character, 303 00:18:01,590 --> 00:18:04,590 and I think that kind of tapped into that kind of linage of writing, 304 00:18:04,750 --> 00:18:06,630 like, from Ray Davies or Syd Barrett, 305 00:18:06,790 --> 00:18:09,510 where you get these interesting little English characters, 306 00:18:09,670 --> 00:18:12,190 you know, these kind of strange people that, you know, 307 00:18:12,350 --> 00:18:16,150 kind of inspire a...a song to be written around that person. 308 00:18:16,310 --> 00:18:18,670 I think, you know, the best people can do that. 309 00:18:18,870 --> 00:18:23,630 And very different to kind of, you know, the things that rock and grunge bands were writing about. 310 00:18:23,750 --> 00:18:25,230 # End of a century 311 00:18:25,350 --> 00:18:28,110 # Oh, it's nothing special 312 00:18:28,270 --> 00:18:31,030 # We all say, "Don't want to be alone" 313 00:18:31,190 --> 00:18:34,110 # We wear the same clothes cos we feel the same 314 00:18:34,270 --> 00:18:38,150 # We kiss with dry lips when we say good night 315 00:18:38,270 --> 00:18:39,870 # End of a century 316 00:18:39,990 --> 00:18:42,790 # Oh, it's nothing special 317 00:18:42,910 --> 00:18:45,830 # Oh, end of a century 318 00:18:45,950 --> 00:18:51,310 # Oh, it's nothing special # 319 00:18:51,950 --> 00:18:56,870 The period around the early '90s - '92, '93, '94, I think - 320 00:18:57,030 --> 00:19:01,670 it was kind of a false dawn for British indie music. 321 00:19:01,790 --> 00:19:03,710 Uh, Suede were extremely popular. 322 00:19:03,870 --> 00:19:07,550 Blur were fairly popular. And, I mean, within our small world, 323 00:19:07,670 --> 00:19:09,710 we were both big names, you know. 324 00:19:09,870 --> 00:19:11,910 Then suddenly this band from Manchester 325 00:19:12,070 --> 00:19:14,670 suddenly appeared on the scene - Oasis. 326 00:19:24,710 --> 00:19:28,750 The group Oasis had formed in Manchester in the early '90s around two brothers, 327 00:19:28,950 --> 00:19:33,070 Liam Gallagher, the singer, and his elder brother, Noel, who wrote the songs. 328 00:19:35,350 --> 00:19:39,590 # I don't know what it is that makes me feel alive 329 00:19:39,750 --> 00:19:43,590 # I don't know how to wake the things that sleep inside 330 00:19:43,750 --> 00:19:49,470 # I only wish to see the light that shines behind your eyes # 331 00:19:50,190 --> 00:19:53,150 Oasis just felt like juggernaut coming through the house. 332 00:19:53,310 --> 00:19:56,110 Oasis felt like when the Sex Pistols arrived. 333 00:19:56,230 --> 00:20:00,270 It felt like nobody saw it coming. 334 00:20:00,430 --> 00:20:02,750 Nobody knew anything about this band. 335 00:20:02,910 --> 00:20:06,750 And suddenly Creation were saying, "We've got the band." 336 00:20:10,950 --> 00:20:14,910 # Because we need each other 337 00:20:15,030 --> 00:20:19,030 # We believe in one another 338 00:20:19,150 --> 00:20:23,110 # I know we're going to uncover... # 339 00:20:23,270 --> 00:20:26,190 Creation Records was an independent label based in London 340 00:20:26,310 --> 00:20:28,590 and founded by a certain Alan McGee. 341 00:20:29,830 --> 00:20:31,830 Having had some success in the '80s 342 00:20:31,990 --> 00:20:35,030 with bands such as My Bloody Valentine and the Jesus & Mary Chain, 343 00:20:35,190 --> 00:20:38,110 he was in the early '90s still looking for the band 344 00:20:38,270 --> 00:20:41,270 who would project his label to a higher level of success. 345 00:20:41,430 --> 00:20:44,470 Fate was to take a hand on the 31st May 1993, 346 00:20:44,630 --> 00:20:47,030 when he found himself at a concert in Glasgow. 347 00:20:47,190 --> 00:20:49,670 The members of the band Oasis were in the hall, 348 00:20:49,830 --> 00:20:52,610 but were not scheduled to play during the evening. 349 00:20:52,610 --> 00:20:58,210 We want to be free to do what we want to do. 350 00:20:58,370 --> 00:21:03,770 I showed up, and there was a weird licensing law change in Glasgow 351 00:21:03,930 --> 00:21:06,170 cos it had been made City of Culture. 352 00:21:06,330 --> 00:21:10,330 And, uh, they had decided to start the band at half ten. 353 00:21:10,490 --> 00:21:12,890 So I was there at half eight. So I... 354 00:21:13,050 --> 00:21:16,250 saw this kind of of weird atmosphere developing. 355 00:21:16,410 --> 00:21:18,850 And it was because these kids from Manchester, 356 00:21:19,010 --> 00:21:21,450 who were called Oasis, wanted to get on the bill. 357 00:21:21,610 --> 00:21:26,890 And, uh, they didn't even want to let them play. 358 00:21:27,090 --> 00:21:30,890 There were only two bouncers in the place and there was, like, 12 moody Mancs. 359 00:21:31,050 --> 00:21:34,250 So, I think it was decided, let the moody Mancs have the four songs. 360 00:21:34,410 --> 00:21:38,290 Nobody will care anyway. I think that was the vibe for the club. 361 00:21:38,450 --> 00:21:40,930 And then I went upstairs just to check them out. 362 00:21:41,090 --> 00:21:44,450 I don't know why. I just thought, "Oh, let's see what they're like." 363 00:21:44,610 --> 00:21:48,330 And then, you know, they played and it was amazing. 364 00:21:48,450 --> 00:21:51,530 # I need to be myself 365 00:21:53,050 --> 00:21:56,210 # I can't be no-one else 366 00:21:57,690 --> 00:22:00,770 # I'm feeling supersonic 367 00:22:00,890 --> 00:22:03,050 # Give me gin and tonic 368 00:22:03,170 --> 00:22:05,090 # You can have it all, but... # 369 00:22:05,250 --> 00:22:07,690 I said, you know, "Who's the manager?" 370 00:22:07,850 --> 00:22:11,090 And he went, "There is no manager but I'll go and get you the guy." 371 00:22:11,250 --> 00:22:13,850 Then he brought the guy out and it was Noel Gallagher. 372 00:22:14,010 --> 00:22:16,570 I went, "Do you want a record deal?" He went, "Who with?" 373 00:22:16,730 --> 00:22:18,890 And I went, "Creation." And he went, "Yeah." 374 00:22:19,010 --> 00:22:21,290 # In my yellow submarine 375 00:22:21,410 --> 00:22:24,170 # You need to find out 376 00:22:24,330 --> 00:22:28,530 # Cos no-one's gonna tell you what I'm on about # 377 00:22:29,210 --> 00:22:32,730 The house where the Gallagher brothers had grown up is situated in Burnage, 378 00:22:32,850 --> 00:22:35,650 a working-class suburb of Manchester. 379 00:22:35,850 --> 00:22:39,450 It was here that they'd drawn up their plans to make it big through music. 