1 00:00:05,606 --> 00:00:07,498 {\an8} In the criminal justice system, 2 00:00:07,499 --> 00:00:09,008 {\an8}sexually based offenses 3 00:00:09,009 --> 00:00:11,110 {\an8}are considered especially heinous. 4 00:00:11,111 --> 00:00:13,614 {\an8}In New York City, the dedicated detectives 5 00:00:13,714 --> 00:00:15,515 {\an8}who investigate these vicious felonies 6 00:00:15,516 --> 00:00:17,050 {\an8}are members of an elite squad 7 00:00:17,150 --> 00:00:18,911 {\an8}known as the Special Victims Unit. 8 00:00:19,011 --> 00:00:20,854 {\an8}These are their stories. 9 00:00:26,009 --> 00:00:28,060 - Hi, Captain. - Gwen. 10 00:00:28,061 --> 00:00:29,729 Are you waiting for me? 11 00:00:29,730 --> 00:00:31,532 I figured you were about to clock out. 12 00:00:31,632 --> 00:00:34,333 Okay. Is everything all right? 13 00:00:34,334 --> 00:00:36,694 Yeah, I just have a case I'd like to chat with you about, 14 00:00:36,695 --> 00:00:38,538 if you've got the time. 15 00:00:39,932 --> 00:00:41,908 Okay. 16 00:00:41,909 --> 00:00:44,110 I've been getting letters for years... 17 00:00:44,111 --> 00:00:45,695 "Please take a look at his case. 18 00:00:45,696 --> 00:00:47,105 He's innocent." 19 00:00:47,205 --> 00:00:48,272 I finally did. 20 00:00:48,273 --> 00:00:49,650 Okay. 21 00:00:49,750 --> 00:00:52,819 Do you think she's right? 22 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:55,346 It's possible. 23 00:00:55,347 --> 00:00:57,057 I have some questions. 24 00:00:57,157 --> 00:01:00,786 He's been incarcerated since 1998. 25 00:01:00,886 --> 00:01:02,053 We need answers. 26 00:01:02,054 --> 00:01:04,298 Okay. Well, I'm happy to take a look. 27 00:01:04,398 --> 00:01:06,358 It's the Claire Sobol murder. 28 00:01:09,937 --> 00:01:11,305 Are you... are you kidding me right now? 29 00:01:11,405 --> 00:01:12,973 This is not an ambush. 30 00:01:13,073 --> 00:01:15,508 Gwen, you know that that was my case. 31 00:01:15,509 --> 00:01:17,443 I'm not accusing you of... 32 00:01:17,444 --> 00:01:18,979 Of putting an innocent man in prison? 33 00:01:19,079 --> 00:01:20,681 If I'm wrong, I'm happy to be wrong. 34 00:01:20,814 --> 00:01:23,065 But if I'm right, 35 00:01:23,066 --> 00:01:25,952 you might be able to help fix this. 36 00:01:25,953 --> 00:01:28,922 Well. Wow. 37 00:01:36,563 --> 00:01:41,417 This is one of my first cases at SVU. 38 00:01:41,418 --> 00:01:43,270 I was very new. 39 00:01:45,088 --> 00:01:47,107 I'm sorry about the subterfuge. 40 00:01:57,284 --> 00:01:58,384 Where is he? 41 00:01:58,385 --> 00:02:00,512 Attica. 42 00:02:00,612 --> 00:02:03,348 I just wanna go through the investigation with you 43 00:02:03,448 --> 00:02:05,358 one last time. 44 00:02:05,359 --> 00:02:06,994 I tried to reach out to the other detective 45 00:02:07,094 --> 00:02:08,728 on the case, your old partner. 46 00:02:08,729 --> 00:02:10,112 He hasn't returned my calls. 47 00:02:10,113 --> 00:02:12,299 Yeah. 48 00:02:21,792 --> 00:02:23,209 Hey. 49 00:02:23,210 --> 00:02:25,277 Grab another rope. We can do Double Dutch. 50 00:02:25,278 --> 00:02:27,179 - So, Elliot... - I know. 51 00:02:27,180 --> 00:02:28,447 I've been off the grid there for a while, 52 00:02:28,448 --> 00:02:29,615 and I owe you a couple calls. 53 00:02:29,616 --> 00:02:32,819 We got the Claire Sobol case wrong. 54 00:02:37,290 --> 00:02:39,393 Sister Benedicta? 55 00:02:39,493 --> 00:02:40,893 You know, 56 00:02:40,894 --> 00:02:44,864 maybe we did, maybe... maybe we didn't, um... 57 00:02:44,865 --> 00:02:47,534 but I wanna open the case back up. 58 00:02:47,634 --> 00:02:50,036 - You want a drink? - No, I'm good. 59 00:02:50,037 --> 00:02:51,671 And here I thought you were dropping by 60 00:02:51,672 --> 00:02:53,139 'cause you missed me. 61 00:02:53,140 --> 00:02:55,107 Well, yeah, I do, 62 00:02:55,108 --> 00:02:58,002 but you don't call me back. 63 00:02:58,003 --> 00:03:00,413 I can't force you to talk to me. 64 00:03:00,414 --> 00:03:03,266 I haven't seen you since Cragen's funeral. 65 00:03:05,010 --> 00:03:06,385 On bereavement leave. 66 00:03:06,386 --> 00:03:08,221 For 18 months? 67 00:03:08,321 --> 00:03:09,513 - Really? - Yeah. 68 00:03:09,514 --> 00:03:10,690 Time is crazy. 69 00:03:12,692 --> 00:03:14,585 Look, I know it's gonna be difficult 70 00:03:14,586 --> 00:03:16,679 to get back into this case. 71 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,599 But I have some questions. 72 00:03:19,700 --> 00:03:21,667 I'm not wasting my time on some skell 73 00:03:21,668 --> 00:03:23,261 who raped and murdered a nun. 74 00:03:23,361 --> 00:03:24,404 You knock yourself out. 75 00:03:24,504 --> 00:03:25,705 I'll pass. 76 00:03:29,601 --> 00:03:31,143 You know, I wanna be there for you 77 00:03:31,144 --> 00:03:32,712 and I wanna be your friend, 78 00:03:32,713 --> 00:03:35,514 but I gotta tell you, you make it really, really 79 00:03:35,515 --> 00:03:36,983 difficult sometimes. 80 00:03:37,117 --> 00:03:39,318 Liv. 81 00:03:39,319 --> 00:03:40,804 We're not friends. 82 00:03:42,447 --> 00:03:43,789 Okay. 83 00:03:43,790 --> 00:03:45,617 Well, good luck, Elliot. Good luck. 84 00:03:45,717 --> 00:03:47,860 Liv, Liv, wait a minute. Look, I didn't mean that. 85 00:03:47,861 --> 00:03:51,697 Okay, I'm looking into this case. 86 00:03:51,698 --> 00:03:53,566 I'd like you to do it with me. 87 00:03:53,567 --> 00:03:57,887 But you keep closing yourself off and that's your choice. 88 00:03:57,888 --> 00:03:59,439 But I think it's a mistake 89 00:03:59,539 --> 00:04:01,908 based on your current state of mind. 90 00:04:06,413 --> 00:04:12,551 You know, you're the one that always said we right wrongs. 91 00:04:12,552 --> 00:04:15,088 I think you need to remember who you are. 92 00:05:12,913 --> 00:05:14,371 She was 25 years old. 93 00:05:14,372 --> 00:05:16,081 She was from Wisconsin originally, 94 00:05:16,082 --> 00:05:19,043 {\an8}and she came here to be a dancer and changed her mind. 95 00:05:19,044 --> 00:05:20,553 {\an8}Well, that's quite a 180. 96 00:05:20,554 --> 00:05:22,322 {\an8}Yeah, but by all accounts, she was beloved. 97 00:05:22,422 --> 00:05:24,991 {\an8}She was a preschool teacher and she coached 98 00:05:25,091 --> 00:05:27,894 {\an8}a youth soccer team in her community. She... 99 00:05:27,994 --> 00:05:29,428 {\an8}That I would have loved to have seen. 100 00:05:29,429 --> 00:05:30,763 {\an8}Yeah. 101 00:05:30,764 --> 00:05:32,798 {\an8}All right, so we just gonna divide and conquer, see... 102 00:05:32,799 --> 00:05:33,867 {\an8}Guys, no, no, no. 103 00:05:33,967 --> 00:05:35,401 {\an8}You have enough cases on your plate. 