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I'm sorry. Nina, I'm sorry.
I gave him my money, Ma!

2
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I really wanted it
to be right this time.

3
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Please just get it over with.
Say I'm fired.

4
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You are going to just have to wait
because what you've done,

5
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you don't get to just resign.

6
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I can pick up the girls later.
No, it's fine.

7
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It's not like I'm not grateful,

8
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I just don't want them
getting too attached.

9
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Oh, yeah. Of course.

10
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Shit.

11
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Leni, no-one can say
which way life will fall,

12
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but there are some decisions
that you can control.

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The end of your life doesn't mean
the end of your marriage.

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I don't want to miss life.

15
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I want to marry you, Ronnie.
Come here, Ruth.

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How do we do this?

17
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I don't know.

18
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I've missed him so much, Ma.

19
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It's never too late.

20
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Don't forget about
New York.

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I love you, Hannah Defoe.
The ball's in your court.

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Do you love her?

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Yes.

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Over the last few months
here at Love Cast,

25
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I've had the privilege to dig deep

26
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and delve into that
age-old question.

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Can there ever be the good divorce?

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A laying down of arms

29
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and sanguine recognition that
not all divorce is failure.

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Simply some marriages are finite.

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And why do we place so much weight
on the idea that things must last.

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Surely what constitutes
a successful relationship

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is knowing when it's over.

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Being brave enough to call time.

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The desire of two people who have
spent their lives together -

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good lives together,

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who are not willing to throw it
all away for a few months of pain,

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isn't that what also
constitutes a good divorce?

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One where memories
are left to exist untainted.

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Where children
are guided through the storm.

41
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Where two people can say,
"We did it well.

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"We took care of one another,"

43
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even if the marriage is no more.

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I tell my clients, be brave.

45
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Don't be afraid.

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Who knows what you might find
on the other side?

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You know I'm OK, right? You know
you don't need to stay with me.

48
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Where else am I going to go?
Uh, home?

49
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I'm going to a meeting.
Good.

50
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Thank you, for, um, pushing me on.

51
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Making me get back out there.

52
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Ah, I know what you're doing.

53
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You need to get back out there too.
You need to go home.

54
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Maybe meet the family, Rose.
What have you got to lose?

55
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The worst has already happened.

56
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Remember, James's heart
is still beating.

57
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Your eleven o'clock's here.

58
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Thanks.

59
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Goldie? Back for another round?

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Boxing promoter.

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Half her age.

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Wow.
I know.

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Well, look at the diamonds,
is all I'm saying.

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That woman is doing something
very right.

65
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You're not doing so bad yourself.

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There she is.

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So?

68
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Wow.
Uh-huh, 18-carat, white gold.

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The rock is...

70
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Congratulations.
Not married yet.

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Shall we?
Oh, yeah, I am ready to sign.

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OK, so, I have tried to protect you
as best I can in this prenup,

73
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but Mr Mukherjee is undoubtedly...

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Loaded.

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Yes.

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And on his.
Third marriage.

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Surprising for someone so.
Short? Yeah.

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Young. He's coming up to...?

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Twenty-nine.

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Mm-hm.

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Hmm.

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And we have put in
an infidelity penalty clause.

83
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Though, it should be noted
that these are, they're unorthodox,

84
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and they're rarely upheld in court.

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Bitten once, not twice.

86
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I don't need his money.
And he doesn't need mine.

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How's Davey?

88
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Heart attack. Poor guy.

89
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Wow.

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Go on, Say it.

91
00:06:06,304 --> 00:06:09,020
He's too young, you're too old,
it'll never last.

92
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Yeah, you won't be
the first or last.

93
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But... he makes me feel fantastic.

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You, however...

95
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Never got over him
getting caught with his pants down?

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It's a little bit more
complicated than that.

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Give it time.

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Goldie...

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No, a very good family lawyer
told me that once.

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Mm-hm.

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I was broken after Davey.
Humiliated.

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YOU helped me fight
to get my life back.

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You said to me, "Everything
you once thought you were,

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"everything you thought you knew,
that's all in the past."

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And you were right.

106
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So now it is time to
get back in the ring

107
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and give life a few more rounds.

108
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Change is coming,
don't be afraid of the change.

109
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Come to my bridal shower.

110
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Uh...

111
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You need to
let your hair down for a night.

112
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Hannah. Have you seen Hannah?

113
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Nathan what...?
What are you doing here?

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Hannah.
What's wrong?

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I think I'm having a heart attack.

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I've got this... I've got this...

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He's fine.
I've...

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Nathan, slow down.
I've got a pain right here.

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Do you want me to call an ambulance?
He's fine. Take a breath.

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It's like a...

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...a belt across my chest.

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I've... No it's more...
I should stand up, really.

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Breathe.

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You're being ridiculous.
It's not a heart attack.

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John Candy, Luther Vandross,
Chairman Mao.

126
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I'm in a pretty non-exclusive club.

127
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Don't be so dramatic.
You're hyperventilating.

128
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It's a panic attack.
Feels like a bloody heart attack.

129
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Just sit down.
OK.

130
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Take some deep breaths.
OK.

131
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Try and relax.

132
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I'm really busy.

133
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Can I get back to my work now?

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I talked to Kate.

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Right. And?

136
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Didn't go very well.

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She does know that there's
nothing going on between you and me?

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She does know that
we did not sleep together?

139
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Yeah, not exactly.

140
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She fled on her bike before I could
finish my train of thought.

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Oh, God, where are you
going with this?

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Er, I may, I may have said that
my feelings for you are... complex.

143
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Because they are complex, for you.

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My... I, well... I have complex
feelings for you. Don't you?

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No.

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Yes, yeah.

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But like I have complex feelings
for many things, like veganism

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and disproportionate amount of time

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that Tilly's spending
on social media,

150
00:09:00,344 --> 00:09:02,300
but that, that doesn't mean...

151
00:09:02,384 --> 00:09:04,304
I may have also said that...

152
00:09:06,024 --> 00:09:08,864
...I still...love you.

153
00:09:10,024 --> 00:09:15,624
Not still. Not still.
I always... will love you.

154
00:09:23,384 --> 00:09:25,144
You still love me?

155
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What am I meant to
do with that, Nathan?

156
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You're having a baby with Kate.

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If I was to say from today...

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...you will never see her again.

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How does that make you feel?

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I don't get your question.