380 00:22:42,450 --> 00:22:46,450 Oasis are one of the examples of, you know, purely working-class acts. 381 00:22:46,610 --> 00:22:50,530 They're utterly admirable, uh, with an immense commercial drive, 382 00:22:50,690 --> 00:22:53,610 because they just wanted to get out of, you know, Burnage. 383 00:22:53,770 --> 00:22:57,970 And, um, you know, working-class musicians have an enormous, uh, 384 00:22:58,090 --> 00:22:59,850 drive to improve their lives. 385 00:23:04,050 --> 00:23:06,490 Despite wanting to get out of Burnage at all costs, 386 00:23:06,650 --> 00:23:09,690 the Gallagher brothers also used it as a source of inspiration. 387 00:23:09,850 --> 00:23:12,290 We're outside Sifters, which is in Burnage. 388 00:23:12,410 --> 00:23:14,930 Oasis made this record shop famous, 389 00:23:15,090 --> 00:23:18,130 um, when they used it in the promotional video 390 00:23:18,290 --> 00:23:20,610 for their second single, Shakermaker. 391 00:23:20,770 --> 00:23:24,330 How that came about was that they were on the way to the studio, 392 00:23:24,490 --> 00:23:27,170 Johnny Marr's studio in Altrincham, to record it. 393 00:23:27,330 --> 00:23:29,530 On the way to the studio, Liam was panicking 394 00:23:29,690 --> 00:23:31,970 because they had to take a verse out of the track 395 00:23:32,130 --> 00:23:35,730 and he kept saying, "When you gonna write the new lyrics?" to Noel. 396 00:23:35,930 --> 00:23:39,490 And as the taxi drove down the road here, it pulled up outside the lights 397 00:23:39,650 --> 00:23:41,650 and Noel got his pen and paper out and wrote, 398 00:23:41,850 --> 00:23:45,770 'Mr Sifter sold me the songs when I was just 16. Now he stops at traffic lights 399 00:23:45,930 --> 00:23:48,610 but only when they're green.' He said, "Learn that." 400 00:23:48,730 --> 00:23:53,450 # Mr Sifter sold me songs 401 00:23:53,570 --> 00:23:56,810 # When I was just 16 402 00:23:58,890 --> 00:24:03,170 # Now he stops at traffic lights 403 00:24:03,290 --> 00:24:06,850 # But only when they're green 404 00:24:08,490 --> 00:24:12,530 # Ah-h-h-h 405 00:24:12,650 --> 00:24:15,730 # Shake along with me # 406 00:24:15,890 --> 00:24:18,490 Noel Gallagher is really amazing at writing songs. 407 00:24:18,650 --> 00:24:20,970 He had that knack of getting through to normal people 408 00:24:21,130 --> 00:24:23,490 because he didn't seem he was from the elite. 409 00:24:23,690 --> 00:24:27,450 He seemed like a normal guy with a guitar who could write brilliant songs 410 00:24:27,610 --> 00:24:30,650 that everyone could relate to. They looked like the everyman. 411 00:24:30,810 --> 00:24:35,370 And that worked, you know, his community, his camaraderie. 412 00:24:35,530 --> 00:24:37,970 Noel can write songs that touch people's hearts. 413 00:24:38,130 --> 00:24:41,490 He's the man, he writes the gear, he's got it sewn up. 414 00:24:41,650 --> 00:24:45,130 He's wrote songs that... He's got hundreds and hundreds of songs 415 00:24:45,290 --> 00:24:47,530 that are just mega. And they go different... 416 00:24:47,690 --> 00:24:50,370 You know, totally different from what we're doing now. 417 00:24:50,570 --> 00:24:54,130 Oasis in a way are the Pistols and the Beatles just stuck together, aren't they? 418 00:24:54,290 --> 00:24:57,410 But also like a museum of British pop culture, I think. 419 00:24:57,570 --> 00:24:59,930 There's so many British band influences in there. 420 00:25:00,090 --> 00:25:02,370 You could hear Slade and T Rex and Bowie. 421 00:25:02,530 --> 00:25:06,210 # We can work it out, we can work it out # 422 00:25:06,370 --> 00:25:09,850 LIAM: I'd say the Beatles were at the top. If there is a top. 423 00:25:10,690 --> 00:25:14,330 I'd say they were at the top. A lot of other bands were sort of like... 424 00:25:14,810 --> 00:25:18,450 Just...not quite there, you know what I mean? I wanted to be like... 425 00:25:18,610 --> 00:25:21,330 You know what I mean? Or like wherever. Depends. 426 00:25:22,170 --> 00:25:24,690 Just like, what day is it today? Tuesday, yeah? 427 00:25:24,890 --> 00:25:28,770 You know what I mean? People coming here tonight on a Tuesday. It's raining. 428 00:25:28,930 --> 00:25:31,250 People are coming down here going, "Yeah, man. 429 00:25:31,410 --> 00:25:33,810 This is gonna be a mega night." Giving it some. 430 00:25:33,930 --> 00:25:35,610 It happened to me with the Roses. 431 00:25:35,770 --> 00:25:37,770 I went there and I thought, "Yeah, man. 432 00:25:37,930 --> 00:25:40,210 Top, man. I'm really glad to be a part of it." 433 00:25:40,330 --> 00:25:44,130 # I would like to leave this city 434 00:25:44,290 --> 00:25:48,850 # This old town don't smell too pretty and 435 00:25:48,970 --> 00:25:52,490 # I can feel the warning signs 436 00:25:52,610 --> 00:25:54,050 # Running around... # 437 00:25:54,170 --> 00:25:56,090 Well, they're like, unique, really. 438 00:25:56,250 --> 00:26:00,290 Compared to other things around, they're not like any other band. 439 00:26:00,450 --> 00:26:03,450 A brilliant band. England's best band at the moment, I'd say. 440 00:26:03,610 --> 00:26:05,970 Well, they're really new and they're really fresh, 441 00:26:06,130 --> 00:26:09,090 and they don't really care what the critics say or anything. 442 00:26:09,210 --> 00:26:11,130 They seem really confident. 443 00:26:12,370 --> 00:26:14,450 Oasis' success with the public at large 444 00:26:14,610 --> 00:26:17,530 was underlined by their first album Definitely Maybe. 445 00:26:17,690 --> 00:26:22,850 Released in 1994, it sold 150,000 copies in its first week, 446 00:26:23,050 --> 00:26:26,930 thus becoming the fastest-selling debut album in British musical history, 447 00:26:27,090 --> 00:26:30,090 and going straight into the charts at the number one spot. 448 00:26:30,250 --> 00:26:33,890 # So what do you say? You can't give me... # 449 00:26:34,050 --> 00:26:37,330 NOEL: There's been people there since 11 in the morning. 450 00:26:37,490 --> 00:26:41,050 We wanted to do that for them because without them we're nothing. 451 00:26:41,210 --> 00:26:44,410 And, you know... It's like, if I didn't wanna be in this band 452 00:26:44,530 --> 00:26:46,450 or if I didn't wanna sign autographs 453 00:26:46,610 --> 00:26:49,810 or if I didn't want to, you know, live my life in a fishbowl, 454 00:26:49,970 --> 00:26:52,930 I'd just get up from here and take my case out of the van. 455 00:26:53,130 --> 00:26:56,930 I'd go to the airport, go to Brazil. Nobody could stop me because I've got the money. 