104 00:05:35,402 --> 00:05:36,735 {\an8}Seriously. - It won't take long. 105 00:05:36,736 --> 00:05:38,604 {\an8}Yeah. Griff and I got this one. 106 00:05:38,605 --> 00:05:40,507 {\an8}Okay. Thank you. 107 00:05:40,607 --> 00:05:43,093 {\an8}Hey, so I picked up this loiterer outside. 108 00:05:44,611 --> 00:05:46,571 Elliot Stabler, this is the newest 109 00:05:46,671 --> 00:05:48,380 {\an8}version of the SVU squad. 110 00:05:48,381 --> 00:05:49,574 {\an8}Detective, how are you? 111 00:05:49,674 --> 00:05:51,141 {\an8}Hey, Amanda. 112 00:05:51,142 --> 00:05:52,309 {\an8}Curry. Rat squad, right? 113 00:05:52,310 --> 00:05:54,386 {\an8}Yeah, that's right. 114 00:05:54,387 --> 00:05:56,256 {\an8}I know all about you, Detective Stabler. 115 00:05:56,356 --> 00:05:57,415 {\an8}I'll take that as a compliment. 116 00:05:57,515 --> 00:05:59,192 {\an8}I wouldn't. 117 00:05:59,292 --> 00:06:00,927 {\an8}You in? 118 00:06:01,027 --> 00:06:02,988 {\an8}Let's take it apart. 119 00:06:06,132 --> 00:06:08,926 {\an8}He wasn't an angel, absolutely. 120 00:06:08,927 --> 00:06:11,237 {\an8}He'd gotten caught up in the crack epidemic 121 00:06:11,238 --> 00:06:13,806 {\an8}of the early '90s. We all remember that. 122 00:06:13,807 --> 00:06:15,541 {\an8}He'd gotten clean. 123 00:06:15,542 --> 00:06:18,210 {\an8}His parole officer said he had never missed an appointment. 124 00:06:18,211 --> 00:06:20,029 {\an8}He had a spotless record for four years. 125 00:06:20,030 --> 00:06:22,314 {\an8}And prior to that, he had a rap sheet standing back 126 00:06:22,315 --> 00:06:24,208 {\an8}12 years with seven collars. 127 00:06:24,209 --> 00:06:26,118 {\an8}But none of them were violent offenses. 128 00:06:26,119 --> 00:06:27,945 {\an8}And do you know how many serial rapists 129 00:06:27,946 --> 00:06:29,388 {\an8}started out as peeping toms? 130 00:06:29,389 --> 00:06:31,624 {\an8}So look, what we have here is a scumbag 131 00:06:31,625 --> 00:06:34,893 {\an8}in a convent full of nuns with access and opportunity. 132 00:06:34,894 --> 00:06:36,720 {\an8}Well, that's all true. 133 00:06:36,721 --> 00:06:39,123 {\an8}And you did find his prints on the murder weapon. 134 00:06:39,124 --> 00:06:40,066 {\an8}Yeah, well, Greene claimed 135 00:06:40,166 --> 00:06:42,201 {\an8}that he pulled it out in an effort 136 00:06:42,202 --> 00:06:43,394 {\an8}to resuscitate her. 137 00:06:43,395 --> 00:06:45,304 {\an8}Yeah, well. 138 00:06:45,305 --> 00:06:46,805 {\an8}You didn't believe that? 139 00:06:46,806 --> 00:06:47,773 {\an8}No. 140 00:06:47,774 --> 00:06:50,309 {\an8}His hands were covered in blood. 141 00:06:50,310 --> 00:06:52,445 {\an8}So was his clothing, which could have come 142 00:06:52,545 --> 00:06:54,914 {\an8}from performing CPR. 143 00:06:55,015 --> 00:06:57,651 {\an8}And it's also very possible it came from him 144 00:06:57,751 --> 00:06:59,752 {\an8}stabbing her 28 times. 145 00:06:59,753 --> 00:07:01,646 {\an8}Let's get down to it. 146 00:07:01,746 --> 00:07:03,623 {\an8}Why? 147 00:07:03,723 --> 00:07:04,890 {\an8}'Cause I feel as though you're here 148 00:07:04,891 --> 00:07:06,575 {\an8}to try and put us on the hook. 149 00:07:06,576 --> 00:07:10,087 {\an8}Detective, I... seriously, I have no agenda. 150 00:07:10,088 --> 00:07:11,489 {\an8}I just know that Greene has always 151 00:07:11,589 --> 00:07:12,931 {\an8}maintained his innocence. 152 00:07:12,932 --> 00:07:14,667 {\an8}He has never changed his story. 153 00:07:14,668 --> 00:07:15,868 {\an8}I know that his defense attorney 154 00:07:15,869 --> 00:07:18,504 {\an8}was notoriously incompetent. 155 00:07:18,505 --> 00:07:20,498 {\an8}There was no DNA from the rape kit. 156 00:07:20,598 --> 00:07:22,309 {\an8}And your chief forensic evidence 157 00:07:22,409 --> 00:07:24,435 {\an8}would be thrown out in today's court. 158 00:07:24,436 --> 00:07:26,445 {\an8}The bite mark on her shoulder. 159 00:07:26,446 --> 00:07:29,014 {\an8}That bite mark evidence, as you know, 160 00:07:29,015 --> 00:07:32,518 {\an8}has been considered junk science since the early 2000s 161 00:07:32,519 --> 00:07:36,389 {\an8}and has resulted in 63% rate of false identifications. 162 00:07:36,489 --> 00:07:41,118 {\an8}Plus, there's the matter of the interview after his arrest. 163 00:07:41,119 --> 00:07:43,630 {\an8}You know, I couldn't find the videotape. 164 00:07:45,023 --> 00:07:46,115 {\an8}Did you record it? 165 00:07:48,368 --> 00:07:50,436 {\an8}No. 166 00:07:50,437 --> 00:07:52,005 {\an8}Why not? 167 00:07:52,105 --> 00:07:53,739 {\an8}I can't remember. 168 00:07:53,740 --> 00:07:54,940 {\an8}Captain, do you? 169 00:07:54,941 --> 00:07:57,977 {\an8}I was not part of that interrogation. 170 00:08:00,780 --> 00:08:02,982 {\an8}Was that always how you did things? 171 00:08:04,476 --> 00:08:06,643 {\an8}I kept her out of it. 172 00:08:06,644 --> 00:08:08,755 {\an8}So you've never spoken to him, Captain? 173 00:08:08,888 --> 00:08:10,490 {\an8}No, I have not. 174 00:08:13,393 --> 00:08:16,053 {\an8}Well, I have, last week. 175 00:08:16,054 --> 00:08:18,389 {\an8}Made the drive up to Attica. 176 00:08:18,390 --> 00:08:20,166 {\an8}You might wanna do the same. 177 00:08:26,139 --> 00:08:27,232 {\an8}I'm not buying it. 178 00:08:27,332 --> 00:08:29,508 {\an8}Buying what? 179 00:08:29,509 --> 00:08:31,402 {\an8}She wants us to let this guy go because one piece 180 00:08:31,403 --> 00:08:32,845 {\an8}of evidence doesn't hold up? 181 00:08:32,846 --> 00:08:33,880 {\an8}She's out of her mind. 182 00:08:33,980 --> 00:08:35,906 {\an8}It's a pretty big piece of evidence. 183 00:08:35,907 --> 00:08:37,917 {\an8}So is his fingerprints on the murder weapon. 184 00:08:38,018 --> 00:08:40,502 {\an8}Liv, we were there. She wasn't. 185 00:08:44,324 --> 00:08:46,084 {\an8}Are you really going up there? 186 00:08:46,184 --> 00:08:47,993 {\an8}Yeah, I am. 187 00:08:47,994 --> 00:08:49,962 {\an8}I have a bunch of personal days saved, 188 00:08:49,963 --> 00:08:53,425 {\an8}and I can take the day off. 189 00:08:53,525 --> 00:08:54,758 {\an8}Why are you doing this? 190 00:08:54,759 --> 00:08:58,037 {\an8}Why aren't you doing this? 191 00:09:00,765 --> 00:09:02,375 {\an8}You know what? Stay here, 192 00:09:02,475 --> 00:09:04,127 {\an8}and I'll let you know how it goes. 193 00:09:13,486 --> 00:09:15,721 {\an8}Curry, you are the ranking officer. 