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If this had never happened,
if you'd never met Kate,

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if she'd never come into your life -
one word.

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Sad.

164
00:10:09,384 --> 00:10:10,824
Hm.

165
00:10:12,664 --> 00:10:15,064
Doesn't that
answer your question, Nathan?

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00:10:18,584 --> 00:10:20,340
Hannah.
I have to go.

167
00:10:20,424 --> 00:10:23,260
No, we have to talk.
Isn't that what lawyers are for?

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00:10:23,344 --> 00:10:25,260
Incidentally you might
want to talk to yours,

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she's counter-fired with
a pretty blistering attack.

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00:10:28,984 --> 00:10:30,304
Hannah, wait.

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I don't want to do this.

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I don't want to get divorced.

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What if we're making a mistake?

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00:10:41,024 --> 00:10:42,344
Hannah?

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You're frightened.

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00:10:47,344 --> 00:10:49,100
You're just frightened.

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I get that.

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00:10:51,264 --> 00:10:54,460
But don't confuse that
with believing that you and I...

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- I'm not.
- Nathan.

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00:11:03,104 --> 00:11:05,304
We can't fix this, Nathan.

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Thank you.

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00:11:49,224 --> 00:11:52,824
Hi, there, I've got Mr Stern
in reception for you.

183
00:11:54,184 --> 00:11:56,620
Tell them that
I'm not in for the rest of the day.

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No more calls, alright?

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00:11:58,504 --> 00:12:01,660
Apologies.
The press have been going crazy.

186
00:12:01,744 --> 00:12:04,780
But, if you can't beat them,
join them, as they say.

187
00:12:04,864 --> 00:12:06,540
Oh, yes, yes, your son.

188
00:12:06,624 --> 00:12:09,660
Yes, I've just got off
the phone with Long Lost Family.

189
00:12:09,744 --> 00:12:11,380
Could you take that to my office?

190
00:12:11,464 --> 00:12:13,300
Don't you just adore Davina McCall?

191
00:12:13,384 --> 00:12:15,380
But everything has turned out
rather well, overall.

192
00:12:15,464 --> 00:12:18,740
Although I won't let him
call me mother. Or grandmother.

193
00:12:18,824 --> 00:12:20,180
And rather irritatingly,

194
00:12:20,264 --> 00:12:23,144
his children find it highly amusing
to call me Melania.

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00:12:24,424 --> 00:12:28,700
One son, two grandsons -
instant family.

196
00:12:28,784 --> 00:12:32,580
Slightly claustrophobia-inducing
but it could be worse.

197
00:12:32,664 --> 00:12:36,740
And, to be honest, as a unit
they are rather easy on the eye,

198
00:12:36,824 --> 00:12:39,324
bar the wife who could afford
to lose a few pounds.

199
00:12:40,544 --> 00:12:44,424
But I have to say it has been
really marvellous for my profile.

200
00:12:45,464 --> 00:12:49,300
Right, now,
I think we go back in, and hard.

201
00:12:49,384 --> 00:12:51,740
While they do
their little financial tap dance

202
00:12:51,824 --> 00:12:55,140
we fire back on the value of
her share in the partnership.

203
00:12:55,224 --> 00:12:57,900
I'd like to see you get
at least a quarter.

204
00:12:57,984 --> 00:12:59,260
No.

205
00:12:59,344 --> 00:13:01,660
No sorry, no, no, no, you're right.
Half.

206
00:13:01,744 --> 00:13:03,020
Yours was a partnership that

207
00:13:03,104 --> 00:13:04,740
enabled her to have
such a successful career.

208
00:13:04,824 --> 00:13:07,744
I mean. No.

209
00:13:09,824 --> 00:13:11,904
You are a terrible woman, Melanie.

210
00:13:14,704 --> 00:13:16,704
But what else is your lawyer for?

211
00:13:18,184 --> 00:13:20,060
Terrible is my raison d'etre.

212
00:13:20,144 --> 00:13:22,500
I don't want a quarter
of Hannah's shares.

213
00:13:22,584 --> 00:13:26,664
I don't want to be talking to you
in this god-awful office.

214
00:13:27,704 --> 00:13:31,820
You're a terrible,
terrible person, Melanie.

215
00:13:31,904 --> 00:13:33,940
You've never asked me what I want.

216
00:13:34,024 --> 00:13:36,380
You just tell people
what they're going to get.

217
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At whatever cost.

218
00:13:37,544 --> 00:13:39,140
Let's be frank, sweetheart.

219
00:13:39,224 --> 00:13:41,060
If you wanted it any other way...

220
00:13:41,144 --> 00:13:43,304
I would have gone to Hannah.

221
00:13:47,544 --> 00:13:48,984
Touche.

222
00:14:17,264 --> 00:14:19,540
Hi, you're through to the transplant
family liaison office.

223
00:14:19,624 --> 00:14:21,620
Alison speaking. How may I help you?

224
00:14:21,704 --> 00:14:25,100
Hi, hi. It's Rose.

225
00:14:25,184 --> 00:14:26,111
Cutler.

226
00:14:26,196 --> 00:14:27,780
Hi, good to hear from you.

227
00:14:27,864 --> 00:14:29,860
Hi.
How are you?

228
00:14:29,944 --> 00:14:31,682
Yeah, yeah I'm good.

229
00:14:31,767 --> 00:14:33,007
Um...

230
00:14:34,464 --> 00:14:37,241
So, yeah.

231
00:14:37,330 --> 00:14:41,825
I just wanted to know whether...
well, if the family,

232
00:14:42,144 --> 00:14:43,780
if they might be free tomorrow.

233
00:14:43,864 --> 00:14:45,820
The family are very eager
to meet you.

234
00:14:45,904 --> 00:14:48,740
- Mm.
- I'm so glad you've reached out.

235
00:14:48,824 --> 00:14:51,860
Let me liaise with them
and get back to you. Hm?

236
00:14:51,944 --> 00:14:53,540
OK.

237
00:14:53,624 --> 00:14:55,700
Yep.

238
00:14:55,784 --> 00:14:59,940
It's the same old, same old. Get up.
Say this time will be different.

239
00:15:00,024 --> 00:15:02,460
It's not.

240
00:15:02,544 --> 00:15:06,980
Every time, every time -
same excuse.

241
00:15:07,064 --> 00:15:08,944
Same self-deception.