456 00:26:57,090 --> 00:26:58,890 But I don't because I want to be here. 457 00:26:59,050 --> 00:27:03,410 We're playing the game, and we mean it, and we're honest. 458 00:27:03,570 --> 00:27:07,250 And we've got the best songs. So that's why we're in everyone's face. 459 00:27:07,690 --> 00:27:12,690 # Maybe I don't really wanna know 460 00:27:12,850 --> 00:27:17,690 # How your garden grows cos I just want to fly 461 00:27:17,810 --> 00:27:22,530 # Lately, did you ever feel the pain 462 00:27:22,650 --> 00:27:24,370 # In the morning rain? # 463 00:27:24,530 --> 00:27:28,690 The success of Oasis was about a connection with the audience... 464 00:27:30,210 --> 00:27:35,450 ..and the ability to really excite and inspire an audience and tap into a generation. 465 00:27:35,570 --> 00:27:39,810 # We're gonna live forever 466 00:27:39,930 --> 00:27:44,850 # We're gonna live forever 467 00:27:44,970 --> 00:27:55,110 # We're gonna live forever # 468 00:27:56,710 --> 00:28:00,790 Oasis were not the only group to release a successful album in 1994. 469 00:28:00,950 --> 00:28:04,190 Blur made a more-than-staggering comeback album with Parklife, 470 00:28:04,350 --> 00:28:07,430 a record which for many is the epitome of the term Britpop. 471 00:28:07,590 --> 00:28:09,710 The songs on the album are a sort of homage 472 00:28:09,870 --> 00:28:12,710 to the daily life and values of working-class London. 473 00:28:12,870 --> 00:28:15,910 # Confidence is a preference for the habitual voyeur 474 00:28:16,030 --> 00:28:17,950 # Of what is known as... 475 00:28:18,670 --> 00:28:19,950 # Parklife # 476 00:28:20,110 --> 00:28:23,430 ANDY: After Modern Life Is Rubbish, Blur were at a bit of a low ebb. 477 00:28:23,590 --> 00:28:27,430 But the tide was turning. We didn't really appreciate that at the time. 478 00:28:27,590 --> 00:28:30,670 But within a year, we had the release of Parklife. 479 00:28:30,830 --> 00:28:35,230 So we got a kind of a slingshot reaction from the press, going from, 480 00:28:35,390 --> 00:28:38,710 "We missed them then, but we're gonna go for it this time." 481 00:28:38,870 --> 00:28:43,590 And so, suddenly the press were way behind them, you know, all the way. 482 00:28:43,750 --> 00:28:46,990 And so when Parklife came out, it was like a done deal. 483 00:28:47,110 --> 00:28:49,830 # All the people 484 00:28:49,950 --> 00:28:53,230 # So many people 485 00:28:53,350 --> 00:28:56,990 # And they all go hand in hand 486 00:28:57,150 --> 00:29:01,510 # Hand in hand through their parklife # 487 00:29:03,950 --> 00:29:06,790 I'm very proud of it. It's a very varied album. 488 00:29:06,950 --> 00:29:10,510 You know, I mean, one of the things I always remember vividly is, 489 00:29:10,670 --> 00:29:13,630 you know, working on Girls and Boys, um... 490 00:29:13,790 --> 00:29:16,670 Damon kind of bought in a very basic demo that he'd made of it, 491 00:29:16,830 --> 00:29:19,590 pretty much a home demo, and I remember saying to him, 492 00:29:19,790 --> 00:29:24,150 "Look, this is great, and we should do it as a 120 bpm disco record because that's really..." 493 00:29:24,310 --> 00:29:27,870 Cos he'd done it with a very simple kind of basic drumbeat at home. 494 00:29:27,990 --> 00:29:29,790 And I said, "That's its power." 495 00:29:31,230 --> 00:29:34,070 # Girls who are boys, who like boys to be girls 496 00:29:34,230 --> 00:29:38,110 # Who do boys like they're girls, who do girls like they're boys 497 00:29:38,270 --> 00:29:43,950 # Always should be someone you really love 498 00:29:46,270 --> 00:29:48,990 # Oh, oh, oh, oh-oh-oh 499 00:29:50,150 --> 00:29:52,910 # Oh, oh, oh, oh-oh # 500 00:29:53,070 --> 00:29:58,470 That really set the ball rolling, and the album went in at number one. 501 00:29:58,630 --> 00:30:02,470 And that started... That was the genesis of Britpop. 502 00:30:02,630 --> 00:30:07,910 Guitar bands playing slightly '60s, slightly trippy-tinge music. 503 00:30:08,070 --> 00:30:11,190 A lot of them in the template of the Stone Roses. You'd buy... 504 00:30:11,350 --> 00:30:13,990 It took them five years to make their next album. 505 00:30:14,190 --> 00:30:19,070 In that gap, everyone in the country had learnt how to be The Stone Roses apart from The Stone Roses, 506 00:30:19,230 --> 00:30:22,150 who'd sort of forgotten. (CHUCKLES) Which is quite weird, innit? 507 00:30:22,310 --> 00:30:25,630 So, um, Britpop was a continuation of Manchester. 508 00:30:25,790 --> 00:30:28,510 But, geographically, it was more nationwide. 509 00:30:28,670 --> 00:30:32,270 It was like the doors were suddenly opened, "Come in, you're welcome." 510 00:30:32,470 --> 00:30:35,990 All these bands are out there playing guitar and doing their own national tours 511 00:30:36,150 --> 00:30:38,470 and not really ever getting inside the top 30, 512 00:30:38,590 --> 00:30:40,910 were suddenly welcome to the party. 513 00:30:41,070 --> 00:30:44,150 # Because she stayed out late from Monday 514 00:30:44,270 --> 00:30:46,910 # Till Saturday turned into Sunday 515 00:30:47,030 --> 00:30:49,990 # And now we're back here on Monday 516 00:30:50,110 --> 00:30:52,910 # We're gonna do it all over again 517 00:30:53,070 --> 00:30:57,750 # And we go, "Aah ah ah, aah ah ah Aah ah ah, aah ah ah" # 518 00:30:58,390 --> 00:31:02,790 And suddenly you get this situation where the acts that used to have platinum records 519 00:31:02,910 --> 00:31:04,830 like the Eurythmics or Tina Turner, 520 00:31:04,990 --> 00:31:07,790 suddenly...it wasn't just their domain, 521 00:31:07,990 --> 00:31:12,030 it was the domain of these bands, you know, like Blur and Pulp and Oasis. 522 00:31:12,190 --> 00:31:15,510 And it was just a wonderful thing because all of a sudden, 523 00:31:15,710 --> 00:31:19,590 the music we were making... We weren't changing our music to fit into the market, 524 00:31:19,750 --> 00:31:23,190 the market just adjusted to us and gave it the name Britpop. 525 00:31:23,310 --> 00:31:26,510 # I know that her mind is made up 526 00:31:26,630 --> 00:31:29,110 # To get rocked # 527 00:31:30,830 --> 00:31:33,710 # We are young, we run green 528 00:31:34,110 --> 00:31:36,670 # Keep our teeth nice and clean 529 00:31:36,830 --> 00:31:41,110 # See our friends, see the sights and feel all right # 530 00:31:41,950 --> 00:31:45,230 # Shopping for kicks, got the weekend to get through 531 00:31:45,390 --> 00:31:48,870 # She's keeping the rain off her Saturday hairdo 532 00:31:49,030 --> 00:31:51,710 # She stops for a coffee, she smiles at the waiter # 533 00:31:51,870 --> 00:31:55,710 It became a time more of celebration, gradually, by osmosis. 