194 00:09:15,722 --> 00:09:18,115 {\an8}You are in charge while I'm gone, okay? 195 00:09:18,116 --> 00:09:20,726 {\an8}I want you to continue with all the open cases. 196 00:09:20,727 --> 00:09:23,062 {\an8}And obviously, I'm reachable by phone. 197 00:09:25,732 --> 00:09:27,192 {\an8}We'll take your car. 198 00:09:29,869 --> 00:09:31,195 {\an8}I'm leaving tomorrow morning. 199 00:09:31,196 --> 00:09:32,471 {\an8}You want some company? 200 00:09:32,472 --> 00:09:33,739 {\an8}I got the time. 201 00:09:33,740 --> 00:09:35,307 {\an8}Well, it looks like Stabler's coming. 202 00:09:35,308 --> 00:09:37,392 {\an8}With respect, Captain, he's not your partner anymore. 203 00:09:37,393 --> 00:09:38,544 {\an8}You don't need his buy-in. 204 00:09:38,545 --> 00:09:40,345 {\an8}It doesn't matter. 205 00:09:40,346 --> 00:09:42,681 {\an8}Some partnerships don't end, 206 00:09:42,682 --> 00:09:44,501 {\an8}even when they do. 207 00:09:56,896 --> 00:09:58,164 Resting my eyes. 208 00:09:58,264 --> 00:09:59,248 You good? 209 00:09:59,249 --> 00:10:00,466 I'm fine. 210 00:10:00,467 --> 00:10:02,868 Your... your snoring is special. 211 00:10:02,869 --> 00:10:04,437 You sound just like Kathy. 212 00:10:08,475 --> 00:10:09,859 How's your mom doing? 213 00:10:11,478 --> 00:10:13,812 Getting worse. 214 00:10:13,813 --> 00:10:16,241 Sometimes she's there. Most of the time, she's not. 215 00:10:17,275 --> 00:10:18,650 It's so brutal watching somebody 216 00:10:18,651 --> 00:10:20,419 you love go through that. 217 00:10:20,420 --> 00:10:22,121 I'm sorry. 218 00:10:22,122 --> 00:10:24,457 She was never the same after my brother. 219 00:10:29,229 --> 00:10:31,965 Why do you have an IAB captain on your squad? 220 00:10:33,449 --> 00:10:35,927 Elliot, what's going on with you? 221 00:10:38,338 --> 00:10:40,240 I always used to be so sure, you know. 222 00:10:40,373 --> 00:10:44,476 My gut, my instinct, I could rely on that. 223 00:10:44,477 --> 00:10:46,879 Like I was invincible. 224 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:48,731 Now... 225 00:10:50,316 --> 00:10:53,210 You... you come to me and tell me 226 00:10:53,211 --> 00:10:55,053 I was wrong about the case. 227 00:10:55,054 --> 00:10:56,788 - That's not what I said. - I know that. I... 228 00:10:56,789 --> 00:10:58,657 I'm only interested in finding out 229 00:10:58,658 --> 00:10:59,926 what really happened. 230 00:11:00,026 --> 00:11:02,912 And if we did make a mistake, then I wanna fix it. 231 00:11:08,067 --> 00:11:10,702 I never understood why you wanted to become captain. 232 00:11:10,703 --> 00:11:14,064 Sitting behind a desk all day, pushing papers, shaking hands 233 00:11:14,065 --> 00:11:17,744 instead of, you know... you let the other people go out 234 00:11:17,844 --> 00:11:19,546 and do the real work. 235 00:11:19,646 --> 00:11:21,905 Is that what you've been doing for the last 18 months? 236 00:11:21,906 --> 00:11:23,574 Have you been doing the real work? 237 00:11:23,575 --> 00:11:25,500 - Don't be mad. Don't be mad. - I'm not mad. 238 00:11:25,501 --> 00:11:26,618 I wasn't even referring to you. 239 00:11:26,619 --> 00:11:29,146 Look at you. You're out. You're out. 240 00:11:29,147 --> 00:11:30,255 You get out. 241 00:11:30,256 --> 00:11:32,424 Like now, on this wild goose chase. 242 00:11:32,425 --> 00:11:34,418 Wild goose chase. Here we go. 243 00:11:34,419 --> 00:11:36,995 So if you don't wanna go, I'm fine with that. 244 00:11:36,996 --> 00:11:38,422 That's not what I'm saying. 245 00:11:38,423 --> 00:11:39,531 I will pull over at the next exit, 246 00:11:39,532 --> 00:11:41,033 and you can take an Uber back to the city. 247 00:11:41,034 --> 00:11:43,570 I mean it. - Cows. 248 00:11:43,670 --> 00:11:49,275 - What? - Cows. 249 00:11:49,375 --> 00:11:50,877 I like cows. 250 00:11:52,045 --> 00:11:53,504 I didn't know that. 251 00:12:01,588 --> 00:12:04,015 Charles, you remember us? 252 00:12:04,958 --> 00:12:07,059 Wow. 253 00:12:07,060 --> 00:12:08,294 You guys look different. 254 00:12:08,394 --> 00:12:10,887 Yeah, my scalp agrees with you. 255 00:12:10,888 --> 00:12:14,716 So we understand that you spoke with Gwen Sharpe 256 00:12:14,717 --> 00:12:17,402 about your case. - Yeah, nice lady. 257 00:12:17,403 --> 00:12:18,670 What'd you talk about? 258 00:12:18,671 --> 00:12:22,241 What happened when I found Sister Benedicta. 259 00:12:22,242 --> 00:12:23,408 Yeah? 260 00:12:23,409 --> 00:12:25,203 And how's your memory 30 years later? 261 00:12:26,446 --> 00:12:28,747 Burned in there, man. 262 00:12:28,748 --> 00:12:30,283 Never gonna forget it. 263 00:12:30,383 --> 00:12:33,144 So will you tell us what happened? 264 00:12:33,244 --> 00:12:34,953 I told him. 265 00:12:34,954 --> 00:12:36,913 So tell me. 266 00:12:49,060 --> 00:12:51,370 She was always nice. 267 00:12:51,371 --> 00:12:52,872 Some of the sisters didn't trust me. 268 00:12:52,972 --> 00:12:56,025 I was an ex-junkie, did time, but she didn't care. 269 00:12:59,512 --> 00:13:01,913 Wasn't even supposed to be there that late. 270 00:13:01,914 --> 00:13:03,841 But this light was out in the courtyard 271 00:13:03,941 --> 00:13:06,752 and I wanted to fix it. 272 00:13:06,753 --> 00:13:09,846 She was on her back. 273 00:13:09,847 --> 00:13:12,257 Clothes were all ripped up. 274 00:13:12,258 --> 00:13:14,293 Her eyes were open. 275 00:13:14,294 --> 00:13:16,396 There was blood all around her. 276 00:13:16,529 --> 00:13:20,115 And the knife, it was just sticking out of her chest. 277 00:13:21,693 --> 00:13:23,036 I wasn't thinking. 278 00:13:23,136 --> 00:13:24,803 I just grabbed it, and I tried to stop the blood, 279 00:13:24,804 --> 00:13:26,738 but it was everywhere. 280 00:13:26,739 --> 00:13:28,974 I yelled for help. 281 00:13:28,975 --> 00:13:30,543 Tried to bring her back. 282 00:13:30,643 --> 00:13:33,079 You did, what, CPR? 283 00:13:33,179 --> 00:13:35,480 Didn't really know how. 284 00:13:35,481 --> 00:13:36,874 She was already gone. 285 00:13:36,974 --> 00:13:38,850 So the body was cold? 286 00:13:38,851 --> 00:13:41,354 Still warm. She wasn't dead that long. 287 00:13:41,454 --> 00:13:43,638 Yeah, well, that testimony was at your trial. 288 00:13:43,639 --> 00:13:45,258 I told you that when we talked. 289 00:13:45,358 --> 00:13:46,925 You didn't write it down. 290 00:13:49,862 --> 00:13:52,998 So the gates... 291 00:13:52,999 --> 00:13:54,800 the gates were locked? 292 00:13:54,801 --> 00:13:56,301 They always were. 293 00:13:56,302 --> 00:13:57,502 So no sign of forced entry. 