242
00:15:20,824 --> 00:15:22,464
Oh, it is you.

243
00:15:23,824 --> 00:15:26,340
I didn't realise you...

244
00:15:26,424 --> 00:15:27,860
See you.
Bye.

245
00:15:27,944 --> 00:15:29,900
I actually prefer
the Chelsea meetings.

246
00:15:29,984 --> 00:15:31,420
There's a lot more
interesting people

247
00:15:31,504 --> 00:15:33,580
and the occasional blue blood.

248
00:15:33,664 --> 00:15:36,364
But I come here when I don't want to
see anyone I know.

249
00:15:37,904 --> 00:15:40,264
So, I hear you were shafted.

250
00:15:41,344 --> 00:15:42,940
Go on.

251
00:15:43,024 --> 00:15:45,820
What? Oh, rip you apart?

252
00:15:45,904 --> 00:15:48,460
No you have to do that yourself,
darling.

253
00:15:48,544 --> 00:15:49,860
Step four.

254
00:15:49,944 --> 00:15:53,904
Take a searching and fearless
moral inventory of ourselves.

255
00:15:55,064 --> 00:15:57,660
We're dry drunks, sweetheart.

256
00:15:57,744 --> 00:15:59,900
We still do damage, often to others,

257
00:15:59,984 --> 00:16:02,704
but most of all to ourselves.

258
00:16:07,624 --> 00:16:11,340
I shagged my best friend's boyfriend
when I was 14.

259
00:16:11,424 --> 00:16:14,700
Then at 22,
husband of a woman I worked for.

260
00:16:14,784 --> 00:16:17,060
Can't remember his name.

261
00:16:17,144 --> 00:16:22,660
Er, at 25, didn't know the wife,
didn't care anyway.

262
00:16:22,744 --> 00:16:25,060
I lost count after that.

263
00:16:25,144 --> 00:16:28,420
Felt nothing. Always felt nothing.

264
00:16:28,504 --> 00:16:29,744
Feel nothing.

265
00:16:30,824 --> 00:16:34,504
I've stolen. From shops.
From friends.

266
00:16:35,664 --> 00:16:38,140
- From my family.
- Mm-hm.

267
00:16:38,224 --> 00:16:40,624
So, I guess you could call
recent events karma.

268
00:16:42,304 --> 00:16:44,260
Haven't had a drink in ten months?
That's great.

269
00:16:44,344 --> 00:16:46,260
Yeah. Weirdly,
that's been the easiest part.

270
00:16:46,344 --> 00:16:48,140
- Mm-hm.
- Dry drunk?

271
00:16:48,224 --> 00:16:50,180
That sounds about right.

272
00:16:50,264 --> 00:16:53,220
Stone cold sober,
I can still do all of the above.

273
00:16:53,304 --> 00:16:56,180
I don't like myself.

274
00:16:56,264 --> 00:16:58,020
But worse...

275
00:16:58,104 --> 00:17:01,980
I've got this tiny baby,

276
00:17:02,064 --> 00:17:05,384
tiny little thing staring back at me
with such love.

277
00:17:06,664 --> 00:17:09,180
Because she doesn't know
how truly horrible her mother is.

278
00:17:09,264 --> 00:17:10,904
Not yet.

279
00:17:12,144 --> 00:17:14,660
I can't bear for her ever to see it.

280
00:17:14,744 --> 00:17:16,844
Then you'd better
put in the work, darling.

281
00:17:17,944 --> 00:17:21,180
One day at a time, sweetheart.
One day at a time.

282
00:17:21,264 --> 00:17:22,740
Go home.

283
00:17:22,824 --> 00:17:25,580
Hug that little girl.

284
00:17:25,664 --> 00:17:27,104
And do better.

285
00:17:28,264 --> 00:17:31,060
That's what I tell myself anyway.

286
00:17:31,144 --> 00:17:33,744
Bye, bye.
Bye.

287
00:17:54,384 --> 00:17:56,540
Hannah, I fired Melanie.

288
00:17:56,624 --> 00:17:58,460
I don't want to do it like this.

289
00:17:58,544 --> 00:18:03,340
It's a complete balls up,
with you, Kate...

290
00:18:03,424 --> 00:18:05,464
What do I do about Kate?

291
00:18:06,904 --> 00:18:08,904
Argh. Anyway, bye.

292
00:18:31,864 --> 00:18:35,384
Hi.
Can I come in?

293
00:18:47,304 --> 00:18:48,984
Lot of plants.

294
00:18:53,584 --> 00:18:56,460
When we moved into our first flat,

295
00:18:56,544 --> 00:18:59,544
Nathan's mother bought us
a yucca plant.

296
00:19:00,544 --> 00:19:02,620
Died within a month.

297
00:19:02,704 --> 00:19:06,180
And for years Nathan
thought it was because of him.

298
00:19:06,264 --> 00:19:09,260
I didn't try and dispel the myth.

299
00:19:09,344 --> 00:19:11,064
But I killed it.

300
00:19:12,424 --> 00:19:15,100
Who knew yuccas
don't like coffee grounds?

301
00:19:15,184 --> 00:19:18,180
Why are you here?
He watered it.

302
00:19:18,264 --> 00:19:21,340
Not much, just enough.

303
00:19:21,424 --> 00:19:23,100
He does that.

304
00:19:23,184 --> 00:19:26,624
Blanket fell off the kids at night.
He'd be the one have to check.

305
00:19:31,624 --> 00:19:35,624
He's quietly amazing, Nathan.

306
00:19:37,504 --> 00:19:40,220
Hard to give up.
Hannah...

307
00:19:40,304 --> 00:19:41,744
I finished your book.

308
00:19:43,904 --> 00:19:46,380
Didn't love it but it.

309
00:19:46,464 --> 00:19:47,944
But it packs a punch.

310
00:19:49,424 --> 00:19:52,260
What it doesn't say, though,
is we can coat it in words,

311
00:19:52,344 --> 00:19:54,980
we can find a 'language'
and a 'narrative'

312
00:19:55,064 --> 00:19:58,740
to house the inevitable fallout
of divorce.

313
00:19:58,824 --> 00:20:01,180
But to really...

314
00:20:01,264 --> 00:20:06,060
...capture its quiet brutality,

315
00:20:06,144 --> 00:20:09,264
that's something that
can't be written.

316
00:20:10,304 --> 00:20:13,384
That's something you can only feel,
you have to feel. You...