534 00:31:55,870 --> 00:32:01,550 Just the whole climate in the UK was changing, you know. 535 00:32:01,670 --> 00:32:04,230 Imperceptibly, really, but it was. 536 00:32:05,470 --> 00:32:08,630 The changes taking place in British society continued with the arrival 537 00:32:08,790 --> 00:32:11,190 on the scene of a young Labour MP, Tony Blair, 538 00:32:11,350 --> 00:32:15,630 who on 21st July 1994 became leader of New Labour. 539 00:32:16,950 --> 00:32:21,190 BROWN: There was this MP arrived. Tony Blair, young MP. 540 00:32:21,390 --> 00:32:25,830 And suddenly he understood that if he headed a football with Kevin Keegan, 541 00:32:26,030 --> 00:32:29,670 who would go on to be the England manager, who was then manager of Newcastle, 542 00:32:29,830 --> 00:32:31,830 he would look like a man of the people. 543 00:32:31,990 --> 00:32:35,910 Tony Blair didn't really deliver policy, he just marketed himself. 544 00:32:36,070 --> 00:32:40,190 Britpop was regarded as sexy and quintessentially English 545 00:32:40,350 --> 00:32:43,830 and cool, and Tony Blair affiliated himself, 546 00:32:44,030 --> 00:32:47,790 pretty much nailed his colours to the mast there, or wanted to appropriate 547 00:32:47,950 --> 00:32:51,710 the scene and associate it with New Labour. 548 00:32:51,830 --> 00:32:54,270 And certainly 549 00:32:54,430 --> 00:32:57,390 I remember being in the Palace of Westminster 550 00:32:57,550 --> 00:33:01,670 and I had a minute-long conversation with Tony Blair. 551 00:33:01,830 --> 00:33:04,590 Shook his hand and talking rubbish about, 552 00:33:04,790 --> 00:33:09,670 yes, it's really important and it's a great thing to be, blah, blah, blah... 553 00:33:09,830 --> 00:33:11,790 So, yeah, I had an audience with Tony Blair. 554 00:33:11,950 --> 00:33:14,830 I've got the letter of invitation back at home. 555 00:33:14,950 --> 00:33:17,830 But he was very interested 556 00:33:17,990 --> 00:33:20,750 in appropriating the scene to the cause. 557 00:33:20,870 --> 00:33:23,310 In late 1994, Tony Blair 558 00:33:23,470 --> 00:33:25,550 was one of the special guests at the Q Awards, 559 00:33:25,710 --> 00:33:28,950 the music awards organised by Mark Ellen, founder of Q magazine. 560 00:33:29,150 --> 00:33:32,470 You know, rock'n'roll plays such a big part in the lives of all of us 561 00:33:32,590 --> 00:33:34,550 or has done certainly with me. 562 00:33:34,750 --> 00:33:39,470 I mean, I remember those, you know, those opening bars of From Me To You. 563 00:33:39,670 --> 00:33:42,630 That time when you realised that you could shock your parents rigid 564 00:33:42,790 --> 00:33:44,750 by saying that Mick Jagger was a role model 565 00:33:44,910 --> 00:33:47,150 when your mother was telling you about that nice man 566 00:33:47,310 --> 00:33:49,910 playing the double bass with the glasses in The New Seekers. 567 00:33:50,110 --> 00:33:54,230 Tony Blair was at the Q Awards because I had invited him. I was at college with him. 568 00:33:54,390 --> 00:33:57,790 We were in a rock'n'roll band that played five or six concerts, 569 00:33:57,950 --> 00:34:01,150 but subsequently became enormously well-known - 570 00:34:01,310 --> 00:34:05,390 we weren't at the time - because Tony had been the singer and, erm... 571 00:34:05,550 --> 00:34:08,630 Tony had... Tony really wanted to come. 572 00:34:08,750 --> 00:34:12,790 And it was a complicated situation 573 00:34:12,950 --> 00:34:16,750 because for a leader of the opposition 574 00:34:16,910 --> 00:34:19,950 about to be the Prime Minister to attend an event like that, 575 00:34:20,110 --> 00:34:23,630 obviously, the political lives are scrutinized 576 00:34:23,790 --> 00:34:26,870 to the most extraordinary degree and it was big decision 577 00:34:27,030 --> 00:34:30,030 to decide whether or not he could come to an event like that 578 00:34:30,190 --> 00:34:32,430 and should be associated with rock'n'roll. 579 00:34:32,590 --> 00:34:34,590 I got fed up with all the sex and the sleaze 580 00:34:34,710 --> 00:34:36,630 and the backhanders of rock'n'roll. 581 00:34:36,750 --> 00:34:38,670 (LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE) 582 00:34:42,910 --> 00:34:47,030 As you can see, I graduated into politics and, erm, 583 00:34:47,190 --> 00:34:50,950 I just wanted to say two things to you tonight - this afternoon - 584 00:34:51,070 --> 00:34:53,870 first of all that rock'n'roll 585 00:34:54,030 --> 00:34:56,630 is not just an important part of our culture, 586 00:34:56,790 --> 00:34:59,470 it's an important part of our way of life. 587 00:34:59,630 --> 00:35:03,190 It's an important industry. It's part of our lives. 588 00:35:03,350 --> 00:35:06,590 There was a brilliant moment where he was leaving 589 00:35:06,750 --> 00:35:09,630 and I was taking him up the stairs and Noel Gallagher ran down 590 00:35:09,830 --> 00:35:13,830 and stopped in front of him and said, "Do it for us, man. You've gotta win it!" 591 00:35:13,950 --> 00:35:15,990 Which was an extraordinary thing 592 00:35:16,150 --> 00:35:18,270 and an extraordinary thing for Tony, too, 593 00:35:18,430 --> 00:35:21,550 because Tony realised there were a lot of people of that generation, 594 00:35:21,710 --> 00:35:24,590 represented by people like Noel, who really wanted Labour to get in. 595 00:35:24,750 --> 00:35:27,270 I think New Labour were happy to sleep around 596 00:35:27,390 --> 00:35:29,310 with the musicians of the time. 597 00:35:29,470 --> 00:35:32,430 I don't think they had a particular preference for North or South. 598 00:35:32,590 --> 00:35:37,310 I think Oasis or Blur, to them, probably equally usable. 599 00:35:37,910 --> 00:35:42,630 And so they whored themselves around a little bit around the musicians 600 00:35:42,790 --> 00:35:46,790 to make them cool by association certainly. 601 00:35:47,630 --> 00:35:49,590 But at the end of 1994, 602 00:35:49,790 --> 00:35:53,670 the political career of Tony Blair was the last thing on the minds of Blur and Oasis, 603 00:35:53,830 --> 00:35:56,910 who found themselves vying for the role of Britain's biggest band. 604 00:35:57,630 --> 00:35:59,590 The best LP of 1994... 