294 00:13:57,503 --> 00:14:00,072 So if it wasn't you, Charles, are you suggesting 295 00:14:00,073 --> 00:14:03,609 one of the nuns raped and stabbed Sister Benedicta? 296 00:14:03,743 --> 00:14:05,494 I don't know who did it, 297 00:14:05,495 --> 00:14:07,013 but it wasn't me. 298 00:14:10,174 --> 00:14:12,143 I would never hurt her. 299 00:14:15,346 --> 00:14:19,324 Was Sister Benedicta liked by everyone? 300 00:14:19,325 --> 00:14:21,351 I heard her arguing with somebody 301 00:14:21,352 --> 00:14:24,088 a couple of nights before it happened... another lady. 302 00:14:24,188 --> 00:14:26,449 I tried to ask her about it, but she wouldn't say. 303 00:14:29,193 --> 00:14:32,187 Well, that didn't come out in the investigation. 304 00:14:32,188 --> 00:14:37,242 Is this something that you're remembering right now? 305 00:14:37,243 --> 00:14:40,112 I told him. 306 00:14:40,113 --> 00:14:41,146 He wrote it down. 307 00:14:48,780 --> 00:14:50,348 Okay. 308 00:14:51,591 --> 00:14:53,284 Okay. Thank you, Charles. 309 00:14:54,427 --> 00:14:57,830 God, we were so young back then, right? 310 00:14:57,964 --> 00:15:01,400 All those years just gone. 311 00:15:03,569 --> 00:15:06,305 You took 'em from me. 312 00:15:08,132 --> 00:15:10,133 I'm never getting them back. 313 00:15:20,686 --> 00:15:22,220 Yeah, we'll just take that check. 314 00:15:22,221 --> 00:15:23,714 Thank you. 315 00:15:27,994 --> 00:15:29,428 Did you find your notes? 316 00:15:36,035 --> 00:15:39,238 Argument, women, two nights prior. 317 00:15:44,677 --> 00:15:46,928 Wow. 318 00:15:46,929 --> 00:15:47,947 Okay. 319 00:15:50,950 --> 00:15:52,551 What are you thinking? 320 00:15:58,724 --> 00:16:00,593 I'm thinking I'm with you. 321 00:16:03,062 --> 00:16:04,963 I'll, 322 00:16:04,964 --> 00:16:07,958 I'll call Carisi and see what he can do. 323 00:16:07,959 --> 00:16:11,436 It's still not gonna make things right. 324 00:16:11,437 --> 00:16:13,130 Elliot, we can start by finding out 325 00:16:13,231 --> 00:16:15,558 who really did this. 326 00:16:19,979 --> 00:16:21,613 Hey, Curry. 327 00:16:21,614 --> 00:16:23,115 We found the Mother Superior 328 00:16:23,216 --> 00:16:25,250 from the Solemnity of Mary convent. 329 00:16:25,251 --> 00:16:26,652 She's still alive. 330 00:16:26,786 --> 00:16:29,655 She's living in a retirement home for nuns up in Queens. 331 00:16:29,789 --> 00:16:30,957 We're about to head out for a chat. 332 00:16:31,057 --> 00:16:34,626 Okay, so ask her if she remembers Claire 333 00:16:34,627 --> 00:16:36,629 getting into an argument at the convent 334 00:16:36,729 --> 00:16:38,363 a couple of days before the murder. 335 00:16:38,364 --> 00:16:39,657 Okay, will do. 336 00:16:39,790 --> 00:16:41,466 We also found another nun who was living 337 00:16:41,467 --> 00:16:44,804 at the convent at the same time as Claire Sobol. 338 00:16:44,937 --> 00:16:47,832 Sister Petronilla, AKA Sandra Garza. 339 00:16:47,965 --> 00:16:49,499 She gave you guys a statement back then. 340 00:16:49,500 --> 00:16:50,509 Yeah, I remember her. 341 00:16:50,510 --> 00:16:52,444 She was very close with Claire. 342 00:16:52,445 --> 00:16:53,912 Okay, well, she left the convent 343 00:16:53,913 --> 00:16:55,347 not long after the murder. 344 00:16:55,348 --> 00:16:56,781 She's living as a civilian now. 345 00:16:56,782 --> 00:17:00,669 You feel like taking a detour to Pulaski, New York? 346 00:17:00,670 --> 00:17:03,188 That is in the middle of nowhere. 347 00:17:03,189 --> 00:17:04,774 But you're closer. 348 00:17:09,762 --> 00:17:11,464 {\an8}Mother Eusebia? 349 00:17:11,564 --> 00:17:13,064 {\an8}And you are? 350 00:17:13,065 --> 00:17:16,201 I'm Captain Curry, and this is Detective Griffin from SVU. 351 00:17:16,202 --> 00:17:18,037 Can we speak with you? 352 00:17:18,137 --> 00:17:19,872 Give us a minute, Sister Grace. 353 00:17:23,534 --> 00:17:25,777 So we wanted to talk to you about Claire Sobol, 354 00:17:25,778 --> 00:17:28,046 Sister Benedicta. - What about her? 355 00:17:28,047 --> 00:17:30,048 Well, some questions have come up about the man 356 00:17:30,049 --> 00:17:31,383 convicted of her murder. 357 00:17:31,384 --> 00:17:32,709 Questions? 358 00:17:32,710 --> 00:17:34,369 Like maybe the wrong man is in prison. 359 00:17:35,821 --> 00:17:37,882 That sounds like an astounding level 360 00:17:38,015 --> 00:17:41,360 of incompetence on the part of the NYPD. 361 00:17:43,187 --> 00:17:44,329 Did you know her well? 362 00:17:44,330 --> 00:17:46,164 Of course I did. 363 00:17:46,165 --> 00:17:48,934 Do you have any opinion about who could have done it? 364 00:17:48,935 --> 00:17:51,052 I spoke to the detectives at the time 365 00:17:51,053 --> 00:17:52,504 and told them everything I knew. 366 00:17:52,505 --> 00:17:56,232 I did not see who killed her and I didn't hear anything 367 00:17:56,233 --> 00:17:57,734 on the night it happened. 368 00:17:57,735 --> 00:17:59,744 Well, we heard that she may have had an argument 369 00:17:59,745 --> 00:18:01,047 a few nights before the murder. 370 00:18:01,147 --> 00:18:03,214 Do you know anything about that? 371 00:18:03,215 --> 00:18:05,550 - Who told you that? - Charles Greene. 372 00:18:05,551 --> 00:18:08,520 The man in prison for her murder, and you believe him? 373 00:18:08,521 --> 00:18:11,173 I don't know. That's why we're asking you. 374 00:18:14,594 --> 00:18:16,262 Look at that. You won. 375 00:18:17,530 --> 00:18:21,249 Sister Benedicta never truly accepted her vows. 376 00:18:21,250 --> 00:18:23,869 As such, she invited strife into her life 377 00:18:23,970 --> 00:18:26,096 and into our community. 378 00:18:26,097 --> 00:18:29,758 Her death destroyed everything we'd worked so hard to build. 379 00:18:29,759 --> 00:18:31,409 And you think it was her fault? 380 00:18:31,410 --> 00:18:34,447 I think God's will cannot be undone. 381 00:18:43,948 --> 00:18:47,727 Sister Petronella. Olivia Benson, Elliot Stabler. 382 00:18:47,827 --> 00:18:49,628 I don't know if you remember us. 383 00:18:49,762 --> 00:18:52,122 We're with the NYPD. 384 00:18:52,123 --> 00:18:54,567 You're far from home. 385 00:18:54,667 --> 00:18:56,292 That's true. 386 00:18:56,293 --> 00:18:58,596 Nice up here. Nice place. Quiet. 387 00:18:59,772 --> 00:19:01,406 What's this about? 