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"ON EVERY THOUSAND THAT IS GIVEN TO THE
BRANCHES OF EVIL BEATING,

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COMES SOMEONE WHO GET TO THE ROOT
HACKS." -HENRY DAVID THOREAU

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- [Interviewer] There is
a threat or danger,

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when you make a film like this?

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- Yes, just wait and see.

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Just wait and see.

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You have no idea

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of the far-reaching power of the church.

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They will stop at nothing,

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to prevent the
Truth comes to light.

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AUM FILMS PRESENTS

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IN COLLABORATION WITH BURNING BOAT

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A FILM BY KIP ANDERSEN

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AND KAMERON WATERS

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LOS ANGELES, CALIFORNIA

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- [Kip] My name is Kip,
I am a filmmaker

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from LA and I thought
I would know.

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In my previous films
I have the arrangements

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the meat, dairy and
fishing industry with the government,

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the pharmaceutical industry and
non-profit health

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and environmental organizations uncovered.

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And let's just say, she
were a little controversial.

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- This controversial documentary.

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- "What the Health" -
have you seen that?

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- Yes, it is full of propaganda.

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- The documentary "Cowspiracy"

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is by leading
Environmental organizations covered.

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- The diabetes associations
are eaten by these meat

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and dairy organizations

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and finances these pharmaceutical companies.

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- They just throw everything into one pot.

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- So get rid of science.

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- This is not science,
that's a lie.

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- I have a duty to do that
to make things right,

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so that people don't die.

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- [Kip] Although I'm with
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wanted to finish, was
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that there is another one
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that I was missing: the ethics of eating animals.

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And even though I myself

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as quasi-spiritual
consider a Buddhist yogi,

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because I have crystals and those
sacred geometry love,

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do yoga a few times a week

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and a picture of the Dalai Lama
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I didn't know much about it
the ethics of animal eating

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or where should I start,

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so I put the project on hold,

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until I attended a demonstration

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and a question and answer session
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Let's get straight to the point,

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we start with the questions.

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- 96% of the...
- I heard a question,

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which I have never heard before.

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- Is there a spiritual one
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I want to put it like this:

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How would Jesus kill an animal?

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- Wow, that's a bit
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so I can't say that.

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So I don't know what
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At that time I had no idea
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and me soon
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on which we one of the biggest cover-ups

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of the last 2,000 years.

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But at that point I didn't know

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what I should think of it.

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After the question and answer session came
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came up to me and said he was
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the a Christian way for consumption

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of animals and need help.

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I was very skeptical

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but something in mine
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that I am closest
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where he lived in his bus.

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And just start,
by saying who you are.

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- My name is Kam and I am at heart

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of the Bible Belt in the Deep South
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and a 17 year old father.

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My whole life has been church.

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♪ Little Lord Jesus ♪

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- I was raised in church.

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- I baptized you, my brother.

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- I even had one
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as a Christian musician.

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Recently I had to
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and a large part of mine
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namely the question about
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And it all started when I
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- The Daniel Fast.
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- What is the Daniel Fast?

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- It is inspired by the diet

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the Old Testament prophet Daniel.

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- He only ate fruits, vegetables and grains

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and gave up
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- Part of the goal of the diet is to

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those fasting their religious
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- [Kam] Daniel was a
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who proved to the king that
he 10 times wiser, healthier

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and was stronger than everyone
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And his secret was that
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and only ate vegetables.

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So I got this one
trendy vegetarian diet

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on the leading one
Daniel Plan website viewed.

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- And I want you to
Welcome Daniel plan.

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- [Came] I was, however
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of meat-based recipes,

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such as chicken breast fillets
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grilled lamb chops and
even meatloaf cupcakes.

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And then when I tried to call her:

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I have already several times
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but it always just works
the answering machine answered.

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If Daniel only ate vegetables,

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Then why is there meat?
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- I can't do that
answer, no, no, no.

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Stay tuned, stay tuned
Hold on for a moment, okay?

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- [Came] And then it was
it's even more interesting

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when I was on tour in the south

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and made a stopover,

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around the Museum of the Arche
to document Noah,

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where I found out that Noah, like Daniel,

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was also vegetarian, which surprised me.

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- If you are up to the original
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God made everything perfect.

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There was no death, no bloodshed,

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meaning no one ate meat.

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that man was vegetarian.

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So if you go back,
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still remembering it.

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After the flood she sees
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Noah was allowed to eat meat.

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- [Interviewer] Wait a minute,
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it seems strange to me

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that he spent his whole life
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and he loved animals so much...

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- And he saved her, yes.

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- [Interviewer] Yeah, he basically has

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the largest animal rescue
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and then he eats them all at once?

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- Yes, in a sense, yes.

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So it's not like that
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I'm on a farm
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that it is in our modern world
culture situations exist,

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in which the people
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And I'd like to see it,

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if that a little
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most Christians
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- [Kam] He has a good point

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about the agricultural ones
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So I got this
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to see what the practices are like there.

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Yes, do you have your own farm,

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on which you create your own
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- No.
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Where do you get your meat from?

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- Oh, why?
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- [Came] She didn't want to
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So I looked it up myself
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the leading distributor of meat brands

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from factory farming,
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for food in
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- So I started to
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when it comes to eating animals?

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And more specifically, what would he do?

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when it comes to killing an animal?

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- [Kip] Why is it important
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or it ate what has
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- For me it is important
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or has eaten, because my whole life

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was focused on following Jesus.

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There is even a phrase in Christianity

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"What would Jesus do?"
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or ethical dilemma.

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- Do you have all your WJD bracelets on?

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Do you know what that is?

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They are a reminder
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to live a better life.

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♪ Jesus, run with me, with me ♪

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- The fact is,

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whether you are a Christian or not,

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or whether you spend your whole life
not believing in Jesus for a long time

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everyone's entire life
people in the western world

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is influenced by the church.

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Christianity is that
largest religion in the world.

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There are 2.3 billion Christians worldwide.

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65% of the population of the
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88% of the members of the
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was a Christian or believed in God.

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- In America we pray
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we worship God.

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- I, Joseph Robinette Biden
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- That I am a Christian, a conservative

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and am a Republican,
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- God bless the United
States of America.

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- [Kip] What do Christian values have?

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to do with eating animals?

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- Kill and eat all Christians
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that we believe or
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that God commanded us
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So I'm wondering what the Christian one is

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or Christ-like type
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Hello, my name is Kameron Waters

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and I want to be baptized
leave to my love

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and my commitment as
to express born again Christian.

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- We have one here
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Brother Allen Smith is a
ordained minister

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and his grandson has come,
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- [Interviewer] Do you think
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Did Jesus eat animals?

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Surely he ate fish,

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I know it's not an animal, but.

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- If you give him one today
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he would definitely eat it.

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- [Interviewer] And when it comes to that,

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killing an animal, what would Jesus do?

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- I don't know that.

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- Interesting question.

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The possibility that he says:

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"I can kill this animal" or...

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Let's do this again.

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This is not good.

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- I don't think so
it when I do it every now and then

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a filet mignon fails,

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the return of the empire
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whether animals have intellectual rights.

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And I think the bottom line is:

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around for cows, horses and
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He has come for
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- All my pastors and
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against these questions
defend myself and tell me

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that I go this way
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This ultimately led to

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that I get out of my
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and my band, with the
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had to withdraw.

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So I left the church.

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Now I just live in my van

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and try to clarify this question,

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which is why I asked it to you.

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- [Kip] Is there a Christian one
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Eating animals ethically?

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I had no idea.

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Apparently one of them was
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my hero, the Dalai Lama,
which adheres to the first commandment

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of Buddhism holds, no
to kill a sentient being.

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So to see the downside of
Kam's question to understand

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I looked at

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why the Dalai Lama doesn't eat meat.

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THE DALAI LAMA IS A MEAT EATER

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What?

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The Dalai Lama eats meat.

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I was pretty shocked
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and have it with me straight away
contacted with the question,

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how it is possible

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To kill and eat animals compassionately.

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But he didn't answer.

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Maybe there is one
spiritual way of eating animals.

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the non-profit organizations
of ethics,

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maybe this was
the missing link

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to my previous films.

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So I turned to Kam

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and told him that I gave him
would help to find out

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whether it is a Christian
There is no way to kill animals

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and to eat when he is mine
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whether there are other spiritual paths.

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When it came to Christianity,

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I had to admit, however,

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that I wasn't even sure

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whether Jesus was even a real person

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especially since he was always seen as white
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even though he was from Nazareth
came from the Middle East.

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But Kam showed me a book
the leading historian

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of that time, Josephus,

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in the birth of Jesus and
Crucifixion are described.

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And so we got together,

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to first find out
what Jesus would do

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by contacting them directly
top, the Vatican.

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ROME, ITALY

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- We are here
at Greco University,

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the oldest university, the
connected to the Vatican.

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And this is my fourth year as dean.

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- [Interviewer] Did
Jesus ate meat?

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- Yes, of course, I mean,

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I think there is no doubt about it

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that Jesus ate meals with meat,

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because it was for example
part of Passover,

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because we know that
a lamb was sacrificed.

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- How would Jesus kill an animal?

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- I assume Jesus would become an animal

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on the least
kill in a painful way.

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- [Interviewer] And what is that exactly like?

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- I don't know it.

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I mean, it depends
what you have available.

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- [Interviewer] If he had a lamb

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and everything available
had, how could he do it?

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- I assume

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Jesus with a knife
to imagine in the hand,

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as he did to a lamb
throat cuts,

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That's pretty cruel, isn't it?

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Because a lamb is something
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like all living things.

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So it seems very
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that Jesus has a life

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ended in this way.

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- [Interviewer] Maybe has
So he didn't kill any animals

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or even eaten?

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- I think we have to go to
Coming to an end, I'm sorry.

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- [Kip] It was clear to us

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that we were best able to find out

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what Jesus would do if we
an expert in religion

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and would find animals.

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We found the theologian Dr.
Andrew Linzey from Oxford,

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of over 35 books on this
topic wrote.

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He hesitated to give an interview,

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but finally agreed.

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- Am I a lamb to the slaughter?

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Excellent, come through.

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- [Interviewer] Why have
for 50 years

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concerned with religion and animals?

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- Should I answer now?

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Yes, what made me do this

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to stay on the topic of animals,
is that I believe

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that the religious people

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and especially Christian people

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simply lost track.

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Whoever does not respect the creature,

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also does not respect the creator.

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- [Interviewer] And what
what Jesus would do if...

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- Sorry, wait a moment.

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I thought I would sit down.

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PROF. ANDREW LINZEY -
OXFORD THEOLOGIST, AUTHOR, PRIEST

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Sometimes people say

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what did Jesus do for the animals?

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Well, indeed must
Just remember the incident

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watch the temple cleansing.

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I mean, the temple was a place

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where many animal sacrifices were made.

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He goes in and cleanses him of everything,

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who buy and sell.

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- It is written,

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that my house is a house
of prayer should be

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and you have it in one
Turned into a den of thieves.

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- And of course it had
serious consequences.

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It was this act, in particular,

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although not exclusively,
to his trial

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and his execution.

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- [Interviewer] Wow, but what was the point of that

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to do with animals?

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- Well, what did they buy and sell?

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Well, it wasn't chocolate.

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They bought and sold
animals to sacrifice.

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- [Kip] I had no idea

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that there is a certain one
historical event occurred,

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that directly to the crucifixion
Jesus led four days later,

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known as:
- Den of thieves.

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- A den of thieves.
- A den of thieves.

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- A den of thieves.

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- But in today's sermons

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it only mentions that Jesus
was angry because of the money.

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- No more money should be exchanged.

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- He poured the coins
the money changer

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and knocked over their tables.

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- But when you get into the
looks at the past,

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there are hidden clues.

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- Because buying and selling
of sacrificial animals that was,

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what kept the temple alive.

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The truth is that the temple

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was a mass slaughterhouse at the time of Jesus.

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- [Kip] It was hard to believe

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that one of the holiest temples in the world

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for all western religions
was a slaughterhouse.

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But historical records show

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that millions of animals were sacrificed

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and the priests up to
wading in blood on their knees.

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It was time for that
Visit Holy Land.

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- Welcome to Jerusalem,
the place where the story

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of the Abrahamic religions began.

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From here we can see the southern wall

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of the Temple Mount

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and that was the place

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to the thousands of
Israelites will come

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to bring their special offerings.

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- [Kip] During the
I stayed behind on the temple tour,

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while Kam sneaked away,
to find signs of this,

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that the temple was a slaughterhouse.

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If that were true,

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would there be a way
there must be a drainage system,

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that was connected to the temple,

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for all the blood of the
to flush out killed animals.

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Came couldn't find anything,

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until he comes across a sign
came across and found

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that he had run through it.

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- [Came] I'm in
this huge drainage canal,

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from what according to the scriptures

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the blood of millions of animals flowed,

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who were sacrificed in the temple.

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- We're talking about rivers here
from blood, the entrails,

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the smell and the flies.

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It's a huge one
Enterprise with thousands

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and thousands upon thousands of animals.

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- [Kip] And next to that
Temples have archaeologists

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recently thousands of
Animal bones found

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which consists of hundreds of
kilometers away.

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- Jerusalem has none
natural resources

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and therefore animal flesh was undoubtedly

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the most important driving force
the economy of that time,

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no question.

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- [Kip] All sacrificed animals

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were grilled on the altars

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and from the priests
sold as meat.

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- Millions of animals were
sacrificed within these walls

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and it's something special,
to be here on the Feast of Sacrifice

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and rivers of blood in
to see the streets,

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in which so many animals
be slaughtered,

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like back then.

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This still happens today,

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and soon the temple institute plans,

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a prophetically perfect one
to sacrifice red cow,

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about the millions of Jewish animal sacrifices

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to return to the temple.

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And that massive wall

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only separates the Muslims from the Jewish people.

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The Christians are through
further walls separated.

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What a crazy one
Time in which you live.

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- [Kip] We were wondering

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like this connection between religion

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and killing animals
was created at all.

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We had to go back, way back,

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to where it all began.

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PREHISTORIC TIME

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- Prehistoric
Societies saw animals

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as ancestors of the tribe.

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They were the totems, they were sacred.

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That changed between
six and 8,000 B.C. BC,

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than the first humans
learned in the Middle East

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to domesticate animals.

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We checked theirs
Breeding, their sex life.

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We castrated the males
we separated the females.

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There was a kind of transition,

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where you had to be careful,

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because animals were still sacred.

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You couldn't just kill them like that.

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They had to tell the animal that
should be killed,

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say some guilt-reducing things.

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I'm sorry I have to kill you,

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but the gods want me to do this.

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This is how the animal sacrifice became
to a possibility

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the cities in a religious context

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to provide with meat
and it from this being,

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that was perhaps holy and had power,

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to turn into food.

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And eventually it evolved from that

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a religious system,
in which our God says:

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“Yes, you have license to do that.

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You have dominion over the earth."

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- [Kip] Dominion is the principle,

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from which all western religions derive

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in their attitude towards
Let animals guide you.

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This led to the widely
well-known spiritual methods

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the killing of animals for the market,

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which are known as kosher and halal.

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- Animals were the first form of money.

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We took animals from the wild

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and made them property,
to tradable objects.

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In fact, the word capital comes from it

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from the number of heads of the herd.

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A herd evaluated their wealth

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in the number of heads of animals.

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One of the words for money is pecuniary.

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This comes from an old one
Latin word for livestock,

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Livestock.

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- The livestock industry was
attacked by the authorities.

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These are harsh words
I meant it too.

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- [Kip] Government and religion
have been for thousands of years

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by killing animals

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intertwined for profit.

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At the time of Jesus earned
the temple tons of money

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and taxes with killing
animals for meat production,

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which financed the Roman Empire.

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Will this kind of money
still done today?

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It turns out that
an organic certification

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costs 500 to a thousand dollars,

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while a kosher certification

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costs between a thousand and 40,000 dollars.

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And the market could be in
a volume for two years

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of over 25 billion dollars,

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only surpassed by Halal,

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the Muslim equivalent of kosher,

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that this year

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probably 1.1 trillion
dollars will reach.

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As Jesus the temple
called a den of thieves,

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has Dr. Linzey indicated

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that Jesus not only opposed himself
who pronounced money changers,

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but also against the killing of animals,

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that led to his crucifixion?

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When we were in Israel,
we wanted to visit Nazareth,

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to see if we have any
historical references

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find out who Jesus really was.

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But when we looked up Josephus,

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where he lived in Nazareth
everything a different turn.

513
00:22:16,335 --> 00:22:20,797
- Josephus lists all 204

514
00:22:20,797 --> 00:22:23,342
villages and towns in Galilee,

515
00:22:23,342 --> 00:22:25,927
but Nazareth does not exist.

516
00:22:25,927 --> 00:22:28,221
- [Kip] What, no Nazareth?

517
00:22:28,221 --> 00:22:31,058
The only thing I'm worried about
Jesus thought he knew was

518
00:22:31,058 --> 00:22:33,560
that he comes from Nazareth.

519
00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:34,394
But then we have

520
00:22:34,394 --> 00:22:36,355
checked in the "Encyclopedia Biblica".

521
00:22:36,355 --> 00:22:38,398
and it says that it is
is very doubtful,

522
00:22:38,398 --> 00:22:41,026
that Nazareth was the place where Jesus lived.

523
00:22:41,026 --> 00:22:43,987
It's not the same as before
Testament or in the Talmud.

524
00:22:43,987 --> 00:22:46,656
And it only appears
200 years after his death

525
00:22:46,656 --> 00:22:50,535
in historical maps
or records.

526
00:22:50,535 --> 00:22:54,748
So why do we know him?
all as Jesus of Nazareth,

527
00:22:54,748 --> 00:22:58,043
if perhaps there was no Nazareth at all?

528
00:22:58,043 --> 00:23:00,587
What did this title refer to?

529
00:23:03,423 --> 00:23:04,674
INBOX 167

530
00:23:06,718 --> 00:23:09,346
When we came back,
we received an email

531
00:23:09,346 --> 00:23:11,890
by Dr. Linzey, in which he told us,

532
00:23:11,890 --> 00:23:16,144
that the situation at the university
is generally difficult.

533
00:23:17,062 --> 00:23:17,896
I AM FROM THE FACULTY OF THEOLOGY

534
00:23:17,896 --> 00:23:18,730
DISMISSED FROM OXFORD UNIVERSITY

535
00:23:18,730 --> 00:23:21,900
And around the same time
became the topic of Christianity

536
00:23:21,900 --> 00:23:22,901
and eating animals

537
00:23:22,901 --> 00:23:25,403
a hot potato among the pastors.

538
00:23:25,403 --> 00:23:26,446
- The reason why God

539
00:23:26,446 --> 00:23:28,323
animals on this planet
has set, is,

540
00:23:28,323 --> 00:23:31,326
that humans consume them,
should kill and eat.

541
00:23:31,326 --> 00:23:35,122
- You can meat
eat, it's not a sin.

542
00:23:35,122 --> 00:23:37,290
- Basically have to
we just make sure

543
00:23:37,290 --> 00:23:39,000
that we are nice to people,

544
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,837
if they have a vegetarian option

545
00:23:41,837 --> 00:23:42,754
or whatever you want to order,

546
00:23:42,754 --> 00:23:43,588
just keep them happy.

547
00:23:43,588 --> 00:23:46,508
This is a replacement for
biblical morality.

548
00:23:46,508 --> 00:23:49,386
It will save the animals.

549
00:23:49,386 --> 00:23:53,140
Okay, great, but if you
say that we do this,

550
00:23:53,140 --> 00:23:57,519
because God wants it, then it is
that is a doctrine of the devil.

551
00:23:57,519 --> 00:23:59,438
- [Parish member] That's right.

552
00:23:59,438 --> 00:24:00,272
- [Kip] But when we were

553
00:24:00,272 --> 00:24:03,150
addressed to the larger megachurches,

554
00:24:03,150 --> 00:24:05,277
all declined an interview.

555
00:24:09,030 --> 00:24:10,282
So it's January 19th

556
00:24:10,282 --> 00:24:13,118
and this drone has been hovering for about six

557
00:24:13,118 --> 00:24:15,954
of the last 10 nights outside the window.

558
00:24:17,205 --> 00:24:18,331
What's going on there?

559
00:24:18,331 --> 00:24:21,126
Since we started,
to investigate this topic,

560
00:24:21,126 --> 00:24:24,254
I see drones outside my window.

561
00:24:24,254 --> 00:24:25,964
February 24th.

562
00:24:25,964 --> 00:24:26,798
And I had the feeling

563
00:24:26,798 --> 00:24:28,717
that I am being watched and followed.

564
00:24:28,717 --> 00:24:32,220
This is about 15 now
the last 20 days like this.

565
00:24:32,220 --> 00:24:33,930
There's another drone.

566
00:24:33,930 --> 00:24:35,974
I don't know what's going on there.

567
00:24:35,974 --> 00:24:37,225
When all this happened,

568
00:24:37,225 --> 00:24:38,935
we asked ourselves whether Christianity

569
00:24:38,935 --> 00:24:41,730
has any connection to animal husbandry.

570
00:24:41,730 --> 00:24:43,815
It turned out
that several fast food chains

571
00:24:43,815 --> 00:24:45,275
like Chick-fil-A and In-N-Out Burger

572
00:24:45,275 --> 00:24:49,237
are openly Christian and
even secret Bible verses

573
00:24:49,237 --> 00:24:50,822
hidden in their packaging.

574
00:24:50,822 --> 00:24:53,408
And the president of Kam's church, the SBC,

575
00:24:53,408 --> 00:24:55,619
the one after the Vatican

576
00:24:55,619 --> 00:24:57,621
the largest Christian organization
is, had connections

577
00:24:57,621 --> 00:25:00,707
to the founder of
Chick-fil-A and Tyson Foods.

578
00:25:00,707 --> 00:25:01,541
- We are

579
00:25:01,541 --> 00:25:03,501
about 40 billion
Dollar heavy company.

580
00:25:03,501 --> 00:25:05,170
Beef makes about 40
% of our sales,

581
00:25:05,170 --> 00:25:06,213
Chicken about 30.

582
00:25:06,213 --> 00:25:08,757
- Can we do these two
Just shake hands with brothers?

583
00:25:08,757 --> 00:25:10,008
Let's just pray for them.

584
00:25:11,509 --> 00:25:12,510
♪ You are my Chick-fil-A ♪

585
00:25:12,510 --> 00:25:15,305
- [Kip] And the SBC recently had a video

586
00:25:15,305 --> 00:25:16,640
about respect for
animals published.

587
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,350
- And I think non-human animals

588
00:25:18,350 --> 00:25:19,893
deserve ours
serious attention.