317
00:20:16,384 --> 00:20:18,824
Otherwise, how else
do you leave a marriage?

318
00:20:22,424 --> 00:20:26,264
You know anything worth its salt
has roots that have grown deep.

319
00:20:27,584 --> 00:20:29,700
They have to be.

320
00:20:29,784 --> 00:20:32,980
To tether you through the elements
that inevitably hit along the way.

321
00:20:33,064 --> 00:20:34,944
But if it's died...

322
00:20:37,664 --> 00:20:39,024
...it's died.

323
00:20:43,184 --> 00:20:48,944
Still doesn't mean it doesn't take
a tug to lift it out the ground.

324
00:20:51,184 --> 00:20:53,860
But that tug you're feeling,

325
00:20:53,944 --> 00:20:56,580
that's not because
something is alive.

326
00:20:56,664 --> 00:20:58,460
It's because it's died

327
00:20:58,544 --> 00:21:03,024
and it needs to come out
to let something new grow.

328
00:21:04,224 --> 00:21:06,344
Some other life in.

329
00:21:10,664 --> 00:21:14,744
So, what I am trying to say is...

330
00:21:18,984 --> 00:21:21,584
You can do worse than Nathan.

331
00:21:22,904 --> 00:21:25,304
You might find you can't do better.

332
00:21:26,664 --> 00:21:28,984
Why are you telling me this?

333
00:21:31,784 --> 00:21:33,704
Because I love him.

334
00:21:35,664 --> 00:21:37,060
And he loves you,

335
00:21:37,144 --> 00:21:41,344
and so by default I care about
what happens to you and him.

336
00:21:44,784 --> 00:21:46,384
And my children.

337
00:21:48,133 --> 00:21:52,333
Who will welcome this new person,
once they get their heads around it.

338
00:21:54,784 --> 00:21:59,224
And I want to be there
to support them, you, this.

339
00:22:03,384 --> 00:22:05,104
You don't even like me.

340
00:22:06,424 --> 00:22:09,380
I don't have to like you.

341
00:22:09,464 --> 00:22:11,224
I have to live with you.

342
00:22:12,864 --> 00:22:15,024
And you have to live with me.

343
00:22:18,224 --> 00:22:19,664
That's the deal.

344
00:22:20,824 --> 00:22:22,980
That's the best I can offer.

345
00:22:23,064 --> 00:22:25,184
Quite some terms.

346
00:22:27,064 --> 00:22:28,580
I'm a lawyer.

347
00:22:28,664 --> 00:22:30,344
What do you expect?

348
00:22:38,744 --> 00:22:42,064
It's not neat, Nathan and I.

349
00:22:43,664 --> 00:22:45,464
But we're broken.

350
00:22:46,664 --> 00:22:48,740
And we can't stay together, broken,

351
00:22:48,824 --> 00:22:50,774
just because
we're frightened of change.

352
00:22:52,704 --> 00:22:54,304
You're the change.

353
00:22:56,304 --> 00:22:57,784
You're the change.

354
00:23:07,024 --> 00:23:08,740
You didn't kill it.

355
00:23:08,824 --> 00:23:10,820
The yucca.

356
00:23:10,904 --> 00:23:13,780
Coffee grounds, loads of nitrogen.

357
00:23:13,864 --> 00:23:15,660
Yuccas like nitrogen.

358
00:23:15,744 --> 00:23:17,184
Huh.

359
00:23:18,344 --> 00:23:20,424
So, just keep blaming him, then?

360
00:23:22,264 --> 00:23:24,544
Probably for the best.

361
00:24:09,304 --> 00:24:12,254
I'm not going to talk to you.
I'm not going to do that shit.

362
00:24:13,904 --> 00:24:18,584
OK. 'Cause I'm so... so bloody angry
with you James, like, REALLY angry.

363
00:24:20,544 --> 00:24:23,544
How could you be so stupid?
And then...

364
00:24:29,984 --> 00:24:31,860
And you never heard my message.

365
00:24:31,944 --> 00:24:34,500
You never heard me
saying I was sorry

366
00:24:34,584 --> 00:24:38,304
and of course I wanted that life
with you...

367
00:24:40,264 --> 00:24:41,984
...so much.

368
00:24:53,344 --> 00:24:55,304
But you're not here.

369
00:24:56,904 --> 00:24:59,464
You can't hear this, so...

370
00:25:01,224 --> 00:25:04,260
Where are you?
Because I... I can't feel you anymore.

371
00:25:04,344 --> 00:25:08,824
I used to feel you, you know,
like, when you walked in the door.

372
00:25:10,344 --> 00:25:12,824
And now you're dead, and...

373
00:25:13,904 --> 00:25:18,460
I don't believe in heaven
and, there's no ghosts.

374
00:25:18,544 --> 00:25:21,824
So if you could just come back?

375
00:25:23,224 --> 00:25:25,984
Please. Just a second.

376
00:25:28,544 --> 00:25:33,104
Because I need to know
that I wasn't wrong.

377
00:25:36,864 --> 00:25:39,904
And that you did exist.

378
00:25:54,904 --> 00:25:56,984
We did exist.

379
00:26:03,624 --> 00:26:06,580
Rose. Rose!

380
00:26:06,664 --> 00:26:08,780
You coming home?

381
00:26:08,864 --> 00:26:14,060
No, I, Um...
I was just passing by, so...

382
00:26:14,144 --> 00:26:16,020
Please!

383
00:26:16,104 --> 00:26:18,420
No, I...
Please, please!

384
00:26:18,504 --> 00:26:20,660
Please.

385
00:26:20,744 --> 00:26:23,140
Um.
Please, please.

386
00:26:23,224 --> 00:26:24,780
No, it's... I should go.

387
00:26:24,864 --> 00:26:26,700
I know I'm a terrible cook,

388
00:26:26,784 --> 00:26:29,444
but there's always something
worth defrosting in the freezer.

389
00:26:29,528 --> 00:26:30,580
Uh...

390
00:26:30,664 --> 00:26:32,580
Please say yes!

391
00:26:32,664 --> 00:26:34,304
Come on. Eat with us.

392
00:26:35,824 --> 00:26:37,660
OK.

393
00:26:37,744 --> 00:26:39,704
Come on girls.
Oh, watch yourself.

394
00:26:44,224 --> 00:26:47,620
Hello, scamp. I like your dress.