388 00:19:01,407 --> 00:19:04,468 Sister Benedicta, we're taking another look 389 00:19:04,568 --> 00:19:06,211 at her murder case. 390 00:19:08,447 --> 00:19:09,974 I go by Sandra now. 391 00:19:10,107 --> 00:19:11,150 Come on in. 392 00:19:14,053 --> 00:19:17,622 I joined the Solemnity of Mary as an escape 393 00:19:17,623 --> 00:19:19,658 as much as anything. 394 00:19:19,759 --> 00:19:22,477 I mean, my father was, um... 395 00:19:22,478 --> 00:19:23,895 he was a drunk. 396 00:19:23,896 --> 00:19:25,797 He was violent. 397 00:19:25,798 --> 00:19:29,960 So when I turned 18, I just ran to the convent. 398 00:19:31,662 --> 00:19:33,105 Claire, though... 399 00:19:33,205 --> 00:19:35,999 I mean, she was a true believer. 400 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:38,811 Just a kind, gentle soul. 401 00:19:38,911 --> 00:19:41,846 She loved kids. 402 00:19:41,847 --> 00:19:43,681 She loved being a nun. 403 00:19:43,682 --> 00:19:46,519 She had this unshakeable faith. 404 00:19:46,619 --> 00:19:50,014 And she could tell a dirty joke better than anybody I ever met. 405 00:19:50,147 --> 00:19:55,360 I remember how well liked she was by everyone. 406 00:19:55,361 --> 00:19:56,686 I could reminisce about her all day, 407 00:19:56,687 --> 00:19:58,855 but I don't think that's why you're here. 408 00:20:01,525 --> 00:20:04,803 In the course of the investigation 409 00:20:04,804 --> 00:20:06,539 of, um, 410 00:20:06,639 --> 00:20:10,367 Claire's murder... 411 00:20:10,468 --> 00:20:12,044 mistakes were made. 412 00:20:15,706 --> 00:20:17,716 I made mistakes. 413 00:20:18,542 --> 00:20:19,885 Um, 414 00:20:20,019 --> 00:20:23,888 so we're here... we're here, because we need your help. 415 00:20:23,889 --> 00:20:28,827 So, Sandra, we... we heard that Claire 416 00:20:28,828 --> 00:20:31,696 had a loud argument with somebody 417 00:20:31,697 --> 00:20:33,665 a couple of nights before her murder. 418 00:20:33,666 --> 00:20:38,536 And so we're hoping that you could tell us who 419 00:20:38,537 --> 00:20:40,698 Claire had that argument with. 420 00:20:44,235 --> 00:20:47,378 We never spoke of it, but I would guess 421 00:20:47,379 --> 00:20:50,014 that she was arguing 422 00:20:50,015 --> 00:20:54,252 with Mother Eusebia about... 423 00:20:54,253 --> 00:20:56,088 about Father Anthony. 424 00:20:58,858 --> 00:21:00,526 Who... who was he? 425 00:21:00,626 --> 00:21:01,919 That's Anthony Lazzaro. 426 00:21:02,052 --> 00:21:05,029 He was the convent chaplain who said our masses, 427 00:21:05,030 --> 00:21:06,766 listened to our confessions. 428 00:21:15,007 --> 00:21:18,426 He said it was penance, you know, that we were to... 429 00:21:20,546 --> 00:21:25,584 Purify our souls by purifying our body, and... 430 00:21:27,753 --> 00:21:31,990 So sometimes, it was performing oral sex on him 431 00:21:31,991 --> 00:21:33,425 or receiving it. 432 00:21:33,526 --> 00:21:36,953 And it was... on occasion, it was intercourse. 433 00:21:36,954 --> 00:21:41,432 And it was always presented as holy, you know, as sanctioned 434 00:21:41,433 --> 00:21:45,803 and whatever depraved thing he could come up with just... 435 00:21:45,804 --> 00:21:48,631 so you have to understand that many of us, 436 00:21:48,632 --> 00:21:51,301 we were completely naive. 437 00:21:51,302 --> 00:21:56,648 We came to this life right from our family's home, 438 00:21:56,649 --> 00:21:58,308 right to the convent. 439 00:21:58,309 --> 00:22:01,953 And we didn't have any sexual experience. 440 00:22:01,954 --> 00:22:03,805 We didn't have any experience at all. 441 00:22:03,806 --> 00:22:05,149 He knew that. 442 00:22:05,249 --> 00:22:07,293 He knew that and he used that. 443 00:22:09,995 --> 00:22:12,096 How many others do you think? 444 00:22:12,097 --> 00:22:14,133 Dozen 445 00:22:14,266 --> 00:22:15,434 that I know about. 446 00:22:15,534 --> 00:22:17,168 And Claire. 447 00:22:17,169 --> 00:22:18,987 No. 448 00:22:18,988 --> 00:22:22,165 He knew better than to try that with her. 449 00:22:22,166 --> 00:22:23,675 But she knew what was happening, 450 00:22:23,676 --> 00:22:25,177 and she told the mother. 451 00:22:25,277 --> 00:22:27,145 The Mother Superior knew? 452 00:22:27,146 --> 00:22:29,315 Yeah, yeah, yeah. She knew. 453 00:22:29,415 --> 00:22:32,484 And she had us all sit down and write letters to her, 454 00:22:32,618 --> 00:22:35,521 describing exactly what he'd done. 455 00:22:35,621 --> 00:22:36,689 Well, then what happened? 456 00:22:38,657 --> 00:22:39,650 Nothing? 457 00:22:43,128 --> 00:22:45,797 Sandra, 458 00:22:45,798 --> 00:22:49,684 do you think that this Father Lazzaro 459 00:22:49,685 --> 00:22:51,337 was the one who murdered Claire? 460 00:22:51,437 --> 00:22:54,138 I don't know. 461 00:22:54,139 --> 00:22:58,701 But the thought of Charles in prison 462 00:22:58,702 --> 00:23:00,211 all these years, 463 00:23:00,212 --> 00:23:01,537 it never left my mind. 464 00:23:01,538 --> 00:23:03,181 But I didn't have any evidence, you know. 465 00:23:03,182 --> 00:23:04,682 I didn't see anything at all. 466 00:23:04,683 --> 00:23:06,050 So I couldn't help. 467 00:23:06,051 --> 00:23:08,686 That's not your job. That's our responsibility. 468 00:23:08,687 --> 00:23:12,724 And you have been so incredibly brave 469 00:23:12,725 --> 00:23:15,326 and generous 470 00:23:15,327 --> 00:23:16,996 with telling us your story. 471 00:23:17,096 --> 00:23:18,188 So thank you. 472 00:23:20,057 --> 00:23:21,199 It's too late. 473 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,551 It's actually not. 474 00:23:23,552 --> 00:23:26,896 We're gonna get justice for you 475 00:23:26,897 --> 00:23:29,374 and for Claire 476 00:23:29,375 --> 00:23:30,876 and for all of them. 477 00:23:43,355 --> 00:23:46,157 - Hey, Rollins. - I think I found Lazzaro. 478 00:23:46,158 --> 00:23:47,525 Where? 479 00:23:47,526 --> 00:23:50,763 He's a priest at Holy Shepherd up in the Bronx. 480 00:23:50,863 --> 00:23:53,164 We can make it there right after evening mass, 481 00:23:53,165 --> 00:23:54,591 unless you want us to wait for you. 482 00:23:54,725 --> 00:23:58,569 No, this guy has been getting away with it for 28 years. 483 00:23:58,570 --> 00:24:01,097 We're not giving him another second. 484 00:24:01,098 --> 00:24:03,242 Look, we're gonna find some place up here to stay, 485 00:24:03,342 --> 00:24:05,411 and we'll head back first thing in the morning. 486 00:24:05,544 --> 00:24:07,446 Thanks, Amanda. - Yeah. 487 00:24:10,549 --> 00:24:12,418 {\an8}Evening, Father. 488 00:24:12,518 --> 00:24:13,935 Hello. 489 00:24:13,936 --> 00:24:15,278 Can I help you? 490 00:24:15,279 --> 00:24:18,790 Yeah, we're looking for Father Anthony Lazzaro. 