589
00:25:19,893 --> 00:25:22,187
They too are vulnerable
they too are voiceless.

590
00:25:22,187 --> 00:25:23,563
- [Kip] But then it became instant

591
00:25:23,563 --> 00:25:25,065
deleted with an apology,

592
00:25:25,065 --> 00:25:27,400
because it's not with her
mission matched.

593
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:29,778
Then the same producer made a video

594
00:25:29,778 --> 00:25:31,947
on the topic "What would
Eat Jesus?" turned,

595
00:25:31,947 --> 00:25:34,658
beat the world's largest lobby group
for factory farming,

596
00:25:34,658 --> 00:25:36,618
the Animal Agriculture Alliance,

597
00:25:36,618 --> 00:25:38,620
with a book entitled

598
00:25:38,620 --> 00:25:42,374
“What would Jesus really eat?”
back on their homepage.

599
00:25:45,919 --> 00:25:47,420
- [Interviewer] So you have the video

600
00:25:47,420 --> 00:25:48,838
withdrawn about animal ethics,

601
00:25:48,838 --> 00:25:51,258
because you were funded by Tyson Foods

602
00:25:51,258 --> 00:25:53,468
or because you have close connections

603
00:25:53,468 --> 00:25:54,719
to the industry or to the food?

604
00:25:54,719 --> 00:25:55,554
- There is no connection,

605
00:25:55,554 --> 00:25:57,556
there is no connection to the company.

606
00:25:57,556 --> 00:25:58,848
I mean, there is
no pressure to do it.

607
00:25:58,848 --> 00:26:01,351
We just follow ours
Mission, you understand?

608
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:03,395
So.

609
00:26:05,814 --> 00:26:07,440
- And the mission is?

610
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:11,611
to help Christians
the gospel on moral

611
00:26:11,611 --> 00:26:13,238
and ethical questions
to apply and live.

612
00:26:14,406 --> 00:26:16,908
I think I have to go there.

613
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:19,995
So.

614
00:26:23,540 --> 00:26:25,125
It is clear in the Holy Scripture,

615
00:26:25,125 --> 00:26:27,127
that man is in God's hierarchy

616
00:26:27,127 --> 00:26:29,045
occupies a higher place than the animal.

617
00:26:29,045 --> 00:26:31,339
Furthermore, God has man

618
00:26:31,339 --> 00:26:34,050
given a mandate to govern.

619
00:26:34,050 --> 00:26:36,303
- People often say, oh, but Andrew,

620
00:26:36,303 --> 00:26:38,471
the people are after
created in the image of God

621
00:26:38,471 --> 00:26:39,597
and the government was given to them.

622
00:26:39,597 --> 00:26:40,557
- And God said:

623
00:26:40,557 --> 00:26:42,392
They should talk about the fish in the sea

624
00:26:42,392 --> 00:26:44,352
and about the birds of the sky
and rule over the cattle.

625
00:26:44,352 --> 00:26:46,021
- Domination is the power,

626
00:26:46,021 --> 00:26:48,189
to control at your own discretion

627
00:26:48,189 --> 00:26:49,691
or to dispose of it.

628
00:26:49,691 --> 00:26:54,613
- Because God gave us that
Dominion over the earth

629
00:26:54,613 --> 00:26:57,032
and given over all the animals on earth.

630
00:26:57,032 --> 00:26:59,409
We can do with them
what we think is right.

631
00:26:59,409 --> 00:27:02,162
- [Kip] However, when we...
original translation

632
00:27:02,162 --> 00:27:03,455
researched by "Dominion",

633
00:27:03,455 --> 00:27:04,914
we were surprised too
learned that "Dominion"

634
00:27:04,914 --> 00:27:08,168
actually means that we
serve as stewards to others,

635
00:27:08,168 --> 00:27:09,836
just as God does with us

636
00:27:09,836 --> 00:27:11,379
or what parents do with their children.

637
00:27:11,379 --> 00:27:14,341
- The word that uses
is "stewardship",

638
00:27:14,341 --> 00:27:16,551
the leadership, the leadership,

639
00:27:16,551 --> 00:27:20,096
supervision in one
responsible manner.

640
00:27:20,096 --> 00:27:21,640
- "Dominion" simply means,

641
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,141
that we have the responsibility

642
00:27:23,141 --> 00:27:26,561
to take care of the created order.

643
00:27:26,561 --> 00:27:29,481
In other words, we
are the servant species,

644
00:27:29,481 --> 00:27:31,024
not the ruling species.

645
00:27:32,942 --> 00:27:34,944
- [Kip] The real one
Translation of "Dominion"

646
00:27:34,944 --> 00:27:38,031
reminded me of compassion
for others in Buddhism,

647
00:27:38,031 --> 00:27:39,991
which is reflected in the first commandment,

648
00:27:39,991 --> 00:27:42,452
not to kill a sentient being,

649
00:27:42,452 --> 00:27:44,788
why it was difficult to understand

650
00:27:44,788 --> 00:27:47,374
how the Dalai Lama could eat meat.

651
00:27:47,374 --> 00:27:49,209
So we looked for some
Buddhist monks,

652
00:27:49,209 --> 00:27:50,418
to talk to them,

653
00:27:50,418 --> 00:27:52,837
including a professor of animal law.

654
00:27:52,837 --> 00:27:54,047
- There is no Buddhist path,

655
00:27:54,047 --> 00:27:55,090
to kill and eat an animal.

656
00:27:55,090 --> 00:27:56,508
Buddhists wouldn't do that.

657
00:27:56,508 --> 00:27:58,218
The Buddha stood in his time

658
00:27:58,218 --> 00:28:01,930
the animal sacrifices in India
very critical of.

659
00:28:01,930 --> 00:28:03,515
The Buddha therefore urged compassion

660
00:28:03,515 --> 00:28:06,101
towards all sentient beings.

661
00:28:06,101 --> 00:28:07,852
- Part of the vows
is not to kill,

662
00:28:07,852 --> 00:28:08,686
KELSANG - BUDDHIST MONK

663
00:28:08,686 --> 00:28:10,188
not to kill, period.

664
00:28:10,188 --> 00:28:12,482
If we had past lives,
all living things have each other,

665
00:28:12,482 --> 00:28:15,402
that we see today, at some point
once took care of us.

666
00:28:15,402 --> 00:28:17,362
You kill your mother.

667
00:28:17,362 --> 00:28:19,322
- When I'm in the forest,

668
00:28:19,322 --> 00:28:21,157
in the valley of death or something,

669
00:28:22,450 --> 00:28:26,204
and a rabbit appears
and I three days,

670
00:28:26,204 --> 00:28:29,624
seven days or two
I haven't eaten anything for weeks

671
00:28:29,624 --> 00:28:33,628
I can't use a stick

672
00:28:33,628 --> 00:28:36,339
or pebble on that
Throw rabbit to kill it

673
00:28:36,339 --> 00:28:38,091
and thus preserve my life.

674
00:28:39,217 --> 00:28:41,469
I can't do it, I'll die.

675
00:28:41,469 --> 00:28:43,513
This is what the Buddha teaches.

676
00:28:43,513 --> 00:28:45,640
- [Interviewer] The vow,
So not killing means

677
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:46,975
that a Buddhist
never allowed to eat animals.

678
00:28:46,975 --> 00:28:48,727
- No, I can't say never.

679
00:28:48,727 --> 00:28:51,604
Buying and killing are not the same.

680
00:28:51,604 --> 00:28:53,857
- No?
- No, there is no killing.

681
00:28:53,857 --> 00:28:54,941
- There is no killing.
- That doesn't exist.

682
00:28:54,941 --> 00:28:57,610
As far as Buddhism
As far as it's concerned, it's not that.

683
00:28:58,486 --> 00:29:01,197
- Know in the 21st century
we that all animals,

684
00:29:01,197 --> 00:29:03,032
those in the supermarkets
are offered and purchased,

685
00:29:03,032 --> 00:29:05,076
killed for consumption,

686
00:29:05,076 --> 00:29:06,327
to be consumed.

687
00:29:06,327 --> 00:29:07,996
The question therefore arises,

688
00:29:07,996 --> 00:29:10,874
whether humans through consumption
of food, karma

689
00:29:10,874 --> 00:29:12,041
a certain level of participation

690
00:29:12,041 --> 00:29:15,837
at this industrial
killing machine takes on itself.

691
00:29:15,837 --> 00:29:18,590
The answer is probably
a certain degree of yes.

692
00:29:18,590 --> 00:29:20,550
But since karma is an intention

693
00:29:20,550 --> 00:29:23,344
and this person not that
intended to kill

694
00:29:23,344 --> 00:29:26,598
but to eat an animal,
that has already been killed,

695
00:29:26,598 --> 00:29:28,433
is the karmic weight
of meat consumption

696
00:29:28,433 --> 00:29:30,935
a completely different, lesser one.

697
00:29:30,935 --> 00:29:35,899
For example, if someone
invites you to eat and a chicken

698
00:29:35,899 --> 00:29:39,611
or a piece of meat served,
then I will eat it.

699
00:29:39,611 --> 00:29:41,029
- Well, an example:

700
00:29:41,029 --> 00:29:44,699
I'm with friends
San Francisco as a guest

701
00:29:44,699 --> 00:29:47,535
and they had two sausages,

702
00:29:47,535 --> 00:29:49,996
that they wanted to put in the pasta,

703
00:29:49,996 --> 00:29:51,998
and they asked me the skin
to cut from the sausage.

704
00:29:51,998 --> 00:29:53,750
So I have the skin of
cut off the sausages

705
00:29:53,750 --> 00:29:56,294
and had dinner with them.

706
00:29:56,294 --> 00:29:57,462
- [Interviewer] Could this pig

707
00:29:57,462 --> 00:29:58,505
not one of your parents

708
00:29:58,505 --> 00:30:00,131
to have been from a previous life?

709
00:30:00,131 --> 00:30:02,008
- Not only can that
been, that was it.

710
00:30:02,008 --> 00:30:03,259
- [Interviewer] And you
did you eat it anyway?

711
00:30:03,259 --> 00:30:05,178
- I ate it and
it was really good too.

712
00:30:07,096 --> 00:30:09,682
- The host and the well-being of the host

713
00:30:09,682 --> 00:30:11,726
take precedence over the fact

714
00:30:11,726 --> 00:30:13,811
that this animal before
was killed at some point.

715
00:30:13,811 --> 00:30:15,605
- [Interviewer] Well, what
is when a Buddhist

716
00:30:15,605 --> 00:30:17,941
sitting at a buffet and
can serve yourself?

717
00:30:17,941 --> 00:30:19,567
- The way you
that does at a buffet,

718
00:30:19,567 --> 00:30:20,652
is very different
from the way,

719
00:30:20,652 --> 00:30:21,861
like you would with one
private dinner party.

720
00:30:21,861 --> 00:30:24,280
- [Interviewer] So would a
Buddhist, like here at the buffet,

721
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,074
never choose animal products.

722
00:30:26,074 --> 00:30:27,200
- Yes that is correct.

723
00:30:30,036 --> 00:30:30,870
- [Interviewer] If a Buddhist

724
00:30:30,870 --> 00:30:32,497
so choose meat,

725
00:30:32,497 --> 00:30:34,040
For whom is the animal then killed?

726
00:30:35,166 --> 00:30:37,669
- It is killed for the people,

727
00:30:38,795 --> 00:30:41,589
who intended to kill the animal.

728
00:30:41,589 --> 00:30:43,633
- Well, why did they kill it?

729
00:30:43,633 --> 00:30:44,467
- Because of the money.

730
00:30:44,467 --> 00:30:46,803
- [Interviewer] And whose
Did they take money?

731
00:30:46,803 --> 00:30:49,472
- That of the consumer.
- And who is this?

732
00:30:49,472 --> 00:30:50,431
- Not just me.

733
00:30:52,809 --> 00:30:54,310
- [Kip] It seemed like the subtleties

734
00:30:54,310 --> 00:30:57,897
and interpretations of the first
Commandments today

735
00:30:57,897 --> 00:30:59,315
would be difficult to understand.

736
00:30:59,315 --> 00:31:00,149
That's why we wanted

737
00:31:00,149 --> 00:31:02,235
return to the roots of Buddhism

738
00:31:02,235 --> 00:31:05,029
and with one of the highest ranking
Buddhist monks,

739
00:31:05,029 --> 00:31:06,322
the Karmapa, speak.

740
00:31:06,322 --> 00:31:07,991
- [Interviewer] How can a Buddhist

741
00:31:07,991 --> 00:31:10,994
compassionately kill or eat animals?

742
00:31:12,036 --> 00:31:12,871
- [Translator] There is
no Buddhist path,

743
00:31:12,871 --> 00:31:14,581
to kill compassionately,

744
00:31:14,581 --> 00:31:16,374
because we are all sentient beings

745
00:31:16,374 --> 00:31:18,334
like our father and
look at our mother.

746
00:31:19,836 --> 00:31:20,670
We have to look at it this way,

747
00:31:20,670 --> 00:31:23,131
as if we were eating our parents.

748
00:31:23,131 --> 00:31:25,133
And that's really, really hard to do.

749
00:31:26,759 --> 00:31:28,469
- [Kip] We learned
that it is for Buddhists

750
00:31:28,469 --> 00:31:29,971
that's why it's difficult
was to eat meat,

751
00:31:29,971 --> 00:31:33,808
because the Hindu Brahmins
Buddha's time sacrificed animals,

752
00:31:33,808 --> 00:31:36,436
like the priests at the time of Jesus.

753
00:31:36,436 --> 00:31:38,104
And according to some traditions

754
00:31:38,104 --> 00:31:40,607
Buddha offered instead
his own life,

755
00:31:40,607 --> 00:31:42,025
to save the animals.

756
00:31:42,025 --> 00:31:45,153
It was surprising too
learned that Hindu Brahmins

757
00:31:45,153 --> 00:31:47,572
killed animals at all,
because Hinduism

758
00:31:47,572 --> 00:31:49,282
is known as vegetarian religion,

759
00:31:49,282 --> 00:31:52,911
whose god Krishna is cows
consecrated and venerated as holy.

760
00:31:52,911 --> 00:31:55,246
In our search for
a spiritual path,

761
00:31:55,246 --> 00:31:56,664
to kill an animal,

762
00:31:56,664 --> 00:31:59,042
So we never came up with the idea

763
00:31:59,042 --> 00:32:02,462
in Hinduism according to one
Looking for an answer until...

764
00:32:02,462 --> 00:32:04,380
- Now comes an important message:

765
00:32:04,380 --> 00:32:05,715
The government has decided

766
00:32:05,715 --> 00:32:10,386
the slaughter of cattle
to be banned nationwide.

767
00:32:10,386 --> 00:32:11,471
- [Newscaster] The
Modi government's decision

768
00:32:11,471 --> 00:32:12,972
to ban slaughter,

769
00:32:12,972 --> 00:32:15,099
sparked widespread outrage.

770
00:32:15,099 --> 00:32:18,102
- [Reporter] It started with,
that activists protested,

771
00:32:18,102 --> 00:32:20,605
about the Nepalese Gadhimai festival,

772
00:32:20,605 --> 00:32:22,690
the greatest animal sacrifice
the world, to prevent.

773
00:32:22,690 --> 00:32:24,067
- [Kip] We couldn't understand

774
00:32:24,067 --> 00:32:26,110
like them slaughtering cows
can ban in India,

775
00:32:26,110 --> 00:32:28,863
because we thought they were
not kill their sacred cows?

776
00:32:28,863 --> 00:32:31,532
We found a local one
Animal rights activist who explained to us

777
00:32:31,532 --> 00:32:32,825
what was going on.

778
00:32:32,825 --> 00:32:34,160
- More cows are killed here

779
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,287
than anywhere else on the
world and no one knows.

780
00:32:37,330 --> 00:32:39,082
It's the biggest
Conspiracy in our country.

781
00:32:40,959 --> 00:32:43,294
It's really dangerous
the mafia that hates us,

782
00:32:43,294 --> 00:32:44,921
has it into the national ones
News made.

783
00:32:45,963 --> 00:32:47,590
- The cow that is worshiped in India,

784
00:32:47,590 --> 00:32:49,425
is now being smuggled across the border,

785
00:32:49,425 --> 00:32:50,635
smuggled from India.

786
00:32:50,635 --> 00:32:55,264
- From the alleged one
illegal beef mafia.

787
00:32:55,264 --> 00:32:56,641
These illegal beef smugglers

788
00:32:56,641 --> 00:32:58,893
terrorize one
company of people.

789
00:32:58,893 --> 00:33:01,062
We become this story
follow very closely.

790
00:33:01,062 --> 00:33:02,647
Thank you for being here with us.

791
00:33:02,647 --> 00:33:03,481
- [Newscaster]
Worrying news:

792
00:33:03,481 --> 00:33:04,941
The cattle mafia has struck again

793
00:33:04,941 --> 00:33:07,819
and targeting animal rights activists.

794
00:33:07,819 --> 00:33:10,989
The mafia started it.

795
00:33:10,989 --> 00:33:13,116
- [Kip] When we arrived, Altab had

796
00:33:13,116 --> 00:33:14,909
tracked down a cow smuggling truck,

797
00:33:14,909 --> 00:33:17,912
which was apparently an animal sacrifice
was traveling in Gadhimai.

798
00:33:17,912 --> 00:33:20,665
- [Altab] A cow smuggler
was identified,

799
00:33:20,665 --> 00:33:22,000
who is heading towards the border.

800
00:33:32,593 --> 00:33:34,554
- [Radio] There are cows on the truck.

801
00:33:36,597 --> 00:33:38,516
- They stop.

802
00:33:39,642 --> 00:33:41,185
- [Radio] Be careful, you
could be armed.

803
00:33:45,148 --> 00:33:47,108
- [Came] This is super illegal.

804
00:33:48,276 --> 00:33:50,945
- Let them through and
we can, let's go.

805
00:33:56,617 --> 00:33:58,411
- [Radio] He's there,
to cross the border,

806
00:33:58,411 --> 00:33:59,996
we have to catch him immediately.

807
00:34:00,872 --> 00:34:02,665
- Get the drone, get the drone.

808
00:34:03,791 --> 00:34:04,917
- [Came] Here she is, here she is.

809
00:34:04,917 --> 00:34:07,336
Come on, let's go, up, let's go.
- Left, left.

810
00:34:16,220 --> 00:34:17,638
- [Kip] We have the smuggling

811
00:34:17,638 --> 00:34:20,683
of the 70 stuffed cows
reported to the police.

812
00:34:20,683 --> 00:34:23,728
But surprisingly
we were rejected.

813
00:34:25,396 --> 00:34:26,898
- [Maneka] The Indian border is known

814
00:34:26,898 --> 00:34:29,567
for the smuggling of
Weapons, explosives, drugs

815
00:34:29,567 --> 00:34:31,110
and especially from cattle.

816
00:34:31,110 --> 00:34:34,447
All of this happens with the
Police complicity

817
00:34:34,447 --> 00:34:35,490
and the border security forces.

818
00:34:35,490 --> 00:34:37,575
- [Kip] In the meantime
we had to find out

819
00:34:37,575 --> 00:34:40,745
where all these smuggled cows came from.

820
00:34:40,745 --> 00:34:42,497
Altab sent us undercover,

821
00:34:42,497 --> 00:34:45,041
to find the surprising answer.

822
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:50,671
- So you don't want us to do that,

823
00:34:50,671 --> 00:34:52,173
because there can be problems.

824
00:34:52,173 --> 00:34:54,050
- We only use the surveillance camera,

825
00:34:54,050 --> 00:34:55,593
the spy camera.

826
00:34:57,470 --> 00:34:59,138
We have to face this
make man unrecognizable,

827
00:34:59,138 --> 00:35:00,431
if we want to film here,

828
00:35:00,431 --> 00:35:02,350
otherwise they will kill him.

829
00:35:07,230 --> 00:35:08,731
- [Kip] Even though this was better

830
00:35:08,731 --> 00:35:10,858
than most
dairy farms in the West,

831
00:35:10,858 --> 00:35:14,112
there were many similarities,
for example that every cow

832
00:35:14,112 --> 00:35:17,240
is artificially inseminated,
to get pregnant.

833
00:35:17,240 --> 00:35:18,783
After birth, the newborn becomes

834
00:35:18,783 --> 00:35:21,369
placed next to the mother until
she starts breastfeeding,

835
00:35:21,369 --> 00:35:23,162
and then taken away.

836
00:35:23,162 --> 00:35:25,540
When her newborn
is male, it is useless.

837
00:35:25,540 --> 00:35:28,167
In India it will be outside
tied up in the sun

838
00:35:28,167 --> 00:35:29,043
and starves,

839
00:35:29,043 --> 00:35:31,295
since Hindus are not allowed to kill cows,

840
00:35:31,295 --> 00:35:33,631
while everyone else
Dairy farms around the world

841
00:35:33,631 --> 00:35:34,841
killing them for veal.

842
00:35:34,841 --> 00:35:37,552
Then the mother is injected with oxytocin,

843
00:35:37,552 --> 00:35:39,595
that makes the cows
to feel like this,

844
00:35:39,595 --> 00:35:41,556
like she was having another baby,

845
00:35:41,556 --> 00:35:44,433
what causes them to
to give milk faster.

846
00:35:44,433 --> 00:35:46,352
The females repeat this cycle,

847
00:35:46,352 --> 00:35:48,187
three to four more pregnancies.

848
00:35:48,187 --> 00:35:49,981
- And what happens after that?
- You die.

849
00:35:49,981 --> 00:35:51,107
They say they die
then naturally.

850
00:35:51,107 --> 00:35:52,817
- [Kip] How do they die
naturally?

851
00:35:55,319 --> 00:35:56,404
- As soon as they stop giving milk,

852
00:35:56,404 --> 00:35:58,447
they are sent to slaughter.

853
00:35:58,447 --> 00:36:00,783
- [Kip] All those holy dairy cows

854
00:36:00,783 --> 00:36:02,410
are therefore sent to the slaughterhouse?

855
00:36:03,619 --> 00:36:04,453
- Yes.
- Yes.

856
00:36:06,581 --> 00:36:07,623
- Yes, that's right.

857
00:36:07,623 --> 00:36:08,457
We are shameful

858
00:36:08,457 --> 00:36:09,792
the largest exporters of beef.

859
00:36:09,792 --> 00:36:12,420
It's very difficult
people who drink milk

860
00:36:12,420 --> 00:36:16,424
to make it clear that the
Meat and leather industry

861
00:36:16,424 --> 00:36:18,009
fed by the dairy industry.

862
00:36:18,843 --> 00:36:20,052
- All dairy cows

863
00:36:20,052 --> 00:36:23,181
and milk buffalo end up as leather.

864
00:36:23,181 --> 00:36:24,599
- Yes.
- Naturally.