605 00:36:00,390 --> 00:36:02,790 And again, I'm sure our readers have got this right. 606 00:36:02,950 --> 00:36:04,830 ..is Parklife by Blur. (CHEERING) 607 00:36:07,710 --> 00:36:09,590 Thank you ever so much. 608 00:36:09,750 --> 00:36:12,870 It's nice to be respectable. Everyone wants to be respectable. 609 00:36:13,030 --> 00:36:16,230 I suppose that's what it gives us - a certain air of respectability. 610 00:36:16,350 --> 00:36:21,030 # Tonight, I'm a rock'n'roll star # 611 00:36:21,190 --> 00:36:23,790 The Best New Group of 1994 are Oasis. 612 00:36:23,910 --> 00:36:25,830 # OASIS: Live Forever 613 00:36:32,550 --> 00:36:36,510 To the readers, I'd just like to applaud your wisdom. Thank you. 614 00:36:36,510 --> 00:36:36,630 To the readers, I'd just like to applaud your wisdom. Thank you. We want to be free to do what we want to do. 615 00:36:38,550 --> 00:36:42,510 As 1994 came to a close, Britpop was in full swing. 616 00:36:42,670 --> 00:36:44,870 Everything seemed rosy in the world of pop music. 617 00:36:45,030 --> 00:36:48,230 But soon the sun was to cloud over as it became clear there was 618 00:36:48,390 --> 00:36:51,590 only going to be enough room for one band to achieve mega-stardom 619 00:36:51,750 --> 00:36:55,110 and that either Blur or Oasis would have to step aside. 620 00:36:55,270 --> 00:36:58,910 Thus, 1995 was to become the year of the battle of the bands. 621 00:36:59,030 --> 00:37:00,990 # Today is gonna be the day 622 00:37:01,150 --> 00:37:03,030 # That they're gonna throw it back to you 623 00:37:04,390 --> 00:37:09,670 # By now, you should have somehow realised what you gotta do 624 00:37:09,790 --> 00:37:12,150 # I don't believe that anybody 625 00:37:12,270 --> 00:37:15,990 # Feels the way I do about you now # 626 00:37:16,110 --> 00:37:18,670 But, as 1995 dawned, 627 00:37:18,830 --> 00:37:21,270 there was still no sign of the future hostilities. 628 00:37:21,430 --> 00:37:24,630 When you have a record label, you need to have a pub. 629 00:37:24,790 --> 00:37:29,270 Because you don't want these herberts loitering in your office. 630 00:37:29,430 --> 00:37:33,510 The reason we chose the Good Mixer to make our number-two office 631 00:37:33,710 --> 00:37:38,790 was we came in here, it was empty, and we thought, "Well, this is home." 632 00:37:38,950 --> 00:37:42,110 This where we're gonna be really based from now on. 633 00:37:42,310 --> 00:37:47,670 And around that time, a very influential press office called Best In Press had moved in next door. 634 00:37:47,830 --> 00:37:50,990 They were doing press for likes of Pulp and Suede 635 00:37:51,110 --> 00:37:53,310 and Elastica and many more. 636 00:37:53,470 --> 00:37:56,470 And we'd all be drinking in this pub. 637 00:37:56,630 --> 00:38:00,350 Everyone. All the bands came in here. Everyone was getting along 638 00:38:00,510 --> 00:38:02,510 and everything was going swimmingly well. 639 00:38:02,670 --> 00:38:05,430 Oasis, certainly, were coming in here 640 00:38:05,590 --> 00:38:10,150 and having beers with Blur and all of the various artists. 641 00:38:10,270 --> 00:38:11,910 Blur were doing well with Parklife. 642 00:38:12,070 --> 00:38:15,350 Their lead single, Girls and Boys, had done incredibly well. 643 00:38:15,510 --> 00:38:18,230 And so had Oasis with their initial singles, as well. 644 00:38:18,390 --> 00:38:20,350 So, suddenly, you had two indie bands 645 00:38:20,510 --> 00:38:23,830 that normally would've been in the 10s and 20s of the chart, 646 00:38:23,990 --> 00:38:25,950 actually regularly getting into the top ten. 647 00:38:26,110 --> 00:38:28,710 And I think for the media, this is interesting, you know. 648 00:38:28,870 --> 00:38:30,990 You've got this Mancunian working-class band, 649 00:38:31,110 --> 00:38:33,070 really a bit rough and ready, 650 00:38:33,230 --> 00:38:35,750 and then you've got the smart and witty, kind of, er, 651 00:38:35,910 --> 00:38:38,550 art-school vibe, perhaps, inspired by Syd Barrett 652 00:38:38,670 --> 00:38:40,750 and that kind of thing of Blur. 653 00:38:40,910 --> 00:38:44,470 And it kind of created a rivalry as far as the press were concerned 654 00:38:44,630 --> 00:38:46,830 rather than the actual bands themself. 655 00:38:46,990 --> 00:38:50,430 Although I think Noel and Liam were always quick to have a good slag 656 00:38:50,590 --> 00:38:53,230 of someone, if they could, within their interviews. 657 00:38:53,390 --> 00:38:56,150 We wanna be the biggest band in the world... Big as we can be. 658 00:38:56,270 --> 00:38:58,030 ..and that is it, end of story. 659 00:38:58,190 --> 00:39:00,030 And we want the things that go with it. 660 00:39:00,190 --> 00:39:02,830 I want to be a big pop star and do loads of people's heads in. 661 00:39:02,990 --> 00:39:05,710 They're going, 'Look at him.' And I'm going, 'Uhhh!' 662 00:39:05,870 --> 00:39:07,830 I didn't work for either of them by then. 663 00:39:07,950 --> 00:39:09,870 But the stuff that Noel said about 664 00:39:10,030 --> 00:39:13,150 "I wish they'd die of Aids" and all that stuff. Ouch. 665 00:39:13,350 --> 00:39:17,750 I remember going out with Damon and Alex one night in the West End and bumping into Liam 666 00:39:17,910 --> 00:39:21,030 and Liam acting like a complete gorilla towards them 667 00:39:21,190 --> 00:39:23,670 and being really, really quite awkward. 668 00:39:23,830 --> 00:39:25,590 And I think, actually, that was the... 669 00:39:25,750 --> 00:39:27,950 I always remember that night happening, 670 00:39:28,110 --> 00:39:30,790 where Damon felt his feathers ruffled a little bit 671 00:39:30,990 --> 00:39:36,510 and thought, 'We'll see. If that means we are in competition, we are in competition.' 672 00:39:36,670 --> 00:39:39,790 Liam likes to be more in-your-face than I do. 673 00:39:40,830 --> 00:39:42,470 But I'm harder. 674 00:39:42,670 --> 00:39:47,510 Best band about today, on the planet. That's a fact. 675 00:39:47,790 --> 00:39:49,750 # Some might say 676 00:39:49,870 --> 00:39:53,670 # We will find a brighter day # 677 00:39:54,670 --> 00:39:59,070 The rivalry between Blur and Oasis grew in intensity in April 1995, 678 00:39:59,270 --> 00:40:04,070 when, for the first time, Oasis had a number-one single with Some Might Say. 679 00:40:04,270 --> 00:40:07,950 To celebrate its success, a party was organised at a club in central London 680 00:40:08,110 --> 00:40:11,750 and, surprisingly, Blur were on the guest list. 681 00:40:11,910 --> 00:40:13,990 Yeah, they were there. We invited them. 682 00:40:14,110 --> 00:40:16,030 And Oasis were tired. 