491 00:24:18,791 --> 00:24:20,117 What's this all about? 492 00:24:20,250 --> 00:24:22,227 It's really important we speak to him. 493 00:24:22,328 --> 00:24:24,395 What's your name? - Father Dave. 494 00:24:24,396 --> 00:24:27,098 And I'm sorry to say, Father Anthony isn't available. 495 00:24:27,099 --> 00:24:28,266 He's on sabbatical. 496 00:24:28,267 --> 00:24:29,534 Man. 497 00:24:29,535 --> 00:24:30,769 I love a good sabbatical. - Me too. 498 00:24:30,903 --> 00:24:32,070 Feels like it'd be so enriching. 499 00:24:32,071 --> 00:24:33,237 Sure. 500 00:24:33,238 --> 00:24:34,789 Personal growth, quiet contemplation. 501 00:24:34,790 --> 00:24:36,976 Good for him. - Yeah. 502 00:24:37,109 --> 00:24:40,211 You just tell us where he is, we'll be out of your hair. 503 00:24:40,212 --> 00:24:42,113 I'm not able to do that. 504 00:24:42,114 --> 00:24:43,139 I'm sorry. 505 00:24:43,140 --> 00:24:45,141 Father Dave. 506 00:24:45,142 --> 00:24:47,819 I don't think you wanna be seen as hindering or interfering 507 00:24:47,820 --> 00:24:49,321 with a police matter. 508 00:24:49,455 --> 00:24:50,788 I can't help you. 509 00:24:50,789 --> 00:24:54,158 Any further questions can be directed to the archdiocese. 510 00:24:54,159 --> 00:24:55,494 Good night. 511 00:25:06,321 --> 00:25:08,507 Honestly, I never wanna hear any snoring complaints 512 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:10,666 from you ever again. 513 00:25:10,667 --> 00:25:12,845 Lies. 514 00:25:12,945 --> 00:25:14,846 What time is it? 515 00:25:14,847 --> 00:25:16,481 Just after midnight. 516 00:25:16,482 --> 00:25:19,818 I was... I was just reading... 517 00:25:19,918 --> 00:25:22,420 Through a statement. - Which one? 518 00:25:22,421 --> 00:25:24,288 Sister Augusta. 519 00:25:24,289 --> 00:25:26,524 And she said more than once 520 00:25:26,525 --> 00:25:28,694 that we should talk to Father Anthony. 521 00:25:33,766 --> 00:25:36,017 She was trying to tell us, 522 00:25:36,018 --> 00:25:37,327 and we missed it. 523 00:25:40,739 --> 00:25:41,864 We missed it. 524 00:25:41,865 --> 00:25:43,508 I don't remember talking to him. 525 00:25:43,509 --> 00:25:45,544 Do you? - No, he didn't live there. 526 00:25:46,870 --> 00:25:48,797 Well, we should have. 527 00:25:50,482 --> 00:25:53,618 He just would have lied and I would have believed him. 528 00:25:53,619 --> 00:25:55,653 Why? 529 00:25:57,322 --> 00:25:59,540 'Cause he was a damn priest, 530 00:25:59,541 --> 00:26:00,826 and I'm Catholic. 531 00:26:00,926 --> 00:26:03,729 And my faith... 532 00:26:03,829 --> 00:26:06,364 I just think it blinded me. 533 00:26:08,050 --> 00:26:10,468 I made a mistake. 534 00:26:10,469 --> 00:26:13,871 My mistake... 535 00:26:13,872 --> 00:26:17,208 is that I let you shut me out. 536 00:26:17,209 --> 00:26:19,343 And I have to learn from that. 537 00:26:19,344 --> 00:26:21,680 What do you mean, shut you out? 538 00:26:21,780 --> 00:26:25,883 You interrogated Greene alone without me. 539 00:26:25,884 --> 00:26:27,252 So what? 540 00:26:27,386 --> 00:26:29,088 - We were partners, Elliot. - Yeah. 541 00:26:29,188 --> 00:26:30,855 Doesn't mean we're joined at the hip. 542 00:26:30,856 --> 00:26:32,749 We do things separately sometimes. 543 00:26:32,883 --> 00:26:34,926 Elliot, you didn't want me in the interrogation 544 00:26:34,927 --> 00:26:37,228 because I told you that I didn't think 545 00:26:37,229 --> 00:26:38,755 that Greene was right for it. 546 00:26:38,889 --> 00:26:40,032 I don't remember that. 547 00:26:40,132 --> 00:26:41,600 Well, I did. 548 00:26:41,733 --> 00:26:43,234 And I have to live with that. 549 00:26:43,235 --> 00:26:44,869 Your mistake is that you were right. 550 00:26:44,870 --> 00:26:46,871 That's the burden you bear. 551 00:26:46,872 --> 00:26:48,764 No, I have to live with the fact 552 00:26:48,765 --> 00:26:51,209 that I didn't do the right thing 553 00:26:51,210 --> 00:26:53,094 because I was new, 554 00:26:53,095 --> 00:26:55,438 that I didn't follow my instinct 555 00:26:55,439 --> 00:26:57,282 because I thought you knew better, 556 00:26:57,382 --> 00:26:58,608 which is my fault. 557 00:26:58,609 --> 00:27:00,277 So is this you telling me that you've been holding 558 00:27:00,410 --> 00:27:01,753 on to this for 30 years? 559 00:27:01,887 --> 00:27:04,957 No, I've been letting it go for 30 years. 560 00:27:05,757 --> 00:27:08,626 And, you know, maybe that is the biggest 561 00:27:08,627 --> 00:27:11,396 difference between us. 562 00:27:11,497 --> 00:27:13,632 What's that? 563 00:27:13,765 --> 00:27:15,466 Maybe you're right, Elliot. 564 00:27:15,467 --> 00:27:17,803 Maybe we're not friends. 565 00:27:20,405 --> 00:27:22,608 Maybe we can't be. 566 00:27:34,219 --> 00:27:36,021 Sonny, welcome. 567 00:27:36,121 --> 00:27:37,856 Please, have a seat. 568 00:27:37,956 --> 00:27:39,991 Gonna have to make this brief. 569 00:27:39,992 --> 00:27:42,126 I'm sitting down with the bishop. 570 00:27:42,127 --> 00:27:44,295 But I always make time to meet 571 00:27:44,296 --> 00:27:45,696 with the district attorney's office. 572 00:27:45,697 --> 00:27:47,765 Well, thank you, Peter. We won't be long. 573 00:27:47,766 --> 00:27:49,817 Now, who do we have here? 574 00:27:49,818 --> 00:27:51,802 - Aidan Hawkins, sir. - He's my associate. 575 00:27:51,803 --> 00:27:53,539 I'm training him up. - Good for you. 576 00:27:53,639 --> 00:27:55,440 You're in good hands. - Yes, indeed. 577 00:27:55,574 --> 00:27:59,402 My assistant said you were asking about a convent. 578 00:27:59,403 --> 00:28:00,645 I am. 579 00:28:00,646 --> 00:28:03,239 And really, what we want to understand is process. 580 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,408 Yeah. Hold on one second. 581 00:28:05,409 --> 00:28:08,452 Katie, what time's the car coming? 582 00:28:08,453 --> 00:28:10,088 It's seven minutes out. 583 00:28:10,188 --> 00:28:13,082 What do you wanna know in seven minutes? 584 00:28:13,083 --> 00:28:15,459 In the late '90s, how would the archdiocese 585 00:28:15,460 --> 00:28:18,829 handle complaints made against priests that came from, 586 00:28:18,830 --> 00:28:20,324 say, nuns? 587 00:28:21,258 --> 00:28:25,970 Well, the church would definitely do an investigation. 588 00:28:25,971 --> 00:28:28,506 Okay, what would that investigation entail? 589 00:28:28,507 --> 00:28:29,874 Depends. 590 00:28:29,875 --> 00:28:32,577 It could be a committee or a tribunal. 