865
00:36:24,599 --> 00:36:25,850
mammary glands.

866
00:36:31,355 --> 00:36:33,524
Holy shit

867
00:36:33,524 --> 00:36:34,650
- [Maneka] When making leather

868
00:36:34,650 --> 00:36:36,903
many people are killed.

869
00:36:36,903 --> 00:36:38,946
The poorest of the poor
work in these companies,

870
00:36:38,946 --> 00:36:40,448
where they earn almost nothing.

871
00:36:40,448 --> 00:36:42,283
You stand in chemicals all day,

872
00:36:42,283 --> 00:36:43,367
to harden the leather.

873
00:36:43,367 --> 00:36:44,493
And most of them

874
00:36:44,493 --> 00:36:46,954
not only suffer from skin diseases,
but also from cancer.

875
00:36:46,954 --> 00:36:48,497
And all the leather chemicals

876
00:36:48,497 --> 00:36:50,666
are dumped into the rivers.

877
00:36:50,666 --> 00:36:52,752
- And where do all the chemicals go?

878
00:36:54,128 --> 00:36:55,421
- They flow into the Ganges.

879
00:36:55,421 --> 00:36:58,633
- [Kip] The Ganges, the
holy river Ganges?

880
00:36:58,633 --> 00:36:59,467
Isn't that bad?

881
00:37:00,968 --> 00:37:03,221
- No, no, no, that one
Ganges is very big.

882
00:37:05,348 --> 00:37:07,183
- [Kip] And what do you do?

883
00:37:07,183 --> 00:37:08,434
the spiritual community against it?

884
00:37:08,434 --> 00:37:10,519
- She just enlarges it,
increases exports.

885
00:37:10,519 --> 00:37:11,896
Anywhere in the world

886
00:37:11,896 --> 00:37:14,398
this industry works
based on guns.

887
00:37:14,398 --> 00:37:16,275
political support,
media support,

888
00:37:16,275 --> 00:37:18,653
both are manipulated with money

889
00:37:18,653 --> 00:37:20,905
and supported by religious feelings.

890
00:37:20,905 --> 00:37:22,740
- [Interviewer] But will
in the Hindu scriptures

891
00:37:22,740 --> 00:37:24,242
not the consumption of
Recommended for dairy products?

892
00:37:24,242 --> 00:37:26,369
- It's all nonsense.
- Many fonts

893
00:37:26,369 --> 00:37:28,996
were downright falsified,

894
00:37:28,996 --> 00:37:32,625
Verses were inserted,
Parts were deleted

895
00:37:32,625 --> 00:37:36,003
because man the scriptures

896
00:37:36,003 --> 00:37:38,047
wanted to use it for his own purposes.

897
00:37:38,047 --> 00:37:39,966
- [Kip] And there weren't
only the Hindu scriptures,

898
00:37:39,966 --> 00:37:42,093
whose texts have been questioned.

899
00:37:42,093 --> 00:37:43,678
Altab told us:

900
00:37:43,678 --> 00:37:45,930
- Islam wants that
You protect the environment.

901
00:37:45,930 --> 00:37:49,100
God says in the Koran that I am the human being

902
00:37:49,100 --> 00:37:51,060
made him the guardian of the planet.

903
00:37:51,060 --> 00:37:52,812
- [Kip] Altab told us,
that the Prophet Mohammed

904
00:37:52,812 --> 00:37:55,273
was horrified in the Islamic scriptures

905
00:37:55,273 --> 00:37:56,524
about the grievances in the
Meccan society

906
00:37:56,524 --> 00:37:57,566
at that time,

907
00:37:57,566 --> 00:38:00,820
including sacrifice
of animals for idols.

908
00:38:00,820 --> 00:38:02,613
This drove him out of town,

909
00:38:02,613 --> 00:38:05,908
where he entered the cave of Hira,
in which he is greeted by the angel Gabriel

910
00:38:05,908 --> 00:38:08,035
received the first revelation of the Koran.

911
00:38:12,873 --> 00:38:15,293
Later that night, activists felt

912
00:38:15,293 --> 00:38:17,420
another cow smuggling truck.

913
00:38:25,928 --> 00:38:28,222
This time the cows were saved

914
00:38:28,222 --> 00:38:31,058
and taken to a shelter.

915
00:38:35,104 --> 00:38:35,938
- My grandfather

916
00:38:35,938 --> 00:38:37,565
founded the first
Dairy farm in India.

917
00:38:37,565 --> 00:38:40,067
Before that there was no organized dairy.

918
00:38:40,067 --> 00:38:41,485
- [Kip] Do you drink dairy products yourself?

919
00:38:41,485 --> 00:38:42,611
- No no.
- No why?

920
00:38:45,448 --> 00:38:47,616
- Because it's unnecessary.

921
00:38:47,616 --> 00:38:50,619
It does us no good and is cruel.

922
00:38:50,619 --> 00:38:51,454
The meat industry

923
00:38:51,454 --> 00:38:53,748
is simply one
Conspiracy of silence.

924
00:38:53,748 --> 00:38:55,624
Nobody talks about it, nobody shows it.

925
00:38:55,624 --> 00:38:56,459
- [Interviewer] Hold on

926
00:38:56,459 --> 00:38:57,960
for a spiritual person?

927
00:38:57,960 --> 00:38:59,879
- No.
- No no.

928
00:38:59,879 --> 00:39:03,132
- I believe that action
is better than praying.

929
00:39:08,888 --> 00:39:09,722
- [Kip] Before we left India,

930
00:39:09,722 --> 00:39:11,682
we made one last attempt

931
00:39:11,682 --> 00:39:13,309
to interview the Dalai Lama.

932
00:39:13,309 --> 00:39:16,729
TEMPLE OF THE DALAI LAMA, DHARAMSALA, INDIA

933
00:39:19,398 --> 00:39:21,567
Shortly afterwards, however, he gave up
an official statement,

934
00:39:21,567 --> 00:39:23,402
in which he said that it was okay,

935
00:39:23,402 --> 00:39:25,196
eating meat from dead animals,

936
00:39:25,196 --> 00:39:27,364
who were not slaughtered for meat.

937
00:39:27,364 --> 00:39:30,034
We couldn't each other
explain how this was possible.

938
00:39:30,034 --> 00:39:32,203
But on the way home Kam realized

939
00:39:32,203 --> 00:39:33,871
that he had a Christian friend,

940
00:39:33,871 --> 00:39:36,123
who was known for eating animals,

941
00:39:36,123 --> 00:39:38,292
who were not slaughtered for meat.

942
00:39:40,544 --> 00:39:42,380
- Hey, welcome to "Food for Louis."

943
00:39:42,380 --> 00:39:45,091
We're translating the series
roadkilled animals

944
00:39:45,091 --> 00:39:48,260
and we stumbled upon a fox.

945
00:39:48,260 --> 00:39:49,595
Oh yeah, look at that meat.

946
00:39:53,849 --> 00:39:56,936
I spent 2012 with one
Started YouTube channel

947
00:39:56,936 --> 00:40:01,899
"Food for Louis", on the
I see the limits of it,

948
00:40:01,899 --> 00:40:04,110
what it means, a
to be a carnivore,

949
00:40:04,110 --> 00:40:05,528
explored in its rawest form,

950
00:40:05,528 --> 00:40:06,821
by driving over animals,

951
00:40:06,821 --> 00:40:09,115
Ate squirrels, pigeons and rabbits.

952
00:40:09,115 --> 00:40:10,533
But one thing I did

953
00:40:10,533 --> 00:40:14,078
really got me in a lot of trouble.

954
00:40:14,078 --> 00:40:17,081
I'm going to eat my goldfish.

955
00:40:17,081 --> 00:40:18,332
That caused an uproar.

956
00:40:18,332 --> 00:40:19,500
All national newspapers

957
00:40:19,500 --> 00:40:21,877
printed large articles about it.

958
00:40:21,877 --> 00:40:24,004
Seven of my videos
were taken offline.

959
00:40:24,004 --> 00:40:28,509
I was the one from the RSPCA
most wanted person.

960
00:40:28,509 --> 00:40:30,845
Friends from church were very concerned

961
00:40:30,845 --> 00:40:32,721
and said we would
would like to pray for you,

962
00:40:32,721 --> 00:40:34,056
we think you need help.

963
00:40:34,056 --> 00:40:36,600
- [Kip] People will
Knowing them as psychopaths.

964
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:38,144
- I said: "Don't you see,

965
00:40:38,144 --> 00:40:39,937
that it is completely hypocritical

966
00:40:39,937 --> 00:40:42,314
that you want to pray for me
and you worry about me,

967
00:40:42,314 --> 00:40:46,777
while all in mine
Church happy hamburgers

968
00:40:46,777 --> 00:40:48,779
and chicken and fish and
continued to eat like this,

969
00:40:48,779 --> 00:40:50,990
and they had no problem with it

970
00:40:50,990 --> 00:40:52,908
and saw no connection.

971
00:40:52,908 --> 00:40:53,742
- [Kip] The realization

972
00:40:53,742 --> 00:40:56,036
that it is for his church
was morally okay,

973
00:40:56,036 --> 00:40:59,498
that he certain animals
ate, but others didn't,

974
00:40:59,498 --> 00:41:02,334
was a bit confusing
and gave us the feeling

975
00:41:02,334 --> 00:41:05,171
to be in some kind of matrix.

976
00:41:05,171 --> 00:41:09,383
- In the movie "The Matrix"
the characters believed

977
00:41:09,383 --> 00:41:11,552
that they lived their lives freely,

978
00:41:11,552 --> 00:41:12,928
but in reality
that wasn't the case.

979
00:41:12,928 --> 00:41:15,264
Everything they saw was an illusion,

980
00:41:15,264 --> 00:41:17,308
which was created by this matrix.

981
00:41:17,308 --> 00:41:20,227
And we can do a similar one
recognize mentality,

982
00:41:20,227 --> 00:41:22,146
when it comes to eating animals.

983
00:41:22,146 --> 00:41:24,815
I refer to this as
the carnistic matrix.

984
00:41:24,815 --> 00:41:28,402
Carnism is the invisible,
dominant belief system,

985
00:41:28,402 --> 00:41:30,988
that the structure of the
society permeates

986
00:41:30,988 --> 00:41:32,281
and leads us to

987
00:41:32,281 --> 00:41:35,409
our perception of our
distort behavior

988
00:41:35,409 --> 00:41:37,912
and a gap in ours
to create awareness.

989
00:41:37,912 --> 00:41:40,206
So we're not really each other
aware of what we are doing.

990
00:41:40,206 --> 00:41:43,292
Without consciousness there is no free choice.

991
00:41:43,292 --> 00:41:44,627
Carnism is the reason why

992
00:41:44,627 --> 00:41:47,630
that we love dogs and certain animals

993
00:41:47,630 --> 00:41:51,091
and others can eat without
to recognize the contradictions

994
00:41:51,091 --> 00:41:51,926
and without noticing

995
00:41:51,926 --> 00:41:53,344
that they are not with ours
Values match.

996
00:41:53,344 --> 00:41:56,805
We don't connect
between the flesh,

997
00:41:56,805 --> 00:41:58,307
the eggs or the
Dairy products on our plate

998
00:41:58,307 --> 00:42:01,060
and the living beings that make them
Food once was.

999
00:42:01,936 --> 00:42:04,021
- Would you like it,
if someone eats you?

1000
00:42:05,981 --> 00:42:08,817
- No, I wouldn't.
- Then why should I

1001
00:42:08,817 --> 00:42:12,321
eat this poor, harmless animal?

1002
00:42:12,321 --> 00:42:14,073
- [Adult] But
do you understand what I'm saying?

1003
00:42:14,073 --> 00:42:16,200
We didn't kill this animal.

1004
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:17,660
It's good for your body.

1005
00:42:17,660 --> 00:42:20,496
Jesus created animals
so we can eat them.

1006
00:42:21,830 --> 00:42:23,916
- God gave us these animals.

1007
00:42:23,916 --> 00:42:26,335
And that, of course, is the point

1008
00:42:26,335 --> 00:42:28,295
where the sick people of this world

1009
00:42:28,295 --> 00:42:30,130
that are just twisted,

1010
00:42:30,130 --> 00:42:32,591
because they don't have God and the Bible

1011
00:42:32,591 --> 00:42:33,884
and don't know the truth,

1012
00:42:33,884 --> 00:42:38,764
the status of an animal or beast

1013
00:42:38,764 --> 00:42:40,641
to that of a human being.

1014
00:42:40,641 --> 00:42:42,017
- Let me do this thing

1015
00:42:42,017 --> 00:42:43,811
get rid of it once and for all.

1016
00:42:43,811 --> 00:42:47,273
It was impossible in the old days
Testament to being vegetarian

1017
00:42:47,273 --> 00:42:48,482
and to be at peace with God.

1018
00:42:48,482 --> 00:42:49,775
That wasn't possible.

1019
00:42:50,651 --> 00:42:51,944
Impossible.

1020
00:42:51,944 --> 00:42:54,780
Yes to meat, to all flesh,

1021
00:42:57,199 --> 00:42:59,285
Dog, cat, whatever.

1022
00:42:59,285 --> 00:43:00,369
- [Interviewer] What
would be if a host

1023
00:43:00,369 --> 00:43:02,746
a Buddhist
Would serve dog meat?

1024
00:43:02,746 --> 00:43:05,165
- Why?
- Would it be different?

1025
00:43:05,165 --> 00:43:06,458
- Why should it be any different?

1026
00:43:06,458 --> 00:43:07,293
- [Interviewer] Oh, a Buddhist

1027
00:43:07,293 --> 00:43:09,878
so would eat a dog?

1028
00:43:09,878 --> 00:43:11,422
- Well, I wouldn't eat it.

1029
00:43:11,422 --> 00:43:12,256
- [Interviewer] But it wouldn't

1030
00:43:12,256 --> 00:43:14,258
insult the host?

1031
00:43:14,258 --> 00:43:16,010
- What if she was a
would serve unicorn?

1032
00:43:16,010 --> 00:43:18,637
I've never heard of one
belongs to such a situation.

1033
00:43:18,637 --> 00:43:20,848
- [Narrator] Today, on the summer solstice,

1034
00:43:20,848 --> 00:43:22,224
a week-long festival began,

1035
00:43:22,224 --> 00:43:24,685
where the dog is served as food.

1036
00:43:24,685 --> 00:43:27,479
- People from all over Asia
come to this city,

1037
00:43:27,479 --> 00:43:30,983
to eat dogs, and we have thousands

1038
00:43:30,983 --> 00:43:32,234
and saved thousands and thousands of dogs.

1039
00:43:32,234 --> 00:43:33,068
I have started

1040
00:43:33,068 --> 00:43:34,862
undercover in this
to go to slaughterhouses.

1041
00:43:34,862 --> 00:43:38,657
It was so shocking and
devastating and it's sad

1042
00:43:38,657 --> 00:43:40,326
that that took me to the
brought knowledge,

1043
00:43:40,326 --> 00:43:43,329
that there is no difference
between a cow,

1044
00:43:43,329 --> 00:43:46,457
a pig, a sheep
or give to a dog.

1045
00:43:46,457 --> 00:43:48,709
Many people don't know

1046
00:43:48,709 --> 00:43:49,835
but I don't just take care of dogs,

1047
00:43:49,835 --> 00:43:54,840
I'm going in too
Pig slaughterhouses and cow farms.

1048
00:43:55,090 --> 00:43:56,967
But every time I save a dog,

1049
00:43:56,967 --> 00:43:59,345
I see myself dying there.

1050
00:44:01,180 --> 00:44:02,014
Anyway,

1051
00:44:04,391 --> 00:44:05,434
I'm sorry,

1052
00:44:06,810 --> 00:44:08,020
I screwed up.

1053
00:44:09,813 --> 00:44:12,399
My belief in a religion
died while I was there.

1054
00:44:17,112 --> 00:44:18,822
There is no God in
a killing station.

1055
00:44:21,784 --> 00:44:25,079
The moment an animal
is driven to death,

1056
00:44:26,330 --> 00:44:27,164
there is no hope,

1057
00:44:28,540 --> 00:44:29,500
no chance of a better life,

1058
00:44:29,500 --> 00:44:33,087
there is no tomorrow, no
divine intervention.

1059
00:44:54,483 --> 00:44:55,567
I don't know what I am now,

1060
00:44:55,567 --> 00:45:00,322
but definitely not religious.

1061
00:45:00,322 --> 00:45:02,658
I think we are experiencing
especially the modern Holocaust.

1062
00:45:02,658 --> 00:45:07,663
I think that's the one
21st century atrocity,

1063
00:45:07,663 --> 00:45:08,747
eating animals.

1064
00:45:13,419 --> 00:45:15,754
- Suppression has the property

1065
00:45:15,754 --> 00:45:19,883
both very subtle
also to be universal.

1066
00:45:19,883 --> 00:45:22,511
Well, the beginning of discrimination

1067
00:45:22,511 --> 00:45:26,056
and oppression will
given to the child first,

1068
00:45:27,391 --> 00:45:29,309
when it asks, “What am I eating?”

1069
00:45:30,394 --> 00:45:32,187
- [Adult] I'm going to eat turkey.

1070
00:45:32,187 --> 00:45:33,063
- And why?

1071
00:45:33,063 --> 00:45:36,650
- And chickens, pigs and cows.

1072
00:45:36,650 --> 00:45:39,319
- But pigs are nice,
and chickens are nice,

1073
00:45:39,319 --> 00:45:40,779
and cows are nice.

1074
00:45:40,779 --> 00:45:44,408
- And then it continues,
they are similar creatures,

1075
00:45:44,408 --> 00:45:47,703
one should be maintained
and the other must die.

1076
00:45:47,703 --> 00:45:50,914
And that's basically what
happened to my family.

1077
00:45:55,711 --> 00:45:58,464
After the war I finally worked

1078
00:45:58,464 --> 00:46:03,093
for an environmental consulting firm
in the slaughterhouse

1079
00:46:03,093 --> 00:46:06,430
and as I walked around taking notes,

1080
00:46:06,430 --> 00:46:11,310
I suddenly gasped
Stacks of heads, hearts,

1081
00:46:11,310 --> 00:46:14,271
hooves and animal bodies.

1082
00:46:14,271 --> 00:46:19,234
My first reaction was this
memory of the body parts,

1083
00:46:19,234 --> 00:46:22,404
that I saw in Auschwitz
had, to the Jewish victims,

1084
00:46:22,404 --> 00:46:24,281
to the members of my own family,

1085
00:46:24,281 --> 00:46:26,742
who died in these camps.

1086
00:46:26,742 --> 00:46:30,245
The use of
Cattle cars to my people

1087
00:46:30,245 --> 00:46:32,080
to transport to the death camps,

1088
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:36,335
accommodation in narrow wooden boxes

1089
00:46:36,335 --> 00:46:40,255
and the identification of the
victim by a number,

1090
00:46:40,255 --> 00:46:44,301
the deception so that the
People outside the walls

1091
00:46:44,301 --> 00:46:47,012
didn't really know what was going on.

1092
00:46:47,012 --> 00:46:50,891
The famous Nobel Prize winner
Isaac Bashevis Singer said,

1093
00:46:50,891 --> 00:46:55,229
that for the animals everyone
people are Nazis

1094
00:46:55,229 --> 00:46:59,274
and life for the animals
is an eternal Treblinka.

1095
00:47:00,484 --> 00:47:02,945
- [Kip] It was me
unpleasant, the Holocaust

1096
00:47:02,945 --> 00:47:04,488
comparable to killing animals.

1097
00:47:04,488 --> 00:47:06,740
But Alex told us,
that the word Holocaust

1098
00:47:06,740 --> 00:47:09,535
originally on one
Jewish animal sacrifice involved

1099
00:47:09,535 --> 00:47:11,286
that was grilled on the altar,

1100
00:47:11,286 --> 00:47:12,996
a common practice from the temple,

1101
00:47:12,996 --> 00:47:16,959
Jesus the den of thieves
called that relates to the system

1102
00:47:16,959 --> 00:47:19,086
of spiritual upbringing
and killing of animals

1103
00:47:19,086 --> 00:47:21,004
developed for food,
which is known as kosher.

1104
00:47:22,005 --> 00:47:22,840
It was clear to us

1105
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:24,550
that we kosher one
Had to visit the farm

1106
00:47:24,550 --> 00:47:26,927
to see if this maybe
the spiritual way is

1107
00:47:26,927 --> 00:47:29,012
Raising and killing animals.

1108
00:47:29,012 --> 00:47:32,975
But interestingly, declined
every farm welcomes our visit.

1109
00:47:32,975 --> 00:47:34,059
So we joined forces

1110
00:47:34,059 --> 00:47:36,061
with an Israeli one
Undercover activist together,

1111
00:47:36,061 --> 00:47:39,523
which puts us in one of the best
kosher farms

1112
00:47:39,523 --> 00:47:40,732
brought to the area.

1113
00:47:41,733 --> 00:47:43,569
It wasn't what we expected.

1114
00:47:43,569 --> 00:47:45,279
- Something's wrong with them.

1115
00:47:45,279 --> 00:47:47,155
They suffer a lot

1116
00:47:47,155 --> 00:47:50,617
with the tumors and that
Pus from her eyes.

1117
00:47:50,617 --> 00:47:53,453
The Rabbi will explain to you
that this is kosher,

1118
00:47:53,453 --> 00:47:55,664
that we can all eat it,

1119
00:47:55,664 --> 00:47:59,209
because it doesn't matter.

1120
00:47:59,209 --> 00:48:01,336
- They're just waiting
to be slaughtered.

1121
00:48:01,336 --> 00:48:03,797
At the age of one year
are they still babies,

1122
00:48:03,797 --> 00:48:04,715
ROEE SHPERNIK - ACTIVIST, GLASS WALLS

1123
00:48:04,715 --> 00:48:06,008
so this is her whole life.

1124
00:48:06,008 --> 00:48:10,262
They just sit on the shit,

1125
00:48:10,262 --> 00:48:12,097
and have many diseases.

1126
00:48:12,097 --> 00:48:13,223
See what they do.

1127
00:48:14,516 --> 00:48:19,271
- We feed on that
Energy of misery and suffering

1128
00:48:19,271 --> 00:48:21,815
and from a lot of pain.

1129
00:48:21,815 --> 00:48:25,193
And it penetrates us.

1130
00:48:25,193 --> 00:48:27,446
Their suffering is really so great.

1131
00:48:28,322 --> 00:48:30,657
And they are friendly and beautiful

1132
00:48:31,617 --> 00:48:33,035
and don't deserve it.