395
00:26:57,864 --> 00:26:59,704
Leni...

396
00:27:01,664 --> 00:27:03,660
Uh, the boys aren't back until...

397
00:27:03,744 --> 00:27:06,984
Actually, it's you
I wanted to talk to.

398
00:27:20,824 --> 00:27:24,620
I've travel led the world
with you, Felix.

399
00:27:24,704 --> 00:27:31,180
Dived in Thailand,
climbed volcanoes in Costa Rica.

400
00:27:31,264 --> 00:27:37,824
Had some of my best adventures,
lived my best life, with you.

401
00:27:41,024 --> 00:27:43,860
But this is one journey
you can't come with me on.

402
00:27:43,944 --> 00:27:45,460
No.

403
00:27:45,544 --> 00:27:47,984
I know what death looks like.

404
00:27:49,664 --> 00:27:51,980
Been preparing for a lifetime.

405
00:27:52,064 --> 00:27:54,104
And I'll be ready.

406
00:27:55,224 --> 00:27:57,024
When it comes.

407
00:27:58,704 --> 00:28:02,064
Sweet man.
I won't let you do it.

408
00:28:03,704 --> 00:28:06,340
I will care for you.

409
00:28:06,424 --> 00:28:09,024
I will be by your side.

410
00:28:10,784 --> 00:28:13,824
I will not let this
happen to you alone.

411
00:28:18,344 --> 00:28:19,824
I can't.

412
00:28:24,024 --> 00:28:26,980
So, I reject your attempts
to push me away,

413
00:28:27,064 --> 00:28:31,460
I reject your attempts to end us,

414
00:28:31,544 --> 00:28:35,100
I reject your desire to leave me,

415
00:28:35,184 --> 00:28:37,584
I reject divorce.

416
00:28:38,584 --> 00:28:43,344
I do not, I will not, leave you.

417
00:28:45,224 --> 00:28:51,904
Everyone has to leave someone
one day.

418
00:28:55,624 --> 00:28:57,224
Not yet.

419
00:28:59,064 --> 00:29:00,664
Not yet.

420
00:29:49,424 --> 00:29:51,500
Damn.

421
00:29:51,584 --> 00:29:54,264
Like I said, terrible spy.

422
00:29:55,264 --> 00:29:58,380
You're the one creeping out.
Thanks for today.

423
00:29:58,464 --> 00:30:00,140
Oh, that's alright.

424
00:30:00,224 --> 00:30:03,504
Who knew smiley faces would go
so well with Jeanette's ragu?

425
00:30:06,704 --> 00:30:09,100
Um, sorry about yesterday.

426
00:30:09,184 --> 00:30:12,580
About picking up the girls.
Ah, yeah.

427
00:30:12,664 --> 00:30:15,024
Quite the brush off.

428
00:30:17,304 --> 00:30:19,740
But, no, I, I am sorry,

429
00:30:19,824 --> 00:30:21,620
because that's the last thing
I would want to do,

430
00:30:21,704 --> 00:30:23,300
brush you off, brush you in anyway.

431
00:30:23,384 --> 00:30:25,060
I, we, very much want...
Where am I going here?

432
00:30:25,144 --> 00:30:27,700
Stop.
Just stop.

433
00:30:27,784 --> 00:30:29,544
Stop.

434
00:30:30,824 --> 00:30:32,580
I'm going to go.

435
00:30:32,664 --> 00:30:34,860
Rose.
Yeah?

436
00:30:34,944 --> 00:30:36,744
Maybe...

437
00:30:39,144 --> 00:30:41,940
You have to let go
of the life planned

438
00:30:42,024 --> 00:30:45,060
if you want
the life waiting for you.

439
00:30:45,144 --> 00:30:49,100
Ahh, no, no, you got me there.

440
00:30:49,184 --> 00:30:52,340
Is that Tears for Fears
or Kurt Cobain?

441
00:30:52,424 --> 00:30:54,860
Busted
I knew it.

442
00:30:54,944 --> 00:30:57,660
It was stuck on the wall
of the dentist's yesterday.

443
00:30:57,744 --> 00:31:00,784
You are wasted on the church.

444
00:31:14,624 --> 00:31:18,824
If you can love that strongly,
you'll love again.

445
00:31:28,584 --> 00:31:32,504
You should,
try these moves on Jeanette.

446
00:31:33,584 --> 00:31:35,024
Might get lucky.

447
00:31:38,024 --> 00:31:39,544
One day.

448
00:33:54,704 --> 00:33:59,540
Felix, thanks for coming in today.

449
00:33:59,624 --> 00:34:02,860
My understanding is that you and Leni
have talked now.

450
00:34:02,944 --> 00:34:04,260
Yes.

451
00:34:04,344 --> 00:34:06,820
We appreciate how difficult this is,

452
00:34:06,904 --> 00:34:11,700
but, on our advice, Leni would
like to make an advance decision

453
00:34:11,784 --> 00:34:13,380
to refuse treatment,

454
00:34:13,464 --> 00:34:16,900
under Section 24 of the MCA 2005,

455
00:34:16,984 --> 00:34:20,420
otherwise known as a Living Will.

456
00:34:20,504 --> 00:34:24,260
My colleague is
a private client solicitor

457
00:34:24,344 --> 00:34:26,780
and she's going to
talk you through it.

458
00:34:26,864 --> 00:34:29,940
But, loosely speaking,

459
00:34:30,024 --> 00:34:34,420
it's an advance directive,
in light of Leni's illness,

460
00:34:34,504 --> 00:34:38,344
that will ensure her wishes
are carried out.

461
00:34:41,064 --> 00:34:45,020
It is also my understanding that,
after discussion,

462
00:34:45,104 --> 00:34:49,780
alongside that,
you are also willing to look at

463
00:34:49,864 --> 00:34:53,500
possible continuing
and palliative care,

464
00:34:53,584 --> 00:34:55,740
with the full support
of your family, Leni.

465
00:34:55,824 --> 00:34:56,820
Yes.

466
00:34:56,904 --> 00:35:01,940
But that if or when
this becomes too difficult,

467
00:35:02,024 --> 00:35:04,664
you will proceed
with your original plan.

468
00:35:06,184 --> 00:35:07,500
Yes.

469
00:35:07,584 --> 00:35:09,140
As man and wife.

470
00:35:09,224 --> 00:35:10,464
Absolutely.