683 00:40:17,030 --> 00:40:19,350 I remember Noel saying, "Are Blur coming?" 684 00:40:19,510 --> 00:40:21,510 And I went, "Yeah." And he went, "Uhh." 685 00:40:21,670 --> 00:40:26,790 So he was... I don't know. I think he knew that Liam would have a go. 686 00:40:26,950 --> 00:40:32,550 And then Liam had a go at Damon about being number one. 687 00:40:32,710 --> 00:40:34,710 It's just the way life goes, you know. 688 00:40:35,630 --> 00:40:37,590 There was now no turning back 689 00:40:37,750 --> 00:40:40,470 and a head-on clash between the two bands seemed inevitable. 690 00:40:40,670 --> 00:40:44,590 This was to take place when both Blur and Oasis would release singles on the same day - 691 00:40:44,710 --> 00:40:47,430 14th August 1995. 692 00:40:47,590 --> 00:40:52,630 Both bands had important singles coming out around the same time 693 00:40:52,790 --> 00:40:58,510 and the boss of Parlophone, who we are affiliated to, 694 00:40:58,670 --> 00:41:01,830 was very good friends with the manager of Oasis. 695 00:41:01,990 --> 00:41:06,310 And for six months, the two had been in touch with each other 696 00:41:06,470 --> 00:41:09,310 to make sure that the two singles did not clash. 697 00:41:09,430 --> 00:41:11,350 They'd have their number one 698 00:41:11,510 --> 00:41:13,950 and then two weeks later, we'd have our number one 699 00:41:14,070 --> 00:41:15,990 and everyone would be happy. 700 00:41:16,150 --> 00:41:19,150 And then we found out their release date was one week before ours 701 00:41:19,270 --> 00:41:21,230 and we couldn't fathom that at all. 702 00:41:21,390 --> 00:41:24,110 So we thought, "What do we do about this?" And we thought, 703 00:41:24,270 --> 00:41:27,910 "Well, either we run and hide or we switch our release date 704 00:41:28,030 --> 00:41:30,790 and go head-to-head with Oasis." 705 00:41:30,950 --> 00:41:33,110 Basically, we released a single on the same day 706 00:41:33,270 --> 00:41:37,030 because it was either that or a punch-up. 707 00:41:37,190 --> 00:41:39,070 And we thought there'd be less bloodshed. 708 00:41:39,230 --> 00:41:41,110 Once it became clear that these two singles 709 00:41:41,270 --> 00:41:43,390 were gonna be indeed released on the same day, 710 00:41:43,550 --> 00:41:47,510 it became like a... like pick your side, pick your team. 711 00:41:47,670 --> 00:41:49,870 And it was amazing. I can remember going into HMV 712 00:41:50,030 --> 00:41:52,710 and seeing the singles stacked right next to each other 713 00:41:52,870 --> 00:41:55,070 and the media and the press picking up on it. 714 00:41:55,230 --> 00:41:57,310 And when the BBC News picked up on it, 715 00:41:57,470 --> 00:42:00,150 I just thought this is really going too far now. 716 00:42:00,350 --> 00:42:05,350 The Manchester band Oasis and their arch rivals Blur have released new singles today, 717 00:42:05,510 --> 00:42:08,070 each hoping to reach the number-one spot next week. 718 00:42:08,230 --> 00:42:11,150 The music industry hasn't seen anything like it since the Beatles 719 00:42:11,310 --> 00:42:13,470 and the Rolling Stones fought it out in the 60s. 720 00:42:13,630 --> 00:42:16,550 Both singles, which I think were Country House and Roll With It, 721 00:42:16,710 --> 00:42:18,790 were not representative of those groups at all. 722 00:42:18,950 --> 00:42:22,310 They were actually one of the least important and the least effective 723 00:42:22,430 --> 00:42:24,470 records that either group ever made. 724 00:42:24,630 --> 00:42:27,470 Country House was a strange aberration 725 00:42:27,630 --> 00:42:32,030 into a kind of faux-Cockney vaudeville. A bit of a knees-up. 726 00:42:32,190 --> 00:42:35,470 # He lives in a house a very big house in the country 727 00:42:37,030 --> 00:42:40,910 # Watching afternoon repeats and the food he eats in the country # 728 00:42:41,190 --> 00:42:43,830 And Roll With It I don't remember anything about at all. 729 00:42:43,950 --> 00:42:45,990 It was a completely uneventful song. 730 00:42:46,150 --> 00:42:49,670 # You've gotta roll with it You've gotta take your time 731 00:42:49,830 --> 00:42:53,510 # You gotta say what you say Don't let anybody... # 732 00:42:53,670 --> 00:42:56,390 They both produced much better work but that was the moment 733 00:42:56,550 --> 00:42:58,670 when they had to come up with the killer record 734 00:42:58,830 --> 00:43:01,710 and the whole world would conspire to pit them against each other. 735 00:43:01,870 --> 00:43:06,790 Blur v Oasis was essentially an NME cover. They put Blur v Oasis 736 00:43:06,950 --> 00:43:09,630 with an old-fashioned drawing of a boxer between them. 737 00:43:09,830 --> 00:43:13,830 It was very good front cover. That was it really, it became a good news story. 738 00:43:14,030 --> 00:43:18,230 You know what probably happened. The probably both wanted to be on the cover 739 00:43:18,430 --> 00:43:22,270 and they couldn't give them both the cover or neither of them would do an interview. 740 00:43:22,470 --> 00:43:27,110 Now, it's being called the biggest battle in pop music for nearly 30 years. 741 00:43:27,310 --> 00:43:32,510 Two of Britain's leading bands, Blur and Oasis, released singles on the same day last week, 742 00:43:32,670 --> 00:43:35,110 backed by massive marketing campaigns. 743 00:43:35,270 --> 00:43:37,670 The result was announced on BBC Radio yesterday, 744 00:43:37,870 --> 00:43:42,350 with Blur going straight into the charts at number one and Oasis at number two. 745 00:43:42,470 --> 00:43:44,470 (HORN HONKING) 746 00:43:44,590 --> 00:43:47,150 Hello, we're Blur, we're number one 747 00:43:47,310 --> 00:43:49,870 and we're gonna be camping it up later on Top of the Pops. 748 00:43:52,590 --> 00:43:56,270 Tonight, Blur are Top of the Pops. 749 00:44:03,510 --> 00:44:05,590 # So the story begins 750 00:44:05,710 --> 00:44:08,030 # City dweller, successful fella 751 00:44:08,190 --> 00:44:10,950 # Thought to himself, "Oops, I've got a lot of money" 752 00:44:11,070 --> 00:44:14,390 # Caught in a rat race, terminally # 753 00:44:14,550 --> 00:44:18,110 The reason that we got number one and they didn't 754 00:44:18,230 --> 00:44:20,550 was so mundane, it's unbelievable. 