1133
00:48:36,580 --> 00:48:37,414
- [Kip] Kosher agriculture

1134
00:48:37,414 --> 00:48:39,124
didn't seem to be any different,

1135
00:48:39,124 --> 00:48:41,043
but Tall took us to a rabbi,

1136
00:48:41,043 --> 00:48:43,962
of over a million animals
killed to find out

1137
00:48:43,962 --> 00:48:46,715
whether the kosher killing of the
Reason for spirituality is.

1138
00:48:47,591 --> 00:48:51,178
- THIS IS THE KNIFE I USE,

1139
00:48:51,178 --> 00:48:53,722
TO KILL KOSHER ANIMALS.

1140
00:48:53,722 --> 00:48:56,391
YOU WIPE THE KNIFE.

1141
00:48:56,391 --> 00:48:59,019
THE KNIFE IS SO SHARP
SMOOTH AND FLAWLESS,

1142
00:48:59,019 --> 00:49:01,313
THAT THE ANIMAL DOES NOT FEEL ANYTHING.

1143
00:49:01,313 --> 00:49:03,982
- I can show you a video.

1144
00:49:03,982 --> 00:49:05,859
- [Narrator] For the kosher ones
Kill take the cow

1145
00:49:05,859 --> 00:49:07,486
first into the machine,
fix the neck

1146
00:49:07,486 --> 00:49:09,780
and rotate the body 180 degrees.

1147
00:49:09,780 --> 00:49:11,031
Then the throat is slit.

1148
00:49:11,031 --> 00:49:12,449
The cow is hung upside down,

1149
00:49:12,449 --> 00:49:13,283
to drain the blood.

1150
00:49:13,283 --> 00:49:15,369
This is not to be confused with Halal,

1151
00:49:15,369 --> 00:49:16,995
the Islamic interpretation,

1152
00:49:16,995 --> 00:49:19,790
where the cow is only 90
degrees must be rotated,

1153
00:49:19,790 --> 00:49:20,624
turning to the cow

1154
00:49:20,624 --> 00:49:22,417
and Allah Akbar, praise be to God, says,

1155
00:49:22,417 --> 00:49:23,669
before her throat is cut

1156
00:49:23,669 --> 00:49:24,961
and hangs her upside down.

1157
00:49:24,961 --> 00:49:27,381
These methods are intended to
to reduce suffering.

1158
00:49:27,381 --> 00:49:29,466
- So, ah ha, one, two.

1159
00:49:29,466 --> 00:49:31,051
That's all, okay.

1160
00:49:31,051 --> 00:49:33,553
This is for the animal.

1161
00:49:33,553 --> 00:49:37,599
- You've seen the movies,
where everything is so clean

1162
00:49:37,599 --> 00:49:40,143
and how they have this battle box,

1163
00:49:40,143 --> 00:49:43,772
and with this music - It
is not like that at all.

1164
00:49:43,772 --> 00:49:46,650
You can see everything,
you can hear everything.

1165
00:49:46,650 --> 00:49:48,068
They smell the blood.

1166
00:49:48,068 --> 00:49:51,238
It's just like a massacre.

1167
00:49:51,238 --> 00:49:53,490
And with a lot of violence, that's it,

1168
00:49:53,490 --> 00:49:54,825
it is a violent thing.

1169
00:49:57,119 --> 00:50:00,038
BEN ISRAEL - WORKER IN
A KOSHER SLAUGHTERHOUSE,

1170
00:50:00,038 --> 00:50:02,207
WHO FILMED UNDERCOVER

1171
00:50:09,423 --> 00:50:12,175
- Well, I just had a flashback.

1172
00:50:19,057 --> 00:50:21,810
I have the suffering in
seen in their eyes.

1173
00:50:21,810 --> 00:50:24,479
That was the first time that
I saw an animal cry.

1174
00:50:26,523 --> 00:50:29,276
Then I said to myself, this
is really terrible.

1175
00:50:31,278 --> 00:50:33,113
There is no kosher food in Israel.

1176
00:50:33,113 --> 00:50:35,323
What do you mean by kosher?

1177
00:50:35,323 --> 00:50:36,158
There isn't one.

1178
00:50:39,286 --> 00:50:40,120
- [Kip] Since we felt

1179
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:42,914
that kosher no longer
is spiritual, we wanted to see

1180
00:50:42,914 --> 00:50:45,667
whether humane slaughter is the solution.

1181
00:50:45,667 --> 00:50:48,795
And we have one
certified humane slaughterhouse

1182
00:50:48,795 --> 00:50:51,506
Class A found in Kam's hometown.

1183
00:50:52,507 --> 00:50:54,468
- Hey, you're not allowed to be here.

1184
00:50:54,468 --> 00:50:56,344
You must resign now.

1185
00:50:56,344 --> 00:50:57,637
You have to resign.

1186
00:50:57,637 --> 00:50:59,264
- [Kip] You really didn't want to,

1187
00:50:59,264 --> 00:51:01,475
that someone sees what
what's going on in there,

1188
00:51:01,475 --> 00:51:05,020
especially that the
Slaughterhouses former prisoners

1189
00:51:05,020 --> 00:51:07,939
put on probation,
to kill the animals.

1190
00:51:07,939 --> 00:51:09,941
- Don't take photos of me, man,

1191
00:51:09,941 --> 00:51:13,737
I'm on probation, man,
do not take photos.

1192
00:51:13,737 --> 00:51:17,574
- You kill at least two
up to 3,000 cows per day.

1193
00:51:17,574 --> 00:51:19,868
That's a lot of killing
and a lot of blood.

1194
00:51:19,868 --> 00:51:22,287
80 hours per week,
maybe even more.

1195
00:51:22,287 --> 00:51:24,081
It's really psychologically disturbing.

1196
00:51:24,081 --> 00:51:25,874
Sometimes you have nightmares,

1197
00:51:25,874 --> 00:51:28,585
They only dream about it
Battles and all that.

1198
00:51:28,585 --> 00:51:29,920
And there is always the possibility

1199
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:31,463
that you just freak out.

1200
00:51:31,463 --> 00:51:33,507
85% of them were
already in prison once.

1201
00:51:33,507 --> 00:51:35,217
It's just one
bad idea for someone

1202
00:51:35,217 --> 00:51:37,260
who was locked up for a long time.

1203
00:51:37,260 --> 00:51:40,222
And you carry knives everywhere
and blood with it,

1204
00:51:40,222 --> 00:51:42,265
kill cows or are near them.

1205
00:51:42,265 --> 00:51:43,099
- And these workers

1206
00:51:43,099 --> 00:51:45,644
have the highest
Occupational accident rates

1207
00:51:45,644 --> 00:51:47,854
and one of the highest rates
of suicide, drug addiction,

1208
00:51:47,854 --> 00:51:50,065
Alcoholism and marital abuse.

1209
00:51:50,065 --> 00:51:51,900
And so they go back after work

1210
00:51:51,900 --> 00:51:54,027
and let the frustration and misery,

1211
00:51:54,027 --> 00:51:55,862
that they inflict on other living beings,

1212
00:51:55,862 --> 00:51:58,323
on others or on yourself.

1213
00:51:58,323 --> 00:51:59,324
- [Interviewer] What
is when all the killing

1214
00:51:59,324 --> 00:52:01,910
too much and you it
just can't do it anymore?

1215
00:52:01,910 --> 00:52:02,744
- They give you a job

1216
00:52:02,744 --> 00:52:04,704
and you have no other
Choice than to make it.

1217
00:52:04,704 --> 00:52:06,123
You have to do what they tell you,

1218
00:52:06,123 --> 00:52:08,750
and if you don't,
send them back.

1219
00:52:08,750 --> 00:52:11,002
- Back to where?
- Back to prison.

1220
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:12,754
- [Kip] We found out

1221
00:52:12,754 --> 00:52:14,422
that many slaughterhouse workers

1222
00:52:14,422 --> 00:52:16,299
either prisoners on parole

1223
00:52:16,299 --> 00:52:17,676
or are immigrants who are forced to

1224
00:52:17,676 --> 00:52:18,885
under these conditions

1225
00:52:18,885 --> 00:52:22,597
to work for just 93 cents a day,

1226
00:52:22,597 --> 00:52:26,726
what basically
Slave labor with PTSD means.

1227
00:52:28,353 --> 00:52:31,481
- The model of slavery
actually begins

1228
00:52:31,481 --> 00:52:34,484
with animal breeders in the ancient Near East.

1229
00:52:34,484 --> 00:52:37,070
And the next form is
human slavery,

1230
00:52:37,070 --> 00:52:39,072
as women and children

1231
00:52:39,072 --> 00:52:41,741
were traded among the early shepherds.

1232
00:52:41,741 --> 00:52:43,368
- Look at slavery,

1233
00:52:43,368 --> 00:52:45,996
check them out
bonded servants as children,

1234
00:52:45,996 --> 00:52:47,831
look at many things
things that used to be normal

1235
00:52:47,831 --> 00:52:49,624
certain things that
we used to do,

1236
00:52:49,624 --> 00:52:50,792
which we look at today and say:

1237
00:52:50,792 --> 00:52:52,252
"Oh no, that's terrible."

1238
00:52:52,252 --> 00:52:54,838
While we
develop further, they fall away.

1239
00:52:54,838 --> 00:52:56,506
We can eat them, we
can do with them,

1240
00:52:56,506 --> 00:52:57,716
what we want, because
they are just animals.

1241
00:52:57,716 --> 00:53:00,385
And that was the same reasoning,

1242
00:53:00,385 --> 00:53:01,803
with which the people
founded slavery.

1243
00:53:01,803 --> 00:53:04,181
These people are not
People, they have dark skin.

1244
00:53:04,181 --> 00:53:06,224
This is a woman, she
is not entirely human,

1245
00:53:06,224 --> 00:53:07,350
she is a woman.

1246
00:53:07,350 --> 00:53:08,894
We can do whatever we want with her.

1247
00:53:08,894 --> 00:53:11,021
- Anyone who says that we are first

1248
00:53:11,021 --> 00:53:12,981
about the human ones
have to deal with problems,

1249
00:53:12,981 --> 00:53:16,151
don't understand how that
Oppression of animals

1250
00:53:16,151 --> 00:53:18,236
the suppression of the
influenced people.

1251
00:53:18,236 --> 00:53:19,487
The oppression of animals

1252
00:53:19,487 --> 00:53:21,990
exacerbates the oppression of women.

1253
00:53:21,990 --> 00:53:24,075
Through objectification
we are no more

1254
00:53:24,075 --> 00:53:25,285
in possession of our own bodies

1255
00:53:25,285 --> 00:53:26,870
and we see this in meat consumption.

1256
00:53:26,870 --> 00:53:30,790
We say chicken wings,
not wings of a chicken.

1257
00:53:30,790 --> 00:53:34,878
Or leg of lamb, no, it
is the leg of a lamb.

1258
00:53:34,878 --> 00:53:36,755
This reinforces the idea that someone

1259
00:53:36,755 --> 00:53:39,758
is just a breasts or a legs person,

1260
00:53:39,758 --> 00:53:41,343
a collection of body parts,

1261
00:53:41,343 --> 00:53:43,178
because body parts cannot speak.

1262
00:53:43,178 --> 00:53:45,680
So if we humans as better

1263
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:47,432
construct as non-human animals

1264
00:53:47,432 --> 00:53:50,226
and then oppressive
create systems,

1265
00:53:50,226 --> 00:53:52,228
we are speciesistic.

1266
00:53:52,228 --> 00:53:56,483
Speciesism is one
oppression that is linked to racism,

1267
00:53:56,483 --> 00:54:01,237
sexism and others
systems of oppression.

1268
00:54:01,237 --> 00:54:03,281
- [Kip] Since we saw how
the oppression of animals

1269
00:54:03,281 --> 00:54:04,824
with the oppression of people

1270
00:54:04,824 --> 00:54:07,118
in this industrial
system is related,

1271
00:54:07,118 --> 00:54:09,996
we asked ourselves whether the
spiritual way to raise animals

1272
00:54:09,996 --> 00:54:12,457
and to kill, perhaps
outside the system

1273
00:54:12,457 --> 00:54:15,335
in local renewables
is located on open-air farms,

1274
00:54:15,335 --> 00:54:17,921
that of morally conscious meat eaters

1275
00:54:17,921 --> 00:54:19,089
are so popular.

1276
00:54:19,089 --> 00:54:21,800
The most popular in the country is Polyface Farms,

1277
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:24,511
led by the Christian
Farmer Joel Salatin,

1278
00:54:24,511 --> 00:54:27,097
who says that he is the animals
kills on his farm like this,

1279
00:54:27,097 --> 00:54:29,307
as he hopes Jesus would do.

1280
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:32,644
- Well, if the New York
Times me a rebel

1281
00:54:32,644 --> 00:54:34,020
and calls evangelists, yes,

1282
00:54:34,020 --> 00:54:35,063
I am certainly an evangelist,

1283
00:54:35,063 --> 00:54:38,400
for I preach that this
the actual truth

1284
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:40,026
about food and agriculture.

1285
00:54:40,026 --> 00:54:44,364
We believe in a living space,
which enables the animal

1286
00:54:44,364 --> 00:54:48,284
its emotional specificity
to be fully expressed.

1287
00:54:48,284 --> 00:54:49,661
- [Came] Oh, in this cage?

1288
00:54:49,661 --> 00:54:52,289
- Just so you know,
it is a shelter,

1289
00:54:52,289 --> 00:54:53,581
it is a shelter.

1290
00:54:53,581 --> 00:54:57,544
Cage sounds restrictive.

1291
00:54:57,544 --> 00:54:58,378
Hello, ladies.

1292
00:54:59,504 --> 00:55:02,215
The pigs are not now
more just bacon and chops.

1293
00:55:02,215 --> 00:55:04,300
They become comrades-in-arms

1294
00:55:04,300 --> 00:55:08,179
and fellow players in this
great healing service.

1295
00:55:08,179 --> 00:55:10,015
- [Came] And how long
is their lifespan?

1296
00:55:10,015 --> 00:55:10,890
- A pig lives,

1297
00:55:10,890 --> 00:55:12,100
I don't know how
as long as a pig lives,

1298
00:55:12,100 --> 00:55:13,643
they live a very, very long time.

1299
00:55:14,561 --> 00:55:19,274
But we harvest them before
they get old and tough.

1300
00:55:21,693 --> 00:55:23,194
- [Came] When are they old and tough?

1301
00:55:24,362 --> 00:55:25,572
- At six months.

1302
00:55:25,572 --> 00:55:26,489
How are you, pig?

1303
00:55:27,449 --> 00:55:29,200
Oh, it's just a
Nice life, right?

1304
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:30,702
Yes, it's just a good life.

1305
00:55:30,702 --> 00:55:33,246
- [Came] What do you mean, how
would Jesus kill an animal?

1306
00:55:33,246 --> 00:55:36,207
- Yes, I would hope

1307
00:55:36,207 --> 00:55:39,002
that he would kill an animal like that
would like we do.

1308
00:55:39,002 --> 00:55:40,712
We call this the Wheel of Fortune.

1309
00:55:41,713 --> 00:55:43,798
If we get them here with this
Put your head in first,

1310
00:55:43,798 --> 00:55:47,218
a hug if you like that
want, it makes them calm.

1311
00:55:48,928 --> 00:55:51,389
Then we slit
open their throats here

1312
00:55:52,474 --> 00:55:54,934
and this is the one
automatic feather pickers.

1313
00:55:54,934 --> 00:55:56,728
We rip off their heads and feet

1314
00:55:56,728 --> 00:55:58,772
and then they go into these cooling tubs.

1315
00:55:58,772 --> 00:56:00,273
From killing to cooling

1316
00:56:00,273 --> 00:56:01,524
So it happens in quick succession.

1317
00:56:02,567 --> 00:56:03,943
- [Kip] Will be here too
slaughtered the pigs?

1318
00:56:03,943 --> 00:56:06,237
- Pigs, cows, goats and sheep

1319
00:56:06,237 --> 00:56:07,989
everyone has to come to one
to be brought to the slaughterhouse.

1320
00:56:07,989 --> 00:56:08,823
- [Kam] So the chicken is the only one

1321
00:56:08,823 --> 00:56:09,991
that is processed here.

1322
00:56:09,991 --> 00:56:12,577
- And rabbits.
- And rabbits, got it.

1323
00:56:13,495 --> 00:56:14,579
Tell me what you're doing.

1324
00:56:14,579 --> 00:56:16,331
- [Worker] I'll stun it first.

1325
00:56:24,506 --> 00:56:25,924
- And what does that mean,
when you anesthetize it?

1326
00:56:25,924 --> 00:56:27,842
- Stun it so it won't feel anything anymore.

1327
00:56:27,842 --> 00:56:30,804
It's unconscious, so
it is much more humane.

1328
00:56:30,804 --> 00:56:32,472
- There are many people today,

1329
00:56:32,472 --> 00:56:34,391
who kill animals every day.

1330
00:56:34,391 --> 00:56:36,351
And that's just not it
good for your psyche.

1331
00:56:38,478 --> 00:56:39,604
- [Kip] I didn't feel like

1332
00:56:39,604 --> 00:56:41,523
that Jesus would do something like that.

1333
00:56:41,523 --> 00:56:44,192
And we found out
that this free range

1334
00:56:44,192 --> 00:56:47,112
with grass feeding still
has further effects,

1335
00:56:47,112 --> 00:56:49,656
than just killing farm animals.

1336
00:56:49,656 --> 00:56:51,574
- Every time you have a free-roaming one

1337
00:56:51,574 --> 00:56:53,993
or eat grass-fed animal,

1338
00:56:53,993 --> 00:56:56,704
contribute to the killing of other animals,

1339
00:56:56,704 --> 00:56:58,748
because farmers have to
kill other animals,

1340
00:56:58,748 --> 00:57:01,000
who compete for the land of the cows:

1341
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:03,545
Wolves, bears, hawks and eagles.

1342
00:57:03,545 --> 00:57:07,006
- The number of hawks and
Adler must be reduced.

1343
00:57:09,217 --> 00:57:11,052
- This is devastating for wildlife.

1344
00:57:11,052 --> 00:57:14,639
It's devastating for him
Amazon forest, the Chaco forest.

1345
00:57:14,639 --> 00:57:16,975
You're burning right now, why?

1346
00:57:16,975 --> 00:57:18,852
To provide pasture land for cultivation

1347
00:57:18,852 --> 00:57:20,603
from grass-fed meat.

1348
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:26,818
Every second becomes a
Hectares of rainforest cleared,

1349
00:57:26,818 --> 00:57:28,653
partly for grass-fed beef,

1350
00:57:28,653 --> 00:57:30,697
but especially for the cultivation of soy,

1351
00:57:30,697 --> 00:57:33,992
with the cattle on the
fed all over the world.

1352
00:57:33,992 --> 00:57:35,285
And that destroys the forest,

1353
00:57:35,285 --> 00:57:37,662
destroys the valuable medicinal plants,

1354
00:57:37,662 --> 00:57:41,666
the amazing diversity
of the animal world.

1355
00:57:41,666 --> 00:57:43,668
It forces indigenous peoples to

1356
00:57:43,668 --> 00:57:45,879
homeless on the streets
of cities to live.

1357
00:57:45,879 --> 00:57:49,632
And so is their wisdom
now threatened with extinction.

1358
00:57:49,632 --> 00:57:52,343
SEÑOR WILSON ROBLES -
HERBAL MEDICINE SHAMAN

1359
00:57:53,636 --> 00:57:57,515
- I DEDICATE MYSELF TO THE PATH OF AYAHUASCA,

1360
00:57:57,515 --> 00:58:00,476
AND SHARE THE EXPERIENCE
OF LIFE WITH ALL,

1361
00:58:00,476 --> 00:58:02,312
TO DISCOVER CONSCIOUSNESS.

1362
00:58:02,312 --> 00:58:05,523
WHEN IT COMES TO SPIRITUAL CEREMONIES,

1363
00:58:05,523 --> 00:58:09,277
THEY ARE NOT AT ALL
COMPATIBLE WITH MEAT.

1364
00:58:09,277 --> 00:58:13,281
BECAUSE MEAT IS ENERGY DENSE.

1365
00:58:13,281 --> 00:58:15,617
IT BLOCKS THE ESSENTIAL,

1366
00:58:15,617 --> 00:58:17,160
IT CAPTIVATES YOU.

1367
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:19,746
IT DOES NOT ALLOW YOU TO FREE YOURSELF.

1368
00:58:19,746 --> 00:58:20,997
- [Interviewer] And when you pray

1369
00:58:20,997 --> 00:58:23,249
or thank you for the animal,
before you eat it?

1370
00:58:23,249 --> 00:58:26,586
- No, , no, no, no, no.

1371
00:58:26,586 --> 00:58:28,004
THESE ARE JUST JUSTIFICATIONS.

1372
00:58:28,004 --> 00:58:30,298
SOME SAY THEY HAVE
ASKED FOR PERMISSION

1373
00:58:30,298 --> 00:58:31,466
TO KILL THE BEAST.

1374
00:58:31,466 --> 00:58:35,136
BUT YOU DIDN'T HEAR
WHAT THE ANIMAL SAID.

1375
00:58:35,136 --> 00:58:37,889
- [Kip] With all the killing
and environmental destruction,

1376
00:58:37,889 --> 00:58:40,808
which itself is regenerative
animal husbandry causes,

1377
00:58:40,808 --> 00:58:43,770
is perhaps hunting
on wild and free animals

1378
00:58:43,770 --> 00:58:46,731
the ethical way to kill an animal.

1379
00:58:46,731 --> 00:58:47,732
And Kam said,

1380
00:58:47,732 --> 00:58:48,983
that he actually

1381
00:58:48,983 --> 00:58:50,652
a Christian
belonged to youth hunting club,

1382
00:58:50,652 --> 00:58:52,320
who did exactly that.

1383
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:54,572
CHRISTIAN YOUTH HUNTING CLUB

1384
00:58:57,492 --> 00:58:59,118
- Lord, in the name of your Son Jesus,

1385
00:58:59,118 --> 00:59:01,579
send us a few
Deer that you incite

1386
00:59:01,579 --> 00:59:03,456
and get it moving, help us,

1387
00:59:03,456 --> 00:59:08,378
to hunt successfully for you
and to be 100% humane.

1388
00:59:08,378 --> 00:59:10,713
In Jesus name, Amen.
- Amen.

1389
00:59:11,589 --> 00:59:13,258
- My heart was beating fast.

1390
00:59:13,258 --> 00:59:15,093
LOGAN - FIRST TIME HUNTING

1391
00:59:15,093 --> 00:59:16,261
He said, "There's a deer."

1392
00:59:16,261 --> 00:59:18,137
When I got the gun
snapped, I just thought,

1393
00:59:19,681 --> 00:59:21,349
oh, there it is.