471
00:35:13,104 --> 00:35:14,744
As man and wife.

472
00:35:16,424 --> 00:35:18,660
And beyond that, I'm right to presume

473
00:35:18,744 --> 00:35:21,500
that you will no longer
require our services?

474
00:35:21,584 --> 00:35:24,144
Yes.
Yes.

475
00:35:27,624 --> 00:35:29,780
Then with your lawyer in attendance,

476
00:35:29,864 --> 00:35:33,580
Angela will now go through
what this means for both of you

477
00:35:33,664 --> 00:35:34,944
in the future.

478
00:35:36,304 --> 00:35:39,180
With your consent, we should talk
Felix through this document

479
00:35:39,264 --> 00:35:41,380
and your instructions.

480
00:35:41,464 --> 00:35:43,380
See you Sunday.
Yeah.

481
00:35:43,464 --> 00:35:45,340
The boys are really looking
forward to seeing you.

482
00:35:45,424 --> 00:35:47,824
Yes. Absolutely. Yes.

483
00:35:52,984 --> 00:35:54,700
Thank you.

484
00:35:54,784 --> 00:35:57,660
It was great to see you.
See you soon.

485
00:35:57,744 --> 00:36:00,584
You've got this.
You too.

486
00:36:03,024 --> 00:36:09,184
Hannah, so I was wondering if you
would like to grab dinner sometime?

487
00:36:11,264 --> 00:36:14,064
I'm not looking to be poached.

488
00:36:15,224 --> 00:36:19,064
That's... that's not what I'm asking.

489
00:36:21,584 --> 00:36:22,580
Oh.

490
00:36:22,664 --> 00:36:24,784
Just, Let me know
if the time's ever right.

491
00:36:30,744 --> 00:36:32,300
Mm-hm!

492
00:36:32,384 --> 00:36:33,864
See you at four.

493
00:36:35,424 --> 00:36:37,500
Aren't Melanie and Nathan coming in?

494
00:36:37,584 --> 00:36:40,424
Oh, actually, um...

495
00:36:41,544 --> 00:36:42,780
About that...

496
00:36:58,344 --> 00:37:01,384
Hi.
Hi.

497
00:37:08,104 --> 00:37:10,780
OK, so we get 18 more months here.

498
00:37:10,864 --> 00:37:14,860
And then I sell,
and we divide the sale proceeds.

499
00:37:14,944 --> 00:37:16,024
Yep.

500
00:37:17,944 --> 00:37:21,540
I get first pick on paintings,
you get books.

501
00:37:21,624 --> 00:37:23,304
Right, agreed.

502
00:37:24,984 --> 00:37:28,100
Now health cover, you obviously
have another life to think of,

503
00:37:28,184 --> 00:37:31,060
so I'm happy to transfer the policy

504
00:37:31,144 --> 00:37:35,220
so that it covers both Kate
and the new baby.

505
00:37:35,304 --> 00:37:37,184
Right.

506
00:37:40,744 --> 00:37:42,900
You've got to start
thinking about these things.

507
00:37:42,984 --> 00:37:44,184
Yeah.

508
00:37:46,344 --> 00:37:49,060
Now, holidays.
Do you know I'm happy to split these.

509
00:37:49,144 --> 00:37:50,100
Yeah.

510
00:37:50,184 --> 00:37:53,260
Though if I could take
Christmas Day this year.

511
00:37:53,344 --> 00:37:57,504
Yeah, like I said,
box set and Five Guys.

512
00:38:00,784 --> 00:38:03,180
OK. Weekends.
You get every other weekend.

513
00:38:03,264 --> 00:38:05,500
They spend the weekdays here.

514
00:38:05,584 --> 00:38:08,660
Bar Wednesday.
You get them Wednesday.

515
00:38:08,744 --> 00:38:11,624
Either at yours or here.

516
00:38:12,704 --> 00:38:17,740
And finally... wills.

517
00:38:17,824 --> 00:38:20,944
We'll need to get them redrawn.
I'm not going anywhere yet.

518
00:38:23,024 --> 00:38:25,740
You can't say that.

519
00:38:25,824 --> 00:38:27,664
I'm not going anywhere, Hannah.

520
00:38:29,824 --> 00:38:31,464
Yes, you are.

521
00:38:40,264 --> 00:38:42,784
Every night when I go to bed...

522
00:38:47,544 --> 00:38:49,144
...you're not in it.

523
00:38:50,344 --> 00:38:53,660
Every wall, every photo,

524
00:38:53,744 --> 00:38:57,380
every inch of my life,
I've shared with you, Nathan,

525
00:38:57,464 --> 00:38:59,664
so, for you not to be there...

526
00:39:04,944 --> 00:39:08,384
Um, it's going to take, time.

527
00:39:10,304 --> 00:39:12,144
But, slowly, I'll do it.

528
00:39:13,384 --> 00:39:16,024
And we'll fill the space
with other things.

529
00:39:17,904 --> 00:39:19,104
Other people.

530
00:39:25,544 --> 00:39:28,264
Because it's time, Nathan.

531
00:39:33,224 --> 00:39:34,624
It's time.

532
00:39:42,144 --> 00:39:44,424
I love you, Ms Defoe.

533
00:39:47,784 --> 00:39:49,744
Always, Mr Stern.

534
00:39:54,104 --> 00:39:56,420
We're home.

535
00:39:56,504 --> 00:39:58,700
Oh, Vinnie. Not in the house.

536
00:39:58,784 --> 00:40:01,184
Sorry.
You done?

537
00:40:03,744 --> 00:40:04,864
Hey.

538
00:40:06,544 --> 00:40:08,020
Ahh, thank you.

539
00:40:08,104 --> 00:40:10,384
Vinnie, come here.

540
00:40:15,024 --> 00:40:16,744
Gael, come on.

541
00:40:22,784 --> 00:40:25,460
I'm going to go outside.
I blame you for this.

542
00:40:25,544 --> 00:40:27,780
What, he made me?
Is that a long board?

543
00:40:27,864 --> 00:40:29,860
Yeah.
Right, come on, then, show me.

544
00:40:29,944 --> 00:40:31,394
You sure you want to do this?

545
00:40:32,464 --> 00:40:33,984
Alright?

546
00:40:37,104 --> 00:40:38,864
Alright.

547
00:40:39,864 --> 00:40:43,384
I, um... I'm not going to to do law.