755 00:44:20,710 --> 00:44:25,830 It was because we had a better selection of formats than they had. 756 00:44:25,990 --> 00:44:28,590 They had a seven inch. We went for a cassette. 757 00:44:28,710 --> 00:44:33,550 # Blow me out, I am so sad 758 00:44:33,670 --> 00:44:36,790 # I don't know why 759 00:44:38,510 --> 00:44:41,790 # Blow, blow me out 760 00:44:41,910 --> 00:44:44,750 # I am so sad 761 00:44:44,870 --> 00:44:48,190 # I don't know why # 762 00:44:48,350 --> 00:44:50,350 And then in the evening, we celebrated. 763 00:44:50,510 --> 00:44:52,950 We were number one and Oasis was number two. 764 00:44:53,110 --> 00:44:56,990 And it didn't feel like we'd beaten Oasis particularly. 765 00:44:57,150 --> 00:45:01,550 It felt like we had a number-one record. That was exciting. 766 00:45:01,670 --> 00:45:04,190 The main thing was that 767 00:45:04,350 --> 00:45:08,870 Blur changed their release date and made it a competition. 768 00:45:08,990 --> 00:45:11,510 But, erm... 769 00:45:11,630 --> 00:45:14,070 Which was kind of pathetic 770 00:45:14,230 --> 00:45:18,390 but brilliant in a way for us because it made... 771 00:45:18,550 --> 00:45:20,910 Oasis suddenly as big as Blur when we never were. 772 00:45:21,070 --> 00:45:23,630 We were about a quarter of the size of Blur. 773 00:45:23,790 --> 00:45:28,070 We were 500,000, they were at two million. And suddenly... 774 00:45:28,230 --> 00:45:32,710 we had this fight in public, we lost. 775 00:45:32,870 --> 00:45:36,150 But then we put out Morning Glory and then we smashed it. 776 00:45:36,270 --> 00:45:40,030 # And so, Sally can wait 777 00:45:40,190 --> 00:45:45,990 # She knows it's too late as we're walking on by 778 00:45:47,990 --> 00:45:51,870 # Her soul slides away 779 00:45:52,030 --> 00:45:57,310 # But don't look back in anger, I heard you say # 780 00:45:57,470 --> 00:46:00,830 Noel Gallagher's got a great quote, so I'll paraphrase him. 781 00:46:00,990 --> 00:46:03,710 He said they set the stage up for Blur and the music press 782 00:46:03,910 --> 00:46:08,350 and he goes, 'Then we turned up, they didn't want us but we took the stage.' 783 00:46:08,510 --> 00:46:11,230 Cos it was never planned that a Manchester band 784 00:46:11,390 --> 00:46:13,830 would kind of turn up and gate-crash its own party. 785 00:46:13,990 --> 00:46:16,470 Cos the party was a Manchester party. 786 00:46:16,670 --> 00:46:20,510 Blur had kind of taken over. They were the biggest band in the country. 787 00:46:20,710 --> 00:46:24,750 Along turns up Noel, his little brother and his ragbag of a band from Manchester. 788 00:46:24,950 --> 00:46:28,630 They ended up being the biggest band in the country. Completely not the plan, 789 00:46:28,750 --> 00:46:30,670 but all the more brilliant for it. 790 00:46:31,670 --> 00:46:33,630 With the release of the album, 791 00:46:33,830 --> 00:46:39,550 (What's The Story) Morning Glory? in October 1995, Oasis, who had lost the battle of the singles, 792 00:46:39,670 --> 00:46:42,190 finally wound up winning the war. 793 00:46:42,350 --> 00:46:45,350 The album was to stay top three of the charts for seven months 794 00:46:45,510 --> 00:46:49,110 and become the third-biggest-selling British album of all time. 795 00:46:49,870 --> 00:46:52,710 Best singer, best songwriter. Best band. 796 00:46:53,110 --> 00:46:58,150 How old are you? 14. How old are you? ALL: 14 797 00:46:58,310 --> 00:47:02,470 On the crest of a wave, Oasis made 1996 their year, 798 00:47:02,630 --> 00:47:05,030 playing concerts in front of huge audiences, 799 00:47:05,190 --> 00:47:09,030 whether, it'd be the 50,000 fans who made their way to Knebworth 800 00:47:09,190 --> 00:47:12,310 or those who filled Maine Road football stadium in Manchester. 801 00:47:17,750 --> 00:47:20,630 The biggest band in Britain were the best band in Britain. 802 00:47:20,790 --> 00:47:25,270 There was like 20,000 kids, teenagers, singing every word 803 00:47:25,430 --> 00:47:28,910 and it felt like those films of the Beatles. I'd never seen that. 804 00:47:29,030 --> 00:47:30,590 It felt like a victory. 805 00:47:30,710 --> 00:47:32,630 # Some Might Say 806 00:47:36,830 --> 00:47:39,630 I think it was a victory. 807 00:47:39,790 --> 00:47:43,390 It was one of these victories that bemused all concerned. 808 00:47:43,510 --> 00:47:45,870 I remember Noel and me going back 809 00:47:46,030 --> 00:47:50,150 to see him in his little caravan after it 810 00:47:50,310 --> 00:47:52,550 and he went, "I don't know what we do now." 811 00:47:52,710 --> 00:47:55,190 He was confused, you know what I mean? 812 00:47:56,470 --> 00:47:59,310 He looked...he looked... 813 00:48:01,310 --> 00:48:03,310 ..shell-shocked, to be honest. 814 00:48:03,470 --> 00:48:05,390 There has to be something that comes after us 815 00:48:05,550 --> 00:48:07,870 that's so far removed from what we're doing 816 00:48:08,030 --> 00:48:09,910 and it has to go in a different direction. 817 00:48:10,030 --> 00:48:12,670 If it doesn't, I'd be quite upset. 818 00:48:12,790 --> 00:48:14,710 I'll probably have to do it myself. 819 00:48:14,910 --> 00:48:18,670 You know what I mean? Cos everyone's so lazy and can't get off their arse. 820 00:48:18,830 --> 00:48:21,830 I'll have to invent a new form of music just to do my own head in. 821 00:48:23,230 --> 00:48:25,190 # PULP: Common People 822 00:48:33,430 --> 00:48:36,390 The victory of Britpop was the victory of the man in the street. 823 00:48:36,590 --> 00:48:40,750 In less than ten years, those who had previously been marginalised by society 824 00:48:40,950 --> 00:48:45,070 were now role models in a rapidly-changing British social landscape. 825 00:48:45,230 --> 00:48:47,350 Whether it'd be football, music or fashion, 826 00:48:47,510 --> 00:48:49,830 street culture was no longer looked down upon 827 00:48:49,990 --> 00:48:53,070 but rather seen as something to copy and aspire to. 828 00:48:53,190 --> 00:48:55,670 # You want to live like common people 829 00:48:55,830 --> 00:48:59,390 # You want to see whatever common people see 830 00:48:59,550 --> 00:49:02,430 # You want to sleep with common people 831 00:49:02,590 --> 00:49:06,110 # You want to sleep with common people like me? 832 00:49:06,230 --> 00:49:09,430 # But she didn't understand 833 00:49:09,550 --> 00:49:13,390 # She just smiled and held my hand # 834 00:49:13,550 --> 00:49:17,230 On 1st May 1997, Tony Blair became Prime Minister of Britain 835 00:49:17,350 --> 00:49:19,310 thus ending 18 years of Tory rule. 836 00:49:19,510 --> 00:49:23,030 His landslide victory was in part due to a general sense of having had enough, 837 00:49:23,190 --> 00:49:26,190 but also to a wave of optimism which had been sweeping the country 838 00:49:26,350 --> 00:49:28,910 and which in part could be laid at the door of Britpop. 