1394
00:59:24,310 --> 00:59:26,437
- Wait for him to come broadside,

1395
00:59:26,437 --> 00:59:27,814
and then give him a bullet

1396
00:59:27,814 --> 00:59:29,524
directly behind the shoulder.

1397
00:59:36,990 --> 00:59:39,867
- [Logan] When I kill that
Deer saw, I felt,

1398
00:59:42,745 --> 00:59:45,873
well, I don't know
how should I explain it,

1399
00:59:45,873 --> 00:59:48,543
somehow bad.

1400
00:59:49,711 --> 00:59:50,837
But took the blood from the spot,

1401
00:59:50,837 --> 00:59:52,922
where I shot the deer,

1402
00:59:52,922 --> 00:59:56,301
and has on each cheek
made a mark.

1403
00:59:56,301 --> 00:59:59,596
- And only you can do that
wipe it off tomorrow morning.

1404
00:59:59,596 --> 01:00:00,930
- [Logan] That's kind of weird.

1405
01:00:00,930 --> 01:00:03,558
Then he told me that...

1406
01:00:03,558 --> 01:00:05,768
- And this is the initiation.

1407
01:00:05,768 --> 01:00:07,020
Logan, this is a tradition.

1408
01:00:07,020 --> 01:00:08,938
- And it was just a tradition.

1409
01:00:08,938 --> 01:00:10,273
- In our community.

1410
01:00:12,025 --> 01:00:13,443
- Yes, I just went along with it.

1411
01:00:15,194 --> 01:00:17,196
- Lord, I am today
Come to you tomorrow.

1412
01:00:18,156 --> 01:00:20,700
I want to thank you for the deer,

1413
01:00:20,700 --> 01:00:22,869
that we were allowed to kill.

1414
01:00:22,869 --> 01:00:25,079
Thank you for allowing Logan

1415
01:00:25,079 --> 01:00:27,290
to kill this deer.

1416
01:00:27,290 --> 01:00:30,376
And we want you this morning
Thank you for a good hunt.

1417
01:00:32,003 --> 01:00:34,505
- At that point it was
I really excited

1418
01:00:34,505 --> 01:00:37,133
and my adrenaline levels
rose and I just thought,

1419
01:00:37,133 --> 01:00:38,551
yay, I killed it.

1420
01:00:38,551 --> 01:00:42,930
And then I thought, damn,

1421
01:00:45,850 --> 01:00:48,811
I actually just killed an animal.

1422
01:00:48,811 --> 01:00:50,355
I don't know how to explain it.

1423
01:00:55,485 --> 01:00:57,945
When I saw the calf, they were using his,

1424
01:00:59,238 --> 01:01:01,074
it was kind of sweet.

1425
01:01:01,074 --> 01:01:04,077
It really reminded me of the deer,

1426
01:01:06,412 --> 01:01:10,208
because of the size difference
wasn't that big.

1427
01:01:11,417 --> 01:01:15,463
They are both beautiful animals.

1428
01:01:15,463 --> 01:01:17,840
So that's basically how I feel.

1429
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:19,842
- [Interviewer] Was that your first or?

1430
01:01:21,177 --> 01:01:22,804
- Pretend you
would be happy about it.

1431
01:01:30,103 --> 01:01:30,937
- When I grew up,
I've always tried

1432
01:01:30,937 --> 01:01:31,896
to be a macho man.

1433
01:01:31,896 --> 01:01:33,064
I tried to be tough.

1434
01:01:33,064 --> 01:01:34,107
That was probably the time

1435
01:01:34,107 --> 01:01:35,900
in which I enjoy the most
longed to be heard,

1436
01:01:35,900 --> 01:01:38,403
to be someone, a kind
of having authority.

1437
01:01:38,403 --> 01:01:40,238
And I tried to achieve that,

1438
01:01:40,238 --> 01:01:41,531
by taking advantage of something.

1439
01:01:41,531 --> 01:01:42,990
The alpha males want
be even more alpha male,

1440
01:01:42,990 --> 01:01:44,200
so they look for things

1441
01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:45,993
that they hold on to
able to say: shit,

1442
01:01:45,993 --> 01:01:47,161
I'm bigger, I'm stronger,

1443
01:01:47,161 --> 01:01:48,538
I beat my chest.

1444
01:01:48,538 --> 01:01:50,164
So I was basically a bully.

1445
01:01:50,164 --> 01:01:51,290
I wasn't even one
tyrant towards something,

1446
01:01:51,290 --> 01:01:52,750
that could defend itself.

1447
01:01:52,750 --> 01:01:53,918
I was a tyrant towards something,

1448
01:01:53,918 --> 01:01:57,338
the 50 or 100 meters
stood away from me

1449
01:01:57,338 --> 01:01:58,965
and which I shot at with a rifle.

1450
01:01:58,965 --> 01:02:00,758
And I assume that
is one of the reasons

1451
01:02:00,758 --> 01:02:02,009
why I joined the military.

1452
01:02:02,009 --> 01:02:03,970
Because it wasn't sport,
to walk around out there

1453
01:02:03,970 --> 01:02:06,305
and something to hunt, that
couldn't defend himself.

1454
01:02:06,305 --> 01:02:09,600
- Since we live in primitive
societies hunted other animals,

1455
01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:12,603
this encouraged the use of
tools and technology

1456
01:02:12,603 --> 01:02:14,731
and the development of weapons.

1457
01:02:14,731 --> 01:02:18,568
So there was a lot
fights among people,

1458
01:02:18,568 --> 01:02:19,569
who kept the herds.

1459
01:02:19,569 --> 01:02:20,611
- Herding animals

1460
01:02:20,611 --> 01:02:23,072
was a direct cause
for the first wars

1461
01:02:23,072 --> 01:02:27,034
and the old word for war
from Sanskrit, Gavia,

1462
01:02:27,034 --> 01:02:29,787
comes from the old word
Go, which means cow.

1463
01:02:29,787 --> 01:02:32,498
So war was the desire for more cows.

1464
01:02:32,498 --> 01:02:34,083
It was a way
to increase wealth.

1465
01:02:34,083 --> 01:02:36,544
This is how war and slavery arose.

1466
01:02:36,544 --> 01:02:38,588
A wealthy elite emerged

1467
01:02:38,588 --> 01:02:40,339
and religions arose,

1468
01:02:40,339 --> 01:02:44,135
which is the basis for the
society in which we live,

1469
01:02:44,135 --> 01:02:46,679
formed, namely animals
to own as property,

1470
01:02:46,679 --> 01:02:49,932
to eat them, them routinely
and kill mercilessly

1471
01:02:49,932 --> 01:02:50,766
and to eat.

1472
01:02:50,766 --> 01:02:52,768
- Meat is so much

1473
01:02:52,768 --> 01:02:54,353
with the patriarchal one
ethics identified,

1474
01:02:54,353 --> 01:02:55,980
with the end justifying the means,

1475
01:02:55,980 --> 01:02:58,733
and using violence as a means of pleasure.

1476
01:02:58,733 --> 01:03:00,485
We see it in advertising,

1477
01:03:00,485 --> 01:03:02,778
which calls on men to
to eat meat.

1478
01:03:02,778 --> 01:03:05,072
♪ Oh yeah, I'm a guy ♪

1479
01:03:05,072 --> 01:03:07,074
♪ I will eat this meat ♪

1480
01:03:07,074 --> 01:03:09,786
- [Announcer] Eat like a man, man.

1481
01:03:09,786 --> 01:03:11,746
- This desperate masculinity,

1482
01:03:11,746 --> 01:03:13,206
to try not to be vulnerable,

1483
01:03:13,206 --> 01:03:15,333
So to take advantage of something
that is vulnerable.

1484
01:03:15,333 --> 01:03:17,126
After Iraq I never hunted again,

1485
01:03:17,126 --> 01:03:19,545
and whatever in
my body was, was out,

1486
01:03:19,545 --> 01:03:21,130
because you know how it is
is to be hunted.

1487
01:03:21,130 --> 01:03:22,465
And then when you're in the...
other position,

1488
01:03:22,465 --> 01:03:23,841
the tide turns.

1489
01:03:25,301 --> 01:03:28,095
- And the tide turned
also in our search.

1490
01:03:28,095 --> 01:03:30,181
As we of all the
Wars, inequality

1491
01:03:30,181 --> 01:03:31,015
and experienced oppression,

1492
01:03:31,015 --> 01:03:32,683
which appear to be due to this
were that the temples

1493
01:03:32,683 --> 01:03:35,102
became slaughterhouses,
we remembered

1494
01:03:35,102 --> 01:03:38,856
what Jesus did in the temple
which he called the den of thieves

1495
01:03:38,856 --> 01:03:41,442
and which led to his crucifixion.

1496
01:03:41,442 --> 01:03:44,529
And we had the strong one
Inclination, the truth

1497
01:03:44,529 --> 01:03:46,405
about this secret of
Nazareth to find out

1498
01:03:46,405 --> 01:03:49,158
somehow with Jesus' motive

1499
01:03:49,158 --> 01:03:51,035
for temple cleansing
could be connected.

1500
01:03:51,035 --> 01:03:54,789
But we didn't know where
we should search until:

1501
01:03:54,789 --> 01:03:57,500
The Dead Man's Scrolls
sea come back to life,

1502
01:03:57,500 --> 01:03:59,502
with new findings
for possible connections

1503
01:03:59,502 --> 01:04:01,170
of the scrolls.

1504
01:04:01,170 --> 01:04:03,381
Archaeologists and excavators

1505
01:04:03,381 --> 01:04:05,675
return to the original location

1506
01:04:05,675 --> 01:04:06,884
the Dead Sea Scrolls

1507
01:04:06,884 --> 01:04:09,637
in the cave of Qumran
back in the West Bank.

1508
01:04:09,637 --> 01:04:11,847
- [Kip] These scrolls
have been for decades

1509
01:04:11,847 --> 01:04:14,684
hidden from the church until
the archaeologist Robert Eisenman

1510
01:04:14,684 --> 01:04:16,811
them daringly to the public
made accessible.

1511
01:04:16,811 --> 01:04:19,188
And coincidentally lived
it only a few kilometers

1512
01:04:19,188 --> 01:04:20,398
away from us.

1513
01:04:20,398 --> 01:04:22,275
So we packed ours
cameras on to see

1514
01:04:22,275 --> 01:04:24,610
whether he knew what Nazareth
really means.

1515
01:04:24,610 --> 01:04:26,112
DR. ROBERT EISENMAN -
BIBLICAL SCHOLAR, ARCHEOLOGIST

1516
01:04:26,112 --> 01:04:29,699
Why can't we have a solid one?
historical records

1517
01:04:29,699 --> 01:04:31,158
about Nazareth?

1518
01:04:31,158 --> 01:04:34,120
- Nazareth is not a city in Palestine,

1519
01:04:34,120 --> 01:04:36,289
about which we know in the
sources can find something.

1520
01:04:36,289 --> 01:04:39,959
The term Jesus from
Nazareth is originally from

1521
01:04:39,959 --> 01:04:43,296
from Hebrew and
doesn't describe where he came from,

1522
01:04:43,296 --> 01:04:47,550
but what he was: Jesus the Nazarene,

1523
01:04:47,550 --> 01:04:49,635
a movement,

1524
01:04:49,635 --> 01:04:54,098
who are against the of the
Temple built by the Romans.

1525
01:04:54,098 --> 01:04:57,059
- [Kip] So it doesn't work
about where he comes from.

1526
01:04:57,977 --> 01:05:00,187
- [Robert] It doesn't work
about where he comes from,

1527
01:05:00,187 --> 01:05:02,023
but about who he is.

1528
01:05:02,023 --> 01:05:04,775
JESUS THE NAZARENE

1529
01:05:06,152 --> 01:05:08,779
- [Kip] Apparently this one was
Nazarene movement

1530
01:05:08,779 --> 01:05:11,282
against the temple in
historical records

1531
01:05:11,282 --> 01:05:14,702
well documented even before Jesus.

1532
01:05:14,702 --> 01:05:16,162
And we asked ourselves

1533
01:05:16,162 --> 01:05:17,788
- [Interviewer] Do these Nazarenes

1534
01:05:17,788 --> 01:05:20,708
ever killed or eaten animals?

1535
01:05:20,708 --> 01:05:22,460
- I don't think that killing

1536
01:05:22,460 --> 01:05:25,463
belonged to the life of these righteous people.

1537
01:05:25,463 --> 01:05:27,381
Although I'm not a vegetarian,

1538
01:05:27,381 --> 01:05:28,966
but I don't kill myself either,

1539
01:05:28,966 --> 01:05:31,969
so that I can protect myself from everyone
can push responsibility,

1540
01:05:31,969 --> 01:05:33,596
but of course it is hypocrisy.

1541
01:05:33,596 --> 01:05:37,058
However, I don't think
that people like James

1542
01:05:37,058 --> 01:05:40,603
or Jesus or that kind of
righteous animals have killed,

1543
01:05:40,603 --> 01:05:42,855
if they avoid it
could, and I don't think so

1544
01:05:42,855 --> 01:05:44,106
that they had done it.

1545
01:05:44,106 --> 01:05:45,608
- [Interviewer] Not even for dinner?

1546
01:05:45,608 --> 01:05:46,734
- Of course they didn't eat animals,

1547
01:05:46,734 --> 01:05:48,235
if they didn't kill animals,

1548
01:05:48,235 --> 01:05:50,738
neither did they eat animals,
that is obvious.

1549
01:05:50,738 --> 01:05:52,740
- [Kip] That was for us
not obvious.

1550
01:05:52,740 --> 01:05:54,825
But Dr. Eisenman showed us

1551
01:05:54,825 --> 01:05:56,452
that this Nazarene movement,

1552
01:05:56,452 --> 01:05:58,871
to which Jesus seemed to belong,

1553
01:05:58,871 --> 01:06:02,166
did not sacrifice animals or eat meat,

1554
01:06:02,166 --> 01:06:05,336
because they are different from others
movements at this time

1555
01:06:05,336 --> 01:06:07,213
distinguished by the fact that they were the commandment

1556
01:06:07,213 --> 01:06:10,967
"Thou shalt not kill"
extended to animals.

1557
01:06:10,967 --> 01:06:12,343
- Seven-eighths of the people,

1558
01:06:12,343 --> 01:06:13,719
who deal with this matter

1559
01:06:13,719 --> 01:06:15,846
and teach others,
who don't know anything about it,

1560
01:06:15,846 --> 01:06:17,431
just repeat things

1561
01:06:17,431 --> 01:06:19,684
which they from others
people have learned.

1562
01:06:19,684 --> 01:06:20,685
None of what I've learned

1563
01:06:20,685 --> 01:06:23,521
I got it from someone
learned from other things, period.

1564
01:06:23,521 --> 01:06:25,690
I was inspired by literature
taught himself.

1565
01:06:27,900 --> 01:06:30,236
- So this guy keeps chasing me.

1566
01:06:30,236 --> 01:06:32,905
This is about the fourth time,

1567
01:06:32,905 --> 01:06:35,282
that I look back and see the guy.

1568
01:06:39,245 --> 01:06:40,079
What's that supposed to mean?

1569
01:06:45,126 --> 01:06:46,836
This is super scary.

1570
01:06:46,836 --> 01:06:48,713
As things came to a head,

1571
01:06:48,713 --> 01:06:50,923
I commissioned one
Private detective to find out

1572
01:06:50,923 --> 01:06:53,467
whether the industry or the
government persecuted me.

1573
01:06:55,386 --> 01:06:57,471
In the meantime we had the feeling

1574
01:06:57,471 --> 01:07:00,516
that we are experts for
the historical Jesus

1575
01:07:00,516 --> 01:07:02,143
and the Nazarene
Had to find movement.

1576
01:07:03,060 --> 01:07:06,272
- What facts do we know about Jesus,

1577
01:07:06,272 --> 01:07:07,440
where all scholars,

1578
01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:09,525
Christians and non-Christians agree

1579
01:07:09,525 --> 01:07:11,402
that they actually took place?

1580
01:07:11,402 --> 01:07:14,530
One is his baptism
through John the Baptist,

1581
01:07:14,530 --> 01:07:17,074
the second is an incident in the temple

1582
01:07:17,074 --> 01:07:19,785
and the third is his crucifixion.

1583
01:07:19,785 --> 01:07:21,162
John the Baptist

1584
01:07:21,162 --> 01:07:24,999
is the leader of the
Jesus movement before Jesus.

1585
01:07:24,999 --> 01:07:26,709
Both the Gospel of the Ebionites

1586
01:07:26,709 --> 01:07:28,419
and Josephus agree that

1587
01:07:28,419 --> 01:07:29,587
that John the Baptist

1588
01:07:29,587 --> 01:07:31,547
only eats plant-based food.

1589
01:07:31,547 --> 01:07:32,965
John the Baptist

1590
01:07:32,965 --> 01:07:34,592
so definitely has
didn't eat any meat.

1591
01:07:34,592 --> 01:07:37,470
And Jesus and John
the Baptists are cousins.

1592
01:07:37,470 --> 01:07:39,847
Jesus simply leads them
Family tradition continues.

1593
01:07:39,847 --> 01:07:41,891
And all the people in this family

1594
01:07:41,891 --> 01:07:43,350
appear to be vegetarians.

1595
01:07:43,350 --> 01:07:46,437
- It is reported from Matthew,
that he was a vegetarian.

1596
01:07:46,437 --> 01:07:49,065
Peter is reported to have
that he is a vegetarian.

1597
01:07:49,065 --> 01:07:50,816
Epiphanius reports,

1598
01:07:50,816 --> 01:07:53,194
that the entire Nazarene movement

1599
01:07:53,194 --> 01:07:56,072
was a vegetarian in the fourth century.

1600
01:07:56,072 --> 01:07:57,698
And as Epiphanius

1601
01:07:57,698 --> 01:07:59,992
spoke to one of the Nazarenes personally,

1602
01:08:00,993 --> 01:08:04,330
said this Nazarene
the question of Epiphanius,

1603
01:08:04,330 --> 01:08:06,123
why he is a vegetarian

1604
01:08:06,123 --> 01:08:07,708
the Nasaraene answered,

1605
01:08:07,708 --> 01:08:10,961
because Jesus taught us to be vegetarians.

1606
01:08:13,506 --> 01:08:15,633
- Did Jesus eat animals?

1607
01:08:16,467 --> 01:08:17,301
He certainly ate fish.

1608
01:08:17,301 --> 01:08:18,594
- If you want to know exactly:

1609
01:08:18,594 --> 01:08:20,763
Peter and Jesus ate fish.

1610
01:08:20,763 --> 01:08:23,224
- Oh, the fish stories, yes.

1611
01:08:23,224 --> 01:08:25,017
Well, the problem with the fish stories

1612
01:08:25,017 --> 01:08:27,978
about feeding the 5,000
and 4,000 through Jesus,

1613
01:08:27,978 --> 01:08:31,941
that the earliest sources that
Miracle of the loaves and fishes

1614
01:08:31,941 --> 01:08:33,901
describe as the miracle of the bread,

1615
01:08:33,901 --> 01:08:36,028
without even mentioning the fish.

1616
01:08:36,028 --> 01:08:38,906
And even Jesus himself says
in his retelling:

1617
01:08:38,906 --> 01:08:39,907
"Don't you remember

1618
01:08:39,907 --> 01:08:42,409
like me, miraculously
multiplied all the loaves?"

1619
01:08:42,409 --> 01:08:44,370
He doesn't mention the fish at all.

1620
01:08:44,370 --> 01:08:46,205
- [Kip] In these
Stories are the words

1621
01:08:46,205 --> 01:08:47,039
which are used for fish,

1622
01:08:47,039 --> 01:08:49,208
actually a mistranslation

1623
01:08:49,208 --> 01:08:52,545
like the Greek ichthus,
that also a secret symbol

1624
01:08:52,545 --> 01:08:57,174
is for Jesus, and Phosphagion,
what a spice actually

1625
01:08:57,174 --> 01:08:59,468
or something that is on bread
being eaten means.

1626
01:08:59,468 --> 01:09:01,929
In another story
in the Gospel of John

1627
01:09:01,929 --> 01:09:04,140
Jesus helps his disciples
miraculously,

1628
01:09:04,140 --> 01:09:06,767
153 fish to catch

1629
01:09:06,767 --> 01:09:09,103
but then he tells them,
they should follow him

1630
01:09:09,103 --> 01:09:11,689
and become fishers of men instead.

1631
01:09:11,689 --> 01:09:15,401
Almost exactly the same story
will be 500 years earlier

1632
01:09:15,401 --> 01:09:18,070
told by Pythagoras,
the one with some fishermen

1633
01:09:18,070 --> 01:09:19,697
makes a bet:
If he succeeds,

1634
01:09:19,697 --> 01:09:22,074
the number of fish in
to guess their nets,

1635
01:09:22,074 --> 01:09:23,450
they have to release them.

1636
01:09:23,450 --> 01:09:24,618
You agree to the terms and conditions

1637
01:09:24,618 --> 01:09:26,620
and are shocked when Pythagoras

1638
01:09:26,620 --> 01:09:28,330
guesses the exact number of fish.

1639
01:09:28,330 --> 01:09:30,791
And the exact number in
the Jesus story,

1640
01:09:30,791 --> 01:09:35,796
153, is the ratio height
the Vesica Piscis.

1641
01:09:35,796 --> 01:09:38,257
This symbol comes from Pythagoras,

1642
01:09:38,257 --> 01:09:39,758
who was a vegetarian all his life

1643
01:09:39,758 --> 01:09:42,678
and vehemently opposed it
pronounced animal sacrifice.

1644
01:09:42,678 --> 01:09:46,181
- If we understand
want to know where Jesus came from,

1645
01:09:46,181 --> 01:09:48,934
we have to listen to the lessons
of Pythagoras.

1646
01:09:48,934 --> 01:09:51,437
These are vegetarianism, pacifism

1647
01:09:51,437 --> 01:09:54,064
and sense of community that goes into teaching

1648
01:09:54,064 --> 01:09:57,443
the Essenes and Nazarenes flowed in,

1649
01:09:57,443 --> 01:09:58,819
in which Jesus grew up.

1650
01:09:58,819 --> 01:10:00,821
- [Kip] And it turned out
found out that Pythagoras

1651
01:10:00,821 --> 01:10:02,156
was a contemporary of the Buddha,

1652
01:10:02,156 --> 01:10:05,075
and there the Buddha too
was against animal sacrifice

1653
01:10:05,075 --> 01:10:08,537
and was trained in yoga,
we had to look at it.

1654
01:10:08,537 --> 01:10:13,208
- Yoga is union with the self.