548
00:40:45,384 --> 00:40:47,140
OK.

549
00:40:47,224 --> 00:40:49,460
I'm going to do Spanish.

550
00:40:49,544 --> 00:40:53,020
- In Argentina.
- Mm-hm.

551
00:40:53,104 --> 00:40:55,060
With Gael.

552
00:40:55,144 --> 00:40:57,980
Yep, I'm going to back with Gael.

553
00:40:58,064 --> 00:41:01,460
But just as we are.

554
00:41:01,544 --> 00:41:04,180
Just as it is.

555
00:41:04,264 --> 00:41:05,820
Until we're older.

556
00:41:05,904 --> 00:41:07,780
What, like, really old
like me and your dad?

557
00:41:07,864 --> 00:41:10,700
No, not that old.

558
00:41:10,784 --> 00:41:11,984
But not now.

559
00:41:13,104 --> 00:41:16,024
Just as we are.
You know, like, no wedding.

560
00:41:17,344 --> 00:41:19,540
Yep.

561
00:41:19,624 --> 00:41:22,620
- That sounds like a plan.
- Mm.

562
00:41:22,704 --> 00:41:24,860
I was actually thinking
that maybe...

563
00:41:24,944 --> 00:41:26,940
Yeah, I could tell Dad?
Yeah.

564
00:41:27,024 --> 00:41:28,500
No.

565
00:41:28,584 --> 00:41:30,744
I'm leaving that
in your capable hands.

566
00:41:37,384 --> 00:41:38,780
Am I too early?

567
00:41:38,864 --> 00:41:40,860
No, perfect time.

568
00:41:40,944 --> 00:41:43,144
I can't cook
and rumour has it you can.

569
00:41:45,664 --> 00:41:47,380
Plant.
Ah.

570
00:41:47,464 --> 00:41:51,980
Highly unlikely to survive, but...

571
00:41:52,064 --> 00:41:54,300
Thank you.

572
00:41:54,384 --> 00:41:57,104
They're outside.
Thank you.

573
00:42:06,664 --> 00:42:08,900
See, I can't...
I mean, I can do that.

574
00:42:08,984 --> 00:42:11,500
-This? Definitely.
-Come on, Dad.

575
00:42:11,584 --> 00:42:13,380
Alright, don't let me go
this time, OK?

576
00:42:13,464 --> 00:42:14,740
That's fine.
You're letting me go.

577
00:42:14,824 --> 00:42:16,300
No, no, no.
Yes, it's moving.

578
00:42:16,384 --> 00:42:18,380
That is...
It was good.

579
00:42:18,464 --> 00:42:19,940
Much harder than it...

580
00:42:20,024 --> 00:42:22,580
Hi.
Hey, what...?

581
00:42:22,664 --> 00:42:24,184
Hannah invited me.

582
00:42:27,704 --> 00:42:29,344
Hi.

583
00:43:16,824 --> 00:43:18,784
Zander...
Nothing to say.

584
00:43:20,224 --> 00:43:22,384
Just keep doing
what you're doing, Nina.

585
00:43:25,344 --> 00:43:27,464
You've got a lot of money
to make up.

586
00:43:32,064 --> 00:43:34,104
Oh, God.

587
00:43:49,144 --> 00:43:50,984
Rose.
Hi.

588
00:43:53,144 --> 00:43:54,540
Come in. Come in.

589
00:43:54,624 --> 00:43:57,024
Um, Rav's just out the back.

590
00:44:03,664 --> 00:44:06,144
Rav. Um, this is Rose.

591
00:44:11,504 --> 00:44:12,580
Thank you.

592
00:44:12,664 --> 00:44:18,264
And those rascals over there,
that's Jey and there's Shriyan.

593
00:44:20,304 --> 00:44:22,264
Cute rascals.

594
00:44:26,584 --> 00:44:28,460
Um... Just over...

595
00:44:28,544 --> 00:44:30,220
Yeah, just there.

596
00:44:30,304 --> 00:44:32,024
Sorry it's a bit cold.

597
00:44:37,824 --> 00:44:39,504
Can you hear?

598
00:44:43,784 --> 00:44:46,184
Still ticking.

599
00:46:17,464 --> 00:46:18,940
Hey.

600
00:46:19,024 --> 00:46:21,464
I've thought about it, Christie.

601
00:46:23,704 --> 00:46:27,340
We're walking along the High Line
and you're holding my hand,

602
00:46:27,424 --> 00:46:32,184
and we're stopping for bagels and...

603
00:46:34,904 --> 00:46:36,744
It's not just the two of us.

604
00:46:38,024 --> 00:46:40,420
Vinnie's there.

605
00:46:40,504 --> 00:46:42,780
And Liv and Tilly.

606
00:46:42,864 --> 00:46:47,664
And my family are there.

607
00:46:49,064 --> 00:46:51,424
I love you Christie, I do.

608
00:46:52,664 --> 00:46:55,344
But I want life, not a fantasy.

609
00:46:57,304 --> 00:46:59,704
It'll never be just the two of us.

610
00:47:01,424 --> 00:47:04,864
And my life's here in London,
with my family.

611
00:47:08,264 --> 00:47:10,504
So, if you want that too...

612
00:47:14,064 --> 00:47:16,824
Don't say yet. Just think about it.

613
00:48:14,864 --> 00:48:16,300
Well, ladies and gentlemen,

614
00:48:16,384 --> 00:48:19,300
thank you very much for coming
on this very special occasion

615
00:48:19,384 --> 00:48:21,180
to share it with us.

616
00:48:21,264 --> 00:48:25,380
Ruth Alice Defoe...

617
00:48:25,464 --> 00:48:27,660
Forever Defoe.

618
00:48:30,784 --> 00:48:32,664
Little bit to the left.

619
00:48:35,224 --> 00:48:39,060
I've tried, over the years,
to be on hand,

620
00:48:39,144 --> 00:48:45,500
waiting, hoping and finally -
finally! -

621
00:48:45,584 --> 00:48:48,984
I think it's fair to say
that I have won.

622
00:48:49,984 --> 00:48:51,664
Finally.

623
00:48:53,104 --> 00:48:55,624
But I want to talk about legacy.

624
00:48:57,024 --> 00:49:01,220
The myriad of memories and tiny
moments that make up a life.