591 00:28:32,578 --> 00:28:34,679 Who's on the committee? 592 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:36,347 Again, it depends. 593 00:28:36,348 --> 00:28:38,649 - Priests? - Yes. 594 00:28:38,650 --> 00:28:40,385 What about legal counsel? 595 00:28:40,485 --> 00:28:42,720 Counsel would be provided either by me 596 00:28:42,721 --> 00:28:44,038 or another partner here. 597 00:28:44,039 --> 00:28:45,539 And are victims allowed to attend 598 00:28:45,540 --> 00:28:47,259 or observe this committee? 599 00:28:47,359 --> 00:28:51,379 Gentlemen, the church takes any allegations 600 00:28:51,380 --> 00:28:53,264 and accusations seriously. 601 00:28:53,265 --> 00:28:54,457 You know that. 602 00:28:54,458 --> 00:28:56,400 And their process is legal. 603 00:28:56,401 --> 00:28:57,802 I know that. 604 00:28:57,803 --> 00:28:59,470 Well, I would expect nothing less from you, Peter. 605 00:28:59,471 --> 00:29:01,906 But if there were investigations, 606 00:29:01,907 --> 00:29:05,843 I imagine there'd be files on those investigations? 607 00:29:05,844 --> 00:29:07,412 - Yes. - Okay. 608 00:29:07,512 --> 00:29:09,847 So can I see some of those? 609 00:29:11,516 --> 00:29:13,685 Specifically all personnel files 610 00:29:13,819 --> 00:29:15,312 for Father Anthony Lazzaro 611 00:29:15,412 --> 00:29:17,421 for the Solemnity of Mary convent, 612 00:29:17,422 --> 00:29:19,491 all investigative files related to Father Anthony 613 00:29:19,591 --> 00:29:21,993 in the convent, any and all complaints 614 00:29:21,994 --> 00:29:24,695 made about Father Anthony, all administrative records 615 00:29:24,696 --> 00:29:27,832 for the convent from 1995 through its closing. 616 00:29:27,833 --> 00:29:30,234 And I'm forgetting something. What am I forgetting? 617 00:29:30,235 --> 00:29:31,927 And anything disclosing. 618 00:29:31,928 --> 00:29:33,437 Father Anthony's current location. 619 00:29:33,438 --> 00:29:36,340 Fellas, that's all protected. 620 00:29:36,341 --> 00:29:38,876 Those are internal church files. 621 00:29:38,877 --> 00:29:41,313 I can't just hand them over. 622 00:29:41,413 --> 00:29:42,880 You'd have to get a subpoena. 623 00:29:42,881 --> 00:29:46,851 Well, I just got one of those from a grand jury this morning. 624 00:29:51,114 --> 00:29:52,824 - What the hell is this? - Carisi? 625 00:29:52,924 --> 00:29:54,392 Hey, welcome back. 626 00:29:54,393 --> 00:29:56,027 - This is from the archdiocese? - Yeah. 627 00:29:56,028 --> 00:29:57,362 And there's about 30 more coming. 628 00:29:57,462 --> 00:29:58,596 Looks like they just took everything, 629 00:29:58,597 --> 00:29:59,955 threw it up in the air, and put it all in boxes. 630 00:29:59,956 --> 00:30:01,791 It's an old tactic. They wanna bury us in paper. 631 00:30:01,792 --> 00:30:03,359 Yeah, they turned over what we asked for. 632 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:04,602 We'll just never be able to find it. 633 00:30:04,603 --> 00:30:05,936 This will take a month to go through. 634 00:30:05,937 --> 00:30:07,506 Well, we're gonna go through every single page 635 00:30:07,606 --> 00:30:09,957 'cause I'm not leaving till we get what we need. 636 00:30:09,958 --> 00:30:11,309 I'll be in the conference room. 637 00:30:15,714 --> 00:30:18,466 {\an8}Mother Eusebia. 638 00:30:18,467 --> 00:30:20,317 Hello. 639 00:30:20,318 --> 00:30:21,737 Remember us? 640 00:30:23,488 --> 00:30:25,047 What is it you want? 641 00:30:25,048 --> 00:30:28,125 Well, we have some reading 642 00:30:28,126 --> 00:30:29,328 we'd like you to do, 643 00:30:29,428 --> 00:30:31,246 letters from your spiritual sisters. 644 00:30:33,315 --> 00:30:34,331 No? 645 00:30:34,332 --> 00:30:36,392 That's okay. 646 00:30:36,393 --> 00:30:37,669 How about I read it to you? 647 00:30:41,006 --> 00:30:43,608 "I am begging your forgiveness, Mother," 648 00:30:43,709 --> 00:30:46,235 "and the forgiveness of God for the sin" 649 00:30:46,236 --> 00:30:48,245 "that has been laid upon me." 650 00:30:49,681 --> 00:30:54,752 "Father Anthony has forced me to perform unspeakable acts. 651 00:30:54,753 --> 00:30:58,757 "And I can no longer live with the secret. 652 00:30:58,857 --> 00:31:03,519 "I am in despair and praying for the Lord to take my life, 653 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,031 which I know is a sin." 654 00:31:07,999 --> 00:31:11,093 It goes on to say that Father Anthony 655 00:31:11,094 --> 00:31:13,705 raped her on Easter morning. 656 00:31:15,374 --> 00:31:18,409 And there are about a dozen more here 657 00:31:18,410 --> 00:31:21,479 from women who 658 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,883 just wanted to dedicate their lives to God. 659 00:31:26,009 --> 00:31:27,885 And you did nothing. 660 00:31:27,886 --> 00:31:30,946 Just let it happen. You protected him. 661 00:31:30,947 --> 00:31:33,624 I sent the letters to the bishop. 662 00:31:33,625 --> 00:31:35,327 That's why you're in possession of them now. 663 00:31:35,427 --> 00:31:37,528 Wait, wait. No, no, no. 664 00:31:37,529 --> 00:31:39,530 No, no, we're not doing that. 665 00:31:39,531 --> 00:31:42,366 You passed the buck. 666 00:31:42,367 --> 00:31:45,136 You forgot about it, and then nothing happened. 667 00:31:45,137 --> 00:31:48,539 So let's not paint ourselves as a saint here. 668 00:31:48,540 --> 00:31:50,074 What do you want? 669 00:31:50,075 --> 00:31:51,509 See you die in prison. 670 00:31:51,510 --> 00:31:53,803 But short of that, 671 00:31:53,804 --> 00:31:56,714 tell us what you know about Father Anthony. 672 00:31:56,715 --> 00:31:59,283 Testify against him. 673 00:31:59,284 --> 00:32:01,753 - You've arrested him? - We don't know where he is. 674 00:32:03,980 --> 00:32:05,090 I do. 675 00:32:08,593 --> 00:32:13,397 There's a so-called "treatment" center 676 00:32:13,398 --> 00:32:15,867 for priests dealing with sexual sins. 677 00:32:17,469 --> 00:32:19,437 Write down everything you know. 678 00:32:21,306 --> 00:32:23,525 There's something else. 679 00:32:26,745 --> 00:32:31,383 In 1999, a novice named Christina joined our community. 680 00:32:31,516 --> 00:32:35,085 She hadn't yet chosen her religious name. 681 00:32:35,086 --> 00:32:37,521 That winter, she went missing. 682 00:32:37,522 --> 00:32:40,016 The story was she left the religious life 683 00:32:40,116 --> 00:32:41,710 and ran off with a man. 684 00:32:43,361 --> 00:32:45,255 That is not what happened. 685 00:32:47,766 --> 00:32:53,238 I know where she is. 686 00:33:08,478 --> 00:33:10,020 Is it a woman? 