1655
01:10:13,208 --> 01:10:17,755
A part of the life of
all of us in this room,

1656
01:10:17,755 --> 01:10:19,882
including this one
two Chihuahuas here

1657
01:10:19,882 --> 01:10:23,135
on my lap, that is
The self that is in all of us.

1658
01:10:23,135 --> 01:10:25,930
These girls only ride Chihuahua bodies.

1659
01:10:25,930 --> 01:10:28,515
I just drive by chance
a human body.

1660
01:10:28,515 --> 01:10:30,726
That's not a big difference.

1661
01:10:30,726 --> 01:10:33,395
- The path to happiness is pretty clear.

1662
01:10:33,395 --> 01:10:35,147
Do everything you can,

1663
01:10:35,147 --> 01:10:37,983
to promote happiness in the lives of others.

1664
01:10:37,983 --> 01:10:40,361
The Yamas determine

1665
01:10:40,361 --> 01:10:42,488
how you treat others
should behave towards.

1666
01:10:42,488 --> 01:10:47,034
Basically that's what the
Buddha teaches what Jesus teaches,

1667
01:10:47,034 --> 01:10:49,119
that we are all connected.

1668
01:10:49,119 --> 01:10:50,746
- [Kip] We had an epiphany.

1669
01:10:50,746 --> 01:10:53,457
If you follow the commandments of
Yoga, Buddhism,

1670
01:10:53,457 --> 01:10:55,334
of Christianity, Islam

1671
01:10:55,334 --> 01:10:58,587
and Judaism side by side,

1672
01:10:58,587 --> 01:11:01,382
are they essentially the same thing,

1673
01:11:01,382 --> 01:11:03,050
and they all start with

1674
01:11:03,050 --> 01:11:05,344
that you don't have others
to hurt or kill.

1675
01:11:05,344 --> 01:11:07,221
Nevertheless, they seem to be
all these religions

1676
01:11:07,221 --> 01:11:08,806
to contradict,

1677
01:11:08,806 --> 01:11:10,933
when it comes to sacrificing animals.

1678
01:11:10,933 --> 01:11:13,227
Even Jesus, the temple priests

1679
01:11:13,227 --> 01:11:16,939
more of a den of thieves than
called murderer or manslayer,

1680
01:11:16,939 --> 01:11:19,108
seemed perhaps more about the money

1681
01:11:19,108 --> 01:11:21,193
than to worry about the killing.

1682
01:11:21,193 --> 01:11:23,821
So that was the animal sacrifice
the answer to the question,

1683
01:11:23,821 --> 01:11:25,656
how to kill animals spiritually?

1684
01:11:25,656 --> 01:11:28,492
If only we were in the...
could travel back in time.

1685
01:11:28,492 --> 01:11:30,244
Maybe Jesus didn't have a problem

1686
01:11:30,244 --> 01:11:33,664
with ceremonial animal sacrifices.

1687
01:11:33,664 --> 01:11:36,542
At that moment sent
us Altab an email,

1688
01:11:36,542 --> 01:11:39,128
in which he informed us that
the largest animal sacrifice in the world

1689
01:11:39,128 --> 01:11:41,714
in Gadhimai Temple
would take place again.

1690
01:11:41,714 --> 01:11:43,882
Despite the ban
the Supreme Court

1691
01:11:43,882 --> 01:11:46,927
smuggled trucks
still thousands of cows,

1692
01:11:46,927 --> 01:11:49,805
those of priests in the temple
should be sacrificed,

1693
01:11:49,805 --> 01:11:51,515
but there were activists who tried

1694
01:11:51,515 --> 01:11:53,475
to prevent the victim,

1695
01:11:53,475 --> 01:11:56,395
led by activist Manoj Gautam.

1696
01:11:56,395 --> 01:11:57,229
- It looks like this

1697
01:11:57,229 --> 01:11:59,773
as if the Gadhimai sacrifices
take place again.

1698
01:11:59,773 --> 01:12:01,900
The temple did not keep its word.

1699
01:12:01,900 --> 01:12:03,694
And we only have 48 hours,

1700
01:12:03,694 --> 01:12:07,448
around the colonel's doors
to reopen the court.

1701
01:12:07,448 --> 01:12:09,700
And these 48 hours will
be very crucial.

1702
01:12:09,700 --> 01:12:10,909
If you're thinking of coming,

1703
01:12:10,909 --> 01:12:12,369
then this is it now
right time for it.

1704
01:12:19,626 --> 01:12:20,878
Well, we just have
received a message.

1705
01:12:20,878 --> 01:12:21,879
It says,

1706
01:12:21,879 --> 01:12:24,923
that already 900 buffalo calves
were collected.

1707
01:12:24,923 --> 01:12:27,551
Time is running, the number of animals is increasing

1708
01:12:27,551 --> 01:12:28,802
and it will continue to rise,

1709
01:12:28,802 --> 01:12:30,554
the closer the beginning of the sacrifice comes.

1710
01:12:30,554 --> 01:12:32,639
But we hardly have any time left.

1711
01:12:32,639 --> 01:12:34,099
- [Kip] Manoj signed documents,

1712
01:12:34,099 --> 01:12:36,143
about the temple committee and the government

1713
01:12:36,143 --> 01:12:37,478
to sue in the Supreme Court,

1714
01:12:37,478 --> 01:12:39,563
so that animal sacrifices can be stopped.

1715
01:12:41,106 --> 01:12:42,691
- [Manoj] Yes, I have
in the last 11 years

1716
01:12:42,691 --> 01:12:46,070
worked on it and would like to
that it's finally over.

1717
01:12:46,070 --> 01:12:47,738
- [Kip] But his application in court,

1718
01:12:47,738 --> 01:12:51,033
the temple sacrifices
stop, was rejected.

1719
01:12:51,033 --> 01:12:52,076
- [Manoj] It looks like this
as if the government

1720
01:12:52,076 --> 01:12:53,702
works with the temple committee.

1721
01:12:53,702 --> 01:12:55,079
Here too, our hope lies in

1722
01:12:55,079 --> 01:12:57,247
to make the media aware

1723
01:12:57,247 --> 01:12:58,749
with which we sacrifice

1724
01:12:58,749 --> 01:13:00,626
hopefully we can prevent it.

1725
01:13:00,626 --> 01:13:03,921
It's a question that
Media people like you at the Guardian

1726
01:13:03,921 --> 01:13:06,590
these government representatives
should put:

1727
01:13:06,590 --> 01:13:08,801
What kind of company
do you want to create?

1728
01:13:08,801 --> 01:13:10,052
What kind of religion?

1729
01:13:10,052 --> 01:13:13,097
What kind of religious
Do you want to create practices?

1730
01:13:13,097 --> 01:13:14,264
A practice of violence, a practice,

1731
01:13:14,264 --> 01:13:15,390
in which activists are killed?

1732
01:13:15,390 --> 01:13:16,350
I was recently attacked, and everything,

1733
01:13:16,350 --> 01:13:18,185
what she is at this moment
want is my blood.

1734
01:13:18,185 --> 01:13:19,311
What else do they want?

1735
01:13:19,311 --> 01:13:21,146
That I die, that I am killed?

1736
01:13:21,146 --> 01:13:22,773
Do they want us to?
be crucified now?

1737
01:13:22,773 --> 01:13:23,941
I would like to repeat this.

1738
01:13:23,941 --> 01:13:26,110
Do they want us to?
Activists to be crucified?

1739
01:13:27,069 --> 01:13:29,988
In one of the Vedas, the
founding writings of Hinduism,

1740
01:13:29,988 --> 01:13:32,491
it says when you go through
killing animals,

1741
01:13:32,491 --> 01:13:35,411
through consumption of
tears and blood of animals,

1742
01:13:35,411 --> 01:13:37,204
by chopping down trees

1743
01:13:37,204 --> 01:13:41,166
and the destruction of
forms of life go to heaven,

1744
01:13:41,166 --> 01:13:43,335
then how do you get to hell?

1745
01:13:45,045 --> 01:13:47,464
- [Kip] Manoj was worried,
that he could be killed,

1746
01:13:47,464 --> 01:13:48,924
when he goes to Gadhimai.

1747
01:13:48,924 --> 01:13:50,759
So he asked if we
could risk it,

1748
01:13:50,759 --> 01:13:52,719
as undercover press
go to document

1749
01:13:52,719 --> 01:13:55,806
whether the animals are sacrificed or not.

1750
01:13:55,806 --> 01:13:59,309
We arrived in the midst of four
millions of Hindu followers,

1751
01:13:59,309 --> 01:14:01,478
who carried animals for sacrifice,

1752
01:14:01,478 --> 01:14:04,273
and Manoj brought us along
an undercover activist

1753
01:14:04,273 --> 01:14:06,525
called DeepJay who tried

1754
01:14:06,525 --> 01:14:09,570
to prevent the sacrifice at Ground Zero.

1755
01:14:09,570 --> 01:14:12,573
- There are some people from
Gadhimai Temple Committee,

1756
01:14:12,573 --> 01:14:17,578
who don't want us to be here.

1757
01:14:20,289 --> 01:14:23,542
- Do you believe it
is risky out there?

1758
01:14:23,542 --> 01:14:25,461
- Oh yeah, definitely.

1759
01:14:25,461 --> 01:14:27,629
The temple committee has
a bounty on Manoj

1760
01:14:27,629 --> 01:14:29,882
and exposed us,
when we come here,

1761
01:14:29,882 --> 01:14:31,967
to kill us.

1762
01:14:31,967 --> 01:14:34,261
Maybe we should get the camera now

1763
01:14:34,261 --> 01:14:35,304
take away from our face.

1764
01:14:43,353 --> 01:14:46,064
This is the pit in which
they all bury their heads,

1765
01:14:46,064 --> 01:14:47,441
when they chop the animals.

1766
01:14:48,817 --> 01:14:50,527
- [Kip] We have fake ones
press outfits used,

1767
01:14:50,527 --> 01:14:53,614
to go to private
to reach the priest area.

1768
01:14:53,614 --> 01:14:56,492
When the priest at 5:00
in the morning decides

1769
01:14:56,492 --> 01:15:00,496
these first five animals too
kill, a cow, a goat,

1770
01:15:00,496 --> 01:15:02,748
a pig, a chicken and a rat,

1771
01:15:02,748 --> 01:15:04,875
Only then does the sacrifice begin

1772
01:15:04,875 --> 01:15:08,170
of thousands of cows
on the temple grounds.

1773
01:15:10,631 --> 01:15:11,465
- [Interviewer] So we heard

1774
01:15:11,465 --> 01:15:13,800
that the sacrifice perhaps
not taking place?

1775
01:15:13,800 --> 01:15:16,511
- You didn't ask us to
to completely refrain from

1776
01:15:16,511 --> 01:15:19,681
because it is with our tradition

1777
01:15:19,681 --> 01:15:22,434
and the Hindu
Custom related.

1778
01:15:22,434 --> 01:15:24,311
- [Interviewer] What do you say
someone who is in America

1779
01:15:24,311 --> 01:15:25,896
if he says this is wrong?

1780
01:15:27,022 --> 01:15:28,690
- Compared to Christians,

1781
01:15:28,690 --> 01:15:30,692
who celebrate Thanksgiving,

1782
01:15:30,692 --> 01:15:33,487
there are billions of turkeys,

1783
01:15:33,487 --> 01:15:36,782
the one just a few ago
were slaughtered for months

1784
01:15:36,782 --> 01:15:38,617
so it is their tradition.

1785
01:15:38,617 --> 01:15:40,911
This is ours as Hindus.

1786
01:15:42,621 --> 01:15:44,081
- All right, so it's after six.

1787
01:15:44,081 --> 01:15:45,082
An hour ago

1788
01:15:45,082 --> 01:15:46,917
should be the first five
Animals are slaughtered

1789
01:15:46,917 --> 01:15:48,627
and they haven't done it yet.

1790
01:15:54,132 --> 01:15:56,343
- [Kip] Shortly after
the military showed up,

1791
01:15:56,343 --> 01:15:58,595
to end the sacrifice,

1792
01:16:00,931 --> 01:16:03,100
At least that's what we thought.

1793
01:16:49,396 --> 01:16:50,647
And then we realized

1794
01:16:50,647 --> 01:16:53,025
that this like a
Insight into what is happening

1795
01:16:53,025 --> 01:16:56,403
in the Temple of Jerusalem
was 2,000 years ago.

1796
01:16:56,403 --> 01:16:58,822
The temple guards, the military

1797
01:16:58,822 --> 01:17:01,658
and the government had each other
allied with the priests

1798
01:17:01,658 --> 01:17:04,328
and killed animals in exchange for money.

1799
01:17:05,829 --> 01:17:09,541
As the cow sacrifices in that
barricaded temple began,

1800
01:17:09,541 --> 01:17:11,376
they demanded that
we stop filming

1801
01:17:32,314 --> 01:17:34,316
- Because of the order
of the Supreme Court

1802
01:17:34,316 --> 01:17:37,861
probably not all of them will
Cows are sacrificed.

1803
01:17:45,035 --> 01:17:47,329
- [Colleague] We believe
that at worst

1804
01:17:47,329 --> 01:17:50,540
around 20% are slaughtered.
- Wow, wow.

1805
01:17:50,540 --> 01:17:51,375
Wow.

1806
01:18:19,736 --> 01:18:22,197
- [Kip] It became clear to me
that we may never

1807
01:18:22,197 --> 01:18:23,949
find a spiritual path
to kill an animal.

1808
01:18:24,783 --> 01:18:27,661
I felt terrible
and it felt wrong,

1809
01:18:27,661 --> 01:18:30,539
just stand there and
not to do anything for the animals,

1810
01:18:30,539 --> 01:18:32,541
but it also felt
wrong to get involved

1811
01:18:32,541 --> 01:18:34,835
and the religion of one
to disrespect others.

1812
01:18:35,794 --> 01:18:37,796
- [Speaker] Compared to Christians,

1813
01:18:37,796 --> 01:18:39,464
who celebrate Thanksgiving,
just a few months ago

1814
01:18:39,464 --> 01:18:43,260
were millions of
Turkeys slaughtered.

1815
01:18:43,260 --> 01:18:45,429
- [Kip] All of this pales in comparison

1816
01:18:45,429 --> 01:18:47,556
to the 46 million turkeys,

1817
01:18:47,556 --> 01:18:50,016
that we kill every year for Thanksgiving,

1818
01:18:50,016 --> 01:18:52,144
and the almost 16 million pigs,

1819
01:18:52,144 --> 01:18:53,979
that we eat at Christmas

1820
01:18:53,979 --> 01:18:56,481
about, ironically, birth
to celebrate by someone

1821
01:18:56,481 --> 01:19:00,152
who may never be an animal
killed or eaten.

1822
01:19:00,152 --> 01:19:03,488
When we saw that, we felt
forced us more than ever

1823
01:19:03,488 --> 01:19:07,242
find out what Jesus
really did in the temple,

1824
01:19:07,242 --> 01:19:09,119
which led to his crucifixion.

1825
01:19:12,164 --> 01:19:14,040
This is what I find at home.

1826
01:19:14,040 --> 01:19:16,710
My apartment was completely ransacked

1827
01:19:16,710 --> 01:19:19,379
everything is ransacked, but
nothing was taken.

1828
01:19:19,379 --> 01:19:22,048
They even did so on purpose
Things like expensive equipment

1829
01:19:22,048 --> 01:19:23,341
and phones laid down to say:

1830
01:19:23,341 --> 01:19:24,843
"Hey, we're not
here to steal something,

1831
01:19:24,843 --> 01:19:26,344
but to scare you."

1832
01:19:26,344 --> 01:19:27,179
My camera bag,

1833
01:19:27,179 --> 01:19:29,014
equipment worth $10,000,

1834
01:19:29,014 --> 01:19:29,973
was found two blocks away.

1835
01:19:29,973 --> 01:19:32,726
- [Came] I just got to my bus

1836
01:19:32,726 --> 01:19:36,897
and had to realize that
he had been broken into,

1837
01:19:36,897 --> 01:19:38,899
but nothing valuable was stolen.

1838
01:19:38,899 --> 01:19:40,692
The only thing they took with them

1839
01:19:40,692 --> 01:19:41,985
were my memory cards.

1840
01:19:42,861 --> 01:19:44,070
- [Kip] I got it right away

1841
01:19:44,070 --> 01:19:45,238
with a private detective
contacted,

1842
01:19:45,238 --> 01:19:46,531
who we hired and he said,

1843
01:19:46,531 --> 01:19:48,909
I should meet him immediately.

1844
01:19:48,909 --> 01:19:50,368
- Well, you have the industry
definitely scared.

1845
01:19:50,368 --> 01:19:51,828
We have 80 pages of documents,

1846
01:19:51,828 --> 01:19:52,996
which we receive through our inquiries

1847
01:19:52,996 --> 01:19:54,331
according to the Freedom of
Information Act received

1848
01:19:54,331 --> 01:19:56,750
and they show that
USDA's Beef Board Your Films

1849
01:19:56,750 --> 01:19:58,293
identified as a potential crisis,

1850
01:19:58,293 --> 01:20:00,545
protected from and against
which must be defended.

1851
01:20:00,545 --> 01:20:02,047
The lobbyists for the big ranchers

1852
01:20:02,047 --> 01:20:04,633
and their allies in the
Government really do everything

1853
01:20:04,633 --> 01:20:06,009
to closely monitor your films,

1854
01:20:06,009 --> 01:20:07,719
monitoring your social media

1855
01:20:07,719 --> 01:20:08,762
to follow your performances

1856
01:20:08,762 --> 01:20:10,680
and sometimes even yours
to prevent demonstrations.

1857
01:20:10,680 --> 01:20:12,641
We are talking about one of the most powerful

1858
01:20:12,641 --> 01:20:14,434
and most profitable industries in the world,

1859
01:20:14,434 --> 01:20:17,771
those over 70 every year
Kills billions of animals.

1860
01:20:17,771 --> 01:20:20,482
If your movies the views
of people over animals

1861
01:20:20,482 --> 01:20:21,817
and our treatment
of animals,

1862
01:20:21,817 --> 01:20:23,735
you will be in their
Eyes to a threat

1863
01:20:23,735 --> 01:20:24,778
and the industry will try

1864
01:20:24,778 --> 01:20:26,279
to neutralize this threat.

1865
01:20:32,160 --> 01:20:34,454
- [Kip] We were wondering
whether it was worth the risk

1866
01:20:34,454 --> 01:20:35,580
to make the film.

1867
01:20:38,250 --> 01:20:40,210
But after some thought we knew

1868
01:20:40,210 --> 01:20:44,172
that despite all the threats
greatest risk would be

1869
01:20:44,172 --> 01:20:47,592
for fear of remaining silent and the
story not to be told.

1870
01:20:50,679 --> 01:20:52,639
- Look here, remember
Remember the prophecy

1871
01:20:52,639 --> 01:20:53,890
about the sacrifice of the red cow.

1872
01:20:53,890 --> 01:20:55,892
It looks like
could she be the cause

1873
01:20:55,892 --> 01:20:58,270
for the recent conflict
to be in the Holy Land

1874
01:20:58,270 --> 01:20:59,938
and nobody talks about it.

1875
01:20:59,938 --> 01:21:01,356
weeks before the attack

1876
01:21:01,356 --> 01:21:03,400
announced the Jewish Temple Institute,

1877
01:21:03,400 --> 01:21:07,612
that after 2,000 years one
flawless red cow was born

1878
01:21:07,612 --> 01:21:10,949
and paid $250,000 for the cows

1879
01:21:10,949 --> 01:21:13,910
from a Texas rancher
to fly to Jerusalem.

1880
01:21:13,910 --> 01:21:16,746
And immediately afterwards claimed
the Middle East Monitor,

1881
01:21:16,746 --> 01:21:19,499
Israel's red cow will be the one
cause unrest in the region.

1882
01:21:21,960 --> 01:21:24,004
Hamas said:
Trigger for the attack

1883
01:21:24,004 --> 01:21:26,923
the concern was that
this prophetic cow sacrifice

1884
01:21:26,923 --> 01:21:29,634
would lead to the
to demolish the Islamic Dome of the Rock,

1885
01:21:29,634 --> 01:21:30,927
around the path for construction

1886
01:21:30,927 --> 01:21:32,345
of the new Jewish temple.

1887
01:21:32,345 --> 01:21:35,890
And the Temple website
Institute even confirms this,

1888
01:21:35,890 --> 01:21:40,520
as well as the plan of animal sacrifice
reintroduce in the temple,

1889
01:21:40,520 --> 01:21:42,147
just like in Jesus' time.

1890
01:21:42,147 --> 01:21:44,190
We have to deal with this
Texas ranchers talk,

1891
01:21:44,190 --> 01:21:45,859
who shipped the red cow.

1892
01:21:46,902 --> 01:21:50,822
- The temple is the pivot
and pivotal point of the conflict,

1893
01:21:50,822 --> 01:21:51,698
that is certain,

1894
01:21:51,698 --> 01:21:53,992
and the red cows are the beginning of it.

1895
01:21:53,992 --> 01:21:55,911
- [Came] So you're saying that
the sacrifice of the red cows

1896
01:21:55,911 --> 01:21:57,287
could trigger something bigger?

1897
01:21:57,287 --> 01:21:58,705
- Well, I'm telling you,

1898
01:21:58,705 --> 01:22:03,084
today we are a third party
World War closer than yesterday

1899
01:22:03,084 --> 01:22:05,128
and tomorrow we will be even closer

1900
01:22:05,128 --> 01:22:07,297
and he will come, period.

1901
01:22:19,059 --> 01:22:22,228
FATHER MUNRO - I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING

1902
01:22:24,481 --> 01:22:26,983
I HAVE ABOUT THE MOVIE
WHAT YOU'RE WORKING ON.

1903
01:22:26,983 --> 01:22:28,860
YOU WILL WANT TO TALK TO ME.

1904
01:22:28,860 --> 01:22:31,571
I ONLY TALK ABOUT IT WHEN
LET'S MEET IN PERSON.

1905
01:22:35,325 --> 01:22:38,370
- If you go against the
turn mainstream beliefs,

1906
01:22:38,370 --> 01:22:40,288
especially against
religious beliefs,

1907
01:22:40,288 --> 01:22:42,123
you have to expect
that you are threatened.

1908
01:22:42,123 --> 01:22:45,210
The Humanitarian Church
is constantly under attack,

1909
01:22:45,210 --> 01:22:48,129
be it through verbal attacks,
through attacks on the Internet

1910
01:22:48,129 --> 01:22:50,715
or by people breaking in,
without stealing anything,

1911
01:22:50,715 --> 01:22:52,425
and just rip out the power,

1912
01:22:52,425 --> 01:22:54,594
thus the Sunday service
cannot take place.

1913
01:22:54,594 --> 01:22:56,346
I get harassed out there all the time.