625
00:49:01,304 --> 00:49:05,700
I want to say take care of them,

626
00:49:05,784 --> 00:49:07,864
hold them gently in your hands.

627
00:49:09,104 --> 00:49:13,904
And remind yourself that
nothing is promised.

628
00:49:15,704 --> 00:49:20,380
That this little life of ours
is less about what we've earned

629
00:49:20,464 --> 00:49:22,300
and what we've gathered,

630
00:49:22,384 --> 00:49:25,704
and more who we've loved.

631
00:49:28,184 --> 00:49:30,024
And who we leave behind.

632
00:49:32,264 --> 00:49:37,460
I've always known that
it's less about the life lived

633
00:49:37,544 --> 00:49:41,664
and more about
who you live that life with.

634
00:49:43,624 --> 00:49:46,540
And I'm oh, so grateful

635
00:49:46,624 --> 00:49:52,780
that this family has let me
share my life with them

636
00:49:52,864 --> 00:49:55,664
so close by their side.

637
00:49:57,904 --> 00:50:02,220
So if I might ask you to
raise your glass, family.

638
00:50:02,304 --> 00:50:04,460
All family.

639
00:50:04,544 --> 00:50:06,224
Happy wife...

640
00:50:07,984 --> 00:50:09,340
Happy life.

641
00:50:09,424 --> 00:50:12,624
Happy life.

642
00:52:00,424 --> 00:52:03,424
Hello, and welcome to my podcast.

643
00:52:04,824 --> 00:52:09,024
Today, I'm interviewing two people
I know very well.

644
00:52:10,344 --> 00:52:12,540
My daughter, Hannah Defoe,

645
00:52:12,624 --> 00:52:15,740
one of London's leading
family lawyers,

646
00:52:15,824 --> 00:52:19,580
and my son-in-law, Nathan Stern -

647
00:52:19,664 --> 00:52:22,620
once married, now divorced.

648
00:52:22,704 --> 00:52:24,860
And I wanted to talk to them

649
00:52:24,944 --> 00:52:30,664
and ask them what is
the secret to the good divorce?

650
00:52:32,864 --> 00:52:38,260
They say that you never really
know a man until you divorce him.

651
00:52:38,344 --> 00:52:41,860
Mm, well, I can vouch that is true.

652
00:52:41,944 --> 00:52:48,260
But no one tells you how hard
divorce really is.

653
00:52:48,344 --> 00:52:51,180
And expensive.

654
00:52:51,264 --> 00:52:55,540
And though we make vows
to love and hon our,

655
00:52:55,624 --> 00:52:57,300
for better or for worse,

656
00:52:57,384 --> 00:52:59,784
in sickness and in health...

657
00:53:01,824 --> 00:53:04,784
...those vows are hard to keep.

658
00:53:05,784 --> 00:53:09,024
Yet still, we put so much score
on the wedding.

659
00:53:10,424 --> 00:53:12,144
The happy ending.

660
00:53:16,544 --> 00:53:18,860
The double-page photo spread.

661
00:53:18,944 --> 00:53:23,900
The Instagram posts
of the perfect honeymoon.

662
00:53:23,984 --> 00:53:26,180
-Bye, darlings.
-Bye.

663
00:53:26,264 --> 00:53:28,300
I love you.
Love you too Grandma.

664
00:53:28,384 --> 00:53:29,820
See you soon.
And you Ronnie.

665
00:53:29,904 --> 00:53:31,820
I miss you!

666
00:53:31,904 --> 00:53:33,580
Bye.

667
00:53:33,664 --> 00:53:36,984
Have the most wonderful time!
Bye, love you!

668
00:53:46,144 --> 00:53:50,820
We forget to put as much care,
as much love,

669
00:53:50,904 --> 00:53:53,144
into the way we divorce.

670
00:53:54,344 --> 00:53:57,060
- Amazing day.
- Mm. Here.

671
00:53:57,144 --> 00:53:58,380
Amazing life.

672
00:53:58,464 --> 00:54:00,300
But it certainly costs us more.

673
00:54:00,384 --> 00:54:06,180
More than any wedding,
more than... all the memories

674
00:54:06,264 --> 00:54:11,060
and the photos and the shared stories

675
00:54:11,144 --> 00:54:15,424
that we... lace our lives
together with.

676
00:54:16,944 --> 00:54:19,944
I tell my clients it's easy to marry.

677
00:54:21,104 --> 00:54:24,104
What's hard is
to know how to divorce.

678
00:54:26,464 --> 00:54:28,784
Thank you for a lovely day.

679
00:54:30,104 --> 00:54:31,860
Kids with us tomorrow.
Uh-huh.

680
00:54:31,944 --> 00:54:34,220
It already is tomorrow.

681
00:54:34,304 --> 00:54:35,980
Night, night.
Night.

682
00:54:36,064 --> 00:54:38,220
Night, Hannah.
Night mum.

683
00:54:38,304 --> 00:54:41,620
So, what? No bad behaviour?

684
00:54:41,704 --> 00:54:43,780
No acrimonious mudslinging?

685
00:54:43,864 --> 00:54:46,420
Oh, hell, no,
there's plenty of that.

686
00:54:46,504 --> 00:54:50,820
But after the shouting,
after the war,

687
00:54:50,904 --> 00:54:53,900
I tell my clients
if they can lay down their weapons,

688
00:54:53,984 --> 00:54:59,900
their accusations,
their resentments, their regrets...

689
00:54:59,984 --> 00:55:01,544
Love you.

690
00:55:03,304 --> 00:55:04,740
Love you more.

691
00:55:04,824 --> 00:55:08,780
...wait for the ringing
in their ears to be silenced,

692
00:55:08,864 --> 00:55:13,620
and for the dust to settle
on what's left of their lives...

693
00:55:18,624 --> 00:55:20,744
...if they can stop...

694
00:55:22,544 --> 00:55:25,020
...and breathe,

695
00:55:25,104 --> 00:55:29,900
and listen to what
life has to offer next...

696
00:55:29,984 --> 00:55:35,104
Sometimes they've been
battling for so long...

697
00:55:37,384 --> 00:55:41,144
...they've forgotten that...

698
00:55:42,464 --> 00:55:44,304
...above the parapet...

699
00:55:46,864 --> 00:55:48,620
...there's birdsong.

700
00:56:49,104 --> 00:56:51,020
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701
00:56:51,104 --> 00:56:53,304
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