687 00:33:10,021 --> 00:33:11,113 Absolutely. 688 00:33:11,114 --> 00:33:12,824 And she was pregnant. 689 00:33:34,179 --> 00:33:37,481 You can't be here. This is a private facility. 690 00:33:37,482 --> 00:33:39,183 Well, more like a camp for perverts, 691 00:33:39,184 --> 00:33:40,643 and we're looking for one in particular. 692 00:33:40,644 --> 00:33:42,811 I'm not allowed to disclose the identity of residents... 693 00:33:42,812 --> 00:33:44,922 - Okay, arrest him. - What? 694 00:33:44,923 --> 00:33:46,490 Put him in your car and bring him back to the city. 695 00:33:46,491 --> 00:33:47,683 Next stop for you is Rikers. 696 00:33:47,684 --> 00:33:49,461 Wait, wait. 697 00:33:49,561 --> 00:33:52,730 Who are you looking for? - Anthony Lazzaro. 698 00:33:52,731 --> 00:33:53,865 He's out on the lake. 699 00:33:53,965 --> 00:33:55,867 Well, tell him to row his ass back to shore. 700 00:34:01,131 --> 00:34:03,959 Anthony! 701 00:34:13,251 --> 00:34:15,303 Your camp looked fun. 702 00:34:16,788 --> 00:34:18,557 It wasn't camp. 703 00:34:18,657 --> 00:34:20,207 It was... it was treatment. 704 00:34:20,208 --> 00:34:22,143 What are you being treated for? 705 00:34:23,561 --> 00:34:26,121 I've committed the sin of lust. 706 00:34:27,299 --> 00:34:29,458 And what cures that, pickleball? 707 00:34:32,704 --> 00:34:35,490 My sins are between me and the Lord. 708 00:34:37,334 --> 00:34:39,777 What about the sin of rape? 709 00:34:39,778 --> 00:34:42,805 I haven't raped anyone. 710 00:34:42,806 --> 00:34:44,833 My sins of the flesh were consensual. 711 00:34:48,186 --> 00:34:49,879 What about this? 712 00:34:53,850 --> 00:34:56,026 I didn't do that. 713 00:34:56,027 --> 00:34:59,063 The man is in prison who did this. 714 00:34:59,064 --> 00:35:01,391 Deny, deny, deny. 715 00:35:02,392 --> 00:35:03,801 It's a good strategy. 716 00:35:03,802 --> 00:35:05,269 I mean, it almost worked. 717 00:35:05,270 --> 00:35:08,273 I mean, we could have been out of luck. 718 00:35:08,373 --> 00:35:10,257 Until we found Christine. 719 00:35:12,769 --> 00:35:14,571 And the baby. 720 00:35:19,217 --> 00:35:22,287 Science is truly amazing. 721 00:35:22,387 --> 00:35:27,216 They were able to pull the DNA from the fetus in about... 722 00:35:27,217 --> 00:35:28,726 I think they said four hours? 723 00:35:28,727 --> 00:35:30,120 Tops. 724 00:35:30,220 --> 00:35:34,123 We'll be able to find out who the father is. 725 00:35:34,124 --> 00:35:37,968 So, Father, if you have anything to say, 726 00:35:37,969 --> 00:35:39,528 now would be the time to do it. 727 00:35:50,473 --> 00:35:55,052 God forgives all sins if you're truly repentant. 728 00:35:55,053 --> 00:35:58,222 Whatever you do to me here 729 00:35:58,223 --> 00:36:00,158 is meaningless. 730 00:36:00,258 --> 00:36:02,384 My reward will be in heaven. 731 00:36:02,385 --> 00:36:06,397 Well, until then, Father, 732 00:36:06,398 --> 00:36:08,432 your life's gonna be hell. 733 00:36:20,170 --> 00:36:21,178 Bring it here. 734 00:36:21,179 --> 00:36:24,181 Guys, Lazzaro's being booked, 735 00:36:24,182 --> 00:36:26,141 so go home. 736 00:36:26,142 --> 00:36:28,177 We are gonna finish this later. 737 00:36:28,178 --> 00:36:30,522 Well, we found more victims who are still alive. 738 00:36:30,622 --> 00:36:32,182 Two of them are in Florida. We can reach out. 739 00:36:32,282 --> 00:36:34,358 I'd like to go after the higher ups, 740 00:36:34,359 --> 00:36:36,027 okay, everyone who helped cover this up. 741 00:36:36,127 --> 00:36:37,362 That's the goal. 742 00:36:37,462 --> 00:36:39,763 Carisi, what can we do to make sure 743 00:36:39,764 --> 00:36:43,333 that Charles Greene is released as soon as possible? 744 00:36:43,334 --> 00:36:45,335 I already have a call in to the AG's office, 745 00:36:45,336 --> 00:36:46,837 so once this is all processed, 746 00:36:46,838 --> 00:36:48,772 Greene should be released immediately. 747 00:36:48,773 --> 00:36:50,499 That's great. 748 00:36:50,500 --> 00:36:51,501 That's great. Thank you. 749 00:36:53,044 --> 00:36:55,346 Well, I am going home. 750 00:36:55,447 --> 00:36:58,541 I'm gonna take my son to dinner and I'm gonna sleep in my bed. 751 00:36:58,641 --> 00:37:00,218 So get out of here. 752 00:37:07,926 --> 00:37:09,686 Okay. 753 00:37:10,829 --> 00:37:12,896 Kind of makes me miss the place. 754 00:37:12,897 --> 00:37:15,099 - I'm not hiring. - No, yeah. 755 00:37:15,100 --> 00:37:16,558 No, you got a great crew. 756 00:37:16,559 --> 00:37:19,195 I wouldn't wanna blow up the vibe. 757 00:37:22,807 --> 00:37:25,568 They want me to come back. 758 00:37:25,668 --> 00:37:27,078 To OCCB? 759 00:37:27,178 --> 00:37:28,413 Yeah. 760 00:37:29,848 --> 00:37:31,240 Are... 761 00:37:31,241 --> 00:37:33,233 are you gonna? 762 00:37:33,234 --> 00:37:34,669 No. 763 00:37:36,980 --> 00:37:38,514 I'm gonna drive to Arizona. 764 00:37:38,515 --> 00:37:40,082 What's in Arizona? 765 00:37:40,083 --> 00:37:41,408 Maureen and the kids. 766 00:37:41,409 --> 00:37:43,060 They moved there. 767 00:37:43,061 --> 00:37:44,987 Might be a nice place to spend some time in the winter, 768 00:37:44,988 --> 00:37:46,688 you know. 769 00:37:46,689 --> 00:37:49,017 The winter? What do you mean? Wow. 770 00:37:49,868 --> 00:37:51,568 What? 771 00:37:51,569 --> 00:37:53,762 Are you retiring? 772 00:37:53,763 --> 00:37:55,073 No, I don't think so. 773 00:37:55,173 --> 00:37:56,573 No, I just don't know what I wanna do yet. 774 00:37:56,574 --> 00:37:59,435 But... I'm not done. 775 00:37:59,536 --> 00:38:02,280 Good, 'cause I'm not either. 776 00:38:04,541 --> 00:38:07,051 Well, I know that. 777 00:38:07,152 --> 00:38:10,020 So another road trip. 778 00:38:10,021 --> 00:38:11,581 You have to see the Grand Canyon. 779 00:38:12,824 --> 00:38:14,792 - Is that out there? - No, I'm serious. 780 00:38:14,893 --> 00:38:17,378 It's supposed to be amazing. 781 00:38:18,555 --> 00:38:19,888 Why don't you come with me? 782 00:38:19,889 --> 00:38:21,123 You're funny. 783 00:38:21,124 --> 00:38:22,383 I'm serious. 784 00:38:24,669 --> 00:38:26,937 You said you got personal time. Use it. 785 00:38:38,750 --> 00:38:39,817 What? 786 00:38:39,818 --> 00:38:42,986 I-I'm not coming with you to Arizona. 787 00:38:42,987 --> 00:38:45,614 - Why? - Because I have Noah. 788 00:38:45,615 --> 00:38:46,908 Have him come with us. 789 00:39:12,642 --> 00:39:14,352 Send me a postcard. 790 00:39:23,845 --> 00:39:25,113 Goodbye, Cap.