1914
01:22:56,346 --> 01:22:58,390
You know my schedule,
They know when I'm leaving

1915
01:22:58,390 --> 01:23:01,976
and when I come back,
they stop at nothing,

1916
01:23:01,976 --> 01:23:04,562
to prevent the
Truth comes to light.

1917
01:23:04,562 --> 01:23:06,648
The church will tell you
that it is in history

1918
01:23:06,648 --> 01:23:09,359
from the den of thieves around it
went that Jesus Christ

1919
01:23:09,359 --> 01:23:11,778
overturned the money changer's table.

1920
01:23:11,778 --> 01:23:12,821
But that is not the case.

1921
01:23:12,821 --> 01:23:15,699
The truth of the story
is that Jesus Christ

1922
01:23:15,699 --> 01:23:18,993
all evil in one fell swoop,

1923
01:23:18,993 --> 01:23:20,245
the oppression of people

1924
01:23:20,245 --> 01:23:23,832
and the construct of
war at its root.

1925
01:23:23,832 --> 01:23:27,460
He was crucified because he
disturbed the culture of the time,

1926
01:23:27,460 --> 01:23:29,921
which consisted of animals
to kill for profit

1927
01:23:29,921 --> 01:23:31,798
and to eat them.

1928
01:23:31,798 --> 01:23:33,091
- [Interviewer] But if that's true,

1929
01:23:33,091 --> 01:23:36,428
then why did Jesus call them thieves?

1930
01:23:36,428 --> 01:23:38,680
- And he knocked over their tables.

1931
01:23:38,680 --> 01:23:41,391
- He cried: You have my father's house

1932
01:23:41,391 --> 01:23:43,435
turned into a den of thieves.
- A den of thieves.

1933
01:23:43,435 --> 01:23:44,769
- Well, then he wouldn't have

1934
01:23:44,769 --> 01:23:46,563
to drive away all animals.

1935
01:23:46,563 --> 01:23:49,441
- He drove them out of the temple,

1936
01:23:49,441 --> 01:23:51,401
Cattle, sheep and everything else.

1937
01:23:51,401 --> 01:23:53,611
- Jesus would not allow anyone

1938
01:23:53,611 --> 01:23:55,613
to carry these animals in and out.

1939
01:23:55,613 --> 01:23:59,868
He locks the temple
for the whole day.

1940
01:23:59,868 --> 01:24:02,495
And everyone is listening to what will happen
this guy do next?

1941
01:24:06,249 --> 01:24:11,212
- What's wrong, Jesus,
why are you so angry?

1942
01:24:11,463 --> 01:24:14,549
What does he say and what's going on?

1943
01:24:15,383 --> 01:24:16,217
- [Interviewer] If it really is

1944
01:24:16,217 --> 01:24:17,927
about killing animals,

1945
01:24:17,927 --> 01:24:19,929
you probably wouldn't
call them thieves,

1946
01:24:19,929 --> 01:24:22,390
but as violent criminals or murderers.

1947
01:24:22,390 --> 01:24:25,810
- Jesus Christ has the temple

1948
01:24:25,810 --> 01:24:27,645
not really called a den of thieves.

1949
01:24:27,645 --> 01:24:30,356
Find the true translation
of the word thieves

1950
01:24:30,356 --> 01:24:33,234
and you will know
as Jesus called them.

1951
01:24:33,234 --> 01:24:36,070
- [Kip] To finally get a for
to find out every time

1952
01:24:36,070 --> 01:24:38,615
what Jesus' true intentions were,

1953
01:24:38,615 --> 01:24:42,327
when he stormed the temple, the
led to his crucifixion,

1954
01:24:42,327 --> 01:24:44,370
we have a leading one
Scholars for translation

1955
01:24:44,370 --> 01:24:46,372
of biblical Hebrew found.

1956
01:24:46,372 --> 01:24:47,207
DR DEBORAH ROOKE

1957
01:24:47,207 --> 01:24:48,833
PROF. THE TRANSLATION OF THE
HEBREW BIBLE, OXFORD

1958
01:24:48,833 --> 01:24:52,545
- He is in his last days

1959
01:24:52,545 --> 01:24:54,756
his earthly life in Jerusalem,

1960
01:24:54,756 --> 01:24:56,257
but it is quite unusual

1961
01:24:56,257 --> 01:25:01,221
that he's so out of his skin, so to speak.

1962
01:25:01,888 --> 01:25:03,097
It's like he's saying:

1963
01:25:03,097 --> 01:25:07,268
"Okay, now I can you
really show who I am."

1964
01:25:07,268 --> 01:25:11,356
and let off steam and cause chaos.

1965
01:25:11,356 --> 01:25:13,024
And he says, "That is
my father's house.

1966
01:25:13,024 --> 01:25:14,901
It should be a house of
be a prayer for all peoples,

1967
01:25:14,901 --> 01:25:17,153
but you have it in one
turned into a den of thieves."

1968
01:25:18,154 --> 01:25:19,906
- [Interviewer] So we heard

1969
01:25:19,906 --> 01:25:22,659
that he called them thieves
and now you say robbers.

1970
01:25:22,659 --> 01:25:25,411
So what is the correct one?
Hebrew translation for that,

1971
01:25:25,411 --> 01:25:27,997
what Jesus called the priests in the temple?

1972
01:25:29,958 --> 01:25:32,877
- Okay, let me have a moment
look where it says

1973
01:25:32,877 --> 01:25:34,379
and what exactly it means.

1974
01:25:38,216 --> 01:25:40,218
Yes, that's interesting.

1975
01:25:40,218 --> 01:25:42,720
Yes, you know, that is
I never noticed

1976
01:25:42,720 --> 01:25:45,390
That's kind of an eye-opener, yes.

1977
01:25:46,266 --> 01:25:48,184
- [Interviewer] And what
does the word parite mean?

1978
01:25:48,184 --> 01:25:49,769
- What pariten means.

1979
01:25:51,229 --> 01:25:52,522
Another book!

1980
01:25:52,522 --> 01:25:56,109
Well, we have to use the word parits

1981
01:25:56,109 --> 01:25:58,027
also in Hebrew
Look up the dictionary.

1982
01:26:02,699 --> 01:26:06,035
Parits, yes, someone violent.

1983
01:26:08,079 --> 01:26:09,497
- [Interviewer] And so
he called the priests,

1984
01:26:09,497 --> 01:26:11,166
who offered the sacrifice?

1985
01:26:11,166 --> 01:26:12,000
- Yes.

1986
01:26:15,503 --> 01:26:17,922
- [Interviewer] Then
so it is killing.

1987
01:26:17,922 --> 01:26:20,216
- Yes, apparently cruel.

1988
01:26:31,352 --> 01:26:34,105
- [Interviewer] He has
so not just his life

1989
01:26:34,105 --> 01:26:36,149
sacrificed for the people, but also,

1990
01:26:36,149 --> 01:26:38,818
to prevent the killing of animals.

1991
01:26:41,321 --> 01:26:42,989
- Yes, that's interesting.

1992
01:26:42,989 --> 01:26:45,283
And it certainly throws
a number of questions.

1993
01:26:47,702 --> 01:26:51,831
- On the eve of his
Crucifixion held Jesus

1994
01:26:51,831 --> 01:26:54,334
his last protest rally
off, the last supper,

1995
01:26:54,334 --> 01:26:57,837
which was supposed to be about a Passover lamb.

1996
01:26:57,837 --> 01:27:01,507
- In the Ebionite Gospel
Jesus rejects eating meat

1997
01:27:01,507 --> 01:27:03,301
specifically for Passover.

1998
01:27:03,301 --> 01:27:06,930
Jesus says I have come
to destroy the victims,

1999
01:27:06,930 --> 01:27:09,182
and if you don't stop sacrificing,

2000
01:27:09,182 --> 01:27:11,434
wrath will not depart from you.

2001
01:27:11,434 --> 01:27:15,063
- And he says this is
my flesh, this bread,

2002
01:27:15,063 --> 01:27:18,524
and this wine is, so to speak, my blood.

2003
01:27:18,524 --> 01:27:20,860
That is, that is
everything we need.

2004
01:27:20,860 --> 01:27:22,111
We don't need the lamb.

2005
01:27:22,111 --> 01:27:24,781
Let's do the things
who belong to the kingdom of God.

2006
01:27:25,990 --> 01:27:27,617
What would the planet

2007
01:27:27,617 --> 01:27:30,119
return to the state of Eden?

2008
01:27:48,680 --> 01:27:50,848
- You know, if we look closely,

2009
01:27:50,848 --> 01:27:52,266
we can get the hints

2010
01:27:52,266 --> 01:27:54,686
recognize in paintings and writings.

2011
01:27:54,686 --> 01:27:57,981
It's just easier that
to cover up the truth

2012
01:27:57,981 --> 01:27:59,774
than to talk about them.

2013
01:28:12,996 --> 01:28:15,790
- [Interviewer] How could
this truth about Jesus

2014
01:28:15,790 --> 01:28:20,420
Be covered up for 2,000 years?

2015
01:28:20,420 --> 01:28:23,589
- Because of course they
Meat eaters won.

2016
01:28:23,589 --> 01:28:25,049
As has been said many times,

2017
01:28:25,049 --> 01:28:27,260
History is the affair of the victors

2018
01:28:27,260 --> 01:28:30,888
and now we have to go
live the consequences.

2019
01:28:31,764 --> 01:28:34,225
- [Interviewer] And what
do we know about the winners?

2020
01:28:34,225 --> 01:28:35,935
- What we know is,

2021
01:28:35,935 --> 01:28:40,023
that Paul was a vehement
Was anti-vegetarian

2022
01:28:40,023 --> 01:28:43,651
and that his influence
undoubtedly the direction

2023
01:28:43,651 --> 01:28:45,194
of Christianity influenced

2024
01:28:45,194 --> 01:28:47,739
especially in the first century.

2025
01:28:47,739 --> 01:28:51,367
- Paul is a Roman
Leader of Christianity

2026
01:28:51,367 --> 01:28:53,995
spread among the masses,
who encouraged converts

2027
01:28:53,995 --> 01:28:55,747
eating meat, and
condemned the movement,

2028
01:28:55,747 --> 01:28:56,748
who didn't do that.

2029
01:28:56,748 --> 01:28:58,291
Funny, many people don't know

2030
01:28:58,291 --> 01:29:00,293
that Jesus had a brother James.

2031
01:29:00,293 --> 01:29:01,294
And why is that so?

2032
01:29:01,294 --> 01:29:03,755
We have all these additional sources,

2033
01:29:03,755 --> 01:29:05,798
the main thing is his lifestyle.

2034
01:29:05,798 --> 01:29:07,300
He didn't eat meat.

2035
01:29:07,300 --> 01:29:09,844
He lived on what grew by itself.

2036
01:29:09,844 --> 01:29:12,930
- James, brother of
Jesus, was clearly a vegetarian

2037
01:29:12,930 --> 01:29:15,850
and he was the head
the Jerusalem church.

2038
01:29:15,850 --> 01:29:18,061
- It is called the pillar of the church.

2039
01:29:18,061 --> 01:29:20,646
The so-called pillars,
says Paul, because Paul

2040
01:29:20,646 --> 01:29:23,191
wasn't necessarily always
agree with James.

2041
01:29:23,191 --> 01:29:25,401
Later James was in the temple

2042
01:29:25,401 --> 01:29:27,612
from the same band of priests
brutally murdered,

2043
01:29:27,612 --> 01:29:29,489
who also his brother
killed Jesus.

2044
01:29:29,489 --> 01:29:31,532
And then he became largely

2045
01:29:31,532 --> 01:29:33,076
deleted from the New Testament.

2046
01:29:33,076 --> 01:29:34,327
- [Rob] The church strengthened

2047
01:29:34,327 --> 01:29:35,912
the meat eater friendly ones
Writings of Paul

2048
01:29:35,912 --> 01:29:37,538
and burned the books,

2049
01:29:37,538 --> 01:29:40,208
not with their new one
doctrine agreed.

2050
01:29:40,208 --> 01:29:43,002
- We know that
Gospel of the Ebionites,

2051
01:29:43,002 --> 01:29:45,338
in which Jesus as a vegetarian
is shown,

2052
01:29:45,338 --> 01:29:47,924
was actively suppressed by the church.

2053
01:29:47,924 --> 01:29:50,551
- These texts from the followers of James,

2054
01:29:50,551 --> 01:29:53,137
the brother of Jesus, are
lost to history.

2055
01:29:53,137 --> 01:29:55,848
They were from the
overshadows what Paul wrote

2056
01:29:55,848 --> 01:29:58,518
and his writings effectively replaced

2057
01:29:58,518 --> 01:30:02,021
the original message
of Jesus and James,

2058
01:30:02,021 --> 01:30:04,690
for which they lived and died.

2059
01:30:04,690 --> 01:30:07,902
- [Rob] The remaining one
Nazarene movement was eliminated.

2060
01:30:07,902 --> 01:30:09,904
Ultimately they were all killed

2061
01:30:12,657 --> 01:30:15,576
about the dispute over the consumption of animals.

2062
01:30:15,576 --> 01:30:17,829
Just years after their leader, Jesus,

2063
01:30:17,829 --> 01:30:20,331
was crucified as a terrorist.

2064
01:30:21,332 --> 01:30:22,959
- That's why I say that he is the lamb,

2065
01:30:22,959 --> 01:30:25,461
that frees the lambs.

2066
01:30:25,461 --> 01:30:29,757
You see, the good, the good shepherd

2067
01:30:29,757 --> 01:30:32,218
lays down his life for the sheep.

2068
01:30:34,053 --> 01:30:38,141
A reversal of that
traditional shepherd practice,

2069
01:30:38,141 --> 01:30:40,977
who cares about the animals
cares and slaughters them.

2070
01:30:40,977 --> 01:30:42,520
It is the good shepherd,

2071
01:30:42,520 --> 01:30:44,230
who lays down his life for the sheep.

2072
01:30:46,357 --> 01:30:47,900
Quite a radical statement, isn't it?

2073
01:30:53,948 --> 01:30:55,908
- If Jesus is up today
would walk the earth,

2074
01:30:55,908 --> 01:30:59,245
just like he did, and
for what he did,

2075
01:30:59,245 --> 01:31:00,788
what do you think he would do?

2076
01:31:00,788 --> 01:31:02,582
♪ Is there a real one?
Way to kill an animal ♪

2077
01:31:02,582 --> 01:31:04,500
♪ The energy and the blood ♪

2078
01:31:04,500 --> 01:31:06,127
♪ To justify on the streets ♪

2079
01:31:06,127 --> 01:31:09,463
- If Jesus did the same today,

2080
01:31:09,463 --> 01:31:10,715
to go to the temple,

2081
01:31:10,715 --> 01:31:12,842
would he be considered a terrorist,

2082
01:31:12,842 --> 01:31:14,594
as a threat to public order.

2083
01:31:14,594 --> 01:31:16,429
♪ Religious doctrine has
never made a profit ♪

2084
01:31:16,429 --> 01:31:18,806
♪ Souls of the innocent
Creation are adopted ♪

2085
01:31:18,806 --> 01:31:20,141
♪ Slit the lamb's throats ♪

2086
01:31:20,141 --> 01:31:22,643
♪ You see, the nation
must prevent it ♪

2087
01:31:22,643 --> 01:31:24,520
♪ The Pharisees rent the temple ♪

2088
01:31:24,520 --> 01:31:26,856
♪ Slaughter sheep and make
an event from it ♪

2089
01:31:26,856 --> 01:31:28,024
♪ Overturn the tables ♪

2090
01:31:28,024 --> 01:31:30,359
♪ No intention of being gentle
his, that's crazy ♪

2091
01:31:30,359 --> 01:31:31,569
♪ I'm going crazy with these ♪

2092
01:31:31,569 --> 01:31:35,698
- What Jesus did was actually
an act of animal liberation.

2093
01:31:35,698 --> 01:31:38,284
♪ Unliving what, for them
Thing to bear witness ♪

2094
01:31:38,284 --> 01:31:39,577
♪ Thou shalt not kill is the law ♪

2095
01:31:39,577 --> 01:31:41,078
- WE'RE NOT GOING AWAY.
- OKAY.

2096
01:31:41,078 --> 01:31:42,788
AND ONE PAY INNOCENT
DOING DOES NOT WORK HERE.

2097
01:31:42,788 --> 01:31:45,374
♪ Den of thieves, what is it
correct way to kill an animal ♪

2098
01:31:45,374 --> 01:31:48,461
- 2004 marked that
FBI the animal rights movement

2099
01:31:48,461 --> 01:31:51,214
as the largest domestic
terrorist threat in the country,

2100
01:31:51,214 --> 01:31:52,965
although none of these movements

2101
01:31:52,965 --> 01:31:54,675
ever a single one
people in this country

2102
01:31:54,675 --> 01:31:56,552
physically hurt, never.

2103
01:31:56,552 --> 01:31:58,221
♪ Why do you have a knife, what's wrong ♪

2104
01:31:58,221 --> 01:32:00,932
♪ How can you with life
take a life in you ♪

2105
01:32:00,932 --> 01:32:01,766
♪ You caught me writing ♪

2106
01:32:01,766 --> 01:32:03,434
♪ You have Christ deep within you ♪

2107
01:32:03,434 --> 01:32:05,186
♪ How much does a soul cost, check the price ♪

2108
01:32:05,186 --> 01:32:07,188
♪ This is within you, the den of thieves ♪

2109
01:32:07,188 --> 01:32:09,232
- [Kip] After all that
we found out

2110
01:32:09,232 --> 01:32:11,525
we had the feeling that
we only had the choice,

2111
01:32:11,525 --> 01:32:13,611
to stand up and act.

2112
01:32:13,611 --> 01:32:15,947
It felt daunting
and dangerous,

2113
01:32:15,947 --> 01:32:18,616
to be considered a terrorist or
to go to prison.

2114
01:32:18,616 --> 01:32:20,451
But we pressed forward
and took part in marches

2115
01:32:20,451 --> 01:32:23,621
for the animals,
demonstrated against slaughterhouses

2116
01:32:23,621 --> 01:32:26,165
and sought out activists
from which we could learn,

2117
01:32:26,165 --> 01:32:28,751
including a terrorist,
who was awaiting trial.

2118
01:32:30,044 --> 01:32:31,587
- Hello, Kip.

2119
01:32:31,587 --> 01:32:33,422
- Is this what a terrorist looks like?

2120
01:32:33,422 --> 01:32:36,259
- Yes, apparently so,
That's what I was told.

2121
01:32:37,218 --> 01:32:40,012
I was at a particular one
open rescue operation,

2122
01:32:40,012 --> 01:32:42,682
where we come across a company in Utah

2123
01:32:42,682 --> 01:32:43,849
named Norbest became aware.

2124
01:32:43,849 --> 01:32:46,143
Your website shows an open field,

2125
01:32:46,143 --> 01:32:47,561
a beautiful bucolic environment.

2126
01:32:47,561 --> 01:32:49,647
We went there to see

2127
01:32:49,647 --> 01:32:51,399
in what condition
Turkeys actually were.

2128
01:32:51,399 --> 01:32:53,568
They were crammed together,
very desperate,

2129
01:32:53,568 --> 01:32:55,444
many of them were lying
already dead on the ground.

2130
01:32:55,444 --> 01:32:58,239
Some were clearly in
Dying and gasping for air.

2131
01:32:58,239 --> 01:32:59,824
So you put it in the
Principle misrepresented as humane.

2132
01:32:59,824 --> 01:33:01,158
You want to give people the feeling

2133
01:33:01,158 --> 01:33:03,703
that these turkeys a
live a beautiful, happy life

2134
01:33:03,703 --> 01:33:06,038
and nothing could be further from
be far from the truth.

2135
01:33:06,038 --> 01:33:08,374
We rescued three baby turkeys

2136
01:33:08,374 --> 01:33:11,627
and I helped her
to bring to safety.

2137
01:33:11,627 --> 01:33:14,422
- [Kip] And what for
Are you now accused?

2138
01:33:14,422 --> 01:33:16,716
- Felony burglary
and felonious theft.

2139
01:33:16,716 --> 01:33:19,051
And for each of these crimes
carries a maximum penalty

2140
01:33:19,051 --> 01:33:22,096
of five years, so a total of 10 years.

2141
01:33:22,096 --> 01:33:24,932
- So are you a threat?
for society?

2142
01:33:24,932 --> 01:33:28,394
- Oh man, I don't think so. .

2143
01:33:28,394 --> 01:33:29,228
I hope not.

2144
01:33:31,355 --> 01:33:32,857
- [Kip] It seemed to Diane,

2145
01:33:32,857 --> 01:33:34,233
as if their accusations were worth it,

2146
01:33:34,233 --> 01:33:36,652
if only one life
could be saved.

2147
01:33:36,652 --> 01:33:39,780
This reminded us of DeepJay
and how he did despite the threats

2148
01:33:39,780 --> 01:33:41,741
and the defeat of Gadhimai said,

2149
01:33:41,741 --> 01:33:43,409
that everything would be worth it,

2150
01:33:43,409 --> 01:33:46,412
If only he could save one life.

2151
01:33:46,412 --> 01:33:48,205
- What do you think about that?
- Yes, I think so too.

2152
01:33:48,205 --> 01:33:49,457
- [Kip] He says it's his?

2153
01:34:03,971 --> 01:34:05,556
Came, say yay.

2154
01:34:05,556 --> 01:34:07,475
- Yay.

2155
01:34:07,475 --> 01:34:10,519
Yay.

2156
01:34:10,519 --> 01:34:11,729
Yay.

2157
01:34:11,729 --> 01:34:12,855
- [Interviewer] Faith
you that it is possible

2158
01:34:12,855 --> 01:34:15,399
to be spiritual and eat animals?

2159
01:34:15,399 --> 01:34:17,610
- No, that's not possible at all.

2160
01:34:17,610 --> 01:34:19,278
It's just not possible.

2161
01:34:20,571 --> 01:34:24,200
Because being spiritual
means simply knowing

2162
01:34:24,200 --> 01:34:26,661
that killing this,
the destruction of that

2163
01:34:26,661 --> 01:34:29,789
with the transition from completion

2164
01:34:29,789 --> 01:34:31,123
has to do with imperfection.

2165
01:34:31,123 --> 01:34:33,459
How can a spiritual person do that?

2166
01:34:33,459 --> 01:34:34,960
Spirituality is about

2167
01:34:34,960 --> 01:34:36,962
of imperfection
to reach completion.

2168
01:34:36,962 --> 01:34:39,548
- You know, I think one
A more appropriate question would be:

2169
01:34:39,548 --> 01:34:43,469
What does it mean, a human being
to be and eat meat?