839 00:49:29,070 --> 00:49:32,950 And yet in 1997, the press headlines no longer spoke of Britpop 840 00:49:33,070 --> 00:49:35,070 but rather of Cool Britannia, 841 00:49:35,230 --> 00:49:38,070 a marketing phrase concocted by media and politicians alike 842 00:49:38,230 --> 00:49:41,390 to publicize this new, young, vibrant Britain. 843 00:49:41,550 --> 00:49:44,390 The Cool Britannia thing was just opportunism 844 00:49:44,510 --> 00:49:46,750 by the political parties involved 845 00:49:46,910 --> 00:49:49,870 to try and latch on to this kind of popularity 846 00:49:50,030 --> 00:49:52,750 that was currently being enjoyed by those kind of bands. 847 00:49:52,910 --> 00:49:55,990 I think if you look at Damon and Noel, 848 00:49:56,150 --> 00:49:59,390 they felt uncomfortable being involved with that anyway. 849 00:49:59,550 --> 00:50:02,190 Even though Blur's success put them on top of the world, 850 00:50:02,390 --> 00:50:06,510 they still felt the need to distance themselves from Tony Blair's Cool Britannia. 851 00:50:06,670 --> 00:50:10,350 Leaving for Iceland, they there recorded their fifth album 852 00:50:10,550 --> 00:50:14,190 in a style more reminiscent of American indie rock than of British pop. 853 00:50:14,350 --> 00:50:17,350 The Britpop years seemed no more than a distant memory. 854 00:50:17,470 --> 00:50:18,990 # Whoo-hoo! 855 00:50:20,470 --> 00:50:22,110 # Whoo-hoo! # 856 00:50:22,270 --> 00:50:25,670 It was a weird time in Britain, where the music got very insular 857 00:50:25,790 --> 00:50:29,510 and we all got, you know, 858 00:50:29,670 --> 00:50:34,030 very carried away with the idea of British music taking over the world 859 00:50:34,190 --> 00:50:36,950 and stupid things like that, you know. 860 00:50:37,110 --> 00:50:40,270 But was that something you were probably responsible for? 861 00:50:40,390 --> 00:50:43,150 In part, yeah. But, erm... 862 00:50:44,630 --> 00:50:48,270 I mean, it all seems a bit kind of ludicrous to me now, and juvenile. 863 00:50:48,750 --> 00:50:52,670 A few weeks after his election, Tony Blair held a reception at Downing Street 864 00:50:52,870 --> 00:50:56,630 for those who, in his opinion, best represented the ideology of Cool Britannia. 865 00:50:56,790 --> 00:50:59,790 Amongst the guests, were both Noel Gallagher and Alan McGee. 866 00:50:59,990 --> 00:51:04,350 In only two or three years, Noel Gallagher had moved from a bedroom in a suburb of Manchester 867 00:51:04,510 --> 00:51:07,390 to the Prime Minister's private residence. 868 00:51:07,590 --> 00:51:12,510 I don't regret that, going to Downing Street, because I knew I was never gonna be asked back. 869 00:51:13,070 --> 00:51:16,470 Noel's working class and I'm working class and it's a bit like, 870 00:51:16,630 --> 00:51:19,710 if somebody asks you to go to the Prime Minister's gaff 871 00:51:19,870 --> 00:51:22,550 do you know what, you may as well have a little look. 872 00:51:22,710 --> 00:51:26,830 So, whether that is cool or not, I really couldn't give a shit. 873 00:51:28,030 --> 00:51:31,790 By 1997, Oasis had become the biggest band in the world. 874 00:51:31,950 --> 00:51:34,750 Everything they did was henceforth, on a monumental scale. 875 00:51:36,430 --> 00:51:39,590 Their third album Be Here Now was released in August 1997 876 00:51:39,710 --> 00:51:41,510 to rave reviews. 877 00:51:41,710 --> 00:51:45,310 However, despite huge sales of eight million copies before the year was out, 878 00:51:45,470 --> 00:51:48,310 it came to be regarded as something of a failure, artistically, 879 00:51:48,430 --> 00:51:50,470 and as symbolizing the end of an era. 880 00:51:50,630 --> 00:51:53,070 The Britpop years had finally come to a close. 881 00:51:55,110 --> 00:51:57,110 But once again, as in the '60s, 882 00:51:57,310 --> 00:52:01,550 Britpop had shown the capacity of music to change radically the face of British society. 883 00:52:03,510 --> 00:52:05,630 I'm not sure you're gonna see it again. 884 00:52:05,790 --> 00:52:11,230 I think we're moving into a new dimension of musicality, 885 00:52:11,390 --> 00:52:15,750 where people receive and consume music in a completely different way. 886 00:52:15,910 --> 00:52:18,790 So, I'm not sure we are gonna see the same thing again. 887 00:52:18,950 --> 00:52:23,510 That was the last time, I think, there was that white heat, 888 00:52:23,630 --> 00:52:25,750 that intensity of a relationship 889 00:52:25,910 --> 00:52:29,310 between the kind of rock'n'roll consumer, the fan, if you like, 890 00:52:29,430 --> 00:52:30,910 and the rock band. 891 00:52:31,070 --> 00:52:33,950 And that is what produces great legends 892 00:52:34,110 --> 00:52:39,870 and produces golden eras, if you like, like the mid '90s. 893 00:52:40,030 --> 00:52:44,430 My personal thoughts about Britpop is that everyone had a great time. 894 00:52:44,590 --> 00:52:49,750 We had a lot of fun and any legacy, musical or otherwise, is a bonus. 895 00:52:49,870 --> 00:52:52,470 # Come and play the tunes of glory 896 00:52:53,310 --> 00:52:56,190 # Raise your voice in celebration 897 00:52:56,990 --> 00:52:59,950 # Of the days that we have wasted 898 00:53:00,070 --> 00:53:01,990 # In the cafe 899 00:53:02,110 --> 00:53:04,030 # In the station 900 00:53:04,150 --> 00:53:07,150 # And learn the meaning of existence 901 00:53:07,950 --> 00:53:10,870 # In fortnightly instalments 902 00:53:11,310 --> 00:53:14,750 # Come share this golden age with me 903 00:53:15,070 --> 00:53:17,830 # In my single-room apartment 904 00:53:18,550 --> 00:53:21,430 # And if it all amounts to nothing 905 00:53:22,110 --> 00:53:23,790 # It doesn't matter 906 00:53:23,910 --> 00:53:28,070 # These are still our glory days... # 907 00:53:28,830 --> 00:53:31,670 subtitles by Deluxe E-mail sky.subtitles@sky.uk 82284

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