2170
01:34:43,469 --> 01:34:45,096
This is perhaps a more important question.

2171
01:34:45,096 --> 01:34:46,138
- Sometimes people think

2172
01:34:46,138 --> 01:34:47,932
that we are not without reason
human beings are called,

2173
01:34:47,932 --> 01:34:48,766
but the only reason is

2174
01:34:48,766 --> 01:34:50,309
that we called ourselves that,

2175
01:34:50,309 --> 01:34:52,061
we are called human beings,

2176
01:34:52,061 --> 01:34:56,399
which has the same root as
the word humanistic beings.

2177
01:34:56,399 --> 01:34:58,192
The kind ones, in a way

2178
01:34:58,192 --> 01:35:00,611
we have ourselves as
described as desirable.

2179
01:35:00,611 --> 01:35:04,865
Do we want our most human ability,

2180
01:35:04,865 --> 01:35:07,993
namely the ability to
Empathy, use it to its full potential?

2181
01:35:07,993 --> 01:35:09,161
There are studies that show

2182
01:35:09,161 --> 01:35:12,123
that with vegans, for example
the parts of the brain,

2183
01:35:12,123 --> 01:35:15,042
those in their emotional life
involved, really fire.

2184
01:35:15,042 --> 01:35:16,627
For me as a biologist this shows

2185
01:35:16,627 --> 01:35:18,629
that there really is one
there is a deep connection,

2186
01:35:18,629 --> 01:35:20,381
a felt connection.

2187
01:35:20,381 --> 01:35:22,716
- [Kip] Neuroscientist,
for 12 years

2188
01:35:22,716 --> 01:35:24,677
after the happiest
people of the world were looking

2189
01:35:24,677 --> 01:35:27,138
found out that the
Buddhist monk Matthieu Ricard,

2190
01:35:27,138 --> 01:35:29,390
who is vegan, his
increases happiness,

2191
01:35:29,390 --> 01:35:32,768
when he talks about compassion
meditated for all living beings,

2192
01:35:32,768 --> 01:35:35,813
and that his brain is the
fires the highest gamma waves,

2193
01:35:35,813 --> 01:35:37,565
which ever in the
history were measured

2194
01:35:37,565 --> 01:35:38,399
and with awareness,

2195
01:35:38,399 --> 01:35:40,484
Learning and memory
are connected.

2196
01:35:40,484 --> 01:35:43,863
- That's why the
great thinkers of history

2197
01:35:43,863 --> 01:35:45,698
were ultimately vegetarians.

2198
01:35:45,698 --> 01:35:48,159
Just google who they are
are famous vegetarians,

2199
01:35:48,159 --> 01:35:52,204
and you find Einstein,
Tesla, Leonardo da Vinci

2200
01:35:52,204 --> 01:35:53,539
and so on and so forth.

2201
01:35:55,541 --> 01:35:57,918
As Leonardo da Vinci
started making money,

2202
01:35:57,918 --> 01:35:59,545
he went to the market

2203
01:35:59,545 --> 01:36:01,839
and bought up all the chickens at the market,

2204
01:36:01,839 --> 01:36:03,632
and then take them into the forests

2205
01:36:03,632 --> 01:36:04,800
and then release them all.

2206
01:36:06,343 --> 01:36:08,304
- [Kip] So things came full circle.

2207
01:36:08,304 --> 01:36:09,597
The Holy Land

2208
01:36:09,597 --> 01:36:11,557
now has one of the highest
Per capita numbers of vegans

2209
01:36:11,557 --> 01:36:14,477
in the world and the first
completely vegan hospital.

2210
01:36:14,477 --> 01:36:17,229
And even chief rabbi
Zarki put down his knife

2211
01:36:17,229 --> 01:36:18,898
and became vegan.

2212
01:36:18,898 --> 01:36:20,524
- I SAID: "MY HAND WILL NOT GO ANYWHERE

2213
01:36:20,524 --> 01:36:21,984
SERVING THE SLAUGHTER."

2214
01:36:21,984 --> 01:36:23,944
AND I QUIT THE PROFESSIONAL.

2215
01:36:23,944 --> 01:36:26,155
- And there is even
a whole vegan village

2216
01:36:26,155 --> 01:36:28,407
by African Hebrew Israelites.

2217
01:36:28,407 --> 01:36:30,451
- Vegan means “Tivoni” in Hebrew.

2218
01:36:30,451 --> 01:36:32,077
The root of the word comes from "Teva",

2219
01:36:32,077 --> 01:36:33,454
what nature means.

2220
01:36:33,454 --> 01:36:37,291
That means dealing with the
Earth, the trees, the flowers

2221
01:36:37,291 --> 01:36:38,334
and to connect all animals,

2222
01:36:38,334 --> 01:36:40,711
and everyone praises God
in his own way.

2223
01:36:40,711 --> 01:36:44,381
This is really a vision
the new Garden of Eden.

2224
01:36:44,381 --> 01:36:46,342
- We are currently experiencing this all over the world

2225
01:36:46,342 --> 01:36:49,053
an amazing change, because land,

2226
01:36:49,053 --> 01:36:51,055
that used to be for the
animal husbandry was used,

2227
01:36:51,055 --> 01:36:53,015
becomes wild again.

2228
01:36:53,015 --> 01:36:54,141
And I have the feeling
that we are at the point

2229
01:36:54,141 --> 01:36:56,977
we have it in our own hands.

2230
01:36:56,977 --> 01:36:59,647
We just have to stick to it
remember who we are.

2231
01:36:59,647 --> 01:37:02,399
- [Kip] Even Texas ones
Ranchers like Renee King Sonnen

2232
01:37:02,399 --> 01:37:05,277
transform their cattle ranches
in protected areas.

2233
01:37:05,277 --> 01:37:06,529
- Well, you know, Kam,

2234
01:37:06,529 --> 01:37:08,614
You and I have one
very similar background.

2235
01:37:08,614 --> 01:37:11,116
I grew up Christian
and wrote gospel music.

2236
01:37:11,116 --> 01:37:13,035
I'm so grateful that I learned

2237
01:37:13,035 --> 01:37:14,328
what “stewardship” means,

2238
01:37:14,328 --> 01:37:16,205
what “Dominion” really means.

2239
01:37:16,205 --> 01:37:19,291
Because there is nothing in
my brain telling me

2240
01:37:19,291 --> 01:37:20,835
that it is a spiritual
way there is,

2241
01:37:20,835 --> 01:37:22,336
to kill an animal.

2242
01:37:22,336 --> 01:37:25,631
There is simply no right one
Way to do the wrong thing.

2243
01:37:26,674 --> 01:37:28,926
- Access to the deepest part

2244
01:37:28,926 --> 01:37:32,221
to get from yourself,
that through a multitude

2245
01:37:32,221 --> 01:37:34,181
of lessons about that
not caring was suppressed,

2246
01:37:34,181 --> 01:37:37,518
if we remove all these boulders,

2247
01:37:37,518 --> 01:37:40,521
when we hit the boulder
roll away, then what's inside you?

2248
01:37:40,521 --> 01:37:42,064
Well, that's the gift.

2249
01:37:42,064 --> 01:37:44,275
- [Kip] From the environment to
to spiritual health

2250
01:37:44,275 --> 01:37:46,068
I feel more and more

2251
01:37:46,068 --> 01:37:48,320
that the most important question
that I can provide

2252
01:37:48,320 --> 01:37:51,699
that is how we honor animals spiritually

2253
01:37:51,699 --> 01:37:53,117
and protect as equals

2254
01:37:53,117 --> 01:37:55,327
and her with the same
be able to treat with respect,

2255
01:37:55,327 --> 01:37:57,162
with which we treat each other.

2256
01:37:57,162 --> 01:37:58,581
- I think that the waiver
on eating animals

2257
01:37:58,581 --> 01:38:03,419
a first step on that
path to humanity.

2258
01:38:03,419 --> 01:38:05,462
- I'm thinking about the way
to where I am now,

2259
01:38:05,462 --> 01:38:06,881
as someone who eats a plant-based diet,

2260
01:38:06,881 --> 01:38:08,757
how far it is from that
is where I once was.

2261
01:38:08,757 --> 01:38:10,843
For the first time everything makes sense

2262
01:38:10,843 --> 01:38:13,012
in relation to mine
Mission and my purpose.

2263
01:38:13,012 --> 01:38:14,847
My spirit feels elevated.

2264
01:38:14,847 --> 01:38:17,600
- VEGANISM IS NOT A PHILOSOPHY.

2265
01:38:17,600 --> 01:38:19,018
IT IS NOT A TEACHING.

2266
01:38:19,018 --> 01:38:20,686
IT IS A STATE OF CONSCIOUSNESS.

2267
01:38:20,686 --> 01:38:23,814
YOUR BODY AND YOUR MIND
BEGIN TO RISE,

2268
01:38:23,814 --> 01:38:25,524
SPIRITUAL AND ENERGETIC.

2269
01:38:25,524 --> 01:38:28,777
WITH EXISTENCE, LIFE
AND THE UNIVERSE, WITH EVERYTHING.

2270
01:38:28,777 --> 01:38:31,030
- When you look someone in the eye,

2271
01:38:31,030 --> 01:38:33,115
then you see his personality,

2272
01:38:33,115 --> 01:38:35,200
his soul.

2273
01:38:35,200 --> 01:38:37,286
- And if you're really awake,

2274
01:38:37,286 --> 01:38:41,373
then you will only see yours
own deep innocence,

2275
01:38:41,373 --> 01:38:43,626
that may be hidden from you.

2276
01:38:43,626 --> 01:38:46,003
- I see a being that
would like to live just as much

2277
01:38:46,003 --> 01:38:48,714
like me and has the right to do so.

2278
01:38:48,714 --> 01:38:51,300
- My life is that of an advocate

2279
01:38:51,300 --> 01:38:55,346
for the most vulnerable
living beings on earth.

2280
01:38:55,346 --> 01:38:58,182
- [Maneka] The foundation of all
Religion is very simple:

2281
01:38:58,182 --> 01:38:59,308
Always be kind.

2282
01:39:01,101 --> 01:39:04,563
- Had on this trip
I sometimes feel

2283
01:39:04,563 --> 01:39:06,398
to move away from my faith.

2284
01:39:06,398 --> 01:39:09,652
But now I know that
me all the time

2285
01:39:09,652 --> 01:39:12,529
have come close to what
it really means

2286
01:39:12,529 --> 01:39:13,989
to be a follower of Christ.

2287
01:39:13,989 --> 01:39:16,784
And the one thing that all religions

2288
01:39:16,784 --> 01:39:19,203
and spiritual traditions
united at the root,

2289
01:39:19,203 --> 01:39:21,330
is compassion for all beings.

2290
01:39:21,330 --> 01:39:24,375
- You see, animals are
not just beings.

2291
01:39:24,375 --> 01:39:27,711
They have an anima, a life.

2292
01:39:27,711 --> 01:39:31,215
They do something fundamental
spiritually important for us

2293
01:39:31,215 --> 01:39:33,592
and that is, us from us
to get yourself out,

2294
01:39:33,592 --> 01:39:35,010
us a feeling of wonder

2295
01:39:35,010 --> 01:39:38,013
and the awe of
to give to the universe,

2296
01:39:38,013 --> 01:39:40,432
to about the natural world
to look out, to the spirit,

2297
01:39:40,432 --> 01:39:43,811
who moves within her, with
that you can connect to,

2298
01:39:43,811 --> 01:39:46,855
with whom you can have a relationship,

2299
01:39:46,855 --> 01:39:50,234
who actually has grace
God can convey.

2300
01:39:50,234 --> 01:39:52,444
Is this what you are using?
mean spirituality?

2301
01:39:53,320 --> 01:39:54,863
- We're actually talking
from a moment,

2302
01:39:54,863 --> 01:39:59,868
in which everyone realizes that
the same spark of divinity

2303
01:39:59,868 --> 01:40:01,912
is in all beings,
whether they are winged

2304
01:40:01,912 --> 01:40:04,415
or four-legged or whether
they swim in the sea.

2305
01:40:04,415 --> 01:40:08,419
- And one after the other
others we become these

2306
01:40:08,419 --> 01:40:12,047
understanding, compassionate creatures

2307
01:40:12,047 --> 01:40:16,719
and make a gigantic one
Tick game around the world.

2308
01:40:17,761 --> 01:40:20,305
I'm talking about 10,

2309
01:40:20,305 --> 01:40:23,892
20 million prophets,

2310
01:40:23,892 --> 01:40:28,605
Masters on this earth
are all so Christ-like

2311
01:40:28,605 --> 01:40:32,693
like Jesus, like the Buddha,
like the prophet Mohammed,

2312
01:40:32,693 --> 01:40:36,280
like any of the great masters,
who have ever lived.

2313
01:40:36,280 --> 01:40:39,366
This is not the age
a single great leader.

2314
01:40:39,366 --> 01:40:42,870
This is the age
of great leadership.

2315
01:40:42,870 --> 01:40:47,332
And what I basically tell everyone
who sees this must say,

2316
01:40:47,332 --> 01:40:49,877
is: "Tick, it's your turn."

2317
01:40:50,836 --> 01:40:52,880
♪ One, two, three, four ♪

2318
01:40:52,880 --> 01:40:55,007
IN MEMORY OF DIANNE GANDEE SORBI: 2020

2319
01:40:55,007 --> 01:40:58,343
IN MEMORY OF LEWIS RAY
ANDERSEN: 1941 - 2023

2320
01:40:58,343 --> 01:41:02,556
IN MEMORIAL OF NINJA
RAYMES ANDERSEN: 2006-2023

2321
01:41:02,556 --> 01:41:03,766
DEDICATED TO KAM'S LITTLE BROTHER, DAYTON

2322
01:41:03,766 --> 01:41:04,975
EVEN THOUGH YOU ARE NO LONGER WITH US,

2323
01:41:04,975 --> 01:41:06,143
ARE YOU DEEP INTO THE PATTERN
THIS MOVIE INCLUDED

2324
01:41:06,143 --> 01:41:07,352
AND YOU WILL ALWAYS BE A PART OF IT.

2325
01:41:07,352 --> 01:41:08,395
REST NOW WITH THE SAINTS AND THE ANIMALS.

2326
01:41:08,395 --> 01:41:09,772
MY BROTHER, MY FRIEND,
CHAMPION OF ANIMALS, DAYTON.

2327
01:41:09,772 --> 01:41:11,398
FILMED BY, PRODUCED
BY, DIRECTED AND EDITED:

2328
01:41:11,398 --> 01:41:13,567
KIP ANDERSEN AND KAMERON WATERS

2329
01:41:13,567 --> 01:41:15,360
- Thank you
Watched "Christspiracy".

2330
01:41:15,360 --> 01:41:17,279
and put up with us.

2331
01:41:17,279 --> 01:41:20,282
Maybe that's what you're feeling right now
contradictory feelings,

2332
01:41:20,282 --> 01:41:23,160
maybe some confusion,
sadness, anger,

2333
01:41:23,160 --> 01:41:25,746
a feeling of betrayal
or injustice,

2334
01:41:25,746 --> 01:41:28,832
or maybe you feel
feel stimulated and inspired,

2335
01:41:28,832 --> 01:41:32,252
to do something to change something,

2336
01:41:32,252 --> 01:41:34,379
like all of these
People whose names are here

2337
01:41:34,379 --> 01:41:36,924
stand on the screen,
did it bravely.

2338
01:41:36,924 --> 01:41:38,509
- While watching this movie,

2339
01:41:38,509 --> 01:41:41,220
Five million animals were slaughtered.

2340
01:41:41,220 --> 01:41:42,930
Every single one of
them was an individual

2341
01:41:42,930 --> 01:41:45,307
with a soul that wanted to live.

2342
01:41:45,307 --> 01:41:47,893
The extent of the killing is unimaginable,

2343
01:41:47,893 --> 01:41:49,311
as well as the duration

2344
01:41:49,311 --> 01:41:53,148
this historical one
cover-up is unimaginable,

2345
01:41:53,148 --> 01:41:55,025
but the truth was released.

2346
01:41:55,025 --> 01:41:57,694
And now you're on
the turn, your vote

2347
01:41:57,694 --> 01:41:58,695
for those to raise

2348
01:41:58,695 --> 01:42:00,322
whose voices we cannot hear,

2349
01:42:00,322 --> 01:42:03,033
and this truth in
to take it out into the world.

2350
01:42:03,033 --> 01:42:06,453
- you ask yourself
maybe: What can I do?

2351
01:42:06,453 --> 01:42:08,705
And the top priority is,

2352
01:42:08,705 --> 01:42:10,541
to ensure that
this film is seen.

2353
01:42:10,541 --> 01:42:13,293
It is important that the
people reality

2354
01:42:13,293 --> 01:42:15,504
get to know and experience animal husbandry,

2355
01:42:15,504 --> 01:42:17,714
how long this spiritual
and ethical call

2356
01:42:17,714 --> 01:42:22,719
to a merciful treatment
was covered up with animals.

2357
01:42:22,928 --> 01:42:25,556
- Our first target is
it that "Christspiracy"

2358
01:42:25,556 --> 01:42:29,017
three million views
receives, one for each animal,

2359
01:42:29,017 --> 01:42:32,020
that every single hour for
food is killed.

2360
01:42:32,020 --> 01:42:34,439
You are the reason why we
made "Christspiracy",

2361
01:42:34,439 --> 01:42:36,608
and they are the reason why
we need your help,

2362
01:42:36,608 --> 01:42:38,527
so that this film can be seen.

2363
01:42:38,527 --> 01:42:39,486
That's why we have these

2364
01:42:39,486 --> 01:42:40,863
Pay-it-forward platform set up.

2365
01:42:40,863 --> 01:42:44,616
- Thanks to you "Christspiracy"
accessible to everyone,

2366
01:42:44,616 --> 01:42:45,868
no matter where he lives

2367
01:42:45,868 --> 01:42:48,036
or what his financial status is.

2368
01:42:48,036 --> 01:42:50,414
And the power of this
film lies in those

2369
01:42:50,414 --> 01:42:53,208
who are able to
the chain of compassion

2370
01:42:53,208 --> 01:42:56,920
to keep going by
pay for someone else.

2371
01:42:56,920 --> 01:42:58,714
- And when you do for others,

2372
01:42:58,714 --> 01:43:01,008
what someone has already done for you,

2373
01:43:01,008 --> 01:43:02,259
and pay for them in advance,

2374
01:43:02,259 --> 01:43:05,387
turn on some too
fantastic perks free:

2375
01:43:05,387 --> 01:43:07,514
the full HD version of the film,

2376
01:43:07,514 --> 01:43:09,766
extended interviews, deleted scenes,

2377
01:43:09,766 --> 01:43:11,977
stories behind the scenes,

2378
01:43:11,977 --> 01:43:14,229
Access to our online community,

2379
01:43:14,229 --> 01:43:16,481
a 30 day one
spiritual meal planner,

2380
01:43:16,481 --> 01:43:19,651
a seven day one
challenge and much more.

2381
01:43:19,651 --> 01:43:21,528
- It's really worth it
for so many reasons,

2382
01:43:21,528 --> 01:43:23,405
for others in advance
pay if you can.

2383
01:43:23,405 --> 01:43:24,406
But even if you can't,

2384
01:43:24,406 --> 01:43:26,575
you can make an important contribution

2385
01:43:26,575 --> 01:43:28,160
contribute to this compassionate movement,

2386
01:43:28,160 --> 01:43:30,871
by selecting "Christspiracy"
recommend to everyone,

2387
01:43:30,871 --> 01:43:31,914
who you know.

2388
01:43:31,914 --> 01:43:33,373
Maybe you have
already someone in mind,

2389
01:43:33,373 --> 01:43:34,207
that you know about

2390
01:43:34,207 --> 01:43:35,626
that he absolutely has to see this film.

2391
01:43:35,626 --> 01:43:38,086
So send it to him
friends, to family,

2392
01:43:38,086 --> 01:43:39,880
to your neighbors and even to strangers,

2393
01:43:39,880 --> 01:43:41,548
that you meet on the street.

2394
01:43:41,548 --> 01:43:44,343
Attention is everything.

2395
01:43:44,343 --> 01:43:46,929
- Compassion and the golden one
The rule is the roots

2396
01:43:46,929 --> 01:43:49,681
of all religions and
spiritual traditions.

2397
01:43:49,681 --> 01:43:53,435
This sensitive, humane one
Teaching unites all traditions.

2398
01:43:53,435 --> 01:43:55,938
It enables us to
To build bridges between us.

2399
01:43:55,938 --> 01:43:57,105
It enables each of us to

2400
01:43:57,105 --> 01:43:59,608
each other
connect and together

2401
01:43:59,608 --> 01:44:01,944
to become what
we really should be.

2402
01:44:01,944 --> 01:44:04,738
- "Christspiracy" just scratches
on the surface of it,

2403
01:44:04,738 --> 01:44:07,866
what certain scientists,
Theologians, archaeologists

2404
01:44:07,866 --> 01:44:11,828
and others about the true ones
roots of religion

2405
01:44:11,828 --> 01:44:14,373
and our cultural
traditions figured out.

2406
01:44:14,373 --> 01:44:18,293
Your work in this film
will because of your action

2407
01:44:18,293 --> 01:44:20,545
a domino effect of discussions,

2408
01:44:20,545 --> 01:44:23,382
Debates and compassion
for all beings.

2409
01:44:23,382 --> 01:44:25,050
- And if you for
pay others in advance,

2410
01:44:25,050 --> 01:44:28,053
100% of all proceeds go to
Charities

2411
01:44:28,053 --> 01:44:31,390
for animals, activism
and reforestation projects.

2412
01:44:31,390 --> 01:44:34,810
The very real and beautiful
Change in our world

2413
01:44:34,810 --> 01:44:36,395
is already underway -

2414
01:44:36,395 --> 01:44:38,105
Thanks to people like you,

2415
01:44:38,105 --> 01:44:40,524
saw the “Christspiracy”.
and made sure

2416
01:44:40,524 --> 01:44:42,567
so that others can also see the film.

2417
01:44:42,567 --> 01:44:44,319
- After seven years

2418
01:44:44,319 --> 01:44:45,529
worked on this film,

2419
01:44:45,529 --> 01:44:48,448
We now pass the baton to you.

2420
01:44:48,448 --> 01:44:51,868
“Christspiracy” is more than that
a film, it is a movement.

2421
01:44:51,868 --> 01:44:54,079
So join in,
play your role,

2422
01:44:54,079 --> 01:44:55,998
pay for someone in
Advance and be part

2423
01:44:55,998 --> 01:45:00,002
this powerful worldwide
Change for the good.

2424
01:45:00,002 --> 01:45:01,670
Tick, it's your turn.
- Tick, it's your turn.

